X.1. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Pearce Scott Architects, on behalf of the owner, 5824 Guilford Place LLC (Larry Page), to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness-HD to allow the construction of a 2-story commercial office building of approximately 2,888 SF and Carriage House of approximately 1,200 SF to be located at 5824 Guilford Place, Lot 14 in the Stock Farm Development, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General- HD.(COFA-04-23-017854)(Staff - Katie Peterson)

[X.1. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Pearce Scott Architects, on behalf of the owner, 5824 Guilford Place LLC (Larry Page), to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness-HD to allow the construction of a 2-story commercial office building of approximately 2,888 SF and Carriage House of approximately 1,200 SF to be located at 5824 Guilford Place, Lot 14 in the Stock Farm Development, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General- HD.(COFA-04-23-017854)(Staff - Katie Peterson) ]

WE HAVE NO OLD BUSINESS EITHER. IT'S A NEW BUSINESS. CAN I READ? I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF. DO I DO NOW OR AFTERWARDS YOU DO IT NOW THAT WAS DECEMBER THREE THREE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE WOULD HAVE HAND OVER TO YOU EITHER THROUGH I THINK YOU GOOD EVENING MADAM ACTING CHAIR AND MADAM VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS TONIGHT THE FIRST APPLICATION THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU AS A HALF NEW COMMISSION AT THIS POINT IT IS 5824 GUILFORD PLACE WHICH IS LOT 14 IN THE STOCK FARM DEVELOPMENT THE APPLICANT PIERCE SCOTT ARCHITECTS ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER LARRY PAGE REQUEST THAT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION APPROVE THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION IT IS FOR A NEW TWO STOREY COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING OF APPROXIMATELY 2888 SQUARE FEET AND A CARRIAGE HOUSE OF APPROXIMATELY 1200 SQUARE FEET TO BE LOCATED AT 5824 GUILFORD PLACE IF YOU WILL TURN LEFT IN HISTORIC DISTRICT WHICH IS LOT 14 IN A STOCK FORM DEVELOPMENT IT IS THE OLD NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS CURRENTLY A VACANT LOT SO AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN YOU CAN SEE HIGHWAY 46 OR MAY RIVER ROAD THEN TO THE LEFT HERE IS GINGKO LANE.

SO IF YOU'RE HEADED FROM TOWN HALL TOWARDS SAVANNAH IT'LL BE THE SECOND ENTRANCE TO STOCK THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE TURNING IN THERE AND IT IS THE CORNER LOT ON YOUR LEFT AS YOU TURN INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN GUILFORD PLACE RUNS ALONG THE REAR OF THIS PROPERTY THE SETBACKS FOR THE STOCK FARM DEVELOPMENT ARE ESTABLISHED BY A DEVELOPMENT PLAN RATHER THAN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE SO THEY ARE IN PLACE THERE.

IT'S A FRONT OF 15 A REAR OF 15 ,A SIDE OF 21 AND A I 17 AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THEY ARE MEETING SETBACK REQUIREMENTS ON THE SITE PLAN. I HAVE DOUBLE CHECKED THAT FOR YOU. THE CARRIAGE HOUSE SETBACKS ARE FIVE FEET ON BOTH THE REAR SIDE PROPERTY LINES AS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT FALLS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PLACEMENT STANDARDS. THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE ADDITION A DRIVEWAY TO A SITE IF THEY WANT A DRIVEWAY TO THE SITE THIS HAS OPTED TO NOT ADD THE DRIVEWAY TO THE SITE AS THEY'RE NOT USING THAT HOUSE STRUCTURE AS THE GARAGE STRUCTURE.

IT IS NOT NECESSARY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING WITHIN THE STOCK FARM DEVELOPMENT AS LONG AS THE USE IS ONE THAT IS PERMITTED BY THE ZONING DISTRICT WHICH IN THIS CASE THEY HAVE OPTED TO TAKE THE SPACE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR A DRIVEWAY SHOULD THEY WANT TO ADD ONE TO ADD ADDITIONAL ON STREET PARKING HERE. SO THEY'VE SHIFTED THE ADA SPACE AND ADDED AN ADDITIONAL TWO SPACES SO THAT THERE'S A COUPLE EXTRA SPACES THERE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT HAPPENING AT THE BOTTOM HERE THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE PRIMARY AGAIN GUILFORD PLACE IS AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN. MAY RIVER ROAD IS AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN HERE SO I'VE GOT IT FLIPPED FROM THE SITE PLAN. I APOLOGIZE BUT THE PORCH YOU CAN SEE WRAPS THE FRONT AND THEN THERE'S A INFILL PORTION HERE AND THEN THE PORCH IS NEARLY THE ENTIRE BACK ELEVATION AS WELL WITH THE STAIRWELL THAT RUNS TO THE SECOND FLOOR HERE YOU CAN SEE THE STAIRWELL. HERE'S THAT LANDING AND THAT INFILL AREA ON THE RIGHT. SO THIS IS AGAIN MAY RIVER ROAD AT THE BOTTOM GINKGO ON YOUR RIGHT. SO THIS IS IF YOU WERE STANDING ON MAE RIVER ROAD LOOKING TOWARDS THE BUILDING FOR THE ROOF PLAN AGAIN THIS IS NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD AT THE BOTTOM GINKGO ON YOUR RIGHT GUILFORD AT THE REAR THEN THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN FOR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WE HAVE FIRST FLOOR PLAN UP ON THE RIGHT CORNER TOP RIGHT CORNER HERE THE SECOND FLOOR IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THAT FIRST FLOOR AND THEN THE ROOF PLAN YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT SITS ON TOP OF THE FIRST FLOOR WITH THE LARGER AREA ON THE FIRST FLOOR THERE. SO THE FRONT AND REAR ELEVATIONS TOP IS THE FRONT WHICH FACES MAIN RIVER ROAD AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE PORCH HERE THOSE COLUMNS AND THEN THIS STEPS BACK SO THIS HORIZONTAL SIDING IS THAT BACK FROM THE FRONT AND THEN ON THE REAR ELEVATION YOU'RE GETTING AN APPROXIMATE SEE THE SAME AMOUNT OF FENESTRATION IT'S NOT QUITE THE EXACT SAME BUT IT IS IT HAS THE APPEARANCE OF A SECOND

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FRONT. YOU CAN SEE THE STAIRS THAT GO UP TO THE SIDE OF THE STAIRS THAT GO UP TO THE LANDING HERE AND THEN THE RIGHT AND LEFT ELEVATION.

SO THIS IS THE SIDE THAT WOULD FACE GINGKO AND. THIS IS THE SIDE THAT WOULD FACE THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THE CARRIAGE HOUSE ELEVATION.

SO YOU'VE GOT THE SIDE THAT FACES TOWARDS MAE RIVER ROAD AND THE BUILDING IN FRONT OF IT YOU HAVE THE REAR WHICH FACES TOWARDS GINGKO AND GUILFORD. GUILFORD THEN YOU HAVE THE SZCZESNY RIVER ROAD ON THIS ON THE ELEVATION WHICH WOULD FACE TOWARDS THE VICTORIAN IN THE SAME WAY AS THE BUILDING THE MAIN BUILDING SO AT THE FRONT A LITTLE NEGATIVE OVER THE TOP ONE NOT THIS ONE BUT IF THAT'S TOP IS WITH ME REGRET I'M SO SORRY THIS IS MAY RIVER ROAD THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION WHICH WOULD FACE TOWARDS THE GINGKO THE REAR ELEVATION WHICH FACES TOWARDS GUILFORD AND THEN THE LEFT ELEVATION WHICH RACES TOWARDS THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY WE GO HERE ARE THE WALL SECTIONS IF YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THOSE CLOSER I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK TO THAT SCREEN AS WELL AS THE WINDOW AND DOOR FINISH THE ADDITIONAL DEALING DETAILS THE WINDOW DETAIL WHICH SHOWS THAT SHUTTER THE SERVICE DETAIL AND THE EXTERIOR HANDRAILS SOME ADDITIONAL MOSTLY WINDOW INDOOR DETAILS HERE THE DRAINAGE PLAN WHICH INCLUDES THE FIRE PLAN.

SO AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THIS BETTER WHERE THEY INCLUDED THE ADDITIONAL PARKING AT THE BASE HERE. SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE AND THIS IS WHERE THAT SIDEWALK USED BE. THAT SIDEWALK WILL NEED TO BE PULLED UP HERE AND COME AROUND THE BASE. IT SHOWS UP THAT IT IS COMING AROUND THE BASE ON THE SITE PLAN. SO THAT'S THE RELOCATION HERE. HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THEN THIS THE COMMENTS THAT THE AIR BE PROVIDED THE APPLICANT HAS LET ME KNOW THAT THEY HAVE SENT THIS TO THE THEY'VE SENT THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THE AIR BEE.

THEY MEET THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EACH MONTH SO THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS THERE IT'S A LITTLE OFF WHERE THEY NEED IT TO BE BEFORE YOU ALL TONIGHT AND THEY HAVE ADDRESSED THESE COMMENTS THAT ARE HOPEFUL TO THE APPROVAL THERE. AS I ALWAYS STATE THE IRB BE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ORDINANCES. IT CANNOT BE IN CONFLICT WITH IT. SO IF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DOOR FACING THE STREET THEY CAN SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO DOORS FACING THE STREET BUT THEY CAN'T DO THAT. YOU CAN'T HAVE A DOOR FACING STREET BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS REQUIRED BY OUR ORDINANCE. SO IN GETTING A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL LIKE THIS IT IS THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN ALIGNMENT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT AMEND SOMETHING IS NOT APPROVED. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY HAVE MOST OF THEM ARE THIS IS EXISTING LANDSCAPE HERE TO REMAIN ADDING A STABLE PARK SO MOST OF IT IS ADDITIVE RATHER THAN SUBTRACTIVE INFORMATION THAT I SEE ON THE RV CONDITION. SO THERE ARE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPES INSTEAD OF TAKING AWAY AS THE HPC SOME OF YOU THE FIRST TIME THE HPC CONSIDERS EIGHT REVIEW CRITERIA WHICH ARE FOUND IN SECTION 318 THREE OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE WHEN THEY ASSESS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION YOU ALL ARE AUTHORIZED TO EITHER APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.

APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. MADAM CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE I CAN GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONS THAT STAFF HAVE FOUND BEFORE THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND THEN WE CAN OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO THE APPLICANT AND LET HER SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT TONIGHT IF YOU LIKE. YES, PLEASE. SO THE FIRST CONDITION IS THAT A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THERE ARE TREES THAT ARE LARGER THAN EIGHT INCHES IN DIAMETER OF REST HEIGHT WHICH ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL.

THIS IS A STANDARD CONDITION THAT IS ON JUST ABOUT EVERY APPLICATION THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU. IT'S PRIMARILY ADMINISTRATIVE. THE SECOND IS THAT THE APPROVAL FROM THE STOCK FARM IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

WE DID KIND OF DISCUSS THAT JUST NOW BUT BASICALLY WE NEED SOMETHING FROM THE STOCK FARM THAT SAYS THEY ARE OKAY WITH THE DESIGN AS IT SITS BEFORE WE CAN SIGN OFF ON OURS.

THE THIRD IS BECAUSE IT'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. ANY SIGNAGE THAT IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED IN THE FUTURE IT REQUIRES A SITE FEATURE APPROVAL.

AGAIN ADMINISTRATIVE WE LIKE TO INCLUDE THIS CONDITION BECAUSE THE ONLY TIMES THAT WE DO NOT INCLUDE IT SOMEBODY COMES THROUGH AND SAYS WHAT WAS SHOWN ON THE BUILDING PLANS.

SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IT. ON HER TEST AS A SAFETY FOR THAT. THE FOURTH IS THAT WE NEED A CANOPY COVERAGE PROVIDED FOR REVIEW SINCE THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED ON THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN HERE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOWS THAT THERE IS AT LEAST 75% CANOPY COVERAGE NOT INCLUDING ROOFTOPS

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AT MATURE CANOPY. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT OF SECTION 5.3 OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. THE FIFTH ITEM IS THAT DURING THE REVIEW THE EXISTING WHEN WE REQUESTED THAT THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE BE SHOWN ON THE PLANS TO ENSURE THAT THE ADEQUATE PLANTINGS HAVE BEEN RETAINED OR REPLANTED. WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. SHOWING AS EXISTING LANDSCAPING HERE BUT IT JUST DOESN'T INDICATE WHAT SPECIES OR THE NUMBER OF PLANTINGS THAT ARE INSTALLED THE FRONT AT THIS TIME TO BE MOVED UP OR IN PLACE DURING CONSTRUCTION. WE NEED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION THERE. THE SIXTH IS THAT THE APPLICANT MUST WORK STAFF TO ENSURE THE GRADING PROPOSED WILL NOT RESULT IN A COMPLETE LOSS OF THE STREET STREETSCAPE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS OR IMPACT THE SIDEWALK WHILE STILL MAINTAINING POSITIVE DRAINAGE.

SO THE SURVEY THAT IS PROVIDED IS A LITTLE BIT OLDER WHICH IS ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE WE NOT TECHNICALLY REQUIRE ONE THAT IS BRAND NEW. HOWEVER, WITH THE STREETSCAPE PROJECT THAT WENT THROUGH THERE I THINK SOME OF THE GRADING HAS BEEN CHANGED.

I WAS OUT THERE WITH A TAPE MEASURE AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S OFF A LITTLE BIT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT POSITIVE DRAINAGE WHERE THE LOCATION OF THE DRAINAGE THAT'S RUNNING THROUGH THE SITE RIGHT NOW IS RUNNING RIGHT ALONG THE FENCE LINE WHICH WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING THE FRONT COLUMNS OF THE STRUCTURE. SO TOWN STAFF RECOMMENDING THAT THE BUILDING BE PUSHED BACK ON THE SITE ABOUT FIVE FEET SO THAT THAT DRAINAGE IS LESS IMPACTED BY THE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN IT WOULD BE ABLE TO FLOW THE HIGHEST POINT BEING APPROXIMATELY WHERE THIS 23 IS ON THE PLAN. I'M SORRY 25 I CAN READ AND THEN HAVE SHEET BOTH DIRECTIONS FROM IT. SO THE HIGH POINT WOULD BE IN THE CENTER AND IT SHOOT EITHER WAY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO REESTABLISH A DITCH IN FRONT OF THIS WHICH MAY UNDERCUT THE SIDEWALK A BIT BECAUSE OF THE PLACEMENT THERE.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF AS WELL AS WORK WITH THEM ON IF IF YOU ALL SEE FIT WHETHER IT BE THAT THEY INCREASE THE THE FILL IN THAT AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS AND LEAVE THE PLACEMENT AS IS OR MOVE THAT BUILDING BACK FIVE FEET AND BE ABLE TO SHIFT FLOW EITHER DIRECTION THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF YOU ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT STAFF DOES FEEL COMFORTABLE WORKING THE APPLICANT ON THAT TO ENSURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ADEQUATELY DRAINED SO THAT WE DO NOT RUN INTO ISSUES. WE DO KNOW THAT SOILS IN THIS LOCATION ARE WHAT YOU CALL NOT GREAT AND SO TYPICALLY THE LOTS ALONG THIS STREAM HAVE REQUIRED A LOT OF FILL IN THE PAST AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH ON SEVERAL OF THESE LOTS. SO AND WHILE IT IS A CONCERN AT THIS MOMENT BASED ON WHAT SEEING HERE IT IS SOMETHING WE BELIEVE CAN BE ADDRESSED FAIRLY EASILY.

YEAH, WELL FAIRLY EASILY OR AT LEAST HANDLED AT THE STAFF LEVEL BECAUSE IT IS TRADER'S WORK AND IT SHOULDN'T THE ARCHITECTURE OR MUCH OF THE PLACEMENT OF THIS BUILDING.

I DID TALK WITH OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL JUST TO ENSURE THAT IF THE BUILDING WAS MOVED BACK FIVE FEET THERE WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE WITH ANY FIRE RATINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THIS BUILDING COULD CONSTITUTE A SINGLE BUILDING UNDER BUILDING CODE EVEN THOUGH IT IS TWO BUILDINGS BECAUSE IT ALL IS COMMERCIAL IT IS UNDER 9000 SQUARE FEET AND IT IS UNDER TWO OR IT'S TWO STORIES OR UNDER IN HEIGHT AND IT IS NON SPRINKLED SO IT COULD CONSTITUTE ONE BUILDING WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT FUNKY BUT IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL RATING BETWEEN THE STRUCTURES IF IT IS A FIVE FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO. SO THERE ARE A FEW OPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE AND WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE WORKS BEST FOR THEIR SITE.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE I COVERED THAT BECAUSE IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THAT PRIMARY STRUCTURE TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY LINE TO ELIMINATE THE NEED TO REALLY RELOCATE THE FENCE PLANTINGS OR MODIFY DRAINAGE AT THE FRONT OF THE LOT.

SO THE TWO, SIX AND SEVEN GO FAIRLY HAND-IN-HAND. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME THEN YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CAN WE SEE IS THERE ANY INFORMATION THAT SHOWS THE TWO BUILDINGS TOGETHER SO WE CAN SEE IF THE FIVE FOOT SHIFT WHAT THAT DOES SHOULD THERE BE A FIVE FOOT SHIFT TOWARD THE REAR REAR IN THE BUILDING? THERE'S NO CONNECTOR CORRECT? THERE'S NOTHING. AND SO IF THE BUILDINGS ARE FIVE FEET APART THEN IT'S CONSIDERED ONE BUILDING. THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED ONE BUILDING UNDER INTERNATIONAL CODE AND NOT HAVE TO INCREASE THEIR FIRE RATING ON THE EXTERIOR WALL FACING EACH OTHER . I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THE OVERHANG WAS A THREE FEET BUT ON EACH OF THE BUILDINGS I HAVE THE RIGHT REAR.

PERHAPS THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT BETTER BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT'S TWO FEET THREE.

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I MEAN STILL YES IT'S TWO FEET AND SO YOU'VE GOT THE LOWER ROOFS THAT POTENTIALLY BUT I MEAN THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE DRAWINGS A COMPOSITE THEY'RE NOT AND THERE ISN'T.

OKAY IT'S THE TWO ROOMS. YES THEY'LL BE CLOSE BECAUSE IT HAS A HIP DOOR SO IT'S THE SAME AND 16 INCH OVERHEAD 24 AND TWO POINT THE ROOFING AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE DETAILS ARE AND WORK WITH STAFF ON ALL OF THE SITE THINGS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE RIVER ROAD STREETSCAPE SO WE CAN WORK WITH THEM ON IT'S ONE EIGHT WE CAN WORK THEM ON MAKING SURE THE WHOLE DRAINAGE AND SITE SITUATION IS TAKING STEPS EXISTING FIVE FEET BUT IT COULD BE THREE FEET IT COULD BE FOUR FEET SO WE CAN WORK WITH THEM ON WHAT THEY THINK WE CAN DO AND ARE ALL THERE'S LOTS OF REALLY TRICKY ON MY RIVER ROOM AND THEY CHANGE TO A QUESTION ON THE FRONT ELEVATION ON THE SECOND FLOOR THERE ARE TWO WINDOWS I THINK UH ON THE SECOND OR I GUESS A SHORTER SORRY I WAS THINKING IT WAS A THAT'S ALL OR OR ANY OTHER QUESTION YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE IS THE INTENTION FOR THE CENTER STYLE ON A DOUBLE SHUTTERS THREE SKINNIER THAN THE REST OF THE STYLE AROUND I'M NOT NECESSARILY I DON'T HAVE THE SHUTTER PICKED OUT SO I WAS TRYING TO MIMIC THE WINDOWS BUT I DON'T YOU I KNOW WE WANTED A PANEL OKAY BUT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE THICKNESS OF THAT STYLE UNTIL WE SEE WHAT WAS AVAILABLE I PERSONALLY LIKE THE LOOK OF THE ONE SINGLE SHUTTER AND A WINDOW LIKE THAT CAN HELP BALANCE THAT AND SAY YEAH ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU ALL RIGHT? I GUESS I HAVE SOME GENERAL COMMENTS. LOOK AT THE QUESTION YEAH I GUESS I COULD ASK AS A QUESTION THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COLUMN DETAILS THE FRONT COLUMNS HAVE THE THE SECOND BAND AT THE TOP AND THE REASON THAT'S THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

