[1. Call to Order ]
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I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS JULY 11TH, 2023 WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER.
KIMBERLY, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE AND FREEDOM INFORMATION?
[3. Adoption of the Agenda ]
WE ARE.MR. ORLANDO, ARE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? NO, SIR.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[4.a. Discussion of Hilton Head Island Major Thoroughfare Corridor Plan ]
MUCH.WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON OUR WORKSHOP AGENDA TODAY, AND THAT IS THE DISCUSSION FOR THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND MAJOR THOROUGHFARE CORRIDOR PLAN.
THIS IS OUR SECOND TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON THE MAJOR THROUGH FAIR CORRIDORS PLAN.
THIS WORKSHOP WAS IN MARCH, 2023, AND WE REVIEWED AND DISCUSS THE SYSTEMS. UH, THIS IS THE SECOND WORKSHOP, AND WE WILL REVIEW AND DISCUSS SEGMENTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE SEAN AND HIS TEAM TO, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE JOINED BY CONSULTANTS, BRIAN KINSMAN WITH MK SK ADDIE WEBER OF TOOL DESIGN, AND JONATHAN GUY WITH KIMBERLY HORN AND TONY FOR A SK UH, MAYOR.
THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, TOM MANAGER FOR ALLOWING OUR TEAM TO MEET WITH YOU TODAY TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON THE CORRIDOR, UH, MAJOR CORRIDOR PLAN.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING AT THIS FOR ABOUT 18 MONTHS.
UM, I'VE GOT SOME OPENING COMMENTS.
THIS IS A BIG UNDERTAKING, SO I JUST SHOULD GIVE A FEW ME JUST A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE AND, AND A COUPLE MINUTES TO GO THROUGH THIS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AN EXPERT TEAM.
UM, OUR INTERNAL TEAM WAS WITH, UH, STAFF EXPERTS, UH, BUT ALSO OUR CONSULTING, UM, UM, FOLKS HERE THAT ARE AT THE TABLE AND THEIR TEAMS THAT ARE, THAT HAVE BEEN BUILDING THIS PLAN AND DOING A LOT OF THE BACKGROUND WORK.
BRIAN KINSMAN REPRESENTING M K SK.
WE KNOW BRIAN, WE'VE SEEN HIM FROM SOME OTHER WORKS.
BUT MK SK IS A PLANNING URBAN DESIGN, A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRM.
THEY'VE GOT 12, UM, METROPOLITAN STUDIOS.
UH, THEY'RE A LEADER IN CAPTURING THE FULL VALUE OF STREETS FOR ALL USE, UM, FOR ALL USERS.
AND WE KNOW, UM, IN THEIR WORK WITH US HELPING DEVELOP A CORRIDORS PLAN, UM, IN THE STONY COMMUNITY.
UM, UH, EARLIER, UM, WITH OUR ENGAGEMENT, UM, ADDIE WEBER, WE HAVE ADDIE WEBER, UH, FROM TOOL DESIGN.
UM, THEY'RE FOUNDED WITH A MISSION TO SUPPORT INNOVATIVE STREETS AND DYNAMIC COMMUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND ABILITIES CAN ENJOY WALKING, BIKING, AND ACCESS TO TRANSIT.
UH, TOOL HAS BEEN HIRED TO PREPARE AND UPDATE THE FEDERAL AASHTO STANDARDS.
AND I HAVE WHAT AASHTO MEANS, AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF STATE HIGHWAY AND TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS.
UM, SO, UH, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE ENGAGED ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL AND OUR LEADERS IN, IN THAT FIELD RELATED TO BIKING, WALKING, ACCESS TO TRANSIT, AND SO FORTH AND SO FORTH.
UH, JONATHAN GUY WE HAVE HERE REPRESENTING KIMLEY HORN, A PLANNING AND DES UH, AND DESIGN ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.
THEY'RE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS INDUSTRY LEADER, CREATING SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION PLANS FOR COMMUNITIES AND REGIONS.
UM, OTHER TEAM MEMBERS HAVE PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE.
UM, WE HAVE TONY ROLL, UM, SUPPORT FOR MKS.
K HE'S REALLY BEEN OUR POINT PERSON, UH, LAST MINUTE CHANGES, UM, EVEN AS CLOSE AS MAYBE NINE 30 THIS MORNING.
UM, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE TONY, UM, AND THEIR TEAM, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS, INCLUDING JONATHAN STAKER.
UH, WE'VE GOT JARED DRAPER WITH TOOL DESIGN.
WE HAVE CARLA VINCENT, UH, ON OUR TEAM AND OUR, UH, PROJECT MANAGERS AND ENGINEERING, TRANSPORTATION, STORMWATER AND FACILITIES THAT HAVE ALL PROVIDED SUBJECT, UM, INPUT AND SUBJECT MATTER TO GET THE PROJECT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
UM, AT YOUR MARCH WORKSHOP, WE REVIEWED THE SYSTEM SEGMENTS, UM, THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS THAT MAKE UP SAFE, FUNCTIONAL, ATTRACTIVE CORRIDOR LAND, INCLUDING LANDSCAPES, SIGNAGE, INTERSECTIONS, ET CETERA.
UM, AT TODAY'S WORKSHOP, WE WILL REVIEW THE SEGMENTS APPLYING THOSE SYSTEMS THAT WE LOOKED AT, UM, EARLIER IN MARCH.
UM, THE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT, UM, THAT TOWN COUNCIL HAD ADVISED US TO REVIEW IN MORE DETAIL, AND THOSE SEGMENTS INCLUDE WILLIAM WILLIAM MILTON PARKWAY AT NORTHRIDGE, WILLIAM MILTON PARKWAY, THROUGH THE CHAPLAIN COMMUNITY.
IT IS THE, UM, WE CALL IT WILLIAM MILTON PARKWAY, SEGMENT TWO, BUT REALLY THE MAIN STREET CORRIDOR IN SEGMENT, THE PALMETTO BAY, UM, BAY PINES ARROW ROAD SEGMENT AS YOU'RE LOOKING ON THE SOUTH END, UH, C PINE CIRCLE, POP AVENUE, UM, AND KNI CIRCLE IN THOSE SE IN THOSE SEGMENTS.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY REVIEWED THOSE IN MORE DETAIL.
THEY'RE GONNA BE A MAJOR FOCUS OF THE, OF THE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION, UH, HERE TODAY.
UM, WE'LL REVIEW THE DETAILS FOR THESE SEGMENTS AS, AS WELL AS GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE OVERALL CORRIDOR.
I WANNA JUST POINT OUT, THIS IS A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS NOT DONE AT THIS LEVEL.
UM, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, UM, WE APPRECIATE COUNCIL SUPPORT IN ADVANCING US AND GIVING US THE RESOURCES AND ABILITY TO DO THIS, UM, TO DO THIS WORK AND TO MAKE MEANINGFUL
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IMPACT, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY FROM A SAFETY, FROM AN AESTHETIC, UH, FROM A FUNCTIONALITY FOR ALL USERS WITHIN THESE CORRIDORS.UM, COUNCIL WILL ULTIMATELY BE ASKED TO ADOPT THE PLAN AND THE CONCEPTS THAT ARE PART OF THAT PLAN.
WE WANNA HAVE DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL, LIKE WE DID ON THE SYSTEMS TODAY WITH SOME SEGMENTS.
I ANTICIPATE FOLLOW UP MEETINGS TO GO IN MORE DETAIL, UM, TO GET US TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN ULTIMATELY PRESENT YOU A CORRIDOR PLAN THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AND THAT WE CAN USE IS OUR BLUEPRINT TO WORK WITH.
UM, SETTING C I P AND BUDGETING WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS.
YOU KNOW, ONLY 3% OF THE ROADS ON HILL THAT ARE OWNED BY THE TOWN, UM, MOST ARE PRIVATE, BUT WE, WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT OUR PARTNERSHIPS AND RELATIONSHIP WITH D O T AND, UH, AND BEAUFORT COUNTY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE, THESE SEGMENTS.
UM, SO WE KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL BRING YOU A PLAN SOMETIME LATER, BUT WHEN YOU'RE COMFORTABLE AND WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL YOUR, UH, YOUR QUESTIONS, THE INPUT, UH, AND BRING THAT BACK, UH, INDIVIDUAL SEGMENTS WILL PRESENTED, WILL BE PRESENTED FROM COUNCIL TO TIME, FROM TIME TO TIME AS WE ADVANCE THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION.
YOU KNOW, YOU CONTROL, UH, PRIORITIZATION THROUGH YOUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN THROUGH THE BUDGET AND THE C I P THAT'S PRESENTED TO YOU EACH YEAR.
AND WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS DUE THE, UH, DURING THE QUARTERLY C I P MEETINGS THAT WE WILL PLAN TO EXECUTE.
UM, COUNSEL WILL NEED TO PRIORITIZE SEGMENTS FOR I IMPLEMENTATION BASED ON FACTORS LIKE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, ACCIDENT OCCURRENCE.
UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME HEAT MAPS THAT SHOW WHERE INCIDENTS OCCUR, WHERE THERE'S BEEN CRASHES, INCIDENTS, INJURIES AND FATALITIES, AND THEN MAJOR POINTS OF CONGESTION.
UM, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT ARE DESIGNS OF SAFE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING CROSSINGS.
HOW DOES THIS INTEGRATE INTO THE STONY, UM, PLAN THAT WAS DRAFTED EARLIER AND, UH, PRESENTED TO COUNSEL FOR THE POSITION.
UM, BUT THE GOAL TODAY IS TO GET YOUR INPUT ON THESE SEGMENTS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING AND LATER RETURN FOR FOLLOW UP AS MANY TIMES AS NEEDED WITH COUNSEL TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE TO ULTIMATELY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES CORRIDOR PLAN BY ADOPTION THROUGH RESOLUTION.
AND THAT WILL PROVIDE US THE BLUEPRINT THAT ALLOWS US TO EXECUTE WHAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT THROUGH C I P, THROUGH TALKING WITH THE COUNTY, THROUGH THE STATE.
HOW DO WE, UH, AND BASED ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS OUR FINAL DISPOSITION ON ROAD OWNERSHIP AND OTHER THINGS.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO AN ENGAGING WORKSHOP.
I KNOW I'VE TALKED TOO LONG CUZ THERE'S A LOT OF SLIDES IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING AND WE'RE READY TO ADVANCE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION UNLESS I GIVE THE TOWN MANAGER AN OPTION IF HE WANTS TO MAKE ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
BUT BRIAN, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND RESERVE THE RIGHT TO JUMP IN AND ADD, UM, ALONG THE WAY.
COUNSEL, MR. MANAGER BRIAN KINSMAN, SENIOR PRINCIPAL AT MKS.
YOU'VE MET MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUES HERE IN, UM, AS JOHN HAD SAID, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEST IN CLASS PRACTITIONERS FOR SURE.
ONE THING I WANNA DWELL UPON IN THIS OPENING SLIDE, AND AS TOWN STAFF, UH, SEAN TOUCHED UPON IT, THE TOWN STAFF HAS BEEN ABS ABSOLUTELY EXTRAORDINARY ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, CARLA AND ERIC AND SEAN, AND MARK AND BRIAN AND JENNIFER AND TAYLOR, ALL OF THEM HAVE PUT COUNTLESS HOURS INTO THIS, AND ISN'T JUST FOR SAKE OF PUTTING THEIR FINGERPRINTS ON IT, BUT ADDING VALUE TO THIS.
SO IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S, UM, UH, PAUSE FOR CREDIT, DON'T FORGET THEM.
IT ISN'T JUST THIS CONSULTANT TEAM.
UH, AGAIN, AS SEAN HAD SUGGESTED, WE WANNA REINTRODUCE THIS PROJECT.
IT'S BEEN SO LONG AGO SINCE WE INTRODUCED IT THE FIRST TIME, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UH, WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE, AS THEY SAY.
UH, WE, WE DID, UH, BRIEF YOU ON SOME OF THE SYSTEMS EARLY ON.
WE WANNA REITERATE THAT VERY BRIEFLY TODAY.
BUT WE WANNA CONCENTRATE ON THE SEGMENTS, WHICH IS THE APPLICATION OF THOSE SYSTEMS TO GEOGRAPHIC LOCALES WITHIN THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE, AND THEN DISCUSS THE IMPLEMENTATION PRIORITIES.
WE'VE PUT THOSE FORTH IN DRAFT FASHION BASED ON OUR SENSIBILITIES, BUT THOSE, THOSE DEMAND YOUR INPUT, UH, AS WE MOVE TO FILE.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING, AS SEAN SUGGESTED, IS TO GIVE YOU A, UH, A, A PRIMER, A, UH, I CALL IT THE TRAILER TO THE MOVIE.
UH, THE MOVIE ITSELF WILL BE IN THE PRINTED DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING TO YOU.
THIS IS VERY COMPLEX, INTERTWINED INFORMATION.
IT'S URBAN PLANNING, IT'S TRANSPORTATION, IT'S, UH, LAND USE PLANNING, IT'S ECONOMICS, IT'S PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE ALL ROLLED INTO ONE.
SO I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR THE LENGTH OF THIS, BUT WE'RE TRYING
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TO CONDENSE THAT INTO A VERY BRIEF UNDERTAKING.WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS.
WE'VE GOT OUR SENSIBILITIES AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT TODAY AND MOVING FORWARD.
AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU FOR, UH, TO ADDRESS THOSE AND APPLY FOR, UH, FOR ADOPTION.
WE'VE BEGUN, UH, THIS WITH ANALYSIS OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
THAT'S KIND OF A AHA MOMENT, RIGHT? OF COURSE, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE ANALYZED CRASH DATA.
WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT, UH, CRITICAL AREAS IN THE CORRIDORS THAT NEED IMPROVEMENT, UH, TARGETED SAFETY OF THE ROADWAYS, BICYCLISTS, AND PEDESTRIAN.
WE HAVE STARTED AND ENDED ALL OF THIS LOOKING THROUGH THE LENS OF SAFETY, SERIOUS INJURY, AND EVEN FATALITIES THAT HAPPEN WITHIN OUR PUBLIC, UH, DOMAIN.
AND WE DEVELOPED STANDARDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, MATERIALS, AND AESTHETICS.
AND THAT IS NOT TO MAKE IN MONOTONY.
IT IS ACTUALLY MEANT TO, FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, HAVE A COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF STATE-OF-THE ART, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND MATERIALS AND GEOMETRIES SO THAT WE CAN EXPRESS THE INDIVIDUALITY OF, OF AREAS ACROSS THE CORRIDOR OVER TIME.
THIS IS A LOT OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IN, UH, UH, AND, AND LINEAR FEET OF TRAIL AND STREET.
SO I'LL DESCRIBE THIS IN GENERAL TERMS AS WE GET INTO THIS, UH, AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY THE CONFINES OF IT.
AGAIN, WE SPOKE TO SYSTEMS BEFORE.
THAT'S THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF, OF, UH, WHAT WE APPLY TO THE QUARTERS OF ITSELF.
LANDSCAPE AND AESTHETICS, SIGNAGE, BRANDING, PUBLIC ART, UM, ROADWAYS, UH, INTERSECTIONS.
THOSE ARE, ARE BOTH CROSS INTERSECTIONS, UH, SLIP LANES AND ALSO ROUNDABOUTS PATHWAYS FOR BOTH PEDESTRIANS AND, UH, AND BICYCLISTS.
THAT TRANSIT WILL HELP US IN A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT WE FACE AS AN ISLAND.
AND TO THE SEGMENTS, AGAIN, APPLYING THOSE SYSTEMS TO THOSE SEGMENTS.
THERE ARE EIGHT DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OR REACHES OF THE PARKWAY ITSELF.
WE'VE BROKEN IT DOWN INTO GEOGRAPHIC AREAS BASED, UH, LARGELY ON THE, UM, ON THE, THE, THE FEEL OF THE CORRIDORS, THE GEOMETRY OF THE CORRIDORS, THE ADJACENT LAND USE, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ADJACENT.
THERE ARE FOUR, I'M SORRY, THERE ARE FOUR SEGMENTS THERE AS WELL.
THAT INCLUDES, UH, UH, PALMETTO BAY SEA, PINE CIRCLE, AND, UH, POPE AVENUE AND PORTIONS OF FOREST BEACHES, AND THEN THE CROSS ISLAND REGION.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE IMPLEMENTATION.
TO SEAN'S POINT, UH, THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE THAT LEADS TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
HOW DO WE TAKE THAT DOWN OVER TIME? WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES? WHERE'S THE FUNDING COME FROM? HOW DO WE THAT IN AT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS? BUT ALL THREE OF THESE, THESE SECTIONS, THEY'RE NOT CHAPTERS, THEY'RE SECTIONS LEAD TO THIS COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT.
UH, AGAIN, AS SHAUNA MENTIONED, UH, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT THESE WONDERFUL RIGHT, UH, WORLD CLASS PRACTITIONERS ASSISTING US HERE.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THE PLANS THAT YOU'VE DONE BEFORE.
WE'VE LOOKED AT NATIONAL STANDARDS.
WE'VE LOOKED AT SMART GROWTH AMERICA AND VISION ZERO AS GUIDANCE AS WELL.
WE DON'T HAVE THE CORNER MARKET ON ALL THE GOOD IDEAS.
THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS OUT THERE, AND WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM POSSIBLE.
SO WE'RE LEARNING FROM WHAT OTHERS HAVE DONE AND WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THIS ISLAND IN THE PAST.
AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A LOT OF ROADWAY AND A LOT OF FOLKS USING IT ON A DAILY BASIS.
WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT INFLOW ONTO THE, UH, INTO OUR COMMUNITY ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND, UH, LESS THAN HALF OF THAT OUTFLOW.
WE'VE GOT 72 MILES OF PUBLIC PATHWAYS.
WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF A TRAIL SYSTEM NATIONALLY IN THE YEARS PAST.
WE, WE NEED TO AUGMENT THAT AND GET BACK TO THAT POINT OF, UH, AND THEN THE TROLLEY NOT TO BE, NOT TO BE, UM, UH, UH, DISCOUNTED.
