[IX 1. Consideration of Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee Funding Recommendations for Quarter Ending December 31, 2022 - Natalie Majorkiewicz, Assistant Director of Finance]

NOT. SO WE ARE GOING GET ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF THE TABLE AND OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS CONSIDERATION OF ACCOMMODATION IN TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE HAVE THAT IS GOING TO COME FORWARD OVER THE APPLICATION AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO PUT THIS MONEY BACK OUT INTO THE UNIT SAID THANK YOU THANK YOU GOOD EVENING MAYOR WE HAVE THE QUARTER ENDING DECEMBER 31ST 18 APPLICATIONS PRESENTED FOR CONSIDERATION THERE WERE THREE APPLICANTS THIS QUARTER HOW MANY BLOCKS CONSERVANCY THE ROTARY CLUB OF HILTON HEAD OR I'M SORRY A BLUFFTON ALL TIME LEFT AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR A TOTAL OF 64,000 ARE BEING REQUESTED FOR EIGHT TEXANS CURRENTLY THERE IS OVER $2.6 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR FUNDING WHICH SPLIT BETWEEN STATE AND LOCAL ACCOMMODATIONS TAXES.

THE FIRST APPLICANT FOR CONSIDERATION IS THE POMONA BLOCK CONSERVANCY.

THEY'RE REQUESTING $35,000 TO SUPPORT THE DEPUTY BOAT TOUR PROGRAM THAT THEY ARE BEGINNING AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I KNOW THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE KIND OF DOING A PRESENTATION IT SO IF IT'S WORKING OKAY KEEP GOING AND KEEP THROUGH AND THEN WE'LL TAKE VOTES. LET'S LET'S LEAVE IT UP HERE AND DO IT ON THAT LINE AND YOU'RE DOING GREAT. I'LL INSERT YOUR QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT IS HERE C.J. MUST BE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT. SHOULD HE HAVE QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION? THIS PERSON WITH SOME GOOD SO LET'S MAKE IT EASY. SO WE HAVE THE PAYMENT OF CONSERVANCY FOR TOURS IN THAT REQUESTED 35,000 THE OUT RIGHT AND THEN IT WAS 30,000 SUBMISSION AND TO ACCEPT SOME OF THEIR SECOND SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THE FAVOR STATEMENT SAYING I I OPPOSED THAT YOU NEEDED TO AGREE TO YES YES THIS IS OUR INITIAL REQUEST FOR MANIFEST AND THEY'RE REQUESTING $15,000 TO SUPPORT ADVERTISING, SECURITY AND TOURIST TRANSPORTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY TEST ON SO THE ROTARY CLUB OF BLUFFTON THAT THAT REQUEST WAS 15,000 AND OUT RECOMMENDED IT WAS 15,000 IS ZERO SORRY SORRY I DID HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF THANK YOU FOR US MR. GOOD IS RECUSING HIMSELF AND YOU NEED TO SIGN A PAPER FROM JEFF. OKAY SO WITH THAT ONE RECUSAL THERE FOR US, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE YOUR SECOND 1/2. ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR START BY SAYING I OPPOSED THAT MR. WOOD NEXT IS OLD TOWN WHAT THAT MERCHANTS OF SOCIETY THIS IS OUR ANNUAL REQUEST THEY'RE REQUESTING $14,000 TO SUPPORT THEIR PROJECT FOR ADVERTISING BUT NOT THE DESTINATION AND THERE'S A REQUESTED AMOUNT OF 14,000 FOR OLD TOWN BLOCK EMERGENT SOCIETY IN ABOUT 3 MINUTES 14,000 SIR MOTION TO ACCEPT SO THE SECOND SO ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF SAYING I OPPOSED UNIONS I THINK NATALIE THIS YEAR A PLAN TO GET ALL OF OUR NONPROFIT OUTFITS BACK TO TALK ABOUT APPLYING AND REALLY A TAX YES SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO ANOTHER WORKSHOP IS PLANNED FOR THE FOR THE SUMMER AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO GET WHOEVER WANTS TO COME IN AND ASK QUESTIONS AND SEE ALL IS ENTAILED WITH THE APPLICATION.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET A GOOD TURNOUT FOR THAT AND WE DO TRY BUT WE DO POST EVERYTHING IN THE NEWSPAPERS AND WE TRY AND POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA BUT WE'LL LOOK AT THAT OUT AS WELL.

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NONSENSE. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.

AND NEW REQUESTS COME IN. YES I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHRIS WAS HERE OUR CHAIR SO AND I SEE HER BACK THERE SHE DOESN'T RUN OUT YET GIRL HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD ANY KIND OF RUCKUS AROUND HERE UNTIL J.K. LET'S NOT IF YOU DON'T LIKE CHANGE, WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT TODAY FOR THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW JAY WILEY, HE HE IS YOUR TITLE OF THE DIRECTOR OF THE CONCERT OF ACTUALLY WORKED ON FEBRUARY 3RD TWO YEARS THIS IS I REMEMBER WHEN YOU GOT THERE IT IS A GREAT SUMMARY OF AN AMAZING OF PROPERTY SO IF YOU

[IX 2. Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Town of Bluffton FY 2023 Budget to Provide for the Expenditures of Certain Funds and to Allocate Sources of Revenue for the Said Funds – Second and Final Reading – Chris Forster, Assistant Town Manager]

COULD KEEP BUSY JOE THANK YOU. NEXT NUMBER TWO UNDER FORMAL ITEMS CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AND MAYBE THE TOWN OF LOST IN 2023 BUDGET TO PROVIDE FOR EXPENDITURES CERTAIN, FUNDS AND ALLOCATE SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR SAID FUNDS.

THIS IS SECOND READING THERE WEREN'T ANY CHANGES THE FIRST READING WE ALL HAVE QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER CONCERNS DEBT AND WE INCLUDED THE 20 HOUR DOLLAR PROBLEM SETTLEMENT INCLUSION OF RAISING MR. HAMILTON IS INCLUDED IN THE SUPPLEMENT IN QUESTION PERTAINING QUESTIONS.

THIS IS NOT A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND AND FINAL READING OF AN ORDINANCE MEANING THE TOWN OF LONDON FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET TO PROVIDE FOR EXPENDITURES OF CERTAIN FUNDS AND TO ALLOCATE SOURCES OF REVENUE FOR THE SAID FUNDS SOME OF THEIR SECOND SO ANY DISCUSSION ALL THE FAVOR STATE BY HIGH OPPOSED SENIOR US NEXT ON THE AGENDA NUMBER THREE

[IX 3. Consideration of Approval of an Amendment to the Master Plan for Village at Verdier within the Village at Verdier Planned Unit Development to Remove a Previously Approved Residential Access Point and a Previously Approved Road on Approximately 124.2 Acres Located East of SC Highway 170 at Seagrass Station Road – Kevin Icard, Director of Growth Management]

UNDER FORMAL ITEMS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER PLAN FOR VILLAGE DEER WITHIN THE VILLAGE WOULD BE REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT TO REMOVE A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED RESIDENT FOR ACCESS POINT AND A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ROAD APPROXIMATELY 124.2 ACRES LOCATED EAST OF SOUTH CAROLINA HIGHWAY 70 AT SEA GROVE STATION RAY CAVETT GOOD EVENING EVENING MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO AS YOU JUST STATED THIS THIS APPLICATION BEFORE YOU FOR THE VILLAGE OF DEER ALSO KNOWN AS SEAGRASS STATION FROM AN AERIAL STANDPOINT YOU SEE A HIGHLIGHT OF THE THE PROPERTY IN YELLOW SURROUNDING IT IS PROPERTIES THAT'S OWNED BY COUNTY. THERE'S OF THE OKATIE THE HEADWATERS AND THEN SUN CITY TO THE WEST HERE IS JUST ANOTHER AERIAL SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE PROPERTY WHAT'S NOT SHOWN IS THAT THERE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT THIS IS AN OLDER AERIAL SO JUST JUST THAT THE AREA RIGHT HERE THAT I'M HIGHLIGHTING IS WHERE THE CROWN 170 APARTMENT COMPLEX IS LOCATED. I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE.

FIRST OFF, THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN THIS IS TO THE SOUTH IS OWNED BY COUNTY THAT'S, FORMERLY THE KENT ESTATES WHICH WAS A PROPERTY THAT WAS EXTINGUISHED.

THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ARE THEN PUT INTO THE DENSITY BANK AND THAT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR PRESERVE BEHIND YOU HAVE PROPERTY ALSO OWNED BY COUNTY AND THAT'S THE OKATIE REGIONAL AND THAT IS PART OF THE BUCKWALTER PD BAY AND PARK EVEN FURTHER OFF SUN CITY DOWN HERE AND THEN JUST SOME OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES HAVE A MIXED USE DESIGNATION ARE IN THE COUNTY AGAIN FROM SUPERIOR YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE THE COUNTY PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THIS THIS IS A COPY OF THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN I'M GOING JUST KIND OF RUN THROUGH THIS QUICKLY HERE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THIS PLAN AND.

