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THIS MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, COMMITTEE TO ORDER.
TODAY IS MONDAY, APRIL 17TH, AND I HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYED, UM, HERITAGE WEEK AND OUR TOURNAMENT.
WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR ALL THOSE FOLKS WHO COME AND SPEND THEIR TIME WITH US AND BLESSED TO BE PART OF IT.
SO, UM, CAYA, ARE WE, UM, IN FOIA COMPLIANCE? MA'AM? WE ARE WONDERFUL.
AND WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE? ABSOLUTELY.
ALSO
AND, UM, PRIOR TO BEGINNING OUR MEETING, UM, IF WE CAN TAKE A MOMENT PLEASE AND SAY THE PLEDGE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AND WE HAVE ONE SET OF MINUTES TO APPROVE FROM MARCH 20TH, 23.
IS THERE A MOTION REMOVED? AND A SECOND.
ZENDAYA, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? CERTAINLY.
DO WE HAVE ANY APPEARANCE BY CITIZENS TODAY? NO, MA'AM.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY APPEARANCE BY CITIZENS, NOR DID ANYONE SUBMIT ANY COMMENTS FOR YOU ALL TODAY.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA TAKE THIS TIME, BEN AND, UM, MAKE A, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT OF SORTS.
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT AS WE ENTER MAY, UM, THE SEA TURTLE NESTING SEASON BEGINS MAY 1ST AND WILL RUN THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST.
WANNA REMEMBER, DO NOT DISTURB THE NESTS OR THE HATCHLINGS UNTIL USE PLASTIC SHOVELS ONLY AND THEY HAVE TO BE UNDER 30 INCHES.
UM, YOU CAN WATCH NESTING FEMALES FROM BEHIND AND AT A DISTANCE, BUT PLEASE DO NOT DISTURB THEIR NESTS WHEN YOU LEAVE.
REMOVE ALL YOUR TRASH AND PERSONAL PROPERTY AND FILL IN ALL HOLES AND FLAT AND SANDCASTLES.
OUR SEED TURTLES, UH, HATCHLINGS MAKE THEIR WAY TO THE WATER SAFELY.
UM, BEACHFRONT LIGHTS OUT FROM 10:00 PM TO 6:00 AM AND PLEASE REMEMBER TO USE ONLY RED LIGHTS AT NIGHT ON THE BEACH, AND THAT WILL HELP US TO PRESERVE IN OUR SEA TURTLE NESTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO BE SAFELY FOUND THEIR WAY OUT TO THE WATER.
ALSO, THERE ARE FREE EVENTS AND THERE ARE NO REGISTRATIONS REQUIRED.
TURTLE TALKS, UM, WITH MARINE BIOLOGIST AMBER KUN EVERY MONDAY IN JUNE, JULY, AND AUGUST FROM EIGHT TO 9:00 PM IN THE LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION PART.
WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL TAKE THE TIME TO GO OUT AND LISTEN TO SOME OF THOSE TALKS.
I THINK YOU'LL FIND THEM INTERESTING AND CERTAINLY, UM, VERY FULFILLING TO LEARN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT OUR SEA TURTLES ARE, UM, TO OUR ENVIRONMENT, TO THE WORLD, AND CERTAINLY HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
SO, HAVING SAID THAT, UM, WE HAVE SOME UNFINISHED BUSINESS AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE, UM, MR. DEVOR TO JOIN US, OR IT'S OUR GENERAL COUNSEL TO START THE DISCUSSION OF THE BEACH PARKING MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
AND THEN, UM, JEFF BUCKALOO WILL OUR TOWN ENGINE EAR WILL GIVING US AN UPDATE SINCE LAST MONTH'S MEETING.
HOWEVER YOU GUYS WANNA WORK IT OUT.
UH, COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN BECKER, UM, CHAIRPERSON BECKER.
MR. ALFRED? UH, YEAH, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE FROM, UH, LAST MONTH'S MEETING AND WHERE WE ARE AND SCHEDULE HERE.
UM, YES, SINCE WE MET LAST, WE DO HAVE YOUR, YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND, AND ARE WORKING WITH THOSE AS WE UPDATE THE ORDINANCE AND LOOK AT EM POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
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WILL PLAN TO COME BACK, UM, PROBABLY IN JUNE WITH, WITH, UH, UPDATES ON THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES MANUAL WE'RE WORKING ON WITH PCI.AND MAC WILL HAVE THE, UH, ORDINANCE LANGUAGE.
WE WILL DISCUSS FEES, HOURS, ET CETERA.
UH, AND I THINK WE'LL BE READY, UM, FOR ACTION AT THAT TIME.
UH, THE PCI CONTRACT WAS SIGNED ON MARCH 27TH, SO COMPANY IS OFFICIALLY UNDER CONTRACT AND ON THE CLOCK.
UM, THEY TOOK OVER THE RESIDENTIAL BEACH PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM ON, UM, APRIL 3RD.
THEY SENT OUT LETTERS TO ALL OF THE, UH, PAST PERMIT HOLDERS TO INFORM THEM OF THE NEW PROCESS THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, SELLING PHYSICAL DECALS ANYMORE.
AND, UM, OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS, THEY HAVE SOLD AND REGISTERED 1,314 PERMITS AND HAVE, UM, SEVERAL 73 PENDING, AWAITING MORE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT.
UM, ALSO AS PART OF THAT, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH PCI TO, TO ENHANCE THE WEBSITE, UM, MAKING IT MORE, MORE CLEAR, EASY TO USE, UM, ET CETERA.
UH, THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE IS ON TRACK TO BE SCHEDULED IN MAY.
THOSE ARE THE LICENSE PLATE READING CAMERAS AND THE GATES, ET CETERA.
UH, WE DID A PURCHASE ORDER BEFORE THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED SO THEY COULD ORDER THE MATERIALS AND, AND NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANY LEAD TIME ISSUES.
UM, I KNOW THERE WERE SEVERAL MENTIONS OF, OF SUFFICIENT BIKE ROCKS, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES TO THE BEACH PARK.
AND SO WE HAVE, UM, FACILITIES MANAGEMENT, BEACH OPERATIONS LOOKING AT THOSE, AND WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS AN AD SO THAT WE HAVE PLENTY ENOUGH AT EVERY PARK.
UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATIONS PLAN, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WITH IN-HOUSE STAFF, AND THAT IS TO BE, UH, PRESENTED LATER.
UM, SO THE COMMUNICATIONS PLAN, POLICY AND PROCEDURES MANUAL AND THE TECHNOLOGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE ARE ALL GOING IN.
AND I WOULD EXPECT, UH, US TO REPORT I IN JUNE.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AS AN UPDATE ON OPERATIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BY YES.
UH, YES, THANK YOU MR. BUCKALOO.
UM, I'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS OVER THE WEEKEND FROM CONSTITUENTS REGARDING ENFORCEMENT, UH, ESPECIALLY AT ISLANDERS BEACH PARK.
UM, CAN YOU TELL US HOW THAT ENFORCEMENT WILL BE WORKING? UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A DECAL OR A PERMIT UNTIL MAY 31, BUT THE, UH, THE REAL QUESTION IS ABOUT, UM, HOW, UH, IS THAT PARKING ENFORCED IF SOMEONE COMES IN AND DOESN'T HAVE A DECAL, UM, OR IF THEY PARK THERE WHEN PERHAPS THE, UM, PARKING ATTENDANT ISN'T THERE? UH, WHAT HAPPENS TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE THE CAR FROM PARKING, UH, WITHOUT PERMISSION, WITHOUT, UH, A PERMIT? SO, UH, CAN YOU GO THROUGH, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, OUR CONTRACTOR NOW IS IN CHARGE OF THAT, UH, MANAGEMENT ENFORCEMENT.
SO, UH, TELL ME, UH, WHAT I CAN TELL OUR CONSTITUENTS.
AND I ALSO THINK, UH, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I LOOKED ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS. UM, AND I COULD NOT FIND THAT.
UM, I, I, I, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE THE NEW DRAFT, UH, ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE CLEAR INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT HOW ENFORCEMENT IS HANDLED, ESPECIALLY AT ISLAND BEACH PARK.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT TO THROW IT TO AT ONCE.
BUT, UM, I THINK, UH, OUR FOLKS NEED TO KNOW, RIGHT? OUR CONTRACT WITH PCI, THEY HAVE A FULL-TIME ATTENDANT WHEN THAT PARK IS OPEN.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE, UM, AT THAT PARK ACTING AS THE, THE PARKING ATTENDANT.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE AMBASSADORS, UM, MATT TRU LAUDER, PCI, HE'S HERE TODAY, AND HE'S TOLD ME HOW RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING AROUND.
THEY HAVE THE LICENSE PLATES FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE REGISTERED THROUGH THE NEW PROGRAM.
THEN THEY HAVE THE, THE STICKERS, THE DECALS THAT ARE GOOD THROUGH THE 22.
SO THEY ARE ON THE CASE ASKING ANYONE WHO, YOU KNOW, GOES INTO THE, UH, LOT LOOKING TO PARK AT THE METERS.
AND, AND IF THEY TRY TO PARK IN A, IN A RESIDENCE SPACE, UM, THEY DON'T ALLOW THAT.
UM, WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY, ANY TOWING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THUS FAR AT ISLANDERS, BUT, BUT IT'S BEING ENFORCED THROUGH THE, THE PERSONNEL OF, UH, PCI.
AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE REFUSES TO MOVE THEIR CAR
BEACH BEACH PARKING PERMIT PAGE ETTE PETER PIPER PICKED A PECK OF PICKLE PEPPERS.
YEAH, WE CAN SPELL THAT OUT AND, AND ADD THAT TO THE WEBSITE.
I KNOW THAT SOME OF THOSE POLICIES IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT IN THE REPERCUSSIONS ARE YET TO BE FINALIZED, UM, THROUGH US.
SO THEY WOULD IMAGINE THAT AS IN THE PAST WHEN WE HAD
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STAFF MO MONITORING THE ENTRANCEWAY, THAT THOSE SAME PROCEDURES WILL CONTINUE UNTIL WHATEVER POLICY WE COME UP WITH IS IMPLEMENTED.THAT, SO SOMEONE IS AT THE GATE AND THEN SOMEONE IS ROAMING AND TRYING TO ADDRESS.
AND AS I RECALL, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY REPORTS OF ANYONE BEING DISAGREEABLE OR ANY WITH HAVING TO BE ANY YEAH, SHE, MAJOR PROBLEMS. MATT.
CAN, CAN YOU COME UP? IT, IT WILL REALLY HELP OUR WONDERFUL ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
UH, SATURDAY AFTERNOON, THE LOT.
ONE FULL AROUND NOON AT ISLANDERS.
AND, UM, SHE DID HAVE OUR ATTENDANT THERE.
SHE DID HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT TRIED TO PARK IN THE PINE STRAW.
SHE WENT OVER, STOPPED THEM, TOLD THEM THEY CAN'T PARK THERE.
AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NO OTHER SPACES.
AND SHE SAID, OKAY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE UNTIL SOME SPACES DO OPEN UP.
SO, UM, YEAH, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE OUTRIGHT REFUSING, INFORMING THEM OF SO THEY WERE COOPERATIVE AND LEFT YEP.
YEAH, I MEAN, WERE, THEY WEREN'T HAPPY TO HAVE TO LEAVE AND COME BACK, BUT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY CAN'T PARK THERE OR, OR THEY RISK BEING TICKETED OR TOWED.
DOES THAT HELP? THANK YOU, ALEX.
ANY QUESTION? OH, UM, I UNDERSTAND QUESTION.
UM, SO, UH, LAST UH, TIME THAT WE MET WITH PCI, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY WAS GOING TO BE IN PLACED, UM, SO THAT WE'D HAVE, UH, SUFFICIENT TIME TO GATHER SOME DATA AND HAVE THAT DATA BEFORE US AS WE ARE TRYING TO MASSAGE THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE OR POLICY.
IS THAT STILL THE PLAN? CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE GREEN ON HERE AND I SEE THAT THE TECHNOLOGY'S GONNA BE IN THERE JUNE 1ST.
UM, AND WE ARE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE BY AUGUST 1ST.
UM, I'M JUST THINKING IF ALL GOES WELL WITH TECHNOLOGY IMPLEMENTATION, THAT GIVES US MAYBE A 60 DAY WINDOW.
UM, IT SEEMS A LITTLE TIGHT CUZ I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ENOUGH INFORMATION SO THAT WE ARE GIVING GOOD DIRECTION AND SETTING GOOD POLICY AROUND THIS WHOLE BEACH PARKING ADVENTURE.
THE, THE TECHNOLOGIES TO BE IMPLEMENTED, THE CAMERAS IF THEY NEED MAY, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRACKING NOW FROM MATERIALS DELIVERY AND, AND HAVING THE ELECTRICIANS READY TO INSTALL, ET CETERA.
BUT THEY WILL TRACK, UM, WITH NOTES AND, AND, AND CAPACITY.
I MEAN, WE, WE WILL HAVE FOR YOU TRENDS AND WHAT DATA BEFORE THAT AND ONCE THE TECHNOLOGY, AND IT'LL BE MORE DEFINITIVE DATA, BUT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, WEEKDAY IN, IN APRIL, WEEKENDS, ET CETERA LEADING UP.
AND TO THE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GIVE YOU CAPACITY.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO BREAK DOWN, YOU KNOW, OCCUPANCY IS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU WANT.
LIKE HOURLY, DAILY, MONTHLY, WHATEVER.
LIKE WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION HARDER IN WHICHEVER WAY YOU'D LIKE ONCE YOU HAVE IT IMPLEMENTED.
UM, SOME OF THE CAMERAS HAVE ARRIVED.
NOW IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SCHEDULING TIME WITH LOCAL CONTRACTORS.
CAUSE WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, BORE INTO THE CONCRETE OR THE BLACKTOP IN CERTAIN AREAS AND GET 'EM INSTALLED CORRECTLY.
SO WE'RE WORKING BROKEN, BROKEN AT THE CONTRACTORS JUST TO SET UP A SCHEDULE.
OUR, THE PERSON WHO WILL BE INSTALLING THEM, HE'S BEEN DOWN HERE ONCE ALREADY TOOK ALL THE MEASUREMENTS, KNOWS EXACTLY WHERE EVERYTHING NEEDS TO GO BASED ON THE PLATES OR ON THE LA BACK OF THE CARS INSTEAD OF THE FRONT AND BACK AND MOST LOCATIONS.
SO HE'S TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
HE HAS SKETCHED OUT EVERYTHING.
SO IT'S JUST NOW A MATTER OF GETTING THE SCHEDULING WITH THE CONTRACTORS DOWN.
STEVE? UH, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
UH, LAST TIME WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT THE NEARBY MERCHANTS, UH, AND THEIR PARKING SPACES.
UH, I WAS LEFT WITH THE IMPRESSION AT THAT TIME THAT ONE OF THE, UH, BETTER SOLUTIONS AS FAR AS THE MERCHANTS ARE CONCERNED IS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM ALONG WITH YOU ON, UH, ON PUBLIC SITES.
UM, I WONDERED IF THERE'S BEEN, UH, COMMUNICATION WITH THE, UH, BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY, UH, PAID PARKING.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN ADVISED AS TO HOW BEST THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH WHAT THE CHANGES ARE GOING TO, HOW THE CHANGES ARE GONNA IMPACT THEM.
UM, I HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH, WITH NEY PLAZA IN PARTICULAR, OR ANY OF THE ADJACENT BUSINESSES WE'RE GOING TO.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT OPTIONS, UH, SHUTTLE SERVICES.
IF THEY COULD HAVE AN EMPLOYEE PARKING AND SHUTTLE SERVICE, WE, YOU KNOW, SAID, IS THERE GONNA BE, UH, POSSIBILITY TO HAVE EMPLOYEES PARK AT A CERTAIN RATE OVER HERE AT THE PUBLIC BEACH SPOT? UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS WE ARE, WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER COORDINATES.
BUT I HAVE NOT TALKED TO, UH, NEY WHO, I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ALL THE MERCHANTS HAVE FREE PARKING NOW AND ARE ADJACENT TO WHERE THE PUBLIC PARKING WILL BE ON A PAID BASIS, ARE CONCERNED, AS YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE
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THAT THEY, THOSE BEACH GOERS WILL MOVE TO THE FREE PARKING SPACES IN THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.AND AS I SAY, I, I WAS GIVEN THE IMPRESSION THAT IF THE MERCHANTS PARTICIPATE COULD PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.
SO THEIR EMPLOYEES CAN BE DESIGNATED FOR FREE SPACES, THEIR PARKING GUESTS, UH, COULD BE SIMILARLY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FREE SPACES.
UH, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY, THERE SHOULD BE SOME COMMUNICATION WITH ALL THOSE MERCHANTS.
I SEE SEAN AS, YEAH, MIND IF I JUMP IN, SEAN PULLING ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER, UM, YOU KNOW, SO ALL THE PRIVATE, UM, ENTERPRISE DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, REQUIRED TO HAVE PARKING TO SERVE THEIR, THEIR BUSINESS.
UM, AND WHILE THE PUBLIC PARKING HAS BEEN AVAILABLE RIGHT AT NO AT NO CHARGE, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY THE PRIVATE PARKING SHOULD BE ACCOMMODATED ON, ON THE PRIVATE SITES.
UH, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UM, THE IMPACT OF A FEE-BASED PARKING SCHEDULE IF IT GOES INTO EFFECT FOR THE PUBLIC SPACES.
THERE HAVE BEEN CON COMMUNICATIONS WITH SEVERAL OF THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS THERE.
UM, AGAIN, A LOT OF THE, UM, DISCUSSIONS BEEN ABOUT WHERE DO THE EMPLOYEES PARK, RIGHT? WHICH ALLOW PARKING FOR, FOR, UM, PATRONS OF THOSE BUSINESSES.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE DEEPER DISCUSSIONS AS WE MOVE ALONG.
UM, BUT BETWEEN THE, THE PRIVATE PARKING AND THE PUBLIC PARKING, LOOKING AT IT FROM A DISTRICT STANDPOINT, UM, THERE CAN BE SOME POLICY DECISIONS THAT COUNCIL WILL BE ASKED TO MAKE GOING FORWARD.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM.
SEAN, CAN I DUCKTAIL ON THAT BEFORE YOU LEAVE SEAN? JUST, UM, I, I WOULD, I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND, JUST TO HELP WITH THE MATH, UH, C PONDS HAS A PROGRAM THAT SHUTTLES THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THEY'VE BEEN UP AND RUNNING FOR GOING ON TWO YEARS NOW.
AND THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES THAT ARE NOW AVAILABLE BECAUSE OF THAT SHUTTLE PROGRAM IS ASTRONOMICAL.
UM, AND I AGREE THAT THE CODE SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE X AMOUNT OF SPACES FOR YOUR, YOUR, YOUR BUILDINGS.
UM, BUT WE ALL KNOW IN JUNE AND JULY WE ARE OVER CAPACITY IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
UM, SO JUST TO HELP WITH THE MATH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, OUR CONVERSATION WITH, WITH C PINES AS WELL WOULD, WOULD, WOULD MAKE SENSE.
AND UNDER THE PARKING DEMAND DOWN THERE, UH, EXCEEDS THE SUPPLY, RIGHT? AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, UM, OUTSIDE OF JUST THAT, THAT ARE, THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
OVER THE COURSE OF, UM, TALKING ABOUT THIS BEACH MANA, UH, PARKING MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, A NUMBER OF THESE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN BEING, HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION AND STAKEHOLDER EVENTS HAVE BEEN HELD.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE COME TO ANY CERTAIN CONCLUSIONS.
I KNOW THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD ADOPTING THIS, THERE IS TIME BETWEEN, AS YOU SEE FROM THE CALENDAR OF, UM, SCHEDULE UP ON THE BOARD THERE, THAT, UM, WHILE IT WILL BE SET IN PLACE, WE DON'T FULLY START IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM UNTIL MARCH OF 2024.
AND EVEN A SOFT OPENING IN JANUARY 1ST, 2024, HELP US HOPEFULLY IRON OUT ALL OF THOSE WRINKLES GOING FORWARD.
UM, AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS SHOULD CONTINUE.
AND I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN, UM, BEHIND THE SCENES SO THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT.
UM, BUT WE ALL, WE DO HAVE FEWER PARKING SPACES THAN NEEDED IN ALMOST EVERY AREA.
AND WE ARE A SMALL ISLAND, SO MAYBE WE'RE JUST LIMITED ON SPACE CAPACITY, UM, PERIOD.
AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
UM, I DO WANNA ASK A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER, IF WE HAVE MORE QUESTION.
MY SECOND QUESTION IS HOW ARE YOU PROGRESSING AND DEALING WITH THE GLITCHES THAT AROSE ON INITIAL ROLLOUT? WE'VE, UM, WE'VE TALKED TO THE, OUR SOFTWARE DEVELOPER WHO CREATED THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE USING, THEY'VE IRONED OUT, UM, THE MAJOR ISSUE AS IT WAS SAYING, UM, MONTHLY FEE, UM, THAT HAS BEEN RECTIFIED NOW IT'S HIS ANNUAL, SO EVERYONE'S, SO THAT'S NO LONGER AN ISSUE.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE LOT OF, UM, ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD TO, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY DEAL WITH LIKE, A LOT OF, SOME, SOME QUESTIONS ARE BEING ARISE, THEY CALL THE OFFICE, WE ANSWER 'EM.
AND, UM, AND THEY ALL SEEM HAPPY, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR RESOLUTION.
AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME INTO THE OFFICE AS WELL, EVERYONE HAS LEFT HAPPY IN UNDERSTANDING THE PROGRAM.
SO, UM, I THINK WE'VE DONE, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, RECTIFY THE GLITCHES AND HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING SHOULD BE SMOOTHER.
AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE, YOU KNOW, WE DO GET SOME QUESTIONS AND I JUST DIRECT THE PEOPLE THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND, UM, SEEMS TO WORK OUT JUST FINE.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE ASSISTANCE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PROVIDING.
I KNOW BETWEEN STAFF AND YOUR OFFICE, UM, THOSE FOLKS WHO I'VE DIRECTED TO GET MORE ASSISTANCE HAVE BEEN QUITE PLEASED WITH THE COURTEOUS, UM, INFORMATION THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED AND THE FINAL RESOLUTION.
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MENTIONED, I THINK IT WAS 73, I WROTE IT DOWN.UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE, ARE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE PENDING, WHAT IS THE PRIMARY ISSUE WITH THOSE DOCUMENT? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S THREE PRIMARY REASONS.
ONE, THEIR CREDIT CARD INFORMATION ISN'T CORRECT.
THEY MAYBE MISSED A DIGIT OR THEY PUT IN THE WRONG MAILING ADDRESS.
UM, THE SECOND MOST COMMON ONE IS DOCUMENTATION.
THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING THE CORRECT, YOU KNOW, TAX BILL OR THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT OR THEIR MORTGAGE CLOSING.
THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING THE RIGHT DOCUMENTATION.
SOMETIMES IT'S, IT'S A MATTER OF THE NAME IS DIFFERENT ON THE TAX BILL AND THE APPLICATION.
SO WE HAVE TO RE RESOLVE THAT.
AND THEN THE THIRD IS, THERE'S AN OPTION WHERE THEY CAN SELECT ONE VEHICLE OR TWO VEHICLES.
SOME PEOPLE ARE SELECTING ONE, WE'RE PUTTING IN TWO.
SO I HAVE TO CONTACT THEM TO MAKE SURE IT'S OKAY TO PUT THE ADDITIONAL $15 CHARGE THROUGH.
AND SO WE HAVE 13 1,313 PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED.
AND LAST YEAR, OR IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS.
OVERALL RESIDENTIAL PERMITS, WHILE I REALIZE THERE'S A DIFFERENT DEFINITION NOW FOR RESIDENT WAS IN FIVE, 6,000 THOUSAND APPLICANTS.
THAT GOES, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, HOW MANY MORE DO YOU THINK WE ANTICIPATE COMING THROUGH FOR PERMANENT? IT'S, IT STARTED OUT, UH, LAST WEEK.
WE WERE GETTING AROUND BETWEEN 150 TO 200 A DAY.
LAST WEEK IT WAS DOWN TO A HUNDRED A DAY.
SO IT'S PROBABLY, I'M ASSUMING IT'S PROBABLY GONNA REMAIN ABOUT THAT PACE.
UM, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CALLED AND ASKED WHEN THEIR CURRENT PASSES EXPIRED, WE LET 'EM KNOW THAT IT'S MAY 31ST.
SO I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST WAITING FOR THE INITIAL RUSH TO GET OVER AND, UM, SO WE'LL CONTINUE THROUGH FOR THE NEXT SEVEN WEEKS.
AND DO WE HAVE AN ANTICIPATED NUMBER NOW WITH THE NEW DEFINITION OF RESIDENT? UM, HOW MANY PERMITS THERE MIGHT BE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK ME.
YOU CAN, UNTIL TODAY, NOW I'LL GET, YEAH, I THINK NEXT YEAR WHEN THE, YOU KNOW, PAID AT POLY AND, AND OTHER AREAS GO INTO EFFECT, MORE PEOPLE, MORE RESIDENTS OF COURSE WILL APPLY.
UH, SO LIKE THOSE NUMBERS TO, UH, GO UP AND AMBASSADOR PROGRAMS. SO WE USED TO HAVE STAFF AT ISLANDERS NOW WE HAVE, YEAH, WE HAVE STAFF OR EMPLOYEES THROUGH YOUR COMPANY, PCI, AND WE HAVE HILTON HEAD ISLAND AMBASSADOR PROGRAM FOLKS.
THEY'RE STATIONED AS WELL, RIGHT? THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE, UM, THE AMBASSADORS AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE LOT, THEY COME ON, THEY BECOME OUR EMPLOYEES NOW.
UM, SO YEAH, SO IT'S STILL THE SAME, SAME STAFF.
AND, UM, SO PEOPLE WILL HAVE THAT FAMILIARITY.
THERE'LL BE THE SAME CONTINUITY.
AND ACTUALLY A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE, UM, WITH, WITH THE INFLUX WE HAD, I'VE HAD PEOPLE, ONE OF THEM COME IN AND HELP ME OUT DURING OUR OFFICE HOURS.
AND, UM, EVERY TIME SOMEONE COMES IN, IT'S LIKE THEY RECOGNIZE 'EM RIGHT AWAY.
AND SO IT'S, YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY ARE, THEY ARE VERY MUCH LOVED THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE.
I'M GLAD THEY'RE STILL ON BOARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
AND YEAH, I'LL ASK HIM M TO UH, COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE NOW.
MORNING, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
UM, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE BLEED OVER PARKING INTO OTHER BUSINESS, THOSE AREAS.
SO STATE LAW IS SECTION 23 DASH ONE.
DASH 15 GIVES LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE TRAFFIC LAWS ON PARKING LOTS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY CAN BE PRIVATELY OWNED PARKING LOTS THAT ARE GENERALLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SO THERE IS A, A POSTING REQUIREMENT THAT THERE MUST BE APPROPRIATE SIGNAGE LOCATED WITHIN THAT PARKING LOT.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IN, IN A SCENARIO WHERE YOU HAVE BLEED OVER PARKING INTO PRIVATE PARKING LOT THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THEY'RE USING IT FOR BEACH PARKING, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN GET INVOLVED IN AND THEN ISSUE A CITATION FOR THOSE SORTS OF VIOLATIONS.
UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FURTHER INCORPORATE INTO THE ORDINANCE.
BUT, BUT THAT, UH, MEANS THAT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER NEEDS TO CONTACT LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THEY DON'T CALL THE TOWN AND SAY, CAN YOU ENFORCE THE STATE LAW? IS THAT CORRECT? THE, UH, THE, THE AGREEMENT WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ACTIVELY PATROL THOSE AREAS AS WELL.
SO DETERMINE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UH, THE TOWN, YES MA'AM.
SO IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER TO CONTACT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO ENFORCE THE PRIVATE PARKING, NOT TO CONTACT THE TOWN THAT YES, MA'AM.
IT, IT WOULD BE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RE UH, RESPONSIBILITY TO EITHER ACTIVELY PATROL OR TO RESPOND TO A CALL FOR SERVICE.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE NEED TO HAVE A, A BETTER SOLUTION THAN THAT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER.
SORRY, WE'RE ALL GONNA TAKE A STAB AT THIS TODAY.
ONE OF THE EMPLOYEE PARKING ISSUES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE ADJOINING BUSINESS OWNERS, AND WE HAVE BEEN IN DIRECT CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, COUPLE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES
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IN WHICH WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.UM, ONE IS WITHIN THE CLAYTON LOT ITSELF, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY INSTITUTE PAID PARKING, THERE IS THE ABILITY USING THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE CAN GIVE OUT CODES THAT ALLOW THEM TO PARK FOR FREE AND ESSENTIALLY MAINTAIN THAT SAME STATUS THAT THEY HAVE THERE.
NOW WE'RE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT THE, UH, REMOTE PARKING AND SHUTTLE FACILITIES, CUZ YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S A SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE.
AND ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH SUPPLY TO MEET THE DEMAND THAT'S THERE.
SO IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, IT'S A WIN-WIN IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UM, WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE BUSINESSES TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN IN TERMS OF REGULATING AND ENFORCING ANY KIND OF BLEED OVER.
THE ISSUE BECOMES, AND IT'S THE ISSUE THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE OF KNOWING THE INTENT OF THE PERSON THAT'S COMING INTO THAT PARKING LOT, AND ARE THEY GOING TO SHOP OR ARE THEY GOING TO GO TO THE BEACH? AND UNLESS YOU FOLLOW THEM FROM THE TIME THEY GET OUT OF THEIR CAR TO THE TIME THEY GO TO THEIR DESTINATION, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.
UM, SO THE ABILITY THERE IS FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE, WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, UM, AND ARE CERTAINLY OPEN TO AND TRYING TO INCORPORATE THEM INTO OUR SYSTEM.
UM, BUT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE OPEN DIALOGUE WITH THEM.
AND HOW DO WE ENFORCE THAT? BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFICULT ISSUE NOT KNOWING WHAT THEIR INTENT IS, BUT CERTAINLY SIGNAGE, UM, NOTIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC MESSAGING AND OUR ABILITY TO, UH, I THINK CONVEY INFORMATION TO FOLKS THAT IF OUR ONE OF OUR LOTS ARE FULL, THEN HOPEFULLY THE U S C B LOT IS OPEN.
SO THERE IS THE ABILITY TO PARK THERE, UH, APPROPRIATELY, OR IF NOT, WE CAN COMMUNICATE WHAT AVAILABILITY MIGHT BE IN OTHER PARKS.
SO ALL OF THAT HOPEFULLY COMES TOGETHER TO MITIGATE THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE EVER GONNA ELIMINATE IT COMPLETELY, BUT I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK ON IT WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS DIRECTLY.
OH, MY, MY BEST APPROACH IS TO GET AN ICE CREAM CONE ON THE WAY TO THE BEACH.
BUT HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, THIS ISN'T A NEW ISSUE.
THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD ALL ALONG.
IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED NOW, BUT WE HAVE A BEACH MONITORING PROGRAM AND PAYMENT SYSTEM, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THESE TYPES OF ISSUES IN THE PAST.
AND SO, UM, THERE ARE SOLUTIONS THAT HAVE WORKED AND THERE ARE PROBABLY, AS, UM, JOSH, YOU DESCRIBED A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENT THAT WILL, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE ONGOING.
UM, I WOULD IMAGINE ALSO POSSE TO YOUR POINT THAT YES, THE SHERIFF'S, AND MAYBE MATT, YOU CAN ADDRESS THIS, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WOULD BE UNDER THE STATE LAW, THE FIRST CALL MAYBE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY DISCUSSION IN TERMS AND OF IF AND HOW CODE ENFORCEMENT COULD BE HELPFUL IN THIS REGARD COULD BENEFIT, UM, THE RESIDENT'S EXPERIENCE AND TRY TO ALLEVIATE ANY PROBLEMS THAT MIGHT COME DOWN THE WAY.
MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, UM, LATER ON.
AND, AND I THINK THERE IS A DISTINCTION THERE, UM, WHICH I THINK CHAIR BECKER IS TALKING ABOUT, AND THAT IS WITHIN THE PRIVATE PARKING LOT, THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ENFORCE.
BUT WITH RESIDENTS ON THE STREETS IN NORTH, FOR INSTANCE, NORTH AND SOUTH FOREST BEACH, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEY BEACH AREA, UH, THAT KIND OF BLEED OVER PARKING ON TOP OF, UH, FOLKS' LAWNS AND, AND BLOCKING STREETS AND, AND GOING INTO OTHER AREAS, UM, WHERE THE TOWN HAS SOME CONTROL AND ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY, UM, ABOUT THAT KIND OF PARKING.
AND I THINK, UH, WE OUGHT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR IN, IN THIS ORDINANCE.
UM, AND UNTIL WE ADOPT IT, IF THERE'S SOME, UH, I, I THINK PARTICULARLY WITH FOREST BEACH OWNERS ASSOCIATION, COMMUNICATION IS HELPFUL.
AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION IN THE PAST AND COMPLAINTS
UM, SO, UM, UH, TO INCREASE THAT, UH, COMMUNICATION NOW BEFORE THE SUMMER SEASON, I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
AND TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF THOSE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS THROUGH THE ASSOCIATION OR SOME OTHER MEANS, UM, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT, UM, IT, IT, UM, IF IT'S A PRIVATE PARKING LOT, CONTACT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
IF NOT, THEN I THINK THE PROCEDURE IS TO CONTACT THE TOWN ENFORCEMENT OFFICER SAID A DISTINCTION THERE.
AND, AND IF THERE'S ANY PARKING IN THE TOWN'S RIGHT OF WAY ON, ON THE SHOULDER, WHICH MAY, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE APPEARANCE OF BEING ON SOMEBODY'S LAWN THAT'S IN THE TOWN'S RIGHT OF WAY, THE TOWN CAN ENFORCE THAT, UM, WITHOUT THE NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER TO, TO CALL.
THESE TYPES OF PARKING ISSUES ARE NOT, UM, NOT JUST ABOUT BEACH PARKING, WHERE NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM, BUT THEY'RE THE SAME ISSUES THAT NORTH FOREST, SOUTH FOREST BEACH, AND ALL THE BEACH COMMUNITIES, UM, WHO I REPRESENT AND HAVE WORKED WITH THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, UM, HAVE, UM, AS RELATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, RIGHT? WHERE THEY'RE NOT PARKING, WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PARKING.
AND, AND OUR FIRST CALL HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, BUT NOW WE HAVE ADDITIONAL, UM, ENFORCEMENT THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE AND MAYBE WE COULD SEE HOW THEY MIGHT, UM, BE BETTER COORDINATED NOW.
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RIGHT.UM, SO I HAVE THE SAME SLIDE PRESENTATION ESSENTIALLY AS, AS LAST MONTH, BUT I WILL POINT OUT THE AREAS THAT WE'VE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU ALL PROVIDED LAST MONTH.
UH, I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN BROWN YOU MENTIONED, UH, AS PART OF THE PURPOSE OF THIS BEACH MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE IS TO ALSO MINIMIZE THE EFFECT TO NEIGHBORING TO, TO THE NEIGHBORING ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE HAVE ADDED THAT IN THE PURPOSE AND INTENT STATEMENT AS THE, UM, THE LAST BIT THERE, UH, ALL WHILE MINIMIZING ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE NEIGHBORING ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS ENCOMPASSED IN THE PURPOSE AND INTENT STATEMENT.
UH, EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS SLIDE REMAINS UNCHANGED.
SAME THING WITH THIS AND WE'LL, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT, UH, THE DIFFERENT, UH, OPERATIONAL HOURS.
WE HAD NO FAIR COUNCILMAN BECKER OR COUNCILWOMAN BECKER.
I KNOW YOU BROUGHT UP ABOUT, UH, ST YOU KNOW, THE, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING A MAXIMUM TIME PERIOD MM-HMM.
UH, SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
UH, ALTERNATIVELY, I'VE, I'VE LOOKED INTO SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS, YOU COULD HAVE A PROGRESSIVE PRICING STRUCTURE, SO THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR INCREMENTAL INCREASES BASED ON THE LENGTH OF TIME.
SO MAYBE ONCE YOU HIT THE FOURTH HOUR, FOR EXAMPLE, IT, IT GOES UP BY ANOTHER DOLLAR OR $2 OR HOWEVER MANY, UM, NO, JUST FOR MATTER OF CLARIFI, UH, CORRECTION.
YEAH, I WAS RESPONDING TO A COMMENT.
YEAH, IT WAS, I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT THE MAXIMUM CHAIR BECKER WHO SAID NO, MAXIMUM.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
I STILL BELIEVE THAT NO MAXIMUM BECAUSE OF THE REASONS I SAID PREVIOUSLY.
UM, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA RUSH PEOPLE OFF AND IF THEY WANT TO WALK OVER AND HAVE LUNCH AND GET THAT ICE CREAM CONE AND DO SOME SHOPPING AND ENJOY OUR MUSIC, AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE THEM STAYING AROUND.
AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING A MAXIMUM DAILY RATE IS, IS SOMETHING THAT IS ALSO COMMON IN, IN A LOT OF THE JURISDICTIONS THAT WE'VE RESEARCHED.
SO THAT IS A, A POLICY CONSIDERATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO CAP THAT OR TO HAVE INCREMENTAL INCREASES BASED ON THE LENGTH OF TIME.
SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR, FOR GUIDANCE ON THAT FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE ON, ON THAT SAME PAGE, UM, THE LAST POINT, PARKING AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE PARKING FEES ISSUED, BLAH, BLAH, AND THEN, UM, AND TAKE OTHER APPROPRIATE MEASURES TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE VEHICLE IMMOBILIZATION.
AND, AND I JUST WANT TO RESTATE MY CONCERN ABOUT VEHICLE IMMOBILIZATION AS, AS A MEANS, BECAUSE AS LONG AS THAT CAR IS THERE, IT IS TAKING UP A SPACE THAT SOMEONE ELSE CAN USE.
AND AS WE JUST DISCUSSED, UM, WE ARE AT A, A PREMIUM ON SPACES OVER CAPACITY, MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY.
AND SO, UM, WELL, I UNDERSTAND IMMOBILIZING THE SIS WANT TO SEE THEM OUT IF THEY'RE INAPPROPRIATELY IN A SPOT.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY, AND, AND PCI MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT I, I THINK HAVING THAT, UH, PERHAPS AS, UH, TO THE DISCRETION OF THE, THE PARKING AUTHORITY IF, IF THE PARKING LOT'S VERY FULL AND IT'S TIME TO GET SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED ILLEGALLY OUT, UH, TO HAVE THEM PERHAPS TOWED.
UH, BUT IF, IF TOWING IS NOT IN ENTIRELY NECESSARY, THEN MAYBE I, MOBILIZATION WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE, UM, THAT, THAT'D BE MORE OF A DISCRETIONARY OPTION.
UM, I JUST WANNA TIE BACK INTO, UM, AN ORIGINAL, UM, COMMENT, UM, WITH P'S UH, DATA.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THE, UH, PRICING STRUCTURE QUESTION BEFORE US, AND YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE FROM US, BUT I THINK IT'S A, A TWO-WAY STREET HERE THAT DATA IS GOING TO HELP DRIVE THE DECISION THAT WE MAKE, BECAUSE OVER A 30 DAY PERIOD, IF WE SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE STAYING THERE FOR 18 HOURS PLUS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT DECISION, VERSUS WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE ONLY STAYING THERE FOR TWO HOURS, RIGHT? SO THAT DATA'S REALLY GONNA HELP US ANSWER THAT QUESTION THAT, UM, WE WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, A VERY VALUABLE DEBATE ABOUT, UM, BUT WE'RE GUESSING, RIGHT? WE, WE NEED TO KNOW SOME FACTS IN ORDER TO, TO BUILD A POLICY AROUND OUR ENVIRONMENT.
SO THAT, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
TO THAT POINT, JUST TO ADD TO IT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, AT LEAST INITIALLY IS LOOK AT SOME MARKET RATE DATA WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO SET THAT.
BUT THEN YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
ONCE WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY IN PLACE AND WE START GATHERING THAT DATA, WE CAN THEN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF SEEING WHAT'S THE REAL IMPACT OF
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THAT.SO, UH, I KNOW EARLIER IT INDICATED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE THE RATES IN PLACE BY AUGUST.
I WOULD SAY THAT'S A TARGET THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT A, NOT TO EXCEED DATE, IT'S JUST KIND OF THE LOGICAL SEQUENCE THAT WE'VE LAID OUT.
UM, BUT WHATEVER INFORMATION WE DO NEED BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WE CAN OBTAIN THROUGH THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S GONNA BE INSTALLED, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY WORK ON, ADDITIONALLY WORK ON BRINGING FORWARD YOU MARKET RATE DATA NOW, SO WE CAN AT LEAST, UH, GET SOME IDEA OF, OF A STARTING POINT.
SO, UH, FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, UM, IF, IF THE TARGET IS TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE BY AUGUST OR SOMEWHERE CLOSE THEREAFTER, UM, I'D ASKED THE QUESTION BEFORE ABOUT, UM, THE FLEXIBILITY OF HAVING RATES AND HOURS OF OPERATION BY RESOLUTION, UH, RATHER THAN ANY ORDINANCE ITSELF, AS LONG AS THAT DOESN'T CREATE ANY SORT OF ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY AFTER THE DATA IS GATHERED TO THEN SET THE RATES LATER THAN THE TARGET OF AUGUST FOR AN ENFORCE, SORRY, FOR, UM, ORDINANCE ADOPTION.
I'M SEEING MR. UH, I'M SEEING MR. GUER NOT HIS HEAD, SO I GUESS I'M GETTING A YES.
THE, THE ORDINANCE WOULD STATE THAT THE, THE PARKING RATES WOULD BE SET BY RESOLUTION.
THAT RESOLUTION WOULD HAVE THAT EFFECT OF, OF ALL.
I I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY IN YOUR, YOUR, UM, PRESENTATION OR SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED IN OUR PACKET.
YEAH, I THINK BEFORE IT WAS IN THE ORDINANCE, SO LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGE.
UM, THE ONLY THING WE ADDED HERE WAS THE, THE BEACH, UH, BUSINESS BEACH PARKING PASSES.
SO ALLOWING FOR BUSINESSES TO, UH, PURCHASE YEARLY OR SEASONAL PASSES FOR EMPLOYEES OR HOWEVER THAT HAS WORKED OUT.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE ONGOING COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE TOWN AND AND BUSINESSES.
UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL CONTINUE TO, TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND, AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
UM, WITH OUTCOMES OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, I WOULDN'T, SO I'LL JUST SPEAK UP ABOUT ONE OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, RESIDENTS AND PASSES AND BEACH FEES, AND THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY PERTAINED TO ANY SPECIFIC, BUT THERE'S A NUMBER.
UM, IT WOULD BE MY INTENTION, UM, THAT AS WE SEE THE DATA, WE SET THE FEES, UM, THAT AT SOME POINT, IF NOT, UM, HOPEFULLY MAYBE OUT OF THE GATE, UM, RESIDENTS FEE 15 YEAR WOULD BE, UM, ELIMINATED AND THAT A RESIDENT WOULD HAVE A FREE PARKING, UM, PASS TO UTILIZE THE SPACES ON THE ISLAND.
I THINK IT'S FAIR AND IT IS CERTAINLY INEQUITABLE, UM, SINCE WE'RE ALREADY PAYING TAXES TO, TO PROVIDE THAT PARKING, UM, SHOULD GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO MY LONG-TERM GOAL, IF NOT SH UM, IMMEDIATELY OUT THE GATE IS TO SEE THOSE YEARLY FEES DONE AWAY WITH.
SO IF YOU'RE TAKING YOUR GRANDCHILD TO CELEBRATION PARK, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, UM, WORRY ABOUT, UM, MAKING SURE YOU HAVE A PASS IF YOU TYPICALLY WOULDN'T HAVE A PASS IF YOU DON'T NEED A BEACH PASS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEACH ACCESS.
IF THAT MAKES CLEAR PEOPLE IN ALL USE BROADLY CIRCLE, CUZ THEY, I, I ALWAYS DO BRADLEY CIRCLE RESIDENTS WON'T LIKELY NEED A BEACH PASS AND BECAUSE WE HAVE PRIVATE BEACH ACCESS AND SO, BUT WE DO GO TO CAGNEY TO USE THE PARKS, ET CETERA.
SO I DON'T WANNA FIND OUR RESIDENTS IN A POSITION WHERE THEY NEED TO BUY A BEACH PASS JUST FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND TO MAKE THAT FAIR ACROSS THE ISLAND FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
IT IS MY HOPE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE A FEE AT ALL FOR RESIDENTS.
HOPEFULLY THAT WAS CLEAR, SIMPLE STATEMENT I THOUGHT.
SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT SETTING FEES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SETTING THEM WITH RESIDENTS IN MIND.
ANYWAY, NOTHING HERE HAS CHANGED IN THIS SLIDE.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A, A QUESTION OF SETTING THE RATES INTO COUNCILMAN BROWN'S COMMENT.
UM, A LOT OF THAT WILL BE INFORMED BY THE DATA THAT IS COLLECTED OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND GIVE US A STARTING PLACE AND THEN THOSE CAN BE ESTABLISHED VIA RESOLUTION, UM, AT ANY TIME ONCE THE ORDINANCE IS PUT IN PLACE.
UM, THE ONE COMMENT HERE THAT I HAVE IS, UH, TO, TO SOLICIT MORE FEEDBACK.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT STAFF COULD PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS
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PERHAPS ON TERMS OF, UM, UH, HOURS OF OPERATION FOR DIFFERENT PARKS, UM, FOR DIFFERENT PARKING AREAS, AND THEN ALSO FOR DIFFERENT USES.SO I, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS COMMENTS LAST MONTH ABOUT, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A, A SOCCER FIELD NEARBY AND, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING THE PARK TO STAY OPEN FOR, FOR THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED TO UTILIZE THE PARKING FOR THAT.
UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE CAN DO AND, AND TAILOR EACH PARK TO, YOU KNOW, WITH ITS OWN SET OF HOURS.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, SET UP IN THE ORDINANCE.
UM, I WOULD JUST POINT OUT ONE, ONE SMALL POINT DRESEN BEACH PARKING, I BELIEVE, UH, WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR, UM, CONSTRUCTION, THERE WERE ALREADY SET TIME FOR OPERATION WITH THE GATE CLOSING, UM, THERE IN RESPECT FOR THE BRADLEY BEACH, UH, ROAD COMMUNITY.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T STEP ON ANY EXISTING.
UM, I'M THAT'S BEEN ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
SO, WE'LL, WE WILL WORK TO BRING BACK, UM, SOMETIMES FOR EACH PARK FOR, FOR HOURS OF OPERATION.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE TURTLE PATROL, SO MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE A SPECIAL, SOME SORT OF WAY TO GET INTO THE PARK TO, TO USE THE PARKING SPACES SO THAT THEY F**K THEIR ACTIVITIES.
WE HAVE UPDATED THE, THE MAPS HERE, UM, AND DISPLAY THESE IN THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE.
THESE MAPS, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE AN EXACT OUTLINE LIKE YOU SEE HERE.
THEY COULD BE MORE, YOU KNOW, BLIPS THAT, THAT SHOW THE GENERAL AREA, BUT THAT WAY WE'RE NOT SHOWING THE ACTUAL BOUNDARY LINES.
UM, BUT THESE ARE THE UPDATED MAPS.
UH, I KNOW THAT THERE WERE A FEW, UH, AREAS THAT WERE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR LAST MONTH.
SO THIS IS THE MID NORTH END BEACH PARKING AREAS.
THANKS FOR TAKING OUT THE ALDER, UH, LANE PATHWAY.
AND NOTHING HERE HAS CHANGED WITH RULES AND REGULATIONS.
AND THEN EXEMPTIONS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES OR, UH, VEHICLES OF DISABLED INDIVIDUALS OR, UH, TOWN OFFICIALS ENGAGED IN OFFICIAL DUTIES.
AND THEN ANY EXEMPTIONS OF PAID PARKING, UH, FOR PERMITTED SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ARE APPROVED BY THE TOWN MANAGER OR HIS OR HER DESIGNEE MADE SOME CHANGES HERE.
WE TOOK AWAY THE, UH, FLAT FEE PENALTY THAT DID NOT SEEM TO HAVE, UM, MUCH DESIRE TO, TO IMPLEMENT THAT.
SO WE HAVE A, UH, SAMPLE, UH, GRADUATED PENALTY STRUCTURE HERE THAT STARTS AT $50 FOR YOUR FIRST VIOLATION.
UH, AND THEN THERE WILL ALSO BE A REMINDER OF THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS AND PARKING REGULATIONS, UH, AFFIXED WITH THAT CITATION.
AGAIN, IT'S A ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION.
UH, THE SECOND VIOLATION WOULD BE A HUNDRED DOLLARS, AND THEN A NOTIFICATION OF POTENTIAL TOW OR MOBILIZATION.
AND THEN A THIRD IN SUBSEQUENT VIOLATIONS WOULD BE FINES OF $150 AND TOWING OR MOBILIZATION AT THE VEHICLE OWNER'S EXPENSE.
UH, SO THOSE ARE, UH, FINES THAT CERTAINLY CAN BE ADJUSTED, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO PUT UP THERE AS AN EXAMPLE TO, TO DEMONSTRATE HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
I'M SURE IT'S JUST AN OVERSIGHT.
BUT ON THE SECOND BULLET, UM, POTENTIAL TOW AND MO MOBILIZATION, UM, I WOULD HAVE THE SAME STATEMENT AS ON THE THIRD BULLET, UM, AT THE VEHICLE, A VEHICLE OWNER'S EXPENSE.
OH, JUST A QUESTION ON THE, UH, ON THE TOWING, OUR MEMORY'S STARTING TO GO OLDER.
I GET, UH,
WE, THE, THE DOESN'T HAVE THE PRICING EMBEDDED INTO IT.
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE TOWN ADOPTED A CAP IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT THAT MAY BE CHARGED FOR A NON-CONSENSUAL TOW BASED UPON IF THEY ARRIVE ON SITE, IF THE VEHICLE'S ACTUALLY BEEN ATTACHED, AND THEN IF THEY ACTUALLY REMOVE IT FROM THE SITE.
AND SO THOSE PROVISIONS ARE, ARE IN PLACE WITH REGARDS TO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT MAY BE CHARGED UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
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BOY? UM, 2012, 2013.IT'S, IT'S BEEN, UH, SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME.
IT, IT WAS DONE IN RESPONSE TO THE INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED IN BLUFFTON WITH THE, UH, SHOOTING THAT HAPPENED WITH THE TOW TRUCK DRIVER.
SO IT'S, I WOULD SAY CLOSE TO 10 YEARS NOW THAT THE TOWN HAS HAD THAT CODE IN PLACE.
I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET, UH, MORE MONEY FOR THE TOW TRUCKS
IT CERTAINLY COULD BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CODE, WE WOULD HAVE TO AMEND IT VIA AN ORDINANCE TO CHANGE THOSE RATES.
BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY UP TO THE DIRECTION OF, OF COUNCIL TO, UH, DO THAT.
JOSH, WILL YOU, UM, PROVIDE TO THE COMMITTEE AND ALL OF TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS PLEASE THAT ORDINANCE SO WE CAN HAVE IT? I THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, ALEX, IF I COULD FOLLOW UP.
I, I KNOW I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY INCIDENTS WE HAVE OF TOWING.
UH, UM, IT MAYBE NOT A LOT, BUT I THINK MAYBE IF WE HAVE SOME IDEA OF FREQUENCY OF TOWING AND IF THAT'S AN ISSUE FOR THE TOWING COMPANIES THAT ARE USED, SOME JURISDICTIONS ALSO HAVE A ROTATIONAL POLICY.
SO IT'S NOT MY UNCLE FRED'S TOWING COMPANY THAT'S ALWAYS CALLED
SO WE, WE DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.
AND UNCLE FRED, I DON'T HAVE AN UNCLE FRED NOR A TOWING COMPANY.
SO JUST WE DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.
UH, COUNCILWOMAN BRYSON, I WILL TELL YOU, WE HAVE A VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF OPTIONS, PARTLY BECAUSE OF TWO REASONS.
ONE, VEHICLE STORAGE ON THE ISLAND SPACES AT A PREMIUM.
AND SO WE DO ALLOW FOR STORAGE OFF ISLAND, BUT IT LIMITS THE NUMBER OF COMPANIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF THE ISLAND.
TWO, WE ALSO REQUIRE THAT YOU ACCEPT, UH, OTHER FORMS OF PAYMENT.
AND SOME OF THE TOWING COMPANIES HAVE BEEN VERY RELUCTANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE FOLKS ARE TYPICALLY NOT VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THEIR TAR CAR TOWED.
AND ONCE THEY'VE GOTTEN IT BACK, THEY'LL CALL UP THEIR CREDIT CARD COMPANY OR THEIR BANK AND DISPUTE THE CHARGE.
AND SO THE, THE, A LOT OF THE COMPANIES REQUIRE CASH PAYMENTS ONLY.
UM, SO THE ONES THAT WE HAVE ON OUR ROTATION LIST ARE ONES THAT HAVE AGREED TO TAKE THOSE OTHER FORMS OF PAYMENT.
AND SO WE DO GO THROUGH THEM TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY AND THAT SAME ROTATIONAL POLICY, UH, IS NOW BEING FOLLOWED BY OUR CONTRACTOR.
SO YES, WELL, SO ALL OF OUR TOES ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UM, CUZ WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THEM ANYTIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO TOW SOMEBODY SO THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T REPORT THEIR VEHICLE BEING STOLEN.
UM, SO YEAH, SO, BUT IT, IT'LL, THE TOWING WILL COME THROUGH US, BUT AT THE DIRECTION OR NOTICE OF THE CONTRACTOR, AND THIS WAS A TOPIC THAT WE DISCUSSED JUST A YEAR OR TWO, MAYBE THREE YEARS AGO AS WELL, AND THERE WAS SOME CHANGES AND TO THE PROVISIONS MADE SO THAT IT WAS MORE SO THAT IT WAS MORE USER FRIENDLY YEAH.
TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE GETTING, SO IF THERE'S ANY OF THAT ADDITIONAL, JUST AS AN UPDATE, CUZ I THINK IT IS A CONCERN OF THE, AS NOW AS WE'RE GOING INTO A PARKING, UM, MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE PAST HAS BEEN SO WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
DURING THE PANDEMIC TOWING HAD BEEN KIND OF OUR PRIMARY MEANS OF ENFORCEMENT FOR IMPROPER PARKING AND BAD BEHAVIOR.
UM, AND WE HEARD FEEDBACK BOTH GOOD AND BAD AS A RESULT OF THAT.
AND SO WE DID MAKE SOME CHANGES.
HAVING AN ADMINISTRATIVE PENALTY SYSTEM AND HAVING ANOTHER MECHANISM BY WHICH WE CAN TRY TO GET ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE A VEHICLE TOWED, I THINK IS JUST GONNA GIVE US MORE OPTIONS TO BE ABLE TO REACT TO THE SITUATION AND ADDRESS IT APPROPRIATELY.
AS I RECALL THE DISCUSSION, THERE WAS A, THE DISTINCT DESIRE TO MAKE SURE WE DID NOT GO DOWN THE ROAD WHERE WE HAD ROVING TOW TRUCKS, UM, OR ANY TYPE OF THING LIKE THAT, THAT IS NOT HILTON HEAD.
AND THAT WAS, SO THERE WAS A LOT INTO THIS.
IT MIGHT BE WORTH, UM, A QUICK UPDATE AND READ FOR FOLKS.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE WERE COMMENTS ABOUT THE APPEALS CRITERIA AND, AND HOW THAT WOULD BE EVALUATED.
SO WE HAVE ADDED, UM, EXAMPLE, APPEAL, UH, CRITERIA.
AND THIS COULD BE BUILT IN, IN THE ORDINANCE OR THIS COULD BE THE, THE, THE GUIDELINES THAT THE, UH, EITHER THE PARKING AUTHORITY OR THE TOWN MANAGER HIS, UH, DESIGNEE WOULD FOLLOW.
BUT IF THERE'S ANY INCORRECT OR MISSING INFORMATION ON THE TICKET, UH, SUCH AS A WRONG LICENSE PLATE NUMBER, THAT COULD BE GROUNDS FOR A VALID APPEAL, UM, IF THEY HAVE A VALID PARKING PERMIT, BUT THEY WERE STILL ISSUED A CITATION.
UH, IF THERE IS ANY ISSUES WITH THE SIGNAGE OR, OR MARKING THE SIGN ASSIGNMENT SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO, UH, PAID PARKING THAT COULD BE GROUNDS, UH, IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OR UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT COULD BE CORROBORATED, THEN THAT COULD BE, AND THEN ANY, ANY DEFECTS IN THE PARKING TECHNOLOGY.
SO THOSE ARE ALL, UH, EXAMPLES OF CRITERIA THAT, UH, WHOEVER'S HEARING THAT APPEAL COULD EVALUATE THAT AND, AND MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO, UH, TO DISMISS THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION.
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THAT IS IT FROM WHAT WE, UH, FROM, FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED LAST MONTH.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE NO? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC WORK? THANK YOU, MA'AM.
MADAM CHAIR, IF I COULD MAKE A FLIGHT REQUEST, UM, WHEN THE STAFF SENDS US, UH, DOCUMENTS, IF YOU COULD NOTE WHERE THE CHANGES ARE THAT REALLY HELPS OUT HIGHLIGHTING OR REDLINING OR SOMETHING SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO LINE BY LINE WILL DO BE APPRECIATED.
I APPRECIATE THE, UM, EFFORT THAT EVERYONE IS PUTTING INTO THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FULLY INFORMED.
UM, THIS IS A BIG DEAL MOVING FORWARD.
UM, NEW BUSINESS, UH, JEFF, OUR TOWN BUCKALOO, OUR TOWN ENGINEER CONSIDERATION SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED APPROACH TO COMPLETE A SWAT ASSESSMENT OF SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING FOR HILTON HEAD.
WE HAVE A, A CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED APPROACH TO THE STRENGTH TO COMPLETE A STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, AND OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS OR SWAT ASSESSMENT FOR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING.
YES, THIS IS, UM, WITHIN THE, THE TOWN'S ADOPTED, UH, STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, ONE OF THE, UM, ISSUES WE WISH TO PURSUE, YOU KNOW, TO, UM, BETTER PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND AND PROVIDE OUR RESIDENTS, UH, A MORE EFFICIENT AND, AND BETTER WAY OF MANAGING WITH TRASH, UH, SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING.
AND SO WHAT THIS IS THE SWAT ANALYSIS, UM, I IS THE STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS, UM, OF SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING HERE ON HILTON HEAD HIGH.
AND WHAT I'VE DONE HERE, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION OF COURSE, THAT WE WANT TOWN COUNCIL TO, TO APPROVE THAT, UH, SHOWS THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND THIS IS THE, THE WAY WE SHOULD ADDRESS THIS, UM, INITIATIVE.
BUT I HAVE, UM, OUTLINED THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.
I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO SEE WHAT THIS ANALYSIS WOULD PROVIDE.
AND THUS, UM, HAVE PRESENTED A TABLE OF CONTENTS.
UM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING THIS IN-HOUSE AND SINCE THOUGHT WE SHOULD, UH, BE PRUDENT AND WISE TO SEEK THE SERVICES OF A PROFESSIONAL.
AND SO WE HAVE A, A SOLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT FOR ABBY GOLDSMITH, WHO IS A CONSULTANT THAT RECENTLY UPDATED THE COUNTY SOLID WASTE, UH, RECYCLING AND MANAGEMENT PLAN LAST JULY.
UM, HER FIRM IS BASED OUT OF ATLANTA AND SHE HAS BEEN WORKING ON SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING ISSUES WITHIN, UH, HILTON HEAD AND BUFORD COUNTY FOR THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS.
SO, UH, I THINK WE HAVE A, A VERY, VERY GOOD EXPERT READY TO GO.
UM, THE ISSUE IS THAT AS WE'VE LAID OUT THIS SWOT ANALYSIS AND THE TABLE OF CONTENTS, WE WOULD, UH, SEEK THE COMMITTEE AND, AND FULL COUNSEL'S ENDORSEMENT AND APPROVE.
SO I CAN TALK ABOUT IT OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE OUTLINE.
AND AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, IN THE END WHAT WE WOULD WANT FROM, UH, THE CONSULTANT'S EFFORTS WOULD BE A REPORT, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH A TABLE CONTENTS AND SUCH, WE WOULD, UH, LAY OUT THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE ANALYSIS, UH, WOULD WANT THEM TO SUMMARIZE UPFRONT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND A PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD THAT WE COULD ACT UPON.
UM, RESEARCH ALL APPLICABLE TOWN, COUNTY, AND STATE CODES AFFECTING SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING.
UH, THERE WOULD BE A STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
UM, THERE IS A COUNTY BOARD SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING BOARD.
UM, HILTON NET ISLAND HAS A REPRESENTATIVE, MIKE BENNETT.
UH, HE, HE'S INSTRUMENTAL TO, UM, SEEING HOW THINGS ARE DONE HERE.
HE OWNS A RECYCLING COMPANY THAT'S BEEN DOING BUSINESS ON, ON HILTON NET ISLAND FOR OVER TWO DECADES.
SO HE IS A KEY PLAYER IN THAT.
BUT YEAH, WE WOULD'VE WANTED TO REACH OUT TO, TO THE PUDS, UH, COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES, EVERYONE, ET CETERA, SEE WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR PROBLEMS ARE, UH, ISSUES WE NEED TO ADDRESS, HOW THINGS COULD BE MADE BETTER.
UM, PART OF HER, UH, MS. GOLDSMITH'S, UH, TASK WILL BE TO ASSESS CURRENT PRACTICES WITH THE PRIVATE HAULERS NOW, UM, HOW THAT WORKS FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND IN DOCUMENT, OF COURSE THE, THE SWOT ANALYSIS ITSELF.
AND SO I'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED A FEW BULLETS TO, TO HELP ALONG WITH THAT.
THINGS THAT WE SEE ARE IMPORTANT UNDER EACH OF THOSE LETTERS IN, IN THE SWAT ANALYSIS.
AND, AND ONE OF THE KEY THINGS, YOU KNOW, AS I LEARNED MORE ABOUT THIS, UM, THERE IS A MURF FACILITY IN THE WORKS, UH, MATERIALS RECOVERY FACILITY.
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IS WORKING ON A SITE SOUTH OF THE BROAD.UM, THE, THE EXACT LOCATION OF THAT IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED, UH, THAT THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT TWO SITES.
BUT, UM, PLEASE KNOW, COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS IS WORKING TO GET A, UH, A MURF IN PLACE.
UM, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE, THE SCHEDULE, UH, PROVIDES FOR THAT BASED ON THE SITE SELECTION, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING KEY THAT, UM, THEY COULD OPERATE ON THE WEEKENDS.
IT'S A SHORTER HAUL DISTANCE, UH, FOR MANY, MANY REASONS.
THAT IS A KEY FACTOR IN US HAVING BETTER SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING OPPORTUNITIES.
LIGHTS ARE, THERE WAS ONE, UM, NEXT TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER OFF OF SIMMONS VIEW ROAD IN BLUFFTON.
AND A LOT OF ISSUES I THINK TO OVERCOME WITH THAT.
THERE WOULD BE REZONINGS, ET CETERA.
THEN THERE IS ANOTHER SITE CLOSER TO THE JASPER COUNTY LINE THAT I BELIEVE THEY'RE PURSUING.
UM, SO ANYWAY, IT'S UP TO THE COUNTY TO, TO FIND THE BEST SITE, UH, MAKE THE DES BEST DEAL ACQUIRE PROPERTY.
UM, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY CONTRACTED WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM EXPERT IN SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING WHO, UH, HAS LAID OUT, I GUESS THE SIZE NEEDED, THE EQUIPMENT NEEDED TO COMPACT, UH, AND RECYCLE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO, SO THERE'S THINGS MOVING IN THE, IN THE WORKS.
IT'S NOT JUST, WE'LL WAIT UNTIL A SITE IS SELECTED AND THEN BEGIN WORKS.
SO, BUT IT, BUT IT'S KEY TO I THINK, OUR OPPORTUNITIES AND RIGHT NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN PLACE.
ANY QUESTIONS, STEVE? NO, ALEX.
UM, AS I LOOK AT THE TABLE CONTEST, AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS, THIS HELPS AS WE ARE MAKING COMMENTS.
UM, I GUESS WHAT MY STATEMENT COULD FALL ON NUMBER FIVE AS WELL AS THE, I GUESS THE OPPORTUNITY OR THREAT.
UM, BUT WE TALK ABOUT, UH, PUBLIC OUTREACH, THAT TOWN WEBSITES, SURVEYS, AND PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATIONS.
THEN WE FOLLOW UP WITH DOCUMENTATION OF STAKEHOLDERS NEEDS AND DESIRES, RIGHT? AND WE, WE, WE HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF OUR HILTON HEAD COMMUNITY AND RESIDENTS THAT DO NOT BELONG TO ANY PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION, POA.
UM, SO I GUESS FROM, FROM FROM MY VIEWPOINT, WHEN I SEE DOCUMENTATION OF STAKEHOLDERS, UM, YES, MR. CHRISTIAN WHO'S HERE, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS TOPIC.
UM, COULD VERY EASILY, UH, PIN A LETTER FROM HILTON HEAD PLANTATION WITH A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR DESIRES, BUT NOT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD ON HILTON HEAD HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT A BIT MORE AS FAR AS HOW WE ARE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
OF COURSE, THAT TO ME WOULD BE A THREAT BECAUSE WE COULD BE DEVELOPING A PROGRAM BUT NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO FIT ALL OF OUR, UH, RESIDENTS HERE ON HILTON HEAD.
AND I THINK THE BEST WAY PERHAPS TO, TO TACKLE THAT WOULD BE IF THERE'S A PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGN, PRINT MEDIA, NEWS MEDIA, THAT THE TOWN OF HILTON ITEM IS SOLICITING INPUT.
AND IF WE PUT ON OUR WEBSITE A SURVEY, SO IF IT'S IN THE NEWSPAPER AND THEN SIX O'CLOCK NEWS, HEY, WE'RE SEEKING INPUT, HOW WE CAN IMPROVE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING AND GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND THERE'S A SURVEY THAT ANYONE CAN FILL OUT.
I THINK THE TOWN SHOULD DO THIS OR THAT.
AND, AND THEN I THINK WE'D HAVE GOOD DATA AND METRICS.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING IN THE DOCUMENTATION, IF WE COULD GET THAT AND WHETHER IT'S ANONYMOUS OR, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY YOU WERE STREET ADDRESS OR WHERE YOU CAME FROM, WE YEAH.
TRYING TO GET DOCUMENTATION ON HERE'S WHAT THE FOLKS WE'VE SPOKEN WITH FEEL, MAYBE PUT A SIGN AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTER WHERE PEOPLE TAKE THEIR HOUSE ALL TRASH.
WELL, I WOULD ALSO, UM, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU, SO MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES OUTSIDE OF THE GATES, UM, AND THOSE WITHOUT POAS FORMALLY, UM, IN PLACE OFTEN DON'T GET HEARD.
UM, AND WHILE THEIR SURVEY COMMENTS ARE, ARE HELPFUL, UM, I THINK THAT HAVING SOMEONE WHO CAN BE THEIR SPOKESPERSON AND ALEX, I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH, UM, DEFINES OUR, OUR AREAS, UM, AS COUNCIL PEOPLE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER, I WILL WILLING TO BE THAT SPOKESPERSON AND HAVE THOSE MEETINGS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT MESSAGE IS BEING SENT BACK.
AND I'M BRINGING BACK THAT, UM, THAT INFORMATION TO THE DISCUSSION AS A MEMBER OF THAT TEAM SO THAT THEY, YES, PUBLIC MEETINGS ARE NOT HEARD.
AND, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WOULD DO THAT AS WELL, BUT I CERTAINLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M INCLUDED IN THAT LOOP, BUT ALSO ALSO CONSIDER, UH, CHURCHES ACROSS THE ISLAND.
UM, THEY HAVE SOME GOOD OUTREACH
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PROGRAMS WITH FOLKS TOO.AND WE COULD ALWAYS USE THE GOOD OLD FASHIONED MAILBOX, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU GET SOMETHING IN YOUR MAILBOX MOST OF THE TIME IT'S NOT WORTH OPENING.
BUT THIS MAYBE IF IT WAS DONE IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE'S EYES WOULD BE DRAWN TO IT AND THEY'VE HAD ALL THIS OTHER INFORMATION, LOOK FOR SOMETHING IN THE MAIL, IN A PLACE TO GATHER AND TELL.
CHAIR, I DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROPOSAL THAT YOU'VE OUTLINED.
UM, AND JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.
THE CONTRACTOR AND I LIKE THAT WE'RE USING SOMEBODY WHO'S FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, BUT WHAT'S THE COST OF THE CONTRACT AND IS IT BUDGETED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR OR NEXT FISCAL YEAR OR, UM, THIS FISCAL YEAR? THAT'S STILL TO BE DETERMINED.
UM, ONCE WE GET THIS OUTLINED, I'M SPEAKING WITH MS. GOLDSMITH AND, AND WE'LL IDENTIFY SCOPE, SCHEDULE, AND FEE, UM, IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS, LOW TENS I WOULD EXPECT.
NOT EXORBITANT AND, AND THE SCHEDULE.
UM, THE SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL AND, AND THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE WISH TO PURSUE, UM, TRY TO TIGHTEN UP THE, THE PERFORMANCE SCHEDULE OF THE SWAT.
UM, PROBABLY BE FOUR TO FIVE UNDER SIX MONTH TIMEFRAME THAT WE WOULD BE BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH THE PRESENTATION OF THE RESULTS AND, AND DIRECTION MOVE FORWARD.
I'M SURE OUR FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE CHAIR WILL MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE BUDGETS ON THOSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS MATTER? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD? YEAH, REAL, REAL QUICK, UM, COUNCIL MAYOR BRYON HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
A LOT OF THE NATIVE ISLAND COMMUNITY AND USED CAN BE CO-OP AND EVEN HAND SOMETHING OUT.
THEY HAVE TO STOP THERE TO HAVE THEIR DECAL VALIDATED.
SO HANDING THEM A PIECE OF PAPER AND SAID, HEY, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? HERE'S A WEBSITE OR A QUESTIONNAIRE.
I THINK THAT'D BE A, A GREAT WAY TO CO-OPT THAT, UH, THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY IN, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, OVER 60% OF THE FOLKS IN, IN HILTON HAVE, THEY'RE REALLY DOWN TO ONE COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL HALL BOUGHT EACH OTHER OUT, AND THEY'RE DYING FOR ANOTHER PERSON TO COME INTO THE INDUSTRY OPOLY AT, AT, AT, AT THIS POINT IN FRONT, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP AND THERE, THERE'S A A LOT TO DO HERE, AND WE'RE VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
SO, UM, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO MOVE THIS TO TOWN? TOWN? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US TODAY? HERE WITH THIS? YES.
THAT, THAT IS THE GOAL, RIGHT? SO IF THIS COMMITTEE WOULD ENDORSE, UH, THE RESOLUTION AND THE OUTLINE OF THE SWAT ANALYSIS TO FULL COUNCIL AND COUNCIL WOULD PASS THE RESOLUTION TO ACT AND WE'LL TAKE THAT DIRECTION.
MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE MOTION, I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND, UM, THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL CONSIDER THE PROPOSAL SUBMITTED, UM, TO COMPLETE A SWAT OF SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING.
I'M TRYING TO READ THIS WITHOUT MY GLASSES.
UH, CAYA, WILL YOU CALL HER ROLE PLEASE? CERTAINLY.
AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE, UM, MAC FORD, OUR GENERAL COUNSEL BACK COPE TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND SHORE BEACH SERVICES CONCERNING THE ALLEGATION OF LIFEGUARD PERSONNEL.
THANKS TO OUR ASSISTANT TOWN CLERK FOR OUR ASSISTANCE WITH PRESENTATION MATERIALS ON IT.
MORNING AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST FROM SHORE BEACH SERVICES TO AMEND THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT TO THE TOWN, UH, BE BETWEEN IT AND THE TOWN.
CURRENTLY, THE, UH, SHORE BEACH SERVICES PROVIDES LIFEGUARD AND BEACH RENTAL EQUIPMENT SERVICES UNDER A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT WAS, UH, MOST RECENTLY DATED MARCH 20 OR MAY 24TH, 2019.
AND SHORE BEACH SERVICES SUBMITTED A LETTER LAST MONTH REQUESTING TO MAKE A MODIFICATION TO THAT AGREEMENT.
UH, IN SUMMARY, THEY'RE SEEKING TO AMEND THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT BY REPLACING THE TERM RENTAL LIFEGUARD WITH RENTAL ATTENDANT.
AND THEN TWO, DEFINING THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF RENTAL ATTENDANCE IN OFFERING SUPPLEMENTARY SUPPORT FOR BEACH PATROL AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.
AND WE HAVE MR. WAGNER FROM SHORE
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BEACH SERVICES HERE, AND HE'S GONNA FURTHER EXPLAIN THE, UH, THE PURPOSE FOR THIS, THESE REQUESTED REQUESTED AMENDMENTS.I'M THE DIRECTOR OF SHORE BEACH SERVICE.
UM, OUR SERVICE AGREEMENT REQUIRES TO HAVE A UNITED STATES LIFESAVING ASSOCIATION, UH, CERTIFICATION FOR, UH, CERTIFIED LIFEGUARD AGENCIES.
UH, WE'VE ALWAYS COMPLIED WITH ALL OF THE STANDARDS OF THE, UH, AT A RECENT MEETING PROPOSAL, UH, THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW OUR STAFF THAT ARE CONDUCTING RENTAL ACTIVITIES, UH, AS A LIFEGUARD.
THAT HASN'T PASSED YET AT THIS POINT, BUT IT WAS STRONGLY SUGGESTED, UH, THAT WE CHANGED THE UNIT.
UM, SO CURRENTLY, UH, WE'VE STOPPED REFERRING TO OUR RENTAL STAFF AS RENTAL LIFEGUARDS.
WE CALL 'EM RENTAL ATTENDANCE.
UH, AND WE PUT THEM IN UNIFORMS THAT SAY RESPONSE TEAM RATHER THAN LIFEGUARD.
UM, THEY CERTIFIED AND TRAINED AS LIFEGUARDS DOING THE SAME JOB TASK.
UM, SO, UH, AND OUR HIGHCHAIR, LIFEGUARDS WOULD CONTINUE TO WEAR EVERYTHING.
UH, WE DO FEEL THAT THE CONTRACT, UH, WITH THE TOWN, THE AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN, AND I'LL, I'LL SCROLL DOWN HERE TO THE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, PAT? I, I DO JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.
I I DO APPRECIATE THIS CHANGE.
I, I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE BEEN MORE ASSERTIVE IN DOING IT DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT HADN'T YET PASSED THE ASSOCIATION.
UM, AND YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE THE TITLE ON THE UNIFORMS, IS IT, ARE YOU ALSO CHANGING THE COLOR OF THE UNIFORM FROM RED TO YEAH, WE DID.
BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM TO.
RED IS VERY ASSOCIATED REGARDING, YES.
UH, SO THEY'RE WEARING OIL BLUE.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE NUMBER OF LIFEGUARDS IN THE HIGHCHAIRS, SO TO SPEAK, WILL THAT BE THE SAME, AT THE SAME LOCATION? SO, UH, I, I WOULD ASSUME THAT UNDER YOUR EXPERTISE YOU DETERMINE THE LOCATIONS AND HOW MANY, BUT THERE'S NO CHANGE.
YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF LIFEGUARDS AND, AND LOCATIONS.
NO, UH, MAY I ASSUME THAT WITH THIS CHANGE, UH, THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE, IN THE CASE OF A SWIMMER HAVING TROUBLE WILL NOT BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.
SO FOR THOSE, UM, WHO ARE SITTING IN THE LOW CHAIRS BY THE RESORT ENTRANCES IN VARIOUS PLACES, THEY NO LONGER WILL HAVE OF NECESSARILY LIFEGUARDING DUTY AS THEIR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY ON THE BEACH.
AND, AND BY CONTRACT BEFORE THAT'S NOT BEEN THEIR PRIMARY DUTY.
UM, WE'RE JUST, CHANGE IS ESSENTIALLY JUST A UNIFORM CHANGE.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY NEED OR THOUGHT, UM, IN TERMS OF INCREASED NUMBER OF LIFEGUARDS AND RED SHIRTS ON, ON DUTY, GIVEN THE INCREASED NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON OUR BEACH? WE ADDED, UM, UH, YEAH, WE ADDED, UH, HIGHCHAIR LIFEGUARD TO BIRDS LAST YEAR.
WE'VE ADDED ONE, UH, BY HILTON HEAD RESORT AND ALL THAT CONTINUOUSLY MONITOR AND HAVE THOSE, AND HOW MANY, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL UMBRELLAS AND CHAIRS ARE BEING CUT OUT UMBRELLAS AND CHAIRS ACROSS THE BEACH, UH, SHORELINE.
UH, SAME AS I THINK WE INCREASED PASS THAT ON TO THE TOWN MANAGER.
ARE WE LOOKING FOR A, UH, RECOMMENDATION
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TO MOVE THIS ON TO TOWN COUNCIL? YES, SIR.PROBABLY WHAT YOU WERE GONNA ASK
I A MOVE THAT, UH, WE RECOMMEND THE TOWN COUNCIL, UM, CONSIDER FAVORABLY THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND SHORE BEACH SERVICES CONCERNING THE ALLOCATION OF LIFEGUARD PERSONNEL BECKER.
AND IS THIS A ROLL CALL? I BELIEVE IT IS.
UM, CINDY, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? CERTAINLY.
IS THERE A NEED TO ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? THERE IS A NEED TO ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE FOLLOWING MATTERS.
DISCUSSION OF PERSONNEL MATTERS PURSUANT TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA OF FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACTS SECTION 30 DASH FOUR DASH 70 A ONE RELATED TO APPOINTMENTS TO TOWN BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES.
NUMBER ONE, THE ACCOMMODATION TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE, TWO BOARD OF THE ZONING APPEALS THREE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THERE A MOTION? ONE QUICK QUESTION.
I I, I KNOW IN THE INFORMATION WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED, THERE'S SOME OTHER VACANCIES COMING UP AS OF JUNE 30.
UH, BUT WE JUST HAVE A LIST OF 1, 2, 3, 4 BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS.
I, I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER WE NEED TO ADD ANNIE TO THE LIST.
I THINK AT THIS MOMENT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE FOR REAPPOINTMENTS, UM, CONSIDERATION.
AND WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE OTHERS IN UPCOMING MEETINGS.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE INCLUDED ALL WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT.
AND I, I ALSO WANT TO JUST MAKE HIS POINT OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS AND I CERTAINLY ASKED MY OWN AS TO, UM, EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, NECESSITY OF EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THESE DISCUSSIONS.
AND, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I DIDN'T GET THIS RIGHT, THE REASON THAT WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY WITH THESE MATTERS IS BECAUSE SPECIFIC NAMES, UH, WILL BE DISCUSSED AND THAT IS A PRIVATE MATTER THAT WE HOLD CONFIDENTIAL.
UM, IF ANY ACTION IS TAKEN, WE WILL COME OUT OF EXEC EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH THAT ACTION.
IF NO NAMES WERE BEING DISCUSSED, THEN WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION PUBLICLY HERE IN TERMS OF VACANCY NUMBERS AND CRITERIA, ET CETERA.
IS THAT CORRECT? DID I GET THAT RIGHT? I SEE A HEAD SHAKING.
I JUST WENT FOR THAT'S CORRECT.
AND JUST TO EVEN ADD TO THE RECORD EVEN MORE DETAIL, IT'S CODIFIED WITHIN TOWN CODE, UH, SECTION TWO DASH 13 DASH 30 SAYS, COUNSEL WILL MEET AND EXECUTIVE SESSION TO REVIEW THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POSITION.
A MAJORITY OF VOTE COUNSEL AND OPEN SESSION IS NEEDED TO APPOINT A NOMINEE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UM, WE HAD A, UH, MOTION IN A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
AND HAVING TAKEN NO ACTION, UM, IN EXEC EXCEPT I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING.