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AND SAFETY COMMITTEE.[1. CALL TO ORDER]
SARAH, ARE YOU GUYS ALL SET ONLINE? OH, SOMEBODY'S GOT THERE.IF YOU GUYS WILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES REPUBLIC.
FOR WHICH ONE? NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED IN DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
UH, COULD YOU ALSO CALL ROLL FOR US? I WILL.
COUNCIL CHAIRMAN PASSMAN HERE.
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
YOU.I ASKED FOR APPROVAL FOR THE AGENDA.
THAT IS APPROVED APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES- January 23, 2023]
THE JANUARY, 2020 THIRD MEETING.WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN'S COMMENTS? I DON'T SEE ANY ONLINE EITHER.
WE'LL CLOSE OUT CITIZEN'S COMMENT
[7. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, OR ITS DESIGNEE, THE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 114 ELLIOTT STREET]
AND MOVE RIGHT INTO NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM.RECOMMEND APPROVAL RESOLUTION, AUTHORIZING THE ACCOUNT ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY MEMORIAL HOSPITAL OR IT'S DESIGNEE, THE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE 14 ELLIOT STREET.
ELLIOT STREET IS PART OF, UM, SIX DIFFERENT PARCELS THAT WE ACTUALLY PURCHASED LAST FALL.
WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH BEFORD MEMORIAL.
UM, AT THIS TIME THEY HAVE A LACK OF HOUSING AND AN INFLUX IN NURSES AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO QUICKLY FIND SOME AT LEAST TEMPORARY HOUSING FOR SO THAT THEY CAN BECOME STAFF MEMBERS AT THE HOSPITAL.
UM, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, UM, ABOUT ONE 14 ELLIOT STREET, THEY ARE A NONPROFIT.
PURSUANT TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY POLICY, THEY WOULD RECEIVE A 50% REDUCTION IN THE RENTAL RATE.
UM, OUR APPRAISER HAS PROVIDED A AVERAGE RENTAL RATE FOR THIS SIZE HOME AT 8 18 10 A MONTH.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, BUFORT MEMORIAL WOULD BE LEASING IT FROM THE COUNTY FOR NINE 50 A MONTH.
UM, AND PURSUANT TO THAT AGREEMENT, WE WOULD USE THIS AS AN EXCEPTION TO, UM, BUFORT MEMORIAL AND WHO THEY ARE, UM, AND ASSOCIATED WITH THE COUNTY AND ALLOW THEM TO SUB-LEASE THE PROPERTY.
THAT SUB-LEASE WOULD BE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL NURSING NURSES OR OTHER STAFF MEMBERS.
SO THAT WOULD KEEP IT SO THAT THE UM, BU MEMORIAL IS STILL OBLIGATED FOR ANY, UM, LIABILITY OR FOR THE RENT IF NOT PAID.
UM, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THEM TO CONTRACT WITH THE STAFF AND THE NURSES, UM, ON THEIR END.
WHO PAYS THE UTILITIES? IT WOULD BE FOR BU MEMORIAL TO PAY THOSE, THE INSURANCE AND ACCELER, ET CETERA.
WE WOULD STILL HAVE OUR GENERAL, OUR HOUSE INSURANCE ON IT, UM, AS THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE THE RENTER'S INSURANCE.
AND IS THE RATE THAT THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE GONNA BE GREATER THAN WHAT WE'RE CHARGING? LIKE MEANING CAN THEY MAKE PROFIT OFF OF? NO, THAT IS NOT THE INTENTION OF THIS.
THEY WOULD BE RENTING IT TO FOR THE AMOUNT THAT THEY STAFF.
AND THAT IS ON THEM TO DECIDE.
AND I AM NOT SAYING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO SUBLEASE IT.
THEY MAY USE THIS AS, UM, SOME, UM, PROPERTY THAT THEY CAN HAVE TEMPORARY HOUSING IN, MEANING SOMEBODY'S MOVING TO THE AREA AND JUST NEED SOMEWHERE TO LIVE FOR TWO OR THREE WEEKS.
SO IT IS ON THEM AND WE'RE ALLOWING THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR THEM.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE IT WRITTEN IN THE CONTRACT THAT THEY CAN'T MAKE A PROFIT ON IT? MEANING IF WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM A 50% DISCOUNT, THEY CAN'T GO RENT IT FOR 1500 AND THAT'S THE EXTRA 1600 THAT THEY CAN USE TO PAY FOR OTHER THINGS? WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THERE.
THAT IS NOT TYPICALLY IN OUR LEASE CONTRACT, BUT I CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT IS INCLUDED.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S JUST AN IDEA FOR ME.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE FEELS ABOUT IT, BUT I FIGURED IF WE'RE
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GONNA GIVE A DISCOUNT, WE SHOULD PROBABLY MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN AT LEAST PROFIT ON OUR UNDERSTOOD.I'M, I'M THINKING THAT THIS IS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND HOUSING.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING IN STAFF INTO THE AREA AND THEY'RE HAVING, I'LL SAY, SOME SETBACKS WHEN IN THAT HIRING PROCESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE IMMEDIATE HOUSING FOR A NURSE OR A DOCTOR THAT'S COMING INTO THE AREA.
SO THEY'RE USE, THEY WOULD BE USING THIS PROPERTY AS A TOOL TO BRING IN A NURSE AND ALLOW FOR THEM TO STAY AT THE PROPERTY FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, OR IT MAY BE THAT THEY HAVE A TRAVELING NURSE.
SOME TRAVELING NURSES ARE ONLY HERE FOR THREE MONTHS, ON SIX MONTHS.
UM, SO THIS WOULD BE USED TO FACILITATE AND HELP THEIR, THEIR STAFFING ISSUES.
AND WELL, LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THE FLOOR THEN.
UM, UM, HOW MANY, HOW MANY, THIS IS JUST ONE UNIT.
THIS IS ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
AND IT'S A THREE BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOM.
WOULD THREE NURSES GET TO LIVE IN IT OR JUST ONE? THAT WOULD BE AT BUFORT MEMORIAL'S DISCRETION.
THEY'VE ALSO HAD OTHER SITUATIONS WHEREBY, FOR INSTANCE, WE WERE TOLD THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL DOCTORS THAT HAVE COME AND THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO COME, BUT THEY CAN'T FIND A HOUSE RIGHT AWAY.
SO IT MAY BE THAT THEY FIND IT'S, UM, BEST PURPOSE IS TO ALLOW FOR A DOCTOR AND ITS FAMILY TO STAY THERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THEY FIND A HOUSE.
UM, I DO WANNA BE CLEAR THAT WE ARE ALSO DISCUSSING WITH BEAUFORT MEMORIAL THE, UM, OPTION AND WHAT TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY IN ITS ENTIRETY.
SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT, UM, I'LL SAY IS IN THE BEST CONDITION TO ALLOW FOR AN IMMEDIATE USE OF IT.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS THE ONLY ONE COMING FORWARD TODAY, WHICH MAKES SENSE THAT THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL IDEA BEHIND IT WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY FROM TCL WITH SOME TYPE OF HOUSING FOR NURSES OR DOCTORS IN THAT AREA.
SO WHAT HAPPENS AFTER, SAY, IF A PERSON COMES A DOCTOR, WHATEVER, THREE MONTHS? UM, UH, THE RENT STOPS? NO.
UM, AGAIN, BUFORD MEMORIAL AND THE COUNTY WOULD BE IN A LEASE.
THEY'RE OBLIGATED TO PAY THAT RENTAL AMOUNT REGARDLESS OF ANYBODY'S OCCUPYING THE PROPERTY OR NOT.
THEY MAY HAVE TO MAKE A LITTLE PROFIT.
MAY I JUST KEEP THE WRITTEN? WELL, I, ONE OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS WAS GONNA BE, DON'T WE GIVE MONEY TO BEAU MEMORIAL? SO WOULDN'T WE PROVIDE SOME FUNDING? WOULD THEY BE IN TURN JUST REPAYING US WITH OUR OWN FUNDS?
THIS IS PURSUANT TO THE BEAUFORD COUNTY LEASING POLICY IS JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
THE RATE IN WHICH THEY BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATE.
IT WAS OUR ORIGINAL IDEA BEHIND IT.
UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. WARD? I WILL CERTAINLY MAKE THAT MOTION.
MR. PASSMAN MAKES THE MOTION A SECOND.
DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL OR CAN WE MOVE THIS FORWARD UNANIMOUSLY TO COUNTY COUNSEL.
[8. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO COMMISSION TWO SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS]
UH, NUMBER EIGHT IS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO COMMISSION TWO TWO SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
DOES ANYBODY NEED ANY CLARITY ON THIS ONE OR DID YOU ALREADY GUYS ALREADY CHECK THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS? MM-HMM.
UM, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT, 9, 10, 11 ALL GO TOGETHER.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THOSE ALL TOGETHER IF THAT'S OKAY.
UNLESS HAS AN OBJECTION TO THAT.
UM, BEFORE WE GO, CAN I GO BACK TO NUMBER EIGHT? UH, CAN FOR A SECOND? SURE.
NEIL'S NOT HERE, IS HE? UH OH.
UM, IS THIS ENTRE HORN HOME IS, I THOUGHT HE'S CURRENTLY WORKING IN THAT CAPACITY, IS HE NOT? HE IS.
SO IN 2019, WE ESTABLISHED OUR TRAIL AS THE FIRST CODE ENFORCEMENT UNDER SOLID WASTE.
SO AT CONVENIENCE CENTERS OR ILLEGAL DUMPING OR AT BOAT LANDINGS.
IN 2020, WE CAME BACK TO COUNCIL AND WE ASKED FOR TWO MORE.
SO BASICALLY THE, UM, FOREMAN OVER THE CONVENIENCE CENTER, SO JOHN MILLAGE AND DEIDRA BROWN.
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SINCE THEN, DEIDRA HAS LEFT AND SO THIS WOULD BE, UM, MAKING TWO MORE.SO, UM, TWO MORE INDIVIDUALS WITH THAT AUTHORITY.
[Items 9, 10, & 11]
TAKE NUMBER 9, 10, 11.ALTOGETHER NUMBER 10 IS ENFORCEMENT APPROVE OR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE 2023 PALMETTO PRIDE LITTER CREW GRANT AWARD NUMBER 11 IS A RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE 2023 PALMETTO PRIDE.
KEEP SOUTH CAROLINA BEAU BUFORD AFFILIATE SUPPORT GRANT BOARD.
DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THOSE THREE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION A SECOND.
JARED, DO WE NEED ANY BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THOSE THREE? I CAN GIVE YOU BRIEFLY A ONE MINUTE OVERVIEW ON ALL THREE OF THEM.
SO THESE THREE ARE ONES THAT WE APPLY FOR ANNUALLY.
THEY'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT GRANTS.
THERE'S NO MATCH REQUIRED FROM D HC.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS $6,500 FOR EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING PURPOSES.
THE SECOND ONE IS $25,000 FOR LITTER CLEANUP WITH, UH, WE USE THAT WITH THE OUTSIDE VENDOR ARE ADOPT A HIGHWAY PROGRAMS. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PICK UP ON THE SHOULDERS, BUT NOT IN THE CENTER MEDIAN.
SO ALONG US, UH, ONE, OUR US 21 AND SC ONE 70, UH, WE, WE WILL BE USING THE OUTSIDE VENDOR TO HELP ON THAT.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS $10,000 TOWARDS WASTE REDUCTION.
AND THAT SUPPORTS OUR ADOPT A HIGHWAY PROGRAM.
SO ALL THREE OF 'EM, UM, ARE READY TO BE EXPENDED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ACCEPTING THE GRANTS.
AND ALL THREE ARE BELOW THE THRESHOLDS.
THEY CAN BE DONE AT COMMITTEE LEVEL.
SO, UM, RESOLUTION SURVEILLANCE COUNCIL, AND THE REASON WE BRING IT FORWARD IS CAUSE THE DEPARTMENT WORK HARD TO GET THIS RIGHT.
SO ALL THREE OF YOU NEED TO GO FORWARD TO COUNSEL THEN.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THESE TO COUNSEL? YOU DID.
AVO, ANY OBJECTION? NO, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION.
I JUST WANT TO, I KNOW THEY DO IT EVERY YEAR, BUT I WANT TO THANK THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING DEPARTMENT, AS YOU NOTED FOR PUTTING THESE GRANTS IN BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SORT, SORT OF AUTO, YOU GET IT, THEY STILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT.
SO SOMEBODY STILL HAS TO PUT IN THE TIME AND I APPRECIATE THEY DID THAT.
ANY OTHERS? ANY OBJECTION? MM-HMM.
MOVE THIS FORWARD UNANIMOUSLY FOR NINE, 10, AND 11.
[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING BEAUFORT COUNTY TO WORK WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND TO DEVELOP SUSTAINABLE AND VIABLE LONG-TERM RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, RECYCLING, AND ORGANIC WASTE SOLUTIONS]
UH, NUMBER 12, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED IN BEAUFORT COUNTY TO WORK WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD TO DEVELOP SUSTAINABLE AND VIABLE LONG-TERM RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, RECYCLING AND ORGANIC WASTE SOLUTIONS.UH, THAT'S YOU, JARED, AND DAVE, CORRECT? YEP.
SO DAVE CAN, UM, BE MY REINFORCEMENT.
HOPEFULLY I CAN PITCH IT TO YOU GUYS AND MAKE SENSE OUT OF IT.
SO WHAT THIS IS, IS, UM, THE GREATER ISLAND COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, FOR SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATED WITH TOWN OF HILTON HEAD STAFF AND WITH US, UH, OUR SOLID WASTE STAFF AND COLLECTIVELY SAID, HEY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING WITH OUR WASTE.
WE RECOGNIZE THE COUNTY THAT YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH EFFORTS TO ESTABLISH A MURF AND COMPOSTING AND EVERYTHING SUSTAINABLE IN SOLID WASTE.
WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE INTEND TO WORK TOGETHER AS YOU DEVELOP YOUR FACILITIES TO HAVE OUR TRASH PROCESSED AT YOUR FACILITIES.
SO THIS IS A, UM, A KUMBAYA WITH US IN THE TOWN.
THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT ON THEIR END, THIS RESOLUTION.
AND OUR HOPE IS THAT WE'LL TAKE THIS RESOLUTION AFTER PASSED AT OUR COUNCIL AND TAKE IT TO THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND HAVE A SIMILAR RESOLUTION WITH ALL, ALL SIX, UH, MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND THEN AGAIN, ONCE OUR FACILITIES ARE ESTABLISHED, THAT WASTE STREAM WOULD, WOULD PROCESS THROUGH.
SO THAT'S THE INTENT AND THE PURPOSE.
MR. MR. CHAIRMAN GREATER ISLAND COUNCIL, HOW DO THEY GET INVOLVED WITH THIS? UH, THEY JUST STAND UP AND THEY'RE VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE READY TO BE IN ACTION IS ALL I CAN GUESS.
I THINK CHAIRMAN PASSAM IS, IS ON THE GREATER ISLAND COUNCIL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE IS, BUT THEY'RE A VERY INVOLVED GROUP.
AND AGAIN, THESE LAST NINE OR 10 MONTHS GETTING INTO THIS POSITION, I RAN A LOT ACROSS A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE GIC AND I, I DO YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THAT? UM, WHO, WHO RUNS THAT GIC? IS THAT PETER CHRISTIAN? IS IT, UH, FORMAL COUNCIL MEMBERS? UM, NO.
BEFORE, BEFORE WE FINISH DISCUSSION, CAN WE DO GET A FIRST AND SECOND TO OPEN UP DISCUSSION? OH, SORRY.
SO IF WE CAN GET A FIRST AND A SECOND.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THE FIRST MR. PASON.
AGAIN, I WANNA UNDERSTAND BECAUSE, UM, JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, OUR PREVIOUS COUNCIL, WE HAVE, UM, AND I'M TRYING TO READ EVERYTHING I CAN TO GET UP TO SPEED WITH EVERYBODY, BUT, UH,
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WE VOTED FOR A CHARLOTTE GROUP, UM, HDR, H D I, TO HAVE AN OPEN-ENDED CONTRACT UP TO $500,000 TO DO.I'D SAY ALL OF WHAT YOU'RE PROBABLY PROPOSING HERE RIGHT NOW, I, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED THE GREATER ISLAND COUNCIL INVOLVED WITH THAT GUIDING TOWN, THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AND US TO DO.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE JUST A INTERESTED PARTY THAT WANTS TO SEE BETTER IN OUR SOLID WASTE AS A REGION AND AS A COUNTY.
SO THEY REACHED OUT TO THE TOWN AND THE TOWN SAID, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
SO ALL THREE OF US, UH, WORK TOGETHER TO DEVELOP THE, THIS LANGUAGE THAT BASICALLY SAYS WE AIM TO DO BETTER WITH OUR WASTE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS.
IS THERE ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH, UM, I HEARD SOME OF THESE, SOME, SOME OF THE FOLKS SPEAK ON THIS BEHALF.
I SEE THERE'S NO FISCAL OBLIGATIONS, RESPONSIBILITIES.
ARE THEY, DO THEY HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO MANDATE? IN OTHER WORDS, I THINK I HEARD SOMEBODY FROM AND CHAIRMAN PASSMAN TELL ME, I'M MISTAKEN HERE.
SOME OF THESE FOLKS WITH THE GIC, I TALKED ABOUT HAVING A MANDATORY PROGRAM WHERE ALL, LET'S SAY, LET'S USE HILTON HEAD EXAMPLE FOR AN EXAMPLE.
ALL RESIDENTS THERE TO PAY FOR A FEE FOR GARBAGE REMOVAL, WHETHER THEY USE THE SERVICE OR NOT.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT USE THAT DILLON ROAD RECYCLING CENTER.
YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.
NOW, WILL THEY, DO THEY HAVE ANY, UM, AUTHORITY TO DICTATE NO, THE GREATER ISLAND COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO, TO ANY POLICY THAT'S, THAT'S A COUNTY COUNCIL OR TOWN COUNCIL POLICY LEVEL.
THEY CAN, THEY COULD JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE PETITION A, A THOUGHT OR A CONCEPT AND THAT'S ALL THEY ARE.
HDR WOULD BE SOMEBODY, IF THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE INTERESTED IN AS A COUNTY AND, AND THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AS A PARTNER, HDR WOULD BE THE ENTITY THAT WOULD STUDY THAT AND SEE IF IT'S A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR AND GIVE US THE FROZEN CONS TO WHETHER WE MADE A MANDATORY, UM, UH, CURBSIDE PICKUP.
SO THAT WOULD, THAT'S WHERE THAT, UM, CONCEPT WOULD BE EVALUATED THROUGH THAT ON-CALL CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH HD R.
WELL, JARED, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD SAYING THAT I WOULD HOPE, WHETHER IT BE THE GIC, THE TOWN OR THE COUNTY COUNCIL OR THE FOLKS IN CHARLOTTE, THAT NOBODY MANDATES ANYTHING TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE REPRESENT.
AND SOMEHOW I HEARD ALONG THE WAY, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS THE GIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, HAVE IT MANDATED.
SO AGAIN, I WANT TO GO ON RECORD SAYING THAT I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GONNA ALLOW GROUPS TO INFLUENCE AND, AND WE GOT TOWN COUNCIL, WE HAVE COUNTY COUNCIL THAT LOOK OUT FOR THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE, WHICH WE'RE ELECTED TO DO.
THERE'S A GROUP I, I SEE THIS CAUSING AN ISSUE WITH.
LET'S TAKE THE BRIDGE FOR EXAMPLE.
I JUST WANNA THROW IT OUT THERE.
YOU GOT A GROUP OF PEOPLE SAYING THERE ARE ABOUT 10 OR 11,000 STRONG SIGNING PETITIONS ABOUT HOW A BRIDGE SHOULD GO OR WHATEVER.
THAT GROUP HAS PROVIDED INPUT.
WE'VE ADOPTED, WE'VE UPDATED AND MODIFIED SOME OF OUR PLANS BECAUSE OF SOME OF THEIR COMMENTS.
UM, I WOULD'VE BLACKENED THIS TO THE FRIENDS OF THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL OR THE FRIENDS OF GARDEN CORNER OR ALL THE DIFFERENT SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE COUNTY.
THEY CAN COME UP AND PRESENT TO COUNCIL OR TOWN COUNCIL AND PROVIDE ANY OF THEIR THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK.
IT'S UP TO THE COUNCILS, WHETHER THEY TAKE THAT FEEDBACK.
IN THIS CASE, THEY ACTUALLY DID BECAUSE IT WAS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE TOWN AND COUNTY BOTH ARE DESIRING TO ACHIEVE.
IF IT WAS SOMETHING WAY OFFLINE, THEY COULD SAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT AND THEN CONTINUE TO WRITE A RESOLUTION THAT HAS NONE OF THEIR COMMENTS IN INCLUDED IN IT.
SO, UH, I WOULDN'T BE OVERLY CONCERNED THAT A GROUP IS HELPING FORM, UH, A RESOLUTION.
UM, JUST THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, ONLY THE ONLY THE COUNCILS CAN, CAN CREATE POLICY OR ADOPT A RESOLUTION.
THE GIC WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE 2018 REFERENDUM TO ADVOCATE FOR HILTON ISLAND RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT THAT REFERENDUM.
WHO'S ON THE GREATER ISLAND COUNCIL? THERE ARE BUSINESS LEADERS, UM, EXECUTIVES OF WIDE VARIETY OF PEOPLE FROM HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND OFF ISLAND.
WHO, AND DO THEY HAVE AN ANNUAL, I MEAN, A MONTHLY MEETING SOMEPLACE THAT THEY DO THEY MEET? THEY DO.
IS IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? UM, OFTENTIMES THEY WILL HAVE GUEST SPEAKERS IN, OFTENTIMES THEY WILL HAVE GUESTS COME IN.
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UM, HAVE BEEN MEETING VIA ZOOM BECAUSE OF COVID.AND THE PLACE WHERE THEY USED TO MEET HAS BEEN RENOVATED, UH, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING IN PERSON.
AND IS THAT ON THE ISLAND? SOME CLAIRE? IT IS.
UH, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO MEET THIS TIME.
COULD I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION THEN? IF IT'S POSSIBLE, COULD I JOIN YOU IN THAT MEETING AGAIN, I'VE HAD AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME AND SAY THEY'RE, THEY'RE UNEASY WITH THE GIC AND I'D LIKE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE ALL ABOUT AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JARED? UH, YEAH.
UM, SINCE, SINCE DAVE IS HERE, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM DAVE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, PARTICULARLY AS IT DEALS WITH THE, UM, THE RECOVERY CENTER, UM, WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.
DAVE WILHAM, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, UM, FOR THE MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY.
WE ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD, UH, SLOWLY.
UNFORTUNATELY, UH, OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO, UH, CITE THE FACILITY AT THE SIMMONS VILLE, UH, CENTER, COMMUNITY CENTER IN BLUFFTON.
IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THAT'S GONNA BE VIABLE.
SO WE'RE CONSIDERING OTHER OPTIONS RIGHT NOW, AND HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO A MONTH WE'LL BE COMING FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
WHAT, WHAT ABOUT, UM, OUR, UM, THE TIMETABLE FOR, FOR US AND THE, UM, CURRENT LANDFILL? THE EXISTING LANDFILL? OUR CONTRACT EXPIRES END OF JUNE, 2025.
UM, THE EXISTING LANDFILL, I BELIEVE HAS, I'VE HEARD ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS, UH, CAPACITY LEFT.
SO WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS.
UM, I BELIEVE WASTE MANAGEMENT MAY BE APPLYING FOR, UM, A LANDFILL EXPANSION.
UH, I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT PERMIT YET.
UH, IN ANY CASE, WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER, UH, OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
WE MAY BE LOOKING AT TRANSFER STATIONS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH JARED AND NEIL AND THE SOLID WASTE GROUP WILL BE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE OPTIONS AND IT HAS TO HAPPEN.
IT HAS TO HAPPEN PRETTY QUICKLY.
CAN WE MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH, UM, NO OBJECTIONS? MM-HMM.
[13. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO REPLACE ASSET-23214, 2008 FREIGHTLINER M2 TRACTOR TRUCK, VIN: 1FUNC5CV68HZ57546 WITH THE DAY-CAB LOW-BOY TRACTOR 2024HX620.]
13, RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO REPLACE ASSET 23,214 A 2008 FREIGHT LINER M TWO TRACTOR TRUCK, UM, WITH A DAY CAB, LOW BOY TRACTOR 2024 HX SIX 20.JARED, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, DID THIS GO OVER THIS ONE? UM, THIS IS $190,000.
SO THIS ONE ONLY NEEDS COMMITTEE APPROVAL.
THIS IS OUR, OUR, UM, TRACTOR TRAILER THAT DRIVES OUR LOW BOY THAT HAULS OUR EQUIPMENT AROUND AT PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, THE, THE ENGINE IS BLOWN TO REPAIR THE ENGINE.
UM, IT WOULD BE LESS COST EFFECTIVE TO DO THAT THAN THAN PURCHASE A NEW ONE.
SO, UM, WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET, THE CURRENT BUDGET, AND THIS WOULD BE THE PURCHASE OF THAT NEW TRACTOR TRAILER TRUCK.
DO WE HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO BEGIN? SO I WILL SECOND A SECOND.
DID WE GET, UM, WE'RE PURCHASING A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
SO DID WE GO TO THREE DIFFERENT PLACES TO GET BIDS OR DO WE, HOW DOES THAT WORK? THIS ONE IS SOURCE, WELL, SO SOURCE WELL IS A, A PRE-BID, UM, STATE APPROVED, COUNTY APPROVED RESOURCE WHERE THEY GO AHEAD AND BID OUT CERTAIN PROJECTS.
A LOT OF PUBLIC WORKS TYPE PROJECTS, UH, EVEN FACILITY MANAGEMENT TYPE PROJECTS, UH, ARE COMPONENTS THAT GOVERNMENTS USE FREQUENTLY.
SO THEY DO THE PRE-BID AND WE SELECT OFF THEIR PRE-VETTED LIST AND THEN MAKE THE PURCHASE ORDER BASED OFF THAT SELECTION.
AND JARED, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHAIR.
UM, I, I SEE ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SPECS OF THE VEHICLE.
UH, WHAT IS THE, DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE FOR THE COST OF REPAIR VERSUS REPLACEMENT COST? I DON'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE, BUT IT'S COST I CAN GET, IT'S SOMETHING OUR FLEET AND PUBLIC WORKS PROBABLY WORKED ON.
AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE TYPICAL LIFESPAN? I, I SAW 70,000, WELL THIS IS 15 YEARS RIGHT HERE.
UM, SO I MEAN, FROM A TRACTOR TRAILER, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY GONNA LAST A LOT LONGER THAN A REGULAR VEHICLE.
UM, I WOULD ESTIMATE 15 TO 20 YEARS IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
IT'S 70,000 MILES OF BREAKING AT 70,000.
SO OUR, OUR, UM, TRUCK DOESN'T GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF MILEAGE AS, AS A TRACTOR TRAILER THAT'S DRIVING EVERY DAY.
UM, BUT IT STILL GETS ENOUGH MILEAGE WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO ROUTINE
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MAINTENANCE ON A PERIODICAL BASIS AND THEN, SO THANKS.CUZ IT'S THE $10,000 DIFFERENCE, BUT MOVE THIS FORWARD.
ANY OBJECTIONS? NO, SEE, NO OBJECTIONS MOVING.
AND YOU SAID JUST, JUST UH, UNDERSTAND WE'RE MOVING IT FORWARD TO COUNSELING FOR CONSIDERATION.
I WOULD JUST BRING IT UP TO COUNSEL.
I BELIEVE WE CAN APPROVE IT HERE TODAY, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK ON IT TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT AREN'T HERE TO LET THEM KNOW, UM, LATER TODAY IF THEY'RE HERE OR AT THE NEXT MEETING.
JUST BECAUSE IT IS SO CLOSE TO THAT THRESHOLD, CUZ WE JUST ADJUSTED THAT SIX MONTHS AGO, ERIC, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
WE'D RE WE'D RECOMMEND THAT YOU JUST DO THAT AS PART OF YOUR LIAISON, UH, COMMITTEE REPORTS AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, ONCE ZERO ONE ONES MOVE THIS FORWARD.
[14. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A STORMWATER PROCUREMENT REQUEST FOR JOHN DEERE, 6110M BUSH HOG WITH BOOM ATTACHMENT (FISCAL IMPACT: $205,026.81)]
14, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF STORMWATER PROCUREMENT REQUEST FOR JOHN DEERE 6 1 1 0 M BUSH HOG WITH BOOM ATTACHMENT.SO THIS SIMILAR IS A REPLACEMENT, UM, EQUIPMENT.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE A TRACTOR WITH A BUSH HOG ATTACHMENT TO THE REAR OF IT.
UM, IT'S ANOTHER OLDER PIECE, ABOUT 14 YEARS OLD.
UH, AND THIS WOULD BE A REPLACEMENT WITH A TRACTOR AND THEN THE SIDE ARM, UH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY MORE EFFICIENT AND WE CAN GET MORE PLACES WITH THAT.
SO IT'S EQUIVALENT REPLACEMENT, BUT JUST AN UPGRADED VERSION.
SO THIS WOULD NEED FULL COUNSEL APPROVAL TO GO TO COUNSEL.
JARED, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND JUST DISCUSS 15 AND 16 AS WELL? WELL, LET'S TAKE ACTION ON 14.
YEAH, THEY'RE, UNLESS THOSE ARE DIFFERENT, THOSE ARE TRANSPORTATION.
UH, DO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? SO MOVE MR. CHAIRMAN.
AND THIS DOES HAVE TO MOVE TO COUNSEL.
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RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO AWARD SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT YEAR SIX REJUVENATOR TO PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGIES.AND IF YOU WANT TO, I THINK 15 AND 16 WOULD MAKE SENSE TO TAKE TOGETHER, ABSOLUTELY RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO AWARD IF FB NUMBER 0 2 1 4 23, YEAR SIX, PRESERVATION TO SLURRY, PAVERS AND CORPORATION.
SO THESE TWO ARE PART OF OUR RESURFACING, UH, OUR SIX FIVE YEAR RESURFACING PLAN.
SO WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE FIRST YEAR OF OUR SECOND PLAN.
IT SAID, THESE ARE THE ROADS THAT YOU NEED TO DO.
WE GAVE 'EM THE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF FUNDING, ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE UTILIZE FROM CTC TO FUND THE PAVEMENT ON THESE ROADS.
UM, AND THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THESE TWO, NEITHER ONE OF THIS IS TYPICAL RESURFACING AS WE KNOW IT AS FAR AS THE TWO MILL AND FILL, UH, TWO INCHES.
THESE ARE SET SAVE OF PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, WHICH, UH, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE MEANS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON GOOD ROADS.
AND THE KEY IN, IN ASPHALT MANAGEMENT IS TAKING THE RIGHT SELECTION AT THE RIGHT ROAD AT THE RIGHT TIME.
SO THE DIFFERENCE IN THESE TWO PRODUCTS, THE REJUVENATOR IS A SPRAY THAT YOU SPRAY ON ON NEW ROADS AND BASICALLY IT, IT PUTS A CHEMICAL, INJECTS A CHEMICAL INTO THE ASPHALT SO THE ASPHALT STAYS FLEXIBLE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
SO IT'S NOT AS HARD AND BRITTLE AND DOESN'T BREAK AS QUICKLY.
SO YOU DO THAT USUALLY THE FIRST YEAR AFTER PAVING ROADS, AND THEN YOU CAN DO IT UP TO YEAR FOUR, YEAR FIVE.
AND THEN, UM, THEN YOU USUALLY MOVE ON TO A DIFFERENT TREATMENT.
THE, THE PRESERVATION SLURRED PAVERS, THIS IS A MICRO SURFACE.
SO THIS IS ABOUT A 3 8 7 INCH APPLICATION.
IT LOOKS BLACK LIKE ASPHALT, BUT IT'S AN EMULSIFIED ASPHALT.
AND WHAT IT DOES, IT SEAL COATS AND PROTECTS.
WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT AGAINST WATER, PENETRATING IT DOWN INTO THE SUBBASE, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET REFLECTIVE CRACKING.
AND THEN YOU START, YOU START LOSING YOUR ASPHALT.
SO THIS IS TYPICALLY ON A THREE TO FIVE YEAR OLD PAVEMENT AFTER IT'S OXIDIZED, BUT IT HASN'T STARTED CRACKING YET.
THERE CAN BE SOME MINOR CRACKS, BUT NOT MAJOR CRACKS THAT IT'LL SEAL UP.
UM, AND THE FACT THAT OUR WHOLE YEAR SIX RESURFACING PROGRAM WAS NOTHING BUT PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUES SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE CONDITION OF OUR ROADS IN BURET COUNTY THAT WE OWN AND OPERATE.
SO THIS'LL HELP EXTEND THE LIFE OF THOSE FOR A LOWER COST.
AND, AND THEN THERE WILL BE OTHERS.
IT'S, IT IS A BIG JUGGLING ACT THAT YOU, YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA MAKE THE WORST ONES WITH POTHOLES OVER HERE WITH A FULL MILL AND FILL, BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO JUGGLE THE, THE GOOD ONES AT THE SAME TIME.
AND HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU SPEND ON BOTH OF THOSE? SO IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THIS IS THE TREATMENT THAT WAS, UH, RECOMMENDED IN OUR REPORT.
SO WE'RE EXERCISING THE REPORT AND THEN YOU HAVE THE COST THERE.
BOTH OF THESE AGAIN, ARE CTC FUNDED.
THEY WERE APPROVED, THE REJUVENATOR WAS APPROVED IN JANUARY.
AND THEN THE, UM, SLURRY PAVERS, THE MICRO SURFACE
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WAS APPROVED IN FEBRUARY BY CTC.MR. CHAIR, DO WE ABSOLUTELY QUESTION? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
CAN WE, LET'S PUT, DO WE NEED A MOTION FIRST FOR NUMBER 15 AND 16? OPEN UP DISCUSSION.
SO FOR, AGAIN, CAN YOU, FOR ANYBODY LISTING, SO I'M SURE THERE'S THOUSANDS, TELL THEM WHAT CTC IS AGAIN.
I I TRY TO REMEMBER TO KNOCK DOWN THESE ACRONYMS. WE HAVE OUR OWN VERNACULAR IN TRANSPORTATION.
SO CTC IS COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
UH, EACH COUNTY HAS A COMMITTEE, UH, OF WHICH GAS TAX FUNDS 3% OR THREE PENNIES OF GAS TAX OUT OF WHAT YOU PAY WHEN YOU FILL UP ARE, UM, TAKEN OUT OF.
RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'RE AT 28 CENTS A GALLON AS OUR FULL GAS TAX THAT GOES TO THE STATE.
OUT OF THAT 3 CENTS GOES TO COUNTY CTCS AND THEY DIVIDE TO HAVE A FORMULA BASED OFF, UM, LAND MASS AND POPULATION AND NUMBER OF RURAL ROAD MILES.
AND THEY DISPERSE THE FUNDS AMONGST THE ALL 46.
WE GET ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TO $3 MILLION PER YEAR BASED OFF THAT FORMULA.
AND THEN OUT OF THAT CTC HAS TO, THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE HAS TO DISTRIBUTE, UM, 33% OF THAT BACK ONTO D O T ROADS.
THE OTHER 67% CAN BE EXPENDED ON ANY OTHER PUBLIC ROADS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND I ATTENDED THEIR RETREATS AND ALL OF THIS WAS EXPLAINED.
IT WAS VERY, VERY WELL EXPLAINED BECAUSE OVER EXPLAINED PROBABLY BE ACCURATE.
BUT BECAUSE WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME ON THIS ITEM 15, THEY'RE A SOLE SOURCE PROVIDER AND SO THEY DON'T, THEY CAN DO THE NON-COMPETITIVE PURCHASE.
15 IS STILL A PROPRIETARY, UM, TREATMENT.
UH, D O T ISN'T QUITE USE IT THAT MUCH.
AND WE, ALONG WITH CHARLESTON COUNTY, HAVE DONE SOME STUDIES IN CORE AND TO SHOW THAT LOOK, IT IS AN EFFECTIVE TREATMENT.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT ON THEIR QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST, BUT, UM, WE'RE KIND OF GETTING AHEAD OF D O T.
THEY'RE USUALLY NOT THE FIRST ONE TO ADOPT A NEW PRODUCT, BUT THIS IS A NEW PRODUCT PROPRIETARY TECHNIQUE THAT WE'VE SEEN GREAT SUCCESS WITH SO FAR.
ANYBODY ELSE QUICKLY? UH, THIS WILL WILL BE USED ON, UM, ALL ROADS INCLUDING D O T AS WELL IN D COUNTY.
SO THE SL THE SLURRY PAVERS WILL BE ON ALL ROADS MICROSURFACES.
UM, RIGHT NOW THE REJUVENATOR IS JUST GONNA BE ON OUR COUNTY ROADS.
ONCE AGAIN, ONCE D OT APPROVES THE PRODUCT, THEN WE COULD USE IT ON THEIR ROADS AS WELL.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THE, I THINK THE, UH, CTC IS ACTUALLY, UM, ON TOP OF THEIR GAME RIGHT NOW.
THERE WE HAVE, I WANT TO PUT ONE OF THE MORE FORWARD THANKING CTCS IN THE STATE.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, BUT I, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THIS.
YEAH, ANNA VERY ACTIVE AND AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE? I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, 16 WHERE IT SAYS ALTERNATIVE FOR ROADWAY HERBICIDE OF 96,000.
SO, SO THERE'S TWO ADD-ONS THAT WE HAVE.
SO THE 92,000, THIS IS A SPRAY UP AGAINST THE CURB THAT KEEPS THE GRASS FROM GROWING UP ALONGSIDE THE CURB AND, AND GETTING TRASH IN THE CURB, AGAIN, IS JUST A MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THAT 90 THICK 6,000, THAT'S AN AD OPTION FOR US.
AND THEN THE 370,000 IS, WE HAVE, UH, SOME ROADS ARE GOING TO NEED SOME FULL DEPTH PATCHING.
WE KNOW THAT WE JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH TILL WE GET OUT THERE AND MARK IT ALL OUT.
SO WE HAVE AN ALLOWANCE FOR THAT AND JUST GENERAL CONTINGENCIES IN THAT 370,000.
SO WE CARRY A 15% CONTINGENCY ON OUR RESURFACING PROJECTS.
SO THE BASE BID PLUS THE ADD-ON AND THE CONTINGENCY IS THE 2.8 MILLION, WHICH IS THE CONTRACT VALUE FOR APPROVAL.
WITHOUT OBJECTION TO GO TO COUNSEL.
SO MOVE, MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION.
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17, OUR FINAL ONE, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED IN THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT OF WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEAR TERM IMPROVEMENTS ON SOUTH CAROLINA ONE 70.DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION IN A SECOND.
JARED, DO YOU WANT TO, THIS IS THE FINAL PIECE, RIGHT? YOU SAID THERE'S ONE OR TWO MORE THINGS WE HAVE TO GET IRONED OUT BEFORE WE CAN START MOVING FORWARD.
SO WE'RE VERY CLOSE ON TAKING ACTION ON THE NEAR TERM PROJECT.
SO THIS IS THE ONLY PIECE OF REAL ESTATE THAT WE NEEDED TO PROCURE.
SO THIS IS A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET FOR ABOUT $7,500.
UH, THIS IS AT OKEE BOULEVARD SOUTH.
WE HAVE A BULL BOUT FOR OUR, OUR CUT OR OUR YES U-TURN, FANCY U-TURN.
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ACQUIRE THIS RIGHT AWAY.UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH D O T AND PUTTING OUR PROJECT TOGETHER WITH THEIR PLANNED PROJECT, WHICH IS RESURFACING THE RAMPS AND ALSO A SECTION OF 2 78 ON TOP OF THE BRIDGE FROM ONE 70 TO THE OKEE RIVER BRIDGE.
SO US PAIRING THAT PROJECT IS, IT'S GREAT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS DONE.
SO I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH D OT TO DO THAT.
THEY HAVE REVIEWED THE PROJECT PLANS, UM, THE PERMIT, WE HAVE THE PERMIT APPROVED BY D O T.
THIS IS THAT SLIVER ON THE BOTTOM.
THE NEW RIGHT OF WAY IS WHAT THIS WOULD BE PURCHASING.
UM, SO WORKING WITH D O T T, THE LAST STEP IN THE PROCESS IS FORMALIZING THE IGA WITH THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE, ARE MANEUVERED.
AND ONCE THAT IS DONE, THAT WOULD BE THE LAST STEP FOR US TO PUT THIS PROJECT OUT TO BID AND START CONSTRUCTION.
SO AS SOON AS WE GET THE LEGALS TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER, UM, AND REALLY IT'S IN DOT'S CORE AT THIS SECOND, BUT AS SOON AS WE GET THAT THUMB THUMBS UP, WE'LL BE READY TO PUT THE PROJECT OUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JARED? WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS PROJECT MIGHT, IF EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT, MIGHT START TO DISRUPT EVERYBODY'S LIFE?
THE, THE PROJECT CONSTRUCTION ISN'T, ISN'T THAT LONG OF CONSTRUCTION.
UM, PROBABLY BY THE TIME WE GET THE FINAL APPROVAL WITH D O T AND THEN PUT IT OUT TO BID AND THEN ISSUE A NOTICE TO PROCEED, WE'RE PROBABLY AT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS WOW.
OUT AND THEN WE EXPECT THE SIX TO EIGHT MONTH CONSTRUCTION TIME, TIME WINDOW.
UM, SO A LOT OF THAT'S GONNA BE RESURFACING ON 2 78 AND BOTH 2 78 AND ONE 70 ARE NIGHTTIME ROADS.
SO CONTRACTORS AREN'T ALLOWED TO PAVE DURING THE DAY.
SO THAT'S A NIGHTTIME PAVING OPERATION.
SO BESIDES ANY, ANY, UH, SHOULDER WORK, MOST OF THE WORK'S GONNA BE PERFORMED AT NIGHTTIME.
THAT'S ONE WAY TO PUT IT THOUGH.
I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR WHAT YOU SAY WHEN THEY GET TO THE BRIDGE.
HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, WHILE I AM NOT GOING TO OPPOSE THIS COUPLE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOUT TO DEL, WE BOULEVARD, WHAT'S THE APPROXIMATE DISTANCE? IT'S, UH, DALE WEBB IS, IS PROBABLY A MILE OR SO DOWN THE ROAD.
IS THAT FARM? THIS IS OKEE BOULEVARD SOUTH.
I THOUGHT IT WAS CLOSER THAT I I THINK IT'S, IT'S CLOSER TOWARDS A MILE THAN IT IS HALF A MILE.
NOW, UM, VISUALIZING THE BULB OUT TRAFFIC GO GOING WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE SCREEN FROM LEFT TO RIGHT.
HOW DOES IT PROCESS? SO OKEE BOULEVARD SOUTH, WHICH IS FOOD LINE ACCESS YES.
IS TO THE RIGHT ON THIS SCREEN.
AND I KNOW THEY, THEY, THEY WILL ONLY BE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT.
SO IF THEY WANT TO HEAD NORTH ON ONE 70, THEY WOULD TAKE A RIGHT OUT, COME TO THIS U-TURN.
UH, AND THIS U-TURN WOULD ALLOW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO, TO MAKE THAT MOVEMENT AND HEAD BACK NORTH.
AND TRAFFIC GOING SOUTH CONTINUES STRAIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY DON'T CURVE DOWN LIKE THAT? NO, NO.
SO IT IS, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE GEOMETRY.
UH, IT'S STILL A STRAIGHT SECTION, TANGENT SECTION.
UH, THE ONLY THING THAT IS AFFECTED IS IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GO NORTH, YOU HAVE TO ENTER INTO THE CENTER TURN LANE AND THEN MAKE THAT MOVEMENT.
ARE YOU USING BULB OUT SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH OUR CUT? YES.
YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO CONFUSE ME.
NO, THE BULB OUT, THE ONLY THING IS THE R CUT IS ACTUALLY THE CUT IN THE MIDDLE.
THE BULB OUT IS TO, TO HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO MAKE IT.
SO IF THIS WAS ALREADY WIDENED OUT, UM, FOR INSTANCE NOT, WE'RE NOT DOING THIS, BUT JUST A FOR INSTANCE ON 2 78, THERE'S ALREADY SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC.
SO IF YOU TRIED TO MAKE THAT MANEUVER, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY EXTRA NEEDED ASPHALT BECAUSE YOU CAN MAKE THAT TURN.
THIS ONE BECAUSE OF WE'RE ONLY AT FOUR LANES.
UM, AND THEY'RE NOT A LOT OF SEPARATION IN BETWEEN.
THIS IS THE EXTRA ASPHALT NEEDED TO MAKE THE MOVEMENT.
MOST MOST VEHICLES, CAR VEHICLES, UH, ARE NOT EVEN REALLY GOING TO NEED THE BULL OUT.
UH, THIS WOULD MOSTLY BE THE TRUCK MANEUVERS.
YEAH, THE R CUTS LOOK LIKE ONE 70 WALMART.
THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE BULL.
THERE'S A BULL OUT CURRENTLY AT THE SIGNAL AT WK AUSTIN, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT.
SO IF YOU'RE COMING OUTTA WALMART, YOU'VE GOTTA TURN RIGHT TO TURN LEFT.
OH YEAH, I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE TURNING FROM.
DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL? NO, LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH COUNSEL WITH NO OBJECTION.
AND THAT CLOSES OUT OUR AGENDA.
BEFORE WE GO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED
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TO TALK ABOUT, AND JARED, I'M PROBABLY GONNA PULL YOU RIGHT BACK UP.SORRY, YOU'RE GONNA BE BUSY TODAY.
WE, WE HAD OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP JUST LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALL TALKED ABOUT AND WE SPENT HOURS ON WAS TALKING ABOUT JARED'S SUPER PENNY AND WHAT THE NEXT IDEA IS.
AND WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WENT FOR THE GREEN SPACE, WE SAID TWO YEARS BECAUSE WE KNEW 2024 IS WHEN WE WERE GONNA BE DISCUSSING BRINGING SOMETHING BACK TO THE PUBLIC.
WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO HANDCUFF OURSELVES.
UM, I'LL BE HONEST, I WAS SURPRISED THE GREEN SPACE PASSED.
I SUPPORTED IT, BUT IT WAS DONE VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
UM, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY SUPPORTED IT JUST BECAUSE THE DESCRIPTION OF GREEN SPACE WITH NOT EVEN KNOWING WHAT THEY WERE VOTING ON.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, WE'RE THERE, WE'RE THE COMMITTEE, OUR FIRST MEETING IS TOMORROW ON THAT TO CONTINUE FORWARD OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THOSE FUNDS AND HOW WE'RE GONNA USE THOSE AND START TACKLING THAT.
BUT TO BE PROACTIVE AND NOT PUT OURSELF IN THAT SAME SITUATION.
I WANTED TO TALK TO JARED ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT NEXT STEPS LOOK LIKE IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND NOT PUT OURSELVES BEHIND AN EIGHT BALL AGAIN, LIKE I, I'D REALISTICALLY LOVE TO SAY WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING AND BRING THIS FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC TO EDUCATE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR IF IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA DO.
CAUSE THEN THAT GIVES US EIGHT TO NINE MONTHS FOR ALL OF US TO GO TO OUR DISTRICTS AND OUR PEOPLE AND THE MUNICIPALITIES GET TIME OUT TO THEM AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO START THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO EQUIP YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND START GETTING, GETTING SOME TYPE OF FEEDBACK AND SO WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING IN A ROOM AND RUNNING OUR MOUTH AND DOING NOTHING.
I THINK FIRST POINT OF CORRECTION IS IT'S NOT JARED'S PENNY.
SUPER PENNY, THIS IS BUFORD COUNTY'S SUPER PENNY
UM, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING FOR US TO TAKE AWAY HERE.
UM, IT'S EASIER TO PUT YOUR NAME ON IT.
THIS IS A BUFORD COUNTY SUPER PENNY.
UM, I JUST HAD THE PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING YOUR WONDERFUL IDEA THAT YOU PRESENTED TO BUFORD COUNTY.
AND WE HAD, IT WAS, WE WORKED ON IT COLLECTIVELY.
SO I WOULD SAY NEXT STEPS, UM, I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT.
WE HAD A GREAT UH, RE RETREAT.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT NOW IS IMPLEMENTATION.
IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE FOR REAL ABOUT WE, WHAT'S OUR NEXT STEPS? I WOULD SAY OUR FIRST STEP IS TO COORDINATE WITH OUR MUNICIPALITY PARTNERS AND FIRST AT A STAFF LEVEL AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THEM, LET THEM HEAR THE CONCEPT, GIVE US INPUT AND GET THEIR BUY-IN.
I THINK THAT'S PRUDENT AND STEP NUMBER ONE, THEY'RE A BIG PARTNER.
THIS IS NOT A BEAUFORT COUNTY PROPER, UH, SUPER PENNY CONCEPT.
THIS IS A BEAUFORT COUNTY REGIONAL CONCEPT.
SO WE NEED ALL THOSE PARTNERS THAT ARE, ARE BOUGHT IN SO THEY TOO CAN EDUCATE THEIR CONSTITUENTS AS WELL.
UH, AFTER WE EDUCATE STAFF, I WOULD SAY THEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL.
SO WE NEED TO GET THE STAFF, UH, INVOLVED IN IT FIRST AND THEN WE CAN BRING IT TO ALL THE COUNCILS.
SO SOME BIT OF A ROADSHOW IN THAT GOING FROM COUNCIL MEETING, THE COUNCIL MEETING, UH, HOPEFULLY MAYBE WE COULD COORDINATE SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO SIX DIFFERENT MEETINGS.
BUT SOMETHING, SOME OF THEM OF THAT SORT.
I WOULD SAY THE NEXT STEP AND WHETHER IT'S SIMULTANEOUSLY ARE, ARE SHORTLY THEREAFTER GETTING STARTED WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES IS ESTABLISHING A TAX OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING WE SET UP LAST TIME, LAST YEAR.
UH, AND THEY PROVIDED RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK IF WE SET IT UP RIGHT, IT COULD BE ONE COMMITTEE THAT'S OVER ALL THREE PENNIES.
UM, AND IT COULD ALSO BE NOT JUST SOMETHING TO HELP US COME UP WITH THE RULES AND PROCEDURES, BUT ALSO THAT COULD BE A OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT STAYS WITH THE PROGRAM AS ANOTHER LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND UH, RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.
SO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE YET, BUT I THINK THAT COMMITTEE, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I KNOW THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE GOING TO HAVE, WELL HOW DO WE SELECT PROJECTS? HOW DO WE DO THIS? HOW DO WE DO THAT? I THINK HAVING A COMMITTEE THAT REPRESENTS THE COUNTY AT WHOLE, AGAIN, NOT SURE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE SPECIFICALLY, BUT A REPRESENTATIVE COMMITTEE, UM, CAN HELP PROVIDE THOSE DETAILS THAT STAFF AND EVEN MUNICIPALITY STAFF AND COUNTY STAFF CAN WORK TOGETHER TO BE THE SOUNDING BOARD OR LIAISON FOR SAID COMMITTEE.
I THINK THOSE TWO THINGS ARE PROBABLY, PROBABLY OUR NEXT STEPS AND CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AND AS YOU MENTIONED, HAVING SOMETHING READY BY THE END OF THE YEAR YEAR, I THINK THAT'S A FEASIBLE TIMELINE THAT WE COULD HAVE THE, THE CONCEPT AND THE PROGRAM ESTABLISHED.
SO IT'S AT A POINT THAT WE CAN GO AND EDUCATE OTHERS AT THAT POINT.
BUT UH, THEN YOU HAVE A FULL EIGHT OR NINE OR 11 MONTHS TO, TO GET THE WORD OUT AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT A PENNY, UH, OUR SUPER PENNY COMPLEX WOULD, WOULD DO.
SO, SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHTS.
WELL, SAME HOLD, UH, LET ME, BUT WE, WE NEED TO
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BE CAREFUL ABOUT DISCUSSING THIS.THIS IS AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON OUR PUBLISHED AGENDA, SO WE NEED TO, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL, BUT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO MOVE THIS THROUGH VERY QUICKLY.
THEN THAT LEADS ME TO MY QUESTION.
I'LL SAY, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TODAY TO TAKE THAT STEP TO OPEN UP THAT LINE OF, I THINK WE NEED TO BRING IT TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING TO GET A SAID STEP, WHETHER THAT'S A RESOLUTION OR A ACTION OR A, UH, AGENDA ITEM TO, TO ACT THEM.
I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT OPENLY IN FRONT OF ALL OF US.
SO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERST IT IS HONESTLY UNDERSTAND TRANSPARENT AND UPFRONT.
SO IF WE COULD ADD THAT TO THE NEXT AGENDA TO GIVE WHATEVER DIRECTION WE NEED TO GIVE YOU THE RESOURCES YOU NEED AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS FROM THERE.
UM, I, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING, RAISING THIS SUBJECT, UM, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH.
UH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO IN THE FUTURE IS JUST ADD THE LITTLE CHAIRMAN BRIEFING OR SOME SORT TO THE BOTTOM THE AGENDA SO THAT YOU CAN BRING UP STUFF.
I NEED THE CRITICISM, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S ALWAYS HEALTHY CRITICIZE.
I NEED THE TOOLS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH YOU.
UM, ARE THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT THE MEETING? NO, WE'RE ADJOURNED.