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CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY, OUR

[1. Call to Order]

USUAL PLEDGE OF BELIEVE FROM THE UNITED STATES AMERICA REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS? ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS LIBERTY JUSTICE.

THANK YOU.

UH, REMINDER TO COMMISSIONERS TO TURN ON YOUR .

IF YOU WISH TO BE HEARD.

WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE PERSON PARTICIPATING REMOTELY, SO I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY HE'LL HEAR.

UH, KAREN, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE

[3. FOIA Compliance]

WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT? YES, SIR.

WE ARE.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

CERTAINLY.

MR. HANS.

HERE.

MR. CAMPBELL? HERE.

MR. MEER? HERE.

MS. WHALEY? HERE.

MR. DUBOIS? HERE.

MR. LOBO? HERE.

THANK YOU.

MR. O'NEILL.

HERE.

MR. SEABOLD HERE.

AND MR. ZO IS EXCUSED.

THANK YOU.

UH, EVERYONE HAS

[5. Approval of Agenda]

RECEIVED A COPY OF THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING, UH, STAFF.

ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THAT AGENDA? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

WELL THEN MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN TODAY? UH, COMMISSIONER HENS MOVES SECOND AWARDED BY COMMISSIONER MEER.

ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND UNLESS I DIDN'T SEE THEIRS.

MR. COMMISSIONER LOBO.

OKAY, FINE.

UH, NOW IT'S ON TO MINUTES FROM

[6. Approval of Minutes]

SEPTEMBER 20TH, REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, YOU'VE SEEN THOSE ALREADY IN YOUR PACKET.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE VICE CHAIR O'NEILL AND MR. HEN SECONDS? UH, ALL IN FAVOR? SAME SIGN.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

UH, THIS WOULD

[7. Appearance by Citizens]

BE A TIME FOR APPEARANCE BIAS.

CITIZENS, FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS THAT WISH TO SPEAK TO US? KAREN, FOR THE RECORD, DID WE HAVE ANY, UH, RECEIVE ANY PORTAL COMMENTS? YES, SIR.

WE DID.

WE RECEIVED ONE COMMENT AND I'VE, UH, HANDED OUT THE REMARKS TO THE COMMISSION AND IT WILL BE MADE PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HEY, MOVING ON.

THERE'S NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS AND NEW BUSINESS TO TAKE UP RIGHT NOW.

UH, UNDER

[11. Chairman’s Report]

CHAIRMAN'S REPORT.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD DO IS, IS TO THANK THOSE, UM, COMMISSIONERS WHO ATTENDED THE TRAINING EARLIER THIS WEEK, UH, SPONSORED BY THE SOUTH CAROLINA MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION.

SEVERAL OF YOU WERE THERE IN PERSON, SOME OF YOU ONLINE, AND THERE'S, FOR THOSE WHO YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND, UH, YOU DID RECEIVE, UH, THAT INFORMATION TO LOOK AT AND THE RECORDING IS FORTHCOMING.

SO THANKS FOR DOING THAT.

UM, NEXT WOULD

[12. Staff Reports]

BE STAFF REPORTS.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE BRIAN, I THINK, COME UP AND GIVE US A, A REPORT ON A DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW.

IS THAT RIGHT, BRIAN? ACTUALLY THINK I'LL BE OKAY.

OKAY.

NOT PROJECT.

SO I FIGURED I'D, I'D, I'D KNEW A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO I'D COME UP HERE AND, AND, UH, PRESENT IT TO YOU GUYS.

I'M, I'M TREY LAU PLANNER.

JUST BEFORE YOU BEGIN, I WANTED TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT WE ARE HEARING THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY.

WE'RE NOT BEING ASKED TO ACT ON IT OR MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS.

HOWEVER, THAT SAID, FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION, IF WE HAVE SOME COMMENTS THAT WE WANT TO BE MADE KNOWN, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

BUT WE'RE NOT BEING ASKED FOR ANY.

OKAY.

TREY, PLEASE.

ALRIGHT.

AGAIN, TREY LAU, SENIOR PLANNER, TOWN OF HILTON HEAD FOR THE RECORD, UH, GO OVER THE MEMO FIRST.

SO, AS TOWN STAFF CONTINUOUSLY LOOKS FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE ITS PROCESSES, ONE RECENT CHANGE IMPLEMENTED BY STAFF FOR THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROGRAM IS TO REQUIRE ALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW APPLICATIONS FOR NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND MAJOR SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS BE SHARED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THE APPLICATIONS WILL BE PRESENTED BY STAFF FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY.

THIS WILL PROVIDE A WAY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO BE MADE AWARE OF ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT BEING PROPOSED ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.

THERE'S ONE NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW APPLICATION READY TO BE SHARED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THAT IS D P R 0 0 0 9 4 6 20 23, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS 20 OLIVE SHELL COURT.

AND I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN HERE WITH CHUCK AND SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PULL UP.

ALRIGHT, THE OVERVIEW.

ALRIGHT.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE CURRENT SUBDIVISION, AS IT WERE.

THERE ARE 14, UM, MOBILE HOMES ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

IT ABOVE HERE.

WE HAVE SPANISH WELLS ROAD AS IT GOES OUT TO WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY ON THE NORTH END OF THE ISLAND.

AND BELOW US DOWN HERE IS THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY.

THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED R M A, UH, THOMAS COHEN DRIVE IS RIGHT ABOVE RIGHT, IT COMES IN RIGHT HERE.

AND THIS PROPERTY SURROUNDING IT IS ALSO ZONED R M A.

ALRIGHT.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTY CONSISTS

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OF THIS PARCEL HERE, WHICH IS THE RIGHT OF WAY AS IT COMES IN.

AND THEN THESE SURROUNDING PART PARCEL, STARTING WITH NUMBER THREE AND GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PARCEL TO NUMBER FOUR ARE WHAT THE, UH, PROP THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF.

ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT SO FAR? GOOD.

WHAT'S R M EIGHT? SO, R M EIGHT IS A MORE INTENSE ZONING DISTRICT R M FOUR WILL BE OUR MODERATE, THE LOW DENSITY, UM, WHERE SINGLE HOUSES MORE SPREAD OUT.

R M EIGHT WOULD BE A LOT IS A MODERATE TO MEDIUM DENSITY ZONING DISTRICT.

SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LITTLE MORE INTENSE, UH, USE ON THE PROP PROPERTY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ON THAT SO FAR? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA READ THE NARRATIVE THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO US BY THE APPLICANT FOR 20 OLIVE SHELL COURT.

ALRIGHT.

SO THE EVOLUTION OF THE HOUSING MARKET ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND HAS SEEN THE GROWTH OF FULL RENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS ALONG MINOR ARTERIAL ROADS ON THE ISLAND.

THESE SMALL COMMUNITIES SEEK TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR FULL-TIME RESIDENTS, SUCH AS ENTRY-LEVEL PROFESSIONALS AND WORKING FAMILIES THAT SUPPORT ISLAND SERVICES AND BUSINESSES.

THE REPURPOSING OF OLIVE SHELL COURT TO, TO A DUPLEX MULTI-FAMILY ENCLAVE ON SPANISH WELLS ROAD WILL SUPPORT DIVERSIFYING THE RENTAL OPTIONS ON ISLAND DEVELOPED AS 24 MOBILE HOME RENTAL SUBDIVISION.

OLIVE SHELL COURT WILL BE RE-ENVISIONED AS A UNIFIED MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING OF 24 RENT DUPLEX BUILDINGS.

SO 20 DUPLEXES, THAT'S 40 TOTAL DWELLING UNITS ON THE PROPERTY.

THESE WILL CONSIST OF 24 4 BEDROOM UNITS AND 16 THREE BEDROOM UNITS.

A 5.2 ACRE PARCEL IN THE R M EIGHT ZONING DISTRICT WITH ARTERIAL CORRIDOR AND O C R M HIGH TIDE OVERLAY.

THE PROPERTY WILL BE SERVICED BY THE EXISTING ACCESS POINT ON SPANISH WELLS ROAD, SO THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO LEAVE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AND USE THAT ROAD AS THEIR ACCESS.

THE EXISTING ROAD NETWORK WILL BE USED AND THE ASSOCIATED STORMWATER CONVEYANCE WILL BE REUSED AND EXPANDED IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT BORDER BORDERED BY SINGLE FAMILY R M A ZONE PROPERTIES ON THE NORTH AND WEST POWER LINES IN THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY TO THE SOUTH AND SUMMERFIELD TO THE EAST.

THE PROPERTY WILL INCLUDE A 20 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK AROUND THE PERIMETER AND VARYING BUFFER REQUIREMENTS.

THOUGH THE SPANISH WELL ROAD FRONTAGE IS LIMITED, IT WILL CONTAIN A 40 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK AND 20 FOOT 25 FOOT BUFFER LINE.

THE PROPOSED TWO STORY OVER PARKING, 36 FOOT BY 56 FOOT AND 36 FOOT BY 50 FOOT FOOTPRINT DUPLEXES WILL FORM A STREET SCAPE AND THE ARCHITECT ARCHITECTURE WILL COMPLIMENT THE ISLAND DEVELOPMENT CHARACTER.

A MINIMUM OF TWO SURFACE UNDER BUILDING PARKING SPACES WILL PROVIDE PER UNIT MEETING THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE OR THE L M O REQUIREMENTS FOR THREE BEDROOMS PLUS.

SO THAT'S THREE BEDROOMS. AND THE FOUR BEDROOMS REQUIREMENT, UH, MULTIFAMILY FOR MULTIFAMILY FAMILY UNITS.

THE AS-BUILT SURVEY INDICATES THE EXISTING SIGNIFICANT AND SPECIMEN TREES ON PROPERTY AS WELL AS A LIMITED WETLAND AREAS.

OPEN SPACE AREAS, INCLUDING THE ENTRY PARK SPACE, WILL PROVIDE COMMON AREA FOR RECREATION AND ENJOYMENT FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THE STORMWATER B P M OR B M P AREAS WILL SERVE AS A BACKDROP FOR THE RESIDENTS AND GREEN SPACE FOR VIEWING.

IN CLOSING, THE DEVELOPMENT OF APPROPRIATELY SCALED FOR RENT DUPLEXES INTO THE EXISTING FABRIC OF ISLAND RESIDENTIAL WILL PROVI WILL PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ISLAND RESIDENTS TO BE CLOSER TO THEIR JOBS AND INVOLVED AS FULL-TIME RESIDENTS OF THE ISLAND.

PLEASE NOTE THIS PARCEL DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING PER THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.

UH, AND WITH THAT I WILL BRING UP WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.

SO IN RED YOU WILL SEE THE 20, UH, DUPLEX UNITS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.

THEY HAVE PUT SOME, UH, PATHWAYS IN FOR CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE ARE EIGHT OFF STREET PARKING SPOTS TO SERVE FOR EXTRA PARKING FOR GUESTS THAT COME IN.

THESE ARE OVER PARKING, SO THE TWO PARKING SPACES WILL BE PROVIDED UNDERNEATH THE STRUCTURES WITH THE DRIVEWAYS ELIGIBLE TO PARK AS WELL.

AND THEY ARE OFFERING A POOL AMENITY WITH RESTROOMS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION OR THE, UH, PROJECT AS WELL.

I'M SORRY, IT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION.

IT IS A THEY ARE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS RECOMBINING THE PROPERTY INTO ONE PARCEL AND THEN MAKING IT A MULTI-FAMILY USE AT THIS POINT.

ALRIGHT.

AND WITH THAT,

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I WILL ASK FOR QUESTIONS ON THAT PORTION.

QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER? HE THANK YOU.

WHAT'S THE FLOOR HERE? I DON'T THINK WE CALCULATED THE, THE FAR ON THAT ON THIS OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.

HEAD COMMISSIONER WHALEY.

CHUCK, CAN, CAN YOU STILL HEAR US? YES, I CAN STILL HEAR YOU.

I DON'T THINK I SAW THE, UM, SLIDE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE NEW LAYOUT ON IT.

ALL RIGHT.

LEMME GO TO HERE.

IT'S THE SAME ONE THAT WAS IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET, CHUCK.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

NO PROBLEM.

