[I. Call to Order]
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IF WE CAN START OUR REGULAR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
IT'S 5:00 PM ALL OF COUNCIL IS AT THE DIOCESE.
WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE AND WE'LL FOLLOW IT.
UM, WE'LL START WITH PLEDGE AND FOLLOWED IT BY THE INVOCATION.
FATHER, FATHER, WE COME DOWN PAUSING TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY AND YOUR WISDOM.
FATHER, THAT WE MAY CONDUCT THIS MEETING THAT IS FRUITFUL AND MEANINGFUL TO ALL THAT ARE PRESENT.
FATHER, ASK FOR YOUR PEACE AND WE ASK FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING ON HOW TO LOVE AND SERVE OUR PEOPLE USING IN ALL OTHER BLESSING.
WE HAVE THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
[IV. Adoption of the Agenda]
THERE ANY CHANGES? NO MA'AM.[VI. Adoption of the Minutes]
THE AGENDA? IS THERE SECOND? SECOND.ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATEMENT, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? UM, THAT IS UNANIMOUS.
[V. Civility Pledge]
CIVILITY PLEDGE THAT WE ADOPTED THROUGH OUR MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION OF SOUTH CAROLINA.SO IF Y'ALL LIKE TO READ IT WITH ME, YOU MAY PLEDGE TO BUILD A STRONGER AND MORE PROSPEROUS COMMUNITY BY ADVOCATING FOR CIVIL, ENGAGE, ENGAGEMENT, RESPECT, RESPECTING OTHERS AND VIEWPOINT AND, AND FINDING SOLUTIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THEM.
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE WHO MOVED? SECOND SESSION.
ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
[VII. Presentations, Celebrations and Recognitions]
Y'ALL WILL ALLOW ME.I'M GONNA DO THE STUDENT IN A MONTH CAUSE I THINK SHE JUST POPPED IN BEFORE WE HAVE, UM, THE LEGISLATIVE PUBLICATION.
SO IF WE CAN GET NEELY UP HERE.
NO, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO ALL THE TALK.
NEELY NEELY IS A THIRD GRADER AT PRITCHARD.
ARE THESE, ARE YOU THE OLDEST? NO, THERE'S ONE MORE.
CAUSE YOU WERE GONNA HAVE TO TALK.
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE, UM, NOT REGULARS, WE REALLY CELEBRATE THE STUDENT OF THE MONTH CHARACTER, UM, TRAITS OF THE MONTH.
THEY ARE DONE THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE DO NOT GOVERN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE ONLY HOPE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF OUR STUDENTS IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
YOU ARE ONE STUDENT OUT OF, OUT OF ABOUT 13,000 IN OUR CLUSTER ALONE, THAT GETS SUBMITTED FOR EACH MONTH FOR CHARACTER TRAIT.
SO FOR THE TRAIT OF RESPONSIBILITY AND COOPERATION, YOU WERE CHOSEN OUT OF ALL THE SCHOOLS IN BLUFFTON, AND THEN WE GO TO BUFORD, THEY HAVE SOMEBODY, HILTON HEAD, THEY HAVE SOMEBODY.
SO I'M GONNA ASK THE TEACHER IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT NEELY AND WHY SHE WON THIS.
I WAS RUNNING IN, UM, IT GOT, IT GOT REALLY BACKED UP BACK THERE.
I'VE BEEN TEACHING FOR 17 YEARS.
SHE'S FINISHED UP MY 17TH YEAR.
AND I WENT BACK INTO THE CLASSROOM AS A HOMEROOM TEACHER.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST YEARS I'VE EVER HAD A THIRD GRADER WHO WOULD BE ABSENT FOR A DAY, COME BACK IN AND DO ALL THE WORK THAT SHE MISSED.
NEVER ASKED, NEVER SAID, WHAT DID I MISS? YOU KNOW, DO I HAVE TO DO ANYTHING? MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE JUST HAPPY TO BE IN SCHOOL, MUCH LESS TAKING ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY OF DOING THE EXTRA WORK OR EVEN ASKING.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STUCK OUT TO ME IS RESPONSIBILITY.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SHE IS A GREAT HELPER.
JUST KNOWING THAT AS A THIRD GRADER AND EIGHT, NINE YEAR OLD COMING IN AND JUST DOING THE WORK WITHOUT EVEN BEING ASKED, GOING BACK AND DOING MISSING WORK.
AND I, I WAS BLOWN AWAY BY THAT.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY, THAT I WROTE ABOUT.
IF I KNEW, I KNOW HOW RESPONSIBLE SHE IS.
THE BAR IS HIGH FOR THESE TWO.
OKAY, PICTURE, LET'S ALL GET TOGETHER.
WE HAVE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON COINS
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AND THE TON POLICE DEPARTMENT CHALLENGE COIN.THESE DON'T GET GIVEN OUT TO VERY MANY PEOPLE.
REALLY, REALLY ONLY OUR STUDENTS THAT WIN THIS.
SO THIS CAME FROM OUR CHIEF, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
OUR SENATOR FOR SOUTH FOR OUR AREA.
SO YOU HAVE A GREAT, GREAT TIME.
AND YOU CAN HOLD THIS AND WE'LL GET A PICTURE.
CONGRATULATIONS WHILE I'M WALKING UP HERE, WE ALSO HAVE A STUDENT COUNSEL TO KNOW YOU'LL STAND UP.
UM, SPENCER IS WORKING AND IT'S, UM, BUT CIVIL CITIZENS.
SO, UM, HE'S HERE TO EARN THAT.
DON'T NEED US TO SIGN ANYTHING.
JUST MAKE SURE MARSHALL HAS IT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE SIGN ANYTHING.
[1. 2023 Legislation Session Update - Senator Tom Davis]
UM, A LEGISLATION SESSION COME FOR A FEW MINUTES.JUST GIVE US, ALWAYS GIVE US A LITTLE HEADS UP AND WE'LL GET YOU ON THE AGENDA.
SO YOU'RE, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
MAY I PASS OUT SOME MATERIALS? THANK YOU.
THANK TO HAVE YOU, SENATOR DAVIS.
UM, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UM, WE DID FINISH UP OUR SESSION.
UM, IF YOU'LL RECALL, A FEW MONTHS AGO I OUTLINED FOR YOU SOME THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE WORKING ON DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
SO I WANT TO KIND OF BOOKEND THAT WITH WHAT WE ACTUALLY GOT ACCOMPLISHED AND MAYBE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DIDN'T GET ACCOMPLISHED AND WHAT I HOPE TO GET DONE NEXT YEAR.
BUT WHAT I PASSED OUT TO YOU INITIALLY IS, UM, A LIST OF THE DIRECT APPROPRIATIONS THAT WERE MADE IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET TO THINGS IN BEAUFORT AND JASPER COUNTIES.
AND THE WAY WE BUDGET, UM, UH, IS WE GO AHEAD AND WE FUND TAX RELIEF FIRST.
UM, WE THEN GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THE CAPITAL RESERVE AND GENERAL RESERVE ACCOUNTS ARE, ARE FUNDED, THE RAINY DAY FUNDS, AND WE FUND CORE SERVICES.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS MONEY LEFT ASIDE FOR APPROPRIATING OUT FOR LOCAL PROJECTS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE EITHER SIT ON THE SIDELINE AND DO NOTHING ABOUT IT AND COMPLAIN ON PHILOSOPHICAL GROUNDS OR ONCE THAT AMOUNT IS DETERMINED, WE GET IN THERE AS A DELEGATION AND DO THE BEST WE CAN TO MAKE SURE OUR AREA IS TREATED FAIRLY.
AND SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE APPROPRIATIONS THAT OUR DELEGATION WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN THIS YEAR.
UM, AND CONTRAST IT WITH, QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN I FIRST TOOK OFFICE IN 2009, WE HAD ABOUT FIVE OR $600,000 WORTH OF THESE SORTS OF APPROPRIATIONS.
UM, THIS YEAR WE HAD $36 MILLION THAT WE GOT.
AND, AND THAT IS PRIMARILY A FUNCTION OF BILL HERB URMAN IS VICE CHAIRMAN OF HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS I SERVE ON SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
WESTON NEWTON IS CHAIRMAN OF HEALTH JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
SHARON ERICKSON IS CHAIRMAN OF THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE.
NOBODY HAS MORE COMMITTEE CHAIRMANSHIPS THAN BEAUFORT COUNTY DOES.
AND SO WHILE THE LAST 10 YEARS WE'RE REALLY, I WOULD CALL CHARLESTON AREA YEARS, UM, UH, WITH, WITH UH, COL, I MEAN, UM, BERKELEY, DORCHESTER AND CHARLESTON COUNTY'S GOT A LOT OF THE MONEY.
10 YEARS PRIOR TO THAT IT WAS GREENVILLE SPARTANBURG CORRIDOR.
THE NEXT 10 YEARS I FIRMLY BELIEVE ARE GOING TO BE BEAUFORD AND JASPER AND SORT OF THE WHOLE SOUTHERN CAROLINA ALLIANCE AREA IN GENERAL.
AND SO SOME OF THE ITEMS I WANNA DRAW IN PARTICULAR TO YOUR ATTENTION, UM, THERE WAS A 10 MILLION APPROPRIATION TO S CCB FOR THE NEW CONVOCATION CENTER.
UM, THAT'S ON TOP OF SOME APPROPRIATIONS THEY GOT IN PRIOR YEARS.
SO THEY'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET, BUT THEY'RE CLOSE.
UM, WE ALSO GOT AN $11,500,000 APPROPRIATION AT TCL FOR THE NEW WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER THAT'S GONNA BE HERE IN, IN BLUFFTON.
UM, ALSO, UH, $900,000 FOR THE PORT ROYAL SOUND MARITIME CENTER AS YOU COME OVER FROM BUFORT AND CROSSOVER.
YOU REMEMBER ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, IF YOU'RE HEADING TO OUR BLUFFTON, THEY HAVE THAT MARITIME CENTER THE DEAN MOSS IS INVOLVED IN WITH DICK STEWART.
SO WE GOT AN APPROPRIATION FOR THAT AS WELL.
UM, WORKING WITH, UM, UM, YOUR STAFF, WE IDENTIFIED SOME PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON WAS INTERESTED IN AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET A 2 MILLION APPROPRIATION FOR A LINEAR WALKING TRAIL, UM, WHICH I THINK IS THE LAST PIECE YOU NEED TO COMPLETE THAT LINEAR WALKING TRAIL.
UM, BUT SINCE I'M MOVING HERE, MADAM MAYOR, UM, WE NEED TO HAVE A WALKING TRAIL.
SO YOU GOTTA GET THAT, GET THAT FINISHED UP.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, UM, ONE OF THE COMMON THEMES IN TALKING WITH EACH OF YOU BEFORE SESSION STARTED WAS WORKFORCE HOUSING WAS A CRITICAL PROBLEM AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET 5 MILLION WORTH APPROPRIATIONS FOR THAT.
WE GOT $3 MILLION TO THE BEAUFORT, JASPER REGIONAL HOUSING THAT, UM, THAT YOU AS A MEMBER OF SOLO LOCO, I THINK WAS WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN SETTING UP.
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APPROPRIATIONS ONE-TIME MONEY, UM, SORT OF A SEED MONEY ON TOP OF WHAT THE CONSTITUENT MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE PLEDGED TO KIND OF GET THAT GOING.I'VE ALSO, UM, HIGHLIGHTED A 2 MILLION APPROPRIATION TO HILTON HEAD REGIONAL HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
UM, EVEN THOUGH THE NOMENCLATURE IS HILTON HEAD, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE ACROSS THE LINE IN JASPER COUNTY.
SO I THINK IT'S GONNA ADDRESS SOME WORKFORCE NEEDS HERE IN BLUFFTON, WHICH IS WHY I INCLUDED THAT.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE IN HERE A MILLION DOLLARS TO OSPREY VILLAGE, WHICH IS, UM, SORT OF ACROSS FROM WHERE, UM, OLDFIELD IS DOWN THAT WAY.
UH, A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT.
AND, AND YOU CAN SEE THE OTHERS AS WELL, BUT THEY TOTAL IN THE AGGREGATE ALMOST $36 MILLION.
AND, AND AGAIN, UM, BY GIVING THIS REPORT TO Y'ALL, YOU CAN BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND IF YOU CAN GET IT TO ME LIKE IN SAY, OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER, THEN I CAN TAKE A FIRST STAB AT HAVING THE GOVERNOR INCLUDED IN HIS EXECUTIVE BUDGET BECAUSE HE STARTS THE PROCESS BY PUTTING TOGETHER AN EXECUTIVE BUDGET AND SUBMITTING IT TO HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS.
AND IF IT'S NOT IN THE EXECUTIVE BUDGET, THEN I CAN WORK ON GETTING IT IN THE HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS BUDGET BECAUSE ANYTHING THEY DON'T PICK UP, I CAN THEN GET IN THE SENATE VERSION AND THEN BILL AND I CAN, WHEN THEY RECONCILE THE TWO VERSIONS OF THE BUDGET WORK TO HOLD BOTH IN.
SO THE SOONER WE CAN GET THOSE REQUESTS, THE EARLIER I CAN KIND OF PUT IT INTO THAT, INTO THAT QUEUE AND, AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO GET MORE APPROPRIATIONS IN THE FUTURE.
UM, THREE OTHER THINGS AND THEN I'LL STOP.
UM, WE DID GET PAST, UH, LEGISLATION THAT AUTHORIZES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO USE 15% OF YOUR AT TAX DOLLARS, UH, IN ANY GIVEN YEAR FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING NEEDS.
OKAY, SO UP UNTIL UP UNTIL THIS LAW BEING ENACTED THIS YEAR, UM, YOU WERE CONSTRAINED TO USE THOSE MONIES MOSTLY FOR TOURISM DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.
THIS CARVES OUT AN EXCEPTION TO THAT AND GIVES YOU THE OPTION, NOT THE OBLIGATION, BUT THE OPTION OF TAPPING INTO ANY OR ALL OF THAT REVENUE STREAM UP TO 15%.
UM, YOU COULD, FOR INSTANCE, USE THAT TO MEET YOUR OBLIGATIONS TO THE BEAUFORD JASPER HOUSING TRUST FUND, FOR INSTANCE.
BUT ANYWAY, IT'S, IT'S FOR EACH LOCALITY TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT SUITS THEM.
UM, AND UH, WE ALSO GOT A PROVISO PASSED, UM, FOR 1.5 MILLION FOR THE SOUTHERN CAROLINA ALLIANCE TO STEP IN AND TAKE THE PLACE OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE PORT AUTHORITY IN CONNECTION WITH THE JAZZ REPORT PROJECT.
UM, ONE OF THE MAJOR STUMBLING BLOCKS OVER THE YEARS HAS BEEN THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE PORTS AUTHORITY.
AS A JOINT VENTURE PARTNER REALLY HAS NO DESIRE IN SEEING SOMETHING HAPPEN THERE.
SO GETTING THAT PROVISO IN THERE AND CLEARING A PATHWAY FOR THE SEVEN MEMBER SOUTHERN CAROLINA ALLIANCE TO STEP INTO THEIR SHOES IS GONNA BE A HUGE STEP FORWARD IN THAT REGARD.
UM, U S C B, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONVOCATION CENTER, BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING ELSE TO YOU BECAUSE IT ALSO SPEAKS TO WHAT OUR DELEGATION HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO.
WHEN I TOOK OFFICE IN 2009, U S C B WAS FUNDED AT ABOUT 38% OF THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE PER PUPIL, AND WE'RE NOW UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT ON A RECURRING BASIS.
SO, UM, SO THAT'S, AND TCL THE SAME THING, K THROUGH 12 PUBLIC EDUCATION, THE SAME THING.
SO THE DELEGATION WORKING AS A WHOLE BECAUSE OF THE COMMITTEE CHAIRMANSHIP WE TALKED ABOUT AND BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE SENIORITY THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, WE'RE FINALLY NOW NOT BEING TREATED LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS JUST BE HAPPY WITH WHATEVER YOU GET.
YOU'RE WEALTHY AND RICH AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
WE'RE GETTING OUR EQUITABLE SHARE OF THAT.
AND THEN LASTLY, I WOULD SAY IN REGARD TO I 95, UM, THAT HAS BEEN FULLY ENGINEERED.
ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION PLANS HAVE BEEN APPROVED, THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN PUT INTO PLACE AND WE SHOULD START SEEING AT THE END OF THIS YEAR OR IN JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR, ACTUAL WORK ON THE GROUNDS, UM, WIDENING THE THREE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
I 95 FROM THE GEORGIA SOUTH CAROLINA LINE WHERE THAT BRIDGE IS ALL THE WAY TO EXIT EIGHT.
SO THAT'S BEEN FUNDED AND ENGINEERED AND THE PLANS ARE IN PLACE.
SO YOU'LL BE STARTING TO SEE WORK ON THAT RELATIVELY SOON.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE NOW WORKING ON THE NEXT SEGMENT OF THAT FROM EXIT EIGHT UP TO THE WALTERBORO EXITS.
AND SO, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT AS TIME GOES ALONG.
AND THEN FINALLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE, I THINK AT SOME POINT IN TIME, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY IS GONNA PUT FORWARD A, A PENNY SALES TAX REFERENDUM FOR ROAD PROJECTS.
I KNOW MADAM MAYOR, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT AS WELL IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE FOR THIS AREA.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO ARGUING ON BEHALF OF THAT WHEN THAT TIME COMES.
UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE.
UM, OTHERWISE I'LL TAKE MY SEAT AND BE A CITIZEN.
UM, NEXT WEEK UNDER PRESENTATION, CELEBRATIONS
[3. Don Ryan Center Update - David Nelems, CEO]
AND RECOGNITIONS, WE HAVE DAVID CHANELS WHO'S GONNA GIVE US THE DON RYAN CENTER.HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD MADAM MAYOR, HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD.
I'M MADAM MAYOR COUNCIL, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER QUARTERLY UPDATE REAL BRIEFLY.
I KNOW YOU, KEVIN'S GOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, SO I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF YOUR TIME.
UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON AT THE FACILITY.
I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO COME BY.
UH, THE FACILITY IS ALWAYS BUSY.
TODAY WE HAD A, A LUNCH AND LEARN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THERE WERE
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PROBABLY 40 PEOPLE IN THAT IN THE DON RYAN CENTER TODAY.AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY THERE.
THE PARTNERSHIPS ARE STRONG, THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.
THE FACILITY YOU HAVE PROVIDED US WITH IS JUST A FANTASTIC FACILITY OF WHICH WE'RE GETTING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF USE OF.
AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE, UH, THE DON RYAN CENTER AND THAT LOCATION WE HAVE RIGHT NEXT TO RITA'S ICE CREAM AND THE UPS STORE AND THE PARK.
IT'S JUST A FANTASTIC LOCATION.
UH, THE YOU HAVE PROVIDED US WITH AS FAR AS, UH, SOME OPERATIONS UPDATE, AS YOU KNOW, WE JUST ADDED, UH, LATOYA SALTERS AS A BOARD MEMBER, A VOTING BOARD MEMBER, AND WE ADDED THREE NEW EX OFFICIO MEMBERS, TOM HANK.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY.
HE DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GONNA PICK ON HIM.
UH, WE CHANGED OUR BYLAWS TO, UH, ALLOW UP TO 10 EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS.
AS YOU REMEMBER, WE USED TO HAVE FIVE AND THOSE FIVE USED TO BE FROM CERTAIN DIFFERENT, UH, UH, INDUSTRIES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE, UM, FLEXIBILITY.
WE ACTUALLY MET WITH, UH, THE RYAN FAMILY AND PROVIDENCE COLLEGE FROM UP IN THE NORTHEAST.
THEY WANT US, THAT COLLEGE WANTS TO START A RYAN INCUBATOR, UH, WITHIN THAT COLLEGE.
AND THEY WANTED TO TALK TO US TO SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE AND BEST PRACTICES FOR HOW WE DO THINGS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
UH, WE'VE UP ALWAYS UPDATED THE DON RYAN WEBSITE.
WE HAD THE ONE BLOOD BUS THE OTHER DAY.
AND, UH, OUR CRM, HUBSPOT, WE ACTUALLY REDUCED OUR, UH, PRICING ON THAT BY ABOUT 35%.
SO WE'RE LOWERING PRICES ON, ON HOW WE, UH, DO OUR BUSINESS AS FAR AS, UH, THE CO COMPANIES.
IF YOU WALK INTO THE DON RYAN CENTER, YOU SEE THIS WALL THERE.
OF ALL THE COMPANIES WE HAVE WORKED WITH IN THE STARTUP OR GROWTH, UH, PROGRAM PHASE, UH, THERE ARE 16 COMPANIES IN THE DON RYAN CENTER.
THE PREVIOUS RECORD WAS 12 A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE THREE THAT JUST POPPED OUT A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
AND AGAIN, UH, WE ATTRIBUTE THIS TO A BETTER STAFFING WITH PAUL
BUT BEING MORE INVOLVED WITH OUR PARTNERS, UH, MORE AWARENESS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, IT'S REALLY GOING REALLY WELL.
UH, WE JUST SIGNED THE PART HARDY BILL PARTNERSHIP, AGAIN, UH, HARDY BELT EXECUTED IT TODAY A THREE YEAR TERM AS OPPOSED TO A ONE YEAR TERM.
SO THAT'LL GIVE US FUNDING FOR, UH, HARDY BILL AND, AND GENERAL FUNDING FOR THE DON RYAN CENTER AS WELL.
SO A LOT OF COMPANIES, THE DON RYAN CENTER, UH, ALMOST A, UH, AN EVEN SPLIT BETWEEN THE STARTUP COMPANIES AND THE GROWTH COMPANIES.
AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE USED TO THINK IT WOULD BE KIND OF TWO TO TWO TO THREE TO ONE MORE STARTUP THAN GROWTH.
AND IT'S REALLY ALMOST ONE TO ONE AND ALL TYPES OF THINGS FROM GULLS TS AND TINGS, WHICH IS A APPAREL COMPANY.
COFFEE TO TRUCKING, TO VERTICAL GARDENING, TO AUTOMOTIVE SOFTWARE TO PET AUTOMATION SOFTWARE TO ICE CREAM, TO DRONES, EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN FOR THE DON RYAN CENTER AS FAR AS HOW WE JUDGE OUR PERFORMANCE AGAINST 16 COMPANIES, LOOKING TO ADD TWO TO FOUR MORE IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.
AND A A NICE STAT, UH, 73% OF THE COMPANIES WE'VE WORKED WITH ARE STILL IN BUSINESS.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS THAT, AND I'LL READ A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, SHOWS THAT APPROXIMATELY 80% OF YOUR BUSINESSES SURVIVED THE FIRST TWO YEARS, BUT ONLY 55% SURVIVE FIVE YEARS.
AND ONLY 35% SURVIVED 10 YEARS.
SO THE COMPANIES WE ARE WORKING WITH ARE, UM, BY AND LARGE DOING BETTER THAN AN AVERAGE COMPANY THAT'S NOT BEEN IN AN INCUBATOR.
UH, 67% OF THEM ARE IN BLUFFTON.
THAT'S TRENDING UP A LITTLE BIT.
STILL HAVEN'T REACHED OUR GOAL ON 75%, BUT IT'S GOING UP A LITTLE BIT EVERY FEW MONTHS.
AND, UH, WE ARE HITTING ALL OUR NUMBERS AND WE ARE WORKING HARD TO, UH, GIVE BLUFFTON AND IT CITIZENRY THE BUSINESS INCUBATOR AND THE BUSINESS HELP THEY NEED.
THAT'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANNA SAY I SAW YOUR REPORT AND IT'S IMPRESSIVE AND THE RETENTION THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED AND THE GROWTH THAT YOU'VE EXPANDED INTO.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL ARE HITTING ALL CYLINDERS.
SO GOOD JOB QUESTIONS ON THIS SIDE.
[VIII. Public Comment]
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.WE OFFER PUBLIC COMMENTS ONCE DURING OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
WE SUPPORT AND WE ENCOURAGE PUBLIC COMMENT.
BUT IT IS A PRIVILEGE, IT IS NOT A RIGHT IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
UM, WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE IT, BUT WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES, UM, AND ADDRESS COUNSEL FOR ANY CONCERNS YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU'RE LI LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES WHETHER THE PERSON IS SPEAKING ON THEIR OWN BEHALF OR AN AGENT FOR OTHERS, YOU MAY NOT DONATE OR TRANSFER OR YIELD OR GIVE ANY OR PORTION OF YOUR SPEAKING TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON.
UH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE CONDUCTED FROM THE PODIUM.
YOU ARE TO DIRECT TOWN COUNSEL, NOT THE AUDIENCE.
YOU SHALL REFRAIN, UM, FROM COMMENT OR BEHAVIOR
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THAT INVOLVES DISORDERLY SPEECH OR ACTION, NAME CALLING, PERSONAL ATTACKS, THREATS, OBSCENE OR INDECENT REMARKS OR DISRUPTIVE ACT ACTIONS.UM, IF YOU WANT TO DEDICATE YOUR TIME AND LET SOMEONE ELSE READ YOURS, IT HAS TO BE SOMEONE WHO'S NOT BEEN AT PUBLIC COMMENT ON IN PERSON THREE MINUTES.
AND WE HAVE TO READ THIS, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED TO US AT A MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION TO MAKE SURE THE RULES ARE CLEAR.
WE'VE HAD AN ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION SAY THAT OUR RULES OF DECORUM ARE REASONABLE AND WE ARE FOLLOWING THE SECTION 2 49 OF OUR TOWN CODE.
SO WHEN YOU COME UP, PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
WE MIGHT KNOW YOU, BUT WE NEED MARSHA TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO IT TOMORROW TO KNOW WHO IT WAS THAT SAID WHAT.
SO PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN YOU COME UP TO SPEAK.
HOW MANY DO WE HAVE TONIGHT? WE HAVE TWO THIS EVENING.
MR. HOAGLAND NEED AN ADDRESS PLEASE, SIR.
SKIP HOAGLAND WINDMILL HARBOR, MS. COMB, WE NEED A LAW COMPLIANCE PLEDGE.
YOU SEND EMAILS FROM YOUR TOWN AND PERSONAL E UH, UH, EMAILS TO BILL MILES, THE CHAMBER, KIM LICHENS AND BILL HARKINS PAST HILTON HEAD COUNCIL MEMBERS TO STOP AND GET SKIP OLAND.
IS IT NOT A FACT? BOTH LICHENS AND YOUR DEFAMATION LAWSUITS FOR BOTH FRIVOLOUS AND MALICIOUS SCHEME WITH YOU AND OTHERS.
MS. SALKA, I'M IN THE TECHNOLOGY BUSINESS AND THESE EMAILS HAVE BEEN CAPTURED OFF THESE SERVERS AND WILL BE USED FOR MY 50 MILLION LAWSUIT AGAINST YOU.
YOU COMMITTED PERJURY UNDER OATH AS A CRIME IN YOUR DEPOSITION AT THE MURDOCH LAWYER'S OFFICE THAT I ATTENDED.
WE HAVE THIS LIVE FULLY DOCUMENTED AND ASSUME YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS, YOU DIDN'T ALLEGE MEMBERS ME AN ILLEGAL MEMBERSHIP DRIVE WITH MARK ORLANDO AND TERRY FINGER USING TOWN EMPLOYEES ON TOWN TIME TO SELL 500 MEMBERSHIPS FOR BILL MILES IN THE HILTON HEAD BLUFFTON CHAMBER TO TRY TO PUT YOUR OWN OFFICIAL GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER OUT OF BUSINESS.
WE HAVE EMAILS AND YOU OWE THE 140,000 IN DAMAGES TO YOUR OWN GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER.
YOU USED ILLEGAL TAX MONEY TO JOIN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON WITH ORLANDO TO BECOME A HILTON HEAD CHAMBER MEMBER VERSUS YOUR OWN MONEY.
WHO WAS A MEMBER SINCE YOU USED TAX MONEY.
JUST YOU AND TOWN EMPLOYEES ARE ALL TAXPAYERS IN BLUFFTON PLUS HILTON HEAD IS U CHAMBERS USING MILLIONS IN TAX FUNDS ILLEGALLY.
MS. SAL, IS IT NOT A FACT? THE 50 MILLION JUDGMENT YOU WON AGAINST ME WITH YOUR CROOKED MURDOCH LAWYERS WAS FRIVOLOUS, MALICIOUS, AND SCHEME TO SI SILENCE MY VOICE ON YOUR LIES AND CORRUPTION.
IS IT NOT A FACT? YOUR, YOUR LAWSUITS FOR RULED AGAINST THE RULE OF LAW AND EVEN A JUDGE CAUGHT LYING SAYING HE SAW ENOUGH EVIDENCE IN LAW TO GO TO TRIAL.
MS. SALKA, YOU UNDERSTAND, I WILL SEEK IN MY LAWSUITS THE SAME 50 MILLION FROM YOU.
THE BAR HAS BEEN SET SINCE YOU'VE LIED WITH YOUR MURDOCH LAWYERS.
MS. SALKA, YOU COMMITTED ILLEGAL ACTS, CRIMINAL PERJURY AND SCHEME TO HARM NOT ONLY ME, BUT MY INNOCENT WIFE, WHO ALSO YOU ACCUSE OF COMMITTING FRAUD AND CONSPIRACY TO HIDE 50 MILLION.
GOD KNOWS WHERE IT'S MASSIVE INSANITY.
MS. SOKA, YOU ARE IN BIG TROUBLE.
YOU AND YOUR CROOKED MURDOCH LAWYERS WILL NEVER COLLECT AN INSANE $50 MILLION JUDGMENT AGAINST ME.
FACT IS YOU WILL OWE ME 50 MILLION FOR YOUR ILLEGAL ACTS IN EXTREME VIOLATIONS OF MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
YOUR LAWYER FINGER AND ORLANDO PAST MANAGER WILL BE HELD LIABLE FOR THEIR LIES AND THEIR DAMAGES AND THEIR FRAUD REMOVING ME BY POLICE FORCE VIOLATING MY POA AND MY FIRST AMENDMENT, WHICH YOU'RE GONNA DO TODAY, WE'RE ALL GONNA WITNESS, IS ONLY GONNA INCREASE MY DAMAGES AGAINST YOU.
LYNN GREELEY, I'M HERE AND I'VE SUBMITTED A POA TO MR. FANGER.
MR I IT PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT ME.
PLEASE SHOW ME THE SAME RESPECT THAT I SHOW YOU.
PLEASE DO NOT INTERRUPT ME, PLEASE.
I'M HERE TO, TO SPEAK FOR MS. GREELEY'S THREE MINUTES WITH A POA, WHICH IS A LEGAL LAW DOCUMENT.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE INTERRUPTING ME.
PLEASE RESPECT ME, MS. SOKA PUBLIC COMMENT.
PLEASE DO NOT, PLEASE DO NOT DISRESPECT ME.
SIR, YOU'RE NOT SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA START MY, MY THREE MINUTES.
UH, MR. FINGER, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
NO, YOU'VE BEEN RULED OUT OF ORDER.
MAYOR HAS ENDED PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU'VE BEEN RULED OUTTA ORDER.
YOU CAN EITHER HAVE A SEAT OR NO, NO.
WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MEETING.
I'M SORRY, I'M PUBLIC MEETING SO I'M GONNA START MS. SO I CELEBRATED THE 50 MILLION AWARD IN YOUR PRIVILEGED DEFAMATION LAWSUIT.
YOUR AMBULANCE CHASE MURDOCH LAWYER WAS ABLE TO WIN PURELY ON YOUR CROCODILE TEARS, YOUR EMOTIONS AND YOUR DRAMA.
PLEASE LET ME FINISH MY SPEECH.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I GOTTA GO? I JUST SUBMITTED A POA DOC PUBLIC WOULD COMMENT.
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OVER.WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD THE MEETING RIGHT NOW.
YOU'RE DISRUPTING THE PUBLIC SHERIFF.
YOU'RE A HIRED SHERIFF IN BLUFFTON AND HE'S THE ELECTED OFFICIAL BEAUFORD COUNTY INSURANCE.
WE'RE TRYING TO, I WANT TO FINISH MY SPEECH.
WELL YOU GUYS PUT YOUR HANDS OFF OF THIS.
WE HAVE, UM, COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[IX. Communications from Mayor and Council]
I'LL LOOK TO BRIDGET OR LARRY.SO I HAVE THREE ITEMS FOR THE GOOD.
UH, FIRST ON BEHALF OF THE BLUFFTON MLK OBSERVANCE COMMITTEE, A HUGE THANK YOU TO THE CITIZENS OF BLUFFTON AND TO THE TOWN FOR PARTNERING AGAIN ON THE EIGHTH ANNUAL JUNETEENTH UH, FESTIVAL WEEKEND, WHICH WAS AN AMAZING, UH, CELEBRATION OF EVENTS THROUGHOUT THAT THREE DAY, UH, WEEKEND WAS GREAT ATTENDANCE.
UM, AND SO WE WERE JUST GRATEFUL FOR EVERYONE WHO WAS THERE.
ALSO, I WANNA COMMEND TOWN STAFF AND EVERYONE FOR THE ORGANIZING AND PLANNING OF THE INDEPENDENCE DAY EVENT.
UM, THAT WAS ALSO A HUGE SUCCESS.
THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT IN ATTENDANCE AND EVERYONE'S JUST RAVED ABOUT HOW GREAT THAT EVENT WAS.
AND I KNOW IT WASN'T AN EASY FEAT TO BE ABLE TO PULL ALL THOSE UM, EVENTS TOGETHER, BUT YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB.
AND, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE ESPECIALLY APPRECIATED THAT THE FIREWORKS WENT LONGER THIS YEAR.
SO GREAT JOB AGAIN TO THE TOWN AND STAFF ON THAT.
AND LASTLY, EVERYONE IS INVITED THIS THURSDAY AT 6:00 PM WE'RE HAVING A CHAMPION CELEBRATION FOR OUR OLYMPIAN, CHARLOTTE LEWIS, WHO WON THREE MEDALS, TWO BRONZE AND WON GOLD MEDAL AT THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS IN BERLIN, GERMANY.
UH, AND SHE WON, UH, GOLD IN A 200 METER FOR KAYAKING.
AND SO WE'RE ASKING EVERYONE TO COME OUT TO WRIGHT FAMILY PARK AT 6:00 PM WHERE SHE'LL BE ABLE TO GO AROUND AND GET A CIRCLE OF CONGRATULATIONS.
AND THERE'S A LIST, A LIST OF ITEMS THAT SHE ENJOYS THAT ANYONE COMING CAN BRING TO DROP IN HER WINTER'S WAGON.
AND SO, UH, I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA COMMUNICATE MORE OF THAT THROUGH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AND SHE'LL ALSO GETTING A KEY TO THE TOWN AND SHE WILL BE GETTING A KEY TO THE TOWN.
HOPEFULLY
JUST I AGREE WITH WHAT BRIDGET JUST SAID.
UM, ONE THING THAT WE, I THINK THROUGH JUST THE CHANGEOVER OF OUR TOWN CLERKS AND EMAIL GOT LOST FROM QUEEN QUIT.
SHE'S ALWAYS COME EVERY JULY FOR PROCLAMATION FOR HER, UM, GULLAH GEECHEE NATION APPRECIATION WEEK.
AND I SAW AN EMAIL TODAY, UH, OR A VOICEMAIL THAT SOMETHING FELL THROUGH THE CRACK AND SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT I DO WANT TO EVERYONE, WE ARE WRITING A PROCLAMATION AND WE'LL GET IT TO HER TO READ.
BUT THEY HAVE THE THEME OF THE EVENT IS CELEBRATING GULLAH GEECHEE RESILIENCY.
AND IT STARTS, UH, JULY 29TH AT NOON AT HISTORIC ST.
AND IT GOES THROUGH AUGUST 5TH.
SO WE'VE MISSED A COUNCIL MEETING TO LET HER TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT TO EVERYONE AND WE'LL MAKE SURE.
UM, I ALSO THANK YOU YOUNG MAN FOR BEING HERE.
WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON CIVILITY.
WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON TRANSPARENCY.
UM, WE HAVE NEVER NOT ALLOWED.
ONE TIME WE ALLOWED, WE STOPPED THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE GOT SUED.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WE WON BECAUSE WE FELT THE BASIS, THE JUDGE AND JURY FOUND THAT THE BASIS FOR THAT REMOVAL, JUDGE AND JURY.
UM, SO I'M SORRY THAT Y'ALL HAVE TO SEE THIS, BUT HE CONSISTENTLY BREAKS OUR RULES AND WE CAN PROVIDE RULES OF DECORUM.
SO I WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO READ SOMEONE'S PUBLIC COMMENT IF THEY CAN'T BE HERE.
AND I'VE OFFERED IT, BUT IT IS JUST A, AN ABILITY TO GET VIDEOED.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR Y'ALL CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS TO DO TODAY.
MR. TURNER, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT, UM, I SENT, UM, WE WERE NOTIFIED WITHIN THE LAST WEEK OR 10 DAYS THAT MR. HOAGLAND IS NOW REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL, UM, OUT OF COLUMBIA ON THESE PUBLIC COMMENT ISSUES.
