Aug 10, 2023 Town of Hilton Head Public Planning Committee

WHO WOULD LIKE TO LEAD OFF PATSY? SURE.

HE'S LEAVING WHEN I WANTED TO TALK .

THAT'S OKAY.

I, I APOLOGIZE.

UM, SO YES, UM, BECAUSE BRIDGE TO BEACH IS THE NEXT WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING.

AND BECAUSE I KEEP CALLING IT BRIDGE, MOST BEACH, I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO TO THE BEACH NEXT.

AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, FART BEACH AREA, ESPECIALLY DUE TO THE, UH, IMPACT, UH, A LOT OF, UM, CONVERSION FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHAT SOME PEOPLE CALL MCMANSIONS, MANY HOTELS, UM, AND THE, UH, THE HEAT MAP THERE THAT WE SEE WITH STR.

UM, SO I, I WOULD, UH, UH, GO TO THAT ONE NEXT.

UM, AND UM, I THINK WE SAID CHECK IN NEXT IN SKULL CREEK, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SKULL CREEK MOVED UP TO BE SECOND, UH, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE ESTONIA AREA PLAN IN THE 2 78 CORRIDOR.

AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE THERE.

UM, IT, UH, TO GO AHEAD AND, AND LOOK AT THAT AS A DISTRICT AND FIGURE OUT, UH, WHAT NEEDS TO BE, WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT WE HOPE WILL OR WON'T HAPPEN IN THAT AREA.

LEMME PULL UP THE DISTRICT MAP.

YEAH, I'LL PULL IT BACK.

UM, YEAH.

TO THIS ONE HERE, SEE IT.

UM, AND THEN, UM, AND I THINK THE CHAPLAIN AREA WOULD BE NEXT.

UM, AND, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER MAIN STREET, UM, YOU MENTIONED, I THINK, UH, I THINK MAYBE TYING SOME OF THESE TO OUR QUARTER PLAN WOULD BE HELPFUL.

UM, AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE MAIN STREET QUARTER AREA NEXT 'CAUSE OF THAT, UM, IMPACT IN THAT AREA, UM, THEN PERHAPS THAT NEEDS TO BE UP THERE AS WELL.

UM, PARKWAY KNOW WHERE PARKWAY IS.

YEP, I GOT THAT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT CAN BE LOWER IN THE WEST.

UM, AND DID I LEAVE OUT ANYBODY? NO, THAT, THAT, SO I HAVE YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS AS FOREST BEACH, SKULL CREEK, CHAPLAIN, MAIN STREET AND PARKWAY.

THAT'S WHAT I'D RECOMMEND.

BECKER.

WELL, UM, THIS IS A PROCESS, RIGHT? SO, UM, I WILL AGREE THAT, UM, NUMBER TWO ON THE MAP, SO IF ANYONE CAN'T SEE WHAT THAT IS, NUMBER TWO IS REFERRING TO SKULL CREEK.

MM-HMM.

AND, UM, BECAUSE OF THE PRESSURE THERE WITH REGARD TO THE BRIDGE, I THINK SKULL CREEK SHOULD BE, UM, THE NEXT FOCUSED ON.

UM, AND THEN I'M PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE COMING BACK TO THREE AND LOOKING AT MAIN STREET, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE, UM, SET THAT UP FOR SUCCESS.

AND THEN GOING TO THE, UM, UM, FOREST BEACH AND THE PARKWAY AND CHAPLAINS.

I HIT THEM ALL.

DID I? YES.

MR. STANDARD.

UM, WHAT'S THE, UH, THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU'VE ASSIGNED TO THESE? SO WE, WHEN WE DID OUR, UM, EVALUATION, I THINK IT HAD

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UM, WE KNOW THE PRIMARY PRESS PRESSURE POINTS WITH THE L M O AND DEVELOPMENT HAVE BEEN IN THE, THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, OR PRIMARILY THE RESIDENTIAL WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTALS.

SO, UM, MARSHES, WE KNOW THE PRESSURE THERE, BRIDGE TO THE BEACH BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY, UM, THE DISTRICT HAS THE MOST CENTERS AND ACTIVITY AND, UM, AND SO TO, AND, AND OPPORTUNITY WITH THE RIGHT, WITH THE CORRIDORS AND, AND EVERYTHING.

UM, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING A CONSERVE AND A AND A STRATEGIC CONSERVATION GROWTH DISTRICT.

UM, FIRST, AND THAT'S WHY MARSHES AND BRIDGER BEACH.

BUT THE REMAINING, UH, WE, WE FOCUSED ON THE NEXT THREE WHERE THERE WAS MORE RESIDENTIAL PRESSURE THAN, THAN NON-RESIDENTIAL PRESSURE.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL INTEGRATE THE MAJOR THOROUGH, THOROUGH AFFAIRS CORRIDORS PLAN AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONNECTIVITY, POTENTIALLY PARALLEL ROADS OR, OR ALTERNATIVE NETWORK ADJUSTMENTS IN ALL OF THESE DISTRICTS.

UM, BUT, BUT OUR FOCUS WAS, LET'S CONTINUE ON THIS COURSE WHERE WE'RE, UH, FOCUSING ON THE RESIDENTIAL PRESSURE POINTS, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DEAL WITH MOST OFTEN.

I THINK THE PARKWAY IS RE IN MY OPINION, I KNOW PARKWAY, WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS A LOT OF THAT WITH A CORRIDOR PLAN AND THE TREATMENT, AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DEPTH IN THAT SECTION.

SO FOR ME, I, I THINK THERE'S LESS PRESSURE FROM A PLANT DISTRICT PLANNING, UM, STANDPOINT.

I THINK MAIN STREET IS INTERESTING, BUT MAIN STREET'S ALREADY BUILT OUT AND I THINK THE ROADWAY CONFIGURATION, BY THE TIME WE'RE READY TO DO THAT AND IMPLEMENT IT, HAVING THE LAND USE, UM, UH, INTEGRATED LAND USE AND THE OTHER THINGS, MOBILITY, UH, TRANSIT, ALL THOSE THINGS, WE'RE GONNA EVALUATE THE DISTRICT PLAN AND THE CORRIDOR PLAN.

I THINK IT WOULD LINE UP A LITTLE LATER IN THE PROCESS.

SO THAT WAS STAFF'S, UM, RATIONALE FOR RECOMMENDING FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX ON THIS LIST THAT WERE PRIMARILY THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHERE THERE'S PRESSURE.

UM, I AGREE THAT PARKWAY CAN REMAIN, UM, AT NUMBER EIGHT.

UH, I ALSO AGREE WITH MS. BRYSON THAT I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO MOVE SKULL CREEK UP BECAUSE OF THE CARTER IMPACTS.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I WILL ADOPT, UH, THE REST OF MS. BRYSON'S SUGGESTIONS AND I WOULD SIMPLY STOP CHAPLAIN FOR SKULL CREEK.

UM, AGAIN, I AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID ABOUT SKULL CREEK AND, UH, CHAPLAIN HAS RESIDENTIAL IN IT ALSO.

SO I WOULD, I'M, I'M, AS YOU HAVE SUGGESTED, WITH SWAPPING CHAPLAIN FOR SKULL CREEK.

UM, SO, UM, IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THAT, ARE THERE STRONG, UH, OBJECTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS? OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE MID ISLAND MARSHES BRIDGE TO THE BEACH, FOREST BEACH, SKULL CREEK CHAPLAIN MAIN STREET PARKWAY.

SO MOVED.

UM, SORRY, I, I APOLOGIZE.

NOW I'M LOST.

I SIMPLY FLIPPED THESE TWO.

SO YOU MADE THE RECOMMENDATION SKULL CREEK HERE AND THEN CHAPLAIN.

SO BASICALLY YOU AND I WERE SAYING THE SAME THING EXCEPT FOR FLIPPING FIVE AND SIX ON THAT LIST.

WELL I THOUGHT YOU MOVED SKULL CREEK UP.

I DID.

AND I I THOUGHT YOU SAID SWITCH 'EM.

THAT'S WHERE I GOT CONFUSED.

I HAVE IN MY NOTES, I HAVE, UM, YOUR RECOMMENDATION, UH, MS. BRYSON THE SAME AS, AS DAVID.

ALRIGHT, MR. AMES.

AND, AND GLENN, I BELIEVE YOURS WAS THE SAME CORRECT.

AS WELL, RIGHT? SO I MISINTERPRETED WHAT PATSY SAID.

I THOUGHT SHE WANTED SKULL CREEK TO COME NEXT.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I DID.

THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSED.

YOU SAY NEXT? YEAH, FOREST BEACH, THEN SKULL CREEK, THEN CHAPLIN, THEN MAIN STREET, THEN .

THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.

SO WE HAVEN'T DONE BRIDGE TO BEACH, THAT'S WHY.

NO, IT'S, IT'S, YEAH, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, THAT'LL COME FORWARD THE DRAFT NEXT MONTH.

OH, I WAS INCLUDING BRIDGE TO THE BEACH IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS.

OH.

SO YEAH, WE HAVE THREE ONE'S ADOPTED, TWO ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY.

SO IT'S THE BA FROM FOUR TO EIGHT.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE FOREST BEACH, SKULL CREEK, CHAPLAIN MAIN STREET PARKWAY.

IS THAT OKAY? THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.

WE HAVE A FULL CONSENSUS ON THAT.

DO YOU NEED A VOTE? SURE.

THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT IT AS I MOVE.

SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SECOND.

AYE.

OPPOSED? LIKE SAME.

PROCESS WITH A MASTER PLAN AND DISTRICT PLANNING.

UM, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THERE IS A PROJECT WEBSITE, UM, ON THE TOWN'S WEBPAGE.

AND, UM, IT, EVERYTHING CAN BE, UM, TRACKED AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS

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UM, BY UTILIZING THAT, THAT LINK, UM, THE NEXT BIT, AND WE WILL REARRANGE BASED ON THE PRIORITIZATION, WE TOOK A LIBERTY TO SAY, BASED ON OUR PRIORITY, HERE'S THE SCHEDULE FOR ENGAGEMENT.

UM, WE'RE, UH, WORKING NOW AS WE'VE GOT A DRAFT DISTRICT PLAN FOR MARSHES, UM, TO WORK ON A DISTRIBUTION OF A SURVEY TO ALL THE FOLKS IN THE MARSHES DISTRICT TO GET, UH, THEIR FEEDBACK.

UM, WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THIS IS READY TO COME TO COUNCIL, WE'LL WORK WITH, UM, THE COMMITTEE, UH, TOWN MANAGER AND THE MAYOR ON WHEN TO BRING THESE FORWARD.

WE'VE PUT THE WORK TO GET THE DISTRICT PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS TO A CERTAIN POINT AND THEN TO BRING ALL OF THE DISTRICTS TOGETHER FOR TOWN COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.

THAT CERTAINLY COULD CHANGE.

WE'VE TARGETED APRIL TO HAVE EVERYTHING COMPLETE, BE READY TO ADVANCE WITH A WORKSHOP WITH TOWN COUNCIL.

I THINK WHAT WE'VE LEARNED WITH A THOROUGH AFFAIRS PLAN AND SOME OTHERS, PROBABLY A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS WITH ONE OR TWO DISTRICTS AT A TIME WOULD MAKE SENSE.

AND WE ARE READY TO EXECUTE, UM, THE INTERIM WORKSHOPS AND GET THINGS ADOPTED IF THAT IS THE, THE WILL OF COUNSEL.

UM, WE KNOW THAT WE ARE PROBABLY NOT GONNA MAKE THE, THE L M O THE OVERHAUL OF THE ENTIRE L M O UNTIL WE HAVE THE FULLY INFORMED DISTRICT PLANS IN PLACE.

SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS A, A, A CONCERN FROM MY STANDPOINT FROM AN IMPLEMENTATION, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE METERING IT OUT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, GOSH, NOT COMING TO COUNCIL WITH A HUGE WORKSHOP TO TRY TO DIGEST ALL OF THIS.

SO, AND THE BENEFIT OF GOING THROUGH COMMITTEE HERE, UM, I, WHERE WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE IT FOR THE THOROUGH AFFAIRS PLAN, I THINK IS GONNA BE A BIG BENEFIT TO KEEP THIS EVERY MONTH WITH UPDATES.

CAN I ASK QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM.

PROTECTION IN OTHER AREAS.

UM, ONE IS, WHEN IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE THERE'S THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE DISTRICTS ARE ALL ABOUT AND WHAT IT MEANS TO THEIR COMMUNITY, WHAT'S THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS? UM, WE'LL SEND OUT WRITTEN NOTIFICATION.

WE'LL SEND OUT, UM, UM, MAILERS, EMAILS, THE DISTRIBUTION LISTS THAT WE HAVE AND FOLKS THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED TODAY CONTINUE TO GROW, UH, THE LIST OF, OF, UM, INTERESTED PARTIES.

UM, BUT WE WILL MAIL OUT, WE WILL PROVIDE LINKS TO SURVEYS.

UM, WE'LL HOST, UM, ONSITE MEETINGS, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, UH, STAKEHOLDER WORKSHOPS AT VARIOUS LOCATION.

I THINK THAT MAILING GOES TO ALL RESIDENTS AND WE WILL, WELL WE, WE SEND OUT TO ALL OWNERS OF RECORD THAT WE HAVE.

UM, AND, AND I, WE'LL, WE'LL CAST A, A WIDE NET AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THEIR PARTICIPATION THROUGHOUT.

AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONSERVING CONSIDER BUNDLES? SURE.

AND, AND I THINK IT'S, THIS IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE PLANNER SPEAK, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONSERVE OR CONSERVATION, THOSE ARE THE DISTRICTS I THINK WHERE YOU'VE GOT A SIGNIFICANT, UH, LIKE CONSERVATION, SO SIGNIFICANT, UM, PART OF THAT DISTRICT, UH, LIKE SAY THE MARSHES DISTRICT, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, ECOLOGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION THAT'S GONNA COME THERE.

UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, LET'S SAY, TO SUPPORT SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN INTENSITY.

UM, OR EVEN IF THERE'S, UM, SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO ALLOW IT, IT JUST, IT WOULDN'T BE RIGHT.

AND SO THERE'S GONNA BE DISTRICTS THAT ARE GONNA BE PRIMARILY OR, OR WEIGHTED ON THE CONSERVATION SIDE, AND WE TALK ABOUT, CONSIDER THOSE ARE AREAS THAT WE, UM, THAT EITHER ALREADY HAVE SORT OF A DYNAMIC ACTIVITY, UM, OR HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, HAVE THE LOCATION, HAVE THE CHARACTERISTICS TO, UH, EMBRACE ADDITIONAL AND, UM, ACTIVITY IN THOSE AREAS.