CAN YOU SEE IT NOW? NO, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

I, I'LL JUST REFER TO THE PACKET.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

OKAY.

YES.

THANK I'VE GOT IT WITH, UH, SORRY.

OKAY, CHUCK.

UM, SO WITH 40 UNITS, UM, UNDER EACH UNIT YOU CAN HAVE TWO IN THE GARAGE AND TWO IN EACH DRIVEWAY.

I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE HOW THE PARKING WORKS HERE.

SO THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO IN ON IN THE GARAGE STRUCTURE OR JUST ONE IN THE GARAGE AND ONE OUTSIDE.

SO THE L M O REQUIREMENT IN THE R M A ZONING DISTRICT FOR MULTI-FAMILY, THREE OR MORE, UH, BEDROOM DWELLING UNITS IS TWO PARKING.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE OVER, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE GARAGE PARKING.

IT JUST HAS TO BE EITHER IN THE DRIVEWAY IN THE GARAGE.

UH, AND THEY DO MEET THAT WITH THE TWO, THE TWO, UH, OVER PARKING.

UM, UH, NOT QUITE MY QUESTION, BUT I'LL TRY AGAIN.

UM, SO WHEN I LOOK AT A SINGLE UNIT MM-HMM.

, THEY CAN PARK TWO UNDER CORRECT AND TWO IN THE DRIVEWAY.

THEY SH THE WIDTH OF IT.

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO YES.

SO OUR, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS, HAS DONE THIS OR WENT OVER THE PLAN AND HAS DETERMINED THAT IT DOES MEET IT BEING THAT THEY DO DO THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT HE HAD WAS THAT THEY, THEY PUSHED THE HOMES BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SO THAT THEY COULD PUT THE TWO, UH, AS WE ALL KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE USE THEIR GARAGE FOR STORAGE, SO THEN THEY DON'T, DON'T BECOME PARKING SPOTS ANYMORE.

SO WHAT OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER ASKED THEM TO DO IN THEIR COMMENTS, WHICH THEY DID COMPLY AND DO, WAS MOVE THE HOMES BACK SO THAT THE, THERE WOULD BE THAT, UH, THOSE TWO EXTRA PARKING SPOTS IN THE DRIVEWAY.

SO IT DIDN'T IMPEDE THE SIDEWALK COMING AROUND AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP OF THE PLAN HERE.

AND THEN THEY WON'T, AND THEY WOULDN'T HANG OUT INTO THE, TO THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THESE RIGHT HERE.

ONE OF, AND FOLLOW UP TO THAT, UM, SO YOU HAVE EIGHT VISITOR SPACES, ONE HANDICAPPED MM-HMM.

, UH, 40 UNITS.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

JUST EXPLAIN MAYBE YOUR TRAFFIC.

I CAN DO THAT.

UH, EXPLAIN WHY EIGHT IS THE RIGHT ONE SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.

AND THEN THE, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, I NOTICED THERE'S NO TURNAROUND FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

SO IF YOU COULD ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE.

SO I, I'LL GO, I'LL, I'LL START BACKWARDS THERE.

THIS IS AN, IS ACTUALLY A TURNAROUND HERE.

OH, OKAY.

IT, IT DOESN'T, I KNOW IT DOESN'T LOOK AS, IT'S, IT'S MARKED DIFFERENTLY, BUT THERE IS A, YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE ISLAND HERE AND IT IS TURNAROUND AND IT DID GO THROUGH FIRE RESCUE AND TRAFFIC ENGINEER REVIEW AND IT DID PASS THAT.

UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE OFF STREET PARKING, THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.

THEY DO MEET THEIR L M O REQUIREMENT OF HAVING THE, THE TWO FOR THE THREE PLUS BEDROOMS IN THE R M A ZONING DISTRICT.

FROM A, IN A PREVIOUS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WE HAD A SIMILAR INSTANCE WHERE WE HAD, UH, VERY NARROW DRIVEWAYS AND THAT WE WERE ASKED TO ADD SOME OFF STREET PARKING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE VISITING, YOU KNOW, FOR THANKSGIVING OR THE HOLIDAYS OR WHATEVER.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD THEM OR ASKED THEM TO ADD THESE ADDITIONAL, WHEN I THINK THE PLANS FIRST CAME IN, THESE FOUR FOUR UP HERE WERE NOT PART OF THE PLAN.

SO WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THAT TO MEET THAT PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, ASK FROM A PREVIOUS, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THESE FOUR HERE WERE THERE 'CAUSE THEY SERVICE THE POOL AND OBVIOUSLY IF ANYBODY WAS TO USE THEM, YOU KNOW, DURING A HOLIDAY OR FAMILY VISIT OR WHATEVER THEY WOULD DO.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS FOR

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RENTAL USE ONLY, RIGHT? THIS IS FOR RENTAL USE ONLY.

OH, WEEKLY RENTAL.

THIS IS, WE ARE, THIS IS LONG-TERM RENT, NOT SHORT-TERM RENT.

UM, WE WOULD, I GUESS WE WOULD NEED SOME COVENANTS IN ON THAT TO, TO, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY COVENANTS OR RESTRICTIONS THAT THAT WOULD LIMIT.

YEAH, SO I HAD, THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE QUESTION, ONE OF THE THREE QUESTIONS I HAD.

SO IT, IT, IT'S RENTAL ONLY, ONLY THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, THEY'RE GONNA MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP AND IT'S KINDA LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX BASICALLY, WHERE THEY, THEY'LL BE RENTED OUT SOMEBODY'S, UM, SO IT IS LONG-TERM RENTAL.

WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE, DO WE HAVE CONFIRMATION ON THAT OR THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THE DEVELOPER.

WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED SHORT-TERM RENTAL WITH, WITH THEM.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVEN'T SEEN COVENANTS IN RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD RESTRICT THAT.

SO, AND THE DEVELOPER IS HERE TODAY TO ALSO, UM, IF SO, THERE'S QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK THEM, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THEM AVAILABLE TO COME UP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

OKAY.

THAT, SO THAT WOULD BE I GUESS FOR HIM.

