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WELL, SINCE YOU STAY HERE I GUESS WE'LL JUST PASS ON THAT ONE AND FOLLOW UP AND TRY TO

[6. UPDATE ON THE DISCUSSION ABOUT COORDINATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY NEW/OTHER BUSINESS]

GIVE YOU AN UPDATE MONTH UPDATE ON THE DISCUSSION ABOUT COORDINATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY HOLD BUSINESS THAT WAS GOING TO BE A COUNTY SCHOOL STUDY AND WE'RE TALKING THE ISSUE OF CONSOLIDATION OF OUR HOUSE AND EMS SERVICES. ANY UPDATE OR ANY FURTHER INFORMATION ON THAT OR A SHORT UPDATE ON THE PROJECT BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY IN THE USE OR THE STUDY AS DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR A FIREARMS FACILITY LOCATED OUR CURRENT FIRE HEADQUARTERS STATION ONE. SO THAT WOULD BE RELOCATION OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE SERVICES FOR THE EMS SERVICES ON THE ROAD COMBINING WITH OUR FIRE SERVICES AT OUR HEADQUARTERS BUILDING. SO THIS IS STEP ONE OF THE PROCESS. WE WILL BRING IT TO OUR COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL BY SEPTEMBER 12TH AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH COUNTY AS WELL ARGUMENT THROUGH COMMITTEE SO OKAY THANK YOU. I QUESTION YOUR COMMENTS. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY AND THANK OUR STAFF AND THEIR STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS MORNING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR A WEEK. IT MAKES IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND WE OFTEN ABOUT THE JOINT FIRE DEPARTMENT WE HAVE WITH THEM FOR ON HOW WE'RE ABLE TO DELIVER A MUCH HIGHER QUALITY OF SERVICE FOR A MUCH BETTER VALUE THAN WHAT NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED ALONE.

AND I THINK THE SIMILAR TRAJECTORIES HAPPENING WITH FIREARMS SO I THINK IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK IN THE HISTORY WITH THIS COMMITTEE TO THE FIRST MEETING YOU WOULD PROBABLY FIND OUT IT WAS A AGENDA ITEM BACK THEN. I CAN ASK ITEMS IT'S BEEN FOLLOWING ALONG FOR AS LONG AS STUFF THAT'S SCRAP HAS BEEN AROUND ALL RIGHT I KNOW THERE ALL RIGHT THAT I SEE MARY STEP ONE OH THERE YOU ARE. WE HAD JUST OVER HERE.

[5. UPDATE ON EX-OFFICIO MILITARY SEAT ON COMMITTEE]

OH, PERFECT. IS THAT PERFECT THAT WE JUMPED OVER.

YEAH. EVERYTHING YOU WANT BY WAY OF ON THAT AREA.

YES WE ARE ABLE TO AT THE EXHIBITION MEMBER IT'LL PROBABLY USUALLY BE MYSELF OR DAVE TRAIL IN THE TRAIL SO THE CEO OR HIS REPRESENTATIVES AND WE ARE DEFERRING WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT BASED ON THAT MEMBERSHIP.

SO DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT NOW AS I MAKE A DECISION ABOUT ALLOWING THAT OR WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE DISSOLUTION OF I THINK PROBABLY APPROPRIATE TO TALK ABOUT THOUGH OUR LAW COUNCIL IS GOING TO CONSIDER STANDING DOWN OF THE STANDING UP OF OUR NEW PLANNING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 12TH. IT'S BETTER TO THE EMBASSY TWICE NOW OUR STAFF WORKING ON FINE TUNING THAT ORDINANCE TO GET IT OUT OF COUNCIL A COUPLE OF READINGS SO WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MONTH OR SO WORTH OF FORMAL PROCESSES THEN AFTER FIVE MEMBERSHIP AND A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS BUT I IMAGINE IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME HERE TO ADDED AS AN EX-OFFICIAL I'M CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF OF ADDING MILITARY AS A EX-OFFICIO SEAT AND HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO BE A STANDING ITEM ON THIS AGENDA IF EVERYBODY THINKS IT'S APPROPRIATE OKAY DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THAT NOW OR WHEN BEFORE THAT? I THINK WE ACTUALLY THEY'RE NOT LISTED AN EX-OFFICIO IN THE ORIGINAL OR ARE THEY IN THE HOUSE I MEAN A REPRESENTATIVE TRY TO REMEMBER ED I CAN'T REMEMBER WHY THEY WERE LISTED AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SO WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THEM BEING AN EX-OFFICIAL WE'VE JUST GOT A MEMBER ASIDE SO I GUESS THEY BOTH WOULD REALLY TO CHECK EVEN AS THE NPC SHUTS DOWN FOLLOWING MONTH AT MOST TO HEAR HOW WE KEEP IT IN PLACE UNTIL IT SHUTS DOWN I'LL MAKE A MOTION IN THAT WAY THAT WHEN IT COMES TO MILITARY PUBLIC COMMENT ONCE THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION SHUTS DOWN AND SAID YOU'D BE FOR A STAND UP THEIR OWN PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT PUBLIC COMMENT OF THIS GROUP DID NOT ENJOY MEETING SECOND AND DISCUSSION IS THERE ANY REASON WAIT I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT TILL THE OTHERS ARE STOOD DOWN.

I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT WHAT'S AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO KNOW THAT THERE'S TWO SEPARATE COMMISSIONERS STANDING UP AND HERE ARE THE CHANGES I THINK IT MAKES IT A SIMPLER MESSAGE AND THAT YOU KNOW SITTING IN THE CHAIR ME SITTING IN THAT SENATOR ALL THE TIME I DIDN'T I THINK ONCE I HAD PUBLIC COMMENT THERE'S NOTHING IT WASN'T REALLY GOING ON RIGHT NOW IT DOES GET ACTIVE WHEN SOMETHING CHANGES ON THE BASIS THEY WILL GET VERY ACTIVE IN THAT WAY.

SO I DON'T SEE THE RUSH TO IT AND DO IT. I THINK DOING IT ALL IN A UNIFORM MANNER JUST SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO ME AS A DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION I MEAN HE JUST SAID ALL RIGHT, GOOD. OKAY, I GUESS WE'RE UP TO OUR

[7. REPRESENTATIVES FROM BJWSA DISCUSSION ITEMS/UPDATES]

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NEW BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES FROM YOU FOR JASPER. SURE.

ALREADY WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW WHICH IS GREAT. WHICH IS GREAT.

I MEAN YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A BOARD MEETING. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. OKAY. THANK YOU.

HOW YOU CAN HAVE A BOARD MEETING PROBABLY THE PUBLIC NOW .

WHY DON'T WE GO AROUND AND JUST KIND OF QUICKLY SEE WE'RE GOING TO PUSH YOURSELVES.

YES, MA'AM. STERLING FOR A DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER AT THE FBI SITE.

ALL RIGHT. WELCOME. PROBABLY MORE NEVER MORE.

SURE. GREG PADGETT, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY BECAME BOARD VICE-CHAIRMAN JUST BEFORE VERNA ARNETT, GENERAL MANAGER OF VINCENT OF ENGINEERING SALES CALL ON THE JOB OR SOMETHING NOW HE WAS THERE IN THE BACK TOO.

OKAY, SIR. WELL, YES. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WELCOME TO YOU. WANT ME TO GET TO THIS POINT SO NOW IF YOU WERE JUST IN THE BACK ROW, IF YOU WOULD JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELVES. STEPHANIE NO APPROACH TO PORTFOLIO OIL COUNTRIES HAVE YOU HEARD A GREAT MCCLURE OF THE COASTAL COUNTRY RECENTLY? ROBERT MARSH MP FOR COUNTY PLANNING KRISTIN FORBES BEFORE JOINING PLANNING MICHAEL GAGLIARDI ALCOCK WELCOME. ALL RIGHT WHERE DO WE START HERE? SO WE'RE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE I THINK THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION WHEN YOU DO HAVE A QUESTION, TAKE A LOOK. THERE IT IS RIGHT UP THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE WE KEEP OUR I'D BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY RIGHT I GUESS YOU KNOW OR JUST MYSELF I'M ROBERTA ARNETT AS I SAID CAN I START HERE FIRST SO I KNOW WE'LL BE COUNTED APPROPRIATE HERE AND IT'S BEEN A WHIRLWIND. IT'S BEEN GREAT BEAUTIFUL AREA AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE TO BE IN THIS MEETING BECAUSE I HEARD SOME NAMES.

THAT'S GREAT. I'VE HEARD THE NAME AND I'VE HEARD THESE NAMES AND SO AGAIN THANKS FOR HERE AND I'LL BE INTRODUCING PAUL PAUL'S I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS OFF WE HAVE A SHORT FORMATION OF PROBABLY YOU AND PAUL IS GOING TO PRESENT BEING KIND OF THE ENGINEERING DEVELOPMENT THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THE CAPITAL SIDE OF THIS.

AND SO PAUL I THINK YOU'RE WHAT THREE MONTHS YOU'VE BEEN HERE 12 DAYS AND THERE IS GOING TO GIVE US A GRADE AT THE END OF THIS TO SEE HOW AND SEE THE CPA PORTION OF YOUR STANDPOINT . SO I'M NOT SURE YOU ADVANCE AND I CAN CALL ON JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US AND WE COVER THE FOUR AUTHORIZED BY THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA 30 JASPER COUNTY. WE DON'T SERVE ALL OF THE COUNTIES BUT WE DO SERVE ABOUT 50 SQUARE MILES WITH TWO WATER TREATMENT PLANTS, EIGHT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANS, FOUR LABORATORIES OVER 200 EMPLOYEES. WE SERVE ABOUT 171,000 AND POPULATION 65,000 CONNECTIONS. SO NEXT SLIDE IN OUR WATER SYSTEM SUMMARY HAVE ONE WATER SOURCE THE SAVANNAH RIVER WHICH I'M A BIG FAN OF RIVER WATER SOURCES BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING IT'S IS A HIGH QUALITY SOURCE OF WATER AND FORTUNATE IN THIS AREA OF COURSE THERE'S A LOT OF WATER.

WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE SAVANNAH RIVER. WE HAVE A TOTAL TREATMENT CAPACITY OF 39 MILLION GALLONS. THE CHELSEA WATER TREATMENT PLANT WHICH IS AT 170 AND SNAKE ROAD IS PRIMARY PLANT THAT SERVES OUR FUTURE COUNTY THE PERRYSBURG PLANT 15 MGD THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR A DOUBLING IN SIZE AND THAT SERVES PRIMARILY SOUTHERN THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR SERVICE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM WE HAVE 1550 MILES OF WATER MAIN STATIONS, FIRE HYDRANTS, VALVES OBVIOUSLY. NEXT SLIDE ALL THE WASTEWATER SUMMARY WE TRAIN ABOUT 10.5 MILLION GALLONS A DAY AND YOU'LL NOTICE A WATER CAPACITY IS MUCH BIGGER. A LOT OF INNOVATION HERE. SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE WATER GOES. IT DOESN'T MAKE IT TO THE WASTEWATER.

