Feb 22, 2023 Town of Bluffton Planning Commission

[I. CALL TO ORDER ]

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CALL THIS COMMISSION TO ORDER PLEASE EVERYONE SIT BE QUIET PLEASE I NEED TO CALL THIS PLANNING COMMISSION TO CHARLIE MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALLFIRST OF S WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY THE 22ND MANUAL COFFEE CHAIRPERSON DEMANDED HERE VICE CHAIRMAN CHARLIE WHAT HERE KATHLEEN HERE COMMISSIONER RICH DON'T CALL COMMISSIONER JASON STEWART COMMISSIONER JIM FLYNN

[III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT ]

[IV. NOTICE REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENTS* ]

[V. ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA ]

[VI. ADOPTION OF MINUTES ]

[IX.1. Pinellas Drive Offices (Development Plan Application): A request by Jared Thompson of Moore Civil Consulting, Inc., on behalf of the property owner Ken Toskey for approval of a preliminary development plan. The project consists of the construction of three office buildings totaling 12,600 S.F., associated driveways, parking areas, and bioretention areas. The property is zoned Buckwalter Planned Unit Development and consists of approximately 1.5 acres identified by tax map numbers R610 022 000 1143 0000 located within the Buckwalter Commons Phase 1 Master Plan. (DP-11-22-017433) (Staff - Dan Frazier) ]

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN. THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PINELLAS DRIVE OFFICERS. IT'S A REQUEST BY KAREN THOMPSON OF CONSULTING ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER KEN KOSKI FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLANNING APPLICATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF OFFICE BUILDINGS TOTALING 4600 SQUARE FEET. THE ONE AND A HALF ACRE PROPERTY ZONED BUT CALLED PROPERTY AND LOCATED ON PARK WALTER COMMON ONE A MASTER PLAN HERE IN THE BOSTON EXPLORER PROJECT LOCATION MAPPED OUT ON PINELLAS DRIVE WHICH IS OFF OF ABOUT WALTER PARKWAY.

IT'S AN AERIAL SHOT THE SAME LOCATION PROPERTY ZONE WHICH CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY AND A HALF ACRES LOCATED AT 1841 PINELLAS DRIVE AND IS A PARCEL SEE TWO OF THE PARK WALTER COMMONS PHASE ONE MASTER PLAN PROJECT CONSISTS OF CONSTRUCTION OF THREE OFFICE BUILDINGS TOTALING 12,600 SQUARE FEET AND THE ASSOCIATED DRIVEWAYS PARKING AREAS AND BIO RETENTION AREAS 45 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED ON SITE PLAN SHOWS 60 PARKING SPACES STAFF COMMENTS ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEWED AT THE JANUARY FOUR, 2023 MEETING OF THE DRC ON JANUARY 25TH THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A RESPONSE TO COMMENTS AND UPDATED SITE PLANS ON AN UPDATED SITE PLANS TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS PROVIDED.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN I GOT A ZOOMED VERSION OF IT HERE THIS IS THE PINELLAS DRIVE WHERE WE HAVE DUMPSTER LOCATIONS IN TWO SPOTS WHERE THE INTERNAL SIDEWALK SYSTEM WE'VE GOT A TWO 4500 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING AND AND THEN ONE OFFICE BUILDING THAT 3600 SQUARE FEET YOU OFF DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHAT IS THIS CARWASH IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT THIS IS THE PARKER'S GAS STATION REVIEW CRITERIA 136 PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTION APPROVED SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS TABLE THE APPLICATION OR DENY THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT SHOULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHOOSE APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH

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YEAH, SO I CAN SEE OVER I THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE WON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. THE OCEAN QUESTIONS DEFINITELY .

DO THEY HAVE ROOM? I CAN SEE WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE A SHIFT IF THEY MAKE A SIDEWALK FIVE FOOT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRODUCING THAT PLAN BY THE UNLESS THEY PUSH THAT WHOLE THING FORWARD TO THE STREET. BUT IT LOOKS THEY MAY STILL HAVE ROOM FOR THAT. AM I CORRECT IN THAT WELL I WELL TWO THINGS HERE.

ONE IS AT THE PRELIMINARY WHEN THE NELSON FOR PRE-APPLICATION THAT THEY WE TOLD ME YOU HAVE TO HAVE EIGHT FEET OF A BUILDING YOU DO NOT THAT'S ONLY IN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OR OVERLAY SO THEY DEFINITELY CAN TAKE TWO FEET OF THAT EIGHT FEET STILL HAVE A DECENT PLANTING BED AND PROVIDE THE TYPE OF SIDEWALK AND THERE'S NO PRELIMINARY PLANTING PLAN IS THAT CORRECT? NO, IT'S NOT REQUIRED AT THIS THE FINAL PLANTING PLAN WILL BE PROVIDED AT THE PLANTS METAL. WHO'S THAT DAN? WHO'S THE AUTHORITY ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN THERE IS THE THERE OR IS THERE ONE KIND OF LAUGHING IS THERE AT ALL WILLING TO PAY FOR THE BUCKHORN OR MOVIE THEATER AND I CAN'T RECALL THE FILM'S NAME BUT WHEN WALTER AND OSTRAVA CAME ON THEY KIND OF THEY'RE CREATING THEIR OWN BUT IT FALLS UNDER THAT SO . WE'VE MET THE GUIDELINES WITH BUILDING AND STRUCTURES AS FAR AS WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IN THERE. OH THAT'S KIND OF AND YOU'LL HAVE TO PROVIDE A LOT ACTUALLY BACK OBVIOUSLY QUESTION FOR YOU AND I SEE A PARKING TABLE ON HERE IF THAT I'M SURE IT'S THERE I'M JUST NOT IT IS I HAD A VERSION OF IT BUT IT IS IN THE UPPER LEFT OF THE PLAN THAT'S THE ONLY THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE TO YOUR MIKE I CAN HEAR ME AND EVERYBODY ESPECIALLY NOT PEOPLE WATCHING YOU KNOW THE QUESTION WOULD BE THAT BUILDING THAT ON THIS SLIDE THAT YOU HAVE IT'S ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE HAS A 30 BY 36 PATIO ON IT AND IF IF THAT WERE CHANGED TO RESTAURANT HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE PARKING CALCULATIONS IF I'M IT WILL BUT WITHIN I MEAN THIS IS JUST OCCURRING TO ME NOW I WOULD ASK YOU BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED AT THE PARKING IS ADDRESSED THAT MUCH FROM SPACE THAT IN A UNIT WILL BE A RESTAURANT AND A PATIO WITH WILL BE A PART OF THAT PICTURE. OKAY AND THEN STAFF IF WE COULD JUST THAT'S LABELED AS OFFICE LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PARKING CALCULATIONS MATCH FOR THE RESTAURANT OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK BEFORE US AND REDO IT ALL AND YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE THE THIRD BAY AREA OF THE 1500 SQUARE JUST SO THAT PATIO ON A PATIO THAT SIZE IS USUALLY A RESTAURANT THAT IS I'M NOT AGAIN I JUST COULD JUST LOOKING THROUGH QUICK AS I SAW THIS AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN I'M NOT SAYING THE PARKING TABLE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I THINK IT'S 4 TO 1 AND BY WALTER RIGHT? YEAH. WELL THAT PATIO WOULD BE USED FOR DINING WELL I'D HAVE TO WORK INTO THE CALCULATION. YEAH THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO MAKE. SURE. IN ADDITION TO THE BUILDING ITSELF THIS WOULD BE A NICE RESTAURANT. YOU'LL BE SURPRISED AND OKAY WITH THAT AND THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS NOT THE PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. AGREE WITH THAT? DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I WELL I MEAN WE ARE WE APPROVING OR RECOMMENDING FOR APPROVING OR APPROVING HERE? OKAY OR IN ANY WAY APPROVE WITH A CONDITION THAT TWO CONDITIONS ONE THAT THE SIDEWALKS BE A MINIMUM WEEK WORTH OF FIVE FEET IN THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND NUMBER TWO THAT THE APPLICANT WITH STAFF ON THE PROPOSED USE OF THE RESTAURANT JUST MAKE SURE THAT PARKING CALCULATIONS MATCH AT TIME OF FINAL TWO THE

[IX.2. Compass Self Storage (Development Plan Application): A request by Jonathan Steele of Compass TPC, LLC, on behalf of the property owner, Marilyn Faulkner of MFF Enterprises, LLC, for approval of a preliminary development plan application. The project consists of two 2-story climate-controlled storage buildings totaling 113,544 square feet including a retail sales/rental office and incidental truck rentals. The property is zoned Jones Estate PUD and consists of approximately 3.21 acres identified by tax map numbers R610-036-000-0458-0000 and R610-036-000-0459-0000 and located at the intersection of Gibbet Road and Highway 170 within the Palmetto Point Commercial Master Plan. (DP-09-22-017236) (Staff – Dan Frazier) ]

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THE 3.21 ACRE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE STATE AND IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF GILBERT ROAD AND HIGHWAY 170 WITHIN THE PALMETTO POINT COMMERCIAL MASTER THIS IS THE LOCATION AND SUBJECT PROPERTY THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY THE APPLICATION IS FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN LOCATED IN DELTA STATE PLEASE SUBJECT TO THE STANDARDS SET FORTH IN THE JOBS ESTATE TV DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONCEPT PLANS AND THE PALMETTO POINT COMMERCIAL MASTER PLAN PROJECT CONSISTS OF TWO TWO STORY CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE BUILDINGS TOTALING 113,544 SQUARE FEET AND ALSO INCLUDE IN THE RETAIL SALES RENTAL OFFICE SITE WILL NOT BE USED FOR TRUCK RENTALS HOWEVER ON OCCASION A RENTAL TRUCK MAY BE PARKED ONSITE BETWEEN RENTALS AND STAFF.

COMMENTS FOR THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WERE REVIEWED ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 2020 TO DRC MEETING APPLICANT THREE SUBMITTAL REFLECTED A MAJOR CHANGE FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

THEY WENT FROM ONE BUILDING TO TWO BUILDINGS. WE TOOK THEM BACK TO DRC FOR A SECOND TIME AND THAT WAS ON JANUARY 11, 2023. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES THAT A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HAVE A QUARTER OVERLAY BE SUBMITTED EXAMINING LIGHTING AND ARCHITECTURE THAT MEAN YOU GUYS WILL SEE IT AGAIN WHEN COMES THROUGH FOR THAT THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AS WELL AND IT UP A LITTLE BIT HERE HARD TO SEE SO SO IT IS A TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS TWO STORY CLIMATE CONTROL ITS ACCESS UP OFF OF THIS ROAD THIS IS A STATE BOULEVARD IT'S THIS IS THE PICKLEBALL SITE TO THE SOUTH OF IT SO THE CIRCULATION IS UP THROUGH HERE AND COMES BACK OUT THE LOADING AREAS AND THE ENTRANCE AREAS ARE SHOWN HERE I BELIEVE THIS IS OFFICE AREA AND THEY'VE PROVIDED THE ADEQUATE PARKING. THERE'S A GRAVEL DRIVE RIGHT HERE THAT'S EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY FIRE TRUCKS IN CASE OF A FIRE THERE A FULL ACCESS BACK OF THE BUILDING THERE'S A BUFFER ALONG HIGHWAY SC 173 HIGHWAY RIGHT HERE WHERE WE'RE ASKING THAT AS PART OF THIS SUBMISSION THAT A BEING BUILT ALONG THE PERIMETER AND WE'RE RUNNING UP TO THE THE PROPERTY LINE AND GIVE IT ROAD FILL FILL COME SHORT OF INTERSECTION TO THE TO THE NORTH THAT'S UPSTAIRS SITE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET IN SECTION 310 THREE A THIS IS THE CRITERIA AND PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTION APPROVE THE APPLICATION AND SUBMIT IT APPROVED APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS TABLED THE APPLICATION OR DENIED THE APPLICATION AND SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT THAT FINDS OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN SECTION THREE AND THREE OF THE UNIFIED AND ALTERNATE ORDINANCE AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BEFORE WE MOVE ON AND I KNOW THE TOURNAMENT STILL IS HERE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AND WE'RE HEADED TO CLEAN IT UP VERY WELL.

I'LL JUST ANSWER. WHAT WAS YOUR NAME? JONATHAN STEEL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DAN OR JONATHAN? YEAH, I DID HAVE A COMMENT FOR YOU, MR. WHAT THE PROJECT IS GOING IN NEXT DOOR THE 25 PICKLEBALL COURTS AND THEY ARE

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SO THE INTENT IS TO HAVE A GATE RIGHT HERE AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WILL BE AT THE BACK HERE.

SO THE OFFICE PARKING IN THE FRONT OF THE THIS IS THE OFFICE HERE AND SO WE'LL HAVE THIS IS THE OFFICE PARKING RIGHT AND THE OF IT WILL BE GATED AND SECURE AND AND BY NO MEANS I TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO IF IT WERE MY PROPERTY I WOULD HAVE SIGNS ON EACH PARKING SPOT THAT SAY COME TO SELF-STORAGE OFFICE PARKING ONLY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

YES WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PREDICTING THE FUTURE. YES.

YEAH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF NEIGHBORS RIGHT THERE. NO ISSUES.

SO THAT THOUGHT OCCURRED TO US WHAT WE'RE OKAY. MR. FATHER, JUST A COMMENT I APPRECIATE YOU ADJUSTING THIS TO SAY THE NUMBER OF TREES WE'RE SAVING YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON? SURE.

I MOVE THAT WE COULD YOU PUT THAT UP AGAIN, PLEASE? THANK YOU.

AND SO I MOVE THAT THAT WE ACCEPT AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED FOR THE COMPASS DEVELOPMENT. I HAVE A SECOND SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. I THINK YOU AND THAT'S THE MOST STORAGE UNITS WE CAN BUILD IN

[IX.3. Buckwalter Place Lot 100 (Development Plan): A request by Dan Keefer of Witmer Jones Keefer, Ltd on behalf of the property owner, Jaz Development, LLC for approval of a preliminary development plan application. The project proposes the construction of two mixed-use buildings with building “A” including a +/-1,500 SF restaurant and +/-5,100 SF retail space, and building “B” including a +/-7,000 SF two-story office space and a +/-1,500 SF single-story office space. The property is zoned Buckwalter Planned Unit Development and consists of approximately 1.5 acres identified by tax map number R610 030 000 2002 0000 located within the Buckwalter Place Master Plan. (DP-11-22-017374) (Staff - Dan Frazier). ]

YEAH HE'S BACK THERE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A BUCKWALTER PLACE LOT 100 THREE REQUEST BY DAN KEEFER OF JONES KEEFER ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER JAZZ DEVELOPMENT LLC FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION FOR CONSTRUCTION TWO MIXED USE BUILDINGS TOTALING 15,100 SQUARE FEET.

THE ONE AND A HALF ACRE PROPERTY OWNED BY WALTER PEABODY AND LOCATED WITHIN THE PARK HALL THIRD PLACE MASTER PLAN. THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT AT THE ROUNDABOUT WITHIN BUCKWALTER PLACE AT THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF IT IS AN AERIAL OF THE SAME LOCATION THAT APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN LOCATED WITHIN BY CALL PLEASE SUBJECT TO THE STANDARDS SET FORTH IN THE BUCKWALTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND CONCEPT PLAN AND THE BIKE MARKETPLACE MASTER PLAN PROJECT PROPOSES THE CONSTRUCTION OF TWO MIXED USE BUILDINGS 15,100 SQUARE FEET BUILDING A INCLUDES A 1500 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT AND PLUS OR -5100 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE BUILDING B INCLUDES 7000 SQUARE FOOT TWO STORY OFFICE SPACE AND A 1500 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE STOREY OFFICE SPACE. TOTAL OF 86 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED IN THE SITE PLAN AND PROVIDES FOR 87 PARKING SPACES THAT COMMENTS ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WERE REVIEWED AT THE NOVEMBER 23RD 20.2 MILLION OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW ON JANUARY 27TH THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A RESPONSE COMMENTS AND UPDATED THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO ADDRESS PROVIDED THERE IS THE SITE PLAN HERE IS A VIEW OF A IT IS ADJACENT TO THE PUBLIX GROCERY STORE PARKING BELOW IT IS WHERE THE MINI GOLF IS CURRENTLY BEING CONSTRUCTED.

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THERE'S A SIDEWALK SYSTEM THAT RUNS UP HERE WRAPS AROUND COMES BACK OUT HERE SO THAT THE FOLKS IN THE PARKING LOT HERE CAN ACCESS THE SIDEWALK. THERE'S I BELIEVE IT'S TWO ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES THAT COUNT TOWARDS THE DEVELOPMENT ARE ALONG HERE PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 310 THREE A OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE IN ASSESSING AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THESE ARE THE CRITERIA PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED AND APPROVED THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS TABLE THE APPLICATION OR THE FORWARD DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED THE APPLICANT I'M SATISFIED THAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION THREE 1038 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE IS MET AND RECOMMENDED PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED AND I CAN RETURN TO THE PLAN AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. MATT ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAN OR OR WOULD YOU LIKE MORE THERE FOR THE APPLICANT. YEAH YEAH. TWO COMMENTS ON THIS ONE WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS ONE INNKEEPER WOULD YOU LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THAT WITH YOUR JAMES EVER AND SIR DAVID OVER HERE THAT APPLICANT AND BRIAN LYLE ON SOMEWHERE IN YOUR CURT ANSWERING QUESTIONS THANK YOU GOD DON'T GO TOO FAR AHEAD AND GOING TO THANKS FOR FIRST YEAH I'VE TWO THINGS THAT PERSONALLY ARE A CHALLENGE TO ME ON THIS PLAN AND I LIKE IT OVERALL BUT IF WE WOULD LOOK AND THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE TO HELP MAKE A TANNER OKAY DOWN ON THE SOUTH END OF PROPERTY THERE IS A SIDEWALK THAT I KNOW THAT TALKED TO YOU ABOUT PUTTING THEIR WE NEED A CROSSWALK THERE AS WELL BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE SHOPS POTENTIALLY BETWEEN THE MINI GOLF POTENTIALLY SO THAT NEEDS TO BE IN OPINION COMMISSIONED BY THE LOCATION. YEAH YEAH THAT'S RIGHT CROSSWALK YEAH THAT'S RIGHT CROSSWALK PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE CLASSIC THINGS THAT A STATE LAW YOU MUST UPDATE CARS ON OVER THOSE THINGS THE MORE IMMEDIATE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS DAN AND I KNOW BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS OR WE TALKED ABOUT IT THE PARKING SPOTS ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY, THE FIRST TWO SPOTS SPECIFICALLY IF YOU PULL INTO THOSE FIRST TWO SPOTS AND YOU GO TO BACK OUT. YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO LOOK FOR DIRECTIONS TO TRY AND BACK OUT THAT IS UNSAFE. SO THOSE THOSE TWO SPOTS EITHER NEED TO GO AWAY OR POTENTIALLY AND IS I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A STAFF THING MAKE THEM DIAGONAL THERE SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE BACKING BACK OUT YOU'RE ONLY DEALING WITH TRAFFIC COMING FROM ONE PARTICULAR SPACE AREA AND I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.