AND A LOT OF IT'S GONNA RESULT FROM PUBLIC INVESTMENT.

AND, AND THEN SETTING THE EXPECTATIONS FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO MAKE THOSE PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENTS TO ENHANCE.

I ALWAYS HAVE USED THE, THE STRING ANALOGY.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD A HOMOGENOUS, UM, LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE ISLAND, THE STRING WOULD BE KIND OF FLAT ALONG THE TABLE.

UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE BEING, UM, HONEST ABOUT WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN THAT SITUATION.

AND SO I THINK YOU NEED TO PULL THE STRING UP IN A COUPLE OF SPOTS, A FEW SPOTS, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE THE SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE, OR YOU'RE GONNA INSTALL THE SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE TO ADD MORE INTENSITY.

AND WHEN YOU PULL THE STRING UP, THE STRING HAS TO COME IN, IT HAS TO PROVIDE

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SO CONSERVE IT, CONSERVE IS, WE'RE GONNA PRIMARILY FOCUS ON PROTECTION.

UM, AND THE CONSIDER IS, LET'S THINK ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF THOSE, UH, THROUGHS STRATEGIC GROWTH WHERE ACTIVITY, UM, CAN OCCUR AT A DIFFERENT INTENSITY.

SORRY FOR THE LONG ANSWER, BUT NO, THAT WAS A GREAT ANSWER.

AND I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, AND I WOULD PROBABLY, UM, WANNA HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE.

LOOKING AT SOME OF THE AREAS THAT ARE, UM, UNDER THE CONSIDER CATEGORY, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NOT SPACE.

THERE REALLY IS EACH AND FOR FURTHER INTENSITY.

SURE.

SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.

YEP.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT JUST ONE THAT I'M LOOKING AT DAVID, I'M LOOKING AT SEVERAL I KNOW, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, EACH OF THEM IS A, IS A SUBJECTIVE MATTER AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE, ARE IN THEIR VOICE IN GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO ACTUALLY MAKING THOSE TYPES OF DECISIONS.

UM, I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON YOUR REQUEST FOR NOTIFICATION.

OFTENTIMES IN A REZONING WE SIMPLY PUT UP SIGNS.

I'M SUGGESTING THAT IN THIS SITUATION, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING, THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION, CONSIDER HAVING POSTING SIGNS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WELL, AND, AND JUST BACK TO MY POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE AREAS THROUGH THE LAST, UM, L M O REWRITE AND REZONING, UM, WERE SUBJECTED TO, UM, UM, FURTHER INTENSITY AND IT WAS REJECTED BY THE RESIDENTS.

AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT SAME MISTAKE IS COMING DOWN THE PIKE, AND I'M CERTAINLY, UM, SURE.

SUGGESTING THAT IT NEEDS MORE CONSIDERATION.

YES, MA'AM.

UNDERSTOOD.

AND WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR, A NEW MARKET DIRECTOR OF MARKETING.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, WHETHER IT'S PRESS RELEASES, OUR WEBSITE, THE DASHBOARD, THE PROJECT, THE, THE PROJECT, UM, DASHBOARD, UM, SIGNS, LETTERS TO LETTER, UM, TO PROPERTY OWNERS OF RECORD.

SO WE, WE WILL MAKE SURE THIS IS A ROBUST AND THIS, AND THIS PART OF IT ISN'T REZONING PROPERTY, BUT IT'S SETTING THE EXPECTATIONS FOR A FUTURE LAND USE THAT WOULD DRIVE A REZONING IN, IN THE FUTURE.

SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING SURE TO GET THE INPUT UP FRONT.

JOHN, I WOULD FOLLOW UP ON MS. BECKER'S COMMENT ABOUT YOUR TERMINOLOGY.

UM, I DON'T SPEAK PLANNER SPEAK, UM, AND I THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEARCH FOR SOME TERMINOLOGY OTHER THAN CONSERVE AND CONSIDER, UM, UH, PROTECT, ALLOW DEVELOPMENT, SOMETHING, UH, THERE.

UM, IT'S, IT'S MORE CLEAR NOT ONLY TO ME, BUT TO THE BROADER PUBLIC AS WELL.

I JUST WONDER WHETHER OR NOT THOSE WORDS ARE EVEN NECESSARY AT THIS LEVEL.

PROBAB.

PROBABLY NOT UNTIL WE GET INTO THE WORK AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITIES TO, TO UNDERSTAND THE EXPECTATIONS AND THE CAPACITY FOR CONSERVATION, THE CAPACITY FOR, UM, STRATEGIC GROWTH WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

UM, AND I DON'T WANNA NITPICK WORDS AGAIN, BUT COMMUNITY SURVEY I'M GOING IS THAT JUST GIMME A SURVEY AND, BUT YOUR DESCRIPTION IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE KEY THING IS TALK ABOUT IT IN THE MORE BROADER SENSE WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF OUTREACH.

AND THE OTHER INPUT I WOULD HAVE IS THAT WHEN WE HAVE GATHERINGS IN THE COMMUNITY, MAKE SURE ABOUT DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY AND DIFFERENT DAYS, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT WORK SCHEDULES ON THE ISLAND, DIFFERENT FAMILY COMMITMENTS.

UM, AND, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A VARIETY OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

WE WILL, UM, AS THIS GETS REFINED, WE'LL BRING YOU BACK THE MORE SPECIFIC DETAILED COMMUNICATION STRATEGY AND ALL THE DIFFERENT OUTLETS AND METHODS OF HOW THAT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED.

TO TRAFFIC IMPACT AND PROTECTION OF NATURAL RESOURCES THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS IN ON BEFORE WE, UM, DO THE COMPLETE OVERHAUL FOR THE L M O.

UM, A BRIEF L M O UM, UPDATE ON THE L M O PROCESS.

UM, WE HAVE FOUR A COMING UP IN A, IN A FEW MINUTES HERE FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT FLOOR A RATIO AND PARKING.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, PHASE FOUR, UM, WHICH IS A BALANCE OF, UM, OF CHANGES TO HELP PROVIDE SOME, UM, ADDITIONAL PROTECTION AND CLEAN UP SOME THINGS WHERE WE'VE GOT SOME PRESSURE POINTS.

AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE.

WE'VE LEARNED, UM, UH, UH, THAT WE NEED SOME APPLICATION PROCEDURAL CHANGES.

THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH, UH, L M O DISCUSSION, LMO ABOUT DISCUSSION ABOUT FAMILY COMPOUNDS AND SUBDIVISIONS AND WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN OUR DESIGN STUDIO, UM, AND SOME OTHER THINGS RELATED

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AND SO THE TEAM IS WORKING, UM, TO HAVE THESE ADVERTISED THIS MONTH FOR A SEPTEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND THEN BE ABLE TO BRING THESE BACK TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, UH, PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THE, OF THAT MEETING FOR CONSIDERATION.

YEP.

YOU, YOU HAVE A, A QUESTION ABOUT IT.

UM, I'VE BEEN CONCERNED FOR A LONG TIME, NOT ONLY ABOUT, UM, THE MASS SCALE DENSITY, THE FOUR AREA RATIO OF RESIDENTIAL, BUT ALSO NON-RESIDENTIAL.

AND I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE LIST.

AND I THINK IT WAS PARTICULARLY A CONCERN BY THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WHO CAME TO THE TOWN COUNCIL AND ASKED FOR SPECIFIC STANDARDS WITH REGARD TO MASS SCALE DENSITY FOR, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, SORRY, NON-RESIDENTIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS.

I DON'T MEAN COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, UM, ASIDE FROM SINGLE FAMILY, I'LL SAY IT THAT WAY.

SO WHERE IS THAT IN THE PROCESS? 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL NEED.

UM, AND, AND IT'S SOMETHING I'VE MENTIONED ABOUT EVERY TIME.

YES MA'AM.

AND SO WE'VE FOCUSED ON THE, THE FLOOR AIR RATIO AND THE, UM, ITEMS PRIMARILY FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT NON-RESIDENTIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT, THE CURRENT RESTRICTIONS IN THE CODE PROVIDE A, UH, A, I WOULD SAY A RESIDENT OR A SUBURBAN OR LOWER INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THERE, THERE IS A CONCERN, AT LEAST FROM MY STANDPOINT ON THE MULTI-FAMILY, THE DEFINITION, THE, THE POOR DEFINITION OF UNIT, WHICH ALLOWS MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS TO REALLY MAXIMIZE THE, THE SITE.

UM, AND IT'S PROBABLY INAPPROPRIATE, UH, BUT THE FLOOR AIR RATIO FOR THE, UM, FOR MULTI-FAMILY, UH, WILL COME OUT THROUGH THE DISTRICT PLANNING.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE CONTEXT OF THAT BEFORE WE REALLY UNDERSTAND, UM, WHERE WE SHOULD LAND ON ON THAT PART OF IT.

SO WOULD IT BE, IT WOULD BE IN PHASE FIVE, THAT PART OF IT? YEAH.

I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WAITING THAT LONG.

I THINK THE PRESSURE'S BEEN THERE FOR SOME TIME.

UM, AND, AND I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF WHAT THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD SPOKE ABOUT, BUT I'D ASK YOU TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT AND RETHINK ABOUT CONCLUDING THAT.

I DON'T WANNA HOLD UP PHASE FOUR.

SURE.

I DON'T WANNA WAIT UNTIL PHASE FIVE AND I DON'T WANNA CREATE ANOTHER PHASE.

TO ME, THE THING THAT'S LURKING BEHIND ALL OF THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A DWELLING UNIT.

WHERE DOES THAT COME OUT IN THIS PROCESS? WE WILL ADDRESS THAT IN, UM, IN PHASE FOUR AND, UM, AND THEN WE WILL CALIBRATE AND ADJUST AS NEEDED THROUGH THE OVERHAUL AFTER DISTRICT PLANNING IS DONE.

IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S FOUNDATIONAL.

SO WE HAVE THAT IN PHASE FOUR.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE DISTRICT PLANNING, BECAUSE EACH DISTRICT'S GONNA HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS AND, AND THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE'D WANNA SET FOR FUTURE CONDITIONS ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

UM, THE FOUNDATIONAL DEFINITION OF A DWELLING UNIT IS GONNA BE THE, THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT MASSING AND SCALE ARE GONNA BE DISTRICT SPECIFIC.

I BELIEVE SO.

YEP.

SEAN, YOU MENTIONED GLENN AND PATSY'S CONCERN IS, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE DWELLING UNIT IS UNDER PHASE FOUR, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT LISTED THAT, ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAN WHAT IS LISTED HERE CONSIDERED UNDER PHASE FOUR? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S LISTED HERE IS TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE, THE KEY ITEMS. I DON'T WANNA SAY KEY ITEMS, BUT ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING, UM, THAT WE OUTLINED IN THE BEGINNING.

BUT WE DO KNOW THE DEFINITION FOR DWELLING UNIT HAS BEEN A LINGERING ISSUE, UM, WHERE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, DWELLING, IT COULD BE 400 SQUARE FEET OR 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

UM, SO WE WILL INCLUDE THAT IN PHASE FOUR AND BRING THAT FORWARD, UH, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COMMITTEE.

I, I WOULD AGREE WITH GLEN THAT IT IS FOUNDATIONAL AND IT EVEN IMPACTS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

THERE'S A CHICKEN AND EGG ISSUE THERE.

ON THE, UH, CODE WRITING TEAM TO HELP US AS WE ADVANCE WITH PHASE FIVE AND THEN THE OVERALL TIMELINE.

ALRIGHT, WELL WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S IN PHASE FOUR.

UM, AND THEN FOR PHASE FIVE, UM, WE HAD GONE OUT WITH AN R F Q AGAIN, UM, TO, BECAUSE THE, THE OVERHAUL FOR THE ENTIRE CODE, THE, THE SETUP OF THE CODE, UM, THE, THE USER, THE ABILITY FOR USERS TO WALK THROUGH IT AND UNDERSTAND IT, UM, WE WANTED TO GO BACK OUT FOR THIS BIGGER EFFORT AND SOLICIT THE HELP FROM, UM, FROM CODE WRITERS AND FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE BUSINESS.

UH, WE DID GET TWO, UH, RESPONSES THAT WERE EVALUATING AND, UM, AND WE'LL BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION

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SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE BEEN BUSY FOR A YEAR OR SO NOW TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT PHASES.

UM, WE HAVE FOUR A THAT'LL THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

AND IF THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT COMES OUT OF COMMITTEE, WE WOULD BRING, UH, FOR FIRST READING OF THE L M O AMENDMENTS TO TOWN COUNCIL, UM, AT THE MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.

AND THEN IF THERE IS, UM, UH, ADOPTION AT FIRST READING AND WITH, WITH NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, THEN WE WOULD BRING IT TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE OCTOBER 3RD MEETING FOR ADOPTION.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE TARGET FOR THE PHASE FOUR IS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEN TO FOLLOW THAT WITH, UM, MEETING OF THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AND THEN IN, IN OCTOBER, AND THEN, UM, TOWN COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER.

AND THEN PHASE FIVE, WE BUILT IN GROWTH FRAMEWORK AND DISTRICT PLAN INITIATIVE, JUST TO SAY THAT'S REALLY GONNA INFORM THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE IN THE FUTURE LAND USE AND SETTING EXPECTATIONS FOR, UM, FOR THE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT NEED TO BE REFLECTED IN OUR, OUR FINAL UPDATED SHINY BRAND, NEW L M O THAT'S THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT SIZE, THE RIGHT SHAPE, RIGHT FIT FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT THE COMMUNITY APPROVES OF.

ANY QUESTIONS ON GROWTH CONSERVATION, GROWTH FRAMEWORK, DISTRICT PLANS, PHASES OF THE L M O AND I'VE GOTTEN, UM, EMAILS, I THINK WE ALL HAVE BEEN, UM, ON THOSE EMAILS, UH, WITH REQUESTS.

HAVE THE FOUR A MOVED TO, UM, AND I REALIZE NONE OF US SET THAT AGENDA.

UM, BUT THE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO FOUR A, UM, TO THE AUGUST 15 ON COUNCIL MEETING.

I GUESS I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY, UM, ON THEIR BEHALF THERE, WHY IT'S SEPTEMBER 19TH RATHER THAN LATER THIS MONTH.

YEAH, AND I, UM, SO THE, THE NORMAL PROCEDURE FOR ITEMS THAT COME OUTTA COMMITTEE, THERE'S A BRIEF, UH, ONCE COMMITTEE MEETS.

