Sep 18, 2023 Hilton Head Island Community Services & Public Safety Committee

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PRESENT THAT ALTHOUGH I DON'T SEE HIM RIGHT THIS MINUTE AND THIS IS A MATTER THAT WE'VE REVIEWED PREVIOUSLY WE SENT TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION THAT'S NOW BACK BEFORE US SO OKAY UNDER POP AND I THINK SO AND IF IT'S AND CAN BE FOR HIM RIGHT THIS SECOND WE UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYONE'S WE COULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM IF THERE WOULD BE NO OBJECTION TO THAT AS THEN THE NEXT ITEM WE DON'T NEED JOSH FOR IS THAT WE'RE GOING FIND WE COULD GO AHEAD

[*The meeting was joined in progress* 8A. Beaufort County Sheriff’s Office Hilton Head Island Crime Data Quarterly Report- Major Jeff Purdy, Southern Enforcement Branch Commander]

THERE ARE OBJECTIONS THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME MAJOR JEFF HARDY TO THE PODIUM TO THE REPORT FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE QUARTERLY STATISTICS FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND. I HEAR YOU'RE WAS PUT BACK. WELCOME.

THANK YOU. I GOT ANOTHER POWERPOINT A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT'S IT'S GOT THE SAME INFORMATION BUT A LITTLE BETTER MORE PALATABLE.

GOOD MORNING. APPRECIATE YOUR HAVING US HERE THIS MORNING.

THIS IS THE SECOND QUARTER FOR THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS THE SECOND QUARTER OF THIS QUARTER COMPARED TO LAST QUARTER AND 2020.

SO YOU ARE MURDERERS OR DOWN ON AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS. YOU'RE UP FOR ROBBERIES ARE UP TWO AND THE AREA OF THE AGGRAVATED SO IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL IN ONE AREA WE'RE STILL WE'RE STEADY WORKING ON THOSE SAME THING AS LAST IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR I THINK WHEN ARE YOU FOLKS ASK ME TO KIND OF COMPARE THESE TO LAST YEAR'S EVENTS RATHER THAN QUARTER FOR QUARTER SO LOOKING AT LAST YEAR WE'RE WE'RE UP A LITTLE BIT BUT IT'S THE SAME AREA WE WORK ON. WE'VE BEEN STEADY WORKING ON IT.

THE ROBBERIES ARE SCATTERED SCATTERED ACROSS HERE. THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY WHAT I ORDER SO I CAN'T REALLY NARROW THOSE DOWN AND GIVE YOU SOME EXACT LOCATIONS FOR THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SEPARATE. WHAT IS THAT AREA AS FAR AS THE ASSAULTS? ASSAULTS A LOT OF ARE FIVE OUT OF THE 24 ARE IN THE AREA OF SOUTHWARD SOUTHWARD PARK DRIVE AND THEN THREE OF THEM ARE IN THE AREA OF SQUIRE POLK .

THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD CHUNK OF THOSE AND THE REST OF THOSE ARE SCATTERED OUT AND WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ROBBERIES. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ALL THE PLACE I SEE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

WHAT IS IT SOUTHWARD. WE'VE GOT ONE ON TRUIST COURT MAIN STREET IN, THE WAL-MART AREA. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF SCATTERED OUT A LITTLE BIT AND WE SEE STATISTICS LIKE THAT AND JUST LISTENING TO YOU DESCRIBE WHERE THEY OCCURRED IT COULD IT POSSIBLY BE THAT WITHIN THAT ONE CRIME OR THAT ONE EVENT THAT DIFFERENT CRIMES ARE BEING COMMITTED AND SO WE SEE ONE EVENT BROKEN UP TO CATEGORIZE A ROBBERY THAT INCLUDED AN ASSAULT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES AS AN EXAMPLE AND A LARCENY AS.

WELL IT COULD YES MA'AM. THESE AREN'T NECESSARY SILLY ALL INDIVIDUAL EVENTS THEY COULD BE. THANK YOU. I'M JUST TRYING TO LIGHTEN THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT. WE'VE GOT A CANINE HERE WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PROBABLY IS ASSIGNED TO SERGEANT SWAN HAMMER. HE WORKS ON HEAD BLUFFTON PREDOMINANTLY HILTON HEAD AND BLUFFTON. HOWEVER, HE'S ALL OVER THE

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I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEE THAT. AND I THINK LAST I THINK MR. BROWN YOU ASKED WHY WE DIDN'T BRING THE DOGS OR HAVE THOSE FOLKS COME TO THESE MEETINGS WHEN WE BRING ANIMALS OUT TO DIFFERENT EVENTS IT'S USUALLY UPON REQUEST OF ANYBODY WANTS TO REQUEST TO SEE SOME OF THE CANINES, THE BLOODHOUNDS OR ANY OF THE SPECIAL TEAMS OR SPECIAL EQUIPMENT WE HAVE. IT'S USUALLY IT'S ALWAYS ON REQUEST BUT AGAIN THERE'S PRIDE ONE HE'S OUR LATEST ADDITION TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. HE'S A PATROL CANINE.

HE RUNS AROUND PATROL CAR FOR 12 HOURS A SHERIFF WITH HIS HANDLER SERGEANT ONE HERE AND HE'LL DETECT HE'S A DRUG DOG AS WELL AS A TRACKING BILL. MY PERSPECTIVE AS CHAIR AND EVERYONE'S WILLING WELCOME TO JOIN IN BUT WE WOULD WELCOME OFFICER CANINE GUINTA TO TO OUR MEMBERS FOR ONE OF MY MEETINGS IT'S AN OPEN INVITATION AS IMPORTANT AS EVERYONE WHO STANDS ON SAFETY AND AS WE'RE FOR AND TO TAKE THE CONVERSATION CONVERSATION OR TO SUGGEST THAT GOODWIN IS SOMEONE THAT THE COMMUNITY SPEAKS AND UNDERSTANDS VERSUS JUST THIS COMMITTEE OKAY IN A FEW AREAS THAT WE'VE SEEN SOME CONSISTENCY AND CRIME RIGHT AND I GUESS THE CHALLENGE TO US ALL IS HOW DO WE START TO INTERRACIALLY CHANGE THE ATTITUDE SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT FRED WYNN IS A SERVANT OF THE COMMUNITY AND IS HERE TO HELP VERSUS SOMEBODY THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE CHASING ME WHEN I DO SOMETHING.

OKAY, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY MIND WAS AS FAR AS INTRODUCING OFFICERS TO OUR COMMUNITY ALL RIGHT. SWITCHING OVER TO SOME PROPERTY CRIMES COMPARED TO LAST YEAR THIS QUARTER WE'RE DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON BURGLARIES. WE'RE DOWN A LOT ON THE LAST AS YOU CAN SEE I MEAN THE SAME AUTO AS I DUG DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON THOSE START WITH THOSE THERE WERE ACTUALLY 12 THOSE WERE VEHICLES THE OTHER ONES WERE OR GOLF CARTS WERE ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND IF NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN RECOVERED. A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEEN RECOVERED AND YOU COMPARE IT TO LAST THE LAST YEAR. YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD ON THE BURGLARIES, THE LARCENIES AND THE AUTO THEFTS ARE ARE ABOUT THE SAME I WOULD IMAGINE THE BIG QUESTION IS IS WAS SUCH A DROP AND LASTLY PLACE WELL A LOT OF THOSE WERE CAR BREAK INS AN UPTICK BACK IN THE LAST YEAR THE YEAR BEFORE WE HAD A RASH OF CAR BREAK INS.

THEY JUST CONTINUED TO INTO THESE UNSECURED VEHICLES. SO I'M HOPING THAT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO LOCK THEIR VEHICLES MORE AND HIDE ITEMS THERE ARE IMPORTANT OTHER PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE LEARN TAKE FROM AN OPPORTUNITY. I'M HOPING THAT'S THE ANSWER BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU FOR SURE BUT BUT IT'S NICE TO SEE DROP OH THIS IS OUR WE'VE GOT A NEW HANDLER WITH THE GUY WE HAVE GREG IS OUR SPONSORED DOG WE JUST GOT A NEW HANDLER HE'S WITH LANCE CORPORAL DEAL HE WAS REASSIGNED TO HIM RECENTLY AND THEY GET A LOT OF A LOT OF STUFF ON HILTON HEAD. THEY DO THE AIRPORT UP ROUTINELY FOR EXPLOSIVES.

THEY DO PARADES, THEY DO THE SCHOOLS, THEY DO BUSINESSES ARE THE HERITAGE WAS A BIG, BIG EVENT. THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME OUT THERE.

BUT GAVIN LANCE CORPORAL VIETNAM I WAS ASSIGNED TO HILTON HEAD DOG WAS WITH HIM EVERYWHERE HE GOES IF HE'S CALLED TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING TO DO WITH AN EXPLOSIVE HE HANDLES IT AS WELL AS A CADAVER. HE'LL HANDLE THAT AS WELL EVEN IF I'M WRONG, CORRECT ME. I BELIEVE HE WAS AT CELEBRATION PARK.

YES YES. THINK IT WAS. THANK YOU.

COLLISIONS ON OUR COLLISIONS IS A BIG DEAL BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FROM FROM LAST QUARTER OR UP A LITTLE BIT SECOND QUARTER THERE'S MORE I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE COMING IN IN THE FIRST QUARTER BUT WE'RE UP A LITTLE BIT THERE. THE INJURIES TO ME THINK THAT'S A BIG CONSIDERATION INJURIES OR MAYBE THE SAME BUT IF NOT THE COLLISIONS. THEY'RE JUST THERE A THERE'S A LOT OF THEM HERE ON HILTON HEAD I COULD ATTEST TO THAT BECAUSE LAST QUARTER I WAS REAR ENDED HERE ON THE ISLAND AS WELL FORTUNATE I'M VERY FORTUNATE I DID NOT UP IN THAT INJURY

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YES, THANKS. I WAS AT A SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE'D A QUESTION ABOUT THE LARCENIES AND ASSAULTS AND THE THE BEST I CAN GIVE YOU MOST MAJORITY OF THE LECTURE SQUIRE PUB ON I WANT TO AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE AROUND THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE COMPLIMENTARY WORD ON THE OTHER SIDE AND THAT'S WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF THE WRECKS OCCUR IN MARATHONS OR COMING INTO THE SIDE ANGLE THE SIDE FROM TURN AND THAT FOR YOU WHICH AS TO HOW OUR ONCE WE GET IT UP AND RUNNING AND FINALIZE AND CALCULATE DATA HOW OUR NEW EPIC TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEM OR MAY WORK WITH OUR TOWN STAFF AND IN ANALYZING THAT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE AFTER THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE DATA FOR THAT UNTIL THE END OF IT CITATIONS IN APRIL THEY'RE UP A LITTLE BIT MAY THEY'RE DOWN IN JUNE THEY'RE UP SO THE WARNINGS ARE DOWN ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THIS AND OF LAST YEAR AND I JUST AGAIN THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING NICE THIS IS ONE OF OUR DEPUTIES IF ZACHARY BEFORE AFTER THE SERVICE HE WENT OUT MET WITH SOME FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY I'M I BACK TO BACK TO BUSINESS CALLS FOR SERVICE LOOKS LIKE WE'RE DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON THE CALLS FOR SERVICE THIS COMPARED TO THE FIRST QUARTER AND COMPARED TO YEAR EXCUSE ME UP FROM THE FIRST QUARTER AND DOWN A LITTLE BIT YEAR OR INCIDENT REPORTS ARE UP OR TESTS ARE UP OR THREE TIMES OR DOWN AND ARE POSTING YOUR HANGARS ARE DOWN UNDER 3.930 NINES ARE SELF-REPORTING TRAFFIC REPORTS OR IF IT'S A VERY MINOR FENDER IF YOU WILL AND IT'S CANCELED THIS WILL GIVE A ON SELF-REPORTING SYSTEM . WE'RE GOING TO THE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

JUST CURIOUS ANECDOTALLY. DO YOU THINK THAT ANY THE ADDITIONAL AP OR TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCERS OR IS THAT HELPING IS THAT COMPLEMENTING THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE BEING CALLED INTO ASKED TO DO IT? I THINK WITHOUT QUESTION IT'S HELPING BUT AS FAR AS AS IN FACT THESE NUMBERS I DON'T KNOW THEY JUST CARE. I KNOW THAT THEY'RE DOING A

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I AGREE AS WELL AS FOLKS STOPPING FOR LEMONADE I THINK THAT INTERACTION WITH OUR CITIZENS IS FANTASTIC. THANKS BEACH PATROL OVER THE SUMMER YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ON AN TOWN ORDINANCES AND WANT A WHOLE LOT OF TICKETS AND CITATIONS ARE ON BEACH OR GO OUT TO BE OUT ON THE BEACH JUST TO HELP EDUCATE AND HAVE THESE PEOPLE THAT COME AND VISIT HILTON HEAD ENJOY THEIR TIME THERE LANCE CORPORAL JACOB CROSS WAS OUT THERE WORKING IT. THEY'RE GOING GET THEM CLEANING UP SOMEWHERE.

SOMEBODY TOOK SOME PICTURES OF THAT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD DEED AND CAN I GO BACK TO EDUCATING AND HAVING THESE FOLKS THAT ARE COMING HERE AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE ENJOYING THE NATURAL RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IS IS KEY. WE WANT IT SAFELY IN ADDITION TO ALL THE WE ALSO HAVE THE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE ONE OF THE RESOURCES WE HAVE IN ADDITION TO THE EXPLOSIVE DOG THE CADAVER DOGS IS THE UNIT SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE HERITAGE WAS A SUCCESSFUL ONE WHEN THE MARINE OUT THERE AND HAD OUR MARINE PATROL OUT THERE AS WELL I'M SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR THE CREW SOME OTHER EVENTS WE DO A LOT OF EVENTS THINK SOMEONE ASKED YOU TO GIVE A NUMBER OF HOW MANY EVENTS WE GO TO AND WE PRESENT OURSELVES THAT I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE AGENCY THAT GO DIFFERENT AND DO IT. IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WORK DIRECTLY FOR FOR US ON HILTON HEAD STARTED RECORDING AS OWEN HILTON HAD MOST OF THE TIME I GOT DANNY ALLEN IS ON HILTON HAD QUITE A BIT OF TIME HE'S OUT IN THE COMMUNITY EARLY CLUB AND THEN WE'VE GOT SERGEANT AARONS WHO'S OUT THERE WAS ONE OF THE SCHOOLS ON HIM. THESE GUYS ARE ACTUALLY ON HILTON HEAD DANCE NOT ONLY TO TRY TO PROTECT PEOPLE HERE BUT TO TRY TO ENGAGE VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THE CANNON? YES, I'D SAY AS USED BY EVERY TIME YOU'RE HERE A QUESTION UNTIL I GET AN ANSWER. ERIC ALSO REPORTED TO THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL DURING THIS YEAR BUT THE CONSTITUENTS I HEAR FROM MOST OFTEN CONCERNED ABOUT OFF HERE FROM WHERE I LIVE ON THE NORTH END OF THE ISLAND KEEPING A MILES PER HOUR PARKWAY CARS FLEW BY ME RIGHT NEAR SHELTON COVE LANE AIRLINE OFFICE IS THE QUESTION I'VE GOT FOR THE FOLKS WHO ASK WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT SPEEDING AS SOME DATA PARTICULARLY ABOUT CITATIONS, THINGS, TICKETS, WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED HERE LIKE SOME DATA ABOUT THAT IN ADDITION TO THE PATROLLING THAT WE DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT ON HERE WHERE THE GUYS ARE SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED HERE AND THE OTHER FOLKS ON THE ROAD YOU WE'VE OPENED IT UP EXTRA DUTY FOR GUYS TO COME DOWN ON THEIR DAYS OFF TO RUN TRAFFIC WE DO IT IN 600 BLOCKS A COUPLE OF DAYS A WEEK. THEY ARE DOING THAT THEY'RE ACTIVELY DOING THAT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING SOME RED LIGHT ISSUES TO OUR ATTENTION WHEN PEOPLE RUNNING RED LIGHTS ALSO MEAN THAT'S THAT'S THE SAME WE'VE GOT THESE GUYS COMING IN ON THEIR DAY OFF TO WORK IF I'M WORKING ON IT AND THE NEXT TIME YOU GIVE A REPORT CAN WE HAVE MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT THAT OR IS SPEEDING AND LIKE NUMBER OF TICKETS OR THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY PATROLLING LOOKING FOR SPEEDING AND YOU KNOW I KNOW SOMETIMES ON THE CROSS ON THERE'S SOMEBODY SITTING THERE ARE SITTING THERE WATCHING US HERE JUST BE HAVEN'T SEEN AS MUCH ON WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY BUT DEFINITELY ON THE CROSS ISLAND . OH I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO REVEAL YOUR LOCATIONS AND PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE BUT MORE DATA ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING ENFORCE IT AS THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN BY RESIDENTS ON THIS ISLAND AND THEN AFTER DRIVING ON THE PAGE WITHIN THE DOCUMENT THAT REFERS TO TICKETS AND WARNINGS IS I WOULD ASSUME AND I'M SOMETHING THAT THESE ARE ROAD INFRACTIONS SPEEDING AS DISTRACTED DRIVING ARRESTS OR THESE RELATE TO TICKETS ALSO ON THE BEACH IN THE WEST IS TYPICALLY MOST OF THESE DEAL WITH TRAFFIC MORE OR LESS FRIENDS NOT ALL OF THEM

