Feb 13, 2023 Community Services and Land Use Committee

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AND YOU CAN REACH THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND RAIN USE COMMITTEE MEETING ON FEBRUARY 13TH.

PLEASE RISE PLEASE. OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LITERACY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

SO MOVE THAT MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GLOVER TO HAVE A SECOND.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES- December 5, 2022]

THE AGENDA IS THROUGH THE MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 5TH, SOME OF WHICH SOME OF YOU ARE NOT ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME TO READ A MOTION FROM SOMEBODY WHO WAS ON DECEMBER 5TH MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE SECOND CIRCUIT LIKE HILLSMAN DOES WITHOUT OBJECTION . MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS COMMENTS TODAY?

[7. HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT UPDATE- FRED LEYDA, DIRECTOR]

FIRST THING UP IS GOING TO BE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND WE HAD SOME SLIDES IN OUR PACKET AND YOU'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE. YES.

OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS.

I ASKED GENERAL EMILY RAMIREZ. SHE WAS NEW TO THE TEAM AS THE OUTREACH SPECIALIST IN HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I'D LIKE TO BRING HER BACK AND JUST HAVE HER GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT SHE HAS DONE AND WHAT THE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON. IT'S BEEN A WHOLE YEAR.

ALMOST A YEAR. YES, MA'AM. I'M PLEASED TO WELCOME HOUSE.

OH, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. OH. IF ANYONE SEES MISS CONNIE I WAS WEARING IT FOR YOU AND HAS BEEN IN LEADERSHIP. YOU'VE WORKED WITH CONNIE HERE.

YOU'LL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR. YES, MA'AM.

GREAT. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

APRIL OF LAST YEAR WAS WHEN I TOOK THIS POSITION SO I HAVE SOME UPDATES FOR YOU AND SO WE CAN GET THAT COUNT. SO I'M JUST GOING TO BE PRESENTING ON THE PRESENT AND FUTURE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE HOMELESS SERVICES SYSTEM. JUST TO RECAP AND START, I'M GOING TO GIVE THE REINTRODUCTION OF THE DEFINITIONS THAT AS FAR AS THAT GOES FOR DEFINING HOMELESSNESS YOU'VE GOT YOUR HOMELESS, YOU'RE IMMINENTLY HOMELESS.

FEDERAL STATUTES THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD ALSO DEFINE HOMELESSNESS OR IS ACCEPTED AS A DEFINITION OF HOMELESSNESS AND THEN VICTIMS AND THEN UNDER THE HOMELESS SECTION THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CATEGORIES. ONE IS SHELTER AND THOSE CAN BE EMERGENCY SHELTER. DETENTION CENTERS OR DETAINED TRANSITIONAL OR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AND THEN WE HAVE UNSHELTERED WHICH IS YOUR CARS ABANDONED BUILDINGS, PARKS, SIDEWALKS AND SO FORTH. WHAT AREAS WOULD YOU PREFER WE LIKE TO GO THROUGH IT AND THEN QUESTIONS AT THE END. EITHER WAY HOWEVER YOUR IF YOU IF YOU PREFER TO ASK QUESTIONS I'VE PREPARED FOR YOU THE WAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO SINCE WE LAST NIGHT THE DEPARTMENT HAS I'VE BEEN FACILITATING THE RESIDENTIAL EMPOWERMENT COALITION. IT'S A COALITION THAT WAS STARTED AND NOW HAS 24 ORGANIZATIONS WORKING TOGETHER, ALL OF WHICH WORK DIRECTLY WITH HOUSING AND SECURITY OR PROVIDING HOUSING COUNSELING AS A SERVICE AND THEIR ORGANIZATION.

WITHIN THAT COALITION WE GATHERED DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, COMMUNITY LEADERS TO DO THE POINT IN TIME . IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE POINT IN TIME, IT'S A NATIONAL INITIATIVE THAT YOU HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN TO REQUEST FEDERAL FUNDING FROM HYDE. IT REQUIRES YOU TO GO OUT ON THE NIGHT THAT IS DETERMINED BY HUD AND YOU ROLL THE HOMELESS POPULATION THAT NIGHT SO YOU GO OUT INTO ENCAMPMENTS, YOU GO OUT INTO ABANDONED LOCATIONS OR WHEREVER THE HOMELESS POPULATION IS AND EVEN IN THE RAIN. OUR CAMP WAS JANUARY 25TH AND THE COUNT OCCURS USUALLY

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AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS AND WHAT WE CONTINUE TO DO AND I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT WHAT'S THAT COUNT? SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WE COUNTED A PRIMARY OF ABOUT 68 PEOPLE WHICH IS DEFINITELY A BIG IMPROVEMENT FOR TEAM AND THAT WAS IN THE ROOM.

SO A LOT OF THE TARGETED LOCATIONS THAT WE HAD SCOPED OUT BEFORE THE I MEAN WE WERE WORKING FOR MONTHS COMMUNICATING TALKING TO ORGANIZATIONS TO SEE WHERE ENCAMPMENTS WERE SO THAT WE COULD VOLUNTEER TO GLOBE LOCATIONS INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING PEOPLE GO OUT BLIND AND 68 WAS WHAT WE COUNTED BY THE END OF THAT EVENING.

AS OF RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE NUMBER FROM HUD. WHAT THEY WILL ACCEPT.

