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CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY[1. Call to Order]
2023.IF YOU'LL JOIN AND, AND STAND AND SAY, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF THE FLAG, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FROM WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
IF YOU'LL CONTINUE STATING, WHILE WE HAVE REV, REVEREND GENERAL K, JOIN US FROM SOUTH AFRICAN BAPTIST CHURCH MAYOR, TOWN COUNCIL, AND OUR LOVELY CITIZENS.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK FOR A MOMENT OF SOLEMN PRAYER FOR OUR WAR, RAVAGE VICTIMS, UM, ACROSS THE GLOBE, UM, THE ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS.
WE ASK THAT WE JUST DO A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER.
ALMIGHTY GOD KEEPING OF OUR LIVES LIGHT TO OUR MINDS AND FEEDER OF OUR SOULS.
WE COME THANKING YOU FOR UNMERITED SAVER ON THIS DAY, BECOME QUIETLY CONTEMPLATING THE BENEFITS YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON THIS HILTON HEAD ISLAND COMMUNITY OF A MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL.
AND WE CONFESS THAT WE TAKE MUCH FOR GRANTED AS WE FIND OURSELVES CAUGHT UP IN THE FRANTIC PURSUIT OF GOALS.
OH GOD, OUR ASK THAT YOU OPEN OUR EYES, WHICH HAVE SOMETIMES FAILED TO SEE THE BLESSINGS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND ARE RECEIVING.
GIVE US A NEW SIGHT TO SEE THIS COMMUNITY AS YOU SEE IT.
POUR INTO OUR HEARTS OF GRATITUDE THAT WILL NOURISH THE SEEDS OF GROWTH AND COMMITMENT BY THIS COUNCIL, FOSTERING A HARVEST FOR ALL OF YOUR PEOPLE.
CONTINUE TO PROVIDE WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, AND UNDERSTANDING TO ALL OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
AND THEN ON GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY IN CHRIST JESUS'.
[4.Adoption of the Agenda]
WE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA TODAY, MAYOR? NO, SIR.HAVE A MOTION, UH, TO ADOPT THE AGENDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[5. Approval of the Minutes]
HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THREE DIFFERENT SETS.AUGUST 15TH, SEPTEMBER 19TH AND OCTOBER 3RD.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 15TH, 19TH AND OCTOBER 3RD.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[6.a. Report of the Town Manager]
DO YOU HAVE ANY REPORTS THIS AFTERNOON? I DO.GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
A COUPLE THINGS, A COUPLE STAFF RELATED ITEMS, ACTUALLY.
UM, FIRST, ANGIE STONE, OUR ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER.
ANGIE GRADUATED FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE, WHICH, WHICH I THINK IS JUST A, A FABULOUS AND A GREAT STEP IN, IN WHAT ALREADY IS A, IS AN AMAZING CAREER, ANGIE, FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW.
THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL MANAGER CERTIFICATION PROGRAM DEVELOPED THROUGH COLLABORATION OF PRACTITIONERS AND ACADEMICS.
SO THE SOUTH CAROLINA CITY COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE LAKE CITY PARTNERSHIP WORK WITH FRANCIS MARION UNIVERSITY, COASTAL CAROLINA UNIVERSITY, AND THE COLLEGE OF CHAR CHARLESTON TO MAKE THIS AN IMMERSIVE AND COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAMS. SO EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I'D LOOK UP, I SAY, ANGE, WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING? AND SHE'D BE TELLING ME ABOUT ALL HER HARD WORK SHE'S DOING AND THE PRESENTATIONS AND THE COLLABORATION WITH HER, WITH YOUR, UM, CLASSMATES.
AND THE PROGRAM PREPARES PARTICIPANTS TO AFFECT CHANGE IN THEIR ORGANIZATIONS AND IMPROVE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY SERVE.
ANOTHER, UH, STAFF ANNOUNCEMENT.
JOHN TROYER SITTING IN THE BACK.
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THE ONE WITH THE HAND UP WITH THE BLUE SHIRT.AND JOHN JOHN'S ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT AND, AND JOHN'S LAST DAY IS THIS WEEK.
SO I, I CAN'T BELIEVE, UH, ALREADY, JOHN, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT LONG AGO WE STARTED WORKING TOGETHER, LET ALONE THAT YOU ANNOUNCED YOUR RETIREMENT.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY WITH EVERYBODY HERE, A VERY SPECIAL THANK YOU TO YOU, UM, FROM ME ON BEHALF OF THE SENIOR TEAM AND ON BEHALF OF THIS ORGANIZATION.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND THROUGH THE YEARS.
AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE, UM, ESPECIALLY AS, AS A LEADER IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU MY REPORT, SIR.
[6.b. Recognition of Breast Cancer Awareness Month]
ACCUSER AWARENESS MONTH, AS YOU CAN SEE BY LOOKING AROUND.WE'RE ALL DAWNING SOME PINK TODAY IN HONOR, UH, OF THOSE WHO'VE BEEN AFFECTED.
UM, AND WE'D LIKE TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT.
I BELIEVE, UH, STAFF HAS PARTICIPATED IN A FEW THINGS TODAY AS WELL.
AND WE HAVE ANDREW DAVIS THAT'S GONNA TAKE IT OVER AND SHARE A FEW MORE WORDS.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL VERY MUCH.
ONCE AGAIN, IT PROVES THAT REAL MEN AND WOMEN CAN WEAR PINK.
SO DON'T THINK OTHERWISE EVERYBODY.
SO, AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF AND EVERYONE IN THE ROOM WHO WAS WEARING PINK TODAY.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH.
AND WE WANTED TO HONOR THAT HERE AT THE TOWN BECAUSE ONE IN EVERY EIGHT WOMEN DURING THEIR LIFETIME CAN GET BREAST CANCER.
THAT'S ONE EVERY TWO MINUTES, WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER TO THINK.
AND THAT THERE ARE 44,000 PEOPLE IN THIS NATION THAT COULD DIE THIS YEAR FROM BREAST CANCER ALONE.
SO WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING HERE AT THE TOWN.
WE DIDN'T JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
I'D LIKE TO BRING UP THE FOLKS FROM YOU, FROM MEMORIAL HERE WITH ME AS WELL.
THEY'RE GOING TO HELP OUT DURING THIS TIME ON OCTOBER 30TH FROM 9:00 AM UNTIL 1:00 PM WE'LL BE HOLDING AN EVENT AT SHELTER COVE FOR YOU CAN GET A FREE BREAST CHECK BY A PROFESSIONAL OUT HERE IN THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS TRUCK.
IT'S AN AMAZING PROCESS THAT THEY WANT TO HELP OUT, THEY WANNA DO A PART.
AND NOW THAT THEY'VE, UH, JOINED US HERE ON THE ISLAND THROUGH THE ISLAND IMAGING CENTER, THEY'RE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
AND I'D LIKE TO GET ASHTON, TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE.
HI, MY NAME IS ASHTON VITERBO.
I'M WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND CORPORATE HEALTH PROGRAMS WITH BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.
UM, THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS EVENT THAT WE HAVE TEAMED UP WITH YOU GUYS ON FOR OCTOBER 30TH.
UM, I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH OUR MOBILE UNIT QUITE OFTEN.
WE GO OUT IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ON DIFFERENT, UM, CORPORATE LOCATIONS AND PROVIDE DIFFERENT HEALTH SERVICES, WHATEVER THAT, UM, ORGANIZATION OR COMPANY IS NEEDING AT THE TIME.
AS IT'S BREAST HEALTH MONTH, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE BREAST HEALTH EVENT HERE WITH YOU ALL.
UM, WE HAVE A NURSE PRACTITIONER WHO WILL BE ON THE MOBILE UNIT PROVIDING FREE BREAST HEALTH EXAMS. UM, IF THERE IS SOMETHING FOUND IN THAT EXAM.
WE WILL ALSO HAVE A TEAM, UM, SOME PEOPLE FROM MARK'S TEAM, OUR ONCOLOGY TEAM ON SITE TO HELP GUIDE THE NEXT STEPS IF THEY DO NEED TO BE SEEN IN AN OFFICE.
UM, FORTUNATELY WE HAVE A LOCATION HERE NOW WHERE THEY CAN GET A MAMMOGRAM, UM, VERY CLOSE TO HOME IF THEY HAPPEN TO LIVE IN BUFORT OR OAT T AREA.
WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS THERE AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE GREAT ACCESS FOR NEXT STEPS, BUT WE'LL HAVE A FULL TEAM THERE, UM, TO GUIDE PEOPLE IN WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.
UM, IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO GET A BREAST HEALTH EXAM, WE WILL JUST HAVE AMPLE OF INFORMATION THERE.
EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR WHAT ARE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS, SOME THINGS TO LOOK OUT FOR.
UM, SO IT'S ENCOURAGED FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY BREAST HEALTH OR EVEN AS JUST A FEMALE IN GENERAL TO COME TO THIS EVENT.
THEY MAY NOT WANT THE HANDS-ON EXAM, BUT THEY CAN GET SOME GREAT INFORMATION ON AND RESOURCES ON WHAT TO DO FOR THEIR BREAST HEALTH.
UM, I'VE GOT SOME FLYERS I PRINTED OUT AND I PUT 'EM IN THE TABLE IN THE BACK, SO I BROUGHT PLENTY OF FLYERS.
SO GRAB A FEW, TAKE 'EM TO YOUR FAMILY, YOUR LOVED ONES, YOUR COWORKERS, UM, ANYBODY WHO YOU THINK COULD BENEFIT FROM THIS EVENT, BUT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
UM, WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS GREAT EVENT AT THE END OF THE MONTH WITH YOU ALL.
YEAH, ACTUALLY, WE'RE WONDERFUL TO BE PART OF BEFORD MEMORIAL'S TEAM HERE, TRYING TO HELP US OUT DURING THIS TIME.
I THINK EVERYBODY PROBABLY IN THIS ROOM HAS BEEN TOUCHED IN SOME WAY.
MY MOTHER PASSED AWAY FROM BREAST CANCER SEVEN YEARS AGO, SO IT GOES STRAIGHT TO MY HEART WITH THIS.
SO I'M THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS AND HELP A LITTLE BIT IN PUSHING THIS OUT SO WE CAN ALL MAYBE GET SOMETHING PREVENTION AND STOP ANOTHER PERSON FROM PASSING AWAY FROM THIS.
SO, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING PART OF THIS AND FOR AGREEING TO THIS.
AND THANK YOU TO BURFIELD MEMORIAL FOR BEING PART OF THIS AS WELL.
SO BOTH VERY MUCH ETH IF I MAY.
I, I SHARED TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING BREAST CANCER MONTH, THAT MY SISTER IS A SURVIVOR OF BREAST CANCER.
BOTH OF MY GRANDMOTHERS HAD BREAST CANCER.
UM, THIS SATURDAY I'M WALKING WITH PLEDGE THE PINK, UM, IN HONOR OF, UH, BREAST CANCER AWARENESS AND SURVIVORS.
SO I WOULD URGE YOU ALL TO GET TESTED EARLY AND OFTEN TO FIGHT THIS DISEASE.
PLEDGE THE PINK, AND LET'S FIND A CURE.
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YOU.AND I, I'LL TAKE IT ONE STEP FURTHER.
THERE WAS A, A, A GENTLEMAN HERE, AND I'M NOT GONNA USE HIS FULL NAME, BUT HE WAS A LIEUTENANT COLONEL AND, UM, HE WAS A GREAT PARTICIPANT OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND HE PASSED AWAY FROM BREAST CANCER MANY MOONS AGO.
BUT FOR US GUYS OUT THERE, PAY ATTENTION TO YOURSELVES AS WELL.
UH, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO A PRESENTATION
[6.c. Presentation of Joint Hilton Head Island and Beaufort County William HiltonParkway Gateway Corridor Independent Review by CBB TransportationEngineers and Planners - Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager]
ON THE JOINT HILTON HEAD ISLAND, BEAUFORT COUNTY, WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT REVIEW, INDEPENDENT REVIEW BY C C B B, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS AND PLANNERS.SEAN, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CALL YOU OUT EARLIER, BUT YOU GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY.
I, I'LL, I'M I'LL COME IN LINE.
UM, IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE ALL THE PINK TODAY.
SEAN COLE, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER.
I WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF OVERVIEW.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT THE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY GATEWAY PROJECT IN THE IN CHAMBERS AND WITH COUNCIL.
SO I'M GONNA REMIND US OF THE MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT THAT WE ADOPTED THAT TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTED WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL.
UM, I'M GONNA ASK JARED TO INTRODUCE SEAN LIGHT, UH, WITH C B B TO GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION.
AND THEN I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE COMMUNICATE WHAT WAS, UH, PART OF THE SCOPE FOR THE, FOR THE COUNTY PROCURE JOINT EFFORT.
AND THEN WHAT IS DIFFERENT WITH THE, UH, EVALUATION THAT WE'LL DO WITH LOCK MUELLER GROUP, WHO WE JUST PUT ON OUR CONTRACT ON FRIDAY.
SO IF YOU JUST BEAR WITH ME, THIS IS, I'M NOT GONNA READ THE WHOLE RESOLUTION.
WE GET DOWN TO THE 10 POINTS, UM, THAT WERE THE, UH, THE, THE POINTS OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY.
SO, NUMBER ONE, THE TOWN OF COUNTY, UM, AGREED TO ADVANCE THE PROJECT IN A COOPERATIVE MANNER.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, UH, FOR THE LAST YEAR TO ADVANCE THESE ITEMS. UM, AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN TRUE TO THE SPIRIT OF NUMBER ONE.
UH, NUMBER TWO, COUNTY AND TOM MUTUALLY AGREE TO WORK TOGETHER TO LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF MERITS.
UM, BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2021, UH, TOWN COUNCIL, UH, ADOPTED A POSITION AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 26 THINGS, 14 OF WHICH WERE DIRECTLY, UM, RELATED TO THE, THE GATEWAY CORRIDOR PROJECT.
AND 12 WERE, UM, ANCILLARY OR IN PARALLEL, UM, BUT THE COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE TO ADVANCE THOSE ITEMS AS THIS MOVES IN, UM, AS THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, ADDITIONAL DESIGN CONSIDERATION IS MADE.
UM, NUMBER THREE, THE COUNTY WILL PROCURE AN INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT, AGAIN, ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY PREVIOUS RELATIONSHIP TO THE SS C D O T, THE COUNTY OR THE TOWN.
UM, AND TO PERFORM THIS INDEPENDENT REVIEW, UM, THEY WOULD DO A END-TO-END SIMULATION, UM, BEYOND THE PROJECT LIMITS.
UM, AND IN THE SCOPE, IT WENT TO INE CIRCLE ON THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY ROUTE.
SO IT INCLUDES INE CIRCLE AND THEN THE BUSINESS ROUTE.
ALL THE WAY TO HOOPING CRANE AND INDIGO RUN INTERSECTION.
UM, THAT PROCUREMENT WAS MADE, CONTRACTOR WAS SELECTED, UH, LATE LAST YEAR.
AND THE CULMINATION OF THAT WORK YOU'LL SEE WITH A PRESENTATION THAT'LL FOLLOW IN A MINUTE.
NUMBER FOUR, RELATED TO WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE SELECTION OF THE JOINTLY OR THE PROCURED CONSULTANT BY THE COUNTY.
UM, AND FROM THE TOWN'S SIDE, IT WAS ME, JEFF BUCKALEW.
UM, BRAD STRADER WAS THE TOWN MANAGER'S, UM, DESIGNEE ON THAT.
AND WE HAVE, UM, ADDED BRIAN MCELWEE AND JIM.
UM, I WANNA KEY INTO THE MIX WITH JEFF BUCKLEY'S DEPARTURE.
UM, ON THE COUNTY SIDE, IT WAS JARED FRA.
IT WAS ERIC CLAWSON, WHO HAS RECENTLY LEFT THE COUNTY.
UM, JENNIFER BRAGG, ONE OF THEIR CONSULTANTS.
UH, BUT WE, WE WORKED THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT SELECTION AND THEN WORKED THROUGH WITH THE COUNTY, UM, ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE, UM, AS A, AS A CONTRACTOR, WORKED THROUGH THE SCOPE.
UH, NUMBER FIVE, UM, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY THAT, UM, THE COUNTY COULD PURSUE WITH D O T, THE FINDING OF NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
IT WAS THEIR CHOICE ON WHEN THAT SUBMISSION, UH, WERE TO BE MADE.
BUT IF IT WAS SUBMITTED AND THE FINDINGS FROM THIS RE FROM THIS, UM, EVALUATION WERE TO CHANGE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEN, UM, AMENDMENTS COULD BE MADE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, ASSESSMENT AND THEN RESUBMITTED TO FEDERAL HIGHWAYS FOR REVIEW.
UM, NUMBER SIX, AND THIS IS A, THIS IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE NEPA PROCESS, THAT THERE'S A VALUE ENGINEERING PORTION OF ALL, UM, ALL FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECT, OR I'M SORRY, NOT FEDERALLY, BUT PROCESS PROJECTS THAT GO THROUGH THE NEPA PROCESS.
