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GONNA START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.
LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR THANK YOU HAS BEEN PUBLISHED.
UM, WE HAVE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
I AM NOT DEFLECTED ON THE MINUTES, BUT I DO RECALL BEING HERE.
YOU WERE SURE IF I COULD BE LISTED UNDER STAFF, THAT'D BE GREAT.
WE HAVE MORE THAN ONLY COUNTY MEMBERS LISTED AS MEMBERS, SO, HELLO THERE, MR.
ANYTHING ELSE? THERE'S ONLY LIST COUNTY STAFF.
IT'S JUST BEEN THE COUNTY STAFF.
I MEAN, IF WE, WE CAN, I DON'T SEE IF THERE'S THERE AN ISSUE WITH THAT TO DO THAT, OR IT WAS JUST TRYING TO LIMIT, IT WAS JUST TRYING TO LIMIT WHERE WE DROPPED AND DELINEATED.
I THINK WE SHOULD LIST EVERYONE THAT'S HERE.
IS THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT? I WILL LIST EVERYBODY ON THE STAFF THAT ATTENDS THE MEETING AS WELL.
I'VE GOT, UH, ADDITION OF ADDING STAFF TO THE AGENDA AND CORRECTING THE LAST MEETING.
UM, ARE THERE ANY GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT LANGUAGE CARE TO MAKE BEFORE WE GET STARTED? OKAY.
UM, WHAT WE AGREED TO AT THE LAST MEETING IS A PRESENTATION OUT OF THE AGREED HISTORY OF LUTHER COUNTY NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN, UH, WHICH HAS COME INTO, UH, I CALL IT VOGUE NOWADAYS, PARTICULARLY A SOLO MEETING.
AND MAYBE, UH, ALEX, YOU CAN TELL ADDRESS THAT AS WELL, WHAT YOU'RE DOING GOING FORWARD AS PART OF THAT.
BUT ROB, WOULD YOU KIND OF COME UP AND GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION? OKAY.
I GUESS I CAN, I'LL JUST LET YOU KNOW WHEN.
CAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY'RE, I'VE PRESENTED IN THIS ROOM FOR A WHILE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HAVING COUNCIL COMMITTEE MEETINGS NEXT DOOR, SO, ALL RIGHT.
I'M NOT SURE HOW TO MAKE A, EVERY TIME I TOUCH IT, I USUALLY SEND IT SOMEWHERE.
HE JUST WANT YOU TO, I JUST WANTED TO BE ENTERTAINED.
AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS ED MENTIONED, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING, THE, THE REQUEST WAS MADE TO KIND OF GO OVER THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN, PROVIDE SOME HISTORY, AND KIND OF FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PLAN, WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE SINCE THEN, WHERE DO WE KIND OF, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE AND, AND HOW DO WE TREAT THIS DOCUMENT MOVING FORWARD? UM, AND I'LL JUST, UH, GIVE SOME BACKGROUND, IF YOU WANNA MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN REALLY BEGINS WITH THE SOUTHERN REGIONAL PLAN.
AND THIS IS, UH, GOING BACK TO THE EARLY TO MID TWO THOUSANDS IN SOUTHERN BEFOR COUNTY, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT ALL THE ENTITLED GROWTH THAT WAS PERMITTED, ESPECIALLY IN, IN BEFOR COUNTY, IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
AND AT THAT TIME, THREE JURISDICTIONS, BLUFFTON, HILTON HEAD AND BUFORD COUNTY GOT TOGETHER TO REALLY TAKE A, UH, ASSESS ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED AND LOOK AT THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT ON, ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND COST OF GROWTH.
AND THAT WAS A REAL EYEOPENER.
AND IT REALLY LED TO, UM, I THINK IT REALLY HELPED THE COUNTY IN MESSAGING, UH, WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL 1 CENT SALES TAX REFERENDUM.
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OUR IMPACT FEES AND WERE ABLE TO USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GET A LITTLE MORE, YOU KNOW, GET, REALLY GET THE MESSAGE OUT THAT WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, CATCHING UP TO DO TO, UM, WITH, WITH ALL THE GROWTH THAT WAS APPROVED IN SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY.UM, AT THE TIME THAT THAT PLAN STARTED SHAPING UP, WE STARTED GETTING, WELL, WHAT ABOUT NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY? YOU'VE DONE A SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY REGIONAL PLAN.
WHAT ABOUT NORTHERN? AND I REMEMBER AT THE TIME THINKING, OH, WE DON'T NEED TO DO ONE IN THE NORTH.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THIS GROWTH.
AND, UM, BUT AROUND, UH, 2005, 2006, THERE WERE SOME, UH, I WOULD SAY CONTENTIOUS ANNEXATIONS.
UH, WE HAD IN, IN THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL, UH, THE MOBLEY TRACT, WHICH CROSSED OVER, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY, UM, THE BROAD RIVER, BUT CHICHE RIVER.
UM, THERE WAS, UH, TWO LARGE ANNEXATIONS THAT THE CITY OF BUFORT WAS CONSIDERING.
ONE WAS CLEARED PLANTATION, THE OTHER ONE WAS MCLEOD.
AND THEN ALSO YAMA SURPRISED US ALL IN, IN ANNEX BENDEN.
AND SO THAT REALLY, IN, IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WAS VERY CLEAR WHAT THE OBJECTIVE OF, OF THE NORTHERN, UH, MUNICIPALITIES GETTING TOGETHER.
AND THAT KIND OF SET THE STAGE.
AND THE INTERESTING THING IS, IN THE SPRING OF 2006, THERE WERE, IT WAS HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO EVEN SIT IN THE SAME ROOM.
THERE WAS JUST SO MUCH ANIMOSITY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS, UH, ANNEXATIONS AND ACCUSATIONS AND ALL THAT.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME, THE FIRST SUCCESS OF THAT PLAN WAS, WAS GETTING, YOU KNOW, A STEERING COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER.
AND IT REALLY IS KIND OF THE SAME MAKEUP AS THIS IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT CONSISTED OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FROM THE, THE RE ACTUALLY, WE INVITED YE EMBASSY.
THEY WERE NOT REAL ACTIVE DURING THE, THE ACTUAL, UM, PUTTING TOGETHER THE PLAN THAT WE GOT A STEERING COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER.
AND THEY REALLY LED THE PROCESS.
UM, IN ADDITION, AND I HAD TOTALLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT THIS UNTIL I STARTED RESEARCHING.
WE HAD A TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WAS ALSO VERY ACTIVE DURING THE, THE, THE PROCESS.
AND THIS INCLUDED, THIS WAS NOT JUST STAFF.
IT INCLUDED, UM, THE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE.
IT INCLUDED, UM, MILITARY TRICOM, COMMAND, BEAUFORT, JASPER WATER SEWER AUTHORITY, BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, UM, BOARD OF REALTORS.
THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE INVOLVED.
YOU KNOW, AS WE WERE MAKING POLICY LEVEL DECISIONS, STEERING COMMITTEE, ALL OF THESE FOLKS WERE MEETING TO TALK ABOUT REALLY QUITTING MEAT ON THE PLAN AND, AND WHAT ALL THE, YOU KNOW, IMPLICATIONS ARE AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, THAT, THAT CAME OUT OF THE PLAN.
THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF MEETINGS.
WE ALSO HAD SPECIFIC WORKING GROUPS, UM, LOOKING AT DIRECTION OF GROWTH THAT LOOKED AT THE SPECIFIC LAND USE ISSUES AND ECONOMIC DIVERSITY.
SO IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A VERY ROBUST, UM, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, PROCESS THAT LED TO, TO, TO, TO THE MAKING OF THE PLAN.
UM, AND I WANTED TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, I THINK THE QUESTION, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES, HOW DID THEY COME ABOUT? THIS WAS REALLY ONE OF THE BIG DECISIONS EARLY ON THAT, THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE GOT INVOLVED IN.
AND THE WAY WE APPROACHED IT AT THE STAFF LEVEL WAS TO PRESENT THREE SCENARIOS, YOU KNOW, AND JUST KIND OF AT LEAST TO, TO NARROW THE DISCUSSION OF WHERE TO DRAW BOUNDARIES.
UM, AND SO EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THIS FIRST SCENARIO, THE CITY HAD NOT ANNEXED CLAREDON YET, YOU KNOW, SO THE IDEA WAS, OKAY, WE KEEP EVERYTHING JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE AIR STATION, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZING THAT THE TOWN HAD ALREADY ANNEXED OVER ON TO LEMON ISLAND AND THE MOBLEY TRACK.
SO WE, WE BROUGHT THAT IN, BUT THIS IS A REALLY TIGHT, UH, GROWTH BOUNDARY.
BUT, UM, THEN THERE'S THIS MIDDLE SCENARIO, SCENARIO TWO, WHICH INCLUDED ALL OF PORT ROYAL ISLAND AND LADIES ISLAND IN ADDITION TO LAND OVER HERE, UH, IN, IN PORT ROYAL.
UH, AND ALSO RECOGNIZE THE ANNEXATION OF BINDIN BY YAMAS, AND THEN MAYBE FILLING IN THAT AREA.
AND THEN THREE LOOKED AT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF, IF GROWTH JUMPED OVER TO THE WHALE BRANCH, WHERE WOULD THAT GROWTH LIKELY OCCUR? YOU KNOW, IN AND AROUND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CREEK HERE, AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, IS THAT PAGE OR WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT CREEK? HUSSMAN.
HUPA CREEK? IS THIS HUSSMAN? OKAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO WITH THESE THREE
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SCENARIOS, A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, UH, WE SETTLED ON THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.AND SO THAT'S KIND OF, AND WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE FOLLOWED THAT SINCE THEN.
THIS HAS BEEN THE, THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES IN BURE COUNTY.
IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T JUST GROWTH BOUNDARIES, BUT IT WAS AGREED UPON FRAMEWORK OF FUTURE LAND USE.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ENOUGH, NOT ENOUGH TO SAY, OKAY, WE WON'T GROW PAST THIS POINT.
IT'S LIKE WE, WELL, WITHIN THOSE GROWTH BOUNDARIES, GENERALLY, WHAT TYPES OF LAND USES WOULD, WOULD WE LIKE TO SEE? AND SO THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE CORE COMMERCIAL, REGIONAL, COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL, URBAN RES, RESIDENTIAL, SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL, THESE BECAME THE, THE AGREED UPON FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES.
AND REALLY THIS HELPED INFORM THE THREE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.
UM, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT OF THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN, WE ALL UPDATED OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND THIS FRAMEWORK PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, INFLUENCED THE, THE THREE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS COMP PLANS.
SO IT'S REALLY, I LOOK AT THIS WHOLE GROWTH BOUNDARIES AS BEING TWO THINGS.
IT'S KIND OF, IT'S, IT'S AGREED UPON BOUNDARY, BUT IT'S ALSO AGREED, AGREED UPON FUTURE LAND USE FRAMEWORK, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE'RE ROUGHLY ON THE SAME PAGE, YOU KNOW, WHEN ANNEXATION OCCURS.
IT'S NOT THIS GASPING, BUT, OH, OKAY, WELL THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND, AND, AND PORT ROYAL WILL, YOU KNOW, ANNEX THAT AND, AND THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE AS, AS A COMMUNITY WE'VE AGREED ON, THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECTED FOR THAT AREA.
AND THAT WAS A REAL CHANGE COMPARED TO THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS WHEN EVERY ANNEXATION, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST SEEMED TO GET A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY AGREED UPON FRAMEWORK FOR GROWTH.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT OF THE NORTH, NORTH, YOU KNOW, NORTH REGIONAL PLAN, THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE, THE GREATEST LEGACY COMING OUT OF THAT.
UM, WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT, AND I THINK THE QUESTION WAS, IS THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE STILL NEED TO BE GOING THROUGH? AND LOOKING AT RECOMMENDATIONS AND TICKING THEM OFF AND SAYING, OKAY, WHICH ONES HAVE WE IMPLEMENTED? WHICH ONES HAVE WE NOT? I'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, WELL, LET'S MOVE, I'LL MOVE FORWARD AND THEN I'LL BACK UP.
AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE LIKE THIS IS, THESE ARE THE TRANSPORTATION RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY PUSHED THE IDEA OF A MULTI-USE PATH ON THE OLD PORT ROYAL RAILROADS RIGHT OF WAY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T EVEN, NOBODY SAID SPANISH MOSQUES TRAIL BACK THEN, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT CAME TO FRUITION.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO IDEAS ABOUT, UM, I REMEMBER EXPLORING THE IDEA OF CONTINUING NORTH STREET ACROSS USING THE OLD RAIL BED AND HAVING A PARALLEL ROAD TO, UM, UH, BOUNDARY STREETS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH I STILL THINK, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE A LOT OF MERITS.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD GET UPSET IF, IF, IF THAT WAS, IF THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL WAS MADE INTO A ROADWAY.
BUT THERE WERE IDEAS LIKE THAT, THAT WERE BATTED AROUND THEN THAT, OR I WOULD JUST SAY ARE, WE'VE KIND OF CONSIDERED AND ABANDONED THE PLAN, LOOKED SERIOUSLY AT THE NORTHERN, UM, YOU KNOW, A THIRD BRIDGE, UH, TO LADIES ISLANDS AND HAD ACTUALLY LED TO THE FUNDING OF A STUDY THAT WAS, OR, UM, I THINK IT WENT AS FAR AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT FOR, UH, A THIRD BRIDGE.
