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          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. 
          I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR ATTENDING OUR BUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE RETREAT. 
          IT'S REALLY, UH, A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU ALL HERE, PARTICULARLY THE OUR D O T MEMBERS AS WELL. 
          TO START THE THINGS OFF, I'M GONNA PASS AROUND. 
          MY NAME'S CRAIG GORDON. 
          FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M GONNA PASS A TABLET AROUND AND I'D ASK YOU TO PUT YOUR NAME AND YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS ON IT. 
          AND THE REASON FOR DOING THAT IS, UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE BENEFIT OF GETTING CEU CREDIT FOR THIS, FOR THOSE THAT NEED IT. 
          SO BY SIGNING IN EMAIL ADDRESS, YOU'LL GET A CE CREDIT FOR IT. 
          UM, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA ASK IT, AND I'M GONNA START OVER HERE. 
          I'M GONNA GO AROUND IN THE ROOM AND HAVE EVERYBODY INTRODUCE THEMSELVES SO YOU CAN WAVE AT EACH OTHER. 
          JENNY, UH, I AND I DO HAVE A BACKGROUND PLAN. 
          COUNTRY COUNSELING, GOVERNMENT LABS, STEPHANIE , UH, BRIAN. 
          I REPRESENT DISTRICT TRANSPORTATION MAINTENANCE, DISTRICT ADMINISTRATOR, DISTRICT CONSTRUCTION, DISTRICT OFFICER NAME. 
          I'M THE COMMITTEE. 
          I REPRESENT DISTRICT COUNCIL, DISTRICT SIX. 
          UH, JIM BECKER COMMITTEE REPRESENTING DISTRICT, COUNTY COUNCIL, DISTRICT SIX COMMITTEE CONSTRUCTION DIRECTOR, ENGINEER HILTON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THE VISION FOR TODAY WAS TO EX GET, HAVE A BROADER EXPOSURE TO THE TYPES OF PAVEMENT AND THE TYPES OF PAVEMENT PRESERVATION TECHNIQUES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE USING IN THE YEARS AHEAD. 
          IN PARTICULAR, WHEN YOU LOOK AT BEAUFORT COUNTY, WE'VE TAKEN, UH, OUR COUNTY ROAD NETWORK FROM HAVING ROADS THAT WERE VERY POOR. 
          IN FACT, WHEN WE STARTED, IT WAS LIKE SIX MILES OF VERY POOR FIVE YEARS AGO TO HAVING NONE TODAY THAT ARE VERY POOR. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA FIND OURSELVES USING MORE PRESERVATION TECHNIQUES. 
          AND I THOUGHT THE TWO GENTLEMEN, THEY'RE GONNA BE HERE TALKING BY PRESERVATION TECHNIQUES, PRETTY MUCH THE GOSPEL, WHAT'S GOING TO, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IN, IN THE COMING YEARS. 
          SO, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE TIM HERBS. 
          HE'S WITH SLATE SOLAR PAPERS, TIM, AND PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, EVEN THOUGH ON TV, I HOPE THIS IS VERY INFORMAL. 
          SO, UM, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME IN TODAY AND, AND TO SPEAK AND TO, UH, SHARE THE GOSPEL ON, ON PAVEMENT PRESERVATION. 
          AND, UH, I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF AND, AND SOME THINGS YOU HAVEN'T YET BECAUSE OF, UH, NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE STRIVING TO, UM, IMPART ON OUR, OUR PRODUCTS TO MAKE IT, UH, A MORE USABLE PRODUCT FOR THE D O T AS WELL AS LOCAL AGENCIES, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR REGION. 
          SO, UM, MS. MR. GORDON SAID, MY NAME'S TIM HERBST. 
          I'M WITH SLURRY PAVERS. 
          I'VE JUST BEEN WITH THE COMPANY FOR ABOUT A YEAR, BUT I'VE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS. 
          I CUT MY TEETH IN OHIO, UM, WORKING FOR, UM, A GLOBAL COMPANY UP WAS OUT WEST FOR A WHILE IN, UH, I'M BACK HERE WHERE I LOVE HUMIDITY AND, AND CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF IT. 
          SO, UM, PROUD TO BE HERE. 
          AND, UH, WE'LL GET STARTED. 
          UH, THE WAY THIS IS GONNA GO IS THAT KIND OF TAKE A ROAD FROM WOMB TO TOMB, UH, ON WHAT WE SHOULD DO, UH, AT CERTAIN INTERVALS. 
          AND THEN BASED ON, ON, UM, DATA THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE WITH YOUR PAVEMENT RATING SYSTEM, UH, YOU SHOULD BE EMPLOYING CERTAIN PRACTICES THAT WE'RE 
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GONNA TALK ABOUT. 
          UM, THE OLD ADAGE, A LONG WAY TO GO, SHORT TIME TO GET THERE IS, IS TRUE FOR THIS PRESENTATION. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF SLIDES. 
          UM, BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ASK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT'S ALWAYS A GREAT START. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CLICK FOR ME. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, TO TALK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND, AND, AND TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE. 
          I THINK WE FIRST HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE PAST, THE FIRST MODERN ROAD, UH, WITH OUS PRODUCTS. 
          ASPHALT, AS WE KNOW, IT WAS INSTALLED IN PARIS IN 1824. 
          UH, THE FIRST MODERN ROAD IN THE UNITED STATES WAS IN NEWARK, NEW JERSEY, AROUND THE 1870S, UH, AND THEN WHATEVER TO WASHINGTON DC. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE IT GREW, UM, 90%. 
          I'VE SEEN SOME FACTS. 
          UP TO 96% OF ALL US ROADS ARE PAVED TO THE TUNE OF 2.3 MILLION MILES, UH, WITH ASPHALT, THE REMAINING PERCENTAGE OR SURFACE WITH CONCRETE. 
          UM, BUT IT'S KIND OF NOT UNFATHOMABLE TO HERE, OR, OR EVEN TO TRY TO THINK ABOUT. 
          BUT ONLY HALF OF OUR ROADS IN THE UNITED STATES ARE, ARE ACTUALLY PAVED WITH SOME SORT OF TREATMENT. 
          THE REST ARE EITHER DIRT OR GRAVEL OR SOMETHING ELSE. 
          UM, WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO, UH, BUT AS MR. GORDON INDICATED, PRESERVATION IS GONNA HELP US GET THERE. 
          UM, WITH TODAY'S PRICES, YOU KNOW, WITH MICROSURFACING, YOU CAN THINK ABOUT A THREE TO A THREE AND A HALF MILE COVERAGE WITH THAT PARTICULAR PRODUCT COMPARED TO AN INCH AND A HALF OF MILL FILL FOR ONE MILE. 
          SO, BUT WE HAVE TO PUT THINGS ON THE RIGHT ROAD, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT. 
          UM, IN 1987, UH, THERE WAS A GROUP DESIGNED BY CONGRESS CALLED SHARPER THE STRATEGIC HIGHWAY RESEARCH PROGRAM. 
          AND THEY BASICALLY TASKED THIS GROUP WITH, UM, THEY WANTED THEM TO FIND OUT WHY OUR ROADS WERE DETERIORATING AS QUICKLY AS THEY, THEY WERE. 
          AND OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, THEY GAVE 'EM 150 MILLION FOR THIS RESEARCH INITIATIVE. 
          UM, AND BASICALLY, I'LL SHOW YOU THE RESULTS HERE, BUT IN 1987, WHEN THIS WAS, UH, WAS STARTED, THE NOMENCLATURE FOR ASPHALT WAS, UH, WHAT WE CALL AC, AC 10, AC 15. 
          AC 20 HAS TO DO WITH HOW SOFT OR HARD THE ASPHALT IS. 
          CALL THE PIN NUMBER, UM, IN OUR NECK OF THE WOODS HERE IS PROBABLY AROUND AC 20 AND PIN DYE 60 TO 70. 
          HOW HARD OR SOFT WAS IT? OKAY, SO WE WANT THE, THE PAVEMENTS HARDER. 
          WE HAVE HIGH TEMPERATURE, WE WANT THEM SOFTER WHERE THERE'S COLD TEMPERATURE. 
          AND SO AFTER SHARP DID THEIR, UM, RESEARCH, AND WE MOVED THIS NOMENCLATURE TO WHAT WE KNOW TODAY AS PG GRADE OR PERFORMANCE GRADE ASPHALTS CHAMPIONED BY THE SUPER PAVED EFFORT. 
          SO NOW WE KNOW IN THIS REGION WE ARE A 64 MINUS 22, AND THAT BASE IS THE HIGH TEMPERATURE IN CELSIUS OVER A SEVEN DAY PERIOD AT 64, AND THE LOW TEMPERATURE OF MINUS 22. 
          SO IN MICHIGAN, WE'D GO TO 58 CUZ IT'S COOLER. 
          UH, FLORIDA, YOU'D WANT TO SEE A 70 OR A 76. 
          THE CUZ IT HAS HARDER PAVEMENT AND IT'S HARDER TO DEF MAKE WHEN IT'S MODIFIED. 
          SO IF YOU'RE EVER WONDERING IF YOU HAVE A MODIFIED ASPHALT, YOU ADD THE TWO NUMBERS TOGETHER. 
          A 64 AND 22, THEY CALL IT THE RULE OF 90. 
          IT IS LESS THAN 90, SO IT'S NON-MODIFIED. 
          70 MINUS MINUS 22 IS 92. 
          SO THAT IS MODIFIED. 
          SO IF YOU EVER WONDERED IF YOU'RE GETTING A MODIFIED ASPHALT OR NOT, GO BY THE NUMBERS. 
          YES. 
          UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA LOOSELY DESIGN, UH, THIS, THIS, UH, PRESENTATION IS DESIGNED AROUND A PAYMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. 
          AND SO IN TALKING WITH BRIAN AND THE COUNTY HERE, UH, THEY'RE DUE TO HAVE THEIR ROADS, UH, REEVALUATED. 
          SO KNOWING WHAT VALUE, UM, YOUR ROADS COME IN AT, AND THIS IS SORTED BEST TO WORSE, GREEN FOR RED, THERE ARE CERTAIN SET OF PRINCIPLES THAT ARE APP APPLI APPLICABLE WITHIN EACH, UH, COLOR DESIGNATION. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA START OFF AT THE TOP WITH REJUVENATOR, WHICH KEN'S GONNA TALK ABOUT PRAX SEAL, AND THEN EVOLVE INTO, UH, MICRO SERVICING AND, AND CAPE SEALS, WHICH YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT HERE IN THIS, IN THIS PARTICULAR COUNTY. 
          THERE'S A, UM, A WONDERFUL WEBSITE CALLED ROAD RESOURCE.ORG THAT WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR RATINGS, YOU CAN GO IN AND PLUG THOSE RATINGS INTO THIS, UH, UH, THIS WEBSITE, AND IT'LL SPIT OUT WHAT PROCESSES ARE APPLICABLE WITHIN THAT RANGE, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT. 
          SO IN THE END, YOU CAN COMPARE IN CONTRAST 
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PAVEMENT PRESERVATION TECHNIQUES TO WHICH YOU TRADITIONALLY HAVE DONE WITH MILLING AND FILLING, RIGHT? SO, UH, THE GRAY, WE START OUT AT A AND THE GRAY FALLS TO F AND WE RESURFACE, RIGHT? IT GOES UP TO A AND FALLS. 
          SO IF WE DO THOSE FOUR TIMES, AND THESE NUMBERS ARE ANTIQUATED BECAUSE THE SLIDE IS OLD, BUT, UM, IT'S SHOWING THAT THOSE FOUR DIFFERENT OVERLAYS COST AROUND 205 MILLION. 
          YOU CAN PROBABLY DOUBLE THAT NOWADAYS BECAUSE OF WHAT COSTS ARE. 
          BUT IF YOU AT CERTAIN INTERVALS KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONDITION IS IN SUCH A, UH, AT SUCH A RATING, WE'RE GONNA PUT DOWN A REJUVENATION. 
          WE'RE GONNA PUT DOWN A CRACK SEAL, AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT CURVE HIGH AND WE'RE SPENDING A HECK OF A LOT LESS. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT, DOING THINGS AT THE RIGHT TIME, MAXIMIZING LIFE. 
          WE'RE NOT A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT OF MONEY COMPARATIVELY. 
          WE'RE ALWAYS MONITORING THE, UM, ASPHALT COSTS. 
          AND IF YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM NUMBER OF DECEMBER, 2020, IT WAS $381, A LIQUID TON OF ASPHALT. 
          WE PEAKED IN AUGUST AT 22 AT $761. 
          SO IT'S DOUBLED. 
          UH, WE'VE HAD SOME DOWNTURNS, MEANING THE PRICES COME DOWN PAST COUPLE MONTHS. 
          UM, FEBRUARY CAME DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT AGAIN. 
          BUT AS WE'VE SEEN WITH OUR ASPHALT PRICES, UH, ASPHALT OR EXCUSE SEEN WITH OUR GAS PRICES, ASPHALT PRICES ARE GONNA GO BACK UP IN MARCH. 
          SO I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE GONNA GO ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO THE 700 NUMBERS, BUT, UM, IT IS GOING TO TICK BACK UP. 
          AND WE CAN SEE HERE THAT, UH, FOR COST SAKE, IF WE'RE SPENDING 110 A TON, 115 TON, 120 A TON, UH, IF YOU, UH, TAKE IT FOR A MILE AT 20 FEET WIDE, UH, AT AN INCH, INCH AND A HALF, TWO INCHES THICK IN THE RED, JUST TO KINDA SHOW YOU, WE'RE SPENDING A HECK OF A LOT OF MONEY FOR OUR ASPHALT. 
          AND SO I'LL SHOW YOU SOME THINGS HERE, UH, THAT CAN COMBAT THAT AND, AND GET US MORE MONEY, OR EXCUSE ME, MORE MILES FOR OUR MONEY. 
          BUT WHAT I THINK IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT IS ASPHALT AIR VOID CONTENT. 
          OKAY? A LOT OF STATES ARE, UH, NOTING THAT THEIR ASPHALT HAS BECOME TOO TIGHT. 
          THE DENSITY IS TOO HIGH. 
          OKAY? SO WHAT IS THE TRADE OFF? IT'S GOING TO CRACK EASILY. 
          SO KNOWING WHAT OUR AIR VOID CONTENT IS, WHICH WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO PROTECT BY DOING REJUVENATION, BY DOING MICROSURFACING, THAT IF IT'S LESS THAN 3%, IT MEANS IT'S TOO TIGHT. 
          THE PAVEMENT'S GONNA FLUSH, THE ASPHALT'S GONNA COME TO THE SURFACE, AND PREMATURE TRACK TRACKING IS GOING TO OCCUR. 
          IF IT'S MORE THAN 7%, IT'S TOO LOOSE. 
          SO IT'LL FALL APART EASIER. 
          UM, THE DURABILITY WILL GO DOWN, UH, AND RUNNING WILL OCCUR. 
          UH, THE MINUTE ASPHALT IS INSTALLED, UM, THE STOPWATCH STARTS, RIGHT? WE START TO ACCEPT WATER AND IT STARTS TO DISINTEGRATE. 
          SO OUR GOAL WITH THESE PRESERVATION TREATMENTS FROM THE TOP DOWN IS TO, TO NOT ELIMINATE, BUT TO DRASTICALLY MINIMIZE THAT INFILTRATION. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA START AT THE TOP OF THE, UH, OF THE PAVEMENT RATING SYSTEM. 
          UH, THE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WHERE OUR RATINGS ARE, ARE HIGH, NEWER ROADS WHERE CRACK SEAL AND REJUVENATION, UH, WOULD BE APPLICABLE. 
          APPLICABLE. 
          WE HAVE NEW ROADS, UH, STILL STRUCTURALLY SOUND ROADS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WOULD MAKE SENSE TO SEAL UP. 
          AND THEN WE START TO SEE SOME, UH, LEAVING OF THE FINES AND THE ASPHALT BY MOTHER NATURE IS JUST LEAVING US. 
          WE NEED TO SEAL THOSE BACK UP. 
          BUT FIRST, TALK ABOUT CRACK SEAL. 
          UM, I THINK A VERY UNDERUTILIZED TOOL, UH, THE WAY IT'S PUT DOWN HERE IS IN AN OVER BAND, UM, FASHION. 
          AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT WE JUST DON'T LIKE THE LOOK OF CRACK SEAL. 
          IT SERVES A VERY IMPORTANT PURPOSE. 
