Sep 20, 2023 County Transportation Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER – Roll Call]

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. GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU FOR GETTING TRANSPORTED AND FAMILIAR SEPTEMBER 20TH 2020 THROUGH THE WE HAVE ROLL PLEASE JEFFREY WE'RE CALLING LINES TO WELCOME THE BOARD HERE WE'LL BE BACK HERE HERE HERE THAT I SUSPECT SHE'LL BE HERE REALLY HERE IS A NAME ENTERS WAS NOT EXCUSED IT WE HAVE THANK YOU THAT MEANS WE HAVE A QUORUM IT'S CUSTOMARY TO GO AROUND THE ROOM AND INTRODUCE EVERYBODY.

STEPHANIE, YOU'RE UP OF FIRST TIME IN YOUR WHOLE IN YOUR CLOSET AND DEEPER AND GREATER THAN YOU AND ANIMALS PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER WELCOME. OKAY WE ALL RISE WITH WE HAVE A PLEASURE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED. IT'S CUSTOMARY TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND PUBLIC COMMENT TO AGENDA ITEMS ONLY AND I SEE NOBODY THINK IS GOING TO TALK

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES May July 19th, 2023]

[5.A. SCDOT DISTRICT PROJECT UPDATE SCDOT Resident Construction Engineer]

I BELIEVE YOU HAVE HER SLIDES INTO THE PODIUM WHEN YOU WHAT I'M TELLING IS FOR A PLACE TO SIT RIGHT. THERE'S ONE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

YOU SEE THE YOU DIDN'T GO WHEN YOU SIGNED THIS YOU WILL BE ABSENT ON YOUR POWERPOINT SLIDES. YOU DIDN'T AND I NEED YOU TO DESIGN THE ON.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE'LL DO. WHY DON'T YOU IF YOU HAVE HER PHONE NUMBER.

OKAY GIVE HER GIVE ME YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL CONTACT HER OR.

YOU CAN CONTACT HER. AND WHAT I WOULD ASK IS TO HAVE SLIDES THAT SHE WAS GOING TO SEND TO YOU AND THEN PROVIDE THE SLIDES TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE ON YOUR BACK UNLESS YOU IT IS IN THE LAST TWO PAGES. YES, THAT'S GOOD.

WE'LL TAKE A STAB AT THIS ACTIVE PROJECT ON 278 THERE WAS A BUNCH OF INTERSECTIONS AND WE WERE DOING I THINK EDISTO IS IS I FINISHED UP ROAD RECONSTRUCTION EIGHT PACK I DON'T KNOW WHAT STREET THAT IS FRONT OF US 278 THEY WERE THEY A PORTION ON THE ISLAND I THINK THAT THEY WERE FINISHING THE FINAL INSPECTION CONTRARY ON THE NEXT ITEM IS AGAIN TO 78 THAT CONTRACT ISN'T TO BE DONE UNTIL 2023 SO IN FACT THE CONTRACTOR 56 604 TEN LICENSE THE CONTRACTOR AND TIME ADJUST FOR AN APPROVED ASPHALT I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT'S ABOUT OH TMR ARBY'S WHAT'S GOING ON IT'S EASIER TO SEE HIM OR BE IS IS THIS STATE HAS

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I THINK THAT'S IT AND LAST SLIDE IS CLOSED. GOT PROJECTS COMPLETED THIS YEAR SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND IT AROUND. THANK YOU.

[5.B. DIRT ROAD PROJECT UPDATE (#53 In-Design) Rusty Bratz., Transportation Construction Manager]

WHAT WAS WHAT ARE THE THREE ROADS RAINBOW ROAD IS IN THE CONSTRUCTION TALKING HIM NORTH OF YOU KNOW A ONE OF THOSE ANOTHER ONE IT'S IN NEXT YEAR'S PAINTING IT'S IN THE NEXT TWO THINGS OVER THIS TIME I WILL MENTION IS ALWAYS A MENTION OF SO THAT'S THE WAY LIKE THAT IS I'M SORRY BUT IT'S ALSO ON THE LIST FOR NEXT YEAR CONVENTION REMEMBER THAT RIGHT

[5.C. CTC RESURFACING PROJECT (Year 6 Bid Report & Status) Rusty Bratz., Transportation Construction Manager]

I LEAVE. WE ARE WE ARE FINISHED I BELIEVE WE'RE MEETING THE CONTRACTOR THE FINAL WALK OF QUESTIONS NEXT. A YEAR SIX PRESERVATION THE

[5.D. CTC PAVEMENT PRESERVATION PROJECT (REJUVENATOR UPDATE) Rusty Bratz., Transportation Construction Manager]

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PHOTOS OF THE IN BLUE CHIP SEAL PHOTOS. RIGHT SIR.