UM, WE RECEIVED TWO EMAILS FROM MR. HOAGLAND YESTERDAY AND I RESPONDED TO TAYLOR SMITH, THE LAWYER FROM MR. HO HOGAN AT 8 55 THIS MORNING BY EMAIL TAYLOR, I'M RESPONDING TO EMAILS FROM SKIP HOGAN YESTERDAY AT 8:28 PM AND THE SECOND AT MIDNIGHT.
YOU WERE COPIED ON BOTH EMAILS.
SKIP HOGAN HAS INFORMED THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON THAT YOU REPRESENT HIM IN.
THESE PUBLIC COMMENT MATTERS AND THEREFORE I CANNOT ETHICALLY COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH HIM ONCE THE LAWYER IS PUT ON NOTICE THAT THE OTHER SIDE HAS REPRESENTED MY COUNSEL.
I CANNOT HAVE DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH MR. HOGAN.
SO I WROTE TO HIS LAWYER THIS MORNING, THE TOWN
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OF BLUFFTON RULES ALLOW THREE MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT PER INDIVIDUAL.THE RULES DO NOT ALLOW SOMEONE TO SPEAK LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES, WHETHER THEY HAVE A POWER OF ATTORNEY OR GIVEN TIME FROM SOMEONE ELSE, ET CETERA.
WE SOUGHT AN OPINION FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE OPINION WAS THAT OUR RULES ARE LEGAL, PROPER AND ENFORCEABLE.
SKIP HOAGLAND IS AWARE AND FAMILIAR WITH THE TOWN'S RULES AND THE AG OPINION.
HE SIMPLY THINKS HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COMPLY.
IF MR. HOAGLAND CHOOSES NOT TO COMPLY WITH THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT AT OUR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT, HE CAN EXPECT TO BE RULED OUT OF ORDER.
HE WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE PODIUM, EITHER SIT DOWN OR LEAVE THE CHAMBER.
IF HE REFUSES, HE WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE PODIUM BY THE BLUFFTON POLICE OFFICERS PRESENT.
IF HE REFUSES TO COMPLY, HE WILL BE ESCORTED OUT AND BE GIVEN OTHER ANOTHER TOWN CITATION.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I TOLD MR. HOGAN BEFORE THE MEETING IN JUNE AND HE CHOSE TO IGNORE THE RULES.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER WITH YOU IF YOU DESIRE, I WILL BE IN THE OFFICE ALL DAY.
I DID RECEIVE A, UH, A RESPONSE FROM MR. SMITH INDICATING THAT HE HAS INFORMED MR. HOGAN OF THIS EMAIL.
UM, AND AT 4 53 THIS MORNING, I'M NOT 4 53 THIS AFTERNOON, RIGHT BEFORE OUR MEETING, MR. HOGAN PRESENTED OUR TOWN CLERK WITH THE POWER OF ATTORNEY.
I AGAIN REMINDED MR. HOGAN THAT HE HAD A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES WHETHER HE HAD A POWER OF ATTORNEY OR NOT.
UM, I DID GET SOMETHING, UM, CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS TO DO TONIGHT, BUT I WAS, UH, SOMEWHERE AND I WALKED BY AND WE HAVE A NEW MAGAZINE CALLED BLUFFTON IN THE LOW COUNTRY AND I LOVE THAT CAUSE IT SAID BLUFFTON IS LOW COUNTRY AND WHO IS ON THE COVER, BUT OUR COUNCILWOMAN BRIDGETTE FRAZIER.
SO I OPENED AND READ ABOUT YOURS IN BILLY WATERS'S, HOW YOU MET AND JUST ALL THE THINGS GOING ON WITH MA DAISY AND YOUR EFFORTS TO REALLY TRULY PROMOTE AND SUPPORT THE BLACK BUSINESSES, THE GULLAH BUSINESSES, AND HAVE A TRUE PLACE WITH THIS HERITAGE CENTER.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK THE TALK, BUT THEY DON'T WALK THE WALK.
AND I APPRECI I LOVE THE ARTICLE, SO Y'ALL PICK IT UP.
IT WAS JUNE'S ISSUE AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT CAME OUT, BUT I JUST SAW IT.
GREAT MAGAZINE OF ALL THE THINGS GOING ON IN BLUFFTON, SO THAT WAS REALLY COOL.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR AUTOGRAPH COPIES, AUTOGRAPH ANYTHING FOR YOU, DAN? GO WITH IT.
[X. Formal Agenda Items]
ITEMS AND WE HAVE A BUSY NIGHT AND I THINK KEVIN IS JUST GONNA GET A SEAT UP HERE.HE IS FIRST, NO, CHRIS IS FIRST CONSIDERATION
[1. Consideration of a Resolution to Approve a Proposed Contractual Agreement]
OF A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH FIRST CITIZENS WEALTH MANAGEMENT RELATING TO FINANCIAL ADVISORY INVESTMENT SERVICES.AND IS THIS A RESOLUTION? IS IT A FIRST READING RESOLUTION? OKAY, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.
SO GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UH, AS YOU READ, THIS IS REGARDING A CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENT WITH A, UH, FINANCIAL INSTITUTION FOR INVESTMENT SERVICES.
SO YOU ALL WELL AWARE OF ALL THE WORK WE'VE DONE OVER THE MANY YEARS TO BUILD UP OUR RESERVES, UH, DEVELOP A RESERVE POLICY.
UM, AND MOST RECENTLY WE ACHIEVED A AAA RATING BY MOODY'S INVESTOR SERVICES.
AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW CAN WE BEST MANAGE THOSE DOLLARS AS THEY SIT IDLE IN OUR ACCOUNTS.
BUT REALLY QUICK, I WOULD SUMMARIZE OUR ADOPTED INVESTMENT POLICY.
YOU GUYS ADOPT THIS AS PART OF THE FINANCIAL POLICIES, UM, DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR BINDERS BACK AT HOME, UH, THIS WILL BE IN THERE IN A MUCH MORE, UH, IN DEPTH.
UH, I THINK IT'S A PAGE AND A HALF, BUT THIS IS A SUMMARY HERE.
AND IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT, UH, WE WILL STRIVE TO OBTAIN THE BEST POSSIBLE RETURN, UH, BUT NOT INVEST BEYOND WHEN FUNDS ARE EXPECTED TO BE NEEDED.
IT PRIORITIZES OUR OBJECTIVES IN SAFETY, WHICH IS YOUR RETURN OF YOUR INVESTMENT, UH, LIQUIDITY, WHEN YOU MIGHT NEED THOSE DOLLARS FOR USE, AND THEN YIELD, WHICH IS RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH LAW, STATE LAW AND SOME OF THE AUTHORIZED INVESTMENTS THAT ARE, UH, LISTED IN THE INVESTMENT POLICY ARE US OBLIGATIONS.
UM, FEDERAL BANKING INSTITUTIONS, GENERAL OBLIGATIONS OF THE STATE, SAME AS THE LOAN ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE INSURED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
UM, WELL I SPELLED THAT WRONG, I APOLOGIZE.
CERTIFICATES OF DEPOSITS THAT ARE COLLATERALLY SECURED REPURCHASE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE COLLATERALIZED, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOLS AND INTEREST BEARING REPOSITORY ACCOUNTS.
SO THIS IS A LOOK AT OUR CASH TODAY, UH, GROUPED BY OUR MAJOR FUNDS.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE ABOUT 76.8 MILLION IN CASH.
UM, AND THESE ARE ALL IN DIFFERENT FUNDS FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES, UH, MUCH OF WHICH WAS VER RESERVED FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS AS WELL AS RESERVED AS PART OF OUR FUND BALANCE POLICY.
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AND THEN OF COURSE, DEBT SERVICE TO PAY OFF DEBT.UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TIFF FUNDS IN THERE AS WELL FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
SO THIS IS OUR CASHFLOW TREND OVER TIME.
UH, THIS IS THE FI MOST RECENT FIVE YEARS.
UM, AS YOU GO ALONG THIS, THESE, UH, THESE DIPS TYPICALLY HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.
UM, THOSE ARE THE LOW POINTS IN CASH THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS WE SPEND DOWN THROUGH OUR OPERATIONS.
AND THAT'S RIGHT BEFORE WE GET OUR PROPERTY TAX, UH, PAYMENTS, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS JUMPS BECAUSE THOSE ARE RUN PROPERTY TAXES COME IN.
UM, YOU'LL SEE IN 2021, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL RECALL, BUT THERE IS THAT ISSUE BETWEEN THE COUNTY AUDITOR AND THE COUNTY TREASURER WITH THE BAIL BILLS GOING OUT.
SO THAT, UH, IS A LITTLE MORE, UH, GRADUAL, NOT AS MUCH OF A SPIKE.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS IN MID 60 MILLIONS FOR NOT, UM, THAT EXCLUDES THE BOND PROCEEDS AMOUNT, WHICH YOU SAW ON THE PREVIOUS CHART.
SO IN THE PAST, UM, FED RATES HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW IN RECENT YEARS.
UM, AND WE DIDN'T ALWAYS HAVE THIS, UH, AMOUNT OF MONEY SITTING ASIDE.
SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY ACTIVELY MANAGED OUR CASH.
IT'S PRIMARILY SAT IN SEVERAL DEPOSITORY ACCOUNTS, UH, WITH, UH, WELLS FARGO, UM, PALMETTO STATE.
UM, AND THEN IN 2019, UH, WE PUT ONE AND A HALF MILLION IN THE, UH, LOCAL AND GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL.
AND THIS IS A POOLED GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT, UH, FUND, UH, THAT THE STATE TREASURER MANAGES.
AND THIS IS A FIVE YEAR, UH, LOOK AT WHAT OUR INTEREST EARNINGS ARE, HAVE BEEN, OBVIOUSLY WITH RATES SO LOW IN THE PAST, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SIGNIFICANT.
2023, OBVIOUSLY A VERY LARGE JUMP.
UH, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE, UH, FED RATES THAT INCREASES THAT YOU'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST 12 TO 18 MONTHS.
AND THAT 410,000 IS ON ALL OF OUR ACCOUNTS THAT TOTAL 70, UH, 6.7 MILLION.
SO WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WE WANT TO, UH, MORE PROACTIVELY MANAGE OUR CASH.
UH, ONE WE WANT TO DIVERSIFY, WANT TO DIVERSIFY BETWEEN FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AS WELL AS TYPES OF ACCOUNTS AND INVESTMENTS.
UM, AND WE WANNA PUT OUR RESERVES TO WORK.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A, UH, LOW YIELD, RELATIVELY LOW TO NO RISK, UH, SITUATION WITH OUR SITTING IN DEPOSITORY ACCOUNTS.
UM, ALTHOUGH THERE IS SOME RISK BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVE A LOT OF CASH IN, UH, ACCOUNTS THAT MAY NOT FULLY BE INSURED BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, WHICH IS A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE.
UM, BUT YOU, YOU WANNA SHIFT TO SOME, UH, HIGHER YIELDING ACCOUNTS THAT ARE STILL LOW RISK INVESTMENTS.
AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
UM, YOU WANT TO, AND WE LOOK AT OUR BOND PROCEEDS.
SO WE ISSUE BONDS, WE TAKE IN THOSE CASH, UM, AND IT SITS THERE UNTIL WE SPEND IT ON PROJECTS.
SO THERE'S A SPEND TIMELINE BASED ON THE PROJECT TIMELINE, AND YOU CAN EARN INTEREST ON THOSE BOND PROCEEDS, UM, UP TO WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY PAYING ON INTEREST AND ABOVE THAT IS ARBITRAGE.
AND YOU HAVE TO PAY BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO YOU WANNA MAXIMIZE WHAT YOU CAN LEGALLY YIELD ON THOSE BOND PROCEEDS THAT SIT IN YOUR ACCOUNTS UNTIL THEY'RE SPENT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WANNA PREPARE OURSELVES FOR FUTURE FED RATE CUTS AS RATES GO DOWN AGAIN.
SO WE WANT TO AVOID GETTING BACK TO IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE ONLY MAKING 50 GRAND A YEAR.
UM, SOME OF OUR CON CONSIDERATIONS AS WE EVALUATE THIS, OBVIOUSLY RISK, UH, IS HUGE.
UM, BY LAW WE'RE RESTRICTED ON PRETTY LOW RISK INVESTMENTS OVERALL.
UM, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS RISK INVOLVED IN ANY KIND OF INVESTMENT YOU MAKE YOUR LIQUIDITY YOU NEED.
SO LOOKING AT, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WHEN DO WE NEED CASH, UM, AT WHAT PERIODS? UM, LOOKING AT SOME UNIQUE CONSIDERATIONS LIKE OBVIOUSLY HURRICANE SEASONS, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH SITTING ASIDE IN CASE SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN SO YOU CAN RESPOND QUICKLY.
UM, WHAT ARE YOUR RETURN EXPECTATIONS? UM, WHAT ARE YOU HOPING TO RETURN IN BALANCE WITH, WITH, UH, YOUR RISK? UM, YOU WANNA FIND A NICE BALANCE THERE BASED ON YOUR, YOUR, YOUR RISK ACCEPTABILITY AND THEN HISTORICAL AND ANTICIPATED CASH FLOWS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WHICH I SHOWED YOU THAT AND WHERE IT DIPS AND INCREASES THROUGHOUT THE, THE FISCAL YEAR.
OKAY, SO WHEN WE SOUGHT OUT INVESTMENT SERVICES, WE USED G Y AS A TEMPLATE, MUCH LIKE WE DID WITH OUR RESERVE POLICY.
UM, THEY HAVE GUIDANCE ON THIS TYPE OF, UH, SOLICITATION FOR SERVICES.
SO WE DRAFTED OUR RFP BASED ON THOSE BEST, BEST PRACTICES.
UH, WE HAD A, A REVIEW COMMITTEE OF THE ACCOUNTING AND RISK MANAGER, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, AND THE ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER MYSELF.
UM, WE CONDUCTED INTERVIEWS AND REFERENCE CHECKS AND WE ULTIMATELY LANDED ON THE BEST QUALIFIED BIDDER, UH, OF, UH, FIRST CITIZENS WEALTH MANAGEMENT.
UM, I WILL COMMENT THAT THE REFERENCE CHECKS WERE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES WITHIN SOUTH CAROLINA AND THEY ALL CAME BACK EXTREMELY POSITIVE AND GLOWING, UH, WHICH IS REALLY NICE TO SEE AS WELL.
YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO THOSE, BUT THEY ALL DEFINITELY DID.
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SO FIRST CITIZENS, THEY WERE FOUNDED IN 1898.WELL, THEY'RE PROBABLY EVEN MORE NOW, WHICH I'LL TALK IN A MINUTE.
UM, THEY WITH 600 LOCATIONS, UH, THEY'RE PUBLIC PUBLICLY TRADED.
UH, THEY HAD 110 BILLION IN ASSETS THAT HAS DOUBLED.
UM, THEY ARE THE BANK THAT ACQUIRED SILICON VALLEY, UH, BANK THAT WENT UNDERWATER OUT IN CALIFORNIA.
SO THEY ACQUIRED THAT BANK, UH, BANK.
SO I BELIEVE THEIR ASSETS HAVE NOW DOUBLED AND THEY ARE A TOP 20 US BANK IN THE US.
SO THEY HAD, UH, CLIENT RELATIONSHIPS OF, UH, OVER 1300.
AND UH, THIS IS THE WEALTH MANAGEMENT DIVISION.
UH, AND THEIR TOTAL ASSETS WERE 17.1 BILLION.
THEIR MUNICIPAL CLIENTS WERE 65 DIFFERENT MUNICIPAL CLIENTS.
AND, UH, MUNICIPAL ASSETS MANAGE IS 807 UH, MILLION WITH AN AVERAGE CLIENT INVESTMENT OF 12.4 MILLION.
THE TEAM THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH, AND SOME OF 'EM ARE HERE TODAY, UH, YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND ON MENTIONED.
DAVE LOBECK IS A VP OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.
UH, HIS CAREER IS 35 YEARS GOING STRONG.
GRANT CATTO INSTITUTIONAL CONSULTANT, UH, 23 YEARS.
NEIL CHAPMAN, SENIOR PORTFOLIO STRATEGIST, 23 YEARS.
HANK DUNBAR'S MANAGER, 42 YEARS.
AND OUR LOCAL CONTACTS, JUSTIN RICE, WHO IS, UH, MARKET EXECUTIVE AND ETHAN COXIN MAKE IT TONIGHT, BUT HE'S THE LOCAL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT OFFICER HERE AT THE BRANCH HERE.
SO THEIR APPROACH, AND THIS WAS OUTLINED IN THEIR RFP, UM, THEY SIT DOWN WITH THE CLIENT AND REVIEW THEIR INVESTMENT POLICIES AND THEY IDENTIFY WHAT THE OBJECTIVES ARE AND THEY USE THAT INFORMATION TO KIND OF FORMULATE, FORMULATE THEIR STRATEGY.
UM, AND LOOKING AT THE CAPITAL MARKET EXPECTATIONS OVER THE NEXT, UH, 1, 2, 3 YEARS.
UM, THEY, THEY TRY TO OPTIMIZE THE PORTFOLIO BASED ON THESE, THESE ANALYSES.
AND UH, OBVIOUSLY THEY OFFER ONGOING MONITORING AND REPORTING AND CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR CLIENTS.
SO THEIR STRATEGIES ARE THAT THEY OUTLINED FOR US ARE YIELD CURVE POSITIONING.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE FOLLOWING INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENTS, YOU EXTEND THE DURATIONS OF THOSE INVESTMENTS AND RISING INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENTS, YOU SHORTEN THOSE DURATIONS.
AND THEN TRADING ACTIVELY, UH, SECURITY SELECTION WITHIN ALLOWED INVESTMENTS THAT WE MENTIONED PRIOR, UH, TO MAXIMIZE THESE YIELDS AT EACH OF THOSE INVESTMENT DATES.
SO THIS IS A LOOK AT THE FED FUNDS RATE SINCE 99.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, PERIODS WHERE THEY INCREASED THE RATE AND WHERE YOU SAW A DROP OFF, OBVIOUSLY, UM, OUR INTEREST EARNINGS THAT I SHOWED IN THE, IN PRIOR SLIDES WAS AROUND HERE, WHICH IS WHY WE WERE ONLY GETTING 50,000.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS THIS INCREASE RIGHT HERE.
AND HERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, AND BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND OTHERS, THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT THIS WILL PLATEAU.
SO WE'LL SEE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE PLATEAUS HAPPENING OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.