THANK YOU. I ALSO NEGLECTED TO MENTION THAT AS A PART OF THE RESIDENTIAL EMPOWERMENT COALITION AND IN THAT CASE IT WAS A PILOT PROGRAM IT'S THE DETENTION CENTER WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO START WORKING WITH SOMEONE WHO IS SELF DISCLOSED AS HOMELESS AND THEY GO INTO THE CENTER. WE CAN OFFER THEM HOUSING COUNSELING, ASSET MAPPING AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM TO PLAN TO FOR THEM TO NOT GO BACK INTO HOMELESSNESS. SO OUR NEXT STEPS AND I APOLOGIZE IF LIKE I'M STAMMERING. THIS ROOM NEVER GETS NOT INTIMIDATING SO TELL ME ABOUT THE WE WILL CONTINUE TO FACILITATE THE PROGRAM WITH EITHER A COUNTY DETENTION CENTER THE RESIDENTIAL EMPOWERMENT COALITION WILL CONTINUE TO FACILITATE THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING THE COALITION ITSELF AND WE ARE NOW GOING TO ENTER A PHASE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START LANDLORD ENGAGEMENT PROGRAMS TO HELP WITH THE HOUSING NEED FOR THESE POPULATION. WE WILL CONTINUE TO FACILITATE THE PROGRAM IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH COSETTE, COSETTE IS JOSIE'S SISTER PROGRAM AND WE ALSO GAINED ACCESS TO THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM WHICH IS A HUD DIRECT SYSTEM THAT IS NEEDED FOR NOT ONLY COUNTING BUT ALSO BEING ABLE TO OFFER SERVICES TO SOMEONE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN AREAS NOT EVEN HERE. SO ONE OF THE OPTIONS FOR HOUSING COUNSELING SOMETIMES DOES INCLUDE RELOCATION ON THEIR TERMS AND SO THAT PROGRAM ALLOWS US TO HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER AREAS. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO ALL OF THAT AND MORE. OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS WHAT'S CALLED FUNCTIONAL ZERO AND THAT'S THE IT'S WHEN SOMEONE IS ENTERING HOMELESSNESS WE'RE HELPING SOMEONE COME OUT OF IT SO THAT IT BECOMES A MORE BALANCED ENDING. HOMELESSNESS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS LIKELY TO EVER BE EXTINGUISHED IN ANY COMMUNITY BUT WE HOPE TO CREATE A BETTER BALANCE AND OFFER BETTER SERVICES FOR SOME. YES.

QUESTION YEAH, I KNOW DISCOVERED THAT WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

WE HAD A WE COULD DO A LOT OF THINGS INSIDE SO WHEN I CAMPAIGNED FOR THIS POSITION I WOULD YOU KNOW, PARK THE JEEP AND GO TALK IN HILTON HEAD SOUTH END.

I FOUND TWO ENCAMPMENTS AND MAYBE YOU CAN CONFIRM ONE WAS BEHIND IT AND CHEW ON IT IN ONE WAS BY THAT WATER TOWER. YEAH THERE'S A THIRD THAT'S WARD THREE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL AND YOU KNOW IT'S GOOD TO COLLIE IT'S GREAT TO BE DOING THIS.

GLAD YOU CAME HERE TONIGHT AND THERE'S A WAY WE CAN VOLUNTEER. I'D LIKE TO DO THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. WE SENT YOU. WE NOW KNOW WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT CONDUCTING THIS COUNT AND WITH THE GREATEST COLLABORATION THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS EVER HAD.

WE HAVE SO MUCH GREAT INFORMATION ON HOW TO PROCEED ARE THE YEARS COMING? WE WILL ALWAYS TAKE VOLUNTEERS OUT WITH US SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE 68 YES.

IS THAT AN UNSHELTERED OR IS THAT INCLUDING CHILDREN AND YOUNG CHILDREN ON THE STREET?

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EACH SHELTER HAS TO PRESENT THEIR NUMBERS. SO WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT.

WE LIVED STRICTLY FOR UNSHELTERED ARE STREET ENCAMPMENTS IN IN THE 68 COUNT MOSTLY NORTH OF THE LITTLE BROAD OR HONESTLY EVEN SPLIT EVEN SPLIT BETWEEN THE THREE LEFT IN THE HILTON HEAD AND EITHER YOU TALK ABOUT IN COLLABORATION.

YES SO I GUESS IF WE PLANS TO ADDRESS THE SHELTER I MEAN THE HOMELESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IT'S OKAY. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT. SO ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF CONDUCTING THIS COUNT THE WAY THAT WE DID IS FOR ANY ORGANIZATION TO REQUEST HUD FUNDING YOU HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COUNT AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE BEEN SO THAT IS NOW GOING TO OPEN DOORS TO THESE 24 ORGANIZATIONS AND HAVE ACCESS TO THAT BECAUSE THIS DATA IS TERRIBLE. SUPER. YEAH.

AND WHAT WERE SOME OF THE 24 ORGANIZATIONS THAT PARTICIPATED IN.

CAN YOU SAY AND I WANT TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING ELSE AND DO A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF EVERYONE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE LIST WE HAVE A LIST.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO. OKAY, AWESOME. WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU, JIM.

YES. WELL IN SITUATIONS WHERE THE HOMELESS FREQUENTS A BUSINESS ISN'T AN OWNER OF FOOD AND THAT INDIVIDUAL IS APPREHENDED, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? SO RIGHT NOW THE WAY THAT IT WORKS WELL, ONE OF TWO THINGS THE GOAL WITH THE PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE LAUNCHED IS THAT IF THAT IS THE CASE, THE DETENTION CENTER WILL LET THIS PERSON KNOW THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO CALL OUR SERVICES AND THEN WE CAN START WORKING WITH THEM ON NEEDS OR REFERRALS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ARE FACING AND THAT'S THE MEAT AND BONES OF OUR DEPARTMENT IS REFERRAL BASED SERVICES. SO THAT'S ONE THING. THE OTHER UNFORTUNATE AND TRUTHFUL PART BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER THAT'S NOT TRUE IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO TAKE PART IN THAT PROGRAM AND IF THEY JUST WANT TO BE RELEASED, THEY GET RELEASED AND IF THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN FRONT OF THAT BUSINESS AND THE CYCLE REVIEW OWNER WILL CALL AGAIN THEY WILL GET PICKED UP AGAIN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

[8. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING BEAUFORT COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 38, ARTICLE VII, SECTION 38-194, GREEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP, TERMS, ORGANIZATION TO FURTHER DEFINE THE BEAUFORT COUNTY GREEN SPACE PROGRAM ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP, TERMS, TERM LIMITS, MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, PROCEDURES, AND GEOGRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION]

CORRECT. AND THIS TO MAPS WE NEED TO DECIDE ON THE MAP TO RECOMMEND TO GO FORWARD ALL YEAR. ALL RIGHT. I THINK YOU SUMMED UP THE ORDINANCE PRETTY WELL. IT'S KIND OF GETTING EVERYTHING IN PLACE SO THAT ONCE THIS COMMITTEE IS APPOINTED THEY CAN BEGIN THEIR BUSINESS SO THEY HAVE ALL THE THINGS THAT DETAILS ABOUT HOW THEY OPERATE HAVE BEEN DECIDED AND PUT IN THE ORDINANCE SO UNDERSTAND DO A REAL QUICK RUN THROUGH THE IT ADDRESSES SEVERAL THINGS ONE IS WE TALKED ORIGINALLY THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN OCTOBER BEFORE THE END OF OCTOBER TO HELP TERMS WOULD BE STAGGERED AND SO THIS TAKES A STEP FURTHER AND TALKS ABOUT HOW IT WOULD BE STAGGERED.

