Jan 05, 2023 Planning Commission

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IS MEETING TO ORDER YOU CAN PLEASE STANDING REASONS BECAUSE MY YOU IS YOU'RE READING ALL RIE NOTIFICATIONS THIS VERY IS YOU HEAR ME NOW AND NAME ON HOWZAT NO NO NO I'M NOT YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO WORK ON YOURS AS WELL. HOW IS IT OKAY KEVIN .

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – December 5, 2022 ]

[5. APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]

AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION NOT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK SOME OF WHAT I HAVE SAID FROM THE EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM THE AGENDA LINE SECOND STUCK. OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION I CERTAINLY I'M SORRY DISCUSSION EXPLANATION.

WELL I'M GOING ON THE ADVICE OF OUR COUNSEL AND IT WAS NOT NECESSARY THERE ARE NO THERE'S A LEGAL MATTER THAT IMPACTS US ON THIS AND THAT I, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO DO IT.

THERE WAS LEGAL MATTER BUT NOW I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE WAS EVER I DID NOT PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. THANK.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO REMOVE THIS AND EACH OTHER. THE ISSUE HERE.

ALL RIGHT. UNANIMOUS GOING TO MAKE A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE AGENDA THAT THE APPLICANT UNDER THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REZONING REQUEST HAS ASKED FOR A CONTINUATION OF HIS ZONING REZONING REQUEST UNTIL FEBRUARY AGENDA AND SO WE WILL PLACE IT ON FEBRUARY AGENDA NUMBER THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT'S THE ZONING MAP NUMBER EIGHT THREE BENTON LANE AND BLUFFTON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

YEAH. RAISE HAND IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S BEEN MOVED TO FEBRUARY THAT BEING THE CASE THEN WE HAVE THE FIRST ACTION ITEM DISCUSSES THE NEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SECTION THREE BUT FOR THAT FIREWALL CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY CBO ZONE STANDARDS. BEFORE I GET INTO THAT WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION FOR AND THE COUNTY LIKE THIS MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS PUBLIC SPEAKING IF YOU WANT TO APPROVE THIS GENDER NOW YES PUT THE MOTION OF OKAY WELL WE APPROVE THE FIRST AMENDMENT ALL RIGHT TAKE A VOTE FOR APPROVAL THE REMAINING AGENDA ALL THOSE APPROVE.

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GOING PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING I'M SORRY. ITEM SIX IS SUSAN COMMENTS AGENDA ITEMS ARE THERE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM AND WHAT'S ON THE MENU? NO, NO, I'M GOING I'M GOING ON OVER THAT TO THAT POINT ARE THERE IS ANYONE IN THE ROOM WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE NOT THE AGENDA. IT'S SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. OKAY REGARDING THE ISSUE ON THE AGENDA SOME COMMENTS REGARDING COMMENTS IF YOU WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR REQUEST TO SPEAK TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT SECRETARY OVER HERE ON MY LEFT RAISE YOUR HAND AND GIVE ME A FORM THAT I WILL CALL YOUR NAME AS IT'S OPTIONAL. I HAVE ABOUT 50 HERE AND THE 5151 AWESOME ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK OBVIOUSLY CAN'T THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

YOU'LL BE ALLOWED 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK THE CONDITIONS IN WHICH RESPECTFULLY LISTENING TO YOUR COMMENTS AT THE PODIUM WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM TO SPEAK PLEASE CLEARLY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD IN TURN I WOULD ASK BE RESPECTFUL TO THE PUBLIC FORUM THAT IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING IS RECORDED AND THEREFORE BECOMES A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD AS DOES ALL CORRESPONDENCE ON THIS ISSUE DIRECTED TO COUNTY OFFICIALS AND WE'VE QUITE A BIT OF CORRESPONDENCE. ONE REMINDER AS WE START OUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BODY TO COUNTY COUNCIL AN ADVISORY BODY WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND AS SUCH IT'S EASY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ISSUE LOOKS FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL THROUGH THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE. IT'S NOW BEEN LABELED LAND USE COMMITTEE AND IT GOES ON TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR THE REVIEW AND VOTING DETERMINATION.

SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL BE ACHIEVED TONIGHT IS THE FIRST STEP JUST THE FIRST STEP IN THE REVIEW PROCESS AND VOTING DETERMINATION BY COUNTY COUNCIL

[9. TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE (CDC): SECTION 3.4.50 CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY (CPO) ZONE STANDARDS ]

SECOND THING I WILL SAY ABOUT THIS IS THAT WHILE EVERYONE THINKS THAT THIS IS RELATED TO THE PINE ISLAND ISSUE, THIS IS NOT BEING DRIVEN BY THE PINE ISLAND REQUEST.

THIS IS BEING BY CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT THE EXISTING LANGUAGE IN OUR ORDINANCE FROM TEXT THAT WAS WRITTEN MANY, MANY YEARS AGO PRIOR TO MANY LEGAL CHALLENGES THAT HAVE

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SO THERE WAS A APPLICATION FILED BY PINE ISLAND TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP TO REMOVE PINE ISLAND FROM THE CULTURAL OVERLAY AND WE THAT WE BE ALLOWED GO FORWARD WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO STRENGTHEN THE CULTURAL PRESERVATION OVERLAY WITH THE ISLAND PROPERTY WITHIN THAT CULTURAL PRESERVATION OVERLAY AND WE REQUESTED THAT WE TABLE THEIR APPLICATION FOR MAP AMENDMENT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THAT FROM THE MAP AMENDMENT IS NOT ON THE TABLE TONIGHT IT IS STRICTLY A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND NOT FROM THE APPLICANT OR THE DEVELOPER OF PINE ISLAND BASED ON OUR CONCERNS AND LET ME ADDRESS ONE ADDITIONAL THING THIS HAPPENS ROUTINELY AS WE'RE DEALING WITH SITUATIONS YOU ARE DEALING WITH THIS A SIMILAR SITUATION JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHERE WE HAD SOMEONE THAT PLACED A CARGO CONTAINER ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE GOT A COMPLAINT ON AND THEY INDICATED THEY WANTED TO CONVERT THAT CARGO CONTAINER INTO A RESIDENCE SOME TYPE. WELL, WE PROCEEDED IMMEDIATELY TO BRING FORWARD A AMENDMENT TO YOU ALL FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION COUNTY COUNCIL TO CHANGE THE TEXT OF THE CODE TO PROHIBIT THOSE USES BEFORE THAT PERMIT WAS ISSUED. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS EVENING IS STANDARD PRACTICE IN THE COURSE OF DOING BUSINESS ON A DAILY BASIS SOMETIMES DISCOVER THINGS AT THE STATE LEVEL OR AT AN ADMINISTRATION LEVEL THAT REQUIRES US TO MODIFY THE EXISTING LANGUAGE THE CODE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS EVENING YOU AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF COURSE HAVE THE RIGHT AS AN ADVISORY BODY TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO RECOMMEND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO YOU CAN EITHER MODIFY THE THE TEXT YOU CAN RECOMMEND DENIAL OR YOU CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND WE'RE CERTAINLY OKAY WITH THAT. BUT WE FELT THAT YOU NEEDED TO HEAR THE CONCERNS THE EXISTING LANGUAGE OF THE CPO, THE POTENTIAL PITFALLS WITH ANY TYPE OF LEGAL DEFENSE THAT WE MAY NEED TO PUT FORWARD. SHOULD THE CURRENT LANGUAGE THE CPA BE CHALLENGED WHICH COULD RESULT ULTIMATELY AFTER SEVERAL OR YEARS AND THE TOTAL ELIMINATION OF THE CULTURAL PRESERVATION OVERLAY SHOULD CERTAIN ASPECTS THE CURRENT CULTURAL PRESERVATION OVERLAY LANGUAGE BE FOUND BY A COURT TO BE INVALID OR ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS SO I'M GONNA TURN TO WARD NOW WHO IS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SHE'S GOING TO COME UP AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE CONCERNS WITH THE CURRENT LANGUAGE YOU GET EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION AGAIN I'M FRED WARD. I OVERSEE THE DEPARTMENTS AND ADMINISTRATION YEAH WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY AGAIN I'M GOING TO REPEAT SOME OF WHAT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR JUST SAID THE COUNTY THROUGHOUT THE LAST YEAR HAS HAD OVER AMENDMENTS TO THE CDC.

THIS IS YET ANOTHER OF THE COUNTY CONTINUOUSLY LOOKING AT THE CDC WHEN PROBLEMS COME UP OR WHEN ISSUES OR CONCERNS CERTAIN COME FORWARD. THIS IS NOT WHAT I PRESENTED TO YOU IS NOT ABOUT A DEVELOPER. IT IS ABOUT THE CDC AND ABOUT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF AND HOW IT READS. I WANT TO BE FOCUSED IN THAT AS IT CAME IN SCHRADER JUST SAID THERE ARE CERTAIN ASPECTS TO THIS ORDINANCE IN THE WAY AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN THAT COULD LEAD TO POTENTIAL LITIGATION AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF HAVING THE CBO ELIMINATED IN ITS

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THAT DEFINITION CAUSING CONCERNS OR LEGAL DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTION OF WHAT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO AN EIGHT HOLE GOLF COURSE YOU WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED TO FILL IT OUT THERE A DRIVING RANGE A PUTT FORCE AND WHY WOULD THOSE THINGS NOT BE CONSIDERED AN OUTLIER ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE OTHER REASONS TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN OVERLY BROAD ORDINANCE IN THE SENSE THAT THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE PERMISSIBLE AND ARE NOT EXPLICITLY FROM THIS LIST SUCH AS SHOPPING MALLS, MOVIE THEATERS, DRIVING RANGES WHICH I ALREADY SAID THEREFORE WE ARE ONLY EXCLUDING CERTAIN TO THIS AND AGAIN IT'S UNCLEAR WHAT THOSE WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE IN TERMS OF THE CONNECTION TO THE OVERALL PURPOSE OF THE CPO.

IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COUNTY TO AMEND LANGUAGE TO ALLOW FOR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO BE ENTERED INTO IN ORDER TO ALLEVIATE ANY CONCERNS REGARDING ACCESS TAKINGS POSSIBLY AND OVERLY BROAD ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS CLAIMS. THERE'S MANY LEGAL MANY LEGAL TERMS YOU CAN THROW OUT THERE AS FAR AS WHAT CONCERNS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THE AMENDMENT HERE IS ASKING FOR THE ABILITY TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ENTERED INTO TO ALLOW FOR COUNTY COUNCIL AT THAT POINT AND STAFF TO WITH A DEVELOPER TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NO LEGAL ASPECTS LEGAL CLAIMS THAT COULD BE MADE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION Q EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY WHAT IS THE LACK NEXUS? I'M NOT A LAWYER. I DON'T KNOW THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE RESTRICTION OF A99 HOLE GOLF COURSE. I'LL USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.

