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[8. DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION OF YEAR TO DATE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR FY 2024]

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. BUT REVENUE CAN BE POSTED AUTOMATICALLY INSTEAD OF US

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HAVING TO DO A MANUAL JOURNAL ENTRY THAT'LL THAT'LL BE REAL TIME POSTING FROM NOW ON WE CAN

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GET THAT WORKING THIS YEAR AND IT WILL NOT DELAY OUR REPORTING OF THE REVENUE LIKE IT RIGHT

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NOW. SO THESE ARE EXPENDITURES FOR THE CAPITAL FUND.

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I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ. THERE'S A LOT OF ITEMS UP THERE BUT IN A NUTSHELL WE'VE ROLLED OVER SOME POS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR FOR THIS FUND AND SO THIS ELIMINATED THE NEED FOR STAFF TO HAVE TO REESTABLISH A NEW PO FOR THE SAME VENDOR FOR THE SAME PROJECT AS WE'VE BEEN DOING YEARS PAST. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE ROLLED THE EXISTING PO OVER AND BROUGHT BUDGET OVER WITH IT SO I WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU THE NEXT MEETING FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION A AMENDMENT TO AN IMPROVEMENT FUND ABOUT $3.2 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT WE HAD IN POS THAT WE ROLLED OVER FOR EXISTING PROJECTS FROM LAST YEAR. CAN WE ASK A QUESTION? DO YOU TO WAIT TILL THE END? NO. GO. DO YOU WANT IT WAS FUN.

CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE ROLL OVER THE AMBULANCES THAT WE HAD ON ORDER WE ROLLED OVER THAT'S A THIRD LINE FROM THE TOP 817,000 IS THAT WHAT IT I CAN'T READ THAT I CAN'T SEE HEY 17 OKAY THOSE WERE FOR AMBULANCE SO THAT COLUMN RIGHT THERE THIS IS THE PO BUDGET ROLL ARE THE PPOS THAT ROLLED IN THOSE LINE ITEMS .

YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY SO IN SUMMARY WE HAVE FOR THIS IS A YEAR SUMMARY FOR LAST YEAR IS I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE CLOSED OUT THE FINALLY THE FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE WE HAD THE STORM I WAS SUPPOSED TO CLOSE THE BOOKS DURING THE HURRICANE SO WE DELAYED THAT BY WE SO WE CLOSED THE BOOKS AND THERE'S A DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT 11.9 MILLION AND THAT'S ATTRIBUTED THE TRANSFERS TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND FOR PROJECTS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 23 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND BUDGET THAT TRANSFER I BELIEVE ALL APPROVED $9 MILLION EARLY LAST FISCAL YEAR AND THE PURCHASE OF THE HILLS AND WAY PROPERTY I THINK THAT WAS 3.4 MILLION SO THAT DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE IS MAINLY DUE TO THOSE TWO ITEMS AND ALL KNEW THAT WE HAD SURPLUS IN THE GENERAL FUND AND WE WOULD BE USING SURPLUS TO FUND SOMETHING SO THAT WAS TO BE EXPECTED.

REVENUES CAME IN FOR THE GENERAL FUND AT 139.2 MILLION WHICH IS 79 AND A HALF PERCENT COLLECTED. AND THEN THE EXPENDITURES CAME IN AT 91.6% OF THE BUDGET EXPENDED, 153.4 MILLION. SO WE'RE STARTING OUR AUDIT NOW FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 SO THAT CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE COULD CHANGE. IT PROBABLY WILL CHANGE A LITTLE BIT NOT TOO MUCH THOUGH . SO WE'LL KNOW MORE AS THE AUDIT SEASON PROGRESSES JUST TO GIVE YOU A SMALL BIT OF INFORMATION HERE.

SO WE STARTED OUR CHART OF ACCOUNTS CONVERSION IN MUNIS LAST YEAR.

IT WAS IT'S A HUGE CHART OF ACCOUNTS AND IT'S 26,388 LINE ITEMS. SO CHRISTINE WEBB WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF COMPLIANCE AND INTERNAL CONTROLS SHE AND I HAVE BEEN TACKLING THIS PROJECT SINCE LAST FALL AND WE'VE GOT IT DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, A MINIMAL

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AMOUNT OF ACCOUNTS WE HAD FUNDS THAT WE HAD 389 FUNDS IN OUR CHART OF ACCOUNTS.

SO WE'VE GOTTEN DOWN TO 180 WHICH I STILL THINK IS A LOT. SO WE HAVE WE PROBABLY WILL GET THAT DOWN A LITTLE LOWER. SO WE'RE IMPLEMENTING PROJECT ACCOUNTING.

THIS IS BRAND NEW TO COUNTY SO I USE ACCOUNTING AT MY OTHER TWO JOBS BEFORE I STARTED HERE AND IT IS A VERY USEFUL TOOL, VERY TRANSPARENT AND VERY EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT METHOD TO FOR REPORTING GRANTS AND PROJECTS IN CONSTRUCTION JUST ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT THE STAFF IS REALLY GOING TO LIKE IT. I KNOW THEY ARE, CHRISTINE.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO HER BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE HERE AT ONLY 6552 ACCOUNTS WITHOUT HER WE'RE 99% WITH THE CONVERSION WE'RE IN OUR TESTING PHASES RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE SENT AN EMAIL OUT TO STAFF ASKING THEM TO GO INTO THE TEST ENVIRONMENT TO TEST ALL THE TRANSACTIONS WE'RE GETTING COUPLE OF ERRORS THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING.

SO HOPEFULLY THIS PROJECT WILL WRAPPED UP NEXT WEEK AND THEN WE'LL FLIP THE SWITCH FOR PROJECT ACCOUNTING AND I'LL GET WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS WHO WILL BE UTILIZING THAT AND SO STAFF TRAINING WILL BE SCHEDULED SOON AND ALSO ANY OF YOU WHO RECEIVED ACCESS TO MUNIS YOU WANT THE TRAINING ON THAT AND HOW TO LOOK UP ACCOUNTS AND SUCH LET ME KNOW AND WE CAN SCHEDULE SOMETHING AT YOUR CONVENIENCE EITHER A TEAM MEETING OR IN PERSON.

I'LL BE GLAD TO SHOW YOU HOW TO DO ALL THAT AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS CHRISTMAS? THANK YOU, FABRIC GO GOOD. SO THANKS FOR THE FIRST OF ALL I LOVE THAT YOU'RE REDUCING THE CHARITABLE AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER I'M LIKE 26,000 WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? SO THAT'S A GREAT BONUS AND SOME IT'S ALMOST 25% AND THE TRAINING APPRECIATE THAT SEVERAL OF US FOR THE PUBLIC WE'VE ASKED FOR READ ACCESS TO MUNIS SO THAT WE COULD WATCH OUR MONIES BEING SPENT AND WHAT'S HAPPENING I'M LOOKING ON COUNTY WEB PAGE IN THE INTERIM REPORTS. THE LAST ONE WE HAD UP THERE IS FIVE 3123 SO SOMEBODY COULD UPDATE THAT AND WILL THIS BE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE VERSUS SOMEBODY HAVING TO READ TO US DRONE ON TO NOT YES I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT SO EMAILED BRENNER THE LATEST ONE WITH A TRANSPARENCY LINK AND SO I WOULD LIKE THAT ONE TO BE ON THE WEBSITE SO YOU CAN CLICK ON THERE'S A LINK TO OUR LAB DATA RIGHT AND THERE'S ALSO A LINK I FAILED TO MENTION OF OUR DIGITAL FOR OUR DIGITAL BUDGET BOOK WHICH WAS JUST PUBLISHED THAT AMAZING I WAS GOING TO BRING UP. THAT'S GREAT INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC. YOU CAN GO IN AND SEE THE CHECKBOOK WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING ON YOU CAN SEE YOUR HEY THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE WHOLE PUBLIC YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF A NUMBER GEEK I LOVE THAT STUFF BUT IT'S REALLY GOOD TRANSPARENCY AS WAS MENTIONED A LITTLE EARLIER EVERYTHING'S UP THERE SO I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT YOU HAVE YEAH. YES. TONY, SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED THAT OUR REVENUES WE ONLY HAD 79.5 COLLECT OKAY WHAT WE SHOULDN'T BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU I'M DOING WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CAUSE OF ALL OF THE TRANSFERS THAT WE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND WE USED OUR FUND BALANCE SO THERE'S MONEY OUR CONTRIBUTED FROM FUND BALANCE REVENUE THAT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY TO RECEIVE BECAUSE WE HAD TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET IN THERE SO WE HAD TO WHEN YOU INCREASE A BUDGET YOU HAVE TO INCREASE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES SO THE INCREASE IN REVENUE IS MONEY THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO GET IS GOING TO EAT INTO THE FUND BALANCE. SO NO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

GOOD. ANOTHER QUESTION. YES.

SO THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS FOR SOLID WASTE AND STORMWATER THAT BE ANOTHER DAY YOU REPORT ON THOSE TO US. ABSOLUTELY YEAH I CAN DO THAT. I DIDN'T MEAN GOOD JUST TO KNOW WHAT HOW THEY'RE DOING. YEAH I COULD DO THAT. I CAN DO A REPORT ON ALL THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. YEAH. AND THE GARAGE OUR INTERNAL SERVICE WHEN I CAN INCLUDE THAT TO THIS CHRISTMAS. YES.

SO OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS IF WE COULD JUST PICK AND AND EACH DO ONE OF THOSE EACH TIME THAT WOULD BE WOULD BE WONDERFUL AND AGAIN THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD.

I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE SHOULD HAVE CONGRATULATE YOU FIRST IS THE FIRST THING BECOMING BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE AS THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SO WE THINK EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING AND WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT.

