* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY. UH, I'LL EXTEND THAT. WELCOME AGAIN [1. CALL TO ORDER] TO EVERYONE WHO'S HERE THIS EVENING, AND TO THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING ON A, UH, A CHANNEL SOMEWHERE. THIS IS A COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING OF MONDAY, OCTOBER 9TH, 2023. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. SARAH, WOULD YOU TAKE THE ROLE, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER REETS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER TABER PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER LAWSON MARK LAWSON. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HOWARD. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BARTHOLOMEW. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON. HERE. VICE CHAIR MCKELLAN IS PRESENT. PRESENT. YOU HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS LARRY MCKELLAN. I'LL BE PRESIDING AT THIS EVENING'S SESSION IN THE ABSENCE OF THE CHAIRMAN. UH, WOULD YOU JOIN ME PLEASE? BY A RISING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE INVOCATION TO FOLLOW BY COUNCIL MEMBER CABERNET PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE CHAIR FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR RELIGIOUS STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. SO FIRST, PLEASE. UH, LET'S TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO PRAY FOR THOSE IN THE THROES OF WAR AND AGGRESSION. THANK YOU. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GATHER TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. MAY WE USE ONLY OUR BEST SKILLS AND JUDGMENT, KEEPING OURSELVES IMPARTIAL AND NEUTRAL AS WE CONSIDER THE MERITS AND PITFALLS OF EACH MATTER THAT IS PLACED BEFORE US. GUIDE US TO ALWAYS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR FELLOW CITIZENS. HELP US TO SERVE WITH HONOR. AMEN. THANK YOU. BE SEATED. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION [4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA] TO APPROVE THE AGENDA TONIGHT? SO MOVE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS. I'D LIKE TO, UH, HAVE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND IT FIRST. EXCUSE ME. I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. HE DIDN'T TELL YOU YET. WELL, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION. HAVE SECOND, BUT YOU CAN AMEND. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, TO ADD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO THOSE ALREADY ON THE AGENDA, THE NEW ITEM WOULD BE TO DISCUSS PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROL CAROLINA CODE SECTION 30, 40 70 A ONE, EMPLOYMENT, APPOINTMENT, COMPENSATION, PROMOTION, DEMOTION, DISCIPLINE OR RELEASE OF A PERSON REGULATED BY A PUBLIC BODY. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT? PLEASE. SO, MOVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. ON A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTION TO THAT AMENDMENT? HEARING NONE THE UM, AGENDA IS AMENDED. I'LL SEEK NOW, UH, APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED AGENDA. I HAVE A MOTION. SO MOVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ANY OBJECTION? HEARING NONE. THE NEW AGENDA HAS BEEN APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER FIVE [5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - August 21, 2023; August 24, 2023; August 28, 2023 1st meeting; August 28, 2023 2nd Meeting.] IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. AUGUST 21. AUGUST 24. AUGUST 28TH. FIRST MEETING. AUGUST 28TH, THE SECOND MEETING. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. THANK YOU. SECOND. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU, GERALD. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ANY OBJECTIONS? NO OBJECTIONS. THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED. ITEM NUMBER [6. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT] SIX IS THE ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT. MR. ROBINSON. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNSEL. FIRST I'LL START WITH A FEW, UH, A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS. UM, THIS MONTH, OCTOBER 18TH AND 19TH, THE SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT FOR COUNTY OFFICIALS IS HOLDING SOME CLASSES. UH, MYSELF AND A FEW ACAS WILL ALL WILL BE ATTENDING ON THE 18TH FOR SOME LEVEL ONE AND LEVEL TWO CLASSES. SHOULD BE, UH, SHOULD BE A GOOD EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR US. UM, ALSO TONIGHT I WANT TO, UH, INTRODUCE, UH, GINGER MARSHALL FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY, UH, EMS. SHE'S GONNA TALK FOR A FEW MINUTES WITH YOU ABOUT A, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY FIRST RESPONDER FOOD DRIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR PROVIDING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY. AS HE STATED, MY NAME IS GINGER MARSHALL AND I WORK WITH BUFORT COUNTY EMS. I'VE BEEN WITH THAT DEPARTMENT [00:05:01] FOR ABOUT 17 YEARS, AND I'VE WORKED WITH SOME REALLY WONDERFUL INDIVIDUALS PROVIDING SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. I'VE ALSO WORKED WITH A COUPLE OF AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE SERVICES, SHORT-TERM, ASSISTANCE TO FAMILIES IN NEED. WHAT WE'VE DISCOVERED IS THAT DURING THE CHRISTMAS TIME AND INTO THE NEW YEAR, A LOT OF THESE AGENCIES HAVE A SHORTFALL FOR FOOD DONATIONS TO KEEP THEIR FOOD MARKETS, THEIR FOOD PANTRY SHELF STOCKED. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY FIRST RESPONDERS IN THE AREA, THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND EMS, WE ARE CONDUCTING THEIR SECOND ANNUAL FOOD DRIVE. IT'S RUNNING FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF NOVEMBER. AND WE ARE GONNA BE PROVIDING, UM, SPLITTING THE FOOD THAT GETS DONATED BETWEEN HELP OF BEAUFORT AND BLUFF AND SELF-HELP. RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE HELPING APPROXIMATELY 8% OF THE RESIDENTS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY WHO HAVE A SHORTAGE OF FOOD IN THEIR HOUSE AND, UH, RECEIVE DATA FROM BLUFF AND SELF-HELP THAT CURRENTLY MONTHLY THEY'RE PROVIDING ABOUT 40,000 POUNDS WORTH OF FOOD. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED FOR ASSISTANCE. SO I JUST WANTED TO INFORM YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS REQUEST THAT IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TO YOUR RESIDENTS, TO YOUR AREAS. UH, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A SOCIAL MEDIA BLAST. THERE IS A BOX LOCATED UP BY THE ENTRANCE OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING THAT WE WILL BE COLLECTING THE FOOD. SO THANK YOU AGAIN AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. YOU ALSO HAVE BOXES AT FIRE STATIONS? YES, THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, BOXES LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AT VARIOUS, UM, LOCATIONS. THERE IS A FLYER THAT I PROVIDED TO CHERYL, UM, AND IT WILL BE OUT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WILL HAVE THE ADDRESSES FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. GINGER, JUST GIVE US THE DATES AGAIN. IT'S GOING ON NOW THROUGH NOVEMBER 30TH. UM, WE WILL COLLECT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, AS THE BOXES FILL UP, AND THEN IT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED IN DECEMBER BEFORE THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY. OKAY. THANKS VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR. THANKS SO MUCH. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OUT OUR FELLOW CITIZENS. UM, SO NOW I'D LIKE TO, UM, INTRODUCE, UM, A FEW FOLKS FOR RECOGNITION. UH, FIRST IS, UH, MILTON BOSWELL. MILTON WORKS FOR OUR ASSESSOR'S OFFICE. HE'S SERVED THE CITIZENS OF BUFORT COUNTY FOR 34 YEARS. NO, GEEZ. HEY, GOOD TO SEE YOU. SO MILTON IS THE, UM, DEPUTY COUNTY ASSESSOR. HE, UM, IS OVER APPRAISALS AND THIS FANCY COMPUTER SYSTEM, UH, COMPUTER ASSISTED MASS APPRAISAL SOFTWARE. UM, HE'S WON SOME AWARDS FOR MANAGEMENT OF THIS SOFTWARE. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UH, JOB THAT MILTON DOES FOR US. AS THE, UH, DEPUTY COUNTER COUNTY ASSESSOR, HE ASSISTS THE COUNTY ASSESSOR IN DEVELOPING STRATEGIC MANAGEMENT PLANS, ACCOMPLISHING, ACCOMPLISHING DEPARTMENTAL GOALS, MANAGING BEAUFORT COUNTY'S 134,000 REAL PROPERTY REAL PROPERTY ACCOUNTS. THAT'S A BIG JOB. UM, AS, AS THE, UH, DEPUTY ASSESSOR, UH, HE'S OVER PROPERTY, UH, PROPERTY VALUATIONS, HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ASSISTING OVERSIGHT OF THE ANNUAL REAL PROPERTY ASSESSMENTS AND THE 2023 COUNTYWIDE REASSESSMENT PROCESS. UM, UH, MILTON AND HIS APPRAISAL TEAMS UTILIZE THAT FANCY STATISTICAL SOFTWARE PROGRAM WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE VALUING ALL WHEEL PROPERTY ACCOUNTS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, UH, WHICH CURRENTLY HAVE A TOTAL VALUE OF OVER $74 BILLION. SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT MILTON. THE, UH, OF COURSE, UH, I I MENTIONED WAS RECOGNIZED IN 2010, UM, FOR THE, UM, I HAVE TO LOOK BACK TO THAT, UM, UM, TO THE COMPUTER ASSISTED MASS APPRAISAL SOFTWARE PROGRAM AS THE USER OF THE YEAR. UM, AND HE LIKES TO SING KARAOKE ONLY ON SATURDAY NIGHTS. WELL, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. I JUST WANTED TO SAY WHAT IT'S A, WHAT A PRIVILEGE IT HAS BEEN TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR CLOSE TO 35 YEARS. I'LL HAVE MY 35 YEAR ANNIVERSARY ON, UH, JANUARY THE NINTH. AND, BUT I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, SEVERAL MORE YEARS SERVING CITIZENS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR MIL. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT, UH, WHAT YEAR DID YOU START? WHAT YEAR WAS THAT, THAT YOU STARTED IN 89? 1989? YES, SIR. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. WOW. IMAGINE THAT. CAN'T IMAGINE THAT. ALL RIGHT, NOW IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE THE HONORABLE JUDGE HEATHER GALVIN. HEATHER. UM, HEATHER IS OUR, UH, PROBATE COURT JUDGE, OR ONE OF OUR PROBATE COURT JUDGES. UM, HEATHER HAS A, A LONG CAREER SERVING, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY. SHE STARTED AS AN ASSISTANT SOLICITOR IN 2006. [00:10:01] A PART-TIME STAFF ATTORNEY FOR PROBATE COURT HAS BEEN AN ASSOCIATE PROBATE JUDGE. UM, AND, UM, BECAME OUR PROBATE JUDGE, UH, THIS JANUARY IN TWO IN, UH, 2023. AMONG HER RESPONSE OR WHAT AMONG HER RESPONSIBILITIES, ADMINISTRATION OF, UH, OF THE DEPARTMENT ORGANIZATION CONDUCTING HEARINGS INVOLVING MATTERS OF ESTATES, TRUST, GUARDIANSHIPS, CONSERVATORYS, POWERS OF ATTORNEY, UH, COMMITMENTS OF MENTALLY ILL AND CHEMICALLY DEPENDENT INDIVIDUALS, AS WELL AS ISSUE AND PROCESS MARRIAGE LICENSES. LOTS OF WORK TO DO, HEATHER AND HER SPARE TIME VOLUNTEERS ON SUNDAYS BEFORE CHURCH, UH, TO FEED REGISTERED FERAL CAT COLONIES AND BLUFFED. HEATHER. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE RECOGNITION. I APPRECIATE IT ALL. UM, I GIVE THANKS TO GOD AND TO THE VOTERS FOR PUTTING THEIR TRUST IN ME. I ALSO APPRECIATE COUNTY COUNCIL SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR KINDNESS, COMPASSION, AND GUIDANCE, AS WELL AS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LEADERSHIP TEAM WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN HELPFUL, NICE AND KIND. AND I WOULDN'T BE ANYWHERE WITHOUT MY STAFF, SOME OF WHOM ARE IN THE BACK, AND I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL TO THEM AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, ONE MORE EMPLOYEE TO RECOGNIZE THIS EVENING SHE COULD NOT BE WITH US. THIS IS, UH, LA TESSA CRAWFORD. UM, LA TESSA HAS BEEN WITH, UH, RECORDS MANAGEMENT FOR FOUR YEARS. LA TESSA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PREPARING DOCUMENTS OR SCANNING AND INDEXING DOCUMENTS. SHE INCURS ENSURES QUALITY CONTROL BY INSPECTING DOCUMENTS AFTER THEY'VE BEEN SCANNED, AND THEN INDEXES THEM INTO AN APPLICATION EXTENDER SYSTEM, ANOTHER FANCY SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT WE USE TO GET OUR JOBS DONE. IN ADDITION, LA TESSA IS KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT PROPER STORAGE, HANDLING AND INVENTORY OF RECORDS AND FULFILLS RECORDS, JOB REQUESTS ACCORDINGLY. UM, SHE OCCASIONALLY ASSISTS AS THE COURIER AND METERING AND DELIVERING MAIL TO VARIOUS COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, WHICH IS ANOTHER BIG JOB. UM, SO, UM, UH, LA TESSA IS ALSO AN AVID BOWLER, SO SHE MIGHT VISIT YOU. I'M NOT SURE . UM, SO ALTHOUGH SHE'S NOT HERE, LET'S GIVE LA TESSA A ROUND OF APPLAUSE AND SAY THANK YOU FOR HER SERVICE. THANK YOU MUCH SO, SO MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. UM, WE'RE NOW WITH ITEM NUMBER [7. PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING BULLYING PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH - Council Member Anna Maria Tabernik] SEVEN, WHICH IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING BULLYING PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH, UH, THAT WILL BE MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER ANNAMARIA KAEPERNICK. UM, THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE RECIPIENTS HERE. YES. COME ON UP HERE. WE'LL JUST TURN THE MIC. YOU KNOW, I'M A LONG-TERM EDUCATOR, SO ALL MY LIFE I DEALT WITH BULLYING WITH CHILDREN. SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AND ALL OF YOU. THE PROCLAMATION READS, WHEREAS BULLYING IS A PERVASIVE ISSUE THAT AFFECTS THE WELLBEING AND DEVELOPMENT OF OUR STUDENTS LEADING TO NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES SUCH AS DIMINISHED SELF-ESTEEM, ACADEMIC DECLINE, EMOTIONAL DISTRESS. AND WHEREAS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE ROTARY CLUB OF THE LOW COUNTRY AND THE BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL, RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF FOSTERING SAFE AND NURTURING LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS THAT PROMOTE KINDNESS AND RESPECT AMONG OUR STUDENTS. AND WHEREAS OCTOBER HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL BULLYING PREVENTION MONTH, WHICH REALLY SHOULD BE EVERY MONTH, UM, PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION TO UNITE IN RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT BULLYING PREVENTION, AND EMPOWERING INDIVIDUALS TO TAKE A STAND AGAINST THESE HARMFUL BEHAVIORS. AND WHEREAS IT IS ESSENTIAL TO COLLABORATE WITH ORGANIZATIONS COMMITTED TO THE WELFARE OF OUR COMMUNITY, SUCH AS THE ROTARY CLUB OF THE LOW COUNTRY, TO COMBINE EFFORTS AND RESOURCES IN CREATING A COMPREHENSIVE AND IMPACTFUL BULLYING PREVENTION CAMPAIGN. AND WHEREAS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS DEMONSTRATED DEDICATION TO ADDRESSING BULLYING THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF PROACTIVE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS, EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVES, AND SUPPORTIVE PROGRAMS, AIMED AT FOSTERING A CULTURE OF KINDNESS, RESPECT, AND COMPASSION WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS. AND WHEREAS SINCE WE'RE ALMOST DONE SINCE 2012, THE ROTARY CLUB OF THE LOW COUNTRY AND THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE SUCCESSFULLY COLLABORATED TO COMBAT BULLYING BY ENGAGING SIXTH GRADERS IN A BULLYING PREVENTION EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM. AND WHEREAS OVER 7,082 SIXTH GRADERS HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THIS, THIS EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM TO DATE. AND IN ADDITION TO THE PROGRAM, A SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING APP WAS DEVELOPED TO FACILITATE EDUCATION, REPORT [00:15:01] BULLYING, AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ADVOCATING FOR YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORTING INITIATIVES THAT PROMOTE POSITIVE CHANGE. NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. BEAVER COUNTY COUNCIL JOINS ADVOCATES AND SUPPORT SERVICE PROGRAMS IN THE BELIEF THAT ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS MUST BE PART OF THE SOLUTION TO END BULLYING. ALONG WITH THE ROTARY CLUB OF THE LOW COUNTRY AND BEAVER COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE PROCLAIM OCTOBER AS BULLYING PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH DATED THIS NINTH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2023 BY JOSEPH PASSMAN, OUR COUNCIL CHAIR. SO COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND SAY A FEW WORDS. SURE, SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD EVENING. I'M AL VEDA GRAHAM, I'M A STUDENT SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR. I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. UM, WE DO THE WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT, LIKE YOU SAID, IT DOESN'T JUST STOP IN OCTOBER TO COMBAT BULLYING, BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTFUL THINGS THAT WE DO IS MS. FESS AND HER STUDENTS AT BUFORD HIGH BRINGING AWARENESS TO WHAT'S GOING ON TO OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS. AND SHE'S HERE NOW AND SHE HAS ONE OF HER STUDENTS, AND THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM THAT THEY PUT IN PLACE. AGAIN, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COME ON UP AND TALK. HI, MY NAME IS LORRAINE FEST AND I'M THE THEATER TEACHER AT BEAUFORT HIGH SCHOOL. AND WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN PERFORMING FOR 11 YEARS. IT ALL STARTED WITH, UM, MY SON BEING BULLIED WHEN HE WAS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND I MADE A PROMISE TO MYSELF AND TO MY KIDS, MY STUDENTS, THAT, UM, I WOULD NOT STOP UNTIL IT STOPPED. AND, YOU KNOW, BEING IN THE WORLD THAT WE ARE IN TODAY, IT PROBABLY WILL NEVER STOP. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN GIVE THE KIDS WHAT THEY NEED TO FIGHT IT, TO STAND UP FOR IT. I CAN GIVE THEM A VOICE AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONE AND THEY'RE NOT. SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 11 YEARS. WE'RE ACTUALLY IN REHEARSALS NOW TO GET READY FOR THE PRODUCTION, AND IT WILL BE OCTOBER 24TH AND 25TH, UM, WHERE WE PERFORM FOR THE SCHOOLS. AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO PERFORM IN AN EVENING SHOW TO WHERE WE CAN START EDUCATING PARENTS BECAUSE PARENTS DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. AND SOMETIMES THE KIDS ARE TOO AFRAID TO GO TALK TO THEIR PARENTS. SO WE'RE, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A WHILE, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE AN EVENING SHOW, PROBABLY STARTING IN JANUARY, WHERE WE'RE GONNA START, UM, REACHING OUT AND EDUCATING OUR PARENTS TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. AND I'M SO GRATEFUL AND HONORED FOR THIS PROCLAMATION, BUT BEAUFORT HIGHWAY THEATER DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT REALLY STARTED IT. AND OUR PLAY IS CALLED, WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING. AND THAT'S WHY THE APP IS NAMED AFTER THAT. SO THIS IS HANNAH AND SHE'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN REHEARSING. HI, I AM HANNAH. I'M IN 11TH GRADE AND I'M A PART OF THE BULLY SHOW. THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR DOING IT. SO I'M PROBABLY NOT THE MOST EDUCATED OF PEOPLE ABOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS, . BUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN REHEARSALS IS, UM, WE'VE BEEN GOING OVER TWO OF OUR BIGGEST SCENES CALLED Y AND, AND EVERYTHING NOW Y IS ONE OF OUR MOST HEART WRENCHING SCENES, AND IT DOES DEAL WITH SOME OF THE MORE SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS OF BULLYING. WE HAVE KIDS, MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS AND ELEMENTARY WHO WILL COME TO THE SHOW AND SEE WHY. AND WE WILL SEE TEARS IN THE AUDIENCE. 'CAUSE THESE KIDS ARE FEELING WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PORTRAY ON STAGE, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY SEE THAT. AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN REHEARSALS. BUT, UM, I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TO BE A PART OF SUCH A LONG STANDING AND IMPORTANT SHOW THAT'S GONNA HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A NICE PHOTO TOGETHER. THANK YOU. GET MY ON . THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WOULD YOU SEND AN INVITATION TO US SO WE KNOW WHEN THAT IS? OH YEAH. ABSOLUTE. WE WILL. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. AND THANK YOU. AND IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO COME WHEN WE PERFORM FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO SEE THEIR REACTION. YES. UM, WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO BE THERE DURING OUR DAY SHOWS AS WELL. THANK YOU. IT WOULD BE GREAT HONOR. I USED TO BE A MIDDLE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL. OH, YES MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, IS, IS THIS ONE BE RECORDED? UM, YES. YES. SO WE CAN RECORD IT? YES. YES. NORMALLY THAT'S ONE OF THE, AND THE PLANNING PROCESS, I USUALLY FORGET TO BRING A CAMERAMAN, BUT WE'RE PLANNING FOR IT THIS YEAR TO HAVE A CAMERAMAN THERE SO WE CAN HAVE THINGS RECORDED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I, UM, WANNA CONGRATULATE YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING THERE. I WAS A TEACHER IN NEW YORK CITY BACK IN THE LATE SIXTIES, AND BULLYING WAS PRESENT THERE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WE SPOKE TO ABOUT IT CONSIDERED TO BE A BENIGN RITE OF PASSAGE. AND I'M NOT SO SURE THAT ANYTHING'S CHANGED IN THAT REGARD. SO I CONGRATULATE YOU FOR STICKING TO IT AND PUTTING TOGETHER THE, THE THEATRICAL PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE, BECAUSE ALL WE EVER DID WAS TALK ABOUT IT AND NEVER REALLY SOLVED [00:20:01] THE PROBLEM. BUT I THINK YOU MAY BE ON THE WAY TO DOING THAT. SO NICE WORK, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THE PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS TO GO ON WITH WHAT YOU SAID THAT, THAT I REALLY FIGHT FOR IS I'M INVESTED. I'M A TEACHER, WHICH OUR KIDS, I'M NOT SOMEONE THAT THEY WILL PAY, YOU KNOW, MONEY TO, TO COME IN AND DO A LITTLE SPEECH AND WALK AWAY. RIGHT. LIKE, I'M INVESTED IN THE PROGRAM AND INVESTED IN OUR KIDS. BE FOR TIME. AND YOU SEE IT EVERY DAY. I DO. I KNOW. . OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, UH, WE'RE [8. CITIZEN COMMENT] ON, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS A CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. WE HAVE TWO OF THOSE HERE IN COUNSEL. THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, UH, PEOPLE ARE INVITED TO SPEAK ABOUT, UH, MATTERS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA. AND THE ONE AT THE END OF OUR MEETING, UH, PEOPLE ARE INVITED TO SPEAK ABOUT ANY TOPIC THAT THEY WISH TO ADDRESS. THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT, THERE ARE TWO FOR THE FIRST SESSION, AND THEY WILL BE SPEAKING FOR A PERIOD OF ABOUT THREE MINUTES. UM, ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT IN YOUR PRESENTATION. YOU'LL HEAR A BELL. UH, AT THE END OF THOSE 30 SECONDS, YOU'LL HEAR SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS LIKE BIG BEN IN LONDON. , DON'T BE ALARMED. IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO STOP. IT JUST MEANS YOU HAVE TO WRAP IT UP FOR US SO WE CAN MOVE ON. SO, UH, COMING FORWARD, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. ROBERT NEW TO COME FORWARD. HE'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSING ITEM NUMBER 11 ON THE AGENDA, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH A THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING, UM, FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY IDENTIFIED AS 34 ULMA ROAD. MR. NEW, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE. THE OBVIOUS, UH, THIS MULTIMILLION DOLLAR LAND PURCHASE DEAL DOES NOT PASS THE SMELL TEST NOT BY A COUNTRY MILE. THE FUNNIEST PART OF THIS DEAL IS THE SPECIAL DISCOUNT OFFERED IF YOU ONLY DO IT NOW, LIKE A CAR SALESMAN, THE PRIOR SELLER HAD THE PROPERTY ON THE MARKET FOR YEARS AND COULD NOT SELL IT. WITH COMMERCIAL INTEREST RATES SKYROCKETING, THIS LAND WOULD BE EVEN HARDER TO SELL TODAY. LIKE PINE ISLAND, THIS HAS THE OBVIOUS FEEL OF A BACK ROAD DEAL, MAYBE A PREARRANGED FLIP, A $1.1 MILLION PROFIT FOR A NINE WEEK FLIP. YOU GO BACK TO MAKE SOMEBODY VERY, VERY RICH FOR A SEVEN FIGURE REAL ESTATE DEAL. STANDARD BUSINESS PROCEDURE IS TO GET MULTIPLE INDEPENDENT APPRAISALS, USUALLY THREE FULLY INDEPENDENT APPRAISALS. MY BUSINESSES DO THAT. FOR $10,000 OR SO, YOU PROTECT A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PURCHASE. YOUR FIDUCIARIES ELECTED TO AN EVEN HIGHER STANDARD PROTECTING OUR PRECIOUS TAXPAYER DOLLARS. I UNDERSTAND THE SECOND APPRAISAL IS STILL SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE FIRST APPRAISAL RAISING EVEN MORE QUESTIONS. A CONTROVERSIAL PURCHASE OF THIS NATURE NEEDS A MUCH MORE THOROUGH VETTING. OH, AND I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THERE'S THIS HUGE CELL PHONE TOWER IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS LAND LEASED THROUGH 2046. WOULD YOU BUILD YOUR HOUSE THERE? BALL FIELDS? REALLY? IT WOULD NOT BE A BALLPARK, BUT WITH ALL THOSE CELL PHONE TOWERS BLUE IN THE DARK PARK, FOR THOSE WHO RUN ON TRANSPARENCY, WHY IS THE ATTORNEY BLOCKING THE POST AND CORY REQUEST REGARDING THIS? WHY HAS SHE MADE THIS THE CRITICAL MISSION TO JAM THIS PROPOSAL THROUGH AS FAST AS POSSIBLE? THIS IS A MESS. SLEAZY DEALS FOR GIRLFRIENDS, BLANKETS, LAY GROUND EQUIPMENT COMING, CREDIT CARD SCANDALS, COUNTY TREASURER. NOW SEALING THE OPTICS OF THIS DEAL WOULD BE THE ICING ON THE CAKE. ANOTHER GUARANTEED SCANDAL. WHEN DOES THIS STOP? HOW ABOUT TONIGHT? TAKE THE FIRST BABY STEP TO RESTORE TRUST IN BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL. A UNANIMOUS VOTE REJECTING THIS WILL BE A POWERFUL MESSAGE THAT THE NOTORIOUS BACKROOM DEALING DAYS WILL FINALLY END. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. NEW, UH, THE, UH, NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. ROBERTS VOX. MR. VOX, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I, UH, DIDN'T KNOW THAT I WAS INVOLVED IN THE BACKROOM DEAL. I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR FOUR YEARS. UH, NOT NINE WEEKS. YOU ALL CAME TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY AND ASKED US TO PASS A REFERENDUM FOR BUYING OPEN SPACE. AND WE AGREED TO IT. SOME OF US WORKED ON IT TO PASS THE REFERENDUMS MULTIPLE TIMES. THEN YOU CAME TO US AND ASKED US TO SPEND A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS ON BUYING DENSITY RIGHTS [00:25:01] AND, AND SLOWING DEVELOPMENT AND, AND THAT TYPE OF THING. AND WE ALL, MOST OF US WORKED ON IT AND AGREED TO IT AND PASSED IT. NOW WE'RE COMING TO YOU AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO USE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS THAT WE VOTED TO STOP THIS DEVELOPMENT AND STOP THE DENSITY. I CAN TELL YOU REPRESENTED, UM, I'VE PRACTICED ON THE COUNTY FOR 53, 4 YEARS. AND I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE A BACKUP CONTRACT TO SELL THIS PROPERTY TO A NATIONAL DEVELOPER. WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR 38 39 HOUSES. UH, THEY CAN TURN IT INTO THE PROFIT. THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED NOT TO DO THAT. HE AGREED TO SELL IT TO THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY HAD IT APPRAISED. THE COUNTY CAME BACK TO US AND SAID, LISTEN, WE WANNA BUY IT, BUT WE WANNA BUY IT THROUGH A CERTAIN FUND AND WE DON'T HAVE IT. $2.5 MILLION IN THE FUND. AND SO AFTER DISCUSSION, THE CLIENT SAID, FINE, WE'LL DO THAT. BUT YOU ALL AGREED TO TO DO IT. SO ON A TIMELINE THAT WE WOULD CLOSE IT IN IN OCTOBER, AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY'S HAD IT APPRAISED THE SECOND TIME. AND THIS APPRAISAL COMES IN THIS, AND THIS APPRAISER APPRAISES THE PROPERTIES FOR OPEN LAND PURCHASES. AS I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME SPECIAL LIST AND THAT APPRAISAL CAME IN. IT'S STILL MORE THAN WHAT IT, THE PURCHASE PRICE IS. ALL WE ASK YOU TO DO IS MAKE A DECISION AND THE DECISION GOES FAR REACHING BEYOND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. IF YOU ALL WANT US AS CITIZENS TO CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR THE BUYING LAND, THEN WHY ARE WE GOING TO INSTANTLY BUILD ANOTHER 40 HOUSES ON A ROAD THAT'S ALREADY OVERBURDENED AND OVERBURDENED THE COMMUNITY WHEN THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT IT AND HAS ASKED YOU TO STOP DOING IT. THAT'S ALL WE'VE ASKED YOU TO DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MS. DEVA. THAT IS THE, UM, END OF THE CITIZEN COMMENTS FIRST PORTION. WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO [9. LIASION AND COMMITTEE REPORTS] ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS. ARE THERE ANY LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS FROM ANY OF THE MEMBERS? MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. HOWARD? UH, I HAVE A REPORT FROM THE HOSPITAL. THEY HAVE THEIR FINANCE MEETING IN THEIR REGULAR MEETING, THE 25TH. UH, UM, THEY, THEY ARE DOING WELL IN THE DEPARTMENT OF OUTPATIENT. THEY'VE SEEN A 11% INCREASE IN NUMBER OF OUTPATIENTS. UH, THEY ALSO WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD TO US SOME NOMINATIONS FOR THEIR BOARD. PROBABLY THREE CANDIDATES THEY'LL HAVE READY FOR US SOON TO CONSIDER. THE PHARMACY IS SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WITH PATIENT'S EDUCATION ON VARIOUS DRUGS, ESPECIALLY ANTIBIOTICS. AND, UM, THEY, AS WE HEARD IN COMMUNITY SERVICES ARE WORKING ON WORKFORCE HOUSING TOO. JUST LIKE WE HEARD THE TALK FROM THE SURGE OTHER GROUP OF 71 UNITS AT THE IN OKES, WHAT THEY'RE HOPING TO DO WITH THE CITY OF HARVILLE AND NORTH OF THE BROAD, THEY WERE STILL WORKING WITH, UH, THE PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY OWNS. THEY HAD A, A GREAT, NOT A RIBBON CUTTING, BUT A WALL BREAKING FOR THE NEW SURGERY SECTION, WHICH, UH, OUR, THEY RECEIVED $17.9 MILLION OF FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY. AND, UH, SENATOR GRAHAM SPOKE AT THAT EVENT. AND THE LEARNING CENTER WILL BE, UH, IS STILL PROGRESSING, WHICH WILL BE PUT, UH, AT, AT THE MAIN CAMPUS HERE NORTH OF ABROAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND ANYONE ELSE WITH A REPORT THAT, SO I ATTENDED THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. AND FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE YOU TO KNOW SAU ELEMENTARY HAS EARNED A NATIONAL BLUE RIBBON AWARD, ONE OF 353 SCHOOLS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. IT'S QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT. AND WE MIGHT WANNA HONOR THEIR PRINCIPAL, MRS. PRENDER AND ALSO THEY HAVE TEACHER OF THE YEAR. HER NAME'S APRIL BRYANT FROM S ELEMENTARY. THEY WERE HONORED AT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. UM, WE HEARD UPDATES ON THE BUILDING PROJECTS AS THEY'RE USING FUNDS FROM THE LAST REFERENDUM. AND WE HEARD AN UPDATE ON THEIR FINANCIALS. THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BORROW FUNDS TO COVER THEIR EXPENSES WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR DECEMBER TAX MONEY TO COME IN. THERE WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION ON CAREER AND TECH EDUCATION SERVING AS A PIPELINE FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE AREA. AND THEN THEY RETURNED SIX BOOKS BACK TO THE LIBRARY SHELVES OF THE 97 THAT WERE UNDER REVIEW. THEY HAVE 23 LEFT TO REVIEW. IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS. AND I'D LIKE TO REPORT FROM LATZ LOWCOUNTRY AREA TRANSPORTATION STUDY. JARED COULD GIVE THIS ONE SINCE HE'S ALWAYS AN HONORED SPEAKER THERE. BUT I ATTENDED IN, UH, ALLISON AND I ATTENDED IN JOE'S ABSENCE. I FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT S-E-D-O-T REPRESENTATIVES PROVIDED EXTENSIVE INFORMATION ON I 95 UPDATE. THEY CALL [00:30:01] IT FIX THE DRIVE FROM SAVANNAH RIVER TO US 2 78. OKAY. AND THE US 17 WIDENING, THEY ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN ON ABOUT $815 MILLION IN TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS FROM 2023 TO 2028. AND THEY ALSO APPROVED THAT EACH, UM, GOVERNMENT ENTITY WILL NOW HAVE A VOTING MEMBER FROM THEIR TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ON THE BOARD, ON THEIR TECHNICAL COMMITTEE. THEY SHARED 20 20, 20 24 HIGHWAY SAFETY PERFORMANCE, WHICH WAS INTERESTING. AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUY AN ADA VEHICLE TO SERVE THE PROGRAM FOR EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE. AND THAT OUR OWN MR. FLIS GAVE, UH, A SUMMATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COUNTY WITH FUNDING AND PROJECT PROGRESS. SO IT WAS VERY INTERESTING. ANYONE ELSE? UH, UH, TAB, IF YOU WANNA FOLLOW UP WITH RECOGNITION FOR THOSE ACHIEVEMENTS, THE, UH, CLERK, THE COUNCIL STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO GET WITH YOU AND DECIDE HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. AND THEN WE CAN SCHEDULE IT FOR A COUNCIL MEETING. THEY'RE SPECIALISTS IN RECOGNIZING. YEAH, I GOT THAT PART . OKAY. AND THERE'S ONE OTHER THING, MR. MCKELLAN, IF I MIGHT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE AUDIENCE KNOWS. WE HELD OUR FIRST CHAT WITH COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 28TH AT THE BLUFFTON LIBRARY. I THOUGHT IT WENT REALLY WELL. YEAH, PEOPLE CAME, THEY EXPRESSED THEIR SUGGESTIONS, THEIR THOUGHTS. MR. BROWN WAS THERE. I SEE HIM SHAKING HIS HEAD. AND THE NEXT ONE IS OCTOBER 24TH, RIGHT HERE AT FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM SO I HOPE WE GET A GOOD ATTENDANCE THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER [10. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA] 10, THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE I SEEK A MOTION APPROVING THAT IN SUMMARY FASHION, UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT AWARD, UH, TO SPANISH MOSS TRAIL PORT ROYAL EXTENSION TO FIRST CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT. SECOND IS APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT AWARD TO BEAUFORT CONSTRUCTION, UH, PORT ROYAL PUBLIC LIBRARY CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. AND THE THIRD IS APPROVAL OF A PURCHASE OF A 2023 PETERBILT 5 4 7 VACUUM TRUCK, WHICH IS RIGHT UP TABS ALLEY. DO YOU HAVE THE PICTURE? YES, IT'S, WE HAVE THE PICTURE TO PUT UP THERE. DRIVE IT THOUGH. I JUST WANTED HER TO MENTION THAT IN CASE ANYONE WAS INTERESTED IN THAT PICTURE. . OKAY. IT'S SO I'LL BE, I'LL BE SEEKING A MOTION, UH, SEEKING APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT. THANK YOU AGENDA. SECOND THAT MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU MR. CUNNINGHAM. ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO. HEARING NONE. IS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO OBJECTIONS. ITEM NUMBER 10, APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA IS PASSED. WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER [11. THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY IDENTIFIED AS 34 ULMER ROAD] 11 AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IT IS. THIRD, READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE DOCUMENTS AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY IDENTIFIED AS 34 ALMA ROAD. UH, BEFORE I SEEK A MOTION ON THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS. UH, WE HAVE RECENTLY PASSED AN ORDINANCE CREATING A GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE CHARGED WITH EVALUATING LAND PURCHASES WHEREIN BUFORT COUNTY CONTEMPLATES BEING A PRINCIPLE OR A PARTNER IN WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A CONSERVATION EFFORT THAT WILL ASSIST IN SMART GROWTH MANAGEMENT. PRESENTLY, IT IS THE ONLY SUCH EFFORT ONGOING IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE HERE TONIGHT THAT THE MATTER PRESENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION BE REFERRED TO THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE FOR AN EVALUATION OF THE SUITABILITY OF PURCHASING 34 ULMA ROAD AND THE USES POSSIBLE IF BUFORT COUNTY WOULD BECOME A FULL OR COLLABORATING STEWARD OF THAT LAND. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PROSPECTIVE SELLER APPLY TO THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE FOR THE LAND TO BE EVALUATED. ACCORDING TO THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED FOR PURCHASE OF LAND WITHIN THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAM. IT MAKES NO MATTER TO ME WHETHER WE USE GREEN SPACE MONEY OR NOT. MY GOAL IS TO HAVE THE SELLER OF THE LAND MAKE APPLICATION TO THE COMMITTEE SO THEY CAN USE THE EVALUATION METHODS THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED TO DECIDE WHETHER THE LAND IS SUITABLE FOR PURCHASE AND WHAT THE LAND CAN BE USED FOR. SO I'M ASKING YOU TONIGHT, MEMBERS OF THIS DELIBERATIVE BODY TO DEFER THIRD READING UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ANSWERED WITH REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR PURCHASE. AS I BELIEVE THERE ARE STILL SOME OUTSTANDING MATTERS AND QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED BEFORE WE ATTEMPT TO PROCEED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A VERY CLEAR PICTURE OF THE HELP THAT CAN BE PROVIDED BY THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE. I HAVE ASKED THE CHAIRMAN OF GREEN SPACE, MR. MIKE MCSHANE, TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE CAN PROVIDE IN EVALUATING THIS LAND FOR A PRACTICAL PURPOSE OR USE IF PURCHASED A CURRENT VALUE AND REALISTIC PURCHASE PRICE AND THE POSSIBLE USES OF THE LAND IN A SMART GROWTH [00:35:01] MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, INCLUDING CONSERVATION. MR. MCSHANE, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD AND TAKE JUST A FEW MOMENTS TO LET US KNOW WHAT THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE QUALIFYING DATA IS AND HOW THIS MAY FIT INTO YOUR, UM, PROFILE OF EVALUATION FOR LAND THAT WILL BE PURCHASED BY THE COUNTY. GOOD EVENING COUNSEL. UH, MY NAME IS MAYOR MCSHANE. FOR THE RECORD, I'M A RESIDENT OF CHARLESTON COUNTY, BUT I DO HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SERVING AS YOUR CHAIRMAN OF YOUR GREEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND AT THE REQUEST OF THE CHAIRMAN, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, COULD GREEN SPACE PLAY A ROLE AS A RESOURCE IN THIS MM-HMM. . AND THE ANSWER, WHAT I THINK THAT I'VE OFFERED AND WAS, UH, WITH ONE TWEAK TO MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU EARLIER IS THE COUNTY CAN BE THE APPLICANT TO GREEN SPACE FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THIS PROPERTY. WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT YOU AFFIRMED UNDER THIRD READING ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, I BELIEVE. AND WE WILL, UH, APPLICATIONS ARE NOW, UH, THE PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS IS UNDERGOING EVALUATION. NOW APPLICATIONS ARE ACCEPTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER. SO THEY GOT A COUPLE WEEKS THAT IT, THE COUNTY COULD PUT AN APPLICATION IN FOR REVIEW BY THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE, WHICH THEN WOULD BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD IN THAT IT CAN BE AN EVALUATION ON WHAT FUNDING MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, EITHER WITHIN GREEN SPACE ITSELF OR OTHER FUNDING THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE OUTSIDE GREEN SPACE ON THAT. WOULD THERE, MR. CHAIRMAN? NO, GO AHEAD. WOULD THERE BE A CONSERVATION APPRAISAL DONE? I BELIEVE THAT WAS DISCUSSED. THAT THAT HADN'T HAPPENED YET. YEAH, SO I HAVE NOT SEEN ALL OF THE DATA, BUT I UNDERSTAND ANOTHER APPRAISAL WAS DONE. THAT'S SOMETHING CERTAINLY THAT COULD BE SUBMITTED. I THINK IT WOULD BE MY INITIAL THOUGHT THAT GREEN SPACE WOULD PROBABLY WANNA REVIEW THAT APPRAISAL BECAUSE PART OF THAT APPLICATION PROCESS IS GONNA HAVE A LOT OF THAT DETAIL COME. AND SINCE IT WOULD BE A COUNTY ACQUISITION, WHICH IS FULLY QUALIFIED UNDER YOUR ORDINANCE, THEN THERE'LL BE SOME DILIGENCE THAT WE'LL COME BACK AND ASK FOR. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE A NEW APPRAISAL ON THAT, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH ON THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS JUST TO, OH, JUST TO CLARIFY THE APPLICANT, IF, IF THE COUNTY WAS THE APPLICANT, THEY WOULD NOT BE THE APPLICANT AS THE OWNER. JUST AS A PERSPECTIVE YES MA'AM. IT DOES. UH, SO MAYBE TO BE CLEAR, THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY GUARANTEE THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO EITHER GO THROUGH WITH THE TRANSACTION. IT'S JUST THEY'RE SEEKING THE FUNDING THROUGH THE PROCESS. I THINK THE BUSINESS MODEL THAT THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE AND YOUR PROCESS HAS CREATED IS THAT FOR CONSERVATION LANDS, THIS IS THE MODEL BY WHICH THE COUNTY OUGHT TO GO THROUGH FOR THAT. NOT EVERY REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION, BUT FOR CONSERVATION, FOR PASSIVE PARK, PARK, RECREATIONAL WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT, ET CETERA. THAT'S THE MODEL THAT WE'VE DONE. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE AT THE STATE LEVEL. AND THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE THE COUNTY WAS LOOKING FOR. THAT'S WHAT BRINGS CONFIDENCE IN THE PROCESS THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THIS EVENING ABOUT WHY YOUR TAXPAYERS, YOUR RESIDENTS VOTED TO, TO OFFER A REFERENDUM AND THIS EARLY IN THE PROCESS. I THINK WE WANT TO BE PARTICULARLY CAREFUL THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND GO AND FOLLOW IT THROUGH THE LETTER. OKAY. UH, A COUPLE THINGS, MR. CHAIRMAN. UM, BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DELAY OR POSTPONEMENT ON THIS, DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT? WELL, I, THERE WOULD BE A MOTION, UH, TO REFER THIS AND THEN OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSION. RIGHT. BUT WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS MOTION. 'CAUSE THE MOTION WOULD BE DEFER THE THIRD READING NEED TO RIGHT. BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS MOTION FIRST TO EVEN BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, CORRECT. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. SO I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION FOR NUMBER 11 FOR SENSE OF DISCUSSION AND A POSSIBLE POSTPONEMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL, I'LL SECOND, UH, I HAVE ALICE AND, UH, MR. MR. UH, AND THEN MR. DAWSON, YOU MADE A SECOND. ALICE WAS FIRST. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU LOGAN. YEAH. YEAH. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, NOW, NOW WE HAVE DISCUSSION. YES. UH, SENTENCE OF DISCUSSION, A COUPLE THINGS. UH, I DO THINK IT'S A SMART IDEA. UM, IF YOU WOULD INCLINE ME FOR ABOUT 60 SECONDS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE STATED ABOUT MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL THAT WOULD, UM, BE REALLY APPRECIATED. DISCUSSION IS OPEN. FIRST OFF, UM, WE SIGNED UP FOR THIS. SO WE ALL KNOW THINGS THAT CAN BE SAID ABOUT US, WHETHER IT'S HERE IN THIS CHAMBERS OR IN THE PAPERS OR PEOPLE'S INTERPRETATIONS. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS ARTICLE WAS QUOTED TODAY AND QUOTED MULTIPLE TIMES. UM, I'VE NEVER BEEN IN ANY MEETING WITH ANYBODY ABOUT THIS LAND. NEVER PERSONALLY AND AND PERSON ON A PHONE, ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE INFORMATION WE'VE GOT HERE. AND ACCORDING TO THIS, I'M THE ONE THAT'S CHAIR HEADING IT TO GET THIS LAND PURCHASED. SO I CAN TELL YOU WHOEVER'S PUSHING THAT YOU'RE WRONG, UM, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP CHECKING YOUR FACTS. SECONDLY, THE REASON THIS CAME [00:40:01] UP BACK TO COUNCIL IS 'CAUSE I REQUESTED THAT FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS IN OPEN SESSION FOR SENSE OF TRANSPARENCY. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL GOING FOR. THE LOOK FOR LAND FOR REC FIELDS. AND WE HAVE DONE THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR THIRD TRY AT LAND FIRST TWO FAILED. UM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS ONE I HAVE ON RECORD AT THE LAST MEETING SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT SUITABLE FOR BALL FIELDS, WHICH THIS ALSO HAS WRONG AS WELL. UM, THIS IDEA THAT PEOPLE SAY THIS IS A BACKDOOR DEAL AND ALL THIS STUFF, I'M WITH YOU MR. BOX. I WAS NOT A PART OF ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS EITHER. SO IT'S NEWS TO ME, ESPECIALLY SINCE I'M THE ONE VOTING ON IT AND PUSHING FOR IT. UM, LASTLY, I DO THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA. WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD TO SEE IF THIS WAS AVAILABLE FOR ANOTHER AGENCY. WE EVEN BACKED OFF PUBLICLY IN OPEN SESSION AGAIN FOR SENSE OF TRANSPARENCY THAT, THAT WE DID NOT THINK THIS WAS SUITABLE FOR BALL FIELDS, BUT WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD. SO IF WE WERE ABLE TO MEET THE DEADLINE, AT LEAST GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO BECAUSE THAT'S DOING DUE DILIGENCE WITHOUT WASTING TAXPAYER'S DOLLARS. AND IN THE PUBLIC, WE MADE IT VERY CLEAR WHY WE WERE MOVING A FORWARD TWO THIRD READING, WHICH I STILL STAND BY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE POSTPONEMENT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH US APPLYING AS A COUNTY. I'D LIKE FOR US TO SPEARHEAD THAT AND NOT TO NECESSARILY RELY ON ACTUAL OWNERS TO DO THAT IF IT IS POSSIBLE ACCORDING TO MR. CHEN. UM, SO I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION, UM, FOR US TO APPLY FOR TO THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE FOR RECOMMENDATION AND THE POSTPONEMENT OF NUMBER 11. LEMME CHECK WITH, UH, MR. KEVIN ON SOMETHING. DO WE NEED A DATE CERTAIN FOR A POSTPONEMENT OR CAN WE PUT IN THE MOTION THAT IT WILL BE AT THE RETURN OF THE EVALUATION FROM GREEN SPACE? EITHER WAY, IT'S UP TO YOU. OKAY. SO I'D RATHER PUT IT IN THERE WITHOUT A DATE CERTAIN AND JUST SAY THE EVALUATION FROM GREEN SPACE TO BE CONTAINED IN THAT. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS MAKING A MOTION THAT'S BEEN MADE TO POST TO, UM, DEFER A THIRD READING UNTIL WE REFER THIS TO THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR EVALUATION AND THEN HOLDING THE THIRD READING AFTER WE RECEIVE AND EVALUATE THAT EVALUATION. DOES THAT THE SOUND CONTRADICTORY? NO, IT DOESN'T, BUT THAT'S FINE. ANYTHING ELSE I NEED IN THERE? NO. OKAY. AND I'D SECOND THAT. OKAY. THAT MOTION? YEAH. UH, ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MR. MCSHANE? NO. MARK, I DO HAVE DISCUSSION. YOU OKAY. ON THAT, ON THAT ITEM? AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT. WE HAVE SEEN SO MUCH PEOPLE COMING FORWARD AND QUESTIONING WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT. SO THIS PROPERTY IS, IS 40 ACRES. UM, IT DOES HAVE A TOWER ON IT. AND I THINK THE FIRST APPRAISAL CAME THROUGH AND HAD AN APPRAISED HIGHER 'CAUSE THEY THOUGHT THE LEASE WAS GOING TO BE UP SOONER THAN WHAT THE LEASE IS. AND THE LAST THING THAT MY FOLKS WANT IN MY DISTRICT IS TO HAVE ANOTHER 40 HOMES BUILT ON THAT ROAD. UH, AND I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY THAT THE PROPERTY IS UNUSABLE, YOU CAN'T USE IT. UM, BUT THERE IS PROBABLY 10 ACRES THAT IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE TIRE TOWER IN THE DROP ZONE. UM, AND I LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, OKAY, 10 ACRES, WHAT COULD YOU DO? AND I, WE JUST WATCHED THE WALK GO IN ON BURTON CHURCH ROAD. IT WAS AROUND 10 ACRES. UM, THEY SOLD IT OUT IN SIX MONTHS. IT WAS 50 HOMES ON 10 ACRES. SO I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT, THAT THIS PROPERTY CAN BE DEVELOPED AND THOSE 40 HOMES CAN BE DONE ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, EXCLUDING THE WETLANDS, EXCLUDING WHERE THE TOWER IS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE LAST THING I WANT IS TO HAVE 40 MORE HOMES IN THAT AREA. THE SECOND PART OF IT IS THE FACT THAT THIS IS A STRATEGIC PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THE BLUFFTON REC CENTER. UM, IT WOULD CONNECT THEN TO BAILEY'S PARK. UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK THE, THE QUESTION FOR US IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS A FAIR PRICE FOR IT? WHAT'S THE FAIR VALUE FOR IT? SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING, HAVING, UH, APPRAISALS DONE AND AGAIN, AND HAVING THE GREEN SPACE FOLKS TAKE CARE OF THIS, UM, AND HAVE 'EM LOOK AT IT, I THINK IS, IS IS A GOOD THING. UM, IT DOES CONCERN ME THAT THEY COULD SELL IT, IT COULD BE GONE AND, AND EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WOULD COME UP WITH NO MERIT. UM, AND AGAIN, YES, THE LEASE RUNS TO TO 2046, UM, BUT I'VE GOT A ONE YEAR OLD GRANDDAUGHTER WHO LIVES IN BLUFFTON WHO'S GONNA BE HERE AND 2046. AND AT THAT TIME THERE'S STILL GONNA BE BASEBALL FIELDS NEEDED. AND THAT AREA IS GONNA BE AN AREA THAT'S GROWING STILL. SO, UM, AGAIN, UM, I, I THINK OUR ONLY QUESTION IS, IS, IS WHETHER THE PRICE WE'RE PAYING IS, IS A GOOD PRICE. AND AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, SO ON THIS, AGAIN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING AN APPRAISAL. HOWEVER, MY GUT FEELING TELLS ME IT MIGHT NOT BE THERE BY THE TIME WE COME BACK TO DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 40 MORE HOMES, UM, THAT, THAT WE HAVE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN IN AN AREA THAT, THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT. AND AGAIN, IT, IT'D BE EASIER FOR ME TO KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME OUT AGAINST THIS AND THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. BUT AGAIN, JUST TO GET THE FACTS OUT THERE AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT IT'S GONNA AFFECT EVERYONE IN THAT AREA, UM, IF WE DON'T PURCHASE IT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I ACTUALLY JUST HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION JUST SINCE I'M STILL NEW ON COUNSEL, STILL LEARNING. UH, GOING BACK TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN COMMENTING THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THE APPRAISALS, UM, THROUGH FOIAS OR ANY TYPE OF PUBLIC, UH, ACCESS IS, [00:45:01] ARE THOSE APPRAISALS KEPT? IS THAT ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED DURING THE PROCESS? UN UNTIL IT CLOSES. I I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND WHO ARE YOU DIRECTING THAT TO? UH, I'M LOOKING OVER HERE AT OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT. I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE AVAILABLE. THEY, THEY ARE A AVAIL. OKAY. I JUST, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE, SO I JUST, JUST WANT A CLARIFICATION ON THAT. MIKE. JUST, MAY I MAKE A OFFER A COMMENT TO, TO YOUR COLLEAGUES? I THINK GREENSPACE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE SET IT UP, WE ALREADY SET APPLICATION DEADLINES ARE DUE IN OC AT THE END OF OCTOBER. SO WE SET THAT FRAMEWORK, THEREFORE THAT EXPECTATION, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO CHANGE THAT. I UNDERSTAND THE RISK AFFILIATED WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S THE STANDARD WE SET IN THE ORDINANCE. AND SO THAT, I RECOMMEND WE STICK TO THAT UNDERSTANDING. THERE MAY BE SOME RISK THAT WE, THAT AN OWNER, CURRENT OWNER COULD DO SOMETHING ELSE. BUT THAT'S WHAT PROTECTS THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS BY DOING SO. AND SO I OFFER THAT WE STICK TO THAT DEADLINE THAT AN APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY TO GREEN SPACE BY THE END OF THE MONTH THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE DUE DILIGENCE. I THINK THE APPRAISER THAT WAS DONE ON THE SECOND APPRAISAL, UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE DILIGENCE, BUT THE, THE, UH, APPRAISER THAT'S DONE THAT DID THE MOST RECENT ONE HAS DONE WORK FOR THE COUNTY ON RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS AND FOR THE STATE BANK, WHICH I'M ALSO OBVIOUSLY AFFILIATED WITH. SO I'M, I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE COULD JUST DO, KIND OF MAKE THIS PROCESS AS EFFICIENT AS, AS ONE CAN AND COME BACK WITH A GENUINE RECOMMENDATION. PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I'M SOMEWHAT AGNOSTIC WHEN IT COMES TO WHETHER THIS SHOULD BE ACQUIRED OR NOT. IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND I'M GONNA HAND THAT INFORMATION TO YOU FOR YOU TO MAKE THAT DECISION. WHAT I WANT TO GET OUT OF THAT IS YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE INFORMATION THAT'S BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU TO MAKE THAT TYPE OF DECISION AND IT KEEPS THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS IN, IN PLACE THE ENTIRE TIME. I APPRECIATE THAT. COOL, COOL. YEAH, I APPRECIATE EXACTLY HOW YOU WORDED THAT. THAT'S, I TAKE BULLETS AS WELL. I PROMISE YOU, I TAKE BULLETS AS WELL FROM IN ANY APPOINTED ROLE. I PROMISE YOU I'VE HAD THOSE KIND OF COMMENTS MADE. IT JUST, I JUST, IT JUST ROLLS ON. IT ALWAYS HAPPENS. PEOPLE SAY WHAT THEY WANT SAY'S TELL YOU, HERE'S THE SIDE OF THE ANGELS WE'RE ON. WE WERE GONNA RESPECT A PROCESS THAT YOU JUST RECENTLY PUT IN PLACE. LET US GO THROUGH THAT. COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION, WORK WITH YOUR GREAT COUNTY STAFF ON HOW WE MIGHT COME TO THAT. WHEN I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, NO PREDICTION HERE THAT YOU'LL HAVE AT LEAST THE CONFIDENCE TO KNOW YOU'RE MAKING THE DECISION BASED ON GOOD DATA. I'D LIKE TO CALL A QUESTION UNLESS YOU HAVE MORE THAT YOU WANT TO ADD TO IT JUST BRIEFLY. I WOULD, UH, ONE QUESTION IN THE STATEMENT IF I MAY. UM, I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S, WE JUST NEED THE INFORMATION AND THE FACTS. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU TELLING US YES OR NO. IT'S ABOUT HERE'S ALL THE INFORMATION, NO GRAY AREA. YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, WHAT DO YOU WANNA PURCHASE IT AT THE PRICE AND IS IT FEASIBLE FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO USE IT FOR? AND THEN SECONDLY, DO YOU, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD PUT SOME TYPE OF TIMELINE ESTIMATE FOR US WHEN WE COULD GET SOME INFORMATION BACK SO WE COULD REFER BACK TO THE SELLER SAYING, HEY, THIS IS THE TIMEFRAME WE'RE ON, IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GO BY THESE GUIDELINES. IT'S NOT SET IN STONE, BUT THIS IS OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE AN ANSWER BACK BY END OF NOVEMBER, DECEMBER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR MEETING PROCESS IS LIKE DURING THAT. SO WE AGREED TO A QUARTERLY APPLICATION PROCESS, MEANING THAT AFTER OCTOBER, THE NEXT APPLICATION DEADLINE IS END OF JANUARY. THIS THE, UM, STRATEGY IS THAT WHAT APPLICATIONS COME IN IN OCTOBER. WE HAVE WALL ALREADY WORKED THROUGH AND HAVE COME BACK TO YOU FOR, YOU CAN DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND YOUR PROCESS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE NEXT APPLICATION PROCESS. OTHERWISE WE START CREATING THIS OVERLAP, WHICH I'D LIKE TO TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM. IT ALSO WAS TO MIRROR THE STATE CONSERVATION BANK. SO I CAN KIND OF PARALLEL A LOT OF THE, 'CAUSE MANY OF THESE PROJECTS, NOT JUST THIS, I'M TALKING ABOUT MANY PROJECTS WILL HAVE PARALLEL APPLICATIONS GOING IN. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS COME BACK WITH YOU WITH THE BEST RECOMMENDATION ON NOT ONLY WHAT GREEN SPACE RECOMMENDS, BUT WHAT FUNDING MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO HELP GREEN SPACE. BECAUSE MY OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO TAKE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS AND MAKE IT A $300 MILLION IMPACT. CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT WE THINK WE ALL ARE STRIVING TO ACHIEVE. THAT TO ME IS SUCCESS. NOT TAKING A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS AND GET A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF REAL ESTATE. YOU DON'T NEED ME TO DO THAT. I CAN GO HOME, WHICH I'M GONNA DO HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. OKAY. SO I'M GONNA CALL A QUESTION AND WE'RE VOTING ON A, UH, MOTION THAT WILL DEFER THIRD READING, UH, WITH A SUBMISSION TO THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE FOR EVALUATING THIS LAND PURCHASE. AND THEN THAT, UH, THIRD READING WILL BE POSTPONED UNTIL WE HAVE A REPORT BACK TO THEM THAT WE EVALUATE. DO EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT? DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL? UH, I I DON'T, I'LL BE A, I'LL BE A NO A NAME. I UNDERSTAND. UH, YEAH. WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL YOU, SIR. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER HOWARD? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER LAWSON. [00:50:01] MARK LAWSON? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BARTHOLOMEW? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER TABER? YES. VICE CHAIR MCALLEN? YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MR. MCSHANE. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES. IF, CAN I GET A MOMENT OF PURPOSE? SURE. APPRECIATE THAT. UM, I'VE HEARD BOTH FROM MR. CUNNINGHAM, MR. LAWSON, AND ANYBODY IN TON COMMUNITY TALKING ABOUT A NEED FOR SPACE FOR PARKS, BASEBALL FIELD, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND I, I, I WOULD WISH THAT THAT DIRECTION WILL TURN TO THE ADMINISTRATION, UH, FOR YOU TO LOOK AT FINDING PROPERTY FOR SUCH EVERY TIME PROPERTY FROM BLUFFTON COMES UP, IT MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR RECREATION, UM, LIKE THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY HERE. SO DIRECT THAT TO THE ADMINISTRATION. SO THE ADMINISTRATION COULD BE LOOKING FOR PUBLIC PARKING, I MEAN BASEBALL FIELDS FOR THE BOSTON COMMUNITY. I JUST WANNA MAKE WE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA. COMMUNITY SERVICES. YEAH. LAND USE. AND IT'S ALREADY ON THE AGENDA AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THESE PROPERTIES COME UP AND WE'VE TRIED TO DO D DUE DUE DILIGENCE ON THEM PUBLICLY AGAIN FOR TRANSPARENCY. WE DIDN'T DO IT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACTS RIGHT HERE AND GONE BACK AND FORTH LIKE THIS WHEN WE REALIZED THERE WAS MORE WETLANDS THAN WE PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT. BUT I AGREE IT, IT'S SOMETHING WE JUST NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT TILL WE FIND SOMETHING. UM, SO THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM [12. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE HILTON HEAD NO. 1 PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT, SOUTH CAROLINA TO ISSUE NOT EXCEEDING $23,000,000 OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS; AND PROVIDING FOR OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO] ITEM NUMBER 12. UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING HILTON HEAD NUMBER ONE PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT, THE ISSUE NOT EXCEEDING $23 MILLION OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AND PROVIDING FOR OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO. THERE WAS A VOTE AT THE FIRST READING IN FAVOR. VOTE AT THE SECOND. READING IN FAVOR. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AT THIS HEARING? DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COMMENT IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION WILL BE CLOSED AND I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR THE THIRD READING OF THE ORDINANCE, PLEASE. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. THANK YOU. SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. CHAIRMAN? I'M SORRY. UM, I SHOULD HAVE MADE THAT MOTION FOR YOU. YOU THE ONLY REPRESENTATIVE FROM HILTON HEAD NIGHT? YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. I, I'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU. HEARING NO DISCUSSION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO PASSING THIS ITEM? HEARING NO OBJECTIONS. THIS ITEM HAS PASSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 13 [13. PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE 7, DIVISION 7.4, SECTION 7.4.50 (PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULING AND NOTICE) AND SECTION 7.4.70 (PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES) TO CLARIFY THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT TAKEN FOR APPEALS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS] IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE SEVEN, DIVISION 7.4, SECTION 7.40 AND SECTION 7.470. TO CLARIFY THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT TAKEN FOR APPEALS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. THE VOTE AT THE FIRST READING WAS 11 2 0. MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. MR. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. SECOND. I SECOND. MR. DAWSON WAS FIRST ON THE SECOND. UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? HEARING NO DISCUSSION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO PASSING THIS? SEEING NO OBJECTIONS. THIS MATTER PASSES AS WELL. WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER [14. PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING AMENDMENTS TO CH 38. ARTICLE II. TRASH AND LITTER CONTROL OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES] 14, A PUBLIC HEARING AND A SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 38. ARTICLE TWO, TRASH AND LITTER CONTROL OF THE BUFORT COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING? YES. DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. I'LL TAKE A MOTION, UH, FOR THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THOSE, UH, AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 38. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. SECOND. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? GIVING NO DISCUSSION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NO OBJECTIONS. THIS MATTER PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NUMBER 15 IS ALSO [15. PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 62, SOLID WASTE, BEAUFORT COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES] A PUBLIC HEARING AND A SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 62, SOLID WASTE. BUFORD COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THAT MATTER? SEEING NO ONE, THAT PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED. AND I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE. SO MOVED. MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A SECOND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NO DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO PASSING THIS MATTER? NO OBJECTIONS. THIS MATTER PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM [16. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO ACCEPT RIGHT OF WAY ON DIANAH’S DRIVE] 16 FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO ACCEPT THE RIGHT OF WAY ON DIANA'S DRIVE. SO MOVE MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. SECOND. I'LL SECOND MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? OOPS. SORRY. YES. YES. COULD, COULD THE ADMINISTRATION SPEAK TO THAT REAL QUICK? SURE. MR. ROBINSON, IS THERE ANYONE THAT CAN SPEAK TO THE ACCEPTING [00:55:01] RIGHT AWAY ON DIANA'S DRIVE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS LOCATED ON HILTON HEAD, IS IT NOT? YES, IT'S AS WELL. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. SO THIS IS A PROPERTY, UH, UH, DRIVE OR A, UM, A ROAD THAT WE PAVED IN 2006 AS PART OF OUR DIRT ROAD PAVING PROGRAM. UH, AT THAT TIME, THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WAS ACQUIRED, UM, WE ONLY FOR WHATEVER REASON, ONLY ACQUIRED BY DEEDED A PORTION OF THAT AND, BUT WE WERE UNABLE TO ACQUIRE THE FULL DEEDED, UM, OF THE CENTER PORTION. SO AT THIS TIME, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO OWNS THAT CENTER PORTION, UM, IS LOOKING TO SUBDIVIDE HIS PROPERTY. AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, HE HAS TO SUBDIVIDE OUT THE ROAD FIRST OR DIVIDE THE ROAD OUT AND THEN SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY. SO, UM, NOW IT'S TURNED WHERE THE LANDOWNER WANTS TO PROVIDE THAT SO HE CAN THUS SUBDIVIDE HIS PROPERTY. SO WE ARE ACCEPTING AND PERFECTING OUR RIGHT OF WAY, UM, THAT WE'VE ALREADY IMPROVED THE ROAD UPON. SO THAT'S, THIS IS ROAD OFF OF MARSHLAND DRIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. THANK YOU JARED. ANYONE ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, DOES ANYONE OBJECT TO PASSING THIS FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE? SO NO OBJECTIONS. THIS MATTER PASSES. WE'RE [17. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 30 HUNTER ROAD WITH EDISON FOARD, INC. (FISCAL IMPACT: Hilton Head Island Airport will receive income generated through lease revenue - -Tenant shall pay $1,390.00 for office space (814 square feet x $20.50/12) and $1,698 for warehouse space (1,406 square feet x $14.50/12) in monthly base rental payments for premises located at 30 Hunter Rd. These lease rates are in accordance with current Beaufort County lease policies)] ON ITEM NUMBER 17. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 30 HUNTER ROAD WITH EDISON. F-O-A-R-D INCORPORATED. FISCAL IMPACT IS, UM, HILTON HEAD AIRPORT WILL RECEIVE INCOME GENERATED THROUGH LEASE REVENUE. TENANT SHALL PAY $1,390 FOR OFFICE SPACE AND 1,698 FOR WAREHOUSE SPACE IN A MONTHLY BASE RENTAL PAYMENT, OR THE PREMISES LOCATED AT 30 HUNTER ROAD. THESE LEASE RATES ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CURRENT BUFORT COUNTY LEASE POLICIES. SO MOVE MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING FOR A SECOND. A SECOND. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TO HAVE QUESTION. SO ON PAGE, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE THIS, IT'S ONE 16 OF THE PACKET. I NOTICED THERE'S A NEW, IS THIS THE FIRST TIME I'M SEEING A LEGAL REVIEW REQUEST FORM? I REALLY LIKED IT. AND THAT SAYS IT WENT TO LEGAL FOR REVIEW, BUT I'VE NOT SEEN THIS IN A PREVIOUS PACKET. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME. FUNNY MR. KEVIN. I DIDN'T NOTICE IT IN THE BACKUP. UM, AND IT PROBABLY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S FOR THIS ONE. AND THE NEXT ONE. THIS IS AN INTERNAL DOCUMENT THAT JUST INDICATES YES, IT'S BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS. OKAY. IT'S IN THIS ONE. YOU'RE DEMANDING THAT IN EVERY FUTURE PACKAGE. I'M, I DON'T DEMAND ANYTHING LUCKY. I MEAN, I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT SHOWS, IT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, SO, OKAY. IT'S ON THE NEXT ONE TOO. OKAY. UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. IS ANYONE OBJECT TO PASSING THIS FIRST READING? NO. NO OBJECTIONS. ITEM 17 PASSES NUMBER 18. FIRST READING [18. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 39 AIRPORT CIRCLE WITH HIGH TIDE AVIATION SCENIC TOURS (FISCAL IMPACT: Beaufort Executive Airport will receive income generated through fuel sales, the airport’s standard 3% operating agreement, and lease revenue --Tenant shall pay $231.00 (140 square feet x $19.80/12) in monthly base rental payments for premises located at the Beaufort Executive Airport terminal. These lease rates are in accordance with current Beaufort County lease policies)] OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER A LEASE AGREEMENT OR PROPERTY. LOCATED AT 39 AIRPORT CIRCLE WITH HIGH TIDE AVIATION SCENIC TOURS. UM, BUFORD COUNTY EXECUTIVE AIRPORT WILL RECEIVE INCOME GENERATED THROUGH FUEL SALES. THE AIRPORT'S STANDARD 3% OPERATING AGREEMENT AND LEASE REVENUE. THE TENANT SHALL PAY $231 AND A MONTHLY BASE RENTAL PAYMENT FOR THE PREMISES LOCATED AT THE BUFORD EXECUTIVE AIRPORT TERMINAL. THESE LEASE RATES ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH BUFORT COUNTY LEASE POLICIES. MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? SO MOVE I SECOND . WE GOT IT. WE GOT IT COVERED ON THAT. SARAH, UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? HEARING NONE, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? HEARING NONE THIS MATTER PASSES. WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER [19. APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ENTER INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL SUPPORT AGREEMENT (IGSA) WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS AT THE MARINE CORPS RECRUIT DEPOT PARRIS ISLAND (MCRD PARRIS ISLAND), THE MARINE CORPS AIR STATION (MCAS) AND THE NAVAL HOSPITAL BY PROVIDING GENERAL GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES (FISCAL IMPACT: In each and every task order, the County would quote a fee that covers all time and material costs to perform the identified work)] 19, APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ENTER INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL SUPPORT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS AT THE MARINE CORPS. RECRUIT DEPOT, PARIS ISLAND, THE MARINE CORPS AIR STATION, AND THE NAVAL HOSPITAL BY PROVO PROVIDING GENERAL GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES THE FISCAL IMPACT. AND THIS IS INTERESTING, IN EACH AND EVERY TASK ORDER, THE COUNTY WOULD QUOTE A FEE THAT COVERS ALL TIME AND MATERIAL COSTS TO PERFORM THE IDENTIFIED WORK. SO THERE WOULD BE NO COST TO THE COUNTY. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND IT. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY QUESTIONS? CHAIRMAN? I THINK IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP. I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING IT. AND IT'S NO FISCAL IMPACT, SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO. MR. GLOVER? YEAH, I, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE THE COMMENT I MADE AT THE, UM, A COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, UH, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH OUR, UM, RIGHT TO DO WORK FOR OUR CITIZENS, UM, RIGHT, SO I, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THAT ANSWER WAS PROVIDED BY MR. FREIS WITH REGARD TO IF THERE WAS, THEN WE HIRING ADDITIONAL PEOPLE. I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT COMMENT AGAIN. THAT'S ALL. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO GET ON THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT THERE WILL BE NO INTERFERENCE WITH [01:00:01] THE WORK BEING PERFORMED FOR OUR CITIZENS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTIONS FOR THIS TO PASS? HEARING NO OBJECTIONS. ITEM NUMBER 20 PASSES APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. ITEM 21, [21. APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A MOA BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE CITY OF BEAUFORT TO EXPLORE THE FEASIBILITY OF COLOCATING MUNICIPAL FIRE SERVICE AND COUNTY EMS (FISCAL IMPACT: Funds in the amount of $25,000+/- are allocated to the building of a new EMS station in the CIP budget Account #10401230- 54420. The balance is $1.5 Million) ] APPROVAL OF ANOTHER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE CITY OF BEAUFORT TO EXPLORE THE FEASIBILITY OF CO-LOCATING MUNICIPAL FIRE SERVICE AND COUNTY EMS FISCAL IMPACT ITS FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,000 PLUS OR ALLOCATED TO THE BUILDING OF A NEW EMS STATION IN THE CIP BUDGET ACCOUNT. THE BALANCE IN THAT ACCOUNT IS $1.5 MILLION. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I BELIEVE WE SKIPPED NUMBER 20. SKIP 20. ST. JAMES. ST. JAMES. OH, SORRY. OKAY. LET'S DO THE ONE I JUST READ, THEN I'LL GO BACK TO THAT ONE. CAN I DO THAT? I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ONE I MISTAKENLY READ? ? NO. OKAY. ANY OBJECTIONS? THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS. WE'LL MOVE THAT ONE FORWARD AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE ONE I SKIPPED. APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION FOR [20. APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION FOR AN ADDENDUM TO A 2020 MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING (MOU) WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD FOR THE ST. JAMES BAPTIST CHURCH RELOCATION PROJECT (FISCAL IMPACT: As part of the original MOU, both the Town and County deposited $150,000 each, totaling $300,000, into an account to share in the costs to prepare all of the preliminary documentation and studies necessary to secure FAA grant funding for the relocation of the Church and School. To date, there are still sufficient funds in the account for the expected expenses, and no additional funding is required by this Addendum)] AN ADDENDUM TO A 2020 MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD FOR THE ST. JAMES BAPTIST CHURCH RELOCATION PROJECT. FISCAL IMPACT IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL MOU. THE TOWN AND COUNTY DEPOSITED $150,000 EACH, TOTALING 300,000 INTO AN ACCOUNT TO SHARE THE COST TO PREPARE ALL OF THE PRELIMINARY DOCUMENTATION AND STUDIES NECESSARY TO SECURE FAA GRANT FUNDING FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE CHURCH AND SCHOOL. TO DATE, THERE ARE STILL SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN THE ACCOUNT FOR THE EXPECTED EXPENSES AND NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS REQUIRED BY THIS ADDENDUM. MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? SO MOVED. MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND THAT. MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NO DISCUSSION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? HEARING NO OBJECTIONS? MATTER PASSES NOW BACK IN THE CORRECT ORDER. ITEM NUMBER 21. I DID THAT ONE. SORRY. YOU DID THAT. OKAY. SO NOW I'M ON ITEM [22. CITIZEN COMMENT] NUMBER 22, WHICH IS THE FINAL, UH, CITIZEN COMMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE GONE THROUGH OUR, UH, AGENDA, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THE END OF THE CITIZEN COMMENTS, AND THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ACTION AT THE END, UH, OF THAT. SO WE WILL JUST TELL YOU THAT WE WILL TAKE A BREAK AFTER CITIZEN COMMENTS AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK AND FINISH OUT THE MEETING. SO, ON THE CITIZEN COMMENTS, UH, THIS EVENING, PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC THAT THEY HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT. AND I SEE THAT THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT PROSPECT ROAD. UH, ONE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FERRY, AND THEN ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CPO ON PINE ISLAND. I WILL TELL YOU THE SAME THING I TOLD THE OTHER CITIZENS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH. UH, WHEN THERE'S 30 SECONDS LEFT, UH, LEFT, YOU'LL HEAR THE FIRST BELL. DON'T BE ALARMED. AND 30 SECONDS, THERE'LL BE A LOUDER BELL, AS I SAID, JUST LIKE BIG BEN. AND THEN WE WOULD ASK YOU TO, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STOP IMMEDIATELY AND FREEZE, BUT IF YOU COULD WRAP IT UP, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. SO, SALLY ANN, I'M GONNA CALL ON YOU FIRST, PLEASE. YOU COULD COME FORWARD. SALLY ANN ROBBINS FROM DUSKY ISLAND. NICE TO SEE YOU, SALLY. GOOD EVENING. HELLO COUNSEL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME GET THIS MOMENT. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF PROSPECT ROAD ON DUSKY ISLAND, AND I WANNA QUOTE A SAYING, MY GRANDMOTHER USED TO SAY, GIVE FOLKS AN INCH AND THEY'LL TAKE A YARD. . OKAY. UM, DUSKY IS OUR SMALL BEAUTIFUL BRIDGE LIST ISLAND. AND I'VE, I'M SIX GENERATION BORN NATIVE FROM THERE. AND MANY TIMES THROUGHOUT MY YEARS OF GROWING UP THERE, THESE ROAD, ALL THESE ROADS THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR GENERATION, HAVE BEEN A PART OF OUR WORLD. THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE THE KY THAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'VE BEEN AT THIS POINT SO FAR. I, UM, AS WE WERE DOING THE PETITION, I WENT TO A GENTLEMAN, MR. CLE BRYANT, WHO'S 98 YEARS OLD. HE WAS BORN ON THAT ROAD. AND I WAS SHARING WITH HIM WHAT IS BEING ASKED FOR THIS ROAD TO BE CLOSED. HE ADAMANTLY SAID, PLEASE DON'T HAVE THAT ROAD CLOSED. 'CAUSE HE REMEMBERED WHEN THE MILITARY, HE WAS A LITTLE BOY, WHEN THE MILITARY WHEN MARCHED DOWN THAT ROAD AND HE WAS ALSO BORN ON THAT ROAD. IT'S A MEMORY OF, FOR SOME OF US, THAT SOME FOLKS WHO ARE COMING TODAY COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND. AND ALL I'M ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE, PLEASE NOT HAVE THESE ROAD CLOSED ON THE ISLAND. BECAUSE WHEN YOU CLOSE ONE OR GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY, THEN THEY'RE GONNA BE OTHERS. WANTING TO CLOSE FUKE ISN'T ON, IS ONLY FIVE MILE LONG, TWO AND A HALF WIDE. THIS ISLAND AIN'T GONNA SHUT DOWN. FOR PEOPLE THAT'S COMING THERE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ACTUAL LOVE THAT WE BORN AND RAISED THEY HAVE FOR IT. YOU TAKE AWAY INCH BY INCH AND YOU'RE LEFT WITH ANYTHING. SO I AM ASKING, I'M NOT ONLY ASKING, I'M PLEADING WITH YOU TO PLEASE AT LEAST THINK ABOUT STARTING AN ORDINANCE FOR OUR ISLAND TO SAVE IT FOR, NOT FOR SOME, BUT FOR ALL. PROSPECT ROAD IS A ROAD [01:05:01] THAT WE ALL LOVE AND APPRECIATE AND WOULD LOVE FOR OTHERS AND GENERATIONS TO COME. AS A GRANDMOTHER, AS A GREAT-GRANDMOTHER, I HAVE 16 GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, TWO GREAT GRAND, AND I TOO WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO HAVE THE LOVE OF SEEING THAT ISLAND THE WAY IT IS AN ISLAND, NOT A PLACE THAT NEED TO BE BUILT UP TO BE A CITY. IT IS AN ISLAND, A ISLAND. CAN WE PLEASE KEEP IT THAT WAY? CAN WE PLEASE HELP PEOPLE WHO CONTINUE TO COME AND ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS NOT FOR WHAT IT USED TO BE. I'M A TOUR GUIDE THERE. I TALK ABOUT THAT ISLAND. I SHARE THE HISTORY. PEOPLE LOVE IT. THEY'RE CONSTANTLY COMING BACK BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY, THE LOVE THEY HAVE FOR DUSKY. THANK YOU, SALLY. I DON'T LEAVE YET. SURE. TRADITION, UH, BINDS US NOT TO ENGAGE IN DEBATE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DEBATE. I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. YOU MENTIONED THE, THE PETITION, WHICH WE ALL HAVE. YES, SIR. THERE'S A LINE IN THERE THAT SAYS YOU'VE HEARD OF A DEAL BETWEEN THE COUNTY TO GIVE UP THIS BEAUTIFUL ROAD. WHAT IS THAT, SIR? IT'S JUST TALK, BUT I DON'T HAVE PROOF. OKAY. I'M JUST SHARING WHAT I KNOW. A LOT OF TALK, A LOT OF MIXED INFORMATION IS GOING AROUND. THE BOTTOM LINE IS I'M GONNA TRUST HEARING FROM YOU, NOT OTHERS, BECAUSE WE GET ENOUGH OF, AS THIS GENTLEMAN'S SAYING, PEOPLE TALK, BUT THEY DON'T WALK TO WALK. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. S I'M GLAD YOU HAD THE CHAIRMAN . THAT'S RIGHT. UH, OKAY. UM, YVONNE WILSON? YES. EVENING, MS. WILSON. HELLO. HOW YOU DOING TODAY? FINE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M TWO FROM DUSKY. I'M, I WAS, UH, I WAS RAISED ON THE ISLAND. MY MOTHER BROUGHT ME OVER TO DUSKY WHEN I, WHEN I WAS SIX YEARS OLD. I'M NOW 70. SO I'VE BEEN LIVING ON THAT ON DUSKY FOR 64 YEARS. UM, AND I LOVE IT. I RAISE MY, ALL MY KIDS. I HAVE FOUR KIDS THAT HAVE RAISED ON THE ISLAND AND I LIVE ON THE ROAD THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CLOSE. AND IF YOU, IF YOU COME TO THE FUSSY AND YOU COME ON THAT ROAD AT THE END OF THE ROAD ON ONE END, THEY HAVE A CULVERT WHERE, UM, THE MARSH AND THE WATER GO THROUGH. I'VE SEEN THAT PART OF THE ISLAND, UH, FLOOD FROM TIME TO TIME. AND YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH ON THAT SIDE. SO THE ONLY OTHER SIDE THAT'S THE RIGHT SIDE FOR ME, UH, THE ONLY OTHER WAY FOR ME TO GET OFF THE ISLAND WHENEVER IT RAINS, OR WHENEVER WE HAVE A STORM OR WHATEVER, IS TO GO TO THE LEFT AND THAT'S TO GO THROUGH THE MAIN PROPERTY. RIGHT. BUT THE ROAD HAS BEEN HERE, BEEN THERE FOR THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT I'VE BEEN, BEEN ON THE FUSSY AND, YOU KNOW, UNTIL NOW. RIGHT. UM, LIKE I SAY, I RAISED ALL MY KIDS AND ON THE FUSSY AND I WORKED FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY. I USED TO GRADE THE ROAD. MATTER OF FACT, I WAS THE ONLY FEMALE IN SOUTH CAROLINA THAT EVER GRADE, UH, THE ROADS. I DID. UM, I WAS A MAINTENANCE, UH, WORKER AND I HELPED BUILD THE ROADS ON THE ISLAND. SO I KNOW IT QUITE WELL, YOU KNOW, AND SO I'M ASKING TOO, LIKE SALLY ANN HAVE TO PLEASE, UH, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I MEAN, PLEASE DON'T LET THEM CLOSE THAT ROAD OFF. 'CAUSE I HAVE NO WAY OF GETTING OFF. IF THEY DO, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU. OKAY. I I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU TOO. OKAY. YOU MENTIONED, I LISTENED CAREFULLY TO WHAT YOU SAID. YEAH. YOU SAID THERE'S A CULVERT THERE FOR DRAINAGE. IS THAT CULVERT BLOCKED AND PREVENTING THE DRAINAGE CAUSING FLOODING? YES, RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THEY HADN'T BEEN OPENING UP THE DRAIN THE PIPES ON IT. OKAY. AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO DRAIN IT DOWN WHERE? INTO THE, UH, IN THE MARSH. IT GOES OFF INTO THE MARSH. OKAY. IT'S BACKING UP AND FLOODING. YES, IT IS. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN WE HAVE A REQUEST TO GET SOME INFORMATION ON IT? SOME OTHER THAN TODAY? THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT ON THE, UH, YEAH, I THINK THAT, UH, THE ITSELF WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, ABOUT IT BEING TALKED ABOUT. WE'LL, YOU, WELL, THERE WAS A, UH, IT WAS SETTLED, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE IS A, UH, PLAN RIGHT NOW TO, UM, NOT PAVE, BUT TO, UM, UM, ROCK PROSPECT ROAD AND STUFF. SO I THINK THAT'S ROCKO BLOCK PUT ROCKS. ROCKS, YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. ROCK. I GOT IT. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S BEING DONE AT THIS TIME OR BEING PROPOSED TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME. I CAN, I CAN CLARIFY. WE, WE ACTUALLY, UM, THE, THE ROAD WAS BEING PROPOSED BY A PROPERTY OWNER WHERE THE ROAD GOES THROUGH HIS PROPERTY AND HE HAS OFFERED TO REROUTE THE ROAD TO MAKE IT SO IT DOESN'T NOT GO THROUGH HIS PROPERTY. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME ABOUT 2, 3, 4 OR FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN IT FIRST CAME ON. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS SIMPLE. AND FOR SOME REASON NOW, UM, THAT IDEA IS COMING BACK AROUND AGAIN. THAT, THAT HE'S TRYING TO PUSH THAT AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, SAME OWNER, SAME OWNER, SAME OWNER. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT HE'S TRYING TO, [01:10:01] UM, TO GET, UM, SUPPORT TO DO THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE, THE, THE ISSUES ARE COMING FROM. SO THAT'S THE, THE IDEA IS THE FACT THAT THAT, UM, THAT'S WHAT THE TALK IS. AND WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S, THAT'S THE WORD. HE'S MADE AN OFFER TO REROUTE THE ROAD. WHO DO YOU MAKE THAT TO? HE, HE HAS MADE THAT TO THE COUNTY IN THE PAST, TO THE COUNTY. UM, I THINK WE'RE CURRENTLY STILL IN LITIGATION WITH HIM AND HE ALSO, UM, IS NOW PROPOSING THAT AGAIN TO THE RESIDENTS OF, OF DUSKY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE TALK OKAY, SALLY, I GET YOU. YEAH. BUT THAT'S WHERE THE TALK IS COMING FROM. SORRY, TOM. OH, SORRY TOM. BUT MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, SORRY. SORRY, GO AHEAD. YEAH. THE, THE, THE, WE JUST APPROVED, UM, PLANS FOR PAVING CRUSH USING GRAVEL TO PAVE I THINK TWO OR THREE ROADS ON DUSKY. YES. PROSPECT ROAD WAS ONE OF THOSE. YES. JARED SAYS, NO, I DON'T THINK J OR I'M SORRY, I DON'T THINK PROSPECT ROAD WAS ONE, BUT WE DID APPROVED ROADS 'CAUSE WE WERE SENDING AND DOING IT ALL OVER AT ONE TIME. IT CAME TO MY EXACTLY. 'CAUSE YOU WERE PUTTING ALL THE ROCK OVER THERE. WE WANNA DO ONE SHIPMENT 'CAUSE IT'S COMING FROM YEAH, BUT IT WASN'T PROSPECT THOUGH. BUT NOT PROSPECT. JARED, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT FOR US? THAT'S CORRECT. SO PROSPECT IS NOT ONE OF, OF THE THREE THAT'S BEING DROPPED TO THIS TOWN. OKAY. OKAY. OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS CONSIDERATION CHURCH. OKAY. THAT WAS POSTPONE BY THIS SALLY ANN. IT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL. DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? I, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS ROAD IS CAUSING A DIVIDING COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. YEAH. YEAH. AND THE SAD THING IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU REROUTE A ROAD, YOU TAKE AWAY THE HISTORY. RIGHT, OF COURSE. YEAH. WE GET YEAH, WE GET THAT. WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT. YEAH. I, I UNDERSTAND. UM, OKAY. UH, I'VE LOST TRACK OF WHERE WE ARE, SO IF I CAN JUST, SO IF I CAN JUST KIND OF TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE. YEAH. UM, COUNCILMAN GLOVER THREE YEARS AGO, UM, MADE A MOTION, UM, THAT THE COUNTY TAKE OWNERSHIP OF PROSPECT ROAD, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THESE THREE YEARS. WOW. AND WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT. WOW. AND WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN LITIGATION WITH, UM, UH, THE NAME OF THE COMPANY, THE OWNER DELANEY, MR. DELANEY'S COMPANY IS THE TITLED OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE IN LITIGATION WITH HIS COMPANY. AND AS Y'ALL KNOW, UM, IT'S PROCESSES OF LITIGATION IN BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL COURT. YOU HAVE TO MEDIATE CASES AND WE'RE MEDIATING THIS CASE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. AND I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT ANY FURTHER. GOT IT. THAT'S WHERE WE I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. UM, WAS THERE A MATTER BEFORE US IN THAT REGARD, OR WAS IT JUST CITIZEN COMMENTS? OH, OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I KIND OF LOST TRACK OF WHERE WE WERE FOR A MINUTE. IT'S WHILE WE'RE HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HELPING ME OUT, . AND NOW WE HAVE ONE FINAL ITEM. UH, DID YOU HAVE A COUPLE MORE ASSISTANT'S COMMENTS HERE? I, I HAVE 'EM. OH, I'M SORRY. NO. BETH MCINTYRE IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE FERRY SYSTEMS. OKAY. HELLO BETH. WELCOME EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA EXECUTIVE NO, NOT YET. AS YOU SAID, MY NAME'S BETH MCINTYRE. I'M A PROPERTY OWNER AND BUSINESS OWNER ON DUSKY ISLAND. I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT SOME RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IMPLEMENTED BY WHITESTONE, LLC, REDFISH, LLC, AND DI LAUNCH LLC, REGARDING THE CRITICAL THEORY SERVICE FOR ISLANDER RESIDENTS. I WANNA START OUT BY SAYING THAT THE PUBLIC SERVICE, WHICH RUNS BETWEEN BUCKINGHAM LANDING AND BLUFFTON TO MELROSE LANDING ON DUSKY IS A CRITICAL SERVICE FOR ALL ISLANDERS. THE FERRY IS THE WAY IN WHICH THE ISLANDERS ACCESS HEALTHCARE, EMERGENCY SERVICES, FOOD, OBTAIN OTHER BASIC SERVICES FOR MY FAMILY IS THE WAY WE GET BACK AND FORTH TO THE ISLAND TO RUN OUR BUSINESSES. I SENT EMAILS SOME MONTHS AGO TO BEAUFORT COUNTY TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT HAGUE POINT, THE PRIVATE BUSINESS WHO OPERATES THE DUSKY ISLAND SERVICE, WAS INCREASING THEIR PARKING FEES AT BUCKINGHAM LANDING. THIS CAUSED A HARDSHIP FOR SOME DUSKY ISLAND RESIDENTS WHEN FEES WENT FROM $50 A MONTH TO A HIGH OF $175 PER MONTH, PAYABLE FOR SIX MONTHS IN ADVANCE. WOW. NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THAT INCREASE. SOME RESIDENTS WERE FORCED TO EITHER SELL THEIR CARS OR MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS ABOUT PAYING PARKING FEES IN LIEU OF FOOD AND OTHER BILLS. WHITESTONE CEO TIM PITCHER PRESENTED HIS PLAN TO BEGIN CHARGING RESIDENTS FOR PARKING AT MELROSE LANDING ON THE OTHER SIDE. MITER PITCHER DECLARED THIS WAS NECESSARY DUE TO HIS SELF-CREATED SCARCITY OF PARKING SPACES. AND BECAUSE IT IS THEIR RIGHT AS PROPERTY MANAGERS TO DO SO, AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, EVERY RESIDENT WHO PARKED A GOLF CART OVERNIGHT OR VEHICLE AT MELROSE LANDING WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY $50 FOR A CART, A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR A VEHICLE, AND $150 FOR A CONTRACTOR VEHICLE PAYABLE QUARTERLY. HE ALSO STATED THAT THE GOING RATE WAS DETERMINED BY HAGUE POINT'S IMPLEMENTATION OF THEIR PARKING FEE STRUCTURE IN ALMOST THREE YEARS ON ISLAND, TWO FULL SEASONS, NOT ONE BIT OF PAPERWORK HAS BEEN SHARED WITH ISLAND RESIDENTS TO CONFIRM WHITE STONE'S ABILITY TO OPERATE A BUSINESS [01:15:01] OR TO EVEN REPRESENT REDFISH HOLDINGS. THE CURRENT OWNER OF MELROSE, MUCH LESS CHARGE FOR PARKING. THESE NEW FEES AND THE UNCERTAINTY REGARDING THE FERRY LANDING IN JANUARY HAS CAUSED TURMOIL AND CREATED SIGNIFICANT HARDSHIP FOR ISLAND RESIDENTS. IN TWO AND A HALF MONTHS, WE WILL BE EVICTED FROM OUR CURRENT LOCATION AT BUCKINGHAM FOR JUDGE'S ORDER AND NO MOVEMENT OR COMMUNICATION TO DUSON RESIDENCE HAS BEEN MADE. NOW WE HAVE BEEN LEFT TO ENDURE ANOTHER ATTEMPT BY WHITESTONE TO OBTAIN MONEY FROM ISLANDERS. IF IT WASN'T FOR THE KINDNESS OF SOME RESIDENTS SUCH AS MELISSA DAVIS, RON , CLEARING SPACE ON PROPERTY, ADJOINING THE FERRY LANDING, AND OPENING UP FREE PARKING FOR RESIDENTS, WE WOULD ONCE AGAIN SEE ISLANDERS HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN PAYING FOR PARKING FEES IN LIEU OF PAYING FOR BILLS OR FOOD. AS YOU ALL DEBATE AND TRY TO SOLVE THIS VERY SITUATION. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS DEBATE HAS VERY REAL WORLD CONSEQUENCES FOR A POPULATION WHOSE WAY OF LIFE IS ONLY MADE POSSIBLE BY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL REFER THIS TO THE APPROPRIATE PERSON, BETH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. ARNOLD, YOU'RE ON YOUR HONORABLE ARNOLD BROWN, CPO PINE ISLAND. HE LOVES TO TALK TO US. HE CAME TO CHECK. THANK YOU FOR COMING FROM DUSKY, BY THE WAY. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UH, GOOD EVENING. AND JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL ONCE AGAIN FOR THEIR SERVICE. I, I CAN IMAGINE IT'S NOT DIFFICULT. UH, IT'S NOT EASY, BUT IT COULD BE DIFFICULT AT TIMES. , IT'S NOT DIFFICULT. SAY WHAT? YEAH. UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR UPHOLDING THE, THE ZONING, UH, CURRENT ZONING, UH, OF ST. HENA ISLAND AND SUPPORTING THE, UH, 1990 CPO AND NOT VIOLATING SPOT ZONING, THE SPOT ZONING LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA. UM, AS I SAID IN BLUFFTON, WHEN I CAME TO THE BLUFFTON MEETING, UH, AT A LITTLE BIT TO IT, I'VE BEEN IN MANAGEMENT ALL MY LIFE, OKAY. SINCE, PROBABLY SINCE I'VE BEEN 16 YEARS OLD. I'VE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEONE ELSE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NEEDED IS GOOD DATA, GOOD INFORMATION. MR. CUNNINGHAM MENTIONED INFORMATION, FACTS, TRANSPARENCY. AND I'M CONCERNED THAT THE COUNCIL HAS NOT ALWAYS GOTTEN GOOD DATA, GOOD INFORMATION IN ORDER TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. AND I BROUGHT THAT UP AT BLUFF BLUFFTON. IF ANYONE MAKES, WANNA MAKE A COMMENT, THAT'S FINE. UM, LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING, THIS TO LET YOU KNOW, THE PETITION THAT WE HAD HAD, UH, POSTED HAS, AS OF THIS TODAY, 12,578. UH, SIGN UP SIGNEE, MS. GARDENIA, WHO I, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT SHE WAS GONNA BE HERE TONIGHT. MS. GARDENIA WHITE, WHO'S SITTING RIGHT HERE, WHEN SHE SPOKE BEFORE THE COUNCIL, A COUPLE OF MONTHS, A MONTH OR SO AGO, SOMEONE PUT THAT ON FACEBOOK. SHE HAS HAD OVER 145,000 VIEWS, NOT, NOT 14,000, 145,000 VIEWS ON FACEBOOK. UH, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST TREMENDOUS. SHE, SHE HAS, UH, OVER 44,000, UM, SHARES OR, OR LIKES AND 5,000 FOLLOWERS. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO LET YOU KNOW THAT PENN CENTER IS FULLY BEHIND, UH, SUPPORTING THE CPO OF 1995. WE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND THAT 'CAUSE WE WANNA SUPPORT THE CITIZENS OF THE, OF THE AREA. UM, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS TO THE COUNCIL IS BEWARE OF, AND MAYBE THE, THE WORD, UH, MERCENARY IS NOT PROPER. MAYBE IT'S, UH, LOBBYIST. BUT BE BE AWARE OF SOME PEOPLE THAT COME BEFORE YOU AND SUPPORT THE GOLF COURSE AND THE GATED COMMUNITY. SOME OF THESE FOLKS ARE LOBBYISTS. THEY'RE BEING PAID. I SUSPECT THAT THEY'RE BEING PAID FOR THEIR POSITION. AND, UH, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN YOU HAVE TO WEIGH WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY SAY. SO I'M GONNA FINISH EARLY, 20 SECONDS EARLY. THAT'S GREAT. GREAT HONOR. THANK YOU. THAT'S A RECORD FOR YOU, BY THE WAY. VERY, VERY WELL DONE. THANK YOU, MS. WHITE. I'M HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR GROWING FAN CLUB. THAT'S JUST REMARKABLE. 145,000 VIEWS, ARNOLD. UNBELIEVABLE. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. OKAY. THAT, UH, THAT WRAPS IT UP FOR US HERE AND NOW WE [EXECUTIVE SESSION] ARE GOING TO ADJOURN BRIEFLY, UH, TO, UM, EXECUTIVE SESSION WHERE WE WILL DISCUSS MATTERS, UH, REGARDING RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE, WHERE THE ADVICE RELATES TO MATTERS COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE. UM, ALSO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE WHERE IT RELATES TO PENDING LITIGATION AND LEGAL ADVICE WHERE THE ADVICE RELATES TO POTENTIAL LITIGATION, AS WELL AS THE MOTION I MADE RELATING TO EMPLOYMENT, APPOINTMENT, COMPENSATION, PROMOTION, DEMOTION, DISCIPLINARY RELEASE OF A PERSON REGULATED BY A PUBLIC BODY. SO IF YOU'LL EXCUSE US, I'LL MOVE MR. QUESTION. SECOND. MOTION. [01:20:01] I GUESS I WILL, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION. NONE. OBJECTIONS? NONE. WE'RE GOING, TOM, WE'RE GOING. DON'T HAVE TO SIT DOWN. DO CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. MOTION TO EXTEND ? NO, NOT JUST WAITING FOR OUR OTHER MEMBERS TO JOIN US. VOTE NO. EVERYBODY HERE. OKAY. I'M JUST TO ANNOUNCE THE EXECUTIVE, UH, SESSION HAS ENDED AND THERE IS NO ACTION THAT IS NECESSARY. ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO DO TO CLOSE THAT OUT? THEN I'LL JUST ADJOURN THE MEETING. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.