Apr 03, 2023 Town of Hilton Head Gullah Geechee Land & Cultural Preservation Task Force

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ON IT. WELCOME TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND LEGACY LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASKFORCE MEETING THIS IS APRIL THE THIRD 2023 GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS

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[2. FOIA Compliance – Public notification of this meeting has been published, posted, and distributed in compliance with the South Carolina Freedom of Information Act and the requirements of the Town of Hilton Head Island.]

[3. Roll Call]

OKAY WOULD YOU CALL THE CERTAINLY MR. ABDELMALEK PRESIDENT MR. SIMMONS PRESIDENT MR. CAMPBELL PRESIDENT. MR. HAYNES PRESIDENT MR. STEPHENS HERE AND MS..

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NEXT I HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE WE HAVE A QUORUM. WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM.

WE THINK WE DO. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT AGENDA SO AS TO HINTS TO SECOND SECOND BY MR. SIMMONS ALL IN FAVOR WAS RIGHT HAND

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OKAY, VERY GOOD. I SHOULD PAUSE A MOMENT AND JUST AGAIN WELCOME EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE. I DO SEE COUNCILWOMAN BECKER AND COUNCILMAN BROWN PRESENT AND OF COURSE STAFF AND ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR PUBLIC.

[7. Staff Report ]

STAFF REPORT IS THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA FIRST IS DISTRICT PLANNING UPDATE AND THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BY MS. AT THE OH THERE SHE IS AND SEE GOOD AFTERNOON LUECK ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OUR DISTRICT PLANNING PROJECT IS GOING BEFORE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE ON MONDAY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT A DRAFT DISTRICT MAP AS WELL AS A DRAFT GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE TO GET SOME DIRECTION FEEDBACK AND THEN WE WILL YOU KNOW, ADVANCE THE PROJECT BASED ON THAT DIRECTION SO WE'LL LIKELY HAVE A FAR MORE SUBSTANTIVE UPDATE NEXT MONTH FOR THE TASK FORCE BUT DO TUNE IN NEXT WEEK TO THAT MEETING TO FIND OUT MORE AND EXAMINING THAT QUESTION WE'RE PROMISING THIS POINT IS THAT IT IS IN THE WORKS. YES, SIR. MR. MALIK, IN THAT FRAMEWORK MAP DOES THAT MEAN THAT PRETTY MUCH I DON'T KNOW. I D IN TERMS OF WHICH DIRECTION OR NEIGHBORHOOD YOU CAN TEND TO GO OR WE WANT TO WORK IN THE FRAMEWORK MAP WON'T BE BY NEIGHBORHOODS OR AT THAT SCALE OR LEVEL IT'S MORE OR LESS THE THE MAP THAT SHOWS AREAS THAT HAVE CAPACITY FOR INCREASED GROWTH OR IDENTIFY IN THOSE MIXED USE CENTER AREAS WHEN GO INTO THE DISTRICT PLANNING BY DISTRICT AS WE'RE GOING TO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOVE MORE OF THE DISTRICT LEVEL OR NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL PLANNING DISTRICTS THAT WE STEERING DETERMINED ABOUT 28 TOTAL DISTRICTS THE MIDLAND DISTRICT BEING ONE OF THE EIGHT.

OKAY. AND SO THOSE DRAFT DISTRICT MAPS ALSO WILL BE UNVEILED NEXT WEEK AS WELL. THANK YOU. OVER QUESTIONS FOR MISSY AND OF COURSE THIS IS IN PLACE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN CALLING THE OVERLAY PLAN MOVING TOWARD PLANNING. SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION THAT MAYBE THE NEXT TIME AROUND. YES, SIR.

AND FAIR TO SAY THAT I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN OUT THERE WHAT'S GOING ON IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT AS A TASKFORCE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE REALIZE THAT DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE DIFFERENT DYNAMICS AND HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS AND ABILITIES.

SO WE ARE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. OKAY.

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THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN STUDENT REPORT.

THIS IS ALSO PART OF OUR STAFF REPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU HERE TODAY. WE HAVE A BRIEF UPDATE JUST SOME UPDATE ON ACTIVITY ON THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS DESIGN PERMITTING AND DESIGN STUDIOS TODAY. WE'LL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE CASE STUDIES THROUGHOUT YEAR PROVIDED ONE LAST MEETING AND JUST WANTED TO UPDATE YOU WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE THE LAST MEETINGS WE'VE HAD FOUR NEW REQUESTS COME IN AND WERE VARIED AND WHAT THEY WERE REQUESTING THERE WERE SOME BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION QUESTIONS FOOD TRUCKS CAME UP AS WELL AS YOU KNOW MOBILE HOME PLACEMENT AND FAMILY AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

MOST NOTABLY WORKING WITH FAMILIES WHO HAVE LAND TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT APPLICATION WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM BASED ON THEIR NEEDS AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THEIR LAND. AND TALKING THEM THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION VERSUS MINOR SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS AND THE DIFFERENCES IN THOSE AND HELPING THEM TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY. SO THAT'S THAT WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF COMPLETED REQUESTS OR STUDIOS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND SO JUST TO REMIND YOU KIND OF WHAT COMPLETED MEANS AND THE DESIGN STUDIO REQUEST PROCESS IS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THE FAMILY PROVIDED CUSTOMER SERVICE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL DETAIL ON HOW TO YOU KNOW, SET THINGS UP, HELP THEM WITH THE CONCEPT DESIGN. AND ONCE WE DELIVERED A CONCEPT DESIGN WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, SITE SITE PLAN REQUIRED FOR MOST OF OUR APPLICATIONS THEN THE FAMILY TAKES THAT INFORMATION AND DECIDES HOW THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, WHETHER THEY WANT TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION, AN OFFICIAL APPLICATION OR NOT. AND SO THAT AT THAT POINT CALL THAT COMPLETED. NOW THE FAMILY HAS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR NEEDS ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. THEY COULD ALWAYS COME BACK TO US AND IN THAT POINT WE MIGHT PUT THEM BACK IN AND ACTIVE IN PROGRESS STATUS BUT ONCE WE DELIVER THAT CONCEPT PLAN OR THEY'VE SAID THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT APPLICATION THEY WANT TO SUBMIT OR WHETHER THEY'RE READY TO SUBMIT APPLICATION.