PLEASE CHRISTMAS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO NUMBER NINE. ARE YOU GOING TO COMMENT ON

[9. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PURCHASE AND PAYMENT OF HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AT BEAUFORT COUNTY’S PORT ROYAL CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF $799,052.]

THAT AGENDA ITEM? NO, NO COMMENTS YOUR COMMENT ON AND ITEM NUMBER NINE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF PURCHASE AND PAYMENT OF HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AT B FOUR COUNTIES PORT ROYAL CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF $799,052 AND MR.

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ATKINSON I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT THIS AND IF THIS THIS PASSES THEN IT WOULD TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR A APPROVAL YES SIR AND AFTERNOON TO EVERYONE A HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUND WAS PROCURED VIA A SOURCE WELL NATIONAL COOPERATIVE CONTRACT BECAUSE THE VALUE OF THE CONTRACT WAS $799,052 APPROVAL SHOULD HAVE FIRST COME BEFORE COUNCIL OR THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO PROCUREMENT SECTION 509D FOR REASONS SET FORTH BELOW IN THE THE A'S NARRATIVE AND IN MY FULL REPORT THAT IS ATTACHED IN THE BACK UP IT DID NOT BE FOR COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES 510 D ALLOWS THE ADMINISTRATOR TO RATIFY CERTAIN ACTS OBLIGATING THE COUNTY IN A CONTRACT ANY PERSON WITHOUT THE REQUISITE I'M SORRY THE ADMINISTRATOR TO RATIFY ACTS OBLIGATING THE COUNTY TO A CONTRACT BY ANY PERSON WITHOUT THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO. ALTHOUGH THE CODE HAS TO THE ADMINISTRATOR THE AUTHORITY TO RATIFY THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT SO THAT THE COUNTY CAN PAY THE INVOICES THE INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR CHOOSES INSTEAD TO BRING MATTER TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND AUTHORIZATION GIVEN AMOUNT OF MONEY INVOLVED AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE THE PLAYGROUND WAS ORIGINALLY ORDERED BY A NEIGHBORING JURISDICTION WHICH CANCELED THE ORDER WHILE THE WAS BEING MANUFACTURED BECAUSE THE SUPPLIER HAD THE EQUIPMENT IN ITS INVENTORY.

THE TOTAL PRICE OF THE INSTALLED PLAYGROUND INCLUDES A DISCOUNT OF $95,801 AND WAS AVAILABLE FOR INSTALLATION 18 MONTHS EARLIER THAN PREVIOUSLY INDICATED BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE A YEAR AGO AND WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS FOR THE MANUFACTURING PLAYGROUNDS THERE WAS A BACKLOG IN BEFORE COUNTY'S FISCAL YEAR 23 ANNUAL BUDGET FUNDING WAS ALLOCATED FOR MULTIPLE RECREATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT PROCUREMENTS AND INSTALLATION THROUGHOUT FISCAL YEAR 23. SEVERAL OTHER PLAYGROUND PROCUREMENTS WERE MADE AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY EACH OF THESE PURCHASES AND INSTALLATIONS WERE LESS THAN $150,000 SO THEY WERE APPROVED BY THE ADMINISTRATOR 4.4 SWING CODE SECTION 2-509 WHICH INDICATES THAT THESE INDICATES COUNCIL APPROVED APPROVAL IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THOSE BASED ON THEIR DOLLAR AMOUNT DUE TO CONFUSION RESULTING FROM MULTIPLE PLAYGROUNDS BEING INSTALLED OR PURCHASED USING THE SOURCE WELL NATIONAL COOPERATIVE CONTRACT FOR MULTIPLE SITES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY SIMULTANEOUSLY AND A PROCEDURAL SEQUENCING ERROR BY STAFF. THE HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUND WAS DELIVERED AND ASSEMBLED PRIOR TO GOING TO COUNCIL APPROVAL APPROVING THE CONTRACT ALTHOUGH. THE ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUND HAS BEEN DELIVERED AND ASSEMBLED ON SITE AT THE PORT ROYAL CENTER. NO FUNDS HAVE BEEN DISBURSED FOR THIS AND INVOICES ARE ON HOLD AND THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE TO IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION FIVE OR 2-5 TEN E I THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT RECREATION HAS PREPARED WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE CODE SECTION ATTACHED. THE CODE SECTION IS IN THE BACK UP THE INVOICES FOR THE PLAYGROUND ARE IN THE BACK UP AND THE FULL REPORT AS REQUIRED BY OUR ORDINANCE IS IN THE BACK OF STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE AND PAYMENT OF THE HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT INVOICES AND THE PLAYGROUND AT PORT ROYAL CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF $799,052 I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND ADMINISTRATION I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR JOHN. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT ON THIS IT WAS A COMPLETELY UNFORCED BY STAFF. IT IS INEXCUSABLE IT WAS NOT NECESSARY ALTHOUGH AFTER FULLY THE CONTENT AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES I THINK IT WAS INTENDED TO BE A GOOD THING TO EXPEDITE THE INSTALLATION OF A PLAYGROUND AT A DISCOUNT THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED IN THE BUDGET BUT IN INSTANCES LIKE THIS GOOD INTENTIONS DON'T MATTER. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL PLAY BY THE RULES.

WE FOLLOW THE RULES AND LIKE I SAID WE'RE TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY AND ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGHOUT STAFF WILL IS TOP PRIORITY AND WE WERE TAKING EVERY ACTION TO MAKE SURE THAT

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WE DO THAT. I WILL BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH MY ENTIRE REPORT IF YOU WOULD LIKE. I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S ALREADY READ IT BUT WITHOUT I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR GUIDANCE ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS? MR. ATKINSON I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

THIS EQUIPMENT WAS PUT INTO PORT ROYAL. RIGHT BUT WE HAVEN'T PAID THE INVOICE CORRECT SO CAN WE ASK THEM TO COME BACK AND UP THE EQUIPMENT AND TAKE IT OUT IF YOU SO DESIRE? OKAY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THE TAXPAYERS FOOT THIS I JUST DON'T SO ADD A LITTLE COVERING TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. ONE, THE MONEY WAS APPROPRIATED FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PLAYGROUNDS TO INCLUDE AN ACCESSIBLE IT WAS PUT AT THIS LOCATION BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING A HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE BATHROOM RIGHT NEXT TO AND WE'VE DONE CONSIDERABLE RENOVATION TO THE PORT ROYAL CENTER. SO IN FISCAL YEARS 23 BUDGET THERE WAS MONEY FOR THESE CAPITALS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING THE PLAYGROUND.

THERE WAS A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN OCTOBER THAT INCREASED THE AMOUNT TO BE SPENT AND THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE OF $500,000 IN A MARCH BUDGET AMENDMENT WHERE THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT FORWARD FOR APPROVAL THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THE BUDGET NOT THE CONTRACT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD AND THEN AS PART OF MASTER PLAN PRESENTATION IN JULY IT WAS THAT WE WERE WORKING ON GETTING THIS INSTALLED. SO I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND I SHARE YOUR FRUSTRATION ON THIS LIKE I SAID BEFORE IT WAS A COMPLETELY UNFORCED HOWEVER IT SADDENS ME THAT AN ERROR LIKE THIS OVERSHADOWS WHAT A WONDERFUL NEEDED THIS IS. I WILL GO ALL THE WAY BACK HERE MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I SERVED ON THE PARKS AND WATER SERVICES BOARD BACK IN THE LATE NINETIES AND I REMEMBER VIVIDLY HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE LACK OF INCLUSIVE FACILITIES ALL WAY BACK 2526 YEARS AGO AND THIS IS THE FIRST INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND THAT COUNTY IS INSTALLING. SO LIKE I SAY I'M REALLY I'M UPSET AND I'M SAD. SUCH A WONDERFUL PROJECT IS IS HAS THIS TO DEAL WITH IT WAS COMPLETELY UNFORCED ERROR AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE SO I'D LIKE TO ASK ME HOW DO YOU KNOW DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS EQUIPMENT OR I KNEW THE SAME TIME WE ALL DID OKAY.

YEAH RIGHT. IT'S NEVER GOOD. SO I'M GLAD YOU POINTED WHICH WAS NOT IN THE WRITTEN PART THAT I SAW THIS SO EVERYONE KNOWS A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR CAN APPROVE EXPENDITURES UP TO $150,000 AS LONG AS THEY'RE BUDGETED.

YES, CORRECT. SO THIS WAS BUDGETED TO ANSWER MRS. BROWN'S COMMENT IT IS A GOOD THING I GET THAT I WOULD NEVER PRESUME TO SEND IT BACK. I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD HANG US ALL IN EFFIGY BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY SEEN IT THERE. HOWEVER AT A TIME WHEN THIS COUNCIL AND THIS GOVERNMENT IS UNDER SCRUTINY FOR PROCUREMENT CONTRACTS, PURCHASE ORDERS, BIDS I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UNFORCED ERROR BUT THE PROCESS WAS NOT FOLLOWED. THE PERSON THE DIRECTOR IS A VETERAN EMPLOYEE KNOWS THE PROCUREMENT SO I KNOW IT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED BUT THAT JUST UNACCEPTABLE THAT IT DID OCCUR AND THE PERSON NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND NO I DON'T WANT TO SEND THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT BACK AND WE SHOULD APPROVE IT BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE UNDER SCRUTINY FOR SO THIS IS WAY UNACCEPTABLE IN MY POINT OF VIEW.

