Apr 10, 2023 Town of Hilton Head Public Planning Committee

[1. Call to Order]

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GO. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

LIKE TO CALL OVER THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY APRIL 10TH AND THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FOR YOU. YES, THERE WE ARE. THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THAT WRONG? ABSOLUTELY.

[4. Approval of Minutes]

YES. WITH REGARD TO MINUTES OF OCTOBER 27, 2022 WAS NOT YET ON TOWN COUNCIL SO I WOULD NOT BE TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.

SO IF WE COULD JUST SEPARATE THOSE OUT WELL IS YOUR NAME ON THE OR YOU CAN SIMPLY ABSTAIN THAT'S FINE OKAY WE JUST PULL THAT ONE OUT THERE WITH REGARD TO THE MINUTES OF MARCH NINE THERE IS A PARAGRAPH UNFINISHED BUSINESS SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARD TO PHASE I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBERS STAND FOR THAT. I WANTED MAKE SURE THAT THE ELEMENTS OF CONCERN REGARDING MASS SCALE DENSITY HEIGHT AND FLOOR AREA RATIO BE SEPARATED OUT AND FOCUSED ON DURING PHASE AND I THINK THE STAFF HAS DONE THAT BUT I'D LIKE FOR THE MINUTES TO ADD A SENTENCE TO SAY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER STANFORD BRYSON REQUESTED THAT STANDARD REGARDING MASS SCALE DENSITY HEIGHT AND FOR AREA RATIO SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON AS THE FIRST PART OF PHASE FOUR.

SECOND THAT OKAY CAN THAT BE ADJUSTED AND IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT WE CAN APPROVE THE LANGUAGE AT THIS TIME. YES SIR.

OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL 3 MINUTES WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT MS. BRYSON WAS NOT HERE AND THEREFORE WOULD BE ABSTAINING ON THE OCTOBER 27TH MEETING AND THEN THE MARCH 9TH MEETING WOULD BE ADJUSTED AS AMENDED AS REQUESTED OKAY IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THREE AND THE SECOND A SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED THANK YOU THANK YOU AND AGAIN I HAVE A SET OF AGENDA WITH SO MANY

[5. Appearance by Citizens]

MR. HOAGLAND, GO HERE I'M GOING TO PASS I'M JUST GOING TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT ACTIONS YOU'VE TAKEN. YOU ACTUALLY COME THROUGH ON A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITIZENS WANT TO I'M NOT GOING TO LET THE COMMENT THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT NEW BUSINESS

[6A. Growth Framework and District Planning Initiative Presentation and Overview]

SEAN COLEMAN MORNING SEAN. GOOD MORNING. JOHN COLEMAN ASSISTANT MANAGER THE RECORD IS GOOD MORNING. SEAN COLEMAN ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER STILL FOR THE RECORD I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A WONDERFUL EASTER WEEKEND AND IS LOOKING FORWARD TO A EVEN BETTER HERITAGE WEEK AHEAD KNOW I AM WHAT A WAY TO GET THE WEEK STARTED WITH A DISCUSSION ABOUT GROWTH, GROWTH AND CONSERVATION FRAMEWORK FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND DISTRICT TO LOOK AT DISTRICT PLANNING AN EFFORT WILL SHAPE HILTON HEAD ISLAND FOR YEARS TO COME AND I'M HAPPY THAT WE'RE FINALLY HERE I MENTIONED AT A PREVIOUS MEETING I CAME HERE IN 2006 AND THIS WAS MY PASSION. I DID THE DISTRICT PLANS IN GREENVILLE AND HAPPY THAT WE ARE FINALLY MOVING THIS ALONG? I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION AND THE DISCUSSION TODAY REALLY IS THAT IS TO INTRODUCE THIS AND TO BEGIN THE CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMITTEE WITH COUNCIL THE CITIZENS TO TO CREATE A ISLAND WIDE MASTER PLAN THAT WILL SHAPE THE THE

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YOU ARE CLEARLY ON THE ON THE MARK HERE YOU'D LIKE I CAN ONLY GO TO EVERY FOURTH SLIDE AND WE'RE I'M SO ON THE AGENDA OF PURPOSE AND OUTCOME WHY ARE WE HERE AND WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO GET AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS AND INTERIM STEPS ALONG THE WAY WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE LINK IT TO CONNECTED PLANS, STUDIES AND PROCESSES WE HAVE OUR VISION, OUR PLAN WE HAVE THE BEACH COMPREHENSIVE BEACH MANAGER PLAN THAT WAS JUST ADOPTED LAST WEEK AT TOWN COUNCIL. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AND AND THE ABILITY TO LINK ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EXPECTATIONS BUILT IN THAT WOULD BE A DISSERVICE IF WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT.

SO WE WILL LINK IT AND BASE IT UPON THESE FOUNDATION ITEMS AND WE'LL LOOK AT WORKFLOW AND DELIVERABLES AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS IMPORTANT WORK AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DISCUSSION ON THESE TWO KEY ELEMENTS OF GROWTH FRAMEWORK AND I'VE TALKED TO THE CHAIRMAN AND WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON THE CONSERVATION AND PRESERVATION AS A FOUNDATION FOR THE FRAMEWORK AND THEN LOOK AT AREAS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER ACTIVITY WE USE THE WORD GROWTH LOOSELY MAYBE IT BECOMES SOMETHING DIFFERENT AS WE MOVE ALONG BUT WHERE DO WE WANT TO INVEST? WHERE DO WE WANT TO SEE ACTIVITY IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHEN WE SHARE THE MAP YOU MIGHT HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND SOME OF IT IS RELATIVELY INTUITIVE AS I THINK YOU WOULD IDENTIFY SOME OF THE CENTERS THE SAME WAY THAT THEY ARE ON THE MAP AND THEN DISTRICT ID IS A REMINDER THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY WE WORK TO DRAFT THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT AND PLAN WHICH WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER AND THAT WAS ADOPTED THE DISTRICTS IN THE AREA OF THE OLD PORT ROYAL GOLF COURSE IT INCLUDES PORT ROYAL PLAZA NORTHRIDGE SEA TURTLE AIRPORT AND AND AND THE GREATER SURROUNDS ALL THE WAY UP TO MITCHELL WILL AND WE'LL TALK VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT THE MID ISLAND WE WILL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE DEFINITION AND BOUNDARIES FOR SEVEN ADDITIONAL DISTRICTS TO COMPLETE THE DISTRICT PLANNING THAT WILL BE STITCHED TOGETHER INTO THIS ISLAND WIDE MASTER PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.

YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE HERE? WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PRESSURES AND THERE'S THEY COME GO THERE IN CYCLES WHETHER IT'S THE ECONOMY, WHETHER IT'S GROWTH.

WE'VE SHORT TERM RENTAL PRESSURES HERE LATELY COVID CHANGED A LOT TRAVEL PATTERNS AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NEW PRESSURES AND CHANGES MOVE FAST AND POLICY SOMETIMES MOVES AT A DIFFERENT PACE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO PUT A STAKE IN THE GROUND AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO MAKE INFORMED INCISION DECISIONS ON HOW WE WANT TO SEE OUR COMMUNITY IN FUTURE AND IT'S TIME TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO BE IN OUR POLICY AND OUR ACTIONS AND OUR INVESTMENT AGAIN VERY FROM MY STANDPOINT, MY TEAM STANDPOINT THAT WE LOOK AT THIS BLUEPRINT BUT FIRST TO FOCUS ON THE CONSERVATION AND PROTECTION WE HAVE NATURAL RESOURCES. WE HAVE WONDERFUL HISTORIC RESOURCES AND WE WANT MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT AND CONSERVE THOSE RESOURCES AND THEN SEE WHERE THE INVESTMENT CAN BE MADE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RELEVANT, THAT WE EVOLVE AND BECOME WORLD WORLD CLASS IN EVERY MANNER GOING FORWARD. AND THEN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T COMPLETELY LOSE OUR IDENTITY IN THIS PROCESS. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE GROUNDED IN WHO WE ARE AND THEN USE THAT AS A FOUNDATION AND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN BECOME. I ALWAYS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU START THEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE PATTERNS YOU KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING. SO AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING YOU'RE JUST WANDERING AROUND SO WE WILL GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS BUT BASED ON THOSE AND THOSE FOUNDATION BITS AND THEN THE ASPIRATIONAL SIDE OF WHERE WE WANT TO BECOME AS A MATCH WE'RE GOING TO BUILD

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WE HAVE AS PART OF THIS PROCESS WE'LL TALK ABOUT HAVING A FOCUSED CHARRETTE WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH EACH OF THE DISTRICTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND EXPECTATION AND AND AND THINKING WITHIN EACH ONE OF THOSE SUB AREAS AND THEN WE WILL DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS JUST LIKE WE DID IN THE MIDDLE MID ISLAND DISTRICT PLAN TO LOOK AT HOW WE ADDRESS ISSUES WITHIN EACH DISTRICT AND THEN ACROSS THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WILL SET THE FOUNDATION FOR WHAT I HOPE IS ONE FINAL OVERHAUL PHASE OF THE ALAMO. YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PHASE THREE IN A FEW MINUTES BUT WE HAVE A PHASE FOUR THAT IS CRANKING ALONG AND WE HOPE TO DELIVER SOON AND A AND WHAT I'M CALLING PHASE FIVE IS THE LAST STEP HERE WHICH IS A BRAND I WOULD SAY A BRAND NEW CODE THAT BUILDS ON SOME OF THE STRENGTHS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CURRENT POLICY BUT MODERNIZES IT AND IS SET CLEARLY TO A EXCELLENT EXPECTATIONS AND AND WHAT WHAT COUNSEL IN THE COMMUNITY EXPECT AGAIN PLAN FOUNDATIONS I COVERED A COUPLE OF THESE BUT WE HAVE SOME RECENT THE FINDING HOME THE MIDDLE IN DISTRICT WE HAD THE BEACH MANAGEMENT PLAN WE HAVE A CORRIDORS PLAN THAT WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT THE SYSTEMS WILL TALK ABOUT SEGMENTS. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DOCUMENTS THAT WILL SERVE AS FOUNDATIONS AND TO COME AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT A INDEPENDENT EFFORT WITHOUT THE BASIS OF FOUNDATION OF THOSE KEY ITEMS. WE ALSO HAVE THE CONDITIONS AND TRENDS THAT WE STARTED A WHILE AGO AND WE WILL INTEGRATE THE DELIVERABLES THAT WE'RE RECEIVING ON SOME KEY INFORMATION AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN A SECOND INTO THE END OF THIS WORK AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THE DISTRICT PLANNING AND THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK YOU KNOW THE VISION WE WE HAVE THE VISION DISCUSSION QUITE A BIT BUT REALLY JUST TRYING TO DEFINE THE NEXT CHAPTER THROUGH ENGAGEMENT AND THE KNOW THERE'S CAPACITY SIDE MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN COME WHO BECOME WHO WE WANT TO BECOME BASED ON THE CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS AND FOCUS ON OPPORTUNITIES BUT WHO DO WE WANT TO BE WHO DO WE WANT TO ATTRACT? WHO DO WE WANT TO FOCUS INVESTMENTS ON AND THAT WILL OUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD PHYSICAL DIRECTION WHEN YOU DO WHEN YOU DO THESE DISTRICT PLANS, YOU KNOW THAT'S A KEY CONSIDERATION. WHERE IS THE PUBLIC GOING TO INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE? WHERE IS THE PUBLIC GOING TO INVEST IN PROTECTION? AND THEN THAT WILL DRIVE ALSO WHERE THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS GOING TO BE DRIVING INVESTMENT AS WELL WILL INCLUDE EVERYONE THAT ARE UP FOR US TODAY. I SEE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE PUTTING ON JACKETS. WOULD YOU ADJUST THE TEMPERATURE JUST A TAD? THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. THEY MENTIONED WILL ALSO INCLUDE THOSE KEY DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE RECOMMEND FROM POLICY IS ACHIEVABLE AND BASED ON THAT ON THOSE DATA POINTS AND THEN CLEAR NEXT STEPS WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OUTCOMES OF THIS ARE TRANSLATE INTO CODE CHANGES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY AMBIGUITY ON WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE AND AND AND THE OUTCOMES AND THEN HOW TO DELIVER THOSE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND INVESTMENT STRATEGIES GOING FORWARD I'M GOING TO CONDITIONS AND TRENDS ASSESSMENT JUST AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL A COUPLE OF KEY KEY BUT AGAIN WE STARTED THIS A WHILE AGO AND TALKED ABOUT TOPIC CLUSTERS FOR CONDITIONS AND TRENDS AND YOU CAN SEE THEM LISTED ON ON THE BOARD HERE WE'LL HAVE DELIVERABLES ON DATA POINTS AND TRENDS FOR ALL OF THESE AND WE ALSO TALK ABOUT HAVING A FOUNDATION WILL BE ABLE TO TRACK THIS INFORMATION OVER TIME. A COUPLE OF KEY ONES YOU KNOW ISLAND POPULATION YOU CAN SEE POPULATION GROWTH SINCE 1960 AND FORECAST TO 2030.

YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH RATE YOU CAN ALSO USE ALSO SEE THE COMPARATIVE FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY FROM 2010 TO 20 21.2 ON ISLAND IN THAT TEN YEAR PERIOD AND 20% POPULATION INCREASE FOR COUNTY AND YEAH IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT WE'RE PART OF A REGIONAL SYSTEM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CAPACITY WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION IMPACT IN NATURAL RESOURCES TO SEE THE GROWTH RATE FOR THE REGION BECAUSE THAT ALSO INCLUDES WORKFORCE AS WELL AND ON THE

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YOU CAN SEE HOUSING VALUE AND HOW IT'S BEEN IMPACTED THROUGH RECESSION AND THEN HERE RECENTLY WITH THE COVID THE COVID CRISIS AND AVERAGE HOME VALUES YOU CAN SEE THEY'VE GONE UP A LOT OF THAT WAS MIGRATION FROM NORTHEAST MIDWEST BUT ALSO I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT INCLUDES THE TRANSITION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS ALSO DRIVING UP HOME PRICES ACROSS OUR AREA SUPPLY AS SUPPLY HAS BEEN AN ISSUE AND IT'S DRIVING UP PRICES. ALL RIGHT.

I WAS ONLY GOING TO COVER CONDITIONS TRENDS AGAIN AT A HIGH LEVEL BUT ALL THOSE DATA POINTS TOPICS AND CLUSTERS BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE MOVE AS WE MOVE ALONG.

SO WE LOOK AT WORKFLOW AND DELIVERABLES. YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN IN INITIATION OF PRE-PLANNING PHASE, WE'VE BEEN IN DISCOVERY AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT FRAMEWORK IN DISTRICT PLANNING THE STAKEHOLDER TESTING AND OUTREACH WE STARTED WITH MARYLAND DISTRICT BUT THAT WILL CONTINUE GO AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK AND DISTRICT PLANNING, GET THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN AGAIN INTEGRATION OF THE PLANS AND THEN INTO OUR CODES AND THEN THE TO BRING FORWARD POLICY AND SYSTEMS TO FINALIZE THE WORK AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ALONG WAY BUT GROWTH FRAMEWORK AND DISTRICT PLANNING I JUST COVERED THESE KEY ELEMENTS OF THE PROCESS. WE WILL HAVE THIS ENGAGEMENT TESTING AND OUTREACH AND ULTIMATELY RESULT IN POLICIES AND SYSTEMS TO CHANGE OUR CODE , TO CHANGE OPERATIONS, TO CHANGE INVESTMENT AND FUNDING CONSIDERATIONS RIDERSHIP AND AND WE'LL COVER ALL OF THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD YOU CAN SEE THE IN IN THIS SLIDE THAT ONE KEY OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE AN UPDATED LAND USE ELEMENT IN OUR COMP PLAN AND IT'S BEEN THIS WAY SINCE I SINCE I CAME HERE EVEN BEFORE THE LAND USE ELEMENT FOR HILTON ISLAND PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LACKED A COUPLE OF KEY ITEMS ONE IT'S NEVER REALLY HAD A FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS ALWAYS MATCHED TO THE ZONING MAP SO IT WASN'T REALLY FORWARD THINKING. THE EXPECTATION FROM COUNCILS AT THAT TIME WAS THE ZONING DEFINED WHAT WHAT WHAT THE LAND USES SHOULD BE AND SO IT WAS VERY RIGID.

IT DID NOT ALLOW A LOT OF THINKING ABOUT GROWTH AND INVESTMENT IN TRANSITION AND SO ONE KEY ELEMENT OF THIS IS TO HAVE A FUTURE USE MAP AND WE AND WE DRAFTED ONE FOR MID ISLAND DISTRICT BUT A FUTURE USE MAP FOR THE ENTIRE ISLAND THAT HELPS POLICY DECISIONS HELPS DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS DECISIONS ON WHERE THE EXPECTED CONSERVATION ARE, WHERE THE EXPECTED TRANSITION IN AREAS ARE AND WHERE THOSE EXPECTED INVESTMENT AREAS ARE.

AND SO THAT'S A REALLY KEY COMPONENT. AND AS PART OF THIS PROCESS AND OUTCOME, A FUTURE LAND USE MAP WILL ADDED TO A IMPROVED LAND USE ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT WILL SET THE FOUNDATION FOR ANY TYPE REZONINGS AND ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED SUBSEQUENT TO THAT. SO A FUTURE USE MAP WE WILL HAVE THE WHAT HOPE ARE THE FINAL WHOLESALE LARGE ALAMO AMENDMENTS PHASE FIVE FINAL OR FINAL PHASE I WANT TO CALL IT THEY'LL COME THEY'LL COME OUT AND THEN ANY ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS I MEAN THEY COULD BE FUNDING STRATEGIES TIF DISTRICTS, OTHER THINGS FOR THE PUBLIC SIDE AND EXCUSE ME FOR JUST A SECOND ARE YOU MAKING A DISTINCTION A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND A MASTER PLAN WHILE THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE DEFINE AND LIKE WE DID FOR MID ISLAND

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THESE OTHER PRESERVATION AREAS AND SO I'LL PLACE TYPES THERE PRINCIPLES THAT FOR THOSE LOOKING FOR THOSE PLACE TYPES AND THEN DETAILED DISTRICT PLANNING LIKE THE OUTCOMES FOR MID ISLAND DISTRICT WE'LL HAVE VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE FUTURE LAND USE THE INVESTMENT AND AND POLICY AND OPERATIONS THAT THAT WE WOULD FALL INTO OUR INTO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS HERE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY AGAIN IS ALSO KEY WE TALKED ABOUT ALAMO CHANGES AND THEN IMPACTS AS WE LOOK AT PUBLIC THROUGH OUR CFP WE KNOW THERE'S OTHER KEY ISSUES THAT WILL IDENTIFY THROUGH THE CONDITIONS AND TRENDS.

THE CORRIDORS PROJECT SHORT TERM RENTAL WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR FIRST REPORT FROM GLOBAL S ON THE 15TH WHICH IS JUST COMING UP HERE ON SATURDAY I THINK.

AND SO AT YOUR NEXT MEETING WILL PROVIDE SOME DATA AND SOME MAPPING TO SHOW YOU WHERE SHORT TERM RENTALS HAVE COME IN FOR THEIR ARE LOCATED ON THE ISLAND.

GIVE YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION THERE AND AGAIN I WAS COME BACK TO THIS THIS MASTER IS REALLY A GUIDE TO PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INVESTMENT. ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE TWO KEY ELEMENTS? IF YOU WANT TO HOLD OFF THAT'S FINE.

BUT THE NEXT TWO BITS THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AND THEN FOR THE DISTRICT PLANNING MORE DETAILS. MICHELLE I DID HAVE A HISTORY I GUESS MORE OF A COMMENT THAN ANYTHING ELSE YOU'RE GIVING US AN OVERVIEW, AN INTRODUCTION.

WE'RE NOT INTO THE WEEDS AT ALL YET ABOUT ALL OF THIS AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT NOT ONLY THE COUNCIL IT BUT THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS IT REGULARLY MAKING DECISIONS ON THIS TODAY IS MY POINT WE'RE JUST DOING AN INTRODUCTION AND I THINK IT'S VERY USEFUL AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. YES, SIR. IT IS A GREAT POINT.

YEAH. AS I MENTIONED, I'M INTRODUCING THIS IS ONE OF OUR INITIAL DISCUSSIONS ON THE ON THE LARGER SCALE GROWTH FRAMEWORK AND DISTRICT PLANNING PROCESS AND PROJECT. AND MY REQUEST TO THE COMMITTEE IS ARE WE ON THE RIGHT HAVE WE HAVE WE FRAMED AND FRAMED THE FRAMEWORK CORRECTLY WITH THE THE THREE THINGS ON THE ON THE PAGE HERE ARE WE ARE WE CORRECT IN BUILDING THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK BASED ON THE CONSERVATION OR PRESERVATION AREAS AND THOSE THINGS THAT WANT TO PROTECT LOOK AT THE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE THERE'S ALREADY ACTIVITY AND WE WANT TO LOOK AT INVESTMENT AND ENHANCEMENTS TO THOSE AREAS FOR INVESTMENT AND AND AGAIN I'M USING THE WORD GROWTH LOOSELY BUT FOR INVESTMENT AND THEN THE EDGE CONDITIONS WHICH ARE ALONG THE CORE AND ALONG THE CORRIDORS ALONG OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE AREAS AND ALSO SERVE AS THE EDGE BETWEEN THESE PROTECTED AREAS AND THE INVESTMENT AREAS THERE IS THERE IS A TRANSITION IN THERE AND WE HAVE TO DEFINE THE EDGE AND HOW THAT AND THE SENSITIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN INVESTMENT AND CONSERVATION AREAS. SO YES SIR AND I JUST ADD A POINT TO THAT. WELL YES, THANKS. FOLLOWING UP ON THAT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE. THE LANGUAGE THAT I'M NOT HEARING AND THAT I WILL BE WATCHING CAREFULLY TO MAKE SURE IT IS THE TOP CONSIDERATION AND ALL OF THAT IS RESIDENTIAL.

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I'M GLAD THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT FUTURE LAND USE MAP. I THINK THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.

THAT'S WHAT I'M USED TO SEEING IN CURRENT PLANS AS WELL. BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS AS WE MOVE INTO DISTRICT PLANNING WHICH ARE THE SLIDES AND I KNOW THEY'RE COMING NEXT AND IN THE PUBLIC IS ANXIOUS TO SEE THOSE AS WELL BUT BECAUSE HAVE HAD AN ACTIVE DELEGATION LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FOR YEARS AND YEARS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME SORT OF DISTRICT PLANNING RECOGNIZING HISTORIC GULLAH NEIGHBORHOODS I THINK THAT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR THAT'S MISSING AS BEING AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT INCLUDED AS PART OF THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK. I KNOW WE'VE GOT PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS BUT I THINK THAT WE ALSO OUGHT TO SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT THE HISTORIC GULLAH NEIGHBORHOODS AND FORGET THOSE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE INTO NEXT PHASE WHICH IS LOOKING AT DISTRICTS. YEAH, GREAT GREAT POINT AGAIN I'VE HEARD THE THE COMMENT ABOUT GROWTH BEFORE AND DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR YOUR COMMENT AND AND SO THAT AGAIN I THINK WE'LL WE'LL FIGURE OUT THAT THE TERM AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND THEN THE THE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CERTAINLY INTEGRAL TO THE DISTRICT PLANNING AND AS TALK ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES WE'VE MADE SURE NOT TO BREAK UP ANY HISTORIC AS WE LOOKED AT THE ASSESSMENT. SO LET ME JUST PIGGYBACK WHAT MR. GRAYSON SAID ABOUT GROWTH.

I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION DOES A COMMUNITY HAVE TO GROW IN POPULATION AND IN IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN ITSELF? AND I THINK WE IN THE COMMUNITY NEED TO HAVE AN ANSWER THERE IN IT ALSO JUST LIKE TOO WHEN WE WERE TALKING THE NEIGHBORHOODS AGAIN THAT MANY THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE DEVELOPED OVER YEARS AND THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT AS IT'S OCCURRED TO THE MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME INTO TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE GROWTH OF THE ISLAND AND BE PROTECTED AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL . AND AS LONG AS I'M TALKING I'M NOT AS COMFORTABLE WITH REQUESTING FROM YOU THAT WE TAKE OUT NOW I THINK THERE IS AS DAVID MENTIONED THE GROW WE DO HAVE TO GROW IT'S MATTER IN TERMS OF HOW WE GROW AND WHERE WE GROW AND WHAT THE GROWTH TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR ISLAND WE STOP BECOMING YOU KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO BE AND PART OF THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME GROWTH GOOD.

WELL, WE'LL CAPTURE AGAIN ALL THE COMMENTS AND I'M AGAIN I'M COMMITTED TO HAVING THE CONVERSATION HERE AT A HIGH LEVEL WITH YOU ALL AND WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT TOGETHER.

I'M EXCITED THE COMMENTS ALREADY AND AND SO IF I IF IT'S OKAY I'LL MOVE START TO MOVE FORWARD BUT YEAH THOSE ARE THE THREE KEY ELEMENTS OF THIS FRAMEWORK THE CONSERVATION PROTECTION AREAS, THE INVESTMENT ACTIVITY AREAS AND THEN THE EDGE CONDITIONS THE TRANSITION BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND THEN THOSE AROUND THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE CORRIDORS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE WHERE THE EDGE CONDITION IMPORTANT TO US.

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OKAY. A FRAMEWORK MAP WHY I DIDN'T TAKE IT OUT ON THE SPEAKER JUST I GET IT. SO AGAIN AT A HIGH LEVEL YOU CAN SEE IN THE LEGEND THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED OCEAN CREEKS AND SOUNDS OPEN SPACE PARKS AND PRESERVES NATURAL AND CONSERVATION AREAS BEACH AND THEN WE LOOK AT HIGH GROUND ON IMPERVIOUS AREAS AND THAT PROVIDES WHAT I WOULD CALL THE SOFT BACKGROUND THE GREEN WE'VE WE'VE INCLUDED THE SAND COLOR FOR THE BEACH. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HILTON AN ISLAND FROM THIS LAYER, THIS ENVIRONMENTAL LAYER, THIS CONSERVED LAYER, IT PROVIDES A BACKDROP OF THOSE AREAS AND EDGES THAT ARE IMPORTANT FROM FROM THAT STANDPOINT. AND SO I THINK THAT THE FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENT AND WE MAY FIND THAT THAT THAT LAYER GROWS A LITTLE BIT OVER OVER TIME AS WE GET INTO THE DETAILED DISTRICT PLANNING AND WANT TO PROTECT AND CONSERVE SOME OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE THAT WOULD BE ADDED HERE. AND THEN IF WE GO TO THE THE NEXT LEVEL THE THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT AREAS SO MAYBE HEY MAYBE WE FIND A COMPROMISE GROWTH MANAGEMENT AREAS WHERE WE LOOK AT PRIMARY AND SECONDARY CENTERS AND I'M NOT AGAIN I'M NOT TIED TO THE SPECIFIC TERMINAL BUT FOR DISCUSSION AT TODAY'S MEETING LOOKING AT THESE AREAS AGAIN INVESTMENT ACTIVITY AREAS AND IF YOU I I MENTIONED TO MY TEAM IF GAVE YOU THE DIRECTION TO IDENTIFY WHERE YOU THINK GROWTH OR INVESTMENT AREAS ARE OR SHOULD BE ON THE ISLAND AND THEY ALL TO TEN STAFF AND THEY ALL WENT INTO A ROOM INDIVIDUALLY AND MY GUESS IS THEY WOULD COME UP WITH SOME SOMETHING CLOSE TO THIS AND I THINK MOST OF THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM MIGHT UP IN A SIMILAR SPOT BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PRIMARY CENTERS AND WE GO LEFT TO RIGHT WE'VE GOT THE AREA AROUND HARBOR TOWN I THINK THAT'S AN ACTIVITIES CENTER. I KNOW IT'S WITHIN SEA PINES BUT IT IS AN ACTIVITY CENTER BE REALLY ACTIVE WEEK I'M SURE BUT BUT PRIMARY CENTERS HAVE HARBOR TOWN WE HAVE THE SEA PINES CIRCLE AREA AND WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EDGE AND TRANSITION IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO STRETCH PALMETTO BAY BUT ANYWAY SEA PINES CIRCLE AREA AND THEN BELOW THAT THE ALLEGHENY THE CALLING THE AREA MOVING TO THE WE HAVE THE SHELTER COVE , THE TOWN CENTER, THE THAT AREA AND THEN WE HAVE THE AREA THAT WE DEFINED IN MID ISLAND AS A CENTER IN THE MID ISLAND PLAN AS A CENTER AND AGAIN THAT'S KIND OF FOCUSED THE INTERSECTION OF MATHEWS AND WILLIAM PARKWAY WITH RIDGE SEA TURTLE PORT ROYAL, THE PARK THE SECONDARY CENTERS AGAIN A LITTLE MAYBE A LITTLE LESS EMPHASIS ON SMALLER THE ACTIVITY SHOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT LEFT OR RIGHT. WE'VE GOT THE SOUTH BEACH AREA. WE'VE GOT THE BELOW THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY, PALMETTO BAY MARINA. WE'VE GOT THE AREA ON MAIN STREET AND THEN WE'VE GOT AN AREA UP ON THE NORTH END WHICH HAS A CLUSTER OF RESTAURANTS AND SOME OTHER ACTIVITY ANOTHER RESTAURANT THAT'S BEING BUILT TODAY.

SO AT A HIGH LEVEL EARLY DRAFT THIS IS THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS INVESTMENT OR ACTIVITY AREAS. SO RATHER THAN CONSERVED THESE ARE AREAS THAT WE SHOULD PROVIDE SOME CONSIDERATION OF WHAT THINK THEY SHOULD BE AND HOW THEY SHOULD EVOLVE, HOW WE SHOULD INVEST IF IF AT ALL GOING FORWARD IN THESE KEY AREAS.

AND THEN AS I MENTIONED THE WHAT WE DON'T HAVE ON HERE IS A TRANSITION EDGE AS THEY GO AWAY FROM THE ACTIVITY CENTER. BUT HOW DO THEY TRANSITION IN AND WHAT'S THE INTERFACE BETWEEN THOSE AREAS AND THE CONSERVATION AREAS AS WE MOVE AHEAD? SHAWN YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPAND ON THIS AT THIS TIME BUT I THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE AN ALLOWANCE AS WE LOOK AT THIS THAT THERE MAY BE AN ACTIVITY CENTER THAT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY SOMEWHERE ON THE ISLAND. YES, SIR. THIS IS AGAIN THIS IS OUR TEAM'S INITIAL DRAFT INCLUDING STAFF AND SOME SOME CONSULTANTS WE ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE MODIFICATIONS TO THIS. THERE MAY BE TERTIARY OR MAYBE DIFFERENT STYLE, MAYBE BEACH VILLAGES. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW BUT AT THIS POINT IT'S JUST SOMETHING

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ABSOLUTELY. IT WAS BASED ON THE THINKING TODAY YOU WERE TO IDENTIFY AND AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD TALKING ABOUT INVESTMENT, I THINK IT SHOULD BE FOR DISCUSSION AND HOW TO MODIFY IT IF I COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO PICK UP ON THAT TOO I WOULD SAY EXISTING AND I REFER TO THEM AS COMMERCIAL NODES IF IF YOU WILL YOU'RE CALLING ON PRIMARY CENTERS AND SECONDARY CENTERS CENTER OF THE LOT? YOU KNOW, TO ME THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL NODE ACTIVITIES AND THAT'S WHERE WE OUGHT TO DIRECT CERTAIN KINDS ACTIVITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONSIDERATIONS SEPARATE FROM THE AREAS TO CONSERVE AND PROTECT INCLUDING ALL KIND OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THEN THE FINAL THING THAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT THIS MAP IS WHEN I LOOK AT THE WIDE AREA, THANK YOU FOR THE YELLOW FOR THE SAND. I APPRECIATE THAT IT SAYS HIGH GROUND OR IMPERVIOUS AREAS AND I'M GOING WELL IT'S A LOT OF HIGH GROUND ALL OVER THE ISLAND BUT I THINK THAT WHAT THAT IS TRYING TO REFLECT SOME OF IT IS HIGHER GROUND NOT NOT VERY HIGHER THAN AN IMPERVIOUS AREA. SO CUT MY HEAD A LITTLE BIT GOING LIKE A LOT OF THAT OF APPEARED ESE SO MAYBE IT'S AREA THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED I DON'T KNOW IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A KIND OF A TOO MUCH OF A CONGLOMERATION OF DIFFERENT KIND OF AREAS TO MAKE IT MAYBE . THE INTENT HERE IS MOSTLY TO SHOW THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL DAMAGE OR CURRENT HIGH ACTIVITY NODES AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF THAT.

THAT'S MY SENSE YEAH I THINK IT REALLY DOES HAVE TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXISTING CONDITIONS OR WHERE WE THINK THESE AREAS MAYBE JUSTIFY INVESTMENT AND WHERE WE WANT PEOPLE TO GATHER . SO IT MAY BE MORE THAN JUST COMMERCIAL, IT MAY BE A STATEMENT ABOUT WHERE WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY TOGETHER. THANK YOU. YEAH, GREAT.

GREAT POINT. AND I THINK AS WE GO FORWARD YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THIS IS SORT OF A FOUNDATIONAL BUT THE OUTCOME BE A VERY FUTURE FORWARD THINKING FRAMEWORK FOR INVESTMENT AND AND SO IF SOMEONE COMES IN SAYS I'VE GOT THIS PROJECT AND IT'S IN A IN AN AREA THAT IS IN THE CONSERVATION WE WE KNOW THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT INVESTMENT IN THAT IN THAT AREA. SO IF I COULD ADD ONE MORE THING TO WHAT MR. JAMES WAS SAYING AND THAT IS I'M CALLING ON THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUT AS IN THE MIDLAND DISTRICT I SEE AS PROBABLY MIXED USE. SO YOU COULD HAVE HOUSING THOSE AREAS AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES OFFICE ACTIVITIES BUT SOME SORT OF FOCUSED ACTIVITIES ALMOST CALL THEM YOU KNOW MINI TOWN AREAS YOU KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A TRUE DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE LOTS OF ACTIVITY AREAS IF YOU WILL. THAT'S A GOOD POINT AND I GUESS JUST FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION ,AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE'VE FOCUSED ON THIS MAP WITH THE SPECIFIC AREAS AND THAT'S A SECONDARY FOCUS ON THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IN OTHER AREAS AND THAT'S AND I THINK THAT IS AND MAYBE I'M NOT AT HIGH LEVEL THINGS MAYBE I LIKE THE DETAILS A LOT AND SO MAYBE I'M SEEING PAST IT BUT SECONDARY CONVERSATION THAT I KEEP HEARING BITS AND PIECES REFERRED TO THAT IS A BIGGER FOCUS FOR ME TO SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GLOSSING OVER THIS PIECE AND NOT WHAT REALLY MIGHT COME NEXT ON THAT SECOND LEVEL. SO GOING TO WITHHOLD JUDGMENT UNTIL I START HEARING A WHOLE BUNCH ABOUT THAT PIECE OF IT AND YEAH THAT'S A GREAT POINT AGAIN WELL THIS WILL BE THIS IS A START AND THEN WE WILL MORE DETAIL AS I MENTIONED THOSE TRANSITION AREAS FROM ACTIVITY CENTERS ARE ARE CRITICAL TO UNDERSTAND INTERPLAY BETWEEN THOSE INVESTMENT ACTIVITY CENTERS AND THE CONSERVATION AREAS WE'VE ALREADY TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS RIGHT? SO I PUT IT UP ON THE BOARD AND WE A REACTION WHICH WAS GREAT BUT WE CONTINUE TO REFINE THIS BASED ON THE INPUT FROM THE COMMITTEE, FROM COUNSEL, FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND CERTAINLY WHEN WE GET INTO THE DISTRICT PLANNING, YOU KNOW THE THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK IS A REALLY HIGH LEVEL. IT'S CALLED A 30,000 FEE.

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WELL WE'LL LOOK AT IF THERE IS CONFLICTING DATA AND TO SEE WHAT THE THE ROOT OF THE CONFLICT IS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD DATA THAT WE FEEL WE THAT WE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN AND MAKING THOSE DECISIONS SO BUT YES IT'S YOU KNOW WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE ALL DIFFERENT POINTS AND TRENDS AND AND GOING FORWARD I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY AS ONE TO MONITOR PROGRESS MOVEMENT MOVING AHEAD. SO I THINK I WOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BY SAYING THIS IS A NEW EXERCISE FOR ME BUT I LIKE FEEL OF IT.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE STARTED BIG PICTURE AND THEN OVER TIME WE'RE GOING TO BE NARROWING DOWN TO ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ALL HAVE ABOUT MANAGING GROWTH SO I'M PLEASED WITH THE INITIAL PRESENTATION. MOVE AHEAD AND LET'S HEAR THE COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE COMFORTABLE SEEING ME QUITE A BIT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS OF MY TEAM SO I THINK IT'S AN EXCITING PROCESS THAT WE'RE EMBARKING. IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE ISLAND AS A WHOLE HAS BEEN ASKING FOR AND I THINK THAT YOU'VE LAID IT OUT CLEARLY WITH REGARD TO THIS LEVEL AND IT AS I SAID BEFORE, DETAILS MATTER SO I'LL BE WATCHING THIS. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING AHEAD SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH DIRECTION ON THE ON THE FRAMEWORK AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE SHOWING THE DISTRICT GEOGRAPHY FOR WHAT I CALL THE EIGHT DISTRICTS ON THE ISLAND THAT WE STITCH TOGETHER FOR NOW A WIDE MASTER PLAN WE'VE COMPLETED NUMBER FOUR AND THE REASON ARE LABELED THIS WAY AS WE STARTED AT NUMBER ONE YOU CAN SEE IN THE LIGHT BLUE WE WENT CLOCKWISE SO THERE'S NO OTHER RHYME OR REASON THERE'S NO PRIORITY TO THIS EFFORT AT THIS POINT I'M JUST REPRESENTING ME HERE. BUT NUMBER ONE IS WHAT WE CALL THE MARSHES DISTRICT AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE MORE AND FOCUS IN ON A NUMBER TO SCALE CREEK COME THROUGH THE STONEY COMMUNITY NUMBER THREE WE'RE CALLING MAIN THE MAIN STREET DISTRICT.

NUMBER FOUR IS MID ISLAND WHICH IS THE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR NUMBER FIVE WERE CALLED CHAPLIN AND YOU CAN SEE REALLY SINGLETON THROUGH WESTERN ISH AREA BUT INCLUDES ALL THE BEACH COMMUNITIES IN THAT AREA. NUMBER SIX THOUGH THE LINK

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IS THERE ANY LAND THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS NOT AN APD AND NO I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND GOING BACK TO COUNCILMAN BRYSON'S COMMENT WHEN WE LOOKED HOW TO DEFINE THE GEOGRAPHIES, WE TRY TO LOOK AT COMMON THEMES AMONG THE DISTRICTS AND ALSO ANOTHER KEY POINT WAS TO MAKE SURE THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS WERE KEPT INTACT SO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SHOW IT ON THE SCREEN HERE BUT IN THIS AREA HERE THE SPANISH WELLS HISTORIC DISTRICT IS BIFURCATED BY THE CROSS ISLAND. AND SO WE HAD INITIALLY THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING THIS AREA ON THE SIDE OF THE CROSS ISLAND BE A DISTRICT. BUT AGAIN THE INTENT NOT TO BIFURCATE THOSE HISTORIC DISTRICT THE SORT NEIGHBORHOOD WAS WAS THE THINKING IN THIS SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BIG MAN PICTURE SORRY WHAT ARE YOU TAKING ABOUT THAT MY ON WHERE IN THE PROCESS WHEN YOU RUN THIS BY THE DELEGATES LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE YEAH WE HAVE IN OUR ENGAGEMENT AGAIN WANTING TO SHARE THIS WITH THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE INITIALLY WE'LL BRING THIS FORWARD TO PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS TASK FORCE FOR THEIR AND YOU KNOW TO SHARE THE SAME INFORMATION AND AS WE GET INTO DISTRICT PLANNING WE CAN WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE GROUPS TO HELP PROVIDE INFORMATION TO HELP DEFINE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME OUT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WE'LL GO THROUGH JUST A LITTLE MORE DETAIL MARSHES AND REMEMBER ALL 33 PAGES OF NOTES HERE BUT THE START NEIGHBORHOOD HERE JANESVILLE JARVIS OLD HOUSE CREEK SPANISH WELLS GARDNER WE'VE LINKED IT BECAUSE OF THE THE COMMON THEME OF THAT HAS MARSH EDGE WE'VE LINKED IT BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE THE HISTORIC COMMUNITIES WITHIN IT AND THE GEOGRAPHIES AND BELIEVE THAT WHILE THE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BE WITHIN THIS DISTRICT WILL NOT BE HOMOGENOUS THERE'LL BE SOME SOME DIFFERENCES THAT COMMON THEME OF THE MARSH EDGE AND THE PROTECTION THERE'S THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DEPTH IN A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE LINKED THESE THIS TOGETHER AND LABELED IT MARSHES DISTRICT SKULL CREEK AS AGAIN AS YOU COME ON THE ISLAND YOU'VE GOT JENKINS ISLAND ON THE TOP LEFT WHERE MILTON PARKWAY IS THE THE BORDER KIND OF ALONG THE EDGE AND THE PROPERTIES THAT THAT ABOUT IT BUT IT'S REALLY SQUIRE POPE THE GUM TREE AND THAT AREA MOST OF THIS PROPERTY IS IS ZONED EITHER OR R.M. FOR A LITTLE BIT OF ARMY IN THERE AND SO REALLY THE IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT A NEW A NEW TOWN OR VILLAGE CONCEPT IN PLANNING THEY TYPICALLY START WITH A SCHOOL AND SO YOU'VE GOT THE SCHOOL CLUSTERS IN THIS AREA AND A LOT RESIDENTIAL AROUND IT AND SO WE'LL CALL THIS THE SKULL CREEK DISTRICT AT THIS POINT BUT THAT'S THE THINKING IN THIS IN THIS DISTRICT WHICH WHICH BOUNDED TOGETHER FROM LAND USE AND ACTIVITY STANDPOINT. SO I NOTICE ON THIS AND OTHER THE LITTLE WHITE RECTANGLES SQUARES I'M ASSUMING THOSE ARE THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN

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YES. AND YOU'RE CORRECT. THOSE ARE THE STRUCTURES AND ABSOLUTELY THAT'LL BE PART OF THE ASSESSMENT AND ANALYSIS AND MEANWHILE THE FIRST DISTRICT THE MARSHES HIGHLIGHTED BY MARSH AREAS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MARSHES IN OTHER AREAS ON THE ISLAND AS WELL AND SO THERE MAY BE SOME CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT DISTRICT THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED IN OTHER DISTRICTS BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE MARSHES IN THEM. YEAH AND ONE ON ONE ON THIS SLIDE FOR ME IF YOU LOOKED AT A POTENTIAL MODIFICATION WOULD BE THAT THE HONEY HORN ADDITION WE KNOW HOW SENSITIVE IT IS INTO THE MARSHES DISTRICT AND THEN LEAVE THE REMAINING INTACT. I THINK IT'S IT BE DIFFICULT TO DEFINE A DISTRICT AND ALL THE MARSH AREAS BECAUSE WE WANT TO KIND OF KEEP THEM AND LOOK AT THEM AS THE INTERPLAY TOGETHER BUT WE WILL I THINK HOPEFULLY WE'RE OUT OF THE RIGHT GENERAL GEOGRAPHY AND WE CAN NUANCE FEW THINGS LIKE THEY MAY BE UNEVEN SHOULD BE PART OF MARSHES RATHER THAN JUST GO GREAT BUT YEAH I WON'T SUGGESTING ANY AT THIS POINT ANY SORT OF BOUNDARY CHANGES JUST A REFLECTION OF THE FACT THAT WHEN CALLED MARSHES IT DON'T MEAN THERE'S ONLY MARSHES THAT AREA THAT WHATEVER CONSIDERATIONS WE NEED TO ABOUT AREAS ADJACENT TO MARSHES THAT THAT CARRIES FORWARD AND OTHER DISTRICTS AS WELL JUST OF SIMPLY NUMBER THREE MAIN STREET WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE PARKWAY IN THE MAIN STREET AREA.

THIS REALLY TAKES LOOK AT MOST OF THE NONRESIDENTIAL AREA THAT'S BETWEEN THE MIDLAND DISTRICT AND SKULL CREEK. THERE IS SOME RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY HERE AND YOU KNOW WHEN I LOOK AT THE BALANCE OF THE OF THE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE GATED COMMUNITIES, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT'S IDENTIFIED AS AN INVESTMENT AREA OR ACTIVITY AREA.

BUT LOOKING AT MAIN STREET, KNOWING WE MAY BE CLOSE TO HAVING THE ACQUISITION WE KNOW THAT THERE CAN BE SOME INVESTMENT STRATEGIES THE LINKS TO THE RESIDENTIAL EDUCATION CENTER IN THE SKULL CREEK AND THEN THE MIDLAND DISTRICT WITH WHICH WE KNOW HAS SOME SIGNIFICANT PARK AMENITIES AND MIXED USE. BUT I HAVE A QUESTION JARVIS CREEK BELONGS IN THE MAIN STREET DISTRICT THE DROPS CREEK PARK I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, I'M NOT SUGGESTING ANOTHER PLACE TO PUT IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANOTHER PLACE TO PUT IT BUT IT SEEMS TO ME IT IS DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER CHARACTERISTICS OF THE MAIN STREET DISTRICT. WELL SAY IT'S A GOOD POINT AND AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT LIKE WE LOOKED AT LOOK BACK AT THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT IN A MIDDLE ISLAND THE CENTER HAS A LOT OF YEAH BUT THERE'S ALSO THE NORTHRIDGE CONSERVATION TRACTORS IN MID ISLAND DISTRICT AND ASHRIDGE OR ASHMORE TRACT AND SO THE JARVIS CREEK AREA COULD BE CONSERVATION AREA WITHIN THE BIGGER DISTRICT SO SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT AND ON THE FUTURE USE MAP I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE THAT IT'S PARKS AND REC AND CONSERVATION GOING FORWARD MID ISLAND I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A TON TIME I'M AN ISLAND BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT WHATEVER WE LEARN THROUGH THIS BIGGER EFFORT WILL WANT TO GO BACK AND CALIBRATE TAKE A LOOK AT MID ISLAND TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT OR ANY ANY NUANCE OR MODIFICATIONS I'LL. SHARE MY THOUGHTS LATER BUT I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH ALL THE DISTRICTS THROUGH THE SAME INFORMATION AND LENS AND NOT JUST PARKING THIS TO SAY IT'S COMPLETE BECAUSE WE DID IT. SHAWN MY INSTINCT TELLING ME THAT EACH ONE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DISTRICTS HAS A UNIQUE CHARACTER AND THAT WE OUGHT TO BE IDENTIFYING THOSE AND DEVELOPING THAT CHARACTER AS WE DEVELOP THE PLAN. SO YOU MENTIONED THE SCHOOL WHILE SCHOOLS HAVE KIDS MAYBE THAT AREA IS PLACE WHERE WE BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT FAMILIES NEED THIS ISLAND TO PROSPER. SO THAT'S A GREAT ONE OF THE THING AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE OTHER AND WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT BELONGS IN ONE OR THE OTHER AS WE GO THROUGH THE INPUT THE COMMUNITIES ALL ALONG THE WAY AND FROM OUR VARIOUS COMMISSIONS TASK FORCES WE MAY GET MORE INPUT TO SAY JARVIS CREEK BELONGS IN A DIFFERENT AREA OR SOMETHING ELSE BELONGS IN A DIFFERENT AREA.

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YES, ABSOLUTELY. CHAPLAIN, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE AREAS HERE A LOT OF THE STARS BEACH COMMUNITIES IN THIS SEGMENT ALSO A CHAPLAIN COMMUNITY PARK WHICH HAS SERVED AS A AMENITY AND GATHERING SPACE HERE IT'S FOUND BY THE MARSHES ON THE NORTH SIDE AND PARKWAY AND THE BEACH AND THE ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE AT THIS COMMUNITY GREAT CONTAINS SEVERAL GULLAH OWNED BUSINESSES ARE USED TO CONTAIN SO SEVERAL GULLAH OWNED BUSINESSES RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONLY THREE WE NEED TO LOOK AT RIGHT SIZING A RESIDENTIAL AREA IN THIS DISTRICT AND HAVE TO DRAW A LINE BETWEEN OR CONSIDERED DRAW A LINE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND RESORT FOCUS. WE KNOW THAT HAS A SEPARATE AREA FROM THE MIDDLE ISLAND WHICH IS NEARBY AND NEED A STRATEGIC BREAK. WE TALKING ABOUT THIS TRANSITION BETWEEN THE HIGHER ACTIVITY CENTERS AND THEN THE EDGE CONDITION AND SO LOOK AT THIS AS A BREAK FROM THAT ACTIVITY AREA YOU DEFINE WORK RIGHT SIZING RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT MIGHT REFER TO WELL I THINK WE WILL DEFINE THAT TOGETHER BUT AGAIN NOT TO JUMP TO THE ITEM BUT WE LOOK AT THE RELATIONSHIP SIZE OF STRUCTURES AND SIZE OF PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S CREATING THAT THAT BALANCE OR RATIO IT'S LOOKING AT PARKING CALIBRATION TO MAKE SURE THAT PARKING CAN BE ACCOMMODATED OR THAT PARKING HELPS TO BALANCE THE THE SIZE OF THE AND SO YOU KNOW WELL CLEARLY IDENTIFYING THAT THERE ARE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT'S FINE. AND SO IN THIS AREA WE JUST HAS TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IT IS ONE OF THE MOST SENSITIVE FOLLY ENVIRONMENTS THAT WE HAVE. AND SO PROTECTING AND CONSERVING THAT SHOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE FOCUS OF WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS VERY OKAY CAN AND THERE COMMENTS ON A COUPLE OF PARKWAY YOU KNOW THE COMMON THEME HERE IS THAT YOU'VE GOT THERE'S THERE'S NOT A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL IN THIS SEGMENT BECAUSE THE BALANCE OF THE LAND USES AND DEVELOPMENT ON EITHER SIDE OF WILLIAM PARKWAY FROM ROAD ALL THE WAY UP TO SHELTER COVE LANE WHERE THE LONG WALK THE CENTER ARE WITHIN THE GATED COMMUNITY SHIPYARD YARD YOU GOT SOME PALMETTO DUNES LYMINGTON AREA LONG COVE AND WEXFORD AND SO OTHER THAN YAKOV A COUPLE OF SMALL RESIDENTIAL SITES IT'S PRIMARILY NONRESIDENTIAL, IT'S OFFICE, IT'S COMMERCIAL, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT STRETCH YOU GET GOOD SERVICES, GOODS AND SERVICES AND SO THE COMMON HERE IS THE CORRIDOR IS TO UNDERSTAND THE EDGE CONDITION INTERPLAY BETWEEN TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR AND LAND USES AND LOOKING AT HOW THAT IS INTEGRATED INTO THE OVERALL PLAN THERE. SORRY ONE QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THE TERM PARKWAY HAVING LIVED AT THE FOOT OF THE PARKWAY I UNDERSTAND A PARKWAY CONCEPT BUT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WHAT WAS KNOWN AS BUSINESS TO SERVE THE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY GOES LONGER THAN LAND. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU CALL IT, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT DOES NOT STAMPED IN STONE RIGHT NOW ARE SET IN STONE STEP FOUR APPROVAL IS TO THINK ABOUT THE NAME BECAUSE WE WANT FOLKS WHO DON'T LIVE IN THIS AREA TO FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T LIVE ON THE PARKWAY. SURE. GOOD GOOD POINT.

AND NO PRIDE IN OWNERSHIP AND ANY OF THIS NAMING JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE LOOKED AT COMMON SO A COMMON THEME HERE AND OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS SEGMENT FOR US FORREST BEACH, YOU KNOW LOOKING AT THIS AREA IT'S PRETTY ECLECTIC. THERE'S THE ACTIVITY AROUND POLYGAMY. THERE'S THERE'S A MIX OF RESORTS AND RESIDENTIAL THAT THAT YOU CAN SMELL YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THIS AND ON THIS AREA AND SO YOU LOOK AT THE THE ACTIVITY AREA THAT'S PRIMARILY NON RESIDENTIAL AND THEN THE RESORT AND THEN YOU HAVE THE

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LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND THEN BRIDGE TO THE BEACH AGAIN THIS ONE WAS IT'S HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT STUDIES IN THE PAST THAT SERVED AS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR DISTRICT. BUT REALLY AS YOU LAND FROM THE CROSS ISLAND BRIDGE ON THE SOUTH AND YOU'VE GOT A BAY MARINA, YOU'VE GOT THE THE POPE OR THE PALMETTO BAY AND POPE OUT OUR ARROW ROAD CORRIDOR AND SEGMENT DOWN TO SEA PINES. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS AS YOU GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE SEGMENTS THAT WILL NEED TO BE EVALUATED AS WE GO THROUGH THE CORRIDORS PLAN AND THE SEGMENTS AND BRING THOSE FORWARD TO YOU HERE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WE'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CHARACTERISTICS WITHIN EACH ONE OF THOSE AREAS AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE PRIMARY PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AREA ALONG POINT COMFORT ROAD AND AND TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE ROUND OUT THE DISTRICTS I DON'T KNOW ABOUT BACK I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO GET TO BUCK ISLAND AS IT'S PART PART OF IT BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE FINAL AND FINAL DISTRICT AS IT ROUNDS THE EIGHT DISTRICTS TO COMPLETE FOR THIS EFFORT. LET ME KNOW WHEN THAT BOAT LEAVES.

YEAH, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOOD WEATHER TODAY. AND ANY COMMENTS YOU SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE PODIUM. I DO HAVE ONE SHINE THIS YEAR THIS BRIDGE TO THE BEACH AND THEN CLICK MARY AREAS OUR TRANSPORTATION ROAD TRAFFIC ISSUES AND SO I THINK THAT THIS MAY BE A FOCUS THAT STAFF NEEDS TO GRAPPLE WITH EARLY ON YOU KNOW WE HAVE SEA PINES CIRCLE WHICH IS BASICALLY A NARROWING OF A THROAT OF TRAFFIC AND THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR IS GOING TO DICTATE WHAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF POPULATION TYPES OF HOUSING SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE A IN ORDER TO KEEP THE SOUTH AND SOME KIND OF QUALITY OF LIFE THIS YEAR. THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD. ONE OF THE THING I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED CORRIDOR THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CORRIDOR STUDY AND THE PLANS THAT ARE BEING PREPARED NOW AND SO THOSE HAVE GOT TO THE DISTRICT PLANNING IN THAT PLAN GOT TO SOMEHOW TALK TO EACH OTHER.

YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. WHICH IS SOMEWHAT ALIGNED TO WHAT WAS GOING TO SAY WITH REGARD TO OUR PARKWAY. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CORRIDOR PLAN AND HOW IS HOW IT WILL BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE IT JUST THE POINT AND THE EMPHASIS OF WHY THIS IS ALSO IMPORTANT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN NOTICE BUT AS TO 78 OR PARKWAY HAS BEEN RESURFACED THERE'S AN EXPANSION OF ASPHALT CREATING MORE ROADWAY AND REDUCING THE EDGES THAT PROTECT THE ESTHETICS AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND SOME OF MAYBE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO REMEMBER AND AS YOU MENTIONED I TAUGHT MY CHILDREN GROWING UP AND TEACHING MY GRANDCHILDREN ALWAYS REMEMBER WHERE YOU CAME FROM, WORK HARD, MAKE IT BETTER ALWAYS REMEMBER WHERE YOU CAME FROM. AND I THINK THAT EVEN IN THESE MOST RECENT ACTIVITIES WITH RESURFACING AND OTHERS WE ARE SEEING A LOSS OF REMEMBERING WHERE WE'VE COME FROM. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THIS IS SO CRITICAL WHEN PEOPLE ASK ARE YOU MOVING FAST? WE'RE MOVING FAST TO KEEP MORE AND MORE OF THAT LOSS BECOMING REALITY AND UNCHANGEABLE FROM THE FUTURE.

SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT, SHAWN I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT ASPHALT HAD BEEN EXPANDED THAT ACCURATE AND

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BEFORE I GO NEXT UP SO THESE ARE THE DISTRICT THE DISTRICTS WE'VE DEFINED THEM.

ARE WE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH US AND WE'LL NUANCE AND WE CAN MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE BOUNDARIES AND NAMING AND BUT IN GENERAL THESE ARE WHAT WE WANT TO PACKAGE UP AND BRING THROUGH. OKAY. WELL, YES, I THINK THIS WAS A THOUGHTFUL PRESENTATION. YES. I'VE MADE ALL MY COMMENTS AND DO APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK. YES, I THINK IT EVEN FITS WITH THIS HEAT MAP SO TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. AND SO AGAIN WE'LL FINALIZE US BASED ON YOUR INPUT TODAY. AS I I MENTIONED THAT WE LABELED THEM WITHOUT PRIORITY.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE AREAS THAT HAVE THE HIGHER CONCENTRATION OF RESIDENTIAL AS AREAS OF FOCUS ON COUNCIL OR CHAIRMAN AIMS. WE'LL TAKE YOUR COMMENT INTO CONSIDERATION ABOUT THE CRITICAL NATURE OF THE BRIDGE TO THE BEACH DISTRICT AND THAT TRANSPORTATION PIECE ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO CORRIDOR INVESTMENT AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO ADVANCE THAT AS SOON AS WE CAN AND AGAIN, THE PLAN HERE IS TO GET DOWN TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF DETAIL AND TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY TO COME FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EACH DISTRICT. AND THEN AT THE END OF THIS IS INTEGRATING IT AND COMING FORWARD WITH AN ALAMO THAT WE CAN FINALLY BE PROUD OF AND UNDERSTAND THE EXPECTATION CLEARLY AND MOVE TO POSITIVE OUTCOMES SO I'M FINAL COMMENTS ON THIS AT THIS POINT I WOULD ASK I DON'T RECALL IN YOUR PRESENTATIONS IF YOU'VE GIVEN THAT TIMELINE FOR THIS PROCESS HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ,HOW QUICKLY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, IS IT GOING TO TAKE A YEAR? IS WE GONNA TAKE THREE MONTHS WHAT WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE. YEAH SO WE IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION I KNOW AND THAT'S MY JOB I THINK IN THE ALAMO PRESENTATION GOT A WE'VE GOT A TIMELINE.

YEP. THAT THE TIME TENTATIVE TIMELINE OR THE PRELIMINARY DRAFT TIMELINE IS TO BEGIN THE THE THE DISTRICT WORK HERE AND THEN WE WANT TO GET THIS PHASE FOR ALAMO THREE AND THEN FOR ALAMO STUFF OUR AMENDMENTS BEHIND US BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE WHERE THE REAL PRESSURE AND COMMUNITIES EXIST AND SO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING IS HAVE A CHARRETTE AND WHAT I'VE WHAT I PRESENTED HERE WHERE THE TEAM IN JUNE AND THEN WE WILL DEFINE WE WILL COME WITH SOME OF THE FOUNDATION PIECES AND THEN OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TEST THAT. SO IN JUNE AND THEN IT'LL BE THROUGH THE BALANCE OF SUMMER AND EARLY FALL BEFORE WE HAVE ANY OUTPUT FROM THE DISTRICT PLANS.

IT SOUNDS AMBITIOUS BUT I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO IT AND WE WANT TO USE THAT TO INFORM THAT LAST THAT PHASE FIVE THE ALAMO SITE I HAVE A COMMENT THERE JUST A NUMBER OF THE DATA POINTS THAT YOU'RE WAITING FOR WILL BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND I'VE MADE ALL MY OTHER COMMENTS AND AGAIN I'LL JUST SAY MAINTAINING A FOCUS ON WHAT IS IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE CONSERVING AND PROTECT WE'RE PROTECTING PERHAPS EVEN ROLLING BACK SOME OF THE UNWANTED ACTIVITY BUT TWO QUICK THINGS AND ONE QUESTION I'M LOOKING AT YOUR CRITICAL PATH RIGHT HERE WHICH WHICH I THINK THERE'S A LOT PROVIDED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION A WEEK OR TWO AGO AND IT SHOWS THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK IN DISTRICT PLAN INITIATIVE THE COURSE OF QUARTER ONE OF THIS YEAR THROUGH QUARTER ONE OF NEXT YEAR. SO A BROAD FRAMEWORK BUT AND SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THE FOCUS THE TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND NOT RAISING TRACK OF THOSE YOU VERY MUCH AND THEN THE LAST AS THE QUESTION YOU MENTIONED A CHARRETTE IN JUNE I'M FAMILIAR WITH WHAT A SHRED

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AT LEAST FORWARD THAT FRAMEWORK FOR CONSIDERATION THAT INCLUDES AND AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE EARLY PARTS OF THE DISCUSSION THEN WILL LEAD TO A A ROBUST ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY SO IT'S NOT HAVE A CHARRETTE AND THEN THERE ARE DISTRICT PLANS THAT IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FINE TUNED A FEW THINGS AND THEN SOME DEEPER THINKING COLLECTIVELY AS AS A GROUP TO TO HELP SHAPE THIS AS WE MOVE AHEAD SO IT WOULD REPRESENTATION FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE CHARETTE YES .

AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT AT 30% OF THE ISLAND THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE GATES THAT'S ALL THIS ACTIVITY IS REALLY CENTERING AROUND INCLUDES AND I KNOW I'M A DOG WITH A BONE BUT I WILL BE INCLUDES ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE GROWN THAT CAN'T BE DISCOUNTED JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PROTECTED BY A GATE I RECOGNIZE MR. ALFORD AND THE AUDIENCE STATE IS BUSY LIKE A STATE MR. ALFORD I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE YOU AS AN ALTERNATE DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD? OKAY THANK I'LL MAKE JUST A FINAL OBSERVATION THEN IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH A GROWTH FRAMEWORK CONVERSATION THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH THE DISTRICTS. THERE ARE TWO IMPORTANT WORDS TO ME IN THAT GROWTH FRAMEWORK ONE IS LEGACY SAY AND THE OTHER IS THE WORD GROWTH.

WHAT DO I MEAN BY LEGACY? I THINK THE MODERN ERA OF HILTON WAS FOUNDED ON TWO ITEMS ONE PRESERVATION OF LAND AND THE CREATION OF MEMORABLE PUBLIC SPACES A HARBOR TOWN AND ALSO TO SOME DEGREE SHELTER COVE . SO WHAT'S THE LEGACY GOING FORWARD AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE BUT I'LL SAY IT AGAIN I THINK IN 50 YEARS HILTON HEAD'S BRAND WILL HOPEFULLY BE DEFINED BY THE LAND IT CHOOSES TO PRESERVE AND THE PUBLIC SPACES THAT IT CREATES FOR THE BENEFIT OF ITS RESIDENTS. SO BASICALLY IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME THAT CHARLES FRAZIER ESTABLISHED IN 1956 5758 IN THE MASTER PLANNING OF HILL OF SEA PINES. SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS PRESERVATION OF OPEN SPACE AND THE CREATION OF PUBLIC FOR THE BENEFIT OF RESIDENTS AND ON THE GROWTH SIDE WE'VE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT DOES GROWTH MEAN TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT IS PART SEEING THAT INFORMATION THE WORD GROWTH TO ME IS SOMEWHAT TROUBLESOME I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO AND I LIKE THIS WORD IS EVOLVE SO WE REMAIN RELEVANT AND A VALUE TO RESIDENTS AND ART AND THE ECONOMY AND THAT WE ARE SUSTAINABLE.

SO IT'S INVESTING IN THE AREAS WHERE IT PAYS OFF. SO I DO THINK THAT THAT COMMUNITY HAS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE MEAN BY GROWTH. GROWTH HOW MUCH DO WE GROW IS GROWTH ALL OF THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTOOD BY COMMUNITY SO THAT WE DON'T GET MISCOMMUNICATION THAT'S ALL I'M I WANT TO TAKE THE ADVANTAGE OF THE ADVANTAGE OF LISTENING PUBLIC COMMENTS HERE BUT JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAVE I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON AT THIS TIME AND GO TO THE ALAMO BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE JUST A MOMENT TO EXCUSE MYSELF AND COME BACK AND IF OTHERS WANT TO DO THE SAME PLEASE LET ME TAKE A TWO MINUTE RECESS. THE CHAIR JUST TOOK A TEN MINUTE RECESS.

I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO NEXT SECTION BUT I THINK YOU CAN ASSUME THAT WE HAVE GIVEN

[6B. Consideration of Proposed Ordinance 2023-09 Amending Title 16 of the Municipal Code of the Town of Hilton Head Island, the Land Management Ordinance, to Remove Divisible Dwelling Units as an Accessory use and to Modify Multifamily and Single-Family Definitions]

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SHAWN GOOD MORNING AGAIN. SHAWN POLICIES TOWN MANAGER I WILL TRY TO GET YOU OUT OF HERE BEFORE THIS AFTERNOON AGAIN THANK YOU. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THIS THIS IS NOT A PLANNING COMMISSION TWICE AND RECEIVED A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THIS TO COUNCIL FOUR FOR CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE THREE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY THE DEFINITION OF SINGLE DEFINITION OF MULTIFAMILY AND THEN DIVISIBLE AND DWELLING UNITS AND WE'LL REFER TO THOSE ARE COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS LOCKOUT UNITS. I WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE ALAMO AMENDMENT SCHEDULE WE'VE COMPLETED PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO ALREADY WHERE THIS IS CURRENTLY PHASE THREE. THESE THREE AMENDMENTS AND THEN JUST AS IMPORTANTLY AS FOUR AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ARE PUSHING TO GET THE PHASE FOUR AMENDMENTS WHICH WILL DEAL WITH FOR A RATIO WHEN PARKING CALIBRATION AND SUBDIVISION AND HOW TO TREAT SITES HOW TO MAINTAIN SITES ALL PART OF THIS PHASE ELEMENT AND TO BRING THOSE FORWARD TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN MAY AND KNOWING THAT THERE'S A 30 DAY REQUIREMENT PUBLIC PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENT WE'RE PUSHING TO GET THAT SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADVERTISE LATE THIS MONTH AND SO WE'RE MOVING AS FAST AS WE CAN ON PHASE FOUR AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE HERE IN PERSON OR ARE WATCHING UNDERSTAND WE'RE MOVING THAT FORWARD AS FAST AS WE CAN AND THEN PHASE FIVE GETS INTO THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK AND THE OVERALL CODE REVIEW AND REWRITE AND OVERHAUL TO TO DELIVER SOMETHING TO THE COMMUNITY AGAIN WE'RE PROUD OF AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE TO BRING FORWARD ALAMO AMENDMENTS AND MULTIPLE EVER AGAIN BUT WE SHALL SEE SO THAT CHART THAT YOU JUST SAID THE ONE THAT I HAVE IS NOW OUTDATED IT'S ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE TO HAVE THAT ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE SOON. YES, MA'AM.

THANK THANK. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE ADOPTED ONES BUT THIS IS THE LIST OF ITEMS WE'RE IN PHASE ONE AND THEN PHASE TWO WHICH WAS ADOPTED JUST A SHORT TIME AGO. THIS WAS ITEM THAT WAS INCLUDED THERE.

HERE'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU FOR ACTION TODAY AS WE ADVANCE OUR DISCUSSION IN PHASE FOUR AGAIN THESE ARE THOSE KEY ITEMS. THERE'S NOT ONE AND THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE RIGHT NOW SOME RELATE TO ADMINISTRATIVE AND PROCEDURAL CHANGES AND HOW WE MOVE MOVE APPLICATION FORWARD.

BUT LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTIAL SITE STANDARDS CONNECTIVITY FOR AIR RATIO PARKING, OPEN SPACE OUT BACK ANGLES, LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS METHODOLOGY CURRENTLY IN OUR ALAMO, WE KNOW THE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AND BRINGING THAT FORWARD AS PART OF THIS PHASE FOR A AMENDMENT THERE ARE SIGNS STANDARD UPDATES AS IT RELATES TO FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS HOW SITES ARE CLEARED FOR SUBDIVISIONS IS USING STORMWATER PRACTICES TO ENSURE THAT THE ENTIRE SITES ARE CLEAR BUT ONLY AS YOU TAKE DOWN LOTS AND SO THAT'S INCLUDED CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO WE'VE GOT TIDY SITES DURING CONSTRUCTION AND THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPER AND APPLICANT ARE ARE BEING GOOD STEWARDS CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THE FOCUS ON STRENGTHENING THE TREE REGULATIONS YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPECIMEN AND SIGNIFICANT TREES AND PROTECTION OF STANDS OF TREES TREE PRESERVATION AND TREE MITIGATION ON HERE SO REALLY PLACING A HIGH VALUE ON HIGH VALUE TREES AND MAKING THAT WE GET THAT PROTECTION. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THIS OUT THAT THIS IS REALLY FOLLOWING ON THE HEELS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HERE IN PHASE ONE, THE PHASE THREE AND THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS YOU AND THEN ALAMO PHASE FIVE WON'T SPEND A TON OF TIME ON IT BUT IT'S EVERYTHING IT'S EVERYTHING. WE WILL LOOK AT ALL CHAPTERS SECTIONS AS WE LEARN FROM DISTRICT PLANNING WE WILL MAKE SURE TO CALIBRATE AND MODIFY THAT GOING GOING FORWARD. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FIVE PHASES? YES, MR. CHAIR, JUST ONE QUICK ONE QUICK. BUT ON BACK TO PHASE FOUR, IF YOU CAN GO TO THAT LIST OF STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS WHICH I'M ALL IN FAVOR

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BUT YES THE PLAN FOR THE FINAL OVERALL HAUL WILL INCLUDE THE RESULTS FROM A RESILIENCE PLAN AND THERE WAS SO MANY QUESTIONS ON THE PHASE PHASES I THINK IT WAS NO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TOO JUST THAT PHASE FOUR HAS A NUMBER OF CRITICAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE 30 DAY PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENT AND THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF STEPS THAT ARE THAT WE TAKE THAT ARE NOT REQUIREMENT AND THEREFORE AS THIS COUNCIL CONSIDERS THINGS MOVING FORWARD IT WOULD BE MY VERY REQUEST AS I'VE MADE SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY THAT WE SHORTEN THAT SPAN OF TIME THAT UNNECESSARY STEPS ONCE THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE REQUIRED STEPS BE BE REMOVED WE CAN ALL ATTEND THOSE AND HEAR AND MAKE COMMENTS AS NECESSARY IF THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S QUITE CONTROVERSIAL. BUT OTHERWISE WE TAKE IN A FEW EXTRA STEPS DELAYING THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL SUCH AS THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

OFTENTIMES WE HAVE A SMALL PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THAT AFFECT TRAFFIC AND NOT ENOUGH ANALYSIS HAD BEEN DONE PROPERLY OR KNOW WHAT WILL BECOME I GUESS MORE PROPER.

AND GIVEN THE WAY OUR DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING WE WOULD HAVE BETTER CONDITIONS FOR THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ACROSS THE ISLAND AND SO THAT IS A VERY, VERY STRONG REQUEST AGAIN THAT WE SHORTEN THAT TIME FRAME AND TAKE OUT UNNECESSARY STEPS AND ALSO I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE WHO WASN'T ABLE TO HEAR ME I DIDN'T REALIZE I WAS SPEAKING SOFTLY THIS MORNING AND THE MICROPHONE MAY NOT HAVE PICKED UP MY COMMENTS BUT TO MOVE FORWARD AND SO WHEN I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO THE ACTION THAT'S YOU AND THAT'S TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE THE CODE FOR THOSE THREE ITEMS DEFINITION OF MULTIFAMILY SINGLE FAMILY I MEAN LET ME INTERRUPT BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF US ARE VERY MUCH UP TO SPEED ON THIS.

DO WE NEED TO GO INTO ANY ON THIS? I DON'T WANT TO JUMP TOO FAR AHEAD BECAUSE OF THE AUDIENCE BUT I'M INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD TO TO THE EXTENT YOU'RE GOING TO ABBREVIATE YOUR COMMENTS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT .

I'M SURE WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER CODES OUR CODE CURRENTLY READS SINGLE FAMILY AS ANYTHING THAT'S THREE OR MORE UNITS ON A ON LOT WE'RE BRINGING THAT BACK IN LINE WITH WITH OTHER STANDARD CODES THAT ANYTHING THAT'S TWO OR MORE IS MULTIFAMILY AS SINGLE FAMILY MEANS ONE AND DEVELOP DIVISIBLE UNITS ARE ONLY ALLOWED IN A COUPLE OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS AND COLLECTING RESOURCE AND RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT AND THEY'VE APPLIED HISTORICALLY TO TIMESHARE DEVELOPMENTS PRIMARILY WHERE THE MODEL FOR DEVELOPMENT WAS TO HAVE A SEPARATE UNIT THAT COULD BE CLOSED OFF AND OCCUPIED BY A FAMILY MEMBER OR SOMEONE THAT WAS TRAVELING AND AND NOT RENTED OUT SAYING SINGULARLY THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN COUNTED IN OUR CODE ARE HALF UNITS AS THEY COME THROUGH FOR PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION HERE IS TO ELIMINATE THE VISIBLE DWELLING UNITS AND LOCKOUTS FROM OUR CODE ALTOGETHER THERE'S NO LONGER BE PROHIBITED IN OUR CODE IF YOU LIKE.

I DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE I THINK WE CAN UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN YOUR CREDIT STAFF REPORT. YEAH, MAYBE JUST TELL US ANY DIFFERENCES BECAUSE WE SHOULD THERE'S NO THERE'S NOTHING DIFFERENT IN THE STAFFER REPORT WE DID LOOK AT SOME ASSESSMENT AND PROPERTIES THAT WERE IMPACTED IT WAS ALL PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND THOSE PROPERTIES THAT COULD ADD ANOTHER UNIT BUT NOT THREE OR MORE AND AND IT BOILED TO ABOUT 50 PROPERTIES THAT WERE IMPACTED AND THEN AS IT RELATES TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS, WHEN YOU GO FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTI-FAMILY,

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WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY LOCK OUT UNITS BUT WE IT'S PROBABLY A FEW HUNDRED A LOT OF THE UNITS HAVE BEEN TRANSITIONED OVER, ELIMINATED LOCKOUTS IN THE PAST MANY YEARS. SO WE PROVIDED INFORMATION ON NON-CONFORMITY AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL BUT ARE BACK NOW TO THE QUESTION FORGETTING FOR TIME'S SAKE.

YEAH I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE A MOTION BUT THEY ALSO ANTICIPATE THAT THERE MAY BE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEN COME BACK IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE TO THEY ARE SEND IT ON TO FULL COUNCIL MY SECOND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE PART OF THE DAIS THIS TIME PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ON THE AGENDA YES PLEASE MORNING TIME TAIWAN FOR THE RECORD AND I UNDERSTAND AND WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD BUT I NEED TO PUT ON RECORD MY IS THE IMPACT OF THE NATIVE OWNER LAND OWNED PROPERTY AS ALWAYS HAS BEEN IN OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND I THINK A REAL AND A REAL CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN IN REGARDS TO COMPENSATE OF LOSS AND PROPERTY VALUES WHEN WE TAKE PERMITTED FROM CURRENT ALREADY OWNED PROPERTY OWNERS AND BASICALLY STRIP THAT USE FROM THEM WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO COMPENSATE PEOPLE FOR PERMITTED LAND LOSSES.

I NEED TO PUT ON THE RECORD AND IT DEFINITELY APPEARS AS THOUGH JUST BASED ON WHO ACTUALLY STILL OWNS OUR PROPERTY IT IS THE NATIVE GULLAH LAND OWNERS SO THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE ON THE RECORD AND ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE I ACTUALLY PUT IT ON ONLINE DURING THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AS WELL IS WILL THE SINGLE FAMILY DEFINITION HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE AREAS IS THAT ISLAND WIDE SO HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT AREAS INSIDE COMPOUNDS BECAUSE THEY ARE DEDICATED SINGLE FAMILY LOTS SO HOW WILL THAT NEW DEFINITION IMPACT THE CURRENT COVENANTS OF THOSE PADS ? SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS WHO OWN PROPERTY IN THE LADY WHO ARE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS WHO PUT HER MOTHER IN LAW SUITE. SO NOW THAT THEY PUT A MOTHER IN LAW SUITE OR A SINGLE DEEP DETACHED UNIT ON THAT LOT IS THE TOWN'S COVENANT IS THE TOWN'S ORDINANCE GOING TO SUPERSEDE THE PD'S COVENANTS? SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING A LOT OF PROPERTIES NON-CONFORMING IF THIS AMENDMENT IS ALLEN WAY OR IS THE PADS OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN'S ORDINANCES THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT THE PADS ARE NOT BEING AFFECTED BY THIS AND WHY JUST CERTAIN GROUPS OF COMMUNITIES BEING AFFECTED THANK YOU THANK YOU TY IS THERE ANYONE ELSE MR. HOGAN HOGAN DAVID I LIKE YOUR COMMENTS AND I APPLAUD THE AT THIS PRESENTATION BUT I THINK LIKE A LOT OF US I'M LEFT KIND OF SCRATCHING MY HEAD AND I'M SAYING NOW NOW WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE AND I ASSUME THAT WE HAVE THIS OVERLAY AND HOLD ME TO THIS BUT I WAS JUST INFORMED THAT THAT ROUGHLY 70% OF HILTON HEAD IF THAT'S THE CORRECT NUMBER IS ALREADY UNDER GATED COMMUNITIES AND AND COMMUNITIES ARE ALREADY LIVING UNDER A MASTER LAND PLAN AND THAT WAS DONE AS DAVID YOU AND I HAVE BEEN HERE 47 YEARS AND I ASSUME THAT WAS DONE OVER 40, 45 YEARS AGO AND IT SADDENS ME

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A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS WITH THIS MIGRATION INCREASE POPULATION AND TOURISM AND EVERYTHING ELSE . I THINK WHAT SADDENS ME THAT WE DIDN'T DO THE MASTER LAMB PLAN WHEN CHARLES FRAZIER WAS ALIVE AND WE WERE ALL HERE WE COULD HAVE DONE IT FOR THE OUTSIDE. THESE ARE GATED COMMUNITIES AND DONE THE MASTER PLAN PLAN AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE'RE ALL KIND OF LEFT YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF AFTER THE FACT AND WE'RE ALL LEFT IN A VERY TOUGH SITUATION. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX EVERYTHING. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DAMAGE ALREADY DONE. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MITIGATE ANY FUTURE PROBLEM INCREASED TRAFFIC, ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE, ETC. SO YOU KNOW Y'ALL ARE IN A TOUGH SITUATION.

I'M GLAD I'M OUT HERE AND I'M NOT SITTING UP THERE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

BUT THAT WOULD JUST BE MY BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LANDS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AN OVERLAY WITH THE GATED COMMUNITIES AND SEE THAT 30% AND THEN KIND OF GO GO FROM THERE. I HAVE OTHER THAT I'M GOING TO MAKE BUT I'M GOING TO HOLD IT FOR LATER TO SEE WHERE WE END UP. BUT WE ARE IN A TOUGH SITUATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. VAN.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ANYWAY, ANTHONY ? HOW YOU DEAR JP'S I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SEAN ESPECIALLY YOU AND YOUR GUYS I MEAN YOU'RE KNOCKING OUT OF THE PARK. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU GUYS ARE GETTING AS MUCH DONE AS FAST AS YOU'RE GETTING DONE. I KNOW THE MONUMENTAL TASK IS FOR YOU GUYS NOT ONLY WITH THE ALAMO BUT WITH THE DISTRICT PLANS AND STUFF. THANK YOU GUYS ARE ROCKING IT.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE AND STAFF AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF HILTON HEAD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THINK ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU THANK YOU MR. ANYTHING AND THE OTHER COMMENTS PROBABLY COMMENTS SEAN WHEN YOU COME BACK PLEASE OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THE COMMITTEE OKAY. WELL MINUS ONE I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT RECEIVED AFTER THE DEADLINE GET INTO ONLINE COMMENTS THAT WERE A NUMBER OF EMAILS WERE RECEIVED AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS A HANDOUT FOR EVERYONE THAT YOU SEE HERE TODAY.

SO I HOPE YOU TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THOSE AND THEN IN IT IT'S HARD I KNOW TO GET COMMENTS IN ON FRIDAY BEFORE A MONDAY MEETING SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO WRITE INDIVIDUALLY TO US AND TO MAKE SURE WE SAW WHAT THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AND THAT IS THAT'S IT. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS I THINK WITH REGARD TO MR. SCOTT'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PD AND COVENANTS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO ASK LEGAL OPINION AS A PLANNER. SURE.

AND LIMIT PROVISIONS ONLY AND THEN AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM THE PREVIOUS STAFF REPORTS THE QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED ABOUT FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AND FAMILY COMPOUNDS THAT JUST DOESN'T CHANGE THE VIEWPOINT WITH REGARD TO HOW THOSE ARE TREATED.

THERE MAY BE SOME NUANCES BUT COULD YOU JUST ADDRESS THOSE TWO THINGS? YEAH. YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. AND SO THE WHILE THE TWO THINGS THE SINGLE FAMILY DEFINITION CHANGE IF A PROPERTY WAS WAS OR COULD BE PERMITTED TO ACCOMMODATE TWO UNITS IF IT HAD BEEN PERMITTED THEN IT DOESN'T IMPACT DOES IT IMPACT THAT PROPERTY IF IT COULD BE PERMITTED FOR TWO AND ONLY TWO BECAUSE IF IT GETS TO THREE IT WAS MULTIFAMILY REGARDLESS IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE THE CHANGES THAT I THAT ARE COVERED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT THE MOTHER IN LAW SUITES IF THE PD ALLOWS THAT AS AN OPTION AND IT WAS WITHIN THEIR MODEL THE MASTER PLAN THEN OUR CODE ISN'T GOING TO ELIMINATE IT.

WHEN YOU LOOK ABOUT LOOK AT DIVISIBLE DWELLING UNITS AND LOCKOUTS THAT THE CHANGE TO THE CODE HERE THEY ONLY APPLY TO CLOSING A RESORT AND ALREADY THE RESORT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS THEY DON'T APPLY TO ANY OTHER DISTRICT ON THE ISLAND SO THERE'S NO CHANGE OR IMPACT THOSE OTHER THOSE OTHER ZONING AREAS ARE PERIODS. AND THEN YOUR SECOND QUESTION ABOUT THE FAMILY OR THE FAMILY COMPOUND SUBDIVISION AND FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS, THE THE

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IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT STEP WHERE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS AND IT'S AGAIN ONLY FOR MORE YOU HAVE TO MEET THE PROVISIONS BUT IF IT'S THREE OR MORE THEN THERE IS NO CHANGE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MEET THE MULTIFAMILY PROVISIONS REGARDLESS.

SO IT DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE THOSE THE FAMILY COMPOUND SUBDIVISION OVER THE PARENTS WHICH CURRENTLY KIND OF A CONDITION TODAY WHAT YOU CALL THE ROCKAWAYS CERTAINLY.

MR. STAMFORD? MOSBACHER YES. MS. YES.

[6C. Report on Annual Service Plan from Palmetto Breeze]

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REPORT OF AN ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN FOR PALMETTO HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT SERVICE TROLLEY SERVICE BEACH SHUTTLE SERVICE AARON BLACK HIS MANAGER ASHLEY GOODRICH PRINCIPAL PLANNER ARE HERE TO REPORT ON THE ANNUAL SERVICE FROM PALMETTO BREEZE.

BUT I ALSO NOTICED THAT LOU IS IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL WHO'S COMING FIRST SEAN COLON STILL MOURNING THIS ENTIRE MANAGER SO YEAH MARY LOU'S GOING TO PROVIDE INITIAL OVERVIEW ON A COUPLE ITEMS AND THEN AARON AND AARON PROVIDE WITH AARON AND KEVIN TYLER'S ON THE BEACH SHUTTLE. OKAY AND KEVIN THE THIRD PART OF IT.

YES. OKAY. WELCOME, MARY LOU.

I'M HERE AND I JUST PUSHED THE AND THE CIRCLE ADVANCE. AH, HERE WE GO.

GOOD MORNING. I THINK STILL IT'S MY PLEASURE TO ADDRESS YOU AGAIN THIS YEAR AND THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR SIXTH YEAR OF THE TROLLEY IF YOU COUNT 2018 WHERE WE WERE HALF A YEAR HALF A SEASON AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE OUR BEST YEAR EVER JUST GIVEN SOME BACKGROUND ON WHY WE DID A STUDY OF THE AIRPORT FOR TRANSIT SERVICES IN THE YEAR 2021.

THE SUMMER HILTON HEAD WAS AT CAPACITY VERY EARLY IN THE SEASON AND WE DISCOVERED AS WE WERE MOVING PEOPLE AROUND THE ISLAND THAT THE AIRPORT WHICH WAS CLOGGED UP WITH PEOPLE THAT COULDN'T RENT CARS BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH RENTAL CARS WE PROVIDED SOME TRANSPORTATION BUT WE WEREN'T SET UP TO ACTUALLY DO TRANSPORTATION AND I KNOW WE GOT A LOT OF CALLS FROM BOTH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AND BEAUFORT.

PLEASE HELP US OVER HERE. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY COVERING THE LOCAL MATCH MONEY WE COMMISSIONED A STUDY OF THE AIRPORT SERVICES AND THE THE NEED FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT SERVICES THERE. AND SO WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT HATCHER FROM OUR SNH IN SAVANNAH WHO DID OUR STUDY. THANK YOU MARY LOU.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR. THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY SO WE HAVE HAD QUITE A LOT OF ACTIVITY OVER THE LAST YEAR GETTING PREPARED TO PRESENT OUR FINDINGS TO YOU ALL SO WE HAVE A BRIEF AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, AN OVERVIEW OF , THE STUDY BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT MARY LOU IS PRESENTED, I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF . WE'RE GOING TO RECAP THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WITH A LENS ON TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING TO AND FROM THE AIRPORT FROM THESE RESORT AREAS AS WELL AS THE UNDERLYING POPULATION AND DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE ISLAND ITSELF BECAUSE WE KNOW WE ARE LOOKING SPECIFIC ONLY AT TRANSPORTING PEOPLE BETWEEN THEIR LODGING THE AIRPORT BUT WE ALSO WANT TO USE THESE RESOURCES TO THE BEST THEIR ABILITY TO ALSO MOVE PEOPLE WHO ARE FULL TIME RESIDENTS HERE WHO MAY HAVE A GAP TRANSPORTATION. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT WHICH WAS EXTENSIVE AND WE WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED SURVEY SCENARIOS AND PREFERRED ALTERNATIVES. SO OUT OF THOSE THAT WE LOOKED WHAT BEST SERVES THE COMMUNITY AND THE VISITORS TO ALLEVIATE PRESSURES OF DEMAND CURRENTLY WHILE ALSO PERHAPS IMPACTING THE DEMAND ON THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK FINANCIAL ESTIMATES AND THEN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES AND OF COURSE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS . SO THIS IS A VERY BRIEF TIMELINE AND WE TOOK THE DATES OFF BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DELAY IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THE PROCESS AS YOU ALL I'M SURE HAVE HEARD INDUSTRY WIDE AND MULTINATION KNOW WHY THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF ROLLING STOCK VEHICLES FOR TRANSIT SERVICES WELL AS A LACK OF AN ABILITY TO HIRE AND TRAIN SO HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A HICCUP IN THE EARLY STAGES OF BEING ABLE TO BE PREPARED TO ROLL SERVICE OUT AND THAT DELAY GAVE US A SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDER

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ARE WE EQUITABLE AND WHO WE'RE PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION TO AND ARE WE BEING EFFECTIVE IN THE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING BE UTILIZED FOR TRANSPORTATION SO WE DID ASK OUR STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC TO HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT GOALS WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT WAS FOUR PRIMARY GOALS SERVICE PASSENGERS ARRIVING AT AND DEPARTING FROM THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT THERE WAS A LOT OF FEEDBACK REGARDING THE SAVANNAH HILTON HEAD ISLAND INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT BUT OUR FOCUS WAS SPECIFICALLY ON THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH FDA GUIDELINES.

THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN YOU ENTER AN AIRPORT ENVIRONMENT NOW YOU'VE GOT FEDERAL AVIATION AND FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION AND THEY HAVE VERY DIFFERENT RULES AT TIMES. SO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE RIGHT RECOMMENDATIONS AND RIGHT REQUIREMENTS THAT FOLLOW THE FUNDING DESIGN COST SERVICE OPTIONS USING AVAILABLE RESOURCES WE DON'T WANT TO COME AND ASK A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER AMOUNT OF FUNDING TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED ON THE ISLAND AND THEN HELP MITIGATE PEAK SEASON TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA ELIMINATING NEED TO RENT A CAR AT ALL OR FOR FOLKS THAT HAVE A PERSONALLY OWNED VEHICLE TAKE THAT VEHICLE OUT FROM THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO ACCESS THESE OTHER AREAS.

THE ISLAND WE WON'T GO INTO GREAT DETAIL ON THIS SLIDE BUT I REALLY DO LOVE AN INFOGRAPHIC THAT SHOWS THAT WE DO HAVE SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN OUR YEAR ROUND POPULATION.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S ANY SURPRISE TO ANYONE ON THIS COUNCIL AS WELL AS TO THOSE IN THE IN THE PUBLIC TODAY THAT TRAFFIC IS COMPOUNDING THE ISSUE AND DEMAND FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ACROSS THE BOARD NOT JUST DURING THE PEAK SEASON.

SO WE DID TAKE A REALLY HARD LOOK AT WHERE FOLKS THAT ARE PERMANENT RESIDENTS ON THE ISLAND LIVE AND WORK AND WHERE THOSE THAT ARE COMING ONTO THE ISLAND FOR EMPLOYMENT PURPOSES DESTINED TO TRAVEL AND HOW WE CAN MAYBE MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AS WELL.

SO THIS PROPENSITY ANALYSIS IS AN INDUSTRY WHERE WE LOOK AT CONCENTRATIONS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STATISTICALLY LIKELY TO NEED AND UTILIZE TRANSIT SERVICES.

AND SO WE LOOK AT THOSE CONCENTRATIONS OF POPULATION THAT FALL WITHIN THOSE INDIVIDUAL CATEGORIES AND THEN WE LOOK FOR A COMBINED CONCENTRATION OF THOSE CHARACTERISTICS. SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS PERHAPS A ZERO CAR HOUSEHOLD THAT'S ALSO A MINORITY FEMALE YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE A DEMAND FOR TRANSIT IF YOU HAVE A CONCENTRATION OF FOLKS MEET MORE THAN ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES.

SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE ISLAND THE WITH THE DEEPEST CONCENTRATION WHICH ARE SHOWN IN THAT RED COLOR AND THEN SECOND THE ORANGE COLOR ARE THOSE AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY FOR YOUR PERMANENT POPULATION SHOWING POTENTIAL DEMAND FOR TRANSIT SERVICES OUTSIDE OF SHUTTLES TO AND FROM THE AIRPORT. WE ALSO LOOKED AT MAJOR EMPLOYERS I KNOW THIS IS VERY SMALL AND IT'S NOT MY INTENT THAT YOU BE ABLE TO READ THAT THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE AND THIS IS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE MAJOR EMPLOYERS ON THE ISLAND WHICH I KNOW YOU KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW YOUR INDUSTRY THEY'RE PRIMARILY HOTELIERS AND LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSPORT THAT HAVE COME TO THE ISLAND WITH REGIONAL TRANSIT BUT THEN THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PERHAPS GET TO LUNCH OR TO UTILIZE SOME OF THE RESOURCES ON THE ISLAND WHILE THEY'RE HERE OR TRANSPORT BETWEEN THESE RESORTS. SO LOOKING AT THOSE LOCATIONS THAT ARE BOTH DESTINATIONS FOR AIRPORT PASSENGERS BUT ALSO THOSE THAT ARE LIVING OR WORKING THE ISLAND WE DID IDENTIFY USER GROUPS WON'T GO INTO THE FINITE DETAILS ON THOSE BUT THERE ARE THREE PRIMARY CATEGORIES THAT IS AIRPORT CUSTOMERS, LOCAL USERS AND LOCAL BUSINESS AND TOURISM DESTINATION ONES THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM SERVICE.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ONE VARIATION IN AIRPORT CUSTOMERS THE TYPE OF THAT ARE TRAVELING TO AND FROM THE AIRPORT VARY PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY. THE TWO PRIMARY CATEGORIES ARE BUSINESS TRIPS AS AS PERSONAL TRIPS WITH FAMILIES AND THEN WE DO HAVE THAT OTHER AREA OF SINGLE TRAVELERS THAT ARE NOT HERE FOR BUSINESS AND SO WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS TRANSPORTATION PROVIDERS THE DIFFERENCES IN THOSE TYPES OF TRIPS AND WHAT THEIR NEEDS FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT WOULD BE THINK BIG FAMILY THINK BIG LUGGAGE.

SO WE DID DO PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. WE HAD A PUBLIC SURVEY THAT WAS OPEN FOR 30 DAYS STARTING FEBRUARY 1ST AND WE HAD 206 RESPONSES WHICH WE WERE REALLY PLEASED WITH. THE RESPONSES VARIED ACROSS THE BOARD.

THEY WERE MULTIPLE CHOICE AS WELL AS MULTIPLE RESPONSE AND AN INTERACTIVE MAP WHERE WE ASKED FOLKS TO PROVIDE SPOTS ON THE MAP WHERE THEY THOUGHT SERVICE WAS MOST NEEDED.

WE ALSO HAD STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEES THAT WERE BOTH TECHNICAL AND POLICY BASED AND ASKED THEM SIMILAR QUESTIONS TO HELP US DEFINE WHO THOSE USER GROUPS ARE AND WHERE SERVICE

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WE DID LOOK AT EVERY INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FLIGHT AT THE TIME BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT WILL FLUCTUATE AS. THE AIRPORT GROWS EVERY YEAR. YOU'LL NEED TO RELOOK AT SCHEDULES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S STILL ALIGNED. THIS IS A MAP SHOWING THE MID ISLAND SOUTH ISLAND ROUTES AS WELL AS THE PRIMARY STOPS. WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT AS THE ISLAND CONTINUES TO CHANGE THOSE STOPS WILL ALSO TO CONTINUE TO BE EVALUATED AFTER THE PILOT PROJECT IS CONCLUDED AND WE DID LOVE PUTTING THOSE BUBBLES ON THERE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE VISITORS A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT THEY WEREN'T AS FAMILIAR WITH THE ISLANDS SO WE DID LIKE BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT TO THEM THE DETAILED SCHEDULES AGAIN THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN IF THEY'RE A TIME POINT START MEANING THE VEHICLE WILL BE THERE THAT TIME FRAME THE OTHERS ARE MORE FLEXIBLE IN NATURE SO IT IS FIXED SCHEDULE AND THIS IS THE SOUTH ISLAND VERSION THAT AGAIN SUBJECT TO CHANGE THE FINANCIAL ESTIMATES CAME IN AT ROUGHLY $263,000 AND THAT IS FOR A PILOT TIME FRAME OF MEMORIAL DAY TO LABOR DAY. WE DID HEAR LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT THERE WAS REQUEST AND DEMAND FOR SERVICE BEYOND THAT TIME FRAME BUT WE WOULD RECOMMEND A PILOT PROJECT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THAT HIGH. OUR ESTIMATED RIDERSHIP WOULD BE EIGHT PASSENGERS PER TRIP, 12 RUNS PER DAY AT PEAK SEASON. I DO ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IF THIS WERE IMPLEMENTED IN 2022 THAT WOULD BE THE ESTIMATED COST WE'RE NOW IN 2023.

SO EACH YEAR THAT WE DO NOT OPERATE THIS WE DO HAVE TO HAVE FACTOR OF INFLATION ADDED TO THAT BOTTOM LINE. SO THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES WOULD WORK THROUGH INITIATION SUCH AS STAFFING PARTNERSHIPS THROUGH OPERATIONS THEN ASSESSING THE PERFORMANCE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF IMPLEMENTATION AS WELL AS AT THE END OF THAT SEASON TO DETERMINE IF IT WAS IN FACT COST BENEFICIAL OUTSIDE OF THE PLANNING ENVIRONMENT AND THEN THE GROW CATEGORY BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING DEMAND AND POTENTIAL FOR FULL TIME TRANSIT SERVICES SO SO TO DETERMINE HOW THAT WORKS WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE PERFORMANCE OF THE TROLLEYS AND THE UNDERLYING TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO BE IN COMPETITION WITH THE EXISTING SERVICES BUT SUPPLEMENTAL AND COMPLIMENTARY WE HAVE PROVIDED TWO PRESENTATIONS THIS IS OUR FINAL PRESENTATION FOR INFORMATION TO YOU ALL TODAY AND IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES THEN BE CARRIED FORWARD BY MARY LOU AND PALMETTO BREEZE AS YOU ALL TOWARDS WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SOMETHING VIABLE FOR IMPLEMENTATION FOR THE ISLAND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE YEAH CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDES IT'S THE ONE THAT WE WERE ALL TURNING AROUND TO LOOK AT ABOUT THE TIME THE TIME DAY IN THE COURSE THIS ONE? YES, MA'AM. YES YES, THAT'S THE ONE LET ME I HAVEN'T TRIED TO STUDY THIS.

YOU HAVE SORT OF START 8 A.M. SERVICE IN TIME 7 P.M. I'M WONDERING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE COMING FROM ESPECIALLY THE CHARLOTTE HUB. THOSE FLIGHTS COME IN A LITTLE BIT LATER AT NIGHT SO THAT'S MY ONE QUESTION. AND SO WE DID TRY TO GET THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK, IF YOU WILL, TO FIND THOSE THAT HAVE THE MOST ACTIVITY OF FLIGHTS DURING THE DAY. THIS DOES NOT COVER ALL FLIGHTS AND IT JUST COST PROHIBITIVE.

SO WE DID TRY TO HIT THE LARGEST MAJORITY BUT YOU CERTAINLY COULD EXPAND TO THAT EARLY FLIGHT TIME WHICH IN FACT IS 5:40 A.M. AND THEN GO UNTIL 9:30 P.M..

BUT WE FOUND THAT THE COST TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF A NOSEDIVE AT THOSE TIMES DURING THE DAY. IS THERE A WAY OF BIFURCATING THE TIME SO THAT IF THERE IS LIKE A LARGE NUMBER OF FLIGHTS COMING AND GOING IN THE EARLY MORNINGS AND LARGE IN THE EVENING, CAN YOU BIFURCATED TIME IT DOES GET A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED TO DO THAT BECAUSE HAVE SPLIT SHIFTS WITH DRIVERS YOU KNOW IF YOU ARE TRYING TO COVER ONE FLIGHT THAT COMES IN AND THERE'S A DELAY OF YOU KNOW, 2 TO 3 HOURS BETWEEN THAT AND THE NEXT BIG ACTIVITY PUSH THAT DOES BECOME FOR SCHEDULING PURPOSES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN WE

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SO THESE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. FORTUNATELY WE DID RECEIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANT MONEY THIS YEAR THAN PREVIOUS YEARS. ALL OF OUR EXPENSES HAVE GONE AS WELL.

WHEN WE GET OUR GRANTS THE GRANTS 50% OF THE OPERATING FUNDS AND SO EVEN IF THIS FULLY GRANT FUNDED IT ONLY COVERS HALF OF THE OPERATING COST. SO WE COULD START WITH THAT THAT ONLY HALF OF THE 263 130 AND SOME CHANGE BE COVERED BY THE GRANT BUT IT'S ALSO ANTICIPATED RIGHT TO BE CHARGED WE WERE LOOKING AT A $5 ONE WAY TRIP AND ALSO IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SOMETHING USABLE FOR THE REST AND TO ALSO DO A MOBILE OUR MOBILE PAYMENT APP THAT WE HAVE IN WE COULD MAKE IT TEN OR $15 PER WEEK SO A RESIDENT COULD THAT TO RIDE EVERY DAY DO A WEEKLY APP FOR EITHER TEN OR $15 AND RIDE THE WHOLE WEEK WHILE STILL BE ABLE TO CHARGE THE DOLLARS PER RIDE TO THE AIRPORT PASSENGER SO THE ANTICIPATION BEING THAT PEOPLE TAKE THEIR LUGGAGE AND ALL THEIR BELONGINGS AND CHILDREN AND AND SUCH TO A BUS STOP ON THE PARKWAY TO BE PICKED UP WHAT ALL OF THOSE LOCATIONS WE HAD WERE THE STOPS WERE WERE ARE ALL PLACES THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING RESORTS AND ALL AND SO THAT IS THE FIXED CROWD AND SO THE BUS WOULD GO BACK TO EACH OF THOSE LOCATIONS AND PICK PEOPLE UP AT THEIR HOTEL AT THE RESORT AND THAT'S HOW ALL THE STOPS ARE LAID OUT. THERE'S MAYBE TWO THAT ARE ALSO TROLLEY STOPS BUT IN GENERAL IT WOULD BE MORE OF A FROM THE RESORT TO THE TO THE AIRPORT TYPE OF SERVICE IN TERMS OF THE TIME THAT WE DID RIDE ROUTE AND WE GOT THE STOPS AS CLOSE TO THE FRONT DOOR OF RESORTS AS POSSIBLE AND IN MOST CASES THAT WAS ACHIEVABLE IN TERMS OF THE TIMING THAT WAS BROKEN BROUGHT UP. MANY OF THESE ROUTES COME THROUGH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS AND YOU WERE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE DIESEL TRUCKS, BUSSES COMING THROUGH WHILE WE FEEL FOR INSTANCE AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT WITH THE SHUTTLE SHUTTLE THIS YEAR THEY AGAIN HAD THAT SMALL SHUTTLE COMING THROUGH THERE BUT EARLY MORNING NOISE IS NOT WELCOMED ON THE ISLAND AND SO I WOULD MAKE A COMMENT WITH REGARD TO THAT AND THEN AND THEN I HAVE THIS MANY MORE THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THIS IS HOW GOVERNMENT GROWS SO INITIALLY WE HAD FIRST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A TROLLEY HELPING OUT WITH BEACH GOERS AND MOVING PEOPLE AROUND AND WAS A GRANT AND WE TRAIN A LITTLE BIT OF CHARGE AND NO ONE WANTED TO PAY.

THE RIDERSHIP WAS VERY, VERY SMALL AND THEN WE DROPPED HAVING TO PAY ANY TYPE OF FEE TO RIDE THE TROLLEY AND NOW IT'S EXPANDED AND SO WE'LL HEAR THAT RIDERSHIP HAS PICKED UP AND NOW WE HAVE A BIGGER SUGGESTION THAT MORE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND A GAP IN FUNDING SO BE A SECOND LAYER OF TOWN CONTRIBUTION I WOULD IMAGINE WE BEING REQUEST TO DOWN THE ROAD AND WE STILL HAVEN'T ACTUALLY GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE THE TOWN IS HILTON AS ACCEPTED AS A POLICY THAT WE HAVE THE INITIAL TROLLEY SO WE'VE WE'VE KIND OF TAKEN THIS ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE MOVING DOWN THE ROAD AND INCREASING THE COSTS TO THE TAXPAYERS IN THE USE OF OUR AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR THIS TYPE OF . SO I THINK IT'S SMART THAT OUR COUNCIL THINK ABOUT WHERE WE'VE COME AFTER OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS HILTON HEAD IS A LIMITED GOVERNMENT TOWN AND THERE ARE REASONS WHY AND THERE IS A POPULATION OF PEOPLE MAJORITY

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YES, SIMPLE QUESTION DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF RESIDENTS TOURISTS USING A TROLLEY? I DO NOT I WOULD WOULD YOU GARNER AN INSTRUMENT THE DRIVERS I WOULD GARNERED THE ESTIMATE OF PROBABLY 80 OR 90% ARE TOURISTS. I THINK WE HAVE AN I GUESS AS WELL BUT IT'S A FACTOR THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE MOVING IT FORWARD. SO THINK ABOUT WAYS THAT POSSIBLY YOU COULD DETERMINE THAT. THANK YOU. WHEN YOU DID THIS STUDY A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF FLIGHTS COMING IN AND OUT OF HILTON HEAD.

IT'S DRAMATICALLY REDUCED AT THIS POINT. SO I THINK THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO NEED TO REFLECT THAT IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN SECONDLY, WHAT KIND OF VEHICLE IF YOU'RE ONLY EXPECTING EIGHT PEOPLE TO RIDE TIMES A DAY, WHAT SIZE VEHICLE ARE YOU USING? THE THE LARGE CUTAWAYS THAT WE USE THEY'RE GREEN ACTUALLY ON THE FARLEY FKS IN THE FRONT ANTICIPATION OF THIS SERVICE BUT THEY WORK GREAT ON THE BEACH SHUTTLE AS SO I AGREE WITH YOU MR. AMES THAT THIS IS NOT LIKE 2021 AND 2021 WE HAD A BIG PROBLEM AT THE AIRPORT AND . WE DON'T MOVE THAT QUICKLY IN THE MIDDLE OF A SEASON AS FAR AS HIRING SEASONAL DRIVERS AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO HAVING THIS PLAN SO THIS SITUATION RECURS AND THERE'S MORE REGIONAL FLIGHTS WHICH I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NOT THIS YEAR WE'RE VERY WELL POSITIONED MOVE FORWARD MUCH QUICKER THAN WE WERE BEFORE DOING STUDY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I THINK I'D LIKE TO INVITE ERIN AND KEVIN TO COME UP AND IF THEIR COMMENTS ARE IN SOME WAY GERMANE TO THIS CONVERSATION, I'D LIKE TO GET THOSE AND THEN WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

THANK YOU. IT IS AFTERNOON NOW AND WE HAVE ONE SLIDE AND YOU MUST HAVE GONE TO THE LEADERSHIP SCHOOL NEW LEADERSHIP SCHOOL YOU GET A STAR AARON FACILITIES MANAGER KEVIN TYLER IS EVENT PROGRAMS MANAGER AGAIN THIS IS COMING INTO MAY IS GOING TO BE OUR THIRD SEASON WITH THE BEACH SHUTTLE AND AGAIN WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH MARY LOU PALMETTO AGREES AND UCB THE UCB LOT IS THE OVERFLOW AND YET ANOTHER OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO THE BEACH ESPECIALLY THE IN AREA AND ONE OF THE THINGS WELL ME GO BACK TWO YEARS TWO YEARS AGO BASICALLY IT WAS JUST OKAY WE NEED SOME KIND OF SHUTTLE TO GET PEOPLE FROM A TO B LAST YEAR WE INTRODUCED THE BEACH AMBASSADORS TO THE U.S. B LOT TO KIND OF GIVE THAT WELCOMING APPROACH THIS YEAR WE REALLY WANT TO ENGAGE IN THAT HUMAN INTERACTION WITH OUR BEACH AMBASSADORS SO IT'S GOING TO BE PROVIDING ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION FACTS AND THAT CONCIERGE SERVICE ESPECIALLY FOR THE SOUTH END. SO AND MARY LOU AND HER FOLKS HER DRIVERS WE ALWAYS GET GREAT COMMENTS ABOUT HOW HOSPITABLE THEY ARE AND THE SOUTHERN HOSPITALITY THEY PROVIDE. SO THAT'S THE FOCUS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS YEAR.

SO I'LL LET KEVIN KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THE STATISTICS. SURE.

JUST FIRST SEARCH FOR SOME INFORMATION FOR THE SUMMER MONTHS WITH THE CLEANING BEACH SHUTTLE, OUR GOAL IS TO REALLY ENHANCE OVERALL BEACH EXPERIENCE FOR OUR RESIDENTS FOR VISITORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND IT'S FREE FREE OF CHARGE AND AGAINST FROM THE UCB HILTON HAD LOTS OF COLONIAL BEACH PARK MEETS THE FRONT CIRCLE THERE AT 2022 RIDERSHIP NUMBERS WERE JUST A LITTLE OVER 3000 WITH SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS BEING THE MOST POPULAR DAYS THIS YEAR THE SHUTTLE WILL RUN FRIDAYS TO SUNDAYS AND ALSO HOLIDAYS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10 A.M. TO 4:30 P.M. AND THAT'S BEGINNING MAY SO JUST A LITTLE OVER A MONTH FROM NOW UNTIL MONDAY, SEPTEMBER WHICH IS LABOR DAY. LIKE AARON HIT ON WE'RE REALLY WANT TO ENHANCE THAT BEACH EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYBODY. OUR BEACH AMBASSADOR PROGRAM WHICH OUR WELCOMING CONCIERGE SERVICE THEY'LL BE PROMOTING SEA TURTLE PROGRAMS. OUR BEACH AMBASSADORS WILL GO THROUGH THE ISLAND AMBASSADOR PROGRAM AT UCB AND THE BEACH SHUTTLE SERVICE WILL BE

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THANK YOU YEAH. YEAH. GWEN ANYTHING YOU KNOW I'M PROUD TO HAVE THIS SERVICE OPEN TO EASE THE PRESSURE ON OUR BEACHES SO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK RECORD IT DOES GOOD GOOD BUSINESS YOU KNOW I WANTED TO ADD ON A BEAUTIFUL BEACH DAY WHEN WE'RE OVERWHELMED PEOPLE THE TROLLEY BUS WILL PULL INTO USCCB ON THEIR ROUTE AND PICK UP ANY OVERFLOW AND SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TOO LONG. THEY HAVE RADIOS AND THEY CAN SWOOP RIGHT IN AND GET ANY IF IT'S A REALLY BUSY DAY AND OVER THE YEARS THE WEATHER WAS GOING TO ASK BECAUSE I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BEACH AND AS IT IS I THINK ANYTIME CAN SHARE THE VALUES OF HILTON HEAD WITH OTHERS IT HELPS IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE THE MONITORS CORRECT ON THE TROLLEYS WE DO HAVE GONE AND WERE ON THE TROLLEYS WE HAVE MONITORS ON THE THE BEACH SHUTTLE BUS WE HAVE A BIG LUGGAGE RACK IN THE FRONT FOR THEM TO PUT THEIR COOLERS AND BEACH CHAIRS AND THINGS SO.

BUT THE MONITORS ARE THERE ALSO SHARING THAT SAME INFORMATION ON THE TRUCKS AND IT'S JUST AGAIN A GREAT SERVICE. THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR BEING AMBASSADORS.

IT'S REALLY KEY SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION ON THE SCHEDULE ENDING ON FOUR SOME OF OUR VISITORS COME AND STAY SATURDAY TO SATURDAY.

SO I GUESS THAT STOPPING ON A MONDAY. YES, THAT'S LABOR DAY MONDAY.

RIGHT. RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNT IS ON GOING TILL THE NEXT SATURDAY AFTER LABOR DAY WHETHER THERE'S BUT I MEAN I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION NOT SAYING LET'S JUST IN THE NUMBERS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS IT REALLY KIND OF DIES OFF AFTER LABOR DAY. IT'S REALLY HAS NOT THAT NEED THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST YEAR. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE FORWARD. I'M SURE THAT WE CAN EXTEND IT WE'RE PRETTY RESPONSIVE IF THERE'S ANYTHING GOING ON IN HILTON HEAD THAT NEEDS US WE WILL GET SOMEBODY ELSE GOING ON RIGHT? YEAH. NOT A REQUEST JUST A QUESTION SO THAT THE AMBASSADORS ARE GIVING THEIR INFORMATION ON SITE US CBD AND THE BUS DRIVERS ARE SHARING FACTS ON THE BUS THAT'S THE WAY THIS IS WORK. THAT'S CORRECT AND BOTH GROUPS ARE TAKING THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. OKAY, GOOD.

AND ARE YOU FINDING THAT THE BUSSES ARE FULL DURING THOSE HIGH HOURS? I MEAN THE QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT SIZE VEHICLE DOING THIS JOB? I THINK WE DO SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS ARE THE BIGGEST DAYS I WOULD SAY PROBABLY FROM THAT NOON TO PROBABLY 3:00 TIMEFRAME. JIM AND MARY LOU CAN PROBABLY CORRECT IF I'M WRONG IS PROBABLY WHEN THE BUS IS THE BUSIEST BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S PACKED SO THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT CRAMMED AND YOU'RE STILL ABLE TO GO BACK AND FORTH A THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE THAT MAY BE SHARED BY OTHERS IS THAT THE VEHICLE IS AS SMALL AS MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE SERVICE SO AND I THINK I HEARD THIS IT'S A DEDICATED BUS FOR THIS ROUTE NOT SHARED IN OTHER PARTS. HOW OFTEN DOES THE ROUTE OF CYCLE? I THINK IT'S EVERY TEN OR 15 MINUTES IT'S A NON STOP ONCE IT GETS STARTED THEY JUST GO BACK AND FORTH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THE AIRPORT DISCUSSION DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO YOUR REPORT. SO ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS REPORT YOU'RE A ON WHAT THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM ON BIKE AMBASSADORS YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROGRAM. IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY I'D SUGGEST YOU CONNECT WITH BIKE WALK AND THE HEAD OF THE BIKE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM NOW IS JODY BERGEN'S.

SO YOU KNOW FRANK THEY REALLY CAN'T CONNECT IF YOU DON'T KNOW JOAN, YOU CAN CONNECT THAT WAY . BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO COMPARE NOTES LIKE SOME OF THE SAME INTERESTING QUESTIONS. GREAT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH NOW THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE KEVIN . BACK TO THE AIRPORT. WERE YOU FOR SOME KIND OF REACTION WE SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING? IS THERE AN EXPECTATION THAT WERE EXPECTING ACTION TODAY OR IS THIS ONLY IF YOU ASK THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE REALLY WANTED TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD THIS THEN WE WOULD TAKE IT INTO FURTHER ACTION BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE FLIGHTS ARE HERE IN 2023 MAY NOT BE THE YEAR TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

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WELL THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME HERE AND GIVE US ABBREVIATED BRIEFING.

IT'S A GOOD STUDY. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU MARY LOU AND. I WOULD JUST ASK REPEAT WHAT I SAID THAT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME THIS STARTED OUT AS A PILOT PROGRAM AND WE'VE MADE ADJUSTMENTS ALONG THE WAY BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN THERE WAS NEVER A POINT WHERE THE COUNCIL TOOK IT ON AS SOMETHING THAT IS AN ESTABLISHED POLICY TO HAVE THIS RELATIONSHIP AND SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE DO THAT OR WHAT THE APPROPRIATE STEPS ARE ON IT BUT BEFORE IT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT IS EXPECTED AND ENTRENCHED IN PEOPLE'S MINDS WITHOUT I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THOSE DETAILS STILL.

YEAH I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A VALID POINT. IT'S REALLY AN INTERNAL MATTER MARY LOU I THINK THAT IT'S ALMOST BECOME SOMETHING LIKE AN AFFILIATED AGENCY WHERE WE ARE JUST A YEAR TO YEAR EXPECTING TO BE ABLE TO FUND. I THINK THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO RATIFY IT AS AN AFFILIATED AGENCY OR NOT AN AFFILIATED AGENCY MAY BE THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY IN THIS PARTICULAR BUT I THINK COUNCILMAN BECKER IS MAKING A GOOD POINT IF WE HAVEN'T DONE IT IN THE PAST WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO DO AND JUST ONE THING I'D LIKE TO TO LEAVE THIS COMMITTEE WITH IS ALWAYS SPOKEN EVERYWHERE I'VE GONE ESPECIALLY IN BUDGETS SEASON TALKING ABOUT DEDICATED FUNDING AND HOW LARGER TRANSIT SYSTEMS OPERATE IS WITH A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE IN AND THAT IS MY WISH IS THAT WE GET OUT OF YOUR GENERAL FUND WE TO EVERYBODY'S GENERAL FUND AND WE HAVE OUR OWN ENTERPRISE FUND AND HOPEFUL THAT THAT IS IN OUR FUTURE AND SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S ALSO VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO FROM YEAR TO YEAR OR TO LOOK AT GROWTH IN A REGION WHEN EACH EVERY MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY GOVERNMENT HAS TO GIVE US MONEY OTHER GENERAL FUND I THINK THAT SURVEY RESULTS TERMS OF GLEN'S QUESTION VISITOR VERSUS RESIDENT WILL BE IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF WHAT FUNDS ARE APPROPRIATE WHETHER IT'S TAX IF WE'RE SERVING JUST OUR TOURISTS THERE CERTAINLY AN ARGUMENT FOR IT COMING FROM A DIFFERENT PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING. THANK YOU, LOU.

ANY PARTING COMMENTS ON THE PART OF THE COMMITTEE HEARING? WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH

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