7. CITIZEN COMMENTS - (ANYONE who wishes to speak during the Citizen Comment portion of the meeting will limit their comments to no longer than three (3) minutes ( a total of 15 minutes ) and will address Council in a respectful manner appropriate to the decorum of the meeting, refraining from the use of profane, abusive, or obscene language) (Part 1 of 2)

[7. CITIZEN COMMENTS - (ANYONE who wishes to speak during the Citizen Comment portion of the meeting will limit their comments to no longer than three (3) minutes ( a total of 15 minutes ) and will address Council in a respectful manner appropriate to the decorum of the meeting, refraining from the use of profane, abusive, or obscene language) (Part 1 of 2)]

CHAIRMAN. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. WE ARE IN OUR FIRST CITIZENS COMMENT WHICH IS A 15 MINUTE PERIOD IN WHICH ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE CAN ADDRESS COUNTY COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION AND I DO HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE AGENDA ITEMS. I WILL CALL YOU ONE AT A TIME. PLEASE ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN GENERAL YOU WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES FOR YOUR PARTICULAR PRESENTATION.

THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL IS MEG JAMES WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEMS TWO AND 12.

THEY ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA . THEY ARE.

I'M MIKE JAMES. I AM EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE LOCAL HOMEBUILDERS ASSOCIATION.

WE REPRESENT ALL HAMPTON AND JASPER COUNTIES AS WELL AS OVER 500 BUILDING INDUSTRY PROFESSIONAL FIRMS AND I'M HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE TWO ITEMS OFF OF YOUR CONSENT AGENDA FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND CLARIFICATION. THE FIRST IS NUMBERED ITEM NUMBER 12 IT'S SECOND READING ON IMPACT FEES. I SIMPLY THAT YOU CONFIRM WITH COUNTY STAFF THAT ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE IN FACT SIGNED THEIR IGAS.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING NEITHER THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON NOR THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD HAVE AND WHILE WE DON'T TAKE ISSUE WITH THE FEE SCHEDULES I WOULD JUST BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE IF IT'S PASSED WITHOUT THE IGAS IN PLACE, WOULD THERE BE CONFUSION AS TO WHO'S GOING TO ASSESS THE FEES IN BLUFFTON AND HILTON HEAD AND WHERE THEY PAY THEM AND THAT PROLONGING THE PERMIT PROCESS? SO JUST A CLARIFICATION THERE THE SECOND IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO IT'S A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 5.1 1.90 D PENALTY FOR CLEAR CUTTING.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND RELATE TO THE REASONING BEHIND IT. I SIMPLY AGAIN ASK YOU TO CONFIRM WITH STAFF THAT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN DOESN'T ANY UNNECESSARY BURDEN TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY AND LAW OWNERS. I THINK THAT THERE'S JUST STILL

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SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE LANGUAGE WITH THE 25% OF ANY GIVEN PARCEL VERSUS FIVE ACRES I'VE HAD GREAT WITH ERIC AND MARK AND I THINK THAT I GET IT BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S JUST STILL SOME CONFUSION SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE LANGUAGE IS CLEAR.

I APPRECIATE Y'ALL DOING. FINALLY I AM EAGER TO BE HELPFUL AND ACT AS A LIAISON BETWEEN INDUSTRY EXPERTS AND COUNTY STAFF TO ASSIST IN THE WRITING OF ORDINANCES TO MAKE SURE IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN CONFIDENTLY APPROVE OF ON BEHALF OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

I KNOW OFTEN YOU AS LEADERS FIND YOUR HANDS TIED BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP AND I BELIEVE IT IS YOUR DESIRE TO DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO SET FUTURE LEADERSHIP UP FOR SUCCESS. I SIMPLY WANT TO BE HELPFUL AND A PART OF THE CONVERSATION ASSIST YOU IN THESE EFFORTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THE NEXT INDIVIDUAL IS ALAN PATTERSON. YOU WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES, MR. PATTERSON.

ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

I'M GOING TO ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER TWO THE TEXT OF THE AMENDMENT FOR CLEAR CUTTING.

I UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE THE TREE ORDINANCE AND WHY WE'RE THIS.

I AM APPALLED WHEN I SEE PEOPLE CLEAR CUT LAND AND TRY TO PLAY THIS SYSTEM AND I HAVE FOUGHT FOR TREES AND DEVELOPMENT HERE FOR YEARS YEARS AND BEEN INVOLVED WITH TREE ORDINANCES ON LADY'S ISLAND. I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY THE ON IT'S A LITTLE BIT AND I MEAN THIS CLEAR CUT AN ORDINANCE SO WE CAN CLEAR THE LOTS AND OUR BUFFERS AND GET OUR SEPTIC TANK PERMITS I'M A BUILDER, I'M A DEVELOPER.

I HAVE A DIRT PIT. I HAD TO GET A MINING PERMIT TOOK YEARS I HAD TO GO TO ARMY CORPS ENGINEER I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

I'M GOOD WITH IT FROM PROTECTING WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN BUT WE DON'T WANT TO PUT BARRIERS IN OF HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENTS AND WHEN I GO TO BUILD SOMEBODY A HOUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SAY WELL IT'LL BE TWO YEARS. WE GOT TO GET A FORESTER IN HERE. I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AMENDMENT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TO CORRECT AND NOT HAVE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE SOMETIMES WE HAVE HAD WHEN WE PUSH THESE THINGS THROUGH AND ASK COUNCIL TO HERE AND LOOK AT IT AND LIKE YOUR QUESTIONS AT THE OTHER MEETING AND STUFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT HURTING PEOPLE THAT OWNS SOME LAND AND WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE ON IT AND COST US THE BUILDERS AND HOMEOWNERS EXTRA MONEY AND THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT 25% OF CLEARED PROPERTY IS BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU ALL DIG INTO IT AND A MOMENT TO REVIEW IT THAT WE CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT AND CLARIFY SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS OLIVER NOT THE NEW WALTER.

ALL OF THEM FROM GRACE. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF. THE PEOPLE KNOW WHO I'M TALKING . I'VE BEEN ON VIEW FOR 36 YEARS. I'VE BEEN BUSH HAGEN ON STORY FOR 33 OF THEM 36 YEARS AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT AGENDA TWO ALSO WITH THE WORDING OF IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ON THE SIZE TREES THAT WE CAN CUT IN, THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE CUT AND HOW THAT HOW THAT GETS CONFUSION IS IT CHANGES. SO IF YOU READ IT ONE WAY AND IT SAYS DOESN'T APPLY TO THE HOMEOWNER ANYBODY BELOW FIVE ACRES.

EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH THAT. BUT AS SOON AS SOMEBODY SAYS THEY WANT TO PUT A A SEPTIC TANK PERMIT ON THEIR PROPERTY, IT CHANGES IT TO NOW THEY HAVE TO SELL IT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND WHEN THEY FALL THE DEVELOPMENT IT OPENS UP A WHOLE DIFFERENT SCENARIO THEM.

THEY HAVE TO GET A TREE AND TOPO THEY HAVE TO GET A SURVEY. THEY HAVE TO GET DESIGN PLAN WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY SO ZONING CAN GIVE THEM A PERMIT HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND FOR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT RECEIVED THE PIECE OF PROPERTY WHERE BOUGHT IT THEY INHERITED IT AND IT COULD BE JUST A SMALL LOT AND.

THAT'S THE MOST VALUABLE THING THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR LIFE IS THAT LOT THAT'S PRIZED POSSESSION. THAT LOT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING IF THEY CAN'T GET A DEAL FROM IT FOR A SEPTIC TANK. ONCE THEY GET THAT PERMIT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP IT. IT JUST PUTS A STAR ON THE PAPER THAT SAYS THAT THAT LAW IS VALUE TO THEM AT THAT POINT IF THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THAT LAW THEN THEY CAN TAKE IT AT THAT POINT GO TO ZONING AND FOLLOW ALL THE STEPS FOR ZONING PERMIT PRIOR TO THAT.

ALL IT IS IS SAYING THAT THIS LOT IS WHAT DO DOING IT DO DILIGENCE TO SELL THAT LOT IF SOMEBODY IS BUYING THAT LAW TO SAY THIS LOT PASSES DEAC AND NOW DEAC REQUIRES TO GET UNDERBRUSH SO THEIR REQUIREMENTS IF YOU LOOK UP THE ORDER SAYS WE NEED 150 FEET BY 150 FEET AN EXIT AND EXIT TO GET INTO THAT PLACE. THAT'S WHAT THEY REQUIRE.

IT SOUNDS PRETTY SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD IN COURT BUT WHEN DEAC IS ABOUT THREE MONTHS OUT FOR THEM TO CHECK FOR THAT SOMETIMES THAN THAT WHEN THEY MAKE IT OUT TO A PROPERTY THEY'LL GET ONTO THE PROPERTY TEST THAT 150 FOOT FIRST SEPTIC TANK PERMIT WHERE THEY PROPOSE THE HOMEOWNER WANTS IT THEY SAID YOU KNOW WHERE THE SOIL IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH HERE THE SAYS

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WHAT ABOUT RIGHT THERE IN THAT CORNER OF THAT LOT THERE? THEY SAY YOU CLEAR THAT LAW AND WE'LL COME BACK IN THREE MONTHS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW BOOKED UP WE ARE.

SO IT DELAYS THE PROCESS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GETTING THE SEPTIC TANK PERMIT ON YOUR PROPERTY REQUIRES YOU TO GET A ZONING PERMIT OR PUT YOU IN A DEVELOPMENT POSITION. ACCEPTED HIS PERMIT DOES NOT MEAN YOU'RE DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY ALL IT IS IS JUST CERTIFYING THAT THE I KNEW I'D GET BIASED BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT I HAVE TO SAY. I HAVE 33 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. I'M A RETIRED MARINE WITH 22 YEARS I'M WILLING TO OPEN MYSELF UP TO THE COUNCIL ANY TIME WE'LL SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE. BUT WE'RE HURTING WE'RE HURTING THE INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T HAVE MONEY AND SOME OF THESE LAWS THAT WERE PASSED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LYNN GREELY. I HAVE A LIMITED POWER OF ATTORNEY AND I WANT TO GIVE MY 3 MINUTES. KNOW WE DO NOT ACCEPT POWER OF ATTORNEY. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS US, YOU MAY ADDRESS US.

IF MR. HOAGLAND WANTS TO ADDRESS US ABOUT A SPECIFIC ITEM ON THE AGENDA, HE MAY FORWARD. IF NOT WHEN WHEN YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD MR. HOAGLAND AT THE SECOND ONE TO ADDRESS US ON ANOTHER GENDER ITEM. THAT'S FINE TO.

IT'S A POWER OF ATTORNEY. IF YOU CAN SHOW ME A LAW THAT THINKS ABOUT RETURNING ILLEGAL PERVERTED. GIVE ME HER 3 MINUTES. SHOW IT TO ME AND I'LL SIT DOWN. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PLEASE SIT DOWN HER SPEECH AND NOT ME AND MY SPEECH AND I WANT TO MAKE UP AN AGENDA SPEECH SO I WANT TO MAKE THREE SPEECHES SO IF IT LET'S ASSUME THAT YOU CAN GIVE A POWER OF ATTORNEY FOR SOMEBODY TO GET MAD DRIVERS YOU OUT WHY YOUR ATTORNEY YOUR POWER OF ATTORNEY NOW I WANT TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE LOOK MY I CAN THESE ARE MY RULES NOT. YOUR RULES.

THE JUDGE OF THE JURY. YES, I AM. YOU'RE A HOT DRY ELECTED OFFICIAL TO SERVE ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM. HOW DARE VIOLATE A POWER OF ATTORNEY. DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK COUNSEL ABOUT AN AGENDA ITEM I'M GOING TO MAKE I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS WOMAN'S SPEECH AND I WON'T MAKE MY SPEECH YET IF YOU CAN SHOW ME WHAT WHAT ITEM DO YOU WISH TO TALK ABOUT? I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER 12 AND NUMBER 13 AND THEN I'M GOING TO MAKE A JOKE. YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

NO, I'M GOING TO MAKE HER SPEECH. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE HAS BEEN 3 MINUTES TO DO YOU UNDERSTAND HER SPEECH TO MAKE MY SPEECH I DON'T CARE WHOSE YOU'RE MAKING I'M GOING TO HAVE HER MINUTES AND THEN I'M GOING TO MAKE MY SPEECH WHEN I HAVE SPEECHES TO MAKE RIGHT NOW ON AGENDA YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES TO DO IT.

NO, I HAVE 6 MINUTES. NO, YOU DON'T. YES, I DO.

NO, YOU DON'T. YOU SHOW ME A LAW THAT SAYS I CAN HOUR AGENDA.

YOU'RE NOT THE JUDGE. THE JUDGE, I DON'T CARE WHAT LISTEN.

I DON'T CARE HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN FOR 50 YEARS. I WILL REC . YES WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

IS THERE A MEMBER OF COUNCIL WHO WISHES TO YES, MA'AM. MAY I HAVE MY 3 MINUTES THEN? IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LET ME YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK AND THEN THERE'S 3 MINUTES LEFT IN THE PUBLIC SESSION. YOU'RE SPEAKING ON WHICH AGENDA ITEM THE ATTACKS THE IRS 501C WHICH AGENDA ITEM IS THAT? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AGENDA ITEM WASN'T PUT IN THAT 1212 AND 13 I THINK TEN 1212 OKAY GO AHEAD. OKAY YEAH 3 MINUTES.

WHAT IS AN IRS 501C CHAMBER ORGANIZATION. IT IS A BUSINESS ORGANIZED TO PROMOTE BUSINESS MEMBERS ONLY AND NOT A BUSINESS LIKE A DMO DESTINATION MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION. IF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS IT CAN'T MAKE A PROFIT FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CHAMBER NO PAY FOR PLAY, NO FAVORITISM OR CO-MINGLE LAUNDRY TAX FUNDS FROM ELICIT ADVERTISING PROFITS THEN THEM UNDER THE HIGH SALARIES AND BENEFITS TO CHAMBER EMPLOYEES TO SHOW NO ON YEAR END TAX RETURNS. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR BILL MILES TO PAY HIMSELF $500,000 PLUS PER YEAR FROM A LEGALLY OPERATED CHAMBER A 2 MILLION HOME ON HILTON HEAD. THIS DISQUALIFIES THE CHAMBER AS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION EXEMPT FROM PAYING TAXES THEY CANNOT BE IN ANY BUSINESS WHATSOEVER NORMALLY CARRIED BY A FOR PROFIT TAX PAYING COMPANY OR. THEY LOSE THEIR NONPROFIT STATUS AND MUST PAY THE IRS. IRS UVI T UNRELATED BUSINESS INCOME TAX OR BE CONSIDERED A TAX DEFAULT AND FORCED TO PAY ALL THEIR OWN IF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IS DISCOVERED ARREST AND CONVICTIONS WOULD SURELY PALM BEACH A TAX DILEMMA DMO RESULTED PRISON THE IRS DEFINES

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A BUSINESS LEG AS AN ASSOCIATION OF PEOPLE WITH A SHARED BUSINESS INTEREST.

THE LEAGUE MUST PROMOTE COMMON INTEREST OF THE MEMBERS MUST NOT BE IN THE BUSINESS FOR PROFIT, MUST NOT PROVIDE SERVICES OR INDIVIDUALS THE WAY PROFIT BUSINESS DOES OR USE HIGH PERKS, BENEFITS, LAVISH ENTERTAINMENT, BONUSES ETC. TO HIDE ILLICIT PROFITS CHAMBERS OR COMMERCE PROMOTE THE ECONOMIC INTEREST OF JUST BUSINESS MEMBERS IN A GIVEN AREA AS CITIES LIKE HILTON HEAD BEAUFORT, BLUFFTON, CHARLESTON, MYRTLE BEACH ETC. FACT IS HILTON HEAD CHAMBER IS AN ILLEGAL OPERATION OPERATING AS A FOR PROFIT DISGUISED AS A NONPROFIT TO TRICK THE IRS AND OUR COMMUNITY AND TAX EXEMPT CHAMBER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE IRS C SIX CATEGORY HAVE TO MAKE INFORMATION PUBLIC THIS INCLUDES ITS LAST THREE TAX RETURNS PUBLIC IF ASKED FOR COPIES CHAMBER GROUP HAS TO PROVIDE THEM FREE IF TAX FUNDED THIS DETAILED USE OF TAX MONEY MUST BE PROVIDED TO TAXPAYERS AS WELL AS TO COUNSEL WHO ISSUES THESE TAXES AND SUBJECT TO THE TAXPAYER FOR. YOU LAWS IN ANY STATE AGENCY DOES NOT COMPLY TO THE TAXPAYER FOR YOU IT COULD IN LITIGATION AND PAYING THE TAXPAYERS LEGAL FEES HILTON HEAD BEAUFORT COUNSELS ARE IN FOR YOUR VIOLATION AND MUST COMPLY OKAY

[8. LIASION AND COMMITTEE REPORTS]

THAT ENDS THE CITIZEN COMMENTS WE ARE AT THE COMMITTEE REPORTS IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES MAKE A REPORT AT THIS TIME MR. CHAIRMAN IF OKAY I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD MR. REEVES.

LAST WEEK THURSDAY THERE WAS A MEETING I'M ON THE AIRPORT BOARD AND YOU COULD EXECUTIVE AIRPORT KNOWN AS FROGMORE COMPLETELY RENOVATED INSIDE AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE END OF APRIL HAVING A CHAMBER EVENT OPEN HOUSE WITH A RIBBON CUTTING AND THEY'RE GOING TO INVITE US AND LIKE THE PUBLIC TO BE THERE AS WELL. THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR HISTORY THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THE ST PATRICK'S DAY PARADE OF THE AIRPORT, WHATEVER THAT'S GOING TO BE THE TERMINAL UPDATE ON THE CONSTRUCTION THE EARLY PART OF THE FIRST PART OF MARCH THAT TO PUT A BIT OUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE ABOUT SIX WEEKS TO GET ALL THAT BACK AND THEN THEY'LL DECIDE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO START RECONSTRUCTION THERE.

THE AIRPORT BOARD RIGHT NOW HAS TWO VACANCIES AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY.

SO IF YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE PEOPLE LISTENING AS WELL, IF YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH BEING A PILOT OR ANYTHING, CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE. APPLY FOR A POSITION THERE, MR. CHAIRMAN. THAT'S IT THANK YOU. ANY OTHER MEMBER JUST ATTENDED THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE RETREAT WHICH IS A THREE HOUR RETREAT.

IT WAS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ME IT WAS VERY AND AS JIM GIRARD SPOKE TO US IN THE LAST SESSION THEY'RE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE ON THEIR COMMITTEE VERY DEDICATED AND THEY HAD AC DOTTIE THERE TO DO A PROJECT REVIEW AND TWO OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA COME FROM THAT RETREAT I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT ROAD TREATMENT, ROAD PRESERVATION MORE THAN I EVER KNEW BUT IT'S VERY WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY MILES OF ROADS CAN'T REMEMBER BUT THIS IS A BIG INVESTMENT IN OUR COUNTY SO THAT WAS LAST WEDNESDAY AND THE OTHERS.

MR.. LARSON YES, FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WE HAVE A THIRD READING FOR OBLIGATION BONDS FOR A BLUFFTON FIRE.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE APPOINTMENTS OF FOLKS. WE ALSO HAVE THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A TAX AMENDMENT TO BE FOR COUNTY CODE .

AND MR. JAMES, WE WILL GET YOU THOSE ANSWERS REGARDING THE THE THE THE WITH THE TOWNS AND CITIES BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING THIS THE SECOND READING. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE SECOND READING AN ORDINANCE COUNTY MINISTRY TO EXECUTE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO A GRANT PERPETUAL EASEMENT FOR PUBLIC USE AND I WANT TO FIRST SAY THAT I SHOULD HAVE POLLED NUMBER TWO FROM THE AGENDA WHICH I DID NOT IT'S TOO LATE NOW TO PULL THAT IT WAS GOING TO PASS AS A CONSENT AGENDA. HOWEVER I ALSO WANT TO GET INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. I'VE TALKED TO STEVE ANDREWS FROM ANDREW SURVEYING AND ALSO THIS GENTLEMAN HERE REGARDING THE THE BUSH LOGGING TO SEE WHAT THOSE ISSUES ARE TO SEE WHY THERE IS CONCERN AND THAT HAS ALL BEEN SPELLED OUT AND IF NOT WILL THEN HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER TEXT AMENDMENT TO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IF NECESSARY BECAUSE AGAIN IT WENT THROUGH COMMITTEE THEN THREE READINGS TO THIS VERY THOROUGH READING BEFORE SOME OF THESE ISSUES CAME OUT. SO AGAIN WE'LL BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO FINDING OUT IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT THAT IS EITHER JUST MISINFORMATION OR THINGS THAT WE STILL NEED TO ADDRESS. CHAIRMAN QUESTIONS YES. IF WE HAD A SUPERMAJORITY COULD

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WE POSTPONED THAT CONSENT AND AGENDA ITEM TO OUR NEXT COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING? NO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DEFEAT THE CONSENT AGENDA TO DO THAT. THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ALL OF THOSE ITEMS WE WOULD RECOMMEND FOR YOU ALL TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET THE CONSENT AGENDA . LET STAFF EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THE REAL ISSUES ARE. THE ORDINANCE IN QUESTION NOT ADDRESS BUSH HOG AND IF PEOPLE ARE BUSH HOG IN THEIR PROPERTY THIS ORDINANCE NOT REGULATE THAT IF THEY ARE REMOVING TREES FROM A PIECE OF PROPERTY THE ORDINANCE WILL REGULATE THAT THE ORDINANCE HAS ALWAYS REGULATED AND WILL CONTINUE TO REGULATE THAT. SO IT'S CLARIFICATION OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY THE ORDINANCE. YES. OKAY.

[9. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]

I SEE NO ACTION. WE ARE NOW AT THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I WOULD ASK A MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA BASED UPON THE INFORMATION THAT YOU JUST HEARD WITHOUT THAT WAS MY SAYING SAME CONCERN I THOUGHT BE ABLE TO REMOVE IT AT THE CONSENT AGENDA PORTION FOR TWO REMOVING THAT. BUT LIKE I SAID AS LONG AS WE'RE GETTING CLARIFICATION AND EXPLAINING TO EVERYBODY WHAT'S GOING ON I THINK WE'LL BE OKAY WITH. I KNOW THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ON THAT AND SPOKE TO SEVERAL PEOPLE ABOUT IT BUT I'M NUMBER TWO YEAH. SO BASICALLY BOILS DOWN TO THE DEFINITION OF UNDERBRUSH AND WHAT CONSTITUTES THAT. I GET THE ITEM ABOUT THE DIMOCK WAS THE SEPTIC TANK PERMIT FULLY UNDERSTAND BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND CLEAR BEACH PROPERTY AND REMOVE TREES ALL THE OR NOT SIMPLY REQUIRE SOMEONE TO DO IS NOT ONLY TALK TO DIMOCK WHICH IS A STATE AGENCY THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT LOCAL TREE ORDINANCES OR ANYTHING. THEY ARE JUST GOING TO GIVE PEOPLE THE PROCEDURES THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO GO OUT AND DO THE PROPER TEST ON THE BEACH PROPERTY GET INTO THE PROPERTY IF TREES ARE GOING TO BE CUT DOWN OF ANY SIZE, SHAPE OR FORM FOR FOLKS THEN ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL THE PLANNING ZONING DEPARTMENT AND SAY THIS IS WHAT I'M DOING. DO I NEED A PERMIT TO DO THIS WORK? AND IF THEY'RE TOLD YES THEN THEY SHOULD COME AND GET A PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT TO SHOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLEARING SO WE CAN MAKE SURE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS SAKE THAT THE DOING THE WORK IS NOT GOING TO PUT THAT PROPERTY OWNER IN JEOPARDY. THEY MIGHT BE COMING HERE FROM OUT OF STATE AND I'VE DEALT WITH THIS AS A PLANNING DIRECTOR ON THREE OR FOUR OCCASIONS WHEN I WAS A PLANNING DIRECTOR AT PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUT OF STATE THEY HIRE A LOCAL GUY OR SOMEONE FROM JASPER COUNTY TO GO OUT AND DO THE WORK ON THEIR PROPERTY. THAT PERSON GOES TOO FAR AND THEN THEY GET HERE WITH SOMETHING A PLANNING A STAFF MEMBER OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TELLING YOU CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING ON YOUR PROPERTY FOR TWO, THREE, FIVE YEARS.

YOU CAN'T BUILD YOUR DREAM HOUSE AND THEY PROBABLY THEIR HOUSE WHERE THEY'RE FROM AND TRYING TO GET HERE QUICKLY. SO THAT'S SIMPLY WHAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES.

WE'RE NOT REGULATING BUSH HOGAN WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT BUSH HAGEN UNLESS THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GRIND UP THE SOIL AND EXPOSE THE DIRT AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO KICK IN POTENTIAL STORMWATER REGULATIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT CANNOT HELP ON STABILIZED SOLD ON THE BEACH PROPERTY FOR ANY REASON IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA SO THAT'S BASICALLY IT AS CHAIRMAN. JUST ONE MORE QUESTION STEMMING FROM THAT AS FAR AS THE EQUIPMENT USED ON THOSE PARTICULAR SITES, IS THERE A SEPARATE ORDINANCE THAT GOVERNS THAT? NO, I MEAN SOME CONFUSION. THERE IS THERE IS NO ORDINANCE THAT WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT YOU CAN USE, YOU KNOW, IF FOLKS ARE GOING OUT AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE FOLKS SOME OF THE BOBCATS HAVE A FRONT END RUSH ON IT THAT JUST GRINDS UP UNDERBRUSH BUSHES, THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S NOT A VIOLATION OF THE IF THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A BULLDOZER IN THERE OR A STOMP GRINDER OR A MACHINE THAT'S GOING TO CUT THE TREES OFF AT THE BASE AND THEN LAY THEM OVER AND GRIND UP THE STUMPS DOWN TO THE GROUND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A VIOLATION THAT REQUIRES A PERMIT, RIGHT? IS THAT YEAH. YES. OKAY.

SO 88 INCHES IN BLOW, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

I'M DOWN HERE. YEAH AND THEY YEAH BUILD A HOUSE THERE AND WE'RE LIKE WE'RE GOOD WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. CLARIFICATION PAGE TWO THAT IS OKAY. YOU GOT CLARIFICATION THAT? CLARIFICATION YOU CAN SEE ME OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING WE WILL CLARIFY ON YOUR OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU MISTER. ALL RIGHT, SO I NEED A MOTION IN SECOND IS MOTION ALREADY NO AS WELL. YEAH. LET ME JUST ASK A QUICK

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QUESTION MR. GREENLEE AND MR. MERCHANT THERE IS A THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE AND THE PROCESS FOR ME PUTTING UP THE MY HOUSE IS THE ORDINANCE THE PROCESS TO TAKE PLACE WHICH WOULD INCLUDE WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH WITH AND AND AND ME TRYING TO GET A HOUSE PUT.

OKAY WELL ONE THING I JUST WANTED THERE FOR ME OKAY ONE THING I WANT TO CLEAR UP AND LET ME MAKE SURE I SEE THIS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UNDERBRUSH IN AN AREA SO THEY CAN COME IN AND TEST THE SOIL. YEAH OKAY. AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE THE DEED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BECAUSE WHAT I SEE THIS HERE IS REALLY FOR CIVIL CULTURE ORDINANCE PROTECTING FORESTRY AND IF A LAND OWNER WANTS TO CONTINUE CIVIL CULTURE THEY CAN DO CLEAR CUTTING. THEY CAN DO WHATEVER IN HARVESTING THEIR TIMBER BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DEVELOP THEM THIS IS THAT THIS ORDINANCE PROTECTS THAT FROM HAPPENING OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. I I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON BUT AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC AND FAR AS I AM CONCERNED I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CAN BUILD MY HOUSE AND MAKING SURE THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE WILL ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN WITH NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CONFUSION. SO IF YOU COULD WALK THROUGH THAT FOR ME, I SURE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION WE HAVE TWO SECTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE THAT DEAL WITH CLEAR CUTTING PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT THIS SPECIFICALLY APPLIES TO LOTS THAT ARE FIVE ACRES OR GREATER SO IT'S ALREADY TARGETED TO BE GEARED TOWARDS FORESTRY AND SILVER CULTURE.

WE HAVE ANOTHER SECTION OF THE CODE THAT DEALS WITH REMOVAL OF TREES PRIOR TO DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT A PERMIT THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE AMENDING THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE ALREADY AND NONE OF NEITHER THIS NOR THAT REGULATE PUSH HIKING SO IN ORDER TO UNDERBRUSH SO THE DEER CAN COME OUT TEST THE SOIL THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS ORDINANCE REGULATES SO IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT REMOVING TREES GREATER THAN EIGHT INCH CALIPER A GREATER OKAY. SO YES, BUT AGAIN JUST TO CLARIFY MERCHANT SO THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS LEAVING EVERYTHING THE SAME EXCEPT FOR THIS APPLIES TO PARCELS THAT ARE FIVE ACRES OR GREATER YES AND THEN EVEN AT THE END WHEN IT SAYS IF UM LET ME SEE FOR PURPOSES SECTION OR IF LESS THAN 25% SO EVERYTHING IS LESS FIVE ACRES STILL UNDER THE OLD EXISTING CODE THERE'S NO CHANGES TO ANYTHING THAT'S LESS THAN FIVE ACRES.

THAT'S CORRECT. CORRECT THAT 5% WOULD BE 25% OF A FIVE ACRE OR GREATER PARCEL THAT'S 25%. SO SO AGAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE JUST ADDING THIS WHICH GIVES US MORE WHEN IT COMES TO PARCELS THAT ARE FIVE ACRES AND LARGER RIGHT AND ALL THE THE BUSH LOGGING AND THOSE THINGS ARE STILL EXACTLY THE SAME AS THEY WERE BEFORE THIS ORDINANCE WENT INTO EFFECT. THERE'S NO NO CHANGE IN ORDINANCE NOR POLICY REGARDING BUSH LOGGING OKAY. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND STRENGTHENING FOR PURPOSES, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR SILVER CULTURE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN LOCALLY. THAT'S WHAT THESE AMENDMENTS ARE DESIGNED TO DO.

OKAY, SO GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST SO THAT MEANS THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN COUNTY VERY FEW WERE OVER FIVE ACRES. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GRAND SCHEME, THE PROPERTIES THIS ORDINANCE AFFECTS THEM ZERO. NO YOU'RE CORRECT.

IT WAS OF OUR EVERYDAY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND COUNTY.

THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THEIR ORDINANCES WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED AND ALLOWED TO DO ON THAT PROPERTY CORRECT. SO FOR FOR PUBLIC CLARIFICATION THEN IF I HAVE SAY A HALF ACRE OR ACRE OF LAND AND I WANT TO BUILD A HOME ON THERE AND, I GOT TO GET THE PARK, I GOT TO GET THE PROPERTY PARK FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN GIVE ME A PERMIT TO BUILD A HOME.

SO THE FIRST FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO CONTACT THE COUNTY AND GET A ZONING PERMIT IS THAT CORRECT? YOU CAN DO UNDER BRUSHING ON THE PROPERTY THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT YOU FROM UNDER BRUSHING THE PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR IN THE RIVER BUT FOR THAT SO THAT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THING BUT YOU COULD UNDERBRUSH YOUR PROPERTY TO

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IDENTIFY THE AREA OF YOU KNOW WHERE YOU KNOW WHERE THE SEPTIC TANK AND DRAIN FIELD COULD BE LOCATED. ALL RIGHT. SO IF I GOT A HALF ACRE AND I WANT TO UNDERBRUSH IT TO PUT A SEPTIC ON THEN CAN I CAN I UNDERBRUSH THE WHOLE HALF ACRE I WHAT PERCENTAGE CAN I CAN I ENTIRE HALF ACRE OKAY. YEAH THIS IS ALL AND AS LONG AS ALL EIGHT INCHES ON THE YEAH AS LONG AS THE TREES ON THE SIR YES I GOT THAT YEAH I GOT THAT.

OKAY ALL RIGHT THANK YOU SO NOW I NEED A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA PLEASE.

SOME OF THEM. JIM MR. GLOVER? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. I NEED A SECOND. OKAY.

MR. CUNNINGHAM DULY MOTIONED AND SECONDED. THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION. ANY DISCUSSION DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH. I GUESS THE MAIN QUESTION IS THE STATEMENT DURING A DISCUSSION BACK I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THESE COMMENTS DID NOT COME UP AT THE PUBLIC HEARING BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S STILL SOME CONFUSION SURROUNDING THE ORDINANCE. I'M ENCOURAGED BY MR. LAWSON'S PROMISE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK INTO THIS MATTER AND IF THERE IS FURTHER ACTION THAT IS NECESSARY CORRECT A MISUNDERSTANDING WE WILL TAKE THAT ACTION AND APPROPRIATE TIME EVEN AFTER THE THIRD READING PASSES THIS ORDINANCE. MR. LAWSON BE HELD TO HIS WORD OF COURSE, WHICH IS ALWAYS GOOD AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT ANY CONFUSION WILL BE ALLEVIATED EVEN IF THIS DOES PASS TONIGHT IN THE CONSENT AGENDA I DON'T THINK IT'S A DEAD ISSUE UNTIL ALL OCCASION HAS BEEN I BELIEVE MR. LAWSON WE WILL TAKE CARE THAT MATTER.

SO I WILL SUPPORT THE PASSING OF THIS CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IS STILL A CONFUSED ISSUE THAT THE CONFUSION WILL BE LIMITED. THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THAT VOTE OF SUPPORT RIGGLEMAN APPRECIATE THAT THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND

[10. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1230 N OKATIE HIGHWAY, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE COOLER TRACT, FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSOLIDATING COUNTY SHERIFF FACILITIES AND OPERATIONS TO THIS PROPERTY AND FOR OTHER FIRST RESPONDER FACILITIES AS DESIRED]

I SEE NO OBJECTIONS CONCERNED AS APPROVED. ITEM NUMBER TEN IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED 1230 NORTH NORTH OKATIE HIGHWAY COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE COOLER TRACT FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSOLIDATING COUNTY SHERIFF FACILITIES AND OPERATIONS TO THIS AND FOR OTHER FIRST RESPONDER FACILITIES AS DESIRED IN MOTION MR. CUNNINGHAM MAKES THE MOTION THAT MR. BROWN MAKES

[11. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND BEAUFORT COUNTY ORDINANCE 2022/33 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 BEAUFORT COUNTY BUDGET TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATIONS TO PAY FOR THE PORT ROYAL LIBRARY, TRANSFER FUNDING FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND FOR THE BATHROOMS AT BRUCE EDGERLY FIELD AND BURTON WELLS, THE USE OF FUNDS TO COMPLETE THE EMS/ FIRE HOUSE IN BLUFFTON, FUNDING OF THE PLANNING AND DESIGN WORK FOR THE USCB CONVOCATION CENTER FACILITY, FUNDING OF A PATHWAY AT THE DISABILITY AND SPECIAL NEEDS BUILDING, FUNDING OF REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS OF CIP, ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO THE ISLAND RECREATION CENTER, FUNDING OF A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, SUSPEND THE CURRENT YEAR TRANSFER FROM THE HOSPITALITY TAX FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND, FUNDING OF DIRT ROAD CONTRACT 54, AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO.]

THE SECOND DULY MOTION AND SECOND ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NO DISCUSSION THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT ITEM NUMBER 11 IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ORDINANCE 2022 SLASH 33 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 DASH 23 BEAUFORT COUNTY BUDGET PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATIONS TO PAY FOR THE PORT ROYAL TRANSFERRING FUNDING FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND FOR THE BATHROOMS AT THE BRUCE ADDERLEY FIELD IN BURTON WELLS THE USE OF FUNDS TO COMPLETE THE EMS SLASH FIREHOUSE AND BLUFFTON FUNDING OF PLANNING AND DESIGN WORK FOR THE USCCB CONVOCATION CENTER FACILITY FUNDING FOR A PATHWAY AT THE DISABILITY AND SPECIAL NEEDS BUILDING FUNDING FOR REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS OF CIP. ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO THE ISLAND RECREATION CENTER FUNDING OF THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT SUSPEND THE CURRENT YEAR TRANSFER FROM THE HOSPITALITY TAX FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND AND FUNDING OF ROAD CONTRACT 54 AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERE TO A MOTION PLEASE I'LL MAKE THE MOTION MR. BENNETT MAKES THE MOTION A SECOND INPUT I HAVE A QUESTION DISCUSSION MR. GLOVER TO HAVE THEM ALL GERARD WHO? YEAH AND SO SORRY TO TALK ABOUT THE USC CONVOCATION WHAT SO AS YOU ALL KNOW THE USC BE CONVOCATION CENTER HAS RECEIVED PARTIAL FUNDING TO A VARIETY OF SOURCES.

THEY ARE TRYING TO RAISE THE REMAINDER OF THE FUNDS TO COMPLETE THE FUNDING FOR CARRYING OUT AND THEY HAVE ASKED THE COUNTY TO ASSIST WITH THEM IN AMOUNT OF $300,000 SO THAT THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE DESIGN OF THAT FACILITY SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY SHOW

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POTENTIAL FUNDERS WHAT THEY WILL BE CONTRIBUTING MONEY AND HOW THAT WILL ACTUALLY LOOK.

RIGHT. AND IT CAME THROUGH COMMITTEE YEAH I REMEMBER THE THAT CAME THROUGH CAME THROUGH FINANCE COMMITTEE. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO OKAY. MR. CUNNINGHAM QUESTION JUST BECAUSE USC WAS BROUGHT UP UM ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT IN THE RETREAT WE'VE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT SOME TYPE OF CENTER TO HOLD, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC HERE, RIGHT? LIKE AN INDOOR ONE LIKE SORT OF LIKE I SAID ANYHOW SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES WHEN I WAS AT UCB THAT LAST THEY ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT PUTTING IN A GYM THAT'S WHAT THIS WILL BE.

YEAH SO IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN PARTNER WITH TO USE ON A PUBLIC USE AS MAYBE TWO BIRDS ONE IT WILL BE OKAY AND THAT'S ALREADY THAT'S ALREADY IN THEIR AGREEMENT THIS IS GOING TO BE A PLACE WHERE OUR HIGH SCHOOLS CAN HOLD THEIR GRADUATIONS IN ADDITION TO THE USC BASED UCB BASKETBALL TEAM THAT JUST RECEIVED DIVISION ONE NCAA STATUS CAN PLAY THEIR GAMES AS WELL WHAT ABOUT LARGER THAN THAT LIKE CONCERTS OR ANYTHING ALONG? I THINK THAT COULD BE DONE OR IS IT NOT BIG ENOUGH THAT'S NOT LOOKING TO I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THE FACILITY IS GOING TO BE FROM A SQUARE FOOTAGE. I MEAN PEOPLE ACCOMMODATE AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT IT'S GOING TO BE AN SIZE SIMILAR PROBABLY IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THE COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON PLAY BASKETBALL IN THE TD ARENA IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A THAT TYPE OF A VENUE. THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTIONS THIS WILL

[12. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING FUNDS FROM THE STATE 2% ACCOMMODATIONS TAX FUND AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO.]

BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTIONS. I KNOW NUMBER 12 IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVED APPROPRIATING FUNDS FROM THE STATE 2% ACCOMMODATIONS TAX FUND AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERE TO A MOTION MAKE THAT MOTION SECOND THAT MR. CHAIRMAN MR. LAWSON MADE THE MOTION MR. CUNNINGHAM MADE THE SECOND DOOLEY MOTION THEN SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

YES, SIR. SO JUST ONE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE RETREAT RIGHT NOW REQUIRE ACCOUNTING FOR ALL OF THESE GRANTS, MAKING SURE MOVING FORWARD AND. THE OTHER THING IS NO ENTITY WAS AWARDED OVER THEIR ORIGINAL ASKING AND CORRECT. CORRECT. AND THOSE OTHER FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE KEPT IN A SEPARATE ACCOUNT UNTIL NEXT YEAR. YES.

YES, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THAT ANSWER. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE

[13. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING FUNDS FROM THE LOCAL ACCOMMODATIONS TAX AND LOCAL HOSPITALITY TAX FUND AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO.]

OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. NO OTHER QUESTIONS THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTIONS. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING FUNDS FROM THE LOCAL ACCOMMODATIONS TASK TAX AND HAS LOCAL HOSPITALITY TAX FUNDS AND ■OTHER MATTERS RELATED TO MOTION PLEASE SO MR. DAWSON MAKES THE MOTION SECOND MR. GLOVER MAKES THE SECOND DULY MOTION DIDN'T SECOND ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ITEM SAME SAME SAME QUESTION SAME ANSWER ABSOLUTELY.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE ANYONE OUR FUNDING THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE THAT THEY ALSO HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE SPONSORSHIP BE FOR COUNTY ON WHATEVER MATERIAL THEY PUT OUT DURING THEIR THANK YOU ACTUALLY GOOD QUESTIONS AGAIN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SO

[14. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO PURCHASE AND TO FUND THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 333 & 335 BUCKWALTER PARKWAY]

NONE THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND I NO OBJECTIONS ITEM 14 IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO PURCHASE AND TO FUND THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT THREE, THREE, THREE AND 335 BUCKWALTER PARKWAY I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION MR. CHAIRMAN MR. CUNNINGHAM MAKES THE MOTION AND SECONDLY YOU WERE LOUDER THAN TAB YOU CAN HAVE MR. MCKELLEN OR DON'T OVERPOWER HER I DEFER TO HER OKAY DULY MOTION THEN SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM JUST A LITTLE BRIEF IF WE AND WE'D HAVE ANYBODY TO BRIEF US ON IT I MEAN LIKE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT BUT INFORM NOBODY ELSE BECAUSE IT IS A SIZABLE PURCHASE WHAT OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS I WAS CONTACTED BY ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS A FEW WEEKS AGO REGARDING THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH PLANNING TO DISPOSE OF TEN ACRES OF PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE ON THE BUCKWALTER PARKWAY NEAR THE LUTHERAN CHURCH.

I BELIEVE IT IS YES IT'S RIGHT BESIDE THAT IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM PUBLIX AND KROGER AND THE DONATION RUN CENTER SO THEY ASKED US TO LOOK INTO POTENTIAL PURCHASES THAT WE THE CHURCH MADE OUR INTEREST KNOWN BECAUSE WERE ABLE TO DO A QUICK SALE.

THEY AGREED AND BECAUSE WE WERE WE GOING TO BUY THE PROPERTY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOWN THE ROAD THEY AGREED TO A REDUCED PRICE AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT.

SO THIS WILL GIVE US GIVE ME AUTHORIZATION TO EXECUTE PAPERWORK TO CONTINUE ON WITH

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THAT PURCHASE AND I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IN THAT LOCATION THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IS OVER THERE FOR THE STORES, THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING AT WASHINGTON SQUARE FROM THAT APPROXIMATELY 170 AND THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY OUR ULTIMATE GOAL AT LEAST MINE AS I SPEAK FOR MYSELF ISN'T NECESSARILY RENTALS IT IS PEOPLE BE ABLE TO PURCHASE FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS SO THAT NOT ONLY ARE THEY INVESTING THEMSELVES BUT THEY'RE BENEFITING FROM THE SALE OF PROPERTY. UM I HOPE AFTER WE GET DONE WITH THIS TRANSACTION WHEN WE START PUTTING FORWARD IDEAS AND OUR THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT THAT'S WHEN WE'LL BRING IT TO THE PUBLIC FOR CONSIDERATION THEIR THOUGHTS BEHIND IT.

I PLAN ON HOLDING A TOWN HALL AFTER WE GET MORE CLARITY OF WHEN WE GET THAT DIRECTION SINCE IT IS RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF MY DISTRICT JUST TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC INFORMED ON IT. MR. PASSMAN YES. JUST TO ADD TO WHAT MR. CUNNINGHAM HAS SAID IS THAT RIGHT NOW THE ONLY THING WE'RE DOING IS PURCHASING THE PROPERTY CORRECT? THEN ALL THE DECISIONS THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT OF HOW THAT'S DONE WILL BE MADE PUBLIC AND HOW WE MAKE OUR DECISIONS ARE MADE PUBLIC.

IF THE PROPERTY IS TO BE DEVELOPABLE THEN THAT WILL ALSO THEN GO TO AN RFP OR BE PUT OUT FOR PUBLIC NOTICE. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE THE IS TRYING TO BUILD HOUSES.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE NOT GOOD AT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO DO WITH THE SALE PROCESS WILL BE OPEN AND AGAIN THAT IS OUR ULTIMATE IS ONCE WE HAVE SECURED THE PROPERTY IS AS MR. CUNNINGHAM SAID A TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT WE CAN GET OUT THERE AND GET PUBLIC INPUT FROM ACTUALLY IS APPRECIATE AND THIS IS MR. CUNNINGHAM'S DISTRICT, RIGHT? YES YEAH I'M I'M EXCITED ABOUT AND I'M SO I'M SUPPORTING IT'S IS THERE AND I'LL GO BLUFFTON AND OFTEN I TRY NOT TO COME VISIT AT SOME POINT I COME MONDAY TO SEE YOU KNOW IT'S JUST IT WAS TRAFFIC FOR ME CONTROL BOY I LIKE THE STORE LIFE AND STUFF.

IS THERE A PATHWAY ALONG THE BUFFALO TO THERE IS A PATHWAY. IT'S ACTUALLY THE PATHWAY THAT I ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT FOR GOLF CAR ACCESS WHICH YOU KNOW WE CAN I PLAN TO EXPLORE AGAIN IN THE FUTURE ESPECIALLY WE ARE ADDING MORE DEVELOPMENT TO LESSEN THAT TRAFFIC THAT IS KEEPING YOU AWAY FROM BLUFFTON SO YOU COME VISIT US. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO GO SO THAT'S WHY SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THIS WILL BE

[15. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO PURCHASE AND TO FUND THE PURCHASE OF A PORTION OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1505 SALEM ROAD]

PASSED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTIONS. OUR FINAL ITEM ITEM 15 IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO PURCHASE AND TO FUND THE PURCHASE OF A PORTION OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1505 SALEM ROAD. A MOTION MR. GLOVER SECOND IN THE STREETS AND I DO THAT ON BEHALF OF MRS. ELLIS I WOULD BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS HER DISTRICT I THINK WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT THIS HERE. OH, ABSOLUTELY. SO MR. CHAIRMAN.

YES. WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS ONCE AGAIN GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE PURCHASE ON THIS. YES.

EXPLANATION. ABSOLUTELY. WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR BECAUSE WE HEARD IT IN OUR COMMITTEE BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THIS MR..

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? GOOD. THIS IS WE ARE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO PROVIDE SPACE FOR CERTAIN AGENCIES AND ENTITIES. SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL DEQ AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ARE ONE OF THOSE AGENCIES AND AS WE HAVE BEEN MOVING FORWARD WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOWNTOWN WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY LOCATED THAT NECESSITATES RELOCATION OF THAT ENTITY WE FOUND THE OWNER OF 15 1505 SALEM ROAD INTERESTED IN SELLING A PORTION OF AN OLD GROCERY STORE AND IN ADDITION FINISHING AND WE WOULD BUY A FINISHED PRODUCT ON A BUILD TO SUIT BASIS AGAIN BETTER THAN ANY PRICE THAT WE COULD TOUCH.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

YES, MR. COOK, JUST JUST A TOUCH ON THIS ONE AND AGAIN WITH THE OTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED WE'VE HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT FOR YEARS BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL BEFORE A LOT OF YOU GUYS WERE ON COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE HOUSING AND LET'S BE REAL PEOPLE BLEW SMOKE FOR YEARS ABOUT IT BUT OUR STAFF HAS DONE A OF A JOB OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS TO ACTUALLY GET THAT BALL ROLLING AND IT'S LITTLE BY LITTLE AND SOME OF IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF TRIAL AND ERROR BECAUSE NOBODY HAS A WAY TO FIX IT ALL. BUT I AM EXCITED TO SEE THAT YOU KNOW, THE STAFF IS BRINGING US STUFF. THEY'RE FINDING OUT THEY'RE WORKING HARD TO FIND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US AND THE COUNCIL'S BEEN SUPPORTIVE TO ACTUALLY DO THE THINGS THAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO AND PEOPLE BEFORE US HAVE SAID THEY'RE READY WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING SO IT'S A START. BOTH OF THESE ARE SO I'M JUST SAYING I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY FULFILLING A LOT OF OUR PROMISES THAT PROBABLY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US RAN FOR

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ON A CAMPAIGN. YEAH I AGREE AND EXCITED AS WELL OKAY NO FURTHER DISCUSSION

[16. CITIZEN COMMENTS - (ANYONE who wishes to speak during the Citizen Comment portion of the meeting will limit their comments to no longer than three (3) minutes ( a total of 15 minutes ) and will address Council in a respectful manner appropriate to the decorum of the meeting, refraining from the use of profane, abusive, or obscene language) (Part 2 of 2)]

THIS WILL BE PASSED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTION.

ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES CARE OF THE BUSINESS WE ARE NOW AT OUR SECOND CITIZENS COMMENTS MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVE STAYED AND WANT TO NOW PRESENT TO US.

I HAVE A FEW OF THEM. MR. HAMILTON, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO US? WE DO ALLOW 3 MINUTES PER PERSON UP TO 15 MINUTES. GOOD EVENING.

MR. HAMILTON. IT EVENING COUNSEL AND CHAIRMAN YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OFF AGENDA ITEM IS SOMETHING THAT I TO KIND PERSONALLY AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT I SHARE WITH YOU THE PRESERVING AND PRESERVING PROTECTING THE PROPERTY IS IS DEEPLY IN MY HEART AS I'M DEEPLY ROOTED IN THAT I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE ENTIRE STATE SHOULD BE DOING BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE CARRIES A LOT OF DIGNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

NO PINE ISLAND IS ONE THAT I BELIEVE HAS SOME SENSITIVITY TO IT AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, I RESPECT THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THERE AND FRIENDS LIKE MR. GLOVER AND MANY OTHER FRIENDS. BUT WE HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT I WORK WITH THAT ALSO HAVE THIS SAME SENSITIVITY THEY FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY HAS TO HAVE A VOICE. WE HAVEN'T BEEN OPEN ENOUGH TO GIVE THAT COMMUNITY THE VOICE THAT WE WANT BUT WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH A LOT OF PROMINENT COMMUNITY LEADERS THAT LEADS US. WE THOUGHT IN THE REASON WHY I'M STILL A PART OF THIS IS BECAUSE THOSE COMMUNITY LEADERS AND FROM THE COMMUNITY LEADERS GAVE ME AN IMPRESSION THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR MORE OF AND FELT LIKE THERE WAS ROOM FOR US TO COMMUNICATE AND I THINK WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE OPPORTUNITY YET TO SEE WHERE WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT BY ALL MEANS A DONE DEAL FOR US HAVING IT IS HIS PLAN FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS A PART OF THE PROCESS. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE COMMUNITY IS A PART OF THE PROCESS. I WOULDN'T BE INVOLVED IF THEY DIDN'T GET THE COMMUNITY THEIR VOICE IS THIS THIS DEVELOPER HAS DONE SOME THINGS THAT I HAVE NEVER A LEADERSHIP POSITION IS TO SAYING WE WANT TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY SO WHEN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF I HOPE IT DOES SOON. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AN OPEN DIALOG WITH THE COMMUNITY SO WE CAN FIND HOW WE CAN BE ON THE SAME PAGE THE SAME TIME. THANK YOU.