UNDERSTOOD. I GOT TWO QUESTIONS. SORRY MR. ATKINSON.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE CANNOT EVER TALK ABOUT PERSONNEL ISSUES HERE BUT WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? AND THEN IT'S MAINLY SOMETHING FROM MR. ROBERTS NOW THAT WHAT WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT WE CAN HELP TO NOT HAVE THIS HAPPEN AGAIN, THIS EDUCATION OR WHETHER IT IS SOMETHING AGAIN WHAT WHAT IS WHAT IS SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS OR IDEAS OR OR PLAN MOVING FORWARD TO NOT ONLY YOUR DEPARTMENT BUT OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE THE SAME ISSUES FOR A WHILE I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE MY SENTIMENT ON THAT AND IF JOHN WANTS TO MAKE COMMENT OBVIOUSLY HE'S CERTAINLY CAPABLE OF DOING THAT .

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS ACROSS THE BOARD, YOU KNOW I DEAL WITH MORE THAN 200 EMPLOYEES UNDER MY CARE. MISTAKES HAPPEN WHEN WHEN MISTAKES HAPPEN MY PERSONAL APPROACH IS I WANT TO KNOW THE CONTEXT, WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING AROUND IT.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT LED UP TO IT AND WHAT THE FALLOUT FROM THOSE ARE.

RIGHT? WHAT IS THE SEVERITY? IT IT IS IT'S A LOT OF MONEY

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RIGHT WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS IT'S A HANDICAP PLAYGROUND I THINK STAFF WAS WILLING AND WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO IN CAPITALIZING THIS THIS THING CAME WE WERE EXPECTING AN 18 MONTH LEAD TIME IN PERHAPS ORDERING IT IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR IT CAME UP THAT IT WAS AVAILABLE AND I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO CAPITALIZE AGAIN, I'M NOT MAKING EXCUSES FOR STAFF.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT ANY OF THIS WAS JUSTIFIED BECAUSE THE ACTIONS NOT BUT WHEN I LOOK AT IT I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING SINISTER ABOUT THIS. I THINK THAT THEY WERE TRULY TRYING TO GET SOMETHING THAT WAS NEEDED DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER AND THEY A STEP I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED THE MONEY FOR THIS IT WAS BID OUT AND THEN WE GOT ALMOST $100,000. WE THE COUNTY GOT ALMOST $100,000 DISCOUNT ON TOP OF IT AND THEN WE GOT A PLAYGROUND 18 MONTHS IN ADVANCE OF WHEN WE OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT . AND IN THAT TIME THE PRICE COULD COULD HAVE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GONE UP. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS HOW DO YOU PREVENT IT? EDUCATION, RIGHT? YOU GO BACK YOU YOU STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE AND YOU MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND IT UNDERSTANDS THIS. I THINK THEY WERE THERE WAS AN INTENTION BASED ON THE INFORMATION I'VE RECEIVED TO DO THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY THE PLAYGROUND I GUESS FORTUNATELY THE PLAYGROUND ALREADY MANUFACTURED IT COMES IN BOXES, THEY SHOW UP. IT'S NOT LIKE A BUILDING, RIGHT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF , YOU KNOW, BUILDING A BUILDING WITH THESE THINGS. YOU BOLT THEM TOGETHER, THEY GO IN VERY QUICKLY AND IT'S A SITUATION WHERE THEY PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE IT'S NOT EXCUSABLE. IT IS NOT OKAY BUT WHEN YOU HAVE INSTANCES LIKE THIS I THINK IT BEARS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING SINISTER OR ILLEGAL OR SELF-SERVING THAT ON AND YOU HAVE TO VIEW THOSE IN THE OUTCOMES, THE RECOURSE AND OUR ACTIONS DIFFERENTLY. SO YES, EDUCATION I CAN'T GET INTO THE THE THE DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE ALL I CAN SAY IS WE'RE TAKING IT SERIOUS AND APPROPRIATE ACTION HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE PLACE GOOD IN SECOND PART I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED MOST OF IT IN JUST YOUR YOUR YOUR ANSWER YOU JUST GAVE IS SO WAS AS FAR AS WE KNOW AGAIN IN YOUR INTERPRETATION AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SEEN THE MONEY WAS THERE IT'S A GOOD THING THAT THE PLAYGROUND IN HOWEVER THERE WAS NEVER AN APPEAL ISSUED AND IT WAS NEVER APPROVED BY BY COUNSEL. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I'M HEARING THAT IS BEST AND OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE DO WANT TO FOLLOW OUR PROCUREMENT PROCUREMENT CODE AND GOING BACK AND AT EVERYTHING I AS WELL DO NOT THINK THAT I MEAN NO BENEFITED FINANCIALLY FROM THIS. IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE TO TO BENEFIT ANYBODY FINANCIALLY BUT BUT AGAIN IT IS THINGS THAT WE JUST NEED TO FOLLOW OUR OWN CODE ON EVERYTHING. SO IS THAT SUMMARIZING YOU KNOW THINGS IT DOES AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IN MY REPORT THAT THOSE WHO MADE THE MISTAKE DISCOVERED IT AND AS SOON AS THEY DID THEY BROUGHT IT FORWARD AND.

THEY WERE VERY REMORSEFUL OVER IT AND. THEY BROUGHT IT FORWARD.

NOBODY JUST FOUND OUT THAT IT HAPPENED IN THE COURSE OF PROCESSING PAPERWORK AS WE NORMALLY DO, IT WAS DISCOVERED IMMEDIATELY THAT OH THIS IS THIS THIS HAPPENED AND THIS IS A BIG DEAL. THEY IMMEDIATELY PURCHASING INFORMED ADMINISTRATION AND ASKED WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR MISSTEP WAS OUR GOOD.

YEP ONE OTHER COMMENT AND THAT IS THE PORT ROYAL CENTER ONE IS LOCATED ON COUNTY PROPERTY.

YES. A SENIOR AND NEAR BALL FIELD WHICH IS ALL COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION. YES MA'AM. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF PAUL. EVERYONE WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS ABSOLUTELY NOT.

JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. YES. ATKINSON IS SOURCE NATIONAL COOPERATIVE VENDOR IS THAT A SOLE SOURCE VENDOR FOR KIND OF EQUIPMENT BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T GO OUT FOR BID SO OUR VENDOR IS ACTUALLY OUR OUR SON CHURCH.

ALL RIGHT. THE IF YOU THINK IN TERMS AND I'M PROBABLY GOING TO MESS THIS UP SOME DAVE MIGHT HAVE TO COME HELP ME BUT THE SOURCE WELL IS VERY SIMILAR TO LIKE STATE CONTRACT WHERE THINGS ARE BID OUT IN GROUP BUT THIS IS DONE NATIONALLY AND IS SPONSORED BY AN ENTITY WHETHER IT'S A STATE OR SOME OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AND THEN BECAUSE IT'S BID OUT COMPETITIVELY WE CAN USE THAT. YES BUT THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR WE'VE USED THEM ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OCCASIONS AND TO MATCH PLAYGROUNDS.

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YES, MR.. YES, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE SPECIFIC SO THIS CONTRACT IS $21,000 FOR SHIPPING. IS THAT NORMAL FOR SOMETHING THIS SIZE THAT SEEMS A BIT EXUBERANT? IT IS.

I'LL I'LL TELL YOU WHY THIS IS MULTIPLE TRACTOR TRAILERS. THIS IS A LARGE FACILITY PLAYGROUND FACILITY BECAUSE IT IS INCLUSIVE OR HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE.

IT NOT ONLY INCLUDES THE SUPERSTRUCTURE IN THE SHADE BUT ALSO INCLUDES THE GROUND COVER ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE END THIS IS NOT JUST FOR CHILDREN NEED AN INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND THIS COULD BE ANYONE MOBILITY ISSUES IF A GRANDPARENT HAS MOBILITY AND THEY WANT TO TAKE THEIR OTHERWISE MOBILE GRANDCHILD TO PLAY THIS ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES PARTS OF THIS THING IT'S VERY LARGE AS INDICATED BY THE THE PRICE TAG BUT YEAH IT'S IT'S MULTIPLE TRACTOR TRAILERS IT'S A VERY LARGE PIECE OF SET UP ONE OF THE I SAW THAT AND A LITTLE BIT STICKER SHOCK WHEN I SAW THAT YEAH IT INVOLVES BRINGING OUT DIRT GRADING THINGS PUTTING MATS THERE THERE'S A LOT TO THERE ARE A LOT OF PIECES AND PARTS TO SHIPPING. MR. PRESIDENT.

YES I SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. IT'S A LESSON LEARNED AFTER READING WHAT YOU SAID. IT STRIKES ME THAT OKAY, WE HAD A PLAN.

THIS WAS A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS WORTH OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY OF WHICH THIS WAS A ONE COMPONENT PART. SEVERAL OF THOSE WERE DONE BY PURCHASE ORDER BECAUSE THEY WERE A LESSER AMOUNT. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT WE MAY WANT TO IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE'RE DOING THINGS LIKE THIS IS WE HAVE A MASTER ORDER THAT ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING AT THAT END KNOWING FULL WELL THAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS NATIONAL COOPERATIVE. WE WOULD NOT BE IN THE SITUATION WE'RE IN NOW, SIR.

BUT OUR QUESTIONS WE ASK THIS A COMMENT I'VE HEARD SOME FROM SOME PEOPLE IN PORT ROYAL THEY SAID THEY DON'T LIKE THAT PART BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE AN AMUSEMENT PARK.

I'VE BEEN OUT THERE LOOKING AT IT. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I LIKE IT. YOU DO? I DO.

AND THE SENIOR CENTER IS OF OUR MORE ACTIVE SENIOR CENTERS. IT'S ALSO BALLFIELDS IN THE POOR. QUESTION MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, GO AHEAD, CHUCK.

AS A FOLLOW UP TO ALL OF THIS, THERE WILL SOME DISCUSSION AND ACCOUNTABILITY NO DOUBT THE ACTIONS THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING. THIS WILL BE GOING TO COUNCIL NEXT MONDAY.

