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YOU PLEASE JOIN ME WITH YOUR LUNCH ALLEGIANCE, ALL ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL IDENTIFICATION.

WE'LL, UH, WE'LL DECIDE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES UNTIL, UH, WE GET A QUORUM.

UM, ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY THAT, UH, NOT, NOT AGENDA RELATED? NO.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S GO WITH, UH, THE OLD BUSINESS ON THE UPDATE OF OFFICIO MILITARY SEAT ON THE COMMITTEE.

MARY, I THINK YOU WERE GOING TO CHECK WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT THEIR INTEREST WAS.

YES.

SO WE ARE DEFINITELY INTERESTED AND, UM, OUR LEGAL IS LOOKING AT IT, REVIEWING IT, UM, STILL, AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE 2017 J JOINT LAND USE STUDY THAT I THINK WE HAD A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

THAT WAS THE ONE, I GUESS, FOR THE MPC MM-HMM.

.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT AND HOW THAT WORKED A LITTLE BIT MORE.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A NEW CO COMING ON IN JULY, THE CHANGE OF COMMAND.

UM, SO WE WANT ALSO, WE'RE GONNA GET HIS INPUT, BUT UNTIL THEN AND, UM, AND FOREVER OR HOWEVER LONG ME OR DAVE WILL BE, UM, HERE AS WELL FOR THE MEETINGS.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE LIKELY GONNA RECOMMEND HE SEND THE CO SEND A REPRESENTATIVE, WHICH WOULD BE ME OR DAVE TO, TO HELP, OR IF A CO IS NEEDED, WE CAN HAVE THAT TOO, BUT, ALL RIGHT.

THEN WE'LL MOVE THAT TO NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA FOR A VOTE, APPROVAL FOR AN OFFICIAL SEAT, WHICH, WHICH WAS REQUESTED.

UM, WELL, CAN I JUST AS A, FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT, WE'VE GOT A BRAND NEW CEO COMING IN.

I, I BELIEVE THE CEREMONY IS LIKE THE SEVENTH OR SOMETHING.

SEVENTH, YEAH.

WHEN IS, IS THAT, WILL THAT GIVE NEW MEAN? I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A NEW CO COMES IN, BUT I IMAGINE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF BOMBARDED, A LOT OF STUFF COMING IN.

SO I JUST WANNA, IS THAT TOO SOON? UM, WHEN WOULD THE NEXT JULY 28TH.

THIS NEXT JULY 28TH.

YEAH.

I CAN CHECK, BUT IT MIGHT BE OKAY.

WE CAN CONFIRM.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, WE COULD TAKE A, A VOTE ON AN OFFICIAL SEAT AHEAD OF THAT.

CORRECT.

AND SO IF WE GET A QUORUM THIS MORNING, WE CAN DO THAT.

I'M EXPECTING NEW YORK.

I SAID, I SAID, UH, HOPE YOU SHOULD BE HERE SHORTLY.

UH, BUT LET'S MOVE.

WELL, I GUESS I, I'M SORRY.

YEAH, BUT I, I GUESS WE'D LOOK TO LEGAL, YOU WANT A LEGAL REVIEW OF SORT OF ALL THE DOCUMENTS TO SEE WHAT ARE, WHAT'S SORT OF ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED? YEAH.

UM, I, I THINK FROM THE CONVERSATION LAST MONTH, EVERYBODY WAS SORT OF OPEN TO INCLUDING MILITARY AS IN SOME FORM, EX OFFICIO OR, YOU KNOW, A, A FULL SEAT.

SO I, I WOULD SAY WHENEVER, WHENEVER Y'ALL ARE READY, WE WOULD, WE COULD MAKE THE, WE COULD MAKE THE VOTE, BUT YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE NON-VOTING.

OKAY.

YES.

THAT, WHEN IS OUR NEXT MEETING HERE? 28 EIGHTH JULY.

MASC IN GREENVILLE.

OH, WEEK AFTER.

THAT'S THE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION IN GREENVILLE.

WE'RE GONNA BE THERE TOO.

WE'RE ALL GONNA BE, ALL YOUR MUNICIPAL FOLKS ARE GONNA BE IN GREENVILLE.

IN GREENVILLE.

NICE MEETING.

OKAY.

WELL, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A MEETING IN JULY THEN.

YEAH, CANCEL THAT.

OKAY.

AND, YOU KNOW, COUNTY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

GOOD.

GOOD CATCH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, JERRY.

MAYBE AUGUST.

SO ONE MORE TIME.

YEAH.

SO THE CONSENSUS WOULD BE MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING NEXT MONTH WITHOUT THE MUNICIPAL FOLKS.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET A CAR.

YEAH.

CAUSE I THINK ALMOST ALL OF OUR TEAM ARE, OUR ENTIRE TEAM IS GONE AS WELL.

OKAY.

THE ANNUAL MEETING.

SO WE'LL DEFER, I GUESS, UM, UNTIL THE AUGUST MEETING.

IS THAT THE 25TH? THE FOURTH FRIDAY? THAT'S THE FOURTH.

FRIDAY 25TH.

THE 25TH.

25TH.

YEP.

THAT'S FINE.

IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? COME ON IN.

OKAY.

WE NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS.

YEAH.

NOW WE CAN VOTE ON A FEW THINGS.

OH, GOOD MORNING.

MORNING LUNCH.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL BE BACK.

LET ME BACK UP TO THE TOP.

UM, ITEM NUMBER, UH, THREE.

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

UH, ANY COMMENTS, CONCERNS? YOUR MOVE, YOUR APPROVE.

THE MINUTES PRESENTED.

ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, DO YOU WANNA TAKE A VOTE NOW OR DO YOU WANNA WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR BACK REGARDING THE GO BACK? YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT ON AUGUST AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A MEETING IN JULY AS A RESULT OF THIS.

FOLKS GET OUT A MEETING AGREEMENT.

UM, RELATED TO THE MILITARY QUESTION WAS THE QUESTION.

HAVING THIS MEETING BE THE

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FORUM FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS OF MILITARY CONCERN, WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

UM, BUT I, I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION, A PROCESS ON THAT.

UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE DONE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS DEPENDING ON WHAT COMMISSIONER .

UM, WHAT'S THE NORMAL PRO PROCESS FOR REVIEWING A MILITARY COMMENT? AGAIN, YOU HAVE A TIME LIMIT OF THREE MINUTES.

UH, TOTAL TIME LIMIT.

UH, IS IT A TWO-WAY DISCUSSION? JUST A ONE WAY COMMENT? I GUESS TWO THINGS.

