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CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY.I'M GOING TO DECLARE THIS MEETING SESSION.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
YOU ALL.PLEASE RISE AND DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.
ALLEGIANCE, FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME ALL RIGHT SOMETIMES OF THIS MIC? I DON'T GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE MIC, SO IF YOU NEED TO GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, FEEL FREE TO DO THAT.
NOTICE HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, UH, THROUGH
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – February 6, 2023]
ALL THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 6TH.ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS, ADDITION, DELETIONS TO THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF FEBRUARY 6TH.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, OF THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 6TH.
[6. CITIZEN COMMENTS – NON‐AGENDA ITEMS]
AGENDA WHERE, UM, CITIZEN COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS, CITIZEN COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS ARE ALLOWED.THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS POINT.
ONE REQUEST FOR A NON AGENDA RELATED ITEM FROM A CATHERINE, I HOPE I PRONOUNCE THIS CORRECTLY.
UM, GIVE US AGAIN YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, MY NAME IS CATHERINE SIEBER.
MY ADDRESS IS 3,900 BENTLEY DRIVE, COLUMBIA, SOUTH CAROLINA, OH, 29,210.
UM, SO I AM HERE MOSTLY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S NECESSARY.
I HAVE A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN ARCHEOLOGICAL SCIENCE, A MASTER'S DEGREE IN ARCHEOLOGICAL SCIENCE.
I'M FINISHING MY PHD AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE LOW COUNTRY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.
I AM DOING ALL THE ARCHEOLOGY FOR HISTORIC MITCHELL FREEDOM PARK, UM, ON HILTON HEAD.
AND I'VE WORKED A LOT IN THE LOW COUNTRY IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
SO I'M THE ARCHEOLOGIST WHO DID THE ARCHEOLOGY AT PINE ISLAND.
UM, AND I WAS, AT THE TIME THERE WAS TWO PINE ISLANDS.
FOR THE PINE ISLAND GOLF COURSE SITUATION.
I WAS THE ARCHEOLOGIST, CONTRACTED FOR THAT AT THE TIME.
I, I, UM, STARTED DOING THAT WORK WAS DECEMBER OF 2021 WHEN I WORKED FOR A COMPANY CALLED NEW SOUTH ASSOCIATES OUT OF COLUMBIA, SOUTH CAROLINA.
AND I WAS HIRED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I SPECIALIZE IN HOW TO DO ARCHEOLOGY WITH, BY AND FOR COMMUNITIES AND HOW TO CREATE ARCHEOLOGICAL DATA THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO EDUCATION PROGRAMS K THROUGH 12.
UM, AND SO I WAS SPECIFICALLY SOUGHT OUT BECAUSE I HAVE DONE WORK AT MITCHELLVILLE AND BECAUSE I DID WORK IN THE LOW COUNTRY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, UM, I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO DO MY WORK AT PINE ISLAND.
WE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND STATE STANDARDS.
ALL OF THE STATE STANDARDS FOR SOUTH CAROLINA AND FEDERAL STANDARDS WERE MAINTAINED, BUT WE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID THE BEST JOB THAT WE COULD.
UM, AND I TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THE WORK THAT I DID THERE BECAUSE I, I WENT INTENTIONALLY BEYOND THE STANDARD TO MAKE SURE WE DID A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB TO DO GOOD SCIENCE, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATED ANY SORT OF COMMUNITY NEED AND CREATE A SITUATION IN WHICH THE HERITAGE COULD BE USED FOR GULLAH EDUCATION IN THE FUTURE.
SO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE DOING WORK WITH CONTRACTORS, THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE ARCHEOLOGY AND FULL DOSE IT, PUSH IT UNDER THE GROUND.
IT'S NOT LEGALLY REQUIRED ON PRIVATE LAND TO SAVE ARCHEOLOGY.
AND SO I WAS VERY EXCITED TO WORK WITH PINE ISLAND GC BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DOCUMENTED EVERYTHING PROPERLY.
EVERYTHING HAS A POTENTIAL TO BE PRESERVED AND EVERYTHING IS DOCUMENTED AT THE STATE LEVEL IN A WAY THAT MOST DEVELOPERS WOULD NOT DO.
AND OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, I HAVE WATCHED THIS SCENARIO PLAY OUT AND I UNDERSTAND FULLY WHAT THE, WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, UM, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS OF MY LIFE.
BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND IN TERMS OF THE SCIENCE AND IT WAS NOT REQUIRED.
THE WORK THAT WE DID, WE WENT FAR BEYOND WHAT
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IS REQUIRED.AND I WAS VERY PROUD TO WORK ON THAT PROJECT FOR THOSE REASONS.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL KNEW THAT.
GOING INTO THE DECISION MEETING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EXPERTISE IN PROFESSIONALISM AND DOING THAT WORK.
HAVE YOU DONE WORK? HMM? HAVE YOU DONE WORK FOR BLUFFTON? I HAVE, YES.
ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT HAVE COME FOR YOU? NO.
I GUESS WE'LL TAKE OURSELVES INTO, UH, THE ACTION ITEMS FOR THE NIGHT.
[7. TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE (CDC): APPENDIX B.3 (PERMITTED USES AND DEFINITIONS) TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS FOR SHORT‐TERM RENTALS IN THE DAUFUSKIE ISLAND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE]
THE AGENDA.UH, UH, TEXT AMENDMENT TO, UH, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UM, APPENDIX B THREE TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS FOR SHORT TERM REYNOLDS IN THE DEF FUSS ISLAND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UM, SO SOME OF YOU MIGHT KNOW, BUT SOME OF YOU, THIS COULD BE NEW TO IS NOT LONG AGO IN 2020, UH, BUFORD COUNTY TASK FORCE AND STUDY THE ISSUE ADOPTED SHORT TERM RENTAL.
CAN YOU MOVE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC? CAN ANYBODY HEAR, CAN YOU MIND, CAN YOU ALL HEAR HIM? NO.
UM, SO IN THOSE STANDARDS, THE COUNTY WORKED VERY HARD AND ESTABLISHED A PROCESS AND GENERAL STANDARDS FOR WHEN YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
WHEN THE COUNTY DID DO THAT THOUGH, THEY KIND OF LEFT THE COMMUNITY PRESERVATION DISTRICTS ALONE, ALLOWED THEM TO KIND OF DECIDE WHAT WOULD WORK BEST FOR THEM.
AND I THINK NOT LONG AGO IN 2021, YOU ALL SAW MORE RECENTLY, ONE COME ACROSS FOR LADIES ISLAND.
SO NOW TONIGHT WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE ONE THAT, OR DSKY ISLAND.
SO DSKY ISLAND IS SIMILAR IN APPROACH, BUT A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A DSKY ISLAND COUNCIL.
AND THAT COUNCIL HAS BEEN MEANING TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW.
AND THEY'VE, UH, BEEN GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS ON THE ISLAND WORKING WITH STAFF.
WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THEY TOOK A VERY STRONG, UM, APPROACH TO BEING VERY ACTIVE IN THIS PROCESS.
AND THERE IS A MEMBER HERE TONIGHT OF COUNSEL THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THAT EXPERIENCE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO KIND OF LAY THE FOUNDATION BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT.
AND WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE DO HAVE TO LOOK.
WHAT THEY BASICALLY DID IS THEY TOOK WHAT THE WORK WAS DONE BY BEAUFORD COUNTY AND THAT COMMITTEE KIND OF GRABBED IT AND JUST LIKE DUFUS ISLANDS COUNCIL, I'M SORRY, CODE IS SIMILAR TO IT, IT, BUT IT RELATES MORE TO DUFUS ISLAND.
AND THEY TOOK THE SAME APPROACH IN REGARDS TO THE SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THE, BUT WHAT THEY DID IS THEY MADE IT MORE RELATED TO THEIR ISLAND DE FUSS ISLAND IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY QUITE DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF OTHER AREAS CONSIDERING IT DOESN'T HAVE A BRIDGE.
THERE ARE CARS THERE, BUT YOU CANNOT DRIVE TO THE ISLAND.
SO THERE WERE APPROACHES TAKEN OR THINGS THAT WERE CONSIDERED THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE MAINLAND'S SHORT TERM RENTALS.
UM, REAL QUICK, I COULD JUST SAY THAT A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY THERE ARE A LITTLE KIND OF DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE CURRENT SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROGRAM.
WE HAVE COUNTYWIDE OR THE FOLLOWING.
ONE, THEY CAME TO AN AGREEMENT FOR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR GRANDFATHERING EXISTING SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT CURRENTLY ARE ONTO FUE ALLEN UP TO A CERTAIN PART OR POINT THAT IF YOU WERE OPERATING AND DOING IT AND MET CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT YOU WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN AND YOU JUST HAVE TO COME AND APPLY FOR YOUR PERMIT.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO BE A LEGITIMATE OPERATION.
YOU CAN'T BE RUNNING A SHORT TERM RENTAL OUT OF A TENT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT, NOT GONNA GET GRANDFATHERED.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY CONSIDERED AND LOOKED AT HAVING WHAT WOULD BE A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY IN THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
CAUSE IF ALL PRI PRIMARILY ALL OF THESE HOMES WILL BE SERVED BY WELL AND SEPTIC, NOT WATER AND SEWER.
UM, AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT REALLY KIND OF CAME DOWN INTO DISTRICTS AND ZONING DISTRICTS AND KIND OF MATCHING HOW THE COUNTIES WERE AS THEY HAVE SOME DISTRICTS, UH, THAT ARE PRIMARILY WELL AND SEPTIC THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED MORE OF THE RURAL AREAS, RESIDENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS WHERE THEY HAVE IT AS A SPECIAL USE, MEANING THAT SOMEBODY COULD APPLY FOR IT AND IT GOES THROUGH A SPECIAL USE PROCESS AND HAS A ZONING BOARD, PUBLIC HEARING FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST SOME OF THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE HIGHER IN INTENSITY, SIMILAR TO LIKE MIXED USE DISTRICTS THAT ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOME OF THESE NON-RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIALS.
THESE WILL BE WHERE THEIR PERMITTED USES.
AND THE IDEA TO DUSKY WAS, IS THEY WANTED TO, UM, FOCUS THESE
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USES TOWARDS THESE DISTRICTS BY MAKING THEM PERMITTED AND HELP PRESERVE THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN THE MORE RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS BY MAKING THEM SPECIAL USE.UM, SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A YEAR'S WORTH OF WORK IN FIVE MINUTES TO OKAY.
BETH, TRY TO EXPLAIN IT AND I, YOU KNOW, I CAN DO MY BEST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, BUT BETH HERE IS A MEMBER OF COUNCIL, I THINK WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO REALLY KIND OF GET INTO MAYBE SOME PROCESS THAT THEY HAD OR THE AISLE UNDER WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH IN THE LAST YEAR TO GET TO THIS POINT.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. DAVIS? MR. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, FROM THE, FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE, DID YOU SAY THAT UH, SEWER AND WATER MUST BE AVAILABLE ON DUSKY? NO, SEWER AND WATER IS VERY LIMITED ON DUOS.
SO PART OF THE IDEA OF THE CONSIDERATIONS OF DSKY ISLAND WAS THE FACT THAT IT IS VERY LIMITED IN ITS ABILITY TO BE SERVED BY WATER AND SEWER.
AND MOST IF NOT ALL OF THESE AREAS WILL BE SERVED BY WELL AND SEPTIC AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO APPLY ONLINE.
IS THEY PERMIT AND THEY'RE APPLICANT APPLICATION HAVE TO GET 'EM ON A BOAT COME OVER SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THEY WOULD HAVE SHORT TERM RENTAL WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION.
AND THEN BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS A PERMITTED USE OR A SPECIAL USE WOULD DICTATE THE PATH TOWARDS SEEKING THAT APPROVAL.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE BOAT, GET THE CAR, COME OVER HERE, GO BACK TO APPLY.
THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH, THROUGH AN EMAIL.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE DO LIKE TO COME AND MEET WITH PEOPLE, BUT THEY CAN APPLY, THEY CAN FILL OUT AN APPLICATION AND APPLY SO IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
I THINK THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE HUSKY THAT OWN PROPERTY THAT LIVE OUTTA STATE OR OUT OF THE COUNTY.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE I'M THINKING ABOUT TOO.
I THINK HE WAS THINKING TOO ABOUT, UM, IF IT'S NECESSARY TO GO BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, DEFINITELY.
UM, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A TRIP IN THIS ROOM.
WELL THAT THEY MEET AT NIGHT AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING A BOAT BACK OVER AT, AT NIGHT BECOMES A HARDSHIP.