YEAH AS WE LOOK AT IT YOU CAN'T SEE ON HIS NECK ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE PARK IS THEY'RE ANGLED SPACES AND WE LOOK AT THAT SPACING AND WE SERVE A BACK AND FORTH ON IT.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE 90 DEGREE PARKING AS YOU COME DOWN BUT WE ALL THE STAFF ON THAT WE HAVE I THINK WE HAVE ONE EXTRA SPACE AND I'M SURE WOULD BE FINE ONE MORE BUT WE GET WHAT WE SAID ON THAT TO AT THAT ANGLE THAT OPTION AND YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THAT CONCERNS ME JUST BECAUSE I'M IN A LOT OF TRAFFIC THERE INCLUDED I LIVE NEAR THERE YEAH I DON'T GO TO BRIDGE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SOMEBODY UP HERE OWNS A CORVETTE AND IT'S A HARD TIME GETTING OUT.

YOU'RE ON YOUR ON THE BOTTOM BUT IF YOU'RE ON THAT BOTTOM ROAD AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OUT, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT CARS PARKED ALONG THAT SPOT WHERE YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT CARS AND CARS PARKING FOR STATION 300 AND THAT'S DIFFICULT ENOUGH WHEN YOU GO UP TO THE NORTHERN SPOT THAT CHARLIE'S TALKING ABOUT YOU REALLY COULD HAVE PEOPLE WHIPPING IN FROM THE BUCKWALTER PLACE BOULEVARD COMING OUT OF THE PUBLIC LOT GOING DOWN THIS ROAD AND I THINK IT'S JUST AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN SO YEAH IF THERE'S WAY YOU COULD DO AN ANGLE THING AND FIND THE EXTRA PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE I KNOW THE ANGLES TAKE

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YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE WHEN I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION I CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, SUBMIT WITH THE CONDITION THAT THEY FIND A WAY TO MITIGATE THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE ABOUT THE PARKING IN THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PLOT AND THE CROSSWALK AND AND THANK YOU AND THE CROSSWALK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A SECOND OKAY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OKAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO RIGHT THERE DAN KEEFER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO

[IX.4. The Parkways Office at Hampton Lake (Development Plan Application): A request by Caleb King of Witmer Jones Keefer, Ltd on behalf of the property owner, University Investments, LLC for approval of a preliminary development plan. The project proposes the construction of two 3-story buildings totaling 10,000 sq. ft. each, one 2-story building of 7,000 sq. ft., and the associated access, parking, and utilities to serve the buildings. The property is zoned Buckwalter PUD and consists of approximately 5.31 acres, identified by tax map numbers R614-029-000-0784-0000 and R614-029-000-0485-0000 located within the Hampton Lake Master Plan. (DP-10-22-017335) (Staff – Dan Frazier) ]

THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE BRIGHT WATER OF HAMPTON LAKE MASTER PLAN AND THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE HAMPTON MASTER PLAN. THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE SALT LAKE PROPERTY SAME SUBJECT PROPERTY OF THE CHILD OUR BLUFFTON EXPLORER WHERE THE APPLICATION FOR THE APPLICATION IS FOR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN LOCATED WITHIN BY QUARTER PD AND IS SUBJECT TO THE STANDARDS SET FORTH IN THE PARK WALL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT AND CONCEPT PLAN THE BRIGHT WATER AT HAMPTON LAKES MASTER PLAN AND THEY HAVE THE LATEST MASTER PLAN AS APPLICABLE PROJECT PROPOSES THE CONSTRUCTION OF TWO THREE STORY BUILDINGS TOTALING 10,000 SQUARE FEET EACH ONE TWO STORY BUILDING TOTALING 7000 SQUARE FEET AND THE ASSOCIATED ACCESS PARKING UTILITIES OF SEVEN BUILDINGS A TOTAL OF 121 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND THE SITE PLAN 120 PARKING SPACES THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE AT TIME OF FINAL INSTALLMENT PLAN SUBMITTAL STAFF COMMENTS ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WERE REVIEWED AT THE NOVEMBER 23RD 2022 MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW ON JANUARY 27, 2023. THE APPLICANT A RESPONSE TO COMMENTS AND UPDATED THE SITE PLANS THE SITE DEVELOPMENT TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS PROVIDED. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SHOWING THE SHOWING THE WHOLE PROPERTY AND AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY TO THE NORTH THIS IS THE VERSION DIFFERENT SO IN THE DEVELOPED AREA AREA PERMEABLE PARK IN THE BACK THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PHASE IT WHERE THEY WILL BUILD EVERYTHING EXCEPT THIS BUILDING SO ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALL IN ONE PARKING AND THESE TWO BUILDINGS ARE BUILT WITH AN INITIAL PHASE AND THE SECOND PHASE WILL COME IN WITH JUST THIS BUILDING IN THE TIME SO THE UTILITIES WE'VE GOT THE ATTENTION ACROSS THE FRONT AND TO THE EAST SO A LOT OF PUTTING PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD CONSIDER THE SET FORTH IN SECTION 310 THREE A VIDEO AND A AN APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THESE ARE THE CRITERIA ONCE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE

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THIS IS THE COMBINATION OF THOSE USES THAT WORKS OUT WITH THE PARKING AND THIS WAS THE APPLICANT WAS ONE THAT PROVIDED THESE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HAVE BEEN ANSWERED AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE WE HAVEN'T HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ONE ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR DAN BEFORE WE OPEN ANOTHER CLARIFICATION, DAN ON THE APPLICANT'S TO ITEM 12 ON THEIR SHEET WHERE THEY SAID THAT NO TRUE COMMUNICATION IS REQUIRED OUTSIDE OF HCA BAY IT IS AN HMO BUT THERE IS THREE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS YOU JUST UPDATE US AS A COMMISSIONERS WHAT THAT IS IT IS A TREES PER ACRE THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE.

IS THERE A SIZE ON THE TREES MIDDLE THREE SLOPING SCHOOLS? I HAVE A QUESTION I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED IT'S EITHER PARKING CALCULATIONS ON THEIR PLAN AND THEN I WOULD SAY SO 123 PARKING SPACES PROVIDED YOU INDICATED THEY PROVIDED 120 AND THEY NEED 221.

SO I THINK CONSISTENCY IS CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM SEE WHERE THE PARKING IS COMING FROM? WELL WHY WHY WHY AM I SEEING INCONSISTENCIES IN WHAT'S HAPPENING? THEY SHOWED I THINK THEY SHOWED 123 BUT THEY WERE OFF THEY WERE COUNTING NEW GOLF CART SPACES. OKAY AND THEY CAN'T COUNT GOLF CARTS.

ALL RIGHT. THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT AND THEN ARE ARE THEY REQUIRED ? WELL, I SUPPOSE AND PROBABLY NOT ARE THEY REQUIRED TO CONNECT THAT WALKWAY TO THAT HAMPTON LAKE DRIVE SIDEWALK IN ANY WAY? IT'S IT'S ON ONE SIDE NEXT TO THE CIRCLE BUT WE'RE THE MAIN DRIVERS.

WE ARE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BOARD. YEAH I'M TALKING ABOUT AT THE MIDDLE OF THIS. YEAH. THE YELLOW WALK IT'S CONNECTED BY THE CIRCLE BUT IT'S NOT CONNECTED BY THE DRIVE. SO BASICALLY YOU CAN ONLY GET OUT IN ONE WAY IF YOU'RE COMING IN FROM HAMPTON LAKE YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK THIS ASPHALT DRIVE AND THEN WALK UP THE DRIVE WHERE ALL THE CARS ARE. SO IT'S A BIT OF A VEHICULAR CONFLICT ISSUE IF YOU'RE WALKING OF THE APPLICANT. YEAH TO THAT THE QUESTION WAS WAS WHETHER IT WAS REQUIRED I'M ASSUMING IT'S NOT TO HAVE THAT OKAY AND IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA AS SOMEBODY WHO WALKS BY THERE MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK TO HAVE A SIDEWALK ALONG THAT MAIN DRIVE AND THEN THE OTHER THE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR DAN BEFORE WE END I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE GOT FROM DAN WHEN I GOT THE DUMPSTER IS SITTING UNDERNEATH THAT POWER LINE IS THIS I'M CONCERNED YOU CAN'T TREES THAT GET LARGER THAN LIKE 12 FEET OVER THE POWER LINE BUT WE'VE GOT A DUMPSTER THAT CAN PICK UP AND DUMP INTO A DUMP TRUCK HONESTLY I'VE NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT BUT I BUT I THINK THAT CITE THEIR DUMPSTER THEY HAVE IT BUT IT CAN SIT DOWN TO THE POWER LINES IT CONSIDERS THE POWER LINES OKAY.

CLEARLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE FOR THE LOCATION IS PROBABLY GOING TO GO AWAY IN FAVOR OF ROLL OUTS PREVIOUSLY. IF WE DO END UP WITH A DUMPSTER WE'LL ADDRESS THAT THEN.

SO IS THAT THE ROLLOUT WHERE THEY WERE ROLLING OUT WOULD TAKE OUT LIKE SERVICE TYPE AREAS OUT OF THOSE PATIOS BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND SO DOES THAT MEAN WELL HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THE TRASH HAPPENED THAT WAY I MEAN WE'RE NOT SURE OF THE FINAL USES YET SO WE'RE NOT SURE HOW MUCH TRASH WOULD HAVE BUT AT SOME POINT THE TRASH THE DUMPSTER WOULD COME AND GET IT. WE WOULD A LOADING ZONE IN FRONT OF IT.

SO IF THERE'S A LOADING ZONE AND DOES THAT MESS WITH YOUR PARKING IT POTENTIALLY BE WE'VE GOT ROOMS WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE PARKING HERE IN THERE. YEAH OF HERE WE WOULD DENSITY

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SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH TRASH BINS. WE MAY MOVE BUT IF WE KNOW THAT WE'RE STILL GOT TO GET OUR PART AND JUST AS A JUST A NOTE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A DUMPSTER IF YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT IN THERE THAT'S RIGHT. THERE IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON YOU KNOW IT'S A SMALL RESTAURANT MORE OF A COFFEE SHOP IT MAY NOT BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT USER MAY WANT IT SO WELL WE KNOW WHEN WE WORK THROUGH THIS WE GOT TO I DON'T KNOW WHERE DOES SO AND THEN BACK TO THE WALKWAY DID YOU LOOK I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM TO INCLUDE A WALKWAY THERE THE REASON THAT WE DID NOT CONNECT THE INTERIOR WALKWAY TO THAT ALONG THAT RIGHT THAT ENTRANCE YES THERE SO WE OPTED IN HAVING A CONNECTION I EXISTING WHERE THE SIDEWALK CONNECTS ACROSS THE STREET WHICH WAS ALREADY REFERRED TO BY THE CIRCLE BACK TO THE CIRCLE THAT ONE THERE'S A SIDEWALK DIRECTLY ACROSS THAT YOU'RE NOT COMING THROUGH HERE AND I DON'T KNOW SINCE IT'S NOT REQUIRED OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T ASK YOU TO PUT IT IN THERE BUT I'D STRONGLY ENCOURAGE JUST GET IN THE COMMUNITY, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO SO WE START THE GRADING TIED IN THERE ON THIS WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT THAT.

SO THAT'S PART OF WHY BUT I THINK WE CAN EXPLORE IT AND SEE IF WE CAN.

I THANK YOU FOR POINTING IT BECAUSE THAT WAS A GOOD POINT. I MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 250 APARTMENTS TO THE EAST OF THAT. YOU ALREADY HAVE 250 APARTMENTS TO THE WEST AND THEN YOU HAVE 1350 HOMES BEHIND IT. SO IF YOU HAVE THAT SECOND SIDEWALK THAT YOU PROBABLY END UP WITH A BEATEN PATH IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS YOU KNOW, AS CHARLIE COMMISSIONER WETMORE SUGGESTED, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING IN AND OUT OF HERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY WAY FOR YOU TO MITIGATE THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC HAPPENS TO BE A MAIN ENTRANCE FOR BOTH THE BED AND HOUSE AS WELL AS HAMPTON LAKE WITH LOTS OF RESIDENTS THE CONSTRUCTION DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME IS GOING TO PROBABLY WRAP THAT UP PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ACCESS THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE DURING JUST A CONSIDERATION FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT. YEAH THE OPTIONS FOR WHERE THEY ARE WITH THE CONSTRAINTS AND THEN THERE WAS THERE WAS THE QUESTION I HAD THE INITIAL PLAN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SAID THAT THEIR NATURE OF THE AERIAL ACCESS TO THE BUILDINGS FOR FIRE AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS ON THIS ONE THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED AT TIME OF FAR RIGHT.

IT WILL AND THE FIRE MARSHAL WAS NOT TO COMMENT AGAIN BUT WE REACHED OUT WHEN WHEN THEY RESUBMITTED AND THEN WROTE TO THE FIRE MARSHAL SAID OKAY SO I WASN'T HAPPY WITH THE FIRST TIME HE WAS HAPPY WITH THE SECOND BIGGEST APPARATUS AND I DON'T AS LONG STAFF WORK THROUGH WITH THEM IN. YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS ANSWER? I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT. I JUST YOU KNOW, IT WAS THERE AND NOW IT'S NOT AND I KNOW THAT'S WHY WE WENT IN HERE. THEY COME ON CONTACT FORM SO IT THEY HAVE TO BE TO LOOK MORE.

THE OTHER THING I SEE ON THE PLAN IS THIS PART TO THE PARKING CALCULATIONS IT'S AN AVERAGE BASED OFF OF AND RETAIL I DON'T SEE THE RESTAURANT LISTED ON THIS PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SO ONE TYPICALLY I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING AVERAGE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BEING SPECIFICALLY USED FOR WHAT BUT TYPICALLY YOU BASE IT OFF THE ACTUAL USE ITSELF AND FROM MY PER THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE USE AND BECAUSE RESTAURANT IS SUCH A INTENSIVE USE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT CALCULATION. SO THAT'S ONE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WORK WITH SO THAT THEY DO NOT REACH OUT TO THEM AND IT FIRST IT WAS CALLED OUT AS THREE BUILDINGS FLEX SPACE AND THESE ARE ALL WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE THE PARKING IS REQUIRED BASED ON FLEX SPACE SO FOR WHAT WOULD BE THE USES AND THEY THEY RESPONDED BACK WITH THE ACTUAL

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THANK YOU. YOU TAKE THAT APPROACH I THINK WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT IN THAT PERIOD EATING OUT OF YOUR HEAD IS 4000 SQUARE FEET THREE AND A HALF, FOUR OFFICE AND RESTAURANT IS FOR OTHER SO I'M GOING BACK TO THE PARKING THAT THESE PERCENTAGE OR SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY WOULD NEED THEIR PARKING CALCULATIONS IS THAT RIGHT AND FLEXIBILITY THERE IF THEY WERE IF WANT I MEAN THE RESTAURANT USES THE ONE THAT GETS THEM IF WERE TO HAVE A BIGGER RESTAURANT THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T MEET THE PARKING RIGHT BUT I THEY CAN THEY CAN HAVE A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY BETWEEN RETAIL AND OFFICE THE WAY THE BUILDINGS ARE SET UP. IT LOOKS LIKE RETAIL WAS FLOOR UNDER THE IDEA BUT MOST LIKELY YES THANK YOU AND ANY OTHER COMMENTS ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICATION WITH THE CONDITION NOTED BY STAFF BY A SECOND SO I SO HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON FAVOR

[IX.5. Alston Park Phase 3 (Initial Master Plan): A request by Dan Keefer of Witmer Jones Keefer, LTD, on behalf of Village Park Communities, LLC, for approval of a master plan. The project consists of a maximum of 76 dwelling units, park/open spaces, and related infrastructure. The property is zoned New Riverside PUD and consists of approximately 63 acres identified by tax map numbers R610 035 000 0019 0000 and R610 035 000 0846 0000 and commonly referred to as New Riverside Parcel 5A South located east of New Riverside Road. (MP-04-22-016566) (Staff – Dan Frazier) ]

HOLLY HILL LANE AND I'LL AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE LOCATION OF THAT AND THE NEXT SLIDE IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE FIRST PHASE AND THERE IS A MAXIMUM OF 76 SINGLE FAMILY UNIT QUALITY IS BEING PROPOSED HERE THEY HAVE THEY HAVE THOSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS SO DESIGN ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WILL SET THE FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS PER. THE NEW RIVERSIDE PAD DEVELOPMENT WILL MEET OR EXCEED THE ZONING STANDARD ORDINANCE SO IN PLACE IN 2004 THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NEW RIVERSIDE CONCEPT PLAN BASED ON CURRENT MARKET MARKET CONDITIONS MASTER PLAN INDICATES A PLUS A PLUS OR -70 FOOT BY 120 FOOT LOT SIZES AND THAT WOULD BE WITH A 15 FOOT FRONT TEN FOOT REAR AND FIVE FOOT SIDE YARDS ON EACH TYPICAL LOT STREETS WILL BE PRIVATELY OWNED. THERE IS AN OVERALL TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE ORIGINALLY WITH THE NEW RIVERSIDE MASTER DEVELOPER COMMISSIONING THE TRAFFIC STUDY AT THAT TIME THE UNITS THAT WERE SHOWN HERE WERE INCLUDED IN THAT ORIGINAL TRAFFIC REPORT. IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE WAS AN UPDATED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE BY KIMBERLY HORNE AND WAS INCLUDED WITH THIS INITIAL MASTER PLAN.

NOW ONE OF THE FINDINGS OUT OF IT WAS AS YOU COME DOWN NEW RIVERSIDE DRIVE ENTERING INTO WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT THIS HILL LANE OF JUMPED HERE TO BETTER SHOW IT IT'S ACTUALLY

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THIS IS A SAME THING IN A SIMILAR SUPPLY. WE JUST KIND OF ZOOMED IN HOLLY HILL LANE IS NOT BUILT RIGHT NOW THERE THERE IS A BREAK IN THE MEDIAN THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE THIS THIS WOULD BE BUILT AS PART OF PHASE ONE THEY ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD THE WHOLE THING AS A SINGLE PHASE BUT THEY MENTIONED IN THEIR SUBMITTAL THAT THAT THAT MAY CHANGE BASED UPON MARKET CONDITIONS THAT THIS WOULD BE THIS IS A 50 FOOT RIDE AWAY IT WOULD BE 24 FEET OF PAVEMENT IN ORDER TO BUILD IT ALL THE WAY TO THIS CONNECTION.

THIS HAS BEEN ENCIRCLED LEADS THAT THIS ROAD RIGHT NOW IF YOU'RE IN PARK UP HERE YOU CAN'T GET DOWN TO OR HILL LANE THERE NO HOLLY HILL LANE SO ACTUAL SITE DEVELOPMENT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE A CONNECTION TO THE STONE CIRCLE SO THEY HAVE TO BUILD ALL OF HOLLY LANE AND THIS CONNECTION HERE AND AS PART OF THE FIRST PHASE I WOULD ALSO SERVE AS THE CONSTRUCT CONSTRUCTION ROAD FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE LEAVING OPEN THE OPTION OF WHETHER TO GATE THE COMMUNITY OR NOT THAT'S UP TO THE DEVELOPER OWNER AND IF THEY DO IF THEY PROVIDED A LITTLE TURN AROUND A ROUNDABOUT IF THEY HAVE GAINED ACCESS I THINK THEY'RE CONSIDERING MAYBE HAVING THOSE GATES AS CLOSE ONLY IN THE EVENING I WOULD SAY THERE'S AN AMENITY AREA HERE. THAT'S ALSO WHERE THE KIOSK IS. I BELIEVE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A SPORTS QUARTER MAYBE MAYBE A PICKLEBALL COURT IN THAT AREA THEY'VE GOT MULTIPLE GREENS THE NEXT SLIDE WOULD LOOKS SIMILAR BUT WHAT IT'S SHOWING HERE A TRAIL IS AN OPEN SPACE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. THEY ARE PROPOSING A GREENWAY THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THIS GREENWAY WILL BE MADE UP OF A FOUR FOOT WIDE SPORTS PASS THAT WOULD MAKE COLOR BLINDNESS IS KICKING IN HERE SO IT GETS OUT HERE BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR TRAVELS DOWN IN THIS DIRECTION SO BUT BUT THEY ALSO THE SQUARE IS SIZE AND THE SIDEWALK AND THERE'S THE SIDEWALK GETTING OUT. WE HAVE AN EXISTING NEW RIVERSIDE TRAIL RIGHT HERE.

WE REQUIRE THAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO THE WAY THEY'RE SHOWING IT NOW WOULD SHOW A CONNECTION THAT IS ON THEIR PROPERTY. BUT BACK TO THE TRAIL PART OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY PARK THAT'S OFF TO THE WEST IS THAT THE PARK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING THIS ROAD AND AN EIGHT FOOT ASPHALT PATH SINCE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS COMING IN FIRST I'M ASKING THEM TO BUILD AN ASPHALT. WELL, WHAT WE'RE WELL WE'RE WANTING THEM TO DO IS TAKE THEIR INTERNAL CIRCULATION, TAKE IT OUT TO A HOLLOW HILL LANE AND THEN ALSO BUILD THIS SECTION OF THE EIGHT FOOT ASPHALT PATH AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT SO THE REMAINDER THAT ASPHALT PATH I WOULD SAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HOLLOW HILL LANE WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY THE COUNTY PARK ALONG WITH THE ROAD FROM THIS INTERSECTION LET US SORT THEIR THAT THIS IS THEIR ROAD CROSS SECTION 50 FOOT CROSS SECTION WITH 24 FEET OF OF ROADWAY PAVED ASPHALT PARK FOR THE SIDEWALK ONLY ON ONE SIDE ONE STREET TREAT FOR A LOT THAT MAY FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON WHERE THEIR LIGHT POLES ARE AND ANY CONFLICTS THEY MAY HAVE BUT THEY'RE THERE IN THEIR SUBMITTAL THEY SAID THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE ONE TREE FOR A WHILE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A 20 FOOT SETBACK FOR GARAGES, 15 FOOT SETBACK FOR THE HOMES THAT ALLOWS FOR A FOUR PARKING TWO CAR TO CAR WITH IN THE DRIVEWAY THAT DOESN'T IMPEDE ON THE SIDEWALK AS WELL A TWO CAR GARAGE. SO THAT'S FOUR PARKING SPACES PER HOUSE.

WE REQUIRE TWO PARKING SPACES PERHAPS THERE'S THERE'S NO ON STREET PARKING WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT BEING PROPOSED THIS IS A REVIEW CRITERIA ONE THROUGH EIGHT.

THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE FIRST FOUR CRITERIA YOU SAW. THIS IS SPECIFIC TO A MASTER PLAN THE PROPERTY PRE-APPLICATION MEETING TOOK PLACE BACK IN MARCH OF 2022.

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YES EACH WEEK WITH THE APPLICANT NEED TO SPEAK FOR NOT WHAT THE WELCOME THAT WOMEN ARE ASKING FOR AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT WE'VE GOT BARTMANN AND THE OWNER TEMPERATURE WITH CAROLINA ENGINEERING AS WELL SO WE'LL BE ON STANDBY OKAY THANK.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. KATHLEEN ANYTHING FOR OPEN UP.

OKAY, COOL GUIDANCE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE CHOOSE CAREFULLY WITH PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES. THANKS BILL SIMPLY 63 ROLLING IN DRY AUSTIN PARK LOVELAND THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO TALK.

MY PROBLEM IS WELL FIRST I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE WE NEED TO SEE KEEP AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY SQUISH CERTAIN PHASE TWO AC WE ENDED UP WITH FOUR TREES.

THAT WOULD BE NICE. MY SECOND PROBLEM IS THE BUILDING OF HOLLY HILL HERE SHOW WELL MOORE SAID SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY. YOU CAN JUST OPEN 50 BACKYARDS STILL OUTSIDE PEOPLE. WE WERE WE SOLD WOODED LOTS AND NOW YOU'RE YOUR PROBLEM.

BUT THESE PEOPLE CAME TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU. SEE NOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS EVERY COUNTY CLOCK IN A LITTLE GRISWALD DRIVE DOWN THERE WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO AND I GUESS WE'RE TO BUY FENCES I'M NOT QUITE SURE. SECURITY CAMERAS, LIGHTS YOU

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THE TREES THAT I FORGET SOMETHING BUT WHAT AM I GOING TO KNOW HOW MANY SOME THAT 48 SECONDS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. JAMES BLATCHFORD.

LET HIM OUT. FIRST OF ALL, MY NAME IS JAMES BLATCHFORD AND JIM LAST WROTE I'M AN 11 GROVE WOULD DRIVE AND THEN YOU DID CLARIFY UP FOR ME I WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DWELLING UNITS BECAUSE THAT GAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TOWNHOUSES AND APARTMENTS.

BUT YOU DID SAY SINGLE SO THAT KIND OF LET SOME OF MY AREA HELP THE ROAD IS BEING BUILT I UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING TO BE A DIRT ROAD AND FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE WHOLE CONCEPT AFTER THAT BEAUFORT NOW IS GOING TO BE PUTTING SOME MONEY TOWARDS THIS ROAD.

IS THAT ROAD GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE? BEAUFORT COUNTY WHICH MEANS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN GO IN THERE, WRITE TICKETS FOR SPEEDERS EVEN THOUGH IT'S A SMALL SECTION AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE GATES AND THERE COULD WELL THAT COULD KNOCK DOWN YOUR PARK BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR PART. AND I KNOW THAT THE OLD RULE YOU ONLY NEED ONE ENTRANCE IN AND OUT OF THE AREA NOW SINCE WE HAVE THE TWO GUIDELINES WE WILL HAVE TO GET IN AND OUT BUT IF THEY PUT A GATE AT THE ONE PLACE HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET IN AND OUT? THAT NULLIFIES US FROM USING THAT SECTION SO THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS IS THE TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT I LAST ONE I GOT WAS BACK ON JANUARY 25TH AND I DIDN'T SEE MUCH ON IT. I WANT TO KNOW WAS HOW THE TRAFFIC WHAT TIME OF DAY IT WAS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE HAVE A SCHOOL BACK THERE AND GOD FORBID KNOW THOSE KIDS THEY FLY THEY FLY AND I KNOW THE BLUFFTON POLICE DEPARTMENT SENT BACK TOO MANY TIMES AND THEY'VE GIVEN TICKETS TO THE ISLANDS BUT AS HE WAS SAYING THERE NEEDS A TURNING LANE IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. I MEAN IT ONLY TAKES SECOND FOR SOMEBODY AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN QUITE A FEW ACCIDENTS ON THAT ROAD AND ALSO REACHING BACK OUT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN THERE. WE HAVE TO PAY FOR OUT OF OUR DUES.

WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. WHY IT GOING TO BE PUT ON US FOR THE TOTAL PLAGUE WHICH THEY HAVE NOW WHICH WILL GO TO THE H-2A? WHY ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE ROADS ARE THERE SIDEWALKS AND NOW WE HAVE A GRAVEL PATHWAY I GUESS OUT TO THE STREET. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE UPGRADED BE CONCERNED ABOUT NOW THEY'RE WILLING TO KNOCK OFF PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO AND MAKE THAT A SEPARATE UNIT THAT WOULD BE PERFECT THAT WOULD SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS EXCEPT FOR THE PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS BEING WITH DIRT AND DUST AND UNTIL THEY PAY THE ROADS THE OTHER THING I HAVE IS I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT AS FAST AS WE HAVE. WE ADDRESS SPEEDING WITH THE BLUFFTON POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH ALSO SIGNING UP WITH OUR PLAY OUR SHOW AND ALSO WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK IT STANDS THERE WE CAN'T WRITE TICKETS FOR SPEEDING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD AND WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT. BUT YOU KNOW IN THE MEANTIME WE HAVE ASKED THE DECLARANT WHICH THEY CALL OFTEN PARK FOR SPEED BUMPS AND WE'VE GOTTEN NO RESPONSE FOR THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO UNTIL WE HELP ME OUT I SAID OH IT'S CRUCIATE IT IS GLORIA MARTIN JONES BUT TO FIRE DRILLS THAT EVENING LAURA MARKOVICH 75 ROVER DRIVE AND ALSTON PARK COUPLE CONCERNS WHEN I WAS IN PHASE TWO I'M GOING TO PHASE TO

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WE WERE TOLD THESE WERE PREMIUM BECAUSE OF THE WOODS SO OUR MAJOR CONCERN THET THEY'RE GOINO BULLDOZE ALL THOSE TREES AND LEAVE US A STREET TO LOOK AT AND YOU KNOW, OTHER HOMES THAT WE WERE CONTRACTED FOR. SO THAT'S A MAJOR CONCERN ALSO I A NEIGHBOR BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS GOING AFFECT THE EQUITY OF OUR HOMES AND YOU KNOW, IF WE A ROAD BEHIND US WITHOUT ANY BUFFER LIKE ANY LIKE TRUE TREES AND WAS BEHIND US SO THAT'S A MAIN CONCERN I WOULD LIKE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BETWEEN OUR BACKYARDS AND THE ROAD AND BEYOND THE ROAD AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE BUY OUR HOMES IN GOOD FAITH KNOWING YOU KNOW, BELIEVING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE WOODED SPACE WHICH IS WHY WE PAID THE UPGRADE TO THE PREMIUM YOU KNOW, TO THE LOT.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE THEM TO ADDRESS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO FOR THAT YOU KNOW ESTHETICALLY YOU KNOW I REALLY KNOW OUR ROAD GOING, MY BACK YARD, YOU KNOW IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT I WANT SO I JUST DON'T WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT.

BUT FOR THE ESTHETICS AND FOR THE VALUE OF MY HOUSE I DON'T THINK YOU CARE MIKE WALK THROUGH. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY REALLY NICE TO COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT THIS FOR A LITTLE BIT ON I HAVE YOUR NAME AND LUCAS AND I LIVE IN 57 GATEWOOD LANE IN THE HAVEN THE HAVEN IS A UNIQUE AREA.

I FIND IT UNIQUE IN VIRTUALLY EVERY THE ENTIRE BORDER OF THE HAVEN IS IS A FOREST IT'S TREE IT'S AROUND THERE BUT THE RESIDENTS OF ROLLING RIVER BLACKSTONE RIVER AND IT'S VERY AND BAINBRIDGE THEY SIDE UP TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEY'RE THE CONCERNS THAT ARE THERE AND MANY OF MY FRIENDS THERE IS THAT THEY FOR 1213 YEARS THEY HAVE HAD QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THEIR PROPERTY WITH THE WOODS BACK THERE AND I ONLY SEE THE HOW YOU HAVE THE A BUFFER ZONE WE WOULD LIKE AND I BELIEVE EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE IT.

HOW DO YOU GIVE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO WHAT THE THEY'VE ALREADY HAD FOR 12, 15 YEARS NOW AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE DEVELOPER COMES IN TO BULLDOZE THAT AREA THAT THEY TAKE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF THE TREES THAT ARE THE BORDER THERE.

IT HAS BEEN HABITUAL FOR DEVELOPERS IN THIS AREA TO CLEARCUT EVERYTHING AND I YOU KNOW THE EXAMPLES I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THAT BUT THAT IS DONE IN A WAY AS BAD WE WANT TO WE WANT BETTER CONSIDERATION FOR THIS AREA THIS TIME AROUND WE RELY UPON YOU TO SEE TO IT THAT THAT HAPPENS OF I APPRECIATE THE TIME THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOU'RE VERY AN UNCLE THIS THANK YOU MY NAME IS GARY NUCKOLS. I LIVE AT 87 GROVE WOOD DRIVE ALSTON PARK AND OUR PRIMARY CONCERN IS ONE LIKE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER WE WERE TOLD THESE WERE PREMIUM LOTS AND THAT THE WE WOULD HAVE THE WOODED BUFFER AREA BETWEEN THE NEXT PHASE DEVELOPED IN OURS AND NOW WE FIND WE NOT DON'T HAVE THAT UNLESS THERE MIGHT BE SOME STUPID TREES BUT OUR HOUSE IS NOW GOING TO BE SANDWICHED BETWEEN TWO TWO LANE ROADS HOLLY HILL LANE AND GROVE GROVELAND WHERE THE ONLY HOUSES IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO ROADS AND OUR PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING TO PLUMMET WITH THAT. I MEAN I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY CAN SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT AND JUST THE TRAFFIC ALONE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A TRAFFIC

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THANK YOU MARY DOT HI MY NAME IS MARIKA I LIVE AT 33 FENTON CIRCLE AND AUSTIN PARK.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THESE FOLKS HAVE THAT AROUND THE NO DOUBT ONE OF MY CONCERNS CAME UP AT AN EARLIER MEETING WHERE THE BUILDER TALKED ABOUT THE GATED PART OF THIS AND YET THESE 67 HOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN THERE, THEY'RE STILL PART OF ALLSTON PARK.

WHY MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHY IS THAT SECTION NEEDING TO BE GATED AWAY FROM THE REST OF FALLS AND PARK BUT YEAH THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO USE OUR POOL OUR GYM THEY CAN COME OUT BUT WE CAN GO IN I DON'T SEE THE PURPOSE OF GATING THAT ONE SECTION OF WHAT IS SUPPOSED BE A TOTAL DEVELOPMENT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT HOW A HILL LANE BEING PAVED THAT FILLS ONE OF MY PROBLEMS FROM BEFORE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT BEING GRAVEL AND EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY AT ONE POINT AND WE NEED IT FOR ADDING THIS MANY MORE HOUSES AND WE NEED TO ACCESS AT LEAST IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND THEY DECIDED TO EVACUATE THE SUBDIVISION ONE ROAD COMING OUT OF THAT FOR THAT MANY HOUSES IS RIDICULOUS.

YOU WOULDN'T EVERYBODY OUT IN A TIMELY MANNER IF THERE WAS A TRUE AMERICAN SAID SO BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY COULD TAKE THAT HOLLY HILL LANE AND MAYBE MOVE IT STRAIGHT OR FROM WHERE THEY'RE SAYING STREET A SHOULD THEY GO STRAIGHT OUT THAT WAY AND JUST DO AWAY WITH HOW THE YELLOW LANE ALL TOGETHER IS THE LIKE I SAID MY CONCERN IS THIS WHOLE GATED THING WE'VE HAD IT

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SO JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T DO THIS EVERY DAY, CAN YOU GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF DISTANCE FROM THE BACK OF THOSE PROPERTIES TO? HOLLY HILL LANE IS THAT ABOUT 50 FEET OR SO YOU HAVE THE BACK OF PROPERTY PROBABLY ABOUT A 20 FOOT BUFFER.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. IT'S 25 OFFERS A BULLSEYE, MR. MARKERS.

SORRY, SIR. SIR, IF WE DON'T WE DON'T TALK BACK AND I'M SORRY THAT DISTANCE. YES, I'M SORRY I HAD TO DOUBLE CHECK ON MY PLAN SO DAN AND I WILL MAKE IT EARLIER TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONE. OKAY.

HE'S GOING TO ZOOM IN RIGHT THERE. OKAY.

THIS IT PRETTY WELL WE KNOW THIS THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE IT IT RED DOT IS A 20 FOOT BUFFER SO THAT BE A VERY UNTOUCHED THEN IN THERE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT AWAY LINE AND RIGHT SO THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE IS APPROXIMATELY WHAT YOU SAY 2010 ANOTHER 21 SO 54 RIGHT CORRECT 6065 SO THAT LINE IS 30 FEET FROM THE CENTER OF THE ROAD, CORRECT? YEAH. NO 25 BUFFER AND SO NOTHING IS DISTURBED IN THOSE AREAS.

I DON'T YOU KNOW IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR IN THE PRESUMABLY THE BUFFERS UNTOUCHED BUT AS THE REST OF THE RIGHT AWAY THAT'S NOT PART OF THE STRAIGHT AND PATH GOING THING HAPPENING IN BETWEEN THAT YEAH THAT WOULD BE THE ROAD THEN THE DRAINAGE AND THE ON ONE SIDE THE TRAILER SO ARE THERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW TREES IN THAT AREA CURRENTLY ARTERIES COUNTRY WELL WELL THE MAJORITY OF THEM STAY OR GO IN NOT THE BUFFER BUT THE OTHER IN THE DRIVEWAY THE RIGHT ONE WILL HAVE TO GO FOR DRINKING SUCH YEAH I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT IT HAS OUTSIDE OF OUR OUR PROPERTY

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NONE OF THAT'S CHANGED. SO YOU'RE WORKING WITHIN YOUR BOUNDARIES CORRECT YEAH.

SO IF I COULD BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP DENSITY I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR I'M ASKING QUESTION OF STAFF IF I COULD THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN ASSIGNED WAY BACK WHEN 76 UNITS BY ROAD THE DEVELOPER CAN PUT IT IN THERE. THAT'S CORRECT. WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE PLAN OF THAT AND HISTORICALLY NOT TERRIBLY ONES FOR ANYBODY IN THE ROOM BUT THE DEVELOPER CAME IN AS CHANGE THAT THREE OR 400 LOTS AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN RIGHT AND THIS IS BACK TO THE ORIGINAL 76 WHICH HE ALREADY HAS. RIGHT.

SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ADDING OR SUBTRACTING ANY OF THAT. THAT'S CORRECT FOR THEM WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO COME IN WITH MORE DENSITY, THEY WANT TO NEGOTIATE IT SO THAT WE WORK OUT AT THE TIME OF GOVERNMENT WHAT THEY HAVE IN ORDER MAKE BUT THEY HAVE THESE THEY HAVE THESE RESIDENTIAL CREDITS FOR THE 76 WHEN THERE WERE SEVEN COME IN PREVIOUS I WASN'T HERE WITH THE TOWN AT AT THE TIME MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WENT TO NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE AND THAT NEVER CAME TO FRUITION FOR THE REQUESTS RICHARDSON MIGHT HELP WITH A MAP YES PLEASE GIVE US SOME LEGAL CLARIFICATION THANK. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR FOR THE AS AS ALWAYS FOLLOW THE RULES FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS LIBRARY SOMEWHERE THINK OF MELNICK BROOKS AND LA BRUCE ON HILTON HEAD AND. WE ARE HERE TO SERVE AS LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE COMMISSION BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THIS AND THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS ARE A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND IF I GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING AND WHY IT'S WHY YOUR FLEXIBILITY IS SOMEWHAT LIMITED SO I THINK FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, THE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS IS PART OF THE NEW RIVERSIDE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ALLOWED UNDER SOUTH CAROLINA LAW LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN ENTER THEM AND THEY ESSENTIALLY SAID AND TO PLACE THE ZONING RESTRICTIONS AT A SPECIFIC TIME SO THAT YOU HAVE VERY LIMITED FLEXIBILITY AND CHANCE TO AMEND THOSE DOWN THE LINE. SO WHEN THEY RIVERSIDE WAS BROUGHT IN THERE WAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DENSITY THAT WAS ALLOCATED THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY ALL OF RIVERSIDE FROM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY TO COMMERCIAL DENSITY WELL IT'S CALLED A CONCEPT PLAN IS GENERALLY OUT IN WHICH ADMINISTERED IN LARGE BLOCKS HERE'S THE RIVERSIDE HERE'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE AUSTIN HERE THE HERE'S THE ROAD AND THE TRAFFIC NETWORK BUT INDIVIDUAL LOTS AND INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENTS AREN'T FLESHED OUT AT THAT POINT AS EACH COMMUNITY COMES ALONG AND STARTS TO STARTS TO BEGIN THAT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WHAT YOU HAVE IS AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN AND THIS INITIAL MASTER PLAN IS DESIGNED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE FORM TO THESE COMMUNITIES AND WHAT IS PERMITTED BY THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN IS GOING TO BE SET BY THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE ZONING STANDARDS THAT WERE ADOPTED. SO FOR INSTANCE WITH OCEAN PARK AND THE WAY THE NEW RIVERSIDE

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SO AT THIS POINT WITH THE DENSITY YOU HAD THE 72 UNITS THAT THEY ARE ASSIGNED AND THEY HAD THAT BUY RIGHT. THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP 72 UNITS ON THEIR PROPERTY PROVIDED THEY MEET ALL OF ALL THE OTHER ZONING RESTRICTIONS WITH HOLLY HILL LANE OBVIOUSLY THAT IS THAT WAS SET IN MOTION YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AGO AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THIS REQUIREMENT THAT THE SUPPORT BE DONATED TO BE FOR COUNTY END OF THAT ROAD NETWORK BE THAT ACCESS TO THAT ASSET PARK BE ACCOMMODATED IF I CAN I JUST YOU KNOW THERE IS A OF COMMENT AND I KNOW THIS IS TOUGH FOR PLANNING.

KATHLEEN COMMISSIONER VOLUNTEER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE APPOINTED BY TOWN COUNCIL THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THESE ISSUES WHY THEY'RE THEIR EARS AS LATE AS THEY ARE SO MANY TIMES A MONTH BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THERE'S CERTAINLY CONSTRAINTS THAT KIND OF TIE THEIR HANDS IN WHAT THEY'RE ABLE DO. SO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT DEAL WITH THE YOU KNOW, THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OCEAN PARKS PHASE ONE AND TWO AND PHASE THREE, A LOT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE SET OUT AND DECLARATIONS AND COVENANTS THAT ARE BETWEEN THE PARTIES THE PROPERTY OWNERS IS A CONTRACTS BETWEEN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN ALL SUPPORT PHASE ONE AND TWO AND THEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE ASSOCIATION THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE LARGELY OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HOW YOU DEAL WITH HOW ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HOW THEY REACT THEIR NEIGHBORS OR HOW THEY RESPOND AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE THAT YOU CAN'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY TO CONDITION APPROVALS ON YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T DELEGATE THAT RIGHT THIRD PARTIES YOU CAN'T TELL A DEVELOPER THAT YOU TO GIVE THE APPROVALS OF YOUR NATURAL NEIGHBORS TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE THAT'S JUST UNDER UNDER SOUTH CAROLINA LAW. I CAN'T IT CAN'T BE DONE. THAT'S NOT MEANT TO DIMINISH OR MINIMIZE IN ANY WAY THE CONCERNS THAT WERE STATED. I THINK THERE IF THAT WASN'T REASONABLE AND I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT THERE NEEDS BE DISCUSSED BUT THIS MAY NOT BE THE FORUM SO. THE OTHER ISSUE IS WITH HOLLY HILL LANE AND IT'S DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR COUNTY STANDARDS. YES, THEY ARE.

THEY'RE AND ARE TRYING TO COVER A LOT VERY QUICKLY BUT PLANNING AIR COMMISSION IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I CAN JUST TAKE THAT WAS PARTICULARLY BROUGHT UP BY PUBLIC COMMENT BY THE APPLICANT OR BY STAFF. YEAH WE DON'T HAVE ANY I MEAN WE CAN'T WE ARE I KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IS A CONCERN WHETHER YOU A OR WHOEVER SOLD YOUR PROPERTY BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE PURVIEW OVER IT'S UNFORTUNATE BUT WE CAN'T ROLL OVER THAT AND THAT'S AGAIN THAT'S JUST THAT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT A PLANNING COMMISSION IS STATUTORILY DEFINED DUTIES ARE YOU KNOW THAT IS AGAIN A PRIVATE MATTER WITH WHOEVER SOLD THE LOT AND THE PURCHASER RIGHT? RIGHT. WAS ZONING YOU'RE UP THERE WITH THIS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A REQUIREMENT OF THIS THAT THAT PATHWAY COME ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF HOLIDAY HILL LANE ALL THE WAY TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE COMMUNITY WHICH HAS BEEN CIRCLE OR WE WOULD HAVE A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. I DON'T CARE. I MEAN THE DEVELOPERS SAY THAT KIND OF SHAPE FOR THE COUNTY I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL OR NOT. I DON'T CARE WHO PAYS FOR IT BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A REQUIREMENT OF THIS NOT INTERNAL TO THE COMMUNITY ALONG HOLLY HILL ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THIS BASIN CIRCLE, YES, I THINK THAT'S I I MEAN WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE TOWN COUNCIL SO I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO BE ABLE TO DO I JUST WANTED TO CHECK FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE IF YOU HAVE I THINK IT IS BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTIVITY REQUIREMENTS AND NEW RIVERSIDE AND THE THE NEW RIVERSIDE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CERTAINLY REQUIRING THAT THOSE PATHWAYS THAT WOULD BE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THIS THIS DEVELOPMENT BE BUILT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ROADWAY THAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED THAT WOULD MAKE PERFECT SENSE. WELL TO ME COMMERCIAL SERVICE TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO MAKE IT

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I AGREE. ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE A REASONABLE REQUEST GIVEN THE THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE'VE HEARD AND I THINK YOU AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THAT TURN LANE AND WHEN WHEN WAS THIS TRAFFIC STUDY AND HOW DID THEY DETERMINE THE I MEAN IT SERVES AN INITIAL TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME SO WITH THIS APPLICATION WAS A SIMILAR TYPE OF IMPACT ANALYSIS BASED ON THE TERMS BEING GENERATED HERE THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET BARRIERS WITHIN WITHIN MONTHS AND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF IT WAS PARKING THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO SOUTHBOUND LANES ON THE RIVERSIDE ROAD RIGHT NOW SO SO THERE WAS NOT A RECOMMENDATION TO CREATE A DEDICATED DEDICATED RIGHT TURN AWAY AND GO ON ONTO HOLLY HILL LANE AND AND THE IDEA THAT ANYBODY THAT SLOWING DOWN TO MAKE THAT TURN ON THE HOLLY HILL LANE THEY HAVE ANOTHER DRIVER BEHIND THEM CAN CAN SWITCH LANE TO GO PAST THEM I I SEE IT AS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY STANDARD IN TRAFFIC IMPACT IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION LIKE AT MIDPOINT FOR INSTANCE BECAUSE IT'S A TWO LANE RIGHT IT PINCHES AT THAT POINT AND THERE'S A SCHOOL THERE AND THERE IS A SCHOOL BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE.

YEAH. RICHARDSON JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION.

I KNOW IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY THE DEVELOPER WHEN HE HAD BACKYARDS BACKING UP TO A ROAD ENDED UP PUTTING UP A WOODEN FENCE OF SORT OF BARRIER IS THAT BEYOND OUR PURVIEW ALSO IT'S NOT ON THIS PROPERTY THAT'S I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND.

BUT AGAIN IT'S THE DEVELOPER AND. YOU KNOW COULD THAT BE A REQUEST THAT WE MAKE OF THE DEVELOPER FOR SO THOSE SORTS OF REQUESTS HAVE BEEN MADE A NUMBER OF TIMES AND HAVE BEEN HONORED A NUMBER OF TIMES BECAUSE OF SIMILAR CONCERNS.

I KNOW THAT THEY THERE'S A IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THERE'S A COMMUNITY IN OLD TOWN THAT WAS RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED AND THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT THE IN THAT COMMUNITY AND HOW WILL IT IMPACT AN ADJACENT ONE AND OVER ITS REACH SO THAT A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS WERE MINIMIZE THEY WEREN'T THEY WEREN'T COMPLETELY ERADICATED BUT THEY DID WHATEVER THEY COULD TO KIND OF IS A THOSE NEIGHBORS TENSIONS OVER THAT OVER THE COMMUNITY IT CERTAINLY WOULD MAKE SENSE IN THIS CASE WHERE YOU KNOW AT THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN LEVEL IT MAY BE A LITTLE LITTLE DETAILED TO ADD EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE THERE IMPLIED AND THIS IS ONLY ONE PART THE NEXT PART WILL BE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO GET APPROVED AND I WOULD IMAGINE MANY OF THESE SAME CONCERNS WOULD BE RAISED. OFTENTIMES YOU HAVE MORE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND DICTATING WHAT'S DONE WITH THOSE PROPERTIES DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. ALL RIGHT. SO A WELL THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A LONG ANSWER. SHORT ANSWER IS I CERTAINLY THINK YOU CAN INCLUDE IT WITHIN YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. THE TOWN COUNCIL AND I THINK IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE WISE AND OF THE DEVELOPER TO STRONGLY CONSIDER ADDING THAT PRIOR TO PRIOR TO GOING TO TOWN COUNCIL OR AT LEAST BEING READY TO COMMIT TO THAT WHEN THEY GO TOWN COUNCIL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR DAN AND HOLLY HELENE AFTER IT'S CONSTRUCTED WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE THAT COUNTY THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THAT ROAD SO PALMETTO BLUFF OWNS THE ROAD AND THE CRESCENT RESOURCES OKAY SO ALL RIGHT SOUTH STREET YEAH . I THINK THEY MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR THE GENTLEMAN MR. LUCAS FROM THE HAVEN. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO JUST ADDRESS HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE CLEARING OF TREES OR THE CLEARING OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE BUFFER ADJACENT TO THE HAVEN WHICH IS AS YOU KNOW PRIMARILY WETLANDS AND A WETLAND BUFFER THAT CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT THE

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SO FROM A RESIDENTIAL LOT TO RESIDENTIAL LINE BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS IS IS 225 FEET AND THAT'S THE CLOSEST THE REST OF THEM GET FURTHER TO 300 300 PLUS FEET SO SO IT'S A GOOD DISTANCE WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL FINAL PLANNING COMES IN EXACTLY WHAT TREE SALES THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. ONE THING WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE DEVELOPER TO DO TO SHIFT THIS ISN'T SPECIFIC TO YOUR REQUEST BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HIM SHIFT A FEW LOT TO HERE AND HAVE THIS OPERATION RELOCATED OVER HERE AND IT'LL SAVE SOME TREES THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE TREE PLANNING THAT SAY I'M GLAD TO DID THAT CAN THEY CLEAR THE WETLAND OR THE WETLAND BUFFER CAN THE DEVELOPER DO THAT ANYWHERE IN THE WETLAND AND WETLAND BUFFER CAN THE DEVELOPER CLAIM? I DON'T THINK THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT EITHER. I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT CAN OR CAN'T BE DONE AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY CAN FILL THE TIME OF THE WETLAND.

I WHY WANT TO DO THAT IN ORDER FOR THEM THAT WE DON'T SERVE ANY WELL I'M SORRY FOR THAT NO DISTURBANCE NO DISTURBANCE TO THE WETLANDS THE WETLAND BUFFER .

YEAH, GO AHEAD RICHARD. SO I HEARD I HEARD MURMURS MEMBERS OF THE ABOUT COVENANTS OR AND COVENANTS AROUND THE RIVERSIDE NOT A LOT CERTAIN AS TO WHAT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THESE WETLANDS ARE DELINEATED IN THOSE COVENANTS BUT I WOULD PRESUME IT'S IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL OF IT ALSO ANY TIME THAT YOU'RE DISTURBING WETLANDS IT'S IT'S A PROCESS THAT IT'S YOU CAN'T JUST GO THERE AND CLEARCUT OVER FILM THERE'S A THERE'S A PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME STATE REGULATORY AGENCIES AS WELL AS THROUGH THE TOWN.

SO THEY WILL IN ORDER TO DO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE CORRECT IF THEY WANTED TO TAKE OUT A WETLAND AND DO ANY DEVELOPMENT IF THEY WANTED TO SHOW ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THE WETLAND THAT'S NOT SCHEDULED THIS MASTER PLAN WHICH IS NOT AT THE MOMENT THEN YES THEY WOULD NEED TO COME AND GET AN AMENDMENT OF THAT MASTER PLAN WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THEY COME TO YOU AND THEN GO BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL AND IN ADDITION TO THE REGULATORY THAT WOULD HAVE TO ALSO APPROVE IT YOU'RE BACK RIGHT THE PROCESS FOR THIS SO WE DO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM HERE IT GOES TO TOWN COUNCIL REGARDLESS OF OUR RECOMMENDATION LET'S JUST MAKE AN ASSUMPTION HERE A TOWN APPROVES THIS MASTER PLAN WHEN IT COMES BACK UP FOR DEVELOPMENT IT GO THROUGH STAFF AND THEN COME TO US OR DOES IT JUST GO THROUGH IT JUST GOES THROUGH STAFF AND THERE'S RIGHT WHERE IT IS AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION I JUST WAS CURIOUS ABOUT COMING BACK HERE. IT DOES NOT COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE IT'S A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE RIVERSIDE THAT WHEN ANOTHER LEGAL QUESTION ARE WE BE WOULD IT BE WITHIN OUR WOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AT EVENTS AT THE PROPERTY LINE OF HOLLY HILL LANE WHERE ABOUTS UP TO THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND SO ON YOUR OFFER THAT WAS THE THING THAT'S THE POINT I'M THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION HE WAS ASKING ABOUT AND IT REMINDS I TAKE IT BACK I YOU SAID YES WE CAN MAKE THAT A SUGGESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER TO CONSIDER. YEAH I THINK SO AND I THINK YOU GIVE TOWN COUNCIL THE ABILITY BECAUSE IT'S IN TOWN COUNCIL IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY THAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES IN TOWN COUNCIL AS A YOU KNOW AN OPTION THAT THEY WANT TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU KNOW I THINK THEY'RE ON THE PATH WHERE ATTORNEY OKAY WE DON'T HAVE ANY THING ELSE THAT WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THEN DOES ANYONE WANT TO GO MAKE A MOTION? OH I JUST ONE MORE ONE MORE COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE BECAUSE THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE PERIOD ON THE TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT.

I DON'T I THINK THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS LOOKING AT THAT I THINK THAT WAS MR. LATCHFORD I'M SORRY. I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT JUST IN CASE YOU DO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE KIMBERLY HALL REPORT IT STARTS DETAILING OUT PROBABLY ATTACHMENT FOR ITS PAGE 29 OF OUR PUT ON PACKAGE IT'S A FEW PAGES INTO THE REPORT IT DOES DETAIL OUT WHEN THEY

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AND I JUST READ THE REPORTS THAT EIGHT 2023 AND THE ANALYSIS DONE THE TRAVIS ACCOUNTS WERE DONE ON JANUARY 10TH OF THIS YEAR AND I'M SURE BASED ON THE YOU KNOW, I TRY PREDICT WHICH I'LL DO TO HELP OUT BUT IF LOOK AT TOWN STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN VALIDATE THE MASTER PLAN AND SHOW THAT'S ALL PATHWAY 18 WITH WITHIN THE HOLLY HILL WHEN BASED OFF OF MR. WENTWORTH'S COMMENTS I PRESUME YOU WANT TO INCLUDE A REFERENCE TO THAT BEING ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF HOLIDAY LANE AND CERTAINLY YES.

YES. AND THEN THE COUNTY SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE IT WE DON'T NEED TO ADD THAT BECAUSE IT DOES SOUND A LITTLE USING I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT WHO PAYS FOR IT. WE JUST NEED TO AGREE AND THEN THE FIRST STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE CONSTRUCTION OF HOLLOW HILL LANE I THINK AND YOU CAN EITHER ADD A SEPARATE RECOMMENDATION AS OF NOVEMBER FIVE OR PERHAPS PUT IN MR. DAWES RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE FENCE AND TO RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE. I THINK HE SHOULD MAKE THE MOTION BECAUSE ALL RIGHT, I MOVE THAT THE RATE OF CREW THAT WE RECOMMEND TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE ALSTON PARK PHASE THREE INITIAL MASTER PLAN WITH THE FOUR CONDITIONS THAT STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED WITH THE ADDITIONS THAT WE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE THE THE PATH BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HILL AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER CONSIDER A BARRIER OR FENCE OF SOME SORT BACKING UP TO THE LOTS THAT ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HOLLY HILL LANE.

AND BEFORE WE GET TO SECOND JUST SO I CAN MAKE SURE AND I REMOVAL OF THE VIEW FOR COUNTY SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE PATHWAY I ACCEPT THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE THAT SENTENCE THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE PATHWAY AND CLARIFY THAT THE PATHWAY GOES TO THE CIRCLE IF YOU DON'T MIND AND THEN HAPPENS TO THE DOCUMENT AND THE PATHWAY IS GOING TO BE TO THE CIRCLE AND CIRCLE PENNINGTON CIRCLE ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IMPLEMENTATION SO WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MOTION. SO IF I MAY GET A CHAIR IF I MAY SAY IT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE CLAIMANT IS THANKING US.

SO THIS IS AN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OF SUPPORT. PHASE THREE INITIAL MASTER PLAN COMMISSIONER DOUG HAS MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH IT THE CONDITIONS THAT AND THE STAFF REPORT IS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING REVISIONS THAT AS TO NUMBER ONE THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL WORK WITH OR THAT THE DEVELOPER CONSIDER A BUFFER OR FENCE ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO PROVIDE SCREENING FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND ALSO PART OF PHASE PHASE ONE OR TWO THE AMENDMENTS AND THREE THE REMOVAL OF THE FOUR COUNTY SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE PATHWAY WITH THE ADDITION OF A REQUIREMENT THAT THE ASPHALT IN THE HOLYHEAD LANE BUFFER BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE HOLLY LANE ENRON ALL THE WAY TO THE ENCIRCLE DO I HAVE SECOND? DO I HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. I WANT IT ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE PLEASE SHOW TOWN COUNCIL YES. SORRY WE CAN'T REALLY DO MUCH ABOUT THE DEVELOPER AGREE TO THAT. OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FOLKS FOR SOME OF WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR MEETING COULDN'T BE IN ABOUT THREE OR 4 HOURS. OKAY. DO

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