          AND I'LL SHOW YOU THROUGH SOME STUDIES HOW, BY USING IT AT THE RIGHT TIME, YOU CAN GET A BIGGER BANG FOR YOUR BUCK. 
          UM, THE TYPICAL CRACK SEAL OPERATION, WE HAVE TWO, UH, APPLICATORS IN THE BACK. 
          WE HAVE A CONVEYOR LOADING THE, UM, LOADING THE PRODUCT INTO THE KETTLE FOR MAXIMIZED SAFETY. 
          BLOWING OUT THE, THE CRACK IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          WE HAVE COMPRESSED AIR ON THE FRONT END. 
          UH, WE'LL DO HAVE TO DO ANY VEGETATION REMOVAL, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE A WATER TRUCK BEHIND THAT TO COOL IT DOWN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN GET TRAFFIC BACK ON IT. 
          YOU KNOW, UH, WITHIN THE SPEC IT SAYS WE GOTTA COVER A CRACK FROM A QUARTER TO AN INCH WIDE. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN A CRACK SEAL PROGRAM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, UH, AND THE CRACK WIDTH IS GONNA BE ABOUT FOUR INCHES. 
          SO TWO INCHES ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT CRACK, UH, AND THE THINNER THE BETTER. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOR COVERAGE. 
          UM, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF PAY ITEMS IN THESE STATES FOR, UH, CRACK SEAL BECAUSE THEY'RE BY THE POUND WHO'S GONNA WIN AND PUTTING CRACK SEAL DOWN THE CONTRACTOR. 
          AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A BUNCH OF RUMBLE STRIPS OUT THERE. 
          WE WANT IT AS 
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THIN AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE FOLLOWING IT WITH A MICROSERVICE IN AT CHIP SEAL, WHICH IS THIN IN ITSELF. 
          YOU DON'T WANNA FEEL THAT EMBOSSMENT UP THROUGH IT. 
          TYPICAL POUNDAGE INSTALLED. 
          UM, A LOT OF LOCAL AGENCIES SAY, WE'RE GONNA GO OUT AND CRACK SEAL OURSELVES, AND THEY NEVER GET BACK TO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE PULLED AWAY FOR A MOWING EVENT OR A FESTIVAL'S GOING ON, OR A DEER'S BEEN HIT. 
          THESE GUYS FROM THE END OF MARCH TILL NOVEMBER, THIS IS WHAT THEY PUT DOWN PER, PER DAY. 
          AND THAT AMOUNT OF SQUARE YARDS PER DAY IS REALLY, UH, ENTICING TO AN AGENCY TO GET TAKEN CARE OF WITH THIS VERY IMPORTANT TOOL. 
          THESE ARE NOT CRACK SEAL CANDIDATES, SORRY TO SAY. 
          SO WE DON'T WANNA SEE THAT. 
          UM, IF THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT, A, UH, A PARTICULAR, UM, ISOLATED EVENT WITHIN A ROAD THAT'S CRACK SEALABLE, I WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, CUTTING THAT OUT AND REPLACING IT WITH ASPHALT. 
          THESE ARE GREAT CANDIDATES. 
          WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, EITHER IN A STANDALONE APPLICATION OR PRIOR TO A MICROSURFACING. 
          I ENCOURAGE CRACK SEAL BEFORE MICROSURFACING. 
          ALL RIGHT? THIS IS A GREAT PICTURE OF THE, THE VOIDS BEEN BLOWN OUT. 
          THE OVER BAND'S GOING ON TOP AND THIS SUBSEQUENT OVERLAY WILL FOLLOW WHAT HAS NOT HAPPENED HERE. 
          THEY DID NOT BLOW OUT THE CRACK. 
          IT'S WET, IT'S FULL OF DEBRIS, AND IT'S PULLED UP BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD BOMB. 
          WE WANNA ENSURE THAT THAT CRACK IS CLEANED BEFORE THE INSTALLATION OF THE PRODUCT. 
          WE DON'T WANT TOO MUCH CRACK SEAL BECAUSE IT CAN BE SLICK AND, AND, AND VERY UNSAFE FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR MOTORCYCLE RIDERS. 
          WHAT WOULD YOU DO HERE? I GOT CALLED OUT. 
          THIS IS A TOWN IN, IN, UH, NORTH CAROLINA. 
          AND, UH, THE PAVEMENT SECTIONS ARE IN EXCELLENT SHAPE, BUT THEIR CRACKS ARE, ARE REALLY WIDE AND, AND, AND, AND VOYAGE. 
          UM, I WOULD, THEY WANTED ME TO PUT MICROSURFACING ON THIS. 
          MY ANSWER'S NO, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MUCH FAILURE WITHIN THAT JOINT. 
          THEY'VE ALREADY TRIED TO CRACK SEAL AT ONCE. 
          IT'S VERY HIGH ON EITHER SIDE, AND THEY DIDN'T FILL UP THE, THE CAVITY, AND IT IS STILL A PROBLEM. 
          SO WE WANT TO GET TO THAT CRACK BEFORE, UM, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PARTICULAR, UH, CONDITION ARISES. 
          THIS IS THE END RESULT OF FILLING THOSE CRACKS AND THEN PUTTING MICROSURFACING OVER THE TOP OF IT. 
          IT REFLECTS BACK THROUGH. 
          AND THEN THE, THE, THE TRAVELING PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW WHY. 
          ALL RIGHT? WE NEED TO GET THOSE, UH, TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE IT GETS TO THAT, THAT WIDTH BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD PRETREATMENT FOR, FOR THE, UH, THE MICRO SERVICING. 
          AND HERE'S A SUMMARY I TALKED ABOUT, UH, THOSE WHO CONDUCT PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT SURVEYS OR ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT AT RATE ROADS, UM, MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN THIS BEFORE. 
          I, I SHOWED THEM THIS REPORT THAT CAME OUT OF OHIO, UH, DONE BY IN-FRAME ENGINEERING OUTTA CINCINNATI. 
          THAT BY CRACK SEALING A ROAD, YOU'RE GONNA INCREASE YOUR PCR VALUE OR YOUR PAVEMENT CONDITION RATING TWO TO SEVEN POINTS, AND ON AVERAGE OF ABOUT FOUR, OKAY? SO JUST BY CRACK SEALING, YOU'RE GONNA IMPROVE YOUR NUMBER, UH, LIFE EXTENSION, THREE TO FIVE YEARS, UM, IN THE, THE VALUE, UH, BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK WHEN, UH, WHEN DO WE WANT TO DO THIS. 
          AND WHEN A PCR SINKS TO 60 TO 70 OPTIMALLY, UH, IS WHEN YOU'RE GONNA REALIZE, UH, THE INCREASE IN PCR VALUE AS WELL AS THE LIFE EXTENSION OF THREE TO FIVE YEARS. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE OUT OF CRACK SEAL AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON DOWN TO THE 85 TO 80 RANGE. 
          WE'RE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE APPROACHING A QUARTER OF THE LIFE OF THE, THE PAVEMENT IS GONE. 
          OKAY? SO WE'RE STILL A LITTLE BIT ON THE REJUVENATOR SIDE, WHICH KEN IS GONNA TALK ABOUT AROUND 85, DIPPING DOWN INTO THE MID EIGHTIES, DOWN TO 80. 
          UH, AND WE'RE REALLY GONNA START TO GET INTO MICROSURFACING. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE'RE APPLICABLE, UH, WHERE WE'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A CRACK ON THE LEFT, A LITTLE BIT MORE RANDOM CRACKING IN THE CENTER AND TO THE RIGHT WHERE IT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, GONE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN WE LIKE. 
          BUT THE CRACK STILL TOOK CARE OF THE VOIDS PRIOR TO THIS SUBSEQUENT OVERLAY. 
          UM, IT IS A, UH, S E D O T SPECIAL PROVISION. 
          UM, THE SPECIFICATION IS BEING REDONE AS WE SPEAK, UM, FOR SUBMISSION INTO THE NEW SPEC BOOK WHEN IT COMES OUT THIS JULY. 
          SO IT IS GOING TO BE A NEW SPECK WITH IMPROVED, UH, FEATURES TO IT, SPECIFICALLY TO THE AGGREGATES. 
          UM, THE D O T IS STUDIED, UH, IN OHIO, THIS TREATMENT, BUT THEY, OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD STUDIED THIN HOT MIX TREATMENTS, MEANING AN INCH AND A HALF AND LESS. 
          AND THEY, THEY WERE FOUND THAT THEY GOT, UH, NINE YEARS OUT OF THESE, UH, THIN ASPHALT TREATMENTS, AND THEY WERE SPENDING AROUND 66,000 A LANE MILE, UM, FOR THE THIN, THE THIN TREATMENTS. 
          SO THEY USED THAT AS A BENCHMARK. 
          UH, WHAT THEY WANTED TO KNOW IS HOW DOES THE MICRO SERVICING ON A SINGLE AND DOUBLE APPLICATION STACK UP AGAINST THEIR THIN OVERLAYS? THEY FOUND THAT THEY WERE SPENDING A HECK OF A LOT LESS, AND THIS IS FEEDBACK FROM THE DISTRICTS IN OHIO TO THE 
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CENTRAL OFFICE. 
          THEY GOT EIGHT YEARS OUT OF THEIR DOUBLE COURSE AND NINE YEARS OUT OF THEIR SINGLE COURSE PUT ON THE RIGHT ROAD, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT PUTTING IT ON FAILED ROADS. 
          WE'RE NOT PUTTING IT ON TOP OF ALLIGATOR ROADS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR PREMATURE FAILURE. 
          BUT WHAT WAS DONE CORRECTLY WAS CRACK SEAL, UH, AND THE ROADS THAT WERE, UH, AT THAT PARTICULAR RATING SYSTEM THAT I JUST SHOWED. 
          SO WHAT OPENED THEIR EYES, OBVIOUSLY WAS THE COST. 
          BUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF YEARS WAS, WAS, UH, REALIZED FOR THEIR WAS, AND THIS IS WHY THEY DO 30 TO $40 MILLION A YEAR IN OHIO WITH MICROSURFACING. 
          AND IN MANY STATES REFERENCE THIS STUDY. 
          WHAT IS IT? UM, IT IS NOT ASPHALT, UH, PER SE. 
          IT IS AN ASPHALT EMULSION, OKAY? AND WE'VE KIND OF GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE MODIFIER, THE LATEX MODIFIER. 
          WE'VE GONE BACK FORTH BETWEEN SYNTHETIC, WHICH IS MANMADE AND NATURAL LATEX. 
          WE FOUND THAT THE NATURAL LATEX WAS A BIT MORE FORGIVING, LESS SUSCEPTIBLE TO CRACKING. 
          SO IT IS AN SBR RUBBER. 
          WE'VE MOVED OVER TO WHAT THEY CALL QUICKSET. 
          OKAY? IT USED TO BE A, A SLOW SET. 
          SO WE'VE GONE OVER TO THE CQS, SO ALLOWS THE, UH, THE EMULSION TO BREAK SET CURE QUICKER SO WE CAN GET TRAFFIC BACK ON IT QUICKER. 
          ALL RIGHT? IT IS CAT, IT'S CONSIDERED GREEN. 
          AND SO WE DO A LOT OF WORK IN PARK SYSTEMS. UM, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE, THE HOTNESS OF A, OF A, AN ASPHALT, UH, REALLY BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND 120 DEGREES. 
          THE GRANITE IS AGGREGATE THREE EIGHTS DOWN TO P 200 S, WHICH IS YOUR SAND. 
          UH, WE'VE HEARD OF SLURRY SEAL BEFORE, RIGHT? SLURRY SEAL NEEDS THE SUN TO CURE OUT AND IT NEEDS TIME. 
          HOW SLURRY IS DIFFERENT FROM MICRO IS ONE, THE LATEX SINCE TWO IS THE BREAKING AND SETTING ADDITIVES. 
          WE CAN DO MICRO SERVICING AT NIGHT BECAUSE IT'S A BREAKING, UH, EXCUSE ME, A CHEMICAL BREAK, CHEMICAL CURE. 
          SO I CAN, UH, SPEED IT UP OR SLOW IT DOWN FROM THE PLANT BASED ON THOSE ADDITIVES. 
          AND THEN WE PUT PORTLAND CEMENT IN 1% TO AGGREGATE WEIGHT. 
          IT ALL GETS MIXED UP ON BOARD, OUT THE BACK INTO THE SPREADER BOX. 
          AND WE GO. 
          SO WE'RE NOT RELIANT ON HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO AN ASPHALT PLANT. 
          WE JUST BRING IN OUR OWN AGGREGATE. 
          WE BRING OUR LIQUID FROM OUR PLANT, WHICH IS FROM THE NORTH CAROLINA TO THE SITE AND MAKE THE PRODUCT ON BOARD. 
          I WON'T BELABOR AT THIS POINT TOO MUCH, BUT WE'VE KIND OF GONE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN TYPE TWO AND TYPE THREE AGGREGATE. 
          YOU'LL SEE THE THREE IS THE SAME AT A HUNDRED. 
          HOW IT'S DIFFERENT IS TYPE THREE GOES ON HIGHWAYS. 
          TYPE TWO WOULD BE FOR THE COUNTY ROUTES. 
          UH, THE TYPE THREE HAS LESS FINES IN IT, SO IT'S GONNA BE A BIT MORE, UH, FICTIOUS TYPE TWO HAS MORE FINES IN IT, SO IT'S GONNA BE QUIETER. 
          THAT'S ALL THAT, THAT GRAPH REPRESENTS TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNITS THAT PUT IT DOWN. 
          THIS IS TYPICALLY FOR JOBS THAT ARE 15,000 SQUARE YARDS AND LESS. 
          IT'S A TRUCK MOUNT. 
          SO WHEN THAT TRUCK EXPIRES HIMSELF A PRODUCT, IT STOPS, IT DROPS THE BOX, IT PULLS OFF THE NEXT TRUCK. 
          NEXT TRUCK COMES UP TO IT ATTACHES AND PULLS. 
          EVERY TIME YOU DO THAT, YOU HAVE A CONSTRUCTION JOINT, DEPENDING UPON THE EXPERTISE FOR THE TWO GENTLEMEN STANDING ON THE BACK OF THE BOX, THAT JOINT COULD BE GOOD OR THAT JOINT CAN BE BAD. 
          SO THEY LIKE TO, UH, MIMIC THE, UH, GRADE IN WHICH THE MICRO HAS JUST BEEN APPLIED WITH THAT CONSTRUCTION JOINT. 
          SO THIS IS WHY WE ONLY DO THIS ON SMALL JOBS, BECAUSE IT CAN ONLY PULL 800 TO ABOUT 1200 FEET AND IT STOPS. 
          IF YOU WANT LONG CONTINUOUS WORK. 
          THIS IS THE UNIT THAT WILL BE COMING OUT TO D O T JOBS, LONG HIGHWAY, COUNTY POLES. 
          THIS, THE PRODUCT IS BROUGHT TO IT AND IT CONTINUOUSLY PAVES. 
          OKAY? UM, TWO STRIKE OFF MECHANISMS. UM, IN THE BACK YOU'LL SEE BURLAP BEING DRUG. 
          UM, IF YOU'RE GOING ON TOP OF CHIPS, SEAL OR RESIDENTIAL, YOU'RE GONNA SEE BURLAP BECAUSE IT LAYS THE MICRO DOWN BETTER ON THE LONG POLES, YOU'RE GONNA SEE NERE RUBBER, OKAY? THIS NEREM RUBBER ON THE RIGHT GIVES THE PRODUCT A MORE ASPHALTIC LOOK. 
          UM, AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE ON THE COUNTY JOBS IN BEAUFORT WILL BE THE, UH, ACTUALLY BOTH. 
          WE'RE GONNA BRING IN TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRUCKS. 
          TYPICAL, UH, STAGING AREA. 
          WE NEED ABOUT AN ACRE MULIAN DELIVERY SCREENING PLANT. 
          WE'RE GONNA SCREEN TO THE, UH, TO THE TRUCKS. 
          SO WE REDUCE, UH, OVERSIZED AGGREGATE IN OUR STOCKPILES. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WEEDING OUT. 
          SO WE ARE NOT PUTTING THIS ON THE ROAD. 
          AND WHAT THIS IS, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, PREVENT IS THE OVERSIZED AGGREGATE, WHICH CAN CAUSE, UM, UM, DRAG MARKS, TEARS, ET CETERA. 
          SO WE WANT TO ELIMINATE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          SET TIME GOING FROM BROWN, WHEN IT'S INSTALLED TO BLACK, IT'S ABOUT 10 TO 15 MINUTES, SAYS CHEMICALS ARE REACTING, THE WATER GETS UP OUT OF IT AND IT TURNS BLACK RETURN TO TRAFFIC, PLUS OR MINUS AN HOUR, DEPENDING UPON HUMIDITY, UM, ET CETERA. 
          BUT, UH, AGAIN, WE TRY TO MINIMIZE THAT TIME, UH, BY ADDING THOSE ADDITIVES, UH, TO 
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SPEED IT UP OR SLOW IT DOWN BASED ON ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS OR MICROSURFACING CANDIDATES, RIGHT? WE WANT ROADS THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES IN, IN DECENT SHAPE, UH, BETTER THAN THIS. 
          YOU'VE SEEN THAT PICTURE BEFORE. 
          THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          WE'RE CRACK SEALING THE CENTER LINE, WHICH IS OUR WEAKEST PART OF THE ROAD. 
          SECOND WEAKEST PART OF THE ROAD IS THE SHOULDER AND ANY RANDOM CRACKS. 
          AND THEN PUT YOUR MICROSURFACING ON TOP OF IT. 
          WE WANNA REMOVE THERMOPLASTIC MARKINGS. 
          IT WILL NOT STICK, IT IS INCOMPATIBLE, BUT WE WANNA ERADICATE AS YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT, AND THEN INSTALL, AND THEN PUT THE, THE THERMOPLASTIC BACK ON TOP. 
          THE, UH, WAIT TIME TO INSTALL, UH, WATERBORNE PAINT AT SEVEN DAYS. 
          14 DAYS ON THE REINSTALLATION OF THERMOPLASTIC MARKINGS. 
          OKAY? CUZ YOU WANNA MAKE SURE ALL THE WATER IS UP OUT OF THE PRODUCT BEFORE YOU TRAP IT. 
          BY HEATING THE, THE PLASTIC BACK ON TOP OF IT, WE'RE GONNA REPAIR ANY FAILURES AND MAKE SURE WE CRACK SEAL AROUND THOSE FAILURES. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PICTURE OF IT, BUT, UH, WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IN THESE INSTANCES, BECAUSE ASPHALT IS ALIVE, IT'S ALWAYS MOVING. 
          WE LIKE TO TACK COAT OVER THE TOP OF THOSE REPAIRS. 
          SO YOU CHOKE THAT OFF. 
          SO IT DOESN'T WANNA HAVE A TENDENCY TO DRAW ANY SION OUT OF THE MICRO THAT'S SUBSEQUENTLY PUT ON TOP OF IT WITH THE ABSOLUTELY REPAIR FAILURE, AS IF THERE ARE ANY. 
          THIS IS GONNA BE OUR, UH, MANHOLE CASTING STRUCTURE PROTECTION WITH FELT. 
          UH, WE PAVE OVER THE TOP. 
          WE HAVE A YELLOW MARKER THAT'S CENTRIC TO THE, UH, MANHOLE COVER OR VALVE. 
          WE GO BACK IN, CUT IT AND PULL OFF. 
          UH, THIS IS NOT A COMPACTED PRODUCT LIKE ASPHALT IS, RIGHT? WE SAW THE STRIKE OFF MECHANISMS ON THE BACK OF THE, UH, THE BOX OF THE PAVER. 
          AND THEN TRAFFIC IS THE COMPACTING MECHANISM ONCE IT'S OPEN TO TRAFFIC. 
          ALL RIGHT? SO IT'S GONNA COMPRESS AROUND THE CIRCUMFERENCE OF THAT, UH, PERIMETER OF THAT MANHOLE. 
          AND, UH, THERE'S NO NEED TO RAISE OR LOWER YOUR, UM, YOUR CASTINGS BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          WE'RE GONNA COVER CATCH BASINS AND PAVE THROUGH AND PULL OFF. 
          NO IDEA WHY THEY PUT MANHOLE COVERS IN THE WHEEL PATH, BUT THAT WAS THE WAY IT WAS. 
          IT WAS DESIGNED BRIDGE DECKS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO, UH, PLASTIC TAPE OFF. 
          WE'RE GONNA PULL ONTO IT AND THEN PULL THE, THE, UH, PLASTIC OFF. 
          SO WE HAVE A NEAT, UH, LINE. 
          IT, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE PROBABLY, UH, IMPROVE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, TRANSITION THERE FROM THE ASPHALT TO THE CONCRETE, UM, DECK SOMEWHAT. 
          BUT, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA PULL UP TO IT AS CLOSELY AS WE CAN. 
          AND GUESS WE'RE GONNA PULL OVER IT AND THEN, UH, PULL THE PLASTIC OFF. 
          SO IT'S A NICE TRANSITION. 
          RPMS, PLEASE TAKE THEM OUT. 
          WE WILL, UH, EITHER FILL 'EM WITH HOT OR COLD MIX, UH, OR JUST, UH, LET THE MICRO MACHINE FILL IT IN AS IT GOES OVER. 
          WE DO NOT WANT TO TAPE OVER AND CREATE SUCH A RESERVOIR FOR PONDING, ET CETERA. 
          HERBICIDE CONTROL, UH, IMPERATIVE, I'M RUNNING INTO THIS WITH A LOT OF CITIES THAT, UM, JUST WANT US TO GO OUT AND WIRE WHISK THE, THE TOPICAL, UM, DANDELIONS OR, OR GRASS, WHAT WILL BE NOT ADDRESSED. 
          AND THAT'S THE ROOT SYSTEM. 
          SO IT HAS TO GROW. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO, IT WILL GROW BACK THROUGH, UH, MICRO SERVICING AS WELL AS ASPHALT. 
          SO, UH, IT'S BECOMING INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT A LINE ITEM IN FOR, UH, HERBICIDE CONTROL, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE DOING, UM, RESIDENTIAL WORK. 
          UH, AND THAT HAS A TENDENCY TO GROW AROUND THE CURB AND GUTTER LINE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION. 
          WE ARE BIG INTO PUBLIC NOTIFICATION IF WE'RE WORKING IN SUBDIVISIONS. 
          WE HAVE, UH, ACTUALLY CREATED WHAT WE CALL COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CITY OF DURHAM, NORTH CAROLINA, WHERE, UH, WE, UH, CREATING A FORUM JUST LIKE THIS, UH, INVITING THE PUBLIC IN TO TALK, TO ASK QUESTIONS. 
          SO THERE'S TOTAL TRANSPARENCY ON WHAT'S ABOUT TO OCCUR, OKAY? AND SO WE PUT DOOR HANGERS, WE WALK DOOR TO DOOR. 
          WE ARE ENCOURAGED TO PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE, WE'LL PUT ON OUR WEBSITE THAT THESE ARE THE DAYS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE IMPACTED, UH, WHAT STREETS, UH, VERY USER FRIENDLY. 
          AND, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HIRED A, A MARKETING PERSON TO OVERSEE ALL OF THIS TRANSITION, UH, AND MOVING INTO A COMMUNITY AWARENESS. 
          SO, UM, WANNA BE TOTALLY TRANSPARENT OF WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING. 
          IT MAKES EVERYBODY'S LIFE A LOT EASIER. 
          SINGLE FORCE, UH, MICRO, UM, IS GONNA BE WHAT WE DO, UM, PRIMARILY, UM, IT IS, UH, ALL BASED ON DRY AGGREGATE WEIGHT. 
          THERE'S NO MENTION OF THICKNESS OF ASPHALT, INCH, INCH AND A HALF, TWO INCHES. 
          IT'S ALL POUNDS PER SQUARE YARD. 
          AND THAT'S THE DRY AGGREGATE WEIGHT TO THE PRODUCT. 
          SO THE MORE MICRO YOU WANT, THE MORE POUNDS PER SQUARE YARD YOU'RE GONNA CALL OUT. 
          AND THE THICKER THE PRODUCT WILL BE, THE THICKER MICRO IS THE SMOOTHER IT RIDES, THE MORE CORRECTION YOU CAN DO WITH RUT FILLING. 
          UM, AND, AND JUST THE BETTER OVERALL PRODUCT YOU'RE GONNA GET, THE THICKER THAT IT IS. 
          SO THIS IS GOING TO ADDRESS QUARTER INCH RUTS AND LESS. 
          AND, UM, NO NEED TO MILL. 
          IF WE'RE GOING UP TO THE GUTTER PAN, WE'RE UP TO A ROLL CURB. 
          WE'RE GONNA BASICALLY 
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HAVE, UH, ANGULAR SQUEEGEES ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT BOX AND FEATHER IT TO NOTHING. 
          SO THERE IS NO NEED TO MILL IN DERM. 
          I'M RE MICROSURFACING 10 YEAR OLD MICROSURFACING. 
          AND AGAIN, I'M NOT HAVING TO MILL IN THOSE PARTICULAR SUBDIVISIONS, HANDWORK, UM, JUST LIKE KEN'S GONNA TALK ABOUT, WE, UH, WE PUT MICRO DOWN AND THEY HANDWORK IT INTO THOSE RADIUSES, AND THEN WE PULL THROUGH IT, TYING IT ALL TOGETHER, AND WE'LL COME OUT, UH, TO WHERE IT ALL LOOKS UNIFORM, SINGLE COURSE, MICRO SERVICING IN A SINGLE, UH, IN A CITY ENVIRONMENT. 
          THE LINE STRIPING POPS NICELY. 
          UH, I'VE NOTICED THAT OUR, OUR YEAR, UH, TWO YEAR OLD MICRO REALLY HOLDS IT, IT'S COLOR WELL DOWN HERE COMPARED TO OHIO. 
          OHIO HAS IT TENDENCY TO GRAY OUT REALLY QUICK, UM, THAT THEY USE LIMESTONE. 
          SO THE AGGREGATES DOWN, AGGREGATES DOWN HERE HAVE A BIT OF COLOR, UH, AND IT HOLDS ONTO ITS COLOR A A LOT BETTER DOWN HERE. 
          AND I'M NOT, I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, TACK CODE. 
          I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED IT. 
          THE PRICE IS ALREADY PUT INTO THE MICRO, IT'S PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR, BUT IT'S GREAT INSURANCE SINCE WE ARE NOT TAKING OFF, UH, PAINT MARKINGS AS WE ARE THE, THE THERMAL PLASTIC. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA TACK OVER 'EM, UM, AND, AND PUT THE MICRO, UM, FOLLOWING THAT WE CAN GO A HEAVIER SINGLE COURSE, MICRO SERVICING WHERE, OKAY, DURHAM HAS SAID IT'S WEARING OUT SOMETIMES IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, APPLICATION WHERE MY TRAFFIC COUNT IS HIGHER OR WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SUPER, UM, AND IT'S, IT'S WEARING SO WE CAN ACTUALLY INCREASE OUR POUNDS. 
          SO THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE ON THE SUBSEQUENT OVERLAY. 
          SO, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY THERE. 
          IT'S DONE, UH, IN A SINGLE COURSE APPLICATION. 
          WE'RE JUST PUTTING MORE DOWN. 
          UM, AND YOU'RE NOT TAKING, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT A HECK OF A LOT MORE MONEY, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. 
          AND THEN THE DOUBLE COURSE MICRO, I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF SAID THAT I THINK IT'S KIND OF SILLY FOR THE SINGLE COURSE MICRO SPEC HERE IN THE STATE TO ADDRESS EVERY ISSUE THAT'S OUT THERE, OKAY? FROM RESIDENTIAL TO INTERSTATE TO, UH, EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. 
          AND I THINK SOME OF THE ISSUES HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN THIS VERY ISSUE. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT IF WE MODIFY THE WAY WE LOOK AT OUR ROADS IN THIS STATE FROM D O T TO LOCAL AND PICK THE APPLICATION FOR IT ON THE RIGHT ROAD, NOT ROADS THAT ARE TOO FAR GONE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE AB YOU KNOW, BE BETTER OFF. 
          I THINK SOMETIMES IN THE PAST THAT IT'S BECOMING THIS OR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT MICRO SERVICING DOWN WHERE WE NEED AN INCH AND A HALF OR TWO INCHES OF ASPHALT. 
          IF THE TRAVELING PUBLIC SAYS, WELL, HE GOT ASPHALT HERE AND I'M GETTING MICRO SERVICING, WHY IS THAT? IT'S BECAUSE THE DESIGNATION OF, OF RATING IS SUCH THAT THAT'S WHAT IS REQUIRED. 
          AND I ALSO THINK THAT STRETCHING, STRETCHING THE ENVELOPE OR THE, THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD AND PUTTING MICRO IN A, UM, A NO-WIN SITUATION SOMETIMES WITH, BECAUSE OF PAVEMENT CONDITION, UH, IS NOT GOING TO BENEFIT ANYBODY. 
          SO I THINK MOVING FORWARD IN THIS STATE, THAT IF WE REALLY FOCUS ON CANDIDATE SELECTION, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BETTER, MORE POSITIVE OUTCOME WITH MAINTENANCE OVERALL, SPECIFICALLY THIS PRODUCT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO HOPEFULLY HELP MOVE THE STATE IN A DIRECTION OF. 
          BUT THIS IS ANOTHER ANSWER TO A MORE HEAVILY TRAVELED ROAD, HIGHER A D T, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE RUNNING, WE'LL SCRATCH CORSET WITH MICRO AND THEN PUT ANOTHER LIFT ON TOP OF IT FOR A TWO LIFT APPLICATION. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST TO SHOW YOU SOME, UH, PROJECT SPECIFIC CITY OF DURHAM. 
          KINDA HARD TO SEE, BUT THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS BROWN. 
          AFTER 10, 15 MINUTES, IT TURNS BLACK. 
          UM, IF A RESIDENT NEEDS TO GET OUT AND THE TRAFFIC CREW IS WITHIN EARSHOT, WE THROW, UH, SAND ON TOP OF THE UNCURED, THEY CAN BACK ACROSS IT AND THEN TURN WHEN THEY GET INTO THE, UH, UNPAVED LANE AND MOVE ON. 
          IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, UH, AND THEY NEED TO GET OUT, THEY HAVE TO, UH, WE JUST ASK THEM MAYBE IF THEY CAN WAIT 10 TO 15 MINUTES, UH, IT'D BE A LOT BETTER OUTCOME. 
          BUT IF THEY HAVE TO CROSS, WE CAN ALWAYS REPAVE THAT PARTICULAR SECTION. 
          THAT WAS, UH, SCARRED ROADS, UH, AGAIN, LOOKING IN, IN VERY GOOD SHAPE WITH, UH, NICE STRIPING ON TOP OF IT. 
          UH, TWO YEAR OLD PAVEMENT GOING INTO ITS THIRD YEAR. 
          UM, EXCELLENT CONDITION, AGAIN, BASED ON THE RATINGS, UH, THAT WERE GIVEN TO THEM, THEY ARE PICKING THE ROADS THAT THIS WILL SUCCEED ON. 
          AND IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY. 
          ROUNDABOUTS NOT A BIG DEAL, A LOT OF HANDWORK, UH, BUT STILL VERY DOABLE RESULTS OF BEST, BEST PRACTICES. 
          WE'VE PICKED THE RIGHT 
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ROADS, WE'VE PICKED THE RIGHT TREATMENT, WE'VE PAID THE RIGHT PRICE. 
          UM, AND, UM, IT'S A GREAT ANSWER FOR, UM, IN LIEU OF DOING MAYBE CHIP SEAL WITH A FOG SEAL IN THESE TYPE OF APPLICATIONS WHICH RESIDENTS DON'T LIKE OR PAVING PREMATURELY AND SPENDING MONEY UNNEEDINGLY BEST PRACTICES, THE END RESULT IS, IS SUCH, I'M NOT GONNA GET THAT. 
          UM, AND HARD TO SEE, BUT THIS IS AN, I'M GONNA GO BACK. 
          THIS IS AN OLD CHIP SEAL ROAD, UM, THAT HAD ITS, ITS ISSUES. 
          AND SO, UH, THEY WANT IT COVERED UP AND, UM, NICE. 
          EVEN MATTE WENT DOWN BEAUTIFULLY. 
          I'M GONNA SHOW YOU THIS VIDEO SO YOU CAN SEE THE PRODUCT GO DOWN IF IT'LL PLAY, UH, DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT PLAY. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE ON. 
          CAN YOU, WE'LL MOVE ON. 
          NOW, YOU TOOK ME OUT OF, OKAY, SO THIS IS A, UH, NC D O T DIVISION 12, WHICH IS KIND OF, UM, UH, WEST OF CENTRAL PART OF THE STATE, UH, A FIVE YEAR OLD PAVEMENT. 
          UM, AGAIN, THE RIGHT, RIGHT CONDITION ROAD. 
          A COUPLE CRACKS HERE AND THERE. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, AFTER FIVE YEARS OLD, THEY'RE EASILY GONNA GET ANOTHER FIVE YEARS WORTH OF LIFE. 
          UM, ONE THING THAT WE'VE STARTED TO UTILIZE, AND I TALKED ABOUT NEW TECHNOLOGIES, IS THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THIS IS A, A HIGHWAY IN WEST VIRGINIA WHERE THE TUNE OF ABOUT $60,000 PER MILE IN WEEKS TO, TO ACTUALLY DO THIS. 
          THEIR CENTER LINE WAS, WAS ATE UP, THAT COLD JOINT WAS OPENING UP. 
          AND SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY DID A TWO THREE FOOT MILL OUT. 
          AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE, THEY'VE GONE FROM NOW ONE CRACK OR ONE JOINT TO TWO. 
          UH, THEY DIDN'T CRACK SEAL AROUND IT, OBVIOUSLY, AND THAT IS STARTING TO WITHER APART, AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT WHEN THEY COMPACTED IT, THE COMPACTOR BRIDGED AND DIDN'T GET REALLY GOOD COMPACTION. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S KIND OF WAVY. 
          UH, THIS IS ONLY A COUPLE OF YEARS OLD. 
          AND SO WHAT WE, UH, DID AND TO MIMIC GOING FROM A 64 22 TO A 58, 28, MEANING SOFTENING THE BASE ASPHALT SO IT DOESN'T CRACK AS EASILY, WE'RE NOW ADDING FIBERGLASS TO OUR MICROSURFACING, OKAY? AND SO IT GOES IN AT A VERY, UM, NOMINAL RATE, BUT WHAT IT DOES, IT ACTUALLY MAKES THE PRODUCT MORE FLEXIBLE, GIVES IT TENSILE STRENGTH, UM, BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          UM, ONE THING THAT MICR IS, IT IS VERY HARD BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE A DURABLE TO WEAR IT THREE EIGHT OF AN INCH TO A HALF AN INCH. 
          SO ADDING THIS FLEXIBILITY OF THE, THE FIBERGLASS, IT REALLY GIVES US THE ABILITY IN MIMICKING THE SOFTER BASED ASPHALT THAT WE CAN DO THAT NOW. 
          SO IT'S GONNA INCREASE ADHESION, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE FLEXIBILITY, IT'S GONNA MAKE IT VERY, UM, A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT. 
          AND FOR ANOTHER 10%, MEANING 40 TO 50 CENTS PER SQUARE YARD INCLUSION FOR THE FIBERGLASS, THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY IS REALLY BEING LOOKED AT HEAVILY BY, UH, OTHER D O T MARKETS. 
          AND OHIO IS JUST DOING A TON OF IT BECAUSE THE RESULTS ARE WAY HIGH. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          SO, UM, I WAS JUST WITH CHARLESTON COUNTY YESTERDAY, AND THEY'RE PUTTING FIBERGLASS IN ALL OF THEIR MICRO SERVICING WITH THEIR PROGRAM THAT'S COMING OUT HERE IN TWO TO THREE WEEKS. 
          THEY'RE DOING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 200 TO 250,000, UH, SQUARE YARDS OF MICRO DOUBLE HORSE AND FIBERGLASS GOING IN ALL OF IT BECAUSE THEY WANT INCREASED LIFE AND BETTER FLEXIBILITY JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THE, HOW IT'S ATTACHES AND, AND GIVES YOU THAT TENSILE STRENGTH, UM, WITH THAT INCLUSION. 
          SO I SHOWED YOU THAT THAT MILLED OUT AREA, UM, OF THE CENTER LINE, BUT HIT AT THE RIGHT TIME WHERE IT'S JUST STARTING TO OPEN UP MAYBE A LITTLE ALLIGATOR, AND WE'RE PUTTING FIBERGLASS IN WITH THE MICRO SERVICING, AND WE'RE PUTTING IT DOWN THREE FEET WIDE ON THE CENTER LINE. 
          THAT TENSILE STRENGTH IS HOLDING THAT JOINT TOGETHER A LOT BETTER. 
          UH, AND ALL OF WEST VIRGINIA'S, UM, INTERSTATES HAVE CONCRETE UNDERNEATH 
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SO THAT JOINT'S COMING THROUGH NO MATTER WHAT. 
          SO THIS HAS REALLY HELPED OUT ON, UH, THOSE COMPOSITE PAYMENTS AND PURE FLEXIBLE PAYMENTS OF HOLDING THAT JOINT TOGETHER, UH, BECAUSE THE LANES THEMSELF ARE IN GREAT SHAPE, WHERE THEY'RE DOWNFALL WAS, IT'S A CENTER LINE, AND WE HAVE THAT ISSUE IN THIS STATE AND NORTH CAROLINA. 
          SO IT'S A GREAT ANSWER FOR, UM, FOR THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES IT WOULD LOOKS LIKE. 
          UH, AND IT'S ALSO, THEY NOTICED IT'S, IT'S A ALMOST A GHOSTING EFFECT TO KEEP YOU IN A LANE. 
          UH, BUT IF YOU TRANSITION FROM LANE TO LANE, YOU DON'T FEEL IT AT ALL BECAUSE WE PUT IT DOWN. 
          SO THEN JUST TO LOOK, THEY ALSO DECIDED TO DO THE RUMBLE STRIP FILL IN, UH, WHICH PREMATURE CAN HAPPEN, KEN, WE'LL TALK ABOUT ON THE FRONT SIDE, STEALING THOSE UP. 
          BUT IF THEY'VE GONE PAST, YOU CAN FILL THOSE IN, STILL HAVE THE DECIBEL LEVEL OF THE, UH, THE RUMBLE OF THAT RPM, BUT, UH, YOU'VE BASICALLY TAKEN CARE OF THAT JOINT AND, AND HELD TOGETHER QUITE NICELY. 
          SO WE'RE MOVING ON DOWN THE CURVE. 
          ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON DOWN THE CURVE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE FROM THE 80 FIVES AND EIGHTIES INTO THE 75 AND SEVENTIES. 
          WE'RE MAYBE TALKING ABOUT, UM, SOME CHIP SEAL. 
          SO WE THINK ABOUT CHIP SEAL SOMETIMES ON THE, ON THE BETTER SIDE OF MICRO, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE BOTTOM SIDE OF MICRO AS FAR AS CONDITION IS CONCERNED. 
          UM, I'M NOT GONNA GET TOO MUCH INTO THAT, BUT YOU CAN TELL THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES. 
          YOU CAN DO A SINGLE SEAL, A DOUBLE SEAL, TRIPLE SEAL, UH, REALLY THE COMBINATION OF AN ASPHALT EMULSION AND, AND AGGREGATE. 
          UH, WE WANT TO ENSURE FROM A QUALITY, UH, CONTROL STANDPOINT THAT OUR NOZZLES ARE, UH, STRADDLED JUST PERFECTLY, THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT, THAT, UH, LAYERING, UH, IN OVERLAPPING AS SUCH THAT WON'T CREATE WHAT WE CALL CORN ROWING, WHAT'S HEAVY IN ONE AREA AND LIGHT IN ANOTHER. 
          SO WE WANNA HAVE GOOD VISCOSITY OF OUR ASPHALT EMULSION SO IT FLOWS TO THE LOWEST POINT AND FILLS IN NICELY. 
          BUT MAKE SURE ALSO THAT THOSE, UH, NOZZLES ARE DIRECTED IN THE RIGHT WAY. 
          UH, WE WANT TO ALWAYS THINK ABOUT DOING FOG SEALS WITH OUR, OUR CHIP SEALS. 
          IT ELIMINATES DUST. 
          UH, IT CAPTURES A LOT OF POTENTIAL LOOSE AGGREGATE. 
          UM, THE POLITICS, YOU KNOW, THE MINUTE YOU TURN A, A PAVEMENT DARK OR BLACK, THE CALLS STOP BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CHIPS SEAL ROAD ANYMORE. 
          TRULY, IF A CHIPS SEAL IS CALIBRATED PROPERLY FROM EMULSION TO STONE AND A FOG SEALS ON TOP OF IT, IT'LL LOOK LIKE AN ASPHALT PAVEMENT TO THE EFFORTS GEL IF IT'S DONE THE RIGHT WAY. 
          WHAT TYPE OF LIFE INSPECTION? SAFETY INCREASE IN LIFE INSPECTIONS, A FOG SEAL. 
          YOU KNOW, FOG SEALS HAVE THE, UH, CHIP SEALS IN ITSELF. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE ADVENT OF POLYMERS AND USING POLYMERS, IT WAS PROBABLY THREE TO FIVE YEARS. 
          UH, NOW WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SEVEN YEARS OUT OF IT. 
          UH, GOOD QUALITY LIFE. 
          UM, A LOT OF TIMES WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING SHIP SEALS ARE IN, UH, RURAL TYPE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE AGRICULTURE, UH, THAT MAY HAVE WEAR AND TEAR ON CHIP, BUT WE DO A LOT OF CHIP SEAL, UM, WITH THE FOG SEAL, UM, UH, WITH OR WITHOUT THE FOG SEAL AS A, AS AN INNER LAYER. 
          ALSO, WE'RE LOOKING AT JORDAN'S, UM, SEAL WITH LIGHTWEIGHT AGGREGATE. 
          MM-HMM. 
           ON LOW ROADS TYPICALLY STAY SECONDARY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          THE, THE ADVANTAGE OF LIGHTWEIGHT IS THAT IF IT HITS A WINDSHIELD, IT'LL BASICALLY JUST PU RICE TO DUST. 
          IT IS VERY AD DURABLE WHEN IT'S ON THE ROAD IN SHIP SEAL FASHION. 
          THE CON OR THE NEGATIVE TO LIGHTWEIGHT IS THAT IT'S VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE. 
          UM, TRUCKED IN AND HAULED FROM WHERE LIGHTWEIGHT COMES FROM. 
          YOU CAN PAY ALMOST AS MUCH OR LIGHTWEIGHT AS YOU'RE PAYING FOR A TON OF ASPHALT. 
          IT, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PRODUCT, BUT IT, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S ALMOST A COST, UH, INEFFECTIVE TO UTILIZE IT IN A, A GRAND FASHION AND ON EVERYTHING. 
          SO WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATION, UH, WITH THAT LATER, BUT THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE SOURCES, IF NOT ONE THAT MAKE THE LIGHTWEIGHT AND IT HAS TO BE TRUCKED IN FROM A GREAT DISTANCE. 
          SO, GOOD CONVERSATION, BUT GOOD IDEA. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, AND THEN OTHER THAN POLITICS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY AND VISIBILITY OF STRIPING THEREAFTER, THE LOOK OF, UH, CHIP SEAL WITH FOG SEAL ON TOP OF IT, AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY MESSED WITH FOG SEALS IN A POSITIVE WAY, UH, TO MAKE THEM DARKER AND, AND LONGER LASTING. 
          SO I THINK FOR A 50 TO 75 CENTS A SQUARE YARD, UH, YOU KNOW, FOG SEAL IS A GREAT, A GREAT TOOL, UM, KIND OF BEFORE AND AFTER. 
          SO RATHER THAN HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, A CHIP SEAL THAT HASN'T BEEN SWEPT BY A CONTRACTOR, I ALWAYS, UH, ENCOURAGE YOU 
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TO HOLD YOUR CONTRACTOR SWEEPING THE CHIP SEAL AFTER IT'S BEEN DOWN ANY LOOSE, UH, AGGREGATE. 
          AND THEN WHEN THE FOG SEAL GUYS COME IN, THEY'LL SWEEP IT AGAIN. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF BLACK AGGREGATE LAYING IN THE BERM, UM, UN UNUSED AFTER IT'S BEEN STRIPED AND, AND DRIVEN ON FOR A WHILE. 
          SO YOUR SHIP SEAL WILL BE INSTALLED, IT'LL BE, UM, UM, COMPACTED WITH A STEEL DRUM, AND THEN A RUBBER TIRE WILL BE RIGHT BEHIND IT FOR THE COMPACTING. 
          UH, BUT AFTER TRAFFIC'S BEEN RUN ON IT FOR A WHILE AND THEN SWEPT AND, AND FOG SEALED AND STRIPE, IT LOOKS REALLY NICE. 
          SO WE'RE MOVING ON DOWN. 
          WE'RE OUT OF THE SEVENTIES. 
          WE'RE TEETERING INTO THE, THE 60 FIVES WHERE, UH, MICRO SERVICING ON ITS OWN IS NOT APPLICABLE BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MUCH CRACKING, RIGHT? SO WE'VE GOT ALLIGATOR, BUT WE ARE STILL STRUCTURALLY SOUND. 
          THESE ARE THE TYPE OF PAYMENTS THAT WE'RE HERE. 
          SO BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT WE CALL A CAPE SEAL. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA PUT A CHIP SEAL DOWN, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW IT WITH A MICROSURFACING ON TOP OF IT. 
          SO TWO CONSECUTIVE TREATMENTS. 
          ONE, TO ADDRESS THE MASS CRACKING THAT'S HAPPENING ON THE STILL STRUCTURALLY SOUND ROAD. 
          UM, YOUR BIGGEST ISSUE IN THE STATE IS WATER. 
          SO A LOT OF TOP-DOWN CRACKING EXISTS. 
          NOT A LOT OF BASE ISSUE COMPARATIVELY TO, OR, OR COMPARED TO, UH, YOUR, YOUR TOP-DOWN CRACKING AND YOUR CHIP SEAL CAN ARREST A TON OF THIS TOP-DOWN CRACKING, ALLOWING THE MICRO SERVICING TO BE SUCCESSFUL THEREAFTER. 
          THIS IS A CANDIDATE BEFORE THE CRACK SEAL THAT WAS A CAPE SEAL CANDIDATE, RIGHT? WE ASKED THE AGENCY, WOULD YOU MIND CRACK SEALING THE CENTER LINE AND JUST TO WELD THAT TOGETHER FOR US? AND THEY THOUGHT THEY'D BE GOOD STEWARDS, AND THEY'D CRACK SEALED EVERY CRACK, NOT KNOWING THAT THAT'S WHAT THE CHIP SEAL WAS, UH, EARMARKED FOR CITY OF DURHAM CAPE SEALED, WE'RE GONNA LAY OFF THE GUTTER PAN SIX INCHES. 
          SO WE'RE NOT SPRAYING THE, THE, THE CURB OR THE GUTTER PAN. 
          WE'RE GONNA LAY THAT CHIP SEAL OFF, AND THEN THE MICRO WILL BE, UH, TAKEN TO THAT, UM, THAT GUTTER PAN WITH NO LOSS OF CURB OR GUTTER PAN REVEAL. 
          UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY A COMMUNITY IN OHIO, AND I'M KIND OF PROUD OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE AT THE VERY END WAS A D O T GARAGE. 
          WHERE THE TREES ARE, IS, IS BOWLING GREEN HIGH SCHOOL, AND TO THE LEFT WITH THE FENCING IS THE, THE COUNTY, UH, FAIRGROUNDS. 
          AND SO A LOT OF TRAFFIC IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. 
          SO WE, WE, WE CHIP SEALED THE EXISTING SURFACE, LAID OFF THE GUTTER LINE, AND WE MICRO TO THE GUTTER PAN. 
          AND THIS IS THE END RESULT THAT IT LASTED 11 YEARS, AND IT ACTUALLY DIDN'T EVEN NEED TO BE MILLED UP. 
          THEY JUST WANTED TO PUT, UH, SOME FRESH ASPHALT DOWN. 
          BUT THE END LOOK OF THERMOPLASTIC MARKINGS BEING INSTALLED AT THE CROSSWALK TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, A GREAT ALTERNATIVE TO PAVING, RIGHT? SO WITH A CHIP SEAL AND A MICRO COMBINATION AS FAR AS THE COST IS CONCERNED, YOU'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, 50 TO 75% THAT OF AN INCH AND A HALF MIL FILL, AND YOU'RE GONNA GET 10 TO 15 YEARS OUTTA YOUR CAPE SEALS ON THE RIGHT ROAD. 
          ALL RIGHT? ANY FAILURES GOTTA BE FIXED. 
          JUST A RURAL LOOK. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, WE'VE CHIP SEALED, UNPROVED, NO CURB, AND GUTTER AND MICRO ON TOP OF THE, THE CHIP FOR OUR CAPE SEAL. 
          SO BASICALLY WE'VE, UH, FINISHED AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE IS CONCERNED. 
          OUR, OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WE STARTED AT THE HUNDREDS. 
          KEN'S GONNA TALK NEXT ABOUT REJUVENATOR. 
          WE'VE CRACK SEALED, UH, CRACK SEAL REJUVENATOR EVOLVED INTO, UH, MICRO SERVICING AND THEN SOME CHIP SEALS. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE PAVING. 
          THAT IS WHAT IS GONNA COMPRISE YOU Y'ALL'S SYSTEM, UM, AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE AND PAVING COMBINED. 
          AND SO INSTEAD OF TAKING PAVING UP INTO THE HIGH SEVENTIES, LOW EIGHTIES AND PAVING, AND WE FIND THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING VERY MUCH COVERAGE FOR THE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE SPENDING BASED ON TODAY'S ASPHALT COSTS, UTILIZING MAINTENANCE IS GONNA ALLOW US TO GET FURTHER AND MORE MILES COVERED. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS, MA'AM? DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, CASE STUDIES, UH, OF THE FINANCIAL, UM, PARTS OF THESE IN TERMS OF BOTH SPREAD OVER BASICALLY CREATING ROI, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT FOR YEARS? YES. 
          YOUR SIR. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEP. 
          AND THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE ONE OF MY GOALS, UM, WITH SLURRY PAVERS, IS TO GO BACK, UH, THROUGH THE S E D O T, THROUGH THE NNC, D O T, AND, UM, IN CHRONICLE ALL OF THE ROADS AND FIND OUT WHAT THE INITIAL INVESTMENT WAS, AND THEN COMPARE IT TO, UH, ALTERNATE TREATMENTS SUCH AS ASPHALT, AND THEN COME UP WITH YOUR INVESTMENT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABSOLUTELY HOPING THAT ALREADY, AND KIND OF SORT OF, BUT TO BE CONTINUED AS 
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I, I HOPE TO HAVE THAT COMPLETE THIS YEAR, AND THEN I'LL FORWARD. 
          I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS, OURS, ANYBODY ELSE'S, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE REASON WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS APPROACH IS VERY, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, HERE IT IS, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN OR ARGUE, WE JUST EXPLAINED IT. 
          THIS IS WHY WE'RE STILL THERE, RIGHT? AND I THINK, AGAIN, TO EMPHASIZE THAT IT'S A, IT'S NOT AN AN ASPHALT OR MICROSURFACING, IT'S A, AN ASPHALT HAS ITS PARTICULAR TIME. 
          MICRO IS GONNA BE BEFORE THAT. 
          AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF, OF WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE MICROSURFACING, EXCUSE ME. 
          IF YOU'RE GONNA RECEIVE, IT'S GONNA BE WHEN. 
          SO, UM, AND I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, YOU KNOW, THERE, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS BACK WE'VE, UH, UM, HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH, WITH, UH, WITH PRODUCT, WITH, WITH, UM, WITH CANDIDATE SELECTION, UH, IN THE STATE. 
          AND, UM, I HOPE TO WORK INTENTLY WITH THE D O T, UH, TO RECTIFY, UM, EVERY, EVERY ISSUE THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOARD, UM, TO BRING, TO BRING MAINTENANCE BACK TO THE S E T O T IS NEEDED. 
          UH, WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO, UH, EXPECT TO PAVE EVERYTHING AND KEEP OUR HEADS ABOVE WATER. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO UTILIZE IT, BUT UTILIZE IT IN THE RIGHT WAY, ON THE RIGHT ROAD. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S, UH, WHAT MY GOAL IS WITH, WITH THIS DEPARTMENT AND, AND, AND HELPING YOU GUYS OUT. 
          SO, UM, I HOPE THAT YOU REACH OUT. 
          I'VE GIVEN Y'ALL MY CARD. 
          UH, ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW. 
          BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          YES, FOR THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO I WAS ON BLUFFTON PARKWAY WITH ROB MCFE, AND THE NEXT GENTLEMAN WAS THERE WITH US. 
          AND, UM, AS WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS, ROB IS TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS JOY JUICE, THIS STUFF ISN'T WORTH THE DARN, AND ON AND ON AND ON. 
          AND I SAID, HOW MATT WE'RE GONNA USE THIS STUFF, AND WHICH HE WAS VERY MUCH AGAINST USING IT. 
          AND THE PRODUCT WAS CALLED RECITE, AND RECITE WAS USED WITH, UM, THIS COMMITTEE'S ENDORSEMENT. 
          AND THE SUCCESS WE HAD WITH IT HAS BEEN, UH, BEYOND OUR EXPECTATION ACTUALLY. 
          AND WHAT WE DID WAS WE DID CORINGS AFTER, BEFORE AND AFTER THE USE OF RECITE. 
          AND I'LL LET KEN, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, GO IN AND START DESCRIBING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RECITE AND PA PRAISE AND TECHNOLOGY, YOUR THANK YOU, CRAIG. 
          HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. 
          UH, THIS IS, UH, THIS, THIS IS REALLY GOOD FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, AS, AS PART OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN A PART OF NOW. 
          AND IT, IT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          IT WAS ACTUALLY FIVE, ALMOST SIX YEARS AGO NOW. 
          UH, CUZ WE ARE NOW IN YEAR SIX, RIGHT? WITH YOUR, WITH BUFORT COUNTY. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WONDERFUL. 
          UM, WE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW SOME VALUE THERE. 
          WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU WHAT WE DO, WHY IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE PAVEMENT. 
          UM, WE HAVE SOME VARIATIONS, UH, ON THIS PRODUCT. 
          SO KINDA LIKE TIM, UM, HE'S GOING TO, HE WAS ABLE TO SHOW YOU WHERE YOU COME IN AND YOU BEGIN CORRECTING, UH, DISTRESSES THAT COME, THAT HAPPENED TO THE ROADWAY. 
          AND SO ALL OF HIS, UH, UH, PROCESSES WERE CORRECTIVE FOR THE MOST PART. 
          OUR PROCESSES ARE ALL PREVENTIVE. 
          SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUT THERE AND, AND GETTING A JUMP ON ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE, ANY ASSET THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA DETERIORATE OVER TIME. 
          SO HOW DO YOU GET A JUMP ON IT? IF YOU BUY A NEW CAR, YOU'RE GONNA START TAKING CARE OF THAT BABY. 
          YOU'RE GONNA WAX IT. 
          YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN WITHIN YOUR POWER TO KEEP IT GOOD, BECAUSE IT COSTS YOU AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY. 
          SAME WITH OUR ROADWAYS. 
          UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, A A LANE MILE OF ROAD IS COSTING ABOUT WHAT A BRAND NEW CORVETTE COSTS THESE DAYS. 
          THAT'S THE REALITY. 
          AND WE WOULD NEVER, EVER GO OUT AND, AND, UH, LET THE TAXPAYER PAY FOR THAT CORVETTE. 
          AND WE NEVER DO THE MAINTENANCE ON IT. 
          WE JUST WEAR IT OUT AND NEVER TRY TO, UH, TO TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE AND THEN SOME OTHER, UM, VARIATIONS THAT ARE ON IT. 
          UM, LET'S SEE HERE. 
          THE BIG ONE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          WHO AM I? MY NAME'S KEN HOLTEN. 
          UM, I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND FOR 24 YEARS I WAS A CITY ENGINEER. 
          UH, I ACTUALLY HANDLED, UH, THE CITY OF TAMPA, UH, RIGHT AWAY OPERATIONS. 
          SO AS THE OPERATIONS CHIEF OUT THERE, UH, THAT WAS STREETS AND DRAINAGE. 
          UM, AS PART OF THAT, UH, I WAS VERY MUCH INVOLVED WITH ASSETS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT. 
          AND SO, UH, PAVEMENTS 
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WERE PART OF THAT THAT I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR. 
          WE HAD OVER 700 SIGNALIZE LOCATIONS. 
          WE HAD, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PLUS THOUSAND STREET SIGNS, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS, UH, UNDERGROUND UTILITY OF STORM WATER. 
          UM, SO WE HAD TO KNOW HOW WE WERE TAKING CARE OF THOSE THINGS. 
          AND THEN AS THE PAVEMENT SIDE OF THE HOUSE, HOW DID THESE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX, HOW DID THEY FUNCTION? UM, THE CITY OF TAMPA, BEFORE MY TIME, UH, WE WERE A, UH, A SOFTWARE BETA TESTER FOR THE PAVER PROGRAM, FOR MICRO PAVER PAVER PROGRAM. 
          AND SO I, I WAS IN, UH, INSTILLED WITH THAT HONOR OF BEING PART OF THAT SOFTWARE. 
          AND, AND FOR ALL THOSE YEARS, UH, I WENT AND TRIED TO BREAK THAT SOFTWARE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I TRIED TO ALSO MODEL THE, UM, THE BENEFITS OR NOT BENEFITS OF DIFFERENT PAVEMENT, UH, TREATMENT STRATEGIES. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ENDED UP WITH WAS, UM, ASPHALT REJUVENATION WITH A MATERIAL CALLED RECLA MITE WAS ONE THAT ACTUALLY SHOWED ME A HUGE BENEFIT FINANCIALLY TO MY SYSTEM. 
          AND, AND WE WERE ABLE TO MODEL THAT. 
          THINGS LIKE CRACK SEAL, MICROSURFACES, SOME CHIP SEAL. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THOSE INTO THE PROGRAM WHERE IT MET, UH, THE NEEDS. 
          UM, OF COURSE, PAVING, HOT MIX PAVING, THAT'S A MAINSTAY IN EVERY PROGRAM. 
          UH, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE MY OWN PAVING, UH, FORCES. 
          WE PAVED OVER 60 MILES A YEAR INTERNALLY. 
          UM, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAD, UM, CONTRACT ASSISTANCE ON THAT. 
          BUT WE, WE ALSO GOT INTO OTHER PROCESSES AND, AND I'LL KIND OF SHOW YOU THOSE WELL AS WELL. 
          UH, A P W ASKED THAT I, UM, COME IN AND HELP, UH, BE A, A CONTRIBUTING AUTHOR TO THE ROADWAY MAINTENANCE GUIDE. 
          AND SO, UH, THAT'S ANOTHER FEATHER THAT I WAS ABLE TO BE A PART OF. 
          THESE ARE STRATEGIES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN YOUR TOOLBOX. 
          YOU START AT THE VERY BOTTOM END. 
          YOU'VE GOT FULL DEATH RECLAMATION, COLD IN PLACE, RECYCLING THAT'S REUSING ALL OF THOSE MATERIALS AND, AND RECYCLING THOSE INTO A, UM, A STRUCTURAL MATERIAL. 
          SO RESTRUCTURING THAT ROADWAY, YOU'VE BEAT IT, IT'S GONE, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE BUT, BUT TO GO OUT AND REHAB IT. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THE WAY AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE CURVE, HOT IN PLACE, RECYCLING, UH, ASPHALT OVERLAYS. 
          UM, THAT'S WHERE WE A LOT OF TIMES THINK THAT'S OUR MAINSTAY. 
          WE THINK WE HAVE TO MILL IT OUT OR REHEAT IT AND PUT IT BACK DOWN. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY VERY STRUCTURAL. 
          THAT'S A VERY GOOD THING THAT WE, UH, THAT WE DO. 
          IT'S A MAINSTAY IN OUR PROGRAM. 
          BUT WHEN YOU START GETTING UP INTO WHAT TIM, WHERE HE ENDED CAPE SEALS AND IN MICRO SURFACE CHIP SEALS, CRACK SEALS, THESE ARE ALL CORRECTIVE. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO, TO FIX OR ABATE A PROBLEM THAT'S HAPPENING HOPEFULLY EARLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IS THIS VERY TOP OF THE CURVE. 
          THIS IS PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE CALLED ASPHALT REJUVENATION. 
          ASPHALT'S GONNA DETERIORATE RIGHT HERE WHERE WE MANUFACTURE IT. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO HEAT ASPHALT TO 300 DEGREES OR BETTER WHEN, WHEN YOU GET ABOVE 212, THERE'S WHERE YOUR MOISTURE IS BEING DRIVEN OFF. 
          YOU HAVE TO GET THAT AGGREGATE DRY. 
          IT HAS TO BE A VERY DRY PROCESS OR THE ASPHALT CEMENT TO BOND TO THAT AGGREGATE. 
          ALL RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE MOISTURE GONE. 
          WELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A HOT PROCESS LIKE THIS, AND THEN YOU GO TO A PAVING OPERATION, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LIGHT SMOKE AROUND THAT PAVER, THAT LIGHT SMOKE THAT IS OIL. 
          ALL RIGHT? THOSE ARE WHAT'S CALLED THE MALTIN FRACTIONS OF ASPHALT CEMENT. 
          THEY'RE BEING DRIVEN OFF. 
          THEY SHOULD BE IN THE PAVEMENT, BUT THEY'RE BEING DRIVEN OFF. 
          IT'S JUST A PART OF THE PROCESS. 
          THEN WE HAVE A BRAND NEW ROAD. 
          WE'RE GONNA SIT BACK IN OUR LAWN CHAIR AND WE'RE GONNA ENJOY THAT BRAND NEW ROAD FOR HOPEFULLY MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME. 
          RIGHT? UNFORTUNATELY, IT HAPPENS WAY TOO SOON THAT IT BEGINS TO SHOW ITS AGE. 
          THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, THEY HAVE DONE JUST WHAT TIM SHOWED IN ONE IN HIS SLIDE. 
          THEY SAID, HEY, WE'RE YOU'RE GONNA HA YOU'RE GONNA SEE A SLOW DETERIORATION, UH, AT THE TOP OF THE CURVE AND THEN IT'S GONNA STEEPEN BECAUSE THAT, THAT ASPHALT'S GONNA GET MORE HARD. 
          IT'S GONNA GET BRITTLE. 
          YOU'RE GONNA START SEEING CRACKING AND THEN RE MORE AND MORE DISTRESSES AND IT'S GONNA STEEPEN THAT CURVE AND ABOUT 75% OF THE LIFE OF THAT ROAD, UM, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE ONLY GONNA DROP ABOUT, UH, UM, WAS IT 40%? OKAY? YOU'RE ONLY GONNA DROP BY 40% IN THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX. 
          IT'S A VERY SHORT TIME FROM 75% OF THE ROAD. 
          YOU ONLY HAVE 25% LEFT AND YOU'RE GONNA CRASH AND BURN. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU SEE YOUR PAVEMENTS, UH, START TO WEAR OUT SO, SO FAST. 
          SO WHAT DO WE DO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING? WE KNOW IT'S GONNA DETERIORATE. 
          WE WANNA SLOW THAT DETERIORATION DOWN. 
          SO IF YOU THINK OF THESE LITTLE SALT TEETH OUT HERE, EACH ONE'S A CORRECTIVE MAINTENANCE. 
          WE WANNA SLOW DOWN THE TIME TO THE FIRST CORRECTIVE MAINTENANCE. 
          ALRIGHT? THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'VE STOPPED ASPHALT REJUVENATION, BUT YOU AT LEAST HAVE TO YOU, YOU GET THE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO SLOW DOWN AND NOT CRACK SEAL OR, OR DO SOME OTHER PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE FOR CORRECTIVE MAINTENANCE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. 
          RECLA IS A, A, UH, PRODUCT THAT IS ASPHALT CEMENT. 
          UM, IT IS THE NATURAL WAY. 
          IT'S THE WAY TO, UH, TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR ASPHALT PAVEMENT. 
          WE'RE GONNA PUT THE MAL OILS BACK INTO THE ROADWAY. 
          WHAT DOES THAT LOOK 
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LIKE? THIS IS AS SIMPLE AS THE PROCESS IS. 
          IT'S A DISTRIBUTOR TRUCK. 
          THE, UH, MATERIAL ON THE, ON THE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT'S RECITE. 
          THEN WE HAVE A MATERIAL THAT'S YELLOW. 
          IT'S OUR PLUS TI. 
          WE ADD TITANIUM DIOXIDE TO THE ROADWAY. 
          WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT VERY AT THE VERY END OF THE PROCESS. 
          BUT, UM, RECITE THAT IS ADDING THOSE LIGHT OILS BACK INTO THE ROAD. 
          WE DON'T NEED A LOT OF MATERIAL IN THAT ROAD TO AFFECT THAT ROAD. 
          ABOUT 94% IS SOME KIND OF AGGREGATE SAND OR, OR SMALL ROCK. 
          ONLY 6% OF THAT IS BINDER. 
          SO 6% ASPHALT BINDER THAT A ASPHALT BINDER, THAT'S WHAT IS STARTING TO DETERIORATE ON YOU. 
          SO, WAY BACK IN THE FIFTIES, UM, DR. 
          WRESTLER, HE WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS GOING ON WITH ASPHALT. 
          WHY IS IT DETERIORATING? AND WHAT HE FOUND OUT WAS THOSE LIGHT OILS AND RESINS, THE, THE MALTIN, THEY JUST, THEY CONVERT SOME TO ASPHALTINES. 
          SO THEY BEGIN TO GET OUT OF BALANCE. 
          AND THEN THEY ALSO EVAPORATE, BASICALLY OUT THE ROADWAY. 
          THAT IMBALANCE CREATES THE HARDNESS. 
          SO HE DEVELOPED A MATERIAL, PUT THE MALT TEAMS TO PUT THE MALT TEAMS BACK IN THE ROADWAY. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE MALT TEAMS LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU SEPARATE 'EM OUT. 
          SO YOU HAVE THESE, THESE LIGHT OILS AND RESINS THAT ARE IN THE PINK CIRCLE. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ASPHALTINES. 
          WE HAVE TO REMOVE THESE ASPHALTINES. 
          OKAY? SO WE TAKE THEM OUT OF THE MIX. 
          IF THEY WERE IN THE TRUCK, THAT'S WHERE OUR MALTINGS WOULD BOND TO THAT. 
          THAT'S WHERE THEY GO. 
          SO YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY ASPHALTINES IN THE TANK OF THE TRUCK. 
          WE WANT TO BOND TO WHAT'S IN THE ROADWAY. 
          SO WE HAVE TO EMULSIFY TO A VERY, VERY SMALL PARTICLE SIZE AND PUT THAT MATERIAL INTO THE ROADWAY. 
          SO IN CHARLESTON COUNTY, THIS IS A CHARLESTON COUNTY GRAPH, UM, ON THIS SIDE. 
          SO THE GREEN LINE IS A TREATED ROADWAY. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IN THAT TREATED ROADWAY IS WE'RE LOWERING THE HARDNESS OF THE ROAD. 
          WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SOFTEN THE ROAD. 
          WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS INCREASE THE FLEXIBILITY AND DURABILITY BY ADDING THOSE LIGHT OILS AND RESIN. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE, WE HAVE A MUCH MORE DURABLE, IT IS A LITTLE SOFTER IN A DYNAMIC. 
          SHE TER TEST, BUT WE KNOW IT'S, UH, SOFTER AND, AND MORE DURABLE. 
          YOU ALSO SEE THAT RED LINE THAT'S AN UNTREATED ROADWAY. 
          IT'S BEGINNING TO GET EXPONENTIALLY, AND THAT'S HARDER. 
          THAT HARDNESS CORRESPONDS WITH THE STEEPENING OF THE CURVE. 
          SO THE HARDER IT GETS, THE FASTER THE DE DETERIORATION HAPPENS. 
          THIS IS JUST RIGHT OFF OF GOOGLE. 
          THIS IS A PILOT OR A, UH, A LITTLE TEST SHOT THAT WE DID. 
          IT IS ABOUT 20 YEARS, UH, OLD THAT WE SHOT THIS TEST SHOT. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, RIGHT HERE IS ABOUT WHERE WE STARTED UP, WHERE YOU START SEEING THE DARK PARTS IN THE ROADWAY. 
          IT HAD RAINED, THE ROAD WAS DRYING. 
          BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE IS WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, REJUVENATED THE ROAD. 
          THE OILS WERE PUT BACK IN THE ROAD, IT KIND OF SWELLS THAT ASPHALT CEMENT BACK UP CUZ IT HAS ENOUGH OIL IN IT AND IT KEEPS THE MOISTURE OUT OF THE ROAD. 
          THAT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL DETERIORATION PART THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA AFFECT THAT ROADWAY. 
          ALL OF THESE OTHER AREAS, YOU SEE WHERE THE, THE WATER IS STILL STANDING ON THE ROAD. 
          UM, IT'S CRACKED. 
          THAT ROAD IS CRACKED. 
          SO WHAT WE DID IS WE HAD A VAN, UH, VAN SURVEY ICC COMPANY. 
          THEY WENT AND THEY DROVE THIS ROAD FOR US. 
          THIS IS THE CRACKING PATTERN. 
          CAN YOU SEE THE YELLOWS AND REDS? THIS IS THE CRACKING PATTERN IN THE UNTREATED PIECE OF THE ROADWAY. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS A 20 YEAR OLD. 
          THE RECITE TREATED PIECE, ALTHOUGH IT'S CRACKED, HAS A WHOLE LOT LESS CRACKING. 
          THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO, NO MOISTURE RESIDING IN THERE. 
          SO THIS DETERIORATION IS MUCH, MUCH SLOWER. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND, AND HAD AN ENGINEERING COMPANY AS WELL, UH, GAVE US A, AN INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA. 
          AND THEY SAID, WE'RE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 22 AND 25 PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX POINTS OUT OF A ZERO TO A HUNDRED SCALE HIGHER IN THE TREATED AREA AFTER 20 YEARS THAN IN THE UNTREATED AREA. 
          THAT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          THAT'S A MUCH, MUCH SLOWER DETERIORATION IN IN OTHER AREAS. 
          UM, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE A, A LOT OF ROADWAYS FOR AGENCIES. 
          MOST OF THE TIME WE DO ALL THEIR ROADWAYS. 
          BUT IN THIS, THIS PARTICULAR AGENCY, WE HAD DONE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SQUARE YARDS A YEAR, BUT WE HADN'T DONE EVERYTHING. 
          AND SO THEY WENT OUT AFTER LOSING MONEY IN 2008, 2009, AND STARTED LOOKING AT ROADS BECAUSE THEY WERE GETTING BOND, UH, A BOND ISSUE. 
          AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, WE NEED TO PAVE. 
          WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO START AND WHERE WE'RE GONNA DO IT. 
          AND THEY STARTED LOOKING AT ROADS, AND THEY FIRST STARTED SEEING ROADS OF THIS 2001 TO 2003 AGE RANGE IN THIS CONDITION. 
          THEY'RE LIKE, PERFECT, WE'RE GONNA GO PAVE ALL THE 2000 ONES, 2000 THREES. 
          THEN THEY RAN ACROSS THESE SAME AGE. 
          THEY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY. 
          SOME WERE BAD, SOME WERE NOT. 
          BUT WHAT IT WAS IS THOSE ON THE, UH, ON YOUR LEFT, THOSE WERE ACTUALLY ASPHALT REJUVENATED. 
          SO THEY WERE DETERIORATING SLOWER. 
          ALL RIGHT? AND THEY DID THAT YEAR 
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AFTER YEAR. 
          SO I'VE GOT FOUR PICTURES OF PROGRESSION. 
          THIS IS THE FIVE, 2005 RETE PROGRAM. 
          YOU CAN SEE NOT MUCH DISTRESS OVER HERE, AND YOU'VE GOT QUITE A BIT OF CRACKING GOING ON. 
          THIS IS A 10 PROGRAM, AGAIN, JUST A VARIATION, MUCH SLOWER, UH, PA UH, DETERIORATION IN THE PAVEMENT. 
          THIS IS THE, UH, THE 11 PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THEY HAD TO STOP. 
          THEY RAN OUTTA MONEY AFTER THE 2008 ECONOMIC DOWNTURN. 
          UH, THEY COULDN'T PAY FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS. 
          SO AGAIN, NOW THEY'RE COMING UP AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE STARTING TO GO AGAIN. 
          THIS WAS IN THEIR, UH, PRESENTATION OF THEIR COMMISSION, UM, UP IN ROSWELL, GEORGIA. 
          THE ENGINEERING MANAGER WAS GETTING HIS MASTER'S DEGREE, AND HE WROTE HIS MASTER'S PAPER. 
          SO IT'S KINDA THIRD PARTY. 
          AND WE, WE HAD NO IDEA HE WAS DOING THIS. 
          SO HE WROTE HIS MASTER'S PAPER ON RECITE, UH, JOE VITAL IS HIS NAME. 
          UH, WHAT JOE DID IS HE, HE OBSERVED THAT HIS ROADS WERE DETERIORATING ABOUT ON THIS LEVEL RIGHT HERE, ON THAT YELLOW LINE, IF HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HIM. 
          SO HE'S GETTING ABOUT 13 YEARS OF LIFE FROM PAVING TO A CONDITION WHERE HE HAD TO GO REPAVE. 
          HE PUT RECITE DOWN ONE YEAR AFTER, AND THEN AT YEAR FIVE YEARS AFTER THAT. 
          SO AT YEAR ONE AND YEAR SIX, AND THIS WAS THE DIRECTION OF HIS DETERIORATION DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. 
          BUT HE WAS GETTING A SIGNIFICANTLY SLOWER DETERIORATION. 
          AGAIN, IF YOU DO THE, YOU DO THE MATH BETWEEN THOSE TWO POINTS, THAT ALSO IS ABOUT 25 PCI POINTS. 
          SO ALL THIS DATA STARTS CORRELATING AND, AND THERE'S, THERE'S OTHERS. 
          WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS FINANCIAL. 
          ALL RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE WE ALL CARE. 
          IS THIS REALLY A VALUE? YES, WE CAN SHOW A TO SLOWER DETERIORATION. 
          SO WHAT HE DID IS HE SAID, LOOK, TAKING THE, THE COST AT THAT TIME, FOSTER RESURFACING ONLY TO 13 YEARS, HE WAS, IT WAS COSTING HIM 92 CENTS PER SQUARE YARD PER YEAR TO OWN ONE SQUARE YARD OF THAT PAVEMENT. 
          IT WAS GONNA COST HIM 92 CENTS PER SQUARE YARD PER YEAR BY ADDING THE ASPHALT REJUVENATION MATERIAL. 
          YES, HIS COST WENT UP, BUT HE WAS ALSO GETTING 21 YEARS WHEN HE DID THAT MATH, IT LOWERS IT TO 65 CENTS PER SQUARE YARD PER YEAR, A 29, UH, PERCENT SAVINGS ON HIS BUDGET. 
          SO HE COULD STRETCH HIS DOLLARS AND NOW HE COULD GO TAKE CARE OF OTHER ROADS. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS, THIS WHOLE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT, IT'S NOT JUST WHERE DO YOU PAVE, IT'S WHAT DO YOU DO TO STRETCH THE DOLLARS AT A VALUE TO THE PUBLIC? ALL RIGHT? CUZ THESE ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING THAT TO, FOR THEIR BENEFIT. 
          ALRIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET EDUCATED ON THESE THINGS. 
          AND, AND I HOPE YOU DO ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 
          UM, MICRO SURFACE. 
          MICRO SURFACE IS HELD TOGETHER BY ASPHALT EMULSION. 
          ASPHALT EMULSION IS ASPHALTINES AND MAL TEAMS, WE DO REJUVENATE THAT TOO. 
          ALL RIGHT? WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT, UM, WANT TO OVERSELL ANYTHING. 
          HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE A GOOD CONDITION, MICRO SURFACE, THIS IS A MICRO SURFACE THAT WAS REJUVENATED. 
          THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS LEFT TO AGE OR ON THE SAME ROAD, JUST IN TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF THE ROAD. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S WEARING OFF LIKE A MICROSAFE MICROSERVICE WOOD. 
          WHAT DOES OUR PROCESS LOOK LIKE? BASICALLY, IT'S A TOPICAL APPLIED. 
          WE HAVE A DISTRIBUTOR TRUCK GOES DOWN THE ROAD, THE MATERIAL IS PINK. 
          ALL THOSE NOZZLES, THE PINK COLOR IS HELPING US KNOW THAT WE HAVE GOOD QUALITY CONTROL. 
          THOSE NOZZLES ARE WORKING. 
          THEY HAVE A GOOD OVERLAP. 
          WE HAVE A GOOD COVERAGE ON THE ROADWAY. 
          THE PINK COLOR GOES AWAY, SO IT TURNS TO TRANSLUCENT AS THE MATERIAL PENETRATES INTO THE ROAD. 
          ONCE IT'S PENETRATED IN, WE HAVE A LIGHT SANDING, SO THERE IS SAND CAN SPREAD OUTTA THAT AUGER. 
          IT'S VERY LIGHT. 
          AND THEN WE COME BACK USUALLY THE NEXT MORNING AND WE SWEEP IT UP. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S JUST A REAL SIMPLE PROCESS FOR US. 
          WE MAINTAIN THE ROAD, UH, DURING THE WHOLE TIME PERIOD THAT, THAT IT'S, THE ROAD IS PINK. 
          UH, WE HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL UP, WE'RE IDENTIFYING TO THE PUBLIC, BUT AT NO TIME IS THAT ROAD EVER CLOSED. 
          YOU CANNOT DAMAGE THIS MATERIAL BY DRIVING ON IT. 
          OKAY, SO WITH THIS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT JUST IN GENERAL, ASPHALT REJUVENATION, THE MALTING FRACTIONS QUESTION THAT THE CONCERNS DT HAS DUR DURING THE APPLICATION. 
          SO THERE IS A, UH, THERE'S A SHORT TERM NOW WE'RE GONNA MAINTAIN THE TRAFFIC DURING THAT FRICTION PERIOD THERE, OR THE FRICTION, UH, LOSS PERIOD, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          YES, IT IS A LIGHT OIL. 
          IT'S TOPICALLY APPLIED. 
          THE, UM, THE, AND WE HAVE FRICTION TESTING THAT WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU WHEN THAT AGGREGATE GOES DOWN. 
          WE'RE RIGHT BACK UP INTO THE, UH, TO THE D O T OR THE FEDERAL D O T LEVELS. 
          WE'RE ABOVE 35. 
          THE FRICTION NUMBER OF 35 
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WE'RE ABOVE THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE DO IT. 
          WE MAINTAIN IT. 
          SO RIGHT HERE ON BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND, UM, BUCK WALTER, RIGHT HERE IN FRONT, WE DID BOTH OF THESE ROADS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NO, I, I AGREE. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE HIGH SPEED. 
          OKAY. 
          POSTED HIGH SPEED, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          UM, WE HAD NO, UH, NO ACCIDENTS DURING THAT. 
          OKAY? AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD KNOCK ON THIS CLASSIC PODIUM, BUT, UM, WE HAD NO TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. 
          WE MAINTAINED THE TRAFFIC. 
          WE LET THE MATERIAL GO IN LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO. 
          WE PUT THE, UH, AGGREGATE DOWN AND, AND AGAIN, WE PUT THE LIGHT AGGREGATE DOWN THERE. 
          IT'S, THERE IS A SHORT WINDOW. 
          AND I'LL BE HONEST, IT, IT, IT'S FRICTION LOSS IS THERE, BUT IT'S A SHORT WINDOW, WHICH IS WHY THE AGGREGATE GOES DOWN. 
          IT'S A VERY ANGULAR, NOT NOT DUSTY MATERIAL, UH, FOR TWO WHEEL TRAFFIC PRIMARILY. 
          SO MOTORCYCLES OR BICYCLES. 
          UM, BUT THE MATERIAL ACTUALLY STARTS TO GET STICKY AFTER THAT. 
          AND SO WE SEE FIRST A FRICTION LOSS, PUT THE AGGREGATE DOWN, WE'RE RIGHT BACK IN THE SAFE ZONE, BUT THEN WE SEE A PRETTY QUICK STEEPENING OF THAT. 
          UM, THAT FRICTION NUMBER. 
          IT, IT GOES UP PRETTY RAPIDLY. 
          UH, SO, SO IT, I'M NOT SCARED OF TREATING A ROADWAY. 
          I'M GONNA SAY NORMALLY UP TO ABOUT 45 MILES PER HOUR POSTED, UM, AROUND ATLANTA, THEY GET A LITTLE STRETCHY ON US, AND THEY LIKE US TO DO 45 TO 50. 
          I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT UNLESS WE LOOK AT IT FIRST GUYS. 
          YEAH, YEAH, 35 IS VERY COMFORTABLE. 
          UM, 40, WE'RE STILL COMFORTABLE. 
          UM, 45, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT WITH YOU, BUT, UH, IF WE GET ABOVE THAT, WE'RE, WE MAY SHY AWAY FROM IT, UNLESS IT'S MULTI-LANE, MULTI-LANE, WE CAN DO THAT ALL DAY LONG. 
          WE JUST CLOSE THE LANE UNTIL IT'S SAFED OPEN. 
          OKAY? SO ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE AS A LONGITUDINAL JOINT, ALL RIGHT? AND I KNOW TIM SHOWED YOU SOME PICTURES OF BEING REPAIRING, SO YOU'RE LETTING IT GET, GET AHEAD OF US. 
          WELL, WE'VE ALL SEEN THESE KIND OF PICTURES WHERE, WHERE THE JOINTS GET, UH, AHEAD OF US AND TO GO OUT AND REPAIR JOINTS ON, I'LL SAY HIGHER TRAFFIC, HIGHER VOLUME, HIGHER SPEED, UH, LOCATIONS. 
          IT, IT'S DANGEROUS, ALL RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC CONTROL. 
          YOU'VE GOTTA BE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON. 
          SO IF YOU THINK THAT ASPHALT REJUVENATION CAN BENEFIT A HIGHER SPEED, HIGHER VOLUME ROAD, BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE, YOU KNOW THAT THAT LANE'S GONNA WEAR OUT FASTER. 
          MAYBE ASPHALT REJUVENATION IS NOT THE RIGHT PRODUCT FOR THE WHOLE ROADWAY. 
          ALL RIGHT? SO LET'S GET ON TO, TO JUST THE JOINT AND WHY WILL WE BE INTERESTED IN THE JOINT? BECAUSE THIS IS A BRAND NEW ROAD. 
          ALL RIGHT? THIS IS A D O T HIGHWAY. 
          WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT HERE, THAT JOINT JUST, YOU CAN'T GET THE DENSITY LIKE YOU CAN, UH, AWAY FROM THAT JOINT. 
          AND SO IT'S HOLDING THAT MOISTURE, IT'S GONNA LET THAT ENVIRONMENTAL DETERIORATION HAPPEN. 
          AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT JOINT, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE HIGHWAY, UH, WHERE THEY HADN'T PAVED YET. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE JOINTS COME APART AND THEN THEY'VE HAD TO REPAIR IT. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO, IS WE, WE HAVE A PRODUCT CALLED JOINT BOND THAT WILL HELP YOU ELIMINATE SOME OF THIS VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE, UH, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR. 
          I JUST HAPPENED TO BE DRIVING DOWN THIS ON A WAY TO A JOINT BOND PROJECT IN KENTUCKY. 
          THIS IS THEIR PROJECT. 
          AND I LOOKED IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, AND SURE ENOUGH, THAT JOINT WAS A LOT CLOSER THAN THEY THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE. 
          SO THEY HAD TO DO THIS VERY EXPENSIVE REPAIR. 
          WHAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT CLOSER IS DETERIORATING MUCH FASTER. 
          THAT RED LINE, MUCH, MUCH FASTER DETERIORATION. 
          WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH A PRODUCT, BECAUSE WE KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS A HIGH SPEED, HIGH VOLUME ROADWAY, IT'S AN INTERSTATE. 
          WE KNOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          YOU PROBABLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A 10 OR 12 YEAR RESURFACING PROGRAM ON THAT. 
          AND SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY CARE ABOUT BUYING TIME OUTSIDE OF THAT. 
          WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TRY TO GET YOUR JOINT TO LAST, THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT YOU NEED IT TO LAST, WHAT ARE YOU FUNDED TO? AND THAT'S IT. 
          UH, IT'S BECAUSE THE DENSITY JOINT BOND'S GONNA GO IN. 
          IT'S GONNA RE HELP, UH, STABILIZE THAT JOINT. 
          YOU'RE GONNA ADD MALTIN TO THAT AREA. 
          IT'S GONNA, UH, WE ALSO DRAW INTO A POLYMER. 
          SO IT GIVES JUST A LITTLE DENSITY IN THAT AREA, UH, TO SLOW DOWN THE DETERIORATION. 
          RUMBLE STRIPS, BOY, WE LIKE TO PUT THOSE RIGHT ON THAT PAVING JOINT TOO. 
          SO NOT ONLY IS IT THE WEAKEST PART OF THE PAVEMENT, NOW WE HAVE A, UH, AN AREA THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY GONNA HOLD WATER, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR IT. 
          WE HAVE A SMALL RIG THAT CAN DO SOME OF THESE. 
          UH, AND THIS IS A PILOT PROJECT, BUT I WANNA SHOW YOU THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO SEE THE DENSITY THAT'S NOT ON THAT PAVING JOINT. 
          SO WE HAVE RUMBLE STRIPS ON THE JOINT. 
          THERE'S THE PRODUCT JUST, JUST RIGHT BEHIND THE TRUCK. 
          YOU JUST DRIVING AWAY. 
          YOU CAN SEE IT PENETRATING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE VERY FAST. 
          THERE'S NO DENSITY THERE. 
          MATERIAL'S GOING RIGHT AWAY. 
          AS YOU GET FURTHER AWAY FROM THE JOINT, YOU START TO GET INTO THE MORE DENSE PAVEMENT. 
          ALRIGHT? 
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THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AFTER THAT MATERIAL'S GONE DOWN. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE MARKING IS STILL VISIBLE. 
          IT IS RETROREFLECTIVE. 
          THOSE ARE BEADS THAT ARE GONNA SHINE RIGHT BACK AT YOU AT NIGHTTIME. 
          SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH SEEING THOSE. 
          WHEN WE GET TO HIGH HIGHWAYS, UH, WE'LL GET OUR BIG TRUCK OUT THERE. 
          WE'LL EVEN PUT BRUSHES ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT SPRAY BAR SO THAT THE, UH, TRUCKS THAT PASS BY DO NOT BLOW OUR MATERIAL AROUND. 
          WE WANT IT TO GET RIGHT DOWN ON THE PAVEMENT. 
          THIS IS A, UH, JUST A, A PILOT. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE, THE MARKINGS ARE THERE CLEARLY VISIBLE. 
          UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY THREE YEARS AFTER THAT WAS SHOT. 
          AND YOU CAN STILL, IT'S, IT'S STILL KEEPING THE MOISTURE OUT OF THAT JOINT. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU CAN SEE WE COULD HAVE, WE COULD HAVE GONE A LITTLE BIT WIDER, BUT THE JOINT IN THE FOREGROUND IS ACTUALLY STARTING TO COME APART. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT MATERIAL IS ACTUALLY STARTING TO BE AGGRESSIVE, AND IT'S ONLY THREE YEARS OLD. 
          THIS IS AFTER 10 YEARS. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE MATERIAL IS STILL EFFECTIVE ON THAT JOINT. 
          AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE ROADWAY AROUND THE JOINT DOES, UH, DETERIORATES ABOUT THE SAME SPEED AS THE JOINT. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK STRAIGHT DOWN AT IT, YOU CAN SEE, UH, IT'S A LITTLE TIGHTER WHERE THE MATERIAL WAS PUT DOWN. 
          AND IT'S, UH, MUCH LOOSER WHERE, WHERE OUR MATERIAL WAS NOT PUT DOWN. 
          AND AGAIN, THERE'S A LONG LINE. 
          YOU CAN JUST SEE THIS IS BEHIND THE TRUCK END OF THE DAY. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT JOINT BOND? YOU KNOW, IT'S A ALL TEAM PRODUCT AND THAT WOULD, ON A HIGHER SPEED ROADWAY OR MAYBE A, A SPEED THAT YOU DON'T WANNA DO REMADE OVER A TRAVEL LANE, YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS IF YOU BELIEVE YOU HAVE JOINT PROBLEMS, IF YOU HAVE CHIP SEAL. 
          AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA BELABOR THIS CUZ TIM HAS SOME GREAT TOOLS IN HIS TOOLBOX, UH, BUT CHIPS SEAL, WE HAVE A MATERIAL CRF, IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT FOR LOCKING IN THOSE ROCKS ON A CHIP SEAL. 
          UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO GIMME A CALL. 
          IT'S JUST IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR ARSENAL. 
          WE'RE GONNA GET INTO REAL TECHNOLOGY FOR A MOMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IN CHARLESTON COUNTY, THAT'S THE CLOSEST HERE, BUT CHARLOTTE, RALEIGH DURHAM, GARY GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, ORLANDO, ORLANDO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. 
          I, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF THESE. 
          PHOENIX, TUCSON, AUSTIN. 
          UM, WE'RE PUTTING THIS PRODUCT DOWN IN, IN MORE AND MORE PLACES. 
          IT DOES A NUMBER OF THINGS. 
          SO IT'S RECITE, BASICALLY IT'S THE OILS THAT ARE IN RECITE. 
          UM, IT'S A MATERIAL CALLED ASPHALT REJUVENATING AGENT ONE, SO A R A ONE. 
          AND THEN WE ADD TITANIUM DIOXIDE. 
          TITANIUM DIOXIDE IS GOING TO DO A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS TO IMPROVE THE ROADWAY ENVIRONMENT. 
          IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE SOLAR REFLECTIVE INDEX. 
          IT'S GONNA MEET LEAD BUILDING STANDARDS. 
          IT'S GOING TO MEET THE US UH, GVC. 
          IT'S GONNA ALSO MEET THE ENVISION, UH, STANDARDS FOR, FOR OUR HARD INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          UM, WE'RE, THAT'S FOR THE SOLAR REFLECTIVE INDEX. 
          WE'RE GONNA GET ABOVE 29. 
          UM, WE'RE PART OF A, UH, LEAD PROJECT. 
          UH, WITH THAT WE HELP THEM MEET THE LEAD, UH, STANDARDS OR SOLAR REFLECTIVE INDEX. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT'S TO REDUCE THE HEAT ISLAND, UH, TO LOWER ENERGY COSTS. 
          THAT, THAT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          NOW, THE TITANIUM DIOXIDE IS A PHOTO CATALYST. 
          WHEN UV LIGHT HITS TITANIUM DIOXIDE, IT CITES AN ELECTRON. 
          THE ELECTRON JUMPS UP INTO THE ROADWAY ENVIRONMENT. 
          IT BREAKS DOWN TAILPIPE EMISSIONS, MOLDS, VIRUSES. 
          WE, WE'VE SEEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING SOME TESTING RIGHT NOW ON MICROPLASTICS ON P F A S, WHICH IS A BIG DEAL. 
          UM, AND, UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          I'M, I'M, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST STARTING SOME TESTING. 
          SO I'M, UH, WE'RE WORKING, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TEXAS A AND M AND, UH, AND IT'S A LITTLE TOO EARLY TO KIND OF TELL YOU SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT, UM, WE ARE, WE'RE MOVING TO, UH, SOME TEST CHAMBERS THAT, UH, PURDUE HAS SET UP. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE JUST MEETING WITH THEM TO, TO, TO SET UP WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE FOR THAT STUDY. 
          UM, WE EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO RELEASE THOSE PRETTY SOON. 
          THE MATERIAL IS THIS MATERIAL, AGAIN, THEY LOOK VERY SIMILAR GOING DOWN THE ROAD. 
          UH, A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL PLACARD THAT TRUCK WITH A CLEAN, COOL LOGO ON IT. 
          AND AGAIN, WE, WE HAVE A, AND THERE'S THE CLEAN, COOL LOGO. 
          UM, THIS HAPPENS TO BE IN, UH, IN DOWNTOWN CHARLESTON, NEAR THE HOSPITAL AREA. 
          UM, I HAVE A VIDEO. 
          SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS A VIDEO. 
          SO IF YOU'LL BE CAREFUL ON THE VOLUME, THIS WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THEIR PROJECT. 
          MY NAME IS MCKENZIE KELLY. 
          I'M THE PAPER MANAGER, CHARLES COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS. 
          TODAY, WE'RE OUT HERE IN THE ROSEMONT COMMUNITY PROJECT OUTSIDE PROGRAM, NEARLY T DETERIORATION INTO THE 
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ASPHALT DAMAGE FROM SUN AND WATER. 
          PHOTO CATALYST. 
          ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU LIGHT SUNLIGHT HITS THE ROADWAY, IT EXCITES AN ELECTRON. 
          THE ELECTRON JUMPS UP THE VAULT, THE ROADWAY, AND BEGINS TO BREAK DOWN POLLUTANTS. 
          SO IT BREAKS DOWN THE, UH, TAIL PIPE EMISSIONS, VOLATILE ORGANICS, MOLDS, VIRUSES, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. 
          IN ADDITION, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA HELP REDUCE E SO WE'RE GONNA MEASURE ALL OF THESE, UH, QUANTITATIVELY. 
          UH, AFTER THE FACT, WE, UH, WE HAVE SOME AREAS OF TREATED AND UN TREAT. 
          WE'RE GONNA SEND THOSES TO TEXAS A M AND PROVIDE THE RESULTS. 
          THE COUNTY, GREENVILLE, CAROLINA, ORLANDO, ADDITIONAL TESTING, RESEARCH REDUCTION, NITROGEN OXIDE, THE POLLUTION FROM VEHICLES LOST BY OVER 40%. 
          WE COORDINATING AND RECEIVING INPUT FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS COUNTRY. 
          THE AIR MONITOR HEIGHTS, AIR QUALITY, THE INFORMATION, THE MEDICAL DISTRICT DOWNTOWN, WE HOPE TO SHARE AND GAIN KNOWLEDGE FROM EACH OTHER ON THE BENEFITS OF THIS PRODUCT. 
          FOR THE PILOT, WE CHOSE UNION HEIGHT AND ROSEMONT NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY ALONG I THE GREATEST BENEFIT FROM PRODUCT. 
          FOR MORE INFORMATION ON OUR PROGRAM, PLEASE VISIT ROSE CHARLESTON ORG. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, JUST RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA. 
          UH, IT'S PRETTY NEAT THAT, UM, THAT THEY'RE DOING THIS. 
          WE, WE JUST, UH, HAD A SECOND YEAR OF THIS MATERIAL GO DOWN LAST YEAR. 
          AND, UH, AND THEN WE'RE BACK UNDER CONTRACT AGAIN THIS YEAR, UH, FOR, FOR MORE, UH, FOR MORE ROADS WITH THE TITANIUM DIOXIDE. 
          AND, AND THAT'S A, UM, ABOUT 10% OF THEIR ASPHALT REJUVENATION PROGRAM. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE STILL STUDYING THAT. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN DOWN, UH, IN SOME OF OUR AGENCIES. 
          IT'S BEEN DOWN FOR OVER FIVE YEARS AND REPEAT, WE'RE STILL GETTING BENEFITS FROM IT. 
          SO THE TITANIUM DIOXIDE DRAWS INTO THE PAVEMENT. 
          WHAT WE NEED TO SEE IS THE, UH, IS THAT PHOTO CATALYTIC PROPERTY NEAR THE SURFACE. 
          UM, AND SO IN OUR SPEC, WE DRAW IT IN, UM, AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE AT 2000 PARTS PER MILLION AT SIX MILLIMETERS. 
          SO, AND WE'RE, WE'RE AT LEAST THAT MUCH. 
          UM, AND, AND SO AS THE ROADWAY BEGINS TO AGE AND, AND WHERE MORRIS GOES UP TOWARDS THE SURFACE, AND, AND, AND SO FAR WE STILL HAVE QUITE A BIT PAYING ROUGHLY SQUARE YARD PLUS OR MINUS. 
          WHAT'S THE ADD TO THAT BUCK? YOU'RE, YOU'RE STILL UNDER TWO 50 OR PHOTO LY GRADE. 
          TITANIUM DIOXIDE IS ABOUT $30,000 A TON. 
          SO IT'S NOT CHEAP. 
          UH, WE HAVE TO HANDLE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. 
          UM, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROBABLY IN THE 2 25 TO TWO 50 A SQUARE YARD. 
          SO ROUGHLY DOUBLE THE, THE PRICE OF RECITE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          RALEIGH WON A CLEAN TECH AWARD WITH IT. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS PICTURE IS. 
          SO JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE THIRD PARTY REVIEW, THEY LOOKED AT IT AND, AND, UH, THIRD PARTY, UH, SAID, YES, THEY GET THE CLEAN TECH IMPACT AWARD. 
          YES, YOU CAN DREAM A LITTLE BIT. 
          I PUT SOME IDEAS UP HERE. 
          YOU'VE GOT, UM, OF COURSE, NEIGHBORHOODS OR ANY ROAD, LIKE WE WERE TALKING UP TO 40, 45 MILES AN HOUR RUMBLE STRIPS. 
          UH, IF YOU'RE ABOVE THAT, UH, RUMBLE STRIPS OR, OR JOINT BOND MATERIAL CAN GO ANYWHERE. 
          UH, HIGH SPEED, HIGH VOLUME PHOTO, CATALYTIC PAVEMENTS, SHOULDERS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANNA JUST PROTECT THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD, THAT'S NOT A TRAVEL LANE. 
          SO THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO, UH, TO SLOW DOWN THE AGING OF YOUR ASPHALT. 
          AND, UH, IF YOU REALLY GET INTO WANTING TO TREAT THE WHOLE ROAD, WE CAN DO SOME, UH, FRICTION OF BRA, UH, BRAIDING. 
          SO SKID ABRAR, RAISE THE FRICTION NUMBERS WAY UP, UH, ABOVE WHERE THEY REALLY NEED TO BE. 
          SO MORE LIKE IN THE SEVENTIES, UH, AND THEN PUT THE MATERIAL DOWN AND EVERYTHING STAYS PERFECTLY FINE FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT. 
          SO, UH, THE, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WAS IN NORTH CAROLINA WHERE THAT PICTURE WAS TAKEN. 
          IT WAS AN OPEN GRADE OF FRICTION COURSE. 
          AND, UH, WHAT WE FOUND IS WHEN WE SHOT BLAST OR BRAIDED THAT SURFACE IT AND VACUUMED UP THE, THE SHOT BLAST, WE WERE ACTUALLY VACUUMING UP ALL THIS DEBRIS THAT WAS IN THE FRICTION COURSE. 
          SO IT LED THE FRICTION COURSE FUNCTION, LIKE A FRICTION COURSE IS SUPPOSED TO, AND THE WATER DROPPED BACK DOWN BELOW THE, THE PAVEMENT. 
          SO THE TRUCK SPRAY, VEHICLE SPRAY DIDN'T HAPPEN WHEN WE PUT THE ASPHALT REJUVENATOR ON IT. 
          ACTUALLY, WE ACTUALLY GOT SEVEN TO EIGHT MORE YEARS OUT OF A, UH, UH, AN OLD FRICTION COURSE. 
          SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT GETTING A LONGER LIFE JUST OUTTA THE ASPHALT BINDER, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE MALT TEENS WILL DO FOR IT. 
          INTRODUCE 'EM. 
          SO ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. 
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JOINT BOND. 
          USE THAT ON LIKE, UM, NO, THAT WOULD BE MORE LIKE THE CRACK SEAL. 
          YOU, YOU MIGHT PUT THAT MATERIAL DOWN. 
          JOINT BOND WOULD MEAN BE MORE FOR LIKE THE LONG LINE PAVING JOINT WHERE, WHERE PAVERS, UH, PAVE YOU HAVE ONE, ONE PASS OF THE PAVING MACHINE, AND THEN THE OTHER PASS IS A COLD JOINT AND THAT YOU GET SOME BRIDGING IN THERE, YOU GET SOME DENSITY ISSUES, AND THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL DETERIORATION TO BE ABLE TO GET IN, SO AIR AND MOISTURE. 
          AND SO WE KIND OF SEAL THAT OUT, UH, 15, 15 MINUTES OR SO IN A CASE LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH, IT'S REALLY FAST. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE, WE'LL HAVE A, UH, FOLLOWER TRUCK OR TWO, UM, JUST BEHIND IT. 
          AND, UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A SEMI PASSING RIGHT THERE ON THE, UH, ON THE LEFT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I, I APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I THINK YOU HAVE MY CARD, SO, UH, FEEL FREE TO LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE, GIVE ME A CALL. 
          UM, WE'RE HERE FOR, FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA FOR ABOUT A 15 MINUTE BREAK. 
          SO STRETCH YOUR LEGS. 
          UH, IF WE MAKE IT 10, THAT WOULD EVEN BE BETTER. 
          SO, UH, TAKE A BREAK AND WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH ELIZABETH. 
          OKAY. 
          WE CAN PROCEED ON WITH OUR MEETING. 
          UM, MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THIS IS WHERE I'M GONNA STOMP ON THE FLOOR AND SAY, OKAY, NOW'S THE TIME TO, TO PAY A LITTLE BIT OF ATTENTION. 
          IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE ACCOUNTABLE FOR COMING UP WITH A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PAVING IN YOUR DISTRICT ACROSS THE COUNTY, BUT, AND YOU'LL BE VIOLATING FOR YOUR DISTRICT TO GET PAVING DONE FOR THE D STREETS WOULD HAVE 2000 DOWN TO 500 ADT. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA BE SELECTING THE STREETS, AND IT HAS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THAT DONE AND READY BY AUGUST 4TH. 
          SO WE'LL BE SELECTING OUR STREETS. 
          WE'RE GONNA PA AND PART OF THE REASON FOR OUR MEETING TODAY, AGAIN, IS, UM, WE, WHEN THIS STARTED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO BEFORE, UH, ELIZABETH, JUST AS ELIZABETH WAS COMING ON BOARD, WE WANTED TO HAVE AN, UH, A D O T VISION OUTWARD AS TO WHAT WORK THEY WOULD BE WERE DOING IN OUR DISTRICT OR IN OUR COUNTY, EXCUSE ME. 
          AND SO TODAY, THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOOKING IN THE OUT YEARS OF DOTS PAVING. 
          AND IT ALSO THEN GIVES YOU TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY STREETS THAT INTERSECT WITH THEM AGAIN, SO THAT MAYBE WE CAN MARRY UP AND PARTNER WITH THEM WHENEVER THEY'RE DOING WORK IN THEIR VARIOUS STREETS THAT THEY HAVE. 
          SO I'VE ALWAYS VIEWED OUR, OUR COUNTY RESPONSIBILITIES AND DOT'S RESPONSIBILITIES TO BE A PARTNERSHIP WHERE BOTH OF US WORKED TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOAL OF THE DRIVING PUBLIC. 
          AND I, I CAN'T THANK D O T FOR THE SUPPORT AND HELP THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US OVER THE YEARS. 
          ELIZABETH, IT'S YOUR TURN. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GORDON. 
          AGAIN, I'M ELIZABETH SANDERS. 
          I'M THE RESIDENT MAINTENANCE ENGINEER WITH S E D O T BEAUFORT. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT TODAY WITH YOU ABOUT THE IMPACT S E D O T HAS PERFORMED IN BEAUFORT ALONE BETWEEN THE YEARS 2019 TO 2023. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE UP THE SCREEN HERE BEHIND ME, IT COMES TO A SUM OF A HUNDRED, JUST AT A HUNDRED, UH, LANE MILES OF IMPACT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE HAVE PERFORMED THAT COME. 
          AND JUST IN 2023 ALONE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 21 MILES, 21 AND A HALF MILES IN, JUST IN 2023. 
          AND THAT'S SUMMATION IS A 8.8 MILLION. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE VERY BUSY, LOTS OF ROADS TO RESURFACE, BUT MAKING SIGNIFICANT STRIDES ON IMPROVING OUR ROADWAYS. 
          AND JUST BRIEFLY, WE'LL GO OVER OUR 2023 AND 2024 RESURFACING, UH, PROGRAMS AND SELECTED CANDIDATES. 
          YOU CAN SEE OUR PRIMARY ROUTE HERE FOR US 2 78 BUSINESS. 
          WE'LL BE DOING, UH, TWO MILES, JUST OVER TWO MILES OF RESURFACING FROM YACHT COVE DRIVE TO ARROW AND CHARLESTON HIGHWAY US 17. 
          UH, ABOUT A HALF A MILE SECTION THAT'S GONNA BE COMING IN FROM THE COUNTY LINE. 
          AND THEN ON OUR FEDERAL AID 
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SECONDARIES, WE'RE LOOKING AT S SEVEN 40, UH, 45, WHICH IS LANDSEND ROAD. 
          WE'LL BE GOING FROM SEASIDE TO CUFFY, AND THAT'S ABOUT JUST UNDER THREE AND A HALF MILES. 
          SO 3.35 MILES ALLEN'S CAUSEWAY, WHICH WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS FROM CTC, UH, CONTRIBUTION FROM THAT FINANCIALLY AS WELL. 
          TOGETHER PARTNERING WILL BE PERFORMING ALAN'S CAUSEWAY FROM ZERO ZERO, WHICH IS ON THE US 21 SIDE COMING INTO ALMOST, UM, JUST AT TWO MILES. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE, THOSE ROADWAYS WERE LET IN 2022. 
          SO IN SEPTEMBER AND NOVEMBER, THOSE, UM, PROJECTS WERE BID ON. 
          AND NOW WE ARE ON OUR WAY WITH A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING BEING HELD LATER THIS MONTH. 
          AND YOU'LL START TO SEE THOSE ROUTES RESURFACED IN THIS COMING YEAR. 
          SO PROGRESS IS COMING IN 2024. 
          ON OUR NEXT ONE, OUR PROPOSED CANDIDATES FOR THE NEXT PROGRAM, PRIMARY ROUTE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CONTINUING ON US 17, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF TR OF, UH, CHARLESTON HIGHWAY THERE, UM, FROM, UH, LET'S SEE, OLD SHELDON TO NEMORE'S PLANTATION LOOKING AT FIVE AND A HALF MILES, AS WELL AS PARTNERING TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY ON THEIR PROJECT ON THE PROJECT. 
          UM, 2 78 AND THE RAMPS AT ONE 70 WORKING TOGETHER. 
          UH, WE'LL BE PERFORMING JUST UNDER A MILE OF RESURFACING AT THOSE RAMPS. 
          AND ON 2 78 FOR FEDERAL AID SECONDARIES, UM, 45 LANZ IN, UM, WE'LL BE GOING FROM CONTINUING FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          WE'LL BE GOING FROM, UH, CUFFY ROAD DOWN TO PERRY JUST AT TWO MILES. 
          AND WE'LL ALSO BE PERFORMING A FEDERAL AID ROUTE, CASTLE HALL ROAD, S 73 TENTATIVE. 
          WE ARE HOPING TO GET TO THAT ROADWAY, UM, FROM OLD SHELDON TO FRAMPTON AT JUST UNDER A MILE AND A HALF. 
          AND OUR NON-FEDERAL AID, SECONDARY ROUTES, AGAIN, CONTINUING OUR WORK THAT WE DID IN 20 WILL BE DOING IN 2023. 
          UM, WE'LL BE PICKING UP AT MILE 0.2 0.0 AND THEN GOING TO THE END OF ISLANDS CAUSEWAY, UM, WHICH IS ABOUT A MILE FOR 2024. 
          AND THEN IN HOPES OF ALSO ADDING ON, UH, FIRST BOULEVARD, SPANISH POINT DRIVE AT A HALF A MILE FOR 2024. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK COMING UP, A LOT OF WORK PLANNED AND, UH, MAKING GREAT PROGRESS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          YEAH. 
          ON THE 17TH. 
          YES. 
          IS THAT FIRST SECTION 24 THAT INCLUDE THE DOWN STATION? UM, 24. 
          THAT'S FURTHER DOWN. 
          I THINK THE PORTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS CLOSER DOWN TOWARDS RIVER ROAD. 
          SO THAT'LL BE IN 2024 IS NO, IT'S NOT AS OF NOW. 
          NO, IT'S NOT . 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          GOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN I'LL JUST LEAVE IT WITH, UH, IF YOU HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          ALSO, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE THESE QR CODES AND CHECK OUT, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE MAPS WITH SPECIFIC, UH, INDICATORS OF WHERE THESE START AND STOP POINTS ARE ALONG EACH ROADWAY AND THE UPCOMING PLANS, AS WELL AS OTHER PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON IN OUR COUNTY AND IN S E D O T. 
          AND THEN, AS ALWAYS, SINCE I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALSO SHARING WITH VIEWERS AT HOME, CURRENT OPENINGS AT D O T SPEC AND SPECIFICALLY AT BEAUFORT MAINTENANCE. 
          SO PLEASE CHECK US OUT ON THE WEB, LOTS OF MORE INFORMATION TO LEARN OF ALL THE, UH, RESOURCES AND IMPACT WE'RE MAKING STATEWIDE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          2024 PROJECT. 
          THIS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY IN ORDER, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE STATE'S PROGRAM. 
          YES. 
          YOUR MONEY, RIGHT, BUT IT HASN'T GONE AND GOTTEN COMMISSION APPROVAL YET, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE READING ON THE BOTTOM? THE PRIMARY, THE US 2 78 AND THE RAMPS HAVE BEEN APPROVED. 
          IT'S THE SECONDARIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED CURRENTLY FOR 2024. 
          AGAIN, JUROR SECOND. 
          THE SECONDARY GRANT. 
          YES. 
          STATE FUNDING. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M GONNA ASK FOR THOSE MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TO, TO BEAR WITH US FOR ABOUT 10 MINUTES AT MOST, UH, AT OUR LAST CTC MEETING. 
          UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM HERE TODAY AND WE MADE 
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THE DECISION TO MOVE APPROVAL, UM, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE COST WAS GOING TO BE FOR SOME, UH, SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE HAD PUT OUT TO BID. 
          AND THE BIDS HAVE COME IN YESTERDAY. 
          AND BRIAN, I'M GONNA LET YOU COME UP CUZ I'M GONNA BE ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE. 
          UH, THANK YOU CHAIR MCG GORDON. 
          SO JUST, UH, REAL QUICK, GO THROUGH A QUICK RECAP OF WHAT WE WENT OVER THE LAST MEETING. 
          WE'VE BROKEN THIS YEAR'S, UH, YEAR SIX PAVEMENT PROGRAM INTO THREE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS. 
          ONE'S GONNA BE PRESERVATION, WHICH IS GONNA BE MICROSURFACING AND SCRUB SEAL. 
          UM, THERE'S A ASPHALT ONE, WHICH IS GONNA BE YOUR TYPICAL OVERLAYS, MILLING FILLS, AND THEN REJUVENATOR, WHICH IS GONNA BE THE RECITE. 
          UM, WE, THE LAST ONE WE HAD RESURFACING. 
          Y'ALL, UH, VOTED TO APPROVE THE D O T ROADS ON THAT ONE, BUT NOT THE COUNTY ROADS. 
          SO THIS IS A BID THAT WAS RECEIVED BACK IN JANUARY. 
          YOU CAN SEE THIS, UM, 1.3 MILLION FOR THE COUNTY ROADS AND 2.2 FOR THE D O T ROADS THAT HAS, UH, 72,000 OF C E I THAT WE PERFORMED BY FME. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA BE BLYTHE. 
          THAT'S GOING, THAT WAS LOW BIDDER ON THAT ONE. 
          SORRY. 
          YOU WANNA GO THE NEXT ONE? THIS IS PRESERVATION, WHICH IS GONNA BE THE SCRUB SEAL AND THE MICROSURFACING. 
          THIS, UH, BIDS RE RECEIVED YESTERDAY, RECEIVED ONE BID FROM SLURRY PAVERS. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE ON THE COUNTY ROADS, WHICH IS A MICROSURFACING, IT'S $896,867 WITH A C E I BUDGET OF 23,000 863 50. 
          AND THEN THE D O T ROADS ARE A SCRUB SEAL, WHICH CAME IN AT 1.1 MILLION $476,783 IN C EI OF 21,550, WHICH IS GONNA BE PERFORMED BY ICE. 
          AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS GONNA BE THE REJUVENATOR, WHICH IS GOING TO BE REUNITE FROM PAYMENT TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH IS 319,480, WHICH THAT ONE WAS APPROVED AT THE LAST, UH, MEETING. 
          UM, WITH, BASED ON THE CURRENT BUDGET, UH, BALANCE, THERE IS ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS FULLY, UM, INCLUDING THE RESURFACING AND THE PRESERVATION CHAIRMAN GOR, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'LL BE CARRY FORWARD 4 MILLION AND I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? GOT A SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME AND EFFORTS TODAY. 
          I APPRECIATE OUR GUEST LECTURERS AND I APPRECIATE D O T COMING TO VISIT WITH US. 
          WE VERY MUCH ENJOY THE HAVING THEM HERE WITH US. 
          IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE SEE ME AFTER THE MEETING. 
          BUT WITH THAT MEETINGS ADJOURNED.
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