SO I, I THINK THE CONSIDERATION OF OF ACCESS TO FROM THE RESIDENCE OR FROM PEOPLE OWNED PROPERTY TO AND FROM DUFFORD COUNTY NEEDS BE PART OF THE PROCESS FOR APPROVAL.
SOME CONSIDERATION, WHETHER IT'S A ZOOM CALL OR WHETHER IT'S A I I JUST NOTE THAT CUZ I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE AN UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP FOR THEM.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ON OR NO.
OH, THERE, THE GREEN LIGHT SHOULD BE ON IF IT IS
AND I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S A PROCEDURAL ISSUE AND IT COULD BE HANDLED THROUGH THE WAY THE Z B O A DECIDES TO CONDUCT YEAH.
I NOTED, PUT IN SOME OF THE CORRESPONDENCE.
UM, WHEN WAS THE HALF A MILLION DOLLAR INSURANCE POLICY ADDED? I'M SORRY, $500,000 INSURANCE LIABILITY INSURANCE.
WAS THAT ADDED ORIGINALLY OR IS THAT SOMETHING NEW? I BELIEVE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT FUS GALLON COUNCIL ADDED IN.
THAT WAS SOMETHING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN THE COUNTY'S VERSION.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT DSKY ISLAND FELT THEY THOUGHT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEM.
UM, DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW MUCH HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF INSURANCE OR FOR LIABILITY INSURANCE COSTS? I'M NOT.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. DAVIS? I HAVE A FEW OTHERS HERE.
YOU HAVE A FEW OTHERS? NO FOR HIM.
I'VE GOT ONE WHEN YOU'RE DONE NOW, A GENERAL COMMENT.
WE CAN COME BACK TOO IF WE YEAH.
UM, IS IT, UM, GONNA HOPE, UM, IS BETH MCINTYRE MCINTYRE, UM, REPRESENTING THE, UH, DI COUNCIL FROM THE AFUS ALLEY? I'M THE SECRETARY OF THE DI COUNCIL.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE? JOHN SHARPNER.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK AS REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE OTHER HALF OF THIS AS WELL.
DO YOU NEED THE A YOU NEED MY ADDRESS? UM, I ARE WE GOOD? YEAH, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD.
I'M THE SECRETARY OF THE DUSKY ISLAND COUNCIL.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE DOCUMENT BEFORE YOU.
I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE PROCESS AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
THIS WAS AND IS AN ISSUE THAT CONTINUES TO DIVIDE OUR ISLAND HOME.
THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE WAS DRAGGED THROUGH THE, THE PROVERBIAL MUD ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
OUR MOTIVES ARE INTEGRITY AND OUR LOYALTY, AND SOMETIMES OUR SANITY WAS QUESTIONED.
OUR ISLAND IS SMALL, ABOUT 550 YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS,
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WHICH MAKES THESE ISSUES MUCH MORE PERSONAL.DAR SKEE ISLAND ASSOCIATION FOR RESPONSIBLE RENTERS IS A GROUP FORM SPECIFICALLY TO PROMOTE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
EVERY MEMBER HAS A PERSONAL OR MONETARY STAKE IN THE OUTCOME OF THIS RECOMMENDATION.
I COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR ACTIVISM, THEIR ORGANIZATION, AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO COMPROMISE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE ISLAND.
AFTER MONTHS OF DIFFICULT NEGOTIATIONS, A PROPOSAL FROM THE CODES COMMITTEE WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE FULL COUNCIL AND VOTED DOWN.
THAT MEETING DEVOLVED INTO TOTAL CHAOS.
OUR NEXT STEP WAS TO CONTACT PLANNING TO GET MORE INFORMATION TO DETERMINE THE PATH FORWARD.
ONCE DI COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DAR SPOKE WITH PLANNING, OUR NEW MANDATE WAS SIMPLY STATED.
WE NEEDED TO ANSWER TWO QUESTIONS REGARDING STR, WHERE DO YOU WANT THEM AND HOW DO YOU WANT THEM? IT WAS AFTER THIS MEETING, THE COUNCIL CHAIR WROTE THE FINAL DRAFT, WHICH WAS PRESENTED AT THE DECEMBER, 2022 COUNCIL MEETING.
AFTER MUCH DEBATE AND DISCUSSION, THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU WAS THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION.
THAT DOCUMENT WAS PASSED BY MAJORITY VOTE.
SIX OF THE SEVEN MEMBER BODY WERE PRESENT FOR THE VOTE, AND FIVE VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
ONLY ONE ABSTAINED OVER THE GRANDFATHERING CLAUSE.
WE UNDERSTAND TOURISM IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF THE ISLAND.
IT IS THE REASON THAT ISLANDERS HAVE JOBS.
THEY'RE THE ECONOMIC DRIVER OF THE ISLAND.
THE ISLAND HAS GONE THROUGH A SEISMIC SHIFT, FIRST HIGH-SPEED INTERNET, AND THEN A WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC OCCURRED SHORTLY AFTER.
THE ISLAND PROVIDED A SAFE HAVEN FOR THOSE LOOKING TO ESCAPE AND PROVIDE A SENSE OF NORMALCY TO PEOPLE WHO NOW FOUND THEY COULD WORK FROM HOME.
PEOPLE SAW THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE A HOME, AND THEN THE ABILITY TO RENT OUT THAT HOME TO HELP DEFRAY THE COST.
IT WAS A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
HOWEVER, FOR OUR ISLAND NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY BEGAN TO SEE THE SHIFT IN ACTIVITY, WHICH IMPACTED THE USE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE USE OF THEIR HOMES.
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT FROM DAR ABOUT SECRET COUNCIL MEETINGS, PERSONAL AGENDAS, MISREPRESENTATION BY THE COUNCIL.
THE REALITY IS NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE TRUE.
THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT THE PROCESS, PROCESS WE HAVE SET FORTH AS SUITABLE IS TO HONOR US MOST OF THE DUSKY ISLAND COUNCIL VIEWS.
IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO NOT LIMIT STR BY ALLOWING THOSE OWNERS TO USE STR AS A WAY TO DEFRAY THE COST OF OWNERSHIP, PROVIDE FOR TOURISM TO TAKE PLACE WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ALLOWING NEIGHBORHOODS A FINAL SAY IN HOW THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS DEVELOP.
AS A COUNCIL, OUR MANDATE IS SIMPLE.
THIS IS FROM OUR BYLAWS TO POOL EFFORTS, WHICH SHALL ENHANCE THE VALUES AND PROTECT THE INVESTMENTS OF ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, RESIDENTS, AND TO ACCOMMODATE RESPONSIBLE GROWTH WHILE MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER AND PRESERVING THE CULTURE OF DUFUS ISLAND.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE DOCUMENT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ACCOMPLISHES THIS.
MAYBE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, THANK YOU FOR SERVING AS WELL.
I'VE HAD SOME WORK IN THE HUSKY.
UH, WE GOT ANOTHER LETTER THAT THAT WASN'T VERY POSITIVE AND THIS ONE WAS GREAT.
IS THERE TWO GROUPS ON THE HUSKY HAVE THAT HAVE A VOICE OR JUST YOU? SO WE HAVE THE COUNCIL, AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, OUR ISLAND HAS BEEN SPLIT ON THIS ISSUE.
WE HAVE A LARGE CONTINGENCY THAT WANTS STR IN CONDITIONAL USE.
AND THEN WE HAVE ISLAND NEIGHBORS THAT WANT BASICALLY NO STR TO STOP THE PROLIFERATION.
SO THE ONLY WAY WE COULD SEE FORWARD WAS TO USE SPECIAL USE PERMITTING.
AS PART OF YOUR REVIEW PROCESS, PUBLIC MEETINGS, YOU HELD PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THIS? YES, WE DID.
WAS THERE ANY PUBLIC THERE WAS A LOT OF INPUT.
AND, AND YOU, SO THE COUNCIL REACHED, REACHED THEIR CONCLUSION WITH THAT INPUT AS WELL? YES.
WITH THAT INPUT, EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THAT NEEDED TO YES.
WE HAD THE PEOPLE THAT WERE AGAINST STR DID NOT ATTEND COUNCIL MEETINGS BECAUSE WHEN I SAY WE WERE ATTACKED, I MEAN, WE WERE ATTACKED AND THEY DID NOT WANT TO BE PART OF THAT.
SO WE GOT EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS SAYING WE NEED TO STOP THIS.
AND SO WE TOOK THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION.
OTHER QUESTIONS? HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OF THE COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE OR COUNCIL WITH, WITH CORRECT.
UM, THE COUNCIL, THERE'S SEVEN MEMBERS ON THE COUNCIL.
AND HOW MANY OF THEM OWN SDRS? I DON'T THINK ANY OF OWN SDRS.
WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A BALANCE.
AND YOU'RE THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER? YES, SIR.
DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THIS? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO WELL
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GO.I HAVE BEEN ON THE HUSKY COUNCIL FOR 12 YEARS.
I WAS JUST REELECTED FOR ANOTHER THREE, UH, THREE YEAR TERM.
I WAS ON THE CODES COMMITTEE WHEN THEY, UH, UPDATED THE, THE CODES THAT WERE PASSED BY BUFORD COUNTY IN 2018.
I WAS ON THE CODES COMMITTEE THIS PAST YEAR, UH, HANDLING THE, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF ARGUMENTATIVE DEBATES, CERTAIN DEBATES ON THE SUBJECT.
UH, THE CODES COMMITTEE WAS MADE UP OF THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UH, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CODES COMMITTEE WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
SHE HANDPICKED MOST OF THE COMMITTEE.
THEY WERE, UH, APPRISED OF AR UH, ARCHITECTS INSTRUCTION, UH, CONTRACTORS.
UM, BUT ALSO HAD, UH, TWO MEMBERS OF THE, UH, COMMITTEE THAT OWNED AND OPERATE A CODES WRITING COMPANY.
AND THEY HELPED US WRITE OUR CODES BEFORE IN THEY DO TI ISLAND.
SO THE CODES WAS, THE STRS WAS A BIG PROBLEM.
UH, SO THE, THE CODES COMMITTEE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY TOO MUCH ABOUT WHAT STR WERE.
SO WE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM OTHER STATES AROUND OTHER CITIES, HOW THEY WERE HANDLING.
WE PUT OUT THREE DIFFERENT SURVEYS THAT WERE CONDUCTED AND MADE BY THE COMPANY THAT DOES CODE WRITING.
AND THREE, THERE'S THREE SURVEYS WERE PUT OUT.
AND 66 60, BETWEEN 60 AND 60% OF THE RESPONDENTS SAID THEY FAVORED THE SHORT TERM RENTALS WITH CONDITION PERMITS.
THREE THREE SURVEY, THREE DIFFERENT SURVEYS WENT OUT THREE DIFFERENT TIMES.
THEY CAME BACK WITH THE SAME RATIO.
SO THE CODES COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER A CODE FOR THE SHORT TERMS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF CONDITIONAL PERMITS.
IT WAS PASSED BY UNANIMOUS A HUNDRED PERCENT IN THE CODES COMMITTEE.
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CODES COMMITTEE PASSED.
IT WAS THEN SENT TO THE BUFORD, UH, TO THE, THE PROSKY, UH, ISLAND COUNCIL WHERE IT WAS STRICTLY VOTED DOWN.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD A PREDETERMINED IDEA OF WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO IN SHORT TERM RENTALS.
AND THEY DID NOT ADHERE TO THE WILL OF THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE I DID VOTE AGAINST.
UM, WE WERE AGAINST THE, THE SPECIAL PERMITS BECAUSE IT PITS ONE NEIGHBOR AGAINST THE OTHER.
IF MR. SMITH, DOES IT WANT MR. JONES TO HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL, HE'LL COME UP HERE AND SAY, I DON'T LIKE THIS.
THEN YOU CREATE ANIMOSITY IN THE NEIGHBORS.
YOU'RE SAYING IT IS A VERY HARDSHIP FOR US TO GET UP HERE TO DO THE, UH, SPECIAL PERMITS.
WE HAVE TO COME UP HERE, TALK TO YOU, GO BACK THEN.
I'VE TAKEN ME FOUR MONTHS TO GET A, A PERMIT OR ZONING PERMIT TO OPEN UP A STORE.
I'M FORTUNATE I WORK FOR HEAD POINT.
I CAN GET ON YOUR BOAT AT ANY TIME, BUT IT'S TAKEN ME FOUR OR FIVE TIMES TO GET UP HERE JUST TO GET THAT ONE LITTLE PERMIT.
I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT'D BE LIKE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO COME UP HERE AND TRY TO GET A, UH, PERMIT FOR THEIR SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THAT'S THE BLOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WEES WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO, UH, RECONSIDER THE, UH, PERMIT USE AND MAKE IT CONDITIONAL.
UH, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
MR. SHARPNER, UH, WOULD THE COUNTY LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED IN TERMS OF SPECIAL PERMIT IN THE PROCESS AND THE DIFFICULTY OF ACCESSING, UH, DID THE COUNTY FOR THAT? YEAH.
ANY, ANY CONSIDERATIONS THAT CAN BE, UH, DISCUSSED AT THIS TIME? WELL, I DO WANT TO JUST CORRECT ONE THING THAT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WOULD NOT COME FOR YOU.
ALL YOU MENTIONED THAT GOES IS COURT APPEALS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, RIGHT.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE AN ISLAND THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BRIDGE GETTING ON AND OFF.
IT'S GOT A LOT OF HEADWIND AGAINST IT.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE ACCOUNT, UH, THE COUNCIL, THE FUS COUNTY COUNCIL WAS TRYING TO BALANCE.
AND I THINK BETH MENTIONED YOU HAD SOME THAT DO WANT IT AND YOU DON'T WANT IT.
AND THAT COMPROMISE AT THE END WAS GETTING TO THAT SPECIAL USE TO ALLOW FOR SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC INPUT.
UM, THAT'S HOW WE DO IT IN THE REST OF THE COUNTY.
BUT THE REST OF THE COUNTY YOU CAN GET HERE BY A CAR.
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SO IF ACCESS IS AN ISSUE OR IT'S THE, THAT TYPE OF THING, I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO IT'S A PROCEDURAL THING FROM WHAT ROB WAS SAYING REGARDING THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT BOARD AND THAT CHAIRMAN WOULD ALLOW FOR SOME SPECIAL ZOOM FOR THESE TO BE A PART OF THAT.BUT THAT IS THERE, JUST LIKE YOU ALL HAVE YOURS AND YOU ALL MAKE YOUR CHOICE AND YOU DECIDE HOW YOURS, THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS.
UM, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT THEY WOULD ABSOLUTELY ALLOW THAT OR NOT ALLOW IT.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY ISN'T, I MEAN, WOULDN'T YOU AGREE THAT THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE ZONING BOARD'S DECISION TO ALLOW AND HOW THEY MANAGE AND RUN THEIR MEETINGS? IT'S THEIR DECISION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROVIDE STAFF SUGGESTION, YOU KNOW? SURE.
BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT I CAN'T STAND HERE AND SAY WE CAN ABSOLUTELY MAKE THEM DO IT.
YEAH, NO, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LEADING CUZ THERE'S APPEARS TO BE SOME DIFFERENTIATION ON, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A PROCEDURAL THING.
THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT A CO CODIFIED THING.
UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PIECES OF CORRESPONDENCE THAT MR. STEWART MENTIONED.
I THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO DELVE INTO THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
UM, AND THIS, BY THE WAY, UH, CAME TO THE COUNTY SO IT BECOMES A MATTER OF THE OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE COUNTY WILL BE SO RECORDED.
UM, ONE PIECE OF CORRESPONDENCE WAS FROM A, UH, DENVER SMITH AND THE OTHER CORRESPONDENCE WAS FROM, UH, UH, LEANNE MAGNEN COULTER, UH, FROM THE COUNCIL.
UM, BOTH OF, AS I SAY, BOTH WILL BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD AND BE PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS THAT WE KEEP ON, UH, ON THESE ISSUES.
UH, ANY ANY QUESTIONS RELATING TO THAT YOU WOULD CARE TO ASK REGARDING THE CORRESPONDENCE YOU RECEIVED AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE SEEN THE CORRESPONDENCE? UM, OR ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL THAT ANYBODY LEFT BEFORE WE END? TAKE THE ISSUE BACK TO OURSELVES? NO.
FOR DISCUSSION AMONGST, UH, COUNSEL, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH, I FEEL LIKE, UH, I'M COMING IN.
THERE'S FIVE SECONDS LEFT IN THE GAME AND I GOTTA MAKE A DECISION AND I'M SORRY, I JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO ME.
YOU KNOW, IF THE FOOTBALL GAME, YOU SEE THE SCORE, YOU HAVE AN IDEA HERE, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SCORING TO TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON.
APPARENTLY THIS WHOLE THING'S BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A YEAR AND IT'S GONE BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH.
AND SO I DON'T THINK I CAN DO ANY JUSTICE TO THIS WITHOUT KNOWING MORE INFORMATION.
WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO KNOW? UM, THE ECONOMICS OF THE SITUATION? APPARENTLY TOURISM IS, IS A BIG PART OF THE FRIGE ISLAND.
UM, AND BUT HOW BIG IS IT 50% OF THE REVENUES OR WHATEVER? IS IT LESS THAN THAT? IS IT MORE THAN THAT? I MEAN, IF WE MAKE A DECISION ONE WAY, DOES THAT AFFECT IT? I I JUST DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA.
WELL, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE I CAN RESPECT THAT YOU GUYS KIND OF LOTS THINGS.
YOU GUYS KIND OF GET THESE THINGS.
THE, WHAT I CAN SPEAK TO THAT IS, IS THAT, BUT YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE HERE WHO HAVE BEEN INTIMATELY INVOLVED PAST YEAR DONE THAT HAVE STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT AND WE'VE CREATED ORDINANCE AND WE'VE BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU SOMETHING.
SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO TAKE STOCK IN THAT, WHEN THAT COMES IN FRONT OF YOU, WE HAVE TO PUT SOME VALUE IN THAT PROCESS.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE ISSUE OF WHERE IT STANDS NOW, CURRENTLY UNDER FUSS ISLAND, YOU CAN'T DO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
SO THIS IS ALLOWING IT, WE ARE ALLOWING SHORT-TERM RENTALS BY GETTING THEM IN THE CODE TO ESTABLISH A PROCESS SO PEOPLE CAN MAKE THESE THINGS ILLEGAL.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A PATH FORWARD.
THAT PATH WOULD HAPPEN IF A BRIDGE WAS BUILT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WOULD MAKE THIS CHANGE AND NOW A BRIDGE WOULD BE BUILT, WOULD THAT CHANGE THE NEED TO HAVE THIS LANGUAGE? YES.
I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY ACCELERATE EVEN MORE BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD, THE DESIRE FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL COMMUNITY WOULD PROBABLY EVEN BE HIGHER.
IT WOULD BE, WE WOULD CALL THAT HILTON HEAD.
HILTON HEAD TWO? NO, I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
WELL, LET ME, UH, WE ARE, WE FINISHED THERE.
ARE YOU OKAY? DO YOU NEED, IS THERE SOMETHING, IF, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR MORE INFORMATION TO BE PRESENTED AT ANOTHER TIME, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK FOR THAT IF YOU FEEL YOU NEED IT TO MAKE A DECISION.
OH, I, YOU KNOW, I DO, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS.
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THE ORDINANCE? WHERE DID IT INITIATE? SO THE ORDINANCE WAS DRAFTED ORIGINALLY BY THE COUNTY AND THEN THE TOFUS ISLAND COUNCIL TOOK THE ORIGINAL SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE AND MADE IT SUITABLE MORE TO HOW THEY FELT IT WOULD FIT TO FOSKEY ISLAND.AND THEN THEY PASSED THAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY VOTED ON AND PASSED IT FORWARD TO PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO JUST WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL, CODIFY IT AND MAKE IT FORMATTED.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE? THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TONIGHT.
JU JUST TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT, UH, HISTORY ON THAT.
UM, WE LOOKED AT THE S STR R REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BEAUFORT COUNTY MAINLAND BACK IN 2020 AND PROVIDED AN EXTENSIVE LIST OF DETAIL, WHICH IS OUTLINED IN, UH, 30.14, I BELIEVE, OF THE CODE.
UH, I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT NUMBER, BUT THERE, IT'S EXTENSIVE.
CAUSE I WENT THROUGH THAT CODE AND COMPARED IT TO WHAT THE FUSS ALLEN HAD.
AND I SAW SOME DIFFERENCES THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED.
UM, SO YEAH, IT WAS AN EXTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS, UM, APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION BACK IN 2020 FOR THE MAINLAND.
AND THIS IS BUILT OFF OF THAT? YES.
IT'S TAKEN THREE YEARS BASICALLY.
THAT WAS THE HISTORY OF THE ANSWER.
THE MAINLAND'S ORIGINAL FOUNDATION OF STUDYING THE ISSUE.
I THINK IT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS QUITE A PROCESS COMING UP WITH THE CODE AND THE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE CURRENTLY REGULATE ALONG AROUND THE COUNTY.
SO THIS IS DSKY ISLAND'S VERSION OF THAT, WHICH THEY TOOK ALL OF THE WORK THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY AND THEN TWEAKED IT TO MAKE IT WORK FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVED WAS BETTER FOR DSKY ISLAND IS THAT'S THE PROCESS.
AND THAT'S THE DOCUMENT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
UM, HAS STAFF MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE APPROVE THIS? YES.
SO YOU, YOU DO RECOMMEND THIS? YEAH, WE, SO AS STAFF, WE HAVE BEEN GOING TO MEETINGS AND WORKING WITH THE DEKE ISLAND COUNCIL THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
WE HAVEN'T JUST BEEN LIKE, THERE YOU GO.
WE'VE BEEN THERE TO HELP THEM.
ANSWER QUESTION, UNDERSTAND LAND USE LAW.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS WE'VE HAD ON THE ISSUE.
SOME WE'VE BEEN ON THE ISLAND, SOME, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PURPOSES HAVE BEEN THROUGH A VIRTUAL PLATFORM, BUT WE'VE BEEN HERE TO TRY TO OFFER OUR SUPPORT.
WHENEVER WE GET A PHONE CALL, I TRY TO RETURN IT THAT DAY TO THEM, CUZ I KNOW THERE'S ISSUES OR INFORMATION THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
WHEN THEY SEND US EMAILS, WE TRY TO ANSWER THEM AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, SO FOR THEM TO HELP MOVE THEIR BUSINESS ALONG.
SO WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH THEM KIND OF ON THE SIDELINE, ALLOWING THEM TO FIGURE OUT THEIR BUSINESS AND WHAT WORKS FOR TAXON, PROVIDING THEM JUST THE, THE PROCESS, THE RULES, THE LAND USE LAW.
BUT THIS IS THEIR DOCUMENT AND THIS IS WHAT THEY CRAFTED CREATED, BUT IT WAS BASED IN THE COUNTY'S ORIGINAL STUDYING OF THE ISSUE AND THE BASIC LANGUAGE.
WE JUST THEN TOOK IT AND MADE IT SO IT FITS INTO A CODE FORM.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
A COMMENT HERE IS, AS RICH IN HISTORY AND HERITAGE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO LIFE BY PAT CONROY IN HIS FAMOUS BOOK, UH, I THINK IT WAS, UH, WATER IS WIDE.
UM, AND WE'VE ENTERTAINED CHANGES TO, UH, THE DIFFICULT TIMES YOU'VE GONE THROUGH IN REESTABLISHING SOME OF THE CODING OUT IN DUSKY ALLEN.
AND THIS IS A FURTHERANCE OF, OF THOSE ISSUES.
UM, SO I THINK WE'VE HEARD ALL THAT.
WE, ANYBODY THAT WANTED TO SPEAK FURTHER THAT I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS AND I HAVE QUESTIONS OR WHO, WELL, A COUPLE DO, DO THE PDS AND DUSKY PERMIT SHORT TERM RENTAL ON THEIR P ON WITH THEIR POA GUIDELINES.
SO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT? THE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS HAVE THEIR OWN GUIDELINES THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY FOR DOING SHORT-TERM RENTALS DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE OUTTA.
I THIS IS FOR THOSE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS, BECAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT CODE.
AND I, I'M SORRY TO SAY THOUGH, I'M BEEN SERVING FOR 12, 13 YEARS HERE.
WHY? WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT ABOUT D TWO AND D THREE? I'M SORRY.
WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THE ZONING DESIGNATION? D TWO AND D D THREE IN DUSKY MORE RURAL.
IT'D BE KIND OF LIKE OUR T2 HERE.
MORE RURAL, LARGER LOTS, SWELL SEPTIC, UM, LOWER DENSITY.
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ARE SIMILAR TO THE D TWO OR THE ALL THAT, WE HAVE THEM, THEY'RE LARGER LOTS.THEY'RE, IT'S MORE RURAL CHARACTER AND THEY ARE SPECIAL USES.
DO, DO WE ALLOW SHORT TERM RENTAL ON OUR T 2 23? YES.
NOW TALK TO ME ABOUT SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
WHAT DOES THAT REQUIRE? AND I'M STILL BACK ON THE 500,000.