WE'VE DONE A LOT WITH OUR TROLLEY SYSTEM AND OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM, UH, DOES A LOT OF PUBLIC GOOD FOR NOT MUCH RESOURCES IN ORGANIZATION.
WE THINK THERE'S, THAT'S A DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH THAT CAN HELP IN A LOT OF ISSUES.
SO, AS I SAID BEFORE, WE'VE STARTED WITH SAFETY.
THIS IS CRASH DATA, A HEAT MAP AT MOST, AT INTERSECTIONS AND AT, UH, MID-BLOCK CROSSINGS THAT INDICATE WHERE WE'VE HAD, UH, BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN AUTOMOBILE CONFLICTS, UM, WHERE WE'VE HAD FATALITIES, GOD FORBID, AND WHERE WE'VE HAD MAJOR
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ACCIDENTS.SO THOSE ARE REALLY DRIVEN WHERE WE THINK THE, UH, PRIORITIES LIE IN MEDIA.
WE'VE TALKED WITH A NUMBER OF SAMPLES, RIGHT? FRANK, YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT ONLY HAVING 3% OF ROADS OWNED BY THE TOWN.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE SAFETY SLIDE HERE, WHERE CRASHES INCIDENTS ARE HAPPENING HAPPENING, UM, THEY'RE REALLY NOT ON TOWN OWNED ROADS.
SO THE ABILITY TO HAVE A TREATMENT THAT'S SAFER AND INFLUENCED WHAT, WHAT D O T AND THE COUNTY ALLOW IS GONNA BE CRITICAL IN, IN MAKING IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, WE NEED TO CHANGE IF WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE THESE STATISTICS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PLAN AIMS TO PROVIDE US THE, THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO PUSH THOSE CHANGES.
STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT, UH, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS, NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES, TRANSIT, PUBLIC SAFETY, UTILITY FOLKS, UH, RETAIL AND THE MAJOR, UH, LANDOWNERS HAVE ALL BEEN CONSULTED AND ASKED FOR THEIR FEELINGS AND OPINIONS.
UH, QUITE FRANKLY, THEY ALIGN WITH OUR INTUITION AS WE'VE APPROACHED THIS.
WE NEED TO UPDATE THE PATHWAY SYSTEM, FILL IN THE BLANKS AS IT WERE, AND IMPROVE THE STANDARDS FUNCTIONALITY OF INTERSECTIONS.
CREATE A CONSISTENT AESTHETIC THAT IS NOT A MONOTONOUS AESTHETIC, THAT IS A CONSISTENT QUALITY OF AESTHETIC THAT MAY BE EXPRESSED DIFFERENTLY.
SEGMENT TO SEGMENT, PLACE TO PLACE, UH, DEVELOP A UNIFORM SIGNAGE AND WAYFINDING SYSTEM.
UH, THERE MAY BE TOO MANY SIGNS.
THERE MAY BE NOT ENOUGH SIGNS, BUT SIGNAGE AS A WHOLE NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT COMPREHENSIVELY PALM TRAFFIC AND REDUCED SPEEDS.
ACTUAL SPEED IS SOMETHING ELSE AS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT MAY TELL.
UH, AND, AND REDUCE, UH, THE VEHICLE TRAFFIC DEMAND.
I E THE TRANSIT SYSTEM, I E BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
HOW CAN WE TAKE AUTOMOBILES OFF THE STREETS AND PUT IT INTO, UH, SO, UH, HIGHLIGHT OF THE SYSTEMS THAT YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE.
AGAIN, IT'S LANDSCAPE, ROADWAY, INTERSECTIONS, SIGNAGE, TRANSIT, AND PATHWAYS.
UM, THAT WAS PROBABLY TOO QUICK FOR YOU ALL, BUT, UM, WE HAVE, UH, IN THE COMPENDIUM DOCUMENT, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF DETAIL TO ALL OF THAT, AGAIN, WHERE WE'RE ESTABLISHING MINIMUM STANDARDS, DIRECTIVES AS TO WHAT GOES WHERE, UH, TO BE USED AS FUTURE DESIGN TAKES PLACE IN THE ENGINEERING AND INTO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
AND BRIAN, IF I CAN POINT OUT, UM, WE, WE DELIVERED COUNSEL A PRESENTATION, HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL TO REMIND THEM OF THE SYSTEM DISCUSSIONS THAT WE, WE HAD IN MARCH FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING, TRYING TO ADVANCE INTO THE, UH, SEGMENTS AND THEN RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO, UM, THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY PROVIDES MORE CONTEXT ON THIS.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYBODY'S DETAIL QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT TODAY, OR LATTER PARTS.
DON'T, DON'T MEAN TO SCHEDULE THAT.
IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG, OR HOW YOU YEAH, I THINK SINCE IT'S, UM, SO INTENSIVE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, ASK YOU SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AS WE HIT THOSE CERTAIN HIGHLIGHTS IS APPROPRIATE.
UM, MOSTLY A COMMENT OR COMING AT A QUESTION.
AND THAT IS IF THE MARCH THREE PRESENTATION, WE HAD A DOCUMENT OF ABOUT 113 PAGES, UM, WHICH INCLUDED THIS PART THAT YOU'RE SUMMARIZING NOW.
UM, AND NOW WE HAVE A DOCUMENT OF ABOUT 220 PAGES.
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE TO CONSIDER ALL OF THAT TOGETHER, TOTALING ABOUT 233 PAGES OF PRESENTATION.
SO WE DON'T SET ASIDE WHAT YOU SHOWED US BEFORE ON SYSTEMS, REMEMBER THAT EXTENT THAT WE YEAH, THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
WE CAPTURED INPUT ON THE SYSTEMS BACK IN MARCH, AND WE HAVE NOT LOST TRACK OF THAT INFORMATION.
UM, NOW MOVING INTO THE SEGMENTS, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS, UH, DISCUSSION.
WE'LL HAVE SOME OPTIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO EVALUATE AND, AND COMMENT ON IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE TODAY.
UH, BUT ULTIMATELY WE'LL BRING THE WHOLE PLAN BACK, UH, FOR ADOPTION.
EACH INDIVIDUAL SEGMENT WILL MAKE SENSE WHEN, WHEN BROUGHT TOGETHER AS, AS A FULL DOCUMENT.
SO I, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THE SYSTEM.
JOHN TOUCHED ON THIS A MOMENT AGO.
YOU ARE PRESENTING OPTIONS THAT MAY BE IMPLEMENTABLE DEPENDING ON S C D O T OR THESE ARE SUGGESTIONS THAT S C D O T WHO WOULD ADOPT.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION? I DO.
I'M GONNA LET J GUY JUMP JUMP IN HERE.
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OF OPTIONS BASED ON, UM, EXPERTISE.WE'VE CERTAINLY HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH S C D O T ABOUT THOSE OPTIONS.
ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO THEN MOVE INTO, ULTIMATELY AS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT INTO PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING, WHERE THERE'S A LOT MORE CONVERSATION WITH D O T AND COUNTING AND THEN INTO FINAL DESIGN AND DOCUMENTATION AND BID BILL.
SO IT HAS BEEN VETTED, UM, I WON'T SAY IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY D O T, BUT IT'S BEEN VETTED AND CONVERSED, UH, WITH THEM.
JAY GOT, PLEASE ADD TO THAT IF YOU CAN.
ALL OF THE OPTIONS ARE FEASIBLE OPTIONS WITH THAT C D O T.
THEY FIT THE RDM ROADWAY DESIGN MANUAL, AND THEY ARE EITHER IMPLEMENTED ELSEWHERE IN THE STATE OR IN ADJACENT STATES THAT S C D O T LOOKS TO FOR DIRECTION GUIDANCE AS A PARTNER STATE.
SO WE AREN'T ESTABLISHING A NEGOTIATING DOCUMENT WITH S C D O T.
WE'RE SAYING THAT THESE THINGS CAN BE IMPLEMENTED, AS YOU SUGGESTED.
WHERE THE ACQUISITION, UH, UH, BY THE TOWN OF OWNERSHIP OF THESE ROADS BE A POSSIBLE AND PERHAPS, UH, LAST RESORT IT WILL BEEN OF NON COOPERATION.
IT GIVES YOU THE POWER TO CONTROL THE ROADWAYS.
UM, AGAIN, THAT COMES WITH ADDITIONAL COSTS, UM, AND EXPENSE TO TOWN.
BUT YOU'RE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY IF YOU, THE ROAD.
WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO D O T AS A PARTNER, NOT AS A, AS AN HILTON HEAD.
AND THE OTHER PLACE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
UH, POINT WELL TAKEN NOW TO THE SEGMENTS.
AGAIN, THESE ARE THE GEOGRAPHIC REACHES OR BREAKDOWN OF, OF THE LARGER GEOGRAPHY, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK IS THE BACKBONE OF OUR ROADWAY SKELETON, WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY.
IT HAS, UH, SEGMENT ONE IS FROM SPANISH WELLS TO JARVIS PARK.
UH, SEGMENT TWO IS WILBORN TO, UH, BEACH CITY ROAD, INCLUDING MAIN STREET.
UH, THREE IS BEACH CITY ROAD TO DILLON.
ESSENTIALLY FOUR IS THROUGH THE MID ISLAND.
FIELD FIVE IS MATTHEWS FOLLY FIELD DOWN TO SHELTER COVE LANE SIX, THE STRAIGHTAWAY, AS I CALL IT, UH, THE SHELTER COVE LANE DOWN TO KING NEPTUNE.
THE SECOND STRAIGHTAWAY IS, UM, KING NEPTUNE DOWN TO SHIPYARD INTO WEXFORD, AND THEN IT'S INTO THE WEXFORD DRIVE TO SEE PINE CIRCLE.
SO WE'VE BROKEN THAT DOWN INTO THESE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS JUST LARGELY TO UNDERSTAND IT.
EACH OF THE CONDITIONS, THE CONDITIONS WITHIN EACH OF THESE GEOGRAPHIES CAN VARY FOR SURE.
IF I COULD, UM, LIST THESE ONE THROUGH SIX OR SEVEN HERE.
IS THAT THE PRIORITY YOU'RE GIVING THEM OR IS THAT JUST NO, SIR.
GEOGRAPHIC NORTH, SOUTH, IT'S NOT A PRIORITY AT ALL.
IT'S A, IT'S A WAY OF TAKING SOMETHING LARGE AND BREAKING IT DOWN IN INCREMENTAL PIECES SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT INTIMATELY.
UH, A COUPLE OF THOSE ARE IN FACT, PRIORITY AREAS JUST BASED ON THAT PREVIOUS, UH, PREVIOUSLY SHOWN HEAT MAP OF THE ACCIDENTS IN THE FATALITIES.
WE NEED REST OF THE SAFETY ISSUES AS A FIRST TIME.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE WHERE YOU'RE SHOWING THE SEGMENT
IT HELPS TO LOCATE THEM WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT 'EM.
YOU SOUTH ISLAND, UH, IS PALMETTO BAY FROM HELMSMAN OR THE, THE BASE OF THE CROSS ISLAND, UH, BRIDGE DOWN TO C PINE CIRCLE.
IT ALSO INCLUDES ARROW ROAD, ARCHER TARGET, THE, THE SUPPORT ROAD SYSTEM TO PALMETTO BAY, UH, C PINE CIRCLE ITSELF AND THE ROADWAY SYSTEM ABOUT IT.
RELIEF VALVES, UH, POPE AVENUE TO
THIS ALSO INCLUDES LAGOON AS WELL.
LAGOON ROAD, SECTION OF LAGOON TO, UH, TO ETH.
AND THEN, UH, NORTH, NORTH AND SOUTH FOR BEACHES FOR, UH, A CERTAIN EXTENT AS THOSE STRETCHES INFLUENCE, UH, AND ARE AFFECTED BY CONEY CIRCLE.
THEN THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY.
UH, AS WE KNOW, THE TOOL TOLL BOOTHS HAVE RECENTLY COME DOWN.
REP PAVED, UH, AND, AND MODESTY RENOVATED CORRIDOR HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE.
WE NEED SOME BICYCLE, UM, AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
SO THAT IS FROM THE, THE BASE OF THE,
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THE BRIDGE, UH, OUT TO THE, UH, 2 78, THE PARKWAY.IT ALSO INCLUDES THE FRAZIER BRIDGE ITSELF AND THE APPROACHES AS, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS, THERE'S SOME FOLKS WHO USE THAT BRIDGE FOR PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ACTIVITY.
SO THE PRIORITIZATION OF THAT, AGAIN, SAFETY CONNECTIVITY.
WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT ALL MODES OF TRAFFIC CAN GET TO ALL PLACES THROUGH THIS BACKBONE, WHICH LEADS TO THE SKELETON OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC DOMAIN OF THE ISLAND.
NOT ALL CORRIDORS ARE THE SAME.
NOT ALL PARTS OF THE ISLAND ARE THE SAME.
WE'RE ALWAYS, ALWAYS GIVING DEFERENCE TO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OF THE ISLAND.
NOT JUST TO PROTECT IT, BUT IN FACT IN MANY PLACES, TO RESTORE AND TO ENHANCE IT CUZ IT HAS BEEN DAMAGED AND IT IS UNDER STRESS LIKE ANY OTHER NATURAL ENVIRONMENT THAT, UH, PERCEIVES YOU FOR THE SAFETY.
UH, GO TO THOSE HIGH CRASH AREAS AND DEAL WITH THEM.
NEW CONTROLS AND CONFIGURATIONS AT INTERSECTIONS TO MAKE THEM SAFER.
ACCESS MANAGEMENT, WHICH MEANS REDUCING THOSE LEFT TURN MOTIONS OUT ONTO ARTERIALS, TURN LANE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, IMPROVEMENTS OF UNSIGNED MID-BLOCK CROSSINGS, PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, REDUCTION OF THOSE CONFLICT POINTS.
CONNECTIVITY IS FILL THE GAPS IN THE PATHWAY.
AS WONDERFUL AS OUR PATHWAY SYSTEM IS, IT DOESN'T CONNECT EVERY PLACE TO EVERY PLACE.
SO WE DO NEED TO FILL IN THE BLANKS, AS IT WERE.
WE NEED TO CREATE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS, NOT JUST TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS, BUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE PART OF, OF TOWN.
UM, TOWN JURISDICTION, CONNECTIONS TO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE SEPARATED BY ROADWAYS.
HOW DO WE MAKE THOSE CROSSING SAFE SO I CAN GET FROM ONE SIDE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE OTHER SIDE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THROUGH SAFE MEANS AND REDUCE THOSE PATHWAY CONFLICTS.
PLACEMAKING, AGAIN, IS ALWAYS TO IMPROVE THE ISLAND CHARACTER BUILT HEAD ISLAND IS A VERY, VERY SPECIAL PLACE.
CULTURALLY, HISTORICALLY, ENVIRONMENTALLY.
HOW DO WE, UH, HOW DO WE IMPROVE AND ADVANCE THAT SIGNATURE CORRIDORS WITHIN A STREET NETWORK, UH, WILL, MAY WANT TO BE A VERY SPECIAL PLACE.
LET'S CREATE A SPECIAL PLACE THROUGH, UH, THROUGH SOME OF OUR STANDARDS.
UM, SIGNIFICANT AESTHETIC AND CHARACTER IMPROVEMENTS WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN SATISFY A SAFETY MEASURE AND ALSO DO IT IN AN AESTHETICALLY PLEASING WAY.
THOSE TWO ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
IT JUST TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE BRAIN DAMAGE FROM TIME TO TIME WHEN WE'RE INTO.
AND THEN, UH, MEDIAN RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENHANCE THE AESTHETIC.
HOW DO WE REDUCE THE, UH, UH, THE, THE, THE DESIRE FOR, UM, INCREASED TRAFFIC SPEEDS WITH A MORE ROBUST MEDIUMS, NOT ONLY TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC, BUT TO INCREASE FOR THE PRIORITIZATION OF COUNCILMAN STANFORD.
TO YOUR POINT, UM, WE HAVE PRIORITIZED PARKWAY INTO THREE SIGNIFICANT SEGMENTS THAT NEEDS SOME IMPROVEMENTS AS A PRIORITY IN OUR OPINIONS.
UH, PALMETTO BAY ROAD AND ARROW SEED, PINE CIRCLE TO BE SURE.
AND THEN POPE AVENUE, ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, AS YOU KNOW, POPE AVENUE IS A FAIRLY
ALL RIGHT, GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE AND STOP THERE FOR A MOMENT FOR QUESTION.
SO, UM, THIS IS PRIORITIZATION THAT THE TEAM HAS DEVELOPED, UM, AND IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO REVISIT THIS AFTER WE, AFTER THE COUNCIL LOOKS AT ALL THESE SEGMENT IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, CUZ I HAVE A FEW NOTES AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PRIORITIZATION, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE MORE HELPFUL TO TALK ABOUT THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH.
THIS IS, THIS IS ALL FIRST BLUSH, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, SANDS YOUR INPUT.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOUR INPUT AGAIN TODAY.
AND BRIAN, LOOKING FORWARD, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GONNA JUMP IN FOR A SECOND.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE TERM PRIORITY SEGMENTS HERE IS PROBABLY NOT ACCURATE.
UM, THESE ARE SEGMENTS THAT COUNCIL ASKED US TO STUDY IN DETAIL, UM, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BROUGHT THESE FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION.
IT'S UP TO TOWN COUNCIL ULTIMATELY TO TELL US WHAT THE PRIORITY SEGMENTS ARE.
UM, BUT WE'VE EVALUATED THESE IN DETAIL AND HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'LL COVER HERE SHORTLY.
UM, SOME ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE SORT OF A SINGLE TREATMENT APPLICATION OF THE, OF THE SYSTEMS, AND THEN SOME HAVE OPTIONS THAT WE WOULD ASK FOR SOME INPUT ON.
UM, BUT YEAH, I WANNA MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.
THESE ARE FIRST, FIRST AREAS ASKED TO REALLY TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.
SEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA IF YOU TAKE THESE SEGMENTS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, INVEST IN THEM TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS? WHAT TIME PERIOD THAT
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MIGHT BE? UM, I, I DON'T KNOW.I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ALL OF IT WOULD COST, UM, LET ALONE THE COMPETING PRO PROJECTS AND PRIORITIES THAT WE, UM, I KNOW THAT IF WE PICK A FEW AND THERE'S A, AND THERE'S SOME AT THE END OF THIS THAT WE KNOW WE CAN ADVANCE IN THE SHORTER TERM.
UM, I I THINK WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL AND ALSO THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND EXPECTATIONS AND COMMITMENT KIND OF A PROJECT.
YEAH, I THINK ONCE WE GET INPUT ON THESE SEGMENTS, UM, AND THEN THE, THE PLAN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, BEFORE ADOPTION, HAVE MORE DETAIL ON THE IMPLEMENTATION AND HOW LONG THAT MIGHT TAKE TO, TO IMPLEMENT THESE, THESE Q I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS WITH D O T FOR APPROVAL PROCESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS.
SO, SO WE CAN DETERMINE THAT TIMEFRAME CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE A, A DRIVER AS WELL.
I'M CERTAIN WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC, UM, CAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, UM, BEFORE, UH, AS PLANNED EARLIER THIS YEAR IN THIS TYPE OF WORKSHOP SETTING, THINK IT WAS SOMEWHAT OF A CONSENSUS AMONG COUNCIL THAT, UH, W H P SEGMENT THREE, I THINK, WHICH IS THE NORTHRIDGE AREA, UM, IS ABSOLUTELY A PRIORITY CAUSE OF THE LEVEL OF FATALITIES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THAT AREA.
UM, SO I GUESS I'M, I'M SUGGESTING THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE IT IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES HERE, OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT TO ADHERE TO, UH, OTHER SCHEDULES LIKE S C D O T AND THAT SORT OF THING, UM, THAT WE CALL THAT SECTION OUT MOVING FORWARD AS THE PRIORITIES.
UM, SO THAT WE KNOW WE ARE COMMITTED TO GETTING THAT DONE BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE GETS KILLED.
UM, I'M MAKING THAT SUGGESTION TO ALL OF COUNCIL, UM, AND IT WOULD STAFF THAT DIRECTIVE.
I, I WOULD AGREE WITH ALEX ON THAT POINT, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RAISE, UH, CONSIDER AND THE FACT THAT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS MAY TAKE YEARS, FIND SOME INTERIM SOLUTIONS.
SO WITH THE, THE MOST CONVENIENT PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD, NOT JUST RELY SOLELY ON WHAT'S GONNA BE DONE IN TWO OR THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
I, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO INTERJECT IN, IN TERMS OF SOMETHING THAT TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IN OTHER AREAS THAT PART OF THIS CONVERSATION, UM, THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE IS INFORMATION ON, UM, THE COSTS TO ACQUIRE THE ROADS IN OUR TOWN.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR HILTON HEAD TO OWN OUR ROADS AS MANY OF THEM AS WE CAN SO THAT WE CAN ENVIRONMENT, UM, THAT BENEFITS OUR COMMUNITY.
SO PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE COST AND THE RELATED ISSUES ARE TO DOING THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S ALREADY TAKING PLACE.
IT'S INTEGRAL TO WHAT WE CAN DO, HOW LONG IT TAKES AND THE BENEFIT, THE ULTIMATE BENEFIT THAT COMES FROM IT.
SO I, I CAN SEE THE BENEFIT OF THE TOWN ACQUIRING THESE ROADWAYS, UH, FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW.
BUT MY BIG CONCERN HERE IS THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY TAKING ON OWNERSHIP OR TAKING ON MAINTENANCE, AND THAT'S GONNA BE AN ENORMOUS EXPENSE, AND I'M NOT PREPARED TO ACCEPT THAT AT THIS POINT, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE BEFORE I CAN MAKE THAT CONCLUSION.
MARK, I THINK IT'S ALL BEEN SAID.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA REALLY MAKE SURE WE, WE HIT THE POINT.
I THINK SEAN SAID IT WELL ALREADY, BUT YOU, YOU ASKED ABOUT PRIORITIZATION.
MR. BROWN BRINGS UP A A GREAT POINT THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT THAT WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY, SEGMENT THREE, WE, WE MARRIED THAT PRIORITY WITH YOUR THOUGHTS, WITH THE COMMUNITY THOUGHTS AS WELL AS THE, THE ACCIDENT DATA YOU SAW IN THE, ON THE HEAT MAP, BUT THE PRIORITIZATION'S REALLY BUILT AROUND YOUR COMMITMENT AND FUNDING, RIGHT? AND SO ULTIMATELY, THE WORK PRODUCT OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON HERE DOES TWO THINGS.
IT BUILDS A PROJECT LIST AND IT GIVES US DIRECTION ON POLICY, RIGHT? POLICY BEING OWNER ROAD OR NOT.
OWNER ROAD 45 MILES AN HOUR OR LESS STRIPING PATTERNS.
ALL OF THOSE ARE POLICY DECISIONS, BUT ULTIMATELY YOU BUILD THAT PROJECT LIST AND THAT PROJECT LIST, ONCE WE HAVE IT, WE GO TRY TO FUND IT RIGHT THROUGH GRANTS THROUGH 1 CENT SALES TAX, WHICH COULD BE NEXT YEAR THROUGH OUR OWN CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS AND SO ON SO FORTH.
SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS HIGH LEVEL TRYING TO BUILD A PROJECT LIST, GETTING SOME DIRECTION ON POLICY, AND I DO SUGGEST THAT IF WE'RE CONSIDERING OWNERSHIP OF RHODES, WE TALK WITH D O T ABOUT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMPLISH
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WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH IT, THEIR NETWORK.BUT IF WE CAN'T, THEN I BRING THOSE PROBLEMS TO YOU WITH SOME PROPOSED SOLUTIONS, UM, ON A PRIORITY BY PRIORITY BASIS.
IF I COULD, I, I, I WANNA SECOND WHAT MR. BROWN IS SAYING.
WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THAT PARTICULAR SECTION AT OUR JANUARY WORKSHOP.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WAS EVEN SO BOLD IN MARCH TO SAY, IF THERE CAN BE AN INTERIM SOLUTION AT NORTH FORK AND, AND IF IT'S PLANTING IN THE MEDIAN, I'LL HAUL THOSE PLANTS OUT TO THE MIDDLE OF THE, SO, SO WHEN YOU COME TO THAT SEGMENT, IF THERE IS AN INTERIM SOLUTION, WHICH IS EASILY DOABLE, PLEASE TELL US THAT.
SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE IT A GENERAL STATEMENT.
UM, WHILE THIS IS A 50,000 FOOT OVERVIEW, IT'S, IT'S NOT UNDER THE MINUTIAE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE GOT SOME AREAS THAT ARE HIGH PRIORITIES AND WE KNOW THAT, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE PROVIDE OUR NOTES TO MARK IN THE, IN THE, IN THE MK SK THAT WE IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS THERE, UM, IT IS A VERY LONG PRESENTATION.
WE'LL MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE CONTINUALLY MOVE THROUGH THIS AND WE GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
SO WE UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS BEING LOOKED AT HOLISTICALLY, UM, THROUGHOUT THAT CORRIDOR.
UH, CAN I JUST HAVE ONE THING ABOUT PRIORITIZATION BEFORE WE JUMP AWAY FROM THAT SLIDE? UM, WE DID DO A RANKING SYSTEM OF ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS MADE.
UM, AND IN THE, IN THE LARGER DOCUMENT, YOU'LL HAVE THAT IN THERE AS A REFERENCE.
AND THESE ARE THE SEGMENTS, UM, THAT GREATLY, THAT HAD THE MOST BENEFIT WITH THE IMPLEMENTATIONS THAT, SO THAT, THAT IS HOW THESE, UH, SIX OR SO WERE DEVELOPED, NOT, NOT MY PERSONAL.
SO TRAVEL SPEEDS BEING ONE OF THOSE SAFETY ISSUES.
UM, WE, WE'VE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, AS YOU SEE RISE IN THE LOWER RIGHT OF, UH, SOME PROPOSED SPEED LIMIT CHANGES.
PARKWAY NOW IS CONSISTENTLY, UH, AND LARGELY 45 MILES AN HOUR.
WE THINK THERE ARE SEGMENTS OF THAT THAT CAN AND SHOULD BE SLOWED DOWN, UH, ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE STRAIGHTAWAYS, AS I CALL THEM, UH, IN AN EFFORT JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO RESPOND TO, UH, HAPPENING AROUND THEM.
I'M GONNA LET, UH, JONATHAN GUY SPEAK TO SOME OF THE, AND ADDIE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE DETAIL OF THIS.
BUT THIS IS, UH, THIS, UH, SEGMENT TWO, WHICH WE'RE PROPOSING IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER FOR THIS, UH, THE IDEA OF PROPOSED PATHWAYS INTERSECTIONS.
ALL OF THE, UH, SIGNALIZE INTERSECTIONS NEED TO HAVE FOUR CORNER PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, INCLUDING PEMBROKE AS WELL, INCLUDING PEMBROKE, UH, APOLOGIES FOR THE SECOND SQUARE FROM THE LEFT OF NOT BEING COLOR CODED.
IT TOO NEEDS TO HAVE BOX RIGHT TURN TRAFFIC CALMING SO THAT WE CAN AUTOMOBILES AND PEOPLE, UH, SIMPLY COMPLETE THE PATHWAY ALONG THE, UH, THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARKWAY FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS, UH, ELIMINATE THE MID, ELIMINATE THE MID-BLOCK CROSSING AT CENTRAL AVENUE, CAUSING THOSE PEDESTRIANS THEN TO MOVE TO CROSSWALK AND SIGNALIZE INTERSECTIONS FOR SAFER.
CROSS MAIN STREET IS PART AND PARCEL OF, OF THIS, UM, AND DESIGN HAPPENING ON THE PARK ON THIS MAIN STREET PORTION ITSELF, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, WHICH THROUGH SOME SEGMENTS THERE AGAIN, WE'VE BROKEN THIS DOWN INTO INCREMENTAL PIECES AND SHOW CROSS SECTIONS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
PROVIDING INTENTIONAL PATHWAYS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET, UH, PEDESTRIAN BUFFER BETWEEN THE VEHICULAR WAY, PUTTING BIKE LANES ON THE, UH, ON THE STREET ITSELF.
WE'VE GOT A, A VIDEO WE'RE ABOUT TO SHOW YOU THAT EXPRESSES THIS IN THREE DIMENSIONS.
SO, UH, I PERSONALLY DON'T READ SECTIONS WELL, BUT THREE DIMENSIONAL IMAGES.
UH, I I DO THIS, UH, IN MANY CASES REQUIRES SOME EASEMENT TO BE TAKEN OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.
NEXT SEGMENT GOING TO WHOOPING CRANE IS A, A WIDER CONCRETE SIDEWALK AND LIVES, AGAIN, PARTIALLY WITHIN A BICYCLIST, LARGELY ON THE STREET, UH, OR DARE I SAY THE COMMERCIAL AREA OF MAIN STREET.
SO MORE SIDEWALK MALL, MORE MULTI-USE OF THE SIDEWALK IS, IS IMPORTANT.
UM, MOVING TO THE SOUTH OF WHOOPING CRANE, ANOTHER SECTION
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SHOWING THE, UH, HOTTEST MEDIAN PLANTED TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC IN ONE DIRECTION.BICYCLIST, AND AGAIN, SIDEWALK CIRCLE ITSELF WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE, WE PLACE A CIRCLE AT WILBORN AND MAIN STREET.
THAT IS A DISJOINTED INTERSECTION AS MANY OF US KNOW THAT GO THROUGH THAT.
BUT THAT CONTINUOUS MOVEMENT THAT ROUNDABOUT WOULD PROVIDE US IS GOING TO HELP A LOT WITH THAT EFFICIENCY SOLVE SOME OF THE OFFSET GEOMETRY OF THE ROADWAY SYSTEM, WHICH IS CONFLICT POINT RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RECOMMENDATION OF EIGHT FOOT PATHWAY AND AT THE SAME TIME A RECOMMENDATION OF 12 FOOT PATHWAY, BUT WHAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED, JOAN, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? SO, UM, IN THE, WHERE THE 12 FOOT IS RECOMMENDED, UM, THAT'S IN THE SLIGHTLY DENSER, UM, ADJACENT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
UM, SO THE THOUGHT WAS IS THAT THAT WOULD PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR, UM, ON SIDEWALK EVENTS, FOR THINGS TO HAPPEN IN THERE.
AND THEN ESSENTIALLY IT'S EIGHT FOOT CLEAR PATHWAY.
UM, AND IN THIS CASE WE HAVE TREES, UM, AND PLANTINGS THAT HAPPEN ON A REGULAR SPACING, UM, THAT INTERRUPT THAT 12 FOOT.
SO, BUT SEPARATE SPACES ALONG THE ROAD, THERE'LL BE DIFFERENT FOOT.
UM, IN COMPARISON, THE EXISTING FAIRLY NEW SIDEWALK ALONG HOPE AVENUE, WHAT'S THE WIDTH OF THAT? STAND BY? LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION PARK, UH, OAK AVENUE ON, UH, IT'S BETWEEN 10 AND 12 FEET.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S WIDER.
10 OR 12 FEET RIGHT IN FRONT OF LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION ON, IT'S PROBABLY, IT'S IN THAT, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO 12 FEET IN THAT SECTION AND WIDE ACROSS THE STREET ON, UH, IN, IN FRONT OF THE MARRIOTT.
I THINK THAT MIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE, YEAH, THAT, THAT HELPS THE, THE VISUAL OF THAT WHERE WE HAVE EXISTING, WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WIDTHS ON OUR PATHWAYS
WE HAVE A LITTLE VIDEO ABOUT, AND YOU CAN NOTICE, SO IN WILLIAM HI, WHEN WE STARTED THE SEGMENT TOO, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT WILLIAM MILTON PARKWAY IN THOSE INTERSECTIONS, THAT'S APPLICATION OF THE SYSTEMS TO THOSE AREAS.
SO WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING OPTIONS JUST LIKE HERE, THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ROUNDABOUT AT WILBORN AND MAIN STREET.
UM, AND SO WE'LL WALK THROUGH THE SEGMENT, WE'LL SHOW YOU A VIDEO, UM, AND THEN THERE WILL BE SOME AREAS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT SEGMENT THREE, WHERE WE DO HAVE THOSE OPTIONS.
SO IF, IF YOU SEE ANYTHING IN SEGMENT TWO THAT YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST A RECOMMENDED TREATMENT WITHOUT OBJECTION, UM, OR COMMENTS THAT WILL COME SUBSEQUENT TO THIS MEETING, WE WOULD ADVANCE THOSE AS ACCEPTABLE.
SO WHERE IT SAYS TALKING POINTS, THOSE ARE NOT FOR US TO TALK ABOUT AND CHOOSE TELLING US WHAT YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO DO.
I THINK THESE KIND OF TALKING POINTS ARE WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, GETTING YOUR INPUT AND YOUR, OKAY.
UM, YOU WENT THROUGH IT REALLY QUICKLY.
UM, AND UM, I'M GLAD I'M NOT SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THE INDIVIDUAL BUBBLES, SO
IF, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ROUNDABOUT, I THINK THAT'LL BE EXPLAINED THROUGH THE VIDEO.
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS, UM, FOR INSTANCE, THE OVERALL PLAN IN IN LONDON HAVE PAGE NUMBERS, UM, THAT I COULD READ.
UM, BUT THERE'S TALKING 0.1, TALKING 0.2, TALKING POINT, UM, THREE, UM, IN W H P TWO.
UM, SO THOSE ARE A LOT OF KEY INTERSECTIONS IN THAT AREA THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY AREA.
SO, UH, BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT ARE WE DOING THERE AND HOW DOES THAT IMPROVE SAFETY? YEAH, I THINK IT, AS A WALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE, UM, SLIDES, TALKING 0.1 INTERSECTION SHOULD SAFETY, THEY TALKED ABOUT HAVING THE FOUR CORNERS, THAT CONSISTENT TREATMENT WITH CROSSWALKS.
UM, TALKING POINT TOO ABOUT PATHWAYS AND CROSSINGS TO HAVE THAT CONSISTENT TREATMENT TO ADD THE SEGMENT, UM, THE MISSING SEGMENTS OF, OF PATHWAYS THAT EXIST IN THAT, IN THAT SEGMENT, IN THAT MID BLOCK CROSSINGS.
UM, TALK ABOUT REMOVING MID-BLOCK CROSSINGS, UM, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER SPOTS WHERE ADDITIONAL, A DIFFERENT TREATMENT, UH, FOR SIGNALIZE MID-BLOCK CROSSINGS MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE.
SO I THINK THAT WAS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO COVER AT A HIGH LEVEL TO SAY, HERE'S ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS,
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UM, WITHIN THAT SEGMENT AT, AT THIS HIGH LEVEL.SO THE, THE, THE, UM, THE FOUR CORNER TREATMENT WHERE IT'S ALL THE SAME, THAT GOES BACK TO THE SYSTEMS OF WHAT THIS, WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
UH, BUT WE ARE TAKING OUT OR ADDING MID-BLOCK CROSSINGS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT THOSE OUT, UM, IN EACH OF THESE SEGMENTS.
SO WHERE IS THE, SO LOOKING AT W H P TWO, WHERE IS THE, UM, MID-BLOCK CROSSING COUNCIL ELIMINATED COUNCIL? IT'S, IT'S ON THE SLIDE HERE.
THIS, THAT'S THE BLOCK CROSSING AT, UH, CENTRAL AVENUE, AT CENTRAL AVENUE.
JUST MAKE A COMMENT AND MAYBE A SUGGESTION.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE SEEING THIS AND ABLE TO HEAR THE EXPLANATION OF WHAT IT IS WE'RE SEEING.
UM, MAYOR, YOU MADE A SUGGESTION ABOUT OUR NOTES THAT WE SUBMIT THAT, RIGHT? I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO LISTEN CAREFULLY, TAKE IT ALL IN, BUT THERE'S OBVIOUSLY HOMEWORK TO DO TO COMBINE THE TWO REPORTS TO COME UP WITH MORE POINT.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE THEIR GUT REACTIONS.
AND, AND I THINK TO BE MORE SPECIFIC AND HELPFUL ALONG THE LINE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, WE, WE TAKE WHAT WE GATHER TODAY, DO OUR HOMEWORK AND SEND NOTES, HAVE ANOTHER MEETING SO THAT IT CAN BE, UM, FAR MORE SPECIFIC AS TO EACH ONE OF THE ELEMENTS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE ANYWAY.
THAT THAT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE.
AND THIS IS A, A MAJOR DOCUMENT UNDERTAKING, UM, THAT REQUIRES NOT ONLY A LOT OF CONVERSATION AMONGST OURSELVES AND THE COMMUNITY, BUT WITH OUR OTHER PARTNERS WITH THE PUDS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT'S, IT'S MEETING THE NEEDS AND THERE'S A LOT OF UNDERSTANDING THAT STILL NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.
SO DEFINITELY WE NEED TO TAKE OUR NOTES AND, AND SUBMIT THEM.
UM, ALEX, I KNOW YOU HAD A COMMENT.
I'M MAKING A NOTE AND I WILL SEND IT IN
COUNSEL, WE'LL SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH, I, I APPRECIATE TRYING TO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WHAT WAS THAT? WE CAN TAKE ALL DAY AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, BUT, UH, BRIAN, LET ME ASK A QUESTION OR SHAWN, UH, WE'RE DEALING AT A FAIRLY CON CONCEPTUAL LEVEL AT THIS POINT.
AREN'T WE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH MORE DETAILED PLANS LATER ON WHERE THIS DISCUSSION WOULD BE ADDRESSED? JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH DETAILED INFORMATION WE NEED TODAY AS OPPOSED TO THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE PLAN TODAY IT IS APPLICATION OF THE SYSTEMS TO THESE KEY AREAS WITHIN THE SEGMENTS.
IT'S AT, IT'S AT A HIGH LEVEL.
UM, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING HERE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE SLIDE ELIMINATED ELIMINATION OF MID BLOCK CROSSING TO PROVIDE CONSISTENT TREATMENTS AT THE OTHER INTERSECTIONS TO ADD PATHWAYS, SEGMENTS WHERE THEY'RE MISSING, UM, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED PREVIOUS THAT HAD A PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ON WITH THE PATHWAYS APPLICATION OF THE CERTAIN TYPE OF CROSSWALK AND, AND STRIPING PATTERN.
UM, AND SO WE CAN GO SLOW TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS OF WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
IF, IF, IF I MIGHT, WE'RE GONNA BE COMING BACK WITH THIS BROKEN DOWN INTO SMALLER SEGMENTS SO THAT WE CAN SPEND THE TIME UNDERSTANDING AND ASKING THE MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS, UM, TO DETERMINE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT IS GONNA BE BASED UPON THE PRIORITIZATION THAT WE GIVE WITHIN THE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR US TO DO OUR HOMEWORK, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND, AND TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE BROKEN DOWN TO SMALLER GROUPS.
LOTS MORE DETAIL, LOTS MORE ENGINEERING.
RIGHT? AND I'M GONNA REITERATE THAT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE, WE, WE'VE TRIED TO CLARIFY THAT AND I, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT WHERE, WHERE DO WE START? RIGHT? WE COULD HAVE BROUGHT YOU MAIN STREET BY ITSELF.
WE COULD HAVE BROUGHT YOU BOTH BY ITSELF.
WE COULD HAVE BROUGHT YOU WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY THREE DASH THREE BY ITSELF, BUT WOULD WE HAVE BEEN ASKED WHAT'S THE BIG PICTURE? SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET THROUGH BIG PICTURE, BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT MS. BRYSON'S ASKING BECAUSE I I'M TRYING TO KEEP UP TOO.
LET'S, LET'S JUST PAUSE FOR A SECOND, TALK ABOUT THOSE TALKING POINTS, BUT NO, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO HEAR YOUR REACTION RIGHT NOW.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION HERE, AT LEAST ON THIS ONE, TALKING 0.3, THAT MID-BLOCK CROSSING AT THAT INTERSECTION IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.
I CRINGE A LOT OF US CRINGE WHEN WE DRIVE THROUGH.
OUR HARD RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS, YEAH, WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T BELIEVE IT BELONGS THERE.
AND IF, AND IF WE'RE GONNA CROSS THE STREET, THERE'S OTHER ELEMENTS IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT WILL SHOW US HOW TO CROSS THE STREET SAFER.
AND SO, YEAH, LET'S JUST PAUSE AT THE TALKING POINT, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL
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AS AN EXAMPLE WITH WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY DASH TWO AS A STREET SECTION BEFORE WE SPEND MUCH MORE TIME, MONEY, ENERGY, OR ENCROACHMENT PERMIT ON THIS TYPE OF WORK.I, I DID SUBMIT ABOUT AT LEAST A 14 POINT, UM, COMMENT YESTERDAY, SO I'VE ALREADY DONE THAT TODAY, IS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE GRAPHICS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SHOW US IN THESE BITTY, BITTY GRAPHICS.
BACK ON TO MAIN STREET, A A AGAIN, WE SHOULD HAVE PUT THE VIDEO MAYBE FIRST AND THEN THE SECTIONS SECOND.
IT'S, IT'S MORE UNDERSTANDABLE, PLEASE, WHEN YOU FLY THROUGH VOLUME, LOWER YOUR MICROPHONE CLOSER, YOUR HONOR.
SORRY, MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR MY VOICE THAT LOUD.
UH, AGAIN, MEDIA MEDIANS HAVE BEEN, UH, PLANTED WITH ALLOWED FOR MORE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE AREAS, UH, CONVERTING THIS INTERSECTION, UM, UH, INTO, UH, UH, INTO A ROUNDABOUT AGAIN TO INCREASE THAT TRAFFIC EFFICIENCY AND RESOLVE, UH, WHAT HAS BEEN PRETTY TROUBLESOME.
I KNOW STAFF HAS STRUGGLED WITH THIS INTERSECTION FOR YEARS FROM A TRAFFIC MOVEMENT STANDPOINT.
UH, SO THIS ROUNDABOUT SATISFIES A LOT OF ISSUES, UH, THAT ROADWAY GEOMETRY AND MINIMIZING THOSE CONFLICT POINTS.
SO THESE ARE APPLYING THOSE STREETSCAPES STANDARDS, VARIOUS INTERSECTIONS, CROSSWALKS, CROSSWALKS AND QUEING SPACES ON THE, UH, WALKWAYS LEADING TO THOSE CROSSWALKS.
SO THE SAME STANDARDS WE'RE USING ELSEWHERE ARE BEING APPLIED HERE.
UH, WHOOPING CRANE, UH, TRAFFIC CIRCLE, PROVIDING FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT THE FOUR LEGS.
SAME WITH THIS, UH, THIS ROUNDABOUT AT HOSPITAL CENTER.
TONY, I'M GONNA, OR KIM, I'LL ASK YOU TO MAYBE GET THAT VIDEO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
JUST, UH, FOUR AND A HALF MINUTES LONG, BUT IT'S TRAVELING WESTBOUND TOWARD WILBURN VOLUME.
THERE'S NOTHING, NO ELEVATOR MUSIC.
IT'S, IT'S INTENTIONALLY SPED UP FOR THE, FOR THE NATURE OF THE VIEWING.
SO THERE'S THE PROPOSED CONDITION LAID OVER THE EXISTING ROADWAY, 11 FOOT TRAVEL LANES, BIKE LANES ON THE, ON THE STREET, FIVE FOOT WIDE BIKE LANES AND BUFFER LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
SO, UM, COUNCIL STAFFORD, STANFORD, YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE WE'VE GOT THAT, THAT WIDENED PATHWAY, BUT WE'VE GOT THE PLANTERS THAT ARE CURBSIDE.
THOSE, THOSE, AGAIN, THIS FINAL DESIGN HAPPENS.
THOSE MAY BE INCREASED OR DIMINISHED, BUT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THE PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT.
DOES THIS REQUIRE ACQUISITION TOMORROW? RIGHT OF WAY? IN SOME PLACES IT'LL REQUIRE, UH, ACQUISITION OF AT LEAST EASEMENTS, TAKING THE, THE MEDIAN IN SOME OF THESE INSTANCES AND PUTTING THEM INTO THE PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT, WHICH CAUSES TO PUSH OUT.
THIS IS AT WHOOPING CRANE CIRCLE, AND SOME PLACES YOU'LL SEE WE'VE PUSHED IN.
SO THE, THE MEDIAN HAS GOTTEN DIMINISHED OR, OR REMOVED IN PLACES TO ACCOMMODATE SIDEWALKS ON THE OUTSIDE.
UH, SO THAT WE ARE IMPACTING THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTIES LESS BY SACRIFICING SOME OF THAT MEDIAN SPACE.
I'M, I'M HOPING THOSE TREES ARE THAT WE HAVEN'T WORKED FROM A SURVEY, HAVEN'T WORKED ON THIS, UH,
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TO THAT DEGREE, THOSE TREES CAN BE IDENTIFIED AND WE CAN ADJUST AS NEED BE TO SAVE SIGNIFICANT TREES.COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
AND THAT PLANTER MAY BE SOMETHING THAT'S ELONGATED.
