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[6. Approval of Minutes]
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DURROW AND WE HAVE MINUTES ALSO THAT WEREN'T PART OF YOUR PACKET FROM MAY 17TH 2023 MEETINGS ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS EVERYONE WANTS TO OFFER TO THOSE AND IF NOT MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE PENDANTS? I'LL MAKE EMOTIONAL COMFORTABLE SUPPORTED BY COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL AGAIN ALL IN FAVOR IF YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. WE HAVE A 5 TO 0 VOTE. THANK YOU.
THIS WOULD BE A TIME WHEN WE WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN APPEARANCE BY CITIZENS. ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH US TODAY? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES LATER IN THE MEETING WHEN WE GET ON CERTAIN TOPICS SO I DON'T SEE ANY PARENT FOR THE RECORD. DID WE HAVE ANY FORMAL COMMENTS? NO, SIR, WE DID NOT. OKAY, GOOD. THEN AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS OR NEW BUSINESS, IS THAT CORRECT? DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE TO OFFER
[11. Chairman’s Report]
TO THAT? OKAY. I'M GOING TO BE MOVING INTO COMMISSION BUSINESS IN THE CHAIRMAN'S REPORT. THE ONLY THING WOULD REMIND EVERYBODY. JUNE 30TH IS APPROACHING. YOU SHOULD HAVE HEARD SHAY ABOUT ANY CONTINUING EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLETE BY THAT DATE.[12. Staff Reports]
SO LET'S BE SURE THAT WE ALL ARE CURRENT WITH THAT AND HAVE THAT DONE WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. NOW WE HAVE SOME STAFF REPORTS. HERE'S HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK. WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE US TODAY TO FOR OUR REVIEW AND COMMENTS THAT THE STAFF WILL TAKE NOTES ANY COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE.BUT THESE ARE NOT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TAKING ANY ACTION TO APPROVE OR DENY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THE REPORT AND.
WE'LL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL COME BACK FOR COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND THEN ANY COMMENTS OR OR SUGGESTIONS THAT COME OUT OF THAT WILL BE RECORDED STAFF PURPOSES.
SO WHO'S GOING TO START WITH THAT ALL RIGHT. AMONG BOARD MEMBERS MY NAME'S FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS BRIAN EBER. I'M THE TOWN'S DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME IN GUYS TODAY AND PRESENT FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME TO COME THROUGH THE TOWN FOR APPROVAL ON AN ONGOING BASIS. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE COMPLEMENTARY TO THE THIS THIS IS PART OF THAT STEP. SO WE'D LIKE TO BRING BEFORE YOU THE PROJECT WHICH IS LOCATED AT ONE OF SEVEN LINK ON BUTTON DRIVE AND SPI INDIGO ONE RIGHT PROJECT PROPOSED OASIS UP 3.6 ACRES OF UNDISTURBED SITE AND 219 TOWNHOMES BY RIGHTS THEY WERE ALLOWED TO A 21 HOMES BUT FITTING WITH THEIR COTTAGE FEEL AND DESIGN THEIR ONLY SUBMITTED 1921 POSSIBLE THE DEVELOPMENT WELL LET ME THIS UP SO YOU CAN SEE 19 DIFFERENT AND THESE ARE JUST BUILDING THEY'RE NOT BUILDING FOOTPRINTS THEY'RE JUST KIND OF TRIANGLES WHERE THE BUILDINGS COULD GO HAVE INCLUDED FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN HERE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY HAVE ALSO INCLUDED SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT SUBDIVISION ON BOTH SIDES AGAIN RIGHT FOR A MORE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTRIC KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THEY HAVE ALSO INCLUDED WHAT I'M REFERRING TO AS A MODIFIED HAMMERHEAD DESIGN TO ALLOW FOR BETTER ACCESS ESPECIALLY AT THE ENDS OF THE HAMMERHEAD.
OFTENTIMES THOSE GET OVERLOOKED AND PEOPLE HAVE REAL PROBLEM BACKING IN GETTING OUT AT THE SAME TIME AND THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY IF THE ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR PARKING TEMPORARY PARKING IN THESE LOCATIONS AS WELL INTENTIONALLY WERE REVISED THESE ARE BASED PLANS AFTER THE TOWN'S INITIAL REVIEW CORRECTIONS REPORT SUBMITTED TO THEM THE REVISIONS 25 OF THE 27 COMMENTS AT THE TOWN AT THAT TIME THE SUBMITTAL IS STILL UNDER CURRENTLY UNDER STAFF REVIEW AT THIS TIME TO ENSURE THAT IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT ALAMO FOR THIS TABLE RIGHT IS THE IS THE ROAD ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE DIAGRAM IS UP LIKE A BUTTON IS NOT WHERE THE ACCESS IS TO THE YES SIR THIS IS LIKE A BUTTON HERE THIS IS I THINK THE BELIEVE CHURCH ENTRANCE KIND OF RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM OKAY LET ME ASK IS THERE ANY PUBLIC
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COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL? YES, SIR. PLEASE WOULD YOU WOULD YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD, GIVE YOUR NAME AND HELP BUT OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT COMMISSION COMMENT SUGGESTIONS. YES.SO SO YOU MENTIONED 3.6 ACRES SO THIS IS 5.2 UNITS PER ACRE. IT'S A REINFORCED SO THERE OVER THE THREE ACRES LIMIT SO THEY'RE ALLOWED TO ZONE ESSENTIALLY AT IT AT EIGHT OH.
OKAY. THANK YOU AND IF YOU WANT TO STAY UP THERE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE UNITS WAS NOT CLEAR DO THESE HAVE RANCHES IN OVERALLS. NO SIR THESE ARE COTTAGES.