SO TODAY, UH, THE CHAIRMAN, MR. RAM WOULD PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF WHAT HAPPENED.

UM, OUTPUT OF THIS MEETING AT THE NEXT TOWN COUNCIL IS A BRIEF, AND THEN REQUEST THAT IT BE ADDED TO, YOU KNOW, ACTION ITEMS BE ADDED TO THE FOLLOWING TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.

THAT'S A PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING, UM, FOR, FOR A WHILE.

UM, THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, CASES IN MY TIME HERE WHERE THERE'S BEEN, UM, AN EXCEPTION MADE TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD.

UM, I WOULD SAY I DON'T KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THIS MEETING.

AND IT'S THURSDAY, AUGUST 10TH AT 10 30 AND THE MEETING IS TUESDAY THE 15TH.

AND SO THE ABILITY TO DELIVER A MATERIAL FOR A PACKET, UM, YOU KNOW, SO I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T BE DONE, BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE REGULAR TRACK.

SO ANYONE WHO WAS INTERESTED IN THE WHY BEHIND THIS HAS HEARD YOUR ANSWER.

CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 16 AMENDING TITLE 16, UM, OF THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE TO AMEND SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND TO ESTABLISH REGULATIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? ALRIGHT, I'M DONE WITH UNFINISHED BUSINESS ITEM AT THIS POINT.

NEW, UH, BUSINESS

[7.a. Consideration of Proposed Ordinance 2023-16 Amending Title 16 of the Municipal Code of the Town of Hilton Head Island, the Land Management Ordinance (LMO) to Amend Single-Family Dwelling Parking Requirements and to Establish Regulations for Single-Family Dwelling Floor Area Ratio Requirements – Missy Luick, Assistant Community Development Director]

BEFORE YOU BEGIN, I, I WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH OUR MINUTES.

UH, KIM, WHO PREPARES OUR MINUTES? VICKI.

OH, VICKI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SHE DOES A VERY THOROUGH JOB, BUT IN, IN READING THE MINUTES OF LAST MONTH, THERE IS ONE PARAGRAPH WHERE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MADE 21 DIFFERENT SUGGESTIONS.

MY QUESTION TO STAFF IS, IF WE ARE SIMPLY MAKING RE REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION OR STATEMENTS ABOUT OUR WELL COMMENTS, DOES THAT HELP STAFF OR AS CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMITTEE, SHOULD I BE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, UH, DIFFERENTLY? WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT? I THINK SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR FOR MAKING THAT COMMENT.

UM, WHAT WE DO IS DISTILL OUT COMMENTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE ITEM THAT WE'VE PRESENTED.

AND IF WE'RE COMING BACK FOR AC OR IF WE'VE ASKED FOR ACTION, WE'RE ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION AT THAT POINT TO BE ABLE TO ADVANCE IT.

IF IT'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE ACTION, UM, WE WILL ITEMIZE IT, WE WILL EVALUATE IT AND BRING IT BACK FOR OUR NEXT DISCUSSION.

IF IT'S INFORMATION THAT IS,

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AND SO WE, WE TALK ABOUT A TOPIC AND THEN IT RAISES A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WE'VE GOT, UM, GREAT QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

WE'VE GOT GREAT QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WE ALL WANNA PROVIDE ANSWERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ON APPROPRIATE PACE AND UPDATES.

UM, THERE CAN BE A STAFF UPDATE, UM, ON YOUR COMMITTEE AGENDA TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK ON THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE ASKED AND KEEP IT SEPARATE.

I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO CON, I DON'T WANNA BUILD IT IN TO COMPLICATE A DECISION THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE, BUT IF YOU JUST ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THEN WE COULD COME BACK UNDER A STAFF UPDATE, UH, TO RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD.

UM, AND, AND GIVE YOU SOME CONFIDENCE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESPOND TO YOU IN, IN THE COMMITTEE.

I HAVE TWO GOALS.

ONE IS TO BE EFFICIENT AND PROMULGATING, UM, DECISIONS, AND THEN SECONDLY, NOT PUTTING ADDITIONAL AND PERHAPS IN SOME CASES, UNNECESSARY BURDENS ON STAFF.

SO I, I NEED YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.

IF YOU SENSE THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT, UM, CONFLICTS WITH THOSE TWO ITEMS, LET ME KNOW.

BUT, UM, I AS CHAIRMAN WILL TRY TO BRING CONSENSUS UP HERE SO THAT YOU GET A CLEAR DIRECTION OF WHERE WE'RE GOING.

PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT'S BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AGAIN? SEAN COLEN, ASSISTANT TIME MANAGER.

WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IS, UH, WHAT WE'VE TITLED, UM, L M O AMENDMENT FOUR SET FOUR PHASE FOUR A.

UM, THE PHASES HAVE BLENDED TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT, BUT FOUR A THE, THERE, THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP ABOUT, UM, MASS SCALE INTENSITY.

UM, WE HAVE ADDRESSED OR, OR, UM, PUT TOGETHER INFORMATION TO ADDRESS THE SINGLE FAMILY PRESSURE POINT FROM A FOUR A RATIO IN A PARKING, UM, CALIBRATION IN THE CODE.

AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TODAY IS THAT, UM, THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE COMMITTEE CONSIDER A PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING THE L M O, UH, FOR THESE TWO ITEMS, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING PARKING REQUIREMENTS INTO ESTABLISH SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS.

IN THE OVERLAYS, ONE ADDITIONAL SPACE IS REQUIRED FOR EVERY, UM, THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR PORTION THEREOF ABOVE 2000.

THERE'S GREAT APPROACH THESE SEPARATELY, SEAN.

UH, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE PARKING FIRST AND IF WE WANNA STOP AND TALK ABOUT THAT, WE CERTAINLY CAN.

UM, AND THEN THE FLOOR AREA RATIO.

AND JUST SO THE COMMITTEE IS AWARE, THE COMMITTEE CAN ADOPT 'EM AS WRITTEN, UM, THEY CAN ADOPT ONE AND NOT THE OTHER, OR THEY CAN, UH, MAKE A RE UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO REVISE WHAT W WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SO WE'LL WORK THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER YOU'RE COMFORTABLE ADVANCING, IF THAT'S YOUR CHOICE, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT GOES TO TOWN COUNCIL.

SO WE LOOK, UM, WHEN WE EVALUATE L M O AMENDMENTS, THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT WE LOOK AT.

IS IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMP PLAN? IS IT REQUIRED BY CHANGING CONDITIONS? DOES IT ADDRESS A COMMUNITY NEED? IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE, INTENT OF THE DISTRICTS? DOES IT PROVIDE ORDERLY AND LOGICAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN? AND WOULD IT NOT PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT, UM, TO THE, THE COMMUNITY? AND, UM, AND THESE KEY ELEMENTS? UM, SO NUMBER ONE, AMEND, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO BETTER ALIGN THAT TYPE THAT USE TO THE SIZE OF THE DWELLING UNIT STRUCTURE.

AND NUMBER TWO, ESTABLISH REGULATIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING FLOOR AIR RATIO OR F A R.

WELL, YOU HEARD FAR A LOT REQUIREMENTS TO MORE EFFECTIVELY REGULATE THE VOLUME AND PLACEMENT OF HOMES BASED ON THE STRUCTURE, SIZE, AND RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT PHA IS.

IT'S TAKING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LAW AND TYING THAT TOGETHER, UM, THAT RELATIONSHIP THROUGH THAT RATIO.

ANY QUESTIONS ON JUST THE GENERAL AT THIS POINT? OKAY, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LOT COVERAGE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A UNIT.

SO WE'RE GONNA DIVE INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DWELLING PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

UM, AND SO SPECIFICALLY IT WOULD AMEND, UM, THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS WHERE THERE IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PARKING CALIBRATION AND THAT EXISTS IN FOREST BEACH OVERLAY, FOLLY FIELD OVERLAY AND HOLIDAY HOMES.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE, A LITTLE MORE ABOUT IT IN A MINUTE, ALONG WITH THE GEOGRAPHY OF THOSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

UM, BUT IN THESE DISTRICTS, TWO PARKING SPACES WERE REQUIRED FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES UP TO 2000 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA, GROSS FLOOR AREA.

AND THEN, UM,

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SO IF YOU HAD 2001 SQUARE FEET, IT'S THREE PARKING SPACES, 3001 WOULD BE FOUR.

UM, WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING AND THE CALIBRATION OF THE OVERLAYS CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM, IS TO HAVE THE, UM, THE ADDITIONAL INCREMENT BE 750 SQUARE FEET.

SO IT'S A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT WITHIN THE OVERLAYS.

AND WE'VE GOT SOME TABLES THAT'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE THAT, THAT TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT TO, TO PARKING BASED ON HOME SIZES IN THESE AREAS.

I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THESE DISTRICTS HAVE A FLOOR AREA RATIO IN, IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

SO THERE IS, AND THERE'S ALSO A MAXIMUM HOME SIZE IN THESE DISTRICTS, UNLIKE OTHER AREAS FOR SINGLE FAMILIES ALLOWED ON THE ISLAND.

AND SEAN, ARE, ARE THE PARKING, UH, CHANGES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONLY RELATED TO THESE THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS? NO, SIR.

THEY ALSO AMEND, ALL DISTRICTS ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

BUT I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE OVERLAYS HAVE A DIFFERENT PARKING, UM, METRIC.

AND THIS WOULD INCLUDE A MINOR ADJUST, I SAY A MINOR ADJUSTMENT FOR THE NEXT INCREMENT.

INSTEAD OF A THOUSAND THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, IT'D BE EVERY SEVEN 50 OR PORTION THEREOF.

SO, JUST SO I HAD THAT RIGHT.

YES, MA'AM.

SO ESSENTIALLY THAT, UM, IT'S A HEAVIER BURDEN ON PROVIDING PARKING IN THIS AREA DOES NOT REDUCE THEIR ALREADY ESTABLISHED STANDARD OF PARKING FOR IN CORRECT.

IN ANY WAY, TAKING AWAY FROM WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, MAKING IT MORE RESTRICTIVE.

MAKING IT MORE RESTRICTIVE MORE, YEAH.

AND THE TABLES ALL SHOW LIKE WHAT'S UNDER THE CURRENT L M O AND THEN WHAT THESE CHANGES AND HOW THEY IMPACT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR TO EVERYONE SO THAT THEY DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE TAKING ANYTHING AWAY.

WE'RE ACTUALLY, YES.

IT'S NOT LESSENING THE PARKING RESTRICTION.

IT'S SLIGHTLY INCREASING THE REQUIREMENT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE HOME.

SEAN, WHAT ARE THE ABUSES IN THESE THREE DISTRICTS HAVING TO DO WITH PARKING? YOU KNOW, IN OUR EVALUATION OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS FROM A FLOOR RATIO IN A PARKING STANDPOINT.

I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, NONE OF THE DISTRICTS ARE PERFECT, BUT THEY'RE MOSTLY IN COMPLIANT WITH A FLORIA RATIO.

THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IS OUTLINED IN THE OVERLAY AND THE, UM, THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE LIMITATION THAT THEY HAVE.

I THINK WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IS UNDER PARKING, RIGHT? UH, THEY'RE BUILT A SINGLE FAMILY UNDER THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

SO I THINK THE ABUSES ARE MORE OF THE USE OF THE PROPERTY THEN, UM, AS THESE HAVE TRANS, A LOT OF HOMES HAVE TRANSITIONED TO SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

SO THEY WERE BUILT BASED ON THIS STANDARD FOR SINGLE FAMILY, BUT THERE'S MORE DEMAND FOR PARKING IN THESE AREAS THAT HAVE CAUSED MOST OF THE ISSUES.

THE DEMAND FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING IS BECAUSE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, NOT BECAUSE OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

I THINK OCCUPANCY AS USE OF A, OF ONE OF THESE HOMES AS SHORT-TERM RENTALS HIGHER THAN IF IT WAS JUST YOUR TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY U USER.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IMPOSING RESTRICTIONS ON SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BASED UPON CURING A, SO A PROBLEM CAUSED BY SHORT-TERM RENTALS, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TAKING TOO BIG A SWIPE.

THAT THIS IS BEING DRIVEN BY SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

AND, AND I HOPE IN THE TABLE IT, IT'LL DEMONSTRATE THAT IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN PARKING.

AND THEN, UM, YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND OUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT, IF, IF YOU, IF YOU BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND, UM, YOU, YOU'RE REQUIRED IN THE PERMIT TO ADVERTISE ONLY THE NUMBER OF COMPLIANCE SPACES THAT YOU HAVE.

SO IF THIS CAPTURES NEW DEVELOPMENT GOING FORWARD AND I BUILD A HOME AND I, I KNOW I WANNA DO A SHORT TERM RENTAL, THEN I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE SURE I'VE GOT ENOUGH PARKING IN SUPPORT OF THAT USE OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, AND, AND IF WE, WHEN WE GET TO THE TABLE, I THINK YOU'LL SEE IF IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY, IT'S A TRULY A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT SOMEONE WANTS TO OWN AND OCCUPY.

UM, I DON'T THINK THE PARKING, THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER.

I LIVE IN A, A HOUSE THAT'S JUST OVER 3000 SQUARE FEET.

I HAVE FOUR BEDROOMS. I HAVE A BONUS ROOM THAT IF I PUT A CLOSET IN, IT COULD BE A FIFTH BEDROOM.

SO FROM AN OCCUPANCY STANDPOINT COULD BE HIGH.

BUT I, I HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY TO PARK SIX CARS ON MY LOT.

I HAVE A THIRD ACRE.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, I THINK WHEN WE GET INTO IT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE PARKING IS NOT THAT ONEROUS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY USER.

I'M JUST CONCERNED

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I I CERTAINLY THINK THAT IS A, A FACTOR IN CONSIDERATION AS WE'VE SEEN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUILT AND CONVERTED TO SHORT TERM RENTALS.

AND THE PARKING CALIBRATION FOR, FOR THAT RESIDENTIAL WAS LESS THAN WHAT I THINK IS REQUIRED TO SUPPORT IT.

SINCE THAT'S AN ONGOING, UH, OPPORTUNITY, AN OPTION FOR ANYONE WHO OWNS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IT IT MAKES SENSE THAT KNOWING THAT IF THERE COULD BE A LACK OF BARKING, THAT CREATES MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, UM, ON THE ISLAND.

I I THINK THAT'S SET FORTH FROM THE BEGINNING.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MOVE YEAH, YEAH.