FIRST, I GUESS THAT THAT STATEMENT IS AN IF THE MPC GOES AWAY, IF THE MPC GOES AWAY, I MEAN, RIGHT.

WE DON'T NEED TO MOVE IT IF THE MPC STAYS IN PLACE AND RIGHT NOW IT'S STILL IN PLACE AND IT'S NOT A DATE YET TO, TO STOP THAT IS, AM I CORRECT ON YEAH, I CAN GIVE YOU ON THAT.

SO THAT, THAT'S AN IF, I MEAN, I THINK THAT CONVERSATION WAS WHERE DO WE, WHERE DOES IT GO IF IT GOES AWAY RATHER THAN MOVE IT NOW IN THE MIDDLE, IN THE MIDSTREAM? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FAIR.

OKAY.

WAS YOUR HOPE.

UM, SO YEAH, THE NBC STILL STANDS, UM, UH, COUNCIL HAS GIVEN STAFF A DIRECTIVE TO START PREPARING, UM, ALL OF THE NECESSARY LEGAL ORDINANCE DOCUMENTATION AND FINDINGS FOR A COMBINED METROPOLITAN PLAN COMMISSION DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.

SO THE CITY'S WERE, WERE STANDING DOWN OUR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD KIND.

GONNA COMBINE THAT WITH OUR NEW, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, THE IDEA IS CREATING MORE OF A ONE-STOP SHOP TO GIVE A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW.

YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE TALKED, AS WE MOVE MORE INTO FORM-BASED CODES AND BACK TOWARDS TRADITIONAL CITY BUILDING, UNDERSTANDING HOW SITE LAYOUTS WORK COMBINED WITH THE VERTICAL IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO WE THINK HAVING, UM, A BODY THAT'S GOT TALENT OF BOTH SITE STUFF AND GROUND LEVEL STUFF, BUT ALSO HAS SOME ARCHITECTURAL EXPERIENCE AND CAN LOOK AT THE FORM OF THESE STRUCTURES, UH, WILL GET US BETTER DEVELOPMENT PRODUCT OUTCOMES, BUT ALSO CREATE A BIT MORE OF A STREAMLINE AND PREDICTABLE PROCESS FOR APPLICANTS WHO ARE, WHO ARE COMING THROUGH OUR SYSTEM INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO TO TWO SEPARATE DISCRETIONARY BOARDS.

UM, SO THAT'S THE RATIONALE.

OUR TIMING IS IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION IN JULY FOR AN ADVISORY VOTE.

UM, AFTER THE ADVISORY VOTE, IT WILL COME TO CITY COUNCIL.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS OFF DURING THE SUMMER.

SO WE'LL COME BACK THE FOURTH WEEK OF AUGUST FOR OUR FIRST MEETING.

UH, THE INTENT IS FOR THAT TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING THAT LAST WEEK OF AUGUST, THE LAST MEETING OF AUGUST.

UH, AND THEN FOR SECOND, READING THE, UH, FIRST MEETING AND SEPTEMBER, UH, FOR SECOND READING.

WE, SCOTT AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY ABOUT TIMING AND ONCE WE MAKE THE CHANGES, HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE US TO APPOINT A FULL COMPLIMENT AND GET OUR BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.

UM, HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, SUE COSTNER, WHO'S CURRENTLY THE CHAIR OF THE MPC, ABOUT SOME OVERLAP AND SOME FOLKS MOVING OVER, UM, TO HAVE SORT OF A DUAL ROLE, KEEP THE MPC GOING AND THE NEW NEW PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO THERE'S SOME CONTINUITY BETWEEN THE BOARDS, AT LEAST AT THE OUTSET.

UM, ALL THAT SAID, I THINK IN A BEST CASE SCENARIO, WE'VE GOT OUR NEW PLANNING COMMISSION.

D R B STOOD UP BY OCTOBER.

UM, THAT'S AGGRESSIVE .

UM, SO, BUT IT'S MAYBE OCTOBER, YOU KNOW, LATEST OF NOVEMBER BEFORE WE'VE GOT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION STOOD UP IN OPERATING.

ALL THAT BEING SAID, WE, WE INTEND THAT ONCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS STOOD UP, WE WILL START SENDING CITY PROJECTS TO THAT NEW BOARD.

UM, HOWEVER, UNTIL PORT ROYAL HAS STOOD UP THEIR OWN PLANNING COMMISSION, WE WILL CONTINUE TO STAFF, UM, CONTINUE TO HAVE APPOINTEES AND CONTINUE TO, UM, SERVICE THE MPC UNTIL SUCH A TIME YOU TELL US THAT, UM, YOU'RE READY FOR US TO STAY DOWN.

WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW YOUR TIMELINE.

IF YOU GUYS MAKE THAT VOTE, WE'LL FOLLOW YOUR TIMELINE.

OKAY.

START YOURS AND SHUT THE OTHER ONE DOWN.

TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK AND CLEAN, I THINK IS THE WAY TO DO IT.

DOES THE TOWN HAVE PLANS TO DO AWAY WITH YOUR D RV? NO, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT IT.

WE HAVE THEIR CONCERNS, THEY'LL WORK THROUGH THEIR CONCERNS.

SURE.

YEAH.

OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, HE'S SITTING RIGHT OVER THERE.

YEAH.

SORRY TO SEE YOU SNEAKING.

NO ONE IS LOOKING AT IT.

UM, NOAH IS LOOKING AT, IT'S, IT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT, NOAH.

YEAH.

CAUSE THE OTHER THING IS WE'RE GIVING, WE'RE GONNA GIVE OUR PLANNING COMMISSION D R B MORE AUTHORITY.

UM, SO ALL COMMERCIAL PROJECTS IN THE CITY WILL HAVE TO GO AND GET A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW BY, BY THIS NEW BODY.

UM, MULTIFAMILY, WE'RE, RIGHT NOW IT'S 24 UNITS.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE, WE GIVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MORE AUTHORITY OVER MULTI-FAMILY THAN ANY OTHER JURISDICTION.

WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA REDUCE THAT DOWN.

I THINK IT'S WHAT, 10 UNITS NOW, KURT, IS THE RECOMMENDATION.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA SEND MORE STUFF TO OUR NEW PLANNING COMMISSION D RRB, AGAIN, WITH THE HOPE THAT WE GET BETTER DEVELOPMENT OUTCOMES THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

MM-HMM.

, WE'LL BATCH THAT TIMELINE.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST THEN AFTER THE, THE VOTE AND WE DECIDE ON A TIMELINE, THEN THAT'S WHEN IT COMES BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD.

BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW, IF, IF WE VOTE ON ANYTHING NOW, IT'S THAT THIS BOARD IS WILLING TO ACCEPT IT ON THE TIMELINES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHUTDOWN OF THE M PC.

NOT TO MAKE THAT NOW, OR WE JUST WAIT.

I THINK IT COULD BE JUST A DISCUSSION POINT LAST MONTH.

I THINK EVERYBODY WAS LIKE, YEAH, THIS IS THE RIGHT SPOT FOR IT IN THAT WAY.

OKAY.

SO I, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT ON THAT ASPECT.

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UM, I THINK IF ALL THIS HAPPENS THAT, THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT BODY FOR IT, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO THREE DIFFERENT ENTITIES IF THEY HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT, UH, WHATEVER'S GOING ON AT THE MILITARY BASIS THAT THEY'RE, UH, WANTING EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT.

OKAY.

AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR IT.

WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT TOO.

IT'S GONNA BE SOME EDUCATION.

SO, SO WE'LL DEFER THE IMMEDIACY OF ACTION ON THIS ONE UNTIL THERE'S SOME DETERMINATION ABOUT, UH, THE MPC AND WHAT THE TWO MUNICIPALITIES GONNA DO IN RESPONSE TO THAT.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH, I, I'M INTERESTED IN THE ISSUE OF, OF PROCESS ONLY BECAUSE WE KEEP TO OUR, IN ORDER TO KEEP TO OUR HOUR MEETING, WE GET INTO A PUBLIC DISCUSSION.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANTED IT TO BE TWO WAY.

YOU WANT A LIMITED TIMEFRAME OR TIME CAPSULE ON IT.

JUST ALL YOUR YEARS OF SHARING, HOW MANY COMMENTS DID YOU HAVE? PROBABLY NOT MANY OPERATIONS.

ONE ? NO, THAT WAS SHARING.

I DID ONE, ONE, AND THAT WAS VERY, VERY EARLY ON.

AND WE WERE DEALING WITH SOME ACU, SOME THINGS, AND THAT'S ALL WE GOT INTO ISSUES.

YEAH.

HAS SOME HELPFUL GUIDANCE.

YEAH.

WHAT WE NORMALLY WOULD DO.

AND SO WE ACCEPT THAT INFORMATION, WE FIGURE OUT WHO'S THE RIGHT BODY FOR IT TO BE TRANSFERRED OVER.

THERE WAS NEVER ANY TWO-WAY COMMENT BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE ANY BACKGROUND, BUT THEY, WE WOULD CONFIRM TO THEM THAT WE RECEIVED IT, WE UNDERSTAND IT, IT'LL BE PASSED ON TO THE RIGHT BODIES.

AND WE TRIED TO FOLLOW UP TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY REACHED BACK OUT AND THAT WAS IT.

IT TOOK MINUTES AND, AND THERE COULD BE A LOT OF COMMENTS IF THERE WAS CHANGES IN MISSION.

CORRECT.

UM, OR OTHER THINGS HAPPEN.

BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN AVENUE.

RIGHT.

AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THERE WERE MORE, OF COURSE, WHEN 35 CAME, I WAS GONNA SAY CAME WHAT IT'S BIRTH.

I'VE GOT, WHEN I FIRST BECAME MAYOR, THAT WAS WHEN WE WERE DOING RUNWAY CONSTRUCTION.

UH, AND SO PROBABLY RECEIVED TWO DOZEN CONCERNS AND SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE, THEY, YOU KNOW, NO ONE WENT TO THE MPC.

THEY JUST CALLED THE MAYOR OF COUNCIL AND, AND, AND COMPLAINED.

SO, YEAH.

AND THE COMMISSION, ALL WE HAD WAS RESPONSES TO REZONING IN THE ACRES REQUEST.

OKAY.

SO WE'VE MADE SOME DECISIONS TO DEFER THE TWO ISSUES, ONE TO, UH, ON THE SEAT UNTIL THE AUGUST MEETING.

WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A MEETING IN JULY AND THEN DEFER THE OTHER ISSUE UNTIL THE RESOLUTION OF THE MPC IS.

UM, SO THAT BRINGS US TO, UH, THE ISSUE, UH, NUMBER SEVEN ON THE AGENDA.

UH, THE POLICE MEMORIAL BRIDGE MODIFICATION, THE OPENING SCHEDULE.

AND I KNOW MAYOR MURRAY, YOU WERE PRIMARILY, UH, RAISED THIS ISSUE OF MR. BARTH WHO SAID HE CAN'T BE WITH US THIS MORNING.

YEAH.

SO I'VE GOT, UH, GOT A LITTLE BIT TO REPORT ON THAT.

UH, AFTER, SINCE OUR LAST NER MEETING, UH, CITY MANAGER MARSHALL, UH, JARED FRALEY FROM THE COUNTY.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK JARED AND DAVID AND I, WE ALL, WE ALL MET OVER AT CITY HALL.

UM, OUR STAFF REACHED OUT TO THE COAST GUARD TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS FOR MODIFYING THE BRIDGE SCHEDULE.

UH, IT'S FUNNY, WE, WE SIMPLY ASKED WHO THE POINT OF CONTACT WAS, AND THEY RESPONDED WITH A TWO PAGE EMAIL OF HOW COMPLICATED AND COMPLEXION THAT IT WOULD TAKE AT LEAST TWO YEARS TO CHANGE THE THING.

UH, WE'VE COMPARED OTHER BRIDGE OPENING SCHEDULES ACROSS THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.

BUT I THINK PER, UM, JARED'S RECOMMENDATION, THERE'S A BIG ECONOMIC BENEFIT ARGUMENT HERE BECAUSE OF THE BRIDGE SHUTTING DOWN TRAFFIC, BOTH ON LADIES ISLAND AND ALL THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN BUFORD.

INCREASINGLY, UM, THERE'S A TRANSPORTATION ISSUE HERE.

AND SO HIS SUGGESTION IS THAT WE MAYBE SECURE A CONSULTANT, UM, TO PUT TOGETHER THAT ECONOMIC BENEFIT, UH, ANALYSIS, UH, AND SOME TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS BASED ON UPDATED, UH, TRAFFIC COUNTS.

UM, AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A, A, A BETTER CHANCE OF MAKING A COGENT ARGUMENT TO THE COAST GUARD, UM, OF WHY WE ARE REQUESTING A TIGHTER BRIDGE OPENING SCHEDULE.