UM, MY SECOND QUESTION WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY FOR HIM ALSO, I GUESS LAST QUESTION FOR YOU WOULD BE, ELMO YOU SAID, UH, NOT THAT I'M LOOKING FOR THIS TO WORK FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT JUST WHAT IN THE LMO DOESN'T ALLOW THIS WORK FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING? SO IN, IN THE L M O WORKFORCE HOUSING IS A PRINCIPAL USE AND IN, IN THE R M A ZONING DISTRICT, UNDER THE PRINCIPAL USE TABLE, IT IS NOT A PERMITTED USE, UH, PER SE.

IT'S NOT TO SAY YOU COULDN'T DO WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT A, I GUESS IT, WHAT I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIND A THE BY SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T, IT'S, IT, IT, MISSY WOULD LIKE TO, SHE'S OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING GURU ON THIS.

SO THE TOWN HAS A WORKFORCE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.

I'M SORRY, MISSY LU, UH, PLANNING DIRECTOR.

UM, AND THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM IS ALLOWED IN OUR R FOUR DISTRICTS ONLY.

THIS IS IN R EIGHT.

SO, UM, THEN THAT IS WHERE OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING INCENTIVE PROGRAM IS.

UM, SO THIS IS IN THE R EIGHT DISTRICT.

AS TREY WAS INDICATING, IT DOESN'T PREVENT SOMEONE FROM BUILDING A PRODUCT THAT, THAT COULD BE WORKFORCE HOUSING.

IT JUST WOULDN'T BE PART OF OUR PROGRAM WITH THE COVENANTS AND THE AGREEMENT, WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM.

ABSOLUTELY, WE CERTAINLY WOULD BE.

UM, WHEN WE DO OUR FULL, UM, L M O OVERHAUL, WE CERTAINLY ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT OUR EXISTING WORKFORCE HOUSING CODE THAT'S WRITTEN.

WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE LOOKING AT WRITING A HOUSING INCENTIVE CHAPTER.

AND CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER DISTRICTS WHERE WORKFORCE HOUSING SHOULD BE APPLICABLE.

OTHER QUESTIONS ARE KIND OF SPIT.

COMMISSIONER DEIS, I'M DOING SOME SIMPLE MATH IN MY HEAD.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE COULD BE UP TO MAYBE 160 VEHICLES IN THIS AREA.

IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO WHETHER THERE MIGHT, MIGHT, MIGHT NEED TO BE A TRAFFIC LIGHT EXITING THIS AREA ONTO THE MAIN ROAD, I GUESS SPANISH WELLS? HAS THAT BEEN LOOKED AT? WE DID NOT REQUIRE, AGAIN, BRIAN EBERT TOWN HILTON HEAD DEVELOPMENT, UH, SERVICES MANAGER, UM, OUR CHA OUR TALENT ENGINEER CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UM, AS RECENTLY, I THINK IT WAS FINISHED IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

SO IN FUTURE OUT YEARS, THERE IS SOME CONSIDERATION FOR, AT THE INTERSECTION OF JONESVILLE AND SPANISH WELLS FOR BOTH, EITHER A ROUNDABOUT OR FOR ANOTHER, UH, SIGNAL OR INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT.

BUT THOSE ARE IN FUTURE OUT YEARS.

I THINK IT WAS 2045 IS WHEN IT WAS PROJECTED AT THE TIME.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, COUNSEL WILL BE MADE AWARE DOWN THE ROAD.

YES.

CAROL O'NEAL.

YEAH.

A CONCERN I BRING UP, UM, PROBABLY ALL TOO OFTEN IS I SEE THE WORK THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LEAVING, HAVING TO LEAVE THE, THE COMMUNITY FOR WHATEVER REASON.

UM, IS THERE ANY PLACE THAT WE KEEP TRACK OF THOUGH, WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE FOLKS? 'CAUSE GIVEN THE PERSPECTIVE RENTAL DIFFERENCES NOW THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING OUT OF THOSE TRAILERS ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD HOMES IN, IN DUPLEX.

SO DOES ANYBODY KEEP TRACK OF THAT? UM, MEANING IS THERE A DATABASE OF OUR LONG-TERM RENTALS WHO ARE DISPLACED BECAUSE OF YEAH, I'M AWARE.

I

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DON'T THINK IT'S AN ISSUE JUST FOR THIS PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S, AS WE GO THROUGH THESE DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS AND WE DISPLACE PEOPLE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO COME INTO THE NEW PLACES, ARE WE PAYING ANY ATTENTION TO, TO WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO OR WE'RE JUST COMPOUNDING OUR, OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROBLEM? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UM, IT'S ONE THAT THE, UM, HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE HAS, HAS IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THEIR FIRST ACTION ITEMS. AND WE'RE WORKING ON AN ANTI-DISPLACEMENT STRATEGY AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN.

AND WE WILL BE DEVELOPING PROGRAMMING TO, UM, HAVE BASELINE DATA ON SOME OF OUR EXISTING, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE ISLAND.

AND WE'LL HAVE STRATEGIES TO ASSIST WITH DISPLACEMENT WHEN REDEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS SHOULD OCCUR.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON IT, UM, BUT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE IT IN PLACE.

MR. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER WHALEY? CAN I TALK ABOUT INTENSITY OF USE A LITTLE BIT? UM, IF I RECALL WHAT YOU SAID, YOU SAID, DO YOU WANNA USE THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT, THE SEWER AND STUFF.

UM, THE MULTIPLIER HERE IS FROM 24 MOBILE HOMES, WHICH NOW STANDARD MOBILE HOME MAYBE HAS TWO BEDROOMS, ONE BATH, HOW MANY BATHROOMS ARE EXPECTED IN EACH OF THESE UNITS? AND HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY LIKE SUSTAINABILITY OR INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS ON THE LAND AS IT'S CURRENTLY USED? AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THIS PARCEL AND THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE WON'T BE STRESSED BY THIS? BASICALLY IT'S LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT MULTIPLIER.

SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MORE OF AN ENGINEER QUESTION.

AND WE DO HAVE THEIR ENGINEER HERE WHO HAS DONE THAT, DONE THOSE, UH, NUMBERS WITHOUT YOU.

SO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

HOW YOU DOING? UH, NATHAN STUR STIR ENGINEERING FROM THE CIVIL ENGINEERS PROJECT.

UM, WE'VE MET AND COORDINATED WITH HILTON HEAD, P SS D, UM, THEY JUST HAVE TO PAY THE INCREASE IN CAPACITY FEES.

THEY DO HAVE ADEQUATE UTILITIES ON SITE TO TREAT THE HOMES.

AND WE'VE GOT APPROVAL FROM BONEHEAD PSB FOR THIS.

UH, I'M NOT SURE THE BATHROOM, IS IT THREE, TWO OR THREE BATHROOMS? YES.

ROUGHLY FOUR BEDROOM HOMES HAD THREE AND A HALF BATH, THREE BEDROOM HOME, TWO AND A HALF BATH.

THERE'S BEEN NO PRIOR SEEPAGE PROBLEMS ON THAT PROPERTY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'LL TRADE TREY, LET ME ASK IS, IS THE NEXT PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION GONNA BE ADDRESSING APPENDIX C THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN DONE? ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA HAVE THE, UH, APPLICANT ADDRESS THAT FOR YOU ALL.

SO LET ME, SO LET, LET, LET'S FINISH OTHER QUESTIONS ON WHAT TREY IS NOW TALKING TO US ABOUT ON THIS PART OF THE APPLICATION.

BRUCE, IF I COULD, I JUST, I WANTED TO ADD ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE, UH, TRACKING OF THAT THAT WAS RECOMMENDED THERE EARLIER.

UM, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT NOT ONLY TO TRACK, YOU KNOW, WHERE FOLKS ARE GOING AND, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THEM, BUT ALSO WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WHAT, WHAT THE PREVIOUS RENT SITUATION WAS AND WHAT THE, WHAT THE NEW RENT SITUATION WAS.

BECAUSE WE'RE GOING FROM A, UH, JUST A, A, A SITUATION WHERE WE HAD RENTS OF 16 TO $1,800, WHICH WOULD A MONTH, WHICH WOULD SUPPORT INCOMES OF AROUND 57,000 TO, TO $64,000 BASED ON 30% OF YOUR GROSS INCOME TO, YOU KNOW, A NEW RENT OF 31 95, WHICH GETS YOU, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN INCOME.

AND I JUST THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE, WE TRACK THAT TOO BECAUSE, UH, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER WE'RE FILLING THE GAP WITH WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HANS, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? WOULD THIS BE THE TIME, TREY, IS THIS THE TIME TO HEAR ABOUT APPEND THE RELOCATION? RIGHT.

SO I'M GONNA HAVE THEM GO OVER THAT SO YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THAT AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ASK ABOUT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL FOR THAT.

UM, I'M NOT SURE WHO WANTS TO GO OVER THE CONTINGENCY PLAN.

GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, CHAIRMAN MEMBERS, UH, MY NAME IS JUDD CARSTENS.

I'M WITH WHITMER JONES KEEFER, UH, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND LAND PLANNERS WORKING WITH MR. CORY WEZEL, THE PROPERTY OWNER.

UM, AS TREY MENTIONED, THIS WAS A MOBILE HOME RENTAL COMMUNITY.

UH, IT WAS UNDER A SINGLE OWNERSHIP OF MULTIPLE PARCELS.

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THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS A COMBINATION INTO A LITTLE OVER FIVE ACRE PARCEL AND THUS APPLYING THE DENSITIES AS PER THE L M O.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, 41 UNIT MAX.

UH, AND THIS PLAN REPRESENTS OBVIOUSLY THE 40 UNITS.

UM, WHEN IT COMES TO FLOOR AREA COVERAGES, WE ARE UNDER OUR IMPERVIOUS OVERALL COVERAGES.

UH, WE ARE UTILIZING, AS HE'S MENTIONED, A LOT OF THE EXISTING, UH, UH, ROADWAY.

AND, UM, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, WE'RE NOT IMPACTING ANY OF THE SIGNIFICANT OR SPECIMEN TREES.

UH, THERE'S BASICALLY, UH, WE'VE IMPROVED KIND OF THE END OF THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, BEFORE IT WAS MORE OF A HAMMERHEAD KIND OF END.

UH, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETE, UH, FULL CIRCLE AT THE END OF THAT.

UM, AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY L M O OR PLAN RELATED QUESTIONS.

UH, MR. WINSELL WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY KIND OF RENTAL, UH, WORK AS FAR AS THE PROGRAMMING THAT THEY ANTICIPATE THE PROJECT COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARSONS? ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, IN PREVIOUS, UH, PROJECTS IS VARYING SETBACKS.

UM, UH, WE, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH SOME, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT, UM, THAT BASICALLY THERE ARE CARBON COPIES OF EACH OTHER.

IN FACT, THERE IS ONE JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS H THIS AREA THAT EVERY HOUSE LOOKS IDENTICAL.

UM, AND THAT, 'CAUSE I, I RENTED A HOUSE ONCE NEAR THERE IN, IN SPANISH WELLS AND I WOULD DRIVE BY IT AND I SAW THEM BUILDING, IT'S LIKE JUST CARBON COPIES THE ENTIRE TIME.

DO THEY HAVE VARYING SUSPECTS? IS THE ARCHITECTURALLY IS IT DIFFERENT EACH HOME OR ARE THEY CARBON COPIES? THEY'RE ALL VERY SIMILAR FOOTPRINTS.

UH, WE ARE GOING BEFORE D R B UH, SUBSEQUENTLY.

UM, WE DO HAVE THE COLOR PALETTE.

UM, I'M ACTUALLY ON THE D R B .

UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE OUR ISLAND PALETTE AS FAR AS COLORS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AVOIDING HIGH CONTRAST, WE'RE AVOIDING WHITE OR BLACK.

IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THAT MIDDLE RANGE.

UM, WE, IT'S TREY, DO YOU HAVE THE PLANTING PLAN OR IS THIS THE ONLY, THIS IS ALL THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THEIR PACKET.

OKAY.

