May 17, 2023 County Transportation Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD AFTERNOON AND LOVE YOUR BEFORE KAREN TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING FOR WEDNESDAY MAY THE 17TH 2023 WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE GORDON. HERE, HERE HERE HERE HERE HERE MR. CLAIRE HERE MR. MANNING HERE IS THE GLOVER HERE YOU GOT MR. FORCE TO HERE I'D LIKE TO WELCOME CHARLES PERRY. WELCOME TO OUR FIRST MEETING. YOUR FIRST MEETING? HE'S FROM DISTRICT TEN. YOU ALL RISE. WE START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH ENERGY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU WELL, IT'S CUSTOMARY TO GO AROUND THE ROOM AND INTRODUCE OUR MEMBERS ARE SITTING HERE AND WE'LL START THAT SUZANNE LAWSON LOVE COUNTRY AND SIDETRACK WEST CAMPBELL RIGHT AROUND OUR DISCUSSION HERE THE FIRST YEAR OF ALL IN 2011 THE TOWN COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX ERIC LAWSON, COUNTY ALL RIGHT THANK YOU

[3. PUBLIC COMMENT (TO AGENDA ITEMS ONLY)]

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES January 18, 2023 & March 15, 2023]

[5A. SCDOT DISTRICT PROJECT UPDATE]

CAN WE GET YOUR VOLUME TURNED UP A LITTLE BIT? I GUESS THIS NUMBER CAN YOU TRY TO TURN YOUR BODY? YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. LET'S PROCEED NOW WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE A COUPLE DOORS CLOSE TO SOME BACKGROUND NOISE I THAT'S A HIGH AS IT GOES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. PLEASE PROCEED AS YOU WORK JUST BE VERY FOR MORE IS MORE

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[5B. DIRT ROAD PROJECT UPDATE]

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO WE'LL START WITH DIRT ROAD 53. THAT'S RAINBOW ROAD WE CAN HERE IN NORTH VIEW WE ARE STILL WAITING TO GET THE PERMITS SO WE CAN BEGIN CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE STILL HOPEFUL THAT THOSE PERMITS COME SOON SO WE CAN START RAINBOW ROAD THIS SPRING TWICKENHAM IN NORTH VIEW TO FOLLOW PROBABLY OVER THE SUMMER AND INTO THE FALL. I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE BUT WE ALSO HAVE DIRT ROAD 54 RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE CONTRACTING PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO BE ROCKING ON THE SKI SO WE ARE MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTOR LATER ON THIS MONTH TO GO OVER A TIMEFRAME FOR THAT. SO IT'S PROBABLY LOOKING LIKE LATER ON THIS FALL TO GET THOSE HANDFUL OF ROADS ON THE FALL SKI INTO NEXT YEAR. SO THAT IS WILL BE QUITE AN ENDEAVOR BECAUSE OF HAVING OUR MATERIALS HAULED IN BY BARGES I BELIEVE YOU SAID THE LOGISTICS

[Items 5C & 5E]

SO ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT WE'LL GO THE YEAR SIX RESURFACING.

YEP. SO RIGHT NOW THE CONTRACTOR HAS BEEN WORKING ON DOT RULES THE ROADS HIGHLIGHTED ARE IN THE GREEN TAX ARE THE ROADS THAT THEY HAVE RESURFACED THOSE STILL ARE GOING TO NEED PERMANENT STRIPING AND TO HAVE THE SHOULDERS BRUSHED BACK AND TO HAVE PUNCH LIST ON BUT THEY ON TRACK THERE'S ACTUALLY LOST DRAG WEST AND THE THREE THAT ARE GREEN THEY NEED TO GO FINISH THOSE UP AS WELL SO FOR ROADS FOR THE REST OF THE D.O.T. CONTRACT ON THAT SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE DONE PROBABLY THIS MONTH AND WE HAVE CURRENTLY INVOICED ABOUT LITTLE MORE THAN NINE INTO THE CONTRACTOR THE CEI HAS BEEN PAID A LITTLE MORE THAN 5000 HAS ANOTHER OUTSTANDING INVOICE FOR ABOUT 14,000.