IS THAT RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN? THAT'S CORRECT. THE 25TH I THINK IS WILL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXECUTIVE SESSION GET SOME OF THAT INFORMATION BEFORE THIS COMES FULL COUNCIL AND EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF ACTIONS ARE BEING UNDERTAKEN IN THAT REGARD? I'LL DEFER TO THE COUNTY AND THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ON THAT, SIR.

YES, SIR. DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION WE CAN HAVE SOME LIMITED DISCUSSIONS UP ABOUT PERSONNEL ACTIONS. OKAY. I CAN SO WE COULD MAKE A MOTION TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION RIGHT NOW TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION MYSELF. DO IT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS. MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, MR. DAWSON.

GOOD TO. TO THE TO THE QUESTION OF GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION I I UNDERSTAND TARP'S CONCERN BUT THINK IT WOULD BE ILL ADVISED BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE AGAIN TO HAVE THE OTHER CAST MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT HERE BRING THEM UP TO SPEED AS TO WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE FIRST EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO I THINK IF WE WAIT UNTIL OUR COUNCIL MEETING AND WE ALL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ONE TIME THEN I THINK THAT WILL SUFFICE . MR. ROSS, I'M GLAD YOU SPOKE UP. I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THE THE PERSONNEL ISSUES WE'RE TALKING SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY ISSUE ON WHETHER WE GO AHEAD AND DECIDE TO PASS THIS OR NOT.

SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION I'D PROBABLY ASK A MOTION EITHER TO MOVE FORWARD OR TO DENY THE REQUEST. I'LL SECOND THAT. THERE WAS A SECOND.

WAS THAT MR. DAWSON YEAH, I THINK SO. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IS MORE DISCUSSION. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY NO TO THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT. ALL THE TOWN COUNCILMEN WAS

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LIKE IT THEY WERE FOR A TOWN COUNCIL OR A COURTROOM SO THEY KNEW ABOUT IT.

THEY WERE BRIEFED ON IT. SO DO LOCAL IS WHAT'S GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL THAT I THINK WE HAVE ONE OBJECTION MOST AS YOU RECALL JUST TO MAKE SURE WHAT'S THE MOTION TO MOVE TO COUNCIL COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL COUNCILMEMBER MCCALLUM. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HOWARD. YES. COUNCILMEMBER BROWN.

NO COUNCIL MEMBER PASSING IT? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BARTHOLOMEW. YES.

VICE CHAIR CABINET YES. AND CHAIRMAN LAWSON. MARK LAWSON YES.

SO THIS WILL BE MOVED THEN TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING APPROVAL.

[10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT A GRANT FOR PROJECT COMIDA]

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. JACKSON THANK YOU, ROBINSON.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON THEN AND THAT WOULD BE NUMBER TEN APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT A GRANT FOR PROJECT COOMERA AND MR. MUNSON.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT FOR US ON YES. I'VE GOT A DOWNLOAD TOOL HERE AS WELL BECAUSE WHAT THIS TO DO WITH OUR ARRANGEMENT WHERE THE COUNTY HAS THE OFFICIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS ONE THAT DEALS DIRECTLY WITH THE BUSINESSES SO THEY HAVE OF THE BUSINESS ACHIEVE AND GRANT OF $50,000 THE NAME PROJECT COMMITTEE IS YOU KNOW THEY JUST COME UP WITH INTERESTING NAMES THIS ONE ACTUALLY APPLIES BUT BECAUSE IT'S SO WE WOULD BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE OR LESS YOU'D LIKE TO SAY JOHN ABOUT THE PROJECTS YOU CAN AND CAN'T SAY AT THIS POINT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY OKAY BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS THE COUNTY VOTE TO ACCEPT THESE FUNDS AT POINT JOHN AND CHARLIE WILL WORK WITH THE COMPANY TO SHOW PROOF OF THEIR INVESTMENT FOR THIS PROJECT IS SIZABLE IT'S $8.1 MILLION AND 40 NEW JOBS AND IT'S TO HELP THEM WITH SOME OF THEIR UPFRONT HARD COSTS IN THE EXPANSION THE NEW FACILITY. SO THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT HARD PROOF THAT THEY SPENT MONEY IN ORDER TO BE REIMBURSED AND THEN WE WILL THE MONEY FROM THE STATE AND PASS IT THROUGH TO THEM BUT THOSE MUST BE WITH A QUESTION.

YES, GO AHEAD, MR. MCCALLUM HANK JOHN, IS YOUR ASSUMPTION HERE THAT EVERYONE WHO IS SITTING ON THE DELIBERATIVE BODY TODAY IS FAMILIAR WITH PROJECT COMMUTER? WILL YOU BE TELLING US ABOUT IT? IT'S REALLY MR. O'TOOLE, THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD. OH, NICE TO BE WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN VICE CHAIR CHAIRMAN A LOT OF CHAIRMAN OF YOUR THE REALLY THE QUESTION IS IS THAT IS THE COUNTY CONTENT OR HAPPY TO ACCEPT THESE FUNDS THAT ARE FLOW THROUGH SO AG WANTS TO GIVE IN TO THE PARTICULAR PROJECT IN THIS CASE A PROJECT COMMITTEE AND IT'S SPELLED OUT IN THE AGENDA PACKET IS THE SEARCH GROUP AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO A FOOD PROCESSING THEY WOULD USE SOUTH CAROLINA AGRICULTURAL PROJECT SO THAT'S THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM A GRANT THEY HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING TO FIND A LOCATION TO DO $8 MILLION PROJECT THAT WOULD EMPLOY 4040 PEOPLE AVERAGE COMPENSATION OVER $66,000 BUT THE QUESTION TO YOU IS ARE YOU COMFORTABLE EVERY OTHER COUNTY IN SOUTH CAROLINA ACCEPTS THESE FUNDS AND THEN FLOWS THEM TO THE TAXPAYER. THE INVESTOR WHO IS THE RECIPIENT OF THEM SO I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT OF IT, JOHN.

MY QUESTION WAS WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO BUTCHERING FOOD PROCESSING AND PREPARED MEALS IS THE PROJECT SORRY I MISSED THAT.

WELL THEY'RE FOR THEIR OPERATION AND THE SHIRT WITH THE FOR THEIR RESTAURANTS LOCALLY THE THE NUMBERS CHANGE BUT I BELIEVE CORRECT ME AND IS BETTER THAN 17 RESTAURANTS IN THE REGION BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A PLACE RIGHT NOW ON HILTON HEAD THAT DISTRIBUTES MEALS AS WELL AND AND ONE SILVER LINING TO THIS IS IS THAT IN TERMS OF FOOD SECURITY THEY WOULD BE PARTICIPATING WITH DIFFERENT PROVIDERS THAT PROVIDE MEALS PEOPLE AS WELL MEALS ON WHEELS PERHAPS. YEAH, BUT OKAY. NO, NO.

LET ME GET THE TAKE ANOTHER SHOT AT IT. I HATE TO BE DIFFICULT IF I'M MISSING THE POINT. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF GOING TO BE PUTTING A PROCESSING PLAN TO DISTRIBUTE TO OTHER VENDORS OR ONLY INTERNAL IT WOULD BE LARGELY INTERNAL BUT IT WOULD

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EXTERNAL TO THEIR OPERATIONS AS WELL. WHAT THEY WOULD THEY WOULD BE DOING THINGS FOR THEIR OWN BUSINESS AS WELL AS FOR SALES DIRECTLY DIRECT SALES.

RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND JOHN, AT SOME POINT YOU BE ABLE TO DIVULGE EXACTLY WHERE THIS FACILITY GOING TO GO. YES.

YEAH. AND THERE THERE PROBABLY THERE'S PROBABLY TO BE ANOTHER ITERATION OF THIS THIS QUESTION WAS TEED UP BECAUSE. AG WAS READY TO ISSUE THE FUNDS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE RELEASING THEM.

BUT THE QUESTION IS IS THE COUNTY COMFORTABLE BEING THE FIDUCIARY AGENT WHEN THE FUNDS ARE DISTRIBUTED YET MORE WILL COME UPON IT AS THEY DECIDE IN ULTIMATE LOCATION WHICH THINK THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF LEGAL BACKGROUND CONTRACTED ALL THOSE THINGS SO IN OUR IN OUR BACKUP INFORMATION SO AT THIS POINT LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR US TO AGREE TO TO BE THE FIDUCIARY OF THIS AND ACCEPT THE SOLUTION IN THE BAHAMAS BROWN IS THE SECOND AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION I MEAN IT'S THOUSAND DOLLARS AND GIVING HIM AN $8.1 MILLION INVESTMENT IT'S LIKE OKAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS SAME NO OBJECTION. THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND LET'S THEN MOVE

[11. DISCUSSION OF DEVELOPING SITES FOR DIVERSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY]

ON TO NUMBER 11 AND THAT IS DISCUSSION OF DEVELOPING SITES FOR DIVERSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY . MR. HANK, YOU'RE UP AGAIN.