THERE WAS THIS CONCEPT OF A WESTERN BYPASS, IF YOU BUILD A THIRD BRIDGE COMING THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THE BURTON AREA AND CONNECTING ON ONE 70.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY TALK ABOUT THAT SINCE, UH, THIS PLAN.
SO I THINK THAT THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA THAT TO TAKE AN OLD PLAN LIKE THIS AND JUST CONTINUALLY BE IMPLEMENTING SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS, I DON'T KNOW HOW FRUITFUL IT IS.
I THINK IT'S A BETTER APPROACH IS TO LOOK AT THE BROAD, UM, ISSUES THAT WE ALL AGREED UPON WHEN WE CAME TOGETHER AND DEVELOPED A PLAN.
UM, AND I'LL BACK UP ONE SLIDE.
UM, THIS WAS, UM, AND I FOUND THIS SLIDE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT, WHEN WE MADE THEIR PRESENTATIONS, UM, WHEN THE PLAN WAS COMPLETE, AND WE WERE PRESENTING IT TO EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES, IT SAID THAT IF THE PLAN IS SUCCESSFUL, IT WILL RETAIN TH
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60% OF NORTHERN BEAVER COUNTY AS RURAL IN NATURE, ELIMINATE ANNEXATION WARS, ALLOW DETAILED COORDINATED GROWTH PLANNING BY COUNTY AND MUNICIPALITIES, AND ESTABLISH A JOINT COUNTY MUNICIPAL SCHOOL DISTRICT SYSTEM FOR KEEPING TRACK OF GROWTH.I WOULD SAY OF THOSE FOUR, I THINK THAT THE THREE FIRST THREE HAD BEEN ACHIEVED, OR, I MEAN, ARE BEING ACHIEVED.
UM, WE WERE REALLY WANTING TO ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND BE ABLE TO TRACK GROWTH, UM, AND KIND OF USE A, A, A DATABASE.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED NECESSARILY.
YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO WORK TOGETHER.
UM, BUT THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A PICTURE OF, OF WHAT THE HOPE WAS IN ADOPTING THE PLAN.
AND I THINK IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR THREE OF THE FOUR, AND I THINK THAT THE THREE THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, MUCH OVERSHADOWED THAT FOURTH ONE AS FAR AS THE IMPORTANCE TO THE REGION.
UM, SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO, I GUESS, BASED ON THIS IS, UM, THERE WERE A, UH, SET OF, UM, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE OR TWO SLIDES, COMMON GOALS IN THE PLAN.
AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS COMMITTEE AND THE THINGS THAT WE EXPLORE, I THINK THAT THIS PROVIDES A REALLY GOOD FRAMEWORK.
UM, AND, AND THESE ARE BROAD STATEMENTS, BUT I THINK THAT THEY COVER A LOT OF WHAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN.
YOU KNOW, THE FIRST ONE TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO COORDINATED GROWTH, UM, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE CURRENT AND FUTURE EDGES OF COMMUNITIES.
THERE'S A, THERE'S 12 OF THESE.
AND THEN I GUESS THE IDEA WOULD BE DURING THE DISCUSSION, IF YOU WANT TO PACK UP AND, AND, AND LOOK AT A FEW, UM, ADEQUATE AND TIMELY REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC FACILITIES WILL BE PROVIDING A FAIR AND EQUITABLE MANNER THROUGH COOPERATIVE PROCESS IN WHICH ALL UNITS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT PARTICIPATE ACT IN THE SPIRIT OF PARTNERSHIP.
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON.
WE COORDINATE SOME THINGS, OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT ADEQUATE.
AND, UM, OH, GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
A STRONG FIBER AND HEALTHY ECONOMY WILL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH A SUCCESSFUL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE LONG-TERM SUCCESS AND VIABILITY OF THE NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY REGION.
I THINK THAT'S AN ONGOING
THE NEXT SLIDE, NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY WILL MAINTAIN A FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE SYSTEM OF FUNDING REGIONAL CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE, OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE NEEDS.
NEXT ONE, NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY WILL BE PROTECTED BY BASELINE STANDARDS FOR NATURAL RESOURCES, INCLUDING SALT, MARSHES, MARSH ISLANDS, COASTAL WATERS, MARINE RESOURCES, TREES, FOREST, WILDLIFE HABITATS, BEACHES AND DUNES, AND OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION THAT EACH JURISDICTION ADOPTS AS PART OF THEIR PLANNING POLICIES AND REGULATIONS FOR THE REEF.
NORTH REEFER COUNTY WILL MAINTAIN A DISTINCT REGIONAL FORM OF COMPACT, URBAN AND SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT SURROUNDED BY RURAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF REINFORCING THE VALUABLE SENSE OF UNIQUE AND HIGH QUALITY PLACES WITHIN THE REGION.
METHODS OF CREATING AND PERMANENTLY PRESERVING A REGIONAL OPEN SPACE SYSTEM WILL BE DEVELOPED IF INTEGRATED ETHNIC AND SOCIOECONOMIC DIVERSITY OF THE REGION WILL BE PROMOTED, UH, WILL BE PROMOTED REGIONALLY, IN PARTICULAR, THE ABILITY OF INDIGENOUS POPULATION GROUPS TO REMAIN THE CONTRIBUTING PART OF THE REGION AND BENEFIT FROM THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME FROM GROWTH WILL BE PROTECTED.
SOUNDS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A RUN ON SENTENCE.
COMPATIBLE LOCAL INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WILL BE SUPPORTED ON A REGIONAL BASIS.
THE NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY REGIONAL PLAN WILL PROMOTE THE BROAD PUBLIC INTERESTS, BUT IT WILL BE MINDFUL OF THE IMPACTS OF PLANNING THAT PLANNING POLICIES HAVE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY INTERESTS.
AND THAT NORTHERN REEFER COUNTY WILL RESULT IN A PLAN, WILL RESULT IN CONTINUING COLLABORATION WITH THE MILITARY FACILITY PLANNERS, AND PARTICULARLY WILL RESPECT THE ACUS CONTOURS.
INTERESTING THING HERE IS THAT WAS THE F 18 ACUS CONT GOVERNMENT, AND THEN THE LAST TWO, I THINK SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.
SO THIS TALKS ABOUT, UM, EACH OF THE JURISDICTIONS INCORPORATING THIS IN THEIR, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.
AND THEN THE LAST SLIDE TALKS ABOUT, UM,
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YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE OF AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.AND SO, I DON'T KNOW, SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, BUT AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE PLAN IN 2007, IT TOOK ABOUT A YEAR FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO CREATE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT.
SO IT'S LIKE A FOUR PAGE DOCUMENT THAT SPECIFICALLY OUTLINES, IT OUTLINES THE RULES OF THE COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITIES WITH REGARD TO ANNEXATION AND UPZONING.
WAS THAT AGAIN, THE, IT, UM, SEVEN OR EIGHT, THE RESOLUTION WAS IN, UH, 2009.
SO THE, THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED LIKE LATE SUMMER, EARLY FALL OF 2007.
AND THEN I THINK THAT THE INTER GARON AGREEMENT WAS EARLY 2009, SO IT WAS A LITTLE, LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR IT TOOK TO FINALIZE THAT LANGUAGE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.
AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE REST I'D KIND OF LIKE TO OPEN UP TO DISCUSSION AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST, FROM LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT AND GOING THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, I JUST DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IT, THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LIKE A CHECKLIST, GO THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SAY, WE DID THIS.
I THINK THAT THE BETTER WAY TO APPROACH IT WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THE COMMON GOALS AND LOOK AT THE PROGRESS AND THINK OF, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW WE COULD BUILD UP THAT.
SO MAJOR AREAS OF, UH, AGREEMENT AND THE RESOLUTION ARE PRETTY MUCH OUTLINED IN THIS.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S FOLLOWED BY AN PAGES WORTH OF BACKUPS HERE TO READ IT, BUT IT, IT'S QUITE CONCISE AND VERY DETAILED.
UM, I THINK WHAT FINDS IT, I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING ALSO AT THIS TIME IS THAT THE SOUTHERN REGION IS LOOKING BEGINNING TO LOOK AT THE ISSUES THAT THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN, UH, ATTEMPTED TO ADDRESS MM-HMM.
UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT ZONING, THEY'RE LOOKING AT ANEX SECTION, THEY'RE LOOKING AT REGIONAL GROWTH, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD FROM STANDPOINT OF, UH, CONTINUITY, CONFLICT OVERLAP, ET CETERA.
UM, AND WAS ONE OF THE DISCUSSION ITEMS AT, AT THE SOLE LOCAL MEETING LAST TUESDAY, LSU, WERE, YOU WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN GOING FORWARD WITH THAT.
DO YOU WANNA JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY WELL, I GUESS I'LL JUST GET DOWN TO WHAT THEY, THE MAIN THING THAT THEY, WE ENDED UP TALKING ABOUT FOR THE JUNE MEETING IS, UH, A SUBCOMMITTEE ON TRAFFIC MISSION AND GOALS, WHICH WOULD BE CALLED JOSH JASPER COUNTY IN BUFORD COUNTY.
AND, UM, EACH LOCALITY IS TO NOMINATE SOMEONE TO BE ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN, UM, HAVE A, A WHITE PAPER, SO TO SPEAK, AT THAT JUNE MEETING, TALK ABOUT, SO THAT, THAT SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS OF THE SOLO ACROSS THE BOARD.
SOMETHING WORTH MENTIONING AS WELL, WITHIN THAT REGIONAL PLAN, THE CITY AND TOWN COORDINATED, COORDINATED THEIR OWN GROWTH BOUNDARIES WITHIN THAT GROWTH BOUNDARY.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT LEFT IN HARDY AND THEM ARE WORKING TOWARDS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE WITHIN MAYBE A LARGER GROWTH BOUNDARY FOR SOUTHERN REEFER COUNTY.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'LL HAVE TO DO.
SO WE'VE ALREADY, YEAH, THE NORTHERN REEFER COUNTY HAS ALREADY DONE IT, SO, YEAH.
SO THAT'LL BE AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION FOR THEM, FOR THEM.
SO I GUESS OUR TOURS KIND OF DECIDE ON WHAT ASPECTS OF THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN, PARTICULARLY THE, UH, AGREEMENT WE WANT TO ADDRESS IN, UH, WE THINK OUR PRIMARY PRIORITIES TODAY.
UH, I THINK OF, WE, AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE LISTED A NUMBER OF ITEMS. UH, TRANSPORTATION WAS HEAVILY TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, UM, GROWTH BOUNDARIES IS ANOTHER ISSUE.
AND I KNOW IN THE PAST YEAR OR SO, WE'VE HAD SOME MINOR ISSUES, UH, WITH GROWTH BOUNDARY CONSIDERATIONS AND ANNEXATIONS.
IT'S, IT'S WHAT IS, WHAT DOES THIS GROUP WANT TO, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TACKLE EVERYTHING, BUT WHAT WE CONSIDER AS AN ISSUE FOR PERHAPS GOING FORWARD WITH THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE WANNA GET A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT WHEN WE UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER, WHAT'S, WHAT APPEARS TO BE A PRIORITIES FOR US RIGHT NOW.
I WAS THROWING THIS OUT THERE.
DO WE WANT TO, WE'LL MEET IN BAY, DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION FOR THE JUNE SOLO MEETING FOR NORTH BUFORD COUNTY? OR, OR NOT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO JUST FOR CLEAR, WHEN YOU SAY TRANSPORTATION, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, UH, I A BREEZE OR, OR JUST TRANSPORTATION IN GENERAL.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THAT MEETING ABOUT REEBOK ROAD, WHICH WAS A GREAT MEETING.
I THOUGHT MOSTLY INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE ABILITY TO HANDLE THE VOLUME.
DO WE WANT GET AHEAD OF, SO WE WANNA GET AHEAD OF, WE COULD BE IN, IN LINE WITH THAT, IF THAT, IF THAT WHAT THE GROUP
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FEELS THAT WE WANTED TO TACKLE IS OUR, A PRIORITY FOR US, THAT WOULD GIVE US A BETTER ALIGNMENT.AND SOME OF WHAT WE THOUGHTLY HERE COULD BE CARRIED FORWARD AND VICE VERSA, BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION TO, UH, CREATIVE SOLUTIONS AND, AND THOUGHTS ABOUT, UH, COOPERATION IN THE REGION.
SO WHAT IS THE PREFERENCE OF THE, OF THAT GROUP HERE? WHAT DO, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU SEE THAT, UH, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THIS PERHAPS THE NEXT ISSUE AS WE GO FORWARD? I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO, I MEAN, SAME TRANSPORTATION POINT.
WE CAN JUST WAIT, GO ALONG WHEN IT'S SO LOCO, YOU KNOW, BUT, SO I'M SORRY TO, TO INTERJECT, BUT I THINK STEPHANIE AND MYSELF AND ROB AND MAYBE A FEW OTHERS WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, THE URBANIZED AREA THAT WAS RECENTLY DESIGNATED FOR THE NORTHERN REGION.
AND, UM, WE, THERE'S A DISCUSSION GOING ON RIGHT NOW OF SEPARATING FROM LATS AND CREATING A NEW MPO VERSUS STAT REMAINING WITH LADS AND WHAT THE FUNDING'S GONNA LOOK LIKE FOR THAT.
IF, IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT'S TAKEN.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THIS, AND THAT WOULD BE TRANSFERRED.
JARED, JARED WOULD NEED TO BE PLATELETS INVOLVED THAT, YEAH.
SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME PRETTY QUICK DECISIONS TO BE MADE IT.
SO THE DEADLINE FOR THE DEADLINE FOR D O T IS AUGUST 15TH.
BUT THAT MEANS EVERYTHING WE'VE GOTTA TELL YOU NEED TO GIVE THEM YEAH.
SO, AND THEY'RE EXPECTING A PACKET.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
SO
AND, AND THAT'S, HAVE THEY GIVEN US ANY MORE DIRECTION THEN IMPORTANT? NOT REALLY.
UM, I MEAN, I THINK IF YOU CONTINUE TO STAY WITH LATS, IT WOULD SIMPLY BE A MAP AND AN AGREEMENT.
MAYBE, UH, THE COUNCILS HAVE TO SIGN SOMETHING THAT, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN QUITE THAT, THE THUMBS UP ON THAT YET.
BUT IF YOU DO DECIDE TO BECOME YOUR OWN MPO, YOU NEED A BOUNDARY, YOU NEED TO DEFINE YOUR BOARD STRUCTURE, HOW IT'S HOUSED.
THERE'S A LOT MORE INTELLIGENCE CREATE CREATING AN ENTIRE STAFF.
CREATE THREE NEW, THREE OR FOUR NEW PLANS.
SO WHO HAS THE LEAD FOR ALL OF THAT?
ELK COG IS DEFINITELY HERE TO HELP.
AND WE'RE STAFFING LATS, RIGHT? SO AS YOU COULD DETERMINE A DIFFERENT POINT OF ENTRY IN TERMS OF HOW YOU WANNA STOP IT.
WELL, I, I, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO, WELL, WHAT I PERCEIVE IS THAT PART OF THE STRUGGLE OF PROVIDING RESPONSES, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S PROVIDING THE RESPONSE AND WHO HAS THE LEAD FOR COORDINATING IT.
MEANWHILE, WE HAVE A, A DEADLINE APPROACHING PRETTY QUICKLY.
UM, YEAH, I, I MEAN, I'M NOT LOOKING, I DON'T WANNA BE PRESUMPTUOUS TO SAY I'M STAFFING IT, SO THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HOLDING BACK.
I MEAN, YOU MIGHT DECIDE YOU WANT TO DO IT INTERNALLY, UM, AMONGST YOURSELVES.
I'M HAPPY TO HELP AND COORDINATE IF YOU WANT HELP WITH FORMING A NEW MPO AND GUIDE YOU AND GET YOU CONNECTED WITH DOT AND WHAT WE NEED.
UM, AND THEN LAST OF COURSE IS A LITTLE EASIER.
THE STRUCTURE'S ALREADY THERE.
SO WE DO, WE NEED REPRESENTATION AND, AND THIS EFFORT TO PARTICIPATE ON IT
WHAT ARE, DO WE, THE URBAN AREAS, THE NORTHERN SIDE, SOME PEOPLE ASSIGNED TO, TO WORK WITH THIS ISSUE? WELL, THAT'S THE PART THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION FROM THE STANDPOINT, IF WE DECIDE TO SPIN OFF ON OUR OWN, THEN WE HAVE TO CREATE AN ENTIRE ENTITY AS A NEW MPO.
IF WE DECIDE TO STAY WITH THE EXISTING AND GROW AND JUST GROW IT AND HOPEFULLY RECEIVE MORE FUNDING, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'RE TWO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE B2, MPOS AND WE'RE, WE AGREE TO STAY AS ONE.
AND THAT'S ALSO A QUESTION THAT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN AN ANSWER TO WITH REFERENCE TO HOW THEY WILL FUND US
WE JUST, IT WOULD BE, THAT'S EXACTLY IT.
WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN THAT THERE'S X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT FUNDS ALL THE NPOS.
IF WE CREATE ANOTHER NPO, IT SIMPLY JUST FRACTURES THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT GOES TO EACH OF THE MPOS.
WE'RE FIGHTING OVER THE SAME MONEY.
SO, I MEAN, TO ME, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M NOT THE DECISION MAKER, BUT IT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE FOR US TO STAY TOGETHER AND CONTINUE THE GROWTH OF LOCOG LEADING THE CHARGE, LATS BEING OUR SECONDARY REGIONAL EFFORTS AND, AND, BUT GET MORE MONEY AND MORE GUIDE SHARE.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, AND NOBODY WILL GIVE US HIS ANSWERS WITH REFERENCE TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A DOABLE SCENARIO.
SO THAT'S THE FRUSTRATION THAT WE'RE ALL AT RIGHT NOW.
AND OF COURSE THEN THIS LOOMING DATE OF AUGUST 15TH, WHICH AS STEPHANIE SAYS, YOU'VE GOTTA GIVE THEM WHO'S GONNA BE THE NEW COORDINATING ENTITY.
YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE THE SETUP DONE FOR THEM.
YOU HAVE TO BASICALLY GIVE THEM THE ENTIRE REGIONAL PACKAGE TO D O T AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
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AND LET, WHICH IS NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE IN A THREE MONTH PERIOD.IT HAVE TO BE IDENTIFIED PACKAGE.
IT HAS TO BE IDENTIFIED COMMITTEES.
WELL, THEY HAVE TO EVEN TELL ME ORGANIZATION.
WELL, YES, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT TOO.
I I, I DO KNOW GENERALLY THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW WHAT IT EXACTLY LOOKS LIKE, I'M NOT TOTALLY SURE.
AND I, I REMIND THEM REPEATEDLY EVERY TIME I SEE OR TALK TO 'EM.
BY THE WAY, HAVE YOU, UM, I DO WANNA JUST MENTION WITH THE FUNDING OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS DISTRIBUTED BETWEEN MPOS AND COGS, UM, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO THEY DID.
THEY WENT FROM, THEY, THEY ADDED AN EXTRA A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TO THAT.
IT WAS, THEY HADN'T BUMPED THAT MONEY UP IN MANY YEARS.
BUT, SO THEY HAVE BUMPED THAT UP AND THEY SPENT A SLOW RAMP UP TO GET THERE.
SO ALL THE MONEY THAT IS IN THAT 200 AND SOME MILLION DOLLAR POT HAS NOT BEEN DISTRIBUTED AMONGST MPOS.
SO WE STILL KIND OF HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, PULL A BIGGER PIECE OF THAT OUTTA LATS.
CAUSE LATS POPULATION, IF THEY USE A POPULATION BASED FORMULA, HAS BASICALLY DOUBLED WITH THE NEW URBAN AREA ADDED TO IT.
OTHERWISE BEING THE SMALLEST MPO IN THE STATE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY, UH, THE BARE MINIMUM AMOUNT BEING DISTRIBUTED
BUT UNDER THE CURRENT CONSTRUCT OF LATS, HOW, HOW ARE THE DOLLARS BEING DISTRIBUTED? AND THE OTHER REALITY IS IT'S SEVEN FOUR, AND IF WE STOOD UP OUR OWN MPO, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN FOR US? AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE NORTHERN REGION PLAN WHERE WE'VE DECIDED TO BE 60% RURAL.
SO OUR POPULATIONS ARE NATURALLY GONNA BE SMALLER THAN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
I JUST HOPE THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY RECOGNIZES THE SACRIFICES BEING MADE IN NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY WHEN THEY CONTEMPLATE TRAFFIC PLANNING.
SO, BECAUSE WE'VE TAKEN THIS ON FOR WHAT, HOW MANY YEARS NOW? AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY HAD SOME IMPACT WHILE WE'VE WATCHED THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY GROW AND A LOT OF FUNDING MOVED THAT WAY.
I JUST HOPE THAT THEY'RE MINDFUL OF WHAT WE'RE DOING OVER HERE.
SO, AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM OF COURSE, IS THAT IN DOING A SEPARATION, BEAVER COUNTY WOULD BE IN BOTH, WHICH IS LIKE, I DON'T THINK IT EXISTS ANYWHERE ELSE, DOES IT? OH, ACTUALLY IT IS NOT TRUE.
WE DO, THERE IS ONE IN, IT'S, UM, LIKE HORRY COUNTY AND UP THERE THEY HAS SOME SEPARATION IN ONE OF THOSE AREAS, BUT IT'S NOT COMMON.
AND IT, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY FROM A, FROM A MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT, HOW YOU DO THAT.
THEN THIS ONE WOULD BE THE SMALLEST ONE.
INSTEAD OF FLAT BEING, IF WE, IF WE, WE WOULD BE THE SMALLEST.
WE TECHNICALLY WOULD BE THE, IF WE FORMED A NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY SEPARATE FROM LAST, IF LA IS NOW THE SMALLEST POPULATION BASED, I'M NOT SURE WOULD BE THE SMALLEST, BUT WE WOULD BE THE YOUNGEST, THAT'S FOR SURE.
WHERE WE BE THE SMALL, PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE.
SO, UH, THE ISSUE BEFORE US, AND, AND WE TEND TO IDENTIFY IN OUR ACTION ITEMS, BUT, UH, LIST, UH, LAST MONTH, UH, AS PROJECT POTENTIALLY WAS A QUESTION OF AN ADDITIONAL NPO, THE ISSUE OF TRANSPORTATION AND SO ON.
IT APPEARS THAT THE SOUTHERN REGION IS LOOKING AT THE TRANSPORTATION.
UM, THE ISSUE FOR US, I I'M SINCE HERE, THERE'S JUST NO, UH, GREAT DESIRE TO GO TO AN ADDITIONAL MPO BECAUSE WITH FRACTURED OF SPENDING AND, UH, SETTING IT UP IN THE TIMEFRAME TO ACTUALLY TO DO IT.
OR IS THAT AS THE REPRESENTATIVE ON LAST? I MEAN, I'M, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.
I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE CITY, BUT I MEAN, I THINK WE WANNA LOOK VERY, VERY STRONGLY AT WHAT BENEFIT THERE IS TO HAVING AN ADDITIONAL M P O S COMPARED TO GROWING THE NM P THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
AND WE JUST WANTED, WE WANTED TO GET MORE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY'VE NOT REALLY BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.
CAN WE GET SOMEONE HERE MAYBE PERHAPS AT THE NEXT MEETING TO HELP US? WE HAVE SOMEBODY ALWAYS LEADS, I DUNNO, COMPANIES PREPARED.
I COULD HAVE SOMEBODY FROM D O T, MAYBE THE LEAST CALL IN, BUT, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SHARE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THOUGH.
THEY DON'T KNOW UNTIL THEY KNOW WHAT THE MPO SITUATION IS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE ONLY, UM, OUT URBAN AREA.
THE ONLY, UM, CHANGE, THERE'S SOME CHANGES POSSIBLY HAPPENING OVER BY CLEMSON BECAUSE THERE'S THE PENTON THERE'S, THERE'S SOME MERGING THAT, THAT MIGHT NEED TO HAPPEN THERE.
SO THERE'S SOME SHIFTING GOING ON IN THE STATE.
SO THEY'RE, AND THEY HAVEN'T COMPLETELY DECIDED WHETHER THE FORMULA THAT THEY DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, HOW IT'S DISTRIBUTED IS BASED ON POPULATION OR IF THEY USE SOME OTHER FORMULA LIKE FICO MILES TRAVELED AND I, A LOT OF THE COAST, SOME OF THE COASTAL COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY MYRTLE BEACH, HAVE BEEN ARGUING THAT POPULATION IS FRUSTRATING THEM FOR THEM BECAUSE THEIR POPULATION GROWS AND SHRINKS.
SO, AND WE'RE NOT, WE'RE SUBJECT TO THAT AS WELL.
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THERE'S STILL SOME DECISIONS THEY GOTTA MAKE.CAN I ASK A QUESTION AND THIS GROUP IN MAY, I MEAN, WOULD IT, WOULD IT HELP STAFF AND PLANNERS IF WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO, TO WEIGH ALL THE PROS AND CONS ABOUT THE MPO? YOU SEE NODDING? YEAH.
NO, I THINK IT WOULD BE, I I THINK WE'VE ACTUALLY SENT THAT MESSAGE ALREADY.
THERE'S JUST NO, UH, OFFICIAL, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S NO OFFICIAL INFORMATION THAT STAFF CAN PROVIDE TO, TO A DECISION.
IT'S JUST AS IF THE STATE WANTS US TO GIVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS.
THEY WANT US TO MAKE A DETERMINATION WITHOUT A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND THEN THEY'LL TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY'LL DO.
IT'LL BE AN UNINFORMED CHOICE.
SO AN UNINFORMED DECISION, SORT OF LIKE TUESDAY
SO IN ORDER TO MAKE IT INFORMED, SORRY, AN INFORMED DISCUSSION DECISION, WE NEED TO HAVE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND WE NEED SOMEBODY HERE TO ANSWER, TELL THOSE QUESTIONS FOR US.
AND SO, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO BRING SOMEBODY TO THE NEXT MEETING? YES.
AND I WOULD MOVE THAT WE BRING SOMEBODY TO, TO THE MEETING FROM D OT, BE ON THE PHONE DURING HERE.
THEY'VE BEEN AT THE LEAST I WILL.
THEY CAN BE VIRTUAL, BUT I WOULD TRY TO GET THEM IN THE ROOM.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, AT NINE O'CLOCK.
WHAT'S OUR NEXT, LAST MEETING? UM, OUR NEXT LAST MEETING IS THE FIRST FRIDAY OF JUNE AND SECOND JUNE 2ND.
IT WOULD BE RIGHT AFTER THIS MEETING.
I WOULD PROBABLY AIM FOR THE, THIS MEETING.
WHO IS THE D O T PERSON FOR MPOS? UH, WELL, THE, UH, UM, MICHELLE PETERSON IS, UH, BRENT LEWIS.
UM, OUR KIND OF THE HIGHER LEVEL.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A PLANNER THAT WE WORKED ELECTRONICALLY WITH TOO.
SO IF THIS, WE MADE A MOTION, BUT I WILL SECOND THAT.
WOULD YOU RESTATE THE MOTION? I I WOULD MOVE THAT WE ASK INVITE A MEMBER OF, OR A STAFF MEMBER, UM, OF D O T WHO STAFFS THE MPOS WHO HAS THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE, AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO, TO MAKE A BETTER AND MORE INFORMED DECISION.
THIS FURTHER DISCUSSION, WOULD THIS BODY THEN COULD, IF WE COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO STAFF OF ALL THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WHO DO WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH AT THAT MEETING? IS THAT THE INTENT? I THINK, YEAH.
I I LIKE YOUR IDEA, ALICE, OF HAVING KIND OF A PROS AND CONS ANALYSIS, HAVING STAFF.
OKAY, WHY WOULD WE WANNA DO THIS AND WHY WOULDN'T WE WANT TO? WELL, WE COULD ASK QUESTIONS AND EACH OF THE STAFF WITH MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY WILL PROVIDE INPUT TO THAT.
BUT I THINK THEY NEED TO COORDINATE WITH LOCO BECAUSE A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE STAFF DON'T HAVE FULL VISION OF WHAT ALL THAT ENTAILS.
DO YOU THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE WILLING TO GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THE FUNDING ASPECT? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ARE GONNA SURFACE VERY QUICKLY.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA TELL US.
THAT'S, THEY, THEY DON'T WANNA COME COMMIT TO IT CUZ IT'S SUCH A MOVING TARGET RIGHT NOW.
AND I THINK THAT IS THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE FOR ALL OF US IS IF WE DO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND IT NEGATIVELY AFFECTS THE FUNDING SIDE OF IT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU REVERSE THAT.
SO, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS WITH D O T I.
THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING TO CREATE MORE ANSWERS THAN, UH, ONE QUESTION PROVIDE, OR I'M SORRY, CREATE MORE QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE ANSWERS.
JUST THAT COULD BE PART OF WHAT WE EXPLORE WITH THEM, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.
AND CAN WE REVERSE THIS AS WE ABSOLUTELY.
SIGN TO ENGAGE IN IT? IT, IT'S, IT IS JUST HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE STANDING UP OUR OWN SIMILAR FAMILY HAD A BREEZE FROM NORTHERN VIEW COUNTY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE CONS OF, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY SO DO THAT.
AND SECOND IT, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION OPPOS MOTION PASSES RECORD TO THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I GUESS IT'S JUST A REMAINING QUESTION IS, UH, DO WE, DO WE WANT TO TIE IN SOMEHOW IS A TRANSPORTATION ISSUE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE SOUTHERN REGION AND THE SUB COMMITTEE OF STAFF WANNA TIE INTO THAT? WE'VE ASSUMED THAT THE REPRESENTATIVES TO THE LOCAL THE SAME TO THIS COMMITTEE.
UH, I JUST KEEP ABREAST OF THE CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF THEIR GOALS AND WHAT THEY PICK AS THEIR NEXT ISSUE.
SO WE'LL BE, SO WHOEVER IS AT SO LOCO APPOINTED TO THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, WE CAN JUST CARRY IT FORWARD.
WHATEVER COMES OUT OF OUR MEETING IN MAY.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE CHAIRING THAT, YOU'RE PULLING THAT TOGETHER RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T WE GET FURTHER WORD ON THAT.
I NEED TO VOLUNTEER, BUT I'M, I KNOW
WELL, WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER RIGHT HERE.
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WASN VERY MUCH THERE.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON, UH, THAT YOU, UM, JUST A COUPLE THINGS TO CLEAR UP HERE BEFORE WE ADJOURN.
UM, AND CAN I BREAK ONE SECOND? SURE.
WE HAD A WORK SESSION AND SUE AND AND ALICE WERE BOTH THERE WITH THE CITY AND WE HAD, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION AND THAT THE REVISITING THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE CITY WOULD STAND OF ITS OWN PLANNING COMMISSION AND THAT WHICH WOULD AFFECT BOTH PORT ROYAL AND THE COUNTY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF HOW WE, WE CURRENTLY DO METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO THAT MAY BE A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE AND TO BRING BACK INTO HERE BECAUSE IF INDEED WE, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO, I'M JUST, I WANT TO AIR THIS WITH, WITH WITH THE COMMITTEE.
UM, IF WE DECIDE TO STAND UP OUR OWN AND, AND, AND WE HAVE SOME TANGIBLE REASONS WHY WE FEEL IT'S AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE, THE FEASIBILITY AND THE, THE FUNCTION OF IT.
BUT IT AFFECTS PORT ROYAL IF WE DECIDE TO DO OUR OWN, IT AFFECTS THE COUNTY STANDPOINT OF THE COMMON PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE.
IT ALSO AFFECTS THE LAND USE REVIEWS BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN SORT OF THE CONDUIT.
NOW WE'VE ALWAYS DONE LAND USE THROUGH N PIC AS WELL FROM THE NORTHERN BEAVER COUNTY, ESPECIALLY WITH MILITARY INSTALLATIONS.
BUT, UM, THOSE ARE ALL EFFECTS THAT WOULD HAVE IF WE ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
SO I JUST WANNA BRING IT UP AND JUST MENTION THAT THAT IS, THIS IS, THIS IS THE BODY THAT REALLY SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT HOW IT WOULD, HOW THE EFFECT OF DOING THAT WOULD THEN RESONATE THROUGH ALL OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS.
DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT THE NEXT MEETING AS IF WE HAVE TIME? I THINK THE TRANSPORTATION, YEAH, THE TRANSPORTATION MAY TAKE IT OVER, BUT I JUST WANT IT TO BE IN EVERYBODY'S MIND BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING.
WE'RE NOT MOVING UBER FAST ON MAKING ANY DECISIONS ON THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A PLATE FULL.
BUT, UM, BUT IT HAS BEEN, IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IN OUR PLANNING AND DISCUSSIONS AND THERE'S SOME THOUGHT THAT THAT MAY BE A DIRECTION FOR US.
SO YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US, GIVE US A STATUS AT THE NEXT MEETING.
I'M LOOPING DOWN IN CUZ I HAVE, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT PROCESSES WITH THE MILITARY AND, AND NOW WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE AIR STATION, BUT NOW WE HAVE A REDEVELOPMENT OF A NAVAL HOSPITAL TO THINK ABOUT TOO.
AND, UM, PARIS ISLAND WITH, YOU KNOW, RESILIENCY.
IT'S NOT JUST THE AIR STATION ANYMORE, SO.
WELL IT'S NEVER REALLY A, IT'S NEVER JUST THE AIR STATION I KNOW FOR YES.
WELL, MY TIMING ELEMENT OF THIS DISCUSSION DECISION TO BE MADE, I DON'T THINK WE'VE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A TIMELINE.
IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL BUNDLE OF, OF TEXT AMENDMENTS TO OUR CODE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.
MAYBE YOU CAN JUST, IF YOU WOULD, YOU'LL GIVE US A STATUS OF WHERE YOU'RE STAND AT AT THAT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE ON TOPIC FOR THE NEXT CODES.
YEAH, WE WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE AN UPDATE BY THEM, BUT AS SOON AS YOU OKAY.
WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL CHECK WITH YOU.
OBVIOUSLY ALL THE JURISDICTIONS HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE CONVERSATION, SO, ALL RIGHT.
UM, THE CALENDAR OF SCHEDULED MEETINGS, IT WAS INCLUDED WITH A PROPOSAL THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH YOUR, UH, S AND AGENDA.
UM, AS YOU WILL NOTE, WE DID AGREE THAT IT WAS GONNA BE THE THIRD FRIDAY OF THE MONTH THINKING THAT THAT'S WHEN WE GENERAL GENERALLY WERE MEETING, BUT IT WAS ON THE FOURTH FRIDAY OF THE MONTH THAT WE WERE MEETING.
PLUS IT WAS A CONFLICT THIS MONTH, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE, THE WHITE HALL, UM, COMMEMORATION.
THAT FACT WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A MEETING LAST FRIDAY IN ANY EVENT.
SO, UH, WE GOT THEIR PROPOSAL FOR THE FOURTH FRIDAY OF THE MONTH, UH, AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THIS, UH, CONFERENCE ROOM.
IS THAT A, IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? DO WE WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT WE VOTED ON LAST MONTH OR DO YOU WANNA AMEND THIS? THESE ARE THE FOURTH FRIDAYS.
THESE ARE THE FOURTH FRIDAYS THAT ARE ON THE SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER AND NOVEMBER.
OH, CAUSE THE THINGS YEAH, NOVEMBER WAS BECAUSE OF THE SEPTEMBER.
HOW COME IN SEPTEMBER? IT MAY BE THE FOURTH.
SEPTEMBER IS THE FIRST MAY ON THE FIRST.
YEAH, THE, THE FIRST IS THE FIRST FRIDAY.
I WAS JUST THINKING IF THERE'S FIVE FRIDAYS
SO, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE MEETINGS ON THE FOURTH FRIDAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CALENDAR THAT YOU GOT.
MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST AGREE TO THIS CALENDAR.
WHY DON'T WE JUST AGREE TO THIS CALENDAR RATHER THAN SAY THE FOURTH FRIDAY.
LET'S JUST AGREE TO THE CALENDAR AS WE HAVE IT PRINTED.
SINCE THERE'S SOME CHANGES IN THERE WITH, LET'S NOT CONFUSE EVERYBODY.
UM, AND WE HAVE AN AGENDA FOR, UH, NEXT MONTH.
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GOT TWO ITEMS. WE ALSO HAD A LIST THAT WE HAVE, UM, THAT TOOK US ATTACHED ON IDENTIFYING PROJECTS.ANYBODY WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT LIST AT THIS TIME? DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT UP NEXT MONTH, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE PERHAPS WOULD, UH, INVITE FOR OUR DISCUSSION AS WE MOVE OFF FORWARD.
THESE WERE THE ITEMS THAT WERE INCLUDED, UH, IN LAST MONTH'S DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT THEN IF, IF, YOU KNOW, CONTINUED, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COMES UP THAT'S TIMELY, UH, THEN YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED THAT TIME BOUND, AND BY ALL MEANS, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION.
ANYTHING OF, ANY GENERAL COMMENTS? ANYBODY WOULD CARE TO MAKE ANYTHING? WELCOME TO MEETING THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGAIN, IS, IS, UH, BEEN REMANDED TO THE ISSUE OF THE CPO AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE TAX CHANGE, UM, DEALING WITH, UH, ON THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UM, IT'S COMING UNDER A FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON MONDAY.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH THAT ISSUED TWO READINGS OF COUNTY COUNCIL AND BEEN APPROVED TO THIS POINT.
UM, I I LOOK AT THE MEETING BEING LARGELY REQUIREMENT, LEGALLY REQUIREMENT THAT REMAINING FOR THE TAX CHANGES.
ROBERT, I'M SORRY, I MISSED THE, UH, THE REASON WE'RE LOOKING AT IT IS BECAUSE IT'S REQUIRED BY STATE LEGISLATION TO LOOK AT THE REMAND YES.
CAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANT EXCHANGE.
BOTH THE STATE, UH, ENABLING LEGISLATION AND OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COULD SAY THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEEDS TO REVIEW SOMETHING.
PRIOR TO FINAL ACTION BY COUNTY COUNCIL.
TYPICALLY FURTHER, IT'S TYPICALLY EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS, BUT THIS TIME IT'S BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THIS AMENDMENT.
SO IT'S, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ONE.
CAUSE IT REMINDS ME ASKING WHAT ARE WE MEETING FOR? YEAH.
UM, SO WE'RE MEETING AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE A, OBVIOUSLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT, WHICH I EXPECT WILL BE SIGNIFICANT.
UM, COULD I MENTION ONE OTHER THING? YES, GO AHEAD.
UM, DAVID AND YORK AND I, UH, HOSTED A MEETING WITH EBONY ON TUESDAY AND IT IT IS ON, ON OUR WEBSITE TOO.
BUT SHE'S WILLING TO GO ANYWHERE, ANY, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME TO TALK ABOUT OUR, UM, REASSESSMENT, THE COUNTY'S REASSESSMENT, WHICH IMPACTS EVERYBODY.
SO, AND SHE'S GONNA SET UP IN THE FALL SOME MEETINGS AT THE LIBRARY TOO.
FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND SHE DID A PRESENTATION FOR US AT THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE AS WELL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HAVE A MOTION FOR RETIREMENT.
WE DID IT LESS THAN
CASE TO BE FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.