GREAT. WILL THEN HAVE A LONGER LIFESPAN AND OF THAT SO SUPPLEMENTARY TREATMENT WASN'T APPLIED CORRECT WILL HAVE A LONGER LIFESPAN AND THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL OF IT. YEAH I'M PARTICULARLY IS ON ROADS WITH SUCH A LOW INTAKE THESE ARE STATE ROADS NOT OUR ROADS YEAH THESE ARE ROADS BY DIRECT IS 64 AND 65 OF THE STATE DEAL TEAMS DIRECTIVES THESE ARE ROADS WHICH WOULD NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN TOUCHED AND WHY WE'RE TOUCHING THEM AND THEY WERE MICHAEL SAID VERY CLEAR THESE ROADS WOULD NEVER MEET CRITERIA FOR WORK BEING DONE ON YEAH AND RIGHT TOWARDS SECRETARY HALL IN APRIL SHE WAS ANXIOUS ALSO HEAR THE RESULTS AS MY CALL TO PASS IT ON FROM TRAINING SO TO SPEAK BECAUSE IT WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED. IT GOT ALL SORTS OF COMPLIMENTS FROM THEM BECAUSE IT WOULD BE INTERESTING OVER TIME TO SEE IF IT LIVES UP TO ITS EXTRA ABILITY AND THAT WAS THE IDEA.

YEAH THREE NOW IT LOOKS NICE AND FEELS NICE AND IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IT REALLY DOES SAVE MONEY OVER TIME. YES I DO REMEMBER THAT IN WASHINGTON WASHINGTON THROUGH THE WASHINGTON IT'S IN IT'S IN THE NEXT OFFICE IN 55. OKAY OKAY I WILL LIKE THESE GUYS BACK TEN YEARS AGO. OKAY YOU COULD BE A LITTLE LATE BUT I WAS CURIOUS WHAT YOUR COMMENTS WERE ON WE DID A BIGGER STATE IN A COUPLE OF THE OTHER NETWORKS OR ROADS IN YOUR DISTRICT WITH WAS ONE OF FIVE SCRUBS TOO AND IT WAS ALL SORTS OF ACCOLADES.

SO I THINK THE LAST TIME SAID WAS TO FIX A COUPLE OF POTHOLES WAS SOMETHING THAT WE GOT ALL SORTS OF ACCOLADES FOR IT WELL ME AND AND TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS IN IT WAS JUST ONE WAY THAT I WONDER WHY THEY DID A LOT OF IT IT HAD SOME POTHOLES AND THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THEY NEED TO THIS ONE WHERE REALLY DID HAVE NO LUCK IT IT WAS ONE THE WAY DETROIT HAD PROVED OVER MORGAN ROAD WHO'S NOT THE SUM OF WHO OWNS IT DON'T GO BIG YEAH YOU GOT TO BE BIG RIGHT DOWN THERE. AND THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE THESE WERE STATE ROADS THAT THE STATE WOULD NEVER TOUCH AND IF IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT WILL BECAUSE OKAY ABSURD WOULD BE LIKE YOU KNOW HIT ME A GUY ON THIS LAST MINUTE DID KNOW I WASN'T TRYING TO TELL YOU.

[5.E. CTC STATE SECONDARY PROJECT UPDATE < 500 ADT. UPDATE Rusty Bratz., Transportation Construction Manager]

YEAH THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU INDIVIDUALLY PICKED AND I'LL MAKE A NOTE TO MAKE

[5.F. SR 170 & TRIANGE UPDATE Mr. Eric Claussen, P.E., Director of Engineering]

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SO WE'VE ALSO AS A ENGINEERING GROUP LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL TIMING ALONG ALONG THE CORRIDOR AT ORIGIN FOR 62 AND MADE SOME TWEAKS THERE AS WELL BUT THIS THIS PROJECT WILL COMPLEMENT THAT AND AGAIN WE'LL WE'LL HOPEFULLY PROVIDE SOME MUCH NEEDED RELIEF TO AT LEAST THE 179 ORIGIN INTERSECTION AS FAR AS TRAFFIC CONCERNS GO, THERE WAS ONE MORNING WHEN I THINK WE PLAYED 715 IN THE MORNING IT TOOK ME 45 MINUTES TO GO FROM CALLAWAY DRIVE TO OF COURSE AND THAT WAS WHAT SO TYPICALLY AND THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT IS NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH THE SIGNALS HAVING A LONG 170 THERE'S THAT MUCH MORE TRAFFIC FROM THIS SCHOOL YEAR COMPARED TO LAST SPRING WHEN IT LET OUT SO HAD BEEN CHANGED ALONG THERE WE SAW THE SAME THING AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WENT THROUGH WE'VE WE'VE MORE THAN DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF GREEN TIME THAT WE'RE GIVING TO 170 IT'S HELPED THAT WAS PROBABLY AFTER ABOUT MIDWEEK LAST WEEK SO IT'S HELD BUT IT'S STILL STILL CONGESTION ISSUES THE ARGENT PIECE OF THE 117 YEAR TERM PROJECT IS GOING TO MAKE ARGENT A DUAL TURN COMING OFF OF COMING OFF THE ROAD.

SO THAT MEANS WE CAN GIVE LESS TIME TO ARGENT AND MORE TIME BACK TO 170 TO HELP AGAIN CLEAR THAT UP IF Y'ALL DONE ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES ON WORLD IS TRAFFIC COMING FROM WELL I MEAN IT'S YEAH WE HAVE UPDATED TRAFFIC VOLUMES AS FAR AS WHERE COMING FROM WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIKE ORIGIN DESTINATION STUDIES TO KNOW IT A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVED TO BEAUFORT THAT ARE NOW WORKING IN BLUFFTON. TYPICALLY IT TAKES A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO NORMALIZE OUT AFTER SCHOOL STARTS BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WELL INTO WEEK THREE OR FOUR AFTER SCHOOL STARTED AND THE TRAFFIC WAS STILL THERE SO TYPICALLY PEOPLE FIGURE THEIR SCHEDULES OUT AND MODIFY THAT BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT WASN'T HELPING SO WE HAD TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS AND AGAIN THIS PROJECT ITSELF WILL COMPLIMENT ALL THAT BACKGROUND UPDATE FOR YOU WHEN JENNY WAS AT WORK OUT AND STEPHANIE WAS JUST SHE WAS COMING BOARD WITH THE TRANSITION AIR WE HAD HEARD THEY HAD HEARD A ECOM TO DO THE STUDY. THEY ENCOURAGED A COMPLETE STUDY ANALYSIS BUT IN THAT TIME SPAN THE THREE OR FOUR YEAR TIME SPAN BETWEEN THE TRAFFIC THAT THAT AREA GETS, THE TRAFFIC VOLUME OF 1340, 45, 40 TO 45080 AND 170 AND 278.

IT THAT'S HOW HIGH IT IS AT THAT LOCATION AND AIRBORNE THE COUNTY IS PAYING FOR AN UPDATE TO A COM TO REVISE THAT STUDY AS WE'RE SITTING HERE SPEAKING ACTUALLY ANOTHER COUPLE OF DIFFERENT STUDIES GOING AND THIS KIND OF LENDS ITSELF TO THE TRIANGLE STUDY IS WE ARE UPDATING IS AS CHAIRMAN SAID WE'RE UPDATING THE 170 STUDY WHICH WE'RE GOING A LITTLE BIT FARTHER TO THE SEA GRASS STATION INTERSECTION THAT TYPE WATCH OH GOODNESS DRAWING A BLANK ON THE NAME BUT IT THAT SEAGRASS THE ONE INTERSECTION TO THE SOUTH OF OKATIE CENTER SOUTH IT'S ALSO INCLUDING 462 BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY RELOCATING 62 IN BETWEEN THE A'S SCHOOL AND JOHN PAUL TO PROVIDE SIGNALIZED ACCESS TO BOTH OF THOSE SCHOOLS . SO I KNOW JOHN PAUL GETS CONGESTED IN THE MORNING THERE.

THERE'S SOME SAFETY THAT THEY HAVE WITH PARENTS COMING AND GOING FROM THAT SITE.

SO RELOCATING 462 AND BETWEEN THOSE TWO SCHOOLS PROVIDES FOR THAT AS WELL AS THE COUNTY JUST PURCHASED 100 ACRES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 170 FOR A FUTURE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER.

SO ALL THAT KIND OF PLAYS TOGETHER INTO JUSTIFYING A POTENTIAL RELOCATION FOR 62.

LONG STORY SHORT, AECOM IS STUDYING THAT AS A PART OF THE UPDATED STUDY YOU KNOW THE 100 ACRES NOT ONLY JUST FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT INITIALLY BUT IT COULD BE A NEW HOME.

THE ADMINISTRATION ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE.

THE OTHER ONE THAT I'LL ADD IS WE DID A SIGNAL WARN ANALYSIS AT THE INTERSECTION OF OLDFIELD AND 170 IT DOES WARRANT THE SIGNAL THAT HAS THE PLANS HAD BEEN COMPLETED BY AECOM AND SENT UP TO DOD FOR COMMENT THE INTERSECTION IS APPROVED HOWEVER WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE FUNDING BECAUSE HARTSVILLE HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER OF SERGEANT

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IT IS IT IS THE POINT OF THE QUESTION I HAD WAS IF IT WAS BEING UPDATED, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WAS THE WORD THE HIGHWAY WAS TO BE TREATED AS A SYSTEM AND NOT JUST AN IMPROVEMENT HERE AND AN IMPROVEMENT THERE WHICH USUALLY ADDS BOTTLENECKS AS OPPOSED TO SOLVING THEM.

SO I WAS JUST INTERESTED IN WHERE THINGS WERE ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE THAT WAS A PROJECT SOME YEARS AGO SO IT ACTUALLY IS THE SHORT TERM OF THE THREE AND THREE TYPE GROUPINGS.

YEAH THIS WAS THE SHORT TERM NOT THE INTERMEDIATE AND LONG TERM THE INTERMEDIATE LONG TERM I THINK IS GOING TO BE TRIED TO FUND WHATEVER THE COUNTY DOES THE ONCE AND SALES TAX FOR NEXT YEAR SO IF THAT GETS FUNDED IT WILL FUND A WHOLE LOT OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE I WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE DO WELL IN THAT JUST A BLEND OR TWO TO LEAD INTO THE TRIANGLE PROJECT QUICK SO WE'VE GOT AECOM LOOKING AT THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF THE 170 CORRIDOR THERE THERE ARE TWO OTHER TWO ADDITIONAL LED STUDIES THAT ARE GOING ON WELL THREE ACTUALLY SO WE HAVE 170 THAT'S GOING TO BE STUDIED FROM THE 46TH CIRCLE ALL THE WAY TO BOUNDARY STREET ON TOP OF KIND OF OVERLAPPING OVER THE TOP OF THAT THAT'S STUDY THAT THIS IS OCCURRING OR WORKING ON GETTING STARTED RIGHT NOW AS WELL AS 278 FROM 95 OR 17 ALL THE WAY TO SECOND CIRCLE.

SO AGAIN ALL THAT WILL BE STUDIED YOU KNOW AGAIN PORTIONS OF THAT HAVE BEEN STUDIED FOR THE FOR THE TRIANGLE PROJECT BUT THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME OVERLAP WITH THE GREATER STUDY THERE AS WELL. SO AGAIN STILL WORKING OUT THE ON THE TRIANGLE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A 100 ABOUT $200 MILLION PROJECT. SO REALISTICALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SALES TAX OR SOME KIND OF GRANT FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO FUND A LARGE PROJECT OF THAT. SO MORE TO COME ON THAT AND ONLY A PORTION OF IT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, RIGHT? YES. YEAH.

AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT IN IN HARTSVILLE IS PAYING FOR SFD TO TALK TO THIS AS WELL ALREADY BILL IS PAYING FOR AN ADDITIONAL STUDY FROM 17 OR I-95 DOWN TO OREGON SO THEY THEY REALIZE AND RECOGNIZE THE CONCERNS ON THAT PARTICULAR PIECE SO HORN IS PROVIDING THEM A STUDY ON THAT AND THEY'RE PAYING FOR THAT OUT HORRIBLE FUNDS.

[5.G. US278 & BRIDGE STATUS Mr. Eric Claussen, P.E., Director of Engineering]

WE'VE GOT THE DRAFT WE'VE REVIEWED AND SENT COMMENTS BACK TO CCB WHO IS THE CONSULTANT THAT'S WORKING THAT FOR THE TOWN AND FOR THE COUNTY THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO COUNTY COUNCIL ON 925. SO ON MONDAY IS WHEN THAT WILL BE PRESENTED HERE AND THEN IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE TOWN ON OCTOBER 3RD. SO AGAIN AFTER THAT THERE WILL MAKE A JUDGMENT AS TO WHEN GETS ALL WHEN ALL THE MATERIAL GETS PACKAGED TOGETHER AND GETS SENT UP TO FAA FOR THE NEXT STEPS. YES. AND AS I NOTICED AND IT KIND OF SURPRISED ME MAYBE I WAS NAIVE AND NOT CHECKING MY NOTICES BUT A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS GOING UP ON JENNINGS ROAD AND TO 78. YEAH THAT'S A GOOD POINT WAS SO THE BACKGROUND ON THAT THERE WERE SOME SAFETY THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON JENKINS ISLAND THEY IDENTIFIED THEY I BELIEVE THEY WERE PARTIALLY FUNDED AND THE WHOLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE 278 BRIDGE CAME UP IT JUST MADE SENSE AT THAT TIME THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO INCORPORATE THOSE INTO THE THAT OVERALL 278 CORRIDOR BRIDGE PROJECT THIS WAS A KEY PIECE TO THAT THOUGH ESPECIALLY AS WE GET INTO CONSTRUCTION ON THE OVERALL BRIDGE TO CREATE SAFE ACCESS FOR THOSE COMING IN AND OUT OF WHEN THE HARBOR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALREADY CONGESTED OBVIOUSLY IN THE MORNING IN THE PM AND ESPECIALLY ON THE SATURDAYS WHEN YOU HAVE TURNOVER. SO AGAIN AHEAD OF THAT PROJECT WE HAD SENT A LETTER TO DOT DOT OBLIGED AND THEY SAID YES GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT.

SO THAT SIGNAL IS JUST ABOUT READY TO GO OPERATIONAL SHOULD BE FLASHING BY SOMETIME NEXT WEEK AND THEN FULLY OPERATIONAL THE WEEK AS THE IMPACT OF THAT SIGNAL INTO THE OVERALL STUDY IT IS YES. SO HILTON HEAD HAS WORKED ON AN ADAPTIVE SYSTEM ADAPTIVE SIGNAL SYSTEM ON THE ON THE ISLAND. THIS INITIALLY IS NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THAT WE WE WILL ADD THAT INTO IT AT SOME POINT HOWEVER THERE'S SUCH LOW VOLUME COMING IN AND OUT OF WINDMILL HARBOR THAT WILL GIVE PLENTY OF TIME AND YOU OBSERVATIONS OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT

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COULD OCCUR FIRST. I'M SORRY ERIC I'M THE SIGNAL THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT'S GOING ON FLASHING IS GOING TO BE TURNED ON. WHAT IS THAT INTERSECTION? I MEAN IT'S IT'S OUT WHEN THE HARBOR IT'S GATE GATEWAY GATEWAY BOULEVARD AND THE IS CEO CIRCLE ON ONE SIDE AND GATEWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE. IT'S IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST TWO PROJECTS. ONE THAT THE COUNTY IS INVOLVED IN THE ONE THAT HILTON HEAD IS SORT OF INVOLVED AND I THINK YOU SAID AND I HOPE MY HEARING WAS CORRECT THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT WHICH WAY THE TOWN IS GOING TO GO TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN WOULD YOU SAY. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE TOWN WAS PART OF THE INDEPENDENT STUDY THAT WE PROCURED IS COUNTY WHICH WAS CVB A FIRM OUT OF SAINT LOUIS TO DO THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF THE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED THUS FAR ON 78 THE TOWN WAS A PART OF THAT THEY WERE PARTY TO THAT AGREEABLE THAT HOWEVER I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH A AN ADDITIONAL INDEPENDENT REVIEW SO AGAIN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT HOWEVER THEY MADE COMMENTS THE TOWN REPRESENTATIVES HAVE MADE COMMENTS THEY'VE BEEN PRESENT DURING THIS ENTIRE AND AGAIN IT'S BEEN A IT'S BEEN A POSITIVE PROCESS SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS WHEN THAT'S PRESENTED TO COUNTY OR TO TOWN COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 3RD THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD BUT WE'RE NOT CONFIDENT ON THAT IS IS THERE A DATE THAT HILTON HEAD IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE AN ANSWER ON LET'S JUST SAY THE ROADWAY PROJECT THROUGH STONY AND WHAT HAVE YOU ARE THEY GOING TO CONTINUE CONSULTING SHOP? I MEAN WHEN DO THEY HAVE A DATE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE AN ANSWER AS TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THAT SECTION? I THINK THE ONLY DATE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS IS OCTOBER 3RD AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, AGAIN WILL WE WILL ASK THE QUESTION FOLLOWING THAT AND FOLLOWING BASICALLY THE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP TO THE CONSULTANT AT THAT POINT ABOUT POTENTIALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH WITH THE FONSI AND SENDING THAT OFF TO AS A WAY IS THAT GOING TO BE THAT DATE GOING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ANOTHER CONTROL AT THIS TIME? I DON'T KNOW THE DATE ON HIRING THEIR OTHER CONSULTANT SO THEY THEY HAVE AGAIN THEY'VE BEEN A PARTY TO TO REVIEW THEY KNOW THE DEADLINE AND THE DATES THAT OF THE OF THE TO COUNTY COUNCIL AS WELL AS TO THEIR COUNCIL I KNOW AT THIS POINT ON THE DATE ON THEIR SELECTION FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THEY HAVE NOT THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT ANYONE TO PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL STUDY IF IF THE TOWN OF HILTON SAYS NO TO THE PROJECTS TO THE PROJECT AND YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE COUNTY'S PART WHAT IS COUNTY CONSIDERING GOING AHEAD WITH SHOULD THE TOWN SAY NO ON IF YOU GET ACROSS THE BRIDGE SO TO SPEAK? I THINK THAT QUESTION IS OUT MY

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I'M I'M ONE OF THOSE THAT I'LL COME ON AFTER YOU UP THIS THAT WAS A SMART MOVE TAKEN THE LONGER WALK GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SAY WHETHER SOMETHING HAS TO GO AHEAD GREAT THE QUESTION IS IF THE IF THE TOWN WAS ASKING ERIC AND HE GAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION AND INFORMATION THAT I'M CONFIDENT IS TRUE BUT WHAT IF THE WHAT IF THE TOWN SAYS NO AFTER THEY'VE THEIR CONSULTING SHOPPING WHAT IS THE COUNTY AND IS THE DEPARTMENT GOING TO PROCEED WITH BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU IF I WAS STILL ON THE COMMISSION AND THE TOWN SAID NO I WOULD BE VERY VERY RELUCTANT SPENDING A COUPLE OF HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS ON A SAFER BRIDGE AND WHATEVER I'D SAY TO SPEND $40 MILLION AND REPLACE THE ONE BRIDGE. SO WHAT WHAT'S THE INTENT OF THE COUNTY IN THE STATE AS IT RELATES TO WHAT IS OUR PROJECT.

YEAH THE PROJECT NOW IS THE WHOLE PROJECT WE'RE MOVING ALONG WITH OUR FRIENDS ON THAT CASE THE PENDING THE THE STUDY WE HAVE THAT'S ABOUT TO BE PRESENTED THE INDEPENDENCE JOINT INDEPENDENT STUDY GROUP WE'RE GOING TO PREPARE TO SUBMIT FUNDS SO WITH TO THE HIGHWAY FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THE FUNDS THE APPROVAL FOR THE WHOLE FROM LET'S JUST SAY THE BRIDGE IN THE SIX LANE SECTION DOWN TO THE PARKWAY THAT'S AND WHAT HAPPENS LATER IF IF IF THE TOWN DOES NOT GIVE THE GIVE THEIR PERMISSION TO DO THAT AT THAT POINT THAT'LL BE IN CONSIDERATION FEDERAL HIGHWAY SO WE'LL WORK WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAY WITH THAT SITUATION IF THAT ARISES AND AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK YOU'RE TRYING GET TO IF ALL THIS FAILS AND WE CAN'T PUSH FORWARD D.O.T. IS COMMITTED TO REPLACE THE ONE FAILING OR NOT FAILING BUT THE ONE THAT'S IN NEED OF REPEAT REPLACEMENT.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT BUT IF IF YOU HAD TO HAMMER AND THE TOWN SAYS NO TO THE SIX LANE SECTION AND YOU HAD A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO COST A COUPLE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS JUST TO REPLACE THE BRIDGE AND THEN WHATEVER OR WHATEVER WHATEVER WOULD YOU STILL GO AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT HAVING A SIX LANE BRIDGE INFRINGE ON THE ISLAND IT DOESN'T REALLY REPLACE THE BRIDGE THE BRIDGE IN ITSELF IS IS A WORTHWHILE PROJECT AND IT HOWEVER THE THE ISSUE THAT WOULD STAND THEN THE NEPA DOCUMENT AND THE LOGICAL TERMINI EXACT BECAUSE THEY WOULD SAY BUILDING THE BRIDGE TO A DEAD END IS NOT A LOGICAL TERM. THAT'S CORRECT SO EVEN IF THERE'S A DESIRE BY THE STATE AND THE COUNTY TO MOVE FORWARD THERE WOULD BE AN ISSUE REGARDING THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY AND THE FUNDS DECISION OR ENVIRONMENTAL DECISION BECAUSE OF THAT LOGICAL TERMINAL.

AND IF THAT WAS NOT EXPERIENCE I WOULD THINK THAT YOU'D HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME CONVINCING THE

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AND IF AGAIN IF THAT LOGICAL TERMINAL IS NOT IT'S JUST REPLACING THE BRIDGE AND YOU DON'T HAVE A LOGICAL TERMINAL THAT'S ONE JUST REPLACE THE BRIDGE ITSELF CHANGES THE PURPOSE AND NEED WHICH MEANS YOU RESTART OVER THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT AS WELL AND THEN DECIDED JUST TO PROJECT SO THERE ARE RAMIFICATIONS IF WE GET TO THAT THE INTENT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS A MIDDLE OF THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY AT THE CONCLUSION OF OF THE STUDY IF THAT'S YOUR INTENT WHAT THEY WOULD YOU LIKE TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW OUR SCHEDULED DATE IS 20 IN AND 2425 THAT'S PURSUING THAT. WE CAN FINISH THE DESIGN AND FINISH THE RIGHT WAY ACQUISITION AND PUT IT OUT TO BID SO AND THEN THE FINAL COMPLETION WOULD BE THE END OF 2028 IF WE HAVE MATERIAL CHANGES OR MATERIAL ISSUES WITH REGARD THE SCHEDULE BETWEEN HERE AND NOW THAT DATE MIGHT BE IN JEOPARDY. WE COULD CARRY ON AND I I'VE TAKEN ENOUGH WAS PREPARED WE HAD A QUESTION DO ASSUMING THAT YOU GO FORWARD AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRYING TO PUT YOU GUYS ON THE SPOT ASSUMING THAT YOU GO FORWARD WITH THE BRIDGE AND WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE ON THE ISLAND, WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THE MONEY NOW ESTIMATED ORIGINAL ESTIMATE VERSUS YOUR CURRENT ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE GIVEN INFORMATION AND THE LATEST ESTIMATE WE HAVE IS AT THE TIME OF THE THE UPDATED MODIFIED PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AND IT'S A PRICE OF $330 MILLION AND WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY $300 MILLION. SO THERE'S A $30 MILLION GAP THERE TODAY AS STANDS INSIDE OF THAT THOUGH, WE STILL A 30% DESIGN SET SO THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF CONTINGENCY INTO THE ESTIMATE AS IT STANDS. SO EITHER BETWEEN THE REFINED DESIGN THERE MAY BE A REDUCTION OR AND BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE GET STARTED THERE MAY A REDUCTION OR ADDITION AS FAR AS INFLATIONARY MEASURES BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR LATEST COST ESTIMATE IN OUR SO IS THERE IS THERE ONE THOUGHT AS TO HOW YOU'RE GOING TO RAISE THAT FOR YOU HERE IN BETWEEN WITH THE TWO NUMBERS THAT I'M HEARING I HEARD 20 AND I HEARD 40 SO YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON.

IS THERE IS THERE A PATH FORWARD THAT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED TO RAISE THAT ADDITIONAL THE TWO FUNDING SOURCES THAT THAT ARE PRESENTLY THAT WOULD BE SO SUBSTANTIAL WORTHWHILE WOULD BE A SUBSEQUENT SALES TAX OR FEDERAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

SO YOU HAVE OTHER THAN THE SALES TAX YOU DO HAVE SOME DISCRETIONARY GRANT DON'T AND SENATOR DAVIS ALSO COMMITTED TO FUNDING TRYING TO GET FUNDING OUT OF D.O.T. TO HELP WITH THAT DELTA AS YEAH OKAY I DO THANKS SO MUCH. NEXT ITEM BY ITEM H HAS BEEN TO

[5.H. BENTON FIELD RD & DEVELOPMENT Kraig Gordon, Chairman]

ALSO PUT METAL GRADES. YEAH RIGHT. SO ANY SHORTFALL THAT WE HAVE IN THE WAY OF CONCRETE PUBLIC WORKS HAS AGREED TO PICK UP THAT DELTA TO TAKE CARE OF THAT AND THEN I CHECK WITH BRIAN THE LATEST FROM BLYTHE IS THEY HAVE IT ON THEIR SCHEDULE AND POTENTIALLY STARTED AS EARLY AS THE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER SO THAT IS THE GAME PLAN FOR RIGHT NOW. SO WE'VE MADE THE FUNDING WHOLE AND WE HAVE A PROJECT TIMELINE SO STARTED HAS BEEN OVER IT'S THE LAST OF OUR CONTRACT SO WE HAVE TO CLOSE IT OUT AND I'M

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THAT ROAD HAS REALLY TAKEN A LOT OF HITS AS FAR AS JUST THE AMOUNT AND THE VEHICULAR WEIGHT THAT'S ON THAT PARTICULAR ROAD . THERE'S AREAS THAT ARE JUST NOT GOOD FOR ANY KIND OF JUST SIMPLE OVERLAYS. SO WE'RE GOING FULL DEPTH CONCRETE PATCHING ON A LOT OF IT AND THEN ASPHALT IN BETWEEN SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR IT BEING BROUGHT UP AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WANTED NUMBER SIX NEW BUSINESS JUST

[6.A. ADDITIONAL CTC FUNDING]

SO THEY GOT SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND ADDITIONAL FUNDS WITH ROUGHLY $480,000 TO US A TAB MOVED AROUND THE PERCENTAGE ON IT AND THAT MEANS THAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET DOES NOT HAVE TO BE USED ON FEDERAL PROJECTS NO I, I HAVE NOT SPOKEN EVER FOR MY DISTRICT AND I'M GOING TO BE PARTICULAR DO THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE HAVE TAKEN BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND BLUFFTON PARK WAS DESIGNED THE DISTRICT PORTION OF IT WAS BUILT AROUND TEN OR 12 YEARS AGO AND SERVES FOUR FROM BUCK ISLAND AND DOWN AROUND SIMMONS WHICH WAS I THINK THE FIRST STRIP AND I'VE HEARD FROM BRIAN TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE ROAD WAS A 20 YEAR DESIGN BUT A TEN YEARS WE'RE ALREADY GETTING MORE THAN THE TRAFFIC.

THE ROAD WAS DESIGNED FOR A YEAR AND A HALF WE TWO YEARS AGO WE RESURFACED A GOOD PORTION OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY WE HAD A STORM COME IN AND A STORM DROP TO A VERY SHORT OF TIME MORE THAN TWO OR THREE INCHES OF RAIN AND IF YOU PUT IT IN THE BOSTON PARKWAY, THAT ORIGINAL SECTION, A LOT OF AREAS THAT HAVE HAS EXPOSED IT'S GRAVEL AND NEEDS ATTENTION WELL THE FOUR TIMES STAFF HAS HEARD MY PLEA AND BASICALLY TO LOOK AT IT AND THEY'VE HIRED A TEAM GO AND ANALYZE THE SITE TO REMOVE SECTIONS OF ROAD TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE TO REPAIR.

IT'S THE ONLY PLACE BLUFFTON PARKWAY THAT REALLY HAS ANY REAL ISSUES AND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST FOR THE COMMUNITY TO CONSIDER TO PROVIDING THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR REPAIRING AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY SO RATHER THAN IS ONE OF THE MOST HEAVILY TRAVELED STREETS IN ALL OF BEAUFORT COUNTY AND IT'S A MESS RIGHT NOW AND WITH THAT WE'LL TRY TO GET THE FUNDING OUT OF IMPACT FEES TO OFFSET THE DOLLAR CONSIDERATIONS HERE.

SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR CONSIDER AND I THINK THE $430,000 WOULD BE A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR BLUFFTON PARKWAY LOOKING FOR EMOTION? YES.

SOME OF YOUR WORDING DO I HAVE A CERTAIN SECOND DISCUSSION QUESTION I WOULD QUESTION ARE THERE WHAT WOULD THE ALTERNATIVE PROJECT BE FOR SPENDING THAT MONEY? WHATEVER WE DECIDE. SO I MEAN THERE'S NOTHING LINED UP THAT'S I WAS WONDERING IF WE WERE GOING TO DECIDE NO. THREE OKAY. YES OR IS IT IS IT A PRIORITY OF THE COUNTY? YES YES. AND I KNOW YOU'RE I KNOW THE SECTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU'RE UNAFFILIATED. CORRECT.

IT'S IT'S IN VERY BAD CONDITION. THE HOPE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO MAJOR MILLVILLE WHAT WHAT KIND OF WELL FIRST OF ALL DOES THE FOURTH I HOPE I DIDN'T MISS THOSE BUT IS THE $470,000 IMPACTING ANYTHING ELSE IN YOUR PLATE? NO. WHAT KIND OF TIME FRAME ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AND IS THERE GOING BE ARE WE APPROVING OR IS WE'RE APPROVING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE

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SO WE'RE ONLY CONTRIBUTING A PROPORTION OF WHAT THE TOTAL REPAIR IS THE THE COUNTY HAS DONE IN THE REST OF THE IS DOING THE REST THAT WILL THE COMMITTEE BE RECOGNIZED AS PROVIDING THAT MONEY. WE'LL SEE TO THAT THAT BE NICE TO HAVE THIS COMMITTEE IT'S A NICE POSITIVE RECOGNITION I'M ABSOLUTELY IN THE AREA FOR THE DISCUSSION FOR MAKE SURE THE LANGUAGE IS CLEAR OF THE MOTIONS THERE SO WE KNOW THE 47,000 IS FOR REPAIRS 7220 72,000 IS FOR REPAIRS OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY, BLUFFTON FROM BUCK ISLAND DOWN TO SIMMONS WILL TAKE THAT BACK. IT GOES DOWN INTO THE GROUND ABOVE AND SO IT'S FROM BUCK ISLAND TO THE ROUNDABOUT. YES, THAT'LL BE PER THE COUNTY'S ASSESSMENT OF THE CORRECT THROUGH PROPER REPAIRS . AND WHEN COULD THIS GET UNDERWAY THIS YEAR IF NOT THIS YEAR NEXT NEXT SPRING? IT'S A DIRE NEED.

OKAY. THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY.

I MADE THOSE BOTH AREAS I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW I WANT ALSO ALSO WILL EXCUSE ME I'M TIRED OF OPINIONS ON WHERE DO I DO AROUND WHO DO I GO TO SEE IF I'M GETTING THAT ELEVATED ALSO IS SO THERE'S AN ELEMENT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT OKAY WE'RE LOOKING UP THAT MIGHT COME UNDER SEA LEVEL RISE IN ALL JUST REAL QUICK ON THAT SO A PORTION OF THE OF THE 2024 SALES TAX THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THERE'S A PORTION OF THAT RESILIENCY. WE'RE ALSO IDENTIFYING GRANT FUNDING FOR RESILIENCY TO.

DO A STUDY ON ALL THE THE ROADS THAT ARE THAT ARE OVERTOPPING DURING TIDE EVENTS.

SO AGAIN WE'RE WORKING ON THAT THAT WILL DELIVER US OR GIVE US THE LIST SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU ALL HAVE WITH THE ROADS TO BE ABLE TO ITEMIZE WHAT THE WHAT THOSE ROADS ARE IN PRIORITIZE THOSE FOR THAT RESILIENCY PART OF FUNDING FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE SALES TAX AS WELL AS GRANT FUNDING BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT THESE PEOPLE ON THIS ISLAND AS A WAY OFF.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THANK YOU.

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YOU KNOW WE WE STARTED THE YEAR WITH A BALANCE OF ABOUT $4.7 MILLION ON HAND MAJOR MAJOR REVENUE SOURCES WERE DONOR BONUS OF $434,000 AND THEN THE ONE TIME ALLOCATION FROM $200 MILLION THAT CAME FROM STATE TO THE COUNTIES. OUR PORTION WAS 5.7 WAS $5.8 BILLION. SO FOR THE YEAR WE HAD TOTAL REVENUES OF ALMOST $8.8 MILLION WE PAID OUT ON PROJECT JUST A LITTLE OVER $4 MILLION. SO ENDED THE FISCAL YEAR WITH A WITH THE BALANCE ABOUT 9.4 MILLION SIERRA AND I FOUND A GLITCH IN THE FORMULA SO IT

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THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ONE TIME THAT CRAIG JUST TALKED ABOUT 470 MILLION.

SO THAT COMES FROM THE THE LATEST GIFT FROM THE STATE. I AT THIS MOMENT DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON THE ANNUAL PERCENTAGES. MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WOULD BE NICE FOR YOU TO PUT THAT AT THE TOP OF YOUR LIST THAT MEASURES AND AGAIN WE'RE REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE TO 33% OF OUR FUNDING ON STATE PROJECTS AND THE 67% TO BE SPENT ON COUNTY PROJECTS AND WE WERE VERY CLOSE TO DOING THAT I BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING I'M GOING TO ASK THE FULL TIME STAFF TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY MOVING UP OUR PREVIOUS SCHEDULE IN YEAR SEVEN AND EIGHT WITH THE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN A BALANCE OF 300% OVER WHAT THE ANNUAL WAS. SO IF YOU GO TO 300% WE GET 3.5 MILLION ROUGHLY ANNUALLY GETS US UP TO ABOUT 10 MILLION. SO WE'RE PUSHING AT WHAT WE CAN KEEP IN OUR POCKETS LEGITIMATELY WITHOUT GETTING IN TROUBLE WITH DOJ SO THAT MAKES MEANING WE WILL BE DISCUSSING MAYBE MOVING SOME PROJECTS SINCE WE'RE STARTING WITH A BALANCE OF ROUGHLY $8,000,089 MILLION WE NEED TO BE SPENDING MORE OF OUR MONEY. WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE ANY MONEY BACK. THAT'S A FACT. WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

THEY WILL BE COMING AFTER US FOR THAT IF WE'RE DOING THE IF WE CLOSE OUT AGAIN PUBLICLY NUMBER EIGHT TO AGENDA ITEMS ON IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IF I MAY I DON'T KNOW WHETHER PUBLIC COMMENT IS IF IF IF I MAY ASK A FAVOR OF THE COUNTY IT HAS TO DO WITH INTERSECTIONS 278 SUNSET BOULEVARD AND 278 IN COASTAL CAROLINA AND HOSPITAL. NOW I REALIZE THAT'S IN JASPER COUNTY ANY AMOUNT OF TIME OWING TO SOME CIVIL WAR THE LOCAL STREETS SERVING THE HOSPITAL AND WHATEVER I'M TALKING ABOUT 530 IN THE MORNING AND IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS AND WORK WITH OUR FRIENDS FROM JASPER COUNTY ON ON THE OTHER ONE AND YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME AND TELL WHAT'S GOING ON AT 530 IN THE MORNING THERE IS BACKUPS AGAIN IN 530 ESPECIALLY AT THE ONE IN COASTAL CAROLINA HOSPITAL I'M ON THE LEFT TURN SIGNALS SO FEELS LIKE THEY THEY MISSED AN INORDINATE OF TIME AND I'M WONDERING IF SOMEBODY HAS WORKED THESE TWO SIGNALS AND THE ONE AT SUNSET BOULEVARD AGAIN THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GREEN TIME GOING TO SUN CITY BOULEVARD RATHER THAN THE 278 SO I'M ASKING FOR A FAVOR IF YOU COULD GET BACK TO ME AND LET ME KNOW WHAT'S ON WITH THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT. SO NO ITEM NUMBER NINE

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