THAT COULD EVEN BE A, A TREE, LAWN, NOT JUST A PLANTER WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
DAVID, ALSO, ONE OF MY GUT REACTIONS IS I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH BICYCLES ON THE ROAD.
UM, WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE, WE ENCOURAGE MORE TO TRAVEL BY BICYCLE, AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT A SINGLE PERSON ON A BICYCLE.
IT'S OFTEN GROUPS OF PEOPLE ON BICYCLES CARRYING A TRAIN OF CONNECTORS BEHIND THEM WITH THEIR DOGS AND FAMILY.
UM, AND IT, IT, FOR ME FEELS, HONESTLY GUT REACTION IS IT GIVES ME AJU, UH, IT MAKES ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THE DANGERS AND THE HAZARDS.
UM, ADDIE, IS THAT RECOMMENDATION PRIMARILY GIVEN BECAUSE OF SPEED THAT YOU WOULD BE ALSO RECOMMENDING ON THAT ROAD? I'M NOT SURE OF THE SPEED.
IS IT 25 MILES PER HOUR THROUGH THERE? BUT I, SO THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION.
I MEAN, A BIG COMFORTABLE BIKE LANE I THINK IS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS OF GROUP RIDER, AND THAT'S WHAT THE GUIDELINES FROM ASTRO ARE COMING OUT WITH MORE PEOPLE LIKE TO SOCIAL RIDE.
AND SO IT'S A BIGGER SPACE THAT WILL, IT'S NOT JUST THE, THE WRITERS WHO BYPASS PEOPLE LIKE, OR BIKES, ET CETERA, MIGHT DO, BUT IT'S THOSE GROUP WRITERS, THE FAMILIES AND THE REST.
AND IT JUST FOR ME, DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT.
AND IT, AND IT WORRIES ME AND I WOULD TRUST TO SUPPORT, I THINK AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, FROM LOOKING AT A LOT OF BIKE LANES IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, IS THAT THERE'S KIND OF CYCLIST, IF YOU WILL, THOSE WHO WOULD BE ON THE PATHWAYS THAT ARE RECREATIONAL CYCLISTS, THOSE WHO ARE PROBABLY GOING IN A BIKE LANE, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRAVELING FROM WORK TO ANOTHER PLACE TO AND FROM HOME, OR TO AND FROM, UH, WORK OR, OR, AND, AND I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE TRY TO, TO RIDE THEIR BIKE ALONG THIS ROAD, INCLUDING ME, UM, TO GET FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.
UM, SO I, I THINK AS BEST I UNDERSTAND IT, WIDENING THE SIDEWALKS 12 FEET CAN ACCOMMODATE THOSE RECREATIONAL KIND OF CYCLISTS TO SOMETIMES CYCLISTS AND ADDING THE BIKE LANE, UM, ADDS THAT AVAIL AVAILABILITY FOR THOSE WHO ARE COMMUTING FOR WORK OR, OR SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
OR IF I WANNA GO GET MY NAILS DONE IN, THAT WAS OUR LAST STOP ON THE VIDEO THERE.
I HEAR YOU AND UNDERSTAND THAT.
WELL, UM, IT'S JUST, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY, I WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A DISCRETION, RIGHT? AS TO WHERE YOU CHOOSE TO WRITE YOUR, UH, I'LL, I'LL STAND BY WORDS.
VIDEO IS VERY HELPFUL TO SEE THAT SEGMENT'S COMING ALIVE.
ALL THOSE COMMENTS ARE JULIE NOTED? YES, ALICE? YEAH, I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE VIDEO AS WELL.
UM, BEFORE WE, UH, COME BACK AGAIN, I, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE TREATMENTS ON WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY AS WELL.
UM, PARTICULARLY WITH THE, THE NEW CIRCLE AT WILBORN AND BUS DRIVE.
UM, THERE'S A, UH, GOOD AMOUNT OF STACKING THAT HAPPENS ON WIL WIL HILTON PARKWAY CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY IN THAT AREA.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT WILL PROBABLY, UH, INCREASE WITH THE CIRCLE BEING THERE.
UM, SO I'M JUST INTERESTED IN HOW THAT LOOKS.
UM, THE OTHER THING TO ASK ABOUT, AND, AND MAYBE IT'S IN ONE OF THE SLIDES, AND I, UM, APOLOGIZE FOR NOT CATCHING IT BEFORE, BUT THAT IS COMING FROM, UH, HILTON HEAD PLANTATION TO, UM, 2 78.
THERE'S A DISCONNECT THERE ON A BIKE PATH.
SO HOW DOES ONE GET, UM, OVER TO THE 2 78 BIKE PATH FROM MAIN STREET? AND YES, THAT WOULD BE DONE, BUT NOW YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND, AND THROUGH THE WOODS, UM, ON THIS YEP.
THAT SHOWS, UM, THE INTERCONNECTED BIKE LANE THAT WOULD CONNECT BETWEEN PARKWAY.
SORRY, WHAT? UH, THAT'S KINDA HARD TO SEE.
LET ME SEE IF I, IT'LL BE HARD TO SEE THIS, THE, THE MR. PRICE.
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ASK YOU SPECIFICALLY, ARE YOU TRYING TO CONNECT THE WHOOPING CRANE ROUNDABOUT AREA TO WILLIAM HILL PARKWAY? IF YOU ZOOM IN, YOU WILL SEE GREAT CONNECTION ACROSS ON AS SEAN.THAT'S THE ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS ZOOM IN.
PERHAPS WHEN WE COME BACK, UM, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO CONNECT OFF THAT ROUNDABOUT TO THE PATHWAY SYSTEM THAT'S IN PLACE.
THAT PATHWAY GOES RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD.
YOU DON'T REALLY QUITE SEE IT AND BE CAREFUL THROUGH THERE, BUT IT DOES CONNECT TO WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY.
UM, THERE IS AN INTERCONNECTIVE, SO WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL ZOOM IN QUITE HEAVILY ON THAT.
YEAH, AND I KNOW WHERE THAT IS.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WHEN YOU COME ALONG THE GOLF COURSE TO LEAVE H H P AND YOU GET TO THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, THEN YOU HAVE TO CROSS OVER MAIN STREET.
YOU GO THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER AND THROUGH THE WOODS TO GET TO TUCSON.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING IS HAVE YOU ADDRESSED THAT SOMEWHERE? YES, YES.
YOU WOULD COME ACROSS, OUT OF HILTON, THAT PLANTATION, YOU, YOU'D COME DOWN ACROSS THE ROUNDABOUT AT A, AT A CONNECTION OFF THE ROUNDABOUT, A LITTLE, LITTLE FURTHER BACK FROM THE MAIN CIRCLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A ZOOM IN ON THAT, SEAN, BUT WE, WE, WE DO HAVE A, WE DID HAVE A SLIDE HERE, UM, THAT WAS ADDED FOR THIS PRESENTATION TODAY THAT, UM, HAS THE WHOOPING CRANE CIRCLE THAT SHOWS THE CONNECTIONS INTO THE EXISTING PATHWAY SEGMENT.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE FORWARD IN THE, WHEN WE GET INTO MAIN STREET PLAN, UM, AND THEN THE RED DOTTED LINES TO SHOW THE CONNECTIONS INTO WILLIAMS, INTO WILLIAM INTO, UH,
UM, IT'S THIS SLIDE FOR ALL PLAN.
OH, I, I'M, I'M WITH YOU SEAN.
THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US, SHOWING THAT CONNECTION OUT OF WILLIAM, WHICH WAS A PART OF THE IMPETUS FOR ACQUIRING MAIN STREET FROM THAT BIKE ED MOBILITY STANDPOINT.
UH, I'M GONNA LET MY COLLEAGUE, JONATHAN GUY SPEAK TO, UH, PARKWAY THREE.
THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF CRASH, UH, INCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THIS SEGMENT FROM MATTHEWS ON THE RIGHT OF THIS IMAGE TO BEACH CITY ON THE LEFT MID ISLAND DISTRICT DISTRICT.
CAN YOU MOVE YOUR MICROPHONE CLOSER, PLEASE? IN THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT, IN THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT PLAN, WE, WE SPOKE TO THIS, UM, UH, VEHICULAR CONNECTION THROUGH PRIVATELY, NOW PRIVATELY HELD PROPERTIES TO INTERCONNECT SOME OF THESE ROADWAY SYSTEMS, THE HEAVY BLACK LINE.
SO THAT MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO SOME OF YOU.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE ACCIDENTS AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF MATTHEWS, ALSO BEACH CITY.
AND WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE, UH, FIX SOME OF THOSE RIGHT TURN MOTIONS TO CALM SOME TRAFFIC.
BUT ESTRIN CROSSINGS AT EACH OF THOSE CORNERS AT THE, UH, BEACH CITY INTERSECTION, ELIMINATE THE LEFT TURN.
UM, AND SOME OF THE LEFT TURN ACTS ARE PRONE AREAS.
JONATHAN, I'M GONNA LEAVE THIS TO YOU TO EXPAND UPON IF YOU CAN.
UH, AS WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST CORRIDORS FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT.