Jun 28, 2023 Town of Bluffton Planning Commission

[I. CALL TO ORDER]

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. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER THIS WEDNESDAY JUNE THE 28TH AND I HAVE A PLEASE CHAIRWOMAN AMANDA JACKSON DENMARK HERE VICE CHAIRMAN CHARLIE WATMORE HERE IN THE CHAIR KATHLEEN DUNCAN COMMISSIONER RICCIARDO FOR KITCHENER JASON STEWART COMMISSIONER JIM WAS HERE

[III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT]

[IV. NOTICE REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENTS*]

[V. ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA]

[VI. CIVILITY PLEDGE]

[VII. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

[X.1. Lakes at New Riverside Phases 5 and 6 (Street Naming)]

[X.2. Midpoint (Street Naming)]

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THIS RENAMING APPLICATION WILL BE REVIEWED AT THE JUNE SEVEN, 2023 MEETING OF THE PRC WITH 17 OF THE 22 REQUEST ROAD NAMES APPROVED NO CONFLICT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTIONS ARE THE SAME AS THEY WERE WITH THE LAST PRESENTATION. THESE ARE THE CRITERIA AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS AND THE TOWN STAFF FINDS THAT 17 OF THE 22 PROPOSED NEW STREET NAMES ARE ACCEPTABLE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF ARTICLE THREE OF THE INDIO AS STATED ABOVE THAT THAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 315 THREE HAVE BEEN MET AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE FOLLOWING 17 ACCEPTED THERE THEY ARE ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU TO OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE SIR. SO YOU PULLED OUT SEAGRASS LANE AND CORAL HAZRA? THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION WE'VE RECOMMENDED AND THEY ONLY NEED SIX NAMES 77. OKAY.

I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAD A MEETING THE OTHER MIDPOINT HOMEOWNERS TO DISCUSS ALL OF THESE INSIDE YOUR QUESTIONS. YEAH AND SURPRISE YOU AGREED TO THREE AND 13 I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT CORAL CODE FROM CORAL COVE OR THEY WERE THEY WERE RECOMMENDED AS WITH NO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. YOU DON'T GO BACK TO THEM TO PICK ONE IF YOU GO WELL YEAH YEAH YEAH BECAUSE WE YOU KNOW WE KNOW HOW THAT FEELS OUR DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU HAVE ANCHOR ANCHOR ANCHOR DIFFERENT STREETS. RIGHT AND THIS IS THE SAME THING CORAL COVE IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR CRITERIA I WOULD SAY YOU CAN'T DO THAT MAKE A NOTION OF LET'S DO THAT. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? I WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEVELOPER PREFERS ONE OR THE OTHER BUT WOULD YOU TO SEE YOU CARE ABOUT WHICH ONE THEY DO NOT JUST TAKE ONE OF THEM OFF. I THINK EMOTIONALLY YOU MAKE THE MOST OF IT AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE OPTION. I'M I'M VERY PROFESSIONAL I'M I'M WILLING TO ACCEPT CHALLENGE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 13 CORAL COVE COURT BUT I HAVEN'T SET SECOND TO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON LABOR. SO YOU GET THE ROOT CAUSE YOU REALIZE THE DEVELOPER THAT THOSE ROADS YOU JUST I KNOW I KNOW HE'S SITTING RIGHT THERE

[X.3. Wetland Impact for Parcels 12A, 12B and 12C (Development Plan)]

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SO AS YOU COME IN THERE'S A DRIVE BASIN THAT'S BEING PROPOSED ALONG CURVE THEN THE WHOLE ROAD HEADS EASTWARD PARALLEL WITH THE PARKWAY THAT IS PICKING UP WHERE IT JUST LEFT OFF ON THE LAST SLIDE THAT IS THE FIRST INFILL WETLAND AREA AFTER THAT IS TWO MORE DRIVE BASINS FOR BUILDER BEYOND THAT THE TWO LINES THAT ARE RUNNING UP AND DOWN REPRESENT THE TOWN ON EXTENSION OF INNOVATION DRIVE WE WE ARE THE TOWN IS PREPARING THE REQUEST IS PREPARED TO ENCROACH ON THE PERMANENT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER AND THAT IS THE ONE CONDITION THAT I'VE ATTACHED TO THIS THAT I'LL GET TO BUT IT'S AN ENCROACHMENT FOR PERMANENT WRITTEN FOR THE TOWN IS ALLOWING THE THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE TO HAPPEN ACROSS OUR PROPERTIES AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN.

DOES THE TOWN HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT AT ALL? WE DON'T WE WOULD MAYBE BEEN DRAGGING THEIR FEET BIT ON THE RIGHT THERE BUT BUT IT'LL BE A CONDITION FOR A FINAL FINAL MONTHS SO WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF TIME FOR THAT AND THIS THE THIRD EXTENSION OF IT AND THIS IS CONTINUING EASTWARD WE'RE ALSO RETURNING TO BUCKWALTER PARKWAY AT THIS POINT YOU CAN SEE THE CORNER OF IT IN THE UPPER RIGHT. THIS IS WHERE THE SECOND LOCATION FOR WETLAND INFILL OCCURS AND IT'LL LAND IN A CUL DE SAC THAT'S JUST THAT LAST DOOR CUT TREE DOWN TO THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 310 THREE OF THE UNIO IN A SEPARATE IN ASSESSING AN FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THESE ARE THE CRITERIA THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ACTION PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE FOLLOW AND ACTION THEY CAN APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT THEY CAN APPROVE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS TABLE THE APPLICATION OR DENY THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT SHOULD THE PLANNING CHOOSE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS TOWN STAFF FINDS THAT THE CONDITIONS SHOULD BE MET PRIOR TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 310 THREE A AND THAT IS ONE CONDITION IS AN APPROVED AND APPROVED ENCROACHMENT PERMIT ALLOWING THE APPLICANT TO PERFORM WORK WITHIN THE TOWN ON

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ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TANNER AND THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE THERE IF YOU BELIEVE.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MY NAME IS DAVID LONG WITH THOMAS AND HUTTON AS THEY HAD MENTIONED WE ALSO HAVE THE UNIVERSITY OF YOUR BODY.

YES SO THE OF THIS WAS OUR THE WEAPON PERMIT EXPIRES IN JUNE OF 2022 SO WE CAME TO THE TOWN AND EXPLAINED THAT WE HAD THESE WETLAND CROSSINGS THAT WE'D LIKE DO AND ANY FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD UTILIZE THOSE SAME WELL THE CROSSINGS THAT WERE PROPOSED SO YOU MAY RECALL A WHILE BACK THE THE APPLICANT CAME FORWARD WITH THE ANNEXATION OF SOME PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH THAT ENDED UP GETTING DENIED. RIGHT AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE FACT THAT THE PARKWAY REALIGNMENT HAS NOT ULTIMATELY BEEN BEEN DETERMINED TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY. SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ACT TO GET THE WETLANDS WETLANDS BILL BEFORE THE PERMIT EXPIRES. AS DAN MENTIONED, WE LINED UP WITH THE ACCESS PLAN. THERE IS A FUTURE OR A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY THE TOWN IN THE SAME LOCATION THERE SO WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT THE SERVICES THAT SAME ACCESS BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE WE'VE GOT SOIL TESTING FOR THIS CURRENTLY ONGOING OR IN THE FOURTH AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND IN THAT SENSE THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU FOR REFERENCE EVEN OF THE ACCESS POINT I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS A MINING THAT IS BETTER THAN WHAT I HAVE CIRCLED IN YELLOW IS THE ACTUAL THAT'S THE ENTRANCE OF THE TOP MISSION AND MY QUESTION IS TO START THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD MENTION IS THE THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE IT THERE'S GOT THAT DASH LINE FOR BASICALLY REPRESENTING LIKE A FRONT AND DREW RIGHT THESE WETLAND CROSSINGS ALSO ALIGN WHAT THAT FRONTAGE ROAD WOULD BE AS WELL THAT WILL CONNECT BACK OVER TO TOWARD ANTELOPE FARMS AND JANE AND THEN I THINK THE HARD PART FOR ME IS THAT THERE IS NO PLAN AND THIS IS SITTING ON THE PRECIPICE OF BECAUSE IT'S SERVING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S WHY THIS IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN A MASTER PLAN AND AS IT CURRENTLY IS PROPOSED A DIRT ROAD THAT DOESN'T CONNECT IS REALLY ACTUALLY SERVING THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. I UNDERSTAND THAT AT SOME POINT THOSE WETLAND PROMISES WILL BE USED BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OFF OF SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS. AND SO I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A I'M HAVING A LITTLE TIME WITH THAT AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT'S NOT EVEN JUST COMING FROM A CENTRAL ACCESS POINT AND ADDING TO WETLANDS, IT'S COMING FROM THE FAR SIDE THEN TRAVELING THIS WAY.

SO IT'S EVEN GREATER IMPACT THAN WHAT WOULD BE NECESSARY JUST TO ACHIEVE THE MEANS OF THE WETLAND IMPACTS TO DO THAT BEFORE IT EXPIRES. SO FIRST OF ALL I THINK IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BUT I WHEN I LOOKED AT THE THING WITH THE TREES I THINK THERE WERE SOME SIGNIFICANT TREES. I THINK IN THE DRC RESPONSE IT SEEMED TO CHANGE BASINS FOUR AND FIVE TO TRY TO SAVE THOSE TREES BUT I DON'T THINK I GOT THOSE NEW DRAWINGS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE DRAWINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE ARE THE NEW DRAWINGS AND THAT COMMENT WAS BASED ON THE OLD DRAWINGS WERE THERE IN FACT THERE WAS A WELL IT'S A 50 FOOT SETBACK SO THEY SO THEY HAD TO TO CHANGE THE SHAPE OF THEIR RETENTION PONDS IN THE 50 FOOT REQUIREMENT INITIALLY HAD 25. YEAH THAT'S RIGHT AND ALSO THE PONDS THE EAST WERE ADJUSTED FOR ANY ANY LARGER TREES BECAUSE I WAS NORTHERN OAKS IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE COME UP TO THE AREA AND MY FRIEND WAS YEAH THE NORTHERN POND THAT YOU SEE THERE ON THAT ONE THAT'S WHERE

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I GUESS MY QUESTION IS AGAIN MAYBE NOT AS RELEVANT BUT I JUST THE QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO MAYBE THE FUTURE PLANS AS WELL WHAT IS THE SENSE I MEAN AGAIN I KNOW THAT'S COME UP BEFORE AND I WANTED TO BRING IT UP ONE MORE TIME AND ASK JUST IF YOU MIND ASKING YOU KNOW I MEAN IS THIS WATER COMMONS I BELIEVE IS WHAT IS WHAT IS LABELED SO IT COULD BE A NUMBER THINGS THAT ALLOW USERS WITHIN THE THE PURPOSE WAS KIND OF APPROACHING WAS THAT ANY MASTER PLAN WOULD UTILIZE THOSE WETLAND IMPACTS RIGHT WE DON'T HAVE A MASTER PLAN BECAUSE AGAIN WE WERE RUNNING UP AGAINST THE CLOCK OF THE WELL ENVIRONMENT EXPIRING SO BASED ON THE THERE AND THEN THE ANNEXATION DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE BOSTON UNCERTAINTY THEY'RE NOT READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH INITIAL MASTER PLAN AT THIS TIME SO LITERALLY WOULD JUST BE DIG IN THE PONDS TO GET THE DIRT TO FILL THE WETLANDS AND AND DO THAT NOW VERSUS LATER.

I MEAN IF YOU DO THAT NOW, ARE YOU PIGEONHOLING YOURSELF INTO WHAT YOU CAN DO WELL NO IT WOULD JUST BE THE THE CORPS PERMIT APPLY THAT TAKES A YEAR AND A HALF TO TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO OBTAIN AND THIS WAS PART OF A LARGER PERMIT AS WERE A LOT OF PERMITS FOR WETLANDS.

SO AGAIN IT'S GOING TO EXPIRE IN JUNE. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE AHEAD OF THAT AND GET THE WETLANDS IMPACTED UNDER THE CURRENT PERMIT BUT I SAW THE RESPONSE IN THE NARRATIVE OR COULD YOU JUST TALK US THROUGH THE REASONING BEHIND WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO ACCESS FROM THE TOWN OF UPTON'S FUTURE? YEAH, SO TWO THINGS THERE.

ONE. ONE IS WE'VE GOT ABOUT A 200 FOOT BUFFER FROM THE EXISTING AS WE NOW THERE'S A 200 FOOT TWO POWER EASEMENTS THERE AND THEN WE'VE GOT THAT BUFFER SO YOU WOULDN'T SEE YOU WOULD SEE THE CLEARING MAYBE OBVIOUSLY AT THE LEFT SIDE WHERE IT CONNECTS TO THE PARKWAY BUT THE THOUGHT WAS TO KEEP THE CLEARING AND NOT INVITE PEOPLE TO THE CURIOSITY LINING RIGHT ACROSS FROM INNOVATION DRIVE. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DRIVE OVER THERE AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. WE'VE TRIED TO PREVENT THAT AND THEN THE FACT THAT BOTH OF THOSE ARE ACCESS IS ON THE APPROVED ACCESS PLAN SO THAT ULTIMATELY B ACCESS IS BUT THE ONE TO THE WEST ALSO HAS A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT UNDER REVIEW BY THE TOWN WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLEARING THAT IF THEY GET APPROVAL ALL LIKELIHOOD IS THEY WILL AND SO THAT WAY WE'D ONLY HAVE TO LIMIT THE DISTURBANCE TO JUST THAT ACCESS BECAUSE THEY'LL USE THE SAME ONE BUT THEY'LL PROBABLY IMPROVE AND PAVE IT AND THEN WEST TO THEIR PROPERTY AND THEN THE DIRT ROAD WOULD JUST BE EAST AND THEN OFFSET OFF OF THE PARKWAY FOR ONCE YOU GET TO BECOME VERSIONS OF WHERE AND YES YOU BECAUSE I GOT TO THINK ABOUT THIS I SHOULD HAVE APPROACHED QUESTIONS YESTERDAY ON THE DRY PONDS ARE THOSE SET IN STONE OR DO THOSE GO THROUGH STORMWATER THEY HAVE TO DO FOR STORMWATER REMOVAL? SO THIS WHOLE PLAN HAS TO GO THROUGH FULL STORMWATER AND PRIOR TO FINAL YES OF OF SEEING IS PROBABLY INTERESTED I'M SEEING THIS ROAD GO BEYOND IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR A SECOND YOU SEE WHERE IT BASICALLY CURVES AND GOES UP TO INNOVATION DRIVE. IT DOES NOT GO BEYOND THAT POINT SO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS GOING BEYOND THAT POINT SO TWO THINGS FIRST OF ALL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING READY FOR THE ACCESS BACK AND FORTH THIS GOES BEYOND THAT.

BUT THE SECOND AND THE MORE MAJOR QUESTION MY MIND IS HOW DOES WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED RELATE TO THE PROPOSED REALIGNED BLUFFTON PARKWAY? DOES IT INTERFERE WITH IT? DOES IT GO IN CONJUNCTION CAN IT BE TIED IN IF PEOPLE WAKE UP AND REALIZE WE NEED THIS BEFORE IT'S DEVELOPED? YEAH. SO I MEAN THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY THAT THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN GOING ON OH KNOW I'VE BEEN AROUND YEAH VERY LONG TIME OBVIOUSLY YES ALIGNMENT DOES ALIGN WITH THE WORK ENVIRONMENT THAT'S THAT'S MORE AN ANGLE I

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THEY DON'T HAVE THAT THERE SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND BEEN PLANNING IT.

JUST TAKE YOU HAVE TO KNOW TAKES A WHILE TO GET A PLAN. WE TO KEEP OUR COMMITMENT TO WHAT KEEPS THEM CROSSING BECAUSE THEY'RE HARD TO GET BUT ALL OF OUR PLANS NOW START WITH CONNECTIVITY FROM WHEN WHEN AND TO THE OTHER AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE CROSSINGS DATING BACK I YEAH I SEE A SENSE OF ANY MINOR SENSE OF HESITATION BY THE COMMISSION JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SEEING THE WHOLE PICTURE I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT BUT IF I HEAR YOU RIGHT SO IF WE TAKE THIS JUST JUST TO KIND OF SET IT IN MY MIND IF WE TAKE THIS RED DOTTED LINE THAT'S GOING UP TOWARDS TOWN VISION AND WE EXTEND IT, IT'S GOING END UP BY THE UP AND DOWN ARROW THAT GOES TO LAKE POINT PRETTY MUCH THAT IS ACTUALLY YOU HAVE Y'ALL THE RIGHT AROUND HERE FOR YOU YOU HAVE THE WRONG ROAD THAT THAT THE END OF IT NOT WHAT IF IT WAS SHIFTED AND THE COUNTY HAS IMPROVED IT BE SHIFTED UP A LITTLE BIT SO YOU GET IT THAT'S OKAY WITH IT IS SAYING YEAH WITH THAT SHIFT THIS ROAD COMES STRAIGHT ACROSS ALMOST TO WHERE THE LINE IS NOT JUST ABOUT WHERE THE LINE IS BUT IT IN NO WAY AND THEN IT GOT RADICALLY REALIGNED THAT THE PEOPLE WHAT YOU ARE FOR THAT THEORETICALLY YOU'LL HAVE THAT CONNECTION THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT CONNECTION THAT YOU HAVE TODAY THAT'S OKAY YEAH I'M GOING TO HAVE TAKE FURTHER AND I AM GOING TO ON I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE PLAN AS WITH THE CONDITION OF YOUR CONDITION THAT AN APPROVED ENCROACHMENT PERMIT ALLOWING THE APPLICANT PERFORM WORK WITHIN THE TOWN ON THE INNOVATION DRIVE EXTENSION PROPERTY ALREADY REQUIRED PRIOR TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

I HAVE SECOND PARAGRAPH OF ADJACENT SO I LEFT BEFORE THIS MAP MOVES I ANY FURTHER

[X.4. Public Hearing]

THANK YOU. THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE AMENDMENTS OF VARIOUS AMENDMENTS WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND AS YOU KNOW, WE DO CONTINUAL ASSESSMENTS AND IDENTIFY ANY INCIDENTS THAT TO BE AMENDED AND WE STILL ARE FINDING THINGS

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I DO HAVE THE AMENDMENTS FOR ME TO PULL THAT OUT SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IN DEPTH.

SO THE FIRST SITE WE HAVE IS RELATED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE RENEW PUBLIC SERVICE REQUIREMENT FOR DEMOLITION OF ANY STRUCTURE JUST CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES WITHIN OLD TOWN WE DO REQUIRE POSTING AND WE HAVE SUFFICIENT THERE'S A STATE REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC STATUS AND SO THERE'S THAT PROPOSAL WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING REMOVING THE POSTING REQUIREMENT AND PUBLISH NOTICE T ON OUR WEBSITE AND AT TOWN HALL AND SEND TO REGISTRANTS ANYONE SIGNS UP FOR EMAILS FROM THE TOWN AND WE WILL SEND THIS INFORMATION OUT HERE SO THAT INFORMATION WILL BE WE DO POST OUR MEETINGS AS WELL ON OUR TOWN HALL SO THAT INFORMATION IS ALREADY AVAILABLE AND WE DON'T NEED THAT EXTRA STEP REGARDING SIGNAGE WE ARE PROPOSING AND THIS IS A CORRECTION TO LIMIT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF FLAGS WITHIN OLD TO TWO. NOW AS AN OVERSIGHT WE NEED AMENDMENTS THE SIGN ORDINANCE IN THE PAST AND WE'RE ALSO SPECIFICALLY CALLING OUT CLUTTER SIGNS OR FEATHERS SIGNS AS YOU SEE THERE IN THE GRAPHIC AS A PROHIBITED SIGN TYPE.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THESE ARE VERY POPULAR AND WE SEE THEM, YOU KNOW, QUITE OFTEN ADDITIONALLY WE ARE RECOMMENDING A THE ADDITION OF A MEDIAN HOUSE TYPE TO ALL TOWN TO HISTORIC DISTRICT. THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE TYPE IS SIMILAR TO BOTH VILLAGE AND VERNACULAR LIVING. HOWEVER WE DO NOT HAVE A 1 TO 2 STORY HOUSE TYPE.

WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS NEEDED AND WITH THIS WILL ALSO COME THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IS TO PASS THE BILL TO LINE AS WELL AND WE BELIEVE IF WE HAVE THE MEDIAN HOUSE TYPE THERE'S GOING TO BE LESS ON THE ADDITIONAL HOUSE TYPE WHICH HAS THAT'S IN THE BILL TO LINE THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE APPROPRIATE FOR CERTAIN LOCATIONS AND THAT WILL CLOSE THAT PARTICULAR WITH REGARDS TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT I KIND OF HIT ON THAT ALREADY.

WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT WE ADJUST THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR SEVERAL BUILDING TYPES FROM FIVE FEET INTO THE THAT WOULD BE AGAIN SIDE YARD. WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH DRIVEWAYS PERHAPS BEING TOO TO THE PROPERTY LINE WHICH IN SOME CASES IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND THIS MAY ACTUALLY SAVE SOME VEGETATION AND TREES AS WELL REGARDING AND TOWERS WE JUST WANT TO ADD BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT SEVEN STATING ABOVE ZONING DISTRICT MAXIMUM WE ARE IDENTIFYING THAT IT'S ABOUT REDUCING GROUND LEVEL AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS THAT DID NOT APPEAR IN RECENTLY FOR THE STAFF IDENTIFYING THESE AND IF YOU FEEL THEY WERE APPROPRIATE YOU COULD POSSIBLY MAKE AMENDMENT TO AMENDMENTS AS WELL. SO ONE IS TO ELIMINATE THE PERMIT REQUIRED FOR TEMPORARY FOR PROPERTY SALES AND LEASES CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND CAMPAIGNS, ELECTION SIGNS OR OTHER AND THIS IS A CORRECTION WHEN WE DID THE SIGN ORDINANCE UPDATE WE LOOKED AT THE SENTENCE AND SO AGAIN THIS JUST A CORRECTION AND THEN WE'D ALSO LIKE TO SUGGEST THE ELIMINATION OF THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENT FOR STREET NAMING WE CAN DO IT STARTS LOCAL THAT IS NOT A STATE REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC NOTICE THERE IS A RENAMING THAT WILL BE ATTACHED AND ADDITIONALLY WE LIKE TO SUGGEST A PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENT FOR MINOR AMENDMENTS TO A SUBDIVISION PLAN WHEN IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH AN ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN BECAUSE THERE WILL BE PUBLIC NOTICE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. SO WITH THAT WE BELIEVE THE CRITERIA ARE BEING MET ACTUALLY FOR THE CRITERIA APPLY IT SAYS IN THE APPLICATION'S MANUAL AND HERE ARE THE POTENTIAL ACTIONS THAT YOU CAN TAKE THREE ARE MEETINGS WITHIN MINUTES YOU WILL HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION SHOWING YOU IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT THE RECOMMENDATION MADE TO TOWN COUNCIL THAT MOVING FORWARD THE COUNCIL ON JULY 11 AND THEN A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE SET FOR AUGUST EIGHT SO THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDED MOTION AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ IT YOU SEE HERE IT DOES INCLUDE THE TWO ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT RE SUGGESTED THOSE OF THE STAFF REPORT AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS FOR SURE IS THAT NINE ANYONE BEHIND A MOTION SO I WOULD LIKE

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YOU WENT TO THE BATHROOM BUT, DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS TALKING AND THEN WHEN I WALKED BACK IN WE TALKED ABOUT A FOURTH CONCERNING NEVER MIND. NO COME IN SO NEED HER A MOTION NOT A RECOMMENDED MOTION TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CALLED ORDINANCE CHAPTER 23 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT AVOIDANCE AS RECOMMENDED BY TOWN STAFF WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS SECTION .3.7 ELIMINATED THE SAME PERMIT REQUIREMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING TEMPORARY SIGNAGE PROPERTY SALES LEASES CONTRACTS AND PROJECTS INCLUDE PEOPLE CAMPAIGN SIGNS SECTION 3.24 ELIMINATED THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENT FOR STREET NAMING OF A MINOR SUBDIVISION ASSOCIATED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO THE SECOND CIRCUIT AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON FAVOR I THINK YOU

[X.5. Big Blue Marble Academy (Certificate of Appropriateness- Highway Corridor Overlay)]

WE PUT SAMANTHA DOWN AS THE APPLICANT LOCATIONS ON THE APPLICATION AND JUST TO HEAR YOU PRONOUNCE NAME AND MARK IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICATION SO EVERY TIME WE HAVE THE APPLICATIONS TO EVERY WEEK JEREMY DURING THE FIRST OF THE TWO ITEMS I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT IS A CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE AS HAVING FOR A RELATED STORY A BLUE MARBLE ACADEMY AMENDMENT THROUGH THAT. SO HERE IS THE PLAN FOR BIG BLUE MARBLE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE YOU'VE WILL CREATE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN LATER ON THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN THERE IS A WETLAND AREA TO THE RIGHT AND THEN VERY BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN IS SOUTH CAROLINA 170. THAT'S SO I HAVE LABELED THEM BECAUSE THIS SITE IS ACTUALLY ON A 45 DEGREE ANGLE AND SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING WHEN .

YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN THAT IS SITTING ON A POWERPOINT SLIDE BUT THE NORTH ELEVATION IS LABELED HERE. IT'S WHAT FACES LATER STREET IN THE PARKING SO NORTH IS NORTH ON THIS SCREEN HERE BUT THIS WHOLE SITE IS ROTATED ABOUT 45 DEGREES SO I'VE LABELED THEM WITH WHERE THEY'RE FACING TO HELP ANYBODY THERE SO YOU GOT THE FRONT ELEVATION AND IS THE ONE ON THE SCREEN WHICH FACES HIGHWAY 170 AND THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR PROPERTY FRONT IS THE HIGHWAY REGARDLESS OF HOW THE SITE IS ACCESSED OR USED. SO THE FRONT ELEVATION IS THE SECOND ONE ON YOUR SCREEN AND YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY IN WHICH CASE THERE'S NO GREAT BOULEVARD HERE. YOU GOT IT WITH YOU CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO SIDES BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE SET OF AIR CONDITIONING UNITS ON THIS ONE THAT HAVE THE SEAWALL IN FRONT IT AND ON THE EAST ELEVATION WHICH FACES THE PLAY AREA TOWARDS THE WETLAND IS THE DOUBLE SET OF UNITS HERE THAT SPLIT ON EITHER SIDE OF THE WINDOW SO AGAIN THE REAR WHICH FACES A PARKING AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN FRONT THAT FACES HIGHWAY 70 WEST WHICH FACES MILL CREEK AND EAST WHICH FACES THE PLAY AREA THAT YOUR ELEVATION ENCLOSURE IS HERE ALL OF US HAVE IN OUR LIVES MORE DETAILED OBVIOUSLY IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

SO YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU AND WELCOME TO GO BACK TO ANY OF THESE AND THEN HERE IS YOUR COLOR BOARD FOR THE ROOFING SIDING BRICK DETAIL WORK AT THE BOTTOM THEY DO HAVE THE COLORS LISTED OVER HERE AND THEY ARE SHOWN IN COLOR HERE SO THEY SHOULD BE CLOSE TO ACCURATE ON HERE BUT THE ACTUAL COLOR NAMES ARE LISTED IN HOLLYWOOD.

THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SO YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHWAY IS ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN AGAIN HAVE PUT THE SAME SCHEDULE HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN KNOW I LIKE TO DO A NICE

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THIS IS THE LIGHTING THAT AND THEN THE REVIEW CRITERIA IS FOUND IN MUCH GREATER DETAIL IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. HOWEVER IT'S THE DESIGN CRITERIA IN ARTICLE FIVE.

IN THIS CASE THE ONLY ITEM ARTICLE FIVE THAT APPLIES TO THIS SITE IS WHEN IT COMES TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WHICH TRANSLATES INTO SOME OF THE TREE PROTECTION SLASH LANDSCAPING STANDARDS AND THEN THERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PRETTY CONCEPT PLAN MASTER SUBDIVISION AND ANY OTHER APPLICABLE AGREEMENTS OR PLANS WHICH INCLUDES THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THEN IT ALSO MUST COMPLY WITH OUR OBLIGATIONS THAT ALL BUT I ENVISION THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HAVING OR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT OR THE REQUEST OF AN APPLICANT TABLE THE APPLICATION AS WELL THE STAFF RECOMMENDS WITH THE FOLLOWING THE FOLLOWING ITEMS NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES COULD MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THE FIRST ONE I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE FRONT OF THE CASE MANAGER AND THEN WE CAN WRITE DOWN ON ANYTHING OR CAN'T SEE APARTMENTS.

THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN MUST BE REVISED TO INCLUDE BROADLEAF OVERSTORY TREE IN EACH PENINSULA SO OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN YOU CAN SEE HERE THESE RIGHT HERE ARE THE LANDSCAPED ISLANDS REQUIRE THOSE CURRENTLY THEY'RE BEING SHOWN AS A CREATE MYRTLE WHICH IS NOT OVERSTORY TREES. THE SECOND ONE IS THAT THE TRANSFORMER NEEDS ADDITIONAL SCREENING BECAUSE IT IS UTILITY AND IT IS AT THE FRONT OF THE SITE.

THIS IS A REALLY CHALLENGING LOCATION BECAUSE THE TRANSFORMER DOES HAVE TO BE CLOSED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY. HOWEVER WITH THIS. THERE'S SOME REALLY GREAT SCREENING ALL IN HERE BUT BECAUSE OF THIS TRIANGLE OVER THE CORNER WE JUST NEED A LITTLE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AND. THE MATERIALS THAT THEY'VE PROPOSED ARE ACTUALLY FIVE HOMES AND IF LARGER THAN CURRENTLY PROPOSED FOR THE TWO GALLON INSTALLATION THEY MAY BE ACCEPTABLE. SO THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THOSE THE SCREENING FOR THAT TRANSFORMER THERE. THE NEXT ONE IS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER NEEDS TO BE CONTINUOUS AT SLATER STREET. THIS IS A COMMENT THAT WAS RECEIVED AT THE DRAFT EVENT RIGHT NOW IT SHRUBS TO BE ADDED FOR LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THIS ELEVATION HERE AND RIGHT ABOUT THAT SCREEN RIGHT AND IT SAID THIS AREA HERE NEEDS TO HAVE SOME LANDSCAPING THAT IS BUFFERED UP AND WHERE WHERE THOSE AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAS ALSO CAPTURED THIS COMMENT IN THEIR REVIEWS SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WILL BE AWARE OF . THE NEXT ITEM IS THAT THERE ARE MECHANICALS THAT ARE ON THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE. THIS PHASE IS HIGHWAY 170 THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE THOSE NEED TO BE RELOCATED SO THAT THEY ARE NOT FACING THE HIGHWAY OR THEY ARE ADEQUATELY SCREENED WITH AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE MEANING A ROOFLINE OR SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE TO DISGUISE THOSE FROM VIEW FOR THE HIGHWAY 170 AND THEN ALONG THE SAME LINES THERE ARE ELECTRIC THAT ARE ON THE FRONT ELEVATION HERE AS WELL SO THOSE NEED TO EITHER BE RELOCATED POTENTIALLY TO A SIDE ELEVATION OR TO BE SCREENED WITH AN ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE NOT VISIBLE. THE NEXT ONE IS THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED SPLIT FOOT FENCE CMU THAT IS FINE IS A BASE MATERIAL HOWEVER SPLIT BASE OKAY SO CMU BLOCK IS NOT A PERMITTED MATERIAL IN THE HIGHWAY QUARTER SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PHASED APPROPRIATELY. THIS COULD BE IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS. IT DOES NEED TO HAVE SOME RELATIONSHIP TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. WE COULD HAVE STUCCO WHILE APPROPRIATE IN SOME LOCATIONS PROBABLY NOT IN THIS ONE AND THIS ONE HAS BRICK AND HARDY BUT NO CAVITY.

SO AT THE END FINISHED MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE OR A HARDY PLAIN MATERIALS.

I LIKE THAT. THE NEXT ONE IS THAT THE METAL FENCE DETAIL HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE EXPENSE AFTER I FINISHED THIS REPORT DAN DID FIND A DETAIL OF IT WITHIN THE VALENTINE IT WAS BURIED IN THERE SO I COULD NOT I DIDN'T SEE IT WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THIS IS THE FENCE THAT RUNS FROM HERE ALONG THE FRONT TIES AND AT THE CORNER ENCLOSES THE PLAY AREA AND THEN AROUND THE FRONT HERE AND TIES BACK AT THE

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THE NEXT ITEM IS THAT THE DORMERS SHOULD BE CENTERED OVER THE ELEMENTS BELOW THEM.

LOWCOUNTRY VERNACULAR IS TRADITIONAL IT'S TYPICALLY A TRADITIONAL CONFIGURATION OF GENUINE MATERIALS THAT'S THE LANGUAGE FROM OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPED GARDEN FROM HISTORIC DISTRICT BUT OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT IS OUR BEST EXAMPLE OF LOWCOUNTRY ARCHITECTURE IN THIS AREA. SO THE AREA THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF ARE THESE DORMERS HERE ON THE FRONT ELEVATION THEY ARE CENTERED BETWEEN DOORS, THEY'RE CENTERED BETWEEN WINDOWS, THE ELEMENTS BENEATH THEM LINE UP ON THE FRONT ELEVATION THAT IS THE ACTUAL ELEVATION.

THEY ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT OFF CENTER FROM ALL OF THE ELEMENTS IT AND SO IT GIVES IT A LITTLE HAPHAZARD APPEARANCE FOR HOW IT'S LINING UP IT MAKES IT READ MORE THAT REAR ELEVATION THEN IN THE FRONT THE NEXT ONE IS THAT THE THE FRONT ELEVATION BE RECONSIDERED TO BETTER ADDRESS THE STREET BECAUSE THIS IS AGAIN AMAZING 170 I REPEATED THAT A FEW TIMES I GUESS BUT IT NEEDS TO ADDRESS THE STREET SO THAT IT IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF PROVIDING FENESTRATION INCLUDING THIS CENTERPIECE HERE THEY HAVE ADDED THE DORMERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I AND THIS IS MY OWN OPINION AS I WAS REVIEWING IT THAT IT'S POTENTIALLY THERE IF THEY START TO READJUST SOME OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS HAVE BEEN CAPTURED ABOVE WHERE IF THE DORMER BECOMES CENTERED NOW IT READS MORE AT THE FRONT IF THE MECHANICALS GET RELOCATED IT NOW REINFORCED THE FRONT. SO IT MAY BE THAT I A COMBINATION OF THOSE THINGS MAY HELP THAT LAST COMING THE NEXT COMING OUT IS FOR THE LIGHTING I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE BUT THEY PROPOSED PURPOSEFULLY DELAYED BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE AUDIENCE DIDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS WRITTEN AND.

SO A DETERMINATION ON THE APPROPRIATENESS OF LEDS AS OPPOSED TO THE I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY GAP SLIDES THAT THEY PROPOSED IN THE AND DETERMINATION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE ON APPROPRIATE OR NOT. THE NEXT ONE IS JUST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ENSURING THAT ALL OF THOSE LEDS SHOW YOU FIND THAT APPROPRIATE ARE CUT OFF AND THAT THEY HAVE THEIR FULL CUT OFF AND THEY HAVE A CONCEALED SOURCE. THE THIRD ONE FOR LIGHTING IS THAT THE LIGHT POLES HAVE CONTACT WITH THE TREES AND ON THE LANDSCAPE LAY IN ALL OF THOSE TREES THAT ARE THE GREAT MYRTLES WHICH SELL LEAFY GREENS TO THE BROADLY TREES AND THEY'RE LOCATED AT THE FRONT OF THE PENINSULA HERE THEN AT THE LIGHTING AND THEY MOVE THAT THERE'S SOME GREAT MYRTLES SO IF THE TREES ARE PROPOSED AS THEY ARE SHOWN ON THE LIGHTING PLAN THERE'S NOT A CONFLICT WITH THE LOCATION BUT THERE IS STILL CONFLICT WITH THE TYPE IF THE TREES HAVE SHOWN AS THE LANDSCAPING SHOWS THEN THE CONFLICT WITH THE TYPE AND THE PLACEMENT SO THAT TO BE ADDRESSED AND THEN IF THE LANDSCAPE IS THE CORRECT ITERATION THE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN WILL NEED TO BE UPDATED TO REFLECT WHERE THEY MOVE THOSE LIGHTS TO TO ENSURE THAT IT'S STILL VISIBLE EMISSION STANDARDS THE FINAL THREE ARE ALL UNDER OTHER ITEMS THEY INCLUDE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS TO BE FINALIZED BEFORE IT'S APPROPRIATE AS CAN BE BECAUSE THE CERTIFICATE OF PROGRESS ALWAYS NEEDS TO COME OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND THE CYPRESS RIDGE COVENANT RESTRICTION THE DECLARATION FOR CAPITAL RESTRICTIONS IS FOR BY THE LETTER I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME IT'S STILL D.R. HORTON.

IT HAS HANDED OFF YET TO NEW HOMEOWNERS BUT BECAUSE IT LOCATED IN THAT MASTER PLAN WE NEED A LETTER FROM THEM IS ITS ADMINISTRATIVE DETAIL AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ANY SIGNAGE WILL HAVE TO BE REVIEWED THE DESIGN RESULTING PERMIT THOSE THREE ITEMS ARE THINGS THAT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT I HAVE MEMORIZED JUST LIKE THE ACTIONS OF THE BASIS FOR THIS APPLICATION. SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. I'VE LISTED THEM ALL OUT IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HERE SO

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YES, THAT'S PRETTY SMALL BETWEEN THE PIECE OF THIS THAT CORNER THAT ON ONE SIDE LONGER BUT WE CAN ON THE OUTER CORNER OF THAT SIDEWALK AND THE PROPERTY LINE MAYBE LIKE TWO THREE FEET. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT PRELIMINARY I DON'T THINK THAT WALKWAY WAS THERE BECAUSE WE HAD A WHOLE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE THIS HANDICAPPED PARKING WAS AND POTENTIALLY LOCATING IT SO IT DIDN'T HAVE TO DO YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO COME ACROSS A CROSSWALK SO I DON'T REMEMBER THAT WALK WITH INTENT MAYBE IT WAS TWO THREE FEET OF INSUFFICIENT NUMBER AND IF IT STAYS WHICH I COULD EVEN I COULD EVEN POSSIBLY GET ON BOARD THAT AT LEAST NEEDS TO CONNECT TO THE WALKWAY AND SO I WOULD TAKE IT TO A POINT I MAYBE HAD FOUR OR FIVE FEET AND MAYBE THAT'S I MEAN THAT DOES MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT BUT I THINK IT'S A BIG MISS JUST TO HAVE THAT NOT TO SEE THE CHALLENGE THERE WITH THE FOR PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY THAT IS REQUIRED BECAUSE OF THE HANDICAPPED SPACE FOR HOW THEY DO THAT IS THERE SEVERAL WAYS THAT THAT COULD BE PROPOSED POTENTIALLY INCREASING THE SIZE OR THE OR TYPE OF PLANTINGS IN THAT AREA BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE PROPERTY LINE? WOULD THAT BE A POTENTIALLY SUFFICIENT EXCLUSION FOR ME? I MEAN WHERE IT'S CLOSED THERE THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A GOOD POINT. IT'S SOMETHING IF YOU PUT SOMETHING BIGGER YOU'RE JUST BASICALLY ENCROACHING ON THE WALKWAY THAT'S THERE. SO THAT DOESN'T REALLY NECESSARILY WORK WELL EITHER AND EVERYTHING WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS EITHER SULTANAS OR BOTTLE BRUSH BONE WHICH IS POISONOUS AND SALT PROBLEMS WHICH ARE POPPING THAT'S GOOD FOR JORDAN. NEITHER ONE OF THOSE ARE GOOD FOR CHILDREN AND SO POTENTIALLY RECONSIDERING THAT FINDING THAT THERE ARE THESE EVERGREEN WHICH I CAN APPRECIATE BUT THE FACT IS IS THAT THAT'S A VERY NARROW WITH ME TRYING TO PLAY IT BETWEEN THAT SIDEWALK THAT GIVES THEM MAYBE A COMPLIANCE AND THE SIDEWALK NOT KNOW WHERE IT.

AND I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUICK CLARIFICATION ON THAT I WANTED TO ASK WHICH WAS YOU'D MENTIONED BUFFER ON SLATER STREET. ARE YOU REFERRING TO THEY NEED TO BE PLANTING OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR YOU'RE JUST SAYING IT NEEDS TO BE MORE CONTIGUOUS WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE, MORE CONTINUOUS IN WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE. I AGREE. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KATIE BEFORE? I DO ONE YOU SAID YOU DO FIND DETAIL ON THE FENCE A EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THAT THAT WAS ONE OF MY MAJOR CONCERNS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND I WANT TO KNOW HOW TALL IT WAS TOO.

OKAY I CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT WHILE THE APPLICANT OR PERHAPS THEY CAN SPEAK TO IT SPECIFICALLY BUT I CAN POTENTIALLY PULL IT UP FOR YOU FOR THAT.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP THAT HE CAN ANSWER SOME RIGHT AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME YOU'RE NOT REMEMBER IT WAS I TRYING TO SAY ABSOLUTELY NOT WE HAVE NOT PLANNED THE SALE.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THANK LISTENERS COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS MARK BERGER ON BEHALF OF THE AID FOR TEAM DEVELOPMENT SAMANTHA HAS BEEN WORKING WITH STAN TO WORK THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL.

SHE HAD A BABY ON MONDAY SO SHE WANTED THAT A LITTLE BIT OF MORE TWO DAYS DELIVERY? NO. SO SHE'S DOING WELL BUT SO I'M STEPPING IN I'M AWARE OF MOST OF THE ITEMS THAT SAMANTHA HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WORKING WITH STAN, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THROUGH A FEW OF THE ITEMS OR ALL OF THEM JUST TO GET SOME DIRECTION AS WE GO FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE APPROPRIATE

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THANK YOU. IT'S MINOR. YEAH.

AS FAR AS THE MATERIAL WE CAN DO THAT IN THE SAME WAY GO IT IT'S AMAZING THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AT THIS POINT SO WE'LL JUST MATCH THAT BUT JUST BEING MORE ECONOMICAL OR YOU KNOW JUST STUCCO FINISH IS ACCEPTABLE AND I WAS THINKING OF ANOTHER COST.

YEAH, YEAH IT JUST DEPENDS. I'M JUST THINKING OF THE DUMPSTER BEING FURTHER AWAY AND NOT THINKING OF THE WAY WE'LL LOOK AT IT. YEAH BUT YEAH LET LET ME GO WITH THAT. I THINK IT'LL A BETTER TIE INTO THE BUILDING.

STUCCO IS GOOD BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE STUCCO ELSEWHERE STUCCO CONTRACTORS THAT CAN BE A CHALLENGE AS WELL BEING FROM THE NORTH WE DON'T DO A LOT OF THE STRUGGLE BUT YOU KNOW HOW TO DO BRICKS. BUT I KNOW THAT WE DO BUT I SAY THAT ONLY TWO TO WE'VE DONE SEVERAL SITES NOW IN NEVADA AND IN OTHER SOUTHERN STATES THAT HAVE REQUIRED STUCCO.

WELL, IT'S A BIG JOB. IT'S EASY TO GET SOMEBODY TO COME IN TO DO IT TO DO IT UP THERE AND CLOSURE MIGHT BE A OF A CHALLENGE AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BE AN EASIER PLAY IN I THINK A LOT BETTER MERVYN'S IT IS AN ALUMINUM WROUGHT IRON STYLE FENCE SO DECORATIVE BLACK THOUGH THE HEIGHT TYPICALLY THE PERIMETER I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK THE PERIMETER FENCING IS TYPICALLY FIVE FOOT AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE AND THIS IS FROM MY CHILDREN'S

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YEAH I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING ADDRESSED SO YOU HAVE FOR EXAMPLE YOU HAVE A FIRE AND THEO EVACUATE AND THE 170 SIDE IF THEY EVACUATE THEY'LL EVACUATE INTO A FENCED AREA AND THERE'S NO PLACE TO GET OUT. YEAH, I WILL. I LOOK AT THAT AND ADDRESS IT OFTEN. THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY YOU KNOW. GET THIS BUT YOU GOT ME.

YOU NEED YEAH WE TYPICALLY DO THOSE WITH OUR CHILD TENANTS FROM THAT STANDPOINT IT IS A NOT COURT ON THE INITIAL PLAN REVIEW THAT'S USUALLY A FIRE SAFETY REVIEW AS PART OF THE BUILDING PLAN. HOWEVER SORRY THAT'S A FORMER WIFE OF MINE.

NO THIS IS OUR CORE BUSINESS SO . IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED THAT YOU'RE HAVING NICE SHARP TOPS TO THE FENCE THAT WE DO THAT NO FENCE THE CONFLICT WITH THAT DOOR THERE IS NO PROBLEM AS IN CARING FOR THAT FENCE AND JUST EXTEND THAT CONCRETE PATH THE DORMERS NO ISSUE WE'LL HAVE TO JUST WORK YEAH WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH HOW THAT WEATHER CENTERED ON THE EXISTING THERE'S FIVE WINDOWS BELOW SO MAYBE WE SHIFT THAT WINDOW SCHEDULE TO MAYBE FOUR WINDOWS AND MAKE IT LINE UP OR CENTER THE WINDOW OR THE DOOR AROUND THE FIVE WINDOWS BUT WE'LL LOOK AT IT I UNDERSTAND INTENT TO MAKE IT MORE CONSISTENT OR A BETTER BALANCED OBSERVATION. WELL LIGHTING WE LIKE TO USE ONE APPROPRIATE.

IF THAT'S NOT WE WILL COME UP WITH ANOTHER MATERIAL. SO IF YOU WOULD JUST GIVE US A DIRECTION ON THAT CUT OFF LUMINAIRES WE WILL PROVIDE THE DETAILS TO THE FLOOR OF ANY REASONABLE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD JESUS THAT IS NOT INCLUDED BUT I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE IS ADDRESSED. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW REALLY WE'RE DEALING CODE THAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE MASTER PLAN YEARS AGO WHERE IT WAS APPROVED THE HOLIDAY AND EXCISED FROM A DEAL THAT ADDRESSES PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WAS LOOKING TO GET SOME DIRECTION ON IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OPEN ITEMS THAT I MISTAKENLY OVERLOOKED I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ADDRESS THOSE ITEMS AS PART OF YOUR DISCUSSION TRYING TO JOIN ABOUT YOUR SUGGESTIONS AS THEY MAY YEAH. AGAIN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE IT AT FIRST RIGHT HERE THROUGH . JUST GIVE ME GIVE ME TIME. THIS IS KIND OF ANOTHER LINE THAT YOU GIVE ME TIME TO RECOVER IT GO TO OUR SITE PLAN VERSUS SOME OTHER SITES LIKE MINE. YEAH. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I HAVE AND NOW THAT WE'VE SEEN THE FLOOR AND THE FACT THAT THE ENTRY DROP OFF AREA IS IN WHAT BE LOOKING AT THIS THE TOP RIGHT OR THE DEAD END ELEVATION IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE GOOD TRAFFIC FLOW THE DROP OFF OKAY I KNOW WE'VE HEARD THE CONVERSATION THAT A LOT OF PARENTS ARE GOING TO PARK AND DROP THE KIDS YOU KNOW BUT I'VE SEEN IN THE MAPS PEOPLE DRIVE IN THEY UNLOAD THE CAR THEY KEEP DRIVING IF YOU HAVE THAT DEAD END ON THAT CORNER THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE SO GO &-PR PLAN KATY MY SUGGESTION WILL ALSO ADDRESS THE HOODS AND EVERYTHING IS GOOD. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TAKE YOU A SECOND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY. I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER MOVING EVERY CORNER OF 90 DEGREES SO WHERE THE KITCHEN IS AND THE EXHAUST LET'S MOVE THAT CAN YOU GIVE AMOUNTS OR YOU CAN POINT OR SOMETHING MOVE THAT STRAIGHT UP TO THE FRONT WHERE THE CHICKEN AREAS MOVE THE CHICKEN AREA ALL WAY OVER TO THE OTHER END MOVE A CLASSROOM EITHER STRAIGHT DOWN OR TO THE OTHER CORNER I WOULD SAY STRAIGHT DOWN INTO CORNER HERE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS OUTSIDE SHIFTS SO THAT THEY ALL LOOK SAME. YOUR DROP OFF AREA BECOMES IN THAT PART OF THE PARKING LOT WHERE YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE EXHAUSTED AND YOUR ELECTRIC PANEL ARE NOT ON WHAT WE CONSIDER THE FRONT OR THE CORNER FACING SIDE OF THE BUILDING. YEAH.

STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU LOOK AT DOING THAT BECAUSE THAT WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING EVERYTHING THAT ALSO SO HANDICAPPED ACCESS BECAUSE ONLY YOU CAN HAVE THAT AS A PARKING RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING AND KNOW SO RIGHT THAT'S TRUE SECURITY FOR THE KIDS IN THE PLAY AREA TOO SO

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SPLITTING IT IN THE MIDDLE. YEAH I DON'T I KNOW YOU'RE NOT THE ARCHITECT BUT I'M NOT ADVERSE TO THAT. NO WHERE I'M COMING AT IT FROM WAS I BELIEVE THAT WAS PART OF OUR ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL. THE ARCHITECT MIRRORED THIS NOW BASED ON COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED THE LAYOUT WORKS BETTER ON THAT HE STANDS FOR ACCESSIBILITY TO PARKING AND EVERYTHING ELSE SO LET ME LET ME LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE I DISCUSSED THAT WITH YOUR ARCHITECT ACTUALLY I REVISITED THIS AFTERNOON AND YOU MADE MENTION THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY GIVEN DIRECTION MEASURE THIS FOOTPRINT AS PART OF THAT SO THAT I UNDERSTAND I HAVE NO PROBLEM LOOKING AT THAT THE ONLY THING THAT WAS SAID THE KID THE KITCHEN THEN WOULD FLIP TO THE NORTH SO I WOULD HAVE TO FLIP SIDE OF THAT AND THEN ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE ONLY THING THAT WOULDN'T BE IDENTICAL ON THIS IS YOUR CHECK IN AREA AND YOUR WARMING KITCHEN ARE GOING TO BE ON OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE BUILDING NOW AT THE SAME TIME JUST FLIPPING OUT.

YEAH THAT'S OKAY THAT'S THE ONLY TOUGH PART IS IS OPERATIONALLY BEING EVERYTHING'S FOCUSED ON THAT AND SO IT'S THE EDUCATION SIDE OR THE CLASSROOM SIDE VERSUS STAFFING AND THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. WE DON'T WANT IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING TO BE IN THE FRONT WHICH IS I KNOW GOOD FOR YOU IN THIS CASE BECAUSE IT'S ADDRESSING A MAJOR CORRIDOR FOR US. I JUST THINK IT'LL FLOW A LOT BETTER IF YOU CAN DO THAT.

YEAH. OKAY. LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT IT I JUST HAVING HAVING THE MECHANICAL UNIT ON THE FRONT. YEAH I THINK THAT REACTION THAT YOU'RE HAVING IS A REACTION TO IT BEING ON ONE SIDE INVISIBLE OTHERS GOOD UNDERSTOOD.

I JUST I GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HOW TO LOOK AT IT. ALL RIGHT.

I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE I DON'T THINK THAT JUST ADDING SCREENING OF LIKE A FENCE MATERIAL OR OTHER TYPE OF JUST LIKE A PARAPET WALL OUT OF NOWHERE LIKE I THINK IT WOULD NEED TO BE FULLY INTEGRATED TO THE ARCHITECTURE WHATEVER THAT SCREENING BECOMES SO IT WOULDN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST TACKED ON OR JUST OR A FENCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BUILT INTO. YEAH IT IS AND AS A HOW WOULD YOU SAY IT'S ENCLOSED I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE CATWALK AREA BUT IT'S NOT JUST FENCING SO IT IS SCREENING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BUILDING I AM TRYING TO THINK THEY NEED TO LIKE IT'S PART OF ARCHITECTURE SO NOT THAT IT FEEL LIKE SCREENING IT SHOULD FEEL LIKE THAT.

YEAH THAT ONE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT COMMENT BUT WHAT I'M FOCUSING ON 78 IS I FEEL LIKE IT'S PART OF ROOF OR WALL AND NOT THE ARCHITECTURE. YEAH YEAH I UNDERSTOOD FROM A CODE STANDPOINT AND FROM AN EXHAUSTING IN THAT THAT THAT'S THE CHALLENGE OF IT IS JUST IT'S GOT TO BE KIND OF IN THAT REALM I THINK WOULD THAT BE FIRST OF ALL ON THE OTHER SIDE YOU CAN'T BE ENCLOSED IT STILL HAS TO HAVE ACCESS, IT HAS TO BALANCE. YEAH WELL THAT JUST MIGHT BE WELL YEAH RIGHT SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE GETTING THERE. YEAH I DON'T I DON'T I'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY I'LL LEAVE IT I'LL LEAVE IT WITH THAT ONE. I'M VERY RESOURCEFUL BUT YEAH OPERATIONALLY THAT'S ONLY CHALLENGE THAT I SEE IS OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE BUILDING.

BUT LET ME LOOK AT IT OKAY BUT THAT BEING SAID THEN DO YOU WANT TO WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS BECAUSE IT'S HAD A LOT OF CHANGES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT CAN'T JUST BE FOR APPROVAL.

SO THAT'S A MATTER OF THANK YOU . AND AGAIN AS ALWAYS FOR THE RECORD FRESH AND VERY CLEAR ALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION ITSELF LEGAL COUNSEL YOUR YOUR OPTIONS ARE TO IMPROVE WITH CONDITIONS TO OR TO DENY THOSE ARE YOUR THREE OPTIONS UNDER THE UDR THERE IS THAT FOURTH OPTION Y'ALL UTILIZE AND PASS TO PREVENT UNNECESSARY DELAY AND IS WITH THE CONSENT OF THE APPLICANT TO TABLE IT UNTIL A MEETING AT THE NEXT MEETING OR

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YEAH. DON'T I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET WITH CONDITIONS BUT HEARING YOUR COMMENT AND KNOWING THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A STAFF LEVEL REVIEW I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN OPTION THAT IS SUITABLE OTHER THAN TO TABLE SO SO I WOULD ABSOLUTELY GO FOR THAT YOU. WE HAD TO PROLONG HOW WE WANT TO BE THE WAY BUT NOT 100% AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND LIKE I SAY I I WISH WE HAD ADDRESSED THAT BETTER OR IS THAT WHAT THE EXACT CONCERN WAS BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD HAVE CAME BACK WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT BUT I WILL LOOK AT THAT AND IT WAS OUR PURPOSE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS HOW THAT IS HOW THAT IS SCREENED AND IF GERMAN IF IF IT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT TABLING THE APPLICATION MY REQUEST FROM STAFF LEVEL TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM AND GET SOMETHING BEFORE YOU THAT IS APPROVABLE NEXT TIME IS IF WE COULD LOOK AT THE ITEMS THAT ARE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKE A CLEAR OF OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU SEE AS CHALLENGES BEYOND THOSE ANY THAT I CAN ENSURE THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING IT TOGETHER AS A TEAM WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK BEFORE YOU VERY SUCCESSFULLY SO FOR THE LANDSCAPING THE ONLY OTHER ITEM THAT I HEARD IS A CONCERN ON OTHERS I GUESS A LOOSE ONE THERE BUT THE PLANTINGS AT CONNECTION NEAR THAT HANDICAPPED PARKING SPOT ARE NARROW COKEY AND POISON AND THAT'S KATHLEEN'S PHRASING OF IT OF COURSE NEVER. BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS HEARING FROM THERE IS TO FIND A WAY TO HANDICAP TO ENSURE THAT THAT BUFFER IS INCREASED IF THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AT THAT POINT REMAINS IN THE SAME LOCATION IF IT MOVES THEN THE BUFFER WOULD BE INCREASED BECAUSE THE SIDEWALK WOULD DISAPPEAR, PLANTS WOULD BE ADDED IN THAT SPACE. IS THAT I WOULD SUGGEST RECONSIDERING YOUR PLANT SELECTION YOU AN EXAM THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT CONVERSATION THAT WAS GIVEN I WOULD JUST LOOK AT THAT AND WHERE YOU GOT KIDS NOT LOCATED THOSE ARE PERFECTLY FINE SELECTIONS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EDUCATION I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ISLANDS OF THE TREES AND KATIE DO THEY NEED TO HAVE THOSE PLANTED WITH ANYTHING THAT TREES AND THAT'S JUST THE MULCH BIRDS WHERE THE LIGHT POLES ARE AND THE TREES ARE IN THE ISLANDS THEY CAN THEY CAN BE MOST BEDS THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE PLANTED THE TREES HAVE TO BE PART OF THE SHRUBS UNDERNEATH HER. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO THERE'S NOT NEEDS TO BE STABILIZED SO THE PINES ARE MULCH WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE THING. RIVER ROCK IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE GROUND SOLUTION FOR THE LOWCOUNTRY. I CONCUR WITH THAT AND SPEAKING OF STABILIZATION THERE I STILL HAVE THAT CYPRESS HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

I HAVE OTHER IDEAS AROUND HERE I, I SEE OF WHITE ROCK WHICH IS A LOT ROCK OKAY SO ANYWAY SO GOOD AND STABLE AND STABILIZATION UPON THE DETENTION AREA IS THAT BEING ADDRESSED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN? SO IT'S WITH THE CIVIL AND THEY'RE DOING SOME KIND OF SEATING IN THAT. OKAY.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THERE'S A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED. THERE IS A LIVE OAK THAT'S REALLY CLOSE TO THE EAST CORNER IS WHERE SINCE WE'RE ON A 45 OR A NUMBER 21 THERE'S A 11 INCH LIVE OAK, 18 INCH PINE AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO ALL OF THOSE. SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST LOOKING AT RELOOKING AT YOUR OVERSTORY TREES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT LIKE EIGHT FEET FROM ANOTHER EXISTING OVERSTORY TREE.

OH UNDERSTOOD. AND I THINK THERE MAY BEEN ANOTHER INCIDENT I SAW WHERE IT WASN'T AGAIN REALLY CLOSE TO COMPLETING THAT PARTICULAR OAK .

I THINK I SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW I WOULD SUGGEST PUTTING IT CLOSER YOUR OPEN FIELD AREA SO THAT YOU PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE SHADE FOR THE CASE.

IT TALKED ABOUT VERY YOU KNOW STRIP DOWN FROM THE PLAYGROUND AS IT COMES OUT OF THE BUILDING AND CAN COME STRAIGHT DOWN RIGHT BY THE PROPERTY FOR THE FIRE YEAH YEAH YEAH I.

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YEAH THERE YOU NEED TO RECONCILE THOSE SIZES. SURE I ASSUME THAT'LL BE AT OUR EXPENSE FROM A STANDPOINT OF DURING THE INSPECTION WE'D GO BASED ON SIZE NOT GALLON SIZE RIGHT SO YEAH WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT AND THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE DOE AND THERE IS MINIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENT THERE'S NOT A GALLON SIZE REQUIREMENT OF ANY OF THOSE SO THANK YOU WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT AT CFC YOU CAN DO MY FINAL HIGHWAY QUARTER INSPECTION ON THE ROAD OKAY TAKE CARE OF THE LANDSCAPE ITEMS LIKE THE YES YOU CAN ALWAYS COME BACK OH I THINK I HAD A WAITING COMMENT. OH 3000 KELVIN YOU HAVE IT HAS OPTIONS HERE ON THE LEFT SIDE ON THAT SHE IT'S JUST THAT NONE OF THEM ARE LISTED AND SO ONCE YOU START GETTING A LITTLE HIGHER I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU START GETTING A POOR CASE WELL I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT FIXTURE AND PROVIDED IT WAS ONE SPECIFIC FIXTURE I JUST WANT TO BE WARM YEAH SO LET'S FINISH GOING DOWN THAT LIST YOU CAN GET IN SO WE'VE GOT THE LANDSCAPE ITEMS CARE AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE SECTION ON THAT KATIE ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE DIRECTION? OKAY SO THEN FOR THE ARCHITECTURE EXITS FROM FENCED AREAS YEP THERE IS THERE AND THEN AND AGAIN CONSIDER THE CONCERN OF THE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT GETTING THE HEARD AND ALL THAT THE OTHER SIDE YEAH THERE'S PRINT ADDRESS I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS FALLS UNDER ARCHITECTURE I THINK IT DOES BUT ADDRESS THE DEAD END DROP OFF FROM YEAH. THE FACT THAT YOUR KIDS ARE COMING HERE NOW THEY REALLY SHOULD BE COMING HERE YEAH I WILL LOOK THAT THE ONE THING AND I KNOW THEY NOT RESONATE BUT IT IS THEIR REQUIREMENT THAT A PARENT CHECK THEM AND THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY TO DROP ANYONE OFF SO LIKE THEY PHYSICALLY HAVE TO BE ESCORTED INSIDE CHECKED AND THEIR CHILDREN READING BUT I UNDERSTAND FROM CIRCULATION STANDPOINT AND FROM A FROM A PARTNER STANDPOINT SO WE WILL ADDRESS IT BUT THERE WON'T BE ANY CURB STOP FROM THAT STANDPOINT. WHAT'S THAT IS IT GOING TO BE A TENANT SAFE LIKE THIS IS THE SCHOOL I DON'T, I THINK IT'S FRANCHISED OR I MEAN IT'S CORPORATE WITH BIG BLUE MARBLE YEAH OKAY WELL DOES IT AT SOME POINT BUILDINGS LIVE ON FOR LONGER SOMETIMES ON THE ENTITIES UNDERSTOOD UNDERSTOOD WELL AND I'VE I'VE SEEN A PAIR OF PARENTS COME IN ONE STAYS BEHIND THE WHEEL WHILE THE OTHER TAKES THEM AND IF YOU HAVE TWO OF THEM AND BACKING UP ALL OTHER PEOPLE ARE TRYING PULL IN AND SURE THERE WAS THERE WAS AN ITERATION OF THIS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS WHERE IT WAS FLIPPED WAS AT THE TIME THAT WE LOOKED AT THE FLIPPED THERE WAS NOT ACTUALLY A SITE PLAN THAT EXISTED. IT WAS LIKE A HALF SITE PLAN AND SO THE PLAN DIDN'T REFLECT THE ELEVATIONS AND SO I THINK PROBABLY WAS SOME MISCOMMUNICATION AND THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE MARKETING WELL SOMETHING HAS TO BE FLIPPED BUT I THINK THAT IT AND THAT'S THAT'S I THINK THERE WAS A CHANGE WITH THE PARKING THE DRIVEWAY LOCATION AS WELL SO WE WILL LOOK AT THAT. SO BACK TO YOU GOING BACK JUST IN A WAS THE NUMBER TWO ARCHITECTURE MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL AFTER THE DUMPSTER YOU'RE GOING TO CLARITY FOR THE ELECTRIC METER IS SEPARATE FROM THE TRANSFORMER SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS WITH LANDSCAPE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE YOUR GUARANTEE ON THE ARCHITECTURE DON'T WANT THAT FACING UNCERTAINTY OKAY BREAK ON THE DUMPSTER THE OR OPERATION OF THE DISTURBANCE THAT'S AN EASY FIX THE METAL THINGS JUST INCLUDE THAT MATERIAL WITHIN THIS METAL AND SURE THE HEIGHT BECAUSE I NOTICED ON THAT DETAIL IT DIDN'T SHOW THE HEIGHT IT WILL BE IDENTIFIED ALL THE WAY THROUGH CLEARLY I

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YEAH OR THAT'S ADDRESSED TO THE DORMERS JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALIGN WITH SOMETHING.

YEP. AND ARE APPROPRIATE IN SCALE AND THEN WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE FRONT ELEVATION I THINK WITH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT CHANGES THAT WILL PROBABLY IMPROVE AND SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT AND. THE OTHER ARCHITECTURE ITEMS. YES. SO YOU HAVE A 212 DORMER OUR MINIMUM ROOF IS FOUR ANGLE SO THE FUNDAMENTAL A 412 MAIN MASS ROOF WILL NOT WORK WITH A FOUR TALL DORMER SO SOMETHING WITH THAT IS GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE I THINK GIVEN THE CURRENT DESIGN THE DORMERS I THINK WOULD BE REQUIRED IN TERMS OF BREAKING UP LONG EXPANSES OF UNBROKEN ROOF AND WALL MOUNTS. SO KIND OF THINKING THROUGH THAT ALSO JUST AS AN A 412 MAIN MASS IS NOT A PARTICULARLY LOW COUNTRY VERNACULAR TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE ANYWAY SO I THINK IT MIGHT HELP YOU IF YOU COULD MAKE LIKE A 612 OR SOMETHING WORK FOR THE MAIN ROOF SO THAT YOU COULD GET THE VERTICAL DORMER TO FIT WITHIN THAT ROOF.

ADDITIONALLY I THINK THAT THE EXTRA BLANK AREAS TO THE MIDDLE ON THE 170 ELEVATION TO ME THAT STILL FEELS WE HAVE SOME UNARTICULATED LARGE EXPANSES OF SITING.

ANDREW AND I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THAT BROKEN UP MORE SIMILARLY TO THE OR IN NORTH ELEVATION. I THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF AN ASSERTION BRINGING UP WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE NORTH BUT IT DOESN'T QUITE TRANSLATE ONTO THAT SOUTHERN ELEVATION WHICH REPRESENTS THE PRIMARY VIEW ADDING ANOTHER REVERSE CABLE IN THAT OFFSETTING THOSE TWO DORMERS WOULD BE IT WOULD BE THAT WOULD HOWEVER YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT WHATEVER PENETRATION YOU WANT TO DO BUT I THINK I WOULD BE I THINK WE WOULD TRY TO LOOK AT ELEVATION AS IF THIS YES. THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE. YEAH.

BOTH SIDES AND AND KIND OF I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE UTILITY SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL CHANGE WITH THAT BUT THE BLANK PANEL DOORS FACING 170 DOES FEEL LIKE A BACK ENTRANCE NOT THE FRONT PHASE OF THE FACADE. SO IF YOU GET THAT INSIDE COURT WOULD THAT BE ALLOWED ON THE STREET THE IN THE LATER NOTES LATER ON THE NEW ENTRANCE YES THANK SORRY INSIDE ELEVATION OKAY. IT WOULD BE ALLOWED THERE BECAUSE THAT MAY BE ABLE TO FLIP WHEN WE'RE REARRANGING THE ENTRYWAY OR EXTENSION HERE. YEAH PUT SOMETHING UP THERE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO JUST DON'T REMOVE THE DOOR NECESSARILY SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF PENETRATION SO IT'S NOT A BLANK WALL. YES.

THAT IS STILL BEHIND. YES. SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN THERE JUST YEAH AND ONE MORE THING WOKE COUPLE SORRY I GOT THE DOORS I THINK IF THE 170 ELEVATION THEY CAN ALL BE PARTIALLY OR FULLY BUT NOT NECESSARILY A COMBINATION OF THE TWO JUST TAKE ONE OF THE DOOR TYPES IT'S A ROUGH 170 BUT AND HAVE LIGHT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE THAT'S GREAT OKAY SO THE FINGERPRINTS JUST YES A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING YOU HAVE THREE LIGHTS, A WHOLE WELL CHILDREN'S FINGERPRINTS. YES.

RIGHT. AND LAST THING WAS JUST THE AND THESE ARE ACCEPTABLE BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT A MOUNTAIN PATTERN LIKE THREE SQUARE OR VERTICALLY ORIENTED GLASS JUST BECAUSE THAT IS A LOW COUNTRY ARCHITECTURAL PRINCIPLE SO THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL PANE OF GLASS IS SQUARE OR VERTICALLY ORIENTED RATHER THAN HORIZONTAL.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO DO. BUT AS WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT PENETRATION, IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT A TWO WIDE OR YOU KNOW A TWO LINE INSTEAD OF THE FOUR LAY ON THOSE OVERHANGS THAT WOULD MEAN THAT INTENT AS AN OPTION JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER TAKING OUT THE MIDDLE PIECES OF THE HORIZONTAL MOUNTAIN.

YEAH CERTAINLY THAT LOOK FOR THE HORIZONTAL AND THEN SUCH EXACT PROPORTION VERTICAL PROPORTIONS OKAY IS TYPICALLY WHAT WE LOOK FOR WHICH AS YOU AS YOU LOOK AT THE OF THAT YOU MIGHT MAKE MORE BUT AGAIN ANYONE ELSE HAVE OTHER ARCHITECTURAL COMMENTS THAT THEY CAN GUIDANCE ON WHAT I MEAN AN AVERAGE FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL CATEGORY AND THEN WE HAVE THE LIGHTING AND THE LCD I THINK WE USUALLY APPROVE THAT ONE ANYWAY.

SO YOU GOING AND THEN YOU WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE SUMMATION FOR THE LUMINARIES THE LIGHT POLES THAT YOU WILL RELOCATE THEM ARE VERTICAL CONCEPTS AND THERE ARE TWO PLANS TRY TO UTILIZE AS WELL TO SHOW THEM WHEREVER THEY GO FIRST THEN ALL THE OTHER

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SO WITH REGARD TO SIGNAGE FOR RENTS YOU DO NOT WANT THOSE. NOW YOU'RE JUST INDICATING THAT THE STANDARDS WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY THE THE TENANT WOULD WOULD DO THOSE ON THEIR OWN THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING MY BLANKET COMMENT BECAUSE THE ONE TIME IT DOESN'T EXIST IN HERE IT SHOWS UP AS OF THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO CLAIM THAT IT WAS ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HIM TO CONSIDER? MANAGER IF I MAY COMMISSIONER DUNCAN BROUGHT UP AN ISSUE ABOUT THE SIDEWALK AND LOOKING AT A PULLED UP THE OCTOBER DATE WAS OCTOBER 2022 PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN DURING THE PLANNING IT DID NOT SHOW THAT SIDEWALK ON EVERY PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THAT LOCATION. SO WHETHER YOU HAD ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS I DON'T HAVE I'M GLAD THAT THERE WAS AN IDEA COMPLIANT GLAD IT DOESN'T CROSS THE ROAD THAT'S THAT'S FINE MY ONLY ISSUE IS THAT IF THERE IS A BUFFER ALONG MILL CREEK THAT IT IS THAT WE MADE TO MEET THAT SO THAT MAY MEAN THEY HAVE TO LOSE A PARKING SPOT TO SHIP THAT ALL OVER TO MEET THAT BUFFER REQUIREMENT IF THEY IF THEY INTEND TO KEEP IT THERE. ALTERNATIVELY AGAIN IF THEY DO THE ROTATION OF THE BUILDING 90 DEGREES THEN THEY CAN AT THE DRIVE YEAH ELIMINATE THAT EXTRA STEP FOUR BACK AND THEN IT WON'T BE A PROBLEM SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW YOU DO THE ARCHITECTURE AND JUST THINK ABOUT ALL THAT GOES TOGETHER. YEAH THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT THAT I DID YOU KNOW I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK THROUGH THE LAYOUT OF THE INTERIORS GOING THROUGH IT BECAUSE THOSE CLASSROOMS WILL THEN HAVE TO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE ON THAT ON THAT WEST SIDE SO I'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT BECAUSE WILL HAVE THAT SAME A SIMILAR POINT IF YOU WILL BACK IN 2016 THERE RIGHT THERE AS IT COMES AROUND THAT SAME PINCH POINT ON THE SOUTH SIDE BECAUSE I HAVE TO FENCE BECAUSE THOSE WILL NOW BECOME CLASSROOMS ON THAT FAR AND INSTEAD OF THE UTILITY AREA THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO REMOVE SOME OF THE OTHER I CAN BORROW SOME OF THAT THROUGH IT'LL PROBABLY END UP LOOKING TO THIS SO I'LL DO THE BEST I CAN AND I'LL FIGURE IT OUT. YOU KNOW THAT I WAS LOOKING AT THAT AGAIN THE THE ORDER OF EVENTS IS COMING OUT UNDER THE COVERED AREA THE ONES THAT DESIGN THE COVERED FORGE AREA IS THAT FENCE CAN WE MOVE IT AWAY FROM THAT BEING BOUGHT. YEAH I JUST THINK THAT IS ON TOP OF THAT. THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW IT'S DONE AND SHOWN QUARTERLY ON THIS PLAN. HOW TALL IS THE FENCE THAT ENCLOSING WE IT IS TYPICALLY FOUR FOOT AND THAT SHOULD PUT IT OVER TALLER THESE UNITS BUT NOT FOR DEPENDING ON THE UNIT THEY'RE USUALLY 30 OR 36 INCH DEPENDING AND IF YOU MOVE THAT TO THE MILITARY BOULEVARD SIDE WE JUST WERE RIGHT RIGHT HERE MAKE SURE SCREEN AND SO YOU KNOW YOU CAN PLAY A OR JUST SOMETHING YEAH SCREEN IT VEGETATION OR YEAH VEGETATION IS EASIEST BUT SOMETIMES SCREEN SOME COMMUNITIES WILL LIKE THE SCREEN LOW EFFECT BUT AGAIN I WILL COME UP WITH SOMETHING APPROPRIATE I PROMISE AND YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL AND ASK KATIE FOR HER GUIDANCE 100% SHE SHE I THINK SHE KNOWS WHAT WE'RE SAYING. SHE'S GOING TO GET USED TO THE CALLING NOW THAT WE HAD IT EASY WITH SAMANTHA NOT A LOT OF PTO SAVED UP.

IT WAS NICE STANDARDS. OKAY. SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO DO A RECOMMENDATION TO TABLE OR IS IT JUST LIKE I MENTIONED I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE WITH SO THE CONSIDERATION THAT THE DEVELOPER WORK WITH STAFF TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON BAYARD OKAY WHAT DID YOU WANT TO SAY? ALL RIGHT. I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD A TABLE OR TO A MEETING SPECIFIC OR NOT WE LIKE ALL BECAUSE IT DECIDE WHERE TO EAT AS WELL UNDERSTOOD THANK YOU FOR READING HIS INFORMATION SO THAT I DON'T CONSIDER THE ONE SHE IS ENJOYING I THINK YOU CAN SHE

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WELL I HAVE TO RUN THE WHOLE PROGRAM. I THINK IT'S CLOSE.

SAY CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL.

I WILL FOR SURE. I'LL BE PERFECTLY WILLING TO. THANK YOU.

GIVE ME A LIFT WHEN YOU FEEL SAFE, YOU KNOW. THANK YOU.

[X.6. Refuel (Certificate of Appropriateness - Highway Corridor Overlay)]

ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL TRY IT. WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

OKAY. YOU. SO ITEM NUMBER SIX IS THE REVIEW ALL TOGETHER APPROPRIATE ? AS FOR HOW ECUADOR OVER NINE CERT APPROPRIATE THAT'S? CORRECT THE LANDSCAPE MINING AND ARCHITECTURE FOR REFUELING CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS LOCATED ON SOUTH CAROLINA WAY 46 ACROSS FROM THE MAIN RIVER CROSSING INTERSECTION. KATIE HI. HI.

GOOD EVENING. THE APPLICATION AND PROCUREMENT DIRECTIVES AND WORK DESIGN IN MY NAME CHANGES ALL THE TIME AND CHANGE ONE TIME I JUST WISH COULD BE LONGER I THAT NAME THE APPLICATION IS FOR A REFILL STORE AT GAS STATION. IT IS LOCATED ALONG HIGHWAY 46 WHICH IS IN THE MAIN RIVER CROSSING INTERSECT AND IT IS IN THE NEW RIVERSIDE BEAUTY WITHIN THE NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE PLAN IS THAT YOU RIVERSIDE VILLAGE AREA WE'VE A FEW APPLICATIONS BEFORE IN THIS AREA THIS APPLICATION IS YOU CAN SEE HOW IT 46 IS AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN THE EAST PARK PARKWAY COMMENTS IS TOWARDS THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN THE BACK OF THE SCREEN IS THE RIVERSIDE VILLAGE WAY AND THEN THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS ON THE LEFT HAND OF YOUR SCREEN. I HAVE PROVIDED THE ELEVATIONS HERE FOR YOU.

THANK YOU FOR LABELING THE DIRECTION OF THE STREET AS WELL.

IT'S SO MUCH EASIER FOR ME WHEN I'M TALKING THROUGH ALL OF YOU SO THE STARTING OF THE REAR ELEVATION WHICH IS THE RIVERSIDE VILLAGE WAY DOES INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION AND FOR THE SCREEN THE WEST FACING ELEVATION IS FACING TOWARDS SHADING HERE TOWARDS THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THE LEFT ELEVATION IS THIS ONE HERE FACES TOWARDS PARK SIDE COMMENTS AND THEN THE FRONT ELEVATION FACES TOWARDS HIGHWAY 46. IN FRONT OF THIS WILL BE THE FUELING PUMPS AND THEN THE BUFFER AND THEN THE HIGHWAY. SO IT IS THAT BACK ON THE ROAD QUITE A WAYS AND I WANT TO FOCUS AT THAT AGAIN. SO THIS IS FRONT WHICH IS THE 46 FUELING CAN BE BUMPER HALF MORE UPPER 46 SO IT IS QUITE A WAYS BACK BUT IT IS ALL WITHIN THE HEAVY WATER WATER.

THESE ARE THE PERSPECTIVES THAT WERE PROVIDED FROM THE APPLICANT THIS THE CAR WASH BUILDING HERE AS WELL AS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. SO THE WAY THAT I SET UP MY SLIDE SHOW THE ELEVATION FOR THE CAR WASH AND EXAMPLES CLOSURE ON THE STREET AND THE PERSPECTIVES HERE SO THIS FACES TOWARDS THE INTERIOR ROAD AND THIS FACES TOWARDS THE EXTERIOR ROAD WHICH IS HIGHWAY 46. SO THIS IS YOUR FRONT ELEVATION OF THE GARAGE AND THE RIGHT AND LEFT ELEVATIONS HERE. SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE THEN THIS THE SIDE WITH ALL THE WINDOWS HERE FACING TOWARDS HIGHWAY 46 THE FRONT THE REAR IS A MORE SERVICE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN THE FRONT END FOR LEFT AND RIGHT OF THAT THE COLORS MATERIAL AND GAS CANOPY SO THE GAS CAN BE AS PROPOSED HERE WITH THE CURVED ROOF AND IT HAS ONE SET OF PROBLEMS THAT RUN ALONG THE LENGTH OF THE FRONT AREA OF THE ORIGINAL THE MATERIALS AND COLORS ARE LOCATED UP HERE. THE MATERIALS AND COLORS WERE ALL THINGS DID MEET THE HEAVY BORDER STANDARD SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE FROSTED GLASS THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF SPACE IN A IN A CONVENIENCE STORE LIKE THIS.

THEY CAN'T HAVE TRUE WINDOWS NECESSARILY ON ALL OF THIS BUT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL ADMINISTRATION THIS IS THE EXAMPLE THAT THEY PROVIDED THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY I BELIEVE IS THE ONE THAT IS LOCATED IN NEWPORT AS YOU HEAD TOWARDS FLORAL BAY WHICH IS I CAN'T REMEMBER ANY OF US ARE GOING TO CHARGE GATEWAY IS A GATEWAY THAT SEEMS SO EASY TO REMEMBER AND THEN THIS IS EXAMPLE OF THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE THIS IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A BLOCK FROM GOOGLE STREET VIEWS FROM SAME AREA HOWEVER THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED HOURS IS NOT DOUBLE BECAUSE IT IS A SINGLE ROW OF VIEWING NOT A DOUBLE ROW OF FEELING. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE ON THE ESTATE PLAN IT HAS THE TWO

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ALL OF THESE HAVE MET THE STANDARDS FOR THE LIGHTING AND THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB MAKING SURE THAT AREA IS BEING LIMITED BY SIGHT AND LIGHTING FOR PUBLIC USE WHICH IMPACTS THE CUMULATIVE AVERAGES OF THE SPECIFIC CUMULATIVE AREAS PROVIDED IN THE TABLE HAVE INFORMATION FROM THE CALCULATION SUMMARY TABLES HOWEVER THEY ARE ONLY A COUPLE OF LITTLE TINY BUILDING LIGHTS RIGHT HERE THE OF IT HAS BEEN PUT IN FOR THIS SO IT IS ALL COVERED UNDER AND THE ONES THAT ARE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS ARE THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY WILL GET THEY DID INDICATE THAT THINGS THAT GREATLY MAKES LIFE EASIER ON THESE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN HERE AS YOU CAN SEE AGAIN HIGHWAY 46 IS AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN PARK SIDE COMMONS IS AT THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN THE LEFT SIDE IS A COMMERCIAL LIGHT ADJACENT TO IT AND THEN THE LEFT IS AT THE BOTTOM HERE VIEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE ROAD I INCLUDED THE PLANTING SCHEDULE HERE WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE IT IS IN THE TIMING QUARTER FOR HAVING 46 AND THEN IT HAS THE SAME REVIEW CRITERIA. HOWEVER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SUNSET THE MASTER PLAN SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH IS ANOTHER AGREEMENT AND ANY OTHER PLANS THAT ARE APPLICABLE DO APPLY TO THIS. THE ARTICLE BY DESIGN DO NOT APPLY TO IT EXCEPT FOR IN THE CASE OF STORMWATER WHICH IS PART OF THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED AS PART OF THE LOGO SO THAT PORTION OF IT DOES APPLY TO THE REST IS CALLED BEAUTY SO AND IN THE APPLICATION AND JUST THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE ALLEGATIONS MADE BY THE APPLICANT APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR CONTRACT THE APPLICANT CONSENT FOUND THAT THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED OR IT WILL MEET THOSE CONDITIONS BUT OTHERWISE IT MEETS THE CONDITIONS OF APPLICATION THE BOARD MAY BE THE SAME AS WE APPROACHED IT ON THE LAST APPLICATION WHERE YOU GO THROUGH ALL OR DETERMINE THE LANDSCAPE ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE LANDSCAPE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS TO CREATE THE EIGHT FOOT FOUNDATION PUMP BUFFER ALONG THE EAST SIDE SO THAT IT'S JUST AREA HERE AND THE OTHER AREAS. WELL THIS LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A GIANT SIDEWALK HERE IT IS A GIANT SIDEWALK BUT IT'S ALL UNDER A ROOF AND SO IT IS PART OF A COLONNADE OR FLAT PORCH THAT IS BEING INSTALLED ON THE FRONT HERE. SO THIS AREA HERE THAT HAS BEEN THERE THE LINES IS GOING TO BE THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

THIS SITE HAS THE FOUNDATION IS HERE AND THEN IT'S SAT HERE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A SMALL SITE WHICH IS STILL CLOSE TO THE PEOPLE NOT QUITE THERE. IT DOES MEET THE FOUNDATION BASIC REQUIREMENTS AND THE SECOND ONE IS THAT THERE IS A WASHINGTON HIGH COURT JUST ONE OF THEM GUYS THAT IS NOT THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR SIZE BECAUSE IT IS BEING USED AS A LANDSCAPE ISLAND TREE. IT IS THIS ONE RIGHT HERE SO THAT NEEDS TO BE INCREASED IN SIZE TO BE AT LEAST A TWO INCH CALIBER AND IF IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THAT SINGLE FOGHORN THEY CAN PROPOSE A DIFFERENT BROAD STORY OR LEAVE TREE IN THAT LANDSCAPE ISLAND TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENT. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE PROPANE AND ICE SCREENING AREAS YOU CAN SEE THERE IT'S AN OUTDOOR COOLERS THAT ARE LOCATED RIGHT HERE AND THERE'S A PROPANE STORAGE THAT IS LOCATED HERE. THEY'VE INDICATED THAT GOING TO BE THE MANUFACTURERS SCREENING FOR THE PROPANE. WE JUST NEED TO SEE WHAT ADDITIONAL SCREENING IS. IS THERE THE METAL CAGE IS A MESH FENCING MANUALLY SCREENING THAT FROM HIGHWAY 46 SO WHETHER IT'S A NEW WALL OR SOME OTHER DESIGN SOLUTION TO PREVENT THAT FROM BEING FIRST THING THAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU ARE IN THE AREA THERE THE NEXT ITEM IS THE TWO AND 12 ROOF AS WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE LAST APPLICATION A FOUR AND 12 IS THE FIRST PITCH THAT IS CONSIDERED A PITCHED ROOF BY THE STANDARDS FROM THE ZBA SO 93 IS HERE IS AT A TWO AND A HALF PITCH AND SO IT NEEDS TO BE INCREASED TO MEET THAT STANDARD.

THE THIRD ITEM IS A DETERMINATION THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE CURVED GOING TO BE THE VIDEO SO ALLOWS FOR THE FOUR PITCHED ROOFS FOR INFILL OR GREATER AND ENCOURAGE

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WE DID A SEARCH ON BOTH OF THE NAMES OUR APPLICATIONS HERE SO I WAS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT AS WELL. THANK YOU. I THINK DALIA AND TOM GRANDSTANDING ACTUALLY JUST SOLVED THE PROBLEM THINK GRANDKID ISSUE WOULD SOLVE IT SO I WAS GOING TO LET GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR FELT YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF IS THEY OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS FOR KATIE BEFORE WE DO THAT I WAS HAPPY WITH THE ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT ME TO DIRECT? YES, I WILL LET YOU THEM OUT.

OKAY. THANK YOU JULIE FROM I'M RYAN ROBINSON WITH REFUEL OPERATING COMPANY APPRECIATES YOUR VIEWS AND OUR APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WE'RE INCREDIBLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT THINK THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD. YOU JUST MEET ALL THE APPLICANTS THAT COME BEFORE YOU PROBABLY SAY THAT BUT THIS IS A DESIGN FOR US THAT WE PUT OUR HEART AND SOUL INTO AND DEFINITELY HAS THAT LOWCOUNTRY FEEL.

WE CALL IT OUR LITTLE COUNTRY BUILDING WE THINK SOMETHING AT THE TOWN BLOCK AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT. SO I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND WALK THROUGH A COUPLE OF THE CONDITIONS THIS EVENING IF I MAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK FIRST AT THE LET'S SEE HERE FOR THE SIDE TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.

SECTION ONE IS THE LANDSCAPING THERE'S A COMMENT ON THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE BUFFER FOR THE PIECE SO REFILLS WORKS AND ELIMINATED OF THE PATIO ON THE FAR CORNER OF THE BUILDING KATIE CAN SHOW THAT ON THE SCREEN HERE IT'S THE TOP CORNER TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS SET BACK THERE OFF THE PARKSIDE COMMENTS. YEP SO WE MEET THE EIGHT FOOT AS REQUESTED SO WE WORK WITH STAFF TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT REQUIREMENTS.

ADDITIONALLY THE THERE WAS A COMMENT AND A CONDITION RELATED TO THE FOOT BUFFER REQUIREMENT ALONG WITH THE CAR WASH ELEVATION THE BUILDING AND SHE'S SHOWN WITH THE MOUSE HERE SITE DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS FOR THIS WITH THE PROPERTY LINE BEING RIGHT RIGHT THERE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CAR WASH WITH OUR REQUIRED STACK FOR CAR WASH THE CAR WASH DEPTH AND THEN THE DRIVE BY ALL THE PARKING THE SIDEWALK WE COULDN'T FIND THE EXTRA THE EXTERNAL FOOT IS THERE TO MEET EIGHT FOOT SO WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF. WHAT WE PROPOSE THERE ON THE BUILDING IS A LANDSCAPING LATTICE FEATURE ON THE WALL OF THE BUILDING WITH A BUFFER IS NOT MET AND WE DONE WHAT WE CAN TO TRY TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE CODE AS FAR AS A LANDSCAPE BUFFER GOES THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO WE HOPE THAT SOMETHING ELSE ACCEPTABLE ON THE PROJECT CONTINUING THROUGHOUT THE LANDSCAPE HERE THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT INCREASING THE CALIBER OF TREES WE CAN PUT A TREE SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE MORE THAN INCLINED TO DO THAT SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE HAPPY EXCEPT THIS IS THIS FROM CHARLES IT'S LOCATED RIGHT HERE. YES THAT'S YEP THAT'S CORRECT YES. THIS IS A CHALLENGE AND THIS A CHALLENGE IT IS YES.

WE'VE GOT IT ON BOTH SIDES. THAT'S RIGHT. SO HOW BIG IS THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER? IS THERE NO LANDSCAPE INSIDE? VERY FEW EXITS.

I MEAN BECAUSE I HAVE A SIMPLE SOLUTION FOR YOU MAKE THE BUILDING SMALLER AND YOU CAN DO THE AP. HOW BIG IS THAT? BUT FOR NOW THE REASON THIS IS THREE FEET ACROSS FROM HERE TO HERE IS THREE FEET. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND AND MAYBE

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SO CAN CAN SHOW THE MOUSE THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER OF THE PATIO, THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING RIGHT THERE AND YOU GO BACK TO THIS GO BACK TO THE SAME BY SO PLEASE I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD LET ME DRIVE I GO IT WOULD BE THE BOTTOM RIGHT HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE THE BUILDING IT WOULD BE THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER OF THAT PATIO. I THINK ON THAT I THINK YOU TAKE ANOTHER RIGHT AND YOU DON'T YOU KNOW YOUR DIRECTION. SO IT'S IT'S THIS CORNER HERE.

THE PATIO ITSELF ORIGINALLY EXTENDED FURTHER SOUTH KIND OF ISN'T REFLECTING WITH THE MOUSE HERE FROM A STATIC STANDPOINT WASN'T A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO US WE PULLED THAT UP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO MEET THAT THERE IS THE REQUIRED EIGHT FOOT WHICH IS RIGHT HERE THIS SEPARATION APARTMENT IS WHERE YOU THE BUFFER APARTMENT AT EIGHT FEET AND THE OTHER COMMENT I HAD AND IT WAS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING ON THE CARWASH SIDE THE CONCERN WE HAVE IS HOW TIGHT THE PROPERTY LINE IS HERE WITH THE PROPERTY. SO WE DO HAVE A REQUIRED VIEWING SET UP FOR OUR THE VEHICLE COILS AND THE CONCRETE FOR LICENSE PLATE READERS IS A CERTAIN DISTANCE WE HAVE TO HAVE FOR THE CUEING AND WE'RE AT THAT MINIMUM DISTANCE WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW THERE'S A CONTINUOUS ARM THAT'S RIGHT HERE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE RADIUS. SO AS YOU AS YOU COME THROUGH HERE YOU CAN BASICALLY FIT TWO CARS IN OUR CONTROL POD SCREEN WHERE YOU DO YOUR CAR WASH IS RIGHT HERE.

YOU OPEN YOUR CAR WASH AND YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY INTO THIS DRIVE RIGHT HERE SO FROM A CUING STANDPOINT FROM THE WITH THE DRIVE FOR THAT WHICH IS THE COAT THE CAR WASH THE WIDTH OF THE AISLE HERE, THE DEPTH OF THE PARKING STALL THERE ARE GOODS SIDE WHEREAS WE'RE AT THREE FEET SO WE'RE AS TIGHT AS WE CAN BE WITHOUT REDUCING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE DOOR.

KATIE DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE FOUNDATION AROUND THE CARWASH IS REQUIRED ON THE FRONT AND SIDE ELEVATIONS THE REAR DOES NOT REQUIRE OR AREAS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY SERVICED BY SERVICE ACCESS OR THERE'S ANOTHER BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY ALL OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE THE UTILITY SUCH SERVICE AREA AS IT IS AS LONG AS IT'S ON THE FRONT ELEVATION IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT SORRY I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF THIS THAT WELL I'M NOT SO THERE'S THAT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF CHARLES I'M HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS I'M HAVING A PROBLEM WITH CARS BACKING UP AS CARS ARE COMING JUST OUT OF THE CAR WASH.

I'M HAVING A PROBLEM THAT THERE'S NOT A V FOUNDATION ALONG THAT FRONT EDGE OF THE CAR WASH AS IT PERTAINS TO FACING THE PARKING LOT. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEING THREE FEET OF FOUNDATION PLANTING WHICH IS NOWHERE CLOSE TO EIGHT FEET ON THAT SIDE.

SO I'M THERE I UNDERSTAND THE TIGHTNESS OF THAT. ABSOLUTELY.

AND I THAT'S AN UNCOMFORTABLE PLACE FOR YOU TO BE BECAUSE THAT MEANS MAJORLY REWORKING THE SITE TO MAKE IT WORK AND I I DON'T THINK THAT'S BECAUSE I DID FIND THAT LANGUAGE MAGICALLY YOU JUST HEAR ON THE KEYBOARD IN FRONT OF ME IT IS 515 ED2 OF THE BUSY SO AND IT'S EIGHT FEET WIDE EXCEPT WHERE THERE IS A DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES ARE UTILIZED OR LOADING AREAS OR THE UTILITY OTHER THE REAR END OF THE BUILDING SO THE DRIVE THROUGH SIDES OF THIS CAR WASH WOULD CONSTITUTE THE DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES SO BOTH SIDES OF THAT ARE EXEMPT REQUIREMENT OF THE AP SO THE CAR WASH PORTION OF IT HAS MET

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IF YOU THAT. MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY AND I'M SORRY TO DO THIS BECAUSE I DO CERTAIN BASED ON EXPERIENCE I'VE SEEN HOW HELPFUL SORTS OF DISCUSSIONS CAN BE BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND PLANNING COMMISSION AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT APPLICANT'S OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT. BUT ULTIMATELY I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT DOES GET HIS FULL OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT ITS POSITION ON THIS ALLOW ALLOW TIME FOR QUESTIONS BUT FROM A DUE PROCESS STANDPOINT TO ENSURE THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS FULLY RECOGNIZED BY THE APPLICANT THAT'S WHAT IT IS WAS FAR BACK I THINK GOING TO HE GOING AND THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK YES SO THAT'S LANDSCAPING AS FAR AND THE NEXT SECTION RETAINS PERTAINS PARTICULARLY TO THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES I DID HAVE MAYBE A QUESTION OR MORE OF A STATEMENT REGARDING THE KEYS UP FRONT BOTH THE PROPANE AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S DELIVERED BY THE VENDOR WE DON'T DIRECTLY THAT AS FAR AS STOPPING IT WE JUST HAVE TO GET INSIDE CONTAINERS I'M SURE MOST FOLKS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROCESS WORKS AND AS WELL AS THE ICE CREAM CONTRACTS WE HAVE UP FRONT THOSE A KEY PART OF THE BUSINESS FOR US WE SELL A LOT OF ICE ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMERS. IT'S A BIG THING FOR US ESPECIALLY DOWN HERE IN BLUFFTON. I GUESS THE QUESTION OR MAYBE MORE OF MY STATEMENT IS RELATED TO THE SPECIFIC COMMENT FROM STAFF IN THAT IT DISCUSSES AT THE ELEVATIONS AND I KNOW THAT THE EXPOSED METAL CAJUNS WITH ELEVATIONS FACING HIGHWAY 46 THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION THE PRESENTATION BY STAFF RELATING TO HOW LARGE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS HERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WITH MY HOUSE REALLY A LARGE LANDSCAPE OVER HERE THERE'S THE EXISTING WOODED TREES THAT ARE THERE AND THE LANDSCAPE US ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT SO THE DISTANCE FOR THE LINE OF SIGHT I SHOULD SAY FROM WHERE THESE ACTUAL UNITS ARE SITTING ARE ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE FROM PARKING TO DRIVE WHILE AS A CANOPY A HUGE BUFFER OF TREES LANDSCAPE ALONG THE FRONT HERE AS WELL BUT A HUGE ONE FOR TREES A PARK FOR TRAIL FOR THE PARK STRIP THERE AND THEN A LARGER BUFFER OF TREES.

SO I DON'T KNOW FOR US THE REQUEST OF BEING ABLE TO BE SEEN FROM 46 IS SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARILY VALID COMMENT WHERE I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH STAFF AS NEEDED TO ADDRESS THAT AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT IN A WAY THAT'S REALISTIC FOR US.

WE CAN COME IN AND PUT IN LIKE A PICKET FENCE OR SOME SORT OF A LOW WALL ON THE FRONT.

IT KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THE PATIO THERE AND THAT'S REALLY TRYING TO GIVE IT THAT OPEN FEEL. AND SO BY PUTTING WALL IN THERE AT THE SAME IDEA IT KIND OF ENCLOSES THAT IN BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR US THAT WE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON AS I JUST WANT TO RAISE THAT POINT SPECIFICALLY LET'S SEE HERE THE OTHER TWO COMMENTS I HAD EARLIER RELATED TO THE PITCHED ROOF, THE CAR WASH SPECIFICALLY OVER THE STORAGE UNIT AREA AND THEN ALSO ALL THE EQUIPMENT GOES FOR THE CAR WASH.

I'M HAPPY TO USE A PITCH ON THAT LOOKS A CONDITION AS REQUESTED BY THE STAFF.

AND THEN THE LAST ITEM THERE WAS RELATED TO THE ROOF CABLE. THE ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT WILL WORK WITH STAFF ABOUT A ROOFING PLANT. WE DO HAVE ROOFING EQUIPMENT THAT'S ON TOP OF THE ROOF ALL OF OUR CONDENSERS EACH BACK UNITS THE THE TAPE, THE HOOD, THE MAKE UP AREA AND IT'S ALL ON OUR ROOF. WE DO HAVE A PARAPET THAT'S THERE WITH A GOALLINE TO WORK ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT AS THE ELEVATION THOUGH IT'S YES SO THIS A GOOD EXAMPLE HERE AND THE ACTUAL HEIGHT OF THE ROOF IS ROUGHLY MY MOUSE IS HERE IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S ACTUALLY BELOW THE FASCIA AND SO THERE'S A THERE'S A LARGE PARAPET WITH A LITTLE ROOF ON THE OUTSIDE THAT HELPS SHIELD ALL THAT SO WE'RE WITH STAFF TO PROVIDE A ROOFTOP PLAN AND WE ACCEPT THAT COMMENT AS AS PUBLISHED SO I APPRECIATE TIME THIS EVENING

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WHEN I LOOK AT ALL THOSE PARKING SPOTS I CAN'T WAIT 39 PARKING SPOTS NO I THINK MAYBE THE ONES ON THE EXTREME LEFT OR THE BOTTOM MIGHT BE SHARED SPOTS BY THE MASTER PLAN STUFF THAT YOU JUST SENT ME FOR A 5000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING YOU ONLY NEED 20 SPOTS.

IS THERE A REASON YOU'RE I MEAN BECAUSE YOU'RE CRAMMING IN SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING EVEN SAID ABOUT YOU'RE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TURNING FOR THE FOR THE CAR WASH WHY DO YOU NEED THAT MANY SPOTS? YEAH ABSOLUTELY GREAT QUESTION .

I HAVE TO REFER TO STAFF A LITTLE BIT. I BELIEVE WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF NOT ONLY FOR ONSITE PARKING BUT ALSO SHARED PARKING FOR THE OVERALL WE CLOSE TO THE NUMBER THAT WAS REQUIRED AND THERE'S SOME BRAIN FOG REQUIRED 20 SPACES SO IT'S 20 SPACES RIGHT AND THIS DIAGRAM RIGHT NOW IS 39 SO YOU KNOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME SHARE I GET THAT I'M JUST YOU KNOW IS THAT A WAY TO SOLVE PLANTING YOUR TURNAROUND SPACE FOR YOUR CAR WASH AND THEN USE THAT SHARED AS PART OF THE COUNTER DOES THAT THERE PARKING ALL HAVE TO BE CONTAINED ON THE LOT THE SHARE THAT'S ON THE ROAD TO THE SOUTH THEY CAN USE IN FACT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO GET A LETTER FROM A LOCAL RESIDENT SAYING THAT THOSE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE OFFSITE PARKING SPACES ARE ASSIGNED TO THE GREENFIELD VERSUS THE SIDE OF THE WORLD. AND WHAT ARE YOU SAYING COULD HAPPEN? YOU COULD REDUCE THAT DOWN ON SITE SPACES TO WORK OUT HOW GOING ABOVE THAT YOU NEED JUST TO LOOK AT IT. IT'S A IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I AS YOU CAN DESIGN SPACES OUT OF THAT AREA YEAH YEAH BECAUSE WE'RE ALLOWED TO UTILIZE IN OUR TOWN RIGHT NOW WE ARE UTILIZING AS UNDER THE KITCHEN HERE WITH THE MOUSE ON THE SCREEN THAT SHARED PARKING THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE STREET AND THE SPACES WORK IN THOSE AND I KNOW MARTIN'S YOGA WOULD GIVE YOU A

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IT WAS LIKE A PERCENTAGE LIKE THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SETTING A PRECEDENT SO WE WON'T YOU HAVE LESS MONEY FOR FURNITURE THEN THAT'S THAT'S A CHALLENGE WE'RE DEALING HERE SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE I DON'T CARE LET US MAKE SENSE HERE. YEAH YEAH BECAUSE THEN EVERYBODY WOULD WANT TO DO THAT AND THAT'S AND THAT LEADS INTO THE OTHER ONE WHICH IS THE ICE MACHINE IN THE PROGRAM. IT'S THE SAME SITUATION WHERE YOU'VE APPROVED ALL GAS STATIONS IN THE AREA AND THE RACES INSIDE BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK OUTSIDE OF ICE CREAM AND THAT TYPE OF WORK AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT YOU GOT TO LOOK AT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER CONTEXT SO IF THEY MOVED IT TO A LIGHT OR WOULD THAT BE AN EXACT PLACE OR OUTSIDE OUR WAY? OKAY. YES OR OR THE PURPOSE OF THE STORE IS ACTUALLY MORE IT'S FOR US ALL OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE INSIDE THE CARPORT.

SO I DON'T HAVE THE SPACE TO PUT THEM INSIDE SO IT WOULD BE OKAY.

I THINK IT'S A DEBATE OF DO WE HAVE THEM OR DO WE NOT? SO WE WOULD WANT THEM SO WE THEM OVER ON THE SIDE. YEAH SO IT WOULD WORK FUNCTIONALLY FOR YOU WITH THEM ON THE SIDE IT WOULD BE OKAY. YES. WOULD THAT WORK WITH THINGS THAT WOULD MEET THE REQUIREMENT AND THE OTHER OPTION IS I THE ICE COULD MOVE TO THE SIDE IF THEY NEEDED THE PROPANE CLOSER THE DOOR FOR SECURITY ISSUES INSTALLING YOU WELL ON THAT SIDE THAT'S NOT UNDER THE PORCH NOT AT THE OKAY SO THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS UNDER THE PORCH ROOFLINE. THIS AREA IS NOT UNDER DEPARTURE FROM I WOULD SAY THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO IF YOU GO THERE, EVERYONE GOES ON THE RIGHT.

THIS AREA HERE IS SET BACK LITTLE WAYS. IF THERE WAS A PORTION OF WALL THAT CAME OUT SO THAT IF THE ICE FACED SIDEWAYS WHERE THE STEPS OUT THERE COULD BE A PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT CONTINUES ON SIMILAR TO HOW YOU SEE IN SOME GROCERY STORES WHERE THE CARTS TIED BACK IN BEHIND THAT YOU ARE IN ON THIS SIDE IT COULD DO THE SAME OR THE ICE MACHINES COULD MOVE TOWARDS THE SIDE AND THAT PROPANE OR QUALITY CONVENIENCE I REALLY DISAGREE HERE A LITTLE BIT WHILE RIGHT THERE IT WOULD BE ADEQUATE SCREENING FOR THAT BECAUSE THE PROPANE TANK IS GOING TO BE LESS PLASTIC ICE CORE.

BUT ARE THEY LIKE STYROFOAM. YES, IT'S STILL THE CASE BUT INSIDE OF THE SIZE OF THE CAGES AND THIS ONE IS A SMALLER THAN THE TWO ICE CONTAINERS NEXT TO EACH OTHER ONE WITH THE OTHER.

SO AND THE SQUARE WE'RE INVOLVED IN THAT WE'RE GOING BUT I HAVE TO A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE COMPANIES THAT ARE ARCHITECTURALLY CERTAINLY BASED ON NAVIGATION AND I THINK THAT WELL I WAS STRUGGLING A LOT WHEN I WAS RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE A VERY PLAN AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP ME UNDERSTAND IN WHAT'S HAPPENING WHY DON'T WE EVER PLAY THIS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THERE'S NOT UNDERSTANDING WHERE SOME OF THESE GROOVES ARE COMING IN AND OUT. I LIKE SPECIFICALLY THE PARAPET WALL WITH THE STONE.

YES, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN MORE TROUBLE WITH. FIRST I WILL GO BACK WITH THAT TO GABLE ENDS AND JUST YOU KNOW THAT THAT VIEW ON THE LEFT ELEVATION IS JUST TROUBLESOME TO ME I DON'T KNOW THE SOLUTION SOLUTIONS PER SE BUT ALSO THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING IS A REASON IT'S A TALL PROPORTION OF IT I GUESS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE ON THE WINDOWS AND

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I WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY TO STILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT AN 18 AND A HALF PLUS FOOT TALL EXTERIOR WALL OR IF THE WINDOWS WERE RAISED HIGHER GIVEN THAT YOU HAVE AN 11 FOOT CEILING IF I WAS WERE RAISED A HAND OR SOMETHING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW EVEN WITH LIKE THE HEIGHT IT'S LIKE TWO STOREY BUILDING BECAUSE DURING AN 18 FOOT ASCENT OR GREATER YOU JUST THE PROPORTIONS ARE THIS IS A STANDARD DESIGN THAT YOU USING THE RAILINGS IT'S A GOOD QUESTION IT'S IT'S NOT REALLY THE SAME ACROSS ALL OF OUR STORES BUT IT'S IN CONCEPT A GENERAL DESIGN YES OR A LITTLE COUNTRY DESIGN IS WE CALL IT AND SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE STORE THAT ARE BUILDING IN BEFORE WE ACTUALLY TRY TO OPEN TOMORROW.

BUT I THINK THAT THE COMBINED VISIT YOU CAN SEE IT AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF STORES UPSTATE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF EACH AREA THAT WE'RE BUILDING A DESIGN. SO FOR US THE CANOPY IS SOMETHING THAT'S TRADEMARKED REFUELED. WE HOPE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE ACROSS THE STATE RECOGNIZE THAT CANOPY AND KNOW THAT IT'S REFUELED AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO A SIMILAR IDENTITY WITH THE BUILDING AS WELL SO IT CAN'T BE OVER THE YES BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE OTHER EXAMPLE YEAH I KNOW WE HAVE GOTTEN YET BUT I SPEAK TO THE LANDSCAPING AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS A 15 FOOT TALL FACADES TO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M SEEING FROM THE LANDSCAPE SIDE IS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY AROUND THE FACADE OF THIS BUILDING IS LIKE DECIDUOUS AND PERENNIALS AND SO IN ADDITION TO HAVING THESE LARGE BUILDING FACADES YOU DON'T HAVE ANY NEW THING THAT'S GOING TO REALLY BE OF SUBSTANCE IN THEM TO COVER UP THE SCREEN THEM TO SOFTEN THEM SOFTEN THAT'S A GOOD WORD. YEAH.

SO I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE PARTICULARLY WHERE YOU DO HAVE THESE LARGE OFFICES EVERGREEN LARGER OPTIONS UNDERNEATH WINDOWS I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEING SHORTER I STILL WOULD SHY HEAVILY AWAY FROM GOING DECIDUOUS AND THE PERENNIALS OUT FOR IT.

I THINK AS THEY PERTAIN TO THE 46 I DON'T HAVE A MAJOR ISSUE WITH BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE EVERGREEN ACTUALLY IN THE BUFFER ITSELF BUT THE OTHER SIGNS THAT FACE PARKSIDE THE NEW RIVERSIDE DRIVE REALLY NEED TO BE EVERGREEN IN NATURE AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A NEW PLACE

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I ACTUALLY THINK THAT COULD BE REALLY FUNNY ESPECIALLY IN THE SPRING CAN BE ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS ON THE ARCHITECTURE YOUR YOU SAID YOU WOULD CHANGE THE TWO AND 12 PITCH ROOF YOU AGREE TO THAT YES ON THE CAR WASH YES OKAY SO THEN THE NEXT THING FOR THE ARCHITECTURE WOULD BE THE SQUARE GAS CANOPY CURVED CURVED CANOPY WHICH IS THE SIGNATURE ANYWAY FOR SURE I'VE HEARD OF THE ARC. I HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE THAT IT'S CURVED BUT EVEN OUTSIDE THAT IF YOU TOOK A TANGENT LINE TO THE CURVE THAT IS DEFINITELY LESS THAN 412 SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING A PITCHED FRUIT AT ALL FOR THE WAY THAT WE DEFINE THATCHED ROOFS.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE FLAT ROOF SO NOT WITHOUT IMPEDIMENT AND THEN I ALSO DON'T THINK THE CURVES ARE REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR THE COUNTRY.

IT'S A SEPARATE THING BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT LIKE WISE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE. SO HAVE YOU DONE OTHER TYPES OF OR IS IT ONLY THE CURVE? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS IS THE PREFERRED THIS IS OUR TRADEMARK CANOPY.

YOU'LL SEE THIS THE MOST WITH US BUT WE DO HAVE AN ARSENAL SOME OTHER CANOPY THAT WE THAT WE BUILD AND WE TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM JUST A STANDARD RECTANGULAR YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT JUST DOESN'T I WOULD ASSUME THE PROBABLY DOESN'T LIKE THAT EITHER I'VE GOT A STORE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IN CHARLESTON SPECIFICALLY NEAR FOLLY BEACH LIKE A CABLE DESIGN IT IS A TO DISPENSE VERSUS A ONE DISPENSER SO WE'D HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE WOULD DESIGN THAT AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE KIND OF JUST A GO TO DESIGN THAT WE DO CLOSER IN NORTH CAROLINA A LITTLE BIT ABOVE THE COAST. SO WE DO HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVES. I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOR 12 OR MEET THEM FOR 12 REQUIREMENTS THAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED. BUT WE DO HAVE POTENTIALLY SOME OTHER OPTIONS NOW COME WITH A FULLY CUSTOM CANOPY THAT SATISFIES FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE.

WELL, NO, I THINK WE NEED TO SEE IT BUT AS FAR AS THAT THINKING IS HAPPENING, THEY CAN'T CHANGE IT. SO I CAN'T KNOW RIGHT THE WINDOW CAUSE EITHER YOU OR LYDIA HARPER AS THEY ARE ALSO HORIZONTAL DEFINITION YES BUT I THINK WITH LIKE WHAT LYDIA SAID IS SINCE THIS THING IS SO SMALL IT MIGHT BE MORE YOU CAN PLAY WITH SOME PROPORTIONS EACH I DON'T KNOW THE THING COMES DOWN THEN THE WINDOWS WE LIKE MORE VERTICAL MARKS THAN THE SMARTPHONE SO TYPICALLY THERE ARE GLASS BUT NOT FOR LOW SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS THE ANSWER TO IS YEAH IT'S JUST THAT WE PREFER THE MORE VERTICAL ORIENTATION WINDOWS THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO. I'VE PULLED UP THIS SIDE SAME STANDARDS AND THIS HAS NO BEARING ON MUCH HOWEVER STANDARDS FOR NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE.

IN THE ARTICLE I DEBATED I WOULD SAY IT IS A MAXIMUM OF 160 SQUARE FEET.

IT THEY ARE PERMITTED TO SAME TYPES BUT THE WALL MOUNTED SIGNS CAN BE DISTRIBUTED AT THEIR LIBERTY SO IT COULD BE AS MUCH AS 100 AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE.

I HAVE NOT REVIEWED SIGNS OUTSIDE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN FOUR YEARS SO I FOUND IT AND

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UNDERSTANDING OF IT THOUGH IS THAT IT'S 160 SQUARE FEET FLAT SIGNS WALL MOUNTED CAN'T EXCEED THAT AND THEN THE PERCENTAGE PER WALL SPACE CAN'T BE EXCEEDED AND THAT THAT MEMBRANE IS MAYBE TO FIND IN A SEPARATE PROCESS BUT I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO LEAN ON THE SIGNS TO MAKE THE ARCHITECTURE ACCEPTABLE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST KNOW WHAT THE DIMENSIONS ARE SO WE CAN CONFIRM THAT IT WOULD COMPLY OTHERWISE I THINK IF YOU CAN'T FOR WHATEVER REASON IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT TO HAVE A SIGN ON ALL THOSE CABLES I THINK WE NEED ANOTHER DATA THAN ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL ADDED. OKAY TO LIKE WHICH WE BROUGHT UP EARLIER WITH THE BLUE THAT WHAT IF IT WASN'T A BLUE MARBLE ANYMORE IT OR SOMETHING ELSE I TAKE ALL THE SIGNS OF THESE WHITE WALLS SO LIKE SAID YOU KNOW THINK ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE ON SOME KIND OF DETAIL THAT CAN HELP IN THOSE AREAS AND NOT RELY ON THE SIGNAGE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE APPROVED. OKAY.

OKAY. NAME TEMPERATURE RATING OF EVERYBODY AND I'M SURE IN YOUR IF YOU GET THOSE THREE OPTIONS TO APPROVE IMPROVEMENT CONDITIONS TO MY CAN ALSO BASED OFF OF THE NUMBER OF COMMENTS AND THE REQUEST FOR DETAILED ROOF PLANS AND SOME OF THE OTHER REVISIONS AND DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING MAKE THE POTENTIAL REMOVAL OF SOME PARKING SPACES OR THE USE OF SOME OF THOSE ALONG EITHER PARKSIDE OR RIVERSIDE.

THERE'S ALSO THAT OPTION TO TABLE IF THE APPLICANT AGREES TO PURSUE THAT AND IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN THAT OPTION, WHAT IS EVERYONE THINKING? THEY THEY ARE LOOKING TO MOVE THEM. I MEAN JUST TO SUMMARIZE IT MEAN WE WANT TO SEE A ROOF PLAN WE'RE RUNNING AN ADDRESS TO THE BUT FOR ON THE ONE SIDE AND SEE IF THE PARKING EVEN NEED TO BE THERE TO HELP YOU OUT AND THE MASS AND SCALE AND POSSIBLE VERTICAL ORIENTATION ORIENTATION I THINK FOR YOU WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO.

WE'D LOVE TO COME BACK AND A PLAN THAT ALIGNS WITH YOUR EXPECTATIONS FURTHER TO FEEL ALLOWS THAT DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION FROM US? I BELIEVE SO.

I CAN WORK AS A STAFF FOR THE SCHEME AS WELL. DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION THROUGH MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT REAL QUICK IS TO MAKE SURE IS GUIDED SURE.

SO THE THEY'RE GOING TO WORK TOWARDS THE EVALUATION PLAN AROUND THE EAST ELEVATIONS WASHINGTON HAWTHORNE THEY'RE OKAY WITH CHANGING THAT TO EITHER A BIGGER ONE OR A DIFFERENT ONE THE PROPANE AND HIGH SCHOOLERS GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO EITHER SCREEN IT OR MOVE IT TO THAT LEFT SIDE ELEVATION WHICH IS THE ONE TOWARDS THE PARKING SPACES WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT EXIST TO INVOLVE THIS PAGE ON THE CARWASH IS GOING TO BE INCREASED TO A FOREIGN 12 THE CURVED GAS CANOPY IS GOING TO BE MODIFIED TO PREFERABLY A PITCHED ROOF POTENTIALLY A SHED IS WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE FROM WHAT I WAS HEARING BEING SAID IT WILL BE A FOUR IN 12 PAGE. THE 30 ZERO UTILITIES ARE GOING TO BE SHOWN ON A ROOF PLAN WHICH IS GOING TO SHOW THE DEPTH OF ALL THOSE THOSE PARAPETS ARE BEING SHOWN THERE AND I WILL SEND YOU AN EMAIL WITH THIS TOO SO YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM VERY LITTLE YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF LONG KIND THE SIGNAGE THEY'RE OKAY WITH ALL OF THOSE THINGS THEY'RE POTENTIALLY GOING TO WITH SOME OF THAT PARKING ON THE LEFT ELEVATION BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT IS ON THE REAR. THEY'LL STILL BE ABLE TO MEET THEIR PARKING COUNTS, WHICH IS A REFINEMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

BUT THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE PLANS TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME MORE OF THEM ARE NOT DECIDUOUS EVERGREEN. THEY'RE GOING TO BE EVERGREEN OF SOME KIND SO THEY CAN STILL BE DECIDUOUS AS LONG AS THEY'RE EVERGREEN DECIDUOUS TREES AT THE SAME TIME THAT'S THE SAME THING CONIFEROUS AND IF THERE IS SEMI EVERGREEN IT'S GOING TO BE EVERGREEN.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE OUT THAT WORD I THAT ON HERE WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE HEIGHT OF THE WALLS PLATES TO IF IT CAN BE REDUCED A LITTLE BIT IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LONG OR ONE ARTICULATED BUILDING FACADES AND THERE'S A CLOUD CEILING AND WORK ON THE WINDOWS VERTICAL IF POSSIBLE OR AT LEAST SQUARE AND THEY CAN POSSIBLY COME UP WITH THAT BUT BY EITHER BREAKING UP THE WINDOWS OR ADDING A MINOR MATTER AND ADDING INSIDE A KITCHEN SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES THAT POTENTIALLY WILL HELP DID DIDN'T COVER EVERYTHING. HAVE I MISSED SOMETHING COMPLETELY BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT IT BUT I DID I KNOW I'M ADDING SOMETHING MORE LIGHT MORE LIKE 3000 AND I HAVE

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SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT WORD MORE LIKE 5700 FROM AN INDUSTRY STANDARD STANDPOINT AT LEAST WHEN IT COMES TO THE SITE, CAN WE PROVIDE A WARMER TEMPERATURE ON THE BUILDING ITSELF? OBVIOUSLY INSIDE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING FOR THE FIXTURE I THINK JUST THE ONES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE SO I WANT THE SAME THING TO BE WARM I DON'T WANT TO SEE 5700 THAT'S PEOPLE KNOW IT'S A VERY WHITE IS EXTREMELY QUICKLY THERE THERE IS A REGULATION IN THE VIDEO IDEA SO IN THIS CASE THAT GIVES A RANGE OF COLOR CURRENTLY IT WAS MEETING IT AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ARE THERE I JUST THINK DECORATIVE LINES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE VERY ODD IF YOU HAVE SOME THAT ARE 4000 IS ON THE 2700 AND SOME YOU KNOW BUT I THINK LIKE THE SITE I THINK LEADING ALL THE OTHER ARCHITECTURAL THINGS OUTSIDE YOU COULD HAVE THAT ROOF THAT DISCUSSES THE MECHANICAL PERPENDICULAR SHE COVERED THAT WITH THAT ONE WELL NOT JUST BUT JUST THE WAY YOU LOOK AT IS THE FACT THAT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS THE WHAT WE'LL DO I'LL JUST GET BACK. MY ARCHITECT ALREADY HAS. THAT'S HOW WE DID THE ISO DRAWINGS ON THIS. WE'LL DO A 3D ZOOM BACK UP IN THE AIR SO YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE WAY THAT THE LAYS NOT ONLY WITH THE ACTUAL TO THE ROOF PLAN BUT WE'LL DO A FULL 3D MODEL THAT YOU CAN SEE NOW I'LL HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR YOU AT OUR NEXT MEETING I THINK IT MIGHT BE GREAT I THINK IT WOULD HELP TO ME LIKE EAST BAY SPARKS COMMON LOCATION BUT I THINK IT WAS SPEAKING TO AS IT'S BUT IT IS ODD THAT PARAPET ROOF IS IN THE SAME PLANE AS YOU ME AND I DON'T NECESSARILY LOVE ON THE RIGHT SIDE BUT THE RIGHT SIDE AT LEAST IT'S ARTICULATED AS TWO SEPARATE MASSES THAT'S CLOSER DEPLANING AND YES SO I THINK IF THERE'S WE CAN BREAK THE PLANE BETWEEN THE SHORTER AND TALL ROOF THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY ON THAT ELEVATOR.

YEAH BECAUSE I THINK BECAUSE IT'S ON THE RIGHT WEST FACE AN A DISTANCE BUT ON THIS OTHER ONE IT'S JUST THE SAME I SAY YES THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK CAN IMPORTANT EVEN WITHOUT THAT YOU CAN SEE AS IT'S COME IN THE PROBLEM IS IS THAT BUILDING IS A REFLECTION OF THE ONE THAT IS HERE IN BLUFFTON BUT YEAH AS AS KATY'S INDICATING THAT ELEVATION THERE IS KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WHERE IT'S ALL IT'S ALL ON ONE PLANE I GUESS THAT'S WHY I WANT TO HELP US HERE BUT HOW THAT WORK OF COURSE THAT IDEA I MEAN ONE PUTS IT YEAH IS A IS IT SOMETHING THAT A COUPLE OF US COULD CONSULT WITH THEM AT A TIME OR NO THAT WAS STAFF AND OR TWO PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WITH THEM TO GET A BETTER PRODUCT AND BRING IT BACK HERE ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT HAVE ARCHITECTURAL IDEAS AND I DON'T SEE WHY THEY NO I MEAN THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD PROVIDE WOULD BE SUGGESTIONS AND RIGHT NOW WAS JUST A SUGGESTION HOPEFULLY THE ARCHITECTS ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING SUCH SERVICES WOULD BE OKAY IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WENT AGAINST THEM AND SOME OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY ONLY THING I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT SO I'M JUST YOU KNOW, JUST MURMURING UP HERE BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR A COUPLE TO GET TOGETHER WITH YOU AND BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT TIME IT COMES UP TO US JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION. WELL, YOU AND I BOTH OF OUR WORK ON ARCHITECTURE SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE MORE FOCUSED ON THAT AND KATHLEEN'S LANDSCAPE SO THIS OR SO AND I MAY SEE AND HEAR EVERYTHING IMMEDIATELY YOU HAVE SOMETHING AT ONE TIME NO NO, NO YOU WERE SAYING YOU SOMEBODY SAID WHAT'S THE LOCATION OF A PLACE IN BEAUFORT ? OH IT'S ON THE CORNER OF TRASK AND PARRIS ISLAND GATEWAY KIND OF AS YOU'RE COMING INTO TOWN THERE WERE 21 INDEPENDENT AIR STATION THE REAL NATIVE NOTICE SIGNS UP IN THE MORNING WE BY THE ONE WHERE WE ARE IN A RIBBON CUTTING IT'LL BE IN A MONTH BUT YES WE'RE WE ARE READY TO GO IT'S LUNCH 1:00 SO YOU GIVING AWAY FREE THE BIRDS AND OF COURSE THERE OKAY SO YOU'RE WILLING TO TABLES AND YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE

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SO THEN WHEN I GO TO SOMEONE I THINK RICHARD THAT I KNOW I THINK YOU KNOW I'VE MADE A NUMBER OF YOU TO WELL SOMEBODY ELSE THINKS I TRY BUT DO YOU WANT TO GO OUT? THIS IS CATHERINE'S LAST ONE, MY FRIENDS. I MAKE A MOTION TABLE IS THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE VERY FEEL UP HERE TO LOOK AT I GET THAT YOU HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION THANK YOU AGAIN THANK YOU KATHLEEN. ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN YES. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE AND KATIE HAS A DISCUSSION RIGHT TO POINT OF DISCUSSION REAL QUICK I PROMISE THEY WILL BE BRIEF.

THE FIRST ONE IS THAT I JUST LIKE TO INTERVIEWS AND YOU KNOW HE'S OUR INTERN.

SHE'S THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT INTERN AND YOU'VE BEEN DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.

SO I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW SOME OF HER MAY HAVE COME FROM HER WHERE SHE IS OR EVEN IF HER NAME IS ON IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT INTERNS GET IS OUR NAME ON THAT INFORMATION.

SOME OF THOSE TWO ARE INTEGRATED. RIGHT.

SO SHE'S DOING A WONDERFUL JOB . JUST WANT TO SAY HEY, SHE DID MAKE IT TO THIS LONG MEETING TONIGHT SO. THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH THAT. AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM IS ALREADY BEEN SPOILED IN THIS KATHLEEN'S LAST MEETING. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU KATHLEEN FOR ALL OF THE TIME THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO ALL OF THESE MEETINGS. WE HAVE HAD SOME MARATHONERS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT BEEN ON HERE. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR WORK THAT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO IT BECAUSE. YOU HAVE AN EYE FOR DETAIL DEFINITELY ESPECIALLY WHEN IT RELATES THE LANDSCAPING WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY MAKES IT MAKES A LITTLE SENSE THERE BUT. SHE HAS BEEN ON THE DRC AND ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHOLE TIME AND WE THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH KAREN. PAOLO SAID THAT PREVIOUSLY I DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT. WE APPRECIATE YOU. WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE MEETINGS BUT NOT THAT CHAIR NECESSARILY FOR A COMMENT I THE WE'VE BEEN DREAMING ABOUT HOW WE MANAGE AND RIGHT BUT I THINK HE'S RIGHT YOU WANT TO DO THE MOTION TO DO

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.