Jan 26, 2023 Solid Waste and Recycling Board

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN THE ROOM AND AN ADDITIONAL THANKS FOR THOSE THAT ARE ON ZOOM IN THE FUTURE, I SURE HOPE WE CAN GET THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. ANGELS DOING OUR BEST AND THE ANGELS THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE EFFORTS THAT YOU THAT YOU PUT INTO PULLING THESE MEETINGS SO I GUESS IT WOULD BE TO BE PM THAT GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING FOR ORDER SO AS AS

[2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

LET ME TRY ONE THING HERE. OKAY, BILL, CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN PLEASE.

I HAD SENT AN EMAIL BACK WE WERE GOT THE THE REPORTS AND I HAD SOME COMMENTS ON ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT I THINK SHOULD BE ADDED ON TO THE AGENDA I DID I WENT THROUGH THAT AND READ THAT AND THANKS FOR SENDING EMAIL TO ANGEL SO YES AFTER WE WE GET IN TO THE MEETING WE CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE COMMENTS THAT THAT YOU PROPOSED AND RADIO ANGEL REAL QUICK WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT THE AGENDA TO ADD THE DECEMBER QUARTER REPORT THAT IS GOING TO BE IN YOUR HAND OUT SO IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE LINK EARLIER. OKAY SO I MIGHT NOT HAVE IT THEN ANDY BUT THAT'S FINE WORK OR GET THROUGH IT SO LET'S JUST MOVE DOWN THROUGH THIS NUMERICALLY SO WE CAN GET THE THE REAL CORE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS MEETING.

SO WE'VE CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER I'VE PROPOSED APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA THAT'S AT HAND

[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – SEPTEMBER 22, 2022]

THERE WAS NOT A SECOND OF THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETINGS. RATHER THERE WAS SOME COMMENT BY BILL IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE IN THE ROOM OR ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO STACK HIM? SO WE MOVE OUR OKAY NUMBER THREE IS GOING TO BE LEFT OPEN SO WE DO NOT HAVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES KNOW OF THAT WELL ON I SAID THAT I SECONDED SO WE CAN MOVE ON OKAY OKAY

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[4. INTRODUCTIONS]

RANDY DISTRICT NINE LET'S GO AROUND THE ROOM. ANYONE ELSE WHO MIGHT BE THERE ARE YOU PLEASE ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU'RE FROM. YEAH, I FEEL GRANITE DISTRICT SIX LAWRENCE BRINE DISTRICT FIVE CHRIS PHINNEY MARINE CORPS VIEW FIRST LIAISON SALLY DENNIS SEVEN OH MY FIRST CHLOE MCGEE AGAIN I'M FROM SOLID WASTE RECYCLING OUR TRIAL ON BEFORE COUNTY SERGEANT MATT ROOK ABOUT A COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ANGEL MORRIS AND CASKEY SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING RANDY WE ALSO HAVE TWO FROM THE PUBLIC HERE SO ON NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA WE ARE GOING TO PAUSE FOR THAT ONE. OKAY WE AFTER THE INTRODUCTIONS CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT HERE? SURE. SO I AM SITTING DOWN IN UM AND BLUFFTON BECAUSE WERE TWO RESPONSES OF ATTENDANCE AND YOU GUYS ALL KNOW MY FRUSTRATION THERE'S SO MUCH WORK TO BE DONE AND WE'RE NOT GETTING IT DONE AND WE'VE GOT TO GET IT DONE SO . I SIMPLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO COMMUNICATE ANGELS BECAUSE AS OF 1:00 TODAY THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE TWO PEOPLE. SO THIS IS ME AS 11 A.M. TODAY I GUESS IT WAS EXCUSE ME AS OF 11 A.M. TODAY THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHEN I MADE THIS DECISION DID I DRIVE 2 HOURS FOR TWO PEOPLE TO BE IN THE ROOM AND? I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM. I DECIDED NO, I'M JUST GOING TO ZOOM OUT AND AND THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. SO PLEASE CORRESPOND WITH ANGEL AND AND CONFIRM THE VALIDITY OF YOUR ATTENDANCE AND IF YOU CANNOT ATTEND PLEASE NOTE THAT BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO BE THERE RIGHT NOW AND I'M FRUSTRATED THAT I'M NOT BUT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT I HAD PREVIOUS TO THIS CALL. IT MADE NO SENSE TO DRIVE 2 HOURS TO MEET WITH TWO PEOPLE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHY COME FROM THE SAME DISTANCE AND I'M HERE IF I DID AND I IF I DON'T MIND SAY MIKE BENNETT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE.

I'M ON ZOOM FOR OKAY. WELL I HEAR WHAT YOU SAY, BILL, BUT IN THE SAME VEIN I THINK IT'S ALMOST DISRESPECTFUL OF PEOPLE'S TIME SUGGEST I DROVE 2 HOURS SO YOU SHOULD A PERSON'S TIME OR INDIVIDUAL ALABAMA AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A CONFRONTATIONAL DISCUSSING WITH YOU ABOUT THAT BUT YESTERDAY I SPENT 3 HOURS WORKING ON ANOTHER AGENDA WITH COUNTY AND I PUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME INTO THIS COUNTY IN WHAT I DO SO WHEN I THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE TWO PARTICIPANTS AND I MAKE A DECISION TO NOT ATTEND A BUT RATHER TO DO IT OVER ZOOM I DO IT BASED ON MY KNOWLEDGE NOT ON BILL'S GOING TO BE THERE.

THIS DOES NOT MAKE ME HAPPY ALL THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T RESPOND AND THEN THEY'RE THERE AND YOU KNOW THE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS I'VE GOTTEN KIND OF UPSET BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ORGANIZED AND WE MUST BECOME ORGANIZED AND I KNOW EVERYONE AGREES WITH THAT BUT WE'RE NOT DOING IT WE MUST DO IT NOW.

OKAY. SO AFTER THAT LONG RANT AND WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT]

SORRY LEFT TO LEAVE FOR TOO LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS NOW AND I'M ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THAT YOU'RE ASSUMING THIS IS AREA TO THE GROUP TO COME TO IS JUST THE AMOUNT OF LITTER AND TRASH THAT IS ALL AROUND HERE AND WE SPANISH MUST TRAVEL ALONG THE ROADS IN THE CITY IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY WE SENT LETTERS AND VIDEOS TO SOME COUNTY BOARD PEOPLE AND TO THE CITY OF BEAUFORT AND TO PEOPLE ON SPANISH TRAIL AND WE WE PICK UP TRASH EVERY DAY AND WE

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AND I REALIZE THERE'S PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY OF PEOPLE DRIVING THROWING THE TRASH OUT THAT'S WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT BUT THERE'D BE SOME WAY TO HAVE MORE TRASH CANS AROUND ON TRASH OR IN THE CITY OR IN SOME AREAS THAT WOULD MAKE IT I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S JUST SUCH A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL AREA AND IT IS SAD THAT IT IS LITERALLY IN PLACES COVERED IN TRASH. WE WERE ON TRAIL AND I FORGIVE ME BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ALL THE SIDE ROADS AND EVERYTHING BUT KIND OF BY WHERE THE TOYOTA DEALER IS AND LITERALLY A DUMP TRUCK FULL OF GARBAGE BAGS, TIRES JUST LEFT THERE AND WE CONTACTED THE COUNTY CONTACT WITH THE CITY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW AND SO YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND TAKE CARE OF IT. WELL THAT WAS IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER.

WE WENT BY THERE THE OTHER DAY AND I REALIZED THAT IT PROBABLY NOT THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY BUT NOTHING'S BEEN DONE BY WHAT WE CAN SEE OR ELSE IT'S BEEN REFILLED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO LAZY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN TRASH AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT JUST COULD ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY SO MUCH TOURISM. OKAY, SO HERE'S WHAT GOING TO DO. HERE'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO BECAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY APPROACHING YOUR THREE MINUTE MARK. I'M AN EXTREME ADVOCATE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO GET INTO THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THAT I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO DO THIS ANGEL YOU HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER.

CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE IT TO GENTLEMAN AND CAN YOU PLEASE TEXT ME? THAT'S MY CELL PHONE NUMBER A TIME THAT YOU AND YOUR WIFE WILL BE AVAILABLE AND I WILL CALL YOU AND WE CAN TALK OVER A CONFERENCE CALL AND I WILL FILL YOU IN WITH AS MUCH KNOWLEDGE AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AND WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WE'RE GOING IF IT PERTAINS TO THIS PROBLEM IF I STARTED TO TALK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW WE WOULD BLOW THROUGH AN HOUR AND I WOULDN'T EVEN BE PROBABLY HALFWAY DONE. SO THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT THAT'S GOING ON SO WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU TO THE THREE OF US, YOUR WIFE, YOURSELF AND MYSELF TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT DISCUSSION THAT'S INFORMATIVE FOR YOU SOMETIME LATER TODAY? SURE, SURE. OKAY.

OKAY ANGEL, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE CARE OF MAKING HE GETS MY NUMBER OKAY.

BACK IN PERSON AS FAR AS COMMENT SO WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS ANYTHING FURTHER.

OKAY OKAY. OR IS IT IN REGARDS TO LIMIT OR SO FORTH AND SO ON I'M TOM'S WIFE SO I WAS KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE JUST GOING TO DOUBLE OUR TIME OR HAVE A FAMILY AFFAIR OR HAVE A FAMILY AFFAIR. ARE YOU WILL YOU BE AVAILABLE THIS AFTERNOON? YEAH. SO WE COULD USE THIS. OKAY, GOOD, GOOD.

SO YEAH, I LOOK FORWARD TO EXPLAIN SOME THINGS AND I THINK THAT YOU'LL BE I THINK YOU WILL BE SHOCKED AND VERY SICK OF THE LABORS THAT HAVE GONE INTO SOME OF THE MATTER AND WHERE WE ENVISION AND WHEN I SAY WE I START WITH COUNSEL AND THEN I LOOK DOWN TO ERIC AND THE WHOLE LONG NEAL THE WHOLE LONG LIST OF EVERYBODY WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL IN TOGETHER AND THEN IN THE

[6. UPDATES REGARDING MEETINGS WITH COUNTY COUNCIL (ALL)]

OKAY SO COULD YOU PLEASE FORWARD THOSE TWO EMAILS TO ME THAT YOU SENT THAT WENT UNANSWERED BECAUSE THIS IS EXACTLY TO THE CORE OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SEVEN YEARS SINCE I MOVED HERE AND I'M ABOUT READY TO IMPLODE.

I APOLOGIZE. YOU CAN HEAR THE ATTITUDE IN MY VOICE.

I'M I'M A NICE GUY. I DON'T GET UPSET BUT PLEASE FORWARD TWO EMAILS THAT WERE NOT ADDRESSED BECAUSE THAT'S TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. TOTALLY.

YOU'RE A BOARD MEMBER YOU'RE IMPORTANT PEOPLE AND WHEN YOU ASK QUESTIONS OF YOUR COUNCIL PERSON YOUR COUNCIL PERSON NEEDS TO RESPOND TO YOUR PERIOD THAT'S HOW THIS GAME WORKS.

IF IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY WE DON'T A GAME WE ARE ALL ON SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL PAGES.

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IT WAS KIND OF A OVER AND I READ DOESN'T MEETS THE AND I MENTIONED THERE THAT THERE WAS A SECOND RESOLUTION COMING OUT SO I'M ABOUT TO READ YOU THE SECOND RESOLUTION I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT HERE THE SUPPORT GETTING OUT OF IT FOR ALL OF US FOR A LITTLE BIT OF MORALE BOOSTER. BUT THE BUT WHAT WAS INTERESTING AFTER THAT FIRST THE TOWN IMMEDIATELY ISSUED THE TOWN ENGINEER TO START STARTED DISCUSSIONS WITH GROUP OF PEOPLE TO TO CREATE A COLLABORATION AND THEY DID AND THAT COLLABORATION INCLUDED SANDY CARTER NEIL DASANI FROM AS THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR OF THE COUNTY I MYSELF AS THE LIAISON TOWN COUNCIL STAFF TOWN ENGINEER BUCKELEW AND PETER CHRISTIAN IS THE SUSTAINABILITY OF EDDY CHAIRMAN I WE MEET MONTHLY AND WE DISCUSS VARIOUS PROGRESS AND ALL SORTS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND MORE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THE MURPH THE SUMMIT AND ANY SORT OF YOU SINGLE HAULER WASTE DISCUSSIONS AND ACTIONS AND SO IF OKAY I'M GOING TO READ YOU WHAT THE RESOLUTION IS THIS WAS JUST APPROVED IT TOOK A WHILE FOR US TO GET IT APPROVED BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET IN OF A BRAND NEW COUNCIL AT THE TOWN YOU KNOW ANY TIME YOU'RE YOU'RE KIND OF RE REEDUCATING WHEN THAT HAPPENS SO IT TOOK IT BUT WE GOT IT APPROVED AS OF LAST TUESDAY. SO AND THIS RESOLUTION IS A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC AS FAR AS THE DIRECTION THAT THE TOWN WANTS TO PUT THE COUNTY AND WILLING TO WORK OUT ON AND IT WAS APPROVED I THINK FIVE TWO AND SO ANYWAY IT'S IF IT'S OKAY ARE YOU GUYS OKAY WITH I READ THIS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE READ IT MY OKAY SO GRADER ISLAND COUNCIL OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND ISLAND IN BLOSSOM THIS RESOLUTION IS RECOMMENDING THE TOWN COUNCIL AND COUNTY COUNCIL WORK TOGETHER WITH THE SUPPORT RIDER ON THE COUNCIL TO DEVELOP A SUSTAINABLE AND VIABLE LONG TERM RESIDENTIAL SOLID MANAGEMENT AND RECYCLING AGREEMENT TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL RECYCLING AND COMPOSTING ON HILTON ISLAND AND HIS ACCOUNT WHEREAS COUNTY COURT THE COUNTY CONTRACTED LANDFILL WAS OWNED BY A WASTE IS NEARING CAPACITY AND ENDANGERS COUNTY'S ABILITY TO HAVE A VIABLE LONG TERM SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING AND ORGANIC DISPOSAL STRATEGY WHEREAS FOR COUNTY CONTRACT WITH WASTE MAGIC EXPIRES IN 2025. WHEREAS CURRENT RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE LANDFILL AND RECYCLING PROCESSING AGREEMENTS COUNTY AND WASTE MANAGEMENT REPRESENT A DISINCENTIVE TO RECYCLING BY IN ADDITIONAL COST TO HALF TO RECYCLE MATERIAL HAULERS THEREBY RESULTING IN REDUCED RECYCLING MATERIALS BEING PROCESSED THERE AS BEAUFORT COUNTY IS TAKING STEPS TO HAVE GREATER CONTROL OF WASTE AND RECYCLING BY CONSTRUCTING A MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY IN SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY TO REPLACE CONTRACT FOR THE USE OF THE WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR RECOVERY. WHEREAS BEFORE COUNTY'S NEW MATERIAL FACILITY MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY IS INTENDED TO OPTIMIZE EFFICIENT SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL INCREASED TONNAGE AND COLLECT ORGANIC COMPOSTING MATERIALS ALL OF WHICH FINANCIAL ADVANTAGES ALL OF WHICH HAVE FINANCIAL ADVANTAGE TO THE COUNTY WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND OUR OUR PLAN WHICH IS THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PLANNING GUIDELINES DOCUMENT HAS AS SEVERAL GOALS TO ENSURE LONG TERM VIABILITY OF SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL INCREASING RECYCLING IMPROVING ORGANIC WASTE COLLECTION WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD IS UNDERGOING A SWOT ANALYSIS TO IDENTIFY STEPS TO TAKE SURE ENSURE THAT THE ISLAND HAS A VIABLE LONG TERM PLAN THE MANAGEMENT EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT TRANSFERRING OF SOLID WASTE RECYCLING AND ORGANIC WASTE WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HILTON HAD SOLID WASTE RECYCLING ORGANICS COMPOSTING WILL REQUIRE CLOSE COORDINATION WITH UTAH COUNTY AS THE ISLAND'S RECYCLING MATERIALS

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WHEREAS A VIEW FOR A SOUTHERN COUNTY MURPHY IMPROVEMENT EXPANDED AT ISLAND COMMUNITY CENTER WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE FAVORABLE IN NEGOTIATING WITH SINGLE STREAM RECYCLING AND ORGANIC WASTE HAULERS WOULD NO LONGER HAVE TO MAKE EXPENSE AND FUEL CONSIDERING FIRST MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD HAS ASKED THE GREATER ISLAND COUNCIL TO WORK THE LEADERSHIP OF THE TOWN AND BEAUFORT COUNTY TO DEVELOP A VIABLE LONG TERM SOLID WASTE RECYCLING AND ORGANIC MANAGEMENT AND NOW THEREFORE THE GREATER ISLAND COUNCIL OF HILTON AND BLUFFTON WILL ENGAGE WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF COOPER COUNTY AND THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND TO ACHIEVE A VIABLE, LONG, VIABLE, LONG TERM SOLID WASTE RECYCLING ORGANIC SOLUTION INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING AND ARE THE KEY INITIATIVES NUMBER ONE TO SUPPORT THE INITIATIVES BY BEAUFORT COUNTY TO CONSTRUCT A RECOVERY FACILITY SOUTH OF THE BROAD TO PROCESS AND DISPOSE OF RECYCLED MATERIALS AND ORGANIC WASTE THEREBY REDUCING WASTE DEPOSIT THE WASTE MANAGEMENT LANDFILL EXTENDING THE LIFE THE LANDFILL AND REDUCING COST TO THE COUNTY RESIDENTS MEMBER FOLLOWING THE COUNTY ITS CONSTRUCTION OF THE RECOVERY FACILITY INITIATIVES BY THE COUNTY AND SECURING A SINGLE STREAM RECYCLING AND ORGANICS WASTE HAULER FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PROVIDERS AND TRUCKS ON HILTON ISLAND RESULTING IN REDUCED COSTS, REDUCE CONGESTION USE AND GESTION IMPROVED RECYCLING TONNAGE ACCOUNTABILITY NUMBER THREE IMPROVE AND EXPAND THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND CONVENIENCE CENTER TO INCLUDE RECYCLING AND COMPOSTING OF ORGANICS MATERIAL TO FURTHER ELEVATE THE LEVEL OF ISLAND RECYCLING REDUCE COST LONG TERM USE OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND NEW FOR COUNTING NUMBER FOUR CONSIDER EXPANDING THAT ISLAND CONVENIENCE CENTER INTO A SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING TRANSFER STATE SAVE FUEL AND REDUCE ON AND OFF TRAFFIC. THE ISLAND THAT WAS ACCEPTED AND ADOPTED TO INTO THE AS A RESOLUTION FOR THE TOWN EFFECTIVE OF LAST TUESDAY AND WHEN THEY WENT INTO THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN AS OVER THE PAST WEEKEND THEY IMMEDIATELY ISSUED THE SWOT ANALYSIS AND ARE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD THOSE SPECIFIC ISSUES SO A LOT OF THE WORK THE PAST FEW MONTHS GETTING THIS STUFF AND BUT I THINK IT REALLY LINES UP WITH ALL THESE INITIATIVES IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP KNOW BETWEEN THE TWO AND REALLY OF HOPEFULLY WINDS UP THIS BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST MIKE THANKS VERY MUCH I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION THOUGH DID GLEN WRITE THAT HIS GLEN PEPPER DESIGN YOUR TOWN COUNCIL NEEDS AN ATTORNEY IT SOUNDS LIKE AND SO YOU KNOW WE GOT SOME WE SOME PRETTY PRETTY STRONG ATTORNEYS ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE WELL I THINK EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THERE SOUNDS GREAT AND AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU IN GREAT LENGTH BEEN MEANING TO CALL YOU MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT CALLING YOU BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS IN REGARDS TO WHAT YOU JUST DISCUSSED. SO RUNNING PARALLEL WITH YOU IS BEAUFORT COUNTY AND WHEN WE GET INTO OUR SESSION WHERE WE HAVE A ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION WE CAN TALK MORE IT BUT THAT'S FANTASTIC. SO PORT ROYAL HILTON HEAD ISLAND OURSELVES I MEAN WE HAVE A LOT OF MOMENTUM AT THE MOMENT AND MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE A HICCUP AND LOSE SOME MOMENTUM AND OR WE IMPLODE BECAUSE OF REASONS LIKE WHAT HAVE HAPPENED HERE REGARDING MEETING IN ATTENDANCE SO I APPRECIATE MY MAN YOU'RE ALWAYS ON BOARD I SEE YOUR TRUCK MORE

[7. COMMENTS ON SWR NOVEMBER REPORT]

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SO YEAH WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. OKAY AND IF SOMETHING WE CAN GET THAT TOGETHER AND GET THAT DATA SET UP CAN I GO INTO WHAT WOULD IT BE GOOD ANGEL WOULD IT BE OKAY TO ACCUMULATE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DATES IN TIMES AND PUT THEM OUT TO EVERYBODY AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF SORT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE ONE THAT WE CAN ALL MAKE SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE IN ATTENDANCE BECAUSE THIS IS SOME IMPORTANT SUBJECT MATTER THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING YES, WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY. WHOEVER I INTERRUPT THAT I APOLOGIZE.

NO, IT'S OKAY. IT'S ME AND YOU GOING BACK AND FORTH ON ZOOM TRYING TO UP REAL QUICK. SO LET ME JUST ASK THIS QUESTION WHEN WE SAY ON THE REPORTS DO YOU WANT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THE TONNAGE REPORTS AND THE THE TRAFFIC REPORTS IS IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO SAY THAT WE'VE SEEN WANT TO SEE THAT FOR THE FOR A WORKSHOP OR DO YOU WANT ME TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS NOW AND I'M NOT SURE MY QUESTIONS CAN BE ADDRESSED RIGHT NOW EITHER. SO WE PROBABLY WANT TO SAY THAT SINCE WE HAVE CHANGED THE FORMAT OF THE MEETING THE PRESS AND EVERYTHING ARE NO LONGER INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION UNLESS WE RECEIVE COMMENTS BEFORE THE MEETING SO THAT THAT CAN BE INCLUDED. UM SO THE SLIDE YOU SEE UP THERE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW SO WE GET THOSE COMMENTS TOGETHER DO IT AT THE MEETING THE WORKSHOP THAT WE SCHEDULED . OKAY PERFECT. YOU GOT IT.

SO MIKE, WERE YOU ABLE TO LOOK AT THE MAPS THAT OR MOST CURRENT AND THE DATA THAT WAS MOST CURRENT? I'M LOOKING I'M LOOKING AT WELL SENT IN THE OKAY OKAY.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND I YEAH IT IS EXACTLY SO EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM AND MIKE AND I AND JIM SO I WENT THROUGH IT AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY HUGE IRREGULARITIES SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANY SIGNIFICANT COMMENT. IT'S JUST THE CONTINUATION OF IN MY OPINION THE DEGRADATION THUS THE REQUIREMENT FOR CUTS UPLIFT AND

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[8. OPEN ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION]

SO HERE LET ME JUMP INTO THIS NOW SO WE'RE GOING FROM 7 TO 8 SO I WANT TO CHANGE HOW THIS BOARD RUN BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME INTELLIGENT PEOPLE SITTING AROUND THAT TABLE.

WE GOT PEOPLE THAT OBVIOUSLY CARE OR YOU WOULDN'T BE THERE AND.

WE'RE JUST NOT HITTING ON CYLINDERS. BUT MY SUGGESTION WE NEED TO CHANGE THE MEETING SO I WANT A BUNCH OF DATA AND HAVE AN ANGEL OR SENIOR CAROLINE TALK ABOUT IT. WE LOOK AT IT PREVIOUS AND IF WE DO SEE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WE TALK ABOUT IT OTHERWISE WE JUST PASS RIGHT THROUGH AND WE GET TO OPEN ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION WHERE EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE ROOM AND MIKE AND I ARE ON OR EVERYONE PARTICIPATES BECAUSE WE'VE JUST GOT SO MUCH I'M GOING TO START IT AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A VERY VERY, VERY BRIEF SUMMARY OF WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY A ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION. SO AS YOU KNOW WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT INITIATIVES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR SO THERE THREE INITIATIVES THAT WE ARE STARTING THE YEAR OFF AND WE ARE STARTING THE YEAR OFF WITH A BANG ON ALL THREE OF THEM AND WE'RE NOT COMMUNICATING.

SO MOST OF YOU DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THIS THERE ARE TWO HERE SO ANY FIRST ONE IS ENFORCEMENT.

SECOND ONE IS EDUCATION AND THEN THE THIRD ONE OBVIOUSLY IS TO CONTINUE AND FIND OUR PLACE IN THE WORLD OF A SUSTAINABILITY CAMPUS WHERE SOME PROGRESS IS BEING MADE AND I'M VERY, VERY HOPEFUL ON THAT. BUT LET ME TELL YOU I'M ONE AND TWO.

SO EDUCATION WE A MEETINGS LIKE WHEN I SAY WE YOU GUYS WEREN'T OUT THERE I WOULD LIKE YOU TO BE THERE IN THE FUTURE BUT IT WAS THE FIRST MEETING THAT WE HAD SO IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE AT THE AND I'LL TELL YOU THE PARTICIPANTS EVERY CHIEF POLICE IN THE COUNTY SHERIFF P.J.

TANNER, THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY THERE WERE TWO FOLLOWS THAT COULDN'T GET ON THAT HAD HAD TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS THEREAFTER TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED. BUT ALL OF THIS IS IN REGARDS TO ENFORCEMENT.

ALL OF IT IS IN REGARDS TO ENFORCEMENT AND WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT IS UNANIMOUS THAT 2023 IS THE YEAR FOR US TO USE EDUCATION IN EVERY POSSIBLE METHOD WE HAVE SUCH THAT WE NOTIFIED THE PUBLIC WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH THIS ANYMORE.

SO STARTING IN 24 THERE WILL BE TICKETS THAT WILL BE CITATIONS AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS THROUGH COLLATERAL THROUGH POSTERS FOR INFORMATIONAL MESSAGES VIA HOWEVER HAVE THE RADIO TELEVISION WE WON ALL OVER THE BOARD. THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO GET THE WORD OUT. WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO EVERY CONTRACTOR IN THE COUNTY WE ARE GOING TO BE GIVING THEM COLLATERAL TO BE GIVEN TO THEIR EMPLOYEES, TO BE GIVEN TO CONTRACTORS THAT WORK FOR THEM. THE STATE THE THESE ARE THE LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA THAT WILL BE ABIDED BY AND IF THEY ARE NOT WE WILL REACT ACCORDINGLY MOVING FORWARD.

SO WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS YEAR TO SO GET EVERYONE ON BOARD WHAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT AND THAT IT'S WRONG AND THAT IT CAN BE CORRECTED AND IT IS AN ACTIONABLE EVENT SO IT'LL BE THE DEFINITION OF WHAT IS LITTERING.

IT'LL BE THE DEFINITION IS OF HOW DO YOU HAVE TO TETHER DOWN MATERIALS IN THE BACK OF YOUR TRUCK, SO FORTH AND SO ON. BUT WE HAD SOME VERY HIGH IMPORTANT PEOPLE I EXTREMELY PLEASED SO OUR ADMINISTRATOR GREENWAY ERIC WAS THERE, JARED WAS THERE NEIL WAS THERE UH OUR DEAR DEAR FRIEND DAVE WILHELM WAS THERE AND THEN LIKE I SAID

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I WAS IN A MEETING YESTERDAY AND WHEN I REFERENCED I WAS WORKING 3 HOURS YESTERDAY FROM THE COUNTY I WAS IN A MEETING YESTERDAY IN WHICH THE WRITERS OF THE CURRICULUM THAT WILL BE TAUGHT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN 2324 AND BE BEYOND I WAS I WAS IN A ROOM AND WE WERE GOING THROUGH AND WE WERE DISCUSSING WHAT WE WILL AND WHAT WE WILL NOT INCLUDE WE HAVE HAVE AND ARE IDENTIFYING SPECIALISTS IN CERTAIN AREAS FOR EXAMPLE STORMWATER RUNOFF I COULD GIVE THEM ANY OTHER EXAMPLES TO HELP US WRITE THIS CURRICULUM.

WE HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT, WE HAVE THE PERMISSION AND WE HAVE ENTHUSIASM AND ENCOURAGEMENT OF OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM TO GET THIS IN THE TEXTBOOKS FOR OUR CHILDREN TO UNDERSTAND SO THAT THEY ON A MOVING FORWARD AND CHANGE BEAUFORT COUNTY FOREVER THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO RECYCLE AS WE ALL KNOW OUR RECYCLING IF THERE'S ANY THING IN THERE THAT GET IN ANY WAY LESS THAN 1% MAKES IT DIRTY TRASH OR MAKES IT DIRTY LITTER RATHER IT'S JUST GOING IN THE LANDFILL SO IT'S THAT TYPE OF THING THAT WILL GO INTO A CURRICULUM SO THAT OUR CHILDREN AS THEY ADULTS THIS WON'T BE A GENERATIONAL PROBLEM BUT RATHER THERE HAVE BEEN THE INFORMATION THAT'S REQUIRED THAT MUCH OF THIS WILL STOP. I'M ALSO WORKING THROUGH OUR THREE GREAT FRIENDS IN COLUMBIA BILL HERBST, CARMEN WESTERN AND TOM DAVIS.

THEY ARE ALL INCREDIBLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS I'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH THEM.