YOU HAVE TO A VALUE ENGINEER TO LOOK AT OPTIMIZING THE INVESTMENT.
AND, UM, BEST VALUE FOR LOWEST COST.
UM, SEVEN WAS TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE SPECIFIC PROJECT AREA, BUT WITH S E D D O T AND LOW COUNTRY AREA TRANSPORTATION STUDY OR LATS, UM,
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TO LOOK AT THE ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC SIGNAL TECHNOLOGY SYNCHRONIZING SIGNALS ALL THE WAY OUT TO INTERSTATE 95.UM, WE HAVE, UM, WE ARE EXECUTING ALL SIGNAL UPGRADES ON HILTON ISLAND, ALL 25 OF OUR SIGNALS.
UM, AND WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING AND STATUS ON THAT PROJECT.
BUT WE'RE NEARING, WE'RE NEARING COMPLETION WHERE THAT CAN GO FULLY FUNCTIONAL FROM AN ADAPTIVE STANDPOINT.
AND I KNOW THE COUNTY WILL PURSUE, UM, IN THEIR WORK PROGRAM, THE INSULATION OF OTHER ADAPTIVE TECHNOLOGY CONSISTENT WITH OURS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND WE INVOLVE THEM IN THE PROCUREMENT OF OUR, UH, CONSULTANT AND THE, AND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE USING.
SO THAT WOULD, UM, BE A SEAMLESS INTEGRATION.
SO, UM, ANY SIGNALS OUTSIDE OF THE, OF, UM, OUTSIDE OF THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED WOULD HAVE THE SYNC, HAVE THE ADAPTIVE TECHNOLOGY IF THEY WEREN'T ALREADY INSTALLED BEFORE THE PROJECT.
UH, NUMBER NINE, TALKED ABOUT MUNICIPAL CONSENT.
THE THIS AGREEMENT DIDN'T GRANT MUNICIPAL CONSENT, UM, AND THAT THAT MUNICIPAL CONSENT ISN'T, WASN'T NEEDED UNTIL THE RIGHT OF WAY PHASE, UM, UH, IS READY TO, TO MOVE ON.
AND THEN NUMBER 10, THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY AGREED THAT THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW WOULD BE THE LAST STUDY, UH, NEEDED BEFORE MAKING A FINAL DECISION.
SO THAT'S A REMINDER OF WHAT WAS AGREED TO, UM, LAST OCTOBER AND WHAT, AND WHAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AND WHAT THE COUNTY'S BEEN WORKING TOWARD.
UM, I'D LIKE TO BRING JARED UP FOR A MINUTE.
LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SCOPE, WHAT THEY'RE COVERING.
I'LL SAY WHAT'S DIFFERENT IN OUR SCOPE, AND THEN, AND THEN SEAN LIGHT WITH C B B.
THANK YOU, SEAN, FOR THAT INTRODUCTION AND OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, AS SEAN WAS REFERENCED, AND WE'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS ON, ON THE PROJECT IN REGARDS TO THE M O U, UM, THAT WE CONSTRUCTED LAST YEAR.
SO, UM, WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THIS.
UM, AND TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE DID AS FAR AS THE PROCUREMENT, WE WENT OUT LAST FALL, END OF LAST YEAR FOR THIS JOINT INDEPENDENT STUDY.
UM, AND LO AND BEHOLD, WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE APPLICANT, BUT WE CONTINUED AS THE SIX MEMBER COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE THEM AND TO SEE IF THEY'RE A QUALIFIED PROPOSAL.
AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT WAS, YES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE THAN QUALIFIED.
AND TO ANSWER THE INDEPENDENT QUESTION, YES, THEY'RE INDEPENDENT.
THEY HAVE NEVER WORKED IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA PRIOR TO THIS PROJECT.
THEY WERE HAPPY AND EAGER TO WORK IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND ARE HOPEFUL THAT THIS LEADS TO OTHER PROJECTS IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
AND SO WE WERE THANKFUL TO HAVE 'EM ON STAFF OR AS PART OF THE TEAM.
SO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROCUREMENT, UM, AND PUSH FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
AND AS WE DEVELOP THE SCOPE OF WORK, UH, BASICALLY WHAT THE SCOPE OF WORK ENTAILED IS AN EVALUATION OF THE D O T DESIGN AS IT STANDS TODAY.
UM, AND INSIDE OF THAT EVALUATION, THERE WAS, UH, A HANDFUL OF, OF HOT TOPICS AND, AND SPECIFIC ITEMS TO BE ADDRESSED.
ONE IS THE SIX LANES NECESSARY, UM, WHETHER WE DO ANYTHING OR WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG TOP PRIORITY QUESTIONS THAT C B B WAS TO ANSWER.
UM, WILL THE PROJECT CREATE DOWNSTREAM EFFECTS? SO, AS SEAN MENTIONED, WE EXPANDED THE, THE TERMINI OF THIS STUDY.
SO IT WENT FROM BLUFFTON, UH, AT BUCKINGHAM PLANTATION TO INDIGO RUN, AND THEN ON CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY, ALL THE WAY TO INE CIRCLE.
UH, AND THERE'S SOME INTERESTING OBSERVATIONS THAT SEAN WITH C B B WILL SPEAK TO ON THAT.
AND THEN THE, THE, UM, THE FUTURE GROWTH, UM, AND FORECAST THAT DOTS MADE AS INCORPORATED AS THE BASE LEVEL, UH, OF THEIR DESIGN, ARE THOSE APPROPRIATE.
SO C B B TOOK A LOOK AT THAT AND THEY'LL SPEAK TO THAT TODAY.
UM, WHAT OTHER STRATEGIES COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED SO FAR? SO WHETHER IT'S PHYSICAL OR WHETHER IT'S OTHER TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT TYPE STRATEGIES, UM, COULD BE LOOKED AT.
UH, AND HOW IS THE, THE D O T OF PROJECT ADDRESSING NON-MOTORIZED USERS? SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE VEHICULAR ACCESS, BUT WHAT ABOUT PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLIST AND SAFE CROSSINGS, THOSE AT OUR INTERSECTIONS? SO THOSE WERE THE BIG TAKEAWAYS AS FAR AS WHAT THEY WERE CHARGED WITH IN LIGHT OF WHAT WAS ALREADY PREPARED, UM, BY D O T AND THE PLAN SET SO FAR.
SO, UM, JARED, GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING WHAT'S INCLUDED IN, UM, IN THE WORK THAT WAS PROCURED, UH, AND C B B WILL PRESENT ON.
UH, BUT I WANNA PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT OUR EFFORT WOULD, WOULD ENTAIL.
SO COUNCIL ADOPTED THE M O A IN OCTOBER, UH, EARLY IN 2023.
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THE TOWN TO PROCURE ITS OWN INDEPENDENT STUDY, UH, OF THE PROJECT.UM, AND A COUPLE OF, COUPLE OF, UH, ITEMS I WANT TO COVER.
COUNCIL, UM, REQUESTED AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE BE, UH, ASSEMBLED.
AND SO WE HAVE A, UH, UH, FIVE MEMBERS ON ADVISORY TEAM.
WE HAVE A A SIX MEMBER THAT'S AN TER ALTERNATE, UH, TO HELP AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE WORK.
THE ADVISORY TEAM HELPED OUTLINE THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WAS RECOMMENDED.
TOWN COUNCIL AND TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED THE SCOPE IN, IN JUNE.
UH, WE PROCURED AND HAVE AWARDED A CONTRACT TO DO THE WORK AS, UM, AS, UH, JARED MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S NO PRIOR INVOLVEMENT, UH, WITHIN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA WITH S E D O T, BEAUFORT COUNTY OR THE TOWN.
UM, ONE, ONE DIFFERENCE, UM, BETWEEN THE SCOPE THAT'S IMPORTANT WAS THE, THE SCOPE THAT WAS, UH, PROCURED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY, UH, WAS LIMITED TO THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE PART OF THE EA THAT WERE CURRENTLY PART OF THE EA UH, SENATOR DAVIS SPOKE LAST FALL, UM, AFTER A CONVERSATION WITH SECRETARY HALL ABOUT SOME RISK OF LOOKING BEYOND THOSE THAT WERE ALREADY EVALUATED.
UH, BUT TOWN COUNCIL WANTED, UM, TO HAVE THE DOOR OPEN TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE, UH, NOT ONLY INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT PROJECT IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, BUT ALSO ANY OTHERS THAT THAT COULD BE OR SHOULD BE INCLUDED.
AND SO OUR PROJECT WILL INCLUDE, INCLUDE THAT, UM, AGAIN, VETTED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE AND, AND WORKED THROUGH BY THE CONSULTANT.
UM, IT DOES EVALUATE THE, UM, THE EXTENSION TO SEA PINE CIRCLE ON THE CROSS ISLAND ROUTE AND TO HOOPING CRANE AND TO GO RUN, UH, ON THE OTHER ROUTE.
UH, ONE AREA OF FOCUS, UM, THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE IS COVERED IS THE UN UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS AND MITIGATION AND OPTIONS FOR MITIGATION, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, AND SO WE'LL LOOK AT, UH, INTERSECTION ALTERNATIVES, UM, UH, TWO SETS OF MODELING TO GET REAL, REAL DETAILED, UM, BASED ON OUR, UM, CURRENT TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AND FORECASTS, BUT TO UNDERSTAND THE PHYSICAL IMPACTS, UM, IN STONY AND THE MITIGATION OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, UH, THERE AS WELL.
UH, WE'VE ALSO, WE'VE BEGUN TO, UH, ANALYZE THE NO LEFT TURN, UH, OPTION THAT'S BEEN, UH, THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP AND ASKED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, WORK AND CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
WE HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY INFORMATION THAT I'LL SHARE WITH THE TOWN MANAGER AND, AND, AND MAYBE BE ABLE TO REPORT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, IF, IF HE AND I ARE ALIGNED ON THAT, UM, WE WILL ASK OUR CONSULTANT TO DO THAT AS WELL.
BUT WE'VE ASKED C B B NOW THAT THEY'VE COMPLETED THE WORK AND THE MAIN SCOPE, UM, AND THEY'VE DONE SOME INITIAL EVALUATION OF THAT AND HAVE SOME INFORMATION.
UM, SO THAT COVERS THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO EFFORTS.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE, UM, THERE IS SOME VALUE AND US DOING THIS ADDITIONAL WORK.
UM, AND WORKING WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ADVANCE THIS.
ONE FINAL PIECE IS THAT, UH, WE'VE EXECUTED THE CONTRACT.
UH, WE HAVE A, I POLLED A COMMITTEE FOR A KICKOFF MEETING, NOVEMBER 1ST OR THIRD.
SO IT SHOULD BE ONE OF THOSE TWO DAYS.
AND AT THE TIMEFRAME FOR EXECUTION, UM, IN THE, AND THE CONTRACT HAS MAY AND A COMPLETION IN IN MAY-ISH.
SO THAT'S ABOUT A SIX MONTH SCHEDULE.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE I BRING THAT UP, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, GROUP.
AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE, UH, STAY AS TIGHT ON THAT SCHEDULE AS WE CAN.
SO LONG INTRODUCTION FOR SEAN LIGHT WITH C B B.
SO SEAN, YOU WANT TO COME UP, HE'LL PROVIDE AN, UM, AND WE'RE ALL HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL OR, OR ANYONE HAS.
UH, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT WITH YOU.
UH, Y'ALL HAVE A BEAUTIFUL TOWN AND, UH, WE'VE ENJOYED WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, AND I'VE ENJOYED MY TIME, UH, COMING OUT TO HILTON, THAT ISLAND HERE TO, TO WORK ON IT.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH, UM, IS JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT C B B.
UM, WE'RE UNKNOWN HERE, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO.
AGAIN, OUR SCOPE OF WORK, WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR MAJOR FINDINGS.
WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH SOMETHING CALLED TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK MAYBE WE'VE ADDED, UM, FROM SOME OF THE PREVIOUS STUDIES, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
SO, C B B IS A SMALL, UH, FIRM.
UM, BUT WE'RE ALL TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS AND PLANNERS.
UM, SO REALLY THE CORE OF OUR WORK THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING TO THIS WAS TRANSPORTATION STUDIES AND PLANNING AND TRANSPORTATION MODELING.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTISE.
SO I'VE BEEN AN ADJUNCT AT WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY OF ST.
UH, WE HAVE OTHERS THAT ARE AT A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL WITHIN THE COMPANY.
UM, I'M IN INTER INTER, I'M A PAST INTERNATIONAL PRESIDENT OF THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS.
SO WE'RE BRINGING, UH, SOME PRETTY GOOD FIREPOWER FROM A SMALL FIRM, UH, FOR THIS, SOME OF THE REST OF THE TEAM.
UH, NRA PATEL WAS OUR MODELER.
WE'LL GO THROUGH A LOT OF THE VISIM.
MIKE ALVIN, UM, DID A LOT OF THE PLANNING WORK, HELPING, UM, WORK WITH THE, THE TRANSIT.
AND JOANNE MARTIN WAS MY, UH, DEPUTY PROJECT MANAGER
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ON THIS.SO, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR, THIS IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT, UH, WE PRESENTED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO TO THE, UM, BEAUFORT COUNTY, UH, COUNCIL.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE AREA WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WIDENING TO SIX LANES? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THE DOT'S PROJECT, AND THIS IS IT.
SO BLUFFTON TO SPANISH WELLS, THIS IS THE AREA WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, WHERE IS WIDENING REQUIRED.
UM, THIS WAS THE AREA THAT WE WERE ASKED TO EVALUATE FOR THAT.
SO HERE'S THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED.
UM, IS WIDENING IN FOR THE DOT'S PROJECT NECESSARY? WHAT ARE SOME DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS FROM THE PROJECT? UM, ARE THE DOTS FORECAST REASONABLE? ARE THERE OTHER STRATEGIES THAT CAN BE BROUGHT TO BEAR, UM, THAT CAN HELP THIS PROJECT OR ALLEVIATE THE NEED FOR THE PROJECT? AND HOW WILL THIS IMPACT NON-MOTORIZED USERS? SO THE METHODS THAT WE DID, UM, WE, THERE'S A LOT OF DATA, A LOT OF INFORMATION REPORTS TO REVIEW.
SO WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE PREVIOUS STUDIES, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT WAS OUT THERE.
WE CAME OUT IN MARCH, UH, FOR THE BETTER PART OF A WEEK.
UM, DID TRAVEL TIME RUNS, WE DROVE, SAT IN, WE SAT IN TRAFFIC A LOT.
UM, WE RODE, UH, BICYCLES AROUND THE ISLAND.
UH, WE DID OUR BEST TO FIND ALL THE BUS STOPS, RIDE THE BUSES THAT WE COULD.
UM, SO WE REALLY TRIED TO EXPERIENCE WHAT TRANSPORTATION, UH, FELT LIKE AND WHAT THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE IN THE AREA.
WE BUILT A VISIM MODEL, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT VISIM IN A MINUTE HERE.
EM'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM SOME OF THE PREVIOUS STUDIES.
THE PREVIOUS WORK WAS DONE IN A MODEL CALLED SYNCHRO.
AND THERE'S A, A HIGHWAY CAPACITY SOFTWARE THAT WAS USED.
VISIM IS JUST A HIGHER END VERSION OF A LOT OF THAT.
AND WE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT DOES, BUT IT REALLY LETS US LOOK AT THINGS FROM A, A SYSTEM STANDPOINT AND HOW THINGS WORK TOGETHER.
AND IN ADDITION TO THE ROADWAY, WE LOOKED AT THE BIKE PAD NETWORK, WE LOOKED AT THE TRANSIT SYSTEMS, WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS, UM, AS, UM, SEAN HAD POINTED OUT OR, OR JARED, UM, I FORGET WHICH ONE.
WE EXPANDED THE PREVIOUS STUDY AREAS TO GO TO INDIGO RUN AND GO DOWN TO SEA PINE CIRCLE SO WE COULD, AGAIN, LOOK AT THIS SYSTEM HOLISTICALLY.
SO WHAT IS VISIM IS A MICRO SIMULATION MODEL.
IT'S GOT A, A STOCHASTIC MODEL, WHICH MEANS EVERY TIME I RUN IT, IT'LL ACTUALLY GIVE A DIFFERENT RESULT.
SO EVERY TIME THAT YOU GO OUT, IF YOU GO AND DRIVE, UM, IN FROM BLUFFTON FIVE TIMES, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES, RIGHT? BECAUSE TRAFFIC'S NOT THE EXACT SAME EVERY TIME.
SO THIS MODEL ACTUALLY GETS TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAILS TO REPLICATE THE, THE DENT, THE, UM, RANDOMNESS THAT'S IN THE SYSTEM FROM DAY TO DAY.
UM, WE DID SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T NORMALLY DO FOR MODELS.
WE ACTUALLY RAN A THREE HOUR MODEL.
SO WE RAN PRE PEAK, WE LET THE QUEUES DEVELOP AND THEN WE LET 'EM DISSIPATE.
SO WE RAN THREE HOUR MODELS FOR BOTH THE MORNING AND THE EVENING TO GET THAT FULL EXPERIENCE OF THE CUES COMING AND GOING.
AND THEN WE RAN A, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, UM, AND WE'LL WALK THROUGH, UH, WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE.
BUT EVERYTHING FROM 2023 AND WE, WHAT WE DID WE TO MENTION, WE RAN TRAVEL TIME RUNS, WE DROVE, UM, AND WE RECORDED HONG, IT TOOK US TO GET FROM BLUFFTON OVER TO INDIGO RUN.
AND THEN WE, WE, WE, WE MEASURED THAT IN THE MODEL AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, MATCHED WHAT WAS ACTUALLY OUT THERE.
THIS IS JUST A LITTLE, UM, CAPTURE OF THE VISTA MODEL.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, WHAT THIS IS ABLE TO DO.
UM, SO WE'VE GOT THAT FULL EXTENT OF THE MODEL IN HERE.
WE'VE GOT THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN THERE, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL TIMING'S IN THERE.
WE CAN PUT IN A VEHICULAR MIX.
SO WE PUT IN PERCENT TRUCKS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
WE CAN PUT IN DRIVER AGGRESSIVENESS IF WE WANT TO DO, WE HAVE OUT OF TOWN DRIVERS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE, UM, MILD.
AND THEN, SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, ASPECTS THAT WE CAN PUT INTO THESE MODELS.
AND UM, THIS IS JUST A SHORT CLIP.
SO LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE RUN THE ACTUAL MODEL, IT'S A THREE HOUR MODEL.
LIKE THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THIS IS THAT CAN DO THINGS LIKE HOW DOES THE SIGNAL IMPACT THE DOWNSTREAM MERGE, RIGHT? HOW DOES A SIGNAL IMPACT THE DOWNSTREAM ROUNDABOUT? HOW DO THOSE THINGS WORK TOGETHER? AND HOW DO THE GAPS CREATED FROM THE SIGNAL IMPACT, UM, SIDE STREET STOPS.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION, AND WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF THE RESULTS NOW, IS, IS THE DOT'S PROJECT NEEDED? AND WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE FROM THIS GRAPH IS THIS LOOKS AT, UM, THIS BLUE LINE, OUR AVERAGE OR ADTS.
SO THESE ARE DAILY TRAFFIC VOLUMES, UM, FROM 2010 OUT TO 2023.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UM, THIS, THIS ORANGE LINE IS THE PM VOLUMES.
AND THIS GRAY LINE ARE THE AM VOLUMES.
AND WHAT I FIND INTERESTING WHEN I LOOK AT THIS GRAPH IS THAT OUR DAILY TRAFFIC VOLUMES CONTINUE TO GROW.
SO TRAFFIC, YOU'RE GETTING TRAFFIC GROWTH ONTO THE ISLAND EVERY DAY YOU PEAKED OUT IN 2017 WITH YOUR AM EUROPEAN VOLUMES.
WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS THAT YOU'RE AT CAPACITY.
SO YOU'RE MAXED OUT AT, IN DURING THE ONE HOUR IN THE MORNING, AND THE ONE HOUR IN THE EVENING WHEN YOU'RE MOVING TRAFFIC.
UM, IN THAT EVENING HOUR, YOU'RE MAXED OUT AROUND 3000 CARS AND MAYBE AROUND 2,700 CARS IN THE, UM, IN THE MORNING.
SO WHAT THAT TELLS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET TO
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THAT SITUATION IS THAT YOU GET A COUPLE THINGS.SO THE TRAFFIC QUEUES WILL GET LONGER, BUT ALSO THEY'LL OCCUR FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF THE DAY.
SO YOU'LL HAVE A, A TRAFFIC BREAKDOWN, YOU KNOW, EARLY ON IN 2017, MAYBE THOSE 20 MINUTES THAT SPREADS, THAT GROWS IF YOU EVER DRIVEN IN ATLANTA, RIGHT? THAT TRAFFIC'S BAD ALL DAY LONG, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THAT PEAK SPREADING OUT ONTO THE SHOULDERS.
SO IS THE D O T IS THE PROJECT NEEDED? YEAH, YOU'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING FROM A TRAFFIC CAPACITY STANDPOINT, 'CAUSE YOU'RE AT CAPACITY ON PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO GET ON AND OFF THE ISLAND DURING THE HOUR, THE PEAK PERIODS.
AND HERE'S JUST SOME PHOTOS, UM, YOU SEE OF WHAT THAT CONGESTION LOOKS LIKE.
AND I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE VERY AWARE OF THAT IN THE MODELS.
SO WHAT WE FIND, AND WE RUN THE MODELS AND WE REALLY TRY TO DISSECT THESE, IS YOU'VE GOT KIND OF THREE MAJOR PINCH POINTS OR BOTTLENECKS IN THE SYSTEM.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE BLUFF AND MERGE, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE COMING ON FROM THE BLUFFTON EXPRESSWAY FROM PARKWAY, ALL THAT TRAFFIC'S TRYING TO MERGE DOWN ONTO TWO LANES.
UM, THE NEXT ONE IS THE SQUIRE POPE INTERSECTION.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN SYNCRO, SYNCRO SAYS THERE'S THREE, UM, EASTBOUND THROUGH LANES, BUT ONE OF THOSE LANES IS ONLY ABOUT 150 FEET LONG, RIGHT? SO NOBODY ACTUALLY CAN USE IT.
UM, SO THIS IS WHERE SEM WILL BE DIFFERENT FROM THE SYNCHRO ANALYSIS.
'CAUSE SEM ACTUALLY LOOKS AT THE DRIVER BEHAVIOR AND HOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY USE THAT SHORT LITTLE LANE.
UM, THAT QUEUE THEN SPILLS BACK THROUGH THE BLUFF AND MERGE.
AND YOU'LL SEE LATER ON THAT THAT LEFT EMERGE DOESN'T BECOME AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE CONSTRAINT IS DOWN AT, UM, SQUIRE POPE.
AND THEN ANOTHER CONSTRAINT IN THE SYSTEM IS GUMTREE, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.
UM, GUMTREE ISS OPERATING AT CAPACITY.
UM, WE'VE GOT SOME CONCERNS THAT ONCE YOU RELEASE ALL THE TRAFFIC, UH, THROUGH SQUIRE POPE AND THROUGH THE LIFT TO MERGE, UM, THE GUMTREE COULD BECOME AN ISSUE.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SEC.
WE'VE GOT A RECOMMENDATION, MAYOR, EXCUSE ME.
ARE, ARE WE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AS IT GOES ALONG? I DON'T THINK I'LL REMEMBER ALL THESE COLORS AND SLIDES.
UM, THERE'S A LOT TO DIGEST AND I THINK THAT LETTING HIM GO THROUGH IT AND THEN SEE IF THERE'S SOLUTIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED LATER ON WOULD BE BENEFICIAL INSTEAD OF TRYING TO BRING THOSE UP NOW.
BUT IT JUST, YOU KNOW, I I CAN'T QUITE READ THE, UM, COLOR DIAGRAM THERE, SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT MEANS OTHER THAN USUALLY RED MEANS BAD TO ME, SO, SURE.
SO THE, THE, THE DARKER COLORS ARE SO, UM, GOOD.
UH, THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
THE, THE COLORS ON THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS SPEEDS.
SO RED IS 10 MILES AN HOUR OR LESS.
UH, GREEN IS BASICALLY A FREE FLOW SPEED AND THERE'S THAT GRADATION THAT GOES THROUGH THERE.
SO THE ORANGE IS A LOWER SPEED, THE RED'S A LOWER SPEED, UH, THE GREEN IS FREE FLOW.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE KIND OF REPRESENT VISUALLY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
UH, IN THE EVENING, UM, BASICALLY SQUIRE POPE IS, IS THE CHOKE POINT.
SO YOU'VE GOT TWO LANES COMING NORTH ON, UH, CROSS ISLAND.
YOU GOT TWO LANES COMING FROM, UH, BUSINESS 2 78.
THIS GOTTA ME DOWN INTO TWO LANES.
SO THAT'S WIRE OUR POPE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, THIS IS ONE OF THE SLOWEST QUEUES I'VE EVER SAT IN.
UM, SO I SAT AND
SO, AND THAT'S, YOU JUST HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC TRYING IT ALL JAMMED DOWN, UH, TO ONE POINT TO GET, UH, ACROSS THAT BRIDGE.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, HERE THAT THIS RED LINE EXTENDING BACK THAT'S VERY SLOW TRAFFIC SPEEDS, UH, COMING EASTWARD I GUESS FROM THAT, UH, WESTBOUND TRAFFIC EXTENDED THE Q'S EXTENDING EASTWARD FROM THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN IS, UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT VARIABILITY OF TRAFFIC FLOW.
SO WE WERE OUT IN MARCH, WE WERE OUT DURING ONE OF THE PEAK SEASONS.
IS THIS TRAFFIC SOMETHING THAT'S ONLY HERE A COUPLE WEEKS, A YEAR, NOT A BIG DEAL THE REST OF THE YEAR? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF HERE ALL THE TIME? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NOTICED, UM, SITTING THROUGH THOSE MORNING QUEUES WAS, UM, AND WE WERE OUT THERE 'CAUSE THE, THE TRAFFIC BUILDS UP BEFORE THE, THE SUN COMES UP.
UM, THESE AREN'T TOURISTS SITTING IN THIS TRAFFIC QUEUE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? UM, SO WE LOOKED AROUND AND WE NOTICED A LOT OF WORK TRUCKS.
AND ONE THINGS THAT OCCURRED TO US IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU REALLY HAVE IN THIS MORNING RUSH HOUR.
THIS IS YOUR WORKFORCE GETTING ONTO THE ISLANDS.
THERE'S ABOUT 22,000 JOBS, UH, ON THE ISLAND, TWO THIRDS OF THOSE COMMUTE IN EVERY DAY.
SO THE PERSON'S SERVING YOUR COFFEE, THE PERSON THAT'S HELPING YOU, THAT'S GROCERY STORE.
MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE, UM, DON'T LIVE ON THE ISLAND.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THIS TRAFFIC.
HALF THE JOBS ON THE ISLAND ARE OF THE TYPE, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING IN HOTELS, FOOD SERVICE, HEALTHCARE THAT CAN'T CALL IT IN, THEY CAN'T ZOOM IN.
UM, AND THEY HAVE CERTAIN TIMES THEY HAVE TO BE THERE.
WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE TRAFFIC GETS BAD.
PEOPLE LEAVE EARLIER, THEY'LL STAY A LITTLE LATE.
I CAN DECIDE WHEN TO GO HOME, UH, BUT IF I HAVE A NURSING, NURSING SHIFT, I GOTTA COME IN WHEN THAT SHIFT IS THERE, RIGHT? SO,
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UM, SO WE REALLY SEE THIS A LOT WITH AM TRAFFIC AND WE'LL GET INTO VARIABILITY AND WE SEE, UM, VERY CONSISTENT ACTUALLY TRAFFIC VOLUMES DURING THE MORNING, RUSH HOURS, UH, COMING IN.AND THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF WHO'S USING, UH, THE ROADS AT THAT TIME.
THE EVENING WE, WE SEE THAT SAME THING.
UM, WE ALSO THINK THAT WHAT WE UNCOVERED IS THERE'S THAT, AND THEN THERE COULD BE A LOT OF VARIABILITY BECAUSE OF VISITORS.
SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE COME IN USING THE BEACH, IT DECIDES TO RAIN EARLY AFTERNOON, THEY'RE ALL GOING HOME, THEY COME IN AND THEY HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON EVERYBODY ELSE TRYING TO GET HOME.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, AGAIN, FOLKS THAT ARE, UM, WORKING IN, IN CERTAIN PLACES, MAYBE CONSTRUCTION, THAT, UH, TRYING TO GET HOME, HOME, GET THEIR KIDS A SOCCER PRACTICE, AND NOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE LATE BECAUSE, UH, THEY'RE TRIPS.
SO AGAIN, WE LOOK AT THIS AND WHO'S IMPACTED BY THIS CONGESTION? UM, A LOT OF IT WE THINK ARE THE, THE WORKERS, UH, PEOPLE TRYING TO GET ON AND OFF ON A DAILY BASIS.
UM, PROBABLY MORE SO THAN A LOT OF THE TOURISTS.
WE LOOK AT THIS TRAFFIC VARIABILITY.
UM, SO THIS FIRST UPPER LEFT IS FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE A PEAK TOUR SEASON IN THE SUMMER, THE, THE ONE BELOW.
IT LOOKS AT DAILY TRAFFIC AND YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE LESS VARIABILITY WITH THAT, A LITTLE MORE CONSISTENCY WITH THE DAILY TRAFFIC.
WE SHOW THESE R SQUARED VALUES, AND I DON'T WANT TO UM, GET TOO TECHNICAL WITH THIS, BUT THE CLOSER YOU ARE TO ONE, THE MORE CONSISTENT THE DATA.
SO THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AM THE PM PEAK, THE MORNING TRAFFIC IS THE MOST CONSISTENT, SO THE LEAST VARIABILITY DURING THE DAY AND THE PM PEAK IS, IS SLIGHTLY BEYOND BEYOND THAT.
SO WHAT WE SEE IS A BIG PEAK WITH THE VISITORS, UM, COMING IN AND A LOT MORE CONSISTENCY WITH THE MORNING AND THE EVENING PEAK HOURS ON, ON WHAT THAT TRAFFIC FLOW LOOKS LIKE.
THERE'S ABOUT 20 MILLION ANNUAL BRIDGE CROSSINGS.
YOU'VE BOUGHT 30, UH, I'M SORRY, ABOUT 3 MILLION, UH, ANNUAL VISITORS.
SO WE'RE ESTIMATING, UM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 10 TO 20% OF THOSE TRIPS ARE ACTUALLY VISITOR TRIPS.
SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE LION SHARE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMUTING IN AND OUT EVERY DAY.
SO WE'LL GET INTO THE RESULTS OF THE REMODELING INTER SECOND.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP AS WE GO.
THERE'S TWO SUPPORTING PROJECTS WE THINK THE LOCAL COMMUNITY SHOULD TAKE A REAL HARD LOOK AT.
AND, AND WE ALREADY KIND OF MENTIONED THESE GUMTREE ROAD AND SEA PINE CIRCLE.
SO AT GUMTREE YOU USED TO HAVE, UM, THREE THROUGH LANES THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION.
ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO THERE WAS A PROJECT IT LOOKS LIKE, TO ADD SOME PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AT THE PROJECT.
AND IT WAS RETRIED THAT THE RIGHTMOST LANE BECOMES A RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE TO GO TO THE SOUTH, AND YOU ONLY HAVE TWO THROUGH LANES.
WHAT WE SEE IS IF, UM, THE D O T DOES THEIR PROJECT AND THIS ISN'T ADDRESSED, THIS BECOMES THE BOTTLENECK.
THIS SPILLS BACK JUST LIKE SQUIRE POPE DOES.
AND NOW YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM AND WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE RESULTS WHERE YOU'RE REALLY HAVEN'T ACCOMPLISHED MUCH IN THE MORNING.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU COULD RETRIP THIS INTERCHANGE, THIS INTERSECTION, UM, WITHOUT ADDING ANY PAVEMENT.
UM, THERE'S SOME ISLAND WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, SOME TRAFFIC SIGNAL WORK, SOME REWORKING OF THE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES.
AN EXAMPLE IS THIS CROSSWALK RIGHT HERE.
WHEN YOU PUSH THE WALK BUTTON, IT YOU, IT REALLY DOES GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO GET ALL THE WAY ACROSS HERE.
WHAT YOU COULD DO IS PUT A PUSH BUTTON IN THE MIDDLE AND HAVE YOU GET ACROSS HALFWAY OUTTA TIME.
UM, WHICH WOULD HAVE A LOT LESS IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.
SO THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO, AND WE DIDN'T GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT DESIGN, BUT THIS ONE LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY LOW HANGING FRUIT.
PRETTY EASY WAY TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL CAPACITY TO GET THAT THIRD, UM, LANE THROUGH THE INTERSECTION, THAT THIRD EASTBOUND LANE THROUGH WITHOUT EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY DESIGN WORK WOULD'VE TO BE DONE TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
THE OTHER ONE IS A LITTLE MORE TRICKY AND THAT'S NOT THE SEA PINE CIRCLE.
SO SEA PINE CIRCLE DOES TWO THINGS.
ONE OF THE THINGS IT DOES, WHICH I REALLY LOVE, IS FOLKS COMING OFF THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY.
IT'S A TRAFFIC CALMING FEATURE.
SO YOU HIT THAT CIRCLE AND IT SLOWS YOU DOWN AND CALMS YOU AS YOU GET INTO THE, THE BROADER COMMUNITY.
IT ALSO IS, UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THERE'S REALLY NOT A WAY AROUND IT.
SO ALMOST EVERYBODY USES CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY'S GOTTA GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.
AND IT'S RUNNING AT CAPACITY NOW.
UM, SO IF YOU, WHEN WE LOOK AT IN THE, WHERE THESE TRAFFIC VOLUMES GO INTO THE FUTURE, IF WE WANNA GET PEOPLE OFF OF BUSINESS 2 78 AND HAVE 'EM USE A CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT THROUGH ADDRESSING THE SEA PINE CIRCLE.
THE PARKWAY ITSELF HAS GOT PLENTY OF CAPACITY.
THERE'S NO CAPACITY ISSUES AT ALL AT THAT INTER OR ALONG THAT UH, FACILITY.
BUT SEE, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SEA PINE CIRCLE, WHICH BECOMES A CRUX.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU, UH, WHAT TO DO AT THIS LOCATION.
THIS FEELS LIKE ONE THAT NEEDS A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
THERE'S SOME TRADE-OFFS BETWEEN CAPACITY AND, AND THE TRAFFIC CALLATE EFFECTS.
UM, SO THIS IS A, A GREAT PROJECT TO GET INTO, BUT WE DIDN'T FEEL WITHIN OUR SCOPE WE COULD REALLY GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDATION WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.
WHAT WE DID DO IS IN OUR MODELS, WE, WE PUT
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A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE ONLY SO THAT WE COULD GET THE VOLUME THROUGH THERE AND UP TO THE PROJECT AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY TEST THE PROJECT AREA WITH THE FULL TRAFFIC IN THERE.SO THIS LOOKS AT SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT.
SO IN THIS CASE WE'VE GOT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 2 78 EASTBOUND ON WESTBOUND AND NORTHBOUND SOUTHBOUND CROSS ISLAND.
WE'VE GOT 2023 NO BUILD, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY.
WE HAVE THE BASE BUILD, WHICH IS THE DOTS PROJECT, AND THEN THE BUILD PLUS.
AND THE BUILD PLUS INCLUDES THE GUMTREE, UH, IMPROVEMENT I JUST TALKED ABOUT IN SEE PINE CIRCLE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, IF WE JUST DO THE DOTS PROJECT IN THE MORNING, WE'RE NOT FIXING ANYTHING, IT'S JUST AS BAD.
UM, IT'S JUST, JUST AS BAD AFTER THE PROJECT AS BEFORE.
'CAUSE AGAIN, EVERYBODY'S GONNA BACK UP FROM GUMTREE.
IF WE JUST ADD THAT EXTRA LANE THROUGH THE INTERSECTION, WE CAN CUT THE DELAYS IN HALF.
UM, SO THAT'S A PRETTY BIG IMPROVEMENT.
AND THEN THE EVENING, WHAT WE FIND IS THE DOT'S PROJECT WORKS WELL.
UM, SO THE GUMTREE IS REALLY JUST FOR EASTBOUND, WHICH IS FOR THE MORNING.
AND SEA PINES AGAIN HELPS US DISTRIBUTE THAT TRAFFIC BETWEEN, UM, BUSINESS 2 78 AND THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY.
WE ARE ASKED TO LOOK AT A SCENARIO WHERE WE DON'T DO ANY WIDENING THROUGH THE STONY COMMUNITY.
UM, SO IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KEEP THE LINEAGE THAT'S THROUGH SQUIRE, POPE AND SPANISH WELLS.
UM, WE MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS KIND OF THE BIG BOTTLENECK THAT'S THERE, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE ACTUALLY SEE IS THAT IF WE BUILD THE BRIDGE TO SIX LANES, BUT WE LEAVE THIS AS IT IS, IT ACTUALLY MAKES THINGS WORSE.
'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT CAPACITY CONSTRAINT AT THE BLUFF TO MERGE ANYMORE.
UH, IT'S GOT MORE TRAFFIC TO THAT INTERSECTION FASTER, UM, AND IT ACTUALLY BACKS THINGS UP AND, AND CAUSES MORE DELAY.
SO, UM, THIS REALLY IS A, IS AN ISSUE.
WHAT WE SEE IN THIS PM WITH THESE INCREASED NUMBERS IS THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF MORE TRAFFIC GETTING THROUGH THE SEA PINE CIRCLE AND AGAIN, GETTING TO THAT MERGE FASTER.
UH, WHAT WE DID IN THIS CASE IS WE USED THE BUILD PLUS, BUT WE JUST STRIPPED, UM, THIS SECTION OF THE MODEL BACK TO THE EXISTING, UH, SITU CONDITION IT'S IN.
WE'RE ASKED TO LOOK AT FUTURE TRAFFIC GROWTH.
UM, SO THIS LOOKS AT YOUR HISTORIC ADTS.
UH, WE PUT A TREND LINE OUT THERE.
UM, WE EVALUATED WHAT THE EA DID IN TERMS OF THE REGIONAL DEMAND MODEL AND LOOKING AT THOSE FORECASTS, WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT WARRANTED, UM, REDOING THOSE MODELS.
AND REALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DOT'S FORECAST, THEY SEEM TO MAKE SENSE AT THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING.
SOMEBODY ASKED WHAT IF WE PUT MEASURES IN PLACE THAT WOULD LIMIT THE GROWTH? SURE, RIGHT? OF COURSE THAT'S A WAY THAT, UM, YOU COULD LIMIT THE GROWTH.
BUT FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW, UM, WE THINK THAT THE, THE, THE DOT'S FORECAST MAKES SENSE.
OKAY, SO THIS HAS GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THE NEXT TWO.
UM, WHAT THESE CHARTS ARE, AND AGAIN, IT'S THE COLORS THAT MATTER, THE VERY TOP ONE IS 2023, NO BUILD.
AND EVERYTHING BELOW IT THEN ARE BUILD.
SO IT'S 20, 25, 20, 30, 20, 35, 20 40, 20 45, AND 2050.
THIS FIRST COLUMN IS THE FIRST 15 MINUTES OF THE MODEL RUN.
AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THE THREE HOURS GO IN FROM LEFT TO RIGHT.
AND THEN, UM, THIS IS AM SO THIS STARTS AT BLUFFTON AS WE WORK DOWN, UM, BACK DOWN TO INDIGO RUN.
SO WHAT WE SEE IS THIS IS OUR EXISTING MODEL.
SO WE SEE EARLY ON, HERE'S THE BLUFF AND MERGE THAT'S BACKING UP.
UM, AND THEN YOU ACTUALLY SEE THAT GETTING BETTER ONCE SQUIRE POPE STARTS BACKING UP THROUGH THE MODEL AND KIND OF RELIEVING THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING THROUGH THERE.
WE CAN SEE WHEN WE RUN THE 2025 BUILD, UH, IT ALL WORKS GREAT AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE START SEEING SOME TRAFFIC CONGESTION AGAIN.
AND THIS CHART, THESE ARE OUR, UM, THROUGHPUT VOLUMES THAT WE GET THROUGH.
UM, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, FROM BLUFFTON ONTO THE ISLAND.
AND HERE WE CAN SEE AGAIN HOW THOSE VOLUMES INCREASED.
AND THEN AROUND 2017 THEY FLATTENED OUT.
AND THIS SHOWS HOW WE CONTINUE TO GET ADDITIONAL THROUGHPUT FROM THIS PROJECT.
UM, WHERE WE'RE CAPPED OUT ABOUT 26, 2700, UH, WE CAN GO UP TO ABOUT 36, 3700, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
OKAY? AND WE KIND OF SEE THE SAME THING WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PM.
UM, SO HERE IS OUR, THIS, THIS CASE, IT'S BACKWARD THAT WE'RE STARTING FROM INDIGO RUN AND, AND THEN WORKING UP TOWARDS BLUFFED IN THE OTHER WAY.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THIS RED FROM SQUIRE POPE GOING BACK.
UM, WE, WE FIXED THAT AND THEN WE START TO SEE, UM, SOME RED COMING INTO THE SYSTEM MOVING FORWARD.
YOU NOTICE THAT THE RED IS AT THE VERY TOP, AND THIS IS BECAUSE JUST BUSINESS 2 78 ITSELF CAN'T HANDLE A 30% INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, RIGHT? SO WE START SEEING THAT.
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SEAN JUST WANNA FOR EVERYBODY, THE RED IS LOWER TRAFFIC.JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S STILL FOLLOWING ALONG WITH THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE GREEN IS THE FREE FLOW OF SPEEDS AND THERE'S ACTUALLY NUMBERS IN THERE, THEY'RE HARD TO SEE.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, WE SHOW, WE HAVE, WE SHOW THE THROUGHPUT THAT ARE THERE.
SO WHAT WE'VE KIND OF DISCOVERED THROUGH THIS IS THAT THE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE A GREAT BENEFIT, BUT IT'S NOT, IT CAN ONLY LAST SO LONG, RIGHT? IT CAN ONLY HANDLE SO MUCH ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
SO HOW DO WE EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT AND HOW DO WE KEEP TRAFFIC FLOWING SMOOTHLY ON AND OFF THE ISLAND? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEING DONE AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND IT'S, IT'S I'D SAY GAIN MORE SUPPORT, UH, MAYBE THE LAST 10 TO 15 YEARS.
THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT.
BASICALLY THAT'S PROVIDING PEOPLE ADDITIONAL CHOICES FOR HOW THEY'RE GONNA TRAVEL ON AND OFF THE ISLAND.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S PRETTY HARD TO GET ON AND OFF.
AND LET'S SEE, I'VE GOT A CAR.
UM, THIS PROVIDES ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
NOW THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS ON THE ISLAND, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT A GOOD BASE, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A MINUTE.
YOU'VE GOT A FANTASTIC, UM, PATH SYSTEM.
I WAS AMAZED AT HOW LATE AT NIGHT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, 10 O'CLOCK THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE RIDING THEIR BIKES AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY USING THAT TO, TO GET AROUND ON THE ISLAND.
UM, YOU'VE GOT A TRANSIT SYSTEM THAT'S IN THE AREA.
IT COULD USE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS, BUT IT, IT COULD REALLY BE BUILT INTO SOMETHING THAT THAT'S VERY USEFUL.
UM, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF SHUTTLES.
SO TRYING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, WE TRIED TO LOOK AROUND AND SAY, WHO ELSE IS DOING THIS? AND ONE OF THE, THE CASES, ONE OF THE MODELS, UM, THAT WE FOUND IS SUMMIT COUNTY COLORADO.
AND YOU MIGHT THINK OF WHAT THE HECK DOES SKI COUNTRY HAVE TO DO WITH, WITH HILTON HEAD ISLAND? UM, SO THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, IS SOMEBODY THAT I HAVE KNOWN, UM, BEFORE HIS CURRENT JOB, HE WORKED AS A C E O OF THE, UM, COLORADO D O T.
AND ONE OF HIS BIG PROJECTS WAS SUMMIT COUNTY COLORADO.
THEY'VE GOT THE SAME KIND OF CONCERNS YOU HAVE.
THEY'VE GOT A FOUR-LANE I 70 THAT GOES INTO SUMMIT COUNTY.
THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS TO BE ABLE TO WIDEN I 70 TO GET ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, UM, OUT TO SKI COUNTRY.
SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE DEVELOPED A PRETTY SOPHISTICATED, UH, SHUTTLE SYSTEM.
SO IT'S VERY CONVENIENT TO FLY INTO THE DENVER AIRPORT TO TAKE A SHUTTLE, A LOCAL SHUTTLE, UM, UP TO, UM, SUMMIT COUNTY.
AND THEN THEY'VE BUILT A WHOLE TRANSIT SYSTEM UP IN SUMMIT COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO GET YOU TO RESTAURANTS, TO GET YOU TO SHOPPING, TO GET YOU TO, UH, OTHER SKI RESORTS AND BE ABLE JUST TO MOVE AROUND.
SO YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE A CAR TO GO SKIING OUT IN, IN, IN THIS PART OF THE, THE WORLD BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEM THEY BUILT UP.
KEEP, UH, JUST MAKE NOTE OF THESE NUMBERS.
SO 1992, THEY HAD ABOUT 400,000 ANNUAL TRIPS ON THEIR SYSTEM.
NOW IT'S BET ALMOST GETTING UP TO 2 MILLION ANNUAL TRIPS.
UM, BUT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, TO BE CONSIDERED, UM, FOR SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP YOU OUT.
SO YOU'VE GOT A BASE I MENTIONED TO BUILD FROM.
UM, SO SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, PALM BREEZE HAS 250,000 TRIPS.
SO AGAIN BELOW WHERE, UH, THE SUMMIT COUNTY SYSTEM WAS KIND OF WHEN THEY REALLY STARTED PUSHING IT.
BUT YOU'VE GOT A GOOD BASE TO START FROM.
YOU'VE GOT GOOD SOLID WHITE PET INFRASTRUCTURE HERE.
SO IF YOU, ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH BUILDING A TRANSIT SYSTEM IS TO CALL IT FIRST MILE LAST MILE.
SO THE, THE BUS WILL GET ME TO THE BUS STOP, BUT HOW DO I GET TO MY DESTINATION FROM THERE? WELL, YOU'VE GOT A GREAT SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE ONCE THEY GET TO THE BUS STOP TO WALK A LITTLE BIT OR TAKE A BIKE TO, TO GET WHERE THINGS ARE.
SO YOU'VE ACTUALLY GOT A VERY WALKABLE COMMUNITY HERE.
AND THEN SOMETHING THAT'S AN INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY IS THIS NEW BRIDGE IS GONNA HAVE A MULTI-USE PATH ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF IT.
SO IT'S KIND OF A LONG WAY FOR MOST PEOPLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKE FROM BLUFFTON ONTO HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE, BUT THE RANGE OF THOSE IS PRETTY GOOD.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO, TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT AS ANOTHER FORM OF TRANSPORTATION.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET EVERYBODY TO HAVE A MODE SHIFT, BUT IF YOU HAD A MODE SHIFT TO SAVE FIVE OR 10%, UM, THAT CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN MOVING FORWARD IN, UM, HELPING YOU OUT.
SO SOME OF THE THINGS YOU NEED TO DO, UM, THE TRANSIT SYSTEM YOU HAVE HAS GOT SOME FUNDING CONSTRAINTS.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF SERVICES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY COORDINATED ALAR LARGELY BECAUSE THE FUNDING CONSTRAINTS, AGAIN, THERE'S LIMITED SERVICE THAT'S AVAILABLE.
UM, PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF THAT, A BIG OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE TO DEVELOP SOME PARK AND RIDE LOTS.
UM, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COMMUTE BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND THERE'S REALLY NO PLACE TO PARK ON ON EITHER SIDE.
UM, DEVELOP SOME, UM, MAINTENANCE FACILITIES.
SO I TRY TO GET MIKE, UH, ONTO THE BUS.
MIKE WENT OUT, HE SAID, I'LL JUST GO OUT TO THEIR HUB, THEIR TRANSIT TRANS, YOU KNOW, THE HUB AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO TRESPASSING SIGNS.
SO THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO TO REALLY IMPROVE AND MAKE THE SYSTEM BETTER.
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LIKE IN A, WITH SOME PRETTY EASY, UH, UPDATES.SO SOME SHORT TERM, UH, TRAVEL MAN MANAGEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, REALLY GET A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE.
UM, ESTABLISH SOME PARKING, UH, PARKING AND RIDE LOCATIONS, BETTER COORDINATE THE SYSTEMS THAT YOU HAVE, DO SOME BRANDING SO PEOPLE KNOW IT'S THERE, KNOW HOW TO USE IT.
UM, LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP INTO SOME NEW MARKETS THAT ARE HERE THAT LIKE RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE WOULD, UH, BE REALLY APTT TO USE IT, UM, PROVIDE SERVICE, YOU KNOW, TO THE, THE AIRPORTS.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DENVER MODEL AND THEY DID THAT THROUGH PRIVATE SERVICE.
UM, AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS TO TALK WITH THE D O T ABOUT IS WHEN THEY'RE DE DESIGNING THE BRIDGE, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ONE OF THE SHOULDERS WIDE ENOUGH THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A FUTURE BUS ON SHOULDERS? SO IF YOU DO GET CONGESTION OUT IN THE 2040 AREA, ONE THING THAT CAN MAKE THESE BUS SERVICES MORE ATTRACTIVE IS, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE CONGESTION HITS AND, AND IT'S, IT'S SLOW TO HAVE A, HAVE THE BUS TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE SHOULDER AND KIND OF BYPASS THOSE CUES.
SO THAT'S QUITE A BIT THAT'S THERE A LOT OF IT, PRETTY TECHNICAL.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AND HOPEFULLY THAT WAS AGAIN, TOLD JARED, YOU ALREADY HAD A, A INDEPENDENT REVIEW DONE.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME VALUE.
HOPEFULLY WE GAVE YOU SOME VALUE THERE.
UH, LOTS OF INFORMATION TO DIGEST.
UM, JUST FOR THE, FOR THE PUBLIC, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY ON THIS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING.
IT'S JUST A PRESENTATION FOR US TO, TO GET UNDERNEATH OUR WINGS AND, AND, AND CIPHER.
SO, UH, MS. B, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO POSE AT THE MOMENT? I DO.
UM, AND NOT HAVING HAD THESE SLIDES BEFORE, BUT I DID WATCH YOUR PRESENTATION BEFORE THE COUNTY PUBLIC, UH, FACILITIES AND SAFETY COMMITTEE.
UM, SO, UM, I'LL JUST GO BY THE TITLES OF THE SLIDES.
UM, SO, UH, REALIZING THAT YOU DIDN'T DO A FULL STUDY ON THAT GUMTREE INTERSECTION, UM, SO YOU DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR THAT THIRD LANE GOING INTO THE ACCELERATION LANE AS YOU EXIT, UH, GUMTREE FROM THE CROSS ISLAND.
DID YOU? UM, SO IN OUR MODELS, YES, WE, SO RIGHT NOW THE NORTHBOUND LANE IS A FREE FULL LANE THAT GOES INTO THERE.
UM, THE VOLUME FOR THAT RIGHT TURN MOVEMENT ISN'T REALLY ALL THAT HEAVY.
UM, SO YES, WE DID ACCOUNT FOR, IN, IN OUR MODELS, WE MADE THAT A YIELDING, RIGHT, INSTEAD OF A A FREE RIGHT.
SO WE JUST SWITCHED THE, I GUESS THE PRIORITY TO THAT THREE THROUGH LANES VERSUS THE, THE NORTHBOUND.
AND THEN ALSO THERE'S ANOTHER PEDESTRIAN BICYCLIST CROSSING THAT YOU DIDN'T KEEP IN MIND.
IF YOU EXPAND THAT LANE WHERE YOU'VE GOT YOUR UM, UH, LIKE A COMMENT BOX CONVERT EASTBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE TO A THREE RIGHT TURN LANE, SO THERE IS ANOTHER CROSSING THERE.
UM, AND UH, SO YOU DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR THAT CROSSING EITHER IN COMMENTING ON IT, AND I REALIZE YOU DIDN'T DO A FULL STUDY THERE, BUT, UM, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF LOW HANGING FRUIT, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I KNOW.
SO, UM, ANYHOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS AND ASK, UM, THEN, UM, UH, IN LOOKING AT, UM, THE BENEFITS WAS A SLIDE ON BENEFITS? YES.
SO AS I UNDERSTAND THE RED, UM, THAT'S A DELAY WITH THE BUILD, THE S E D O T PROJECT, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO THIS ONE, THIS IS, IF WE TAKE OUR VISTA MODEL AND WE ONLY PUT IN THE DOT'S PROJECT AS UH, THEY DISPLAYED IT TO US, THAT'S THE DELAY THAT WOULD OCCUR.
SO THERE'S STILL A, A DELAY EVEN AFTER, UH, DID YOU DO A COST ESTIMATE ON THE S E D O T PROJECT? NO, WE DID NOT DO ANY COST ESTIMATES.
UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE COST ASSESSMENT IS FOR THE S E D O T PROJECT? UH, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, NO.
UM, ALL RIGHT, SO THEN YOUR, YOUR GREEN BOX THERE FOLLOWING THAT SAME LINE, 2023 BUILD PLUS THE GUMTREE LOW HANGING FEATURE DISCUSSING.
SO THAT SAVES 10 MINUTES, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, YES.
AND THEN, UH, WITH THE, THE BUILD, UM, THE S E D O T PROJECT, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT ANYTHING ELSE AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, THEN THE WESTBOUND US 2 78 WITH THE BILL, YOU'RE GONNA SAVE 9.8 MINUTES, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, SO IT, SO THESE ARE THE TRAVEL TIMES.
SO THEN THAT CASE WOULD ACTUALLY SAVE ABOUT 20 MINUTES.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 29 AND 9.8.
UM, THEN, UM, YOUR SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE FUTURE A AND PEAK TRAFFIC.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE S E D O PROJECT IS, IS CLOSE TO $300 MILLION.
UM, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHETHER IT'S PLUS OR MINUS NOW AND HOW MUCH 'CAUSE IT KEEPS SEEMING TO CHANGE.
BUT IF, IF THAT PROJECT WOULD TAKE THREE TO FIVE YEARS AND IT STARTS, I MEAN, THE EARLIEST IT COULD START WOULD BE SOMETIME IN 2024.
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YEARS PLUS 2024, YOU GET US TO 2029 AND LOOKING AT YOUR 20:35 AM BUILD, WE'RE ALREADY, UM, AS YOU SAID BEFORE, WE'RE ALREADY, UH, OVER CAPACITY IN PUSHING CONGESTION.AND WHEN WE GET TO 24, SO I GUESS YOU DIDN'T TAKE A LOOK AT WHY SPEND ALMOST $300 MILLION WHEN IN ABOUT 10 YEARS, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE PRO HAVING PROBLEMS WITH CAPACITY AND CONGESTION.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND, AND MA'AM, SO I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THE PROJECT, WE'RE NOT TAKING A STANCE, WE'RE PROVIDING THE RESULTS OF OUR STUDY.
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR STUDY SHOWS IS THAT BY 2035 WE'RE ALREADY GONNA HAVE CONGESTION AND CAPACITY PROBLEMS. IS THAT TRUE? RIGHT, MA'AM, BY WHEN WE START GETTING 20 35, 20 40, EVEN WITH THE PROJECT, UM, NOW IT'S, IT'LL OPERATE BETTER THAN WHAT'S THERE TODAY.
SO THERE'S A BENEFIT FROM WHAT'S THERE TODAY, BUT THERE COULD STILL BE CONGESTIONS, UH, DURING THOSE PEAK TIMES.
SO IN A SHORT TIME THEREAFTER, YOUR, YOUR STUDY SHOWS THAT BY 2035 WE'RE GONNA HAVE CAPACITY AND CONGESTION PROBLEMS EVEN IF THE S E D O T PROJECT IS BILLED.
AND THAT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UM, IN ADDITION TO TO THE PROJECT, YOU WOULD WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT SOME TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT MEASURES TO TRY TO SLOW THAT GROWTH.
SO THE CURRENT, WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT THE CURRENT PROJECT WILL CERTAINLY HANDLE TODAY'S TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
UM, AT SOME POINT TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO GROW AND THAT PROJECT WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF, UM, SOME, SOME AMOUNT OF THOSE FUTURE GROWTH.
VOLUMES AND, AND BECAUSE OUR ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEM, UH, IS STILL IN THE PROCESS BEING COMPLETED, WE, WAS YOUR STUDY COMPLETED? WHEN WAS OUR STUDY COMPLETED? CORRECT? UH, IT WAS, UH, SEPTEMBER.
SO, UM, DID YOU MAKE ANY ANALYSIS OF WHAT IF THERE WERE AN ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEM? SO WITHIN THE VISTA? UM, AS, AS A TECHNICAL THING WITHIN THE VISTA MODELS, UM, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PUT IN ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONTROL.
UM, WE WORK WITH THOSE SYSTEMS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THE SYSTEMS WORK WELL WHEN, ESPECIALLY IN VARIABLE TRAFFIC PATTERNS, THAT HELPS TO ADJUST THE SIGNAL TIMING WHEN YOU'RE AT CAPACITY, LIKE SPARK POP IS, UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE VERY LITTLE, UM, IMPACT ON THE ABILITY TO MOVE CARS THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.
BUT YOU DIDN'T MAKE AN ANALYSIS OF IT.
UM, AND, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU DIDN'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR SEA PINE CIRCLE.
YOU RECOMMENDED THAT THERE BE A STUDY OF THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, TAKING A LOOK AT THE FUTURE PROBLEMS HERE, WHAT YOUR SUGGESTION IS THAT WE INSTALL A TRA UH, A MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM.
IS THAT THE ONLY SOLUTION YOU'RE SUGGESTING? WELL, WE LOOK AT TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS, UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE ABILITY TO SHIFT PEOPLE AND GIVE PEOPLE OPTIONS TO USE OTHER MODES, EITHER PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, WALKING, BIKING, E-BIKES, UM, JUST HAVE OTHER WAYS OTHER THAN USE PERSONAL CARS PARK AND RIDE CARPOOL.
UM, SO THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT TOOLS AVAILABLE AND WE ARE, YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE THINK WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL IS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COMMUTE IN AND, AND OUT EVERY DAY.
SO YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT ANOTHER BRIDGE OPTION OR A FERRY SYSTEM OPTION? UM, NO, THAT WAS OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE OF WORK.
BUT A MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM IS WHAT WAS WITHIN YOUR SCOPE OF WORK? WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM WAS TO ADDRESS THIS, UM, QUESTION HERE AS FAR AS FUTURE GROWTH.
SO IF WE CAN, UH, CURB BEND THIS CURVE DOWN AND GET LESS FUTURE GROWTH AND, AND SLOW DOWN THE GROWTH OF TRAFFIC, THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW THE, THE DOT'S IMPROVEMENTS TO LAST LONGER.
SO THAT, UM, WE DID, I GUESS WE DID AN EXTRA FOR THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, AND THAT WE THOUGHT THIS WAS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT AND EXPLORE WITH THE, UM, THE GROWTH THAT WAS OUT THERE AND WHAT THAT, WHAT, WHAT OPPORTUNITIES DO WE HAVE TO, TO LIMIT THAT GROWTH WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, BIG IN, WITHOUT A BIG, IN AN EXTRA BRIDGE.
THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STUDY.
THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WENT TO HAVE ABLE TO DO.
SO I, I JUST WANNA, I, I TRIED TO LIST THE POINTS AS, AS YOU WENT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION ALL THE, ALL THREE TIMES NOW I'VE LISTENED TO IT.
UM, SO THIS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOUR SUMMARY IS, FIRST OF ALL, THERE HAS TO BE NEW BRIDGES, WIDER BRIDGES TO ADDRESS THE CAPACITY.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SECOND, IF YOU BUILD, ACCORDING TO THE S E D O PLANS WILL BE, UM, UH, HAVING CONGESTION AND DELAY AROUND 2040.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
IN SOME PLACES EARLIER IN 2035.
AND, AND SO I, I GUESS IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO NOTE THAT TWO THINGS, THE NEW BRIDGE WILL OPERATE BETTER THAN THE EXISTING BRIDGE OPERATES, RIGHT? UM, NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, UM, THERE'S, THERE WILL BE MORE CAPACITY IN THE SYSTEM TO ABLE TO GET MORE THROUGHPUT DURING THOSE PEAK HOURS,
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UM, WITH A NEW BRIDGE AS, AS OPPOSED TO THE SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE TODAY.BUT AS EARLY AS 2035 WE'RE ALREADY GONNA BE HAVING PROBLEMS, YOU COULD START TO SEE, UM, CONGESTIVE AND IT'D BE SHORT, SHORTER LIVED.
BUT YOU COULD START TO SEE CONGESTIVE YEAH.
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU SEE TODAY, BUT RIGHT, RIGHT.
BUT THE REALITY IS BASED ON YOUR STUDY, AND, AND THAT'S AGAIN ON THE SLIDE THAT YOU SHOWED.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT COLORS.
UM, AND THEN, UM, AGAIN, NO ANALYSIS OF ADAPTED TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEM IN THE FUTURE IS BUILD A MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM, NO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SEA PINE CIRCLE, HAVE ANOTHER STUDY AND ONLY, UH, THE ONE RECOMMENDATION ON THE GUMTREE LANE.
SO THAT, THAT'S A SUMMARY THAT I WROTE DOWN.
I, I KNOW YOURS IS WAY MORE DETAILED THAN THAT.
UM, BUT, UM, THAT'S ALL I GOT OUT OF IT.
MR. BROWN, ANY COMMENTS? SURE.
UM, APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING, UH, TRULY INDEPENDENT.
YOUR, UM, INABILITY TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS TELLS ME THAT YOU HAVE NOT BEEN INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT.
SO I, I CAN APPRECIATE, UM, SORT OF THE IGNORANCE, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, I, I ONLY HAVE, I GUESS, TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT YOUR CHECK YET OR NOT, BUT I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THERE WAS A WAY TO INCORPORATE THE WINDMILL HARBOR NEW LIGHT INTO YOUR, UH, VIS BOTTLE.
UM, SO I, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MR. FRAS IF I COULD, BECAUSE I THINK, UM, YOU, YOU'RE JUST A MESSENGER, SO I NEED TO TALK TO THE, THE COUNTY MANAGER.
AND IN SOME REGARD, YOU'RE JUST A MESSENGER AS WELL BECAUSE COUNTY COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO BE MAKING THE FINAL CALL HERE.
SO I'M SORT OF RELATING BACK TO THE M O U THAT HAS BEEN AGREED UPON BY BOTH PARTIES.
UM, SO JAY, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THE COUNTY COUNCIL REACTED TO THIS INDEPENDENT STUDY THAT SORT OF SHOWS THE, THE, THE FUTURE DEMANDS AND, YOU KNOW, IN A SENSE NOT A WHOLE LOT OF IMPROVEMENT ALONG THE WAY.
THERE WERE, UM, NO MAJOR DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT, THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD THAT BROUGHT TO SEAN, UM, THAT, THAT CAUGHT THEM OFF GUARD OR UNAWARE OR, UM, I MEAN, IT WAS, I GUESS FAVORABLY WOULD BE SUMMATION.
AND AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, UH, THE FIRM IS MAKING, ANY REACTION TO THOSE? NO.
SO THAT WILL BE COMING UP AT THE PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE, UM, UPCOMING NEXT MONDAY, I BELIEVE.
UM, SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WHETHER TO ADOPT OR APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR DISAPPROVE.
UM, MR. MAYOR? UM, I, I'VE PROBABLY BEEN WORKING ON THIS AS LONG AS MR. STANFORD DOWN THERE.
UM, AND I CAN REMEMBER, UM, THIS TOWN, THE, THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME SORT OF ADOPTING SOME GUIDING PRINCIPLES WITH THE PROJECT.
AND ONE OF 'EM WAS THIS IDEA OF EXPLORING ALTERNATE MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION.
UM, AND IT SEEMS THAT THAT'S NOW FINALLY COMING TO LIGHT WITH THIS INDEPENDENT STUDY.
UH, SO I GUESS WHAT I, THE MESSAGE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO SEND TO OUR COUNTERPARTS AT THE COUNTY IS, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE MISSED A LITTLE BIT ALONG THE WAY, OR MAYBE A LOT WE CAN ARGUE THAT, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE MORE QUALIFIED INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US, AND WE'LL HAVE EVEN MORE, SO ONCE OUR STUDY IS, THEN I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THAT QUALIFIED DISCUSSION? OKAY.
AND IT NOT BE THIS CAT AND MOUSE THAT WE'VE BEEN PLAYING OVER THE YEARS.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS A COMMUNITY.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DRASTIC MOVES AS FAR AS THIS PROJECT IS CONCERNED, BECAUSE THIS, TO ME IS VERY TELLING AS FAR AS THE FUTURE OF, OF OUR COMMUNITY AND COUNTY OVERALL.
NOW, I, I, I COULD ASK A QUESTION LIKE, HOW DID YOU ELIMINATE SOME OF THE MORE, UM, EXTRAORDINARY IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT FORWARD IN THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO OPINE ON THAT AT THIS TIME, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME EITHER.
UM, I, WHAT IDEAS? UM, CROSSOVERS, UM, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ALIGNMENTS,
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DIFFERENT, UM, ELEVATIONS.SO, SO THERE'S, UM, WE DID NOT LOOK AT LYMAN'S PER SE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
OUR SCOPE OF WORK WAS REALLY TRAFFIC.
SO WHETHER, UM, THE ALIGNMENT SHIFTS A HUNDRED FEET OR 200 FEET ONE WAY OR THE OTHER REALLY ISN'T GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE TRAFFIC SIDE.
UM, SO YEAH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WEREN'T IN THE SCOPE THAT WE, I I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE COMMUNITY WAS PUSHING SO HARD WAS TO EITHER VALIDATE THOSE IDEAS OR JUST DISCARD THEM WITH REASON.
SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF ANSWER AT THIS TIME, ALTHOUGH I DO RESPECT THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THIS PARTICULAR STUDY AND, UH, CAN TELL THAT YOU'RE, UH, YOUR COMPANY, UM, UNDERSTANDS THE METHODS AND THE WAYS TO GET CONCLUSIONS.
I'M JUST NOT POSITIVE THAT A PORTION OF OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE SATISFIED THAT WE'VE GIVEN THEM THE ANSWERS.
SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO WALK INTO A CONVERSATION THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND ONE THAT SAYS, UM, UH, CONTROVERSIAL.
AND, UM, AS THIS ONE IS, AND IT IS, THIS BRIDGE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO OUR RESIDENTS, TO OUR COMMUNITY, TO OUR PAST AND OUR FUTURE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR, UM, EXTENDED FAMILY ACROSS THE BRIDGE.
AND, AND WITH THAT BRINGS A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO HELP.
HAVING SAID THAT, THERE ARE ISSUES THAT COME UP WITH IN YOUR REPORT, UM, THAT I'M PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE TO AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND HAPPY THAT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD.
ONE OF MY LONG-TERM, UM, EMPHASIS AS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THESE ISSUES IS THAT TRANSPORTATION IS, UM, WITH REGARD TO A PARK AND RIDE, THAT SORT OF, UM, DISCUSSION THAT YOU'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN YOUR REPORT SHOULD BE A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THIS.
UM, WE HAVE MONIES THAT WE CAN SPEND TO PURCHASE PROPERTY, TO, TO WORK WITH OUR ASSOCIATED AGENCIES AROUND THE STATE, TO, TO GET SOME OF THE BARRIERS BROKEN DOWN, DEVELOP, TO DEVELOP THAT IT'LL SOLVE PROBLEMS WITH WORKFORCE COMING OVER.
UM, IT'LL SOLVE PROBLEMS WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING.
IT'LL ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE THE DIGNITY AND RIGHT.
UM, AND I SAY THAT IN A, IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T COME OUT THE WAY I FULLY MEAN IT, TO, TO LIVE WHERE THEY WANNA LIVE AND THE WAY THEY WANNA LIVE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR REPORT, AND THANK YOU FOR ADDING IT.
UM, AT 320 BILLION PLUS THEREABOUTS, WHATEVER THE COST ULTIMATELY IS WITH THIS PROJECT.
A NUMBER OF CONSIDERATIONS HAVING BEEN, UM, HAVEN'T BEEN, UM, THOUGHT THROUGH YOU.
YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING WASN'T CONSIDERED WITH REGARD TO, UM, REDUCTION IN GROWTH.
A COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER, I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED EVEN, UM, SAID, WELL, WHAT IF THERE ARE REDUCED NUMBERS AND WE HAVE AN INITIATIVE IN PLACE THAT OUR STATE SENATOR HAS HELPED PUT INTO PLACE THROUGH A PENNY TAX TO, TO BUY LAND, TO, TO CREATE LESS DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL OFFSET SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC COMING ONTO THE ISLAND.
SO THAT IS IMPACTFUL, NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE ANALYSIS.
UM, THOSE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IS IMPORTANT.
UM, THE, THE IDEA OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT INTERNALLY, UM, WITH REGARD TO CINE CIRCLE, THAT IS PART OF THE EQUATION THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE ANALYSIS.
AND SO NOT HAVING CONSIDERED THOSE THINGS IS BOTHERSOME TO ME.
THE IDEA THAT THE STONY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, IS NOT CONSIDERED IN A WAY, IS MEANINGFUL.
UM, THAT THE FINAL STATEMENT, AS I HEARD IT, WAS THERE'S NO WAY TO GET THROUGH THAT COMMUNITY WITHOUT ENLARGING HAVING THE IMPACTS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID.
UM, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT AN OUTCOME THAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH.
AND I THINK THAT OUTCOME COULD BE DIFFERENT IF ALL OF THOSE OTHER PIECES WERE PART OF THE ANALYSIS.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK STILL TO BE DONE.
AND WHILE I DON'T AGREE THAT YOUR REPORT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT A PORTION OF OUR COMMUNITY WON'T BE HAPPY WITH, UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE A
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SOLUTION.I THINK YOUR SOLUTIONS ARE AS MUCH NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF YOUR ANALYSIS IN THE REPORT AND BENEFICIAL TO THE DISCUSSION AS WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US TODAY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
THE PARTS YOU LEFT OUT ARE AS IMPORTANT AS WHAT YOU INCLUDED, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE REAL FOCUS IS REALLY SHOULD, SHOULD STILL BE.
THAT TELLS US MORE OF WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT WHERE WE CAN GET TO, TO PROVIDE US WITH WHAT WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO AS A REASONABLE SOLUTION TO OUR LONG-TERM GOALS, TRANSPORTATION, PARK AND RIDE, UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACTS OF REDUCED DEVELOPMENT OFF IOWA, ALLOWING FOR, UM, HOUSING OF DIFFERENT TYPES TO DEVELOP ELSEWHERE.
UM, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED.
IS IT BOTTOM LINE? ANOTHER QUESTION, AND I THINK PATSY WAS DRIVING AT THIS, UM, IS, IS 20 MINUTES SAVING IN AN AFTERNOON PEAK HOUR WORTH $320 BILLION TO ANYONE IN THIS ROOM? AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION MARK ON IT.
I'M NOT GONNA BELABOR IT, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT IF, IF, IF WE REALLY WANNA FIND SOLUTIONS, WE LOOK AT THOSE UNANSWERED PIECES AND NOT, UM, BUILD A BRIDGE FOR 10 YEARS, THAT DOESN'T SATISFY ANYBODY'S NEEDS LONG TERM.
I GUESS, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS IN RESPONSE TO THAT, THE AREAS, UM, THAT YOU'VE GOT CONCERN WITH, I THINK ARE ACTUALLY, UM, ARE, ARE DOCUMENT SUPPORT THAT, SO WE LOOK AT LAND USE POLICY, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT, AND WE FOCUS ON THE TRANSPORTATION ASPECT, WHICH WE DID.
LAND USE POLICY IS ANOTHER FORM OF TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT, RIGHT? SO IF YOU HAVE LESS DEVELOPMENT ON THE ISLAND, AND YOU CAN AGAIN, CURB BEND THIS CURVE DOWN, UM, WE DON'T GET TO 2045, RIGHT? SO THAT KIND OF GETS BACK TO THE WIDENING TO SIX LANES IS WHAT'S NEEDED FOR NOW.
UM, AND IT GETS YOU BENEFITS INTO THE FUTURE.
UM, IF WE WANNA TO NOT HAVE CONGESTION IN THE FUTURE, WE NEED TO BEND THIS, THIS CURVE DOWN.
AND THAT CAN BE DONE EITHER THROUGH PROVIDING ALTERNATE NEED NEEDS OF TRANSPORTATION OR THINGS LIKE LAND USE POLICY.
UM, ONE OF THE AREAS WITH THE, WITH THE STONY COMMUNITY AND, AND SOMETHING THAT WE LOOKED AT AND WOULD BE A DISCUSSION WITH THE D O T IS, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF LANES THROUGH THERE AND THEY'RE ALL 12 FOOT LANES.
UM, IN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, WE DON'T NEED 12 FOOT LANES.
UM, WE HARDLY, IN A ROAD LIKE THIS, AND WITH OUR FIRM, WE HARDLY EVER RECOMMEND 12 FOOT LANES.
YOU'RE COMING INTO FROM A FREEWAY TYPE FACILITY AND DO AN URBAN TYPE FACILITY.
I'VE SEEN PEOPLE BUILD 10 AND A HALF 10.
SO YOU COULD PROBABLY FIT ALL THOSE LANES WITHIN PRETTY MUCH THE FOOTPRINT THAT'S THERE NOW WITH SOME DESIGN EXCEPTIONS ON THE DESIGN FRONT, AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF OUT OF OUR SCOPE OF WORK.
SO THERE'S, THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THAT COMMUNITY, UM, AND STILL GET THE THROUGHPUT CAPACITY, UM, THAT'S REALLY NEEDED TO GET THE, BUT IN YOUR OPINION THEN, IS THE BRIDGE THE FIRST AND THEN WE, WE WE PUT ON ALL OF THESE OTHERS? OR IS THERE, IS THERE A PATTERN THAT IS USEFUL TO, TO, TO CREATE A BETTER TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO LOOK AT THE IMPACTS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY BEGUN WITH REGARD TO LAND CONSERVATION AND RE UH, REDUCE DEVELOPMENT OFF ISLAND? UM, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, WHAT I AM SEEING, MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION IS IT'S ALL ONE SYSTEM.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BRIDGE, WHEN WE LOOK AT SQUARE POPE, WE LOOK AT GUMTREE, WE EVEN LOOK AT SEA PINE CIRCLE, WE LOOK AT DEMAND MANAGEMENT.
I WOULDN'T WAIT TILL 2040 TO START BUILDING UP YOUR TRANSIT SYSTEM.
I'D START THAT TOMORROW, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT TAKES A WHILE TO BUILD A SYSTEM OUT.
IF YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT LANDYS POLICY, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANNA START LOOKING AT RIGHT AWAY.
SO ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT AND THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER AND SUPPORT TOGETHER, AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE MODELING, UM, BECAUSE ONE LITTLE CHANGE HAS RIPPLE EFFECTS THROUGH THE SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY, UH, WITH THIS.
SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT AND ALL THESE THINGS FIT TOGETHER.
WOULD THERE BE A BIG ENOUGH IMPACT IN YOUR OPINION, WITH THOSE OTHER PIECES BEING WORKED ON AND PUT INTO PLACE, UM, THAT WOULD OFFSET THE LONG TERM NEED FOR SIX LANES, ET CETERA? FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
FROM THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THE BRIDGE HIT ITS CAPACITY FIVE YEARS AGO.
SO IT'S AT CAPACITY, IT'S PAST CAPACITY.
SO EVEN IF YOU HAD ZERO GROWTH ON THE ISLAND, UM, YOU STILL HAVE THAT CONGESTIVE PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE.
SO THAT NEW WIDENING, UM, GETS YOU THE CAPACITY THAT YOU NEED FOR TODAY'S SYSTEM.
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THINK ON TOP OF THAT, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE BENEFICIAL TO LOOK AT WAYS TO DECREASE THE DEMAND, UM, FOR THAT BRIDGE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE.SO THAT FACILITY THAT THE D O T WOULD BUILD WOULD HAVE LONG, YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE LONGEVITY, WOULD, WOULD LAST INTO THE FUTURE WITHOUT, UM, SIGNIFICANT CONGESTION PROBLEMS. SO IT'S REALLY EVEN A THREE, FIVE, MAYBE SEVEN YEAR BUILD OUT.
UM, IT'LL BE NEEDED IN FIVE YEARS.
SO FROM A COMP CAPACITY STANDPOINT, AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, WE HAD A, UM, JUST A LITTLE STORY IN THE ST.
WE HAVE A TRANSIT SYSTEM AND, UM, IT WAS FACING A FUNDING SHORTFALL, AND CHESTERFIELD IS A MORE FLUENT AREA IN THE ST.
AND THE MAYOR OF CHESTERFIELD, JOHN NATIONS, UM, WAS THE BIGGEST TO SUPPORT THE TRANSIT SYSTEM.
AND, AND HE ACTUALLY ENDED UP BECOMING THE C E O OF THE, OF THE METRO SYSTEM.
AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WHY IS JOHN, WHY IS JOHN NATION, SO WHY IS TRANSIT IMPORTANT TO HIM? WELL, THEY, THERE'S A LOT OF RETAIL AND THE FOLKS THAT WORK IN THOSE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS DON'T LIVE IN THE CHESTERFIELD COMMUNITY.
THEY HAVE TO BE, THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR, A LOT OF'EM ARE TRANSIT DEPENDENT.
SO WHEN THAT TRANSIT, THE FUNDING SHORTFALL HIT, THE TRANSIT SYSTEM WAS CUT, BUSINESSES WERE SCREAMING TO, TO JOHN NATIONS, HEY, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T GET WORKFORCE RIGHT? THERE'S NOBODY, SO WHAT HE, HIS MOTTO WAS, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, WE DON'T ALL USE IT, BUT WE ALL NEED IT.
LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO STARBUCKS AND GET A COFFEE IN THE MORNING, YOU NEED TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO'S SERVING YOU, YOUR COFFEE ISN'T LIVING IN THE CHESTERFIELD COMMUNITY.
AND SO WHAT I'M SEEING SIMILARITIES HERE WITH HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND THAT YOUR WORKFORCE THAT'S DOING ALL THE SERVICES HERE, A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS ARE COMMUTING IN, IN AND OUT ON A DAILY BASIS.
UM, AND YOU CAN GET, PROVIDE ALTERNATE NEEDS MEANS FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR THEM.
BUT WHAT WE, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO AND, AND LOOKING AT THIS IS WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, UM, HOW MUCH TRANSIT SHIFT DO YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY GET A A REASONABLE AMOUNT THAT REALLY CAN INFLUENCE THESE GRAPHS AND, AND GET RID OF SOME OF THIS RED DOWN IN THE OUT YEARS, RIGHT? AND MAYBE IF YOU HAVE A 10% MODE SHIFT, IF YOU GET RID OF THE THIRD LANE AND YOU JUST KEPT YOUR EXISTING BRIDGE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A MUCH MORE DRASTIC MODE SHIFT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO STILL HAVE A REASONABLE TRAFFIC FLOW ON AND OFF THE ISLAND.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY ALL PARTS TO THE SAME PUZZLE THAT HAVE TO FIT TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER TO, TO MAKE THIS WORK OUT FOR YOU LONG TERM.
I HEAR SOME, I, I HEAR SOME GOOD ANSWERS IN THERE AND, UM, IT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION THAT I HOPE WE HAVE AND THAT WE DON'T LOOK SHORTSIGHTED.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT NOT BEING A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
I CAN'T SAY THAT I'VE NECESSARILY FOLLOWED IT ALL, BUT IN TERMS OF A FEW QUESTIONS YOU MENTIONED ST.
LOUIS AND THE IMPACT OF THE TRANSIT SYSTEM IN ST.
LOUIS? UH, WE'RE ABOUT 3 MILLION PEOPLE ISH.
VERSUS ABOUT 35 TO 40,000 HERE.
SO THE DIFFERENCE IN SCALE IN THOSE THINGS RAISES A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN MY MIND ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF A MORE ELABORATE SYSTEM NOW HAVING TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC MODELING AND SO FORTH THAT YOU'VE DONE HERE.
UM, YOU STATED THAT YOU WERE HERE IN MARCH? THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU HAVE DATA THAT CARRIED YOU ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BUSY SEASON HERE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO, UM, WITH THESE PLOTS, UM, THESE ARE D O T COUNTS.
SO, UH, SOUTH CAROLINA D O T HAS COUNT STATIONS ON BOTH, UM, CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY AND ON, UM, 2 78 COMING ONTO THE ISLAND.
UM, AND WE TOOK DOWN A LOT OF DATA FROM THOSE, THOSE THOSE, AND THOSE GO BACK HISTORICALLY, RIGHT? SO WE TOOK A LOT OF THE HISTORICAL DATA, WE TOOK THE CURRENT DATA, AND, AND WE WANTED TO SEE HOW, UM, THOSE, THAT TRAFFIC VARIED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND VARIED FROM YEAR TO YEAR TO YEAR.
SO, UM, YES, I MEAN, THAT WAS THE DATA THAT WE DID.
WE, WE TOOK FROM THE DOT'S COUNT STATIONS.
DID YOU STUDY ANY OF THE TOWN COLLECTIVE DATA? THE TOWN? UM, SO WE DID GET COUNTS FROM THE TOWN.
I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVIEW, UM, WHICH ONES WE TOOK AND WHICH ONES WE GOT FROM THE TOWN, BUT WE'D GOT A LOT OF COUNTS FROM THE CAP TOWN AS WELL.
I WAS JUST CONCERNED WHEN YOU SAY MARCH, MARCH IS NOT THE SEASON HERE.
NO, MARCH IS NOT WHEN WE HAVE MAJOR CONGESTION.
RATHER IT STARTS IN APRIL AND IT GOES UNTIL NOW.
UM, AND THEN IT STARTS TO, TO DIE OFF.
THE SEASON HAS, HAS CHANGED SOMEWHAT, BUT, UM, WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
UH, COUNCILMAN SANFORD, WE DID PROVIDE THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT WE'VE TAKEN IN JUNE.
WE DID PROVIDE SOME JULY COUNTS
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THAT WE DID THIS YEAR.WE'VE TRANSITIONED FROM JUNE TO JULY TO TAKE THOSE COUNTS.
UM, AND SO THEY DID HAVE THAT HISTORIC INFORMATION.
UM, WHEN THE PROJECT WAS KICKED OFF, WE LOOKED AT A, UH, A, A WEEK EARLIER IN THE YEAR THAT WAS PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT WE CALL THE 85TH BUSIEST PERIOD.
UM, AND SO THAT WEEK IN MARCH WAS VERY CLOSE, UM, IN PROXIMITY TO THE WEEK, TO THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC THAT WE EXPERIENCED IN JULY.
UM, AND ONE NOTE, UM, DURING SCHOOL, WHEN SCHOOL'S IN SESSION, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THAT WE SEE IN AM AND PM PEAK THAT WE EXPERIENCE SIMILARLY IN THE SUMMER SEASON WITH, UM, WITH ADDITIONAL TRIPS BECAUSE OF OUR, OUR BEACHES AND AND HOSPITALITY HERE.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
SO WE DID MAKE SURE IT WAS VERY CLOSE IN THAT COUNT.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, SEAN.
UM, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE CHARTS THAT, UM, SHOWING AM AND PM AND THE GREEN THERE WE ARE A, AS I LOOK AT THESE NOT BEING AN EXPERT, OOPS.
EVEN THOUGH THEY WENT AWAY,
UM, BUT WHAT I SEE IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S DOING.
I'M NOT, UH, WHAT I SEE HERE IS A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT IN THE GREEN AS A RESULT OF THE PROJECT, UH, BEING BUILT.
AND THAT GOES FORWARD WITH A DRAMATIC CHANGE FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS, UH, BEFORE IT STARTS TO DIE OFF.
I DON'T LOOK AT THIS CARTER OR PROJECT, WHICH IS THE WAY I REFER TO IT.
I DON'T LOOK AT THIS CARTER OR PROJECT AS A MAGIC SOLUTION WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE FREE FLOWING TRAFFIC.
UH, WE ARE ATTRACTING A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE.
WE'RE ATTRACTING PEOPLE HERE BECAUSE OF OUR CLIMATE, BECAUSE OF OUR BEACH, UH, BECAUSE OF THE ATTITUDES THAT ARE HERE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
UH, YES, WE ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP SOME CONTROLS HERE, UH, HAVING TO DO WITH OVERDEVELOPMENT AND MANAGING DEVELOPMENT BETTER.
BUT I SEE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN TRAFFIC FLOW WITH THESE GREEN ZONES.
I'M LOOKING HERE AT AM, SHOW ME THE PM IF YOU WOULD.
UH, IF I LOOK AT, JUST LOOK AT A, A, A, IF YOU WILL, A GROSS VIEW, UH, OF, OF THESE THINGS.
AND SO I SEE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS COMING OUTTA THIS PROJECT.
IS IT WORTH $320 MILLION? THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY IN A VOTE THAT AGREED TO TAX THEMSELVES SAID THEY WERE WILLING TO TAX THEMSELVES TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC HERE ON HILTON NET ISLAND.
SO I THINK YOU'VE SHOWN US THROUGH INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS THAT THERE CAN BE AN IMPROVEMENT.
IT'S NOT A MAGIC SOLUTION TO EVERYTHING, BUT IT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO A WORKSHOP WITH TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND THE COUNCIL WHERE WE CAN GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN IT, SO IT'S HARD TO ASK QUESTIONS.
SO A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT I DIGEST, OBVIOUSLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AS MR. STANFORD WAS SAYING IS AS I LOOK AT ON THIS SLIDE, IS IF NOTHING WAS DONE, HOW EVERYTHING WOULD TURN RED, RIGHT? THAT'S KIND OF HOW I, I WOULD LOOK AT THAT.
AND I IMAGINE IF WE DID A VERSE VERSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD SEE IS IT WOULD JUST, THOSE GREEN BLOCKS WOULD JUST EVENTUALLY TURN RED.
UM, AND ALSO WITH THAT, I, I LOOK AT THE PURPOSE OF WHY ONE OF THE PURPOSES WHY THE BRIDGE IS BEING DONE, AND THAT IS TO PUT THEM ALL ON THE SAME SCHEDULE FOR REPLACEMENT DOWN THE ROAD.
YOU DON'T WANNA DO ONE NOW AND DO A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, CREATE ANOTHER TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PLANNING THINGS THAT GO INTO IT.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH QUESTIONS WITH YOU NOW BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.
YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS HERE ALREADY.
AND, AND THERE IS A, THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO TO UNDERSTAND THIS A LITTLE BIT DEEPER.
UM, AND OF COURSE WE'LL, WE'LL FORMULATE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AS WELL AND, AND GET TO JARED.
UM, IF YOU WILL GO TO ONE SLIDE BEFORE I GO FORWARD, AND THAT IS THE, THE REGIONAL SLIDE, UM, WHERE IT SHOWS THE TRAIN.
UM, I JUST WANNA TOUCH BASE ON THIS REAL QUICK.
IT'S SOMETHING I WAS GONNA COVER IN SO LOCO, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE ALLENDALE, COLLIN COTON HAMPER AND JASPER COUNTY, I, DID HE GO AGAIN?
UM, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY IS TALKING ABOUT A MAJOR 25 YEAR PLAN IN ROAD REDEVELOPMENT.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M, I WOULD IMAGINE WAS NOT PART OF YOUR PURVIEW FOR CONVERSATION IN ADDRESSING, BUT I THINK HAS A HUGE IMPACT AS TO WHAT THIS NEXT PATTERN OF
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ROAD WORK WILL BE AS TO HOW IT AFFECTS TRAFFIC LEAVING THE ISLAND.UM, SO WHAT 2 78 IS WHAT, ONE 70 IS, WHAT 4 62 IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THESE DIFFERENT ROADS ARE AND HOW THEY LOOK AND THE NEXT 25 YEARS IS ALSO GONNA IMPACT THAT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I JUST WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT ON RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF.
UM, AND JARED, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
MAYOR, IF I COULD OFFER JUST ONE COMMENT TO THAT.
UM, SO YOU ARE RIGHT AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.
WE ARE WORKING ON A SALES TASK COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW.
I JUST GOT ESTABLISHED LAST WEEK.
UM, THE TOWNS MEMBER AS WELL AS THE OTHER MEMBERS.
UM, SO THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY HAVE TASK BY COUNTY COUNCIL BY THE END OF THE YEAR COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT SALES TAX SHOULD BE PUT FORWARD IN THE 2024 AND BEYOND.
ONE OF THOSE BEING, UH, TRANSPORTATION.
AND THE DISCUSSION IS A LONG-TERM SOLUTION.
UM, WHAT I OFFER SPECIFIC TO THIS PRESENTATION AND THIS PROJECT AS IT RELATES TO THAT SALES TAX COMMITTEE AND THEIR TASK IS THIS FITS INTO THEIR BODY OF WORK.
SO THIS MAY NOT BE THE PERFECT SOLUTION TO 2 78, BUT IT IS A SOLUTION THAT'S BRINGING FORTH, UM, BENEFIT.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S A STEPPING STONE TOWARDS A LONG-TERM SOLUTION AND A TOWARDS FUNDING MECHANISM TO CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS.
SO THERE'S $80 MILLION THAT IS ALREADY COLLECTED FROM, FROM THE CITIZENS OF BUFORT COUNTY READY TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD, JOINED UP WITH THE, UM, D O T MONEY AND THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK FUNDING.
UM, SO THIS PLAYS A PIVOTAL ROLE IN WHAT THE NEXT 25 YEARS COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE WITH THAT SALES TAX COMMITTEE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GO BACK AND GO BACK THROUGH
I WAS JUST GONNA ASK FOR A DIGITAL COPY OF THE PRESENTATION.
IF WE GET A DIGITAL COPY OF IT.
I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF WORK, BUT THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL DO, SO WE APPRECIATE IT.
[7. Reports from Members of Town Council]
NOW WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UH, REPORTS FROM TOWN COUNCIL GENERAL REPORTS.DOES ANYBODY HAVE A GENERAL REPORT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, BLOOD COUNTRY AREA TRANSIT STUDY, MR. STANFORD? YES.
UH, THERE WAS A MEETING ON OCTOBER THE SIXTH.
UM, A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME HAD TO DO WITH AREAS INDEPENDENT OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
UH, THEY'RE CONTINUING TO BEGIN TO WORK ON, UH, THE WIDENING OF 95.
THEY'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT SOME GENERAL PLANS THERE ALSO ON U S 17 CONNECTING OVER TO THE TALMAGE BRIDGE.
UH, THAT PROJECT IS MOVING ALONG.
IT IS MOVING ALONG SLOWLY BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING TO BUILD THE ROAD ON PLUFF MUD AND THEY HAVE TO COMPRESS THAT, AND IT TAKES TIME.
THAT PROJECT IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED UNTIL OCTOBER OF 25.
I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT WE WERE GONNA BE GETTING THIS REPORT MORE LOCALLY, THE 2 78 SIGNALS.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING GLITCHES WITH PROBLEMS ON THESE INTERACTIVE SIGNALS BECAUSE THEY'RE MUCH MORE SENSITIVE, UH, TO ELECTRONIC SURGES AND SO FORTH.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER COILS, WHICH ARE THE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY TRIGGER THE SIGNAL.
SO THEY'RE GETTING SOME SHORT CIRCUITS IN THERE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK GOING ON TO IMPROVE THOSE AND TO GET THOSE MOVING FORWARD.
THERE WAS MENTION OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT WINDMILL HARBOR.
THAT SIGNAL WILL NOT BE AN INT INTELLIGENCE SIGNAL IN THE BEGINNING.
RATHER, IT WILL BE A SIGNAL THAT WILL BECOME PART OF THE, THE INTERACTIVE SIGNAL SYSTEM WHEN IT IS A PERMANENT SIGNAL.
I THINK THAT WE'RE SEEING SOME IMPROVEMENT IN TRAFFIC HERE ON THE ISLAND THANKS TO THESE INTERACTIVE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THIS MOVES FORWARD.
MS. BECKER, LOCAL COUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
UM, I DON'T MR. AMES AIRPORTS BOARD.
YES, THE BUFORT COUNTY AIRPORTS BOARD WILL BE MEETING THIS THURSDAY AT ONE 30 IN THE BEAUFORT COUNTY CHAMBERS IN BUFORT.
MR. STANFORD, I KIND OF DID YOUR REPORT A MINUTE AGO, AND SO LOCO, BUT I'LL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, PART OF, PART OF THE, THE, THE COUNTY'S LOOK AT, AT THE TRAFFIC OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS IS WHAT IS COMING IN TERMS OF REDEVELOPMENT DENSITY AND, AND NEW DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT EVERYTHING.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHAT BONDS ARE GONNA BE UTILIZED.
SO THERE'S DIFFERENT AVENUES THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT.
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UM, ONE OF THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS WAS THE, THE SALES TAX THAT, THAT MR. FRAX MENTIONED.AND, YOU KNOW, CHARLESTON HAS, HAS IMPLEMENTED A VERY LARGE TAX, UM, ROUGHLY THREE, THREE PENNIES, AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO GENERATE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFF OF THAT.
AND IT'S, AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I KINDA GET THE FEELING IT'S TRYING TO PLAY KEEP UP.
UM, SO I, I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, ONE OF THE OTHER PARTS OF THE DISCUSSION WAS HOW THAT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TAX, GREEN TAX WILL COME INTO PLAY IN ACQUIRING LAND AND WHAT THAT'S GONNA DO FOR DEVELOPMENT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND JASPER COUNTY.
SO MR. BROWN ISLAND RECREATION ASSOCIATION.
COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MET YESTERDAY AND RECEIVED A FORWARD LOOKING STRATEGIC PLAN THREE YEAR PLAN, UM, FROM THE FIRE AND RESCUE, UM, ORGANIZATION.
AND WE WERE HAPPY TO, UM, UM, SUPPORT A RESOLUTION UNANIMOUSLY TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
OKAY, MR. AMES HALL PLANNING COMMITTEE? YES, THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MET LAST FRIDAY.
MR. BROWN FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE, YES.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, UH, NY THAT TODAY.
UH, TWO AGENDA ITEMS. ONE WAS A REQUEST FROM THE R B C HERITAGE FOR, UH, AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF THEIR SPONSORSHIP, THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.
UM, THERE WERE QUESTIONS AROUND THAT TOPIC TO DEAL WITH THE, UH, BENEFIT PACKAGE OF THE, UH, SPONSORSHIP AND ALSO MARKETING.
WE ARE TO RECEIVE MORE INFORMATION FROM STAFF ON THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, AND ALSO WE TOOK UP ACT 57, THE AT TAX DOLLARS BEING USED FOR HOUSING.
UM, VERY DETAILED, UH, REPORT WITH A TIMELINE AS TO HOW WE CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN START TO DISTRIBUTE FUNDS.
UM, BUT WE ARE STILL NOT, UM, BEING ABLE TO REVIEW THE AGING OPINION.
AND THAT WILL BE TAKEN UP AT OUR NEXT F AND A MEETING AS WELL.
[8.Appearance by Citizens]
BY CITIZENS.I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS THAT SECTION TWO DASH 5 7 70 OF THE TOWN'S CODE LIMITS EACH PERSON TO THREE MINUTES WHEN ADDRESSING TOWN COUNCIL.
AT THE END OF THE THREE MINUTES, YOU'RE ASKED TO CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS.
PLEASE MAINTAIN THAT A DECORUM SUITABLE FOR THE MEETING AND REFRAIN FROM USING ANY PROFANE, ABUSIVE, OR OBSCENE LANGUAGE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY MATERIALS YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE TO THE TOWN COUNCIL, PLEASE GIVE THEM TO THE TOWN CLERK AFTER YOU'RE FINISHED SPEAKING.
KIMBERLY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TODAY? YES, FRANK BABEL.
UH, MY NAME IS FRANK BABEL, AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW ME, UH, I REPRESENT BIKE WALK HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
WE'RE AN ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION THAT, UH, DEALS AND HELPS THE TOWN WITH, UH, UH, THE POAS AND THE COMMUNITY WITH, UH, HELPING MAKE HILTON HEAD ISLAND SAFER AND MORE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
UM, AND I'M UP HERE BASICALLY THE ATTABOYS FOR THE TOWN WERE DESERVED AND TO RAISE ISSUES, WERE AWARDED, UM, GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS.
AFTER ABOUT 10 YEARS OF BEING THE NUMBER ONE BEST THING TO DO ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
WE'VE BEEN BUMPED TO THREE
NUMBER TWO, THE GOOD NEWS IS IT'S KLINKY PARK AND A NUMBER OF OTHER PARKS ARE IN THE TOP 10.
I MEAN, WE'RE GLAD TO SEE THAT HAPPEN 'CAUSE THAT SHOWS WHAT AARON AND THE TEAM HAS DONE TO MAKE THAT PLACE WORLD CLASS.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU FOR FUNDING IT AND AARON AND THE TEAM FOR DOING THE JOB THEY DID.
AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME HERE, THE IMPORTANCE OF PARKS TO OUR SOCIETY.
OKAY, WE'LL BE BACK TO NUMBER ONE IN A FEW YEARS, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
NUMBER THREE IS, OKAY, I HATE TO SAY NUMBER ONE IS THE DISTILLERY.
I GUESS THERE'S A MESSAGE IN THAT ONE.
UM, SOME OTHER GOOD NEWS, THE NEW PATHWAYS IN, UH, SHELTER COVE ARE JUST A HOME RUN, GETTING GREAT FEEDBACK.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR PATHWAYS AND THEY'RE HAPPY WITH IT, AND THEY'RE WALKING AROUND AND IT'S JUST BEEN A REAL, A REAL GOOD SUCCESS OF THE POETRY TRAILS AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE PLACES TO SIT AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.
WE HAVE A NEW PATHWAY ON WOODWARD THAT'S THAT WOODHAVEN THAT'S GOING UP.
IT'S GONNA ASSIST NEIGHBORS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
GET AWAY FROM A VERY BAD INTERSECTION AT CORDI AND, UH, POPE AND, UH, BYPASS IT.
IT'S GONNA HELP PEOPLE IN THE SEA WORK AND THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A VERY GOOD STEP.
THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A LOT THAT'S NEEDED.
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THE OTHER ATTABOY IS, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE SIGNAGE THERE.WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE COME UP AND RIDE THEIR BIKES AND SAY, OH, THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WHAT DO I DO? SO AT LEAST NOW THERE ARE SIGNS THAT SAY IT'S CLOSED, WATCH OUT.
BUT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO ALSO SEE IS A LITTLE ARROW THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHERE YOU OUGHT TO GO.
SO THERE, YOU'RE ALMOST THERE, BUT THE NEXT THING IS PUT AN ARROW THAT SAYS, OKAY, JUST GO AROUND ME, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE IS, UM, THE INTERSECTION OF ARROW ROAD AND PALMETTO GROVE ROAD.
IT MAKES A STATEMENT ABOUT OUR FUTURE.
IT HATS OFF TO JEN AND BEST WISHES TO HER AND TO CARLA VINCENT FOR THE NEW PROOF OF CONCEPT MAP, KIOSK DESIGN.
IT'S WITH IT AND IT'S COST EFFICIENT.
BUT WHAT WE WOULD ASK IS THE STAFF WORK WITH US ON THE, ON THIS, ON THE ACTUAL TIPS, THE SAFETY TIPS ARE GONNA BE ON IT.
'CAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING OUT OF 15 YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TRAINED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, WE GET LOTS OF FEEDBACK FROM THE AMBASSADORS.
WE HAVE SOME IDEAS ABOUT THAT.
I AM AT 1317 RIVER ROAD IN YEEE, SOUTH CAROLINA.
I JUST SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TODAY.
UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
I JUST SAW THAT YOU WERE PROMOTING, UH, BREAST HEALTH AND BREAST CANCER AWARENESS AND THE PINK RIBBONS.
AND I JUST PUT SOME NOTES TOGETHER.
UM, FROM THINGS I'VE DISCOVERED, MY AUNT RECENTLY PASSED AWAY FROM BREAST CANCER, AND I WISH I KNEW THEN WHAT I KNOW NOW.
UM, FOR DECADES, I BELIEVE THE PINK RIBBON HAS BEEN A SCAM.
UH, THE SUSAN G KOEN FOUNDATION IS BEHIND THE PINK RIBBON.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT, UM, THREE THINGS I WANNA SAY ABOUT THE COLOR PINK, THE CAUSES OF BREAST CANCER AND THE CURE.
IN 1982, THE EVOLUTION BEGAN WITH THE PINK RIBBON AND THE SUSAN G KOMEN FOUNDATION HAS RAISED MILLIONS, UH, FROM PEOPLE LIKE ME AND PROBABLY MANY IN THE ROOM FOR BREAST CANCER.
NOW, THE SUSAN G KOMEN FOUNDATION ALSO FUNDS PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND MANY DEMOCRATS, THEY'RE ONE OF THE MAJOR SPONSORS OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAJOR PROVIDERS OF ABORTION IN OUR COUNTRY.
AND ALSO PLANNED PARENTHOOD HAS, UM, HARVESTED LIVE ORGANS FROM ABORTED BABIES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.
I READ ONE CASE WHERE A LIVE BEATING HEART WAS TAKEN OUT OF AN ABORTED BABY, A LIVE BABY, AND SENT TO STANFORD UNIVERSITY FOR RESEARCH.
I WAS HORRIFIED, AND I'M SORRY, THIS IS HAPPENING NOW.
THE CAUSES FOR ABORTION NUMBER TWO, UM, I'M SORRY, THE CAUSES FOR BREAST CANCER ABORTION AND HORMONAL CONTRACEPTION HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO INCREASE YOUR RISK OF BREAST CANCER SIGNIFICANTLY.
SO ARE THESE SAME PEOPLE RAISING MONEY FROM US FUNDING SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY CAUSING THE PROBLEM? I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO REALLY DO SOME RESEARCH ON THIS BECAUSE AGAIN, I BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN A SCAM FOR DECADES.
UM, I'VE READ IVERMECTIN AND HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE, UH, BUT PARTIC, PARTICULARLY CHLORINE DIOXIDE ARE VERY EFFECTIVE IN CURING BREAST CANCER AND CURING CANCERS.
BUT I DON'T THINK BIG PHARMA AND THE MASSIVE MEDICAL COMMUNITY WANTS YOU TO KNOW THIS.
BUT I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT IVERMECTIN CHLORINE DIOXIDE AND MANY OTHER THERAPIES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE VERY AFFORDABLE, VERY EFFECTIVE, AND HAVE BEEN HIDDEN FROM US, UH, FOR A LONG TIME.
SO THE SOLUTION, I HOPE WE WILL EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT THE REAL REA REASON BEHIND THE PINK RIBBON.
UM, TALK ABOUT REAL CAUSES AND REAL CURES FOR BREAST CANCER.
AND THEN, UM, MAYBE WE CAN USE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE RIBBONS AND TRULY BE FREE FROM CANCER, FROM, UM, SCAMS AND FROM PROPAGANDA.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS MEG JAMES AND I AM PROUD TO CALL THE LOW COUNTRY MY HOME AS I'M A TRUE NATIVE OF THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
MY FAMILY ARRIVED HERE IN 1978 AND WHAT STARTED AS A PROJECT FOR A FRIEND FROM OHIO TURNED INTO A LIFELONG LOVE AFFAIR WITH THE ISLAND.
OUR NEIGHBORS WOULD APPROACH MY PARENTS ASKING THEM TO WORK ON THEIR PROJECTS, AND THEY MADE A COMMITMENT TO STAY UNTIL THE WORK RAN OUT.
NOW, 45 YEARS LATER, THEY'RE STILL ACTIVELY CONTRIBUTING TO THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE ISLAND AND ALL OVER THE LOW COUNTRY.
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I HAVE A SPECIAL CONNECTION TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND, HAVING BEEN ONE OF THE VERY FIRST CHILDREN BORN IN THE HILTON HEAD HOSPITAL.WHEN THE MATERNITY WARD OPENED, I PLAYED SPORTS AT THE ISLAND REC CENTER, GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL, PERFORMED IN OUR LOCAL THEATERS.
AND SO WHEN I GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE, I COULDN'T RESIST THE ALLURE OF RETURNING TO THIS UNIQUE PLACE THAT I LOVE SO DEARLY.
TODAY I SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE HILTON HEAD AREA HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, AN ORGANIZATION THAT REPRESENTS NOT ONLY HILTON AT ISLAND, BUT ALL OF BEAUFORT, HAMPTON, AND JASPER COUNTIES.
WE HAD MEMBERS PRESENT AT THE RECENT PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING ON FRIDAY, AND WE WANTED TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE TO THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER AMES TOWN STAFF, AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE DECISION, IN THE DECISION TO PAUSE THE PROPOSED FAR AND PARKING UPDATES TO THE TOWN'S L M O.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONCERNS RELATED TO ISLAND DEVELOPMENT ARE MULTIFACETED AND THAT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH WON'T SUFFICE.
THEREFORE, WE PROPOSE A WELL-ROUNDED AND COLLABORATIVE SOLUTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND AN OFFER TO SERVE AS A LIAISON BETWEEN COUNCIL STAFF AND OUR COMMUNITY OF EXPERTS, INCLUDING ARCHITECTS, BUILDERS, REALTORS, INSURANCE COMPANIES, PROPERTY MANAGERS, AND CONCERNED CITIZENS.
TOGETHER WE CAN CREATE A JOINT TASK FORCE TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS COMPREHENSIVELY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ALL ASPECTS OF THE ISSUE.
ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT THE CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF HILTON AT ISLAND REMAINS MINDFUL OF THE DIVERSE NEEDS AND PRIORITIES OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU DANIEL ANTHONY, PLEASE LET'S UP TO THAT DANIEL ANTHONY AFTERNOON.
DANIEL ANTHONY, PRESIDENT OF JONESVILLE PRESERVATION SOCIETY.
UM, MY COMMENTS ARE IN REFERENCE TO LAST FRIDAY'S P P C MEETING.
UH, IT APPEARS THAT NOBODY IS SATISFIED WITH THE PROPOSED FOUR A AMENDMENTS.
TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND PARKING THROUGH A BLANKET STATEMENT PERHAPS IS OVERREACHING.
DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES REQUIRE DIFFERENT RULES AND REGULATIONS.
THE OVERBUILDING OF COMMUNITIES AND, AND NEIGHBORHOODS HAS BECOME A BIG PROBLEM, SHOWS THE SHORT TERM RENTAL MARKET AND THE PROBLEMS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THESE TWO ITEMS CAN BE DEALT WITH AND SHOULD BE DEALT WITH.
PER COMMUNITY, PER NEIGHBORHOOD.
COMMUNITIES IN NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOT ONLY WITH THE SIZE AND FUTURE USE OF THE STRUCTURES, BUT ALSO WITH THE INPUT OF THE EXISTING MEMBERS OF THOSE PARTICULAR N NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS IS A VITAL STEP IN THE FUTURE OF WHAT THIS ISLAND IS TO BECOME.
WITHOUT THIS INSIGHT, RESIDENTS WILL BE SUBJECT TO SOMEONE ELSE'S VERSION OF WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM.
WOULD ANY OF YOU EXCEPT SOMEONE ELSE'S VERSION OF WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU? I THINK NOT ALL OF YOU WERE VOTED INTO OFFICE TO REPRESENT YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY.
YOUR CONS, CONSTITUENTS, THEIR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS SHOULD ALWAYS BE YOUR FIRST PRIORITY.
THIS IS A VERY DIVERSE ISLAND WITH MANY DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND WITHIN EACH, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN CULTURE, HISTORICAL VALUE, ECOLOGY, RACES, RELIGIONS, PROFESSIONS, AND FINANCIAL DISPOSITIONS.
SO HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO EACH WITHOUT DUPLICATING THE FAILURES OF THE PAST? NOT AN EASY TASK.
THIS WILL TAKE TIME, TIME THAT THESE VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES DO NOT HAVE.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THESE SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITIES NEED A MORATORIUM.
THIS IS A LEGAL AND PRUDENT WAY OF CONTROLLING DEVELOPMENT.
WHILE STAFF WORKS IN A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION WITH WITHOUT THE MORATORIUM, WE'LL BE SUBJECTED TO DEVELOPMENT AT THE CURRENT L M O STANDARDS.
THESE STANDARDS ARE WHY WE HAVE ALREADY LOST FOREVER SOME OF THE CHARACTER IN THE FOLLOWING AREAS.
BRADLEY CIRCLE, FOLLY FIELD, JONESVILLE ROAD, MITCHELLVILLE, BEAL, MARSHMAN, STONY, SOUTH FOREST BEACH, NORTH FOREST BEACH, ET CETERA.
THE LAST REGRET OF THE ALAMO WAS DONE TO ACHIEVE A TOWN ORIENTED GOAL, SPURRING THE ECONOMY WITHOUT THE FORESIGHT OF THE ILL EFFECTS OF THOSE CHANGES.
AND WITHOUT CONCERN FOR RESIDENTS LIVING IN THESE AREAS.
I IMPLORE YOU DO YOUR DUTY, PROTECT YOUR RESIDENTS.
AND REMEMBER, ONCE IT'S DESTROYED, IT'S COUNT FOREVER.
ALL THE APOLOGIES IN THE WORLD WILL MAKE IT COME BACK.
IMPOSE A MORATORIUM NOW BEFORE WE LOSE THE CHARACTER OF HILTON HEAD FOREVER.
NEXT, SKIP POLAND, PLEASE SKIP POLAND.
CAN I, UH, BE PUT LAST OUTTA COURTESY TO OTHERS IN THIS ROOM? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT YOU CAN CALL? THAT'S ALL I AM LAST, YES.
UH, SKIP HOAGLAND WINDMILL HARBOR AND WELCOME NATIONAL MEDIA.
WHEN YOU SAY YOU REVIEWED THE HILTON HEAD CHAMBERS FINANCIAL RECORDS AND THERE WAS NO FRAUD, LAST I CHECKED.
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BROKER, YOU'RE NOT A FORENSIC AUDITOR.HOW COULD YOU SAY IN GOOD FAITH SUCH AN ABSURD THING? WHEN EVERYBODY KNOWS IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND EXPERTISE TO DO A FORENSIC AUDIT? ARE YOU ACTUALLY SAYING YOU PERSONALLY SAW EXAMPLE, HOW MUCH THE CHAMBER SPENDS ON TRAVEL AND ENTERTAINMENT WHEN THEY DON'T EVEN REPORT THAT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? SHAME ON YOU FOR LYING AND COVERING UP FOR YOUR FRIEND CHAMBER MILES AND HIS ONGOING FINANCIAL SHENANIGANS.
ON THIS BASIS ALONE, TAXPAYERS SHOULD REJECT YOUR LEADERSHIP BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING NOTHING TO PROTECT US FROM SWINDLERS LIKE MILES AND HIS CHAMBER LAWYERS CONTINUING HIGHWAY ROBBERY YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT.
AND THE SAME GOES FOR THIS COUNCIL WHO PERSIST IN RUBBER STAMPING WHAT HAS BECOME AN OUTRIGHT LARCENY.
FURTHER SENIOR STAFF HAS BEEN CAUGHT AT ILLEGAL ACTS LIKE TOWN MANAGER ORLANDO'S CHAMBER MEMBERSHIP DRIVE, C P A TROYER FRAUDULENT FRAUDULENT BUDGETS AND YEAR END AUDITS AND LAWYER COLTRANE AND FINGER FRAUDULENT CHAMBER CONTRACTS, PLUS OVERCHARGING LEGAL FEES AS REPORTED BY THE ISLAND PACKET.
I'M HERE TO INFORM YOU, MR. PERRY, NOT MAYOR PERRY.
IT IS NO LONGER POSSIBLE FOR ME TO RECOGNIZE YOU, THIS COUNCIL OR TOWN MANAGEMENT STAFF AS LEGITIMATE AND LEGALLY FUNCTIONAL.
THEREFORE, I NOW TAKE MY FIGHT TO STOP THIS COUNCIL AND THE STAFF'S ONGOING CORRUPTION, FRAUD, TAX MISUSE, ILLEGAL TAX ISSUANCE, AND MANY STATE AND FEDERAL LAW VIOLATIONS DIRECTLY TO THE TAXPAYERS STARTING TODAY.
THIS TOWN GOVERNMENT DOES NOT EXIST FOR ME UNTIL ALAN PERRY IS REMOVED FOR LYING AND REPLACED, AND THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL STOPS ITS VOTES FOR ILLEGAL ISSUING AND USE OF MILLIONS OF OUR TAX FUNDS.
YOU ALL WORK FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND THIS TOWN HALL WAS PAID FOR AND OWNED BY THE TAXPAYERS.
YOU'VE ALL VIOLATED YOUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES, YOUR CAMPAIGN PROMISES, AND YOUR OATH OF OFFICE TO BE HONEST AND IMPROVE AND SPEND AND GUARD OUR TAX MONEY LIKE YOUR OWN MONEY.
I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 50 YEARS.
THE CHARLES FRAZIER VISION AND OUR WAY OF LIFE HAS BEEN SEVERELY DAMAGED FROM NOT HAVING ANY MASTER LAND PLAN IN PERPETUITY.
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE 50 YEARS AGO.
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO HILTON HEAD IS A LUDICROUS IDEA AT BEST.
SO WITH THAT, I ASK ALL TAXPAYERS TO JOIN MR. HOAGLAND, YOU WILL ADDRESS.
PLEASE DO NOT, YOU'LL ADDRESS THE DAAS.
YOU WILL ADDRESS THE DAAS, PLEASE.
YOU WILL ADDRESS THE BUT YOU BY, BY THE LAW.
YOU HAVE, I ASK ALL TAXPAYERS TO JOIN NEED TO ADDRESS THE DEMAND.
COUNSEL NOT MERELY ASK, DOES COUNCIL DISCONTINUE THEIR ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR AND THEIR NONT? MR. UH, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
YOU OBEY THE LAW AND I'LL RESPECT YOU AND I'LL ADDRESS YOU.
YOU'RE OUT ORDER AND YOU'RE BREAKING THE LAW AND YOU LIED, SIR.
AND YOU SHOULD BE REMOVED AS MAYOR.
YOU'RE NOT MEANT TO BE A MAYOR.
I I AM TRYING TO HOLD THE CLEAR HERE.
WELL, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DID.
IF YOU OBEY THE LAW, I'LL, I'M TRYING TO BE, I'LL PRESS YOU.
AND THAT'S, AND YOU HAVE HAD MORE THAN YOU'RE ENOUGH TIME.
YOU'RE IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
I'M ERIC MCCLELLAN, COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE 9 1 1 DISPATCH CENTER.
CRIME HAPPENS OFTEN, HOWEVER, CLOSURE TO THOSE CASES DOES.
TOO MANY ARE SOLVED WITH TIPS FROM THE PUBLIC THROUGH CRIME STOPPERS OF THE LOW COUNTRY.
THE PROGRAM RECEIVES AND DISSEMINATES CRIME TIPS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ALL WHILE ALLOWING THE TIPSTER TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS.
IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT ANY CRIME OR CASE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, YOU CAN SHARE INFORMATION WITHOUT SHARING YOUR IDENTITY.
YOU CAN EASILY SUBMIT AN ANONYMOUS TIP BY CALLING CRIME STOPPERS OF THE LOW COUNTRY AT 8 4 3 5 5 4 1 1 1 1 OR ONLINE@P3TIPS.COM.
TIPS THAT LEAD TO THE ARREST OF A SUSPECT OR RECOVERY OF STOLEN PROPERTY CAN RESULT IN THE CASH REWARD.
PLEASE HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT TAKE AND KEEP CRIMINALS OFF BEAUFORT COUNTY STREETS.
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ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.WE HAVE TWO ITEMS UNDER CONSENT AGENDA.
BOTH OF THESE ITEMS WERE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY ON FIRST READING CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE BUSINESS LICENSE ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
TO UPDATE THE CLASS SCHEDULE AS REQUIRED BY ACT
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1 76 OF TWO 2020 SOUTH CAROLINA BUSINESS LICENSE TAX STANDARDIZATION ACT SIX DASH ONE DASH 400 DASH FOUR 22ND AND FINAL READING, JOHN TROY, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.THIS WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY ON OCTOBER 3RD, 2021.
PLEASE TURN OFF THAT MICROPHONE CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF BILL THAT I AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF EASEMENTS AND CURING REAL ESTATE OWNED BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND SOUTH BY THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND PST, UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
CODE FIVE DASH 70 DASH 40 AND TWO DASH 70 DASH 20 MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND PROVIDING SEVERAL BILLING, AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
SECOND AND FINAL READING, PASSING ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2023.
IF ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE THESE CONSENT TO ASK QUESTIONS OR NEED MORE PERMISSION, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
BUREAUCRATIC GOVERNMENT, ANYBODY WISH TO REMOVE IT? BREAKING MANY LAWS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.