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CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY.I THINK, UH, MANY OF US HAVE, UM, ANOTHER APPOINTMENT AFTER THIS, SO WE'RE GONNA GET RIGHT INTO IT.
UM, FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO TODAY IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE BUFORD JASPER HOUSING TRUST.
THE FUNDS OUT OF THAT NAME, RIGHT? VICTORIA? YES.
UM, AND VICTORIA SMALLS, WHO IS THE SOLO APPOINTEE TO THE, UM, TRUST BOARD IS GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.
VICTORIA SMALLS, TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS JUST A QUICK PRESENTATION OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO OUR FIRST AND SECOND QUARTER, JANUARY TO PRESENT GENERAL FORMATION.
OUR OFFICIAL LAUNCH WAS HELD IN JANUARY FOR DEVELOPMENT AND GOVERNANCE.
WE PUT A COUPLE BOARDS TOGETHER AND I'LL GET THAT, GET THOSE SLIDES TO YOU.
ESTABLISHED FOUR COMMITTEES, GOVERNANCE, FINANCE, PROJECT EVALUATION, FUNDING AND DEVELOPMENT, DEFINING COMMITTEE PRIORITIES AND GOAL SETTING, ADDING OUTSIDE MEMBERS.
AND WHEN WE SAY OUTSIDE MEMBERS, EACH JURISDICTION WAS ASKED TO BRING IN MEMBERS TO EACH BOARD THAT THEY THOUGHT WOULD BRING SOME GOOD IDEAS, BRING SOME NEW THOUGHTS TO THE BOARD IN ORDER TO EXPAND AND GET THIS THING ROLLING.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU THAT, GIVE THAT TO YOU ONCE WE GET TO THAT SIDE.
PIPELINE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER MEETINGS THAT BRAD HAD WITH A COUPLE OF DEVELOPERS, UM, THAT'S ALREADY KIND OF ON BOARD AND HAD SOME IDEAS OF THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO DO.
UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF 'EM.
FOR OUR THIRD AND FOURTH QUARTER, JULY THROUGH DECEMBER, WE'RE GONNA RESTART RECEIVING FULL APPLICATIONS.
LET ME GO BACK TO THE LETTER OF INTENT.
THE LETTER OF INTENT WENT OUT ABOUT A MONTH AGO TO DEVELOPERS, TO DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS.
ALL OF YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THAT LETTER OF INTENT THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE OUT TO POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THAT CONTACT MYSELF OR EITHER YOUR, UH, APPOINTEE TO THE BOARD THAT YOU HAVE.
SO THAT'S A MAJOR PART OF THIS THING.
WHEN WE JUMP IN OUR THIRD AND FOURTH QUARTER, WHICH IS GONNA GO THROUGH JULY TO DECEMBER, WE WILL START RECEIVING FULL APPLICATIONS, APPROVED FIRST PROJECTS AND FINANCE.
UH, DEFINE EACH GOVERNMENT INTEN ENTITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGIES AND INCENTIVES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH IT KIND OF FAST, BUT YOU WILL HAVE THIS POWERPOINT.
WE'LL SEND IT OUT TO ALL THE JURISDICTIONS TO PUT ON THEIR WEBSITE.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE IS GONNA BE HELD AS GONNA BE, UH, MATT DAVIS OF HARVILLE, IS THAT CHAIRMAN.
THIS COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS POLICIES TO THE BOARD PERTAINING TO GOVERNANCE ISSUES AND PROCESSES, INCLUDING THE ORIENTATION AND TRAINING OF NEW BOARD MEMBERS, THE EVALUATION AND IMPROVEMENT OF THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE BOARD, AND THE RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDATION OF BYLAW CHANGES.
AND AGAIN, UH, HOLDING THAT COMMITTEE RESPONSIBLE IS GONNA BE MATT DAVIS OF HARDY BILL, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, MICHELLE GSON.
DEVELOP AND MANAGE THE HOUSING TRUST FUND BUDGET IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FUND ADMINISTRATOR.
COMMUNITY WORKS, PREPARE AND PRESENT ONGOING ORGANIZATIONAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, CONDUCT AND ANNUAL CONDUCT AND ANNUAL AUDIT AND PRESENT REPORTS TO THE BOARD AND PARTICIPATING JOINT EXISTING.
LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL, IT'S ALL HERE.
AND WE'LL ALSO, UH, GIVE IT TO YOU GUYS IN THAT POWERPOINT.
DIXON LANIER IS OUR DEVELOPMENT AND FUNDING COMMITTEE.
SHE'S A PORT ROYAL APPOINTEE, UNDERSTANDING THE TOOLS, RESOURCES AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO HOUSING TRUST FUNDS, VARIOUS STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS FOR PROGRAM FINANCING AND OPERATIONAL SUPPORT.
I'M GONNA SKIP DOWN TO THE THIRD ONE.
DEFINE POLICY AND PROGRAM OPPORTUNITIES THAT HELP TO OVERCOME LOCAL AND STATE VARIOUS TO THE PRODUCTION AND PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
DEVELOPMENTS TO INCLUDE BUT NOT LIMITED TO ZONING AND PLANNING POLICIES, FINANCIAL GAPS AND LAND AVAILABILITY.
PROJECT EVALUATION AND FINANCING COMMITTEE IS GONNA BE TONY ALRI AND HE OF HILTON HEAD COMMITTEE.
ESTABLISHED UPDATES AND APPLIES AGREED UPON CRITERIA FOR FUNDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, DEFINE DEAL AND PROJECT FINANCING OPPORTUNITIES, MAKE RESUME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUNDING AND FULL UNDERWRITING.
I'M GONNA SKIP TO THE LAST ONE.
EVALUATE FINANCING PRODUCTS AND PROGRAMS. CONSIDER INITIATIVE PROJ APPROACHES.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES TO GET THEM ON BOARD, WHETHER THEY'RE, UM, JUST A, A REGULAR MEMBER NOT HOLDING A TITLE, JUST TO GET IDEAS FOR THESE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES SO WE CAN GET THE BALL ROLLING.
SO, PROJECT EVALUATION, EXCUSE ME, A LITTLE NERVOUS.
SO, GENERAL EVALUATION AND THRESHOLD CRITERIA FOR OUR DEVELOPERS.
SO, UM, A NUMBER OF UNITS AT LESS THAN SIX AT OR LESS THAN 60% AMI COMPOSITION OF UNITS AMI SERVED.
JUST GONNA KIND OF SKIP AROUND.
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LOCATION AND ACCESS TO EMPLOYMENT CENTERS IN THE REGION OF THE AREA.AND THIS GENERAL EVALUATION THRESHOLD CRITERIA IS FOR OUR DEVELOPERS.
SO THIS IS WHAT OUR DEVELOPERS NEED TO HAVE IN MIND WHEN THEY COME TO THE TABLE, WHEN THEY WANNA KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
THESE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT WE WANT THEM TO HAVE ALREADY IN MIND OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING TO THE TABLE FOR US.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SLIDE? ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? NO.
BRAD HAS SAT WITH A, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UM, DEVELOPERS.
SO THE PIPELINE DISCUSSIONS HAVE 16 DIFFERENT PROJECTS, VARIOUS STAGES OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, ALMOST ALL REGIONS CURRENTLY REPRESENTED.
UM, ESTIMATED NEED FOR FINANCING AND SUBSIDY WILL BE 8 MILLION, $750,000.
MIXED INCOME, MIXED INCOME AND MIXED USE PROJECTS FOR PROFIT AND NONPROFIT ENTITIES AND FAITH ORGANIZATIONS.
RENTAL AND HOME OWNERSHIP NEED FINANCING INCENTIVES AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.
SO THIS IS SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT BRAD HAS BEEN HAVING WITH THE DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO HIM SO FAR.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.
UM, AND LIKE AGAIN, I SAID WE'RE WORKING, UM, MIGHT NOT BE ALL OUT IN THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY KNOWN YET, BUT THAT LETTER OF INTENT, IF YOU GUYS HELP US GET THAT OUT TO WHO WE ARE TRYING TO GET ON BOARD, WE CAN GET SOME THINGS DONE.