I'M GOING TO CONTINUE MY MEETINGS WITH THEM. I'VE GOT A MEETING WITH BILL HERBST COMING TOMORROW. I'VE GOT A MEETING WITH WESTON NEWTON ON FEBRUARY THE 20TH EXCUSE ME FEBRUARY THE 10TH. SO IN THE BACKGROUND I WANT GUYS TO SEE HOW I AM TRAINED AS THE CHAIR TO PUSH AN AGENDA FORWARD THAT IS OKAY FOR A COUNTY PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE OR PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE OR ARE GOING TO TEACH HERE WHAT NOT TO DO AND IF YOU DISOBEY WE'RE GOING TO START OR WE'RE GOING TO START APPLYING THE LAW AND BE THE CHILDREN OF THE FUTURE GENERATION OF THIS COUNTY. WE'RE GOING TO TEACH THEM WHAT IS PROPER AND WHAT IS AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, DAVE WILHELM AND EMIL AND GERARD HAVE BEEN WORKING THEIR KEISTER OFF ON SUSTAINABILITY CAMPUS AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE YEAR THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO BECOME EXTRAORDINARILY PARTNERS WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT AND OR BREAK AWAY AND WE WILL TAKE THIS ON

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THIS IS MY SEVENTH YEAR, SEVENTH YEAR AND I CAN HONESTLY SIT AND TELL YOU THAT WHEN I MOVE TO THE WORK 20 FRONT AND ADOPT A HIGHWAY TODAY IT'S 113 I CAN TELL YOU THAT LAST YEAR WE PICKED UP OVER #100,000 OF LITTER. THAT'S A LOT OF LITTER AND IT'S SO THIS HAS TO HAPPEN IF IT DOES NOT I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THERE WAS A COMMENT YESTERDAY I WON'T SAY THE PERSON'S NAME BUT A VERY WELL RESPECTED PERSON WHO WILL PARTICIPATE IN WRITING THE CURRICULUM THAT I MOVED HERE FOR THE BEAUTY OF THE COUNTY I LOVE LOVE DRIVING TO WORK EARLY IN THE MORNING WHEN THE SUN COMES UP BUT IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT IT WAS WHEN I MOVED HERE AND IT'S SO SAD AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH BUT WE CAN FIX IT.

SO THESE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IN UNISON ALL IT'S ONE TEAM NOT INDIVIDUALLY MIKE LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING UP OVER AND HELP THAT I LOVE IT AND I WANT TO BE PART OF THAT I WANT EVERYBODY IN THAT ROOM BE PART OF AND THE SAME THING AND ALL THE INITIATIVES THAT I'M WORKING ON FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT TO EDUCATION AND BEYOND I WANT YOU ALL STANDING NEXT TO ME BECAUSE ALL OF US TOGETHER ARE GOING TO GET IT DONE AND ESPECIALLY IF WE COMMUNICATE AS I SAID WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVES WHO SIT ON TOWN COUNCIL.

I MEET WITH MARK LAWSON ALL THE TIME. HE'S A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE SO MARK PRETTY MUCH KNOWS EVERYTHING AND AND HE IS COMPLETELY OF IT.

SO IT'S A PART OF ALL THAT THAT HE IF YOU ALL KNOW I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE HE AND HIS FAMILY JOINED PALMETTO PRIDE AND TOOK THEIR OWN SCRAPS THE DR. HIGHWAY LAST YEAR AND THEY PICK ON A REGULAR BASIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEIR SECTION IS COLD SO WE CAN GET THIS DONE GUYS.

BUT WE GOT TO WE TO DO ONE OF A BETTER JOB THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN COMMUNICATING.

SO THAT IS MY BEGINNING OF THE OPEN ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION I SAID A LOT JUST NOW AND I ANSWER ANY AND EVERY QUESTION YOU POSED TO ME BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO BE WORKING THROUGH THIS WE CAN HAVE INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC ASSIGNMENT.

MIKE DO THIS GIL DO THAT SO FORTH AND SO ON. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYONE? YEAH BUT I DO JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING BECAUSE IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE CARRIERS ARE DOING THINGS BUT I OUR CHALLENGE IS TO DO A LOT FOR ENFORCEMENT. I KNOW MY GUYS HAVE BEEN STOPPED BY OTHER PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO DO STUFF SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S NOT BEING THAT AT ALL LIKE LET'S NOT FORGET WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING NOW. OKAY I GOT I GOT A QUESTION LIKE MOST MOST SORT OF GROWN UPS LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY ALL GROWN UPS STARTING FROM 18 TO I'M YOUNGER THAN YOU TO AT LEAST 71 YEARS OLD KNOW WHAT THE FINE IS GOING TO BE IF THEY GET CAUGHT LOITERING ON THE HIGHWAY. WE GO TO THIS TO THE YARD DOWN HERE.

THERE'S A BIG SIGN THERE THAT SAYS NO CONTRA, YOU KNOW. SO BRIAN.

EPPS NO. AND I PERSONALLY YOU KNOW, WE KNOW BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO SO WHY ARE WE WAITING AT LEAST A YEAR TO START ENFORCING THE WAY YOU DEFIANT MR. BRIAN I CAN'T SAY UNIFORM LIKE BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING AS FAR AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE LIKE EVERYONE KNOW AND I'M NOT MAKING ISSUES BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS THERE'S A NATIONWIDE SHORTAGE OF OFFICERS. YEAH SERGEANT A HERE WHO'S THE HEAD IS A ONE MAN ARMY OF A UNIT. THEY USED TO BE FOREMAN. HE COMES TO THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

HIS DUTIES ARE, YOU KNOW WELL PATROL THE YEAR I CAN LET YOU YOU KNOW, LET HIM GET IN ALL THAT ON WHAT HE DOES OTHER THAN LITTER SEND HIM MY BOSS HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIS SUPERVISOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHERE THEY HE'S FORCED TO YOU KNOW, HIS CAPTAIN HAS HAD TO FORCE HIS OWN HAND ON MAKING SURE HE HAS DESIGNATED LITTER DAYS TO HELP US IN PAST MONTH HE'S BEEN ON 170. I MEAN HE CAN PULL HIS STATS UP HIS COMPUTER, SHOW YOU HOW MANY

[00:45:01]

I UNDERSTAND. LET ME MAKE A SIMILAR BUT LET LET ME MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT HERE I AM NOT IN ANY WAY SUGGESTING THAT OUR TRAIL AND HIS GANG NOT DOING THEIR JOB.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT I'M STATING THE PROBLEM IS BIGGER THAN OUR CHARLIE AND HIS GANG.

WE HAVE TO GO ABOUT IT IN A MORE MACRO WAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING OUR SAT IN ON THAT MEETING AND IN OUR CROWD JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW I HAVE SPOKEN WITH LIEUTENANT GOODELL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WORKED WITH HIM AT DNR OR NOT BUT WE HAVE HIS SUPPORT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE TALKED TO KEEP CLEATS.

WE HAVE HIS SUPPORT. WE DO HAVE THE CHIEF OF BLUFFTON SUPPORT.

SO THE ORIGINAL MEETING THAT YOU WERE AT WAS A DISCUSSION TO GET THIS GOING.

WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF EVERYONE. NO ONE DISAGREES WITH US AND THEN IN THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT THEY WANT MAKE IS THE ONE I'M GOING TO REPEAT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE WHAT SHERIFF TANNER SAID IT WAS AN HONOR TO HAVE HIM BE ON THAT CALL BECAUSE HE PROBABLY IS THE LEAD LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN OUR COUNTY AND HE PARTICIPATED GREATLY REDUCE THAT FOR YOU THAT WERE THERE YOU SAW THAT AND LISTEN TO THAT HE SUPPORTS US IN TOTALITY THE PROBLEM AS YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER WE HAVE A HERE AN ENVIRONMENT HERE RIGHT NOW THAT STILL SOMEWHAT IS ANTI-POLICE SO TO PULL A CAR OVER ON OFFICER GOT TO BE EXTREMELY CAUTIOUS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THE REASON THEY PULL THE CAR NEEDS TO BE ONE IN WHICH IF ACTIONABLE SO SOME OF THESE INSTANCES THEY DON'T PULL CARS OVER BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOT THE WORD OUT YET. SO SOME OF THESE PEOPLE DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH AND THE OFFICERS CAN'T EVEN CORRESPOND WITH THEM.

I MEAN SO WHAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING BUT WE GOT TO TAKE IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND, START WRITING TICKETS IMMEDIATELY.

WE'RE GOING TO PHASE THIS IN OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. WE'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO EDUCATE. THAT'S THE VISION WAS SENT IN THAT POSITION THAT WE ALL WALKED OUT OF THAT ROOM WITH. SO AGAIN AND JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLY ON TOP OF THAT IF YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, MANPOWER WE NEED MANPOWER SO BUT POLICE DON'T I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB. WHAT I AM SAYING IS THIS IS OVER US ON MY DRIVE YESTERDAY UP TO BEAUFORT COUNTY PUBLIC I TOOK A PICTURE AND I FORWARDED IT DAVE WILHELM OF THE TRUCK ON THE SIDE OF A TRUCK A HAULER THE PARK CAME UP AND A DOZEN WELL THAT MIGHT BE EXAGGERATING . SEVERAL BAGS FLEW RIGHT OVER THE TOP OF MY JEEP AND RIGHT ON ONE SIDE OF ME AND IT'S JUST LIKE THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS HE DIDN'T HAVE IT SECURED. WELL, YOU WELL IS GOING TO KNOW IN 2024 THAT IF IT'S NOT AND IF THAT HAPPENS AND IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT LIKE OUR TROLLER ANOTHER THAT THAT GUY IS GOING TO GET PULLED OVER AND ONE LAST NOTE AND THAT IS THAT FINES CAN BE UP TO $1,000 BUT MANY FINES GET THROWN OUT AND OTHER FINES ARE REDUCED TO 50 BUCKS.

SO IT'S NO BIG DEAL. RANDY COSTA GUY RANDY JUST SPEAKING OF FINES, YOU KNOW I

[00:50:03]

IS THERE ANY I HAVE SOME MEETINGS WITH THE TOWN COMING UP NEAR NEXT WEEK.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN SAY RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF THAT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO START DISCUSSING WITH THEM, ASKING THEM FOR YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SUPPORT.

I MEAN ANYTHING TANGIBLE THAT YOU CAN THINK OF OR SHOULD WE SAY, YOU KNOW, AT A DIFFERENT TIME AND MAYBE MAYBE MAKE SOME? I WOULD I WOULD I WOULD SAY THIS MY FIRST THANKS AND AND THE SECOND ABSOLUTELY YES IT'S ON MY THAT I HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO YET BUT LIKE I SAID I'VE BEEN MEANING TO CALL YOU CAUSE YOU'RE THE GO TO GUY ON OUR STUFF BUT I THINK IT'D BE MORE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE I THINK BILL'S GOT A FEW THINGS HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT.

I THINK THE MORE APPROPRIATE ME TO CALL YOU LATER TODAY, THIS EVENING, TOMORROW, WHATEVER BECAUSE DEFINITELY ARE SOME THINGS AND THEN ALSO SHERIFF DID MAKE A COMMENT ON OUR CALL YOU WERE THERE A MAYBE YOU CAN REMEMBER THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT AN ORDINANCE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND. IT WAS ASKED TO BE INVESTIGATED .

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER IN LONG RENDITION OF THE RESOLUTION THAT RECENTLY GOT BUT THE WORD ATTACHED TO THE ORDINANCE CHANGED THAT WAS REFERRED TO BUT BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PARALLEL ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COUNTY NOT ONE FOR HILTON HEAD ONE FOR PALM OIL YOU KNOW ONE FOR BLUFFTON SO FORTH AND SO ON.

SO I THINK BUT I THINK JUST I THINK YOU CAN CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT AND I'LL FIND FOR SURE WHAT THE ORDINANCE CHANGE WAS. BUT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN THERE AND I DON'T KNOW I THINK MAYBE IT IS WRITTEN AS AN ORDINANCE BUT IT'S THE ORDINANCE IN THE TOWN OF HILTON HOW THE RECYCLERS REPORT ON A BILL THAT I THINK IS BIG CHANGE WHICH YOU'RE RIGHT WE REALLY SHOULD DISCUSS AND I'LL LOOK INTO IT, FIND OUT THE DETAILS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SHOW MORE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE POLICY AND TRYING TO GET TO THE YOU KNOW, TRYING TO ASSESS WITH THEIR LITTLE BIT OF INFLUENCE THAT THEY CAN AND TRYING TO BREAK THEM DOWN FOR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH RECYCLING AND PROVE WHERE THEY'RE RECYCLING. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU TALKED.

YES, YES. BUT CAN WE HAVE AN OFFLINE COFFEE OR JUST CONVERSATION ON THE PHONE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE BUSY ABOUT THAT AND THEN WE CAN SHARE WITH EVERYONE AND THEN AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO SPREAD THIS LIKE THROUGH ALL OF OUR DISTRICT SO AND AND EVERY ONE OF US ARE GOING TO GO AND TALK TO OUR COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN AND WE'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT YOU NEED TO BE WELL INFORMED PLEASE REMEMBER THEY GET INUNDATE.

IT'S LIKE GO GO LIKE LOST AND HE GETS INUNDATED WITH DOZENS AND DOZENS AND DOZENS OF THINGS AND. SO A LOT OF TIMES THESE THINGS JUST GET PUSHED ASIDE.

SO IT'S LIKE THE THE COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT THE MARINES YOU KNOW, THE MARINES ARE THE FIRST IN LINE TO RUN INTO BATTLE. HOW I UNDERSTAND IT. SEMPER FI.

BUT BOTTOM LINE IS WE GOT TO BE THE FIRST ONES TO RUN IN THE BATTLE RIGHT NOW AND WE GOT TO DO IT COLLECTIVELY. WE JUST HAVE GOT TO DO IT SO I WOULD COMMENT RELATIVE TO LIKE AT 4:00 HILTON HEAD TO DOCUMENT YOU SPOKE ABOUT ORGANIC COMPOSTING VERY DANGEROUS TERRITORY BEING SO NEBULOUS ARE YOU SUGGESTING IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COMPOST ANIMAL WASTE SLUDGE FOOD WASTE WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ORGANIC COMPOSTING THE

[00:55:05]

NO PLEASE THE FINE WHAT THE HECK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RATHER THAN USING THESE NICE CUTE IN TERMS OF ORGANIC COMPOSTING. SO SO BILL TO YOUR TO YOUR POINT THAT THING IT WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN VERY LOOSE LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT WHEN YOU ORGANICS IT CAN MEAN A MILLION DIFFERENT THINGS. ABSOLUTELY.

WHEN IT COMES TIME TO ADDRESS IT AND WHEN WE DEFINE DEFINE THAT'S WHY IT'S ALWAYS TIME AND SO ONCE WE COME DOWN TO WHERE DECIDE WHAT EXACTLY WE CAN AND CANNOT DO REALLY AT THIS POINT ALL OF THAT SOMETHING TO THE TABLE AND IT WILL BE DEFINED DOWN TO TERMS THAT MAKE SENSE BUT IT WAS WRITTEN LIKE THAT VERY LOOSELY WHERE IT DIDN'T USE VERY SPECIFIC TERMS SO THAT THERE IS FREEDOM TO WITH WHATEVER POSSIBILITY AREAS THEN IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN THAT WAY NOT JUST USING A CUTESY TERM ORGANICS I MEAN IT'S A RESOLUTION IF THE RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A ORDINANCE IT'S NOT. WELL, OUR SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN TALKS ABOUT ORGANIC COMPOSTING BUT DOESN'T DO ANY DEFINITION OF WHAT IT IS . I COME FROM AN AREA WHERE WE HAD BEDDING FROM HORSE AND CATTLE FARMS. WE FED FOOD, WE FED ALL SORTS OF THINGS ORGANIC BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU REALLY MEAN. I THINK THAT NOTICE WELL TAKEN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND BILL, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS I THINK NEED TO BE CLEAR IN OUR DEFINITION I KNOW THAT DAVID WILHELM IS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TECHNOL IGF TO ADDRESS DIFFERENT TYPES OF I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PERTAINS TO THAT IN PARTICULAR BUT IT MIGHT SO I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE NEED TO WRITE DEFINITIONS THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS.

CORRECT? BECAUSE I, I THINK MORE TO THE POINT IT'S ACTUALLY ADHERE TO THE DEFINITIONS GIVEN TO US BY THE STATES THAT RIGHT BILL NOW I DON'T THINK YOU'LL FIND THE DEFINITION ORGANIC COMPOSTING EXCLUSIVE A TERM BUT AS WE TRANSITION THROUGH THIS AGAIN I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH YOU BILL, THAT WE DO NEED TO BECOME MUCH MORE TERTIARY AND DOWN AND WHAT ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT? YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BUCKETS BUT RATHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOWLS AND SO I. I AGREE.

I AGREE. YES. SO IF YOU WANT TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING YOU GOT TO BE SPECIFIC IN WHAT YOU WANT TO IMPLEMENT AND IT'S ON A SCHEDULE REALLY YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. WELL THAT THAT'S WHY PART OF THE REASON WHY I GOT THE GUYS FROM COLUMBIA INVOLVED IN ALL THIS STUFF BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GO ALONG ON THIS RIDE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WITH US AND YOU KNOW HOPEFULLY THEY'RE GOING TO US IN THE IN INBOUNDS SO I CAN SAY IT THAT WAY AND MAYBE THEY CAN HELP US AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT POSSIBLY THEY CAN DO BUT I THINK FROM THE STATE LEVEL ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE THE COUNTY AND MUNICIPALITY IT NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT AND I'VE NEVER SAID THAT TO YOU BEFORE BILL BECAUSE THAT'S THAT THAT WAS DISAGREED UPON AND I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT MYSELF IN THE MIDDLE BUT YEAH YEAH SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY OTHER WE NEED TO DEFINE IT VERY SPECIFICALLY COMING OUT OF COLUMBIA ALL THE WAY THROUGH BEAUFORT IT BE THE TOWN HILTON HEAD OR BLUFFTON OR WHATEVER SO I THINK WE COULD PUT IN A CHECK MARK BY THAT ONE AND FROM THIS DAY MOVING FORWARD I THINK ANGEL WILL DELINEATE IN FURTHER TERMS SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND IF WE DON'T THEN COMMUNICATE AND SAY TO ONE ANOTHER PLEASE EXPLAIN

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SO IT'S ACTUALLY A SECTION OF ORDINANCES 62 IS THE SECTION AND THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES LIKE 6062 IS THE SOLID WASTE COMPONENT OF THE OKAY JOB WE JUST WENT WENT OKAY DOWN HERE WHICH MY NEXT QUESTION IS NOW WHAT IS THE REAL STATUS OF THE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN? I NEVER HEARD THAT HAD OUR REQUEST TO VOTE ON IT BUT IT WENT TO COMMITTEE IT WENT TO THE BOARD AND NOW IT'S APPARENTLY A FINAL BUT I CAN'T FIND IT ON THE INTERNET IT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE IN THE AGENDA FOR PFC AND FOR COUNCIL ANGEL COULD YOU PLEASE SEND THAT OUT IN A PDF EVERYBODY IN ITS IN THE ROOM AND ON THE PHONE SO THAT THEY HAVE A COPY INDIVIDUALLY AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOOK IT UP SURE I CAN DO THAT WAS I TRIED GOING ON THE INTERNET TO GET A COPY OF THE FINAL AND YOU JUST CAN'T GET IT ANGEL WHEN YOU SAID IT WAS ON THE AGENDA WAS IT IT WAS AT A PREVIOUS MEETING IT WAS ALREADY VOTED UPON.

YES. SO THE MEETING WENT TO PUBLIC FACILITIES AND THE MEETING IT WENT TO COUNCIL IT'S IN THOSE AGENDA PACKETS WHERE IT WAS PRESENTED SO WE WILL ON A GO FORWARD IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS HAVE THAT AND ANGEL'S GOING TO BE SENDING OUT I DATE OF A WORKSHOP THAT WE WILL PICK A DAY AND THEN WE CAN ADDRESS IT AT THAT TIME THEY'LL OKAY NEXT IS PROBABLY IS A CONTRACT $300,000 FOR THE MURF HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT I WOULD SAY THAT THAT ALL CONVERSATIONS AS IT PERTAINS TO THE MURF ARE IN INVESTIGATION AND IN DUE DILIGENCE THEY'RE LOOKING HARD THEY'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE NO CONCLUSIONS AT THIS POINT SO IF YOU'RE HEARING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I'M OUT OF THAT LOOP SO NO I'M I'M MORE CONCERNED IN THE DESIGN ASPECT THAT WHEN I READ OUR REPORT SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN IT'S MORE ORIENTED AROUND THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS AS OPPOSED WE GOT 62,000 APPARENT CURBSIDE COLLECTION POINTS IS THAT COMING TO THE MURF OR IS IT FOR THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS AND THE THREE TOWNS AND THREE CITIES? ONCE AGAIN I WOULD I WOULD ANSWER THE SAME EXACT WAY BECAUSE I'M TOP I WOULD BE ANSWERING IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT IT'S HOW WE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT IT.

BUT THAT DECISION HASN'T BEEN MADE YET SO I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER AND SAY WHEN WE HAVE WORKSHOP YOU KNOW AND BE MORE EDUCATED AND KNOWLEDGEABLE BUT I, I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN DELINEATED DOWN INTO THOSE TERMS. I REALLY DON'T I THINK THAT THEY'RE SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS AND THAT THEY'RE CONVINCED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE THIS YEAR. AND I KNOW NEIL HAS TREMENDOUS PASSION FOR THIS ALONG WITH

[01:05:02]

WE KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. YEAH, WE DO YOU WE JUST HAVE TO FIND DO HAVE A DESIGN DO WE KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE? ALL RIGHT. WELL, I PLAN ON HANDLING STREAMS FROM.

THE CONVENIENCE CENTER WHERE YOU GOT METAL SEPARATED GLASS THERE'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ANIMAL THEN BRINGING IN CO-MINGLED FROM A ROOT RACK. CAN I SAY SOMETHING, RANDY? WOULD IT BE PERTINENT TO NEIL'S NOT NOT IN THE ROOM GOING TO BE NO.