SO, SO OVERALL WITH THIS PROJECT AND THIS PROPERTY ESPECIALLY, IS IT'S GOT A VERY LIMITED QUOTE UNQUOTE PUBLIC FRONTAGE ON SPANISH WELLS ROAD.

UM, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY THERE NOW YOU PROBABLY SEE THE LIVE OAKS AND YOU SEE THIS KIND OF STRAIGHT, RELATIVELY STRAIGHT DRIVE MORE SO, UM, ONCE YOU GET INTO THE PROPERTY, WE ARE PROPOSING A FULL ON STREET SCAPE.

UH, SO THERE WILL BE SOME REPETITION TO THIS, BUT ALSO THAT EXISTING STREET NETWORK WHERE IT DOES MAKE THE TURNS WILL HELP TO KIND OF BREAK UP THAT STRAIGHT LINE.

I KNOW OFF OF SPANISH WELLS ROAD THERE'S AT SUNDERLAND POINT, WHICH IS THE LONG RUN AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE SEEK TO OBVIOUSLY AVOID.

UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE IDEA OF COMING IN AND YOU'RE COMING IN ON ARCHITECTURE AND THEN MOVING DOWN AND HAVING THESE, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF TURN, THESE AREN'T NECESSARILY THAT LONG OF RUNS, UH, IN, IN, IN START THINKING ABOUT BLOCKS AS FAR AS THE STRAIGHT SECTIONS HERE.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, TREY, WHICH IS THE NEXT PART OF THE PRESENTATION YOU WANT US TO DO? SO THEN WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE TRAILER AGAIN.

SENIOR PLANNER FOR THE RECORD.

UH, WE WILL MOVE FOR THE, UM, CONTINGENCY PLAN AND THAT WOULD BE AGAIN, THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ASK FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL QUESTIONS.

ANYTHING TO GO TOWARDS THOSE.

UM, DID WE KNOW WHO WAS GONNA PRESENT POWER CONTINGENCY PLAN? THANK YOU.

CORY WEZEL.

I RUN CVO CAPITAL.

I'M THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROJECT.

UM, WE HAD 13 MOBILE HOMES THERE TO BE CLEAR, THERE WASN'T 14, THERE WAS 13.

ONE WAS A LEASE, LAND LEASE WHERE THE, UH, CURRENT OWNER MOVED HIS HOME UPON EXPIRATION OF THE LEASE.

UM, ALL LEASES ENDED IN JUNE OF 2023.

ALL RESIDENTS WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THEIR LEASE AND ADDITIONAL FOUR MONTHS AT THE SAME RENTAL RATE WHILE THEY SEEK NEW HOUSING.

RENTAL LEVER LETTERS WERE DELIVERED IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND OUR PROPERTY MANAGER, UM, THAT MANAGED THE PROPERTY WAS FLUENT IN BOTH LANGUAGES.

FOUR, THE UNITS CHOSE NOT TO RENEW AS THEY HAD ALREADY SECURED ADDITIONAL HOUSING ON OR NEAR THE ISLAND.

WHEN RESIDENTS MOVED OUT, THEY'RE GIVEN FULL REFUNDS IMMEDIATELY OF THEIR SECURITY DEPOSIT.

REGARDLESS OF THE CONDITION OF THE UNIT, THE CHECK IS HANDED TO THEM IN PERSON, THUS THEY'RE GETTING IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO THE FUNDS IF NEEDED.

WE'VE HAD SOME RESIDENTS THAT RENEWED FOR THE FOUR YEAR, FOUR MONTH OPTION, UM, BUT MOVED OUT EARLY 'CAUSE THEY

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HAD FOUND ADDITIONAL HOUSING OR HAD ACTUALLY MADE A PURCHASE.

THESE REQUESTS, UM, WERE IMMEDIATELY HONORED AND FOLLOWED THE SAME DEPOSIT PROCESS.

UM, UNITS WERE MADE AVAILABLE FOR SALE AND SOME WERE SOLD TO REFERRALS FROM OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS.

ALTHOUGH RESIDENTS WERE AWARE OF THE HOMES THAT WERE FOR SALE, NONE DID, UM, FOLLOW THROUGH OR MAKE INITIATIONS TO US TO MAKE THOSE PURCHASES.

AT THIS TIME, ALL HOMES HAVE BEEN SOLD TO DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS WHO OWN BUSINESSES ON OR OFF THE ISLAND.

UH, WE'VE SENT LETTERS TO THE BUYERS OF THE HOMES RECOMMENDING OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS AS OUTSTANDING TENANTS.

THOSE CURRENT OWNERS HAVE A LIST WITH ALL RESIDENT INFORMATION IF THEY CHOSE TO DO SO, TO BE ABLE TO CONTACT THEM IF THEY WOULD WANT TO RE TO RENT FROM THAT NEW OWNER.

UM, AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT KNOW THE EXACT LOCATION OF WHERE ALL RESIDENTS WENT.

HOWEVER, WE DID FEEL MANY RENTAL VERIFICATION REQUESTS FROM VARIOUS HOUSING COMMUNITIES ON THE ISLAND AND AROUND THE ISLAND.

ALL OF OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS WILL BE WELCOMED BACK AT THE COMPLETION OF OUR PROJECT.

WE HAVE THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION AND WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM ACCORDINGLY.

WE'LL ALSO LOOK AT MOVING, MOVING INCENTIVES AS WELL AS POSSIBILITIES OF WAIVING APPLICATION FEES, ET CETERA.

PRIOR TO OUR ACQUISITION, OLIVE OF SHELL WAS A MARKET R RENTAL COMMUNITY.

CURRENT RESIDENTS HAD RENTAL RATES RANGING BETWEEN 1600 AND 1800 AT THE TIME.

RENTAL RENTS ENDED NOT FINALIZED.

FOR THE NEW HOMES, WE ARE LOOKING AT A RENT BASIS OF AROUND 31 95, AND THAT WILL DEPEND ON FINAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS, INTEREST RATES AND FLOOR PLANS.

AS STATED PREVIOUSLY BY STAFF LMO, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOVERNMENT, NOT A GOVERNMENT APPROVED HOUSING OR FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND THE L M O DOES NOT PROVIDE THE SPECIFIC SITE TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING.