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[7A. Discussion of Appointment of a Town of Hilton Head Island Representative on the Military Enhancement Committee of Beaufort County – Josh Gruber, Deputy Town Manager]

YES. GOOD MORNING APPRECIATE THE UP TO YOU TO CHAT WITH ME TODAY THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF A DISCUSSION WE STARTED AT YOUR MEETING LAST MONTH WITH REGARDS TO YOUR THAT THE TOWN RECEIVE TO APPOINT A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE VIEW COUNTY MILITARY ENHANCEMENT COMMITTEE AT THE LAST MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE ASKED IF YOU COULD OBTAIN A COPY OF THE CURRENT BYLAWS OF THE ORGANIZATION AND ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONAL INFORMATION AND THEN PARTICULARLY ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS IF ANY THAT ARE REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS ORGANIZATION.

SO STAFF WENT AND OBTAINED COPIES OF THAT INFORMATION. IT'S INCLUDED IN THE BACK OF MATERIALS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY AND THEN WE'VE GOT A SUMMARY WITHIN THE STAFF AND SO WITH THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE BUT HOPEFULLY BEEN ABLE TO BRING BACK INFORMATION THAT THE COMMITTEE WAS SEEKING FROM THE LAST MEETING TO BE A REPRESENTATIVE THAT WE AUTHORIZE ARE TOWN MANAGER OR MAYOR TO A POINT THE MAYOR WOULD APPOINT I THINK IF ANY QUESTIONS AT ALLIED ASSERTIONS OKAY AND WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US WITH REGARD TO ULTIMATELY THAT THE COMMITTEE IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS REQUEST TO RECOMMEND THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO PURSUE MAKING SUCH AN APPOINTMENT OR IF THE COMMITTEE CONCERNS OR RESERVATIONS TO RAISE THOSE UP TO COUNCIL AS WELL. BUT EITHER WAY TO TAKE THIS REQUEST TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR POLICY DIRECTION TO STAFF AND IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS THEN CAN WE GET A MOTION TO DO THAT TO TAKE THIS ITEM AND MOVE IT FORWARD TO THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR.

[7B. Discussion of a Proposed Ordinance 2023-17 Amending Title 12 of the Municipal Code of the Town of Hilton Head Island, Motor Vehicles and Traffic Control, to Revise Regulations Related to Beach Parking – Josh Gruber, Deputy Town Manager]

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OKAY AND I ALL THE HIGHER THE HIGHLIGHTED TEXT WILL BE PRIMARILY THREE IS WITHIN THE LAST CONVERSATION THAT WAS MINING WHAT A RESIDENT IS IN THE MATERIAL PACKAGE THAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU OR IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED BY THAT LONG AGO THAT DEFINES WHAT A PARKING PASS ANY PERSON WHO OWNS ANY SINGLE AUTOMOTIVE AS IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER THE PERSON QUALIFIES FOR THAT 4% PERSON WHO IS A TENANT FOR A LEASE OF A SINGLE OR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCE FOR ANY PERSON WHO OWNS A TIMESHARE INTEREST TOTALING MORE THAN 183 DAYS SO THAT THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE AS THE DEFINITION AND AGAIN EACH RESIDENCE WOULD BE HAD A LIMIT TO TWO PARKING PASSES PER 83 IS LIKE WHAT I WOULD CALL MONTHS SO LIKE HALF A YEAR DIVIDED BY TWO AND THIS IS THE SAME JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WHO'S LISTENING THIS IS THE SAME DEFINITION WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT. WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF A RESIDENT FROM WE USED ISLANDERS FEATURE RESOLUTION 20 205 YEAH DEFINITION RIGHT OUT OF THE THE ONLY THING TO MENTION HERE FOR A 12 DASH FIVE DASH THINK OUT THE PEOPLE IN THE ORDINANCE PRACTICAL PURPOSES YOU KNOW I'M PARKING AREAS WILL BE MARKED SO A HOURS OF OPERATION I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND KIND OF SPURRED STAFF GATHERING OF A LOT OF THE DATA DATA BUT WE HAVE WORK BASED ON SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD

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ANYBODY ELSE IN THE BUSINESS OR ANY OF THE NEARBY STORES I MEAN I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT THE LARGER SENSE PLAYS ARE GOING TO BE STOPPED AND AT THE REST OF THE PAY PARKING AREAS THE DRAFT ORDINANCE ON FISH ALL BEACH GAS THAT DRIVES ARTERIES AND VOLLEY FIELD ISLANDERS ALL THE LANE AND CERTAINLY IT'S LIKE UNLESS I'M MISSING BUSINESSES IT MAY BE LOCATED IN THOSE AREAS THAT THE ONLY ONE IT'D BE APPLICABLE TO WOULD BE AND IT COULD BE STRUCTURED AS SUCH SO PARKING PASSES WOULD ONLY BE OF BUT ONLY I WAS GOING TO SAY BASED ON THE PCI I GUESS PCI PUT TOGETHER THE INFORMATION ON CLEANING I WAS JUST YEAH.

INTIMATE ANECDOTAL DATA LAST TIME I APPRECIATE ACTUAL DATA ABOUT WHEN THAT PARKING LOT AT CLEARLY BEACH IS FULL CERTAINLY ON THE WEEKEND AND WE HAVE AN ESPECIALLY LABOR DAY WEEKEND SO

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I JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS MAY NOT BE FOR YOU BABBLING THAT WE HAVE HERE I'M FOCUSING ON THE CLEANING DATA FROM 8 A.M. TO 4 P.M. IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHY WE CHOSE THAT TIME FRAME? YEAH WE CHOSE THAT TIME FRAME BASED ON THAT IS CURRENTLY WHAT WE WORKED OUT WITH THE TOWN AND WHAT WE HAVE STAFFING AVAILABLE SO WE TARGETED THOSE TIME FRAMES TO LEVERAGE THE STAFFING WE'RE NOT CREATING ADDITIONAL PAYROLL.

OKAY AND AS COUNCILWOMAN BRYSON NOTED LIMITED IN THE DATE OF A CALL THAT SOME DAYS ARE MISSING AS WELL AS TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING I'M NOT QUITE SURE WE HAD A POINT WHERE WE COULD BE MAKING DECISIONS IN THAT BUT AS I LOOK AT SOME OF THE CONSISTENCY COMES COMES TO I OCCUPANCY PERCENTAGE OKAY I'M CURIOUS AND MAYBE I NEED TO SEE THIS OUT LOUD FOR YOU MR. GRUBER ALONG I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THE SPILLOVER LIKE AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WE CAN RELY ON PCI TO HELP US WITH THAT. OKAY.

THEY SAID WE HAD 100% CAPACITY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE ON SATURDAY AUGUST 12 FROM 11 A.M.

TO 4 P.M. WE PACKED THAT LIKE THE BEACH BLOCK AND I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT ARE IN QUESTION OR AS BUSINESSES AT CONCERNED WHAT THOSE PARKING LOTS LOOK LIKE? OKAY. UM KEEPING IN MIND THAT ONCE WE START CHARGING WE SHOULD MAKE SOME ASSUMPTION THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MOVE FROM THE PAID PARKING TO FREE PARKING. YES SIR. AND FOR THOSE THAT THAT WANT TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE AND NOT VIOLATE ILLEGALLY PARKING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THAT'S WHERE OVERFLOW LOT AT UCB COMES INTO PLAY AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE EVER CAPACITY AT THAT LOCATION AND SO TERMS OF HAVING AVAILABILITY IT IS THERE. NOW TO YOUR POINT, WHAT ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T CHOOSE THAT OPTION THAT VERY DIFFICULT TO CALCULATE AND I'M JUST GOING TO USE ALLEGANY AS THE EXAMPLE JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE THAT COMES UP THE MOST FREQUENTLY IN TERMS OF THESE DISCUSSIONS ALTHOUGH BY NO MEANS ARE THEY THE ONLY ONE THAT'S IMPACTED THE ISSUE BECOMES CAN WE DETERMINE THE INTENT OF A PERSON ENTERING THAT PROPERTY UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THEM FROM THEIR CAR EITHER INTO A STORE OR FROM THEIR CAR ALL THE WAY TO THE BEACH BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ENTERING THE LOT THEY COULD BE THERE PROPER PURPOSES. THEY COULD BE THERE FOR IMPROPER PURPOSES AND SO GATHERING THAT DATA BECOMES DIFFICULT HOWEVER WHEN WE'VE TALKED WITH OUR SERVICE PROVIDER THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER TO REGULATE THE USE OF THAT PARKING LOT IF THEY WANTED TO AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF MAINTAINED THAT IF WE NEEDED TO ASSIST THEM THAT BECAUSE OF THE SPILLOVER IN EFFECT WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT TRYING TO DO THAT BUT THAT MEANS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ESTABLISH SOME KIND OF FORMALIZED PARKING PLAN FOR THEIR PROPERTY AS WELL SO THEY COULD IN FACT UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THE DRIVER AND PULLING INTO THAT THAT PROPERTY.

AN EXAMPLE OF THAT AND IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF A POTENTIAL IS THAT PARKING AT ALLEGHENY BECOMES PAID PARKING. BUT IF YOU GO INTO A VENDOR'S BUSINESS THEY CAN GIVE YOU A COUPON CODE FOR FREE PARKING BECAUSE YOU THE BUSINESS SO AGAIN NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE JUST ONE EXAMPLE ABOUT HOW THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE LOOKED AT. BUT TO YOUR POINT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IF THE VENDOR OR THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO WORK WITH US TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. IT JUST BECOMES DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THE DRIVER WHEN THEY'RE ENTERING THAT PROPERTY AS THAT PROPOSITION HAS BEEN RAISED WITH ANY OF THE NEW OWNERS IT HAS AND IF YOU HAD ANY KIND OF RESPONSE NOT THAT I WOULD SAY IT IS ACTIONABLE BUT WE'VE HAD CERTAINLY SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OPTIONS. I THINK PART OF IT IS UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS THE PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH IN THEIR MIND IF THERE'S NOT PARKING THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT PAID THEN THAT MAY

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BUT FOR COMPARISON OPPORTUNITIES I'M JUST THINKING 100% IF OUR PARKING LOT IS AT 100% AND NEARBY BUSINESS OWNERS PARKING LOTS OR AT 100%, THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION AS FAR ARE WE GOING TO GIVE AWAY FREE PASSES OR HAVE YOU BYPASS OKAY IF ALL PARKING LOT IS A 100% AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS PARKING LOTS ARE AT 50% AND NEXT YEAR WE LOOK AT THIS DATA AND FLIPPED. OKAY SO I GUESS WHAT I'M CHALLENGING MY STAFF HERE IS TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN BRING IN SOME DATA REVIEW IS ASKING PCI TO DO A DRIVE AROUND WHENEVER THEY REACH 90% OF THE SURROUNDING PARKING LOTS OF WORK BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE MAKING SOLID DECISIONS DOWN THE ROAD VERSUS GUESSING CERTAINLY THAT WE NOW HAVE IN A VERY CLEAR ABILITY TO GATHER DATA FOR OUR PROPERTIES WHAT WE CAN WORK ON IS DEVELOPING SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN TRY TO IDENTIFY GATHERING SOME DATA FOR SOME OF THOSE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AS WELL FROM THEM. BRING THOSE TWO TOGETHER.

THANK YOU AND ADD ONE MORE THING TO THAT. I ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPILLOVER FROM PARKING TO BUSINESSES AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND IMPOSSIBLE TO CALCULATE BUT BUT I THINK WE WILL RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THOSE AREAS UNFORTUNATELY IT MAY BE AND I AM SUPPORTING THE PAID PARKING PROPOSAL I IT MAY BE A REACTION TO WHAT HAPPENS UNFORTUNATELY AND I GUESS WE'RE LOOKING AT ROLLING THIS OUT IF WE MOVE THIS A TOWN COUNCIL TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTS AN EFFECTIVE DATE WOULD BE SOMETIME DURING THE FIRST PART OF 2024. SO THERE IS SOME SPACE THERE FOR GATHERING COMMENTS BEFORE WE HAVE ACTUALLY DATA FROM THE SPILLOVER AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU START SOMETHING LIKE THIS YOU MAY HAVE TO GO BACK AND SOME TWEAKS TO IT. I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH DATA AT THIS POINT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WITH REGARD TO BUSINESS PASSES.