SO WE WANTED TO GO AROUND THE SIDE THAN THE COLUMNS ON THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE AT THE BACK.

MR. HALL ARE DIFFERENT THERE TOO. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S AN OUTDOOR POST OR YOU KNOW IT'S A DIFFERENT IT'S NOT AS FORMAL AS THE COLONNADE AROUND SO THAT'S SECONDARY TO THAT. OKAY. AND THE CONCEPT THERE IS THAT THOSE SEPARATE YEAH THOSE ARE THAT'S SECONDARY TO THE MAIN ARE THOSE EIGHT INCH LIKE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE OR ARE THEY THE SAME IN WITH THE THE MAIN ONES ARE AND PROBABLY COMPARING YOU KNOW SOMEWHERE AND THEN THE CARRIAGE IS PROBABLY SCALED DOWN TYPICALLY WHEN I'M WORK ON MAJOR I CAN'T SEE BUILDINGS MASSING THE PRIMARY USUALLY IS THE GRANDER ONE OF THE TWO YEAH I'M JUST LOOKING AT THOSE ON THE FRONT KIND OF BEING NO SURE I GOT THREE DIFFERENT COLUMNS YOU GOT THE FORMAL ONES THAT ARE TEN INCH THE FRONT AND THEN KIND OF THE STEPPED PENETRATE THAT BUT IT'S NOT FORMAL IN THE CARRIAGE HOUSE YOU'RE NICE TO SEE THOSE LEAST KIND BE THE FORMAL AND INFORMAL AND HAVE THEM WHAT WOULD YOU WHERE I WOULD SUGGEST EITHER MAKING THE TENANTS LIKE ALL OF THE COLUMNS ON THE MAIN BUILDING MATCH PROBABLY WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE OR GOING TO YOU KNOW COUNTER MATCH THE INFORMAL ONES TO THE THE DIFFICULT CHALLENGE ON THAT IS THIS THAT I'M CIRCLING THAT'S A POST THAT WILL GO INTO THE GROUND SO IT'S LIKE ON A SLAB OR USE STRUCTURE STRUCTURES JUST A SECOND FLOOR PORCH.

OKAY. IT'S NOT A SAT ON A FOUNDATION. IT'S NOT SET ON A FOUNDATION

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OKAY AND THEN THE UPSTAIRS A SCALED DOWN BECAUSE IT'S THE SECOND FLOOR AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AS DECORATIVE I GUESS AS THE OTHER IT'S OPERATING AS A SIDE ENTRY.

YES, ESSENTIALLY YES. THAT YEAH BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GET A SECOND FLOOR IT'S THE ONLY SECONDARY ENTRY SO OKAY IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A BIG FOUNDATION BELOW.

YEAH NO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO RELAX THAT WAY. WELL I'LL JUST BE A POST FOOTING AND THEN THE ROOF ON THAT SECOND ELEMENT IS THERE WAS THE REASONING NOT HAVING THE EASY LINE ON THE FLOOR 12 HOURS WITH THE MAIN ROOMS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE CLEAN UP HERE AND HERE I DIDN'T BECAUSE THE WHOLE MAJOR VERSUS MINOR SO THE MAJOR MASS PART THE MINOR MASS PART AND I DIDN'T WANT AS MUCH EMPHASIS IN THAT PART PUSHED BACK MORE IT'S NOT ON THE SAME PLANE AND DIDN'T NECESSARILY I DON'T THINK THAT YOU NEED A CONTINUOUS EVE AND IT MATCHES PORT AND YEAH I AGREE NOW THE EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS IT JUST DOESN'T COME TOGETHER AND THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT PITCHES THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO EVEN IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE THE EXACT SAME BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT SLOPES.

SURE. YEAH. SO WHY DO YOU HAVE THE EXPOSED RAFTER ON AROUND THE PORCH THEN ON THAT OTHER LOWER PITCH BUT NOT ON THE MAIN ROOF BECAUSE THE 412 IS THE OPEN RAFTER TAIL. SO AND IT'S LIKE YOU SAID IT'S AROUND THE PORCH SO LIKE UPSTAIRS ON THIS PART SO THAT'S PART OF THE PORCH SO IT CARRIES THE SAME LANGUAGE AS THE PORCH DOWN. I AGREE WITH THAT.

I MEAN I THINK THAT'S A REALLY NICE TOUCH. I WAS JUST SUGGESTING THAT THE EDGES OF THE ROOF AT THE EDGES OF THE ROOF ALIGN THAT CALL LESS ATTENTION THAT JOINT THERE'S YOU RAISE THAT AND I'VE LOOKED AT RAISING AND LOWERING THAT PLATE BUT IF YOU DO THAT AND THEN THERE BECOMES A LOT OF SPACE ON THAT LITTLE BITTY ELEMENT SOMETHING AHEAD OVER THE WINDOWS AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS THE SAME HEIGHT OR LOWER THIS ONE IS LOWER.

YEAH IF I IF GREW IT UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF EXTRA SPACE BETWEEN THE HEAD AND THE EAVE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OPEN RAFTER TAILS ABOVE THE BUMP OUT ON THE SECOND FLOOR IS I CAN CLOSE THAT I MEAN IT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE IT ON THE WHOLE THING.

THE CLIENT PREFERRED HAVE A SOFFIT ON THE MAIN BODY. YEAH I DON'T THINK THAT THE MAIN BODY REQUIRES HAVING AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND YEAH YEAH LAST NIGHT I HAD THE THE DOUBLE HANGS LOOK REALLY NICE ON THE RIGHT SIDE ELEVATION HERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR THEN ON THE CARRIAGE HOUSE THERE CASEMENT'S THIRD REASON AND JUST FOR PROPORTION AND SIZE FOR THE SECOND FLOOR AND THEN I WAS JUST TRYING TO DO NOT AS MANY YOU KNOW KEEP CONSISTENT WINDOW TYPES AND SO WE HAD THE SMALLER WINDOWS HERE SO THAT'S WHY I CHOSE TO MIMIC THEM HERE ON THE CARRIAGE HOUSE TO CONTINUE THAT SAME LANGUAGE. AND SINCE IT IS A SMALLER SCALE FIT THOSE AGAIN THOSE WINDOWS I THOUGHT WERE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT SCALE I THINK THE INDIVIDUALS ARE I THOUGHT THE TRIPLE SYSTEM THAT THEY WERE A DOUBLE HUNG SEEING AS THAT'S HOW IT WAS ON THE FRONT ELEVATION THESE WERE DOUBLE HUNG AND THEN AS YOU GO TO THE CARRIAGE HOUSE OH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OVER YEAH THE SWITCH TO THEY COULD BE DOUBLE HUNG BUT THEY COULD BE DOUBLE HUNG UP THAT'S WHAT YOU PREFER ? I DON'T KNOW. I JUST SEEMED A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT FOR THE REST OF THE ARCHITECTURE. REMEMBER ALL OF THAT I HAD ON MY AS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WHICH IS GOING TO HELP YOU MAKE EGRESS TO THERE THAT WAS WELL WE'RE NOT INTENDING IT TO BE RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE THE ONE DOOR UP THERE SO IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE OTHER COMMENTS HERE IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM. ARE WE LOOKING FOR MOTION?

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MOTION AREN'T OUR MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PLANS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY MEET ALL THE THINGS THEY WERE ASKED FOR WORK STAFF ON THE DRAINAGE GIVE HB OR THE PLAY LETTER BEFORE THEY WOULD GET THE YOU KNOW FINAL APPROVAL. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS APPROVE PER STAFF ONE THROUGH SEVEN SEVEN WORKING WITH STAFF TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THEM.

THAT'S THE MOTION I HEARD YOU HAVE A SECOND OF A SECOND THE MOTION.

OKAY DO EITHER DISCUSSION ARE WE BOTH IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION YOU CAN HAVE IT NOW OR IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION THEN YOU TAKE ABOUT THE WINDOWS.

OBJECTION THE LIST I MEAN THAT'S A I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS IT SEEMS LIKE NO ONE ELSE REALLY FELT STRONGLY ABOUT THAT. I AGREE WITH YOU AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I MEAN THINK IT IS MORE CONSISTENT AND I THINK WE WOULD MAKE THAT COMMENT ON OTHER PROJECTS EVEN THOUGH IT'S KIND OF THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING HERE WE HAD THAT AND THIS IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO AMEND A MOTION THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO VOTE AND THEN TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND TO ADD A BLANK SECOND YOU VOTE ON AMENDING MOTION TO SECOND THE MOTION TO AMEND AND THEN YOU VOTE ON AMENDING THE MOTION THEN YOU VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION. OKAY SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION? YEAH, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION TO ADD THAT THE TRIPLE WINDOWS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE BE SWITCHED FROM CASEMENT'S DOUBLE HANDS ALL IN FAVOR I OKAY SO YOU VOTED TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE IN THE CONDITION AND NOW YOU'RE TO VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION SO SO NOW CAN WE HAVE VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION ? OKAY SO IT'S BEEN SECONDED SO WE JUST NEED VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION.

I THAT MOTION IS PLANNED OKAY THE MOTION THAT DISAGREE OH NO IT CAN VOTE NO THE MOTION STILL PASSES SO WE'RE WE'VE VOTED TO AMEND TO ADD THE EIGHTH CONDITION AND THEN WE VOTED THE MAJORITY HAS PASSED THE MOTION. THANK YOU PERFECT TO CONSIDER. SORRY I'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS UP ON SCREEN. I'M WELL DONE GUYS. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND BRINGING THIS. YOU'RE WELCOME BACK. OKAY.

YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY CAN HAVE THAT. HE DID TRICK YOU FIRST.

[X.2. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Ansley Hester Manuel, Architect, on behalf of the owners, George and Lillian Heyward, to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness-HD to allow the renovation of the Contributing Resource known as the Heyward Cottage, including the addition of approximately 230 SF to the 2187 SF, 1-story single family residential structure of located at 130 Pritchard Street, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Riverfront Edge- HD.(COFA-03-23-017840)(Staff - Katie Peterson)]

HE DID OKAY. THE SECOND ITEM OF MOVIES IS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT IS A CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS FOR A RENOVATION IN ADDITION TO A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE KNOWN AS THE HAYWARD COTTAGE. SO AND MANUEL WHO'S HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS GEORGE AND LILLIAN HAYWARD TO REQUEST THE APPROVAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO RENOVATE THE HAYWARD COTTAGE TO INCLUDE AN ADDITION OF APPROXIMATELY 230 SQUARE FEET TO THE EXISTING 2187 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY STOREY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE LOCATED AT ONE 3000 STREET WHICH IS IN THE OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IT IS RIVERFRONT EDGE. SO THIS MEANS THAT IT HAS FRONTAGE ON THE MAE RIVER SO THAT WILL ALWAYS BE THE FRONT OF THOSE LOT. I POINTED TO MY BACK AS I SAID FRONT MAY REVERSE THAT WAY. SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE IS PRITCHARD STREET.

WE CAN SEE THROUGH THE RAIN OUT YOUR WINDOW HERE SO AS YOU GO DOWN PRITCHARD STREET YOU GO INTO THE GRAVEL ROAD PORTION IT AND THIS LIGHT IS ON YOUR RIGHT HAND SIDE ALL THE WAY AT THE END. SO THIS THE MAE RIVER OR THE HAYWARD COVE AND THEN THE MAE RIVER IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN HERE HISTORIAN I HAVE CUT AND PASTED THE PLANS YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET TOGETHER SO THAT I'VE GOT THEM DIRECTLY NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

THIS SCREEN MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE CLARITY IF YOU ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE PACKETS

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THAT YOU HAD FOR YOU. SO THE EXISTING PLAN IS THE ONE WITHOUT HIGHLIGHTING ON IT AND THE DEMOLITION FLOOR PLAN IS THAT ON YOUR RIGHT? SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REPLACE SOME DOORS AND WINDOWS HERE, REMOVE THIS PORTION OF THE ENTRY PORCH, THIS PORTION OF THE EXTERIOR WALL SO THAT THEY CAN ENCLOSE THIS PORCH HERE THEY'LL REMOVE THIS PORTION OR THEY'RE NOT REMOVING BECAUSE THEY'RE ENCLOSING IT. SO THIS PORTION HERE WILL BE ENCLOSED AND THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION DOWN HERE FACING THE RIVER AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE REMOVING THIS PORTION HERE CHANGING OUT THIS WINDOW, THIS DOOR CHANGING NOW INTO A WINDOW AND THEN THIS SET RIGHT HERE THE WINDOW WILL BECOME A DOOR SO I CAN SHOW YOU IT AGAIN HERE WE'VE GOT THE REPLACEMENT WINDOW HERE FOR EGRESS AND THEN THIS WINDOW WILL REMAIN THERE ENCLOSING THE WINDOW THAT WAS HERE TO CREATE THE BEDROOM AND CHANGING THE OTHER WINDOW TO A DOOR SO IT'S IN THE SAME PLACE THE PREVIOUS WINDOW BUT IT IS BECOMING A DOOR.

THEY'RE ADDING THIS WALL HERE. THIS WAS AN OPEN PORCH. SO THIS PORTION WILL BECOME PART OF THE BEDROOM AND THEN THE IS INTERIOR TO THE SPACE BUT THERE ADDING THEY'RE ENCLOSING THIS AREA HERE AND THEN ADDING A PORCH OF THE SAME SIZE TO THE FRONT BEYOND THAT THEY'RE FIXING THE FIREPLACE HERE THEY'RE JUST RE THAT AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM HERE THEY'RE OPENING UP THIS WALL AND ADDING A DOOR WHERE THERE WAS A WINDOW AND A DOOR WHERE THE ROOM SORRY WINDOW WHERE THERE WAS A DOOR HERE AND THEN A DOOR WHERE THERE IS A WINDOW HERE TO MAKE THAT SO YOU'LL SEE IT BETTER. THIS IS THE PROPOSED ROOF PLAN SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE KITCHEN THAT WAS ENCLOSED AND THEN THE PORCH BEYOND. SO IT'S ABOUT HALF THE LENGTH HERE AND THEN THIS IS THAT NEW BEDROOM ADDITION HERE. THE REST OF THE ROOF REMAINS UNCHANGED AND FRONT ELEVATION THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE FROM THE FRONT BUT IF YOU LOOK INSIDE THE SCREEN YOU THE WINDOW THAT BECOMES A DOOR AND THEN THE DOOR THAT BECOMES THE WINDOW HERE ALL OF THAT IS REINFORCED LEAVING THE REVETMENT ON THE LEFT ELEVATION YOU'LL HAVE THE ENTRY PORCH THAT WAS HERE. THIS WILL BE COVERING UP THAT ENTRY PORCH. IT'LL BE JUST CLOSER TO THE WEST SIDE THERE.

SO ENCLOSES THAT THAT'S A NEW ADDITION BUT THE REST WILL REMAIN UNCHANGED ON THE REAR ADDITION I'M SORRY THE REAR YOU WILL HAVE THE BEDROOM WHICH WILL SIT RIGHT HERE IF YOU CAN SEE IT DOWN HERE. SO HERE'S THAT PORCH THAT CHANGED WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE IT ANY LONGER FROM THE OTHER SIDE AND THERE WILL BE AN ADDITION HERE THIS PORCH BECOMES ENCLOSED AND A NEW PORCH ADDED TO THE FRONT SO THERE'S A WALL THAT IT'S NOT IT'S OPEN TO THE AIR HERE AND THAT WILL REMAIN BASICALLY UNCHANGED. BUT THEY'LL FILL IN THIS PORTION HERE AND ADD A PORCH TO THE FRONT OF THAT AND THEN ON THE RIGHT ELEVATION YOU CAN SEE THAT ENCLOSED PORCH. SO THIS IS WHERE THAT PORCH WAS AND THIS IS WHAT THE WILL LOOK LIKE AND THEN THEY'LL ADD THE NEW PORCH IN FRONT OF THAT AND THIS IS THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE IS TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.

SO THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE IS REMAINING MOSTLY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT ONE WINDOW AND DOOR THIS IS THE WINDOW INDOOR SCHEDULE SO THEY'LL BE REUSING AND RELOCATING DOORS THAT WERE BEING USED TO WHAT IS BECOMING THE EXTERIOR SO WHERE THEY TOOK OUT THAT DOOR ON THE FRONT ELEVATION AND CHANGED IT TO A I'M SORRY ON THE REAR ELEVATION AND CHANGE IT TO A FOR THE NEW BEDROOM ADDITION THEY'LL BE TAKING THAT WINDOW AND IT FORWARD TO THE NEXT WALL SO THEY'RE STILL USING THOSE WINDOWS AND IF THEY ARE REPLACING THEM THEY WILL BE USING THE ALL WOOD MARVIN'S HISTORIC LINE WHICH WILL MATCH THE WINDOWS WHICH ARE ON THIS ON THE STRUCTURE. HERE ARE THE DETAILS. SO YOU'VE GOT THE BEDROOM SECTION FOR THE WALLS THE PROPOSED BRICK STAIRS THAT WILL BE PULLING FORWARD AND THE SHUTTER THIS HOUSE AGAIN IS A CONTINUING RESOURCE THAT ALREADY HAS SHUTTERS ON MOST OF THE WINDOWS THESE ARE THE NEW WHAT THEY WOULD NEED TO PUT ON THE NEW PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING THIS IS THE BEDROOM WALL SECTION AGAIN THAT'S THE PORCH I'M SORRY THAT'S THE PORCH. I WAS READING IT BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT.

THIS IS THE PORCH SO THIS IS WHERE THEY'VE INFILLED THAT KITCHEN SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE ROOFLINE THAT IS EXISTING AND THEN THE PROPOSAL IS TO TIE IT INTO HERE AND IT'LL FLATTEN BY JUST A LITTLE BIT I GOT AN EMAIL FROM LEE EARLIER I NOT PUT IT IN THE SLIDESHOW BECAUSE IT WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL BUT AS WE DISCUSSED THE APPLICATION I WILL PULL

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THAT PDF UP FOR YOU GUYS. THIS IS THE CANOPY COVERAGE FOR THE SITE SO AS YOU CAN SEE IT HAS 75% CANOPY COVERAGE. I BELIEVE THAT IT HAS CLOSE TO 98% CANOPY COVERAGE BASED ON THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY. AND THEN THIS IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN WE DO JUST REQUIRE THE FOUNDATION PLANTING SO THEY'RE MAINTAINING WAS THERE ESSENTIALLY FOR THE LANDSCAPING ALONG AREA WHICH WILL BE MODIFIED THEY'RE REMOVING A COUPLE OF SMALL BUSHES HERE THEY ARE MAINTAINING THE REQUIRED 1990. THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF PROGRESS SO HE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS AMENDED BY THE APPLICANT APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION BY THE APPLICANT AS THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE EIGHT REVIEWER CRITERIA WHICH ARE SET FORTH IN SECTION 318 THREE OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.

I SAY THAT LINE OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NEW SO YOU WILL HEAR IT A LOT.