IT LOOKS LIKE, AS COMPARED TO OTHER, THE THREE OTHER SWING BRIDGES IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA THAT ARE IN OPERATION TODAY OVER THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY, WE HAVE PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST, UM, I GUESS LIBERAL OPERATING SCHEDULES WHERE WITH THE TRANSIENT TIMEFRAME.

SO THAT'S APRIL, MAY, OCTOBER, AND NOVEMBER.

UM, AND WE ARE SEEING A PRETTY DRAMATIC INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF OPENINGS BECAUSE OF THOSE GOING THROUGH.

UM, SO I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR US TO MAKE A, A REASONABLE REQUEST FOR MODIFICATIONS.

UM, AND I, I GUESS DAVID AND JARED, WE'RE GONNA, UH, WORK WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO SEE ABOUT SECURING THAT CONSULTANT AND MOVING THAT FORWARD.

ONCE THAT STUDY'S COMPLETE, THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK, UM, TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A REQUEST THAT MAKES SENSE, AND THEN BRING THAT REQUEST BACK TO THIS BODY FOR REVIEW AND HOPEFULLY APPROVAL.

I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL WHILE PORT ROYAL, UM, MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT Y'ALL ARE AFFECTED TOO WITH, WITH THE BRIDGE.

SO IF THERE'S A WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE, UH, WE BELIEVE THERE'S PROBABLY A POLITICAL PROCESS WHERE WE WORK FROM THE STAFF SIDE UP AND THEN ALSO WORK FROM THE POP POLITICAL SIDE DOWN.

SO IT'LL TAKE KIND OF ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER.

LIKE I THINK EVERY, EVERYBODY IN YORK'S

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DISTRICT IS IMPACTED.

YEAH.

WELL, YEAH, WE COME, WELL, I COME THAT WAY AND STUFF, BUT, UM, SOMETIMES IF I HAVE SENSE, I GO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

.

WELL, SO THAT BRINGS UP THE NEXT, WHAT IS THE, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, ARGUMENTS, STRONGEST ARGUMENT THEY HAVE? WELL, WE HAVEN'T HAD A DIALOGUE WITH 'EM.

I MEAN, I THINK FOR THEM IT'S, THEY'RE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEY DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T BREAK IT.

AND IF THEY THROW THE LITTLE RIVER BRIDGE IN THERE TO SAY IT OPENS MUCH MORE FREQUENTLY.

THE REASON WHY IT DOES, CUZ I JUST SAW IT, IS BECAUSE THERE'S NO CLEARANCE EVEN FOR TEE TOPS OR PONTINS.

SO IT'S VERY SHORT AND IT OPENS QUITE FREQUENTLY.

SO IF THEY TRY TO TELL YOU, WELL, WE OPENED THIS ONE A LOT MORE THAN THAT.

THAT'S WHY.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S INTERESTING.

YEAH.

WELL, I THINK WE COME, THERE'S THAT FOUR MONTHS THAT APRIL, MAY, THAT OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, WHERE THE BRIDGE OUTSIDE OF THE PROHIBITION TIMES IN THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON, THE THING CAN OPEN EVERY 30 MINUTES.

AND SO YOU THINK ABOUT TRAFFIC ON LADIES ISLAND, AROUND SCHOOL, SCHOOL, BARELY CLEAR LAST OPENING.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, BARELY CLEAR THE LAST OPENING.

IF THERE'S A SECOND ONE COME IN 30 MINUTES, THE LADIES LIAISON SIDE, IT BACKS UP TO ALMOST PUBLIX ON THE BUFORD SIDE.

IT BACKS UP AROUND BELLA'S CURVE.

AND SO YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BURIED CLEARLY.

AND THEN THERE ARE THINGS OPENING AGAIN, WHICH IS CREATING SOME REAL CONFLICT.

AND YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE WHO'S SAILED, IF YOU HAVE THE EXPECTATION OF WHEN THAT BRIDGE, THEY, THEY, YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE YOUR SCHEDULE.

YOU TIME IT RIGHT.

YOU TIME IT.

YEAH.

SO WORKING ON THAT, AND LIKE I SAID, WE'LL COME BACK ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING.

I WANT TO THANK COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE COUNTY FOR, UM, GREENLIGHTING THE HOPEFULLY GREENLIGHTING THE STUDY AND GETTING THAT GOING.

UH, SO THE SECOND THING WAS NOTIFICATIONS.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT IS THERE A WAY TO COME UP WITH MORE REAL TIME NOTIFICATIONS SO YOU CAN MAKE A, A JUDGE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SITTING IN YOUR HOUSE OR YOUR OFFICE AND YOU'RE GOING, HEY, I GOTTA GET ACROSS.

IF I KNOW THE BRIDGE IS OPEN, I MIGHT WAIT 10 MINUTES OR I MIGHT TAKE A DIFFERENT, MIGHT TAKE A DIFFERENT ROUTE.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO THE BRIDGE SCHEDULE IS CONTROLLED BY THE US COAST GUARD, BUT THE BRIDGE IS OWNED BY S E D O T.

AND D O T HAS A PRIVATE SECTOR CONTRACTOR THAT ACTUALLY OPERATES THE BRIDGE.

UH, SO WE'VE REACHED OUT TO REPRESENTATIVE SHANNON ERICKSON, UM, ASKED FOR HER ASSISTANCE IN COORDINATING WITH D O T.

UM, SO WE HAVE A MEETING SET UP, I THINK WATER FESTIVAL WEEK.

WE HAVE A WITH, UH, SO DAVID AND JARED, MYSELF, OUR FOLKS, UH, AND D DOT'S BRINGING A, A BIG GROUP DOWN FROM COLUMBIA.

UM, AND WE WANNA HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT SOME TYPE OF LIKE NIXLE NOTIFICATION WHERE RESIDENTS COULD SUBSCRIBE.

YOU'RE ALREADY SUBSCRIBED TO NIXLE.

THERE COULD BE A CHECKBOX FOR WOODSBRIDGE NOTIFICATIONS.

AND THEN THE BRIDGE OPERATOR, WHEN THEY OPEN THE BRIDGE, COULD SEND OUT THE NOTIFICATION SAYING, HEY, WOODSBRIDGE IS, IS OPENING NOW.

UH, WHICH WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE A, MAKE A JUDGMENT CALL THEN.

SO MAYBE A LONG SHOT TO GET D O T AND THE CONTRACTOR TO SIGN ON, BUT WE'RE GONNA AT LEAST TRY TO SIT DOWN WITH 'EM AND, AND MAKE THE REQUEST.

SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM.

OR IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE MORE FOLKS AT THE, AT THE TABLE.

IF, JUST A QUESTION REGARDING, UM, THE REVIEW FOR, UM, COMING BACK TO YOUR, DO YOU HAVE A TIMEFRAME OR TARGETS? DO YOU'D LIKE TO, I THINK JARED WAS SAYING MAYBE 60, 90 DAYS FOR A STUDY.

UM, PROBABLY ANOTHER 30 OR SO DAYS FOR US TO TAKE THE STUDY AND TURN IT INTO A RECOMMENDATION.

UM, PROBABLY THE FOURTH QUARTER, MAYBE OCTOBER, I WOULD HOPE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

YEAH.

JUST FOR PLANNING PURPOSES.

ALL RIGHT.

AND AGAIN, ONCE WE GET THAT, THE HOPE WOULD BE MAYBE TO GET THREE JURISDICTIONS TO PASS RESOLUTIONS OF, OF SUPPORT, UM, AND THEN WORK A SORT OF A, A DUAL UP TOP UP, BOTTOM DOWN, YOU KNOW, MEET IN THE MIDDLE, UM, APPROACH.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS SO FAR.

WELL, WE TALKED A LOT.

THERE'S A PLAN ANYWAY.

PEOPLE ARE TALKING.

PEOPLE ARE TALKING.

THAT'S JUST GOOD START.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, UH, ALICE, I THINK YOU WERE GONNA TELL US ABOUT, UH, SOLO CO AND THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES ISSUE.

YEAH, WE, UH, I MET WITH, UM, MAYOR HARRY AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

HE WON'T BE AT THE MEETING, BUT MAYOR SALKA WILL LEAD THE MEETING.

UH, ALL THE MEMBERS HAVE APPOINTED, UH, THEIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

I'LL READ THOSE OUT AND I'LL GIVE THEM TO YOU FOR YOUR MINUTES.

BUT, UM, BEFORE WILL BE KURT FREEZE, BUFORD COUNTY, BE ROB MERCHANT BLUFFTON WILL BE DAN FRAZIER.

HARDY BILL WILL BE MATT DAVIS.

HILTON HEAD WILL BE SHAWN COLLIN JASPER COUNTY, BE DANNY LUCAS, PORT ROYAL B NOAH CRE.

AND YEMMA WILL BE MATT GAR.

MATT DOES EVERYTHING IN.

AND, UH, SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT AT THE MEETING.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL WAS TO TALK ABOUT GROWTH BOUNDARIES.

THREE OF THE ENTITIES HAVE PROVIDED ON THE, UH, HARDY BILL.

CITY, BEAUFORT, AND TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAVE PROVIDED THEIRS.

BUT, UH, MAINLY THIS GROUP WILL MEET AND I'LL MEET WITH THEM JUST AS A LIAISON.

AND THEN THE COMMITTEE'S GOING.

THIS COMMITTEE OF THESE MEMBERS

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WHO ARE ALL IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS WILL COME UP WITH GOALS FROM INPUT FROM OUR BOARD, THE SOLO LOCAL BOARD.

WE DID SUBMIT OUR DOCUMENTS.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY ARE.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, THEY MAY HAVE COME IN SINCE.

AND THEN, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS AT THIS, A LOCAL MEETING COMING UP TUESDAY.

WHAT SOME OF OUR GOALS WILL BE OKAY.

FOR THIS COMMITTEE WORK ON.

SO YOU WANNA GIVE US A FURTHER STATUS NEXT MONTH THEN, OR MM-HMM.

.

SURE.

I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IT.

YEAH.

WE'LL KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT SOUTHERN BEAVER COUNTY, THEY DON'T HAVE GROWTH BOUNDARIES.

THEY'VE NEVER SORT OF SAT DOWN AND FIGURED THOSE OUT? WE HAVE.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT .

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT VILLE.

YEAH, YOU CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM EITHER.

UHUH.

UM, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, JASPER COUNTY HAS, UH, ISSUED MORATORIUM.

YES.

SIX MONTHS.

FOR SIX MONTHS.

WELL, BUT IN A REDEVELOPMENT AREA, RIGHT? IN A SMALL AREA.

IT'S JUST ONE AREA, NOT THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

NO, IT'S NOT THE WHOLE COUNTY.

WE ONLY HAVE LARGE PROJECTS, NOT SINGLE FAMILY OR SMALL COMMERCIAL.

RIGHT.

SO, WE'LL NOW STAY TUNED.

WE'LL ISH.

I'D RECOMMEND WE KEEP IT AS A PLACEHOLDER ON OUR AGENDA OKAY.

FOR THIS UPDATES.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY.

WE'RE DOWN TO, UH, REALLY OUR LAST ITEM, UM, A DISCUSSION ABOUT COORDINATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

SCOTT, I KNOW YOU INITIATED REQUEST FOR SOME INFORMATION AND, UM, OKAY.

I THINK YOU STARTED WITH, UH, JARED, YOU STUDIED BEFORE THIS WHEN THE COUNTY STARTED.

I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY UPDATES IN THIS PER SE YET.

UM, MY BELIEF IS THAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO INITIATE A STUDY.

OKAY.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT YET.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ON THAT, ALICE, OR YOU HEARD.

I DO KNOW.

THAT'S ALL I KNOW IS THAT THEY ARE INITIATING THAT.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW BACK UP WITH COUNTY STAFF.

OKAY.

BRING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU IN THE NEXT MEETING.

FURTHER DISCUSSION ON AUGUST.

CAN I, COULD I MAYBE MAKE A SUGGESTION? SURE.

THAT, UH, WOULD STAFFS BE WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER TO POTENTIALLY BRING BACK A SCOPE OF A SCOPE OF WORK FOR A STUDY THAT THIS BODY COULD REVIEW AND POTENTIALLY GIVE US ENDORSEMENT BY THE AUGUST MEETING? I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, UH, IT MAY THAT'S A GOOD OBJECTION.

DONE TOO.

I'M NOT SURE IT'S SUCH A BROAD STATEMENT.

PUBLIC SAFETY.

I'D LIKE TO WELL, THAT'S RIGHT.

RIGHT.

TRY TO DEFINE WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN PUBLIC SAFETY? YEAH.

WELL, WHAT, WHAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, UH, THE POTENTIAL EFFICIENCY OF COMBINING EMERGENCY RESPONSE SERVICES, FIRE AND RESCUE EMS AND TWO, ONE CONSOLIDATED FUNCTION ON THE, UH, NORTH END OF THE COUNTY.

THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE STUDY SHOULD ENCOMPASS JUST THE NORTHERN PART OF BEAVER COUNTY OR WHETHER IT SHOULD ENCOMPASS THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

THAT'S A QUESTION THAT THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON.

I, I MEAN, A LOT OF PROGRESS IN THE SOUTHERN PRIVATE COUNTY IS, IS NOT, I DON'T NEED, IT'S NOT AS FRAGMENTED ED, BUT IT'S, IT'S PRETTY GOOD.

RIGHT.

IT'S NOT AS FRAGMENTED.

THE BUNTON TOWNSHIP FIRE DISTRICT HAS THE ENTIRE AREA FROM THE HILTON HEAD BRIDGE ALL THE WAY.

AND THEY'VE COMBINED E M S AND, AND FIRE IN THE SAME BUILDINGS.

WELL, IN ONE CASE.

CORRECT.

THEY'RE CO-LOCATED, BUT COLOCATED COUNTY E M S COVERS SOUTHERN BEAUFORD COUNTY.

RIGHT.

UNTIL YOU GET TO HILTON HEAD.

RIGHT.

AND THEN TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND HAS THEIR OWN FIRE EMS DEPARTMENT, AND THEY ARE COMBINED, BUT THAT'S A MUNICIPAL DEPARTMENT.

YEAH.

THE CO-LOCATED, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.

YEAH.

UH, BEAR MURRAY, WOULD YOU RESTATE WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE FROM THAT? YEAH.

WELL, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF US AGREE THAT THE, THE WAY WE'RE DELIVERING PUBLIC SAFETY IN NORTHERN GROUP COUNTY IS MAYBE NOT AS SUFFICIENT AS IT COULD BE.

AND I'M, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO THE STUDY WITH ANY PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS OF HOW IT OUGHT TO, HOW IT OUGHT TO BE ORGANIZED.

UH, BUT THERE ARE FOLKS THAT LOOK AT THESE ISSUES ALL DAY LONG AND CAN COME IN AND MAKE SOME OBJECTIVE SENSE OF HOW WE COULD, I THINK, WITH A BETTER VALUE FOR TAXPAYERS, BUT ALSO MAYBE GET MORE EFFICIENT IN A HIGHER DELIVERY OF, OF SERVICE FOR, FOR ALL JURISDICTIONS AND ALL RESIDENTS.

AND SO I JUST, I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE STUDY COME IN, LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND COME BACK AND BRING US REPORT WOULD BE, WOULD BE HELPFUL.

MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AT THE END OF IT, WE DON'T MAKE ANY CHANGES AND IT'S AS EFFICIENT AS IT CAN BE.

I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY AGREES THAT IT IS.

UM, BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO GRAMMATICALLY GROW AND WE ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO EXPAND PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, UM, AS WE LOOK AT MAKING PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL EXPENDITURES OF FACILITIES, AGAIN, WHAT, WHAT, HOW CAN WE MAKE SOME SENSE OF IT? SO MY SUGGESTION IS, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT A STUDY, MAYBE STAFF COULD BRING BACK A, A SCOPE OF WORK, UM, THAT THE CONSULTANT WOULD BE FOCUSED ON, UH, BY THE AUGUST MEETING ABOUT NOW TO TELLIS'S POINT, IF IT'S ALREADY SORT OF IN THE WORKS AND ROLLING, I WOULDN'T WANNA HOLD IT UP FOR TWO MONTHS.

UH, AND WOULD TRUST THAT

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STAFF HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO.

WELL, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK, I HOPE I, I CAN CHECK THAT COUNTY WILL WORK WITH THEIR COUNTERPARTS WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES, INCLUDING, UM, EVEN YEMENI, YOU KNOW, TO, UM, I DON'T MEAN EVEN, BUT ON THAT SCOPE OF WORK TOO.

BUT I CAN CHECK ON THAT.

OKAY.

BUT YOUR PROFESSIONALS IN THE COM AND FIRE AND SAFETY, YOU KNOW, TOO, BUT I'LL CHECK ON THAT.

OR WE CAN ASK YORK AND I CAN ASK OUR ADMINISTRATOR WHAT THE STATUS IS ON THAT R P.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, JUST ME TALKING ON THERE, UH, IT SEEMS THAT, UM, THE CITY OF BEAUFORT BURTON, I'M NOT TOO SURE WHAT PORT ROSS STANDS AND STUFF.

THERE'S SOME ISSUES THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED.

UM, WHEN YOU COME ON LADIES ISLAND AND HELENOR, UM, WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE.

AND, UM, UM, SO IT'S REALLY GETTING TOGETHER BETWEEN THE NORTHERN SIDE THERE, UM, AND RESOLVING IT AND THEN KIND OF MOVING FORWARD NOW, UH, AT ONE TIME WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT CONSOLIDATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

UH, THAT NEVER WENT ANYWHERE.

UM, SO WE JUST RE OPENING THAT, UM, ISSUE RIGHT NOW, I GUESS TO SEE WHERE IT WOULD GO IN THE FUTURE.

UM, BUT, UM, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT, UM, WE LIKE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY LIAISON.

SEE, I THINK WE LIKE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TOO.

WE DO.

I THINK, WELL, THERE'S TWO ISSUES.

I MEAN, THE ISSUE THAT YOU BRING UP IS A FIRE ISSUE BETWEEN THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE FIRE DISTRICT.

THE EMS IS A, IS A, IS A REGIONAL ISSUE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT.

EMS IS A REGIONAL ISSUE.

IT DOESN'T, YOU TAKE THAT OUT OF SOME OF THE ONLY FIREHOUSES THAT DON'T HAVE EMS COEXISTING IN OUR FIREHOUSES, AND THAT'S THE ISSUE, RIGHT? YEAH.

WATCHING BECAUSE WE RESPOND, OUR FIRETRUCKS ARE TYPICALLY FOUR OR FIVE MINUTES IN FRONT OF EMS WHEN THEY SHOW UP.

AND WE THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

YEAH.

COURSE'S WHERE THIS JUST, YOU KNOW, FULL FULL DISCLOSURE, WE'VE BEEN IN A LAWSUIT, CITY OF BEAVER MM-HMM.

AND THE TOWN OF FOR OIL.

YES.

BOTH MUNICIPALITIES, UH, BEEN HOLDING HANDS, UH, DEFENDING OURSELVES AGAINST LAWSUITS BY THE BURTON FIRE DISTRICT FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW.

MM-HMM.

.

AND I THINK WE'D ALL AGREE THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST USE OF PUBLIC RESOURCE AND PUBLIC EXPENDITURE.

AND I THINK I SPEAK FOR, ALL OF US WOULD SAY WE'D LIKE TO RESOLVE, WE'D LIKE TO RESOLVE THAT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

THAT'S NOT THE ABOVE.

THAT IS COMBINING EVERYTHING INTO SINGLE UNITS, BRINGING IN EMS. THAT'S TWO, IT'S TWO, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES.

TWO DIFFERENT, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES.

YEP.

AGREED.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA SET THE LAWSUIT ASIDE, SET THAT ISSUE ASIDE.

AND THIS IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE, THE WIDER ISSUE AND A BETTER VALUE TO ALL THE CITIZENS SUPPORT ROYAL IF TO, TO LOOK AT THE EMS AND TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY COMBINING SOME OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

AND TO YOUR POINT, UM, WE ARE IN SOME STAFF LEVEL DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNTY STAFF ON CO-LOCATING SOME EMS FUNCTIONS, POSSIBLY COMBINING AND, UH, NEW EMS HEADQUARTERS WITH OUR STATION ONE.

UH, BUT THE DETAILS OF THAT HAVE YET TO BE WORKED OUT.

BUT WE ARE, WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS ON THAT NOW ON THE STAFF SIDE.

SO THAT'S SOME PROGRESS FOR THAT.

OKAY.

WE'LL LOOK FOR AN UPDATE TO INVOLVED, SEE WHERE WE'RE AT FORWARD.

UM, THAT'S THE END OF, UH, THE AGENDA UNLESS YOU WANNA DISCUSS, UM, ANYTHING THAT IS ON THE, UH, FUTURE AGENDA LIST.

UH, WE'VE GOT SOME ITEMS THAT WERE ADDED.

UH, IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO SOMETHING ELSE TO THAT, WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF THINGS WE'VE DEFERRED OVER TO AUGUST, BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE TIMELY TALKED ABOUT IN CAPACITY CONCERNS, DEVELOPMENT, COORDINATION ACTIVITIES WITH .

IT'S YOUR AUTHORITY POSSIBLY MEETING THE NEW GENERAL MANAGER, UM, HIS RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE JOHN O'TOOLE COME IN AND GIVE US KIND OF A STATUS, IF YOU WILL, OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES.

UM, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THE LIST, THIS WOULD BE TIME TO DO IT.

OR AT THE TOP, COULD WE ADD A LITTLE BIT TO BEAUFORT JASPER SEWER WATER AUTHORITY? UM, YOU KNOW, BESIDES CAPACITY CONCERNS, THEIR, THEIR FEES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE COUNTY HAS PAID THOSE FEES, UH, FOR SOME OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UH, AND WE'LL TRY TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, BUT I, I, I LIKE WHEN THEY, IF WE HAVE THE MANAGER COME THAT WE ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE THOSE FEES CANNOT BE WAIVED.

SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY 'EM,

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BUT IT IS A HINDRANCE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO KIND OF, YEAH.

SO IT'S NOT ONLY CAPACITY, IT'S IMPACT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANNA SAY IT.

IMPACT FEES, I GUESS.

YEAH.

THAT THEY CALL IT CAPACITY FEES.

OKAY.

WE'LL CALL IT CAPACITY FEES.

THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL, YEAH.

OKAY.

CONCERNS AND FEES.

OKAY.

JUST ADD THAT WORD.

DID YOU WANT TO, UM, BRING THAT UP NEXT MEETING? DID YOU WANT TO YEAH.

WAS THERE ANOTHER TOPIC? I THINK, I DON'T, THE GENERAL MANAGERS AVAILABLE, IF NOT, I THINK THERE'S A HIGHER, I THINK BRINGING THE NEW GENERAL MANAGER IN AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE, UM, OKAY.

TO THIS GROUP WOULD BE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IN, IN THIS, IN THE CITY.

WE'VE HAD DEVELOPERS COME TO SEE US MULTIPLE AT A TIME, WHO ARE AT AN UNINTENDED MORATORIUM ON DEVELOPMENT.

NOW THE CAPACITY OF THE LIFT STATIONS CANNOT HANDLE WHAT THEY INTEND TO BUILD.

AND WHAT PREVIOUSLY BEFORE JASPER HAD APPROVED FOR THEM TO BUILD SO THEY COULD TO A CERTAIN STAGE IN THEIR PROJECT, AND THEY'RE TOLD YOU CAN'T GO ANY FURTHER UNLESS YOU GIVE US X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO UPGRADE THIS LIFT STATION.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE RUNNING INTO THAT NOW WITH OUR DEVELOPERS.

WE'RE NOT REAL HAPPY ABOUT IT.

AND I, I'D ADD TO THAT, JUST SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT DELAYS.

RIGHT.

EVEN, EVEN IN SPITE OF THE CAPACITIES I KNOW WITH QUITE ALL PARK MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

I DON'T EVEN THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED YET, BUT HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF DEVELOPERS THAT THEY CAN'T GET CONNECTIONS, CAN'T GET RESPONSES.

UH, IT'S, IT'S A BIT OF A MESS OVER THERE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

UM, I JUST FOR, UH, IGNORANCE ASKED A QUESTION ON THAT CUZ THAT'S TOPIC OF SOMETHING I UNDERSTAND VERY WELL.

SO WE HAD PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED THAT WERE GIVEN CAPACITY RIGHTS, AND THEN NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK AND SAYING, I CAN'T MOVE YOUR SEWAGE BECAUSE THAT PUMP STATION AND THAT FORCE MAIN IS NO LONGER LARGE ENOUGH.

UH, YES.

I BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M BEING AND THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED.

YES.

AND BEAUFORD JASPER WAS A PART OF THE REVIEW.

YES.

YES.

OH WOW.

THANK SURE.

YOU'RE GOOD.

I'M JUST ALL RIGHT.

YOU'RE INVOLVED NOW REMEMBER, I I'M USED TO COMING FROM DISTRICTS WHERE WE HAD OUR OWN WATER AND SEWER, SO THEY WERE ALWAYS INVOLVED.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNSELOR ? NO, I'M JUST, NO.

WAS I JUST COUNSELOR? I JUST WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT.

READ RED.

A QUICK MINOR THING ON YOU FOR JAPER.

UH, YOU GOT SOME COMPLAINTS ON THEY PUT UP CHAIN LINK FENCES, JUST REGULAR CHAINLINK FENCE.

AND THERE'S SOME CONCERN THAT THAT'S NOT VERY ATTRACTIVE, ESPECIALLY OVER AT THE NEW PARK.

UM, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD MAYBE, UH, TALK TO THEM ABOUT MAYBE UPGRADING THAT A LITTLE BIT.

THAT'S ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

OH, YOU DON'T HAVE THE, UM, BACKFLOW.

PREVENTERS.

YEAH.

SO YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S A DHEC, THAT'S A D E REQUIREMENT THAT THEY'RE OUT, THEY'RE NOW BEGINNING TO ENFORCE.

CAUSE I'VE BUMPED UP AGAINST THEM IN MY OWN BUSINESSES OUT IN THE INDUSTRIAL VILLAGE WHERE THEY WANT ME TO BRING IT OUT OF THE GROUND.

AND THAT'S NOT AT D E POINT? NO, NO, THAT'S A'S A WATER SEWER.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, I WAS TOLD, I WAS TOLD DIFFERENTLY BY THE POLICY WAS CHANGED AFTER I RETIRED.

I TO PUT OLD BACKFLOW PREVENTERS ABOVE GROUND.

IT'S FOR EASE OF MAINTENANCE.

IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.

AND THAT'S A VERY COMMON WATER AND SEWER REQUIREMENT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.

IT'S, THEY'RE UGLY.

THEY ARE UGLY THROWN TO THE ELEMENTS FROM FREEZING AND BUSTING AND LAWNMOWERS AND CARS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS HITTING.

JUST REMEMBER THOSE BACKFLOW PREVENTERS ARE PUT IN EVERYWHERE IN THE US ON WATER SERVICES.

THEY DO NOT PUT 'EM ABOVE GROUND IN AREAS THAT FREEZE YET THEY STILL GET THEM INSTALLED.

RIGHT.

AND THEY WORK FINE.

AND THEY WORK MY BUILDING FOR 15 YEARS FROM WITH NO ISSUE.

THAT'S NOT A, THE REQUIREMENT, THE FED'S ISSUE COULD BE, THEY HAVE A WAY TO MODIFY THAT IF THE, IF IT'S TALKED ABOUT IN THE EARLY PROBLEM IS WE DON'T SEE PUMP STATION DESIGN WHEN WE REVIEW PLANS THAT SOMETHING PLANNING, I THINK PLANNING DEPARTMENTS HAVE ASKED ABOUT WHAT IS IT GONNA LOOK LIKE AESTHETICALLY.

THAT WOULD BE A STEP THAT WOULD'VE TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE MIX.

BUT THERE THEY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN.

THEY ALSO TIMES, ALL TIMES LIKE TO PUT 'EM UP FRONT IN YOUR BUFFERS WITH BUFFERS ARE THERE TOO.

IT'S NOT A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.

OH MY GOODNESS.

COME.

DO YOU REQUIRE, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF APPROVAL FROM BEAVER JASPER FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT? JUST A LETTER.

JUST A LETTER.

SAME.

I HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

THEIR GENERAL MANAGER.

COULD WE INVITE THEIR BOARD CHAIR TO ATTEND THE MEETING AT THE SAME TIME? I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVES ON THEIR BOARD, WE EACH HAVE REPRESENTATIVES THAT SIT ON THEIR BOARD, UH, HERE, NOT JUST THE CHAIR.

YEAH, WE'D ASK OURS.

IS THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CONTACT THERE WHO CAN INITIATE SOME BE FOR CHESTERS? SURE.

COST.

UM, AS FAR AS GETTING HERE WHERE YOU WANT THEM HERE WHEN? UH, THIS WOULD BE IN AUGUST.

THE AUGUST 25TH MEETING.

YEAH.

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GENERAL MANAGER PREFER FOR CHOICE.

I CAN SEND YOU, I CAN SEND YOU HER EMAIL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I I'LL GET YOU THE EMAIL ADDRESS.

THAT'S YEAH.

I'LL, UM, SO WE WANT THEIR BOARD, OUR BOARD, THEIR BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE NORTH OF BROAD.

IS THAT THE IDEA? WE'D WANT THEM TO INVITE THEM.

OKAY.

BOARD CHAIR.

YEAH.

AND THE CHAIR.

WE GOTTA CAUTIOUS ABOUT HOW MANY, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CARMAN MACHINE, BUT YEAH.

PROBABLY BE ME.

THAT'S TRUE.

WE'RE GOOD.

WE'RE GOOD.

THE CHAIR RIGHT NOW IS, UH, OUT OF JASPER COUNTY.

YOU WANT THE CHAIR OR, OKAY, PLEASE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THAT'LL BE OUR FEATURE ISSUE THAT, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOTTA HAVE AN AUDIENCE.

YEP.

YEAH.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW SOMETHING.

UM, HOPEFULLY TODAY, THAT'S WHAT I SETTING TENTATIVELY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE FOR, FOR ITEM DOWN THE ROAD? CAN'T BE NEXT IN AUGUST.

NO.

BOATS JUST GOT FILLED UP.

YEP.

ALRIGHT.

RIGHT.

UH, IF NOT, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

ANY COMMENTS? ANYBODY LOOK, APPEAR TO MAKE OFFER TRACKING BOAT BUFORD SATURDAY.

ALL RIGHT.

COME ON DOWN.

FOURTH JULY.

IT'S GONNA BE AWESOME IN COURT.

ROYAL.

ROYAL JULY WATER STILL KICKS OFF ON THE 14TH.

YEAH, SO IN THE SUMMER REIMAGINE REBO WORKSHOPS TO 27.

OH, THAT'S GOOD POINT.

YEAH, THEY'RE ALL DAY.

AND THEN THERE'S A, UM, PRESENTATION AT FIVE 30 EACH EVENING.

YEAH, IT'S DROP IN DURING THE DAY.

THANK YOU.

TEAM IS PUTTING THAT, THINK THEY'RE DOING REALLY THEY'RE GREAT.

PUBLIC MEETING.

I CONSULT JOB.

A LOT OF COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK.

A LOT.

I GET A LOT OF EMAILS TOO.

NO OBJECTION.

THE MEETINGS, THE COMMENTS ON OUR FACEBOOK POST, IT'S LIKE NO CHANGE, NO CHANGE, NO CHANGE.

AND THEN ONE PERSON SAID LIKE THREE.