UM, AND I'M GONNA USE THIS ONE AS AN ILLUSTRATED EXAMPLE, UM, THAT THEY PROVIDED ME.
SO HERE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE BLUE LINE HERE IS THE FED FUNDS RATE.
THE, THE, THE PERIOD THAT I JUST CIRCLED FOR YOU.
THAT GRAY LINE IS THAT POOLED ELIGIBLE FUND STATE FUND.
AND BASICALLY THEY'RE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD IN THEIR INVESTMENT, JUST ONE TYPE OF INVESTMENT AND IT PRETTY MUCH FOLLOWS THAT FED FUNDS RATE OVER TIME.
AND THEN THE RED LINE IS THERE, UH, FOR CITIZENS', UH, LADDER PORTFOLIO.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHEN THEY, THEY, THEY STRUCTURE THEIR, THEIR INVESTMENTS BASED ON THAT, UM, THE EXPECTATION OF THE INTEREST RATES AND THE TERM OF THOSE INVESTMENTS.
AND THEY TRY AND BALANCE A LONGER TERM, UH, AVERAGE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT.
SO THERE ARE SHORT PERIODS WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF THE FED FUND RIGHT SPIKES WHERE THEY MAY NOT QUITE, UM, EXCEED PERFORMANCE OF, OF THAT, UM, BUT OVER TIME THEY MUCH MORE OUTPERFORM AND WE'RE SEEING THIS TYPE OF SPIKE RIGHT HERE CURRENTLY ACCORDING TO THEM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS WHY THEY WANT TO HELP US LOCK INTO A, UH, CERTAIN TYPE OF LADDER PORTFOLIO THAT WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE, THOSE RATES.
THIS IS THEIR FEE SCHEDULE AND IT'S BASED ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF DOLLARS INVESTED.
UM, AND THAT'S THE ANNUALIZED FEE.
AND JUST AN EXAMPLE, UH, WE ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE A MOCK PORTFOLIO, UM, IF WE WERE TO GIVE THEM 10 MILLION AS AN EXAMPLE, AND THEY CHOSE A ZERO TO THREE YEAR TREASURY PORTFOLIO, UM, WITH AN ESTIMATED YIELD TO MATURITY OF 5.12% WITH ESTIMATED ANNUAL RETURN OF OVER A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND AGAIN, THAT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IS JUST ON THAT 10 MILLION.
AND IF YOU SAW ON A PREVIOUS SLIDE WE HAD 76.8 MILLION AND MADE 400 SOMETHING THOUSAND.
SO GIVES YOU A LITTLE EXAMPLE OF THIS SCALABILITY THERE AND THEN THE ESTIMATED FEES WOULD BE ABOUT 35,000 WITH A NET RETURN OF 477,000.
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QUESTIONS CAN I ANSWER FOR YOU? I HAVE A FEW THAT I'M GONNA LET EVERYONE QUESTIONS HERE.YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR I THINK ABOUT IT, I CAN LOOK LEFT FOR YOU.
I JUST HAVE ONE, UM, CHRIS, ONE PLACE WHERE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT AT THE VERY BEGINNING WHERE IT SAID, UM, THAT THE RETURNS WHERE IT WAS 50,000, 60, 70 AND THEN YOU HAD A 410 YEP.
THAT'S A RETURN OR THAT'S AN ESTIMATED BECAUSE IT WAS FOR YEAR TWO 20, I MEAN FOR 23, THOSE ARE ARE INTEREST EARNINGS.
THE FY 23, THE YEAR THAT JUST ENDED AT THIS POINT, THAT JUST ENDED.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SAW THIS SPIKE RIGHT HERE.
AND SO, AND, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY, I MEAN THE, THE THE BANKING INSTITUTIONS, I MEAN THEY'RE WHAT POINT 0.3%, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S 75 MILLION IN THOSE ACCOUNTS.
SO, UM, 0.3% OF THAT IS QUITE A BIT.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN THE L G UH, EARNED QUITE A BIT OVER THE PAST YEAR BECAUSE OF THOSE HEAD FUND INCREASE.
SO, SO CHANGING TO THIS, IF WE APPROVE THIS, THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MUCH MORE WITH MUCH MORE MONEY.
BUT BASICALLY WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY THAT'S NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME THAT'S DOING A LITTLE BIT RIGHT.
SO THIS IS JUST KINDA LEVELING THE, THE FIELD TO GET THE MOST OUT OF.
AND ALSO TO HELP US PREPARE FOR THESE PERIODS.
UM, SO AS WITH ANYTHING, UH, CHRIS, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, AND BEFORE I DO THAT, I FORGOT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND, UM, IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT ON GETTING US THAT, UM, THAT RATING THAT YOU DID THROUGH THE MOVIE CREDIT REPORTING AND WE ARE ONE OF ONLY FIVE MUNICIPALITIES IN, IN THE STATE WITH IT.
UM, SO AS WITH ANYTHING THERE ARE RISK ASSOCIATED, WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL RISK, UM, HERE? YEAH, I I WOULD SAY PROBABLY THE BIGGEST RISK IS MAKING SURE THAT WE TRUCTURE THE PORTFOLIO TO MEET OUR LIQUIDITY NEEDS, OUR CASH FLOW NEEDS.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AS, AS YOU SAW, MOSTLY WHAT THEY'RE INVESTING IN ARE OUR US TREASURIES, UM, WHICH ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THE LOWEST RISK TYPE OF, UH, INVESTMENTS YOU CAN HAVE.
UM, SO THAT CHANCES OF US NOT GETTING OUR PRINCIPAL BACK IS EXTREMELY LOW.
UM, UH, REALLY THE RISK IS ARE WE GONNA GET AS MUCH AS IN IF IT'S IN OTHER TYPES OF ACCOUNTS OR ARE WE GONNA MEET OUR CASHFLOW NEEDS? AND THOSE ARE WHAT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.
STRUCTURING BASED ON WHAT WE SEE OUR BUDGET ARY NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ARE WHAT OUR CAPITAL PROJECT NEEDS ARE, UM, AND THEIR PROJECT TIMELINES.
SO STAFF WILL WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM ON THAT.
AND ARE THERE, UM, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT, UM, YOU'VE HAD OR HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LIKE RESEARCH TO SEE WHAT THEIR SUCCESSES IN GOING DOWN THIS ROUTE HAVE BEEN? YEAH, UM, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, BUT I BELIEVE H COUNTY, UM, OR HORRY COUNTY, EXCUSE ME, I APOLOGIZE.
COULD BE HORRY COUNTY KINDA IS.
UM, AND THEY, THEY GAVE A GREAT REFERENCE.
UM, I BELIEVE THE WATER DISTRICT IN EASILY, I BELIEVE EASILY COMBINED UTILITIES.
UH, THEIR UTILITY DISTRICT IS ANOTHER ONE THAT GAVE A GREAT REFERENCE AND THERE WAS A THIRD AS WELL.
WHAT TYPE OF, UH, LIKE, UH, INCREASE DID THEY SEE OR WHAT, UM, WHAT DID THEY YIELD WITH THEIR, I DIDN'T ASK THEM ON THE SPECIFIC YIELDS, BUT IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THIS IS THE TYPE OF INVESTMENTS THAT THEY WOULD OFFER RIGHT HERE.
MR. HAMILTON, AND THEN MR. WHITE BRIDGE.
WHAT TIME PERIOD ARE WE LOOKING TO, TO INVEST IN, IN, AND HOW MUCH FUNDS ARE WE LOOKING TO ADVANCE? SO THE, UM, THE EXAMPLE GIVEN WAS A ZERO TO THREE LADDER PORTFOLIO.
SO YOU'D HAVE, THEY'D HAVE DIFFERENT MATURITIES THROUGHOUT IT, UM, UM, UP TO THREE YEARS AND THEY WOULD STAGGER IT, UM, SO THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ALL YOUR EGGS INTO A THREE YEAR COMMITMENT, YOU KNOW, YOU'D STAGGER TO MEET YOUR CASHFLOW NEEDS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT CHART ON IN THIS, BUT, UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT 10 TO 15, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
10 TO 15 WHAT? MILLION, SORRY, APOLOGIZE OF THE 75 MILLION, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND THEN WE ALSO MIGHT DO A SEPARATE ONE FOR THE, THE BOND PROCEEDS THAT ARE SITTING THERE AND STRUCTURE THAT BASED ON THE, UH, PROJECT SCHEDULES.
UM, SO IT'S LAYERED SHORT DURATION, BASICALLY THREE YEARS OR LESS TREASURY BONDS? PRIMARILY.
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PRIMARILY, YEP.UM, AND I'M ASSUMING LIKE MOST PLACES ARE THESE, ARE THESE INSURED OR THEY'RE NOT INSURED OR BECAUSE OF THE, THE SIZE OF THE DOLLAR? HOW DOES THAT WORK? WELL, I, THEY'RE BACKED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, RIGHT? UH, YES.
THE INVESTMENTS ARE BACKED BY THE FULL FAITH AND OBLIGATION OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
UH, THERE'LL BE TREASURY BONDS HELD IN A TRUST ACCOUNT IN, IN THE TOWN'S BEHALF.
SO ISN'T REALLY A, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'RE INVESTING THE PEOPLE'S MONEY, IT'S NOT LIKE IF WE'RE INVESTING IN OUR OWN, THERE ISN'T A TARGET YIELD, RIGHT? IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THE INTEREST RATES ARE BY THE FED AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADJUST AND MOVE WITH THOSE TO WHAT WORKS BEST FOR US.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THEN THE LAST PART OF THIS IS, UH, AND YOU AND I TOUCHED ON BRIEFLY ONE DAY, BUT IS THERE HEDGING IN HERE AT ALL OR IS IT IT'S NOT NEEDED, IS IT? I MEAN OKAY.
YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD NO OR YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
YEAH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I MIGHT BE ASKING CRAZY QUESTIONS, BUT I GUESS IT'S CAUSE I'M MARRIED TO SOMEONE WHO LOOKS AT MONEY
SO FIRST I THOUGHT YOU WERE PUTTING ALL OF IT IN THERE, SO I MAYBE NOT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN 20 MILLION.
IF WE HAVE A HURRICANE AND A HORRIBLE DISASTER.
ARE YOU PUTTING, ARE, ARE YOU PUTTING THAT RESERVE FUND IN THERE? OKAY.
UM, YOU'RE PUTTING MONEY IN THERE THAT, SO TREASURE.
IS THERE SOME, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CALLED A STOP POINT OR IF THERE'S SOME LIKE HOLD IF WE SEE WE'RE STARTING TO LOSE OUR PRINCIPLE, IS THERE SOME, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT OR IS IT BECAUSE WE'RE BUYING TREASURY BONDS? WE CAN, WE JUST MIGHT HAVE A ZERO INCH, WE'RE NOT GONNA LOSE THE PRINCIPLE OF IT.
RIGHT? THE CHANCE OF US LOSING PRINCIPLE IS VERY, VERY SLIM.
YOU NEVER SAY THERE'S NO RISK, BUT I MEAN, FULL FAITH IN CARDIO US GOVERNMENT'S PRETTY GOOD.
UM, THE, THE, THE RISK IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET TO A POINT FOR WHATEVER REASON, UM, WHETHER THERE'S A MAJOR COLLAPSE OR HUGE DISASTER AND WE HAVE TO PULL OUT OF THE BONDS PRIOR TO THE MATURITY, I THINK THERE'S SOME KIND OF PENALTY FEE, WHICH I HAVE.
OH, THAT WAS MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
IF WE HAD TO PULL SOMETHING OUT BECAUSE OF WHATEVER A NATURAL WHATEVER, AND WE NEED MORE THAN OUR RESERVE FUND, HAVE WE NEGOTIATED A PENALTY? P IS THERE A PENALTY FOR PULLING IT? YEAH, I I DON'T THINK THEY DETERMINE THE PENALTY FEE.
I THINK IT'S DETERMINED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT THERE IS ONE, YES, IT WOULD BE DETERMINED REALLY, UH, UH, IF YOU'RE, UH, CASHING IN AT ONE OF THESE TREASURY BONDS PRIOR TO MATURITY, UH, THEY, YOU, YOU WOULD RECEIVE THE, THE FACE VALUE OF, OF THAT BOND.
UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SORT OF IN, UH, IN THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS RIGHT NOW, UM, BECAUSE IT, WHEN INTEREST RATES START TO DECLINE, WHAT'S THEY'RE ANTICIPATED TO DO IN 24, UH, VALUE OF BONDS GO IN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP TO INTEREST RATES.
SO THE VALUE OF THOSE BONDS WILL INCREASE.
UM, AND UH, THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS THAT FROM A LIQUIDITY STANDPOINT IS THAT THE PORTFOLIO AT ANY TIME THAT YOU HAVE THE TRADING DAY PLUS TWO ADDITIONAL DAYS AND ALL THESE ASSETS WOULD BE, CAN BE LIQUIDATED AND PUT BACK INTO THE, THE TOWN'S, UH, INVEST, YOU KNOW, BANKING ACCOUNTS IN, IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCY.
MY QUESTION IS, UM, FIRST CITIZEN IS BUYING BANKS, BUT WONDER IF GADI BANK OF AMERICA TAKES OVER FIRST CITIZEN AND WE DON'T LIKE WHO THEY PUT AS OUR, WHAT IS OUR CLAW BACK ON THAT RIGHT CLAUSE? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN NEGOTIATE AS PART OF THE CONTRACT, YES.
UM, I HAVE ONE MORE THING, BUT I GUESS THAT'S ALL I, I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.
WHAT'S THE F D I C INSURANCE IN BANKS RIGHT NOW? WHAT TO WHAT AMOUNT YOU SAID, BUT TWO $50,000 PER SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.
YOU, SO ARE WE OKAY WITH ALL THE REST OF OUR MONEY AT THESE BANKS? I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.
IF WE'RE REQUIRED TO BE COLLATERALIZED YEAH.
AS PART OF OUR AUDIT STANDARDS, ANYTHING WE HAVE IN THE BANK, THEY HAVE TO HAVE COLLATERALIZED, COLLATERALIZE IT WITH OTHER INSTITUTIONS TO MAKE SURE, SO ANYTHING WE HAVE IN THE BANK IS COLLATERALIZED, BUT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
AND JUST ONE MORE POINT TO MAKE TO EVERYBODY.
I'VE BEEN TALKING TO CHRIS ABOUT THIS FOR A FEW YEARS, WELL, A WHILE NOW.
WHAT THIS WILL HELP US DO IS INSTEAD OF LIKE THE MONEY THAT OUR BONDS AND STUFF THAT WE'RE PAYING INTEREST ON, EVEN THOUGH THIS PROBABLY WON'T TURN OUT TO BE
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A PROFIT, BUT WE'RE, WE'VE GOT THIS MONEY TO USE TO DO OUR PROJECTS AND STUFF, AND THIS WILL OFFSET A HUGE PART OF THE INTEREST THAT WE'RE PAYING TO HAVE THAT MONEY TO DO THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO.IF YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING, THE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF JUST PAYING INTEREST, WE'LL BE COLLECTING INTEREST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UNTIL THAT'S TIME TO SPEND THE MONEY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I LOVE THE FEE CALCULATION.
THAT'S LESS THAN WHAT FOR NONPROFITS, SO THANK YOU.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER, NOTHING ELSE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE, A RESOLUTION TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT AND FIDUCIARY RELATIONSHIP WITH FIRST CITIZENS BANK AND TRUST COMPANY AS AN INVESTMENT ADVISOR TO THE TOWN OF BLACKTON? SO MOVED FOR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? I'M GUESSING WE'LL GET UPDATES AND STATEMENTS AND ALL THOSE FUND THINGS, CHRIS? YES.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATEMENTS.
UM, KEVIN, YOU'RE ONLY UP HERE ONCE.
HE SHOULD, HE SHOULD READ HIS OWN AGENDA ITEM FOR NATALIE.
[2. Consideration of an Ordinance for Certain Amendments to the Town of Bluffton Code of Ordinances Chapter 23]
A CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE FOR CERTAIN AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23, INCLUDING AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLE THREE.
THE APPLICATION PROCESS SECTION 3.2, SECTION 3.14 SECTION 3.17, SECTION 3.18, SECTION 3.1925, ARTICLE FOUR, WHICH IS SECTION 4.4, ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 5, 8, 11, 13, AND 15.
ARTICLE SEVEN, ARTICLE NINE, WHICH IS SECTION 9.2 AND 9.3 9.4 0.1.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS, SPENCER? SO WE, OUR UDO IS A LIVING AND BREATHING DOCUMENT, AND WE'RE FINDING THINGS ALL THE TIME THAT CAN BE CHANGED.
AND THIS IS STAFF KNOWING THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NEED, NEED TO CHANGE.
AND THIS WAS FROM A PARTNER MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL AND, AND IT WAS A LOT.
SO BACK TO, OH, UM, AND THIS HIS FIRST READING.
SO WE'RE GONNA START ON PAGE ONE OF 36 PAGES.
SO SHOULDN'T TAKE US TOO LONG, RIGHT? NO.
FIRST PICTURE IS EIGHT O'CLOCK
WE ARE HERE FOR THE FIRST READING FOR, UH, THE VARIOUS, UH, UDO EDITS THAT YOU REFERENCED.
UM, UH, AS YOU HAD REQUESTED THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PLAN, YOU WANTED TO HAVE AN ANNUAL UPDATE.
SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES, UH, INITIALLY STARTING IN JANUARY WHEN WE HAD OUR JOINT PUBLIC, UM, MEETING WITH, UH, TOWN COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, GOT A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK.
UH, FROM THERE WE WORKED THROUGH, UH, GOING IN, IN FRONT OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, UH, FROM A WORKSHOP DISCUSSION, UH, FOR ITEMS SPECIFICALLY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, SO THAT WAY THEY COULD PROVIDE INPUT.
UH, AND THEN YOU SEE THE FOUR DATES UP HERE WHERE WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH, UM, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WENT, UH, UH, IN FRONT OF THEM AND ULTIMATELY TO YOU.
SO, UH, JUST HITTING THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THESE.
SO AT THE, THAT MARCH, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WE WENT OVER, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR, UH, A, A COFA CERTIFICATE OR APPROPRIATENESS, UH, IN ORDER FOR, UM, CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES OF THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION.
OR THERE'S, UH, ADDITIONS, UH, RELOCATION OR DEMOLITIONS, UH, PROVIDED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OF, UH, CLARITY.
UH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF PUTTING IT.
UM, WE, WE'VE LEARNED FROM SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED TO UPDATE.
UH, ALSO FOR THE DESIGNATION OF A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE, WE HAD HOW TO DESIGNATE IT, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROCESS FOR HOW TO HAVE IT DE-LISTED.
UH, SO WE'VE INCLUDED THAT INFORMATION.
UM, WE'VE HAD A, A LOT OF, UM, UH, FORMATTING ISSUES, TYPOS.
UM, WE'VE, UH, AND I'VE GOT A SLIDE HERE FOR THE MINIMUM FRONT SETBACKS FOR IN THE, UM, UH, THE CORE AND CENTER DISTRICTS, UM, JUST TO BE ABLE TO PUSH SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS BACK.
UH, WE WERE REALIZING THAT A ZERO, UH, A ZERO LOT LINE FOR A FRONT SETBACK WAS JUST NOT APPROPRIATE.
UM, ALSO, UM, REMOVING THAT LARGE BUILDING FOOTPRINT SINCE WE HAD ALREADY REDUCED, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE REDUCED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON BUILDINGS.
UH, THIS WAS NO LONGER NECESSARY.
SO WE REMOVED THAT SECTION COMPLETELY.
UH, OTHER ITEMS IN QUORUM, UH, JUST, UH, CLARITY ON HOW, WHAT IS A CARRIAGE HOUSE, UH, AS WELL AS OUR GO, OUR GARDEN STRUCTURES.
AND THEN HOW TO, UM, TO DETERMINE THE SIZE OF THOSE.
AND THEN, UH, MULTIPLE TERMS SPECIFICALLY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF IT, BUT YOU CAN JUST SEE THAT A LOT OF OUR, UM, BUILDING TYPES IN BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD CORE AND CENTER, UH, WE'VE UPDATED THE FRONT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS ON THOSE.
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JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE, WHAT COLOR IS THAT ON YOUR BIG I NOTE? SO IT'S REPRESENTED BY THE STAR THERE.UM, SO A MAROON, OKAY, I SEE IT.
CARDINAL, UM, AND BROWN IN APRIL.
UM, WE WORKED ON SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR CERTIFICATE OF CONSTRUCTION COMPLIANCE.
AND THIS IS FOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT'S COMING THROUGH, UH, GUARANTEES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INSTALLING THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, OTHER ITEMS INCLUDED OUTDOOR SALES, HOW WE DEFINE THEM, UH, WHAT CONDITIONS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF, UH, UH, UH, QUESTIONING AS TO WHAT WAS WE CLASSIFIED, UH, FOR OUTDOOR SALES, BOTH, UH, IF YOU'RE A RETAIL BUSINESS THAT YOU WANT TO PUT SOME, UM, PRODUCT OUTSIDE VERSUS YOU ARE A BUSINESS THAT SELLS ITEMS OUTSIDE, UH, LIKE A NURSERY, LIKE A PLANT NURSERY.
UH, SO CLARITY THERE, UH, CLARITY FOR, UM, PARKING, UH, WE ELIMINATED THE, UM, PUBLIC PARKING FACILITY REQUIREMENT.
AND WHAT THIS WAS, IS THAT ANY BUSINESS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, COUNT, UH, ANY PUBLIC PARKING WITHIN 500 FEET OF THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THE PROBLEM WAS, IS THAT YOU OVERLAP WITH THAT.
UM, SO WE'D, WE'D, WE'D, UH, CLARIFIED AND REDUCE THAT, UM, REDUCING, UM, UM, THE NUMBER OF, UH, THE PERCENTAGES, UH, FOR COMPACT SPACES, UH, SO THAT WAY YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, A LOT OF ADDITIONAL, UH, PARKING SPACES THAT WERE COMPACT BEFORE YOU MOVE ON.
UM, THE TOP LINE THERE, THE CERTIFICATE OF CONSTRUCTION COMPLIANCE.
HOW DOES THAT GET IMPLEMENTED IN REFERENCE TO, WELL, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE STRENGTHENING THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BUILDING.
YOU, YOU KNOW, I, I BRING THIS UP CUZ YEARS AGO WE ALL KNOW SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT NOBODY EVER WENT TO CHECK ON IT.
SO I, IT ALL LIES WITH THE, THE BUILDER, THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, OF THE PROJECT TO PLACE THE CALL TO THE TOWN.
UM, AND THEN THEY CANNOT GET THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OF A BUILDING UNTIL THEY HAVE THEIR CERTIFICATE OF CONSTRUCTION COMPLIANCE.
AND, AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS IT WAS, IT WAS SUBJECTIVE, UM, IN THE CODE AS TO WHAT WAS NECESSARY, UM, FOR, FOR MEETING THOSE FOR, FOR MEETING THOSE, THOSE, THOSE FINAL, UH, REQUIREMENTS.
SO WE HAVE IT SET UP FOR A TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE OF CONSTRUCTION COMPLIANCE, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT 75%, UM, COMPLETENESS.
SO THE, THE ONUS IS ON THE ENGINEER TO PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW THAT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE MET THAT REQUIREMENT OR THIS ISN'T A WORKSHOP, THIS IS A FORMAL ITEM.
SO DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION OR IF Y'ALL ASK FOR QUESTIONS? DO YOU WANT ME TO LET COUNSEL? SURE.
JUST GET MY, SO MANY OF THEM, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO ASK AS WE GO.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, TO, IF YOU HAVE ANY PREVIOUS ONES, I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK TO THEM AS WELL.
SO THEN IF WE, CAUSE I WAS HOLDING MINE TO THE END.
IF YOU WANNA GO BACK TO THE FIRST ONE, THEN I HAD A QUESTION.
UM, SO ON THE DESIGNATION OF A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE, UH, SECTION 3.25, I DIDN'T SEE THE, UM, THE UPDATED PROCESS AND HOW TO REMOVE A STRUCTURE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON, SO IT IS, I COULD, I I READ THAT IT WAS A PROCESS, BUT I DIDN'T READ THE PROCESS.
I WAS JUST INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE, I READ THE WHOLE PROCESS.
IT IS, SO THE PROCESS IS ALREADY IN THE, UM, IN THE UDO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE JUST SAYING HOW TO, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY THAT YOU COULD DE-LIST IT.
SO, SO WE, WE SHOWS HOW YOU CAN DO IT AND IT'S THE EXACT SAME, IT'S THE SAME INFORMATION THAT'S GONNA BE NECESSARY TO PUT IT ON THE LIST AS IT IS TO REQUEST TO TAKE IT OFF THE LIST.
SO IT'S JUST ADDING THAT STATEMENT TO SAY DE-LIST.
AND IT'S JUST GIVING THAT OPTION BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY DIDN'T, PREVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T PROVIDE THAT.
AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS A, A ISSUE THAT A LOT, UM, OF STRUCTURES ARE THOSE WHO OWN STRUCTURES ARE, ARE DEALING WITH IN TERMS OF HOW TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF REMOVING IT IF IT WASN'T HISTORIC TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME, UM, RENOVATIONS.
AND THEN MY OTHER, UM, ISSUE WAS, OH, YOU'RE NOT THERE AT 5.8 YET.
DON'T HAVE ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE MARCH AMENDMENTS.
UH, SO WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPLIANCE, THE OUTDOOR SALES, AND THEN PARKING.
DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE APRIL QUESTION ON PARKING? OKAY.
REDUCED PERCENTAGE FROM 25 TO 10.
AND THAT'S TO, AND HOW'S THAT GOING TO IMPROVE OUR UDO? UM,
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HOW'S GONNA IMPROVE? UM, THE, THE, WHAT WE'RE FINDING OUT IS THAT THIS 25% REQUIREMENT, IT'S, IT'S TOO HIGH FOR A ALLOWANCE FOR, UM, COMPACT UH, PARKING SPACES.MEANING RIGHT NOW THAT IF YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR PARKING SPACES, UM, YOU CAN HAVE ONE OF THEM THAT IS COMPACT.
AND WHAT WE'RE REALIZING IS THAT IF YOU HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT IS, THAT IS OVER THAT, THAT 25 MARK, WE'LL JUST START WITH 40.
IF YOU HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT'S 40 PARKING SPACES, 10 OF THEM COULD BE A COMPACT CAR SPACE.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT YOU GUYS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT TYPE OF VEHICLES YOU DRIVE.
UM, BUT COMPACT CAR SPACES ARE VERY SMALL AND WE HAVE DIFFICULTIES, UH, WITH PEOPLE GETTING IN THEM.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SAYING INSTEAD OF HAVING 10 OF THEM, THAT COULD BE THAT COMPACT SPACE.
WE'RE NOW SAYING THAT YOU COULD HAVE FOUR OF THEM THAT COULD BE A COMPACT SPACE.
SO YOU'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT COMPACT, COMPACT SPACES.
YEAH, JUST, JUST THE COMPACT SPACES.
I'M LIKE, WHAT? IT'S ONLY, THAT ONLY PERTAINS TO COMPACT.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T READ ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS.
AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM IS THAT, UM, WE'RE ELIMINATING THE ALLOWANCE TO USE AS GOLF CART SPACES TO MEET YOUR COMPACT SPACES.
CUZ RIGHT NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT YOU COULD, AGAIN, LET'S GO BACK TO THE, THE 40 PARKING SPACES.
10 OF THEM COULD BE A COMPACT.
WELL, THOSE 10 COULD ALSO BE GOLF CART PARKING.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T COM YOU CAN'T SAY YOU CAN HAVE A GOLF CART PARKING SPACE TO MEET YOUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
YOU CAN STILL HAVE GOLF CART PARKING SPACES, JUST NOT TO MEET THOSE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
UH, SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS IN APRIL, UM, WE'RE DEALING WITH, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ILLEGAL NONCONFORMITIES.
WE ALREADY HAVE IT SET UP, UH, FOR, UM, IT WAS TO, IN THE CODE IT SAYS THAT THE UDO ADMINISTRATOR WILL DETERMINE IF THERE'S AN ILLEGAL NONCONFORMITY.
UM, WELL, LEGAL NONCONFORMITIES, IF THEY'RE THERE, THEY ALREADY EXIST.
WE DON'T NEED THE UDO ADMINISTRATOR TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, UM, AMENDMENTS TO THE DEFINITIONS FOR FAMILY.
UM, AND AT THIS ONE, UH, THIS IS A, A FEDERAL, UH, REGULATED, UH, DEFINITION.
UH, TERRY CAN, CAN CHIME IN IF HE NEEDS TO.
THIS IS, THIS IS, UM, COMPLIMENTS OF WASHINGTON.
SO, UM, SO WE'RE UPDATING OUR DOCUMENT TO BE CONSISTENT.
UM, AND THEN THE, UH, JUST A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS.
ANY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING ON THIS PAGE? COUNSEL? I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT'S SAYING, BUT, UM,
ANYTHING FROM THIS SIDE, IF IT'S FEDERAL JUST FOR LAW, I GUESS WE GOTTA HAVE IT, SO.
UM, NEXT OFF, UM, IN MAY, WE, WE'VE FOCUSED ON THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS IN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UM, AND WE'RE JUST CLARIFYING THE LANGUAGE TO SAY THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS CLEARLY ESTABLISHES THE LAND DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THINGS, SO IT'S CLEAR AS TO WHAT IS APPROVED.
AND THEN THE, THE, UH, COFA IS THEN APPROVED ON TOP OF THAT, UM, LAND DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, A LOT OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS IN THE LOT AND BUILDING STANDARDS.
UH, AND THEN BASED OFF OF PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, WE'VE UH, LOOKED TO REMOVE THAT LARGE LOT, TYPE IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UM, AND THEN ADJUST SOME OF THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, REDUCTIONS OF HEIGHT.
AND A LOT OF THOSE ITEMS ARE FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE OF OUR LAND USE PLAN IS CALLING FOR PROJECTS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, STAYING IN THAT THREE STORY, FOUR STORY AREA.
AND THEN OUR UDO HAS, UH, AREAS WHERE IT SAYS FIVE STORIES.
I HAD SOMETHING ON, ON THIS ONE.
UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, SECTION, I WANTED TO COMMEND YOUR, UM, DEPARTMENT, HEATHER AND KEVIN, YOU GUYS WITH IDENTIFYING, UM, THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DESIGNATION IN THE, THE, UM, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY TO THE BUCK ALLEN VILLE AREA AFTER THE, UM, THAT PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED.
BEING ABLE TO PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE DEFINITELY, UM, HELPS TO KEEP THAT, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN WITHIN THE, THE, UH, INTENDED PLAN, UM, FOR THAT AREA.
ARE THERE OTHER EXAMPLES, UM, LIKE THAT, THAT EXIST IN OUR UDO THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO EASILY IDENTIFY WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A LARGER SCALE PROJECT THAT WOULD TRIGGER YOU TO BE LIKE, OH WOW, THAT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UPDATED
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE IS UNIQUE.
SOMETIMES WE, WE CAN SEE IT AHEAD OF TIME.
WE TRY TO CATCH IT UN UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES
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THEY ARE REACTIVE, LIKE THIS EXAMPLE RIGHT HERE.UH, WHEREAS IT WAS IN THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND IT ALLOWED FOR THAT HIGHER, HIGHER STORIES.
UM, AND HAD THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BUILDINGS BROUGHT UP CLOSER TO THE FRONT AND FROM A MASS AND SCALE WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
SO WE WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT MOVING FORWARD.
AND THEN ON THE, UH, SETBACK, I SEE THAT WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE, UH, REAR YARD SETBACK.
I HAD A, A QUESTION WHILE I SAW THAT ON THE FRONT.
UM, YARD SETBACKS THAT ARE IN THE OLD TOWN DISTRICT, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, PARTICULARLY WITH PROJECTS LIKE THE ONE ON, UH, GERARD, HAVE WE LOOKED TO CHANGE THOSE AS WELL? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A CONCERN THAT, UM, THERE REALLY IS NO DELINEATION FROM WHERE THAT ROAD MEETS TO LIKE A PERSON'S FRONT YARD.
IT'S LIKE YOU GO FROM, IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE, TO THE ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WITH THAT, CAN WE LOOK AT THAT CONSIDERED LARGE MIS MIXED USE? NO, NO.
SHE, SHE, SHE KIND OF JUMPED BACK.
CAN SHE BACKWARDS REAL QUICK TO THE AMENDMENTS? I, I, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
UM, I, I AND I, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT FOR SECOND READING, UM, TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT IT'S, IT'S CONSISTENT AS WELL.
IT WAS, UH, APRIL I SAW THAT TOO.
AND YOU EVEN ACTUALLY SAID, I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU'RE PUSHING THE FRONT BACK.
I, I THOUGHT THAT YOU SAID THAT ALL.
YES, WE'RE PUSHING THE FRONT SETBACKS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD CORE AND NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, CENTER DISTRICTS.
BUT WHY AREN'T WE LOOKING AT, I GUESS, AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO TAKE OVER YOUR QUESTION, BUT WHY, WHY JUST THERE AND YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN WE DID THE RIVER RIVERFRONT EDGE ON THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE THING, ARE YOU TESTING IT TO SEE IF YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK TO US OR SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE LOOK AT THE LOTS IN OTHER DISTRICTS OR BOTH OF THOSE? ACTUALLY FOR, FOR WHAT WE DID ON RIVERFRONT EDGE OF SQUASHING AND RAISING LOT TYPES, I DON'T KNOW.
CUR CURRENTLY, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL DISTRICT, UM, ALL OF THE BUILDING TYPES THAT ARE ALLOWED ARE, ARE AT 10 TO, TO EITHER 15, 20 OR 25.
SO THEY'RE ALREADY CONSISTENTLY AT THAT MINIMUM OF 10 FOOT SETBACK.
SO THESE OTHER TWO DISTRICTS HAVE IT AT ZERO.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THESE, THE TWO DISTRICTS, THE CORE AND THE CENTER TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL.
THE FOLLOW UP ON BRIDGET'S, JUST USING A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE ON GERARD, WAS THAT SOMETHING THE BUILDER WANTED TO DO BECAUSE THE ONLY PLACE HE COULD PUT HIS GARAGE WAS IN THE BACK? YOUR, YES.
ALL, ALL GARAGES MUST BE IN THE REAR OR SET BACK FROM THE, THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
SO THEY WERE ALLOWED CURRENTLY TO GO ALMOST TWO FEET, THREE FEET.
THERE WASN'T A MINIMUM OF 10 FEET FROM THE FRONT.
BUT NOW YOU'RE SAYING, SO THE, THAT FRONT SETBACK, UM, IN THAT AREA IS IT'S THE BUILDING.
SO YOU HAVE THE, THE ACTUAL, THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN YOU HAVE A PORCH.
SO THAT 10 FOOT IS TYPICALLY AT THE, THE STRUCTURE ITSELF AND YOUR PORCH CAN GO IN FRONT OF THAT.
SO WE DO ALLOW FOR PORCHES IN FRONT OF THAT FRONT SETBACK.
SO TECHNICALLY THE STEPS COMING OFF THE FRONT PORCH CAN BE IN THE, ON THE EDGE OF THE ROAD OF THEIR LOT ALMOST WITHIN, OR THEIR PROPERTY LINE OF THEIR LOT LINE UP TO THREE FEET.
SO THREE, THREE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE IS WHERE THE STEPS COULD START.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO, TO, TO RE RECONSIDER A LOOK AT CUZ THAT'S WAY TOO CLOSE.
WELL WE HAD DONE A RIDE AROUND, UM, PAST LEADER PEOPLE AND WE DID A, HEATHER, YOU WERE WITH US AND WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHY IS EVERYTHING SO CLOSE AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE CODE.
AND REALLY TO PUSH IT BACK, YOU FEEL MORE LIKE BLUFFTON NOT EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY RESIDENTIALLY.
I KNOW THAT TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FEEL, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WALKING OFF YOUR STEP AND YEAH.
YOU'RE FALLING ONTO THE SIDEWALK, REALLY.
SO WHAT WE CAN DO FROM A STAFF LEVEL IS WE'LL GO BACK BETWEEN SECOND READING AND LOOK AT MAYBE HAVING SOME REQUIREMENT FOR WHERE STEPS IN A PANCE IS, AS WE CALL THEM.
UH, HOW, HOW CLOSE THEY COULD BE RIGHT TO THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I MEAN, AT THAT POINT IT MIGHT, WHAT THAT DOES IS, I MEAN, IT, SOME PORCHES MIGHT BE SMALLER THAN OTHERS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IF MAYBE THERE'S A FIVE FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE AND WHERE STEPS ARE ALLOWED TO START LIKE FIVE FEET AND, AND THEN, THEN YOU CAN GO BACK FROM THERE, RIGHT? WELL, I WOULD ESPECIALLY, UM, NO, NO, NO.
I WOULD SAY ESPECIALLY WITH, UM, AN AREA UNIQUE LIKE THAT, THAT TRADITIONALLY THAT ROAD SHOULD BE
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A ONE WAY.UM, BUT IT'S USED OFTEN AS A TWO-WAY.
AND TO HAVE THAT AND THE, UM, STEPS OF SOMEONE'S FRONT PORCH SO CLOSE, IT'S JUST, IT BECOMES A SAFETY HAZARD CONCERN FOR ME TOO.
YOU CAN LOOK AT GERARD, YOU CAN LOOK AT LAWRENCE.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE POSSIBLY MORE PEOPLE TO SIDE LOAD OFF THE PORCH MM-HMM.
I LIKE YOUR IDEA ABOUT THE PORCH GOING BACK, JUST HAVING THAT CHANGE.
THAT'S, YES, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT.
SO WE'RE MOVING BACK TO JUNE, RIGHT? THAT MAY, NO, YES MA'AM.
UH, FOR JUNE WE HAD A COUPLE OF ITEMS DEAL JUST DEALING WITH PUBLIC NOTICES.
UH, JUST MAKING SURE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, UM, UH, NO LONGER REQUIRING A, THE A, UM, NEWSPAPER NOTICE FOR A DEMOLITION WHEN THE SITE IS BEING POSTED.
SO, UM, JUST MINOR ITEMS. UH, WE DID GO THROUGH RICHARDSON JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE WERE, UH, THAT EVERYTHING WAS OKAY ON THE STATE LEVEL WITH THAT.
UM, SOME FOR THE SIGNS WE HAD A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WERE JUST, UM, INADVERTENTLY MISSED.
UH, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT WE CLARIFIED WHAT WAS, UH, CONSIDERED PROHIBITED SIGNS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT LIKE FLUTTER SIGNS AND FEATHER SIGNS WERE NOT, THEY WERE NOT SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED, UH, IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND, UM, PEOPLE HAVE KIND OF QUESTIONED US ON THOSE AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE? OKAY.
OH, THE ONE THING AND THE FLAG.
THE FEATHER ONES ARE THE ONES I LIKE ON A POLE AND THEY KIND OF HANG OFF OF THAT.
I'D GO AND LET THEM KNOW THAT'S OKAY.
UM, AND THEN ALSO JUST MAKING SURE THAT, UM, CERTAIN SIGNS ARE EXEMPT FROM, UH, NEEDING A SIGN PERMIT, A CONSTRUCTION SIGN, REAL ESTATE SIGNS AND CAMPAIGN SIGNS.
JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR.
SO THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FLAGS? NO.
BUT THE POLE WITH THE FUNKY FLAG, THAT'S WHAT'S CALLED A FLUTTER OR YES.
I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT, BUT OKAY.
I TALKING ABOUT THERE'S A WHOLE WORLD OF SIGNS.
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT FLAGS ON PORCHES.
UM, SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS INCLUDED, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY ADDING A NEW HOUSING TYPE.
IT'S CALLED THE MEDIUM HOUSING TYPE.
UH, WE'RE HAVING, UM, CONCERNS WHERE INDIVIDUALS WERE COMING UP WITH, UM, A HOUSING TYPE AND THERE'S TONS OF HOUSING TYPES OUT THERE.
UM, AND WE NEEDED TO ADD ONE THAT, UH, PROVIDED A FOR, FOR THIS IS FOR RESIDENTIAL BUILDING TYPES.
IN THAT ONE TO TWO STORIES, UH, WE WERE, WE WERE JUST LACKING AN AREA SO THAT WAY PEOPLE COULD HAVE THESE ONE AND A HALF STORY HOUSES.
AND WE WERE, WE WERE CLASSIFYING THEM AS ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPES.
SO WE WANTED TO BRING IT IN AND ACTUALLY, UM, CLARIFY WHAT TYPE OF OF HOUSE THAT, UH, WE WERE, WE, WERE WE REFERENCING, UM, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPES, THAT MIDDLE PICTURE IS ON GERARD STREET AND THE POST ON THOSE STEPS IS ON THE SIDEWALK.
SO IS THE SIDEWALK ON THEIR PROPERTY LINE? I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THAT IS A GOOD, THAT IS GOOD FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AS TO THEIR CONCERN.
WELL THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON IT, BUT IT'S COMING OUT RIGHT OUT TO IT.
BUT, AND ALSO WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHERE THAT RIGHT OF WAY LINE IS.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT IS, BUT I UNDERSTAND.
WHAT WOULD MY HOUSE BE NOW CUZ IT'S, THERE'S NO BUILDING TYPE FOR A TWO-STORY HOUSE WITH THE GARAGE PART OF THE HOUSE.
AND I COUNTED TODAY THEY'RE 10 LIKE THAT IN OLD TOWN.
WHAT IS A BUILDING TYPE WHEN A HOUSE, WHEN WE THINK THE HOUSE JUST HAS AN ATTACHED GARAGE WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING TYPES, I THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THOSE TWO.
IF THEY'RE 10 THAT I FOUND, THE MORE WHAT GOT IT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED RIGHT NOW? AN ATTACHED CARRIAGE HOUSE.
UM, THE, THE MORE CONVENTIONAL TYPE OF ATTACHED GARAGES, BUT SUCH AS YOURS.
I THINK IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, AND I'LL JUST CLOSES MINE, I THINK THAT SCRATCHES EVERYONE'S HEAD WHEN THEY THINK THAT A GARAGE IS PART OF YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A ROOM OVER IT IS CALLED AN ATTACHED CARRIAGE HOUSE.
A GARAGE IS A GARAGE AND A CARRIAGE HOUSE IS A CARRIAGE HOUSE.
ANYWAY, JUST A QUESTION WHY YOU HAVE IT, BECAUSE WHEN I READ THAT, I THOUGHT MAYBE THE MEDIUM HOUSE IS NOW MY HOUSE TYPE, BUT IT'S NOT.
I'LL LOOK INTO IT AND WE'LL, UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET, UM, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT AND IF IT'S NECESSARY, PROVIDE KIND OF THAT BUILDING TYPE AS WELL.
AND WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING, WHAT IS, I MEAN, GROWING UP IN A SMALL TOWN, YOUR GARAGE IS PART OF
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YOUR HOUSE.WHAT IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE WITH A GARAGE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THE GARAGE AND IT'S ALL IN ONE STRUCTURE? YES.
THAT'S WHAT IS THAT, IS THAT AN UNCONVENTIONAL BUILDING? WELL, THAT'S THAT AGAIN, WE CLASSIFY THAT AS AS THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
SO IT'S AN ATTACHED CARRIAGE HOUSE.
IT'S THE, THE, THE CARRIAGE HOUSE CAN BE EITHER A GARAGE OR IT CAN BE AN APARTMENT, IT CAN BE TWO-STORY, IT CAN BE ONE STORY.
UM, BUT THAT'S HOW, IT'S AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
SO THINK THROUGH THAT, I THINK.
FORM BASE CODE, HAS IT BEEN CALLED THAT? BECAUSE A GARAGE IN THEORY COULD BE CONVERTED OR SOMETHING.
WHAT, WHAT PRESENTED IT TO BE CALLED THAT? I WANT, WHAT'S THAT BE CALLED? SOMETHING CARRIAGE HOUSE.
SO WE HAD TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
BUT YOU'RE GETTING TO THE WORLD OF TODAY AND WE SAW IT WITH THE RIVERFRONT WHERE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE NOW NEED TO EXPAND OUT OF NECESSITY BECAUSE THEY'RE OLDER MM-HMM.
BUT THEN WE RESTRICTED THEM FROM EVER ADDING ON TO BRING A BEDROOM DOWN.
AND, AND MOST OF THE HOMES LIKE THAT WERE PRE 2019 96.
REALLY? SO, AND I, AND I LITERALLY READ THROUGH OLD TOWN AND I FOUND, AND I FOUND 10 AND I DIDN'T WORK SO HARD TO DO IT.
AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE NONCONFORMING ISSUE.
I THINK WE GOTTA FIGURE IT OUT FOR TAKE ME OUT OF IT.
SO I'M TRYING TO THINK, YOUR HOUSE HAS A GARAGE.
BUT THAT'S CALLED A CARRIAGE HOUSE, RIGHT? NO, I GET THAT TODAY.
UM, THE OTHER ITEM WAS TO, UM, INCREASE THE SIDE SETBACKS ON A LOT OF THE BUILDING TYPES FROM FIVE FEET TO EIGHT FEET.
JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE ON THE SIDES.
THAT'S YOU GONNA HURT, YOU GONNA HURT SOME, UM, PROPERTIES.
THAT'S ALREADY SOME WAYS, UM, THEY ALREADY HAVE A PLOT OR THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR, THEIR MINDS THAT THEY CAN FILL THE HOUSE CAUSE THEY, IT'S PLOTTED THAT WAY.
SO IT'S ALREADY A STRUGGLE FOR SOME, SOME RESIDENTS TO, TO BUILD THAT HOUSE.
AND IF YOU INCREASE THAT YOU WANT, THEY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BUILD.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNED ME.
EVEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MEDIUM HOUSE RIGHT HERE, THE PART OF THAT PORCH IS ON THE, ON THE SIDEWALK.
UM, WE TRY TO MAKE BLUFFTON A WALKABLE, ESPECIALLY OLD TOWN, A WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
UM, WHEN I LOOK AT PLACES IN, UH, IN CITIES LIKE SAVANNAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY COULD, YOU ALMOST WALK RIGHT ON YOUR SIDEWALK WITHIN SOMEBODY'S STEP.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M, I WISH MAYBE CHANGING THAT, THAT SIDE SETBACK, UM, IS GOING TO HURT SOME SMALLER PROPERTY OWNERS.
IS THAT THREE FOOT WOULD YES SIR.
NO, NO, HE SAID FROM FIVE, YEAH, THE THREE, FIVE TO EIGHT.
SO IT'S A THREE FOOT DIFFERENCE.
THAT MIGHT MAKE HIM FEEL SIX SIX.
IF I COULD JUST, WELL, YOU KNOW, SIX FOOT OVERALL THREE FEET ON EACH SIDE.
IS THERE A REASON IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER DISTRICT.
SO I'VE GONE BACK, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE BROWN RIGHT THERE.
SO ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW ARE JUST THESE, FOR THE FIVE TO EIGHT SIDE SETBACK IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE WHAT'S IN THE BROWN THERE WITH THAT, THE RED STAR HELP ME, IS THAT BLACK LINE? SO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IS STILL THAT'S CALHOUN.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, WHERE'S CALHOUN? CALHOUN HERE? UM, BRIDGE HERE.
SO WE'RE PUSHING THEM BACK AND WE'RE BRINGING THEM IN.
WE'RE GONNA FORCE TWO STORIES.
WE'RE GONNA FORCE THEM INTO A DRIVEWAY WITHIN THAT NEW SETBACK.
AND WE LIMITED THE LOT SIZE A FEW YEARS AGO, DIDN'T WE? YES, WE DID.
BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME NONCONFORMING THIRTIES AND FORTIES OUT THERE.
IS THERE PURPOSE TO MAKE IT HARDER TO BUILD A ONE STORY? I MEAN, SIX FEET IS A, WELL TYPICALLY A BATHROOM.
UH, WE HAVE DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES THAT ARE ONE STORY.
IT'S MAINLY THE COTTAGE, WHICH IS A SMALLER, SMALLER PRODUCT.
UM, IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, YOUR TYPICAL, UM, RANCH STYLE HOME, UH, WHAT YOU WOULD THINK OF THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE, IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT HERE.
UM, SO THE, THE BIGGER, THE BIGGER THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.
UM, BUT THEN THEY ALSO START TO
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PUT, UM, SERVICE YARDS ON, ON THE SIDE OF THEIR HOUSE.SO THEIR SERVICE YARD IS NOW GOING PRETTY MUCH THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IT TO THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
UH, WE'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH STORMWATER WHERE, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, WATER FLOW IN BETWEEN HOUSES, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CLOSER IT IS, THE NARROW NARROWER IT IS FOR, FOR WATER TO GET THROUGH.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO SPACE THAT OUT.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS IN PLAY AS TO WHY WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, WIDE WIDEN THE SPACE IN BETWEEN HOMES.
SO I, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO AN EXAMPLE, WHICH I, I, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I'M FINE IF YOU WANNA CHANGE IT, BUT I LOOK AT FRANKIE COBURN'S PROPERTY AND THE PROMENADE.
AND THE PROMENADE PROBABLY HAD A THREE, A FIVE FOOT.
IT WAS A SMALL SETBACK, BUT BY THE TIME HIS ROOF CAME OFF, HIS ROOF EXTENDED TWO FEET AND THE RAINWATER WENT INTO FRANKIE'S, HE SAYS, WENT OVER INTO HIS BUILDING, WHICH CAUSED HIS BUILDING TO BASICALLY MILDEW AND, AND ROT FROM WITHIN BECAUSE THE RAINWATER, WHILE THE THE ROOF WAS ON THE PROMENADE PROPERTY LINE, IT CAME RIGHT TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO BY PUSHING IT THREE MORE FEET, IS THAT GONNA STOP THAT? OR WOULD, WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER TO SAY, YOU KNOW, JUST ANYTHING THAT STICKS OUT HAS TO BE, INSTEAD OF EIGHT FEET, FIVE FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE ALLOWING SERVICE YARDS TO BE BUILT.
LESS DIRT, THE LESS PLACE YOU HAVE FOR STORMWATER TO EVEN RUN.
SO NOT ONLY IS IT GONNA HAVE TO RUN DOWN A, A NARROWER DITCH, SO TO SPEAK, OR A NARROWER SPACE, BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IT GOES A LOT FASTER.
SO THEREFORE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, IT'S GONNA GO FARTHER AND, AND I, I MEAN THE MORE AND ELIMINATE, ELIMINATE THE SIDE YARD, WELL, IF YOU'VE GOT TWO ROOFS COMING LIKE THIS AND YOU DON'T HAVE ABOUT 12 FEET IN BETWEEN THEM, YOU DON'T HAVE, HOW DID YOU MEASURE FROM THE ROOF? THE ONE THAT HAS THAT SMALL FOOTPRINT WOULD RATHER HAVE A HOUSE THAN THE SIDE YARD.
SO YOU ELIMINATE THE SIDE YARD.
IF YOU WANT YOUR HOUSE, THEN YOU CAN'T, WITH THIS FOOTPRINT, YOU CAN'T HAVE A SIDE YARD.
IF YOU ELIMINATE THIS THING OF HOUSE YOU WANT, WHEN IT'S ON THE PROPERTY, THE HOUSE WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
I'M TRYING TO THINKING FOR THOSE DISTRICTS, WHICH THOSE DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN DIVVIED UP PRETTY DARN.
AND IF I, IF I, IF I COULD, UM, SO THERE ARE 36 PAGES, SO I'VE BEEN VERY HIGH LEVEL ON ALL OF THESE.
SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE ACTUALLY PULLED THAT SPECIFIC SECTION SO WE CAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT WHAT'S IN BLACK PRINT RIGHT NOW IS THE EXISTING TEXT THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE, THE CELLS WHERE WE'RE MAKING, UH, PROPOSED CHANGES AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, BOTH INCLUDING THAT MEDIUM HOUSE TYPE HERE, BUT THEN THE SIDE SETBACKS, WE'RE LOOKING AT ADJUSTING THAT 1, 2, 3, 4 BUILDING TYPES.
WE'RE ADJUSTING THE, THAT FIVE FOOT SIDE SETBACK TO EIGHT FEET.
SO NARROW DOWN FROM, YOU KNOW, FIVE ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WE'RE FOCUSED ON ONE DISTRICT THAT'S THE CENTER, THAT'S THE CALHOUN BRIDGE BOUNDARY SQUARE.
AND THEN OF THAT, ANY BUILDING TYPES THAT ARE ALLOWED, WHICH ARE LISTED HERE, THE CELLS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED, WE'RE PROPOSING THE CHANGE FOR THOSE SPECIFIC BUILDING TYPES.
BUT DID YOU TAKE, DO THE HOMEWORK MAYBE OF LOOKING AT WITHIN THAT, I BET WE HAVE A DOZEN, 40 FOOT LOTS IN THERE.
WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEBODY OWNS A 30 OR 40 FOOT LOT THAT WAS SUBDIVIDED LONG AGO AND NOW IT'S GONNA HAVE TO HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT SETBACK? IS THERE SOME ADMINISTRATOR OVERSIGHT TO THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS? OR IS THIS I'M TRYING TO, CUZ WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH OUR UDO.
AND, AND, AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE, IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN AND PROPOSE LIKE, HEY, I NEED A, A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR A FIVE FOOT BECAUSE MY LOT WAS ALREADY, UH, ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO YOU CHANGING THE CODE, IT'S NOT MY FAULT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT A, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M, I'M DRAWING BLANK ON THE, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO SAY SEND 'EM TO BOARD ZONING APPEALS CUZ IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT AND NOW WE'RE MAKING 'EM TO DO ONE MORE STEP.
AND IT'S, IT'S, I KNOW THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND, AND IT'S DIFFICULT FOR
UM, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO TRY TO ADJUST THESE YES, THERE ARE LOTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE SMALLER THAN THAT 50 FOOT, UM, MINIMUM LOT WIDTH.
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UM, AND, AND THEY COULD COME IN FOR, TO REQUEST A VARIANCE, UM, IN ORDER TO, CUZ IT'S AN UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP, SOMETHING THAT WAS CREATED OUT OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONTROL AND THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY GET A, UM, A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR THAT.DO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE, AND YOU MENTIONED THIS, DO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE 30 FOOT LOTS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA? THAT IS WHERE THE BEGINNING OF SUBDIVIDING WENT.
SO THAT, THAT'S GIVING YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WAS 40.
UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG WITH IT.
LIKE, AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT LEFT IN THERE, BUT I DO THINK THERE'LL BE A SITUATION AND THEN WE'RE GONNA LIKE, OH, WE NOW WE KNOW BETTER.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK AHEAD OF IT.
I COULD LOOK BEFORE SECOND READING AND LET YOU KNOW.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW PROFOUND OF AN ISSUE IT TRULY MAY BE.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE WERE HAVING REQUESTS FOR THE SMALLER LOSS, WHICH IS WHY WE MINI, YOU KNOW, MADE THE 50 FOOT MINIMUM IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TO STEAL THE THIRTIES OUT THERE OR NOT.
I, I'VE WITNESSED, UM, I'LL A COUPLE OF PROJECTS MYSELF THAT THIS WOULD CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH.
SO I THINK IF IT'S NOT HER, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY, WHAT'S THE, WHY ARE WE CAUSING IT AND LET'S JUST SURE.
WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL COME BACK TO US AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHY I THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO DO EIGHT FOOT SETBACKS AND GIVE US REAL EXAMPLES OF IT.
I SEE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT UNIFORM.
WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND DEFINITELY HAVE IT BACK IN FRONT OF YOU AND WE'LL TALK WITH THE TOWN MANAGER, UM, TO, TO GIVE HIM AN UPDATE AND MAYBE, UM, BE ABLE TO, UH, DISCUSS WITH YOU AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME, THE SAME WAVELENGTH.
UH, AND WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION UPDATED.
I MEAN, RED HAS SOME THOUGHTS OF ONE.
MAYBE Y'ALL RIDE WITH HIM AND GIVE HIM THE WHAT LOOK AT WHAT HE'S THINKING AND VICE VERSA AND LET'S SAY YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO IS OUR FAULT TO ALL OF THIS WE WOULD APPROVE, WE WOULD POSSIBLY VOTE ON WITH NO CON NO EXCEPTIONS AND THEN NO, IT COULD BE CHANGED BY SECOND READING IF, OKAY.
UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS ALL OF THE, THE, THE, THE TEXT AMENDMENTS BOILED DOWN THE 36 PAGES, UH, INTO THOSE FEW SLIDES.
UM, SO, UM, WE HAD THE REVIEW CRITERIA.
IT MET ALL THE REVIEW CRITERIA, UM, AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY DID RECOMMEND ON THE FOUR DIFFERENT MEETINGS, UH, TO APPROVE, UM, THE, THE REVISIONS THAT THEY HAD NOTED WERE IN THE STAFF REPORT AND HAD, HAD BEEN UPDATED WITH THOSE TEXTS AS WELL.
UM, YOUR E UH, THIS EVENING, UH, YOU HAVE THE ACTION TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, CONDITIONS OR AMENDMENTS OR TO DENY THE REQUEST.
UM, FROM A A STEP STANDPOINT, WE HAVE IT, UH, SCHEDULED.
UM, OBVIOUSLY FIRST READING THIS EVENING, UH, FINAL READING IN AUGUST, UM, IF NECESSARY WITH UH, DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TOWN MANAGER OR EXCUSE ME, TOWN MANAGER, UM, IF WE NEED TO, UH, MOVE THAT, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD, UM, BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THIS BACK IN FRONT OF YOU IN AUGUST FOR A SECOND READING.
UM, WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
IF NOT, I DO HAVE A PROPOSED, UH, MOTION FOR YOU.
SO THE SECOND WAS WITHIN, AND YOU'RE SAYING, AND AS I LOOKED AT STEVEN, IF WE'RE ALL MA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, AND I WROTE THREE DIFFERENT ITEMS, SHOULD WE PASS THIS KNOWING YOU HAVE THOSE CONCERNS TO MAKE CHANGES BEFORE SECOND READING AND THE ITEMS THAT I'VE BEEN WRITING DOWN WAS, NUMBER ONE WAS DEALING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, UH, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING STEPS, UM, AND WHAT WE CALL APPURTENANCES.
UH, SO WHAT WE'LL LOOK TO DO IS TO MAYBE ADJUST AND NOT JUST THERE, BUT OTHER PLACES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PUSHING THINGS BACK AWAY FROM THE THE SIDEWALK.
UM, LOOK AT UH, MORE CONVENTION, THE CONVENTIONAL BUILDING TYPE, UM, IN REFERENCE TO YOUR HOME, WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WITH, UM, HOUSES THAT, EXISTING HOUSES THAT HAVE GARAGES AND HOW WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THOSE.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THE, THE SIDE SETBACK ITEM, UM, THAT WE CAN WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT NOT JUST FOR THAT ONE SPECIFIC DISTRICT, UM, BUT WE'LL LOOK AT THE OTHER DISTRICTS AS WELL TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT THROUGH THERE.
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BACK AT SECOND READING AND ANY OF THOSE ITEMS YOU STILL FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH, YOU CAN ALWAYS REMOVE THEM PRIOR TO OR, OR VOTE TO APPROVE IT WITH THOSE EXCLUDED DURING SECOND READING.SO, SO OUR HOMEWORK TO YOU WOULD BE TRY TO GET WITH YOU ON IDEAS OF PLACES WHERE WE'RE CONCERNED.
I WILL FIND LOT DIMENSIONS TO SEE HOW MANY VACANT LOTS IN THAT DISTRICT ARE LESS THAN 50.
I CAN DO THAT EASY AND I KNOW Y'ALL CAN TOO, BUT YOU GOT A LOT OF WRITING TO DO.
UM, THAT WHAT Y'ALL UNDERSTAND.
UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS RIVERFRONT THING.
ARE WE LOOKING WITH, LARRY HAD MENTIONED ONE DAY ABOUT WE SHOULD LOOK AT LOT SIZE WITH THIS 2000 MINIMUM HEATED SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WE CHANGED IT AT THE RIVERFRONT EDGE.
IS THAT SOMETHING Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT DOWN THE ROAD LIKE IN JANUARY OR WHATEVER TO EXTEND THAT TO OTHER DISTRICTS BECAUSE IT'S WORKING WELL? OR ARE YOU WAITING ON US TO HAVE SOMEONE FUSS ABOUT THIS WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A FACE FOOTPRINT OF 2,500 SQUARE FEET, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CHANGE THAT? CAUSE I THINK IN A LOT OF THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, REALLY ALL THROUGH OLD TOWN YOU SEE LARGER PARCELS THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY NEED TO DO THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD.
IT'S DEFINITELY NEW FOR HERE, BUT YEAH.
AND IF IT'S SUITABLE FOR THE WATERFRONT LOTS, THEN IT SHOULD BE SUITABLE FOR ANYWHERE.
THAT'S, I MEAN THAT'S THE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING TO ADJUST? NOT TONIGHT, I'M JUST ASKING.
I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER, I DON'T THINK THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, SOMETHING TOTALLY I CAN GO WITH THIS.
TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE THE STRAP PLAN.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN DO ANOTHER JOINT MEETING IN JANUARY AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON FLUSHING THAT OUT.
I THINK IT WAS A GOOD MEETING.
IT WASN'T HERE, BUT YEAH, IT WAS.
AND THAT'S AN ITEM THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY, UM, THAT'LL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON IT.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN TALK OFFLINE.
IS THERE A 2000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, FOOTPRINT LIMIT FOOTPRINT IN ALL? THEY'RE DIFFERENT DISTRICT OR JUST IT DEPENDS.
BUILDING, YES, IT DEPENDS ON THE BUILDING TYPE, THE TYPE OF BUILDING THAT ALLOWS FOR THE, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING.
LIKE A ONE STORY HOUSE BUILDING NO MATTER WHAT IT'S BUILT ON.
IF A MEDIUM HOUSE IS 2000 SQUARE FEET, CAN THEY, WHAT IS THEIR MAXIMUM HEATED FOOTPRINT FOR THEIR FIRST FLOOR ON THIS NEW BUILDING TYPE? IF YOU ONLY WANNA BUILD A ONE STORY HOUSE, HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY, IT DEPENDS AGAIN ON YOUR BUILDING TYPE.
SO YOU HAVE TO FIT, REMEMBER, BECAUSE WE DO THE FORM BASED CODE, IT HAS TO FIT IN THE BOX.
SO IF YOU'RE LOTS A CERTAIN WIDTH, THEN YOU CAN BUILD A CERTAIN STYLE HOUSE.
SO IT GETS A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN YOU JUST WANNA DO A SINGLE STOREHOUSE.
WE LOOKED AT THE, UM, THE RIVERFRONT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE WAY WE APPROACHED IT WAS WE SAW THAT THE SCALE OF THE HOUSES AND THE SIZE OF THE LOTS JUSTIFIED GIVING THEM A LITTLE LENIENCY TO GO UP IN FOOTAGE.
SO REALLY THIS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
WHAT WE DID IS WE ALLOWED THEM TO KIND OF SQUASH IT DOWN, GO OUT, IS THEY WERE ALLOWED TO KEEP THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE REMAINED THE SAME, BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO TWO AND A HALF STORIES TO GET THERE, THEY WERE ABLE TO SPREAD OUT AT ONE STORY OR ONE AND A HALF STORY IF THEY NEEDED TO.
SO WE CAN TAKE WHAT WE DID ON THE WATERFRONT AND WE CAN DO SOME RESEARCH INTO THAT AND BETWEEN STRATEGIC PLAN AND WE CAN, WE CAN WORK, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT MORE OF THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
IT'S NOT NOW, BUT I, AFTER I REALLY STARTED LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE AND AGE AND EVERYTHING, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS SUCH A CONFINEMENT REALLY UNTIL THAT CAME UP.
YOU SEE THINGS WHEN YOU GET OLDER YOU DIDN'T SEE BEFORE.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT KEVIN? HE DID A GREAT JOB ON HIS HUNDRED AND 58 PAGE PRESENTATION.
KEVIN, I THINK YOU WELL THOUGHT OUT ALL THE STAFF.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, CERTAIN AMENDMENTS OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON PHOTOABLE AMENDMENTS SAYS CHAPTER THREE, ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 3, 2 3 14, 3 17, 3 18, 3 19 AND 3 25.
ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION 4.4, ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 5, 8, 5, 11, 17, 5 15.
ARTICLE SEVEN, ARTICLE NINE, SECTION 9.2, 9.39, 4.1 AS PRESENTED TONIGHT WITH ALL THE DETAILS.
ANY DISCUSSION? IS THAT APPROPRIATE? IT WAS.
ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
[3. Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Town of Bluffton Municipal Code of Ordinances, Chapter 21]
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ALL REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CIVIL ONE CHAPTER KEYBOARDS NOT WORKING.OH, THE KEYBOARD KEYBOARD'S NOT WORKING.
I'M GONNA EVEN MUCH FASTER HERE.
SO I GUESS I HAVE TO DO THIS FROM HERE.
OKAY, SO MINE'S GONNA BE MUCH
I REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT TO GO OVER IN A PRESENTATION, BUT REALLY WHAT THIS IS DOING IS, UM, WE'RE MAKING SOME AMENDMENTS TO, UM, THE ORDINANCES THAT ARE RELATED TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND EMERGENCY PERMITTING.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS THERE'S NO SUBSTANTIAL LIKE CONTENT CHANGES TO THIS.
WHAT, UM, THIS ATTEMPT WAS, IS TO BRING EVERYTHING RELATED TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, EMERGENCY PERMITTING, AND NOW WE'RE CALLING IT CIVIL EMERGENCIES BECAUSE WE HAD THE PANDEMIC.
UM, SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE REALLY SPECIFIC WITH SOME THINGS THAT WE WERE REFERENCING IS TO GET THEM ALL IN ONE CONCISE CHAPTER AND ONE LOCATION IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND THAT'S REALLY TO ELIMINATE POSSIBLE OVERSIGHT BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO GO TO THREE DIFFERENT PLACES TO KNOW WHAT TO DO IF, UM, AN EMERGENCY, UH, STRIKES.
SO REALLY OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN APPROVE IT JUST LIKE YOU DID BEFORE.
UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED MOR MOTION, BUT I WILL STATE THAT THERE'S, UM, REFERENCES IN CHAPTER TWO ABOUT ADMINISTRATION.
YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DECLARE AN EMERGENCY? WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT'S, UM, WHAT'S THAT PROCESS? THEN CHAPTER FIVE, IF YOU RECALL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE, UM, YOU ALL ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE FOR, UM, DEVELOPMENT SITES AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO REALLY MAKE THOSE SITES TIDY AND SECURE BEFORE AN EMERGENCY.
THAT WAS IN CHAPTER FIVE WITH BUILDING CODES.
AND THEN THERE'S EMERGENCY PERMITTING, WHICH IS IN CHAPTER 21.
SO MY, UM, WHAT I DID WAS PULLED EVERYTHING IN ONE CHAPTER AND THIS WILL MAKE IT EASIER NOW FOR OUR NEW, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGER, UH, LIEUTENANT CARA.
HE CAN MAKE ANY SUBSTANCE CHANGES AS HE WORKS THROUGH IT.
SO JUST WANTED TO REALLY SET, UM, SET IT UP A LITTLE BIT EASIER IN ONE SPOT TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
QUESTIONS ON THIS SIDE? QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS.
SO ARE, IS THIS NOW GONNA BE CHAPTER 21? YES.
NOW IT IS GOING TO BE TITLED CHAPTER 21, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CIVIL EMERGENCIES.
AND IT WAS PREVIOUSLY TITLED EMERGENCY PERMITTING.
SO CHAPTER TWO AND CHAPTER FIVE INFO IS GONNA BE REPEATED IN CHAPTER 21.
OKAY, QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON? CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 21, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CIVIL EMERGENCY? NO MA'AM.
IS THERE A SECOND RECORD OF ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY AYE.
DO I HAVE TO RECRUIT MYSELF WHEN SHE SPEAK CUZ SHE'S MY NEIGHBOR.
OH, MAYBE YOU GOTTA RECUSE YOURSELF FROM KRISPY.
[4. Approval to Authorize a Contract to the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources to Update the 2004]
SO KIM, YOU'RE UP.YOU HAVE 1, 2, 3 ITEMS AND WE PUT THESE ON HERE BECAUSE IT'S A LARGE NUMBER AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SO LENGTHY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE.
FIRST IS THE LIGHTING AGREEMENT WITH DOMINION FOR OYSTER FACTORY PARKING LOT PROJECT.
DO YOU NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF? WAIT, I BELIEVE WE SKIPPED ONE.
DOES HE WHAT'S THAT? THIS HERE? UH, LARRY NEED TO RECUSE HIMSELF.
UH, UM, NUMBER FOUR, HE WILL NOT NEED TO.
IT'S OKAY, I CAN ADJUST, YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHERE I AM 2000, UH, UPDATE THE 2004 MAY RIVER WATERSHED BASELINE ASSESSMENT.
UM, THIS IS A CONTRACT WITH DNR FOR AN IMPACT OF $155,000.
SO GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
WE DID AN INITIAL BASELINE ASSESSMENT OF THE MAY RIVER CONDITIONS BACK IN 2002, 2003 WITH A FINAL REPORT DELIVERED TO THE TOWN IN 2004.
THE PURPOSE OF THE BASELINE CONDITION REPORT OF THE MAY RIVER WAS TO DO EXACTLY THAT, GET A BASELINE OF THE BIOLOGICAL AND ABIOTIC FACTORS IN THE MAY RIVER PRIOR TO MAJOR DEVELOPMENT AS PART OF THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN.
ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S PRIORITY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR YEARS 2023 THROUGH 2024.
THEY RECOMMENDED AN UPDATE TO THIS PLAN SINCE IT'S BEEN, OR ASSESSMENT SINCE IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS, JUST TO SEE BEYOND THE, NO, IT'S GONE FAST, HASN'T IT? UM, BEYOND THE OYSTER BED CLOSURE IN THE UPPER THIRD OF THE RIVER, HOW IS THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE RIVER IN OTHER ASPECTS? THEY MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
YOU ALL APPROVED THAT AND INCLUDED IT IN YOUR BUDGET.
SO DNR WHO IS SPECIFICALLY QUALIFIED TO PERFORM THIS ANALYSIS FOR US WILL TAKE THE,
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UM, SAMPLING OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2024, UM, HAVE THEIR ASSESSMENT DONE AND A FINAL REPORT IN OUR HANDS WITHIN 60 DAYS.AND THAT IS WITHIN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO OUR REQUEST IS THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE THIS CONTRACT WITH THE DNR FOR $155,000.
AND IF IT IS SO RECOMMENDED, AS I SAID, THEY'RE GONNA PERFORM THAT ASSESSMENT OVER 2023, REMAINDER THROUGH 2024 AND WITHIN THE FIRST 60 DAYS OF 2025.
SO FEBRUARY, MARCH OF 2025, WE WOULD GET THAT FINAL REPORT BACK FROM THEM.
ARE THERE QUESTIONS OF HIM ON THIS? YES SIR.
HOW ARE WE MONITORING IT NOW AND WHO DO WE PAY? WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT.
SO, UM, WE DO MONITORING AND THE MAJOR DRAINAGES LEADING TO THE RIVER DHEC DOES THE ACTUAL SHELLFISH SAMPLING IN THE RIVER FOR FECAL COLIFORM.
BUT WE ARE NOT MONITORING IN THE RIVER FOR TURBIDITY, FOR DISSOLVED OXYGEN SALINITY, DHEC TAKES A SALINITY MEASURE WHEN THEY TAKE A FECAL COLIFORM MEASURE.
WE HAVE NOT DONE AN ASSESSMENT LIKE THIS IN A HOLISTIC SENSE IN OVER 20 YEARS.
MAYOR, I, I WANNA SAY I USED TO TALK TO KIM ABOUT THAT QUITE A BIT.
I COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND THE HEALTH SAFETY OF PEOPLE, UH, HOW WE DIDN'T EVER DO THAT.
SO I'M ECSTATIC THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.
WHEN I READ YOUR REPORT, I'M LIKE, OKAY, FINALLY WE'RE DOING IT.
IT GIVES US, IT JUST GIVES US SOMETHING TO COMPARE TO 20 YEARS LATER.
THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY IS, YOU KNOW, I I LIKE TO USE THE DATA TO GIVE YOU POLICY SUGGESTIONS AND MAKE DECISIONS UPON RIGHT NOW WE, WE KNOW AT LEAST FROM A FECAL COLOR FORM POINT OF VIEW, THAT OUR STORMWATER ORDINANCE NEEDED TO BE RATCHETED DOWN AND LOOKED AT REGIONALLY.
THIS CAN GIVE US DATA IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO LOOK AT OTHER PORTIONS OF OUR UDO, WHICH THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE SITS IN.
HOW ARE OUR INTENTIONS BEING MET THROUGH OUR POLICIES AND REGULATIONS.
IF WE'RE NOT SEEING AN OVERALL CHANGE IN THE HEALTH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH OF THE RIVER, CONSIDERING THE GROWTH WE'VE HAD, MINUS PERHAPS THE LOSS OF SHELLFISH HARVESTING, WE'VE DONE REALLY WELL.
BUT IF WE ARE SEEING INDICATIONS THAT WE'RE LOSING PERHAPS NURSERY, WHAT HAVE YOU, SOME SEDIMENT CHANGES THAT'S GOING TO INFORM FUTURE MANAGEMENT DECISIONS AND WE'LL HAVE THAT GOOD SCIENCE TO BASE IT ON.
MY QUESTION JUST WAS, UM, SO IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS SINCE THE LAST STUDY OR ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED.
WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED TIME IN TERMS OF HOW OFTEN SHOULD THIS ANALYSIS, UM, BE PERFORMED? PROBABLY BETTER, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE RATE OF DEVELOPMENT WE HAD.
WE SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY DONE IT 10 YEARS AGO TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.
UM, AT THAT POINT IN TIME THOUGH, WE WERE SO FOCUSED ON REALLY TRYING TO NAIL DOWN WHAT THE SOURCES OF FECAL COLIFORM WERE AND WE KNEW THAT WAS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AND THE IMPAIRMENT WE HAD, WE PUT THIS ON THE BACK BURNER, YOU KNOW, LIMITED RESOURCES ADDRESSING THE IMMEDIATE CONCERN.
UM, BUT MY SUGGESTION WOULD PROBABLY BE ON AN A DECAL BASIS.
SO DOES THIS SEEM TO BE SOMETHING, UH, MERE THAT WE AS, AS COUNSEL, UM, OPT TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS ON A REGULAR BASIS TO DO IT ROUTINELY EVERY 10 YEARS? I MEAN WE ALL MIGHT NOT BE UP HERE IN 10 YEARS.
I DON'T, I WOULD ASK STEVEN WHAT THE PROCESS IS TO MAKE IT MALL, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW WOULD WE DO THAT? NOT ON A VOTE TONIGHT.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING, I I WOULD THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE OF A POLICY.
I WAS GONNA SAY INTERNAL POLICY THING FOR US, K KIND OF LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE DID THE COMMUNITY SURVEY IS EVERY TWO TO THREE YEARS WE'D PROBABLY WANNA REVISIT IT JUST TO KEEP UP AS SAME THING WITH THIS AS EVERY 10 YEARS.
WE PROBABLY JUST WANT TO CHECK IN AND DO ALL THAT.
UM, I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT MORE OF A POLICY THING INTERNALLY AND ADD THAT AS A STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM MOVING FORWARD THAT WE WANT TO KEEP CONTINUE TO MANAGE AND CHECK BASELINE.
WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN IS A SUPPLEMENTAL AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALSO INFORMS WHAT WE DO FOR THIS STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE BRING FORWARD.
SO WE JUST UPDATED THE ACTION PLAN AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE ACTION PLAN WAS, HEY Y'ALL NEED TO DO AN ASSESSMENT AGAIN.
YOU HAVEN'T DONE ONE IN A WHILE.
SO RECOGNIZING THAT, AS WE ALWAYS SAY, THESE ARE ALL LIVING DOCUMENTS.
THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN IS AS WELL AND NEEDS TO BE UPDATED PROBABLY MORE FREQUENTLY LIKE EVERY FIVE YEARS OR SO.
AND I'M SURE THAT THAT RECOMMENDATION THEN WOULD ROLL IN THERE AND THEN THAT'S WHAT FEEDS INTO STRATEGIC PLANNING, INTO BUDGETING INTO WORK PLAN.
AND I THINK, UM, STEVEN, I WAS ON ALONG THE SAME LINES OF PUTTING IT INTO THE POLICY CUZ SAMIR'S POINT, UH, WE ALL MAY NOT BE HERE IN 10 YEARS, BUT THE INTENT IS TO HAVE A POLICY THAT WILL REFLECT THAT BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE THE SAME INTENT THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE
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LEAVE THE PLACE BETTER THAN WHAT WE FOUND IT.SO I THINK KEEPING THAT IN, UM, IN, IN PLACE TO, UM, TO PROCEED EVEN AFTER US WOULD BE GOOD.
AND I WOULD EVEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WHAT 80% RESIDENTIALLY BUILT OUT BUT WITH COMMERCIAL BEHIND IS WITH COMMERCIAL.
WELL SHOULD THERE BE CHANGES WITH COMMERCIAL BUILDING SHOULD YOU REALLY CONSIDER BE FIVE YEARS POTENTIALLY? SO I'M CURIOUS THIS COMPARED TO 20 YEARS AGO, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T JUST SAY 10 BECAUSE WE SAID IT.
AND I WOULD ASK WHEN WE WORK ON THE SCOPE, THE FULL SCOPE WITH D N R, WE'LL ASK THEM FOR A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE SEEING.
YOU HAD THIS MUCH CHANGE OVER 20 YEARS, PERHAPS YOU NEED TO DO THIS MORE FREQUENTLY.
MAYBE THREE TO FIVE, MAYBE IT'S FIVE TO SEVEN.
I'LL ASK THEM FOR THAT PART OF THEIR FINAL REPORT.
AND WITH TECHNOLOGY CHANGING AND SUCH, I MEAN WE SEE IT EVERY DAY WITH OUR PHONES AND JUST EVERYDAY LIFE THEY CAN DO SO MUCH MORE AND NOW THAN THEY COULD 20 YEARS AGO.
SO WE GOTTA KEEP UP WITH THE TIMES AND I'M FINE WITH DOING IT EVERY FIVE YEARS.
I WOULD ASK YOU TO TAKE THIS TO YOUR COUNTERPART IN HARDY BILL AND IN BUFORD AND MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT SO LOCO WITH OUR STORMWATER, REGIONAL STORMWATER PLAN THAT WE ALL HAVE TO LET 'EM KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE I THINK THEY NEED TO GET STARTED ON IT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO UPDATE THE 2004 MAY RIVER WATERSHED BASELINE ASSESSMENT FOR $155,000? SO MOVED.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
[5. Consideration of a Proposed Lighting Agreement with Dominion Energy for the Oyster Factory Park Parking Lot Project]
THIS NEXT ONE FIVE IS A PROPOSED LIGHTING AGREEMENT WITH DOMINION ENERGY FOR OYSTER FACTORY PARK PARKING LOT PROJECT FISCAL IMPACT OF $105,445 AND 20 CENTS.AND I'D LIKE TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS.
SO MR. TO HAS RECUSED HIMSELF? YES SIR.
UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE IMPROVEMENTS OCCURRING AT OYSTER FACTORY PARK PARKING LOT WITH THE COMPLETION OF 35 CAR SPACES AND 11 CART SPACES AND ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE.
LAWN LANDSCAPING IS A PORTION OF THAT PROJECT AND IS UNDERWAY AND WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF AUGUST.
AN ADDITIONAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT IS TO INCLUDE L E D LIGHTING FOR SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIANS WHO WILL BE ACCESSING A SIDEWALK ALONG WHARF STREET IN THE PARK AS WELL AS WITHIN THE PARKING LOT ITSELF.
SO THE SCOPE OF THIS AGREEMENT IS WITH DOMINION ENERGY AS OUR SERVICE PROVIDER TO HAVE THE L E D LIGHTS.
THEY WILL BE ON THE SHEPHERD'S CROOK LIGHTING POLES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THROUGHOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THE REASON THIS IS REALLY COMING BEFORE YOU NOT ONLY IS BECAUSE OF THE, THE THRESHOLD OF OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A 10 YEAR AGREEMENT.
SO YOU ARE COMMITTING FUTURE COUNCILS TO THIS AGREEMENT WITH DOMINION.
AN INTERESTING CHANGE IN POLICY ON DOMINION SIDE TO POINT OUT TO YOU, BECAUSE WHEN I COME BACK TO YOU POTENTIALLY NEXT MONTH, UM, IF IT'S NOT ON CONSENT, IS DOMINION NO LONGER OFFERS US THE ABILITY TO BUY THE POLLS THEY NOW HAVE AND RETAIN THE OWNERSHIP OF THE POLES, WHICH MEANS WE WILL REQUIRE THEIR APPROVAL FOR ALL OF OUR BANNERS AND LIGHTING FIXTURES, CAMERAS, ALL OF THAT.
SO JUST TO POINT THAT OUT, MICHAEL GOING I'M SORRY, MICHAEL GOING AND TELL 'EM WE'RE GONNA NEED THAT PERMISSION.
OH, THEY KNOW, THEY KNOW, BUT STILL IT'LL PROBABLY BE ANOTHER AGREEMENT THAT I'LL NEED TO BRING BACK.
I I WAS GONNA SAY THEY HAVE CALCULATIONS FOR ALL OF THAT UP TO THE TYPE SIZE OF THE SIGNAGE BASED ON WIND LOADING AND EVERYTHING.
SO THEY PROBABLY HAVE UNDER SPECS ALREADY WRITTEN.
IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD INCORPORATE OVER TO GET WITH THEM ON THEIR SPECS TO SEE WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE SO WE CAN MATCH WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND SEE THAT THERE'S NOT A CONFLICT THERE.
YOU'LL KNOW THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO GET THEIR PERMISSION EVERY SINGLE TIME I WOULD THINK.
NOW THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO BORE INTO THEIR POLE.
YOU CAN STRAP IT, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW, JUST GOOD INFORMATION.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT PERSPECTIVE.
UM, SO WE'RE PUTTING IN 10 POLES, MONTHLY COSTS FOR THOSE 10 POLES, $878 71 CENTS ANNUALLY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMMITMENT OF $10,554 AND 52 CENTS.
OVER THE SPAN OF THE 10 YEARS IS WHERE YOU HIT THE $105,445 AND 20 CENTS.
UM, THIS IS CURRENTLY WHAT THE PARKING LOT IN, IN THE PATHWAY IS LOOKING LIKE.
SO THE, THE LIGHTS WILL BE INTERSPERSED THROUGHOUT THAT AREA.
AGAIN, FOR SAFETY, THEY WILL MATCH WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
AND SO WE ARE REQUESTING THAT YOU AUTHORIZE A TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH DOMINION FOR THE SPAN OF 10
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YEARS FOR THE SET AMOUNT FOR LADING SERVICE AND LADING COMPONENTS AT OYSTER FACTORY PARK.ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE OWN 'EM AFTER 10 YEARS? I'M SORRY.
UH, WE'RE JUST COMMITTED AT THAT PRICE FOR 10 YEARS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SOUTH CAROLINA? OOPS, WRONG ONE.
AND ENTER TO A LIGHTING AGREEMENT WITH DOMINION ENERGY FOR LIGHTING, INSTALLATION AND LIGHTING SERVICES AT THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK FOR $105,445 AND 20 CENTS.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY THE SAME.
[6. Consideration of a Proposed Purchase Agreement with Green Flush Technologies LLC for the New River Linear Trail Project]
UM, DO NUMBER SIX RIGHT ALONG, UH, PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH GREEN FLUSH TECHNOLOGIES FOR THE NEW RIVER LINEAR TRAIL.SO WITH ESPECIALLY THE 2 MILLION APPROPRIATION THAT WE ALL APPRECIATE FROM SENATOR DAVIS FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE NEW RIVER LINEAR TRAIL, WE DEFINITELY ARE ANTICIPATING INCREASED USE OUT THERE.
THE PROJECT SCOPE ON THIS ONE IS TO USE A GREEN FLUSH VAULTED FACILITY THAT DOES NOT NEED TO BE CONNECTED TO SEWER AND TO WATER LINES FROM B J W S A.
SO THIS IS A STANDALONE FACILITY THAT WILL HAVE ITS OWN WELL, UH, TO PROVIDE THE WATER AND THEN IT WILL BE PUMPED OUT ESSENTIALLY.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME WHEN I SAY IT'S A FANCY PORTLET.
UM, UNDERNEATH THE STATE CONTRACT, WE ACTUALLY SAVED SOME MONEY, 1% DISCOUNT ON IT.
AND BECAUSE AGAIN, IT IS STANDALONE AND WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY THOSE CONNECTIONS AND EXTENSIONS TO B J W S A WATER AND SEWER, UM, IT'S SAVING US A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT, ON THAT PARTICULAR, UM, ASPECT OF IT.
UM, WE, WE LOOKED, AND PERSONALLY I VISITED, THIS IS WHERE I SOUND SAW COUNCILWOMAN FRAZIER'S, UM, COUSIN.
WAS IT YOUR COUSIN, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
UH, I VISITED ONE OF THEIR FACILITIES UP THERE.
SHE DID A REALLY NICE JOB DECORATING IT WITH FLOWERS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, BUT, UM, THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.
AND SO IT'LL, IT'LL BE FAMILY FRIENDLY ON BOTH SIDES AND COMES PREFAB GETS INSTALLED ON SITE.
WE'LL HAVE THE, THE WATER, THE WELL RUN TO IT.
SO WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS THAT YOU AUTHORIZE A TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT WITH GREEN FLESH TECHNOLOGIES FOR A CONTRACT PRICE OF $182,482 PLUS A 10% CONTINGENCY OF THE 18,000 4 2 48.
AND I'M PRESENTING THIS TO YOU A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AS A TOTAL FISCAL IMPACT INSTEAD OF BEFORE I WAS GIVING YOU A CONTRACT PLACE PLUS 10 OR 20% AND NEVER GIVING YOU A FINAL NUMBER.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THIS TIME AND THIS IS THE WAY WE'LL DO IT MOVING FORWARD SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS AS A TOTAL PRICE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL FISCAL IMPACT TO $200,730 TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT.
ANY QUESTIONS OF GENERAL MISS? YES, GO THERE.
THIS IS GOING IN THE PARKING LOT AND THE PARKING LOT OF NEW RIVER LINEAR TRAIL, UM, ALONG WITH SOME LIGHTING AND THE, AND THE, WELL WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE POWER THERE.
UM, I THINK, WELL, WE'RE WORKING WITH DOMINION.
THEY'RE PART OF THE NECESSARY STAKEHOLDERS TO GET THERE.
THERE'S SOMES I'VE NEVER PULLED IN THERE.
I THINK THERE'S POWER AT THE EDGE.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO GET IT TO THE LOCATION WHERE THIS IS GOING.
YEAH, AND I I I CAN ONLY SAY I'M, I'M FINE WITH DOING IT.
I'M, I'M SURE IT'S NEEDED, BUT ALSO, UM, SOME AUTOMATIC LOCKS.
YOU DON'T WANT IT OPEN ALL NIGHT AT A CERTAIN TIME, YOU KNOW, CUZ THAT'S PRETTY FAR OUT IN THE BOONIES OUT UHHUH.
SO I COULD JUST IMAGINE WE'D HAVE PROBLEMS WITH VANDALISM, OTHER ISSUES.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH IT ON CAMERAS AND IF WE CAN GET CAMERAS OUT THERE FOR SAFETY CAMERAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TOO.
HOW MUCH DOES THE BUILDING COST? STANDALONE BUILDING COST.
THE STANDALONE BUILDING COST IS $182,482.
AND THAT INCLUDES, LET ME GO BACK.
THAT INCLUDES JUST MY MOUSE UP HERE.
IT GOES, GOES OFFITE CONSTRUCTION DELIVERY AND INSTALLATION OF THE PREFABRICATED RESTROOM.
WELL, YOUR BOTTOM LINE SAYS WHAT IT IS.
IT'S SEALED, IT'S CONTAINED AND COMPLIANT.
THAT INCLUDES THE WELL, RIGHT? THIS WHOLE PRICE IS YEAH.
WELL'S GOT 180 2 INCLUDES THE WELL MM-HMM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, TWO THINGS.
I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF CAMERAS AND ALL WE NEED TO PUT ON THERE AND DO IT.
NOW, THE VANDALISM, ABSOLUTELY.
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I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONE THERE LATELY UNDER THE BRIDGE, BUT WE NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT.I HOPE THAT WOULD BE WELL WATER.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE NEED THAT.
WOULD YOU DRINK WELL WATER? WHY NOT? I'D DRINK.
I, I GREW UP ON IT PERSONALLY, BUT I GREW UP ON WELL WATER.
JUST LIKE WILL IT BE FILTERED? YEAH.
THE WATER BOTTLE OF SPENCERS, THEY USUALLY HAVE A FILTER IN 'EM.
RIGHT OUT THE END OF THE WHOLE OH YOU I THAT WE NEED SIGNAGE.
AND THEN LOOK AT THE FANCY WHO ALL HERE HAS DRANK? WELL, WATER
FROM THE HOSE, RIGHT? WELL WATER FROM THE HOSE.
THAT'S ALL THEY, THAT'S ALL THEY HAD.
WELL, I THINK WITH THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T USED TO WELL, WATER DOWN, THEY HAD HAVE MOVED HERE.
WELL, WATER THAT'S EASILY, EASILY SOLD.
BUT THE MACHINES, IF THEY'RE SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT ARE OSCAR FRAZIER, THERE'S A FILTER ON IT, UM, TOO.
ANYWAY, SO IT IT DOES FILTER IT IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR THEM.
THERE'S NO CHLORINE IN WELL WATER.
IF YOU GOTTA ADD SOMETHING ON SECURITY, Y'ALL NEED TO YES.
ADDRESS THAT CAUSE YES, I WILL WORK ON THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, IS THERE A, UH, IS THERE
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THAT? TO APPROVE ALL OF THAT? NO.
TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH GREEN PLUS TECHNOLOGIES FOR $182,482 PLUS A 10% CONTINGENCY OF 18,248 FOR A TOTAL FISCAL FISCAL IMPACT OF $200,730, WHICH IS THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO CONSTRUCT RESTROOM FACILITIES AT NEW RIVER LINEAR TRAIL PROJECT.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? SAY, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? THANK YOU SO MUCH, KIM.
YOU UM, DID WE ASK WHEN THAT'S GONNA BE FINISHED? WILL IT BE ON OUR LIST OF I WILL.
I WILL GET THAT FROM CONSTANCE.
I THINK THAT'S BEFORE THE END OF THE, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO THE CONSENT AGENDA HAS THE BEST OF REPORTS FOR TOM WHO'S HANGING THROUGH THIS WHOLE COUNCIL MEETING.
THE MOST IMPORTANT REPORTS ARE WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO PASS AND NOT GO OVER THE PROJECT.
THE DEPARTMENT REPORTS ARE AWESOME AND OUR TOWN MANAGER MONTHLY REPORT.
IS THERE ANYTHING OUTTA HERE? Y'ALL WANT TO BRING ALL THROUGH A DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
[XII. Executive Session]
UNANIMOUS.IS THERE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR
[1. Discussions Relating to Negotiations and Contractual Arrangements for Proposed Land]
TWO ITEMS? DISCUSSIONS RELATING TO NEGOTIATIONS AND CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS FOR PROPOSED LAND ACQUISITION IN OLD TOWN MAY, RIVER ROAD, BUCK ISLAND,[2. Legal Advice from Town Attorney Regarding Contractual Matters Regarding Economic Development]
AND LEGAL ADVICE FROM TOWN ATTORNEY REGARDING CONTRACTUAL MATTERS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.AND THAT ALSO IS FOIA ACT 34 70 82.
ANY DISCUSSION? UM, ALL IN FAVOR? STATE THE THING.
OPPOSED? SO DO YOU WANT IN AND WHO CAN GO HOME, COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ACTION WAS TAKEN, THE VOTES WERE MADE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? AMEN.