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CLOSE CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY.
WE USUALLY HAVE TOPICS OF UPDATES.
THEY'RE VERY, UM, INFORMATIVE.
THERE ARE NO VOTES TAKEN AT ALL.
WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I ALSO, WHEN WE GO THROUGH EACH ITEM, I DO LOOK AROUND THE ROOM AFTER COUNSEL HAS QUESTIONS TO SEE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS BASED ON WHAT WE HAD QUESTIONS ON.
SO YOU FEEL FREE TO MAKE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
BUT DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE ONLY TIME AS LONG AS COUNSEL GETS INFORMATION AND GIVES DIRECTION TO STAFF THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.
SO WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING ORDER WE'RE ALL ACCOUNTED FOR EXCEPT FOR MR TO WHO IS ON VACATION.
OH, NO, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO PUBLIC COMMENT IS THREE MINUTES.
UM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND, AND, UM, YES, PLEASE KNOW.
IT'S JUST FOR AGENDA ITEMS ONLY.
SO YOU CAN SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER ONE OR TWO AND Y'ALL CAN READ THE RULES.
UM, PLEASE COME UP AND WE'LL START WITH MARSHA.
WE'LL CALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
MORGAN CRUTCHLEY CRUTCHLEY NAME AND ADDRESS IN YOUR THREE MINUTES.
WE'LL START WHEN YOU START TALKING.
MORGAN CRUTCHLEY, 10 FOGGY BLUFF ROAD.
UM, I'M WITH THE, UH, BLUFFTON PADDLE CLUB.
UH, WE'RE A LOCAL NOT-FOR-PROFIT, 50 MEMBER, UH, COLLECTION OF SPORT AND RECREATIONAL ENTHUSIASTS IN THE PADDLE WORLD.
UM, WE PADDLE ALL OVER BLUFFTON, ALL OVER THE AREA.
UM, FIRST I WANT TO OFFER OUR, UH, SERVICES FOR KAYAK LAUNCH.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS NEED FOLKS TO PLANT BUSHES, HAMMER DOCKS IN, UH, BUILD AWARENESS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE A GREAT GROUP.
UM, COUPLE ITEMS FOR A KAYAK LAUNCH, YOU KNOW, DID, DID SOME HOMEWORK.
LOOKING AT PREVIOUS MASTER PLANS.
UM, FIRST ITEM, I, YOU KNOW, I CHALLENGED THE FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING ON, ON THAT KAYAK LAUNCH TO THINK BIGGER THAN JUST A KAYAK LAUNCH.
KAYAKING IS PART OF A LARGER SPORT OF PADDLING, YOU KNOW, WHICH WE JUST HAD A GOLD MEDALIST IN KAYAKING.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOT OUTRIGGERS, YOU HAVE, UH, DRAGON BOATS, YOU HAVE, UH, CANOES.
SO I CHALLENGE FOLKS, WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT A KAYAK LAUNCH, THINK ABOUT PADDLING AS A SPORT AS A WHOLE, UM, AND INCLUDE ALL SPORTS IN THERE.
UM, SECONDLY, CEMENT LAUNCH, UM, OR NOT.
WHEN YOU'RE THINKING KAYAK LAUNCH, AVOID A CEMENT LAUNCH.
UH, THEY GET SLIPPERY, THEY GET WET, THEY GET SHARP, ESPECIALLY IF OYSTERS, UH, NUMBER TWO, WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT ANY, ANY LAUNCH, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN, THE PREVIOUS MASTER PLAN FOR THE OYSTER PARK LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A CRABBING FISHING DOCK.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT PLACE TO PUT A PADDLE DOCK THAT YOU CAN COMBINE AS A FISHING PADDLING THAT YOU SEE IT AT, WORK WELL AT THE SKULL CREEK OR ROWING CENTER AS WELL.
MAKE IT LOW PROFILE, NOT YOUR STANDARD FLOATING DOCK TWO FEET DOWN.
IT'S HARD TO REACH UP, PICK UP EQUIPMENT, UH, MAKE IT LONG, MAKE IT STRAIGHT, MAKE IT WIDE.
THINK ABOUT CARRYING A 20 FOOT CRAFT AND TRYING TO HIT PILINGS.
UM, ANY TURN, NO LS, NO TS CUZ YOU KNOW, YOU CAN JUST, YOU CAN KNOCK SOMEONE OFF THE, OFF, OFF THE DOCK THAT WAY.
UM, THOSE ARE THE MAIN POINTS.
UM, GIVE YOU LONG, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY 50 FEET PAST THE LOW POINTS.
SO YOU CAN INCLUDE A DRAGON BOAT.
WE ARE THE FASTEST DRAG BOAT SOUTH OF THE BROAD, UH, FINGER DOCK.
UM, IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING A, A FINGER DOCK IN THERE OR, OR, UH, SOME SORT OF KAYAK LAUNCH, I RECOMMEND PUTTING IT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY END, END OF THE DOCK.
SO THAT INCORPORATES, ADD SOME DISTANCE, ADD SOME DISTANCE DOCK, AND IT'S EASIER TO NAVIGATE AROUND.
UH, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I JUST WANNA OFFER, UM, CONGRATULATE, CONGRATULATE YOU GUYS OR JUST SAY KUDOS.
GOOD JOB ON, OR EXCITED TO HEAR THAT YOU GUYS ARE MOVING FORWARD ON, ON A KAYAK LAUNCH OF SOME SORT.
WE CAN MAKE IT A PADDLE LAUNCH AND A PADDLE DOCK.
UM, AND IF YOU NEED OUR HELP, ANYWAY, WE'RE GLAD, GLAD TO HELP.
HOPE THE COMMENT IS OVER AGAIN.
I'M GONNA, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT COUNSEL FIRST, BUT IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS, UM, THAT YOU CAN ADD TO, UM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND I'LL GET TO YOU.
UM, WE HAVE THE FIRST WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE KAYAK LAUNCH POTENTIALLY AT OYSTER FACTORY PARK, PAT.
AND SINCE WE HAVE A GOOD GROUP HERE THAT'S
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LEARNING AS WELL AS WANTING TO GIVE ADVICE, MAYBE REMIND ALL OF US WHAT'S IN OUR WORLD OF BEING ABLE TO DO AND WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE APPROVALS FOR FROM PEOPLE IN COLUMBIA.SO YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY PART OF THIS PRESENTATION.
UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, COUNCILMAN TUMOR AND, UH, THE TOWN MANAGER ASKED US TO LOOK INTO THE FEASIBILITY OF ADDING A KAYAK LAUNCH AT OYSTER FACTORY PARK.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, SOME OPERATIONAL AND SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THE BOAT RAMP WITH KAYAKERS AND BOAT LAUNCHERS HAPPENING IN THE SAME LIMITED SPACE.
SO WE, WE, YEAH, WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK IN THE FEASIBILITY OF, OF TRYING TO GET SEPARATE FACILITY AT THAT DOCK AT OYSTER FACTORY PARK.
AS YOU KNOW, THE COURTESY DOCK WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 2016, AND THERE WAS NO DEDICATED KAYAK LAUNCHING FACILITIES PLACED AT THAT DOCK.
I THINK THE THOUGHT PROCESS AT THE TIME WAS THAT, UH, THAT, UH, KAYAKERS WOULD LAUNCH OFF OF OYSTER SLASH BEACH AREA ON EITHER SIDE OF THE DOCK, BUT PRIMARILY ON THE WESTERN SIDE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WHAT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING IS KAYAKERS WILL LOAD AND UNLOAD.
THEY'LL PULL DOWN AS FAR AS THEY CAN ONTO THE BOAT RAMP, PULL OFF TO ONE SIDE, OR PULL OFF INTO THE BLUFFTON MOISTURE COMPANY PARKING AREA AND UNLOAD THERE.
AND THEN PUT IN, IN VARIOUS SPOTS THEY MAY PUT IN RIGHT AT THE END OF THE DOCK IF THERE'S NO BOATERS COMING.
I MEAN, THE, THE, THE RAMP, IF THERE'S NO BOATERS COMING OR THEY MAY GO UP TO THE DOCK AND TRY TO LAUNCH OFF OF THAT.
ALTHOUGH THAT'S, I THINK THEY DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT WITH THE DIFFERENT ELEVATION OF THE DOCK AND THE KAYAKING THE WATER TO KIND OF GET IN AND OUT.
UM, BUT, BUT MOST LIKELY IT'S USUALLY OFF OF THAT KIND OF OYSTER SHELL KIND OF BEACH AREA WHERE PEOPLE, UM, LAUNCH THEIR KAYAKS.
UM, THE OYSTER SHELL BEACH AREA, THAT'S PRIMARY SPOT WHERE THEY LAUNCH.
I THINK AT HIGH TIDE THESE PEOPLE CAN PROBABLY COMMENT ON THAT.
ONCE IT GETS PAST MID TIDE INTO LOW TIDE, IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT'S MORE OF A MUDDY, MUCKY KINDA AREA, UM, THAT AREA'S BEEN SALTING IN.
UM, IT CREATES SOME ISSUES THERE.
OH, WE WENT TO THE LOOKS GREAT, MAN.
AT LUNCHTIME, I WAS OUT THERE AND I TOOK A LOOK AND THERE WAS SOMEONE COMING IN FROM A PADDLE, UM, 90 DEGREES.
I'M SURE THEY WERE NICE AND HOT, BUT THEY WERE, THEY PULLED OFF RIGHT OFF OF THAT OYSTER BEACH RIGHT THERE, RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOCK.
AND I'M SUSPECT THIS PERSON WENT BACK TO HIS CAR, PULLED IT RIGHT UP BESIDE IT AND TRIED TO LOAD HIS KAYAKS ON TOP OF THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT CAN WORK DURING TIMES WHEN THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BOATING ACTIVITY, BUT IF THEY WERE TO PULL OFF TO THE SIDE OF THE DOCK OR OVER IN, OVER INTO, UH, THE OYSTER COMPANY PARKING LOT, IT KIND OF OBSTRUCTS MANEUVERABILITY INTO THE, THE DOCK, UH, THE RAMP ITSELF.
SO THERE IS SOME CONFLICTS THERE.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE, I THINK OUR FIRST TASK WAS TO FIND A SPOT WHERE WE COULD KIND OF CREATE A SPACE FOR KAYAK UNLOADING.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS SKETCH IS HERE.
UM, COME BACK TO THAT QUICK JUST SO I CAN GO BACK ONE SLIDE IF YOU CAN UP ARROW UP ARROWS, NOT UP ARROW.
I'LL REMEMBER I WAS JUST LOOKING, IT'S NOT GOING ON UP.
YOU WANNA GO BACK? WELL BACK ONE THERE.
SEABROOK SAYS BLUFFTON OYSTER FACTORY AND THERE ARE TWO LITTLE CARS THERE.
THAT'S WHERE YOU TOOK THE PICTURE.
RIGHT? BUT ARE, WHAT ARE THOSE LINES? ARE THOSE PROPERTY LINES OF WHERE BUILDINGS ARE, OR JUST A QUESTION? I'M NOT FOLLOWING EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE TALKING RIGHT NOW.
SEE THE, SEE THE TWO SEE LEFT AND OYSTER FACTORY? YES.
SEE THE TWO FUNNY LITTLE CARS.
OH, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE PROBABLY PROPERTY LINES.
THERE'S FOUR PARCELS THAT MAKE UP OYSTER FACTORY.
OKAY, YOU, SO ANYWAYS, THIS IS JUST A SKETCH.
THE RED LINES INDICATE KIND OF A PULL OFF AREA WITH A SIDEWALK CONNECTION TO THAT EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK THAT LEADS
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ITSELF WAY DOWN TO THE, UM, THE WATERS, UH, IN THE DOCK ITSELF.THIS IS EXISTING CONDITIONS, THE COURTESY DOCKUS ON THE RIGHT AND THE ROWE FAMILY DOCUS ON THE LEFT.
AND THAT BLUE LINE IS THE EXTENDED PROPERTY LINE.
SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT AT FIRST, BEFORE WE GOT INTO THE ALTERNATIVES I'M GONNA GO OVER TONIGHT, WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING A SEPARATE KAYAK DOCK THAT WAS PARALLEL TO THE EXISTING COURTESY DOCK THAT CAME OFF THAT WESTERN SIDE OF THE DOCK.
AND UH, THEN CAME OUT TO THE WATER.