SO THE REST OF THAT THE DOT ROADS I WOULD EXPECT TO BE INVOICED LONGER MAY INVOICE AND PAID IN JUNE ANY ISSUES WITH D.O.T. ANY EVERYBODY SMILING AT D.O.T. YOU JUST A FEW THINGS THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS YEAH AT THE START AT THE INTERSECTION NOT LEAVING GAPS IN THE SYSTEM SORRY FOR THE DOWNTURN AND THEN THAT WAS ON WHAT DROVE THAT

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YOU GUYS DID A JOB. THANKS. I'LL PASS THAT ON TO THE CONTRACTOR SO THANK YOU PRESERVATION THE CONTRACTOR WAS GETTING STARTED PATCHING TODAY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM EARLIER THE GAME STARTED A LITTLE LATE IN THE GAME THEY ARE EXPECTING TO BE DONE WITH THE CHIP SEAL WHICH WAS WHAT SCRUB SEAL CONTAINS THE CHIPS YOU JUNE 5TH AND THEN THEY'RE EXPECTING TO DO THE FOG SEAL AFTER THAT AND STRIPING SO HOPEFULLY LOTS KIND OF TO GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION YOU KNOW HAVE TO HAVE THE WEATHER BREAK THEIR THEIR WAY BUT HOPING THAT IF THEY CAN FINISH BY YOU KNOW EARLY TO MID JUNE WE CAN STILL POTENTIALLY GET THAT INVOICE AND PAID BY JULY ONE BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR CHIP SEAL IS KIND OF NEAR AND DEAR TO US AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO TAKE SOME PICTURES OF THAT AND SHOW IT NEXT TO ME. I'D APPRECIATE IT. YES, SIR.

DEFINITELY PRESERVATION CONTRACT IS OKAY. I'M SORRY I FORGOT I'VE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER THE YEAR SEVEN BID PACKAGE FOR ALL THREE CONTRACT PRESERVATION AND REJUVENATING THIS RIGHT NOW IS GOING BE THE YEAR SEVEN PRESERVATION ROADS WHICH WILL BE MICRO SURFACING ARE ALL COUNTY ROADS. SO WITH MOST OF THESE FOLLOWING THE FIVE YEAR PLAN CREATED BY ME THERE BEEN SOME THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED ON TO IT TO A GEOGRAPHIC SENSE AS FAR AS ONE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOODS VERSUS ONE ROAD AND BOUNCING AROUND BUT THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD INTEND TO BID IN THE NEXT PROGRAM WE'RE GOING WELL.

WE'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. WE HAVE BEEN GOING OUT IN THE JANUARY TIME SPAN TO BUILD FOR OUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND WE SHOULD BE IN A SITUATION THIS YEAR WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO ROLL OUT OF JULY 32 AND JULY ONE AND START OUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET A ROOM PAINTING DONE EARLIER IN THE CYCLE RATHER THAN AT THE END OF THE CYCLE.

[5D. CTC PAVEMENT PRESERVATION PROJECT]

THIS WAS UPDATED TO INCLUDE IMPLANTATION IN PARALLEL BUSINESS PARK SO I KNOW FOREST AND SO THEY SHOULD BE FINISHED WITH THIS CONTRACT IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO SO IT SHOULD BE DONE THIS MONTH AND THEN FINAL MADE IN JUNE FOR THAT AND SO FAR THEY'VE INVOICED ABOUT 28,000 FOR THAT AND THEN THIS IS THE YEAR SEVEN REJUVENATED ROADS.

MOST OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE ROADS THAT WERE RESURFACED TWO YEARS AGO I BELIEVE.

RIGHT. SO THIS IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE YEAR SEVEN SCHEDULED TO BE BID FAIR MINDED JUST AS A REMINDER REFRESHER TO SOME OF THE NEWER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE IN THE PAST REJUVENATE OR CORRECT REGULATORS TECHNICALLY KNOWN WE HAVEN'T WE'VE HAD A PAVING CONTRACT AS HANDILY AND WE WERE BEING CHARGED ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 50 TO 80 OR SQUARE YARD INSTEAD OF BY SEPARATE SEPARATING IT OUT AND DOING IT INDEPENDENTLY. IT'S DOWN ABOUT 9090 $0.05. SO IT'S A MAJOR SAVINGS FOR US DOING THAT. JUST MAKE SOME OTHER CONTRACT FOR THE FULL TIME STAFF TO HANDLE THAT. IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO DO MORE ROADS AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. THAT ONE RUNS PRETTY QUICK SO THEY GENERALLY GET IN WITHIN, YOU KNOW, 2 TO 3 WEEKS HAVE IT KNOCKED OUT.

SO IT'S A PRETTY QUICK, QUICK AND EASY SO AND THAT'S I THINK THE FIVE UNLESS ADT WAS INCLUDED WITH THE RESURFACING UPDATE. SO I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND A QUESTION BRIAN. I KNOW FREDRICKA TAYLOR.

YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING, SIR. YES, SIR FOR SUSTAINING SOME OF THAT. SO THAT ONE IS NOT ON THE CURRENT FIVE YEAR PROGRAM BUT IT IS IN YEAR ONE OF THE NEXT PROGRAM. SO I THINK THAT THE KEY ROADS WE STARTED LATER ON THIS YEAR YEAR FOR EVERY ONE MORE PROGRAM AFTER THAT AND THEN IT WILL BE

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I BELIEVE IT'S DEVIN WOOD HAS BUMPED AND PAOLO GREISS STATED THAT THEY CAN'T THEIR BUS CAN'T OVER THAT SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE AND NOT YOU KNOW, INCONVENIENCE ANYBODY BUT SO THAT'S THAT'S ON THE LIST.

IT'S A GOOD BIT OF PATCHING RIGHT THERE ESPECIALLY IN FRONT THE CONCRETE PLANT SO THAT WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO GET PATCHED AND THEN GET OVERLAID. SO THANK YOU SIR.

MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE NOT JUST THAT PLACE BUT I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED WHETHER YOU OR THIS COMMITTEE CONSULT WITH THE PUBLIC TRANSIT PEOPLE NOT JUST ON THAT BUT IN OTHER AREAS TO FIND OUT IF THEY HAVE ANY SPECIAL PROBLEMS OR NEEDS THAT ARE BEING NOT MET.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT. I KNOW THERE ARE PASSIVE DATA COLLECTION LIKE WHAT WE DO WITH OUR NORMAL EVERY THREE YEARS OUR PAVEMENT DATA COLLECTION THIS PASSIVE COLLECTION THAT CAN BE PUT ON REGULAR FLEET VEHICLES TO MEASURE SOME THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOKED AT. I I BELIEVE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN AVOID A POTHOLE SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ACCURATE THE DATA ACTUALLY IS BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY REACH OUT AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY HOTSPOTS LIKE THAT THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF . I MEAN IT IS A SERVICE THAT THE WHOLE COUNTY NEEDS AND MOST OF THE BUSSES WELL THEY PASS ALL SORTS OF PLACES. BUT I WAS JUST THINKING THAT YOU KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE MAYBE IT'S PLAYED FOR A BUS CAN'T MAKE A TURN OR SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE OF A PAVEMENT PROBLEM BUT YOU KNOW THEY FIRST OF ALL THEY ATTEND THE LAST MEETINGS AND I'VE HAD OPEN DIALOG WITH THEM AND JUST DIDN'T KNOW. I MEAN I'M NOT CRITICIZING YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO TAKE IT THAT WAY. NO, I NOT TAKE IT THAT WAY. I'M JUST ELABORATING ON THE FACT THAT HAD AN OPEN DIALOG WITH THEM AND I'VE NEVER BROUGHT IT UP AS WELL AS IN OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN THERE'S FORUMS IN THERE THAT THEY COULD FILL OUT IF THEY HAD ISSUES THAT THEY COULD PUT IT DOWN AND SEND IT TO US AND WE'LL SEE THAT IT WOULD BE A SERVICE WHETHER IT'S WITH US OR PUBLIC WORKS AND MORE THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORKS AS I SAY IT JUST HIT ME WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ROAD WHICH MAN THE BOARD THEIR BOARD FOR A FEW YEARS I USED TO HAVE TO GO DOWN ONCE A MONTH AND IT WAS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE

[5F. SR 170 & TRIANGE UPDATE]

SO YOU KNOW THANK YOU. YOU'RE UP EARLY IN THE AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING? WELL, GOOD, GOOD. SO THE WE HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS ON THE 117 YEAR TERM PROJECT SHOULD BE OUT TO BID NEXT WEEK FOR ADVERTISEMENT SO HAVE GOTTEN EVERYTHING BACK FROM NCDOT IN WAY OF PLAN REVIEW AS WELL OR PERMITTING AS WELL AS THE IGA TO BE ABLE TO RESURFACE RAMPS AND TO 78 SO HE HAD REALLY GOOD NEWS THAT THAT ONE IS MOVING ANOTHER PIECE OF THAT WE ARE DOING A UPDATE TO THE 170 CORRIDOR PLAN RIGHT.

SO THE LAST HAD DONE ONE IN 2019. WE'RE SEEING A LOT IN THE WAY OF REDEVELOPMENT ALONG 170 SO WE WANT TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THAT.

SO WE'VE CONTRACTED A COME TO DO AN UPDATE TO THAT STUDY AND THAT'S FROM THE BACK GATE OF SUNCITY DOWN TO THE TRAFFIC ,CORRECT? NO, THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY IT'S IT'S TO AT THAT SAME AREA WE'RE ACTUALLY EXTENDING IT FROM DELAWARE INTERSECTION SO TO TWO INTERSECTIONS SOUTH OF THE INTERCHANGE RIGHT TO 462 SO AGAIN TO LOOK THAT ENTIRE AREA AND SEE BASED UPON THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE SEEING OVER ON THE HARTVILLE SIDE ALREADY BUILDING JASPER COUNTY SIDE WHAT WHAT IS THAT NEXT FIVE YEARS TEN YEARS LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AND THE NEED FOR IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

IN ADDITION TO THAT WE'RE ALSO SPECIFYING AND LOOKING THE OLD FIELD INTERSECTION AND WE'RE DOING A SINGLE ONE ANALYSIS ON THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION RIGHT NOW.

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SO AGAIN THAT ONE'S HAPPENING THEN. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE 278 STUDY WHICH BETWEEN ARGENT AECOM DID THAT STUDY AS WELL IT FROM ARGENT DOWN TO THE 170 INTERCHANGE THAT IS JUST DONE. I'VE KEPT THE BRAKES ON THAT ONE FOR JUST A MOMENT FOR THEM TO FINALIZE THAT REPORT BECAUSE AS THEY RELOOK AT THAT 170 PIECE OF THE CORRIDOR WE ALSO WANT THEM TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK 278 LOOK AT THAT SAME VERIZON AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ALL COVERED DOES THAT BEING COVERED BY THE COUNTY OR BY THAT THAT ONE THE THE UPDATED STUDY IS BEING COVERED BY THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT ON ON TAB AND BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THERE'S SOME IMMEDIATE NEEDS NOW THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE WAY OF DEVELOPMENT. WE JUST WANT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE JUST AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN SO WE THE COUNTY IS TAKING THAT PIECE ON ON THE UPDATE I THOUGHT THEY WERE WE WERE STILL DOING IN STEPHANIE I'M DID WE PUSH IT BACK TO 2025 DOING YEAH THAT'S YES SO IN THE THERE'S AN OVERALL STUDY RIGHT LET'S IS GOING TO PROVIDE THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF 170 SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU WERE RIGHT IN SAYING SO FOR THE 46TH CIRCLE ALL THE WAY TO BOUNDARIES RIGHT HERE THEY'LL LOOK AT THAT ENTIRE PIECE THE EFFORTS THOUGH THAT WE'RE DOING ON THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS 1/2 YEAH I FEEL LIKE ONLINE SOUND THE FREEDOM ALL RIGHT SO THEY'RE NOT WASTED THOSE BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND COMPILED IN THAT BIGGER OVERALL STUDY SO THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT AREAS ALONG 170 THAT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AND AGAIN WHOEVER IS CHOSEN TO DO THAT STUDY THEY'LL TAKE THOSE BITS AND PIECES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE AND USE THAT FOR THE OVERALL STUDY. OKAY THEN OH GOODNESS.

ONE LAST YEAH NO I HAD ONE OTHER THOUGHT IN MY HEAD AND I LOST IT SO APOLOGIZE HOPEFULLY THE NOISE JARRED YEAH YEAH YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS YES CORRECT THE 278 FROM SERGEANT DOWN TO SOUTH CAROLINA ONE SEVEN YES YOU SAID YOU SORT OF I'M GOING TO USE A TERM MANY MANY HOLD ON THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT. YES.

ONE OR ONE ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME TO US AND GIVE US SOME DO A PRESENTATION ON THAT.

I MEAN WE COULD DO WE COULD DO AN INTERIM PRESENTATION REALLY THERE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REALLY EXPANSION. THERE'S ALREADY SIX LANES ON TO 78 SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT NECESSARILY AN EXPANSION THERE . WE'RE JUST WE'RE LOOKING AT ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND SOME IMPROVEMENTS JUST IN AND AROUND THAT CORRIDOR SO IT WILL YEAH, WE'LL WE'RE READY TO WE'RE READY TO PRESENT ON THAT. I JUST WANTED TO HOLD OFF ON THAT PIECE BECAUSE IN AROUND POMEROY RACE I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD SO PRIOR JUST SO THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH 170 COMPLETING THAT STUDY AND THEN HAVING TO DO UPDATE IMMEDIATELY WE'LL JUST HOLD ON THAT STUDY FOR RIGHT NOW AND THEN WE'LL PROGRESS ON THAT ONE. SO IT SHOULD BE DONE SOMETIME BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR? I DON'T THINK SO. SO YOU'RE NOT AT THIS PARTICULAR YOU'RE NOT CONSIDERING MAKING THE SECTION FROM 172 ORIGIN SIX LANES, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, THAT'S PART OF THE OVERALL TRIANGLE PROJECT BUT YEAH I MEAN THAT'S THAT IS THAT IS PART OF THE OVERALL BUT IT'S WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING FOR THAT AS AS OF THIS TIME PERIOD SO WE WON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT UNTIL WE WOULD GO OUT FOR SALES TAX OR THERE WOULD BE SOME KIND OF FEDERAL PROCESS THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH.

SO WE'RE WE'RE TO FINALIZING THAT PROJECT. IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE PROBABLY DELAYING IT BY ABOUT SIX MONTHS. SO I WOULD THINK SOMETIME BEFORE END OF THE YEAR WE'RE READY TO PRESENT ON THAT AECOM DID THE STUDY AND THEY DID IT IN A NEAR TERM OR NEAR TERM INTERMEDIATE TERM AND LONG TERM AND THE LONG TERM IS TAKING IT TO SIX LANES BUT THE DOLLARS AREN'T THERE THE DOLLARS FOR SOMETHING TO TUNE OF 90 TO $100 MILLION TO BE ABLE TO DO IT SO THEY'RE WE'RE STARTING OFF DURING THE NEAR TERM WHICH WAS LIKE $3 MILLION WHICH CAME FROM A COMBINATION OF JASPER COUNTY HARTSVILLE AND BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE UPDATE WOULD HELP LOOK AT OTHER INTERSECTIONS IN THAT SECTION TO SEE IF IT'S MORE

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YEAH. SO THE UPDATES ARE OBVIOUSLY NECESSARY AND I THINK WE'VE THAT THAT CHANGE OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO YEARS SO AGAIN THAT'S OF THE THINGS THAT WE MADE SURE OF IS TO GO OUT AND GRAB THOSE THE TRAFFIC COUNTS AT EACH ONE OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS PRIOR TO SCHOOL THEM OUT. WELL THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A CAPACITY ISSUE ON THAT SECTION FROM 172 I 95 THERE WILL AND THERE'S WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL YEAH IT'S WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE GROWTH THE 2020 YEAR HORIZON AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW ON ARGENT SO THE REASON THAT THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF THE CORRIDOR IS IN OVERCAPACITY AT THIS POINT IS MANY PEOPLE ARE USING ARGENT BUT HAVING TRAVELED ARGENT ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS AND SHORTCUT AND AND REALLY THE BACKUP FROM FROM ARGENT IS PRETTY TREMENDOUS IN THE MORNINGS I THINK I WAS THERE AT 730 IN THE MORNING THIS LAST WEEK ON A TUESDAY AND WE WERE BACKED UP PAST SHORTCUT.

SO THERE'S AN SOME OF THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE NEAR TERM PROJECT WE'RE CONVERTING THAT SINGLE LEFT TO A DUAL COMING OFF OF ORIGIN ON 170 SO AGAIN ADDING CAPACITY THAT INTERSECTION TO HELP THAT CLEAR OUT I THINK THAT WILL MAKE A MAJOR DIFFERENCE YEAH WE DON'T HAVE THAT AND WE WILL WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACTOR FOCUSES IN ON THAT AREA AS KIND OF A FIRST PHASE OF THAT PROJECT BECAUSE AGAIN PRIMARILY STRIPING AND SIGNAL WORK SO THAT'S A PRETTY QUICK FIX TO BE ABLE TAKE CARE OF ARGENT OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?

[Items 6A & 6B]

I'VE BEEN ADVISING EVERYBODY THAT THE CTSI HAD TALKED ABOUT HAVING A STATEWIDE MEETING OF WHICH THEY DID ON FIVE APRIL AND I ATTENDED IT AND IT WAS ATTENDED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE CHAIRMEN FROM SES AROUND THE STATE AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AS WELL.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTED CHANGED WAS THAT WE WENT AT ONE POINT IN TIME IS DOWN TO 20 SORT OF KCTCS WAS UP TO 27 AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHICH LEAVES 19 THAT THE TEAM TAKES CARE OF LET'S SEE I FOUND IT VERY INTERESTING WE'RE MAKING OF GASOLINE TAXES GEORGIA'S GASOLINE TAXES IS 31.2 CENTS ON GASOLINE, $0.35 ON DIESEL. THE SOUTH CAROLINA IS 28.75 AND NORTH CAROLINA IS 40.5. SO NORTH CAROLINA'S GAS TAX IS THE HIGHEST IN THE REGION AND PROJECTIONS ARE FUNDING SOURCE OR GAS TAX BACK IN FISCAL YEAR FISCAL YEAR 18 WE WERE RECEIVING 75,000 OR $75 MILLION IN GASOLINE TAX. THE PROJECTION THIS YEAR IS 110 MILLION THAT'S BEING DIVIDED BETWEEN THE CTC AND THE PROJECTION FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 IS 114 MILLION OF THE 46 COUNTIES. THERE'S ONLY 14 THAT ARE WOULD

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SO THEY'VE THEY'VE HAD A MAJOR SLOWDOWN BECAUSE OF THE OTHER THING WHICH CAME OUT I USE THE MILITARY EXPRESSION ONLY MATURELY LOUD AND CLEAR WAS A THE ABILITY OF LATE WORK LELAND CORVIN WHO IS THE DEPUTY ENGINEER FOR CONSTRUCTION TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY HOLD TWICE A YEAR MEETINGS WITH THE ASPHALT COMPANIES AND BACK WHENEVER ACT 41 WAS BEING PASSED ACT 41 THERE'S A GASOLINE SALES TAX WHICH FROM 0 TO 12 ADDITIONAL SINCE GASOLINE TAXES THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH THE NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS WHICH THERE'S ONLY 15 ASPHALT PLANTS IN SOUTH CAROLINA WHOLE TOTAL. SO IT MAKES IT KIND OF DIFFICULT AND PRICING HAS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE DEMAND IS GREATER THAN WHAT THE MONEY IS THERE. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT BOTHERING PUTTING MORE ASPHALT PLANTS IN THE STATE. THEY'RE BASICALLY JUST RAISING THEIR PRICE ONEROUS AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GRAB THAT BUT THAT MOVE OF THE FORMS AND THEY'VE THEY HAD GIVEN THE LEAD THAT THIS WAS COMING BUT THE CONTRACTORS HAVEN'T RAMPED UP TO TO BASICALLY ADD ADDITIONAL BABY PLANTS AS WELL AS PAVING TEAMS. SO IT'S A PROBLEM AROUND STATE TO THE FACT THAT I HAD A CALL THIS PAST WEEK ASKING IF WE WERE SPENDING THE $5.8 MILLION THAT WE RECEIVED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IN WHICH RESPONDED YES WE HAVE PLANS IT'S IN THE WORKS AS WE SPEAK. I WAS AMAZED AT THE NUMBER OF COUNTIES THAT WERE HAVING PROBLEMS SPENDING THE MONEY THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAD GIVEN US TO THE 100 OR 500 MILLION THAT WERE 250 MILLION THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US AND THE ABILITY JUST TO GET CONTRACTS IN PLACE TO SPEND IT. SO I WAS REALLY QUITE SURPRISED THE ISSUES THAT THE STATE'S FACING AND IT'S NOT JUST WE'RE ON THE POSITIVE SIDE OF DOING THAT.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS BUT I'M I'M DOING THIS QUITE INTENTIONALLY I'M SAVE THIS TIDBIT FOR LAST I WALKED UP TO THE SECRETARY TO TALK TO HER ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ITEMS AND SHE LOOKED UP TO ME AND SAID MR. GORDON, IF BEAUFORT COUNTY YOU HAVE ONE OF THE BEST PROGRAMS IN THE STATE AND I SAID THANK YOU VERY MUCH MA'AM.

AND SHE SAID I'D LIKE TO ALSO TELL YOU THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY ROADS AND SHE SAYS I HAVE MORE TO THIS CONCERN BEAUFORT COUNTY ROADS OUR NUMBER ONE AND CONDITION IN THE STATE AND YOU GUYS ARE GETTING A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THAT SO THE PROGRAMS WE STARTED FIVE YEARS AGO AND CONTINUE ON IS DIVIDENDS AND WORKING THE WORK WE DO WITH OUR DISTRICT

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I'VE WANTED YOU ALL TO HEAR THAT AND KNOW THAT THAT'S TAKING PLACE SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY THE NEXT ITEM IS WHEN I WENT TO ASK THE CANDIDATES WHO THEY USED TO STOMP ON THE FLOOR BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A TEST QUESTION AND WHAT THEY WERE TELLING US THIS WAS A TEST QUESTION THIS IS A TEST QUESTION I BROUGHT IT UP TWO MONTHS AGO AND I'M BRINGING IT UP AGAIN.

YOU ARE MY DISTRICT ARE RIGHT WHAT WAS HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE BY PRIOR KCTCS THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR LESS 580 WE HIRED AN ENGINEER TO TAKE CARE OF DEVELOPING THAT PROGRAM FOR US BUT WE AS A CTC YOU ALL HAVE A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO SPEND ON STATE SECONDARIES THAT GO FROM 500 TO 2018 IN YOUR DISTRICTS AND IN JULY MEETING IF YOU SHOW UP NOTHING YOU GET NOTHING BUT THE IDEA IS TO HAVE IT IN A WEEK BEFOREHAND TO HAVE SO WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA ANY SLIDES, PHOTOS OR ANY INFORMATION YOU HAVE ON THAT SHOULD BE KEPT THAT CRITERIA.

I'VE ALSO REACHED OUT TO ELIZABETH AND SAID IF SHE HAS ANY THAT SHE'S AWARE OF THAT WE DON'T HAVE ON OUR PROGRAM WHETHER IT'S LESS THAN 500 OR OUR PAVING PROGRAMS ARE FIVE YEAR PROGRAM TO LOOK AT THAT AND TO THE LIST SO I REALIZE I'LL GIVE YOU SO GIVE AN EXAMPLE I LIVE IN WELFARE AND WHILE I LOOK AT MY DISTRICT AND I HAD A NEW COPY OF IT READ AGAIN FOR ME WHEN MY DISTRICT STARTS THE BERKELEY HALL TO 78 STOPS IT AND GOES DOWN TO AND CROSSES OVER JUST A LITTLE BIT INTO HILTON HEAD PLANTATION I VIRTUALLY NO STATE ROADS ARE GOING TO QUALIFY FROM 50 TO 2000 AND I WOULD BET THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE VERY FEW AS WELL CORRECT YOU HAVE FIVE STATE ROAD. YEAH AND THE HILTON HEAD IS GOING TO WIND UP IN THE SAME SITUATION SO THE REST OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE FIGHTING FOR YOUR DISTRICTS SO YOU'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO KNOCK OUT YOUR ROADS AND HAVE THEM READY FOR PRESENTATION PICTURES CONDITION AND SALES PITCH ON HOW FAR STARTING AND STOPPING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AND. I'M SURE BRYAN WILL HELP ANYBODY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AS WELL AS I'LL BE GLAD HELP ANYBODY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. OKAY.

[6C. FY 2023-2024 APPORTIONMENT]

WE DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND DONOR DOLLARS ON STATE PROJECTS THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THEY CAN GO TO STRICTLY A 385,000 GOES TO OUR PROJECTS BUT WE HAVE 2.6 MILLION OF WHICH WE HAVE TO SPEND 33% ON STATE ROADS AGAIN. SO WE HAVE THAT PRETTY MUCH IN THE WORKS WITH OUR OUR OUR PROGRAM BUT I'M PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IS AN UPDATE AS TO WHETHER WE GOT ANY QUESTIONS THAT OKAY MR. GLOVER YOU'RE UP NEXT

[6D. ST. HELENA DRAINAGE STUDY]

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THAT'S THE SCENARIO THAT THEY HAVE AND THE DRAINAGE ON SAYING HOW MUCH PRETTIER HAS VERY VERY ACCORDING TO MY BROTHER ANYWAY HE SAID IT LOOKS GOOD BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP THE DRAINAGE CLEAN AND THE COUNTY HAS TO DO THAT SO THAT'S THAT'S THE SCENARIO OKAY DO YOU HAVE MANY PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING THERE WEREN'T I WAS NOT THERE AT THE MEETING RIGHT AWAY I WAS HAVING MY EYES TAKE CARE BUT THERE WERE PRETTY GOOD ATTENDANCE AT .

THE MEETING YES. GOOD. ALL RIGHTY.

[6E. CTC DOCUMENTS]

[6F. CTC WEBSITE]

[7. TREASURER’S REPORT]

QUESTIONS FOR ME. REPORT A LOT OF WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS SOME OF THE KEY PROJECTS THAT THAT BRIAN MENTIONED PARTICULARLY THEY WERE THE LARGER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WE'RE REALLY PUSHING TO GET COMPLETED BY THE OF THE FISCAL YEAR. SO BRIAN DIDN'T COVER MOST OF WHAT I WANTED TO JUST TALK ABOUT BUT RESURFACING AND WE SHOULD WE SHOULD BE ABLE THAT IF THINGS WORK OUT AS PLANNED BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE D.O.T. ROUTE BY THE OF THAT BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR COUNTY ROADS WILL FOLLOW THAT AND SIMILAR FOR FOR PRESERVATION THAT'S THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF THAT'S BEEN DONE AND WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD ON THOSE AND SURE TO BE ABLE TO MEET OUR COMMITMENT FOR SPENDING FOR THE FISCAL SO I DON'T HAVE REALLY ANYTHING IN ADDITION THOSE ARE THE KEY PROJECTS THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE DOLLARS ONE THAT WE HAD THE SPENDING THAT WE WERE TARGETING TO COMPLETE BY THE END OF THE YEAR WHAT ARE THE THINGS WHICH THERE IS SOME

[00:45:03]

THE UNDERSTANDING BY THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR OF THE CTSI PROGRAM MADE THE STAND PREVIOUSLY THAT IF WE HAVE COMMITTED AND UNDER CONTRACT AND WE HAVEN'T SPENT BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR WE'RE IN JAIL FOR THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. SO OF THE MILLION WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SPENDING IF WE HAVEN'T SPENT WE SPEND 750,000 OF THE 200 MILLION WE HAD 250 OF THOSE COMMITTED IN THE PAST . JOE STURM MADE THE STATEMENT YOU'RE IN TROUBLE. YOU HAVEN'T SPENT THE FISCAL YEAR AND IT BECAME A MAJOR BONE OF CONTENTION WITH EVERYBODY AND SECRETARY HALL SAID TWICE DURING THE MEETING IF THE ARE COMMITTED AND UNDER CONTRACT YOU HAVE NO WITH US IF IT HAPPENS TO RUN OVER WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET IT DONE WITHIN THE FISCAL CONSTRAINT TIME SPAN BUT IF YOU IF SOMETHING HAPPENS BEYOND YOUR CONTROL THAT IT DOES GO ON WE WILL NOT BE GIVING YOU ANY ISSUES WITH IT. SO I WAS GLAD TO HEAR THAT IN THE PAST IT HASN'T BEEN THAT WAY. OKAY I WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT IS ANYBODY TO HAVE A

[9. CHAIRMAN COMMENTS]