UM, YOU HAD MANY QUESTIONS REGARDING QUESTIONS FOR CORY.

UH, COMMISSIONER A LITTLE CONFUSED.

HELP, HELP ME CLARIFY IN MY MIND, ARE THESE GONNA BE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED OR OWNED BY A COMPANY AND THEY'RE ALL OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER OF THE COMPANY? CURRENTLY OWNED BY, BY ONE INDIVIDUAL COMPANY.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE TAKEN THE PARCEL AND CHANGED IT TO ONE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT.

ONE, UM, SPECIFIC OWNER.

THAT'S WHAT I HAD UNDERSTOOD BEFORE HE, HE STARTED PRESENTING.

BUT THEN I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU OFFERED, SO THERE SOMETHING TO SOMEONE THERE, THEY'RE MANUFACTURED HOMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE, SO THOSE INDIVIDUAL MANUFACTURED HOMES CAN BE MOVED.

AND THOSE ARE WHAT WE'RE OFFERED? YES, SIR.

YES SIR.

SORRY, THE, THE CURRENT, UM, CHATTEL PROPERTY OR MANUFACTURED HOME THAT IS ON THE SITE IS WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO.

SORRY.

THANKS JOE.

UM, SO BASICALLY THIS IS JUST GONNA BE A B T R, AM I CORRECT? SAY THAT AGAIN.

R BILL TO RENT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

WE CALL IT SS F R, BUT SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL? YES.

YEAH.

YES SIR.

OKAY.

NOW IS THIS GONNA HAVE THE SAME MAKEUP AS THE DEVELOPMENT DOWN SPANISH HILLS ROAD THAT WAS BUILT BY VILLAGE PARK? WHEN YOU SAY SAME MAKEUP, CAN YOU BE MORE CLEAR? IT'S GONNA LOOK THE SAME.

NO, SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE, UM, BECAUSE THOSE HAVE FOUR BEDROOMS ALSO.

SO OUR DESIGN IS VERY UNIQUE AND NOT DONE ON THE ISLAND YET.

YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT UP A LOT ABOUT PARKING AND QUESTIONS ON GARAGES, ET CETERA.

UM, WHICH YOU, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DETAIL THEY GIVE YOU, BUT OUR SPECIFIC PROPERTY ALLOWS TWO CARS TO BE PARKED UNDER AND A MASSIVE STORAGE ROOM ON THE REAR.

SO WE BELIEVE CARS WILL BE PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY AND, EXCUSE ME, IN THE GARAGE.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, NO, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCES THAT ARE NOT THE SAME.

WE HAVE MULTI-STORY ELEVATIONS, PRIMARIES ON THE SEVEN AND FIRST FLOOR.

UM, WE BELIEVE OUR DESIGN, UM, IS DIFFERENT IN A GOOD WAY.

WE ALSO SCATTERED STEP THE BUILDINGS SO THAT WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN IT, IT WAS A QUESTION ABOUT HOW THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME.

THEY DON'T LOOK THE SAME BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN AND HOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STREETSCAPE, I CAN'T CHANGE THE ROAD OR THE WAY THE ROAD WOULD LAY OUT.

THERE'S ONLY ONE REAL DESIGN FOR THE SIZE OF THIS PARCEL, BUT THE BUILDINGS HAVE A SETBACK ACROSS AND VERTICALLY STAGGERED .

OKAY.

SO EACH BUILDING WOULD BE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO SEE, RIGHT? AWESOME.

YEAH.

'CAUSE IN THIS DESIGN, IT'S JUST KIND OF JUST, THEY'RE ALL JUST BLOCKS AND IT'S HARD TO CREATE A COLOR SITE PLAN.

WE CAN SHOW YOU.

BUT, UM, THAT WOULD GIVE YOU, UM, SOME MATTER MORE INFORMATION ON HOW THAT LOOKS WHEN YOU GO DOWN THE STREETSCAPE.

THAT'S VARIANCE SETBACK.

THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT COLORS.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND WE'VE USED ALL OF THE COASTAL COLORS THAT ARE DESIGNED IN YOUR APPROVED, UM, UM, DB'S.

UH, I I CALL IT THEIR COLOR SKEW.

UM, WE'RE NOT USING ANY WHITES.

WE'RE NOT USING ANYTHING THAT, UM, WOULD STAND OUT AS SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, I BELIEVE OR ARE DUE, EXCUSE ME.

UH, YEAH, SO THE, I GUESS THE LONG TERM RENTAL QUESTION IS STILL THERE.

UM, UH, VERSUS THE SHORT TERM, IT'S HUGE OR TOPIC ON THE ISLAND.

UH, AND SO I IS IT, IS IT WRITTEN IN YOUR, UH, UH, H O A OR ORGANIZATION THAT IT'S GONNA BE LONG TERM? WE ARE CURRENTLY NOT LOOKING AT ANYTHING THAT IS, THERE'S A VERY DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF SHORT AND LONG TERM.

OKAY.

SO I BELIEVE YOU MEAN LESS THAN A WEEK

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AS SHORT TERM.

SEE, I VALUE SHORT TERM AS LESS THAN TWO OR THREE MONTHS.

SO I, I REALLY CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL ASPECTS AS IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL COMMUNITY.

UM, BUT WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY TARGETING THINGS THAT ARE DAY-TO-DAY RENTAL.

SO A QUESTION FROM STAFF, THIS IS, THIS PROPERTY IS, IS, UH, ZONED R M A.

AND SO BY RIGHT, THIS DEVELOPMENT FITS WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION OF AN EXCEPTION TO THE L M O, IS THAT CORRECT? MISS E, SORRY.

HI, MISSY LUECK, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

UM, THERE ARE NO, UH, PROHIBITIONS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN ANY OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS.

NO.

SO THEY, THEY COULD BY THE CODE, UM, DO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND SEEK A SHORT-TERM RENTAL LICENSE AND BUSINESS LICENSE.

UM, AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS, YES, THEY COULD HAVE PRIVATE COVENANTS THAT WOULD BE PRIVATE COVENANTS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT, UM, THE RENTAL TERMS SHOULD, SHOULD THEY WISH TO AND RECORD THOSE.