WE RAN THAT THROUGH UM, O C R M IMMEDIATELY.
THAT WAS KIND OF SOMETHING THEY, THEY, UH, SAID WOULD NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY HAVE ONE DOCK PER PARCEL.
SO THAT THAT'S NOT A FEASIBLE.
SO THE ALTERNATIVES WILL HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT COMES OFF THE EXISTING DOCK AS OPPOSED TO CREATING A SEPARATE DOCK IN THAT AREA.
SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WE DO UP THERE WOULD REQUIRE A PERMIT, AN APPLICATION OR PERMIT.
THOSE PERMITS GO TO OCRM AND THERE'S A 30 DAY NOTIFICATION PERIOD.
UM, AND ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD BE NOTIFIED AND THEN BE ABLE TO PROVIDE COMMENT ON THE APPLICATION.
WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT CALHOUN STREET.
UM, PAT, SO WHEN THEY SAY THAT, WHAT'S THEIR DETERMINATION IN TERMS OF UM, ONE DOCK PER PARCEL? LIKE IS THE OYSTER FACTORY AND WHERE, UM, THE GARVIN GARVEY HOUSE ALL CONSIDERED TO BE ONE, ONE PARCEL AND NOT SEPARATE? THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
YEAH, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED OFF OF THE SAME.
THERE'S THREE PARCELS COME ACROSS AND THE FAR FARTHEST TO THE WEST IS TOWN ON, I BELIEVE.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE SO THAT, OKAY, SO MAYBE CAN YOU LOOK AT, SO THERE'S PARTS, SO, SO YOU HAVE THE BOY OYSTER FACTORY PARCEL, THEN YOU HAVE THE BOAT RAMP PARCEL, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PARCEL THAT THE DOCKS OWN.
AND THAT THAT TOP LINE IS THE, THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I GET THAT WHAT HE WAS ASKING IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, PERMISSION TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT ANOTHER DOCK.
IT WOULD BE SEPARATE FOR KAYAK LAUNCHING.
AND SO IF WHERE OUR CURRENT DOCK IS, THAT'S CONSIDERED TO BE A PARCEL, PRETTY MUCH WE CANNOT DUPLICATE ANOTHER DOCK THERE IF WE ALSO OWN THE PROPERTY NEXT TO IT, LIKE WHERE GARVIN HOUSES IS.
I'M TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING IF THAT'S STILL CONSIDERED ALL PARCEL ONE.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SAYING NO PROPOSED ADDITIONAL DOCKS, CUZ ALL OF THAT IS LUMPED TOGETHER AS, AS ONE.
YEAH, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE, IT'S JUST THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
YOU'RE AWFUL CLOSE TO THE ROW PARCEL.
SO CREATING SOMETHING THERE WOULD BE DIFFICULT.
THE BLUFF OVER THERE IS HIGHER THAN WHAT IT IS HERE AT THIS LOCATION.
AND GETTING DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF, OF A DOCK WOULD CREATE AN AWFUL LOT OF CONSTRUCTION TO GET YOU DOWN TO THAT POINT.
SO, UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME, IT'S PROBLEMATIC IN THAT SENSE.
BUT IF OCRM SAID ONLY ONE DOCK PER PARCEL, I GUESS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M RIGHT.
THERE ARE THREE, I SEE THE THREE PARCELS.
YOU HAVE THE GARVIN GARVEY RECTANGLE AND YOU HAVE A FUNKY LITTLE DINK DINK DINK DINK DINK MM-HMM.
AND THEN UNDERNEATH IT APPEARS TO BE PARCEL THREE.
IF WE ONLY HAVE THREE PARCELS, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR EAST PARCEL THE BLUFFTON OYSTER FACTORY PARCEL GOES, THAT'S, IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO IDENTIFY THE PARTIALS SO WE CAN SEE IT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M, THIS DOESN'T, THIS DOESN'T SHOW US, BUT THE BUT THE BOAT RAMP LOOKS LIKE IT COVERS ALL THE PARCELS.
THIS IS YOUR PARCEL LINE RIGHT HERE.
CAN YOU DO THIS FOR A SECOND? HERE'S A PARCEL RIGHT HERE.
LET'S SEE THEN I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA, IT DOES.
SO IS THAT COMING UP ENOUGH? SO YOU HAVE THREE PARCELS.
YOU'VE GOT THE ONE ADJACENT TO THE ROWS, THE ONE WHERE THE GARVIN GARVEY HOUSE IS, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT OVER WHERE THE OYSTER FACTORY EVENT AREA IS.
UM, THERE ARE ALSO SETBACK CONSIDERATIONS.
SO IF WE TRIED, AS, AS PAT WAS SAYING, TRYING TO EXTEND A DOCK OFF OF THIS BLUFF MAY BE FEASIBLE, BUT IT'S, THERE'S
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GONNA BE A LOT, A LOT OF CONSTRICTING FACTORS CONSIDERING YOUR HAULING SOMETHING DOWN THERE WITH THE GRADE CHANGES.ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME SETBACKS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MEET PER OCRM AS WELL.
AND THEN YOU'VE ALSO GOT ANOTHER DOCK COMING OUT POTENTIALLY AND CONFLICTING WITH THE BOAT AREA.
SO THERE ARE, I MEAN, YES WE CAN LOOK AT IT MORE INDEFINITELY WILL, BUT INITIALLY THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THAT OPTION.
IT SEEMED THE LEAST GRANTED THIS WAS WORKSHOP, SO WE HADN'T GONE OUT AND GOT A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER INPUT.
SORRY, Y'ALL, UM, WE'RE JUST STARTING TO DO FEASIBILITY AND IDEAS AND SPIT BALLING THEM RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT WHERE YOU WERE PROPOSING THE UM, THE ADDITIONAL DOCK AT INITIALLY WE HAD SPOKEN WITH MITCH BROWN IN BOLO ABOUT BRINGING IN THE EASY DOCK AND SO WE THOUGHT WE COULD COME OFF, COME OFF OF HERE AND COME OUT AND THAT'S WHEN OCRM SAID NO, WE CAN GO BACK AND CLARIFY WITH THEM.
UM, BUT THAT WAS GONNA TAKE OUT THAT IDEA OF HAVING TO COME FROM TIED IN AT THE PARCEL HUB AND COMING DOWN AND ACCESSING FROM THE BEACH.
KIM, SIR, WHY IS OCR R M TREATING US AS A, AS A PRIVATE OWNER? THESE ARE THE RULES FOR EVERYBODY.
YEAH, EVERYBODY BECAUSE THEY HAVE JURISDICTION UNDER THE WATERS FROM THE MEAN HIGH TIDE WATERLINE DOWN.
IT CAN CUT OFF DOCK PERMITS IF THEY WANT TO.
I UM, I THINK THAT MAYBE IF WE CAN'T DO IT IMMEDIATE, LIKE IN THE THE FUTURE, THERE DEFINITELY SHOULD BE SOME CONSIDERATIONS OF WHERE WE POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, A SEPARATE DOCK.
BECAUSE JUST BEING DOWN AT THE OYSTER FACTORY, IF THERE'S AN EVENT GOING ON, IF IT'S A BUSY DAY FOR BOATS, IF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PATRONIZE THE UM, BLUFFTON SEAFOOD CO, LIKE IT'S A LOT.
AND FOR KAYAKERS WHO, YOU KNOW, MIGHT JUST BE TRYING TO BE OUT THERE TO, UM, TO PADDLE OR TO DO THAT ACTIVITY, IT BECOMES TO ME LIKE A SAFETY.
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT, IT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH FOR THEM IN GETTING CONGESTED INTO, INTO ALL OF THAT.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE INITIAL CONCERNS COUNCILMAN TUMOR HAD WHEN HE CAME TO THE TOWN MANAGER AND ASKED US TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OPTIONS.
CUZ OBVIOUSLY HE'S SEEING THAT EVERY DAY AND THOSE CONFLICTS AND POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUES.
UM, IT'S ALSO WHY PAT ASKED WHITMER JONES FER TO TAKE A LOOK AT, CAN WE GET A SEPARATE KAYAK DROP OFF ZONE AND THEN HAVE THE, THE WHEELS OR WHAT HAVE YOU TO HAUL THE KAYAKS DOWN THERE AGAIN TO GET THAT SEPARATION FROM MORE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS OF THE RIVER THAN TO FOLKS PUTTING IN TRAILERS AND BOATS.
LET'S SEE WHAT HIS OPTIONS ARE.
THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THE PARCEL THAT I'M GONNA GET YOU BACK TO IT, PAT, I PROMISE DOES THAT MATCH THE LITTLE LINES UP? NO, NOT EXACTLY.
THE BLUFFTON EXPLORERS BETTER ON THAT ONE.
ANYWAYS, WE WERE, WE WERE INTO THE PERMITTING REGULATIONS AND ONE OF THEM WAS SPECIFICALLY 20 FOOT SETBACK OFF, MINIMUM OFF AN EXTENDED PROPERTY LINE.
SO AGAIN, THAT LIMITS YOUR SPACE ON THAT THIRD PARCEL TO REALLY DEVELOP A FULL FLEDGED KAYAK FACILITY.
SO I'M GONNA GO OVER SOME THREE OPTIONS THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT FOR USING THE EXISTING DOCK AS AN APPENDAGE TO THE EXISTING DOCK.
THE FIRST ONE IS KIND OF A LOW CAT COST PREFABRICATED, UH, UNIT, UH, CREATED BY EASY DOCK.
THE SECOND ONE IS A RETROFIT OF AN OF THE EXISTING DOCK TO ADD A PERMANENT FIXED KAYAK LAUNCH TO, UM, MATT'S EXISTING DOCK CONSTRUCTION.
UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT IS A KIND OF A U-SHAPED CONFIGURATION AND THEN A RETROFIT OF THE, UM, THE ADD KAYAK LAUNCH PLUS EXTENDING THE EXISTING DOCK TO REPLACE SOME OF THE, UH, DI UH, THE DOCKING SPACE THAT WE LOSE TO ACCOMMODATE THE, THE KAYAK LAUNCH.
THIS FIRST OPTION IS, UH, A PLASTIC OR, UM, FIBERGLASS TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
THE ONE, THE TWO ON THE RIGHT ARE MORE COMMERCIAL GRADE, BUT THESE ARE JUST BASICALLY ATTACHED TO THE EXISTING DOCK.
THERE'S NO PILINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
UM, THIS TYPE OF DOCK CONFIGURATION.
HOW, WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE TIDES WITH THOSE, THE, THOSE THOSE, IS THAT FLOATING AS WELL? YEAH, THESE ARE FLOATING, THEY'RE NOT REALLY FIXED WITH PEERS.
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I'LL SHOW YOU, BUT THEY WERE ATTACHED TO THE DOCK.IT DOES LOOK UP AND DOWN WITH, YES.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S TYPES OF DOCS THAT ARE ADA ACCESSIBLE TO THESE TYPES OF DOCKS THAT ARE ADA ACCESSIBLE.
I'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE MARINE CONTRACTORS THAT THEY DON'T LIKE THESE EXTENSIONS OF THE, THE, THE RAILS ON THE SIDES THAT YOU SEE ON THE TWO IMAGES ON THE RIGHT.
SO ANYWAYS, UH, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ATTACHED TO THE EXISTING COURTESY DOCK.
THE ONE NEGATIVE IS THAT SECOND BULLETIN POINT, BULLET POINT THERE THAT, UH, INDICATES THAT YOU WOULD LOSE, UH, BOAT DOCKING SPACE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE DOCK RIGHT NOW WHEN THERE'S, UH, HEAVY TRAFFIC AT THE LANDING.
YOU, YOU MIGHT GET BOATS PARKING BACK THERE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE DOCK AND THIS TAKES AWAY SOME OF THAT SPACE.
IT BASICALLY TAKES ALL THAT SPACE, RIGHT? THIS RED LINE IS BASICALLY THE RED LINE AROUND THIS IS THE EXISTING DOCK.
THIS IS AGAIN, OTHER SHOTS OF WHAT THAT, THOSE, THOSE THINGS LOOK LIKE.
IS THAT A REAL ONE? IS THAT A REAL LEG ONE NOW? YEAH.
SECOND OPTION WE LOOKED AT WAS, UM, BASICALLY, UH, CREATING A, UM, FINGER DOCK WITH A KAYAK LAUNCH IN, IN THE MIDDLE WITH TWO, UH, TWO EXTENSIONS.
UH, UNDERNEATH THE SURFACE OF THAT VOID AREA BETWEEN THE TWO FINGERS IS A KIND OF METAL GRATE WHERE YOU CAN STAND ON IT AND, AND IT'S BELOW THE SURFACE.
AGAIN, THIS IS GOT THE, IS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT, UH, TAKES AWAY DOCKING SPACE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE DOCK.
THESE BOTH WERE DONE, WERE SHOTS WERE TAKEN AT LOW TIDE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE, AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS ALSO IS YOU NEED DEFINITE WATER DEPTH FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.
UH, YOU NEED AT LEAST TWO FEET OF WATER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
AND I THINK WE DO AT THAT LOCATION, BARELY.
THIS IS WHAT THOSE TWO LOOK LIKE.
THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS A WOOD DOCK CONSTRUCTION AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE GUY STANDING ON THAT METAL GRATE UHS TO GET ON HIS PADDLEBOARD.
UM, AND THAT'S PROBABLY TRUCKS CONSTRUCTION.
YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE FIXED WITH PILINGS.
SO THEY WOULD WITHSTAND KIND OF HURRICANE ISSUES MORE THAN THE, THE EASY DOCK WOULD.
THIS THIRD OPTION IS TAKING THE EXISTING DOCK AND ACTUALLY EXTENDING IT OUT INTO THE WATER ANOTHER 20 FEET AND THEN TURNING IT AND GOING WESTERLY ANOTHER 60 FEET.
SO YOU PICK UP ALL THAT DOCK SPACE THAT YOU LOST PUTTING IN A KAYAK LAUNCH ON THE BACKSIDE.
UM, YOU MIGHT, AND, AND ALSO THAT L L-SHAPED, UH, PART OF THE EXISTING DOCK WOULD KIND OF CREATE A LITTLE, UM, SEPARATION FROM THE KAYAKERS AND THE BOATERS.
THE BOATERS WOULD BE PARKING MORE ON THE, ON THE EXTENDED DOCK PORTION AND THE KAYAKERS WOULD BE COMING OUT OF THAT REGARDLESS.
THEY'RE BOTH GONNA BE TRAVELING IN THAT SAME AREA.
SO THERE IS SOME CONFLICT THERE.
UM, AND THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE CAN'T STILL UTILIZE THE OYSTER SHELL AREA WHEN NECESSARY.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS WE LOOKED AT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO GET YOUR OPINIONS ON, YOU KNOW, CREATING A SEPARATE KIND OF LOADING AREA OFF OF WAR STREET AND THEN TALK ABOUT THESE THREE PARTICULAR OPTIONS.
IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THIS OR, OR, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS, WE WOULD TAKE IT AND UPDATE THE CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT AND, AND THEN WE WOULD MEET WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY WITH WHATEVER WE CAME UP WITH THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AND OPEN LAND TRUST AND RUN IT BY D H E FOR TO SEE IF ANYBODY'S OKAY WITH IT.
UM, WE'D FINISHED THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING ONCE WE GOT THOSE APPROVALS.
AND THEN RIGHT NOW, SINCE THIS IS NOT IN OUR CURRENT C I P BUDGET, THIS WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED MORE LIKELY IN FISCAL YEAR 25 UNLESS YOU WERE TO AMEND THE CURRENT 24 BUDGET.
THIS IS A WORKSHOP, SO YOU'RE NOTT REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT ME PART.
I NEED TO GO ALMOST BACK TO THE SECOND SLIDE.
RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE, RIGHT.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE, UH, BLUE RACKS FOR 'EM? WELL, UH, THAT WAS AN INDICATION.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF PUTTING KAYAK RACKS THERE SO THAT SOMEBODY CAN TAKE IT OFF THEIR, THEIR CAR, PUT IT ON A RACK, GO PARK THEIR CAR, COME BACK, WE'D HAVE DOLLIES, POTENTIALLY DOLLIES THERE SO THAT THEY COULD, COULD WHEEL THEIR KAYAKS DOWN, MAKE IT EASIER BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF TAKING 'EM FURTHER OFF THE WATER
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AT THIS POINT.SO WE WANNA MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE TO GET DOWN TO THE WATER.
UM, THE LAST OPTIONS THAT YOU SHOWED WERE YOU EXTEND THE DOCK AND, AND ADD, UM, YES.
HOW, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET TO THE DOCK? HOW ARE THEY GONNA GET THEIR KAYAKED FROM OFF THE CARS OR TRUCKS TO THIS DOCK? THEY WOULD WHEEL IT DOWN THE, WE THINK WE CAN MAKE THE TURNS AND THE FIRST TWO TURNS, THAT LAST TURN IS GONNA BE PROBLEMATIC.
SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT OF A MODIFICATION TO THE, THE, THE HANDICAP ACCESS POINT.
I'VE GOT MY, THIS HERE, IF YOU CAN FOLLOW MY CURSOR THERE.
THIS IS, THIS IS A PROBLEMATIC, SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ON THAT CORNER THAT'S AT THE TOP STAIRS.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO YEAH, THERE'S TWO SETS OF STAIRS.
WELL, UNLESS WE CAN REROUTE THE PATH TO THE DOCK, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T FIXED A PROBLEM.
UH, I, THERE'S AN EXISTING ACCESS AND HANDICAP ACCESS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S THAT TURN AT THE BOTTOM THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MODIFIED, I BELIEVE TO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ROLL A KAYAK DOWN TO THE, DOWN TO THE DOCK.
SEE THAT ON THE BOTTOM? SEE, GO DOWN FROM WHERE YOU TURN LEFT, LEFT AND RIGHT.
GO DOWN, PUT YOUR POINTER RIGHT TO THE LEFT TO WHERE IT SAYS PROVIDING SEPARATE, KIND OF SEE THE CEMENT BEFORE IT GETS TO THE WHITE DOCK RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S A RAMP AND I'VE BEEN DOWN IT, BUT THAT'S RAMP.
YOU HAVE TO GO BOOM, BOOM, BOOM TO GET TO THAT RAMP.
OR CAN YOU COME DOWN THE CEMENT DRIVE TO GET TO THAT RAMP? I THINK THOSE ARE STEPS.
THAT LITTLE YELLOW THING IS A STEP.
I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE STEP UP RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS WHERE WE ORIGINALLY, WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT TRYING TO DO A SEPARATE DOCK, WE WERE COMING OFF THAT POINT AND GOING OUT INTO THE WATER HERE.
BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS COMING OFF THE SAME PARCEL.
SO THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING WE COULD GET PERMITTED.
AND THEN I'LL ASK A QUESTION, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
YEAH, I WANT TO, UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME CAPABILITIES FOR KAYAKERS AND PADDLE BORDERS IN, IN, IN OUR AREA.
UM, YOU BROUGHT IT TWO YEARS AGO TO ME AND, UH, YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN UP.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA FIGURE THIS OUT.
BUT, AND, AND EVEN OUR COMP PLAN IN THE CASE, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, TO FIND MORE AVENUES FOR WATER ACCESS.
UM, COUPLE OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, AND WE LOOKED AT A PLACE TODAY POTENTIALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE, THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO STEP BACK WITH STAFF AND, AND SEE IF THERE'S OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO, TO REACH THE GOAL.
UM, ONE IS, AND AND I AND MAYOR AND YOU AND, UH, FRED WERE HERE AND I, I, I DON'T REMEMBER EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT THAT 20 FOOT STRIP BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THAT A LONG TIME AGO.
IT'S ON THE MAP THAT HE SHOWED A SECOND AGO.
THERE'S, THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE I SAW A MINUTE AGO.
IT SHOWED IT, I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS BLUFF.
MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACCESS FROM TO, UH, C**K DEAL.
IT'S C**K, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE.
AND THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM IN THE PAST, UM, WHERE WE LOOKING NOW, RIGHT? RIGHT HERE, RIGHT THERE.
AND I REMEMBER WE ENDED UP SHOWING IT ACCIDENTALLY ON OUR MASTER PLAN HERE.
AND THEN THAT CREATED SOME CONTROVERSY.
BUT I, I WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EXPLORE AGAIN FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE TO SEE IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY WITH THEM.
UM, ANOTHER THING WOULD BE THE, UM, I THINK ON A MORE, UH, GLOBAL VIEW WOULD BE TALKING WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY, UH, TO SEE WHAT THE COUNTY HAS AVAILABLE.
AND, AND IN SOMEWHERE IN THIS VICINITY, AT A MINIMUM THE COUNTY LIKE US SHOULD BE THINKING IN TERMS OF PADDLE BORDERS AND KAYAKERS.
UH, YOU KNOW, TO WHERE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO SOMETHING COLLAB, YOU KNOW, COLLABORATE.
UH, SO WHAT'S AVAILABLE THERE? I KNOW THEY WERE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING ON THE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REGIONAL, IT'S ABOUT EVERY OTHER MONTH A REGIONAL C I P COORDINATION MEETING WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND THE UTILITIES WE'RE
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ALL GETTING TOGETHER AND TALKING ABOUT HOW WE IMPACT EACH OTHER.UM, I'VE REACHED OUT TO JARED FLIK CAUSE THEY HAVE COMPLETED THEIR BEAUFORT COUNTY WATER, UM, ACCESS, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THEIR DOCK ACCESS, UM, ASSESSMENT PLAN.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE IT BACK IN HAND YET, BUT HE'S WILLING TO SHARE IT.
AND THAT'S AN ASSESSMENT COUNTYWIDE OF ACCESSIBILITY FOR ALL TYPES OF WATER ACCESS AND WHAT POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS THEY CAN DO.
BECAUSE I TOLD HIM WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS AND WE KNEW IT WAS AN ISSUE FOR OUR CITIZENS AND BUTFOR COUNTY GREATER CITIZENS AS WELL.
AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PARTNER ON THAT.
SO YES, WE, WE AGREE AND WE KNOW THE COUNTY IS LOOKING INTO IT AND MAKING PLANS ON DOCK IMPROVEMENTS AND RAMP IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.
AND HOW CAN WE BEST CAPITALIZE ON EACH OTHER'S EFFORTS.
AND, AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S WORTH THE CONVERSATION ON THE 20 FOOT STRIP BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT BESIDE OUR PARK.
AND SO IT'S A LOGICAL MOVE IF IT'S AVAILABLE TO, OR IF THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US OR SOME KIND OF AN AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY MAINTAIN IT.
I, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'D WORK IT OUT LEGALLY, BUT LIKE WE USE PARKING FROM THE CHURCH, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.
SO MAYBE WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT SOMEHOW.
BUT, UH, ANYWAY, I, I'M JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT THERE.
UM, AND, AND ANOTHER ONE WE WE LOOKED AT TODAY WAS, AND, AND YOU'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ENGINEER TO GET DOWN TO IT WAS AT THE UH, SARAH RILEY HOOK'S HOUSE.
AND WE LOOKED AT THAT TODAY AND IT APPEARS THAT THE, YOU KNOW, ON A HIGH TIDE OR NEAR HIGH TIDE, YOU CAN GET IN AND OUT OF THERE POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD REQUIRE MORE EXPLORATION.
UM, ANYWAY, I'M JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT THERE THAT PERSONALLY, UM, AS A PERSON THAT'S LIVED HERE A LONG TIME, GOING DOWN TO OUR BOAT LANDING, I WAS THERE MONDAY WHEN, WHEN MY BOAT AND I TRIED TO NEVER PUT MY BOAT IN ON THE WEEKENDS EVER IN BLUFFTON.
IT'S A ZOO DOWN THERE AND YOU'VE GOT KAYAKERS, YOU'VE GOT PADDLE BOARDERS, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WALKING AROUND, YOU'VE GOT THE TUMOROUS BUSINESS AND NOW YOU'VE GOT, IT LOOKS LIKE AN AIRLINE STRIP.
YOU KNOW, DELTA GETTING READY TO TAKE OFF AT ATLANTA, YOU KNOW, AIRPORT BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST BACKED UP ONE BEHIND THE OTHER.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE BEST METHOD ANYWAY.
WE HAVE TO KIND OF TURN IN ON THAT PROPERTY AND THEN BACK IN, EVERYBODY HAS TO WAIT.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT'S THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE, WE'LL HAVE TO EXPLORE IT.
BUT IT'S NOT THE BEST ALTERNATIVE.