SEE WHAT THE, WHAT INFORMATION YOU HAVE.

'CAUSE I THINK FLORIA RATIO IS GONNA PROVIDE A LOT OF PROTECTION, UM, THAT MIGHT MITIGATE THE NEED FOR SIGNIFICANT CHANGE OF PARKING.

BUT LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON IF WE, EXCELLENT.

SO IN THE PARKING AND LOADING STANDARDS FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WE WOULD AMEND IT, UM, TO ONE PARKING SPACE FOR 750 CURRENTLY OUTSIDE OF THE OVERLAYS, AND THIS WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE SINGLE FAMILY, UM, UM, HOMES OUTSIDE OF THE OVERLAYS FOR THIS PROVISION, BUT IT'S ONE PARKING SPACE FOR 750, UM, SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA.

UM, RIGHT NOW OUR CODE HAS, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO PER DWELLING UNIT, BUT YOU'VE GOTTA BE, SO IT'S TWO UP TO 4,000 SQUARE FEET.

I MENTIONED I HAVE A 3000 SQUARE FOOT HOME.

I COULD NOT SURVIVE WITH TWO TEENAGE BOYS AND THEIR FRIENDS WITH TWO SPACES AT MY HOUSE.

BUT SO THE CURRENT CODE IS TWO, TWO SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT UP TO 4,000 SQUARE FEET.

ONCE YOU GET TO 4,001, UM, FOR EVERY 1,250 SQUARE FEET OR PORTION THERE OF, IT'S ANOTHER SPACE.

SO IF YOU START THINKING AT A 5,500 SQUARE FOOT HOME, YOU'RE ONLY AT FOUR PARKING SPACES.

SO I, I DO THINK OUR RESIDENTIAL PARKING IS A LITTLE UNDER WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

NOW I KNOW THEY'RE MINIMUMS AND I THINK, UM, IF YOU WERE BUILDING A HOME, YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE MORE PARKING THAN THE MINIMUM FOR A HOUSE THAT SIZE, BUT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S GONNA MA TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE SITE BY NOT HAVING TO PROVIDE THE PARKING, UM, THEN THIS IS, THAT'S SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH.

SO IT CHANGES TO A STRAIGHT ONE PER 750 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA.

IS THIS OPERATE WITHIN THE PUDS AS WELL? I PUDS, YES, BUT I WANTED TO YES, I THINK SO.

AND FURTHER IN THE POWERPOINT, THERE SHOULD BE A SLIDE EXISTING CODE, AND THAT PARKING IS TIED TO BOTH THE STRUCTURE OF BUILDING BUILT AS WELL AS, SO I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES, AND I, AND I HOPE TO ANSWER THAT DEFINITIVELY A LITTLE BIT LATER.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THIS IS A LIST OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, IN OUR CODE THAT HAVE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

AND AGAIN, IT'S BACK TO, OTHER THAN THE OVERLAYS, IT'S THAT TWO PER UNIT UP TO 4,000 SQUARE FEET, AND THEN ONE ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR EVERY 1250 OR PORTION THEREOF.

UM, AND SO THIS WOULD AMEND THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR ALL OF THAT.

UM, I DON'T SEE PD ONE, PARDON ME.

I I WAS SAYING THE SAME THING.

I DON'T SEE PD ONE ON THE LIST.

WHAT DOES A RMM 12 SINGLE FAMILY PROJECT LOOK LIKE ON HILTON HEAD? WE, WE DO HAVE SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE RMM 12 DISTRICT.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOTS ARE SLIGHTLY LESS THAN A 10TH OF AN ACRE.

UM, I THINK IN THOSE AREAS YOU DO SEE SOME SMALLER HOMES.

UM, I THINK THE RMM 12 DISTRICT, BY ITS PURPOSE AND INTENT WAS TO ENCOURAGE MULTI-FAMILY, MORE OF A MULTI-FAMILY PRODUCT.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME RMM 12 DISTRICTS THAT HAVE THAT, THAT HAVE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS OR THEY HAVE LARGER LOTS THAT JUST HAVE NOT BEEN DEVELOPED.

CAN YOU GIMME AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT THAT IS OUR M 12 AT THIS POINT, JUST HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME AND VISION AND VISION, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? YEAH, SO THERE, I, UM, I THINK THE PROJECT ALONG, UM, I'M, I'M TRYING TO THINK THE NAME OF, NAME OF IT WRONG.

DILLON ROAD.

UM, THEY'RE A BUNCH OF DUPLEX UNITS.

UM, TABBY SOMETHING, TABBY WALK.

12 DISTRICT NOW UNDER OUR OLD DEFINITION, RIGHT.

TABBY WALK.

I THINK THAT'S AN RMM

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SINGLE FAMILY USED TO BE ONE OR TWO UNITS PER LOT.

AND SO DUPLEX IS COUNTED.

SO I THINK THAT'S AN RMM 12, UM, APPLICATION.

UM, SO AS WE WALK THROUGH, UM, THE ASSESSMENT, THOSE ARE THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE CHANGED.

UM, WE'RE REVIEWING THE RANGE OF PARKING THAT'S NEEDED BY USE.

UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME PRESSURE, UM, WHERE FOLKS PARK OFF SITE ON, ON STREET, BUT THERE'S NO OFF STREET PARKING REQUIRED TO MEET THE, YOUR, YOUR PERMIT REQUIREMENTS AND, AND MEET THE CODE.

UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST FROM A, FROM THE WAY THE CODE WAS WRITTEN, UM, IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR SPACES, UM, THAT ARE BEING OCCUPIED FOR ADDITIONAL OC OR THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED FOR ADDITIONAL OCCUPANCY.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THE 4,000 SQUARE FOOT THRESHOLD FOR THE TWO PARKING SPACES HAVE BEEN INADEQUATE.

AND SO I THINK A GROSS FLOOR ERROR RATIO, A STRAIGHT RATIO FOR PARKING, UM, HELPS US TO RECALIBRATE THAT.

UM, LET ME GO THROUGH THE FIVE TABLES THAT SHOW THE IMPACT OF THE CHANGE.

AND SO IN THE FIRST ONE, THESE ARE HOMES THAT ARE LESS THAN FOUR BEDROOMS, UM, BECAUSE WE HAD SOME ALTERNATIVES OR OPTIONS ON HOW TO RECALIBRATE THE PARKING.

SO WHAT WHERE WE'VE LANDED IS THE ONE PER 750 SQUARE FEET, BUT IN THE CURRENT CODE, OUR HILTON HEAD PARKING REQUIREMENT UNDER THE EXISTING CODE, THE TWO PER UNIT UP TO 4,000, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL INCREMENT FOR EVERY PORTION OF, OR THEREFORE OF 1,250, THIS IS HOW, THIS IS THE CURRENT PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN OUR CODE.

SO IT'S TWO UP TO 4,000.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE, RIGHT, A MODEST INCREASE AND A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT HOME WOULD HAVE FOUR UNDER THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY AT ONE PER SEVEN 50, IT DOES INCREASE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR SO FAR 2,500 SQUARE FOOT HOME.

IT'S FOUR YOU CAN SEE AS IT MOVES ACROSS HERE.

BUT YOU START TO GET INTO THESE LARGER HOMES, FOUR, FIVE, 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND IT REQUIRES WHAT I THINK IS A DECENT RATIO.

NOW, I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU GET UP TO A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT HOME, AND I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS ABOUT IF IT'S REALLY UTILIZED AS A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT IS MAYBE A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY USE.

UM, BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY OCCUPANCY, UM, AND VISITATION ARE OFTEN HIGH, UM, IN THESE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE THE PROTECTION THAT IF THE, IF THE HOME IS UTILIZED AS A RENTAL, WHETHER IT'S SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM, UM, THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE PARKING TO ELIMINATE THE PRESSURE WITHIN THESE COMMUNITIES.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXISTING AT THE TOP, THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY, AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THESE OTHER WAYS TO LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, A A A COMBINATION OF SQUARE FOOTAGE AND BEDROOMS, BUT I WILL SAY BEDROOMS BECOME PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE PEOPLE SLEEP IN LOFTS, PEOPLE SLEEP IN BONUS ROOMS AND THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE WINDOW AND A, AND A CLOSET TO MEET A BEDROOM DEFINITION.

AND WE HAVE DIFFICULTY IN OUR DEFINITION OF DWELLING UNIT MEETING THE FIVE ELEMENTS, RIGHT.

COOKING, SLEEPING, CENTER, YOU KNOW, SO TRYING TO KEEP IT AS STRAIGHTFORWARD AS POSSIBLE.

AND THAT'S WHY IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE, WE'VE LANDED BACK AT THIS ONE PER SEVEN 50.

IF YOU LOOK AT THESE ADDITIONAL TABLES, YOU KNOW, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE CALCULATIONS REMAIN THE SAME, BUT WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL, UM, PARKING BASED ON BEDROOMS, THEN THOSE NUMBERS START TO GO UP REALLY JUST IN THIS, IN THIS COLUMN HERE.

DISTRICTS PLUS THOSE THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

UM, BEFORE YOU, UH, LEAVE THE PREVIOUS SLOT, OOPS.

YEAH, THERE WE GO.

UH, YOU HAVE A, A DIFFERENT GRADE COLUMN FOR H H I OVERLAY EXISTING.

UM, SO, UH, I, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS CHANGES THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN ALL OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

I KNOW YOU'VE HIGHLIGHTED THREE OF 'EM.

SURE.

I THINK IT'S THE THREE.

UM, SO, SO I GUESS, UM, I GUESS THAT MERGES IN, THAT ONE MERGES IN WITH ZCO.

UM, OR, OR MAYBE TRYING TO SAY THAT'S A DIFFERENT WAY.

THE ONE PER SEVEN 50 INCLUDES ALL

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THAT ONE, YEAH.

SEVEN 50 AND HOPEFULLY I CLARIFY.

SO THE THREE OVERLAYS THE, FOR THE THREE OVERLAYS, AND THERE'S ONLY JUST THE THREE FOR THE FOUR SPEECH F FIELD AND HOLIDAY ELMS WHERE THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION IN ALL THE OVERLAYS, TWO PER DWELLING UNIT, AND THEN ONE FOR EVERY INCREMENT OF A THOUSAND.

THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE OVERLAYS IS TO MAINTAIN THE TWO PER DWELLING UNIT BASE AND THEN THE ONE PER SEVEN 50 GOING FORWARD.

AND THIS IS THE IMPLICATION OF WHAT'S REQUIRED TODAY IN THOSE OVERLAYS FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT AND WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, UM, UNDER THE AMENDMENT.

THANK, SO YOU CAN SEE IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT ADDS IN ONE, ROUGHLY ONE SPACE UNTIL YOU GET UP TO 6,000 SQUARE FEET, YOU KNOW, NO CHANGE FOR THE SMALLER HOMES UNDER 4,000.

UM, SO I WOULD SAY MORE MINOR OR MODEST CHANGE TO THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, BUT ALL THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED IT WOULD BE THE ONE PER SEVEN 50.

AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EXISTING AND PROPOSED IS THIS, ARE THESE TWO ROWS HERE.

THAT'S A OKAY.

A GREATER DIFFERENCE THERE.

THAT HELPS CLARIFY.

I THINK ONE OF, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED ALSO, SEAN, IS THAT DURING, IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, THEY HAVE A SELF-IMPOSED MAXIMUM .

AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER FROM OTHER PRESENTATIONS, BUT IF I RECALL, UM, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING BIGGER THAN 5,500 SQUARE FEET.

SO THEY WOULDN'T REACH THAT 6,000 FOOT THRESHOLD, WHICH TRIGGERS THE MORE, UM, EXTREME FROM ONE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE TO TWO.

AND SO REALLY IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY APPLICABLE.

DID I GET THAT RIGHT? RIGHT.

YEAH, BECAUSE, AND WE'LL GET IT IN THE F A R I THINK IT'S 4,500 TO 5,500 IS THE RANGE OF THE, AND THEY HAVE MAXIMUM HOME SIZE CAP.

SO THAT IS OUTLINED IN THE FLOOR AREA RATIO.

I AM TORN WITH THIS 'CAUSE I, I REPRESENT NORTH FOREST BEACH, SOUTH FOREST BEACH, THEY HAVE SERIOUS CON UM, CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING ISSUES, SHORT TERM RENTALS.

BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, IF, IF WE KEEP INCREASING THE NUMBER OF CARS, WE ARE ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGING THE CHARACTER AND ALSO ASKING CITIZENS TO CUT DOWN MORE VEGETATION, TREES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO ON ONE HAND, I THINK THAT IF, IF THIS IS BEING DRIVEN BY STR PRIMARILY, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD BE SAYING, OKAY, WHAT AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE THE GREATEST DENSITY OF STR? AND I WOULD SAY THE THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS ARE A GOOD BEGINNING AND THEN MAYBE WHAT ARE THE OTHERS? BUT I'M, I'M SEARCHING FOR A WAY TO MINIMIZE THE COMPREHENSIVE COVERAGE OF THE ISLAND WITH THIS KIND OF A, UM, APPROACH.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE THROWING OUT THE BABY WITH A BATH WATER.

WE'RE ALSO ADDING A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.

UM, AND I'M A, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ALONG WITH THE POINTS THAT, UH, DAVID RAISES.

I, I'M JUST, I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS.

UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT SHOULD BE TIED TO SQUARE FOOTAGE AS WELL AS BEDROOMS, EVEN THOUGH BEDROOMS IS IMPERFECT.

THE ISLAND, REQUESTED THAT WE ADDRESS THE PARKING ISSUES WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WAS HAPPENING.

I LEMME JUST ADD SOMETHING.

'CAUSE OF MY ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.

I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE INCREASING NUMBER OF CARS THAT HAVE TO BE ACCOMMODATED IN CERTAIN AREAS, THEN MAYBE THE TRADE-OFF IS THAT 50% OF THOSE CARS HAVE TO GO UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE.

I'M TRYING TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF OUS COVERAGE OR THE CUTTING OF TREES ON LOTS.

THAT'S A CHARACTER ISSUE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET INTO IN THE F A R.

BUT IT, IT, UM, RELATES TO THIS AS WELL.

I THINK.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE A LITTLE BIT WITH THOSE THOUGHTS.

UM, HAVING PREVIOUSLY REPRESENTED SOUTH FOR SPEECH, I'VE ALSO HEARD THEIR COMPLAINTS FOR FOUR YEARS AND PARKING IS A SUBSTANTIAL ISSUE FOR THEM AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOME RELIEF.

UM, AND THE ROADS WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS ARE SO NARROW AND SO SMALL THEY CLEARLY CAN'T HAVE AS THEY DON'T HAVE ON STREETT PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE ANY OF THOSE ADDITIONAL.

SO A LOT OF THIS OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS THAT I REPRESENTED THEM, AND NOW OTHERS, NOT JUST THEM BUT OTHERS ACROSS

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AND, AND SO WHERE THIS IS IN RESPONSE, IN MY BELIEF TO WHAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED OF US TO LOOK AT AND TO PROVIDE RELIEF, UM, FROM THE OVERBURDENED PARKING SITUATION THAT THEY EXPERIENCE, NOT IN JUST THOSE TWO COMMUNITIES, BUT ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES, UM, ACROSS THE ISLAND.

IT IS, IT IS FROM AND, UH, SIDE TO SIDE THAT I HAVE HEARD THOSE COMPLAINTS.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS ISN'T JUST SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP IN THEORY THAT THIS HAS BEEN GENERATED BY REQUESTS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

GLEN HAS SERIOUS ENOUGH CONCERNS THAT HE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE SUGGESTING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD, CORRECT? I DO NOT.

UM, I, I, I AGREE WITH WHAT MS. BECKER IS SAYING ABOUT THE IMPACT IN THE FOREST BEACH AREA, HAVING LIVED THERE AND WALKED THERE MANY TIMES, UM, WE NEED TO SOLVE THAT, UM, IMPACT ON THAT AREA.

UH, BUT ALSO AGREE WITH, UM, THE SENTIMENTS FROM MR. AMES AND MR. STANFORD ABOUT THE NUMBER OF SPACES THAT WE'RE CREATING BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT, UM, ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND I LIKE MR. JAMES' IDEA ABOUT, UM, IF IT GETS TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 50% OF THEM WITHIN THE STRUCTURE ITSELF AND NOT OUTSIDE PARKING ON.

AND, AND I KNOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT PERVIOUS VERSUS IMPERVIOUS AND CAN YOU PARK ON PINE STRAW AND YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF GRAVEL WOULD IT BE? I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO THOSE KIND OF DETAILS, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT WE ALL HAVE ABOUT, UM, THE INCREASE IN PARKING.

YEAH, I, I UNDERSTAND AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS.

I, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU INCREASE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT, UM, I THINK IT CAN ALSO HAVE A BENEFIT OF REDUCING THE, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE.

I DON'T SEE ADDITIONAL PARKING REQUIRING MORE CLEARING OF THE LOT.

I THINK SETBACKS AND BUFFERS AND THOSE ELEMENTS PROVIDE THAT PROTECTION.

AND SO I THINK IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING, EITHER YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT OF YOUR BUILDING OR PARK UNDERNEATH THE STRUCTURE.

UM, I, I THINK I DO UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATION THAT WE'RE MAYBE REACTING TO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL PRESSURE, BUT I THINK EVEN WHEN I LOOK AT THE SINGLE, WHAT I WOULD SAY, SINGLE FAMILY, 4%, UM, TAXED HOMES IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, THEY'RE, IN MY OPINION, THEY'RE SLIGHTLY UNDER PARKED.

AND, AND THERE'S ALSO SOME PRESSURE FROM PARKING, UM, FROM THAT CAPACITY AS WELL.

AND, AND I, AND I'M, I'M, I GET, I GET, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT TRANSITION OF THOSE PROPERTIES OVER TIME TO USE THAT IT'S NOT SINGLE FAMILY GOING FORWARD.

AND I ADD ONE MORE THING THAT WITH REGARD TO THE STRS, THE REPORT THAT WE SAW YESTERDAY AT THE WORKSHOP, AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, AND THAT IS WHERE THE STR R IS LOCATED.

WHERE'S THE BIGGEST PRESSURE? FOREST BEACH.

FAIRLY SEA PINES AND PALMETTO DUNES.

AND WE DIDN'T SEE PD ONE SURE.

ON THIS LIST.

UM, I WILL SAY ONE MORE COMMENT.

I THINK IF AN F A R IS CALIBRATED CORRECTLY, WHERE THE RATIO BETWEEN THE DWELLING AND THE, THE, THE LOT AREA, UM, IF THAT'S CALIBRATED CORRECTLY, IT WOULD PROVIDE ADEQUATE ABILITY.

THESE ARE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT? SO IF SOMEONE WAS REQUIRED TO PUT IN THREE BUT THEY WANTED TO PUT IN FIVE, I THINK IF THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS CORRECT, THEN YOU COULD, UM, ADEQUATELY PARK BY CHOICE RATHER THAN BY, BY HAVING AN INCREASED MINIMUM.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THEY KIND OF GO TOGETHER.

CAN I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT AS WELL? SURE.

UM, SO TO THE POINT OF PARKING UNDER THE BUILDING, UM, IN THESE AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD LEVEL AND THE REQUIRED, UM, BUILDING HEIGHT, GENERALLY SPEAKING, AND I THINK PRETTY MUCH, UM, HARD PRESSED TO FIND WHAT THAT DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE AVAILABLE PARKING SPACE UNDER THE HOMES.

AND SO THAT WOULD UM, JUST NATURALLY BE THERE EVEN WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

BUT IF YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT AREAS THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE BUILT AS AN ELEVATED STRUCTURE, UM, BY NOW REQUIRING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PARK UNDER YOUR HOUSE, WE LOSING HEIGHT.

'CAUSE IF YOU HAVE 35 FEET TO BUILD, YOU'RE LOSING THAT INTERIOR SPACE TO PARKING.

UM, SO I THINK THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES WHEN YOU START THINKING THAT WAY.

UM, AND I JUST WANT US TO BE AWARE OF THAT AND REALLY I THINK THAT I SUPPORT WHAT THE STAFF HAS DONE.

IF I WERE TO CHARACTERIZE WHAT I'VE HEARD UP HERE, UM,

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TAMMY, TAMMY HAS GREATER SUPPORT GENERALLY SPEAKING FOR WHAT STAFF HAS PREPARED.

I'VE LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY OVER THE YEARS AND THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR AND THE SUGGESTIONS AS ALTERNATIVES THAT I'VE HEARD DON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

PATSY, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE YOU COME OUT .

SO , I'M CONCERNED ABOUT BOTH THINGS.

UH, LISTEN, SAID ABOUT IF YOU USE THEM TOGETHER, PARKING TOGETHER, THEN WHILE, UM, SOMEONE MIGHT WANT TO SQUARE FOOT, IF YOU, OKAY, I'M SORRY.

APOLOGIZE.

I FROM, FROM MY TO SPEAK.

STEVE WANTS TO SPEAK.

OH, I'M SORRY STEVE.

OH, IF YOU PLEASE COME UP.

WHERE ARE THESE RULES APPLY? STEVE, CAN YOU, CAN YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? STEVE ALFRED IS AN ALTERNATE ON THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING.

WHERE ARE THESE RULES GONNA APPLY? DO THEY APPLY BEHIND THE GATES? DO THEY APPLY TO EXISTING STRUCTURES? UH, AND IF THE ANSWER TO BOTH OF THOSE QUESTIONS IS NO, HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT IS THIS REALLY GONNA HAVE? AND FINALLY, UH, IF THERE IS AN AREA SUCH AS NORTH OR SOUTH FOREST BEACH WHERE THERE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IF THIS WERE APPLIED, UH, SHOULD ANY CONSIDERATION BE MADE TO HAVING THE TOWN ACQUIRE PROPERTY GENERALLY IN THAT AREA FOR USE, FOR PARKING PURPOSES FOR THOSE WHOSE HAVE LIMITATIONS? THANK YOU, MS. .

GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THOSE.

I THINK THE, AN ANSWER TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, WHERE DOES IT APPLY? IT APPLIES EVERYWHERE AS, AS SUGGESTED THAT'S CORRECT.

INCLUDING BEHIND THE GATES? YES.

YEAH, IT'S .

I POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT PALMETTO DUNES, FOR INSTANCE, SO CORRECT.

SO CURRENT DWELLINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PERMITTED UNDER EXISTING CODE, LIKE ANY TIME YOU CHANGE THE CODE, THEY COULD BECOME NON-CONFORMING AND WOULD ONLY HAVE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.

UM, IF THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO, YOU KNOW, A REDEVELOPMENT OR RECONFIGURATION OF THAT PROPERTY.

AND SO THEY WOULD BE LEGAL, NON-CONFORMING USES, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO INCREASE PARKING IF THEY HAD THE CAPACITY TO DO SO, TO BE, TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.

UM, AND CERTAINLY THE INTRODUCTION OF DISTRICT PARKING COULD BE PART OF WHAT COMES OUT OF DISTRICT PLANNING, UM, WHETHER IT'S IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS OR IN THE, UM, IN THE ACTIVITY OR, OR THE STRATEGIC GROWTH AREAS.

UH, WE'RE JUST, WE JUST DON'T, WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

UM, AGAIN, I THINK THERE CAN BE A, A, A CALIBRATION OF PARKING.

I THINK FLOOR AIR RATIO PROVIDES A, A BETTER METRIC ON HOW TO MANAGE THE SITE.

BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT PRESSURE IN BOTH CASES.

AND, UM, AND SO I WOULD LOOK, I'D LIKE TO HELP THE COMMITTEE TO REACH A DECISION, EITHER THEY IN SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORT THIS, OR IF THERE'S A, A, A MODIFICATION TO WHAT WE RECOMMENDED THAT YOU WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, UM, TO ADVANCE THE COUNCIL.

MAY I REACT TO WHAT, UM, THE DISCUSSION WAS WITH REGARD TO BUYING PROPERTY AND CREATING PARKING LOTS? I THINK IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS DISCUSSION, THERE WAS A, UM, STATEMENT ABOUT INTENT AND PURPOSE THROUGHOUT.

THAT'S THROUGHOUT OUR LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.

AND WHEN WE START THINKING ABOUT BUYING LAND AND MAKING PARKING LOTS FOR PARKING AND OVER ABUNDANCE OF CARS, THAT CAN'T BE HANDLED NATURALLY ON THE SITE OF WHERE THEY INTEND TO BE GOING.

UM, WE ARE, WE ARE DOING EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE IS.

AND IF WE START THINKING THEN FURTHER ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, THINK ABOUT THE TREES NECESSARY TO CUT DOWN TO CREATE THAT PARKING LOT.

AND, AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, UM, I THINK THAT IS COMPLETELY ANTITHETICAL TO EVERYTHING THAT HILTON HEADS STANDS FOR.

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THERE'S THAT.

UM, IT ALSO CHANGES THE DYNAMIC, UM, OF EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE AN AREA THAT'S RESERVED FOR PARKING.

UM, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IF YOU HAVE THE PRESSURES NOW THIS ALLEVIATES THOSE PRESSURES WHEN YOU DON'T TAKE AWAY THOSE PRESSURES.

FOLKS ARE FINDING PLACES TO PARK THEIR CARS IN THE YARDS SIDEWAYS, CADDY CORNERS UP AGAINST FENCES AND ANYWHERE ELSE THAT THEY CAN.

SO SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

IT'S WELL KNOWN ACROSS THE ISLAND.

I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF MOVING THIS FORWARD IN THE AREAS THAT ARE PRIMARILY, UM, STR AND WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE.

THEY'RE THE THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

THEY'RE, UM, RD, DISTRICT, RD, SOUTH FOREST BEACH, NORTH FOREST BEACH, BRADLEY CIRCLE.

I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.

TO ME, THAT'S THE PRESSURE POINT AND THAT WE CAN BUY SOME TIME TO LOOK AT THE IMPACTS MORE BROADLY.

THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, BUT I'M WILLING TO HEAR ANY MOTION THAT WILL COME BEFORE THE CLASS.

SEAN, CAN YOU PULL UP THE SLIDE AGAIN THAT SHOWS THE DISTRICT'S LISTED? OH, THE, THE FULL LIST? YES, PLEASE.

THERE.

SO, MR. AMES, YOU'RE SUGGESTING OVERLAY PLUS RESORT DEVELOPMENT, THE RD.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISTRICT? WELL, IF WE GO TO THE ISLAND MAP, PERHAPS, YEAH, JUST TO, I I, I THINK THE SENSE IS THAT WHERE WE HAVE S T R PRESSURE, WE OUGHT TO BE RESPONDING WITH THIS LANGUAGE NOW, CERTAINLY, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS, IF I MIGHT, I'M SORRY.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO IMPACT THE PRESSURES THAT ARE TO COME WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT.

THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO ALREADY CONSTRUCTED, UM, HOMES.

IT DOESN'T APPLY TO ANYTHING THAT'S ALREADY PERMITTED FOR CONSTRUCTION.

THOSE SHIPS HAVE SAILED.

IT'S THE, IT'S THE CONCERN ABOUT NOT HAVING THAT, DUPLICATING THAT SAME ISSUE THAT WE KNOW IS PROBLEMATIC.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS, BUT TO SINGLE OUT A SPECIFIC AREAS AND THINKING THAT WE KNOW THAT THOSE ARE THE ONLY AREAS WHEN YOU MAY BE MISSING ONE OR TWO OR ALL IS SHORT-SIGHTED.

AND I THINK MISTAKE, WE CAN HAVE A MOTION AND WE CAN VOTE ON THE MOTION.

GO AHEAD.

WELL, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE BEFORE WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE VOTE ON A MOTION, DAVID, THAT ALL THOUGHTS HAVE BEEN HEARD AND CONSIDERED.

SO WHILE I APPRECIATE THE RUSH TO GET THERE, I WANNA MAKE SURE I GET TO HAVE MY, SAY.

MAY I, MAY I INTRODUCE AN OPTION FOR JUST DISCUSSION.

UM, IF WE USE THE EXISTING OVERLAY LANGUAGE THAT HAS TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT UP TO 2000 SQUARE FEET AND THEN ADDS ONE SPACE PER THOUSAND, IT'S WHAT'S EXISTING IN THOSE OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING, UM, BETWEEN, UM, WHAT WE'VE LISTED HERE IS 2,500 ALL THE WAY UP AND, AND, AND MS UH, BECKER WAS CORRECT THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A MAX IN THOSE DISTRICTS.

BUT IF WE USE THIS PARKING RELATIONSHIP FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, THAT WE HAVE ALREADY IN THESE OVERLAYS, AND WE APPLY THAT TO THE DISTRICTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, I THINK IT REDUCES THE, UM, THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE PROPOSING BY THE ONE PER SEVEN 50.

AND IT, AND IT'S A CONSISTENT METHODOLOGY WITH OTHER OVERLAYS.

I I'M THROWING THAT OUT AS AN OPTION.

I'D UNDERSTAND.

THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO ONLY, UM, AFFECT THE CHANGE IN THOSE AREAS WHERE WE'VE GOT A CONCENTRATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT USING THAT, UH, OVERLAY PROPOSED ON ALL THE DISTRICTS, INCLUDING THOSE THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

I WOULD SAY USING, USE THE EXISTING PARKING METRICS THAT EXIST IN THE OVERLAYS IN THE AREAS THAT ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE BOTTOM, UH, THE, THIS GRAY COLUMN HERE.

UM, HILTON HAD A OVERLAY EXISTING.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT SUGGESTING EVEN MODIFYING THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING LET'S USE THAT FOR ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UM, USES.

BUT ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE TO GO WITH THE ZONE CO EVERLY PROPOSED EVERYWHERE.

SPEAK LOUDER? I CAN'T, I'M SORRY.

A MOTION.

ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS ALSO FORWARDED TO, UH, TO THE PLAN PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT'S THE ZONE CODE.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU

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I CAN'T HEAR, I'M SORRY.

TO, TO, UM, ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UM, AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GO WITH THE ZONE CODE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS PRESENTED HERE TODAY.

I JUST, I'M SORRY, I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

THE TOWN ATTORNEY MADE THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE ON BOTH OF 'EM AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, MAYBE THIS IS A CONSENSUS OF WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH PARKING WHEN WE COME TO THE FULL MOTION AT THAT.

I'M NOT SURE.

UH, I MEAN, I CAN BE, UH, INSTRUCTED IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.

BUT I, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD THE TOWN ATTORNEY SAY AT PLANNING COMMISSION.

'CAUSE I WAS JUST GONNA ASK ABOUT THE VOTE PARKING AT PLANNING COMMISSION AND I REMEMBERED THEY HAD TO VOTE ALTOGETHER.

SO I CANNOT SORT OUT THE DIFFERENCES, BUT, WELL, I GUESS WE GOTTA FINISH WITH TAMMY'S MOTION.

I'M SORRY, WELL'S MOTION.

I THINK THE PROCEDURAL QUESTION MAY BE RELEVANT.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET AN ANSWER TO THAT.

WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN JUST POSTPONE IT AND SEE WHERE WE COME OUT.

ONE MORE SLIDE.

WELL, THAT WILL BE THE ANSWER, I'M SURE ON THAT SLIDE.

SO THE CITY ATTORNEY AT THE POSITION DID STATE THAT SINCE THIS WAS ADVERTISED AS ONE ITEM, ITEM, THE VOTE DID NEED TO FOLLOW THE ONE ITEM THAT WAS ADVERTISED.

ALRIGHT, SO YOU CAN REACH A, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOME CONSENSUS AT THIS POINT, AT THIS POINT, AND THEN FOLD INTO A MOTION AT THE END.

WE'LL HAVE, UM, LET'S SEE IF THIS SLIDE HELPS US.

I'M NOT SURE.

I, I DON'T THINK, THINK THERE'S ANYTHING SUBSTANTIVE IN THIS SLIDE THAT'S GOING TO I AGREE.

AND IT'S THE, UM, NO, LET'S, UM, SO, UH, WE, WE HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA, UH, ACT ON IT AT THIS TIME, SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

ALL IMPOSE IN THE OVERLAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, THE NEXT CHANGE RELATES TO FLOOR AREA RATIO.

UM, AND IT'S ESTABLISHED FLOOR AIR RATIOS FOR THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE.

UM, ON THE SLIDE, AS I MENTIONED, UM, THE PURPOSE HERE IS TO APPLY A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE BUILDING SIZE ON A LOT THE, THE, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT VERSUS THE LAND, UM, AC ACREAGE OF THE LAND, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LAND, AND TO HAVE THAT, UM, RELATIONSHIP, UH, THROUGH THE FLORA RATIO APPLICABILITY.

YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRICTS THAT IT APPLIES TO.

UM, AND AS DEFINED, THE FLORA RATIO IS A MAXIMUM GROSS FLOOR AREA OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING IS LIMITED TO 0.45 TIMES THE AREA OF THE LOT ON WHICH THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IS LOCATING, LOCATED, PROVIDED, UM, OR HOWEVER THAT THE MAXIMUM GROSS FLOW AREA DOES NOT EXCEED 4,000 SQUARE FEET.

THERE'S INFORMATION HERE ABOUT THE RULES OF MEASUREMENT.

I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO DEEP INTO THAT.

I THINK THE GENERAL RELATIONSHIP IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

UM, WE HAVE DONE, DONE ASSESSMENTS OF THE DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW, OR THAT HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT VERSUS THE LAND AREA.

UM, SO YOU'VE GOT AVERAGE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN THESE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY.

YOU'VE GOT AVERAGE LOT SIZE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGE FLOOR AREA RATIOS WITHIN EACH DISTRICT.

YOU CAN SEE OVERALL, UM, IT'S A 0.32 FLUOR AREA RATIO.

UH, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE THERE'S SOME LOW IN THE STONY COMMUNITY, UH, 0.1.

UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE REALLY HIGH IN THE RD DISTRICT WHERE YOU HAVE, UH, UH, HIGHER HEIGHTS AND, AND, UM, OTHER CONDITIONS THAT INCREASE THE FLUOR RATIO.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S 0.89.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT, UM, ARE INCLUDED IN EACH ONE OF THOSE DIS DISTRICTS FOR, FOR SINGLE FAMILY.

AND AS POINTED OUT BEFORE, THERE ARE THE THREE OVERLAYS, FOREST, BEACH, UH, FOLLY FIELD, HOLIDAY HOMES.

THEY

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A A FLOOR AIR RATIO MAXIMUM FOR SPEECH IS 0.455 F FIELD HOLIDAY HOMES IS 0.45.

AND THEY, AND ALL THREE HAVE A MAXIMUM HOME SIZE.

YOU CAN SEE IT RANGES BETWEEN 4,000 AND 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND SO, UM, THIS BASELINE ANALYSIS WAS USED ALONG WITH THE, UH, THE LANGUAGE IN THE OVERLAYS TO MOVE TOWARD A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION.

GO BACK TO THAT ONE, PLEASE.

UM, SO IF, IF FOR SPEECH HAS A MAXIMUM OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET, ARE THERE ANY HOUSES THAT ARE MORE THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET? UM, FOR SPEECH AREA? THERE, THERE ARE A FEW.

SOME, SOME WERE, UM, YES, THERE ARE A FEW THAT ARE OVER 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

SOME, UM, RESULTED IN SOME PROPERTY RECONFIGURATION.

I WOULD SAY MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN LOOKING AT IT, UM, THE, THEY'RE MAXIMIZING THAT 5,000 SQUARE FEET OR THE 0.55 F A R.

AND, UM, AND WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE MORE RECENT LARGER HOMES ON SMALLER LOTS, AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE OVERLAY, UM, BUT THEY'RE MAXIMIZING THE, THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT OVERLAY.

SAME TRUE AND FOLLY FIELD? UH, YES.

HOLIDAY OWNED.

MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE F A R WILL NOT BE, UH, PART OF BEHIND THE GATE, NO, SIR.

AND, UM, AND I, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE DETAIL AS WE MOVE ALONG, BUT, UM, AND, AND SOME OF THE, AND WE, AND SOME ARE SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT WE KNOW HAVE BEEN BUILT REPLACE SMALLER HOMES.

BUT YES, THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE OVERLAY OF REQUIREMENTS.

UM, THIS ONE SHOWS A DISTRIBUTION WITHIN THOSE, UM, ZONING DISTRICTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY USES WITH FAR, UM, YOU CAN SEE IT KIND OF RANGES ALL OVER THE PLACE.

UM, THE AVERAGE IS 0.32, WE'RE RECOMMEND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IS CONSISTENT WITH A STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF 0.45.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT FOUR DISTRICTS HAVE, UH, AVERAGE ABOVE THAT, UH, 0.45.

UM, THEY INCLUDE LIGHT COMMERCIAL RMM 12 RS F SIX AND W M U, UM, REALLY THE LIGHT COMMERCIAL ONLY PARCELS AND PROBABLY NOT A GOOD DATA POINT.

UM, YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST AVERAGE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, UM, IN THIS DISTRICT, UM, AT 31 76, UM, AS PART OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE, THE FARS BASED ON UTILIZATION OF, OF THE PROPERTIES FOR SINGLE FAMILY.

UM, THIS ONE I THINK PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN, UM, BIT OF INFORMATION WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN AVERAGE HOME SIZE, UM, IN THESE DISTRICTS.

SO IF YOU LOOK IN 2022, RIGHT, SO THE LAST, SAY FULL CALENDAR YEAR OF PERMITTED, UM, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UH, YOU START TO LOOK AT THE SIZES.

SO RD 5,100 R M EIGHT 6,184, UM, R SF 5 6200 SQUARE FEET.

SO WE'RE GETTING AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 4,800 SQUARE FEET, UM, OVER THE, OVER 49 DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PERMITS.

AND YOU HAVE SOME MINIMUMS OF 1216 AND SOME MAXIMUMS. SO RIGHT NOW THE HIGHEST IS 8 8300 SQUARE FEET IN THESE DISTRICTS FROM A SQUARE FOOTAGE STANDPOINT.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS THE HIGHEST ONE HERE, KIND OF SHOWING A TREND OF RESIDENTIAL OR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PERMITS OVER TIME.

UM, I WOULD SAY BECAUSE OF MARKET CONDITIONS WERE A LITTLE BIT OFF LAST YEAR.

UM, BUT WE STILL CONTINUE TO GET PERMITS AND AGAIN, 50 AND, AND SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS IN THAT DISTRIBUTION JUST IN THOSE DISTRICTS LAST YEAR.

UH, SO I THINK THIS PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, UM, ON THE F A R AND WE LOOKED AT THE, A AVERAGE FA HOURS WITHIN THOSE OVERLAYS.

AND YOU CAN S YOU CAN SEE THE FAR, YOU CAN SEE THE LOT SIZE, UM, AND THEN THE EXISTING REQUIREMENTS.

SO OTHER THAN FOLLY FIELD, WHICH IS GOT A F AVERAGE F A R OF 0.4, AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO TO 0.45, THE OTHER ONES ARE REALLY MAXIMIZING THAT FLOOR AIR RATIO, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE RIGHT AT THEIR, THEIR, UM, THEIR, THEIR, UM, FLOOR AIR RATIO.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGE LOT SIZES WITHIN THESE.

THIS IS AN ACREAGE, UH, WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITIES.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT SOME OF THE, UM, FLO AIR RATIOS WI WITHIN, UH, SOME OF THE GATED COMMUNITIES.

AND SO INDIGO RUN HAS AN AVERAGE F A R OF 0.2 FAR, TWO FOUR AND THE, AND A FLO AREA OR LOT SIZE OF 0.71 ACRES.

YOU CAN SEE SEA PINES AT 0.37 F A R WEXFORD AT 0.4.

UM, AND SO THERE IS SOME RELATIONSHIP IN, UM, IN THAT, UM,

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NOT, NOT WITHIN THE PD, NOT WITHIN THE PD ONE ZONING DISTRICT, UH, BUT WANTED TO SHOW SOME OF THOSE FLOOR AIR RATIOS WERE LIKE INSIDE THE COMMUNITIES.

SO YOU CAN SEE ABOUT 10% OF THE 900 PROPERTIES IN FOREST BEACH HAVE AN, UH, DO EXCEED THE FLOOR AIR RATIO.

UM, AND AGAIN, SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN, UH, DUE TO LOT RECONFIGURATIONS AND ALSO SOME OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, WELL, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBERS WE HAVE SOMETIMES CAPTURES, UM, PORCHES AND, UH, AN OVERHANG.

SO, UM, THEY MAY EXCEED, BUT REALLY NOT FROM THE, THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOME ITSELF.

UM, SORRY, IF I COULD INTERRUPT YOU FOR A MOMENT.

LOOKING AT THE AVERAGE FIVE YEAR NEW BUILD, UH, PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE OVERLAYS, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE THEIR EXISTING REQUIREMENTS AND THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BUILT OVER THE FAR, SO TO SAY THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE FAR IS TO SAY THEY COMPLIED WITH THE LAW.

SO IT'S NOT THAT IF THE FAR HADN'T BEEN IN PLACE, THEY MIGHT'VE EXCEEDED THE FAR YEAH, I, I JUST THINK, I, I THINK WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY WAS THEY HAVE A FLOOR AIR RATIO MAXIMUM AND WHAT THE OWNERS OR DEVELOPERS OF THOSE PRO PRODUCTS ARE BUILDING, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAXIMIZING WHAT THAT UNDER THAT CAP.

FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU HAD EXISTING FAR RATIOS, I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST TABLE THAT YOU SHOWED US.

UH, THE ZONING DISTRICT RD RESORT DISTRICT, WHICH CONCLUDES PART OF THE FAR SPEECH AREA.

UM, AND THERE THE AVERAGE OF FAR IS 0.89.

AND WE'RE ONLY, AND THIS IS THIS SINGLE FAMILY, THIS IS JUST SINGLE FAMILY WHERE IN THE RD UM, WELL IN THE RD DISTRICT, WE'RE LOOKING AT SINGLE FAMILY USES.

AND THIS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AVERAGE OVER, UM, THE LAST FIVE YEARS FOR ALL SINGLE FAMILY WITHIN THESE OVERLAYS.

NOW THESE OVERLAYS, YOU KNOW, DON'T ALLOW SAME, THE SAME USES THAT THE RD DISTRICT.

AND THE OVERLAY DOES NOT APPLY TO ALL OF FOREST BEACH.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A MAP IN, IN HERE THAT SHOWS THE GEOGRAPHY OF THOSE OVERLAYS.

UH, WE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES AS WELL.

IF YOU LOOK AT BRADLEY'S CIRCLE AVERAGE LOT SIZES AND THEN THE HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT, UM, I DON'T SEE IT ON HERE, BUT THERE WAS ONE LOT IN PARTICULAR THAT HAD A F A R OF 1.32.

UM, AND SO TRYING TO POINT OUT HERE WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE OVERLAY PROTECTIONS, UM, WHILE I THINK THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF PRESSURE IN THOSE AREAS AS WE TALK ABOUT PARKING AND INTENSITY IN THE AREAS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THEIR PROTECTIONS, YOU'RE SEEING SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN DEVELOPMENT INTENSITIES.

AND SO AGAIN, ONE, ONE OF THESE EXAMPLES WAS 1.32, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT'S 0.97.

UM, F A R MAY I JUST, SINCE IT'S UP THERE, THE, THE BRADLEY CIRCLE AREA.

SO I LOOK AT THE RM EIGHT DESIGNATION, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN.

AND THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR EACH LOT SIZE TO BE MINIMALLY 0.125.

AND THERE ARE CLEAR INSTANCES WHERE ON A 0.125, UM, A LOT SIZE THE BUILDING IS 5,000, 6,000 AND HIGHER SQUARE FEET.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT, UM, DECEPTIVE IN TERMS OF THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE.

'CAUSE THEY'RE BEING SPLIT DOWN TO THEIR VERY MINIMUM ACCOMMODATE, UM, BUILDING.

YEAH, JUST FACTUALLY.

AND WE KNOW THE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT PROTECTION, WE'RE SEEING SIGNIFICANT, UM, INCREASE IN INTENSITY BASED ON LOTS.

AND I, AND I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT WHERE THERE AREN'T THE OVERLAY PROTECTIONS OR THE F A R, WE'RE SEEING MUCH HIGHER FAS, UM, THAT'S WHAT THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE IS FOR, TO PROTECT THOSE AREAS TO CREATE CHARACTER AND DEVELOPMENT THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE.

UM, REVIEW CRITERIA, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO, I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT, UM, RE REVIEW CRITERIA, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO TOO DEEP INTO IT, BUT WE DO LOOK AT OUR PLAN, UM, AND THE GOALS WITHIN OUR PLAN TO MAKE EVALUATION AND RECOMMENDATION.

UM, I'M GONNA SAY IT TO THE COMMITTEE 'CAUSE I SAID IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE EVALUATION THAT WE ENGAGED IN TO LOOK AT ALL SINGLE FAMILY, WHEREVER IT WAS ALLOWED IN ALL THE DISTRICTS TO LOOK AT THE IMPACTS OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS AND THE PROTECTIONS THAT THEY HAVE.

WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION AT 0.45 'CAUSE BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CONSISTENCY WITH THE OVERLAYS WE HAD IN PLACE,

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UM, AND THE, IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, I MENTIONED THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE AN F A R TO PROVIDE PROTECTION UNTIL WE GET DEEPER INTO THE DISTRICT PLANNING AND MAKE SURE WE CAN CALIBRATE EACH DISTRICT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

UH, AND I SAID THE AVERAGE IS 0.32.

UH, IF YOU LOOK AT ISLAND WIDE AND HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE LANDED ON WAS 4.45.

I TOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I WOULD SUPPORT THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND ADVANCE THAT TO YOU, WHICH IS 0.45.

I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE IN, IN A, SOMEWHERE WITHIN THAT RANGE.

BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THIS PROTECTION IN PLACE, UM, THAT WILL PROVIDE THAT UNTIL WE FINE TUNE IT WITH THE DISTRICT PLANNING.

SO, UM, MY, MY MY PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATION IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 0.32 AND 0.45.

AND I THINK THAT THE F A R, IF YOU, UM, CONSIDER IT ESPECIALLY A A F A R THAT IS LESS THAN WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO YOU TODAY, THEN I'M LESS CONCERNED WITH A MAXIMUM HOME SIZE BECAUSE I THINK THE, THE FLOOR AIR RATIO WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE, UM, CONSTRAINTS NEEDED.

BUT THAT, THAT, I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU AND LISTEN TO YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

PARDON THOUGHTS? AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS BEING DRIVEN BY SHORT TERM RENTALS, UH, AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT RESTRICTIONS THAT WE ARE APPLYING TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

SO I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, I THINK THE APPROACH OF FOCUSING IT ON THE AREAS WHERE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE PRIMARILY EXISTING WITHIN THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS MAKES SOME SENSE, BUT I'M STILL HAVING TROUBLE GETTING MY ARMS AROUND ALL OF IT.

BAKER, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE, UM, AND I THINK THIS MIGHT HELP YOU, GLEN WITH THAT, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE IT TO PULL IT UP SO THAT EVERYONE CAN READ IT, BECAUSE IT IS THE DRIVING FORCE OF WHAT THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE IS.

PURPOSE IS.

THAT PURPOSE AND INTENT STATEMENT IS, UM, ACROSS THE BOARD AND APPLIES TO EVERY, UM, BIT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE, UM, ISLAND.

AND THE PURPOSE IN 10 HERE IS, UH, NOT SHORT TERM RENTAL, BUT IT IS IN FACT TO RECALIBRATE THE SIZE OF A BUILDING HOME, UM, ON A LOT SO THAT IT IS IN BALANCE.

WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY HAPPENING ACROSS THE ISLAND IS THAT, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE FROM CORNER TO CORNER TO CORNER TO CORNER OF THE BUILDING ENVELOPE WITH NO NOTHING LEFT FOR, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE, PARKING CARS.

ANY OF THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

AND, AND, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT 'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN THOSE SITUATIONS AND WE'VE HAD TO ADDRESS THEM AND WE'VE HEARD THE COMPLAINTS.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE ISLAND, WE ALL TALK ABOUT, UM, THE FACT THAT IT JUST DOESN'T FIT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE ISLAND.

IT IS.

UH, WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS? WELL, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THIS, HELP OTHER PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECALIBRATE AND BALANCE A LOT SIZE TO A HOME SIZE.

AND SO, UM, I HAVE HEARD FROM MANY, AS I'M SURE EACH OF US HAVE, UM, VIA EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS, UH, THAT THE, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE HEARD TODAY EVEN A STATEMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SMALLER, UM, F A R THAN THE 0.45.

UM, I HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM STAFF THAT THEY THINK THERE'S SOME CALIBRATIONS THAT CAN HAPPEN AFTER, UM, AND THAT THIS IS A GOOD STARTING SPOT AND THERE SEEMS TO BE COMMUNITY SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

SO I'LL ACCEPT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AS IT'S BEEN PRESENTED.

IS R S BEACH, PALMED DUNES AND SEA PINES.

UM, I'M LOOKING BACK AT THE STAFF REPORT, UH, WITH THE ANALYSIS AND THE AVERAGE IS 0.32, UH, LOOKING IN THERE, UM, RD IS 0.89, RMM 8.50.

UH, WATERFRONT MIXED USE IS 0.59.

AND THEN THE STAFF COURT SAID EXAMPLES OF AREAS INCLUDED IN THE AVAILABLE DATA WHERE HOMES EXCEED THE FAR 0.45 INCLUDE NORTH FOREST BEACH, SINGLETON BEACH SAND CASTLES BY THE SEA, CAROLINA ISLES, HAMMOCK BREEZE, BERMUDA POINT, TANZI LEAF, AND JARVIS CREEK.

SO I THINK THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAN THOSE THAT WE'VE LISTED MOST IMPACTED BY SDRS BASED ON OUR GOV OS REPORT.

AND THAT

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SO I, UM, I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF LIMITING IT TO THOSE AREA TO CERTAIN AREAS.

I'M IN FAVOR OF APPLYING THIS IN ALL THE AREAS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

UM, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE TECHNICALLY THAT WHEN WE CHANGE THE FAR, UM, THAT THE EXISTING FAR REQUIREMENTS IN FOREST BEACH, WHICH ARE NOW 0.55 AND THE MAXIMUM HOUSE SIZE, THAT THOSE WOULD ALSO BE REDUCED.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE ORDINANCES DOES THAT AS WELL.

UM, SO, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF 0.32 BECAUSE THAT'S THE AVERAGE AND KEEPING THE, THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED, APPLYING TO ALL THE DISTRICTS THAT THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, UM, CONCERN THAT I SAID TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WILL REDUCE THE EXISTING FIRE REQUIREMENTS AND MAXIMUM HOUSE SIZE IN THOSE THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, BEING FAR, SPEECH VOLLEY FIELD AND HOLIDAY HOMES.

THAT'S, THANK YOU.

UM, FOR ME, F A R IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE PARKING CONVERSATION.

F A R HAS TO DO WITH, UH, ISLAND CHARACTER.

YES, IT'S DRIVEN BY THE ECONOMICS OF STR WHERE THERE ARE STR BEING BUILT, BUT IT'S ALSO IN RESPONSE TO WHAT REGIONAL BUILDERS HAVE DONE IN A NUMBER OF AREAS OR THREATENING TO DO IN OTHER AREAS.

SO I SEE THE F A R AS BEING ONE TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX TO TRY TO RETAIN CHARACTER OF THE ISLAND.

THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE TRYING TO RETAIN CHARACTER, UM, THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1970 OR A CHARACTER THAT IS BEING ESTABLISHED TODAY? SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE DRIVING CONVERSATION IS ABOUT.

UM, FOR ME, UM, IT APPLIES ACROSS THE ISLAND, UH, WITH THE EXCLUSION OF THE, UH, PD ONES.

UM, AND THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE OUR DISTRICT PLANNING, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE REALLY KNOW WHAT THE IDEAL IS FROM ONE AREA TO ANOTHER.

SO I'M INCLINED TO SET IT ARTIFICIALLY LOW SO THAT WE ARE PROTECTING JONESVILLE BECAUSE THAT'S IN THE PIPELINE TODAY, SKULL CREEK, BECAUSE THAT'S, BUT AS WE DEVELOP OUR DISTRICT PLANS, THOSE NUMBERS MAY GO UP IN RESPONSE TO WHAT WE LEARNED, IT WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE THEM GO DOWN.

SO I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THIS SOMEWHAT CONSERVATIVELY.

I'M, I'M WILLING TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION ON THIS, BUT I AM NOT SATISFIED YET ON THE PARKING ISSUE.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH COMBINING THE TWO, UH, MOTIONS.

BUT I KNOW GLEN HAS TO LEAVE HERE FAIRLY QUICKLY.

I'D LIKE TO GET A MOTION AND LET THE PUBLIC WEIGH IN ON THE MOTION.

NOT YET.

UM, MR. CHAIR, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.

I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE TOWN COUNCIL THAT WE ADOPT THESE TWO AMENDMENTS WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, BUT THE FOLLOWING CHANGES, CHANGING THE FAR TO 0.32 INSTEAD OF 0.45 AND MAKING SURE THAT IT APPLIES TO THE THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

THERE A SECOND.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THE PARKING, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE REDUCING THE FAR WILL THEN HAVE THE EFFECT OF REDUCING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION THERE.

A SECOND.

OH, I'LL SECOND THAT.

I'M SORRY.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

AND THERE'S A, A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THIS IS A PROTECTION FOR THE FUTURE.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THAT MOTION.

MAY I GET MY CLARIFICATION REAL QUICK, PATSY, WHEN YOU SAID MAKING SURE THAT IT APPLIES TO THE THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, BUT THAT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM ANY OF THE OTHER AREAS ACROSS THE ISLAND WHERE IT APPLIES, IT'S ACROSS THE ISLAND MINUS THE PD ONE ACROSS THE ISLAND.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS, MAKE SURE TECHNICALLY THAT IT CHANGES THOSE THREE OVERLAYS AT THE SAME TIME.

I, I, I WAS, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.

UM, THANK YOU, PATSY.

ALL RIGHT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING WITH EVER SINCE THIS STARTED.

AND, UH, IT'S NOT EXACTLY PERFECT, BUT IT'S BETTER ACTUALLY THAN WHAT I WAS GOING TO PARTNER WITH SEAN FOR, UM, THIS GLENN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.

THIS DOES NOTHING FOR WHAT'S ALREADY HERE, OKAY?

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AND WHERE WE LIVE ON JONESVILLE, IT'S A LOT OF VIRGIN LAND UP THERE.

AND THIS, IF IT'S NOT PUT INTO PLACE, WE'RE GONNA BE DESTROYED.

YOU KNOW, THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS THE SDRS, AND THEY CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANNA SAY, BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA LIE, CHEAT, AND STEAL TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN OFF THEIR PROPERTIES.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE PARKING.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE HOUSES THAT REALLY SHOULD ONLY CARRY EIGHT PEOPLE, 10 PEOPLE.

THEY'RE BUCKED FOR 30.

AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE A CAR.

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

SO UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT WHERE WE ADDRESS THE EXISTING PROBLEMS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

THIS IS FOR THE FUTURE.

SO PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.

HELP US.

ARE THERE COMMENTS, SIR? DID YOU WANT TO SAY YES? YOU WANT ME TO GET UP? YES, PLEASE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

JOHN CASEY INDIGO RUN.

UH, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION THAT'S, UH, ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW.

I HEARD BOTH THE CONCERNS OF MR. STANFORD AND, AND YOURS, MR. UH, AMES.

UH, BUT I DO THINK THEY ARE OF A PIECE.

I THINK IT DEPENDS UPON WHAT YOU WANT THE DRIVER TO BE.

DO YOU WANT THE F A R AS THE DRIVER DEFACTO OF THE AMOUNT OF SPACE AVAILABLE FOR PARKING? OR DO YOU WANT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO DEFACTO BE A DRIVER OF THE SIZE OF THE DWELLING? SO, UH, MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE IN FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS THAT I THINK THESE TWO THINGS ARE OF A PIECE.

OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, CHAD.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, WELL, WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE FOLKS IN JONESVILLE SUPPORT THIS, AND FOR THOSE AREAS, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT SORT OF NONCONFORMITIES YOU'RE CREATING BY DOING THIS.

UM, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THE EFFECT THAT THIS'LL HAVE IN, FOR EXAMPLE, IN SEA PINES, IF IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO FIND A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE IN SEA PINES.

BUT HOW DO YOU THINK THE SEA PINES ARB IS GONNA REACT IF THE TOWN REQUIRES EIGHT PARKING SPACES THERE? AND, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANNA SET UP A SITUATION WHERE IN ORDER FOR A OWNER TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE, THEY CAN'T GET APPROVAL FROM THE A R B.

SO THO THOSE ARE, AND MR. STANFORD, YOU'RE RIGHT, I THINK SHORT TERM REYNOLDS ARE DRIVING THIS AND YOU KNOW IT, WELL, YOU KNOW, HARD CASES MAKE BAD LAW AND YOU, YOU'VE MENTIONED YOURSELF, MR. CHAIRMAN, THROWING THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER.

SO IT'S, IT'S ALL THINGS CONSIDERED.

IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, TREAD CAREFULLY AS YOU GO DOWN THIS PATH.

I AM KELLY LEBLANC.

I LIVE AT JONESVILLE ROAD, BUT, UM, I HAVE FROM THE BEGINNING OF MY INVOLVEMENT IN DECEMBER, BEEN REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ISLAND AS A WHOLE AND ALL OF US, AND INCLUDING THE PEOPLE IN PDS.

AND I THINK THAT THEY, THEY ARE REALLY IN NEED OF SOME PROTECTION FROM SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT SHORT-TERM RENTAL PRESSURES, ESPECIALLY YOU'RE CREATING.

SO, UH, I'M NOT ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT JONESVILLE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, ARE, UH, IN THE JONESVILLE AREA, ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE ISLAND IN GENERAL.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ALL RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOLISTICALLY WHAT IS OUR QUALITY OF LIFE ON THE ISLAND.

SO I REALLY APPLAUD, UH, YOU KNOW, I WAS AT THE, THE MEETING YESTERDAY AND YOUR COMMENT ABOUT LIKE, WHY ARE WE SKIRTING THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ISSUE? WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT THAT DIRECTLY AND WHEN WE HAVE TIME TO DO THAT? IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH THE STAFF IS, UH, EXTREMELY OVERBURDENED AT THIS POINT.

AND, UH, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE THE, UH, L M O CHANGES JUST AS, AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET A MORATORIUM.

AND THESE TWO MEASURES, THE F A R AND THE PARKING ARE KIND OF LIKE, THAT REALLY TAKES THE PLACE OF A MORATORIUM SO THAT IT'S, IT'S THE PROTECTION THAT WE NEED IN, IN LIEU OF A MORATORIUM.

THANKS.

GRAY SMITH, UH, INDIGO RUN.

I, UH, I'M A NUMBERS GUY, SO I RAN THE NUMBERS, UH, FOR BRADLEY BEACH.

THE F A R IS 0.79.

SO I THINK WHAT YOU FOLKS ARE DOING TODAY, UH, IN INSTITUTING NUMBERS THAT ARE MUCH LOWER OF A, UH, FLOOR AREA DENSITY REQUIREMENT, UH, WILL OBVIATE, UH, OR OR ELIMINATE THE, THOSE TYPES OF EXCESSIVE, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTALS FROM BEING CONSTRUCTED ON OUR ISLAND GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

AND FOR THAT, I REALLY COMMEND YOU GUYS.

IN 2012 THAT SITS ON A LARGE PIECE OF LAND IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

WELL, I THINK I'M IN THE MINORITY IN THIS ROOM, BUT I BOUGHT A HOUSE IN 2012 ON BRADLEY, YOUR NAME SIR JAMES COWEN, 37 BRADLEY CIRCLE

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PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP IN, INTO THESE HOUSES THAT DO BRING A LOT OF CARS.

MY HOUSE IS A RENTAL PROPERTY, BUT YOU'RE DIMINISHING MY ABILITY TO DEVELOP THAT LAND.

AND HONESTLY, I DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO DO THAT.

BUT YOU'RE DIMINISHING THE, THE FUTURE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY.

AND WHILE THERE'S ISSUES TO BE DEALT WITH, WHO'S GONNA COMPENSATE ME WHEN I INVESTED IN A PROPERTY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALLOWED THIS DEVELOPMENT, NOW YOU'RE GONNA CURTAIL THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP THEIR LAND, MAKE LOTS OF MONEY ON IT.

YOU'RE DEVALUING MY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL WHEN I'M ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE ACTUALLY MAINTAINED A RELATIVELY SMALL RENTAL PROPERTY WITH ADEQUATE PARKING.

BUT NOW MY LAND'S VALUE WILL BE GREATLY DIMINISHED.

AND TO ME, THE TOWN WOULD OWE ME THAT DIFFERENCE, WHICH IS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

AND THE TOWN WAS BUILT ON TOURISM, AND YOU HAVE TO BALANCE THAT.

BUT I WENT AND THREW OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATH WATER.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING FROM NOW MAKING EVERY RENTAL PROPERTY A BUSINESS AND HAVING TO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE, THERE'S A REALLY ANTIT TOURISM SENTIMENT GOING ON.

AND TOURISM SUPPORTS THIS WHOLE TOWN.

PEOPLE'S PROPERTY TAXES, I DIDN'T RUN THE NUMBERS, BUT PROBABLY GO UP EXPONENTIALLY IF YOU DRIVE ALL THE TOURISM AWAY.

SO JUST THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT AND INVESTED IN LAND WITH THE OPPORTUNITY OF THAT APPRECIATING WHEN ALMOST NOBODY IN 2012 WANTED TO INVEST IN HILTON HEAD REAL ESTATE.

AND WE TOOK THE CHANCE ON IT.

AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THAT FUTURE VALUE AWAY FROM ME IF I NEVER DO ANYTHING WITH IT FOR MY KIDS OR MY GRANDKIDS.

YOU'RE DEVALUATING OUR, UH, INVESTMENT DRAMATICALLY.

USE OF ADUS IN THE FUTURE? COUPLE MORE SECONDS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, TAIWAN SCOTT, UH, FOR THE RECORD, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE FLOOR AREA RATIO, IT APPEARS AS THOUGH WE ARE ONCE AGAIN PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

DURING A RECENT GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE MEETING, THE TOWN STATED THAT THE MAJORITY OF WORKFORCE HOUSING IS CURRENTLY BEING PROVIDED BY THE NATIVE GULLAH COMMUNITY.

GULLAH NATIVE PROPERTY OWNERS CURRENTLY HOLD THE MAJORITY OF AVAILABLE LAND FOR, FOR DEVELOPMENT HOUSING HAS AND REMAINS OUR ECONOMIC SUSTAINABLE OPPORTUNITY.

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT WE HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS.

IF THESE ORDINANCES ARE PASSED AND WRITTEN, THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND POTENTIAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR GULLAH OWNED PROPERTY OWNERS WILL BE TAKEN AWAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE IDEA OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE AND THE PREVIOUS TOWN COUNCIL EVEN INVITED REPRESENTATIVES FROM VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES TO HIGHLIGHT THEIR POSITIVE RESULTS AND HOW ADUS HAVE HAS HELPED THEIR WORKFORCE HOUSING SITUATION.

THIS SHOULD BE REVISITED IF PASSED, THIS POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY WILL BE TAKEN AWAY.

THE TOWN THEMSELVES HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ADDRESS THE WORKFORCE HOUSING ISSUE, AND WE SHOULD BE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, PERHAPS TAKING IN CONSIDERATION SOME INCENTIVES FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO ERECT ADUS ON THEIR PROPERTIES VERSUS MOBILE HOMES COULD BE CONSIDERED, FOR EXAMPLE, CONSTRUCTION ASSISTANCE, WAIVER FEES, ET CETERA.

THE OWNER, THE OWNER WOULD BE, WOULD AGREE TO LOCK UNITS INTO WORKFORCE HOUSING PLAN OUTLINED FOR THE CERTAIN FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME PASSING.

THESE ORDINANCES WILL TOTALLY ELIMINATE THESE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES BY TAKING AWAY 0.55% OF POTENTIAL PROPERTY USE FROM LANDOWNERS.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME WELL EDUCATED STAFF MEMBERS WHO CAN BE CREATIVE ENOUGH TO DRAFT THE RIGHT LANGUAGE TO HELP RESOLVE THE MASSIVE COMMERCIAL HOMES BEING BUILT IN SINGLE FAMILY AREAS, BUT CLOSING THE DOOR TO POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY.

FOR GULLAH LANDOWNERS WHO ARE ALREADY PROVIDING A MUCH NEEDED SERVICE TO THE ISLAND SHOULD BE RECONSIDERED.

THESE ORDINANCES WILL SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECT GULLAH LAND OWNERS.

GULLAH LAND LOSS IS REAL AND BY THE PASS TOWN'S PASSING OF ORDINANCES, WHICH PRESENT PREVENTS OPPORTUNITY.

THE TOWN IS ONLY GOING AGAINST THEIR STATED GOALS OF SUSTAINING GULLAH GEECHEE PRESENCE ON THIS WORLD CLASS RESORT.

ANY ORDINANCE CHANGES, WHICH TAKES AWAY CURRENT PERMITTED USE OR DENSITY WITHOUT JUST COMPENSATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD BE RECONSIDERED AND NOT MOVE FORWARD.

HISTORICALLY, GULLAH LAND OWNERS STRUGGLE TO KEEP PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE TOWN'S LIMITED SERVICE FOUNDATION, AND THE TOWN SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERING ANY OR ORDINANCES, WHICH ADDS A BURDEN TO OUR HISTORICAL LAND RETENTION.

HOW WOULD THIS ORDINANCE IMPACT THE POTENTIAL

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I WANT TO ADDRESS THE PARKING ISSUE.

UM, WE'LL, WE'LL BE, UH, THE PARKING ORDINANCE WILL BE A BURDENSOME ON GULLAH PROPERTY OWNERS, WHEREAS THE MAJORITY OF GULLAH OWNERS HAVE MOBILE HOMES AND WE ALREADY HAVE DIFFICULTY PROVIDING TWO PARKING SPACES, AND THE AVERAGE HOME IS OVER 1500 SQUARE FEET.

THIS ORDINANCE WILL NOW REQUIRE AT LEAST THREE PARKING SPACES.

WE SERIOUSLY NEED TO BE TAKING A LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, NOT JUST THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD TO BUILD.

ALL LANGUAGE USED HERE FOCUSES ON STICK-BUILT HOMES, NOT MANUFACTURED HOMES, WHICH AGAIN, IS OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING.

ARE WE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ALL PROPERTY OWNERS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, TY.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, 'CAUSE GLENN HAS TO EXCUSE HIMSELF.

UM, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION, UM, I DO HAVE A CLARIFICATION THOUGH.

I DID NOT HEAR IN PATSY'S MOTION THE REFERENCE TO THE 4,000 SQUARE FEET.

SHE CONFIRMS THAT IT IS A PART OF HER MOTION.

YES, THAT WAS PART OF THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

APOLOGIES, BUT EXCEPT FOR THE, UH, FAR RATIO AND MAKING SURE THAT IT APPLIES TO THE BEVERLY DISTRICTS AS WELL.

SHOULD WE CLARIFY THE MOTION? IT'S TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN F A R RECOMMENDATION OF 0.32 TO INCLUDE THE MAXIMUM HOME SIZE OF 4,000 SQUARE FEET, CORRECT.

AND TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH A PARKING RECOMMENDATION AS RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND, AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THE CHANGES AND THE FAR APPLY AND THEM APPLY TO THOSE THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

REPRESENTATIVE AND SEAN, UH, THAT WE CONSIDER THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT.

UM, KIM, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? MR. JAMES? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ME GO FIRST.

I'M GOING TO VOTE IN OPPOSITION TO THE MOTION.

BRYSON? YES.

BECKER? YES.

OH, AND A MOTION FAILS.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TRY AGAIN.

I FAVOR THE F A R, BUT THE PARKING, THE, THE COMMITTEE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

SO IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, I'M NOT, I'M NOT A LAWYER AND I WILL QUAL I'LL MAKE THAT QUALIFYING STATEMENT.

THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY, UM, RELATED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING, IT WAS POSTED, THEY WERE POSTED TOGETHER.

THE COMMITTEE, THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, ON THESE ITEMS AS SEPARATE MATTERS.

SO IF THE COMMITTEES WOULD CHOOSE TO ADVANCE A RECOMMENDATION WITH AMENDMENTS TO THE F A R, THEN THE COMMITTEE CAN DO THAT.

IF THEY CHOOSE TO, UM, UH, CHANGE THE PARKING OR NOT ADVANCE THE PARKING, THAT IS, THAT IS A OPTION FOR, FOR A COMMITTEE.

COMMITTEE MOTION, UH, MR. CHAIR.

UM, I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND TO THE TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTION OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE FAR AMENDMENTS FOR THE FOLLOWING CHANGES, REDUCING THE FAR FROM 0.45 TO 0.32, MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THOSE CHANGES APPLY TO THE THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

TARA SPEECH, FOLLY FIELD AND HOLIDAY HOMES, AND ALSO INCLUDING THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF A MAXIMUM OF 4,000 SQUARE FEET.

YOU SECOND? SECOND.

I'M GONNA MAKE A, MY COMMENT ON THAT.

I THINK IF WE'RE LOWERING THE F A R 2.32 AND I WOULD, I WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE COMFORTABLE JUST IN THE AREA OF THREE FIVE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED THE 4,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO AGAIN, I WILL VOTE AGAINST THAT.

AND I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE DOES NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WITH REGARD TO THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

MAYBE WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION FIRST, PLEASE.

OH, OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

UM, THERE WAS ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION BY, UM, BY, UM, OUR STAFF

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THAT WAS, I DON'T HAVE THE THING IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT WAS THE SHADED AREA TO, TO THE BOTTOM.

I OFFERED AN OPTION THAT WOULD BE, RATHER THAN TO APPLY THE ONE SPACE PER SEVEN 50 TO THE PROVISION PARKING PROVISIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

TWO SPACES PER UNIT UP TO 2001 ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR EVERY THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT OR PORTION THERE OF INCREMENT.

AND I'D LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE.

YOU WANNA MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO YOUR MOTION OR? I THINK IT'S A GOOD FIRST STEP.

IF NOTHING, IT STARTS TO PROVIDE SOME RELIEF.

UH, I'LL WITHDRAW THE MOTION IF MY SECOND WILL WITHDRAW.

HIS SECOND PARDON? THAT'S ACCEPTED.

ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL MAKE A NEW MOTION.

SORRY, MADAM CLERK.

A NEW MOTION.

AND I LIKE THE ONE THE ZONE CO OVERLAY PROPOSED RATHER THAN THE EXISTING.

SO I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND TO THE TOWN COUNCIL THAT THE L M O AMENDMENTS ON PARKING WOULD BE THE ZONE CODE OVERLAY PROPOSED REQUIREMENT.

SECOND.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

NANCY MANLY.

SEE YOUR SHEET FOR A SECOND ONE DOWN ON THE, IT'S NOT THE EXISTING, IT'S WHAT ZONE CODE PROPOSED, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, A FEW MORE SPACES WITH THE LARGER SIZE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MOTION HERE.

YEAH, IT'S DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? I WAS GONNA TRY TO PUT THE PRESENTATION BACK UP, BUT I DON'T, WE'VE GOT IT HERE.

YOU GOT IT? YOU WANNA VOTE? WE CAN VOTE RIGHT NOW.

MR. STANFORD? MR. SANFORD.

MS. BECKER? NO.

BRYSON? YES.

SO 1 0 3 S, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

THAT, THAT WILL GO TO TOWN COUNCIL.

UH, IT'LL BE A BRIEF NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN TO TOWN COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER? YES.