WHAT IF THAT'S PUT IN THERE TO MAKE SURE NOBODY DOES IT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT? THAT'S WHAT I WANT KNOW.
UM, I MEAN, I THINK $10,000 FOR A 500,000 THOUSAND DOLLARS INSURANCE POLICY.
WHO'S GONNA BUILD IT? SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE CODE.
IS THAT SIMPLE? WELL, HOW DO YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT IT? I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU LOOKED INTO IT.
I WANT TO, WELL, I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK THERE WAS SOME COMPONENTS TO THE INSPECTIONS AND THE INSURANCE POLICIES THAT YOU ALL KIND OF HAD IDEAS ON FOR WHY THEY MADE IT IN THERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS FEEL IT'S IN ACCESS, THAT'S FOR YOU GUYS TO DETERMINE AND MAKE THAT AS A PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
AS I SAID, OUR JOB WAS NOT TO LIMIT ST SO THE FUS ISLAND COMMITTEE PUT THE 500,000 IN THERE, OR NOT THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE PLANNING REPRESENTATIVE? NO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN THE ORIGINAL COUNTY ONE.
THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS ADDED.
DO WE, DO WE HAVE THAT IN, IN THE COUNTY TERMINAL? NOT THAT I, NOT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF REQUIREMENTS.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT AND SOME INSPECTION COMPONENTS? NO.
ANY INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS WITH ANY CAMP OR LI IN THE COUNTY? IN THE COUNTY? YEAH.
WELL, I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT IN THE INSURANCE BUSINESS HERE.
IS THAT OUR LITTLE, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED OF ANSWERING QUESTIONS ON INSURANCE, BUT, UM, IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE, YOU HAVE TO INSURANCE IT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE NOTE ON THAT.
BUT THEY DON'T STATE HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO INSURE IT.
BUT WHEN YOU DO DO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, YOUR TAXES CHANGE AND THE TYPE OF USE THAT INSURANCE COMPANY MIGHT VERY WELL PUSH YOUR INSURANCE RATES UP.
BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE, IF I WAS IN THE INSURANCE GAME, I WOULD INCREASE YOUR FEES IF I FIND OUT YOU WERE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
BUT THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE CAP, NOT THE RATE 500,000 IS THE PROPOSED CAP HERE OR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT? MM-HMM.
IS THERE SUCH A REQUIREMENT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY OR ANY OTHER NO, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN OUR CURRENT SHORT TERM RENTAL PROGRAM FROM BEAVER COUNTY.
QUESTIONING IS THERE, CAUSE I'M SEEING TWO SIDES.
BETH, WOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADJUST THAT OR? SURE.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE CODES COMMITTEE, SO THAT'S WITH MONTHS OF NEGOTIATION BETWEEN DAR AND COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES AND THE COUNCIL WHO, I'M SORRY, WHO'S DAR? OH, SORRY.
DUFUS ISLAND FOR ASSOCIATION FOR RESPONSIBLE RENTALS.
THAT'S DEB SMITH'S GOT WHAT YOU GOT? YES.
THEY'RE CALLED DAR AGAIN, I LIKE TO COME IN AT THE LAST SECOND OF A BALLGAME AND YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PLAYERS ARE DOING.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, UM, TOURISM, WE HAVE 550 YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS.
WE WERE TOLD 200,000 PEOPLE COME TO VISIT EVERY YEAR.
SO IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART.
IT GENERATES 40 TO 50 MILLION IN REVENUE.
THAT'S, SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT INFORM.
IS THE, UM, REQUIREMENT FOR THE 500,000 LIABILITY INSURANCE AND NEGOTIABLE? YES.
I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS OUR FIRST PROPOSAL.
THIS WAS WHAT WE VOTED ON AND CAME TO TERMS WITH AND NOW WE HAND IT OVER TO YOU ALL.
IS THERE, ARE THERE OTHER DISTRICTS IN THE FUSSY THAT THIS DOES NOT COVER? OTHER THAN THE PDS? NO.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DUSKY HISTORIC DISTRICT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN PLANNING DOES, WE CONSIDER EVERYTHING OUTSIDE THE P'S HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THAT'S KIND OF TRUE AND KIND OF NOT TRUE BECAUSE THERE ARE SMALL POAS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND, MOST OF WHICH DOCUMENTS HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, BY THE WAYSIDE.
BUT IT ONLY INFLUENCES THOSE AREAS OUTSIDE THE PUDS.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RULES AND REGULATIONS.
SO THE REASON FOR D TWO D THREE AND NO OTHER ZONE IN YOUR MIND IS THAT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? THAT'S THAT'S THE ENTIRE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THERE'S A D FOUR AND ALL THE PLACES WHERE TURCO YEAH, I THINK WE GO WITH SOME MUSIC AND STUFF.
YOU CAN DRIVE INTO SOME OF THE PUDS, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE GATED NOW.
THERE'S ALREADY SOME SHORT TERM RENTALS THERE, BUT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN WITH THE P D THAT MR. WHIT.
IT'S UP TO THEM TO DETERMINE THEIR OWN I WAS BORN OR CLOSE.
AND THEN IS THAT IT, MR. CHAIRMAN? I I, I'M, I'M
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REALLY TROUBLED BY THE ARBITRARY NATURE OF THIS $500,000 AND THEN I HEARD A $10,000 FEE OR COST TO MAINTAIN A $500,000 LIABILITY POLICY.NO ONE SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT THE COST IS.
UH, I'M, I HAVE DIFFICULTY SUPPORTING THIS WITHOUT AT LEAST SOME FURTHER INFORMATION ON WHETHER THAT IS IN FACT REASONABLE OR IS IT HONORS.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CODES COMMITTEE AND NEGOTIATIONS.
WELL, AND WE CAN, IN, IN OUR CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL, WE CAN PUT THAT DOWN AS A CONDITION AND MAKE A CONDITIONAL ON APPEALING THE, UH, PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE OR REVIEWING THE PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICY.
WE CAN DO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN'T SET IT, BUT WE CAN MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF OUR APPROVAL.
SO WHERE DOES IT GO IF WE PUT THAT CONDITION ON IT TO, TO WHAT? DOES IT GO FORWARD? YEAH.
OR DOES IT STAY UNTIL WE UNTIL WE GO I, I I BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE WHAT IT WOULD BE THEN IT WOULD GO BACK TO THE, IT WOULD GO NEXT TO THE LAND USE AND COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE.
YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD MOVE ON TO COUNTY COUNCIL TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING MM-HMM.
AND THEY COULD REVIEW IT AND THEY COULD UNDERSTAND THE CONDITION AND THEY COULD SUPPORT IT OR SAY NO.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD THEY SEND IT BACK TO US IF IT'S, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED? DO WE HAVE A SECOND BITE AT THE END? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
I MEAN, I DON'T, WE WOULD, I MEAN, WELL, WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD TABLE IT UNTIL WE HEAR MORE ON THE ISSUE.
WE COULD, THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY WE'D BE SURE IT'D COME BACK TO US, GET ANOTHER BITE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WOULD COME BACK TO US IF WE PUT IT DOWN AS CONDITIONAL TO FOR APPEAL OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
I, BUT I, I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND FOR THE PURPOSES OF TIMING, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WANT TO GET THEIR SHORT TERM RENTALS UP AND RUNNING FOR THIS SEASON.
REMEMBER CURRENTLY THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED.
UM, SO I WANNA BE FAIR TO THE COMU, WE WANNA BE FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY IN TOTAL.
SO IF YOU ALL HAVE A CONCERN WITH A PARTICULAR PORTION OF THAT LANGUAGE, LIKE YOU'RE SPEAKING ON THAT, I WOULD, YOU ALL CAN DO IT.
I WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING IT FORWARD IF WHEN IT GETS TO COUNCIL, TO YOUR POINT, IF IT GETS SO CHANGED THE POINT WHERE THEY THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO YOU TO LOOK AT IT FOR A NEW RECOMMENDATION.
WE CAN TAKE UPON, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AT THAT TIME.
THAT'S HARD TO KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RE IT WOULD'VE TO BE REVIEWED BY THE CODES COMMITTEE THEN APPROVED BY THE, I GUESS THE COUNCIL.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR TO HAVE THEM TAKE A SHOT AT IT WITH Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION, WITH WHATEVER CHANGES THAT YOU ALL MIGHT LIKE.
TO THEN DECIDE HOW THAT COULD WORK.
WELL I HEARD THAT AS THE MAJOR OBJECTION COMING FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT MEMBERS.
SO I GUESS, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CLARIFYING THESE TWO, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CLARIFICATION.
ONE IS AGAINST THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND THE OTHER ONE'S NOT.
SO, SO ONE REPRESENT 80% OF THAT OF THE RESIDENTS, OR ONLY 20% OF THE RESIDENTS? TWO TWO PIECES OF TWO DOCUMENTS.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT QUESTION.
WELL, ONE APPEARS GO BACK TO THE PROCESS COUNT NUMBER, RIGHT.
SO I'M ASSUMING IT'S A, A PROPERTY OWNER.
AND THIS WOULD BE, SO YOU HAVE TWO LETTERS.
WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WHEN YOU'RE DISCUSSING THE MATTER, THEY DISCUSS IT FOR A YEAR.
WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS FROM COUNCIL FROM HERE.
SO, I MEAN, THE THING IS, WE, WE, WE CAN ASK THESE PEOPLE TO COME FORWARD IF WE FEEL THAT'S NECESSARY.
UH, ONE APPEARS TO BE BE A RESIDENCE.
AS I SAY, THE OTHER ONE APPEARS TO BE A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.
AND WE'VE GOT TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HERE.
UH, THE RECORDS WILL NOTE THE OBJECTION OF THE PRIVATE RESIDENT.
UH, IT'S PART OF THE, I'VE SEEN THAT, UM, THERE ARE MULTIPLE OBJECTIONS FROM MEMBERS, AS YOU SAY, IT WAS 60, 65% APPROVAL.
UM, SO LEMME TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT NOW.
JUST SAY THAT THE RESIDENT, YOU'RE TALKING, DEB SMITH IS THE CO-CHAIR OF THE,
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SHE'S SHE'S THE PROPERTY MANAGER OF THE ISLAND.THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ONE, GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
I, I NEED TO HAVE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE, UH, THE TEXT AMENDMENT AS SO STATED OR MODIFIED AS SO WISHED.
IF I NEED A MOTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
WELL, I, I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL WE CAN RESOLVE THIS MATTER TO APPROVE A MOTION, UH, WITH A $500,000 INSURANCE POLICY THAT PLACES A ECONOMIC PENALTY OF 10,000.
I I KNOW THAT WAS, THAT CAME I HAVE NO, I HAVE NO IDEA.
IT'S A PART OF A HOMEOWNER'S POLICY, I WOULD IMAGINE.
BUT THAT'S WHICH IS USUALLY SET BY THE INSURANCE COMPANY, NOT BY, YEAH.
UH, AND IT COULD BE THAT IT'S SO ECONOMICALLY UNFEASIBLE THAT WE ARE REALLY VOTING TO SAY WE'RE GONNA PERMIT IT, BUT, UH, EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY A HORRIBLE INSURANCE PENALTY TO DO IT, IN WHICH CASE WE'RE REALLY SAYING WE'RE NOT APPROVING IT.
I, I, THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH INFORMATION, ROB.
I'M SORRY, BUT THIS JUST LACKS HOMEWORK.
I MEAN, I, WE, WE DON'T KNOW, AND I CAN'T VOTE FOR WHAT I DON'T KNOW.
SO I MOVE TO TABLE IT AND ASK OUR STAFF AND OR THE, UH, PETITIONERS TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE AND BRING US BACK SOLID FACTS THAT WE CAN VOTE ON IN A MORE DEFINITIVE MANNER.
DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION? THE MOTION SECOND.
I HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION.
I NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE VOTE? YEAH, I'M, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROCESS.
UM, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE DUFUS ISLAND COUNCIL FOR OVER A YEAR.
UM, THEY'RE A GROUP THAT IS ON THE ISLAND TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY REPRESENT ISLAND ISSUES AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY BROUGHT FORWARD MATCH VERY CLOSELY WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE CODE.
AND I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER IF THIS ISSUE OF INSURANCE IS, IS, IS SUCH A STICKING POINT, WE WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THIS THING MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT CONDITION THAT, THAT NOT THAT, THAT BE AMENDED SO THAT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT INSURANCE RATHER THAN DELAY FOR A MONTH TO, TO RESEARCH AN ISSUE THAT CURRENTLY WE DON'T REQUIRE IN, IN OUR CODE FOR OTHER SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
SO THAT I, I JUST GIMME MORE REASON.
IF IT'S NOT IN ANY OTHER CODE, WHY SHOULD WE HAVE IT THERE? WELL, THAT'S MY POINT.
IS IF THIS IS THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS, THEN COULD THIS MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT STRICKEN FROM THE, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S STRICKEN FROM, FROM THE DRAFT.
SO THE MOTION IS TO TABLE YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, NOT TABLE, BUT WE MOVE IT FORWARD, BUT ELIMINATE THE INSURANCE CERTIFICATE, UM, LIABILITY INSURANCE THAT'S SO STATED IN THE DOCUMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT, I MAY WELL THE, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT A MOTION ON DID YOU WANT TO, THAT CONCERNS VOTING FOR IT OR NOT VOTING FOR IT.
SO WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT, UM, ARE FOUR SPECIAL PERMIT AND AGAINST SPECIAL PERMIT.
AND I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT AT THE SAME TIME WHILE WE HAVE THAT TIME TO LOOK AT THE INSURANCE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD POSTPONE AS WELL AS THE FINANCIAL, THERE'S SOME PLACES THAT, THAT, THAT MAY JUST THROW PEOPLE OUT.
BUT WE'VE GOT ONE, ONE LETTER THAT SAYS THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE AGAINST SPECIAL PERMITTING.
AND ANOTHER LETTER THAT SAYS VOTED FOR SPECIAL PERMITTING.
SO WHAT DO, WHAT DO WE DO
BUT OUR STAFF WORKED WITH THE TOFUS ISLAND COUNCIL IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT
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THEY VOTED TO BRING FORWARD.DO WE HAVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS IN THE COUNTY CODE? YES.
THEY'RE VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE.
UM, THERE, IT'S A SPECIAL USE IN ALL DISTRICTS EXCEPT FOR, UM, C4 AND C5, WHICH ARE TWO COMMERCIAL, UH, DISTRICTS.
UM, WE HAVE A, A MOTION FOR TABLE.
AND HE HAD A SECOND BEING NO FURTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO TABLE RAISE THEIR HAND.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED RAISE THEIR HAND.
I, YOU CAN'T, YOU, YOU HAVEN'T DECIDED YES OR NO.
HUH? THE MOTION CARRIES FOR PLACE.
WHEN IT TO TIE, THE MOTION FAILS.
THE AB SECTIONS ALLOWED, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT IMPACTS THE VOTING.
I THINK THE MOTION IS ALL, I IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, WE'LL STAND CORRECTED.
BUT IF IT'S A 33 TIE THE MOTION'S TO FEED IT.
DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION, FOLKS.
WE CAN'T NOT HAVE A MOTION, NOT HAVE EMOTION MR. CHAIRMAN DISCUSSION.
HOW ABOUT MORE DISCUSSION? WELL, I MEAN, HOW ABOUT THE IDEA OF SINCE THE, UH, VACATION SEASON'S ABOUT GONNA BE OCCUR, UH, THE DIFFICULTY OF GETTING ON AND OFF THE FISKE ISLAND.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE COUNCIL TO GO TO THE FISKE ISLAND AND MEET SO MANY PEOPLE AND GIVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM? AND THE PLACE IT ALSO BE VIRTUAL? WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.
WE DID IT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS DURING COVID.
WELL, YOU WANNA DIRECT YOUR QUESTION TO MR. MERCHANT? YES.
WELL, I'M SORRY, I, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? WELL, THE QUESTION WAS, OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, THE QUESTION IS, COULD, COULD WE VIRTUALLY MEET WITH THESE PEOPLE IN THE NEAR TERM RATHER THAN WAITING TILL THE NEXT MEETING, UM, TO GET MORE INFORMATION THAN, THAN WE HAVE CURRENTLY HAVE? I MEAN, TO ARRANGE A, A SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR Y'ALL TO MEET WITH THE COUNCIL.
I MEAN, I'M SURE WE COULD ARRANGE THAT.
IF THAT SUITED YOUR ALL'S NEED.
UM, WE'D HAVE TO ADVERTISE FOR THAT.
WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
NOW, UM, WHEN IS THE NEXT MEETING OF THE DUFUS ALLEN COUNCIL? WHEN IS THAT? MARCH 21ST.
AND CAN IT BE ADEQUATELY ADVERTISED BEFORE THAT TIME? OR IS THERE A SPECIAL TIME LIMIT IF WE WERE GONNA GO THAT ROUTE? SO YOU ALL WOULD WANT TO GO OUT TO DEVOSKEY ISLAND AND MEET WITH THEM? THE LANDING COMMISSION? I, I JUST, IT'S A, IT'S A SUGGESTION AT THIS POINT.
WE ALL SEEM TO BE STRUGGLING WITH INFORMATION AND WE'RE TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET, IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT ALL STRUGGLING.
SOME, SOME OF US ARE STRUGGLING AND WE'RE NOT ALL STRUGGLING.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S BE ACCURATE.
YOUR, YOUR REQUEST WAS YOUR REQUEST.
WOULD YOU MAKE YOUR REQUEST AND YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION ON IT? IS, OKAY, I MAKE A MOTION.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN EXPEDITE MEETING WITH THE SKEE COUNCIL AND, AND DAR, IS IT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A MOTION.
WOULD YOU MAKE THE MOTION THAT YOU WANT TO MEET WITH THEM? YES.
BEFORE THE NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULE, BEFORE THE REC NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING, BEFORE OUR NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING? I DON'T SO YOU'RE, THAT WOULD BE A MOTION TO TABLE BECAUSE YOU CAN DO THAT ONCE, BUT YOU'VE ALREADY VOTED ON AND IT FAILED.
AND THEN IN THAT TIME PERIOD YOU COULD MEET WITH THEM.
SO SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AGAIN, IS THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE DOCUMENT.
THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE, AND THEY'RE ALL VALID.
EVERYBODY'S ENTITLED TO THEIR CONCERNS OF WHATEVER LANGUAGE IT IS.
I THINK WE'VE HEARD SOME FROM THE PURPOSES OF PROCEDURES, THE IDEA OF MOVING SOMETHING FORWARD IN A RECOMMENDATION AND MAKING IT VERY CLEAR WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE TO MOVE FORWARD ONTO THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS COUNTY COUNCIL WHO WILL ULTIMATELY MAKE THE DECISION.
REMEMBER, THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION.
THEY WILL THEN ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE COMMITTEE.
THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER IN FRONT OF COUNTY COUNCIL.
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SO THERE WILL BE MANY MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY OR MEETINGS ON THIS MATTER MOVING FORWARD.SO THE MOTION THAT YOU'RE MAKING IS TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING WITH THE DUFUS COUNCIL FOR PURPOSES OF WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO PROVIDE US? WELL, ONE THING THAT'S THIS, THIS, THIS INSURANCE CERTIFICATE.
AND THE SECOND THING WAS THE, THE TWO DIVERGENT, UH, DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.
PEOPLE COME HERE AND SPEAK FOREIGN AND AGAINST THINGS ALL THE TIME.
IT'S PART OF OUR DEC, PART OF OUR PART OF OUR JOBS IS THEY'RE LISTENING TO THAT AND MAKING DECISIONS.
THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE SATISFYING OR ANYTHING.
OKAY'S WITHDRAWING THE MOTION.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE? GAIL? YES.
DID YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN? I PROPOSE THAT I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THIS RECOMMENDATION FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL WITH THE, UM, EXCLUSION OF THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENT.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
AND 2, 3, 4, 5 OPPOSED? ARE YOU OPPOSED? OKAY.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS A ZONING
[8. ZONING MAP AMENDMENT/REZONING REQUEST FOR 2.81 ACRES (R600 008 000 0625 0000) LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF OKATIE HIGHWAY (170) AND LOWCOUNTRY DRIVE (462) FROM T2 RURAL (T2R) TO C4 COMMUNITY CENTER MIXED‐USE (C4CCMU)]
MAP, A ZONING REQUEST OF 2.181 ACRES LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION, OKEE HIGHWAY AND LOW COUNTRY DRIVE OF T2, RURAL TO TWO C4 COMMUNITY CENTER OF EXCUSE.UH, THIS PROJECT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY TO IT, BUT I'LL JUST QUICKLY GO OVER THE, THE FACTS OF, OF THIS REZONING, BUT ALSO REMIND YOU OF, UH, SOMETHING THAT CAME FORWARD ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, RICHARD KOHLER.
THIS IS LOCATED ON, UH, OKEE HIGHWAY AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, ONE 70 AND 4 62.
IT'S, UM, VERY CLOSE TO OLDFIELD.
UM, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA ALONG ONE 70.
AND THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS 2.81 ACRES, UH, CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL, UH, OR TTU RURAL.
AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS C4 COMMUNITY CENTER, MIXED USE.
UM, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE KOHLER PROPERTY, IF YOU REMEMBER THIS, CAME FORWARD BACK IN, UH, JUNE OF, UH, 2022.
AND I, I REALIZE THAT NOT ALL OF YOU WERE HERE AT THAT TIME.
UH, AT, AT THAT TIME, WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED, UH, WAS, UH, REZONING OF THE ENTIRE 97 ACRES.
AND AT THAT TIME, THEY WERE PROPOSING TO, UH, A MIXTURE OF C3 FOR, FOR A MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN C5, WHICH IS OUR MOST INTENSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ALONG THE HIGHWAY AT THAT TIME, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER WAS THAT THAT PARTICULAR REZONING IN THE AREA, UM, WAS NOT CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, AND THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD ENTERTAIN A REZONING IN THAT AREA WAS TO CONSIDER WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CODE AS A PLACE TYPE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AND SO THAT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION AT THAT TIME.
WE ACTUALLY DID, UM, WORK WITH, UH, WITH THEIR, UM, DESIGNER A LITTLE BIT IN, IN, IN WHAT, WHAT THAT MEANT.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, UH, AND IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING COUNTY COUNCIL LAST MONTH, UM, RECOMMENDED TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PURCHASE OF THAT PROPERTY, UM, THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS A PERMANENT SITE FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER.
UM, THEY'RE CURRENTLY OUT, YOU KNOW, LONG HAVE BEEN OUTGROWING THE FACILITY THEY HAVE HERE IN BUFORT IN, SO WE HAD TURNED DOWN THE ZONING REQUEST.
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, TURNED DOWN THE REQUEST AS WELL.
AND AT THAT TIME, THE APPLICANT WITHDREW THE APPLICATION.
UM, SO SINCE THAT TIME NOW THE COUNTY HAS STEPPED IN, UM, BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION ON A ONE 70 CORRIDOR BETWEEN NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN.
THEY'RE NOW CONSIDERING THAT PROPERTY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER.
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UM, THIS, SO THERE'S AN UNUSUAL SHAPE TO THE PROPERTY.IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR, AT, AT THE MAP ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT, AND THIS ALL CAME ABOUT IN 2000 OR EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, WHEN ONE 70 WAS WIDENED.
THIS USED TO BE A T INTERSECTION WHERE ONE 70 CAME INTO 4 62 MM-HMM.
UM, AND SO NOW YOU HAVE TWO REMNANT PARCELS ACROSS THE WAY FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE COOLER TRACK.
ONE OF THEM IS CURRENTLY ZONED, UH, C4 COMMUNITY CENTER MIXED USE.
AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO BRING FORWARD THIS REMAINING PARCEL.
UM, SOME OF THE JUSTIFICATION HAS TO DO THE, THE KOHLER FAMILY IS HOLDING ONTO THE TRACT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE UNUSUAL SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY, THE, THE RURAL ZONING RENDERS IT WITH VERY LITTLE USE, UH, FOR THAT PROPERTY.
AND, AND IN ADDITION, ON THIS SIDE, WE'RE LOOKING MORE CUZ THESE TWO, UM, ARE SURROUNDED ON THREE SIDES BY JASPER COUNTY.
THEY HAVE THIS INTERSECTION AS A FUTURE COMMERCIAL NODE.
AND SO THIS, UH, CHANGE OF ZONING WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH, UM, THE TOWN'S OR, OR FOR, UH, JASPER COUNTY'S, UM, PLANS FOR THIS CORRIDOR.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR COMP PLAN IS WE COORDINATE OUR FUTURE LANDEE, UH, WITH NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS.
UM, I REALIZE IT'S KIND OF AN UNUSUAL REZONING, BUT, UM, THAT'S, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD AND, UH, AND IT'S COMING FORWARD AS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT, MATT? YEAH.
I, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
AND IT WOULD HELP IF YOU, I, I KNOW WHERE ONE 70 IS, I KNOW WHERE 4 62 IS, BUT NOBODY ELSE WHO GOES THAT WAY MAY KNOW.
AND UNFORTUNATELY OUR MAP KIND OF DROPS OFF WHEN YOU, YOU HIT THE EDGE OF THE COUNTY.
SO CURBS I CAN SHARE, BUT THAT WAS AT THE LOCATION, UH, THAT A PIECE OF LAND IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF, RIGHT BEHIND IT.
THERE'S A, A ROAD AND UM, AN ACE ACADEMY IS RIGHT.
THEN 4 62 AND THERE'S A TRAFFIC LIGHT RIGHT THERE.
WHICH PIECE ARE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? ONE RED.
UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, UH, THAT, UH, 2.62, IS THAT WHAT, UH, ACRE 2.81.
AND IT COULD BE COMMERCIAL, SO IT COULD BE LIKE A BABY STRIP WALL, FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER THE CURRENT SOUNDING? YEAH.
THE CURRENT SANDAGE, NO, NO, THAT'S CURRENT UNDER THE PROPOSAL.
UM, YEAH, I, I THINK THEY WOULD'VE A, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE ACREAGE AND THE UNUSUAL SHAPE OF THE PARCEL, I, IT WOULD BE A VERY SMALL STRIP MALL.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M CONCERNED, I UNDERSTAND THE GENERAL PICTURE HERE,
WE DO HAVE ACCESS MANAGEMENT STANDARDS FOR THAT CORRIDOR, AND THAT WOULD GOVERN AS FAR AS THE PROXIMITY OF CURB CUTS.
SO YOU WOULDN'T, YOU WOULDN'T BE SEEING CURB CUTS RIGHT NEXT TO THE INTERSECTION WHERE THERE WERE CURB CUTS BE ON ONE 70 WHERE THEY BE ON THE ROAD BEHIND THAT CUZ THEY HAVE ACCESS EQUALLY.
IF THEY WERE TO GET ONE 70, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE QUITE A DISTANCE FROM, UM, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW.
IT DOESN'T GO DOWN VERY INTERSECTION.
IT'S A VERY, IT'S A SLIVER OF LAND, JUST YEAH.
ROAD ON BOTH SIDES, RIGHT? A ROAD ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, THE OTHER SIDE IS AN ABANDONED, IT'S THE ABANDONED RIGHT OF AWAY FOR THE WHAT USED TO BE ONE 70.
THAT, THAT PROPERTY WAS CHOPPED IN HALF WHEN WHITE ONE 70 WAS WIDEN.
YEAH, THERE'S A RIGHT BEHIND IT.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE SMALL ROAD.
CAN YOU GO UP? WE'RE DOWN RATHER DOWN FROM OUR THERE YOU GO.
THERE YOU GO THERE, THERE YOU GO.
AND I THINK, UM, ACE USES THAT FOR ACCESS.
UH, DID DID YOU GET, UM, ANY INPUT OR FEEDBACK FROM ACE ON THIS? NO, WE DID NOT.
UM, DID, DID I, I DIDN'T SEE ANY SIGNAGE OUT THERE.
OH, THE SIGNS, THERE WAS NO SIGNAGE OUT THERE.
IT'S NOT ON ONE, IT'S NOT ON ONE 70.
IT HAD SHATTERED TO CURL A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY SAID INVISIBLE.
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THE WHITE WITH IS IT ON ONE? WAS IT ON ONE 70? YEP, IT WAS ON THE NO, THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T SEE IT.YOU, YOU'RE DRIVING 60 MILES AN HOUR.
UM, YOU'RE SAYING HERE, YOU DON'T THINK IT TRIGGERS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS? NO.
DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY.
BUT HAVE YOU SEEN THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE AT EIGHT, EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING ALREADY? IT'S BAD.
IT'S BACKED UP TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER LIGHT ON, UH, ARGENT.
I MEAN IT, ANYTHING YOU PUT THERE IS GONNA ADD TO THAT MESS.
I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THERE'S, WE HAVE A THRESHOLD.
IT'S A 50 PEAK HOUR TRIPS OR WHAT TRIGGERS? UH, YEAH, JUST SAYING MAY IF YOU WELL, I AGREE WITH THAT DAYCARE CENTER LIKE YOU USUALLY 50.
I I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT DEREK GLEN.
UH, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONGESTION INCREASINGLY ON THAT ROAD AND THAT'S WHY THE TRAFFIC THAT WAS PUT IN TO ATE SOME OF THAT MM-HMM.
UM, AND I ALSO, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SHOWS IT AS A COMMERCIAL NODE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CURRENT OR HISTORIC, BUT THE COMMERCIAL NOTE ISN'T CLEARLY JUST THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO, UH, THE CATHOLIC SCHOOL MM-HMM.
THE, THE, UH, LAND I'M REFERRING TO, JASPER COUNTY HAS KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A LITTLE BUBBLE ON IT.
DO YOU KNOW IF THAT'S A CURRENT PLAN? I MEAN, IF THEY HAVE IT, YES.
IF IT'S T2 R SO I MEAN, IF IT WAS JUST RECENTLY ANNOTATED THAT WAY, DO YOU KNOW, UM, IS IT, IS IT, IS THAT THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IS THE JASPER COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? WE, WE WOULD USE THAT AS A GUIDE BECAUSE OF THE SIDE OF THE STREET THAT IT IS ON.
SO JASPER COUNTY'S ON THE OTHER SIDE.
ALL THE REST OF THAT IS JA IS JASPER.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT PLANS THEY WOULD HAVE FOR THAT? SINCE WE WANTED TO COOPERATE WITH THEM AND WORK WITH THEM? DID THEY HAVE PLANS FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT DOWN THAT, DO YOU KNOW? THEY BASICALLY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE ONE 70 CORRIDOR WITH NODES, COMMERCIAL NODES AT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS AND THAT'S WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHAT THE JASPER COUNTY PLAN IS IN THE COUNTY'S PLAN.
AND WHAT HAS OCCURRED HERE IS THAT BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS NOW, YOU KNOW, IS LOOKING TO PURCHASE THE REMAINDER OF THE COOLER TRACT, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LAND THERE TO JUSTIFY A PLACE TYPE.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE WORKING WITH THEM ON A, IS IT A HAMLET PLACE TYPE AT THIS, THIS LOCATION? YES.
UM, NO, THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS WHEN WE WERE RECOMMENDING DENIAL BACK IN, IT WAS AN ALTERNATIVE.
IS THAT, IS, IS THE GREEN THAT YOU'RE SHOWING THAT'S ON THE, UH, SOUTH SIDE OF THAT ROAD? THERE IS THAT, IF THAT'S SOUTH, THAT'S THE PIECE THAT THE COUNTY'S LOOKING AT ACQUIRING? YES.
AND THAT'S GONNA ADD A GOOD BIT MORE TRAFFIC AS WELL.
I MEAN WHATEVER IT WOULD BE GENERATED BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER.
SO THERE'LL BE A LOT OF POLICE COMING AND GOING AND, AND WHAT ELSE HAPPENS? TRAINING.
ROB, IS THERE A SPECIFIC PROPOSAL, UH, FROM A PETITIONER REGARDING THE USE OF THIS PROPERTY? NO, NOT AT THIS POINT.
I OTHER QUESTIONS, YOUR HONOR.
MINE, THERE'S MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION.
I DON'T THINK, SEE HOW STAFF COULD, COULD WRITE.
UM, IT'S UNLIKELY YOU HAVE A T I.
UM, 28 APARTMENTS WITH 12 TRIPS EACH APARTMENT PER DAY TRIP PEAKS.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOING RATE FOR THAT.
THAT THAT EXCEEDS 50 RIGHT THERE.
UH, IF THAT'S SHOPPING, IF IT'S A GROCERY STORE, I'M JUST USING AN EXAMPLE MM-HMM.
SO I THINK THAT THE, YOU SHOULD THINK CAR I'M NOT CHASTISING YOU OR ANYTHING BEFORE YOU MAKE A COMMENT LIKE THAT THAT PUT IT IN FRONT OF US.
THAT DIDN'T COME FROM SOMEONE WHO,
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WHO HAS APPLIED WITH SOME PIECE OF LANGUAGE.THERE ARE TWO, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WHEN THINGS COME FORWARD FOR A ZONING CHANGE.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE A REQUIREMENT WHEN THEY COME FORWARD WITH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THIS PROPERTY, AND A LOT OF THIS IS SPECULATIVE, THIS IS A VERY UNUSUAL SHAPE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE TYPES OF TYPE OF USE, THERE'S A LONG TAIL TO THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S PROBABLY, IF ANYTHING, IT'LL BE USED, YOU KNOW, USED UP BY ACCESS OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY HOW IT'LL BE USED.
AND SO IF IT PLAN CAME IN TO THE COUNTY, LET'S SAY IT WAS A RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, THEN THEY WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WHEN THAT CAME FORWARD.
JUST, JUST, UM, CORRECT ME IF THIS IS NOT WRONG, THIS IS WRONG, BUT A T I A RECOMMENDATION OR NOT HAVING A T I A COMES FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING PEOPLE.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLANNING DEPARTMENT MAKE WITHOUT THEIR INPUT.
WE CONSULT THEM WHEN, WHEN WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS, MAY OR MAY NOT TRIGGER.
SO THEY, SO THEY MADE THIS OR THEY AGREED WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION OR WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM? UH, NO, WE DID NOT CONSULT 'EM ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY.
THE FACT THAT IT'S GOT SOME THE, THE PROPERTY DOES.
THE ACTUAL DEVELOPABLE ACREAGE.
AND THEN IF IT DID DO THAT DURING DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO ONE WHEN WE HAD A REAL USER VERSUS SPECULATIVE AT THIS TIME.
OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I PERSONALLY, I DUNNO,
WHY, WHAT'S IN SIGNIFICANCE FOR US TO SPEND OUR TIME ON IT BECAUSE IT'S A ZONING AMENDMENT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD AND MAY BINDING COMMISSION HMM.
WELL, I MEAN, IT IS MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, SIR? OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR ANY OTHER ZONING CHANGES ALONG MICHAEL CARTER? NOT AT THIS POINT.
IS IT FAIR TO SAY THOUGH? THERE HAVE BEEN.
I MEAN, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS OH YES.
I MEAN, INCLUDING, CAUSE YOU'RE NEW SIX MONTHS AGO, THE COOLER TRACK.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S VERY, VERY DYNAMIC AREA, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I, I WISH KEVIN HENLEY WERE HERE BECAUSE THAT'S SORT OF WHAT HE TRIES TO BRING UP ALL THE TIME.
ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT, WELL, THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR, SO MANY THINGS ARE IN THAT AREA, THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR FROM, UH, PROBLEMATIC YES.
FROM SNAKE ROAD ALL THE WAY ON DOWN, RIGHT, STEPHEN FROM SNAKE ROAD.
TO ONE 70 DOWN TO 2 78 WHERE EDLA YEAH.
AND 95% OF ALL PROPERTIES HAVE FOR SALE SIZES.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE WAS IDENTIFIED A ZONE THAT WE WANTED TO PROTECT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANT.
AND KEEP SOME GREENING GOING ON.
WE'VE GOT DEVELOPMENT GOING CRAZY DOWN THERE.
AND THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, THEY'RE ALSO EXTENSIVE PLANS FOR WIDENING THAT ROAD.
UM, WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD IMPACT THEM, BUT WIDENING, UH, ONE 70, UH, IT'S SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S, IT'S IN THE 24, UM, LOW COUNTRY TRANSPORTATION GUIDELINES.
THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR UP TO 4 62 IS A MAJOR ARTERY FOR EVACUATION AND A MAJOR ARTERY INGRESS, UM, FROM, FOR VACATIONERS COMING DOWN WHO DON'T WANT TO TAKE EXIT EIGHT.
THEY TAKE EXIT AT RIDGELAND AND THEN COME BACK ORIGINALLY TAKE, TAKE EXIT.
THEY TAKE 28, COME DOWN 4 62 AND RIGHT DOWN THAT ROAD AND THEN DELVER TO HILTON HEAD.
SO IT IT'S ANY GIVEN TIME, PARTICULARLY ON THE WEEKENDS.
I MEAN, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, USUALLY THEY'RE COMING AND GOING MM-HMM.
SO IT'S A VERY COMMON COMPLEX.
I MEAN, I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE ON, ON KAWAI WHO GO TO HILTON HEAD FOR MEETINGS AND SOMETIMES IT'S TAKING 'EM TWO HOURS TO GET THERE.
HAVE, HAVE Y'ALL TALKED WITH JASPER COUNTY ABOUT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
YEAH, BECAUSE I, I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M THE ONE THAT ALWAYS BEEN FOR COMMUNICATING WITH BLUFFTON
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AND D HAD AND JASPER COUNTY.WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP THAT MAY, UH, AFFECT THEM, HAS THAT HAPPENED AT THIS POINT? NO, IT HASN'T.
NOT THAT IT'S A MAJOR PIECE OF RIGHT.
A MAJOR PIECE OF LAND OR, OR ANYTHING.
UM, SOME QUICK CONTEXT I THINK FOR EVERYBODY.
SOMETIMES IT'S EASY TO LOOK AT THINGS IN THE BACK.
YOU ALL RECALL THAT THIS DID COME FORWARD FOR YOU FOR A REZONING PRIOR THAT COULD HAVE FRUITED A LOT OF ROOFTOPS.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE TRACK RIGHT BEHIND OLDFIELD TONIGHT IS A 2.1 ACRE PIECE THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE VERY SMALL STOP.
AND THIS, SO THIS IS HOW THE COUNTY HAS SEEN THAT, THOSE ROOFTOPS AND IF THE COUNTY WASN'T PURCHASED AS THEY WOULD BE COMING BACK TO YOU FOR A REZONING ON THAT PLACE TYPE OVERLAY, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN ABOUT 500 UNITS AND STAFF WOULD'VE SUPPORTED IT.
CAUSE IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.
DISCUSS A2 EIGHT ONE PIECE TO REZONE THE COMMERCIAL TO MATCH THE ADJACENT PARCEL.
UM, FURTHER QUESTIONS, MR. MERCHANT AND GENTLEMEN, IN THE BACK, DID YOU, ARE YOU INVOLVED WITH THIS ISSUE? OH, OH NO.
I NEED A MOTION IF BEFORE YOU DO IT ONE THING TWO MONTHS AGO.
DID WE NOT HAVE A REPORT BY THE, UH, COUNTY D O T, THE YOUNGMAN THAT CAME UP AND WERE THEY NOT TALKING ABOUT FOUR LANDING EVENTUALLY IN THE LONG RANGE? IS THAT IN THE D OT PLAN? 4 62.
AND WAS THAT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THIS? TRYING TO REMEMBER, REMEMBER WHEN HE, ERIC, WHEN ERIC CAME, SPEAK ABOUT THE OH, DECEMBER MEETING.
I DON'T RECALL HIM TALKING ABOUT FOUR SIXTY TWO.
I DON'T, BUT I BELIEVE THE, THE, UM, LOW COUNTRY, THE ELK COG TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE DID IDENTIFY 4 62 FOR WIDENING ALL THE WAY FROM THE INTERSECTION AT ONE 70 UP TO SNAKE ROAD ON 4 62.
THERE WAS ALSO AN IDENTIFICATION OF WIDENING ONE 70 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, WELL, I GUESS 2 78, WE NEED MAKE A PARK.
SO IT'S, ALL OF THOSE THINGS COULD STILL OCCUR THEN WE NEED IT RIGHT OF WAY THOSE WOULD BE ADDRESSED UPON THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARCEL.
CAUSE THAT NONE OF THAT WOULD CHANGE.
WE CAN'T NOT HAVE, HOW TO HAVE AN EMOTION.
A MOTION HAS NOT BEEN A GOOD DAY.
WHAT'S THE MATTER OF US? YEAH.
WOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? YOU'RE LOOKING AT, OH LORD, GO AHEAD, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REZONING OF, UH, THE 2.81 ACRES FROM T2 RURAL TO C4 COMMUNITY CENTER NEXT USE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? WELL, I'LL SECOND IT JUST TO GET THE VOTE.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL, RAISE YOUR HAND.
ONE, ALL THOSE WHO DON'T APPROVE, RAISE YOUR HAND.
I, I AGREE WITH THE CONCLUSION.
I DIDN'T GET WHICH WAY YOU VOTED.
I'M, I'M REALLY NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION.
SAY 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, VOTE TO AGAINST APPROVAL MOTION.
YOU STILL DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.
RIGHT? SO I THINK FAILED MOTION MEANS IT COMMITTED ALL THE, NO, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE.
SO WE, EVERY JURISDICTION DOES THIS DIFFERENT.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE SINCE THERE VERSE SIX? I DIDN'T WANT THIS MOTION.
ANY COMMENTS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR DISAPPROVING THIS, UH, REQUEST
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TO RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL CORRECT.WE'LL GET YOU ON HIGHWAY FOUR 70 AND LOW COUNTRY DRIVE 4 62 FROM TITO RURAL TO C4 COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE'RE DISAPPROVING, RIGHT? FOR DISAPPROVE.
THAT WAS THE MOTION FOR DISAPPROVAL.
DID NOT IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
DID YOU FAVOR THE MOTION? DID YOU, DID YOU VOTE GAIL? UH, NO.
ASKED FOR THOSE THAT APPROVED.
SO I'M, I SAID NO, I'M ASK, I'M JUST ASKING.
SO WE HAVE ONE NOT APPROVING THE MOTION.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S HAD THEIR CHANCE TO VOTE.
NOW, I GUESS WE HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM THAT YOU, BEFORE WE GET TO THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, YOU WANT TO BE GO WITH THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? YES.
WE WANTED TO BRING, EVENTUALLY BRING THE REMAINDER OF THE CONFERENCE A PLAN.
BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD AT THIS MEETING, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AS A DEPARTMENT, AND IT'S BECOME A THEME IN SOME OF OUR PLANS, LIKE THE LADIES ISLAND PLAN IN PARTICULAR, HAS BEEN THIS ISSUE OF TRANSPARENCY AND HOW CAN WE BETTER, UM, RELAY INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE YOU ARE TYPICALLY SEEING ZONING AMENDMENTS OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY SEEING THE PROJECTS THAT COME FORWARD.
AND SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE HOPING WE HAVEN'T, UM, A NEW SOFTWARE THAT WE ARE HOPING THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO CONVEY THIS INFORMATION.
AND IT DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT THE WAY WE EXPECTED.
AND SO, UM, WE, LATELY OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR GIS DEPARTMENTS AND, UH, DAN MORGAN, THIS IN ATTENDANCE, I PUT, I GIVE THEM A LOT OF CREDIT.
UM, BUT TO SET UP A, AN ONLINE PORTAL SO THAT PEOPLE COULD LOOK UP, UM, ACTIVE PROJECTS.
EITHER PROJECTS UNDER REVIEW OR PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER.
UM, HERE, THIS IS CURRENTLY LINKED TO THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE.
AND, UM, THE WAY THIS WORKS, YOU COULD EITHER, UM, ON THE FAR LEFT OF THE PAGE, UM, YOU COULD EITHER SELECT THE TYPE OF PROJECT.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE OUR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
UM, AND YOU COULD SELECT THE PROJECT TYPE OVER THERE.
OR IN THE SECOND COLUMN OVER, WE HAVE ALL THE ACTIVE PROJECTS, UH, LISTED INDIVIDUALLY.
IF YOU WANT TO CLICK ON ONE
SO, VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS, A MAP DRIVEN APPLICATION.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY PART OF GOVERNMENT TRANSPARENCY AND TRYING TO PROVIDE PEOPLE A USER-FRIENDLY OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRING AROUND THEM.
WHETHER IT'S STUDENT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS OR IT'S ALREADY BEEN IMPROVED.
AND MAYBE YOU'RE DRIVING BY AND YOU SEE SOMETHING START, YOU'LL SAY, I WONDER WHAT'S GONNA BE BUILT THERE.
AS LONG AS IT'S IN OUR, YOU CAN GO HERE, YOU CAN KNOW IT BY MAP, YOU CAN SEARCH IT BY MAP, OR YOU CAN SEARCH IT BY NAMES.
SO FOR INSTANCE, WE JUST PICKED ONE HERE.
IF YOU HAVE THERE, THEN YOU COME OVER HERE AND LOOK AT THE INFORMATION.
AND THEN YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE RENDERINGS IN THE PICTURES OF WHAT IS BEING APPROVED OR CONSIDERED.
SO YOU WOULD KNOW PRIOR TO IT GOING CONSTRUCTION, WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY HAS BEEN APPROVED AND WHAT WILL BE THERE AND WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE WITHOUT HAVING TO SIT THROUGH GRUELING DEVELOPMENT FOR REVIEW MEETINGS LIKE WE HAVE TO DO ALL THE TIME.
SO THIS COULD BE A PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF THE S R T OR THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
NECESS DESIGN, REVIEW BOARD, UM, DASHBOARD TO DISPLAY THESE PROJECTS, WHETHER THEY'RE UNDER REVIEW CURRENTLY OR THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED.
ONCE THEY'RE BUILT, OF COURSE WE WOULD JUST PULL THEM.
CAUSE YOU CAN SEE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT THESE PROJECTS ARE CATEGORIZING.
THE TWO HERE, ONE WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
THIS ONE HERE IS STAFF REVIEW TEAM.
WE BUILT THE APPLICATION, BE USER FRIENDLY.
AGAIN, IT'S A MAP DRIVEN APPLICATION.
USUALLY YOU WOULD GO TO THE MAP AND JUST GO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO FIND IT.
BUT IF YOU WANTED TO DO A GROUP OF SEARCH THAT'S, YOU COULD DO 'EM LIKE THAT.
AND I COULD SCROLL THROUGH 'EM ON THE RIGHT SIDE, ONE BY ONE IF YOU WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING.
OR WE CAN JUST GO STRAIGHT TO ONE AND CLICK ON ONE.
AND THAT WOULD PULL UP IMMEDIATELY RIGHT HERE.
AND WE CAN LOOK AT EVERYTHING THERE.
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RUN THROUGH ON THIS SIDE.IT'LL GO STRAIGHT TO, AND THEN THAT WILL GENERATE THE INFORMATION AND THE RENDER RINGS OVER HERE.
SO THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO SEARCH IT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A MAP DRIVEN APPLICATION TO GEOLOCATE A SPECIFIC AREA.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IS GOING THERE.
OR YOU COULD JUST COME HERE AND PUT ON YOUR FAVORITE LINKS AND COME TAKE A LOOK EVERY FEW MONTHS, SEE WHAT'S BEEN ADDED OR WHAT NEW IS GOING ON, OR WHAT'S IN A BRIDGE OR WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN YOUR REVIEW.
CAN WE ACCESS THIS FROM OUR COMPUTER AT HOME? YES.
WE WE'RE GETTING FRONT PAGE BILLING RIGHT NOW.
YOU ARE OUR FIRST AUDIENCE COUNTY SC COM.
UM, SO CONSIDERING THE TEXT AMENDMENT PROPOSAL FROM THE COUNTY, UM, VIS-A-VIS ST.
HELEN ISLAND, UH, I THINK ONE PART OF THAT IS THAT, UH, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, UM, WOULD BE PERMITTED AND THEY ARE NOT NOW.
AND THAT MEANS THAT THIS KIND OF DATA WOULD BE EXCLUDED, CORRECT.
PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER.
WELL, DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE ON THE COUNTY'S WEBPAGE.
YOU CAN LOOK THEM UP AND LOOK UP THE LANGUAGE, THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE IN THIS, UH, FORM, NO.
ANY PROJECT COMING FORWARD IF IT, IF IT WAS COVERED BY A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I MEAN THE, THE GRAVES, UH, PROPERTY, UH, PEPPER HALL MM-HMM.
BUT THOSE, UH, PROJECTS ARE UP ON THE WEBSITE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WENT AND, AND, UM, WHERE FOR EXAMPLE IS PINE ISLAND, UM, LLC, RIGHT.
OR PINE ISLAND GOLF, WHATEVER.
WELL, THE, THE PRO WHEN THESE PROJECT IS THAT IN THE PROCESS, THESE, WHERE THESE PROJECTS ARE TRIGGERED, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, ESPECIALLY WITH THE S R T, IS UNTIL THEY RECEIVE CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL, WE HAVE A TWO-STAGE PROCESS CONCEPT AND FINAL, UNTIL THEY RECEIVE CONCEPTUAL, WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT ANYTHING ON THE SITE BECAUSE WE WOULD BE PUTTING ON A PLAN THAT MAYBE STAFF WOULD BE RECOMMENDING CHANGES TO.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET A PLAN OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, IS, IS NOT WHAT NO, I THINK'S GREAT.
I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR THIS DECISION TRANSPARENCY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO POINT OUT THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT TRANSPARENT.
IT'S SORT OF 75 IN THE PROCESS.
DEPENDING WHERE THE, WHERE THE PROJECT IS IN THE PROCESS.
SO I, I'M, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ME TO KNOW, OTHER THAN LOOKING AT THE VIDEOS, THINGS THAT WE HAVE DECIDED HERE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, HOW THEY WERE CONCLUDED EITHER AS A FLOW THROUGH, UM, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND LAND USE COMMITTEE OR COUNTY COUNCIL.
UM, IS THERE, COULD THERE BE A SUBSECTION IN THERE OF ISSUES THAT CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HOW THEY WERE RESOLVED? NO, THIS PLATFORM IS SPECIFICALLY DRIVEN TO SHOWCASE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND PROJECTS THAT RESULT IN A BUILT ENVIRONMENT THAT WERE WIRE ARCHITECTURE.
SO IT WOULDN'T SHOW TEXT AMENDMENTS OR NO.
OR ZONING CHANGES MECHANISMS FOR THAT.
THIS IS SIMPLY TO SHOWCASE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW.
WHAT ROB SAID, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THESE PICTURES UP HERE.
SO WE HAVE WHAT WE CONSIDER SOME STAGE OF, SO THEY'VE MET SOMETHING, THEY'VE GOT APPROVAL AT A CONCEPTUAL LEVEL, AND THEY'LL GET UP HERE AND WE'LL SHOW CONCEPT PLAN
AND THEN WHEN THEY GET FINAL APPROVAL, IT WOULD SHOW UP HERE, LIKE, YOU SEE RIGHT HERE IS THE STAGE.
AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHAT GOES ACROSS HERE.
IF THEY JUST GOT APPROVAL, THEY WOULD BE HERE, THEN THEY WOULD ENTER STACK DESIGN REVIEW.
THEY WOULD GO BACK FOR FINAL S R T AND THEN OFFICIALLY GET APPROVED.
THAT THEN WOULD ALLOW THEM TO GET STAMPED DRAWINGS TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION.
SO THIS IS JUST A PROCESS TO SHOW PEOPLE AND TO SHOWCASE THOSE PROJECTS WHERE THEY MIGHT STAND.
AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS ONES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN REVIEW THAT REQUIRE STAFF, S R T SUBMITTALS, WHICH ARE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE ARCHITECTURAL COMPONENTS TO BUILDINGS THAT REQUIRE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
THAT IS WHAT THIS WEBSITE IS FOR.
THIS IS SOME OF THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS.
THAT'S WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO I HOPE Y'ALL RECOGNIZE THAT STAFF DID THIS INTERNALLY AND THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS.
UM, SO ON THE, UH, PANEL FRIZZ
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TO THE RIGHT WHERE THE BLUE IS WHAT MARK YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S THE END OF THE TIMELINE OF THIS.THAT IS IT, IT DOES NOT, UH, TAKE IN TO FOLLOW UP ON S POINT, IT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IF IT WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S, UM, RECOMMENDATION OR WHATEVER.
IT, IT, IT, THAT'S THE END OF THE TIMELINE.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT PROCESSES.
SO, UM, THE REASON WE FOCUSED ON THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, EITHER GOING BEFORE THE STAFF REVIEW TEAM OR THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW THE SAME PATH.
IT DOESN'T GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
THESE THINGS ARE DONE AT THE STAFF LEVEL WITH SOME APPOINTED BOARDS LIKE THE DRB.
WHEN, WHEN YOU GUYS DECIDE IT, IT'S STAFF, UM, COMMUNICATED.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WE FOCUS ON THIS IS BECAUSE GETTING THE WORD OUT ON THESE PROJECTS IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY'RE AT THE STAFF LEVEL.
AND THIS GIVES THE, UH, THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY.
AND THERE ARE, WHEN, WHEN A PROJECT GOES TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, THAT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.
AND SO PART OF THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO GET SOME INTEREST OR WE RARELY HAVE PUBLIC AT THOSE MEETINGS.
AND THIS MIGHT INCREASE, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO SEE WHAT PROJECTS ARE COMING UP, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT BE MORE LIKELY TO COME OUT TO THOSE MEETINGS.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS, UH, THINGS THAT GO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER PRIMARILY, UM, ZONING AND, UH, MAP AND TEXT AMENDMENTS, THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TRACK THOSE THROUGH THE AGENDAS FOR, UM, THE, THE, UM, COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY SERVICES AND LAND USE.
I, I, IN MY MIND, I STILL WANNA SAY PUBLIC, UM, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND LAND USE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, UH, COUNCIL AGENDAS.
UM, BUT WAIT, ONE, ONE OTHER QUESTION, ROB.
I'M AFRAID IT, UM, HAVING A SEEN YOUR MOMENT, IT'LL COME BACK TO ME.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, AS, AS THE PROCESS NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, HOW LONG DOES IT NORMALLY TAKE TO GET THE UPDATES IN? IS THAT LIKE A, A WEEK DELAY AFTER YOU FIND OUT SOMETHING OR IT'S IT THE NEXT DAY? WRITE IT DOWN.
SO THIS IS ALL THE MAP IS LIVE AND THEY CAN PUT AN AMENDMENT TOMORROW.
FIRST QUESTION, ALMOST REAL TIME.
WHY DON'T YOU COME UP, WHY DON'T YOU COME UP HERE AND TAKE A LITTLE KUDOS FOR THE YES, THANK YOU.
SO ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS THAT WE ADD WITH DAN AND HIS TEAM, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SKILL, BUT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN BUILD SOMETHING THAT AFTER WE'RE DONE WORKING TOGETHER AND BUILDING IT, THAT WE AS A DEPARTMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO MANAGE THE SYSTEM.
AND THE ANSWER IS VERY STRONG.
AND SO WE, NOW THAT THEY HAVE BUILT IT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY AT A STAFF LEVEL WITHOUT HIRING AN OUTSIDE COMPANY OR A CONSULTANT TO COMPLETELY MANAGE THIS SYSTEM AND THEN GO TO DAN AND HIS TEAM WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE ADDING SOMETHING OR AMENDING SOMETHING.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH OF HIS STAFF TIME UP AT THIS POINT MOVING FORWARD.
THAT'S, WE BUILD IT SO THAT THEY CAN DRIVE IT.
AND IF THEY HAVE A VERSION 2.0 THAT THEY WANT LATER, THEY CAN COME TO US AND SAY, DO THIS, THE ONE STAYS LIVE.
AND THEN WE CAN JUST TRANSFER THAT OVER IF THEY WANT SOME LODGES ON.
AND I WANTED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO TWO PEOPLE.
IAN WAS HERE EARLIER, BUT THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS SITTING WITH DAN, UM, HE DID A LOT OF THE LEGWORK AND THEN, AND OUR STAFF.
AND I'LL SAY THAT THIS IS ART, KUDOS TO YOUR WORK.
UM, AND, AND SHE'LL PROBABLY GIVE ME A ROUGH TIME TOMORROW, BUT NANCY MOSS FROM OUR STAFF, SHE IS VERY THOROUGH IN WHAT SHE DOES.
AND SHE'S BEEN THE PERSON WHO HAS, UM, ENTERED THE INFORMATION.
AND I THINK THAT'S IN KIND OF POINTS TO BOTH HOW WELL OUR GIS DEPARTMENT SET IT UP.
UM, BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T CONSIDER HERSELF A COMPUTER EXPERT.
UH, BUT SHE WAS ABLE TO, TO ENTER THE DATA AND, AND, AND MAKE IT WORK.
SO I THINK WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD SYSTEM THAT, THAT YEAH.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN UPDATE AND YOU'LL, UH, ROLL IT OUT, UH, PUBLICLY HAVE THE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR THE COUNTY MAKE.
ACTUALLY, UH, WE'VE ALREADY NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS, THIS IS THE BEGINNING.
WE'RE GONNA GO TO, UH, UM, CAN COMMUNITY SERVICES AND LAND
IT WAS NATURAL RESOURCES UP IN, IT WAS LAST DECEMBER.
UM, CHANGE THE NAME POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
UM, ROB DESIGN REVIEW, UM, THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT I LACK.
I KNOW THAT DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, BUT I WAS GOING THROUGH, THROUGH SOME MATERIAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND S RT AND IT SAID
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SOME OF THE SRT MEETINGS ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.S R T IS ACTUALLY, IT'S, IT STANDS FOR STAFF REVIEW TEAM, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND SO REALLY WHAT IT IS MEANT TO BE IS GETTING THE VARIOUS STAFF PEOPLE, SO IT'S PLANNING STAFF, BUILDING CODES, ENGINEERING, UM, STORM WATER TO GET THEIR COMMENTS TO THE APPLICANT AND HAVE SOME BACK, BACK AND FORTH.
A LOT OF IT'S EXPLORATORY IN THE VERY BEGINNING.
ENGINEERS COME IN WITH THEIR MAPS AND SAY, WANNA DO THIS? AND RATHER THEM GO DOWN THE ROAD OF DOING A LOT OF PLANNING WITHOUT INPUT.
THAT'S WHAT TO BE USED TO BE DRESSED.
AND THE TYPE OF MEETINGS AND THE CONVERSATIONS.
CAUSE WE'RE GETTING REALLY DEEP INTO ELAINE'S LAW ON WHAT WE CAN AND CAN DO.
I JUST WOULD NOT WANT PEOPLE, UM, HAVE THE EXPECTATION AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR INTERESTED ACTIVISTS TO HAVE THE EXPECTATION THAT SRT MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE, I MEAN, I I, I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE NOT, BUT I, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CLARIFY MM-HMM.
BECAUSE I'VE COME TO SOME OF THOSE AND WE HAVE, WE'VE ALLOWED PEOPLE, BUT YOU CAN'T COMMENT.
AND, AND THE REASON, AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS DRACONIAN, BUT THE REASON IS THAT AT THAT POINT PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE CODES, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL METRICS.
AND SO WHETHER SOMEBODY'S REQUIRED TO HAVE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IT'S EITHER IN THE CODE OR IT ISN'T, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, ON A MATTER OF OPINION AT THAT POINT.
THE DISCUSSIONS YOU ALL VOTED ON THE TEXT, YOU, YOU'VE DONE, COUNCIL'S ADOPTED.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? UH, NO, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
AND WE, WE, WE DO PLAN TO COME BACK WITH THE REST OF THE COMP PLAN.
AND REAL QUICK, JUST ANSWER YOUR QUESTION HERE AS THE COUNTY MEETING PAGE AND THEN YOU SCROLL RIGHT NOW.
DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, DASHBOARD.
WELL, I GUESS WE'RE AT THE POINT OF THE
[10. CHAIRMAN’S REPORT]
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT.I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS IN RECOGNITION.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA WELCOME DENNIS ROSS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, TAKING THE PLACE, I BELIEVE OF ARMON WALL.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND GO FORWARD WITH THE TRAINING WITH YOU,
UM, AND I WANT TO, I WANT TO THANK, UH, CAROLINE FURMAN, WHO IS, UH, NO LONGER ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, SHE RESIGNED FOR PURPOSES OF ANOTHER POSITION AND I SPOKE WITH HER BEFORE THIS MEETING AND SHE, UM, IDENTIFIED THAT, UM, HER, UH, CANDIDACY FOR, UH, DIRECTOR OF VETERAN OF AFFAIRS FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE LEGISLA LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY AND, UH, JASPER COUNTY.
UM, THERE'S STILL SOME, UH, OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED IN TERMS OF SALARY AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
BUT, UM, CONGRATULATIONS TO HER FOR A VERY RESPONSIBLE POSITION FOR WHICH SHE IS MORE THAN WELL QUALIFIED.
UH, WE WILL MISS HER SERVICE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT WE APPLAUD HER SERVICE TO THE VETERANS OF BEAUFORD COUNTY, IN WHICH THERE ARE, UH, ARE NUM NUMEROUS AND GROWING.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CAROLYN, IF YOU'RE TUNING INTO THIS.
AND I WANNA THANK YOU SO FAR FOR THE, THE PLANNING, UM, DEPARTMENT FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATES YOU'RE GIVING US.
I KNOW IT, IT SAID, HEY, A LITTLE EXTRA WORK, BUT AS I'VE SAID IN THE PAST, IT'S A VERY VALUABLE TOOL THAT WE WANT TO KEEP IN FRONT OF COUNTY COUNCIL TO CONSTANTLY REMIND THEM THAT THEY MADE A COMMITMENT TO THIS AND ACCEPTING IT, UH, AND TO APPRAISE THEM OF OUR PROGRESS IN DOING THAT.
MAYBE ONE DAY WE CAN GET THAT ALL CODIFIED AND PUT
UH, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR NEXT REPORT.
UM, WITH THAT, I HAVE, UM, NOTHING FURTHER AT THIS TIME.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS? THERE ARE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, I MEETING ADJOURNED.