THEN HERE THE FIRST THE FIRST MODIFICATION IS THE REMOVAL OF THE ROAD THAT I HAVE SHOWN HERE THIS IS THE EXISTING PLAN OF A PROPOSED ROAD THEY'RE PROPOSING TO JUST JUST BRING THAT LINE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER FOR THAT FOR THE COLOR WHAT WILL IS THE OVERALL DENSITY THAT'S IN THIS PAD IS NOT CHANGING SO EVEN THOUGH THE LINES ON THIS PAPER SHOW THAT IT IS INCREASING THEY HAVE THERE'S A TOTAL 404,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DENSITY ASSOCIATED WITH VILLAGE OF DEER. SO THAT NUMBER DOES NOT CHANGE EACH OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE RIGHTS THAT ARE DESIGNATED TO THAT I DON'T HAVE THAT THE LOGO FOR THIS PROPERTY RUN OFF TIME HEAD BUT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO OVER THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED FOR WHAT THIS DOES IS THAT IT THE APPLICANT WOULD LONGER JUST HAVE A PROPOSED ROAD BUT AS THIS SITE WERE DEVELOPED THEY WOULD STILL PROVIDE AN INTERNAL CIRCULATION SO IT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF A DRIVEWAY, IT COULD BE A DRIVE THE PARKING LOT BUT NOT NECESSARILY A TWO LANE ROAD THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON THE

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EXISTING PLAN. AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM SPECIFICALLY FOR THE APPLICANT LOOKING TO REMOVE THE VEHICULAR ACCESS POINTS AGAIN YOU CAN SEE ON THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN THAT THERE WAS A WRITE IN RIGHT OUT ONLY ON HIGHWAY 170 TO ACCESS THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THEN ULTIMATELY INTO THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT THIS BE A THE HECHLER EMERGENCY GATED ACCESS ONLY ALSO THIS IS NOT IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IS FROM SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT VERY RECENTLY THEY'RE AMENABLE TO PROVIDING A PEDESTRIAN BIKE ACCESS THROUGH A PORTION OF PROPERTY THAT WOULD THEN STILL PROVIDE ACCESS FOR RESIDENTS TO GET FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE OUTSIDE AND ULTIMATELY TO HIGHWAY 170 AND POTENTIALLY TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IF IN THE FUTURE COUNTY WERE TO DO SOME TYPE OF PARK OR PASSIVE PARK THERE THIS IS A SCHEMATIC OF THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSING.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY THIS SITE PLAN IS JUST BY REVIEWING THIS AND IF THERE'S THIS MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED THAT DOES NOT APPROVE THIS SITE PLAN BUT IT GIVES YOU A VISUAL TO SEE THAT HIGHWAY 70 IS HERE AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE THIS YELLOW HERE REPRESENTS THE ABILITY TO HAVE EMERGENCY ACCESS SO THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE GATES HERE.

SO IT IS GATED. THE RED LINE JUST REPRESENTS FROM A CONCEPTUAL STANDPOINT THE ABILITY TO HAVE A A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION THROUGH TO HAGLER DRIVE HERE AND THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS ALONG THE SIDE. THIS RIGHT HERE IS A 50 FOOT BUFFER IT'S AN ATTACHED BUFFER ALONG THE SIDE WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE COUNTY PROPERTY AND IT ULTIMATELY WILL ACCESS OUT TO THE PATHWAY ALONG 170. WHILE THE APPLICANT WAS PROPOSING THESE AMENDMENTS WE ASKED THEM MAKE SOME UPDATES TO THIS MASTER PLAN TO REFLECT WAS ACTUALLY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE ONE AT A TIME.

SO THE FIRST ITEM WAS I'LL WITH OVER HERE THIS IS TO THE NORTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT THE PREVIOUS PLAN SHOWED A CONNECTION TO THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT'S IN COUNTY THE ONE I REFER TO AS THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IT WHILE IT DOES NOT SHOW AN ACCESS POINT ON HERE WE ASKED THAT THE APPLICANT JUST PUT THAT ACCESS BACK ON THERE AND IT MIGHT BE IN THE FORM OF A STRAIGHT LINE OR LINE THAT WOULD THEN STILL IN THE FUTURE PROVIDE ACCESS THE PROPERTY THE FRONT HERE IS UNDEVELOPED SO THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE AND THERE'S NOTHING PRECLUDING THEM FROM ACTUALLY HAVING A CONNECTION IN THE FUTURE SO I WAS JUST ON OUR PART FOR NOT RECOGNIZING THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY STILL SHOW THAT ACCESS SO THAT THE ACCESS SHOWS BACK UP ONTO THIS MASTER YES SIR. MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YES SIR. SO THE ROAD THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD THE CONNECTOR OVER TO THE NEXT PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE WEST IT APPEARS THAT FROM THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE'S A THREE CAR GARAGE BUILT. YOU FOLLOW THE STRAIGHT LINE THAT COULD BE OFF BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A STRAIGHT ROAD WOULD RUN INTO A THREE CAR GARAGE WHICH WOULD BLOCK THAT ROUTE. SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY WOULD HAVE TO JUST CURVE AROUND A MASTER CURVE AROUND THE BACK OF IT? YES.

YES, YES, SIR. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER ONE THAT WE HAD REQUESTED FOR THEM TO MAKE UPDATES TO ITEM NUMBER TWO PREVIOUS PLANS SHOWED PARK SPACE THAT WAS CARVED OUT SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE EXISTING PLAN THE PARK SPACES HAS BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX SO THERE'S WALKING TRAILS THERE'S RECREATIONAL USES IN THERE. SO FROM FROM A USE STANDPOINT THEY THEY WERE ABLE TO ABSORB THOSE PARK INTO THAT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS I SHOULD THEY HAVE AND NOW AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE INDIVIDUALS TO ABLE TO TO USE THAT SPACE SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS REFLECTED AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM WAS THAT PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS A CONNECTION THAT PROPERTY THAT IS NOW OWNED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY AND WHEN I DID THIS I KIND OF BLOW IT UP RIGHT HERE THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE INITIALLY LIKE WOULD COME ACROSS INTO WHAT WAS ESTATES AT THE TIME AND SINCE KENT'S ESTATES EXTINGUISHED THE PROPERTY TURNED TO PRESERVE THE NEED FOR THAT ROAD WAS WAS WAS NO LONGER THERE I ALSO TO TO POINT OUT THAT CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY ARE TWO COUNTY STORMWATER PONDS THESE PONDS

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ARE DESIGNED TO COLLECT RUNOFF OF 170 AS WELL AS HIGHER UP TO CLEAN WATER BEFORE IT HITS THE HEADWATERS TO THE OKATIE. SO THESE ARE THESE PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH IN THE PAST ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND AS YOU CAN SEE YOU'RE JUST THERE HELPING TO CLEAN THE WATER FOR DISCHARGE WHICH WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY OF NOT HAVING THAT CONNECTION SHOWN AT THAT POINT. SO AGAIN, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE'VE REQUESTED FOR THE APPLICANT WHILE THEY WERE WHILE WE WERE MAKING THESE AMENDMENTS LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLEAN THIS DOCUMENT TO MAKE SURE IT ACCURATELY REFLECTS WHAT IS HAPPENING OUT THERE.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS AT THEIR JANUARY 25TH MEETING AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO APPROVE WITH REPLACING THAT RESIDENTIAL ROAD CONNECTION THAT WE TO FROM Y AND Z WITH THE GATED EMERGENCY ACCESS AND THEN SORT OF REMOVE THAT ROAD FROM FROM XE.

HOWEVER, IT STILL WILL ALLOW FOR THAT CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THEM JUST NOT NECESSARILY IN THAT SINGLE TWO LANE ROAD FORMAT THAT WE'VE SEEN FROM A REVIEW CRITERIA MET ALL THE REVIEW CRITERIA I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON EITHER ONE OF THEM YOUR ACTIONS ARE TO APPROVE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS OR TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR A PROCESS AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE APPLICANT SINCE SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR AND THEN WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING. I'M ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MR. NESTER IS REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT HE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOR HIM. I SAID YES MA'AM AND I WOULD SAY FOR ME GOING FORWARD WHEN WE IT BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO GO TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO GOING FORWARD WHEN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHAT SEE 68% I HAVE TO ASK MYSELF 68% OF WHAT IN OTHER WORDS I DON'T HOW MANY RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE PLACE SAY THAT'S 200 BUT YOU COULD HAVE ONLY TEN SO FAVORABLY AND 68% OF THAT IF YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING, IT'S NOT A GOOD MARKER TO TELL COUNCIL GOING FORWARD. I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND WE DO THAT IN THE FUTURE AND THEN I DID READ THE RECORD FROM THE BOA AND I'M HOPEFUL THERE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER CONNECTION. I MEAN FRANKLY THE CONNECTION IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE TURNED INTO EMERGENCY GOOD ACCESS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THEIR TAKES SOME WEAR AND TEAR ON THE TRUNK ROAD WHICH WAS ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS GOING IN AND OUT BUT THAT'S THEIR YOU KNOW IT'S THEIR PROPERTY THEY CAN INVESTOR OPINION AND SO BE IT BUT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT EVENTUALLY THERE'S ANOTHER ACCESS EGRESS INGRESS SIMILAR IF I MAY SO YOU WOULD HAVE SO YOU KNOW WE'LL START WITH THE Y X HERE THAT'S THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE OWN ACCESS THE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT OFF OF 170 THAT SAYS C I'M SORRY Y Z I'M SORRY I APOLOGIZE MY SEE SAY THAT AGAIN I SAID THEY WILL HAVE AND I THOUGHT THEY WANTED TO AWAY WITH THAT NO THE COMMERCIAL PORTION SO THAT THE DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY DEVELOP THIS SITE THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE TWO HIGHWAY 170 WITH A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY HERE WHEN WE'RE SAYING THIS IS X X WHENEVER X IS DEVELOPED THIS PERSON IS IT THE SAME OWNER THE THE APPLICANT CURRENTLY HAS THAT PROJECT ARE THAT PROPERTY CONTRACT NOW TIMING WISE I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY'RE THEY'RE PLANNING THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THEM BUT AS THIS PROPERTY X DEVELOPS THIS CONNECTION WOULD COME ONLINE SO THIS CONNECTION HERE THAT'S NOW YOUR SECOND ACCESS POINT FOR FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AGAIN THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY ACCESS POINT OFF OF HIGHWAY 170 AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT X AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THE REAR YOU SAID X AND Y AND Z OWNED BY THE SAME I SEE ARE ARE OWNED BY THE THE APPLICANT X IS UNDER CONTRACT BY THE SAME FOR ME TO KEEP ON YOU WANT TO FIND OUT MORE OH DID YOU ASK QUESTION I'M SORRY BUT WE GOT GOT MORE WHAT AND THE WALKWAY THAT YOU REFERRED TO THAT THERE WANTING TO

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BASICALLY THE WAY IT LOOKS SPLIT RIGHT ON THE BUFFER ON THE 50 FOOT BUFFER YES SIR THAT THAT'S CANAL STREET AND PASSAGE YES SIR WHAT IS OUR DEFINITION OF A PEDESTRIAN PASSAGE AS RIGHT NOW THAT'S JUST A CONCEPTUAL DOTTED LINE. MY RECOMMENDATION IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD TO WE COULD EASILY MAKE THAT EITHER A SIX OR EIGHT FOOT WIDE PATH OF A HARD SURFACE ASPHALT AND OR CONCRETE. IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THE WHERE THE EXISTING ROAD COULDN'T BE MOVED WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT THE PATH AND MAKE THE INTERCONNECTION THAT IS A POSSIBILITY AND THAT IS SOMETHING WOULD LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK UPON AND I'LL JUST ONE MORE BECAUSE I FORGOT TO LOOK INTO ARE THERE ANY CONVERSIONS FOR COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL INVOLVED IN THIS MASTER PLAN? NO SIR. BUT WHEN WHAT I'M LOOKING AT JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT THE ROAD IN THE MIDDLE THERE WHERE IT ORIGINALLY WAS SUPPOSED TO GO. BUT WE ALSO HAVE THESE OTHER PARCELS THAT PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO DO EXACTLY WHAT WAS DRAWN UP. NO DRAW UP NOW TOO.