THOSE PLANTS DON'T NEED TO BE AS BIG. WE DO HAVE A TREATMENT PLANT 2 TO 3 MAJOR PLANTS ON THE SIDE OF THE RIVER IS AT THE BROAD RIVER'S PORT ROYAL AND THEY'RE VERY NICE PLANTS TOO. I WENT INTO THAT PLANT I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THAT.

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THE COLLECTION SYSTEM IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THE WATER THAN WHERE THE WATER EXTENDS IN ABOUT A THOUSAND MILES OF COLLECTION SYSTEM GRAVITY SEWERS IN FORCE MAINE OVER 500 LIVE STATIONS WHICH I WAS AMAZED TO SEE THAT MANY LIVE STATIONS BUT I REALIZE IT'S ALL FLAT HERE AND WHERE I COME FROM WE HAVE A LOT OF HILLS BUT IT LEADS TO SOME CHALLENGES WITH WHAT THE DESIGN OF OF SEWER SEWAGE AND COLLECTION SYSTEMS AS FAR AS GETTING WATER TO THE WASTEWATER TO THE TREATMENT PLANT AND IT PROVIDES FOR SOME OF A LOT OF PUMPING AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH WE ALSO HAVE SOME SOLAR RAYS WHICH WE HAVE AT OUR OUR CHINA PLANTS TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF OUR ENERGY USAGE BECAUSE OF WASTEWATER PLANTS AND WATER PLANTS. I THINK THINGS ARE PUMPS AND THAT ANYTHING AERATORS AERATE THE SYSTEM TO DO THAT HELPS TO TREAT THIS YOU KNOW BIOLOGICAL TREATMENT UVA CHEMICAL DISINFECTION AND I DO A LOT WITH FREE FLOWING WATERS AND THE WATER THAT'S GOES TO THE SURFACE WATER DISCHARGES AND THE BALANCE WE HAVE THE GREAT SWAMP WHICH IS WHERE OUR CHERRY POINT PLANT DISCHARGES TO THE BALANCE OF A GOOD AMOUNT OF OUR EFFLUENT GOES TO GOLF COURSES FOR IRRIGATION IT IS IT IS REUSED WHICH I THINK IS ANOTHER FANTASTIC THING IN THIS AREA THE AMOUNT OF REUSE THAT'S GOING IS VERY IMPRESSIVE. I COULD BUT PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE AND PAUL IS GOING TO TAKE OVER AND GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING PLANNING TO GO FORWARD. HEY, GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. I'M FOR INSTANCE I GOT CHIEF OF ENGINEERING AS YOU'VE KIND OF HEARD I'M A LITTLE BIT NEW TO THE HORSESHOE ALREADY BUT WELL ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO I BOUGHT A HOUSE DOWN HERE AND, MOVED MY FAMILY DOWN HERE.

SOME DO HAVE SOME FAMILIARITY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON BUSINESS BECAUSE I'VE SPENT MY ENTIRE CAREER IN THE WORLD OF UTILITIES DOING ENGINEERING AND THAT SORT OF THING.

I AM A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND EXCITED TO BE TODAY TO KIND OF TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED ME TO THE AUTHORITY WAS A VISION AND A MISSION TO TRY TO IMPROVE THINGS AS WE ARE. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH DOWN HERE AND QUITE FRANKLY I'VE SEEN IT AS YOU START OUT YOU'RE KIND OF RUN AT A CERTAIN BECAUSE THAT'S THE LEVEL OF SOPHISTICATION IN IT AND THEN AS THINGS GROW NEED NEW TOOLS AND NEW SYSTEMS AND PLACES AND POLICIES AND WE'RE THAT PROCESS OF KIND OF TRYING TO MEASURE OURSELVES IN FUTURE AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO GET THERE TO PROVIDE AS MUCH LEVEL OF SERVICE AND A LOT OF WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT HERE TODAY IS KIND GOING TO ECHO THE SAME SORT OF SENTIMENTS. I'VE GOT SOME GREAT STAFF MEMBERS AND TEAM AND BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE I THINK ARE ALL VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE THINGS I'M TALKING ABOUT AND WHERE OUR DIRECTION IS GOING TO AS UTILITY. FIRST OFF, YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE THAT WE DO DO MASTER PLANS AND THAT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TAKES A LONG TIME TO BUILD AND IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND THEN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR US IS PERMANENT SO MUCH LIKE YOU LOOK AT YOUR ROAD SYSTEMS A THOSE ARE PRODUCTS OF INFRASTRUCTURE WE WANT TO TO BE AS COST EFFECTIVE OUR PIPELINES AND PUMP STATIONS AND TREATMENT PLANTS JUST TO HELP KEEP THE RATES AS LOW AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND THEN WE FEEL BETTER OUR OPERATIONS SIDE OF LIFE SO WE DO DO A REGULAR MASTER PLAN. I'M NOT GOING TO READ EACH OF THESE COMMENTS TO HEAR FROM A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS WE'VE BEEN RUNNING AROUND THE 30 OR $40 MILLION MARK AS KIND OF OUR OUR GOAL TARGET EACH YEAR TO DELIVER. WE TRY TO KEEP OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM RELATIVELY LEVEL BECAUSE THAT HELPS KEEP OUR RATES AS LOW AS POSSIBLE AND KEEPS ON OUR CREDIT AND LEVEL PLATFORM. BUT AS I SAY THAT I'LL TELL YOU OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS WE ARE LOOKING AT A MUCH MORE ROBUST CAPITAL PROGRAM THAT WILL BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

SO WHILE IT'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK FOR OUR STAFF TO TRY TO GET THROUGH OUR LAST FIVE YEARS WE WERE AT THREE TIMES PLUS THAT OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS FROM A CAPITAL THAT'S PROGRAM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THOSE ARE OUR PIPES GO ON THE GROUND OR PUMP STATIONS GONE ON THE GROUND OR TREATMENT PLANTS EXPANSION ALL THOSE HARD PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ARE SUPER CRITICAL TO US. SO WE'VE GOT A FEW OF THOSE KEY PROJECTS LISTED HERE.

HONESTLY IF I PULLED UP OUR CAPITAL PROGRESS PLANNERS ABOUT 100 PROJECTS ON IT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR THREE MORE WEEKS AND STILL I GUESS A LEVEL SO IT'S THAT LEVEL OF INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE DOING A FEW AHEAD THE NEXT SLIDE FOR ME THANK YOU .

SO WE'VE GOT A MAP HERE. WE JUST TRY TO KIND OF FOCUS ON THE AREA THAT YOU FOLKS BE INTERESTED IN. SEE THIS IS NOT GOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THESE ARE SIMPLY DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE LAST YEARS. I MEAN THIS IS NOT NEW INFORMATION I DON'T THINK FOR ANYBODY IN THE ROOM BUT WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT COMING TO THE AREA FOR US AS A UTILITY THAT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON US TO EXPAND AND PLAN AND TRY TO BE ON THE FOREFRONT OF CAPACITY ISSUES AND PROCESS AND AND LIKE I TALKED ABOUT VERY EARLY, YOU KNOW JUST GETTING OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO THE NEXT LEVEL SO WE'RE READY TO

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ACCOMMODATE THIS STUFF. IT'S BEEN STRESSFUL FOR US JUST BECAUSE WE'RE BEING FORCED GROW BECAUSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING SO FAST TO THE POINT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS AND SOME TOOL IMPROVEMENTS AND TRYING TO TRYING TO GET TO A NEW SPOT IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE KIND OF ZOOMING IN JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO RIGHT PAST THIS. I'M NOT SURE BUT IT'LL LOOK REALLY BLURRED TO BE ALL RIGHT SO HERE I HAVE A FEW OF JUST KIND OF OUR HIGH POINTS SO THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO JUST TO IMPROVE OUR OWN SYSTEMS NOW AS ENGINEERS WE USE ABBREVIATIONS FOR EVERYTHING IT MEANS PRETTY MUCH NOTHING TO THE REST THE WORLD SO.

DPM DOES ANYONE IN THE ROOM KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? PAPER CASPIR PEOPLE HANDS DOWN ANYBODY ELSE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS YEAH SO THIS IS OUR OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCEDURES AND PROGRAM MANUAL SO I GET THE RIGHT CLOSE SO IT'S CLOSE SO WHAT HAPPENS IS A DEVELOPER WILL COME TO US AND HE WANTS TO DO A SUBDIVISION OR A BUG STATION OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. WE HAVE A PROCEDURE MANUAL SO KIND OF THE REFLECTS WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR US BECAUSE CERTAINLY THERE'S A FRAMEWORK FOR PERMITTING AND THE PROCESS BUT IT ALSO REFLECTS KIND OF OUR REQUIREMENTS SO THAT WE CAN GET THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE INTO OUR STANDARDS SO. THEY AREN'T JUST USING THE WRONG PIPES OR VALVES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH AND TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN AS WELL AS LIKE GETTING THE RECORD KEEPING THESE TO US SO THAT WE KNOW THE FUTURE YOU KNOW TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD OR LIFE REGS HOW ARE WE GOING TO GO MAINTAIN THAT? SO THIS KIND OF PRESCRIBES SOME OF THOSE THINGS. I'LL TELL YOU JUST IN A MOMENT OF VULNERABILITY HERE THIS HAS A LITTLE POINT OF CONTENTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY FOR US OVER LAST I'LL SAY YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AND WE ARE WORKING ON THEM AND WE HAVE WORKING TEAMS DEVELOPED WITH OR PUT TOGETHER WITH DEVELOPERS AND THEIR PROFESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES TO TRY TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A STANDPOINT HOW CAN WE STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS? CERTAINLY WE HAVE OUR REQUIREMENTS EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WHAT CAN WE DO TO KIND OF SIMPLIFY THINGS AND IT GO A LITTLE BIT QUICKER AND THEN USE SOME OF THAT INPUT THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THAT HELP OUR SAMPLE GROUP PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE RESPONSIVE WITH INFRASTRUCTURES AND CAPACITIES KIND OF I'M NOT GOING TO GET NOT GOING TO READ ALL THESE THINGS TO YOU BUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A LOT OF OTHER IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT SYSTEM. I'M GOING TO JUMP DOWN HERE IN NUMBER FOUR.