NO KNOW WHAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE PERTINENT IF THIS IS POSSIBLE IN ALL THOSE ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS OR ARE DELICATE SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO MAYBE HAVE HIM COME IN AT LEAST THE NEXT MEETING GIVEN THAT NOTHING YOU NOTHING DRASTIC HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN THAT MAYBE WAS LIKE UP THERE TO WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S GOING TO BE AT SIMMONS FIELD ROAD SITE WHAT I THINK DAVE AND NEIL HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THEM ARE GOING TO WENT TO COMMITTEE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A FIVE ACRE SITE AT THE SIMMONS FIELD ROAD FACILITY I THOUGHT WE LOOKING AT LAND FOR THEM I THINK IT'S JUST LOOKING AT LAND FOR THE I THINK IT WAS YEAH THERE'S A COMMUNICATION PROBLEM HERE BECAUSE YEAH I THINK IT'S IT'S PREMATURE TALK UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAVE DEFINITIVE YOU KNOW THEY WANT LOCATIONS ANYWAY THAT WAS IN COMMITTEE THEY'D MENTIONED WHERE THE LOCATION WAS A FIVE ACRE SITE I THINK I'M COULD BE WRONG I MEAN IT DEFINITELY COULD BE WRONG BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE PRESENTATION OR THE WAY I THINK IT WAS IN MORE IN A SUBJECT THERE WAS MORE IN A SUGGESTIVE WAY THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT WE BOUGHT THIS AND WE'RE DOING THAT. I MIGHT BE WRONG ON THAT. I MIGHT BE WRONG ON BUT I KNOW THAT THAT THAT'S LIKE NO YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT MR. WELL AND I'M WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, OFTEN AND I AT THIS EXACT MOMENT IN TIME COULD NOT SIT AND TELL YOU WHERE A MURPHY'S GOING TO BE AND AND YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU WRITE HOW CAN YOU WRITE AN ENGINEERING CONTRACT IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE? SO ONCE AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP THAT'S COMING UP THAT I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT, GREAT TIME BRING THAT UP BECAUSE YOUR QUESTION WAS LOADED IN WHICH COULD NOT POSSIBLY ANSWER AND UH I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT TYPE OF A CONVERSATION. I WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THIS POSITIVE MOVING FORWARD AND THERE ARE ANSWERS BUT I DON'T HAVE THEM.

ALL I CAN SAY IS I'VE BEEN THERE DESIGNED, OPERATED TOWN PERSONNEL.

I KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES. I KNOW THE CHANGES I'D HAVE TO TAKE AND THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE A TOWN WIDE COLLECTION PROGRAM IT GETS VERY FRUSTRATING. I, I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF FRUSTRATION FROM ME AND I'M SORRY I DON'T MEAN TO BE AS FRUSTRATED AS I AM BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD THINGS GOING ON I BUT BUT WE JUST CAN'T GO FAST ENOUGH. MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO LONG THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS BUT BILL I WE'RE SO MUCH CLOSER, YOU KNOW, FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, HITTING A TRIPLE YOU KNOW I MEAN WE'RE NOT RUNNING OUT OF THE BOX TOWARDS FIRST BASE.

I MEAN RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT SECOND BASE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, OUR TRIPLE AND HOW WE'RE TO SLIDE INTO THE BASE. I HAVE SO MUCH CONFIDENCE IN NEIL AND DAVE BUT I HATE TO SAY ANYTHING THAT I DON'T KNOW TO BE 100% FACTUAL IN PERU I HATE TO SAY THAT BUT I HAVE HEARD MANY DIFFERENT AREAS OF SPECULATION AND IDEOLOGY AND YOU KNOW IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO THEM BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T KNOW BUT WHEN WE HAVE THIS WORKSHOP WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND IN ANGEL IF I HAVEN'T ALREADY STARTED PLEASE INCLUDE NEIL AND DAVE WILHELM ON THAT INVITATION FOR THE WORKSHOP.

OKAY, BILL, YOUR POINTS ARE ALL VERY VALID AND I SEE YOUR FRUSTRATION.

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YOU YOU'VE RUN BUSINESSES SO THAT'S WHY WE GOT COME AT THIS AND WE GOT TO BE SO LASER FOCUSED. BILL, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO COMMENT BUT I WON'T BE USEFUL HERE. OH, OKAY. SO THEN MOVING ON TRYING TO THIS WITHIN AN HOUR AND 15 OR 20 MINUTES OR SO UH PUBLIC I'M NOT WE'VE ALREADY SOMEWHAT

[10. BOARD REQUESTS]

SO IS THERE ANYTHING ANYTHING AT ALL THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP BEFORE WE ADJOURN? OKAY. LET ME SAY THIS YOU FOR BEING THERE.

UM, I APOLOGIZE THAT I'M NOT IN FACT THIS IS THAT UH AGAIN, I JUST CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH. I, I RAN COMPANY. YOU GOT YOU GOT TO SEE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COME OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COME AND YOU GOT TO BRING SOME KNOWLEDGE AND SOME PRODUCTIVITY WITH YOU AND EVERYONE THAT ROOM AND PEOPLE OF COLOR THAT EVERYONE SO LET'S PLEASE REFER TO THAT AND HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT ON A GO FORWARD BASIS WE WILL BE MEETING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS SO THAT MEANS WILL BE SENDING OUT AND HOPEFULLY AND DAVE WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT IN THEIR CALENDAR OR IF NOT HOPEFULLY CAN BE MALLEABLE ENOUGH THAT WE CHANGE THE DATES OR WHATEVER BECAUSE WE RIGHT NOW ARE AT AN APEX AND WE'RE READY TO BUST OUT AND AND GO AND WITH JUST HOLDING OURSELVES BACK I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT FOR QUICK OH NOTE JUST ONE WORD WHILE YOU'RE ON BOARD REQUESTS. SO I THINK A LOT OF THIS ALSO COMES FROM THE FACT WE HADN'T HAD A MEETING FOR A WHILE I KNOW WE HAD THE DECEMBER AND I SAW WHAT HAPPENED THERE BUT CAN WE CLARIFY WHAT OUR MEETING SCHEDULED SHOULD LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD AND MAYBE KIND OF COME TO AGREEMENT BUT EVERY OTHER MONTH THAT WAS HANDED OUT THAT WAS HANDED OUT A LONG AGO. YEAH WHAT WAS IT. IT'S EVERY MONTH AND I CAN SEND THAT LIST BACK OUT TO EVERYONE . OKAY.

I'M SAYING THANKS BUT ALL RIGHT. YEAH, BUT BUT I.

I PROPOSE THAT THAT THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I PROPOSE THAT WOULD POSSIBLY TALK ABOUT MAYBE MORE MEETINGS BECAUSE IF IF GO 60 DAYS I MEAN THINGS CAN GET REALLY HOT AND CAN TURN COLD IN 60 DAYS. SO I'M THINKING IF WE CAN GO EVERY WEEKS OR SO AND KEEP PUSHING FORWARD WE WOULD BE ONE HECK OF A LOT MORE SUCCESSFUL AND I WILLING TO GIVE THE TIME.

RANDY LIKE TO SECOND THAT I THINK THAT A LOT OF THE FRUSTRATION IS COMING AROUND ALL THIS LACK OF OF AN ACTION ON MEETINGS MOMENTUM I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF A LOT MEETINGS BELIEVE ME THAT'S NOT I TYPICALLY WOULDN'T BE LIKE I WAS PUT ON MEETING EVERY EVERY MONTH BUT YOU'RE RIGHT IT'S NOT NECESSARY BUT I DO THINK THAT YOU KNOW, GIVEN GIVEN BILL'S FRUSTRATION AND YOUR FRUSTRATION AND BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS NEEDS AND MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE. BUT I WOULD YOU LOOK FOR MORE FREQUENT MEETINGS EVEN UP TO A MONTH AND I CAN PROBABLY I WOULD AGREE WITH EVERYBODY I'M SURE YOU'RE CRINGING BUT OKAY. WELL WE'VE GOT ZOOM. I MEAN WE'VE ZOOM WE CAN WE CAN DO THIS WE KNOW WHAT EACH OTHER LOOK LIKE SO ZOOM OPTIONS GREAT EFFECTIVELY YEAH.

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OKAY

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