Jun 08, 2023 Town of Hilton Head Public Planning Committee

[1. Call to Order]

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WELCOME TO THE JUNE 8TH PUBLIC PLANNING MEETING LIKE NOT MEETING TO ORDER AND THAT WE

[2. FOIA Compliance]

[3. Adoption of the Agenda]

[4. Approval of Minutes]

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE PHRASE MASS SCALE DENSITY HEIGHT AND IN OTHER WORDS FLOOR AREA RATIO EXCEPT AFTER ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[5. Appearance by Citizens]

IN ADDITION TO THE MOST MORAL HAZARD THAT INCENTIVIZE LOW WAGE EARNERS TO DEPEND ON GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES A RESTRICTION IN THE OTHER COMPLEX COMPLIANCE PAPERWORK DISINCENTIVIZE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS TO PARTICIPATE IN GOVERNMENT SPONSORED PROGRAMS. WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND WORKER SHORTAGE IN HILTON HEAD ISLAND ARE STRUCTURAL ISSUES. MORE THAN 70% OF THE ISLAND WITHIN THAT HAS LOW DENSITY COVENANTS AND THE ISLAND HAS BEEN A DRAW FOR DECADES FOR RETIREES THE 65 PLUS AGE GROUP CONSTITUTE ALMOST 40% OF THE POPULATION HERE ON THE ISLAND MORE THAN DOUBLE THE STATE AVERAGE OF 18%. THE UNBALANCED RATIO OF WORK AGE TO RETIREMENT AGE POPULATION IS THE KEY REASON THAT THE ISLAND HAS TO RELY ON MUNICIPALITIES FOR ITS SUPPLY OF WORKFORCE. A STUDY COMMISSIONED BY THE TOWN GOVERNMENT IN 2017 ESTIMATED THAT MORE THAN FOUR 14,000 WORKERS COME UNIT TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND EVERY DAY.

MORE THAN 60% OF THE WORKFORCE CAME FROM JASPER COUNTY OR BLUFFTON SAVANNAH AREAS WHERE LAND IS CHEAPER AND WHERE THE PREFERRED TO LIVE. OVER THE PAST DECADE THE POPULATION IN BLUFFTON EXPLODED OFFERING PLENTY OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES TO KEEP SOME OF THOSE WORKERS CLOSER TO HOME . WHEN JASPER OCEAN TERMINAL IS COMPLETED HILTON HEAD ISLAND WILL ALSO BE COMPETING FOR WORKERS WITH JASPER.

IN ADDITION, AS MORE PEOPLE LIVE AND VACATION HOME AIRLINE TRAFFIC GETTING ON AND OFF THE ISLAND HAS BECOME A NIGHTMARE. RESULTING EVEN LESS WORKERS WHO ARE WILLING TO SUFFER HOUR COMMUTE TO TRADE A HOUSE WITH A BACKYARD FOR 400 SQUARE FOOT SUBSIDIZED STUDIO.

THEREFORE THE MOST RATIONAL URGENT MATTER IS TO ADDRESS WORKFORCE SHORT TO ADDRESS WORKER SHORTAGE. IT IS TO SOLVE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION.

IN THIS CASE LET THE MARKET DO WORK EVEN THOUGH IT DOES NOT ALWAYS OPERATE IN THE POLITICIAN'S TIMELINE. SOLVING WORKFORCE. IT'S BETTER TO HAVE COMMON SENSE THAN COMPASSION IN THIS CASE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. BRYAN ALLMAN. I KNOW OF CHILDREN AROUND AND SEE THEIR SUPPORT THE PROJECT PERFORMANCE 20 VACATION AT 3001 AHEAD NORTHWEST VIRGINIA WHERE

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BUT ALL ENGINES NEED THEY NEED WHAT IS THE FUEL THAT DRIVES OUR ECONOMIC ENGINE WAYS PEOPLE. THIS PROJECT WILL GO A LONG WAY TO SOLVING OUR EMPLOYEE SHORTAGE AND THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE HERE ON HELPING OUT ALSO IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PRIVATE DOLLARS ARE BEING USED WITH NO PUBLIC SUBSIDIES TO REJUVENATE SOME BLEMISHED PROPERTIES HERE ON HILTON HEAD. ONCE AGAIN I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. O'BRIEN MATT SWEENEY MORNING. THANK YOU PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS MATT SWEENEY AND I LIVE IN INDIGO RUN. THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ISLANDER MIXED USE PROJECT IS REALLY IMPORTANT NOT JUST BECAUSE IT CONSIDERS MINOR AMENDMENTS TO THE L.A. BUT BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS A MODEL FOR PRIVATE MARKET BASED SOLUTIONS WORKERS WHO WISH TO LIVE ON THE ISLAND AND THE EMPLOYERS WHO VALUE THEIR WORK. GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS GENERALLY DON'T GO AWAY SO PROJECTED OVER A DECADE. RECURRING COSTS OF THE NEW HOUSING A DIRECTOR TO LEAD IT AND STAFF TO MANAGE IT WILL COST ABOUT MILLION DOLLARS.

THE BENEFITS WILL BE CONCENTRATED IN A RELATIVELY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE WHILE THE CONSEQUENCES WILL BE IMPOSED ON A GREAT NUMBER OF TAXPAYERS IN AMOUNTS THE GOVERNMENT HOPES WILL BE SMALL ENOUGH THAT THEY WON'T BE NOTICED. WE HAVE HEARD WELL-INTENTIONED POLICYMAKERS AND NONPROFITS EXPRESS THEIR NOTIONS, IMPROVED PRODUCTS AND SERVICES IN THE FUTURE AS A RESULT OF SUBSIDIZED HOUSING. BUT HOW CAN THEY KNOW? WILL THE WINNERS OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LOTTERY BE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE WORKERS? WILL INELIGIBLE TENANTS EVER REALLY BE EVICTED? WILL ELIGIBLE TENANTS BE EMPLOYED BY COMPANIES THAT MIGHT FAIL WITHOUT WORKERS WHO ARE SUBSIDIZED? AND THEN THE MORAL DILEMMA OF FAIRNESS. AS OF 2021 THERE WERE ALREADY MORE THAN 7000 HOUSEHOLDS LIVING WITH 32 120% OF AMI ON THE ISLAND.

HOW IS IT FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO PICK WINNERS TO BE THEIR NEIGHBORS? THERE HAVE BEEN NO DISCUSSIONS OF HARMFUL CONSEQUENCES FOR THE OPPORTUNITY COST OF OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING FRAMEWORK. BUT BELIEVE THERE ARE MANY. THE TOWN COUNCIL SHOULD DISCLOSE THEM AS A PRIVATE FREE MARKET SOLUTION. THE ISLANDER MIXED USE PROJECT ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR TAXPAYER AND THEREFORE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF TAXPAYERS SUBSIDIES. THIS DEVELOPER HAS FULL VISIBILITY TO PROFIT AND LOSS GENERATED IN A FREE MARKET PROCESS WHERE AT LEAST IS WILLING TO SHOULDER THE RISK FOR ALL OF IT AND WILL MEET THE EXPRESSED NEEDS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.

FINALLY, AS IS USUALLY THE CASE IN FREE MARKETS, THE ISLAND OR MIXED USE PROJECT ABOUT A YEAR AHEAD OF THE GOVERNMENT'S SCHEDULE. YOUR DISTRICT PLANS FOR EXAMPLE, WON'T BE ADOPTED UNTIL THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR. WHY LET THAT CONSTRAIN PRIVATE PROJECT? WHY NOT LET IT SHOW YOU AN EFFICIENT MARKET? IT'S FAR BETTER THAN ANOTHER SELF-STORAGE FACILITY. PLEASE MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PROJECT TO A CREATIVE MARKET SOLUTION SAVE TAXPAYER DOLLARS, REVITALIZE A DILAPIDATED BUT VALUABLE LOCATION ON OUR ISLAND .

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARK THORN SEGMENT ONE.

DOWN. DAN SIMON I WAS RECRUITED IN 1985 TO COME TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND, WORK WITH CHARLES FRAZIER'S VP OF FINANCE. I WAS INVOLVED WITH HIM WITH THE LOVE DIFFERENT THINGS, DIFFERENT PROJECTS. ONE THING HE POINT OUT IN 85 WAS A NEED OF WORKFORCE HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY AND LOCATION OF IT CLOSE THE WHERE PEOPLE WERE WORKING. I'VE BEEN ON THE ISLAND FOR EIGHT YEARS OF THE AGENCY BY SPENDING 30 YEARS. I COME IN AND OUT OF SLEEP MONTHS ALL THE TIME.

I CUT THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME. IT'S AN UGLY SIDE.

IT'S BEEN UGLY SIDE SINCE I FIRST MOVED HERE. BUT THERE'S DEVELOPERS TRYING TO DO CLEANUP A VERY UGLY AREA. IT'LL THE PROVIDE THE HOUSING THAT WE NEED FOR EMPLOYEES AND WORKFORCE HOUSING. IT CAN PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THE STUDENTS LIKE UCB ACROSS THE STREET AND THE LOCATION IS IDEAL TO CUT DOWN ON TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF GREENWOOD DRIVE ALL THE TIME. IT'S IT'S NIGHTMARE WHAT HE'S DOING WITH THE LOCATION WILL GREATLY ENHANCE WALKING AND BICYCLE MOBILITY FOR THE WORKFORCE.

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THANK YOU, DON. DR. ALPERT, TO THE POINT. THANK YOU.

FIRST OF ALL, LET ME JUST TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU FOR THE LONGSTANDING SUPPORT AND COMMITMENT TO THE UNIVERSITY THAT THE TOWN HAS SHOWN.

WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. AND SO I AM ABSOLUTELY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS PROJECT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE PARTICULARLY OF UCB AND WE AS AN INSTITUTION ARE COMMITTED TO THE VISION THAT WAS SHARED WITH THE TOWN OF REALLY GROWING A ROBUST EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION HERE, PROVIDING A FULL RANGE OF EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FROM ALL ONLINE.

I MEAN AND I'LL ASSURE LIFELONG LEARNING INSTITUTE HOSPITALITY MANAGEMENT AND TO POSSIBLY ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS WE MOVE FORWARD AND IT IS PARTICULARLY WELL UNDERSTOOD KNOWLEDGE FOR OUR CONTINUED GROWTH THAT HOUSING STUDENTS IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL AND HAVE BROUGHT CREDIT FROM ALL OF CAMPUSES THAT HOUSING IS AND CONTRIBUTOR AND DRIVE OF GROWTH AND CONTINUED GROWTH AND IT'S PARTICULARLY GOING BE SO HERE BECAUSE OF THE ADDED CHALLENGES TO TRANSPORTATION AND THE FACT THAT SOME OF MY STUDENTS HAVE TO START WITH HOUSING IN BLUFFTON THEN WHEN THEY'RE TRANSITIONING TO JUNIOR AND SENIOR YEAR THEN DON'T HAVE HOUSING HERE.

WE ALSO DON'T HAVE THAT HOUSING IS SO CRITICAL BECAUSE THE GROWTH OF STUDENT POPULATION HERE WOULD HELP TO CONTRIBUTE NOT ONLY TO THE VITALITY AND VIBRANCY THAT WE WANT HERE BUT ALSO TO THE WORKFORCE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING PARTICULARLY IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY. OF THE DIFFERENT PLANS THAT WE HAVE HAD TO CONTEMPLATE OVER THE YEARS, THE PLAN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE MOST FEASIBLE FOR OUR INSTITUTION AT THIS POINT IT IS ALSO POTENTIALLY THE TIMELY FOR US IN HELPING US CONTINUE TO DRIVE THE GROWTH THAT WE ARE STRIVING FOR. SO I DO WANT TO SPEAK ON OF OUR INSTITUTION AND ITS CONTINUED GROWTH AND IN IN APPEALING TO YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS PLAN. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR FULL SUPPORT FOR YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MIKE WAGNER. FINALLY MIKE.

MORNING. I'M MIKE WAGNER FROM SHORT BEACH SERVICE.

EVERY YEAR SHORT BEACH SERVICE HAS A FOR HOUSING AROUND 60 BEACH LIFEGUARDS TO ACCOMMODATE THIS. OVER THE YEARS PEOPLE OWN UNITS AND RESORT.

WE'VE ALSO GONE AND RENTED FOR YEARS AND BOTH UNITS. WITH THE IN SHORT TERM RENTALS THOSE HAVE BEEN HARDER HARDER TO FIND AND WE HAVE YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE STRUGGLING TO FIND HOUSING. WE FOUND IT THIS YEAR BUT IN EXTREME PRICES IN MANY CASES ESSENTIALLY PAYING A SHORT TERM RENTAL FEE FOR FOUR MONTHS AT A TIME.

OUR PRIMARY NEED IS NOW THROUGH AUGUST. SO WE'VE LOOKED INTO PURCHASING MORE BUILDING MORE UNITS IN THE PAST BUT FOR US WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE RENTAL MARKET

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THANK LYNN FONTAINE. GOOD MORNING. I'M IN I'M IN.

NANCY GRACE DISTRICT. BASED ON THE STAFF ASSESSMENT THIS ISLANDER MIXED USE PROJECT ENJOYS MANY ADVANTAGES LONG TERM LEASE CONTRACTS WORKING WHICH LEAVES THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DETERMINING ELIGIBILITY DATE AND AFFORDABILITY TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR INSTEAD THE GOVERNMENT CONVERTS VACANT AND DILAPIDATED OFFICE BUILDINGS INTO ISLANDER HOUSING AND LIMITED COMMERCIAL USE MODERATE DENSITY ON THE SITE. COVERAGE RATIOS.

NOT GOING TO BE ANOTHER AQUA TERRA IT REVITALIZES U.S. HOSPITALITY PROGRAM BY OFFERING STUDENT HOUSING. CURRENTLY THERE IS ONE AND INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY. THE HELPING HAND TOWN GOVERNMENT HAS INVESTED MORE THAN $20 MILLION TO THE UNIVERSITY. THE CURRENTLY ENROLLMENT IS ONLY ABOUT 10% OF CAPACITY. MORE IMPORTANTLY, INVESTORS WILL TAKE THE RISKS WITHOUT THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS. WE HOPE PLANNING COMMITTEE WILL VOTE IN FAVOR TO ENCOURAGE PRIVATE PARTICIPATION. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. MY NAME IS JAY WENDELL AND I LIVE AT 18 MANOR COURT LANE AND HELP IT OUT. THE INTENTION I'M ALSO GENERAL MANAGER OF THE BEACH HOUSE HERE AT LAKE MI CIRCLE. IN 2013 I CHAIRED THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND. THEN DAVID BENNETT ASKED ME TO MEET WITH THE TOP PRIORITY AND THE BIGGEST ISSUE WAS OUR COMMUNITY BUSINESSES AND I TOLD HIM AT THAT POINT IT WAS HOUSING. THAT WAS IN 2015. MY WIFE A ASSOCIATE WORKS AND LIVES IN BLUFFTON AND. SHE'S GOING TO BE LEAVING HER JOB MOVING BACK TO CAROLINA BECAUSE SHE CAN'T AFFORD THE RATE INCREASE IN BLUFFTON. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY BUT WHAT WAS ONCE 1500 DOLLARS IS MOVED TO 20 $500 ON A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT 2015 TODAY. OUR ISSUE IS EXPANDING BEYOND HOME AND IT'S GOING OUT AND NOTHING OUR WORKFORCE EVEN FURTHER AWAY. THAT'S A BIG ISSUE AND IT HASN'T CHANGED. YOU KNOW, JUST LAST WEEK WE GOT IT BY THE WAY, BANK YESTERDAY IT WAS GREAT. YOU THOUGHT IT WAS FANTASTIC. WE ADDED YET ANOTHER 100 PLUS JOBS INSIDE THE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. NOW WHEN I THINK OF THIS SPOT AND THIS LOCATION AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING WORK INTO OR INSIDE THAT CIRCLE NOT HAVE TO WILL BE THINK OF THE AMAZING ABILITIES THAT YOU HAVE. DID YOUR DECISION UP THERE.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR OUR OUR OUR OUR WORKERS, OUR ECONOMY THERE IS THAT WE CAN FILL THESE WE'VE SIGNED A LETTER OF INTENT ON A BUILDING THAT DOESN'T EXIST CAN'T DO MUCH MORE THAN THAT UNTIL YOU AGREE THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY. SO I WOULD VERY MUCH ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I'M SURE THIS HAVE BEEN MADE IN YOUR MIND BUT RETHINK AS YOU SIT THERE AT THE DESK AND THINK ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR CANVASING. KATIE ANDERSON GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS LEE HENDERSON AND THEN THE HILTON HEAD PLANTATION .

I JUST CAME THIS MORNING TO TALK JUST A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING.

ACCORDING TO THE 2017 VIEW HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT TO SATISFY THE DEMAND FOR

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MANY TRANSPLANTS WILLING TO PAY A PREMIUM TO LIVE IN LOW DENSITY COMMUNITIES.

OVER THE YEARS THE TOWN GAVE ME THAT VISION ALIVE. I AGGRESSIVELY PURCHASED THE LAND FOR PRESERVATION PURPOSES AT THE 2028 PRESS ON THE TOWN HUNDRED AND 25 ACRES CAN BE AS OR A DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDITION NEARLY THREE QUARTERS OF THE ISLAND IS AT HIGH CAPACITY BY LAND UNIT DEVELOPMENTS, PLANNING DEVELOPMENTS AND OVER 70% OF LAND ON THE ISLAND IS LOCATED WITHIN A FEW. MOST OF THE PD IS ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE TOWN WAS INCORPORATED AND RECEIVED OUR DEVELOPMENT FUNDS THROUGH BEAUFORT COUNTY. THESE ARE COMMUNITIES WITH PREDETERMINED AND LOT CONFIGURATIONS AND THERE IS NOT AVAILABLE AND INCREASED DEMAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT CHANGING THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AND FACTS OF SEEING THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE.

THAT'S STUFF THAT INCREASE LAST YEAR 51 SINCE SO FEW GREENSPACE AND REDUCED HOUSING AGAINST THE REST THAT YOU WILL LISTEN ROXANNE PETERS GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU TO THE PLANNING COMMITTEE VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME THIS MORNING MY IS ROBERT PETERS.

MY WIFE AND I AT ONE GREAT REGENT ROAD IN SEA PINES AND JUST LIKE EVERYBODY HERE WE LOVE THAT ISLAND VERY, VERY MUCH. AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT ALL THE FAMILIES THAT COME HERE, IT'S REALLY WHAT IS THE BEST WEEK OF THEIR YEAR FOR VACATION.

WE LOVE TO SEE THAT DYNAMISM AND WE KNOW THAT THAT ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT COMES HERE PROVIDES ALL OF US WITH GREAT BENEFITS AND WE LOVE TO SEE FAMILIES HAVING A GREAT TIME HERE. BUT AS WE ALL KNOW AND AS I THINK IT'S BEEN WELL LAID OUT BY MANY OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS ALREADY THIS MORNING THIS DOES BRING PROBLEMS WITH CONGESTION AND RISING ONTO THE ISLAND AND UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THAT'S ALL OF THE WONDERFUL WOMEN AND WHO WORK ON OUR BEHALF AND ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THESE VACATIONERS IN FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND RETAIL AND THE HOTEL INDUSTRY IN THE TRADES STRUCTURE, THE LIFEGUARDS MANY OTHERS. HARDER THAN IT DOES US. AND HAVING WORKED IN NEW YORK CITY FOR TEN YEARS SO I KNOW A LOT ABOUT BEAUTY AND I THINK A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE PROBABLY TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE MUTE MIGHT EVEN BE MORE STRESSFUL THAN THEIR ACTUAL JOB ONCE.

THEY GET HERE AND DO THEIR JOB. AND SO I VIEW THIS PROJECT AS SOMETHING THAT CAN REALLY ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THAT STRESS TRAFFIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY.

THREE THINGS IN PARTICULAR I REALLY LIKE NOT THIS PROJECT AND WOULD LIKE TO LEND MY VERY STRONG SUPPORT FOR NUMBER ONE LOCATION AS HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED.

AND ONE PATIENT CARE ABSOLUTELY IDEAL FOR SO MANY OF THESE GOOD MEN AND WOMEN TO WITNESS AND WORK OUT ON THE SOUTH END OF THE ISLANDS LIKE NEW SPINE AQUARIUM KEEP ISLAND SPORTS IN ALL OF THE SOUTH ISLAND JUST AN ABSOLUTE IDEAL LOCATION. NUMBER TWO THE PARTNERSHIP WITH US AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT THE DOCTORS TODAY TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND IT THERE'S NOT ONLY THE STUDENT HOUSING, THERE'S SHARED PARKING ON IT AND I DRIVE AND FORTH ON THE PARKWAY ONCE EVERY WEEK. MY WIFE AND I DO WE COME OUT OF THE SHOP AT WORK HERE AND ALWAYS SEEING THAT VERY BEAUTIFUL OUT SO BEAUTIFUL THERE BUT THE PARKING LOT IS LARGELY EMPTY AND SO I JUST THINK THIS IS SMART IT'S JUST A SMART USE OF OPEN SPACE. SO I LOVE THAT. AND THIRD AND FINALLY THE

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THE REST WILL BE BORN WHEN. BUSINESSES IS PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS NOT TAX.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WE TAXPAYERS ARE ASKED TO FUND FOR CENTRAL STREET MORE PROJECTS MORE FULL TIME AND RIGHTLY SO BUT THIS RESTAURANT GROUP AND THE ANSWER TO THE COMMITMENTS AND MIKE TURNER. MY NAME IS MIKE TUCKER I LIVE IN A METAL HALL AND WE DO A BUNCH OF OUR GOVERNMENT SET $3.3 BILLION FROM THE HOUSE AND SOME I OBJECTED TOWN ENTANGLEMENT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND FAVOR OF PRIVATE SECTOR SOLUTIONS FOR VERY GOOD REASON WE DON'T EVEN KNOW. THANKS FOR TEACHING THIS FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION THAT'S AN EXAMPLE FOR CASE OF 5.3 MILLION IN GRANTS STATE AND COUNTY FOR ONLY 3.5 MILLION OR 65% GOES TO THE BENEFICIARIES REGARDING THE HOUSING COST AND THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT POSITION WILL COST TAXPAYERS ALMOST 400,000 EVERY YEAR FOR SALARY AND BENEFITS. THAT'S ALMOST DEPARTMENT CITATIONS AND COMPLEX COMPLIANCE PAPERWORK MUCH OFFICE SPACE MIXED USE COST TAXPAYERS ZERO TO ONLY ADDRESSED ONCE THERE ARE PLAYERS WHO HAVE ABSOLUTELY STANDING OF THEIR EMPLOYERS BUT MR. PARKER MR. MARKS PROVIDED THE MODEL FOR EMPLOYEES TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN WORKERS IN A JOB POSTING FOR THE HOUSE MANAGER POSITION OFFERS A SALARY OF $150,000.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE WITH ALL THE WAS WHICH PAID FOR WITH THE OFFICE WITH A MIXED USE PROJECT THEY DON'T THE GOVERNMENT FUNDING THEY JUST WANT THEY THINK OUR FINAL COMMENT JIM LEVESQUE MORNING THANK Y THE DANGERS POSED BY THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER ARE DIFFERENT ON WHICH BUT FOUR YEARS AGO THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL SOMETHING I WANT TO KNOW WE TELL FROM THE LAW 140 MILLION BUT IT'S 10% MORE WHAT THAT'S NOT DON'T WANT IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO HAPPEN UNTIL WE ARE IN A WAY BY SOME OF AGAIN SO YOU TO GO TO ATTENTION BY THE CONSULTANT DOWN HERE I REALLY GOT INTO THE PRESENTATION BUT I CHOOSE COMPANY BY WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS WHAT I REFORM FOR A FEW YEARS THIS IS ONE OF THE HOW PEOPLE OF EUROPEAN OF THE 12,000 PEOPLE BLOCK ENGLISH ROUGHLY AND FAR MORE COULD TO TRAVEL I'M SURE YOU KNOW FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS SCHOOLS EVERYTHING SO LOOK IT'S THE DENSITY HOUSING BUT YOU HAVE A LOT IN DENSITY OBVIOUSLY NO PRESENCE OF ANY PROBLEMS OF HOW TO MAKE MORE MONEY PUT MORE HOW MUCH BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION YOU REALLY WANT TO PROPERTY THEY UNDERSTAND YOU ARE LOOKING AT LOOK AT THE BUSINESS WHICH HAVE THE RESPONSE WHY THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS THIS WORK TOGETHER THIS IS AN ECONOMIC ISSUE THIS IS A BEST IT'S FINE A THOROUGHNESS I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT IS A QUICK BUSINESS THE TIME DO WHAT MOST IMPORTANT TO ME IS I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE TARGETED AS TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH I'M NOT GOING TO TRY AND SCRATCH GET WHAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THE THIS MIGHT BE COMING FROM FROM OTHER PEOPLE COMING IN DON'T YOU DON'T WANT

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THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THE SHAPE THAT OUR FIRST ITEM

[6.a. Presentation and Discussion on the Creation of Hilton Head Island District Plans and Land Management Ordinance (LMO) Updates – Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager, Community Development]

WE HAVE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS HERE SINCE HER LAST MEETING. THIS COMMITTEE SUPPORTS OUR EFFORTS THE RESILIENCE PLAN THAT WILL GO OUT TOMORROW ON THE STREET AND ON MY BRIEF COUNCIL THE OTHER NIGHT I BELIEVE A A THAT ARE DOING MOST OF THE WHILE TOMORROW SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD I TO TALK ABOUT KINDS OF EFFORTS THIS COMMITTEE ALSO ASKED US TO ACCELERATE SOME MORE STEPS FOR A I REVIEWED THE FINAL DRAFT YESTERDAY WE REVIEW AND ANTICIPATE AND WE'LL HAVE HAVE OVER TIME IS THAT I THAT'S IN THERE IT'S A 30 DAY NOTICE REQUIREMENT FOR PLANNING COMMISSION SO THAT PLANNING PROCEEDING I MOVED THAT FORWARD AND THEN WE'RE WORKING ON THAT BALANCING PHASE FOR TO BRING THAT FOR LATER THIS SUMMER FOR ADVERTISMENT WE WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE BRINGING ON A DATE CONSULT AND WE'LL HAVE AN RFP GO OUT NEXT WEEK TO IN A CO-WRITER. THE WHOLE THING IS ONE OF THE BIG OVERALL AND SO WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS PROGRESS AND WE'LL KEEP ON OUR TIMELINE.

THIS IS A RELATES TO THOSE EFFORTS THAT DISTRICT PLAN FRAMEWORK AND THIS PLAN WE PLAN IT AT ANY TIME A DRAFT MAP AND WE'VE WORKED TO REFINE THAT ON SOME OF THE DISTRICTS THAT WE PLAN TO ASSESS AND I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. IT'S VERY NEW PROFESSIONAL PLANNER OUR STAFF SINCE THE LAST MEETING AND A COUPLE OF STAFF ON THAT.

SO ONE THING OUR INTERNAL CAPABILITY TO DELIVER YOUR ACTION PLAN ITEMS AND THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US AND WE'VE ALSO INCREASED THE CAPABILITIES AGAIN CONSULTING TO MOVE THESE THINGS FORWARD AT A MUCH QUICKER PACE AND SO THIS IS GOING TO COVER BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT FIRST DISTRICT WHICH MEANS IT'S OUR LOCAL HUNTSVILLE SPEND AS WELL AS THE PRIORITY DISTRICT AND WE PLAN TO YOU A DRAFT BACK IN JULY AND THEN THE BREAK IS REALLY FROM THE ISLAND WETLANDS ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO RIVER OR BELOW TO THE SEA PINES SURF AREA BRINGING THAT DISTRICT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TEAM INTERNALLY AND OUR TEAM WITH OUR PARTNERS DELIVERS THAT TO YOU JUST TO BE GOTTEN ON THAT TIMELINE. SO IF YOU LIKE TO COME UP TO SHARE HER THOUGHTS MY PRESENTATION ON THIS YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO SHARE THANK YOU SO I WANT YOU THAT I WANTED TO SHARE OTHER THAN REALLY THE TIMELINE THAT WE KIND OF THE MEMO WAS THAT WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING THE DRAFT MORE JUSTICE BACK TO ABC IN JULY AND THE BRIDGE TO EACH DRAFT SORT OF PLANNING DOCUMENT FOR REVIEW IN AUGUST.

SO REALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE INITIAL FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE TWO DISTRICTS AND THAT THE FIRST KIND OF REVIEW WOULD PROVIDE SPIKE QUESTIONS WHEN ONCE THE QUESTION I THINK I UNDERSTOOD MR. COLLIN TO SAY BRIDGE TO BEACH IS DOWN ACCORDING TO FINANCE SECRETARY UPON THAT THEY SEE PINE CIRCLE CLAUDIA BUT I UNDERSTAND IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CALLING ME CIRCLE IS THAT CORRECT OR? DOES IT STOP AT THE A CIRCLE OR SPEECH DISTRICT? OKAY.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A SEPARATE DISTRICT PLAN FROM SO IT'S NOT REALLY IT'S BRIDGE

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I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS A SEPARATE DISTRICT PLAN. OKAY, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. WHAT'S THE INTERACTION? HOW DO YOU IF WE'RE MAKING COMMITMENTS AND CONCEPTUAL COMMITMENTS TO BRIDGE TO THE BEACH AS IT'S DESCRIBED PORTILLO AND LATER ON IT'S GOING TO BE THE FORGE BEACH AREA.

HOW ARE THOSE TWO MESHING IN A TIMELINE WE HAVEN'T REALLY ESTABLISHED IN WHICH ORDER AFTER THESE TWO TWO ARE PRIORITIZED FIRST CERTAINLY THERE WILL BE A MASTER PLAN OVERALL WOULD KIND OF BE FOR ALL PLANNING FOR ALL DISTRICTS AND MAKE SURE THOSE INTERESTS BLENDING I MIGHT ADD MIGHT THAT IN THE BRIDGE TO THE BEACH THERE'S A DOTTED LINE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE BEACH SO THAT WE'RE AT LEAST UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACTS AT THAT TIME. THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT. WE SAID BEACH DISTRICT IN FOREST BEACH DISTRICT IS BECAUSE THERE'S A COMMONALITY WITH THE OCEAN OCEANFRONT CENTER AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL . THERE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHERE THE TRANSITION OR BELOW THE HEIGHT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND WE'LL MAKE CONNECTION AND LINK TO THE BEACH DISTRICT HOW IT CONNECTS TO TWO DISTRICTS MARSHES AND BRIDGE BEACH ARE VERY, VERY DIFFERENT. ONE MIGHT HAVE ECOLOGICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT BRIDGE TO THE BEACH AS THINGS LIKE DENSITY TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS ACTIVITIES SO ON AND SO HOW DO THOSE THINGS GET INTEGRATED INTO CONSULTANT'S PROPOSALS? IS THERE ARE THERE ADJACENT STUDIES BEING DONE ON TRANSPORT NATION ON OTHER THINGS OF LAND USE AND SO ON? THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE SYSTEMS THAT IMPACT ENTIRE ISLAND AND THEN SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THOSE SEGMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS AND PURPOSES LIKE THE MARSHES DISTRICT BECAUSE IT'S A SENSITIVE MORE OF A CONCERN OF THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND THEN THE BRIDGE EACH DISTRICT BECAUSE OF ITS MORE ECLECTIC BRANT HAS SOME AREAS THAT AS BECAUSE IT HAS A DIFFERENT MIX USERS AND SO THE GOAL TO USE THOSE TWO DISTRICTS AS THE MODEL FOR THE REMAINING FIVE BECAUSE MOST OF THE REMAINING FIVE WILL CHARACTERISTICS THAT ARE TYPE ONE OR THE OTHER AND SO WE'LL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT INFORMATION TO HELP GUIDE THE SPEED AND COMPLETE THE BALANCED DISTRICTS. I'VE NEVER BEEN THAT'S THE BRIDGE TO THE BEACH ALSO TIES INTO OUR BEACH MANAGEMENT PLAN AND OTHER THINGS THAT DEAL WITH THE CAPACITY AND PART OF MY CONSTITUENCIES IN THE SHIPYARD MORRIS BEACH AREA AND I'M ALREADY CALLS OVER TIME ABOUT CONGESTION AND SO ON SO I'M VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE TRAFFIC OF THE PROPOSAL AND MAY I JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE ONE THING THAT I WASN'T HEARING IN ALL OF THIS DISCUSSION WAS A CONCENTRATION ON FOCUSING ON THE IMPACTS TO OUR RESIDENTS.

SO NOT ONLY THOSE IN DISTRICT AND WARD THREE BUT ACROSS THE ISLAND UTILIZE THAT AREA.

SO THAT HAS TO BE A PRIORITY IN ALL OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS IS MOVING FORWARD LOOKING AT THE DISTRICT PLANS. ONE MORE FOLLOW UP. I THINK WE'VE SEEN THE FORCE MAPS I THINK OF THE DISTRICTS BUT BECAUSE IN MY HEAD I CONFLATING I GUESS TWO OF THEM I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL, MR. CHAIR, FOR THE STAFF TO SEND US THOSE DISTRICT MAPS AGAIN AND I KNOW NOW SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN NAMED SO THAT WE CAN CONNECT THOSE DOTS BECAUSE NOW OBVIOUSLY I'M ALWAYS CONFUSED AND SO I THINK BE HELPFUL TO SEE THE MAPS AGAIN AND AND SO WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE DISTRICTS ARE AND FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY MIGHT BE ON OUR WEBSITE BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO CALL THAT AGAIN WITH REGARD TO DISTRICT PLANNING AS ONE OF OUR MAJOR INITIATIVES.

THANK YOU. MAKE SURE WE HAVE THEM AND ALSO BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE AMONG THE COMMITTEE OF REGION TO PUT UP AND EVERYONE THAT'D BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU, DON.

AND I'M VERY WITH THE WAY THE DISTRICT PLANNING SEEMS TO BE ORGANIZED AND I LOOK FORWARD TO

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I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT WE BROUGHT UP ONE MEETING AGO MAYBE 2 MINUTES AGO ABOUT THE FOURTH LEG OF THE PROVISION OF THE ALAMO WE RAISED IN THIS COMMITTEE CONCERNS MORE FOR A RATIO FOR NATIONAL BUILDINGS AND SOME OTHER CITIES MIGHT UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ARE BEING ACCELERATED SO WE'LL BE HEARING ABOUT SUGGESTED WAYS TO APPLY THOSE IN OUR AUGUST MEETING.

SO I'M MAKING A PLAN TO ADVERTISE FOR THE RACHEL MARTIN COLLABORATION NEXT WEEK FOR PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING IN MID-JULY. SO FOLLOWING THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BUSY IN AUGUST ON THE TIMING. OKAY.

SO IT WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN JULY AND ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE THOSE AMENDMENTS. THESE ARE IMPORTANT MATTERS US AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORKING WITH ON ACCELERATING THE SCHEDULES. WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

WHAT'S UNDOUBTED THE SCHEDULE THIS COMMITTEE IN TOWN SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD WHAT THAT'S EXCELLENT LIKE YOU YOU VERY MUCH SEE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. IF I COULD SECOND MR. STANFORD, THANK YOU FOR ACCELERATING

[6.b. Consideration of Proposed Ordinance 2023-07 Amending Sections Title 16 of the Municipal Code of the Town of Hilton Head Island, the Land Management Ordinance, to Create a New Use Called Islander Mixed-Use within the Sea Pines Circle District – Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager, Community Development]

I WANT TO MAKE THESE COMMENTS AND LET'S SEE IN THE APPLE YOU CAN PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT WE'LL SEE HERE AGAIN. AGAIN THIS REQUEST IS FROM AN APPLICANT.

IT IS A REQUEST BY JOSH TAYLOR TAKE IT FOR A TEXT COMMITMENT SO A POLICY CHANGE AND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE IT'S A CHANGE PROPOSED TO FOUR SECTIONS THE DEVELOPER DOES HAVE A POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT IN MIND SHOULD THIS POLICY BE ADOPTED.

THIS PRESENTATION REALLY FOCUSES ON THE POLICY ANALYSIS OF THE PARTICULAR REQUEST NOT NECESSARILY ON THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF BUT BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU CONSIDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGE AND THAT YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS AS IT WAS STATED BEFORE THERE HAS BEEN A RANGE OF PUBLIC PROCESS THIS AMENDMENT IT TO GO TO THE ALAMO COMMITTEE BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND NOVEMBER THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD ITS HEARING IN DECEMBER OF 2022 AND WENT TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE JANUARY.

THE AMENDMENT HAS CHANGED QUITE A SINCE YOU SAW IT LAST THOSE CHANGES ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE SCREEN AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND IN THE MEMO THERE WERE NINE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AND ADJUSTED BY THE APPLICANT THROUGH SOME CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN STAFF AND APPLICANT TEAM TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED ALONG THE WAY THERE BEEN A CHANGE TO

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SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS YOU SPECIFICALLY ADDITIONS AND SO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE IN THIS CIRCLE DISTRICT AND HERE IS YOUR SIMPLE REQUEST SUMMARY THE REQUEST INCLUDES REMOVAL OF A DENSITY CAP AND AND IT INCLUDES UNDEFINED THAT'S LIMITED BY APPLICABLE DESIGN AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS SUCH AS HEIGHT AND PARKING. IT HAS ISLANDERS MIXED USE A PARKING REQUIREMENT AT 1.5 SPACES FOR DWELLING UNIT AND THEN SEPARATE PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL AT ONE FOR 500 GROSS FLOOR AREA. AND THEN THERE ARE A NUMBER OF USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT ARE OUTLINED HERE. THE COMING SLIDES OVER THOSE CONDITIONS ELSE I WON'T COVER THEM IN THIS SO THE REQUEST ALSO INCLUDED LETTERS OF INTENT I'M SURE BEACH SERVICES, BEACH HOUSE GROUP, BROWN DOG AND IN MANY OF THOSE UNITS OR SOME ALREADY I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO GO OVER THOSE ARE THE CONDITIONS THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC IF NOT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE.

I CAN DO THAT. SO THE USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT ARE WITH ISLANDERS MIXED USE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM AS SEPARATE PARKING SPACES FOR USE BY RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF A SHARED CAN MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF SHARED PARKING AND OUR EXISTING CODE ALSO THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT MAY USE SHARED PARKING ON EDUCATION USE PROPERTY IF OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES HOUSING IN A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT THE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION AND THE DEVELOPER AND THAT PARKING AGREEMENT MUST BE IN PLACE AT THE TIME THE DEVELOPER APPLIES FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT PERMIT THE OTHER CONDITION IS THAT THIS USE MUST BE PROPERTY WITHIN 500 FEET OF AN EDUCATION.

USE SHALL NOT BE A SHORT TERM RENTAL 15% OF ISLAND OR MIXED USE UNITS SHALL BE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS RENTED TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING UP TO 130% RMI FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT RENTAL WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS HAVE TO REMAIN IN THE FOR MINIMUM OF TEN YEARS FROM THE DATE OF THE INITIAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. ALSO THERE IS A MINIMUM AVERAGE UNIT SIZE OF 750 SQUARE FEET FOR DWELLING UNIT IS REQUIRED AND THERE'S A CALCULATION OF THE MINIMUM AVERAGE UNIT SIZE AS POPULATED BY THE BUILDINGS TOTAL GROSS FOR AREA LESS COMMERCIAL USE LESS NON HABITABLE AREAS ALWAYS MECHANICAL ROOMS DIVIDED BY THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS ALSO THERE IS A FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 0.68 THAT SHOULD NOT BE EXCEEDED AND A SITE COVERAGE NEXT 50% THAT CANNOT BE EXCEEDED AS WELL.

THE SITE COVERAGE INDEX IS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE LOT CLEARED BY THE BUILDING'S FOOTPRINT ALSO THAT THIS YOU SHALL A 10% REQUIREMENT IN FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE OR COMMON AMENITY SPACE AND ALSO THERE IF YOU USE SPECIFIC CONDITION REQUIRING AN ADJACENT STREET SETBACK THAT SHALL MEET OR EXCEED AN AVERAGE 35 FEET BUT THE APPLICANT ALSO INCLUDED SOME LETTERS OF INTENT THAT YOU SUPPLIED IMPACT ANALYSIS AND MASS SCALE FIT AS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.

THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS PREPARED BY ME AND IT WAS RATHER LENGTHY.

I'LL SUMMARIZE IT JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T READ ALL OF THAT. IT DID RECOMMEND THAT THERE WERE SOME SITE ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS THAT THERE IS ONE INGRESS AND ONE EGRESS LANE

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THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT HAD MIXED RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE CENTER OF THE DISTRICT IN THEIR GRANT SHOPPING CENTER AREAS IN OUR DRAFT GROWTH FRAMEWORK SEE FINE CIRCLE AREA HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A PRIMARY CENTER AND THERE MAY BE THROUGH THAT PLANNING PROCESS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MIXED USE. SO IN GENERAL MIXED USE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT PLAN DO ACCOUNT FOR INCREASED RESIDENTIAL DENSITY A MIXED USES AS WELL AS ALLOWING SHARED STRUCTURE TO SURFACE PARKING LOTS IN EXISTING CENTERS.

I WILL POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY INCREASE THAT WAS PROPOSED WHEN I WENT TO STATE WAS 12 TO 18 DWELLING UNITS AT 1 TO 3 STORIES.

AGAIN WE'VE NOT DONE THE ANALYSIS FOR THE PINES CIRCLE DISTRICT BUT JUST WANTED TO YOU THAT AS A POINT OF REFERENCE BUT AGAIN THE USE DEFINITIONS SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH JUST THE ANALYSIS BY EACH PIECES. OBVIOUSLY THIS AMENDMENT HAS A LOT OF COMPONENTS TO IT AND THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK SO AGAIN THE USE DEFINITION IS THE SAME AS THE DEFINITION FOR MIXED USE. HOWEVER MIXED USE ALLOWS ONE TO BE USE SPECIFIC FOR MIXED USE NOT ALLOW SHARED FOR KIND AGREEMENTS.

ABC I MIXED USE HAS AS OF THEIR USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT THEY WANTED TO ALLOW BUT OVERALL AS FAR AS USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE DISTRICT SUPINE CIRCLE ALLOWS A RANGE OF ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT PERMITTED WITH ISSUANCE OF IT WITH SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS AND RESIDENTIAL SERVICES FOR CIVIC OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE AS WELL AS SOME INDUSTRIAL USES ARE ALLOWED IN THIS DISTRICT SO IN GENERAL AS MIXED USE IS ALREADY ALLOWED GENERALLY SPEAKING ISLANDERS MIXED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH LET'S SEE PRINCIPAL USES MR. CHAIR I'M SORRY ONE OBSERVER JUST WHEN I THINK THAT'S REALLY BECAUSE WE'RE CONSIDERING A TEXT AMENDMENT AND LOOKING AT THAT RANGE OF USES ALLOWED NOW AND SO YOU CAN CIRCLE DISTRICT AND THE FINDING STAFF HAS MADE THIS IS THIS MIXED USE ISLAND MIXED USE IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER A TEXT AND THEN THANK YOU SHARE YOUR PARKING AGAIN SEE FRIENDS CIRCLE DISTRICT ALLOWS MIXED USE AND AGAIN I'M ONE OF THOSE USED SPECIFIC CONDITIONS FOR MIXED USE IT'S NOT TO ALLOW NON PARKING SPACES FOR RESIDENTIAL USE TO BE PART OF A SHARED PARKING PLAN ISLAND OR MIXED USE OF COURSE THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN DIFFERENCES IS THAT IT IS ELIGIBLE BE INCLUDED IN A SHARED MARKETING PLAN THEY ALSO ADDED A CONDITION THAT IS IS LISTED THERE THAT THEY MAY USE YOUR PARKING AND EDUCATION USE ON PROPERTY IF PROPOSED

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HOWEVER WE DID HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATION STAFF TO SLIGHTLY CHANGE THE WORDING OF CONDITION THAT'S PROPOSED BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE WE ALREADY REQUIRE AN AGREEMENT IT'S REDUNDANT AND THE THIRD THE FOURTH POINT ABOVE TO ALL THAT'S YOUR PARKING AGREEMENT IS REQUIRED AS IT'S A REQUIREMENT ALREADY IN 65.7 H THREE SO WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE SPECIFIC CONDITION PEOPLE TO OR SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM MIXED USE VOTING THEY SHARED PARKING ON EDUCATION USE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT BUT STUDENT SO ONE OF THE OTHER SPECIFIC CONDITIONS IS A PROXIMITY AN EDUCATION USE PROPOSAL IS THAT IT'S ISLANDER MIXED USE IS ELIGIBLE IF THEY'RE WITHIN 500 FEET OF AN EDUCATION USE AS WELL AS IN THE C PINE CIRCLE DISTRICT THERE JUST FOR CLARIFICATION SO THAT ANY PORTION OF A LOT THAT HAS THE BOUNDARY TOUCHING IT IS ELIGIBLE FOR THIS TEXT AMENDMENT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND SO THERE ARE 23 PARCELS WITHIN 500 FEET ARE ALSO IN THE SAME DISTRICT ALSO BASED ON SOME WALKING AND LIKE TOLERANCES IT IS REASONABLE TO WALK OR BIKE BETWEEN 501,500 FEET IN A RESIDENTIAL UNIT PRIMARY JUSTIFICATION ALSO WITHIN THE USE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING AGREEMENT 500 FEET IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THAT PARTICULAR SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT SO IT COINCIDES WITH SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS STANDARDS FOR SHARED PARKING.

SO THERE IS SPECIFIC CONDITION TO PROHIBIT SHORT TERM RENTALS AND SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE DEFINED IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE SHORT TERM PROPERTY SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTY MEANS ANY PROPERTY IN THE MIDST OF THE TOWN OF SOUTH CAROLINA THAT AND MORE OR IN PART IS OFFERED FOR LEASE OR OCCUPANCY UNDER A LEASE OR ANY OTHER FORM OF AGREEMENT FOR PERIODS OF LESS THAN 30 DAYS. SO THE BALANCE OF THE SUPINE SUPPORT DISTRICT TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES ARE ALLOWED WITH THE SHORT TERM PERMIT CERTAINLY A SHORT TERM RENTAL USE INTENSITIES ARE GENERALLY GREATER THAN RESIDENTIAL USE INTENSITY AND WORKFORCE HOUSING REQUIREMENT DOES SUNSET BUT THIS PROVISION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS AS PROPOSED IN THE POLICY DOES NOT SUNSET SO ONE WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE PROPERTIES OR UNITS THAT ARE ON THE LONG TERM MARKET AND DON'T TRANSITION OVER TO SHORT TERM.

THERE'S A WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT IN THE USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS IT DOES DIFFER FROM THE TOWN'S WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM IN A COUPLE OF WAYS AND THEY'RE OUTLINED HERE ONE IT'S THE PERCENT OF UNITS IN WORKFORCE HOUSING THEY'RE OPPOSING THE SPECIFIC CONDITION 15% OF THE UNITS AND WORKFORCE HOUSING THE TOWNS PROGRAM REQUIRES 20 THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME PROPOSED IN THIS AMENDMENT IS UP TO 130% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME FOR FOUR COUNTY TOWNS WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM AS IMA IS FOR RENTAL UNITS THAT RANGE BETWEEN 60 AND 80% IN OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS BETWEEN 80% AND ONE F AS WELL AS THE TERMS OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT UNDER MIXED USE TERM IS AT THE UNITS ARE ACCEPTING WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT FOR TEN YEARS AND THE TOWNS IS 30 YEARS AND THEN THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IS THE DENSITY ISLANDER MIXED PROPOSAL IS UNDEFINED DENSITY WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THIS DISTRICT IS ALLOWED THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL CONVERSION WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM IS BASED ON THE EXISTING BUILDING ENVELOPE AND THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF SIZES THAT ARE IN THE CHART IN THE TABLE WITHI THE CODE AND SECTION 1610 THERE'S A CONDITION RELATES TO THAT MINIMUM AVERAGE UNIT SIZE MINIMUM AVERAGE SIZE OF 750 SQUARE FEET PER DWELLING UNIT IS REQUIRED AND WHAT THIS CONDITION DOES IT REGULATES UNIT SIZES A DEVELOPMENT

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THE REST OF THE PROJECTS THAT SIT HERE EXCEED THE FLOOR AREA RATIO PROPOSED SO THE SEABROOK AQUA TERRA COURTYARD MARRIOTT ONE WALK ONE TWO CYPRESS IN THE NATURE HAVE SOME PICTURES THEY WILL SHOW SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS AND THEN SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE 500 FOOT RADIUS WHERE THIS ALSO IS FOR WE ANALYZED TO DISCOVER THE CONTEXT IS CURRENTLY OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT WITHIN 500 FEET CERTAINLY THERE ARE LOW ETHNIC HOURS WITHIN THE AREA AND ONLY ONE OF THEM EXCEEDS FOUR AARON RATIO THAT'S THOSE ARE SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT GO ALONG WITH THE VARIOUS AREA RATIOS. HERE ARE SOME OF THE BUILDINGS ON OFFICE BAY AND THE ASSOCIATED FOR AREA RATIOS OF .27.2517 THIS IS 32 OFFICE PARK LOOKING FOR A RATIO OF .36 SEABROOK FOR A RATIO OF 0.76 OTERO IS A COLLECTION BUILDINGS FOR 4.82 THE COURTYARD BY MARRIOTT IS A FOR AREAS OF 1.6 OR WALK ONE FOR A RATIO OF ONE POINTING TO OR TWO OR AREAS 2.0 FOR FOR INSTANCE OPERATIONS 2.79 BAYSHORE 3.69.

MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SO YOU GO ON TO THIS CHART.

APOLOGIZE. I'M ASKING YOU A MATHEMATICAL COMPUTATION THAT YOU HAVEN'T DONE BUT IN LOOKING AT SOME MORE HOUSING FOR FOR AREA RATIOS THAT BLODGET JUST US HAVE YOU DONE AN AVERAGE OF WHAT THOSE WOULD BE AND IT APPEARS IT WOULD BE CLOSER ONE IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE THAT MATHEMATICAL COMPUTATION AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO IT IN YOUR HEAD RIGHT NOW BUT CAN YOU GO BACK TO THOSE LAST THREE OR FOUR SLIDES THAT ACTUALLY SHOW HOUSING HERE AREA RATIO. YEAH KEEP GOING. YEAH, GO FORWARD.

OKAY SO OUT THERE. SEABROOK SO FOR INSTANCE, THAT ONE IS 0.76 AND THEN GO THE NEXT ONE. THEN WE GOT 0.82 AND YOU CAN SAY THAT THE MOTEL AND HOTEL WIND AND WATER MARK IS 1.82 AND IN THE NEXT ONE WHAT WATER WHAT TWO AND ANYHOW YEAH IT'S COMPLICATED CALCULATION BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY JUST LOOKING AT IT IT APPEARS THE FLOOR IS ABOVE THE AVERAGE SO THAT'S MY POINT THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE AND GET READY TO SHOW MATRIX IT'S IMPORTANT REMEMBER THAT EXISTING HOUSING THAT YOU'VE SHOWN IN THESE SLIDES IS AT LEAST 1.0 AND IT GOT THE AVERAGE BUT IT'S COMPLICATED BECAUSE IT'S THE AMOUNT OF LAND IN THE PARCEL THAT WELL DRAMATICALLY VARYING CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH REGARD TO YOUR AREA RATIO SO AND THEN THE OFFICE AREAS APPEAR TO BE A LOWER FLOOR AREA

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SO IN TO A FOUR AREA RATIO APPLICANT'S PROPOSING A SITE INDEX.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS BOTH BOTH THE FLOOR AREA RATIO AND THE SITE COVERAGE 0.68 YOUR AREA RATIO IS AND YOUR COLOR CODED THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE COVERAGE INDEX A SLIGHT COVERAGE INDEX 50% IS WHAT IS PROPOSED NOT TO EXCEED 50%. AGAIN THAT IS THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT ON THE SITE SO THAT THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT ITSELF CAN EXCEED 50%.

BUT LET ME ASK THE QUESTION JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE ALAMO ALSO HAS A SITE COVERAGE THAT ISN'T JUST BUILDING ITS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE TENDS TO WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE PARKING ISN'T INCLUDED IN THIS PARTICULAR DEFINITION. THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE WOULD COVER ANY PARKING OR OTHER STRUCTURES OR LACK COVERAGE SO THAT PERVIOUS COVERAGE LIMITATION WITH ALL ITS IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE AND THIS DEFINITION OF OF SITE COVERAGE AND THEN IF YOU ARE WORKING TOGETHER THEN THE QUESTION ON THE HOUR AND THE SITE COVERAGE THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE CASE OF SITE COVERAGE HOW MUCH OF THE BUILDINGS YOU'RE GOING TO OCCUPY ARE THE LAND AND IN THE CASE OF THE FLOOR AREA RATIO YOU COUNT THE STORAGE OF THE BUILDING AND THEREFORE WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON THE LAND IS THAT A FAIR DISTINCTION? SO FLOOR AREA RATIO IS THE TOTAL GROSS FLOOR AREA DIVIDED BY THE LOT SIZE AND THE SITE COVERAGE INDEX IS JUST FOOTPRINT SO IT'S REALLY JUST THE FIRST FLOOR FOOT FOOTPRINT VERSUS MASS.

YEAH. AND SO THAT'S THEY'RE DIFFERENT MEASURES BUT ALL OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE IMPACT ON THE SITE AND THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. AND IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, THE SITE ALSO HAS SETBACKS AND BUFFERS AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS AS WELL THAT ALL ALL ARE REQUIRED ADDITION TO THESE ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED. I DON'T SEE WHEN GET DOWN TO THE DESIGN ASPECT OF IT IN TERMS OF PERVIOUS IMPERVIOUS THAT'S WHERE THE RECOMMENDATION OR THE NECESSITY BECOMES WHAT TYPE OF SURFACE PARKING ON AND WHAT TYPE OF OTHER AMENITIES THERE MIGHT BE AND WHETHER OR NOT THEIR ABILITY TO ABSORB WATER RUNOFF ETC. IS THAT CORRECT OR IS THE DESIGN COMES NEXT WITHIN THAT REQUIREMENT OF IMPERVIOUS IMPERVIOUS THAT WILL BE CRITICAL IN TERMS FOR THAT PURPOSE FOR IMPERVIOUS I GUESS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH OF THE LAND IS COVERED BUT THEN I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH HOW MUCH OF THAT LEFTOVER LAND IS IS AVAILABLE FOR ABSORPTION PERVIOUS ABSORPTION WHAT OR SO THE STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS THAT APPLY ALL DEVELOPMENT WOULD STILL APPLY SO THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO MANAGE STORMWATER AND MEET ALL OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE CODE THAT'S NOT RESTRICTED. THIS ANALYSIS OF 50% OR OR BETTER I SEE THAT IT'S PROPOSED AT 17% AND BUT THE YOUR IS NOT RESTRICTED BY ANYTHING THAT WE SEE HERE IN TERMS OF BUILDING MASS SCALE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT LABEL IS INCORRECT IT'S PROPOSED AT 50% THE SITE COVERAGE INDEX BUT THAT IT'S NOT OUR REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF PERVIOUS LAND IS NOT RESTRICTED OR COMPROMISE BY THIS AMOUNT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET ALL THERE TO BE BALANCED MEANING ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS USE THE USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS AS WELL AS THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE DESIGN BECOMES AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT LATER OKAY JUST WANTED GET TO THAT TO OPEN SPACE THEIR PROPOSING A SPECIFIC CONDITION THAT REQUIRES 18% FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE OR COMMON AMENITY SPACE CURRENTLY SECOND CIRCLE DISTRICT ONLY REQUIRES OPEN SPACE IF IT'S A MAJOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT CASE 16% IS REQUIRED SO IF THIS WAS A REGULAR BY RIGHT MIXED USE THERE WOULD NOT BE AN OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. THIS ADDS ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE TO THE DEVELOPMENT BUT IN TERMS OF WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DESIGN RIGHT YOU

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FOR A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT AND NOTHING CHANGES WITH THAT. SORRY MR. CHAIR, ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE PHRASED 10% FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE OR A COMMON AMENITY SPACE.

SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND OPEN SPACE BUT IS COMMON AMENITY DEFINED SO THAT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPEN IF YOU HAVE A SWIMMING POOL OR A RACQUETBALL COURT, IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE OPEN SPACE OR NOT? AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S CLEAR. THE INTENT WAS THAT IF THEY RACQUETBALL TENNIS COURT THAT THAT COULD BE PART OF THEIR COMMON AMENITY SPACE OR KNOW OPEN SO IT COULD BE EITHER A LAWN AREA THAT AVAILABLE TO THE TENANTS OR USERS OF THE SITE OR SOME SORT OF A COMMON AMENITY SPACE WOULD BE COMMUNITY BUILDING WITH A POOL BUT SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES USABILITY FOR A COMMON AMENITY FOR THE TENANTS. TO ME THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. OPEN SPACE IS CLEARLY OPEN SPACE.

IF YOU START ADDING A SWIMMING POOL AND A POOL BUILDING THEN THAT'S I MEAN YEAH THERE'S OPEN SPACE ABOVE THE WATER THE SWIMMING POOL BUT THAT'S MORE LIKE AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE SITE. SO ANYHOW MAYBE SOME CLARIFICATION ALSO BECAUSE THE ELEMENT NOW ALLOW A DETENTION FUND TO BE CONSIDERED OPEN SPACE ARE THESE SEPARATE ITEMS CURRENTLY DURING PLAN REVIEW WE'RE REQUESTING AT STORMWATER PONDS ARE NOT INCLUDED AS IN THE OPEN SPACE. HOWEVER THERE IS NOTHING THAT RESTRICTS THAT CURRENTLY IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL LOOK AT RECOMMENDING CHANGING IT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 10% OF AN AREA YET TO BE DETERMINED WHETHER IT INCLUDES RETENTION PONDS, WHETHER INCLUDES I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WET AREAS ON THIS BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ITS 10% IS GOING TO BE APPLIED TO THIS POINT NOT NECESSARILY THERE YES IT COULD BE OPEN LAW AN AREA IT COULD BE AGAIN LIKE A TENNIS COURT OR RACQUETBALL OR A PAVILION OR CARPET. ALL OF THESE THINGS SHOULD KNOW PSYCHIC'S COMING UP BEHIND YOU . OH, YOU'RE IN JOHN COLON GRAHAM ALSO THE ALAMO COMMISSION FOR THE TOWN I DON'T WANNA GET TOO DEEP INTO INTERPRETATIONS BUT I THINK A FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE OF REMODELING AGAIN IS NOT A FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE RIGHT. IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT FUNCTIONS PEOPLE AND SO IT WOULD BE THE ITEMS IN THIS HE HAD MENTIONED THERE SOME KIND OF AMENITY RECREATION RELATED OR OTHERS ACTIVE OR PASSIVE SO ANYWAY THAT WOULD BE HOW I WOULD HANDLE THIS PROVISION. THANK YOU ALSO I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT DESIGNS MOVING FORWARD WE'RE LOOKING AT PLACES CREATE COMMUNITY THAT IT'S NOT JUST A PLACE TO PARK YOUR CAR AND PUT YOUR HEAD AT NIGHT BUT A PLACE THAT CREATES COMMUNITY AND SO THAT'S THE WAY I SEE THAT SPACE ULTIMATELY PLAYING OUT THERE'S A SPECIFIC CONDITION THAT AN ADJACENT STREET SET BACK NATURALLY MEET OR EXCEED AN AVERAGE OF 35 FEET CURRENTLY SUPINE CIRCLE DISTRICT USES HAVE TO MEET THE SETBACKS PER OUR SET BACK TABLE ANOTHER STREET WHICH IS OFFICE WAY WITHIN 20 FOOT SETBACK OF MINOR ARTERIAL WHICH IS GREENWOOD WOULD BE 40 FEET. A MAJOR ARTERIAL SUCH AS POPE AVENUE WOULD BE 15 THEY THE LANGUAGE CURRENTLY SUGGESTS 35 FEET MEET OR EXCEED CERTAINLY THE MAIN ARTERIAL A MAJOR REQUIRE THOSE TO BE HIGHER SO WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT THE LANGUAGE BE CHANGED TO ISLAND OR MIXED USE REQUIRES AN ADJACENT STREET BACK THAT SHALL

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WE LOOKED AT OR CREATED A FICTIONAL WORKFORCE HOUSING COMMERCIAL CONVERSION.

IT SHOWED 44 DWELLING UNITS AND RESULTED IN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE OF EFFECTIVE DENSITY.

THERE WAS THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT BY RIGHT CONCEPT THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED AND IT SHOWED 45 DWELLING UNITS AND WAS CAME OUT AT A TEN DWELLING UNIT FOR EFFECTIVE DENSITY AND THEN THERE ISLAND ARE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY HAVE AS A PROPOSAL IS FOR 133 DWELLING UNITS AND ITS EFFECTIVE DENSITY IS 31 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE SEE ME IT SAYS 5623 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL IS A RESTAURANT FAULT BECAUSE A RESTAURANT FALL UNDER RETAIL OR DO WE NEED A DEFINITE DO WE NEED A DIFFERENT WORD THAN RETAIL? YES THEY THEY WERE ANTICIPATING THAT BEING A RESTAURANT USE THAT'S A COMMERCIAL USE.

DOES THE ALAMO SAY DISTINGUISH BETWEEN RETAIL AND RESTAURANT? THAT'S AN EATING ESTABLISHMENT I THINK YOU WELL I'M RAISING THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE TEXT AMENDMENT SHOULD BE RESTRICTING THOSE TO RETAIL IF AN END USER WANTS TO DO RESTAURANT OR DO WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE GENERAL TERM? THE USED DEFINITION DOESN'T SPECIFY.

IN FACT IT COVERS IF IT WERE TO BE AN EATING ESTABLISHMENT. THE DEFINITION OR THE USE I'M JUST PICKING ON THIS ONE LINE WHERE IT SOUNDS BUT DOES IT USE COMMERCIAL NAME? SURE. SO THE USE IS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES OR MORE DIFFERENT USES WHICH SHALL INCLUDE MULTIFAMILY OR WORKFORCE HOUSING IN ONE OR MORE OF THE OFFICE USES DESCRIBED IN 1610 12341 OR MORE OF THE COMMERCIAL SERVICE USES WHICH IS AN EATING ESTABLISHMENT OR SOME COMBINATION THEREOF AND SEE IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS LINE I AM I JUST RAISED QUESTION BECAUSE I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO RETAIL WE'RE GOING TO REACH THERE AND THIS ISN'T VERBIAGE THAT'S IN THE CODE AND THE WAY THE CODE READS FOR NONRESIDENTIAL I THINK IT'S 10,000 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE SO DOESN'T REALLY DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE RESTAURANT READ THAT SO FOR THE ANALYSIS IT'S NOT CRITICAL HERE AND THEN THE CODE IF IT'S A RESTAURANT IT'S FINE THEY DID A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BEVERAGE SERVICE WOULD BE FINE RIGHT THIS NOT BEING A PLANNER I AM TROUBLED BY THE CONCEPT OF UNDEFINED DENSITY. I CAN'T QUITE GET MY HANDS AROUND THAT WILL THE FINAL DO DO THAT NUMBER AND THEREFORE DENSITY IS SOMETHING THAT IS SUBJECT APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL BY THE TOWN WHAT WELL AS PROPOSED IF MEETS ALL OF THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THEN IF

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WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS THE PROTECTION THAT IT CAN'T BE EXPANDED SO LONG AS IT FITS WITHIN PARAMETERS OF ALL THE CONDITIONS YOU'RE LAYING OUT THAT WILL DEFINE WHAT THE ULTIMATE DENSITY IS. YES, MR. CHAIR, I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT POINT HERE BECAUSE AS YOU SAY, DENSITY IS A MEASURE OF INTENSITY IF YOU WILL AND YOU DESCRIBE IT AS GUARDRAILS. SO I THINK IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL IF THIS IF THIS TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST MOVES FORWARD TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH REGARD TO INTENSITY ON A SITE.

AND THEN HERE ARE THE GUARDRAILS WHAT THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WILL BE USED TO CONTROL INTENSITY WITHOUT BECAUSE NOT A FAN OF NO DENSITY BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY WITH PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THEN THAT DOES GOVERN THE INTENSITY OF THE USE THE MASS, THE SCALE, THE HEIGHT OF THE SITE AND I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT FOR THAT TO BE COVERED HERE AND I KNOW SCHWARTZ HERE YOU KNOW OUR RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND DWELLING UNIT IS ONE DWELLING UNIT WHETHER IT'S 10,000 SQUARE FEET OR 400 SQUARE FEET. SO THE LIKE WHAT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE SMALLER UNITS AND SO THE AND THE EFFECTIVE DENSITY IS HIGHER AT 31 DWELLING UNITS BUT MAY BE SIMILAR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS SO A GOOD POINT BECAUSE I LOOK AT IT TWO AS ONE DENSITY IF YOU HAVE YOU THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT UNITS ONE YOU KNOW IF YOU IF THE UNITS 2000 SQUARE FEET FROM A MASSING SCALE IT'S THE SAME AS TWO 1000 SQUARE FOOT UNITS. SO I'M LOOKING AT MORE FROM INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT WHEN THE WHEN THE ALAMO WAS OVERHAULED YEARS AGO AND THE ALLEGANY DISTRICT RECOMMENDATION WAS TO NOT HAVE A YOU KNOW, NOT TO HAVE A CAP ON DENSITY.

WE DID A LOT OF AN EVALUATION TO DETERMINE WHAT THE BOX WOULD LOOK LIKE IF YOU DID IF YOU WERE TO REDEVELOP ALLEGANY PLAZA AND IT WENT TO ABOUT 15,000 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE RATHER THAN TEN WITH ALL OF THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND HAS A SLIGHTLY HIGHER HEIGHT.

SO CAPPING THE HEIGHT SETBACKS ,THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE PART OF THIS IN THIS USE CONDITION YOU KNOW, PAINT A BOX AND AND SO DENSITY IS TOUGH BECAUSE OUR DEFINITION UNIT IS PROBLEMATIC DENSITY SCALE BULK I THINK I THINK THIS IS THE SAME OR LESS INTENSE THAN WHAT COULD BE BUILT POTENTIALLY BY RIGHT THERE. BUT THERE IS THERE ARE THOSE SAFEGUARDS WHERE THE PERFORMANCE CENTERS THAT LIMIT THE OVERALL MASS SCALE.

THAT'S ONLY IF THAT'S AN ANSWER THAT YOU'RE THE HANDSOME THANK YOU AND I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DEFINITION OF THE UNIT BEING A PART OF THE ALAMO QUESTIONS.

SO HERE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME EFFECTIVE RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES OF OTHER SITES WATER WALK APARTMENTS AT SHELTER COVE ARE 23 AND 22 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE QUARTER AS 19 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE HARBOR TOWN OVERALL IS ABOUT 22 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

SO ALSO THIS KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS THE DWELLING UNIT DEFINITION THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED THE THE PROPOSAL THE APPLICANT TEAMS APPLIED FOR THEIR BUY RIGHT MIXED USE PROJECT THAT WAS MADE UP 24 TO 45 DWELLING UNITS WAS TO CONSIST OF 25 EIGHT BEDROOM UNITS AND 2012 BEDROOM UNITS.

SO YOU CAN THAT THOSE ARE LIKELY LARGER UNIT SIZES AND I THINK THAT ALSO THEY WERE ANTICIPATING WAS 440 BEDROOMS AS WELL SO THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT COULD OCCUR AND

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BUT CLEARLY THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT I THINK THE COMMUNITY WAS FOR IN 2014.

SO AS PART OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE BIT IN REACTION TO THE BUY RIGHT PROPOSAL RECOMMENDING THAT AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION BE ADDED TO THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO REQUIRE A MAXIMUM OF FOUR BEDROOMS PER UNIT FOR ISLANDERS MIXED USE.

PARKING REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S 1.5 SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT FOR RESIDENTIAL AND ONE FOR 500 FOR THE NON RESIDENTIAL .

THERE'S THE SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT ALLOWANCE AS WELL AS SHARED PARKING AND EDUCATION USE PROPERTY IF THERE IS STUDENT HOUSING AS PART OF A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT WE ALLOW SHARED PARKING PLANS IN THE CODE ALREADY THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS THAT ARE PART OF SHARED PARKING SECTION. SHARED PARKING PLANS ALLOW UP TO 50% OF PARKING SPACES TO BE USED TO SATISFY THE NUMBER OF PARKING REQUIRED PROVIDED THE USES GENERATE PARKING DEMANDS DURING DIFFERENT OF THE DAY OR DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE WEEK AND THEN A PARKING AGREEMENT REQUIRED AND THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED AMONG THE OWNERS OF LANDS CONTAINING THE USE AS PROPOSED TO SHARE THE PARKING SPACES AND IT GETS WITH DENVER COUNTY REGISTER OF DEEDS SO I ASK COMMISSIONER YET THAT I'M A FAN OF SHARED PARKING BECAUSE I LIKE LESS IMPERVIOUS AREA BUT THE CONTROL OVER THIS NOW THERE IS A DISALLOW SHARED PARKING THE PROPOSED TEXT THAT CORRECT AND THE ONLY CONTROL OVER THAT NOW AS TO MUCH OF IT CAN BE SHARED PARKING IS THIS 50% BASED ON DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY OR DIFFERENT ON DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK. SO WHAT'S TO PREVENT ALL OF IT FROM BEING SHARED PARKING FOR THIS CONTROL TEAM? WELL ONLY PERCENT OF THE REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING IS ELIGIBLE TO BE PART OF SHARED PARKING PLAN. SO SOMEONE IN AND SAY BUILT STUDENT HOUSING ON THE HALL SITE IF THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED AND I DON'T EVEN AT THIS POINT I CAN'T EVEN FIGURE THAT OUT IN MY HEAD. SO WOULD THAT MEAN THAT IF THERE'S SO MANY LET'S SAY YOU NEED 50 SPACES IN COULD 75 OF THOSE SPACES BE LOCATED IN AN IMPACT THAT NUMBER OF JUST A PART OF IT 75 COULD BE SHARED. BUT WHAT IF 300 SPACES WERE REQUIRED? COULD 150 BE SHARED IF IT MET THAT REQUIREMENT THERE THAT DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY AND DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK OR YOU ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TWO SITES IN IS THERE THAT A NUMBER OR QUANTITY OF PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE TO BE SHARED BASED ON THE USES AND WHAT'S REQUIRED THE SITE THAT IS MAKING SURE PARKING AVAILABLE SO THAT WOULD HAPPEN AT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW LEVEL AND WHEN THAT PARKING AGREEMENT IS REVIEWED AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE SURE OBVIOUSLY THE QUESTION IS YOU KNOW WHAT'S A MAXIMUM AND IS THIS ENOUGH CONTROL HERE SO EXISTING SITES THAT ALREADY HAVE PARKING THAT WOULD BE SHARED THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THEIR REQUIREMENTS FOR THEIR USE AND JUST ASK A QUESTION I GUESS IT'S A QUESTION I THINK A LOT OF IT WOULD BE LIMITED BY US AS WILLING TO OFFER UP.

SO AT SOME POINT THEIR OWN ANALYSIS TERMS OF WHAT THEY NEED FACULTY VISITING STUDENTS ,WHOEVER BECOMES PART OF THEIR CALCULUS AND I DON'T I CAN'T IMAGINE A THEY WOULD GIVE UP 100% OF THEIR PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AT LEAST IN MY MIND

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JUST TO MAKE YOUR POINT THE SHARED PARKING THE LINKAGE TO SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT AND STUDENT HOUSING IF IT'S ON EDUCATION, USE OWN PROPERTY. HOWEVER THE BOARD ABOVE THAT IS A USE SPECIFIC ADDITION. PARKING SPACES ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE ON EDUCATION USE PROPERTY BUT IF IT IS THEN IT HAS TO HAVE A STUDENT HOUSING COMPONENT. I SEE THIS AS EDUCATIONAL USE.

DOES THAT APPLY TO THE SCHOOL CAMPUS AT THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY ISLAND THAT IS ALSO IN EDUCATION USE? HOWEVER THIS ONLY APPLIES TO SEE PINE CIRCLE DISTRICT SO BUT YES ALL SCHOOLS ARE CONSIDERED AN EDUCATION USE OKAY SO THE HEIGHT THERE IS NO CHANGED TO THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT SO ALL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN CITY PINE IS LIMITED TO 45 FEET.

THERE ARE NO CHANGES PROPOSED TO PREVIOUS COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS THE MAXIMUM PERVIOUS COVERAGE ALL DEVELOPMENT IS 60%. AGAIN WE COVERED THE DIFFERENCES IN OPEN SPACE SO FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 16% OF OPEN SPACES REQUIRED MIXED USE DOES NOT REQUIRE OPEN SPACE IN THE THREE POINT CIRCLE DISTRICT AND THIS PROPOSAL IS PROPOSING 10% FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE OR COMMON AMENITY SPACE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS.

SO ALL OTHER REQUIRED SETBACKS BESIDES THE ADJACENT STREET SETBACK CONDITION THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ARE REQUIRED TO BE MET FOR THE THE SETBACK TABLES IN THE CODE TALKED ABOUT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING REQUIREMENT WORKFORCE HOUSING IS SUPPORTED BY A NUMBER OF DOCUMENTS THAT THE TOWN WE HAVE A 2019 WORKFORCE HOUSING STRATEGIC PLAN THAT INCLUDES A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS THE 2022 WORKFORCE HOUSING FRAMEWORK FINDING HOME AS WELL AS OUR PLAN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE ISLAND HAS A NUMBER OF HOUSING AND STRATEGIES AND TACTICS SO WORKFORCE HOUSING IS CERTAINLY IS THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR THE TOWN AND WE'VE REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW AGAIN. I'VE IDENTIFIED THAT THERE ARE SOME SLIGHT CHANGES DUE TO THESE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS FOR CLARITY PURPOSES AND THEN WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT FOUR BEDROOM MAXIMUM TO ADD IT'S AN ADDITIONAL WORK USE SPECIFIC CONDITION THEIR REVIEW OF STANDARDS FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND THAT YOU KNOW LOOKING AT A TEXT AMENDMENT AND ITS COMPATIBILITY WITH OUR COMP PLAN ALSO LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS COMMUNITY NEED CONSISTENT WITH ZONING A LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THAT IT WOULDN'T HAVE SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS ARE SOME OF THE THINGS CONSIDER WHEN MAKING A DECISION ON A TEXT AMENDMENT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IS ALSO GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AS WELL BUT THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF QUESTIONS TO MITZI AT THIS TIME. EXCELLENT JOB MISSY AND CONVERSATION AT THIS TIME AND GREAT THE TO COME FORWARD AT ONE MOMENT THANKS.

MY NAME IS GEORGE TILLER I WENT TILLER ASSOCIATE SOME LATE PLANNER ON THE PROJECT AND I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO BE AS BRIEF POSSIBLE WE HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND MISSY HAD A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION AND BETWEEN HER PRESENTATION AND SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT I'M GOING TO TRY TO BREEZED THROUGH MY PRESENTATION AND NOT REPEAT A LOT OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNER MR. DAVID DESPAIN LOUIS HANNEMAN

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I'M GONNA GO THROUGH SOME OF THE KEY ASPECTS OF THIS PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT AND THEN LATER I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH OUR ACTUAL SITE AND HOW IT COMPLIES WITH THIS TEXT AMENDMENT. SOME OF THIS I'M GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS TO SO I'M GOING TO BREAK THROUGH THIS THIS IS REDEVELOPMENT OF A BLIGHTED AREA I'M MR. AND THOUGH YOU'RE WELL AWARE SINCE YOU DO OCCUPY SPACE THERE IS A RESTROOM SPACE TENANTS THAT INCREDIBLY HIGH RENTS IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S NOT A GREENFIELD PROJECT IT'S REDEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA WHERE YOUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND KIND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR YOUR EMPLOYEES FOR HOUSING PROVIDING STUDENT HOUSING A NEW COURSE TO THE TAXPAYER IN THIS ONLY ENHANCE THE $20 MILLION INVESTMENT TOWN ME AND THE USC CAMPUS IT DOES ADDRESS A NEED FOR MOVIE HOUSE ITS MARKET BASED APPROACH THIS IS ONLY JUST SERVICE INDUSTRY FOR OUR STUDENTS IT'S FOR FUTURE END TIMES GRADUATES WHO ARE INTERNS. RECENT GRADS BE NURSES, FIREMEN TEACHERS ADJUNCT PROFESSOR THAT IP EMPLOYED VERSITY WE GOT BEYOND JUST THE SERVICE INDUSTRY THIS HOUSE IN A REMOTE BUILDING I DON'T COMMUTE AND IMPROVE TRAFFIC THAT ENCOURAGES TRANSPORTATION BY GUYS WE A LOT OF PARKING SPACE FOR CLIENTS AND I KNOW THE TOWNS LOOK LIKE A PLATINUM PRESENTATION ON THE LEAVE AMERICAN BY THE COAST THE TOWN AND THAT THIS WILL ONLY ADD TO THAT AN OPPORTUNITY IT'S GOOD FOR QUALITY SITE REDEVELOPMENT COME INTO COMPLIANCE CORRECT STORMWATER ORDINANCE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT WATER QUALITY IN THE AREA DOES ALIGN WITH YOUR DISTRICT PLAN FOR THE ISLAND AND I'LL GO INTO THE MORE DETAIL LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION I HIT ON SOME OF THOSE POINTS IT DOES PROHIBIT SHORT TERM RENTALS I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. WE HAVE LIMITED BUILDING MASSING AND THAT'S A FUNCTION OF INCREASED SETBACKS OR WHEN YOU SHOW INTO THAT AS WELL AND EXPAND THAT PROVIDE WORKFORCE HOUSE IN ACCORDANCE WITH PURPOSE HOUSING AND BRING THESE UNITS DEDICATED TO HOUSING OFFERING AFFORDABLE RENTAL FOR HOUSEHOLDS EARNING UP TO 30% THE AMA AND THAT'S FOR TEN YEARS IT DOES PRESERVE THE ISLANDS YOU MENTION I THINK THIS IS BRINGING SOME GUARDRAILS IN PLACE TO CONTROL THROUGH SETBACKS AND OFFERS A FAIR YOU HAVE AGREED TO STICK TO THE 45 HEIGHT LIMIT FOR BUILDINGS THAT'S DOWN FROM 24 WE HAVE SOME MISCUES YOU KNOW IT'LL FALL UNDER THE DISTRICT ZONING ZONING CHANGING

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THERE WAS A SLIDE EARLIER IN MRS. PRESENTATION THAT SHOWED SOME GREAT RATIO OF THE SOME OF THE OCEANS AND A LOT OF THEM WERE IN THE ONE FLOOR 2.21 THAT NAMES OF FOUR RATIO AND WE'RE TO BE FAIR A LOT OF ADJACENT PARTS OF ONE STORY YOU WHEN YOU FACTOR ONE STORY WE THOUGHT WELL IN THAT THAT SITE COVERAGE INDEX WHICH WOULD BE REFLECTED FROM ONE STORY BUILDINGS WERE THE COVERAGE INDEX IS 77 WHICH IS LOT LESS THAN SOME OF THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS WE PUT A LIMIT ON MAX AMOUNT OF THE SITE COVERAGE INDEX WHICH THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE BECAUSE. WE DO HAVE SEPARATE PARKING. I DON'T SEE IF WE'RE DOING SURFACE PARKING. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY EVER ACHIEVING THAT THAT 2% IT MIGHT BE A PARKING STRUCTURE MIGHT BE MOST LIKELY IN THE 70 TO 25% RANGE FOR THE SITE COVERAGE INDEX IS IT LIKELY ESPECIALLY MY IN PARKING STREAM THIS DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WILL BE BICYCLE FRIENDLY WILL COME UP TRAFFIC AND WALKABILITY BICYCLE FRIENDLY ANTICIPATE ELEVATED NUMBER OF STUDENTS PRESENCE AND PRIORITIZE TRANSPORTATION AND AND OF AS A RESULT OF WHAT THE POLICY INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 66 SPACES FOR BICYCLE AND BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE AND THIS WE WENT OVER TO THAT YOU SEE PLANS HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TO SEVEN ON TARGET ROAD JUST THIS THE AREA IT'S WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU DON'T SEE THERE'S VERY FEW CARS THERE SO THERE'S THERE'S ONLY FOUR CARS THERE BUT THERE IS AN ABUNDANCE LICENSE NOW SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

SO WE SEE THIS FUNCTIONALLY SIMILAR ESPECIALLY HELLO HERE ON THE ISLAND AND WE WE LOOKED THE DISTRICT PLAN IN PARTICULAR THE MIXED PORTION OF THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT OUR WORK PROPOSAL THIS USES THAT DISTRICT FOR DENSITY INSPECTION THAT WAS WE'RE 33 UNITS ON THE PROPERTY IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF MR. FUNCTIONS FUNCTION OFF SITE OF THE UNIVERSITIES AND IF YOU FACTOR THOSE UNITS OUT WE ACTUALLY DO FALL WITHIN THIS DESK FOR THE PROPERTY THAT'S JUST FACTORING OUT THOSE UNITS TIED TO THESE PARKING SPACES. WE DO NEED TO HEIGHT RECOMMENDATION THING THAT'S THAT'S SIT AROUND THE GUIDELINES DISTRICT THAT THE FAA HAZARD HERE IS YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALSO GET NATURE SOUNDS WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS ITEM SECTIONS YOU FIND IN THE ISLANDS ANOTHER THING THAT WAS INTERESTING WE DIDN'T RECOMMENDATIONS SHARED STRUCTURE OR EVEN SURFACE FLIGHTS THROUGHOUT THIS AWESOME

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NOW CONSISTENT WITH ZONING DISTRICTS AND ZONE SEE MUCH MORE INVOLVEMENT IN OUR DISTRICT NOW IT FALLS IN LINE THAT FUTURE MR. BECAUSE THIS REDEVELOPMENT NOT DEVELOPING HERE CERTAINLY THIS KIND OF ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE NATURAL JUSTICE EVERYONE HERE IS FAMILIAR WITH THE SITES THIS SEQUENCE OF GOLD GREENWOOD RISE HAPPENING THIS IS OF OFFICE AND OFFICE THIS RIGHT HERE IS OUR 4.3 SITES RUNNING FROM HIGH RISE PLUS ACCORDING TO OUR BONE DENSITY BACK IN OF COURSE THE U.S. BEACHFRONT HELPING HANDS TO THE SOUTH THIS BASIC PROPERTY DESCRIPTION IN THE CLOSING FIREWALL STANDARDS MISSING WENT THROUGH AS EARLY THIS IS CERTAINLY THE SITE EXISTING BUILDINGS HERE NOT IN GREAT CONDITION I GUESS BEING MENTIONED NUMEROUS TIMES THIS IS A VIEW PROPERTY IN FACT THESE HAPPENING HERE ON OFF WAY HERE TO BREAK THIS PORTION THIS EVENT TO HOST THE VEGETATED DEVELOPMENT THIS SLIDES ARE FOUND IN TOP OF THIS NEW OF THE INTERSECTION OF THIS PARK OFF THIS WAY WAS FOURTH YEAR YOU COULD SEE THE CAMPUS TO THE LEFT IN THIS EXISTING CANOPY TREES AND THAT'S A FUNCTION OF THAT ADDITIONAL BUS WE'RE PROPOSING OF THE ISLAND OF MIXED TEXT ANOTHER VIEW THAT

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I THINK I UNDERSTAND NOW THAT UNDEFINED DENSITY WHICH I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND BEFORE THIS IS STRAIGHT ME OUT ON THAT AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE THE OTHER CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS WHICH LIMIT WHAT THAT FACTORED DENSITY WOULD BE. THOSE CONCERNS ARE OUTWEIGHED BY THE POSITIVE FACTORS ABOUT THIS PROJECT IN MY MIND REDEVELOPING IT LATER TONIGHT OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE NEEDED FOR PROVIDING DWELLING SPACE FOR SERVICE WORKERS ON THE ISLAND WHICH IS SORELY NEEDED PROVIDING SOME WORKFORCE HOUSING.

I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE I'D LIKE TO SEE A LONGER TERM OF THAT AND CERTAINLY NO SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO I SEE A CREATIVE PROJECT I'M NOT REALLY READY AT THIS POINT TO SAY YES OR NO BUT I'VE SHARED WITH YOU SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT GOT AND YOU'VE ANSWERED MANY OF MY QUESTIONS SO THANK YOU EMMA. I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS WAS AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION. I HOPE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE PROJECT I THINK AS WELL AS WE DO AT THIS POINT THIS PROJECT IN MY MIND THE PURPOSE THIS PROJECT STATUS AS A NEED THE COMMITMENT THAT THE TOWN MADE SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO TAKE CONSTRUCTION TO COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND TO REHAB THEM AND WHATNOT TO REHAB AND PERHAPS RECONSTRUCT SOMETHING IN THEIR THAT WOULD SERVE THE NEEDS OF OUR WORKFORCE OR SERVICE INDUSTRY HOWEVER YOU DEFINED AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN ADDITION TO THE STUDENT HOUSING WHICH SINCE I'VE BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE FROM THE UNIVERSITY SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT AND WE COULD HELP. SO NOW WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT TO HELP THE UNIVERSITY GET THE STUDENT HOUSING THAT THEY NEED TO INCREASE THEIR ENROLLMENT. I'M ALWAYS PROUD THAT WE USC BEING HERE ON THE ISLAND AND I WANT TO CONTINUE PROSPER TO GROW AND BE SUCCESSFUL. I THINK IT'S THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY EVERY ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS THEY DO SO AND IN TERMS OF THE OFFICE, THE WORKFORCE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT IS IF NOT 100% WORKFORCE HOUSING CLOSE TO IT AND SO I'M NOT BOTHERED BY THESE 15 20% OR ANY OF THAT BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF INTENT OF THE PROJECT SATISFIES THAT FOR ME I'M GRATEFUL AND APPRECIATIVE THAT LIMIT WAS BROUGHT DOWN AS REQUESTED. THAT WAS A NON COMPROMISE THAT I WAS IN AND NOW IT'S SATISFIED I'VE MENTIONED I THINK THE ARCHITECTURE THE DESIGN WILL REALLY SPEAK TO WHAT IT IS THAT IF I HAVE ANY CONCERNS THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT IS THAT SATISFIES ALL OF WHAT IT JUST TALKED ABOUT IT HILTON IS IF ANY PLACE WE WANT THAT

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SO KEEPING THAT BUFFER, KEEPING THE BUILDINGS LOW AND CREATING A COMMUNITY REFLECTS VALUES AND IT AND ISN'T JUST AN INSTITUTIONAL BUILDING IS CRITICALLY SO THAT DESIGN ARCHITECTURE WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AS THIS PROJECT HOPEFULLY MOVES ALONG AND SO WITH THAT I WILL CERTAINLY COMMENT AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION AS HARD WORK FOR ACKNOWLEDGING OR HELPING US TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS READY AND WILLING WE JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM AND THAT'S WHAT I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THIS TYPE OF PROJECT SHOULD COME FROM OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING NEEDS ETC. IT NEEDS TO PROVIDE A PRIVATE WITHOUT HELPING TO SUPPORT THEM WITHOUT INVOLVING TAX. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. TAYLOR FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND AND THE STAFF AS WELL AND FOR THE WORK OVER TWO YEARS TO GET US TO THIS PLACE. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I LIKE ABOUT THIS BUT I HAVE TO CONFESS THAT I SPENT 31 YEARS OF MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE AS A ZONING AND LAND USE ATTORNEY SO FORGIVE ME IF I GET AT ANY TIME AND PART OF THAT IS TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT CONSIDERING AS OPPOSED TO WE'RE REVIEWING AND APPROVING PLAN IT'S NOT A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT. IT'S NOT CONSIDERED OF A PLAN.

SO I'M GOING TO STAY FOCUSED AS BEST I CAN ON THE TEXT ITSELF. SECONDLY, WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR AGREEING TO THE NINE CHANGES SINCE OUR JANUARY MEETING THAT MS. LLOYD POINTED OUT ON THAT I THINK IT WAS A SECOND PAGE OF HER STAFF REPORT.

I THINK THOSE NINE IN THE STAFF REPORT ON PAGE 14 THERE ARE THREE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE STAFF HAS MADE TO INCLUDE IN THE TEXT AND AND ARE YOU AND YOUR TEAM COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE THREE TEXT AMENDMENTS IS A QUESTION THAT I HAVE SIR AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO READ THEM OUT HERE SOME PERCENT OR TEN OF THOSE TO USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS NUMBER ONE WHILE UNDER MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THEY LIVE FOR PARKING EDUCATION, USE PROPERTY YOU HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES STUDENT HOUSING AND THE SECOND ONE IS ALL INDOOR MIXED USE AN ADJACENT STREET SET BACK THAT SHALL MEET OR EXCEED AN AVERAGE OF 35 FEET OR THE MINIMUM SET BACK DISTANCE REQUIRED TABLE 16 DASH 5-1 OR 2.2 WHICHEVER IS GREATER THOSE FIRST TWO DIFFERENT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE THIRD ONE IS AN ADDITIONAL USE SPECIFIC CONDITION FOLLOWS OTHER INDEX YOU SHALL REQUIRE A FOUR BEDROOM PER DWELLING IN AT MAXIMUM IS ALSO ACCEPTABLE WHERE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT WE FEEL THAT THE LIMIT ON THE 750 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM AVERAGE KIND OF PUSHES IN THAT PUTS US IN THAT POSITION THERE. I DON'T SEE US I THINK WE WOULD EXCEED THAT IF WE WENT BEYOND FOUR IN THE UNIT. SO WE'RE WE'RE CERTAINLY THINKING OF THAT.

FAIR ENOUGH. OKAY. SO THE OTHER THING TO SAY GENERALLY IS AGAIN THINKING JUST OF A TEXT AMENDMENT I LIKE THE CONCEPT A LOT BECAUSE I LIKE USE I LIKE SHARED PARKING AND A LIKE A LESS AND PERMEABLE AREA AS I'VE ALWAYS SAID ALSO LOOK FOR THE INTENSITY USE ON THE AREA AND I THINK THAT THE GUARDRAILS, THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT WILL HELP WITH THAT. I'VE NEVER BEEN A FAN OF NO DENSITY REQUIREMENTS AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT AND UNDER OUR EXISTING HMO I DO NOT LIKE IT SO I'M GLAD TO SEE ADDITIONS OR CONDITIONS WHICH HELP TO MONITOR THE INTENSITY AND THE USE IN THIS OWNING DISTRICT SO WHY I ALSO LIKE WORKING IN CONCERT WITH AN EDUCATION USE AND ALSO LIKE THE WALKABILITY OF THE COMMUNITY. BETTER DISCLOSURE IS I USED TO LIVE JUST OF HERE IN SOUTH FOREST BEACH BECAUSE WHEN I WALKED IN THIS AREA WE WALKED FROM WHERE WE LIVE IN SOUTH FOREST BEACH UP TO THE SHOPPING CENTER.

MAN WE WOULD GO TO MOVIE AT MAD PARK PLAZA. WE WOULD GO TO EAT DINNER EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER THE MOVIE AND THAT SAME AREA I BIKED OR WALK TO CBS PHARMACY

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I CONSIDER THIS TO BE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY AND I'M THAT THIS TEXT AMENDMENT CONSIDERS AS A WALKABLE COMMUNITY I HAD ASKED FOR A COMPARISON TO OUR MID ISLAND DISTRICT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ADOPTED THAT DISTRICT AND IT USES MIXED USE AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THE COMPARISON THAT THE STAFF PROVIDED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT AND THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM PROVIDING US WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BECAUSE WE WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS DISTRICT PLANNING AS YOU'VE HEARD US DISCUSS TODAY.

AND SO YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS SHOULD WE GO AHEAD WITH A TEXT AMENDMENT BEFORE WE DO A DISTRICT PLAN FOR THIS AREA. AND SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS TO LOOK AT HOW THIS TO MY DISTRICT READ ARLINGTON LINE WHEN CONSIDERING WALKABLE MIXED USE AND I SEE A LOT OF GOOD COMPARISONS I'VE NEVER BEEN A FAN AND IN ADDITION NO DC I'VE NEVER BEEN A FAN A ONE OFF TEXT AMENDMENT TO ADDRESS ONE PROJECT SO I'LL LOOK TO SEE USUALLY WHEN YOU MAKE A TEXT AMENDMENT YOU LOOK AT IS IT CAN IT BE REPLICATED IS IT IS IT TO ADDRESS MULTIPLE KIND OF SITUATIONS AND USES SO HENCE ME THINKING IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAN YOU REPLICATE IT AND OTHER DISTRICTS AND THAT'S WHY THE COMPARISON TO MID ISLAND WAS IMPORTANT TO ME TO SEE IF THAT BEING LINE BY LINE BECAUSE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T FIND A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL USES THAT YOU COULD SHARE PARKING BUT BECAUSE OF THAT THE OTHER OF GUARDRAILS WHILE INCREASING THE POSSIBILITY OF HOUSING AND ALSO OTHER USES ON SAME SITE MIXED USE BECAUSE THAT'S IT'S NOT A REPLICATION THAT DISAPPEARS BUT WE HAVE IT APPEARS AS THOUGH YOU CAN REPLICATE THIS IN OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS ARE SOMEWHAT COMPARABLE SUCH AS MID ISLAND I'M SORRY KEEPING GOING BACK TO THAT ONE BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT HELPS ME WITH CONSIDERING THIS TESTIMONY BUT THE IN ADDITION TO THAT THE STAFF REPORT AS I SAID MENTIONS THE INTERSTATE CONTROLS BUT ALSO ON PAGE 14 OF THE STAFF REPORT GIVES US THE THE STANDARDS TO LOOK AT FOR TWO 2 MINUTES AGAIN WE'RE DOING A TEXT AMENDMENT NOT A MAP AMENDMENT AND NOT A PLAN APPROVAL.

SO IS IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE STAFF SAYS YES IS REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS? YES. DOES IT ADDRESS DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEEDS? IS IT CONSISTENT WITH A PURPOSE OF THE ZONING DISTRICT OR WOULD IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY AMONG USERS AND ENSURE EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE TOWN? AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARABLE USES IN THE AREA I THINK IT DOES FIT WITH THAT AND . THAT'S WHY I ASKED STAFF TO POINT OUT THAT PARTICULAR SENTENCE IN THE STAFF REPORT ABOUT ITS COMPATIBILITY WITH OTHER USES IN THE EXISTING SEA PINES JUST TWO POINTS DISTRICT BUT IT WASN'T A LOGICAL AND EARLY DEVELOPMENT MATTER AND AGAIN I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE WALKABILITY OF THE AREA AND IT WOULD NOT RESULT IN SIGNIFICANTLY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING BUT NOT TO WATER AIR NOISE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE VEGETATION, WETLANDS AND THE NATURAL FUNCTIONING OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND AND THE IDEA OF BUFFERING AND OPEN STANDARDS.

I AM A LITTLE BIT BOTHERED BY THE PERCENT INCLUDING THE LANGUAGE COMMON AMENITIES SO THE OTHER THING I'LL POINT OUT IS ACTUALLY DID LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS I DID NOT REVIEW THE CALCULATIONS. I DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT BUT ON 14 AND 17 I'LL LOOK NOT JUST AT THE INTERSECTION SEA PINES CIRCLE BUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF OFFICE PARKWAY SORRY OFFICE PARK ROAD WITH POPE AVENUE AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND COMPARING EXISTING TO 2025 BUILDOUT IT'S THE SAME LEVEL NOT MUCH LESS DIFFERENT BUT NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE NOT. MUCH DECLINE IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS GOOD THERE DON'T GET ME WRONG ABOUT THAT. THE TOWN IS LOOKING AT REPORTER STUDIES TO IMPROVE SOME OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS IN THAT CORNER OF HOPE AVENUE IS ONE OF THEM SO I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE PART OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS I LOOKED AT WHICH WOULD DISSUADE ME FROM THIS TEXT AMENDMENT FINALLY, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES I THINK THAT NEED TO BE

[02:10:08]

YES. AND WHEN YOU'RE STILL CONSIDERING THEN I DO THINK THAT WE TO LOOK AT A LONGER TERM FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING OUR CURRENT STANDARD IN LIMBO IS 30 YEARS THIS TEXT SAYS TEN YEARS. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT MOVE NORTH CLOSER TO THE 30.

MAYBE THERE'S SOME COMPROMISE SO I'D ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THAT THEN ALSO THE PERCENTAGE OF HOUSING INCREASING THAT PERCENTAGE AND I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY BUT I'D LIKE FOR THE TEXT THE LIMIT TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE INCREASE IN WORKFORCE HOUSING THE AMA I THINK LOOK AGAIN AT THAT PERCENTAGE AND AN EXPERT ON WHAT THE AMA SHOULD BE BUT LET'S TAKE LOOK AT THAT AND DEFINING COMMON AMENITY I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE COMMON AMENITY BEING INCLUDED IN THE 10% OPEN SPACE AND I THINK WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION THERE.

CAN I JUST CLARIFY WE STILL HAVE TO MEET AND I BELIEVE MISSY I BELIEVE IT'S 40% MINIMUM OPEN SPACE IN PLANNING DISTRICT. WHAT'S THAT WHAT'S THE MINIMUM OPEN SPACE FOR IT'S 16% OF IT'S WHAT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS THAT DO I REMEMBER THAT.

SO ANYHOW THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS I THINK I THINK THE QUESTION IS PROBABLY A TEMPORARY SANDWICH THAT'S WHAT I'M 60% PURVIEW SO YOU'VE GOT 40% IMPERVIOUS IS WHAT I CALL OPEN SPACE OF THAT AND IT'S NOT IN ADDITION TO THAT BUT A PORTION OF THAT 10% OF THE WHOLE SITE HAS TO BE ACTIVE, USABLE, OPEN SPACE AND I THINK WE ACTUALLY IT OKAY SO SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THERE FOR US SO SORRY MR. CHAIR I WENT ON LONG BUT IT'S A COMPLEX PROJECT AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT CHAMBER THAT THE APPLICANT WILL SAY DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT'S THE APPLICANT AND A STAFF FOR THE ISSUES THAT I WOULD SET OUT OKAY AND GOSH AND TIME WELL DONE HANDLED THIS SITE YOUR PURVIEW THIS YEAR I JUST WANT CALL OUT STAFF AT THIS TIME I'M VERY AWARE THAT STAFF HAS BEEN PULLED EXTENSIVELY TO PROVIDE THEM INFORMATION BUT I KNOW STAFF HAS BEEN DEALING THIS PROJECT FOR OVER TWO YEARS UNDERSTANDABLE SOME WAYS THAT HAS PULLED YOU AND STAFF OFF OF OTHER PRIORITIES. I KNOW YOU HAVE THEM GOOD DECISION. I THINK MY OPINIONS ARE WELL IN I'M BEEN AROUND THIS BLOCK A NUMBER OF TIMES AND I'VE SEEN MISTAKES PASSED WITH THE ELEMENT OF CHANGES UP ON ISSUES THAT HAVE GOT INTO TROUBLE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAILS.

I HAVE SERIOUS RESERVATIONS VULNERABLE AND IT MAKES ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ELEMENT.

THE ALAMO IS A PROCESS WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PUBLIC SETTINGS, DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH THIS PROPOSAL HAS MET THE SAME STANDARD OF SCRUTINY AND ADJUST THE MEASURES OF THE ALAMO IN A WAY THAT IN MY OPINION IS GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL DOWNTOWN. THAT'S A JUDGMENT I UNDERSTAND THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DEFINITELY I THINK THERE'S AN ECONOMIC ASPECT TO THIS THAT WE AS A COUNCIL DON'T UNDERSTAND AT THIS POINT ONLY 15% ARE GOING TO BE DEDICATED WORKFORCE HOUSING, OTHER ECONOMIC 85% ARE BASED ON THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY OF THE PROJECT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE RENTS ARE IF. THE RENTS ARE HIGH THEN THE BED COUNT GOES UP SO JUST THINK

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THOSE TWO ASPECTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. I THINK THAT CONCEPTUALLY SPEAKING WORKFORCE HOUSING, HOUSING FOR EMPLOYEES IN THIS AREA MAKES SENSE.

SO THERE ARE A NUMBER THINGS THAT AT A CERTAIN LEVEL I AGREE WITH STRONGLY AGREE WITH.

AS A MATTER OF FACT BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THIS PROPOSAL MEANS NOR HAS THE COMMUNITY BOUGHT INTO IT AND THINK WE'RE AHEAD OF OURSELVES ON THIS COMMITMENT. I'M ONE ONE OPINION BUT AT THIS TIME I WOULD ASK IF THERE IS A MOTION. YES SIR.

OH YOU WANT PUBLIC OPINION? YEAH. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME AND THANK YOU. YES, PLEASE.

ERIC SOMERVILLE GOOD AFTERNOON. THERE IS A GOOD REVIEW BUT I'M SAYING A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE I WORKED IN WASHINGTON DC FOR 40 YEARS AND DURING THAT TIME I DIDN'T WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING THEY EITHER DIDN'T TELL I TOLD YOU SO MUCH YOU COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT AND IT FELT VERY MUCH LIKE THAT YOU. GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO JOSH IN HIS OWN RESPONSE.

HE REALLY DID BUY INTO ALL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH IT AND A LOT MORE.

LET'S APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT I DIFFER WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT DAVID RELATIVE TO YOUR ASSESSMENT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S A UNIQUE SPOT IT'S A BIT OF IN TURMOIL THAT'S BEEN STUCK THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME. IT ISN'T LIKE IT'S AN OPEN FIELD SORT OF LIKE AQUA.

THERE ARE NO YOU KNOW AND VIOLATED SOMETHING SO I KIND OF LIKE WHAT I HEARD THIS MORNING I WOULD WANT TO APPROVE IT AND I THOUGHT I HAVE EVERY APPROVAL RIGHT BUT I HAD SOME CONCERNS WOULD MAKE RULES ONE IS CLEAR CUTTING IS NOT ALLOWED AND CLEAR OCCURRING HAPPENS.

WHAT'S THE PENALTY FOR THE CLEAR CUTTER? I'M NOT AWARE THAT THE REASON IT'S CLEAR CUT IT'S TOO LATE. YOU GO ON SO I WILL ALMOST NEVER ACT WITH TERROR FOREVER BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT I'M TO SAY AND THE POINT IS IT WAS BUILT TO KEEP FOLKS WELL IT WILL NOT HAVE A SETBACK IN THE ALAMO AND THEY GET AROUND THAT. WHO DOES THE APPROVALS? WHERE DOES IT STOP AND WHAT WAS THE PENALTY? THIS LOOKS LIKE IT WAS THOUGHT THROUGH VERY THOROUGHLY YES. IT'S IN A LITTLE CROWDED AREA. YES.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE INCLUDE MORE TRAFFIC BUT THE FACT IS A LOT MORE TRAFFIC WILL COME HOME WITH OUR BRIDGE BEFORE TOO LONG. IT MIGHT BIGGEST FEAR IS THAT IT'LL JUST GET BACKED UP ON THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO WAIT FOR GETTING THE SPEED THAT WE'VE MEASURED AROUND SEA PINES IS NOT FAST AS THE SPEED THREE LANES WILL TAKE IN AND MOVE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SEA POINTS. SO THAT TRAFFIC ISSUE IS GOING TO BE A BIG ONE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IF THIS LITTLE AREA NOW FACILITATES WALKING OR BIKE RIDING, WELL MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY OUT. WE HAVE DECENT OF THE MOST OF THE YEAR OR SO ANYWAY JUST A FEW THOUGHTS ON THAT THOUGH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER OTHER I'M DOING EVERYONE MY NAME'S JULIE MARTIN. I LEARNED A LOT TODAY FROM PRESENTATIONS AND EVERYTHING AND I LIVE SEA PINES AND I THINK THE WORD WITH BLIGHTED SITES IS NOT WHAT THE WORD THAT WAS USED. I WOULD ACTUALLY CALL IT AN EYESORE. IT'S OKAY. AND ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IS WE HAVE TO HERE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THESE OPPORTUNITIES BUT THE UCB CAMPUS I REMEMBER WALKING IN THERE A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN IT JUST OPENED AND WHAT A BEAUTIFUL SITE AND HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE AN ALREADY BEAUTIFUL EDUCATIONAL SITE IN ADDITION TAKING AWAY AND I WOULD CALL IT IMPROVING A

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YES PLEASE LADY TO THE COMMENT WITH THE HAS NOT LEARNED ENOUGH ABOUT THIS I WE HAVE THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS ISLAND HABITAT ARTICLE IN JANUARY SO I THINK THAT IF YOU SPEAK TO PEOPLE AND THESE ARE SUPPORTING THIS COURSE A PRIVATE DEVELOPER WORKING WITH EMPLOYERS AND TAKING THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE EQUATION I THINK PEOPLE LOVE THAT MODEL AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER IT'S A TENURE OR TERM FOR COMMITMENT TO WORKERS HOUSING THE 15% OR NOT THE TROUBLE IS THAT IN ORDER FOR PRIVATE MARKET TO WORK THE INCENTIVE HAS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME MONEY AND THE TOWN HAS TRIED THIS WITH 30 YEAR RESTRICTIONS WITH A LOT OF COVENANTS COVENANTS IN THE NINETIES AND IN THE EARLY 2000 YOU HAVE THE FAMILY HOUSING PROJECT IT'S A 1997 AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MEDIAN INCOME HOUSING PROGRAM IN 2006 AND THE TOWN COUNCIL ESSENTIALLY HAVE TO SCRAP ALL THESE PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF THE 30 YEAR RESTRICTIONS AND.

IT DOESN'T IT DOES NOT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY ALSO DOES NOT BENEFIT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU INTEND TO HELP WHICH ARE THE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE FOR HOUSING OWNERSHIP TO EXIST BY CAPPING THE RESALE VALUE OF THE HOUSE THE EMPLOYEES THEMSELVES CANNOT GET MORTGAGES THE BANKS WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THE EQUITY BENEFITS OF THAT AND THEREFORE RENTERS AND FOR DEVELOPERS RESTRICTION FOR 30 YEARS THAT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO THEM TO GET BANK LOANS THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT OUR DESIRES ARE AND WHAT'S ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE. SO TO JUST TO GO BACK TO THIS TWO POINTS I THINK GET TO THE COUNCILMEMBER HAVE ALREADY HEARD ENOUGH THE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY IN SUPPORT OF THIS PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND I DON'T THINK IT'S BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY HAS NOT HEARD ENOUGH THANK YOU EVEN THANK YOU ALL I WANT TO MAKE THIS POINT VERY CLEAR THIS IS EXCELLENT LONG TWO AND A HALF HOURS AND YOU AND I MET TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO IT WAS TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO AND I THINK YOU WOULD LIKE THE FACT IT'S TIME MONEY TO GO BACK AND SEE AND IT'S NOT A WASTE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY WE TRIED TO CREATE FOR YOU LIKE I WOULD TELL YOU DAVID YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A HUNDRED EVEN WANT IT SLIDES NOTHING LIKE THAT IT'S GETTING THING AND I WE PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR ONCE NO ONE DOES AND I'M A STUDENT HOUSING THE BLOCK AND I'M TELLING YOU THIS UNIVERSITY PEOPLE DIE ON BLIND WITHOUT HOUSING AND I'M HERE TRY TO ANSWER THAT AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PERFECT BUT WE'RE STILL WILLING TO GO BACK AND LOOKS AT THINGS AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE GO BACK AND THERE'S ONE MORE THAT WE NEED TO INTERVIEW THIS BUT GIVE US A CHANCE DO THAT AND THIS IS A BIG DEAL. THIS IS A $30 MILLION PROJECT I'VE SPENT TWO AND A HALF YEARS ON TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT AND ALSO ASK FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, GET IT RIGHT FOR RADIO.

I OBVIOUSLY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR THIS THESE COMMENTS ARE MORE PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE. I HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS COMMUNITY NOW FOR MORE ON THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY UP UNTIL THE ASIAN I DON'T PRETEND TO KNOW ALL OF THE DETAILS AND THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS ETC. FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE AND FROM A RESIDENTS PERSPECTIVE THIS THING MAKES SENSE. ABSOLUTELY MAKES SENSE. I THINK WE ASSUME AND I THINK A LOT OF THE PROBLEM WE'VE IT'S AN ISLAND IS DEVELOPERS KEEP TOUCHES TEN FOOT POLE BECAUSE IT'S SO MANY HOMES THAT THEY HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH AND I'VE SEEN THAT IN TEN YEAR AND I THINK SHE HAS ON THIS PROJECT THANKS THANK I JUST YOU KNOW ADDRESS THE OBJECTION THAT THE

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SO WITH A LACK OF FUNDING BY COUNCIL THAT'S BEEN APPROVED AND I CAN ASSURE THERE'S NO BUY IN FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR THE USE OF THAT HOUSING PROJECT SO I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER THIS PROJECT KNOWS THE PROFIT AND LOSS FOR THE PROJECT IS WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK SO I BY ASKING PLEASE DON'T PUT THIS UP BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THE PRIVATE PROJECT AND DON'T HOLD IT UP YOU DON'T HAVE PLAN IN THIS AREA. THANK YOU.

HELLO MY NAME IS KATHLEEN REDMOND. I LIVE LIKE ONE I'M A RELATIVELY NEW RESIDENT TO TOWN AND IT'S NO DO NOT WORK THESE PEOPLE AND PASS THIS RESOLUTION THIS OPPORTUNITY IS LOST YOU WON'T COME BACK WE DEEP PRIDE HERE ON THIS ISLAND AND ALL IT COME FORWARD TO SAY THEY WANT US WITH THIS WHEN I SAID THAT CERTAIN GROUPS SAID THAT THEY WERE IN OVER A YEAR AGO I CUT THIS ON PEOPLE SO WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY HERE HESITATING PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN SUPPORT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE BECAUSE MY DARLING I'VE BEEN HERE FOR OVER TWO AND A HALF HOURS NOW. PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO PASS TESTS. I'M SPEAKING FOR MANY OTHER WHO ARE UNWILLING TO STAND UP AND COME OUT HERE. SO THAT'S MY POINT OF VIEW.

IT IT'S THERE ARE NO OTHER OF THE PUBLIC IS THERE EMOTION? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED HERE. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. I'LL TAKE ALL OF THE ASK QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.

THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF BENEFIT TO THIS PROJECT I WANT THE FULL COUNCIL TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACT ON THIS PROJECT AND IT IS MY MOTION THAT WE MOVE THIS FORWARD TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OR DENIAL I CAN ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC MR. CHAIR JUST BRIEFLY BUT I'LL SUPPORT THE MOTION. I THINK THE STAFF ASK US FOR SUGGESTIONS AS IT MOVE FORWARD AND I THINK I TRY TO GO THROUGH MY LIST WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND THE STAFF BUT JUST TO REPEAT THAT LIST, LOOKING AT THE LAST OF THE THREE OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DECIDE, JUST LET US KNOW. SECONDLY SOME CLARIFICATION OF COMMON ABILITY IN THAT 10% OPEN SPACE OR COMMON AMENITY MINOR TECHNICAL THING BUT SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING TEXT THAT THAT IT GO THE FULL VOTE BUT SOME SORT MAYBE INTERIM POSITION BE CONSIDERED BETWEEN WHAT IS PROPOSED IN THE TEXT AND THEN WHAT THE CURRENT ELEMENT PROVIDES SO CONSIDERING THAT THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE TO CONSIDER BUT OTHERWISE I'M VOTING ON A TEXT AMENDMENT IF I HAD TO LOOK AT THE PLAN THERE'S A LOT TO LIKE ABOUT THE PLAN INCLUDING THE PRIVATE FUNDING BELIEVE ME.

ABSOLUTELY. BUT I'M VOTING ON THE TEXT AMENDMENT TODAY TO ENABLE A PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD AND NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE OR THE PUBLIC ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU V

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