SO IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE AND OUT PLUS ONE THAT'S COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLETED FOR ONE ROAD AS WE SPEAK AND THEN EVENTUALLY TWO THAT CLOSE TOGETHER AS WELL SO EVERYBODY ELSE AND LET'S ALL ASK QUESTIONS THAT YOU I DIDN'T MENTION IT BUT THIS TABLE IS MEANT FOR THE APPLICANT SO THE YOU KNOW THE OVERALL PROJECT IT CONCERNS WHEN WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH AN YES JUST MAKE THEM LIKE IT'S OKAY BUT BRIDGET DID YOU HAVE ANY NOW ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? YES, KEVIN , I MISSED THE THE RATIONALE WHY THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE LAYOUT I WOULD LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK ON THAT THEN AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS ARE THEY REDUCING ANY OF THE FOOTPRINT ANY ANY OF THE DENSITY OR TO REDUCE ENERGY DENSITY WHEN THEY REMOVE THESE ACCESS? NO SIR YEAH I'M JUST QUESTION GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT JUST SO YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC WHENEVER WE LIKE WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS ROAD REMOVAL BUT COUNCIL DID NOT PUT ON THE REMOVAL OF THE TWO ACCESS POINTS NORTH AND SOUTH SO WE ALL KNOW NOW DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT THIS KIND SPOKE FOR COUNCILMAN I DON'T THINK COUNCIL LITTERING HAS TWO ACCESS POINTS ON THEMSELVES ON THIS I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE TAKING A ROAD FROM A PROPERTY THAT'S AN APPLICANT IS TRYING TO CHANGE THEY HASN'T AN CLOSED ON IT YET SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT CONNECTOR ROAD FROM THE MAINTENANCE IT'S GOING TO X BECAUSE THAT ROAD IS INTENDED I CAN SEE TO HAVE A BUFFER SOME KIND OF BUFFER THERE'S A ROADWAY THERE'S A BUFFER ON EITHER SIDE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE COMMERCIAL. SO I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S A IT'S A LIKE LARRY SAID THAT WHEN WHOEVER OWNS W IS AND SAY WELL YOU DID IT FOR X I WANT THE SAME THING. THERE'S NO RED LIGHT AT THAT ROAD AND I'M SURE I'M ASKING YOUR QUESTION BUT THERE'S NO RED LIGHT AND THE FIRST ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENS IT'S SUN CITY SEE GRASS EVERYONE HERE TAKE IT OUT N. SO I THINK WE DESIGNED THIS MASTER PLAN FOR THREE ACCESS POINTS WHICH GAVE THE DEVELOPER AIR TO GET THE DENSITY THAT HE HAS AND IF WE WOULD ONLY ADD ONE ACCESS POINT OR TWO, WOULD WE EVEN GIVEN THAT DENSITY SO THERE CANNOT CHANGE IN SOMETHING WRONG TIME. SO YES I UNDERSTAND AND THEN I'LL JUST AFTER THE APPLICANT ANSWERS I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR SUGGESTIONS WERE REPRESENTING THE TOWN ON HOW THIS COULD WORK FOR YOU ALL FOR ANY SUGGESTIONS THE APPLICANT WHERE WE CAN KEEP OUR ROADS BUT YES MA'AM I THINK COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT TERM SO TELL ME NOW OKAY RESPONDING TO APPLICANT YES ANSWER FOR SURE NO THAT I KNOW YOU'LL BE BEFORE US AGAIN SO WHENEVER YOU HAVE A TERM JUST KIND OF EASIER YOU CAN PUT YOUR PAPERWORK THERE YES MA'AM THANK YOU. AND FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS WALTER NESTOR AND I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH BIR AND FOREMAN AND WE REPRESENT THE APPLICANT. IT'S LISTED AS DAN KEEPER WITH WHAT WE'RE JONES KEEPER WHO'S HERE WITH ME TONIGHT DAWN TURNER.

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KENLEY HORNE IS HERE AS WELL. AND MR. KEVIN , WE ALL WANT TO OF CHARLIE BROWN WHICH IS THE OWNER OF PASO WAS X AND Y, Y AND Z Y AND Z I'M SORRY THE OWNER OF PARTS OF Y Z.

OH, I'LL READ IT A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. SO THERE WAS A QUESTION BEFORE FIRST QUESTION YOU SAID LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER EVERYTHING. WAS IT YOUR SPIRITS WERE TWO QUESTIONS. YES, MA'AM. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU COULD PERMISSIBLE AND THE FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ALL DO AND I'M THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AN AWFUL IT WAS AN AWFUL LOT NICER WATCHING YOUNG MR. FISHER THAN IT WAS WATCHING THE ANTAGONIST. SO I'M SORRY THAT YOU HAD TO WITH THAT WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND WHAT YOU DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY WAS ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER HERE IS THAT YOU'RE NOT ILLUMINATING OPPORTUNITY FOR A ROAD. YOU'RE ELIMINATING THE FOR ROAD . WHEN WE WENT INITIALLY A YEAR AND SPOKE WITH STAFF ABOUT THIS PROJECT, MR. ICAHN APPROPRIATELY SAID WELL YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN.

REMEMBER THAT THERE'S THERE'S AN INTERCONNECTIVITY IMPORTANT PIECE HERE AND THE TOWN COUNCIL'S VERY CONCERNED ABOUT INTERCONNECTIVITY AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS BENEFIT AND THE PURPOSE TO INTERCONNECT IT'S A LIFE SAFETY AND HEALTH CONCERN THAT COUNCIL WANTS FOR ALL OF ITS COMMUNITIES. I THINK AS YOU SAW IN MR. ECHO'S PRESENTATION, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF ISLAND THAT'S SITTING OUT THERE AND THEN IN YOUR STAFF REPORT YOU'LL NOTE THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONCEIVED IN THE EARLY 2000 WHEN KENT ESTATES WAS A ANOTHER PD WHICH WAS ADJACENT TO IT AND IT WAS GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT OF COMMUNITY THEN IT HAS DEVELOPED INTO 23 YEARS LATER. BUT LISTENING TO WHAT MR. ICAHN AND STAFF SAID, WE SAID WELL THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO BUILD A ROAD, WE HAVE TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO CONNECT ROAD TO. AND SO WE DID WE WENT TO THAT COMMUNITY. WE SPOKE WITH THE BOARD DIRECTORS.

IT DIRECTOR SAID APPROPRIATELY WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT TO OUR MEMBERSHIP AND IN ANSWER TO MR.. WOULD YOUR QUESTION IF THERE'S A LETTER IN THE PACKET IT'S IN THIS IN THIS IN THE STAFF REPORT THERE'S A LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED THAT CAME FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT AND. IT SAID THAT THEY UNDERTOOK A SURVEY OF THE MEMBERS AND 68% OF THE MEMBERSHIP SO WASN'T 68% OF THE PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED IT WAS 68% OF THE PEOPLE OF THE MEMBERSHIP SAID WE DON'T WANT A ROAD NOW FULL DISCLOSURE WE HAD WE HAD OFFERED THE LIGHT SAFETY ALTERNATIVE THAT WE WOULD CONSTRUCT A DRIVE AND PUT AN EMERGENCY GATE.

SO TODAY THEY DON'T TODAY THEY HAVE ONE ACCESS THAT ONE ACCESS POINT WE'RE PROVIDING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT SECOND ACCESS POINT THAT SECOND EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT.

SO WHEN WHEN FIRE VEHICLES POLICE VEHICLES, AMBULANCES AND OTHER EMERGENCY SERVICES COME TO THE GATE, THEY PRESS THE BUTTON AND THE GATE OPENS UP. WE'RE SET AT WALTER.

I'M TRYING TO YES, SIR. THAT WOULD BE MUCH MUCH THE PURVIEW THAT WOULD THAT IN EARLIER RIGHT IT'S 31 OR SO WHERE THAT ORANGE TRIANGLE IS THAT'S SITTING HERE.

THAT'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED YET THE TOP OF BOTTOM THAT HEY YOU KNOW THIS IS WHERE YOU PEOPLE WELL I KNOW THAT'S THE ONE THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT THEM NOW WHAT MR. JUMA WHAT WE MOVE HERE ASKING TO CONSTRUCT AT THE MOMENT WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO CONSTRUCT IS A 50 FOOT WIDE TWO LANE ROAD BUILT TO SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION STANDARDS WITH BUFFERS AND SETBACKS OFF THE ROAD AS WOULD BE REQUIRED BASED ON THE MASTER PLAN THAT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED. WHAT WE'D LIKE DO IS DEVELOP THE ENTIRE SITE WITHOUT ROAD IN THE MIDDLE OF IT BUT UNDERSTANDING THE PURPOSE OF THAT ROAD OR AT LEAST A PORTION OF THE PURPOSE OF THAT ROAD WHEN THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE MASTER PLAN INITIALLY WAS TO PROVIDE THAT SECONDARY ACCESS ANOTHER ACCESS POINT BUT THAT'S WHY WE ASK THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY SAID WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT THE ACCESS POINT.

WELL 68% OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE DON'T WANT THE ACCESS POINT BUT WE WOULD LIKE EMERGENCY ACCESS AND THE APPLICANT HAS SAID WE WILL CONSTRUCT EMERGENCY ACCESS,

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WE'LL BUILD IT FOR WE WILL BUILD THE GATE AND IF YOU SEE IN THE DIAGRAM HERE AND THINK IT'S HAGER ROAD AND IT DOESN'T GO TO THE PROPERTY LINE SO THE PAVEMENT STOPS AND THE THE PAVEMENT STOPS BEFORE THE PROPERTY LINE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ONE OF THE DETRIMENTS TO WHAT TO THIS COMMUNITY IT WAS MASTER PLAN AND IT WAS A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND THERE WAS ONE DEVELOPER 23 YEARS LATER THE DEVELOPERS OF BANK HOLDING REMITTANCE OF WHAT THE DEVELOPER ENTITY AND SO A PROPERTY OWNER CAME IN AND THIS PROPERTY BUT WE WE DON'T HAVE THE PERMISSION OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OWNERS TO MAKE THE CONNECTION IF IF TOWN SAYS WE LIKE THE OLD MASTER PLAN WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT MASTER PLAN.

OUR ONLY OPTION IS TO CONSTRUCT A ROAD THAT IS GOING TO END AT THE PROPERTY LIFE WE CAN'T FORCE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY OWNERS TO CONSTRUCT A ROAD WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO CONNECT TO OUR PROPERTY AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE DISTINCTION AGAIN AND AGAIN THE PLANNING IS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT KIND OF BUT ONCE A DEVELOPER IS GONE AND HASN'T CONSTRUE IT THAT ONCE THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE OWNERS YOU CAN'T FORCE THOSE TWO OWNERS THE ONLY YESSIR THE OTHER OWNERS DON'T DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PAY FOR IT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WELL MR. HAMILTON BASED ON THE SURVEY SURVEY QUESTION TO THE MEMBERS WAS DO YOU WANT A THROUGH ROAD OR DO YOU WANT THE APPLICANT TO BUILD AN EMERGENCY GAME SO THE MEMBERS IN THAT SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY WERE ASKED THE QUESTION DO YOU WANT A ROAD CONNECTING 170 THROUGH HEY HEY THE ROAD TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO COMMUNITY OR DO YOU WANT A CRASH GATE? DO YOU WANT AN EMERGENCY GATE ON SOMEONE'S ROADS? IT DOESN'T THE MASTER SLUMLORD OH I THINK WE KNOW THAT AND IT'S ACTUALLY THE THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP VERSUS MASTER CREDIT YOU KNOW THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ACTUALLY OWN THE ROADS. YES.

HOW FAR IS THE CAPITAL CITY TO WANT TO FINISH THAT OR TO GET THE CONNECTION THAT WAS MADE FROM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY TO END OF THE EXISTING ROAD? I'VE BEEN OUT TO THE SITE TO THE IN THE OF THE LAND IS NOT SHOWN YOU CAN GENERALLY TELL BY LOOKING DOWN THE THE FENCES ON THE OTHER IT'S PROBABLY 15 TO 20 FEET IF THE LOT WAS THERE TOO AND THE BOXES KIND OF MARKET AND I'VE SEEN YOUR PICTURES YEAH AND IT'S ABOUT I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT 15 OR 20 IT'S NOT THREE IT'S 1.6 OUT OF TEN SO THAT'S THE DISCREPANCY AS FAR AS FINISHING THE ROAD OR TURNING INTO THE ROAD WELL WE DON'T HAVE ANY PERMISSION TO TIE IN THE ROAD MR. TUMA THAT WE DON'T WE WOULD HAVE TO GET AN EASEMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION IN ORDER FOR US TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE CONNECTION. SO THE TOWN COUNCIL SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO REMOVE THAT. YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE 50 FOOT WIDE TWO LANE ROAD THEN IT WOULD IT WOULD END AT OUR PROPERTY LINE WE GO ONTO THEIR PROPERTY WITHOUT REASON BUT YOU CAN HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WHEN YOU COME BEFORE US WHEN YOU HAVE TO BUILD OTHER ROADS.

SAME THING WALTER BECAUSE YOUR YOUR LINE SHOWS IT BUT I WENT OUT HERE IT'S THE SAME STUFF AT THE POLE SO NOW THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE A YES WE WANT ANOTHER I MEAN I DON'T KNOW HOW THE QUESTIONS WERE FRAMED. WE KNOW BETTER SO WE BETTER LIKE WASHINGTON SQUARE HAD BUILT AN ALL THE WAY TO THE LAND SO SOMEWHERE WE CAN STUFF DEVELOPERS IN THEY SHOULD PROBABLY BUILT IN ROADS LONG AGO I MEAN THAT'S WHERE WE ARE BUT THIS IS WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE BUT IF IT WAS REQUIRED IN THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN FOR THE ROAD TO BE THERE HOW CAN IT BE THAT DIFFICULT TO MAKE THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS PLAY OR WHATEVER GO BY THE ORIGINAL APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE SAW WE SAID WE HAD TO DO IT THEN IT'S STILL ON BOOKS, YOU KNOW, STILL HAS TO BE DONE. I MEAN I DON'T SEE WHERE I KIND OF JUST FINGER BUT THE MASTER PLAN AUTHORIZES CONSTRUCTION AND IT REQUIRE BUYERS IN THE CONSTRUCTION IT DOESN'T ALLOW ONE LANDOWNER TO ENTER ONTO THE PROPERTY OF ANOTHER NOR I THINK

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DOES IS THAT IS IT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE COUNCIL CAN GO TO THE SINGLE FAMILY OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND SAY NOW THAT A A ROAD THIS ROAD HAS BEEN CONNECTED YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO MAKE A CONNECTION. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW TECHNICALLY THAT HAPPENS AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THERE'S STILL EXISTING RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT.

AND MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT THAT COULD BE A CONDITION YOU KNOW THAT COULD BE A CONDITION WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ONE THAT'S YOU KNOW WE HAVE TWO POINTS THAT ARE OUT I KNOW WHAT THE DISTANCE IS. I THINK IT'S APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND FEET.

MR. TURNER COULD PROBABLY SEE KNOW THERE'S A RIGHT IN AND THERE'S ANOTHER RIGHT AND I THINK BECAUSE YOU GO BACK AND THE THINK YOU WANT ANSWER FIRST QUESTION TO YOU KIND OF MAKE IT THAT AND YOU A QUESTION SO I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE QUESTION BUT I I KNOW YOU CAME UP TO ANSWER THE QUESTION MY QUESTION WAS THE EXIST DID NEIGHBORS DO NOT WANT TO BUILD A ROAD IS WHAT I WOULD THINK THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT BUT BUT BUT BECAUSE ARE DEVELOPING AT THIS POINT I THINK YOU SHOULD BE THE THE GOOD NEIGHBORS SAY WE BUILD ON THE ROAD WHAT WE MR. HAMILTON WE ARE ACTUALLY BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND OFFERING TO BUILD WHAT THAT COMMUNITY WANTS THAT COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT THAT FULL ACCESS TO SOUTH CAROLINA HIGHWAY 170 AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THAT IN A BOTTOM JUST LIKE A COMPUTER IF I CAN FIGURE IT OUT THERE IS A CURSOR HERE SO THIS IS A WRITE IN WRITE DOWN AND SO WE'LL HAVE THE NHC TO THE SOUTH TO THE SOUTH THAT TRAFFIC COMES DOWN HERE AND IF YOU LIVE IN THE SIGNAL, IF YOU LIVE IN THE APARTMENTS YOU'RE GOING TO COME IN, YOU'RE GOING TO GO THIS WAY OR YOU'RE GOING TO GO THIS WAY. THIS ACCESS POINT NOT GOING TO BE YOUR POINT.

THESE FOLKS AND THESE FOLKS ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE THAT TRAFFIC AND NO BECAUSE THEY THINK THE MAIN ROAD THEY'RE GOING TO GO DOWN GO THE MAIN ROAD. YOU KNOW THEY ARE THEY'RE NOT AND NO ONE AROUND HERE THE CROWN APARTMENTS ON THE MAIN ROAD THEY MIGHT YES, MA'AM AND THEY MIGHT EXACTLY BUT TO IF THEY'RE GOING SOUTH THEY HAVE TO COME OUT THE MAIN ACCESS BECAUSE THERE'S A MEDIAN THAT RUNS ALL ALONG HIGHWAY 170. SO THIS MEDIAN THERE'S A MEDIAN THAT EXISTS THAT THAT THAT WILL NOT ALLOW TRAFFIC TO COME OUT AND GO THIS WAY.

SORRY MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. WHY ARE MESSING WITH A PIECE OF PROPERTY NO ONE REALLY OWNS AN APPLICANT KNOW WHY ARE WE MESSING WITH X THEY JOIN IN THE APPLICATION YES I'M SORRY MAYOR THE THE OWNER OF A PARCEL X JOINED IN THE APPLICATION THE ORIGINAL OWNER I DON'T THINK NO IT'S THE ENTITY THAT OWNS THAT PERSON IS ENTITY NAMED BRIGHT HOLDINGS SO IT'S A IT'S NOT THAT THAT ORGANIZATION PURCHASED IT FROM FROM THE BANK AND THEY BECAME AWARE BECAUSE OF DISCUSSIONS OF THIS APPLICATION THEY SAID THIS FRONTAGE 54 WIDE ROAD ON OUR PROPERTY DOESN'T WORK IT'S SOMEWHAT REDUNDANT ALSO YEAH BUT BUT I WOULD ASK MAYOR DEAR TO YOUR TO YOUR QUESTION I MEAN RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A MASTER PLAN TO 50 FOOT WIDE ROADS THAT THAT THAT MAKE THIS INTERCONNECTION AND WE JUST WE THINK THAT HAVING TO IS MORE THAN MORE THAN IS REQUIRED WE'RE ASKING THAT THAT YOU REMOVE THE ONE I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO THE TOWN COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO FORCE THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION TO BUILD ROAD TO MR. HAMILTON'S POINT WE WOULD BE WILLING BUILD BUILD THAT THROUGH FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS AND I WOULD I RECOGNIZE THAT THE LAW SAYS WHEN YOU BUY A COMMUNITY YOU'RE BUYING IN A COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE WITH THE LAND RECORDS SHOW AND WHAT THE MASTER PLAN SHOWS ARE YOU'RE UP YOU HAVE LEGAL KNOWLEDGE OF THOSE THINGS BUT IF IF I HAD A YOUNG FAMILY AND I WAS LIVING IN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND A DEVELOPER CAME AND SAID YOU GOT TO CONNECT TO HIS YOU'VE GOT TO CONNECT TO US AND CHANGED WHAT THE WAY YOUR COMMUNITY OPERATES.