INTRODUCE MY BUDDY JOHN O'TOOLE AGAIN. MR. O'TOOLE THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANKS AGAIN FOR HAVING ME HERE AND I IT'S NICE TO HEAR HANK REFER TO ME AS HIS BUDDY. I WILL SAY THROUGH IT ALL, HANK HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL WITH THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I HAVE COPIES OF IT'S A CONFIDENTIAL REPORT THAT WE PUT OUT ON PRODUCT AND WE UPDATE IT ON AN ONGOING BASIS BECAUSE REAL ESTATE CHANGES PROJECTS COME OFF THE MARKET ARE ON THE MARKET, COME OFF THE MARKET BUT IN IT AND PREVIOUSLY I'VE PROVIDED COPIES OF PORTIONS OF THIS BUT ESSENTIALLY YOU KNOW SOUTH CAROLINA IS LIKE THE STATE FOR IN-MIGRATION SO WE REMAIN A TARGET FOR FOREIGN INVESTORS WHEN I DISCUSS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS I SHOULD OPEN UP MY BOOK AND GET MY NOTES OUT BUT WE HAVE HAD GOOD SUCCESS WE'RE JUST CLOSING IN ON THE END OF OUR SIX YEAR WE'VE SEEN RENDERED $41 MILLION INVESTED. WE HAVE ABOUT $100 MILLION IN OUR PIPELINE. WHAT THIS REPRESENTS TO RESIDENTS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY IS 665 EITHER NEW JOBS OR WE RETAIN JOBS. THE COUNTY AVERAGING 4040 5.40 $5,900 A YEAR ESSENTIALLY $76.4 MILLION IN PAYROLL. AND ACCORDING TO CLEMSON OVER A TO SEVEN YEAR PERIOD A $4 BILLION IMPACT. SO OUR RESULTS ARE OUR OUR OUR OUR THEIR THEY CAN BE MEASURED WHEN I TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF ALWAYS AND YOU'LL HEAR FROM LATER I BELIEVE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION YOU KNOW LOOK AT IT AS A BALANCE WHEEL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS JUST ONE SPOKE ON IT THE TOP SPOKE IS THE ENVIRONMENT SO MUCH OF THE REVENUE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLY IN IN THIS MEETING HAS TO DO WITH PEOPLE'S LOVE OF THE ENVIRONMENT, LOVE OF OUR REGION, EDUCATION WHICH COUNTIES CONTINUE TO INVEST IN IS A IS THE NEXT SERIOUS HOPE IN TERMS OF THE BALANCE WILL BEAUFORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES IN A DIGNIFIED WAY IS SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL PASSIONATELY ABOUT OUR WORKFORCE AND TCL USCCB AND THE K TO 12 PROGRAM ARE KIND OF FUELING PIPELINE AT TALENT HOUSING AND THEN TRANSPORTATION . AND THE REASON I MENTION THIS TODAY IS IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WITH THE ADVENT OF THE GREEN PENNY, THE SUCCESS OF THAT THERE THERE'S JUST ANOTHER ON REAL ESTATE AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S A BAD PULL. I THAT'S SORT OF THE MAGNET THAT BRINGS PEOPLE TO OUR REACH AND LOVE OF THE ENVIRONMENT.

BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT HOUSING IS TRYING TO DO WHAT RETAIL'S TRYING TO DO AND I

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THINK WE'RE AT AN POINT A POINT WHERE BEAUFORT COUNTY SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT AND WE HAVE SERIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT CHUNKS OF REAL ESTATE COULD BE PRESERVED FOR THIS ECONOMY? WHEN I SPOKE TO THIS GROUP AT YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SECTION AND I THINK WE CAME OUT OF LUNCH AND JOE AND A CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN LARRY AND SAID WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT PRODUCT. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DELIVER ON IT? SO WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS OUR APPROACH TO WHERE PRODUCTS SHOULD GO IS THAT I LOOK AT IT AS THE NEXUS OF INFRASTRUCTURE TRANSPORTATION, COMMUNICATIONS ,ZONING AND OBVIOUSLY THE ELECTRIC AND GAS AND AND THEN WHERE THE WHERE IT FITS WELL WITH ZONING AND SO WE HAVE SOME 1500 ACRES THAT WE THINK ARE STAGES WHERE IF WE DON'T MOVE ON THEM QUICKLY AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO MASTER PLAN THESE AND AND DO THE DUE DILIGENCE ONE THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE ARE NO NEAR AND DEAR TO COUNCILMAN DAWSON 200 ACRES OF THAT IS THE PICO ITSELF BUT WE HAVE SOME OTHER SITES AS WELL AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL OR THE OPPORTUNITY OF PASS AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE RECENT UPDATE LAST TUESDAY I WAS AT THE CITY OF BEAUFORT AND COUNCIL MEETING AND A $29 MILLION PROJECT EXECUTED EXECUTED ITS OPTION TO BUY A LOT IN THE COMMERCE PARK AND A $34 MILLION PARCEL HAD A $34 MILLION PROJECT, HAD A FIRST READING ON ITS PLANS TO PURCHASE A PARCEL OUT THERE. SO WITH OUR SUCCESS IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK FORWARD AND JUST SO I SOUND SLIGHTLY SMARTER THAN I AM I WILL SHARE A QUOTE WHICH MY YOUNG SON SHARED WITH ME BUT HE SAYS IT'S NOT HIS HE IT'S A GREEK PROVERB .

BUT SOCIETY GROWS GREAT WHEN OLD MEN PLANT TREES WHO SHADE THEY KNOW THEY WILL NEVER SIT IN AND SO IT IS THAT POINT IN TIME I THINK CAN DO FOR HISTORY WHERE WE TAKE PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT FOR MEANINGFUL JOBS SERIES THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND I THINK THE DETAIL OF THE PROPERTIES WILL BE RECOMMENDING GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING APPROACH BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL FRIENDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SITES WE PICK AND AND THIS IS ME BRAGGING A LITTLE BUT IN YEARS WE'VE DONE SOME 60 PROJECTS AND WE'VE NOT OUT OF STEP WITH THE RESIDENTS IN AN AREA ON ONE PROJECT.

NOW TOMORROW NIGHT I HAVE A PROJECT ON HILTON HEAD THAT COULD BE DIFFERENCE BUT WE LIKE TO THINK THAT WE ADD TO THE POINTS BEING RAISED EARLIER THAT WE ARE VERY TRANSPARENT.

WE TRY KEEP THE PUBLIC INFORMED. IN PARTICULAR THIS PROJECT A $23 MILLION PROJECT LOOKING AT A HILTON HEAD ADJACENT TO HILTON HEAD AIRPORT WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT THERE SOME FOUR YEARS AGO SO WE TRY TO KEEP EVERYONE READ IN AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF OUR SUCCESS HERE. MR. O'TOOLE OBVIOUSLY DID NOT GIVE YOU PROPER INTRODUCTION OF EVERYONE. WE JUST ASSUME EVERYONE KNOWS WHO YOU ARE. YOU'RE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SO THANK YOU FOR COMING. NOW THIS WAS JUST AN AGENDA ITEM FOR DISCUSSION SO THERE'S NO ACTION OUT OF THIS. BUT WHAT DID YOU WANT TO RECEIVE FROM US? WE REALLY NEED TO PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD OR AT LEAST HAVE A CONVERSATION. OBVIOUSLY THE BIKO WILL BE ONE OF THE ONES WE'RE WAITING AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH OUT IN THE OPEN. WE'RE WAITING FOR ANDY TO GIVE US SOME VOLUNTARY CLEAN UP CONTRACTS ON THE TWO PARCELS OUT THERE AND WE HAVE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN DOING THINGS OUT THERE IF IF IF NOT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I BELIEVE THE CLEAN OF THE BIG GO SHOULD BE PURSUED FOR AND FOR THE PURPOSES OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE IF THEY HAVE A MEANINGFUL REUSE THAT COULD BE A TO THAT DISTRICT. BUT YOU KNOW AS A PRETTY SOAKER WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME 1500 ACRES YOU KNOW ON BUFFET FOR THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT WITH PROBABLY A PRICE OF $18.5 MILLION. BUT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM ON A PARCEL BIPARTISAN BASIS AND I THINK WE'LL START THAT CONVERSATION TODAY LATER ON IN THE AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE FOR MR. O'TOOLE BUT MR. O'TOOLE THANK YOU.

[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO RENEW MEMBERSHIP WITH THE SOUTHERN CAROLINA REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT ALLIANCE]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE ON THE AGENDA AGAIN.

COME HERE IN A SECOND. BUT WE GO BACK TO MR. MUNSON AND THIS IS NUMBER 12 ON OUR AGENDA RECOMMEND TO RENEW MEMBERSHIP WITH THE SOUTHERN CAROLINA REGIONAL ALLIANCE AND

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FISCAL IMPACT FUNDS FOR COME FROM A GENERAL FUND ACCOUNT 495,000 IS BUDGETED FOR THE THIS FOR THE IN THIS ACCOUNT UNDER 20,000 IS FOR THE SOUTHERN CAROLINA 375,000 IS FOR THE COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. ALL RIGHT, SIR, I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND. THESE FUNDS ARE ALREADY BUDGETED BUT IT'S TIME TO RENEW OUR CONTRACT WITH SOUTHERN CAROLINA DEVELOPMENT ALLIANCE. SO I'VE GOTTEN THINGS LIKE HERE I'LL BRING INTO SECOND TO GIVE YOU ESPECIALLY NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS A FULL BACKGROUND OF WHAT THEY DO WE DO JOHN DOES AND HOW WE ALL FIT TOGETHER. THIS RELATIONSHIP I BELIEVE STARTED IN 2012 AND THE MOST RECENT CONTRACT WAS SIGNED IN 17 WHICH WAS ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET THAT WAS FOR TWO THREE YEAR TERMS THIS TIME TO HAVE THE RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT NO FEE INCREASE BUT IT'S FOR A FIVE YEAR TERM AND I'LL HAVE HIM TELL YOU BUT I WOULD JUST KIND OF FROM MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE I'VE SEEN IT FROM THE REGION.

I THINK THAT BETWEEN THE COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND REGIONAL ALLIANCE WE'RE WORKING BETTER TODAY THAN WE EVER HAVE TOGETHER.

WE'RE HAVING MEETINGS REGULARLY WITH ADMINISTRATORS AND COUNCIL CHAIRS REGIONALLY TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON THINGS AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD STAFF RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO CONTINUE THE RELATIONSHIP OF TURNED OVER TO DENNY BLACK WHO IS THE CEO SO THE TITLE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL DENNY BLACK THANK YOU. HEY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME. I DID BRING MATERIALS I'M NOT GOING TO PASS THOSE OUT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ON TIME BUT I WILL LABEL WE HAVE FOR THE PAST YEARS WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A STRATEGIC PLAN WHICH MOST OF YOU HAVE AND OUR INTENTION IS TO FOLLOW THIS STRATEGIC PLAN. WE CAN GO INTO GREAT DETAIL AT ANY TIME YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT . BUT I DO WANT TO MENTION THE REASON FOR THE ROLLOVER OF THE CONTRACT. WE DID CHANGE IT TWO YEARS AGO BECAUSE A COUPLE OF COUNTIES US TO CHANGE SOME WORDING IN IT IT IS GENERIC IN THE WORDING ITSELF IT PRETTY MUCH JUST LAYS OUT WHAT OUR AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD DO FOR OUR MEMBER COUNTIES AND WE TRIED TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT AND EVERY TIME SOMEONE COMES UP FOR RENEWAL WE JUST FORMED AND WE ASKED THE COUNTY TO TO SIGN THIS NEW AGREEMENT. IT GIVES US THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE CHARGING. WE NEGOTIATED THAT INTO 2012 AND THE INTENT WAS TO CHARGE DOLLAR PER POPULATION FOR EACH COUNTY THAT WE PROVIDED SERVICES BUT WE NEGOTIATED WITH BEAUFORT NESS WHILE THE DIFFERENCE AND THE PRICE NOW WE DON'T EXPECT ANY PRICE INCREASE WHATSOEVER THAT IS MONEY THAT GOES INTO DIRECT MARKETING IN PARTICULAR IT ALSO GOES INTO PROJECTS WHEN WE CAN DO THAT IN INFRASTRUCTURE MATCHES AND SO FORTH.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IT'S A FIVE YEAR TERM RATHER THAN A THREE YEAR TERM WITH THE SAME OUT IF A COUNTY IS NOT SATISFIED OF THE ORGANIZATION DOES NOT WANT TO CONTINUE THERE'S AN OUT IN THE CLAUSE THAT WOULD RELEASE AFTER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IT'S OF OF THE SEVEN COUNTIES WE DO EVERYTHING FOR FIVE OF THE COUNTIES MEANING WE PROVIDE PERSONNEL ETC. WE DO NOT IN BEAUFORT CASE OBVIOUSLY AND WE HAVE A GREAT INSIGHT SAID AS JOHN O'TOOLE HAS SAID AND I'M SURE ASHLEY WHO SERVES ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR US AND PAULA WHO'S ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WILL TELL YOU WE MET THIS MORNING WE MEET CONSTANTLY. WE TALK TO EACH OTHER. WE WORK TOGETHER ON OUR PROJECTS AND PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO TAKE BASICALLY ON 95 AND DEVELOP SITES IN ALL OF OUR SOUTHERN COUNTIES AS WELL AS DO SOME INFRASTRUCTURE STUFF THAT IS BADLY NEEDED IN ALL SEVEN COUNTIES AS WELL SO WITH MR. CHAIRMAN ALL I WILL DO IS JUST ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT THAT IS IN YOUR HAND UNDER CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL TAKE THAT TO OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR APPROVAL AT OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE, ANY COMMENTS AND AGAIN THIS WOULD THEN ALSO THEN GO TO FULL COUNCIL. SO WHY IS THERE MOTION THEN TO MOVE THIS FORWARD I WILL THAT MOTION. THANK YOU MR. BROWN. THANK YOU.

THE SECOND ANY MORE DISCUSSION SO YOU KNOW DISCUSSION IS OR ANY OBJECTION SEEING NO OBJECTION THIS WILL THEN MOVE TO FOR COUNTY FOR A VOTE. THANK YOU.

[13. DISCUSSION OF ELECTED OFFICIALS’ COMPENSATION]

THANK YOU FOR COMING APPRECIATE . YOU BEING HERE? YES SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER 13 AND NUMBER 13 IS ALSO A DISCUSSION AND IS DISCUSSION OF ELECTED OFFICIALS COMPENSATION IF AGAIN CALL AND FOR ME THIS MORNING I THINK MISS WARD MS..

WARD IS GOING TO BE LET ME JUST GET TO IN THE FABRIC IS THIS SOMETHING YOU GOING TO LOOK TO

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MOVE FORWARD TO GO AHEAD WITH? YEAH AFTER BRITTANY TALKS SHE'S IN THIS WARD YOU FOR COMING YOU GO AND SHARE MY SCREEN HERE COUNCILMAN MCALLEN CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT YOU CAN SEE MY SCREEN LARRY CAN YOU SEE MR. SCREEN? I CAN SEE IT PERFECTLY.

WANT TO MAKE SURE SO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS STARTED AS A CONVERSATION YEARS AGO SPECIFIC HAD A FINANCE COMMITTEE AUGUST 12, 2019 AT THAT MEETING IT WAS DISCUSSED AND LARRY, MR. MCCULLEN ACTUALLY PROVIDED WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON MY SCREEN AND THESE ARE RECOMMENDED RATES FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS I READ IT IN THE RULES THANK YOU SORRY FOR THOSE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY I WAS PASSING OUT A COPY OF THAT SO THEY COULD SEE IT IN THAT THAT THE COMMITTEE OR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE DISCUSSED. IT WAS DETERMINED BY THE COMMITTEE AT THAT TIME THAT THERE WAS A NEED INCREASE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES AT THE TIME SINCE THEN ELECTED OFFICIALS HAD BEEN RECEIVING THE RECOMMENDED RATES THAT YOU ARE SEEING IN THE VERY RIGHT COLUMN WHERE IT SAYS COUNCILMAN MCMULLEN'S RECOMMENDED SALARIES AT THAT TIME THERE WAS ALSO A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE A CURRENT ORDINANCE OR THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS. LEE ADDRESSES THE BASE SALARY BUT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE SALARY MOVING FORWARD. WHAT WE HEAR DISCUSSED TODAY IS THERE ARE TWO ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT HAD BEEN ELECTED AND THREE ELECTED OFFICIALS SINCE 2019. THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES YOU HAVE TO BE CLEAR ARE GOING TO BE BASED ON THE NUMBERS ON THE SECOND PAGE IN YOUR HANDOUT AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN AS THE ORDINANCE OR ELECTED OFFICIALS THE BASE SALARY WAS NOT AMENDED. IT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT HAD BEEN ELECTED SINCE AUGUST OF 2019 ARE NOT RECEIVING THE SAME SALARY RATES AS OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE EMPLOYEES AT THAT AUGUST ONE, 2019 FINANCE COMMITTEE ARE THERE I'M GOING TO PAUSE FOR A MINUTE AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NO QUESTIONS SO FAR.

YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS TRYING TO ESTABLISH THINK WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE BACK IN 2019 FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS SINCE THAT TIME NOW IN 2023 THERE HAVE BEEN ONLY ONE GRANT AND ANOTHER SALARY ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE RAISED THOUGH SALARIES . ASKED WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED IN 2019 AND WITH REGARD TO ELECTED OFFICIALS THEY ALSO GET A 5% REELECTION BONUS WHEN THEY ARE REELECTED.

SO SOME OF THE ALL OF THEM RECEIVE THAT I BELIEVE SO WHEN YOU SAY THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE THAT WERE ELECTED THESE POSITIONS IN ADDITION TO THE AUDITOR WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE THE CORNER THAT THAT'S A NEW POSITION. I MEAN A NEW A NEW OCCUPANT, RIGHT? YES. YES.

OKAY. SO NICHOLAS AND THE THE COALITION GO TO THE POSITION THE REAL ACTUAL BONUSES GO TO THE PERSON. SO THAT IF THE PERSON LEAVES THE POSITION THEN THE SALARY JUST CONSIST OF WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS IN 2019 PLUS ALL THE COLAS THAT WERE GRANTED OR ANY OTHER SALARY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE GRANTED AND AS A RESULT OF THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DEDUCT ANY OF THE REELECTION BONUSES THAT WERE GRANTED SO THAT YOU HAD AS A CURRENT SALARY WAS WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED IN 2019 PLUS THE COLAS AND SALARY ADJUSTMENTS NOT TO INCLUDE ANY REELECTION BONUSES. IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? I BELIEVE SO, YES. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU.

AND I POINT TO THE CHART I HAVE ON THE SCREEN HERE. I MISSPOKE AND I DO THINK THIS IS AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID WHICH THAT FIRST COLUMN IT SAYS COUNTY BASED PAY ESTABLISHED IN 2015. AND ALTHOUGH THAT NUMBER IS NOT

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CORRECT BECAUSE WE CAME BACK IN 2019. I UNDERSTAND.

BUT YOUR POINT IS IS THAT THE COLA THE ELECTED OFFICIALS RECEIVE COLAS AND THAT THEY ALSO RECEIVE A 5% FROM THE STATE AND THEN ON ADDITION TO THAT THEY RECEIVE A REELECTION . AND SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE.

I THINK THEY GET A 5% REELECTION BONUS. BUT WHAT WHY ARE WE DEALING WITH 20, 15, 16 AND 17? WE HAD ESTABLISHED NEW SALARIES IN 2019.

THE ORDINANCE WAS NEVER PUT INTO PLACE BUT THE HAVE BEEN PAID SO THE REASON THAT THAT FIRST BLOCK IS THERE IS BECAUSE SINCE THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE WAS NOT AMENDED WHICH ESTABLISHES THE BASE SALARY THE OFFICIALS THAT HAVE BEEN ELECTED SINCE 2019 SPECIFICALLY THE AUDIT ARE THE AUDITOR AND THE CORONER ARE THEIR SALARIES THEIR CURRENT TWO DAYS SALARIES ARE BASED ON THE 2015 SALARIES WITH COLAS ADDED TO IT TO YOUR POINT SO THAT'S JUST NOT CORRECT BECAUSE WE ADJUSTED THEIR SALARY 2019 AND COLAS WERE ADDED TO THAT BUT BECAUSE IT IS A NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIAL, A NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIAL GO TO THE BASE PAY AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO MAKE. OH, I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK THEY WOULD GO TO THE SALARY OF THE POSITION WITH COLAS AND OTHER SALARY ADJUSTMENTS MINUS ANY REELECTION BONUSES THE COLAS GO THE POSITION NOT WITH THE PERSON CORRECT. SO THE GOAL WERE GRANTED TO THAT POSITION THEY WOULD BE EFFECTIVE TODAY CUMULATIVELY THE ONLY THING THAT WOULDN'T BE THERE WOULD BE ANY REELECTION BONUSES LET'S SAY IN THE CASE OF THE SHERIFF IT'S BEEN ELECTED FOUR TIMES IF SOMEONE ELSE COMES IN AND THE NEXT TERM THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOSING THOSE FOUR BONUSES AT 5% EACH AND REVERT BACK TO WHATEVER THE SALARY ESTABLISHED IN 2019 PLUS COLAS.

SO I BELIEVE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS AND I AGREE WITH YOU'RE STATING IS THAT THE AUDITOR IF YOU'LL SEE ON THE VERY TOP HERE BASE SALARY WHICH IS IN THE ORDINANCE FOR 2015 YOU WILL SEE THAT THEIR COLAS ARE IMPLEMENTED TO THAT BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS 2015 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS CONVERSATION A. NEW SALARY WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2019 AND COLAS WERE ADDED THAT THEN REELECTION BONUSES SHOULD BE DEDUCTED TO REACH THE CURRENT SALARY. THIS IS SIMPLE I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE DEALING WITH 15, 16, 17, 20. I WANT TO INTERRUPT A SECOND. THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAD ON AUGUST 12TH OF 2019 WAS THAT EVER ADOPTED? NO.

NO. SO THEN THE 2015 IS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE TO USE.

IT IS IN THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW AS TODAY. YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE WE NEVER ADOPTED THAT LARRY WE'RE NOW DEALING WITH WHAT TOOK PLACE IN 2015 THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL AND HALF THE ROLL ALL OF THOSE FORWARD SO THAT WHEN WE ADOPT AN ORDINANCE IT UPDATES EVERYTHING FROM 2015 TO CURRENT. UNFORTUNATELY EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A DESIRE ON OUR PART TO CHANGE THE SALARIES IN 2019 FOR WHATEVER REASON COUNCIL NEVER ADOPTED THAT THEREFORE I WOULDN'T GO SO FAR AS TO THAT IT WAS NEVER PRESENTED TO COUNCIL WELL I'D SAY COUNCIL NEVER ADOPTED IT IT WAS NEVER PRESENTED RIGHT.

SO I HAVE WORDS WITH CATHERINE MAID WHO IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL WE HAVE GOT SHE IS NOT GOING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR HER HARD WORK. SHE HAS GONE BACK THROUGH ALL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS AND GOING BACK FROM AUGUST 12, 2019 AND HAS ENSURED THAT SALARIES OF THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN PROPERLY PAID OUT AND AGAIN WE SAY WELL OKAY THEN I DON'T REALLY NEED TO BEAT US TO DEATH.

THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PROPOSE HERE TODAY ARE THEY BASED UPON WHAT WE RECOMMENDED IN 2019 PLUS THE COLAS AND OTHER SALARY PEOPLE RECEIVE? YES. OKAY, FINE. I DON'T CARE ABOUT 15, 16 AND 18. I AGREE YOU WE GOT THAT FAR. WE GOT THAT.

AND SO CATHERINE DOES HAVE THE NUMBERS AND CAN PROVIDE THEM FOR THE TWO ELECTED OFFICIALS ON HERE. IT WOULD BE CORONER IN THE ORDER THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED AND AS WELL SHE'S YES SO THAT PROBATE WE CAN WE'D HAVE TO RECALCULATE THAT ONE AS WELL SO

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WHAT THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE WOULD PAY THEM RETROACTIVELY COMPENSATE THEM RETROACTIVE BASED ON THESE RECOMMENDED SALARY RATES PROVIDED BY MCMILLAN AND THE FIRST SET OF NUMBERS. SO THEN ON THIS SHEET HERE RIGHT IS I SEE YOU HAVE THE PROBATE JUDGE HERE ISN'T THE PROBATE JUDGE A SALARY CONTROLLED BY THE STATE? YES, IT IS, BROOKE. IT IS CONTROLLED BY THE STATE. THERE IT IS BASED ON THE POPULATION. SO YES. SO BUT WE DIDN'T WE NEVER ADJUSTED THE PROBATE JUDGE SALARY BECAUSE THAT'S A STATE STATUTE.

OKAY. AND IF I MAY CLARIFY, I DO I HAVE RAN THE NUMBERS.

I HAVE THEM I DON'T HAVE THEM HERE TODAY. BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO SHARE THAT OUT AND DISSEMINATE IT TO COUNSEL. BUT IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WERE TWO IF IF WE'RE GOING TO CORRECT AND GO BACK TO THE 2019 WHICH SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED I HAVE ALREADY WHAT WE WOULD OWE TO ELECTED OFFICIALS SO THAT'S READY TO GO.

I JUST NEED TO WAIT A MINUTE. THERE THEY WERE. THEY'VE BEEN GETTING PAID THAT SALARY SINCE 2019. WHY DO WE OWE MONEY? YOU MEAN THE TWO THAT JUST CAME IN? OH SORRY. OKAY OKAY OKAY OKAY OKAY.

ALRIGHT SO OUT OF THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM HOWEVER WE EITHER NEED TO HAVE YOU BACK TO US AT OUR NEXT FINANCE COMMITTEE AND PRESENT THOSE NUMBERS TO US SO WE CAN THEN MOVE TO COUNCIL OR WE CAN VOTE TO MOVE THIS TO COUNCIL AND BY THAT TIME HAVE THE CORRECTED NUMBERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND HAVE THE DETAILS THAT WE NEED.

SO IT'LL BE WHATEVER THIS WISHES TO DO. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE OUR ACTIVE ADMINISTRATOR TO WORK WITH STAFF AND COME BACK AT OUR NEXT FINANCE COMMITTEE.

WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM EVENTUALLY. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE THE JUST AREN'T THESE NUMBERS CORRECT PARDON ME AREN'T THE NUMBERS WE'RE LOOKING AT CORRECT. FINAL NUMBER DON'T WE HAVE FINAL THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE YOU THE FIRST SECTION AS CHAIRMAN PARSON AND CLARIFY THAT THAT'S WHAT IT READS TODAY BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE WAS NOT ADOPTED SECOND SECTION IS WHERE THE CURRENT ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE CURRENTLY MAKING AND OUR LIST THERE IS TO THE AUDITOR AND THE CORONER AND IT WILL NEED TO BE ADJUSTED SINCE WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK AND AMEND THE ORDINANCE FROM 2015 WITH THE BASE SALARY. OKAY SO WILL CHANGE WILL CHANGE RATES WHAT WAS THE NUMBER WE RECOMMENDED FOR THE AUDITOR IN 2018 AND 20 1988 STARTED AT 88,000 BUT SINCE WE DON'T I DON'T NEED TO GO BACK TO THAT JUST GO BACK TO THE ONE THAT WAS UP PLEASE SO IF WE RECOMMEND THAT 88 WHEN YOU SAY CURRENT EO COUNTY SALARY 78 THAT'S NOT A RECOMMENDED 88 WHY WOULD IT BE 78 THAT'S THE CURRENT THAT IS WHAT THE AUDITOR CURRENTLY MAKES BECAUSE THE AUDITOR WAS GIVEN THE PAY OF HOW THE ORDINANCE TODAY WHICH IS BASED ON THAT FIRST SECTION OF THIS SPREADSHEET. RIGHT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION. RIGHT BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE NEVER ADOPTED THEY HAD TO GO BACK TO 2015 AND START AT 59 915 AND MOVE ALL THE MONEY FORWARD.

BUT THERE ALL THE OTHER NUMBERS ARE ALL CORRECT EXCEPT FOR THE CORONER AND THE AUDITORS AT IT.

CORRECT. SO NOW WHAT WE'RE TELLING TO DO IS START WITH WHAT WE WANTED TO HAVE DONE IN 2019 FOR THE CORONER AND THE AUDITOR MOVED MONEY FORWARD WHICH WILL CORRECT THEIR SALARIES AND THEN WILL ADOPT THAT AND FIND MINUS ANY REELECTION BONUS THERE'S NO REELECTION BONUS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS TO CHARGE TO COME FORWARD WHEN WE PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER TO ADOPT IN THE BUDGET ALL OF THIS INFORMATION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS YEAR IN AND YEAR. OUT OF WONDERING DID WE UPDATE ORDINANCE WE TAKE CARE OF IT ALL AT ONCE WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET. SO YOU SHOULD COME BACK TO FINANCE WITH THE FULL NUMBERS OF GREAT NUMBERS IN THE BUDGET ACCOUNTING.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU FROM THE BUDGET AND THEN WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO AND THEN WE HAVE TO RECTIFY IT IN THE NEXT YEAR. CORRECT? OKAY. YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. SHE DOESN'T HAVE IT WITH HER BUT YOU DON'T DON'T HAVE I APOLOGIZE I DID THAT THAT'S OKAY SO TODAY BUT YES I HAVE THE WORK COMPLETED I CAN HAVE IT SO MR. ROBINSON I'LL MAKE SURE IT COMES FORWARD.

AND A FINAL QUESTION THE ONLY TWO PEOPLE GETTING RETROACTIVE PAY THE AUDITOR AND THE CORONER

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RIGHT. EVERYBODY ELSE IS PAID ACCORDINGLY.

OKAY. HERE FOR THOSE NUMBER OF YEARS RATHER WASTE A MONTH GOING BACK TO FINANCE FOR SOMETHING THEY ALREADY HAVE WE CAN MOVE THIS TO COUNCIL GET THE INFORMATION I HAVE ON MONDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING RIGHT WOULD YOU HAVE THAT READY.

YEAH YOU DO THAT ALL RIGHT. IF YOU CAN GET IT DONE THAT'S FINE.

I WAS GIVING LEAD TIME. ALL RIGHT, SO THEN I NEED A MOTION THEN THAT ENFORCEMENT.

YEAH. SO I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE THIS TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AT MONDAY'S MEETING WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE SALARIES OF THE AUDITOR AND THE CORONER BE REDONE TO EFFECT OF CORRECT YEAH TO BE CORRECT ADDED TO THE DESIRED SALARIES AND I WOULD ASK FOR CLAIR BROWN SECOND IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION MS. WORD ONE OF THE SIX GOALS SIR IF WE CAN JUST MAKE IT EXTREMELY CLEAR IN VOTING THAT THAT SALARY CHANGE IS TO IMPLEMENTED AT THE TIME THAT THEY WERE ELECTED. YES, CORRECT.

YES WE KNOW THAT. YEAH. WELL WHEN YOU PRESENT THE A'S YOU'LL HAVE THAT IN THERE AND SO THE MOTION WILL MADE AT THAT TIME AND SO THAT THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE IF THE NEXT SOMEONE GETS REELECTED. SO THAT NEW BASE SALARY IS GOING TO BE THAT EFFECTIVE. THE NEW WAS ELECTED WE WILL HAVE AN ORDINANCE OR YOU TO MOVE IT FORWARD WHICH WILL RETROACTIVELY ADDRESS THE PREVIOUS OC ISSUES AS WELL AS MOVING FORWARD AND THIS WILL AUTHORIZE THE SALARIES FOR ALL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THERE EXCEPT COUNTY COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY RECEIVING THEM BUT NEVER HAD THE AUTHORITY BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE WASN'T PRESENTED RIGHT. CORRECT.

SO MOVING INTO THE FUTURE THIS WILL BE PART OF OUR ANNUAL BUDGET ORDINANCE SO IT'S OUTDATED. WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ELECTION CYCLES OR WORRY ABOUT SOMETHING MISSED PART OF OUR BUDGET. SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS THESE TWO PEOPLE PAID A FILING FEE LIKE SOME OF US DID IT'S BASED ON YOUR SALARY WAS FILING FEE CORRECT? I'M NOT AWARE THAT'S AN OPEN QUESTION THAT I'M THROWING IT OUT AND DISCUSSED IT WITH THEM THERE WAS THEY JUST IT OUT IT WAS WHAT DAVID GET PAID THAT THAT IS WHAT HIS SALARY SHOULD BE LARRY AND I WE IT'S AND LARRY AN EMAIL MONTHS AGO AND REGARDING THE BREAKDOWN ON THAT WELL LET'S GO AHEAD SO I DID REACH OUT TO MARY SMALLS OF OUR VOTER REGISTRATION DEPARTMENT AND YES, YOU'RE CORRECT, IT IS BASED ON SALARIES.

I ASKED HER WHERE WHERE THE INFORMATION CAME FROM AND SHE SAID STATE ELECTION COMMISSION PLACES THE SALARY. SO THEN I FURTHER ASKED HER IF SHE COULD SEND ME, YOU KNOW, THEIR INFORMATION OR A LIST OF OFFICES WITH THE BASE SALARIES YOU KNOW JUST TO SO I'M WAITING ON THAT INFORMATION BUT I'LL I'LL FORWARD IT OR I'LL BRING IT BECAUSE THEN IF THEY WERE CHARGED THE PROPER AMOUNT OF FILE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE SITTING IN THE BOAT WE'RE IN. YES. YEAH BUT THEN WHY ARE THEY CHARGED THAT AMOUNT YEAH I'M LIKE I DO WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY BASED IT ON SO CORRECT IS I GET THAT YES THEY WOULD HAVE BASED UPON THE PERSON HOLDING THE POSITION WELL SUSTAINABILITY BEING ELECTED AGAIN YEAH THAT'S THE QUESTION AND LET ME JUST POINT OUT WHAT MR. MCCULLEN HAD SAID IS THE FACT THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS LISTED HERE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COUNTY COUNCIL. WE HAVE TO FOLLOW A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SET OF RULES TO CHANGE ANY TYPE OF SALARY FOR A COUNTY COUNCIL PERSON.

AND SO THE EMOTION IS THERE A SECOND FOR MR. PLACEMENTS OH YEAH.

MR. BROWN ALL RIGHT. AND IS ANY MORE DISCUSSION NO, I SEEN NO DISCUSSION.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION SO YOU NO OBJECTION AS WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT COUNTY COUNCIL

[14. DISCUSSION AND REVIEW OF COUNTY COUNCIL'S RULES AND PROCEDURES DRAFT DOCUMENT]

MEETING? THANK YOU MS. WARD THANKS FOR DOING ALL THE BACKGROUND WORK LADIES AND YOU I HAVE ONE MORE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA AND THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSION OF REVIEW OF COUNTY COUNCIL'S AND PROCEDURES DRAFT DOCUMENT AND THIS IS FOR THERE'S NO FISCAL IMPACT FOR THIS. SO AGAIN AND WHO'S GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS THIS IS WOULD BE ME. OH MR. PASSMAN. YES? THE RULES AND PROCEDURES MANUAL HAS BEEN ADOPTED FIRST IN 1985 AND UPDATED PERIODICALLY THE LAST TIME IT WAS ACTUALLY UPDATED WAS 2015. THE PRIOR WAS A COMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO UPDATE THE RULES AND PROCEDURES IT DID NOT FINISH ITS WORK AND LEFT IT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL. THE NEXT COUNCIL DID NOT DO THE COMPLETION THIS BASED UPON THAT

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I SHARE WITH CAVANEY AND OUR CLERK TO COUNSEL TO GO THROUGH VARIOUS ITERATIONS WE TOOK THE DOCUMENT FROM 2015, ANALYZED IT, MADE SOME RECOMMENDED CHANGES.

WE THEN HAD A DRAFT OF THAT. WE ANALYZED IT AND MADE CHANGES WE GOT THAT DRAFT ANALYZED IT AND MADE CHANGES. WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS A COMPILATION OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IT'S THE FIRST TIME COUNCIL IS SEEING THIS DOCUMENT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE TRIED DO SEVERAL OF THE ITEMS THAT WE REQUESTED CHANGES FOR DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THIS ITERATION AND IT WAS SCRATCHING OUR HEAD SAYING WE DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT THE WORD CHAIR WAS MISSPELLED YES I IT AND IT'S STILL IN HERE WE JUST DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT THE ENTIRE SECTION ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENTS HAD TO BE REWRITTEN BECAUSE THE 30 MINUTES IS THE BEGINNING 15 MINUTES AND THE ENDING 15 MINUTES AND IT ISN'T CLEAR IN THERE.

SO ALL OF THIS IS TO SAY HERE'S YOUR FIRST CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING NOW AS TRUE TO FORM AS SHE DOES. MS. TABACHNICK HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH IT AND SENT SEVERAL COMMENTS SAYING ON THIS PAGE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS SO ON AND SO FORTH.

WE'VE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD AGAIN.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET ITERATION OF THIS SO THAT CAN REALLY HAVE AN IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION BEFORE WE ADOPT THESE RULES ANY QUESTIONS AND DON'T PRESUME I GOT EVERYTHING SO FEEL FREE KNOW YEAH OKAY SO AT POINT MR. PASSEL UP THERE FOR US IS JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS LIKE MS.. TABERNACLE DID SHE SEND THOSE WE'VE TAKEN THOSE TAKEN THIS LAST ITERATION, CIRCLED THEM IN DOCUMENT WILL NOW GO BACK AND DISCUSS BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT. WE WANT TO HAVE IT ON OUR WEBSITE. WE WANT IT TO BE PUBLISHED SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW WE OPERATE SO THERE IS NO ACTION TO TAKE AT THIS. RIGHT.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

THANK YOU. AND SO THEN LET'S MOVE ON THEN WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA CODE SECTION 30 DASHBOARD 78 TO WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS AND THOSE FOUR ITEMS WE DISCUSSION AND NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TWO PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND PROPOSED PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY SECOND WOULD BE TO ENGAGE IN DISCUSSIONS OF NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TWO PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENT PERFORMANCE ANNUAL LOBBYING CONTRACT THIRD ONE TO WOULD BE TO ENGAGE IN DISCUSSIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TO PROPOSE CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS LOWCOUNTRY INSIDE TRACK LTV AND THE FOURTH WOULD BE TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FOR THE ADVICE RELATES THREATENED OR POTENTIAL LITIGATION FROM FORMER EMPLOYEES AND FORMER INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR AND THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE MATTERS ARISING OUT OF THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THERE SOMEONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION SO MOVE IS THERE A SECOND AND SECOND IS THERE ANY OBJECTION SEEING NO OBJECTION WE WILL THEN MOVE TO EXECUTIVE IS THERE ANY ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY THIS COMMITTEE ONE ONE SEEING NO ACTION WE ARE ADJOURNED

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.