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ONE MORE PERSON IN ROLE TO GIVE US A QUORUM. SO YOU WILL BYPASS ALL OF THE LEGAL STUFF AND COME BACK TO IT WHEN WE HAVE A CORE IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BOARD SO RIGHT NOW IT IS THINGS WOULD BE INTO A 45,000 COMMITTEE MEETING AND WE WILL DO ALL THE BUSINESS IN THE PROGRAMING BUDGET. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING AND.
WELCOME TO FEBRUARY. FEEL LIKE ME JUST SITTING IN THE SAME BUT JANUARY CAME AT A VARIANCE HERE SO GOOD MORNING TO YOU ALL. I'LL SKIP TO OUR MEMO THE DOCKET BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 23 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THE $190,000 AS OF JANUARY 26TH 2023 A TOTAL OF 35 HOMES HAVE BEEN SERVICED SO HOME REPAIRS SUCH AS ROOFING WHERE DAMAGED FLOORS AND 75 HOURS TOTALING $173,000 $173,000 996 I KNOW I'M SAYING THAT WRONG BUT THE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM 161,533 HAS BEEN SPENT ON JANUARY 10TH, 2023 $20,000 WAS PLACED INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACCOUNT FOR CONTINGENCY ONE INVOICE IS WAITING TO BE PROCESSED $355 ONCE MADE AVAILABLE BUDGET FOR HOME REPAIR BE $8,112 FOR A PROPERTY CLEANUP IS THAT WE PUMP OUT THE LINE ITEM HAS BEEN EXCEEDED BY $1,263 AND I DO WANT TO PAUSE THERE THE ONLY REASON WHY WE ALLOWED THE PROPERTY CLEANUP IN 75 OUT TO EXCEED ITS ORIGINAL BUDGET IS BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED A SAFETY DIRECT SANITARY.
SO THAT IS CONSISTING OF OUR SEPARATE PUMP OUT FOR THOSE THAT HAVE FULL SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND NEED TO KEEP GOING JUST TO KEEP IT SANITARY. SO THAT IS ONE OF OUR MOST POPULAR CALLS THIS SHORTFALL WILL BE COVERED BY FINANCE FROM THE ABATEMENT AND DEMOLITION ITEMS ONCE APPROVES ADDITIONAL FUNDING AT THE FEBRUARY AND MARCH TOWN COUNCIL MEETING FUNDS WHERE BOTH OF THOSE LINE ITEMS WILL BE RESTORED BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL AMOUNT.
ANY QUESTIONS THERE? I KNOW I SAID A MOUTHFUL ON THAT LINE.
WE HEARD THE NEXT BUDGET WHEN WE APPROVE OUR BUDGET ELIMINATE THAT JUST BECAUSE WE WENT OVER IT LIKE THE BUDGET THAT WE JUST APPROVED FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT WE DID WE TOOK IT UP BACK READING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. WE PUT IT UP THAT LINE ITEM THAT THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE.
YES, MA'AM. SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE RED. BUT LIKE I SAID, ONE OF THOSE BUDGET AMENDMENTS UNDER EVERYTHING WE'LL GO BACK THAT INCLUDES BACKLOG.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. TODAY SEVEN APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR REPAIRS AND ARE WAITING ESTIMATES. FIVE APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN TURNED IN AND HAVE NOT YET BEEN INCOME VERIFIED. SO WE ARE AT A STANDSTILL WITH 12 RESIDENTS WAITING ON HOME REPAIRS SO THIS PROGRAM IS PAUSED BUT I HAVE NOT PAUSED SO THE THE APPLICATIONS ARE SITTING ON MY DESK JUST WAITING TO GET OUR CONTRACTORS THERE TO GET THOSE STUDENTS IN SO WE CAN KEEP GOING. ONCE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVES WHAT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED, THE FIVE APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED IN BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD THEM I JUST KIND OF DON'T WANT EVERYTHING TO KIND OF JUST RUSHING AT ONE TIME SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IN SLOW BUT PRECISELY ONCE THOSE ONES ARE RELEASED THE LINE DOWN HARD SELL SHEETS YOU CAN SEE ALL THOSE DOLLARS AND WILL GIVE YOU TIME.
LOOK AT THAT TO SEE. SO IN A NUTSHELL RIGHT NOW WE STAND WITH $34,499 REMAINING OUT OF OUR $109,000 BUDGET. SO WE'RE NOT ZERO BUT JUST YOU DON'T WANT TO GET TOO CLOSE AND START THESE APPLICATIONS AND THEN WE JUST FLAT OUT DON'T HAVE ANY SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW. QUESTIONS COMMENTS ARE CONCERNED SO THE AVAILABLE BUDGET NOT HAS NOT BEEN COMMITTED OR SETTLEMENT I'M SORRY THE AVAILABLE BUDGET 3030 449 THAT'S NOT COMMITTED YET MANY OF THE 12 THAT ARE THE APPLICANTS THAT MAY EIGHT OF THAT 35,000 IN MAY BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING THAT 34 BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TO ZERO OUT AT ALL SO JUST IN CASE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING VERY CONFUSING WHY'S THAT 34 IS THERE BUT RIGHT NOW I'M NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE 12 IN THE QUEUE WITH 34 BUT THANK YOU ALL THE POLITENESS HAS JOINED US AND SHE'S PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE THAT EVERYBODY SO WHAT DO WE HAVE TO SAY WHEN SHE'S A LITTLE TARDY AND BUT WE APPRECIATE HER
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COMMITMENT TO HELPING WHENEVER SHE CAN SO BLESSED WITH HAVING A ROLL CALL.ALL RIGHT. THAT WILL ROLL CALL CHAIRMAN FRED HAMILTON YOU THE POLITE YOU MEG JANE HERE DAN WOULD GREAT STAY BOTH HERE AND WHEN CHAMBERS COMMITTED TO GENDER THAT WE'D LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT IT AS IT IS AS PRESENTED AND THEN NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT IT AS PRESENTED MOTION TO THE DUP AT PRESENT IT SAID AND ALL OF THE SAME WOULD BE MINUTES FROM JANUARY 2023. YOU NEED A MOTION TO PROVE THE MOTION TO SECOND ALL OF YOU I SEVEN A WE HAVE A QUITE A BIT OF POLYGONS AND FAMILIAR FACES .
WE PROCEED TO BEING HERE AND NOW IS THE TIME TO COME UP AND GIVE US SOME OF YOUR TIME AND YOUR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS AND WE'LL IDEAS WHEN YOU STEP UP TO THROUGH MY AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD FOR ME SO WE MENTION EVERYONE SHANNON GREEN I AM A TOWN OF BLUFFTON EMPLOYEE I CAME YOUR MEETING LAST MONTH AS WELL TO SPEAK MY CONCERNS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THE AMOUNT IN NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED THERE'S VERY FEW AVAILABLE APARTMENTS SOMEONE SUCH AS MYSELF WHO MAKES A DECENT WAGE AT PRESENT THAT THE BLUESTONE IS A COMMUNITY THAT I MENTIONED LAST MONTH IN THE TIME THE SPACE FROM WHEN I DISCOVERED THEM SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT THEM AND THEN PUT IN MY APPLICATION THEIR LOWEST PRICE UNIT WENT UP $100 A MONTH AND SO NOW AT MY PRESENT RATE OF PAY I NO LONGER QUALIFY.
SO UM, THAT'S BEEN A FRUSTRATION AND THEY WERE ONE OF ONE OF OUR IF NOT THE LOWEST I COULD FIND IN THE BLUFFTON BOUNDARIES WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF BLUFFTON.
SO I JUST WONDERED MAYBE I COULD OFFER UP A SUGGESTION PERHAPS YOU COULD AS A COMMITTEE COME UP WITH AT LEAST A LIST OF APARTMENT COMMUNITIES OR PROPERTY THAT WE SUBSCRIBE TO OFFERING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW THE TERMINOLOGY DON'T KNOW WHAT COMMUNICATIONS LEVELS YOU HAVE WITH THOSE PARTICULAR ENTITIES. SO BUT I JUST FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. IT'S IT IT EXISTS AND IN FACT APPARENTLY SOMEONE WATCHED THE MEETING FROM LAST MONTH AND SHE NOTED SHE E-MAILED ME THIS MORNING AND SAID SHE WATCHED ME TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING EVEN BEING A EMPLOYEE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND SHE TOO IS IN THE SAME SITUATION HER LEASES UP IN A FEW MONTHS AND SHE'S ALREADY PAID $20 A MONTH FOR A ONE BEDROOM AND SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE GOING TO GO. SO IT'S INTERESTING INTEREST ALONE BUT APPARENTLY SHE IS IN A SITUATION THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING SO I'M PROUD TO BE AN EMPLOYEE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND I'D LOVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
AND SO SOME WAY SOMEHOW I'D LIKE TO HAVE BE POSSIBLE I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
LOTS OF QUESTIONS FOR ME. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND THEN I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND HAVE YOU I DON'T KNOW REALTORS HADN'T TRIED OR LOOKED AT VILLAS ANYTHING THAT PEOPLE ARE OFFERING PRIVATE OWNERS BESIDES BLUESTONE AND SOME OF THE JUST THE NORMAL APARTMENTS HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'VE I'VE TRIED CRAIGSLIST
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AND EVEN CONTACTED VACATION RENTALS AND ASK IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO CONSIDER MORE PERMANENT RESIDENT I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO FIND THOSE I THINK THERE'S THERE'S NOT A PERFECT OUTCOME FOR BLUFFTON HAS A VERY MINIMAL LISTING THERE WAS ONE PRIVATE LISTING AND THEN THE OTHER THREE WERE IT IS THE BLUESTONE AND OTHERS YEAH SO THAT'S FINDING THOSE FINDING HOW TO CONTACT SOMEONE THAT HAS A PROPERTY SUCH AS THAT IS A IT'S NOT OBVIOUS WELL I HAD TO DO THAT FOR CLIENTS MOVING IN YOU KNOW JUST COULDN'T FIND A HOUSE IN THEIR PRICE RANGE AND . I LOOKED ON OUR NEXT DOOR. HAVE YOU HEARD OF THAT ONE? I HEARD YOU SAW NEXTDOOR AND SOME OTHERS BUT IT IS LIKE A NEEDLE IN A HAYSTACK EVEN FIND IN THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE PLACES FOR ■RENTBUT THEYSEEM TO BE A LOT MORE REASONABLE.OH WELL I APPRECIATE THAT YOU THINK YOU'RE JUST BEING SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE IS IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY THIS ROOM IN THIS WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND THAT'S WHY WE THAT'S WHY WE PUT OUR HEART AND EFFORT IN TRYING TO BE A GAME CHANGER THERE THERE ARE THINGS THIS THE PIPELINE IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR BUT THERE WAS THERE ARE STUFF THAT WE ARE DOING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE JUST THE START TO MAKE OTHERS IN OUR REGION ALSO FOLLOW AND THERE WE HAVE SO LOCAL THAT'S DOING SIGNIFICANT WORK NOW WITH THE TRUST FUND SO EVEN IF IT'S NOT LEFT IN THERE MAY BE AREAS SURROUNDING US AND IN OUR THAT'S GOING TO ADDRESS THE SAME ISSUE I THINK YOU'VE HEARD YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HEAR MORE ABOUT TODAY I COME HERE TO TALK ABOUT A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SO I DON'T HAVE A MAGIC WAND TODAY WE DON'T HAVE THE MAGIC WAND TODAY BUT WE UNDERSTAND AND OUR CONCERNS. IT'S HEARTFELT WITH YOU.
OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A MAGIC WAND. I JUST I WANT TO VOICE MY CONCERNS AND SHARE SO THAT MAYBE SOMETHING MEANINGFUL WILL COME OUT OF IT SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
I PIGGYBACK PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MR. HAMILTON SAID SAME HERE. IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE OUR PARTNERS ARE HERE. WE ARE ONE COMMITTEE THAT HOPEFULLY TRY TO MAKE A CHANGE BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THE PARTNERS, THE REALTORS THE BUILDERS, THE HOMEOWNERS EVERYBODY GOT INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WITH THE MARKET THE WAY IT IS, THE BANKERS EVEN WITH THE MARKET THE WAY IT IS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING DOLLARS IT'S NOT UP TO YOU.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO OUR DOLLARS ARE A LOT I MEAN IT'S VALUABLE NOW THAN IT WAS BEFORE WE HAVE IT WHEN HOUSING, RENT AND OWNERSHIP WAS A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER.
SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF I WORK HERE AND IF I LIVE HERE 20 SOME YEARS I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE I WOULD BE MYSELF RIGHT? SO I HAVE MY FOOTING HERE BUT SUCH A LONG TIME IS A BLESSING TO ME. SO WHAT PEOPLE COMING IN IS IS DIFFICULT BUT LOOKING OUTSIDE THERE IS GROWING SO TO GET IN ON A PLACES TO BEFORE IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE AT NOW IT IMPORTANT FOR US UNDERSTAND YES SO ALL RIGHT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR SHARING THIS INCOME. IT WILL MAKE YOU I WILL BE REPRESENTING YOU THERE. YES. THEY'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS THE MAN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
VERY GOOD. OKAY THEN IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA, STEPHEN, THANK YOU FOR BEING THE WE THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE AS KNOW WE ARE JUST ONE OF TWO COUNTERPARTIES TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
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WE ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL PIECES OF LAND THAT THE TOWN HAS ACQUIRED AND LOOKING TO DO SO WE WENT OUT THREE PLUS YEARS AGO TO FIND A PARTNER WITH US TO DO A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND. WE WERE THROUGH THAT AND FINALLY GOT AN AGREEMENT PLACE COUNCIL APPROVED I THINK EVERYTHING WAS FINALIZED LAST SO OUR FIRST PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS 1095 MAE RIVER ROAD IN THE TOWN ON THE LITTLE SHORT OF TWO ACRES ABOUT POINT EIGHT ACRES AND WE JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND IN TRYING TO PUT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO ADDRESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THERE IS A BALANCE OF TRYING TO MAINTAIN IT'S GOING TO BE WHAT PORTION IT GOING TO BE PRIVATE AND ONE PORTION IS GOING TO BE PUBLIC AND THE FUNDING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHAT THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN TRYING ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE AGREEMENT AND TRYING TO FINALIZE WHAT THINGS ARE LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD.ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WAS LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OF PUBLIC SPACES THE POND AND THE ROADS AND STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE TYPICALLY HAD SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN BLUFFTON THEY HAVE A WAY TO OR PUT PLACE TO MAINTAIN THOSE KIND OF FACILITIES ROAD ETC. WHEN WE START TALKING MAKING THINGS AFFORDABLE WHAT WE RUN INTO IS WHEN YOU START LOOKING HAVING A POWER RATIO FOR 14 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IS WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? IS THAT TO CREATE A FEE? IS IT GOING TO CREATE A BURDEN AND THEN TAKE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE AFFORDABLE AND MAKES IT UNAFFORDABLE? SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ADDING A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DOLLARS PER MONTH TO A AWAY FEE SO THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN THEIR ROADS, MAINTAIN STORMWATER POND AND ETC. MOVING FORWARD THAT THEN TAKES UNIT THAT WAS 80% AFFORDABLE AND THEN MAKES IT NON FOR BECAUSE THAT TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHENEVER SOMEBODY GETS IN THERE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING AN END TO A BURDEN THAT IS GOING TO PUT THEM AT A SITUATION WHERE IT WAS AFFORDABLE AND THEN BECOMES UNAFFORDABLE.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS LONG.
SO WHERE WE GET INTO THAT IS HAVING THAT CONVERSATION NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE INITIAL AND YOU HAVE A COUPLE SHEETS IN FRONT OF YOU HERE SHOWING THE INITIAL DESIGN OF WHAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER AND JUST SO KNOW WE DO HAVE OUR PARTNERS HERE, WE HAVE GROUNDSKEEPERS THAT ARE HERE IS DOING THE LAND DESIGN WE HAVE HERE SCOTT THE MAN WHO WAS WITH US SCOTT AND ASSOCIATES FOR THE PARK IS AND THEN MATT WHO IS REPRESENTING THE BUILDER WITH STATE OF MIND SO WE HAVE THESE ARE ALL THE PARTNERS SO THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE BEYOND ME OR OR TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ALSO UNDERSTAND WE'RE AT AND WHAT THE STEPS LOOKING FORWARD ARE AND SO THE INITIAL SITE PLAN YOU CAN SEE WITH THIS ONE DONE BY JOHN KEEFER HOW TO LAYOUT WITH 14 TOWNHOME UNITS THE GOAL FOR ALL OF THESE IS FOR THEM TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED AND FOR THEM TO BE AT LEAST FOR 60% AT LEAST FOR 80% ASTHMA AND LEAST FOUR AT 100% ASTHMA. SO THE OTHER UNITS MAY BE 100% AND YET YOU'VE SAID THAT WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE FOR EACH OF THOSE LETTERS. SO THAT'S PART OF THE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. WE'VE REACHED A POINT WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO GET GUIDANCE FROM Y'ALL BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THIS TO ALL OF COUNCIL AND BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW DISCUSS AND US SOME GUIDANCE SO THAT WHEN COUNCILMAN HAMILTON AND COUNCILMAN WOOD WHEN WE'RE SITTING IN FRONT OF COUNCIL ABOUT HAVING SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, THEY CAN SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S EITHER SUPPORTED OR WE HAD CONCERNS OR OR WHATEVER DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE THAT WE HAVE THE INPUT FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE MOVING FORWARD SO YOU CAN SEE THE CONTENT OF THE LAYOUT HAVE HERE AND IT'S BEEN PUT INTO PLACE BRINGS US BACK TO THE CONVERSATION THAT I STARTED WITH WHICH IS WE HAVE TO HAVE PARKING, WE HAVE TO HAVE STORMWATER, WE TO HAVE ENTRY ROADS AND WE REACH A POINT WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE THAT BURDEN AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LONG TERM WHAT THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO THE SECOND SHE KIND OF SHOWS
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A LITTLE BIT OF A JUST SIMPLIFIED VERSION TO SHOW WHAT UNITS WOULD ACTUALLY BE SOLD OFF VERSUS WHAT IS REMAINING AS KIND OF OPEN LAND THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED LONG TERM.THIS INCLUDES A POTENTIAL POCKET PARK. IT INCLUDES THE PARKING, THE ROADWAYS AND STORMWATER. SO TYPICALLY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON DOES NOT TAKE OWNERSHIP OF ANY ROADS WHENEVER DEVELOPMENT IS DONE WE DO HAVE SOME ROADS THAT WE DO OWN.
WE'VE TAKEN SOME IN OLD TOWN WE HAVE WHAT'S PART OF A HAMPTON PARKWAY.
WE'VE DONE SOME OTHER OTHER LIKE THAT. BUT WITH THIS BEING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND BEING A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, THE QUESTION COMES UP IS DO WE RECOMMEND DO WE TAKE THE COUNCIL AS A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE TOWN TAKE OVER THE ROAD, THE SIDEWALKS THE STORMWATER AND MAINTAIN IT IN PERPETUITY TO ENSURE THAT THESE UNITS STAY AFFORDABLE PART THE CONVERSATION WE HAD AS WELL GOES WITH THE COVENANTS THAT ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD THE INITIAL COVENANTS SHOWED LIKE A 30 YEAR AFFORDABILITY IS HAVING THIS CONVERSATION THAT THE TOWN IS GOING TO DO THE MAINTENANCE LONG TERM DO WE EXTEND THOSE COMMENTS AND MAKE THEM 40 YEARS SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THE TOWN IS GOING TO INVEST FUNDS IN TO MAINTAIN ROADS AND STORMWATER THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THESE UNITS AFFORDABLE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME? SO THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION THAT CAN BE HAD THERE. BUT REALLY THE BASIC QUESTION THAT COMES DOWN TO RIGHT NOW IS IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN AS PART OF OUR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH? IT IS RECOMMENDING THAT MAINTAIN OPEN SPACE AND TAKE THAT AS TOWN PROPERTY LONG TERM TO MAINTAIN ROADS, PARKING THE STORMWATER AND SO FORTH FORWARD TO REDUCE THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE AN HRA WHICH WILL KEEP THESE UNITS MORE AFFORDABLE IN THE LONG TERM. AND ALSO JUST TALKING ABOUT RETAINING UNITS AND EVENTUALLY HAVING TO DO THAT WHAT THAT BURDEN MAY BE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THIS PROJECT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A PRIMER OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHY WE'RE HERE WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN GET SOME INPUT FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND GET SOME GOT IT MOVING FORWARD I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE BUT I'M SAYING WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY REPRESENTING THE BUILDERS, THE LEGISLATORS SO WE WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
THE POINT OF THIS TO ACTUALLY GETTING THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND THE VERTICAL DESIGN DONE SO THAT WE CAN THEN MOVE WHAT WE CALL PHASE ONE WHICH IS ALL THE DESIGN AND MOVEMENT TO PHASE TWO WHICH IS CONTRACTING WITH MATT AND HIS TEAM DO ALL THE HORIZONTAL WORK TO BUILD THE ROADS AND PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN SO THAT WE CAN THEN GO VERTICAL.
SO THIS IS REALLY OUR BIGGEST QUESTION FOR MOVING FORWARD FROM PHASE ONE INTO PHASE TWO.
THANK YOU. SO THE QUESTION IS YOU SAID OUR BIGGEST QUESTION IS IS WHAT ARE OUR BIGGEST QUESTION IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE TOWN TAKE AND MAINTAIN PUBLIC SPACES AND FACILITIES TO HELP THAT THIS IS AFFORDABLE LONG TERM AND WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE WANT TO TAKE AND THEN INSTEAD OF STANDING THE AFFORDABILITY COVENANTS FOR SAY AN ADDITIONAL TEN YEARS OR WHATEVER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THE INVESTMENT THAT THE TOWN IS MAKING.
I HAVE A JUST A BASIC QUESTION IF WHERE IS THIS WHAT IS WHAT IS IT THAT SO MANY RENTAL MANAGERS AN ISLAND YOU KNOW THAT INSURANCE LIKE BOTH CONEY ISLAND THEY WERE ON THE LEFT IN BETWEEN CAHILL'S THE PARTNERS ON MAIN RIVER ROAD THAT WAS AFTER THE NATURE STORE IT'S LIKE OKAY SO IS IT ON THE RIVERSIDE OR IS IT ON THE INLAND SIDE? ALL RIGHT, PEOPLE ENDED UP SO YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHERE IT IS OR PEOPLE IN IT.
SO KNOW. OKAY. SO ONE OF MY QUESTION WOULD BE BECAUSE YOU KEPT ON REFERENCING BACK TO THE AFFORDABLE CAN YOU REFERENCE PEO A SO IS THIS GAP A IS GOING TO MAKE IT UNAFFORDABLE THEN WE DON'T HAVE A DISCUSSION AT LEAST FOR ME BECAUSE WE'RE WE ARE WORKING TOWARD AFFORDABILITY SO THAT'S KIND OF A NO BRAINER FOR ME AND
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I KNOW YOU GOT TO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE WHO CAN'T PAY THE BILL THEN I THINK NOW LOST THE OH THE OTHER THING THERE WAS DO WE TAKE IT 30 YEARS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COVENANT OR MOVE IT A LITTLE EXTEND IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ENSURE THE AFFORDABILITY? MY QUESTION ALWAYS IS IF WE SAY YEAR MORE TAKE IT 40 YEARS AND WE'RE NOW DEAD AND GONE YET SOMEBODY COME BACK AND SAY I'M GOING TO TAKE IT BACK DOWN TO 30 AND IT ACTUALLY GET FILED WITH THE LEAD FOR THE PROPERTY FOLLOWS THE FOR THE LIFE OF THE COVENANT OKAY SO ONCE IT MOVED TO 30 LOOK BACK AND HONEST I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT SO I DON'T WANT MAKE BECAUSE ONCE WE DO 30 ONCE IT ONCE THAT TIME IS IN SESSION THAT REQUIREMENT DISAPPEARS SO THEN THEY CAN SELL WHOEVER OR WHATEVER AND MAKE IT BECOME IT'S MARKET RATE AT THAT POINT.OKAY BUT IF WE EXTEND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN'T BACKTRACK THEY CAN'T GO BACK ONCE THE COVENANT IS THAT PART OF THE CLOSING ONCE THAT COVENANT FILED AND THEN GOES WITH THAT DEED ESTATE WITH THAT UNTIL THE COVENANT EXPIRES? OKAY.
AND THEN FOR ME I THINK IS FOR ME I'M THINKING CHILDREN AND MY CHILDREN'S CHILDREN SO I WOULD WANT TO PERSONALLY SET OUT TO BE AFFORDABILITY IN ANY AFFORDABLE I TEND TO GO FOR AFFORDABILITY AND AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE PEOPLE LIKE THIS BEAUTIFUL YOUNG LADY IN THE BACK THIS COMING HERE ARE MY CHILDREN THAT'S COMING HERE ON THIS HERE IT CAME LIVE HERE. THAT'S WHAT I SEE NOW IS MY CHILDREN CAN'T LIVE BECAUSE OF PROFITABILITY AND I'M WORKING TOWARDS AFFORDABILITY. SO THAT'S MY CHOOSING.
WHO AM I IN RIGHT NOW QUALIFYING I GUESS THAT WOULD BE DUE TO ABILITY THAT WHENEVER WE TO THAT POINT THEN THAT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT IS THEY NEED TO ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS WE USE ALL THE QUALIFICATION THAT WE USE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE BUT THEY WOULD DO ALL THE QUALIFYING WORK IT AFTER THE TRANSFER TO SELL THE PROPERTY I JUST WANTED TO OFFER THIS LIVED IN RESTON VIRGINIA RIGHT BY THE DELTA AND WHEN I MOVED THERE 1994 IT WAS A NICE LITTLE TOWN YOU KNOW LIVE WORK AND PLAY AND ALL THAT AND SO I SOLD MY I MOVED THERE TWICE BUT I SOLD MY HOUSE IN 2019. WELL WHEN I MOVED THERE THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE RED COMMUNITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW, WE SAW THE CHILDREN GROW UP.
THEY THEY GREW UP IN THAT COMMUNITY AND I ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT'S THE INCOME LEVEL? SO I REALLY NEVER KNEW THAT. BUT YOU SAW THE CHILDREN GROW UP, THE PEOPLE GET OLD, ETC.
AND THEN I THOUGHT THAT IS SO GREAT BECAUSE BEEN AROUND THE HOUSES THAT WERE 200,000 WENT TO A MILLION AND A HALF YOU KNOW AND THEN WE KEPT BUILDING AND PRETTY SOON THEY CALLED IT THE INTERNET CAPITAL OF THE WORLD SO THAT JUST MEANT WE GOT MORE MONEY AND MORE PEOPLE WITH MONEY MOVING IN. SO I STILL AM ON THE DISTRIBUTOR YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE TOWN AND HERE IT IS 30 YEARS LATER WELL 30 THAT I KNEW ABOUT THEY'RE DECIDING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S SITTING THERE AND ALL AROUND IT $1,000,000 TOWNHOMES. SO THE PEOPLE ARE REALLY UPSET AND AND OF COURSE I'M UPSET BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WE SAW THE CHILDREN AND THE GRANDCHILDREN COMING AND NOW I GUESS THE COVENANT RAN OUT. SO HERE WE ARE AND THAT WAS PROBABLY THE YEAR FIVE YEARS BEFORE I GOT THERE. SO IT'S 30, 35 YEARS LATER AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THESE PEOPLE ARE UP ENDED AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WE WANT TO WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE CHILDREN, THE GRANDCHILDREN AND GREAT GRANDCHILDREN PEOPLE WHO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE LIVING IN IN THE COMMUNITY THEIR CHILDREN GREW A LOT OF THEIR CHILDREN WENT TO COLLEGE AND YOU KNOW SO THEY HAD THE GOOD LIFE BUT THEN THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE THERE WHO WERE THERE AT THE VERY BEGINNING SO THAT CONCERNS 30 YEARS SOUNDS LIKE A LONG TIME BUT IT'S QUICK IT IS QUOTE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT THAT I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE
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THAT HAPPEN 30 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN I HEARD MUSIC LIKE THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE DEAD GONE BUT WE HAVE THINK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR PEOPLE WHO MAY NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING . AND AND WE'RE SEEING THAT WITH SOME OF THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE UP NOW THEY WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE THEIR AFFORDABILITY WHETHER THEY HAD THEIR FEDERAL OR THEIR BANK LOANS. AND NOW THAT THEY COME OUT, THEY START YOU SAID BALANCE PROPERTY PROFITABILITY VERSUS AFFORDABILITY AND SO NO THAT'S GREAT RIGHT. BUT ON THE OTHER THING AND IS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE GO TO THE COUNCIL AND START HAVING ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT LOOKING AT THE OPEN SPACE AND THE MAINTENANCE IN THAT LONG TERM IS JUST AN ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING IN THE TOWN BEING A PARTNER AND DOING THAT TO ANY PLACE ELSE THAT WE NORMALLY DO INSIDE THE TOWN JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT BALANCING THAT CALLS AGAIN WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE WHETHER IT IS A PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT VERSUS A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC MAINTENANCE VERSUS YOU KNOW BUT WE DO HAVE HOMES THAT ARE IN OLD TOWN BUT WE MAINTAIN THE ROADS AND THE PUBLIC PARKING AND ALL OF THAT AROUND ON SO. THERE ARE SOME PLACES THAT WE DO IT AND IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR COUNCIL IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CONTINUE TO DO IN OTHER PLACES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS WE CAN WE CAN MAKE THESE AFFORDABILITY TO MEET THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS YOU WERE TO TAKE IT OVER WOULD WOULD COUNCIL HAVE TO APPROVE INCREASING THEY WILL GET IT WELL THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO TAKE THE ROADS AND TAKE OWNERSHIP IN THE MAINTENANCE AND WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT BUDGETED FOR TO MAINTAIN THAT LONG TERM AND THAT'S WHERE I SUGGEST YOU HAVE AND ARE READY FOR THAT I'M SORRY WE SHOULD THAT YOU HAVE THAT READY FOR THEM I MEAN IF THAT'S THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD DID YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THE TOWN TO WE WOULD AND WE'VE ACTUALLY I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK WE KIND OF HAD HAD THAT CONVERSATION TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MAINTENANCE WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE DID A PLACE JUST TO FIGURE OUT SO WE COMPARE. BUT HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO A COMPANY THAT SPECIALIZES IN MANAGEMENT? THAT'S ALL THEY DO AND THE INDIVIDUAL THAT I WAS TALKING WITH HAS MORE THREE AND FOUR LETTER ACRONYMS. IT'S OFF ABOUT TWO FOLLOWING HER NAME. SHE SHE SHE IS AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD SO SHE WAS LOOKING AT IT OVER A 30 YEAR LIFE SPAN AND WHAT BE NEEDED IN TERMS OF RESERVE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IN HER EXPERIENCE MANAGING HIGHWAYS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY SHE'S SEEN INSTANCES WHERE ANITA TRIES TO MAINTAIN AN ASPECT COMMUNITY THAT REQUIRES A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION LAW IS THEY CAN ACTUALLY PLACE A LEAD ON THE PROPERTY AND FORCE FORECLOSURE IF YOU CAN'T PAY YOUR SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.SO THERE'S SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TEETH IN THIS CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING.
SO WHAT SHE WAS LOOKING AT IS SHE WAS LOOKING AT A 30 YEAR LIFESPAN OF ROAD MAINTENANCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THE NUMBER OF YOU THREW OUT $200 A MONTH IS NOT THAT FAR OFF AND IF WE ARE HAVING THE HOMEOWNERS PAY IT ON A MONTH MONTH BASIS TO BUILD THIS RESERVE THE FUTURE EXPENSE OR IF THERE IS A FUND THAT IS PLACED IN THE YOU KNOW AS A AS A CAPITAL RESERVE IN THE IN THE BEGINNING TO FUND THAT FUTURE SHE WAS ESTIMATING BASED UPON HER TODAY THAT THE ROADS WOULD COST $85,000 TO REPAVE AND 20 SOME ODD YEARS THEN THAT WOULD INCLUDE STRIPING AND A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS AS FAR AS COMMUNITY MAINTENANCE A LOT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS THAT I WAS HAVING WITH HER IT'S KIND OF A CHICKEN AND EGG SCENARIO BECAUSE I'M ASKING HER TO GIVE ME PRICING ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS AND BUT THE SOME OF THE PRICING THAT SHE'S TALKING WILL HELP US DECIDE WHAT IS THE MOST AFFORDABLE TERM MAYBE NOT THE LEAST EXPENSIVE THING DAY ONE, BUT IT COULD BE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OVER YOUR 30. I THINK SHE WAS PROPOSING A MAINTENANCE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO MAINTAIN EVERYTHING IN AND AROUND THE FACILITIES OF AROUND $7,000 A YEAR FOR LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE ETC. ROAD YOU KNOW BLOWING UP ROADS THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO WHEN WE HAD IT ALL TOGETHER IT DOES ACTUALLY COME UP TO A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF AN INDIVIDUAL OWNER'S BUDGET IF THAT OWNER IS ONE OF THE 14 REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THIS ENTIRE AND WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE CASTLE TO WORK ON THE REALITY I THINK BEING AND SPEAK
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TO THIS AS WELL IT'S NOT THE IDEAL SHAPED PIECE OF LAND FOR MOST EFFICIENT USE WE'VE GOT A ROAD THAT COMES THAT WE CAN ONLY PUT PROPERTY ON ONE SIDE. IDEALLY WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A ROAD YOU HAVE HOUSES ON BOTH SIDES THAT REDUCES THE COST OF YOUR ROAD BY AT UM SO BY A ROAD LAYOUT WE LOOKED AT IT AND HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY OUR INFRASTRUCTURE COST FROM MINIMAL WHILE STILL MAXIMIZING THE NUMBER OF DWELLINGS THAT WE HAVE ON IT THE PROPERTY ALLOWS FOR 12 UNITS WITH TWO BONUS DENSITY UNITS SO OUR FROM THE BEGINNING WAS TO PUT 14 ON BECAUSE THAT REDUCES THE COST PER UNIT AS FAR AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUT STILL ONLY A 14 WITH THE LINEAR FOOTAGE OF ROAD THE LINEAR FOOTAGE OF SIDEWALK BECOME A SIGNIFICANT BURDEN FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT SO THAT'S THE IN CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD REGARDING AND AND SHE WAS LOCKSTEP WITH WHAT WHAT OUR THOUGHTS WERE AS FAR AS WHAT THE LONG TERM COST WOULD BE WHAT YOU JUST SAID THE BURDEN OF THE BURDEN OF THE HOMEOWNER OR CAN WE MAKE IT A PARTNERSHIP WHERE THE HOMEOWNER TOOK A PORTION OF THAT MONTHLY BUDGET FOR THAT? SO I ALWAYS THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO GET AN A YES NO YELLING TO THAT WHY DIDN'T THE GAME IN THE TOWN BE A PART OF TAXPAYERS MONEY THE THE CONCERN AND AND WE'VE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION IS DO WE DO THE ROADS AND THEN WE LET THE DO THE PUBLIC MAINTAINING THE LANDSCAPING THE BOND OR ALL OF THAT WHAT WE WOULD WHAT COMES FROM THAT AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE CONVERSATION OF DO KIND OF MOVE THIS DIRECTION OR DO WE GO THIS DIRECTION IS BECAUSE WE TRY TO BALANCE IN THE MIDDLE IF WE END UP IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE TWO HOMEOWNERS WHO LOSE THEIR JOB AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEIR PROPERTY AND THE MAINTENANCE OR THE MAINTENANCE DOESN'T GET DONE BECAUSE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COMING IN TO PAY THE CONTRACT WHEN IT GOES UP AND AND WHO'S GOING TO END UP ENFORCING THAT REQUIREMENT? THE TOWN WOULD BE THE ONE THAT HAS TO STEP IN AND ENFORCE THEM TO DO THAT. AND IF IT'S LIKE HE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S AN INCREASE OR BECOMES A LEAN. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE KIND OF AGAIN IT'S THAT BALANCING OF WHERE THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ARE BALANCING EACH OTHER OUT AND WITH IT TRYING SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE IT GETS IT'S GREAT IT'S VERY QUICK AND GETS COMPLICATED. SO THAT'S WHERE THE THE OPTION THAT THINK LONG TERM THAT IT KIND OF PUTS THE TOWN ON THE MAINTENANCE BUT IT MAKES THE UNITS I THINK LONG TERM THE MOST AND THE BEST FOR THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE THERE IS LOOKING AT THE TOWN BEING AND THE ONES WHO OWN AND MAINTAIN THE BONDS OF ROADS AND SO FORTH BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND WE TALKED EVERYTHING THROUGH AND THEN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE UNDERSTOOD AND AGREED HAD THESE THESE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE FORGOTTEN WHEN YOU START TALKING WITH BANKERS AND REALTORS AND OTHER PEOPLE WE KNEW THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP US BRIDGE SOME OF THIS THAT WE WEREN'T THINKING OF THAT BECAUSE I RESPECT HER OPINION.I'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION A LONG TIME. I WANT TO HEAR THANK YOU.
AND WE WE GOT SOME PLACE WHERE I KNEW TOWN HALLS REQUIRE ROOFTOP IS ALSO BIG COMPONENT IN THAT SO IN TO MAXIMIZE THIS PROPERTY TO GET TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE FOR IT TO BE THE DEVELOPER AS WELL IS THE OF THE DENSITY AND THAT ALSO BRING DOWN THE AFFORDABILITY OF BOTH PARTS SO YEAH THE ONLY OTHER BUSINESSES TO DO LESS ON IN THERE WOULDN'T THAT WOULDN'T HELP THE ON THAT AND IT HURTS JUST AS MUCH BECAUSE IT MAKES THE COSTS GO UP AND IT DOESN'T DOESN'T HELP AS MOST PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO WITH WITH THIS PORTION LAND SO IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION THERE'S A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE THE AND IT'S A LARGE RANGE IS ON IT BUT IS
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IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND JUST AS MUCH OF WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO SEE IT IN THE COMING HERE TODAY SO YOU GUYS CAN DISSECT IT AND ALL THE QUESTION TO ME THE ONLY TERM WE MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING THAT YOU ACTUALLY EXPERTS MAY HELP US WITH AND SO WE DON'T BUILD OR HOUSES FOR A LIVING SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO FORGET AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WE DID.BUT I HAVE A QUESTION IF ANYBODY KNOWS THE ANSWER PROBABLY SHOULD KNOW THE ANSWER . THE HABITAT WITH THEIR HOUSES, THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK IT'S ON PANEL WHERE THE CHAIR BEFORE I WAS ON THE HABITAT BOARD BUT HOW DO THEY THAT LITTLE COMMUNITY IN ALL THEIR COMMUNITIES DOES THE TOWN TAKE CARE OF THAT OR IS OUR NATURE WAY OR THE HABITAT PROGRAM IS A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS COME IN AND SO THEY KEEP THE COST DOWN ON THEY HAVE HOME FUNDING THAT ALSO THEM WITH THEIR HOME IS CAUSE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS HABITAT ALL THESE DIFFERENT FROM HOW YOU WOULD BUILD A DIFF IN THESE AND THE QUALITY OF THE HOMES IS DIFFERENT STYLE OF HOME THE DIFFERENCE IS IS NOT ONLY ABLE TO AND PEARS OKAY AND I WAS CHECKING WITH VICTORIA SHE'S ON THE BORDER NOW THOSE ARE NOT PART OF LIKE A SUBDIVISION LIKE THIS WHERE THERE IS A THERE INDIVIDUAL HOME LOT JUST LIKE ON GO TO YOUR SHOW FOR SOMEBODY ON THEIR HOME AND THEY MAINTAIN THERE'S NO HIGHWAY OR ANYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL WELL THEY JUST MAINTAIN THEIR BUT THEY DO BUT COUNCILMAN HAMMOND SAID THAT YOU HAVE SUPPORT SERVICES FOR WELL I MEAN THE ROADS AND THE RIGHT NOW YEAH THOSE COMMON AREAS MAY MAINTAIN HABITAT STILL MAINTAINS SO I'M NOT SURE I'M TO OR TWO MONTHS IN BUT THE HABITAT IS NOTHING LIKE WHAT WE'RE TRYING WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW VOLUNTEERS BUILD THE HOMES HOMEOWNERS BUILT THE HOMES THEMSELVES SWEAT EQUITY OUT AND WHEN COMES IN WHEN THEY'RE IN THEY HAVE A MORTGAGE ON THAT OR THAT IT IT COVERS THE REST BUT THEY KEEP THEIR OWN PROPERTY CLEAN.
I'M NOT SURE WHO DOES MAINTENANCE OR THINGS LIKE THAT OKAY BUT I PROGRAM SO THAT'S HOW GREW AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT SO THEY THEIR OWN MAINTENANCE AND KEEPING AND WHEN IT COMES TO ROADS THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S COUNTY YOU KNOW ACTUALLY HABITAT OWNS THE SEVEN TIMES THAT RIGHT YEAH THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING IS OUR TOWN TAKING CARE AS WELL SO IN THIS AREA IF THE TOWN WERE TO TAKE OVER THE OPEN WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR INDIVIDUAL AND LIKE THE HOMEOWNERS WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS THEY WOULD ENSURE MAINTENANCE AND ALL OF THAT THEIR INDIVIDUAL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON WHERE WE ARE OR THE PROJECT HOW WE'RE GOING SINCE WE GOT THE ENTIRE TEAM ROOM BEFORE WE LET IT ANSWER THAT YOU MADE REFERENCE THE LIGHT PLEASE. YES PLEASE.
MY NAME IS MATT LYLE. I'M REPRESENTING WORK FOR STATE OF MIND.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NOW IT'S HELPFUL WE HELPING THESE DEVELOPERS AND TO GET TO THE THE NEXT IS WE WILL FINALIZE THE SITE PLAN THAT WE HAVE AND WE WILL NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL PROBABLY IN MARCH AT THE COUNCIL MEETING HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND MAKE SURE I HAVE IN BETWEEN AS WELL BUT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE TRANSFER AND TAKING OVER THAT SO THAT WHEN EVER WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S TIME TO ACCEPT THOSE AT THE END OF THE PROJECT THAT WE THAT WE HAVE THAT SUPPORT AND FOR I WOULD SAY ONE SIDE OF THIS CONVERSATION AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH ENOUGH A COUNCIL THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD INTO GOING INTO ARCHITECTURAL SO HOPEFULLY SOON I KNOW WE'RE NOT BUT JUST LIKE YES SIR SO HOW MUCH AND I KNOW THOSE NUMBERS IT'S
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OF FLOATING AROUND TODAY WITH WITH NOT A CERTAINTY SO WHEN WILL WE HAVE REAL NUMBERS I GUESS ONCE WE FINALIZE DESIGN AND YOU'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH OR WITH ARCHITECTURAL OR ONCE WE KNOW WHAT IS AS FAR AS MAYBE JUST OUTLINING OUR OUR WORKFLOW SEQUENCE WOULD BE HELPFUL IT MAKES SENSE TO ALL OF US THAT ARE LIVING AND BREATHING IT BUT JUST TO KIND OF STEP YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS I MEAN IT'S TAKING THIS PLAN AND WHAT OUR CONSTRAINTS ARE AS FAR AS WHAT OUR SETBACKS ARE RIGHT FRONTAGE ACCESS FOR UTILITIES, MANY DIFFERENT ROADS ALL OF IT THAT LEAVES US WITH WHAT'S LEFT OVER TO BUILD HOUSE SO THERE'S NOT MUCH SPACE SO WE ARE FINE TUNING THE PASSAGE OF OF SQUEEZING THINGS AROUND SO THAT WE HAVE BUILDABLE FOOTPRINTS THAT CAN BE DESIGNED UPON BUT BECAUSE IT'S A COMPACT PARCEL WE CAN'T TAKE IT OFF THE SHELF DESIGN AND JUST DROP ON BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A VERY INEFFICIENT USE OF OUR LAND.SO WE HAVE OUR CONCEPTUAL LAND PLAN WHICH DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW WE WOULD RUN OUR UTILITIES, OUR STORMWATER, ALL OF THAT ONCE THAT IS ESSENTIALLY APPROVED WE KNOW THAT OUR BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING WITH WITHIN HERE SORT OF AND THAT CANDIDATE AND THE TASK OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DEVELOPMENT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT NOW IN EVENT THE FOOTPRINTS CHANGE ONCE I HAVE A FOOTPRINT DECIDED ON THE HORIZONTAL I CAN AGAIN COST IN THAT BUT AS I'M TO SITE WORK CONTRACTORS TO PUT IN RUN THE SEWERS ELECTRICITY DRAINAGE THAT TYPES OF THINGS IT'S ALL LOOSE BECAUSE.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT THEY CAN TRULY GET DOWN TO THE DETAILS. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE GET OUR SITE PLAN AT THAT POINT I CAN BEGIN WORKING ON HORIZONTAL COSTS AT THAT SAME TIME THEY'RE WORKING ON THE VERTICAL DESIGN . ONCE WE GET A VERTICAL DESIGN SET AND ALL BUT SO WHAT THIS TIME TIME IS THEY'LL KNOW IDENTIFY HOW MUCH TIME WE NEED HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED OR THEY NEED TO TO BEFORE WE CAN ALL SAY WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE GOING. THE PRIMARY QUESTION THAT WE DISCUSSED HERE AS FAR AS THE OWNERSHIP OF THE ROADS THAT HAS AN IMPACT ALL OF THIS ASSUMING THE TOWN IS WILLING TO TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP OF THE ROAD SO WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL BURDEN THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BEAR TO MAINTAIN THIS IN THE FUTURE ASSUMING THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IS AND IS ACCEPTABLE. WE HAVE A DRAINAGE ENGINEER THAT IS BASICALLY ON STANDBY READY TO GO. UM, I WOULD THINK THAT FROM THE TIME WHAT IS YOUR TIME FRAME TO TO COMPLETE WHAT YOU HAVE HERE? I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE OTHER IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS HAVING A DEFINED CONCEPTUAL SO PLEASE 30 DAYS OUR DRAINAGE ENGINEER IS PART OF DAYS ARE FINISHED SO 90 DAYS WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE IN IN TERMS OF SITE WORK PLAN AND THE STRUCTURE PLAN PLAN UM THAT'S THE THAT'S THE FIRST STEP TO GIVE YOU THE ANSWER THAT NEED AS FAR AS I'M SORRY COSTS BUT EVERYBODY'S ACTIVELY ACTUALLY MOVED ON PEARSON OUR RATINGS ARE DROP YOU DON'T ONLY GO TO TAKE IT THEY CAN GO FOR APPROVAL TO TAKE OVER IN CONVERSATIONS IN BETWEEN THE NEED TO HAVE KIND OF A DIFFERENT COUNCIL RESOLUTION TO ONLY NEED ONE RATING OR TECHNICALLY TO TAKE IT OVER THAT THAT WILL BE A VERY AND REALLY IS JUST MORE A CONVERSATION COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHEN IT COMES THAT WE'RE NOT TOO COMFORTABLE TO TAKE TO DO THAT.
IT'S REALLY MORE OF A GOT IT SITUATION AS YOU SAID I THINK BETWEEN MYSELF COUNCIL AND COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND GET IT TO THE POINT THAT WE HAVE AN ANSWER TO MOVE FORWARD AND THEN GET THEM PROGRAMING. SO BUT THAT'S WHEN WE GOT TO THIS POINT THIS QUESTION AROSE AS WE KIND OF HAD THE VISIT UP THERE REALLY OUR LAST BIG HURDLE I THINK THE JOB BEFORE WE GET IS THINGS REALLY STEAMROLLS.
I THINK THE FIRST THANK YOU THIS IS GREAT EVENING AND I THINK AT A POINT NOW OR AT LEAST WE UNDERSTAND PARAMETERS SO I KNOW TIMES ALWAYS THE ENEMY WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING
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THINGS ROLLING BUT LEAST SOME OF THE TIME THAT HEARING THAT WE NEED NOW AND WHETHER THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THAT SO LET'S KEEP KEEP ROLLING THANK YOU I CAN'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITHOUT RECOGNIZING THAT AMANDA AND PEERS IS ALSO WORKING ON HELPING A FAMILY OF LOVE AND WILL GET BACK INTO A HOME UNDER A PROGRAM SAY THE SHOWS THIS AN AMAZING AND COMPELLING STORY THAT THEY TOOK THAT ON TO GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY IN IS IN IS ALSO SHARING AND MY MY BANKER HAS TAKEN MY MONEY THANK YOU THANK THE THAT'S AN AMAZING PART OF WANTING TO MAKE BLUFFTON SPECIAL AND DIFFERENT AND THEY'RE USING THAT A LOT OF THE TIME AND MONEY AND TALENT TO TO TO HELP A FAMILY AND IN THIS AN AFFORDABLE BECOMES AN AFFORDABLE COMPONENT AND I HOPE THE TOWN FIND THAT WE CAN FIND WISDOM TO SOME OUR BUILDERS ISN'T FOR US TO JOIN WITH THEM AS WELL. SO THINK OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. DO WE HAVE ANY HOUSE FOR YOU NO SIR I AM GOOD TO GO BUT.ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. YOU REALLY GO HOME.
WANT TO GET INTO WORK? OKAY. WE ARE.
WE'RE AT THE END OF OUR JOURNEY SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND .
YOU NEEDED TO DO YOU
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.