I'D BE UPSET. I WOULD BE UPSET. I WOULDN'T WANT SUDDENLY TO HAVE WHERE I HAVE RIGHT. THE PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE VISITING THERE. SO ANYBODY WHO'S GOING TO THAT

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THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO GOING THERE ARE GOING THERE WITH A PURPOSE CONNECTING THIS AND CLOSING THE CONNECTION THAT THIS ROAD RESULTS IN IN A PASS THROUGH WE DID YOU ANSWER THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I THINK WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE DOING GREAT JOB AND I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF IT DID HE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS? I MOTOR OKAY.

YOU OKAY LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THANK YOU.

YES SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING AND TO GIVE SOME CLARITY IF ANYONE WAS TRYING TO MAKE A CONNECTION I BE MORE INTERESTED IN BEING RESPECTFUL TO YOU AND SEEING WHAT THE POINT IS REQUESTING. IT'S NOT IT SEEMS WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US THEY'RE NOT AGAINST HAVING EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD BUT THEY ARE AGAINST HAVING A ROAD THAT GIVES FULL THEIR ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC TO YOUR COMMUNITY AND IF THE MAJORITY OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AND NOT A 68% IN BUT A 68% OF THE ENTIRE MEMBERSHIP HAS VOICED THEIR THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SEEMS TO BE CONSIDERED VETOES. THAT'S THE CONVERSATION YOU'RE CORRECT THE ACCESS OR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ROAD THAT'S EMERGENCY OR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ROAD OPENS THEIR COMMUNITY NOW AS A THRUWAY FOR ANYONE COMING ALONG WHITES ONLY TURNING INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT IS MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT WHAT IS YOUR OR KEVIN IS THERE A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT WAS ACTUALLY SENT TO THE RESIDENTS I GUESS READ THE WORD HOW IS I DIDN'T SEE WHAT PAGE 139 999 FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION I PROMISE YOU WORDING OF IT SIR ON THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH I HAVE NO ON 40 QUESTION I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WILL BRIDGE UP I MEAN AGAIN I MADE MY POINT A MINUTE AGO I THINK THAT IT'S I DON'T I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS. I PERSONALLY WOULD HAVE SAID PUT A GATE THERE IS A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TO GIVE US INGRESS EGRESS IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WANT TO GET TO THEIR PROPERTY WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO ME WHEN YOU READ WHAT THEY SAID I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT. THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY DO NOT WANT INCREASED PUBLIC ACCESS ACCESS WHICH WILL INCREASE MAINTENANCE COST OF OUR ROADS, INCREASE SECURITY RESIDENTS THEY DON'T WANT IT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT MEETING BUT NOT ALL THIS. WE ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE QUESTION WAS.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE QUESTIONS ASKED THE MAYOR. I MEAN I JUST FEEL LIKE I STAY . BUT WHAT WERE YOUR ALTERNATIVES? I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THIS BUT WE VOTED ON IT WITH ROE THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT CHANGED WHEN WE VOTED ON THE MASTER PLAN THE ROAD WAS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN. SO REMEMBER WHEN CAME FOR US? YES. AND JUST AS A IN 2017 MR. NESTOR IS HERE IN FRONT OF YOU WHERE WE ACTUALLY MADE CHANGES INCLUDE THE NOW ENCOMPASS HEALTH CARE SO THAT WAS THE LAST TIME WE HADN'T AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN SO INITIALLY WE'RE SEEKING TO THE ALLOCATED TO TO FOLLOW THE PLAN FOLLOWING THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW TO CONSTRUCT THE ROAD . SO THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE SOLUTION AND AT THE LEAST RESISTANCE FROM THERE THE DISCUSSION WAS MAYBE TO ADJUST THE ROAD TO CURVE IT TO WHERE IT WOULD GO CLOSER TO WHERE THAT BUFFER IS AND THEN STILL PROVIDE THE CONNECTION THAT'S NECESSARY WHILE GAINING THE SPACE FOR THE APPLICANT TO BE ABLE TO USE HAVE MORE USABLE SPACE ALTOGETHER AND THEN PROVIDE ACCESS OFF OF THAT SIDE ROAD WHICH WOULD THEN PROVIDE ACCESS TO 170 FROM THERE. THAT'S WHERE THE APPLICANT HAS DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSALS . I, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR THE REST OF THE STORY. LJ EARLIER THE PROPOSAL THAT ACTUALLY THE EXISTING MASTER PLANS AS YOU CAN SHOW THE DOOR ON THE PURPLE SIDE THE CROWN SAT ON THEIR MAP SHOWS THAT THEY OWN MORE THAN ONE HOUR SO I'M CONFUSED OVER THAT.

I JUST THINK GETTING RID OF PROPOSED ROADS ON NORTH AND SOUTH AS YOU COME IN FOR A YEAR JUST IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD THOSE ROADS 50 OF THOSE HOMES WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

I JUST GO BACK TO WHAT WAS AGREED TO BASED ON LOVE'S PROMISE AND I DON'T LIKE IT THAT WE'VE MADE MISTAKES. I TOLD YOU THAT ONE MISTAKE I MADE WAS PUSHING AND ASKING

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WHEN IT WAS ASKED TO PUT A GAPING HOLE AND ASK THEM TO STEP OUT IN A INTERCONNECTIVITY CONVOY AFTER FOLLOWING WITHOUT CONGRESS. I MEAN IT'S JUST A MESS AND THERE'S NO LIGHT. THERE IS NO PLANNED RED LIGHT AND THE FIRST ACCIDENT EVEN AN EMERGENCY ACCESS CAN'T OPEN UP FOR THAT. AN EMERGENCY ACCESS IS FOR HURRICANES AND FLOODS AND AN AMBULANCE IS NOT FOR AN ACCIDENT AT AN INTERSECTION.

I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT THE EMERGENCY SERVICES CAN GET THROUGH THOSE KIND OF GATES FOR ANY REASON THEY WANT. BUT MA'AM, I APPRECIATE THE OVERALL CONCERN I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SETTING PRECEDENTS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS THIS BUT I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS EITHER PROVIDING EMERGENCY ACCESS OR PROVIDING A ROAD THAT DOES THAT THAT DEAD ENDS THAT DOES THAT DOES NOT GET CONSTRUCTED. AND TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE FUTURE CONDITION APPROVAL ON DON'T DON'T COME BACK TO GET THAT OTHER RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT REMOVED OR ROAD THAT CONNECTS ON THE SECOND ROUTE THE MAIN YOU'RE GIVING YOURSELF MORE ABILITY TO BUILD UP THAT PROPERTY WELL I'M NOT TAKING THAT ROAD RIGHT THEREFORE REACHED FOR THIS WELL THE BUFFERS AND THE BUFFERS AND THE SETBACKS WE SAW PLAY OFF OF THAT ROAD THERE. SO IF THAT ROAD GOES AWAY THE PROPERTY LINE IS WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS AND THERE WOULD BE BUFFERS AND SETBACK OFF OF THAT PROPERTY LINE FOR THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND IT WOULD JUST BE THROUGH DRIVEWAY, IT WOULDN'T BE A TWO LANE ROAD, IT BE IT WOULD BE BUILT TO TOWN STANDARDS BUT IT WOULDN'T BE BUILT TO SOUTH CAROLINA HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT STANDARDS. AND I HAVE ON THE PROPOSED PLAN GOING ACROSS THAT ROAD FLOODING THE PROPERTY THAT'S I THINK THAT'S A ZONING MA'AM.

THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A ZONING LINE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE TO PROPERTY LINE.

SO FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE AND I THINK THAT WAS THE ZONING LINE BUT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SUBDIVISION PRIOR YOU WOULD YOU WOULD BE BUFFERING BACKING OFF OF THAT PROPERTY LINE STILL WITH WITH THE ROAD THAT SITS THERE YOU'RE OFFERING IT'S BACKING OFF OF THE ROAD AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE YOU'RE BUFFERING AND SET BACKING OFF OF THE ROAD BUT IF YOU ELIMINATE THE ROAD YOU'RE JUST BUFFERING SETBACK AND YOU'RE STILL YOU'RE STILL PROVIDING THE SAME PROTECTION BUFFER ZONE SETBACKS PROTECT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY SO YOU'RE STILL PROTECTING ADJACENT PROPERTY. YOU'RE JUST NOT PROTECTING A ROAD OF A ROAD TO NOWHERE. YOU'RE LIKE MANAGING THE PURPLE YOU KNOW FURTHER THINKING THAT WE HAD IT ABOUT SO WHY IS THAT CHANGED? YOU HAD ME YEAH THAT'S YES CORRECT. AND AS I STATED BEFORE, YOU SEE WHERE IT WAS.

YES. INCORRECT SUDDENLY YES. AND THAT WAS THAT ITEM WAS THE ACTUAL LAND THAT WAS PURCHASED FOR CROWN WAS 17 THEIR PROPERTY LINE WENT ALL THE WAY.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A TINY LITTLE LITTLE POINT RIGHT THERE.

IT WENT THE WAY TO THIS POINT SO THE APPLICANT AS THEY WERE JUST FORWARD THEY JUST THEY JUST BROUGHT THE PURPLE DESIGNATION ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THIS POINT.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE TIMES AS I WAS REFERRING IS RIGHT HERE IS WHERE WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE HAVE AN APPLICANT MOVE MOVE THAT PURPLE LINE BACK UP AGAIN. THIS IS THIS WAS A STAFF REQUEST THIS WAS A STAFF HOUSE . SO THIS IS NOT ON THE APPLICANT. SO THIS WAS THIS WAS US REQUESTING TO TO KIND OF UPDATE THAT PORTION OF IT. BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE HAVE TO MOVE THAT BACK AND THEN STILL PROVIDE THAT CONNECTION POINT FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WAS TO SO DID YOU DEAL WITH THE PROPERTY OR SITUATION AT ALL PERSONALLY OR I STAFF SO MY PRINCIPAL PLANNER DAN FRAZIER HE WAS THE ONE THAT HE MET WITH BOTH THE THE PRESIDENT OF PLAY AS WELL AS THE MANAGEMENT AND THEN WAS ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND AND REITERATE WHAT WAS PROVIDED OR JUST CONFIRM WHAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT THAT THEY NOT WANT THEY DID NOT WANT THAT FULL ACCESS POINT AND.

THEY ARE OKAY WITH THE EMERGENCY ACCESS AND THAT'S WRITTEN FROM THEM.

YES ON PAGE 139 BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HOW THE QUESTION WAS ASKED THAT WERE FRAMED AND AGAIN ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY QUESTION TONIGHT WHERE THE EMERGENCY GATE LOCATION WOULD I MISSED AGAIN I DON'T KNOW WHY THE PROPERTY

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OWNERS WOULDN'T HAVE ASKED FOR A GATE ONLY EGRESS AND AN AIR OF INGRESS INTO THEIR PROPERTY IF THEY COULD UTILIZE IN AND OUT TO THEIR OWN DEVICE AND THAT WOULD PULL THE TRAFFIC OFF THE ROAD WAY AND TAKE IT INTO THE BACK SIDE WHERE EVERYBODY'S NOT GOING THROUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY NOT DID I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DO IT AS SOMEONE THAT LIVES IN A COMMUNITY SIMILAR TO THAT THEN THEN THEY COULD HAVE TO START TAKING THE OWNERSHIP OF YOU KNOW THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE FOBS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE KEY CARDS.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. THEY THEY RUN INTO THE GATES.

THEY HAVE TO REPAIR THE GATES. SO THAT'S AN ADDED EXPENSE THAT I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO HAVE AND AND HAVING THAT ACCESS THEORY. YES.

THIS PLAN WAS APPROVED AND VOTED ON BY COUNCIL WHEN THE DEVELOPER PAVED THE ROAD TO THE SITE STRAIGHT OR WHATEVER YOU CALLED IT. YOU KNOW SOME DEVELOPERS JUST DON'T DO IT JUST LIKE YOU JUST CAN THAT BE SOMETHING WE CAN ENFORCE WHETHER THEY IT'S BEEN APPROVED AND RECORDED AND WE WOULD HAVE I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT AND WALTER MAY KNOW THAT I WANT YOU TO TALK TO ME BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER IS NO LONGER IN THE BANK HAS IT? I ASSUME THAT THE BANK TOOK A DECLARATION OF THE CLIENT RIGHTS AND THE DEVELOPER RIGHTS . YOU MAY BE ABLE TO FORCE THE BANK TO COMPLETE THAT 6 TO 10 FEET OR WHATEVER IT IS AND WHAT I'M HEARING THE APPLICANT SAYING IS THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING ASSUMING A CONDITION OF YOUR APPROVAL WOULD BE THE POINT HAS TO GIVE AN EASEMENT TO JOIN THOSE TWO ROADS FROM THE PROPERTY LINE ON I'M SORRY 990 WHATEVER X Y IS IF THE APPLICANT WAS WILLING TO HANDLE THE 6 TO 10 FEE OR WHATEVER IT IS OF CONSTRUCTION JOIN IT PREDICATED AND ENCROACHED UPON THE POINT GIVING THEM AN EASEMENT TO DO THAT THAT WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM BUT GOING BACK AND FORCING THE ORIGINAL APPLICANT WHO'S GONE OR THE SUCCESSOR TO DO IT AT THIS POINT PROBABLY IS IN THE HANDS AND FEET AWAY.

AND WHAT WE WOULD END UP DOING AGGRAVATING A WHOLE BUNCH OF RESIDENTS THIS AREA DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT? I SUSPECT DO BUT I'D HAVE IT WOULD TAKE A LOT MORE THINKING OR RESEARCH FOR ME TO GIVE YOU A PERMANENT SOLUTION AND NOT DO THIS ANYMORE.

I THINK THAT WE'VE REQUIRED TO GO TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND MARY, IF I MAY ANSWER MR. WOODS QUESTION IF YOU LOOK IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THAT LETTER THAT THE AUTHOR OF THE LETTER KNEW BECAUSE THAT IN THE CONNECTION WAS THROUGH PARCELS Y Z SO THEY KNEW WHICH WHICH RIGHT RIGHT OUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT THAT'S PART OF THEIR LETTER THEY KNEW WHERE WHICH IS THAT HAGER ROAD THAT'S WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE A ROAD STOPS SHORT OF THE PROPERTY LINE AND THANK YOU I'M HEARING YOU'RE RIGHT I WAS INCORRECT 68 IS A MEMBERSHIP SAY THAT SO YES YES SIR THANK YOU WHAT IS THE TOTAL AUTHORITY USE ALLOWED IN THIS? I BELIEVE IT'S 404 DWELLING UNITS AND THERE'S SO MANY VARIANCES THEY ARE I BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY THERE'S NOT MANY AND WHAT'S LEFT ARE THE AFFORDABLE NINE UNITS NINE UNITS. SO THEY WERE ALMOST BUILT IN WESTCHESTER? YES, SIR. FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF PURCHASER. OKAY. AS A CROWN CROWN AND THE C SEAGRASS THE SINGLE FAMILY AND THE TOWNHOMES THAT ARE THERE AND THE HOTEL WHICH COUNTED FOR HALF A UNIT FOR EACH ROOM SO SO IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU GUYS JUST GOING TO USE THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO FOR HOUSE DEVELOPMENT OR HOW ARE YOU HOLDING UP 170 ON NEW YORK PROPERTY. YEAH YOU KNOW JUST TRYING TO GET THERE IT WOULD BE ONLY OFF OF 170. IT WOULD ONLY BE IT WOULD BE THAT RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT.

BUT INSTEAD OF A 50 FOOT WIDE RIGHT ROADWAY ON THE PROPERTY IT'S GOING TO BE A DRIVER.

SO WE'RE NOT IN THIS AT THIS DEVELOPMENT. THE Y IS DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT BE USING THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO SEAT ROAD STATION. IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE WOULD BE A CURB CUT IN THE LOCATION WHERE THE ROAD EXISTING THE EXISTING PLAN SHOWS THE ROAD

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THERE WOULD BE RIGHT IN RIGHT AT THAT POINT TO SERVE PARCELS X AND Y SO I AM Z I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M GOING TO TELL YOU YOU KEEP SAYING X AN X COMING NEXT AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT X RIGHT NOW. YES, YES THEY ARE. I'M SORRY I SHOOK THEM OUT OF IT. I LIVE IN A WORLD OF SHOOTING ON MY PRIVACY BUT THE LAST TWO LETTERS IN THE ALPHABET OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I THINK NOW SO I AM THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. AND MR. TUMA, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, ALL FOUR TRAFFIC THAT IS ENTERING ON THE PARCEL Y Z WOULD BE FROM SOUTH CAROLINA HIGHWAY 70 DIRECTLY ONTO THE PROPERTY AT THE LOCATION OF THAT THAT THE AREA THAT CIRCLED IN YELLOW SO THAT'S WHERE ALL THE ALL THE TRAFFIC BE THERE WOULD BE NO NO ACCESS POINTS FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NONE FROM THE OLD CAMP ESTATES DEVELOPMENT AND NOT ACROSS THE PLACE THERE COULD BE ACCESS SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GET THEM WE STILL HAVE TO GET A CREW CUT FROM SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY IN THAT LOCATION.

WHY DON'T YOU LOOK AT THE SUGGESTIONS AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

YEAH, I. I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION AND THE RE PART OF THE REASON WHY IS AFTER WE WITH MR. PICARD AND STAFF WE WENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL AND VERY OWNER SPEAK UNDERSTANDING THAT HOW HOW CAN WE ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD TO DO AND THEY DON'T THEY DIDN'T WANT AND PROBABLY DON'T WANT ANY DEVELOPMENT IN EITHER BUT WE DIDN'T GET THAT QUESTION NO DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY TO DO IT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANY MONEY TO DO WE KNOW DEFINITELY THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANY MONEY.

SO I IF YOU WOULD ASK THOSE SAME PROPERTY OWNERS 68% SAY WE WANT TO LEAVE THAT THE WAY WE SEE IT BECAUSE WE OWN ANYTHING ELSE. BUT YOU KNOW ME WOULDN'T I MEAN I'M JUST WE PUSHED ON ALL THAT LEAST IS ONE OF THE MOST COMMON THINGS WE HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT TOO MANY HOUSES, NOT ENOUGH ROADS YOU KNOW JUST TOO CARS, TOO MANY TRIPS EVERY DAY TRYING TO GET YOUR KIDS OUT TO GO TO SCHOOL WHEN YOU GO THERE, WHETHER IT'S A LIGHT OR WAIT IN ,NOT DEAL WITH IT EVERY DAY I TAKE MY GRANDKIDS TO SCHOOL IN THAT TOWN IT IS A MESS AND I'M SURE ACCESS POINTS HAVE TO GET IN OR GET OUT IS NOT TO FIX A PROBLEM BUT IT'S A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN HAVING LESS AND THEN ALSO IN THE CONTEXT HERE TOO WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN ASKING IN HIS LINE OF DIRECTION AND GOING ABOUT WHAT WORKS DOWN HERE IS BEEN VERY ADAMANT AND VOCAL AND COUNSEL TO HAVE COMMUNITY COHESION AND AS WELL AS INSIDE FROM THE POWER OR THE RESIDENTS BEING AFFECTED BY WHATEVER THE PROJECTS ARE.

SO LISTENING TO IT LIKE I SAID IN OF WHAT WAS A DIRECT QUESTION BEFORE WE ASK THE RESPONSE THAT WE SEE HERE IN OUR PACKETS I'D BE INTERESTED IN TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO RELY ON HERE. THEY'VE BEEN VOCAL IN THERE SO I GUESS OUR QUESTION BECOMES IN OUR WHO'S ON ASSUME THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES WE YOU KNOW FOREGO THAT AND SAY WELL WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE MAKE THIS AN ACCESS POINT. DOES THAT RESPONSIBILITY FOLLOW THEM ON THE RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT ROAD AND PEOPLE HAVE SAID I CONCUR THAT THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE ALWAYS PREACH IS TALK TO THE RESIDENTS TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS IS OUR NUMBER ONE THING AND I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THEIR LOGIC THAT THEY PUT IT IN WRITING AND THEY DON'T WANT IT. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU TO THINK THROUGH THE NEXT ONE.

THEY CLOSE ON THE NEXT LOT AND COMES BACK FOR US AND THE RESIDENTS.

ALL RIGHT. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? GOOD QUESTION.

WELL, I THINK I MEAN LET'S JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THE DECISION AND I'M JUST SAYING LIKE WE HAVE TO HAVE CONSISTENCY WITH THAT IN WHATEVER DIRECTION THE RESIDENTS GO. I THINK WE DO HAVE TO SET THE THE STANDARD IN TERMS OF IF IT DEFIES LOGIC WHAT DO WE DO IN THAT INDIVIDUAL IN TERMS ARE WE THEN GOING TO ASSUME THE LIABILITIES COME FROM SAY DESPITE STRAIGHT DEVELOPER WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO DO SOMETHING THAT DID IT ARE YOU KNOW NOW IT'S NOW IT'S UP TO US BECAUSE IT IT IT MAY BECOME A PROBLEM WHAT DO WE DO THEN? SO PERSONALLY I THINK THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS PROPERTY THAT SAYS WERE PUT THERE FOR INTENTIONAL WITH THE DENSITY CONSIDERED LIKE THE ONE JUST

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PUT THERE FOR CONVENIENCE IT WAS ALSO A TO JOIN THE PROPERTY TO THE SIDE WHICH IS NOW WHEN THIS THING WAS YOU CAN'T HELP ME HERE. YEAH I'M ASSUMING WITH THIS MASTER PLAN YOU ENCOMPASSED ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY THE CASTINGS THAT WE CHANGED THIS A BUNCH OF TIMES NOW WHAT I WAS SOME OF THE ACCESS POINTS I MEAN THEY WERE THE HOUSES SOME OF THE ACCESS POINTS WERE ALL MEANT TO TIE INTO LARGER PLANE NOT JUST THIS PLANE.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S CHANGED. THAT'S WHERE I HAVE AN ISSUE SUPPORTING THIS WHOLE THING IS TAKEN AWAY THAT ROAD FROM THE MAIN ROAD I JUST HAVE AN ISSUE TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE I KNOW THE PERSON SAID AND NOT HAVING A CLEAR PATH GOING NORTH SOUTH WOULD HAVE NEVER COME BEFORE US WE WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED THAT HOUSE TO BE BUILT ON THAT TRIGGER AND IT DID NOT COME FOR US. WE NOW WE KNOW IT HAS TO BECAUSE THIS HAS COME BEFORE US SO. LET ME ASK MAYOR INSTEAD OF VOTING TO KILL THIS PROJECT SO SO MUCH HAS BEEN PUT INTO IT, HOW CAN WE APPROACH THIS WHERE MAYBE IT COMES BACK BEFORE US OR SOME CONDITION? I DON'T KNOW AND HOW CAN WE DO IT AND I ONE THING I'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD IS WHEN A PROJECT IS VOTED DOWN HOW LONG BEFORE THEY CAN RETURN? IS THERE A TIME THAT THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO A MASTER SO THERE IS A TIME LIMIT? KEVIN IT IS IS IT A YEAR I'M SORRY I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ONLY A I DON'T HAVE I DON'T KNOW I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS OKAY WE KNOW THE NINE THE MASTER PLAN, THE 90 MINUTE MARK IT'S EVERY AMERICAN ATTENTION OR JUST GET COUNCIL'S THOUGHT PROCESS ON IT SO GOING TO WHAT COUNCILMAN WOULD SAID WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO TABLE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS UNTIL WE ARE GOING TO MEET FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE EPA TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THEIR REQUEST TO NOT HAVE THIS THIS ROLE LIKE WHAT THE WHAT LIABILITY ZONE FOR THEM WOULD BE IN TERMS OF IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY HERE AND UNDERSTANDING MAKING SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT REQUEST. WELL, I MEAN I WANT TO ADD TO THAT IF YOU WILL. I THINK THE TO WOULD WANT THIS ACQUIRE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BUILD THE TO PUT IN BACK BECAUSE AT THIS POINT THEY REALLY DON'T NEED IT BUT BUT WE NEED IT DEVELOPING IT WE NEED IT FOR BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ALWAYS CONNECTIVITY AND THAT'S A PART OF IT THAT'S A PART OF HOW WE HOW DO WORK PLANS TODAY TO MAKE SURE THERE IS AN ACTIVITY THAT'S THAT'S THAT WAS ALWAYS OUR INTENTION WHEN IS WHEN AS POSSIBLE THERE'S CONNECTIVITY SO RIGHT IT'S AN EMERGENCY I MEAN I DON'T THINK THAT WAS CAPTURED IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT I AGREE WITH YOU I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO BE HAVE THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE WE TELLING THEM THEY HAVE TO BUILD IT RIGHT AND I THINK THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE AND OUR PUSH FOR CONNECTIVITY HAS USUALLY BEEN SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE IS MULTIPLE ACCESS OPERATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC. THIS IS LIKE OUR DOWNTOWN OTHER AREAS OR LIKE THAT PROPERTY OVER ON BLOCK WATER THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO REALLY ARE ACCESSING THIS ARE THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE. SO THE CONNECTIVITY WOULD REALLY BENEFIT US AND IF THE EMERGENCY ACCESS GOES THERE THAT IS ONE OTHER CONNECTION. BUT GOING BACK TO WHAT MAYORS ALSO SAID IF THE WE DO AWAY WITH IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY WELL WE DO WANT IT WHEN THAT MIDDLE GETS ABOUT I'M ALSO SAYING HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM SO THEY KNOW WHAT THE THE LONG TERM EFFECTS OF THE IMPACTS THEIR DECISIONS ARE LONGER NOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO MEAN IN THE LONG RUN AND IF THERE'S A DISCONNECT THERE MAKING SURE THEY UNDERSTAND IT FULLY SO THEIR LETTER YOU SAID ONE THING THAT THE LETTER IS OKAY BUT IT'S OKAY SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE GATE RATES OR COMPULSORILY I DON'T KNOW I'VE SAID THAT BECAUSE THEY WROTE IN THEIR LETTER THEY'RE FINE WITH THE EMERGENCY GATE SO THAT MEANS YOU'D HAVE TO PAVE THE ROAD TO THEIR ROAD AND AT THAT CONNECTION THERE'S GATE 70

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WHICH IF THAT AND I THINK GOING TO BE WELL AWARE WITH THIS COUNCIL Y'ALL JUST CAN'T SIT DOWN I CAN'T VOTE ON THIS BECAUSE YOU CUT OFF THAT ROAD X I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S PROPER THAT ROAD OUT I THINK MR. HOOD AND MS. FRAZER SUGGESTED EITHER POSTPONING TO SET THOSE CONDITIONS OR HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION OR MAYOR IS IT A CONDITION THIS APPROVAL THAT THAT IS THE THE THE CONNECTION TO THE NAME OF THAT ROAD IS AUGUSTINE ROAD WE WOULD AFTER THAT THAT WE CAN'T ASK FOR AUGUSTINE ROAD TO NOT WHAT CORRECT WE CAN'T BE STANDING HERE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW OR A YEAR NOW SAYING OH PLEASE WE DON'T WANT TO CONNECT AUGUSTINE ROAD. YOU CAN MAKE THAT A CONDITION THAT WE CAN'T COME BACK TO DO IT OR WE GO BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND TRY TO HAVE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION WITH THEM IF WE POSTPONE THIS TODAY.

BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THEY'RE SAYING ANOTHER ONE THEY'RE MOST LIKELY GOING TO SAY NO TO THE OTHER AND THEN WE'RE IN THE SAME HAVING A HOME IN BETWEEN AND YOU'RE NOT I JUST WISH I'LL PUT YOUR ROUND AND ROUND HOME YOU KNOW AND IT'S STREETS AND I MEAN IT'S HERE FOR PURPOSE THE DENSITIES HERE FOR PURPOSE THREE ACCESS POINTS AND YOU'RE JUST CAUSING ALL OF US TO GET FRUSTRATED AND SO FORTH AND YOU BROUGHT IT TO US DESIGNED SO IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING AND WE APPRECIATE THE FRUSTRATION IN THERE WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED 2002 THERE WAS JUST A DIFFERENT PLAN FOR THIS AREA RECENTLY THIS LATE 2017 IS WHEN IT CAME TO US BECAUSE THESE ROADS WEREN'T PART OF THAT PART OF THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE WERE IN 2019 IT WAS KNOW IT WAS HARD TO YES IT WAS TO AS THE EVEN HAD REHABILITATION SERVICES YES I KNOW BUT WE LOOKED AT THE CAR PLACE CAME BEFORE US I KNOW WHAT THEY DID IT WE WATCHED IT MAYBE I WATCHED IT SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING MAYBE I DID REMEMBER IT. THE MAYOR WAS THERE AT THE AT THE MEETING THAT THEY HAD WITH SO PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT ALWAYS THERE BUT AGAIN IT WAS IT WAS AN ELECTRONIC SURVEY AND SO THAT WAS A SIGNAL. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I CAN'T VOTE FOR I'M SORRY I JUST CAN'T PUT OUT CONNECT ROADS AND I LOVE OF YOUR ARE ON THIS BUT THEY BEEN THERE SINCE 2000 AND WHATEVER AND NOTHING'S EVER CHANGED BUT YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY NO ONE HAD HEARD THAT WAS EXPECTED AND. I DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF ALL EXISTING ROADS. I THINK YOU'RE CONFUSED ON WHO OWNS THE NORTH SIDE BECAUSE I MEAN THAT'S A PROPOSAL. I DON'T HAVE A PROPOSAL TOO MUCH ON THE TABLE TO TABLE IT COULD DO THAT BUT WHAT I WANTED WAS CONDITIONS THOUGH I GOT THIS REALLY WEIRD WONDERING AS WE COME BACK ON THIS SURVEY EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS 68% OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY HUNTERS AND OWNERS MAY NOT DOWN HOME OWNERS OR WHATEVER IT DOESN'T REALLY SAY WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THEM THAT REALLY DOESN'T SAY THAT 100% ANSWERED THEIR SURVEY I HAVE A NUMBER OF I SEE IT'S TERM OF THEIR THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS AND AND THEN THEY I DON'T SEE THAT WHAT THEY SAID 68% OF THE MEMBERSHIP HAD THE MEMBERSHIP REPORT NOT THE MEMBERS THAT ACTUALLY OWN PROPERTY WELL I THINK THE PROPER WAY TO FOR THEM TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN FOR THE SURVEY THEY SAID 60% OF THE MEMBERSHIP AND AGAIN WE'RE GETTING WE GET IN THE WEEDS YEAH I MEAN IT'S ALL KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO GET PROJECTS APPROVED BUT WHEN IT'S NOT OUR FAULT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE LAID THE GROUND RULES AND NOBODY WANTED TO ABIDE BY IT SO PLEASE KNOW WE'RE NOT Y'ALL THROW THIS AT US WISH THIS WOULDN'T ACCOMPLISH AND IT DID AND I THINK WE ALL LIVED AND BREATHED IN AT LEAST WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND KNOW PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN CRIME ARE NOT GOING TO EVER STRIKE. YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY'RE GOING TO GO DOWN EASY, RIGHT? TAKE FIRST LEFT AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE SAME SITUATION WITH THE PROPOSED POCKETS SO JUST LIKE YOU KNOW I SAID IT AND I

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KNOW THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE RENTAL OVER THE EMAILS THEY ARE VERY WORRIED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET RIGHT UP TO THEIR COMMUNITY WAY WE ALLOWED EXTEND SAY AND YOU KNOW AND I'M NOT AS IT'S COMING FORWARD SO IF YOU WANT TO TABLE IT WITH CONDITIONS OF WHAT NEED TO HAVE BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING YOU WANT SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION WE CAN TO THEIR WORK AND FOR ME IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO MOVE THAT WAY I'D ASK THAT MAYBE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TOWN WOULD WOULD BE WITH STAFF JUST ONE REPRESENTATIVE SO THAT WAY THEY CAN THEN BACK TO THE ENTIRE GROUP TO BE ABLE TO TO PROVIDE THAT YOU KNOW KIND OF JUST LIKE A FOLLOW UP TO YOU KNOW ONCE WE HAVE THESE MEETING TO TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS BUT I DON'T THINK GIVEN ME OKAY WE'VE DONE THIS AND WE'VE HAD STAFF TO GO TO THE MEETINGS AND AND WE RESPECT STAFF ASSESSMENT OF THEIR MEETINGS SO. I THINK IT'S A STAFF CALL AND I DON'T THINK IT'S SEND UP THE PROBLEM. RIGHT THAT'S ANOTHER NIGHT WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. SO WHAT ARE OUR WHAT ARE WHAT DO WE WANT NO MATTER THAT NO TEXT. ALL RIGHT.

I PROPOSE THAT THE UNDER CONSIDERATION REGARDING THE MASTER PLAN FOR VILLAGE VERDIER WITHIN VILLAGE VERDIER PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TO REMOVE A PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED RESIDENTIAL ACCESS THAT THE TOWN MANAGER MAY WITH THE PROPERTY ASSOCIATION TO EXPRESS COUNCIL'S CONCERNS ABOUT AND REPLACING WITH AN EMERGENCY ROAD ONLY THE ROAD ON THE MASTER PLAN ALL PASSES Y AND Z IS THAT CLEAR? YES YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT PROPOSAL AS A MOTION IS GOING SECONDS DID YOU TABLE IT DID YOU WITH IT WHAT EXACTLY TABLE WITH WITH MOTION TABLE WITH CONDITIONS I HAVE TO SAY THAT OKAY ANY DISCUSSION IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT AUGUSTINE RIGHT IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT THIS IN MOTION THAT I WOULD AMEND THAT MOTION CAN I CAN'T DO THAT WELL TOWN MANAGER WILL BE THERE SO YOU WANT IT IN WRITING OR YEAH OKAY SO SOMEONE NEEDS I CAN'T REMEMBER MOTION IN IN HIS OWN MOTION I DON'T THINK SO WOULD YOU AND YOUR MANAGER. I'M NOT SURE NO BUT THIS IS TO THE POINT OF JUST WRONG DIRECTION OKAY DRIVE INTO TOWN. OKAY. OKAY.

SO HERE'S A MOTION TO THIS THERE'S A MOTION TABLE, THERE'S A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO BRING IT BACK BUT LITTLE THOMAS OF LOT RIGHT IN ALL THE PAPERS THEY SAYING I OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS BUT EVEN IF IT CLEARS ARE YOU WE'LL MAKE IT WORK.

[IX 4. Consideration of an Ordinance Ratifying a Non-Exclusive Easement Over Certain Real Property Owned by the Town of Bluffton Consisting of Parcel R610 036 000 1319 0000 in favor of Dominion Energy of South Carolina Inc. for the New Riverside Barn Park – Second and Final Reading – Kimberly Washok-Jones, Director of Projects and Watershed Resilience]

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THERE IS A SECOND READING CONSIDERATION NUMBER CONSIDERATION WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIND NONEXCLUSIVE EASEMENT OVER CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON THE PARCEL NUMBER LISTED FOR NEW START THERE'S WAS A THERE ANY QUESTIONS HERE IT'S NOT IF THEY'RE IN MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND TIME TO FILL IN ICE TO SAVE THEIR PROPERTY OR WHAT THE ONE THE AREA YEAH THEY'RE EVERYWHERE READING OF AN ORDINANCE EXECUTE RATIFY ALL PRIOR ACTIVITY TO THE EAST AGREEMENT INVOLVING TOWN PROPERTY LOCATED AT 30 RED HOUR DRIVE BASED ON DOCUMENTS AND EXHIBITS PROVIDED THAT THE ENERGY OF SOUTH CAROLINA SOME OF THEIR SECOND DISCUSSIONS OUR

[IX 5. Approval to Authorize a Construction Contract to Jordan Construction of Hilton Head, Inc. for Phase 2 and 3 of the Historic District Sewer Extension Project (Fiscal Impact - $1,400,411.75) - Kimberly Washok-Jones, Director of Projects and Watershed Resilience]

PAPER STATE WAS SAYING I OPPOSE CAN YOU JUST STAY IN THERE AND OUR FINAL ITEM IT WAS GOOD HAVE THE APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF HILTON HEAD BEEN FOR PHASE TWO AND THREE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SEWER PROJECT AND IT IS A FISCAL IMPACT OF 1.400 THOUSAND $411.75. IT MEANS YES THIS IS BEING REBID AND WE HAD ONE RESPONDENT WHICH WAS JORDAN CONSTRUCTION TO GO AHEAD AND START DISTRICT TWO AND THREE PHASES OF SEWER EXTENSION IN CONNECTION THIS IS ABOUT 1100 LINEAR FEET AND WILL ELIMINATE SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND THIS IS APPROVED WITHIN THE AMENDED BUDGET FOR 2023 AND SO

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THE REQUEST IS THAT TOWN COUNCIL AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT WITH JORDAN CONSTRUCTION WITH A 20% CONTINGENCY AGAIN REALIZING THAT WE'VE BEEN RUNNING INTO IN THESE OLDER AREAS UTILITIES THAT SOMETIMES NEED TO BE RELOCATED THERE'S A HIGHER CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCE REQUEST NEXT STEPS THAN WOULD BE MOVED FORWARD WITH ZEKE WHO EMAILED ME ASKING WHAT THE STATUS OF THIS WAS.

HE WAS ANXIOUS TO GET GOING ON IT AND HE WOULD GO AHEAD AND SET FORTH THE SCHEDULE WE ARE PROPOSING AND REALLY HOPING THAT WE CAN GET THIS COMPLETED BY THE END AT LEAST PHASE TWO OF THIS FISCAL YEAR WE HAVE A 319 GRANT ASSOCIATED WITH IT FOR THE LATERAL LINE CONNECTION IS QUESTIONS ACCOUNT YES MA'AM JUST ONE. YES SIR.

SO WE'LL DO WAS THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WHEN YOU HAD IT DO THE PROJECTS SEE OUR BASE THAT WAS BASED OFF OF COST ESTIMATES WHEN WE DID PURCHASE THREE THIS CAME IN WE HAD ESTIMATED I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 750,009 HUNDRED AND IS TWICE AS MUCH AS I WOULD I HAVE.

SO I GUESS WE'RE IN A MARKET WHERE WHEN YOU CAN ONLY ONE BIDDER.

THE OTHER THING IS WHEN Y'ALL ARE DEALING WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHERE YOU'RE DEALING WITH ONLY ONE BIDDER WHICH CAN TIE YOUR HANDS, DO YOU DO YOU CARE ANY FOR ANY KIND OF COST ANALYSIS FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE I NOTICED ON THIS ONE 1136 FEET IS 1200 $32 A FOOT. I'M NOT SAYING AN OUTLANDISH PRICE I WOULDN'T HAVE WITH KNOWING THAT BUT DO KIND OF SO THERE ARE YOU SIR THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF FACTORS THAT TIE INTO THIS THIS HIGH RESPONSE HIGHER THAN HIGHER THAN ENGINEER ESTIMATED RESPONSE FROM OUR DESIGN ENGINEERS AGAIN BASED BACK ON THE COST WHEN WE LAST COMPLETED SEWER PROJECT WAS PRICHARD STREET AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS IN BETWEEN THAT EVEN WITH TRYING TO ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR PRICE INCREASES SOME OF THESE SOME OF THESE COSTS HAVE JUST GONE ON EXPONENTIALLY ON MATERIAL SO THERE'S THAT PIECE OF IT THE MAJOR DRIVER OF THIS IS SAVING HUGE 80 PLUS INCH LIVE OAK ON BRIDGE STREET WITH DOING A I THINK IT'S A 16 INCH I CAN'T REMEMBER I THINK IT'S 400 FOOT DIRECTIONAL BORE UNDERNEATH IT THAT IS THE LION'S SHARE OF IT AND WE'VE TRIED TO EXHAUST ALL OPTIONS FOR DESIGN ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE FOR JASPER WATER SEWER AUTHORITY INCLUDING ASKING FOR PRIVATE EASEMENT PRIVILEGES AND PROPERTY OWNERS SO THAT WE COULD RUN A SMALLER BORE ACROSS PRIVATE PROPERTY INSTEAD OF DOWN BRIDGE STREET AND THEY REFUSED TO DO THAT. WE'RE JUST AT A STALEMATE AT LEAST WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT. WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO GO AHEAD AND THIS FORWARD AND COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS. DOES THAT ANSWER SIR? WE CONTINUOUSLY KEEP UPDATING OUR COST ESTIMATES BECAUSE THEY CHANGING RAPIDLY. THANK YOU.