WE'RE WORKING HARD TO TRY DEVELOP A COUPLE EXTRA TOOLS TO EXPEDITE WORK FOR DEVELOPERS CONSULTING AND PART OF THAT IS JUST MAKING SOME OF OUR INFORMATION AVAILABLE THEM WE CERTAINLY HAVE OUR OWN RECORD KEEPING THAT WORK PART THAT WE KIND OF KEEP CLOSE TO THE VEST BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE SOME IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR US THAT WE STILL WANT TO PUT OUT THE PUBLIC PREVIEW. SURE YOU GUYS CAN UNDERSTAND SOME OF IT IS RELATED MILITARY BASES AND CERTAIN PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I DON'T WANT TO WENT OVERSEAS.

WELL, ALL RIGHT BUT BEYOND SOME SOME GOOD SECURITY MEASURES THERE DO WANT TO TRY TO MAKE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY SO THOSE FOLKS CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS, MAYBE SEE WHERE OUR OUR FUTURE STEPS ARE GOING TO BE SO THEY CAN KIND OF BE WORKING HAND IN HAND AND CERTAINLY WITH THE FOLKS AROUND THIS TABLE, PROBABLY PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, RIGHT. YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE YOUR OWN RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES. WHAT IS YOUR SUBSCRIPTION BASE THING? SO THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH OVER THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT WE MAY MAKE SOME OF THIS MORE SENSITIVE INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON A SUBSCRIPTION BASIS TO CONSULTING ENGINEERS WHERE THE IDEA BEING THAT WE'RE NOT JUST TO GIVE LIKE A RANDOM REALTOR TO COME IN AND THEN GET SOME INFORMATION THAT THEY DON'T REALLY NEED INSTEAD IT'S GOING TO BE THE PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRICE POINT IS GOING TO BE THAT BUT MAYBE IT'S A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR BUT THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE PROVIDE THEM QUITE A BIT OF EXTRA DATA THAT THEY WOULD HAVE HAD OTHERWISE FROM US.

SO IF THEY WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH SOME OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR OWN CONFERENCE ROOMS AND SCROLL THROUGH OUR FACILITIES AND KIND OF SEE WHAT WE WERE GOING THEN THEY CAN MAKE BETTER INFORMED DECISIONS COME ON THE FRONT END OF THEIR PLANNING PROCESS IS THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS? I THINK WE COULD BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE MUNICIPALITIES WE HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL AGREEMENTS WITH ALL OF THEM THAT Y'ALL ARE SHARING AND WE'RE SHARING SO THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THE IDEA WITH US.

AND PART OF IT IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LIMITING ACCESS AND THE RIGHT PEOPLE THAT NEED TO DO IT ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING FLIPPING RIGHT AND THAT WE'LL HAVE TO SIGN NDA WITH THAT TO KEEP IT THE SECURITY OF IT'S IMPORTANT TO US SO THAT'S GREAT QUESTION.

YEAH I JUST I'M GOING TO JUST FINISH UP HERE WITH POINT SIX YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO I GOT A COUPLE OF BOARD MEMBERS IN THE ROOM AND THEY HAVEN'T SEEN MY FULL VISION FOR HOW THIS IS GOING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE OF A RIGHT NOW AND THAT MAY BE COMING UP LATER BUT MORE QUESTIONS COME TO QUESTIONS SO YOU HEARD ME EARLIER SPEAK TO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM AND HOW IT'S ABOUT TO DO ONE OF THESE NUMBERS. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME STAFF AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AREA QUITE FRANKLY IT'S IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT REACTIONARY ON OUR PART OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND WE WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THAT MODEL WHERE WE'RE MUCH MORE FOCUSED ON FUTURE PLANS FOR THINGS AND WE ARE LOOKING STRATEGICALLY AT ADDING

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SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES INSIDE OF OUR HOUSE THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE.

THIS IS BACK TO MY EARLIER POINT OF TRYING TO SEE THAT WE'RE MATURING AS A UTILITY.

WE WANT TO PROVIDE LITTLE BIT MORE SERVICE AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE RELATED TO PLANNING . I KNOW I GOT PLENTY OF PLANNERS IN THE ROOM FOR US BECAUSE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PERMANENT LONG TERM WE WANT TO GET SIZED RIGHT THE FIRST TIME I COME OUT AND GET A STRAW SIZED PIPE AND REALIZE LATER THAT WE NEEDED SOMETHING THREE TIMES THAT SIZE AND PAY FOR IT OVER THE COURSE OF FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT. WE JUST WANT TO DO THAT.

WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT SIZE THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE IT'S MOST EFFECTIVE FOR US.

WE ALSO WANT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT SOME EFFICIENCIES TODAY IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO LOOK AT EFFICIENCIES ON PUMPS SOME PIPES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PLANNING INFORMATION THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A PIVOT POINT FOR US AND I'M GOING LOOK AT THESE GUYS ARE PROBABLY ALL GOING TO GIVE ME FUNNY LOOKS EARLIER TODAY BUT WE ARE TRYING TO DO A LOT OR WE HOPE TO DO A LITTLE MORE FOCUS ON THAT PLANNING PIECE THAT THAT INFORMS CAPITAL PROGRAM BETTER AND HELPS US MAYBE ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE SO WE'RE OUT IN FRONT OF SOME OTHER STUFF RATHER THAN JUST THE SITUATION ALSO FROM A FROM A STAFFING STANDPOINT QUITE FRANKLY WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE COMING AT US. SO I'M LOOKING AT SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF IN THAT AREA TO TRY TO DO THINGS FOR US. AND THEN THE FINAL AREA THAT'S KIND OF NEW FOR US IS A TO THIS POINT WE'VE RELIED HEAVILY ON THE CONSULTING ENGINEERING INDUSTRY TO HELP US WITH OUR SEWER MODEL AND HAVING SPENT QUITE A BIT BASICALLY MY WHOLE CAREER IN THAT WORLD I CAN TELL YOU THAT NO TWO CONSULTANTS ARE THE SAME AND TYPICALLY WHEN YOU ASK A LAND DEVELOPMENT GUY TO DO SEWER MODELING THAT'S VERY OVER SAID THAT'S NOT HIS AREA OF EXPERTIZE NOW THERE ARE A FEW HERE IN THIS AREA THAT THEY HAVE LIKE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION INSIDE THEMSELVES THAT MAY HAVE THAT SKILL SET AND THAT'S GREAT.

BUT WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH 24 OR 25 DIFFERENT CONSULTING FIRMS, THEY ARE NOT SOME OF OUR NOT TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO THE LEVEL THAT WE WOULD WANT. SO WE WANT TO TRY TO THAT THAT PIECE OF THAT BACK INSIDE FOR OURSELVES SO WE'RE DOING OUR OWN MODELING AND THAT REALLY KIND OF TIES TO EVERYTHING I'VE GOT ON THE BOARD HERE SO THAT HELPS US HAVE THAT VISION DOWN THE ROAD. WE CAN EVALUATE ALTERNATIVES ON ON PUMP STATION LOCATIONS AND REALLY TRY TO GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE POINT IT NEEDS TO BE NOW ALL THESE THINGS I'VE TALKED ABOUT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW. I MEAN THESE ARE THESE ARE YOUR EFFORTS FOR US TO GET THERE? HONESTLY I FEEL LIKE EVEN ON THE MODEL THAT TAKE US TWO YEARS JUST TO GET THE MODEL CREATED AND THEN CAN START DOING THAT ANALYSIS AND THOSE EVALUATIONS AND I'VE GOT WE'VE GOT VISION I THINK IT'S VERY WELL SHARED BY EVERYONE IN THE ROOM. A COUPLE OF MORE GUYS HAVE HEARD EVERY BIT OF THIS JUST TALKING ABOUT BUT I'M SURE THEY'RE RIGHT THERE WITH US TO AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE GET TO A POINT HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WHAT SEE FROM US AS AUTHORITIES IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SAW FIVE YEARS AGO. SO WITH THAT ALL IS GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR THOUGHT THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE SHARE.

YES, PAUL, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION TOM. I GUESS THE BIGGEST CONCERNS I'M HEARING FROM THE DEVELOPED INDUSTRY IS NOT SO MUCH ON THE WATER SUPPLY SIDE, IT'S ON THE SEWER SUPPLY SIDE AND SO KNOW WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION ALREADY IN THE SEWER SYSTEM MODELING ANY FURTHER CLARITY ON LIKE THE TIMING TO DO THE MODELING AND THEN TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS WILL NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

YEAH. SO I HAVE A PERFECT CRYSTAL BALL ON THIS STUFF BUT EVERY DAY WE GET A LITTLE BIT SMARTER. WE DID ADVERTISE FOR A CONSULTING FIRM TO COME IN AND HELP US DEVELOP THE ORDER OUT OF THE GATE BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO DEVELOP IT. WE JUST GOT THE SOLICITATIONS AND IT FINISHED YESTERDAY SO WE'LL BE EVALUATING EXACTLY WHAT THAT CONSULTANT CAN DO FOR US HERE IN THE VERY NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS OR MONTH. MY VISION FOR THAT IS TO GET A COUPLE OF STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO DEDICATED TO THAT PROCESS.

SO IS THAT CONSULTANTS WORKING IN DEVELOPING THAT MODEL? WE'RE RIGHT THERE ALONGSIDE WITH THEM. WAS THEY GETTING TRAINED WITH THEM AS TO HOW THEY'RE DEVELOPING THE MODEL BUT ALSO GETTING THE ACCURACY GOING INTO IT AND JUST REALLY BEING A PARTNER IN THAT PROCESS UNTIL WE HAVE THAT CONSULTANT ON BOARD I WON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD TIGHT SCHEDULE BECAUSE DONE THIS ENOUGH I KNOW THE SIZE OF OUR SYSTEMS. I'VE DONE MODELING MYSELF FROM TWO ZERO. THIS IS PROBABLY A TWO YEAR PROCESS JUST TO BE ABOUT IT TO GET THAT MODEL DEVELOPED AND START GOING.

I HOPE IS THAT ONCE WE HAVE THE MODEL DEVELOPED FOR THAT WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT WITH THAT CONSULTANT. THANK THEM FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE NOW IT'S OUR OUR ABILITY TO RUN AND THAT POINT WE START RUNNING SOME OF THESE ALTERNATIVES THAT MY HEART GETS EXCITED ABOUT WHICH ARE EFFICIENCY RELATED TIME IN OUR OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT COST SAVINGS SORRY INTERPRETATION SIDE OF ME SO I JUST LIKE WE'RE GETTING THAT RIGHT I'M EXCITED THAT WE WERE OF THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND HONESTLY A LOT OF THAT LIKE I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT OUR RFQ THAT'S THE FOLKS HERE IN THE ROOM FOR ME THAT ALREADY HAD THAT FOR HOW WE NEEDED TO GO IN THIS DIRECTION SO I COULD ADD TO THAT THE PHASE ONE WE'RE STARTING OUT WITH A ABOUT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT THE SEWER IS THE BUT SO WE'RE STARTING OUT WITH A POPULATION ANALYSIS WHICH IS WHAT THE CONSULTANT IS

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GOING TO START WORKING ON TO GIVE US REALLY LOOK AT WHAT ARE OUR 530 PLUS PUMP STATIONS WHAT'S THE CAPACITY OF THOSE WELL WE HAVE THAT THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US A LOT INFORMATION THAT'S GOING TO HELP INFORM THE REMAINDER OF BUILDING THE SEWER MODEL.

BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT GIVES US THERE'S A SHORTER TIME SPAN TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND THEN THE VISION WITH THAT IS TO MAKE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO DEVELOPER ENGINEERS. SO AND WE HAVE MORE FOR WHEN PEOPLE COME TO US WITH WITH THEIR PROJECTS AND. YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT WE DON'T GO THREE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD INTO A PROJECT AND GET EVERYBODY GET SURPRISED BECAUSE WE FIND OUT THAT WE'RE LACKING IN SOME AREAS SO THIS SHOULD HELP INFORM THAT PROCESS I HAVE I HAVE A QUESTION FOLLOW UP TO THAT OF A LOT OF MY COUNTY HAS POCKETS OF OLDER HOUSING THAT'S STILL ON SEPTIC AND OF COURSE THAT IMPACTS OUR OUR STORMWATER PROGRAM WE'RE PRETTY SURE SCIENTIFICALLY IT DOES I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT I HOPE THAT THIS MODELING WILL LOOK AT THESE POCKETS OF AREAS WERE BUILT IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES THAT ARE STILL ON SANITARY SEWER.

I KNOW SOME AREAS HAVE GOTTEN SOME GRANTS BUT WITHOUT GRANTS WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO GET GET THE SEWAGE AND. THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT THEMSELVES.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY FUTURE PLANS FOR THOSE AREAS ON SEPTIC WE AND I APPRECIATE YEAH I APPRECIATE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND AND FOR US THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT NEW STAFFING PIECE WE'RE GOING LOOK TO BRING SOME PLANNERS ON BOARD TO KIND OF HELP ADDRESS THAT TO THIS POINT WE'VE BEEN VERY REACTIONARY WITH WHAT'S JUST COMING AT US NEW DEVELOPMENTS, THAT SORT OF THING WHICH MAKES IT HARD TO ADDRESS THE EXACT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. LIKE WE ALL REALIZE THAT SEPTIC TANKS ARE A TEMPORARY SOLUTION TO WASTE. RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND ULTIMATELY WE TO SEE THAT THAT PERMANENT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE BEING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE FOLKS FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT FROM A CONSTANT POINT USUALLY WORKS OUT THERE ARE CHALLENGES RELATED TO WHENEVER YOU'RE REMOVING AN EXISTING AREA JUST THE RESTORATION OF ROADS AND YARDS AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT AND NO ONE WE CAN PARTNER OFF GRANTS THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO DELIVER THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS FOR US IT'S NOT BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT A LOT OF FOCUS ON RIGHT NOW BUT I DO HOPE BY BRINGING IN SOME OF THAT PLANNING STAFF I DON'T KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE POCKETS OVER HERE JUST DON'T HAVE SERVICE UNDERSERVED FACILITIES RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, COORDINATING WITH ALL THE PLANNING ENTITIES HERE GROWTH GOING RIGHT THROUGHOUT OUR JURISDICTIONS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR VISION IS FOR THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES BECAUSE EVERYONE'S GOT THEIR OWN UNIQUE VISION.

YOU KNOW OFTENTIMES I'VE SEEN YOU KNOW, SOMETHING MAYBE ONE ZONING WHERE IT'S VERY YOU KNOW IT'S A COUNTY AND THE DESTINY REALLY LOW BUT THERE MAY BE A ANNEXATION PLAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE I'LL WORK WITH THE MAYOR AND THEY'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE WE THINK THE DENSITY HERE AND IT'S GOING BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE FROM OUR STANDPOINT WE WANT TO THOSE THINGS BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE WASTE WATER FLOW BIGGER BIGGER PIPES BY HAVING SOME OF THESE PLANNING STAFF THAT WERE OUR VISION FOR IN FACT WE JUST ADVERTISED THE FIRST SPOT YESTERDAY ON OUR WEBSITE SO WE'RE NOT THERE RIGHT. WE HAVE WE HAVE A SHARED VISION FOR TRYING TO GET THERE FOR PURCHASE THAT OF PROJECT THAT YOU TALK ABOUT AND I THINK A LOT OF LIKE HOW WE GET TO THE MODEL IS GOING TO HELP US IDENTIFY THOSE WHAT WHAT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED AND THAT'S WE CAN START FORMULATING OUR GET OUT A FEW MONTHS AGO WE HAD A SPECIAL THAT WAS APPOINTED TO LOOK AT UNDERSERVED AREAS FROM BEFORE JASPER COUNTY MICHAEL BILLS OUR CHAIRMAN THAT COMMITTEE ON SOME OF THEM I KNOW MIKE WHO'S BEEN THE LONGEST SERVING THAT WE HAVE AND THEY'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL AREAS IN AIR IN OUR REGION TO IDENTIFY AREAS MOSTLY RURAL NOT IN-TOWN, MOSTLY RURAL THAT ARE THAT DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SEWER AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS COMING DOWN THE ROAD AS YOU SAY BUT WE'RE LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD AS FAR AS TEN YEARS TO GET INFRASTRUCTURE SOME OF THE PLACES THAT DON'T HAVE AND SO WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR PLACES WHERE WE CAN CONVERT SEPTIC TO TO THE SEWER. YEAH YEAH. THANK YOU.

I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I APPRECIATE IT. OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART AFTER SPENDING 30 YEARS THERE WATCHING THOSE 530 LIVE STATIONS BE BUILT AND OPERATING THEM. SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR THERE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT MEETING WITH OUR PLANNING BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS GROUP LOOKS AT ESPECIALLY NORTHERN WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE BUILT, HOW BUILT AND THE DENSITY AND THE INFILL IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE MUNICIPALITIES. WE CAN'T JUST KEEP EXPANDING AND GROWING FURTHER OUT OUT OUT TO THE COUNTY IF WE CAN GET THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE EFFICIENTLY INSIDE THE MUNICIPALITIES WHERE THE DENSITY CAN MEET, WHERE EFFICIENCY OF SERVICES BECOME

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GOOD FOR ALL I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT OUR MAJOR CORRIDORS AND LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING AND SAY HOW DO WE MAKE THIS PROPERTY MORE VALUABLE TO GET THAT STUFF BUILT SO WE KEEP EVERYBODY IN THE AREA SO WE LOOK FORWARD, KNOW OUR PLANNING STAFF IS LOOKING VERY FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU. LET US KNOW AND KNOW THAT CRAIG IS PROBABLY THINKING THE SAME THING WITH THE CITY OF YOUR FRIEND SO WE LOOK FORWARD.

WE HAVE LOTS OF CAPITAL NEEDS THAT TEND TO CREATE INFILL AND THAT LITERALLY THE FIRST THING IS NO SERVICES AVAILABLE WALK AWAY AND WE'VE GOT TO GET THROUGH.

WE'VE GOT TO OVER THAT HUMP SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT FIRST PIECE HOWEVER WE DO IT AS PARTNERS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND LOOK AT IT NEEDS IT ALMOST NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATE FOCUS FOR WATER AUTHORITY. NOW AS THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE 35 YEARS SINCE I WAS HIRED SO YEAH I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ON RIGHT ON TASK AND WE DO SEE LIKE A SHARED ROLE IN YOUR GUYS SUCCESS AND WE REALIZE THAT WERE A CRITICAL PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WE WANT TO SUPPORT YOU GUYS AND HAVE YOU GUYS GET TO THAT VISION POINT FOR YOUR OWN COMMUNITIES WE DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF IT AS WE GET OPPORTUNITIES WE SOME OF THESE STAFF ON BOARD AND I'M TALKING ABOUT WE'D LOVE TO ENGAGE WITH YOUR YOUR PLANNERS YOURSELF EVEN JUST KIND OF LOOKING IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITY AND GIVE US YOUR HEART WHAT ARE YOUR HOT TOPICS AND IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ASSIST IN IT WHATEVER IT MAY BE MAYBE IT'S SHARING IN A GRANT. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYBODY. OR MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ADD TO OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM. WE'D LOVE TO BE THERE SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY AND NO NO I WANT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT A LITTLE. SO IF YOU TALK ABOUT SO GO AHEAD. WELL IT'S SIMILAR I WANTED TO KIND OF BUILD OFF OF MAYOR PRIETO'S POINT. YOU KNOW THIS GROUP AND THE JURISDICTIONS HAVE BEEN DOING SOME COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING SINCE THE LATE NINETIES AND I THINK SINCE THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN THE IDEA HAS BEEN TO TRY TO CONCENTRATE THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE ON THAT'S COMING RIGHT. WE'RE SEEING IT NOW WITHIN SORT OF THE EXISTING URBAN URBAN CENTERS AND THEN INCREMENTALLY OVER TIME WE SORT OF WE SORT OF OUT REALLY HARD AND TRY TO PRESERVE THAT RURAL GREENBELT SOME OF THE MORE SORT OF RURAL OUTSIDE EDGES OF OF THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW OF SAINT HELENA FOR EXAMPLE SHELDEN SO I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION I'LL JUST SAY WHAT IN YOUR PLANNING EFFORTS YOU KNOW I HOPE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT OUR PLAN SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN BECAUSE I'M CERTAINLY SENSITIVE TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE WATER SEWER AUTHORITY WATER OR SEWER TODAY BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE LIMITED TOOLS ON HOW WE CONTROL AND CONTAIN GROWTH AND I KNOW THAT UTILITIES, WATER AND SEWER BEING A MAJOR ONE I'LL JUST BE NERVOUS THAT LIKE RUN A MAJOR WATER SEWER PIPE LIKE ACROSS THE OIL RICH RIVER AND THEN THAT JUST EXPLODES SORT OF SPRAWL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY WHENEVER WE GET 30 YEARS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAY WE DON'T WANT SPRAWL SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT IN CERTAIN AREAS AND SO HOW HOW DO YOU ALIGN YOUR PLANNING EFFORTS WITH WITH PLANNING EFFORT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME LANDOWNERS AND DEVELOPERS WHO FEEL THERE'LL BE A CONFLICT THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE AND WE'RE ALL TALKING AND HAVING FREQUENT COMMUNICATION WHICH IS WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THIS ROLE PLAYS TO SOME PEOPLE.

SO YEAH THAT THAT'S SOMETHING DEFINITELY WE NEED TO BUILD AND I PLUG THIS GROUP BECAUSE THIS IS YOU KNOW FOR NORTHERN COUNTY AND THEN YOU HAVE SO LOCAL THAT GETS EVERYBODY AROUND THE TABLE AT THIS POINT FOR NORTHERN COUNTY AS YOU KNOW ALL OF YOUR POLICYMAKING AGENCIES WITH MANY OF YOUR ANY OF YOUR PLANNERS OR CLEARINGHOUSE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ONE TIME MAYBE JUST TO HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION A LITTLE BIT OR PIPELINE BUT FROM OUR STANDPOINT GUYS ARE HELPING GIVE THAT VISION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE YOU KNOW WE WE ARE WE ARE SUPPLEMENT OR SUPPORT BECAUSE PROVIDE THIS A STRUCTURE PIECE BUT IF YOU'VE GOT THOUGHTS OF HEY YOU THIS IS THE PRIORITY FOR WORK OUR GOAL IS WE TO BE THERE TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS OR NOT WE'RE NOT GOING OUT THERE AND RUN AN INFRASTRUCTURE INTO YOU KNOW, UNDEVELOPED AREAS WITHOUT TRANSPERSONAL DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE WANT TO HELP YOU GUYS PROVIDE US THAT LEVEL OF LEADERSHIP AND JUST WE GET TO GO HAND-IN-HAND WITH YOU AND WE HOPE YOU KNOW, AS WE SOME STAFF AND CONTINUE DOWN THE ROAD AND ALL THESE TOOLS ARE DEVELOPED AND EVERYTHING IS COMPREHENSIVE. YOU INTERJECT SOMETHING JUST A SECOND IF YOU DON'T MIND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP IN NOVEMBER THE BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS WHERE ARE WE GOING IN THE FUTURE AND WE'D LIKE TO MAYBE INVITE ANY OF YOU THAT LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR WORKSHOP, GET IN TOUCH WITH MAYOR BRANHAM AND AND WE WILL PUT YOU ON A PROGRAM THAT YOU TELL US AS A BOARD AND TARA WARNS WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND SO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON ON YOUR PARTICULAR AREA. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU BUT ROYAL BLUSTER AND THE DIFFERENT THING POWER NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THEIR SPECIFIC PLANS ARE ON

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RECORD SO THAT WE CAN COORDINATE BETTER A LOT OF TIMES THINGS HAPPEN TO US AS AN AUTHORITY FACTORS GOING ON AND YOU'VE TOOLS TO OUT SOMETIMES AND THEN WE HAVE TO CATCH UP SO IT'S IT'S GOOD TO KNOW IF WE CAN GET TOGETHER AHEAD OF TIME I KNOW WHERE YOU GOING FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO YEARS THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WE CAN PROJECT OUT AHEAD OF TIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THIS WILL AVOID US FROM HAVING TO DO HICCUPS YOU KNOW AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM HERE AND THAT'S FUN.

SO I'LL JUST LIKE TO GET IN ON THAT INVITATION INCLUDE THE COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD MARKET TWO. YES. OKAY.

WE HAVE TO I APPRECIATE YOU IN OUR MEETINGS TOO, MR. GLOVER. YOU WERE THERE YESTERDAY ON THE PHONE AND AND SINCE OUR MEETINGS I APPRECIATE THAT THAT SHOWS A GREAT INTEREST IN WHAT WE'RE DOING. BUT ONE LAST THING I'LL MAKE A THAT I KNOW THAT CITY, COUNTY AND I ARE ALL WITH SOON WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE'S GOING TO BE A GROUP COMING HERE TO HELP US WITH LOW COST AND WORKFORCE HOUSING. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ALL STRUGGLING WITH IS WHAT FEES CAN WE REDUCE OR WHAT CAN WE OFFER TO THOSE IN THE WAY OF REDUCED IMPACT FEES CAPACITY FEES YOU KNOW, A BUILDING FEES, WHATEVER THAT IS.

HOW CAN WE MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO BUILD STYLE HOME IN OUR COMMUNITIES? AND YOU KNOW, WE HOPE THAT AS THE I UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE CAPITAL CONTRIBUTION FEES GET IT I KNOW YOU'RE DESCRIBING IT HERE YOU'RE RAMPING IT UP. IT'S GOING TO COST MORE BUT WE'VE GOT TO LOOK HARD TO SAY HOW CAN WE MAKE DO SOMETHING WITH THIS NO DIFFERENT THAN OUR FIRE IMPACT THESE ARE OUR ROAD FEES IN THAT WAY SO I JUST WANT THEM YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS AND I WANTED YOU TO KIND OF HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY GOTTEN THE ASK IT'S COMING AND WE'RE GOING TO BE THINKING VERY HARD ON THAT SUBJECT AS WELL.

YEAH. YEAH, THERE'S NO AND I THINK THAT'S THAT GOES WITH MY TALK ABOUT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP COMING UP AND THERE'S PART OF OUR INITIATIVE YOU KNOW I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT'S UNDERSERVED BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE SERVING THAT YOU KNOW A POPULATION THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO KNOW IT'S A STRUGGLE AND SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THE BOARD IS VERY INTERESTING WILL BE DISCUSSING ESPECIALLY ABOUT ISSUE OF LOW INCOME IN OUR POLICIES WE HAVE A HARD TIME BRINGING PEOPLE IN WITH THE COST OF LIVING IN THE COUNTRY OF SOUTH CAROLINA. SO WE FEEL THAT SAME THING THAT THE SYSTEM IS FAILING IN TERMS OF OUR RECRUITMENT OF TALENT AND IF WE CAN FIND THOSE RIGHT PROPERTIES THE DENSE AREAS WHERE MAYBE SERVICE ALREADY EXISTS AND THAT'S THE CAPACITY NEEDED THERE IN A DIFFERENT WAY THEN THAT DRAWS THAT DOWN AND BRINGS THEM IN WHERE THE TRANSPORTATION AND THE JOBS AND EVERYTHING ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE AND THAT'S KIND OF THE CONVERSATION AND DISCUSSION WILL YOU KNOW LIKE I JUST WANTED TO ADD THE COUNTY SHOULD SET ASIDE FUNDS BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION IT WAS A NO NO DEAL FOR JASPER TO WORK TO PROVIDE THOSE FUNDS FOR THE YOUR PHASE BUT WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE AS WE TRY TO BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO THE COUNTY CYCLE BE ABLE TO ALWAYS PICK UP NECESSARILY THAT WE DO OFFER AS WE DO HAVE A FUND FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS FOR THAT HELPS PAY FOR THINGS TO HELP WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND FRAMING INFRASTRUCTURE THEM THAT THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS THE PRODUCT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY SIDE AND SO THAT'S A GREAT FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE HAVE TO COST BUT THERE'S A THE ISSUE IS IS IS AND IT WAS WHERE I PREVIOUSLY WAS THAT IT WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ON THAT NOW SO IF WE WERE TO COME I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU KIND OF MENTIONED A FEW TIMES SO I THINK FROM MY ON THE WHOLE PROBLEM NO I FEEL ABOUT IT BUT I MEAN I FEEL THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF COORDINATE YOUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS WITH OUR PROCESS AND TO MATCH THAT MAYBE YOU CROYLE AND THE COUNTY YEAH I THINK AS A RETAIL PARTNER I'M A GREAT TO BE ABLE TO TELL DEVELOPERS YOU KNOW WE KNOW THE TIMELINE FOR YOU FOR JASPER GENERALLY AND WE CAN WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT REVIEW PROCESS IS STREAMLINED AT THE EARLY WE'RE NOT THE STUFF BEFORE JASPER WITH YOUR INPUT BECAUSE I BEEN HERE SUPER LONG AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING WAS AT LEAST IN THE CITIES A LOT OF PROJECTS WERE KIND OF GETTING AN UNKNOWN ANSWER

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FOR JASPER. SO THEN THEY WERE GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH A DIFFICULT PROCESS CITY HEARD AND THEN THEY WERE TOLD WELL WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY TO SERVE OUR COST LOT OF MONEY YEAH THAT'S THE AND SO IF COULD HAVE THAT PROCESS YEAH EXACTLY THAT I THAT CAN BE YOUR PROCESS WE CAN MATCH YOUR PROCESS BUT AS LONG AS THERE IS THAT COMMUNICATION SO WE CAN STOP DOING THAT BECAUSE THAT GIVES CITIZENS SOUNDS A LOT OF VIABILITY RIGHT AND THEN AND OR CRITICAL SO NOW EVERYBODY IS ATTACKING ALL US, RIGHT? YEAH THAT'S THE FINGERPOINTING GAME RIGHT SO YEAH THINK BETWEEN THAT AND THE MANUAL REVISIONS WE'LL SEE HOW BE A HUGE BENEFIT TO US AND TO THE DEVELOPER PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO US I THINK TO YOUR POINT I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO IMPROVE OUR PROCESS IN A RELATIONSHIP AND THE WAY THAT WE WORK TOGETHER AND WE'RE NOT THERE TODAY BUT LET'S LET'S HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. LET'S FIND TIME TO GET TOGETHER AND JUST SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME WAYS TO BRING UP SOME HISTORY. I THINK MAYBE EVEN BEFORE OUR HISTORY THAT I USED TO SIT FROM VIRGINIA USA AS AN EX-OFFICIO MEMBER OF COUNCIL OF ROYAL DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. I WOULD SIT THERE IN THAT MEETING EVERY MONTH AND GIVE THEM THE WATER AUTHORITY'S PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND THERE WAS AN ENGINEER FROM THE ENGINEERING STAFF THAT SAT ON THE CITY OF BEAUFORT ONE AND THERE SO WE WERE SPLIT UP BY WOULD SO BECAUSE WE EITHER ONE OF US COULD DO BOTH SO WE AGREED TO DO THAT AND WE SAT FOR MANY YEARS ON THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD FOR BOTH SIDES TO HELP STEER THAT, HELP THEM MOVE THAT ALONG AND WHERE THERE WAS GOING TO BE ROADBLOCKS WHERE THEY NEEDED TO GET IN FRONT OF US SOONER AND THAT KIND OF STUFF AND THAT ASPECT AND KIND OF GIVE THE OTHER SIDE. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS IN PLACE FELL OUT MAYBE IT'S A GREAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE ESPECIALLY AS YOU'RE STANDING UP A NEW BOARD AT THE CITY AND THEN WHAT WE'RE STANDING UP TO AS WELL SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN START THINKING ABOUT IN THE CONVERSATION NOW THAT YOU'RE INCREASING YOUR ENGINEERING STYLE SOME BEHIND YOU ARE VERY INTERESTED IN INCREASING YOUR ENGINEERING STAFF IN THAT WAY.

WE'D LOVE TO KIND OF STRIKE UP THAT CONVERSATION TO SEE IF THAT MAKES SENSE AGAIN TO BE PART OF THOSE THOSE MEETINGS ONCE A MONTH IN THAT WAY, MAYOR, THAT THAT MAKES 100% SENSE TO ME. I THINK THAT'S JUST PART OF US BEING A PARTNER AND KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR COMMUNITY. I WANT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT A LITTLE FROM SCHOOL. I'M IN A RURAL AREA. I NEED WATER WATER SERVICES AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET PLANNING DONE. THERE'S NO DEVELOPER THAT'S DOING THE PLANNING SO WHEN WHEN WE LOOK AT CHANGING OR BUILDING CAPACITY FOR FIRE HYDRANTS WE JUST LOOKING THE DIFFERENT SIZED LINES ETC. THERE IS NO DEVELOPER GOING TO LEAD THE CHARGE. IT'S A COMMUNITY EFFORT HOW YOU HELP, WHAT CAN BE DONE TO ASSIST IN THAT AREA THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S THERE WILL BE INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY COMING THERE'S A NEED TO OUR LINES IN THE AREA SO THAT IF NOTHING ELSE FIRE HYDRANTS CAN BE INSTALLED. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THAT THEY HAVE WATER BUT THEY CAN'T FIRE HYDRANTS BECAUSE OF THE CAPACITY THAT'S THERE. WE WANT TO TRY TO IMPROVE THAT IN A COMMUNITY BUT WE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPER TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THIS RURAL AREA SO WE NEED FIRE HYDRANTS. HOW CAN YOU HELP US WITH THAT? I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PLANNING COMPONENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MR. PADGETT TALKED ABOUT THERE IS A OBVIOUSLY AND I KNOW THAT MOVING ALONG I GUESS BECAUSE YEAH IT'S WE NEED TO LOOK LOOK AT THE WHOLE SYSTEM AND LOOK WHERE THESE ISSUES OCCUR AND OF COURSE TALKING WITH ALL WHERE YOU SEE THE PROBLEMS AND I MEAN YOU'RE RIGHT THERE'S NOT A DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO COME IN THERE AND CREATE LINE. SO AS PAUL MENTIONED, YOU RATIFY SCOPE THE PROBLEM AND ARE THERE WHAT FUNDING AVAILABLE TO HELP ACCOMPLISH THIS AND WORKING TOGETHER TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS IS THE DISCUSSION I GUESS I'M ASKING WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO YOU FROM THE COMMUNITY? I MEAN DO WE NEED TO SOMEONE IS THAT NEEDED FOR THE COMMUNITY YOU'RE THINKING YOU'RE THINKING THE RIGHT WAY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT VISION THAT I'VE HERE TODAY ABOUT TRYING TO BRING IN SOME PLANNERS AND WE JUST LITERALLY ADVERTISED YESTERDAY FOR OUR FIRST SPOT TO DO THAT. THE WAY I COULD SEE THIS WORKING IS THAT WE CAN HELP SHEPHERD THAT PROCESS LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS LIKE YOU KNOW, MEETING WITH OURSELVES AND HELPING STAKEHOLDERS LIKE WE CAN HELP ORGANIZE MEETINGS OR THOSE MEETINGS WHATEVER IT MAY BE SET AGENDAS THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT CERTAINLY WE HAVE ENGAGEMENT STAKEHOLDERS IN EACH OF THOSE POCKETS OF OUR COUNTY THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SERVICE TO THIS POINT WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD THAT THAT

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SKILLSET IN-HOUSE AND HAVEN'T GOT A LOT OF THAT TYPE WORK NOW AS I TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND LOOK AT THE WORLD FOR AN HOUR OR AT LEAST GOING ON OUR INDUSTRY, I'LL TELL YOU THAT YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN PRACTICING FOR 26, SEVEN YEARS. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A GREATER OPPORTUNITY OR TIME GRANT MONEY FOR THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE AT ANY POINT IN MY CAREER AS WHAT THERE IS TODAY AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT SOMEWHAT INTERNALLY ABOUT TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE IN THAT ROLE WHERE I'M JUST KIND OF DEALING DEVELOPERS AND TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO KEEP OUR HEADS UNDER A LOT OF WATER OF WHEN WANT GET TO THAT POINT IN ALL THIS PLANNING THOSE SORT OF THINGS US TO START PLANNING OTHER SCOPES OF WORK SOME PROJECTS OR POTENTIALLY FACILITIES AND GRANT FUNDS. SO THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER CONVERSATION FOR US INTERNAL BUT WE WANT TO TRY TO BE A COMMUNITY PARTNER AND USE THAT PROCESS. I DON'T THINK THAT ULTIMATELY WE'RE GOING TO DO ANY OF THAT STUFF BACK BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE YOURSELF TELLING US ALL THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE'RE A LITTLE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT FIRE PROTECTION OR MAKING SURE WE GOT WATER MAINS OR WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND JUST DO THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS FROM AN APPARENT STANDPOINT TO DO THAT ANYMORE.

WE'RE GOING MISS THE OPPORTUNITY. THE WINDOWS IS LIKE YOU SAY IT IS THERE NOW FUNDING THAT IT MAY NOT BE THERE FOR MORE SO WE WANT TO CAPTURE IT WHEN WE CAN.

SO YOU AND I ARE ON THE EXACT SAME PAGE HERE WHEN YOU'VE GOT A DEVELOPER THAT'S BRINGING MONEY TO THE TABLE WE WILL HAVE THEY'LL PAY FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ALL WE'RE DOING IN THE RURAL AREA WE DON'T HAVE THAT. SO OUR OUR FIRST PLACE WE'RE GOING TO GO IS WHAT TO THE LOCAL COUNTY? OKAY BUT WE NEED TO GET A GRANT RIGHT? THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET THESE PROJECTS ARE SO BIG AND SO EXPENSIVE THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO MAKE YOU KNOW RIGHT.

BUT WE YOU KNOW, TOGETHER I THINK WE COULD GET TO THAT POINT HAVING A VISION AND THEN TRYING TO PURSUE WHAT FUNDING SOURCE MAKES THE MOST SENSE AND WHAT ARE OF NATURAL ENVIRONMENTS AND HOW WE ACHIEVE THAT TOGETHER AND ALL THE OTHER GET IT OUT OF THE WEEDS OF IT RIGHT TODAY WE CAN'T DO THOSE THINGS AS EFFICIENTLY AS I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE EVEN HERE IN THE NEXT SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS WE CAN HAVE SOME REALLY MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS ON THAT. THANK YOU YOUR COMMENTS QUESTIONS.

YEAH SO THE COMMENTS YOU KNOW IF YOU COULD STICK AROUND FOR 5 MINUTES BECAUSE WE'RE BEGINNING A PROCESS OF KIND OF A MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL PROCESS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT A SHARED LAND USE FIGURE, YOU KNOW, AMONG THE VARIOUS JURISDICTIONS AS YOU'VE HEARD ME AND JASPER COUNTY GET A LITTLE BIT OF AND SO WE SEE AN I GUESS BOTH WE WANT TO KNOW FROM FROM PEOPLE YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT ARE THE LIMITATIONS FOR GROWTH WHERE THE THE PINCH POINTS FOR YOU KNOW CAPACITY ISSUES BUT ALSO I THINK THAT YOU KNOW AS WE MOVE THAT FORWARD THEN THAT PROVIDES A REALLY GOOD FRAMEWORK TO TELL HOW IN A BROAD SENSE WHERE WE ANTICIPATE GROWING IN A REGION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME SORT OF SHARED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AMONG FUTURISTIC SHIPS.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT. I THINK THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE WE WANT TO GET WITH THESE CONVERSATIONS. FOR US IT'S VERY LIKE BLOCKING AND BECAUSE WE'RE IN FOOTBALL SEASON TYPE APPROACH TO THIS STUFF WE HAVE 500 PLUS LIVE STATIONS EACH ONE WITH THEIR OWN UNIQUE CHALLENGES AND MANY OF THEM ARE PIGGYBACKED ON EACH OTHER.

SO AS I MAKE CHANGES HERE CERTAINLY IMPACT THAT HAS GONE DOWNSTREAM.

SO IT KIND OF STARTS WITH WHAT IS YOUR SHARED LAND USE AND HOW DOES THAT FIT IN FOR THE AMOUNT OF WASTEWATER THAT WE SHOULD HAVE JUST FROM LARGER AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT MORE GRANULAR APPROACHES WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR LIVE STATIONS AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THAT DOWN THE ROAD . EVERYTHING I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT'S TO US THAT'S THE PLANNING PIECE THAT WE REALLY WANT IT TO BE ABLE AT ONCE WE GET THAT TO OUR MODEL MINISTER THAT THE MASTER COMES OUT. THAT'S WHERE THAT PLAN IS HUGE .

WE NEED TO HAVE THE INFORMATION FROM EVERYONE HERE IN ORDER TO DO THAT PLAN THAT SUPER BOWL AS CAME TO US AND AGAIN ONCE WE USE IT TO WE CAN USE IT FOR DEVELOPMENT BUT WE CAN ALSO USE IT FOR MASTER PLANNING AND THAT'S WHERE ALL THE INFORMATION IS COMING FROM.

WE WANT ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE COOPERATION BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO MEET EVERY NEED THAT'S OUT THERE FOR JASPER COUNTY. SO AT A BOARD MEETING YESTERDAY WE WERE THAT THE COST OF EXPANSION OR CHERRY POINT WASTEWATER IS $116 MILLION WHICH IS A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED A YEAR OR SO AGO BASED ON INFLATION AND ON SUPPLY CHAIN AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES. SO WE GOT SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES THAT EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AND GOVERNMENTAL HAVE IN TERMS OF CIVIL ABILITY OF RESOURCES IN ORDER TO DO IT.

I'VE IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULDN'T TRY AND TRY TO TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GREAT THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THERE ARE LIMITS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF WITH THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO HELP SO. I THINK THE IDEA OF A COOPERATION COMMUNICATION PRIORITIZATION ARE IMPORTANT THINGS FOR US TO TALK ABOUT

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WORKING TOGETHER BUT WE HAVE LIMITS ON THE AVAILABILITY RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE JUST LIKE CITIES MECHANICS HAVE ALSO WE'VE SEEN HUGE INCREASES IN OUR CAPITAL COSTS JUST LIKE MONEY. AND WHAT DID THEY SAY YESTERDAY GIVES US A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE PER MONTH OR WE HAVE TO I MEAN IT'S SIGNIFICANT FOR US IT'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A MONTH.

SO IT'S IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE AND 2.1 MORE IS REALLY STRAINING EVEN THE PROJECTS WE HAVE PLANS YOU KNOW WE'RE GETTING RFP RESPONSES THAT SAYS THE PRICE IS GOOD FOR YOU YOU'LL BE LUCKY IF YOU GET 30 IF YOU'RE WORK IF YOU GET 30 DAYS OUT THE PRICE IS FOR 30 DAYS YOU DON'T SIGN IT GOES UP . WHAT IS IT? ONE OF THE QUOTES WE HAD YESTERDAY WAS 15 DAY ONE. YEAH, I'VE GOT TO MAKE A DECISION NOW. YOU GOT TO YOU TO BE READY TO MOVE FAST AND HOPEFULLY THAT YOU KNOW THAT LEVELS OFF BUT AGAIN I THINK THAT MAKES IT ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT WORK TOGETHER TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN BE EFFICIENT NUMBER ONE AND THEN HOW WE CAN POSSIBLY FUND SOME OF THESE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR CODIFYING THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNICATION COOPERATION, PARTNERING AND WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND APPRECIATE THE INVITE TO THE WORKSHOP THAT YOU'RE HAVING NEXT MONTH. SO LOT FOR US TO THINK ABOUT SHARING BEFORE OUR IN NOVEMBER AND IT'S A COUPLE YEAH AS SOON AS WE GET THOSE DATES I'D BE GREAT. GOSH. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY IF YOU WISH WE WOULD TRY TO KEEP IT TO AN HOUR WE'VE GOT ONE OTHER ITEM AND TALK ABOUT ROBERT.

[8. REPORT BACK FROM SOLOCO ON GROWTH BOUNDARIES – COUNCIL MEMBER ALICE HOWARD]

YOU WANT TO ALEX ROBERT UPDATE ON THE LOCAL REGIONAL ROAD TASK FORCE.

THEY MET TUESDAY AFTERNOON SO LOCAL STATE CRIME STREET I'M WORKING ON IT YEAH I'M WORKING ON IT SO THIS I'LL JUST START OUT I MEAN THIS IS AN ISSUE OF BIAS SO LOCAL LEADERSHIP IS BACK AND PEOPLE THE ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP THAT THEY'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN SOME SORT OF SHARED VISION FOR A FUTURE GROUP. YOU KNOW, THEY CROSS JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES AND OUT OF THAT CAME THIS IDEA TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE CALLED THE SO LOCAL GROUPS SUBCOMMITTEE THINK I'M GOING TO WAIT TO TO YES NO PRESSURE YEAH JUST YOU IT ON IDEA I GOT IT TO SHOW UP UP IN HERE JUST TO BE HONEST I FORGOT TO THESE GENTLEMEN I THINK THAT THIS PRESENTATION PROBABLY BE ON THAT COMPUTER UNTIL TOMORROW SO HERE WE GO THEN. VERY GOOD. SO OUT OF THIS CAME THIS THIS IDEA OF A SUMMER OF GROWTH AND SO LOOK IF YOU GO TO NEXT SLIDE I NEED TO BE ABLE TO HIT THAT ARROW RIGHT BEHIND YOUR HEAD. YOU KNOW WE HAVE POWER NOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING UP OPTIONS. MAYBE NOT. OH MAYBE NOT WIRELESS BUT THE TOUCH SCREEN. YEAH, YOU JUST TRY IT BUT LET'S TRY IT THIS WAY.

DID IT WORK? I'LL SAY NO. NO, I GUESS NOT EVERYBODY HOLD AROUND AND DO IT BACK UP 23 VERY PROMINENT. WE'RE BACK TO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. YEAH. SO THIS COMMITTEE AS YOU KNOW IS BASICALLY MADE UP OF PLANNERS OR MANAGERS TOWN MANAGERS, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER. SO IT'S A STAFF DRIVEN GROUP. WE MET FIRST IN EARLY JULY AND AT THAT POINT THEY APPOINTED ME AS CHAIR FRAZIER WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AS VICE CHAIR BUT WE'RE REALLY WE HAVE WE'VE HAD THREE MEETINGS OF THE TWO MEETINGS WE HAD HANDED OVER COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR LACK OF A BETTER PLACE TO MEET. WE ACTUALLY NEEDED A BIGGER TABLE THE NEXT TIME. YOU KNOW WE JUST HAD A LOT OF WE HAD SOME PEOPLE BECAUSE

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OF CONSERVATION. LEE JOINS MARY RYAN AND DAVE TRAIL ARE YOU A STATE AND CHERYL CRUTCHFIELD WITH HER WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DISTRICT HAS JOINED US SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST YOU KNOW, IN SEEING THIS PROCESS MOVE FORWARD AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE PUT TOGETHER WHAT WE BELIEVED TO BE A BASIC PROGRAM AND LAST TUESDAY WE PRESENTED THAT TO SO LOCO AND SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THAT PRESENTED WE GAVE GO FIGURE THE NEXT SLIDE THE IDEA IN THIS SHOULD SOUND VERY FAMILIAR. A LOT OF THIS IS MODELED AFTER THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN NORTHERN COUNTY BUT IT'S DEFINING A SHARED FUTURE GROWTH CONSERVATION AND LAND USE FRAMEWORK FOR THE LOCAL REGION WHILE RECOGNIZING THE UNIQUE QUALITIES OF EACH JURISDICTION . AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE'VE ALL LEARNED FROM THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY THE BENEFIT OF THIS APPROACH.

YOU KNOW WE HAVE THIS WE HAVE THE SHARED VISION SO THAT AS COUNTY OR THE MUNICIPALITIES GROW THERE'S NOT THIS YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE EARLY 2000 WHERE THERE'S YOU KNOW, ANY TIME SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING LOCALLY NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS ARE LIKE WHAT ARE YOU UP TO? YOU KNOW? AND I THINK RIGHT NOW WE GENERALLY ARE SINGING FROM THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC AND IT HAS REALLY HELPED US, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORK TOGETHER IS IN THE NORTHERN REGION THE IDEAS HAVE A SIMILAR KIND OF FRAMEWORK FOR THE WHOLE SO LOCAL REGION FOR THE FOR THE PEOPLE ARE NOT WHAT ARE THEY CLASSIFYING AS THE REGION WELL THE REGION HERE AND I WOULD SAY THAT THAT YOU KNOW THIS WOULD BE A SHARED VISION ACROSS A REGION WHICH IS BEAUFORT AND COUNTY IT REALLY MOST OF IT IS FOCUSING C OR OF I-95 YOU KNOW THERE'S SOME AREAS OF HARDY THAT OR SOME AREAS YOU MIGHT SEE THAT KIND OF GO ON THE OTHER SIDE IN 95. BUT GENERALLY THAT AREA IS KIND OF YOU KNOW MORE RURAL AND WE'D LIKE TO BRING IN RICHLAND AS WELL SORT OF RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT A PARTNER SO LOCAL BUT SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REGION YET WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT REGION NORTHERN COUNTY WE ALREADY HAVE A GOOD GROWTH FRAMEWORK FOR NORTHERN COUNTY .

THE IDEA IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY USE THIS PROCESS IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT THE IDEA IS NOT TO YOU KNOW REINVENT THE WHEEL FOR NORTHERN COUNTY IN SOUTHERN. WELL WE LOOK AT BLUFFTON AND HELP HEAD NOT A LOT OF RADICAL CHANGES OVER THERE. THE REAL FOCUS AREA I THINK IS PRIMARILY SOUTH OF THE BROAD FROM 170 GOING WEST YOU KNOW LOOKING AT THAT WHERE BEAUFORT COUNTY, JASPER COUNTY CITY, HARTSVILLE, BLUFFTON ALL KIND OF EAT IN AND I WOULD SAY ANOTHER AREA WOULD BE GMAC AND THEY'RE THE PROCESS OF DOING THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THIS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT. SO YOU KNOW IT'S THAT WHOLE REGION BUT YOU KNOW A LOT OF TAS WHERE WE SHARE JURISDICTION AND A LOT OF THAT IS KIND OF LIKE THERE IS AS WE'RE GOING WEST IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE COMPONENTS OF THIS I MEAN ONCE AGAIN WE REALLY AT THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN AS A MODEL A UNIFIED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THIS IS SORT OF LIKE A 20,000 FOOT VIEW. SO WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE NORTH REGIONAL PLAN WHERE HAVE FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICTS THAT KIND OF GET THE RIGHT EXPECTATIONS OF THE CHARACTER, THE INTENSITY OF LAND USE IN THOSE AREAS YOU KNOW AND PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK FOR WHEN FUTURE REZONINGS OR ANNEXATION YOU KNOW COME ACROSS TO EACH LOCAL JURISDICTION TO TO TO FOLLOW THAT LAND USE PLAN ACROSS BOUNDARIES I THINK BLUFFTON AND ALREADY FEEL KIND OF ALREADY HAVE GROUP BOUNDARIES DEFINED WE WANT TO GET THOSE THINGS MAPPED LOOK AT THEM YOU KNOW AND KIND OF LOOK AT THEM AND HOW THEY WORK ACROSS JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES AND THE REGION AND THEN ONCE AGAIN DEFINING THE RULES OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES WITHIN AND OUTSIDE THE GROUP BOUNDARIES WE TALKED ABOUT SHARED STANDARDS THAT HAVE CROSS JURISDICTIONAL IMPACTS. THIS IS ACTUALLY IN OUR DISCUSSION THAT'S SO LOW CODE SEEM TO BE WELL YOU KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO STORMWATER YOU KNOW THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT THAT BALANCE BETWEEN WORKING JOINTLY AS A REGION AND PROVIDING THAT LOCAL YOU KNOW, PROVIDING YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND SO YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, FIRST THREE STEPS ARE THE BIG STEPS THAT

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NEED TO TAKEN AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THESE SHARED INTERESTS? YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE POOR PLANNING 170 WITH COUNTY ON ONE SIDE, JASPER ON THE OTHER WITH HARTVILLE THROWING IN THERE A FEW PLACES SO THAT YOU KNOW THERE MIGHT BE FOCUS ON SOME AREAS LIKE THAT WHERE HAVING JOINT STANDARDS OR LOOKING GREATER DETAIL MAKES SENSE TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AND SO THIS REALLY GETS TO I GUESS WHAT WE WERE TALKING BEFORE JASPER HOW TO GET THERE AND WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT A BROAD STEPS THAT WE'LL BE TAKING A STAFF AND IN BRINGING THIS FORWARD SO BOTH SO AS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS BUT WE'RE REALLY STARTING WITH SHARING INFORMATION YOU KNOW OF LOVED IT HEARTY THEY'LL HAVE A LOT OF APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AND LARGE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS A FEW DAYS BEFORE COUNTY HAS SEEN THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING ONLINE JUST SHARING THAT INFORMATION KNOWING WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE WHICH ARE OCCURRING IN A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THINGS ARE MORE IMMINENT THAN OTHERS AND WHAT THINGS ARE THEY BEEN APPROVED 15 YEARS AGO WITH AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. YOU KNOW ALL OF THAT AND THEN LOOKING AT EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT'S WHERE CONSULTATIONS WITH JASPER YOU KNOW WHAT MERITS WHAT IS THE AVAILABILITY OF INFRASTRUCTURE ,WHAT ARE THE CONSTRAINTS TO GROWTH WHEN YOU LOOK AT UTILITIES, ELECTRIC BROADBAND AND SCHOOLS WORK CLOSELY WITH ENGINEERING AND SOME ALCOHOL FOR ROADS, YOU KNOW SO REALLY TAKING OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR GROWTH AND OR IMPACT MICROBES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER THEN I PROBABLY NEED TO MENTION HERE WE'RE ALSO LOOKING YOU KNOW THOSE NATURAL AREAS LOOKING AT PRESERVE LANDS CONSTRAINTS YOU KNOW NATURAL THE GROWTH AREAS THAT WE YOU KNOW WANT TO YOU KNOW REALLY PREVENT FROM DEVELOPING AT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND LOOK ACROSS THE REGION IDENTIFYING THE SHARED VISION FOR WHAT THOSE AREAS ARE ,HAVING ALL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AND THEN START FOCUSING OKAY WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF FUTURE LAND USE PLAN? SO THAT'S THAT'S THE IDEA OF FORWARD IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND YOU KNOW ONCE AGAIN WE WANT TO WORK CLOSELY WITH ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED BY GROWTH, MULTIPLE PEOPLE YOU KNOW IF WE ARE TARGETING GROWTH TO WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE NARRATIVE TO SUPPORT THAT.

SO THERE'S DEFINITELY WE WANT WORK WITH THAT IN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH SO LOCAL REALLY THE MODEL FOR YOU KNOW MOVING FORWARD IS YOU KNOW THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA IS A COOPERATIVE COOPERATIVE MODEL. WE HAVE NOTHING COMPELLING US TO WORK TOGETHER SO IT'S THAT YOU KNOW ONCE AGAIN IGAD YOU KNOW ALL GREEN TO JOIN AND TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS SO IN THAT WAY I THINK THE POSITIVE IS NOBODY AND NOTHING'S BEING FORCED ON ANYONE. YOU KNOW IT'S KIND OF ALL, YOU KNOW, AGREEING TO COME TO THE TABLE AND TO THIS. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE DOWNSIDE IS, YOU KNOW, REALLY IT'S AS GOOD AS PEOPLE WILLING DO TO CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN NORTHERN COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS SO I THINK OPTIMISTICALLY AS A REGION WE'LL SEE THE BENEFIT OF THIS PROCESS IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS KIND OF THE DELIVERABLES YOU KNOW WOULD BE A FUTURE LAND USE CAP DEFINING THE BROAD FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICTS WHOSE AREAS YOU KNOW THE TARGET PRESERVATION PROGRAM AND INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS AND THEN THE OTHER THING AND THIS WAS SOMETHING IN SOUTHERN DISTRICT FOR THAT WAS OF THE SOUTHERN RESTRAINTS THAT IS DEFINING A FOR PROJECTS THAT WE SHARE WITH EACH LOCAL JURISTIC RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS A 7170 WEEK SALT PLUS FRANKLY I THINK BRINGING MORE PARTNERS IN THAT PROCESS IS SOMETHING WE'RE DOING AS WELL. SO THAT'S KIND OF FRAMEWORK. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY IS RIGHT NOW IS IS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CAPACITY OF VERSUS EXISTING STAFFS TO MOVE THIS FORWARD BUT YOU KNOW WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP THIS MOMENTUM AT THE END. WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LOCAL PERIODICALLY GATHER THIS FOR TO

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OUR PROGRESS WITH SOME QUESTIONS COMMENTS THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

I CLEARLY CAN SAY THAT THE AUTHORITY IS LOOKING FORWARD TO JOINING THIS GROUP.

I'LL BE ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ROB. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE.

[9. LIST OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

I ALSO JUST SITTING IN ON THOSE MEETINGS RIGHT. WE'RE AT THE POINT AT THE LAST POINT THE MEETING OF OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEM THINK ON OUR TOPICS LIST TALKING WITH ECONOMICS DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND INVITING HIM TO BE IN ORDER WOULD YOU AGREE.

YEAH RIGHT. WE HAVE AN ISSUE FOR SEPTEMBER'S MEETING I'M SURE I MEAN YOU ASKED ME IF I WOULD CHAIR SEVEN TIMES I WILL BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY ALSO AT THAT DATE SO I'LL BE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY. SO ANYBODY GOING BE SO DO WE WANT TO CANCEL SEPTEMBER'S DO WE WANT TO CANCEL RIGHT DO WE WANT TO CANCEL SEPTEMBER? IS IT JUST MOVE ON FROM THERE THE QUESTION I THINK YEAH RIGHT YEAH I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GET DESIGNATION WELL WE DON'T YOU KNOW I THINK SEND OUT A CALL AND THAT'S OUT IN AN EMAIL. ALL RIGHT. WELL AT THE MOMENT WELL LET'S HAVE NEXT TOPIC THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND A COUPLE OF UPDATES FROM REGIONAL AND LOCAL AND IS ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD IN THE FTC STATUS STRUCTURE AND SO ON? YEAH, KIND OF LIKE THAT. WELL COMING UP NEXT AND THEN COULD I COULD I SUGGEST A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO OUR LIST SURE ABSOLUTELY SO GIVEN TO THE COUNCIL AT OUR WORK ON TUESDAY WE DISCUSSED WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A NAME FOR IT YET SOME TYPE LIKE CLIMATE RESILIENCY OR SOME TYPE OF TASK FORCE I WE HAD A MEETING AT CITY HALL WITH A AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROFESSIONAL. SHE WAS COMING DOWN GREENVILLE IN HER TESLA AND CALLED AND SAID SHE WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT AN HOUR BECAUSE SHE HAD TO GO TO HARTVILLE BECAUSE THEY WERE THE CLOSEST PLACE FOR THE TESLA SO THAT SHE COULD GET ENOUGH JUICE TO DRIVE TO BEAUFORT TO BE WITH AND THEN GET FAR ENOUGH HELP. SO THAT WAS SORT OF A LIGHT BULB MOMENT FOR US THAT YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, THESE ARE THE FUTURE.

WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND COUNSEL.

WHAT'S THE PUBLIC ROLE IN PUTTING IN CHARGING STATIONS RIGHT? SHOULD THEY BE IN PUBLIC FACILITIES. SHOULD THEY BE FREE? SHOULD THEY CHARGE WHAT'S OUR REGULATION LOOK LIKE? I'M TOLD THAT FOLKS ARE COMING IN TO PUT CHARGING STATIONS AND NOT ALL OF US HAVE CLEAR POLICY A CLEAR REGULATION IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW SO THAT THERE'S AN EV COMPONENT I THINK IT READING A FAIR AMOUNT ABOUT THE HEAT EFFECT THAT'S HAPPENING YOU KNOW THE SUMMER'S BEEN PARTICULARLY HOT BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ONE WHERE I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE CLEAR POLICY THAT'S SORT OF WOVEN THROUGH OUR FRAMEWORK SO LIKE WHEN WE DO ROAD PROJECTS, RIGHT IS THAT SOMETHING LET'S PUT MORE STREET TREES OUT FOR SHADE IS IT SOME OF THESE CREATIVE COATINGS THAT CITIES ARE USING ? AND THEN THE THIRD PIECE IS A RENEWABLE ENERGY PIECE SAID HE PUT SOLAR PANELS ON FOR OUR FACILITIES A FEW YEARS AGO. IT'S BEEN WORKING REALLY WELL.

SHOULD WE DO MORE? SHOULD WE DO LESS. ALSO ON THE REGULATORY SIDE ARE WE PROHIBITING RENEWABLE DEPLOYMENT BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR? IS THERE A WAY WE CAN HELP? SO ANYWAY THERE'S A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS I THINK FROM A CITY STANDPOINT WE TALKED ABOUT FORMING OUR OWN SMALL TASK FORCE JUST FOR THE CITY BUT. THEN SOMEONE BROUGHT IT UP THAT MAYBE IT'S A REGIONAL CONVERSATION WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER PARTNERS LIKE THE COUNTY AND PORT ROYAL AND MAYBE WE HAVE A JOINT TASK FORCE AND BRING IN SOME HIGH HORSEPOWER. WE TALKED TO THE COAST CONSERVATION LEAGUE AND THE OPEN LAND TRUST. THEY HAVE SOME RESOURCES AROUND THE STATE THEY THINK THEY COULD GET TO THE TABLE SO I JUST PLANT THAT SEED FURTHER THOUGHT AND MAYBE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WE CAN CIRCLE BACK AROUND AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THAT A TITLE? I MEAN YOU'VE TALKED A LOT ON HUMAN SUBJECTS THIS KIND OF A RESILIENCY CLIMATE. OH YEAH.

I MEAN YOU A LITTLE POLITICAL WORD THAT WHOLE THING BUT MAYBE RESILIENCY TASK FOR GOOD.

YES WE'LL PUT THAT DOWN AS A FUTURE ITEM TO DISCUSS. ALL RIGHT.

I WILL SEND OUT A NOTICE TO SEE IF WE HAVE A QUORUM FOR JUST TEMPORARY 22ND MEETING.

IT'S NOT FOR MEETING UNTIL OCTOBER . WE MIGHT BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY IN OCTOBER . I I SAY HANGING HERE WITH THAT IN ORDER UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS MOTION ADJOURNMENT YOUR SECOND. THANK YOU EVERYBODY

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.