MIGHT NOT BE TODAY, MIGHT BEEN TOMORROW, BUT IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET IT IN THE MACON, WE'LL KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE SOME PROMISING THINGS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN THE LINEUP.
SO KIND OF GO OVER THE UPDATE THAT WE GOT FROM SENATOR DAVIS YESTERDAY.
I ATTENDED THAT OVER IN HILTON HEAD.
UM, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE HERE IS WHAT HE'S WORKING TO PUSH FOR US.
3 MILLION FOR THE BEFOR JASPER HOUSING TRUST FUND.
2 MILLION WILL GO TO HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
AND, UM, IF PASSED, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S BEEN INTRODUCED, IT'S IN COMMITTEE AND IF PASSED, IT SHOULD BE WELL AND ESTABLISHED BY JULY.
SO WE'RE PUSHING OUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES TO, UM, GET THIS OUT FOR US, TRY AND GET IT PASSED.
SO IF YOU HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR ANY OF THESE REPRESENTATIVES, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE REACH OUT TO THEM SO THEY CAN GET ON BOARD.
THIS DOLLAR AMOUNTS CAN DROP AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO WHAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO, UM, ACROSS THE REGION.
SO THAT STA WHAT THE UP UPDATE ON THE S 2 84 AND THE HOUSING TRUST FUND BUDGET REQUEST.
AND THAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS LISTED THERE IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET, UH, FROM COLUMBIA.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY HARD.
PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU GO TO THE COMMUNITY WORKS WEBSITE.
ALSO, IF YOUR JURISDICTION HAS NOT PUT THIS INFORMATION ON THEIR WEBSITE OR DOES NOT HAVE A COMMUNITY WORKS VIEW FOR JASPER HOUSING TRUST FUND ON THEIR PAGE, PLEASE GET WITH MYSELF OR CARRIE CUZ WE'LL WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THAT ACROSS THE BOARD SO IT WON'T BE SO MUCH, UM, DIFFERENT INFORMATION.
WE ALL WANNA KIND OF HAVE THE SAME WEBPAGE SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS, UH, WITH THIS FUND AND TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE LEARNED.
UH, YESTERDAY FLORIDA LEGISLATION JUST PASSED A MAJOR HOUSING BILL, UH, LAW, SB 1 0 2, THE LIVE LOCAL ACT MARKS IN HISTORIC INVESTMENT IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH TAX BREAKS, INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT'S UP TO 811 MILLION IN FUNDING.
SO WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK, YOU KNOW, WE ALL GET IDEAS FROM DIFFERENT STATES, DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS.
SO WE JUST WANT TO TRY AND PIGGY BANK PIGGYBACK THAT TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, MONEY HERE IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
BILL ALICE, COULD YOU AND JOE SH SHARE THE FLORIDA BILL? HOW, HOW ARE THEY FUNDING IT? DO YOU KNOW? I CANNOT SAY I DO WANT, I AM GONNA PASS THE TORCH TO TAMMY.
SHE'S MY BACKER, SO GIVE HER THAT.
YOU WANT ME ON THE MIC RIGHT HERE, PLEASE? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY POWERFUL.
UM, SO THAT FLORIDA BILL WAS, UH, WAS GENERAL FUND MONEY.
UM, THEY DO HAVE TWO PROGRAMS IN FLORIDA.
ONE IS CALLED SALE AND IT SUPPORTS, UH, I TOOK THE SUB APARTMENT, UH, INITIATIVE PROGRAM AND THEY ACTUALLY HELP USE THOSE FUNDS TO FILL THE GAPS IN RENTAL, RENTAL DEVELOPMENTS FOR LIKE TAX CREDIT DEALS.
UM, AND SO THEY PUT IN ADD ADDITIONAL GENERAL FUND MONEY.
THIS IS CURRENTLY A ONE-TIME, UH, ALLOCATION OF ABOUT 250,000 INTO THAT PROGRAM.
AND THEY ALSO HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED SHIP.
AND IT'S THE STATE HOUSING INITIATIVE PROGRAM THAT IS A PROGRAM THAT IS FUNDED THROUGH A DEED RECORDING FEE IN FLORIDA.
UM, THEY ADDED TO THAT PROGRAM AS WELL.
AND THAT WHAT THE WAY THOSE FUNDS RUN IS THEY START AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN EACH LOCAL JURISDICTION CAN APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS.
IT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
UM, WE HAVE A STATE HOUSING TRUST FUND HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA THAT'S ALSO FUNDED THROUGH DEED RECORDING FEES.
UM, BUT EACH NONPROFIT HAS TO APPLY
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TO THAT COMPETITIVELY.YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
WE'RE THINKING THAT MAYBE THERE COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO GET THOSE FUNDS TO LOCAL TRUST FUNDS AS AN IDEA.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE MENTIONED TO SENATOR DAVIS AS WELL.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING, AND I'M HAPPY TO SEND A SUMMARY, UH, TO MAYOR WILLIAMS, UM, THAT, UH, THAT WE BROKE DOWN IN FLORIDA.
UM, CUZ THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF TAX INCENTIVES WITHIN THAT BILL.
LIKE YOU CAN GET TAX FREE REBATES ON CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS.
IF YOU'RE BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU CAN GET, UH, PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT.
SO THERE'S CERTAIN OTHER PIECES IN THERE THAT MADE IT THE 811 MILLION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MAYOR MURRAY? ALL RIGHT.
WELL VICTORIA, THANK YOU FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION THIS MORNING AND HIGH FIVE TO THE BOARD AND THE STAFF FOR THE, THE PROGRESS THAT YOU'VE BEEN MAKING, UM, ON THE POLICY COMMITTEE THAT, UH, DIXIE LANIER IS CHAIRING, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATED SEEING, UH, THAT THIRD BULLET POINT THAT YOU CALLED OUT DEFINING POLICY AND PROGRAM OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO OVERCOME LOCAL AND STATE BARRIERS.
UH, ANY THOUGHTS TO HOW ONCE YOU'VE SORT OF CAPTURED THOSE LOCAL BARRIERS, A PROCESS BY WHICH YOU WOULD COMMUNICATE THOSE BACK TO LOCAL JURISDICTIONS AND MAYBE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS BODY IS THE APPROPRIATE JURISDICTION TO BRING THOSE BACK, UM, SO THAT THEN WE CAN TAKE 'EM TO OUR INDIVIDUAL JURISDICTIONS AND TRY TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE BARRIERS? UM, CUZ I'VE MAINTAINED THAT WE'VE GOT A RESPONSIBILITY TOO TO TRY TO CLEAR SOME OF THOSE REGULATORY HURDLES AND, AND, AND MAKE INDUCEMENTS WHERE WE CAN FOR AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING TO MAKE THIS MONEY GO EVEN FURTHER THAN IT IS.
SO ONCE WE, WE HAVEN'T, THE COMMITTEES HAVEN'T MET YET, SO THIS IS JUST A GUIDELINE OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON.
SO THERE WILL BE A PIPELINE TO GET IT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE ONCE WE MEET.
UM, AND IT'LL PROBABLY BE ME BRINGING IT BACK.
I AM A PART OF, SO I'M NOT ON THIS, BUT EVERYTHING WILL REPORT BACK TO ME AND THEN I'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU GUYS.
MY SECOND QUESTION IS, I'VE, I'VE, I'VE IN PASSING TALKED TO SEVERAL THREE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS, PRIMARILY TAX CREDIT DEVELOPERS.
UM, AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE EACH EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE CONDITIONS AS THEY STAND MAY NOT BE AS VALUABLE AS THEY WOULD'VE LIKED THEM TO BE, UM, TO THE POINT WHERE THEY MIGHT EVEN NOT APPLY.
UM, AND SO SORT OF ASKING FOR ADVICE, I'VE ENCOURAGED THEM TO CAPTURE THOSE CONCERNS ON, ON PAPER AND AN EMAIL AND SEND THEM TO BOARD LEADERSHIP, SEND 'EM TO WENDY, UH, AND TO STAFF LEADERSHIP.
IS THAT THE APPROPRIATE I CAN SHARE TOO? UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
SO AGAIN, PART OF OUR JOB AS THE FUND ADMINISTRATOR THROUGH COMMUNITY WORKS WAS TO REVOLVE THE FUNDS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT? SO THE INITIAL PROGRAM WAS AGREED THAT WE WOULD DO A LOAN TYPE FINANCING APPLICATION.
UH, WE ARE TAKING THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE'VE HAD, OF THOSE 16 DEVELOPER MEETINGS, I THINK I'VE BEEN AT ALL OF 'EM,
SO WE HAVE ASKED FOLKS TO ONE, APPLY FOR WHAT THEY THINK THAT THEY REALLY NEED.
SO WE REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PIPELINE LOOKS LIKE.
I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR TWO AND A HALF MILLION.
ONE AND A HALF MILLION THAT WOULD TAKE THE WHOLE FUND, RIGHT? OKAY.
SO, WHICH IS WHY LEVERAGING COMMUNITY WORKS CAPITAL.
UM, SO MAYBE THERE'S AN INNOVATIVE WAY WE COULD REDUCE SOME THINGS.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE ENCOURAGED DEVELOPERS TO DO IS APPLY FOR WHAT YOU THINK YOU NEED, SHARE WITH US THOSE CONCERNS.
TO YOUR POINT, JOT THOSE DOWN.
BECAUSE IF WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PRODUCT, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRAM, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE DEMANDS ARE.
SO WE HAVE ENCOURAGED THAT AS WELL.
UM, LAST NIGHT, SENATOR DAVIS ALSO TALKED ABOUT S 2 84, WHICH HAS PASSED THE SENATE AND IS IN COMMITTEE TODAY, I BELIEVE IN THE HOUSE.
SO, UM, AND THAT, THAT PROFILE IS FOR THE, THE, UH, BUDGET REQUEST? OR IS THAT THE, UH, PROFILE FOR T 2 84? THIS IS FOR THE ACTUAL BILL.
FOR THE ACTUAL BILL THAT WILL, SO IT'S IN COMMITTEE, IT'LL GO TO WAYS AND MEANS RIGHT THERE, THE PASSES, THEN IT WOULD GO TO THE GOVERNOR.
THE HOUSE, OBVIOUSLY THE FULL HOUSE.
SO WHAT, UH, SENATOR DAVIS ASKED EVERYONE LAST NIGHT WAS TO, IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE ALREADY AND YOU SUPPORT S 2 84 TO PLEASE CONTACT YOUR, YOUR LEGISLATIVE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES, UM, AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO SIGN ON TO IT.
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD SLIDE TO KEEP, JUST TO RE KNOW WHO THE, WE'RE GONNA SEND IT OUT TO OUR OTHER JURISDICTION.
SO YOU CAN PUT IT ON YOUR OP, YOU CHECK FOR HOUSING TRUST ON PAGE.
ANYONE ELSE? CAN I ADD ONE THING, MAYOR ON? OH, CERTAINLY.
UM, ONE THING, UH, IN THE LEGISLATION, THE 2 84 LEGISLATION PART OF, UH, ONCE IT PASSES, WHEN IT PASSES, RIGHT? NOT IF WHEN OH, WHEN IT PASSES.
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WILL BE A HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS.THAT'S PART OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF COURSE.
UH, BUT THE GOAL OF THAT WOULD BE TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THOSE BARRIERS AND SHARE SOME OF THAT.
SO IT WILL ALREADY BE A PART OF THIS LEGISLATION TO ACTUALLY UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS.
SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF IT, MAYOR, I THINK IS GOOD CUZ THAT WILL BE A PART OF THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT EACH JURISDICTION WOULD HAVE TO DO THIS ANALYSIS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I THREW THAT OUT THERE.
TAMMY, THANK YOU FOR, FOR BRINGING THAT UP AND I'LL, I'LL GIVE TOM DAVIS A LOT OF CREDIT.
I WAS ACTUALLY IN COLUMBIA ON THIRD READING IN THE SENATE WHEN HE WAS DEBATING THIS BILL ON THE SENATE FLOOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE, UH, THERE WERE SOME FOLKS TRYING TO THROW ROADBLOCKS TO THIS BILL.
AND, AND I, I PERSONALLY THINK THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, ANALYSIS IS A PRETTY HIGH BURDEN FOR, FOR MOST OF US.
UM, AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY OTHER SUGGESTION IS THAT AS WE MAKE COMMUNICATIONS WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVES, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND PIECE IS WE WANT YOU TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT IF THERE WAS A WAY FOR YOU TO STRIKE THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, HOUSING ANALYSIS OUT OF THE BILL SO THAT MAYBE IT GETS RESOLVED IN CONFERENCE, UH, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD TAKE SOME STRINGS OFF OF THE LOCAL JURISDICTION SO THAT WHEN THAT MONEY IS AVAILABLE, UM, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO DO A VERY EXPENSIVE AND COMPLICATED HOUSING ANALYSIS AS A PART OF OUR, OUR COMP PLAN.
UM, CUZ OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT A FEW YEARS AND SPEND A LOT OF MONEY JUST TO USE, TO USE THE FUNDS, WHICH I THINK IS AGAIN GONNA PUT, PUT SOME REAL STRINGS ON OUR ABILITY TO MAKE, MAKE THOSE VALUABLE DOLLARS.
ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU LADIES.
UM, BEFORE WE GO INTO NEW BUSINESS, UM, A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME ABOUT GETTING EMAILED THE AGENDA.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC, I KNOW WE UPDATED THE BOARD.
IF ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC, UH, IS NOT RECEIVING THE AGENDA FOR SO LOCO, PLEASE LET, UH, CARRIE GUZMAN KNOW.
UM, AND OR EMAIL ME AND MAKE SURE YOU ARE GETTING THE AGENDA, WHICH YOU ALL PROBABLY OBVIOUSLY ARE
AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, BETWEEN CURRY AND, AND ROBIN AND HARDY BILL, I, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR, BECAUSE WHENEVER I SLIP UP, THEY'RE THERE TO MAKE SURE I GET BACK ON TRACK.
UM, NEXT I'M, UH, ON NEW BUSINESS.
I'M GONNA START WITH THE PRESENTATION OF THE NEW SOLO LOGO THAT INCORPORATES OUR EXPANDED MEMBERSHIP.
AND MR. KEVIN ICARD OF, UH, BLUFFTON IS GOING TO DO THAT.
WITH THE, THE ADDITION OF THE, THE, THE NEWEST MEMBERS, UH, TO THE SOLO CODE BOARD, WE FELT THAT, UH, AS WE STARTED GETTING EVERYONE'S LOGOS UP HERE, WE'RE STARTING TO GET REALLY CONFUSING.
UM, WE'VE GOT SOME THAT ARE A LITTLE BLURRY, SOME THAT ARE CLEAR.
UM, SO SOME THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO READ.
UH, I FELT THAT, UH, WE NEEDED TO, TO COME UP WITH A TRUE SOLO CODE LOGO.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE, UH, FROM A STAFF LEVEL, WE'VE DECIDED TO, UM, KIND OF GET A MORE, UH, COHESIVE LOGO FOR SOLO.
UM, SO WE'VE LISTED ALL OF BOTH COUNTIES AND THE, UH, MUNICIPALITIES, UH, FELT THAT THIS IS JUST A, A CLEANER DESIGN.
SO THAT WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE IS EQUAL ON THIS.
UH, WE'RE NOT FOCUSING MORE ON THE, THE, THE INDIVIDUAL SEALS, BUT A TRUE GROUP.
SO WE HAVE OUR OWN, UH, LOGO WITH THIS.
SO, MOVING FORWARD, UM, THIS IN ESSENCE WHAT THE FUTURE AGENDAS WILL LOOK LIKE, UM, AND JUST WANTED TO GET IT TO THE BOARD.
UM, UH, MAYOR WILLIAMS, UH, AS WELL AS MAYOR SKA HAVE ALREADY LOOKED OVER THIS.
I BELIEVE MOST OF YOU KIND OF SEEN THIS AS WELL.
UH, BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE OFFICIAL PRESENTATION OF THE NEW LO MOVING FORWARD.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, FIRST THING WE'LL DO IS, UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A VOTE FROM THE BOARD TO ADOPT, UH, ADOPT OR NOT ADOPT THIS.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS? I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAN.
IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, IT'S ALPHABETICAL.
SO NOBODY'S, UH, EVERYBODY'S, UH, GIVEN EQUAL BILLING.
SO, UM, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS LOGO.
I MOVE
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ON THE AGENDA, THE, THE FUTURE AGENDA.WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH KEVIN, AND TO STAFF IN BLUFFTON.
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR A GREAT JOB.
WE'LL MAKE SURE TO SEND THAT OUT TO EVERYONE.
UM, LAST MONTH WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, ZONING ORDINANCES, UH, EXAMINING THE DIFFERENCES, PARTICULARLY THOSE ADJACENT.
UM, AND, UH, WE ALL FELT THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TOPIC TO PURSUE.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, SO I CAN STRUCTURE THIS AND, AND GET IT SCHEDULED, I'D LIKE IT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AMONG THE BOARD.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT IT? UH, HOW DO WE STRUCTURE A CONVERSATION REGARDING, UM, THE REVIEW OF ZONING ORDINANCES? DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, UH, GROWTH BOUNDARIES, ZONE SHOPPING? HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE WANNA STRUCTURE THIS CONVERSATION? SO THIS IS JUST GONNA BE AN OPEN CONVERSATION AMONG EVERYBODY.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE FROM YOUR, YOUR OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN TERMS OF LEARNING ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO, UM, HELP EACH OTHER WITH THESE, THESE CONVERSATIONS? YES.
I, I'D SAY FIRST OF ALL, UM, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUES ARE WITHIN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
UM, WHAT ZONING ISSUES ARE YOU FACING? WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? WHAT'S COMING AROUND? UM, THAT, THAT WILL HELP US TO DETERMINE WHERE WE'RE LACKING, WHERE WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING CERTAIN ITEMS. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST AND FOREMOST.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHO TO PRESENT THAT WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO THROUGH A HUGE ELEMENT REWRITE, UM, STARTING NOW.
UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING READY TO GO INTO THE THIRD, FOURTH READING.
UM, SO FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE'RE HIRING CONSULTANTS TO COME IN TO HELP.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND.
BUT, UM, IT WOULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, BE THE ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER THAT WOULD COME IN AND PRESENT THAT.
UM, THIS IS A POWERFUL NIGHT, STEVEN.
UM,
I THINK THE GROWTH ISSUE, OKAY, I DID SEE YOU POP IN.
UM, IT MIGHT BE D IT MIGHT BE BASED ON KIND OF MAYBE DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, JUST SPEAKING ABOUT BLUFFTON, WE HAVE BLUFFTON HARDY, BILL, BEAUFORT COUNTY, WHERE WE'RE MISHMASH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN AND OUT, SO ARE WE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH MULTI-FAMILY SQUARE FOOTAGE OF COMMERCIAL NUMBER OF ROOFTOPS.
BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS FABULOUS, UM, CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, MAY RIVER PC, I THINK PRESERVATION, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL, THAT'S JUST SUCH A MIX RIGHT NOW AND YOU KNOW, JUST A MINUTE ON THE RIGHT OR LEFT, NOW YOU'RE IN HARDY BILL.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO, WHAT ARE OUR TOP AREAS OF CONCERN THAT WE WANNA BE ON THE SAME PAGE FOR? AND THEN I'M GONNA LET MAYBE KEVIN CAN SPEAK AT SOME POINT ABOUT OUR DISCUSSION WE HAD AT LATS LAST MEETING.
UM, JARED HAD A FABULOUS THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THESE DEVELOPERS ARE GETTING TRAFFIC STUDIES, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF TEASED FROM THEIR BROTHER NEXT DOOR, WHY AREN'T WE REQUIRING THEM TO USE WHAT Y'ALL HAVE AND DO AN OVERALL PICTURE OF BIGGER PICTURE OF REAL TRAFFIC.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF MY FAULTS.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHO MAYBE IT'S PLANNING THAT COMPARES WITH THE MAP SOMEHOW AND FIGURE IT OUT AMONGST THE WHOLE REGION.
DOES EVERYONE HAVE GROWTH, UH, UM, A A GROWTH BOUNDARIES THAT YOU'VE ADOPTED OR, OR NOT? I THINK YOU HAVE TO DURING FOR THE COMP PLAN, DON'T YOU? IS A REQUIREMENT ALL THE COMP PLANS.
SO PERHAPS AS A SUGGESTION, MAYBE WE COULD REVIEW EVERYONE'S GROWTH BOUNDARIES.
OBVIOUSLY HILTON HEAD HAS, HAS, HAS ITS BOUNDARIES BY WATER, BUT UM, THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS MAY HAVE UM, MAY THAT IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO SEE EVERYBODY'S, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR NOT? I'M SURE WE CAN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE CAN GET STAFF TO LIKE COURT,
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GET EVERYBODY TO SEND THEM TO ONE LOCATION.WE CAN SHARE THAT OUT BEFORE NEXT MEETING.
UH, WHO I THINK THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE WILL BE ROBIN THAT WILL BE PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER FOR THE PACKET.
WOULD BE BETTER TO, CUZ WE'LL BE IN HARDY BILL NEXT TIME, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE, THIS IS PROBABLY FOR JUNE NEXT, NEXT MEETING.
UM, THE, THE TOWNS OF YI BEAUFORD AND PORT ROYAL WILL DO THEIR CPI CIP P PRESENTATIONS.
SO WE'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY ELSE.
UM, SO MAY WILL BE DEVOTED TO THAT.
SO THIS IS FOR JUNE'S, UH, AGENDA.
WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY IF, IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO TAKE THEIR GROWTH BOUNDARY THAT THEY'VE ADOPTED FROM THE MOST RECENT COMP PLAN OR WHATEVER, MOST RECENT THAT THEY'VE ADOPTED, AND THEY CAN GET IT TO CARRIE OR, UM, CARRIE AND ROBIN, SINCE THAT'LL BE THE MEETING HERE.
WE CAN INCLUDE THAT WITH THE PACKET AS PART OF A PRESENTATION.
JUST HAVE THAT FOR EVERYBODY TO AT LEAST SEE.
UM, AND THEN I WAS GONNA FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MAYOR SOKO SAID.
JUST SOME OF THE CONVERSATION THAT ERIC AND I HAVE HAD HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, AS WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE NEXT THING TO WORK ON, LIKE WE DID FOR STORMWATER, IS TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC IMPACT.
AND IF WE WANT TO LOOK MORE TO MORE UNIFORM, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY, UM, WHETHER IT'S USING A THIRD PARTY FROM THE COUNTY'S ON CALL LIST OR WHETHER IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE ASK FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT WE HAVE AT UNIFORM, THAT THEY'RE GOING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US HAVE PUDS.
DO WE WANT 'EM TO LOOK AT A PU WIDE IMPACT VERSUS JUST GOING TO THE NEXT MAJOR INTERSECTION? DO YOU KNOW, SO THE LAST PERSON'S NOT GETTING STUCK WITH THE BILL AND, AND KIND OF LOOKING AT SOME GUIDELINES THAT MAY BE MORE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE, THE COUNTIES LIKE WE HAVE WITH OUR STORMWATER ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF ADOPTING UNIFORMS. SO AGAIN, LIKE THE MAYOR WAS SAYING, IF YOU GO DOWN 2 78 OR UP ONE 70, YOU GO FROM JASPER COUNTY TO BEAUFORT COUNTY.
IT'S NOT, WE ONLY CARE UP TO THE STOP SIGN.
WE CARE FOR THREE MILES AND THEN WE'RE NOT BEING UNIFORMED THROUGHOUT.
SO I WAS JUST LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT MAY BE MORE OF A POLICY THAT WE CAN ALL ADOPT UNIFORMLY THROUGHOUT BOTH ACCOUNTANTS.
THE, UM, I, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH, WITH WHAT STEVEN SAID AND, AND MAYOR SOKA, ONE OF THE THINGS BEING PART OF THAT, AND I'VE HEARD FROM MAYORS FROM PORT ROYAL AND, AND BUFORD ABOUT THE COMMUTING TIMES, HOW THAT'S DRAGGED OUT TO COME DOWN ONE 70 TO HILTON HEAD TO BLUFFTON TO WORK.
AND, UM, IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE FOR OUR COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND WE STRUGGLE WITH, WELL, WHAT CAN WE DENY OR NOT DENY BASED ON THE IMPACT OF THE TRAFFIC? ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE D O T AND THEIR TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS ALL SAYING IT'S SAFE.
BUT WE AS, AS PEOPLE WHO USE THOSE ROADS EVERY DAY KNOW VERY MUCH, WELL THIS IS NOT, SO WE'VE BEEN FACED WITH, WELL WHAT DO WE DO? DO WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DENY? DO WE HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK FOR $40 MILLION TO FIX THE ROAD? WHAT DO WE HAVE? WHAT DO WE DO WHEN WE HAVE, UM, DEVELOPMENT IN THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT TRAFFIC AND, AND HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THESE QUESTIONS? THAT, THAT, DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? THEN, YOU KNOW.
AND, AND IT GOES SPECIFICALLY LIKE JUST WHERE WE MET, WHAT WAS IT ABOUT SIX OR NINE MONTHS AGO ON THE, WAS IT CAR TARVER TRACK, CAR TRACK.
UM, WHERE IT BUTTS UP RIGHT AGAINST THE TOWN.
AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS GONNA BLEED RIGHT OVER INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING FOR YOU WHEN WE'RE RIGHT UP AGAINST YOUR BOUNDARIES AND THAT WE'RE WORKING CONCURRENTLY.
SO WOULD, UM, WOULD JARED FRAK BE A GOOD PERSON TO TALK ABOUT THAT? MM-HMM.
UM, I'LL LET GLEN GO FIRST AND THEN I'LL MAKE YOUR COMMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE GENERAL SUBJECT OF, UH, ZONING ORDINANCES.
THREE YEARS AGO, MAYBE FOUR YEARS AGO, THE TOWN RETAINED A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND TELL US HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING.
UH, SHE CAME BACK THREE OR FOUR MONTHS LATER AND SAID, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM,
UM, BUT THEN SHE, I, I'M TELLING YOU THE TRUTH.
AND THEN SHE CAME BACK AND THE PRIMARY THING THAT SHE RECOMMENDED WAS BONUS DENSITY.
WE ADOPTED BONUS DENSITY AS PART OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH WE CALL THE LMO.
AND WE GOT ABSOLUTELY NO TAKERS.
OR AT LEAST IT DIDN'T WORK FOR US MM-HMM.
AND SO I THINK LEARNING FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES EXPERIENCE HOPEFULLY CAN
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HELP GET THIS BETTER FOR ALL OF US.SO IN JUNE WE WANT TO DO THIS, AND I THINK THIS IS BEYOND THE WORDS ZONING ORDINANCES.
THAT'S JUST ONE PIECE TO THE PUZZLE.
I THINK THE MEETING IN JUNE IS GOING TO SET OUR DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO TAKE AS A GROUP TO COMMONLY COME TOGETHER TO SOLVE THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE INDIVIDUALLY.
THEY MAY BE ZONING, THEY MAY BE GROWTH BOUNDARIES, THEY MAY BE ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLANS.
THEY MAY BE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR THE WHEREWITHAL TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN ALREADY SHARE.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE OUR FOCUS IN JUNE IS WHAT DATA DO WE NEED? WHAT INFORMATION DO WE WANT? HOW DO WE BEGIN TO PUT IT TOGETHER SO THAT NOW THIS IS THE NEXT BEST THING FOR US TO DO.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
I, UM, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, T I DATABASE OR, AND I WAS REALLY ENCOURAGED BY THE LAST DISCUSSION INTO D OT IS PUTTING SOME ENERGY BEHIND THAT.
SO THE MORE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO PLAN TRANSPORTATION, I THINK THE THE BETTER OFF WE'LL WE'LL BE.
UM, BUT I THINK TO, TO DOVETAIL ON MAYOR PERRY, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, GLEN, YOU SORT OF TOUCHED ON IT, UM, SIMILAR TO HOW WE'RE DOING THE CIP P PRESENTATIONS.
IT, IT WAS INFORMATIVE FOR ME TO SEE WHAT ALL THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE DOING, HOW YOU'VE SORT OF ALIGNED YOUR PRIORITIES, THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT FUNDING AND HOW YOU'RE BRINGING YOUR C I P PROGRAMS FORWARD.
CUZ FRANKLY, THE CITY WE'RE, WE'RE STRUGGLING A BIT TO ORGANIZE OUR CRP PROGRAM, BUT WITH OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, I'M, I'M, I'M CONVINCED WE'RE GONNA GET BACK ON TRACK.
UM, BUT TO THAT POINT AROUND GROWTH MANAGEMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WENT ALL IN ON FORM-BASED CODES IN, IN 2018.
UM, AND WE'VE STARTED A CODE REVIEW PROCESS.
WE'RE DEDICATING ONE MEETING EVERY MONTH TO GO THROUGH AND REFINE THOSE CODES.
UM, AND WE PRETTY MUCH DON'T DO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ANYMORE, BUT I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS STILL SORT OF HEAVILY GO THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
SO WOULD IT BE INTERESTING TO HAVE EACH JURISDICTION SIMILAR TO OUR C I P PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS TO MAYBE COME IN AND DO VERY BRIEF PRESENTATIONS ABOUT, UH, SORT OF CODE PHILOSOPHY, HOW IT ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND MAYBE LAY OUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, UM, THAT, THAT WE'RE FACING.
JUST SO AS A PEER GROUP, WE, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF SPITBALL HOW, HOW EACH OF US ARE SOLVING THOSE, THOSE PROBLEMS. MM-HMM.
BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT SOME OF YOU OTHERS ARE DOING ON A, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE WE'RE FACING FROM A CODES AND ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.
JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T LIKE THE URGENCY THING, BUT I THINK Y'ALL ALL ARE SEEING THE DESPERATION OF THESE DEVELOPERS TO FIND LAND AND LOOK AROUND TO SEE WHERE THEY CAN BUILD THE MOST.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE IN THESE THINGS.
NOT PUSH THIS OFF A YEAR, BUT IF IT IS THE TRAFFIC, IF WE SEE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY IS SOMETHING THAT COULD AT LEAST LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.
MAYBE THERE'S SOME HIGH PRIORITIES THAT WE CAN TAKE BACK THAT COULD BE BAND-AIDS MAYBE, OR AT LEAST SOMETHING TO GIVE US SOME TEETH INTO HOLDING GOLFERS, SLOWING DOWN.
I MEAN, BLUFFTON HAS FOUND YOUR SHELL RING, BY THE WAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL STARTING TO SEE IT.
SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME TAKEAWAYS WE CAN WORK ON WHILE WE'RE EDUCATING OURSELVES.
UM, CAN I ADD ONE THING ON? UM, ALSO IF WE, JUST TO KIND OF BALANCE BOTH THE MAYORS, UM, I THINK IF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WANTING TO TAKE ON AND, AND, AND BRING FORWARD SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, I THINK WE COULD TREAT THAT ALMOST LIKE WE DID THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND CREATE A COMMITTEE AND LET THE JURISDICTIONS LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE ALL HAVE, WHAT COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE WHOLE BOARD.
AND THEY COULD BE WORKING ON THAT WHILE WE HAVE SOME OF THESE OTHER CONVERSATIONS.
IF, IF, IF Y'ALL THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL MM-HMM.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
JUST A COUPLE POINTS ON, UM, ONE THING WE'RE DOING AT THE TOWN IS WITH THE TRAFFICKING BACK ANALYSIS, WE'RE SETTING A TIME LIMIT ON IT, TIME LIMIT THAT HAS A LIFESPAN OF X.
UM, CUZ WE'VE HAD SOME PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THAT, UM, AFTER TIME HAS GONE ON, A NEW TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE, WAS NOT DONE.
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WOULD, I WOULD WARN YOU KNOW, THAT AS YOU GO THROUGH THAT AND LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT AN EXPIRATION DATE TO THAT, UM, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BOUNDARIES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE OUTLIERS OFF OF HILTON HEAD AND, AND WHAT THE OTHER, UM, COMMUNITIES ARE LOOKING TO DO IN EXPANDING BOUNDARIES, BECAUSE THAT HAS A DIRECT EFFECT BACK ONTO THE ISLAND.AND, UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING AS TO THE THOUGHT PROCESS FOR EACH MUNICIPALITY MM-HMM.
BECAUSE THAT DIRECTLY AFFECTS NOT ONLY OUR EMPLOYEE BASE, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING ELSE TO HILTON HEAD.
SO I LIKE WHERE THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT, IT IS, UM, IT IS URGENT.
AND, AND I THINK ONE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD BETWEEN ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES IS THAT WHERE DO WE WANT TO GO AS A GROUP? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING TO BE IN THE LOW COUNTRY? UM, AND, AND ESPECIALLY AS, AS THE TOWNS GROW AND MITIGATE OUT, WHAT IS IT THAT THE, THAT THIS LOW COUNTRY FEEL IS, AND WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO PROTECT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE 1% GREEN TAX THAT'S OUT THERE TO, TO TAKE DENSITY OFF THE TABLE.
THAT NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
UM, IF MUNICIPALITIES ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND BOUNDARIES FOR WHAT PURPOSE IS IT IS, IS IT TO PROTECT LAND THAT'S OUTSIDE, TO KEEP IT GREEN, TO KEEP IT SAFE, UM, TO, TO REDUCE THAT OVERALL OVERDEVELOPMENT TO REDUCE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT.
SO I THINK THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE PERTINENT AS TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH.
UM, TO, TO THE PREVIOUS POINT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS NEEDS TO BE DONE CONSISTENTLY.
UH, WHAT I HEAR FROM NOW, I USED TO HEAR ABOUT STORM WATER AND, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR MY CONSTITUENTS IS IT'S ALL ABOUT TRAFFIC.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY EMAILS I'VE GOTTEN ABOUT THAT, BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE REGIONAL LOOK AT TRAFFIC IS WHAT WE NEED.
AND, AND ON THE TRAFFIC TOO, REMEMBER THAT THE BIGGER PICTURE IS LAPSE MM-HMM.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE CAN TAKE OUR THOUGHTS THERE TO GET STEPHANIE TO START INITIATING THOSE THINGS.
WE'RE STEPHANIE, SHE SAYING, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA PUT STEPHANIE AT THIS TABLE, BUT THAT IS THAT BIGGER PICTURE AND THAT'S THE GROUP WITH THE MPO THAT'S GETTING THINGS DONE ON IT.
SO I THINK WE'RE A GOOD RECOMMENDING BODY FOR HER.
ONE OF THE BEST PUBLIC MEETINGS TURNOUT WE HAD ABOUT REIMAGINING REEBOK ROAD WAS LAST WEEK AND WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT.
THAT'S, PEOPLE CARE, THAT'S WHAT THEY, THEY WORRY ABOUT.
ESPECIALLY, WE DON'T WANNA SAY THE H WORD, BUT HOW ARE WE GONNA GET OUT WHEN IT HAPPENS THE NEXT HURRICANE? YEAH.
EVEN IF THERE ISN'T, I'M NOT TELLING YOU HOW I GO MR. MR. MAYOR, I, I REALLY LIKE STEPHEN'S SUGGESTION TO, TO FORM A, A SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, TO SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT AT TRAFFIC.
UM, I THINK THAT MAKES, MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE CUZ IT'S A PRETTY COMPLICATED ISSUE.
UM, AND I'M, I'M SURE THAT GROUP COULD GET TOGETHER AND COME BACK WITH A, A SOUND RECOMMENDATION ALSO WORKING WITH D O T BECAUSE I THINK THEY, THEY OFFER SOME PROMISE IN THE DATABASE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW MUCH RESOURCES THEY'RE GONNA PUT THAT AND WHAT THE TIMING IS, I THINK IS PROBABLY A QUESTION MARK GIVEN THE SIZE OF THEIR BUREAUCRACY.
UM, THE OTHER THING I'LL, I'LL ADD IS, IS WHERE IT MERGES WITH THE ZONING SORT OF TOPIC IS, I I, YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE CAN ROAD AND BRIDGE OUR WAY OUT OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT MESS THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA FACE US.
I MEAN, ROADS AND BRIDGES AND TRANSPORTATION TRUCTURE ARE ABSOLUTELY APART.
RIGHT? AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A, A RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT.
AND I THINK THANKS TO THE COUNTY'S LEADERSHIP AND, AND JARED WITH THE LAST COMMITTEE AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER THE NEXT YEAR IS REAL PROGRESS.
BUT WHERE IT COMES TO ZONING AND DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, WE'VE ALSO, IN THE CITY, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS THROUGH THE LENS OF HOW DO WE REDUCE CAR TRIPS OVER TIME? AND THAT'S A MORE MIXED USE, MORE COMPACT, MORE WALKABLE, BETTER ACCESS.
I MEAN, AGAIN, THANKS TO THE COUNTY FOR THE GREEN, THE TRAIL PLAN.
UM, AND THEN FOR THE MUNICIPALITIES, HOW DO WE MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS SO THAT WE'VE GOT A, A MORE ROBUST, UH, CYCLING AND PEDESTRIAN AND TRAILS.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN JUST, UM, RO ROADS AND BRIDGES AND EXPANDING CAPACITY.
I THINK WE'VE GOTTA TAKE A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT AS A, AS A REGIONAL GROUP.
MAYBE THE SUBCOMMITTEE SORT OF TOUCHES INTO THAT.
UM, BUT I DO THINK THE, THE ZONING DESIGN STANDARDS AND TRANSPORTATION ALL SORT OF WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
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SO IF I, IF TO FOLLOW UP ON STEVEN'S SUGGESTION, UM, UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH SUBCOMMITTEES IN THE PAST, UM, IS GET A VOLUNTEER SOMETIMES KICKING AND SCREAMING, UM, FROM EACH JURISDICTION AND, UH, ASSIGN, UH, AHEAD OF THE COMMITTEE TO MOVE IT FORWARD.UM, I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE A VOLUNTEER TO BE AHEAD FOR HOWARD, A VOLUNTEER, BUT
THIS IS BEING RECORDED TOO, RIGHT? OKAY.
SO WE COULD, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE VIDEOTAPE.
UM, I THINK, UM, EACH JURISDICTION SHOULD, UH, ANALYZE IT AND OR GO FIND A, UH, A VOLUNTEER TO SERVE WITH MS. HOWARD, UM, AND, UM, GET THIS SUBCOMMITTEE GOING.
AND AS A SUGGESTION, YOU COULD DEFINE IT THE WAY YOU, YOU WANT.
HOW SHOULD WE DO TRAFFIC ANALYSIS? MM-HMM.
WE, WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH IT EVERY TIME EVERYBODY SAYS, WELL, I'LL PUT A LIGHT THERE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE A LIGHT EVERY 10 FEET AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE SOLUTION AND MAYBE IT IS.
SO YOU COULD TAKE THE SUBCOMMITTEE IN MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND BE INCLUSIVE OF A LOT OF THINGS.
BUT IT'S MORE THAN TRAFFIC ZONING IF WE'RE PUTTING THIS WHOLE THING TOGETHER, RIGHT? YES.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE THOSE FOR THE MAY MEETING SO WE CAN ESTABLISH THE BOARD AT THE MAY MEETING? OR WHY DON'T WE? THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION ALSO.
SO WHY DOESN'T EVERYBODY BRING BACK FOR MAY, UM, THEIR, UM, NOMINEE TO BE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE? OKAY.
MR. MAYOR, IF I, I MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION.
UM, IN ADDITION TO BRINGING BACK OUR NOMINEES, IF SOMEONE ALICE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, SORRY, CREATE JUST SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, BRIEF, YOU KNOW, MISSION OF, OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, THAT WE COULD MAYBE VOTE WITH, WITH THE APPOINTEES TO SORT OF STAND UP IN A, IN A PACKAGE IN MEG.
UM, I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE.
BUT THE, WHEN WE DID THE ONE ON THE STORMWATER, THAT GROUP, BECAUSE IT WAS STAFF USUALLY CUZ THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND BREATHE, IT KIND OF CREATED THAT RATHER THAN US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I, I LIKE THAT IDEA, BUT I THINK LET'S GET 'EM AND LET THEM CONSIDER IT TO BRING IT TO US.
I, I THINK YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD STAFF DO IT BECAUSE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS GET, YOU KNOW, PULLED IN MANY DIRECTIONS.
AND THE STAFF, IF YOU PUT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I USUALLY HAVE TO GO BACK AND ASK MATT, WHAT, WHAT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE INFORMATION IS? SO NEED ADMISSION STATEMENT.
MATT WAS SO GOOD AT IT BEFORE HE WORKED HIS ARM OFF.
SO IF I CAN JUST RECAP AND IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY COMMENTS, JUST JUMP IN.
UM, FOR MAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE C I P UM, PRESENTATIONS, UM, FROM BEAUFORT, PORT ROYAL AND YI.
AND, UM, AS ALWAYS I WILL REACH OUT TO BRAD AND VICTORIA TO SEE IF THEY NEED TIME TO, UH, GIVE US ANY FURTHER UPDATE FROM THE TRUST.
AND, UM, AT MAY ALSO, WE WILL, UH, EVERYONE WILL BRING THEIR NOMINEES TO BE PART OF THIS, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND ALICE, IF YOU COULD PREPARE IN THAT TIME, UH, SOME SORT OF WHITE PAPER ON, ON THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMMITTEE.
IT'S GET SOME GOOD IDEAS AND IN THE MEANTIME I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY FROM THE BOARD, UM, IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO STRUCTURE JUNE AGENDA TO FOLLOW THIS UP.
UM, THERE'S ONE, ONE THING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE ADD THIS OR IT'S A SEPARATE CONVERSATION.
ANNEXATION IS ALWAYS PART OF THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES.
AND EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT CONTIGUOUS, HILTON HEAD PROBABLY HAS,
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I WOULD ASSUME SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES.UM, AND IT GOES BACK TO THE ZONE SHOPPING.
IF A DEVELOPER DOESN'T GET WHAT THEY WANT HERE, THEY'LL GO OVER THERE AND ANNEX, I KNOW IN THE PAST YEARS, HARDY BILL'S BEEN ASKED TO JUMP ONE 70 OVER TO THE BEAUFORD SIDE AND WE TURNED IT DOWN AND WE'VE RESISTED THAT.
AND UH, I FIRMLY BELIEVE IN THAT.
BUT PERHAPS PART OF THE CONVERSATION IS WHERE ARE THE POTENTIAL STICKING POINTS BETWEEN JASPER AND BEAUFORT? TARDE VILLE AND, AND BLUFFTON.
AND, UH, BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T GET WHAT THEY, THEY WANT THAT OF BLUFFTON, THEY COME TO HARDY VILLE.
AND SO HOW DO WE HIGHLIGHT THOSE HOTSPOTS? HOW DO WE RESPOND AS A GROUP? HOW DO WE SUGGEST THE COUNTIES AND THE, AND THE MUNICIPALITIES RESPOND TO EACH OTHER? SO, UH, DOES THAT, SHOULD THAT BE PART OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS WELL? IT AFFECTS TRAFFIC.
BECAUSE IF THEY CAN'T SCHOOLS, IF, IF THE COUNTY HAS, I'M GOING TO, UH, CUZ I'LL USE JASPER COUNTY CUZ I'M MORE FAMILIAR WITH IT HAS A A, AN AREA THAT'S YOUR RURAL PRESERVATION.
NOW A DEVELOPER COMES IN, THEY WANT TO PUT APARTMENTS AND, AND MAKE THAT RESIDENTIAL.
WELL, IF THE CITY TURNS IT DOWN, NOW THE COUNTY HAS A CHOICE TO EITHER CHANGE THE ZONING AND ALLOW IT EVEN THOUGH THE, THE CITY TURNED IT DOWN.
AND HOW DO WE, HOW SHOULD WE RESPOND TO THAT? SHOULD, SHOULD THERE BE A LOCAL STATEMENT? HOW SHOULD WE HAVE SOME AGREEMENT AS A GROUP? MM-HMM.
WHEN THESE THINGS COME OUT BEFORE US, MR. MAYOR, I OFFER THAT, UH, THE ANNEXATION WARS OF THE LATE NINETIES, EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.
UH, THIS WAS A VERY SIMILAR ISSUE TO WHAT NORTHERN BEAVER COUNTY WENT THROUGH.
UH, AND THANKS TO LEADERSHIP AT THE TIME.
AND I THINK ALICE HOWARD WAS AROUND, AROUND THE TABLE WHEN THE MARINE CORPS SIDE, UH, THERE WAS A TIMEOUT CALLED, THERE WAS A COMMITTEE FORM CALLED THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN TASK FORCE.
UH, AND OUT OF THAT CAME THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN, WHICH IN OUR REGION SETTLED MANY OF THESE ISSUES IN TERMS OF CLEARLY DEFINED GROWTH BOUNDARIES, UH, THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF EACH OF THE JURISDICTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO ANNEXATIONS, HOW WE MIGHT ALIGN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS.
SO I I SAY ALL THAT TO, UH, ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN.
IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE.
UH, IT'S A PRETTY SHORT DOCUMENT, UH, BUT IN MY OPINION, 2007, 2008 WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, AND IT'S A, IT'S AN EVERGREEN DOCUMENT THAT I THINK GIVES GOOD GUIDANCE THAT HAS MADE SOME SENSE OF HOW WE COLLABORATE BETWEEN THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL AND, AND BEAUFORT COUNTY VAN.
I WOULD ADD THAT WE'VE ABSOLUTELY RESPECTED THAT DOCUMENT IN TERMS OF, UH, NO ANNEXATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE GROWTH BOUNDARY.
AND THE ONE TIME WE DID HAVE AN ISSUE RELATIVE TO THE GROWTH BOUNDARY, WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY OF BEAUFORT.
WE BASICALLY EXCHANGED A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES THAT, UH, MADE MORE SENSE ALONG THAT, UH, GROWTH BOUNDARY.
SO I THINK IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC DOCUMENT AND UH, IT MADE OUR LIFE A LOT EASIER FOR SURE.
AND ON OUR SIDE WHERE YOU HAVE PORT ROYAL ROYAL AND BEAUFORT, WE HAVE LEFTON ERT COUNTY, JASPER COUNTY VILLE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO OUR GROWTH BOUNDARIES.
DON'T EVEN TOUCH ANYWHERE NEAR THE BRIDGE.
AND WE WILL NEVER THINK ABOUT WINDMILL HARBOR IN THAT AREA.
CAUSE Y'ALL, Y'ALL CAN HAVE THAT PLEASE,
AND THEY DON'T WANNA COME IN ANYWAY.
I'M TOTALLY SO NOT, I DON'T MEAN JENKINS ISLAND, BUT WE KNOW THAT.
BUT, UM, I'D LOVE TO READ, BUT THAT'S THAT COMMITTEE.
CAUSE MAYBE THAT'S WHY RECREATE THE WILL.
WELL, WE'LL, UM, MAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE CIP MM-HMM.
AND, UM, THEN FOR JUNE, THAT SUBCOMMITTEE CAN COME BACK WITH THEIR AF AFTER HAVING MET ONCE THEY CAN COME BACK WITH THEIR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, WHAT THEY WANT, AND PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD IN JUNE.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, PERHAPS EACH JURISDICTION CAN SHOW WHAT THEIR GROWTH BOUNDARIES ARE.
DON'T HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, IF LIKE STEVEN SAID OR OR ALLEN, LET'S SHARE THEM IN ADVANCE.
BUT IT, WOULD IT HAVE SOME BENEFIT JUST TO SHOW WHAT EVERYBODY IS, UH, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
HARDY VILLES, THIS IS THEIR GROWTH BOUNDARIES AND EVERYBODY SEE WHAT IT IS.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE JUNE'S AGENDA.
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YOU SAID C IPS, YOU DIDN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT BRINGING OUR CS BACK.THERE'S THREE JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE NOT PRESENTED.
BEAUFORD, PORT ROYAL AND YAMA EMBASSY.
SO THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE THE, THE PRIMARY, UH, AGENDA FOR MAY.
SO THEN WE, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE, UH, PRESENTED THEIR CIS.
UM, AND THEN, SO THIS IS FOR JUNE.
WE'LL FIRM UP THIS, UH, NEW SUBCOMMITTEE.
I THINK IT'S REALLY EXCITING AND I LOOK FORWARD AND THANK YOU FOR, UM, VOLUNTEERING.
SO, UM, WHAT WE NORMALLY DON'T DO, SINCE WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND STAND UP.
I'M WITH A NEW GROUP STARTING, UH, THE LOW COUNTRY, UH, BIKE WALK ADVOCATES.
WE'RE HERE TO TRY AND PROMOTE SAFE PATHWAYS AND SAFE ROUTES FOR BICYCLES AS WELL AS UHS IN COUNTRY.
AND TO THE MAYOR
AND LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU, HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND INCLUDE THAT, UH, PLAN FOR TRANSPORTATION.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? JOCELYN? I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION STANDS IN BEHIND.
I'M TAKING A BUSLOAD OF PEOPLE TO COLUMBIA.
WE'RE MEETING WITH OUR STATE DELEGATION.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
ANYONE ELSE? OH, UM, I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND, UH, SO LOCO FOR TAKING UP THIS ISSUE OF, UH, LAND USE AND GROWTH BOUNDARIES.
UM, AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PLANNERS, WE ALWAYS TRY TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THAT TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE ARE VERY CLOSELY LINKED.
AND SO HAVING A SHARED VISION FOR, UH, FUTURE LAND USE, ESPECIALLY IN THESE AREAS, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE 70 CORRIDOR OR AREAS WHERE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY MEET, I THINK IS A GREAT FIRST STEP.
AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT SHARED VISION, THEN HAVING THAT SHARED APPROACH TO, TO, UH, TRANSPORTATION, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY FOLLOW SUIT.
SO I'M, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, AS A STAFF, YOU KNOW, PERSON.
UM, AND I ALSO AGREE THAT THE NORTH REGIONAL PLAN IS A REALLY GOOD MODEL FOR, UH, COOPERATIVE PLANNING, YOU KNOW, ACROSS JURISDICTIONS.
WANT TO SAY THOSE TWO THINGS AND LOOK FORWARD TO, TO WORKING WITH THIS COMMITTEE.
SOUNDS LIKE A VOLUNTEER IN THE MAKING TO ME AND FROM THE BOARD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR MOTION? YES, SIR.
TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE FOR US TO DO THINGS WHEN THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED.
MAY I SUGGEST THAT PRESENTATIONS LIKE WE HAD TODAY BE INCLUDED WITH WHAT GOES OUT WITH THE PACKET BEFOREHAND? BECAUSE THEN WE CAN REVIEW IT AND COME UP WITH SOME QUESTIONS RATHER THAN SEE IT THE FIRST TIME AND SAY, OH, UH, COULDN'T WRITE THAT DOWN FAST ENOUGH.
I'M GONNA GET IT, AND THEN I'LL BRING UP A QUESTION AFTER THE FACT.
SO AS, AS I SIT WITH EACH, UM, PRESENTER, I'LL ASK THEM TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, THEN I'LL MAKE SURE IT GETS FORWARDED TO CURRY AND ROBIN, UH, TO, TO INCLUDE IT AS THEY SEND OUT THE AGENDA.
UM, ONE LAST SORT OF SUGGESTION IS I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THERE'S A, A CONVERSATION GOING ABOUT A REFERENDUM OR A ACCOMMODATION OF REFERENDUMS. I UNDERSTAND STAFFS HAVE BEEN BRIEFED, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, ELECTED OFFICIALS, UM, HAVE NOT BEEN BRIEFED
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OR ARE PART OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S GOING FORWARD.AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS GROUP HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, SINCE WE HAVE STAFF AND ELECTEDS AT THE TABLE, UM, TO, TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT A REFERENDUM WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT WE WOULD SUPPORT, WHAT WE WOULD SUPPORT AS A REGION.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UM, WE MAY BE PREMATURE IN THAT.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BOARD, BUT UNTIL ANY REFERENDUMS BECOME FIRMER, THEN PERHAPS WE SHOULD DELAY THAT CONVERSATION TOO.
WE, CUZ IT HAS TO COME FROM THE COUNTIES MM-HMM.
AND SO WHEN THE COUNTY'S READY, THEN PERHAPS WE CAN ADD THAT AS A SUBJECT AND, AND WEIGH IN AT THAT TIME.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY? YEAH.
AND AND TO YOUR POINT, UH, MAYOR, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FORMULATING THAT RIGHT NOW SO THAT WE CAN GO LOGICALLY TO ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AND SAY, WOULD YOU SUPPORT THIS AND LIST WHAT WE PERCEIVE THE PATH FORWARD PLEASE.
AND, AND MAY MURRAY, I WOULD JUST, UM, AND I KNOW WE'RE GETTING CLOSE ON TIME, UM, WHEN, UH, THE MANAGERS RECEIVED OUR UPDATE, IT WAS THE SAME ONE THAT JARED PRESENTED TO COUNTY COUNCIL AT THEIR RETREAT.
WHEN I SENT THE INFORMATION OUT TO COUNCIL, I'LL JUST SEND 'EM A LINK TO, IT WAS LIKE THEIR AFTERNOON OF THEIR FIRST DAY OR SOMETHING.
AND THERE'S ABOUT AN HOUR PRESENTATION THAT JARED MAKES.
IT MAY, IT MAY BE GOOD JUST TO, TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT.
AND IT WAS REALLY MORE OF JUST, HEY, HERE'S WHAT THEY'RE THINKING BECAUSE OUR, OUR CONVERSATION WE HAD AMONGST MANAGERS WERE THE COUNTY NEEDS TO DECIDE EXACTLY WHAT REFERENDUMS THEY'RE GONNA GO FOR AND THEN COME BACK AND PRESENT THAT TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR RIGHT, FOR SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD.
BECAUSE THE CONVERSATION WE HAD, THEY HAVEN'T MADE THAT DECISION.
IT WAS JUST, HERE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND HERE'S WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE DONE.
AND I THINK, UM, I I GUESS THE, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY I'VE SEEN IS THE MORE INCLUSIVE WE ARE IN INCLUDING THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
LIKE, I REALLY THOUGHT THE TASK FORCE THAT WE STOOD UP FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECT WITH EACH OF US HAVING AN APPOINTEE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD CITIZEN LEADERSHIP, UH, BROUGHT FORWARD.
I THOUGHT A REALLY GOOD SORT OF LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, 2, 3, 4 DECADE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
UM, AND SO JUST ENCOURAGING THAT WE, YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE DIALOGUE WITH ALL THE PARTIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE THREE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
NUMBER ONE, COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO PASS A RESOLUTION THAT SAYS WE WANT A REFERENDUM.
NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THAT REFERENDUM SHALL LOOK LIKE.
AND NUMBER THREE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH.
ONCE WE DO THAT, THEN WE CAN GO TO EVERY MUNICIPALITY AND SAY, THIS IS THE PROCESS WE WANT TO GO THROUGH.
AND EVERY TIME JARED HAS PRESENTED, WE HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING NEW TO TWEAK THAT PRESENTATION TO MAKE IT MORE INCLUSIVE OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WHAT WE SHOULD DO, AND HOW WE CAN DO IT.
SO, UM, WE, I'M NOT TELLING ANY SECRETS.
WE HAVE A DRAFT OF THE RESOLUTION.
WE PICKED IT APART YESTERDAY AND SAID, I THINK WE SHOULD USE THIS LANGUAGE GOING FORWARD.
AND SO YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE COUNCIL TAKE THAT UP AT ITS MAY COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE IT THEN MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNTY COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD.
THEN WE HAVE THE PROCESS BECAUSE NOVEMBER OF 2024 ISN'T THAT FAR AWAY AND WE HAVE TO GET ADVOCATES TO BEGIN TELLING EVERYONE WHY THEY SHOULD DO A, B, C, WHATEVER.
SO, WE'LL, UH, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THIS.
I'LL MAKE A NOTE TO PUT THIS ON THE, UH, TO GET AN UPDATE TO THIS SITUATION AT THE JUNE MEETING.
WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
AND ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTED.
WE ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE SAY, AYE.