SO IN THE FOUR COMMITTEE RULES THAT REPRESENT REGIONS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST THOSE WOULD START WITH THE INITIAL FOUR YEAR TERM IN THE REMAINING APPOINTMENTS WOULD BE A TWO YEAR TERM INITIALLY AND THE IDEA WAS WE DIDN'T WE WANTED TO PUT ALL THE GEOGRAPHIC REPRESENTATIVE ON EQUAL FOOTING . THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY

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IT'S PRETTY MUCH WORD FOR WORD WHAT IS ON THE APPLICATION IT COVERS SEIZURES AND IT BASICALLY SAYS THE COMMITTEE SHALL MEET QUARTERLY. SO IT'S KIND OF ESTABLISHED AS A MINIMUM AND THEN ALSO IT SAYS THAT EVERY JULY OR THE NEXT MEETING AFTER JULY THAT THEY HOLD THEY WOULD APPOINT A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. SO JUST SOME BASIC GROUND RULES WE LOOKED AT OTHER ORDINANCES ESTABLISHING COMMITTEES JUST TO MAKE SURE THESE THINGS WERE IN PLACE. IT ESTABLISHES YOU SAY EVERY YEAR THEY'LL HAVE NEW ELECTION LEADERSHIP. YES, SIR. COVERS CONFLICT EXCUSE ME CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND THEN FINALLY AND THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT IN JANUARY IN HOW WE DEFINED NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN EASTERN AND WESTERN DISTRICTS, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT IN THE ORDINANCE AS WELL.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER OF THAT TIME COUNCIL RECOMMENDED WE HAD TWO OPTIONS THAT WE PRESENTED IT RECOMMEND THAT KIND OF A HYBRID OF OPTION B AND SO WHAT WE HAVE ACCORDING TO MAPS ONE IS THE ORIGINAL OPTION B THAT COUNCIL LOOKED AT BACK IN JANUARY WHICH BASICALLY LOOKED AT GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES THAT'S FOLLOWED NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST AND THEN MADE A FEW MODIFICATIONS TO PROVIDE MORE EQUAL POPULATION REPRESENTATION AND THEN AT THE COUNCIL MEETING THE REQUEST WAS MADE TO BRING IN A LITTLE MORE OF SOUTHERN VIEW FOR COUNTY OR AREA SOUTH OF THE BROAD INTO THE NORTHERN DISTRICT. AND SO THIS MAP REPRESENTS WE TOOK IN TALLAHASSEE AND SPRING ISLANDS THAT SEEM TO BE A NATURAL GEOGRAPHICAL LINE TO DRAW AND THIS IS IT SHOWS THE POPULATION BREAKDOWN. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ALREADY REGARDING THE MAPS AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LOT AND I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO BRING IN MORE POPULATION FOR THE NORTH DISTRICT BUT ACTUALLY FROM A NATURAL RESOURCE AND ENVIRONMENT ASPECT I THINK THE NORTH WOULD BE BETTER NOT BRINGING IN KILOWATTS IN SPRING ISLAND. THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT. IT DOESN'T BRING IN THAT MUCH MORE POPULATION.

YOU LOOK AT WILDLIFE BORDERS AND LARGE PIECES OF LAND THAT NORTH REGION IS WHERE IN THE EAST TOO BUT PARTICULARLY NORTH IS WHERE THE LARGE PARCELS WERE MET AND I'M NOT SURE WHO THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT AREA WOULD HAVE MUCH IN COMMON WITH THE WEST WHERE WE HAVE IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A URBAN THE SMALLER PARCELS AVAILABLE TO GET WITH THIS MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GREENSPACE BUT DO YOU WANT TO GO ON I THINK UNLESS YOU WANT TO JUST DISCUSS IS THAT ACTUALLY THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE ORDINANCE I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT NEXT TUESDAY THE 21ST CUT OFF DATE FOR APPLICATIONS AND WE'VE BEEN GETTING THEM IN STEADILY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD APPLICATIONS I'VE HEARD VERY HIGHLY QUALIFIED PEOPLE WHO'VE APPLIED IN JUST OUTSTANDING NOW AND TALKING TO MR. CAVANEY SOMEONE COULD REPRESENT THEY COULD LIVE SAY IN THE SOUTH DISTRICT BUT REPRESENT ANOTHER REGION AND I UNDERSTAND OH NO, NO IT'S A NO IT ACTUALLY THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE.

MR. CUMMINGS AND I MAY HAVE GOTTEN THAT CONFUSED AND THEN THEY HAVE TO LIVE PHYSICALLY IN THAT DISTRICT FOR YOU. YEAH. OKAY.

THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES NOT IS THE ONE THAT'S AT LARGE RIGHT? ONE AT LARGE.

OKAY, MAYBE THAT'S WHERE I GET TO BE APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ONE OF THESE THREE BUT THE FOUR WHO LIVE IN AND THAT'S THE OTHER REASON THAT I THINK THAT MET ME THAT YEAH I DISCUSS WAS DISCUSSED ALL THE CHANGES AND I WILL SAY THAT'S SPECIFIED

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THE COMMENTS, SIR. SORRY, I THINK OKAY. I THINK I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THE OUTSTANDING JOB OF BRINGING TOGETHER EXACTLY WHAT WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE GOING FORWARD AS FAR AS THE MAP GOES, EITHER ONE IS ACCEPTABLE TO ME MY PERSONAL OPINION BECAUSE IT IS NOT SO MUCH THE REPRESENTATION HERE THE JOB OF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO LIVES IN THE NORTHEAST SOUTHWEST IS TO ENSURE WHEN THAT COMMITTEE MEETS THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES REGULATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SET UP BY THE ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE STATE LAW REGARDING THE EXPENDITURE OF THOSE FUNDS. SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PICK AND CHOOSE AND SAY THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT YOU SHOULD BE GOING AFTER.

IT'S GOING TO BE A REVERSE IS YOU HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY DOES IT COMPLY WITH THE LAW YOU REMEMBER WHICH ONE YOUR TERM FOR THE LEADERSHIP IS A PROHIBITION AGAINST CONSECUTIVE TERM FOR LEADERSHIP? NO. YOU KNOW THEY CAN BE REALLY COULD BE REAPPOINTED DURING THE ENTIRE AND THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN AND TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE OR MEMBER OF THE DELEGATION WAS THERE ANOTHER ONE IN THE GEOGRAPHIC CONTINUITY AND HOW WE DEAL WITH A MEMBER OF IN TERMS OF LEADERSHIP OR IN TERMS OF HOW THEY'RE ABILITY DOESN'T MATTER WHERE WE KNOW RIGHT. IT WOULDN'T COUNT SO LONG AS THAT THE TERM THEIR TERM IS INITIALLY TWO YEARS AND THEN THEY COULD SERVE AN ADDITIONAL FOUR YEARS AFTER THAT THEY CONTINUE ON A LITTLE LONGER AND COUNTY COUNCIL MAY NOT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. IT'S A QUESTION. YES, THANK YOU.