I MEAN, WHAT THE ROWING CENTER AND HILTON HEAD IS JUST STRICTLY A ROWING CENTER SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CONFLICT BUILT IN.
NEXT QUESTION, AND I'LL START OVER AGAIN.
SO I LOOKED AT WHAT, UM, MORGAN GOT UP, HE HELD UP AN OLD MASTER PLAN AND I THOUGHT, LOOKING AT IT BRIEFLY, IT SHOWED THE CRABBING DOCK THAT WE WERE GONNA PUT ON THE YES.
BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON THE CAPITAL DASHBOARD AND I DON'T SEE IT ON EXPLORER, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT OLD, IF THAT'S OLD.
WE HAVE IT'S GOTTEN TO THAT PART.
IN PHASE OF OYSTER FACTORY PARK, THAT IS PART OF OUR PLAN.
SO HERE'S MY THOUGHT ON ALL OF THIS.
I THINK WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PARK AND IT'S KINDA LIKE WIDENING ROADS.
THE MORE YOU WIDEN, THE MORE THE CARS GONE.
WE HAVE CREATED A MASSIVE FAVORITE PLACE TO GO.
AND THE MORE WE DO, THE MORE CONFLICTS THERE'S GONNA BE.
I DON'T, I DON'T KAYAK FOR EXERCISE.
I LIKE TO SIT THERE AND JUST FLOAT.
BUT IT'S SCARY GOING OUTTA MY LITTLE AREA BY THE MCCRACKEN'S JUST TO QUICKLY GO OVER BEFORE A BOAT HITS ME TO GET TO THE TIDAL CREEK.
SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE CREATING WHAT COULD BE CONFLICT IN A MASSIVE WAY.
CUZ I DON'T KNOW WHAT AN EAGLE BOAT IS OR A DRAGON BOAT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY, REALLY, REALLY BIG KAYAK.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT ALL THIS IN ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET YARDS, MAYBE, MAYBE 50 YARDS.
I DON'T EVEN, WELL MAYBE 200 FEET.
AND I JUST THINK IT'S SUCH A SMALL PLACE TO HAVE PEOPLE AND WE KNOW KAYAKERS ARE MORE RESPONSIBLE THAN PROBABLY PROMOTERS ON A SATURDAY.
AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ASKING FOR LIKE SOMETHING REALLY BAD TO HAPPEN.
SO FOR THE, FOR THE ONE OR TWO THAT BRING KAYAKS DOWN, I THINK YOUR PLAN WORKS.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE A KAYAK IN PADDLE CLUB AND THEN WE JUST HAD A RIBBON CUTTING TODAY FOR A LADY WHO'S GONNA USE OYSTER FACTORY PARK TO PUT HER PADDLE BOARDS OUT.
SO I WANNA HELP EVERYONE, BUT I, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF WHAT JARED, I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT THE COUNTY'S DOING TO HAVE A BIGGER ROWING CENTER LIKE Y'ALL ARE SAYING.
AND WE SEE ON HILTON HEAD, IS THAT ON CALLIN RIVER? IS IT, WHERE, WHERE COULD THAT BE? COULD IT BE THE NEW RIVER? COULD IT BE SOMEWHERE CLOSE? COULD IT BE ALL JOY? WHERE COULD THAT BE? OR CAN WE USE THAT, THAT CRABBING DOCK THAT'S IN WHATEVER PHASE THAT IS WHERE YOU'RE FURTHER AWAY, YOU'VE ALMOST GOT THE OYSTER FACTORY SEPARATING THE TWO TYPES OF BOATERS KINDA
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RATHER THAN HAVING A DOCK SEPARATE ON.SO KIND OF IN WITH DAN ON THAT NOW, DAN, I, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHERE ELSE CAN A KAYAK LAUNCH AND WHERE DO WE HAVE PROPERTY? AND IT WOULD CHANGE OUR WHOLE THINKING AND WE'D HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT THAT, THAT COVE BY SARAH RILEY HOOKS HAS THE ABILITY, AND I SENT PICTURES TO STEVEN OF STOCK FARMS DOCK RIGHT OVER HERE.
WE, UHHUH
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE THE PADDLE CLUBS.
BUT I THINK YOU'RE HEARING THINK OF OTHER WAYS WITHOUT CREATING POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH WATER SPORTS.
I THOSE ARE, THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
ARE YOU DONE? I WAS WAITING UNTIL I'M DONE.
YOU AND THEN FRED HAD A QUESTION AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF, SO GOING BACK TO UM, WHAT MAYOR SELCO RECENTLY SAID, YES, IT'S, UM, THERE'S CURRENT CONFLICT THERE IN TERMS OF, UH, THE MULTIPLE USES IN ACCESSING FOR IT.
HOWEVER, WE, WE STARTED OUT BEING RESTRICTIVE AND I SAY WE AS A TOWN STARTED OUT BEING RESTRICTED IN TERMS OF THE AMENITIES THAT COULD BE THERE.
AND I DON'T THINK CONSIDERATION WAS EVER GIVEN TO, THERE IS A POPULATION WHO WAS GONNA BE KAYAKING AND EVEN BEFORE THE PADDLE CLUB, I REMEMBER, UH, LOCAL SCHOOLS WOULD COME AND HAVE KAYAK DAYS WHERE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE THERE AS WELL.
AND SO I THINK LIKE KNOWING THAT THAT USE HAS INCREASED, WE DO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND KNOWING THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT IN A WAY THAT'S, UM, CONSIDERATE OF THE SAFETY OF THOSE WHO ARE GONNA BE DOING IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A ONE OR TWO PERSON GOING TO DO IT.
IT, THE FREQUENCY OF THAT HAS INCREASED.
UM, AND SO WE CAN LOOK AT PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE COUNTY AND WHOMEVER ELSE, BUT I THINK TOO, UH, AS A TOWN WE NEED TO IDENTIFY IF IT'S WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT FIT HERE, UM, WHAT PROPERTY DO WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT, UM, WORK BECAUSE IT, IT IS A NEED.
I'M LOOKING AT, UM, OPTION THREE AND OUT OF THE ONES THAT WERE PROPOSED, THAT ONE SEEMS TO BE THE MOST, UM, UH, PRAGMATIC ONE TO USE, UM, FOR THAT PURPOSE.
BUT I'M NOT SURE WHEN WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP.
BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM WE GET BACK, OH, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO UM, HEAR FROM OUR, SEE IF WE ARE GONNA HAVE A TIME WHERE WE ALLOW, UH, I WANT ALL OF US TO GET, GET OUR QUESTIONS ASKED.
CAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE BROUGHT UP THE LAST TIME ABOUT THE, UM, CO USING IT AT THE SARAH RILEY HOOKS COTTAGE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT LARRY BROUGHT UP IS THAT THE WATER FLOW AT THAT COVE ISN'T AS SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF OTHER PLACES.
MEANING LIKE, IT WOULD BE A VERY LIMITED TIME WHEN FOLKS WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT PARTICULAR SPOT.
SO I DON'T WANNA RESPOND TO A PROBLEM BY KIND OF CREATING ANOTHER PROBLEM AND HAVING TO COME BACK TO THE SAME POINT OF THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE TO LAUNCH THAT'S GOING TO WORK, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM QUESTIONS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY TRIED TO ESTABLISH A BOAT RAMP, UM, OF COURSE KAYAKING WASN'T INCLUDED, BUT IN MOST PLACES BOAT RAMP DOES NOT INCLUDE KAYAKING.
SO THAT'S NOT LIKE OUTTA SIGHT OUTTA MIND, IT WAS JUST THAT, UM, BOAT RAMPING WAS MORE POPULAR BUT OR MORE USED NOW IN THIS SPACE IT HAS, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO, TO ACCOMMODATE UM, EVEN BOAT RAMPING IF YOU WILL.
IT REALLY, IT'S STILL, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TOO SMALL AND IT'S TOO CONGESTIVE FOR, FOR EVEN THAT UM, RECREATION.
BUT I THINK MAYBE OUTSIDE THE BOX WE CAN SAY THERE IS A DAY FOR KAYAKING ONLY AND MAYBE THAT IS A EASY FIX UNTIL WE CAN FIND A BETTER, A BETTER LOCATION.
LOGAN COUNTY SUPPORT ON THAT ONE.
UM, ISN'T IT? I'M JUST TALKING, DO Y'ALL HAVE COMMENTS ON THIS? DOES ANYBODY PLEASE LET ME KNOW CUZ I CAN KIND OF MAKE A COMMENT THAT YOU'RE GONNA MIGHT DOES HE NEED TO SPEAK? YOU'RE GONNA NEED YEAH.
LET ME, LET ME SAY THIS TO YOU GUYS.
I, I'M, I'M SO IMPRESSED THAT YOU CAME
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AS A GROUP AND YOU GOT ONE SPEAKER DONE, YET I SEE WOMEN THAT THEMSELVES ARE IT UP? WELL I WANT, THIS IS A FAIR, THIS IS A WORKSHOP AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE WE, WE DO THIS, BUT YEAH, MORGAN, IF YOU WANT JUST NOT A THREE MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT MAYBE A QUESTION OR A, A SUGGESTION.UM, WELL, UH, FIRST OFF, PROBABLY TO SAVE Y'ALL SOME TIME, I'VE PADDLED IN THAT CREEK, UH, BY THE RILEY HOUSE.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE STUCK OUT ON THE MAIN WATER.
UH, IT'S, IT'S JUST, WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE.
WE'VE, THAT'S WHERE WE CLEAN, THAT'S WHERE WE FIND ALL THE TRASH
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A VERY VIABLE LAUNCH SPOT.
UM, TWO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO BOATERS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT JUST PADDLE LIKE WE'RE RABID BOATERS.
AND YOU, WHEN I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE A PADDLE DOCK IN A, IN A BOATING DOCK TOGETHER, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CHAOS.
SO IT'S, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND FINDING A WAY THAT'S, THAT IT'S THAT IT'S SEPARATE.
I MEAN IF YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN EXPLORE THE, THE COLD C**K, UH, PASS BY.
I THINK THAT'S UM, UH, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY, I MEAN IT MAKES SENSE IF, ESPECIALLY IF BARRY HAD AN EXISTING CRAB DOCK PLANNED, TAILOR THAT IN.
HOW ABOUT CUZ LISTENING TO BRIDGET, YOU KNOW, IT IS A BIG SPORT AND I I A HUNDRED PERCENT ON YOUR PAGE ON THAT, LIKE SEPARATING THE LOVE THE PASSIONS OF HOW YOU GET ON THE RIVER.
EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY CARRY BOTH PASSIONS, YOU CAN'T DO BOTH OF THE UM, BUT HOW DO WE LOOK AT MAYBE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON ALL OF 'EM? HOW ABOUT ALL JOY WITH SOME MINI KAYAK DOCK? IF WE HAVE SOME PLACE HERE THAT COULD BE BETTER IF WE CAN CREATE IT, UM, I DON'T KNOW CALHOUN STREET DOCK, CAN WE NOT PUT, CAN WE NOT PUT SOME SMALL SOMETHING THERE RATHER THAN SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF UNBUDGETED DOLLARS ON MAKING A SITUATION? I THINK WORSE ON AN EXISTING DOCK.
THE CALHOUN STREET DOCK, I THINK WE'RE MAXED OUT ON LENGTH.
SO WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO RETROFIT SOMETHING INSIDE THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT IN ORDER TO DO IT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S FEASIBLE.
AND WE HAVE THAT WHOLE RIGHT SIDE.
I WENT DOWN THERE WHEN CHARLOTTE HAD HER THING.
THERE'S A RIGHT RAMP THAT GOES RIGHT DOWN, A SHORTER DISTANCE TO THE BEACH THAN ARVIN GARVEY.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION ON YOUR PROPOSED KAYAK DROP OFF? CAN YOU JUST PICTURE YOURSELF RIGHT THERE ON A SATURDAY WHEN ALL THE BOATS ARE ALREADY LINED UP AT THE PARKING LOT AND NOW WE HAVE KAYAK TRYING TO GET OUT AND YOU HAVE BOATS TRYING TO GET IN AND BOATS TRYING TO GET OUT.
I THINK THAT'S A HORRIBLE LOCATION FOR A DROP OFF.
JUST, I JUST MY 2 CENTS ON IT.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT IT WAS A STEP UP FROM PEOPLE GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END OF THE DOCK WITH THEY'RE KAYAK.
BUT JUST IMAGINE THE SCENARIO LIKE GO SATURDAY AND PUT YOURSELF THERE AND PRETEND LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE A KAYAK OUT AND SEE IF YOU'LL EVER GET TO EVEN, YOU'RE NOT EVEN ABLE TO GO DO A U-TURN TO COME BACK OUT.
JUST A PICTURE THAT I CAN PICTURE IT VIVIDLY.
CAUSE I WAS THERE LAST SATURDAY.
I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENED AND YOU, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.
I MEAN YOU OBVIOUSLY TOOK SOME LEADERSHIP AND FROM DIRECTION FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER AND YOU TRIED TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
AND THIS REQUEST HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU CAN TELL EVERYBODY UP HERE IS, UH, IN YOUR CAMP AND EMPATHIZES WITH YOU.
UH, AND WE JUST, BUT WE WANT A GOOD PLACE AND WE WANT IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND A SAFE PLACE.
AND, AND AGAIN, I'M ANXIOUS TO HEAR WHAT THE COUNTY'S ENVISIONING BECAUSE, AND TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR IS BIG OF A COUNTY AS WE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, EGRESS OR INGRESS BY WATER, I MEAN WATER IS EVERYWHERE AROUND US IN THE LOW COUNTRY.
AND WE, THAT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR THEME.
I MEAN, WHEN I SPEAK, I'M SPEAKING IN TERMS OF COUNTY, THERE SHOULD BE MULTIPLE PLACES.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE BOAT LANDINGS.
THERE SHOULD BE MULTIPLE PLACES IN THE COUNTY FOR KAYAKERS AND PADDLEBOARD PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE RIVER WITH THEIR SPORT JUST LIKE THE BOAT, BOAT BOATERS DO.
SO THEY CLEAN OUT THE MORE THAN THE BOATERS.
I I THINK WE HAVE TO, KIM, I THINK WE HAVE TO REVISIT THAT WITH THEM.
AND, AND, AND MAYBE THIS DAY FORWARD WE START POSING THAT AS A COUNSEL TO THEM TO LET'S, LET'S SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
SO GOING BACK TO AN IDEA, UM, THAT YOU POSED, UM, EARLIER, I WANNA UM, HEAR PAT FROM YOU YOUR THOUGHTS ON BEING ABLE TO, CUZ YOU DID A GREAT JOB HERE WITH THIS UH, PRESENTATION AND BEING ABLE TO REPLICATE THE SAME THING IN, UM, USING THE LOCATION AS, UH, THE
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WRIGHT FAMILY OR THE CALHOUN AREA IN TERMS OF YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO RETROFIT IT TO MAKE IT WORK.WHAT WOULD THAT, UM, LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF, IF THIS IS OUT OF THE PICTURE, HOW DO WE DO THE SAME THING AT A, UM, DOCK THAT'S NOT AS BURDENED ALREADY WITH, UM, WITH BOATERS MM-HMM.
AND I THINK THE ENDS ARE SOMEWHAT CLEAR FOR FISHERMEN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW REPORTED TOO, EXCUSE ME, YOU BUT JOINT JURY REPORTED IT.
SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO SACRIFICE A BIT IS THE ENDS OF THAT DOCK.
NOW THE, AGAIN, I I HATE TO THROW OUT NEGATIVES, BUT PARKING AT WRIGHT FAMILY PARK IS MUCH VERY LIMITED, WORSE, VERY LIMITED.
SO IT IS IN, IN BLUFF IN BLUFFTON THOUGH, LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S A NIGHTMARE EVERYWHERE BECAUSE EVEN, EVEN OYSTER FACTORY, LIKE NO ONE'S ABLE TO PARK THERE ON WHEN IT'S A DAY PEOPLE ARE ACCESSING BECAUSE WE NOT ONLY HAVE THOSE ACCESSING FOR WATER PURPOSES, BUT YOU PUT AN EVENT DOWN THERE AT THE SAME TIME AND YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE REGARDLESS.
I THINK THOUGH THE, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GAIN A BENEFIT FROM IT ON KNOWING THAT PARKING MIGHT BE LIMITED, BUT IT'S A SAFER ACCESS POINT FOR KAYAKERS AND IT SEEMS TO BE A MORE EASIER PATH TO GET TO HAVING THAT SEPARATE LAUNCH THAN NOT HAVING ONE AT ALL OR WAITING ON A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, I'D RATHER, YOU KNOW, SEE AT LEAST WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IF IT IS FEASIBLE TO PLACE IT THERE.
YOU STILL HAVE TO BEAR IN MIND YOUR CHURCHES THOUGH AT CHURCH, TWO CHURCHES.
WHAT WALKING, WHAT IS THE PROCESS? I MEAN, WHERE ARE WE ON THE CRAB DOCK THAT COULDN'T BE RELOOKED AT AS A KAYAK DOCK? OUR KAYAK RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEVELOPING THAT MASTER PLAN IN PHASES.
WE'RE IN THE PHASE NOW WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THE EVENT AREA.
THE NEXT PHASE WOULD BE THE KIND OF THE BULKHEAD AND, AND THE AND THE CRABBING DOCK.
AND ISN'T THAT, WOULDN'T THAT COME BEFORE ANY NEW PROJECT ON OUR CIP LIST? UNLESS WE DECIDED TO REARRANGE IT, WOULDN'T THAT ACTUALLY BE SOONER THAN SOMETHING BRAND NEW? AND YOU HEARD MORGAN, I MEAN DID I THINK HE SAID MIXING HIS THOUGHTS ARE MIXING BOATING DOCKS AND KAYAK DOCKS COULD ALMOST NOT WORK.
SO IF WE LOOKED AT THE CRABBING DOCK TO SOLVE THE SAME PROBLEM, DOESN'T THAT FALL IN AROUND 2025 TOO OR SIX DESIGN FOR SURE.
CONSTRUCTION PROBABLY 26 AND IT'LL ALL BE, IT'LL ALL BE DEPENDENT ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY ALLOW US TO HAVE THAT DOCK OFF OF A 20 FOOT ACCESS NUMBER ONE.
AND THE OTHER THING IS HOW DOES THAT WORK IN RELATION TO THE DOCKET A BLUFFTON SEAFOOD COMPANY WHICH IS BEING WORKED ON I THINK NOW OR IT'S BEEN PERMITTED.
SO THERE'S SPACE THERE WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
THAT'S WHY WE LOOKED AT IT MORE AS A CRABBING DOCK AT THE TIME.
CUZ WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT TO PERMIT.
BUT AGAIN, IS THE KAYAK DOCK MORE DIFFICULT TO PERMIT THAN A CRABBING DOCK? IT'D BE EASIER THAN A FLOATING DOCK.
I WOULD THEY GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS.
WELL I WAS, I JUST DISCLOSURE, I WAS TELLING DAN TODAY EMMETT WAS TRYING TO DO A DOCK OFF OF HER DEER COVE AND HE WAS GETTING DENIED.
SO HE CHANGED IT TO A KAY KAYAK DOCK MAYBE.
AND IT WAS MORE OF A LAUNCHING, IT'S NOT A DOCK OUT.
IT'S KIND OF STEPS THAT GO DOWN WHERE IT'S EASY TO GET IN.
I, AND THAT'S JUST MY POINT OF REFERENCE FOR
YES, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
SO I KNOW WE HAVE A COUNCILMAN THAT'S NOT HERE THAT REALLY SEES IT EVERY DAY, BUT I HEAR FROM THE GROUP THAT'S KAYAKING, THEY DON'T SEE THAT THIS COULD WORK.
BUT HOW DO WE DO A SHORT TERM UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT, UM, COLD C**K LAND AND POSSIBLE ANOTHER OPTION? OKAY.
THAT'S WHAT THESE WORKSHOPS ARE ALL ABOUT, TRYING TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT THE BEST ALTERNATIVES ARE.
WELL I MEAN WE MUDDLED THROUGH THIS LONG
THERE'S SOME OTHER POTENTIAL IDEAS THERE.
AND AS I SAID, WE HAVE THAT MEETING ALREADY SCHEDULED WITH THE COUNTY ON MONDAY FOR OUR NEXT BIMONTHLY COORDINATION MEETING.
AND I HAD ALREADY REACHED OUT TO JARED AND HE KNOWS THAT THIS IS AN INTEREST FOR US.
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HEARING FROM BOTH OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND FROM YOU, LET'S NOT REALLY MOVE FORWARD SO MUCH ON THESE CURRENT DESIGNS AND STOP, LET'S LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES, HOW WE CAN COORDINATE WITH THE COUNTY BETTER WHERE THEY ARE.UM, AND COME BACK AND PERHAPS THIS IS, WELL PERHAPS THIS IS SOMETHING WE BRING TO YOU IN STRATEGIC PLANNING THEN BECAUSE ANOTHER QUARTERLY WORKSHOP WOULD BE OCTOBER STRATEGIC PLANNING IS NOVEMBER AND THAT'LL GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO SEE WHERE THE COUNTY'S GOING AND ASSESS SOME OF THESE ULTERIOR.
CAN YOU, IF MORGAN IS GONNA BE THE SPOKESPERSON OR IF WE CAN GET MULTIPLE EMAILS THAT THEY UNDERSTAND HE HAD, I READ YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT'S REALLY GREAT INFORMATION I WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT.
SO CAN WE MAKE SURE MORGAN'S KIND OF IN THE LOOP AS TO WHAT THE PLANS ARE AND THEN HE CAN PASS IT ALONG? DEFINITELY.
AND ONE LAST OBSERVATION, AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE ALREADY THOUGHT OF THIS.
UM, WHEN YOU SPEAK WITH THE COUNTY AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE THE BOATS.
IF YOU HAVE VERY FEW AND YOU HAVE VERY LIMITED PLACES, LIKE EVERYBODY COMES TO THE WORCESTER FACTORY, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY, IT'S A MAGNET, RIGHT? BUT IF YOU HAD MORE PLACES YOU COULD SPREAD MORE OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH KAYAKERS AND PEDAL BOARD AS WELL AS WELL.
SO WHEN WE TALK TO THEM, IT'S NOT JUST A BLUFFTON PROBLEM, IT'S A COUNTY PROBLEM.
I WON'T SAY PROBLEM, BUT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I MEAN DEFINITELY WE ALL KNOW EVERY PEOPLE ARE EVERY PERSON THAT'S MOVING HERE SO THEY CAN HEAR FROM THE ENVIRONMENT AND ACCESS TO WATER.
SO WATER ACCESS IS HIGH PRIORITY FOR ALL, ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
I LIKE I WROTE IN AN ARTICLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONSTANT REMINDING OF SAFETY, BUT ALL OF OUR, ALL OF US ARE GROWN UP NOW.
SO IT'S, AND WE'RE NOT LEAVING.
SO NOT ONLY ARE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN, BUT WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE GROWING UP THAT WANT TO BENEFIT FROM WHAT THEY SAW AS CHILDREN.
AND WE HAVE, I COULD NAME, I MEAN WE HAVE BUCKINGHAM, WE HAVE THE BRIDGE RIGHT THERE AT PINNEY ISLAND.
WE HAVE PINNEY, PINNEY ISLAND, WE HAVE UM, SOMO CREEK, ALL JOY THEY'RE DOING NOW.
WE HAVE US, WE HAVE NEW RIVER, WE HAVE A PLACE.
I'M ALL ABOUT A ROWING CENTER.
WE WOULD HAVE TO DEDICATE IT TO CHARLOTTE BY THE WAY.
UM, BUT I'M ALL ABOUT, I WOULD LOVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN, ON THIS SIDE OF THE BRIDGE.
SO Y'ALL STAY ACTIVE AND COME AS A GROUP CUZ YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
WHETHER YOU SPEAK OR NOT, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ENGAGED AND INTERESTED.
UM, AND I WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR INTERN MR. AL WHO WORKED TO PUT THAT POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TOGETHER WITH PAT AND WITH CHARLES SAVINO ALSO.
JOHN, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY, ARE DO YOU THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK? Y'ALL DO IT EVERY DAY.
SO WE KIND OF WERE THINKING WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.
WE SHOULD HAVE MADE, WE SHOULD HAVE MADE HIM PRESENT IT.
YOU KNEW IT BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE.
THIS ONE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN EASIER LIFT.
THIS IS MORE FOR INFORMATION THAN FOR INPUT.
UH, AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH YOU THIS EVENING IS WHAT OUR PLANS ARE FOR ASSESSING COMPREHENSIVELY THE ONGOING DRAINAGE ISSUES WE SEE IN THE BUCK ISLAND ROAD IN SIMMONS BILL AREAS.
AND THIS WILL BE UNDER, UH, DAN'S TUTELAGE AND GUIDANCE AS PROJECT MANAGER MOVING FORWARD.
SO ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DAN CAN TELL YOU CUZ HE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE DRAINAGE PLAN IS A NEWER PROJECT THAT WE HAVE PUT INTO THE CIP AND REALLY THIS, THIS ACCOMPLISHES TWO MISSIONS FOR US, ONE FOR OUR MS FOUR FOR OUR MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM SEWER SYSTEM ASSESSMENT OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND AN ASSET INVENTORY.
WHAT DO WE HAVE? WHO'S, IS IT, WHAT'S ITS CONDITION? DOES IT NEED TO BE MAINTAINED? DOES IT NEED TO BE UPSIZED UPGRADED? AND AGAIN, IS IT OURS OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S TO INFORM THEM OF THAT? SO THAT'S THE OVERALL SCOPE OF, OF THE POTENTIAL, UM, COMPREHENSIVE DRAINAGE PLAN PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD.
AND AS I SAID, THE GOALS OF THESE ASSESSMENTS REALLY ARE TO SEE ARE THEY FUNCTIONING AS THEY SHOULD.
WE KNOW WE HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE TOWN STILL HAS VERY LITTLE DRAINAGE IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE TRULY OWN THE MOST.
MOST OF ITS PRIVATE AND OR COUNTY OR D O T.
SO HOW DO WE GET THEM TO THE TABLE TO DO THIS AS WELL? AGAIN, THESE ARE ONGOING ISSUES WE'VE DISCUSSED FOR A LONG TIME.
AFTER DOING THAT INVENTORY AND ASSESSMENT, ANOTHER GOAL IS TO RUN THROUGH A HYDRAULIC HYDROLOGIC MODEL AND H AND H MODEL.
AND THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT IS UNDER CHANGING
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CURRENT IN CHANGING WEATHER PATTERNS AND CONDITIONS AND LOOKING FORWARD INTO SEA LEVEL RISE SCENARIOS, IS THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, IF IT'S MAINTAINED, UM, AT ADEQUATELY GONNA CONVEY THOSE STORM EVENTS OR NOT? OR DOES IT NEED TO BE UPSIZED? SO THINK FORWARD THINKING AS WELL.UM, WHAT THIS WILL ALSO CREATE FOR US IS A LIST OF THAT ARE THEN SPINOFF INDIVIDUAL DRAINAGE PROJECTS.
NOT UNLIKE THE ONE THAT DAN COMPLETED, WHICH IS THE BUCK ISLAND DRAINAGE AND FLOOD IMPROVEMENT TO HELP PREVENT THE FLOODING FROM THE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT OF MR. JENKINS' PROPERTY.
CLEARLY WE STILL KNOW WITH THE WETLAND IT'S NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.
THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO, TO UM, ASSESS OUT THERE.
AND AS I SAID, ALSO INFORMING OTHER ASSET OWNERS OF THE NA MAINTENANCE NEED.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE, THE SCOPE IN JUST A SECOND IN THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR THE BUCK ISLAND SIMMONS BILL AREA.
BUT A PICTURE'S WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.
DAN HAS JUST COMPLETED THIS FOR THE HAYWARD COVE AREA, WHICH WAS A VERY LARGE DRAINAGE BASIN, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
UM, SOME OF THE DELIVERABLES THAT HE'S GOTTEN FROM THIS PARTICULAR ASSESSMENT IS REALLY GONNA BE IMPORTANT IN OUR, AGAIN, COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY AND D O T FOR MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS C I P PROJECTS AND POTENTIALLY INFORMING SOME FUTURE C I P PROJECTS FOR OURSELVES AS WELL.
SO SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE GOT OUT OF THIS ARE THE STORMWATER ASSET OWNERSHIP MAP.
WHO'S GOT WHAT, WHAT IS A POTENTIAL C I P PROJECT MAP? WHAT NEEDS TO BE UPSIZED OR RETROFITTED? UM, ALSO LOOKING AT AN ASSET MAINTENANCE PROJECT MAP.
UM, AGAIN, WHO NEEDS TO DO WHAT? AND THEN THIS IS WHERE IT GETS REALLY INTERESTING IN RUNNING THOSE MODELS.
IF YOU'RE MAYBE A GEEK LIKE ME, IT'S INTERESTING, RIGHT? IT IT'S LOOKING AT AN A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT.
UM, WHAT IS PROPOSED TO BE IMPROVED VIA MAINTENANCE OR C I P VERSUS EXISTING CONDITION INUNDATION MAPS.
THESE ARE YOUR HURRICANE SCENARIOS.
YOUR, YOU KNOW, OR EVEN HAVE SOME OF THE HEAVIER RAINSTORMS WE'VE BEEN SEEING LATELY.
WHAT'S GOING TO FLOOD NOW IF WE DON'T MAINTAIN IT AND IF WE MAINTAIN IT, WHERE WILL WE CONTAIN THE FLOODING TOO? AND THEN THE FUTURE FORECASTING LOOKING FOR IF WE CONTINUE WITH MAKING ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND WE'VE DONE THEM, WHAT IF WE PUT TWO FEET OF SEA LEVEL RISE AND A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT ON THE BACK END OF IT? WHERE WOULD THIS AREA, WHERE WOULD THESE AREAS FLOOD? AND THAT HELPS TO INFORM SOME OF OUR POLICY DECISIONS ON WHERE WE, UM, CONTROL GROWTH AND WHERE WE CONTROL SETBACKS.
BECAUSE IF WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE IN HARM'S WAY, AT THE LEAST WE CAN INFORM THEM YOU ARE AT FLOOD RISK UNDER THESE CONDITIONS.
SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UH, THIS IS A FUNKY ORIENTATION TO TRY AND GET IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER ON, ON THE, UH, ON THE SCREEN.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE MAY RIVER IS ACTUALLY OVER TO YOUR LEFT HAND SIDE.
SO IF IT WERE SPUN, IT WOULD BE THE NORTH ARROW IS, YOU CAN SEE POINTING TO THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER.
THIS IS THE AREA THAT WAS ASSESSED, UM, BY THE CONSULTANTS.
AND YOU CAN SEE WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WITH TOWN HALL.
WE'RE COMING ALL THE WAY UP INTO THE LIBRARY AREA.
IT'S A, IT'S A BIG AREA THAT WAS, THAT WAS UNDERTAKEN AND OUT OF THAT, THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT.
THIS IS WHY IT'S GREAT FOLKS CAN ACCESS THIS ONLINE BECAUSE THESE POINTS ARE WAY TOO LITTLE.
UH, BUT WHAT THIS SHOWED US IS OUR STORMWATER ASSET OWNERSHIP MAP.
AND WHAT WE'RE POINTING OUT IS WHAT'S COUNTY, WHAT'S PRIVATE, WHAT'S D O T, WHAT'S TOWN OF BLUFFTON, WHAT'S THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, AND PROPERTY PARCELS.
AND THE BLUE LINE IS AGAIN, THE SCOPE, THE GEOGRAPHIC SCOPE OF THE HAYWARD COVE LIMIT.
SO THIS HELPS US AGAIN SAY WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT.
FROM THIS WE CAN START TO YOU THROUGH THE ASSET ASSESSMENT PORTION OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT, WHAT POTENTIAL C I P PROJECTS COULD BE COMING OUT OF IT.
AND AGAIN, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE? SO FOR INSTANCE, NEW CULVERTS, NEW PIPES, EASEMENTS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE ACQUIRED.
UH, WHERE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON JURISDICTION IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND.
AND AGAIN, WHO WOULD OWN THAT POTENTIAL CAPITAL PROJECT IMPROVEMENT.
UM, THIS IS SHOWING YOU SOME OF THE, THE H AND H MODEL OUTPUTS OF IF THIS PIPE IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, THIS IS HOW THE, THE STORM MOVES THROUGH IT.
THIS IS HOW IT PASSES THE WATER.
JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT OUTPUT LOOKS LIKE.
MA'AM, IS THIS JUST DONE KIND OF AT A HIGH LEVEL OR DO YOU GO OUT FROM IT ON THIS SEGMENT AND LOOK AND SEE IF THE CULVERTS ARE BLOCKED OR THERE WERE SIGHT ASSESSMENTS.
EYES, BOOTS ON THE GROUND, EYES AND DITCHES, EYES LOOKING IN PIPES.
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REAL DATA PIECES THAT YOU COULD DO CAUSE OF A BLOCKED CULVERT UNDER DRIVEWAY.AND THAT FEEDS INTO THE, THE EASY FIXES, THE MAINTENANCE.
AND SAME IDEA, UM, WHAT, WHAT WAS SEEN STANDING WATER AND SEDIMENT ACTION CLEAN.
IT'S THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PRIORITY.
SOMETHING THAT LITTLE, BUT DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS.
AND THAT GUY'S DOWN IN THIS AREA RIGHT IN HERE, WHICH IS REALLY CONGESTED WITH A LOT OF NODES COMING TO IT.
THESE ARE REGULAR MAINTENANCE.
THIS INFORMATION WE CAN FEED TO OUR PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY, D O T AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SO THAT THEY CAN START WORKING IT INTO THEIR OPERATING BUDGETS AND POTENTIAL CAPITAL BUDGETS AS WELL.
YOU ALSO FEED THAT TO THE POAS CAUSE YOU HAVE LAKE LINDON IN THERE.
SO MY QUESTION, UM, TO YOU WAS, I'M VERY IMPRESSED AND GLAD THAT WE, UM, ARE TAKING LIKE THIS, UM, THIS PREEMPTIVE APPROACH IN ADDRESSING THIS, THESE ISSUES WHILE BLUFFTON IS DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
UM, WHAT DO YOU, UM, ANTICIPATE IN TERMS OF YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH D O T TO ENSURE THAT AS WE'RE DOING ALL THIS WORK, THAT THERE'S LIKE A, A FLOW THERE, UM, THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE COMPLIMENTING WHAT WE'RE DOING? PERHAPS I'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND HOW COUNCIL CAN SUPPORT STAFF IN GETTING THAT PRIORITIZED AT A D O T LEVEL BECAUSE IT VERY WELL MAY TAKE THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE I KNOW LIMITED RESOURCES TOO, YOU KNOW.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE AREAS IN PARTICULAR THAT THEY HAVE, UM, RESPONSIBILITY OVER MAINTAINING ARE SOME OF THE FIRST TO SUFFER FROM THE FLOODING WHEN WE HAVE EXTREME CONDITIONS.
AND IT'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS A NIGHTMARE WITH THAT.
AND SO I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE, AS WE'RE DOING OUR WORK HERE AND GETTING THINGS SITUATED THAT THEY DROP THE BALL IN AND THAT KIND OF GOES FOR NOTHING AND OUR RESIDENTS ARE STILL KIND OF STUCK WITH MM-HMM.
BUT AGAIN, I, THAT JUST OPENS UP A ANOTHER QUESTION IS, UM, WHAT IS THE COUNTY DOING? ARE THEY DOING THE SAME THINGS WE'RE DOING OR, OR THERE HAVE BEEN, OR, AND THEY HAVE BEEN AT A HIGHER LEVEL, THIS IS INFORMATION AT THE LEAST WE CAN FEED TO THEM AND GET, SO THAT IF THEY'RE NOT DOING AS DETAILED AN ASSESSMENT AND ANALYSIS AS WE ARE, WE'RE DOING THE WORK FOR THEM AND PROVIDING IT TO THEM WHERE THEY DO HAVE CREWS TO SCHEDULE IT.
WE'RE KIND OF IN A DIFFERENT POSITION.
WE'VE GOT THIS PART OF IT, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE GOT DEREK, SO WE'LL HAVE TO OUTSOURCE PROBABLY A LOT OF THIS MAINTENANCE IN AND ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AN UPGRADE.
SO, AND OR WE CAN HIRE THE COUNTY.
SOMETIMES WE CAN THROUGH OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT ON MS FOUR.
BRIDGET POINT IS, I MEAN, IT'S SPOT ON.
THERE'S ONLY SO FAR WE CAN GO.
TAKING THE LEADERSHIP IS IMPORTANT FOR US, BUT BECAUSE I MEAN, WE ALREADY SEEN FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, THE COUNTY IS NOT DOING ANYTHING.
THE STATE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING.
BUT OUR, UM, LEADERSHIP MIGHT HELP BRING THEM TO THAT, UM, COMPROMISE WHERE WE DO, WHERE WE DO SOME OF IT TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY IF NOW THAT THE TOWN IS WILLING TO DO THIS YEAR AND ABOVE.
AND I, I THINK IN SOME OF THE RESTRUCTURING THAT THEY'VE HAD AT THE COUNTY AS WELL, UH, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THEIR CAPITAL, AND I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITHIN THEIR PUBLIC WORKS AND STORMWATERS DIVISIONS AND DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'VE GOT GREAT STAFF RELATIONSHIPS THERE TO, TO CAPITALIZE ON.
AND IF WE HIT A ROADBLOCK AGAIN, WE WILL COME TO YOU FOR ASSISTANCE.
I I HAVE ANOTHER, UM, UH, QUESTION OR COMMENT, KIM.
UM, AND HEATHER CAN WEIGH IN WAY TOO IF, UM, SHE LIKE, SO AS WE'RE DOING THE ASSESSMENTS, UM, OR YOU ALL DOING YOUR ASSESSMENT, ANOTHER CONSIDERATION, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GIVEN THAT, UM, I KNOW A LOT OF RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY ALONG THE, UH, BUCK ALLEY AND SMITHVILLE AREA HAVE NOTED THAT WHEN, UM, SOMEONE IS DEVELOPING PROPERTY, PARTICULARLY LIKE THEY'RE GONNA BE ADDING MULTIPLE UNITS TO UH, UM, ONE PROPERTY, SOMETIMES THE WAY THAT THEY'RE BUILDING OR ADDING DIRT TO THOSE PROPERTIES ARE INTENTIONALLY DONE SO THAT WATER NO LONGER STAYS ON THEIR PROPERTY AND IT'S PUSHING IT TO THE, UM, TO THOSE OTHER FACING PROPERTY.
RIGHT? AND SO WHERE, OR ORDINARILY IT'S ALREADY AN ISSUE WITH THE STORM, IT'S NOW COMPOUNDING BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING WHAT THEY NORMALLY WOULD GET AND ALL OF THAT RUNOFF FROM THERE.
HOW DO WE, UM, INTERVENE TO ASSURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN? BECAUSE I REMEMBER AN INSTANCE FROM LAST YEAR, AND I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE HURRICANE HUGO
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ALL OVER AGAIN IN, IN SOMEONE'S YARD BECAUSE OF THAT.SO AT THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT SCALE, WE CAN, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MASS GRADING, IT'S HARDER ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REVIEWED THAT.
AND PART OF THAT IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL IN GENERAL, THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ON IT.
SO IT'S MOSTLY CONTROLLED THROUGH JUST PERMITTING THROUGH GROWTH MANAGEMENT, WHERE STORMWATER DOESN'T EVEN LAY EYES ON IT.
UH, IT'S USUALLY DISTURBING SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT OF AREA THAT AT THE, AT THE REGULATORY STATE LEVEL, WE'RE NOT EVEN REQUIRED TO LAY EYES ON IT.
UM, AND IT WAS THIS DISCUSSION WE HAD AT THE BUCK ISLAND SIMMONS BILL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY MEETING.
THE, THE INITIAL OUTSET, ONE OF DRAINAGE AND ARE WE REVIEWING PROJECTS? YES, WE REVIEW PROJECTS, BUT WHEN SOMEBODY IS PUTTING 2, 3, 4 MOBILE HOMES ON A LOT, WHICH THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BY ZONING, STORMWATER'S NOT REVIEWING THAT.
UH, AND SO I GUESS THE, THE WAY WE COULD DO THAT IS A PROCESS CHANGE AND WE LAY HANDS ON IT AND WE LOOK AT IT, BUT THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER REGULATORY LEVEL AND BURDEN FOR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE WANT TO EXEMPT FROM THAT LEVEL OF, OF GOVERNMENT INVOLVED IN IT.
I THINK FOR THOSE WHO ARE BEING IMPACTED, IT WOULD BE WORTH LOOKING INTO BECAUSE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE NATIVES IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS WHO ARE THE ONES THAT ARE, WHO ARE COMPILING TO THE PROBLEM.
AND THERE'S ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY WHERE OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE MOBILE HOMES MIGHT NOT TRIGGER IT, BUT THESE ARE PROPERTIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE PURCHASING IN COLLECTION AND IT'S NOW LIKE EIGHT, YOU KNOW, MOBILE HOMES OR LIKE 10, YOU KNOW, SUB SUBDIVISION WHILE THEY'RE GOING ON IT.
AND SO THAT IS, AND SO IF YOU'RE DOING THAT AND YOU'RE PUSHING YOU, YOU'RE BUILDING YOUR PROPERTY INTENTIONALLY TO HAVE ALL OF THAT RUN BACK OFF TO SOMEONE WHO'S BY YOU JUST ONE HOME, IT'S A HUGE, HUGE PROBLEM.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT JUST TWO ROADS.
I MEAN, IT'S THE 8% THAT'S NOT UNDER A PUT OR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MM-HMM.
SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD HOMEWORK FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.
AND IF IT WORKED, LET'S SPREAD IT OUT BEYOND THOSE TWO ROADS.
AND THAT'S LIKE KIM, THERE'S A LOT THERE.
THE WAY WE DEFINE WHAT'S CONSIDERED DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT'S FOR HOMES ON ONE PARCEL, IT'S, IT'S EXPLICITLY EXEMPT FROM THOSE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS.
SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT, LIKE SHE SAID, ON A WHAT CONSTITUTES QUOTE UNQUOTE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN TRIGGERS ADDITIONAL REVIEWS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO ADDRESS IT, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT ISSUE OF KIND OF THAT, THAT STAFFED APPROACH WHERE IT'S ONE HOME MAY BE OKAY, BUT THEN TWO AND THEN THREE, AND THEN FOUR.
AND HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT RIGHT.
SO WE DEFINITELY ACKNOWLEDGE IT EVERY HOME SOLUTIONS ALL THE TIME.
I I THOUGHT THAT WAS TRUE EVERYWHERE.
YOU GOTTA KEEP YOUR RAINWATER ON YOUR LOT.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS BECAUSE EONS AGO SOMEBODY DEVELOPED SOME KIND OF PLAN THAT SAID THAT, BUT THE HOMEOWNER OR THIS PERSON WHO'S COMING IN TO DEVELOP IT NEEDS KEEP HIS WATER ON HIS OWN LOT.
SO, UM, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING HERE, IT'S, IT'S PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AFFECTING THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO ARE DEALING WITH MM-HMM.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THAT? WHICH ONE? SO YOU SHOWED US THIS AND I READ IT ALL WHILE YOU WERE ASKING QUESTIONS.
IS THIS A, AN ACTION ITEM FOR US TO START WORKING ON? YES.
IT IS RIGHT NOW THIS DAN'S DOING AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR FINAL REVIEW OF THE FINAL REPORT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN HAND, BUT WE'RE THIS CLOSE AND ONCE IT'S FINALIZED, WE'LL START SHOOTING IT OUT TO ALL OF OUR PARTNERS.
AND IS THIS JUST A SNIPPET OF THE WHOLE HAYWARD COVE AREA? YES.
JUST TELL ME WHERE, WHERE THIS IS JUST OUT OF C I MEAN, I THINK I READ BURN CHURCH SOMEWHERE.
THAT'S BREWING ROAD IS THE ONE RUNNING NORTH KIND OF UP AND DOWN IN THERE.
BUT WHERE ARE WE ON BREWING ROAD? LIKE WHERE GIVE GIMME SOMETHING.
IS THAT LIKE, IS THAT, THAT'S TABBY SHELL, THAT'S PRITCHARD STREET ON THE TOP THAT'S RUNNING TOWARDS TOWN HALL.
TOWN HALL IS, IF YOU GO LEFT, THAT'S, THAT'S INTERSECTION OF PRITCHARD AND BRUIN ROAD RIGHT THERE.
ARE YOU USING THE ARROW? SHE IS.
WHAT IS THAT RIGHT THERE? THAT'S PRITCHARD AND BRUIN.
THAT'S THE END OF THE ROAD IF YOU WERE TO
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GO OUT TOWARDS, UH, SO'S COURT.ATKINS, THE OLD REDFISH RIGHT HERE.
AND WHAT'S THE ONE LEFT? WHAT'S GOING RIGHT THERE TO THE LEFT? IS THAT PRICHARD? YES.
IS THAT WHAT YES, STEVEN SAID.
POOL, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF POOL'S.
YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE.
DAN HELD THEM TO, HE WAS A TASKMASTER AND GOT THE BEST PRODUCT FOR US.
THIS IS WHERE I THINK, ESPECIALLY IN JUST HAVING THE DISCUSSION WE DID ABOUT LAND DISTURBANCE AND WHAT THE MODELS WILL TELL US THAT WE'RE SEEING IN CURRENT CONDITIONS, UM, AND THEN IN FUTURE CONDITIONS.
SO LET ME EXPLAIN THIS ONE RIGHT QUICK.
THE EXISTING CONDITIONS IS IN A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT, WHAT IS CURRENTLY FLOODING WITH THE ASSETS THAT THEY ARE IN THEIR CURRENT STATE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU GO THROUGH AND IN THE MODEL, YOU CLEAN ALL THOSE ASSETS UP, RIGHT? THEY GET BLOWN OUT, THEY GET REPLACED, ALL OF THAT KIND OF KIND OF THING.
THE PROPOSED CONDITION IS GONNA PULL THE RED FLOODING JUST DOWN INTO THE BLUE.
AND WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK BACK TO, LET'S SAY BACK HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT ACTUALLY MIMICS WHAT IS EXISTING AS BUFFERS AN UNDEVELOPED AREA, WHICH IS WHERE YOU WANT YOUR FLOODING, RIGHT? YOU WANT IT AWAY FROM YOUR BUILDINGS.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST GIVING US SOME CONFIRMATION OF WHAT, WHAT SOME OF THESE PRIORITY MAINTENANCE AREAS ARE AND OR C I P PROJECTS ARE.
THEY'RE THE RED, RIGHT? SO THAT IS, ASSUME WE DO ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS.
OUR PARTNERS DO ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS AND SUDDENLY TH THIS BECOMES THE, THE PROPOSED CONDITION IS THE CURRENT CONDITION.
SO WE'RE CARRYING ALL THAT WORK FORWARD AND NOW WE'RE PROJECTING FORWARD.
SO ANOTHER A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT, SAME IDEA, BUT NOW WE'RE PUTTING TWO FEET OF SEA LEVEL RISE ON THE BACK END OF IT AND A MORE INTENSE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT.
WE KNOW OUR RAIN IS NOT THE SAME TODAY AS IT WAS EVEN 15, 20 YEARS AGO.
AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO CONTINUE.
SO THIS IS A, A HEAVIER, UM, A STORM EVENT THAT WILL BECOME THE NEW NORM FOR US.
WHAT THIS TELLS US IS THE BLUE IS WE DID ALL THE WORK WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.
THAT'S WHAT'S FLOODING WHEN WE HAVE SEA LEVEL RISE AND MORE INTENSE RAINSTORMS, THE RESILIENCY CONDITION IS NOW IN RED.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS IN THOSE RED AREAS IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE PUTTING WARNINGS OUT.
EITHER YOU SHOULDN'T BE DEVELOPING HERE OR WE NEED MORE RESTRICTIONS IN THIS AREA, A HIGHER ELEVATION.
IT'S BEGINNING TO IDENTIFY THOSE MOST VULNERABLE AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THESE DRAINAGE AREAS THAT WE KNOW, UM, WILL BE IMPACTED IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO THAT THIS IS WHAT BEGINS TO INFORM WHAT POLICY DECISIONS WE WANT TO MAKE MOVING FORWARD IN A RESILIENCY SITUATION.
I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF STRANGE, MOVING FROM RED TO BLUE AND THEN BLUE TO RED.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? HOW SORT OF THAT INFORMATION'S FLOWING FORWARD? MM-HMM.
SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THIS? WE'RE GONNA DO THIS AREA.
THIS IS OUR PROPOSED F Y 24 STUDY AREA, WHICH INCLUDES CROOKED COVE, GERARD COVE, AND MOST OF VERDE COVE.
SO WE'RE PICKING UP BLUFFTON PARK, WHICH WE KNOW HAS FLOODING CONDITIONS AS WELL.
AND THEN HERE'S BUCK ISLAND ROAD COMING UP TO WELLSTONE AND THEN COMING OVER TOWARD CAHILL AND CROOKED CO.
CROOKED COVE IS THROUGH CAHILLS.
SO THIS DRAINS, THIS AREA DRAINS FROM WEST TO EAST AND EVENTUALLY WORKS ITS WAY DOWN THROUGH CROOK, CROOKED COVE BY CAHILLS.
IT'LL ALSO PULL UP, THIS IS GETTING CLOSE TO THE KITTY LANE AREA AND UM, PULLING IN THERE.
SO IT'S THAT SOUTHERN HALF OF BUCK ISLAND ROAD AND MOVING OVER THROUGH THE CEMETERY AND THEN ALSO INTO BLUFFTON PARK.
WHAT'S GERARD EVER HEARD OF THAT? YOU KNOW, IT'S UM, IT'S JUST ON THE MAPS.
UM, SO THAT'S UM, IT'S THE INTERNAL AROUND.
YEAH, IT'S ALMOST, IT'S ALMOST MORE LIKE A BAY, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AREA.
IT'S LIKE THAT'S WHERE THE CEMETERIES ARE.
UH, SO WE'RE TALKING UM, BUCK ISLAND, DOE ISLAND, THOSE AREAS.
BUCK POINT THIS, THIS WOULD BE BUCK POINT ROAD JUST TO GIVE YOU A GEOGRAPHIC BEARING.
AND DOES THAT PICK UP GOTHE SCHULTZ AS
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WELL OR IS THAT JUST WEST OF GOTHE? SCHULTZ WEST.IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT WEST OF THAT.
NOW DAN IS WORKING ON ANOTHER DRAINAGE, UM, PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
LOOKING AT SCHULTZ CURRENTLY THAT ONE WILL BE GOOD CUZ YOU HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATELY OWNED COMMUNITIES IN THERE AND YOU CAN GO GIVE THE TO-DO LIST TO THEM.
I MEAN I'VE LIVED IN THAT LITTLE WORLD, SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR TO-DOS WILL BE.
SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITH THIS, AS I SAID, THIS IS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, DAN'S MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.
HE'S SCOPING IT OUT RIGHT NOW WITH THE SAME CONSULTANT WE HAVE ON A MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT THAT DID THE HAYWARD COBE STUDY FOR US.
SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT GOING BACK TO THE, THE STARTING POINT.
OUR CONSULTANT HAS MOVING FORWARD.
SO WE RECEIVED THE PROPOSAL AND THE COST ESTIMATE, ASSUMING THEN AT THAT POINT IT WILL BE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR AROUND THERE COMING FORWARD WITH THE COUNCIL APPROVAL OF IT AND, AND GETTING GOING.
AND HE'S WORKING ON SCOPING THAT OUT RIGHT NOW AND GETTING THE PROPOSALS.
I LOVE, UM, THERE'S SO MUCH KIM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ORDINARILY IT'S, UM, GOVERNMENT IS LIKE REACTIVE TO IMPLEMENTING POLICY AND TO THE WAY THAT YOU ALL ARE MITIGATING HERE.
THAT POLICY IS GONNA BE USED TO DICTATE FUTURE NEEDS.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT AND THE, UM, IDENTIFYING THE AREAS IN THE RED YEAH.
FROM THIS, FROM THAT, UH, PARTICULAR SIDE IN KNOWING THAT HEY, WE CAN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE DEVELOPMENT HERE BECAUSE IT IS VULNERABLE ALREADY IN THAT, THAT FLOOD AREA.
I, UM, JUST WOULD SAY KUDOS TO YOU AND, AND DAN AND WHOEVER ELSE HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT.
AND IF, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT EVEN BEING UTILIZED IN OTHER AREAS, LIKE HOW CAN WE GET AHEAD OF, IN INSTANCES LIKE THIS WHERE POLICY CAN KIND OF HELP TO CURB SOME OF THE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE GONNA FORESEE AND NOT WAIT FOR IT TO BE AN EMERGENCY FOR US TO REACT.
SO THE VISION IS, AND JUST BECAUSE OF THE COST, IT'S, IT'S STAGGERED CLEARLY THROUGH THE FISCAL YEARS IS TO HIT THE ENTIRE ENTIRE TOWN JURISDICTION AND DO THESE ASSESSMENTS.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT SOLO LOCO PRESENTATION.
NOT TO PULL YOU OUTTA YOUR OFFICE, BUT LET'S GET STARTED ON THE FIRST ONE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
I WANNA GO BACK TO, TO AFTER MATTHEW, OUR TOWN MANAGER AND BRIAN VOY AND ME, BECAUSE I GET THE CALL ABOUT THE FLOODING AT A COMMUNITY.
MM-HMM
BUT WALKING AROUND THAT ROAD WE FOUND JUST WHAT YOU DID.
LIKE IF YOU WOULD JUST NOT LET YOUR GRASS GROW OVER YOUR CULVERT, IT WOULD BE, YOU WOULD, THE WATER DOES, THAT'S A PURPOSE FOR IT.
SO I LOVE IT AND I WOULD LOVE IT TO COME, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT COULD BE MONTHS FROM NOW.
IT SO LOCO, BUT IT'D BE A GOOD WAY.
WELL WE HAD, WE HAD DISCUSSED, UM, OH MY GOSH, IT'S SLIPPING MY MIND WHY WE HAD DISCUSSED SOMETHING ELSE THAT NEEDED TO GO TO SO LOCO THAT WAS STORM STORMWATER RELATED.
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT RE LOOKING AT THE STORMWATER PLAN, BUT WE'RE HOLDING OFF ON THAT BUT WE'RE DOING ZONING RIGHT NOW.
BUT CUZ YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT TWEAKING THE STORMWATER REGIONAL STORMWATER PLAN, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY WE'D LOVE TO.
SO I, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS, UM, AND EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT RESILIENCY BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES IN CLIMATE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PARIS ISLAND AND EVERYBODY ELSE, IT'S A BIG, IT'S A BIG THING.
UM, CITY OF BUFORT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS AND THESE A HUNDRED YEAR EVENTS TO BE MORE FREQUENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FREQUENCY IS TODAY, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE IT USED TO BE 10, 20 YEARS AGO.
UM, BUT I GUESS WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR STUDIES IN, THEN YOU'LL, YOU'LL PUT THE DOLLARS TO ALL OF THIS BECAUSE WHAT I'M THINKING IN MY MIND STUDY THAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY, THAT WAS 400 SOMETHING THOUSAND YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT IN DETAIL TO, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THE IMPERVIOUS SERVICES.
MM-HMM
AND THAT'S IN TODAY'S DOLLARS THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
UM, AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THIS, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS WHEN THOSE NUMBERS STACK
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ON TOP OF THOSE NUMBERS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.UH, WE'VE GOT SOME MAJOR CHALLENGES AHEAD OF US IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK THE ONE REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY THAT COMES OUT OF THOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPENSIVE, IS THAT THIS BEGINS TO GIVE US THE BACKBONE WE NEED TO START GOING AFTER RESILIENCY GRANTS.
AND SO AS DAN'S WORKING ON THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RESTORATION PROJECTS THAT, THAT COUNCILMAN WOOD JUST REFERENCED SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE LOOKING IN THE HEADWATERS, RIGHT? LOOKING MORE FOR WATER QUALITY REGARDLESS IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE KEEPING THAT WATER ON SITE AND GETTING IT BACK IN THE GROUND AND IT'S NOT RUNNING OFF, YOU'RE HELPING WATER QUALITY BUT POTENTIALLY ALSO HELPING WATER QUANTITY, WHICH IS FLOOD REDUCTION.
SO WHEN WE START RUNNING THESE H AND H MODELS, WHICH ACTUALLY A LOT OF THESE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREAS HAVE HAD THE MODELING DONE ON THEM.
A A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT, LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT RECIPE FOR DOING A MODEL.
THAT'S WHAT PUT THESE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREAS OUT THERE AT THE FOREFRONT FOR RESTORATION.
SO IF WE CAN, UM, TIE THESE TOGETHER AND THEN ALSO NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS AND GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE FOR THESE TYPE OF BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES PROJECTS THAT WILL HELP.
AND ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN COUCH IT IN RESILIENCY, WE'RE JUST STARTING, UM, SINCE IT'S THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO SEE GRANT ALREADY TO HELP GET THAT, UM, RESILIENCY PLAN AND STUDY AND ASSESSMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
WE WILL HAVE AN OVERALL REALLY, I THINK, UM, APPEALING PACKAGE AND STORY TO, TO HELP US GET GRANTS.
WELL THIS, UM, WE'RE HAVING A NATIONAL ISSUE WITH INSURANCE.
EVERYWHERE ACTUALLY EVERYWHERE.
UM, ALL INSURANCE EVERY COAST DON'T IS GOING UP.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE ANYMORE BASICALLY WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
AND UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT ALL OF THIS HAS BEARING WITH THAT POTENTIALLY.
UM, IT WAS ONE THING THAT WAS MENTIONED IN OUR BOND RATING, RIGHT? WAS WHAT ABOUT RESILIENCY? THESE INITIATIVES HELP TO SHOW WE ARE FUTURE PLANNING AND THINKING.
WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA FACE AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS IT? GOOD JOB.
SO YOU'RE JUST GIVING US AS AN UPDATE JUST JUST FOR INFORMATION.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IS THIS GONNA BE, I DIDN'T OPEN MY PACKET TO THIS CUZ I KNEW WE DIDN'T GET THIS.
DO WE HAVE THIS PRESENTATION? UM, I THINK SO, YEAH.
AND, AND OF COURSE IT'LL BE ONLINE WITH THE MINUTES AND EVERYTHING TOO.
IT'S NOT HYPERLINKED RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND I'LL SAY ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TONIGHT WAS TO GET YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE, BUT ALSO IN THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD AND SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'VE SEEN IS WE WANTED TO PRIORITIZE THAT CROOKED CREEK IN THE SOUTH OF BUCK ISLAND AS OUR NEXT TARGET AREA.
CUZ WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH HOW WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THAT DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE.
AND WE'RE ALLOWED TO GO HANDS ON IN AREAS THAT AREN'T IN THE TOWN.
HOW ARE WE GONNA GO DO A VISUAL OF A LOT OF THAT? OH, WE JUST GET PERMISSION.
YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING.
SO, BUT YES, WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW AND LET THE CITIZENS KNOW.
WE'VE HEARD THEM AND WE'VE SEEN THEM AND THIS IS OUR PLAN FOR HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO ADDRESS IT HERE, HELP YOU IN ALL THINGS ENVIRONMENT.
SO LET'S REALLY LISTEN TO THEM, UM, WHERE WE ARE.
I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE GOOD ADVICE ON YOUR MEETINGS WITH THE
WE HAVE BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS WHERE YOU CAN PARTICIPATE.
SEE WHY I HAVE TO GIVE THE COMMERCIAL OUT.
YOU GUYS CAME FOR ONE AGENDA ITEM AND YOU STAYED THROUGH THE WHOLE MEETING.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
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WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FOOD TODAY? THE FOOD HAS BEEN A GREAT PART OF OUR LIFE IN TERMS OF GATHERING FOOD AND PREPARING THEM.
OUR FOOD IS BASED ON THE LAND AND THE SEA.
THE LAND FOOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN RICE.
WE DON'T FEEL WE HAVE EATEN DINNER UNLESS WE'VE HAD RICE.
RICE WAS MIXED WITH VARIOUS ITEMS FROM THE SEA, LIKE OYSTERS OR SHRIMP.
AND WHEN THEY COOKED WITH RICE IN ONE POT, WE CALL IT A RICE OR SHRIMP OR AN OYSTER PERLO.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE WATERMELONS AND THE SWEET POTATOES.
SWEET POTATOES WAS ALWAYS EATEN WITH FISH AND FRESH FISH WITH GRAVY AND A SWEET POTATO.
OKRA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR FOOD WAYS WE, WE, WE RAISE THEM AS WELL AS WE PREPARE THEM WITH SHRIMP AND TOMATOES.
AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD CALL THAT A GUMBO.
AND THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
AND SO ENJOY THE FOOD OF THE LOW COUNTRY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN VERY MUCH A PART OF OUR HISTORY.
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