AND I THINK THE ONE THING THAT'S THIS TIME AROUND THAN ANY PREVIOUS TIME THAT THE TOWN HAS AT THIS IS WE HAVE A TEAM AND WE HAVE RESOURCES THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT AS WE UNDERSTAND THIS DATA WE HAVE THE CAPACITY FLEXIBILITY TO RESPOND IN A MEANINGFUL WAY AS WE MOVE THIS FORWARD THAT THAT TO ME IS WHAT'S DIFFERENT NOW THAN WHAT WE'VE EVER DONE BEFORE AND I CAN JUST JUMP IN WITH REGARD TO THOSE STATISTICS. I MEAN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PLACES THE CONVERSATION WAS GOOD AND A FEW OF THEM PROVOKED SOME MY OWN QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS AND SO I'LL TRY MAKE IT AS CLEAN AS I CAN BUT GOING BACKWARDS A LITTLE BIT WHEN YOU'RE COLLECTING DATA ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE COLONY BEACH PARK AREA, DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE ANECDOTAL OR OTHERWISE TO WHAT THE INTENT OF THOSE FOLKS ARE WHO ARE COMING IN TO THE BEACH THEY PARKING THERE TO GO TO WORK? ARE THEY PARKING THERE ACROSS THE STREET GO GO TO CELEBRATION PARK OR DOWN TO THE BEACH? AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT THEY TOO COULD BE THERE MIGHT BE GOOD QUESTIONS. SO I'M GOING TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF THINGS ONE I WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT TO THE SPILLOVER CONVERSATION YOU OUT AND THEN ALSO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS THE ONLY DEMOGRAPHICS WE'RE REALLY ABLE TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE IS THAT EARLY MORNING TRAFFIC PARTICULARLY COULD LIVE NEAR WHAT WE'RE SEEING ARE RUNNERS AND BIKERS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GETTING OUT IN THOSE EARLY MORNING HOURS AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO CLEARLY SEE THOSE INTENT AS IT GETS MORE INTO THE BUSIER TIME OF THE MORNINGS OR WHEN WE START GETTING FOR AT THAT POINT IT IS MORE ABOUT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE TO THE CUSTOMERS ARE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US SO WE LOSE SIGHT ABOUT THE INTENT OF WHAT THE PARTNER IS DOING ADDING MORE CONTEXT TO THE SPILLOVER WHAT WE ARE SEEING AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER PARTICULARLY ON THE WEEKENDS IS WHEN WE ARE AT CAPACITY WE'RE ALSO SEEING THAT THE BUSINESS SLOTS OVER THERE BY LEGALLY ARE AT AS WELL. THE THING THAT WE SAW DIFFERENT IN THESE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD TRADITIONALLY HAPPEN THIS YEAR IS THE WE'RE NOT SURE WHO HAS TIED TO THE THEY ARE CHARGING $20 IN THAT WHAT WE WOULD CALL A STRIP MALL THE BUSINESS WAS ARRIVED AT BY KILLING ME THEY WERE CHARGING $20 ON THE WEEKEND TO PARTNERS AND THEY ARE CHARGING THIS IT APPEARS THEY'RE CHARGING THIS AFTER THE FACT MEANING CUSTOMER PULLS THE PARK AS THEY'RE

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YEAH NOW AGAIN WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW HOW THIS ORIGINATED HOW LONG IT'S BEEN GOING BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TIE DOWN THAT THIS IS ONLY AT LEAST IT'S ONLY DOWN ON THE WEEKENDS AND IT HAS STOPPED AT LEAST AS OF LATE AFTER LABOR DAY. WE DIDN'T WHEN WE LOOKED AFTER LAST FRIDAY WE DIDN'T SEE THAT HAPPENING BUT THAT WENT ON AT SOME POINT PROBABLY STARTING AS FAR BACK AS JULY 4TH. THEY WERE STAFFING IN SOME CAPACITY ON THE WEEKEND AS WE STARTED AS YOU GUYS STARTED REQUESTING DATA WE GOT INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING THERE'S SPECIFICALLY DOING IT ON WEEKENDS FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

THEY ALSO HOPE AVENUE JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M IN THE SAME LOCATION THAT ALL OF THE STRIP MALLS AND THE SHOPPING AREAS ALONG POLK AVENUE YEAH JUST SPECIFICALLY I GUESS WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO SEE AND LIKE I SAID WE KIND OF STARTED TO GO AND INQUIRE A LITTLE BIT WHETHER IT'S FROM CUSTOMERS BUT WE HAVEN'T TIED DOWN BUT WHO'S THE ORIGINATOR THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS WE'RE ASSUMING IS WHOEVER OWNS THAT PROPERTY THERE BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TIE DOWN THAT PORTION YET. WE'RE JUST KIND OF LOOKING FROM COLLECTING WHERE WE STAFF OFTEN OUT THERE AND JUST LOOKING ACROSS AND AGAIN THE PEOPLE ARE WEARING MAYBE LIKE A SAFETY UBS OR SOMETHING SO IT'S NOT A COMPANY NAME OR ANYTHING ON IT WE'RE JUST KIND OF MORE GATHERING INFORMATION AS WE'RE SPEAKING TO CUSTOMERS, WHATEVER WE CAN KIND OF INQUIRE FOR THE MOMENT THERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT MORE.

BUT AGAIN AS OF RIGHT NOW WE THINK IT IS CUT OFF FOR THE SEASON SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER PATH TO GATHER THE INFORMATION WE NEED THERE TO BE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOLKS. IT'D BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION TO HEAR MORE ABOUT. OKAY. THANK YOU IN TERMS OF I WANT TO GO BACK TO A BASIC QUESTION. WHEN WE SAY BUSINESSES DOES THAT MEAN ANYTHING WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT RESTRICTING IT JUST TO THE CLAYTON AREA FOR OTHER PARK AREAS THE KIND OF WHEN WE SAY BUSINESSES WE REFER TO ANYONE WHO HAS A BUSINESS LICENSE AND AND I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY CAREFUL WITH REGARD TO THAT BECAUSE I CAN IMAGINE SOME POTENTIAL HAZARDS DOWN THE LINE IF IT'S ANYONE WITH A BUSINESS LICENSE, PERHAPS A RENTAL TERM RENTED WITH A BUSINESS LICENSE ARE LOOKING FOR PLACES TO PARK WHEN HAVING ACCOMMODATED THEIR GUESTS ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY. SO I'M JUST THINKING OF THE ISSUES THAT COULD BECOME PART OF THIS ISSUE WITH REGARD TO SPILLOVER, I IMAGINE THAT THOSE FOR SERVICES THAT WE JUST HEARD ABOUT MIGHT GO OUT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE FOLKS WHO ARE PARKING WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T BE PARKING THEM ON PARK NO PARKING STREETS AND ALL THE REST. I'M JUST WHETHER THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS GOTTEN ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF CALLS AND IF SO HOW WE AT THAT I'M LOOKING FOR AN TO HOW THOSE HOW WE ADD THAT INTO OUR THINKING AND I DO APPRECIATE THE STATISTICS HERE FROM FRIDAY AUGUST I GUESS THROUGH LABOR DAY THAT YOU PROVIDED US BECAUSE IT MAY NOT BE A WHOLE PICTURE BUT IT DOES THERE IS A TREND HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT SATURDAYS THE DATA WE EXPECT WHERE THERE'S THERE'S CAPACITY ON SATURDAYS SUNDAY SOME SUNDAYS AND LABOR DAY AND I THINK THAT US A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO GO WILL ALONG WITH AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S THERE FOR BUSINESSES TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY A PERMIT TO PROVIDE AS A BENEFIT TO THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THEN I JUST WANT TO BACK UP AND THE FACT ALSO THAT JOSH YOU SHARED WITH US THAT THE OVERFLOW INTENTIONAL OVERFLOW IS USCCB AND WE DON'T SEE ANY CAPACITY ISSUES THERE. SO THERE IS AMPLE OPPORTUNITY ONCE QUIGLEY BEACH PARK IS FULL FOR ADDITIONAL CARS WHETHER THEY'RE EMPLOYEE CARS YOU PERMIT OR GUESTS WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET TO THE BEACH OR OUT TO DINNER WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING.

OKAY. SO IF I GOT THAT WRONG CLARIFY FOR ME BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S IN MY HEAD RIGHT NOW IS WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT. THE OTHER PIECE NOW I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO WAS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PENALTIES, FINES, THE $25 LATE FEE.

I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS IF THAT REMAINS UNPAID, WHAT IS THE OUTREACH TO THEM TO GET IT PAID WHICH IS ONE PIECE BUT IN MY MIND AT LEAST MAYBE A LITTLE BIT IMPORTANTLY IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO COLLECT AND TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON PEOPLE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND PARKING AND PAYING PROPERLY IS THERE'S AN UNPAID AND THEY COME BACK TO

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SO THERE THERE'S THERE'S OBVIOUSLY ESCALATIONS WHERE YOU'RE IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF NEED TO DO ANYTHING BEYOND JUST ISSUING A CITATION WHETHER A TOWING MOBILIZATION, THOSE THINGS WILL BE HAMMERED OUT THROUGH THE ORDINANCE. BUT YES IN A TRADITIONAL SITUATION WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS WE WOULD SCAN THAT VEHICLE IF IT IS A VIOLATION AND DESERVES A CITATION WE WOULD THEN PRINT OUT THAT CITATION AND LEAVE THAT ON THE DASH AGAIN BASED ON WHAT THE ORDINANCE LAYS OUT AND WHAT THE ESCALATIONS THE ESCALATIONS WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT IF IT THEN WAS THE THIRD CITATION AND THAT WARNS YOU THAT'S HOW WE WOULD PUT THAT CITATION WE WOULD ISSUE THAT CITATION, PUT IT ON THE VEHICLE AND THEN PROCEED WITH OUR TOLLING PROTOCOL WHICH WOULD BE TO OBVIOUSLY PUT A STICKER ON THAT VEHICLE AT THAT POINT IN POINT IN TIME AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THAT CUSTOMER WOULD NOT ONLY BE A PART OF OUR SYSTEM BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE WOULD TOWING COMPANY THAT THAT DATA WOULD BE SHARED WITH THEM SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COLLECT ON THAT IF IT ESCALATED THAT POINT. IS THERE A WAY TO SO WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN THEY PARKS THEY'RE GETTING AN APP AND THEY'RE PAYING THEIR PARKING SEE IS THERE ANY WAY ONCE THAT PAYMENT IS PUT IN THAT ANY OF THOSE ATTACHED FEES BE PAID ? I ASSUME THIS WOULD BE A VERY RARE OCCASION, RIGHT? THAT THIS TYPE OF SCENARIO WOULD HAPPEN. OKAY. I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IS THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR RULES ARE AND THEY FOLLOW OUR RULES AND WE NEVER GET DOWN THIS FAR. BUT FOR THOSE WHO DO AND WE'VE SEEN IT IN THE PAST THE ONLY REASON IT'S A RED FLAG TO ME THEY AND THEY'VE AVOIDED HAVING TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE TOWN AND TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND AVOID PAYING FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO THAT'S AN AREA JUST WATCH IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT ALL TO ME NOW BUT THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS I AM CONCERNED ABOUT.

JUST MAKE SURE THAT OUR POINT IS TO THOSE WHO YOU IT PROVEN RIGHT SO THERE'S THERE WILL BE THINGS PENDING AGAIN WHAT THE VIOLATION IS THERE ALSO BE PART OF THE PROTOCOL IS THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE SCANNING OF THE LICENSE PLATE BUT THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE TAKING PICTURES WHETHER IT'S OF THE PAYMENT SIGN IF IT'S A PAYMENT VIOLATION OR IF THE PERSON PARKED IN THE RIGHT AWAY OR DOUBLE PARKED ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD BE USED TWICE TO COLLECT THAT DATA SO THAT THERE'S THERE'S NOT MUCH OF A ROOM IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE VIOLATION WAS AND, WHY THE PERSON MADE THE MISTAKE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON IT. I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS AN INTEREST IN TRYING TO STATE TO THE TIME LINE THAT PATTY MENTIONED.

SO WE'VE JUST A SOLID GLASS FROM EVERYONE IN TERMS OF AND I INTEREST IN THE STATISTICS THINK A SURVEY BOTH MAYBE AT THE PARKING LOT AND OUT WHAT THOSE INTENTIONS ARE WHERE THOSE GROUPS ARE HEADING IS NECESSARY TO GIVE YOU THE KIND OF INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING BUT IN THE MEANTIME KNOWING IT'S A RESOLUTION AND IT CAN BE CHANGED FAIRLY EASILY WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS AMONG THE FOUR OF US WITH REGARD TO SETTING ASIDE A NEW PERCENTAGE OF THE PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE WITHIN THE PARK TO PROVIDE MORE BUSINESSES ONCE WE GET CLEARLY DEFINED BE ABLE TO PURCHASE IN THE TOWN AND TO ADD A SECOND OF IT TO THEM A ANYTHING ON THAT SPECIFIC ASPECT THAT'S WHERE I KNOW MAKE A DECISION AND TWO THINGS I'M HAPPY TO FUNNEL THAT ONE THEN I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT HONORS BEACH DATA.

I THINK AT THIS POINT WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL ON THE BUSINESS PASSES THAT THE YEAH I'M INCLINED TO WANT TO TAKE SOME ACTION AT SOME POINT OR WHATEVER MITIGATION STRATEGY FOR THE BUSINESSES.

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YOU KNOW I THINK WE'VE RECEIVED THAT DATA IN ANY WAY AS A COUNCIL YET.

OKAY. MEAN THEY MAY BE TO HAVE SOME SIDE CONVERSATIONS AND YOU NOW WE HEAR THE DATA THAT MAYBE THERE'S FOLKS THAT ARE LEARNING PAIN PARKING IS AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS THINKING AS WELL AS YOU KNOW GETTING, YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE DATA ALONG THE WAY SO THIS POINT I'M NOT SURE I'M READY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND MY APOLOGIES I WOULD SAY SO BECAUSE THIS PROCESS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS NOW WE HAVEN'T TALKED IT RECENTLY BUT WE DO HAVE SOME DATA DIRECTLY.

THE BUSINESS OWNERS WE HELD A NUMBER OF BOTH PUBLIC COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS AND THEN PRIVATE ONE ON ONE SESSIONS WITH THEM. SO I CAN TELL YOU AT WHAT WE'VE HEARD PREVIOUSLY IS A CONCERN THAT FOR PARTICULARLY THE ALLEGHENY AREA THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES WHOSE EMPLOYEES UTILIZE THAT PARKING LOT AS THEIR PARKING TO GO TO WHATEVER BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA AND THEIR CONCERN IS THAT BY NOW MAKING IT PAID PARKING WHEREAS IT PREVIOUSLY FREE THAT WILL JUST YOU KNOW COMPOUND ECONOMIC IMPACT NOT ONLY ON THE EMPLOYEE BUT THEN ON THE EMPLOYER AND MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN A WORKFORCE. SO WE'VE HEARD FROM THEM KIND OF VERY CLEARLY ON THAT WHICH IS WHY WE'VE WORKED ON DEVELOPING A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

I THINK STAFF CAN WORK TOWARDS MORE DEFINED SOLUTION WHEN WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE OF OKAY WE WANT TO CREATE SOME KIND OF EXEMPTION PROGRAM BUT WE WANT TO PUT A CAP OF LET'S JUST SAY I'M JUST PICKING A NUMBER OUT OF THIN AIR 100 SPOTS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 100 SPOTS ARE RESERVED FOR GO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT YOU CAN BRING BACK TO US THAT CREATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IF WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT OF IN TERMS OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE AND ULTIMATELY COUNCIL MAY BE LOOKING, I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN CRAFT SOMETHING TO ADDRESS IT. WE JUST GOT TO KNOW WHAT THE TARGET IS THAT WE'RE SHOOTING AT TO BRING FORWARD RECOMMENDATION ABOUT HOW TO ACCOMPLISH IT. AND I ALSO THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS HOPEFULLY GOING TO COME INTO PLAY IS THE TOWN'S ACQUISITION OF THE WILD WING PROPERTY IT'S NOT CLOSED YET BUT WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT AND ASSUMING THAT IT DOES GO THROUGH DUE DILIGENCE AND WE'RE ABLE TO CLOSE ON IT HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE JUST MAKE ALL OR A PORTION OF THAT AREA DESIGNATED AS EMPLOYEE PARKING AND THEN WE DEVELOP A SYSTEM FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOLKS SIGN UP FOR IT. IS IT ON A YOU KNOW, TWO PASSES PER BUSINESS OR IS IT FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE? THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE CAN DO. WE JUST GOT TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT THE THOUGHT OF COUNCIL IS SO THAT WE CAN THEN CRAFT SOMETHING, MEET THAT EXPECTATION AS A REACTION AND INITIAL BASIS IS ALONG THE LINES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

MR. GRUBER THAT WE SHOULD PROVIDE A METHOD FOR BUSINESSES IS AN AREA YOU CAN ABLE THEIR EMPLOYEES TO PARK AND THEIR CUSTOMERS TO PARK CHARGE AS BY REIMBURSEMENT OR OTHERWISE I DON'T KNOW I THINK THE WILD WINGS APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER FOR OFFSITE PARKING I GUESS IS THAT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE SOME DISTANCE FROM THAT WILL NOT PARTICIPATE SO MUCH BUT I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND WHETHER THEY'RE ANY CAP OR NOT. I DON'T SEE THE REASON MAYBE THOSE ARE MY PRELIMINARY REACTIONS AND AS I GENERALLY OKAY YEAH I LIKE THAT APPROACH JUST THINKING ABOUT THE TIMING I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY WOULD AGREE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORDINANCE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT FOR TOWN COUNCIL SOMETIME IN THE FALL SCHEDULE AND AT THE END THE RESOLUTION PARKING RATES COULD INCLUDE SOME APPROACH ON BUSINESSES AND HAVE THAT FOLLOW AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING TIMING WISE. SO BE READY FOR NEXT YEAR AND FD ADOPTING ORDINANCE AND THEN LATER A RESOLUTION WHICH COULD HAVE SOME SORT OF APPROACH ON PARKING AND AND THAT BE ACCOMPLISHED MAYBE TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR OR THE FIRST OF NEXT YEAR. SO WE CAN BEGIN IT BEFORE THE SPRING SEASON NEXT YEAR AND.

SO I LIKE THAT APPROACH. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS IN ADDITION TO THE BUSINESSES

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BUT I BELIEVE THE TOWN HAS HAD SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BUSINESSES AND THE OWNERS DOWN IN THE COLONY AREA. I AM VERY HESITANT TO DESIGNATE ANY PARTICULAR PARKING LOT TO EMPLOYEE PARKING ONLY WE HAVE PARKING CONCERNS AND I MR. ROBOT WILL POINT OUT WHEN HE MENTIONED TO ME OVER THE WEEKEND THAT WE HAVE FOLKS WHO INTEND VISIT HILTON HEAD FROM OFF ISLAND AND WHO WILL NOT ABLE TO FIND A PARKING SPOT IF WE TAKE THAT NEW AND DESIGNATED THE PARKING ONLY FOR THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA WHO THEMSELVES HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THE LAND AND USE FOR PARKING. SO THAT'S A DOUBLE ON THE COMMUNITY THAT I'M UNWILLING TO ACCEPT AND WILLING TO ACCEPT. THERE ARE OTHER USES YOU WILL SEE IT IS STILL OPEN AND HAS CAPACITY. THERE ARE SHUTTLES THAT ARE RUN, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY, THERE AND IF IT'S TRUE THEN BE INTERESTING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS THAT. SOME SOME ENTITY THINKS THAT $20 OF PARKING EXPERIENCE AND THE CLEANING AREA IS SMART THEN THEY HAVE TO APPRECIATE THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR RESIDENTS, OUR VISITORS AND OUR BUSINESSES ALL IF IT'S TIME FOR PAID PARKING TO HAPPEN SO IN A HEAR WHEN YOU PUT FORTH WITH REGARD TO HOW YOU KNOW IN YOUR MIND EARLY FALL IT WOULD BE MOVING ON TO TOWN COUNCIL WE'RE MID-SEPTEMBER THIS IS FALL AND WE NEED TO IF NOT TODAY AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD TOWN COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF THEM SO THAT STAFF CAN DO THE NECESSARY WORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO SO THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOMETHING SO THAT WHEN THE NEXT NEXT IS HERE UPON US WE'RE OUT OF THE RUNNING AND ALL OF AS MANY AS THE KINKS CAN BE WASHED OUT SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE SOME DIRECTION THAT WE CAN AGREE TO TO GIVE STAFF TO BE PREPARED FOR TOWN COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WITH REGARD TO BUSINESS I MEAN THOSE THAT POWER TODAY AND COUNCILWOMAN BRICE AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU MAY HAVE BEEN GETTING AT WITH REGARD TO THE BUSINESS PERMITS BUT WE COULD ALSO CONSIDER INCLUDING LANGUAGE IN ORDINANCE THAT AUTHORIZES BUSINESS PERMITS TO BE ESTABLISH BE A RESOLUTION WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE ORDINANCE TO GO FORWARD IF THAT'S THE INTENT WHILE ALSO LEAVING OPEN THAT AVENUE FOR BUSINESS PERMITS TO BE ESTABLISHED YOU KNOW EVEN IF IT'S NOT RIGHT AT THE START OF THE ENACTMENT OF THE ORDINANCE VIA THE RESOLUTION PROCESS.

YEAH I THINK THAT'D BE FINE AS LONG AS THE LANGUAGE IS VERY ESTABLISHED AS OPPOSED TO SHALL ESTABLISH RIGHT LIKE A CANCER CAN I JUST ASK ABSOLUTELY MADE ON OLIVER'S PAGE WITH I THANK YOU FOR THAT THAT AS WELL I THINK IT'S VERY HELPFUL I KNOW I GAVE YOU A SHORT TIME TO LOOK AT IT BUT IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO ME TO SEE YOU KNOW WE CAN USE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S HIGHER AND THEN ALSO ON THE METERED SPACES I WAS WONDERING HOW MANY HOW MANY TIMES IT WAS 100%.

SO THERE WERE SORT OF THAT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED IN PARTICULAR. I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE I'M NOT SURE WHO'S DRIVING DRIVING A BOAT OR DRIVING THE SLIDE TRAY. I THINK THE NEXT ONE YEAH.

THERE WE GO. SO THERE'S THE YELLOW SHOWING UP.

THINK THAT'S 100% OF THE METERED PARKING BUT I THINK THERE WERE SOME OTHER METERED

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ABSOLUTELY. AND JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT CONTEXT, THEY'RE IN LINE WITH US EARLIER SOME THE INTENSE WE SEE OUT OF ISLANDERS LOT OR WE EARLY ON A LOT OF DOG WALKERS AND PEOPLE JUST EXERCISING OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS WE NOTICED FROM THIS DATA WE COLLECTED HERE WAS ISLANDERS PRIOR TO I GUESS THAT JULY 4TH WEEKEND IT WAS FULL EVERY EVERY EVERY DAY, EVERY WEEKEND ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE FOURTH AFTER THE FOURTH WE NOTICED AND OBVIOUSLY REFLECTED DATA HERE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE RESIDENT SPACES GO FULL WITH THE OF I BELIEVE SEPTEMBER 2ND AND SEPTEMBER 3RD WHICH AGAIN THAT WAS PRETTY SHOCKING NOT ONLY TO THE STAFF WE HAD OUT THERE BUT ULTIMATELY TO THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME UP THERE AS WELL BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE HEARD THE CHATTER THAT TYPICALLY BEFORE.

THE OTHER THING WE NOTICED IS AGAIN YOU SAW SOME OF THE METER SPACES WE DIDN'T GO FOR THERE AS WELL UNTIL THAT LABOR DAY WEEKEND AND AGAIN GOING BACK AS FAR AS JULY 4TH IN THAT TIME PERIOD BEFORE THAT THOSE THINGS WERE FULL AS WELL EVERY DAY ON THE WEEKEND AS WELL.

SO THAT WAS INTERESTING DATA TO US THAT WE DIDN'T GO FULL UNTIL LABOR DAY AT RESPECTIVE LOT BUT AGAIN IT WAS GOOD THAT AGAIN TO THE POINT ARE YOU FOLKS WHO QUESTION THE DATA AND IT ALLOWS US TO SEE THAT TRANSPARENCY AND I JUST WONDER REMIND ME WHEN YOUR SYSTEM WENT INTO FULL EFFECT WAS THAT BEFORE JULY FOURTH FOR THE SYSTEM IS NOT IN FULL EFFECT AT THIS POINT I THINK WHAT DID EVEN IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT YOU MADE THE LAST MEETING WAS WE WITH OUR RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO GET ON TO THESE LOTS OF START DOING MANUAL COUNTS THAT WAY WE WOULD BE ABLE PROVIDE INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN DRIVE IT.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE INFORMATION WITH THE TOWN RIGHT NOW TO MAKE A DECISION ON SOME TREE TRIMMING OR HARDWIRING SOME EQUIPMENT AND THEN WE WILL SEE A HEAVY INFLOW OF DATA THAT WILL BE READILY AVAILABLE. SO WE'LL GET THAT GOING WHEN THOSE DECISIONS MADE.

BUT WE ARE WE WERE TRYING TO DRIVE THE CONVERSATION AND TO THE POINT OF YOU POINTED OUT WE FEEL LIKE THIS ISLANDERS LOT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS NOT ONLY BASED ON SOME OF THE DATA COLLECTED BUT TO YOUR POINT THERE'S NOT A BUSINESS COMPONENT BEING IMPACTED. I THINK WE WOULD LOOK OUT FOR THE RESIDENT MORE PRIMARILY AT THIS LOCATION AND THANK YOU THIS IS OF COURSE THIS QUESTION FOR YOU MR. GRUBER.

ARE WE STILL LOOKING TO ROLL OUT ALL OF THE A PORTION OF THE LISTED SITES AND ONCE THAT THE INTENT CERTAINLY COULD BE AND I DON'T WANT TO NOT DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THE PROGRAM'S FLEXIBLE SO. WE'VE HEARD FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTED BEFORE THE START OF OUR NEXT HEAVY TOURIST SEASON NEXT YEAR.

NOW WHETHER WE PHASE THAT OR WHETHER WE JUST TRY TO ACCOMPLISH ALL AT ONCE, IT'S A POLICY THAT CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, IF COUNCIL FEELS COMFORTABLE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER I THINK AT THIS POINT GIVEN THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AND HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN STRUCTURED IF THE COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL ARE COMFORTABLE GOING AHEAD AND IMPLEMENTING IT FOR ALL OF THE SPACES WE COULD DO THAT. BUT IF THERE ARE CONCERNS AND YOU WANT TO DO A TRIAL OR KIND OF PHASE IT IN, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS WELL. BUT I'M JUST RESPONDING TO THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING AROUND ALL OF THIS RIGHT NOW AS I'M UNDERSTANDING IT DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN YOU WERE ABLE TO GATHER SOME DATA WE WERE FALL FOR THE RESIDENTS AND PULL OUT THE METERS THAT CORRECT RIGHT. BUT ALSO WITH THAT BEING SAID THERE WERE VIOLATORS MIXED IN AND THAT WE HAVE SOME OF THE SOME OF THAT CITATION WARNING DATA THAT WE PROVIDED AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW THERE WERE WE HAD SOME OF THAT GOING ON AS WELL.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, YES, SPACES WERE ALL BUT NOT ALWAYS NECESSARILY WITH THE RIGHT DEMOGRAPHIC OR PURPOSE. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M GOING IS IF WE DO DECIDE TO PHASE I THINK WE NEED TO PUT RESOURCES ON THE GROUND. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE IN OTHER PLACES THAT WE'RE NOT OUT THAT'S THROUGH MANUAL COUNTING OR WHATEVER.

OKAY I THINK THAT HELPS US SEE THE BIG PICTURE AS WE MOVE ALONG BECAUSE MAKE AN ASSUMPTION AND IT'S JUST AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS SORT OF DECLINE AND OUT

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I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BUT THAT'S JUST ASSUMPTION ONE COULD MAKE SO I GUESS MY HAND IS WRAPPED AROUND THIS HOLISTICALLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD PARTICULARLY AS WE START TO TALK ABOUT RATES AND TIMES. OKAY. BUT FOR TODAY I'M OKAY WITH THE SUGGESTION IT MISSES THE POINT AS MENTIONED AS FAR AS PUTTING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY DOWN THE ROAD TO RESOLVE THE BUSINESS PARK IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION NO ONE TO A COMMENT AND THEN YOU'RE WELCOME TO MAKE A BET AS OF JUST NOW BECAUSE IT'S FINISHED I WANTED TO ALSO POINT OUT WITH REGARD TO ISLANDERS UNLESS Y'ALL ARE COLLECTING THE INFORMATION IT'S ANYONE WITH THE APPROPRIATE TESTS AND MAYBE UP TO 25 MORE WHO IS ABLE TO USE ANY SPACE. SO WE CAN'T NECESSARILY CLASSIFY THAT 25 SPACES HAVE BEEN USED I NON PERMITTED CARS IT COULD BE THAT RESIDENT PERMITTED CARS ARE PARKING IN THOSE PARKING SPACES AS WELL SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CLARITY NECESSARILY THERE AND THAT WOULD ALSO MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH REGARD TO THESE THESE NUMBERS.

SO NUMBERS OR ANYTHING WE NEED MORE OF THEM WE ALWAYS DO A RESOLUTION ALLOWS US ACCESSIBILITY FOR THE FUTURE CORRECT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE STAFF HAS PLENTY OF TIME TO TO WORK THROUGH SO IF WE CAN IS ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION OR DO WE HAVE ANOTHER I ALSO DON'T KNOW YOU KNOW I'M I'M I'LL FINISH WITH MY PRESENTATION OKAY SO TODAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT CHARGE US OR THE RATES AS WELL.

SO IF CURRENTLY AS CONTEMPLATED THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES THE PARKING RATES ARE SET VIA RESOLUTION SO WE COULD SEND WITH THIS ORDINANCE TO TOWN COUNCIL A PROPOSAL FOR WHAT THOSE PARKING RATES WOULD LIKE OR SEND THIS ORDINANCE TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THOSE RATES WILL BE SET BY RESOLUTION OF TOWN COUNCIL AT A LATER TIME.

THAT COULD COME FROM THE COMMITTEE AS A RECOMMENDATION IT AND MY HESITATION IS A LOT OF WORK HAS TO HAPPEN IN COMMITTEE THIS IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT APPROVE IT TO TOWN COUNCIL SO THEY CAN BE FULLY BRIEFED AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON WHAT STEPS US WITH ACHIEVING SO THAT THEY'RE AT IS IS MORE QUICKLY AND THEN WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE HERE THERE SO DO WE HAVE A I ASSUME EVERYONE READ THE PACKET THEY SEE THE STATISTICS FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AND I WOULD PREFER TO SEND SOMETHING AT LEAST THAT HAS BEEN WORKED THROUGH, TALKED ABOUT AND UNDERSTOOD TO TOWN COUNCIL IN THAT MOTION COUNCIL THAT I'M HOPING YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING IN YOUR HEAD. ANY THOUGHTS WITH REGARD TO HOURLY RATES COULD OR DAILY BECAUSE IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO BE HOURLY IT CAN BE DAILY.

WE ARE NOT BOUND BY WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN DOING OUR PURPOSE INTENT THINK SHOULD PUSH THIS FORWARD. AND ONE OTHER CAVEAT THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I PRESENT AT WELL BEFORE BEGIN THIS DISCUSSION IS IT'S MY FULL INTENTION THAT THIS BE REVENUE NEUTRAL OR SCENARIO AND BEST CASE SCENARIO IF THERE WERE ANY GENERATION OF EXTRA REVENUE THAT WOULD BE USED TO OFFSET RESIDENTS $15 A YEAR PERMIT FEE FOR PARKING UM AND THEN WHATEVER ELSE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FROM THAT AFTERWARDS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO TO PAY FOR ALL THESE EXPENSES THAT WE ARE INCURRING TO US TO PUSH THROUGH A PARKING PROGRAM. MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE SO SUGGESTED THAT WE CHANGE TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT DO NOT SET THE RATES THROUGH ORDINANCE THROUGH RESOLUTION. NO I THINK WE SHOULD SET THIS THROUGH RESOLUTION SO THAT WE HAVEN'T MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF ONCE ALL OF THE DATA COMES RIGHT BECAUSE WE DON'T

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SO AT THIS POINT THE COMMITTEE IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL AND IF THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO CONDITION ITS RECOMMENDATION OF AN ORDINANCE ON A CORRESPONDING RESOLUTION FOLLOW WITH IT. I THINK THE COMMITTEE IS FREE TO DO THAT AS PART OF ITS RECOMMENDATION MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN. AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS WHAT MR. BROWN MENTIONED ABOUT PHASING BECAUSE I THINK COULD ADOPT THE ORDINANCE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COMMITTEE ESTABLISH A RESOLUTION ON THE PARKING RIGHTS INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF A MAXIMUM DAILY RATE AND THEN INCLUDING A RECOMMENDATION ON PHASING IN YOU KNOW AS WE CAN ADD ABSOLUTELY. AND SO THEN WHAT WE WOULD IF THAT IS THE MOTION THAT COMES OUT OF THIS BODY IS WE WOULD SEND THE ORDINANCE UP TO COUNCIL WITHIN STAFF WOULD ALSO DRAFT A RESOLUTION TO GO ON THE AGENDA WITH IT AND SO THEY WOULD BE TAKEN KIND OF IN TANDEM THAT AGENDA AND I THINK THE QUESTION THE CHAIR ASKING IS THAT IN THE ORDINANCE ON THE TOWN COUNCIL THE RECOMMENDING RECOMMENDATION FOR ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE THEN AND WE HAVE RECOMMENDATION THAT THERE BE A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING RATES WITHOUT THIS COMMITTEE DISCUSSING THE SPECIFIC RATES AND ACTING ON THOSE THEN THE RESOLUTION NEED TO COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMITTEE BEFORE THE RESOLUTION GOES TO TOWN COUNCIL . SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT UP. YOU CAN EITHER HAVE IT GO FORWARD TO COUNCIL WITH A REQUEST THAT IT COME BACK FOR MORE DISCUSSION OR YOU CAN HOLD OFF ON SENDING IT FORWARD UNTIL YOU'VE SEEN THE RATES. PART OF WHAT THE STAFF IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH AND SO IF IT'S A REQUEST OF THE COMMITTEE THAT PREFER TO SEE A RESOLUTION IDENTIFYING THE RATES FIRST THEN WHAT I WOULD SAY IS NOT VOTE ON RECOMMEND THAT THIS MOVE FORWARD BUT IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING WE FEEL THE ORDINANCE SHOULD GO FORWARD AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT COUNCIL IN TERMS OF A RESOLUTION AND THEN MAYBE REQUEST THAT IT COME BACK FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AGAIN THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN TAKE IT UP AND JUST ENHANCE WHAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING IN TERMS OF YOUR LEGISLATIVE WHERE YOU ALL WITH THIS COMMITTEE FEEL MOST COMFORTABLE SPENDING ONE MORE MEETING ON THIS, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SET THOSE RATES IN AS A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL WHEN WE MOVE IT FORWARD I'M OKAY WITH ONE ANOTHER MEETING YEAH I'M OKAY WITH I WANT IT TO LABOR QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THE RATES THAT ARE APPEARING BEFORE US ARE THOSE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. SO AT THIS POINT THE DATA THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS BASED UPON A MARKET ANALYSIS. THIS WAS ORIGINALLY RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CONSULTANT THAT THE TOWN HIRED AND DEVELOPING THE BEACH PARKING MASTERPLAN. THE ELEMENT THAT I THINK IS NOT INCLUDED BUT BASED UPON THE FEEDBACK FROM MEMBERS THIS COMMITTEE IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE HOURLY RATES THAT ARE BASED UPON THE MARKET ANALYSIS WE SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT ESTABLISHING A MAXIMUM RATE TO ALSO GO ALONG WITH THE HOURLY RATES AND SO IF WE CAN DO THAT THEN I THINK WHAT WE WOULD BRING BACK WOULD BE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR SETTING THE RATES.

THANK YOU. BUT WITHIN THE DOCUMENT THERE IS A PARKING RATE DISCUSSION PAGE AND I GUESS SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES SIMILAR TO OURS AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE JUST FOR REFERENCE. YES I'M GOING TO TALK OUT LOUD BEFORE I WOULD TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A MOTION WHAT IF THE MOTION WERE TO SAY RECOMMEND OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED WITH LANGUAGE ADDING THAT THIS LANGUAGE ADDED THAT BY RESOLUTION WE MAY ESTABLISH A TOWN AS PERMANENT ORDINANCE WOULD INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE THAT BUSINESS PARKING PROGRAM

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WE WOULD THEN HAVE THE COMMITTEE MEETING PRIOR TO THE NEXT TOWN COUNCIL MEETING IN OCTOBER WHERE WE COULD BRING FORWARD A RESOLUTION TALK ABOUT IT, YOU CAN FORWARD IT AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO TALK WITH THE MAYOR ABOUT ADDING IT TO THE AGENDA.

BUT FROM A TIMING WE COULD THEN HAVE BOTH OF THOSE TEED UP AT THE SAME MEETING WHEN YOU'RE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND IN CONSIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION OR WE CAN HOLD OFF ON THE ORDINANCE AND WAIT FOR THE TO COME FORWARD BUT THERE'S OPTIONS THERE.

BUT I THINK FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT WE COULD MOVE THIS FORWARD.

WE COULD HAVE IT GO BEFORE COUNCIL AND THEN BRING FORWARD THE RESOLUTION AND PRIOR TO FINAL ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE I GOT RIGHT MY GOAL IS MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LABOR OVER THIS FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS BUT THAT WE ACT IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES TO STAFF AND IT'S A THINGS IN MOTION TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE TIME FRAME THAT WE'VE NOTIFIED PEOPLE THAT WE ARE THINKING OF AND FOR ANYONE WHO'S LISTENING WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE I RECOMMEND AND GOING BACK THROUGH OUR MINUTES BUT THE AGENDA PACKET FOR TODAY HAS A LOT OF THE HISTORY IN THERE THAT YOU MIGHT FIND USEFUL AND WITH ANY QUESTIONS TO THAT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO MYSELF ANY ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS OR TOWN STAFF FOR CLARIFICATION JUST FOR ANYONE WHO MAY BE A LITTLE BIT UNAWARE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST A WHILE NOW SO TWO OPTIONS AND SEE WHAT YOUR MOTION GOING TO SAY.

YEAH IS GOING TO ASK MADAM CHAIR I'M HAPPY TO MAKE IT NOW UNLESS YOU WANT TO ASK IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC DO WE NEED OR DO WE NEED TO HAVE MOTION BEFORE WE ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OR PRIOR TO AT LEAST WHAT WE'VE DONE AT THE TOWN COUNCIL IS TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION IN A SECOND AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO A VOTE BUT I I'M VIEW THAT WE RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR US I DON'T THINK BECAUSE I HAVE A NUMBER ONLY 23 DASH 17 JUST RIGHT NUMBER WITH THE INCLUSION OF LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS FOR BUSINESS PARKING PASSES TO BE CONSIDERED AND THAT THE COMMITTEE CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHED IN THE RATES VOTING AND CONSIDERATION A MAXIMUM DAILY RATE AT OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING AND THAT THE TWO ACTIONS ADOPTED ON FINAL READING AT THE SAME TIME OKAY ALL RIGHT I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY.

BEFORE YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION JUST I DON'T WANT TO GET STUCK WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT OF TALKING TO SEE THIS OUT LOUD I THINK THERE'S A DISCUSSION AROUND YOU REVENUE NEUTRAL OR NOT. OKAY. AND NOW THAT WE HAVE SOME DATA I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT STAFF IS LEAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO US WITH THOSE PARAMETERS IN MIND.

OH THE RATE IS CONCERNED NOT JUST A MARKET STUDY. OKAY SO YEAH I I'M SORRY I SO I ,I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MR. BROWN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW WE SEE THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE, THE NUMBERS OF PARTNERS AND SPACES AND WE CAN MULTIPLY THAT THE RATE AND COME UP WITH SOME NUMBER OF HOW MUCH MIGHT BE EXPECTED COMPARED TO THE COST. I THINK THAT'S A REAL VERY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION AND ONE THAT I GUESS WE'LL PICK UP AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND WHY WE

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NOW MOST OF THE PARKS HAVE A BEACH ONLY BUILT LIGNE CHAPLIN AND I SAW ON THE FIND LIZ FIELD AND LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION MAY HAVE PARKING JUST THE BEACH LIKE GOING TO WORK ATTENDING EVENT OR PLAYING TENNIS SO I SUGGEST THAT YOU COULD USE THE WORD NEAR INSTEAD OF FA SO INSTEAD OF PAID PARKING FOR PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS IT'S PAID PARKING NEAR PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS AND THAT VERBIAGE IS ALSO IN FIRST LINE OF THE DEFINITION SECTION AS WELL.

THERE SHOULD ALSO BE CONSISTENCY OF LANGUAGE FOR WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR RESIDENT PARKING IN SECTION 12 55.6 IT SIMPLY STATES THE TOWN SHALL ISSUE RESIDENT PASSES FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN PROVE PRIMARY RESIDENCY BUT IN SECTION 12 FIVE 512 THERE'S THAT LENGTHY DESCRIPTION WHICH SHE ALREADY WENT THROUGH. SO THEY'RE NOT SO THEY'RE NOT ONLINE SO THERE NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENCY THERE I WOULD THREE WORDS SPECIAL FOR 4% SPECIAL ASSESSMENT RATIO STATE DOES NOT REFER TO IT AS A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ALTHOUGH WE MAY FEEL SPECIAL WHEN WE GET IT TO ONE OF CAMP AND YOU GET A CHANCE CAN YOU PULL THIS OUT SO OR MAC HOWEVER? OKAY THANK YOU JUST SO WE SEE IT AS WE'RE MOVING THROUGH OH OKAY. AND YOU OKAY THERE'S ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY GET CONSISTENT WITH THE OF LIVING ON THE ISLAND YOU HAVE JURISDICTION OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND PURPOSE AND INTENT MUNICIPAL LIMITS OF THE TOWN WITH THE DEFINITION OF THE RESIDENT AND WITHIN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND RESIDENT BEACH PASS AREA SO THE DIFFERENT AREAS JUST HAVE DIFFERENT DESCRIPTIONS OF WHAT IT MEANS TO LIVE IN THE TOWN SO BE CONSISTENT AND LASTLY THE NAMES OF THE DESIGNATED PARKING AREAS ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH ANY ORDINANCE OR HOW ARE REFERENCED IN YOUR TOWN WEBSITE SO EXACT EXAMPLE IS CAST NET DRIVE BEACH PARK IS REFERENCED IN THE TOWN WEBSITE AS BURKES BEACH ACCESS CHAPLIN PARK BEACH IS CHAPLIN COMMUNITY PARK TREES IN FALLING FIELD THE ISLANDERS AND COLONY BEACH ARE MISSING THE WORD PARK AND ADLER BEACH IS ADLER BEACH ACCESS IS LISTED YOUR WEBSITE SO AND THEN ON THE FINAL LIST THERE WERE MORE AREAS LISTED AND WHAT'S LISTED ON THIS SECTION SO JUST LOOKING CONSISTENCY IN THOSE AREAS AND I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY PROVIDE FEEDBACK THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THOSE DETAILS OR COULD I ASK A QUICK QUESTION THE FINE LIST IF I ANY WHAT SUBSECTIONS A 12 DASH 5-5 20 OH WELL THE FINE LIST THAT YOU WERE YOU WERE JUST REVIEWING WITH THE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENTATIONS. OH I'M SORRY DID I SAY FINE I MEANT THE PARKING WRITE URGENT. THANK YOU I WAS OBSESSED ABOUT THE FINE FOR SUMMARY GOTCHA.

UM THANK YOU LATER JOIN US THANK YOU AND FRANK BABBLED FOR THE RECORD WHEN I USED TO WORK I ALWAYS REMEMBERED THE ADAGE THAT PROSPERO SAID ALWAYS UNDERSTAND WHAT PROBLEM YOU'RE ON AND YOU'RE ALSO DEALING WITH A VERY VERY COMPLICATED HERE VERY COMPLICATED BUT THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE TO MAKE CARS COMING INTO A SMALL PLACE TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO PARK SO THEY GO TO THE BEACH.

WELL, ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO A FEW PINES HAD A PROBLEM LIKE THAT. THEY HAD ABOUT 95 PARKING SPOTS AT THE BEACH CLUB AND A FEW AND PLACE AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A CHANGE.

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THE TROLLEY SYSTEM IS MOVING. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ARE GOING THERE AND THE PLACE IS SO WE HAVE A TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT NOW SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE TO MAKE CARS COMPETING FOR A LIMITED SPACE AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE TO SOLVE AND YOU HAVE A TRANSPORTATION NOW THAT WE HAVE IN THE TOWN THAT I WOULD SUGGEST YOU START PEOPLE START SAYING LOOK, LET'S START INCREMENTALLY START GETTING SOME MORE SOLUTIONS BECAUSE IT ISN'T GOING TO GET BETTER 15,000 PERMITS PENDING AND THE ARGENT PROPERTY THEY ALL THINK THAT THEY'RE TO HILTON HEAD AND WHERE IS THEIR BEACH IT'S GOING TO BE IN PAUL BEV HOW ARE WE GOING TO FIT THEM INTO THAT PLACE? WE'VE ONLY BEGUN TO SEE THE BEGINNING OF THE PROBLEM. WE REALLY NEED AN ALTERNATIVE SITE TO PULL IN AND THE AND THE CLUNY BEACH AREA WE TO START THINKING THAT WAY AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A LONG TIME TO GET THERE BUT WE NEED TO START OF IT AND SO I ENCOURAGE THIS COMMITTEE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT PUBLIC POLICY TO CHARGE THE TOWN STAFF. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR TO START THINKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVES AND START GETTING MORE PEOPLE TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE TO GET TO THE BEACH BY BIKE, BY TROLLEY OR SOMETHING ELSE.

ALTHOUGH NOT ALL GETTING SO ANGRY AND THEY COME HERE AND YOU SEE THOSE PEOPLE TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO PARK THAT'S NOT THE EXPERIENCE WE WANT. THAT'S NOT HELPING.

THAT'S A BIG IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO SOLVE AND WE NOW HAVE A DEPARTMENT THAT'S IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH THAT SUPPOSEDLY SO I ENCOURAGE TO USE THEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T WANT BUT FRANCO IS MAKE SOME OBSERVATIONS AND THERE IMPORTANT FOR US TO HEAR AS WELL AS THE OBSERVATIONS MELINDA MADE FOLKS LIVE OFF THE ISLAND WHO THINK THEY LIVE ON HILTON HEAD IS PROBLEMATIC WHEN THEY LOOK AT US AS THEIR BEACH AND WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS FIRST AND FOREMOST AREA AND WHILE WE'D LOVE TO BE ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE AND ENDLESS RESOURCES TO DO THAT WITH WE DON'T AND SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE NEVER FORGET OUR PRIORITY WHILE WE REMAIN WELCOMING TO OTHERS.

AND THAT'S A TASK THAT MAKES IT HARD FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE WE'RE GOOD PEOPLE AND WE WANT THAT TO DO THAT WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT WELCOME LIGHTS AND SPEEDING TO GET TO A DESTINATION ALL OF THOSE NEGATIVE THINGS THAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT CAN BE IN MY MIND RELATIVELY WELL SOLVED BY CREATING THESE PARK AND RIGHT SITUATIONS EMPLOYEES ON TO THE ISLAND CAN LIVE WHEREVER THEY WANT TO LIVE, HAVE THE LIFESTYLE AND HOME THAT THEY CHOOSE WITHOUT BEING FORCED BE CRAMMED INTO AN ARTIFICIAL HOUSING SITUATION HERE ON THE ISLAND THAT DOES NOT DEVELOP INTO COMMUNITY THAT THEY WANT TO BE PART OF . AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE COMING OUT OF THIS AND WHETHER REMAIN REVENUE NEUTRAL OR WE LOOK FOR ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE CREATED WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THOSE DOLLARS BY MIND AND I'LL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE AND TALK ABOUT AND INFLUENCE THAT'S THE SOLUTION WE NEED WE NEED A PLACE WHERE FOLKS CAN PUT THEIR CARS EVEN IF THEY HAVE THEIR BIKES ON THE BACK TOO LONG AND THEY COME DOWN AND THEY GO TO

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I HOPE SOMEONE MADE NOTE OF THEM. I KNOW I JUST SEND YOU A TEXT MESSAGE TO SEND THEM TO ME BUT I WONDER IF THOSE NOT TO BE LOOKED AT CLOSELY PRIOR TO US CREATING AN ORDINANCE I MADE A LIST OF THEM AS SHE WENT ALONG. I CONSIDER THEM TO BE TECHNICAL NOT SUBSTANTIVE AMENDMENTS SO THE MAKE OF THE MOTION WOULD TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THOSE TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS LISTED BY MR. HUNTER TODAY IS A SECOND ONE AGREE WITH THAT AND I THINK WE CAN TAKE CARE OF IT THAT WAY WITHOUT BRINGING IT BACK OKAY WITH THAT JUDGE AND YOU MR. HUNTER FOR HELPING US OUT WITH EDITING. OKAY.

WELL THEN WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE TABLE AND DO WE NEED A ROLL CAM ? ALL RIGHT, WE EMOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL FOR VOTE ? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND RIGHT OR NOTHING AND WE'LL REVISIT THIS AGAIN AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO HELP TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES THAT WILL GO INTO THE RESOLUTIONS. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE'S PATIENCE TODAY I'M GOING TO MAKE A PERSONAL IN TERMS OF MY COMMITTEE AGENDA STRUCTURE IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE GUESTS IN THE HOUSE WHO HAVE COME TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO BE FIRST BECAUSE THEY HAVE GOOD WORK AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR PATIENCE TODAY BUT WE WON'T SET UP THIS WAY AGAIN. AND SO I'D LIKE TO WELCOME

[8B. Fire Rescue Mid-Year Update – Chris Blankenship, Fire Chief]

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHRIS BLANCHETT FIRE TO FOR THE RECORD SO I'M GOING TO START OFF SO THIS WILL BE OUR JANUARY 1ST THROUGH JUNE 30TH REPORT IS ON MIDYEAR I JUST WANT TO START OFF JUST GIVING YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S TRANSPIRED IN THE LAST WEEK HERE ON THE ISLAND. AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THREE STRUCTURE FIRES DISPLACING FAMILIES ACROSS THE ISLAND OVER THE LAST SEVEN DAYS.

SO WITH UNFORTUNATELY LAST NIGHT BEING A FATALITY FIRE HERE ON THE ISLAND AND SEA PINES. SO OUR INVESTIGATORS ALONG WITH COUNTY SHERIFF'S SOUTH CAROLINA LAW ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AND STATE FIRE WERE ON SCENE UNTIL 530 THIS MORNING INVESTIGATING GETTING INITIAL ON SCENE INVESTIGATION DONE. SO THAT'S A THAT'S AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION. I CAN'T REALLY COMMENT ON IT BUT WE DID HAVE A FATALITY FIRE ON UNTIL THAT LAST NIGHT SO IN OUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS VERY SAD NIGHT SO FAMILY MEMBERS WITH THAT I'LL GET INTO OUR REPORT DID YOU ALL RECEIVE A COPY OF OUR MIDYEAR DATA REPORT SENT WITH THE THING SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE DATA IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TO ANSWER THAT SOME OF THE OPERATIONS WE AVERAGE 26 AVERAGE INCIDENTS PER DAY IN THIS TIME FRAME WHICH IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH 2022.

AS YOU CAN SEE WE'RE 15 CALLS FROM 2022 TO 2023. SO SEEING PRETTY CONSISTENT OUR BUSIEST STATIONS SO STATION ONE FOR FIRE WHICH IS THE SHIPYARD STATION STATION SEVEN WHICH IS WHAT YOU CALL THE CROSS ISLAND STATION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT ANYMORE. NOW THE CROSS ISLANDS ARE THE TOTAL THE STATIONS GONE THREE ABOUT SO STATION FIVE THAT'S THE FRONT GATE PLANTATION FOLLOWED BY STATION AGAIN IN SHIPYARD CONSISTENTLY OVER MY 22 YEARS HERE THOSE HAVE BEEN OUR BUSIEST STATIONS TOP FOUR INCIDENT TYPES, FIRE ALARM ACTIVATIONS, UNINTENTIONAL AUTHORIZED CONTROLLED BURNING THAT IS OUR REGISTERED BURN CHECKS THAT WE CAN CONDUCT ON ON SATURDAYS OF BURN DAYS.

SO HUNDRED AND 78 WE DO ABOUT 400 A YEAR SO THAT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT SPOT CONTRACTOR ACTIVATION WITH NO FIRE AND ALARM SYSTEM SOUNDING TO DUE TO MALFUNCTION WHICH I WILL SAY I THINK OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS ESPECIALLY THE MALFUNCTIONING ALARM SYSTEM NUMBERS ARE GOING TOP THREE MEDICAL INCIDENTS IS A VERY GENERIC EMS CALL EXCLUDING VEHICLE ACCIDENT WITH INJURY IS AS OUR TOP OUR MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS WITH INJURIES 117 AND DISPATCH CANCELED

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SO GOOD MORNING JOE. HI MR. DEPUTY CHIEF I WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE OUR BUREAU OF FIRE PREVENTION WE DO SO MUCH THAN FIRE PREVENTION AS PART OF THAT. SO STARTING IN JULY WE'RE STARTING TO REBRAND WHAT WE CALL THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE TO COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION. WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW ON UPDATING THE WEBSITE AND TRANSITIONING TO THAT BUT REALLY AS PART OF OUR ACCREDITATION AS PART OF THE AS PART OF A NATIONWIDE 2024 THE FIRE SERVICE IS TO MOVE TO COMMUNITY REDUCTION AND WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? IT MEANS THAT THOSE FIVE THINGS UP THERE ARE REALLY WHAT WE FOCUS ON EDUCATING WHICH IS EDUCATING ON ALL ALL THINGS THAT ARE RISK ON THE ISLAND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPANDING OUR PREVENTION BECAUSE THAT IS A VERY LARGE PART OF WHAT GO TO ON MEDICAL CALLS WE ARE GOING TO START DOING OBSERVING THE FIRE DRILLS WITH OUR ASSISTED LIVING BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE FIND IN ADDITION TO THEIR MEDICAL CALLS FIRE ALARMS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO THE MOST THERE AND THEN ALSO DOING SOME THINGS ENFORCEMENT WISE AS WELL. WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROGRAM HELP US BETTER CHECK OUR SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND OUR ALARM SYSTEMS. THOSE ARE BY A THIRD PARTY BUT OUR FIRE INSPECTORS FOLLOW ON ANY KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE DONE WITH SYSTEMS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A THIRD PARTY VENDOR TO HELP US TO ORGANIZE AND KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH ALL OF THOSE SYSTEMS SO THAT WE CAN BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE GOT HERE AND THEN JUST THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THAT THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WHAT IS OUR BUREAU OF FIRE PREVENTION RIGHT NOW DOES WE DO THE INSPECTIONS AND PERMITTING THEY ARE PART OF THE FIRE INVESTIGATIONS ON ANY FIRE WE DO THE SMOKE ALARM INSTALLS ON THE ISLAND THAT NEEDS THEM.

WE GO DO THEM BUT OUTSIDE OF THE FIRE SIDE WE ALSO HAVE A VERY COMMUNITY EDUCATION PROGRAM AND TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT RISKS AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE GET DONE WITH OUR DATA EVERY YEAR WE LOOK AT WHAT WHAT ARE WE AT RISK IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR AND HOW WE BETTER PREPARE OUR COMMUNITY TO DEAL WITH THOSE THINGS AND SEE CPR AND A&E EDUCATION IS OF THOSE THINGS AND THAT GOES INTO WE HAD A CARDIAC SAVE AT SEA PINES COUNTRY AND IT IS REALLY A TESTAMENT TO OUR PROGRAM OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS OF ENCOURAGING OUR COMMUNITY TO PLACE AIDS IN THEIR BUSINESSES ,CHURCHES, OUR GOLF CLUBS AND THEY SEE PINES COUNTRY CLUB HAS BEEN IN OUR PROGRAM ALMOST SINCE THE INCEPTION AND THEY STARTED WITH ONE APD THEY ARE NOW UP TO SIX AND AS A PART OF THAT THEY TRAIN THEIR THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO AND SO WE GOT TO GO MEET THE PERSON THAT THEY SAVED BECAUSE THEY GOT THERE AND THEY PUT IT ON HIM. THEY DID CPR AND THEN WE GOT THERE AND TOOK OVER CARE AND GOT HIM TO THE HOSPITAL. SO IT REALLY IS A TESTAMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY REDUCTION PROGRAM AND ALL THE THINGS WE PUT INTO PLACE.

THE DISPATCHER THAT IS ON AND SHOWN UP THERE SHE BASICALLY SAID WHEN SHE ANSWERED THE PHONE SHE DIDN'T TO SAY A WHOLE LOT TO THEM BECAUSE SHE COULD HEAR THEM IN THE BACKGROUND DOING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT SHE WOULD TELL THEM TO DO. SO IT WAS A GREAT DAY TOO TO SEE THE A GOOD OUTCOME TO WHAT WE DO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS ALL.

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OH, ABSOLUTELY PRESENTATION. OKAY. SO I DIDN'T MEMORIZE THE THE REBRANDING I KNOW IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH RISK PREVENTION, COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION AND THERE WAS ONE BULLET THERE THAT TALKED ABOUT INCENTIVES YOU BACK PEOPLE'S LIVES. YES. DO YOU HAVE ANY EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE JUST TYPICALLY THAT IS LIKE A LOT OF THE THINGS WE DO THERE ARE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES OR FOR HAVING ALARMS, HAVING SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS BEEN DISCUSSED MANY TIMES IN THE STATE IS HAVING SOME INCENTIVES GETTING PEOPLE TO INSTALL SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT AT DIFFERENT TIMES OVER THE YEARS AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO A CONSENSUS THAT BUT IT BRINGS THEM IT BRINGS THEIR RATES DOWN BECAUSE THEY ARE SPRINKLER SO YOU KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OVER THE YEARS IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN DO TO GIVE SOME SORT OF INCENTIVE TO WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRED TO HAVE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM? THERE CERTAINLY ARE OCCUPANCIES THAT HAVE TO BUT IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD DO AS A TOWN TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PUT IN SYSTEMS WHEN THEY DON'T WHEN THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IF A BUILDING HAS A SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND IT ACTIVATES THE THAT'S CAUSED AND THE LIFE LOSS IS A LOT LESS SO IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS WE CAN PUT INTO PLACE THANK YOU AND I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN REAL FAST AND FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE BUILDING HOMES AND WORKING FOR REMODELING. I THINK A QUICK AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM TO INSTALL A SPRINKLER SYSTEM SHOULD BE SOME TIME THAT THEY SPEND TO SEE IF THEY CAN FIT THAT INTO THE BUDGET BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY IS YOU ALL HAVE COMMUNITY PROGRAM TO GO OUT INTO THE AND I'M NOT SPEAKING TO YOU AS MUCH AS MAYBE WHO ARE LISTENING TO GO OUT AND HELP WITH FIRE DETECTOR INSTALLATIONS AND I THINK THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY GOOD PROGRAM AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY WHO NEEDS THAT HELP SHOULD SHARE THEM GIVE YOU GUYS A CALL TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT BECAUSE FIRE ALARMS SAVE LIVES AS AND WE'RE ACTUALLY STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THE OUTCOMES FROM ALARMS THAT WE HAVE INSTALLED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR SO SINCE WE STARTED FIRE IN THE STREETS. WE ARE HAVING FIRES THAT THOSE ARE GIVING THAT EARLY NOTIFICATION SO IT IS VERY SATISFYING TO SEE THAT COME TO FRUITION AND I'M JUST GOING TO THROW OUT MY APPRECIATION TO FIRE AND RESCUE ON A PERSONAL NOTE BUT ALSO TO ADD FOR MYSELF ONE OF THE INCIDENTS YOU ALL HAD TO RESPOND TO RECENTLY WAS THE SECOND FLOOR WHERE FOLKS HAD TO MOVE THEMSELVES OUT OF HARM'S AND INJURED. THERE ARE LADDER KIDS AND I GET TO BRING MY OWN TODAY THAT ARE LITERALLY THIS BIG AND FOR ANYONE MY RECOMMENDATION AS AS SOMEONE CARES IS TO BUY THEM THEY'RE NOT EXPENSIVE PUT THEM IN EVERY SECOND FLOOR, THIRD FLOOR FOURTH FLOOR BEDROOMS SO THAT YOU KNOW YOU HAVE AN ACCESS OUT REGARDLESS SIMPLE AND EASY TO DO. I MADE THEM CHRISTMAS GIFTS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO EVERYBODY IN THE FAMILY SO THAT THEY THEM IN THEIR HOMES AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. WE RECENTLY WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THESE CPR AID TRAINING AT FIRE AND RESCUE I HOPE EVERYONE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT AND I KNOW IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC DOESN'T COST ANYTHING AND IT'S AN EASY, EASY PROCESS.

IT'S NOT LIKE USED TO BE WHERE IT WAS HOURS OF TRAINING AS A QUICK AND EASY TUTORIAL AND THERE IS A WHOLE SET OF CONFIDENCE THAT GETS BUILT IN TO SOMEONE WHO'S COMPLETED THAT TRAINING SO THAT THEY TOO WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP IN AN EMERGENCY LIKE WHAT YOU DEMONSTRATE IN A SHOW SO EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND HELP OUT WITH LIVES AND I'M SORRY TO PICK ON THE DEPUTY BUT YOU TALK ABOUT FIRE IN THE STREETS I KNOW YOU

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WE GO OUT AND WE CAN VISIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE TALK ABOUT FIRE SAFETY AND WE SMOKE ALARMS FOR THEM AND WE ALSO HAVE INCORPORATED PUTTING UP THEIR ADDRESSES AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN BETTER FIND THEM AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE AFTER THE FIRE ONCE WE DO HAVE A FIRE WE GO BACK INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ,WE CHECK THEM AGAIN AND WE OFFER TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE FIRE WAS AND IF IT WAS PREVENTABLE HOW THEY CAN HAVE THAT SAME THING HAPPEN IN THEIR HOME SO THEY ARE AVAILABLE. THEY CAN CONTACT OUR OFFICE ACTUALLY THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS PART OF THEIR REBRAND AND THE WEBSITE IS THAT THEY ALSO WILL BE ABLE TO GO AND JUST REQUEST FOR SOMEBODY TO COME OUT AND DO SMOKE ALARMS THERE AS WELL AND I'M SURE YOU DO SOME SORT OF OUTREACH I'M THINKING OF YOU KNOW THROUGH DEEP WILL A GOOD ORGANIZATION TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND CERTAINLY A LOT OF COMMUNITY CHURCHES. SO WE ALSO ANOTHER THING THAT WE DID IS PART OF THE TOWNS PROGRAM WHERE THEY APPLY FOR THINGS TO BE FIXED IN THEIR HOMES AS PART OF THAT THEY ALSO WERE LOOKED AT DO THEY HAVE SMOKE ALARMS AND WE WERE NOTIFIED IF THEY DID NOT SO THAT WE COULD GO OUT AND PUT THEM IN THERE.

BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THE CHURCHES WORKED WITH I KNOW FIRST PRIZE THEY HAVE A A PROGRAM AND WE HAVE ASKED FOR THEM IF THEY GO OUT TO DO WORK ON SOMEONE'S HOME TO LOOK TO BE OUR EYES BECAUSE WE CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE. SO WE DO HAVE SOME PARTNERSHIPS IN PLACE AS WELL RIGHT THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME WITH EDUCATION.

YOUR POINT WITH REGARD TO NOT BEING ABLE TO BE EVERYWHERE I KNOW THAT THIS SLIDE A COUPLE OF SLIDES IT IS WITH REGARD TO BUSINESS LICENSES AND NOW EVERYONE WHO RUNS A HOME NEEDS A BUSINESS LICENSE AND SO I KNOW THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY INSPECT THOSE.

I WORRY ABOUT THEM. I'VE MADE THIS COMMENT BEFORE. I WORRY ABOUT THOSE RENTALS THAT OUR BUSINESS HAS AND DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE. I REALIZE ON OUR APPLICATION THEY CHECK IT OFF IT'S WAY TOO IMPORTANT. SO I WOULD AGAIN ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO THINK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO ENSURE THOSE RENTALS UNITS WHICH ARE BUSINESSES ARE INSPECTED FOR PROPER FIRE PREVENTION EQUIPMENT.

I WOULD GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK. WE WE DID DURING THAT WHOLE PROCESS WE WE DID A LOT TO THE RENTAL COMPANIES AS TO WHERE THEY NEED TO PLACE THEM, HOW MANY THEY NEEDED TO HAVE.

SO I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH WE WERE IN IN EVERY SINGLE HOME THEY IT IT IS BEING RECOGNIZED THEY ARE DOING IT BECAUSE WE DID WE TOOK A LOT OF CALLS DURING THAT AND IF THEY DID NOT HAVE SOMETHING MARKED WITH SMOKE ALARMS AND THE FIRE PART THEN OUR DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL FOLLOWED UP THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE SO .

WE DO PLAY A PART IN IT AND I, I WOULD YEAH I THINK THE COMPLIANCE IS MY WITH YOU HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE ON THE COMPANIES ON THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES NOT THE VERBALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND I DON'T I CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT BUT I WILL SAY WHAT THE NO.

ONE COMPANIES ON THE ISLAND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME THANK YOU FOR THAT AND WE ARE NOT AWARE OF THAT AND THRILLED TO HEAR THAT THAT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ALSO CAME OUT OF THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CARBON MONOXIDE ALARMS THERE AS WELL.

WE HAD A COUPLE CALLS THAT WERE GENERATED BECAUSE CARBON MONOXIDE ALARMS WERE GOING INTO

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SO WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE PUTTING ALARMS IN WHERE THEY WEREN'T BEFORE AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE BEING CAUGHT BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE ORDNANCE .

SO THAT'S GREAT INFORMATION. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION THANK YOU.

I MEAN IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO SAVE LIVES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WITH REGARD TO OUR PROCEDURES AND I APPRECIATE THAT Y'ALL ARE ACTIVE IN THAT. BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THERE MORE THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN OUR PERMITTING WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS TO MAKE SURE THERE IS COMPLIANCE AND I WROTE A NOTE DOWN THAT YOU HAVE A THIRD PARTY VENDOR WHO DOES WELL SO NO SO THERE'S THIRD PARTY VENDORS THAT WITH COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THEY DO THE ALARM INSPECTIONS AND THE SPRINKLER INSPECTIONS AND WE GET THEIR REPORTS IN AND THEN WE PROCESS THE REPORTS AND IF THERE ARE DEFICIENCIES WE FOLLOW UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESS OWNER GETS THOSE DEFICIENCIES FIXED SO THAT THEIR SYSTEMS ARE IN COMPLIANCE. SO THAT'S LIKE WE DON'T DO WE DON'T GO LOOK AT THEIR SPRINKLER SYSTEMS SOMEBODY. THEY HAVE TO PAY SOMEBODY TO DO THAT AND THEN WE FOLLOW UP IF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THEM IT'S THE APPLICANT WHO HAS TO USE A THIRD PARTY VENDOR TO DO THE INSPECTION AND THEN YOU GO AND CHECK. YES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SECOND AND COME BACK TO ME IT HAS TO DO WITH OUR PROTECTION SO IT'S NOT LIKE WHAT ARE WE HAVING FOR LUNCH? WELL WHILE YOU'RE ABOUT THANK YOU. SORRY YOU GUYS ARE GREAT AND THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL OF OUR IT'S SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR US EMERGENCY COMMUNITY PRESENTATIONS THAT IN 13 PRESENTATIONS WITH 430 ATTENDEES AND DISTRIBUTED 1150 PREPAREDNESS GUYS BOTH IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH SO AND I HAD A BUSY FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR AND I WANT COMMUNICATION CENTER ON THIS JUST A LITTLE BREAKDOWN OF THEIR OF THEIR CALL INTAKE WHICH ARE ALL THREE CATEGORIES NOW ONE CALLS NON NONVIOLENT ONE CALLS AND THREE TOTAL CALLS WHICH IS THERE FOR THE YEAR HAVE ALL GONE UP SINCE 2022 ARE STAFFING UPDATES SO WE PROMOTED A BATTALION CHIEF AND STRATEGIC WHICH IS CHRIS BROSTROM IN BACK THERE HE IS REALLY HIM ANGIE PFISTER PUT THIS WHOLE THING TOGETHER HE DOES OUR DATA HE DOES OUR ACCREDITATION HE'S LIKE THE BRAINCHILD BEHIND EVERYTHING WE DO SO I'M A VERY DATA DRIVEN GUY I LIKE NUMBERS LIKE DATA.

I LIKE TO SHOW THE NEED THROUGH DATA. SO HE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.

HE PUT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WHICH WE'LL BE BRINGING TO YOU NEXT MONTH FOR WE STARTED THE STRATEGIC REASSIGNMENT OF TWO CAPTAINS IN THE NEWLY FORMED COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND RECRUITMENT DIVISION. SO THIS REPORT SINCE THIS IS JANUARY TO JULY WILL YOU WILL NOT SEE THAT BUT I WILL IMAGINE IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT IT WILL BE VERY HEAVILY ON CAPTAIN FERGUSON AND JENKINS AND WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE IN THEIR VERY SHORT TIME IN THOSE POSITIONS OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HIRED A FOURTH FIRE INSPECTOR, HIRED A DIGITAL MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST AND WE PROMOTED 12 PERSONNEL WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. WE ONBOARDED 22 NEW EMPLOYEES, 12 FIREFIGHTERS, NINE TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND ONE FIRE INSPECTOR. WE KIND OF LIKE TO GIVE THE BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THEY COME FROM. SO FIVE LOCALLY LIVE IN HERE ON HILTON HEAD TWO AND OUR SKILL BRIDGE PROGRAM WHICH IS A MILITARY PROGRAM THAT LAST SIX MONTHS OF THEIR MILITARY ENLISTMENT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RE ACCLIMATED TO CIVILIAN LIFE SO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD HAS PARTNERED WITH THE MILITARY TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO COME HERE WHERE WE'RE REQUIRED TO TRAIN THEM IN FIELD THAT THEY HAVE CHOSEN AND WE DON'T PAY THEM BECAUSE THEY STILL WORK FOR THE MILITARY AND EVERYTHING.

SO THAT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR US TO TO PEOPLE OUT OF THAT PROGRAM EIGHT WITHIN THE STATE AND THEN SEVEN OUTSIDE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. SO OUR STAFFING WE'RE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD RIGHT NOW ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE ON THE LINE FIREFIGHTERS CHIEF CUNNINGHAM HAS THE NEXT HIRES LINED UP THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR REALLY WE'RE JUST WAITING ON FIRE ACADEMY SPOTS OR THEY WOULD BE HERE NOW LOOKING PRETTY GOOD THERE YOU GO FILLING FOUR VACANCIES IN OPERATIONS ONE AT HIS VERY RETIREMENT ONE PROMOTIONAL VACANCY AND TWO OPEN FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS. WE TODAY OUR NEW MECHANIC STARTED IN WE WILL HAVE OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR THE PART TIME POSITION TO HELP TOM DUNN WITH HIS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DUTIES AND JANUARY WE WILL BE

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AND THE ONLY REASON WE'RE WAITING TILL JANUARY IS BECAUSE THEY'LL ALLOW US TO GET SOME MORE GUYS THROUGH CLASS, THROUGH PARAMEDIC SCHOOL AND OUR BOARD AND RECEPTIVE SO SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR WE IMPLEMENTED OUR FIRE RESCUE CHAPLAIN PROGRAM A COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP WITH FOUR LOCAL CLERGY MEMBERS SO JUNE WILKINS FROM CHRIST LUTHERAN CHURCH SHE'S SHE'S KIND OF IT UP FOR US ABSOLUTELY JOHNSON FROM CENTRAL GROVE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, RABBI BLUM FROM THE CONGRESSIONAL THE AM AND THE MCCUTCHEON FROM HILTON HEAD PRESBYTERIAN. SO WE'VE BROUGHT THEM ON, WE'VE ONBOARDED THEM. THEY'VE COME TO SOME TRAININGS THEY WILL DO OUR CEREMONIES AND THEY'LL REALLY JUST BE OUR OUTREACH FOR ANY OF OUR MEMBERS THAT NEED TO TALK TO SOMEONE THAT DON'T OTHERWISE HAVE ANYONE. SO IT'S BEEN A VERY GOOD PROGRAM AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUATION OF THAT. SO WE DID COMPLETE OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP AND DRAFT THE NEW STRATEGIC PLAN OPEN ASK QUESTION ABSOLUTELY.

SO JUST TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WE'VE HAD SOME INCIDENT PROBLEMS LOSS OF LIFE, LOSS OF ALL OF YOUR LIFE BECAUSE OF DISPLACEMENT.

I'M JUST CURIOUS DOES THIS CHAPLAIN PROGRAM PLAY ANY PART HIS VOICE CONNECTING FOLKS WITH THE FORCES OF THE AGENCIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE CAMP UNTIL THEY'RE BACK ON THEIR FEET? NO, THEY DON'T. WE DO SO AS AS PART OF THAT.

SO WE'RE ON SCENE LIKE THE FIRE WE HAD IN YAAKOV WE WE IMMEDIATELY CALL RED WE GET THEM IN TOUCH WITH SELF HELP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT SO THE CHAPLAINS DON'T PLAY A ROLE IN THAT BUT WE AS ON SCENE RESPONDERS AND OUR ALL OF OUR STAFF TO USUALLY COME IN WE PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES AND GET THEM THROUGH THE FIRST FEW DAYS AND GET THEM CONNECTED THOSE TO THOSE AGENCIES SO IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE THEY WILL RESPOND TO THE SCENE IF WE IF WE HAVE SOMETHING AND SOMEONE WANTS TO TALK TO SOMEONE WE WILL COORDINATE IF THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC RELIGION THEY WANT WE'LL DO THAT IF THEY DON'T REALLY MIND WE'LL JUST HAVE SOMEONE COME OUT. BUT THEY'RE THERE FOR OUR MEMBERS AND FOR OUR OUR VICTIMS OF FAMILIES ANNUAL COMPLIANCE REPORT WAS APPROVED THE COMMISSION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY EXCELLENCE THAT IS OUR ANNUAL COMPLIANCE REPORT FOR ACCREDITATION.

SO WE UPDATED THE TOWN'S EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN PUBLISHED NEW EMS PROTOCOL MANUAL THAT IS OUR GOVERNING DOCUMENT FOR OUR PARAMEDICS OR COMMUNICATIONS CENTER RECEIVED PROGRAM TRAINING PROGRAM CERTIFICATION OUR DISPATCH CENTER IS NOW ONE OF 93 CERTIFIED AGENCIES AND ONE OF ONLY THREE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.

THAT'S THROUGH THE GO AND WE WERE AWARDED THE FIRE SAFE SOUTH CAROLINA DESIGNATION FOR THE FOURTH YEAR SINCE ITS INCEPTION SO IF WE'RE A FIRE SAFE COMMUNITY SOME OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WE COMPLETED PRETTY HEAVY AND FLEET MAINTENANCE THIS YEAR SO WE GOT A NEW LIFT WILL ACCOMMODATE OUR LARGER AMBULANCES A NEW TIRE CHANGING MACHINE THAT ALLOWS US TO SERVICE THE TIRES ON ALL OUR VEHICLES.

PREVIOUSLY WE HAD TO USE A THIRD VENDOR FOR ALL OF OUR FIRE TRUCK TIRES.

WE CAN NOW DO ALL THAT STUFF IN-HOUSE AND AS ALWAYS EVERY YEAR WE PARTNER WITH PRODUCE INSTALL TWO NEW HYDRANTS THIS YEAR SWAB OPEN THE PIPELINE I'M CURRENT INITIATIVES WE'RE IN THE FINAL OF FINDING A NEW COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM WHICH IS OUR CARD WHICH IS THE MACHINE THAT TAKES CALL AND SPITS OUT WHO'S SUPPOSED TO GO AND SENDS IT ALL OUT TO US SO.

THAT ACTUALLY WILL BE AMAZING FOR US. STATION ALERTING IS ALSO A PROCESS THAT IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY. ALL ALL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN COUNTY ARE GETTING STATIONED LEARNING. WE'RE ACTUALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT ALREADY HAS IT BUT OURS IS ON THE THE TAIL. WE'VE HAD IT FOR 20 YEARS SO WE WILL BE PARTNERING WITH THEM THROUGH COUNTY MONIES. SO NONE OF THAT THAT COMES FROM US ON THE ADOPTION IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR RESCUES 2024 JOINT STRATEGIC PLAN AS I TOLD YOU WILL BRING FORTH TO YOU NEXT MONTH I WILL TELL YOU OUR OUR THREE BIG INITIATIVES ARE GOING TO BE STAFFING, DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND OUR APPARATUS REPLACEMENT. THE PUMPERS IN PRINCE SO TENTATIVELY IT'S BEEN A LONG AWAITED ARRIVAL. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

BUT IN DECEMBER WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET OUR FOUR PUMPERS JANUARY THE NEXT FOUR PUMPERS AND IN MARCH OUR TWO POINTS EGGERS CROSSED. SO ASPEN BROWN LAST TIME YOU ASKED ME TO NOT ONLY COME TO YOU WITH ALL THE GOOD BUT COME TO YOU WITH THE BAD SO.

HERE'S THE BAD. SO ON JULY 4TH, UNFORTUNATELY ENGINE ONE WHICH IS ONE OF OUR AERIAL DEVICES ONE OF OUR CLIENTS WAS INVOLVED IN A COLLISION ON BOTH AVENUE THIS IS THE TRUCK AND WE WILL PROBABLY NEVER SEE THIS TRUCK AGAIN.

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SO WE ARE WITHOUT AN AERIAL ON THE ISLAND. WE WE HAVE THREE ON THE ISLAND EVERY DAY SINCE JULY 4TH WE RUN WITH TWO THEY'RE IN A BACKUP PUMPER SO STILL ABLE TO PROVIDE PROTECTION EVERYTHING OUR AND OUR AMBULANCES SO THERE'S ONE COMPANY THAT MAKES AIR CONDITIONERS FOR THE PATIENT COMPARTMENT OF AN AMBULANCE. IT'S CALLED THE MEDIC.

SO WITH THE HEATWAVE ACROSS THE NATION THIS YEAR A LOT OF THOSE ACS THAT ARE JUST RUNNING OVERBOARD HAVE GONE OUT OF SERVICE WHATEVER REASON. SO WE KEEP TWO SPARES THOSE TWO SPARES WE HAVE PUT IN OUR FRONT LINE AMBULANCES AND WE'RE WAITING ON THE OTHER ONES TO GET FIXED. THE COMPANY IS TELLING US 3 TO 6 MONTHS TO GET ACS SO THAT'S ONE PICK UP WE'RE KIND OF RUNNING WITH RIGHT NOW. WE DO HAVE PLAN IF WE CAN'T GET THEM WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. BUT BY STATE LAW YOU CANNOT RUN AN AMBULANCE IN THE STATE WITHOUT HEAT OR AIR IN THE BACK OF THE PATIENT DEPARTMENT.

SO SO FAR SO GOOD WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TO KIND LEARN PLUMBING FROM SOME OTHER ONES AND GOT ONE BACK WORKING SO THAT'S THAT'S DEFINITELY CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND THAT WE COULD SEE AND THEN THERE'S JUST THE CONTINUED DELAY IN THE APPARATUS REPLACEMENT SO I WILL TELL THAT OUR CHILLER TRUCKS ARE UP FOR REPLACEMENT IN 2028. OUR TILLER TRUCKS ARE TRUCKS SO THEY ARE 1980S FIRE APPARATUS THAT WAS SENT TO A VENDOR TO REFURB TO MAKE NEW LIKE AND THAT'S HOW WE BOUGHT THEM PREVIOUSLY. SO THOSE TRUCKS ARE PROBABLY ABOUT $3 MILLION APIECE BUT WE DON'T FEEL WE TO HAVE A NEED FOR TILLAGE TRUCKS ANYMORE.

OUR QUINCE OUR LADDER TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE EVERY DAY ARE RUNNING THE TIGHTEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY CAN GET AROUND JUST FINE.

SO OUR PLAN IS TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM THE TRUCKS WHICH ARE A LOT EXPENSIVE THAN A REGULAR AERIAL AND REPLACE THEM WITH REGULAR OLD TRUCKS LIKE OUR POINTS SO WE RIGHT NOW ANY AERIAL FROM ANY MANUFACTURER IS A33 YEAR BUILD SO I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A HEADS UP HERE FIRST THAT I WILL BE PRESENTING TO MART FOR THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR TO GO AHEAD AND REPLACE OR AT LEAST HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR OUR OUR AERIALS. FORTUNATELY FOR US CAMI, WHICH IS OUR PREFERRED VENDOR THAT WE JUST GOT OUR OTHER TRUCKS FROM THEIR SPEC THAT THEY'RE BUILDING RIGHT NOW WHICH MEANS THEY JUST BUILD TRUCKS AND WHEN THEY COME OFF THE LINE THEY JUST SELL THEM TO ONE. THEY'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING TWO AERIAL TRUCKS TO OUR SPEC SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WITH THE PASSING OF THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR WE CAN GO AHEAD AND EARMARK THOSE TRUCKS TO HOPEFULLY GET IN 2026 WHICH WILL ACTUALLY BRING US UP TO YEAR.

SO A LITTLE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL HOPEFULLY THERE BUT WE WILL HAVE A NEED FOR THE TO REPLACE THOSE TWO TRUCKS CURRENTLY. THE LAST THREE YEARS WE SPENT $465,000 JUST IN REPAIRS. SO EVERY TIME IT SEEMS LIKE THOSE LADDERS GO UP.

SOMETHING BREAKS LAST NIGHT ON THAT FIRE WE PUT THERE WE PUT THE AERIAL LADDER UP AND IT BROKE. SO MAINTENANCE WAS OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT FIXING IT TO JUST GET IT DOWN. SAME THING ON ON SATURDAY AT THE PARADE IT'S JUST THE ALL THE LINES, THE ELECTRICAL AND EVERYTHING IN THERE, YOU KNOW, 40, 30, 40 YEARS OLD NOW.

SO WE CONSTANTLY KEEP THEM UP AND JUST A CONSTANT WORK IN PROGRESS BUT THAT THAT IS OUR BIG CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW IS KEEPING OUR AERIALS ON THE ROAD SO WITH THAT I ASK IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I HATE TO END ON A BAD NOTE BUT I WOULD HAVE RESPONDED I WOULD WOULDN'T DESCRIBE IT AS BAD AND WE'LL SEE YOU APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO US.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, I CAN REMEMBER WHEN FIRE AND RESCUE WAS NOT EVEN A IT OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD. OKAY NOW HERE WE ARE WITH A LEVEL OF EXPECTATION YOU GUYS ARE CONTINUOUSLY PROVIDING GREAT SERVICE BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AS A AS A POLICYMAKING GROUP AND ALSO AS A COMMUNITY THAT THAT COMES AT A COST.

YEAH, THINGS HAPPEN. OKAY. WHILE IT'S GREAT FOR US TO TELL THE STORIES AROUND, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THERE ALL RIGHT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THESE THINGS TO OUR ATTENTION AND WE'RE JUST MORE CONSCIOUS AS WE LOOK AT OUR BUDGETARY ITEMS ONE INTO OUR NEXT FISCAL.

SO I WOULDN'T CONSIDER IS BAD I LOOK AT IT AND THINK AND I THINK I THINK THAT I MEAN I WILL TELL WE AND WE HAVE BEEN WE'RE VERY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR TRUCKS I MEAN WE COULD BE BUILDING I LOOK AROUND EVEN OUR OUR REGION IN THE TRUCKS THAT THEY'RE BUILDING ARE JUST ARE CRAZY NICE BUT IT'S JUST IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT WE'RE VERY

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YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $1,000,000 DIFFERENCE PER TRUCK SO I JUST I MEAN EVERYONE LOVES TILLER'S WE'LL HAVE NO PROBLEM SELLING THEM BECAUSE EVERYONE IS GOING TO THOSE BUT IT'S JUST NOT TO ME IT'S NOT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND IT'S IT DOESN'T OUR COMMUNITY ANY BETTER TO TO HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT WHAT IS A TILLER VERSUS SO A TILLER IS A TRACTOR DRAWN AERIAL IT'S IT'S THE TRUCK THAT YOU DRIVE YOU GOT LIKE THE TRACTOR UP FRONT BUT THEN YOU GOT THE TRAILER AND THEN IT'S GOT THE DRIVER IN THE BACK SO THE DRIVER IN THE BACK STEERS THE REAR WHEELS AND IT JUST GETS YOU IN TIGHTER, TIGHTER SPACES .

BUT OTHER THAN THAT THERE'S ZERO FUNCTIONALITY DIFFERENCE. THE LADDER IS THE SAME LENGTH SAME SAME AMOUNT OF SPACE JUST A TIGHTER LAKE CITY CHARLESTON DOWN ON THE PENINSULA.

THEY NEEDED TILLER TO GET AROUND DOWN THERE. WE DON'T HAVE WE THOUGHT WE HAD THOSE KIND OF STREETS BUT WE CAN GET THESE TRUCKS AROUND JUST FINE.

AND TO FOLLOW UP, I DON'T SEE THE PREVIOUS SLIDE A NEGATIVE EITHER QUITE HONESTLY I THINK WHAT IT SHOWS IS IS GREAT INSIGHT TO ALL OF THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU HAVE THE WORK THAT YOU DO BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU NEED TO SUPPORT BUT WE KNOW AND CAN SEE THAT YOUR EYES ARE ON THAT AND A KNOWING I DON'T SEE IT AS A NEGATIVE AT ALL WELL AND I THINK YOU ALL ARE WE HAVE I TELL MY PEOPLE THE TIME ACTUALLY INTEL CHIEFS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE IN THE COUNTRY THAT THAT WE ARE VERY VERY VERY WELL SUPPORTED BY BY OUR BY OUR COUNCIL BY OUR COMMUNITY. SO I COULDN'T IMAGINE DOING THIS WITHOUT THAT SUPPORT. SO I THINK YOU AND WE CAN SAY ANYTHING OKAY A COUPLE WELL I REMEMBER MY EARLIER QUESTION BEFORE THAT YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN STAFFING AND YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT JUST NOW THE UPCOMING BUDGET.

SO I KNOW THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS HIRED AS A RESULT OF OUR LAST BUDGET ADOPTION. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHATEVER THAT REQUEST IS.

BUT I ALSO WONDERED IF YOU SHOWED A SLIDE THAT HAD THE NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO LIVE ON HILTON HEAD AND SOMETIMES A PERSONAL CHOICE AS TO WHO WANTS TO LIVE WHEN.

I TOTALLY RESPECT THAT BUT I KNOW THAT FOR CHERYL'S WE PROVIDE A HOUSING AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ALSO A NEED FOR A HOUSING SUBSIDY FROM FARREN YEAH, MY STAFF AND IF SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED AND WE PROBABLY WILL CONTINUE TO ALWAYS TALK ABOUT EVERY TIME OUR CLASS AND COUNCIL STUDIES COME UP WE TALK ABOUT IT.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A BENEFIT TO IT. I KNOW YOU KNOW MOST OF MY STAFF WITH THE EXCEPTION OF US TO LIVE OFF ISLAND AND AGAIN IT'S A CHOICE BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ARE WITH WITH THAT STRATEGIC REASSIGNMENT OF THE TWO CAPTAINS AND FOR THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH ARE GOING TO BE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND LOCAL APPLICANTS.

SO WE ARE IN THE SCHOOLS WE'RE WE'RE IN WE'RE IN THE HIGH SCHOOL.

WE'RE GOING TO START IN A MINUTE. WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION OUT OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND START BUILDING THIS PIPELINE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CADET PROGRAM HOWEVER THAT LOOKS TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE THAT ARE BORN AND RAISED HERE THAT WANT TO COME UP AND LIVE AND WORK ON HILTON HEAD. SO THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE GEARING FOR BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, SOMEONE MOVING SOMEWHERE ELSE WE'RE PRICED OUT OF THE YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING MARKET NOW I THINK NORTH POINT IS GOING TO BE IS TO HELP SOME STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I JUST FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN HERE, YOU KNOW, MAKING, YOU KNOW, $52,000 A YEAR THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE ON UNLESS THEY HAVE TWO OR THREE ROOMMATES. SO SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD I DON'T KNOW IF IT ALL SO BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT HAS HELPED IS OUR YOU KNOW OUR SALARY INCREASES AND OUR BENEFITS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR I MEAN WE STAY COMPETITIVE WITH THE WITH THE AREA SO I THINK THOSE THINGS DEFINITELY HELP SO I APPRECIATE THAT COMMUNICATION LINE GOING AND MY OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU OR FOR DEPUTY CHIEF IS ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND HAVING TO DO WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS WITH LOTS OF BEDROOMS LIKE SIX OR SO THAT WERE LIKE TWO BEDS SO IN THINKING ABOUT BECAUSE THIS COMMUNITY ALSO IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATION AGAIN I THINK AT SOME POINT AFTER WE GET MORE DATA AND THAT IS AT WHAT POINT DOES IT MOVE FROM BEING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO MULTIFAMILY, A COMMERCIAL OR BUSINESS SPACE AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS CERTAIN KIND OF SMOKE ALARMS INSTALLED IT BY NUMBER OF BEDROOMS, NUMBER OF BEDS AND IS THERE SUCH A THING THAT MAKES IT HAPPEN THAT WAY? SO THAT'S A HARD IF I'M ASKING A HARD QUESTION THAT WOULD BECAUSE REALLY IT I THINK SOME

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YEAH, SO ON. AND I BELIEVE I WITH THEM WRONG BUT THE STATE VIEWS IT AS IF IT'S BUILT AS A HOUSE. IT'S HOUSES IT'S HOUSES AND UNFORTUNATELY THE FIRE SERVICE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE STATE TO HAVE YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL SPRINKLER ORDINANCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT PUT IN. IT'S JUST BEEN IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE HERE AND AND THE HOMEBUILDERS, THEY ARE THE BIGGEST LOBBYIST'S PROPONENT AND NOT HAVE THE SPRINKLERS IN BECAUSE THE THE CODES THAT WAY THAT THEY ARE WRITTEN REQUIRE RESIDENTIAL TO HAVE SPRINKLERS BUT WHEN THE STATE DOES THE ADOPTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL CODE THEY TAKE OUT THAT SECTION SO YOU KNOW SPRINKLER SYSTEMS HAVE COME A LONG WAY AND DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE HOME THAT PLAYS INTO TYPE OF SYSTEM IS NEEDED AND YOU KNOW SO FOR YOU THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT HOME IT REALLY ISN'T THAT EXPENSIVE BECAUSE YOU CAN USE YOUR YOUR PLUMBING SYSTEM IT'S WHEN YOU START TO GET SOME OF THE BIGGER HOMES THAT IT DOES BECOME MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THEY START TO GET LOOKED AT AT THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND NOT IN THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. SO BASED ON SQUARE MORE THAN OCCUPANCY IS SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HEIGHT IT'S LIKE AND FOR US A LOT OF OUR HOMES GO UP INSTEAD OUT SO AND WE CAN'T CONTROL THOSE THINGS BUT WHAT CAN CONTROL IS WE THIS LAST YEAR WE'VE TRANSITIONED TO WE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RESPONSE FOR UNDER ANYTHING OVER 3500 SQUARE FEET WE SEND IT AS A COMMERCIAL WHICH GETS AN ADDITIONAL ENGINE SO EVERY TIME WE GO TO A BUSINESS A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE WE HAVE A RESPONSE TYPE. ANY TIME WE GO TO A SMALLER HOME WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE WHILE THOSE LARGER HOMES WE SEND THE COMMERCIAL RESPONSE TO JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT JUST THE SHEER MAGNITUDE AND I'M JUST THINKING ON THE PREVENTION SIDE ESPECIALLY WHERE SEE THESE I CALL THEM HORROR STORIES OF OCCUPANCY SO VERY MUCH TO GO TO THAT POINT I THINK THE FLOOR RATIO THAT WE'VE RECENTLY DISCUSSED WILL HELP OUT WITH SOME OF THAT BUT ALSO WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE HERE. IT'S THOSE EGRESS INGRESS WINDOWS, RIGHT? SO SOMETIMES WHEN SPACES WEREN'T DESIGNED AS A BEDROOM WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A BUILDING CODE A SPECIFIC SIZE INGRESS AND EGRESS WINDOW TYPE THAT'S I THINK THAT THE MISSING ELEMENT TO SOME DEGREE OF THIS IS IMPORTANT.

BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO NOT MENTION THAT BECAUSE WE DO SEE BEDROOMS BEING CREATED EVERYWHERE IN SOME AND ALSO THE YOU MENTIONED FLOORS AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT WE KNOW THAT IF YOU GET ABOVE THREE FLOORS CORRECT THEN THERE'S A REQUIREMENT AS I UNDERSTAND IT ANYWAY THAT THERE IS A SPRINKLER SYSTEM, IT'S SQUARE FOOTAGE AND I THINK WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE HEIGHT AND SO WHEN THAT WHEN THAT EXTRA FLOOR IS ESSENTIALLY OPEN SPACE WITH AN ELEVATOR SHAFT OR ROOM DOES THAT COUNT TOO OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE A FULL IN THE

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THANK YOU FOR ALSO BEFORE I FORGET AND I'M GOING TO OUT IF YOU ALL ARE DONE FOR THE 911 REMEMBRANCE CELEBRATION BEAUTIFUL JOB WELL DONE. CAN'T WAIT TO LOOK FORWARD TO SEE WHAT YOU DO NEXT YEAR. YOU NEED OUR HELP WITH THAT. LET US KNOW YOU ACTUALLY RECEIVED A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON IT TOO. I'M GOING EVERY YEAR THINKS OF YOUR ANNIVERSARY OF YEARS THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS ANYWAY OKAY WE STAND ADJOURNED

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.