WE WILL WE'LL CALL COMPLETED AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT AND WE STILL HAVE YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF ONGOING REQUESTS STUDIOS WITH WHICH AGAIN KIND OF HAVING THAT OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH FAMILIES AND IF THEY'RE YOU KNOW STILL AND DECIDING MODE ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR LAND GIVEN THE DESIGN STUDIO SERVICE THEN WE CONSIDER THOSE ACTIVE AS WELL UNTIL THEY LET US KNOW THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD. SO WE'LL WE'LL PLAN TO PROVIDE A CASE FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND THAT'S IT FOR THE STUDIO PROCESS UPDATES TODAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY KNOWS ABOUT THIS ON YOUR CALLS FOR HELP? DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE MAJORITY OF OUR POPULATION THAT THE SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THEM AT THIS POINT? I CAN'T SAY THAT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE MAJORITY KNOWS THAT IT'S AVAILABLE BUT WE DO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARE THAT THIS SERVICE IS AVAILABLE WHENEVER WE'RE OUT SPEAKING IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ASK THAT YOU KNOW, EACH OF YOU LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE COMING TO YOU WITH QUESTIONS AND THEN OF COURSE IF WE GET CUSTOMER SERVICE LIKE PHONE CALLS I GET A LOT OF CALLS THROUGHOUT THE DAY THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AND YOU KNOW IF IT'S A QUICK ANSWER I CAN GIVE IT TO THEM BUT IF NOT THEN I'LL SAY I THINK YOU MIGHT BENEFIT COMING TO THE DESIGN STUDIO.

AND SO I KNOW A NUMBER OF OF YOU OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE ALSO SPREADING THAT WORD. I WAS GOING TO GIVE THIS UPDATE A LITTLE LATER BUT I WILL JUST SAY THAT LUANA TOOK ME AROUND FOR INTRODUCTIONS TO THE HISTORIC GULLAH CHURCHES OVER THE LAST MONTH AND SO WE'VE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR THAT THE DESIGN STUDIO PROCESS EXIST AND THAT WE ARE OPEN FOR FOR NEW REQUESTS AND THAT PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE THAT SERVICE TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, LAND DEVELOPMENT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND OF COURSE GET THOSE CONCEPT AND SITE THE SITE PLANS AND SUCH.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY CONTINUING TO LET IT YOU KNOW, LET THAT SERVICE BE KNOWN THROUGH OUR OUTREACH. I KNOW YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT YOU HAVE APPLICATION OF FOOD TRUCKS TOO THAT CAME IN. HOW MANY APPLICATIONS FOR FOOD TRUCKS YOU HAD COME IN SO FAR? WELL, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE UNDER THE DESIGN STUDIO PROCESS I'VE HAD.

OKAY. NOW SOME THE THING IS SOME FOLKS DON'T KNOW THAT THE DESIGN STUDIO PROCESS EXISTS. RIGHT? SO THEY MIGHT COME THROUGH OUR ANOTHER APPLICATION PROCESS IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. SO THAT'S NOT A TWO IS NOT THE

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AND I DO I HAD TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN STUDIO PROCESS IF I WANT TO DO THAT OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO. YOU HAVE YOU DO THE FOOD TRUCK LICENSE DOES REQUIRE A SITE PLAN SO IF YOU NEED HELP WITH DESIGNING YOUR SITE PLAN AND GETTING THE PARKING AND ACCESS WORKED OUT THEN IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT OUTSIDE OF THE DESIGN STUDIO PROCESS OR WITHIN DESIGN STUDIO PROCESS. OKAY. YES.

YES. MR. WHITE, YOU HAD A QUESTION? YEAH.

YEAH, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. I HAVE. PLEASE.

YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING YOURSELF FOR THE GOOD I ANDRE WHITE A COUPLE QUESTION JUST ABOUT THE DESIGN STUDIO ONE. LIKE WHAT'S THE DURATION? RIGHT.

SO IF YOU BRING IN A SITE PLAN LIKE HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO SORT OF GET FEEDBACK AND THEN TO WHAT LEVEL OF DETAIL GOES INTO IT? IS IT LIKE AT THAT POINT I'M READY TO LIKE SUBMIT FOR ONE OF THE SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS OR DO I STILL NEED TO GO WORK WITH THE SURVEY OR PLANNING COMPANY TO THEN COME BACK WITH THAT PACKAGE? THANKS. FEEDBACK. LET'S SEE IF I REMEMBER BOTH OF THOSE QUESTIONS. SO I KNOW I CAN YOU KNOW, TRY TO ANSWER THE LAST ONE ABOUT HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET THE CONCEPT PLAN GOING? IT DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF'S WORKLOAD. BUT WE'RE WE LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S USUALLY BETWEEN ONE AND THREE WEEKS DEPENDING ON HOW MANY REQUESTS WE'VE RECENTLY GOTTEN AND OF COURSE OUR PLANNERS WORK ON NOT ONLY THE DESIGN STUDIOS BUT ALSO THAT OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THE THROUGH THE TOWN. AND THEN WHAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WE PROVIDE A GREAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WORK THROUGH VARIOUS PARTS OF THE LIMO AND HOW THAT AFFECT WHAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO WITH THEIR LAND.

SO THAT'S A HIGH LEVEL OF DETAIL WE CAN PROVIDE IF THE IF THE REQUESTS, YOU KNOW, REQUIRES THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. WE ALSO WE HAVE OUR DESIGNER IN OUR PLANNERS ON STAFF THAT HELP TO DEVELOP THOSE CONCEPT. AND SO WE TALK ABOUT THE ACCESS WE, TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HOW THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

WE INVOLVE OTHER PARTS OF OTHER DIVISIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS FIRE RESCUE ENGINEERING STORMWATER WE WILL INVOLVE THEM AS WELL IN THE DESIGN STUDIO PROCESS WHICH THEY'RE USUALLY INVOLVED IN THE APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT REVIEW ANYWAYS AND SO WE OFFER THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL EXPERTIZE IN THE DESIGN STUDIOS AS WELL.

ONE FOLLOW UP ON THAT. SURE. SURE SO JUST JUST SO OKAY.

SO THEN TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU GET THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL FROM THE TOWN, CAN YOU THEN TAKE THAT AND USE THAT IN YOUR APPLICATION OR DO YOU HAVE TO STILL GO OUT TO THE DESIGN COMMUNITY, HAVE THEM DESIGN IT AND THEN SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.

OKAY. THINKING OF THAT, THAT WAS YOUR OTHER PART.

SO WE PROVIDE A CONCEPT PLAN THAT THE APPLICANTS ARE THEN ABLE TO TAKE TO THE SURVEYOR TO TO WITH THAT THAT SERVICE IS TO TRY TO HELP CUT OUT YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH WITH THE SURVEYOR. AND SO YEAH THAT WE PROVIDE THAT TO TO THE APPLICANT AND THEY CAN TAKE THAT AND THAT IS WHAT IS REQUIRED THE APPLICATION IS TO HAVE A SITE PLAN DEPENDING ON WHICH APPLICATION IS. I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE WORKING ON A NUMBER OF PROCESS AS YOU KNOW THIS IS A NEW NEWER PROGRAM AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON SOME THINGS TO HELP MAKE THE PROCESS SMOOTHER AND WORK FASTER AS WELL.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.