WELL, I I'M LIKE JILL, I DON'T YOU KNOW AND BUT I DO THIS A LITTLE BIT ONCE YOU SORT OF LIKE A TRANSIT MEETS IN BETWEEN WE DO A LOT OF PARTICULAR SPRING ISLAND BY THE CONSERVATION THAT WE DO ON SPRING BUT YOU KNOW I CAN GO EITHER WAY AS FAR AS REPRESENTATION LET ME ASK YOU THIS THE THE GUIDELINES FOR SELECTING PROPERTY HERE IS YOU GET TO COME LATER. NO AND THAT'S HOW IT'S YOU KNOW HOW THEY GOING TO FUNCTION AND YOU KNOW LIKE THE LAND ON EACH OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS ETC. ETC. THAT'S NOT IN HERE.

SO THAT'S TO COME LATER. YES I SPEAK TO AGAIN THIS WAY THIS WARDEN IS SET UP IS THIS

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LET'S LET'S PUT IT ON. YEAH THAT'S ALL GOING FORWARD. YEAH.

SO WE SIT BACK AND OCTOBER COUNTY COUNCIL APPROVED AN ORDINANCE THAT SET UP KIND OF THE GENERAL GUIDELINES OF THE PROGRAM AND SO THE FIRST STEP SINCE THE REFERENDUM WAS SUCCESSFUL WAS TO GET THE COMMITTEE UP RUNNING AND THEN ONCE THE COMMITTEE IS UP AND RUNNING THEIR FIRST JOB IS TO ESTABLISH A PROGRAM GUIDELINES AND THE RANKING CRITERIA FOR PROJECT. SO THOSE THINGS ARE YET TO BE DETERMINED BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST JOB OF THIS COMMITTEE. AND SO THE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN PLACE AND HOW WE KIND OF GUARDRAILS THAT TO KIND OF GIVE SOME GENERAL IDEAS OF THE CRITERIA SELECTION CRITERIA THE THINGS THAT THEY OUGHT TO LOOK AT WHEN THEY ESTABLISH THE PROGRAM THAT THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE THEIR FIRST JOB AND THE GOAL IS TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING AND APPOINTED IN APRIL TWO MONTHS LATER AND THEY WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH PROGRAM GUIDELINES AND THEN OKAY THAT THOSE OF QUESTIONS WILL BE OKAY . YOU KNOW THEY ARE TRUE I HAVE YES.

WHAT ARE THOSE CONSTRAINTS? WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS TO BE PROPERTY IN MAYBE OF THE DENSITY ITEMS THE PROGRAM GREENSPACE ARE THERE CONSTRAINTS NOW BUT CAN THIS WHAT COULD THIS MONEY BE USED FOR OUTSIDE OF DENSITY IN PROPERTY JUST 100 ACRES.

I MEAN WE HAVE SPECIFICITY AS TO WHAT IS ALLOWED FOR EXPEND UNDER THE GREEN SPACE LEGISLATION EIGHT LEGISLATIVE ACTS THIS GROUP WILL DARE CHARGE IS TO ENSURE THAT IT NEEDS ANY OR MORE OF THOSE CRITERIA. COULD YOU CITE THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT OR THE IN THIS PART ACTUALLY ONE OF THE COUNTIES WEBSITE THAT WE DO HAVE GREEN SPACE PROGRAM WEBSITE AND IT POINTS TO BOTH THE ORDINANCE AT THE STATE LEGISLATION WAS ADOPTED TO ESTABLISH A PROGRAM GUIDELINES AND THEN THE ORDINANCE THAT COUNTY ADOPTED AND BOTH AND I WILL SAY THAT THOSE TWO THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S A BRAND NEW PROGRAM. SO WE'RE KIND OF WE'RE WORKING OUT WHAT WE HAVE TO TO TRY THIS. WE'RE BREAKING NEW GROUND WE WILL YOU KNOW YOU KNOW.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT YES SIR YOUR I DON'T SEE IT IN THE ORDINANCE MAYBE GIVE US FREE TIME WARNING. SO NOW WHEN THE COMMITTEE IS PUT TOGETHER WHO WILL BE SELECTING THAT COMMITTEE? WHO WILL SELECT WHO'S GOING TO BE APPEARING ON THE SO WE'VE TALKED THIS WHEN WE STARTED WE HAD LOOKED AT HAVING A COMMITTEE AND THE PROBLEM IS YOU WANT TO HELP ME OUT HERE MADE UP OF STAFF AND ANY REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS COMMITTEE WHO WANTS TO HELP WITH THE FIRST YOU KNOW, LOOKING THROUGH THE ORIGINAL OR THE EXISTING STACK OF APPLICATIONS AND THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE THE NARROWED DOWN TO A SMALLER SUBSET THAT WOULD BE INTERVIEWED, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE SAME WAY OF , YOU KNOW, SCREENING FOR HIRING SOMEBODY BUT RIGHT SET SO WE'RE ALL IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY WITH REGARD TO THE CREATION OF THIS COMMITTEE.

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SEVEN PEOPLE ON THIS THERE ARE SEVEN PEOPLE WHO ARE SELECTING THOSE SEVEN PEOPLE TO FORM THAT LAND USE COMMITTEE WITH WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE SERVICES COMMITTEE WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL WHICH WILL DO THE APPOINTMENT COUNTY COUNCIL THROUGH THE APPOINTMENT YES SIR. SO SO FOR US DO YOU HAVE ANY THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. OH OKAY SO I'LL GO BACK THROUGH REAL QUICK ALL WE'RE GOING TO COMPILE ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS FROM EACH GEOGRAPHICAL. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLETE. EVERYTHING IS THERE THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS ARE MET. WE WILL BRING THAT TO COMMITTEE AND IF IF THERE ARE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT WOULD LIKE TO HELP STAFF DO THAT, THAT'S GREAT.

IF STAFF WILL IT WE'LL BRING ALL OF THEM BACK TO COMMITTEE WITH OUR CONTROLS.

THEN THE COMMITTEE WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AND THEN COUNCIL WILL APPOINT ALL OF THE POSITIONS AND AND I'LL SEND THE INTERVIEW SELECTED GROUP SUBGROUP WITHIN THE SO THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS SO THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE ONCE THIS COMMITTEE DECIDES WHO THEY WANT TO INTERVIEW IN THE INTERVIEW ALL OF THEM DO WANT TO WRITE THEN THAT WILL BE PART OF THE VETTING PROCESS THAT THIS COMMITTEE DOES AND THEN ALL OF THAT WILL LEAD TO A RECOMMENDATION FROM ALL SEVEN POSITIONS THAT WILL BE MADE THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHO GETS THE SEATS, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND SEVEN SEVEN ALL SEVEN COUNCIL WILL BE HOPING TO GET THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SEVEN COUNCIL WILL GET EVERYTHING THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND BE ALL BASED UPON INPUT FROM THE DELIBERATIVE SEAT IF THEY THINK SOMEONE ELSE MAYBE SHOULD BE ON THERE AND ONE PERSON SHOULD BE OTHER WORDS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME FROM THE SEVEN RECOMMENDATION COMMITTEE SO CORRECT. YES.

IN THE INTERVIEWS OF COURSE. YEAH. OKAY WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT.

I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DIFFERENCE MECHANISM BUT I PERSONALLY LIKE TO INVOLVE MYSELF IN I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU MENTIONED BEFORE YOU'RE FROM THE SAME DISTRICT IN THOSE MEETINGS THAT COUNCIL TAKES. I WANT TO GET ALL OF THAT. I WANT TO BE A PART OF SOLVING THE RISK. YES, I DO WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS ONLY WORK THAT I LIKE TO AT LEAST SEE THOSE NAMES MY DISTRICT IS KEEPING IN KEEPING WITH THE CURRENT PROCEDURES THAT'S BEEN SET UP THIS YEAR. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES DOING THE INTERVIEWS AND LOOKING AT THE COMMITTEE NAMES BUT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR WHO'S ON THE COMMITTEE SHOULD REALLY THE BOARD SHOULD REALLY COME OUT OF FINANCE ADMINISTRATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION WILL RECOMMEND TO YOU CAN RECOMMEND TO FINANCE ECONOMIC WELL AND ADMINISTRATION AND THEN THEY WILL MAKE THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL FOR YOU ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE SO AND I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTEP WITH THIS COMMENT BUT I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO COME UP WHOEVER WANTS TO PARTICIPATE PROVIDED WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM WE COULD HAVE A LOT THE STAFF MEETING TO GO THROUGH THOSE IF WE HAVE A QUORUM AND IT IS THE WORLD COUNCIL ERIC LET ME IF I'M WRONG BUT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO IT PUBLICLY IF THE COUNCIL SO DESIRE SO HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT WE WILL ACCOMMODATE IT. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT IS OUR QUESTION? I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT

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OH HOW MANY OF THESE HAVE YOU SEEN AS WELL WAS 121. SO FAR 27 OUR ADMINISTRATOR SPOKE TO THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP GROUP A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST AND I KNOW MANY OF US HAVE GOTTEN CALLS.

THAT'S GOOD. YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. AND WE WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY GEOGRAPHICAL AREA OF YOU KNOW REPRESENTED I THINK THE WRATH OF YOUR AREA IF I'M GOING TO BE A PARENT NOW I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE AND SOME REALLY GOOD APPLICANTS SO IT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH WHICH IS A GOOD PERSON THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR LARSON TO ONLINE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY, LORD.

YOU KNOW SORRY. NO, I'M ON MUTE SO NO NO QUESTIONS AT ALL.

UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS VERY WELL. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. I THINK THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION IS WHICH MAN WHAT A AGREEMENT ON ALL THE OTHER TERMS THAT ARE IN THIS CAPACITY ON TO FULL COUNCIL ANYONE WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING? I THINK THEY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH A BRAND NEW SUBJECT BRAND NEW THING. ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS ON THE MAP? YOU NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT ONE OF THOSE MAPS. I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT WE ADOPT OPTION B I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY.

ALL ANY WITHOUT OBJECTION WILL ADOPT OPTIONAL LEAVE MAP. YEAH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING? YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO BE SENT ON THE COUNCIL. OH, YES, I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

KELSEY ALL RIGHT. WITHOUT OBJECTION IT WILL GO FORWARD TIME.

CORRECT IT BE ON GENDER. IT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN.

[9. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO UNDERTAKE DUE DILIGENCE AND DISCUSSIONS/NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD IN ORDER TO TRANSFER THE TITLE OF THE LOBECO LIBRARY TO BEAUFORT COUNTY.]

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SO THIS SITE IS JUST ACROSS THE WALE BRANCH BRIDGE ON THE LEFT IT WAS AN OLD SCHOOL I BELIEVE IT WAS BUILT BACK IN THE LATE TWENTIES OR THIRTIES HAVE BEEN EXPANDED A COUPLE OF TIMES.

THIS PICTURE IS THE RIGHT IF YOU'RE STANDING ON THE STREET LOOKING AT IT THIS IS THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. THE COUNTY IS IN A LONG TERM LEASE.

THIS IS WHERE A LIBRARY IS LOCATED. CURRENTLY THE LIBRARY THE COUNTY PUT CONSIDERABLE RESOURCES INTO THIS ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO COMPLETELY RENOVATED THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING. IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT PICTURE THIS IS THE LEFT SIDE AND THIS IS THE PORTION THAT NEEDS TO BE RENOVATED. IT APPEARS BONES ARE GOOD WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE THIS IS THE ACTUAL ABILITY SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE WITH THE SITE.

IT'S AGE NOBODY'S CURRENTLY IN THIS BUILDING AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS INDICATED THEY DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR IT AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO PASS THIS ON PERHAPS TO THE COUNTY SO THAT WE WOULD TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF RENOVATING AND THEN MAINTAINING THE BUILDING, MOVING. I DO KNOW THAT IT NEEDS A SEPTIC SYSTEM.

THERE ARE SOME OLD PORTABLE CLASSROOMS BEHIND THIS BUILDING THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED AND THEN WHEN WE GET INTO THIS BUILDING LIKE I SAY THE BONES APPEAR TO BE GOOD.

YOU WOULD NEED EXTENSIVE RENOVATION WHICH WE WOULD PROPOSE USING THE MONEY TO DO SO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS MAKING EVERYBODY AWARE THAT THIS IS WHAT OUR PLAN IS AND TO ASK FOR YOUR TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DUE DILIGENCE AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS IN MORE DETAIL WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ULTIMATELY TO BRING A PROPOSAL BACK TO YOU COUNTY COUNCIL FOR PERHAPS TAKING TITLE FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THIS PROJECT COMMENT QUESTIONS YES.

YES THE LIBRARY ITSELF WHAT KIND OF SYSTEM IS IT THAT WE IT IS A LONG TERM LEASE I THINK SOMETHING IS IT'S ON THE SEPTIC SYSTEM NOW BUT THE SEPTIC SYSTEM IS HAVING ISSUE OKAY SO IT'S ONE SEPTIC SYSTEM FOR BOTH BUILDINGS. YES, YES SIR.

IT'S ALL ONE PROPERTY. FOUR ACRE PROPERTY. YEAH, IT'S IT'S CONNECTED VIA BREEZEWAY BUT IT HAS UTILITIES AND SEWER IS NOT AVAILABLE THERE, YOU KNOW NOT ALL THAT'S NOT A YES INSPECTION FOR THE USE OF THE LIABILITY AND WHAT WOULD IT COST TO PUT THIS WHOLE THING TOGETHER? THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION. WE THINK WITH THE MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE WE CAN MITIGATE SOME OF THE ROOF LEAKS WE COULD REPLACE THE GROUP, BRING THE OUTSIDE UP TO SPEED. I BELIEVE THERE IS SOME ASBESTOS IN THE BUILDING. WE WOULD HAVE THAT REMOVED AND WE SHOULD HAVE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT ONCE WE GET INTO IT HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO COST WE SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH TO PREP THE INSIDE AND RENOVATE AT LEAST A THIS IS PROBABLY WORTH THOUSANDS SQUARE FEET MAYBE A YES SIR THAT'S PRETTY BIG BUILDING OUR INTENT WHAT WE WOULD DO OUTSIDE GET THE OUTSIDE DONE, PREP THE INSIDE AND THEN PARTITION OFF IN THE SIDE THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE LIBRARY. WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH RENOVATING THAT FIRST AND WE THINK WE CAN GET THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THAT DONE WITH THE MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS WE HAVE OR IF THE ADDITIONAL MONIES ARE APPROPRIATED WE WILL DO ALL OF IT AND I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO RENOVATE THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

IT GOES TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THAT INTO THE EXISTING LIBRARY THAT THE WHOLE WHOLE BUILDING. SO THIS WOULD BE A SENIOR WELLNESS CENTER OUR SENIOR PROGRAM WOULD MOVE IN HERE WE WOULD PROVIDE A COMMUNITY SPACE FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO DO AND THEN FOR IN IN RELATION TO THE ARPA MONEY IT HAS TO BE USED FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS SO OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO DO HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAMING FOR OUR SENIORS TO A DEGREE THAT QUALIFIES UNDER ARPA. SO THAT WE DON'T RUN AFOUL ON THE EXPENDITURES OF THOSE MONEY WHICH WE ALREADY DO. WE PROVIDE FOOD, WE DO EXERCISE CLASSES, WE DO ALL OF THIS NOW BUT WE'RE IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS AND WE WOULD CONSOLIDATE THOSE INTO THIS BILL. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE LIBRARY LIBRARIES IS MY WORDS NOTHING WILL KEEP US GOING. WE HAVE DIFFERENT USE FOR INSIDE OF THE FACILITY.

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THE LIBRARY IS A RELATIVELY SMALL LIBRARY AND I THINK FROM OUR DISCUSSION AND OUR INTENT IS THAT AND THE INNOVATION WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND THE LIBRARY INTO A PORTION OF THAT NEW BUILDING IS THAT NOT WHERE WE HAD TO EXPAND THE LIBRARY TO MAKE IT MAKE IT LARGER THAN WHAT IT IS? SO WE WOULD TALK ABOUT EXPANDING THE LIBRARY THAT CAN TAKE ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT LOOKS. I DON'T WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE MOVING BOOKS AND SHELVING AND STUFF LIKE THAT INTO THE LIBRARY BUT THE LIBRARY IS THERE AND THEY HAVE STAFF THAT CAN HELP US MANAGE THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS FACILITY AND WE WOULD HAVE MEETING SPACE, WE WOULD HAVE SOME OFFICE SPACE IN THERE PERHAPS THE MEDICAL FOLKS NONPROFITS COULD USE THERE WOULD BE A SMALL KITCHENETTE FOR DIFFERENT EVENTS SUCH AS THE LIBRARY MANAGES ANY SPACE LIKE THAT KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY THE SMALLER SPACE THAT WE MEET IN FOUR COUNTY COUNCIL MEETINGS AT SAINT HELENA THIS WOULD HAVE THE SAME FEEL BUT IT WOULD THE PROGRAMING BE SPECIFIC FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS SENIORS BUT IT WOULD BE PART OF THE LIBRARY . WELL I'M I'M MORE I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE THE DISCUSSION WE HAD WAS RELEVANT THAT THE LIBRARY WOULD BE EXPANDED INTO THIS BUILDING A PORTION SO THAT WE HAVE MORE SPACE PROVIDED FOR LIBRARY SERVICES.

THE CURRENT SPACE THAT THE FOOTPRINT THAT THE LIBRARY IS ON NOW IS RELATIVELY SMALL AND IT DOES NOT MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE LIBRARY PROVIDING THE SERVICES AS IT DOES SOME OTHER AREAS AND SO IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT OF THE CURRENTLY VERY UTILIZING THIS THEN I DON'T I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE THE RELEVANCE THEN SURE. SO WE ADDRESS THE ARPA MONIES SPECIFICALLY HAS TO BE SPENT ON A PLACE THAT IS DEDICATED FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP THAT THIS IS A FAIRLY LARGE BUILDING AND WE DON'T ENVISION ENCOMPASSING THE WHOLE BUILDING FOR THAT PURPOSE. SO IT IS POSSIBLE WE DON'T WANT THE FUNDING SITTING ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. IT IS MOST CERTAINLY POSSIBLE IF WE WANT TO PUT BOOKSHELVES, COMPUTERS, THINGS THAT NATURE IN THIS BUILDING WE CAN DO IT. IT JUST WON'T BE WOULD BE ARPA FUNDS BUT WE WOULD OWN THE BUILDING. WE WOULD CONTROL THAT NARRATIVE AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT SPENDING HEALTH AND WELLNESS ARPA MONEY AGAIN ONLY HALF A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS FOR EACH LOCATION THAT'S NOT GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN THIS LOCATION SO WE CAN'T USE THAT MONEY AND HAVE DOLLARS TO DO LIBRARY SERVICES.

IT HAS TO BE RELATED TO THE AND TO PROVIDING YOU KNOW SO YES SO WE CONNECT AND WHAT MR. JOHNSON SAID TECHNICALLY IF LIBRARY SERVICES USE PART OF THE BUILDING FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR CHILDREN BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE LIBRARIES THIS BIG LITERALLY AND THERE ISN'T ROOM FOR CHILDREN TO HAVE 3 HOURS OR TO DO ACTIVITIES OR WHATEVER.

SO WE COULD HYPOTHETICALLY EXPAND THAT TO OFFER LIBRARY SERVICES HEALTHY WALLS FOR CHILDREN MEETING ROOM I MEAN YEAH. MEETING ROOMS. YEAH SURE. I MEAN WE COULD HAVE A COMPUTER LAB THAT'S DEDICATED FOR THE PRIMARY USE BEING TELEHEALTH. THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT FACETS TO THIS BUT THE FIRST HURDLE IS TAKING OWNERSHIP THE BUILDING AND APPROPRIATING THE OFFER MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE ON A TIMELINE I THINK 2026 WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT EXTENDED A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS IF WE LOOK AT OTHER PLACES IT DOESN'T GO VERY FAR. SO YOU KNOW, THE THE VISION FOR THIS IS WE USE THE MONEY WE PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, WE REITERATE THAT PORTION OF THE BUILDING AND THEN AS OTHER MONIES ARE ALLOCATED TO THIS BUILDING, YOU KNOW, SKY'S THE LIMIT ON THAT PORTION BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THE ARPA MONEY HAS TO BE USED FOR HEALTH LOANS AND IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT MONEY HERE WE HAVE TO DEDICATE THE SPACE FOR THAT. IT TAKES MANY DIFFERENT FORMS SO TODAY TO GET BACK TO WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA ONLY THING WE NEED TO DO IS RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO UNDERTAKE UNDERTAKE DUE DILIGENCE AND DISCUSSION. HOW MUCH WILL THAT COST TO DO ABOUT SO BECAUSE NO MONEY IS EXCHANGING WE DON'T SUPPORT LOOK WE NEED TO GET AN APPRAISAL.

THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE LIBRARY DISTRICT I'M SORRY WITH THE

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I CAN WORK WITH YOUR CITY STAFF AND PERHAPS WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL SO THAT WOULD BE TO DO THAT WOULD BE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO ENTER INTO ANY NEGOTIATION TO GET REALLY DOWN IN THE WEEDS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WITHOUT COUNSEL KNOWING AND GIVING US THE BLESSING TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE IF THE ANSWER IS NO THEN THERE'S NO POINT IN EVEN GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.

OKAY SO DO WE HAVE MOTION TO GO FORWARD TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL JUST TO UNDERTAKE DUE DILIGENCE? YES SIR. THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN DAWSON SECOND BY NOT HAVING ANY DISCUSSION MORE DISCUSSION.

JUST ONE OTHER THING I THINK FOR THE PUBLIC WHO WATCHES THESE SOME PEOPLE DO I NEVER THOUGHT THEY WATCHED THE LIBRARY ONCE BUT I DO WE SHOULD PROBABLY TRY TO AVOID USING OUR INSS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU PERSON IN THE WORLD KNOWS WHAT IN OUR IS. THEY MAY THINK IT'S AARP IS A VERY GOOD POINT SNOWDEN 4000 SQUARE FEET IS THAT THE SCHOOL THE LIBRARY DOESN'T GET AND IS CLOSE TO THAT GIVEN YOU KNOW HOW BIG THE EXISTING LIBRARY IS THIS BEING THE 22,500 SQUARE FEET I GUESS AND THAT'S A GUESS BUT YEAH YOU SORT THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL. OH I JUST NOTICED THE PICTURE.

WELL WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WE START HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH THE DOE RIGHT. NO WITHOUT OBJECTION. IN OBJECTION.

[10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO AWARD RFQ#112322 FOR WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY/US 278 CORRIDOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW TO CBB (Fiscal Impact: Final contract amount $197,813)]

LOOKS ONE NUMBER TEN RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO AWARD RFQ 1123224 WILLIAM HILL PARKWAY SLASH 278 CORRIDOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW TO THE CB CONTRACT UNDER NICE 7013 YES THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS THAT CAN NATURAL RESOURCES AND LAND USE BUT WE'RE DUE TO A TIME THAT'S RIGHT TYPICALLY WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY TAKE A LOT OF THINGS NEED TO THE USER FINANCE BUT I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HEARING THIS TODAY AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY AS A COUNCIL SO WHAT THIS IS THIS IS OUR JULY 2ND INDEPENDENT REVIEW ON THE 217 THIS WAS IN THE WAY THAT WE AGREED UPON AND LAST FALL THE SEPTEMBER-OCTOBER TIMEFRAME OUR BEST WAS TO STUDY WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE EXISTING TO DATE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO UPDATE FROM A THIRD PERSPECTIVE AND THEIR POINT OF VIEW AND OBVIOUSLY TO GET SOMEBODY INDEPENDENT FROM THE PROJECT WHO HASN'T WORKED ON THERE.

SO IT'S POSSIBLE SOMEBODY FROM OUTSIDE OF THE STATE SO WE WORKED TOGETHER WE HAD THREE PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTY STAFF AND PEOPLE'S EFFORT TO GET COMMITTEE AT THE SOLICITATION PUT THAT OUT IN OCTOBER AND HELD PRE-BID MEETING AND THEN RECEIVED A RESPONSE AND THANK YOU THE FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE IN THE PROPOSAL MEETING AND ONLY DOWN TO ABOUT A LIST PROPOSAL THAT COMPANY WAS CB WE WENT THROUGH OUR NORMAL RANKING AND PROCESS AND REVIEW PROCESS AS NORMAL AND THEY WERE VERY QUALIFIED. THEY'RE A FIRM OUT OF MISSOURI THIS TRANSPORTATION INTEREST THAT THEY RUN SIMILAR INDEPENDENT REVIEWS ON VARIOUS OTHER PROJECTS THEY'VE DONE A HOST OF TRANSPORTATION DESIGN, TRAFFIC DESIGN, INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT SIGNALS SO THAT WE IN THE SCOPE WAS A CHECKBOX SO AS A RESULT THE SIX MEMBER COMMITTEE FELT CONFIDENT IN THIS EVEN THOUGH THAT WE HAD ONE ON OFFER WE FELT LIKE THEY WERE VERY QUALIFIED TO DO THE PROPOSED WORK TO WE WE WENT BACK AND FORTH THE AND THE GET A C AND SCOOP AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS WITH THE GROUP AND CAME UP WITH A CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $179,830. WE PUT A 10% CONTINGENCY ON THERE AS WE NORMALLY DO WITH ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT OF $197,813.

THIS WOULD BE FUNDED OUT OF THE EXISTING PROJECT FROM HERE AGAIN WE WOULD IF APPROVED TODAY WE WOULD TAKE IT TO COUNCIL THIS EVENING AND THEN WE'LL GET STARTED RIGHT AWAY.

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BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I THINK WE ALL I THINK THEY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THEIR INDEPENDENT TEND TO AND NOT ONLY QUESTION I THINK MR. GREENWAY AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY WAS WHY WOULD THE COUNTIES SPEND THE MONEY IF THE TOWN IS GOING TO DO SOME INDEPENDENT STUDY THE SAME THING AND HOW LONG ARE YOU GOING TO RECTIFY ANY DIFFERENCES THERE? THAT'S THE PIECE I CAN GIVE YOU SOME GOOD ANSWER TO THAT.

SO I DO BELIEVE THEIR STUDY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN HOW THEY PLAN ON APPROACHING THE PROCESS. I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOME CITIZEN STAKEHOLDERS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE COORDINATION ON THE PUBLIC INTERFACE. WE'RE LOOKING MORE ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE AND THE REASON WHY THIS IS A VALID TO MOVE FORWARD VERSUS JUST GOING TO TOWN ON IT IS ONE I THINK IT GIVES US INSIGHT ON ON HOW THE HOW THIS INDEPENDENT REVIEW WHERE WE'RE THE HOLDERS OF THE CONTRACT AND THE PROJECT AT LARGE SO WE HAVE COMMITMENTS WITH THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK WITH EOG AND THE SCHEDULE. SO THIS MAKES SURE THAT WHAT COMES OUT OF THE STUDY STAYS ON SCHEDULE AND STAYS ON TASK. SO I THINK IT'S A MEANINGFUL STUDY BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ANSWERS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS WILL DEFINITELY HIT. NOW ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS OUT THERE THAT THAT HAVE BEEN POSED THAT THIS MAY NOT ADDRESS? POSSIBLY QUITE POSSIBLY.

BUT I THINK THE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT ARE OUT THERE WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THIS AND I REALLY LIKE THE BIG THING THAT WE GET OUT OF THIS STUDY IS THAT IF THERE IS A PROJECT BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE EXISTING ENGINEERING DESIGN IS FOR DOORS IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THE TERMINAL BUT NOT COMPLETELY THIS IS COMPLETELY BEYOND THE TERMINAL AND SAY WE DO THIS THE JOINT SECTION IS THERE AN ISSUE ON THE TERMINAL AND THIS WILL GIVE US THE ANSWER TO THAT. AND WHAT I MEAN IS ARE WE FINISHING A TRAFFIC ISSUE FURTHER DOWN AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER RIGHT NOW BUT DO KNOW THE SECTION OF THE CORRIDOR WILL BE IMPROVED WITH OUR PROJECT THIS WILL HELP US ANSWER THE REST OF THE QUESTION ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY WE'LL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MOVE THIS TO COUNCIL YOU HAVE A SECOND SET WITHOUT OBJECTION THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD TO FULL COUNCIL THANK YOU OKAY. NUMBER 12 WHO'S RECOMMEND APPROVAL IN THE OH GARVEY YES I HAD CHECKED IT JUST AMONG COMMENTS TODAY. OKAY.

[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO LIST GARVIN-GARVEY HOUSE IN RECONSTRUCTION ERA NATIONAL HISTORIC NETWORK]

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HERE IS YOUR HOME TOWN OF BLUFFTON. IF YOU COULD PROVIDE MORE DETAILS IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS AN HONORIFIC TITLE THAT WOULD NOT PLACE ANY MORE RESTRICTIONS THAN WHAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S CURRENTLY LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY TO THE BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IT WOULD GIVE THE PROPERTY MORE VISIBILITY. THERE'S CURRENTLY I BELIEVE PROPERTIES IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE ON THAT NETWORK SEVEN OR IN NORTHERN COUNTY ONE IS IN HILTON HEAD.

SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE. SO WITH THAT YOU KNOW BECAUSE WE OWN THE PROPERTY THE COUNTY NEEDS A CONSENT TO THIS NOMINATION SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE QUESTION.

I HOPE SO. IT WAS A NICE DAY FOR A DRAW. HOW LONG IS IT? SO IT WAS ONE OF THE 49 CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS TO THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT WHICH WAS LISTED IN 1996. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS JUST KNOW THAT HUMAN MOTION IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NOMINATION MOTION HOW CAN I I WAS A PART OF THE OF THIS PROJECT WITH THE RULING CRITICAL AND THEY BROUGHT IT IN AND THAT WAS A AND MORE MEETS WITH THE COMPLETION THE RESTORATION OF THIS HOUSE YES WHEN I FIRST SAW IT IT WAS LIKE ARE YOU SURE BUT IT'S AMAZING WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.

AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS COUNTY. I LOVE TO HAVE THIS LISTED.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. I HAVE A SECOND WITHOUT

[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPOINTMENT OF LAURA LEE ROSE TO THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT COMMITTEE TO REPLACE BOB SEMMLER.]

NOW WE CAN COUNT ON NUMBER 12 RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF CHARLIE ROSE PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT COMMITTEE TO REPLACE BOB SIMILAR LET'S GO TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND WE'LL NEED TO GET THE FINANCE COMMITTEE THIS IS NO OFFICIAL COMMITTEE OUR BOARD WE CAN DO IT YOU MAKE MOTIONS I SHALL MAKE THEM A 11 TO WHOM I JUST LIKE.

ALL RIGHT, SECOND WHAT COUNCILMAN GO WITHOUT OBJECTION .

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME PERSUADED TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA CODE 34 TO 70, WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TO PROPOSE INTRODUCTORY ARRANGEMENTS AND PROPOSE A REAL PROPERTY COOLER TRACT.

OKAY. SO FREELY. YES.

I THINK THESE ARE REALLY WHEN. WE ARE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE DO HAVE MATTERS ARISING

[14. MATTERS ARISING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION]