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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY.
THIS IS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION BOARD WORK SESSION OF OCTOBER 27TH, 2023.
THIS IS BEING HELD IN THE MEDIA CENTER IN BEAUFORT.
IT'S ALSO BEING CONDUCTED BY HYBRID VIDEO CONFERENCING AND IS BEING LIVE STREAMED BY THE COUNTY CHANNEL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NEW SAFETY AND SECURITY GUIDELINES.
BACK BAGS, BACKPACKS, AND PURSES ARE PROHIBITED BY THE PUBLIC AT THE BEAUFORT COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETINGS.
PARTICIPATION WAS ACCEPTED THIS MORNING BETWEEN SEVEN 30 AND 8:00 AM BY SENDING AN EMAIL WITH YOUR NAME, PHONE NUMBER, AND TOPIC TO ROBIN WITH AY CUSHING BARRY AT BEAUFORT K12 SC US.
YOU WILL RECEIVE A PHONE CALL DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS WHERE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES ON ISSUES WITHIN THE BOARD'S DOMAIN.
AND THE FORUM IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES.
IF YOU ARE IN PERSON, YOU MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR ALSO FOR A MAXIMUM THREE MINUTES ON ISSUES WITHIN THE BOARD'S DOMAIN.
BUT YOU MUST COME TO THE DESK AND FILL OUT A, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT CARD.
PLEASE SEE THE BOARD CLERK FOR THE CARD POST.
MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE FOLLOWING RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THREE PENDING LEGAL CLAIMS AND ONE SETTLED LEGAL CLAIM COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA CODE ANNOTATED SECTION 30 DASH FOUR DASH 70 A TWO.
RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENTS COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA CODE ANNOTATED SECTION 30 DASH FOUR DASH 70 A TWO.
SO, UH, MR. SMITH, UH, COULD YOU TELL US WHO WILL BE ADVISING US IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN TERMS OF MS. CART? WAS MR. AL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
UM, WE'LL DO THE PEOPLE IN THE, ALRIGHT.
WE CAN JUST RAISE OUR HANDS FOR THIS.
A PLEASE SAY SINCE YOU'RE ON THE, UH, REMOTELY, PLEASE SAY SMITH.
WITHOUT ME CALLING ON YOU AFTER THE ROOM VOTES, JUST LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL.
WE'LL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
BUFORT COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA HAS SEVERAL JOB OPENINGS, MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, IT SPECIALISTS, LIBRARY ASSISTANTS, AND BUS DRIVERS APPLY TODAY@BUFORTCOUNTYSC.GOV BACK TO ORDER IN PUBLIC SESSION.
THE BOARD HAS BEEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND TODAY'S DATE IS OCTOBER 27TH, 2023.
AND THIS IS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION WORK SESSION.
SO, DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION AS NECESSARY OR APPROPRIATE REGARDING MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, MA'AM.
MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED THE FIRST READING OF THE REVISIONS TO THE BOARD'S PUBLIC COMMENT POLICY DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IF NO ONE ELSE, I CAN'T HEAR SECOND.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, NOT A PROBLEM.
SO WE HAVE THE MOTION ON THE TABLE.
UM, HAVE IT UP THERE OR YOU'RE GOOD.
ANY, UM, DISCUSSION MR. SMITH? YES, MADAM CHAIR.
LEMME START BY SAYING THAT I, UM, COMING TO THE ACTUAL COMMITTEE
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MEETING OF THIS DISCUSSION, IT WAS SO UNWELCOMING TONE OF IT, IT FELT LIKE IT WAS A PRETTY PREDETERMINED, IT DIDN'T REALLY NEED MUCH BOARD, UH, DISCUSSION.AND IT WAS EVEN SAID THAT, UM, BASICALLY THIS, THAT, THAT, THAT THE COMMITTEE MEETING WAS INITIALLY FOR PRETTY, FOR MUCH, UH, PRETTY MUCH COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, WITH AN EXCEPTION OF, UH, I GUESS WELL, UH, WELL THE, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT I GET, I KNOW THE CHAIR WAS TALKING IN TERMS OF IT, AND I JUST, IT JUST REALLY WAS BAFFLING BEING THERE IN, IN TERMS OF AN EXCUSE OF TIME.
AND THEN TO HEAR THE DIFFERENT CHANGE, THE AMOUNT OF CHANGES, UH, AND WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THIS NEW PLAN, UH, CAN'T SUPPORT IT AND I WON'T SUPPORT IT.
AND I DON'T LIKE THE TONE THAT WAS TAKEN AT THAT, AT THAT MEETING.
I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INAPPROPRIATE TO SAY, WELL, YEAH, WE WANT TO GET THINGS DONE.
AND SO WE JUST WANTED THE REALLY, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO, UH, TO KIND OF TALK TODAY AND BRING THE CHANGES THAT YOU MAY SEE, UH, NEED TO BE DONE.
TO ME, IT WAS TOLD BASICALLY THAT WE GONNA DO IT AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WHEREVER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, SO, AND IT, AND IT SHOWED.
I JUST WANT, UM, SAY THAT I, I DO NOT, UH, CONCUR WITH MR. SMITH'S ASSESSMENT.
THIS IS A CULMINATION OF TWO YEARS OF LEGAL RESEARCH, TWO YEARS OF DISCUSSIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WITH BOARD MEMBERS, UH, TWO YEARS OF LOOKING AT OTHER DISTRICT'S BEST PRACTICES AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH A WAY THAT MAKES SURE THAT WE ARE RESPECTING FREE SPEECH, RESPECTING, UH, THE CONSTITUENTS ABILITY TO SPEAK, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE PATHWAYS FOR CONSTITUENTS TO INFORM THE BOARD OF ISSUES.
UM, AND I REALLY, UH, DISAGREE THAT THIS ONE MEETING HAD A TONE THAT WAS UNWELCOMING, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET SOMETHING DONE 'CAUSE WE HAVE LEGAL LIABILITY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNED PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN FEEL SAFE AT OUR MEETINGS.
SO FOR US TO NOT TAKE ACTION, I THINK IS, IT WOULD BE MORE BAFFLING TO ME THAN WHAT WAS SAID IN THAT MEETING.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE READY FOR THE VOTE? YES.
UM, SO THE PEOPLE HERE IN THE ROOM CAN, WE CAN RAISE OUR HANDS FOR WHEN I SAY YAY OR NAY, HER ABSTENTION.
AND ONLINE WE HAVE, UH, I BELIEVE JUST INGRID.
SO IF YOU CAN SAY, UH, VOTE RIGHT IN YOUR VOTE AFTER WE DO THE VOTING IN THE ROOM.
ALRIGHT, SO IN THE ROOM HERE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UM, APPROVING THIS FIRST READING OF THE REVISION OF THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT POLICY, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
UM, NAYS? YEAH, EARL, UM, CHLOE WILL AND CARLTON.
SO IT'S, UH, FOUR FOUR, SO IT DOES NOT PASS.
NEXT, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, UH, ACTIONS NECESSARY APPROPRIATE REGARDING MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, MA'AM.
WE NOW NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
OKAY, SO THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA'S UNANIMOUS.
NEXT, WE WILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AND WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
FOR THE VICTIMS OF THE SHOOTING IN LEWISTON, MAINE, PLEASE BE SEATED.
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THE MEDIA HAS BEEN PROPERLY NOTIFIED.SO THE COMMENTER, MS. IVY ISAI, PLEASE COME TO THE DESK.
AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO DELIVER YOUR COMMENTS, AND THEY HAVE TO BE COMMENTS WITHIN THE DOMAIN OF THE BOARD.
MS. ALI'S TOPIC IS, UH, SEXUALLY EXPLICIT BOOKS IN SCHOOLS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WHEN THE BOARD MEETS FOR A WORK SESSION, THAT YOU PUBLISH THE START TIME FOR THE PUBLIC WORK OF THE MEETING.
IT'S NOT VERY CONSIDERATE TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO BE LEFT GUESSING WHAT TIME EXECUTIVE SESSION MAY FINISH.
SECOND, I'M NOT SURE IF ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE, BUT THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION IS PROPOSING A NEW REGULATION FOR LIBRARIAN CLASSROOM MATERIAL.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
PRIOR TO MAKING A DECISION ON THE BOOKS THAT YOU'LL BE VOTING ON TODAY, IT IS LIKELY THAT THE STATE BOARD IS CONSIDERING A NEW REGULATION BECAUSE BOARDS LIKE YOURSELF AND OTHERS CONTINUALLY PUT SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIAL BACK INTO THE SCHOOLS AVAILABLE TO MINORS.
I'LL NOW READ AN EXCERPT FROM THE BOOK.
ALL BOYS AREN'T BLUE BY GEORGE M. JOHNSON.
PLEASE KNOW THAT MY OBJECTION TO THIS BOOK IS NOT THE RACE OF THE CHARACTERS NOR THEIR SEXUALITY.
IT IS THE SEXUALLY EXPLICIT CONTENT CONTAINED WITHIN AS WE KISSED.
IT WAS CLEAR TO ME IN THAT MOMENT THAT HE WASN'T NEW TO THIS.
HE REACHED HIS HAND DOWN AND PULLED OUT HIS DICK.
HE QUICKLY WENT TO GIVING ME HEAD.
I JUST SAT BACK AND ENJOYED IT.
AS I COULD TELL, HE HE WAS TOO.
HE WAS ALSO DEFINITELY EXPERIENCED IN WHAT HE WAS DOING BECAUSE HE WENT TO WORK QUITE CONFIDENTLY.
HE THEN CAME UP AND ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO TRY ON HIM.
I BEGAN, AND HE SAID, WATCH YOUR TEETH.
I DIDN'T WANNA LET HIM KNOW I WAS INEXPERIENCED, SO I SLOWED DOWN AND TOOK MY TIME AND LUCKILY GOT INTO A GOOD RHYTHM.
HE DIDN'T KNOW I WAS A VIRGIN.
AND I DID MY BEST TO ACT DOMINANT, LIKE MY FAVORITE PORN STAR.
I WAS AN ACTOR AND THIS WAS MY MOVIE.
THERE WAS SO MUCH EXCITEMENT RUNNING THROUGH MY BODY.
THIS WAS MUCH MORE THAN LOSING MY VIRGINITY FOR ONCE I WAS CONSENTING TO THE SEXUAL SATISFACTION OF MY BODY.
THIS MOMENT ALSO CONFIRMED THAT SEX COULD LOOK HOW I WANTED IT TO, AND THAT IT COULD BE PASSIONATE AND KIND, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, FUN AND SATISFYING.
HIS BODY FELT GREAT IN MY MOUTH FOR THE FIRST FEW MINUTES.
I WAS BEHIND HIM WITH MY STOMACH ON HIS BACK AS WE KISSED.
AFTER A FEW MINUTES OF FUN AND GAMES, HE GOT UP AND WENT TO HIS NIGHTSTAND WHERE HE PULLED OUT A CONDOM AND SOME LUBE.
HE THEN LAID DOWN ON HIS STOMACH.
I KNEW WHAT I HAD TO DO, EVEN IF I HAD NEVER DONE IT BEFORE.
I HAD ONE POINT OF REFERENCE THOUGH, AND THAT WAS SEVEN PLUS YEARS OF WATCHING PORNOGRAPHY.
ALTHOUGH THE PORN WAS HETEROSEXUAL, IT WAS ENOUGH OF A REFERENCE POINT FOR ME TO GET THE JOB DONE.
I REMEMBER THE CONDOM WAS BLUE AND FLAVORED LIKE COTTON CANDY.
I PUT SOME LUBE ON AND GOT, GOT HIM UP ON HIS HAND, UP ON HIS KNEES, AND I BEGAN TO SLIDE INTO HIM FROM BEHIND.
I TRIED NOT TO FORCE IT BECAUSE I IMAGINED THAT IT WOULD BE PAINFUL.
I DIDN'T WANT THIS MOMENT TO BE PAINFUL.
SO I EASED IN SLOWLY UNTIL I HEARD HIM MOAN AS WE MOVED.
I WAS TOO, BUT THE PRIDE IN ME TOLD ME NOT TO SHOW IT.
YOUR TIME IS UP, MS. BERRY, DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, REMOTE COMMENTERS? ARE YOU READY? GO AHEAD.
HI, THIS IS DAVID COOK TO SPEAK ABOUT, SPEAK ABOUT, UM, POLICY THIS MORNING.
UM, MADAM CHAIR BOARD MEMBERS DR. RODRIGUEZ AND STAFF, THANKS FOR GIVING A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
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UM, RECENTLY I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. DALLAS AND HE SAID THAT IT WAS GREAT THAT I CONTINUED TO PARTICIPATE AND CALL IN, BUT THAT IT WAS A NICE CHANGE OF PACE FOR THE BOARD BECAUSE MY COMMENTS ARE A LOT LESS INTENSE, WHICH I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE CLEARLY THAT WAS THE GOAL OF THE BOARD.UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW ALL OF YOU FACE A RED LIGHT EVERY DAY IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE MY PUBLIC COMMENTS IN A BOARD MEETING FOR THREE MINUTES ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH.
UM, BUT FOR THE MAJORITY OF YOU THAT THINK I SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN MY KIDS' EDUCATION BY BANNING ME FROM SCHOOL PROPERTY, I'M GONNA LET YOU RESEARCH SOME OF THE STATUTE UNDER TITLE 63, CHAPTER FIVE, ARTICLE ONE, BECAUSE YOU'RE VIOLATING THAT STATUTE AND I, I'LL SEEK LEGAL REMEDY FOR THAT.
UM, MOTHER AND FATHER ARE THE JOINT NATURAL GUARDIANS OF THEIR MINOR CHILDREN AND ARE EQUALLY CHARGED WITH THE WELFARE AND EDUCATION OF THEIR MINOR CHILDREN AND THE CARE AND MANAGEMENT OF THE STATES OF THEIR MINOR CHILDREN.
THE MOTHER AND FATHER HAVE EQUAL POWER, RIGHTS AND DUTIES AND NEITHER HAS ANY RIGHT PARAMOUNT TO THE OTHER.
RIGHT TO THE RIGHT OF THE OTHER.
CONCERNING CUSTODY OF THE MINOR OR CONTROL OF SERVICE OF BEING EDUCATION, EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DECISION AND THAT INCLUDE YOU AS A SCHOOL BOARD WHEN YOU HAVE A RASH OF PARENTS PULLING KIDS OUT OF SCHOOLS AND TEACHERS LEAVING.
THE PROBLEM ISN'T THE PARENTS OR THE STUDENTS OR THE TEACHERS.
THE PROBLEM IS FROM THE TOP DOWN.
SOMETIMES I WONDER WHO WOULD EVEN BOTHER VOLUNTEERING TO SERVE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THERE'S ANYONE THAT SERVES ON THE BOARD NOW THAT'S HAPPY TO DO WHAT THEY DO AND IT'S REFLECTED IN YOUR DECISIONS.
RECENTLY, SIX STAFF MEMBERS DECIDED THEY WERE GOING TO LEAVE HILTON HEAD ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL, SIX TEACHERS LEFT, GOOD TEACHERS, I KNOW WHO LEFT.
MY SON'S SUPPOSED TO GO TO SCHOOL THERE NEXT YEAR.
AND THERE'S MAJOR CONCERN AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT SCHOOL IS FIT TO EDUCATE ANYONE'S CHILDREN, LET ALONE MY OWN.
IF YOU WANT KIDS TO STOP FIGHTING IN THE SCHOOLS, GET 'EM EXERCISING MORE, THE PHYSICAL EDUCATION NEEDS TO BE REQUIRED EVERY OTHER DAY IN K THROUGH 12.
SOMETHING TO CONSIDER PEOPLE THAT EXERCISE, CREATE ENDORPHINS AND ENDORPHINS.
MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY AND HAPPY PEOPLE DON'T GET INTO FIGHT.
YEAH, I KNOW I TOOK IT FROM A MOVIE IN CLOSING.
THE BOOKS THAT ARE BEING APPEALED TODAY THAT YOU'RE GONNA VOTE ON NEED TO STAY OUTTA THE SCHOOL AS A BOARD, YOU'VE BEEN CHARGED WITH MAKING DETERMINATION OF REGARDS TO THE READING MATERIAL.
YOU'RE NOT CHARGED WITH MAKING.
AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT TODAY, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND LOOK YOUR TIME? THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, MADAM SECRETARY MADAM CHAIR, I'M RULING THAT THE APPROVE THE BOARD, THE DETERMINATION OF THE APPEALS FOR THE FOLLOWING BOOK.
ALL BOYS ARE BY JOHN GEORGE AND JOHN CONFESSED BY COLLEEN HUBBER, WHO FOR THE SUMMER BY DALIA ADLER, HALF OF A YELLOW SON BY, BY CHIA NCII WAS BY COLLEEN HOOVER, KINGDOM OF BY SARAH MOSS LOLITA BY VLADIMIR NEKO.
NOVEMBER NINE BY COLLEEN HOOVER.
READ AT THE BONE BY JACQUELINE WOODSON, THE DUCK BY CODY INGER AND TOWER OF DAWN AND BY SARAH MOSS, MR. DALLAS.
SO THE MOTION IS TO, UH, UH, UPHOLD THE MATERIALS RECONSIDERATION COMMITTEES REPORTS ON THE BOOK APPEALS THAT WERE LISTED.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? CAN I ASK A QUESTION CHAIR? YES.
SO, UM, SO THERE, DR. RODRIGUEZ, UH, I, THE, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE PENDING CHANGES AT THE STATE LEVEL, BUT I JUST WANNA GET CLARIFICATION.
THE, WE ARE FOLLOWING THE CURRENTLY APPROVED STATE PROCESS FOR REVIEWING THIS MATERIALS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, WE ARE, WE ARE UTILIZING THE STATE'S PROCESS FOR, UH, REVIEWING MATERIALS.
THE, UM, UM, I BELIEVE WHAT THE SPEAKER IS REFERENCING IS THAT THE STATE SUPERINTENDENT
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WAS TAKING, UH, UH, UH, SOMETHING BEFORE THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE STATE SUPERINTENDENT TO DETERMINE WHICH BOOKS, UH, WOULD BE IN LIBRARIES.AND YOU'LL LET US KNOW, OR CORRECT SOMEONE WILL LET US KNOW IF THERE'S A CHANGE.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE PROCESS THE STATE HAS ASKED US TO FOLLOW.
AND IF IT CHANGES, THEN WE'LL BE NOTIFIED AND WE CAN ADJUST AT THAT TIME.
WE'RE FOLLOWING THE STATE'S PROCESS MODEL PROCESS.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SAY, I WE'LL DO THE ROOM FIRST.
SO ALL THOSE PRESENT IN THE ROOM, BUT MR. UM, NOT PRESENT AND, UH, VOTE, RIGHT? AYE.
SO THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH, UM, SMITH ABSENT FROM THE VOTE.
NEXT ON OUR SCHEDULE IS THE REVIEW OF THE SCHOOL RATINGS.
GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS THIS MORNING.
THE INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES DIVISION HAS TWO CONSECUTIVE PRESENTATIONS, REVIEW OF SCHOOL RATINGS AS PER THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT APPROVED SCHOOL ACCOUNTABILITY MODEL.
AND THE SECOND PRESENTATION BRINGS FORWARD SCHOOLS IDENTIFIED BY THE STATE DESIGNATION AS UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS.
WITH US TODAY ARE AN ARRAY OF DISTRICT AND SCHOOL LEADERSHIP WHO HAVE WORKED AT PREPARATION OF THESE PRESENTATIONS.
YOU WILL SEE WE HAVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS, SCHOOL PRINCIPALS, AS WELL AS DIRECTORS FROM WITHIN INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES BOARD MEMBERS.
AS THESE PRESENTATION, AS THESE PRESENTATIONS START, I WANT YOU TO MAKE NOTE OF THE ACADEMIC SHIFT THAT IS OCCURRING AMONGST OUR SCHOOLS.
YOU'LL NOTE NINE SCHOOLS MOVE FORWARD BY ONE RATING.
TWO SCHOOLS MOVED TO EXCELLENT, 19 SCHOOLS INCREASED THEIR OVERALL INDEX POINTS.
15 SCHOOLS ARE RATED GOOD OR EXCELLENT.
IF YOU RECALL, THE 2022 REPORT CARD REPORTED SEVEN SCHOOLS AS EITHER BELOW AVERAGE OR SATISFACTORY.
THE 2023 REPORTS THREE SCHOOLS OF EITHER OF THESE CATEGORIES.
THE DATA POINTS SHARED TODAY ARE THE RESULTS OF THE DEDICATION WORK OF MANY PROFESSIONALS.
WITH ME PRESENTING THIS MORNING FOR BOTH PRESENTATIONS WILL BE OUR DIRECTOR OF SCHOOL ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, MR. NICK FLOWERS.
SO, MR. FLOWERS, I'LL ASK YOU TO COME FORWARD FOR THE FIRST PRESENTATION, SIR.
SO WHAT I WANNA START OFF WITH IS THE WAY THE SCHOOL RATES OR THE WAY THE STATE RATES OUR SCHOOLS, IT'S BASED, UM, OFF OF AN ELEMENTARY MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THEY HAVE SPECIFIC INDICATORS THAT THEY RECEIVE POINTS FOR AS PICTURED, UM, AT THAT TOP PICTURE THERE.
AND HIGH SCHOOL HAS SEPARATE, UM, POINTS THAT ARE AWARDED TO THEM ALSO, AND THE RANGE CHANGES DEPENDING ON WHICH LEVEL THEY HAVE THERE.
UM, THEN THE TABLE BELOW THERE IS HOW THE POINTS, WHEN WE COMBINE ALL OF THE INDICATORS, UM, THAT ARE SCORED FROM THAT PICTURE ABOVE, WHEN THEY ARE COMBINED, THAT IS HOW WE DETERMINE, UM, HOW THE STATE WILL APPLY THAT RATING.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE STATE DOES NOT ROUND UP, SO EVEN IF YOU ARE, ARE CLOSE, THEY WILL NOT ROUND.
UM, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS NOT A CORRELATION OVER TO HOW WE TRADITIONALLY THINK ABOUT GRADES AS AN A, B, C, D, F, UM, WITHIN THE, THAT PERCENTAGE RANGE THAT THIS IS, UM, HOW STATISTICALLY THE STATE IS ABLE TO CALCULATE, UM, DETERMINING WHERE THE SCHOOLS ARE BASED OFF OF TRENDS AND ALL OF THAT WITHIN, UM, PREVIOUS RATINGS.
SO THE STATE HAS FIVE RATINGS THAT THEY LOOK AT, UM, RANGING FROM EXCELLENT, GOOD AVERAGE, BELOW AVERAGE, AND THEN UNSATISFACTORY.
SO THEY TAKE THOSE FIVE RATINGS AND THEY COMPARE THEM AND, AND ALIGN THEM BACK TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA PROFILE, UM, OF A GRADUATE, UM, TO, TO DETERMINE WHERE THEY'RE FALLING OUT FOR A SCHOOL.
HERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE OUR SCHOOLS FALL WITHIN THE VARIOUS RANGES.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, THAT BELOW AVERAGE AND UNSATISFACTORY, UM, WE HAD PREVIOUSLY, WE HAD SEVEN
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SCHOOLS THAT FELL WITHIN THOSE TWO RANGES.AND THIS YEAR WE, UM, RESULTED IN ONLY THREE SCHOOLS, UM, WITHIN THERE.
UM, FROM THERE WE ALSO HAD, UM, NINE OF OUR SCHOOLS THAT INCREASED A COMPLETE LEVEL.
UM, WITHIN THERE WE HAD THREE SCHOOLS THAT DID NOT INCREASE BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY EXCELLENT AND THEY MAINTAINED THEIR EXCELLENT STATUS.
SO, UM, SOME GREAT SHIFTS THAT ARE MOVING UP.
SO HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OVERALL RATINGS.
SO THERE ARE SPECIFIC INDICATORS THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE SET FORTH, UM, TO REVIEW.
AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE, UM, INDICATORS TO SEE, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW THE DISTRICT TURNED IT COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.
SO THAT CHART LOOKS AT THE SPECIFIC RATING SCORE ON THE REPORT CARD.
SO THE, THE STATE DOES NOT APPLY A DISTRICT RATING, UM, FOR US HOLISTICALLY.
SO IF WE WERE TO AVERAGE OUT OUR SCHOOL POINTS, THEN WE DID HAVE, UM, AN INCREASE OF 1% COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.
AND, AND IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE WAY THAT THE RATINGS ARE DETERMINED, UM, THOSE SHIFTS ARE NOT ALWAYS, UM, GONNA, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THE, THE MAJOR SHIFTS UPWARD BECAUSE OF HOW WE HAVE TO AVERAGE THEM OUT.
AND, AND THE STATE DETERMINES THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES.
SO FOR THE FIRST INDICATOR IS ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT.
THIS INDICATOR IS MADE UP OF ENGLISH AND MATHEMATICS.
SO FOR GRADES THREE THROUGH EIGHT, IT IS HOW THEY SCORED ON SC READY, UM, FOR THOSE TWO SUBJECTS.
AND SC ALT HERE, THE CALCULATION IS BASED ON THE OVERALL, UM, UH, AWARDING OF THE CATEGORY WITHIN SC READY.
SO DOES NOT MEET APPROACHES, EXCEEDS AND EXCELLENT.
THAT IS WHAT WE LOOK AT THERE.
UM, BUT THEN HIGH SCHOOL, THEN THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT WHAT THEIR, UM, LETTER GRADE WAS FOR THOSE, UM, EOCS OF ENGLISH AND MATH.
AND WE DID SEE AN INCREASE, UM, OF, OF, UM, AN AVERAGE OF 4% FOR OUR ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT RATING.
UM, ON THE REPORT CARD, WE'RE PREPARING FOR SUCCESS.
THIS IS MADE UP OF SCIENCE AND SOCIAL STUDIES STUDIES.
SO FOR, UH, SC READY, IT'S GRADES FOUR AND SIX THAT PARTICIPATE IN SCIENCE.
AND THEN FOR HIGH SCHOOL IT IS ENGLISH AND, OR, I'M SORRY, IT'S BIOLOGY AND US HISTORY THAT COME INTO THERE.
UM, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT ON THIS RATING, SO ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT, IT IS WORTH 35 POINTS, UM, FOR, UM, ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND THEN THE HIGH SCHOOL IS 25 POINTS FOR PREPARING FOR SUCCESS.
SO THERE IS A, A DIFFERENCE IN HOW THAT DENOMINATOR PIECE FOR THIS IS SCORED, UM, WHEN YOU TRY TO COMPARE THIS TO ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT.
UM, I ALSO WANNA NOTE THAT WHEN YOU COMPARE, UM, LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR FOR ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT AND PREPARING FOR SUCCESS, IT'S NOT COMPLETELY APPLES TO APPLES OF A COMPARISON BECAUSE LAST YEAR, UM, FOR THE HIGH SCHOOLS, THEY WOULD'VE HAD THEIRS BASED OFF OF THEIR GRADUATING COHORT.
AND THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THIS GRADUATING COHORT WAS ONE THAT WOULD'VE HAD A MAJOR IMPACT, UM, FOR COVID, UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF STUDENTS THAT DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN AN EOC, UM, THAT EXAM.
SO THE STATE MOVED THIS, UM, REPORT CARD TO A, WHAT THEY'RE CALLING A MODIFIED IN YEAR REPORTING.
SO THEY BASICALLY GRABBED EVERY EOC SCORE FOR A HIGH SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOLER ENROLLED IN THEIR SCHOOL, AND THEY APPLIED THAT TO THE REPORT CARD.
SO LAST YEAR WAS COHORT THIS YEAR WAS THAT MODIFIED END YEAR.
AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, THEY'LL USE IT AS AN END YEAR REPORTING.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THE EOC SCORES ON THE REPORT CARD IN THE FUTURE, IT'LL BE THE STUDENTS THAT TOOK IT THAT ACTUAL SCHOOL YEAR, REGARDLESS OF WHAT GRADE LEVEL THEY ARE IN.
FOR THE STUDENT PROGRESS INDICATOR HERE, UM, WE REMAINED STEADY AT THAT 48% OF, UM, AWARDING OF THE POINTS.
THIS IS ONLY, UH, ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT RECEIVE POINTS HERE, AND THEY RECEIVE 35 POINTS.
SO THIS ONE IS BASED OFF OF ELA AND MATH, AND IT'S BASED OFF OF GROWTH.
SO THEY USE A NORMED REFERENCE APPROACH, AND WITHIN THERE THEY TAKE THE CALCULATION OF HOW OUR STUDENTS PERFORMED LAST YEAR IN COMPARISON TO HOW THEY WENT.
AND, UH, THEY GREW TO THIS SCHOOL YEAR IN COMPARISON TO THE ENTIRE STATE.
SO THEY LOOKED AT ALL STUDENTS TO COME UP WITH THAT, AND THEN THEY GO IN AND THEY DRILL IT DOWN TO WHO THE BOTTOM 20% OF OUR STUDENTS WERE ON THE PREVIOUS SCHOOL YEAR AND HOW THE BOTTOM 20% GREW TO THIS UPCOMING YEAR OR TO THIS SCHOOL YEAR.
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AND THEN THEY COMBINE THOSE TOGETHER TO DETERMINE THE STUDENT PROGRESS RATING.WITH THAT, I DO WANNA MAKE NOTE THOUGH, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO START HEARING ABOUT CHANGES TO HOW WE REPORT STUDENT GROWTH.
SO, AND IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE REPORT CARD ONLINE, THAT MODEL, UM, IS BEING PHASED OUT.
SO THIS WAS THE LAST REPORT CARD YEAR FOR THAT MODEL.
SO THAT'S BASED OFF OF A NORM REFERENCED APPROACH.
THE STATE IS NOW MOVING TO A CRITERION REFERENCED APPROACH FOR THE ASSESSMENT.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT NORM VERSUS CRITERION, IT'S NOT A CHANGE IN THE ASSESSMENT, IT'S A CHANGE IN THE INTERPRETATION OF THE ASSESSMENT DATA AND HOW THAT'S BEING USED.
SO THINK THIS MODEL ON THIS INDICATOR, IT'S LOOKING AT STUDENTS TO ALL THINK THE BELL CURVE.
WHEREAS AS WE SHIFT NOW TO THIS COMING REPORT CARD, IT'LL BE THE CRITERION REFERENCE WHERE YOU'RE COMPARING THE STUDENT BACK TO THE STANDARD.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE SPECIFIC STUDENT IS, THIS IS WHAT THEIR SPECIFIC TARGET IS FOR GROWTH FOR THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR THAT WE NEED TO HIT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO BE AWARDED POINTS WITHIN THIS INDICATOR.
SO DO WANNA MAKE NOTE THAT YOU MAY HEAR SOME OF THE SCHOOLS TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE WAY THAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT GROWTH.
AND IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE A SHIFT IN THIS INDICATOR FOR HOW WE WILL, UM, FOCUS IN ON GROWTH THERE, AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE TRAINING THERE.
UM, WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE BEHIND THE NUMERICAL CHANGE FOR COMPUTATION? SO THEY REALLY WANNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT.
SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, PRINCIPALS MAY ASK, WELL, WHAT CAN I DO TO SEE INCREASES ON ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT? IT'S GONNA BE THE SHIFT AND DOES NOT MEET TO APPROACHES.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE THERE WHEN WE, I COULD SHARE, UH, MR. DALLAS ALSO.
THE STATE HAS SHIFTED INTO PERSONAL, UH, A PERSONALIZED LEARNING APPROACH AS WELL.
SO THAT WHERE MR. FLOWERS IS DRIVING IS THAT INDIVIDUAL ME METRIC FOR STUDENT INDIVIDUAL LEARNING NEEDS OF OUR STUDENT.
THEY'RE TRYING TO ALIGN PRACTICES AS WELL.
INSTRUCTIONALLY, HE DOES DO MATH PART THOUGH,
AND, AND THEY ALSO WANNA MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT.
SO THEY MET WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND EVERYTHING.
AND THE BIGGEST PIECE THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE THAT THEY WANTED IT TO BE TRANSPARENT, EASY TO UNDERSTAND, UM, TEACHERS TO KNOW THEIR SPECIFIC TARGET.
SO IT'S BASED OFF OF, UH, EVERY STUDENT THAT PARTICIPATED LAST SCHOOL YEAR.
WE KNOW WHAT THEIR SPECIFIC TARGET, WHERE THEY WERE AT, AND WE'LL KNOW WHERE TO GET THEM TO GROW.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO CALCULATE THAT.
R, MR. DALLAS, IN, IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM, YOU COULD HAVE, I MEAN, IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE STUDENTS WHO WOULD MAKE A SIGNIFICANT JUMP, RIGHT? POSSIBLY.
UH, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT MOVING A LEVEL RIGHT, IT, IT MAY NOT BE RECOGNIZED AS THE GROWTH.
UH, AND SO, SO I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT A WAY TO CAPTURE, UH, TO CAPTURE MORE, UH, STUDENTS', UH, GROWTH MORE ACCURATELY, I THINK.
SO THIS IS THE GRADUATION RATE INDICATOR.
SO HERE, THE CHART THAT'S PICTURED THERE IS FOCUSED ON THE POINTS THAT ARE AWARDED ON THE REPORT CARD FOR THIS.
AND SO THERE ARE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES.
SO THERE IS A CHART THAT, UM, BASED ON WHAT OUR, UM, GRADUATION RATES ARE FOR EACH OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, HOW THAT CORRELATES TO POINTS, THAT'S WHAT'S PICTURED THERE.
OUR GRADUATION RATE FOR THE DISTRICT, THOUGH, UM, TO HONE IN ONTO THERE IS 87.2%, AND THAT IS AN INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
SO, UM, OF THIS PAST COHORT, WE DID HAVE AN INCREASE THERE, WHICH IS WHY YOU ALSO SAW THEN, ON THE AVERAGE OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS EARNING POINTS ON THIS INDICATOR WAS UP, UM, BY THAT 1% POINT THERE ALSO.
SO JUST WANTED TO DELINEATE THE DIFFERENCE THAT THAT 73% CORRELATES TO THE AWARDING OF POINTS ON THE REPORT CARD.
I ALSO WANNA MAKE NOTE JUST QUICKLY THAT, UM, THE STATE IS ALSO MAKING ANOTHER CHANGE TO THE REPORT CARD FOR HIGH SCHOOLS, AND THAT WILL BE CONNECTED BACK TO THE GRADUATION RATE INDICATOR THAT, UM, THIS SCHOOL YEAR, THEY ARE GOING TO BE WHAT THEY'RE CALLING THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT SUCCESS RATE INDICATOR.
AND SO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS THAT THEY WANT TO ENSURE THAT ALL STUDENTS IN HIGH SCHOOL ARE ON TRACK TO GRADUATE.
SO THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT EACH YEAR, A STUDENT WILL NEED TO RECEIVE, UM, SIX CREDITS AND THEN, UH, ONE MATH AND ONE ELA EACH YEAR OF THEIR CAREER.
UM, SO THAT WAY IF THEY'RE ACHIEVING SIX CREDITS A YEAR AND THEY'RE GETTING ONE MATH ONE ELA, THEN BY THE TIME THAT THEY GET TO GRADUATION, THEY'LL HAVE ALL THE CREDITS THEY NEED, UM, FOR ALL CREDITS.
PLUS THEY'LL HAVE THE ELA MATH THAT THEY ALSO NEED.
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TO, UM, FOR HOW WE'RE REPORTING TO HIGH SCHOOLS.AND THEN ALSO TO NOTE THIS GRADUATION COHORT THAT WE JUST HAD, YOU WILL ACTUALLY SEE THEM REAPPEAR THIS SCHOOL YEAR BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO THAT INDICATOR, THEY'RE HAVING WHAT THEY'RE CALLING THE, UM, FIVE YEAR SUCCESS RATE.
SO THAT WILL BE ADDED IN WITH THE ON TRACK TO GRADUATE.
AND SO WHAT THEY'RE WANTING IS, IF YOU HAD A STUDENT THAT DID NOT GRADUATE, THEN THIS IS THEIR CHANCE THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO GET SOME POINTS FOR THEM ON THE REPORT CARD.
IF THEY STILL GET A, UH, UM, A DIPLOMA OR AGED OR A SOUTH CAROLINA EMPLOY, UM, EMPLOYMENT CREDENTIAL THAT THE STATE HAS, UM, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET POINTS FOR THERE ON THERE UNDER THE PREMISE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T GET IT IN THE FOUR YEARS FOR THE GRADUATION RATE, THE STATE KNOWS THAT IN ORDER FOR STUDENTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL, THEY NEED TO HAVE A-G-E-D-A DIPLOMA OR SOME KIND OF A, OF A CREDENTIAL.
UM, SO THEY WANNA REWARD SCHOOLS THAT ARE STILL WORKING TO GET THERE.
MY QUESTION IS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO COMMUNICATE THIS TO PARENTS? I HEAR, I HEAR THE DATA.
I, I UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TELL THE PARENTS THAT THEIR CHILD NEEDS TO, WHEN ALREADY, I KNOW THAT WHEN THEY ENTER THE NINTH GRADE AND YOU START THIS PROCESSES THAT THEY NEED SO MANY CREDITS, BUT NOW YOU'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT'S CRITICAL FOR PARENTS TO KNOW SO THAT THEY TOO CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE TRACK THEIR CHILD CORRECTLY.
I THINK I WOULD BE CONFUSED AS A PARENT.
WE ACTUALLY HAD ACADEMIC COMMITTEE, UM, YESTERDAY IN THE CLOSING, I SHARED HOW WE HAVE COLLABORATION BETWEEN INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES AND STUDENT SERVICES WITH REGARD TO OUR SCHOOL COUNSELORS.
THIS IS A BIG WEIGHTLIFTING FOR US.
SO THE TRAINING OF OUR SCHOOL COUNSELORS, EVERYBODY WITHIN THIS BUILDING, OUR ADMINISTRATORS, IS A PLAN OF ACTION THAT OUR DIVISION IS DOING IN COLLABORATION.
SO WE ARE DEPLOYING TRAINING, GET EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THE UPCOMING MODEL.
THAT TRAINING HAS ALREADY STARTED, SCHOOL COUNSELORS AND OUR DIRECTOR FOR OUR SCHOOL COUNSELORS IS BEING TRAINED.
SO THAT GOES TO OUR SCHOOL COUNSELORS, AND THEN WE WORK WITH OUR SCHOOL'S EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS AND OUR LEADERS, DISTRICT LEADERSHIP AT OUR SCHOOLS FOR PARENT COMMUNICATION.
IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME WORK, AND THAT COMMUNICATION DOES HAVE TO GET OUT.
MI MRS. GORDON, YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
UM, I'M LIKE, MR. MRS. GORDON.
BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, UM, MANY OF OUR STUDENTS, UH, DOESN'T HAVE THE, HOW, HOW WOULD I SAY THIS? THE FOUNDATION WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATION, AND THE, THAT'S WHAT THE STATE SHOULD BE TO BE TALKING ABOUT.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT YOU HAVE PRE-K FOR EVERY STUDENTS IN THE STATE.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW, UH, JAPANESE KOREANS, EUROPEAN COUNTRIES OUTPERFORM US BECAUSE THEY HAVE A FOUNDATION FOR ALL STUDENTS.
SO WE, WE HAVE SOME STUDENTS THAT'S GOING TO ACHIEVE BECAUSE, UH, PARENTS, WE HAVE SOME PARENTS THAT'S GOING TO PUSH THEIR STUDENTS, BUT THEN WE HAVE SOME PARENTS THAT HAVE WENT THROUGH THE SYSTEM THEMSELF AND FAILED.
AND UNTIL WE HAVE THAT FOUNDATION FOR EVERY STUDENT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
WE ARE NEVER GOING TO, UH, CLOSE ACHIEVEMENT GAPS AT ALL.
AND, AND, UM, ONCE, ONCE THEY START ADDRESSING THAT, THE STATE HAVE BEEN CHANGING THE REPORT CARD EVER SINCE.
I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD EVERY YEAR, AND WHAT IF I GOT DOES NOTHING? SO, UM, I THINK THAT WE AS BOARD MEMBERS NEED TO ADDRESS THIS TO, UH, UH, TALK ABOUT THIS TO OUR LEGISLATORS, DELEGATION, AND ALSO STATE DELEGATION ALSO BECAUSE WE JUST, WE JUST KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
UH, WE, WE ARE NOT, WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING.
AND AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE A FOUND, OUR STUDENT DON'T HAVE A FOUNDATION, ALL THESE COUNTRIES GOING TO OUT ACHIEVE US.
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THANK YOU.STRATAS, THIS IS VERY, UM, ACTUALLY, IT'S MOTIVATING BECAUSE AS, AS MR. CAMPBELL HAS, HAS ALLUDED TO SOME OF THE INFORMATION, I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR 10 MONTHS NOW.
AND EVEN BEFORE BECOMING ON THE BOARD, THERE WAS SOME GROUPS WHERE ON, ON THE 2 78 CARTER THAT WERE LOOKING AT BIRTH TO FIVE, AND I'VE LEARNED, EXCUSE ME, UH, FROM INTERACTING WITH THE INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES DIVISION AND OTHERS, TEACHERS, WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE HUMAN BRAIN IS SO FAR ADVANCED BY THE TIME THEY COME TO US, AS MR. CAMPBELL IS SAYING, WE ARE PLAYING CATCH UP, AND THEN WE GET JUDGED AGAINST CHARTER SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS WHO DON'T HAVE THOSE SAME, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATIVE COMMITMENTS.
SO MAYBE ONE OF THE STRATEGIC THINGS IS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE PENETRATE THAT UNOCCUPIED SPACE OF BIRTH TO FIVE, AND THEN WE ARE, WE'LL BE COMPETING ON RELATIVELY EQUAL FOOTING.
SO STRATEGICALLY, THERE IS A LOT OF ACTIVITY, ENERGY, AND ACTION THAT'S BEHIND THAT NOW.
AND SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO PERSONALLY TO SUPPORT THAT MORE THAN HAPPY.
AND I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE MATERIALS, UM, SPENT TIME WITH DR.
STRATAS AND THE TEAM AT THAT TIME, SIR, IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT WE GOTTA LET PEOPLE KNOW IT AND WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE MOVE INTO SPACE THAT OTHERS CURRENTLY OCCUPY.
COLONEL GEIER, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
UH, THANK YOU, UH, FOR THIS REPORT.
UH, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, AS WAS MENTIONED, UH, EARLIER ABOUT THE STATE CHANGING THE RUBRIC AND HOW IT'S UTILIZED NOW.
I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, AND THAT'S CHANGED AT LEAST THREE TIMES.
YOU CAN'T JUDGE TRENDS IF YOU KEEP CHANGING THE DATA.
UH, SO I, I THINK THE MESSAGE TO THE STATE IS DECIDE ON SOMETHING AND HOLD IT AND HOLD IT FOR FIVE, 10 YEARS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN USE.
THE SECOND ISSUE THAT I HAVE, AND I'VE HAD THIS EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, I SEE GRADUATION RATES INCREASING, BUT WHAT I HAVE NOT SEEN IS STANDARDIZED TEST SCORES IN A-C-T-S-A-T ASFAB INCREASING.
ARE WE JUST LOWERING GRADUATION STANDARDS? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE DATA APPEARS TO TELL ME WHEN I LOOK AT STANDARDIZED TESTING VERSUS OUR GRADUATION RATES.
IT ALSO BOTHERS ME WHEN I DO LOOK AT THE STANDARDIZED TESTING, AND I SEE TWO GRANDSONS, BUFORD HIGH GRADUATES, BOTH SCORED 98% ON SAT IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT NATIONALLY, ONE SCORED AT 92 AND THE OTHER ONE AT 95, THERE'S ANOTHER GAP.
AND THAT'S, THAT BOTHERS ME AS WELL, BECAUSE WE COMPETE NATIONALLY, OR WE SHOULD COMPETE NATIONALLY.
SO THE TWO THINGS, LET'S GET THE DATA CONSTANT.
LET'S GET A TREND SO WE CAN DO TREND ANALYSIS SO WE CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUE, THE BASIS AND THE, THAT MR. CAMPBELL AND, UH, MR. DALLAS MENTIONED THAT THAT IS OUR ULTIMATE SOLUTION.
I AM, I AM CONVINCED THAT THAT'S THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION TO IT, BUT WE GOTTA HAVE DATA TO PROVE THAT.
UH, JUST, UH, YES, GUYER, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF YOU ARE, ARE RIGHT ABOUT, UM, AND WHAT YOU'RE HEARING TODAY IS A BIT ABOUT, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY CHANGES IN THOSE METRICS.
THERE ARE OTHER CHANGES, RIGHT? LIKE STANDARDS CHANGE.
SO SOMETIMES STANDARDS CHANGE AND THEN ASSESSMENTS HAVE TO CHANGE.
AND, AND, AND THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME AS WELL.
SO WHEN, WHEN STANDARDS CHANGE, UH, THEN THE ASSESSMENT HAS TO CHANGE.
WHEN THE ASSESSMENT CHANGES, THAT CHANGES THE METRIC, WHICH CHANGES THE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM.
SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE CHANGES.
IT'S NOT JUST CHANGES IN THE ACCOUNTABILITY MODEL, IT'S CHANGES IN THE, UH, STANDARDS AND CHANGES IN THE ASSESSMENTS THAT, THAT SORT OF PILE ON,
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I THINK, UH, ON, ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS WELL.SO FOR THE NEXT ONE IS OUR MULTILINGUAL LEARNERS PROGRESS INDICATOR.
SO THIS INDICATOR FOCUSES IN ON OUR, UH, STUDENTS' PERFORMANCE ON ACCESS SCORES AND HOW THEY PROGRESS EACH YEAR.
UM, WITHIN HERE, UM, WE DID, I, I, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE DISTRICT IS HAVING AN INCREASE IN POPULATIONS, UM, OF MULTILINGUAL LEARNERS THAT ARE COMING FROM A VARIETY OF COUNTRIES THAT DO HAVE A VARYING RANGE OF FORMAL EDUCATION SYSTEMS. SO BASED ON WHEN THEY COME TO US AND THE, UM, LEVEL OF EDUCATION THAT THEY HAD FROM THEIR HOME COUNTRY SYSTEM, IT DOES HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT THEN OVER THEIR TRANSITION HERE.
AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT HERE.
UM, WHAT I WILL ALSO NOTE IS THAT WE HAVE NINE REPORT CARDS THAT ARE REPORTED OUT THAT THIS INDICATOR IS OMITTED BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE AN ML SUBGROUP, UM, GREATER THAN 20 STUDENTS.
SO THEN THOSE 10 POINTS HERE ARE GOING TO BE REDISTRIBUTED, UM, BY FIVE POINTS, GOING TO ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT, FIVE GOING TO STUDENT PROGRESS FOR THOSE SCHOOLS FOR COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS.
SO THIS INDICATOR IS GOING TO BE USED TO BRING TOGETHER WHAT THE STATE'S USING TO DETERMINE IF A STUDENT IS COLLEGE READY OR CAREER READY, UM, WITHIN THERE.
AND SO I, I WANNA NOTE HERE THAT THIS IS BASED OFF OF THE GRADUATING COHORT OF STUDENTS THAT JUST GRADUATED.
AND SO THERE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE COHORT THAT DID HAVE AN IMPACT IN THEIR HIGH SCHOOL CAREER FROM COVID.
SO THAT, UM, COULD PLAY INTO, DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY THAT THEY, UM, WORKED WITH THEIR SCHOOL COUNSELOR TO, UM, GET THEIR COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS.
SO THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE VARIOUS WAYS, COLONEL GUY, CAN WE STOP AND GO BACK TO THE GRADUATION COHORT? MY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS, WHAT IS THE SAMPLING METHOD? HOW DO THEY DETERMINE WHAT THAT GRADUATE DOES AFTER HE LEAVES OUR SCHOOL? HOW DO THEY GATHER THAT DATA? DO THEY CALL THE PARENTS AND SAY, HOW'S JOHNNY DOING? WELL, THE PARENTS MIGHT SAY, JOHNNY'S DOING JUST GREAT WHEN HE IS NOT.
I, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S SAMPLED THAT IT MAKES, UH, IT PROVIDES US WITH DATA THAT WE CAN, UH, PROVE THE VALIDITY OF THAT DATA.
IT SEEMS TO BE, UH, ANECDOTAL AT BEST.
SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW THAT DATA IS DERIVED.
SO THE DATA FOR THIS INDICATOR IS, IS THAT, YES.
SO IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO FOR THE STATE, FOR A STUDENT TO BE DETERMINED TO BE COLLEGE OR CAREER READY, THEY'VE GOTTA CHECK ONE OF THOSE BOXES.
SO WITHIN THERE, IF A STUDENT, SO FOR SAY, ACT, UM, A STUDENT COULD SELECT TO DO THE ACT.
AND IF THEIR SCORE IS A 20 OR HIGHER, THEN THEY'RE CONSIDERED TO HAVE MET THE CCR, UM, REQUIREMENT.
SO A STUDENT ONLY HAS TO CHECK ONE OF THE BOXES, WHETHER UNDER COLLEGE OR CAREER, AND THEN THAT WILL SATISFY, UM, THEM MEETING THE, THE COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS INDICATOR.
UM, SO THAT'S THE ONLY METRICS THAT WE CAN USE FROM THE STATE.
AND I WOULD ALSO JUST MAKE NOTE THAT, UM, FOR CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION, UM, OUR SCHOOLS ARE DOING AMAZING WORK WITH THE OFFERINGS OF CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION.
IN ORDER FOR THEM THOUGH, TO BE REPORTED AS, UM, CAREER READY FOR THIS INDICATOR, THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE, UM, THE ENTIRE PATHWAY FOR THE CTE AND RECEIVE THE INDUSTRY CREDENTIAL.
SO IF THEY DON'T GET BOTH, THEN YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THEM REPORTED HERE.
UM, FOR THE REPORT CARD REPORTINGS THERE, IF I COULD SHARE MM-HMM.
SO, AND COLONEL, COLONEL GUYER, TO YOUR POINT, THE STATE ACTUALLY REQUIRES A SURVEY ON GRADUATES.
THAT SURVEY CANNOT BE ADMINISTERED UNTIL SIX MONTHS AFTER GRADUATION.
SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE TO WHERE YOU'RE DRIVING THE BUS TO, SIR, I WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
SO THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN UNTIL DECEMBER, AND WE CAN REPORT THAT DATA AT THAT TIME, SIR, BUT, BUT SURVEYS THAT ARE SENT OUT SIX MONTHS AFTER MM-HMM.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE STATE.
BUT, BUT THAT'S LIKE, UH, SURVEYS THAT I GET ALL THE TIME ON MY PHONE THAT I SAY, I'M NOT DOING THAT
SO I, I DON'T TAKE MUCH CREDIBILITY.
AND THAT KIND OF DATA, THIS DATA HERE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THEIR SCORES AND SO ON, DOESN'T
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TELL ME MUCH THAT I WON'T GET FROM A REPORT CARD OR IF, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T TELL ME WHAT THEY'RE DOING AFTERWARDS.ARE, ARE THEY UNEMPLOYED? ARE, ARE THEY ON WELFARE? ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, STILL LIVING IN THE BASEMENT WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR PARENTS? THIS IS, THIS IS THE CHALLENGE AND WE GET BEAT UP BY THIS ALL THE TIME.
AND ONE SPECIFIC, UH, MEMBER COMES TO US ALL THE TIME AND TELLS US THAT OUR DATA'S TERRIBLE AND EVERYTHING.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT, AND SHE DOESN'T KNOW THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE DATA'S GOOD.
AND I DON'T KNOW, AND I WISH I HAD A SOLUTION OF HOW TO FIND IT OUT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, UH, MAKING THIS A TOTALITARIAN STATE.
R OH, UH, J JUST THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA ADD IS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, UH, THE OTHER COMPONENT, I THINK NICK, UH, MR. FLOWERS MENTIONED IT, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF IT, BUT, UH, THIS, THIS COHORT OF GRADUATES, UM, UM, WERE, WERE WORKING THROUGH THE, UH, THE COVID ISSUES AND SOCIAL DISTANCING ISSUES.
AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, COURSES LIKE, UM, LIKE WELDING, RIGHT? WHERE YOU HAVE A WORKSTATION, OKAY.
UH, WHERE IN THE PAST YOU MIGHT HAVE TWO OR THREE, UH, GATHER AROUND A PARTICULAR WORKSTATION, UH, THAT, THAT, THOSE NUMBERS HAD TO BE LIMITED DURING THAT PROCESS.
SO, SO ACCESSIBILITY TO IT, UH, WAS MUCH MORE CHALLENGING, WHICH CAUSED SEVERAL, UH, UH, CAREER READINESS PROGRAMS TO, TO HAVE SOME DIFFICULTY WITH IT.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER COMPONENT, UH, THAT I WOULD ADD TO IT.
MR. SMITH? WELL, MY QUESTIONS WAS JUST ALONG LINE.
I JUST, WELL, THE QUESTIONS, BUT I WAS WONDERING, UM, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT WAS GOING TO BE THE, UH, PROCESS IN TERMS OF ASKING QUESTIONS.
WERE WE GOING TO HOLD THE QUESTIONS OR WERE WE JUST GOING TO, AS WE MOVE ON, WERE WE GOING TO ASK THE, ASK THE QUESTIONS TO MR. FLOWERS? LIKE, OH, GUESS WHAT WOULD HE REFER OR WHAT WAS, WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE? CLARITY.
SO IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE DOING QUESTIONS WHILE HE'S, UH, ON EACH, UH, AREA.
'CAUSE THAT WAS WHAT THE BOARD SEEMED TO WANT.
WELL, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO WANT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS WAS.
GAR WAS, OR COLONEL GARRA WAS TALKING ABOUT ME ON THE DATA.
I DIDN'T, IF I'M, I BEAT ME UP.
HE'S NOT HERE, BUT HE SAYS NO,
UM, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THIS DATA EITHER, BUT I CONCUR WITH DR, WITH COLONEL GEIER THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE DID? AND IT'S A MOVING TARGET.
LIKE THEY MAY HAVE A JOB OUTTA COLLEGE OR OUTTA, UM, HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN LOSE IT AND BECOME UNEMPLOYED TWO WEEKS LATER, OR CERTAINLY SIX MONTHS LATER.
SO, YOU KNOW, OR THEY GO TO COLLEGE.
I MEAN, I DUNNO WHAT THE DROPOUT RATE IS IN COLLEGE.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT, I THINK ALL OF THIS DATA CAN PAINT A PICTURE AND IT CAN LOOK AT TRENDS, BUT IT'S, IT IS, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GREAT, UM, MEASURE OF, OF WHAT THE SCHOOL IS SUCCESSFULLY DOING IN THE SCHOOLS.
IT'S JUST MORE, YOU CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF TRENDS.
NOW, I DO THINK AT SOME POINT WITH THE MORE ADVANCED DATA COLLECTION TOOLS AVAILABLE IN OUR COUNTRY, WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING CELL PHONE DATA ON KIDS THAT'S LIKE, THEY SPENT EIGHT HOURS, YOU KNOW, AT THIS LAW FIRM, UH, THIS WEEK.
SO NOW WE THINK THAT, I MEAN, THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING IN AMAZON AND GOOGLE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK THE STANDARDIZED TESTING THING IS GREAT.
'CAUSE IT'S LOW RISK FOR A LOT OF STUDENTS.
IF YOU'RE NOT PLANNING TO GO TO COLLEGE AND YOU GOTTA TAKE THAT ACT, THERE'S NO INCENTIVE.
PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WILL JUST ANSWER C FOR EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW? IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF OBSERVATIONAL BIAS.
AND THEN I THINK ALSO WITH SURVEYS, SURVEYS ARE A USEFUL PIECE OF DATA TO DETERMINE TRENDS, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAINT A CLEAR PICTURE.
SO, UM, I CONCUR THAT THIS DATA IS, IS TOUGH, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IN 2023, WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD PROXY FOR UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE GOING ON ONCE THEY LEAVE OUR, OUR BUILDINGS.
UM, SO I WAS ALWAYS WONDERING, DO COLLEGES SEND THEIR, UH, THE STUDENTS THAT GRADUATED FROM THE HIGH SCHOOLS, DO THEY EVER SEND THE, THE HIGH SCHOOL, LIKE THE FIRST SEMESTER GRADES OR NOT? I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
OKAY, WELL, THAT'S A GOOD SOLID WAY TO GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION RIGHT THERE.
THE STATE IS ALSO IMPLEMENTING THE NATIONAL STUDENT CLEARINGHOUSE, UM, FOR, FOR THIS YEAR.
SO WE WILL HOPEFULLY, IF THE COLLEGES ARE PARTICIPATING IN THAT NATIONAL PIECE, WE CAN GET DATA TO START COMING BACK FROM THERE.
AND THE STATE'S HOPE IS THAT IT WILL BE MORE ACCURATE DATA THAN SELF-REPORTING DATA TOO.
UM, SO THAT, THAT SHIFT IS IN THE PROCESS OF HAPPENING.
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SO HOW, FOR, FOR HOW LONG DOES THE COLLEGE SEND THEIR GRADES THE FIRST SEMESTER? SECOND, HOW LONG? I BELIEVE IT'S ON TRACK BECAUSE IT'S A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT FOR THEIR FEDERAL FUNDING ON THE GUARDS AS WELL.SO FOR THEIR ACCREDITATION PURPOSES, COLLEGES ARE HELD RESPONSIBLE, KEEPING TRACK AND FEEDING TO THE SENDING DISTRICTS.
IT IS PART OF IT, BECAUSE THEN THEY DO A RATING ON HOW OUR KIDS ARE READY.
SO THEN THEY ALSO DO A RATING ON HOW SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE READY FOR THEIR COLLEGE AS WELL.
SO THEY COMPLETE AN ANALYSIS AT THAT POINT.
MA'AM, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR STUDENTS, YOU GO AHEAD, YOU FINISH BECAUSE YOU'RE ON YEAH, JUST ON THAT SAME VEIN, WHAT PERCENT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING.
WHAT PERCENT, I HAVE TWO FOLLOW UPS.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR STUDENTS DO WANNA COLLEGE VERSUS DON'T? AND COULD WE ALMOST IMPLEMENT SOMETHING WITH LIKE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR SOMETHING WHERE EMPLOYERS WOULD REPORT BACK ON RECENT GRADUATES THAT THEY HAVE HIRED? SO WE COULD GET, UM, A LITTLE BIT BETTER VIEW OF THAT, THAT COHORT? DR. MAY, I, WE DON'T HAVE THAT METRIC WITH US, BUT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE BRING FORWARD BECAUSE THIS, THE PURPOSE WAS FOR THE SCHOOL RATING.
SO WE DO, I DO APOLOGIZE, MA'AM.
UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE, UH, ABOUT, ABOUT THIS, THIS DATA AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, I HEAR THAT AND, AND I, AND I CONCUR WITH SOME, WITH THE, UH, WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS, THIS IS WHAT I LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WELL, THIS, THIS, THIS IS WHAT I'LL SAY.
LIKE ONE TIME WHEN I MET WITH THE, UH, WITH, WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY WHEN I WAS HELPING RUNNING ATHLETES, HE SAID, MR. SMITH, THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS I KNOW.
HE SAID, I KNOW HOW TO RUN A UNIVERSITY.
HE SAID, IN TERMS OF YOU, IN TERMS OF BASKETBALL, I KNOW TWO THINGS.
I KNOW ABOUT LS, I KNOW ABOUT WS.
WHEN IT CO WHEN IT COMES TO WINS, YOU'RE GOOD WITH ME.
WHEN IT COMES TO LS, YOU'RE NOT, SO REGARDLESS TO HOW THE STATE MAY MOVE IT AROUND, WHAT I DO KNOW, AND WHAT I DO UNDERSTAND IS THAT WHEN OUR KIDS ARE EQUIPPED AND THEY'RE READY TO COMPETE, NO MATTER HOW THEY TAKE THIS TEST, SHAKE THIS TEST, CHANGE THIS TEST AROUND WHEN THEY HAVE THE EDUCATION COMPONENT AND THEY CAN COMPETE INTERNATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY, THEN NO MATTER HOW THEY TAKE THE, HOW THEY CHANGE THESE TESTS UP, WE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO COMPETE IN, IN OUR, IN OUR, OUR SCORES.
WE, WE WILL BE, WE WILL BE STELLAR.
SO I THINK IT'S A MORE OF, OF A TERM OF FOCUSING ON HOW WE CAN BETTER SERVE OUR STUDENTS AND HOW, HOW WE ARE IN THE, THE PRECISE HOW WE'RE IN THIS EXCELLENT CATEGORY.
THAT'S WHAT IT, WHEN IT, WHEN IT REALLY BOILS DOWN AND WE'RE REALLY SITTING THERE TALKING, I'M WORRIED ABOUT ALL OUR SCHOOLS BEING IN THE EXCELLENT CATEGORY AND NOT THE GOOD AND AVERAGE AND ALL OF THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE WHAT TEST THEY THROW AT US, WHAT BOOK THEY THROW AT US, I WANT US, I CHOOSE TO BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND KNOCK IT OUT BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S REALISTIC.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AS A COUNTRY.
OR MR. KIM, WHEN ALL THOSE TALK ABOUT WHAT THESE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE DOING, YEAH, THEY, I'M NOT SURE.
I'M SURE SOME OF 'EM, THEY'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT WHAT TESTS ARE THEY, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY'RE CHANGING UP BECAUSE IT COMES, IT COMES ACROSS WHERE LADY TOLD ME ONE TIME, SHE ASKED ME, UH, AND IT WAS MY FRIEND SAID, Y'ALL TEACHING THE TESTER? ARE Y'ALL NOT GETTING TESTS? TEACH IT.
NO, WE'RE TEACHING STUDENTS, WE'RE TEACHING STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GO AND HAVE SURVIVAL SKILLS TO COMPETE ANYWHERE IN AMERICA, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TEACHING.
SO, I MEAN, THE CONVERSATION IS GOOD, BUT TO ME THAT'S WHERE IT BALLS DOWN.
MR. EARL CAMPBELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? I'LL JUST, I JUST WANT TO, UM, TALK ABOUT GRADUATION RATE.
THE STATE DOES NOT HAVE AN ACCURATE, UH, GRADUATION RATE.
WE HAVE STUDENTS THAT LEAVE HERE GO TO OTHER, OTHER, OTHER STATES.
THEY GRADUATE, THEY GO TO, UM, OTHER PROGRAMS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE, AND, UH, THEY DON'T, NONE OF THAT INFORMATION IS GIVEN BACK TO THE STATE.
SO THE GRADUATION RATE, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE AN ACCURATE ONE.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GRADUATE DEGREE, YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
BUT, UM, AND UNTIL WE, WE GET ALL THAT OTHER INFORMATION, WE WILL NOT KNOW THE TRUE STORY.
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THE COMPARISON OF COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS OF WHEN WE LOOK AT STUDENTS WHO ARE BOTH COLLEGE AND CAREER READY, MEANING THAT THEY MET, UM, THE METRIC FOR BOTH CATEGORIES VERSUS THE STUDENTS THAT ARE ON THE, UM, OR SIDE THAT THEY, UM, CHECKED ONLY ONE OR OTHER OF THE BOXES THERE.THE SCHOOL CLIMATE INDICATOR IS A STATE SURVEY THAT THE STATE HAS DEVELOPED AND THAT, UM, EVERY SCHOOL IS REQUIRED TO ADMINISTER.
UM, AND THEN IT CAPTURES THE THOUGHTS OF PARENTS, TEACHERS, AND STUDENTS.
THE PARENT SURVEY IS NOT CALCULATED INTO THEIR SCORE, BUT IT IS OFFERED AND, AND PARENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE.
THE STUDENTS' RESPONSES AND THE TEACHER RESPONSES ARE CALCULATED INTO THIS INDICATOR BASED OFF OF, UM, ON THIS REPORT CARD WAS 13 QUESTIONS THAT THE STATE DETERMINED, UM, THAT THEY WANTED TO HOLD SCHOOLS ACCOUNTABLE TO, UM, FROM SCHOOL SAFETY TO PERCEPTIONS OF THE SCHOOL, UM, THAT THEY USE TO CALCULATE THIS REPORT CARD RATING.
AND WE DID SEE AN INCREASE THERE.
SO I ALSO WANNA NOTE THAT THE STATE DOES DO ADDITIONAL INDICATORS OF CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT, SCHOOL SAFETY, FINANCIAL DATA.
UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT CARD, YOU WILL SEE THINGS BEING REPORTED FOR THESE INDICATORS.
BUT I WANT TO NOTE THOUGH, THAT THESE INDICATORS ARE NOT FACTORED INTO THE ACCOUNTABILITY RATING REPORT CARD, UM, FOR THE SCHOOLS.
SO, UM, THEY, THEY'VE GOT THESE INDICATORS, BUT THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE OVERALL CALCULATION THAT GOES INTO THE REPORT CARD.
SO TO REALLY SUMMARIZE ALL OF OUR, UM, SOUTH CAROLINA REPORT CARD PIECES, WE ARE SEEING POSITIVE MOVEMENTS UPWARD ACROSS THERE.
UM, WE'VE DECREASED THE AMOUNT OF STU OR AMOUNT OF SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN THE, UM, BELOW AVERAGE AND UNSATISFACTORY AREA, AND WE ARE SEEING THE TRENDS GO UPWARD.
I ALSO WILL NOTE THAT THE, UM, SCHOOLS THAT ARE AK EIGHT BUILDING, THEY DO RECEIVE TWO REPORT CARDS.
SO THERE WILL BE A REPORT CARD ISSUED FOR THE ELEMENTARY AND, AND ONE FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, AT THE STATE SITE AND YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, WHERE ARE ALL THESE REPORT CARDS? THAT'S MORE SCHOOLS THAN WE HAVE.
IT'S BECAUSE THOSE SCHOOLS WILL RECEIVE TWO REPORT CARDS FOR THEIR SCHOOLS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, REMI, MR. CAMPBELL, UM, UNDERPERFORMING OR BELOW AVERAGE, UH, SCHOOLS, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE STUDENTS IN THAT SCHOOL ARE BELOW AVERAGE? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE THAT DATA? IT'S TOUGH DOING THIS WITH A TALLER PERSON, SIR.
WE DO HAVE THOSE PERCENTAGE POINTS AS WE GET INTO THE NEXT PRESENTATION, WE CAN PULL THOSE DATA POINTS FOR YOU, SIR.
COLONEL GEIER, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE, UH, NEXT PART OF THE SLIDES, LET ME ASK YOU HOW THEY RATE STUDENT VOLATILITY.
YOU GOT A STUDENT THAT COMES IN TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE TEST FROM KNOWS WHERE, AND THEN THEY TAKE THE TEST.
OR YOU HAVE A STUDENT THAT'S BEEN THERE WITH YOU ALL YEAR AND YOU GOT 'EM ALL TRAINED UP AND, AND THEY LEAVE.
AND SO YOUR BEST LEAVES AND YOUR, WHO KNOWS WHAT YOU GET COMING IN.
HOW IS THAT FACTORED IN? AND WHEN I, I'M THINKING OF OUR SCHOOLS WITH HIGH VOLATILITY, LIKE BROAD RIVER AND SHANKLIN AND SO ON, WITH A LOT OF TURNOVER OF, UH, STUDENTS, PARENTS MOVING IN AND OUT, UH, DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.
HOW IS THAT FACTORED, IF AT ALL? SO, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL FACTORS THAT, THAT WE COULD LOOK AT.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE STUDENT NEEDS TO BE ENROLLED ON THE 45TH DAY OF SCHOOL.
AND THEN THAT STUDENT MUST HAVE CONTINUOUS ENROLLMENT WITHIN THAT SPECIFIC SCHOOL TO THEIR FIRST DAY OF TESTING, WHICH WOULD BE DAY ONE 60.
SO IF THE STUDENT IS FROM THE 45TH DAY TO DAY ONE 60 CONTINUOUS ENROLLMENT, THEN UM, THE STUDENT COUNTS.
IF THE STUDENT IS NOT, THEN, UM, THEY WILL SHOW UP ON THE STATE, UM, ASSESSMENT DATA THAT YOU SEE, BUT THEN THOSE STUDENTS ARE REMOVED FOR REPORT CARD RATINGS.
YOU ALSO HAVE A, A, UM, IF YOU HAVE A STUDENT THAT IS NEW TO THE COUNTRY AND THEY'RE NOT LANGUAGE PROFICIENT, THEIR FIRST TWO YEARS FROM ENROLLMENT, THEY ARE REMOVED FROM THE ACCOUNTABILITY METRICS, UM, FOR THOSE STUDENTS.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE SOME, UM, OTHER SITUATIONS IF YOU HAD A STUDENT IN A GROUP HOME OR THEY WERE MOVED INTO A RESIDENTIAL FACILITY, THOSE
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STUDENTS CAN ALSO BE, UM, REMOVED FROM THE ACCOUNTABILITY ASPECT.YOUR, YOUR, UH, YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW, IS, IS A, IS A, IS A VERY GOOD POINT BECAUSE, UH, YOU'RE DEALING WITH, UH, ABOUT 120 DAYS OR SO THERE, OKAY.
OUT OF 180, RIGHT? UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE KNOW IS WHEN YOU DEAL WITH CHRONIC ABSENCES, CHRONIC ABSENCES IS 10 DAYS, RIGHT? AND THERE'S AN IMPACT FROM CHRONIC ABSENCES, RIGHT? SO, SO IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH, UH, 45 DAYS IN THERE, UH, OR 60 DAYS THAT, THAT, UH, ARE, ARE NOT, NOT THERE, RIGHT? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, UH, THAT IMPACT IS.
IF THAT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
I HAVE ONE OTHER FOLLOW UP AND TALK TO ME ABOUT SPECIAL EDUCATION AND, AND HOW THOSE SCORES ARE TABULATED AND, AND WHAT THE CRITERIA ARE AND, AND HOW THEY AFFECT THE OVERALL SCHOOL, UH, DATA.
SO SCHOOLS THAT HAVE A SEVERE, OR SORRY, STUDENTS THAT HAVE A SEVERE COGNITIVE, UM, DISABILITY, UM, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY THAT THEIR IEP TEAM CAN PLACE THEM ON THE ALTERNATE ASSESSMENT FOR STUDENTS OR FOR, FOR THAT STUDENT IF THEY'RE, UM, PERFORMING TO WHERE THEY CAN'T BE AT THAT GRADE LEVEL, UM, ASSESSMENT.
SO THAT ASSESSMENT THEN HAS COMPARABLE RATINGS, SO FOUNDATIONAL, UM, AND DIFFERENT WORDS, BUT THEY HAVE RATING SCALES THAT WE WOULD COMPARE TO, DOES NOT MEET TO EXCEEDS.
AND SO BASED ON HOW THAT STUDENT SCORES WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE CATEGORY OF THE ALTERNATE ASSESSMENT, UM, THAT WILL BE FACTORED IN, UM, IN COMPARISON TO THE CORRELATING PIECE, TO THE SC READY ASPECT OF IT OR THAT EOC ASPECT OF IT, UM, TO CALCULATE UNDER THE OVERALL SCORE.
SO THEY, THEY ARE, WE ARE STILL ACCOUNTABLE TO THEM, WHETHER THEY TAKE THE ALTERNATE ASSESSMENT OR, UM, THE GRADE LEVEL ASSESSMENT, MR. SMITH.
UM, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT, A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF THAT QUESTION THAT COLONEL GUY JUST ASKED, SO WHAT'S THE, WHEN KIDS ARE NOT COMING TO SCHOOL, WHAT IS THE, WHAT'S THE RECOURSE? HOW, HOW, HOW DO WE, WHAT, WHAT'S THE STANDING PROCEDURES FOR THAT? BE? BE, BE? BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT, BECAUSE OF SITUATIONS LIKE THIS HAPPENING IN, IN TERMS OF AFFECTED DATA, WHAT IS THAT YOU WANNA GET? GO AHEAD SIR.
SO THERE'S FIVE DAY INDICATOR, 10 DAY INDICATOR.
THERE ARE LETTERS THAT ARE SENT HOME.
THAT'S WHERE RIGHT AT 25 DAYS OF STUDENTS DETERMINE TRUANT IN BETWEEN ALL OF THAT.
MR. SMITH IS A REQUIREMENT THROUGH SOCIAL WORKER SCHOOL COUNSELORS AND MTSS FOR BEHAVIOR.
ACTUALLY THEY ALSO LAND WITHIN MTSS FOR ACADEMICS.
'CAUSE NOW THEY'RE NOT ACADEMICALLY MEETINGS.
SO EFFORTS ARE TO BE MADE TO REACH OUT TO THE FAMILIES FOLLOW UP.
ARE YOU STILL WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? ARE YOU NOT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED, WHETHER SERVICES CAN BE PROVIDED? OUR SPECIALISTS WITHIN STUDENT SERVICES HAVE A HOST OF ITEMS TO HELP FAMILIES.
AND, UM, THAT, THAT IS, AND ALL SCHOOLS HAVE SOCIAL WORKERS.
WE HAVE A DISTRICT SOCIAL WORKER AS WELL TO HELP.
AND WE HAVE PERSONNEL HERE AT THE DISTRICT WHO CLOSELY MONITOR ATTENDANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH STATE LAW.
SIR, IT'S JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, UH, YEARS AGO WHERE YOU HAD A TRUANT OFFICER THAT WOULD SHOW UP AT YOUR HOUSE OR TALK TO, TO, THAT, THERE ISN'T, THAT, THAT DOESN'T, DOESN'T REALLY EXIST.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS THE MECHANISMS OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM REACHING OUT, CONNECTING WITH PARENTS, SENDING THEM NOTIFICATIONS ON ABSENCES, UH, AND, AND, AND CONNECTING WITH THEM, SHOWING THEM THE IMPORTANCE OF IT AND, AND, UH, AND, AND TRYING TO GET THEM TO COME BACK IN, UH, TO SCHOOL.
BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT PART OF IT, UH, NOT THERE, AND THEN ALSO MY, AND TO THE SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION IS, WELL, MY, MY QUESTION IS EVEN SPEAKING TO THE, THE SPED COMPONENT IS H HOW, HOW, HOW IS IT THOUGH THAT SCHOOLS, LIKE, WHO SAW, WHO'S LIKE A, WITHIN A MILITARY DISTRICT WHO HAVE CONTINUOUSLY STUDENTS COME IN AND OUT? HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO KEEP THE LEVEL OF EXCELLENT? HOW ARE THEY, WHAT, WHAT'S THEIR STRATEGY IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, OF BEING ABLE TO CON CONTINUOUSLY TO BE ABLE UNDERST STAY ON THAT LIST? IS IS, I MEAN, IS THAT THERE NOT MANY SPED STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL? OR, OR, OR, OR WHAT, WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I I WANNA POINT BACK TO SOMETHING MR. CAMPBELL STARTED CONVERSATION ON, AND PART OF THAT IS THE READINESS OF OUR STUDENTS COMING INTO OUR SCHOOLS.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT SCHOOLS, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA RIGHT NOW TO SHARE MR. SMITH, SO THIS IS GONNA BE AN INFORMAL COMMENTARY TO YOU,
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BUT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE READINESS FOR ALL OUR STUDENTS.LET'S AT LEAST HAVE AN EVIL, AN EQUAL PLAYING START.
AND THEN LET'S DEPLOY TO GIVE OUR ADDED VALUE IN TE AT TEACHING AND LEARNING AS WELL, SIR, AND JUST, JUST TO ADD ONE OF THE, THE, THE, THE REAL CHALLENGES, RIGHT? IS THAT APPROXIMATELY, I THINK MI UH, MS. HUTCHINSON HAS SHARED THIS WITH THE BOARD BEFORE, BUT APPROXIMATELY 62% OF STUDENTS THAT ARRIVE IN KINDERGARTEN ARE NOT READY, ARE NOT READY FOR KINDERGARTEN.
AND, AND BY THAT I MEAN ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS BEHIND.
SO LEMME PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE.
THE TEACHER, UH, HAS HER CLASS MAKING ONE YEAR'S WORTH OF GROWTH.
OKAY? UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU'RE HERE FOR A YEAR.
THAT'S ONE YEAR'S WORTH OF GROWTH.
OKAY? AND, AND, AND YOU HAVE THAT IN SOME CASES YOU MIGHT HAVE, UH, A CLASS THAT MAKES ONE, UH, POINT 10 YEARS WORTH OF GROWTH.
SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST A YEAR'S WORTH OF GROWTH THAT, THAT MAYBE THAT CLASS MADE.
LET'S JUST SAY FOR DISCUSSION, CLASS HAS 1.25 A YEAR AND A QUARTERS WORTH OF GROWTH.
BUT A YEAR AND A QUARTER AT THAT RATE, IT WOULD TAKE FOUR YEARS TO GET THE CHILD TO CATCH UP ONE YEAR.
AND IF THEY'RE A CHILD THAT'S BEEN TWO YEARS, AT THAT RATE, IT WOULD TAKE EIGHT YEARS.
SO ESSENTIALLY MM-HMM,
I'M SORRY, THAT IS WHAT A BIRTH TO FIVE CAN DO, RIGHT? BECAUSE, BECAUSE WHAT THAT DOES IS IT, IT HELPS ELEVATE THE INCOMING CHILD BEFORE THEY EVEN HIT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, RIGHT? AT, AT, UH, AT, AT KINDERGARTEN, UH, HOPEFULLY TO ON GRADE LEVEL.
AND THEN YOU'RE NOT, THEN YOU'RE NOT FACING 62% AT ONE OR TWO YEARS.
BUT JUST IN, IN, IN TERMS OF THAT, I ALMOST FEEL THAT WE'RE STILL COMPARING, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE KIND OF, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APPLES AND ORANGES BECAUSE THE, THE FACT OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET OUT AND, AND, AND UNDERSTAND IS, EVEN THOUGH STILL WITH, WITH THAT, ARE WE SAYING THAT THERE ARE STUDENTS THAT ARE IN THE LAYS ISLAND ON THE
AND SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO OBTAIN AND, AND SUSTAIN THE, THE LEVEL OF, UH, EXCELLENCE THAT THEY'RE DOING.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING DIFFERENT THAN, THAN OTHER SCHOOLS? AND, AND, AND, AND, AND MAINTAINING THAT IS, IS WHAT I'M IS, IS WHERE I'M GOING AT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE DIFFERENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT, THAT, UH, WHEN, AS, AS A SYSTEM, WE HAVE 62% OF KIDS THAT ARE COMING IN THAT, THAT ARE EITHER, THAT ARE BEHIND, UH, GRADE LEVEL AT KINDERGARTEN.
SO THAT MEANS, AND AND BY THAT I MEAN EITHER ONE OR TWO YEARS BEHIND, RIGHT? UH, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WAS REFERENCING.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS A VERY TIMELY POINT THAT MR. SMITH IS RAISING.
I HAPPEN TO BE READING AN ARTICLE THAT BASICALLY COMPARES THE MILITARY EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM VERSUS PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
IF THE MILITARY SCHOOLS WERE A FREESTANDING, INDEPENDENT UNIT, THEY WOULD BE NUMBER ONE OUT OF ALL 50 STATES.
SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CULTURE THAT HAPPENS IN THE MILITARY.
THERE'S DISCIPLINE, THERE'S DRIVE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING GOD AND EVERYBODY.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO BE AWARE OF, AND KEEP GOING BACK TO MY EXPERIENCE IN TRAVELING TO 71 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES OR WHAT HAVE YOU, IS IT IS CULTURE.
I BELIEVE ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE ARE EQUALLY ENDOWED WITH SKILLS AND TECHNIQUES, BUT IT'S HOW THEY USE IT WITHIN THEIR CULTURE THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
AND SO I THINK WHAT WE MIGHT BE, I'LL SHARE THAT ARTICLE,
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MA'AM, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD AND THE SUPERINTENDENT, PLEASE, AND EVERYBODY CAN DISTRIBUTE IT AS THEY SAY FIT.COLONEL GEIER, I, I OBVIOUSLY HAVE RAISED A SON IN THE MILITARY SYSTEM, WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT, BUT ALSO, UH, SERVING ON A SCHOOL BOARD IN A DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SCHOOL.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CULTURE IS SUCH THAT IT SUPPORTS THAT PARENTS DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE OF NOT PARTICIPATING.
BECAUSE IF THEY DIDN'T PARTICIPATE, THEY REPORTED TO ME AND THEY WERE TOLD EITHER FIX IT, GET YOUR KIDS, OR YOU'RE OUT OF HERE AND YOU CAN GO INTO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM OUTDOORS.
SO VERY DIFFERENT, UH, CULTURE THAT WE CAN'T, UH, REPLICATE DISTRICT-WIDE HERE, OBVIOUSLY.
BUT ONE THING THAT DOES CONCERN ME WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THE, THE GAPS AND, AND HOW LONG IT TAKES, WE'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT HUMAN BRAINS DO NOT DEVELOP ON A CONSTANT BASIS AMONGST INDIVIDUALS.
EVERY ONE OF US DEVELOP AT A DIFFERENT RATE, BOTH IN OUR OUTSIDE, UH, PARENTS, BUT ALSO IN INTERNALLY.
AND WE HAVE KIDS THAT, UH, ARE JUST NOT READY MENTALLY, UH, SOCIALLY TO START KINDERGARTEN.
AND WE HAVE KIDS THAT IN KINDERGARTEN ARE NOT READY YET.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE STUPID, IT'S ALL THE BRAIN WIRING HASN'T OCCURRED YET.
AND SO WE LET THEM GO FORWARD AND WE MAKE THE PROBLEM WORSE.
AND JUST THINK HOW HARD IT IS.
AND WE, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN STUDIES THAT SAID MOST BOYS DON'T WIRE QUITE THE SAME AS MOST GIRLS.
AND SO A A LOT OF FOLKS ARE SAYING, START, START YOUR SON AT A, AT A, A HIGHER, UH, AGE THAN THE GIRLS.
NOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I DON'T WANNA BE STEREOTYPICAL, BUT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT PROVES RIGHT ON THAT.
AND IT'S ALSO SEEMS TO ME, THIRD GRADE IS THE BIG GRADE.
AND, AND KINDERGARTEN TO THIRD GRADE, YOU LEARN TO READ.
AND THEN THIRD GRADE ON YOU READ TO LEARN.
AND SO WHEN YOU LET KIDS GO BEYOND THIRD GRADE THAT HAVEN'T LEARNED TO READ YET, YOU'RE PUTTING THEM AT A HUGE DISADVANTAGE.
AND IT'S A, IT'S CULTURAL THING.
YOU KNOW, YOUR KID DOESN'T, I DON'T WANNA NOT GRADUATE WITH MY COHORT OR GO TO THE NEXT GRADE IF I'M HELD BACK.
AND, AND WE'VE GOTTA CHANGE THAT WITH PARENTS AND WITH KIDS TO SAY, NO, NO, YOU'RE JUST, YOU JUST NEED TO WIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA GROW A LITTLE BIT MORE UPSTAIRS BEFORE YOU'RE READY TO GO.
AND UNTIL WE ADDRESS THAT CULTURE, AND THAT'S A CULTURAL ISSUE, UNTIL WE ADDRESS THAT CULTURAL ISSUE, WE'RE WE'RE SPINNING OUR WHEELS BECAUSE WE'RE JUST PUSHING THEM ALONG.
AND THEN THINK OF WHAT IT DOES TO THAT CHILD WHEN YOU'RE TALKING IN FOUR YEARS, HE'S, OR SHE'S CONVINCED, I'M JUST NOT AS SMART AS JOHNNY.
SO HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE CHANGE THAT CULTURE? HOW CAN WE FIX THAT TO HELP US? I TAKE A REAL STEP AT THIS ACHIEVEMENT GAP, AND IT'S NOT JUST THE RACIAL ACHIEVEMENT, IT'S A GENDER ACHIEVEMENT GAP.
AND LOOK AT OUR BOY SCORES VERSUS OUR GROWTH SCORES.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD STUFF IN HERE, AND, AND I SURE HOPE WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME, SOME INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS AND THEN GET, BUY-IN FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WE CAN COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION AROUND IF THE COMMUNITY AND PARENTS DON'T BUY INTO IT.
UM, COLONEL GUY IS RIGHT ABOUT THE MILITARY.
UH, YOU, YOU EITHER ABIDE BY IT OR JUST MOVE ON.
UM, BUT WE, ANOTHER THING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
MANY OF THE CHILDREN IN OUR AREA, UH, SOME OF 'EM GOES TO HEAD START, BUT IF YOU, THAT DEPENDS UPON YOUR SALARY.
SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN THAT ARE SITTING HOME WITH GRANDPARENTS, AUNT AND UNCLE.
RODE CAS SAID THEY'RE THREE OR FOUR YEARS BEHIND.
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CHANGE, THERE WILL BE NO, NO.YOU WILL NOT SEE AN IMPROVEMENT.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY INTERESTING AND VERY MUCH NEEDED DISCUSSION.
UH, I AGREE WITH COLONEL GEIER.
IN FACT, HE SAID A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SAY SO I WON'T REPEAT THEM.
AND WITH MR. UH, CAMPBELL, WOW.
THIS GAP, THIS INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING, YOU'RE GIVING IT TO THE WRONG PEOPLE.
UM, OUR MOTHERS, OUR FATHERS, OUR GRANDMOTHERS, UH, WHOEVER'S TAKING CARE OF OUR CHILDREN, THEY NEED TO HEAR THIS IN TERMS THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN THE CONVERSATION.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, FOR THE MOST PART, CULTURALLY, OUR PEOPLE THINK THAT OUR CHILDREN CAN READ BECAUSE THEY CAN DANCE.
THEY CAN SING THOSE SONGS, YOU KNOW, HEY, THEY CAN READ.
AND I'M BEGINNING TO THINK ON SO MANY LEVELS.
WE'RE NOT TEACHING OUR CHILDREN WHERE THEY ARE.
WE MAKE THEM WAIT, UH, FOR A DEADLINE FOR THEIR BIRTHDAY.
IF THEY DON'T TURN SIX BY SEPTEMBER THE FIRST, THEY CAN'T COME TO SCHOOL.
AND SOME OF THESE KIDS ARE READY.
SO THEN THEY GOTTA WAIT ANOTHER YEAR.
SO THEY'RE NO LONGER INTERESTED.
WE'VE PUT THEM OFF FOR WHAT? FOR WHAT? AND THEN YOU DO, WE HAVE THE BOYS WHO COME TO SCHOOL, THEY'RE NOT READY.
THEY'RE NOT WIRED TO BE READY, BUT HERE THEY ARE.
AND SO WHEN THEY'RE YOUNG AND IMMATURE, WE SAY THEY HAVE BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS. THEY DON'T, THEY'RE JUST BOYS.
BUT WHAT ARE WE AS A LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? WE'VE JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT.
TALKING ABOUT IT, AND TALKING ABOUT IT.
BUT TODAY I THINK WE WE'RE MAKING A GREAT STEP BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
WE NEED TO GET TO THOSE YOUNG PARENTS AND TALK TO THEM.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT CHANGING THAT RULE THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T TURN SIX BY SEPTEMBER THE FIRST, YOU CAN'T COME TO SCHOOL.
SO YOU MAY AS WELL JUST START SCHOOL AT SEPTEMBER.
UH, WHEN, WHEN YOU TURN SEVEN.
'CAUSE EVERYBODY BE SEVEN BY THEN.
WE'RE NOT DOING THEM A GOOD SERVICE.
AND I'M LIKE, I'M LIKE, COLONEL GEIER HERE.
UM, IT'S JUST SOME THINGS I CAN'T BUY INTO IN, IN THE DATA BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT BEING EVIDENCED.
BUT I DO KNOW THE MILITARY
UH, 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T STAY HERE.
THEY GOTTA GO TO ANOTHER SCHOOL.
BUT WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT BECAUSE WE WANNA ALLOW OUR CHILDREN TO BE IN SCHOOL, OR WE LABELED THEM AS BEING BAD OR DIFFICULT.
'CAUSE I KNOW WHAT KIDS I'M TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK WHEN WE STOP THAT AND TEACH ALL THE CHILDREN WHERE THEY ARE, IF THEY COLOR OUT THE LINES, LET 'EM, THAT'S OUR RULE THAT YOU GOTTA COLOR INSIDE THE LINE.
THAT IS, YOU CAN GIVE ME ALL THE DATA YOU WANT.
YOU CAN GIVE THE PARENTS ALL THE DATA, BUT YOU NEED TO BE TALKING TO THEM.
WE NEED TO BREAK THIS DOWN AND TALK TO THEM AND EXPLAIN THE IMPORTANCE OF THEIR CHILDREN BEING WITH US, THAT WE CAN TAKE THEM TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
BECAUSE APPARENTLY IT'S IMPORTANT TO SOMEBODY THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE THESE, UH, STATISTICS FOR SOME REASON.
BUT WHAT DO WE DO WITH IT? WE GIVE A REPORT CARD TO THE SCHOOL, AND IT REALLY DOESN'T REFLECT HOW HARD A LOT OF THESE TEACHERS TRY.
BUT THESE KIDS, I DON'T LIKE THE REPORT CARD.
I DON'T, I DON'T BECAUSE IT DOESN'T TELL ME OR THE PUBLIC HOW HARD YOU GUYS WORK, HOW HARD THE TEACHERS WORK, THE PRINCIPALS, I MEAN, THEY WORK 24 7, PUT
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A REPORT CARD SO THEY CAN GET A GOOD RATING.LET'S, LET'S FIND A SOLUTION WITH THE PARENTS, WITH THE COMMUNITY TO GET THESE CHILDREN AND CLOSE THE GAP.
THAT'S WHO'S GONNA CLOSE THE GAP.
YOU GUYS ARE NOT GONNA CLOSE THE GAP, MR. CAMPBELL KNOWS.
SO I'M GONNA GET OFF MY SOAPBOX AND SAY, I'M, I, I, I KNOW ABOUT THE DATA, THANK YOU.
BUT WE'RE THE WRONG PEOPLE TO BE TALKING TO.
WE ARE THE WRONG PEOPLE TO MAKE THIS CHANGE BOARD.
WE NEED THOSE OTHER 22,000 PARENTS.
MS. GORDON, UM, IN THAT SPIRIT, OKAY? UH, I, I'VE I SAY IT ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? UH, SCHOOL SYSTEM CAN'T DO THIS ALONE, RIGHT? THIS TAKES OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO GET BEHIND THIS INITIATIVE AND, AND GET BEHIND THIS, THIS WORK, UH, UH, AND DO IT TOGETHER, RIGHT? UM, WE CAN LEAD THE WAY, BUT, BUT, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED EVERYBODY, UH, UH, BEHIND THIS, RIGHT? AND, AND, UH, AND INVOLVED IN THIS.
UH, BUT IN THAT SPIRIT, I THINK OF, UH, TALKING WITH THE PARENTS ABOUT, UH, WHAT THIS MEANS.
NOT JUST THE NUMBERS, BUT, BUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, RIGHT? AND, UH, AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
UM, THE NEXT PRESENTATION WE'RE DEALING WITH, UH, UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS.
THERE'S A COMPONENT WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT, UH, THAT, THAT WILL HAVE MEETINGS WITH SCHOOL AND ITS COMMUNITY, RIGHT? UH, AND, AND THAT'S PART OF THAT DIALOGUE IN THERE IS, IS ABOUT REALLY THE WORKING TOGETHER ASPECT OF MAKING A DIFFERENCE TO, TO LIFT THE UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS FORWARD, RIGHT? AND THAT'S PART OF, UH, I BELIEVE A REQUIREMENT THAT'S IN, UH, IN THEIR RE RESPECT TO THE UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS.
SO, IN JUST A MINUTE, YOU'RE GONNA, UH, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT THAT COMPONENT OF IT.
UM, AND SO, UH, 'CAUSE I THINK YOU HIT A, A VERY STRONG CORD WITH THAT, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS SINCE I HAVE KIND OF BEEN QUIET.
SO CLEARLY, UH, YOU CANNOT UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPORTANCE OF PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT FOR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.
THERE'S JUST NOTHING AROUND THAT BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THE LEARNING OCCURS OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL AS WELL AS IN THE SCHOOL.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE ANECDOTE, ANECDOTE,
I HAVE THREE SONS, ALL OF WHOM WENT THROUGH THE BLUFF IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, KINDERGARTEN TO 12TH GRADE.
MY YOUNGEST SON, UH, WAS ALWAYS VERY ACTIVE.
AND, UH, HE WANTED TO PLAY THE VIOLIN.
AND HIS BIRTHDAY FELL JUST A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE SEPTEMBER ONE CUTOFF.
SO THE VIOLIN TEACHER, WHO WAS OUTSTANDING SAID SHE WOULD TAKE HIM AS A FIVE-YEAR-OLD, BUT ONLY IF I ALSO DID THE LESSONS WITH HIM.
SO FOR ONE YEAR, MY FIVE-YEAR-OLD, AND I, YOU KNOW, WENT TO THE TEACHER WEEKLY FOR THE LESSONS.
MY SON SPENT PROBABLY 75 TO 90% OF THE LESSON ROLLING ON THE FLOOR.
SO IN ONE WHOLE YEAR, WE ACCOMPLISHED TWINKLE, TWINKLE LITTLE STAR.
AND I SAW, I CALL, I CONTINUED ON FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, AND THEN HE OF COURSE LEFT ME IN THE DUST.
BUT ULTIMATELY, I MEAN, YOU DO WHAT IT TAKES.
AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE JUST A SIMPLE THING LIKE THAT, GOING WITH YOUR CHILD EVERY WEEK, AND, UH, DOING WHAT HE DID.
YOU KNOW, HE, HE SAW AN EXAMPLE AND, UH, ULTIMATELY HE, HE, UH, WAS A FABULOUS, UH, STUDENT AND VIOLINIST.
HE WAS AN ALLSTATE VIOLINIST, SO HE LOVED IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, COULD HE HAVE GONE TO THOSE LESSONS, UH, WITHOUT PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT? NO WAY.
SO I, I KNOW EARL ALWAYS PREACHES THIS TOO.
UH, JUST THE IMPORTANCE OF PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE CHILDREN HERE ARE NOT IN A, IN A RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE OPTION OF, UH, YOU KNOW, EXPELLING THEM OR WHATEVER.
IF WE DON'T HAVE PARENT INVOLVEMENT, WE TAKE
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ALL COMERS.THE SECOND THING THAT HAS NOT COME UP IS ATTENDANCE.
ATTENDANCE IS CRITICAL TO ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE.
AND I BET YOU ANYTHING, THESE SCHOOLS THAT ARE EXCELLENT PROBABLY HAVE THE BETTER ATTENDANCE RECORDS OF THE STUDENTS THAN THE OTHER SCHOOLS.
I'M JUST SPECULATING, BUT I'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT ADDRESSED.
GODS, I, I KNOW THE PURPOSE OF THE PRESENTATION WAS FOR SCHOOL REPORT CARD DATA.
THEY DON'T REQUIRE THE ATTENDANCE.
THEY DON'T REQUIRE PARENT INVOLVEMENT.
HOW MANY PARENTS HAVE PARTICIPATED X AMOUNT OF MEETINGS.
DATA DOESN'T REQUIRE DISCIPLINE AS PART OF IT.
I HAVE TO SHARE SOME, WHEN WE SPEAK AMONGST US AND WHAT OUR PRINCIPALS, AND I KNOW OUR DSS, THIS IS A PRACTICE, ESPECIALLY DEVELOPING THEIR PLANS OF IMPROVEMENT.
THESE ARE METRICS THAT ARE LOOKED AT, AND THESE ARE METRICS THAT ARE ALSO ADDRESSED.
I HAVE TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE HOW CAN WE, WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE, BUT IF YOU HA I'VE SAID IT TO YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS AND TO OUR COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE TO BE IN IT TO WIN IT.
WHEN WE CONVERTED FROM COVID, AND WE HAD SOME SCHOOLS WITH 78% OF ABSENTEE RATE, OR STUDENTS BEING, CHOOSING TO BE AT, UM, LET ME SAY IT BETTER, ON VIRTUAL VERSUS BEING IN SCHOOL, SIGNIFICANT SHIFT.
YOU HAVE TO BE IN IT TO WIN IT.
WE NEED OUR CHILDREN IN SCHOOL, AND WE CAN PRESENT THAT ATTENDANCE CORRELATION BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER METRICS ALSO TO BE PART OF THIS, THAT IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY WHAT IS THE SILVER BULLET? 'CAUSE IT ISN'T.
BUT IT'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS.
IT'S LIKELY A, A MAJOR FACTOR.
OKAY, I WANNA END THIS PRESENTATION PLEASE.
ONE MORE TIME WITH THAT SLIDE, MS. BERRY HIGHLIGHTING THE EFFECTIVENESS.
BRING IT BACK DOWN, MA'AM, I AM, GO BACKWARDS ONE, BACKWARDS ONE.
NINE SCHOOLS INCREASED BY ONE RATING.
TWO SCHOOLS MOVED TO EXCELLENT, FOUR OTHER SCHOOLS REMAINED EXCELLENT.
19 SCHOOLS INCREASED THEIR OVERALL INDEX POINTS.
15 SCHOOLS ARE RATED GOOD TO EXCELLENT.
WE HAD A DECREASE FROM SEVEN SCHOOLS BEING IDENTIFIED AS BELOW AVERAGE OR UNSATISFACTORY TO THREE.
AND I'LL GO INTO THAT CONVERSATION MOMENTARILY IF YOU JUST GO INTO THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
I MEAN, I, I WANTED US TO RECOGNIZE THIS ONE MORE TIME BECAUSE THE CONVERSATION IS STRONG, BUT THIS IS THE WORK OF OUR SCHOOLS.
SO, MRS. CUSHEN BARRY, NEXT PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
I KNOW YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS OF COMMUNITY AND MANY IN THE ROOM, AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE OTHER REPRESENTATION IN THE ROOM TO HERE TODAY.
UM, REGARDING UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU HAVE TWO SETS OF SCHOOL DESIGNATIONS.
MR. FLOWERS IS MUCH MORE PROFICIENT IN THIS AREA.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A QUICK SUMMARY.
UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS IS A STATE DESIGNATION.
IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE EXCELLENT, GOOD, AVERAGE, AND BELOW RATING AS WE SHARED WITH YOU IN THE PRIOR PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, MRS. CUSHEN BARRY, ONE MORE TIME.
AND IF WE COULD JUST PAUSE HERE A SECOND.
THE LAST TWO COLUMNS TO THE FAR RIGHT IDENTIFIED A CLAR, THE PURPOSE OR THE CATEGORY OF UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS.
IT IS BELOW AVERAGE OR UNSATISFACTORY SCHOOL.
WE NOTE THERE ARE THREE SCHOOLS IDENTIFIED IN THOSE TWO COLUMNS, IF WE MAY GO FORWARD.
BY SOUTH CAROLINA CODE 59 SLASH A 18 SLASH 1 65.
IT REQUIRES STATES, THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION TO IDENTIFY TWO DESIGNATIONS, UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOL DESIGNATION, AND THE SECOND ONE IS A CHRONICALLY UNDERPERFORMING.
WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOL DESIGNATIONS.
THIS SLIDE HERE SHARES WITH YOU THE REQUIREMENTS OF UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS.
AND IT'S GONNA BUILD ON A CONVERSATION THAT MRS. GORDON WENT INTO TWICE ALREADY THIS MORNING.
THE NOTIFICATION STARTING TO BUILD A CAPACITY OF GETTING PARENTS INVOLVED.
EACH SCHOOL IS RESPONSIBLE NOT FOR NOTIFYING PARENTS ABOUT THE RATING.
NOTIFICATIONS HAVE GONE OUT IN SPANISH AND ENGLISH ON AS OF OCTOBER 26TH.
THE SCHOOLS ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE, AND THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY, IS TO HAVE A HEARING.
THIS IS OUR HEARING TECHNICALLY BY STATE REQUIREMENT TO BRING INFORMATION FOR YOU TO HEAR TO THE BOARD.
THE HEARING GOES TO THE BOARD, DISTRICTS AND SCHOOLS ARE REQUIRED TO CONSULT WITH SCHOOL
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AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS.WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT MEETINGS ARE BEING SET UP FOR THREE SCHOOLS WHO HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS UNDERPERFORMING TO MEET WITH THEIR SIC, OPEN UP MEETINGS TO THEIR PARENTS AND HAVE CONVERSATION.
AND SCHOOL DISTRICT NEL WILL BE THERE TO SUPPORT.
OUR SCHOOLS ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO BRING FORWARD A TURNAROUND PLAN.
THAT PLAN MUST BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD.
YOU'LL HEAR A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
UH, MR. FLOWERS HAS DEVELOPED A VERY GOOD TIMELINE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD IN DECEMBER SO THAT WE COULD HAVE IT TO THE BOARD, THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IN JANUARY.
THIS SLIDE IDENTIFIES CONTINUED REQUIREMENTS.
IF YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE ROBERT SMALLS, WE HAVE HAS IDENTIFIED THAT THEIR PUBLIC MEETING WILL BE NOVEMBER 3RD, ROYAL BRANCH ELEMENTARY PUBLIC MEETING WILL BE NOVEMBER 6TH.
JOSEPH SHANKLIN ELEMENTARY PUBLIC MEETING WILL BE NOVEMBER 16TH.
IF, AND I DO WANNA JUST ON THAT LAST, BUT BULLET ALSO NOTE.
THE TURNAROUND PLAN WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU.
THERE'S A REQUIREMENT ALSO TO UPDATE THE SCHOOL RENEWAL PLANS AS WELL AS WE DEVELOP OUR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT HAS SPECIFIC INFORMATION SUPPORTING OUR UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS.
NICK, YOU WANNA PICK UP HERE A MOMENT? THANK YOU.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT, UM, ONCE THE PLANS ARE SUBMITTED, THEY, UH, THERE ARE PRUDENT DECEMBER, WE'LL HAVE THEM SUBMITTED TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF ED.
THEY WILL BE REVIEWING ALL OF THE PLANS, UM, ACROSS THE STATE.
AND THEN OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO BRING THEM BACK TO THE BOARD LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH, UM, FOR KINDA THAT FIRST QUARTER, UM, LATE APRIL, EARLY MAY, AND THEN SEPTEMBER AND DECEMBER, UM, FOR THE 2024 YEAR THAT THOSE WOULD BE OUR QUARTERLY REVIEWS.
UM, THE NEXT ONE'S CHRONICALLY UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS.
JUST MAKING YOU AWARE THAT A SCHOOL THAT HAS THREE CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF UNSATISFACTORY WILL BE DEEMED CHRONICALLY UNDERPERFORMING FOR NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.
UM, BASED OFF OF THIS, THIS YEAR'S DATA FOR THE THREE YEARS AND NOW BE DONE ANNUALLY.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, NO SCHOOLS IDENTIFY AS CHRONICALLY UNDERPERFORMING.
SO, UH, THEY ALSO HAVE THE, AS A DISTRICT DESIGNATION, NOT EMPLOYEE FOR US AT ALL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE 65% OF YOUR SCHOOLS BEING AT THAT UNSATISFACTORY, UNDERPERFORMING AREA.
SO, UM, NOT EMPLOYEE FOR OUR DISTRICT AT ALL.
SO THE UPCOMING SLIDES WILL GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF SLICE OF SUPPORT FROM DISTRICT, AND THEN YOU'LL GET A BRIEF, BRIEF INFORMATION WITH REGARD FOR WHAT SCHOOL EACH SCHOOL IS DOING, RESPECTIVELY.
THIS SLIDE SLIDE SHOWS TARGETED WORK FUNDED PERFORMING SCHOOLS FROM DISTRICT.
FOLLOWING THE SLIDE IS JOSEPH SHANKLIN.
I WANT US TO RECOGNIZE WE HAVE THE PRINCIPAL, LIZ RIVERA FROM JOSEPH SHANKLIN HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
HER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MONA LISA DIXON, HAS BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF 90 DAY PLAN.
UM, THERE'S A HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE OF WORK, A HIGHER LEVEL OF OWNERSHIP BY LEADERSHIP AND THE SCHOOL.
ROBERT SMALLS LEADERSHIP ACADEMY, PRINCIPAL BRADLEY TERRANCE IS HERE WITH US AS WELL.
PLEASE RECOGNIZE IT IS THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AT UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOL, NOT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THIS IS SHARING WITH YOU AGAIN, A SNIPPET OF INTERVENTION WORK, OF SCHOOL OWNERSHIP.
AND I HAVE TO SHARE SOMETHING AS A DISTRICT IS GIVING SUPPORT, IT IS FOLLOWED UP.
THEY ARE BY MONTHLY MEETINGS, THEY ARE WEEKLY MEETINGS GOING INTO SCHOOLS, TOUCHING BASE, AND ONGOING COMMUNICATIONS OF WHAT WE DO AND WHAT YOU DO.
AND WHERE IS THE FOLLOW UP OF PRACTICE.
THIS ISN'T JUST GO IN AND DO IT IS FOLLOW UP OR PRACTICE AND CONVERSATION, AND LET'S SEE WHAT THE OUTCOMES ARE DOING.
FOLLOW FOLLOWING SLIDE PLEASE WOULD BE WHALE BRANCH ELEMENTARY ACTING PRINCIPAL, GRETCHEN, FRITZ, GRETCHEN FR GRETCHEN FRITZ IS IN, CAN'T SAY THAT FAST.
UM, SHE'S HERE AS WELL IN THE AUDIENCE.
AGAIN, HER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS MONA LISA DIXON.
AND I, I WAS NEGLECTING TO SHARE THAT.
I'M BRADLEY TERRANCE'S, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS DR.
EACH OF YOU ACTUALLY TOUCHED ON THIS TODAY.
STUDENT LEARNING IS PARAMOUNT, THE CENTER
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LEVEL.GO BACK TO, UH, THESE PARTICULAR SCHOOLS.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS IS THAT ON A, UM, BIWEEKLY BASIS, SO EVERY TWO WEEKS, UH, THERE IS A DISTRICT TEAM THAT, UH, COMES TO THESE SCHOOLS, MEETS WITH, UH, LEADERSHIP BLOCKS, CLASSROOMS, MONITORING INSTRUCTION, UH, AND THEY COLLABORATIVELY, UH, WORK TOGETHER.
AND SO THEY SET A TARGET, UH, AROUND INSTRUCTION FOR, UH, THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND, AND THE PRACTICES IN PLAY FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
AND THEN, UH, THEY COME BACK, GIVE IT TIME TO BEGIN TO PLAY OUT AND THEN, UH, AND THEN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.
SO IT'S A TEAM OF, UH, UH, MEMBERS FROM INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES DIVISION, UM, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND OUR DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT, UH, DR. LEE, IN ADDITION, COLONEL GEIER.
ONE QUESTION I'D LIKE TO ASK IS, FOR THESE THREE SCHOOLS, UH, I ASSUME THAT THEY'RE GETTING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, FOR EXAMPLE, FUNDING OR FOR, UH, VACANCIES STAFF POSITIONS THAT ARE VACANT AND THOSE SCHOOLS ARE BEING, UH, UNDER HIGH PRIORITY TO FILL THOSE VACANCIES.
UH, THERE IS DIFFERENTIATED STAFFING MODEL, UH, AS WELL AS A PART OF IT.
I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION TOO.
SO WHEN WE HAD, UM, BACK BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD SOME SCHOOLS UNDER THE FEDERAL, UM, YES MA'AM.
CATEGORIZATION, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, I THINK THERE WAS SIX OF 'EM AND SIX AND TWO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WE HAD PRIORITY SCHOOL DESIGNATION.
YEAH, IT WAS TSI AND, AND PRIORITY.
BUT ANYWAYS, THOSE SCHOOLS THROUGH THE PAN, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME THEY HAD THE CHAIR SIGN OF THE BOARD SIGN OFF EVERY, I BELIEVE, WELL, I HAD TO SIGN OFF ON THE INITIAL NOTIFICATION, AND THE BOARD HAD TO HAVE THESE QUARTERLY PRESENTATIONS, ET CETERA.
AND THOSE SCHOOLS STAYED IN THOSE CATEGORIES FOR YEARS.
SO IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE SCHOOLS NOW TOO? OR WHAT'S THE, THE TIMEFRAME ON HOW LONG THESE SCHOOLS ARE CLASSIFIED IN THIS CATEGORY? AS THE SCHOOLS GO THROUGH THE ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE THIS YEAR AND MOVE ADDED THE STATUS OF BELOW AVERAGE OR UNSATISFACTORY, THIS CLASSIFICATION OR THIS TITLE WILL NOT, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SCHOOLS, MA'AM.
SO UNSATISFACTORY WOULD HAVE TO JUMP TO BELOW TO AVERAGE TO ABSOLUTELY NOT HAVE THIS CLASSIFICATION.
SO IF WE GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION, I THINK WHERE WE HAD THE CLASSIFICATIONS, MRS. BERRY MAY LEND A LITTLE ASSISTANCE.
IF I'M CORRECT, MS. IF FLOWERS WOULD HAVE TO MOVE TO AVERAGE, BELOW AVERAGE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE TO AVERAGE NOT TO HAVE THE CLASSIFICATION.
AND THESE ARE STATE CLASSIFICATION, NOT THE FEDERAL.
BUT THESE SCHOOLS ARE REQUIRED TO DO THE QUARTERLY REPORT, AS YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH, AS WE HAD WITH THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES.
THOSE FEDERAL REPORTS ARE NOT NECESSARY ANYMORE.
THE STATE IS NOW FOLLOWING THAT MODEL WITH STATE DESIGNATIONS.
AND I WASN'T GIVEN ANYTHING BY THE
THE NOTIFICATION WAS A BLANKET TO YES, MA'AM.
UH, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A BEAM OF HOPE ACTUALLY IN THE SENSE THAT, UH, A COUPLE OF YEAR, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WE WERE WITH AN ORGANIZATION AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET A SINGLE FAMILY FOUNDATION TO FUND A BOOKLET THAT WENT OUT TO FAMILIES.
AND IT TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF BIRTH TO FIVE.
AND IT TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF NURTURING, OF PLAYFULNESS, WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO IF THERE'S A WILLINGNESS TO REACH OUT TO CIVIL SOCIETY, I THINK THE RESPONSE WOULD BE SURPRISINGLY, UH, POSITIVE.
MR. SMITH, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THE, THE SCHOOLS AND BEING ON THE, ON THIS LIST, UM, THE FIR THE FIRST THING, CURRENT GUY, DEFINITELY HIT IT, HIT IT ON THE HEAD, UH, IT'S FUNDING BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN MRS. GORDON WAS TALKING EARLIER ABOUT WHAT IT TAKES TO
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TAKE US FROM POINT A TO POINT B, TO GETTING US TO WHERE WE WERE ATAND I WAS A PART OF THAT PROCESS WHEN IT CAME TO BEING A STUDENT AT ST.
SO THEREFORE,
AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU FOLKS, IT TAKES SOME MONEY AND IT TAKES SOME TIME, AND IT TAKES SOME DEDICATED, A DEDICATED GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
SO THAT'S HOW, WHEN HE SAID THAT, THAT RESONATED WITH ME BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES.
AND YOU TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THOSE KIDS WHO WERE IN THE BOTTOM TEAR, THAT WAS ME.
I'M A LIVING VESSEL, SO THAT'S WHY I TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.
RECENTLY, I WAS AT A YOUTH CONFERENCE AND, AND KIDS FROM ALL ACROSS DISTRICT GOT UP AND READ HOW THOSE KIDS COULDN'T READ.
I HAD STATE REPRESENTATIVES WHO WAS THERE, WHO, WHO WERE THERE, CONTACTED ME ASKING ME, WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING? AND WHEN THEY, AND WHEN I SENT 'EM, ASKED 'EM ABOUT THE MATRIX, THEY SAID, YEAH, THEY GOT IT.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
SO SOME OF 'EM TOLD ME, GOOD, AIN'T GOOD.
WE, WE NEED OUR KIDS TO, TO BE, BE ABLE TO COME NATIONALLY IN, IN, AND, AND ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.
SO THAT'S WHY I TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY, AND I UNDERSTAND I'M NOT, NOT, I'M NOT IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
SCRA, DR. RODRIGUEZ, THE NO ONE ON THE STAFF ON THE BEAUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
BUT WHAT I DO UNDERSTAND IS THAT WE TOOK OUR TEACHERS FROM BEING ON, ON THE BOTTOM PAGE TO NUMBER ONE.
NOW WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR SCORES.
ONCE AGAIN, WHAT THE PROTESTS TOLD ME, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT ELSE BY KNOW ABOUT WS.
SO NOW WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR WS ON, ON FINANCIALLY TO MATCH OUR WS ON EDUCATIONAL LEVEL.
WE GOT TO MAKE SURE COME HELLA HIGH WATER THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE LEARNING AND IT'S BEING SHOWED AND IT CAN BE EXEMPLIFIED IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE, AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF MONEY.
WHERE WE GONNA GET THAT MONEY AT? UNFORTUNATELY, THAT, THAT AIN'T, IT'S PART OF MY PROBLEM, BUT IT AIN'T, THAT'S MORE ON DOC, ON DR.
ON DR. RODRIGUEZ
AND LET ME LET, LISTEN, I DON'T BRING YOU A PROBLEM WITHOUT BRINGING YOU A SOLUTION.
I'M WILLING TO PUT THE WORK IN AS A BOARD MEMBER.
I'M TALKING TO MY COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW ABOUT PARENTS LEADING BY EXAMPLE, OWNING THESE SCORES, UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE ARE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET TO IT? I'M TALKING ABOUT DISCIPLINE.
I'M TALKING, TALK TO MY PARENTS NOW MORE THAN I'VE EVER, AND SOME OF 'EM DON'T LIKE IT, BUT GET COMFORTABLE BECAUSE I, BECAUSE Y'ALL TOO COMFORTABLE.
SO I WANT YOU TO GET UNCOMFORTABLE.
I WANT GET UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE WE'RE TOO COMFORTABLE WHERE WE AT.
SO THEREFORE, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, I DON'T MIND HELPING, BUT I DO KNOW IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF FUNDING, A LOT OF TIME, AND A LOT OF DEDICATION.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE I WAS A PART OF THIS MOVEMENT.
I SAID I WE WERE NUMBER ONE, NOT NUMBER TWO, NOT NUMBER THREE, NUMBER ONE.
UH, BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, UH, DR.
STRATAS AND, UH, DR. RODRIGUEZ, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT THE PRINCIPALS OF ROBERT SMALLS AND, UH, JOSEPH SHANKLIN AND WELL BRANCH ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS TO KNOW FOR ME THAT I APPRECIATE YOU.
I KNOW IT'S TOUGH WHEN YOU GO INTO THAT ROOM WITH DR. RODRIGUEZ AND THEY OPEN IT UP AND ALL YOUR PEERS ARE THERE AND YOU SEE BELOW AVERAGE AND UNSATISFACTORY FOR YOUR SCHOOLS.
IT'S NOT INDICATIVE OF YOU, BUT IT JUST SAYS THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE TO HELP YOU.
SO PLEASE TAKE THIS AS IN KIND, 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE SHED TEARS.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HURT BY THIS RATING.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT YOUR COUNTER, UH, YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE FEELING IT FOR YOU AS WELL.
BUT TEAM, THIS IS A WE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, UM, BELOW AVERAGE AND, AND UNSATISFACTORY.
BUT IT IS NOT ANYTHING THAT WE CANNOT OVERCOME.
MIGHT HAVE BEEN A POINT, MIGHT HAVE BEEN 20 POINTS, BUT WE CAN DO THIS.
AND AS MR. SMITH SAID, ANYTHING YOU NEED, CALL ME.
YOU NEED ME UNTIL YOU CALL ME.
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CALL US.BECAUSE WE WANNA HELP BE A PART OF THIS SOLUTION TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS ARE ABOVE AVERAGE OR AT AVERAGE.
BUT I THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, MR. DO, UH, TO FOLLOW UP ON ALL THESE COMMENTS, WHICH HAVE BEEN VERY POSITIVE.
AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MS. GORDON.
WE UNDERSTAND HOW HARD YOU'RE WORKING.
THE CHALLENGE IS MORE SOCIETAL THAN WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN THE SCHOOL DOORS.
AND I PERSONALLY HAVE SEEN THAT.
OKAY? UM, SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST FOR CONSIDERATION IS THAT AS YOU PUT TOGETHER YOUR PLAN, TELL US WHAT WE INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY AS BOARD MEMBERS CAN DO TO SUPPORT IT.
HOW CAN WE HELP YOU COMMUNICATE IT? HOW CAN WE GO OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND GIVE FOR ME, GIVE ME A SCRIPT AND I'LL FOLLOW IT AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN'T HELP YOU PENETRATE THE SOCIETAL WALLS.
'CAUSE PARENTS NEED TO KNOW THESE THINGS THAT IMPEDE THE LEARNING OF THEIR KIDS.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T KNOW.
THEY THINK THEY'RE DOING RIGHT.
THEY THINK THEY'RE DOING THE BEST AND THEY LOVE THEIR KIDS, BUT WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND PLAYFULNESS, TALKING TO THEM, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
JUST SPENDING TIME WITH THEM IS SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. CAMPBELL.
UM, AND I, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, UM, AND MS. DIXON IS HERE.
TRUSDALE WAS HERE, SHE, UH, GOT MR. DICK, MRS. DIXON AND
ALSO, IN TERMS OF THE ROBERT SMALL SCHOOL, IS THAT, IS THAT SO, SO WHEN YOU SAID THAT IS JUST THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SO ROBERT SMALLS ITY, SO INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY HAS TWO CODES VERSUS ONE CODE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME? YES, SIR.
THEY HAVE A CODE FOR THE ELEMENTARY.
THEY HAVE ANOTHER SCHOOL CODE FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
YOU, IF YOU LOOK UP THERE, YOU SEE IN THE AVERAGE CATEGORY, UH, ROBERT SMALLS MIDDLE, AND THEN, UH, ON THE BELOW AVERAGE, YOU SEE THAT.
AND, AND I JUST WANTED TO, I JUST WANTED MAKE SURE I WASN'T ASSUMING I WANTED, JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE SURVEY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT IT THAT I DO, I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, AND NOT ASSUMING THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT OF ME ASKING THAT.
AND THEN, THEN, UM, ALS ALSO, UM, I JUST ALSO WANNA SAY THE REASON WHY I USE ST.
ELEMENTARY NOW I'M CALLING THE SCHOOL OUT IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I WENT AT AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE I EXPERIENCED THAT IN TERMS OF INCENTIVIZING OUR PRINCIPALS INCENTIVIZES FOR THE PARENTS, AND SHE ALSO INCENTIVIZES FOR THE KIDS.
SO THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST SOME FOR, FOR THOUGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU ALSO GET PARENT, PARENT ENGAGEMENT IS INCENTIVIZING.
WHEN YOU GIVE KIDS SOMETHING TO WORK FORWARD TO AND TO LOOK FORWARD TO, THEN THEY, THEIR ACTIONS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO THAT'S, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TOO.
MADAM CHAIR, THAT WOULD CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU CON KINDLY TO BOTH OF YOU.
WE'LL JUST PAUSE FOR 30 SECONDS.
I HAVE TO ASK ROBIN SOMETHING.
SO THE NEXT UM, TOPICS ON THE AGENDA REALLY ARE, ARE, UH, BOARD DISCUSSIONS.
WE'LL HAVE SOME INPUT FROM OUR SUPERINTENDENT.
SO THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO, FOR US TO BREAK.
AND LUNCH IS BEING, UH, SET OUT RIGHT NOW.
WHAT'S THE, DO YOU WANNA DO A 30 MINUTE BREAK? A 45 MINUTE BREAK? YOU GUYS TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT.
HOW'S THAT? THAT'S 40 MINUTES.
SO, INGRID, DID YOU HEAR THAT? YEP.
SO WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE AT 1215.
ALL DOMESTIC ANIMALS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY OVER THREE MONTHS OF AGE MUST BE LICENSED.
THIS REQUIRES A RABIES VACCINATION AND A FEE OF $5 FOR ONE YEAR, OR $15 FOR THREE YEARS.
FAILURE TO LICENSE YOUR PET IS AGAINST THE LAW.
A MESSAGE FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER AND CONTROL
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THE SHELTER IS ALWAYS HAPPY TO ACCEPT DONATIONS OF OLD BLANKETS, TOWELS, OR PET TOYS.I'M A NATURALIST AND EDUCATOR HERE IN THE LOW COUNTRY.
YOU KNOW, BEAUFORT COUNTY IS AN AMAZING PLACE TO LIVE.
NOT ONLY IS IT BEAUTIFUL HERE, BUT WE HAVE AN AMAZING DIVERSITY OF LIVING THINGS IN THIS SERIES.
WE'RE NOT GONNA TRAVEL TO OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD LIKE AFRICA OR ASIA TO SEE NEAT THINGS.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT HABITATS RIGHT HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT SOME OF THE ANIMALS AND PLANTS THAT MAKE THIS AREA SO SPECIAL.
JOIN ME FOR COASTAL KINGDOM ON THE COUNTY CHANNEL.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH OUR PUBLIC SESSION OF OUR OCTOBER, UH, 27 20 23 BOARD OF EDUCATION WORK SESSION MEETING.
WE ARE ON THE, UH, ITEM UNDER ON THE AGENDA.
THE SUPERINTENDENT'S EVALUATION PROPOSED CHANGES FROM RESULTS COMMITTEE.
SO I'LL LET, UM, MS. BOATWRIGHT, WHO'S THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE.
I AM GOING TO ASSUME THAT THIS IS ABOUT SETTING UP A RESULTS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT RESULTS POLICIES, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR.
AND I WAS LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON HOW THIS WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA.
SO IF I'M INCORRECT, SOMEBODY SPEAK UP, BUT MY EXPECTATION WAS WE WERE GONNA, WE, WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE RESULTS POLICIES IN OUR COHERENT GOVERNANCE MANUAL.
AND IF IT'S POSSIBLE, CAN WE TALK ABOUT DEVELOPING SOME, DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT TO EVERYBODY? WELL, I WOULD CORRECT YOU
I BELIEVE IT'S PAGES 71 THROUGH 76.
AND IT'S THE, UH, IT INCLUDES THAT RUBRIC THAT, UH, WAS DEVELOPED, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC.
SO IT'S NOT THAT IT'S TOTALLY MISSING FROM OUR POLICY, IT JUST MAY NOT BE APPLICABLE NOW AS, AS, AS WELL.
AND IT'S ALSO NOT IN THE FORMAT OF A RESULT POLICY.
IT'S MORE IN THE FORMAT OF A RUBRIC THAT WAS KIND OF PLACEHOLDER, IN MY OPINION.
IT WAS PLACEHOLDER THERE BECAUSE RESULTS POLICIES HAVE VERY SPECIFIC, LIKE HOW YOU SET THEM UP IN CAREER GOVERNANCE.
BUT AGREE, IF WE WANNA SAY THAT THESE ARE, HAVE BEEN, WERE PUT IN PLACE PRIOR TO, YOU KNOW, EVEN DR. RODRIGUEZ POTENTIALLY, UH, TAKING ON HIS SUPERINTENDENT.
AND MAYBE THEN WE COULD LOOK AT IT AS REVISITING THE CURRENT RESULTS POLICIES AND TALKING ABOUT IF WE WANT TO STICK WITH THE RUBRIC THAT'S IN THERE OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
WOULD THAT BE AN APPROPRIATE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS DISCUSSION? YES.
SO YES, WHAT, WHEN WE MET AS A RESULTS COMMITTEE AND WHAT IS IN THE CHARTER OF THE AD HOC RESULTS COMMITTEE IS CHARGED NOT ONLY WITH, UH, LOOKING AT THE EVALUATION TOOL, WHICH WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT SINCE THIS COMMITTEE GETS FORMED, REFORMED EVERY YEAR WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN LIKE JANUARY, UM, WHICH IS SORT OF A MIDSTREAM TYPE OF THING.
SO LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES AROUND, UM, THE COHERENT GOVERNANCE MODEL AND HAVING RESULTS POLICIES, UM, WHICH ARE EVALUATED GENERALLY ANNUALLY AS PART OF THE BOARD WORK PLAN IN A, IN A COHERENT GOVERNANCE.
AND IT IS JUST SUPPOSED TO BE THE THINGS THAT WE AS A BOARD AGREE ON OUR, OUR, UH, STRATEGIC DIRECTIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE SUPERINTENDENT TO BE WORKING TOWARDS.
AND SO, UM, I DID HAVE A LIST.
I DID A, A FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE, UM, AVAILABLE TO ME, UH, REVIEW OF OTHER COHERENT GOVERNMENT BOARDS AND THEIR REVIEW POLICIES.
I ALSO LOOKED AT SOME STRATEGIC REVIEW, UH, RESULTS, I'M SORRY, I SAID REVIEWS.
I MEANT RESULTS POLICIES TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE OTHER DISTRICTS, WHAT USING AS RESULTS POLICIES.
AND ROBIN HAS THAT DOCUMENT, UM, PRINTED OUT.
I JUST WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS.
I WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW, UM, THE BOARD CAN START TO TAKE A BITE OF THIS APPLE, OR EVEN IF THE BOARD WANTS TO TAKE A BITE OF THIS APPLE.
UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WE'RE COMING INTO BUDGET SEASON, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, AND THAT'S A BIG ONE, HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, I HEARD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, MR. SMITH SAYING WE NEED TO FUND, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE TEST SCORES UP.
THAT'S A BUDGET, THAT'S A PRIORITY.
THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE REFLECT IN OUR POLICY.
ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT COHERENT GOVERNANCE AND EVEN LOOK AT OUR OWN OPERATIONAL EXPECTATIONS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT BOARD GOVERNANCE CULTURE, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IS DRIVING TOWARDS THE RESULTS POLICY.
OUR MISSION, OUR, UM, IN FACT, MOST PEOPLE USE THE, UM, MISSION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS THEIR FIRST RESULT POLICY.
UM, IT'S CALLED THE MEGA RESULT.
UM, BUT WE SHOULD BE DRIVING TOWARDS THAT
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AS WE DO OUR CONTINUOUS, UM, QUALITY IMPROVEMENT MONITORING OF THE OPERATIONAL EXPECTATIONS.IT SHOULD ALL BE TYING INTO, AGAIN, POINTING TOWARDS THESE RESULT POLICIES.
QUESTION NUMBER ONE, DOES THE BOARD WANT TO TAKE THIS JOB ON, OR ARE WE SATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF THE RESULTS POLICIES? AND NUMBER TWO, IF WE DO, I HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS, BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW A GREAT WAY TO GET STARTED.
SO I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I CAN FORM IT IN A MOTION IF WE, IF WE PREFER TO DO THAT, DO WE WANT TO LOOK AND REVISE THE RESULTS POLICY OF OUR COHERENT GOVERNANCE MODEL? SO DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION? WHAT DO YOU THINK, MADAM CHAIR? WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO START HAVING THIS CONVERSATION? I WAS JUST THINKING WHILE YOU'RE TALKING GOOD
THE BOARD IS NEXT WEEK, SO I THINK WE MAY HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON HOW WE WANT TO MODIFY IT OR TWEAK IT OR WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT TO USE AFTER WE DO THAT.
BUT I THINK, UM, SO I THINK I WOULD BEAR THAT IN MY, MY CAVEAT TO THAT, MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE ARE STRUCTURAL ISSUES CURRENTLY WITH WHEN I, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS EVALUATION.
SO DOC, THIS EVALUATION WAS PUT IN PRE COHERENT GOVERNANCE, AND THEN BASICALLY THE FIRST TIME WE REALLY USED IT WAS DURING THE PANDEMIC.
SO THE MEASURABLE, SO THE MEASURABLE COMPONENTS IN PARTICULAR, WE JUST SET THOSE ASIDE BECAUSE THE, THE NUMBERS WERE VERY DIFFICULT.
THEY WERE EMBARGOED, ET CETERA.
UM, LAST YEAR WE ONLY LOOKED AT THE FINANCIAL PIECE, BUT NOW AS WE WENT BACK TO LOOKING AT THE ALL THREE MEASURABLE COMPONENTS OF THE EVALUATION, WE FOUND A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND CONVERSATIONS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD EARLIER.
UM, AND WHEN WE BROUGHT THOSE FORWARD IN THE SPRING AND SUMMER, THE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD WAS VERY CLEARLY, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME TO LOOK AT CHANGING AVIS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE'S ALREADY, WE WERE ALREADY THROUGH MOST OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
SO THE CONCERN WITH CONTINUING TO PUT THIS OFF, BECAUSE I I CAN TELL YOU, WE WE'RE ALREADY HAVING RESULTS, POLICY CONVERSATIONS ALL THE TIME.
IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO NOT TALK ABOUT IT, ARE WE GONNA BE BACK IN THE SAME SITUATION FOR THE NEXT POLICY WHERE BASICALLY NOW WE'RE STUCK WITH AN INSTRUMENT THAT MAYBE DOESN'T REFLECT, UM, THE STRATEGIC DIRECTION OF THE BOARD WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT POST PANDEMIC.
SO LET ME JUST ALSO SAY, SO I HAVE THE EMPTY OR EMPTY UN THE SAMPLE EVALUATION TOOL THAT WE USED THIS YEAR, THE 20 22, 20 23.
AND, UM, I AGREE THAT, THAT EVEN THIS, THIS NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED SLIGHTLY FOR IT TO BE, TO GIVE DR. RODRIGUEZ THE OPPORTUNITY TO EARN THE HIGHEST SCORE, WHICH IS A CONSIDERED A 4.0, KIND OF LIKE YOUR GRADES IN SCHOOL.
AND THIS DOCUMENT, UH, THE INITIAL DOCUMENT, UM, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW YES, WAS, UH, CREATED, ESTABLISHED WHATEVER WORD YOU'D LIKE TO SAY WHEN WE DID HAVE COHERENT GOVERNANCE.
IT'S NOT THAT IT COMES FROM SOMETHING PRIOR TO THAT, NO.
SO, UM, AND IF YOU WANNA GET BEFORE WE VOTED ON COHERENT GOVERNANCE, NO, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.
OKAY, WELL, I, I DISPUTE THAT, BUT ANYWAYS, IT DOESN'T, IT'S WATER, WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE, RIGHT?
YOU WANNA GO THROUGH EACH LITTLE THING THAT WE SHOULD CORRECT? UM, WELL WHAT I, SO YEAH, SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR BOARD GOVERNANCE, UM, SUPERINTENDENT ACCOUNTABILITY, SUPERINTENDENT RELATIONS SIX, UM, AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, I'M DRIVING, SO I DON'T, I CAN'T PULL THIS INFORMATION UP, BUT SUPERINTENDENT ACCOUNTABILITY AND DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM
IT SAYS IN OCTOBER, AND IT SAYS EXACTLY HOW PER OUR POLICY WE ARE TO EVALUATE THE SUPERINTENDENT.
SO ROBIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PULL THAT UP AND READ IT.
I WOULD LOVE TO READ IT, BUT I DON'T WANNA GET INTO A CAR CRASH AS I MERGE ONTO I FOUR I 85.
YOU HAVE A POLICY ABOUT HOW TO EVALUATE OUR SUPERINTENDENT.
OKAY, SO WE'LL, WHILE WE'RE PULLING THAT UP, EARL, UM, WE WILL BE, UM, DOING THE EVALUATION WITHIN THREE DAYS.
SO WE NEED MONDAY TO DISCUSS THIS AFTER WE, WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS THIS NOW, WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS AFTER THE EVALUATION IS DONE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO IS THAT THE PREMISE OF THE BOARD THEN? SORRY, GO AHEAD.
NO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KEEP GOING OVER THESE DIFFERENT IDEAS
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HOW TO DO THINGS.HIS EVALUATION WE'VE DONE IN THREE DAYS.
SO LET'S TALK, THIS IS NOT FOR THIS YEAR, RIGHT? I REALIZE THAT, BUT WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING IT NOW? LET'S DISCUSS IT AFTER THIS EVALUATION.
THE REA WHEN'S OUR NEXT WORK SESSION? AFTER THIS ONE? JANUARY, YES.
WHENEVER IT IS, IS THAT WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE WHAT, SIX, SEVEN MONTHS TO DO THIS? THIS IS
NO, BECAUSE WHEN I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD IN THE SPRING, I WAS TOLD THAT THAT BY JANUARY IT'S TOO LATE.
AND THAT, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS TOLD WITH THIS COMMITTEE, THAT BY JANUARY, HALF THE YEAR'S ALREADY OVER.
SO IF, IF THE BOARD'S WILL IS WE, WE PUSH THIS BACK TO JANUARY AND THEN, THEN WE ARE, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, WE ARE STUCK WITH THIS SAME INSTRUMENT THAT WE HAVE NOW FOR THE 20 23, 20 24 EVALUATION.
WE'LL BE DOING IT TO HIS EVALUATION FOR 2023 TO MONDAY.
SO NO, THAT'S 20 22, 20 23, RIGHT? I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS NEXT YEAR.
THAT ONE THAT'S ALREADY SCHOOL YEAR, THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.
WE DISCUSS THIS, WE SHOULD DISCUSS THIS AFTER WE DO THE EVALUATION.
THERE'S NO SENSE OF GOING OVER THIS TODAY.
ONE, THIS ISN'T REALLY NECESSARILY ABOUT THE VALUATION, IT'S ABOUT THE FACT THAT COHERENT GOVERNANCE, BY DEFINITION AND BY ALL THE BOOKS THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, AND ALL THE PEGGY TORRES, YOU KNOW, CONSULTING THINGS HAS TWO COMPONENTS.
AND SO WE ARE THREE YEARS INTO COHERENT GOVERNANCE.
AND WHILE WE DO HAVE THIS RUBRIC IN THERE, UM, THE RESULTS POLICIES GENERALLY ARE, ARE FORMAT A CERTAIN WAY.
WE DO THE, JUST LIKE OE, WE PUT IN PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, THE SU WE DO THAT COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE MONITORING INDICATORS WHEN, WHEN ALL THAT GETS SIGNED OFF THAT WE AGREE THAT THESE ARE OUR PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO I THINK THAT WHETHER WE TALK ABOUT HIS SUPERINTENDENT EVALUATION, WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT RESULTS.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE CAN START THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE IF WE'RE SAYING, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS TOLD IN THE SPRING, THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, HE HAS TO BE NOTIFIED OF HOW WE ARE EVALUATING HIM WELL IN ADVANCE.
YOU KNOW, SO THAT THIS YEAR AS HE'S COME, AS WE'RE COMING INTO BUDGET SEASON, RIGHT, UM, HE KNOWS WHAT THE RESULTS POLICY IS OR WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE, THEN HOW DO WE DO THAT IN JANUARY? UNLESS WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE ALREADY IN 20 23, 24, AND SO WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST RIDE THIS ONE OUT ANOTHER YEAR.
I'M TRYING TO GET THIS DONE EARLIER SO THAT WE CAN USE IT FOR THE 20 FOR THE NEXT EVALUATION.
UM, INGRID, OTHERS WANNA SPEAK TOO? YEAH, I'D LOVE TO.
I JUST WANNA SAY THIS AGAIN, WE DON'T NEED TO BE DISCUSSING THIS TODAY.
WE DO THE EVALUATION IN THREE DAYS.
NOTHING'S GONNA CHANGE FROM NOW UNTIL THAT TIME.
SO WE HAVE NOT FROM JANUARY TO HIS EVALUATION NEXT YEAR, THAT'S NINE MONTHS.
UM, I, I TOO AM OF THE SENTIMENT THAT PROBABLY MOVING THIS TO FOR, TO BE, FOR THE 24 25 YEAR GIVES US A PLENTY OF TIME TO DO A RIGOROUS IN-DEPTH BROAD-BASED STRATEGIC STUDY OF WHERE THE DEMAND FOR OUR SERVICES IS GOING TO COME FROM.
SO IF IT'S COMING FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES OF SKILL SETS, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE OUTCOME.
AND THEN YOU WRAP YOUR RESULTS AND YOUR METRICS AROUND THAT.
SO I, I THINK THAT TAKE WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF PRESSURE OFF OF THE AD HOCS RESULTS COMMITTEE.
WE ALREADY IN THE 23, 24 YEAR, I THINK THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS CALLED FOR IN THE 2025 YEAR.
SO WE CAN SPEND PART OF 2024 PREPARING FOR THAT.
AND MAYBE WE CAN TEE UP A REAL RIGOROUS STRATEGIC REVIEW.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING INTO BIRTH TO FIVE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? WHAT WOULD BE THE COMPREHENSIVE WAY OF ENGAGING THE LEGISLATORS LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS AS WELL? UH, THE MESSAGING, THE COMMUNICATION SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY BUILD A REAL COGENT CASE FOR WHY WE FEEL TO SERVE SOCIETY.
WE GOTTA MOVE FURTHER UP THE RIVER OF LIFE BACK CLOSER TO BIRTH, RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT WOULD THEN LEAD US TO HAVING TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT VARIOUS METHODOLOGIES THAT ARE EITHER CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT COHERENT GOVERNANCE OR CHOOSE ANOTHER ONE.
SO I'LL SUGGEST A PERIOD OF DELAY.
ALL RIGHT, COLONEL GEIER, JUST, JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND.
I, I WAS ON THE ORIGINAL COMMITTEE THAT CAME UP WITH THIS, UH, RUBRIC AND IT WAS KATHY INE MYSELF, UH, DEVELOPED THIS.
AND WE, WE COPIED IT BASICALLY FROM A, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, I THINK UP NORTH SOMEPLACE.
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I WAS VERY SATISFIED WITH THE FIRST PART OF THE RUBRIC WHERE IT'S ALMOST ANECDOTAL, UH, AND, AND, AND THAT I, I THOUGHT WAS, UH, GOOD.AND I STILL THINK IT'S GOOD WHERE THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS IN THE BACK WHERE WE HAVE NUMBERS AND GOALS, AND THAT'S WHERE THE NUMBER, THE NUMBERS AND GOALS, FRANKLY, WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS, WE JUST KIND OF PULLED THEM OUT OF OUR HAT, UH, SOUND LIKE, WELL, IF YOU GET IT WITHIN 10%, THAT'S GOOD.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, EVALUATIONS FOR MANY YEARS, DECADES, UM, BOTH RECEIVING THEM AND GIVING THEM, AND WHERE WE SETTLED ON THESE, UM, PROCEDURES FOR, FOR RATING PEOPLE IN THE MILITARY AFTER THREE DIFFERENT, UH, ITERATIONS, WE CAME UP WITH A COUPLE WAYS OF DOING IT, I THINK HAS SOME APPLICATION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AFTER THIS EVALUATION IS OVER WITH.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT, UH, MS. INGRID, UH, WANTS TO DO.
NOW, FIRST OF ALL, WE AS A BOARD, AND THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE, WE NEED TO GIVE THE SUPERINTENDENT OUR GOAL, OUR STRATEGIC GOALS, AND SAY, THIS IS OUR PRIORITY.
THIS IS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, SECOND PRIORITY, THIRD PRIORITY, SO ON.
AND THEN HE NEEDS TO COME BACK TO US AND SAYS, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND YOUR PRIORITIES.
HERE ARE MY GOALS FOR THIS RATING PERIOD.
AND HE STATES THAT I, I WANNA T ACHIEVE ACHIEVEMENT OF 2% OR 4% OR WHATEVER.
I WANNA HAVE RETENTION RATE OF X PERCENT.
I WANNA HAVE BUDGET WITHIN SUCH AND SUCH A FRONT TIMEFRAME THAT WOULD COME BACK TO US.
AND WE WOULD SAY, YEP, I AGREE WITH THOSE GOALS, OR, NO, I THINK YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE HIGH THERE OR A LITTLE LOW THERE.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE GRADING PERIOD, OR, OR WHEN WE COME IN THE FALL TO DO THIS, THEN HE GIVES US HIS BOOK AND SAYS, OKAY, HERE'S MY, HERE'S WHAT I SAID I WAS GONNA DO.
IF, IF HE DID WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GONNA DO, HE GETS A FOUR.
IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE IF, BUT HE CAN ALSO HAVE, BUT THERE'S SOME MATTERS OF EXTENUATION AND MITIGATION.
SOMETHING CAME UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, SO I, I HAD TO ADJUST IT.
WE COULD TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION WHETHER HE GETS A ONE OR A FOUR OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A PROCESS THAT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG.
AND WE SHOULD THEN BE ABLE TO GIVE HIM A VERY OBJECTIVE EVALUATION FROM START TO FINISH.
THIS IS A, A, A TOPIC THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED IN JANUARY, AND WE CAN START IT WITH, TRY IT FOR A HALF A YEAR AS A, YOU KNOW, A STRAW MAN WHAT WE USED TO CALL IT.
YOU, YOU BUILD A STRAW MAN FIRST BEFORE YOU BUILD AN IRONMAN, AND THEN TWEAK IT A YEAR FROM NOW AND SAY, HOW DID THAT WORK? AND THEN MAKE THE POLICY, WRITE THE POLICY.
THEN, UH, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I HAVE WITH OUR POLICIES IS WE WRITE POLICIES DOWN, AND THEN WE THINK WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THEM TO THE LETTER.
THE POLICIES ARE FOR CONTINUITY.
THERE'S, IT'S NOT A REGULATION.
WE DO WHAT WE THINK WE NEED TO DO BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES AT THE TIME.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE SAY, OKAY, WE, WE, NOW WE HAVE TO WRITE THAT POLICY TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE DID.
THAT WAY WHEN PEOPLE COME ON THE BOARD, THEY SAY, OH, THIS IS HOW YOU DO THINGS.
THIS IS HOW YOU DO THINGS THAT YEAR.
IT'S NOT HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THINGS FOREVER.
UM, SO I, I THINK WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT I AGREE WITH MR. CAMPBELL THAT THE, TO TRY TO DO A LOT OF WORK IN THE SPECIFICS TODAY IS PREMATURE THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS PERIOD AND WE GOT NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
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THIS IS THEIR FIRST TIME THROUGH IT.SO AFTER THIS, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE OF AN INPUT, THEN THEY WOULD IF WE TRY TO DO IT TODAY.
SO, UH, THAT'S A LOT OF, UH, IDEAS, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I GOTTA SAY.
UM, I ESPECIALLY THINK YOUR LAST POINT IS VERY, UH, WELL, VERY WELL MADE IN TERMS OF, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS THAT THIS IS GONNA BE THEIR FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH THE EVALUATION, AND I THINK EXACTLY THEY WOULD LIKELY BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE, UH, BETTER AFTER THAT.
UM, MS. GORDON, I SAW, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND, UH, THANK YOU COLONEL GALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I JUST HAVE, UH, JUST FOR CLARITY FOR MY SECOND ONE, IT'S LISTENING.
UM, ONE, WHAT ARE WE EVALUATING DR.
UH, RODRIGUEZ ON THIS YEAR? IS IT THE 2324 SCHOOL YEAR 2223? CORRECT.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS 2220.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I WAS THINKING 24.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NEXT WEEK.
SO NOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FOLLOWING SCHOOL YEAR OF 23, 24, BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY KIND OF EVEN MAYBE PUSHED THE GOALPOST EVEN FURTHER TO THE NEXT YEAR, 24, 25, 25.
WE HAVEN'T MADE THAT CLEAR YET.
AND WHAT INSTRUMENT ARE WE USING? I THINK, UH, PUBLIC MIGHT WANNA KNOW HOW WE'RE EVALUATING.
THAT WILL BE, UH, YOU WERE, EACH BOARD MEMBER WAS GIVEN A, A PACKET WITH IT IN INSIDE OF IT, AND THEN I GAVE SOME, UH, DIRECTIONS AND THE, THE BOARD, EXCUSE ME.
RODRIGUEZ'S, UH, EVALUATION, UH, NEXT WEEK, THE PUBLIC WILL WILL RECEIVE A SUMMARY OF THE EVALUATION ALONG WITH THE INSTRUMENT, UH, A BLANK INSTRUMENT SO THEY CAN SEE EXACTLY, UH, WHAT CRITERIA WE USED.
SO YOU HAVE THE INSTRUMENT, BUT THAT WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE SUMMARY OF HIS EVALUATION THAT'S RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE, AND THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING, YOU KNOW, I'M A NEW MEMBER,
FIRST TIME DOING THIS EVALUATION AND, UH, JUST NEED SOME CLARITY ON 2220 THREE'S, WHAT WE'RE EVALUATING DR. RODRIGUEZ ON.
AND THERE'S DISCUSSION LATER ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT DO FOR 2324 EVEN 24 25 EXACTLY.
AND THEN THERE'S A SUMMARY THAT WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE PACKET, UH, ABOUT WHAT THE EVALUATIONS, AND I, I AGREE WITH, UH, WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH THE, I KNOW I'M ON THE TEAM, I KNOW I'M ON THIS COMMITTEE, BUT I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH MR. CAMPBELL THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S FAIR TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAIRNESS, UH, AS WELL.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, MS. INGRID WANTS TOO, IS TO GET THIS CONSISTENTLY DONE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS PARTICULAR EVALUATION INSTRUMENT IN PLACE BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF BEHIND IN THAT, BUT THANK YOU, MR. SMITH.
UM, WELL, WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT I, I I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT MRS. WHERE MRS. AND WHERE MRS. BOATWRIGHT IS COMING FROM TO A DEGREE OF WHEN SHE WAS TOLD LAST TIME THAT, OKAY, THIS IS THE WRONG TIME TO, TO BRING THIS, UH, TO, TO BRING DIFFERENT, TO BRING CHANGES TO THE SUPERINTENDENT EVALUATION.
I THINK WHAT, WHAT SHE, WHAT WHAT, WHAT HER CONCERN IS, IS THAT BA IS THAT, IS THAT BASICALLY SHE DON'T WANNA RUN INTO US ABOUT TO EVALUATE HIM AGAIN OR GET CLOSE TO IT, AND CHANGES CAN'T BE MADE UPON HIS EVALUATION.
SO WITH THAT, I DO UNDERSTAND, AND I, AND I AGREE WITH HER, THERE, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT DEFINITELY DO NEED TO BE, BE MADE ON THIS, ON THIS EVALUATION.
HOWEVER, ON THE OTHER HAND, I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT MR. CAMPBELL IS SAYING THAT TODAY MAY NOT BE THE, BE THE BASIS OF IT.
BUT WHAT I WANNA SAY IS THAT, AND UNDERSTANDING BOTH, BOTH SIDES OF IT, BECAUSE I'VE LISTENED THAT I JUST WANNA, I, I, I DO AGREE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO KEEP THIS IN THE, IN THE FRONT, IN THE FRONT OF US, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF OUR MAIN JOBS ON, ON THE BOARD, SO THAT WE DO REVISIT THIS TOOL AS SOON AS
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POSSIBLE.EVEN CALLING A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO GET THIS DONE OR TO GET THIS STARTED, I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT MAY EVEN BE, MAY MAYBE BE DEEMED NECESSARY DUE TO THE POINT OF WHERE MRS. BOATRIGHT SAYING, AND MRS. UM, MR. MRS. UM, MY MAMA BLACK.
BUT, BUT, UM, UM, UH, BESIDE ME, UH, UH, SHE SAID, UH, UH, WHAT, WHAT SHE SAID WAS THAT SHE WANTED TO BE FAIR TO DR. RODRIGUEZ TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET, THAT WE GET THAT WE GETTING INFORMATION TO HIM IN ENOUGH TIME AND THAT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE MATERIALS.
SO, AND, AND, AND ALL THAT I'M SAYING, AND, AND ALL THAT, TO SUM IT UP, BASICALLY, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO IT IN A TIMELY, IN A TIMELY, TIMELY MANNER.
BUT ALL BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT ALONG WITH DOING IT IN A TIMELY MANNER, I JUST THINK THAT WE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THIS IN FRONT OF US AS TO WHAT THE POINT OF MRS. BOATRIGHT SAYING.
AND TODAY, I AGREE THAT TODAY IS NOT THE DAY TO, TO, UH, GO, GO THROUGH WITH THIS.
BUT WE DO NEED TO DO THIS, DO THIS, UH, IN, IN TERMS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
IF THERE NEED TO BE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO GET THIS DONE, THEN, THEN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S JUST WHERE, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT AS A BOARD MEMBER.
YES, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE, THAT NEED TO BE TWEAKED, BUT TODAY MAY NOT BE TODAY, BUT LET'S JUST DO IT IN A, IN A TIMELY MANUFACTURING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE, TO MAKE THE CHANGES AND TO, TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THE GOALS THAT WE SET FOR HIM.
SO WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM, UM, LET'S SEE, UH,
WIZOWSKI? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN PUNTED FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND I DON'T SEE THE CORRELATION OR, OR ISSUE WITH DOING IT, UM, ASAP.
BUT I WILL, I WILL SUBMIT TO THE BOARD'S WILL ON, ON WHEN WE DO MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET RID, UH, GET OFF OUR PLATES.
WELL, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A VERY COLLEGIAL, COLLABORATIVE APPROACH.
UM, I STRUGGLED AS A CHAIR OF RESULTS BECAUSE THE INSTRUMENT I WAS, UM, I APPRECIATE COLONEL GEIERS COMMENTS HAVING WORKED ON THIS ORIGINAL DOCUMENT THAT THESE MEASURABLE COMPONENTS, THEY'RE PROBLEMATIC, THEY'RE FLAWED.
AND SO WHEN I BECAME RESULTS CHAIR, I WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL JUST GET THIS SORTED OUT,
AND SO AS WE WORKED THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND, UH, BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE BOARD, TO DR.
WISNESKI POINT, IT WAS LIKE, NOPE, WE'RE GONNA PUNT THIS DOWN.
AND IT WAS SAID AT THAT TIME, WE'LL, WE'LL DO THIS IN A WORK SESSION.
WE NEED, WE NEED TO DO IT, BUT WE'LL DO IT IN A WORK SESSION.
UM, I THINK THAT YOU GUYS WILL SEE, WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE MEASURABLE COMPONENTS TO COLONEL GA'S POINT, POINT WERE SORT OF PUT IN THERE.
THEY WERE SORT OF A FIRST DRAFT, IT SEEMS LIKE ALMOST.
AND, AND AS HE EXPLAINED, I THINK VERY, VERY WELL.
UM, AND I HOPE THAT, UM, HE IS THAT I CAN KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF OF HIS EXPLANATION, WHAT HE DESCRIBED AS FAR AS YOU, THE EVALUATION.
YOU CAN COME UP WITH THESE METRICS.
YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE WANT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO CERTAIN METRICS, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A GIVE AND A TAKE.
THERE HAS TO BE A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH.
AND IT CAN'T BE SUCH A HARD, LIKE 10% IS THIS, 7% IS THAT 2% IS THAT, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO SORT OF FACTOR IN, ESPECIALLY GIVEN, I MEAN, AS WE SAW, UM, EVERYTHING GET CHANGED WITH COVID.
THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO SORT OF MAKE THIS NOT THAT CONCRETE OF A, OF A METRIC.
WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE BODY OF WORK, JUST LIKE THE DISCUSSION WE HAD EARLIER THIS MORNING ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS.
I MEAN, THIS DATA CAN BE PROBLEMATIC AND BE COMPLICATED.
IT NEEDS TO, IT NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED WITH CONTEXT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO, UM, WHAT I'M BRINGING FORWARD TODAY WAS TO JUST GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED.
IT'S REALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT.
THE PROCESS LAID OUT JUST A MINUTE AGO BY, BY COLONEL GEIER, WHERE WE COME UP WITH SOME STRATEGIC DIRECTIONS, PRIORITY ONE, PRIORITY TWO, PRIORITY THREE.
I COULD NAME FIVE OR SIX THINGS THAT ARE RECURRENT THEMES ON THIS CURRENT BOARD EARLY AT CHILDHOOD, EDUCATION, ARTS, EDUCATION, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DISCIPLINE, YOU KNOW, THOSE, WE COULD SAY, OKAY, THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES FOR THIS YEAR.
IT'S NOT A BIG FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT THE BOARD IS.
BUT THIS YEAR, THESE ARE KIND OF SOME THINGS WE'D LIKE THE DISTRICT TO REALLY WORK ON AND MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENT IN THESE AREAS.
AND THEN WE GIVE THAT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HE COMES BACK AND SAYS, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT I THINK IS A REASONABLE EXPECTATION.
HERE'S WHAT I HAVE AS A PERFORMANCE GOAL.
AND HE CAN DERIVE THAT FROM THE, THE FIVE-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, AND HE'S JUST LIKE, WITH THE OE, HE SUBMITS THAT BACK AND WE
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ACCEPT THAT.AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT THE, UM, OE ABOUT THE BOARD SUPERINTENDENT RELATION.
THAT'S PART OF THE EVALUATION IS WE SAY THE OES, WHICH ARE VERY CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH THE MICHIGAN, UM, ASSESSMENT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN TIE THOSE TWO TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND THEN THE, INSTEAD OF MEASURABLE, UM, MEASURABLE COMPONENTS, WE HAVE THESE RESULTS.
AND THE WAY COHERENT GOVERNANCE DOES IT, IS DID YOU MAKE REASONABLE PROGRESS.
SO IF WE USE LIKE, UM, CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, EARLY CHILDHOOD INTERVENTION, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LOOK AT WHAT PROGRAMS, WHAT STAFF LEVELS, WHAT INCREASES TO BUDGETS AND DIFFERENT AREAS.
WE'D LOOK AT NUMBERS AND WE WOULD DETERMINE WITH ALL THAT CONTEXT, WHETHER OR NOT HE MADE REASONABLE PROGRESS.
SO, UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, I'M HAPPY TO WAIT UNTIL JANUARY, IF THAT'S THE BOARD'S.
WILL I DO AGREE THOUGH THAT WE KEEP HUNTING THIS DOWN THE ROAD.
'CAUSE WE WERE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE THE SPRING.
THIS DIDN'T JUST POP UP OUT OF NOWHERE.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T AT LEAST GET STARTED AT THIS POINT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO WAIT TILL JANUARY IF THAT'S WILL THE BOARD.
UM, BUT THEN SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO GIVE THE RESULTS COMMITTEE, WHETHER IT'S ME OR THE NEXT RESULTS COMMITTEE, UM, SOME, SOME TIMELINE FOR THE 20 23 20 24 EVALUATION.
UM, ARE WE GOING TO JUST CONTINUE ON WITH WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND TRY TO TWEAK IT WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM? UM, YOU KNOW, DO THEY, TRADITIONALLY THE RESULTS COMMITTEE SEEMED TO KIND OF DISSOLVE AFTER, UM, THE SUPERINTENDENT EVALUATION WAS DONE.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT RESULTS COMMITTEE WOULD PICK UP IN JANUARY.
SO DO WE WANNA JUST HAVE, UH, THIS RESULTS COMMITTEE SORT OF SIT DOWN AND WAIT AND FORM A NEW ONE IN JANUARY? AND THEN, SO I JUST, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, CAN I JUST GET SOME CONCRETE GUIDANCE ON NEXT STEPS FOR THE 20 22, 20 23 EVALUATION IS DONE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT 23, 23, 24, HOW THEY'D LIKE MY RESULTS COMMITTEE TO PROCEED.
OR DO WE JUST WAIT AND HAND OFF TO THE NEXT ONE? SO YOU SEE WHY THIS SORT OF MID-YEAR THING CAUSES SOME CONFUSION FOR ME.
SO HOWEVER THE BOARD WANTS TO PROCEED, JUST CLARIFY THAT FOR ME BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS MEETING TODAY.
SO I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS TO ADD TO THAT.
AND I, AND I'M QUESTIONING THE ENTIRE BOARD.
CAN WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING JUST TO DEDICATE TO THIS ONCE WE ARE FINISHED WITH THE EVALUATION NEXT WEEK, LET'S, WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, LET'S NOT PUSH THIS TO JANUARY.
WE'RE NOT GONNA PUSH THIS ANY FARTHER.
LET US SEE IF WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING AND DEVOTE OUR ATTENTION TO THIS.
THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IF INGRID'S NOT THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE IN JANUARY, IF THERE'S A NEW COMMITTEE IN PLACE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THINGS DONE AND WE CAN GET, GET IT WORKED ON.
SO WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT, UM, WELL, OUR LAST MEETING IN DECEMBER, MAYBE THIS'LL BE SOMETHING UNDER THE BOARD BUSINESS ACTION THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON AND GET TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE JANUARY.
UH, HOW DOES EVERYBODY FEEL ABOUT THAT? IS THAT A MOTION? UM, I MOVE THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY, LEMME TAKE A GLASS OFF
I MOVE THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO PROPOSE CHANGES TO THE SUPERINTENDENT'S EVALUATION.
SECONDED ROBIN, THAT THAT MAYBE YOU WANT THE WORD INSTRUMENT THERE.
I MOVE THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
EVERYBODY HEAR THAT? NOW DON'T COME UP WITH EXCUSES
NOW WHEN ROBIN CALLS EVERYBODY, DON'T SAY, OH, THAT THAT'S NOT A GOOD DAY.
WE'RE GONNA GET THIS DONE AND IT'S GONNA BE ON BOARD BUSINESS IN DECEMBER.
SO, UM, DOES ANYBODY WANNA COMMENT ABOUT THE, UH, MOTION ON THE TABLE? CARLTON? YEAH.
PART PART OF WHAT, AND, AND AS COLONEL ALLUDED TO HIS CAREER, UH, I'VE HAD SEVERAL JOBS WHERE I WAS A MANAGE COORDINATOR OF MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS WHERE I WAS SPONSORED FOR COMPENSATION, JOB DESCRIPTIONS, REORGANIZATIONS, UH, PRODUCTIVITY, TAKING COST OUT.
THEN WAS A VP OF HR, DIRECTOR OF HR.
AND NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH SUCH LARGE CHANGES AT AN ORGANIZATION IS THERE IS A STRATEGIC REVIEW BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOME MONUMENTAL CHANGES IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BIRTH TO FIVE AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE EQUIPPING THE ORGANIZATION WITH RESOURCES.
SO THE SUPERINTENDENT, HIS STAFF CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD IF THAT BECOMES ONE OF OUR KEY AREAS.
SO I AM FINE WITH WHAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED, BUT THAT WILL BE FOR 23, 24.
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AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT IN JANUARY, THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE DISTRICT CAN SIT DOWN AND START TALKING ABOUT THE LARGE OVERALL STRATEGIC PLAN.HOW ARE WE GOING TO EVOLVE THIS ORGANIZATION TO SERVE THE EXISTING AND FUTURE NEEDS OF THE POPULATION IN BEAUFORT COUNTY? OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO JUST HAVE EDITS ADD INFINITUM.
I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID AND I WAS THINKING, UM, SO THE CURRENT, UM, INSTRUMENT THAT WE'RE USING NOW FOR THIS EVALUATION NEXT WEEK, THERE ARE TWO AREAS TO ME THAT NEED TWEAKING.
AND THAT IS UNDER THE MEASURABLE COMPONENTS OF EVALUATION, THE STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AND THE TEACHER RERE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.
BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE, THE FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT I THINK HAS BEEN TWEAKED APPROPRIATELY.
SO WE COULD ASK, SINCE THAT WOULD BE A SORT OF A LITTLE FIX TO WHAT WE GOT FOR 2324, WE COULD ASK DR. RODRIGUEZ TO SAY, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE TWO MEASURABLE COMPONENTS OF EVALUATION? AND CAN YOU BRING THEM TO THAT SPECIAL CALLED MEETING? I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH BETTER.
SO LET'S VOTE ON THE, ON THE MEETING AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT AS A SEPARATE MOTION.
OH, YOU SAID YOU WANNA HAVE THAT AS A SEC, AS A SEPARATE MOTION? YEAH.
'CAUSE THE MOTION ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW IS JUST THE, UM, HAVING A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
SO EVERYONE IN THE ROOM AND THEN, UM, ONLINE LADIES VOTE, RIGHT? I VOTE RIGHT.
DOES KY I, OKAY, SO THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
NOW DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT SECOND PART
THAT SUPERINTENDENT RODRIGUEZ BRINGS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE MEASURABLE COMPONENTS OF THE EVALUATION FOR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AND TEACHER RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.
DO WE NEED ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? SO MR. EARL CAMPBELL DID THE SECOND LADIES ONLINE, YOU'RE GOOD WITH NO, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA IMPOSE THAT MOTION BECAUSE I, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS ARE WE SAYING BEFORE WE HAVE THIS SPECIAL CALL MEETING THAT TEACHER RECRUITMENT INTENTION IS OUR TOP PRIORITY AND WE'RE NOT ADDING IN ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL PRIORITIES.
AND THAT'S THE CONVERSATION I WANNA HAVE FIRST.
SO I'M GONNA POSE THE MOTION, BUT YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANNA DO IS FINE WITH ME.
YEAH, THE, THE, THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT, INGRID, WAS THAT WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OUR GOALS AND ALL THAT, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE JANUARY.
THIS WILL JUST BE THE LITTLE TWEAK TO MAKE IT KIND OF, UH, WORKABLE
BUT THE BIG CHANGES WILL, SO WHAT'S THE QUESTION? COME IN JANUARY AND THEN WHAT'S THE TWO WEEK MEETING? IT'S JUST A TWEAK THE NUMBERS FOR ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT AND TEACHER RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION, OR GET DR.
RODRIGUEZ'S INPUT AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE DO WE LIKE IT OR NOT? YEAH.
SO I'M OPPOSED TO THAT BECAUSE, AND, AND TRUTHFULLY, I WOULD'VE OPPOSED THIS THE FIRST MOTION I THOUGHT WE WERE HAVING A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT STR YOU KNOW, STRUCTURAL CHANGES WE SHOULD MAKE, NOT JUST SORT OF WHAT WE CAN TWEAK THE AMOUNT OF WHAT I THINK IS ALREADY A PRETTY PROBLEMATIC TOOL.
SO I GUESS IF THAT'S ALL THE SECOND MEETING IS, THEN I MISUNDERSTOOD.
SO ARE WE READY TO VOTE? I, I WANNA, MR. SMITH, UM, I KIND, I DO KIND OF ON, ON ON TWO PARTS.
I DO KIND OF, I WANT ONE PART I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. WHAT MS. BOATWRIGHT IS, IS, IS TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE I, I THINK IT WAS MORE OF A JUST US FRESHLY COMING TO THE BOARD AND US START THE CONVERSATION ON WHERE WE WANT TO GO IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE TOOL.
BUT WITH THAT, WITH THIS MOTION, UH, THE, THE FIRST PROBLEM IS IF THE, HOW THEY WOULD SAY, WE WOULD SAY IN THE PAST, DR. RODRIGUEZ UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE WOULD WANT.
SO NORMALLY HE, HE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT US, THE BOARD INSTRUCTING HIM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, TO BRING THAT FORWARD.
ONE, BECAUSE IN PAST PRACTICES IN 10, TWO AND TWO IS THAT ALSO NOW WE'RE ASKING HIM WITH OTHER STUFF THAT HE HAS ON HIS PLATE REFER AND OTHER STUFF.
WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT HIS SCHEDULES ARE LIKE.
AND WE'VE BEEN ASKING HIM, NOW WE'RE ASKING HIM TO COME UP WITH THIS, WITH, WITH THIS, UH, WHOLE, WHAT, WHAT HE WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE WOULD BE WORKABLE.
AND WE'RE PUTTING THAT BE ON HIS PLATE WITHIN, WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
AND WE'VE MADE THE DECISION AS A BOARD TO COME UP WITH THIS AND IN TWO WEEKS, AND WE
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CAN ASK HIM, I'M SURE HE SAID, OH YEAH, I'LL GET IT DONE.BUT THE INITIAL THING IS THAT, THAT THIS MOTION DRIVES THE MOVEMENT OF THAT MEETING.
AND I DON'T, IT IS ALMOST LIKE A PREDETERMINED MOTION OR PREDETERMINED OF HOW, HOW THAT MEETING SHOULD GO.
I THINK WE SHOULD COME IT ALL FRESH AND THEN FROM THERE, THAT'S THE WILL THE BOARD TO PURSUE THAT.
BUT THIS MOTION IS DRIVING THAT MEETING.
AND I, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S HOW MS. BOATWRIGHT IS INTERPRETING US HAVING THE MEETING IN TWO WEEKS AND, AND NEITHER.
SO I, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD JUST GO IN FRESH AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT FOR HIM TO BRING, THEN THAT'S OKAY.
BUT DOING THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S DRIVING, THAT'S, THAT'S DRIVING THE DIRECTION OF, OF THE BOARD AND IN, IN THAT MEETING.
SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT EITHER.
MR. EXCUSE ME, MS. MIDDLETON, UM, DR. RODRIGUEZ, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT ALL OF THIS? AND DO WE EVEN NEED A MOTION FOR THE SECOND PART OR ARE YOU JUST GOING, HOW DO YOU FEEL THIS IS YOUR INSTRUMENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES TO? TELL US WHAT YOU NEED.
UM,
IW WE'RE ALREADY, WE'RE GONNA SCHEDULE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING RIGHT? WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT MOTION WAS ALREADY PASSED AND APPROVED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW.
UM, I, I WOULD, UM, OTHER THAN JUST TO SAY I WILL, I WILL COME PREPARED FOR, UH, WHAT I'VE HEARD, UH, REQUESTED AND WITHOUT A VOTE, I WILL COME PREPARED, UH, UH, FOR THAT DISCUSSION, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
SO WE DO, THE MOTION WAS SECONDED.
AYE, IT WAS NOT THEORETICALLY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO VOTE ON IT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER 'CAUSE OF THE OUTCOME.
IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S GONNA STILL BE PREPARED.
SO, DR OKAY, SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE IS AT THIS SPECIAL CALL MEETING IN ABOUT THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
UM, THE DR. RODRIGUEZ, WE WERE ASKING DR. RODRIGUEZ TO LOOK AT THE TWO AREAS OF THE MEASURABLE COMPONENT OF THE EVALUATION.
ANGELA, YOU SAID THAT THIS WAS, WE NEED TO SET ASIDE TIME IN A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO START LOOKING AT THIS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, TO NOT KEEP PUSHING IT OFF.
DID WAS THE INTENTION WHEN YOU SAID THAT, 'CAUSE I MAY HAVE MISSED SOME OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE WERE JUST GOING TO ADDRESS TWO PARTS OF THE CURRENT MEASURABLE COMPONENT IN TERMS OF WHAT NUMERICAL VALUE WE WERE GONNA PUT ON THOSE TWO PARTS.
WAS THAT WHAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING WAS? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, MY FULL INTENTION IS TO, TO ADDRESS IT ALL.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO.
NO, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING, LET'S ADDRESS EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH IT, MAKE THE CHANGES, AND THEN WE CAN PRESENT IT TO DR. RODRIGUEZ.
HE CAN LOOK OVER IT BECAUSE I WANT THIS TAKEN CARE OF.
BY THE TIME WE HAVE OUR DECEMBER MEETING, WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO JANUARY WITH A NEW COMMITTEE HAVING TO BATTLE THIS.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF IT.
YOU, EVERYBODY'S ALREADY SAT AROUND THIS TABLE AND SAID THAT IT HAS BEEN KICKED DOWN.
THIS CAN HAS BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD TOO MANY TIMES.
LET'S JUST HAVE THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING AND TAKE CARE OF IT.
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY? INGRID SAID, OH, SORRY.
I SAID THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.
I AYE, SO LET'S JUST VOTE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS HOW IT TURNS OUT.
IT WILL IF WE VOTE YES, YOU KNOW, IT'S CLEAR HE IS GONNA BE DOING IT.
AND I THINK IF IT VOTES NO, IT'S, IT'S GONNA DO IT ANYWAY.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION ON THE TABLE, PLEASE SAY AYE.
SO THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TWO.
UH, I THINK THAT'S, WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THIS TOPIC.
THE NEXT IS THE, UH, BOARD'S LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
SO IN YOUR PACKET TODAY, YOU HAVE THE, OUR BOARD'S 2024 LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, A DRAFT.
AND THIS WAS DEVELOPED THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE WITH THE HELP OF OUR LOBBYIST, UH, LYNN STOKES MURRAY, AND THEN ALSO YOU HAVE
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THE SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION DELEGATE ASSEMBLY HANDBOOK.UM, THE DELEGATE ASSEMBLY IS ALWAYS, UH, THE FIRST SATURDAY IN, UM, DECEMBER.
AND SO THE, THE, UM, S-C-S-B-A REALLY, UH, PUTS FORTH OUR SUPPORT AS, AS THE STATE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, REPRE REPRESENTING ALL OF THE SCHOOL BOARDS IN THE STATE THAT ARE MEMBERS.
IT PUTS FORTH ITS LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
SO I WILL LET EARL, UM, DO YOU WANNA GO THROUGH THE, UH, PRIORITIES? OKAY.
UM, THE FIRST PRIORITY IS, UM, SB 11.
ALL SCHOOL PUBLIC SCHOOL MUST BE CLOSED ON ACTION DAY.
I THINK THE, THE COMMITTEE, UH, APPROVED THAT.
UM, AND, UH, EARL PUT YOUR, UH, MOUTH CLOSER TO YOUR MICROPHONE.
CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, THAT'S MUCH BETTER.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ONE WAS, UH, SB 2 44.
UM, THE, UM, POLITICIAN WANT TO CHANGE THE ELECTION, SO EVERY FOUR YEARS.
AND MY, MY REASON FOR DISAGREEING WITH IT IS THAT YOU COULD HAVE A WHOLE, A WHOLE NEW BOARD COMES ON.
THEY DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS OPPOSED TO WAS, AND I THINK THE, YEAH, THE COMMITTEE HAD NO SUPPORT ALSO, THE NEXT ONE WAS HB THREE 18.
THIS REQUIRE THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION TO CONDUCT AN AUDIT OF SCHOOL DISTRICT OR INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL AT THE REQUEST OF EITHER FIVE MEMBERS OR GENERAL OF THE GENERAL SEMINAR.
TWO MEMBERS OR MORE OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT, UM, WE'RE OPPOSED DUE TO THE CONCERNS THAT TRIGGERING THIS, THIS MECHANISM IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE AS EQUAL ACROSS ALL SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS' COMPOSITION.
WE HAVE 11 MEMBERS AND THIS WOULD NOT BE EQUITABLE FOR US, SO THEREFORE WE ARE NOT IN SUPPORT OF IT.
THE NEXT ONE WAS, UH, HB 34 85.
AND RESPONSIBILITY, UH, TO PARENTS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I THINK THE COMMITTEE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM AT ANY MM-HMM.
AND I, UH, THE NEXT ONE WAS 33 17.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC ONES YOU WANNA SPEAK ABOUT, KEEP GOING.
AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATION.
THAT REQUIRES AN OPENING THERE OF SCHOOLS AND TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.
AND IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE BECAUSE OF, OF, OF ONE COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UM, SSB 2 0 6, AND THAT WAS THE TEACHER'S, UH, PAY RAISE.
AND WE SUPPORTED THE, SUPPORTED THAT.
THE NEXT ONE IS SB 2 0 2, UH, TEACHERS BILL OF RIGHTS.
UH, GIVEN, UM, GOVERNOR AUTHORITY TO HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE OP OPIOID ANTI DOPE IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY BOARD SUPPORT COMMITTEE.
SUPPORTED THAT, UM, SB 2 78, UH, JUVENILE JUSTICE REFORM.
AND, UM, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS WE SAID WE WAS GONNA MONITOR OVER THE ALLEGED AND MONITOR AND SEE WHAT WHAT COMES OUT OF THE 24 20 24 LEGISLATIVE ALLEGATION.
UM, THE OTHER ITEM WAS, UM, PROVIDE THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE MEETING REGARDING INCLUSION OF FALLING ITEMS. UNIVERSAL PRE-K AND CT C CT VOCATIONAL CLASSES.
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THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT WAS IMPORTANT.THAT'S A LAST SECOND TO LAST SENTENCE WHERE IT SAYS, TO RELATE A LOCAL
I TAKE THAT TO MEAN THAT LOCAL CITIZENS WOULD BE ABLE TO TRIGGER LEGAL ACTIONS AGAINST THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
IS THAT THAT COULD, UM, THAT POTENTIALLY, I THINK REDRESS NOW GOES THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE, RIGHT? DEPENDENT IN THE HOUSE.
YEAH, BUT IT SAYS, IT SAYS WE SUPPORT THEM.
I'M JUST RAISING THAT IS INSTEAD OF HAVING OUR LEGISLATURES ABLE TO PULL THE TRIGGER, ANY CITIZEN COULD PULL THE TRIGGER, COULD RESULT IN A MULTITUDE OF LAWSUITS.
CARLTON, UM, THAT IS ALSO WITH OUR LOBBYISTS AND, UH, ABOUT WHAT THAT ENTAILS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK, IT SAYS SUPPORTS SO LONG AS NURSES ARE NOT HINDERED FROM PROVIDING EMERGENCY HEALTHCARE SERVICES.
SO WE SUPPORT IT AS LONG AS THE NURSES ARE NOT HINDERED.
BUT THE OTHER PART THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE VIOLATION OF THE CHAPTER THAT WOULD GO BACK TO, UM, IF IT DOES HAPPEN, OUR ATTORNEYS AND THE LAW.
SO THIS IS A BILL THAT'S PUT BEFORE US, UH, FROM OUR LEGISLATORS, BUT IT'S STILL PENDING IN THE HOUSE.
SO WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM HER IF THIS PASS OR NOT.
IF IT DOES, WE MAY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE MAY PUT IN SOME MORE INPUT.
IT, I JUST, BUT AS WRITTEN, MA'AM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPORTING.
I, I JUST, I JUST RAISED THAT AS A CAUTION.
I CAN SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH NEFARIOUS INTENTIONS, SO THE HECK OUT.
UH, AND SO I WOULD JUST SAY BE VERY, I WOULD, I WOULD ACTUALLY SUGGEST OPPOSING THEM.
YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED ON IT.
SO YES, WE'VE PLEASE BE, BE CAREFUL.
BUT NOW WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US, 'CAUSE IT HASN'T PASSED THE BILL, THEN WE CAN, WE CAN ALSO, UH, CHANGE THAT.
CAN I RAISE ONE POINT IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE MEETING, THE, UH, LEGISLATIVE, UH, I GUESS LIAISON FOR US YEAH.
UH, I THOUGHT WAS PRETTY CAVALIER ABOUT EFFORTS TO REMOVE THE TEACHING OF BLACK HISTORY FROM OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
AND, UM, I THINK THEY WERE MOVING FORWARD, SHE WAS MOVING FORWARD WITH SAYING, OKAY, THIS ONE SEEMS TO BE PRETTY SETTLED.
AND THE, THE, THE COMPARISON I USED THE ANALOGY WAS WITH MY JEWISH FRIENDS OR, OR MY FEMALE FRIENDS.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF SOME PROPOSAL CAME FORWARD TO NOT TEACH FEMALE WOMAN'S HISTORY, JEWISH HISTORY, NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY.
SO I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR LEGISLATIVE SUPPORT MECHANISMS UP THERE.
GETTING VERY, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THEM ETHICS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING THE, THE DESIRE TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP CAN SOMETIMES CAUSE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, UH, CLOUDINESS IN, IN WHAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT AND OUR CITIZENS.
GO AHEAD, MS. GORDON, JUST REAL QUICKLY, I I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE, UH, TO HER, UH, HOW WE FELT, OKAY.
THAT WE WANTED SUPPORT FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDIES.
AND THE REASONS YOU JUST MENTIONED WERE BROUGHT UP TO HER.
SO WE DID NOT, UH, TAKE THAT LIGHTLY AND SAY, HEY, IT'S OKAY.
NO, WE WERE VERY ADAMANT WE WANTED TO HEAR MORE INFORMATION BECAUSE WE ARE NOT, UH, A PROPONENT OF THEM TAKING OUT AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDIES.
AND SHE, SHE ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE WILL BE DISCUSSIONS.
MR. SMITH WAS ASKING TO MAKE SURE SHE SENT HER THE DATES 'CAUSE HE WANTED TO ATTEND THAT MEETING.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, MR. SMITH ALSO, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE MOVE OF THIS, UM, UH, ON THIS, UH, ON, ON ON, IN TERMS OF LEGISLATION, I THINK FROM OUR WORK SESSION, WHAT I GATHERED IS THAT THIS BOARD IS VERY INCLINED TO HAVE OUR DELEGATED, OUR, OUR, OUR OUR, UM, OUR LIAISON, EXCUSE MY LIAISON TO SURE.
I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE HER TO INFORM US, BECAUSE APPARENTLY THE, THE TEST, THE CHANGING THE TEST'S, SOMETHING THAT WE ALL STRONGLY FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT, THAT WE NEED TO, UH, QUESTION THEM, QUESTION THE DELEGATION AS, UH, AS WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY DIDN'T KEEP CHANGING THE TEST.
UM, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IS WHO CHANGED THE TEST, THE, UH, THE DELEGATION.
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ANYTHING THAT COMES WITHIN THE DISCUSSION OF THAT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD LET OUR, OUR PEOPLE KNOW IN TERMS OF, BECAUSE, UH, SHANNON ERICKSON IS THE CHAIR OF THE EDUCATION, UH, COM, UH, UH, COMMITTEE.AND SHE IS OUR, OUR, ONE OF OUR CONTACT PERSONS.
AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT, UH, THAT WE SHOULD PUT THAT ON OUR RADAR.
SO THOSE, ANY OF THOSE TYPE CONVERSATIONS COME UP THAT WE ARE, THAT WE ARE NOTIFIED AND THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE CAN SAY IT ALL DAY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SUPPORT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE THINK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PUT IT IN BLACK AND WHITE SO THAT WE ARE MONITORING IT AND WE'RE WATCHING IT SO THAT WHEN THAT COMES UP, THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY SPEAKING ON IT.
WELL, WE, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET A MEETING WITH THE DELEGATION FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW, AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
UH, THEY, THEY, THEY WON'T, WON'T DO IT.
WE HAD ONE MEETING AND ONLY ONE MEMBER SHOW UP, AND THAT MEMBER WAS FROM, UH, HAMPTON COUNTY WAS ON THE DELEGATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, THAT, THAT IS SAD.
UH, THE ONLY TIME WE GET UP, WHEN WE GO UP AT THE CAPITOL, WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT SOMETHING.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE IS NO, NO, UM, DISCUSSION.
UM, AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPE, THEY NEED TO KEEP US INFORMED ABOUT IT, WHICH THEY DON'T.
WE, WE EITHER GET IT IN THE NEWS OR WE HEAR IT FROM SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD LET OUR LIAISON KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS IN THE, IN THE ACADEMIC, UH, IN THE ACADEMIC COMMITTEES, THAT WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY START TALKING ABOUT THIS, THAT, THAT THIS BOARD WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY FROM, UH, THE SENSE OF AROUND THE ROOM THIS MORNING WAS THAT Y'ALL STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THEM CHANGING THE TESTS
SO THEREFORE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONE WHO, WHO WAS DRIVING THE TESTS TO CHANGE YEAR FROM YEAR.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WHEN THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENS, WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW SO THAT WE CAN EVEN SEND A LETTER OF, UH, AND OF THE SUPPORT OF THAT OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT WE WANT THEM TO KEEP IT SO THAT WE, WE CAN SEE SOME CONSISTENCY.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I MEAN, IT AIN'T MAY DO IT, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME WHEN THAT CONVERSATION COMES UP, OUR BO OUR BOARD WILL WANNA KNOW.
WE DON'T NEED TO LET OUR LIAISON KNOW.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT WE SHOULD PUT THAT ON ONE, UH, WE SHOULD MEET AS ONE OF THE BULLETS OF THINGS THAT, THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
IF THAT'S THAT, IF, IF THAT'S THE WORLD OF THE BOARD, IF WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND WE JUST SAID IT THIS MORNING, THEN THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING IN TERMS, BUT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE FELT.
BUT IF WE'RE WANNA BE SERIOUS ABOUT IT AND CONSISTENT WITH IT, THEN I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO.
WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE NEXT LEGISL, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING.
STRATOS WOULDN'T THE, THE, THE METRICS THAT ARE USED FOR THE STATE REPORT CARDS, AREN'T THOSE DEVELOPED BY THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION? AND HOW WOULD THE, THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION BE INVOLVED WITH THAT? WELL, THE, THEY, THEY ARE, UH, DEVELOPED BY THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, I'M ASSUMING APPROVED BY THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION.
UM, UM, BASED ON, UH, ANY LEGISLATION, UH, FROM, UH, FROM, FROM, UH, UH, GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
SO, SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE, UH, ESSA, UH, FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LEGISLATION, RIGHT.
AND THAT REQUIRES, UH, THE STATE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO, UH, UH, TO FOLLOW SUIT.
AND, AND OFTENTIMES, OKAY, SO THE REQUIREMENTS LIKE REPORTING MECHANISMS LIKE, UH, OR DESIGNATIONS LIKE, UH, DR.
STRADDLE SHARED TODAY YOU HAVE, UH, FEDERAL DESIGNATIONS AND THEN YOU HAVE STATE DESIGNATIONS.
SO, SO SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS FORCE, UH, STATE, UH, GOVERNMENTS AND STATE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION TO FOLLOW SUIT, UH, IN DEVELOPING SOME KIND OF A FORMAT, SOME KIND OF A METRIC FORMAT THAT WOULD, UH, WOULD FALL IN LINE WITH, UH, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REQUIREMENT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE STATE GOVERNMENT IS IN INDEPENDENT, UH, OVER STATE, UH, UM, EDUCATION, RIGHT.
UM, THEY, THEY HAVE AUTHORITY TO, TO, TO CREATE ANY LEGISLATION RELATED TO IT.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THE MEETING IS IN DEC EARLY DECEMBER IN CHARLESTON, AND, UH, BOARD MEMBERS ARE, I KNOW SOME OF US ARE GONNA BE ATTENDING THAT MEETING AND WE'LL SERVE AS DELEGATES.
WE NEED TO KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IS.
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I SUGGEST THAT TODAY WE TAKE A VOTE ON THIS.IS THIS WHAT WE'RE GONNA, UH, BRING FORWARD? SO DOES SOMEBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION GO AHEAD.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE, UM, BOARD SCHOOL BEAUTIFUL COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES ARE 2024.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE DISCUSSIONS.
SO THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT ARE AT THE VERY BOTTOM THERE IN REGARD TO PK AND CTE.
AND I BELIEVE ALSO THAT OUR LOBBYIST WAS GONNA BE BRINGING FORWARD ANY OTHER FILED BILLS THAT WERE RELATIVE TO US.
SO WHILE I AGREE AND I SUPPORT GOING AHEAD AND APPROVING THESE THAT WE
SO THERE MIGHT, THERE MIGHT BE NECE NECESSITY TO APPROVE THESE FOR S-C-S-B-A.
HOWEVER, I JUST WANNA MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE THAT THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL ONES, AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE CONFUSED WHEN THEY DO COME FORWARD, UM, IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
YEAH, MS.
SO THE, OF THOSE PRESENT, IT'S UNANIMOUS.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE, UH, MEETING CALENDAR AND MEETING LOCATIONS.
AND I'LL LET ROBIN, UM, PRESENT THIS AND THE, WE HAVE A DRAFT VERSION ONE AND TWO.
THE, UM, THAT ONE IS SLATED FOR OUR BOARD TO MEET ON JANUARY 2ND.
AND IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE JUST OF ELECTION BECAUSE NOT DOING ANY BOARD BUSINESS, BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED FOR TWO WEEKS.
SO THEREFORE NO ONE WOULD BE IN, IN THE POSITION OF PREPARING ANY DOCUMENTS OR HAVING ANYTHING AVAILABLE IN DRAFT ONE.
SO WE CAN GO THROUGH EACH MONTH IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
UM, THE SECOND, I, UM, THE SECOND THING ABOUT THIS IS WHERE THE SECOND MEETING IS NOT BEEN DETERMINED YET BY, ON HILTON HEAD BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT, UM, ACCURATELY OR ACCURATELY IS THE WRONG WORD, WE DON'T HAVE A PERMANENT SPOT OR RECOMMENDATION OF HOW WE ARE GOING TO HOLD OUR SECOND MEETINGS ON HILTON HEAD.
IF WE HAVE OUR MEETING AT THE SCHOOL GYM, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE IT THERE.
WE CAN CONTROL IT, BUT WE CANNOT CONTROL THE VOLUME AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE AT THE SCHOOL UNTIL WE PURCHASE EQUIPMENT.
UM, AND COUNTY CHANNEL, IT HAS NOT SAID THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT US HAVING OUR MEETINGS ON SOUTH OF THE BROAD.
SO IF WE HAVE MEETINGS SOUTH OF THE BROAD, WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM AT OUR SCHOOL, WHICH WOULD BE THE, UM, CREATIVE ARTS.
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WOULD ALSO HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO SUPPORT OUR MEETINGS IF WE WERE GOING TO DO IT LIVE.MEANING WE WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT FOR A BID FOR ANOTHER COMPANY OR SOMEONE TO SUPPORT THAT MEETING.
AT OUR LAST, UM, YOU ALL HAVE TAKEN THE ACTION THAT IF WE HAVE A WORK SESSION IN THAT MONTH, THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE SECOND MEETING.
SO IN JANUARY WE WOULD ONLY, WE WOULD NOT HAVE A BUSINESS MEETING IN VERSION ONE UNTIL WORK SESSION.
UM, IF YOU CAN, IF WE GO THROUGH THE MONTH OF MARCH, WE WOULD HAVE THE SIC MEETING, AND THEN WE WOULD NOT HAVE A BUSINESS MEETING BECAUSE THERE IS A WORK SESSION FOR THE BUDGET AND DEBT IN THE MONTH OF MARCH.
SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A BUSINESS MEETING IN MARCH.
UH, IN MAY WE HAVE THE READINGS FOR COUNTY COUNCIL.
SO THAT IS WHY COUNTY THE, WHERE IT SAYS COUNTY CHA COUNCIL CHAMBERS, THAT IS FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL WHEN THEY DO OUR READING.
SO THAT FIRST READING IS MAY 28TH.
SO BEFORE YOU GO ON, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU SAY THERE WOULDN'T BE A BUSINESS MEETING IN MARCH.
IN MARCH, BECAUSE WE HAVE A WORK SESSION.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE SECOND BUSINESS MEETING.
YEAH, WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE SECOND MEETING.
UM, MONTH OF JUNE WE WOULD, BECAUSE GRADUATION START JUNE 3RD.
FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE, OUR BOARD MEETING WOULD BE THE SECOND AND THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
SO THE FIRST BOARD MEETING FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE WOULD BE JUNE 11TH.
THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE JUNE 25TH.
THE MONTH OF JULY, WE ONLY HAVE ONE BOARD MEETING.
UM, AUGUST, WE WOULD HAVE ONE BUSINESS MEETING, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A WORK SESSION AT THE END OF THE MONTH, NOVEMBER WE IN, UH, THAT IS AN ELECTION YEAR.
WE WOULD HAVE A BOARD MEETING ON THE FIFTH, AND THEN WE WOULD NOT HAVE A SECOND MEETING.
WE WOULD HAVE THE WORK SESSION AT THE END OF NOVEMBER.
SO THAT, UH, AS OUR USUAL PRACTICE, WE WOULD INVITE WHOEVER IS ELECTED TO COME TO THAT WORK SESSION.
UM, SO THEY WOULD HAVE INPUT ALSO AND PLANNING THE CALENDAR FOR THE 2025 AND MEETING WITH THE BOARD.
DECEMBER, WE WOULD ONLY HAVE ONE, UH, BUSINESS MEETING, UH, WHICH WOULD BE THE SECOND TUESDAY IN DECEMBER.
RACHEL, I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY.
SO THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO VERSIONS IS THE JANUARY MEETING, EITHER HAVING THE ELECTION ON THE SECOND, OR, UH, I BELIEVE DRAFT VERSION TWO, IT SHOWS ON THE NINTH.
AND IF ON THE NINTH IT INCLUDES A BUSINESS MEETING, BUSINESS MEETING, WHEREAS ON THE SECOND IT'S, IT'S UH, JUST THE OFFICER'S ELECTION.
MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT VERSION TWO.
MR. UM, DALLAS, SECOND, THE MOTION.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? UM, I CAN GIVE RATIONALE FOR WHY I CHOSE THAT ONE IF YOU'D LIKE
UM, SO I, I BELIEVE MS. BOATWRIGHTS NOT ON THE CALL OR, UM, MS. HAY, BUT I KNOW FOR MYSELF, UH, I AM OUT WITH, WITH MY CHILDREN DURING THAT TIME.
UM, THE NINTH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE KIDS ARE BACK IN SCHOOL, UM, FIRST WEEK OF SCHOOL'S BACK, SO I'M JUST, I'M TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION MY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE CHILDREN THAT ARE ALSO ON BREAK DURING THAT TIME.
I ALSO HAVE A COMMENT AS I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON EXACTLY, BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE IT, SO I APOLOGIZE.
ONE COUNTY CHANNEL IS REFUSING TO BROADCAST ANY OF OUR MEETINGS IF WE HOLD THEM SOUTH OF BROAD.
THEY SAID THEY DON'T HAVE THE STAFF.
THE SECOND QUESTION IS, I WANNA KNOW, WE JUST PUT HOWEVER MANY MILLION DOLLARS INTO A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL ON HILTON HEAD.
WE JUST BUILT A NEW WING ONTO MAY RIVER.
WHAT IS OUR AV BUDGET THAT IN 2023, AFTER THREE YEARS OF A PANDEMIC AND VIRTUAL EDUCATION IN A ONE-TO-ONE DISTRICT WITH A LOT OF SOFTWARE THAT WE CAN'T MANAGE A PUBLIC MEETING AT ANY ONE
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OF OUR BUILDINGS SOUTH, OUR BUILDING SOUTH ABROAD, WE CAN, WE, AS WE'RE HAVING OUR MEETINGS AT THE HILTON HEAD CREATIVE SCHOOL OF ARTS, BUT WE DON'T, UM, AS FAR AS THE SOUND, UM, WHAT WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AND WE DON'T, WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF WHO DOES, UM, I GUESS I'M SAYING BROADCASTING.THEY ARE TECHNOLOGY PEOPLE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE, UM, THE COMP, THE MICS AND SO FORTH.
WE CAN HAVE IT AT THE SCHOOL, BUT WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING IS WHAT WE HAVE EXCEPT FOR COUNTY DID DO THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD THERE.
SO, BUT WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE AT HILTON HEAD SCHOOL FOR THE CREATIVE ARTS? LIKE I THOUGHT THE ONLY REASON WE HAD IT THERE WAS 'CAUSE COUNTY CHANNEL.
THAT'S HOW THEY COULD RE WHY CAN'T WE DO IT IN A MEDIA CENTER AT THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL, MAYBE AT MAY RIVER? I'D DO IT IN BLUFFTON.
JUST SOMETHING, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR STUDENTS ARE OVER HERE.
THE MAJORITY OF OUR PARENTS ARE OVER HERE.
IT'D BE NICE TO OCCASIONALLY HAVE WHERE CAN GET TO A MEETING.
WHY DOES IT HAVE SCHOOL? I JUST, I'M, I'M FLUMMOXED THAT WE CAN'T SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE CAN HAVE IT AT ANY OF THE SCHOOLS THAT, UM, THAT HAVE THE, THE SETUP OR THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE DO IT BY ZOOM.
SO JUST THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY CHANNEL WILL NOT BE BROADCASTING IT LIVE, BUT WE CAN HOLD OUR MEETINGS AT ANY OF THE SCHOOL.
THE COUNTY CHANNEL WILL NOT BE BROADCASTING IT LIVE AT THE SCHOOL.
SO, TO YOUR POINT, UH, BECAUSE HOW MANY MEETINGS, SORRY.
TO YOUR POINT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERSION TWO, WHICH HAS THE, THE JANUARY, UH, NINTH AS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR, IF YOU LOOK, I MEAN, A LOT OF THE, OH, THERE'S THE VAST MAJORITY EVEN ON THIS SCHEDULE ARE NORTH OF ABROAD, WHICH I TAKE ISSUE WITH ALSO.
UM, IT'S JUST NOT FAIR BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ARE A BUSINESS SESSION THEN A WORK SESSION LIKE APRIL.
UH, LET'S GO TO, UM, I'M JUST PICKING SOME OUT YOU ARE JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.
I'M OKAY WITH THE DATES OF THE MEETING, BUT I JUST THINK IT, THE, THE BUSINESS MEETING SHOULD BE SPLIT AND THEY'RE NOT ON THIS, UM, DRAFT YOU ALL MR. SMITH.
UM, AND, AND IN TERMS OF, I THINK THERE'S LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD BE POINTED OUT.
BECAUSE IF YOU ASK ME TOO, UH, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US TAKING OUT A BUSINESS MEETING FOR OUR WORK SESSION NOW, YOU KNOW, AND I, AND I SAY THIS THE LAST TIME, I THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO REGULAR SCHEDULED BUSINESS MEETINGS AND WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THAT TO TODAY AND TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, IN TERMS OF PEOPLE SPEAKING AND ALL OF THAT, FOR US TO TAKE AWAY A BUSINESS MEETING BECAUSE WE HAVE A WORK SESSION.
AND, AND WHEN I FIRST CAME TO THE BOARD, WE, WE, WE HAD WORK SESSIONS AND WE STILL HAVE BUSINESS MEETINGS.
AND I, AND, AND, AND I THINK THAT THEY BOTH WERE TIMELY.
I'VE SEEN WHERE WE, WE HAVE TAKEN AWAY WORK SESSIONS, I MEAN BUSINESS MEETINGS AND, AND, AND, AND WAIT FOR WORK SESSIONS.
AND I'VE SEEN WHERE STUFF HAS COME, THINGS HAVE CAME UP AND WHERE WE WERE ALMOST HAD TO HAVE SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS.
SO I TAKE A PROBLEM WITH FACT, AND MY SOLUTION TO THAT IS, ALTHOUGH THOSE MEETINGS WERE IN PLACE FOR A REASON AND IF, AND IF WE, AND IF, AND IF WE COULD NOT SPEND TIME TO HAVE THOSE THREE MEETINGS A MONTH WHEN NEEDED, THEN MAYBE SOME OF US WOULDN'T MAKE FOR THIS BUSINESS.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT THOSE MEETINGS WERE THERE FOR, FOR A REASON THAT THE PATTERN OF THOSE MEETINGS ARE, ARE THERE FOR A REASON.
AND ALSO ON WORK SESSIONS, WE USED TO HAVE WORK SESSIONS ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
NOW WORK SESSION IS SESSION JUST ONE DAY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE COULD, WE COULD TAKE PROBLEMS WITH.
BUT AS TIME GOES ON, I GUESS WE ARE WORKING 'EM OUT.
'CAUSE I, I DO HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH GETTING RID OF A BUSINESS MEETING FOR A WORK SESSION.
UM, MADAM CHAIR WITH, UM, WITH THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS, UM, WOULD IT BE IN, IN THE DEMAND FOR VARIOUS AREAS TO FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE ACCESS? WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK AT PROCURING AN OUTSIDE FIRM THAT COULD SUPPORT THE AUDIO? NOT WE, WE'VE DONE THAT.
THE SUPERINTENDENT BOUGHT REPORT,
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THE SUPERINTENDENT'S BOARD, HE BROUGHT US A REPORT ON THAT ALREADY, THAT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.SO FOR FUTURE MEETINGS, THAT SHOULD BE DONE AS WELL? UH, YES SIR.
UM, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, UM, Y'ALL CAN CORRECT ME IF I WAS WRONG, THAT THAT WAS A, A TASK, UH, GIVEN TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.
I DO BELIEVE, UH, MS. CUSH, YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT.
AND IF I'M WRONG, PLEASE, I'M SURE YOU I'M SURE SHE CORRECT ME AND I MAY BE, I MEAN, I'M JUST, I'M JUST, I'M JUST, I JUST KNOW HER SO I, I'LL BE QUIET.
AN OUTSIDE FIRM WAS, UM, WE DID A, WE DID A PROCUREMENT AND AN OUTSIDE FIRM WAS, UM, IDENTIFIED.
UM, BUT WHEN COUNTY CHANNELS SAID THAT THEY WOULD GO BACK AND COVER OUR MEETINGS, WE DID.
WE NO LONGER MOVED FORWARD WITH, UM, THAT SECOND PROCESS OF, OF GOING WITH AN OUTSIDE FIRM.
BUT AN OUTSIDE FIRM WAS IDENTIFIED, BUT WE DID NOT CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS.
ONCE COUNTY CHANNEL, UM, HIRED A DIRECTOR AT THE TIME AND THEY SAID THAT THEY COULD COVER OUR MEETINGS.
ONCE THAT NEW DIRECTOR CAME WITH THE COUNTY CHANNEL, THEN HE SAID THAT HE NO LONGER HAD THE STAFF TO COVER OUR MEETINGS ON HILTON HEAD.
SO WE HAVE NOT GONE BACK TO THE OUTSIDE COUNCIL.
IF IT WOULD, IF IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR YOU ALL TO GO THROUGH THE CALENDAR FOR EACH MONTH AND IDENTIFY WHICH DAYS YOU WANT IT TO BE ON HILTON HEAD OR WEEK, THIS IS YOUR CALENDAR, SO YOU CAN HAVE YOUR MEETING WHEREVER YOU WANT TO.
SO YOU JUST IDENTIFY WHERE, IF YOU WANT IT ON HILTON HEAD, WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO GET A LOCATION AND DO OUR BEST IN, UM, GETTING IT COVERED.
I I, I WOULD ACTUALLY THINK IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THEM ON A 2 78 CAR TO HAVE ONE ON HILTON HEAD, ONE IN BLUFFTON, AND ONE IN MAY RIVER AREA.
'CAUSE THAT WILL HELP, UH, US GET SOME OF OUR MESSAGING AND WHICHEVER THOSE ARE, I I DEFER TO
UM, DIDN'T WE HAVE MEETINGS? WELL, LET ME LOOK OVER HERE.
DIDN'T WE HAVE MEETINGS AT ONE POINT, UM, BLUFFTON, UM, COUNT OR WAS THAT THE, IT WAS THE LIBRARY.
WAS IT THE COUNTY COUNCILS CHAMBERS AS WELL? OH, OR THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
IS THAT STILL EVEN POSSIBLE? BECAUSE I KNOW THEY BROADCAST, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY CHANNEL BROADCAST FROM THERE.
SO WHAT DO OUR DATES CO? CAN WE COORDINATE SOMETHING WITH THEM? IT MAY HAVE IT WHERE LL CITY COUNCIL L CITY.
WE CANNOT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S TOO SMALL.
WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, LIBRARY? UH, COUNTY CHANNEL STOPPED DOING IT THERE BECAUSE THEY RIPPED OUT THE, UM, THE EQUIPMENT.
THEY RIPPED OUT THE FLOOR, THE ACOUSTICS, THE CARPET.
I GUESS WE CAN REVISIT THIS AT THE NEXT ANOTHER MEETING.
I THINK WE, BUT CALL FOR THE VOTE ON, OH, NOT VOTING.
WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE, ON THE, UH, FLOOR FOR DRAFT TWO.
UM, AND I'LL PASS THE GAL AND I'LL AMEND IT.
AND I WOULD LIKE THE MEETINGS TO BE SPLIT EQUALLY BETWEEN NORTH OF THE BROAD AND SOUTH OF THE BROAD SECOND.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.
SO ANY DISCRETION ON THAT? YEAH.
UM, ALSO, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE, HAVE A, UH, SECOND BUSINESS MEETING WHERE WE HAVE, UM, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS MOTION.
SO YOU CAN'T GO THERE ON THIS MO THIS IS, THE AMENDMENT IS ONLY ON SPLITTING THE MEETINGS BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH.
SO THAT'S, YOU WOULD HAVE TO, UH, HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT.
YEAH, I WAS, I WAS THINKING WHAT DOES ROBERT, I THINK YOU CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO.
NO, YOU NEED TO VOTE AMENDMENT AND THEN YOU CAN AMEND THE ORIGINAL MOTION AGAIN.
YEAH, YOU CAN DO AN AMENDMENT TWICE.
IT'S THE STUPIDEST CONVERSATION.
HE'S NOT TRYING TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT.
GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AND AMEND THAT WITH HIS.
YEAH, SO, ALRIGHT, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE DECIDING ON WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE, UH, THE MEETING SPLIT EQUALLY BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH AND ABROAD.
SO ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
NOW WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
AND MR. SMITH, YOU WANNA AMEND THAT ONE? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO AMEND, AMEND THAT THAT WE, THAT, THAT WE ALSO, UH, GO BACK WITH, UH, THAT WE ALSO
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GO, GO BACK WITH TWO BUSINESS MEETINGS AND TWO BUSINESS MEETINGS AND WITHIN THE TWO BUSINESS MEETINGS AND AS WELL, UH, THE MONTH THAT WE HAVE EXECUTIVES, I MEAN THE WORK SESSIONS, EXCUSE ME.SO BASED ON MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE OUR, OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE TWO BUSINESS MEETINGS, UH, TO, TO INCLUDE DIRECTLY WHEN WE HAVE OUR, OUR REGULAR WORK SESSIONS.
HOW MANY MONTHS ONLY HAVE A BUSINESS MEDIA? IS IT FOUR THREE BY THREE BY THREE? MARCH.
FIVE, RIGHT? FIVE WORK SESSIONS.
WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, IN MARCH, WELL EXAMPLE IN MARCH, UM, WE HAVE A BUS BUSINESS SESSION AND A BUDGET, A WORK SESSION.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN SIC MEETING.
SO THERE'S ALREADY THREE MEETINGS THERE.
THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE, UM, THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE, UH, LET ME NOT SKIP ANY, I THINK AUGUST.
MAY HAS THE TWO BUSINESS SESSIONS.
THEN WE GET ALL THE GRADUATIONS IN JUNE.
WE'VE GOT ONE SINCE IT'S A WE HAVE BUSINESS.
WHAT, YOU HAVE TWO BUSINESS MEETINGS IN JUNE? YEP.
AND THEN WE HAVE TWO, AND THEN WE HAVE ONE IN JULY, BUT TWO IN AUGUST.
DO WE HAVE A WORK IN AUGUST? YOU'RE RIGHT.
ONE IS BUSINESS AND ONE IS WORK.
IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, TWO BUSINESS SESSIONS.
OCTOBER A A BUSINESS, TWO BUSINESS SESSIONS.
NOVEMBER ONE BUSINESS SESSION AND ONE WORK SESSION.
AND THEN IN DECEMBER, A COMMUNITY, ASIC COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS MEETING AND A, UH, A BUSINESS SESSION.
SO THAT'S THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
HOW MANY TOTAL BUSINESS? I HATE THIS.
HOW MANY TOTAL BUSINESS MEETINGS DO WE HAVE FOR 2024? WHO KNOWS?
UM, YOU GOT SOMETHING? I I, I MEAN I CAN COUNT 'EM UP, BUT I'LL LET DR. RODRIGUEZ TALK.
HE SEEMS LIKE HE WANTS TO SPEAK.
I WAS, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UM, FOUR WHEN WE HAVE WORK SESSIONS AND WE HAVE TWO BUSINESS MEETINGS IN ALL ONE MONTH.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU FOR MY STAFF, IT'S EXTREMELY CHALLENGING TO BE PREPARED PRESENTATIONS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
UH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM.
THIS, THIS WORKS FOR US, IT ALLOWS US TO, TO CARRY ON OUR OTHER WORK.
BUT WHEN YOU GET A MONTH LIKE THAT, UH, WITH TWO AND ONE MORE, I MEAN THIS, THE CYCLE OF GETTING DOCUMENTS TO YOU AHEAD OF TIME AND GETTING PREPPED AND DOING PRESENTATIONS IS, IS CHALLENGING.
AND I, YOU KNOW, SORRY TO, TO STEP IN, BUT, UM, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT AT ALL AND I DON'T WANNA BURDEN STAFF.
WHAT I DO WORRY ABOUT, I, I FEEL LIKE ALMOST WE HAVE TOO MANY WORK SESSIONS AND NONE OF BUSINESS MEETINGS BECAUSE LIKE COMMITTEE REPORTS GET PUT ON HOLD, YOU KNOW, THE WORK SESSIONS CAN, SOMETIMES THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, STUFF THAT'S NOT REALLY RELATED TO LIKE, OUR DAY-TODAY WORK.
SO I JUST FOUND THAT THERE WAS KIND OF A LONG PERIOD WHERE IT WAS HARD TO GET, LIKE, UH, WE HAD A COMMITTEE MEETING AND THEN IT WAS LIKE TWO AND A HALF MONTHS
SO I, I SECOND THE MOTION, BUT I, I DON'T WANNA BURDEN THE STAFF, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF ARE THERE KIND OF LIKE DESERTS ONLY FOR THE SAKE OF IF THERE'S STUFF WE NEED TO GET DONE IN BETWEEN THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS LONG DROUGHT.
LIKE WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVE ONE MEETING JULY, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING.
I JUST, I FELT LIKE THAT LITTLE BIT THIS SUMMER, IT WAS KIND OF ODD, BUT, AND I WOULD JUST ADD, WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
AND, AND, AND, AND THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT MR. SMITH, YOU WERE NOT CALLED ON.
OKAY, WELL YOU JUST SAID LET'S VOTE MOTION YOU STOP ONE THE SESSIONS IS WHEN WE DISCUSS A LOT OF ISSUES.
AND WE CANNOT DO THAT AT A BUSINESS MEETING AT THE, WE CANNOT MAKE THE MORE WEIGHT ON THE ADMINISTRATION.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, NOT, UH, FEASIBLE.
AND THEN MR. SMITH, UM, I AGREE WITH, UM, BOTH SUPERINTENDENT RODRIGUEZ AND MR. CAMPBELL.
UM, AND ON TOP OF THAT, THEY HAVE TO PREPARE FOR COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
SO, I MEAN, I LOOK AT THIS CALENDAR AND I'M GOING, THIS IS ALREADY A LOT AND I UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
AND THEN MR. GORDON, WELL, I DO UN I DO UNDER, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT MOST OF THE TIMES, THE, THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE THE STAFF HAD NEEDED TO COME AND BRING, AND BRING AND BRING THINGS FORWARD THEMSELVES.
AND I TOO AGREE WITH, WITH, UH, MS.
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DEALT WITH IT IN, IN IN DIFFERENT WAYS, THAT HAS, HAS BROUGHT, UH, SOME CHALLENGES TO THE BOARD AS WELL.SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS ONE THING YOU, I DON'T WANNA PUT THE BATH OUT.
I'M DON'T WANNA PUT THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER, BUT, AND, AND, AND IN THE MIDST OF IT, THIS OUR, OUR TASK IS TO HOLD THE DISTRICT ACCOUNTABLE AND THAT WE'RE IN THAT WE, WE ARE, WE ARE TASKED TO HAVE BUSINESS MEETING MEETINGS AND GET THINGS DONE.
SO IT'S, IT IS, IT IS UNFORTUNATELY THAT, I MEAN THAT THE STAFF MAY FEEL THAT IT, THAT, UH, IT'S, IT'S A LOT.
BUT MY QUESTION BECOMES IF THEY CAN PREPARE, IF THEY CAN PREPARE FOR A WORK SESSION ONCE THEY SHOULD PREPARING FOR A WORK SESSION, THEN, THEN, THEN, THEN THE BUSINESS MEETING BECAUSE, BECAUSE OUR WORK SESSIONS HAS, HAS BEEN WAY, HAVE BEEN DANG NEAR SHORTER IN OUR BOARD MEANS.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE WE, WHERE ARE WE REALLY DOING? AND I'M ALSO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS, IS IT, IS IT BECAUSE OF, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE DISTRICT TOGETHER FOR, UH, FOR, I MEAN, SO THERE'S A, A LOT, A LOT OF VARIABLES.
I MEAN, I WALK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF WENT TO, I DID A TRY CEREMONY AT, I DID A, A TEST TO SEE HOW THIS THING WORKED OUT, BUT I THINK THERE WERE SOME KINKS ALONG THE WAY IN THIS.
AND SURE, I DO CARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW STAFF HAVE IN TERMS OF TIMING AND TURNING AROUND TO GET THINGS DONE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST WE CAN'T MAKE AN EMERGENCY OR WE CAN'T ALWAYS MAKE IT FEASIBLE FOR FAIR, FAIR, FAIR FOR, I MEAN, WELL, I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT.
I, I JUST WON'T SAY THAT, BUT I MEAN, I, I, I THINK THAT WE WERE PRODUCTIVE AND THERE WERE TIMES WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO GET THINGS OUT WHEN WE HAD OUR BUSINESS MEETINGS VERSUS OUR WORK SESSIONS.
BECAUSE WORK SESSIONS BRING A DIFFERENT ENERGY THAN WHAT BUSINESS MEETINGS BRINGS.
AND THERE WAS SOME, THERE WERE SOME TIMES WHERE WE HAD TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS ON THE AGENDA FOR, AND, AND THEN PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING, OH, OUR MEETING ARE SO LONG.
YEAH, THEY'RE LONG BECAUSE THE FACT THAT WE HADN'T HAD A BUSINESS MEETING WITHIN A, A MONTH OR WE HADN'T HAD A, A BUSINESS MEETING WITHIN TWO OR THREE WEEKS, ALL THE MEETINGS ARE EXCESSIVELY LONG.
SO DON'T COME AND SAY THE MEETINGS LONG WHEN WE, WHEN WE DO HAVE THEM.
'CAUSE THIS IS WHY MS. GORDON, THANK YOU SHORT, JUST VERY SHORT.
I AGREE WITH DR. RODRIGUEZ AND MR. CAMPBELL WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
AND MRS. UH, MIDDLETON, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE LONG OR LENGTH OF THE DAY, BUT IT'S ALSO THE FACT THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAVE OTHER, UM, RESPONSIBILITIES DURING THE DAY.
THEIR DAY DOESN'T END AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND THEY DON'T WORK FOR US.
WE ARE DEFINITELY, UM, MR. UH, I MEAN DR. RODRIGUEZ, WHO AGAIN, WILL PUT THESE DIFFERENT ASSIGNMENTS TO HIS TEAM AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TEAM THAT'S WELL TUNED AND IS WORKING FOR US.
AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT THEY'RE DOING THIS.
THE SECOND THING IS, WHATEVER HE IS GOING TO ASSIGN THEM FROM THIS TEAM, THEY'LL DO IT.
BUT THEN WE'RE GONNA ADD A SATURDAY TO THEM THAT WORK ON SATURDAYS.
AND WELL, WE NO, I'M JUST SAYING WHEN I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU.
COULD YOU PLEASE BE QUIET? AND SO SHE COULD SPEAK AND HAVE RESPECT AND FOR HER THANK YOU.
HER, HER SO SHORT AS I, I'M GONNA MAKE THIS SHORT.
I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF ADDING TO THE, UM, THE WORK SESSIONS TO BE ANOTHER WORK SESSION, TO BE ANOTHER WORK SESSION.
UM, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS IMPORTANT, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO DEPENDS ON OTHER PEOPLE GIVING US THIS INFORMATION IN ORDER TO DO IT.
AND WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT AS WELL.
I NO, I, I WILL NOT SUPPORT ADDING ANYTHING TO ANYBODY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ADD TO.
SO WE'RE GONNA CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
SO THIS IS THE AMENDMENT THAT ADDS, UH, BUSINESS MEETINGS TO THE MONTHS THAT HAVE WORK SESSIONS.
SO THAT'D BE TWO BUSINESS MEETINGS AND THE WORK SESSION AS OPPOSED TO THE WAY DRAFT TWO IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S ONE BUSINESS MEETING AND ONE WORK SESSION IF, IF A WORK SESSION OCCURS IN A MONTH.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ALL WHO ARE OPPOSED? NAY KY NAY VOTE YES.
SO THE MOTION, UM, UH, DOES NOT CARRY AND THERE WAS ONE YES.
AND THAT WAS SMITH AND EVERYBODY ELSE WAS NO.
NEXT UP THEN IS THE ORIGINAL MOTION,
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UM, WHICH WAS FOR, TO APPROVE DRAFT VERSION TWO.AND IT'S THE AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, THE MEETINGS EQUALLY SPLIT BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH HAS ALREADY PASSED.
SO NOW THAT WOULD BE TO HAVE THAT AT, WITH THIS, UH, MEETING SCHEDULE OF DRAFT VERSION TWO.
SO ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
AYE WAS NKI AYE A AYE VOTE, RIGHT.
NOW STEVE, UM, MEETING ON MONDAY IS SCHEDULED FOR FIVE 30.
I'VE LOST MY, UM, AGENDA FOR TODAY.
SO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, UH, IS, UH, OUR, IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR US TO DO THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT.
AND THAT IS THIS MONDAY, OCTOBER 30 AT 5:30 PM AND THAT WILL BE HERE AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE.
SO WE CAN ADJOURN BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS.
THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT