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I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OCTOBER 3RD
[1. Call to Order]
TOWN COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JOIN AND SIGN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I'D LIKE TO LEAVE ALLEGIANCE TO I, THE UNITED STATES, AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH THE LITURGY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
IF YOU'LL CONTINUE STANDING AS NATHAN REVEREND NATHAN FURE COMES FORWARD AND IS AN INVOCATION, MAYOR PERRY PERIAN TOWN COUNCIL, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
LORD JESUS, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TODAY.
AND GOD, I PERSONALLY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THOSE IN THIS ROOM, FOR THOSE THAT ARE GATHERED IN FRONT OF ME, LORD, THOSE THAT YOU HAVE PLACED IN POSITIONS OF INFLUENCE AND LEADERSHIP, GOD, THAT THAT LEADERSHIP IS A BURDEN AND THAT BURDEN IS A GIFT.
AND SO, GOD, I PRAY THAT IS THERE ARE DELIBERATIONS AND DECISIONS AND EVALUATIONS THAT WE WOULD REMEMBER THE WORDS IN PROVERBS FOUR, SEVEN.
THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM IS THIS, GET WISDOM AND WHATEVER YOU GET, GET INSIDE, PRIZE HER HIGHLY, AND SHE WILL EXALT YOU.
IF YOU EMBRACE HER, SHE WILL PLACE ON YOUR HEAD A GRATEFUL, GRACEFUL GARLAND.
SHE WILL BESTOW ON YOU A BEAUTIFUL CROWN.
AND LORD, I PRAY THAT AS THEY CONTINUE TO LEAD IN WISDOM, THAT YOU WILL GIVE FROM ON HIGH, THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO CREATE IN THIS PLACE A, A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND VISIT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME.
WE PRAY THIS ALL THROUGH THE POWER OF YOUR SPIRIT INTO THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
SPEAKERS, FIRE MARSHAL'S NOT AROUND ANYWHERE.
[4. Adoption of the Agenda]
ORLANDO, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA, PLEASE? YES, SIR.UH, MAYOR, COUNSEL, QUIET PLEASE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD ITEM FIVE C, PRESENTATION OF COMMENDATIONS FOR THE 360 40 COMMITTEE MEMBER IN THE CELEBRATION.
AND IS THERE FIVE C? AND THERE'S ALSO AN ANOTHER ONE UNDER RECOMMEND FOR, UM, PRESENTATIONS.
ITEM FIVE D UM, REGARDING, UH, BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH.
IS THERE MOVE TO AMEND THE AGENDA AS PROPOSED? SECOND.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SECOND FIVE BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[5. Presentations and Recognitions]
OF THE TOWN MANAGER.A COUPLE THINGS TO, A COUPLE THINGS TO, UM, TALK ABOUT TODAY ARE TOWN'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION.
UH, WE, WE WERE NOTIFIED ON SEPTEMBER 28TH THAT THE TOWN HAS RECEIVED FULL ACCREDITATION FROM THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACCREDITATION PROGRAM, EAP, AS, AS THEY CALL IT, UM, EAP P'S AN INDEPENDENT NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT FOSTERS EXCELLENCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS BY ESTABLISHING CREDIBLE STANDARDS APPLIED IN A PEER REVIEW ACCREDITATION PROCESS.
UH, THE PROCESS BEGAN WITH A YEAR LONG SELF-EVALUATION.
SO FOR THE LAST YEAR WE WERE WORKING ON THIS, UM, SELF-EVALUATING WHERE THE TOWN STAFF THROUGH TOM DUNN'S LEADERSHIP, UM, DOCUMENTED HOW WE MEET 66 DIFFERENT STANDARDS.
THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE WERE PROVIDED OVER 300 REFERENCE DOCUMENTS AS VERIFICATION OF, WE PROVIDED OVER 300 REFERENCE DOCS AS VERIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARDS.
SO WHAT, WHAT A, WHAT A GREAT AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN.
THEN EMAP COMPLETED A WEEK LONG SITE VISIT TO REVIEW OUR DOCUMENTATION, OUR FACILITIES INTERVIEW STAFF, AND DETERMINE IF INDEED WE'VE MET THEIR, THEIR HIGH STANDARDS.
THE TOWNS THE ONLY, THE THIRD EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IN THE STATE TO RECEIVE THIS ACCREDITATION AND THE SMALLEST IN THE US BASED UPON COMMUNITY POPULATION.
SO, UM, WITH, WITH WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, TOM DUNN AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF BLANKENSHIP.
JUST A GREAT TEAM AND VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF THAT.
SO TOM SUNDAY, IS TOM IN HERE? THERE HE IS.
TOM PRESENTED AT OUR ANNUAL MUNICIPAL TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE, SEPTEMBER 20TH TO THE 22ND.
TOM'S A BOARD MEMBER OF THE MUNICIPAL TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION AND IS SERVING AS PAST PRESIDENT.
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WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? WE HAVE A LEADER IN AMONGST LEADERS IN THE ROOM WITH US, AND HE IS OUR TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DIRECTOR AND HE JUST CONTINUES TO DO A GREAT JOB, JUST NOT INTERNALLY, BUT EXTERNALLY AMONGST HIS PEERS AND IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.SINCE THE UPDATE AND RELAUNCH OF OUR WEBSITE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE'VE RECEIVED MANY AWARDS, UM, FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT WEB PROFESSIONALS.
SO THIS YEAR WE WON TWO AWARDS, THE 2023 PINNACLE AWARD, WHICH IS THE CITY COUNTY SMALL POPULATION GROUP AND THE 2023 MEMBERS CHOICE AWARD IN THE SAME CATEGORY.
SO AGAIN, UM, ANGIE, YOUR TEAM RENEE, EVERYBODY REALLY, THIS IS DEFINITELY AN ORGANIZATION EFFORT, BUT DEFINITELY GREAT LEADERSHIP AND THANKS AND GREAT JOB AND MAYOR, THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
SO OCTOBER IS BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH, UH, NEARLY ONE IN EIGHT WOMEN AND ONE IN 833 MEN ARE EXPECTED TO CONTRACT BREAST CANCER IN THEIR LIVES.
SO TO HELP SHINE A LIGHT ON THIS IMPORTANT CAUSE AT NATIONAL MAMMOGRAPHY DAY, WHICH IS OCTOBER 19TH, WE ARE ASKING TOWN COUNCIL AND TOWN STAFF WEAR PINK.
ON THE DAY OF OUR NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 17TH, ANYONE WHO ATTENDS THIS MEETING IS ALSO WELCOME TO JOIN AND TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR WOMEN AND MEN WHO ARE BATTLING, WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES TO BREAST CANCER.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
MAYOR, IF, IF YOU MIGHT, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON FROM THAT, UM, MATTER PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, MY SISTER IS A BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR, UM, AND I'VE HAD OTHER FRIENDS WHO'VE BEEN BATTLING BREAST CANCER.
SO I'LL BE WALKING ON OCTOBER 21 AND THE PLEDGE, THE PINK WALK WITH, UH, VOLUNTEERS IN MEDICINE.
IT'S CALLED VIM AND VIGOR AT, UH, JARVIS CREEK PARK STARTING AT 9:00 AM AND IT'S MY HONOR TO, UH, RECOGNIZE MY SISTER AND OTHER BREAST CANCER SURVIVORS AND BATTLERS IN THAT WALK.
AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO, LET'S SEE, LEMME MAKE SURE I'M RIGHT HERE.
FOLLOW UP MARSHALL, UH, BATTALION FIRE CHIEF MARSHALL BATTALION, CHIEF RUSSELL ROGERS THE REST OF MY COME ON IN FIRE WEEK CONFIRMATION.
WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HILL, MEADOW ISLAND IS COMMITTED TO ENSURING SAFETY AND SECURITY OF ALL THOSE LIVING IN AND VISITING OUR TOWN.
AND WHEREAS COOKING IS A LEADING CALL TO HOME FIRES IN THE UNITED STATES AND TWO OF EVERY FIRE HOME FIRES START IN THE KITCHEN WITH 31% OF THESE FIRES RESULTING FROM UNATTENDED COOKING.
AND WHEREAS HILTON HEAD ISLAND RESIDENTS SHOULD TURN POT HANDLES TOWARD THE BACK OF THE STOVE, ALWAYS KEEP A LID NEARBY WHEN COOKING, KEEP A THREE FOOT KID FREE ZONE AROUND THE STOVE OVEN AND OTHER THINGS THAT COULD GET HOT.
WATCH WHAT THEY HEAT, SET A TIMER TO REMIND THEM THEY ARE COOKING.
AND WHEREAS RESIDENTS WHO HAVE PLANNED AND PRACTICED A HOME FIRE ESCAPE PLAN ARE MORE PREPARED AND WILL THEREFORE BE MORE LIKELY TO SPOT A FIRE.
AND WHEREAS WORKING SMOKE ALARMS CUT THE RISK OF DYING IN REPORTED HOME FIRES ALMOST IN HALF.
AND WHEREAS HILTON HEAD ISLAND FIRE RESCUE FIRST RESPONDERS ARE DEDICATED TO REDUCING THE OCCURRENCE OF HOME FIRES AND HOME FIRE INJURIES THROUGH PREVENTION AND PROTECTION EDUCATION.
WHEREAS THE 2023 FIRE PREVENTION WEEK THEME, COOKING AND SAFETY STARTS WITH YOU PAY ATTENTION TO FIRE PREVENTION EFFECTIVELY SERVE TO REMIND US TO STAY ALERT AND USE CAUTION WHEN COOKING TO REDUCE THE RISK OF KITCHEN FIRES.
NOW THEREFORE, I, ALAN R. PERRY, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF MILTON HEAD ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 8TH TO 14TH 2023 AS FIRE PREVENTION WEEK.
AND I URGE ALL PEOPLE OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND TO CHECK THEIR KITCHENS FOR FIRE HAZARDS AND USE SAFE COOKING PRACTICES DURING FIRE PREVENTION WEEK 2023 AND TO SUPPORT THE MANY PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIVITIES AND EFFORTS OF HILTON VIOLENT HILTON HEAD ISLAND FIRING RESCUE AND TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I HEAR UNTO SET MY HAND CONCEALED CROSS THE SEAL THE DAY OF HILTON HEAD
I NEED A GLASS OF WATER WHERE IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF I HERE UNTO SET MY HEAD AND CAUSE THIS SEAL OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND TO BE AFFIXED ON THIS THIRD DAY OF OCTOBER, THE YEAR OF OUR LORD, 2023.
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I'M MASON DOWN THERE.SO STAND UP THERE FOR A COUPLE MINUTES AND TRY TO READ ALL THAT AT ONCE IT GET YOUR GET YOUR TONGUE GOING,
NOW PRESENTATION OF ACCOMMODATIONS OF 360 40 COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL MONTH EVENT FOR THE 360 40 CELEBRATION, WHICH CONSISTED OF A COMMUNITY PICNIC COMMUNITY CONCERT CONCERT FEATURING LOW CASH AS THE HEADLINER.
IN ADDITION TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, G M L L C WITH SUPPORT FROM B M I RECORDS, WHO ASSISTED WITH OUR FIRST ANNUAL HILTON HEAD ISLAND JAM SONGWRITER SONG FESTIVAL, WE HELD A VARIETY OF SPECIAL TOURS, EVENTS AND EXPERIENCES, WHICH PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO DIG DEEPER INTO THE RICH HISTORY CULTURE AND PEOPLE THAT MAKE HILTON HEAD ISLAND SUCH A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE.
NOW, IF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD TO ACCEPT, ACCEPT A COPY OF THE ACCOMMODATION PREPARED FOR YOU, MAJOR SMITH CHAIR, NATALIE HARVEY, CO-CHAIR, KEVIN TILA, LINDA SEAMAN, KAREN BANO, RENEE TUTTLE, CATHERINE THORN, CAROLYN GRANT, TAYLOR LADD, PHYLLIS DIETER, RASHNA PERRY, LEAH ARNOLD, JORDAN WEBER, JOE KANE, HEATHER WRATH, CAITLYN LEE, ROBIN SWIFT, ALLIE MARTIN, JOHN CRANFORD, AND ANGIE STONE.
WE ALSO HAVE REBECCA JEFFRIES HERE FROM THE ART LEAGUE OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, WHO LED THE CREATION OF A HAPPY BIRTHDAY PAINTING FOR THE THE TOWN'S 40TH ANNIVERSARY.
THE PAINTING WAS CREATED AT THE COMMUNITY PICNIC BY THOSE IN ATTENDANCE, AND SHE IS HERE TO PRESENT IT TO THE TOWN.
ALL RIGHT, SO, UM, MY NAME IS KRISTEN MCINTOSH.
I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ART LEAGUE OF HILTON, AND THIS IS AMY WORMAN, OUR ACADEMY MANAGER.
UM, AS PART OF THE TOWN'S 360 40 COMMITTEE PI COMMUNITY PICNIC, WE ASKED, UM, ANYBODY THAT CAME TO OUR TABLE OR BOOTH TO PAINT ON OUR SIGN TO WISH HILTON HAD HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND WE WANTED TO GIVE IT TO YOU ALL TODAY AS A THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE NONPROFITS OF US AND ALSO, UM, JUST OUR GENERAL INGREDIENTS WITH THE COMMUNITY SPIRIT AND SUPPORT THAT THE HILTON HEAD GIVES OF THE ARTS.
WE HAD PROBABLY ABOUT 40 CHILDREN OF ALL.
[6. Appearance by Citizens]
OKAY.UM, CITIZENS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER FOR, UH, NOT FOR BEING DISCUSSED DURING THE MEETING MAY DO SO BY SUBMITTING A REQUEST WHICH HAVE BEEN DONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS THAT SECTION TWO DASH FIVE DASH 70 OF THE TOWN'S CODE LIMITS EACH PERSON TO THREE MINUTES WHEN ADDRESSING TOWN COUNCIL.
AT THE END OF THE THREE MINUTES, YOU'RE ASKED TO CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS.
PLEASE MAINTAIN IT DECORUM SUITABLE FOR THE MEETING AND REFRAIN FROM USING ANY PROFANE, ABUSIVE, OR OBSCENE LANGUAGE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY MATERIALS YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TO TOWN COUNCIL, PLEASE GIVE TO THEM TO THE PLEASE GIVE TO THE TOWN CLERK AFTER YOU'RE FINISHED SPEAKING.
SO IF YOU HAVE SIGNED UP FOR ANY ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, YOU WILL BE CALLED TO SPEAK AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
KIMBERLY, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE DO.
UM, FIRST WE'VE GOT SKIP HOAGLAND, SKIP HOAGLAND, WINDMILL HARBOR.
EVERYONE ASKS WHY I NOW USE A POWER OF ATTORNEY, A P O A TO PRESENT A FELLOW CITIZENS' PUBLIC COMMENT ALONG WITH MY OWN FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES SPEAKING TIME.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE REASONS FOR DOING SO, AND I ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO THE SAME.
IN MY CASE, IT'S A NONPROFIT CHAMBER IS FREQUENTLY ALLOWED 20 MINUTE PRESENTATIONS TO THE TOWN COUNCIL, AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME AND OTHER CITIZENS TO GIVE A PROPER OPPOSING VIEWPOINT TO THEIR DOG AND PONY SHOWS SEEKING MILLIONS IN ILLEGAL TAX FUNDING ON THIS ISSUE ALONE, I REALLY NEED MORE THAN SIX MINUTES.
I WILL APPLY ON HOW TO REPLACE THIS LEGAL CHAMBER'S, D M O IN 2024, AND I WILL GET MY 20 MINUTES TO PRESENT.
ALSO, MANY GROUPS SUCH AS 2 78 CORRIDOR COMMITTEE, WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND OTHERS WHO ALSO WANT TO RECEIVE 15 TO 20 MINUTE PRESENTATIONS COULD ACCOMPLISH THIS WITH FIVE
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OR SIX PEOPLE ASSIGNING THEIR POAS TO ONE SPOKEPERSON.TO PRESENT THIS MORE EFFECTIVELY, WE ALL SIT HERE AND OFTEN LISTEN TO LONG PRESENTATIONS BY THIS TOWN THAT HAVE NO TRANSPARENCY ON WHERE AND HOW OUR TAX MONIES JUST DISAPPEAR.
THE OTHER REASON IS MANY PEOPLE FEAR PUBLIC SPEAKING, AND NOW MANY WHO DON'T FEAR PUBLIC SPEAKING DO FEAR BECAUSE THEY MIGHT GET SUED FOR DEFAMATION BY PUBLIC OFFICIALS WHO COULD RES WHAT YOU WOULD RESULT IN AGAINST THE, THE, THE, THE, THE PUBLIC.
IN VERY EXPENSIVE LAWSUITS THAT HAPPENED TO ME, THIS RESULTED IN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LEGAL FEES FOR ME AND NOW A $50 MILLION JUDGMENT AGAINST ME BY MURDOCH LAWYERS.
WE'VE ALL HEARD OF MURDOCH MAYOR LISA SULKIN, BLUFFTON, KIM LICHENS, AND HILTON HEAD AND THE CHAMBER INVOLVED IN THIS.
THESE TYPES OF MALICIOUS FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS ACTUALLY VIOLATE YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
AND EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE INNOCENT, YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY THE LAWYERS TO DEFEND YOU.
THESE SUITS COULD BANKRUPT MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
CITIZENS ALSO FEAR INTERRUPTIONS TO THEIR SPEECH THOUSAND DOLLARS CITATIONS AND EVEN REMOVAL BY POLICE FORCE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE UGLY TRUTH AND FACTS ON THEIR CORRUPTION.
A CITIZEN HAS THE LEGAL RIGHT UNDER THE FEDERAL LAW TO COMPLETE THEIR CIVIL, LEGAL, FREE SPEECH UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND USE LOCAL P O P O A DOCUMENTS TO SPEAK ADDITIONAL THREE MINUTES ON BEHALF OF ANYONE THEY WISH OR PRESENTATION FOR A CERTAIN GROUP.
LAST, AND MOST IMPORTANT, BY USING P O A, I DISCOVERED A LEGAL WAY TO OBTAIN THREE MINUTE EXTRA SPEAKING TIME FOR THOSE WHO SHARE MY PASSION FOR FIXING SLOPPY, NON-TRANSPARENT, ILLEGALLY OPERATED CHAMBERS AND GOVERNMENT.
I'M FORTUNATE I CAN HIRE DEFENDANT AND PROTECT MYSELF AND MY FAMILY FROM MALICIOUS, FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS, AND I CAN DEMONSTRATE IN A COURT OF LAW THAT I AM RIGHT AND WIN, AND I CAN TAKE THIS ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I INTEND ON DOING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
DID YOU SAY LYNN GREELEY? MR. HOAGLAND, AS WE HAVE STATED BEFORE, THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE NORM AND WE DO NOT ALLOW YOU TO STACK YOUR TIME TO SPEAK.
AND IF YOU DO, YOU'LL BE GOING AGAINST OUR ORDINANCE AND WE'LL FACE THAT CITATION.
PERRY, YOU HAVE THE GALL TO INTERRUPT MY TIME RIGHT THEN AND SAY I WILL BE ISSUED A THOUSAND DOLLARS CITATION, 12 TOTAL FOR MY RIGHTFUL THREE MINUTE SPEECHES FOR SOMEONE ELSE WITH A P O A YET YOU SIT UP THERE AND YOU LIE ON BEHALF OF THE CHAMBER CROOK, BILL MILES AND HIS BUDDY BOARD AND HIS LAWYERS AND ALL THESE CRONIES BEHIND HIM, I'M CALLING FOR YOUR REMOVAL AS MAYOR BY AUTHORITIES FOR YOUR FRAUD AND YOUR MALFEASANCE.
LET'S MAKE A DEAL, MR. PERRY, YOU AND YOUR BUDDY MILES GIVE ME AND ALL TAXPAYERS TOTAL ACCESS TO THE CHAMBER'S ACCOUNTING AND HAVE THEY USE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX FUNDS UNDER FO LAW AND DO ALL CHAMBER MEMBERS UNDER THE NONPROFIT CORPORATION ACT LAW.
IF YOU DO THAT, I WILL SIT DOWN, I WILL NOT MAKE ANY MORE THREE MINUTE COMMENTS, AND IN FACT, I WILL NEVER ATTEND ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING EVER AGAIN.
WHAT I ALSO WANT TO KNOW TODAY IS WHY OVERPAID PROVIDED.
WHAT I ALSO WANNA KNOW IS, UH, IS WHY THE, THE, THE, THE CORRUPT TOWN LAWYERS DRAFTED A FRAUDULENT D M O CHAMBER CONTRACT WITH BILL MILES, ALONG WITH A CROOKED BLUFFTON TOWN LAWYER TERRY FINGER THAT ORLANDO WAS INVOLVED IN ONE TIME.
WHY DID ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS UNANIMOUSLY VOTE IN FAVOR OF MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL TAX FUNDING TO THE CHAMBER AND BILL MILES FULLY KNOWING IT WAS ILLEGAL AND WORSE ALLOWED BILL MILES TO TELL YOU WAS HIS SECRET SAUCE AND IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS? HOW LONG HAS THIS COUNCIL'S MALFEASANCE AND INSANITY GOING TO CONTINUE? DOES THIS DEMONSTRATE FITNESS FOR PUBLIC SERVICE? THIS CONDUCT WOULD EVEN QUALIFY TO RUN YOUR OWN FAMILY'S BANK ACCOUNTS.
GIVE ME ONE REASON HOW YOU JUSTIFIED THIS ONGOING TAX SCAM FRAUD AND THI TO TAXPAYERS WHO TRUSTED YOU, MR. PERRY, YOU AND THIS COUNCIL FULLY KNOWING YOU ARE HELPING TO FACILITATE ONGOING SECRECY AND TAX THEFT ON HOW MILLIONS SPENT BY YOUR BUDDY MILES MAKES YOU AS GUILTY AS HIM.
IT'S CALLED ACCESSORY BEFORE THE FACT AND ACCESSORY BEFORE THE FACT IS A PERSON WHO AIDS AB BETTS AND ENCOURAGES ANOTHER TO COMMIT A CRIME, BUT IS ALSO NOT PRESENT AT THE SCENE, AN ACCESSORY BEFORE THE FACT, LIKE AN ACCOMPLICE MAY BE HELD CRIMINALLY LIABLE TO THE SAME EXTENT AS A PRINCIPLE.
MANY JURISDICTIONS REFER TO AN ACCESSORY BEFORE THE FACT AS AN ACCOMPLICE.
I LEAVE THAT WITH ALL ALL OF YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT REAL HARD 'CAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS ILLEGAL AND YOU KNOW IT, AND YOU'VE, WE DID NOT ELECT YOU FOR THAT.
YOU WERE ELECTED TO PROTECT OUR TAX MONIES AND DO THINGS RIGHT AND HONESTLY, AND YOU'RE NOT DOING IT AND YOU GOTTA DO IT.
DID YOU SAY REITS? REITS, YES.
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THAT.LISTEN, UH, TOM REITS, UH, YOUR HONOR, HOW YOU DOING COUNSEL? MR. ORLANDO? UM, THIS IS MY SECOND TIME COMING BEFORE THIS INCREDIBLE COUNSEL IN THIS INCREDIBLE ROOM OF, I'M NOT GONNA BE RUDE, BUT I WANT TALK TO THESE PEOPLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW IT, BUT I'M ON COUNTY COUNCIL.
I'M ON THEIR, YOU KNOW, I'M THEIR COUNTERPART IN THE COUNTY AND ONE THING I SAID I'D LIKE TO DO WAS TO TRY TO WORK TOGETHER.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING.
I THINK THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY ARE TOGETHER, REALLY COMING TOGETHER TO, UM, TRY TO FIX THAT.
AND ONE PIECE OF THE PIE IS THIS.
I THINK IT'S GONNA COME UP LATER TODAY, A VOTE FOR THE OFFICE PARK.
AND I WANNA COMMEND THIS COUNCIL TO GET IT TO THIS POINT.
I ALSO, IS DAVID DESPAIN HERE? IS HE HERE? DID HE STAND UP PLEASE? MR. RES? YES.
WE, WE WE KEEP WE DON'T DO THAT.
IT'S ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AND I'LL LEARN, I PROMISE YOU, UM, TO ADDRESS COUNSEL.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I SUPPORT THIS POSITION.
WE HAVE A PRIVATE CITIZEN, A RESIDENT THAT'S GONNA SPEND HIS OWN MONEY ON BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN DISREPAIR FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG HE'S GONNA CREATE UNIVERSITY HOUSING.
HE'S GONNA CREATE AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND IT'S MY HUMBLE OPINION THAT THIS SHOULD BE UNANIMOUS VOTE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT IT TODAY, PLEASE EDUCATE US AS TO WHY THIS WOULDN'T BE, UH, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
UM, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT PIECES TO THE PUZZLE ON HOW TO, UH, AFFECT WORKFORCE HOUSING, HOUSING.
IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A HUNDRED YEARS, AND YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S JUMPING THROUGH HOOPS THAT HAS DONE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING OR PROBABLY MORE THAN WHAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A FOUR TO THREE VOTE LAST TIME TO GET IT TO THIS POINT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S SHOCKING TO ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM FOR HOW MANY YEARS AND WE GOT SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY, UM, TO BUILDINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN USED FOR A LONG TIME.
SO I THINK IT'S A TOTAL OF, AND AGAIN, EDUCATE ME IF I'M WRONG, 132 UNITS TOTAL, 16 TO THE UNIVERSITY FOR THEIR USE.
SOMETHING TO DO WITH PARKING SPACES AND 116 WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE FOR WHATEVER THAT A M I IS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND I ALSO HEARD THAT THERE'S NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITH THIS.
SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE, MAYBE THE PEOPLE HERE RIGHT NOW, JUST LET THESE PEOPLE KNOW RIGHT NOW WHEN I FINISH, IF YOU SUPPORT THIS OR NOT.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
WHOEVER YOU WANT, DON'T LISTEN.
SO, UM, THIS IS NOT A THEATER FOR SHOWCASING.
I'M, I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU STREETS.
IT'S NOT A THEATER FOR SHOWCASING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO LET'S, LET'S KEEP IT DECORUM IN LINE.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK TODAY AND WE'VE GOT A LOT TO GET THROUGH.
SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF WE COULD DO THAT.
I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OTHERS ON THIS LIST ARE REGISTERED TO SPEAK FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS. NON AGENDA, MR. SLEDGE, IT'S, IT'S FOR AN ITEM THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE EXECUTIVE SITE THAT'S BEING, THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, NOT NOT IN OPEN FORUM.
AND I HAD PUT THIS REQUEST IN YESTERDAY AND THEY TOLD ME THAT I'D BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK.
WHAT'S THE NAME? KEITH SLEDGE.
YEAH, I'VE GOT YOU ON THE LIST.
I'M, I'M REGISTERED AS COME ON UP, MS. SLEDGE.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF AND WITH THE EXPRESS PERMISSION AND SUPPORT OF 33 PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE BRADLEY CIRCLE COMMUNITY.
OBVIOUSLY, ALL PROPERTY OWNERS CANNOT ATTEND EACH PUBLIC MEETING, BUT THEIR VOICES MUST BE HEARD, ESPECIALLY RELATING TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION TODAY CONCERNING THE APPLICATION OF THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE.
THIS DOCTRINE WAS TESTED BY THE SUPREME COURT IN 1979, AND THERE'S BEEN NO SUBSEQUENT LAW PASSED TO AFFECT THE ISSUES THAT WERE SETTLED BY THE COURT AT THAT TIME IN SHERMAN VERSUS VISS.
THE SUPREME COURT STATED IT WOULD BE LITERALLY, IT WOULD BE UTTERLY ILLOGICAL TO HOLD THAT AFTER A ZONING COMMISSION HAS PREPARED A COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OR AN AMENDMENT THERE TOO, WHICH WAS ON FILE AND OPEN TO PUBLIC INSPECTION.
AND UPON WHICH PUBLIC HEARINGS HAVE BEEN HELD.
AND WHILE THE ORDINANCE WAS UNDER CONSIDERATION, ANY PERSON COULD MERELY COULD BY MERELY FILING AN APPLICATION, COMPEL THE MUNICIPALITY TO ISSUE A PERMIT WHICH WOULD ALLOW HIM TO ESTABLISH A USE WHICH HE EITHER KNEW OR COULD HAVE KNOWN WOULD BE FORBIDDEN BY THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
AND BY SO DOING, NULLIFY THE ENTIRE WORK OF THE MUNICIPALITY IN ENDEAVORING TO
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CARRY OUT THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH THE ZONING LAW WAS ENACTED IN SECTION 16 DASH ONE DASH 1 0 3 B, THE ELMO'S PURPOSE AND INTENT IS TO PREVENT THE OVERCROWDING OF LAND AND TO AVOID UNDUE CONCENTRATION OF POPULATION IN THE SHERMAN CASE, THE S FORMER CRI SUPREME COURT WENT ON TO SAY AN ORDINANCE IS, IS LEGALLY PENDING WHEN A GOVERNING BODY HAS RESOLVED TO CONSIDER A PARTICULAR SCHEME OF REZONING AND HAS ADVERTISED IT TO THE PUBLIC TO INTEND THEIR INTENT TO HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON REZO REZONING.THEREFORE, ALLOWING BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED AFTER THE ADVERTISEMENT OF THE JULY 27TH, 2023 PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING WHERE THE FOUR A PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WERE FIRST PRESENTED AND PASSED IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE SUPREME COURT'S DECISION REGARDING THE PENDING ORDINANCE, WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE THIS MEETING WAS NOTICED AND ADVERTISED.
THE COURT HAS SPOKEN REPEATEDLY AND CLEARLY ON THE ISSUE.
THEREFORE, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT YOU DENY ALL BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS WHICH DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE PROPOSED FOUR A AMENDMENTS TO THE L M O UNTIL SUCH A TIME THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL COMPLETES ITS CONSIDERATION AT THE SECOND READING AND FINALIZES THEIR DECISION ON THE FOUR FOUR A AMENDMENTS TO THE L M O.
IF THE TOWN COUNCIL SEEKS TO CONFIRM ONCE AGAIN THE APPLICATION OF THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE.
IN SPITE OF THE CLEAR WRITINGS OF THE COURT ON THIS ISSUE, THE QUERY MUST BE DIRECTED TO THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY CONCERNING MATTERS OF LAW IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
THAT AUTHORITY IS THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
MY NEIGHBORS NOW ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OVER DEVELOPMENT IN ALL AREAS OF HEALTH NET ISLAND, AND WE WISH TO THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDER AND CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF THAT ISSUE TODAY.
DO WE HAVE, UH, MR. BEAR SIGNED UP? YES, I'M ALSO SIGNED UP.
I'VE GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE ON THE LIST.
JUST DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA SPEAK ON AN AGENDA ITEM VERSUS NON AGENDA ITEM.
UH, THIS IS INDEED A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE.
WHAT WE ALL WANT, A SAFE LOW CONGESTION CARTER RAPIDLY, BUT WE'RE IN A BATTLE OF SCIENCE VERSUS POLITICS.
OVER 10,000 PETITION SIGNERS BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN SOLD A POORLY WORKING KLUGE.
THEY WANT AN INDEPENDENT STUDY OVER THE PROPER SCOPE WITH PUBLIC OVERSIGHT TO PROVIDE A SECOND OPINION ON THE OTHER SIDE.
A FEW POLITICIANS ON THE GREATER ISLAND COUNCIL, A SECRET LOBBYING GROUP WITH TIES TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, HAVE FOR YEARS DIVERTED AND BLOCKED THE NEEDED STUDY.
THEY HAVE NO APPROPRIATE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE AND THEY DON'T PERMIT PUBLIC ACCESS OR TRANSPARENCY.
COUNTY COUNCIL IS ALSO NO FRIEND.
ITS LEADERSHIP IS COMPLETELY INTERTWINED WITH THE GREATER ISLAND COUNCIL, CONSTANTLY SCHEMING.
AS YOU SEE IN THE PAPER, THIS IS ONE OF MANY ARTICLES IN THE PAPER ABOUT SCHEMING.
THERE ARE SO-CALLED INDEPENDENT STUDIES ARE SHAMS CAREFULLY AVOIDING THE KEY QUESTIONS AT THE END OF 2022, THEY CONSTRAINED THE TOWN USING LAME DUCK.
G I C, MEMBERS OF THE OUTGOING TOWN COUNCIL IN 2023.
THE G I C THIS JUNE TRIED A BACKDOOR SCHEME TO ELIMINATE THE TOWN'S REMAINING CONTROL MUNICIPAL CONSENT.
THANKFULLY YOU ALL IGNORED THEM.
WE, THAT TIMING IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT THE G I C AND THEIR POLITICIANS COULD HAVE FIXED THIS STARTING IN TWO, 2020 WHEN WE FIRST TOLD THEM ABOUT IT AND ASKED THEM TO HELP.
AND ANY TIME SINCE 2 0 2 0 2 OH.
BUT THEY ORDERED AND THEIR POLITICIANS DELIBERATELY SIDETRACKED IT.
THE G I G'S PUSH FOR SPEED NOW IS ANOTHER PLOY TO TRICK YOU INTO SURRENDERING THE TOWN'S PROTECTIONS.
WHERE WAS THERE RUSH EVER SINCE 2 0 2 OH.
THE TOWN'S INDEPENDENT STUDY IS CRITICAL AND VERY WELL SUPPORTED BY THE POPULATION.
WE DESPERATELY NEED EXPERTS TO ADVISE US ON THE FOLLOWING AREAS.
ARE THERE BETTER SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM ALTERNATIVES, INCLUDING SAFETY IMPACTS AND THROUGHPUT.
WHAT DOES THE SHERIFF SAY ABOUT SAFETY AND SPEED ENFORCEMENT? HE HASN'T SPOKEN YET.
WHAT ARE THE MISSING AND HIDDEN PARTS AND COSTS AND WHO PAYS THEM RUSHING DOWN THE WRONG PATH WITH INCOMPLETE DATA? AS THE G I C IS PUSHING WASTE TIME AND MONEY, AND MAY SHORT CIRCUIT MUCH BETTER PLANS, YOU CAN SAVE THE CORRIDOR PROJECT.
THE TOWN STUDY WILL HELP TRANSPARENTLY BUILD A PLAN THAT CAN BE PROVEN TO WORK.
OUR STUDY IS MOVING MUCH TOO SLOWLY.
DON'T LET THE G I C AND THEIR CAPTIVE POLITICIANS RUN OUT THE CLOCK OR DILUTE, DIVERT OR MANIPULATE THE WORK TO TRICK US ONCE AGAIN INTO BUYING AN INCOMPLETE AND SUBSTANDARD PRODUCT.
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MR. BABEL.GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS FRANK BABEL, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF BIKE WALK HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
WE'RE AN ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS WITH A COMMUNITY AND TOWN STAFF TO HELP MAKE HILTON HEAD ISLAND SAFER AND MORE BITE FRIENDLY FOR EVERYONE.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 2011 AND, UH, UH, YOU SEE MOST EVIDENCE OF US WITH THE PEOPLE OUT IN THE PATHWAYS WHO ARE THE BIKE AMBASSADORS, SEVERAL OF WHO ARE UP THERE.
SO, UH, MY BOARD TOOK ME ASIDE AND SAID, FRANK, WOULD YOU GET OFF THE SOAPBOX AND WOULD YOU START TALKING ABOUT BIKING AGAIN? SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU KUDOS WHERE YOU DESERVE 'EM, AND TO, UH, IF THERE ARE ISSUES, TO BRING 'EM UP TO YOUR ATTENTION AND TO FOCUS AGAIN ON BIKING.
SO THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO YOU FOLKS AND TO TOWN STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY FOR SUPPORTING ALL THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT ENABLE US TO PUT TOGETHER A REALLY FIRST RATE, UH, BIKE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY APPLICATION, SPECIFICALLY IN THE TOWN.
ASHLEY GOODRICH, MISSY LUECK, UH, RICHARD EDWARDS AND OTHERS CONTRIBUTED.
UH, I PERSONALLY SUBMITTED OVER A HUNDRED PAGES, WHICH WERE SHREDDED.
BUT ANYWAY, I, WE, WE, UH, WE CONTRIBUTED A LOT AND WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LEAGUE OF AMERICAN BICYCLISTS.
I FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE QUITE SUCCESSFUL AND WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS IN DECEMBER.
UH, SO KUDOS TO YOU FOR DOING THAT.
ANOTHER THING IS THAT, UH, THANKS TO STEVE STAFF AND FOLKS IN, UH, SEA PINES, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A PATHWAY OUT OF SEA PINES SINCE I WAS A BABY.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT WHOEVER IT WAS, THE SPRINKLED HAPPY DUST ON SEA PINES, I SEE TOM SHARPERS HERE, MAY HAVE BEEN HIM, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN A PATHWAY APPEARED, THANK GOODNESS, BECAUSE IT'S A SAFE PATHWAY.
BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED BETWEEN THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE AND NOT INCENTIVES, BUT THE RIGHT ATTITUDE ABOUT DOING THINGS LIKE THIS.
AND THAT'S GONNA MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN SAFETY.
OKAY? SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TOM, C S A AND TO YOU FOLKS FOR DOING THAT JOB.
NOW, FOR ISSUES, UH, IN SHELTER COVE, THERE IS A THING CALLED A PATHWAY.
10 YEARS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO HAVE IT FIXED AND IT HASN'T WORKED.
SO WHAT THE TOWN HAS DONE, AND I AGREE WITH IS BUILT ANOTHER PATHWAY, A WORLD CLASS PATHWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SHELTER CALLED LANE.
SO WHAT'S GONNA BE BUILT, UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS THERE'S AN ANOTHER PATHWAY ACROSS THE STREET.
IT'S NOT A PATHWAY, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU CONDEMN IT OR BUY IT THROUGH SOME SORT OF A, UH, AN EASEMENT AND CONVERT IT TO A SHOULDER.
SO NO ONE WILL EVER USE THAT AGAIN.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO.
THERE USED TO BE AN UNSPOKEN AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITIZENS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT EQUAL WEIGHT WAS GIVEN REGARDING INFORMATION COUNCIL RECEIVED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY'S WELFARE.
WHEN DID THAT CHANGE? WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE THE IDEAS AND POSITIONS OF THE GREATER ISLAND COUNCIL AND G I C GIVEN MORE CONSIDERATION THAN OTHERS EXCEPT THE CHAMBER? AND WHY ARE SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS, MEMBERS OF AN ORGANIZATION WHOSE MAIN GOAL IS TO CRAFT LEGISLATION THAT ULTIMATELY COMES BEFORE THEM? DO YOU THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THE PEOPLE? WHERE'S THE CHINESE WALL SEPARATING THE G I C FROM COUNCIL? IT'S ONE THING FOR A 5 0 1 C FOUR SOCIAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION TO LOBBY FOR THE INTER INTEREST OF THEIR INVITATION ONLY MEMBERSHIP.
IT'S QUITE ANOTHER FOR THEM TO AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE THE SAME ELECTED OFFICIALS TO WHOM THEY ARE LOBBYING AND DANGLE MEMBERSHIP INVITATIONS.
NEVERMIND THE APPALLING LACK OF JUDGMENT BY THOSE OFFICIALS WHO TOOK THEM UP ON IT.
AND WHY ARE THESE OFFICIALS USING THEIR PRIVATE EMAILS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM? IS IT BECAUSE THEY'RE CRAFTING LEGISLATION WITH THE G I C SECRETLY? AND I HAVE A FEW OF THOSE EMAILS HERE.
WHEN I SAY A FEW, I HAVE MANY WHOSE INTERESTS ARE REALLY BEING SERVED.
ONE OF THE G'S MOST VOCAL MEMBERS SAID IN AN EMAIL TO ONE OF YOU,
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OCTOBER 9TH, 2020, THAT SAID QUOTE, ONE OF THE ISSUES I TRIED TO DEAL WITH IN DRAFTING THIS CONCEPT IS THAT MUCH OF OUR COLLECTIVE EFFORT, G I C AND OTHER GROUPS, IS AIMED, AT LEAST IN MY PERCEPTION, AT BETTERING THE LIFE OF MOSTLY UPPER MIDDLE CLASS WHITE PEOPLE LIVING BEHIND THE GATES OF OUR PUDS.WELL, SO MUCH FOR SOCIAL WELFARE.
WILL YOU STATE YOUR NAME REAL QUICK? PARDON ME? MAYOR DECKARD.
[7.a. Consideration of a Proposed Ordinance 2023-07 Amending Section Title 16 of the Municipal Code of the Town of Hilton Head Island, the Land Management Ordinance, to Create a New Use Called Island Mixed-Use with the Sea Pines Circle District - Second and Final Reading - Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager, Community Development]
THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS, HAS SIGNED UP, UH, TO SPEAK ON NOTHING RELATED TO, UM, THE TWO AGENDA ITEMS WE'VE GOT COMING FORWARD? OKAY, ONTO UNFINISHED BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE 2023 DASH OH SEVEN AMENDING SECTION TITLE 16 OF THE MUNICIPAL MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE TO CREATE A NEW USE CALLED ISLANDER MIXED USE WITH THE INE CIRCLE DISTRICT.SECOND AND FINAL READING, MR. COLE, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER, THE DEVELOPMENT AFTERNOON MAYOR, COUNCIL TOWN MANAGER.
UM, PLEASURE TO BE UP HERE TO PRESENT THE SECOND AND FINAL READING OF THIS ORDINANCE TO YOU TONIGHT.
UM, IT'S, I, IT'S A LENGTHY PRESENTATION.
I'M GONNA MOVE THROUGH WITH PACE, UH, BECAUSE WE'VE COVERED A LOT OF IT, UM, IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, AND I'LL TRY TO FOCUS ON THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE, UH, WHERE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WAS REQUESTED.
AND PLEASE SLOW ME DOWN IF I MOVE TOO FAST THROUGH ANY OF IT.
UM, WE'RE HERE TO CONSIDER, UH, L M O TEXT AMENDMENT TO CREATE A NEW USE CALLED ISLANDERS MIXED USE WITHIN THE SEA PINE CIRCLE DISTRICT.
UM, THE APPLI, THERE WAS AN APPLICATION SUBMITTED, UH, FOR THIS TEXT AMENDMENT CONSIDERATION, UH, BY JOSH TILLER, WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS, UM, REQUESTING THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.
AND IT DOES HAVE APPLICATION TO THE L M O IN THE SECTIONS LISTED THERE.
INE CIRCLE DISTRICT, THE PRINCIPAL USE SECTION, USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS, USE CLASSIF CLASSIFICATIONS TYPES, AND THEN DEFINITIONS WITHIN THE L M O, THOSE DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
UM, AGAIN, A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS TEXT, BUT WANNA IN WANT TO POINT OUT THE ROBUST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT'S BEEN, UH, INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION.
UH, INITIAL REQUEST WAS RECEIVED 15 MONTHS AGO, JULY OF 2022.
UM, THERE WAS A MEETING, INITIAL DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN AUGUST, A MONTH LATER.
UH, TWO MEETINGS OF THE L M O COMMITTEE IN SEPTEMBER AND NOVEMBER, UH, OF LAST YEAR.
UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING, DECEMBER OF 2022, UH, WENT TO PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, SUBCOMMITTEE OF COUNCIL IN JANUARY OF 23.
UM, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WAS REQUESTED, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, MASSING SCALE DENSITY CONSIDERATION, UM, AND THAT INFORMATION WAS, UH, WAS DELIVERED.
UM, AND THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MET AGAIN, UM, THIS PAST JUNE A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND THEN VOTED TO ADVANCE US TO TOWN COUNCIL WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION, BUT TO HAVE FULL DISCUSSION IN TOWN COUNCIL OF THE APPLICATION.
UM, THE REQUEST AT THAT TIME HAD SOME, UM, SOME LANGUAGE CONSIDERATION INCLUDING SHARED PARKING AND ADJACENT STREET SETBACK AND USE SPECIFIC CONDITION LANGUAGE TO HAVE A FOUR BEDROOM PER, UM, DWELLING UNIT MAXIMUM AS PART OF THE USE SPECIFIC CONDITION TO REQUIRE A WORKFORCE HOUSING ELEMENTS.
AND REGARDING TERM PERCENTAGE AND AREA MEDIAN INCOME, A M I, AND THEN TO HAVE 10% FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE OR ACCOMMODATE COMMON AMENITY AREA.
UM, ON JULY 18TH OF, UH, JUST A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, TOWN COUNCIL VOTED, UH, SEVEN ZERO TO APPROVE THE TEXT AMENDMENT, UM, WITH SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.
UM, ONE WAS TO INCLUDE THE FOUR BEDROOM MAXIMUM THAT WAS, THAT CAME OUTTA COMMITTEE ONE WAS CLARIFICATION ON FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE.
UH, AND THAT DEFINITION WAS CLARIFIED AS IT'S COME FORWARD.
UM, A REQUEST TO INCREASE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PERCENTAGE TO 20% AS 15% WAS OFFERED, UM, AND THAT THE WORKFORCE WOULD NOT INCLUDE THE U THE STUDENT UNITS THAT ARE BEING PART OF A, THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF A PROPOSAL WITHIN THIS, UM, THIS NEW USE, UM, THE AM THE A M I OR AREA MEETING INCOME.
UM, AT THAT TIME, THE COUNCIL REQUEST WAS THAT IT, UH, BE UP TO 90% OF THE AREA A M I, UM, AND EXCUSE ME, AND THAT THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE IN PLACE FOR 20 YEARS FROM THE INITIAL DATE OF THE CERTI CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, WHICH MEANS WHEN SOMEONE CAN MOVE INTO THE UNIT, UM, AND THAT THOSE BE PART OF A WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT RECORDED
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WITH A DEEDED, UH, AT THE COUNTY.UM, THERE WAS ALSO A PROVISION HERE THAT ISLANDER MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT COULD UTILIZE A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT, UM, ON SHARE ON ANTI EDUCATION USE PROPERTY.
SO AS LONG, SO LONG AS THE EDUCATION USE REMAINED, UM, IN, IN USE, UM, THERE WAS ALSO AN AMENDMENT MADE TO HELP CLARIFY THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING, UH, THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT WAS THAT IT WAS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
UM, AND THAT, EXCUSE ME, IF THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD, THAT IT WOULD REMAIN WORKFORCE AND NOT BECOME AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
UM, ON AUGUST 15TH, TOWN COUNCIL, UH, VOTED FOUR THREE AS THIS CAME BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL IN AUGUST, UM, TOWN COUNCIL VOTED FOUR THREE, UM, TO APPROVE THE TEXT AMENDMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.
THERE WERE SOME, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, CONSIDERATION BY THE APPLICANT AND REQUEST FROM TOWN COUNCIL AT THE, AT THE MEETING.
UM, AND THIS IS WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON AUGUST 15TH.
UM, THERE WAS A REQUEST TO HAVE 20% WORKFORCE, UH, UNITS AS PART OF THE, OF THE, UM, THE USE SPECIFIC CONDITION THAT THE A M I OR AREA MEETING INCOME WOULD BE WITHIN 60 TO 120% OF THE AREA MEETING INCOME, UM, THAT THE WORKFORCE HOUS HOUSING UNITS, EXCLUDING THE STUDENT UNITS WOULD BE PART OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT AND SUBJECT TO A MINIMUM TERM OF 15 YEARS FOR THAT WORKFORCE DELIVERY.
UM, AND THEN ALSO A FOUR BEDROOM, UM, PER DWELLING UNIT MAXIMUM.
THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, UM, ON AUGUST 15TH, UM, BECAUSE THERE WAS DEVIATION, MATERIAL DEVIATION IN WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, HAD, UH, REVIEWED DURING THEIR PUBLIC HEARING IN THE PREVIOUS, UH, DECEMBER, AND WENT BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW OF THOSE ITEMS. PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED, UH, EACH ONE OF THOSE IN DETAIL, UM, AND VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES THAT COUNCIL, UM, HAD MADE ON IN AUGUST.
UH, JUST A REMINDER, THERE WAS A LOT OF SUPPORTING INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT WHEN THEY SUBMITTED, UH, THIS REQUEST THAT HAD LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
IT DID INCLUDE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BUILDING MASS AND SCALE AFTER THE, AFTER THE INITIAL PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE HAD MADE THOSE REQUESTS.
UM, THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST.
IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT APPROVAL OF A PRO A PROJECT.
I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT IT'S A TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST THAT SETS THE PARAMETERS FOR, UH, FOR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS NEW USE, UH, WITHIN C PINES DISTRICT.
UM, THE ISLANDER MIXED USE DEFINITION, IT'S SIMILAR TO MIXED USE, UH, DEFINITION IN OUR CODE, UH, HOWEVER THIS REQUIRES.
THAT ONE COMPONENT IS A WORKFORCE HOUSING ELEMENT COMBINED WITH OFFICE USE OR COMMERCIAL USES AS DEFINED IN OUR CODE, UM, DENSITY.
THIS AMENDMENT IS UNDEFINED, BUT GOVERNED BY, UM, DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN STANDARDS, HEIGHT, SETBACK, BUFFER, OPEN SPACE SITE COVERAGE INDEX, UM, AND FLOOR AREA RATIO, UM, AS WE'LL GET TO HERE IN A MINUTE.
AND THEN PARKING, UM, THERE'S A PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USE AT 1.5 SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT CONSISTENT WITH A MULTI-FAMILY PARKING RATIO IN OUR CODE.
AND THAT FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL ONE PER 500 GROSS FLOOR AREA.
NOW ONTO THE USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS, UM, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR AN ISLANDER MIXED USE, UH, DEVELOPMENT CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SHARED PARKING IF IT HAS ON AN EDUCATION USE OR PUBLIC PROPERTY IF IT HAS A, A STUDENT HOUSING PROVISION.
UM, THE PARK, THE WAY PARKING IS CALCULATED IS PER, UM, INDIVIDUAL USE AND A MIXED USE.
SO THERE'S AN ALLOCATION, UH, BASED ON THE COMMERCIAL OR NON-RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
AND THEN A CALCULATION BASED ON THE, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
AND UNDER THE SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SHARED PARKING FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USE, UM, ON AN EDUCATION USE PROPERTY, PROPERTY AND UNDER THIS PROVISION IS LIMITED TO 75 SPACES.
UM, THE ISLANDER MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT MUST BE ON A PROPERTY WITHIN 500 FEET, UM, MEASURED TO THE NEAREST PROPERTY LINE.
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE INCLUSIVE, THE PROPERTY DOESN'T HAVE TO SURROUND THE PROPERTY, UH, BUT ALL OR A PORTION OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN 500 FEET, UM, OF AN EDUCATION USE.
UM, A, A CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT WAS ALSO TO
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PROHIBIT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE NOT ALLOWED UNDER THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE ITEMS THAT, THAT CLARIFIED THE WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT UNDER THE USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS, IT, IT HAS TO INCLUDE 20% OF THE UNITS IS WORKFORCE HOUSING BETWEEN 60 AND 120% OF THE AREA MEDIA INCOME HAS TO HAVE A, A WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT.
UM, AND IT HAS TO REMAIN, UH, WORKFORCE PROVISION FOR 15 YEARS.
UM, THERE'S SOME OTHER DETAILS IN THIS AMENDMENT, UM, INCLUDING A MINIMUM AVERAGE UNIT SIZE OF 750 SQUARE FEET FOR, FOR EACH DWELLING UNIT.
UM, THE ISLANDER MIXED USE HAS A FLOOR AIR RATIO TO NOT EXCEED 0.68.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FEW EXAMPLES AS I, AS I MOVE THROUGH THIS.
IT INTRODUCES A NEW FEATURE SITE COVERAGE INDEX OF 50%.
AND SO ONLY, UH, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT CAN ONLY COVER UP TO 50% OF THE SITE, UM, AREA.
UM, AND THEN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THIS 10% FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE.
IT MUST BE DESIGNATED AREA THAT OFFERS OUTDOOR ACTIVE OR PASSIVE RECREATIONAL OR AND GATHERING SPACES FOR THE USE OF THE RESIDENTS.
UM, THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THE, UM, ADJACENT STREET BUFFER FOR OTHER STREETS, INCLUDING OFFICE WAY UP TO 35 FEET.
AND AGAIN, CLARIFICATION ON THE FOUR BEDROOM PER UNIT MAXIMUM.
UM, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT SEA PINE CIRCLE HAS A LOT OF, UH, ENTITLED USES BUILT IN THE CODE.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL, PUBLIC, CIVIC, INSTITUTIONAL HEALTH, COMMERCIAL, LOTS OF DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL USES, VEHICLE SALES, UH, INDUSTRIAL USE AS WELL, UM, SUCH AS SELF STORAGE.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THROUGH ENTITLEMENTS AND TRAFFIC GENERATION OR TRIP GENERATION WITH THESE USES.
UM, AND THESE ARE ALL ALREADY CODIFIED AND ENTITLED BY, RIGHT? UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE DEFINITION OF ISLANDER MIXED USE IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE TOWN'S DEFINITION OF MIXED USE EXCEPT FOR THE USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, DISCUSSED IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT FORUMS, INCLUDING TOWN COUNCIL BACK IN AUGUST.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN INE CIRCLE DISTRICT THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
UM, ALL HAVE LEVELS OF INTENSITY GOVERNED BY THE CURRENT CODE PROVISIONS, UM, AND ALL GENERATE, UM, TRAFFIC AT, AT DIFFERENT LEVELS DEPENDING ON WHAT WAS, UH, LOCATED, UM, AND DEVELOPED WITHIN THAT AREA.
UH, WORKFORCE HOUSING IS A USE ALLOWED IN SEA PINE CIRCLE DISTRICT WITH USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.
AND ISLANDER MIXED USE IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER USES IN THE SEA PINES CIRCLE DISTRICT.
UM, SORRY, A LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION, BUT, SO WHEN WE MET LAST, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, UM, THE LOCATION CRITERIA WITHIN 500 FEET OF AN EDUCATIONAL USE.
UM, WE PRESENTED THIS, THIS GRAPHIC AND THIS INFORMATION, UM, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE CONTEXT.
SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE, IN THE ILLUSTRATION U S C B PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED, UM, AND THEN THERE'S A GREEN DOTTED LINE THAT GOES AROUND.
IT'S A 500 FOOT BUFFER AROUND THE PROPERTIES.
AND IN THIS, AND, AND IN THIS BUFFER, IT IDENTIFIED 23 PARCELS THAT WERE ALL COMPLETELY WITHIN OR PARTIALLY WITHIN OR TOUCHED THAT 500 FOOT, UM, BUFFER LINE.
UM, WE ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND YOU CAN GET AN IDEA.
SO EVERY PROPERTY ON THIS LARGER GRAPHIC THAT HAS A LABEL ON IT IS OUR PROPERTIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE PART OF, THAT ARE WITHIN THAT 500 FOOT, UM, BUFFER.
UM, AGAIN, INCLUSIVE OR, OR TOUCHING.
AND TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SORT OF THE SCALE AND IMPACT OR IMPLICATION OF, OF THAT 500 FEET AND, AND, UM, PROPERTIES THAT COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OR USE THIS, UH, NEW USE SINCE THE MEETING, UH, LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT, UM, A SMALLER RA, SMALLER RADII, UM, TO SEE WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS WOULD BE.
SO, UH, WE DIDN'T GET IT ANY LARGER THAN 500, BUT WE TOOK 500 AND WENT DOWN TO 50 FOOT INCREMENTS DOWN TO 250 TO GIVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE, THE NUMBER OF PARCELS IMPACTED AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE CHANGE.
AND YOU CAN SEE IF WE REDUCED IT DOWN TO 250 FEET, UM, IT REDUCES THE IMPACT DOWN TO 12 PROPERTIES.
UM, AND A TOTAL OF ABOUT 20 ACRES.
UH, YOU CAN SEE IT WHEN YOU GO TO 300.
IT ADDS 1 3 52 MORE, 405 MORE, UM, AND ON AND ON UNTIL WE GET TO THE 23.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU REDUCE IT FROM FOUR 500 DOWN TO 4 51, PROPERTY WOULD BE REMOVED, BUT WITHIN THE 500
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FOOT RADII AND CONNECT AND, AND THE CONTACT TO THE PROPERTIES, IT'S A TOTAL OF 23 PROPERTIES AND A LITTLE UNDER 45 TOTAL ACRES, UM, THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED, EXCUSE ME, BY THIS CHANGE.UM, WE'VE LISTED THE PROPERTIES WITH A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, AND THIS WAS, UM, IT WAS ALL INCLUDED, UH, IN DELIVERY, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE ACREAGE ON THE RIGHT.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IMPACTED, UM, BASED ON THE, UH, DISTANCE REQUIREMENT GOING FROM 250, UH, TO 500 FEET.
SO I WILL SAY THE SMALLER THE DISTANCE, THE FEWER THE PROPERTIES THAT, UM, THAT COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE NEW USE IMPLICATION, UM, OR THE NEW NEW USE REQUEST, THE NEW USE REQUESTED, UH, WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL AS REQUESTED.
UM, I I WANNA POINT OUT JUST QUICKLY ON THE DENSITY.
WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION UNDER THIS NEW USE DENSITY IS NOT DEFINED BY THE TRADITIONAL, UH, DENSITY CALCULATIONS THAT WE'VE DONE HERE HISTORICALLY.
SO, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNIT IS, WAS TYPICALLY DEFINED AS NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE WITHIN THE SEA PINES DISTRICT.
IT ALLOWS 12 UNITS PER ACRE, UM, AND UP TO 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THIS DOESN'T DEFINE DENSITY IN THAT WAY.
IT DEFINES MASSING AND SCALE BY HEIGHT, SETBACK, UH, BUFFER FLOOR AIR RATIO, SITE COVERAGE INDEX, UM, AND THOSE OTHER, UH, OPEN SPACE, IMPERVIOUS, IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS GOVERN THE, THE SORT OF MAXIMUM SIZE OF, OF DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, I DO WANNA SAY THAT THIS IS NOT NEW AND THAT THE KAGEY RESORT DISTRICT HAS A, A SIMILAR PROVISION.
THERE IS NO DENSITY CAP IN, IN KAGEY AND COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE SAME, UM, DESIGN STANDARDS AND, UM, AND, AND GOVERN GOVERNING ELEMENTS, UH, HEIGHT, SETBACK, BUFFER, ON AND ON AND ON TO DEFINE THE MAXIMUM, MAXIMUM, UM, INTENSITY FOR DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE SITES.
UM, WE WENT A LITTLE DEEPER, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVALUATING A SPECIFIC PROJECT, BUT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN FLOATED.
WE WERE GIVEN A COUPLE OF CONCEPTS, UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF COMPARISON.
UM, BUT WE WERE PRESENTED WITH, WITH SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS AT A CONCEPTUAL LEVEL.
UM, WE HAD A WORKFORCE HOUSING COMMERCIAL CONVERSION CONCEPT, A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE EXISTING, UM, ENTITLEMENTS AND CALCULATIONS FOR DENSITY WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
AND THEN AN ISLANDER MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT USING THIS, UH, DIFFERENT WAY TO LOOK AT DENSITY AND USING THESE OTHER DESIGN, UM, STANDARDS TO, TO GOVERN THE MASSING AND SCALE.
UM, WE ALSO LOOKED AT SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ON THE ISLAND.
YOU CAN SEE WATER WALK ONE AND TWO OF EFFECTIVE DENSITIES OF 23 AND 27 UNITS PER ACRE.
THEY HAVE FLOOR AIR RATIOS, 1.8 AND TWO AQUA.
YOU CAN SEE THERE 19 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, 0.8, TWO F UH, F A R, AND THEN HARBORTOWN.
UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING REALISTIC IN, IN THE EVALUATION.
UM, AND UNTIL WE REALLY HAVE A, A SPECIFIC PROJECT IN LINE TO, TO REVIEW AND APPLY ALL THESE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND, AND DESIGN STANDARDS, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GONNA BE, BUT WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA, UM, UH, WITH NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAINTY, BUT A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF THE IMPACTS, UM, THAT IT WOULD HAVE ON A FEASIBILITY OF SITE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND ONE OTHER THING IS OUR CODE DOESN'T CURRENTLY DEFINE A DWELLING UNIT WITH ANY KIND OF MAXIMUM SIZE.
SO A DWELL A DWELLING UNIT COULD BE 500 SQUARE FEET.
IT COULD BE 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE ON THE NEXT SLIDE OR COMING UP HERE.
UM, SO WE LOOKED AT DENSITY AND BUILD OUT SCENARIOS WITHIN THE CINE CIRCLE DISTRICT AND CERTAINLY THE 23 PROPERTIES THAT UNDER THE 500 FEET COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS NEW CONDITIONAL USE.
UM, AS I MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING, SIX OF THE PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY NON-CONFORMING.
THEY'RE OVERBUILT FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT STANDPOINT, I WON'T NAME ONE, BUT WE HAVE ONE PROPERTY THAT'S BUILT AT 25,000 SQUARE FEET ON 1.4 OR FIVE ACRES.
UM, UNDER THE CURRENT NON-RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, THEY CAN ONLY GET 14,000, 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO THEY'RE ALREADY OVER DENSITY.
UM, SO THE INTENSITY ON THAT SITE IS IT, IT ALREADY EXCEEDS WHAT, UH, COULD HAPPEN.
THERE WERE PROPERTIES THAT HAD ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT IF THEY TOOK ADV, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT EXISTING, UM, ABILITY TO BUILD MORE.
UM, WE MADE ASSUMPTIONS THAT IT WOULD BE MORE DEVELOPMENT LIKE WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, UM, IN THESE SCENARIOS.
AND THEN WE LOOKED AT IF EACH PROPERTY WAS CONVERTED TO THE ISLANDER MIX USED FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT, WHAT WOULD THAT DENSITY INTENSITY LOOK
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LIKE AND WHAT WOULD THE TRIP GENERATION, UH, RESULT TO TRY TO LOOK AT IT FROM A COMPARATIVE STANDPOINT.AGAIN, NOT BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND GENERATE EVERY SCENARIO WITHIN THESE DISTRICTS, BUT HAVE ABILITY TO COMPARE AND FEEL SOME LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE ON THE IMPACT OF THE, OF THE POLICY CHANGE.
UM, I, I SHOWED THIS, UH, SLIDE AT THE LAST MEETING.
IT DOES PROVIDE, AGAIN, FOR MORE OF A COMPARATIVE PURPOSES, THE TRIP GENERATION AND IMPACT FROM A TRIP STANDPOINT THAT COULD OCCUR IF THE PROPERTIES WERE TO WERE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY WHERE THEY COULD BUILD MORE, UM, AS WELL AS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS NEW, UM, CONDITIONAL USE AND WHAT THAT TRIP GENERATION WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, IF, IF, IF EACH ONE OR ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE ISLANDER MIXED USE, UM, GENERALLY LOOKING AT THE TRIP GENERATIONS, UM, GENERATES LESS TRIPS THAN OTHER ENTITLED USES IF THEY WERE TO BE EXPANDED ON THESE SITES.
AND THAT'S, THAT WAS TO ME, SORT OF THE TAKEAWAY HERE.
UM, THE, THE WAY THE UNITS ARE DEFINED, THERE'S MORE UNITS, UM, BUT BASED ON ENTITLED USES THAT ALREADY EXISTS WITHIN THE SEA INE CIRCLE DISTRICT, UM, THERE ARE USES THAT COULD GENERATE SIGNIFICANT, MORE, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE TRAFFIC THAN IF, IF SOMEONE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THIS AND OUTTA THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
UM, WE LOOKED AT AGAIN, UM, RISK.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WHENEVER, WHENEVER THERE'S A CHANGE, UM, THERE IS A AMOUNT, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RISK, RIGHT? AND, AND THE, THIS POLICY CHANGE IS NOT WITHOUT RISK.
UM, BUT THE ABILITY FOR SOMEONE, UM, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A POLICY CHANGE, UM, WE'VE OUTLINED HERE, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ZONING STANDARDS IN PLACE.
THE CONDITIONS OF THE SITE MUST SUPPORT IT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER WILLING TO DO IT AND EXECUTE THE PROJECT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO IT, CONTRACTOR, BE ABLE TO DO IT, AND THEN TO DELIVER THE HOUSING.
UM, AND SO JUST TRYING TO, 'CAUSE WE HEARD A LOT OF, WELL, IF EVERY PROPERTY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT, AND, UM, AND THEN COMBINED PROPERTIES AND, UM, WHILE WE CAN, WE CAN IDENTIFY KIND OF WHAT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO OF EVERYTHING CAME TOGETHER.
UM, THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS, UM, IS, WELL, YEAH, THE REALITY OF THAT COMING TOGETHER IS RELATIVELY SMALL, BUT, BUT DO WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS SOME RISK.
BUT THIS, THIS TRIES TO DEFINE THAT.
UM, FLOOR AIR RATIO, UM, GOT A HOT TOPIC FOR TODAY, PROBABLY WE'RE COMING UP.
UM, BUT IN GENERAL, FLOOR AIR RATIO IS A RATIO OF A BUILDINGS, UM, UM, GROSS FLOOR AREA, UH, AND SIZE RELATIONSHIP TO THE AREA OF THE SITE.
IT'S A RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD CALCULATION ONCE YOU TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT YOUR FLOOR AREA OF YOUR STRUCTURE IS.
UM, FLOOR AREA RATIO IS NOT DENSITY.
IT'S A, IT'S A DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARD THAT DEFINES THE MASSING AND SCALE.
THE PROPOSAL FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE, UM, IS TO HAVE A FLOOR AIR RATIO, NOT TO EXCEED 0.68.
YOU GET A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
UM, YOU COULD HAVE 6,800 SQUARE FEET ON THE SITE.
UH, FLORA RATIO, UM, IS NOT REQUIRED FOR ANY OTHER USE IN THE CINE CIRCLE DISTRICT PRESENTLY.
AND IN OUR ENTIRE CODE, WE HAVE FLORA RATIO IDENTIFIED IN THREE OVERLAYS.
UM, BUT IT IS PART OF OUR CODE.
BUT JUST FOR THOSE OVERLAYS, WE PROVIDED SOME CONTEXT, UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND THE, AND THEIR ASSOCIATED FLUOR AIR RATIOS ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE SEABROOK AT POINT SE SEVEN, SIX ON THE LOW END AND BAYSHORE AT THREE POINT, UH, 3.69 FLUOR AIR RATIO ON THE HIGH END.
AND THEN THE, THE ONES IN BETWEEN THERE, KIND OF THE MAKE UP THAT RANGE.
UH, WE PROVIDED SOME, UH, VISUAL EXAMPLES AND I'LL FLIP THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT THIS IS SEABROOK AT 0.76.
THIS IS THE, THE HOTEL, THE, THE COURTYARD BY MARRIOTT DOWN ON SOUTH END AT 1.36.
UH, WE HAVE THE CYRUS HERE AT 0.29 AND THEN BAYSHORE AT POINT, UH, 3.69.
UM, WE THAT, SO THOSE ARE ISLAND WIDE F A.
WE LOOKED WITHIN THE SEA PINE CIRCLE DISTRICT.
THERE'S SOME EXAMPLES ON THE RIGHT OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT 500 FOOT RADIUS AND WHAT THEIR DIFFERENT F A WERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE LOW END U S C B IS, IS A RELATIVELY LOW F A R, UH, UM, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ACREAGE AND, AND THE SINGULAR BUILDING.
BUT 0.09 SPINNAKER THE HIGHEST AT 0.78.
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AND THESE ARE SOME FLOOR AIR RATIOS.THESE ARE THE, UM, THE PROPERTIES ON OFFICE WAY SIX, 10, AND 12.
YOU CAN SEE THEIR CURRENT FLOOR AIR RATIOS BETWEEN 1.1 7.276.
UM, AGAIN, THOSE WERE WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
GIVEN SOME CONTEXT, UM, I DON'T WANNA SPEND A TON OF TIME 'CAUSE THERE WASN'T A, A LOT OF DEBATE OR DISCUSSION ON THIS, BUT JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT PARKING IS A KEY COMPONENT OF ALL SITE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ABILITY TO, UH, ACHIEVE, UH, A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE.
UH, THIS ALLOWS, UH, WOULD ALLOW SHARED PARKING OFFSITE, UH, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPOUNDED UP TO 75 FEET.
AND BASED ON MIXED USE, IT'S 1.5 SPACES PER UNIT AND ONE PER 500 SQUARE FEET FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AS A PARKING REQUIREMENT, THE, THERE WAS A PROVISION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WITH, UM, WITH, EXCUSE ME, WITH COUNSEL, THAT THE PARKING, SHARED PARKING PROVISION WOULD ONLY REMAIN IN PLACE AS LONG AS THE EDUCATION USE REMAINED IN PLACE AS LONG AS THE, THE DEVELOPMENT PROVIDED STUDENT HOUSING.
SO THE QUESTIONS HAVE POPPED UP.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THE EDUCATION USE GOES AWAY? WELL, THEY, THE SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT WOULD THEN GO AWAY AND THERE'D BE NON-COMPLIANCE FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT.
THE USE WOULD HAVE TO DISCONTINUE, OR THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY AN ALTERNATIVE PARKING PLAN TO PROVIDE PARKING ON THE SITE.
NOW, THERE WILL BE PARKING ON THE SITE.
SO THEY COULD REDUCE THE LEVEL OF INTENSITY, AND I WOULDN'T SAY HAVE TO CLOSE THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO REDUCE THE LEVEL OF INTENSITY TO BE COMPLIANT FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT OR FIND PARKING ELSEWHERE.
UM, SO SHARED PARKING PLAN ALLOWS 50% OF THE PARKING TO BE OFFSITE TO SATISFY, UM, THEIR DEMAND.
UM, SHARED PARKING, UM, AGREEMENT IS NOT PART OF THE CODE CHANGE HERE.
UM, BUT IT'S PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW AND HAS TO BE, UM, HAS TO BE RECORDED WITH THE REGISTER OF DEEDS AS WE GO THROUGH, UM, THE FINAL PLAN APPROVAL CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE.
AND BEFORE WE CAN ISSUE A BUILDING PERMIT OR CERTIFICATE OF OCCU, OF OCU OCCUPANCY, UH, FOR THE UNITS.
UM, THERE I MENTIONED SITE COVERAGE INDEX AND, AND FLOOR AREA RATIO.
UM, THIS IS A, A MASSING AND SCALE THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE, ON THE, UH, VERTICAL ACCESS SITE COVERAGE INDEX.
AND, UH, FROM PO UH, FROM 17% DOWN TO A HUNDRED, YOU CAN SEE FLOOR AIR RATIO, UH, WITH DIFFERENT NUMBERS 0.25, UP TO 2.0.
THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED, OR THE AMENDMENT AND PROJECT, THE AMENDMENT IS PROPOSED TO NOT EXCEED 0.68, UM, FLOOR AIR RATIO AND, UH, 50% SITE COVERAGE INDEX.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE ONE THAT'S SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE.
THE, THE, THE ROSE COLOR IS THE INTERSECTION OF THOSE TWO, UM, DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND, AND WHILE IT'S NOT A GREAT VISUAL, IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA, UH, COMPARED TO THE OTHERS THAT ARE ON THE SCREEN OF THE COVERAGE OF THE SITE, UH, AND THE LEVEL OF INTENSITY, MASS AND SCALE, UM, RELATED, RELATED TO THE FOOTPRINT OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.
SO 50% LOT COVERAGE, WHICH MEANS IF THAT'S THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT CANNOT EXCEED THAT.
AND 0.68, WHICH MEANS THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF THE STRUCTURES COMPARED TO THE ACREAGE, UH, OR THE LOT AREA OF THE SITE.
REALLY ADDING MORE CLARIFICATION HAS TO BE FUNCTIONAL.
IT HAS TO BE OUTDOOR ACTIVE OR PASSIVE RECREATION AND GATHERING SPACE AND INCORPORATED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT UNLESS IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY, UM, MAJOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
UH, BUT IN THIS CASE, 16% OPEN SPACE IS REQUIRED AS A USE SPECIFIC CONDITION.
UM, AND SO THERE IS SOME ADD HERE FOR THE SHIP FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE, AND, UM, I'M SORRY, IT'S 10% FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE.
THERE'S NO OTHER OPEN SPACE REQUIRED FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENT AND SEA PINES.
SO IT IS AN ADDITION, UH, ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT FOR THIS, UM, FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE.
UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S INCREASE IN THE, IN THE ADJACENT STREET SETBACK, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY ARE LISTED HERE, OTHER STREETS, MI MINOR AND MAJOR ARTERIALS.
UH, FOR THIS ONE, IT INCREASES THE, UM, SETBACK TO AN AVERAGE OF 35 FEET OVER THE 20 FEET THAT'S THERE.
UM, ON THE OTHER, OTHER STREET I, AND THOSE ARE IDENTIFIED AS OFFICE WAY AND OFFICE PARK ROAD.
SO THERE IS AN INCREASE IN SETBACK, UM, FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO, UM, AND HAVE ACCESS TO OFFICE WAY WITHIN THIS
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AREA MENTIONED THE 750 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM UNIT SIZE AS A WAY TO, UH, MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF SMALL, A LOT MORE, A LOT MORE UNITS THAT ARE SMALLER.UM, SO THIS IS A WAY TO HELP CALIBRATE THAT TO, UH, TO PROVIDE SOME, UH, SOME CONDITIONS THAT, THAT HELP SHAPE THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, NOT POINTED OUT PREVIOUSLY TODAY, BUT IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UM, SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UH, THAT ARE WITHIN, UH, THAT, THAT WANNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CONDITIONAL USE, UM, ARE PROHIBITED.
SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE NOT ALLOWED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND SO THERE IS SOME PROTECTION TO NOT HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
UH, FOR THESE, UH, FOR, FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE.
I MENTIONED THE FOUR BEDROOM UNIT, UH, FOUR BEDROOM PER DWELLING UNIT MAXIMUM, WHICH WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUTTA COUNCIL.
UM, SO I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS THAT THIS ISN'T WORKFORCE HOUSING.
UM, AND, AND PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
AND SO THIS IS JUST TO COMPARE, WHAT, WHAT IS OUR, WHAT WAS OUR PREVIOUS WORKFORCE HOUSING POLICY AND WHAT IS THIS IN COMPARISON? OKAY, SO PERCENTAGE OF UNITS IN WORKFORCE HOUSING, OUR CURRENT TOWNS WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM REQUIRES 20% OF THE UNITS TO BE IN A WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT.
THE ISLANDERS MIXED USE, UM, BASED ON THE, UM, CHANGE AT THE LAST MEETING REQUIRES 20%.
SO THOSE COMPONENTS ARE THE SAME AREA MEETING INCOME.
UM, OUR ADOPTED PROGRAM IS 60 TO 80 FOR OCCUPIED UNITS OR FOR RENTAL UNITS, AND 80 TO 100 FOR OWNER, OWNER-OCCUPIED UNITS.
THIS, THIS AS AMENDED AT THE LAST MEETING IS TO, UH, TARGET 60 TO 120% AREA MEETING INCOME, EXCUSE ME.
AND THEN THE TERM OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT.
UNDER OUR CURRENT PROGRAM, THE HOUSING TERM IS 30 YEARS.
AND UNDER THIS, THAT WAS PROPOSED EXTENDS THE, UM, HOUSING TERM FROM THE PREVIOUS TENANT WAS OFFERED TO 15.
AS I MENTIONED, DENSITY, IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO LOOK AT DENSITY, MASSING, AND SCALE.
UM, AND I DO WANNA POINT OUT, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE IS A WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT THAT MUST BE EXECUTED, UM, AND, AND, AND THEN MANAGED OVER TIME FOR THE DURATION OF THAT AGREEMENT TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THESE USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.
UH, IF SOMEONE TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THIS, OF THIS USE, UM, THEIR SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION, THE 2019 HOUSING STRATEGIC STRATEGIC HOUSING PLAN, OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING FRAMEWORK, THE, THE, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, WHICH HAS IDENTIFIED WORKFORCE HOUSING AS A PRIORITY, UM, AND THE DELIVERY OF WORK OF WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, AS GOALS TO, UM, TO WORK TOWARD, UM, PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THE AREA, MEDIAN INCOME, UM, NOT BASED ON EMPLOYEE TYPE, BUT JUST THE AREA.
MEDIAN INCOME IS PUBLISHED BY HUD FOR BUFORT COUNTY.
YOU CAN SEE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF A M I FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR IS A HUNDRED HUNDRED 11,000.
UM, WE USE THAT AS THE BASELINE AND THEN CALCULATE, UH, SIXTY, EIGHTY, A HUNDRED TWENTY OFF OF, OF THAT.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE TABLE PROVIDES SOME GUIDANCE HERE BASED ON HOUSEHOLD SIZE, UM, TO DETERMINE QUALIFICATION FOR, UH, ELIGIBILITY.
UM, WE ALSO ADDED THIS IN INFORMATION TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE RENTS LIKE OUR AFFORDABLE YEAH, AFFORDABLE RENTS FOR, UM, THAT THOSE SAME, THAT SAME TARGET AREA FROM 60 TO ONE 20.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE FOR HOUSEHOLDS ONE, TWO, AND THREE PEOPLE, UM, WHAT THE AFFORDABLE RENTS ARE AT THOSE DIFFERENT RANGES.
SO LET'S SAY A, UM, HOUSEHOLD OF TWO AND A HUNDRED PERCENT A M I ON AFFORDABLE RENT IS, UH, 2226.
UM, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THERE WAS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
IT WAS AN ATTACHMENT TO THE MEMO, UH, FOR THIS MEETING AND PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
UH, THERE WAS AN ASSESSMENT OF THE CHIP GENERATION FROM RETAIL COMMERCIAL COMPONENT ON THIS SITE, AND ALSO THE, THE, UH, STUDENT, STUDENT HOUSING AND THE NON-STUDENT HOUSING.
UH, WE DID EVALUATE THAT THERE WAS NOT AN OPERATIONAL, UM, DEFICIENCY THAT RESULTED FROM THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND EXCUSE ME, THAT WAS REVIEWED.
WE, WHEN A PROJECT COMES FORWARD, WE'LL ALSO REVIEW IT AT THAT POINT.
UM, AGAIN, UM, WE, THERE'S A LOT TO REVIEW WHEN THE PROJECT, A PROJECT, UM, A SPECIFIC PROJECT COMES BEFORE US, UM, AND WHAT THE FINAL OUTCOME WOULD BE.
UM, I ADDED THIS AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S IMPACTING TRIPS.
I'M NOT GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT, BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE TOOK THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AND DID THIS ADDITIONAL
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AS ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE THE COMPARATIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN I M U, OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA AND ALSO THE, THE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY THAT THEY HAD, UM, TO GAUGE TRAFFIC AND IMPACT AND IMPLICATION, UM, FOR, FROM THIS POLICY CHANGE, UM, WE, WE SHOWED THIS LAST TIME, UH, THIS WAS PROVIDED BY U S C B, BUT THEIR PROJECTION FOR, UM, FOR STUDENT HOUS, FOR STUDENT HOUSING AND STUDENT GROWTH, UM, AND I'M JUST PROVIDING YOU, THEY, THEY ANTICIPATE GROWTH, UM, OR ANTICIPATED GROWTH IN THESE SEC IN THESE SECTIONS AND PROVIDING THAT FOR INFORMATION.UH, WE ALSO, BECAUSE WE HAD THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT IN PLACE, LOOKED AT, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE, AND THE FOUNDATION FOR WHAT WAS, UH, PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND ADOPTED, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE ACTIVITY CENTERS.
UM, THE ABILITY TO CREATE, DO PLACEMAKING AND, AND CONNECT AROUND ANCHORS WAS PART OF WHAT WAS CONSIDERED THERE.
AND SO, UH, WE WERE ASKED TO, TO KIND OF DO AN, UM, UM, AN ASSESSMENT OR COMPARATIVE VIEW ON THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT, AND WE DID THAT AND PROVIDED THAT FOR INFORMATION, UH, THAT WAS PART OF THE S PACKET AND PREVIOUS PACKETS.
UM, THERE ARE REVIEW STANDARDS THAT WE LOOK, LOOK AT WHEN WE, UM, WHEN WE EVALUATE AND PRESENT INFORMATION, UM, AND THEY'RE LISTED HERE, BUT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN OR THERE CHANGES AND CONDITIONS THAT ARE THAT WARRANT IT, IS THERE DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED? UM, IS IT, IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE, INTENT OF ZONING IN THE ZONING DISTRICT? IS IT ORDERLY PATTERN? AND, AND IT WILL.
AND THEN THE IMPACT, WHAT ARE THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT MIGHT HAVE ON THE SURROUNDS? UM, SO WE'VE DONE THAT.
UM, I HOPE I PRESENTED ENOUGH INFORMATION AT A PACE, AT A PACE THAT THAT WAS COMFORTABLE FOR YOU, UH, AND THE, AND THE CROWD HERE.
UM, BUT, UM, AT THIS POINT I'VE ASKED COUNSEL IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND I'LL REMIND THEM THAT THIS IS THE SECOND FINAL READING OF THE AMENDMENT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF I MIGHT.
I WOULD MOVE THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL ADOPT ON SECOND READING, PROPOSED ORDINANCE 20 20 23 DASH SEVEN AMENDING SECTION 16 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, THE, THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE TO CREATE A NEW USE CALLED ISLAND MIXED USE WITH THE SEA PINES IN THE SEA PINES CIRCLE DISTRICT SECOND.
OKAY, SO THAT WAS A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, ORDINANCE 2023 DASH OH SEVEN AMENDING SECTION TITLE 16 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE TO CREATE A NEW USE CALLED ISLAND EXCUSE FOR THE INE CIRCLE DISTRICT.
SECOND AND FINAL READING, UM, DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL AND, AND MR. STANFORD, SINCE YOU MADE THAT MOTION, I'LL LET YOU SPEAK FIRST.
UM, I HAVE FOLLOWED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS OVER MORE THAN TWO YEARS.
UH, AND I CAN, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU TO SAY THAT I'VE GONE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS ON THIS.
THIS IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE, BUT I THINK IT OFFERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE A SORELY NEEDED HOUSING SOLUTION, JUST ONE HOUSING SOLUTION TO THE MANY SOLUTIONS WE NEED HERE ON THIS ISLAND.
UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN WILLING TO WORK WITH TOWN STAFF AND WITH COUNCIL.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME EVOLUTION OF THIS.
AND SO FOR THESE REASONS AND BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS COMMUNITY, I'VE MADE THIS MOTION AND I SUPPORT IT ACCORDINGLY.
UM, FIRST I WANNA SAY THAT, UH, I BELIEVE IN THE PRINCIPLE THAT AN ATTENTIVE CITIZENRY TENDS TO IMPROVE THE LEVEL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
SO I'M PLEASED TO SEE AS MANY PEOPLE COME OUT TODAY AS WE HAVE HERE.
UH, THIS PROJECT, AS HAS BEEN MADE CLEAR, IS FOR WORKERS PRIMARILY.
IT'S NOT DIRECTED AT, PRIMARILY AT WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AS SUCH, WORKERS THAT ARE TARGETED HERE ARE THE ONES THAT A NUMBER OF OUR LOCAL AREA EMPLOYERS HAVE SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FOR THEIR NURSES, THEIR WAITERS AND OTHERS OF THAT LEVEL.
UH, IT IS PERHAPS A SLIGHTLY HIGHER ECONOMIC LEVEL THAN THE WORKFORCE HOUSING BY ITSELF WOULD PRODUCE, BUT OUR LOCAL EMPLOYERS, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, HAVE BEEN
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SCRAMBLING TO GET EMPLOYEES HERE.AND TO THAT EXTENT, WE ARE SERVING, UH, THE EMPLOYERS WHO IN TURN SERVICE US.
THE, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC, AS I SEE THEM, ARE NOT CURRENT CONCERNS.
THERE'S NOT MUCH OF AN INDICATION THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY SIGNIFICANT CURRENT IMPACT ON TRAFFIC, WHICH WE KNOW AT SEA PINE CIRCLE IS ALREADY, UH, A NIGHTMARE.
THE REAL ISSUE IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, UH, IN THE FUTURE, A 10 OR 15 YEARS FROM NOW.
UH, THERE IS VERY LIKELY TO BE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE CIRCLE.
UH, AS MUCH OF THAT AREA IS IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT.
UH, MY CRYSTAL BALL SHOWS THAT WE SHOULD ANTICIPATE AT LEAST SEVERAL FOUR STORY BUILDINGS IN THE SEA PINE CIRCLE AREA IN THAT PERIOD OF 10 TO 15 YEARS.
SO TO ME, THE REAL ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, THERE WILL BE THE ISSUE IS WHETHER THERE WILL BE A SMALLER INCREASE UNDER THE TEXT AMENDMENT OR UNDER THE CURRENT LAW, WHICH DEVELOPERS CAN DO BY RIGHT.
STAFF HAS INDICATED IN THEIR REPORT THAT THERE WOULD BE A SMALLER INCREASE UNDER THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAN THERE WOULD BE UNDER CURRENT LAW OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE BY RIGHT IN THE FUTURE.
THAT WHAT TENDS TO GIVE ME THE FEELING THAT WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH A LOT OF DIFFICULT TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AT THE CIRCLE.
AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE THAT WE IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC GOES THROUGH THE CIRCLE RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT GONNA BE A NEGATIVE TO THE LONG-TERM FUTURE.
UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND WHO HAVE SPOKE VERY CLEARLY THAT THEY APPRECIATE WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THAT THEY HAVE SUPPORTED, UM, A PRIVATE INVESTOR WHO HAS COME FORWARD, WHO WILL PROVIDE FOR THE EMPLOYERS, THE UNIVERSITY, AND FOR THE EMPLOYEES, A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND BE A BENEFIT TO OUR ISLAND LONG TERM.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU FOR THE APPLICANT FOR THE MANY TIMES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WILLING TO WORK AND TO ADJUST SO THAT WE COULD GET TO A PLACE TODAY WHERE I BELIEVE WE HAVE A TEXT AMENDMENT, UM, THAT I CAN FULLY SUPPORT MS. JAMES.
OKAY, MS. MS. PRESTON, UM, I'M GONNA DEFER TO AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. BROWN.
WELL, ACTUALLY, SEAN, BEFORE, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANNA ASK YOU ONE QUESTION.
UM, YOU USE THE WHAT, WHAT THE DWELLING UNIT PER PER ACRE IS ON THE PROPOSED SITE AT 31, AND YOU, YOU TRANSPOSED THAT TO THE OTHER, OTHER PARCELS KNOWING THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD BE LESS BECAUSE WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THE, THE CALCULATIONS IN, IT BECOMES A SMALLER SITE WITH, WITH LESS DENSITY.
IF THERE WAS A, IF, IF YOU LOOKED AT EACH INDIVIDUAL PARCEL, ESPECIALLY THE SMALLER ONES, THE YIELD WOULD NOT BE 31.
UH, BUT LOOKING AT THE TOTAL AREA THAT COULD BE IMPACTED OF AROUND 45 ACRES, UM, WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT IN, UM, NOT, NOT WITH CERTAINTY, BUT PRETTY CONFIDENT THE IMPACT AND IMPLICATIONS OF TRIP GENERATION AND DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL THAT WOULD RESULT, UM, USING KIND OF A ROUGH, THAT ROUGH STANDARD.
SO WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AGAIN, I'M GONNA REMIND YOU, WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, SO PLEASE KEEP THE, THE APPLAUSE AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO ZERO.
ERIC SOMERVILLE, PALMETTO BAY MARINA.
AND I FIRST WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU, ALAN, AND YOU MARK FOR THE APARTMENT, UH, NORTH POINT THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER.
I HATED BEING LOCKED OUT OF THE MEETINGS, BUT YOU DID THE RIGHT THING.
SO I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THAT AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO THAT, FOR THAT TO GROW ON THE MATTER BEFORE ME.
I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED 'CAUSE I HEARD SEAN SAY WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE PROJECT, WE'RE APPROVING THE, UH, L M O SPECIFICATIONS AND, BUT THEY ALL SOUND GOOD.
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UH, STEVE IS RIGHT AND IT DOESN'T IN, UH, AFFECT TRAFFIC IN A BIG WAY ALL OF A SUDDEN, I'M THRILLED ABOUT THAT.'CAUSE THAT WAS PROBABLY THE ONLY ISSUE I WAS LINGERING ON.
OTHER THAN THAT, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM.
IT DOES ALL SORTS OF GOOD THINGS.
IT'S NOT COSTING THE TOWN ANY MONEY.
UH, AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY ANYBODY WOULD, UH, OBJECT TO THIS.
AS MUCH AS I FELL ASLEEP A FEW TIMES AS YOU WENT THROUGH THAT
I'M ON AN APP ON MY PHONE TO EVEN FIGURE IT OUT, BUT THE FACT IS, UH, IT IS LOOKING AT THE LARGER AREA, THE LARGER AREAS PROBABLY EVEN GOES AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE CIRCLE AND OTHER BUILDINGS ARE ALREADY FOR SALE FOR OBVIOUSLY, AND OTHER BUILDINGS ARE IN DILAPIDATED CONDITIONS, SO WE NEED HELP THERE AS WELL.
LET'S GO HILL AND HEAD ISLAND.
HOW MANY YEARS? HOW MANY YEARS MORE DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS? SO I HOPE IT'S RIGHT NOW, DR.
OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? YES, MA'AM.
MARGARET AND I LIVE IN INDIGO RUN.
AND AGAIN, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MR. ORLANDO, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.
I AM IN FAVOR OF THE OFFICE PARKWAY PROJECT.
I'VE BEEN COMING TO THESE MEETINGS NOW FOR ALMOST FOUR MONTHS.
I'VE LEARNED A LOT, BUT I ALSO GETTING SOMEWHAT DISAPPOINTED TO ME, WE, THE CONSTITUENTS OF THE ISLAND, WE COME AND TELL YOU OUR VIEWPOINTS AND I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD, YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO US AND THEN VOTE THE WAY WE ARE ASKING YOU TO VOTE.
AND I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.
WE'VE HAD OVER 90% OF THE PEOPLE COMING HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS.
I'VE TALKED TO MY NEIGHBORS AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE, THEY'RE IN FAVORS.
THEY'VE SAID THEY'VE WRITTEN TO YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID OR IF THEY HAVE NOT, BUT I REALLY THINK YOU SHOULD START LISTENING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND, AND DO WHAT THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO DO.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT WE NEED, AND THIS IS WHAT I THINK IS GETTING CONFUSED, WE NEED LOW INCOME HOUSING VERSUS WORKFORCE HOUSING.
I THINK THERE'S A BIG MIS CONFUSION THERE THAT WE ARE GETTING THIS ENTANGLED.
THIS PROJECT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WAS TO WORK WITH THE EMPLOYERS TO HAVE TO GET SPACE FOR THE, THEIR EMPLOYEES TO WORK.
I KNOW A LOT OF BUSINESS ARE DOING IS DOING IT, THE HEALTH INSTITUTE IS DOING IT.
THEY'RE GETTING THE SPACE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES TO WORK.
THIS IS WHAT THE IDEA BEHIND THIS WAS TO WORK WITH THE EMPLOYERS, NOT TO MAKE THE A M I SO LOW OR TO MAKE IT A LOW INCOME PROJECT.
SO I THINK THE TIDE NEEDS TO REALLY LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
IT'S GONNA BE WORKFORCE ACCORDING TO THE EMPLOYERS, NOT A LOW A M I LOW INCOME HOUSING.
I KNOW THE TIDE IS ALSO WORKING ON THE NORTH POINT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE MORE GOVERNMENT TYPE HOUSING, WHICH IS FINE.
YOU NEED A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS PROJECT IS TODAY.
THIS IS NOT LOW INCOME HOUSING.
IT'S HOUSING THAT THE EMPLOYERS WANT FOR THEIR PEOPLE.
AND I AM ASKING ALL OF YOU IN COUNSEL TODAY TO LISTEN TO YOUR RESIDENTS TO PLEASE PASS THE TEXT AMENDMENT AS IT WAS FROM THE FIRST READING AND IT WAS PASSED TODAY AND APPROVE AS A HUNDRED PERCENT PASSED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND LISTENING TO ME.
I WAS, I WAS POINTING BEHIND THIS GIFT.
THE ONE GOING MS. GREELEY, I MEAN,
I LIVE IN HILTON HEAD PLANTATION AND I TOO KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.
SO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS, AFTER SUCH THOROUGH ANALYSIS, IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO HOW MUCH DO YOU VALUE OUR STUDENTS AND THE SURGE RESTAURANT GROUP.
I WANT TO THANK THOSE TOWN REPRESENTATIVES WHO SUPPORT THIS COMMUNITY OF STUDENTS WHO SEEK A MUCH BETTER FUTURE FOR THEMSELVES AND RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE THAT OUR SURGE EMPLOYEES AND OTHERS BRING TO THE ECONOMY OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND WANT TO LIVE HERE.
THIS IS A WONDERFUL WIN-WIN DECISION THAT SHOWS THESE
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STUDENTS AND HOSPITALITY WORKERS THAT THEY DO MATTER.OTHERWISE, IT'S JUST A BLIGHTED AREA WAITING FOR A STRIP CLUB OR SELF STORAGE UNITS TO CLAIM OCCUPANCY
I'M, I'M GONNA KIND OF RUN DOWN THE LINE TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR MYSELF.
YES, PASTOR JUNE WOULD BE INTERESTING.
HI, PASTOR JUNE WILKINS, CHRIST LUTHERAN CHURCH, 8 29 WILLIAM MILTON PARKWAY AND PRIVATELY I LIVE AT MAGNOLIA PLACE ON HILTON HEAD COUNCIL AND STAFF.
I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE TOWN COUNCIL VERY MUCH.
I'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY TO LET YOU ALL DO YOUR WORK AND TO LET ME DO MINE.
BUT I'VE BEEN WATCHING IN THE NEWS AND ON MEETINGS ONLINE AND I WANTED TO SAY YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
UH, I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENTS THE TOWN HAS MADE IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS THAT WILL HOPEFULLY CHIP AWAY AT THE DESPERATE NEED FOR HOUSING.
MANY OF THESE PROJECTS ARE IN COOPERATION WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS NECESSARY, BUT SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGING THE TOWN TO ABANDON DEVELOPING WORKFORCE HOUSING WITH PUBLIC MONEY AND TO ALLOW THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO DO THIS WORK ON THEIR OWN.
WE ALL KNOW THIS IS NOT FEASIBLE.
WE HAVE ALLOWED THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO LEAD THE WAY AND TO MANAGE HOUSING HERE ON HILTON HEAD FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS, AND THIS HAS LEFT US WHERE WE ARE NOW.
MOST PRIVATE DEVELOPERS HAVE DIFFERENT GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, AND THESE OBJECTIVES ARE NOT LONG-TERM AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR ISLAND WORKERS.
WE HAVE OF LATE SEEN A LOT OF PRIVATE COMPANIES ASKING, LIKE THIS ONE, ASKING FOR CONCESSIONS FROM THE TOWN BY PROMISING THAT SOME OF THEIR UNITS WOULD BE WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR A TEMPORARY LENGTH OF TIME.
I KNOW THAT COMPROMISES ARE NECESSARY TO GET THIS WORK DONE, AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO CREATE THE ROADMAP IN THIS ENDEAVOR.
BUT PLEASE BE WARY OF LETTING THESE COMPROMISES CHANGE THE TOWN'S DEFINITION OF WORKFORCE HOUSING.
DON'T LET PRIVATE COMPANIES WHOSE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS TO MAKE MONEY FOR THE COMPANY DEFINE THESE THINGS FOR THE TOWN.
THE TOWN NEEDS TO DEFINE THESE FOR THE PROJECTS.
WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE A CRITERION FOR A M I, THE PERCENTAGE OF A M I THAT'S ACCEPTABLE, WHAT DEFINES LIVABLE SITUATIONS? HOW MANY UNITS WOULD CLASSIFY AS A WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT TO GARNER THE CONCESSIONS AND ESPECIALLY MAYBE THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING REMAINS WORKFORCE HOUSING IN OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN WORKFORCE HOUSING WITH 15 AND 20 YEAR LIMITS HAVE BEEN EVICTED ON MASS WITH VERY LITTLE WARNING.
15 AND 20 YEARS GO BY VERY QUICKLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING.
FINALLY, AS A PASTOR, I WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE SOMETHING SPECIFIC WITHIN JUST A FEW OF THE COMMENTS.
I'VE HEARD THE UNDERLYING SUGGESTION THAT THE TOWN SHOULD NOT BE ENCOURAGING WORKERS TO LIVE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
I HAVE HEARD THE IMPLICATION THAT HAVING HOUSING WITH LOWER RENTS AND LOWER A M I, BASICALLY PEOPLE WITH AVERAGE INCOMES WOULD LET THE WRONG KIND OF PEOPLE IN AND LOWER PROPERTY VALUES AND NOT BE SAFE FOR US.
IT'S BASICALLY NOT ON MY ISLAND SENTIMENT.
I EXPECTED THIS WOULD COME UP, BUT IT'S SHAMEFUL AND SADDENING WHEN IT DOES.
COMMUNITIES THRIVE WHEN THEY HAVE DIVERSITY, RACIAL AGE, AND ECONOMIC DIVERSITY.
PEOPLE WHO LIVE WHERE THEY WORK HAVE MORE PRIDE IN THEIR WORK AND IN THEIR HOMES, AND THEY WILL STAY AT THEIR JOBS LONGER.
THEY WILL BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU WANT TO BENEFIT WORKERS ON THE ISLAND, IF YOU WANT THE BENEFIT OF WORKERS ON THE ISLAND, YOU NEED TO HOUSE THE WORKERS ON THIS ISLAND AND THAT WILL ONLY BE DONE EFFECTIVELY IN LONG TERM WITH ALL OF YOU AND THE TOWN MEETING THE WAY WITH PUBLIC FUNDING.
SO MS. LEE, WE'LL COME DOWN THAT WAY AND COME DOWN.
I WAS HOPING I COULD FOLLOW PASTOR JUNE
THANK YOU PASTOR JUNE, AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY BEING HERE.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I HOPE I DON'T TAKE ALL THAT TIME UP.
UM, FOR THOSE, UH, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT, UH, THE THREE MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND BEFORE HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT.
I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT AS A PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT IS A MARKET RATE PROJECT.
UH, THE ONLY, THERE'S TWO PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE WITH THIS PROJECT OR WITH THE ORDINANCE.
LET'S CONCENTRATE ON THE ORDINANCE.
THE ORDINANCE HAS, IN MY OPINION, TWO DEFECTS THAT ARE BOTH FATAL DEFECTS.
ONE, IT REQUIRES THE L M O CURRENTLY REQUIRES, AND THIS ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT BE A WORKFORCE COMPONENT.
THE WORKFORCE COMPONENT PROPOSED AT THIS POINT IS NOT A LIMITATION ON WORKFORCE HOUSING.
IT DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THE, THE LOWEST PRICE UNIT COULD IN THIS UNIT, IN THIS PROJECT COULD BE FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR, COULD BE THREE $3,500 A MONTH.
AND IT MEETS THE CRITERIA THAT 120% ALLOWS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INCOME, AND THAT'S THE MINIMUM.
AND IT'S ONLY FOR SO MANY YEARS FOR SO MANY UNITS, IT REALLY DOES NOT MEET THE, THE, UH, CRITERIA OF WORKFORCE HOUSING.
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I COULD HAVE EXPRESSED THAT DIFFERENTLY, BUT I REALLY BEG YOU TO LOOK HARD AT THE REQUIREMENT FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.AND DOES THIS AS IT'S WRITTEN, MEET THAT REQUIREMENT? THE SECOND ONE IS THE PARKING.
UH, YOUR STAFF HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF SHOWING YOU THE RISK OF PARKING.
THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, IT'S 101.5 PARKING PLACES PER UNIT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY BEDROOMS, IF YOU DO THE MATH, THERE'S 75 PARKING SPACES SUPPORT 50 UNITS.
AT SOME POINT IN TIME WHEN THAT LEASE EXPIRES, 50 OF THOSE UNITS HAVE TO BE UNOCCUPIED.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S DONE THE MATH.
I DIDN'T DO THE MATH TILL I HEARD THE PRESENTATION FROM THE STAFF.
THIS PARKING IS SHORT FOR 50 UNITS.
ONCE THE U SS C B LEASE EXPIRES, IT'S A LEASE.
IT'S NOT A PERMANENT COMMITMENT.
PLEASE CONSIDER AS COUNCIL MEMBERS WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND PASSING DOWN THE ROAD TO FUTURE COUNCILS AND THE RESIDENCE OF THIS COMMUNITY PROJECT.
IT'S MARKET PROJECT, THAT'S FINE.
IT CAN BE 30 UNITS PER ACRE, 35 25 IMMATERIAL.
DON'T LET IT BLOW UP IN ALL OF OUR FACES DOWN THE ROAD IF PARKING, WHEN PARKING DISAPPEARS.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY.
YOU PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.
MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND IT, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT AND THEN PASS IT ALONG.
FIGURE OUT A WAY FOR THE DEVELOPER TO PROGRESS ALONG QUICKLY.
DO THINGS IN PARALLEL WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT PLEASE CONSIDER IT'S GONNA BLOW UP AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
THANK YOU FOR THE FOUR WHO HAVE THE WISDOM AND COURAGE TO PASS THE FIRST READING OF THE REVISED ISLANDER MIXED USE TAXMEN AMENDMENT ON AUGUST 15TH AND OUR APPRECIATION EXTEND TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR UNANIMOUS APPROVAL ON SEPTEMBER 20TH.
TODAY FOR THE SECOND AND FINAL READING, FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE POWER TO BRING THE APPLICANT'S TWO YEAR ORDEAL TO A HAPPY END.
ENDING A YES VOTE IS TO CONFIRM IS A CONFIRMATION TO YOUR CONSTITUTIONS WHO ATTENDED MANY COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD THEM.
A YES VOTE IS A WIN FOR COMMON SENSE POLICIES THAT HAVE BECOME UNCOMMON VIRTUAL.
WE ALL KNOW THAT HILTON HAD EMPLOYEES 21,000 WORKERS AND 16,000 OF THEM LIVE OFF THE ISLAND.
THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH LAND ON THIS SMALL ISLAND TO MEET THE DEMAND.
WE ALL KNOW THAT IF YOU BRING HOME NO INCOME, YOU ARE NOT WORKING BY TYING THE IRON R MIXED USE TO ZERO OF A M I THAT'S HOUSING FOR FREE.
ON THE FLIP SIDE, IF EMPLOYERS ARE WILLING TO SUBSIDIZE LONG-TERM RENTALS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES, THAT'S HOUSING FOR WORKERS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT AMERICA IS BUILT ON A FREE MARKET ECONOMY AND PROFIT DRIVEN PRIVATE SECTORS HAVE DELIVERED LIFESAVING DRUGS, RUN THE FOOD WE EAT, PUT ROOFS OVER OUR HEADS AND GIVING US PAYCHECKS SO WE, WE COULD RETIRE HERE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
IN 2013, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROMISED TO END HOMELESSNESS IN AMERICA BY 2023 BY OFFERING GOVERNMENT FUNDED VOUCHERS WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED UNDER THE HUDS HOUSING FIRST PROGRAM.
WE ALL KNOW THAT GOOD INTENTIONS DON'T ALWAYS TRANSLATE INTO GOOD RESULTS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT AN MIXED USE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEBATED ON THE TAX AMENDMENT FOR DENSITY AND SHARED PARKING IN COMPARISON WITH WHAT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
AND THE PROPOSAL SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED BASED ON ITS MERIT, YET IT'S SUB BEATING BY A THOUSAND CUTS FROM INTERVENING MOTIONS OR ENDLESS REVISED FIRST READINGS THAT SIGNIFICANTLY DEVI DEVIATED FROM THE CORE PRINCIPLES OF S RULES OF ORDER, WHICH IS THE GOVERNING DOCUMENT FOR COUNCIL MEETING PROCEEDINGS AND CONDUCT ACCORDING TO THE TOWN'S CODE FOR REFERENCE, THE SOUTH CAROLINA HOUSE RULE STATES AT THE FINAL READING OF A BILL, NO AMENDMENT SHALL BE PERMITTED WITHOUT UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT THE WORKERS.
WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT WORKER SHORTAGE AND HOUSING SHORTAGE.
THEREFORE, COMMON SENSE DICTATES THAT THE COUNCIL FOCUS ON ADDRESSING TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION, SHORT-TERM RENTAL, TIMESHARES, AND UNCONTROLLED TOURIST GROWTH THAT HAVE EXACERBATED THE IMBALANCE OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND FOR BOTH WORKERS AND FOR HOUSING.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE TO VOTE AND I HOPE THAT MORE THAN FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL SUPPORT TAX AMENDMENT.
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CHAIR NORRIS SHIPYARD.UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL AND MARK.
UM, YES, ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO PASS THIS AMENDMENT.
ELLEN WA WHALEY STATES THAT SHE BELIEVES IN COMPE COMPETING CONCEPTUAL FRAMEWORKS AND THAT ADVERSARIAL ALIGNMENT OF PROJECTS ARE GOING TO ENABLE THIS TOWN TO UNDERSTAND COMPETING MODELS.
I THINK SHE'S A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT, ENGAGING IN COOPERATIVE EVOLUTION.
SO THE TOWN AND THEIR STAFF UNDERSTANDS WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK.
MAYBE NOT TO JUST SIMPLY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE DEVELOPER OR THE COMMUNITY, BUT WILL HAVE A STRONGER TOWN STAFF THROUGH IT.
TOWN COUNCIL HAS TO WORK OUT SOME DETAILS, PARKING TREES, ET CETERA, BUT SHE'S IN FAVOR OF BRINGING IT TO THE NEXT STEP AS IS VICE CHAIR MARK O'NEILL, WHO STATED THAT THE HOUSING ISSUE IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
IF AS A COMMUNITY WE'RE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN PROVIDING ENOUGH HOUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO HAVE THE CHOICE OF WORKING IN BLUFFTON OR COMING ON THE ISLAND, THE OFFICE WAY PROJECT IS A GOOD EXERCISE TO DETERMINE WHAT'S BEST.
HE ALSO IS VERY IMPRESSED WITH STAFF AND TOWN COUNCIL AND NONE OF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE DEVELOPER COMING TO THE TABLE AND WILLINGLY CHANGING SEVERAL CONTINGENCIES.
HE SUPPORTS THIS AS DO I, AS DO OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN COMING FOR MONTHS TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
THERE IS A CONTINGENCY WHO BELIEVES THAT UNLESS HOUSING IS SUBSIDIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT, IT'S NOT A PRIORITY.
THEY BELIEVE TOWN FUNDING FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO.
THEY BELIEVE THE ONLY OBJECTIVE IS FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO MAKE MONEY.
SOME OF US BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT HOUSING MAY NOT WORK, THAT WE'VE SEEN DISASTERS THAT LEAD TO SLUMS AND UNDESIRABLE TENANTS.
WE PREFER A CAPITALIST SOCIETY WHERE MAKING A PROFIT TO STAY IN BUSINESS ISN'T SEEN AS A CRIME.
HE'S ON THE BOARD OF THE C C D C.
HE BACKS THE OFFICE WAY PROJECT.
HE'S LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION TO HOUSE HIS EMPLOYEES AS WE ARE.
I PROPOSE THE TOWN DOES THE SAME VOTE FOR BOTH.
LET THE TWO HOUSING SOLUTIONS COMPETE.
LET THE FREE MARKET DECIDE THE BEST WAY FOR HILTON HEAD TO MOVE FORWARD IN OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING DILEMMA.
I'M GONNA COME, I'M GONNA COME OVER THIS SIDE NOW.
ANYBODY ON THIS SIDE WISH TO, TO COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
DAVID DESPAIN BELIEVES IN THINKING DIFFERENTLY.
HE RESEARCHED THE TOWN'S NEEDS.
HE PRESENTED A CLEAR AND COMPELLING PROPOSAL THAT THE TOWN WILL BE ABLE TO VISUALLY SEE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE, JOB CREATION, AND INCREASE TAX REVENUE.
DAVID CONTINUES TO BUILD TRUST BY ACTIVELY LISTENING TO THE COUNCIL AND UNDERSTANDING YOUR PRIORITIES FOR THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE TO APPROVE THE MIXED USE PROJECT.
YES, MS. HUTCHINS, ANGIE HUTCHINS, SHIPYARD, MAYOR, COUNCILMAN, AND, UH, MORE.
UM, I THINK WE ALL AGREE WITH THERE'S A DEVASTATING SUPPLY SHORTAGE.
UM, THE, AS ONE OF THE LIFEGUARDS SAID, IF WE GET MORE HOUSING QUICKLY, THERE'LL BE MORE HOUSING ON THE ISLAND IN THE VIDEO THAT WE HELPED GET OUT.
UM, THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER TO ME.
UH, WHEN, WHEN THERE'S A FIRE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WORK TOGETHER TO PUT IT OUT.
WE HAVE A COMMUNITY HERE, YOU WORK TOGETHER TO PUT IT OUT.
YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHO BOUGHT THEIR HOSE FROM WHAT STORE OR WHERE IT CAME FROM, THAT YOU GET YOUR BUCKETS, YOU GET YOUR HOSES AND YOU GET THINGS GOING.
THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO GET THINGS GOING IN A VERY WELL-STUDIED APPROACH, BALANCED APPROACH, NOT APPROACH TO NOT APPROVING THIS TEXT.
L M O WILL INADVERTENTLY LEAD TO CONTINUE THE SUPPLY SHORTAGE.
15 YEARS MAY SEEM SHORT FOR SOME 15 YEARS, MAY SEEM LONG FOR THE OTHERS, BUT 15 YEARS WOULD GET OTHER PROJECTS OFF THE GROUND.
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THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR REAL LEADERSHIP TO BUILD COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF DIVISION.THERE IS, UM, A HOSPITAL GROUP, THE SURGE GROUP, THE LIFEGUARD STAFFING, OTHER HOSPITALITY RELATED INDUSTRIES ALL VARIED WITH VERY DIVERGENT INTERESTS AND NEEDS, BUT THEY HAVE COME TOGETHER BEHIND THIS PROJECT AND CAN AGREE THAT THIS IS NEEDED.
CAN THE COUNCIL COME AND SHOW REAL LEADERSHIP AND AGREE THAT THIS COULD BE NEEDED? THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE FROM THIS SIDE? WISHES TO BE? YES, MA'AM.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR PERRY, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND MARK ORLANDO, TOWN MANAGER.
MY NAME IS CHARLIE CLARK AND I'M WITH THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND BLUFFTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I'D LIKE TO CONNECT THE DOTS A LITTLE BIT.
WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT AMENDMENTS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ORDINANCES.
LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS IS REALLY ALL ABOUT.
I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE EVERY DAY OF WORKING WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN SUPPORT OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN HAVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT THEY DESERVE FROM A HEALTHY, THRIVING PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK.
EACH OF YOU CARE REALLY DEEPLY ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AGAINST RESIDENTS, AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE IS OFTEN A VERY THANKLESS JOB.
WE'RE ALL IN THIS ROOM TODAY BECAUSE WE LOVE THIS PLACE.
IT'S SPECIAL AND EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM JUST WANTS TO SEE IT REMAIN SPECIAL.
I ATE OUTDOORS RECENTLY AT ONE OF OUR RESTAURANTS AND SAW A WAITER WORKING REALLY HARD.
HE SERVED MULTIPLE TABLES, MOST OF THEM LOCALS.
I THOUGHT ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THAT WAITER, THE RESTAURANT AND ITS OTHER EMPLOYEES, THE BANK AND THE STAFF WHERE THAT RESTAURANT HELD ITS FUNDS.
THE ACCOUNTANT, THE PLUMBER, THE MUSICIAN WHO WAS PLAYING THERE, MAKING THIS COMMUNITY WORK.
THAT ONE RESTAURANT TOUCHES SO MANY LIVES, AND I THINK WE OFTEN FORGET THAT.
AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WORKFORCE HOUSING IS A CHALLENGE AND YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A SOLUTION RIGHT NOW THAT HELPS SUPPORT THOSE WHO WORK HERE AND THOSE WHO LIVE THERE.
IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR WORKFORCE AND IT'S A WIN FOR RESIDENTS.
THE TOWN'S FOUNDING FATHERS UNDERSTOOD THAT AS LONG AS THEY HELD STEADFAST TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL VISION OF THIS ISLAND, THAT THEIR VOTE WOULD BE RIGHT FOR RIGHT NOW.
AND STILL RIGHT DOWN THE LINE, APPROVING THIS PROJECT DOESN'T JEOPARDIZE THAT VISION.
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT PUBLICLY, AS YOU STATED, FOR TWO YEARS.
YOUR COMMUNITY IS COUNTING ON IT.
ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE FROM THIS SIDE? OKAY, I'M GONNA GO TO THE BACK.
WE ARE ALL AWARE, WELL AWARE OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO, UH, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT HERE.
WE HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION OF REALLY THINKING OUTSIDE THE BLOCKS.
WE HAVE A BLIGHTED AREA WE WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH A LOCAL DEVELOPER, A DEVELOPER WHO WILL DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY.
HE HAS A DEFINED MARKET ALREADY WHO WILL GO INTO THIS PROPERTY.
THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE TO PUT IN ANY MONEY, AND THE TOWN CLEARLY DEFINES AS WE'VE HEARD, UH, ON THE, UH, THE LAND BOUNDARIES TODAY AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR LIVING.
SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE LOOK FOLLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS, NO TOWN MONEY, LIMITED RISK, AND VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF SOLUTIONS ON THIS PROBLEM ALL UP AND DOWN THE COAST.
AND IN ANY PLACE WITH LIMITED LAND, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.
IT'S THE FIRST STEP FOR THE TIME.
WE MIGHT FIND OTHER FIRST STEPS WE MIGHT LEARN BY OTHER PEOPLE.
I HOPE WE DO BECAUSE THE TOWN OWNS LAND THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO SOME DEVELOPMENT ON.
BUT THIS IS A FIRST STEP OF BEGINNING TO THINK, HOW DO I MEET THE NEED WITH A MINIMAL TAXPAYER EXPENSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE, SIR.
AND, AND I TELL YOU WHAT, FOR THOSE THAT WANNA SPEAK, WATCH Y'ALL.
THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO CALL ON EVERYBODY.
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A LINE.I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
MY NAME IS MELINDA TUNNER AND I LIVE IN PALMETTO HALL.
I'M ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE ISLANDER MIXED USE IN SEA PINE CIRCLE.
THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS A CREATIVE APPROACH TO REDEVELOP DILAPIDATED LAND, WHICH CAN BENEFIT THE TOWN.
AND THOSE BENEFITS INCLUDE DORMS FOR OUR COLLEGE CAMPUS.
WE NEED, AND I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT WE WANT THAT $21 MILLION INVESTMENT IN THE UNIVERSITY TO PAY OFF THROUGH EDUCATING OUR STUDENTS.
IT PROVIDES A LOWER DENSITY OF BEDROOMS, RESIDENTS, AND TRAFFIC THAN THE CURRENT BUY RIGHTS L M O.
IT ADDS MORE HOUSING FOR OUR WORKFORCE.
NOW, 20% OF THOSE UNITS ARE BASED ON INCOME AND LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE SIGNING LONG-TERM LETTERS OF INTENT FOR THE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.
THERE'LL BE NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND NO TAXPAYER DOLLARS NEEDED.
THE TOWN STAFF, COUNCIL COMMITTEES AND DEVELOPER HAVE WORKED HARD TO IRON OUT ALL THE DETAILS.
AND WE GOT TO SEE THAT TODAY FROM SEAN'S VERY LENGTHY PRESENTATION.
THE FIRST READING PASSED WITH A VOTE TO FOUR TO THREE, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGREED UNANIMOUSLY TO ALL OF THE CHANGES IN THEIR REVIEW.
AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THIS CHANGE.
LOCAL BUSINESSES HAVE SPOKEN AT TOWN MEETINGS AND HAVE SIGNED THOSE LONG-TERM LETTERS OF INTENT.
THE C E O OF A HOSPITAL RECOGNIZES THE NEED FOR THIS PROJECT FOR HOUSING, FOR NURSES AND OTHER MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND RESIDENTS ARE SHOWING UP TO MULTIPLE MEETINGS OVER MULTIPLE YEARS.
THERE'S A LOT OF MOMENTUM HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ON HOUSING FOR OUR WORKFORCE.
THE TOWN'S NORTH POINT PROJECT HAS SELECTED A FINALIST TO DEVELOP AND MANAGE THE PROJECT, AND THE HOSPITAL ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT TO RENT UNITS AT KIG PLAZA'S LOFTS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.
SO LET'S KEEP THAT MOMENTUM GOING BY APPROVING THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE MY FEEDBACK.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR TOWN MANAGER AND TOWN COUNCIL.
UH, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AT THIS OFFICE WAY PROJECT.
YOUR APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT AT THE FIRST MEETING SENT A VERY POSITIVE NOTE TO THE CONSTITUENTS OF THE SOUTH END.
FINALLY, A SOLUTION WITHOUT TOWN MONEY.
A PRIVATE LOCAL DEVELOPER USING HIS OWN MONEY AND COLLABORATING WITH LOCAL BUSINESS THAT WANT TO SECURE HOUSING FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES ON A LONG-TERM BASIS.
THIS PAST FRIDAY, THE HEADLINE IN THE LEDGER WAS HILTON HEAD HOSPITAL HAVING TROUBLE STAFFING NURSES AND OTHER SPECIALTY PEOPLE BECAUSE OF HOUSING.
SO LET ME BE CLEAR, WE KNOW THAT THE DICTATORS WHO WANNA OFFER AMENDMENTS TO THIS FIRST READING AND ACCEPT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE ORDER TO STOP IT FROM GOING FORWARD ON THE SECOND READING.
NOW IS YOUR TIME TO SERVE THE COURAGE THAT THIS TOWN AND COMMUNITY HAS BEEN WAITING FOR.
DON'T LET THE DICTATORS KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
AGAIN, LET ME BE CLEAR AND IF I AM WRONG, PLEASE CORRECT THE ISSUE.
BUT THE TOWN HAS SPENT 25 PLUS OR MILLION DOLLARS ON U SS C B SOUTH CAMPUS AND THIS DEVELOPER IS WILLING TO BUILD 60 RESIDENCES FREE FOR SOME PARKING SPACES LIKE U S C B THAT HAVE PROBABLY NEVER SEEN A CAR.
THIS LIFELINE IS THE LAST HURRAH TO SAVE THE CAMPUS OR WILL BE GONE IN FIVE YEARS.
AND THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT HE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE YOU ARE SAYING THAT HIS PARKING WILL THEN DISAPPEAR WITH THE U SS C B.
ALSO, THE CHANCELLOR WHO WAS SITTING HERE WITH US IS A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND THE PROJECT.
THE TOWN HAS $7 MILLION TIED UP IN THE NORTH END PROJECT FOR MANY YEARS, HAS FINALLY CHOSEN A DEVELOPER WHO IS GONNA MANAGE THAT.
CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS ARE TO BEGIN SOON.
CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, 3.5 MILLION ON SEVEN ACRES ON SPANISH WELLS, 12 ACRES ON THE HORSE STABLES ON JONESVILLE ROAD.
THIS PROJECT IS SHOVEL READY AND AT NO COST TO THE TOWN IF THE DICTATORS ARE SO WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC TO THE CIRCLE.
THE TOWN JUST PURCHASED WILD WINGS PROPERTY AT A COST TO INCLUDE ALL BUSINESS VALUE, RENOVATION COSTS
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AND LAND VALUE TO CREATE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR CELEBRATION PARK THE BEACH AND KIG PLAZA AT A PRICE UNKNOWN, BUT HAS A SWEETENER OF APPROXIMATELY A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ABOVE THE ACTUAL VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.SIR, I PRACTICED THAT THREE TIMES.
THAT'S A FAST CLOCK, RIGHT? I CLOCKED THAT.
THAT'S A FAST CLOCK
MAYBE IT'LL BE EASIER IF WE CALL IT EMPLOYEE HOUSING INSTEAD OF THANK YOU WORKFORCE.
I'M MIKE WAGNER, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF SHORE BEACH SERVICE.
UH, AS AN EMPLOYER WHO FINDS HOUSING EVERY YEAR FOR MORE THAN 60 BEACH LIFEGUARDS, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE MY SUPPORT FOR THE AMENDMENT.
UH, SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON THE ISLAND HAVE OVERTAKEN OPTIONS THAT USED TO BE AVAILABLE TO OUR TOWN'S WORKFORCE WHILE CREATING DEMAND FOR A LARGER WORKFORCE.
TO ME, THE KEY TO THIS PROJECT IS THAT IT MAKES, UH, IT, IT KEEPS IT SHORT-TERM HOUSING FOR THE ENTIRETY.
UH, HAVING MORE LONG-TERM HOUSING, UM, I THINK I MIGHT'VE MIS SAID THAT I MEANT IT KEEPS IT FROM EVER BECOMING SHORT-TERM HOUSING.
SO HAVING MORE LONG-TERM HOUSING OPTIONS LIKE THE H UH, OFFICE WAY PROJECT IS VITAL TO KEEPING ENOUGH WORKERS FOR THE ISLAND.
UH, WHILE THIS PROJECT WON'T SUR UH, COMPLETELY SOLVE THE ISSUE, IT'S A HUGE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR, UH, TOWN COUNCIL AND MR. TOWN MANAGER.
IT FEELS LIKE ANY NEW HOUSING IN OUR TOWN IS JUDGED BY THE WORKFORCE HOUSING TEMPLATE THAT YOU'VE FORGED OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.
JUST LIKE THE HAMMER THAT THINKS EVERYTHING IS A NAIL.
SOME PEOPLE THINK ANY NEW HOUSING MUST FIT INTO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING TEMPLATE FOR THE ISLANDER MIXED USE PROJECT.
SOME OF YOU WILL FOCUS ON SCARY SOUNDING, BUT MISLEADING CONCEPTS LIKE UNLIMITED DENSITY, WHICH IT'S NOT, OR FOCUS ON TECHNICALITIES LIKE 25 YEARS OF THIS CONDITION OR 20% OF ANOTHER OR SOME OTHER ISSUE INTENDED TO DELAY FOR ONE MORE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW.
ONE MORE PLANNING COMMITTEE REVIEW AND ANOTHER TOWN COUNCIL READING.
OR WE MIGHT HEAR A FEARFUL SPECULATION THAT 20 YEARS FROM NOW A DREADED RETIREE MIGHT MANAGE TO RENT A MARKET RATE APARTMENT.
I ASK YOU TO PUT THE HAMMER ASIDE AND SIMPLY LOOK AT THE MERITS OF THE ISLANDER MIXED USE DESIGN.
THE PROPOSED USE IS AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE L M O.
WIDER SETBACKS, LIMITS ON BEDROOM COUNTS, MINIMUM UNIT SIZE, NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND BETTER F A R RATIOS.
THERE'S NO COST TO THE TOWN FOR THESE AMENDMENTS.
ONLY A BETTER EXAMPLE AND LOOK AT THE BENEFITS OF THE AMENDMENTS.
STUDENT HOUSING AT NO COST TO U SS C B.
THE FAMILY FRIENDLY HOUSING LEASED TO EMPLOYERS FOR THEIR VALUED EMPLOYEES AREN'T THOSE LONG-TERM BENEFITS FOR OUR TOWN.
THE APPLICANT'S DESIGN STANDARDS ARE NOT FOR WORKER DORMITORIES, WHERE UNRELATED PEOPLE CRAM INTO EIGHT BEDROOM DORMS SO THEY CAN SAVE MONEY TO MOVE SOMEPLACE ELSE.
THIS DEVELOPER ALREADY HAS THE RIGHT TO BUILD 440 BEDROOMS IN SUCH A DORMITORY WITH ONLY 69 PARKING SPOTS.
BUT INSTEAD HE WANTS TO GIVE EMPLOYERS WHAT THEY WANT AND IT DESIGN THAT FITS THE ISLAND CHARACTER.
I ASK THAT YOU KEEP THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN MIND WHERE IT SAYS THE TOWN SHOULD CONTINUE TO ASSESS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND BUILDING CODES TO FOSTER PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT OF NEEDED AND DIVERSE OBTAINABLE HOUSING OPTIONS EVEN WITHOUT A HAMMER.
THIS TEXT AMENDMENT DRIVES HOME A DESIGN FOR FAMILIES WHO WORK ON THE ISLAND.
PLEASE APPROVE THE TEXT AMENDMENTS.
THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, TOWN COUNCIL, MR. MANAGER.
I'M A RESIDENT OF HILTON HEAD PLANTATION.
I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE ISLANDER USE TEXT AMENDMENT.
I BELIEVE THIS AMENDMENT CAN PROVIDE THREE KEY SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS THAT HAVE HAUNTED OUR ISLAND FOR YEARS.
NUMBER ONE, THE REPURPOSING OF AN AREA THAT NEEDS REVITALIZATION AND NEEDED IT FOR DECADES.
LOCAL BUSINESS COMING TOGETHER, SOLVING PROBLEMS, SHOVEL-READY SOLUTION ONLY THE TOWN STANDS IN ITS WAY.
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TO LOWER HIS DENSITY RIGHTS IN ORDER TO MEET THE LOCAL NEED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.THIS IDEA, ALONG WITH ITS LOCATION, IS SHOWN TO HAVE NO IMPACT ON TRAFFIC, THE SEA PINE CIRCLE AND FACT THE LOWER DENSITY OF THE PROJECT SHOULD BE A NET POSITIVE OR NET NEUTRAL ON TA TRAFFIC.
NUMBER THREE, RECOMMITMENT BY THE TOWN TO ITS ONGOING SUPPORT FOR ACADEMIC PROBING PROGRAMMING ON ON THE U S C B CAMPUS.
THE AGENDA PACKET CONTAINS LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE CHANCELLOR AND A LETTER OF INTENT TO LEASE PARKING SPACES OWNED BY U S C B.
RECALL, THE TOWN DONATED THIS LAND TO U S C B IN 2017.
MANY LONGTIME LOCALS WILL REMEMBER THE STRONG DEBATES IN 2015 AND THE MONIES USED TO CREATE THIS BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS.
THIS AMENDMENT HAS A, HAS GREAT SUPPORT AND I URGE YOU TO PASS ON SECOND READING.
LASTLY, OUR TOWN GOVERNMENT WAS CREATED IN 1983 AS A LIMITED SERVICE GOVERNMENT.
MANY OF OUR CITIZENS HAVE MOVED HERE TO ESCAPE LARGE, INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENTS OF THE EAST COAST IN CALIFORNIA LU INTO A FALSE CONSERVATIVE SECURITY.
MANY SEEM TO BE UNAWARE OF THE CHANGES THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE LAST THREE YEARS AS A WI AS WE WITNESS.
ARE WE WITNESSING BIG GOVERNMENT COMING TO HILTON HEAD? THE INCREASE IN SIZE OF THE TOWN BUDGET, THE INCREASE IN STAFF, MORE AND MORE GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS TURNING VIRGIN PROPERTY NOW IN TOWNHOUSE VILLAGES.
UNFORTUNATELY, I BELIEVE THAT WE KNOW THE ANSWER.
HELLO, MY NAME IS BETH ANN CRANE.
I'M A RESIDENT OF 18 WOOD DUCK COURT IN THE CLUB COURSE AREA OF SEA PINES.
AND STRANGELY, I FEEL LIKE I'M LATE TO THE PARTY.
UM, AS ARE MANY OTHERS THAT I DON'T THINK ARE EVEN AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY IN MY COMMUNITY IN SEA PINES IN PARTICULAR.
I THINK I'M THE ONLY PERSON WHO'S COME UP HERE TODAY THAT'S SPOKEN AS A SEA PINES RESIDENT.
OKAY, SORRY, THEN I MISSED THAT.
WITH REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, UM, A WEEK AGO THE TOWN ANNOUNCED THE NORTH POINT PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP PROJECT TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR WORKERS ON HILTON.
HAD AN AREA THAT DOES NOT CURRENTLY EXPERIENCE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES.
IT IS A PROJECT THAT I THINK WILL TRULY HELP IN SOLVING OUR HOUSING CRISIS AND ONE WHICH COULD FORGE A MODEL FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
I HAD BEEN SCRATCHING MY HEAD ALL WEEK AT THE IRONY OF THE SHARP CONTRAST OF THE NORTH POINT PROJECT AND THE JK TILLER PROJECT UP FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY.
AS IT TURNS OUT, I WAS UNAWARE THAT THERE'S THE PROJECT IS NOT AS FOR VOTE TODAY BECAUSE FOR ME, AGAIN, I'M LATE TO THE PARTY.
UM, I FEEL AS THOUGH OBVIOUSLY THIS HAS BEEN SPEARHEADED STRICTLY BY A PRIVATE DEVELOPER CLAIMING THAT THEY WILL PRODUCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHILST ASKING THE TOWN TO MAKE AN UNPRECEDENTED ZONING ACCOMMODATION.
AND WHAT EVERYONE KNOWS IS THE MOST CONGESTED INFRASTRUCTURAL CHALLENGE CHALLENGE AREA ON THE ISLAND.
IN THE END, I BELIEVE NEGATIVE COST OF THIS REZONING IS UNFATHOMABLE AT THIS POINT.
TO ME, THE TOWN IS SELF IMPOSING PARAMETERS ON THE NORTH POINT PROJECT WHERE 50% OF THE HOUSING WILL HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE WORKERS MAKING BETWEEN 16 80% OF THE AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME IN BEAUFORT COUNTY FOREVER.
THE PROJECT BEFORE THE COUNCIL TODAY REQUIRES ONLY 20% OF THE HOUSING TO ACCOMMODATE WORKERS MAKING BETWEEN 60 AND THE 120% OF THE I.
AND THAT REQUIREMENT LASTS FOR ONLY 15 YEARS.
THERE IS ZERO INCENTIVE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO PRICE ANY OF THE HOUSING THAT IS BELOW WHAT SOMEONE MAKING 120% OF THE A M I CAN AFFORD BECAUSE PRICING IT AT THE 120% WILL STILL ALLOW THEM TO COMPLY WITH THE PARAMETERS.
SO IN SIMPLE TERMS, SOMEONE MAKING $93,500 A YEAR WILL QUALIFY FOR AN AFFORDABLE UNIT AND IN THE END RESULT WILL BE THAT THERE WILL BE NO OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY LINE COOK POLICEMAN, STORE CLERK, TEACHER, SERVER GOLF, PRO MAINTENANCE WORKER, CADDY, BANK TELLER, WHOM THIS BUSINESS COMMUNITY AT LARGE DESPERATELY NEEDS TO ATTRACT.
THAT IS, OF COURSE, UNLESS THEY ARE SHOVED LIKE SARDINES INTO MULTIPLE BEDROOM UNITS, WHICH ONLY REQUIRE ONE AND A HALF PARKING SPACES TO BE ALLOTTED TO EACH.
SO I CONTINUE TO SCRATCH MY HEAD.
THERE'S ALSO SEEMINGLY NO INCENTIVE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO COMPLY AT ALL BECAUSE THE PROJECT WILL NOT BE SELF-GOVERNING, AS WILL THE NORTH POINT PROJECT.
WE HAVE SEEN THE OUTCOME OF AQUA TERRA AND THE WATERWALK PROJECTS MAKING THE SAME PROMISES THAT NEVER CAME TO FRUITION.
AND ALL THAT WE WOULD GET OUT OF THIS IS MORE CONGESTION THAN SEA PINE CIRCLE AND POTENTIAL HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, TRIPLE WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR.
WHILE THE SCHMOOZING DEVELOPERS AND THEIR BACKROOM PARTNERS BENEFIT BY LINING THEIR POCKETS MOST POIGNANTLY, I AM BEYOND BEFUDDLED, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE MAJOR LONG-TERM STAKEHOLDERS ON THE SOUTH END OF THE ISLAND AND IN SEA PINES WHO ARE VEHEMENTLY, VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THIS AS I AM.
AND THEIR VOICES ARE NOT BEING HEARD WHEN COMMON SENSE SCREAMS THAT, THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING OTHERWISE.
AS I SAID, I'M LATE TO THE PARTY.
I REALLY DO FEEL AS THOUGH THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIZENS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT HAVE NOT REALLY BEEN AWARE OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
I'M A VERY BUSINESS, VERY BUSY BUSINESS OWNER, AND OF COURSE I NEED HOUSING FOR MY WORKERS AND I CARE ABOUT MY WORKERS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE THE ANSWER TO THAT WITHOUT GREATER, MORE STRINGENT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, REQUIREMENTS.
UM, I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS PROJECT
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NOW FOR MANY MONTHS.ONE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE YEARS.
I TOO HAVE BEEN SCRATCHING MY HEAD 'CAUSE I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION.
TWO, THIS PRIVATE APPROACH TO HOUSING THE WORKFORCE.
I ATTENDED THE TOWN COUNCIL WHERE THEY VOTED WITH ONE DISSENTER TO PUSH A NEW PUBLIC PRIVATE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT FORWARD.
THIS HAPPENED AFTER ONLY ONE MEETING WITH FINANCE COMMITTEE AND ONE WITH TOWN COUNCIL.
MANY ON THE COUNCIL DECLARED THAT IT WAS A CREATIVE SOLUTION.
SO A NONPROFIT ASKING FOR TAXPAYER DOLLARS IS CREATIVE.
UM, WHEREAS THE DEVELOPER WHO HAS ESTABLISHED PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES IS NOT, THE DEVELOPER ISN'T REQUESTING FUNDING OR EVEN TAX CREDITS.
AND HE HAS MADE MANY CONCESSIONS DURING THIS ALMOST THREE, THREE-YEAR PROCESS.
HE HAS AGREED TO HEIGHT AND SETBACK RESTRICTIONS, AGREED TO NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND HAS INCREASED THE PLAN TO 20% WORKFORCE FOR 15 YEARS.
THERE REALLY CAN BE MORE THAN ONE SOLUTION, MORE THAN ONE MODEL.
IN MY MIND, THIS MIXED USE PROJECT IS THE CREATIVE APPROACH TO WORKFORCE HOUSING AND IT DESERVES OUR APPROVAL.
PLEASE VOTE YES ON THE ISLANDER PROJECT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL JOHN CASEY, UH, INDIGO RUN, UH, AS IS THE OVERWHELMING SENTIMENT IN THE ROOM.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S A TEXT AMENDMENT, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC PROJECT.
BUT AS I WALKED UP HERE, I WAS TRYING TO YANK MY FEET OUT OF THE SEMANTIC MORASS IN WHICH WE BECOME MIRED WHEN WE TRY TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN WORTHY AND UNWORTHY WORKERS.
I, I I I, I FIND IT UNBECOMING ACTUALLY THAT I, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAD THE TIME TO BE HERE AND THEY WEREN'T WORKING THEIR BUTTS OFF A BARTENDER AND A SERVER THAT COMBINED MAKE 120% OF A M I WOULD BE AMAZED TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE NOT THE WORKFORCE.
IT WOULD BE ASTOUNDED TO HEAR THAT.
IT, IT, I HEAR THE VERY FEW VOICES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT GET UP AND SAY, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.
WHAT I'M OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? IT FIGHT YOUR OWN FIGHTS.
WHAT YOU THINK ARE THE SOLUTIONS YOU WANT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT SOLUTION IN THIS PROJECT.
IT'S A PRIVATE PROJECT FUNDED BY PRIVATE MONEY WITH YES, INDEED, ONE OF THE MOTIVES BEING PROFIT.
BUT, BUT THE WONDERFUL SYNERGY IS THAT THE COLLEGE BENEFITS, UH, THE, THE BUSINESSES BENEFIT.
THE WORKERS BENEFIT WHEN THEY CAN GET OFF FROM THEIR NON WORKFORCE JOBS AT MIDNIGHT AND DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE 25 MILES.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF, UH, WHAT IS IN ESSENTIALLY THIS PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A TEXT AMENDMENT.
MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT, AND THERE WAS SOME COMMENT UPON PROCEDURE AND ROBERT'S RULES, IS SURE IT WAS UNINTENTIONAL.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAKE LEGAL CALLS, UH, ON, ON THE FLY.
BUT, UH, DURING THE COURSE OF THE FIRST READING IT, THERE WAS FRANKLY GROSS ERRORS IN PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE.
AND IT, IT REALLY, UH, SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
AND, AND THOSE THAT VOTED FOR THIS, YOU HAVE, YOU CAN MAKE PROCESS YOUR FRIEND AND NOT YOUR ENEMY AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS GOES TO A VOTE QUICKLY WITHOUT PROCEDURAL, PROCEDURAL GIMMICKRY, UH, AND THAT IT'S APPROVED.
MY NAME IS JULIE RENO AND, UM, I THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEN AND WOMEN FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
UM, I AM HERE, UM, AS A MEMBER OF CHRIST LUTHERAN CHURCH WHO WAS, UM, PHONE TO THE, THE RESPONSE TO THE CRISIS OF, TO MEKO.
MANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, CAME TO THE HOME COALITION, UM, MEETINGS AND WERE VERY MUCH PART OF THE BEGINNING OF THE
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HOME COALITION AND BRINGING THIS, UM, TO SOME FRUITION TO COME TO THIS POINT ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW.AND, UM, I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK.
AND WHAT WE FOUND IN THE BEGINNING, IT WAS AT THE HOME COALITION, REALLY WAS COLLABORATING WITH THE SAME GOALS AND THE SAME PRINCIPLES THAT, THAT WERE SHARED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.
IT WAS REALLY, UM, EXCITING AND INSPIRING TO SEE THAT A TOWN COULD ACHIEVE THAT.
UM, WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS THIS WONDERFUL DOCUMENT.
I HOPE EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO READ, AND I KNOW THE COUNCIL HAS WORKED FROM THAT AS THE FOUR PILLARS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE ISLAND.
AND AS YOU CONSIDER THESE, THIS DEVELOPER COMING FORWARD FOR THIS PROJECT, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL VOTE ON THAT BASED ON THOSE FOUR PILLARS THAT WERE SO WONDERFULLY DONE AND SHOWED THE VALUES OF THIS TOWN FOR CREATING WORKFORCE HOUSING ON WHAT DO WE STAND AND WHAT DO WE MEASURE SUCCESS BY THOSE FOUR PILLARS.
AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE IN, UM, WHO IS ATTENDING HERE TO LOOK AT THOSE FOUR PILLARS.
I ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO YOUTUBE CHANNEL AND LOOK AT THE HOME COALITION VIDEOS THERE BECAUSE IT INCLUDES KIND OF AN INTRODUCTION TO WHAT WORKFORCE HOUSING WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN IT ALSO HAS AVAILABLE ONE OF THE FIRST ATTEMPTS AT MEETING THAT SOLUTION.
AND THAT IS LIKE KEN CAMPBELL'S, L L C THAT HE'S FORMED, UM, WHICH ALREADY HAS ITS FIRST, ITS FIRST WORKER ON THE ISLAND.
UM, VERY EXCITING TO SEE THAT GOING.
SO THIS WOULD NOT BE THE FIRST ATTEMPT.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CREATIVE ATTEMPTS GOING ON.
I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, UM, PUBLIC PRIVATE COLLABORATIONS.
UM, U S E B IS A PUBLIC INSTITUTION FUNDED BY TAX DOLLARS.
AND SO THIS IS NOT JUST A PRIVATE ENDEAVOR.
SO I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT HERE, AS YOU SUPPORT THIS, YOU ARE ALREADY SUPPORTING TAX DOLLARS BEING USED TO SUPPLY HOUSING.
ONLY 20% WERE COURSE HOUSING IN THIS PRO PROGRAM.
60% TO 120% OF THE A M I IT SHOULD BE 30%.
I WANTED TO BE LAST AND I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP ANY MORE TIME, BUT, UM, I THINK YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE IN HERE UNDERSTOOD THE PRESENTATION.
UH, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING.
IT WAS VERY, VERY HARD TO FOLLOW.
BUT I THINK YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
IT'S, IT'S THE ONLY, IT'S THE ONLY WAY FORWARD.
UH, THIS IS JUST WHERE WE ARE.
UM, AND WHAT I'M THANKFUL ABOUT, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM PROBABLY DON'T UNDERSTAND IS I STUDY CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS AND YOU'RE NOT BREAKING THE LAW.
AND I THINK YOU NEED TO LEARN FROM THAT.
IT'S, IT'S AGAINST CONSTITUTIONAL SOUTH CAROLINA CONSTITUTIONAL LAW TO USE PUBLIC MONIES FOR PRIVATE PURPOSES.
IT'S NOT FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD REASON AND BENEFIT.
SO BY HAVING A PRIVATE DEVELOPER, YOU'VE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION.
WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, IT'S LEGAL AND YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD NOT BREAKING THE LAW.
BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO LEARN FROM THAT.
AND I'D LIKE YOU TO GET BACK TO $600,000 THAT YOU GAVE TO SEA PINES FOR THE DREDGING OF HARBORTOWN THAT WAS ILLEGAL.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LAWSUIT AND THAT'S AN APPEAL DOWNTOWN.
I'D LIKE YOU TO GET THAT MONEY BACK AND I'D LIKE YOU TO STOP USING PRIVATE MONIES OR PUBLIC MONIES FOR PRIVATE PURPOSES.
NOW, THE OTHER THING I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND IS THIS ISLAND IS MADE UP.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 50 YEARS AND WORKED FOR CHARLES FRAZIER AS A YOUNG MAN.
THIS ISLAND DON'T, I'M NOT SO SURE THE PERCENTAGE, BUT ONE THING I THINK WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND IT'S MADE UP OF APPROXIMATELY 70 OR 80% GATED COMMUNITIES.
AM I CORRECT IN THAT PERCENTAGE? APPROXIMATELY.
LIKE I HAVE, LET'S JUST CALL IT 70% PRIVATE GATED COMMUNITIES.
DO WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM, THIS BUREAUCRACY AND THIS GOVERNMENT PROBLEM AND ALL THESE GATED COMMUNITIES? NO, WE DON'T.
YOU KNOW WHY WE DON'T? BECAUSE THEY DEVELOP MASTER LAND PLANS INTO PERPETUITY.
AND THAT DEVELOPERS AND, AND, AND ELECTED OFFICIALS AND, AND WHOEVER COULD NOT BREAK.
SO IF ONE HOUSE, YOU TEAR DOWN ONE HOUSE IN WEXFORD, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU GET TO PUT UP FIVE MORE AND GET TO GET SPECIAL PERMISSION TO DO THAT.
YOU GOTTA LIVE WITHIN THAT, THAT MASTER LAMB PLAN FOREVER.
THAT'S WHERE WE FAILED BEING HERE 50 YEARS, ALAN.
WE SHOULD HAVE DONE A MASTER LAND PLAN.
WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY WITH ALL THIS INSANITY AND ALL THIS BUREAUCRACY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, 70 OR 80% OF US THAT LIVE IN THESE GATED COMMUNITIES WE'RE FUNDING ALL THIS.
AND IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.
MAYBE HARDY VILLE CAN LEARN, ORIGINALLY CAN
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LEARN, BUT WE, WE MADE A BIG MISTAKE AND IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE.HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? B BRENDAN RILEY? I OWN THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR AND ALSO HAVE OVER 600 EMPLOYEES ON HILTON HEAD.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE SAME STRUGGLES THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT 'CAUSE I TAKE CARE OF MY EMPLOYEES.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY FOUR OF YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE UP YOUR VOTE.
YOU DECIDED BEFORE YOU GOT HERE TODAY HOW YOU WERE GONNA VOTE AND WE'RE GONNA LIVE WITH IT.
THIS SPAIN'S PUTTING TOGETHER A PROJECT'S GONNA BE A GREAT PRIVATE PROJECT, BUT GET THE PARKING ON HIS SITE.
IF YOU NEED A VARIANCE, GO VERTICAL.
LET HIM GO AS HIGH AS HE WANTS AND PUT THE PARKING ON SITE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SEEING, AND, UM, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE DIOCESE, MR. BROWN? YES.
UM, I'VE GOT A, I GOT A FEW QUESTIONS HERE.
I'M HOPING THAT SEAN CAN HELP OUT WITH THIS.
UM, TOUCHED ON THE PARKING JUST A LITTLE BIT, SEAN.
UM, AND IF WE WERE TO TAKE OUT THE AGREEMENT WITH U SS C B, CAN WE TALK THE DEVELOPMENT? IT'S A CONSTABLE BROWN.
AGAIN, WITHOUT THE SPECIFIC PROJECT TO REVIEW.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A, A YES OR NO ANSWER.
UM, IF ALL PARKING IS REQUIRED ON SITE, I BELIEVE THE INTENSITY AND THE CONCEPTS THAT WE'VE SEEN WOULD NEED TO BE LESS TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING ON SITE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT.
AND NOT THE PROJECT, BUT THE TWO ARE WORKING TOGETHER BECAUSE THE ONLY REASON WE ARE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT IS BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT.
SO I HAVE TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS AS RELATION TO THE PROJECT.
UM, IN THE SAME VEIN OF THE PARKING DISCUSSION, THE PARKING THAT IS ON U S C B, UM, WHO PAID FOR THAT PARKING WHILE THE, THE, THE U SS C B UM, HOSPITALITY CENTER WAS A TIFF PROJECT THAT WAS FUNDED, UM, THROUGH THE TIFF MECHANISM.
AND THE TIFF PARTNERS WERE THE COUNTY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE SOUTH ISLAND, P S D, AND THE TOWN OF HILTON ED.
OH, IN ESSENCE, TAXPAYER DOLLARS PAID FOR THE, OKAY.
UM, THE NEXT ONE, UM, IS AROUND THE SET ASIDE FOR THE WORKFORCE COMPONENT.
AND THE WAY THAT THE AMENDMENT READS NOW IS 60 TO 120% AND YOU'VE GIVEN US, UH, SORT OF A SAMPLE OF WHAT THE, UH, THE AGREEMENT WILL, WILL LOOK LIKE.
UM, SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR HOW MUCH WILL BE 60%, HOW MUCH WILL BE 70%, 80%, 90 UP TO 120? IS THERE A MECHANISM TO DO SO? UM, SO NOT, NOT CURRENTLY IN THE AGREEMENT.
UM, YOU THE REQUIREMENT AS DRAFTED AND, UM, AND THE ONLY OTHER ONE WE REALLY HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH WAS THE AQUA TERRA WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT, WHICH, WHICH REQUIRED, UH, COMPLIANCE, UM, THEY PROVIDE AFFIDAVIT DURING THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE RENEWAL THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE PROVISIONS, UM, OF THAT, OF THAT, UH, RANGE.
AND SO, UM, CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICITY BUILT IN TO THE CODE TO SAY YOU HAVE TO MEET OR YOU HAVE TO REPORT THE, THE, THE RANGE.
JUST IF YOU MEET THAT RANGE, IN ESSENCE, ALL OF THE SET ASIDE UNITS COULD BE 120% OF THE A M I.
AND THEY COULD BE UP TO 120% OF THE A M I BASED ON HOUSEHOLD INCOME.
AND THEN I GUESS THE LAST, UM, QUESTION, UM, AND I, I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND THIS BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL COME INTO GRIPS WITH, THIS IS NOT WORKFORCE HOUSING, THIS IS HOUSING FOR WORKERS.
I THINK WE'LL COME INTO GRIPS WITH THAT AND THE LETTER OF INTENT AT THE MOMENT THAT POTENTIALLY COULD TURN INTO LONG-TERM LEASES, WHICH MEANS THAT WE WILL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HOUSING FOR WORKERS.
WILL WE HAVE A MECHANISM WITHIN OUR AGREEMENT TO MONITOR OR HOLD ACCOUNTABLE THAT OTHER 80% OF THE PROJECT? UM, NOT, NOT CURRENTLY.
UH, WE DON'T, UH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T REGULATE CONTRACTS WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND, UH, MASTER LEASE AGREEMENTS.
UM, THAT WOULD BE AT THE WHIM OF THE MARKET, BASICALLY.
THANK YOU, MS. UM, YES, I, I APOLOGIZE.
I HAVE A BIT OF BRONCHITIS, SO I'LL, I'LL TRY TO DO MY BEST WITH MY VOICE.
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UM, I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION FOR THE TOWN ATTORNEY.UM, THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, HAS THE RANGE EARNING BETWEEN 60 TO 120%.
UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED SAYS EARNING UP TO 120%.
SO IF ON SECOND READING WE APPROVE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS EARNING BETWEEN 60 TO 120%, THEN DOES IT HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGAIN FOR US TO HAVE ANOTHER SECOND READING THE, THE TEXT THAT IS BEFORE YOU NOW IS TEXT THAT WAS VOTED ON AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE THIS WAS VOTED ON.
GOING BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HASN'T CHANGED ANYTHING E EXCEPT FOR AND FOR, FOR, UH, BASED ON THE TEXT THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU NOW, RIGHT? YEAH, EXCEPT FOR THE TEXT THAT WAS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAYS UP TO 120%.
SO THAT WAS, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY APPROVED.
AND, AND SO THAT WAS A CHANGE FROM WHAT THE TOWN COUNCIL HAD ADOPTED ON THE SECOND, FIRST READING.
UM, WELL, THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PROVE OR DISAPPROVE IT THIS LAST TIME.
BUT I ALSO, BASED ON WHAT WHAT YOU'VE SAID, I I THAT'S, GO AHEAD, SEAN.
SO WE MADE A CLARIFICATION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THE RANGE WAS 60 TO 120, AND THAT'S THE ACTION THAT THEY TOOK WHEN THEY MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO VOTE AND BRING IT TO COUNCIL.
THAT WAS DIFFERENT INFORMATION FROM WHAT I HAD.
DID THAT CLARIFICATION? SO, UM, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD TO COMMENTS, BUT I THINK I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, UM, BUT I THINK IT BEARS REPEATING.
UM, THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT
UM, SO WITH REGARD TO THE TEXT AMENDMENT, UM, I'M LOOKING AT HOW DOES THIS FIT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, WITH OUR ADOPTED STRATEGIES, AND ALSO WITH REGARD TO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, PLANS AND DEFINITIONS THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN ADOPTED.
UM, SO, UM, AND, AND ALSO, IS IT A TAX AMENDMENT? PARDON ME? PRIMARILY JUST FOR ONE PROJECT, WHICH IS ALWAYS TROUBLESOME TO ME BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT LAND USE AMENDMENTS NEED TO BE APPLICABLE ACROSS A WIDER SPECTRUM RATHER THAN TARGETED JUST FOR ONE PROJECT.
UM, SO WITH THAT, HAVING BEEN SAID AND LOOKING AT THE TEXT AMENDMENT ITSELF, I SEE SOME POSITIVES.
ONE IS I'M IN FAVOR OF MIXED USE.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SEEN ALREADY IN THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED.
AND WE HAVE MIXED USE ALREADY IN SEA PINE CIRCLE DISTRICT.
UM, I, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF SHARED PARKING WHERE IT WORKS BECAUSE IN THAT CASE YOU HAVE, UM, LESS SURFACE THAT, UM, IS IMPERMEABLE.
UM, I ALSO AM IN FAVOR OF CONTROLS OVER MASS AND SCALE OF BUILDINGS.
UM, AND, UM, ALSO LIKE TO SEE DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS, UH, REHABBED.
UM, UH, ALSO LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF THE, UM, GUARDRAILS IF YOU WILL, BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN IN FAVOR OF UNDEFINED DENSITY, AND THAT'S A VERY TROUBLESOME FOR ME IN THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.
UM, ALSO, UM, AM IN FAVOR OF WORKFORCE HOUSING.
UM, WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY, UM, IN, IN A LOT OF THE COMMENTS, UM, ARE THAT NOW WE'RE GOING TO DIVIDE WORKFORCE HOUSING INTO LOTS OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
AND I THINK THAT'S UNFORTUNATE, UM, BECAUSE I HONOR AND RESPECT ALL OF OUR WORKFORCE FROM WHATEVER PERCENT THEY EARN.
AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SEPARATE FOLKS OUT BASED ON THEIR INCOME.
AND, AND I I, I CAN'T SAY IT MORE THAN IT'S TROUBLING, UNFORTUNATE REGRETTABLE.
AND I WISH WE WOULD QUIT DOING THAT BECAUSE I CONSIDER ALL FOLKS TO BE OF VALUE NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO AND WHERE THEY LIVE AND WHO THEY ARE.
SO IN, IN LOOKING AT THIS, UM, I'M TROUBLED BY THE FACT THAT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL BEFORE US DOES NOT RESPECT WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED FOR WORKFORCE STANDARDS IN OUR LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE
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AND IN THE FRAMEWORK AND IN OUR ADOPTIVE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, BECAUSE THE SHORTER TIME OF 15 YEARS IS NOT ENOUGH.AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE PERCENTAGE OF A M I GOING OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT TO ME IS NOT IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR WORKFORCE STANDARDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN.
AND WE NOW HAVE A HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE APPOINTED.
THEY'RE MEETING TOMORROW MORNING.
SO IF THERE'S GONNA BE SOME CHANGE IN OUR STANDARDS, THEN I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT THAT HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE HELP US OUT WITH SORTING OUT WHAT SHOULD BE THE STANDARD FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD DELAY THIS.
UM, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, UM, I I DON'T LIKE CHANGING IT WITH THIS LIMITED TEXT AMENDMENT WITHOUT HAVING THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND ADVICE.
I'VE LISTENED TO ALL CONSTITUENTS, SOME OF WHICH HAVE COME HERE, AND SOME OF WHOM HAVE SENT ME EMAILS, CALLED ME ON THE PHONE, I'VE MET WITH FOLKS.
UM, I MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYONE.
UM, I DO THE BEST I CAN AT LOOKING AT ALL THE DATA AND LISTENING TO ALL THE INPUT AND LOOKING AT WHAT OUR, UM, CURRENT LANGUAGE IS WITH REGARD TO PLANS WE'VE ADOPTED AND ACTION THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN.
AND I ALSO LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE.
UM, FOR THOSE WHO THINK I, I DON'T BELIEVE IN HELPING STUDENTS OUT.
I'M, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA SAY THIS RIGHT NOW.
NEITHER ONE OF MY PARENTS GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE, BUT THEY BOTH CARED VERY MUCH ABOUT FOLKS BEING ABLE TO GO TO COLLEGE WHEN THEY CELEBRATED THEIR 50TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY, MY BROTHER'S SISTER AND I DECIDE INSTEAD OF SENDING 'EM ON A TRIP OR GIVING 'EM A GIFT, MY MOM HAD A DAYCARE CENTER AND HAD, SHE DID THAT EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION FOR OVER 35 YEARS.
SO WHAT WE DID FOR THEM WAS WE ESTABLISHED A SCHOLARSHIP FUND AT GASTON COLLEGE IN MY HOMETOWN COUNTY IN HONOR OF MY PARENTS, AN ENDOWED SCHOLARSHIP FUND FOR STUDENTS.
SO THOSE WHO SAY, I DON'T LOOK AFTER STUDENTS AND RESPECT STUDENTS GOING TO COLLEGE, I HOPE YOU RETHINK THAT AT THIS POINT.
I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT.
IT IS MY STRONGLY HELD OPINION THAT THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS BAD PUBLIC POLICY.
ONE, THIS TEXT AMENDMENT SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASES THE DENSITY AND ALTERS THE BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT OF TWO DOZEN PLUS PROPERTIES WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT OR INPUT.
MY KNOWLEDGE, TWO, TAX AMENDMENT IS SPOT ZONING.
IT IS A FACT THAT THE FINANCIAL GOALS OF A SINGLE DEVELOPMENT ENTITY DETERMINE THE NARROWLY CRAFTED LANGUAGE.
AT THE SAME TIME, OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 500 FEET I M U AREA NOT BE ABLE TO REPLICATE THE SUBJECT PROJECT SHOULD THEY WANT TO, TO MAINLY TO THE LACK OF U S C B PARKING AVAILABILITY.
THREE, THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT CIRCUMVENT TWO LONGSTANDING L M O STANDARDS THAT PROTECT OVER AGAINST OVERDEVELOPMENT.
THE TEXT AMENDMENT ALLOWS TWO AND A HALF TIMES GREATER DENSITY IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAN THE EXISTING CODE.
AND IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT HIGHER DENSITY, THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE PERMITS PARKING OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS OFFSITE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY THAT IS PROHIBITED IN THE L M O FOUR.
THIS PROJECT IS PURPORTED TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT NOTHING IN THE TEXT AMENDMENT VALIDATES THAT 80% OF THE PROJECT IS A MARKET RATE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
WITHOUT ANY ASSURANCE, THE UNITS WILL BE OCCUPIED BY ISLAND WORKERS.
ONLY 20% OF THE PROJECT IS DEFINED AS WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND FIVE HOUSING FOR ISLAND WORKERS IS AND WILL BE IN CRITICAL SHORT SUPPLY FOREVER.
AND YET, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT IN THIS PROJECT SUNSETS IN JUST 15 YEARS.
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AND THE OFFSET PAR OFFSITE PARKING AGREEMENT TERMINATES IN 25.AND YET UNDEFINED HIGH DENSITY OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT THERE FOREVER BECAUSE OF THE ABOVE.
COMPROMISES ARE MADE FOR THE BENEFIT OF A SINGLE, SINGLE DEVELOPMENT ENTITY, BUT ARE NOT MATCHED BY A GREATER AND LASTING GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THE MOTION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. RAFFORD? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO RAISE THE POSSIBILITY OF A, UH, SMALL AMENDMENT TO CLARIFY THE DEFINITION OF EDUCATIONAL USE EVENTUALLY, UH, IN THE CODE SECTION, ONE OF THE PROVISIONS THAT CHARACTERIZES EDUCATIONAL USE IS SEMINARIES, BUSINESSES, TRADE SCHOOL AND VOCATIONAL SCHOOLS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ELIMINATE THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, UH, PROVIDED THAT IT IS A MINOR CHANGE THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE FURTHER REVIEW BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, THE MOTION FAILS.
SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS THAT EVERYBODY HAS MADE TONIGHT.
NOT ONLY IN PERSON, BUT AS MS. BRYSON SAID, BOTH THROUGH EMAIL, THROUGH TEXT AND PHONE CALLS.
UM, IT, IT HAS BEEN FOR ALL OF US, A UM, A VERY HEIGHTENED ENDEAVOR.
I ASKED MR. COLLIN EARLIER ABOUT THE ACTUAL DENSITY UNITS ON THE OTHER PROPERTIES.
HE SAID IT WAS LESS THAN WHAT THEY HAD CALCULATED, BUT THEY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE EXERCISE, CALCULATED 31 UNITS AN ACRE.
BUT AF WHEN YOU GO DOWN INTO THE ACTUAL EXERCISE ON EACH PROPERTY, IT COMES IN LESS.
UM, WE NEED A TOOLBOX THAT IS COMPLETE OF DIFFERENT RINGS.
PUBLIC, PUBLIC, PRIVATE, PRIVATE NEED IT ALL.
UM, NOT ONLY IS OUR COMMUNITY IN A SHORTAGE OF HOUSING, BUT SO IS EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY IN THE AREA AND OUR LIVELIHOOD SOMETIMES MIGHT NEED TO, AND I TALK ABOUT OUR LIVELIHOOD AS A COMMUNITY.
UM, THEY HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE SACRIFICE, BUT IF WE DON'T PROVIDE HOUSING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, THEN WE FALTER.
AND THEN WHEN WE FALTER AS A, OUR TOWN GOVERNMENT FALTERS AND OUR COMMUNITY FALTERS, TAX REVENUES GO AWAY.
UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING REALLY NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS PROJECT, MR. JAMES.
I, I, I AGREE WHAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE, UM, AND SACRIFICE THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE MADE.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA CALL THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
THE VOTE IS FOUR TO THREE IN FAVOR OF OKAY.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT DONE.
SO AT, AT THIS TIME, UM, WE'RE GOING TO, WITH A MOTION, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
WE'RE TAKING A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
IF I COULD HAVE EVERYBODY'S, UH, ATTENTION.
AND IF WE COULD, UH, HAVE A MOTION TO COME OUTTA RECESS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[8.a. Consideration of Proposed Ordinance 2023-16 Amending Title 16 of the Municipal Code of the Town of Hilton Head Island, the Land Management Ordinance (LMO) to Amend Single - Family Dwelling Parking Requirements and to Establish Regulations for Single Family Dwelling Floor Area Ratio Requirements - First Reading - Missy Luick, Director of Planning ]
OKAY.NEXT UP, WE HAVE THE FIRST READING OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 16, AMENDING TITLE 16 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE TO AMEND SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING PARKING RE REQUIREMENTS, AND ESTABLISH REGULATIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING FOR FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS.
THIS ITEM WAS SENT BACK TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE ON SEPTEMBER 14TH FOR FURTHER REVIEW.
DUE TO SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL STILL HAD AT THAT MEETING, THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MOVED THAT THE ACTION TAKEN AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING CONCERNING ADOPTION OF THE FLOOR AREA RATIO REGULATIONS AND MAXIMUM LOT SIZE BE RECONSIDERED, AND THAT PARKING BE HANDLED AS A SEPARATE MATTER.
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED TO ELIMINATE 4,000 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM HOUSE SIZE, AND TO RECOMMEND TO TOWN COUNCIL PROVISIONS DEALING WITH FLOOR AREA RATIO AT A LEVEL, LEVEL OF 0.45 TO
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BE INCLUDED, TO TO BE INCLUDED, THAT CONTAINED WITH THE EXTERIOR WALLS OF THE STRUCTURE.THIS ACTION MOVED FORWARD WITH A VOTE OF THREE ONE.
MS. LUECK, THANK YOU, UH, MS. C LU, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD.
UM, GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR AND MR. ORLANDO.
UM, YOU'RE NOT GONNA TALK AS LONG AS SEAN DID ALL
WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE FLOOR AREA RATIO, UH, FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND THE SINGLE FAMILY PARKING REQUIREMENTS AMENDMENT.
UM, THIS IS PART OF THE, UH, PHASE FOUR A OF OUR FIVE PHASE L M O AMENDMENT PROJECT.
UM, AND, UH, THERE IS AN ORDINANCE, UH, BEFORE YOU TODAY.
SO THE OVERALL PURPOSE OF, UH, THESE AMENDMENTS WAS TO ESTABLISH REGULATIONS FOR SINGLE FLAM FAMILY FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS TO EFFECTIVELY REGULATE THE VOLUME AND PLACEMENT OF HOMES, UM, BASED ON THE STRUCTURE SIZE IN RELATION TO THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS TO AMEND SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO ALIGN SINGLE FAMILY USE TYPE TO THE SIZE OF THE DWELLING UNIT.
UM, ADVANCING THESE ITEMS WAS A PRIORITY THAT WAS IDENTIFIED BY THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE IN JUNE, UM, AND WAS REALLY TO ADDRESS IN ADVANCE, UM, THESE AMENDMENTS TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THAT MASS AND SCALE AND INTENSITY ON SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES.
UM, THESE ARE RELATED TO SOLVING SOME OF THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT AND LACK OF PARKING FOR SINGLE FAMILY USES IN SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, SOME OF THOSE, UM, COMMUNITY CONCERNS WERE RAISED BY RESIDENTS IN THE JONESVILLE AREA, IN FOREST BEACH, IN FOLLY FIELD, AND BRADLEY CIRCLE NEIGHBORHOODS TO NAME A FEW.
SO THIS, UM, AMENDMENT HAS GONE THROUGH, UH, SOME OF ITS PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MATTER IN JULY, UH, JULY 27.
UM, AGAIN, THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, UH, CONSIDERED THIS AMENDMENT TWICE, FIRST ON AUGUST 10TH, AND THEN AGAIN ON SEPTEMBER 14TH.
UM, AND TODAY IS FIRST READING OF COUNSEL.
UM, THE AMENDMENT SET HAS CHANGED SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THERE WILL BE A REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE REMANDED BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW OF THOSE DEVIATIONS.
SO WHAT IS FLOOR AREA RATIO? UM, FLOOR AREA RATIO DOES REGULATE, UM, THE BULK AND PLACEMENT OF HOMES IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE LOT SIZE, UM, BEFORE YOU IS, UH, A SCHEMATIC THAT SHOWS WHAT GROSS FLOOR AREA IS.
UM, SO YOU HAVE THE STRUCTURE, SIZE, AND THE LOT AREA.
IT'S A, IT'S A RATIO THAT, THAT INCLUDES THE FLOOR AREA RATIO CALCULATION, WHICH IS TYPICALLY DESCRIBED AS A DECIMAL.
SO WHILE FLOOR AREA RATIO, UM, IS A SEPARATE CALCULATION, UH, THEN DENSITY DENSITY IS, UM, THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS PER NET ACRE.
IT CERTAINLY DOES REGULATE HOW MUCH DENSITY CAN BE ACCOMMODATED ON A LOT.
UM, FLOOR AIR RATIO IS A PLANNING TOOL THAT'S UTILIZED, UM, IN PLANNING AND ZONING TO REGULATE SCALE AND MASSING OF, OF BUILDINGS TO A SITE, UM, FLOOR AIR RATIO, ALONG WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENT FORM STANDARDS SUCH AS SETBACKS AND BUFFERS, IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, UM, HEIGHT OR OTHER DEVELOPMENT FORM STANDARDS THAT ALSO, UM, REGULATE THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT ON, ON A PARTICULAR LOT.
SO FOR THE AMENDMENT THAT'S BEFORE US TODAY, UM, THE PROPOSED DEFINITION FOR FLOOR AREA RATIO IS THE MEASUREMENT OF A BUILDING'S GROSS FLOOR AREA IN RELATION TO THE SIZE OF THE LOT ON WHICH THE BUILDING IS LOCATED ON.
FLOOR AREA RATIO IS EXPRESSED BY A DECIMAL NUMBER AND IS DERIVED BY DIVIDING THE TOTAL GROSS FLOOR AREA, FLOOR AREA OF THE BUILDING BY THE NET ACREAGE OF THE LOT.
UM, BECAUSE THE DEFINITION OF FLOOR AREA RATIO IS BASED ON OUR EXISTING DEFINITION OF GROSS FLOOR AREA.
UM, THIS GRAPHIC THAT IS HERE SHOWS A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE AND AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT WOULD MAKE UP THE TOTAL GROSS FLOOR AREA ON THE LOT THAT IS DEPICTED HERE.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, THE GROSS FLOOR AREA THAT'S DIVIDED BY THE LOT SIZE TO, UH, COMPUTE THE FLOOR FLOOR AREA RATIO.
UM, SO OUR EXISTING DEFINITION OF GROSS FLOOR AREA INCLUDES THE AREA INSIDE THE PERIMETER OF THE EXTERIOR WALLS FOR A BUILDING OR OTHER STRUCTURE THAT DOESN'T DEDUCT CORRIDOR, STAIRS, CLOSETS, OR THICKNESS OF WALLS, COLUMNS, OR OTHER FEATURES THAT'S EXCLUSIVE OF AREAS THAT ARE OPEN AND UNOBSTRUCTED TO THE SKY.
THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS APPLICABLE ARE ALL OF THE AREAS THAT ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY USE EXCEPT FOR THE PLAN
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DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS.SO THAT INCLUDES, UM, THE R S F THREE FIVE AND SIX, RMM FOUR, UH, EIGHT AND 12, THE LC, UM, MF, V N C R D S W M U DISTRICTS.
AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FLOOR AREA RATIO IN THREE OF OUR CHARACTER OVERLAY DISTRICTS THAT IS IN PLACE.
AND THAT INCLUDES, UM, FOUR SPEECH VOLLEY FIELD AND HOLIDAY HOMES HAVE AN EXISTING FLOOR AREA RATIO.
SO THE PROPOSED, UH, FLOOR AREA RATIO CHANGE THAT'S IN THE CURRENT AMENDMENT SET IS TO PROPOSE A FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 0.45, UM, THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY CHANGES TO THE EXISTING, UH, FLOOR AREA RATIOS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CURRENT OVERLAY DISTRICTS.
THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE THAT'S PART OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT.
AGAIN, IT INCLUDES THE DEFINITION OF FLOOR AREA RATIO, UH, THAT I ALREADY READ.
SO HOW DID WE GET TO SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS? WE LOOKED AT SOME DATA, UM, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN, UM, OUR ANALYSIS THROUGH THE PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS.
THE TABLE HERE SHOWS, UM, VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS, AVERAGE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE, AVERAGE LOT SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND THEN AN AVERAGE FLOOR AREA RATIO BASED ON THOSE AVERAGES.
UM, IT SHOWS THAT THERE'S A RANGE OF OF FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT WE ANALYZED AND, UM, THAT THE AVERAGE OF THE AVERAGE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE AVERAGE LOT SIZES WAS AN AVERAGE F A R OF 0.32.
UM, AND ALSO BEFORE YOU SHOWS THE EXISTING FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS IN OUR EXISTING CHARACTER OVERLAY DISTRICTS FOUR SPEECH HAS A 0.55 FLOOR AREA RATIO.
AND THE OTHER TWO, UM, CHARACTER OVERLAYS HAVE A FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 0.45.
AND WHERE THEY DIFFER ARE THE MAXIMUM HOME SIZES WITHIN EACH OF THOSE EXISTING OVERLAYS, WHERE THE FOUR SPEECH HAS A MAXIMUM HOME SIZE OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
FOLLY FIELD HAS A MAXIMUM HOME SIZE OF 4,500 SQUARE FEET AND HOLIDAY HOMES HAS A MAXIMUM HOME SIZE OF 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
WE ALSO ANALYZED IN OUR 2022 BUILDING PERMIT DATA, AND, UM, AND THERE WERE WITHIN, UM, WE HAD ACTUALLY, UH, 156 PROPERTIES, UM, IN THAT PERMIT DATA SET.
UM, BUT 49 OF THOSE WERE IN NON, UH, PD, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, UH, ZONED AREAS.
UM, AND THE HIGHEST AVERAGE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS 6,214.
UM, IN, AGAIN, THE 2022 YEAR, THE MINIMUM, UM, WAS 1,216 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND THAT WAS IN THE R FOUR DISTRICT, AND THE MAXIMUM WAS 8,328 SQUARE FEET.
AND THAT WAS IN THE R EIGHT DISTRICT.
AND THE MEDIAN MEDIAN OF ALL OF THE 156 PROPERTIES, UM, FOR HOME SIZE WAS 5,290 SQUARE FEET.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE PREVIOUS FIVE YEARS OF BUILDING PERMIT DATA, UM, AND LOOKED AT THAT IN A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE THE AVERAGE FIVE YEAR NEW BUILD IN FOREST BEACH, VOLLEY FIELD HOLIDAY HOMES, AS WELL AS IN SOME OF OUR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE RANGE OF FLOOR AREA RATIOS, AND THEN THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE OF THAT FIVE-YEAR DATA.
UM, LESS THAN 10% OF OF THE NINE NINE PROPERTIES IN FOREST BEACH ARE CLOSE TO THE EXISTING, UH, FLOOR AREA RATIO CAP.
UM, THE DATA AND FOLLY FIELD SHOW THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION DOES MEET THE FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENT, BUT THAT SOME OF THE HOMES BUILT IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES DO EXCEED THE FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
UM, AND THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS HAVE LARGER LOT SIZES AND AVERAGE BUILDING SIZE OF AROUND 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, ALSO WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE FLOOR AREA RATIOS THAT EXCEED 0.45, AND THOSE INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, FOREST BEACH, SINGLETON BEACH SAND CASTLE BY THE SEA, UM, CAROLINA ISLES, HAMMOCK BREEZE, BERMUDA POINT, TAN Z LEAF, JARVIS CREEK.
SO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS AND, UM, THE, THE SCALE OF THE HOME TO THE LOT SIZE, UM, THOSE ARE IN EXCESS OF, OF 0.45.
UM, WE DID ALSO LOOK AT THE HIGHEST AVERAGE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AND, UM, THE RESORT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT HAS THE HIGHEST AVERAGE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE DATA THAT WE REVIEWED.
UM, HOWEVER, WITHIN THAT DATASET, THE, THE LARGEST OR MAJORITY OF THOSE PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT FIVE-YEAR DATASET ARE IN THE ARMED FOUR DISTRICT.
UM, WE ALSO LOOKED AT, UM, THE BRADLEY CIRCLE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, SPECIFICALLY, AND THE AVERAGE
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LOT SIZE THERE IS 0.18 WITH AN AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 6,183.UM, AND IT HAS BOTH R M EIGHT, UH, ZONING AS WELL AS RESORT DEVELOPMENT ZONING.
UM, AND THERE ARE HOMES, UH, WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR AREA THAT WERE BUILT WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT EXCEED AN F A R OF ONE.
SO WE HAVE, UM, A SHORTER SERIES OF, OF FLOOR AREA RATIO IMAGES, UH, THAN WE, UM, THAT WE DISPLAYED AT THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE.
UM, BUT THE DATA SET SHOWS, UM, THE, THE ROAD, UM, A FLOOR AREA RATIO, THE HOME SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE LOT SIZE, AND WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE PROPERTY IS A 4% OR 6% PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEY GO FROM THE LOWEST F A R TO THE HIGHEST.
UM, THIS HAPPENS TO BE A FAMILY COMPOUND DEVELOPMENT.
HERE'S A, A HOME ON WALKING HORSE STREET THAT HAS AN F A R OF 0.21 WITH A HOME SIZE OF OVER 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
HERE'S A HOME ON ROWBOAT ROAD WITH AN F A R OF 0.29 AND A HOME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 5,148.
HERE'S A HOME ON FOLLY FIELD ROAD WITH AN F A R OF 0.32, AND A HOME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 3,585 AND A HOME ON AZALEA STREET WITH A FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 0.46 AND A HOME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 3,674 AND A HOME ON CIRCLE WOOD DRIVE WITH A FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 0.58 AND A HOME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 2,647.
HERE'S A HOME ON OLD STONY LANE WITH AN F A R OF 0.62 AND A HOME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 2,436.
AND THEN FINALLY A HOME ON CAESAR PLACE WITH A FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 1.16 HOME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 1,877.
SO WITHIN THE FIVE YEAR DATA SET THAT WE LOOKED AT, UM, IT WAS, WE HAD, UM, THESE ARE ALL CONSIDERED NEW CONSTRUCTION, UM, NOT RENOVATION.
UH, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 1,212 PROPERTIES.
UM, NEARLY HALF OF THOSE 520 ARE LOCATED OUTSIDE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS.
AND OF THOSE, UH, 520, NEARLY 40%, UM, HAVE MORE THAN 4,000 SQUARE FEET ACROSS FLOOR AREA.
UM, AND ABOUT 16% OF THOSE WERE BETWEEN THE FLOOR AREA RATIOS OF 0.32 AND, AND 0.45.
UM, THE PROPOSED, UM, CODE INCLUDES FAMILY COMPOUNDS AS SINGLE FAMILY USE, AND SO THEY WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO THE FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS, ALL DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED NON-CONFORMING AS PART OF THIS.
THERE, THERE LIKELY WILL BE A NUMBER OF HOMES, UM, THAT WILL BECOME LEGAL NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES.
UM, OUR NON-CONFORMITY SECTION, UM, WITHIN THE CODE THAT CHAPTER, UM, GOVERNS HOW WE CAN REGULATE OR PROVIDE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
AND IF THEY CAN MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SUBSTITUTION OF NONCONFORMITIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT, THEN THOSE HOMES COULD REDEVELOP, UM, WITHIN THESE PARAMETERS.
UM, AND THERE'S SOME CRITERIA FOR REVIEW FOR SUBSTITUTION OF NONCONFORMITIES THAT IS THE CONCLUSION OF THE FLOOR AREA RATIO, PORTION OF THE AMENDMENT.
AND I CAN MOVE OVER INTO THE PARKING UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS BEFORE I DO.
SO YEAH, LET, LET YEAH, CONTINUE ON.
UM, SO THE PURPOSE OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IS TO, UM, REVIEW WHAT IS NECESSARY BY THE, THE USE THAT GENERATES THE PARKING NEEDS.
SO THE INTENSITY OF SINGLE FAMILY USE, UM, OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE AN ATTEMPT TO MINIMIZE SPILLOVER PARKING ON PUBLIC STREETS.
UM, PARKING CALCULATIONS ARE, UM, FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL, TYPICALLY A ONE PER THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF THAT PARTICULAR USE.
UM, BUT FOR RESIDENTIAL USE, THAT'S TYPICALLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF, OF SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT.
UM, WE PROVIDED, UM, SOME TABLES THAT PROVIDED OPTIONS FOR, UH, PARKING CALIBRATION, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE TABLES, UM, IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
SO THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY PARKING, UH, REQUIREMENTS, OR THIS AMENDMENT APPLIES TO ALL SINGLE FAMILY, UM, USE WITHIN THE ISLAND.
SO THAT INCLUDES THE OVERLAYS, IT INCLUDES ALL OF THE DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY USE, INCLUDING THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS.
UM, AND THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE PARKING, UM, AS FELLOWS,
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UM, IT PROPOSES TWO PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR UP TO 2000 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA, AND ONE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE REQUIRED FOR EACH 750 SQUARE FEET OR PORTION THEREOF, OVER AND ABOVE 2000 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS GROSS FLOOR AREA.DRIVEWAY AREAS NOT LOCATED WITH ANY REQUIRED BUFFER MAY BE COUNTED FOR PARKING.
SO AGAIN, THIS USE, UM, IS FOR ALL SINGLE FAMILY, UH, USE TYPES.
UM, AND, AND THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO THIS AMENDMENT.
AGAIN, HERE ARE SOME OF THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THAT.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE TABLES, UM, THAT SHOW, UM, WHAT WE ANALYZED AND THE EXISTING REQUIREMENTS, UM, ARE EXISTING PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE THE TOP LINE.
THE EXISTING, UM, OVERLAY DISTRICT PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE THIS GRAY LINE RIGHT HERE.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT'S PROPOSED IN THIS AMENDMENT.
SO WITHIN THESE TABLES, UM, YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU HAVE EXISTING A FOUR BEDROOM HOME AND WHAT THE PARKING WOULD BE FOR OUR EXISTING CODE, AND THEN HOW IT'S ADJUSTED WITH THE PROPOSAL.
SO, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN THE PARKING.
IT'S EITHER EQUAL TO OR A LITTLE BIT GREATER, UM, FOR, UH, WHEN YOU'RE WITHIN THE CHARACTER OVERLAY DISTRICTS TO WHAT'S PROPOSED.
UM, BUT IT COULD BE, UM, AN INCREASE OF, UH, OOPS, SORRY.
UM, A NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
IT COULD DOUBLE, UM, DEPENDING ON, UH, THE SIZE OF THE HOME.
UM, AND, UM, IF YOU HAD A 4,500 SQUARE FOOT HOME, FOR EXAMPLE, THE EXISTING PARKING REQUIREMENT WOULD BE THREE, AND IT WOULD BE SIX UNDER THIS PROPOSAL.
AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCES AMONG THE HOME SIZES, WHAT WAS CURRENT IN THE EXISTING CODE, WHAT WAS CURRENT WITHIN THE OVERLAYS, AND WHAT'S PROPOSED TO BE APPLIED EQUALLY, UM, AMONG ALL SINGLE FAMILY, INCLUDING THE OVERLAYS.
SO AGAIN, THE PARKING APPLIES.
UM, WHETHER IF SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO DO AN ADDITION TO A HOME AND THEIR HOME SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS INCREASED, THEN THAT WOULD INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE HOME.
AND AGAIN, UM, WE WOULD USE THE SIZE OF THE HOME TO CALIBRATE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHETHER IT'S A NEW BUILD OR THERE'S AN ADDITION TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOME, UH, THE PARKING WOULD BE APPLICABLE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, UH, THE EFFECTS OF THE PARKING, UM, AS, AS IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE COMPARISON TABLES, IT COULD BE, UM, THAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS DOUBLE.
IT COULD BE THAT THE INCREASE BY ONE, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE HOME AND IF THEY WERE WITHIN A CHARACTER OVERLAY DISTRICT PRIOR TO OR WITHIN, UH, ONE OF THE DISTRICTS THAT ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IS BASED ON AN AREA.
UM, SO THE PARKING SPACES COULD BE WITHIN A GARAGE.
UM, THEY COULD BE, UM, ON SURFACE AREA.
THE PARKING DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT REMAINS THE SAME.
IT'S A NINE BY 18 PARKING SPACE.
UM, THERE COULD BE AN IMPLICATION THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE ON THE LOTS IF THE PARKING WAS TO BE IMPERVIOUS.
HOWEVER, THE PARKING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, IT COULD BE PERVIOUS MATERIAL AS WELL.
AGAIN, THE PARKING, UH, REQUIREMENTS APPLY TO, UM, ALL THE DISTRICTS UP HERE ON THE SCREEN.
THEY'RE ALL DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY USE, AND THAT INCLUDES THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS AND THE OVERLAYS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS AMENDMENT.
THE REVIEW STANDARDS, THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT JUST LIKE THE ISLANDER MIXED USE.
THESE ARE THE SAME, UH, TEXT AMENDMENT REVIEW STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE FOR ANY TEXT AMENDMENT, UH, THAT IS CONSIDERED.
UM, IS IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMP PLAN? IS IT REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS? IS IT, DOES IT ADDRESS A COMMUNITY NEED? UM, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
UM, THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE ARE SEVERAL, UM, GOALS WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT MEET THE OBJECTIVES FOR CALIBRATING PARKING AND, UM, SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXCELLENCE INCLUDE BUILDING AN ISLAND COMMUNITY DEFINED BY SMALL COMMUNITIES OPERATING COLLABORATIVELY AND BY A DIVERSE ECONOMIC FOCUS.
CONNECTED STRATEGIES INCLUDE PROVIDING APPROPRIATE MODIFICATIONS TO THE ZONING, REG DESIGNATIONS, AND LAND USE REGULATIONS TO MEET COMMUNITY NEEDS WHILE MAINTAINING ISLAND CHARACTER.
OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENVIRONMENT INCLUDE TO ANTICIPATE FUTURE CLIMATE ENVIRONMENT THAT COULD IMPACT THE HUMAN FOOTPRINT AND PRESENCE ON THE ISLAND.
INFRASTRUCTURE STRATEGIES INCLUDE EDUCATING RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ABOUT AIR QUALITY AND NOISE POLLUTION, AND THEIR RELATIVE IMPACTS ON HUMAN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.
AND ECONOMIC STRATEGIES INCLUDE TO ENCOURAGE AND OFFER OPTIONS FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT OF STRUCTURES AND SITES.
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SO THE, THE BASIS OR PURPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT, UM, FOR BOTH FLOOR AIR RATIO AND SINGLE FAMILY USE PARKING WAS RECOMMENDED DUE TO THE CHANGING CONDITIONS AND DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED REGARDING RESIDENTIAL DWELLING, SHAPE, SIZE, AND SCALE DENSITY, CONSISTENT WITH THE L M O PREVENTION OF OVERCROWDING, OVERCROWDING OF LAND AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT FOLLOW THE DESIRED CHARACTER AND DEVELOPMENT FORM OF THE ISLAND.UM, THE RATIONALE FINDINGS DETAIL THE RISE IN LARGER HOME DWELLING SIZES THAT HAVE INCREASED THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT ACROSS ALL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS.
AND THE GOAL FOR BOTH FLOOR AREA RATIO AND THE PARKING REGULATION IS TO ENSURE SAFE AND EFFICIENT ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WITH CONCURRENT PROVISIONS OF APPROPRIATE AND NECESSARY DEVELOPMENT PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
AND FINALLY, UM, BEFORE YOU TODAY IS, UH, THE PROPOSAL TO, UM, RECOMMEND, UM, THIS, THAT YOU CONSIDER THIS AMENDMENT TODAY.
UM, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION AS IT IS PRESENTED, BUT, UH, I WAS GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION.
COULD IT BE DO THAT THEN WE NEED TO GET A SECOND.
SO IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND PARKING.
WE CAN DISCUSS THE PARKING NOW IF YOU WANT TO.
THEN STRANGE, SINCE YOU MADE THAT MOTION, I'LL LET YOU GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.
UM, AT THE P P C, THIS ONE TROUBLED ME, UH, BECAUSE HERE WE ARE, UH, ALMOST DOUBLING THE IMPERVIOUS COVER, UH, UH, ON A SITE, WHICH TROUBLES ME BECAUSE OF, UM, UH, RUNOFF, BECAUSE OF THE NEED TO CUT TREES DOWN AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO I, I DO THINK THAT THIS ORDINANCE IMPACTS US, UH, IN A DIRECTION THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH, UH, SORT OF THE F A R CONVERSATION.
I THINK THE TWO ARE SOMEWHAT IN CONFLICT.
MY, MY, MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AS LONG AS HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THE ADDITIONAL PARKING, UM, IS PERVIOUS, UH, UH, UH, MATERIALS OR PARKED UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE.
IF THEY'RE UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE, THEN IT'S IMPERVIOUS COVERED ANYWAY.
SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE RESTRICTING THE NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL PARKS, UH, PARKING, UH, SPACES, UH, FOR THOSE REASONS.
AND THEN SECONDLY, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE REALLY ADDRESSING HERE? AND I THINK IT IS BECAUSE OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UH, ISSUES WHERE A LARGE HOUSE NEAR THE BEACH, UH, NEEDS AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, UH, OCCUPYING THE HOUSE AT ONE TIME.
SO I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE AREN'T SOLVING AN S T R PROBLEM AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER HIGH PRIORITY ISSUES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THAT MY RECOMMENDATION THERE WOULD BE, IF WE ARE GOING TO ADOPT THAT LINE, UH, INCREASE THAT, UH, 50% OF THE INCREASED UNIT, UH, SPACES ARE PERVIOUS MATERIALS OR PARKED UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE.
UH, I'LL GO, I'LL GO MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT.
THERE ARE SOME DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE LONGER THAN OTHERS AND CAN OBVIOUSLY ACCOMMODATE THAT THOSE CARS.
SO IF THE DRIVEWAY IS LONG TO GET TO A HOUSE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCE THAN SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT WE SAW WHERE BASICALLY THE ENTIRE FRONT YARD WAS ASPHALT OR CONCRETE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO RECOGNIZE AS A PROBLEM.
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THANK YOU, MAYOR.I, I AGREE WITH MR. AMES CONCERNS ABOUT INCREASING, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, BUT IT OCCURS TO ME THAT IF WE ARE PROPOSING A CHANGE TO THIS PARTICULAR DRAFTED ORDINANCE, IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO COMMITTEE.
I THINK THAT'S A CHANGE OF SUBSTANCE, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
AND I WOULD SAY IN MY MIND THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT THAT'S UP TO THE REST OF COUNSEL.
UH, THIS APPLIES ALSO TO BEHIND THE GATES, DOESN'T IT? YES.
SO I THINK THAT 70% OF THE POPULATION WHO ARE FULL-TIME RE WHO OF THE 75, 70% WHO LIVE BEHIND THE GATES AND ARE FULL-TIME RESIDENTS, PROBABLY DON'T WANT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE, HAVE MORE ASPHALT THAN WHAT'S THERE ALREADY.
AND SO I, I'M VERY CONCERNED, I THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE OUGHT TO THINK THROUGH, BUT I'M OPEN TO OTHER PEOPLE'S COMMENTS.
UM, WELL, WITH REGARD TO PARKING, IMPERVIOUS, PERVIOUS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT DEFINITION IN OF ITSELF HAS, IS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE WE KNOW SOME, UM, PAVERS, ET CETERA, THAT SEEM AS THOUGH THEY'RE PERVIOUS, UM, OPTION ACTUALLY BECOME, UM, IMPERVIOUS OVER TIME.
AND IT DEPENDS IF YOU, EVEN OUT OF THE BOX, IF YOU SEAL IT, IF YOU CLOSE THE GAPS UP.
SO WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE STARTING TO DO IS, UM, DESIGN AND PLAN EACH INDIVIDUAL HOME, AND WE DON'T DO THAT.
UM, AND SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF PUSHING IT BACK.
FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND IF THERE ARE TWEAKS WITH REGARD TO WHAT CONSTITUTES IMPERVIOUS OR AN IMPERVIOUS, UM, UM, PARKING SURFACE, THEN WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT WE CAN DO THAT AFTER WE GET SOMETHING MOVED FORWARD AND CONTINUE.
UM, ON, SO I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF SENDING THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE.
I AM IN FAVOR OF VOTING ON THIS TODAY, AND IF IT NEEDS SOME WORK AFTERWARDS, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT DEFINITION AND THOSE, UM, GOING FORWARD.
BUT THE MORE WE GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE ARE DESIGNING THEIR HOUSE, WHERE THEY CAN PARK THEIR CARS, ET CETERA, UM, I, I THINK THE FURTHER WE GET AWAY FROM WHAT THE INTENT OF THIS PARKING REQUIREMENT ACTUALLY IS SUPPOSED TO SOLVE.
AND, AND WHAT IS THE INTENT? WELL, THE, THE INTENT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WAS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE OVER TIME IT'S BECOME QUITE APPARENT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING SPOTS AND PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN THE ROAD, PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN THE GRASS, PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLACES.
AND YOU BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE WITH REGARD TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
AND WHILE I CAN IMAGINE HOW THE EMPHASIS COULD BE DRAWN TO THAT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR AND OBVIOUS THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE, WE DON'T KNOW WHICH SINGLE FAMILY HOME WILL BECOME A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
AND SO WE MUST PREPARE, UM, FOR ADEQUATE PARKING ON SITE OF EVERY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT AND NOT JUST THOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ASSUME MAY OR MAY NOT BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IN THE FUTURE.
SEEMS TO ME, MR. MAYOR, THAT, UM, THE ORDER, THE, A SERIOUS SITUATION BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DISTRICTS ON THE ISLAND THAT ARE MORE PRONE TO THE ISSUE AT HAND THAT NEED MORE ATTENTION THAN OTHERS.
UM, SO MR, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, UM, HAVE, HAVE WE, UH, MEASURED THIS PARKING AGAINST THE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS, FAMILY COMPOUNDS AS WELL? UH, IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE, UH, TO THOSE THAT ARE, IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY USE REQUIREMENT, SO IT WOULD APPLY TO FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AND FAMILY COMPOUNDS.
I'M WONDERING IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME EFFECT A NEGATIVE FASHION TOWARDS THOSE OR NOT? UM, BY LOOKING AT THE TABLES, THE HOME SIZES THAT ARE SMALLER, IT DOESN'T IMPACT THEM AS GREATLY.
UM, THE LARGER HOME SIZE OBVIOUSLY HAVE, UH, A GREATER PARKING REQUIREMENT WITH THIS NEW CALCULATION.
SO GOING FROM TWO TO FOUR BASED ON 2,500 SQUARE FEET COULD POSE A PROBLEM IN OTHER AREAS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING AT HAND WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
SO I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED, EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT ON PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, THAT IT GO BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER REVIEW SO THAT WE KNOW THE, THE POSITIVE EFFECTS OF THIS AND THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF THIS AND UNDERSTANDING COMPLETELY THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE HOUR.
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UM, I HAVE TO ADMIT, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AT THIS POINT, UM, WHICH IS NOT UNUSUAL.I DO GET CONFUSED FROM TIME TO TIME.
UM, BUT, UM, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. BROWN IS SAYING ABOUT HOW DOES THIS APPLY TO FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AND FAMILY COMPOUNDS, KNOWING THAT THERE'S A VARIETY OF, OF HOMES THAT MAY BE WITHIN FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AND FAMILY COMPOUNDS.
UM, BUT I'M ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, THE SIZE OF SOME OF THESE HOMES AND NOT HAVING ADEQUATE PARKING AND THE IMPACT ON, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, WHERE THEY EXIST.
SO I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, BUT I'M ALSO, UM, MINDFUL OF, AND I SUPPORT MORE, UM, IMPERVIOUS AREA RATHER THAN PERVIOUS AREA.
AND I DO REMEMBER THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DEBATED A GOOD BIT ABOUT THAT.
UH, BUT WHAT I'M MOSTLY CONFUSED ABOUT IS THAT THE, UH, MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE SECOND.
UM, AND NOW THE MAKE THE MOTION AND THE MAKER THE SECOND WANT TO CHANGE IT
SO, UM, BUT IN ORDER FOR IT TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, WE WOULD NEED AN AMENDMENT TO THAT THEN IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE TABLED, IT COULD BE TABLED AND SENT BACK WHAT COULD BE, UH, OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M PUZZLED ABOUT.
UM, IS THAT EITHER NO, IF THERE, IF THERE ARE FOUR, FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR OF IT, IT CAN GO ON.
AND, AND IF NOT, THEN THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER MOTION.
NOW I'M SOMEWHAT LESS CONFUSED, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
MR. ALFRED, UH, WAS CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THE USE OF, UH, TYPE OF PARKING SPACE WHERE THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY OPEN BRICKS COVERED WITH GRASS.
WE HAVE A FAIR NUMBER OF THOSE IN THE LOTS AND SEA PINES.
SO IT, IT'S A PIOUS SURFACE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE GRASS.
UM, YEAH, IT, IT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE A PARKING SPACE THAT'S AN APPROVED SURFACE.
IT, IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE GRASS PAVERS.
IT, IT CAN BE A VARIETY OF SURFACE TYPES THAT WOULD BE DESIRABLE AND OR POSSIBLE IN SOME WAY TO ENCOURAGE, OR MAYBE EVEN TO ENCOURAGE, RATHER THAN REQUIRE THAT TYPE OF, OF AN APPROACH, IT COULD BE ENCOURAGED.
RIGHT NOW, THE TEXT AMENDMENT DOESN'T REQUIRE IT AS WRITTEN, MR. MAYOR, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS THING GO DOWN AND FAILING ON FIRST READING, BUT I DO FAVOR, AS I SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO, HAVING FURTHER REVIEW OF THIS BY THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE, WHICH I ASSUME IS THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO MOVE TO REFER IT BACK.
I I, I WAS GONNA ASK ATTORNEY, OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION TO REFER IT BACK TO COMMITTEE MAYOR, IF I MAKE IT, UM, THE FLOOR FOR JUST A MOMENT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW LONG IT WAS IN PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, HOW MANY TIMES IT WAS DISCUSSED.
I THINK WE WERE ALL THERE AND IT'S BEEN MORE THAN ONCE, MORE THAN TWICE, MORE THAN THREE TIMES.
AND SO I'M CONFUSED BY THE CONFUSION, QUITE HONESTLY.
AND WHAT I HEAR IS JUST MORE TALK AND NOT OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT MIGHT COME FORWARD.
IF IT WERE, UM, SENT BACK TO PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, IF WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THE FACT THAT THERE IS A PARKING ISSUE ACROSS THE ISLAND AND THIS IS A SOLUTION THAT WILL HELP THEN, AND NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT SOMEHOW THIS SOLUTION ISN'T ADEQUATE ENOUGH, WHY IT DIDN'T COME THROUGH BEFORE IS BAFFLING.
AND IF, IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN WHAT IS THE SOLUTION NOW? WHAT MAGICALLY IS GOING TO APPEAR TO DELAY TO FORCE US TO DELAY TAKING A VOTE AND HAVING A FIRST READING IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH REQUIRE, UH, ABOUT APPROVED SURFACES, CAN'T WE ADDRESS THAT LATER? SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANNA BELABOR THE FACT, BUT WE, WE, WE HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS ON OUR PLATE.
THE STAFF HAS WORKED REALLY HARD AND THEY HAVE A LOT ON THEIR PLATES AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO COME TO CONCLUSIONS AFTER CONSIDERABLE DEBATE.
AND, UM, HERE WE ARE, UM, SEEMINGLY UNABLE TO MAKE A DECISION, UM, AND YET NOT OFFERING SOLUTIONS.
SO PLEASE, UM, LET'S JUST VOTE, TAKE A FIRST READING, PASS IT THROUGH AND, UM, ADDRESS THINGS AFTERWARDS IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE THINKS.
SO, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? YES, SIR.
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I JUST WANNA SAY THIS, MR. MAYOR.UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT PRIVY TO THE CONVERSATION OF THE P P C, I'M JUST OFFERING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
I DON'T PARK ON A PARKING SPACE WHEN I GO HOME EITHER.
DO MY PARENTS, ANYBODY ON MY FAMILY COMPOUND? YEAH, THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY A QUESTION I WROTE DOWN IS, IS ON THOSE COMPOUNDS, YOU KNOW, IT SHOWED SOME OF THE TRAILERS ON NAZARENE DRIVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT CONSTITUTES AS A PARKING SPOT WHEN THERE IS NO FORMAL PARKING, DOES IT HAVE TO BE DELINEATED? THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE LINES.
DOES IT HAVE TO BE SET FORTH? IT'S JUST A MEASUREMENT.
UM, AND TYPICALLY IT'S AN IMPROVED SURFACE.
UM, IT COULD BE, UH, WOOD CHIPS, CRUSHED GRAVEL, UM, A VARIETY OF SURFACE TYPES.
ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? UM, I THINK I ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION AND SO I MIGHT ADD TO THAT.
UM, IF, IF INSTEAD OF REFERRING IT DIRECTLY, WELL, LEMME BACK UP AGAIN.
SO IF IT IS REFERRED TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AND THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS FURTHER CHANGES TO THE AMENDMENT AND IT COMES BACK TO THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING, AND IF THOSE CHANGES ARE ADOPTED, THEN, THEN IT HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? YES.
BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PRE.
IS THERE A WAY TO REFER IT DIRECTLY BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION INSTEAD OF BACK TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE? I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MOVE IT ALONG.
UM, AND I GUESS THE OTHER OPTION IS TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO AMEND IT, UM, AMEND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO AMEND THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, AND THEN IT WOULD GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN COME BACK TO THE TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, WE WERE TO, UM, MOVE THE MOTION TODAY.
UM, WHEN'S THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MEET OCTOBER 12TH NEXT WEEK.
CAN WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA? HAVE A CONVERSATION NEXT WEEK? I BELIEVE SO, YES.
IT'S UP TO YOU AND THE MAYOR TO CONTROL THE AGENDA.
UM, MY, MY REQUEST IS IF THIS NEEDS ADDITIONAL WORK, THEN COUNCIL PROVIDES CLEAR DIRECTION ON THE ITEMS THAT THEY'D LIKE US TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EACH OF YOU ARE THINKING.
WELL, I, I, I, IN WITH RESPECT AND IN RESPECT, UH, OR WITH RESPECT TO MS. BECKER'S COMMENT, I, I THINK THAT WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS AT P P C, WHICH INDICATED MOVING ALONG IN THIS ISSUE.
IT'S ONLY IN MY MIND IN WORKING THROUGH EXPRESSING TO SOME DEGREE MY CONCERNS DURING THE P P C MEETING, BUT GETTING TO THIS POINT SAYING, HEY LOOK, IS THIS REALLY WHAT WE WANT? SO IF I WOULD REQUEST WITH THE MAYOR'S, UH, AGREEMENT THAT THIS BE PUT ON THE P P C AGREEMENT THAT WE APPROVE IT TODAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FIRST READING.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'M GONNA OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THIS JUST WITH RESPECT TO PARKING? YES, JUST, JUST PARKING WORKING.
I'M AN ARCHITECT WORKING ON A COUPLE OF HOMES ON HILL AND HEAD ISLAND.
UM, I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.
UM, I DO HAVE HISTORY WITH URBAN PLANNING.
I CAME FROM A LARGE FIRM IN ATLANTA WHERE I WAS THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
UM, I THINK WHEN YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING A REQUIRED PARKING ALLOWANCE, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER OPEN SPACE AND PERUS VERSUS INFER.
IT CANNOT BE A BLANKET ADD SIX SPACES WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE GREEN ASPECT, WITHOUT ALLOWING DRAINAGE, ALLOW, ALLOWING PLAN THINGS.
AND YOU'RE GONNA COMPLETELY COME UP WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CONCRETE THEIR WHOLE LOT.
IT'S UNFAIR AND IT'S GONNA LOOK TERRIBLE AND I THINK YOU NEED TO RECONSIDER THE WHOLE WAY WE'RE APPROACHING THE PARKING ISSUE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES, SIR.
UH, STORN, I THINK I WOULD SEGMENT, THAT LADY JUST SAID,
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THE ISSUE SEEMS TO BE AROUND THE PREVIOUS IMPERVIOUS.SO WE HAVE A PARKING ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO SOLVE, BUT THE PREVIOUS IMPERVIOUS CAN ACTUALLY FIND THAT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO VOTE ON IT TODAY AND APPROVE IT AND THEN SOLVE THE PREVIOUS IMPERVIOUS.
KEITH SLEDGE, AGAIN FROM BRADLEY CIRCLE.
UM, I LIKE WHAT THE LADY JUST SAID ABOUT, UH, THE GREEN ASPECT IN BRADLEY'S CIRCLE.
WE HAVE NO GRASS BETWEEN THESE HOUSES THAT OUR, UM, NEWEST DEVELOPER HAS PUT ALL OVER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S NOT IMPERVIOUS.
SO I WANT Y'ALL TO MAKE DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE HOUSE, BE IMPERVIOUS LATER, BUT LET'S MAKE THAT SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL JUST SIT DOWN AND SAY, THIS IS AN ITEM WE'RE GONNA DO ACROSS THE ISLAND ON A PLANTATION, NOT ON A PLANTATION.
IF YOU CHANGE OR MAKE OUTSIDE PARKING, LET'S MAKE IT IN, LET'S MAKE IT PERVIOUS.
WE'VE GOT A PENDING ORDINANCE SITUATION HERE.
THERE ARE THREE 9,000 SQUARE FOOT DWELLINGS THAT ARE APPLIED FOR, AND IF Y'ALL START THIS PROCESS OVER AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO POTENTIALLY LOSE OUR PENDING ORDINANCE ON ALL THIS STUFF.
AND SO INSTEAD OF NICE LITTLE FOUR BEDROOM HOUSES ON 5,400 SQUARE FOOT HOT LOTS, WE HAVE THREE 9,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSES WITH FIVE OR SIX PARKING SPACES IN THE FRONT OF OUR SUBDIVISION.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN KICK THE CAN DOWN AND WE CAN'T JUST TWIDDLE OUR THUMBS ABOUT EVERY LITTLE THING.
IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE IMPERVIOUS PARKING, BUT WE DON'T NOW.
Y'ALL CAN FIX THAT OVER THE NEXT MONTH.
YOU CAN SEND IT THROUGH ALL THE COMMITTEES, DO A SEPARATE THING AND JUST GET THAT DONE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.
UM, I JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT.
I AM JUST EXTREMELY CONCERNED HERE HOW WE ARE VOTING ON THINGS AND WE, I SAW IT LAST WEEK AT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE WHERE WE ARE NOT CLEAR ABOUT THE DEFINITIONS OF THINGS.
HOW DO WE SAY YES? LET'S JUST PASS IT AND WE'LL GET THE DETAILS LATER.
THEY MATTER TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO HAVE THE DETAILS IF BEFORE YOU CAN VOTE ON SOMETHING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OTHER HAND GOING UP? UH, CAN YOU COMMENT ON BOTH? NO, JUST PARKING.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL BRING HIM BACK TO THE DI.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM, FROM COUNCIL? MAYOR, MAYBE A BETTER QUESTION FOR OUR TOWN ATTORNEY IS WHAT ARE OUR PROCEDURAL OPTIONS AT THIS POINT THERE? EXCUSE ME.
IF THERE IS A PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING, HOW, AND YOUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING COULD BE A MOTION TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF THIS ORDINANCE TO A DEFINITE TIME.
WHICH COUNCIL MEETING? OR IF THAT'S TOO FAST, WHATEVER COUNCIL MEETING YOU THINK YOU CAN BACK TO.
THAT MOTION GETS DEBATED AND TAKES PRIORITY AND YOU COULD DO IT THAT WAY.
A MOTION TO TABLE ACTUALLY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OF AN ANIMAL.
IT'S HANDLED DIFFERENT WAYS BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
BUT IF YOUR INTENTION WOULD BE TO SEND IT TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AT A, AT A MEETING THAT, THAT Y'ALL DECIDE ON, THEN IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION TO A DEFINITE TIME.
IF I CAN REMIND, REMIND, UM, US OF SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID EARLIER TONIGHT IN THE CONVERSATION BY, UH, CHARLIE, UM, FROM THE CHAMBER.
HE TALKED ABOUT THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF HILTON HEAD, AND I'M GONNA PARAPHRASE IT 'CAUSE I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN WORD FOR WORD.
BUT THE SENTIMENT WAS, WAS STRIKING AND THE SENTIMENT WAS THAT, UM, TO PRESERVE THE ENVIRONMENT TODAY HAS BENEFITS.
UM, NOW AND LATER, ESSENTIALLY THE WAY WE HAVE PARKING NOW, WE DON'T REQUIRE ANY PARTICULAR TYPE OF SURFACE OR AM I WRONG? IT'S JUST A PARKING THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DESIGNATED AS PARKING, WHETHER IT'S PERVIOUS, IMPERVIOUS OR WHATEVER.
IN, IN SOME OF OUR CHARACTER OVERLAY DISTRICTS, THEY DO REQUIRE, UM, IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE FOR THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
I MEAN, IT MAY NOT BE THE DETAIL WE WANT IT TO BE, AND THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE, UM, AS YOU SAID, UM,
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PREVIOUSLY, UH, WE CAN DESIGNATE APPROVED SURFACES.SO IF THE CONCERN IS THAT WE DON'T WANT MORE PERVIOUS, IMPERVIOUS, UM, UH, AREAS ON A LOT, DAVID, THEN WE NEED TO GO BACK AND SAY ALL PARKING PERHAPS NEEDS TO BE IMPERVIOUS.
AND, AND, UH, UH, I STIRRED APART THE THE POT TONIGHT BY RAISING THIS OUS IMPERVIOUS ISSUE.
UM, I, I THINK WE OUGHT TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS FIRST READING, AND I THINK THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE SHOULD ALLOCATE SOME AMOUNT OF TIME IN ITS AGENDA TO DEAL WITH THIS IN MORE DETAIL TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY EASY SOLUTION OR WHETHER THIS IS JUST THE SUBJECT IS POSTPONED UNTIL A LATER DATE.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION IF EVERYONE'S READY.
I I WOULD LIKE TO, TO SAY SOMETHING.
UM, THIS, THIS GOES A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN PARKING IT, IT IS A QUESTION ABOUT PERUS VERSUS IMPERVIOUS ON EACH AND EVERY LOT, UM, WHICH DOESN'T EXIST CURRENTLY.
UM, I JUST DID A QUICK COUNT ON, ON MY HOUSE, YOU KNOW, SMALL HOUSE, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES I GOT, TWO IN THE GARAGE, FIVE IN THE DRIVEWAY, RIGHT? SO A QUICK CALCULATION THAT I'M RUNNING, I'M GOING, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
AND, AND I'VE GOT A SHORT DRIVEWAY, YOU KNOW, TO MR. AMES POINT.
YOU'VE GOT A LONG DRIVEWAY AND YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF PARKING WITH A NINE BY 18 AND CERTAIN AREAS WHEN YOU HAVE THE SHORT PARKING, THEN YOU'RE REALLY, YOU'RE CHALLENGED.
UM, THEN IT BECOMES A REAL PERVIOUS VERSUS IMPERVIOUS QUESTION.
AND IT'S WHAT, WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS HAD IN MIND ABOUT GREEN SPACE WHEN, WHEN THIS ISLAND WAS, WAS EARLY DEVELOPED.
UM, SO IT, IT IS NOT A SIMPLE ANSWER AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE DONE AND HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE, BUT, UM, I AGREE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED ON AND I THINK THE, THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE NEEDS TO, TO ADDRESS IT IN MORE DETAIL.
UM, SO THAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND OH, WHAT I, I NEED CLARITY BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL MOTION DID NOT INCLUDE IT.
GOING BACK TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AS, UM, MR. COLTRANE HAS SUGGESTED IF, IF, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN OUTSIDE OF AN, UH, OF A MOTION.
SO, SO THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SINCE I CONTROL THE AGENDA, THEN IT'LL BE ON THERE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
SECOND MOTION THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPT ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 16 AMENDING TITLE 16 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND ESTABLISH REGULATIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THIS ISN'T, UH, A PERFECT SCIENCE, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE ARE, WE, THE COUNCIL IS RESPONDING TO STRONG COMMUNITY SENTIMENT THAT OVERBUILDING IS HURTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN LARGE PART DUE TO SHORT TERM RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES.
AND SO I, I THINK THAT WE, WE OUGHT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AT 0.45 THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IT OUGHT TO INCLUDE FOREST BEACH, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE AT 0.55 AND THAT, UM, WE ANTICIPATE DOWN THE ROAD THAT THERE INTUITIVELY ARE DIFFERENCES IN THE, UH, F A R IN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
UH, THE MARSHES DISTRICT, IF IT'S GOING TO BE A LEGITIMATE, MORE CONSERVATION ORIENTED, UH, AREA, UH, MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT F A R THAN THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT.
SO I, I, I'M CONCEPTUALLY IN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED 0.45 TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
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AS WHEN I ATTENDED THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, I WASN'T CLEAR ON WHAT, WHAT IS DEFINED AS THE UNIT THAT WOULD COUNT TO THIS FLOOR AREA RATIO.SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A HOME THAT ABSOLUTELY COUNTS, BUT WHAT ABOUT YOUR SHED, YOUR TOOL SHED? DOES THAT COUNT AS WELL? YES, IT'S CURRENTLY DEFINED, UM, IT'S GOVERNED BY GROSS FLOOR AREA, AND THAT INCLUDES THE, THE STRUCTURE SIZE, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, UM, AND, UH, ANY AREAS THAT AREN'T, UH, OPEN OR UNOBSTRUCTED TO THE SKY WOULD COUNT TOWARDS GROWTH FLOOR AREA.
AND I'LL GO BACK TO, UM, THE, I GUESS FAMILY SUBDIVISION, FAMILY COMPOUND.
WHEN I ATTENDED THE GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE MEETING, THERE WAS A CONCERN AROUND THAT.
DO WE HAVE, UH, RESOLUTION AROUND THAT CONCERN? UM, WELL, THE, THE TOTAL SIZE OF THE HOMES ON A FAMILY COMPOUND, SO FAMILY COMPOUNDS ARE CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY PER THE REGULATIONS PER FAMILY COMPOUND.
UM, AND SO YOU WOULD ADD UP ALL OF THE, THE STRUCTURES AND DIVIDE THAT BY THE TOTAL LAW AREA, AND SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EXCEED, UH, A 0.45 FLOOR AREA RATIO FOR ALL OF THE STRUCTURES ON A, ON A PARCEL.
YEAH, I KNOW, BUT THERE, THERE WAS A PARTICULAR INSTANCE WHERE THERE WAS A MAP IN ACCORDANCE TO THIS NEW ORDINANCE AS SOMEONE WAS THINKING ABOUT DIVIDING THEIR PROPERTY TO WILL IT TO THEIR KIDS.
AND THE MATH DID NOT WORK WITH THE 0.45.
THAT'S THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE I'M ASKING, WAS THAT RESOLVED? UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE, SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE.
UM, WE DID HAVE, UM, SOME ANALYSIS OF SEVERAL FAMILY COMPOUND SITES WHERE WE DID ADD UP, UH, THE TOTAL STRUCTURE SIZE TO LOT SIZE, AND THEY DIDN'T EXCEED A 0.45.
CERTAINLY THAT WASN'T A FULL ANALYSIS OF ALL POSSIBLE SCENARIOS OR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF FAMILY COMPOUNDS THAT AREN'T FULLY DEVELOPED YET.
UM, I GUESS MY POINT IS, UM, TO THE REST OF COUNCIL IS AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GOT LOWER AREA RATIO CONCERNS.
AND AS COUNCILMAN AMES HAS ALLUDED TO, THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS TO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ASKED THE TOWN MANAGER TO WORK EXPEDITIOUSLY ON GETTING THOSE DISTRICT PLANS DONE, UM, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
UM, AND I'M, I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE CASE STUDY THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, WHICH ABSOLUTELY SHOW THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE CASE STUDIES TO SUPPORT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT FOLKS ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH ON THEIR PROPERTY WITH THIS 0.45.
AND I'M, I, I'M NOT READY TO SUPPORT IT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF THAT.
LET ME ASK, UH, COUNCILMAN BROWN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR SENSITIVITY TO THAT AND THE NEED TO PARSE IT OUT.
UM, WE WERE TO EXCLUDE FAMILY COMPOUNDS AND SUBDIVISIONS IN THIS MOTION FOR A TIME SPECIFIC PERIOD FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH AN ANALYSIS THAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH.
WOULD THAT SATISFY YOU? DEPENDS ON THE TIME.
I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE UNTIL THE, UM, THE DISTRICT PLANNING AND THE L M O REWRITE REQUEST, IT WOULD BE AN UNDEFINED TIME DEALING WITH DEALING WITH SUBDIVISIONS, DEALING WITH THE FAMILY COMPOUNDS.
SO WE, WE EXCLUDE THAT UNTIL THAT TIME THOSE PARCELS ARE AFFECTED BY THE DISTRICT PLANS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? MM-HMM.
AND THEN WHEN THOSE ARE DONE, THEN IF WE, UH, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED TO TWEAK THIS WITH REGARD TO THE VARIOUS DISTRICTS ANYWAY, THEN THAT'S A TIME TO AMEND IT AS OPPOSED TO ESTABLISHING A CERTAIN TIME WITHIN THE AMENDMENT.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD AMEND MY MOTION TO EXCLUDE FAMILY COMPOUNDS AND SUBDIVISIONS.
DID YOU DEAL WITH, HOW DID YOU DEAL WITH FOREST BEACH? DID, DID YOU INCLUDE THAT? I, I HAVEN'T MADE THE MOTION ON THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE AND I'M GLAD YOU POINTED IT OUT.
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A MOMENT.UM, WITH REGARD TO SHEDS, WHICH I HEAR CAME UP UNDER THE L M O A SHED DOESN'T NEED TO BE PERMITTED UNLESS IT'S GREATER THAN 120 SQUARE FEET.
IS THAT CORRECT? I'M SHAKING HIS HEAD YES, IT, IT IS.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE CONFIRMATION.
BUT IF, OR IF IT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S EXTENDING ELECTRICITY, I I GET THOSE PARTS OF IT THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF PERMIT, YOU'RE CORRECT.
IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT UNTIL IT'S AN EXEMPT ON THE BUILDING CODE BELOW LESS SIZE.
SO, SO KNOWING THAT SOMETHING, IS IT TRUE THAT SOMETHING LESS THAN 120 SQUARE FEET THAN AS A SHED UTILIZED AS A SHED, UM, WOULD NOT COUNT TOWARDS THE F A R? IT'S STILL GROSS FLOOR AREA, SO IT WOULD STILL COUNT.
SO WHAT IF, SO IF YOU HAD A TOOL SHED OR THAT YOU ADDED TO YOUR, YOU KNOW, LOT LATER AFTER YOU'VE BUILT YOUR HOUSE? YEAH.
BASED ON GROSS FLOOR AREA DEFINITION THAT WE HAVE, IF IT IS ENCLOSED AND NOT OPEN, UH, TO THE SKY, THEN IT IS PART OF GROSS FLOOR AREA AND IT'S PART OF THE F A R CALCULATION.
I THINK IT POINTS BEING MISSPOKE.
IT'S NOT REALLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.
UM, I HEAR THAT THERE'S ONE INCIDENT INSTANCE THAT, UM, COUNCILMAN BROWN IS CONCERNED ABOUT, AND I'M SURE THAT THERE'S A SOLUTION FOR THAT.
UM, I ALSO KNOW THAT FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS OR BETTER FROM SOUTH FOREST BEACH TO JONESVILLE AND EVERYWHERE IN BETWEEN, INCLUDING, UM, BEHIND THE GATES WHERE THIS ISN'T EVEN APPLICABLE, I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN RECEIVED PHONE CALLS, EMAILS, AND TEXTS, HAD MEETINGS FROM FOLKS WHO WANT A FLOOR AREA RATIO TO BE ESTABLISHED TO HELP THE OVERDEVELOPMENT IN THEIR, UM, COMMUNITIES.
EACH ONE OF US HAS SPOKEN VERY, UM, PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE OVERDEVELOPMENT ON THE ISLAND.
AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE ANY ONE OF US HAVE A PARTICULAR STANCE, BUT THAT IN FACT, WE HEAR YOU, WE HEAR YOU FROM SEA PINES BEHIND THE GATES, SOUTH FOREST BEACH, NORTH FOREST SPEECH, SINGLETON, PALMETTO, DUNES, JONESVILLE, AND ALL IN BETWEEN.
IT IS NOT ONE INSTANCE, THIS IS A CRY FOR SOMETHING TO BE DONE.
AND THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR YEARS IN WRITING THAT THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN BEING WORKED ON.
I AM SO THRILLED THAT, UM, THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT NOW HAS COME FORWARD AND THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO ANSWER THOSE PLEASE.
UM, THAT HAVE COME TO ALL OF US ON THIS DIOCESE.
UM, AND, UM, IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT THAT I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO TONIGHT MOVE THIS 0.45, UM, FLOOR AREA RATIO FORWARD.
AND IF THERE ARE SITUATIONS, UM, THAT COME UP THAT NEED ADDRESSING, I CERTAINLY THINK WITH REGARD TO FAMILY COMPOUNDS, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT, UM, THERE'S ROOM FOR THOSE FEW TO BE ADDRESSED IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS TAKEN CARE OF THERE.
PARDON? HANG ON ONE SECOND, MR. ALFORD.
MR. STANFORD, THE QUESTION OF FLOOR AREA RATIO TO ME IS THIS IS A WAY FOR THE DEAL WITH THE GROSS OVERDEVELOPMENT WITH THESE LITTLE TINY LOTS WITH HOUSES COVERING THE ENTIRE LOT.
I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT TO EXCLUDE FAMILY COMPOUNDS AND FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AT THIS TIME PRESENT.
UH, I WONDER IF THE MAKER AND THE SECOND WILL AGREE TO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UM, TO INCLUDE THE FOREST BEACH OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THE 0.45 FAR, THEREBY REDUCING IT FROM 0.5 TO 0.45.
I, I WOULD AGREE TO THAT AND I OMITTED IT.
HE REFERRED TO, I REFERRED TO IT, BUT IT WASN'T MY MOTION.
YOU CAN YOU RESTATE THE FULL MOTION THEN? CAN YOU RESTATE THE FULL MOTION FOR THE RECORD? YEP.
THE COUNSEL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 16 AMENDING TITLE 16 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH REGULATIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO INCLUDE THE FOREST SPEECH OVERLAY, UM, AND AND TO EXCLUDE AND TO EXCLUDE
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FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AND FAMILY COMPOUNDS.I SECONDED BEFORE AND I RE SECOND.
AND CAN, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE, UM, I I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT FOREST BEACH, UM, WAS INCLUDED SPECIFICALLY, BUT IT IS THE MOST RESTRICTIVE OF THE ORDINANCES, WHETHER IT'S NO, IT'S NOT MM-HMM.
UH, FOREST SPEECH HAS THE HIGHEST AT 0.55, THE OTHER TWO ARE ALREADY AT 0.45.
SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO THIS WOULD, UM, APPLY THE 0.45 TO FOREST BEACH AND REDUCE IT FROM FROM 0.55.
I MEAN, IT'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL? NO COMMENT.
UM, AGAIN, I'M SPEAKING FOR 33 PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE BRADLEY CIRCLE AREA.
UM, AND MR. BROWN'S, UM, CONCERN EARLIER WAS THAT DUE TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT, THAT CAME AT A PREVIOUS MEETING AND SAID THAT HIS HOUSE WAS THREE OR 4,000 SQUARE FEET AND EACH OF HIS CHILDREN COULD ONLY BUILD A 3 33 'CAUSE THAT WAS DEALING WITH THE CEILING, UH, OF WHATEVER IT WAS, 4500 5500 SQUARE FEET.
SO THAT DROPPING THAT ISSUE TOOK CARE OF THAT GENTLEMAN.
IF THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE THAT ISSUED A CONCERN, IT WAS, IT WAS DIFFERENT.
BUT YEAH, WE'VE GOTTA DO THIS BECAUSE THERE'S NO TREE COVER IN THESE ONE EIGHT ACRE LOTS WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING UP 9,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSES.
IT'S STRAIGHT UP, YOU'RE LUCKY TO HAVE FOUR PARKING SPACES AND WE'VE GOT THESE PEOPLE PARKING ALL IN OUR STREETS ALL AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
IF WE CAN STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT, BUT IT, IT'S A NIGHTMARE WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING WILLING TO TAKE A VOTE TONIGHT AND MOVE THIS FORWARD.
AND IF THE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE CAN COME UP WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS, THAT'S WONDERFUL TOO, BUT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THIS GOING.
OTHER COMMENTS, ANTHONY? I FALL ASLEEP.
DANIEL ANTHONY, I LIVE ON JONESVILLE.
UM, ALEX, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE FAMILY COMPOUNDS AND EVERYTHING.
UM, I DON'T PARTICULARLY AGREE WITH THE 0.4 OR FIVE, BUT DAVID, IF YOU COULD PLEASE TELL SOMEBODY TO MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT THAT THIS CAN BE ALTERED AT DISTRICTS ACCORDING TO THE COMMUNITIES AND NOT JUST OVER THE DISTRICT.
I WOULD GET ABOUT 300 RESIDENTS OUTTA MY TAIL
I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR MONTHS AND I'VE BEEN TOLD IT'LL HAPPEN, IT'LL HAPPEN, IT'LL HAPPEN, BUT NOBODY'S MADE PUBLIC COMMENT AND SO NOW I'M GETTING BLASTED.
SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID, BUT IF YOU CAN MAKE SURE SOMEBODY MAKES A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT THIS, THIS FAR.
BECAUSE ON JONESVILLE WE'RE AT A 0.28 OR LESS, IF THIS GOES INTO EFFECT AND WE'RE AT A 0.45, WE'VE ALMOST DOUBLED.
AND THEN WHAT'S THAT DO TO OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE ONE LANE IN AND ONE LANE OUT WE GET KILLED.
I OWN A LOT ON BRADLEY BEACH CIRCLE AREA SINCE 2014, WHICH I PLAN TO BUILD MY RETIREMENT HOME.
NOT ONE OF THESE LARGE ONES, BUT SOMETHING COMPARABLE TO MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSES.
MY COMMISSARY RELATED TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE L M L, SPECIFICALLY TO THE GROSS FLOOR AREA RATIO DEFINITION FOR A 0.45 IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPOSED FAR A 0.45 INCLUDES NON-HEATED SPACES LIKE GARAGES, UM, WHICH IS VERY RESTRICTED FOR SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, BUT PARTICULARLY, UM, MINE, UM, AS COMPARED TO THE HOUSE THAT'S ALREADY BUILT.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, MY LOT IS IN A FLOOD ZONE.
I CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING ON THE FIRST FLOOR, BUT IT'S GONNA BE USED.
MOST ALL THE HOUSES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD USED AS A GARAGE AREA, AND THAT AREA'S GONNA TAKE AWAY FROM MY 0.45 RESTRICTING MY LIVING SPACE.
UM, I'M, I'M OPPOSED TO FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON.
UH, THE CURRENT PROPERTY SETBACKS AND HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ADEQUATELY DETERMINE THE SIZE OF THE HOME THAT COULD BE BUILT.
AND BECAUSE THE FOOTPRINTS ALLOW US BASED ON THE LOT SIZE OF THE SUPPLIES FAIRLY TO UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OTHERWISE, MY HOUSE IS GONNA BE MUCH SMALLER THAN MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSES.
UM, THE, THE THREE I'VE MENTIONED, THE THREE EVER LAKE DISTRICTS HAVE DIFFERENT FAR SIZES, 0.55 AND 0.45, NOT ONE FAR FITS ALL.
UM, JUST KINDA LIKE THE, UH, MR. BROWN SAID IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE SAME.
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ONE OF THE REASONS STATES FOR, UM, THAT NEIGHBORS WHERE NEW, LARGER HOMES ARE BEING BUILT AND BETWEEN OLDER HOMES, THAT THIS NEGATIVELY, NEGATIVELY AFFECTS THE EXISTING HOME OWNERS' PROPERTY VALUES.THE OWNERS OF UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY OR EXISTING OLDER HOUSES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE EXISTING HOMES ARE LARGER IN SCALE, WILL BE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY BEING RESTRICTED TO BUILDING A SMALLER HOME THAN THEIR NEIGHBORS.
THIS WILL RESULT IN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN LOSSES FOR UNDEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOODS BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE ALONE.
UM, UM, IN SUMMARY, THE EXISTING L M O REGULATIONS ARE ADEQUATE TO CONTROL THE SIZE OF THE HOME AND STRUCTURE ON THE IMPACTED PROPERTIES.
UM, THIS, THIS, UM, REDUCTION HERE ONLY IMPACTS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
MY NEIGHBORHOOD'S PRETTY WELL DEVELOPED AND, UM, POTENTIALLY INCREASE BY DOING THIS, YOU'RE BASICALLY INCREASE, POTENTIALLY INCREASING THE HOME VALUE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BUILDING THESE HUGE HOUSES.
UM, I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME HOUSES I BOUGHT NINE YEARS AGO.
I FOUGHT WITH CAMERA TO, FOR THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.
I DON'T WANNA SEE HOUSES GO OUT THE ROOF.
AND THERE ARE SOME BUILDINGS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WHEN I FIRST BOUGHT IT WAS IN RESORT DEVELOPMENT, WE, IT GOT CHANGED FOR THE HEIGHT.
I WAS OKAY WITH THAT, BUT NOW I CAN'T BUILD, IF THIS GOES THROUGH, I CAN'T BUILD LIKE MY NEIGHBOR.
SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, I APPRECIATE IT.
HI, UH, MY NAME'S UH, BILL MCNEIL.
UH, I'M A PROPERTY OWNER IN THE B WORK SPEECH AREA, AND IT HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION.
THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN FIRE RATIOS FOR NON P D O DISTRICTS WOULD HAVE DRAMATIC EFFECTS ON THESE PROPERTIES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AS MANY DISTRICTS AFFECTED THE PROPOSED CHANGE FALL WITHIN FLOOD ZONES AND REQUIRE UNIQUE BUILDING REQUIRED REQUIREMENTS, SUCH AS BEING ELEVATED ABOVE 13 FEET BASE FLOOD ELEVATION.
THIS REQUIRES UNIQUE, INNOVATIVE DESIGN TO CONFORM WITH CURRENT TOWN A R B REQUIREMENTS AND A, UH, UH, ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING PLANNING.
WITHIN THE BERKS BEACH AREA, 80% OF THE LOTS ARE DEVELOPED, ALMOST ALL EXCEEDING THE PROPOSED FOR 0.45 REDUCTION.
THE BEACH PARK A R B REVIEWS ALL PLANS AND STRUCTURES AND HAS STRICT GUIDELINES ON BUILDING REQUIREMENTS.
THE MINIMUM BUILDING SIZE REQUIREMENT IN OUR A R B IS 2,500 SQUARE FEET UNDER THE NEW PROPOSAL FOR MY LOT, THAT'S 7,500 SQUARE FEET, I CAN ONLY BUILD A 2,250 FOOT HOUSE BECAUSE UNDER THE CURRENT DEFINITION, YOU'VE COMPLETELY EXCLUDED AREAS BENEATH STRUCTURES LIKE GARAGES, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT STORAGE.
THAT'S NOW GONNA BE COUNTED TOWARDS FAR IN YOUR CURRENT DEFINITION.
OTHER DISTRICTS THAT ARE ON THE OVERLAY HAVE THOSE EXEMPTIONS BUILT INTO THE FAR, AND MY THOUGHT IS 0.45 IS FINE.
I GET TO THAT GIVES ME 33 75 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDABLE HOUSE FOR MY OWN PERSONAL RESIDENCE.
I UNDERSTAND BERKS BEACH IS MAJORITY RENTALS.
TWO OTHER FAMILIES I KNOW WHO'VE MOVED IN THERE, IT'S THEIR PERSONAL RESIDENCE.
SO MY PROPOSAL, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS TO ADD BACK IN THE EXEMPTIONS FOR PARKING UNDERNEATH YOUR STRUCTURE AND STORAGE, JUST DUE TO THE UNIQUE BUILDING REQUIREMENTS WITHIN OUR AREA AS FAR AS PARKING GOES, OUR A R B MANDATES FOUR PARKING SPOTS.
YOU KNOW, I'LL STILL BE WITHIN THE AREA OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
UH, 11 SECONDS, UH, QUICKLY, THE CHANGE IN FAR IS GONNA LIMIT BUILDING AND IT ALSO IS GONNA LIMIT TAX REVENUE IN THE LONG RUN, SO THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, SIR.
YOU CAN GIVE IT TO HER WHEN YOU'RE DONE.
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HELLO, MY NAME'S CARL BRADEN AND I'M A CHAPLAIN RESIDENT.AND, UH, SO THIS L M O AMENDMENT WAS PREPARED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND SAID TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE MAJORITY OF EXISTING FAR REQUIREMENTS IN THE L M O FOR CHARACTER OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SO, BUT IT'S NOT CONSISTENT AT ALL.
YOU SEE THESE, UH, THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS USE A COMPLETELY DEFINITE, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF GROSS FLOOR AREA THAT EXCLUDES AREAS BENEATH THE STRUCTURE UTILIZED SOLELY FOR PARKING AND STORAGE.
THEY EXCLUDE, UH, THE FIRST 600 FEET OF COVERED PORCHES.
THEY EXCLUDE THE ATTIC SPACE AS DEFINED BY THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE.
BUT THIS FARM AMENDMENT PROPOSED ALONG WITH A PARKING MOVEMENT THAT INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF REQUIRED PARKING, INCLUDES GARAGE SPACE IN THE CALCULATION OF GROSS FLOOR AREA.
THE REASON WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT IS THAT IT GREATLY REDUCES THE EFFECTIVE FAR NUMBER AND UNFAIRLY LIMITS HOME SIZES ON MANY LOTS.
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT MATERIALS ON FAR FOCUSED ON AVERAGE LOT SIZES.
FOR BRADLEY CIRCLE, IT'S ONE, IT'S 0.18, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ZONED R M EIGHT EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH ALLOWS SEND A FAMILY HOME ON A LOT THAT IS 0.125.
THE MAJORITY OF UNDEVELOPED LOTS ON BRADLEY CIRCLE ARE 0.125.
LIKEWISE, LOTS ON BRADLEY BEACH ROAD, WHICH WAS SUBDIVIDED IN 1953 ARE 0.11.
NEVERTHELESS, THE MAJORITY OF HOMES ON THAT ROAD AVERAGE OVER 2000 HEATED SQUARE FEET.
IF PARKING GARAGES ARE INCLUDED AND NOT EXCLUDED, LIKE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE ISLAND, WHICH IMPOSES FAR ON BRADLEY BEACH ROAD, IT WOULD RESULT IN TWO 720 SQUARE FOOT LEVELS OVER PARKING FOR A MAXIMUM OF 1440 ON BRADLEY CIRCLE, WHICH RESULT IN 2 881 SQUARE FOOT LEVELS OVER PARKING.
SO 1,762 SQUARE FOOT HOME AT THE SAME TIME AS THEY'RE BUILDING A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT, HEATED SQUARE FEET HOME RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
BOTH THESE EXAMPLES WOULD RESULT IN A SINGLE FLOOR LEVEL THAT IS BETWEEN A TINY HOUSE OF 500 SQUARE FEET AND A SINGLE WIDE TRAILER OF 10 87.
20 TO EIGHT 80 IS VERY SMALL WHEN MOST HOMES AVERAGE SINGLE FLOOR LEVEL IS 1200 SQUARE FOOT ON THE LOW END.
AND MANY HOMES ON BRADLEY CIRCLE HAVE SINGLE FLOOR LEVELS.
THAT AVERAGE WELL OVER 2000 BAR IS NOT INTENDED TO FORCE HOMES TO BE PETITE OR BELOW AVERAGE.
THIS IS NO, THERE'S NO REASON TO UNFAIRLY BURDEN FOLKS THIS WAY OR DEVALUE THEIR PROPERTY IN THE PROCESS.
TO IMPOSE THIS RULE ONTO NATIVE ISLAND COMMUNITIES WITHOUT NOTIFICATION IS ESPECIALLY INAPPROPRIATE IN MY OPINION.
ALAMO CHANGES SUCH AS THIS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED WITH THE DISTRICT PLANS, IT SHOULD BE TAILORED TO THE INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE ZONING DENSITY.
PLEASE SEND THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE.
OTHER COMMENTS? HELLO, MY NAME IS LISA KOTTER.
MY FAMILY AND I HAVE LIVED IN BLUFFTON FOR 15 YEARS.
WE BOUGHT A LOT IN 2014 ON BRADLEY CIRCLE AT TWO ABALONE LANE.
MS. BECKER HAPPENS TO BE MY NEIGHBOR.
WHEN WE BOUGHT THE LOT, WE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT OUR PLANS WERE FOR IT.
WE'VE HAD MANY OFFERS FROM PEOPLE TO BUY THE LOT, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS KEPT A HOLD OF IT.
AS OUR KIDS ARE GETTING OLDER AND WE ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT COLLEGES, WE'VE DECIDED THIS WOULD BE THE PERFECT PLACE FOR OUR KIDS TO COME BACK TO.
IN OCTOBER, 2022, WE HAD A SURVEY DONE.
WHEN WE RECEIVED THE SURVEY, WE ASKED THE SURVEY COMPANY TO REACH BACK OUT TO THE TOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL SETBACKS WERE CORRECT, AND WE WERE, WE WERE ASSURED THAT THEY WERE CORRECT.
WE PROCEEDED WITH THE DESIGN AFTER COMPLETION OF THE DESIGN, WE WERE THEN INFORMED THAT THE SETBACKS WERE NOT CORRECT.
MISTAKES HAPPEN, BUT NOW WE HAVE TO PAY OUR ARCHITECT FOR A SECOND DESIGN.
WE MOVED ON TO DESIGN NUMBER TWO, LATE SPRING 2023.
AGAIN, OUR DESIGN IS JUST ABOUT COMPLETE.
WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE FAR, OUR CURRENT DESIGN IS A 3,400 SQUARE FOOT HEATED HOME.
WE, UM, HEARD AT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE ABOUT WHAT MAKES A HOUSE A HOME, AND THAT IS WHAT WE WANT ON HILLHEAD HOMES.
THIS HOME HAS 50% PERVIOUS COVERAGE.
IT HAS ROOM TO THROW A BALL, AS WAS DISCUSSED LAST AT THE LAST MEETING.
WE DO HAVE A FIRE PIT PLANNED.
WE ALSO HAVE ROOM FOR OUR TWO DOGS TURNING AROUND.
IF THIS PROPOSED BLANKET RATIO OF 0.45 PASSES, WE WOULD NOT HAVE A HOME AS WAS WAS DEFINED IN THE LAST MEETING, WE WOULD BE LEFT WITH APPROXIMATELY 1200 SQUARE FEET OF HEATED SPACE.
THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT ENOUGH TO CREATE A HOME AND FOR OUR CHILDREN AND FAMILY TO COME BACK TO A BLANKET PART DOES NOT, DOES NOT, UM, DOES GET RID OF THE MANSIONS, BUT IT ALSO MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR A FAMILY OF FIVE TO BUILD A HOME IN R M EIGHT.
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UM, I'M ALSO, AS I ADDRESSED IT EARLIER, I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW WE ARE PASSING THINGS AND THEN COMING BACK LATER TO DEFINE THOSE THINGS.UM, AT THE PLANNING MEETING, IT WAS NEVER THE, THE FAR WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE FAR WAS WAS NOT DEFINED.
IT WAS ACTUALLY ADDRESSED UP UNTIL THE POINT THAT THEY WERE, THAT THEY WERE VOTING.
I GUESS NOW THEY'VE DECIDED THAT IT INCLUDES THE GARAGE AND THAT IT INCLUDES A SEPARATE STRUCTURE.
HOWEVER, NO ONE HAS ADDRESSED WHETHER IT INCLUDES THE SCREENED IN PORCH BECAUSE THAT WAS THE QUESTION LAST WEEK TOO.
I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE ARE MAKING THESE, UM, DECISIONS AND THEN GOING BACK LATER AND DEFINING THEM.
THESE, THESE LITTLE DETAILS MATTER TO THE, TO THE PEOPLE IN ON HILTON HEAD.
UM, AND IT WAS, IT'S BEEN TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW THE PLANNING, UM, AT THE PLANNING MEETING AND TODAY ABOUT ADJUSTING THE RATIOS AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL.
WHY AREN'T WE LOOKING AT EACH INDIVIDUAL ZONE SEPARATELY AND MAKING DECISIONS NOW BASED ON THE ZONES INSTEAD OF, OF HAVING TO READDRESS THIS AT A LATER TIME.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RUSH IS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE.
THAT THE, THE COMMITTEE HAS, UM, DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS, BUT CLEARLY THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I, AGAIN, I URGE YOU TO TAKE A STEP BACK, LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL ZONE AND ADDRESS THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HELLO, I'M DENISE PITA, UM, THE ARCHITECT OF MS. LISA KOTTER.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON DESIGN FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.
AND LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M VERY BIG ADVOCATE OF GREEN SPACE.
THAT'S WHY WE TRIED VERY HARD TO KEEP PERCENTAGE OF A LOT OPEN.
IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE THAT WITH THE DESIGN THAT SHE WANTED AND TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE HER WHOLE FAMILY.
UM, IF YOU INCLUDE THAT BOTTOM LEVEL BELOW THE BASELINE ELEVATION, YOU HAVE A HOUSE THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN BUILD.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THE NUMBERS SHOWN IN THIS CHART THAT YOU PRESENTED EARLIER FOR THE FAR ARE REALISTIC.
I DON'T THINK THEY INCLUDE THAT BOTTOM LEVEL.
AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE NUMBERS IN THIS CHART, THEY HAVE TO BE CHECKED AND CHECKED AGAIN.
AND I WENT THROUGH SIX DIFFERENT AREAS IN R M EIGHT.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE AREAS HAD A 0.78 AND HIGHER.
SO I'M GONNA QUOTE FROM THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, WHICH IS SET UP AS A MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT TO CREATE DIVERSE AND CULTURAL RISK DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS, PROVIDE THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING CHOICE AND DIVERSITY WITH VARYING HOUSING, HOUSING, DENSITIES, TYPES AND DESIGNS.
YOU HAVE INCLUDED WHAT WAS 10, WHICH NOW APPEARS TO BE 11 SEPARATE ZONING DISTRICTS UNDER ONE FAR.
I THINK YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND RESTUDY EACH HIS ZONES INDIVIDUALLY.
I THINK THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO STUDY WHEN SOMETHING'S CALLED A MODERATE DENSITY ZONE, THAT IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE BUILT AT MODERATE DENSITY.
YOU'RE GONNA END UP WITH TEENY MANY HOUSES NEXT TO THESE BIG MANSIONS.
AND EVERY STREET THAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED HAS ONE OR TWO LITTLE LOTS LEFT THAT PEOPLE CAN'T BUILD ON.
AND THAT WILL JUST BE A WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE DICE.
WHAT'S THE MOTION BEFORE US? PARDON? WHAT'S THE MOTION BEFORE US? THE MOTION BEFORE US IS TO APPROVE THE 0.45, UM, INCLUDING THE FOREST BEACH OVERLAY AND EXCLUDING, UH, FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AND COMPOUNDS.
UM, MAYOR, CAN I, I, I THINK I NEED OH, DID ALEX, OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO HAVE FULL DISCLOSURE.
SO AS EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT THE DEVALUING OF LOTS, I'M SUBJECTING MYSELF TO THAT WILLINGLY, KNOWINGLY AS A BENEFIT TO THE OVERALL COMMUNITY BECAUSE INDEED, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR FOUR YEARS SPANNING THIS ENTIRE ISLAND.
UM, ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS AND TO LET, TO COME TO READ SOMETHING I'VE READ BEFORE, AND WE SHOULD READ AND REMIND OURSELVES OF ALL THE TIME, LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
THE PURPOSE IS TO PREVENT THE OVERCROWDING OF LAND AND AVOID UNDUE CONCENTRATION OF
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POPULATION BY CREATING ZONING DISTANCE CONSISTENT WITH CHARACTER AND DESIRED DEVELOPMENT FORM OF EACH AREA OF THE TOWN AND EACH AREA'S SUITABILITY FOR PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.AND, AND, AND I THINK THAT WE GOT SO FAR AWAY FROM THAT.
WE GOT SO FAR AWAY FROM THAT THAT, UM, NOW TRYING TO COME BACK TO SOMETHING THAT REPRESENTS THE VALUES OF, UM, HILTON HEAD, OUR PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT, UM, OUR ECOLOGY, OUR RESIDENTS, OUR DEVELOPMENT IN APPROPRIATE MANNER THAT IT MIGHT BE PAINFUL.
I'VE SUBJECTED MY OWN FAMILY TO THAT PAIN.
WE WILL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THESE EXACT SAME RULES.
AND, UM, AND, AND I DO IT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE ISLAND AS A WHOLE, EACH AND EVERY COMMUNITY.
UM, YEAH, I GOT A COUPLE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, BUT ON WE HAVE A, UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PARKING WOULD TRAVEL INTO THE PUDS.
DOES THE BAR DO THE SCENE? NO, SIR.
UM, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE GET TO DISTRICT PLANNING.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL, GOAL OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE CORRECT PERCENTAGE MAKES SENSE FOR THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS WITHIN THE DISTRICTS? DO WE HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT? IS THAT PART OF THE PROCESS? I MEAN, IS THAT, DO WE HAVE SOME CERTAINTY? I'M JUST AFRAID OF SETTING A PRECEDENT NOW AND THEN SAYING WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT EITHER UP OR DOWN LATER.
THAT'S AN EXCELLENT ANALYSIS THAT LED TO A RECOMMENDATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
NOW, COUNT TOWN COUNCIL WAS BASED UPON THE THREE OVERLAYS WE HAD IN THE CURRENT CODE, THE ANALYSIS OF EXISTING FLOOR AIR RATIO IN A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITIES.
UM, AND SHARING THAT WITH YOU, IT VARIES WITHIN, WITHIN EACH ONE OF THESE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.
SO YOU CAN EXPECT AS A NEW DISTRICT PLANNING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DIFFERING FLOOR AREA RATIOS.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT WITHIN EACH, WITHIN, WITHIN EACH DISTRICT, UM, AND UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITIES WITHIN EACH ONE.
UM, THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND, AND THAT WITHIN THAT FULL CONTEXT, BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY FLURRY RATIOS THAT MAKE, MAKE SENSE.
UM, I THINK WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO KEEPING TRUE TO DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT HAVE, THAT ARE HISTORIC AND, AND, AND OVER TIME.
UM, BUT I THINK WE NEED THE CONTEXT TO MAKE THOSE TYPES OF DECISIONS.
UM, I, I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION WITH THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, FAMILY COMPOUND.
UM, BUT I, BUT I DO HAVE GRAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT PLANNING EFFORT.
UM, AND I, AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GOT ISSUES RIGHT IN FRONT OF US THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH.
THIS SEEMS TO BE SOMEWHAT OF A STOP GAP, UM, BUT NOT UNDERSTANDING SOME CERTAINTIES AS TO HOW WE ARE NOT DEVALUING PROPERTIES EITHER UP AND THAT UP OR DOWN.
THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A STRETCH FOR ME.
SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE.
NANCY, UH, YOU DID SOME RESEARCH ON ALTERNATE DEFINITIONS OF, UH, GROSS FLOOR AREA.
YOU LOOKED AT THE, UH, OVERLAY, UH, PRECEDENTS.
DOES ANY OF THE, THOSE MAKE SENSE FOR US TO CONSIDER? UH, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD, UM, SOLVE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED ON WHAT IS OR ISN'T INCLUDED IN GROSS FLOOR AREA.
UM, THE EXISTING THREE OVERLAYS HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS FOR WHAT'S INCLUDED WITH, WITH THEIR GROSS FLOOR AREA.
UM, TWO OF THE THREE, UM, INCLUDE EXCEPTIONS FOR AREAS BENEATH THE STRUCTURE, UTILIZED SOLELY FOR PARKING AND STORAGE, PARKING AND STORAGE, AND EXCLUDE THE FIRST 600 SQUARE FEET OF COVERED PORCHES AND ATTIC SPACE DEFINED BY THE LATEST ADOPTED OF THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE.
UM, THE HOLIDAY HOMES NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT ALLOW AN EXCEPTION FOR THE FIRST 600 SQUARE FEET OF COVERED PORCHES, BUT, UM, THAT IS HOW, UM, THE EXISTING, UH, OVERLAY DISTRICTS BOTH DEFINE FLOOR AREA AND REDEFINE OR EXCLUDE, UH, FROM THE GROSS FLOOR AREA DEFINITION THAT WE HAVE IN THE REST OF THE CODE.
SO THE DEFINITION, UM, THAT DOES INCLUDE THE EXCLUSION FOR COVERED PORCHES.
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THEY, UH, DEFINE GROSS FLOOR AREA THAT INCLUDES COVERED PORCHES IN ALL ENCLOSED SPACE WITH A CEILING HEIGHT OF SEVEN FEET OR GREATER, EXCEPT AS FOLLOWS, AREAS BENEATH THE STRUCTURE UTILIZED SOLELY FOR PARKING AND STORAGE, THE FIRST 600 SQUARE FEET OF COVERED PORCHES, AND THEN THE ATTIC SPACE.UM, I HESITATE, UH, SUGGESTING THAT WE ADOPT SOMETHING THAT THE REST OF COUNCIL HASN'T EVEN SEEN.
BUT I THINK THAT'S A DIRECTION THAT BEGINS TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE, UH, OBJECTIONS THAT WE'VE HEARD.
AND IT RECOGNIZES THAT, UM, TO SOME DEGREE OF HOUSE BEACHES, BEACH HOUSES, OR HOUSES THAT ARE IN THE FLOOD ZONE, UH, HAVE AN ALTERNATE USE BUT AREN'T PENALIZED FOR IT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR ME, BUT I THINK IT'S IN A DIRECTION.
THE QUESTION BEFORE US IS, ARE WE GONNA TRY TO ADOPT THAT OR ACCEPT WHAT, WHAT IS ON THE TABLE TODAY? I I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE MAKING THE MOTION TO INSERT THAT WITHOUT COUNSEL'S ABILITY TO, I, I WOULD SAY THAT IF, IF THAT WAS TRIED TO BE INSERTED, UM, IT WOULD CONSTITUTE A MAJOR CHANGE BECAUSE OF A DEFINITION SIDE AND WOULD THEREFORE BE FORCED BACK.
MAYOR, I THINK IT HAS TO GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION ANYWAY, BECAUSE FORGIVE ME, I, AS I UNDER, AS I RECALL
AND SO WITH, WITH THAT BEING EXCLUDED, IT HAS TO GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION ANYWAY.
SO WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST, AND I WAS GONNA ALSO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT GROSS FLOOR AREA BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENCE IN THE DEFINITION THAT EXISTS UNDER THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE IN A SEPARATE PROVISION FROM THE OVERLAY DISTRICT'S GROSS FLOOR AREA.
UM, SO WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST IS WE GO AHEAD AND ADOPT IT ON FIRST READING.
IT'S GOTTA GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ANYWAY, UH, WITH, UM, INSTRUCTIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ASSIST IN CLARIFYING THE DEFINITION OF GROSS FLOOR AREA BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO US FOR SECOND READING.
WOULD THAT WORK? MAY, IF I CAN ASK A QUESTION ON THAT POINT THAT PATSY BROUGHT UP.
SHE, SHE, SHE ASKED A QUESTION AND STILL WAITING AN ANSWER CORRECT THAT MR. TOWN ATTORNEY, IF WE GO AND ADOPT IT ON FIRST READING, IT'S GOTTA GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ANYWAY, BECAUSE THERE WAS A CHANGE, UM, IN THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, UM, THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AND SO IF WE ADOPT IT ON THE FIRST READING, IT GOES BACK TO A PLANNING COMMISSION WITH INSTRUCTION THAT THEY, UM, HELP TO CLARIFY THE GROSS FLOOR AREA DEFINITION FOR US.
IN ADDITION TO THE ITEM YOU MENTIONED, UH, THERE'S ALSO AN AMENDMENT MADE TO THE, TO THE TEXT OF THE CORRECT ORDINANCE BY MR. RAMES TODAY.
SO IT DOES HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CERTAINLY COUNSEL CAN SEND IT BACK WITH A MESSAGE THAT YOU WANT THIS TO BE LOOKED AT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BY IF, IF THERE IS ANY CONSENSUS AS TO WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE THAT DEFINITION TO WIND UP, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO BOTH STAFF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY COUNCIL TO KNOW WHERE YOU'D LIKE THAT TO GO SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY CREATE LANGUAGE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK AT AND SEND BACK TO YOU AS OPPOSED TO RIGHT.
I, I THINK THAT GUESSING
UM, IF, IF THE MAYOR AGREED, THEN I WOULD SAY STAFF, IF STAFF COULD PRE PRESENT SOMETHING TO PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE NEXT WEEK, THAT WE AT LEAST GOT THE FOUR MEMBERS OF PUBLIC PLANNING AND PERHAPS AN ALTERNATE TO WEIGH IN TO CONFIRM SOME SOLID DIRECTION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IF, IF I MAY, MAY JUST INTERJECT.
UM, THIS DID COME BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE WE REMOVED THE 4,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, MAXIMUM, UM, AND PARDON? IT WAS A PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE WHERE THAT WAS REMOVED.
PUBLIC PLANNING COM COMMITTEE BUT NOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AT THAT TIME, UNLESS THINGS SOME HAVE CHANGED, THAT THAT WAS THE ONLY REQUIREMENT NEEDED THAT IT WOULD GO TO PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AND THEN WOULD COME BACK HERE.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT GOING BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE OF THE 4,000 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM.
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WELL, WELL, ANYTIME YOU NEED A STEADY BALL HERE, NO.ANYTIME THE TEXT OF AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS CHANGED BY THE COUNCIL, IT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THAT, THAT THEY, THEY CAN'T CHANGE IT.
THEY CAN'T, I MEAN, THEY, THEY GET TO REVIEW IT AND TELL YOU WHAT THEY THINK.
I MEAN, THE TEXT OF THE STATUTE'S PRETTY CLEAR.
NO, I, I I HEAR YOU AND UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION IS THEN WHY WE HAD IT FOR A FIRST READING TONIGHT.
SEAN COLE, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER.
SO WE HAVE THE MOTION, WE HAVE AMENDMENTS TO APPLY IT TO FOR SPEECH OVERLAY.
UH, WE HAVE, UM, AN EXCLUSION TO THE FAMILY COMPOUND IN SUBDIVISIONS.
I THINK THE DEFINITION THAT MISSY PROVIDED DOES ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAPPENED HERE.
UM, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO THAT NEW DEFINITION, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE CLEAR COMING OUT OF THIS MEETING OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AT PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BE ABLE TO ADDRESS COMING BACK TO COUNCIL.
UM, TO, TO CLOSE THIS OUT, WE DO HAVE TO GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A READING OF COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR DEVIATIONS ARE TO BRING BACK TO THEM.
SO I THINK IF WE ARE CLEAR ON THE DEFINITION PIECE AS CLEAR AS YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER AMENDMENTS, THEN THAT WILL HELP US, UM, EXECUTE THE WORK AND DISCUSSION WITH BOTH OF THOSE BODIES BEFORE BRINGING THIS FINAL BACK TO YOU.
UM, I, I'M GONNA AGREE WITH, WITH WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT HAVING ALL THE INFORMATION UPFRONT.
I SENT 'EM BACK TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE BEFORE BECAUSE THERE WASN'T CLEAR DEFINITIONS AND CLEAR INFORMATION THAT WAS COMING FORWARD.
UM, I, I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND I STILL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND I AGREE THAT WHEN WE START AFFECTING SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY VALUES, WE HAVE GOT TO TAKE A, A LOOK AT IT VERY CAREFULLY AND MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY.
UM, WHEN WE TRY TO EXPEDITE THINGS THROUGH, IT TAKES LONGER.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH OUR L M O DEFINITION OF FLUOR AREA RATIO THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED.
UM, I DO NOT WANT THAT TO BE A PART OF IT TONIGHT BECAUSE THAT WOULD CHANGE ALL THE DATA AND WOULD REQUIRE A WHOLE NEW PRESENTATION.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT, GOING BACK TO P P C FOR CLARIFICATION AND, AND WORKING THAT OUT IS THE WAY TO GO.
UM, CAN WE TAKE A FIRST READING VOTE WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS, UM, AND THEN DO THAT WORK? SO YEAH, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO CONS, UH, ESTABLISH REGULATIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING USE FLOOR AREA RATIO, COMMA TO
TO, UM, INCLUDE FOREST SPEECH OVERLAY, EXCLUDE FAMILY COMPOUNDS AND SUBDIVISIONS.
UM, THAT IS THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED BROWN OPPOSES.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR, CAN, CAN I ASK, WHEN WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEET THIS MONTH? UH, THE, WHEN, WHAT MEETS PLANNING COMMISSION.
OH, THAT'S BEFORE THE, THE 11TH.
THE, THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR OCTOBER IS, UM, OCTOBER 18TH, THE DAY AFTER YOUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, AFTER THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING AND BEFORE THE NEXT TOWN COUNCIL MEETING CASE? UH, NO, IT WOULD BE AFTER PUBLIC PLANNING.
ALRIGHT, UM, NEXT UP WE HAVE THE FIRST READING PROPOSED ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 16 AMENDING TITLE 16 TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND LAND MANAGEMENT, OR, WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE JUST DID.
TURN PAGE OVER MR. PRESENTATION.
ATION OF THEY'RE ALL WORKING OUT WHEN WE GET UP THERE.
[8.b. Consideration of an Ordinance for the Town of Hilton Head, for the Fiscal Year Ending June 30, 2024; to Provide for the Expenditures of Certain Funds; to Allocate the Sources of Revenue for the Said Funds; and to Provide for Severability and an Effective Date - First Reading - John Troyer, Director of Finance]
NEXT WE HAVE JOHN TROY.WE'RE PRESENTING, REPRESENTING CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE FOR THE TOWN OF HILTON HU ISLAND FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2024, TO PROVIDE FOR THE EXPENDITURES OF CERTAIN FUNDS TO ALLOCATE THE SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THE SET FUNDS AND TO PROVIDE SEVERAL ABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
UM, YEAH, TONIGHT WE HAVE, UH, A DISCUSSION ABOUT A PROPOSED
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BUDGETARY AMENDMENT.UM, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET PASSED IN JUNE, UM, ADOPTED THE BUDGET.
UH, THERE'S BEEN ONE CHANGE SINCE THEN AND THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS ROLLED BACK THE MILLAGE RATE SINCE THEN TO OFFSET THE EFFECTS OF REAPPRAISAL, UM, FROM 23 TO 21 4.
UM, BUT THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGES TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS IN THE, UM, BUDGET SINCE THEN.
TOWN COUNCIL HAS MADE FOR LAND PURCHASES AND WE NEED TO, UM, AMEND THE BUDGET TO, UM, PROVIDE FOR THOSE PURCHASES.
AND SO THAT'S A NORMAL TOWN PROCESS.
TOWN COUNCIL MAKES THE DECISIONS, AND THEN WE MAKE THE, UM, BUDGETARY AMENDMENT, UM, FOLLOWING THAT.
SO THERE'S, UM, JUST A PROCESS.
UM, WE ALSO HAD A FEW CHANGES IN THE C I P, UM, WHEN WE DID THE, UH, ORIGINAL BUDGET PROJECTIONS, THERE WAS, UM, ESTIMATES MADE ON HOW FAR, UM, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT C I P PROJECTS WOULD BE TOWARD JUNE 30TH.
NOW THAT WE HAVE FINAL NUMBERS THERE, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED.
WE PUT THOSE TOGETHER AND MADE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THAT AND MADE THAT WORK WITHIN THE TOTAL OF THE C I P.
SO THE C I P HAS SOME AMENDMENTS WITHIN IT, BUT THE, UM, TOTAL REMAINS THE SAME.
AND SO, UM, WE CONSIDER THIS MORE OF A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
UM, WE ALSO HAD SOME SLIGHT CHANGES IN THE GENERAL FUND, SIMILAR THINGS.
WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF ADJUSTMENT IN, UH, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES AND A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE IN ORGANIZATIONAL, BUT WE'RE REALLY USING JUST THE BUDGET THAT, UM, COUNCIL HAS PROVIDED.
AND SO WE WOULD, UM, INCLUDE THESE, UM, AMENDMENTS TO THE GENERAL FUND THAT BRING THE SAME TOTAL MM-HMM.
AND, UH, THAT WOULD, UM, MAKE OUR NEW BUDGET FROM 1 29 9 TO 1 41 6.
AND SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THE FIRST READING ON, UH, TONIGHT AND, UM, CONSIDER A SECOND READING ON 17TH AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
I MOVE, UH, COUNSEL ADOPTIVE ORDINANCE FOR THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING IN JUNE 30TH, 2024 TO PROVIDE FOR THE EXPENDITURES OF CERTAIN FUNDS TO ALLOCATE THE SOURCES OF REVENUE FOR THE SAID FUNDS AND TO PROVIDE FOR THE SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, MAYOR.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA PACKAGE, UM, AND, AND SO I'M GOING BY THOSE PAGE NUMBERS.
IT'S THE ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT, UM, PAGE THREE.
UM, AND I SEE THAT INTERDEPARTMENTAL TRANSFERS.
UM, AND AS I UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT, UM, IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE, THAT THOSE CHANGES IN THE GENERAL FUND ARE BASED UPON ALIGNING WITH DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND SO THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THE PROJECTS THAT ARE PART OF THE CAPITAL PROJECT PLAN THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS ALREADY SEEN AND APPROVED.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
AND I, I'M LOOKING AT PAGE FOUR, UM, WHICH HAS SOME CHANGES IN THE NUMBERS.
FOR INSTANCE, THE BEACH PROGRAM HAS A REDUCTION OF 873,717, AND THE PATHWAY PROGRAM HAS A REDUCTION OF 1003 75 5, OR SORRY, 3 59, AND THE PARK PROGRAM HAS A REDUCTION, BUT THE FACILITY AND EQUIPMENT PROGRAM HAS A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE OF OVER 3 MILLION.
UM, AND SO SET ASIDE THE LAND ACQUISITION PORTION, UH, THAT RAISES MY QUESTION ABOUT WHAT'S CHANGED, NOT DEPARTMENTAL REALIGNMENT, BUT WHAT'S CHANGED IN THOSE FUND EXPENDITURES TO THE PATHWAY PROGRAM TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT AND IN THE PARK PROGRAM TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT AND THEN FACILITY AND EQUIPMENT PROGRAM TO SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT.
WE WENT THROUGH AND WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE, UM, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TEAM AND REALLY TRIED TO, UM, LINE OUT THE TIMETABLE OF WHAT IT WAS GONNA TAKE FOR EACH PROJECT.
AND IT'S MORE OF A TIMING, UM, ISSUE THAN IT'S, IT'S NOT AT ALL A SCOPE CHANGE, IT'S MORE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND SO, UM, THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, UM, I I THINK WERE MORE REALISTIC ON, UM, HOW MUCH COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BE BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 30TH.
SO DO, DOES THAT THEN CHANGE THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED? BECAUSE YOU'VE MOVED SOME THINGS AROUND AS FAR AS WHAT'S BEING DONE IN, IN WHICH YEAR? I THINK THERE'S, UM, SOME SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS.
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A LITTLE BIT ON THE TIMING ISSUE, BUT IT'S, UM, UH, I THINK THERE WAS AN EMPHASIS ON PHASING.AND SO THE PROJECTS THAT WERE, UM, CONTEMPLATED AND AND PLANNED ARE, ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UM, ASSIGNING WHICH FISCAL YEAR THAT THAT IS GOING TO GO.
AND SO I, I THINK, UM, ALL OF THESE PROJECTS WERE, UM, TAKING A REALLY CLOSE LOOK ON THE PHASING PIECE OF IT TO, UM, FIT WITHIN THIS BUDGET HERE.
YEAH, I'M SORRY, THAT DOESN'T HELP ME OUT.
UM,
AND, AND, AND, AND TO HAVE THIS FIRST BEFORE US TODAY WITHOUT DETAIL ABOUT THOSE CHANGES, I, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH BUDGET ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS ONE.
UM, AND THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS ON THAT SAME PAGE, PAGE FOUR, THE SOURCE OF THE FUNDS FOR LAND ACQUISITION.
UM, AND I COMPARE THAT TO PAGE FIVE.
SO I SEE THAT, UM, UH, FOR INSTANCE, BRYANT ROAD 3.4 MILLION, AND THEN I'LL LOOK OVER TO PAGE FIVE TO SEE WHERE MONEY MIGHT HAVE COME FROM AND EASIER ONE FOR ME.
SO IF I TAKE BRYANT ROAD AND MATTHEW'S DRIVE SITE REAL ESTATE TRANSFER FEES, THAT TOTALS 3 MILLION SIM HUNDRED 50,000.
AND THEN IF I LOOK AT, UM, THE INCREASE IN, IN REVENUES ON PAGE FIVE, I SEE REAL ESTATE TRANSFER FEE OF 3,750,000.
BUT THEN WHEN I LOOK AT, UM, POPE AVENUE, OKAY, 4 MILLION AND THEN I LOOK AT PAGE FIVE, STATE ACCOMMODATIONS TAX, AN INCREASE OF 4 MILLION.
THEN I LOOK AT SHELTER COVE LANE AND I'M GOING LIKE, OKAY, NOW WHERE DOES THE REST OF THE MONEY COME FROM? AND MAYBE IT'S A MIXTURE OF MORE OF THOSE, BUT TO ME, THE DIRECT LINES DON'T WORK.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT, THERE'S, UM, PROJECTS AS THE, THE MIX OF THE PROJECTS CHANGE SLIGHTLY, THEN THE REVENUES THAT ACCOMPANY THAT CHANGE SLIGHTLY.
AND SO, UM, FOR THE BRYANT ROAD, YES, THAT'S ALL REAL ESTATE TRANSFER FEE.
THE MATTHEWS DRIVE, ALL REAL ESTATE TRANSFER FEE.
THE SHELTER COVE WAS A MIXTURE OF STATE AID TAX, BEACH FEE AND HOSPITALITY.
AND, UH, POPE AVENUE WAS ALSO STATE AID TAX, BEACH FEE AND HOSPITALITY.
AND SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS A MIXTURE THERE, BUT THEN THERE WAS ALSO IN THE CARRY FORWARD OF THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS, UM, ASSIGNED REVENUE THAT WENT WITH THOSE PROJECTS.
SO THAT CHANGE IN MIX ON THE SPENDING, UM, CONNECTED TO THE CHANGE IN MIX ON THE REVENUES.
YEAH, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY HOW MUCH CAME FROM EACH OF THOSE FUNDS, UH, PARTICULARLY FOR SHELTER COVE LANE AND POPE AVENUE, BECAUSE THE BRYANT ROAD AND MATTHEWS DRIVE TOTALS 3,000,750 MM-HMM.
BUT THE OTHER THREE, I'M SORRY, THE OTHER TWO DON'T MAKE DIRECT SENSE TO ME.
WELL, THE OTHER TWO, UH, I MEAN I HAVE THE NUMBERS, UH, BUT THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT NUMBERS FOR EACH SHELTER.
COVE IS 2 MILLION FROM STATE AID TAX MILLION 7 0 3 FOR BEACH FEE, AND, UH, 234,000 FOR THE HOSPITALITY.
UH, THE POPE AVENUE, THE STATE AID TAX IS 2 MILLION BEACH FEE, 1,000,700 65 5 AND HOSPITALITY 2 34 5.
SO YEAH, MAYBE, UH, THERE'S A MIXTURE THERE.
WE COULD GET A, A MEMO IN BETWEEN READINGS WITH SORTING THAT OUT.
NO, WE CAN CERTAINLY SPELL THAT OUT AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL, UM, WE'LL ADD SOME MORE DETAIL WITH THE, UM, PROJECTS BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
YEAH, THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE GREAT.
I'M OKAY GETTING THAT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
ANY OTHER COMMENT FROM THE COUNCIL? PUBLIC COMMENT? MS. MAYOR, ONE THING, UM, MR. TROY, ONE OTHER THING TO, UM, INCLUDE IN THE, UH, MEMO IN THE NEXT READING.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE COUNSEL, UM, HAVING QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
UM, DOES THE, UH, I GUESS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, 2020 THREE'S ACTUALS IN 2020 THREE'S, UH, PROJECTIONS ACCOUNT IN THIS AMENDMENT AS WELL? YES.
WELL, COULD YOU SPELL THAT OUT? YES, THANK YOU.
AND, AND THAT'S A PIECE OF IT, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S, UH, PRIMARILY IT IS WE MAKE PROJECTIONS EARLY, EARLY IN THE BUDGET CYCLE, AND THEN, UH, THE
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ACTUALS COME JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT WE PLANNED.UM, I'M, I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING HOW WE ARE DOING IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING PROJECTS AND DOES THAT PACE IMPACT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TO ANY DEGREE? SIGNIFICANT DEGREE? NO.
NO, I, I, IT'S, UM, WE KNOW WHEN WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UM, MEETINGS ABOUT, IS IT, IT'S ALRIGHT, THE C I P IS IS FULL SPEED AHEAD.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S OUR FULL EXPECTATION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL TONER? MS. TONER BEHIND YOU? BEHIND YOU? SHE'S NO.
MELINDA TUNNER, PALMETTO HALL.
UM, I HAD THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT COUNCILMAN BRYSON HAD, UM, AND REALLY WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS YOU HAVE THOSE PLUSES AND MINUSES IN THE CAPITAL PLAN, UH, ALTHOUGH THERE'S NO IMPACT IN THE 2024 PLAN, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE 2025? SO YOU'VE GOT THINGS GOING UP 3.3 MILLION IN TOTAL THINGS GOING DOWN 3.3 MILLION IN TOTAL, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT $3.3 MILLION WAS NOT GONNA BE MOVED INTO 2025 INCREASING YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS ALREADY THE LARGEST YEAR OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.
SO I, I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN I ALSO HAD A COMMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THE, HOW THE BUSINESS OF THE TOWN HAS DONE, THE COMMITTEES PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE AND THEY ARE USUALLY THE FIRST AREA THAT GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW, DISCUSS, AND MOVE FORWARD ITEMS TO TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, AND QUESTIONS LIKE YOU'RE HAVING NOW WOULD'VE COME UP IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
SO I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THIS TOPIC WAS IN NEW BUSINESS AS A FIRST READING.
AND MY, I WAS SURPRISED BECAUSE IT WASN'T COVERED AT THE FINANCE MEETING.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
UH, I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO LISTEN OR COMPLY.
THIS IS JUST FOR VIDEO RECORD AND I BELIEVE THAT IT, IT'LL BE USED FOR EXTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS AND FORENSIC AUDITS I THINK ARE IMMINENT.
I THINK Y'ALL ARE GONNA BE FACED WITH THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME BECAUSE THE DISHONESTY CAN'T CONTINUE.
HOW DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT EXPENDITURES OF FUNDS WITHOUT AN INDEPENDENT FORENSIC OUTSIDE AUDIT? I CONTEND ALL HIRED AUDITS AND BUDGETS OF THIS TOWN ARE FRAUDULENT AND ONLY SHOW THE NUMBERS.
THE C P A TROYER OR ORLANDO AND OTHER EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING THE LAWYERS, WANT YOU TO SEE.
I REPEAT NONE OF YOU ARE CPAS THAT EVEN IF YOU WERE, YOU DON'T HAVE FORENSIC AUDIT KNOWLEDGE.
YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE FORENSIC AUDIT KNOWLEDGE AS WELL.
I'M GONNA HIGHLY SUGGEST SOMETHING TO Y'ALL AND I HOPE YOU COMPLY TO THIS AND, AND LISTEN TO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.
I SUGGEST YOU HIRE AN OUTSIDE AUDIT FIRM SINCE NONE OF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
NEVER SEEN ANY OF ANY OF THE NUMBERS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE CHURNING OUT.
AND I SUGGEST YOU HIRE A FIRM, AND I KNOW SEVERAL FIRMS LIKE THIS IN SOUTH CAROLINA THAT ARE MADE UP OF CPAS THAT ARE FORMER F B I AGENTS.
AND THAT'S THE KIND OF AUDIT FIRM YOU NEED.
YOU NEED SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS HOW TO FOLLOW THE MONEY, LOOK FOR THE MONEY, AND IS TRAINED ON TOWN AND COUNTY CORRUPTION, SMALL TOWN CORRUPTION.
UH, SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE ISSUED FUNDS FOR PRIVATE ILLEGAL USE.
AND I'M GONNA REPEAT CINE, 600,000 NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS.
THAT'S A LAWSUIT THAT THAT, THAT THE SUPREME COURT RULED ON.
AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME WITH THE GRIPS WITH THAT, AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME WITH GRIPS THAT THE CHAMBER IN TENS OF MILLIONS.
YOU'VE GOT TO COME WITH GRIPS WITH THAT.
AND MANY NONPROFITS, YOU CANNOT USE PUBLIC MONEY FOR PRIVATE PURPOSES.
AND, AND IF YOU DO, YOU GOTTA SEE WHAT, WHAT THE HECK THEY DID WITH IT AND HOW MUCH, HOW MANY CRIMES AND ILLEGAL USES BEEN COMMITTED BY IT.
SO MR. PERRY, AGAIN, IF I'M WRONG, THEN I'LL NEVER COME BACK TO ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING AS LONG AS I LIVE AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE.
NO, YOU'RE OUTTA ORDER AND I'M GONNA TELL NO, NO, YOU'RE OUTTA ORDER.
SIR, I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING MR. HOMELAND.
I, I, I, IT'S NOT, I, I WILL NOT ONLY NEVER ATTEND ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I WILL BE HAPPY TO WRITE YOU A MILLION DOLLAR CHECK REWARD.
I'LL HAVE THAT CHECK SENT TO YOU.
YOU'RE COMPLETELY OUTTA ORDER.
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OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE DIOCESE.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED, THAT IS A SIX TO ONE IN FAVOR OF.
[8.c. Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Business License Ordinance of the Town of Hilton Head Island to Update the Class Schedule as Required by Act 176 of 2020, South Carolina Business License Tax Standardization Act § 6-1-400 -420 – First Reading– John Troyer, Director of Finance]
WE HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE ADMITTING THE BUSINESS LICENSE ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND TO UPDATED CLASS SCHEDULE AS REQUIRED BY ACT 1 76 OF 2020 SOUTH CAROLINA BUSINESS LICENSE TAX STANDARDIZATION ACT SIX DASH ONE DASH 400 DASH FOUR 20.THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, AND THE COMMITTEE VOTED TO FORWARD THIS REQUEST ONTO TOWN COUNCIL.
I'M APRIL AKENS, THE REVENUE SERVICES MANAGER HERE AT THE TOWN.
I OVERSEE THE ADMINISTRATION OF OUR BUSINESS LICENSE TAXES, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE UPCOMING CHANGES TO OUR TAX LAW.
JUST TO PROVIDE YOU A BRIEF, UH, BACKGROUND AND TO, UM, REFRESH OUR MEMORIES.
SOUTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED AG 1 76 IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020, AND THAT WAS TO STANDARDIZE HOW WE ADMINISTER OUR BUSINESS LICENSE TAXES.
AS A RESULT, M A A C UM, DEVELOPED AND CREATED THE BUSINESS LICENSE MODEL ORDINANCE TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE REQUIREMENTS AFTERWARDS.
TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTED THE BUSINESS LICENSE MODEL ORDINANCE IN SEPTEMBER OF 20 20, 20 21, AND NOW ADMINISTERS THE BUSINESS LICENSE TAXES.
ACCORDING TO OUR STATE LAW, I PROVIDED A FEW HIGHLIGHTS THAT OCCURRED DURING 2021.
WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THE STATE LAW THAT ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED WITH THE CURRENT CHANGES.
ACT 1 76 REQUIRES THE TOWN TO ADOPT THROUGH THE STANDARD, UH, TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE.
SORRY, I'VE BEEN SITTING THERE TOO LONG.
WE DID THAT THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF OUR MODEL ORDINANCE, THE TOWN RECLASSIFIED ALL OF THOSE BUSINESSES.
UM, AT THAT TIME FOR THE 2022 BUSINESS LICENSE TAX YEAR, AND AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAD 33 BUSINESS LICENSE CLASS SCHEDULES, UH, THAT WENT INTO 18 NEW CLASS SCHEDULES.
DURING THAT TIME AFTERWARDS, WE COMPLETED A DATA ANALYSIS ON THE RATE CHANGES, UM, EXCUSE ME.
AND THE STUDY REVEALED A SHORT P OF ABOUT $340,000.
AS A RESULT, UH, TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED BUSINESS LICENSE TAX RATES, WE INCREASED 7.2% TO ACHIEVE A REVENUE NEUTRAL RESULT, UM, THAT WAS REQUIRED BY LAW.
WE'VE GOT, UH, SOME WORK TO DO FOR HOUSEKEEPING PURPOSES.
OUR ACT 1 76 REQUIRES THAT WE ADOPT THE LATEST STANDARDIZED BUSINESS LICENSE CLASS SCHEDULE THAT WAS REC RECOMMENDED BY M A C AND IT'S ALSO ADOPTED BY THE DIRECTOR OF REVENUE AND FISCAL AFFAIRS OFFICE.
THAT DOES HAPPEN EVERY ODD YEAR.
UH, M A C DETERMINES AND REVISES THE STANDARDIZED BUSINESS LICENSE CLASS SCHEDULE EVERY EVENING YEAR.
THEY USE THE LATEST AVAILABLE NATIONWIDE I R S STATISTICS.
THEIR I R S STATISTICS ARE USED FOR THE CALCULATION OF THE PROFITABILITY OF THE BUSINESS CLASS CLASSIFIED WITHIN THE NEXT CODE SYSTEM.
AND THEY ALSO, UM, IMPLEMENT THE NEWEST NATE CODES IN 2023 MORE HOUSEKEEPING, UM, AND BY C USES A THREE YEAR AVERAGE OF I R S PROFITABILITY STATISTICS TO DETERMINE THE CLASS SCHEDULE CHANGES.
AND I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE THREE YEAR AVERAGE THAT WAS USED FOR THIS YEAR'S CHANGES WERE FROM 20 17, 20 18, AND 2019.
SO THAT IS BEFORE OUR PANDEMIC.
I DID REACH OUT TO M A C TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO FOR THE FUTURE FOR THE AVERAGES, UH, SINCE WE WENT THROUGH A PANDEMIC AND THAT OBVIOUSLY, UH, IMPACTED THE REVENUE.
I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM THEM YET, BUT WHEN I DO, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU.
M A C RECOMMENDS REBALANCING OUR BUSINESS LICENSE TAX REVENUE, BUT IT'S NOT MANDATED.
AND OF COURSE, THE GOAL OF THIS PROCESS, UH, IS TO STABILIZE AND LIMIT LARGE FLUCTUATIONS BETWEEN OUR BUSINESS CLASSES AND ALSO OUR TAX REVENUE.
WE COMPLETED A BUSINESS LICENSE RATE STUDY BASED ON THE NEW CHANGES THAT ARE COMING.
UH, M A C PUBLISHED THE LATEST STANDARDIZED BUSINESS LICENSE CLASS SCHEDULE IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN IN, UH, THE MONTH OF JULY, WE CREATE, WE UPDATED THE DATA ANALYSIS ON APPROXIMATELY 14,000 BUSINESS LICENSE ACCOUNTS, UH, TO DETERMINE THE IMPACT
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THAT THAT WOULD HAVE ON OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.AND ALSO, UM, HERE AT THE TOWN.
TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, THERE ARE 19 INDUSTRY SECTORS IN THIS CLASS.
SCHEDULE NINE INDUSTRIES OF THOSE 19 WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE CLASS SCHEDULE CHANGES.
IN THE 2024 BUSINESS LICENSE TAX YEAR SEVEN INDUSTRIES WILL TAKE A TAX RATE REDUCTION AND TWO INDUSTRIES WILL HAVE A TAX RATE INCREASE.
OVERALL THAT IMPACTS 15.8% OF OUR BUSINESSES WITH THE CLASS SCHEDULE CHANGES.
AND OUR TOTAL REVENUE LOSS WAS DEFINITELY MORE FAVORABLE THIS TIME WITH A LOSS OF $32,833 AND 80 CENTS OR LESS THAN 1% OF OUR TOTAL BUSINESS LICENSE TAX REVENUE.
I INCLUDED THE DETAILED SLIDE OF OUR RATE STUDY ANALYSIS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S IMPACTING OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
THE GREEN, UM, AREAS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED, THOSE ARE THE, UH, INDUSTRIES THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE, THE TOTAL NUMBER, THE FIRST COLUMN IS OUR ACTUAL BUSINESS LICENSE REVENUE THAT WAS COLLECTED IN FISCAL YEAR 23 WITH THOSE 14,000, UH, BUSINESSES.
SO THAT EQUALED $6.314 MILLION.
AND THEN WHEN YOU RECLASSIFY INTO THE NEW CLASSES, THEN YOU WILL SEE THE CHANGE AT THE BOTTOM NEAR THE TOTAL.
THAT DROPS A LITTLE BIT TO THE 6.281 MILLION, AND THAT IS WHERE ALMOST THE $33,000 SHORT SHORTFALL OCCURS.
UM, NOT TO POINT ANYONE OUT ON OUR SLIDE HERE, BUT I DID GO, I DID WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU DRILL IT DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF THE INDUSTRY AND HOW THAT IMPACTS, UM, THE, THE BUSINESS ITSELF.
SO IF YOU LOOKED AT, UH, DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM 7, 2, 2 INDUSTRY IS OUR S RESTAURANTS, THEY MOVE FROM A CLASS ONE OVER TO A CLASS TWO.
SO THAT WILL INCREASE THEIR TAX BUSINESS, LICENSE TAX REVENUE AS ON AN AVERAGE OF 24%.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE, THE NEXT SECTOR, 48 THROUGH 49, THAT'S THE TRANSPORTATION AND WAREHOUSING.
SO THEY MOVE FROM A CLASS TWO BACK OVER TO A CLASS ONE, AND THEIR, UH, BUSINESS LICENSE TAX REVENUE IS IMPACTED, UH, BY 22%.
UM, I SAY THAT BECAUSE I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE 2021 ANALYSIS, WHICH WAS, UM, VERY DIFFERENT THAN THIS.
THE FIRST, WE HAD 33 BUSINESS LICENSE CLASSES THAT WERE BEING MOVED INTO THIS NEW FORMAT, AND IT RANGED FROM, UM, I THINK THE, ACTUALLY THE RESTAURANTS WENT FROM, UM, DECREASED BY 56%.
SO THEY GOT A 56%, 56% PERCENT DIS DE DECREASE.
SORRY, I AM HAVING TROUBLE TALKING TODAY.
A 56% DECREASE, UM, TWO YEARS AGO, AND NOW THEY'RE HAVING A 24% INCREASE.
AND THAT DOES SPEAK TO THE WAY THE INDUSTRY FLUCTUATES.
UM, AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF US COLLECT OR, UM, ADOPTING THIS PARTICULAR CLASS SCHEDULE, SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES, UH, FLUCTUATED OVER 77% ON THE LAST CHANGE.
SO WE'RE HOPING THIS NEW PROCESS WILL ELIMINATE THOSE LARGE FLUCTUATIONS.
SO EVEN THOUGH YOU SEE SOME LARGER NUMBERS OVERALL, IT IS REALLY, UM, VERY NORMAL FOR, FOR THE PROCESS.
ERIC, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THOSE CHARTS? SO, UM, FOR THE FOOD SERVICES AND DRINKING PLACES, THAT'S THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF INCREASE.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT HOW THAT AFFECTS INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES ACROSS THE BOARD? LIKE IS AN AVERAGE OF, OF 1% INCREASE OR, UH, I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT IMPACT AND, AND THEN ALSO WHAT THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS.
THE EFFECTIVE DATE WILL BE JANUARY 1ST, 2024.
SO THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE FOOD SERVICES AND DRINKING, THAT WOULD BE OUR CATERERS AND OUR RESTAURANTS.
THERE'S SEVERAL HUNDRED AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CALCULATED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE CHANGE THE CLASS RATE BASED ON THE REVENUE THEY'VE REPORTED TO US.
SO THAT IS AN AVERAGE ACROSS THE BOARD.
THE MORE MONEY THAT WAS REPORTED, THE HIGHER THE TAX INCREASE.
I'M SORRY, WHICH IS THE AVERAGE, THE COLUMN AT THE FAR ON THE FAR RIGHT ON MY RIGHT, 24%.
SO IF I HAVE A RESTAURANT, THEN MY BUSINESS LICENSE IS LIKELY TO INCREASE BY 24%.
THE BUSINESS LICENSE TAX? YES.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE BUSINESS LICENSE TAX? I GUESS IT VARIES WITH THE AMOUNT OF INCOME, BUT IT, IT DOES, UM, AVERAGE OVERALL, 14,000 IS A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS.
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I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE SMALL BUSINESSES.
AND THEN WHILE WE'RE AT IT, UH, THE MANUFACTURING, THAT'S THE SECOND BIGGEST INCREASE, ALTHOUGH CERTAINLY NOT AS MUCH AS FOOD SERVICES AND DRINKING PLACES, BUT WHAT KIND OF MANUFACTURING DO WE HAVE HERE THAT'S IMPACTED? UH, WE DO NOT HAVE VERY MUCH MANUFACTURING, SO THE AMOUNT OF BUSINESSES IN THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS LESS THAN 1% OF OUR TOTAL BUSINESSES.
SO IT, IT IS A, A SMALL AMOUNT, BUT WE HAVE A FEW THAT ARE SUBSTANTIALLY IMPACTED.
SO STAFF IS, UH, RECOMMENDING ADOPTING THE STANDARDIZED BUSINESS LICENSE CA, UM, EXCUSE ME, CLASS SCHEDULE WITH NO ADJUSTMENT TO THE TOWN'S CURRENT BUSINESS LICENSE, UM, TAX RATES.
WE FELT THAT THE, UM, LOSS SHORTFALL OF $33,000, LESS THAN 1% WAS, UH, REASONABLE AND WE DIDN'T SEE ANY NEED TO GO OUT AND INCREASE OUR TAXES.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, I WENT IN FRONT OF THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER THIS ORDINANCE AND HOPING THAT TONIGHT YOU WILL HAVE THE FIRST READING, UM, WITH ADDITIONAL STUFF FOR US TO DO BEHIND THE SCENES.
SO STAFF WILL BE WORKING IN NOVEMBER TO PREPARE THE BUSINESS LICENSE SOFTWARE AND UPDATE THE CLASS SCHEDULES, UH, TO PREPARE FOR THE 2024 BUSINESS LICENSE RENEWALS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, IN JANUARY, UM, THE NEW CLASS SCHEDULE WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.
I MOVE COUNSEL, ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE BUSINESS LICENSE ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON NET ISLAND TO UPDATE THE CLASS SCHEDULE AS REQUIRED BY ACT 1 76 OF 2020 SOUTH CAROLINA BUSINESS LICENSE TAX STANDARDIZATION ACT SIX DASH ONE DASH FOUR UNDER DASH FOUR 21ST READING SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? UH, ONE QUICK OTHER COMMENT.
Y'ALL HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB IN NOTIFYING BUSINESSES ABOUT WHEN THINGS ARE GONNA HAPPEN AND WHAT THE, UM, WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
AND I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT AGAIN.
BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY ONE? YES, DEFINITELY.
UM, THEY WILL DEFINITELY, THEY GET A LETTER AND UH, WE CAN OBVIOUSLY, UH, REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? ALL THAT COMMENT VERY QUICK.
HOME-BASED BUSINESSES, UM, ESPECIALLY RUNNING INTERNET TECHNOLOGY BUSINESSES ON THE ISLAND, THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM RUNNING MILLION DOLLAR PLUS OPERATIONS.
I CAN, I CAN PROMISE YOU, THERE'LL BE NO WAY TO ENFORCE THAT.
AND WHY WOULD THEY, THEY'LL NEVER GET CAUGHT.
THEY'RE RUNNING, THEY'RE RUNNING OUT OF THEIR HOME.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG LOSS FOR YOU.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S WHAT'S SO GREAT ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, INTERNET, IT'S DISRUPTED THE SYSTEM AND I'M, TAKE IT ANY WAY YOU WANT.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE S.
ANY OTHER, UH, UM, COMMENTS? SEEING NONE WILL CALL THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND AND THAT AS UNANIMOUS.
[9. Executive Session]
INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING THE FOLLOWING MATTERS.I RECEIVED A LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE TOWN ATTORNEY ON MATTERS COVERED UNDER THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE PURSUANT TO THE SOUTH COUNTY FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, SECTION 30 DASH FOUR DASH 78 2 RELATED TO APPLICATION OF PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE.
YOUR MOTION IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SO YOU FIVE BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.