BUT AGAIN, THOSE WOULD BE PRIVATE COVENANTS AND LIKEWISE, THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, IF, IF ONE PERSON WAS RENTING IT FOR A 12 MONTH PERIOD AND WANTED TO SUBLET IT FOR THREE WEEKS AT A TIME TO A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE PROFESSOR SWELL.

WELL, THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK OUT THROUGH THEIR RENTAL LEASE TERMS. UM, BUT WE, NOTHING IN THE TOWN PREVENTS THAT FROM HAPPENING.

NO.

OKAY.

WE WOULD NOT, UH, YEAH.

THE, THE FINAL PARAGRAPH FROM WHITMER JONES KIEFER STATES THAT ABOUT THE EXISTING FABRIC OF THE ISLAND RESIDENTIAL WILL PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ISLAND RESIDENTS TO BE CLOSER TO THEIR JOBS INVOLVED AS FULL-TIME RESIDENTS OF THE ISLAND.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT TO ME.

THAT'S GREAT.

UH, IF YOU ADD IN SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THAT'S NOT THAT AT ALL.

IT'S SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

SO AM I READING SOMETHING WRONG OR, OR, UM, AM I READING SOMETHING WRONG? SO MR. HENS, UM, SOMEONE COULD BE, UM, SOLD THEIR HOME AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE WAITING FOR THEIR NEW HOME TO BE BUILT AND THEY ONLY NEED A SIX MONTH LEASE.

BY DEFINITION.

IT'S A SHORT TERM LEASE.

SO, OKAY.

YOU'RE ASKING FROM MY POINT IS ONE WEEK MAYBE IS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING ONE WEEK VACATION ROUNDS? THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING.

UM, WE'VE MADE NO DECISIONS REGARDING, BUT AT THE SAME POINT, IT'S NOT THE TYPE OF DESIGN THAT WE'RE USING FOR THIS ASSET.

QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER WHALEY, UM, HAVE YOU BUILT ANYTHING ON THE ISLAND BEFORE OR WITHIN, UH, THE GREATER BLOCK FROM BUFORD AREA? UH, ANY RENTAL HOMES? I'VE BUILT MANY HOMES.

I'VE NOT NO, NO DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS EITHER ON THE, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOU.

MAYBE MY COLLEAGUES ARE, BUT HAVE YOU BUILT ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN THE AREA LIKE BUFORD COUNTY, JASPER COUNTY? NOT IN BUFORD COUNTY OR JASPER COUNTY? NO.

THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES WE'VE DONE ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY.

I DID READ THAT ON YOUR WEBSITE.

UM, HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE YOU CONVERTED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS? ZERO ABSOLUTE.

ZERO OTHER COMMISSION QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I THINK THE, UH, REMOVAL AND THE TRYING TO REMOVE THE, UM, MOBILE HOMES OR HOWEVER YOU WANNA CALL 'EM, IS, IS GOOD IDEA.

I THINK IT'S A SUSTAIN MORE SUSTAINABLE IDEA.

UM, SO I COMPLIMENT YOU ON THAT, UM, THAN THAT.

NO HAPPY.

I'M SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS UP HERE.

I'M GONNA, UH, OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, UH, US ON THIS TOPIC.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM.

WOULD YOU COME FORWARD PLEASE? HI, UH, I'M AMY FEE.

I'M A LONG-TERM RESIDENT AND FOR SPEECH, AND I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, UH, GIVEN THE NARRATIVE AND SOME OTHER WONDERFUL QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL POSES.

SO THE NARRATIVE SAYS THAT IT'S FOR ENTRY LEVEL YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND FAMILIES, BUT YOU'RE BUILDING FOUR BEDROOMS AND THREE AND A HALF BATHROOMS FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AT $3,200 A MONTH.

I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN BALANCE WITH YOUNG PROFESSIONALS.

I MEAN, AND DO YOU ANTICIPATE THEN PEOPLE MOVING IN OR MULTIPLE FAMILIES COMING IN, RENTING THOSE, LIKE YOU COULD HAVE TWO YOUNG FAMILIES COMING IN FOR FOUR BEDROOMS THERE.

SO HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I HEARD, UM, IN THE CONVERSATION.

ANYONE ELSE CARING TO SPEAK?

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NONE.

UM, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT THAT WE WANT TO, UH, MAKE ANY STAND ON ON THIS PRESENTATION AT ALL OR JUST TAKE IT FOR INFORMATION? THE LAST QUESTION I HAD, SORRY.

NO STAND, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, PREVIEW THESE POTENTIAL NEW DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE OUT AND ABOUT, IT'S GOOD FOR US TO, AS PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BROWN .

WHY IS IT A DIFFERENT COLOR ON THIS? YEAH, DO I I WAS SEEING IF THEY HAD IT MARKED ON THE YEAH, I APOLOGIZE.

IT, IT, IT SHOWS UP ON, OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, ON A DIFFERENT RENDERING, SHOWS UP A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

SO THE, SO THAT EXISTING CONCRETE ROADWAY, WE'RE GONNA SUPPLEMENT THAT.

SO THAT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHERE IT'S GONNA GET CUT AND, AND ADDED ONTO.

UH, SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY IT'S A DIFFERENT HATCH, BUT IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A CONCRETE, YEAH.

SO THERE'S ACTUALLY LESS IMPACT, UH, ENVIRONMENTALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT CARRYING UP A WHOLE BUNCH OF CONCRETE.

I THINK WE'RE, YES MA'AM.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST TO, UH, TOWN STAFF IS YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF THE, UH, CONCERNS TODAY.

UM, AND I THINK THERE WAS, UH, UH, COUNCIL, UH, COMMISSIONER WHO DID SAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE APPROPRIATELY SCALED FOR THE FABRIC OF THE ISLAND AND THAT, UM, IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON FULL-TIME RESIDENTS OF THE ISLAND.

SO WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT HOWEVER THIS IS APPROVED, THAT INTENT IN MIND.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WELL LET ME ADD MY THANKS, COREY, JUDD, UH, TREY.

BRIAN, EVERYBODY.

MISSY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PREPAR FOR THIS MEAL TODAY.

AND UH, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER ES SO WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED.