Nov 02, 2023 Bluffton Strategic Planning Workshop

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A CALL THIS STRATEGIC PLAN WORKSHOP TO ORDER. WE ARE WAITING ON COUNCILMAN HAMILTON BUT BE ALONG ON HIS WAY. HE PROBABLY DOESN'T THINK WE HAVE HOT TEA FOR HIM BUT HE'S GOING TO BE SURPRISED EVEN I SAW I BROUGHT MY POT JUST IN CASE BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO GET UPSET. DO YOU WANT I'LL MOVE ON.

BUT STEPHEN THANK YOU. THIS IS YOUR SECOND STRATEGIC PLAN, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. I THINK WHAT WOULD BE GOOD IS LET'S GO AROUND THE ROOM.

WE HAVE A GREAT CROWD AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU, CHRISTY. APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU BEING HERE. BUT LET'S GO AROUND THE TABLE AND THEN WE'LL GET INTRODUCTIONS FROM I'LL SAVE THEM FOR LAST WE GOT UP THERE THEMSELVES AFTER I WAS KIND OF WAITING THAT SOFTWARE GOT IN SO I'LL STOP AND THEN YOU JUMP IN AND THEN I'LL COME AND YOU'RE ON ROLL. OKAY, SO I'LL LEAVE Y'ALL FOR LAST.

WE'LL START OVER HERE. COUNCILWOMAN YES? I'M COUNCILWOMAN BRIDGETTE FRAZIER LARRY TAYLOR TOWN BLUFFTON POLICE ASSAULT THE MAYOR AND WE'RE TOWN OF BLUFFTON KRISTIN LANE BRYANT CENTER MADELINE MCDOUGAL FINANCE SERVICES HUMAN RESOURCES ATTORNEY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM MANAGER OF OUR WATERSHED MANAGEMENT JOE BABCOCK COURSE CHIEF OF POLICE MARCIA CLARK TERRY FINGERED COUNTY ATTORNEY CHRIS FORESTER ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER STEPHENS DAYS TOWN MANAGER HEATHER COLE AND ASSISTANT MANAGER AND NOW WHAT DO Y'ALL DO DO WE'RE ACTUALLY ON SLIDE OKAY SO PAID FOR A SLIDE FROM THERE YOU GO TALK IN YOUR MICROPHONES BECAUSE I KNOW SITTING HERE IS SO LOCO AND OTHER EVENTS IT IS HARD AND I KNOW WE ARE TAPING IT IS IT BROADCAST LIVE SO IT'S LIVE SO WELCOME ALL OF YOU WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE ALL OF YOU. LET'S GO TO THE AUDIENCE WE WOULD HAD NORMALLY HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE UP HERE AS POSSIBLE BUT PEOPLE COME AND GO BECAUSE THIS IS A DAY EVERYONE HAS A JOB.

EVERYONE WORKS. SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR COMING.

YOU'RE VERY IMPORTANT THOUGH SO DON'T FEEL BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET CALLED DOWN BECAUSE YOU KNOW ME I'M GOING TO CHECK OUR CHAIRS AND OUR MAYORS AND GET INPUT. SO WHAT YOU SAY IS REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS DAY.

SO MAYOR, YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND UP BUT MY NAME HOWARD WILLIAMS AND AND THE MAYOR OF PAS DE VILLE MR. ELLIOTT AND MY FAMILY AND I REPRESENT THE SOUTH CAROLINA NURSERY DETENTION INITIATIVE FOR YOUR AND I ALSO SAY WHO YOU REPRESENT WHEN YOU'RE ON THE HBC THANK YOU AND AND FINALLY HERE KIND OF COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX AND VICE PRESIDENT SON CITY . GOOD MORNING I'M PUTTING I DIDN'T THINK IT MANY HAVE LINED UP DOER OF ALL THINGS OKAY PULL IT TOGETHER OF ALL PULL OUR TOGETHER OF ALL THINGS AND AS PEOPLE COME IN IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND I MIGHT STOP BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY. THIS THIS SETS OUR NEXT YEAR SO PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE CARE ABOUT THIS TOWN ENOUGH TO SHOW UP. WE'RE GOING TO CARE ENOUGH ABOUT YOU TO GET INPUT SO YOU. OKAY, STEPHEN MOORE MOVE THIS MIKE.

BUT I WILL TALK REAL QUICK BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY MAKING A PRESENTATION UNTIL ABOUT LUNCHTIME TODAY SO I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DO STRATEGIC PLANNING AND AND MIKE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS AS THEY TALK IS IT REALLY GIVES US A TOWN AS A WHOLE A GUIDE OVER THE FUTURE WHERE WE'RE GOING PROJECTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT IT ALSO HELPS OUR BUDGET PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN THAT AS WE START PUTTING OUR BUDGET TOGETHER WE PUT OUR FUNDING IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE IT BECOMES A REALITY. I'LL LET BILL AND MIKE TALK MORE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE BETTER STORIES THAN I DO. BUT THE WAY WE DO PLANNING HERE IS WE DO A BIG SESSION LIKE THIS EVERY TWO YEARS AND WE DO A TWO YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. SO WHAT WE DO TODAY WILL SET OUR DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS IN THE INTERIM BETWEEN THESE BIG SESSIONS WHEN WE

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SO THE WAY WE DO THIS AS WE GO THROUGH THE DAY WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION AT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A VERNA IS HERE SHE'S GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION THROUGH KIND OF A WORKING LUNCH THAT WE HAVE AND THEN THIS AFTERNOON WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF TIME WITH THAT YEAH YEAH WE'RE GONNA HAVE BRAD SONG SORRY BRAD CHARLES SHIPA WITH THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE AND I KNOW WE'VE INVITED OUR UM HBC BOARD TO BE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THE TOWN AND LOOKING AT IT GOING FORWARD. SO THAT WILL BE A VERY IMPORTANT THING AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP WITH TRYING TO GET TO WHERE OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE MOVING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT ATTENDED THAT IS ATTENDING THAT'S HERE TO BE A PART OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO US NOT JUST AS STAFF, AS COUNCIL AND AS A TOWN AS A WHOLE BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY THEY SAY WELL WHAT IS THE TOWN DOING? THIS IS HOW WE GET THINGS DONE. SO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS HOW WE TAKE THINGS THAT ARE A VISION AND MAKE THEM A REALITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY SO IT'S IMPORTANT AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND PARTICIPATING. LIKE I SAID FOR THIS SESSION WE BRING IN A CONSULTANT HELP GUIDE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND EVERYTHING ARE GOOD MOVING FORWARD. SO BILL AND MIKE, IF Y'ALL WANT TO GET UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND KICK US OFF. WE'LL BE GOOD TO GO.

I WANT TO MAKE THIS THIS OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER HAMILTON, GOOD TO SEE YOU AND FRED HAMILTON, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM KNOWS THEM. THANK YOU.

AND JUST JUST YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE LISTENING I GUESS AND WANT TO COME IN WE DON'T HAVE SET TIMES LUNCH IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE 1130 TO 1230 I WOULD SAY THAT BE A DISCUSSION SO AT THE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISCUSSION I'M HOPEFUL MAYBE WE CAN SQUEEZE IN THE GROUP IF THE OG COMMISSION IS HERE WE CAN ALWAYS ROTATE STAFF OUT IF WE NEED TO BECAUSE I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO NEED TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AND THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY 1230 TO 1 START I WOULD GUESS. OKAY I'M JUST LETTING WHOLE WORLD WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S WATCHING WE GOT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW.

THANK YOU AGAIN MAYOR. I THINK MAYOR YOU SAID VAST ADMIRER OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON I THINK IS THE THE TERM THAT YOU USED AM I SHARED WITH WITH DAN BEFORE WE GOT STARTED MIKE AND I USE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AS AN EXAMPLE FOR A NUMBER OF OUR CLIENTS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT HAVE EMBRACED THE PLANNING PROCESS BOTH AS A COUNCIL AS A STAFF IT IS REALLY A GREAT TESTAMENT TO REALLY KIND OF COMMITTING TO TO WHAT THE WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS.

SO WE HAVE WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A NUMBER OF TIMES. I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER THIS WAS OUR FOURTH OR FIFTH TIME HERE BUT. WE FIGURED WE PROBABLY NEEDED TO UPDATE OUR SIDE PRESENTATION ,SHORTENED IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT YOU TELLING US WHAT SLIDES SAID BUT KNOWING THAT THIS IS BROADCAST AND FOR SOME THAT DON'T KNOW WE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BRIDGE GROUP WHICH IS MIKE COMPANY WE EACH RUN OUR OWN OUR OWN FLAG BUT WE'RE HERE UNDER THE BRIDGE GROUP BUT WE ARE REALLY AN AFFILIATE AND PARTNER WITH A MUCH LARGER CONSULTING GROUP CALLED THE MERCER GROUPING ASSOCIATES.

JIM MERCER WHO REALLY WAS KIND OF ONE OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF BOTH LOCAL GOVERNMENT STRATEGIC PLANNING AND CONSULTANTS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

WE WE WORKED WITH JIM FROM 2011 UNTIL HIS PASSING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND BECAUSE OF THAT MERCER GROUP ASSOCIATE SORTS WAS BORN BUT WE WE TRAVELED THE COUNTRY MIKE AND I DO A LOT OF WORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS PARTICULARLY PARTICULARLY ON STRATEGIC BUT WE'VE GOT A FEW OTHER TRICKS UNDER OUR SLEEVE AS WE LIKE TO SAY I CAN LET YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND THEN I GET TO YOU. I APPRECIATE MIKE FLETCHER THRILLED TO BE HERE AGAIN AND AS BILL SAID, WE WILL USE YOUR GUYS AS AN EXAMPLE NOT ONLY

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SO YOU GUYS ARE GREAT MY BACKGROUND PRIMARILY CITY MANAGEMENT FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS I ALSO AM I'VE BEEN A DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR FINANCED AND H.R BUT PRIMARILY ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THE OF THE OF THE EQUITY DOES THIS THING AUTOMATICALLY TURN ITSELF OFF JUST WHENEVER YOU TALK IT OH PICKS YOU UP THEN OKAY I'M USED TO HAVING TO PUSH A BUTTON ANYWAY SO I'M BILL THE ELECTED OF THE TWO GROUP OF THIS LITTLE DUO BUT I ALSO HAVE SPENT 40 YEARS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. I RETIRED IN 2009 AND THEN WAS ELECTED IN 2011 AND THAT JUST CONTINUED MY MY MY TIME FORWARD SPENT TIME AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD ETC. WE WE REALLY LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION MAKING THE MOST OF WHAT WE CAN ANY COMMUNITY AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MIKE I REALLY BRING BRING TO THE TABLE. SO WHEN WE DECIDED START CONSULTING WE REALLY LOOKED AT STRATEGIC PLANNING AS AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE HAD SAT THROUGH A NUMBER OF PLANNING EFFORTS AS YOU KNOW AS A MANAGER AS AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND SAID THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY THESE THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT REALLY DELIVERING AND I THINK WE WE REALIZED THROUGH THE CRASH OF 2009 THAT THE WAY THAT WE LOOKED AT THE FUTURE NEEDED TO KIND CHANGE. SO WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS AND WE FOUND OUT LAST NIGHT FROM CHRIS THAT WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN IT'S CALLED DOING THINGS IT'S ACTUALLY A HERB FROM SOUTHWEST AIRLINES TAKE TAKEAWAY WHICH WE DID NOT REALIZE WHEN WE RIPPED THIS SLIDE OFF THAT THAT LITTLE MONIKER THERE BUT WE REALLY REALIZED IN 2009 THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT REALLY CHANGED WE HAD WE HAD GONE THROUGH WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A ONCE IN A LIFETIME EVENT FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE WE HAD THE FINANCIAL COLLAPSE IN 1929 AND WE NOW YOU KNOW, THE WE WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AGAIN. WELL, IT HAPPENED IN 2009 AND THAT TOOK A LONG TIME TO RECOVER. LOCAL GOVERNMENT REALLY HAD TO KIND OF CHANGE THE WAY IT WAS LOOKING AT THINGS AND WE FOUND THAT LOOKING FORWARD FAR INTO THE FUTURE WAS NOT REALISTIC. THE WORLD WAS CHANGING RAPIDLY THAT LOOKING FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WAS ALMOST A IT WAS A BLURRED VISION WE REALLY COULDN'T COULDN'T LOOK THAT FAR. AND THEN I THINK REALIZED THAT WHEN WE FINALLY CAME OF THAT RECESSION MID 2000 TEEN SO 2015 2016 EVERYBODY FELT PRETTY PRETTY COMFORTABLE THAT THINGS WERE STARTING TO TURN. WE THOUGHT WE HAD THE WORLD FIGURED OUT 2020 DISRUPTED AGAIN IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAY SO THAT RICHELLE HELD THE DECK.

IT DIDN'T HAVE THE EFFECT THAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY IT WAS THE DELAYED EFFECT. SO HERE WE ARE IN 23 IN AN ECONOMY THAT WE DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE PREDICTED IN 2021. SO OUR OUR CRYSTAL BALL ALTHOUGH IT HAS SOME HELPED IN THE LOTTERY PLAYING BUT OUR CRYSTAL BALL REALLY HAS HAS MOVED US MOVED US KIND OF FORWARD. SO WE LOOKED AT CHANGING CHANGING UP THE MODEL AND GETTING IT TO STRATEGIC FOCUS WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A MINUTE.

BUT REALLY THE THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE LIKE TO TO POINT OUT IS THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS REALLY IMPORTANT FROM A WE TO MAINTAIN BALANCE. THE OLD WAY OF STRATEGIC PLANNING WAS WE'D START THE CONVERSATION WITH IF MONEY WERE NO OBJECT WHAT WOULD WE DO AND WE DON'T LIVE A IN ANY FRAME OF TIME THAT MONEY IS NOT AN OBJECT SO LET'S NOT PRETEND THAT WE THAT WE CAN PAVE THE STREET WITH GOLD AND WE CAN DO ALL THIS STUFF LET'S BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND AND I LOOK TO THE COUNCIL AND SAY HAVE TO AS ELECTED OFFICIALS WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN THIS BALANCE BETWEEN HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE AND HOW MUCH TIME AND CAPACITY THAT THE STAFF HAS AND THE STAFF HAS TO ALWAYS TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT BALANCE AS WELL. SO WHEN YOU SEE THIS GIGANTIC PROJECT LIST LATER TODAY WE HAD THAT VERY DISCUSSION YESTERDAY WITH THE STAFF. WE MET WITH THEM TO TALK ABOUT

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YOU WANT RIGHT NOW INSTANTLY AND WHEN YOU SAY WE HAVE TO DO THIS WHATEVER THAT WAS THE STAFF IS GOING TO JUMP AND THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL WORK THAT THEY AREN'T NECESSARILY READY TO DO IT MAY BE DIFFICULT FOR US AS ELECTEDS BECAUSE WE ARE UNDER CONSTANT PRESSURE TO DELIVER FOR OUR RESIDENTS SO WE TRY TO MAINTAIN THIS BALANCE.

I GET AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS MAINTAIN BALANCE. THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF IS WE ARE MULTIPLE VOICES. SO THIS IS A GREAT REPRESENTATION OF WE WANT DESSERT BUT EVERYBODY WANTS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I HAVE SPENT THE LAST I THINK IT'S FIVE YEARS IN PUBLIC TRANSIT NOW AND AT HOME AND I LIKE TO USE THE BUS ANALOGY THE MANAGER IS THE IS THE BUS DRIVER AND THE COUNCIL PROVIDES DIRECTION THE THAT WE OFTEN RUN INTO IN COMMUNITIES IS EACH ONE OF YOU AS UNELECTED ARE YELLING DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS TO THE BUS DRIVER SOME ARE YELLING FASTER SOME ARE YELLING YELLING SOME ARE YELLING RIGHT, SOME ARE YELLING LEFT AND SOME ARE JUST ALONG FOR THE RIDE. AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR A MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT KIND OF DIRECTION. STRATEGIC PLANNING HELPS DO THAT AND STEPHEN KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS I THINK WE INTRODUCED THIS THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE IS OUR LEVEL SIX GOVERNANCE CONCEPT AND THAT REALLY GETS TO THE THE CONCEPT THAT IF WHATEVER LEVEL THE COUNCIL IS OPERATING AT IS THE LEVEL THE STAFF WILL. SO IF YOU'RE ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT AS A AS AN ELECTED BODY THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS, THE STAFF IS NEVER GOING TO THINK STRATEGICALLY.

THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO PULL UP. YOU BY LEGAL OBLIGATION HAVE WORK AT LEVEL THREE AT TIMES WHICH ARE YOUR LEGAL YOUR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS? OFTENTIMES AS ELECTED WE ARE FOCUSED ON LEVEL WHICH IS WHAT'S WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE SAYING TO US.

IF YOU ARE IF YOU IF DIRECTION IS ALWAYS AT THE CONSTITUENT LEVEL AND RISK AND YOU'RE REACTING CONSTANTLY AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS THE STAFF WILL NEVER PULL THEMSELVES UP AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE. YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY AND I WOULD OBVIOUSLY SO WE TRY TO BRING OUR COMMUNITIES INTO WHAT WE AT LEAST THE LEVEL FOUR ASPECT WHICH GETTING THEM INTO STRATEGIC PLANNING, THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE AT LEAST PUSHING PUSHING FORWARD BEYOND BEYOND TOMORROW'S YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE DAY AFTER THERE WILL BE ONE TO AND THEN WE WE'VE ALSO STARTED TALK TO CLIENTS ABOUT GOVERNANCE EXPECTATIONS THAT'S A SHARED EXPECTATION BETWEEN YOU AS AN ELECTED BODY AND THE TOWN MANAGER AND THE STAFF AND REALLY TRYING TO ELEVATE THAT NEXT THAT NEXT MOMENT WHEN YOU HIRED STEPHEN, I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T JUST SAY WELL COME ON IN.

THERE'S AN OFFICE ON THE CORNER AND THEN LEAVE HIM BE YOU GAVE HIM A SET OF EXPECTATIONS AND WE REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT WITH WITH ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS TO REALLY TALK ABOUT EXPECTATIONS YOU WOULD NEVER BE A SUPERVISOR AND HIRE AN EMPLOYEE AND NOT TELL THEM WHAT EXPECTED.

SO WE TRY TO TO BRING SOME OF THOSE EXPECTATION SIGNS. AGAIN, WE THINK BLUFFTON HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB BUT EVEN WITHOUT THE FORMAL PROCESS AND THEN FINALLY IS THIS LEVEL SIX WHICH IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT ORGANIZATION TIONAL EXCELLENCE AND ANNIE ALREADY HAS A PLAN IN PLACE TO TO MOVE THIS ORGANIZATION THAT REGARD SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT USING BLUFFTON AN EXAMPLE WITH OUR OTHER CLIENTS WE WE JUST ABSOLUTELY APPLAUD YOU GUYS IN MOVING MOVING YOUR COMMUNITY FORWARD AND REALLY GETTING THINGS DONE.

SO STRATEGIC FOCUS REALLY WHAT WE'VE WHAT WE'VE BROUGHT IT HELPS IT HELPS THE STAFF UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IMPORTANT YOU YOU ARE COMMUNICATING TO THE COMMUNITY WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE IMPORTANT. WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON FOCUS AREAS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES OVER THE YEARS AND THOSE SEEM TO BE HOLDING UP. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A JUST A SHORT DISCUSSION ON ONE ITEM TODAY BUT WE'RE REALLY WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT IN VERY DISTINCT WAYS AND THIS WILL HELP NOT ONLY THIS DISCOUNT SCHOOL BUT THE

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WE ASKED HEATHER AND STEVEN AND CHRIS TO PUT TOGETHER A FEW SLIDES FOR US TO KIND OF REVIEW WHERE YOU'RE AT. YOU GUYS WANT TO JUMP IN OR I'LL JUST ROLL THROUGH.

I KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT BUT UM, I CAN I CAN TALK ABOUT EACH LINE LIKE HOW ARE PEOPLE FIX THE WATER. PERFECT. THERE YOU GO.

OKAY. SO AS YOU KNOW IN YOUR BINDER AND WHAT'S IN THE PACKET AND ONLINE IS A LIST OF ALL OF THE I BELIEVE 73 INITIATIVES THAT WE HAD OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS THAT ADDRESS THEIR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES THAT ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE FOCUS AREAS AND YOU KNOW SCRAPBOOK LIKE SURE THE WE TELL US WHERE WE ARE IN THE BANNER BECAUSE EVERY PLAN WE GO FROM TAB 1282723 AND NEVER HAS CHANGED ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC AND I SEE A FEW NEW PEOPLE MARCIA JUST SEND US THE LINK TO ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS. IS IT POSSIBLE WE CAN SHARE THAT BECAUSE I DO LIKE COURTNEY HAS A COMPUTER SOME PEOPLE HAVE A COMPUTER AND THEY CAN FOLLOW ALONG AND FINALLY THERE'S ONE SOMEBODY POPPED IN AND YOU HAVE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

YES, WE'RE WAITING FOR SOUTH CAROLINA GLEN POP IN. YOU GOT TO SAY WHO YOU ARE.

OH, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS GOING TO COME BACK. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND YOU'RE JUST YOU KNOW THERE'S A QR THAT TAKES YOU TO THE ONLINE PACKET BACK ON THE TABLE THERE ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS SCAN IT AND WE'LL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO EVERYTHING. OKAY I'LL GET THAT. THERE'S A QR CODE YOU CAN SCAN AND MELINDA HAS IT CHRISTINA FEEL OKAY? SORRY FOR THAT.

YOU'RE FINE. OKAY. SO IN THE BINDER IT WOULD BE AND WHEN YOU CLICK QR CODE AND THE ONLINE INFORMATION YOU CAN LOOK AT IT IN TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS DEPENDING ON YOUR PREFERENCE TAB FOR HAS EACH OF THE ITEMS LISTED ON A SEPARATE SHEET AND THEN TAB FURTHER ON IN THERE THAT FOLDS OUT THAT'S IN AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET FORMAT SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE EACH EACH ITEM IN EACH LINE SO TAB FOR YOU GOT A LOT OF FOLD OUTS. WE'VE GOT THEM HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SLIDES HERE THOUGH I THINK THEY'LL BE FOR YOU AND LIKE I SAID I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE BECAUSE THEY'RE 73 AND WE REALLY NEED TO WORK AND DISCUSS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE NEXT TWO YEARS. BUT JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT DO TRACK THIS STAFF TAKES THIS VERY SERIOUSLY IS OUR TO DO LIST BEYOND OUR DAILY RESPONSIBILITIES SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY OPERATIONAL OR THINGS TO CARRY FORWARD WE KNOW THAT BUSINESS LICENSE THEY THEY INTAKE AND REVIEW BUSINESS LICENSE ON A DAILY BASIS SO THAT'S YOU WON'T SEE THINGS LIKE THAT LISTED HERE IT'S MORE THOSE LIKE I SAID THOSE PROJECTS AND STRATEGIC ACTION ITEMS TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS THAT WE ALL DISCUSSED YOU'LL LOOK THROUGH IT THERE'S 20 ITEMS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED SO WE'VE FINISHED IT. IT MAY BECOME OPERATIONAL NOW SO IT DOESN'T WE JUST PUSH IT ON THE SHELF AND WE'RE DONE WITH IT BUT THAT STRATEGIC ACTION TO EITHER ESTABLISH THE POLICIES OR RESEARCH PROGRAM OR PUT IT IN PLACE THAT'S BEEN COMPLETE. SO LIKE SAID YOU'LL SEE IT MAY BECOME OPERATIONAL SUCH AS THE HOUSING TRUST FUND THAT WAS CREATED THAT WAS ESTABLISHED SO IT'S CHECKED OFF IS COMPLETED.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE DONE WITH IT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE FORWARD IT'S JUST IT'S

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WE STILL HAVE LET'S SAY HAD MY MATH ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS LEFT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL FINISH MORE PROJECTS WITHIN THAT AND IF NOT WE'LL CARRY FORWARD IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR . OKAY, BILL, SO JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE LIKE I REFERENCED THE BEAUFORT JASPER REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND FUNDED AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND THROUGH WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVES ON THAT COMMITTEE THE PUBLIC PROJECT. I'M GOING TO MOVE US OVER A LITTLE BIT. SORRY YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW. OKAY.

SORRY AWKWARD TO GO BACK AND FORTH THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR HOUSING THAT'S MOVING FORWARD SO THE HOMES ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND SO THAT PROJECT AT 1095 ME RIVER ROAD IS MOVING HOPEFULLY WE BREAK GROUND BEFORE FISCAL YEAR BUT LIKE I SAID IT'S KIND OF IN PERMITTING AND OUTSIDE AGENCIES BUT IT IS AGAIN MOVING FORWARD AND CONTINUED YOU WILL SEE THAT ITEM CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE AS COUNCIL KNOWS WE HAVE MORE PROPERTIES AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THOSE PARTNERSHIPS QUALITY OF LIFE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETE SO TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTED BLUEPRINT BLUFFTON AND IN THE NEXT NOT IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS YOU'LL SEE AN UPDATE BECAUSE EVERY FIVE YEARS WE DO HAVE TO REVIEW AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL ALIGNED AND EVERY TEN YEARS IS THE MAJOR REWRITE SO THAT WAS THAT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT AND THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

BUCK ISLAND SIMMONS VILLE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT IS IN THE DRAFT STAGE.

SO WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW WE'RE CONTINUING AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING THAT FINAL DRAFT PLAN TO THE COMMUNITY FOR FINAL COMMENTS AND WE'LL BE BRINGING IT TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS SO THAT WILL BE COMPLETE BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR AND THEN YOU'LL SEE LATER THIS AFTERNOON MAYBE LATER THIS MORNING OR THIS AFTERNOON THE NEXT STEP OF THAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.

SO WE'VE DRAFTED THE PLAN WORKING ON THAT ANTICIPATE IT TO BE APPROVED IN SOME FORM THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THE NEXT THE NEXT ACTION AGENDA ITEM WOULD BE THE IMPLEMENTATION THOSE ACTION ITEMS THAT RESULT FROM IT. COMMUNITY NEWSLETTER MANY OF YOU IN THIS ROOM I'M SURE IN MAILBOX RECEIVED THE HARD COPY NEWSLETTER THAT THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM PULLED TOGETHER. SO ONE THING THAT CAME OUT LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE HERE IS WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO COMMUNICATE BUT SOMETIMES IS STILL A PRODUCTIVE WAY. YOU KNOW PEOPLE STILL LIKE THAT PAPER IN THEIR HANDS READ IT YOU KNOW, CLIP IT ON THE REFRIGERATOR OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

SO WE DO THAT TWICE A YEAR AND CONTINUING MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC PLAN CHIEF BERKOWITZ AND HIS TEAM HAVE DEVELOPED THAT STRATEGIC PLAN AND ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION STEPS OF THAT AND THEN THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM THAT APPROVED BY COUNCIL THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM AND PUBLIC COMMITTEE HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND THEY'VE START TO THEY'VE STARTED TO MEET AND PRIORITIZE LOCATIONS AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. SO THAT IS NOW BECOMING OPERATIONAL IN FOCUS AND MOVING FORWARD ECONOMIC SO THE BUCKWALTER PLACE MULTI-COUNTY COMMERCE PARK PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AGAIN THAT WAS SOMETHING WAS RECENTLY APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL TO WORK WITH A PARTNER TO CONSTRUCT SOME BUILDINGS AND SOME SPACES ANOTHER FOR THE DON RYAN CENTER SO THAT WE ARE JUST FINALIZING THE LEGAL AGREEMENTS ACTUALLY IT HAS BEEN SIGNED SO ACCOMPLISHED AND NOW THAT WILL BECOME UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT SO THAT WAS THAT WAS A BIG LIFT AND I THINK THAT GREAT PROGRESS WITH THAT PARTNERSHIPS TO ACCEPT DONATIONS AS YOU KNOW OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE OF SOMEONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PLANT A TREE OR PUT OUT A BENCH OR YOU KNOW THEY'D LIKE TO TO GIVE IN SOME WAY DIDN'T A FORMAL PROCESS OF HOW TO DO THIS OR YOU KNOW, WE JUST KIND OF WE FIGURED IT OUT AS WE WENT BUT JUST YOU KNOW, WALKED THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW WE DO IT AND ABLE TO ACCEPT THOSE DONATIONS. SO THAT'S BEEN BEEN DONE IN A CHECK AND THEN KEY PERFORMANCE WELL HOW ARE WE DOING? WE DO A LOT OF THINGS AND

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BUT DID DID THE PROGRAM WORK WAS IT SUCCESSFUL? DO WE NEED TO TWEAK IT SO THAT THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS HAVE COME UP WITH SOME MEASURABLES? AGAIN, IT'S MEASURABLE FOR THE PROGRAM, FOR THE STAFF. WHAT DO WE NEED DO TO TWEAK IT OR DO WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, PIVOT AND DO SOMETHING? SO THAT'S BEEN DONE AND WE ARE MONITORING THAT AND STAFF PUTTING THAT AND GETTING THAT ON THE WEBSITE SO IT'S ALL TRANSPARENT AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH IT LOTS WITH A MAY RIVER IN THE SURROUNDING RIVERS AND WATERSHEDS THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT STUDY HAS BEEN COMPLETE. YOU SAW A LOT OF THIS OUT YOUR WORKSHOP A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM BW PRESENTATION LATER BUT THE STONY CREEK SEWER AND OUR GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT THAT IS MOVING FORWARD WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE OFF SEPTIC AND ON THE SEWER SYSTEM AND PROTECT THE MAIN RIVER THAT'S REGIONAL PROJECT THAT AFFECTS US ALL SO WE'RE A BIG PARTNER IN THAT AND PUSHING THAT FORWARD SEWER CONNECTION PROGRAM THEY'RE CONTINUING TO AS HAVE SEWER LINES AND GET THOSE CONNECTIONS IN PLACE AND A PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE FINANCIALLY OR JUST TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS IF THEY QUALIFY TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT CONVERSION. SO STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND ALL OF OUR SEWER PROJECTS AND THEN JUST CONTINUING GOING THROUGH THAT WATERSHED ACTION PLAN AND THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED THROUGH THAT SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THAT IN THE NEXT ONE. SO AT THE LAST TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP WE WENT THROUGH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WHICH ONES WERE IN EACH BUCKET, WHICH ONES ARE UNDER GOING TO BE COMPLETED SOON? WHICH ONES ARE IN DESIGN PHASE, WHICH ONES ARE CARRYOVER? SO THERE'S A LOT OF THAT AND IF ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WANTED TO LOOK BACK ALL THAT PRESENTATION IS LINKED AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT IN MORE DETAIL BUT SOME OF OUR BIG PROJECTS THE NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PARK, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING IN THERE SIDEWALKS AND DRAINAGE PONDS STUFF THAT US TOWN STAFF THINK IS PRETTY EXCITING. NOT SUPER PRETTY YET BUT IT'S DEFINITELY MOVING FORWARD AND SO WE'VE SIGNED THE CONTRACT FOR THE NEXT STEPS WITH THAT SO THAT'LL BE GREAT WITH THE NEW PLAYGROUND AND EVENT FACILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT SPLASH PAD RIGHT HERE AT OSCAR FRASER PARK THAT SHOULD BE FINISHED HOPE BY JUNE AND DEFINITELY THIS SUMMER EVERYTHING GOING AS PLANNED A SPLASH PAD HERE AT THE PARK OYSTER FACTORY PARK SOME MORE IMPROVEMENTS FOR EVENTS AND TO ADJUST TO USERS, YOU KNOW, SO FOOD TRUCKS CAN GET IN THERE.

ACCESSIBILITY JUST CONTINUE TO ELEVATE THAT SPACE JUST PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT ALWAYS CHANGING THINGS OUT. WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S SAFE AND CURRENT IN WHAT THE KIDS AND THE USERS WOULD LIKE MAKE SURE IT'S ACCESSIBLE FOR FOR EVERYONE.

I'M CONTINUING TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SOME EQUIPMENT GOING IN AT DEVOS PARK JUST REFRESHING THAT BRIDGE STREET BRIDGE STREETS STREETSCAPE PHASE ONE SOME PARKING'S BEEN DELINEATED JUST SIDEWALKS THINGS LIKE THAT SO THE FIRST PHASE HAS BEEN COMPLETE AND THE SQUARE POPE CARRIAGE HOUSE YOU SAW THAT RAISED TO THAT GOING THROUGH THE REHABILITATION PROCESS AND THAT EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE WORKING WITH SCAD PRO WHO'S COMING UP WITH SOME INNOVATIVE AND THINGS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AT THAT WORKSHOP TO USE AS OUR WELCOME CENTER AND JUST KIND OF A HUB THERE FOR WRIGHT FAMILY PARK HERE'S A LOT OF WHAT I JUST KIND OF TOUCHED ON. YOU CAN SEE THE LIST OF WHAT'S COMPLETE OR WILL BE COMPLETE SOON WE'VE GOT LIKE OYSTER FACTOR PARKING LOT FOR A PORTION OF OVER AT THE LSC OUR POLICE STATION GET THAT THE CHALLENGE COURSE THE FITNESS COURSE THAT THEY GO THROUGH GARVIN GARVEY HOUSE IF YOU GO INSIDE THERE THE INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE ALL THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETE SOME PROJECTS SIDEWALKS AND AGAIN SOME STREETSCAPE HERE'S THAT LIST A LOT I'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON THERE JUST KIND OF LISTS OUT THE SCHEDULE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT PROJECTS YOU'RE GOING TO FOR READING.

OKAY SO IN HEATHER ARE THESE SLIDES ARE THEY AVAILABLE? YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM LATER.

WE WILL BE YES. YES FOR EVERYBODY YOU GOT THEM WAITLIST?

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THIS IS A LOT THAT'S SIMPLE. SO THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WILL WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH CONTRACTS AND THINGS WILL BE WE ANTICIPATE TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR SO JUNE 30TH SO MOVING FORWARD LIKE I SAID THE PARK A LOT OF OUR PARK PROJECT SPLASH PAD THE EVENT SPACE AND LIGHTING AND LIGHTS AND ALL OF THAT AND MORE DETAILS IN THE BINDERS IS AVAILABLE AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET THIS PRESENTATION LINKED UP AFTER THE MEETING AND AND ALL OF THIS WAS A RESULT OF OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING THE LAST TWO YEARS AND SO IT'S REALLY A TIME FOR REALLY COMMENTS OTHER THAN JUST TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE HAS BEEN BUDGETED AND IT'S IN THE THE PLAN SO I'LL DEFINITELY LOOK TO MORE COMMENTS WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT DISCUSSION SO OKAY GREAT. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT SURVEYS WE'VE WE CHANGE THOSE A LITTLE BIT PARTICULARLY HERE IN THE DELIVERY OF THE OF THE QUESTIONS SO I'M GOING TO LOOK WHAT TAB THE SURVEY IT'S NOT TOO I BET IT'S 877 AND IT'S AT THE THE FIRST PART IS THE TAB SEVEN IS THE WORKBOOK SO GO THROUGH THE FIRST 14 PAGES.

YEAH IT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT THERE YOU GO LARRY SCOTT IT STARTS WITH A BIG GREEN BAR IN THE MIDDLE OF IT THERE OR ONE OF 31 OF 13 HERE YOU GO. ONE OF 13 IS THE START OF THE SITE AFTER PAGE 18. YEAH, WE DIDN'T PUT THE BOOK TOGETHER.

OKAY SO AS USUAL WE DID THE SAME SURVEY FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE LEADERSHIP TEAM.

UH, WE ARE REALLY WORRIED IN ANY COMMUNITY THAT WE MAINTAIN ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE COUNCIL, THE STAFF SO WE SENSE IDENTICAL SURVEYS TO BOTH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL STILL MARCHING IN THE SAME PARADE AND WE CLEARLY ARE BASED ON THESE SURVEY RESULTS SO WE BEGIN THE SURVEY JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE MISSION AND VISION STATEMENTS ARE OUR CURRENT.

SEE THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS IN THERE BUT WHOLESALE ALL CHANGES EVERYBODY IS STILL IN PRETTY TIGHT AGREEMENT WITH WITH YES YOU BELIEVE THE MISSION STILL HOLDS UP? YES, WE BELIEVE THAT OUR STATEMENT IS STILL THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIVERGENCE OCCURRING THERE AS WELL. SO THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD SIGN.

YES, MA'AM. THIS IS JUST COUNCIL SAID YOU DID STAFF TO.

YES. DO WE NOT HAVE THEIR RESULTS? YOU DO NOT SAW THE STAFF RESULTS AS WELL AS YOUR RESULTS REALLY KIND OF INFORM THE GOING FORWARD WHAT PROJECTS DO WE NEED YOU WILL YOU WILL SEE THE RESULT OF THAT IN LIST OF THE OF THE PROJECT SO HAVE NEVER SEEN THE LEADERSHIP TEAM SURVEY RESULTS AND WE WE LIKE TO WE LIKE TO JUST SHOW YOU YOURS JUST TO JUST KIND OF SEE WHERE THINGS AT AND KNOW THAT YOUR MATERIAL IS IN THERE MOSTLY THE COMMENTS BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TALK TO ONE ANOTHER OR HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS. THESE SURVEY RESULTS GIVE SOME VERY RAW THOUGHTS SO I REALIZE THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME NOW. SO WHEN YOU COME UP YOU KNOW LATER MAYBE THERE WILL BE SOME DISCUSSION AT LUNCH OR ANOTHER DAY WHEN YOU GO HEY DID YOU SEE THAT THAT ONE COMMENT THAT ONE OF US MADE IS USUALLY HOW THIS HOW THIS AS OTHERS UNFOLD SO WE WERE VERY CURIOUS TO SEE ABOUT HOW YOU ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE OF YOUR CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN AND EVERYONE IS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THAT AS WELL. QUESTIONS FOR THROUGH TEN FOCUSED ON EACH OF YOUR FOCUS AREAS AND CHALLENGES AND ISSUES YOU ALL THOUGHT WERE RELATED TO THAT ANYTHING WAS RAISED IN THESE QUESTIONS THROUGH TEN THOSE POPULATED THE PROJECTS GOING FORWARD SO THAN GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE SURVEY QUESTIONS WITH YOU AS WE HAVE

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SURE AND I'VE SAT WITH AND STAFF WHERE WE WORK AND WE'VE WORKED SO HARD TO BE TEAM IT'S HONEST DISCUSSION LIKE I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE QUESTION TO I THAT BRINGS UP SHOULD COUNCIL DISCUSS DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORIC AND DISTRICT IN THE MAE RIVER IN OUR MISSION STATEMENT I MEAN ISN'T NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD COME OUT OF THIS THIS DAY WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROCESS I WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAY THAT RIGHT THIS AFTERNOON. SO LET ME GO BACK TO THIS PAGE THEN OR SHOULD WE TALK YOU ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND AND MAYBE I'M ALONE ON THIS WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION.

SO ON PAGE TWO OR 13 OR HAPPY WITH THE MISSION STATEMENT ONE IS NOT AND THE RESPONSE WAS IN SOME WAY I'D LIKE TO SEE AS MUCH FOCUS ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN THE MAE RIVER IN THE MISSION STATEMENT. SO IS THAT A IF ONLY ONE THINKS THAT THEY NEED TO OTHER PEOPLE BUT SHOULDN'T AT LEAST PUT THAT ON STEVEN'S PLATE TO ADDRESS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NOW BUT HOW DO WE REWORD AND I HAVE AN EIGHT PARAGRAPH MISSION STATEMENT BUT UM AND I'M JUST ON PAGE TWO I HADN'T EVEN LOOKED AT THE RIGHT NOW I UNDERSTAND SO WHAT WE HAVE HAS OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT WHEN ONE INDIVIDUAL HAS AN ISSUE SOMETIMES THE STAFF IS AWARE OF WHO THAT ONE PERSON IS AND CAN WORK WITH THEM TO. UPDATE THAT IF WE SAW MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR HEY WE NEED TO REALLY MAKE SOME WHOLESALE CHANGES TO OUR MISSION STATEMENT THEN WE GENERALLY SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A PROJECT A REWRITE OF THE MISSION STATEMENT BUT WITH IT BEING A SINGULAR COMMENT WE GENERALLY DON'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD UNLESS WHICH IS WHY WE SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE TALKING ABOUT THESE COMMENTS.

THE OTHER THING MARY COUNCIL IS IN A FEW MINUTES WILL BE GETTING INTO YOUR INTO YOUR FOCUS AREAS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND WHEN WHEN BILL AND I REVIEWED THIS STATEMENT THAT ACTUALLY BE EMBEDDED IN SOME OF THOSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A MAY AS YOU NOW I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE YOU'RE SO OR SEVERAL AGO WE PUT IN A MAY RIVER FOCUS AREA SO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT AND THAT THAT EMPHASIZES IS THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO ALWAYS SO THAT IS IN THERE THE QUESTION ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IS WHETHER OR NOT WILL BLENDED IN SOMEWHERE WITHIN A FOCUS AREA OR GUIDING PRINCIPLE WHEN WHEN WE GET TO IN THERE YOUR MISSION STATEMENT YOU KNOW OTHERWISE YOUR MISSION STATE DO YOU HEAR ME OKAY YEAH YOU CAN'T TALK IN YET.

YEAH WELL THIS IS WE'VE REALIZED THESE AREN'T AS GOOD AS WE THOUGHT THEY WERE.

YEAH, THIS IS. WOW. IS THAT BETTER? YEAH. OKAY. SO DO I HAVE TO REPEAT ANY OF THAT OR I GO OKAY SO THAT THE FACT IS ON THOSE TWO STATEMENTS WE HAVE A FOCUS AREA ON MAY RIVER THAT IS PRETTY, PRETTY EXTENSIVE AND IN TERMS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AS WE GO THROUGH AND IN A FEW MINUTES AT YOUR FOCUS AREAS AND YOUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WHERE WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE MORE FOCUS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WE CAN MEASURE YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING YOUR MISSION STATEMENT MISSION STATEMENT IS AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY IT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SPECIFIC AND AND DIRECT THE STAFF IN THE AREAS IN IN WHAT YOU WANT STAFF TO TO WORK ON AND IF WE START PUTTING IN WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE MAE RIVER, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THEN WHY NOT PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE? WHY NOT PUT IN PUBLIC SAFETY? YOU START YOU KNOW YOU START BROADENING THAT MISSION STATEMENT AS OPPOSED TO KEEPING IT FAIRLY GENERIC.

SO JUST I SEE YOU I DON'T KNOW THAT I AGREE BUT OKAY I'M PUTTING ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS

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YEAH YEAH, FOR ME I THINK KEEP IN IT GENERIC OR IN A SENSE AMBIGUOUS LIKE THIS ALLOWS IT TO BE A LITTLE MORE ALL ENCOMPASSING I THINK YOU KNOW DEALING WITH THE PERCEPTION PEOPLE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT WE ARE MORE FOCUSED ON HISTORIC BLUFFTON OR OLD TOWN VERSUS LIKE A NEW TOWN AND. WE DON'T REALLY WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD MEMORY OF BOTH.

I THINK THAT MIGHT ONLY BOLSTER THAT POINT FOR SOME PEOPLE TO FEEL THAT OUR FOCUS AND CONCERN IS ONLY FOR ONE PART OF BLUFFTON AND NOT ALL I LIKE THE WAY IT IS NOW THAT IT DOESN'T SINGLE OUT ANY PARTICULAR AREA PART. IT JUST SPEAKS TO THE OUR FOCUS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITIES. I WOULD BE CONCERNED IF WE START TO PUT IN YOU KNOW CERTAIN AREAS AND NOT OTHERS AND WHAT THOSE IMPLICATIONS TO OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT I MUST BE MUCH TOO CLOSE TO BRIDGET BECAUSE WE'RE ALL HERE. THAT'S I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SEPARATE OR DESIGNATE CERTAIN AREAS FOR MORE FOCUS THAN OTHERS YOU KNOW BECAUSE WE WE'RE BIG JUST MY OPINION NO THAT'S WHY I JUST BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

I'M OKAY SO WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE THAT I DON'T NORMALLY AGREE WITH BRIDGET AND LARRY BUT BUT THIS MORNING I WILL THERE YOU GOT THE VISION STATEMENT TALKED ABOUT THE PATH FORWARD SO YOU GOT HISTORIC THINGS COVERED IN YOUR VISION STATEMENT AND MAYBE YOU LOOK AT OUR MENTAL CONCERN IN THE VISION WHICH WOULD COVER THE CLAUSE IN OUR THERE THAT WOULD COVER THE COMMENT ON AND I THINK YOU'RE HOLY SMOKES YEAH I'M GOING TO BE RIGHT ON TOP OF THIS THING. I THINK WE MIGHT I THINK YOU HAVE TO DECIDE FORWARD.

DO YOU WANT TO PERHAPS LOOK AT A PROJECT MISSION STATEMENT REWRITE? IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO IN A 15 MINUTE SEGMENT OF A DAY LIKE TODAY.

IT'S A IT'S A DEDICATED, YOU KNOW, EFFORT AND THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE DOES THIS FALL IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AS WELL.

SO I JUST LEAVE THAT TO STAFF FOR FOR THEIR FUTURE CONSIDERATION TO BRING IT BACK TO TO THE COUNCIL SO WHICH IS WHY WE END UP NOT HAVING THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION. SO WE MOVE INTO LIKE I SAID QUESTIONS FOUR THROUGH TEN LOOKING AT WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE WHERE WHERE ARE AT THAT POPULATED THE THE PROJECT LIST BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY HEY COUNCIL WHAT ARE WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS UNDER EACH ONE OF OUR FOCUSES AREAS WHAT OUR WHAT CHALLENGES DO YOU SEE WHAT SOLUTIONS DO YOU THINK THERE ARE OUT THERE STAFF THEY TOLD US YESTERDAY WHICH WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T REALIZE BECAUSE OUR OUR NORMAL PROCESS MIKE I COME IN AND WE GO HEY HERE'S THE WHOLE LIST OF WHAT WE GLEANED FROM THAT THAT THE SURVEY AND OUR LIST IS GENERALLY PRETTY WE HAD RECEIVED A DRAFT LIST FROM STEPHEN THE EXECUTIVE TEAM AND IT ALREADY HAD EVERYTHING BUT ABOUT FOUR PROJECTS IN THERE AND WHAT THEY TOLD YESTERDAY WAS THROUGHOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THEY TRACK THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT. THEY DON'T JUST LET IT LINGER WHICH I WISH THEY DID IN MY MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KEEP REHASHING THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

SO WAS IT WAS WE HAVE A VERY EXTENSIVE LIST OF PROJECTS AND IT IS A RESULT OF OF WHAT YOU HAD. SO I THINK YOU WILL SEE IF YOU FILLED THE SURVEY OUT AND YOU SAID I'M WORRIED ABOUT X, I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE PROJECT LIST YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THERE. IT'S ADDRESSED IN THERE. SO THIS IS MERELY MORE KIND OF INFORMATIVE OF OF WHERE WHERE WE GO QUESTIONS TEN THROUGH 39 FOCUSED ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION SO THAT'S TEN THROUGH 13 AND THIS IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY YOUR ANSWERS WERE INFORMATIVE FOR THE STAFF GOING FORWARD WHICH REALLY IF YOU RECALL WE DID I

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SO THE REASON WE WANTED TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS IS WE'VE HEARD A LOT OVER THE LAST REALLY YEAR ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION SOME OF THE PROCESSES THE COMMITTEE STEPS MAKING IT EASIER TO ASSESS THE TO TO WORK THROUGH OUR PROCESSES IT MORE USER FRIENDLY ALSO ABOUT WHY YOU KNOW HOW SOME OF OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES ARE DESIGNATED HISTORIC AND WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP LOOKS LIKE BETWEEN THE STATE AND US ALL THE DIFFERENT AND THE TWO DIFFERENT HISTORIC DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE SO REALLY WANTED TO GET KIND OF COUNCIL'S BASELINE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION MEANS TO Y'ALL.

SO AS WE START PUTTING PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO START ADDRESSING THIS AND WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND AS A GROUP WHAT YOUR DEFINITION OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS WHAT YOUR WHAT YOUR CORE VALUES ARE OF IT IS SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE SETTING IN PLACE SOMETHING THAT ALL OF Y'ALL ARE GOING TO SUPPORT AND AGREE TO TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLANNING, OUR PROCESS AND OUR DISTRICT AND ALL OF THAT IS REFLECTIVE. THOSE CORE VALUES THAT COUNCIL HAS VERY SIMILAR WE DID WITH DRC LAST TIME WE WANTED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHEN YOU ASK EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY WHAT DOES HISTORIC PRESERVATION MEAN TO YOU FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON 80% OF THE CONTENT BETWEEN ALL FIVE OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE PART OF IT THAT IS TO EACH OF YOU. SOME OF YOU MAY SAY I DON'T THINK THAT THIS THAT WE DO HERE IS NECESSARILY AS IMPORTANT AS THIS AND SOMEBODY MAY HAVE THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE IDEA.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AT 80% THAT IS THE BASELINE THAT WE GET THAT RIGHT THEN THE OTHER 20% WE LOOK AT PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT TO BE CONSISTENT AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OF COUNCIL SUPPORT THAT GOOD URBAN QUESTIONS I QUESTIONS 11 THROUGH 13 I'M JUST LIKE I'M JUST EDIT NOTES ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO IT'S QUESTIONS THAT OH QUESTIONS 1112 AND 13 AND BE WHAT IS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN BLUFFTON MEAN TO YOU MAYBE THAT'S AN OVERALL UMBRELLA BECAUSE THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ALL NEED TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT AND WHY WE CREATE IT AND WHY IS IT HERE AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S YEAH EMPHASIS WAS PUT ON THE SQUARE MILE BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE WERE IN 1986 AND WE WANTED TO BE SOMETHING AND REALLY WHY I THINK THE KEY TO PEOPLE MOVING HERE BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE THAT ONE SQUARE MILE SO THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT BUT. I'M EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THIS AFTER LUNCH. THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE SETTING UP .

THAT'S THE PLAN FOR THAT. SO SO RATHER THAN AGAIN GO THROUGH EACH ONE SO YOU'VE GOT THE SURVEY RESULTS SO YOU KIND OF SEE WHAT EVERYBODY WHAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT WHERE THEY WERE THEY LANDED ON ON THOSE THOSE TOPICS SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN ITSELF ,WE'VE KIND OF BOILED ALL OF OUR SLIDES DOWN TO THIS ONE WHICH REALLY ARE ABOUT FOCUS AREAS BEING THOSE STATEMENTS RESULT IN WE WILL WHAT WE WILL ALWAYS DO SO WE WILL ALWAYS AND THAT'S YOUR FOCUS AREA THE GUIDING UNDERNEATH EACH ONE OF THOSE ARE THOSE STATEMENTS THAT AND THIS IS HOW WE'LL DO IT AND THEN THE PROJECTS ARE AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF OUR SYSTEM IN A NUTSHELL AND IT REALLY HELPS KIND OF MOVE THINGS FORWARD WE HAVE MADE SOME TWEAKS OVER THE YEARS FROM WHAT WE WHAT WE'VE DONE WE ADDED AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING I THINK NOT THE LAST SESSION BUT SESSION BEFORE THAT. I THINK WE TWEAKED THAT THE LAST TIME AND I THINK WE'RE

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AND THEN AS A QUICK REMINDER, THIS IS THESE ARE YOUR FOCUS WHERE WE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE AND I'M GOING TO NEED JUST A MOMENT TO RESHUFFLE THE SLIDE PRESENTATION AND GET INTO DOING SOME WORK. SO GIVE ME JUST A SECOND AND WE'LL GET THIS TURNED OVER REAL QUICK DO YOU NEED LIKE 2 MINUTES BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN GET UP AND GET COFFEE OR YEAH GET A COFFEE RESTROOM DON'T GATHER AND CHAT. THERE YOU GO WE'RE NOT TAKING A BREAK BUT JUST KNOW AND WHAT'S LIKELY YOU STOOD UP SO YOU CAN TELL EVERYBODY WHO YOU ARE WHAT BLAKELY WILLIAMS DOMINION ENERGY THANKS FOR HAVING ME AND HELPS CAME IN VERY WHICH I WOULDN'T MAKE GET UP BUT 3 MINUTES TO GET UP AND SAY WHO YOU ARE YOU'RE OUR HISTORIAN AND OUR KEY YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND UP BUT SAY SOMETHING THAT GREAT COFFEE OR ARE WE ON TARGET? WHERE ARE WE GONE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING NOW IS WHERE YOU'RE FROM. THERE'S BEEN A GOOD PORTION OF YOUR TIME THIS MORNING AND THIS IS ITEM FOUR TOWN COUNCIL DISCUSSION STRATEGIC PRIORITIES THAT WHERE WE ARE SO IN SOME 10:00 WE'LL PROBABLY SPEND AN HOUR AND THISOUR MAN I DON'T HAE MINUTES.

THANK YOU STEPHEN OKAY. LET'S GO YOU IF Y'ALL ARE HAPPY WE'RE HAPPY.

THEY'LL GATHER WHEN YOU TALK THEY WON'T WHEN I DO. OKAY.

SO IT'S A EXCELLENT IN AMERICAN COUNCIL. GOOD MORNING

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MAYBE ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS BUT THEN YOU HAD TO ANSWER WE LOST IT LIKE THERE WAS NO WAY TO. IT WAS AND WE'RE TAKING NOTES ON THAT WE'VE MAYOR WE IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF FLAWS IN THE LAST FEW SURVEY WE THOUGHT WE WERE STREAMLINING IT IN FACT WE MADE IT MORE COMPLICATED SO WE'RE SEE THE SURVEY AGAIN WELL IT'LL LOOK DIFFERENT AND SEE THAT ON PAPER I DON'T I KNOW FOR ME I'M LIKE WHAT DID I MEAN BY THAT? BUT THEN I REMEMBERED I HAD COMPUTER UP LOOKING AND SO IN MY YEAH OKAY SO YOU GOT TO GET IT CLOSER TO YOU WE'VE GOT TO GET WELL THIS IS WHERE I'M TRYING TO THIS THING IS LIKE GLEN CAN YOU HERE IN THE BACK WITH US TALKING OKAY SO WE NEED TO TALK LOUDER WE CAN TALK OKAY . SORRY YOU YEAH WELL LET'S JUST TALKING TO THE WORLD.

WELL YES IT'S I HATE MIKES BUT WE I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO USE THEM.

OKAY SO ANY ON THIS FOCUS AREA I WOULD SAY I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE OR OF US IN TERMS OF GETTING SOME MORE CLARITY ON THERE AND I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR EVERYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS TOO BECAUSE THAT THAT TERM IS DEFINITELY SO BROAD LIKE WHAT WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AND GUIDING PRINCIPLE PARTICULARLY THE SECOND SENTENCE WHICH SAYS WE SUPPORT AND PROMOTE PROMOTE CULTURAL ACTIVITIES THAT REFLECT OUR HISTORIC LEGACY LEGACY.

OH I THINK IT I LIKE IT BROAD BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT NUMBER TWO BEFORE I READ NUMBER ONE AND THE CULTURAL WE WERE A CULTURAL WE WERE MULTI GENERATION BUT WE'RE THIS LITTLE SMALL TOWN IN SOUTHERN SOUTH CAROLINA IS MULTICULTURAL AS WELL THE GOING BACK TO NUMBER ONE I SEE IT AS IT'S JUST A BROAD BRUSH THAT THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL THE SUBSETS THAT THUNDER IT RATHER THAN MISSING SOMETHING IF WE DETAILED IT THAT'S KIND OF WAS BRIDGET ON IT ANYONE ELSE YOU KNOW I AGREE I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE DETAILED WAS JUST IN READING IT AND THE EVEN THE FIRST PART IS DORIC AND CULTURAL IT'S ALMOST LIKE ONE COULD BE ONE IN THE SAME SO IT COULD JUST BE HISTORIC BUT AS A CULTURAL I WANT I WANT TO I THINK LAST YEAR WE ADDED TWO YEARS TWO YEARS AGO I THINK WE ACTUALLY CULTURAL IN BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE MORE REPRESENTATIVE BESIDES JUST HISTORIC PROPERTIES WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURED THE CULTURAL HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY AS I REMEMBER A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND THAT LAST YEAR AND I LOOK AT HISTORICAL AS DID ALREADY HAPPEN AND CULTURAL STILL ALIVE I MEAN NO I CAN YOU KNOW AGREE WELL WE GOT THE WHOLE THING YOU

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SO WE'RE A HISTORIC DISTRICT. WE'RE A CULTURAL DISTRICT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO LET PEOPLE OF THAT. BUT THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS. THIS THE ONE TO SERVE THE CULTURE AS TELL ME WHERE YOU ARE WHERE YOU SERVE THE CULTURE OF THE CULTURE YEAH PRESERVE AND ENHANCE THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL IDENTITY SET THIS SAME WAY IT IS I DON'T I'M GOOD WITH IT I'M FINE JUST THREE BRIDGET DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK YOU MORE OR LESS JUST ASK FOR THE REST WHEN THEY FIRST BROUGHT IT UP IT'S HIGHLIGHTED BECAUSE OF THAT REASON THEY WANTED IT FROM US TOO. IT'S I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH EITHER ONE OF THE WORDS IS MORE SO IF IT'S OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLE IN THE SENSE OF HOW ARE WE STEWARDING YOU KNOW THE PRINCIPLE THAT WE HAVE AND I THINK IT'S RESPONSIBILITY AND HOW THAT IS PERCEIVED IN I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND FROM OTHERS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT HISTORIC NATURE I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S ALWAYS SEEN OR EVIDENCE THAT IT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING LIKE SOME PEOPLE THINK OF HISTORIC AS LIKE YOU SAID REPRESENT THINGS THAT ARE DEAD . I THINK SEE FROM JUST A GENERAL SOMETIMES FABRICATED LENS SO YOU KNOW IF PRESERVE ENHANCE ARE IN THERE MAYBE THINKING OF YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE COULD WE ADD TO THAT IN TERMS WHAT'S OUR ACTION VERB THAT WE'RE USING ON HOW STEWARDING THAT HISTORY IF THAT MAKES SENSE YEAH HOW ABOUT I MEAN I LIKE IT BUT IF YOU'RE THINKING IT PRESERVE ENHANCE AND EDUCATE WHAT I MEAN THERE'S WORD WE COULD USE WE'RE PRESERVING AND WE'RE ENHANCING BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT AND WE BELIEVE IN IT I LEAN ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING WITH LIKE THE SARAH HOOKS PROPERTY AND MAYBE IT'S SUPPORTIVE IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT. SO RILEY HOOKS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY MAKING IT AN ARTIST'S COTTAGE THAT CAN BE USED BY GULLAH ARTISTS AND THEN WE'RE BEING SUPPORTIVE OF THE HISTORIC I LIKE WE SAY CELEBRATE YOUR WORD. ALL RIGHT.

WELL YOU HAVE CELEBRATE UP THERE IT SHOULD BE MY GUIDING PRINCIPLE I THINK.

BUT IN THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE DO WANT TO SAY SUPPORTIVE OR CELEBRATE.

IT COULD BE WHAT DO YOU THINK? I'M FINE WITH ANYTHING. I LIKE THAT IDEA.

YEAH. TERRI SAYING PROMOTE PROMOTE AND TO PROMOTE WITH YOU ONES THAT PROMOTE REAL QUICK AND WE'LL MOVE ON PROMOTE AND NOT EDUCATE I LIKE PROMOTE BECAUSE WE ARE I MEANT YOU HAD THE OTHER THE OTHER WORD TOOK OUT. NO I DIDN'T I DIDN'T TAKE ANYTHING OUT. I OBSERVE ENHANCE, PRESERVE, PROMOTE AND ENHANCE SO WE MOVE ON. SO NOT NOT EDUCATE BUT PROMOTE WELL TO READY TO GO ON SO YOU THREE WHAT DO YOU WANT TO GO ON. WELL YOU YOU EDUCATING THE PUBLIC EVERY DAY I MEAN YOU'RE NOT JUST PROMOTING BUT YOU'RE EDUCATING THEM.

I MEAN PART OF THE OF OUR EFFORTS TO REACH OUT THROUGH THE MOBILE TOWN HALLS THE NEWSLETTER IS TO EDUCATE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW AND THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING YOU LIKE SCATTING DO YOU LIKE I WOULD LEAVE THE WAY IT IS MYSELF AND JUST ONE PERSON NOW CAITLIN IN WHICH DIRECTION BECAUSE I HAD A TWO WORDS OR YOU RIGHT LARRY SAYS LEAVE IT OBTENER DOWN YOU'RE DELETING THE WORD I ADDED AM I ADDING PROMOTER EDUCATE OR NEITHER SO PROMOTE EDUCATE YEAH PUT PUT PROMOTE THERE ALSO DON'T TAKE EDUCATE OUT BOTH BOTH PRESERVE PROMOTE EDUCATE AND ENHANCE SURE YES. LET'S GO. OKAY NOW MOVE FAST FOR THESE TWO THEY WERE READY. ARE WE THERE? WERE THERE OKAY.

CAN WE MOVE THAT SAVE BECAUSE HE'S MADE A LOT. YEAH HE'S GOING TO HE'S GOING TO SAVE AND THEN WE'LL MOVE THEN THE NEXT ONE LIVELY DISCUSSION VERY VERY GOOD.

LIVELY YEAH IT'S GOOD. IT'S GOOD. SO LET'S GO TO INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT'S EXPENSIVE. IT'S SIMPLEST ONES. SO INFRASTRUCTURE WAS YOU WERE

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I GOT TO REMEMBER ANYWAY. YEAH, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. I'M IN A TOWN NOT A CITY I KNOW. WELL I'LL KEEP SAYING TOWN UNTIL I'M LIKE OH I ONLY WORK FOR ONE TOWN IN MY CAREER SO OKAY APPRECIATE IT. THAT WAS THAT WAS GOOD ONE.

SO LET'S SAY THAT THE NEXT AND AFTER WE GET THESE FOCUS AREAS WE'LL TAKE A BREAK A MAYOR AT YOUR RECOGNITION PLEASE SO THAT THE NEXT ONE'S THE BIG ONE IS IS MAY RIVER AND AS ADVENTURES ADDED A FEW YEARS AGO THE TOWN ABOVE IS COMMITTED TO PROTECTING AND ENHANCING ENVIRONMENT AND MAY RIVER WE WILL IMPROVE WATER QUALITY, VIABILITY AND THE WATERSHED.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IT'S THE THE RIVERS, THE HEART. WE WILL CELEBRATE THE MAY RIVER RIGHT OUR HISTORY, CULTURE AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE ENVIRONMENT IS PROTECTED MAKE SURE IT'S PROTECTED FOR FUTURE GENERATION. IT'S THE FIRST GUIDING PRINCIPLE UNDER THIS ONE IS SUPPORT INITIATIVES SUCH AS MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN APPROVED WATER QUALITY GUIDING PRINCIPLE TWO IS SEEK COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE AGAIN THIS IS A REGIONAL ISSUE IT'S NOT JUST YOU KNOW THAT THAT IT'S NOT JUST BLUFFTON AND IMPROVE THE THE MAY AND THE OTHER NEW RIVERS AND OTHER WATERSHEDS CELEBRATE IT'S IMPORTANT TO CELEBRATE RIVER AND ITS HERITAGE AND THEN FOR SUPPORT ACTIVE PLANNING MANAGEMENT AND FOR RESILIENCY OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES AND YOU KNOW AND LOOK

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BUT WHAT ABOUT THE QUALITY? I MEAN HOW MUCH INPUT DO WE HAVE IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF THE COLLEGE AND AND THE OKATIE ALMOST TO THE SAME YOU'RE LIKE OH I WONDER WHAT THEY'RE ALL YOU KNOW LOOK AT DEREK AND TRACY BECAUSE SHE'S GOING TO TELL YOU IF WE'RE NOT TALKING LOUD ENOUGH THE HEADWATERS ARE CONSIDERED THE OKATIE YOU KNOW UP WHERE THE KING ESTATE PROPERTY AND ALL THAT EVEN WILLOW RUN AND YEAH EVEN WILLOW RUN RIGHT BUT THE CARLTON OFF FROM THAT CLOSER TO THE BORDER SOUND THAN THE OKATIE YOU KNOW SO IF I CAN ADD INTO IT THE AREA WE'RE SITTING IN RIGHT NOW IS PART OF THE CARLTON.

SO FROM ABOUT HERE NORTH THAT ALL CONTRIBUTES TO THE CARLTON THE BUCKWALTER PLACE BOEHNER PARK THAT'S THE HEADWATERS OF THE WHICH THEN CONTRIBUTES TO THE CARLTON SO EVERYTHING NORTH OF THE MAY RIVER EVENTUALLY UP IN THE COLD SO THE OKATIE AREA A LOT OF THAT AREA IS NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS BLUFFTON MORE OF IT WILL BE IN HARTSVILLE JURISDICTION AND BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE THE OKATIE NORTH ALL FROM SUN CITY. THAT AREA COMES DOWN AND MOVES IN EVERYTHING IN OKATIE SOUTH BUCKWALTER AREA UP AND AROUND TO THE OKATIE ALL SWINGS AROUND THE CARLTON AND THEN OUT I MEAN I ONLY BRING IT UP FOR THE OBVIOUS REASON THAT WE CAN'T WE CAN TRY TO KEEP OUR WATER QUALITY AS BEST WE CAN BUT A LOT OF IT LIES OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF DOING THROUGH OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

RIGHT? OKAY. RIGHT.

WE STILL HAVE TO DO OUR PART RIGHT AND WORK WITH THEM ON IS THAT WHAT IT'S OKATIE SLASH CARLTON BECAUSE YOU'RE KIND OF ONE IN THE SAME BUT WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE BOTH, RIGHT? THE OKATIE THIS IS BASICALLY THE HEADWATERS OF THE COLLETON YOU KNOW THE PROBLEM THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO IS THE WATER IS NOT AS DEEP AND IT KIND OF IT DEAD ENDS YOU KNOW JUST LIKE THE HEAD OF THE HEADWATERS OF THE RIVER AND WHEN IF WE TALK ABOUT IMPAIRMENTS THE OKATIE A TIM DEAL WHICH IS A TOTAL DAILY MAXIMUM LOAD DON'T GET TOO TECHNICAL ABOUT THAT BEFORE IT HAS AN IMPAIRMENT ON IT RIGHT NOW THE OKATIE DOES BUT THE CARLTON DOES NOT SO THAT'S WHAT WE KIND OF SPLIT SPLIT THAT OFF SO WE SPEND TIME IN THE OAK OKAY HERE AND AND TO GO IN TO WHAT COUNCILMAN WOOD WAS KIND OF ANSWERING OR I THINK ASKING ABOUT WHEN LOOK AT ONE AND TWO IT DOES USE WORDS LIKE SUPPORT INITIATIVES.

IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THEY ALL HAVE TO BE OURS THAT AND THEN WHEN IT COMES SEEK COLLABORATION PARTNERSHIP THAT CAN BE LIKE THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE THAT WE GOT THE COUNTY US THAT WE JOINTLY ADOPTED. SO I THINK IT COVERS WHAT WE CAN ADDRESS AND ALSO WORKING WITH OTHERS ON AREAS WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THROUGH SO LOGO THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH AND AND WORK WITH.

YES. AND ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE NEW RIVER ACTUALLY SEPARATES COUNTY FROM JASPER. SO ALL THE STORMWATER FROM GOES INTO THE NEW RIVER COMING FROM BLUFFTON COUNTY AND JASPER COUNTY EVERYTHING ON THE WEST

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YEAH. YES OKAY TEN AFTER WELL THERE'S A THERE'S A JOKE IT'S JUST IT'S ALL IT'S ALL OH THIS IS GOOD. LET'S HAVE A GROUP HUG. I LOVE THE TOWN OF BUFFALO IS COMMITTED TO IMPROVE IMPROVING QUALITY OF OUR FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY BY HELPING DEVELOP AND ASSISTANT LOW AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REGIONAL LEADER WILL MAXIMIZE THIS STRATEGIC PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP SO YOU ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW THE REGIONAL ASPECTS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THE FIRST FOCUS HERE DEALS WITH PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS TO DESIGN AND HELP YOU DEVELOP DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS . THE SECOND IS TO ENHANCE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH REGIONAL PARTNERS BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR LOCAL PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS BUT ALSO HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THIS AS A REGIONAL ISSUE.

AND THEN ON THIS THIRD ONE WE WERE ALL SCRATCHING OUR HEADS YESTERDAY EVEN THOUGH WE WHEN THE STAFF WAS ASKING BILL AND I AND WE WERE EVEN TRYING TO REMEMBER AND THIS WAS ADDED AND THE ENHANCED SAFETY BUSINESS PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS AND INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS AND ENSURE A SAFE COMMUNITY WHICH IS ALSO MENTIONED UNDER OUR COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE AND SO DIDN'T KNOW WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE WE WANT TO COME BACK TO THAT ONE ESTABLISH EASILY YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUR ORDINANCE AND POLICIES HELP TO PROMOTE THE EASE OF OF A LET ME LET ME JUMP IN ON THIS ONE. SO WHAT WE WERE SUGGESTING IS THAT WE WHAT WAS WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT PLAN WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AND STRICKEN AND REPLACE IT WITH THE NEW GUIDING PRINCIPLE THREE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION YESTERDAY WE WERE LIKE YOU SAID WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND WE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WHEN IT WAS TALKING ABOUT PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO HAS BEEN MAKING OUR PROCESSES EASIER TO NAVIGATE AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT CITIES ALL CITIZENS WHEN THEY COME IN THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE AND WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM SO THAT IF THEY ARE TRYING TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR THEY'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT KEEPS THEM IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE'RE TRYING FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S WHERE Y'ALL WERE GOING WITH THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE THIS LANGUAGE CAME FROM. I DEFINITELY THINK THAT ONE MAKES MAKES WAY MORE SENSE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY ONE SEEMS LIKE AN OUTLIER IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOUSING. YEAH, YEAH. I DON'T KNOW.

I DIDN'T I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THAT WELL BUT GO UP TO THE TOP IT TALKS ABOUT SAY I HAD IT ON MY NOTES WHEN YOU FINISH IT IN SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO WHO CAN DO ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD BE SAFE WE SHOULDN'T LIKE OH WELL WE CAN'T HELP YOU THERE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT WAS ON MY LIST WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUT IF YOU WANT TO FINISH UP I HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS ON THIS. OKAY.

AND SO THE AS BILL MENTIONED, THERE WAS AND STEPHEN THERE WAS A SUBSTITUTE IN TERMS OF PRINCIPLE THREE FOUR IS LOOKING AT STATE AND FEDERAL ASSISTANCE FIVE IS LEVERAGE TOWNS POSITION TO SEEK AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH EACH NEW DEVELOPMENT SO WHEN NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE TOWN WILL POSITION ITSELF TO SEE IF IF A PORTION OR ALL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN BE AFFORDABLE. BACK TO YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL I LIKE I'VE GOT TO GIVE THAT UP MAN SO I HAVE THIS CUP IN FRONT OF ME CALLED SAVE THE SHELTER.

I MEAN SAVE THE SHUTTERS WE DON'T TALK ABOUT NONPROFITS. WE DON'T TALK ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT THIS FELLOW RIGHT HERE SPEARHEADED.

I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS HOW WE CAN HAND HOLLYWOOD NONPROFITS AND ALSO PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO NOT HAVE HURDLES AND IT'S NO NO FAULT.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT. THERE ARE HURDLES WE'RE TRYING

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YES IT TAKES JUST TO SAY RIGHT. YEAH IT'S JUST ALL THAT SHE JUST SAID SO TAKE FAST FROM THIS OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE AS WELL YEAH PORTABLE AND OR I THINK THAT WAS A KEEPER FROM A PREVIOUS EDITION WHEN WE WHEN WE WENT I THINK WE STARTED THIS A NUMBER YEARS AGO JUST AS AFFORDABLE AND THEN WHEN WE CAME BACK WE ADDED THIS WORK I, I GOT AN EXTRA SO I THINK WE GOT AN EXTRA I THINK THE WORDING IN THERE IS EXTRA SO IF WE IT SO THE MAYOR WOULD NEVER SAY THE MAYOR WOULD NEVER SAY CITY AND I WOULD NEVER SAY WORK FOR WORKFORCE THAT'S YEAH OKAY BUT I'M GLAD YOU HAVE AFFORDABLE FIRST RIGHT SO IN NEIGHBORHOODS I MEAN I THINK IF THAT AND TAKE THAT PART OUT TO BE THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY OR JUST LEAVE IT WE ONE TOWN THROUGHOUT THE IN THE TOWN AGAIN BECAUSE WHERE OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN SO IT NEEDS TO BE AND EVEN WITHIN SOME YOU KNOW I'M TALKING ABOUT WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITHIN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO I REALLY I REALLY TO IMPRESS UPON THE NONPROFIT HELP AND I KNOW THAT'S THE PRIVATE IN BUT I'M SEEING THROUGH OUR TALK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PEOPLE ARE NOW SAYING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGAIN IS NICE.

YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE FOCUSED ON A SUBSET WHICH IS WORKFORCE THAT IS A SUBSET OF AFFORDABLE BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WE'RE READY TO PROFIT I MEAN TO PARTNER WITH THE SAVE THE SHUTTERS AND OTHERS AND WE ALSO HAVE A GROUP STARTED WHICH I'M THRILLED TO BE ON THE BOARD AND CARL KEITH IS A PROGRAM DIRECTOR OF A GROUP IS STARTING ON HILTON HEAD TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING AND BUY UNITS AND THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE IN TO BLUFFTON SO HOW CAN OUR PROCEDURES AND POLICIES MAKE THIS EASIER? ALL EVERYTHING SHOULD BE EASY IN THIS TOWN. BUT HOW CAN WE SAY WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS FOR OTHERS THAT CAN GIVE US GUIDANCE AND HELP BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD THAT DON'T THINK GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS AT ALL RIGHT SO HOW DO WE HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY SIDED WE NEED HELP AND THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM RAISING MONEY THEY JUST

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I MEAN IT I THINK WE SHOULD ADDRESS IT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GETTING IN THE WEEDS OR IF IT'S I THINK IT'S TOO DETAILED. SO I ADDED THE WORD NONPROFIT SO WE ABOUT ENHANCING WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH NONPROFITS AND REGIONAL PARTNERS IT SAYS IT ALL AND THE FIRST ONE ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT PRIVATE SO IF IT IS A PRIVATE GROUP THAT'S LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING WE THOSE AS WELL SO WE KIND OF PICK UP PRIVATE NONPROFIT IN REGIONAL BUT GUIDING PRINCIPLES ARE THEY THEY'RE BROUGHT I MEAN I AGREE I THINK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE IS THE BEST AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOOL TOOL WE'VE EVER ANYBODY'S EVER USED I DON'T WANT TO LIGHTEN IT SHOULD IT BE AND THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT'S TODAY YEAH.

TOMORROW THERE MAY BE EVEN A BETTER PROGRAM WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT YET SO WE DON'T WANT TO CALL IT OUT, SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT PROGRAMS THEN CURRENT PROGRAMS CARMELITA IS THE KEY AKALI SAID SUPPORTING SUPPORTIVE OF OTHER ARE ALL HOUSING PROGRAMS SOMEWHERE IN THERE AND NOT BIG ENOUGH ATTENTION IS ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND WHAT VICKI AND I DON'T SEE VICKI BUT WHAT VICKI HAS DONE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS WITH THAT AND NOBODY THAT WE'VE DONE MORE THAN JUST WALL STREET WHAT WAS THAT WHAT WAS THAT LANGUAGE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM SUPPORTING SUPPORTIVE OF SUPPORTIVE OF HOUSING AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

I GOTCHA. OKAY AND AT THAT WITH THAT HOUSING OF SUPPORTIVE OF HOUSING SUPPORTIVE OF OF ARE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ARE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SO THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD I GOT YOU.

SO FOR EVERYONE WHO'S LISTENING THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAMS ARE CURRENT INITIATIVES IN FUTURE AND WE ARE SAYING IS IT THAT'S A THAT'S KIND OF A OR ECONOMIC GARDENING OR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAMS RIGHT I THINK MIGHT WHAT MIGHT HELP ALSO IS THAT ON THAT THE VERY LAST SENTENCE IT SAYS FOR MEETING COMMUNITY'S CURRENT AND FUTURE HOUSING NEEDS I THINK THAT KIND OF HELPS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS YES BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO KEEP THE PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES SO CURRENT HOUSING NEEDS AS WELL.

SO WHAT THIS HAS BEEN THE CHANGE THE GENERAL CHANGE IN THAT'S GREAT AND THEN WE ADDED NONPROFITS TO GUIDING PRINCIPLE TWO STRUCK STRUCK OUT THE BAD LANGUAGE AND GUIDING PRINCIPLE THREE AND PUT THIS NEWER GUIDING PRINCIPLE THREE AND AND MAYOR TO GO BACK TO SOME OF THE TOPICS WERE BRINGING UP ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM EARLIER IS WHEN YOU GET INTO THE ACTUAL AGENDA THE ACTION ITEMS YOU'LL SEE THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY GOT STUFF IN THERE ABOUT LOOKING POTENTIALLY AMEND TO PROVE THAT SO I THINK AS WE TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC PROGRAMS THAT WE DO THEY NEED TO BE MORE IN THE ACTION ITEM VERSUS HERE CARLITO WAS SAYING IDENTIFY THE BROAD OF IT AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO THE SPECIFICS IN THE ACTUAL ACTION ITEMS ON THAT WITH IT FOR YOU ALL THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE GRANTS FINE HE SAID 1830 PICK FROM THE COUNCIL MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER SO THAT IS YOUR FINAL FOCUS AREA AND I THINK AT THIS POINT WE CAN MAYOR WITH YOUR RECOGNITION WE CAN WE CAN TAKE BREAK AND GREAT SO WE ARE I JUST WANT FOR WHOEVER IS OUT THERE LOOKING WE JUST BROADLY WENT OVER OUR PRIORITIES BUT THEN DOWN IN NUMBER SEVEN IS OUR ACTUAL ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO FIT INTO THIS WHERE YOU KNOW IF ANYONE NEEDS TO LEAVE AND THAT'S IMPORTANT I WOULD SAY THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO ISH IF WE'RE PLANNING TO BE FINISHED

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DO YOU I WANT TO HOW LONG OF A RIGHT DO YOU WANT ARE WE ON TRACK 11 OR IS 1130 LAUNCH? YES. AND AS I SAY, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 15 MINUTES AHEAD OF WHERE WE WERE ANTICIPATING BEFORE LUNCH. SO WE WE'VE WE'VE GONE QUICKER.

LET'S DO 15. LISTEN, ANYONE HERE IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS AND YOU GOT GO GIVE IT TO ONE OF US AND WE'LL WE'LL ASK AMY THEN WHILE WE'RE TAKING A BREAK FOR PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE ANYTHING WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON COURTNEY MAKE YOUR NEIGHBOR TRYING UP TO SAY WHO HE IS. OH, I THINK ON THE BIGGEST THANK YOU OKAY COURTNEY WHAT DO YOU HAVE AND TALK LOUD BECAUSE AFTER FRANKLY IT WAS FOR JUST WHAT WE THANK YOU COURTNEY THANK YOU COURTNEY AS WELL WE KEEP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW NOT TO SAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE TRYING TO SATISFY THAT NIGHT IN MY BACK YARD AND LONG AS WE KEEP SATISFYING THOSE PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO LOSE FOCUS SO WE IT THOSE TWO IS TOO IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP TRYING TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE THAT WE EITHER WE BUY INTO IT OR WE DON'T THAT'S THAT'S PURPOSE.

THANK YOU, COURTNEY. COURTNEY ASKED SHE'S WITH BLUFFTON SELF-HELP I'M JUST DOING THIS FOR THE RECORDING THE WORDING OF AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE WE'RE TAKING A BREAK.

I THINK THERE ARE GROUPS THAT ONLY WANT DO WORKFORCE AND WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT TOO. I THINK WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ANYMORE IS ATTAINABLE AND WE DON'T TALK ABOUT ANYMORE. WE I MEAN PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE.

YEAH IT IS THE WORD OF THE DAY SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE WANTS TO SAY IT.

WE'RE TAKING A 15 MINUTE BREAK. IS ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SAY WHAT? OH NO BUT ARE WE READY? I THINK SO FRED DO YOU NEED A SCOOT? OH, OKAY. INTRODUCE YOURSELF. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, VERNA. THANK NO THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THE INVITATION AND I ALSO HAVE SARAH LINCOLN BEAR WITH ME. SHE IS A DEPUTY MANAGER AND I AM THE GENERAL MANAGER OF BEAUFORT WATER AND SEWER AND I WAS SITTING I REALLY APPRECIATE BEING INVITED TO THIS. IT'S IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THE CONVERSATION AND WHAT ALL YOUR PLANS ARE WE DO HAVE OUR BOARD RETREAT TOMORROW SO IT'S KIND OF GETS ME IN THE MOOD FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING BUT I WAS SITTING THINKING AS ALL THE DISCUSSION WAS GOING ON THAT I ROLLED INTO TOWN SIX MONTHS AND TWO DAYS AGO LITERALLY I ROLLED IN ON APRIL 30TH AND STARTED MY NEW JOB ON MAY 1ST AND I ROLLED INTO THIS TOWN.

I ACTUALLY STAYED AS A COUPLE OF STREETS OVER FOR A TIME PERIOD LOVE LOVE IT LOVE IT HERE BLUFFTON AND ALL THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE JUST AMAZING. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT SO IN MY SHORT TIME HERE I'VE LEARNED A LOT I'M AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID I BET YOU'RE DRINKING FROM A FIRE HOSE. I THINK THAT'S BEEN AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

BUT I'M GLAD TO BE HERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF GO OVER A HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF WCA AND SOME OF THIS IS MY WHAT I'VE LEARNED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE ANY TIME WHAT ARE UTILITIES AND UTILITY FORMATION REALLY KIND OF FASCINATES ME BECAUSE IT SPEAKS TO HOW COMMUNITIES DEVELOP BECAUSE THEY ARE SO DEPENDENT ON A SAFE WATER AND HAVING YOU KNOW, WASTEWATER FACILITIES AND SANITATION TO HAVE A SAFE COMMUNITY. SO I WAS INTERESTED IN HOW B.J.

WCA STARTED AND I JUST THOUGHT I'D PRESENT A TIMELINE IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW OR OR IF YOU DO IT'S YOU KNOW, A NICE REVIEW. SO THE AUTHORITY WAS CREATED IN 1954 BY THE SOUTH CAROLINA LEGISLATURE. THE FIRST WATER TREATMENT PLANT WAS THE PLANT AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS, IT'S OVER ON OFF OF SNAKE ROAD AT 170 REALLY RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF OUR SERVICE AREA. IT'S A GREAT LOCATION AND I THINK WHAT'S FASCINATING TO ME I'M A WATER PERSON I'M FROM I WORKED FOR CINCINNATI WATERWORKS FOR 22 YEARS AND THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT A WATER SYSTEM AND ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS ARE SEVERAL HERE IS THAT 18 MILE CANAL THAT TAKES WATER THE SAVANNAH RIVER OVER TO THE

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IT'S AMAZING TO ME ACTUALLY HOW BIG THE SERVICE IS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT TO COVER .

IT'S TAKES A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AS YOU TO PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER TO THESE AREAS WE SERVE FOUR MUNICIPALITIES BLUFFTON OBVIOUSLY BEAUFORT HEART ONE PORT ROYAL AND WE HAVE 65,000 WATER CONNECTIONS AND A 46,000 SEWER CONNECTIONS.

WE ALSO HAVE SEVEN WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS AND PROVIDE WATER TO THE MILITARY BASES NORTH.

SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR WATER SYSTEM. THE PRIMARY WATER SOURCE AS I SAID BEFORE IS THE SAVANNAH RIVER THAT ACTUALLY SERVES BOTH PLANTS.

WE HAVE THE CHELSEA PLANT THAT GETS SERVED THROUGH THE 18 MILE LONG CANAL AND THEN THE PERRYSBURG PLANT DRAWS WATER DIRECTLY FROM THE SAVANNAH RIVER.

OUR TOTAL TREATMENT CAPACITY TODAY IS 39 MGD PERRYSBURG THAT WAS BUILT IN 2004 ADDED 15 MGD TO THE ORIGINAL 24 THAT WAS AT CHELSEA AND THEN OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM A LOT OF WATER LINE COVERING THE HUNDRED 50 SQUARE MILES 1500 MILES TEN BOOSTER STATIONS OBVIOUSLY HYDRANTS AND VALVES ARE OUR MAJOR PARTS OF OUR SYSTEM ALSO OUR WASTEWATER PLANT CAPACITY IS TEN AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS. WE HAVE EIGHT TREATMENT PLANTS . WE HAVE TWO MAY ACTUALLY THREE MAJOR PLANTS AND THAT WOULD BE THE HARDY VILLAGE CHERRY POINT AND THEN THE PORT ROYAL MORE THAN A THOUSAND MILES OF SEWER PIPE AND LOT OF LIVE STATIONS HERE WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT AMAZED ME.

I COME FROM A VERY HILLY TERRAIN AND WHEN I GOT HERE AND FOUND OUT THERE WERE 530 PUMP STATIONS I COULD NOT BELIEVE THAT. BUT THERE'S OBVIOUS REASONS THOSE WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY AND THE GROUNDWATER TABLE HERE WHY THERE ARE SO MANY.

SO WATER IS EASY. SEWER IS A CHALLENGE JUST FROM THE TOPOGRAPHY AND THE FROM THE

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IT'S BASICALLY A NATURE THAT'S SPED UP IS HOW I ENVISION WASTEWATER PLANTS.

THE PROCESSES THAT WE USE ARE JUST A REPLICATION OF WHAT NATURE USES AND WE JUST PROVIDE A WAYS TO SPEED THAT PROCESS UP SO THAT WE CAN TREAT THE WATER AND THEN DISCHARGE IT BACK INTO THE ENVIRONMENT IN IN THE IN A PRISTINE MANNER BASICALLY THE WAY IT ORIGINALLY WAS WE USE THE BIOLOGICAL TREATMENT, WE USE NATURE LIKE I SAID TO THAT WE ALSO DISINFECT THE WATER BEFORE WE RELEASE BACK TO THE ENVIRONMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO DISEASE CAUSING ORGANISMS IN THE WATER AND WE DO THAT WITH ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT OR WE MAY USE A FORM OF CHLORINE TO DO THAT. WE ALSO SUSTAINABLE IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US SO WE DO INCORPORATE SOLAR ARRAYS AT OUR TREATMENT PLANTS AND WE GENERATE MORE THAN 1200 MEGAWATTS OF ENERGY ANNUALLY TO REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT. SO PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE TODAY OUR STRATEGIC JUST TO GIVE YOU A VERY HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF WHAT B.J HAS DONE WE OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE QUALITY WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES TO OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE CUSTOMERS OF THE LOWCOUNTRY. THE THEMES OF I DON'T THINK ARE GOING TO SURPRISE ANYONE WORKFORCE OBVIOUSLY A BIG ISSUE FOR ALL OF US AS I TO THE ISSUES WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING YOU KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT INTERESTED IN TOO BECAUSE OUR WORKFORCE AS WITH ALL OF OURS WE NEED TO HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY TO DRAW PEOPLE TO THIS AREA TO WORK THAT THEY CAN LIVE IN INFRASTRUCTURE VIABILITY WE ARE AS I WHENEVER ALL OF OUR INS WE'RE CONTINUALLY PUTTING MORE IN AND WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF WHAT WHAT WE HAVE. I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER HAVING PROGRAMS IN PLACE TO MAINTAIN THOSE ASSETS IN OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS ALL ABOUT MINIMIZING THAT LIFE CYCLE COST FROM THE TIME THAT WE PUT IT IN TILL THE TIME THAT WE RETIRE THAT ASSET ARE WE REALLY MINIMIZING THE COST OF OWNING IT AND OF COURSE THAT LEADS INTO OUR FINANCIAL AND MAKING SURE THAT NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER SERVICES THEY HAVE BE AFFORDABLE OR ELSE IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYONE ANY GOOD IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US IN OUR RATE SETTING ENGAGING CUSTOMERS AND STAKEHOLDERS, YOU KNOW, VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

IN FACT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS POSITION TO REALLY INCREASE OUR COLLABORATION AND OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY OBVIOUSLY SO IMPORTANT TO US THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TO SERVE AND MANAGE RISK AND LEVERAGE INNOVATION OF COURSE RISK IS SYNONYMOUS WITH COST AND I MEAN THE ORIGINAL COMMENT THAT STARTED THIS WAS IF WE HAD ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD AS AS WAS MENTIONED. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WAYS WE CAN MANAGE OUR RISK AND STILL, YOU KNOW, BE INNOVATIVE, CREATIVE IN HOW WE'RE SOLVING SOLVING OUR PROBLEMS. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GO OVER YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH WITH OUR PLANNING WE DO INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS A HOT TOPIC THAT'S WHAT WE GET ASKED ABOUT A WE DO A MASTER PLAN SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU ALL DO. WE UPDATED OUR EVERY FIVE YEARS THAT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT NOW I THINK ACTUALLY WE UPDATED IT IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING SO QUICKLY HERE. THE OTHER THING THAT WASN'T MENTIONED EARLIER IS THE YOU KNOW BETWEEN 2021 AND NOW THE WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE SCENE HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY WITH SUPPLY CHAIN OUR COST HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ROOF WE'VE REALLY HAD A LOT OF SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES IN THE COST OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT VERY CLOSELY AND LIKE I SAID WE JUST RE UPDATED OUR PLAN THAN WE THOUGHT BECAUSE WE JUST FINISHED IT IN 2022 AND THAT ONE WAS A 20 YEAR OUTLOOK AND

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SO IT'S IT'S SUBSTANTIAL AND THERE'S A LOT OF OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF GROWTH GOING ON THAT THAT THIS IS GOING TOWARDS IT'S ALSO GOING TOWARDS CURRENT ASSETS KEEP PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL MAY BE INTERESTED IN THE PERRYSBURG WATER PLANT EXPANSION THAT'S BEING DONE TO ADDRESS THE GROWTH IN THIS AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL DOUBLE THE CAPACITY OF THAT PLANT. THAT PLANT IS ALSO WHAT'S REALLY NICE ABOUT THAT PLANT WAS IT SET UP IN A VERY MODULAR FASHION SO THE NEXT EXPANSION TO 45 MGD ALSO COULD BE KICKED OFF SHOULD GROWTH EXPAND QUICKER THAN WHAT'S ANTICIPATED THERE'S A NEW ONE AND A HALF MILLION GALLON ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THAT'S GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED OFF OF BUCKWALTER THAT IS THAT PROPERTY'S BEEN PURCHASED WE'RE CURRENTLY IN PLANS CONSTRUCTION IT CAN START CONSTRUCTION SHOULD START NEXT YEAR THE CHERRY POINT WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY WHICH WHICH SERVES THE BLUFFTON AREA WILL BE EXPANDED. THAT PROJECT IS IN DESIGN AND I THINK THAT ONE IS SCHEDULED TO BE ONLINE IN 2627 TIMEFRAME AND THEN AS AS HEATHER HAD BROUGHT UP EARLIER THE STONEY CREEK PROJECT I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT OUR BOARD APPROVED THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT AND I HAVE SIGNED THAT SO BIG THUMBS UP FOR THAT THAT'S ON ITS WAY AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING ON PROJECT AND GETTING A SEWER SYSTEM INSTALLED THAT AREA AND ALSO PROVIDING WATER SERVICE. SO WITH THAT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN AND I'D BE GLAD TO DO THAT QUESTIONS. BRIDGET I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO DEFINITELY GRAVE CONCERN. SO YOU MENTIONED I KNOW YOUR FEES AS YOU SAID HAVE HAVE INCREASED IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, YOUR PROJECT NEEDS AND OTHER THINGS COMING UP.

ONE THING THAT WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH HERE THERE ARE A LOT OF RESIDENTS PARTICULARLY NATIVE RESIDENTS AND RESIDENTS UNDER CERTAIN INCOME THRESHOLD THAT STRUGGLE WITH THAT IMPACT AND I KNOW IT'S A BLANKETED FEE PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE IT WHAT CONSIDERATIONS ARE YOU ALL OF OR COULD BE GIVEN TO THOSE RESIDENTS BECAUSE I KNOW FINANCIALLY IT HAS REALLY BECOME A BURDEN AND AN IMPEDIMENT TO SOME WHO JUST CANNOT AFFORD THAT THAT THAT IMPACT THAT SEWER CONNECTION OR IMPACT FEE. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THANKS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PROGRAM THAT FUND WILL FUND INCOME QUALIFIED CUSTOMERS WHO WANT TO CONNECT SO THAT WE CAN COVER THOSE COSTS OR ASSIST WITH COVERING THOSE COSTS. AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY OF THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM.

DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THAT ONE? YEAH, IT'S PART OF THAT COLEMAN PROGRAM AND SO THAT IS INCOME BASED. I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM CALLED THE HARDSHIP WHICH IT'S SOMETHING EITHER SHE HAS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE NEED TO RECORD IT, MAYBE COME UP TO DETAINEES TO START OVER. YEAH.

YES. BUT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO REPEAT SO HAVE THE THAD COLEMAN PROGRAM WHICH IS INCOME BASED THAT HELPS WITH THOSE IMPACT FEES AND CONNECTIONS.

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I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. AND NOW YOU HAVE A THRESHOLD IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW MUCH OR HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO BE IMPACTED THROUGH THOSE FUNDS EACH YEAR LIKE IS THERE A CUTOFF NOW WHATEVER THE FUNDS ARE THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND OF THOSE ARE VERY HEALTHY ACCOUNTS SO NO THERE NO THRESHOLD OR CUTOFF WE'D RATHER THAN BE UTILIZED SET AND NOT BE UTILIZED SAY AND THEY JUST CONTACT CUSTOMERS AND ASK FOR THOSE TWO.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THOSE PROGRAMS ARE ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE TOO. GOOD.

WE'LL GET THE LINK TO THAT ANY THOUGHT ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS.

MR. TAYMOR, YOU'RE YOU WERE SHOWING YOUR CAPACITIES ON YOUR YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. WHERE ARE YOU? I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER 46 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. OH, I KNOW TWO BUT AT WHAT LEVEL ARE YOU ARE AT THIS POINT YOU KNOW WHAT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT CAPABILITIES YOU HAVE ARE YOU 75% OR 50? RIGHT. IT DEPENDS ON SO OUR TREATMENT PLANTS SERVE DIFFERENT BASINS SO DEPENDS ON WHAT BASIN YOU'RE WE'RE IN LIKE THE PORT PLANT THERE PROBABLY HAS ABOUT 50% OF THE CAPACITY LEFT AS AN EXAMPLE BUT THE CHERRY POINT PLANT WHICH IS THE ONE THAT IS UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW FOR EXPANSION WE'RE PROBABLY AT A 80% I THINK IT'S AT 80%.

BASICALLY THOSE ARE BEING WATCHED BY HECK WHO ONCE YOU HIT CERTAIN LEVEL IT TRIGGERS YOU TO START DESIGN AND THAT PROJECT FORWARD. SO IN MOST OF THE SEWER AND STUFF FROM BLUFFTON WOULD GO TO CHERRY POINT. YES RIGHT RIGHT YEAH THAT A LOT OF YEAH AND THEN BILL AREA SERVED BY THE HARDY WELL PLANT IN PORT ROYAL SERVES NORTHERN COUNTY THAT'S ALL I HAVE THANK YOU QUESTION MR. WOOD OR MR. HAMILTON I'LL JUST GO DOWN AS YOU HEARD WE ARE TRYING TO PARTNER WITH SOME PRIVATE SECTORS TO HELP AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IS THERE ANY THAT WOULD SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS BECAUSE I HEARD YOU SAID INCOME ON ON THE GRANT THAT YOU HAD THE COLEMAN FUND.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH TO HELP BRING THE COST DOWN FOR DEVELOPERS TO MAKE HOMES AFFORDABLE RENT I THINK THE THE THAD COLEMAN FUND WOULD ALLOW INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS WOULD QUALIFY FOR THAT. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROGRAM THEM FOR DEVELOPERS BUT IF THERE IS A HOMEOWNER OR IF THE HOME I THINK THE HOME WERE DESIGNATED AS LOW INCOME WE MAY BE ABLE TO YES DO SOMETHING I KNOW IT IS OUR BOARD IS LOOKING AT AND HAS HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE. THERE ARE AS YOU KNOW IT'S A BIG TOPIC RIGHT NOW SO. IT'S A DEFINITELY UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH OUR BOARD AND BEEN TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS ON MY LIST TOMORROW AT MY BOARD RETREAT. SO JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP WITH THAT I KNOW I'M NOT PART OF PDVSA BUT IT CAME A LOT IN OUR DISCUSSION WITH STONY CREEK WITH A LOT OF YOU KNOW WE TALKED THROUGH A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE WHERE WE CAN FORGIVE FEES, WE CAN FOR THE CAPACITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE DO FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THEM BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING ARE IN PLACES WHEN THE FEES GET AS HIGH AS THEY ARE WE'VE TO COME UP WITH THOSE FUNDS TO MAKE IT REALLY NOT IMPACT THE HOMEOWNERS A LOT.

SO WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AS PART OF STONY CREEK AND I HOPE WE'LL CONTINUE THAT AND THIS MAY I THINK THE POINT'S BEEN MADE WE UNDERSTAND IMPACT FEES WE AGONIZED OVER THOSE

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WE'RE ALWAYS ASKED IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT NEEDS OF THE GROWTH? AND YOU MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO I THINK HECK WHEN YOU WERE I THINK IT'S 70% IS IT WHEN YOU HIT A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT YOUR MANDATE TO UPGRADE YOUR FACILITIES CAPACITY WISE? RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO BASED ON THAT I GET ASKED WELL WE ALL GET ASKED THAT QUESTION. SO ARE YOU ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE CAPACITY OF THE AREA BETWEEN HARDY VILLE AND WE'LL HAVE TO, YES.

THAT'S WHY WE THAT'S WHY THE CHERRY POINT PLANT IS UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW FOR EXPANSION.

IN FACT WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY ONCE THAT GETS CONSTRUCTED DEPENDING ON THE FLOW RATES WE MAY BE WE MAY BE RIGHT BACK INTO ANOTHER EXPANSION.

SO WE'RE WATCHING IT VERY CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY OF AVAILABLE TO SERVE THOSE THOSE AND YOU KNOW, TO POINT AND I KNOW I'M FROM THE ELECTRIC UTILITY INDUSTRY I KNOW THAT THEY ARE FORWARD LOOKING AND HAVE TO BE JUST LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE USUALLY AT LEAST 20 YEARS OUT. ALL THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THE MUNICIPALITIES I'M ASSUMING I'M HARDY VILLE SIMILAR NATURE TO US YOU HAVE TO SIGN OFF YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU HAVE SIGN OFF TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW ON THE LETTERS IN THE PACKAGE FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SERVE. SO THAT IS ONE REASON I HAVEN'T PANICKED BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT IF PEOPLE ARE SIGNING OFF THAT IF THEY COULDN'T THEY WOULD SAY SO. SO ANYWAY I JUST BRING THIS UP BECAUSE WE DO REPEATEDLY GET ASKED THESE QUESTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER.

THANK YOU. CAN I ASK FIRST? OKAY AND THEN I KNOW WE HAVE ONE IN THE AUDIENCE SO I WANT TO GO ON ME FROM MY NOTES WHAT DAN SAID YOU KNOW OUR NO ONE WANTS TO TAKE TIME TO LEARN ABOUT WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. THEY JUST LIKE TO COMPLAIN SO WHEN THE WATER LINES WERE BEING PUT DOWN MY RIVER ROAD WE GOT CALLS BEFORE JASPER WATER SAYS I CAN'T MANAGE THE GROWTH AND THEN IT FALLS BACK ON US. BUT YOU DID INDEED NOT YOU BUT YOU DID INDEED SIGN A LETTER DEAR IN DEVELOPMENT THAT SAID WE CAN WE CAN DO THIS.

I GUESS I'M KIND SPEAKING FOR MY INNER MAYOR WILLIAMS BECAUSE WE ALL WOULD TO SEE MORE COMMERCIAL GROWTH TOO TO ADAPT THE NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR PEOPLE MOVE IN HERE AND HOW CAN YOU GIVE US TO SAY THEY'RE STRUGGLING SO EITHER CUT YOUR DENSITY OR MAYBE I DON'T KNOW I GUESS WE ALL NEED BE PARTNERS IN THIS WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME WAY TO SAY WELL NO YOU CAN'T BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF POWER, RUNNING OUT OF WATER. BUT IF YOU TRULY FEEL YOU'VE GOT AND YOU CAN STAY AHEAD OF IT, THEN THEN WE CAN SAY THAT TOO.

SO I THINK THAT MAYBE AS A STATEMENT YOU CAN I THINK I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THINK THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO WORK CLOSELY WITH YOU AND ACTUALLY AND I MEANT TO SAY THIS AND I FORGOT WE HIRED A CHIEF OF ENGINEERING COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.

WE'VE REALLY ELEVATED THAT WHOLE. YOU KNOW DEVELOPMENT IS SO CRITICAL HERE. WE'VE WE'RE ADDING STAFF TO DEAL WITH THE PLANNING THE PLANNING SIDE OF IT. WE ARE IN ADDITION TO THE CHIEF OF ENGINEERING WE HIRED A PRINCIPAL PLANNER AND A NEW CAPITAL PROGRAM MANAGER. SO THAT PLANNER WE'RE GOING BE DOING ADDITIONAL OUTREACH AND COLLABORATE AND AND MAKING SURE WE STAY ON TOP OF THAT AND WORKING WITH YOUR TEAM TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE SO THAT CAN AND IT MAY BE A SO LOCO MEETING WE GET ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AROUND THE TABLE AND MAYOR WILLIAMS IS THE CHAIR AND I'M GOING TO BE A CONSTITUENT OUT THERE IN JANUARY BUT ABOUT TWO OTHER THINGS I'D LOVE TO SEE YOUR TWO CFP LIST IF ON THE WEBSITE JUST LET US KNOW WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE YOU'RE JUMPING TO ONE YEAR 80 SOME MILLION BUT IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS YOU HAVE 300 AND WHATEVER AND MY LORD NO WONDER THEY IMPACT FEES.

FINALLY THE WATER TOWER WE WERE GIVEN A BEFORE YOU CAME HERE AND WERE GIVEN A LOW LOCATION

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SO THERE'S A FREE FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND AH YOU THOSE WATER LINES TO KIND OF COME UP THE POWER LINE TO HIT BLUFFTON PARKWAY AS WELL BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE THE WATER TOWER ON THE ON THE EASTERN SIDE KIND OF PLAN TOWNS AT BUCKWALTER SAID I HAD THAT BROUGHT IT TO ME YESTERDAY AND I THOUGHT WELL I'M GOING TO SEE YOU AND I'LL JUST MAKE SURE I WHAT Y'ALL ARE THINKING YEAH AND WE CAN I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT I'D HAVE TO TO ASK OUR CAPITAL PLANNING FOLKS BUT AGAIN IT GOES TO WE YOU KNOW THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS YOU SO DEFINITELY WE WILL WE WILL HAVE OUR PLANNERS INVOLVED SO AND I THINK LARRY, A QUESTION IN ONE OF OUR OUR CHAIR OF HBC HAD A QUESTION PRETTY QUICK.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN AN ELECTION CYCLE RIGHT NOW SO I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE ESPECIALLY OUT IN THE HERITAGE AT NEW RIVERSIDE AREA ABOUT CONSTANT BROWN WATER IN THEIR KITCHENS AND THEIR BATHTUBS AND YOU KNOW IT'S KIND OF WE'RE GETTING ROCKS THROWN AT US BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING UP AND THEY'RE SAYING HOW COULD YOU THEM BUILD MORE HOUSES AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE CLEAN WATER IN OUR HOUSES.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEING SAID TO US. HAS IT BEEN CORRECTED? IS IT GOING TO BE AN ONGOING THING? JUST WHERE ARE WE ON THAT TODAY? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION TO WE HAVE BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT THAT THE CAUSE OF THAT IS MINERALS ARE HAVE SETTLED OUT IN THE WATER OVER YEARS AND THEN AS YOU KNOW WATER DEMANDS INCREASE BECAUSE OF GROWTH IF THERE IS A YOU KNOW THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE SYSTEM WHETHER IT'S A MAIN BREAK OR SOMEBODY OPENS A FIRE HYDRANT THAT THEN THOSE THOSE MINERALS GET RESUSPENDED AND THAT'S HOW THEY SHOW UP IN THE WATER. PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW TO ADDRESS THAT WE'VE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY RECOMMENDED WAS IMPLEMENTING A UNIDIRECTIONAL FLUSHING PROGRAM AND WE ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH MANY OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND DOING A HIGH VELOCITY OF THE SYSTEM YOU KNOW WHERE WE VALVE THE SYSTEM AND WE OPEN HYDRANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE VELOCITY WE WANT TO RE TO SUSPEND ANYTHING THAT'S IN THERE IN BASICALLY FLUSH THE MAIN OUT AND THAT'S BEEN PROVING TO BE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IT SEEMS TO BE AND THAT'S SOMETHING VERY RECENT. WE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL OUR SUMMER DEMANDS WENT DOWN.

YOU KNOW SO WE COULD DO IT WHEN WE HAD AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF WATER.

BUT THAT SEEMS HAVE REALLY REDUCED THE ISSUES. WE ALSO PROVIDE CUSTOMERS HANDOUTS ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO . WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY HIRED AN ADDITIONAL TO HELP ADDRESS TO BE KIND OF A LIAISON WITH CUSTOMERS SO THAT THEY HAVE SOMEBODY THEY CAN CALL WE CAN CHECK BACK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN CORRECTED. WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS PROBLEM TO LET KNOW BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY CAN REALLY KNOW WHERE TO TARGET OUR RESOURCES TO FLUSH AND OUT THE SYSTEM. BUT IT'S OUR HOPE THAT BY IMPLEMENTING UNIQUE DIRECTIONAL FLUSHING PROGRAM AND THEN DOING IT NOT JUST TIME BUT DOING IT ON A PERIODIC BASIS SOME UTILITIES THAT THEY'LL THEY'LL DO 25% OF THEIR WATER SYSTEM PER YEAR.

SO DEPENDING HOW THIS GOES, YOU KNOW WE WILL BE OUT REDOING IT AT A FUTURE TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT AND MAKE SURE HOPEFULLY THAT GETS MITIGATED. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THE I KNOW YOU CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE.

IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT PERSONALLY BUT THE OTHER WAS WHEN THEY TRIED TO CALL REPEATEDLY TO SAY WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET MY WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET ME SOME CLEAR WATER INSTEAD OF JUST BROWN WATER. THEY SAID THAT LACK THE RESPONSE WAS ALMOST NON-EXISTENT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING TO ME. I DIDN'T YOU BUT AND THAT IS THAT IS ONE BIG REASON WE'VE ACTUALLY ACTUALLY I THINK THE THE PERSON IS GOING TO BE STARTING WE'VE HIRED AN ADDITIONAL PERSON TO HELP ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO HAVE THAT RESPONSE. THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.

AND I THINK GETTING ALL YOUR TOWNS AND GOVERNMENTS THAT MESSAGE IS HELPFUL BECAUSE WE

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EVERYONE'S GOING TO CARE TO READ BUT AT LEAST WE CAN SAY DID YOU NOT THE POST OR THE EMAIL KRISTY IS OUR CHAIR OF ATTACK AND SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT I SAID YOU WERE BUT YOU ARE OKAY AND A BUSINESS OWNER HERE SO SHE HAD A QUESTION OKAY .

IT GOES BACK TO YOUR QUESTION BUCKWALTER WEAR OR ALLOW TO WEAR BUCKWALTER IS IT THE THE TAG YES IT IS AT THE CORNER OF BUCKLE TO WEAR AND THE NORTHERN WEAR BLUFFTON PARKWAY GOES OFF BUCKWALTER THE NORTHERN IS BEHIND THE TOWNS AT BUCKWALTER.

OKAY SO THAT GOES THANK YOU KNOW ISN'T IT. YEAH NO THEY THEY KEPT THEY BALLED IT THERE RIGHT OR IS IT AT WILLOW RUN. YEAH YES THE BUCKWALTER TOWNS BOULEVARD WHICH INTERSECTS WITH BUCKWALTER PARKWAY ABOUT YOU KNOW 500 YARDS BACK RIGHT AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE TOWN'S BUCKWALTER DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHERE I WAS.

YES. SO IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF BUCKWALTER AND WEST SIDE AND IS ON THE EAST SIDE. YES. OKAY SO THEN THAT'S I'M ASKING SO MAYOR YOU SAID THAT WAS GOING TO BE A TOWER IS GOING TO BE A TOWER IS GOING TO BE A TANK, IT'LL BE AN ELEVATED IT BE ON THE GROUND OR BE IN THE AIR.

IT'LL BE IN THE AIR. OKAY. OKAY OKAY.

WHERE WILL BE THE PUMP I KNOW YOU COME TO THE TOWN WHEN WE THOUGHT IT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE ACTUALLY WILLOW RUN I THINK IS WHERE WE FIRST THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE.

SO I THINK JUST HER AS A CONSTITUENT I THINK IT'S GOOD TO LET US KNOW SO WE CAN GET IT OUT AND AND I DON'T I THINK YOU'RE PAST THE PUBLIC COMMENT YOU'VE ALREADY BOUGHT LAND.

RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY.

OKAY. ANYTHING FROM STAFF? ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC QUESTIONS? MAYOR WILLIAMS, DID YOU AGREE WITH MY QUESTION OR OKAY, I'M FINE. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. WE'VE WE'VE AS A TOWN HAVE ALSO INVITED VERNER TO SPEAK TO US SO WE'VE ALREADY INFORMED BUT I THINK YOUR IDEA OF BRINGING THAT BEFORE AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AT A FUTURE SO LOCAL MEETING IS A GOOD ONE YEAH AND THANK YOU I'M JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW STEVEN IS GOING TO BE AT OUR MEETING TOMORROW PRESENTING ON SOME OF THE STUFF THAT I'M SURE THAT'S HEARD TODAY.

THANK YOU. AND SARAH AND I DO HAVE TO IN ABOUT ABOUT 1215 WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING OVER ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE THE CONVERSATION. WERE YOU GOING TO THE CAP LIST ? ARE THEY ON YOUR WEBSITE? IT IS NOT. BUT I'M SURE THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WE CAN GET THAT TO GET IT TO STEPHEN. GREAT.

YOU KNOW I DID HAVE I DID HAVE A QUESTION BUT I'LL REPRESENT THE REALTORS OF THE WORLD.

IT'S HARD TO FIND WHERE WATER AND SEWER LINES ARE IN ANY PART THE REGION AND TO AND I'VE HEARD OH WE CAN'T TELL YOU BECAUSE SOMEONE MAY STEAL IT OR WHATEVER DO YOU ALL PUT YOUR YOUR WEBSITE IS LIKE OURS IT IS HARD IS THERE A PLACE TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN CLICK AND SAY THIS PROPERTY HAS WATER AND SEWER? NO, BUT THAT ACTUALLY IS AN INTERESTING THOUGHT.

ONE REASON WE HAVEN'T PUT IT OUT THERE IS FOR SECURITY REASONS IT'S CONSIDERED CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE WE JUST DON'T WANT THE LOCATION OF WATER AND SEWER LINES BUT THAT OF SAYING YOU KNOW, CLICKING ON A PROPERTY TO SAY WHETHER THIS HAS WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE IS YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S AN INTERESTING WELL JUST THAT HAVE IT OR THAT THE LOT AND YOU KNOW AND I THINK I KNOW WE STARTED THIS FEE TO GET A ZONING LETTER FROM OUR TOWN BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUES PEOPLE BASED THEY DON'T REALIZE ANYTHING AND IT COULD BE AS EASY AS WORKING WITH OUR TOWN STAFF OUR COUNTY ANYWHERE TO SAY TO PUT EITHER GIS MAP TOGETHER ARE INCLUDED IN A ZONING LETTER RIGHT RIGHT THERE'S THERE IS PROPERTIES THAT HAVE SERVICE ALREADY AND THEN THERE'S PROPERTIES THAT DON'T HAVE SERVICE AND ONE THING IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT ABOUT THE PROPERTIES THAT DON'T HAVE SERVICE IS SOMETIMES THAT'S YOU KNOW IT MAY BE A CAPACITY ISSUE AND THERE MAY BE A A BIGGER COST TO GET WATER AND SEWER TO IT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF QUALIFIER IT. YEAH OKAY JUST A THOUGHT. YEAH THANK YOU.

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HE GETS CONCERNED ALL RIGHT. YES. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HPC. BY THE WAY, YOU SPOKE A LOT ABOUT POPULATION GROWTH AND IN YOUR PLANNING DO YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF PLANS CLIMATE CHANGE OR ANY CLIMATE MODELING THAT YOU'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT HOTTER SUMMERS, HEAVIER HURRICANES, THINGS LIKE THAT IN YOUR FUTURE PROJECTIONS? WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED THAT FUTURE PROJECTIONS AS FAR AS AS FLOWS WE DO TRY TO PROMOTE IRRIGATION MANAGEMENT AS FAR AS HAVING YOU KNOW THE BIG ISSUE IS EVERYBODY IS IRRIGATIONS THE BIG PEAK DEMAND SO THAT'S NOT HAVING EVERYONE IRRIGATE ALL AT ONCE IS THE ISSUE SO WE WANT TO TRY TO SPREAD SPREAD THAT OUT. SO IN THAT RESPECT WE DO CONSIDER IT YOU KNOW AS FAR AS LIKE HURRICANE PREP THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY THAT'S TOTALLY NEW TO ME BY THE WAY I'M NOT NOT USED TO HURRICANES I HAD A TORNADO WARNING WHEN I WAS HERE AND I'M LIKE THERE'S NO BASEMENT TO GO TO SO A LITTLE INTERESTING BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE UTILITY ITSELF IS REALLY INVOLVED IN AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO BUILD OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE A WORKOUT FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU MORE AND.

IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE AND LET EVERYONE GET TO KNOW WHO Y'ALL ARE SO STEVEN, WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? THE FOOD IS HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO EAT SO IF EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE COULD GO AND I'M SURE WE ALWAYS PROVIDE PLENTY LET THIS GROUP GO AND THEN OUR COMMUNITY. ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU WANT LUNCH OR IF YOU WANT LEAVE WE'RE NOT HAVING A WORKING LUNCH ANYMORE. I'M GUESSING WE TO WE NEED TO CATCH UP. OKAY. WE CAN DO 15 MINUTES LIKE 15 MINUTES TO GET FOOD AND LET THEM GO. OKAY.

BECAUSE THEY NEED TO LEAD THE CONVERSATION FOR THE NEXT STEP. RIGHT? SO LET'S ALL GO AND EAT REAL QUICK AND THEN THERE'S THAT WORD OUR LEADER THESE TWO GO ON AND GET GOING AND THEN I GET UP QUICK BECAUSE WE DON'T LISTEN SO I GET UP LINE FIRST BECAUSE THIS IS THEM SORRY IS RIGHT. OKAY GET SET UP WHEN WE GET OUT.

OKAY SO WE THINK PRESERVATION CONVERSATION IS GOING TO START AROUND OR WE'LL GET GET MOVEMENT. GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS GLENN UMBERGER I AM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL THIS AFTERNOON. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU BRAD SAULS WHO IS FROM THE STATE SUCH THE SOUTH CAROLINA'S STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE OR SO YOU'LL HEAR US USE THAT ACRONYM OFTEN BUT BRAD DROVE DOWN FROM FROM CHARLESTON FROM COLUMBIA THIS MORNING TO TALK TO ALL ABOUT THE PRESERVATION PARTNERSHIP AND THE SEA ALGAE PROGRAM WITHIN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA THAT BLUFFTON IS PART OF .

HEATHER, REMIND ME ALSO TO TELL YOU EVERYTHING THAT'S IN YOUR PACKETS UNDER THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION SECTION SORRY, TAB EIGHT. THANK YOU.

YEAH. NUMBERS LETTERS HARD FOR ME TODAY SO IN THAT PACKET IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER ARE SOME OF VARIOUS PAST HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS UNDERTAKEN THINGS LIKE RED DOT, THE GRAVES HOUSE, THE JOINER HOUSE THERE'S A FEW OF THOSE IN THERE THAT GIVES YOU BRIEF PROJECT OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENED, HOW WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW IN THE PACKET IS ALSO THE CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES MAP WHICH IS OUR LIST OF CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES WITHIN THE OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT WHICH IS OUR LOCAL DISTRICT AND ALSO INCLUDES OUR BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT WHICH ARE WHICH IS OUR NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT FROM 1996 IN THAT PACKET IS ALSO AND I'M GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER EVERYTHING I INCLUDED INFORMATION ABOUT THE CLG PROGRAM BOTH FROM THE STATE LEVEL AND ALSO A PAMPHLET FROM THE NATIONAL SERVICE AND THEN IN OUR STUDIO WE DO HAVE THINGS THAT GOVERN CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES I PRINTED OUT FOR YOU

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WHAT I'LL TALK WITH YOU ABOUT IS SPECIFICALLY CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM WHICH IS ONE OF SEVERAL PROGRAMS WE WORK WITH AND I'LL GIVE YOU KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF OF THAT PROGRAM AND WHAT OUR OFFICE DOES THEN I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ABOUT THAT. AGAIN, WE'RE THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION YOU MIGHT HEAR US CALLED HPU OR QIPAO OR MAYBE EVEN OTHER THINGS BUT WE ARE PART OF SOUTH CAROLINA OF ARCHIVES AND HISTORY. THERE'S ABOUT TEN OF US IN OUR OFFICE IN COLUMBIA.

WE ARE THE LEVEL ADMINISTRATORS OF A FEDERAL PROGRAM THE NATIONAL OF HISTORIC PLACES.

WHAT KEEP YOU FROM YES THANK YOU. WE ARE THE STATE ADMINISTRATOR FOR FEDERAL PROGRAM THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.

THAT'S REALLY THE HUB OF WE ALL FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WE PROCESS NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS FOR SOUTH CAROLINA. WE ASSIST WITH HISTORIC PROPERTY THAT IS IDENTIFYING AND EVALUATING HISTORIC PROPERTIES REHAB TAX INCENTIVES ARE AVAILABLE FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES GRANTS I MANAGE A GRANT AMONG OTHER THINGS AND WE CONSULT ON FEDERAL UNDERTAKINGS THAT AFFECT HISTORIC RESOURCES AND WE PROVIDE SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE FOR LOCAL PRESERVATION PROGRAMS. AGAIN, THE NATIONAL REGISTER IS OUR CORE PROGRAM AND THE NATIONAL REGISTER DOCUMENTS PLACES THAT ARE WORTHY OF PRESERVATION AND INCENTIVIZES PRESERVATION AND MAKES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONSULT WITH US ABOUT EFFECTS OF THEIR ACTIVITIES ON HISTORIC PLACES. SO WHAT THE NATIONAL REGISTER DOES NOT DO IT DOES NOT PREVENT DEMOLITION THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A HOUSE IN NEWBERRY THAT WAS LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS REPLACED IN ITS ENTIRETY BY A DRUGSTORE THAT HOUSE IS NO LONGER WITH US. THE NATIONAL REGISTER DOES NOT PREVENT RELOCATION OF HISTORIC PLACES. THIS HOUSE DID SURVIVE BEING MOVED BUT IT'S OFF OF ITS ORIGINAL FOR A CHAIN STORE THAT THEN LATER CLOSED THE NATIONAL REGISTER DOES NOT PREVENT INAPPROPRIATE DESIGN CHOICES SO .

I'M SURE TAMMY'S PET SHACK DOES A GREAT JOB BUT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PROBABLY THE BEST CHOICE FOR THAT HOUSE. BUT THE NATIONAL REGISTER DOESN'T PREVENT THAT OR HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT THE LOCAL PRESERVATION REVIEW CAN DO ALL THESE THINGS POTENTIALLY IF YOU CHOOSE TO AVAIL YOURSELF OF THE POWER THAT YOU HAVE THE STATE PLANNING AND ZONING LAWS IT'S A LOCAL PRESERVATION ORDINANCES HISTORIC OVERLAY ZONING ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW THAT ALL COMES AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND YOU HAVE THAT THE ABILITY TO DO THOSE THINGS THAT THE NATIONAL REGISTER CAN'T DO WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO DO AND BLUFFTON IS ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT HAS A LOCAL PRESERVATION ORDINANCE. SO WHAT ARE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS? THIS IS ESTABLISHED IN THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT WHICH IS THE PROGRAM THAT THE ACT THAT CREATED THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND ALL THE ASSOCIATED PROGRAMS AND THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS CERTIFIED IN THE SENSE OF YOU HAVE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM THAT MEETS REQUIREMENTS AND IT IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THE STATE PRESERVATION OFFICES AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE COAG PROGRAM RECOGNIZES THAT HAVE ESTABLISHED A LOCAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

THERE ARE MORE THAN 2000 RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY INCLUDING 36 IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND BLUFFTON BECAME COG IN 2001. THERE'S ALL OF OUR CURRENT COMMUNITIES AS OF AS OF RIGHT NOW SO YOU KNOW A BIG DISTINGUISHED GROUP IN SOUTH CAROLINA TOWNS LARGEST AND SMALL SO WHAT MAKES A LOCAL GOVERNMENT A.G OR CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGAIN THE REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT YOU ADOPT A PRESERVATION ORDINANCE TO APPOINT A QUALIFIED BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW A BOARD OF ARCHITECTS REVIEW IS SORT OF THE GENERIC TERM THAT'S HOW IT'S REFERRED TO IN THE STATE ENABLING LEGISLATION IN THAT PART OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING ACT. BUT DIFFERENT LOCALITIES INCLUDING BLUFFTON I BELIEVE CALL THEM DIFFERENT THINGS. IT MIGHT BE IN ONE PLACE THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES REVIEW

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SO THESE ARE ALL THE BASIC REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU NEED MEET IN ORDER TO BECOME A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT UNDER THIS PROGRAM. SO PRESERVATION ORDINANCE BEING ONE OF THE THE MAIN THINGS YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE IN PLACE FIRST AND SO MUST HAVES FOR A GOOD PRESERVATION ORDINANCE YOU WON'T ADOPT AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS A CLEARLY PURPOSE.

YOU CITE THE AUTHORITY FOR THAT ORDINANCE WHICH IS IN STATE CODE SECTION SIX DASH 29 870 AND FOLLOWING YOU NEED THE ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A CRITERIA AND PROCESSES FOR DESIGNATING DISTRICTS AND LANDMARKS. YOU ESTABLISH CRITERIA AND PROCESSES FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ALTERATION DEMOLITION RELOCATION OF DESIGNATED LANDMARKS AND PROPERTIES IN YOUR DISTRICTS AND NEW CONSTRUCTION WITHIN DESIGNATED DISTRICTS YOU NEED TO HAVE IN YOUR ORDINANCE PROCEDURES FOR ENFORCING DECISIONS BY YOUR LOCAL BOARD AND HAVING A PROCESS FOR THE RIGHT OF APPEAL FOR FOR PROPERTY OWNERS THEY HAVE DUE PROCESS TO APPEAL DECISIONS YOUR BOARD OF ARCHITECTS REVIEW OR WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO CALL IT IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

THERE'S MUST HAVES FOR THAT THAT BORDER COMMISSION AT LEAST FIVE OR NOT MORE THAN TEN MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNING BODY KEEP YOUR RESUMES ON FILE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION. YOU WANT APPOINT MEMBERS WITH A DEMONSTRATED INTEREST, COMPETENCE OR KNOWLEDGE AND SUPPORT PRESERVATION AND HAVE ONE OR MORE PROFESSIONALS IN VARIOUS FIELDS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ONE FROM EVERY OR EVERY HAVE EVERY DISCIPLINE REPRESENTED BUT THESE ARE AMONG THE GROUPS DISCIPLINES THAT YOU WANT TO WHENEVER POSSIBLE TRY TO HAVE THOSE REPRESENTED ON THEIR BOARD WHETHER IT'S ARCHITECTURE, HISTORY, LOCAL GOVERNMENT PLANNING, ARCHEOLOGY, CULTURAL ANTHROPOLOGY ANYTHING THAT IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH WITH HISTORY AND PRESERVATION CAN ALSO INCLUDE REAL ESTATE ENGINEERING LAW. THOSE ARE ALL DISCIPLINES THAT ARE FREQUENTLY REPRESENTED ON THESE BOARDS AS WELL AND YOU WANT TO DOCUMENT AS PART OF YOUR APPOINTING MEMBERS AND KEEPING YOUR BOARD WITH MEMBERS KEEPING THEM CURRENT YOU WANT TO HAVE A REASONABLE EFFORT DOCUMENTED TO OBTAIN FRESH EXPERTIZE HOW YOU CAN HELP TO THE EXTENT IT'S AVAILABLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. THE STATE REGS FOR THE PROGRAM ALSO SAY YOU NEED TO BE MEETING AT LEAST THREE TIMES A YEAR AND COMPLETE YOUR COMMISSION'S WORK IN A TIMELY FASHION AND ATTEND INFORMATION OR EDUCATIONAL MEETINGS RELATED TO COMMISSIONS WORK JUST LIKE MEMBERS OF PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDS KNOW OTHER BOARDS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE CERTAIN CONTINUING EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS AND THAT'S A BIT OF A CHALLENGE SOMETIMES FOR THE LOCAL PRESERVATION BOARD IT'S HARDER TO FIND RELEVANT TRAINING IN CONTINUING OPPORTUNITY SO WE TRY TO PROVIDE THAT AT OUR ANNUAL PRESERVATION CONFERENCE AND ALSO HELP FUNDING FOR OTHER EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO PRESERVATION LOCAL PRESERVATION BOARDS AND SO A GOOD CERTIFIED COMMISSIONS WOULD INCLUDE EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT YOUR SCHOOL RESOURCES REVIEWING AND MAKING DECISIONS ON YOUR LOCALLY DESIGNATED PROPERTIES. AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH OUR OFFICE MAKE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO OUR OFFICE ABOUT YOUR ACTIVITIES EACH YEAR HAVE GOOD BYLAWS AND RULES PROCEDURE AND AVOID CONFLICT OF INTEREST. A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD APPLY TO MOST OTHER PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ARE THE KEY TO THE SEAL STATUS IS MAINTAINING AN INVENTORY OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES SO YOU CAN COORDINATE WITH OFFICE THE SHIP TO RECORD HISTORIC PROPERTIES WE CAN DO PROVIDE TECHNICAL GUIDANCE ON HOW TO DO THAT AND FUNDING SUPPORT FOR LOCAL INTEREST BECAUSE IT'S ALSO USEFUL FOR US TOO WHENEVER. WE FUND LOCAL SURVEYS WE WE GET THAT DATA TOO AND THAT HELPS US WITH OPERATING OUR PROGRAMS SO WE CAN PROVIDE DATA FOR THE LOCAL AND FOR US GET IT ALL GET TWO THINGS IN ONE WITH OUR FUNDING SURVEYS YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN AN INVENTORY OF A LOCALLY DESIGNATED PROPERTIES IN DISTRICTS UPDATE AND ADD TO THAT INVENTORY AS NEEDED AND MAKE YOUR INVENTORY DATA AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AGAIN OPEN MEETINGS AND DUE PROCESS JUST LIKE WITH ANY OTHER BOARD OR COMMISSION THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS TO BE SURE THOSE MEETINGS ARE POSTED 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE KEEP ACCURATE AND COMPLETE MINUTES. THAT'S KEY BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW A DECISION MADE BY A BOARD APPEALED THEN THAT'S PART OF THE RECORD THAT GOES THROUGH THAT APPEALS PROCESS WITH CIRCUIT COURT AND THROUGH THAT MITIGATION PRE LITIGATION PROCESS THAT REQUIRES THAT THAT RECORD BE KEY IN WHETHER A DECISION IS DETERMINED DEFENSIBLE OR NOT OR WHETHER A DECISION IS GOING TO STAND OR NOT.

AND SO YOU WANT TO HAVE GOOD DOCUMENTATION THERE AND HAVE THE REASONS FOR THE DECISIONS

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IT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT HARDER DURING COVID TO GET MORE CREATIVE AND JUST BECAUSE OF , YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIMITED RESOURCES. BUT WE DO OFFER SESSIONS AT OUR ANNUAL STAYS TO OUR PRESERVATION OFFICE THAT MEMBERS OF LOCAL BOARDS CAN GET. WE ARE AN APPROVED PROVIDER BY THE SOUTH PLANNING EDUCATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE SO IF YOU KNOW YOU CONTINUE TO GET CREDITS AND YOU'RE ON THESE LOCAL THE LOCAL PRESERVATION BOARD COME ATTEND OUR SESSIONS AT THE PRESERVATION CONFERENCE AND GET AN HOUR OF CREDIT FOR EACH YOUR SESSIONS YOU CAN KNOCK OUT YOUR ANNUAL TRAINING REQUIREMENT BY COMING OUR CONFERENCE WE ALSO PROVIDE TRAINING THROUGH THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE OF PRESERVATION COMMISSIONS WHICH IS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS LOCAL PRESERVATION BOARDS AND WE WORK THEM A LOT TO PROVIDE TRAINING FOR THE LOCAL BOARDS AND WE'VE HAD SOME ONLINE AND IN-PERSON TRAINING IN THE LAST OF YEARS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING MORE OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S A VERY EFFICIENT WAY TO TO GET TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. SO ALSO HAVE A FORMAL OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON NEW NATIONAL REGISTER FROM THE COMMUNITY AS I GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AGAIN A SORT OF PRIORITIZE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE WHENEVER WE DO OUR STATEWIDE PRESERVATION PLAN AND THEN WE ALSO NOTIFY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SO ON TAX CREDIT PRODUCTS

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BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT LG PROGRAM OR ANY OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS WE WORK WITH. I LET COUNSEL ASK QUESTIONS. WE MAY HAVE SOME IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE WE DID WITH OTHER PRESENTATIONS TO ASK KIND OF START HERE YOU GOT A NEW GUEST IF YOU WANT. WELL LET'S ASK. YEAH, YEAH.

THANK YOU. WELL LET'S TAKE A NEW GUESTS THAT HAVEN'T STOOD UP AND SAID WHO YOU ARE ARE REQUIRED TO STAND UP AND SAY WHO. ROBERT I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THIS FORUM OR THE NOMINEE. SO MELANIE MARKS I LIVE IN BLUFFTON. I RUN CONNECTICUT HOUSE HISTORIES AND HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH ON THE CAMPBELL CHAPEL AME CHURCH ON THE GARVIN HOUSE AND I'M PRESENTLY WORKING ON ANOTHER PROJECT HERE IN BLUFFTON. HI, I'M JENNY HAYWARD.

I'M A OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT I'VE SPOKEN WITH YOU BEFORE AND I GUESS YOU COULD CALL ME THE TOWN PRESERVATION POLICEMAN. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE MISCARRY EVERYTHING HERE.

YOU NEED TO TELL EVERYBODY WHO YOU ARE AND I THINK ABOUT EVERYBODY I AM CARRIE GUZMAN.

I'M THE GROWTH MANAGER ADMINISTRATOR. DON'T HAVE IT EASY.

I'M USED TO THE VERY BEGINNING. YOU HAD TO STAND UP AND ASK ONE THING ONE THING YOU'RE PROUD OF OR ONE THING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE US ADDRESS SO WE DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, LARRY. MISS FRAZIER, YOU'RE UP.

YEAH. SO WITH YOUR ADMINISTRATION, WHAT'S THE LG, HAVE YOU ALL GIVEN CONSIDERATIONS ON HOW MUNICIPALITIES CAN AID WITH THOSE WHO MAJALI OWN CONTRIBUTE IN STRUCTURES NOW BEING RESIDENTS MANY OF WHOM MAY NOT HAVE THE TO RESTORE AND REPAIR WHAT'S CONSIDERED HISTORIC LIKE IS THERE A A UNIFIED MAYBE IDEA ON HOW TO HELP MANAGE OR EVEN MITIGATE SOME OF THAT? I KNOW THERE IS DEMAND I GET CALLS EVERY DAY FOLKS LOOKING FOR YOU GRANT ASSISTANCE TO HELP WITH PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC HOMES.

I MEAN WE DON'T HAVE THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER SOURCES ANYWHERE. UNFORTUNATELY THE ONLY THING WE MANAGED DIRECTLY THAT THAT CAN BE OF HELP FOR RESIDENTIAL HISTORIC PROPERTIES IS IN THE FORM OF A STATE INCOME TAX CREDIT. SO MY AND I KNOW THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS YOU KNOW, NEARLY ALL OF THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS OUT THERE BUT IT'S THE BEST THING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AT THE MOMENT. BUT I KNOW THAT THAT DOESN'T MEET THE DEMAND THAT THERE IS FOR ASSISTANCE ON PRESERVING HISTORIC HOMES. BUT THE STATE TAX CREDIT IS ONE THING THAT WE DO HAVE IT FOR QUALIFYING PROPERTIES IT'S A 25% CREDIT, 25% OF YOUR APPROVED REHAB EXPENSES YOU GET TO CLAIM AS A STATE INCOME TAX CREDIT.

SO YOU GOT TO HAVE STATE INCOME TAX LIABILITY YEAR TO YEAR FOR IT TO DO ANY GOOD BUT BUT IT'S A WE HAVE A GOOD BIT OF APPLICATIONS ON THAT THAT PROGRAM EVERY YEAR BUT IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T ALL THE DEMAND THAT'S THAT'S OUT THERE YOU MY QUESTION IS IS THERE A MODEL THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE FOR A TOWN LIKE OURS THAT CUTS OUT THAT'S FACTUAL THERE'S NO GRAY AREAS THAT CAN BE TAKEN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COULD LOOK TWEAK OR WHATEVER TO TO BETTER HELP SERVE OUR OUR STRUCTURES BECAUSE OUR WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS VERY CONFUSING AND IT'S HARD FOR THE OWNER TO TO UNDERSTAND MUCH LESS STAFF OR THE REST OF THE PEOPLE AND WHAT YOU CAN DO, WHAT YOU CAN'T DO. SO THAT'S WHY WELL LOCAL PRESERVATION ORDINANCES ARE NO BY FREQUENTLY WHEN THEY'RE YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC GUIDELINES IN THEM THEY MAY SAY AT THE TIME OR ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED THAT YOU KNOW THE SECRETARY THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR YOUR TREATMENT OF PROPERTIES WOULD BE THE STANDARD THAT WE EVALUATE APPLICATIONS AND THAT CERTAINLY IS A GOLD STANDARD FOR REVIEW OF PRESERVATION. THAT'S WHAT WE REVIEW. WE'RE REQUIRED TO REVIEW

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THE SECRETARY'S INTERIOR'S STANDARDS ARE FOR THE YOU KNOW, THE WIDELY ACCEPTED STANDARD AND THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED YOU KNOW, FOR US ON OUR FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAMS AND A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WILL ADOPT THAT AS A AS A BASIS .

I MEAN THEY ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BROADLY WORDED STATEMENTS AND SO A LOT OF GOVERNMENTS WILL THEN CHOOSE TO GO FURTHER THAN THAT TO ADOPT MORE SPECIFIC DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT THAT ARE SORT OF AN EXPANSION OF THOSE SECRETARY OR STANDARDS.

AND THEN AND WE HAVE FUNDED THOSE PROJECTS WITH GRANT IN THE PAST.

SO WHERE THAT'S A YOU KNOW AND GOING THROUGH A YOU KNOW, A PUBLIC INFORMATION PROCESS TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THIS GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE PUBLIC TO. LET'S ALL AGREE ON WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE ABOUT WHETHER YOU'RE WITH WITH WINDOWS AND SIDING AND ROOFS AND YOU CAN GET INTO MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT SORTS OF MATERIALS OR CHANGES ARE ENCOURAGED ACCEPTABLE WHAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE AND SO THE CLEAR THOSE DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE THE EASIER IT IS TO MAKE WHAT IS VERY KEY WORD IS DEFENSIBLE DECISIONS YOU WANT TO HAVE THE BOARD MAKE A DECISIONS THAT CAN STAND UP IF THERE'S AN APPEAL BUT ALSO THAT'S YOU KNOW AVOIDING BEING ARBITRARY AND WANT TO HAVE YOU WANT IT THOSE HAVING THOSE KIND OF GUIDELINES CAN HELP MAKE THAT YOU WON'T MAKE THAT REVIEW PROCESS IS PREDICTABLE AS POSSIBLE SO THAT FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE TABLE EVERYBODY COMING IN REALLY SHOULDN'T BE MUCH OF A MYSTERY ABOUT WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE. SO HAVING YOU KNOW, THE MORE SPECIFIC DESIGN STANDARDS YOU CAN GET BUT IN THOSE CAN VARY FROM COMMUNITY TO COMMUNITY AND IT'S KIND OF WHAT'S YOUR LEVEL OF TOLERANCE IN A GIVEN COMMUNITY FOR WHATEVER THE BUILDING ISSUE IS BUT GOT ONE GUIDELINES OR ONE WAY TO DO THAT BUT THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY SHOULD BE YOU KNOW CODIFIED AS IS LAW BUT IS SOMETHING YOU GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND ESTABLISH SOMETHING AND YOU WANT TO USE THEM BUT THEY'RE STILL SORT OF LIKE ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION YOU HAVE A FINGERTIPS SORT OF ADVISORY TO THE BORDER COMMISSION MAKING A YOU KNOW A SOUND JUST FINAL DECISION ON APPROVING OR DENYING AN APPLICATION THANK YOU IN THAT FOR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS STATEMENT WE WOULD CHALLENGE WITH TRYING TO PRESERVE WHAT WE THINK IS A HISTORICAL STRUCTURE YOU KNOW JUST IN OUR HISTORICAL DISTRICT AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS NOT THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO BRING THAT UP TO CURRENT STANDARD OR WHAT ZONE WOULD REQUESTS AND NO FUNDING FROM THE STATE OR FEDERAL ANYWHERE MAKES THAT EVEN MORE COMPETITIVE OR CHALLENGING AND IF WE WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF MAINTAINING OUR CULTURAL OR OUR HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE, THIS IS HARD FOR THAT FOR US TO MANDATE THAT THEY DO THE NECESSARY REPAIRS WITHOUT ALSO HAVING A SOME TYPE OF FUNDING MECHANISM TO SUPPORT THAT. SO JUST A STATEMENT THAT MAY BE SOMETIMES AROUND THE BOARD TABLE THEY CAN TRY TO THOSE KIND OF CONCERNS.

I MEAN IF HAD YOU KNOW EXPONENTIALLY MORE FUNDS AND WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US WE COULD PROBABLY DO A LOT OF WE COULD KEEP YOU KNOW HALF DOZEN OR MORE STAFF BUSY TRYING TO DO PROJECTS FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS, OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND THE STATE BECAUSE THE DEMAND STATEWIDE FAR EXCEEDS, YOU KNOW, THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE WE'VE HAD YOU KNOW, JUST GOTTEN A NEW STATE LEVEL STATE FUNDING SOURCE DEDICATED FOR STABILIZATION AND PROJECTS THAT WE'VE NOT HAD. I SPENT OVER 20 YEARS SINCE WE LAST HAD A STATE FUNDING PRESERVATION GRANT PROGRAM BUT AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE RELATIVELY LIMITED AMOUNT OF THOSE FUNDS I MEAN WE'VE GOT BASICALLY $1,000,000 THAT WE CAN SPREAD OUT AS FAR AS WE CAN.

YOU KNOW WE FOCUS ON NONPROFIT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO DO THAT FOR PROJECTS TO HAVE THE BROADEST PUBLIC AND THE BROADEST PUBLIC IMPACT THAT WE CAN IF WE OPEN IT UP TO INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS OR OTHER THINGS IT WOULD BE THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD MEET EVEN A FRACTION OF THAT DEMAND AND THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, TAX INCENTIVES THAT CAN HELP WITH SOME PROJECTS, CERTAINLY NOT ALL INDIVIDUAL ONES BUT YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT THE HOMEOWNER STATE TAX CREDIT AND THERE'S A FEDERAL PLUS STATE FOR INCOME PRODUCING PROPERTIES.

AGAIN THAT'S JUST A YOU KNOW, JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE OUT THERE AND IT TAKES A LOT MORE RESOURCES THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT AVAILABLE.

SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO PUSH FOR TRYING TO GET A BIGGER SLICE OF THE PIE OF THINGS OUT THERE TO HAVE RESOURCES MORE RESOURCES DEDICATED TO

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THERE ARE STATE LEVEL REGULATIONS FOR THE PROGRAM AND YOU KNOW, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN BE SURE THAT THAT ALL THE GOVERNMENTS THAT HAVE JOINED THAT PROGRAM TRY TO STAY ON THAT THAT THAT TRACK. BUT IT'S THAT WHERE THE YOU KNOW THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MAYBE HAVE MORE LEEWAY IS IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DECIDE YOU'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH DEMOLITION OR NOT OR YOU CAN JUST DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE YOURSELVES THE ABILITY TO DENY DEMOLITION OR NOT OR WHAT JUST WHAT LEVEL OF , YOU KNOW, PROJECTS ARE GOING TO NEED THAT THOSE SORTS OF THINGS WHERE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO DECIDE ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE CERTAIN PROJECTS CAN BE REVIEWED AT THE STAFF LEVEL AND DON'T HAVE TO GO TO BOARD. I MEAN THOSE THINGS THAT THOSE SORTS OF THINGS VARY FROM COMMUNITY TO COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF WHERE YOU IMPLEMENT PROGRAM ON THE LIST OF CLOGS PROVIDED, HAS THE STATE EVER REMOVED THAT QUALIFICATION OUT IN MY 25 YEARS, NO.

OKAY. I HEAR THAT CONCERN SOMETIMES SO IF THERE WAS SOMETHING IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS A SEALED GEE IT WOULD PROBABLY I KNOW I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD GO ABOUT ASKING I GUESS WE WOULD GET YOU GET AN OPINION FROM THE STATE TO SEE IF YOU'RE GETTING OUTSIDE BOUNDARIES OF A CLG DESIGNATION OR IS NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL I MEAN YOU KNOW WE ARE ON CALL IT A RESOURCE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OR IF YOU'RE HAVING PROBLEMS CHALLENGES WITH HOW YOU'RE MANAGING THE PROGRAM OR IF THERE'S YOU KNOW, ANY WITH IT WE CAN TRY TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON HOW TO MAKE THAT MAKE CORRECTIONS MAKE IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT YOUR PROGRAM RUNS BETTER YOU. DECERTIFICATION IS A THING THAT CAN HAPPEN BUT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN DOING IS WAY DOWN ON THE LIST OF THINGS OF OPTIONS THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO BEFORE THAT BEFORE WE GET TO DECERTIFICATION.

IT'S GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WORK WITH YOU TO FIGURE OUT RIGHT IF THERE'S A CHALLENGE OR AN ISSUE HOW CAN YOU FIX IT? HOW CAN YOU MAKE IT BETTER AND EVERYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN THAT DECERTIFICATION IS AN ABSOLUTE LAST RESORT ON IT'S NUMBER 115 ON A LIST OF HUNDRED 15 THINGS TO TRY TO DO BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT POINT.

THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THAT TOO. I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IT OCCURRED WAY BEFORE MOVED HERE. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IF THERE WAS SOME FROM ANYWHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH AND SAY Y'ALL MIGHT BE VIOLATING THE TERMS OF OUR SEAL.

GEE, YOU'RE NOT JUST GOING TO WRITE US A LETTER AND SAY WE'RE NO LONGER A SEAL.

GEE, YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO SIT WITH US AND HAVE A VERY OPEN DIALOG ABOUT WHAT ISSUE MAY BE.

WE WANT SOME EYES IN THE PROGRAM. WE WANT TO KEEP THEM THERE.

WE'RE ONLY THE PROGRAM EVEN BUT NOT LOOKING TO TO KICK ANYBODY .

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IT SOUNDS LIKE SO YOUR FIRST SLIDES YOU DON'T YOU DON'T SAY YOU CAN'T MOVE YOU DON'T SAY YOU CAN'T DEMOLISH YOU IF WE DEMOLISHED A NUMBER OF CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES THAT'S NOT YOUR TO SAY WE CAN'T OR CAN'T DO IT BASED ON YOUR SLIDE.

RIGHT. WE DON'T A THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE ANY SORT OF REVIEW ROLE OVER ANYTHING IS EXTREMELY LIMITED IN SPECIFIC WE REVIEW FEDERAL THAT MIGHT AFFECT PROPERTIES LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER THAT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT. FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE REQUIRED CONSULT WITH THE STATE PRESERVATION OFFICE WHEN THEY'RE UNDERTAKING THAT CAN BE FEDERAL FUNDING, FEDERAL LICENSES, FEDERAL PERMITS, ANYTHING THAT HAS A FEDERAL CONNECTION TO IT.

THEN THERE IS PART OF ALL THE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DO.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO COME TO US DETERMINE OUR PROPERTIES, BE IN THE THE AREA OF OF THEIR PROJECT. IS THERE GOING TO BE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR NOT IF IT'S AN ADVERSE WE WORK WITH THEM CAN IT BE AVOIDED IF CAN'T BE THEN THEY'VE GOT TO MITIGATE IT SOME WAY. SO EVEN THEN SOMETIMES THAT EVEN THOUGH THAT CONSULTATION PROCESS IS IN PLACE IT STILL DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN A RESOURCE WON'T BE LOST OR

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YES. SO RESOURCE IF OUR HPC WHICH IS OUR REVIEW BOARD SAYS YES YOU CAN MOVE IT THAT AND WE WOULD STILL CALL IT A CONTRIBUTING THEN THAT'S UP TO DETERMINATIONN CONTRIBUTING IT MEANS THINGS BEING ON THE CONTEXT. SO IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES PARTICULARLY IN A DISTRICT YOU KNOW WE AS PART OF THAT NOMINATION PROCESS WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION AT THE TIME OF NOMINATIONS THROUGH ABOUT WHAT CONTRIBUTES OR DOESN'T TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT A LOCAL DESIGNATION PROCESS I'M NOT THE LOCAL AND NATIONAL DESIGNATION MAY OVERLAP ON THE SAME ON THE EARTH BUT THE HOW YOU GO THROUGH THAT DESIGNATION PROCESS AND WHAT DETERMINE CONTRIBUTING OR NOT IT DEPENDS ON WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCAL PROGRAM OR NATIONAL REGISTER PROGRAM SO YOU MIGHT SAY SOMETHING CONTRIBUTES TO YOUR LOCAL DISTRICT BUT IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY CONTRIBUTE TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT ANYMORE BUT WE DON'T IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, DAILY MONITOR REGISTER DISTRICTS.

WE ONLY KNOW THAT CONTRIBUTING STATUS IN THE NATIONAL REGISTERS IS SORT OF ADVISORY UNTIL AND IT ONLY WOULD CHANGE IF WE HAD SOME REASON TO REVIEW IT IF SOMEBODY IS APPLYING FOR A TAX INCENTIVE OR A GRANT OR THERE IS A FEDERAL PROJECT MIGHT AFFECT IT THEN WE MIGHT HAVE CALLS TO TO EVALUATE TO REEVALUATE SOMETHING BUT WE'RE ONLY DEALING WITH THAT CONTRIBUTING OR NOT CONTRIBUTING IN THE CONTEXT OF THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND ITS ASSOCIATED PROGRAMS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN HAVE THEIR OWN DESIGNATION PROCESS THAT MAY MIRROR THE NATIONAL VERY CLOSELY OR IT MAY, YOU KNOW, GO A LITTLE BIT BROADER FROM THAT THAT'S UP TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO DETERMINE THAT WE'RE ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES WE'VE GOT TO NATIONALLY REGISTERED BUILDINGS RIGHT GOT TO THE BOSTON HISTORIC DISTRICT IS THE THIRD ONE WE'RE ALSO MENTIONS NOW I'M JUST SOMEWHERE IN BOSTON LIKE THE TOWN LIMITS BUT YEAH I DID YES RIGHT SO IN WE HAVE THE BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT NATIONAL REGISTER LISTED IN 1996 WHICH IS A SMALL PIECE BUT NOT ALL INCLUSIVE OF AT THE LOCAL DISTRICT. RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALLY LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER CHURCH THE CROSS 1975 AND CAMPBELL CHAPEL AMY FROM 2019.

RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE IT'S JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE LITTLE SMALL DISTRICT AND THEN WE HAVE THE OTHER I GUESS JUST AND I LOVE THAT SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS ARE AND I'M A LET'S SEE IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS BUT MY CONCERN I'VE HEARD AND I JUST WANT TO CLEAR IT UP IN A POOR HEATHER I ASK HER ALL THE TIME YOU'RE HERE NOW BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED WHAT THREATENS OUR LOSS OF A SEAL? GEE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DON'T US TO BE YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE US WHAT THREATENS THE OF A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE IF WE MOVE IT IF WE DISASSEMBLE IT IF IF IT BUILDS AND NEW KEY SYSTEM AT NEW CONSTRUCTION IF IT'S TORN DOWN AND IT'S BUILT AS NEW CONSTRUCTION IT'S UP TO THE LOCAL IT'S US DECIDING IF THAT STILL IS CONTRIBUTING YOU WOULD NOT YOUR LOCAL DISTRICT TO OUR LOCAL WE WOULD BE MAKING A CALL EVALUATIONS ABOUT CONTRIBUTING OR NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER LISTED DISTRICT AND AGAIN LIST THEY OVERLAP EACH OTHER BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT PROCESSES GOING ON AND THEN YOU ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES SAYS INVENTORY DATA AND THAT'S NOT JUST UNLIMITED THE 87 NAMES OF ADDRESSES THAT'S ALL THE THE RESOURCE DATA THAT GOES WITH IT AM I RIGHT ON THAT AND THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO HOUSE SO THE DIFFERENT INVENTORY THAT HE'S TALKED ABOUT ON THIS SLIDE IS THIS IS THAT THE 2019 ABOVEGROUND RESOURCE SURVEY UPDATE THAT WE DID IN 2019 SO THAT SHOULD BE DATA AND THAT IS NOT A LIST THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M AT SO BUT BEFORE I POOR GLEN ASKED HIM TO LOOK AT THAT I TRIED TO GO ON CHIP AND IT WASN'T THERE. SO DO YOU HAVE THAT DATA PUBLICLY AVAILABLE OR DO WE HAVE TO ASK FOR IT? WHAT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE MEAN THE 2019 SPECIFIC DATA HAS NOT BEEN ACCESSIONED INTO OUR COLLECTION ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A PROJECT THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH OUR OFFICE OR ANYTHING WE DID IN GRANTS AND WE HAVE DATA PREVIOUS GRANT FUNDED

[03:20:03]

I JUST THOUGHT ON YOUR SLIDE IT SAID WE HAD TO PROVIDE THAT THAT WAS ON ONE OF YOUR WELL YOU WANT TO HAVE I MEAN IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE WHATEVER YOUR LEVEL OF INVENTORY IS JUST MAKING IT THAT IT BEING SURE THAT IT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN INSPECT IT AND LEARN FROM IT BENEFIT FROM IT JUST LIKE THE THE TOWN AND THE THE WATER COMMISSION FALLS ON US AS A TOWN RIGHT DECIDE THAT SHOULD BE ON OUR WEBSITE IT SHOULD BE OPEN AT ANY TIME. YEAH. OKAY.

OKAY WE'RE CLEAR IN THE MUD ISN'T IT? YEAH I'M I'M SURE WE HAVE QUESTIONS THE COMMUNITY BUT YOU RAISE YOUR HAND STEPHEN NO YOU ANSWER I ANSWER GREEN STATE IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO TRY TO GET HIM TO CLARIFY. OKAY TERRY TALK LOUDLY.

YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE BE TIGHT AND WELL DONE IS THE DESIGN.

WHAT ARE THE 3 TO 4 OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IN OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES? WELL, AGAIN, IT'S A MATTER EVERYBODY'S GUIDELINES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN OTHER CASES YOU MAY YOU COULD COMPARE GUIDELINES FROM DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND PROBABLY SEE A LOT OF THE SAME SORT OF LANGUAGE REUSE.

BUT THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENCES AS WELL AND IT IS REALLY A MATTER WHAT THE COMMUNITY SETS AS A AS A PRIORITY FOR WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT THAT YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH WHAT CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES YOU TRYING TO MAINTAIN ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY AND THE GUIDELINES SHOULD BE? I MEAN A LOT ABOUT GUIDELINES COULD BE KIND OF BOILERPLATE INFORMATION BUT THEY SHOULD ALSO BE SORT OF SPECIFIED TO WHATEVER ARE THE UNIQUE RESOURCES IN THAT SPECIFIC COMMUNITY BECAUSE ARCHITECTURE IN ONE PLACE IS NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME IN ANOTHER.

SOMETIMES YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE APPLICATION OF ARCHITECTURE THAT MIGHT BE REPEATED IN ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER OTHER WAYS OTHER TYPES MAY BE SINGULAR OR UNIQUE OR REGIONAL.

SO YOU WANT TO HAVE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT FIT YOUR COMMUNITY WELL WHAT THE CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES THE COMMUNITY ARE AND DETERMINING WHAT YOU KNOW IS THE WHAT'S THE PRIORITY? WHAT WHAT ARE YOU WANTING TO WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? WHAT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU IS IT IMPORTANT TO YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN HISTORIC WOOD WINDOWS OR OR DO YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN WOOD SIDING OR HOW FLEXIBLE OR NOT YOU WANT TO BE ON THOSE ISSUES? THAT'S THAT'S ALL WHERE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO SORT OF DECIDE HOW WIDE OPEN OR RIGID THEY MAY WANT TO BE IN AND WHAT'S APPROVABLE OR NOT WITH INDIVIDUAL LIKE YOU RIGHT HERE YEAH JUST A COMMENT ON THAT. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET TO IT LATER BUT PIGGYBACKING OF WHAT TERRY JUST ASKED, WHAT TOWN OF BLUFFTON IN TERMS OF THE GUIDELINES ON HOW DO YOU HANDLE DEAL WITH HISTORIC STRUCTURES, I THAT PROCESS I THINK THE GUIDELINES FOR IT HAVE COINCIDE ADDED AND HAVE DONE A REALLY EXPLICIT JOB OF OUTLINING WITH THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARD AND DESIGN HAS MORE SO OUR PROCESS OF HOW WE ARE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING UP TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING BY IT BUT WHO WANTS TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT JUST HOW DETAIL THEY GET? THEY GO FROM ANY QUESTION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE OF A STRUCTURE FROM SIGNAGE TO IF YOU ACQUIRE BUILDING AND WANT TO CUT IN TO PUT IN AN EXHAUSTED HOW DO YOU DO THAT IF YOU WANT TO IF YOU WERE REPAIRING A PORCH AND THE WOOD FELL UNDER YOU LIKE WHAT STEPS DO YOU TAKE? SO THE PROCESS THAT BLUFFTON HAS OUTLINED THAT TOO I THINK IT'S MORE SO LOOKING AT HOW DO YOU ENFORCE AND ENSURE PEOPLE ARE ABIDING BY THAT AS A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WANT TO CIRCUMVENT WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE AND BRING IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL OPINIONS OF HOW THINK OR FEEL SOMETHING SHOULD BE. BUT HAVING GUIDELINES THAT YOU CAN STICK TO AND MAINTAIN IS MORE IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE OF WHERE WE ARE. MR. WOOD YES, I WAS GOING TO I WAS ON WAVELENGTH.

I THINK MY TAKEAWAY FROM THIS AGAIN CORRECT ME IF I'M INCORRECT THERE'S A LOT OF LEEWAY EXCUSE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL YOU'RE NOT SO IS CONCERNED IF IT'S NOT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER PER SE LIKE THE TWO THAT WE HAVE AND SO WHAT I MY TAKEAWAY WAS AGAIN AND AND KIND OF LIKE WHAT BRIDGET SAYING I THINK IF AT THE LOCAL LEVEL WHETHER IT'S STIMULATION WHETHER IT'S STABILIZED NATION WHATEVER IT IS I THINK THE TAKEAWAY WAS TO

[03:25:07]

OBVIOUSLY WE RUN INTO THIS, YOU KNOW, FREQUENTLY AND WE'VE HAD SINCE THE EIGHT YEARS I'VE BEEN SITTING AT THE TABLE WE PROBABLY HAD FIVE INSTANCES THAT CAN THINK OF WITH, YOU KNOW, A BUSINESS OR TWO AND PROPERTY OWNERS AND YOU KNOW AND THEY LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE ,YOU KNOW, ORDINANCES ARE SOMEWHAT ALWAYS VAGUE. YOU CAN'T MAKE EVERYTHING PERFECT SO THEREIN LIES THE RUB. SO I GUESS IT'S IT BEHOOVES US TO JUST REVISIT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE AS MUCH AS THAT AS MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE AS. MY WHAT I WAS GETTING FROM YOU ALL AGREE YOU KNOW AND THANK YOU HPC FOR BEING HERE 313 ARE HERE AND I THINK WE'LL GET DOWN INTO THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS KIND OF THING WHEN WE START LOOKING AT OUR NEXT SUBJECT WHICH THEY WANT TO START BY 130 SO WE CAN STAY ON TRACK. I KNOW I WE MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION OF COMMUNITY IS THERE A QUESTION ASKED HPC JOANIE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND UNLESS YOU JUST YOU'RE UP.

I WOULD RATHER BUT YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO MEG. YES.

DO I DID YES YOU HAVE. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, CAN I HAVE MORE A COUPLE OF MINUTES I'LL ASK ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION OR NO? I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. YES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS NOT WHAT I CAME PREPARED TO DO TO BUT DOES ANYBODY IN HERE KNOW THE HISTORY OF PRESERVATION AUCTION ? YOU PROBABLY DONE WELL, TONY OKAY.

SO SO DON'T GO SO MUCH ON THE HISTORY MAYBE QUESTION I MEAN I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW THAT WOMEN STARTED PRESERVATION IN THIS COUNTRY IN 1850 AT MOUNT VERNON AND MOVED ON TO WILLIAM BURG RICHMOND CHARLESTON, SAVANNAH, SAN ANTONIO WHO ELSE SPREAD A NEW ORLEANS IT MOVED AROUND THE COUNTRY UNTIL FINALLY PRESIDENT JOHNSON PASSED THE NATIONAL PRESERVATION LAW AND THAT'S WHEN DISTRICTS CAME INTO BEING AND THIS INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY KNEW IT PARTICULARLY. OUR HPC MEMBERS AND OUR TOWN COUNCIL PEOPLE AND FROM THAT WHEN THAT WAS PASSED PRESIDENT JOHNSON GAVE IT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, THE DEPARTMENT INTERIOR GAVE IT TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, THE PARK SERVICE SAID THE STATES ARE GOING TO DO IT AND THAT'S WHEN SHIP BEGAN.

THE SHIP SAID WE CAN'T DO IT OURSELVES. THAT'S WHEN CLASSES BEGAN AND TO BE A SEA ALGAE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN HPC AND HPC DON'T EXIST IN CITIES WHERE THERE'S NO SEA ALGAE. AM I CORRECT? YES.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL KNOW WHY WE HAVE AN HPC. IT'S ABOUT PRESERVATION.

SO THAT BRINGS ME TO MY POINT I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT WE'VE HAD BUT I'M HERE REALLY DAN GAVE ME MY ENTRY POINT IN SAYING SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE IN OUR SEALED G FOR OUR HPC AND IF IS MY BIBLE AND IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT YOU NEED TO READ IT. IT'S THE STATE REGULATIONS FOR THE LG CHAPTER 12.

BRAD PROBABLY KNOWS THAT WELL IT'S IT'S WHERE ALL EVERYTHING IS THE LG AND IN HPC IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN DO IS IN THIS LITTLE CHAPTER IT'S NOT THAT LONG SO IN THE CHAPTER IT DOES SAY AND I LEFT MY READING GLASSES SO I CAN'T READ THAT THE COMMISSION THE HPC SHALL HAVE AUTHORITY AND THE ORDINANCE TO REVIEW AND RENDER DECISIONS ON ALL PROPOSED EVERYTHING ALTERATIONS PRESERVATION REHABS AND THE WHOLE BIT AFFECTING DESIGNATED HISTORIC PRESERVATION AREAS ARE IN INDIVIDUALLY DESIGNATED LOCAL LANDMARKS AND WE HAVE A FEW OF THOSE HERE UNFORTUNATELY WE ONLY HAVE TEN AND A BELL AND STRETCHES BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS. SO NOW LET'S MOVE TO OUR UDALL AND IF YOU HAVE YOUR UDALL SECTION 3.18 AND THAT PROVIDES PROCEDURES AND STANDARDS TO FACILITATE THE REVIEW OF CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS WE ALL KNOW THOSE CERTIFICATES COME ONLY FROM THE HPC NOT FROM THE TOWN PER SAY. SO IF YOU GO TO BE UNDER THAT SECTION IT'S THE MAINTENANCE OF CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AS REMINDERS OF OUR DISTRICT AND

[03:30:02]

SO THIS IS MY OPINION NOW IS NOT THIS CHAPTER OR THE IDEA THIS SECTION RULES MAYBE RESULTS IN FROM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES BY PASSING THE THIS THESE A3G GIVE PEOPLE A REASON TO BYPASS THIS IS NOT THE INTENT OF THE STATE REGS IN THE STATE REGULATIONS REMEMBER STATE REGS SAID HPC I CAN'T READ READ I'M SORRY IT'S NOT ALL SOME STRUCTURES IT'S ALL THAT THE HPC OVER OUR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS.

THESE ARE WORDS FROM THE STATE AND. WE NEED TO FOLLOW THEM AS A TOWN AND WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THEM. THE SECTION OF APPLICABILITY SHOULD READ WORK DONE ON OUR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES MUST GO BEFORE THE HPC AND RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. WE ARE LETTING PEOPLE BYPASS THAT AND THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE IN THIS TOWN WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHO NEEDS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND WHO DOESN'T. SO IF WE MAY MOVE ON TO THE SITE FEATURE PERMIT THE SITE FEATURE PERMIT SHOULD SAY IN MY OPINION WELL FIRST OF ALL A PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR SIGNS PARKING LOTS GARDENS ARE MAINTENANCE THE REPAIR OF EXISTING STRUCTURES AND NUMBER FIVE MINOR WORK WELL THIS SITE FEATURE PERMIT SHOULD BE APPLICABLE ONLY TO NON CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE STRUCTURES ALL CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES MUST HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR ALL WORK IF WE MAKE THAT CLEAR AND WE MAKE THAT THE RULE WE'RE GOING TO AVOID A LOT OF THE ISSUES IN OUR TOWN AND I HAVE ONLY ONE MORE THING TO TO ADD AND IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION. CHAPTER 12 FROM THE STATE SAYS THAT IT IS THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY AND TO EDUCATE OUR HPC MEMBERS WE ARE NOT DOING THAT WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR MEMBERS AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF IDEAS FOR. THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE HAS A MYRIAD ARTICLES ON PRESERVATION. THEY'RE VERY FRIENDLY AND ANYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND THEM. AND I KNOW TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE FOR HP MEMBERS.

WE CANCEL A LOT OF MEETINGS. THEY COMMIT TO ONE MEETING A MONTH SO ON CANCELED MEETINGS BRING THEM IN FOR AN EDUCATION TIME AND THAT'S MY INPUT AND I'M SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG MAINLY WITH TEST QUESTIONS AND THINGS WHICH I MEAN I TOOK NOTES BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET DOWN OH I HAVE ONE MORE THING AND I BROUGHT IT WITH ME .

THE SAFETY ISSUE PERMIT IS NOT PART OF HPC AND IT SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE HPC WEBSITE.

PLEASE STAY BECAUSE AREA WE'RE GETTING INTO OUR WORKSHOP ITEMS WHICH IS CHANGING YOUDO AND THINGS SO IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS PLEASE LET SHIP OUT BECAUSE I KNOW SHIP HAS BEEN A BIG CONVERSATION POINT ON Y'ALL COULD GET RID OF US TOMORROW AND THINGS THAT BUT JOURNEY I TOOK NOTES AND THANK YOU AND I WILL ABSOLUTELY CALL ON COMMUNITY WHEN WE GET TO THIS SECTION I'LL COMMENT IF YOU JUST WANTED A QUICK COMMENT. WE HAVE WE DO HAVE SOME OF OUR HPC MEMBERS HERE AND I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE DON'T WANT COME ACROSS IN A PERIOD WHERE WE'RE NOT APPRECIATIVE OF THEM. SO I DON'T WANT ANY COMMENT TO BE MADE TO SHOW THAT WE DON'T VALUE WHAT YOU ALL DO AND JUST THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT TO BE HERE TODAY. ABSOLUTELY. GOOD POINTS.

VERY GOOD POINTS MADE AND THANK BRIGITTE QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY REALLY TRY TO FOCUS

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HI. YES I'M MELANIE MARKS BRAND AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT JUST PRESERVATION IN GENERAL AND JUST JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW WHERE I COME FROM AND MY BACKGROUND I'VE WORKED IN PRESERVATION FOR 25 PLUS YEARS .

I RUN A COMPANY THAT IS PRESERVATION CENTRIC. I DO WORK ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M NOT HERE TO TOUT MY I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MY UNDERSTAND OF PRESERVATION 4 F1S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. DO YOU THINK THIS MAKES SENSE OR IS BEST PRACTICE OR NOT AND I CAN GIVE YOU FEEDBACK ON THAT. I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

YOU GIVE US KIND OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION OF AHP SORT OF , YEAH.

DEFINITELY AN ATTORNEY. NO, BUT YEAH. YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THIS ABOUT SAYING IT'S ALL ON IT'S ALL ON BASICALLY FALLS ALL ON US LOCALLY UNLESS IT'S WITHIN THAT DISTRICT THAT'S CALLED THE NATIONAL RIGHT? YEAH. THERE'S THE DISTINCTION I WAS TRYING TO YOU KNOW TO EMPHASIZE AND IT'S A QUESTION WE GET DAILY AND I'VE GOTTEN NEARLY DAILY FOR 25 YEARS BUT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES CAN AND CAN'T DO AND WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT PRESERVATION PROGRAMS CAN AND CAN'T DO? AND I MEAN YET WE'RE NOT THE PRESERVATION POLICE BUT TO THE TO THE EXTENT THERE IS A PRESERVATION POLICE IT WOULD BE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IF THEY CHOOSE TO BE ONE AND TO THE EXTENT THEY CHOOSE TO BE ONE, I APPRECIATE IT. I WILL I WILL END IT BECAUSE I KNOW WE GOT TO GET GOING IN OUR BOND OR AND FOR THOSE OF YOU NEW THERE'S A QR CODE YOU CAN SCAN AND ON YOUR SCAN YOU'LL SEE WHAT'S IN OUR BINDER AND IN OUR BINDER UNDER SECTION EIGHT GIVES THE EXACTLY WHAT JONI WAS TALKING ABOUT THE STATE CODE THE LOCAL EVERYTHING'S IN

[03:40:02]

BUT THE ORANGE HAS A SECOND LEVEL OF SCRUTINY WHICH CAN REALLY CAUSE US ISSUES IF WE VIOLATE THAT THAT RIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE INPUT ON IN THE ORANGE AGAIN THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT IS AGAIN IT'S LARGELY AN HONORIFIC DESIGNATION AND WE JUST GET INVOLVED WHEN THERE ARE FEDERAL UNDERTAKINGS OR WHEN OWNERS ARE USING SPECIFIC GRANTS OR TAX INCENTIVES OR THINGS THAT ARE TIED TO THAT NATIONAL REGISTER STATUS ANYTHING. WELL BAILEY BILL IS LOCAL WHEN YOU'VE GOT A LOCAL BOARD YEAH WE ONLY REVIEW BAILEY BILL THINGS WHEN THERE'S NO LOCAL BOARD HOW HOW MANY PULL OUT JOHNNY FOR A MINUTE JOHNNY WENT STRAIGHT TO YOU BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS WORLD THAT WE'RE LIVING IN WHEN SHE REDID HER HOUSE SOME ON WATER STREET SHE WENT STRAIGHT TO Y'ALL. SO HER HOUSE REALLY FELL UNDER THAT AS WELL.

THE THE PANHANDLE OF THE GRANT SHE USED TAX CREDITS SHE HAD Y'ALL COME IN AND WRITE IF IF SOMEBODY WAS USING THE TAX INCENTIVES THAT WE'RE INVOLVED WITH AND WE DEFINITELY HAVE A ROLE IN REVIEWING IT AND APPROVING THAT WHETHER IT'S THE STATE INCOME TAX CREDIT OR THE FEDERAL ONE FOR INCOME PRODUCING PROJECTS, WE HAVE A DEFINITE ROLE IN THAT ONE.

IT'S A TAX CREDIT APPLICATION PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH CAMPBELL CHURCH OF THE CROSS. ANYONE WHO'S USED ANY KIND OF STATE TAX CREDITS ONLY ONLY IF YOU'RE GIVING THEM MONEY. YEAH, WE ONLY HAVE AUVS.

YEAH. WE DON'T JUST USE CAMPBELL CHAPEL BECAUSE IT'S MOST RECENT . THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL LISTING THEIR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE, UPKEEP OR LACK THEREOF OF THE BUILDING. WE DON'T HAVE OVERSIGHT OR REGULATION OF THAT UNLESS WE ARE PROVIDING DIRECT GRANT ASSISTANCE OR THERE IS A FEDERAL UNDERTAKING THAT AFFECTS THAT. BUT IF THEY'RE JUST ON THEIR OWN WITH PRIVATE FUNDING OR WHATEVER DOING THINGS THAT ARE GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT TO THE BUILDING WE DON'T HAVE ANY OVERSIGHT OF IT NOT REQUIRED TO COME TO US FOR ANY PRIOR APPROVAL. THEY'RE JUST VERY NARROW SPECIFIC ACTIONS THAT TRIGGER OUR OVERSIGHT AND REVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE LISTED TO REGISTER. CURIOUS FOR US TO KNOW WHO WHAT PROPERTIES ARE REALLY CRITICAL IF YOU ALL HAVE TO HAVE EYES AND EARS ON IT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ANSWER IS FOR US.

WELL THE THINGS THAT ARE SORRY IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THE ONLY TIME YOU CARE ABOUT ANYTHING IS IF SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO GET A GRANT ON A CERTAIN PROJECT. WELL, WE I MEAN WE CARE ABOUT OUR STORE PROPERTIES BUT BUT AS FAR AS HAVING A A A REGULATORY OR SPECIFIC NEW POWER TO DO ANYTHING OF ANY SORT IS WHEN IT'S TRIGGERED ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS. SO IF SOMEBODY IS JUST MAKING A SAY THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A HOUSE THAT'S IN THE BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT THIS LISTED THE NATIONAL REGISTER BUT ALSO HAS LOCAL REVIEW.

IF SOMEBODY IS JUST, YOU KNOW, PAINTING THE OUTSIDE OR FIXING THE WINDOWS OR WHATEVER AND THEY'RE JUST DOING THAT OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKET, THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE TOWN TO GET THAT WORK APPROVED. BUT THEY'RE NOT COMING TO US. DON'T THEY'RE ONLY COMING TO US IF THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO GET A STATE TAX CREDIT FOR THAT THEN WE WOULD HAVE REVIEW OVER IT.

BUT THAT'S THERE'S ONLY THOSE VERY SPECIFIC NARROW INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE ANY SORT OF POLICE OR REGULATORY ROLE AND IT'S NOT EVEN THAT. BUT ONE FINAL THING IN ANSWERING LIKE TO YOU KNOW TO DETAIL WHAT IF WE WHAT OH I MEAN HOW TO ASK IT SO IF THERE IS A STRUCTURE THAT WAS MOVED AND RECONSIDERED DID YOU DON'T CARE IF WE STILL CALL IT A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE OR NOT? THERE ARE NO RULES IN THAT STATE LEVEL THAT IS LOCAL.

YEAH THAT'S YOUR WHEN YOU'RE YOU'VE GOT YOUR OWN PROCESS AND CRITERIA FOR WHAT YOU DETERMINE IS CONTRIBUTING OR NOT IN A LOCAL OVERLAY. YOU KNOW HOW THAT'S SEEN BY THE NATIONAL REGISTER MAY BE THE SAME OR DIFFERENT. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SITUATION IS BUT WHAT WE DON'T BUT AGAIN IT'S TWO SEPARATE PROCESSES.

YES. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY FOR THE PURPOSE OF CLARITY IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE IN TERMS OF PRESERVATION AND AS YOU SAID, A LOT OF THOSE REGULATIONS FALL TO US ON THE LOCAL LEVEL AND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ARE THOSE WHO AT TIMES WANT TO CIRCUMVENT OUR PROCESS. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF I CAN IF I DON'T LIKE WHAT HPC IS SAID CAN I GO TO SOMEONE ELSE AND KIND OF GET MY WAY BECAUSE I THINK PRESERVATION IS THIS OR THAT AND THE REALITY IS IT'S BEEN SET AT THE LOCAL LEVEL FOR THAT REASON AND IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ANYONE TO COME IN AND CONVOLUTED THE PROCESS BECAUSE

[03:45:05]

ALL RIGHT. I KEEP DOING THAT. THAT MUST BE WHY IT KEEPS CUTTING OUT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAD THIS ON THE AGENDA AND WE DID IT THE WAY WE DID IT AND WHY WE WANTED THE STATE TO BE HERE IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET COUNSEL TO GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOUR RESPONSIBLE PARTIES, WHAT STAFF RESPONSIBILITIES AND HOW WE ALL WORK SYMBIOTIC WITHIN THIS WITHIN HISTORIC PRESERVATION BECAUSE AS WE START GOING INTO THE ACTUAL ACTION ITEMS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHAT CAME OUT OF COUNCIL WAS WITH THAT BASE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH OUR LOCAL HISTORIC ORDINANCE IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TO LOOK LIKE BE MAINTAINED AS AND HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS BE AND AS YOU.

THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE BRAD AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT AND AS YOU'RE KIND OF GETTING TO THAT POINT THERE AT THE END AND THE STATEMENTS WERE BEING MADE IS REALLY WHAT PROCESS WHAT PRESERVATION, WHAT GUIDELINES, WHAT RESTRICTIONS ARE MOVING DEMOLITION ALL THAT IT'S WHAT COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS TO MAINTAIN THAT HISTORIC DISTRICT AT THAT LEVEL AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO GET TO THAT POINT AS WE MOVED INTO THE ACTION ITEMS IS BECAUSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THAT SAME BASE UNDERSTANDING SO THAT AS THE ACTION ITEMS WERE BEING DISCUSSED WE WERE MAKING SURE WE WERE FOCUSING ON COUNCIL'S SPECIFIC PRIORITIES. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE ALL THAT TODAY AND A LOT OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE AND THIS IS NOT AN AGENDA YEAH WHAT YOU WHAT WE'LL LOOK AT IS WHAT'S A LOT OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO Y'ALL AND I'LL LET THEM HIT ON THAT MORE SO WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT REVIEWING IT WILL WE'LL SAY WE NEED TO REVIEW THIS BUT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO Y'ALL WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR Y'ALL TO APPROVE. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD AND EVERYBODY WAS ON THE SAME BASE LEVEL THAT THE LOCAL DISTRICT IT'S COUNCIL'S COUNCILS TO DECIDE AND THAT'S WHY WE ASKED THE SURVEY QUESTIONS AS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THAT WAS COUNCIL WIDE AS WE START GOING INTO THESE CONVERSATIONS . SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SAY THAT AND THEN I'M SO SAID AND THAT'LL TAKE US FORWARD AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE ACTION ITEMS. SO SO THE PLAN IS IS THIS SOMETHING Y'ALL WANT ON AN AGENDA PIPELINE FOR NEXT YEAR OR THIS YEAR TAMARA TO DETERMINE AND GET DECIDE DO YOU WANT COMMUNITY INPUT? DO YOU WANT TO GET A GROUP TOGETHER? DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WHAT SIMPLE IT MUST NOT BE SIMPLE BECAUSE EVERYONE'S I'M STILL CONFUSED AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME ITEMS IN HERE ALREADY. OKAY.

THAT REFERENCE DOING SOME OF THAT RESEARCH AND BRINGING STUFF BACK.

YEAH WELL YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE QUITE THERE YET SO WE USUALLY DON'T SEE ALL THE TABS EITHER. DO Y'ALL REALIZE THAT? OKAY, Y'ALL ARE UP LOOK UP THIS IN YOUR PACKET BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING ON THIS UP LAST NIGHT BUT WE WILL GET THIS RIGHT.

THIS WILL BE WHAT WILL BECOME YES. OKAY OKAY OKAY.

THAT'S EASY BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD EARLIER ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARTNERS AND WHATNOT, I PROPOSE THIS LANGUAGE THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED.

THESE ARE ADDITIONAL BUT PARTNERING WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES TO SUPPORT THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE EFFORTS THAT IMPACT THE TOWN TO GET TO MAYOR WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WE DON'T CONTROL ALL OF IT BUT THOSE THAT ARE HERE WE NEED TO BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND THEN THAT CREATES THE FOURTH GUIDING PRINCIPLE WHICH REALLY TALKS ABOUT ALL THE AVENUES CREATING, PURSUING AND MAINTAINING COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIPS TO MAXIMIZE AND LEVERAGE OUTSIDE AGENCIES INFRASTRUCTURE TO BENEFIT OUR RESIDENTS.

SO THAT TALKS ABOUT WE DON'T CONTROL IT ALL BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THOSE THAT DO HELP

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WE HAVE TO GO TO THE POWER POINT AND THEN TO THAT LIST YOU WANT TO SKIP THE POWER AND JUST START YEAH WE'RE NOT GOING TO BURN COUNCIL GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S A GOOD LUNCH BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'VE GOT 97 PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY STAFF, MOST OF THEM OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS THAT'S QUITE FRANKLY THAT'S A LOT OF PROJECTS. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID AND THE MANAGER STARTED THIS IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON ON WE WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON WHY ARE WE YOU KNOW GOOD TO ASK QUESTIONS WHY IS THIS BEING DONE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF IS IT A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY YOU'RE THE YOU'RE THE GOVERNING BOARD. SECONDLY OH, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ASK WHAT'S BEING DONE? WHAT WHAT WHAT IS THIS IF YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE SOME OF THESE OBVIOUSLY BILL AND I FOR MATT ARE FROM OUT OF TOWN.

SO A LOT OF WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? WE ASKED QUESTIONS YESTERDAY WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE HOW BECAUSE IF WE START GETTING INTO ASKING STAFF WELL WHAT STEPS ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT? WE'LL BE HERE UNTIL NEXT WEEK AND ALL OF THESE EVERY SINGLE I VERIFIED IT WITH THE MANAGER TODAY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU, THE COUNCIL SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NUMBER OF BITES THAT WHEN IT GETS DOWN TO YOU KNOW, DOWN TO TWO IMPLEMENTATION WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT DID DID WE MISS ANYTHING WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THESE LISTS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE MISSED NOW WE WE OBVIOUSLY THE STAFF REALLY GLEANED OVER THE COUNCIL SURVEYS YESTERDAY ON YOUR PRIORITIES IN ADDITION TO THAT YOU YOU KNOW OVER BILL AND I LEARNED OVER THE LAST YEAR THEY WERE LISTENING TO YOU YEAH ACTUALLY HAVE THEY ACTUALLY LISTEN GOOD GOOD TO AIR THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FOR SO THEY WERE LISTENING TO YOU AND SO I THINK I THINK EVERYTHING'S CAPTURED BUT WE'RE NOT PERFECT.

THERE MAY BE SOMETHING MISSED BUT WE NEED TO KNOW IF IT WAS MISSED.

YOU NEED A LOT OF SNOW. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S A COLOR CODE ON THESE AND MY COLORS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OFF BUT THE BROWN PROJECTS ARE CONTINUING.

THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT YOU THEY'RE JUST ONGOING. THE GREEN ONES WILL BE CARRYOVER FROM THE CURRENT THE CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN OBVIOUSLY THE THE THE ONES THAT AREN'T COLOR CODED OR THE ARE THE NEW PROJECTS. SO LET'S LET'S GET INTO IT.

THE FIRST PROJECT IS WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE FOLKS SAY AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING. SO WE'LL IDENTIFY THE THE FOCUS AREA.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE NEXT THING UNDER STRATEGIC INITIATIVE IS THE PROJECT THERE'S A PROJECT DESCRIPTION IT'LL SAY WHAT DEPARTMENTS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT WHAT FISCAL YEAR IT'S GOING TO START AND THEN WHAT FISCAL YEAR IT'S GOING TO END. SO ALL OF THOSE ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION. SO I'M JUST GOING TO START ON THE FIRST ONE WHICH IS DEVELOP A HOUSING PLAN THE DESCRIPTION THAT IS HOUSING ANALYSIS TO COMPLY WITH STATE REQUIREMENTS ,GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT 25 IT STARTS 25 IT ENDS THE QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE COUNCIL THE THE SECOND ONE IS AFFORDABLE IS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND THAT'S EVALUATE THE THE NEIGHBOR ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OFFER OPTIONS FOR CREATING A AND CONSIDERING A SLIDING SCALE I WOULDN'T READ ALL IT TO YOU YOU CAN READ IN THAT'S GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND THAT'S ALSO STARTS IN 25 BINS AND 25 DO YOU WANT TO JUST LOOK AT WHAT SIZE ONE LITTLE BLACK BLOCK AT A TIME YOU MEAN THE WHOLE SCREEN? OH OR NOT GOING TO QUIT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE CARRYOVERS IN HERE TOO BECAUSE THAT 87 RATIO IS ONE.

YEAH THE CARRYOVERS ARE GREEN WE'RE NOT DOWN TO THAT ONE YET. YEAH AND AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY WHEN WE SEE CONTINUOUS THOSE ARE ITEMS WHERE WE MAY BE WORKING ON IT BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE A VALUE OF COUNCIL THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON LIKE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT'S GOING TO STAY IN THERE UNTIL COUNCIL TELLS US THAT EVER NEEDS TO PROBABLY COME OUT IT'S NOT AN ADDED WEIGHT ON YOUR SHOULDER IT'S JUST SOMETHING YOUR IT'S MORE OF IT'S MORE OF A REMINDER TO US THAT IT'S STILL A PRIORITY FOR COUNCIL.

CORRECT? WE'LL GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THAT WHEN IT COMES UP . RIGHT. SO IT COMES BACK TO YOU WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US TOO, RIGHT? YOU NEVER KNOW. YOU MIGHT CHANGE YOUR MIND.

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SO THERE ARE SEVEN PROJECTS UNDER AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING AND AGAIN THE GREEN ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CONTINUING EVEN THIS ONE DOESN'T INDICATE IT AND REMEMBER IF IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, AMENDMENTS FOR EXAMPLE THAT IS UNDER COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE EVEN THOUGH IT MAY HAVE A CONNECTION TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO FIRE OFF YOUR QUESTION AND THEN I'LL FIRE OFF AND THEN HEATHER, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN. SO ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD IS WE KNOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS BEEN A FOCUS HERE AND THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS BOSTON'S ADDRESS IT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT IS TRYING TO GET THE DEVELOPERS IN THOSE WHO BUILD BELOW A CERTAIN ARMY THRESHOLD AND SO LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES OF OTHER AREAS, MANY HAVE ADOPTED A MODEL OF TINY HOMES CONSTRUCTIONS AND IT'S NOT THE TRADITIONAL SENSE OF ONES THAT ARE PULLED IN ON THE TRAILER BUT THEY'RE ACTUAL SMALLER SQUARE FOOTPRINTS THAT HAVE CONCRETE FOUNDATION. THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, SEWER, YOU KNOW, HEATING IN THERE, ALL OF THAT AND IT'S SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE HOW DO WE HOW AND WHERE DO WE PUT THAT IN SO POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE CONSIDERING THAT WE WOULD INCENTIVIZE AND FOR RESIDENTS WHO ARE ABLE TO MAYBE GET A MORTGAGE OR SOMETHING FOR THAT AMOUNT KNOWS THAT BLUFFTON AREA ALSO ALLOWS IT THERE THERE IS THE CORE OF IT MAY BE RIGHT THERE YEAH IF YOU IF THERE'S SOMETHING HAVE ABOUT HOUSING TYPES THAT SAY THEY'RE IN THE GREEN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPES I CAN GO AHEAD KEVIN SO WE'RE AWARE OF THAT AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT WAS THAT SAYS THAT ALTERNATIVE BUILDING TYPES WILL BRING THAT BACK AS OPTIONS IS ALSO THE LOT TYPES JUST BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE A VERY BIG LOT AND YOU WANT TO PUT A TINY LITTLE HOUSE ON IT SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO WE'RE WE ARE AWARE OF IT AND AND I'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING SOME RESEARCH ON THAT AND I THINK TO TO ADD ON THAT KEVIN HAD IN SOME OF THESE DESCRIPTIONS ABOUT YES, ALLOW DO WE ALLOW MORE EVEN DENSITY CAN YOU PUT A TINY HOME IN ADDITION TO YOUR YOU KNOW, YOUR OTHER HOME ON THE PROPERTY WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ON HERE THAT YOU WILL SEE ONCE WE HAVE THIS ALL FINALIZED AND DRAFTED FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL IS THERE'S THE PRIMARY FOCUS AREA AND THEN THERE'LL BE A SECONDARY STRATEGIC FOCUS AREA SO WE CAN ADD AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO IT. IT WAS ONE WE HAD MULTIPLE STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS IN THERE. IT GOT A LITTLE BIT CLUMSY ON TRYING TO KEEP IT ORGANIZED SO WE CAN ADD AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THAT SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE FOCUSES IF THAT ONE WOULD HELP. OH, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT FOCUS. I WAS SHARING WITH SOMEONE COUNCIL THAT THERE'S ALREADY A MODEL LIKE THAT THAT'S IN NOW THE I THINK FOURTH PHASE WHERE THEY STARTED WITH JUST SINGLE UNIT TINY HOMES AND ARE NOW DOING TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS TO ACCOMMODATE FAMILIES AND CONSIDERING WHERE WE ARE IT'S DEFINITELY A NEED FOR SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS HERE I MET WITH THE TEACHER THE OTHER DAY WHO'S TRAVELING EVERY DAY FROM AIKEN.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN HOMELESS SHELTER. SO I THINK LOOKING OUTSIDE THE TRADITIONAL WAY THAT WE'VE DONE THINGS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT AS WE TRY TO RETAIN PEOPLE HERE . OKAY. OKAY, GREAT.

SO MOVING OKAY. SO THAT IS THOSE ARE ALL OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

NEXT ONE IS THE COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE FIRST PROJECT ON THAT IS WHAT OUR COMMUNITY I WAS LOOKING FOR WHAT BRIDGET WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT AND NUMBER EIGHT YEAH.

SO WE'RE READY TO MOVE AHEAD. WE ARE READY. OKAY.

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OKAY. AND IS IT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS SAYING THAT WE WOULD OR IS IT AT A COUNCIL LEVEL THAT YOU SAY WE REALLY WON'T LIKE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS? WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS AND WE HAVE SHIPA AND WE HAVE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS THAT COULD COME TO THE TABLE TO DISCUSS IT. DO WE NEED TO BE THAT CLEAR IN THIS? I DON'T THINK YOU NECESSARILY NEED TO BE THAT CLEAR WITH THAT. I MEAN I CAN WRITE THOSE NOTES BUT I THINK WHAT THIS IS MEANT TO IS WE'VE HEARD STAFF'S HEARD WE'RE HERE THAT YOU WANT US TO WORK ON THAT AND THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS TO INCLUDE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND THEN WE CAN PUT ALL OF THAT TOGETHER LIKE WORKSHOP AT IT AT COUNCIL OR HOWEVER YOU WANT US TO DO IT.

BUT I MEAN IF IT'S IF IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE IT SHOWS UP ON THERE, WE CERTAINLY CAN ADD IT BUT WE I'VE GOT IT ON MY NOTES HERE.

I THINK IT'D MAKE THE COMMUNITY FEEL GOOD SURE INCLUDED BUT THAT'S JUST ME WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD IT NOW NOT UNLESS WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE AND THAT'S THOSE STAKEHOLDERS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ON ONE SIDE ARGUE FOR PRESERVATION ONE AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE ARGUE TO REMOVE STRUCTURES THAT SHOULD BE PRESERVED. SO LIKE IT HAS TO BE A PROCESS THAT WE CREATE SOME TYPE OF SEMBLANCE THEY ARE NOT LEANING TO ANY ONE SIDE NO BUT WE NEED THE EXPERT ADVICE. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID YOU STILL WANT YOU STILL WANT TO, YOU KNOW, VETTED SO THAT NO ONE CAN COME IN AND LIKE ARBITRARILY OVERTAKE THAT PROCESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING, RIGHT? YEAH. WE JUST ADVISORY THANK YOU HEATHER. HOW DOES THIS WORK IF I DO THAT? YEAH AND JUST LEAVE IT BLANK FOR THE REST OF THAT WORKS. OKAY SO THEN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A PLACE FOR IT WHEN YOU SEE THE FINAL DRAFT IT'LL BE INCLUDED BUT YOU'LL KNOW THAT IT'S HERE. YEAH. MAYOR AND COUNCIL DOES NOT WORDSMITH EVERYTHING. YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE ALL NIGHT, MAYBE EVEN CAPE MAY.

OKAY, SO BUT WE WON'T. BUT WE SHOULD. WE WILL WORK FOR FOR NOW YOU'RE THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT DAY OF THE YEAR THE RIGHT THAT BE ALL THE TIME THAT YOU WENT FISHING VERSUS FREAKING SORRY ANY QUESTIONS THIS IS DRAFT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A BIG DRAFT ON THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS THIS IS OUR LOWER ROLLING ROAD THEY SEEM TO BE OKAY.

REMIND ME BROWN AGAIN STEPHEN THE BROWN IS CONTINUE CONTINUE THINGS THAT THAT'S ALL I KNOW THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY. YOU KNOW THERE THE 530 WE'RE GOING TO KEEP LOOKING AT IT KEEP IT AND BRIDGET TO GO BACK YOU LOOK AT NUMBERS THERE 16 TO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE'S ACTUALLY A SPECIFIC THANK YOU HOUSING IN 18 IS I KNEW IT WAS IN THERE I JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER WHERE THE ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNIT OR ALTERNATIVE DWELLING UNIT HOWEVER YEAH AND YEAH ADDING ADDING THE ONLY UNIT. OKAY SO WE'RE UP TO WE'VE GOT 16 THROUGH 18 ON THE SCREEN ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE ON THE 19 UP TO 22 AND AGAIN 22 WENT AWAY. WE GO BACK TO WELL NO OH NEVER MIND IT'S CONTINUES OKAY YEAH

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OKAY SO WE'RE NOW 21 THROUGH 24 ANYTHING QUESTIONS, ANYTHING WE MISSED ODDS.

OKAY. MOVING AHEAD LOOKING AT OKAY LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON YOUR MOVE TO WHERE WE OKAY SO HE'S AT 2526 AND 27 RIGHT THERE ON 27. WE GET IT ALL AT A CARRYOVER 27 SEVEN DEALS WITH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THEM OUT BECAUSE OUR FIRST ONES COMING UP AND 24 UNLESS IT GETS EXTENDED SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE OUT HOW THE ZONING ADDRESS WHAT HAPPENS WITH ANY REMAINING UTO OR DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO WE'RE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND SOME OF OUR LEGAL BIWEEKLY LEGAL MEETINGS ON HOW WE'RE STARTING TO WORK TOWARDS THAT. SO WE NEED TO PUT A PLAN IN PLACE.

YEAH. AND AND MAYBE BRING AWARENESS TO US ONCE WE'RE AWARE HOW FAR OUT THEY ARE YOU KNOW JUST AN UPDATE SO TAB FIVE SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT TO YOU SAY IF THEY IF THEY'RE EXTENDING ALL OF THEM HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXTENDED TO THE LIMIT RIGHT NOW THERE'S THAT STATE COULD A MANDATORY EXTEND IT THEY MIGHT EXTEND IT BECAUSE KOVEN RIGHT WE'VE HEARD THAT YEAH YEAH THEY MAY ALSO COME TO COUNCIL AND SAY HEY WE'RE WE WANT TO MUTUALLY EXTEND IT BY TWO YEARS BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO FINISH EVERYTHING OUT AND THEY COULD BE EXTENDED THAT WAY BUT KNOWING THAT THEY'RE COMING UP AT LEAST THE FIRST FIRST COUPLE ARE IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'VE GOT A PLAN IN PLACE ON HOW TO HANDLE THEM AS THEY EXPIRE. WELL, WOULD THAT STILL WOULD COME TO STAFF OR WOULD COME TO CAPITOL COUNCIL HAVE TO COME THROUGH RIGHT.

EVERYTHING THAT'S IN HERE ULTIMATELY WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT THE HOW AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT TO Y'ALL TO APPROVE. OKAY.

AND YOU DID ALLUDE TO IT'S TAB FOUR IN YOUR BINDER IS ALL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT I'M SORRY TAB SIX IS TRYING TO GO BY MEMORY AND IT DID NOT WORK. ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT INFORMATION THAT WE PULLED TOGETHER IS IN THERE AS FAR AS LIKE THE DATES THAT IT'S GOING TO EXPIRE UNLESS THE STATE EXTENDS IT FURTHER AND THEN ALL THE ART USE AND ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU GET ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAT I'LL PRESENT TO YOU IN JANUARY BUT ALL THAT'S IN YOUR BINDERS TOO. SO DO THEY GO TO THE STATE MAPS FOR AN EXTENSION OR THEY COME TO US? NO, NO. SO WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO IS WHEN THE STATE WHEN THE ECONOMY HAD THEIR BACK IN 2008 NOW IT'S TEN AND 13.

YEAH SO THEY THEY PUT AN EXTENSION THEY BASICALLY STOPPED THE CLOCK ON ALL PERMITS BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY . THEN THEY ALSO STOPPED IT AGAIN FOR COVID BUT NOT FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FOR OTHER PERMIT.

SO IT'S JUST UP TO THE STATE AND THEN WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT AND SO YEAH BECAUSE IT HAPPENED IN EIGHT BUT I THINK TEN IS WHEN IT TAKES TWO YEARS FOR THE STATE TO DECIDE.

SO THE STATE COULD STATEWIDE SAY YOU HAVE TO EXTEND ALL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BY TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS WHATEVER THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST THESE PARTICULAR RIGHT. RIGHT. LIKE YOU KNOW NUMBER 26 WE COULD PROBABLY PUT SOMETHING THERE TO UNDER CONTRACT THAT WE'RE BUYING.

WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT IN SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOU AND PURCHASE THROUGH OUR

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I'M GOING TO ASK REAL QUICK 20 AND I ASKED THIS A LOT THOSE CROSSWALKS I MEAN WE HAVE GOT TO FIND A BETTER WAY TO ADDRESS THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWERS ARE BUT I MEAN YOU EVEN CONTINUOUSLY SEE THE SIGNS THAT STAND UP SAYS YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T. SOME PEOPLE SAY YOU CAN GET THEM IN SOME STATES WHERE THERE'S A STOP TO YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS INSTEAD OF YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS. I WAS TOLD THAT RECENTLY AND THEN A LOT OF THEM ARE KNOCKED OVER AND TORN UP AND YOU KNOW SO AGAIN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWERS ARE BUT AS WE GROW WE HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE. WE BUILD A WALKABLE COMMUNITY BUT AT YOUR OWN RISK WE'RE ALREADY INTO THAT RIGHT WITH WHICH CONSTRUCTION IT SAYS ON GO AND OR CURIO WELL THAT JUST MEANS IT'S NOT ALL GOING TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

SO WE MIGHT HAVE FUNDING AND START IT BUT IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE ON BEYOND THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR THAT'S IN THE DESIGN PHASE NOW, RIGHT? YES.

Y'ALL APPROVED THE CONTRACT FOR THE TO DO ALL THE STUDY AND START DESIGNING AND WHAT WILL COME OUT OF THAT WILL BE PROJECTS THAT BECOME MORE DEFINITIVE CERP PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH BUILDING COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE 31 THROUGH 35 ANYTHING WE'VE MISSED QUESTIONS I THINK I'D GO ON 30 AND MAYBE THEN JUST TELL ME BUT HOW DO WE TRANSITION THAT FROM OUR CURRENT WELCOME CENTER TO THIS AND KEEP THE BLUFFTON HISTORIC FOUNDATION ENGAGED AND OUR PARTNERS ARE WE GOING TO GET TO THAT? SO THAT'S WHY SORRY I HAD TO TURN IT UP A LITTLE BIT WHERE IT SAYS PLAN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER THE PLAN ON THAT TRANSITION WHAT WHAT THE WELCOME CENTER IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHETHER WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH HISTORIC PLAN BLUFFTON TO DO THE DOCENTS OR WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S TALKING ABOUT CONTINUE TO PLAN FOR THE COMPONENTS AND THAT AND THE FUNCTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO DO WITH THE OPERATIONS. SO WE WANT TO THAT'S THAT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING OF THAT.

SO ANYTHING THAT WE COME OUT OF THERE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL WHETHER IT'S FOR POSITIONS OR ESTABLISH AN HOURS AND POLICIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. BUT IF WE'RE PLANNING ON PARTNERING WITH THEM, I THINK THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT TOO. SO THEY'RE NOT PLANNING CORRECT IT UNTIL WE KNOW ALL THAT WE THAT THAT'S PART OF THAT WHY THIS WOULD BE IN THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE WE GOT TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WEB SITE UPDATE WE'RE NOT GETTING IN THE DETAILS BUT I KNOW I'VE TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER THE RIVER AND HISTORIC DISTRICT ARE HARD TO FIND AND I SEE YOU HAVE AN UPDATE BUT IT INCLUDES FOCUS ON THOSE TWO. OKAY MAKING IT MORE USER FRIENDLY IN GENERAL.

YEAH. OKAY EVERYONE GO TO TOWN NOW WE'RE GOING TO ECONOMIC GROWTH AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THE FIRST ITEM ON ECONOMIC GROWTH DEALS WITH THE WHOLE DISCUSSION WE HAD ON THE LOCAL ENTREPRENEUR WORSHIP AND BUSINESSES UNDER UNDER THE EARLIER DISCUSSION THIS MORNING . SO WE'VE GOT WE'RE DOWN TO 41 ON THIS ANYTHING THAT WE'VE MISSED FOUR QUESTIONS COUNCIL COUNCIL WELL I'M 36 I DON'T

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