THEIR GARAGE DOESN'T EXIST. THEY JUST HAVE PARKING. OKAY AND AS THE PARKING THAT THE SPACES IN FRONT IS INTENDED FOR TWO CARS CARS. OKAY SO MY PERSONAL CONCERN HAVING LIVED IN MY CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD PREVIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS IS THAT THERE IS NO ACCOMMODATE FOR PARKING FOR VISITORS AND AND I KNOW THERE'S IS TOO MANY TURNAROUNDS BUT IF IF BOTH PEOPLE'S CARS ARE IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE VISITORS OR HOLIDAYS OR BIRTHDAY PARTIES OR THINGS THERE WHERE ARE THOSE FOLKS GOING TO PARK AND? SO WHEN I SEE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE THIS TIGHT WITH SUCH LIMITED PARKING AVAILABLE AND THE OCCUPANTS CARS ARE GOING TO BE IN THE DRIVEWAY, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THOSE CARS OR THE VISITORS CARS ARE GOING TO GO AND SO IT'S A IT'S A SAFETY CONCERN AND IT'S A IT'S A CONCERN OVERALL OF WHERE THOSE ARE. AND SO THAT'S WHY INITIAL SHOULD COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONER PURPOSES WE ARE STUDYING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THE LEG OF ROAD FOR 19 CURRENT UNITS AND IS AVAILABLE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE RIGHT FIRST I SEE SOME VARYING SETBACKS IN THE FRONT UNITS BUT IN THE BACK END IT'S PRETTY MUCH STAGNANT RIGHT.
ARE OUR TRUCKS ABLE TO LIKE A DELIVERY TRUCK FOR FURNITURE OR MOVING TRUCKS? ARE THEY ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT THESE LAYERS? SIR, IT'S A FULLY COMPLIANT HAMMERHEAD BUT. WE DID ENCOURAGE THEM TO MODIFY IT SO THERE WAS EVEN ROOMS AT THE END OF THE HAMMERHEAD INSTEAD OF JUST BEING A T INTERSECTION FIRE TRUCKS.
FIRE HAS LOOKED AT THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS LOOKED AT IT THINKING OKAY, DO YOU THINK THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM IN THAT HAMMERHEAD FOR CARS TO THERE LIKE VISITORS AND FOR A FIRE TRUCK TO GET AROUND THERE TEMPORARILY? I BELIEVE SO, YES, SIR.
OKAY. THERE'S STILL THAT WITH THERE FOR THE HAMMERHEAD THAT THEY NEED AND DEPENDING UPON WHERE WE THE FINAL LOCATION WHERE THE FIRE HYDRANT GOES WILL PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN ENSURING THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN AT THE FURTHEST REACHES THAT'S A PORTION OF THE LAST REMAINING BUILDING. WHAT'S THE SPACING BETWEEN THE TWO COLUMNS FENCE? YEAH, IT HELPS. YES, RIGHT OKAY. SO IN A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS FRIEND OF MINE ACTUALLY FIREFIGHTER IS NEIGHBOR ON ON FIRE LITERALLY MELTED MOST OF THE INSIDE OF HIS HOUSE SO THAT'S A CONCERN I GUESS SO THE ARE NOT CALLED OUT BUT BY LOOKING AT IT IT LOOKS TO BE FIVE FOOT EITHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE SO IT'S A TEN FOOT BETWEEN THE HOMES IN THAT 15 I THOUGHT WE'D MOVE THAT THE 15 PER AND YOU SAID THE PERMITTED DENSITY WAS 21 UNITS AND THIS IS 19 OR 22 WAS IT IS 21 AND THIS IS 19 LIKE THIS MORE THAN AROUND YOU KNOW THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOME WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE
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BUILDING FOOTPRINT YET. THESE ARE JUST KIND OF THE OUTLINE.THE SAME DEVELOPER ALSO DEVELOPED THE COTTAGES ON BEACH CITY ROAD JUST NORTH OF DILLON IN MY BY THEIR THE COTTAGES ARE RELATIVELY COTTAGES SINGLE STOREY OAK REFLECTING THE COMMENTS THAT THESE SPEC HOMES OR THEY'RE GOING BE CONTRACT MEAN I WANT TO I BELIEVE I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IF IT'S OWNER OCCUPIED OR NOT BUT I KNOW HE DOES BUILD IN HAS BUILT SEVERAL BUILDINGS HERE ON THE ISLAND THAT FROM JUST AN EDITORIAL HERE'S FOUR MORE ACRES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR WORKFORCE GOOD LOCATION AND BUST FOR MORE TO ESSENTIAL WORKFORCE HOUSING WHICH IS OUR BIGGEST NEED ON ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND SO I'M ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT ANXIOUS WHEN WE WHEN WE LOSE RAW LAND FOR MORE DENSITY AND IN NOT FOR SALE BUT OWNERS RIGHTS RIGHT BELPER DID BUILD ON ALEX PATTERSON AND THAT IS WORKFORCE HOUSING AND IT TO BE SIMILAR IN SIZE AND SCOPE AS THAT BUT I CANNOT SPEAK A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE WHAT'S THE EXPECTED COST PER UNIT OBVIOUSLY IT'S A RISING MARKET IN ITSELF BUT AT LEAST IDEA OF JUST THE SAME 4 TO 500000 HOME NEIGHBORHOOD 5 TO 6 I'M LOOKING BACK AT THE IN THE DESIGNER AND HE'S SHAKING HER HEAD BUT EACH OUT IF THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE MARKET RATE MARKET TO MAKE ABSOLUTE WE CAN REACH OUT BY THAT COMMISSION BUT IF THIS IS STILL IN REVIEW IS THERE STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT ADDING ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES SOMEWHERE? BUT I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A OF THAT BALANCE. RIGHT. I MEAN WE WANT OPEN SPACE AS VIABLE USABLE FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE SAME TIME TO BALANCE THE PARKING NEEDS THAT THE DEMANDS THAT MAY COME IN WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WERE INVOLVED SOME SORT OF MEDIAN IN A LITTLE MORE OF A BOULEVARD LOOK HAVE SOME ON STREET PARKING AS WELL AS BUT THEN WHEN YOU PUT IN THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS AND PRICING THE LAND STARTS SHRINKING TO THE POINT OF VICTORIAN SQUARE WHICH IS RIGHT ON LAKE HAMILTON AS WELL HAS VERY SEVERE PARKING PROBLEMS AND THEY HAVE A ANCILLARY PARKING LOT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD REQUIRE ELIMINATING ONE OF THE HOME SPACES PROBABLY BUT THEY HAVE AN ANCILLARY PARKING LOT HELP WITH THE OVERFLOW WHEN PEOPLE HAVE GUEST OVER BECAUSE AGAIN I JUST LOOKING AT THIS SEEING WHERE ANYBODY'S GOING TO PARK IF EVERYBODY'S HOME AND THEY'RE HAVING GUESTS YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CARS PARKED ALL OVER LIKE A AND I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT I'M SEEING HERE BUT I THINK MY COMMENTS ARE ABSOLUTELY OKAY THAT WOULD WOULD THE DESIGNERS AND THE ORGANIZATION OF THE DEVELOPER THE APPLICABLE OR WOULD CONSIDER MAYBE VARIANCE OF FACTS THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING HERE A GROUP AND ALSO WITHIN THE TOWN THAT'S A THOUGHT THAT WE'VE HAD YOU KNOW WHEN HAVE A MONOTONOUS ROW IT HAS HAPPENED IN A COUPLE INSTANCES AND IT'S A DRASTIC FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCE AND DIFFERENT TYPE OF MODELS OF HOMES VERSUS ONE SPECIFIC ONE I FIGURED THERE'S GOT TO BE THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOMES RIGHT NOW AND EVEN COME UP FOR THE POWER OF WHATEVER IT'S ENGINEERING WE WERE THE APPLICANT FOR THIS AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT KNOW THEY REALLY HAVEN'T DEVELOPED ANY KIND OF MODELS ARTICLE GRAVITY RIGHT OUT OF THIS A COUPLE TIMES I THINK THE INTENT IS FOR IT TO BE A SINGLE STORY SMALLER TYPE HOME BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T DEVELOPED ANY KIND OF MODELS AT THIS TIME OF HAVE PADS SHOWN TO
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BE GREAT THAT HAVE BEEN CITED BUT SEE THE OPTIONS ARE ULTIMATELY LOOK LIKE OR THE DEPTHS I THINK MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW I'VE GOT LOTS OF SUPPORT AND TO THE I GUESS WEST IN NORTH WHAT WHAT ARE THE OTHER THAT'S LIKE I MEAN YOU KNOW I FOR A BUYER BUYER AND WE USE GOING DOWN YARD OR AN ORDINANCE AROUND IT AND OKAY OR COMMISSIONER WHALEY IS PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY ALONE DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ASK? YEAH I DO HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT YOU HEARD ALREADY WHICH IT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND IF THESE ARE GOING BE RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND THIS IS GOING TO BE OPEN PARKING FOR EACH THESE COTTAGES THAT OH WHILE I COMMEND THEM FOR ONLY PUTTING 19 IN A SPACE THEY COULD HAVE PUT 21 I BELIEVE THAT IF IT WERE A HOLIDAY AND THEY WERE YOU KNOW TWO OR THREE THESE FAMILIES HAD CARS PARKED THERE AND THERE WERE SAY EMERGENCY.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE HOW EMERGENCY VEHICLES COULD GET THROUGH THAT THAT THAT RIGHT AWAY THAT ROAD THAT THEY'VE THEY'VE BUILT THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
SO AGAIN MY COMMENT WOULD BUILD ON COMMENTS OTHER PEOPLE MADE WHICH IS AND IT PROBABLY DOES MEAN MOVING OR REDUCING ONE OF THE THE SPACES FOR A BUILDING IS THERE'S GOT TO BE OVERFLOW PARKING SOMEWHERE HERE I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S SAFE EVEN THOUGH THE ITSELF HAS BEEN LOOKED AT BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WE'VE SEEN WHERE AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PARK ON LIKE A MOUNTAIN ROAD IF THAT OVERFLOW WENT TO LIKE A MOUNTAIN ROAD? WE'RE PUSHING THE SAFETY ISSUE OUT ONTO LIKE A MOUNTAIN ROAD WHICH I DON'T THINK IS APPROPRIATE OR FAIR TO THE PEOPLE THERE ESPECIALLY SINCE ENTRANCE TO THE CHURCH IS ACROSS THE STREET KNOW PEOPLE SWINGING IN AND OUT OF THERE ESPECIALLY AROUND HOLIDAYS WHERE CHURCHES ARE GOING TO BE BUSY WITH THEIR OWN EVENTS AS WELL AS THEIR SERVICES. SO YEAH, I'M NOT HAPPY LOOKING AT THIS FROM A PARKING PERSPECTIVE. SECOND QUESTION IS THEY HAVEN'T DESIGNED THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE ITSELF BUT THEY SEEM TO HAVE BOXED SPACE. SO IF IT'S A ONE STOREY WHAT WHAT WAS CONTEMPLATED BY THE SPACE THAT'S THERE IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE LIKE WHAT'S THE RANGE ROUGHLY THAT DEFINITELY THIS WILL ALLOW AGAIN HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME BUT I WANT TO SAY THE RECTANGLES ARE ABOUT 30 BY 1530 BY 16 LINES OH AWESOME NOT MUCH BUT I THINK WHAT'S GRAPHIC COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE BREAKING UP I THINK WHAT'S GRAPHICALLY DEPICTED ON ON EACH LIGHT IS APPROXIMATELY 30 BY 60.
OKAY. AND ALSO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WILL BE PLOTTED AS SIMPLE IN TERMS OF HOW IT WILL BE PROCESSED. I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL TAKE IN ITS OR BUT I THINK THE INTENT IS FOR IT TO BE PLOTTED AS BE SIMPLE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
OKAY. AND FINAL QUESTION FROM A UTILITIES PERSPECTIVE, THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE AIR CONDITIONED AND HAVE GARBAGE PICKUP.
SO THE STRUCTURES WILL BE PLACED WHERE I SUSPECT TO THE NOT TO THE SIDE.
BUT THAT'S A QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU AS WELL AS WASTE MANAGEMENT SO THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, SHOULD THIS TURN INTO A SHORT TERM RENTAL LOCATION WHICH WHEN I LOOK AT IT THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT POPS TO MY MIND. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD ON THE AIR WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS IS GARBAGE. SO COULD SPEAK TO WHERE THE MECHANICALS WOULD BE, HOW THEY WOULD BE HOUSED OR ENCOMPASSED OR SHIELDED AND AGAIN YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE ROAD AND THE SIZE OF OUR GARBAGE TRUCKS AROUND WHAT WAS WHAT WAS ENVISIONED TO. HANDLE THAT. THANK YOU.
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YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. IT'S IT'S WILLIE AGAIN.EACH EACH LOT WILL HAVE OFF TRASH SERVICE AND THE TOWN HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF REINFORCING THE FACT THAT ANY AC SYSTEM ANY TYPE OF OTHER COMPONENT TO THE HOME THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PHYSICAL HOME MUST BE OUTSIDE OF ANY KIND OF SIDE OR FRONT SETBACKS I WOULD ASSUME AS YOU MENTIONED THEY WOULD BE IN THE REAR BUT AS OF NOW AS OF NOW WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS AND WHAT SPACE AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW ATTIC SPACE.
OKAY QUICK AND SO TO THAT POINT THE THREE PERIMETERS NOT LOOKING LAKE ROAD BUT THE THREE PERIMETERS DO THEY BACKUP TO OTHER RESIDENTIAL AREAS COMMERCIAL AREAS OR ARE THEY WHAT IS RIGHT NOW THIS IS BRIAN AGAIN WITH THE TOWN SO TO GET TO THAT HIGH TO THE SOUTH IS INDIGO RUN SO THAT IS CURRENTLY PART OF INDIGO PUDI THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS JUST OUT OF THERE TO THE WEST AGAIN IS IS INDIGO RUN BUT IT'S THE POINT BUT IT'S NOT TO WAVE FROM WHERE THESE HOUSES WILL BE THROUGH A DRAINAGE WAY IT'S THE NORTH IS TOWN OWNED LAND THAT WE USE CONTRACTORS TO DOWN THERE THERE'S STORM PIPES AND THEIR EQUIPMENT AND STUFF THAT WE MAKE. OKAY THANK YOU. AND ONE FINAL THING THERE IS NO PARKING ALLOWED ON MAP. SO AS WE LOOK AT PARK ON LAKE ALBERT, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT GARAGES ARE BENEATH THE BUILDING AND THAT THE PARKING SPACES WE SEE HERE FOR GUESTS IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BEING CONSIDERED? I DON'T THINK SO.
I THINK WITH THE ELEVATIONS WE HAVE HERE IT WAS MORE OF A SLAB ON GRADE TYPE LIKE COMPONENT WITH THE PARKING OUT FRONT BEING FOR RESIDENCES. THE TOWN WOULD YOU KNOW REALLY MADE THAT WE HAD ADEQUATE PARKING SPACES BEYOND THE SIDEWALKS THE SIDEWALKS DID NOT COUNT AGAINST ANY OF THAT PARKING DEPTH. SO ACTUALLY THE SPACES ARE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER THAN WHAT YOU'D NORMALLY SEE. THE SIDEWALK WAS NOT IN THE PLOT OR POINTS ON IT BUT THE PARKING PRESENTS YOU KNOW WE LIKE THEM RIGHT IN THAT AREA IT'S A FLOOD ZONE. THERE'S NO NO NO FLOOD HAZARDS .
OTHER QUESTIONS ARE ON THAT WE WOULD ASK FOR STAFF TO TAKE THOSE COMMENTS CONSIDERATION AS YOU CONTINUE TO REVIEW AND GO ON TO OUR NEXT PROJECT WHICH IS ON THAT ONE SOUTHPORT BEACH DRIVE. ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT AS WELL? OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, I'M YES CHAIRMAN.
I'M GETTING ALL OF THEM. EXCUSE ME IS THIS GOING TO BE THE BEACH HOUSE ONE? YES. YEAH. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THE RIGHT DOCTOR. THANK YOU. OH, THE THE BEACH HOUSE WAS LOCATED AT ONE SALESFORCE BEACH DRIVE. THE PROPOSED PROJECT INCLUDES TWO PHASES THESE ONE CONSIST OF A NEW STAGE STRUCTURE EXPANDED TIKI BAR A COMPLETE POOL AREA RENOVATION AND A NEW ACCESS PATH THAT WILL BE USED BY THE TOWN AND OUR BEACH CONTRACTOR TO ACCESS THE BEACH IT JUST GET YOU TO PLAN THIS IS KIND OF SHOWING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT ARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING. IT'S MAINLY THE SEAWARD SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND TO DO THE IN THAT'S EXISTING CONDITIONS THE HOST CONDITION LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND IT FOR YOU ALL I THINK WOULD BE FAIR TO TALK ABOUT IT WITHOUT YOU
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GUYS SEEING WHAT THE ACTUAL OH ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT HERE AREA THIS DARK SHADED AREA IS THE AREA THE NEW POOL AND THE THESE ARE LIKE AREAS I GUESS FOR LIKE LOUNGE CHAIRS DIFFERENT AMENITIES FOR PEOPLE ALL ENCOMPASSING EXCUSE EXCUSE ME BRIAN WHICH EXHIBIT ARE YOU LOOKING AT SO I CAN PUT SO I CAN PULL IT UP AS WELL AND YOU SEE MY SCREEN OR NO NO NO THEY THEY UP THERE THEY GO.OKAY YEP. OKAY THANK YOU. THIS IS THE AREA OF THE THE POOL THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN DARKER SHADE. IT INCLUDES BOTH THE POOL AND THE POOL DECKING AREA AROUND THE SWIMMING POOL MAJOR RENOVATION TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THERE'S BASICALLY SQUIRTED OFF MADE IT MORE OF A RECTANGLE THAN THAN A AREA HERE DEPICTS MICKEY HURT THE REVISIONS TO TIKI BAR AND ALSO LET'S LET'S SEE HERE THIS IS THE AREA I SPOKE ABOUT THAT THAT THE TALENT CONTRACTOR WILL USE THE ACCESS BEACH OR DAILY SERVICES IN EMERGENCIES SERVICES SCOPE OF THIS IS SCOPE FOR PHASE ONE SCOPE OF WORK FOR PHASE TWO INVOLVES THE CONSTRUCTION INSTALLATION OF A PAVILION LOCATED A THIS IS PHASE TWO RIGHT HERE JUST INVOLVES THAT PAVILION AND THE BCA HAS GRANTED A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THAT PAVILION TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND ENCROACH INTO THE TOWN'S COASTAL PROTECTION AREA OVERLAY DISTRICT BOTH PHASE AND PHASE TWO WILL NEED APPROVAL FROM THEIR FORCE BEACH OWNERS ASSOCIATION PRIOR THE TOWN BEING ABLE TO APPROVE THE PLANS.
THE ATTACHED PLAN SET IS THE SECOND SUBMITTAL WHICH TOWN STAFF HAS REVIEWED AND WE SENT CORRECTIONS REPORT TO THE APPLICANT LAST FRIDAY EVENING OUR COMMENTS ON THIS PROJECT WILL ALSO NEED APPROVAL FOR BOTH PHASE ONE AND TWO AS THE CURRENT STATUS IS STILL FOR REVIEW. THERE'S STILL COMMENTS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS DURING THIS POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS WHAT WHAT THEY LOOKED AT WHEN THEY GRANTED THE YEAH A VARIANCE TO WOULD IT HAVE TO DO WITH DUNE ANYTHING TO DO WITH DUNE MANAGEMENT THEY'RE DOING PROTECTION TO THE TOWN STAFF LOOKED AT THE FOUR CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AND APPLY THAT TOWARDS PROJECT AND THEN THE APPLICANT ALSO SUBMITTED THEIR THEIR REASONING BEHIND HOW THEY COMPLY HOW THEY FEEL IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT CRITERIA TO GRANT THE VARIANCE A STAY THE BDA COMMITTEE CHOSE TO GRANT THIS VARIANCE BUT IT WAS JUST IT WAS JUST A SLIGHT ENCROACHMENT. IS THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU CALLED IT?
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IT IS. AND IF I MOVE ELLEN HERE A LITTLE BIT EARLY, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 15 FEET 13, 13 FEET I BACK IN 1999 THIS STATE DESIGNATED A LINE THAT IT REFERRED TO AS THE OSSUARY LINE . THAT OSRAM LINE WAS SET IN IN 19 AND ADOPTED THAT AS THIS BEACH FRONT LINE FROM THIS LINE HERE NOW ANY ENCROACHMENTS FROM A BUILT ENVIRONMENT OR A STATE IN 2017 MAYBE 16 WHEN THEY DECIDED TO MOVE THEIR LINE FROM THE SEAWARD AS A RESULT OF OF THE DUNES MOVING NATURAL TO CONSISTENTLY THE TOWN CHOSE AT THAT TIME AS A POLICY TOWN COUNCIL CHOSE TO KEEP THAT BEACH FRONT LINE WHERE IT WAS AND THEN THEY'VE ENCROACHED ABOUT 13 FEET WITH THEM WITH THESE OPEN AIR PAVILION OF POST ON CORNER BUT IT BASICALLY TO THEM IT WAS YES IT STAYED RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE OTHER ENCROACHMENT SO IT'S REALLY ALMOST QUEERING IT ALL YOU DON'T ALLOW BUILDING THIS IS DUCKING OKAY WE GO AHEAD WHO'S GOING TO BE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE DECKING THERE? I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE SCORE FOR THE POOL AND THE DECKING. YEAH, THEY'RE JUST THAT AREA.THIS IS THE PAVILION HERE. THE PAVILION OF 30 BY 40 IN SIZE.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER BUT WE CAN CONTINUE COMMISSION DISCUSSION IN A MINUTE.
BUT FIRST LET ME POINT OUT IF WAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN THIS PRESENTATION ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WANTED TO ADDRESS THIS OKAY THEN BACK TO COMMISSIONER COMMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS OF BRIAN OR ANYBODY ELSE I THINK MAYBE OR FUTURE IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE COULD SEE MAYBE A SIDE BY SIDE OF WHAT IT WAS WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE JUST TO MAKE IT MORE OF A VISUAL. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND TAKE YOU BACK TO THE PREEXISTING CONDITION PLAN THAT WOULD BE OF SOME HELP ANSWERS QUICKER THAN IF THIS KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE EXISTING YEAH AND THE TIKI BAR IS JUST AT THIS POINT IT'S JUST A RECTANGLE THAT THE NEW PROPOSED WOULD HAVE IT MORE OF A OF ACROSS LIKE SHAPE SWIMMING POOL AND THE BEACH AREA. UM DECKING IS MORE OF A CROWDED SHAPE VERSUS THE SQUARE SHAPE EARLIER BUT WHAT WE NEED TO ENSURE IS THAT IN ENCROACHMENTS THAT ARE THEY THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY MATTERS WORSE AS RESULT OF THEIR NEW PLAN THE BEACH FRONT LINE BUT THE DECK WILL DO SO WELL THIS IS GOOD I THINK ANY TIME YOU HAVE AN OLDER PROPERTY AND YOU'RE IN YOU GET SOME GOOD. BUT SINCE RENOVATIONS IT'S IT'S A GOOD THING SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS A GOOD CAN YOU TELL ME TOO IS DREW PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO RUN CONCURRENTLY OR DO THEY BULK ONE FOLLOW ANOTHER? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE HAD TO START PHASE WITHOUT PHASE TWO BECAUSE PHASE TWO CAME ABOUT WHEN THE BCA TO ALLOW THE ENCROACHMENT ON THAT THAT VARIANCE HAS GRANTED WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF HAVE TO MELD THE TWO TOGETHER AND MAKE IT ONE AND WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR THIS TO BE NOW TIMELINE FOR CONSTRUCTION WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE THE TIMELINE NESTING MAY BE SEPTEMBER AT A OUR SITE TIMELINE I AGREE WITH
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TOM THAT IT'S A IT'S POSITIVE FOR THE PROPERTY MANY TIMES AND AND I KNOW IT WENT BEING UP THE HOLIDAY AND BRANDED PROPERTY TO AN INDEPENDENT PROPERTY AND I THINK THESE ARE THESE ARE GREAT IMPROVEMENTS AS LONG AS THEY FOLLOW THE THE GUIDELINES WALLS AS FAR AS THE BEACH BUT THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO GOOD ON CLIENTS HAVE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH SO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENT OR QUESTIONS THIS IS ELLEN I HAVE A QUESTION.YES, THANK YOU, BRIAN. WHEN I LOOK AT THE SCHEMATIC OF THE PROPOSAL OF THE PAVILION I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROPERTY AS WELL IS ARE THOSE CABANA SPACE NEW AND IN ADDITION OF THE CABANA SPACE FOR SEEING ENCROACHMENT GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE CABANAS WOULD YOU HAVE NEEDED THE ENCROACHMENT? YEAH.
IF THE CABANA IS CONSIDERED A BUILDING THEN IT WOULD IT WOULD NOT BE PERMISSIBLE BEYOND THE TOWN'S BEACH FRONT LINE. YEAH, I'M ASKING A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
I DON'T THINK THOSE CABANAS EXISTED BEFORE SO THAT'S AN ADDITION.
IS THAT CORRECT ASSUMPTION BASED ON WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE PROPERTY YEAH I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE ANY CABANAS OUT THERE TODAY. OKAY SO THERE AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF CABANAS BUT IT LOOKS LIKE BY ADDING THE CABANAS IT FORCED THE ENCROACHMENT ON THE PAVILION. IN OTHER WORDS IF ALL THESE CABANAS WEREN'T THERE AND THE PAVILION THAT EVENT SPACE THEY USED ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOTEL WERE ON THE FOOTPRINT THAT WAS THERE FOR THE EVENT SPACE CLOSER TO THE POOL YOU WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THAT ENCROACHMENT BECAUSE THOSE CABANA THOSE CABANA UNITS LOOK LIKE THEY'VE GOT TO BE ABOUT TEN OR 15 FEET THEMSELVES DEEP. YOU KNOW, THEY LOOKED AT THEY HAD A PROPOSAL SKINNY IT UP A LITTLE BIT BUT WITH THE PAVILION BUT THEY DECIDED TO DO BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS ESSENTIALLY ELIGIBLE FOR A VARIANCE THEY WERE ALLOWED AND THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT THEY WHAT THEIR ORIGINAL PLANS WAS I THINK THEY NEED EVENT SPACE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THE TENT THAT THEY'VE THE TOWN IS PERMITTED ON THIS IN THAT SAME FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS SO IT'S ACTUALLY A SMALLER FOOTPRINT THAN WHAT IS OUT THERE DURING THEIR NORMAL SORT OPERATIONS OF THAT BUT THAT ORIGINAL YEAH THE ORIGINAL TENT WENT PROBABLY WHERE THE YOU KNOW, THE UNCOVERED PART THERE WAS NO TENT WHERE WHERE THE CABANA SPACE IS NOW GOING TO OCCUPY, IS THAT CORRECT? JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE SPACE LIKE ABOUT FIRST OF ALL THE CABANA SPACES WERE NOT THERE RIGHT.
RIGHT SO THAT'S THEY THOUGH THEY ADDED THOSE CORRECT. CORRECT OKAY.
AND WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE DEPTH OF THOSE CABANA SPACES I HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE MAYBE I'LL HAVE COMMISSIONER WHALEY JAY WENDELL IS HERE TO ADD SOME CONTEXT SO.
MR. WENDELL ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU WENDELL THANK YOU. 18 NOW SO CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE WHEN YOU'RE YEAH WHEN YOU'RE NOT NEAR TO CAN HEAR EXCUSE ME CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW. I CAN'T THANK YOU. THE POSITIONING OF THE PAVILION A SPACE THAT IS CURRENTLY UNOCCUPIED WHEN IT IS IT'S OCCUPIED BY A TENT.
TENT IS ACTUALLY LARGER THAN THE PAVILION HAVE PROPOSED HERE.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY THE IN A SPACE THAT IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED PERMANENT I THINK 26 TIMES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS AT A TEMPORARY OKAY. SO THAT DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION. MAYBE I DIDN'T PHRASE IT CORRECTLY.
HOW DEEP ARE THE CABANAS? IF THERE WERE NO CABANAS THERE WOULD YOU HAVE NEEDED THE VARIANCE NO MA'AM. THE PARKING LOT HINDERED OUR TO RELOCATE THAT PAVILION THE CABANAS ARE CURRENTLY SITTING IN A SPACE THAT IS CURRENTLY POOL DECK AND JAY THIS IS THIS IS A BIKE CAN YOU CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES YEAH YEAH I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION ON THE SIZE OF THE CABANAS IF YOU'D LIKE THERE TEN BY 1010 FOOT BY TEN FOOT SQUARE AND THEY ARE AN F AN ITEM OR A NON PURPOSE BUILT STRUCTURE SO THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE A LIGHTWEIGHT OPEN AIR STRUCTURE BUILT BY QATAR. SO THERE WILL BE A AFFIXED TO THE GROUND BUT ESSENTIALLY BOLT ON TO THE GROUND THEY'RE TEN FOOT BY TEN FOOT SQUARE.
OKAY SO. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A VISUAL.
SO WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY CORRECT ME WHEN I'M WRONG IS THAT THE CABANAS WILL SIT ON WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DECK SPACE AROUND THE POOL SO THAT HAS NOT BEEN EXPANDED SO FOLLOWING WHAT MR. WALKER SAID, THAT'S A ROUGHLY SOMEWHERE AROUND A TEN FOOT PLUS WIDE TODAY THE POOL DECK
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ON THAT SIDE WELL THE DECK IS BEING REMOVED WHERE IT BEING IT'S A COMPLETELY SHAPE.RIGHT. SO EVERYTHING IS OKAY. YOU'RE MOVING THE REINVENTION OKAY. YEAH. ALL BUT BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO BRING EVERYTHING ALL THE POOL, THE CAVING IN THAT ZONE IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY RENOVATED WITH IMPROVED FINISHES AND AN IMPROVED OVERALL EXPERIENCE.
OKAY SO THE POOL IS YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT OUT OF THAT KIND OF CIRCULAR ISLAND KIND OF TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SHAPE. SO YOU'RE MAKING BETTER OF THE SPACES? ABSOLUTELY. IT'S A COMPLETELY UPDATED SPACE. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT THANK YOU. OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS THIS TOPIC AND THEN WE'LL GET WE WILL ASK TO TAKE THOSE COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION AS THEY CONTINUE TO REVIEW AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE THIRD ONE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY WHICH IS THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS AND BRIAN YOU'RE UP AGAIN. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
NEXT IS THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS IS LOCATED AT TEN. TANGLEWOOD IS ADJACENT TO THE CELEBRATION PARK. THE PROPOSED PROJECT INCLUDES THE RENOVATION IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS THAT FEELS THAT THIS IS A CREATIVE INFILL PROJECT OF AN EXISTING STRUCTURE TO ADD COMMON AREAS THE HOTEL AND PULL THE PLAN UP AS WE SPEAK THEY WILL BE ADDING COVERED DROP OFF AREA AS WELL AS DOING SOME PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS FOR CIRCULATION PURPOSES. THEY WILL MIMIC THE SIMILAR LANDSCAPING PLANTING THAT WE DID AT CELEBRATION PARK IN THE SAME FIRM THAT WE USED OUT OF THAT PARK DEVELOPMENT.
THEY ARE ALSO INCLUDING A NEW ACCESS INGRESS EGRESS ACCESS LOCATION DIRECTLY TANGLEWOOD ALIGNING UP WITH THE EXISTING ENTRANCE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE THAT'S A GOOD THING THE THEY HAVE SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN A SECOND SUBMITTAL A REVISED PLANS BASED UPON THE TOWN'S INITIAL CORRECTIONS REPORT AND CURRENTLY IT'S UNDER STAFF REVIEW AT THIS TIME PROJECT DID GO TO DERBY BECAUSE DOES INVOLVE BUILDING ALTER ALTERATIONS AND SO THE DERBY HAS REVIEWED THIS TWICE AND HAS APPROVED THERE'S A METAL EFFORT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE LET ME ONCE AGAIN FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT OR QUESTIONS CITIZENS HERE BEING DONE. LET'S GO TO A COMMISSION DISCUSSION. ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OF BRIAN OR COACH? MR.. OH, JUST ANOTHER THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF YOU COULD IN THE FUTURE GIVE US A BIG MAP VIEW SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHERE THE ISLAND IT IS AND IN RELATION TO EVERYTHING ELSE BEFORE YOU GET TO THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WHERE WE CAN INVITE VISION HOW IT SITS AND WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW JUST BE HELPFUL. I KNOW FOR ME THAT'S A GREAT POINT THERE. ANOTHER DRAWING THE SET THAT ZOOMS OUT MIGHT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TO CELEBRATION PARK? THIS IS KIND OF THE WHAT I CALL THE BOUNCY AREA, RIGHT? IT'S VERY SOFT. YOU CAN HAVE THE EXERCISE AREA WE HAVE IT'S ALONG NASSAU STREET AND IN THE BACK CORNER TO IT THE PARK IS OBVIOUSLY TO THE NORTH OF THIS SITE QUITE A BIT BUT THE PATHWAY AROUND THE PARK INCLUDES THIS AREA AND IT ALMOST TOUCHES DIRECTLY THE HOLIDAY EXPRESS. SO FOR THE LONGEST WE HAD WE HAD ISSUES I WOULD RELATED WITH
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THE SITE BUT AS THE TOWN IMPROVED THAT LAND AND CREATED THE CELEBRATION PARK, THOSE THOSE ITEMS HAVE GONE AWAY. I THINK THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS FOLKS HAVE SEEN A REASON TO DO THIS MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT THE TOWN DID DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. IT'S A LITTLE BIT THEY DIDN'T JUST DO THE ADDITIONAL COMMON OPEN SPACE AREAS THEY NEED FOR FOR VISITORS TO THEIR BUSINESS.THEY ALSO LOOKED AT IMPROVING THEIR LANDSCAPING LANDSCAPING AS WELL AS THEIR PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS AT SAME AND GETTING BETTER TRAFFIC SAFELY IN AND OUT OF ADJACENT TO NASSAU. THERE'S NO ADDITIONS TO THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS ITSELF AS THERE IS AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAVEMENT ADDITIONS THIS PLAN JUST SHOWS PAVEMENT ADDITIONS BUT THERE IS AN ACTUAL DERBY IMPROVEMENT TO THAT WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY CREATING A NEW COVERED DROP OFF AREA AS WELL AS THEIR BILLING IN AN OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. IF THIS IS BUILDING ONE ON THE SOUTH WHERE MY ARROW IS POINTING IN THIS BUILDING TWO ON THE NORTH THE KIND OF FILLING IN THAT GAP WITH A NEW COMMON AREA PEOPLE CAN CHECK IN EASIER BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY CURRENTLY HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SOUTH FIRST BEACH AND TANGLEWOOD WHAT WAS I THINK AN OLD RESTAURANT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAD TO CHECK. SO INSTEAD OF DOING THE CHECK IN DOWN THERE THEY'RE NOW GOING TO BRING PEOPLE INTO HERE CREATE A LOBBY OF SORTS. THEY CAN DO SOME OF THOSE AMENITIES IN KEEPING WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE SET IT'S APPEALING.
IT'S MODERN HAS A DIFFERENT LOOK. IT'S THE RIGHT COLOR SHAPE I WISH I HAD THE PHOTO TO SHOW YOU MORE CONVENIENT TIME. YEAH I THINK I THIS LOOKS LIKE A VERY GOOD PROJECT AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEING WELL-THOUGHT OUT AND I LIKE THAT THEY'RE TYING THE LANDSCAPE INTO THE PARK TO MAKE THAT WHOLE AREA FEEL COHESIVE SO I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD PLAN. YEAH, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE UPDATING AN OLDER UNIT AREA THAT GIVES A BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR VISITORS.
OTHER QUESTIONS ARE COMING TO COMMISSIONER WHALEY. ANY POTENTIAL COMMENT? NO, I'M THRILLED THAT THEY'RE UPDATING IT AND IT'S GREAT CELEBRATION PARK HAD A A PACKED AND ANCILLARY EFFECT ON IT SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT EVERY COMING TO YOU VERY SOON OKAY GREAT. ALL RIGHT.
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE TO OUR FINAL ONE WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE CONVERSION OF THE OZARK BANK PROPERTY PROPERTY. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN.
I MEAN YOU SAW THAT SLIDE BUT THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 1036 WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY SOME PEOPLE REMEMBER IT AS OZARK BANK PROPERTY IN FACT VIEWED THIS IS IS KIND OF A ROUGH OF ONE OF THE PLANTS IT'S FOR THE PLAN BUT THE EXISTING SITE AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE HAD A FAIR AMOUNT OF NONCONFORMITY RELATED TO IT. WE'RE TODAY THIS IS NOTHING THAT WE WOULD APPROVE OF THE DRIVE THRU IN THE BUFFER IN ALL THE SORTS OF OF OBSTACLES THAT THE WE WOULD SAY NO TO TODAY AS PART OF THIS PROJECT THE APPLICANT HAS SEEN FIT TO ELIMINATE A LARGE SECTION OF THE DRIVE THRU COMPLETELY ELIMINATE YOU KNOW THE ACTUAL WHERE YOU PARK DRIVE AND EXIT OUT AND SO THE NONCONFORMING ISSUES HAVE REALLY BEEN TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICAL FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT BUT THE GREAT THING IS THAT THERE'S SEVEN UNIT MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AND HE'S ALREADY BEEN I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN APPROACHED SEA PINES RESORTS FOR THEIR ON THEIR STAFF AS A PLACE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING SO THIS IS REALLY A CONVERSION OF AN OLD BANK DIRECTLY FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM. SO I THINK IT'S A VERY CREATIVE USE.
THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 600 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AND IF FEW ELEMENTS THINK ALSO ALLOW SOME OF THESE GOING FORWARD THEY MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IN FUTURE SITES AS WELL AS JUST STRICTLY BUILDING ENVELOPES FOR PEOPLE. BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED THE SECOND
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SUBMITTAL FOR THIS PLAN BASED UPON THE INITIAL COMMENTS AND MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THEM AND IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER STAFF REVIEW AT THIS TIME WE HAD CORRECTIONS REPORT THAT WE GAVE YOU PROBABLY DOES INCLUDE THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THIS NEW A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED TO US ESSENTIALLY THE THING WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK WE WAS BRINGING THINGS BEFORE YOU WE SET UP A REVIEW IS CALLED WE ESSENTIALLY CALL IT THE DIRT MEETING HAVE A DESIGN REVIEW TEAM OF STAFF WE GET TO MEET AND SIT DOWN AND LISTEN TO THE APPLICANT AND SO THEY GET TO ASK QUESTIONS WHAT DOES CORRECTIONS NUMBER 12 MEAN THAT MEANS IN MY DEVELOPMENT SO WE'RE ABLE TO SPEAK PLAIN ENGLISH AND SO IT GIVES THEM A LOT OF GUIDANCE FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAD A HEALTHY DEER TEAM MEETING WITH THEM AND SEVERAL OF THE APPLICANTS TODAY THEY'RE ABLE TO BRING BACK FORTH TOWN TO THE TOWN SOMETHING THAT'S MORE IN KEEPING WITH WHAT WE'RE ALL STRIVING FOR IMPROVING. THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR BUILDING PLANS FOR THE SITE AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW . WELL, THE OTHER STATUS NOTE YOU SHOULD KNOW IS THAT THIS ALSO DID GO TO DERBY AND DERBY DID APPROVE THIS THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE WE'D LIKE TO LIMIT THE DERBY REMOVAL REVIEW AFTER IT COMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO IN CASE THERE ARE MAJOR MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN MIND WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGE WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ON DERBY HAPPEN AFTER IT COMES THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS AND FOUR MAJOR OKAY.AGAIN BEFORE WE BEGIN A COMMISSION DISCUSSION IS THERE ANYBODY FROM PUBLIC CITIZEN COMMENT ON THIS PROJECT SAYING NONE WILL GO TO COMMISSION COMMENTS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF BRIAN ON THIS ONE? IS THERE GOING TO BE ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND THE HOUSING? YES SIR. THEY DO MEET PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE HOUSING AT DEVELOPMENT BUT TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM SEA PINES IS THAT THEIR BUS, THEIR THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A VEHICLE TO PARK SO THEY'VE GOTTEN CREATIVE WITH THEIR THE BICYCLE SITUATION. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF BICYCLE PARKING AVAILABLE. THAT'S MAINLY WHAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE HAVE ACCESS TO THE NET, THEY HAVE A SHUTTLE, THEY HAVE A ACCESS BUT IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE SIZE THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND THEY HAVE A QUESTION THAT MAY BE BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU CAN ANSWER BUT IT'S KIND OF A GENERAL QUESTION WHEN WE SEE PROJECTS THIS WHERE WE'RE TAKING BUILDING AND AND PUTTING IT UNDER THE MONIKER OF WORKFORCE HOUSING IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THAT RESTRICTS IT FROM BEING FLIPPED OVER INSTANTLY TO SHORT TERM RENTALS MEANING CAN A PROJECT LIKE THIS HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT THE LEASES BE FOR A YEAR OR SOME OF TIME FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME AND AGAIN I REALIZE THAT MAY BE BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE PREPARED TO ANSWER. BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS WHEN WE WHEN BECAUSE I'M PRESUMING WE'RE GOING TO SEE LOTS MORE OF THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS OF BUILDINGS BEING CONVERTED LEASED. HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE WORKFORCE HOUSING AND I'M JUST CURIOUS THEY STAY IN THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING MONIKER AS LONG AS THEY CAN. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I'D LIKE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. COMMISSIONER HENSON YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION TO BECAUSE THIS IS EXACTLY THE TYPE PROJECT LOOKING FOR. I JUST HOPE IT TURNS OUT LOOKING NICE AS WELL BUT BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TOO IS IS I WOULD LIKE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS WILL CONTINUE TO BE GREAT WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR SHE PINES EMPLOYEES IT'S IDEAL THAT WE ARE AWARE OF ANOTHER ONE THAT THEY DID JUST DOWN THE ROAD ON TARGET ROAD SHE PAINTS OWNS IT RIGHT SO WE'RE GOING HANG ONTO IT SO IT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND I THINK WE SHOULD WE SHOULD FOLLOW WITH YOU ON THAT ONE CPI JONES SO THERE'S MORE CONTROL THIS ONE TO TO CHUCK'S QUESTION THEY DON'T HAVE THAT CONTROL BUT IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION NO BUT SEE THAT IT'S SEVEN UNITS FOR HOUSING WHAT IF IT'S MIXED USE THE OTHER UNITS
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HOW MANY OTHER UNITS? IT'S ALL HOUSING EXCEPT FOR THE OFFICE SPACE AND A 3 TO 1 OFFICE SPACE TO ALL THE SPACE JUST ONE OFFICE SPACE THEY WOULD HAVE THEY WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO HAVE EIGHT BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE DENSITY ALLOWABLE THE EIGHT EIGHT UNIT DON'T HAVE THE ACREAGE VERY CLOSE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.THANK YOU SO MUCH BRIAN FOR EXPLANATION OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS WE RECEIVED LEARNING ABOUT THEM FROM YOU I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR ANYONE ELSE HAVE
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