[XI.2. Certificate of Appropriateness. A request by Pearce Scott Architects, on behalf of the owners, John and Lisa Sulka, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness – HD application to allow the addition of a 64 SF roof over an existing porch on the existing residential structure located at 37 Stock Farm Road in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood Conservation-HD. (COFA-01-23-017579) (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

GREAT SO I'M LIKE SO WE HAVE THE 37 DISTRICT FOREIGN CONTROL THANK YOU OKAY SO THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT IS OUR SECOND ITEM WHICH IS 37 STOCK FARM ROAD AND THE APPLICANT I'M GOING TO READ IT BECAUSE THAT WAY IT GAINS A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HER TO MAKE THE PHONE CALL BUT THE APPLICANT PIERCE COUNTY ARCHITECTS WOULD TO BE OWNERS ON THESE SOCCER REQUESTS THAT THE STAFF PRESERVATION COMMISSION APPROVED THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION IT IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF 64 SQUARE FOOT ROOF OVER AN EXISTING PORCH ON AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE WHICH IS LOCATED AT 37 STOCK FARM ROAD IN THE OLD TOWN BLOCK THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION HD BRIEFLY WELL CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN HAS THE REQUEST ON IT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I DIDN'T WHEN I MADE THIS WHOLE SCREEN MESS UP FOR GOOD I CAN SAY THANK THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THAT PROPERTY SO YOU CAN SEE MAY RIVER ROAD ALONG THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN AND THERE'S A STOCK FARM ROAD IT IS HERE ON YOUR LEFT AS YOU'RE DRIVING IN BEFORE YOU GET TO AREA WHERE IT CHANGES TO A GRAVEL PATH IT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT THE NEIGHBOR. THE RIVERFRONT EDGE ZONING DISTRICT.

SO THE FRONT OF THIS LOT IS DOC FARM ROAD. THE REAR OF THE LOT IS THE COVE BEHIND THE PROPERTY. THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE AREA IN WHICH WE ARE DISCUSSING. SO THIS IS THE AREA WHERE THE ROOF WILL BE PROPOSED OVER AT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. THIS IS THE FULL BACK OF THE HOUSE SO THE PROPOSED ADDITION WILL BE HERE ON THE STRUCTURE THE WAY THAT OUR ORDINANCES WRITTEN AND IT SAYS FOR BETTER OR WORSE SOMETIMES IT'S SOMETHING MINOR LIKE THIS. OTHER TIMES ADDITION OF A GREATER AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THAT IF SQUARE FOOTAGE IS BEING ADDED UNDER A

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ROOF IT HAS TO BE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. IT CANNOT BE REVIEWED AS A SITE FEATURE THE FOR THIS IS THAT YOU DON'T GET HOUSE PAGES ADDED ON OVER TIME AND SO THIS WAY IT CAPTURES ALL OF THOSE THINGS SOMETIMES AS A SMALL PROJECT THAT HAS 64 SQUARE FEET SOMETIMES IT IS THE ADDITION OF A CARPORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO IT.

SOMETIMES IT'S A PORCH THAT WAS OPEN WHICH WOULD CHANGE THE MASSING OF THAT BUILDING.

SO FOR EXAMPLE IF THE FRONT OF I CAN'T COME UP WITH OF OR THE SIDE PORCH ON THAT PATIO DECIDED TO PUT A FULL ROOF OVER THE FRONT OF THAT IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE AN EFFECT ON WHAT THE ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURE OF THE APPEARANCE ABOUT STRUCTURE AND SO THIS IS A WAY CAPTURE ALL OF THOSE THINGS WHICH IS WHY THIS PROJECT IS COMING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. SO THIS IS THE LOCATION THIS IS THE SITE PLAN I IT ON ITS SIDE FROM WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET SO THAT NORTH IS UP WHICH DOCK FARM ROAD HERE MAY OR HER ROAD WOULD STILL BE AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN OFF THE SCREEN OBVIOUSLY AND THEN AND THE TITLE CODE OF THE RIVER IS ON YOUR RIGHT HERE SO THIS IS THE HERE IF CLOUDED IT IN RED BUT IT IS THIS STOOP OR PORCH THAT IS OFF THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE AND THEN IN THE SITE THIS IS THE LOCATION. SO AGAIN I ROTATED IT SO THAT STOCKHOLM ROAD WOULD BE ON THE LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN, THE CODE WOULD BE ON YOUR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN AND THEN THIS ARE THE ELEVATIONS AS CURRENTLY EXISTING. SO THERE IS THIS SMALL PORCH HERE AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS PUT A ROOF OVER HERE. THIS IS PRIMARILY TO PREVENT WATER DAMAGE FROM GOING IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE OF THE WEIRD WAY THAT OR NOT THE WEIRD WAY BUT THE WAY THAT THIS CRICKETS HERE THEY'RE GETTING SOME WATER INSIDE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO PREVENT THAT OVER THE DOOR AND THE WINDOW AREA AND THEN THIS IS THE LEFT SIDE ELEVATION WHICH HAS THE STOOP HERE. IT IS SET BACK FROM THIS SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS IS THAT GARAGE WALL IS RIGHT HERE. SO FROM THE LEFT SIDE THIS WILL NOT STICK OUT PAST IT.

IT'LL SET BACK BEHIND THIS PLANE OF IT SO YOU WILL NOT SEE IT AT ALL FROM THE FRONT OR FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE HOUSE. YOU MAY SEE I GUESS A LITTLE BIT OF THE GABLED END FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE BUT NOT MUCH AND THEN THIS IS A WALL SECTION OR SECTION I GUESS BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ENCLOSED SPACE IT'S JUST THE ROOF OVERHANGING IT AS YOU HAVE HEARD BEFORE THE HPC REVIEWS THE EIGHT CRITERIA WHICH ARE SET FORTH IN SECTION 318 THREE OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE WHEN CONSIDERING AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE AND APPROPRIATENESS THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. AMANDA IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICATION SATISFIED THAT IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF 318 THREE AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND THEN IT'S HERE TO SPEAK ON THE PROJECT SO WE DIDN'T FIND ANY ISSUES AS TO I DON'T I'M SORRY AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE AS SAID APPROVAL BY THIS ANYONE HAVING A DISCUSSION ON THIS AND YOU WANT TO HAVE A CONCERN WELL DO WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD OR THERE YOU ARE I FORGOT ABOUT YOU WILL. I DON'T MEAN TO SCARE YOU.

I DON'T SEE YOUR LITTLE IN THE CORNER SO MUCH BUT I THINK IT WILL SO WITH THAT DEMANDED YOU WILL ADDRESS ANYTHING OR YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OR REGULAR OKAY SO LOOKING A MOTION ON A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS BY THE APPLICANT SO YOU GOT A SECOND I'M LOOKING FOR ANY DISCUSSION OF FAILURE. I I I I WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS SO THEREFORE IT PASSES SO THANK YOU. PERFECT.

THANK YOU FOR DOING YOUR HOMEWORK AND KNOWING IT HAS TO BE DONE.

OKAY I'M GOING TO SWAP OUT WITH SHIRLEY AND CAN TAKE OVER THE DISCUSSION AT ONCE SO HE'S THE APPLICANT. I WAS THE FIRST ONE ACTUALLY SHOWING UP FOR WHAT'S GOING ON AND GOT HOLD OF THE OTHER AND HE'S TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE THE PATIENT AND SO WE

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WILL START ON THE DISCUSSION IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS AND WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACKWARDS ON THIS I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. I'LL REACH TO HIM AGAIN AND HAVE ANOTHER VOTE JUST TO BE LEGAL EAGLE AND SAYING WE CHANGING THE AGENDA SINCE WE VOTED ON THE AGENDA LET'S DO THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE IN WRIGLEYVILLE SO I'M FOR A MOTION TO PUT CHARLOTTE'S DISCUSSION FORWARD NOW AND THE POSSIBILITY OF ONE NOT HAPPENING I GOT HIM SOME

[X.1. Discussion Regarding Potential Amendments to the Town of Bluffton Code of Ordinances, Chapter 23 - Unified Development Ordinance (UDO) Relating to Contributing Resources and Architectural Standards in Old Town Bluffton Historic District (Staff - Charlotte Moore)]

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SECOND. ALL RIGHT I I'LL PROVE THINGS WILL BE ALL RIGHT.

SHIRLEY YEAH. LET'S LET'S SO READY AGAIN. THIS IS LET ME ASK THE PROCEDURE ON THIS THIS IS PRESENTED TO AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING AFTER REVIEW AFTER LOOKING AT THIS IN BED, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW NIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I SEE SOMETHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED WE JUST BRING IT FORWARD AND YES THIS IS AN INFORMAL DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY VOTING AUTHORITY REGARDING TEXT AMENDMENTS BUT WE WANTED TO BRING THIS FOR FORWARD BEFORE YOU BEFORE GOES ON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHICH WE ANTICIPATE TO HAPPEN LATER IN THE MONTH OR POSSIBLY IN APRIL. WE TRY TO WORK THROUGH THAT.

SO THESE ARE AMENDMENTS THAT HAD BEEN SOME OF THEM WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR A WHILE NOW.

THEY'VE BEEN LINGERING AND THEN THERE ARE SOME OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WE'VE NEEDED THAT WE NEED GOING FORWARD. SO WHAT I WANT TO DO TONIGHT IS JUST HIGHLIGHT THEM AND I'VE GOT 16 PAGES OF AMENDMENTS WHICH SEEMS SUBSTANTIAL AS BAD AS IT IS AND YOU DO HAVE THEM AND THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU IF YOU WANT SCROLL THROUGH THAT WHILE I'M TALKING FEEL FREE TO DO THAT IF YOU WANT TO INTERRUPT OR ASK QUESTIONS IN THE PRESENTATION THAT'S FINE TO LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A HIGHLIGHT OF WHAT THE INTENT OF THIS IS. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO AMEND INCLUDING THE SECTION 3 TO 5 DESIGNATE DESIGNATION OF A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE AND THE PURPOSE OF THE CHANGE TO THAT PARTICULAR SECTION IS TO ADD A PROCESS TO REMOVE THE STATUS OF CONTRIBUTING FROM A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THAT WE'VE HAD AN INFORMAL PROCESS IN THE PAST BUT WE WANT TO FORMALIZE AND THAT'S SIMPLY USING THE CRITERIA THAT WE USED TO DESIGNATE A RESOURCE AND TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR THOSE CRITERIA STILL APPLY. AND I CAN BRING THAT AMENDMENT OR THAT TEXT UP IN A MOMENT KIND OF A NAME WHY THAT'S CHANGING IS THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS REVIEW.

WE WANTED TO ADD A PROCESS FOR RELOCATING WHETHER THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING OR NOT.

WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THAT IN THE PAST. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE CRITERIA FOR THAT SO WE'VE ADDED THAT OR OR ARE PROPOSING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR DEMOLITION OBSTRUCT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING AND WE'VE DONE SOME REFORMATTING TO THAT SECTION. I THINK THAT WILL BE EASIER AND UNDERSTANDABLE AS YOU READ THROUGH IT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SMALLER AMENDMENTS RELATED TO THE OLD TOWN BLUFFTON DISTRICT SECTION 513 INCLUDES THE REFORM ADDING SOME TYPOS AND WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING TO THE BILL TO ZONES FOR A COUPLE OF DISTRICTS WE RIGHT NOW THAT THERE ARE TOO MINIMAL AND THERE'S SOME DIFFICULTY PUTTING IN THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING AND PERHAPS THESE BUILT IN ZONES ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF OLD TOWN . WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES IN THE PAST RELATING TO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. THERE IS A GAP IN THE SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR SHEDS AND FOR CARRIAGE SO WE WANT TO CLOSE THAT GAP.

IN ADDITION WE ARE A PROPOSAL ON SOME DEFINITION CHANGES AND SOME ADDITIONS SO.

I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE FAIRLY QUICKLY SO MY POWERPOINT OR HIGHLIGHTING THE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE PROBABLY THE MORE IMPORTANT ITEMS AND THEN I CAN GO THROUGH THE TEXT IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO DO THAT I DON'T TO HIGHLIGHT EVERYTHING I'M NOT GOING TO READ ANYTHING TO YOU.

SO AGAIN IT'S VERY INFORMAL AND WE MAY FIND THERE SOME THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO CHANGE ADD OR MAYBE WE'VE MISSED WE NEED TO INCLUDE SO FOR THE COPA REVIEW PROCESS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO GET CLARITY ON IS HOW WE USE TERMS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO USE THE TERMS NEW CONSTRUCTION ALTERATION, RELOCATION AND DEMOLITION ROOM CLARIFICATION FOR ALL WHAT THE COPA WHAT IS CALLED THAT'S A CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD NEED DO ANY ANY TYPE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION OR ALTERATION WITHIN OLD TOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT SO THIS IS THE REVIEW PROCESS AND THE CRITERIA THAT APPLY TO THE REVIEW. SO FOR A NEW CONSTRUCTION WHICH WE SEE MOSTLY WITHIN OLD TOWN

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AND FOR ALTERATIONS THERE ARE FIVE CRITERIA THE. FIRST ONE IS NEW AND THIS WOULD REQUIRE THAT THERE TO BE AN APPROVED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

WE DON'T REQUIRE THAT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT BUT SAY IF IT'S A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WE'D LIKE FOR THAT PLAN TO BE APPROVED BEFORE WE LOOK AT THE BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE IS A BIT OF BACK AND FORTH WHEN PLAN CHANGES AND IT HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED AND THEN WE GET THE COFA AND THEN THE PLAN CHANGES AND WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND ADJUST COFA AGAIN.

SO IT KIND OF VOLLEYS BACK AND FORTH AND IT CREATES YOU KNOW, HUGE TIME FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND IT ALSO CREATES AN EXPENSE AS WELL EVEN FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO THAT CRITERIA IS NEW. THE CONFORMANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF ARTICLE FIVE THAT STAYS THE SAME THE REQUIREMENT FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN REMAINS AND WE ALSO INCLUDED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BLUEPRINT BLUFFTON WHICH WAS ADOPTED LAST YEAR.

WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THESE CHANGES IN OLD TOWN ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG RANGE PLAN AND THE CRITERIA SOMETHING WE KIND OF HAVE RIGHT NOW IT RELATES TO ITEM D IN FY 15 AND THIS IS SHOWING THAT THERE IS A VISUAL RELATIONSHIP. SO ANY TIME THERE'S NEW CONSTRUCTION OR ALTERATIONS WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT FITS IN THE CHARACTER OF OLD TOWN NOT THAT SOMEONE CAN YOU YOU CAN'T MAX OUT EVEN THOUGH THE BUILDING TYPE OR THE STANDARDS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT MAY ALLOW FOR THAT WE WANT TO GIVE THE BOARD THE ABILITY TO SAY PERHAPS SCALE IS INAPPROPRIATE OR THE MASS IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR A PARTICULAR LOCATION OR MAYBE THE SETBACKS ARE NOT CONSISTENT FOR A PARTICULAR STREET. SO THIS CRITERION I THINK IS SOMETHING WE'VE NEEDED AND WE'VE BEEF THAT UP SO TO SPEAK AND COMPLYING WITH THE APPLICATION'S MANUAL.

SO THAT'S NOT A CHANGE IF THE STRUCTURE IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN ADDITION TO THE FIVE CRITERIA I MENTIONED, THERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL THE FIFTH ONE RIGHT NOW WE ALREADY HAVE THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT COMPLY WITH THE THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS AND THEN SIX WE KIND OF HAVE THIS NOW TOO AND WE ARE ALSO BEEFING UP WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONS OR ANY ALTERATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE NEW WORK CAN DIFFERENTIATED FROM FROM WHAT'S THERE THAT IF SOME REASON FOR EXAMPLE SOMEONE WANTED TO ADD ON A PORCH THAT THE NEW ADDITION COULD BE DONE IN A WAY THAT IT COULD BE EASILY REMOVED WITHOUT DAMAGING THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITHOUT QUESTION MOVING THIS ADDITIONAL LET'S SEE FROM ABOVE A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE ADDITIONALLY SHALL NOT CULTURAL REMOVE A NEW WORD SHALL BE DIFFERENTIATED FROM THE OLD AND SHALL BE COMPATIBLE AS IS ADVANCED WOULD IF YOU GO BACK TO NEWER SO WE DIFFERENTIATED FROM THE OLD IF WE GO BACK TO THE OTHER I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT TO BE SIMILAR THAT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION ALTERATIONS.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE FIRE CRITERIA FIVE OR SIX APPLY TO CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IS ONLY SO IF YOU HAVE A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE YOU WANT TO DO IN ADDITION FOR EXAMPLE THE SIX CRITERIA WOULD BE APPLIED IN THE REVIEW IF IT'S ONLY NEW CONSTRUCTION OR ALTERATIONS CRITERIA ONE THROUGH FIVE WOULD THEN APPLY NOW I'M SORRY IN GLEN FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN IF IF IF YOU THINK IN FOR THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND IT JUST HAS TO BE FROM THE HISTORIC FORM OF THE BUILDING WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING NEW THAT WOULDN'T APPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD IT'S ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION SO ONE WHY WE WANT TO HAVE DIFFERENTIATED SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THE FORM SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO STILL TELL THAT THAT'S THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE IT JUST HAS A HISTORY THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE IS STILL THERE. YOU JUST HAVE AN ADDITION TO IT. SO HOW WOULD YOU DIFFERENTIATE IT SO FOR EXAMPLE THE OLD POST OFFICE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET THEY'RE DOING A NEW ADDITION ON THE SIDE WHICH IS THE PORCH AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO DOING THE ADDITION OF THE BACK THE BACK OF SMALLER DIFFERENT MATERIAL, DIFFERENT SHAPE. THE EXTERIOR WALL OF THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE WILL STAY THERE SO THAT A FUTURE OWNER WOULDN'T TAKE THAT PIECE DOWN THAT THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY

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OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURES LAYER BASED BUT IT STILL WOULD LIKE THE GOAL WOULD STILL BE TO MAKE IT LOOK OLD THEY'RE LOOKING AT MORE LOOKING YEAH OKAY THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD BUT YEAH YOU'RE THAT'S THE RIGHT I MEAN YOU SHOULD DIFFERENTIATE IT I THINK OF LIKE SOMETHING BRAND NEW LOOKING SET ON AN OLD BUILDING RIGHT.

CONTENT IS BASICALLY A VISUAL TERM TO OH I CAN SEE WHERE THE ADDITION WAS.

I STILL SEEMS LIKE IT'S A LITTLE WONKY THERE BECAUSE ONE THING ONE WON'T SAY THE OTHER SO IT'S JUST IT'S JUST IT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY DIFFERENTIATE YOU THINK IT'S GOT BE DIFFERENT AT SOME SIMILAR AND WHEN YOU WANT IT TO BE SIMILAR TO COMPLEMENT EXISTING STRUCTURE WOULD APPEAR TO BE IN THE LOOP THAT WAS ON IT BUT NOT IN THIS CASE JUST BE BIZARRE BUT I'M JUST LIKE YEAH I MEAN YES DELIBERATE DOES HAVE A PERIOD NO BUT I'M JUST I'M SORRY. YEAH YEAH. OKAY SO THAT TERM DIFFERENTIATE THAT WORD IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING AND WE CAN WORK ON THAT I THINK IT MEANT YEAH OKAY. RIGHT OKAY I UNDERSTAND SO LET'S SEE LET ME GO ON TO RELOCATION WITH STRUCTURES AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE MISSING RIGHT NOW IN OUR CURRENT COFA REVIEW PROCESS SO WE WANTED TO HAVE AN SOME CRITERIA THERE IF SOMEONE IS MOVING A NON CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WHICH MOST OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE WITHIN OLD TOWN WE TREAT THAT AS NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO IF SOMEONE'S MOVING A BUILDING INTO DISTRICT OR WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT'S NOT CONTRIBUTING AND IT'LL BE TREATED LIKE NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE LOCATION WHERE IT'S MOVING IF IT'S CONTRIBUTING THEN THERE ARE SPECIFIC CRITERIA WOULD BE THAT WOULD APPLY.

WE DON'T LIKE TO SEE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES MOVE UNFORTUNATELY BUT SOMETIMES THAT MAY BE NECESSARY AND WE BELIEVE THAT THERE MAY BE THAT THE APPLICANT MAY NEED TO PROVE AN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCE NANCE AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME SITUATIONS WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOO ONEROUS BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MAY REQUIRE TO BE MOVED. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT.

I'VE TALKED TO OUR LEGAL LEGAL STAFF ABOUT THAT AND WE ARE GOING TO BE EXACTLY RIGHT.

IT'S A FINDING THAT THERE ARE SHADES OF GRAY HERE AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING WITH THE FINAL FINAL BEFORE IT'S SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN OR BEFORE IT GOES.

PLANNING COMMISSION NO, I GUESS IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD.

CORRECT. PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING TO DO THE SAME.

THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR ADVISORY BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THE CHANGE THAT WILL BE BUT THEY WILL ACTUALLY VOTE ON IT. RIGHT.

THEY'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION MY QUESTION IS IS ARE WE GOING TO SEE PRIOR TO BEING SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD THE TOWN BOARD? YES, WE CONTINUE TO SEE THE COMPLETE COPY WE SUPPLY ALL OF US. SO WE HAVE EXCITING EVENING OF READING THROUGH THIS.

SURE WE COULD DO THAT. I WOULD JUST APPRECIATE THE INPUT FROM ALL AND WE CAN JOIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF. YOU STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT THEN WHEN IT'S BEING PRESENTED AND YOU KNOW MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE MAY TO.

AND SO AGAIN THE RELOCATION IF IT IS APPROVED BY THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION.

WE WILL REQUIRE THAT WHEREVER THE RECEIVING SITE IS THAT IT HAVE ITS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVED SO THAT WE HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IT WILL LIKE AT THAT LOCATION, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S APPROPRIATE AND THEN ONCE THAT IS COMPLETED THEN THE STRUCTURE CAN.

WE ARE ALSO IN ADDITION TO THIS DEVELOPING GUIDELINES THAT WILL GO ALONG FOR EXAMPLE REGARDING DOCUMENTATION THE BUILDING AND OF THIS SITE WORKING WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION NOTES REGARDING THE MOVE AND ANYTHING ELSE WE FEEL IS NECESSARY TO DOCUMENT AND MAKE CERTAIN THAT BUILDING MOVES SAFELY AND INTACT AS POSSIBLE, THERE WILL BE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING REPORT REQUIRED AND WE FROM THAT WILL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S INTEGRITY ISSUES, STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN BE MOVED INTACT OR PARTIALLY INTACT. YOU KNOW, IDEALLY WE WANT TO SEE THE WHOLE THING MOVE ITS WAY PASSABLE AND IF IT CAN'T THEN WE WANT TO HAVE SOME INPUT ON HOW IT'S MOVED AND AND PIECES HOW IT'S MOVED AND DEMOLITION AGAIN WE ALWAYS THAT DEMOLITION SHOULD BE THE ABSOLUTE LAST RESORT FOR NON CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES IT'S BASIC INFORMATION WE WANT TO

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DOCUMENT THE BUILDING NO MATTER HOW OLD IT IS AND MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE APPLICATION'S MANUAL FOR A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE. AGAIN THERE'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THRESHOLD FOR REVIEW THERE. THE CRITERIA THAT I'VE IDENTIFIED IN THE TEXT THAT YOU HAVE AGAIN STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING REPORT AND THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO DELAY THE DECISION 180 DAYS BECAUSE WE WANT TO TRY TO WORK OUT ANOTHER ARRANGEMENT IF POSSIBLE REACHING OUT TO OUR HISTORIC 180 DAYS IT SEEMED A LITTLE EXTREME. IT'S IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW AND AND THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MAY NOT NEED 180 DAYS BUT THAT WILL GIVE US SOME TIME TO REACH OUT AND FIND IT. MAYBE IT'S POSSIBLE TO RELOCATE THE BUILDING INSTEAD.

MAYBE SOMEONE TO PURCHASE THAT BUILDING. MAYBE IT CAN MOVED ELSEWHERE IN THE PROPERTY AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS TO SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE BEFORE IT IS DEMOLISHED AND IF IT IS APPROVED WE'D LIKE TO SEE A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY APPROVED FIRST. AGAIN THIS IS ANOTHER KIND OF A LEGAL THING WORKING THROUGH TO SEE IF NOT SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S FEASIBLE AND THEN AGAIN THE GUIDELINES WILL HAVE THOSE TO DOCUMENT THE BUILDING BEFORE IT'S DEMOLISHED. IF THAT'S THE CASE, DO YOU GO BACK SEE DOCUMENTATION OF A RESEARCH SITE REQUIRED? IN OTHER WORDS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT GUIDELINES FOR EXAMPLE HAVING TOWNSPEOPLE PRESENT WHEN DEMOLITION OR WHATEVER IS CREATED SO THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY WE DIDN'T SAY THAT.

YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS IT'S ALL DONE RIGHT. FOR EXAMPLE, IF EVERYONE HAPPY INCLUDING THE TOWN, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT SO THAT TO UNITE NOT BEING SO RESTRICTIVE BUT MAKING IT SO THAT PEOPLE TO DO THINGS RIGHT SO THAT THERE IS A CONDITION FOR EXAMPLE THAT YOU ASK FOR CERTAIN COMPONENTS TO BE REMOVED FOR REUSE PERHAPS OR FOR RESALE.

WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THOSE COMPONENTS ARE ACTUALLY TAKEN OFF AND THAT THEY'RE NOT DEMOLISH MUCH SO YOU KNOW WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE THERE ON THE SITE AT THAT TIME AND WILL WE HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT WE HAVE SOME GUIDELINES FOR THE TOWN'S FOLKS IN OTHER WORDS THAT COULD BE THERE? I'M JUST CONSIDERING IT.

OKAY. WE'LL BE THERE IN SIX MONTHS. YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S GOING TO BE DONE ON TIME. CORRECT. AND WE'LL ALL DEVELOP A PLAN THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE APPLICANT AND I GAVE AN EXAMPLE CHAPEL HILL AND THAT'S IN THE PACKAGE THERE AND KIND OF WHAT THEY DO AND WE'VE SEEN IT ELSEWHERE GLENN ME WITH AN EXAMPLE FROM BRUNSWICK, GEORGIA SO WE HAVE SOME GOOD YES. SO IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

OTHER COMMUNITIES DO HAVE GUIDELINES COPY. SO YES, WE THERE ARE SOME GOOD EXAMPLES OUT THERE WE CAN CERTAINLY BORROW FROM AND OKAY SO THAT'S PROCESS PART OF IT.

NOW LET ME SWITCH OVER TO WHAT I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT WE HAVE THIS GAP BETWEEN CARRIAGE HOUSE BUILDING TYPES AND GARDEN STRUCTURES. SO RIGHT NOW OUR CARRIAGE HOUSE BUILDING TYPE IS ANYTHING 200 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM AND OUR GARDEN STRUCTURE THESE ARE LESS THAN 120 SQUARE FEET. SO FOR BUILDINGS BETWEEN US THAT ARE GREATER THAN 120 SQUARE FEET AND LESS THAN 200, THERE IS THIS GAP. SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE THAT. WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS CHANGE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE BUILDING HEIGHT AND MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE TO 121 SQUARE FEET AND 121 IS WHERE A BUILDING PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED AND THEN FOR A GARDEN STRUCTURE WE WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO CHANGE OUR SMALL ACCESSORY BUILDING TO BE A AND NOT CALL THEM GARDEN STRUCTURES.

GARDEN STRUCTURES AND THAT'S NOT AN INTUITIVE TERM THERE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL WALLS GAZEBO IS PERGOLA PATIOS, ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ENCLOSED WE BELIEVE SHOULD BE CALLED A GARDEN STRUCTURE. SO THE LARGER BUILDING IS A CARRIAGE HOUSE BUILDING TYPE.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TO HAVE A DWELLING UNIT BUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A A BUILDING TYPE REQUIREMENT IT'S A CARRIAGE HOUSE AND THEN SORRY WORD OTHER THAN I DON'T KNOW SHED REMIND ME OF A STEEL THING THAT YOU BUY FROM SEARS WELL SHED IS IN OUR CURRENT STUDIO AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE USED IT AND THERE'S SOMETHING I'M JUST JUST PERSONIFIES SOMETHING LIKE YOU KNOW AND WE HAVE A WE WE DO HAVE A NEW TERM FOR THAT WHICH I CAN GO THROUGH IN JUST A

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MOMENT. BUT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA REGARDING SIZE I FOUND THIS GRAPHIC ON THE INTERNET THAT I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL SO THE SHED WHICH WOULD RECUR WOULD REQUIRE A SITE PERMIT IS ANYTHING LESS THAN 120 SQUARE FEET.

SO IT'S THE KIND OF THE TWO SMALL BUILDINGS THAT YOU SEE THE LEFT AND FOR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE 121 SQUARE FEET OR GREATER WOULD BE THE LARGER BUILDINGS THAT YOU SEE THERE.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SIZE THAT I'M TALKING YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN REGARDS TO THIS WHOLE SHARED CARRIAGE GARDEN IN THE AREA, THE PARCEL WAS THAT'S GOING TO HELP SATISFY THAT SO WE GET INTO THAT ABSOLUTELY BIG BROUHAHA THAT WE'VE YES PERFECT OKAY THAT'S THE WHOLE BILL I KNOW THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO TO THE DEFINITIONS AND I CAN BRING THEM UP IN JUST A MOMENT. I THINK THAT WILL HELP AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE THIS IS NOT LOCKED BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA SHED ON THE RIGHT DOESN'T NEED TO BUILD BUILDING PERMIT THE CARRIAGE HOUSE IN THE LEFT WOULD SHED THAT DOESN'T NEED A BUILDING PERMIT SO ANYTHING THAT'S OPENING UP THE DOOR BUT THEN THE BUILDING CODE PERMIT IS STILL REQUIRED BY FUTURE WHERE A CERTAIN OR A CERTIFICATE OF PROPERTIES DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING BUT IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT ANY STRUCTURE UNDER 20 SQUARE FEET THAT'S RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE DOES NOT REQUIRE ONE.

SO WE'RE NOT TO SEE SOME GUY DROPPING OFF HIS SHIRT THAT HE JUST BOUGHT LARRY'S CURRENCY NO MORE THAN USUAL. WE WOULD STOP IT THAT WAY BUT NO WE WOULD STILL REQUIRES PLANNING REVIEW WITH REVIEW IF IT'S OVER 121 SQUARE. IT'LL STILL BE PERMIT.

NO I UNDERSTAND IMAGINE IF IT'S A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT CORRECT.

IT ALL REQUIRES PLANNING IT DOESN'T REQUIRE BUILDING SPACE FOR HBC APPROVAL.

IT WOULD REQUIRE A STAFF REVIEW IF IT'S UNDER 121 WHICH IS THIS IS THE CURRENT DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE? WE DO NOT LIVE THERE. WE DO REALLY REALLY OKAY ALREADY I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE ALL CONVINCED YET BUT AND IT'S OKAY I KNOW IT CAN BE A LITTLE CONFUSING SO AS WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SIZE RANGE FOR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WE STARTED NOTICING A FEW OTHER THINGS TOO REGARDING SOME OF THE NOTES OR THE CHARACTERISTICS OF CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT WE THINK WE SHOULD ALSO CHANGE. AND SO THE FIRST ONE WE HAD AN ISSUE FAIRLY RECENTLY REGARDING ATTACH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND WE FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT HAS TO BE INCIDENTAL AND FROM THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING AND IF IT IS ATTACHED AND SO WE'VE ADDED SOME NEW LANGUAGE THERE WE'VE INDICATED THAT RIGHT NOW ONE CARRIAGE HOUSE IS PERMITTED PER LOT BUT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS ALONG THE RIVER FRONT THE ZONING DISTRICT THERE THAT THERE IS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE TO PER LOT PROVIDED THAT THERE IS AT LEAST ONE ACRE OF LAND IN THAT LOT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP IN THE PAST YEAR THAT WE WANTED TO CORRECT REGARDING WHAT THE CARRIAGE HOUSE CAN BE USED FOR. WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT JUST OF A VARIATION OF WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND THEN WITH GARAGE WE WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THE NUMBER OF BAYS AND THE SIZE OF THE BAY, THE WIDTH OF THE BAY TO LIMIT IT TO TWO BAYS THAT ARE NO MORE THAN 12 FEET. WHY THAT WILL ALLOW FOR A VEHICLE OR FOR BOAT AND THEN ADDITIONALLY ALLOW A THIRD BAY THAT'S NOT MORE THAN SIX FEET WIDE WHICH CAN BE A GOLF CART BAY AND FOR TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY TO REGARDING THE OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WE ALSO WANTED TO GIVE THE UTILITY ADMINISTRATOR THE ABILITY TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE LOCATION THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES BECAUSE IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE TO GET THAT INTO THE REAR YARD SO. THERE'S A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY THAT'S WRITTEN IN IT. IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE GARAGE IS LIMITED TO TWO BAYS NOT EXCEEDING 12 FEET AND WITH TO REWORD IT SUCH THAT IT DOESN'T SOUND 12 FEET TOTAL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIT TWO CARS AND BECAUSE IT A NATURAL GAS PASS ON SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT MAKES

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SENSE ALL ALREADY A NORMAL CAR WHEN THERE IS A MIX OKAY WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW I COULD SWITCH OVER TO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT I TALKED WE CAN GET INTO THE ACTUAL TEXT. SO AGAIN THIS IS THE DESIGNATION OF CONTRIBUTING PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A PROPERTY OWNER TO REQUEST THAT THE CONTRIBUTING STATUS BE REMOVED NOT A GREAT DEAL OF CHANGE HERE AND BASICALLY IT'S USING THE CRITERIA THAT WE APPLY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS CONTRIBUTING AND ASPECTS FOR THE DISTRICT AND APPLYING THAT CRITERIA TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BE REMOVED.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? THEN WE HAVE THE COVE HISTORICAL PERMIT PROCESS AND AGAIN I HAVE GIVEN YOU A CLEAN COPY HERE. I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT TO READ IF I HAD ALL THE STRIKETHROUGH IN RED AND UNDERLYING SO I GIVEN YOU A CLEAN COPY SOME OF IT WE'VE CARRIED OVER FROM CURRENT YOUDO SO THERE REALLY ISN'T MUCH CHANGE IN ONE AND TWO THE FORMATS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SO WE HAD THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND ALTERATIONS IT'S ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE WOULD APPLY AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THE VIDEO NOW IT'S KIND OF ALL MIXED IN.

THERE'S STUFF ABOUT DEMOLITION IT'S ALL MIXED IN TOGETHER. IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING AND THEN WE HAVE THE CRITERIA FOR CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES. WE'VE GOT THE CRITERIA SPECIFICALLY FOR RELOCATION AND THEN WE HAVE THE CRITERIA FOR DEMOLITION THE DELAY OF DECISION AND WE HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW 180 DAYS AND THEN THE EFFECT AND EXPIRATION OF APPROVALS AND THE AMENDMENTS STAYS THE SAME. THERE'S NO CHANGE THERE.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THE NEXT ONE ARE THE GARDEN STRUCTURES AND LET ME BRING UP THE TERM THAT WE HAVE FOR SHAD AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ THAT OUT AGAIN. THIS IS OUR SMALLER STRUCTURE THAT'S LESS 120 SQUARE FEET.

THERE ARE ARE ALSO INDICATING THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO MORE THAN THREE PER LOG BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THAT TOO AND WE DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME EXCESSIVE THREE SHOWS, THREE SHEDS AND IT COULD BE A FREEZE OR IT COULD BE AND AGAIN SHAD IS IS INTENDED TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE TERM IT'S JUST A SMALL BUILDING AND IT COULD BE IT COULD BE A FREEZER.

WE'VE ADDED A DEFINITION TWO FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WHICH WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR EXISTING YOUDO SO AGAIN THAT'S A COMPREHENSIVE UMBRELLA TERM AND THEN FOR GARDEN STRUCTURE WE'VE ADDED THAT IT'S KIND OF A STANDARD RIGHT IN THE YOUDO BUT IT WOULD BE BETTER AS A DEFINITION A TERM SO WE EVEN INDICATED THAT IT'S AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE AGAIN FENCES WALLS PERGOLAS GAZEBOS AND THEN SOME OTHER LITTLE ADJUSTMENTS THERE BASED ON THE PROPOSAL AND THEN AS I MENTIONED SOME CORRECTIONS RELATED TO THE CARRIAGE HOUSE SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICTS THERE'S THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES THAT ARE PERMITTED INCLUDING CARRIAGE HOUSE AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IN ALL OF OUR HISTORIC IS CROSS REFERENCE TO THE CARRIAGE HOUSE BUILDING TYPE RATHER THAN HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IN THIS LOCATION KIND OF POTENTIAL TO BE CONTRADICTORY.

SO THERE WILL BE A CROSS REFERENCE TO THE CARRIAGE HOUSE BUILDING TYPE AND THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE HERE THE VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS WE'RE MAKING THAT CROSS REFERENCE AND WHAT I TALKED ABOUT JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO WITH THE CARRIAGE HOUSE BUILDING TYPE SOME OF THE CHARACTERISTICS WE ARE MAKING CHANGES TO READY AND THEN LET ME MOVE ON TO AN ITEM THAT I DID NOT TALK ABOUT EARLIER I BELIEVE I REFERENCED IS THAT WITHIN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN OLD TOWN WE LIKE TO CHANGE THE BILL TO ZONE AGAIN. WE BELIEVE THE THE PROXIMITY

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OF SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS TO THE STREET IS TOO MINIMAL IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING TO BE THERE AND IS NOT NECESSARILY THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF BLUFFTON.

SO WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CORE DISTRICTS WE ARE PROPOSING SMALLER SETBACKS EXCUSE ME A LITTLE BIT LARGER. THEY'RE NOT SUBSTANTIAL. YOU SEE EVERYTHING IT'S PRETTY MUCH BETWEEN FIVE AND TEN FEET FOR THE VARIOUS BUILDING TYPES .

AND SO FOR EXAMPLE A MANSION APARTMENT HOUSE WAS ONLY FEET IN.

WE'RE PROPOSING NOW THAT IT BE TEN FEET AND FOR THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE TO GO FROM ZERO FEET WHICH IS NOT TYPICAL OF THE BLUFFTON OF OLD TOWN 0 TO 10 FEET AND THEN WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS DISTRICT AGAIN SOME ADJUSTMENTS THERE AS WELL NOW THINGS LIKE THE PROMENADE THAT'S BEEN APPROVED AND THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THEIR SETBACKS PART OF THEIR APPROVED PLAN NOT AFFECTED BY THIS BUILDING. THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S OF A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE BUT MUST TRY TO REMEMBER HOW MANY PROPERTIES DID HAVE THAT WE'RE UTILIZING.

YOU'LL FIND FOOT AND NOW YOU'RE DOING TEN FOOT SO YOU'RE REALLY EITHER MINIMIZING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR YOU'RE MINIMIZING YOUR SHRINKING. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL I BELIEVE FOR MOST PROJECTS BECAUSE THE MINIMUM WITH FOR A FRONT PORCH ON A STRUCTURE WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL IF IT'S MOST BUILDING TYPES REQUIRED TO HAVE A COLONNADE PORCH OR ARCADE WHICH IS ANOTHER PROJECTION FROM THE FRONT WHICH IS ALLOWED TO ENCROACH ON THAT FRONT BUILD TO BEAR SIX FEET A MINIMUM PORCH SIX FEET UP AND A MINIMUM COLONNADE IS EIGHT FEET. SO THE FRONT WALL OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE IT CANNOT OVERHANG THE PROPERTY LINE IS AT LEAST SIX FEET USUALLY EIGHT FEET WHICH GIVES THEM LESS WIGGLE ROOM ON SOME OF THESE THAN IT WILL NOW.

SO IF THERE'S A THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ALLOWING FOR THIS WIDER RANGE THAT'S PUSHED BACK FROM THE STREET A LITTLE BIT WILL ACTUALLY GIVE THEM MORE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PLAY IT'S THEIR HOME BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WITH THE MAXIMUM AT 15 IF YOU'RE REQUIRED EIGHT YOU'RE NOW DOWN I CAN'T DO THAT. I CAN'T EVEN LOOK FOR THE TV SHOW AREA. MORE LIGHTS ARE IN THERE BUT THAT'S GOING TO PUSH THE HOUSE BACK FURTHER AND SOME IT WON'T IN TABBY SHOW EITHER BECAUSE TABBY SHELL IS UNDER AN APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH HAS SET SOME SETBACKS ALREADY IN PLACE TABBY RHOADES STOCK FARM THE PROMENADE THROUGH THE MAE RIVER ROAD SUBDIVISION WHICH IS SUBDIVISION OFF GOBI ROAD. THOSE ALL HAVE PRE-DETERMINED SETBACKS WHICH ARE PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH WERE IMPLEMENTED PRIOR TO THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE SO THEY WON'T CHANGE ITS OPEN LOTS THAT HAVE JUST STRAIGHT ZONING THINKING LIKE THIS ONE WITH PLANS FOR THE ACCESSORY BUILDING ONLY 35 FEET STILL BECAUSE THAT'S CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT'S SO THE CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER WHAT ARE YOU AMANDA DENMARK PIERS ARCHITECTS OKAY OKAY I WAS ASKING IF THAT'S CHANGING TO THE TEN FEET THEN IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE STOCK FARM TARDIGRADES ALL OF THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SET SETBACKS I GUESS FOR CARRIAGE HORSES IS IT STILL FIVE OR TEN? YES, IT WOULD STILL BE FIVE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT BEING PROPOSED FOR CHANGE. SO IF YOUR INTENT.

YES, RIGHT. LET ME CONTINUE ON AND AGAIN THERE ARE A COUPLE LITTLE TYPO CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO FIX. WE ARE ALSO THERE IS A SECTION IN OLD HISTORIC DISTRICT AND 515 THAT RELATES TO LARGE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AND I'M EXACTLY CERTAIN WHY THIS IS IN HERE. IF YOU RECALL BACK IN 2021 WE MADE ADJUSTMENTS RELATING TO BUILDING SIZE AND THIS IS A STANDALONE SECTION OF FIVE 15.5 THAT EXISTS THAT DOESN'T SEEM NECESSARY. AND KATIE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU YOU'VE NEVER USED THIS HAVE YOU? 1223 MAY RIVER ROAD THE ONLY ONE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AT

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THIS TIME. OKAY THAT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING.

THAT'S THE OLD PROJECT. OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, LOOKING THROUGH THE VARIOUS CRITERIA IS JUST WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARY AND THAT OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE WILL COVER IT THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE AND THERE'S THAT SOME TYPE OF THINGS CHIMNEY IS WE'VE MADE A LITTLE CORRECTION AND I THINK THIS HAS COME UP A FEW TIMES I WON'T READ THAT WE'RE REMOVING THE WORD BULKHEAD FROM ONE OF OUR PHOTOGRAPHS THIS NOT A TERM THAT WE USE HERE IN BLUFFTON. IT DOESN'T EXIST ELSE THE EDO BULKHEAD MEANS SOMETHING DIFFERENT US AND ANYTHING ELSE LET'S SEE BASEMENT WE ARE REVISING THE TERM OR THE DEFINITION FOR BASEMENT AND KATIE IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT IT I THAT MEAN THERE THERE ARE A FEW BUT IT'S NOT STANDARD AND THIS JUST SHOWS UP THAT LANGUAGE SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING FIVE STORY BUILDINGS THAT ARE CLAIMING TO BE BASEMENTS RIGHT THINKING AHEAD AND WE ACTUALLY HAD THE TERM BASEMENT IN THERE WHICH IS I NEVER KNEW THAT EXISTED UNTIL I DID A WORD SEARCH AND WE ARE TAKING THAT ONE OUT THERE DOES MAKE REVISIONS TO THE CURRENT DEFINITION FOR BUILDING PROVIDING A DEFINITION FOR HISTORIC INTEGRITY WHICH WE USED BACK IN SECTION 318 SOME TWEAKS TO THE DEFINITION FOR PRINCIPLE BUILDING WE'RE ADDING A DEFINITION FOR STUCCO AND AGAIN WE HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE TYPO LITTLE CORRECTION THERE. SO IT'S A FAIRLY BROAD APPROACH TO OUR AMENDMENTS. IT'S POSSIBLE WE MAY IDENTIFY SOME OTHERS POSSIBLE THAT YOU MAY HAVE SOME THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT OR THAT WILL NEED TO ADJUST AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WE HAD WILL UNFOLD? ANWYL HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS GET GO.

I KNOW ANYBODY WHERE THERE'S PICTURES OF WILL WHEN THEY WERE WRITING THE ORIGINAL STUFF.

SO WILL YOU BE A VERY GOOD SOURCE OF REALLY LOOKING THROUGH THIS? AND I'M GOING TO ASK ONE MORE TIME THAT WE GET A COPY OF IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S STILL A FEW THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CORRECTED AND IF YOU CAN MAKE SURE YOU GET A COPY OF THIS TO US I PREFER PAPER SO I APOLOGIZE THERE YOU HAVE TO BUT WE TO GET A PAPER COPY PRIOR TO SUBMITTAL TO THE TOWN AND IF YOU COULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR REVIEW.

WELL I'M GOING TO ASK YOU'RE INPUT ON THAT TOO SINCE YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THESE YOU THERE WILL. YES, MA'AM. SO I THINK YOUR INPUT WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE NOT SAYING THAT THE PEOPLE'S INPUT IS INVALUABLE BUT YOU WILL BACKGROUND WITH WHAT HE'S DONE. I THINK IT WOULD BE VALUABLE. UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU. OKAY. SO EARLIER THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE TERM IN DO YOU WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO TALK ABOUT THAT NOW OR SHOULD YEAH.

OKAY. LET ME MEET MY AUDIENCE SO BACK AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 2020 WE DID UPDATES TO OUR VARIOUS LODGING LEASES PERMITTED IN TOWN INCLUDING ADDING SHORT TERM VACATION RENTAL AND AT THAT TIME WE LOOKED AT OUR EDITOR AND OUR EDITOR AT LODGING TYPES OF USES AND IDENTIFIED WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE APPROPRIATE.

SO WE DID MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THEM AS WELL INCLUDING THE DEFINITION OF INN IN A HOTEL SO IT IN IS 6 TO 12 BEDROOMS, A HOTEL IS 13. WE DO HAVE AN INN IN OLD TOWN BUT THAT'S ROOMS SO TECHNICALLY FOR ZONING PURPOSES THE INN IS A HOTEL AND THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. ONE OF OUR CONCERNS WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN OUR CITY ACROSS THE RIVER WHERE THEY HAD A SITUATION WHERE SOME DEVELOPER CAME IN, PURCHASED SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN A ROW AND SUDDENLY THE INN ON ONE PROPERTY BECAME AN INN ON THE SECOND PROPERTY IT ACTUALLY BECAME A HOTEL BECAUSE IT WAS ALL UNDER THE SAME MANAGEMENT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A PROPRIETOR REQUIRED LIVE WITHIN THE INN TO AVOID A SITUATION

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LIKE THAT AND SO THERE IS POTENTIAL THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN AND INTERESTING WHAT'S THE WORKAROUND ON THAT I'M JUST THINKING IT ALWAYS WORDING LAWYER AND YOU KNOW LAWYER UP KIND OF THINKING THAT YOU HAVE EVERY OPTION TO PREVENT THE SITUATION IN ACROSS THE RIVER I THINK THANK YOU LEGALLY RIGHT NOW BUT SURE THERE'S SOME PRETTY INTERESTING WAYS TO ORDER UP ON THAT SO IT PREVENTS THAT BUT ALLOWING AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IN WHY THE NEED FOR AN ID WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT BUT THE DEVELOPER IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THE TWIST AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. YEAH SO I JUST WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT OR.

WHO DO WE NEED TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS TO OUR ATTORNEY RICHARDSON.

RICHARDSON JUST THE POSSIBILITY SO THAT YOU KNOW AGAIN IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S DEVELOPED SO THAT YOU PREVENT NOT EVEN THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT EVER HAPPENING BUT DEVELOPERS AND DEVELOPERS PEOPLE WAS THE REASON FOR PUTTING THAT THE PERSON HAD TO LIVE ON PROPERTY, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO THEY'RE A WHAT TAKEN AWAY THEN WHAT'S HAPPENED AT AN ACROSS THE RIVER CAN HAPPEN HERE IS WHAT IF THE GUY SIGNS ON MY PROPERTY STORED SEPARATE AND HE KNEW I'M SAYING YEAH YEAH YEAH BUT IF THE STIPULATION STATES THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HAS LIVE ON THE PROPERTY IT TAKES THAT AWAY.

THAT'S WAS IN QUESTIONS FOR US RIGHT AWAY SO THAT BUT TAKEN A WAY IN RIGHT WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK TO LEGAL BECAUSE TAKING IT AWAY NOW OPENS IT UP TO THE WHAT WE DON'T WANT RIGHT BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M SAYING YOU MIGHT BE I DON'T KNOW THERE'S A WAY TO LAWYER UP ON IT SO THAT YOU CAN PREVENT THAT CONCEPT. NO, NO. YOU KNOW TO DREAM PROPERTIES CANNOT BE CONSIDERED AN THAT CLAUSE EQUAL IN THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE CAN DO THAT ON A PERMANENT TRANSFER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT SO OKAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT I JUST TALKING ABOUT REAL ESTATE THAT'S IT. YEAH AT THE END I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN LET ME I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO HELP THEM BUT PREVENT IT FROM HELP FROM HAPPENING. YEAH THEN MARK PIERCE THAT ARTICLE I WANT TO CLARIFY LITTLE BIT MAYBE WHAT PIERCE IS TRYING TO SAY I GUESS FOR AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE NOT THE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES BUT LIKE IF YOU HAD A HOUSE THAT COULD DO MORE WHAT'S THE AND HOW MANY NUMBERS THAT I'M SORRY BEN BREAKFAST FOR BREAKFAST 225 2 TO 5 SAY YOU HAD A SIX BEDROOM HOUSE WAS AND YOU WANTED TO RENT THAT OUT TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE I MEAN BUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND AND AN INN IF IT'S JUST A NUMBER I GUESS LIKE ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROVISIONS LIKE A BED AND BREAKFAST YOU HAVE TO SERVE PEOPLE AND YOU KNOW BREAKFAST AND WHATEVER AND AN INN IS MANAGED BY SOME COMPANY THAT TAKES CARE OF THE PROPERTY BUT NOT GETTING BREAKFAST LIKE THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME OTHER DEFINITION IN BETWEEN THEN BREAKFAST AND JUST THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT'S CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT LIKE A BED AND BREAKFAST IS NORMALLY PROPRIETOR WEREN'T WOULDN'T BE I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CLARIFICATION AND A MORE DIRECT DEFINITION I THINK RATHER HAVING A DISTINCTION THERE ANYWAY SO THEN WHY DON'T WE JUST HAVE ONE TERM WHY WOULD IT EVEN BE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN A BED AND BREAKFAST IN A NAME? WHAT'S POINT? WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST SAY IT CAN ONLY BE ABOUT BREAKFAST? IT CAN A HOTEL THERE'S NO IN BETWEEN BECAUSE THAT IN BETWEEN IS NOTHING THAT YOU KNOW MAYBE YEAH.

OKAY VERY GOOD. SO CHARLOTTE ARE YOU COMPLETE? I AM BUT THA, JOHN.

[XI.1. Certificate of Appropriateness. A request by Steven Milloy, on behalf of the owner, Ray Bruen, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness – HD application to allow the construction of a 1-story Carriage House of approximately 576 SF behind the existing residential structure located at 2 Tabby Shell Road in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-HD. (COFA-12-22-017450) (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

GOOD. SO LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE THAT WAS OVER

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AGENDA. THE APPLICANT IS HERE. YES, I AM BRUCE HERE.

I WAS LOOKING AT MY EMAILS AND I IT OUT BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE IT WAS ACTUALLY DELIVERED SO THIS IS LIKELY NO FAULT THE APPLICANT SO I WOULD LIKE TO THROW THAT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW BUT I DID GET A HOLD OF THE BRUINS. THEY HAVE COME TO SIT HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT. SO IF YOU HAVE THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER THEM.

I HOPE THAT MY REPORT HAS COVERED ALL OF THOSE THINGS SO THAT YOU WON'T IN THEORY HAVE MANY QUESTIONS BUT TO GET THE PROCESS ROLLING THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A STRUCTURE AT TWO TAMMANY HALL ROAD IT IS A 576 SQUARE FOOT CARRIAGE HOUSE.

IT IS A ONE STORY CARRIAGE HOUSE TO BE LOCATED BY THE STRUCTURE THAT IS BEING CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED AT TWO TABISH ROAD IT'S HERE IN THE TOWN OFTEN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IT'S OWN NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL THE LOCATION THIS IS RIGHT HERE.

SO THIS IS PRICHARD STREET. WE'RE SITTING RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN HERE SOUTH OF THE POOL AND THIS IS THE STRUCTURE BECAUSE THIS IS BLOCKING EXPLORER YOU DON'T SEE THAT THERE IS IN FACT BUILDING THAT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED THERE RIGHT NOW.

WELL, YOU'RE STILL WITH US, RIGHT? YOU THERE? YES, I AM HERE. OKAY. SO THIS PROJECT CAME BEFORE YOU A FEW YEARS AGO. I'VE GOT THE DATE IN THE STAFF REPORT BUT WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU THE FIRST TIME THERE WAS A CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT WAS PLACED BACK HERE IT WAS A TWO STORY CARRIAGE HOUSE AND SINCE THE TIME THAT THAT WAS APPROVED THEY THAT THEY WANT TO GO WITH A ONE STORY CARRIAGE HOUSE INSTEAD OF THAT TWO STORY CARRIAGE HOUSE.

SO WHY THIS IS COMING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT HERE IS YOUR SITE PLAN THIS THAT FIEDLER LANE WHICH RUNS BEHIND THE POST OFFICE AND ALL OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON TV THERE THIS IS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE THIS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED WHEN THEY REMOVED THE CARRIAGE HOUSE, THE PLANS THEY HAD TO SHOW THAT THEY COULD STILL MEET THE CANOPY COVERAGE AND SO THEY HAVE DONE BUT THEY'VE STILL GOT THE CARRIAGE HOUSE ON THERE SO THEY ARE EXCEEDING THE CANOPY COVERAGE WHICH IS EXCELLENT. THESE ARE THE FLOOR PLANS.

IT'S A GARAGE. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE NOT OUT OF YOUR SUBTRACTING.

RIGHT. AND EVERYTHING THE SAME? WELL EVERYTHING'S THE SAME.

IT'S SUCH AS MISSING A TOP STORY. SO THE ELEVATION THE OTHER REASONS ARE RIGHT HERE. SO THIS GARAGE FRONT ELEVATION IS ACTUALLY THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE PROPERTY THAT FIEDLER LANE WHICH IS THE ACCESS FOR THE TABBY HAVE YOU SHALL ROAD LOTS AND THEN YOU HAVE THE REAR ELEVATION WHICH FACES TOWARDS THE HOUSE.