I MIGHT ASK YOU TO APPROACH AND HELP US WITH THIS. LAST WEEK THERE WAS SOME THINGS THAT WERE APPROVED THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THAT WAS THE DEFINITIONS OF THE FAMILY AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION NOT BEING NECESSARY UNITS. CAN SOMEONE GIVE US A LITTLE UPDATE ON THAT? IT JUST A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON WHY WE'RE IN THIS SETTING BECAUSE YOU LIVE AGAIN. SO PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED OUR PHASE THREE SET OF THE ALAMO AMENDMENTS PROJECT AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL ALSO BE GOING TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE NEXT MONDAY AS WELL. THAT AMENDMENT SET WAS TO CHANGE DEFINITIONS NOT FOR A FAMILY COMPOUND OR SUBDIVISION BUT FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY AND THEN ALSO TO ELIMINATE DIVISIBLE DWELLING UNITS WHICH ARE LOCKOUT UNITS.

AND SO THE AMENDMENT RECOMMENDS CHANGES TO CLARIFY THOSE TWO DEFINITIONS OF SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY SINGLE FAMILY CURRENTLY AS DEFINED AS TWO OR LESS AND IT'S TO SIMPLIFY THAT

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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AMENDMENT BUT IT WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS AGAIN TO PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE NEXT WEEK.

OKAY. PROBABLY TAKING A DEEPER LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISSY ABOUT WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BRINGING THAT FORWARD AS TO WHAT TRANSPIRED LAST WEEK? THANK YOU.

SHE SAID IT DID NOT AFFECT FAMILY COMPOUND. THAT'S CORRECT.

JUST A MATTER OF DEFINITION. A DEFINITION CHANGE IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S A DEFINITION CHANGE. YES. FAMILY COMPOUND FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS ARE CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY USE. SO THE CHANGE IN SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTI-FAMILY NOT IMPACT THOSE DEVELOPMENT TYPES. NOW WHAT ABOUT SETBACK REQUIREMENT IS THERE THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGES HOW SETBACKS AND BUFFERS ARE APPLIED WITH THE CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY AGAIN THIS APPLIES ONLY TO THOSE THAT CURRENTLY HAVE TWO HOMES ON ONE PARCEL BECAUSE ALL OTHER PROPERTIES WITH THREE OR MORE HOMES ON A PARCEL WOULD ALREADY BE USING THE MULTIFAMILY SETBACKS AND BUFFERS AND AND WE IDENTIFIED THAT WAS AROUND 146 POSSIBLE PROPERTIES BUT OF THOSE THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ONLY HAD DENSITY TO HAVE TWO UNITS ON THEM IT PULLED IT DOWN TO I WANT TO SAY AROUND 50 PROPERTIES. AND OF THOSE THE DIFFERENCES IN THE SETBACK AND BUFFER TABLES THAT ARE APPLIED IT'S ACTUALLY NO CHANGE TO THE ADJACENT STREET SETBACK OR BUFFER IN MOST CASES IT'S NO CHANGE OR THE SETBACK AND BUFFER IS REDUCED FOR THE SIDE SETBACKS DEPENDING ON YOUR ADJACENT USE AND THE ONLY AREAS WHERE THERE COULD BE A LARGER SETBACK OR BUFFER IS IF YOU'RE ADJACENT TO A TIDAL OR FRESHWATER WETLAND. AND FROM OUR ANALYSIS THERE ARE ONLY APPROXIMATELY TEN PROPERTIES THAT COULD HAVE NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES ON THEM BASED ON THAT CHANGE. AND OF THOSE TEN PROPERTIES, HOW MANY ARE IN THE HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOODS? WELL, ORIGINALLY WE LOOKED AT OF THE 146 ABOUT 90% WERE IN HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THE TEN WOULD HAVE BEEN IN A HISTORIC.

OKAY. AND THIS WILL KIND OF BE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE PLANNING AS FAR AS LIKE THE DISTRICT PLANNING THAT WON'T WHAT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING GOING FORWARD WITH DISTRICT PLANNING . MY COMMENTS LAST WEEK WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING IN PLACE THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND TRY TO UNDO AND MAKING SURE WE YOU KNOW, DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. RIGHT.

WELL, CERTAINLY WITH DISTRICT PLANNING WE ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THE DISTRICTS THROUGH YOU KNOW, THE IMPLEMENTATION ARM WHICH WOULD BE POSSIBLE ELMO AMENDMENTS TO BRING THEM INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE DISTRICT PLANNING PROCESS IDENTIFIES AS THE NEEDS FOR THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT IN THOSE DISTRICTS.

SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE CODE CHANGES AS A RESULT OF DISTRICT PLANNING.

WITHOUT A DOUBT AND THESE DEFINITIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD ARE GOING TO THE PLANNING PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE OF THE CLIENT PLANNING COMMITTEE.

YES. OKAY. SO THEY'RE NOT IN PLACE YET.

WILL THOSE NO, SIR. THEN GO TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR TWO READINGS OR TWO READINGS.

SO PUBLIC WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE INPUT AND WE'LL GET SOME CORRECTED AUDIO GOING THROUGH THE PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS. OKAY, GOOD.

IF THIS DOES PASSES AND HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR THE GOOD GOOD TO GO IN EFFECT IT WOULD BE ENACTED IT WERE PASSED AT SECOND READING. OKAY.

OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU, MR..

OKAY. WHAT'S FOR THE SECOND QUESTION? OKAY.

YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR IN YOUR POINT OF VIEW AND ZONING CHANGES AND WHAT THEY HAVE IS WHETHER OR NOT WOULD THAT DO THE SERVICE OR IS IT GOING TO BE AN ADMINISTRATOR LEVEL? I THINK 10 MINUTES AGO AND WHOLE 30 DAYS. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

WE ACTUALLY WENT DURING THE SERVICE SO WE WERE ABLE TO ENJOY SERVICE WITH THE CONGREGATION AND THEN ALSO SPEAK AT CERTAIN POINT THAT WAS DESIGNATED FOR US AND THEN I WAS ALSO GOING TO MENTION LATER ON BUT I'LL MENTION IT NOW THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN INVITED BACK TO THE CHURCHES TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TIME TO, HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND ALSO SHARE

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YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT AND I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT TOO.

SO I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT IN YOUR REPORT. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN GOING AROUND VISITING THE CHURCHES BECAUSE LAWANDA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SINGING IN CHURCH WITH ME AT THAT TIME BUT ANYWAY THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING. I KNOW SHE'S SEEN BUT THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE WAS THAT I WAS AWARE THAT YOU WERE DOING THAT. WE HAVE MADE EFFORT TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THE CHURCHES AND THE MINISTERS. WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD COMMUNICATION GOING WITH THEM ABOUT ONCE A MONTH. I DO KNOW ALSO THAT THERE IS A NEWSLETTER THAT COMES OUT OF MOUNT WHICH IS ANOTHER SOURCE OF COMMUNICATION AND HELPING TO THAT WORD OUT. AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF GETTING WORD OUT NOT JUST ON PAPER OR THROUGH ELECTRONICS BUT IN PERSON. SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GO IN PERSON, CONTINUE TO PUT YOUR FACE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY SO PEOPLE WHO YOU ARE AND ALSO SHARING THAT INFORMATION. ABSOLUTELY AND I ATTEND OTHER EVENTS AS WELL OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND PLAN TO CONTINUE DOING THAT.

SO WE'LL KEEP MAKING IT MAKING IT KNOWN AND BEING AVAILABLE. LET'S QUICKLY GOOGLE I'D LIKE TO COMMENT AS WELL ON PORTION OF VISITED I HAVE TO VISIT MY CHURCH ON THE DAY OF OUR VISIT SO I KNOW THAT HER VISIT WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED AND THE INFORMATION IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME SHE DELIVERED A LOT OF INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY OR TO THE CONGREGATION AT THE TIME SHE WAS THERE THAT WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED SO I KNOW THE VISIT AT LEAST AT FIRST THAT RECORD WAS VERY WAS A GOOD VISIT AND I THINK IN THE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND WITH ME BEING THERE TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE WHAT WE DO HERE HOW THIS EVENT WENT WELL.

ALSO I LIKE THE BACK OF A COMMENT ON THE MR. WHITE HAS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DESIGN STUDIO AND. I THINK ONE OF THE FOCUS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT WHEN YOU COME IN WITH AN APPLICATION OF COURSE THERE ARE SEVERAL APPLICATION FOR WHATEVER YOUR GOAL IS. SO YOU KNOW THE MAIN THING IS THAT WHEN WHEN PEOPLE COME IN THEY SHOULD KNOW FIRST ASK WHY DO I HAVE THE RIGHT APPLICATION AND THE ASSISTANCE THAT I PARTICIPATED IN WHAT APPLICATION HERE RECENTLY WITH THE PLANNERS AND EVERYONE THE PROCESS IS RELATIVELY EASY IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR YOUR GOAL IS WHEN YOU COME THEY CAN ASSIST IN THAT PROCESS GOALS RATHER RELATIVELY SMALL AS WELL AND THE MORE YOU KNOW THAT RESIDENTS HEAR ABOUT THE PROCESS AND HOW IT GOES, I THINK THEY'LL A PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHEN THEY COME IN WHICH APPLICATION AND THE PROCESS GOES PRETTY SMOOTHLY FROM THERE. SO THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU.

MY QUESTION FOR QUESTIONS YOU KNOW OKAY. THANK YOU, CHRISTIAN AND I APPRECIATE THAT MR. SIMMONS IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THOSE OF US CERTAINLY ON THE TASK FORCE AND IN THE COMMUNITY THAT KNOW THAT THIS PROGRAM EXISTS TO BE GOOD ADVOCATES AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HELPING TO SPREAD THE WORD AS WELL. SO THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT OC OF THE NEXT ITEM HAVE ON OUR AGENDA IS THE HOME SAFETY AND REPAIR PROGRAM UPDATE AND GOING TO HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THIS NAME IS IT NICKNAME YES. OKAY VERY GOOD.

GOOD AFTERNOON. ACTIVE PRESENTERS ARE SO FOR THE HOME SAFETY REPAIR PROGRAM AS OF TODAY APRIL 3RD 2023 WE HAVE RECEIVED 106 APPLICATIONS 76 OF THOSE HAVE WHICH BEEN APPROVED 36 HAVE HAD SITE VISITS COMPLETED TOWN STAFF 20 OF THOSE ARE JUST NOW AWAITING BIDDING AND 11 OF THEM HAVE HAD CONTRACTOR VISITS HELD AND WE HAVE HAD ESTIMATES FROM VARIOUS CONTRACTORS AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACTUALLY AWARD A CONTRACT AND A CONTRACTOR WILL BE ABLE TO START AS SOON AS HE ACQUIRES ALL NECESSARY. WE HAVE 45 SITE VISITS SCHEDULED TO BE TO BE SCHEDULED WITH TOWN STAFF FIRST AND THEN CONTRACTOR BIDDING AND THEN WE

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AND FOR THE SEWER CONNECTION PROGRAM WE HAVE 25 APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED 18 HAVE LETTERS OF APPROVAL FOR CONNECTION ESTIMATES. 14 OF THOSE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN COMPLETED AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR THAT HAVE YET TO BE COMPLETED BUT ARE UNDERWAY AND THEN WE HAVE SEVEN APPLICATIONS NEEDED THAT NEED US TO FILL FROM AND THAT CONCLUDES MY OKAY QUESTIONS I'M SORRY CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AGAIN? NICK HEY NICK.

NICK DE BARRIENTOS OKAY. I'LL GO WITH NICK. YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION OUT OF THE EIGHT THAT DIDN'T GET APPROVED FOR INCOME, IS THERE ANOTHER SOURCE THAT THEY COULD GO THROUGH OR WAS THOSE EIGHT WERE THEY THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY? WERE THEY RENTED OUT? THEY ARE OWNERS. SO IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR THE HOME SAFETY YOU DO HAVE TO BE THE OWNER. WE DON'T.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THERE WEREN'T ANY SPECIFIC ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAVE REALLY FOUND AT THE MOMENT. I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE OTHER HABITAT AND PEOPLE DO HAVE THEIR SEPARATE PROGRAMS BUT THEY ARE ALSO ON AN INCOME VERIFIED BASIS AND A LOT OF THEM ALSO DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS SO WE DON'T WANT TO SEND OUT PEOPLE TO ALSO BE MAYBE REJECTED SOMEWHERE ELSE. YEAH SO THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY CRITERIA THAT WOULD DISQUALIFY THEM IS THE INCOME. YES SIR THAT AND OWNERSHIP AS WELL FOR THE OWNERSHIP. YES YEAH. WAS IT LIKE A SINGLE HOUSEHOLD OR A TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLD? IT VARIED WITH THEM. MOST OF THEM WERE TWO OR MORE.

OKAY. YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING HOW CONTRACTS ARE AWARDED IN TERMS OF ANOTHER CONTRACT, IS THAT GOING TO SUBMIT A APPLICATION TO BE IN THE RUNNING? YES BUT THEN ONCE A PERSON IS IN THAT LIST OF AVAILABLE CONTRACTORS HOW DO YOU DETERMINE CONTRACT TO WHICH JOE IS BETTER ON SET? SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? WE NEED AT LEAST THREE BIDS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO AWARD A CONTRACT AND THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REVIEW WITH THE BUILDING AND PROCUREMENT JUST WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE. SO WE WOULD JUST CHOOSE THE BEST OVERALL WHO'S ABLE TO DO THE WITH MONEY THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE AND WHAT OKAY AND I WOULD RECOMMEND COMPARING THEM TO THE SEWER CONNECTION IF SOMEONE DOESN'T QUALIFY AT THE PSC LEVEL IS THE APPLICATION DO YOU SO FOR SEWER WE ACTUALLY YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATION TO DBA BEFORE AND WILL GO THROUGH THEIR VERIFICATION FOR THE SAFE FOR THEIR PROJECT AND THEN IF THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR THEM THEY'LL BRING IT TO US.

SO WHEN THE APPLICATIONS GET ME THEY'RE ALREADY APPROVED BUT BUT THE AWARDING OF THAT CONTRACT TO A CONTRACTOR DOES IT GO TO THAT SAME PROCESS OF THREE BIDS?

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SO SINCE YOU SAID THAT YOU APPROVED RIGHT FROM THE WELL AND THAT THAT INFORMATION TO AN INDEPENDENT PERSON DIDN'T QUALIFY AT THE DIFFERENT LEVEL AND THERE'S A THERE'S A PRICE FOR IT'S OF THAT ONE AND 15 THAT WAS ADMITTED IN TOWN AND IT SAYS OF THE 15,000 AND WE WILL WE WILL WE WILL UNDERWRITE 10,000 OF THAT WE SAY NO WE WE'RE AWARDING THE FULL ESTIMATE FOR THE SEWER CONNECTION PROGRAM. OKAY WE'LL GET THAT NUMBER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT HE IS DEALING WITH THREE ESTIMATES UNIT PRICE PSG IS HANDLING ALL OF PROCUREMENT THROUGH THEIR PROCUREMENT PROGRAM. SO WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THERE THEY'RE ESTIMATING WITH THE CONTRACTORS. NO.

OKAY. SO WE'RE ONLY AWARDING THE CONTRACTORS FOR HOME AND SAFELY PREPARE? THAT'S CORRECT. AS TO THE PROCESS IS A DIFFERENT YEAH I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CONTRACTORS FOR THE HOME AND SAFETY HERE IS THERE SOMEONE WHEN THOSE CONTRACTORS ARE FINISHED WITH THEIR WORK IS THERE SOMEBODY THE TOWN TO GO AND CHECK UPON THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE DOING IT.

YEAH SURE THE WORK REQUIRES PERMITS AND JUST LIKE ANY PERMITTED PROJECT WITH THE TOWN THERE'S INSPECTIONS THAT TAKE PLACE AND SO YES IT FOLLOWS ALL OF THE ROUTINE INSPECTION PROCESS TO CLOSE OUT A BUILDING PERMIT THAT WE THAT WE GO THROUGH AS A PART OF OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION RELATIVE TO THE CONTRACTORS THEMSELVES, IT SEEMS LIKE THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE YOU DID NOT HAVE A ANY NUMBER OF GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND THERE WERE GOING TO BE A PROCESS OR A BLANKET CONTRACT THAT WERE GOING TO USE AND THEN MAYBE YOU MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE WHO COULD DO THE WORK BASICALLY COME UNDER THAT BLANKET GENERAL CONTRACT OR HAVE GOTTEN INFORMATION FROM LOCAL GENERAL CONTRACTORS THEMSELVES. SO WE'RE DOING BOTH AT THE MOMENT WE HAVE THE CONTRACT WITH GUARDIAN IN WHICH THEY ARE USING A CONTRACT WITH THE STATE THAT ALLOWS THEM TO UNDERGO AGAIN THE THREE BIDS. SO I WHAT I DID WAS SEND THEM THIS BUNDLE OF HOMES AND THEN THEY WHICH SORRY I GAVE THEM THE BUNDLE OF TEN HOMES AND THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THEIR LIST CONTRACTORS IN THE CONTRACTS THAT WERE ABLE TO COME OUT AND LOOK WHICH I

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I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THEM THIS JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHERE THEY ARE ON THINGS AND SEE IF WE MOVE ON WITH THESE THREE HOMES. SO I GET I GUESS I LIKE TO SOMEHOW KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY LOCAL WHO ARE ON THE LIST. I KNOW YOU HAD THE BLACK BLANKET CONTRACTOR AND I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE NATIVE CONTRACTORS BUILDERS REPAIR PEOPLE WHO I'VE SPOKEN WITH THAT SAY THEY EITHER ATTEMPTED OR OTHERWISE WOULD LIKE TO GET ON THE LIST WHO CAN DO THE WORK. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO WHETHER WE HAD ANY OF THE LOCAL CONTRACTORS NATIVE CONTRACTORS WHO HAVE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THEIR QUALIFICATIONS TO BE ON THE LIST THEY ARE ON THE QUESTION YES WE HAVE OUR VERIFIED LIST AND DO HAVE NATIVE ISLAND CONTRACTORS ON THERE AND AGAIN WHICH I HAVE SENT OUT THESE BUNDLES TO AND I HAVE HEARD BACK FROM COUPLE THAT THEY HAVE GONE OUT I'M JUST WAITING ON ESTIMATES NOW THEM IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO AWARD A FOR THESE THREE HOMES SO YEAH I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT BECAUSE I'VE SPOKEN WITH SOME PEOPLE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO GET WHAT CONTRACTORS THEY MEAN WHAT KIND OF WAITING TO HEAR I GUESS FROM YOUR OFFICE ABOUT THAT PROCESS AND THEY WERE MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN INSURANCE THINGS LIKE THAT AND IT'S KIND OF TRICKY OUT THERE WITH HIRING LABOR AND NOT HOW MUCH LABOR TO HIRE IF THEY DON'T HAVE AN IDEA THE CONTRACT CERTAINLY THEY'RE NOT AWARDED IT YET BUT I THINK WE HEAR THEY'RE HEARING MORE FROM US NOW IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND. YES.

AND THE OTHER PART OF THE QUESTION WAS DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE CONTRACTORS THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED ARE NATIVE ISLANDS? THOSE ARE LOCALS THAT WE HAVE IT'S THE TEN HOMES WERE WITH THE ONE CONTRACT WITH GORDON. SO WHILE WE HAVE AWARDED ANY CONTRACTS TO NATIVE ISLANDERS YET AGAIN I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY ESTIMATES TO THE ONES THAT I HAVE SENT OUT TO THEM SO I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO AWARD ANYTHING BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT KIND OF . CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT KIND OF WORK IS BEING YOU KNOW OF CONTRACT WORKERS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW WE ARE SEEING LOT OF ROOF REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE DONE DECK DECK REPAIRS RAILING, JUST FLOORING IN GENERAL WHETHER IT'S KITCHENS, THE HOME WE ALSO HAVE A FEW WINDOW REPAIRS THAT HAPPEN BUT MAINLY ROOFING AND WE'VE NOTICED THAT WITH A LOT OF THE HOMES THAT NEED ROOFING IT IS GOING TO BE THEIR MAIN WORK. MOST THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE GOING TO THE ROOFING SO EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE PUTTING A LOT OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT WORK THAT THEY NEED DONE WE ONLY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO ROOFING, FLOORING OR DECKING. WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING AT ONCE BUT IT IS A PROGRAM THAT THEY CAN REAPPLY FOR IN THE FOLLOWING AND THAT PROGRAM HAS THAT WORK WELL THOSE FUNDS ARE IN DO WE GET A NEW BATCH OF WE USE WHAT'S LEFT OVER OF WE GET NEW NEW FUNDING $100,000 PER FISCAL YEAR OR 200,000 I'M SORRY.

WELL, WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE BUDGET AND SO THE NEW BUDGET WILL GO TO FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL AND WE'RE SEEKING $200,000 TO EXTEND THE PROGRAM .

I'M SORRY I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. THAT'S OKAY.

YES, I DID. I DID. I DID SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY IS THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING GORDIAN YES. SO GOING IN HAS ACTUALLY BEEN

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OKAY. I MEAN SO ONCE HE GETS THOSE HE'LL BE ABLE TO START AND WE'RE LOOKING HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS OR SO. I CAN'T GUARANTEE THE SPECIFIC TIMELINE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. YEAH AND QUESTIONS VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. NICK DE THE NEXT ITEM THAT I HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS THE OPEN POSITIONS UPDATE AND THAT IS CHRISTIAN. NO I DON'T HAVE ANY A LOT TO SAY ABOUT MISSY MIGHT YOU KNOW HAVE SOME UPDATES ON INTERVIEWS AND SUCH HAVE BEEN GOING ON SO WE'RE JUST PROVIDING YOU KNOW AN ONGOING LIST OF YOU KNOW, WHAT POSITIONS ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AS YOU CAN AT THE TOP OF WHAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET FOR THIS ITEM WE HIRED YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN HIRING ACROSS THE AND SO AND WE HAVE IT ALSO IN THE COUNTY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS WE'VE HIRED A COUPLE A FEW NEW CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE MANAGER POSITION HAS BEEN FILLED AND THE PERSON HAS STARTED WHICH HAS BEEN WONDERFUL AND THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE MANAGER IS OVER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INFORMATION CENTER SO THE FOLKS IN THE FRONT WHEN YOU COME IN TO TOWN HALL WHO DEAL WITH PERMITS AND MOBILE HOME PLACEMENT AND YOU KNOW SMALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT MOST OF THOSE APPLICATIONS THAT FOLKS ARE DOING SO THAT IS GOING TO HELP OUR PROCESS IS A LOT OF YOU KNOW HAVING HIRED THAT PERSON AND THEN STARTING OTHER OTHER NOW ANY QUESTIONS OR UPDATES THAT YOU WANTED TO RECEIVE ABOUT THIS QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER I'LL SET AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S IT OKAY THIS SECTION WAS ALL RIGHT SET UP ON THE STAFF REPORT YOU KNOW JUST MINUTE TO ASK IF ANYONE IN OUR PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE AS A REQUEST COMMENT ABOUT ANY OF THESE ITEMS UNDER THE STAFF REPORT DID NOT PASS AT EACH ONE OF THE ITEMS BUT HAVE OUR STAFF

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I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE THIS TOPIC FIRST AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO YOU MS..

LUANA BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE JUST SOME GOOD NEWS AND SOME OFFICIAL WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AROUND DELINQUENT TAX AND HEIRS PROPERTY AS RELATED TO THE GEECHEE CULTURAL PRESERVATION PROJECT REPORT. SO WE'VE BEEN WITH HERITAGE LIBRARY AND LOWCOUNTRY GULLAH YOU KNOW THROUGHOUT TIME WE'VE GOT AN OFFICIAL CONTRACT WITH LOWCOUNTRY GULLAH TO PROVIDE MORE IN-DEPTH, YOU KNOW, SERVICES AND THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH AND GOING ALONGSIDE OF THAT ORGANIZATION TO BE ABLE TO MORE FULLY RESPOND AND PROVIDE EXPERTIZE TO FOLKS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, INQUIRING ABOUT DISENTANGLING AREAS, PROPERTY ISSUES OR SUPPORT AND HELP WITH DELINQUENT DELINQUENT TAXES. SO I'LL LET LUANA SHARE MORE ABOUT WHAT THOSE SERVICES WILL LOOK LIKE AND YOU HAVE AN INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL. AND ONE ITEM THAT I JUST WANT TO WELL I WAS GOING TO PUT SOME EMPHASIS ON SOMETHING THAT I FORGOT WHAT THE EMPHASIS SO NOT QUITE NECESSARY BUT I'LL HAND OVER TO THE ONE SAYING THE ONE THAT WAS YESTERDAY THAT IN FACT I DON'T THINK MY VOICE IS READY FOR IT TODAY SO I'M ALL SUNG OUT FOR FOR TODAY. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO MAYBE YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY BUT JUST DON'T INTRODUCE AND YOUR POSITION AND YOUR STATUS AND YOUR LUANA GRAVES SELLERS FOUNDER THE LOWCOUNTRY GULLAH FOUNDATION WHICH WORKS TOWARDS UNTANGLING HEIRS PROPERTY AS WELL AS ASSISTING GULLAH FAMILY OWNERS WHO ARE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH PAYING THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS AND THE THE PROCESS THAT WE

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I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PARTS OF THE ISSUE THAT EXISTS AS WELL AS HAVING A WORKSHOP WITH WITH LINDA AND THE CENTER AND THE LIBRARY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET AN ON HOW TO UNRAVEL THE THE FAMILY TREE AND IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENT HEIRS BECAUSE THAT IS THE FIRST STOP IN TRYING TO RESOLVE THINGS. SO WE DO HAVE A HEAVY CALENDAR THAT IS COMING UP ONCE DATES AND TIMES AND LOCATIONS ARE SOLIDIFIED I WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU AND TO LET YOU KNOW TOO I RAN INTO THIS LESS TWO WEEKS AGO.

THERE'S A SCAM GOING AROUND AND THIS PERSON OR PEOPLE ARE TARGETING PROPERTIES.

SO THE SITUATION WAS THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT FOUND THE HEIRS PROPERTY CALLED AN ELDERLY REALTOR THAT REALTOR LISTED THE PROPERTY AND HAD THREE OFFERS ON IT AND COME TO FIND OUT THAT PERSON NEVER OWNED THE PROPERTY SO I HAD TO CONTACT THE RELATIVES THEY TALKED TO THE REALTOR HAD PROOF AND THEY TOOK THAT PROPERTY OFF THE MARKET. SO IF I DID NOT CONTACT THEM THAT REALTOR WOULD HAVE SOLD THAT PROPERTY AND THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE GONE AWAY AND GET THAT MONEY SOMEHOW. SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THERE'S A SCAM THERE AND IT'S HAPPENING THAT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME AND UNFORTUNATE LEE SCENARIOS NOT SPECIFICALLY LIKE BUT DIFFERENT KINDS OF SCENARIOS DO HAPPEN ON A REGULAR BASIS AND SWITCHING TO TO THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH THE JOINT COMMITTEE ON THE STUDY OF VARIOUS TRYING TO PROTECT PEOPLE SO THAT INFORMATION AND DETAIL WAS LIKE THAT IS NOT AS READILY ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY NECESSARY BECAUSE AND I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED IT PREVIOUSLY BUT LEAST IN BEAUFORT COUNTY IF IF I WANTED TO HAVE YOUR TAX BILL SENT TO ME ALL I HAVE TO DO IS CALL AND SAY TO THE TAX OFFICE THAT I'M AN INTERESTED PARTY THERE ARE

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WELL, RESOLUTION IS IS AT OUR FOUNDATION. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO BE A BAND-AID. WE DON'T WANT THE EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY YOUR TAXES. SEE YOU NEXT YEAR AND WE'LL BE BACK TO HAVE YOUR TAXES PAID WE THROUGH OUR VETTING PROCESS A VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT A DO THEY HAVE A NEED YOU KNOW FINANCIALLY BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER THE REASON WHY THEY'RE NEEDING THE FINANCIAL IS IS RESOLVED SO WHATEVER THE NEEDS ARE BASED ON SITUATION BY SITUATION THAT'S THAT'S HOW WE'RE FOCUSING ON ON MAKING SURE THE THING THAT'S IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION IT THANK YOU AS THE QUESTIONS FOR ALL OF WHAT I DO ON HELLO IS GOING TO HAVE ANY HELLO ON THE WHEN YOU DO HAVE THE WELLS CLINIC HOW LIKELY ARE PEOPLE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR WILLS OR WILL THEY BE ABLE TO GET WILLS DONE AT THAT TIME OR IS THIS PRIMARILY EDUCATIONAL ENDEAVOR AT THIS POINT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO WALK IN THE DOOR, SIT DOWN WITH AN ATTORNEY, HAVE PRIVATE CONVERSATION AND WALK OUT WITH A WILL, OKAY.

AND THAT IS THE GOAL? YES. DID YOU EVER ASK THEM IF THEY COULD DO TRUST? THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CONVERSATIONALLY A WORKSHOP ON HAVING TRUSTS IS IS PART OF THE HEIRS PROPERTY CONVERSATION BUT ESTABLISHING TRUSTS I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE CAN IN IF AN ATTORNEY COULD DO THAT IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF SO THAT THEY COULD WALK IN AND WALK OUT WITH IT THAT'S. A QUESTION THAT I WILL DEFINITELY ASK BUT BUT YES THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THAT IS WITHIN THE LONG LIST OF DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT THAT WE ADDRESS. YEAH. CIRCUMSTANCE FIRST OF ALL KUDOS TO THE TOWN FOR HAVING THE FORESIGHT TO HIRE GO TO THE LOWCOUNTRY GOLF FOUNDATION FOR FOR THIS ASSISTANCE THIS WONDERFUL YOU'RE THE EXPERT BRINGING THE EXPERTS AT ALL MAKE IT HELP FACILITATE THE PROCESS MUCH BETTER I NOTED THAT THERE'S FOUR POINTS THAT WHERE YOUR ORGANIZATION'S GOING TO HELP THE TOWN ARE THEY ARE DIRECTLY CORRELATED WITH FOUR POINTS ON THE GO AND GETTING CULTURAL PRESERVATION PROJECT REPORT OR IS IT KIND OF A MIXED WITH ALL WITHIN ALL OF THOSE 36 ITEMS WELL THE THE LIST THAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT IS OUR IS OUR SCOPE OF SERVICES IS IS BASED ON THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF WHAT WE DO IN THE PROCESS TO HANDLE HEIRS PROPERTY. SO IF IN THE PART OF THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS THAT WE'VE KIND OF STREAMLINED A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIFFERENT AREAS BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE HERITAGE LIBRARY SO THAT IT'S MORE ONE STOP SHOPPING SO TO SPEAK VERSUS.

I HAVE TO CALL HERE I HAVE TO CALL THERE. I HAVE TO CALL HERE THE FOUNDATION IS IS MORE THE CENTRAL I'S GO TO AND THEN FROM THERE BASED ON THE NEED AND THE VERIFICATION PROCESS THAT WE HAVE THEN THEN WE CAN THEN FORWARD PEOPLE ON TO WHEREVER DIRECTION THEY NEED TO GO. GOTCHA. SECOND AND THE ANSWER TO THE LITTLE BIT MORE YEAH IT'S A GREAT QUESTION TO KNOW TIE THIS INTO THE REPORT AND YEAH THIS DOES DIRECTLY ALIGN WITH THE HEIRS PROPERTY RECOMMENDATIONS 123 AND FOUR AND THEN THAT ALSO YOU KNOW RELATES TO THE HERITAGE LIBRARY'S ROLE IN THIS AS WELL.

SO THEY'RE STILL WE'RE STILL PARTNERING WITH THE HERITAGE LIBRARY AND JUST, YOU KNOW, REALLY LEANING ON LOOKING FOR HER EXPERTIZE AND CLAIRE AND JUST KIND OF LIKE STREAMLINING

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SO AS WE RESOURCES AND EXPERTIZE LET'S JUST WORK TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO BEST BE ACCOMPLISHED THAT THAT'S WHAT THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION IN THIS IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN ANSWER BUT JUST IN GENERAL OF OF ALL OF OUR PROPERTY THAT THAT ARE IN THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GOING TO OWN PROPERTY WHAT PERCENT WOULD BE CONSIDERED HEIRS PROPERTY WHAT PERCENT WOULD BE WOULD YOU TIME SO WE'RE CHUCKLING BECAUSE THAT IS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION AND IT'S A VERY HARD ONE TO ANSWER.

LIKE YOU SAID, WE WE DO NOT HAVE ANSWER RIGHT NOW BUT WE ARE TRYING TO GET IT.

IT'S ON IT'S ON ALL OF OUR MINDS. IT IS SOMEHOW EMBEDDED IN THE DATA WILL BE COMING THROUGH. WE JUST GOT THE TOWN JUST GOT THE GUYS DATA WITH ALL THIS INFORMATION AND WHERE WE WILL BE TRYING CANNOT PROMISE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO TO YOU KNOW, REALLY GET A FIRM ON THAT BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO KNOW THAT JUST BECAUSE OF YOU KNOW THAT HOW FAR IT GOES BACK AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED AND AND WHOSE IS ON THE TAX BILL AND WHOSE NAME IS ON THE ON THE PROPERTY WHEN WE GET THAT INFORMATION WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND IT'S ON OUR MINDS AND WE'LL BE FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO AND IF THERE'S A IF THERE'S NOT A WAY WE CAN'T GET AN EXACT ANSWER HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET ABOUT OR SOME SORT OF ESTIMATE BY NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

YEAH I THAT'S A CHALLENGING QUESTION FOR FOR A LOT OF REASONS THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD ADD THAT SHOULD PROBABLY UNDERSTAND CERTAINLY ABOUT HEIRS PROPERTY AND CERTAINLY TAX ASSISTANCE AND WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO IDENTIFY PROPERTIES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE EITHER GULLAH OWNED OR IN HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS, MANY HAVE PROBABLY CHANGED HANDS MOST LIKELY SO THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY JUST BY THE NAME ON THE ON THE TAX BILL ALL OF AYR'S PROPERTY IS NOT JUST IN NATIVE PROPERTIES AREAS IT CAN BE IN SEA PINES OR METAL DUNES OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

PROPERTY CAN HAPPEN JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE. THE PIECE THAT I'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE LOWCOUNTRY GOING WHAT LUANN IS DOING IS THE EDUCATION PIECES.

HOW DO WE STOP THE TREND OF FALLING INTO HEIRS PROPERTY ? WE NOTICE THAT MOSTLY IN OUR CULTURE BUT LIKE I SAY IT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE BUT WE NOTICE THAT A LOT IN OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND CERTAINLY IN OUR GULLAH CULTURE IT IS A PART OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. THE OTHER PART OF YOUR ANSWER IS YES, IT VERY MUCH RELATED TO THE RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE WITHIN THOSE RECOMMENDATION WE SAID THAT WE WOULD NEED TO REACH TO OUTSIDE RESOURCES TO HELP US WITH THIS BEST FOR US AS A TAX FORCE AND EVEN THE TOWN STAFF CERTAINLY AN ORGANIZATION THAT ARE IN THE GRASSROOTS IT'S EVEN BETTER THEY'VE GOT THEIR FEET ON THE GROUND. THEY'VE GOT THEIR EARS TO THE GROUND. WE GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE AND WE KIND OF GET TO KNOW THE SITUATIONS SO JUST TO KIND OF ADD A LITTLE SOMETHING TO THAT YES IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED QUESTION AND PROBABLY EVEN MORE COMPLICATED AND SO A LOT OF TIMES AND IF I SEE THAT RIGHT. YES AND IF I CAN JUST FOLLOW UP TO THAT, I DON'T THINK THERE WILL EVER BE A PERFECT 100% ANSWER. I THINK BASED ON REALLY GOOD ESTIMATION WE CAN KIND OF GET THERE BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY'RE LIVING ON THEIR PROPERTY UNTIL THEY THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE PROPERTY SO THAT ITSELF CREATES A WHOLE LEVEL OF SURETY THAT EXISTS WHERE THEREPROPERTIES THS IDENTIFIED HEIRS OR PEOPLE LIST THEIR PROPERTY AS HEIRS OF THEN YOU KNOW THE COUNTY IS STARTING TO COMPILE THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND AS WELL AS BASED ON SPECIFIC POCKETS NEIGHBORHOODS THERE THERE THERE ARE LISTS YOU KNOW NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD BUT WILL THERE EVER BE A SPECIFIC NO.

I ALSO DO KNOW THAT ON THE STATE LEVEL THAT IS ONE OF THE TOP ISSUES THAT THEY WANT TO ADDRESS IS TO FIND OUT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE HOW MUCH HEIRS PROPERTY DOES EXIST.

SO I MEAN WE'RE DOING IT LOCALLY BUT IT WILL BE DONE. IT'S GOING TO BE A TOP DOWN THING AS WELL TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE COUNTY'S LISTS ARE BASED ON THE LISTS AND

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THANK YOU. OKAY. I FIND WE'RE DOWN TO THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CHAIRMAN DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE GET THERE? ANYBODY THE PUBLIC HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE SEE YET SO ENJOY IT. MAKE NO BONES I IT KNOW THAT SENATOR TOM DAVIS WOULD BE THE LIBRARIAN THREE TODAY TODAY IN DISCUSSION ON HATE YOU GO AHEAD ABOUT DISCIPLINE FOCUSING ON THAT BUT WE KNOW AS THERE WERE THERE WERE LITERALLY NOT TWO S AND SO QUESTION EVERYBODY HAVE GOT TO GET INTO IT WE ASKED YOU CAN WE DEFINITELY GOOD THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK VERY GOOD. YES, SIR.

HUNDRED PERCENT PROPERTY STORY . OKAY.

AND I SEE IT AFTER YOU TELL US ABOUT IT. NO, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T SEE THAT EITHER. HE WAS ASKING ME ABOUT THE STORY WAS ON PBS ABOUT LOW COUNTRY GOVERNMENT FROM FEATURED AND IT WAS A PREMIER SHOWING YESTERDAY AT RUBY LEE'S DO YOU WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT WITH US? YEAH SURE YOU DO.

YOU KNOW HE REALLY PUT ME ON THE SPOT TO I WANT TO KNOW WELL THANK YOU.

YES. MY DOCUMENT HONOREE HARRIET TUBMAN FROM THE RAILROAD TO THE SPY HAD ITS BROADCAST PREMIERE LAST NIGHT ON PBS. IT IS SHOWING AGAIN TONIGHT AT 8:00. SO IF YOU MISSED IT YESTERDAY YOU CAN DEFINITELY IT OR AND IT'S ALSO AIRING ON THE 15TH AND YES I'M EXTRAORDINARILY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND HAPPY THAT PART OF THE HARRIET TUBMAN STORY INCLUDES HILTON HEAD AND SO THE FACT THAT IT IS OUT THERE AND PUTTING THE HILTON HEAD STORY IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FOR PEOPLE IS IS REALLY PART OF THE EXCITEMENT THAT I HAVE THAT MORE PEOPLE KNOW THAT HARRIET WAS HERE AND SO SO THANK YOU FOR THAT DEFINITELY. OKAY WE'RE DOWN TO THE LAST PART OF THAT AND AGAIN I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE GOAL OF GETTING THE CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE IS A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE ARE DOING THE WORK TRYING TO HELP PRESERVE THIS CULTURE AS IT WAS IDENTIFIED BY TOWN COUNCIL SEVERAL YEARS AGO AS A PRIORITY AND THAT THERE WAS A THREAT TO THE CULTURE HERE ON THE ISLAND A LOT THE POLICIES AND THINGS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE IS AFFECTING OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT I WANT TO SAY JUST AS CHAIRMAN OF THE GALLERY TO ALLOW THE CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVEN FURTHERMORE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TOTAL COMMUNITY THAT WE REPRESENT EVERYONE ON THIS TOWN THAT HAS A HEART AND DESIRE FOR CULTURAL PRESERVATION SOMETIMES THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE BUT.

I'M CONFIDENT IN THE STAFF HERE AT THE TOWN I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN MY TOWN COUNCIL WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS SINCE WE PASSED THIS TASK FORCE FORUM. IF YOU KNOW WHAT ISSUES OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE THAT NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IN THE TOWN I'M PLEASED DIRECT THEM TOWARD THE TASK FORCE. I CERTAINLY TAUGHT OUR STAFF OR ANY OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AGAIN I WANT TO THANK OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR BEING HERE.

COUNCILWOMAN BACA AND COUNCILMAN BROWN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR ATTENTION AND WITH THAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ALWAYS RECOGNIZE MR. BARNWELL, ONE OF MY DEAREST FRIENDS AND MENTORS AND FOR SHARING YOUR WISDOM AND SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS.

THANK YOU COUNSELOR CHICK FOR BEING HERE AS WELL AND WITH THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN MOTIVE FOR ADJOURNMENT. WE FIND OURSELVES ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND GOOD AFTERNOON

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.