IT'S A FAIRLY EASY ONE RESTRICTING A NINE HOLE GOLF COURSE IF THEY DON'T WANT US AS A PUBLIC OR THE COUNTY DOESN'T WANT GOLF COURSES. OKAY BUT THE CONNECTION TO IT BEING A COASTAL PROTECTION OVERLAY AND ALLOWING AN EIGHT HOLE GOLF COURSE THERE'S A OF IN NEXUS OF WHAT WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND IT'S STILL NOT GETTING IT SO THE LACK OF NEXUS MEANS WHAT IT MEANS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE RESTRICTION OR THE LANGUAGE AND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE CPO THAT AND SO BASICALLY IT'S A LOGICAL CONNECTION BETWEEN.

WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON THE CULTURE NEGATIVELY OF SINGLE ISLAND BETWEEN AN EIGHT HOLE GOLF COURSE? IT'S OKAY TO HAVE AN EIGHT HOLE GOLF COURSE IN THE CURRENT LANGUAGE THAT DOES NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE CULTURE OF THE ISLAND.

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THAT'S I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING YEAH. YEAH.

RIGHT, RIGHT YEAH RIGHT YEAH IS INTERESTED IN APRIL VERSUS NINE WAS I JUST SAY WOW REALLY NOT RIGHT WELL THE ISSUE IS IS THAT THE CURRENT OVERLAY ALLOWS AN EQUAL GOLF COURSE OKAY SO A DEVELOPER COULD ZERO IN IT DOESN'T ALLOW ANY GOLF COURSES SAY THEY COULD GO TO A WHOLE GOLF COURSES ON THE SAME OF PROPERTY AND THEN A THIRD TO HOLE GOLF COURSE IF YOU CAN HAVE A HOLES OKAY THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THIS ORDINANCE AGAIN THE LANGUAGE IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS SO BROAD THERE IS NO CONNECTION AND NO STANDARD TO SAY HOW TO BE ENFORCED AND APPLIED. IT JUST SAYS YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE IN A HOLE GOLF COURSE.

IT DOESN'T TIE IT TO A PROPERTY . IT DOESN'T TIED TO A TAX NUMBER THEY CAN CALL YOU KNOW, THEY CAN HELP THREE GOLF COURSES ADJACENT EACH OTHER ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH DIFFERENT NAMES. THERE'S A TON OF LOOPHOLES IN THE CURRENT LANGUAGE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TIGHTEN UP THIS LANGUAGE TO BASICALLY ESTABLISH A WAY FOR THE CULTURAL PREPARATION OVERLAY TO ACTUALLY DO TO FULFILL ITS PURPOSE AND INTENT TO THE CULTURE OF ON AN ISLAND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN AND DO A DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CULTURAL PRESERVATION OVERLAY AND THAT WOULD BE THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT JUST SAYING THAT THESE THINGS ARE PROHIBITED DOES NOTHING TO ENHANCE THE CULTURE OF ST HELENA ISLAND AND YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A RATIONAL YOU GOT TO HAVE A RATIONAL EVEN FOR A GATED COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW WHAT ABOUT A GATED COMMUNITY HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE CULTURE OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND. WHAT A RESORT WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE CULTURE OF SAINT HELENA. THAT'S THE CONCERN. AND THE REAL CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS FOR ME AS A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER AND ALSO AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR NOW IS THE NEXUS BETWEEN THE CURRENTLY WOULD ALLOW ON AN EIGHT HOLE GOLF COURSE BUT SAY ON A NINE HOLE GOLF COURSE IS TOO MUCH IF YOU ADD ONE ADDITIONAL HOLE THAT'S A REAL PROBLEMATIC ISSUE IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU ALL .

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP TO SAY THAT GOLF COURSES ARE ALLOWED GATED COMMUNITY MIGHT BE ALLOWED RESORT MIGHT BE ALLOWED BUT THE DEVELOPER IF THEY WANT TO PROPOSE THOSE THINGS THEY HAVE TO ENTER INTO AN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY THAT WILL UNDERGO A LARGE PUBLIC PROCESS OF PUBLIC SCRUTINY TO BASICALLY SAY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW THOSE USES OR DO THOSE USES IN THIS AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO FURTHER THE PURPOSE AND THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE AND THEN ENHANCE THE CULTURAL ASPECTS OF SAINT PAUL ON THE ISLAND AND PROTECT THAT AND ENHANCE THAT AND THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE TEXT OF THEM IS. SO GO AHEAD. I THINK KEVIN MAY I MEAN TO TAKE UP A LOT OF THE TIME HERE BUT WELL I THINK KEVIN HAD HAND UP.

YEAH BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THIS CODE AND I'M LOOKING AT GOLF YOU SAID NOTHING'S GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT OF IT. YOU ONLY WANT TO SEE IT IN WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. SO SO IF SOMEBODY CAME ALONG AND SAID I'M GOING TO DO WHAT EIGHT AND EIGHT AND A TWO OR SOME OTHER MICKEY MOUSE KIND OF A GOLF COURSE? HOW WAS THAT HIGHLIGHTED REMARKS GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL IF YOU IF YOU CREATE A PROVISION TO ALLOW THEM TO DO IT CORRECTLY, THEN YOU TAKE AWAY THE NEED TO TRY

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NO UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WHAT I'M THINKING OF IS THE EXAMPLE EVERY GAME WHICH IS YOU KNOW OKAY SO I CAN PUT AN 18 AND I'LL PUT A66 AND SIX RIGHT AND I'M NEED THAT GOLF COURSE THE JOHN GOLF COURSE AND THE MARY GOLF COURSE THREE SEPARATE GOLF COURSES ACCORDING TO THIS I CAN HAVE THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. MY SECOND QUESTION THIS IS JUST KIND OF A TECHNICAL ONE THAT LANGUAGE THERE IS IT EVEN CORRECT ANYWAY DOES LOOK LIKE YES WELL READ IT IT SAYS THIS USE INCLUDES REGULATION AND PAR THREE GOLF COURSES HAVING NINE OR MORE HOLES. THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S DESCRIBING AN EIGHT HOLE COULD BE LONGER HOLES YOU COULD PUT OR FIVE GOLF COURSE. YES.

ACCORDING TO THIS. YES. OKAY.

YOU PUT A HOLE IN RIGHT WELL WELL WHAT SAY IT IS AND REGULATE OR PAR THREE RIGHT.

YEAH SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IF THIS IS ALREADY HERE AND THIS IS NOT COMING OUT AND THIS IS BEING ADDED IN HOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SAY TO THE DEVELOPER, HEY YOU YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU GOT HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

HE'S GOING TO TURN AROUND SAY NO, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT SAYS YOU'RE RIGHT I CAN HAVE A REGULATION IT SAYS GOLF COURSES OKAY AND PAR THREE GOLF COURSES SO WHICH MORE THAN ONE RIGHT NOW IT'S A GOOD IT'S A GOOD THOUGHT IT'S GOOD POINT IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD TIGHTEN UP WELL THAT'S WHY MY CONCLUSION BECAUSE I'M OH YEAH I WOULD I'D ASK YOU FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IF IF I NEEDED IT I DON'T NEED IT. I'M GOING TO FILE UNDER THIS.

YEAH I MEAN JUST BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE YOU PRESENT SOMEONE AN OPTION TO DO SOMETHING AGAIN THE RIGHT WAY THEY'RE GOING TO CHOOSE THE DEVELOPMENT OPTION AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO FIND A LOOPHOLE. I DON'T THINK IT'S A LOOPHOLE.

I THINK THAT'S THE CODE . YEAH, I AGREE. I AGREE WITH YOU.

YOU KNOW I JUST DID AN APPLICATION. I REALLY WE PROBABLY NEED TO TIGHTEN UP THAT LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE IT IS CLEAR IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO MORE THAN IF THEY'RE GOING TO A GOLF COURSE. IT NEEDS TO BE 50 ACRES AND IT NEEDS TO INCLUDE AND SO WITH ALL YEAH, YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON CHUCK ATKINSON OF THE DIVISION DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT RECREATION. I DON'T THINK THE LINES ARE AS CLEARLY DELINEATED EVEN AS YOU'RE MAKING THEM OUT TO BE. AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT ALL TO SAY THAT WE COULD DO THREE SIX HOLE GOLF COURSE AS.

ONE DEVELOPMENT I DON'T THINK IS A FACTUAL STATEMENT. THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL REQUIREMENTS THAT EACH OF THOSE THREE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD HAVE TO DO AND THEY WOULD HAVE VERY UNIQUE BOUNDARIES AND SEPARATIONS BETWEEN THE TWO. SO TO SAY THAT IS A CLEAR WORKAROUND IS ANOTHER SAYING EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID BUT IF THAT WERE THE CASE THAT'S NOT THE CASE. SO NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, ALL THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE BEHIND ME RIGHT? THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM.

THIS IS WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO BECAUSE OF WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED THE.

LIKELIHOOD OF THE COUNTY BEING SUED OVER THIS IS EXTREMELY HIGH IN MY IF THE COUNTY IS SUED RATHER THAN GOING WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OPTION SO THAT ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL FOLKS AND ALL OF YOU AND EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL CAN GET THE DEVELOPMENT AND BE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT. THERE'S A VERY LIKELIHOOD THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO TO COURT IF

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THEY'RE NOT RIGHT. SO WE'RE ALL WELL INTENTIONED. WE ALL WANT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR WHOLE AREA AND FOR THE OVERLAY. SO THERE'S A HOLE IN BOAT THE COUNTY IS TRYING DESPERATELY THE STAFF TRYING TO PLUG THIS HOLE BEFORE IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE THE SHIP ROLLS OVER. SO WE THROW HYPOTHETICALS OUT BUT TO SAY I'LL GO BACK TO WHERE I STARTED TO SAY THAT WE COULD DO THREE SIX HOLE GOLF COURSES, MAKE IT AN 18 HOLE DEVELOPMENT AND USE THAT AS A WORKAROUND THAT IS NOT FACTUAL.

THERE WOULD BE HUGE ISSUES WITH HOW THAT IS DESIGNED, HOW THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE SEPARATE, THE ACCESSES WOULD HAVE TO PLAY OUT. IT WOULDN'T WORK.

SO IF THEY CAME TO STAFF AND WANTED TO DO AND IT LOOKED LIKE A DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD NOT FLY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT THAT WE'RE OF WE'RE CORRECTING SOMETHING THAT IS A VERY LONGSTANDING ERROR. YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT GET.

JONES BUT IF IT DOES, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE FACT NOBODY IN THIS ROOM IS GOING TO GET A VOTE ON THAT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL THIS WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IT WHERE EVERYBODY WILL HAVE SAY IN THE LONG RUN AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS EPA WILL BE SERVED.

SO OH YEAH. JUST A QUESTION ABOUT. THE PROCESS YOU WENT THROUGH TO PLUG THE HOLE IN THE BOAT AS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WORK WAS DONE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOOK TWO YEARS TO ROLL OUT LOT OF DIALOG, A LOT OF TOWN MEETINGS, CHURCHES, SCHOOLS, ETC. ETC. AND A LOT OF THINGS CAME OUT OF THAT AND WENT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'RE STRENGTHENING THE CULTURAL, HISTORIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL OVERLAY IN SAINT HELENA. HAVE YOU AND THAT INCLUDES AS I UNDERSTAND IT THE CREATION OF A CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY COMMITTEE. BUT I HAVING MEETINGS RIGHT NOW AS A FUTURE CALENDAR AND AS YOUR PROCESS TO HELP BLOCK THIS WHOLE DID CONSULT WITH THEM DID YOU WORK WITH THEM DID YOU GET THEIR INPUT SO THAT YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT PLUG IN THE RIGHT HOLE SO FIRST OF ALL IF THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM WOULD PLEASE PLEASE BE COURTEOUS PLEASE IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED. SO THE THEIR FIRST MEETING WAS HELD LONG AFTER THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION STARTED RIGHT. STAFF DID NOT PICK THIS UP TWO WEEKS AGO OR RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG STANDING ISSUE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WORKING WITH OUR LEGAL STAFF. WE WERE FAR DOWN THE FIELD WHEN THAT COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED IN THE FIRST MEETING WAS HELD IN DECEMBER OUR STAFF PRESENTED THIS ISSUE AS BEING A STANDING ISSUE. IT DISCUSSED PUBLICLY AND IT WAS TOLD TO COMMITTEE AT THEIR FIRST MEETING. SO MY PERCEPTION ON THAT IS YES AT THE EARLIEST IT WAS. NOW THE COMMITTEE IS HAS IT BEEN VETTED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE AND VOTED IN IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION OUT OF THAT COMMITTEE? YEAH, NO BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW AND THEY'VE ONLY MET ONCE AND THIS IS ALREADY BEEN GOING DOWN THAT TRACK LONG BEFORE THEY HAD THEIR FIRST MEETING. DID YOU WERE YOU AT THAT MEETING THAT WAS NOT AT THAT MEETING I WAS ON VACATION SORRY.

OKAY GREAT. SO I WAS AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE MISSING IS THE POINT THAT WE'RE NOT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS MEAN FUNDAMENTALLY THAT MEETING INCLUDES LOT OF PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE FOR 25 YEARS. SO I DON'T KNOW I MEAN TO ME I DON'T REALLY KNOW. PERHAPS YOU COULD TELL ME WHAT YOU EXACTLY AND AND WHY YOU KNOW YOU ARE TELLING THE COMMITTEE THAT IT'S JUST BEEN SEATED WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING I'M SORRY THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS JUST BEEN DEFEATED SEE SEE I'M NOT TELLING ANYBODY WHAT YOU SHOULD DOING. I AM SIMPLY AS A STAFF MEMBER GIVING OUR PERSPECTIVE AND I HAVE CERTAINLY NOT GOT ANYBODY IN IT FEELS LIKE A THREAT. IT FEELS LIKE TO ME THAT YOU'RE THREATENING PEOPLE WITH A LAWSUIT TO THE COUNTY ESSENTIALLY TO LET YOU DO THAT AND I MAY RESPOND THIS IS NOT A THREAT OF LEGAL OF ANY LEGAL ACTION.

THIS IS US COUNTY STAFF INFORMING YOU AS A COMMISSION THAT THIS IS A POSSIBILITY.

THE FACT THAT I AM STANDING UP HERE AND VERY CAREFULLY USE MY WORDS BECAUSE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WAS NOT BEING HELD THAT WAS PROVIDING YOU LEGAL ADVICE IN THE SENSE THAT I'M WARNING

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BUT THE RESULT OF THAT THE LIKELY RESULT IF A WERE TO WIN IN THAT SUIT THE RESULT WOULD BE THE CPO AND BEING TAKEN AWAY AS SO THAT THAT'S WHY WE'RE TAKING THE STEPS IN WHICH WE ARE TO DO THAT BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL OPTIONS AND I'M TELLING YOU THE MOST SIMPLISTIC VERSION OF THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT.

I WOULD DEFER TO BRAD MITCHELL HERE THE ROOM THAT REPRESENTS THE COMMISSION AND HE CAN GET ADDITIONAL ADVICE ON THAT FROM ATTORNEY MAY JUST ASK FOR THE CLARIFICATION THE COMMENT THAT THIS WAS ALREADY IN MOTION BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE WAS THEY JUST HAD AN INAUGURAL MEETING NOW NOT THE TRAIN IS NOT THE STATION. YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT CAN'T REVERSED THAT IT'S TOO LATE TO GO BACK AND GET THEIR INPUTS IN ? THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE OBVIOUSLY TO MANY, MANY PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTY, ACROSS THE REGION, THROUGHOUT THE STATE IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO REVERSE ANYTHING BUT WE DID HAVE AN APPLICATION FILED FOR A MAP AMENDMENT TO REMOVE THE TO REMOVAL A CERTAIN PARCEL ABOUT 700 ACRES OF LAND FROM THE CULTURAL PRESERVATION OVERLAY IN ITS ENTIRETY SO THAT THE PROPERTY COULD BE DEVELOPED OUTSIDE OF THE CPO PROVISIONS. SO WHEN THAT CAME IN WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT ANNOUNCED TO DELAY THEIR APPLICATION TO ALLOW US TO TABLE THE APPLICATION SO THAT WE COULD FILE THIS TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WE WERE ALREADY CONSIDERING DOING AND CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE SO THAT WE COULD AGAIN GET RID OF THE LEGAL JEOPARDY INSIDE THE CURRENT LANGUAGE AND ALSO CARRY OUT A PROVISION THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD ENHANCE AND FURTHER IMPROVE THE CULTURAL OVERLAY SO MR. STEWART, I'M SURE THIS IS CONFUSING TO ALL OF US INCLUDING MYSELF AS COMMISSIONER. I WANT TO A PARAGRAPH HERE AND THE PURPOSE OF THE CPO IS THAT THE LONG TERM OF THE COUNTRY SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES FOUND ON ISLAND CPO ZONE ACKNOWLEDGES ST HELENS HISTORIC CULTURAL LANDSCAPE THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR CHEMICAL CONCENTRATION OF GULLAH CULTURE. I DON'T SEE THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IS DOING THAT. I THINK WE NEED TO BACK UP AND TAKE A BIGGER PICTURE AND I LOOK AT THIS THIS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE, OKAY? IT'S ON THE SCREEN AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN SEE IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS THE FINDING A LEGAL TECHNICALITY TO PLUG A HOLE IN THE IS THE WAY TO GO AND THAT'S HOW DO WE PROTECT IT.

SO I DON'T WANT I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING I HAVE THE FLOOR.

YEAH, I WANT YOUR YOU'RE YOU'RE TAKING THIS HOME WITH ME IN THE SOUTH THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO NO I BEG YOUR PARDON. SO I BEG YOUR PARDON SO WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON A TECHNICALITY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS EXPLAINING TO YOU ALL OUR CONCERNS WITH THE ORDINANCE NOW AGAIN YOU AS A MEMBER OF THE

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SO THAT'S ISSUE HERE. RIGHT. SO THE WE WILL WE ARE TRYING TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD AND EXPLAIN TO YOU ALL WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE AGAIN YOU ARE AS PLANNING COMMISSION AS I EXPLAINED TO IN MY OPENING STATEMENT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MODIFY RECOMMEND TO MODIFY THE TEXT LANGUAGE DENY THE TEXT LANGUAGE OR RECOMMEND APPROVED THE TEXT LANGUAGE THOSE YOUR THREE ELEMENTS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GET ANY MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GET A MOTION.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING BEYOND THAT. WE'RE DOING OUR JOB.

WE'RE PRESENTING THOSE TO YOU IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROCESS THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE COUNTY CODE AND STATE LAW. AND THEN WE'RE JUST YOU ALL TO DO YOUR JOB AND WE ALL NEED TO BE PROFESSIONAL AS WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT. I KNOW YOU CALL ME UNPROFESSIONAL I TAKE I TAKE A LOOK AT PLEASE THAT LITTLE MORE CIVILITY HERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO A POINT AGREEMENT ON AN ISSUE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO REACH AGREEMENT THAT'S OKAY.

BUT LET'S DO IT IN A WAY THAT BE RESPECTFUL. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. AS I UNDERSTAND IF A DEVELOPER WOULD FILE A LAWSUIT AND, WIN THAT LAWSUIT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY REMOVE THE ENTIRE CPO.

THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. SO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO PREVENT THAT BY THIS TEXT AMENDMENT, CORRECT? OKAY.

THAT CLARIFIES THINGS A LITTLE BIT. BUT THEN CAN I FOLLOW THE THE DIFFICULTIES TO ME IS THAT I MEAN LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE WORD ENHANCE WHICH ERIC USED LIKE NINE TIMES THAT'S ANOTHER WORD RIGHT. I DON'T THINK THAT ENHANCES WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. HOWEVER I DO THINK THAT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LAWSUIT THIS SOMETHING POINT OF VIEW I UNDERSTAND DIRECT THREAT TO THE COUNTY CORRECT? YES. THAT HAS NOT YET MATERIALIZED TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

CORRECT OKAY. SO I THINK THAT AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WE KIND OF DEAL WITH THE THREATS OF LAWSUITS AND YOU KNOW, BAD BEHAVIOR GOOD BEHAVIOR THE TIME I THINK IN MY OPINION THE IDEA THAT THE CPO COULD BE ELIMINATED SURE IT'S OUT THERE BUT YOU KNOW THERE ARE LOTS THINGS AND PLANNING WHICH WE MUST DO TO KEEP PROCEEDING YOU AND MY COLLEAGUES THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. THIS IS WHY WE DO THAT.

WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS. SO I THINK THAT IS WELL, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT OF VIEW AND I WANT TO BE CIVIL. I SIMPLY DON'T THINK IT'S THE THREAT THAT YOU'VE SEEN.

I THINK IT AND I AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT SPEAKING FOR YOU LIVE ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND. I HAPPEN TO BE YOU KNOW, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM SAINT HELENA ON THIS PLANNING COMMISSION. I MYSELF DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU AND I SORT OF WANT THAT THE RECORD AND I THINK LOTS OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND BUT YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB AND I APPRECIATE YOU UNDERSTANDING WHAT MY POINT OF VIEW THAT IS. MY JOB IS TO PREVENT LEGAL ACTION AND TO PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF THE COUNTY AND ITS CITIZENS. SO BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE THAT'S WHY THIS SYSTEM HAS BEEN SET UP SO THAT EVERYBODY DOES HAVE AN OPINION AND IT CAN BE VOTED ON EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM. YES, I CAN READ THE TEXT IN ITS ENTIRETY IF YOU LIKE YOUR YES PLEASE DO SO CAN EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM HEAR ME? YES. THE HIGHLIGHTED TEXT SAYS THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC USES ARE DEEMED TO BE INCOMPLETE ALL OF THE CPO ZONE AND THEREFORE ARE PROHIBITED UNLESS ONE THE PARCEL CONTAINS 50 ACRES OF LAND AND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ENTERED INTO WITH COUNTY THAT IMPOSES AND IMPLEMENTS CRITERIA I.E. ADDITIONAL BUFFERS, DENSITY REDUCTIONS, ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE LOCATIONS, DOCKS, SPACE LIMITATIONS, INFRASTRUCTURE

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THANK YOU YOU ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I'M I READ IT SEVERAL TIMES AND HERE'S WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH. I ACTUALLY THINK THAT IF I TOOK THAT YELLOW PIECE OUT I ACTUALLY THINK THE LANGUAGE IS PRETTY GOOD PRETTY CLEAR IT SAYS THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC USES ARE DEEMED TO BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SEO ZONE WHICH WE'VE ALREADY DEFINE WHAT THE THE ZONE IS WE DEFINE THE PURPOSE BOUNDARIES ETC. THAT'S VERY CLEAR.

OKAY SO WE CALL IT AND THEREFORE ARE PROHIBITED AND THEN IT GOES ON SAY RESTRICTED ACCESS COMMUNITIES RESORT THIS ONE IS AGAIN THE WAY WE'VE WRITTEN BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THIS ONE HERE THEY WILL IN WHAT YOU COULD DO IN THE TWO THEY KIND OF WROTE IN WHAT YOU CAN'T DO. OKAY BUT EITHER WAY I THINK IF I READ SECTION D OF THIS MINUS THE YELLOW RIGHT I'M OKAY WITH IT. I'M FINE.

AND AGAIN I'M NOT THE LAWYER OKAY YOU'RE YOU'RE THE LAWYER BUT I'M OKAY WITH IT AS THE COMMISSION MEMBER I THINK THAT LANGUAGE IS GOOD ENOUGH TO PROTECT US.

OKAY. AGAIN, I WANT TO BE CLEAR MY POSITION HERE IS NOT TO CONVINCE YOU OTHERWISE IT'S HERE TO BE USEFUL SO I WILL DEFER TO THE SYSTEM WE PUT IN PLACE FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR VOTE AND EXPRESS THAT OPINION. YES WE JUST SAY NO GOLF COURSES THAT AS ERIC AS AS A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO HAD STATED THERE'S A PROCESS HERE WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE FACTS I'M HERE TO TELL YOU MY OPINION AND WHETHER YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO STATE WHETHER YOU WANT CHANGES BE MADE OR WHETHER YOU AGREE IN ITS ENTIRETY OR NOT. THIS IS THE PROCESS YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF AS SITTING MEMBERS THIS COMMISSION. SO I JUST AGAIN IN MY OWN OPINION I JUST BELIEVE WE CAN WIN WITH THE SINGLE MATTER IN THIS STATE. WE BASICALLY OPEN UP THE WHOLE FOR THE WHOLE I'M WHAT I SAID YOU KNOW ME PERSONALLY I'M OKAY WITH WITH THIS LINE I THINK IT PROTECTS US ENOUGH I THINK IT SADDENS FLIES THE PURPOSE OF WHAT YOU KNOW THIS CALL CULTURAL PROTECTION ALL I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHO CREATED THIS ZONE SOMEBODY SOMEBODY VOTED ON IT SOMEBODY APPROVED IT SOMEBODY THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY GOOD IDEA.

I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH THAT TOO BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM WITH I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU ABOUT WHY YOU DON'T THINK THIS IS COVERED YOUR LAWYER I'M NOT NONE OF US ARE I DON'T THINK I'M SURE. WHY DON'T YOU THINK THAT THAT THAT IT COVERS ANY ADVERSE USES IN OTHER WORDS THIS GENTLEMAN'S POINT THAT HE THINKS OUR CURRENT LANGUAGE IS ACCEPTABLE. WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S SO THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION BUT STOP ME IF I MISINTERPRET IT AND REVIEWING IT AGAIN WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT WHAT IT IS IT'S RESTRICTING HOW IT'S RESTRICTING IT THE LANGUAGE IS BEING USED AND WHETHER THERE IS A DIRECT OR A NEXUS TO THE PURPOSE OF EPA. I'M NOT SURE HOW ELSE TO SAY THAT THERE MR. GREEN MAY EXPLAIN IT PRETTY WELL AS FAR AS A NEXUS BETWEEN WHAT IS RESTRICTING THESE SO WHAT ABOUT THE THE BASIC QUESTION THAT YOU AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER AND WE AS PLANNERS TO ASK OURSELVES IS WHAT ABOUT A GATED COMMUNITY HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT OR COULD

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NINE HOLES HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE CULTURE OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND BUT EIGHT HOLES DOES NOT. WHETHER IT'S PAR OR REGULATION OR WHATEVER.

SO THAT'S PROBLEMATIC JUST BASED ON THAT VERY BASE AND THEN ADDITION OF THAT THESE ARE ONLY THREE PROHIBITED USES. THERE'S TONS OF OTHER USES OUT THERE.

LAND USE IS OUT THERE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE CULTURE OF AN ISLAND YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICTS THAT AREN'T LISTED IN THIS ORDINANCE AND THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE THAT REGULATE THOSE REGULATING THREE SPECIFIC USES COVERS YOU KNOW SOMEWHERE AROUND 6064 SQUARE MILES OF THE ISLAND THAT'S ALL THAT IS A VERY BROAD AREA TO SAY IN EVERY PLACE ON THAT 64 SQUARE MILES THAT GATED COMMUNITY, A RESORT OR GOLF COURSE WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE ON ALL 64 SQUARE MILES OF THE ISLAND AND THAT'S THAT'S THE BROADNESS OF THE QUESTION THAT HAS US SOME CONCERNS BUT AGAIN WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE CONCERN YOU ARE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE EVERY RIGHT AGAIN TO MODIFY THE AMENDMENT ON A RECOMMENDATION AND REVIEW IT OR RECOMMEND THAT IT BE DENIED.

I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO TABLE IT BECAUSE THINK PROBABLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IF IT IS TABLED IN WORKING WITH THE CPO COMMITTEE THAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROBABLY FOR PALM ISLAND WOULD PROBABLY SAY WE WANT TO GO FORWARD OUR REQUEST FROM THEM AND THAT'S NOT A THREAT THAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT OCCURRING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I HAVE SOME FEELING THAT WHAT YOU ALL WOULD DO THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS GOING TO DO WITH EITHER ONE OF THOSE SO THE STAFF'S THINKING WAS IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR US TO PRESERVE THE AREA OF THE CPO AND OFFER SOME MODIFICATIONS TO IT TO BASICALLY TIGHTEN UP THE LANGUAGE AND TO TAILOR IT SPECIFICALLY TO THE USES TO ALLOW THESE THINGS AND PROVISIONS FOR SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION WITH THE AGREEMENT AS OPPOSED TO JUST BEING BROADLY PROHIBITED EVERYWHERE FOR SUCH A LARGE AREA ACROSS THE BOARD.

YOUR GUYS LOCATION. ALL RIGHT. SO MORE QUESTIONS AND MAKE SURE YOU GET TO THE PUBLIC. OH YEAH. TWO QUICK QUESTIONS I JUST CHECKED MY PHONE AT 653. IT'S SO INTERESTING TO ME NEVER HAVE I HEARD THE WORD GULLAH CULTURE IN THIS DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A PARKING LOT. I'M OKAY. I MEAN YOU ALL I KNOW YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB, BUT YOU HAVE NOT TAKEN IN THE DIMENSIONS CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY PART ONE. OH, ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. NUMBER TWO IS THAT FOR YEARS I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE 1980S SO THIS IS MY SECOND TIME AT THIS RODEO.

AND THE POINT IS BESIDES THE THREATS BEING SUED GOT I'VE BEEN THERE DONE THAT THE THE POINT IS EVERY SINGLE WHO COMES BEFORE US WANTS TO GET THE COUNTY OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS LIKE YOU KNOW THE COUNTY IS IMPOSSIBLE THIS THAT AND THE OTHER YOU PROPOSING A SERIES OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OR NOT? YES THAT'S WHAT THE YELLOW

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BUT THE ENTIRE LEED THAT IS IT'S ENTIRELY TRANSFORMED BY WHAT THE COUNTY IS ASKING IS THAT ALL OF THESE IS CPO IS ELIMINATED IN ITS PLACE WILL BECOME A SERIES OF TRANSACTIONAL RELATIONSHIPS NO THAT IS NOT POLICY. I WANT TO BE CLEAR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PREVENT THE SEED HERE FROM BEING REMOVED AND.

THEREFORE KNOW YOU WANT TO BE FAIR. NO MA'AM.

NOT NOT AT ALL. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PREVENT FROM HAPPENING.

RIGHT. I THINK WE WE WILL MOVE FORWARD ON GETTING INTO A DEBATE AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WE LIKE TO TALK. SO LISTEN, I UNDERSTAND I'M SURE IT WILL COME UP AGAIN.

I'M SURE WE'LL LEARN VERY SOON. CHAIRMAN, AS I MAY I CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

YOU JUST MADE A PRETTY SUPPORTIVE STATEMENT WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING HERE.

YOU SAID THAT WHEN DEVELOPERS COME IN FRONT OF YOU THEY DON'T LIKE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BECAUSE. THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THEY'RE REGULATING AND MAKING THEM DO ALL THESE THINGS. THAT IS WHAT YOU SAID CORRECT AROUND THAT.

THAT'S BEEN MY OKAY. THAT'S EXACTLY THE REASON WE WANT TO PUT THIS LANGUAGE IN THIS LANGUAGE IS TO HELP HAVE THIS TYPE OF PUBLIC FORUM AND ALLOW FOR THE CPO TO BE ENHANCED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THE POINT THAT THEY'RE FORCING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THAT EXACT REASON. SO THERE IS PUBLIC COME BACK AND THAT WE ARE ENFORCING AND I JUST WANT TO I'M GOING TO DISAGREE ON THIS ONE THAT'S FINE SORRY I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS UNDER RESOURCED PEOPLE TURN OVER ALL THE TIME. IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN GUY AND LESLIE. HE'S I UNDERSTAND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN BUT I THINK WE WANT TO KEEP THEM MOVING FORWARD. I THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I THINK WE'RE ABOUT TO FIND OUT THE VALUE OF THE CULTURE, HISTORY AND ENVIRONMENTAL SIGNIFICANCE OF SAINT HELENA. I WANT TO SPEAK I'VE GOT ABOUT I'VE GOT 60 OF THESE HERE SO THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR PROBABLY ANOTHER 3 HOURS. I WOULD OFFER THIS EVERYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK CAN SPEAK.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PART OF WHAT YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE, WE WOULD SAY WE CAN TAKE A SHOW OF HANDS. EVERYBODY BELIEVES THAT OR DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MOVE THIS. WE GET AS MANY PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK BUT WHO WANT TO MAKE IT SUCH THAT PEOPLE DON'T WALK OUT OF THE ROOM EARLY BECAUSE WE GET TIRED OR YOU'VE GOT TO GO HOME. AND THEN THE MOMENT AS I SAID THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THIS REVIEW PROCESS THAT WILL GO FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR A DETERMINATION AND MORE INFORMATION THAN THAT CAN BE FOUND ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE. I'M GOING TO CALL THE NAMES AND AGAIN I WOULD SAY PLEASE DO DO IT YOURSELF AND YOU COME TO THE MIKE FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD AND YOU'LL BE ALLOWED 3 MINUTES. I HAVE A MODERATOR WILL BE HERE IS GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE DING AND THAT'S NOT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL KEEP MOVING FORWARD OTHERWISE WE'LL BE HERE MIDNIGHT AND THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. ALL RIGHT CAN WE BEGIN AND I PLEASE PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL AS YOU CAN. WE WANT TO HAVE A DIALOG, NOT AN ARGUMENT BY THE FIRST SPEAKER THAT THAT'S ALL THAT'S UP TO YOU.

OKAY. MY FIRST SPEAKERS GREGOIRE PLEASE BRING ME A COMMISSION IS THE COUNTY I THE QUEEN. WELL, QUITE A GOOD WINE ADVOCATE.

HAPPY NEW YEAR COMMISSIONERS. IF THE COUNTY GOT A BIG FAMILY AND A QUEEN YOU QUIT IT ON THE BODY TO TELL EACH NATION ADDRESS POST OFFICE BOX 1207 SAINT HELENA ISLAND SOUTH CAROLINA 2992 WILL GO ON GEECHEE NATION THIS EVENING A VERY FOR ME GET TO WAY TO FINISH UP ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE IN A COMMUNITY IN THE VINEYARD ONE NO AND NOW I

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I ALSO GOT A PHONE CALL FROM OUR REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL RIVERS IN OPPOSION TO TAX CHANGES MAP CHANGES AND REMOVAL OF ANY AREA FROM OUR CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT.

I ALSO HAVE A LETTER HERE FROM GOVERNOR MCMASTER TO THAT EFFECT I ALSO HAVE A LETTER HERE FROM CHIP KEMPSON WHO WAS ALSO OUR REPRESENTATIVE TO THAT EFFECT.

BUT I'M GOING TO SPEND MORE TIME RIGHT NOW JUST CLARIFYING SOME THINGS.

I SERVED AS THE INAUGURAL CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT CHAIRPERSON FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OF MY LIFE I SPENT FIVE YEARS ALSO AS A COUPLE AS THE CITY DISTRICT CHAIRPERSON SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES ZONING IS LAW IGNORANCE OF THE LAW, NO DEFENSE. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO ARGUE A CASE ABOUT THE LAW THEN YOU SHOULD KNOW THE INITIAL INTENT OF THE LAW.

I WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT.

I'M OF THE LAST LIVING MEMBERS THAT ACTUALLY WAS PART OF A LARGE OF US THAT CAME BEFORE COUNTY COUNCIL AND GOT INITIATED IN THE 1990S AND WE WERE TOLD THEN THAT IF THE COUNTY INITIATED THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT COUNTY BE SUED WE SAID BRING IT ON. SO HERE I AM AGAIN STANDING ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SPOT ALL OF THIS TIME LATER HEARING THE SAME THINGS AND NO ONE THEN SAYING TO ME WHO HAS NOW BEEN PLACED ON THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT AGAIN WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT? IT WAS STATED THAT THINGS WERE STATED TO US IN DECEMBER THAT WHENEVER IT WAS STATED THAT WE WERE HANDED WHATEVER THAT WAS ON THAT AND WHAT I WAS LOOKING OVER HER SHOULDER READING WE WERE NOT HANDED ANY SUCH THING. SO I WANT TO SPEND THIS TIME TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD THAT IF YOU WOULD BE DISINGENUOUS AS YOU ALL SEE IN YOUR LANGUAGE AS WE WOULD HAVE WANTED A STORY AND SEEN LIKE THAT HOW CAN WE TRUST YOU? IT'S ABOUT BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS MY CULTURE BUILT FOR THEM WAS ALL THIS LAW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUT.

WE STOOD UP LONG ENOUGH TO SAY THERE SHOULD BE A LAW THAT PROTECTS THE EPICENTER OF GULLAH GEECHEE CULTURE AND IT'S NOT JUST THE EPICENTER FOR THE COUNTY.

IT IS THE EPICENTER FOR THE ENTIRE GULF NATION OF WHICH I AM THE HEAD STATE MY PEOPLE ELECTED ME TO SPEAK ABOUT AND FOR THEM AROUND THE WORLD FROM JACKSONVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA TO JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA I CAME BACK FROM THE UNITED NATIONS COUNCIL OF EVENTS BEING ABLE TO TELL THEM THE UNITED STATES AND ALL THE OTHER WORLD LEADERS LIKE MYSELF THAT WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT LOSS AND BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE CULTURE IS NO LOSS IT NEEDS NO DAMAGE BECAUSE.

WE ALLOW ON THE CHILDREN FOR DAMAGE TO BE LIKE THAT AND WE LOSE WILL WE BE? AND SO I COULD NOT BELIEVE THAT I WAS BEING EMAILED TO EVEN DISCUSS THAT THERE WOULD BE A NEGATIVE TO THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT LAST SECTION THAT WAS READ BY THIS GENTLEMAN ABOUT IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GOLF I CAN TELL YOU WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE CPO ORIGINALLY THERE IT SAID NO GOLF COURSES IT PERIOD THERE WAS NO DEFINITION OF A GOLF COURSE IN IT. THERE ALSO WAS NOT THE WORD ECO TOURISM IT AND I BROUGHT THAT UP AFTER THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT MEETING THAT WAS ONLY A GATHERING TO ASK US IF WE WOULD SERVE. WE DID NOT BUSINESS WE DID NOT ELECT A CHAIR, A VICE CHAIR OR ANYTHING. WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE EVEN HAD A QUORUM FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS BECAUSE I'M SITTING HERE AS SOMEONE WHO WAS THERE THAT COULD BE CLEAR ON THE MATTER THAT ALL WEREN'T CLEAR ABOUT AND TO SAY TO YOU THAT ON OF THE GULF NATION THE SEA ISLAND COALITION, THE GULF FISHING ASSOCIATION AND THE PARTIES THAT ENTRUSTED IN ME THEY ALLOWED US TO BRING TO YOU TONIGHT ALONG WITH THE 5222 SIGNATURES ON HIS PETITIONS THAT ARE GOING TO ENTER INTO THE RECORDS THAT WE DO NOT WANT DOING ANY MATH CHANGES, TAX AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR ST HELENA ISLAND. WE WANT THAT TO BE LEFT TO THOSE WHO COUNTY COUNCIL HAS ASSIGNED DO THEIR JOB WHICH IS THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY

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PLEASE TRY TO ABIDE BY THE 3 MINUTES. I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO YOU BUT I ALSO WANT TO GET EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND I DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE OPPORTUNITY. I HAVE A MR. JOE STRIKE THE NEXT SPEAKER IF YOU DO IT WITH YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND. I WISH TO SPEAK JUST RAISE YOUR HAND SAY SO IS JOEY OR JOE JOEY ALL RIGHT. MY REAL NAME IS JOSEPHINE. I GO BY JOEY.

I LIVE AT 23 COFFIN BLUFF ROAD ON SAINT HILL ISLAND AND I AM OPPOSED TO A RESORT, A GATED COMMUNITY AND A GOLF BEING BUILT IN SAINT HELENA VILLE AND PINE ISLAND.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO OUR TIDAL CREEKS, MORGAN RIVER AND MARSHLANDS AND THE CRABBING, THE SHRIMPING AND THE FISH IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE PROTECTION THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY THANK YOU THANK THANK YOU. LILI HARRIS GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS HARRIS. I RESIDE MY PARK, MY ADDRESS IS P.O. BOX 1643.

WE NEED THAT LAB 1543 ST HELENA ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA AND I HAVE MY COMMENTS WERE IN REGARDS TO PINE ISLAND AND ST HELENA VILLE BUT THE WHOLE SUBJECT CHANGED THIS EVENING.

SO WHAT I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY OR ANYTHING BUT THAT YELLOW PORTION THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IT SEEMED TO ME THAT IT WAS IN FAVOR OF THESE DEVELOPERS.

THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. THANK YOU, ERNIE. RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN. FIRST I WANT TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, PETITION THAT STATES TELL BEAUFORT COUNTY TO DENY GOLF COURSE AND RESORT AUCTIONS AND IT HAS 35 FIT 612.

THANK YOU. WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER 3530 3005 3256.

THANK YOU. I'LL TRY TO MAKE MY BRIEF. SIR, MY NAME IS BERNIE.

RIGHT. I'M REPRESENTING PEN CENTER. I'M THE EXECUTIVE THEIR PRESIDENT. WE HAD 16 POINTS IN A THIN CIRCLE WEST OF THE IN RHODE THEN ELENA IS A VERY UNIQUE DISTINGUISHED PLACE. IT IS WHERE 55 PLANTATIONS WERE WHERE 10,000 ENSLAVED AFRICANS WORKED PRODUCE RICE, COTTON AND INDIGO.

THAT'S IN THE 1800S RATHER THAN THESE 10,000 ENSLAVED PEOPLE WERE FREED BEFORE INTEGRATION PROCLAMATION AND THEN THE LOAN THERE WERE ESTABLISHED THE PEN SCHOOL STARTED APRIL 1862.

THE NEXT WE HAD ROLAND SPEARMAN RIGHT AROUND THE SAME VERY HISTORIC AND THEN FROM AND AFTER THAT WE HAD LITERALLY EVACUATED BEFORE THE ROYAL EXPERIMENT WE HAD THOUSAND ENSLAVED PEOPLE BEING FREED PRIOR TO EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION AND THEN WE HAD THE FULL EXPERIMENT AND SO ON. NO TODAY AND RIGHT NOW WE ENCOUNTER AT PENN CENTER HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE COMING IN FROM ALL OVER OUR NATION BUT THEY ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE AT PENN CENTER, ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE THAT ALAN AND HE COME HERE TO SEE HOW WE FOR PRESERVING AND THE PRESERVATION OF THIS HISTORY IS TAKING PLACE .

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I HAVE JANET MACAULAY MANY PASSIONATE THANK YOU. STEPHEN MURRAY.

STEPHEN MURRAY EMMA MURRAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FIRST OF ALL WISH YOU A HAPPY NEW YEAR AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR VERY IMPORTANT SERVICE ON BEHALF OF COUNTY A VERY IMPORTANT.

I AM THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF AND FIRST I'LL SAY I BELIEVE COUNTY STAFF SPECIFICALLY COUNTY LEGAL IS VERY SINCERE ON THE LEGAL CONCERN THAT WE BEING PROPOSED OF THIS MAGNITUDE JUSTIFIES THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY SPENDING A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND BURNING THROUGH A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO CHALLENGE THE PROJECT.

AND SO THAT IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN AND I THINK THEY SHOULDN'T BE CHASTISED FOR OUT FOR TAXPAYER RESOURCE. THAT BEING SAID, I DISAGREE WITH THE MECHANISM THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PROTECT THE CPO AND USING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE VERY FIRST COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY OF YOUR EFFORTS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE WAS A UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT THAT WE WANTED TO PRESERVE ABOUT 65% APPROXIMATELY LAND AREA TO BE RURAL IN NORTHERN COUNTY VERY DIFFERENT FROM OUR NEIGHBORS SOUTH OF THE BROAD. IF YOU FAST FORWARD IN 2008 TO THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN WE REINFORCED THAT POSITION AND THAT WE HAD TO WORK DILIGENTLY TO ENCOURAGE INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN EXISTING URBAN AREAS WHILE WORKING TIRELESSLY TO REDUCE DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVE OUR RURAL GREENBELT. ST HELENA BEING ONE OF THE MOST REMARKABLE PARTS OF OUR RURAL GREENBELT. FAST FORWARD TO 2017 THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN AGAIN UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED BY COUNTY COUNCIL BY BEAUFORT CITY COUNCIL THAT CALLED FOR A IN DEVELOPMENT DENSITIES ACROSS THE SEA ISLANDS LADIES ISLAND SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT'S NO SURPRISE FOR ANYBODY WHO LIVES ON THE SEA ISLANDS ESPECIALLY IN THIS ISLAND THE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH TODAY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THESE LEGACY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE TREMENDOUSLY DIFFICULT FOR US TO MANAGE FOR US TO CONTROL.

AND SO GIVING FURTHER PERMISSION FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS TO BE CREATED THAT WILL I THINK TIE THE HANDS OF FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSIONS OF FUTURE COUNCILS A FUTURE STAFF IS NOT THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT MECHANISM. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE STANDING UP OF THE CPO COMMITTEE. I THINK STAFF HAS THE INTENTIONS AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE A DENIAL OF THIS REQUEST.

BUT A LOT OF THESE GREAT PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, A LOT OF THE PROFESSIONALS THAT WE HAVE GET AROUND THE TABLE FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN PROVIDE NOT ONLY PROTECTIONS FOR WHAT WE HAVE TODAY BUT HOW WE CAN PROVIDE GREATER PROTECTIONS. I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT THANKS TO THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT OF VOTERS WE NOW HAVE A $100 MILLION PLUS ANOTHER 50 MILLION RURAL CRITICAL AND I THINK THAT'S RIGHT PERSON 5515 WE HAVE $150 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO DO REAL CRITICAL PRESERVATION WORK WITH AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS MIGHT BE ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS THAT WE APPROACH THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITH TO SEE ABOUT HOW ARE YOU ABOUT HOW WE PRESERVE AND SO AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND VERY IMPORTANT WORK. HAPPY NEW YEAR. THANK MARY AND NOT SURE HOW TO PRONOUNCE IT. IT LOOKS LIKE JIM JOY AT LEAST EIGHT MORE SHOREBIRDS FIVE I COME HERE AND TALK ANYWAY I CAME HERE I'VE BEEN HERE 15 YEARS I AM AN ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCATE. I DO LOBBYING AS A VOLUNTEER FOR THE CITIZENS CLIMATE LOBBY WITH CONGRESS I END HERE BECAUSE OF THIS HISTORY THIS IS WHAT ATTRACTED ME IF WE LET IT GO IT'S GONE. IT'S NEVER COMING BACK. IT'S UNIQUE, IT'S UNUSUAL.

IT'S ECOLOGY AND CULTURALLY REALLY IMPORTANT. IF WE HONOR THESE THINGS WE ARE LOST. WE DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE OR, WHERE WE ARE ANY HIGH END

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LET'S TAKE CARE OF IT. YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT TAXPAYER MONEY.

THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THOUSANDS PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THIS AND I FOR ONE WOULD FORK MY SAVINGS TO HAVE A NICE LEGAL BATTLE AND TAKE A LONG TIME THANK YOU THANK THANK YOU AND THANKS TO ALL YOU THAT HAVE SPOKEN SO FAR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MR. MICHAEL BLAKE STEPHENSON AND MICHAEL LIKE STEPHENSON. HE'S LEFT A LOT RIGHT? I PROBABLY AM WRONG BUT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW AZUMAH THOMAS GOES OUT WITH AND I USE THE QUEEN I WAS RIGHT PRONUNCIATION YEAH YEAH IT'S I THINK TITLE PHARRELL HELLO.

HOW ARE YOU? SO I'M NOT USED TO THIS FOR EVERYBODY SITTING HERE SO I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. MY NAME'S TALIAFERRO.

I'M AT 112 K STREET BEAUFORT SOUTH 29902I OWN ABOUT 20 ACRES ON THE MAIN ROAD THAT THEY WANT TO DEVELOP OFF TOM FRIPP ROAD AND I JUST YOU KNOW I'M FROM ST FRIPP POINT ROAD AND SO I GREW UP YES MA'AM THANK YOU. SO I GREW UP KAYAKING ACROSS PINE AT SOME OF THE MOST PRISTINE WATERWAYS THAT YOU CAN EVER SEE ACROSS PINE ISLAND YOU SEE MORGAN ISLAND WHICH CONTAINS 5000 TREES, MONKEYS IT YOU HAVE JUST ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS RESOURCES.

MY MAIN CONCERN THAT I'VE SEEN TODAY AND I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN YESTERDAY WAS JUST THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION, THE FACT THE COUNTY AND THIS DEVELOPER HAS BEEN DOING THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES IS JUST APPALLING TO ME. I'M IN THE I'M IN THE INSURANCE AND I TALK TO PEOPLE WHETHER IT BE FROM THE FUSTY HILTON HEAD OF BLUFFTON OKATIE I TALKED TO ABOUT 50 PEOPLE A DAY AND WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY I TALKED EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT I TALKED TO IN THE PHONE OR THAT CAME INTO MY OFFICE HAD A COUNTY COUNCIL THAT ACTUALLY COME TO MY OFFICE RANDOMLY AND ASKED ABOUT IT. NOT ONE PERSON IN THE LAST TWO DAYS 100 PEOPLE WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS SO I DON'T KNOW Y'ALL'S ROLE IN THIS I DON'T KNOW HIS ROLE IN THIS BUT I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT THE YOUNGER GENERATION IN COUNTY DOES NOT WANT AND WHAT MR. THE MAYOR WHO'S OUR MAYOR I'M SORRY SUN LIKE I SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON. I'VE GOT YOUNG KIDS BUSY AFTER THEY ASK ME MY WIFE ARE GOING TO GO PUT THEM TO BED SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WORKING WITH ME BUT I THINK THAT TURNING THAT TO A STATE PARK OR A COUNTY PARK IS THE MOST INGENIOUS THING THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY DO. I WILL CALL COLOMBIA TOMORROW BECAUSE COMPANY I WORK FOR IS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN COLOMBIA AND TALKED TO PEOPLE IN COLOMBIA ARE IMPORTANT ROLES THERE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO LISTEN BUT I GUESS I GOT A MINUTE SO THIS IS ALL NEW.

LIKE I SAID THIS IS ALL DIFFERENT BUT I JUST I WANT TO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL. I KNOW THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT, MS..

QUEEN. YOU ARE THAT'S AMAZING. THAT WAS AWESOME.

AND AND I KNOW YOU GOT TOUGH JOB TOO, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS EVERYBODY THAT THE YOUNGER GENERATION IN COUNTY NOT JUST SAINT HELENA COUNTY DOESN'T WANT IT BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IN 30 YEARS WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS. SO THANK YOU AND I GOT TO GET TO BED NOW SO EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU.

AND ACTUALLY GOOD CAMP SO YOU SHOULD COME COMES I'LL TRY NOT TO GET EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS.

PAM BAXTER 12 RED TEMPLE ROAD I RAISED MY CHILDREN ON SAINT HELENA ON 20 ACRES.

MY CHILDREN GREW UP WITH THEIR AUNTS AND UNCLES VILLAGE CREEK AND ON PINE ISLAND FISHING

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I PUT UP CORN, I PUT UP OKRA, I PUT UP COLLARDS SQUASH ALL KINDS OF VEGETABLES.

MR. MAJOR'S ACROSS THE STREET MR. BOLES DOWN THE ROAD ALL TAUGHT ME HOW TO DO THIS BEING A MILITARY BRAT IN HEAVEN. I BOUGHT MY LAND WHEN I WAS 19 YEARS OLD.

I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF MY CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN MAKE THAT TRIP OUT TO FAMILY THAT STILL LIVES THERE. MY AND NEPHEWS WE COULD WALK DOWN THE ROAD THE ALAMO ROAD WE'D GO DOWN SEE OUR NEIGHBORS . WE CROSS THE STREETS ON THAT POINT WE CANNOT LOSE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT WHETHER IT'S 300 HOUSES OR 500 HOUSES THERE'S DOGS OUT THERE THEY'RE GOING TO POISON THE CREEKS. YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

WE'VE GOT NOT ALL GREAT WE'VE GOT RIP DOGS. WE WE HAVE WE SEE THE PURPOSE 30 SOME YEARS AGO RECOGNIZE THAT DO THE HARPER AND THE HANDLERS WHO CURRENTLY OWN THAT PROPERTY AT PINE ISLAND WHERE MANY SUMMERS DAYS OUT THERE DO THEY OBJECT TO BEING IN THIS CITY OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT? BECAUSE I LIKE I SAID, I'M GETTING NERVOUS CDO. THEY DIDN'T OBJECT WHEN THAT 700 ACRES WAS PUT IN AND I PROMISE YOU VERY SMART, VERY WONDERFUL PEOPLE BOUGHT MY FIRST TEN ACRES FROM THEM SO I IF THEY WITHDRAW THAT IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO WITHDRAW THAT 700 OR WHATEVER ACRES IT IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THAT AREA, THEIR FRIENDS WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO DO THE WATER AND SEWER LINES BECAUSE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAP INTO THE AQUIFER NO MORE BUT DO NEED TO LISTEN TO THE COUNTY. Y'ALL NEED TO WORK SOMETHING OUT BECAUSE I DO KNOW FOR A FACT IF WE DON'T PLUG HOLES NO GOLF COURSES WE WILL HAVE A LAWSUIT ON OUR HANDS AND I'VE SEEN IT DONE ON HILTON HEAD WHERE THEY HAVE KICKED THINGS TO THE SIDE HE'LL PAY A TRANSFER IN IN 24 2024 BECAUSE A LAWSUIT MORE IN COUNTY CHALLENGED WHY CANADIAN CAN'T WHY CAN THIS HAPPEN WE CAN'T THE SETTLEMENT OF THAT LAWSUIT HILTON HAD TO NO LONGER COLLECT A TRANSFER FEE STARTING IN 2024 FOR US TO IGNORE AND NOT WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS IS VERY FOOLISH BECAUSE I WANT TO PROTECT IT.

THE HISTORY, MY CHILDREN'S HISTORY AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED HERE PRIOR TO US, THEIR FAMILIES, THE CLEAN THESE PROPERTIES, THE TAXES WILL GO UP MATTER WHAT THEY TELL YOU THEY WON'T AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE TAXED OUT OF THEIR HOMES.

THEY'LL BE TAXED AND LOSE IT ON TAX SALES HEIRS PROPERTIES GONE IN THAT AREA GO CHECK IT.

TAKE A LOOK OF WHO OWNS THIS PROPERTY SURROUNDING IT I GO EXCLUSION ROADS SUZANNE ROADS AND IT'S NOT HERE THAT'S ALL RIGHT. TURN THEM LEMONS LEMONS TO TAKE THIS HERE HE COMES. GOOD. GOOD EVENING.

I'M TED MCMANUS. I LIVE ON FOUR POINT ROAD AND I LOOK OUT AT PINE ISLAND AND ALL THE SAME HOW THE MILL ROAD GOING TO IT 1975 I GOT A MOTORCYCLE AND DROVE DOWN LOOKING FOR A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE THAN THE COLD UPSTATE NEW YORK WHERE I WAS AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING I WENT VIRGINIA NORTH CAROLINA. UPPER SOUTH CAROLINA, MYRTLE BEACH WAHOO. I COULDN'T FIND ANY PLACE I'D WANTED TO BE WORTH TO LIVE IN UNTIL I GOT THE SINGLE AN ISLAND AND I WENT HOME AND GOT MY WIFE AND WE MOVED ON TO THREE ACRES ON VILLAGE CREEK AND WE LIVED IN A LITTLE TRAILER FOR A LONG TIME FINALLY BUILT A HOUSE AND I I'M A COME HERE TO I'M 47 YEARS HERE BUT IT'S SPECIAL PLACE AND SOMEONE

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THANK YOU. KIP SPEARS. CHIP SPEARS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, CHIP. ROSE WALKER.

YES. ROBERT KNEW GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND SERVING ON COMMISSIONS. NOT A LOT OF FUN AND AFTER TONIGHT PROBABLY LESS FUN.

I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO VOTE NO. IT'S CRITICAL YOU PAY WELL.

NO BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING IS IF YOU VOTE YES YOU'RE OPENING THE DOOR TO THE DEVELOPER.

I MEAN THAT'S THE LANGUAGE IT'S THE PLAIN LANGUAGE. HE'S GOT MORE THAN 50 ACRES.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING? EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT PINE ISLAND IS DEVELOPED.

IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE END. EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M CONFUSED AND CHARLIE COME DOWN FROM YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER COME DOWN FROM BOSTON. HE THREATENS A LAWSUIT AND EVERYBODY THINKS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LAWSUIT ANYWAY. THERE'S ALWAYS LAWSUITS.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING? HONESTLY, TRULY. NO IN YOUR HEARTS THAT YOU GOT TO BLOCK IT? DON'T GIVE HIM AN OPENING TO DEVELOP IT WITH THE ARGUMENT THEN OH THE LANGUAGE IS BIG AND WE'RE SCARED AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SHIVERING.

OUR FEET DON'T DO IT PLEASE VOTE NO THANK YOU. THANKS DARYL ORANGE GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. DARYL IT'S P.O. BOX 134 THINGS ON THE ISLAND. I GREW UP OVER THERE THERE MOST OF MY LIFE.

I DO WANT TO THAT THE COUNTY RECONSTITUTED RECENTLY THE DISTRICT COMMITTEE I WAS SELECTED TO BE A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE AS QUEEN STATED WE DID NOT GET INTRODUCED TO THIS TAX AMENDMENT. IT WAS NOT INTRODUCED AT ALL AT THAT MEETING.

IT WAS REALLY LIKE YOU SAID AN INTRODUCTORY MEETING BUT MOST THE MORE SO I WANT TALK ABOUT PROCESS IF IN FACT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT OR IF WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY MAKE ANY CHANGES AT ALL THAT DISTRICT COMMITTEE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN HERE BEFORE IT HAS NOTHING TO INCLUDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW JUST NOTE THAT EVENING MR. CHAIRMAN NEWTON CHAIRMAN OF THE SEA ISLAND COALITION YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE WHOLE GOAL OF THE CPA WAS TO PROTECT LAND ON SAINT HELENA. THAT'S THE STARTING PLACE BUT CONFUSION REIGNS. WE'VE HEARD QUOTES AT LEAST FROM COUNTY OFFICIALS SAYING THIS AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE'VE HEARD WE SEE NOW A TEXT AMENDMENT WHICH APPEARS TO OPEN THE DOOR. SO WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON HERE ? THERE'S A TIMING ISSUE WHICH I THINK HAS CREATED A LEVEL OF DISTRUST AND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AND THINK THE REASON THIS ROOM IS FULL IS BECAUSE OF THAT IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S THERE ARE EASY EASIER SOLUTIONS THE TEXT AMENDMENT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN WHAT'S WRONG WITH GOLF OF ANY KIND WE DON'T HAVE TO SPECIFY EIGHT HOLES OR THREE HOLES OR 18 HOLES AND I SAY THAT AS A GOLFER, BY THE WAY, THE TIMING RAISES CONCERNS AND I THINK THE MOST CONCERNING THING ABOUT THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS THE TO DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WHEN SET UP A SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES FOR THE NEGOTIATION OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT YOU'VE GIVEN UP THE GHOST ABOUT WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE ANY DEVELOPMENT ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS HOW IT BE DONE. YOU'VE ALREADY LOST THE BATTLE AND I THINK REQUIRING OF A

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I'M A NATIVE OF MOUNT PLEASANT AND SO I KNOW FIRSTHAND HOW SPRAWLING DEVELOPMENT CAN IMPACT THE RURAL LANDSCAPE AND HOW IT THREATENS OUR GOAL OF COMMUNITY PRESERVATION.

I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS TONIGHT THE CONSERVATION LEAGUE HAS WORKED WITH THE PEN CENTER AND THE SAINT HELENA COMMUNITY SINCE THE 1990S.

WE HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED COMMUNITY LED EFFORTS TO CONSERVE THE LAND AND TO PROTECT THE PRECIOUS CULTURE. THIS SPECIAL PLACE THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY IS EMBODIMENT OF THIS COMMITMENT WE URGE YOU TO REJECT CHANGES TO THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY THAT WOULD ALLOW A GOLF ON PINE ISLAND AND SAINT HELENA.

THOUGH PINE ISLAND IS A FORESTED 498 ACRE PROPERTY WITH HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURES AND HIGH ARCHEOLOGICAL VALUE, IT LOCATED WITHIN THE HEART OF THE ECOLOGY HERITAGE CORRIDOR. UNDER CURRENT LAW THE PROPOSED GOLF COURSE AND RESORT IS NOT AN ALLOWABLE USE OF THIS LAND. THE PROPOSED EXEMPTION AMENDMENT WOULD CANCEL THE OVERLAYS ON LARGE TRACTS OF LAND IN ORDER TO PROTECT THESE CULTURAL ASSETS AND PRESERVE THE GOLF COMMUNITY. THE OVERLAY SHOULD NOT BE WEAKENED WITH EXCEPTIONS.

IN FACT, LAST YEAR THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDED STRENGTHENING OVERLAY TO PRESERVE THE COMMUNITY. THE PROPOSED REVISION IS JUST A TEXT AMENDMENT.

THIS EXCEPTION WOULD DRIVE A DAGGER STRAIGHT INTO THE HEART OF THE CULTURE THE OVERLAY WAS DESIGNED TO PROTECT OPENING SAINT HELENA UP TO ON THIS AND EVERY OTHER 50 ACRE TRACT WOULD EXPOSE MORE THAN 5400 ACRES OF LAND TO GENTRIFYING RESORTS, GATED COMMUNITIES AND GOLF COURSE DEVELOPMENT. THIS WOULD MEAN LESS OPEN SPACE INCREASING INFRASTRUCTURE DEMANDS AND HIGHER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY FOR THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF SAINT HELENA.

THIS IS THE NEXUS OF THE COUPLE HOLDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAXES AS OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL USES THAT MAY BE PERMITTED. THAT IS YOUR NEXUS TO SAINT HELENA COMMUNITY MADE A MADE A COMMITMENT AND AN INFORMED CHOICE TO REJECT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT 20 YEARS AGO AND THEY HAVE NOT CHANGED THEIR MINDS LOOK AROUND THE ROOM TONIGHT, READ THE LETTERS AND COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. LOOK THROUGH THE THOUSANDS OF SIGNATURES ON A PETITION WE URGE YOU TO DO RIGHT THING AND REJECT THIS LANGUAGE THAT WOULD DESTROY THE PROTECTIVE OVERLAY THROUGH THE EXEMPTION BACK DOOR AMENDING THE OVERLAY WOULD COUNTER TO THE EXPRESSED WILL OF THE RESIDENTS OF SAINT HELENA AND THE CITIZENS OF COUNTY. THANK YOU. THANK.

SHARON HOLMES IS VERY. MY NAME IS SHARON HOLMES AND THE ADDRESS IS 151 SEASIDE ROAD. I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID TONIGHT.

I AM ALBANIAN AND I JUST WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO VOTE NO AGAINST US BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT PRIOR TO THE DATE I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS TODAY. SO EVERYBODY SAYING THIS IS JUST A LAST MINUTE THING THIS THING. I ALSO SUGGEST THAT TO PROTECT THE COUNTY, PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF THE ISLAND THAT IT COME TOGETHER WITH THE PEOPLE AND NOT JUST AN TEXT IN THERE THAT NOBODY AGREE WITH. FOR THE DEVELOPERS IN FUTURE AND WE GET WE SHOULD NOT JUST ALWAYS JUMP TO WHAT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS THREATEN WITH BEING EVEN IF YOU ARE COUNTY OR SMALL PERSON. AND SO ALL I'M ASKING TONIGHT FOR THE COMMITTEE TO DENY IT AND CONSIDER CULTURE. I AM A GIRL OF E.G. VINEYARD AND I GOT ALL RIGHT AS THE.

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RIGHT NOW. WE GOT FOLKS WHO GET UP IN ALL ABOUT 30 TRAVELING ROAD FROM SAINT HELENA OVER TO HILTON HEAD SPOKESMAN FOR IN ALLENDALE OLD 30 GETTING HOME OR DOCKERY AND THEN WE HAVE TROUBLED KIDS. WHY? BECAUSE MOM AND DADDY GET UP IN OLD THAT 30 THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO MESS WITH THEIR KIDS OR THE QUALITY TIME THEY GET HOME.

THE TOO TIRED TO BE WITH THE KIDS THEN THE CYCLE STARTS ALL OVER AGAIN.

NEXT YOU HAVE IS INFRASTRUCTURE HIGH IN THE WORLD. 500 HOUSES WHERE THEY TRAVEL RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD NARROW. SO IN HONEST WITH YOU TO THOSE FOLKS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE FOLKS OUT. AND GUESS WHAT FOLKS SAY? WELL, WHEN WE BRINGING IN JOBS WHAT KIND OF JOBS? HOUSE CLEANING, TAKING CARE OF THE GOLF COURSE.

BUT IF THE FOLKS DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO STAY BECAUSE OF THE TAXES.

WHERE IN THE WORLD TO LIVE RIGHT NOW HILTON HEAD YOU GOT FOLKS YOU KNOW OVER AND THAT'S A PROBLEM OF LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING YOU TAX FOLKS OUT THERE WHERE THE FOLKS DON'T GO.

SO IT'S MORE THAN AND YES IT'S A CULTURE ISSUE BUT IT'S ALSO AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN COUNTY. I REMEMBER GOING FISHING BEHIND THE RUSSELL. EVERY TIME YOU THREW OUT A LINE YOU A CATFISH CAN YOU GET A CATFISH? NOT SO PRETTY. AND NOW THAT THE SHRIMP AND STUFF OUR ENVIRONMENT IS BEING AFFECTED BY ALL OF THESE AND YET YOU HAVE FOLKS COME IN AND SAY WE ARE THE SAVIOR. WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU ALL OUT .

YEAH, WE WILL MOVE Y'ALL OUT. MY WIFE WAS GOING TO BE HERE ALSO BUT SHE'S DEFERRED.

THE THING OF IT IS FOLKS, AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, IF GOD'S NOT MAKING ANY MORE LAND WE LOSE IT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHRISTIAN WILLIAMS THAT WAS A PERFECT LINE TO TO FOLLOW. MY NAME'S KRISTEN WILLIAMS AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OPEN LAND TRUST. OUR ADDRESS IS 905 CHARLES STREET BUT WE REPRESENT ALL OF COUNTY AND SIX SURROUNDING COUNTIES. WE DON'T OFTEN APPEAR BEFORE THIS BODY. OUR JOB IS TO WORK WITH WILLING LANDOWNERS TO MAXIMIZE THE CONSERVATIONS ON THEIR PROPERTY RATHER THAN INCREASE ITS DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.

WE'VE THE PRIVILEGE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH COUNTY AND THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS AS A CONTRACTOR FOR THE RURAL AND CRITICAL PROGRAM. WE ARE SO PROUD TO BE PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT IS KNOWN FOR ITS FORWARD CONSERVATION CENTERED PLANNING.

OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS CONTINUE SHOW THEIR COMMITMENT TO CONSERVATION BY PUTTING FORWARD LAND PROTECTION BALLOT MEASURES . VOTERS CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR OVERWHELMING SUPPORT WITH FIVE SUCCESSFUL RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND REFERENDUMS AND THE NEWLY PASSED PENNY OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND COMMUNITY BASE ZONING MEASURES LIKE THE CALL FOR PROTECTION OVERLAY PLAY A HAND PLAYS A HEAVY EMPHASIS ON CONSERVING OUR NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES. THE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENT TO THE CPO THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT IS BOTH UNEXPECTED AND CONTRADICTORY TO EVERYTHING WE KNOW THE COUNTY STANDS FOR WHEN DEVELOPERS COME TO TOWN THEY OFTEN CALL OUR OFFICE INTERESTED TO LEARN ABOUT HOW AND DEVELOPMENT COMPLEMENT ONE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT.

CONSERVATION CAN BE ACHIEVED IF DONE WELL AND DONE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE TIMES SEEING HOW IDA IS ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING SEA ISLANDS ON THE EAST COAST WITH ITS IDENTITY AND INTEGRITY INTACT IT HAS NOT YET BEEN OVERRUN BY LAND SPECULATORS OR INAPPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS DISPLACED PEOPLE FROM THEIR LANDS. IT IS HOME TO CRAFTSMEN AND ARTISTS, BUSINESSES, FAMILY FARMS, A NATIONAL PARK AND, 3500 ACRES OF PROTECTED LAND. WE URGE YOU TO REJECT THE TEXT

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THE TAX AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS RELATED TO A DEVELOPMENT FOR A GOLF COURSE AND GATED COMMUNITY ON PINE ISLAND. SAINT HELENA IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR A GOLF COURSE OR A GATED COMMUNITY. WE'VE MET WITH THE DEVELOPERS, HEARD THEIR VISION AND TOWARD THE PROPERTY. WE FURTHER URGE YOU TO REJECT ANY REQUEST TO CONSIDER THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL AS IT IS IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION WITH THE CPO. THE DEVELOPERS CANNOT DO WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION. THE CHAPMANS SORRY I'M GOING TO BE OVER THREE BUT I'LL BE UNDER FOR THE TRACK RECORD OF COURSES IN RURAL COMMUNITIES BEING A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY IS ABYSMAL. THE TRACK RECORD OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS CREATING A BETTER OUTCOME FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN THE DEVELOPER IS EQUALLY LOW. SAINT HELENA IS A PRIORITY FOR ITS AGRICULTURAL, CULTURAL, HISTORICAL AND ECOLOGICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

THE PROPERTY AT THE ROOT OF TONIGHT'S PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT PINE ISLAND CHECKS ALL OF THESE BOXES AND DESERVES THE OUTCOME. A DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS NOT APPROPRIATE. WE WILL ENTHUSIASTICALLY ADVOCATE FOR FUNDING AND SUPPORT FOR THE ULTIMATE PROTECTION OF PINE ISLAND AND SAINT HELENA VILLE.

HOWEVER, TONIGHT'S REQUEST IS ABOUT ZONING, SOUND ZONING AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING SUPPORTS AND ENCOURAGES LAND. REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS.

THE BOUNDS OF ZONING DRIVE UP THE EVENTUAL COST LAND PROTECTION AND CAN MAKE COST CONSERVATION COST PROHIBITIVE. SAINT HELENA RESIDENTS HAVE ADVOCATED FOR THEIR COMMUNITY FOR DECADES AND WE STAND WITH THEM HERE TONIGHT. NOT ONLY IS A GOLF COURSE NOT APPROPRIATE, A CONSERVATION OUTCOME IS DESERVED. OUR CURRENT ZONING HELPS PROVIDE THAT OUTCOME. OUR CPO SHOULD STAND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALLOWING COMMENTS AND ALLOWING EVERYONE TO SPEAK TO ME. THANK YOU TO LINDA JONES.

LINDA JONES. OKAY, NEXT MARIE GIVES GOOD EVENING.

MARIE GIVES 1250 SEASIDE ROAD ST HELEN'S ISLAND SOUTH, CAROLINA.

I'M HERE TO READ A LETTER FROM MR. MARIE CAMPBELL. HE STATES THE CHAIRPERSON AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. I WAS PRIVILEGED TO SERVE AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CENTER ON ST HELEN'S ALMOST 20 YEARS DURING MY TENURE THE COMMISSION AND COUNTY COUNCIL RESPECTIVELY GAVE THEIR WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT ADOPTING A GULLAH CULTURE FOR PRESERVATION OF THE LAKE DISTRICT FOR ST HELEN'S ISLAND. THE BOWL AT THE COUNTY PROMOTED ST HELEN'S ISLAND MORAL LEADERSHIP FOR CULTURE AND ENVIRONMENT TO PROTECTION.

I BELIEVE THAT OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY RESIDENT SUPPORT ST HELEN'S ISLAND OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT RESTRICTS COMMERCIAL RESORT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS WHAT OUR COMMUNITY YEARN A PLACE THAT PRESERVES THE NATURAL CULTURAL HISTORY OF OUR COUNTY.

THEREFORE I URGE YOU TO HOLD FAST TO YOUR BOLD AND IF USING ANY REQUEST THAT WILL COMPROMISE THE CULTURAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL OVERLAY DISTRICT OF ST HELENS IRELAND.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I CAN GET FURTHER INFORMATION ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICT. THANKS FOR YOUR ON YIELDING LEADERSHIP.

SINCERELY EMORY CAMPBELL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR EMERITUS OF PENN CENTER.

IF HE WAS HERE HE WOULD STILL TALKING. BUT I THINK YOU IN ARMSTRONG YOU HAVE PUT THIS DOWN BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE ABLE HEAR ME? MY NAME'S AMY ARMSTRONG AND I'M THE OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA ENVIRONMENTAL LAW PROJECT. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE.

I'M ALSO A LAWYER. I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN A LITIGATOR FOR 20 YEARS SO I KNOW VERY WELL WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE IN THE COURTROOM HAVING TO FIGHT OVER LANGUAGE IN, A REGULATION

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WELL, IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS AND THERE HASN'T BEEN A CHALLENGE TO THE CPO YET.

BUT EVEN IF THERE WERE A PROBLEM WITH THE LANGUAGE IN THE CPO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT DOESN'T CHANGE THE LANGUAGE OF THE RESTRICTION THOSE RESTRICTIONS ARE STILL RIGHT THERE. IT JUST ADDS MORE LANGUAGE. SO IF THERE REALLY IS A PROBLEM WITH THE LANGUAGE THEN CHANGE THE RESTRICTIONS MAKE THEM MORE CLEAR.

HEARD SOMEBODY ELSE SUGGEST THIS EVENING AT THE GOLF EIGHT HOLE GOLF COURSE IS A PROBLEM.

THEN LET'S NOT ALLOW ANY GOLF COURSES. THAT'S THAT'S A DECISION THAT THIS CPO COMMISSION SHOULD BE TASKED WITH RIGHT NOW WE'RE THIS IS REALLY KIND OF PREEMPTING THAT REALLY IMPORTANT WORK OF PEOPLE LIKE QUEEQUEG THAT HAS BEEN SERVING FOR SO LONG IN THESE CAPACITIES TO REALLY BE ABLE TO GUIDE WHAT THINK HOW IT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE WHAT REALLY THE PROBLEM WITH THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT IS THAT IT DOESN'T IT ADDS LANGUAGE AND IT DOESN'T FIX OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE EXISTING LANGUAGE.

AND SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS ALLOWING ADDITIONAL USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY PROHIBITED THAT NOW WE HEARD A LOT AND I THINK WE HEARD A LOT ADDRESSING OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME BY THE STAFF FROM THE AND I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT WHEN THE CPO WAS INITIALLY ENACTED ABOUT THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS HOW THEY DECIDED THAT THESE BLUE CHIP RESTRICTIONS WOULD ACTUALLY DO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE CPO IS DESIGNED TO DO WOULD AFFECT THE INTENT AND PURPOSE AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE ULTIMATELY PASSED BY THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I WANT TO JUST TAKE A COUPLE MORE SECONDS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THE IMPLICATIONS OF PARTICULAR TEXT IN THE AMENDMENT BUT I'VE AT IT AND THERE ARE 40 PARCELS ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND THAT ARE LARGER THAN 50 ACRES. AND OF THOSE THOSE 40 PARCELS TOTAL TOGETHER ARE 5600 ACRES OF LAND THAT NOW WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THOSE THREE LAND USES AND THAT CAN ALL HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT THE IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT. AND SO LET'S NOT RIP OUT THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE CPO AND I URGE YOU TO DENY THIS TEXT AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.

YOU WENDY ZARA. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS WENDY ZARA AND I LIVE AT 1012 14TH STREET IN PORT ROYAL. I'VE HERE FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. I WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE ORIGINAL PLANNING ZONING ORDINANCES. I LIVED IN SHELDON AT THE TIME AND WE HAD A LOT OF COMMON CONCERNS WITH THE RESIDENTS AND SAYING HOW HONORED. I REMEMBER VERY WELL THE CPO WAS ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED AND I THINK THAT WE REALLY OWED RESPECT TO THAT COMMUNITY THAT WORKED SO HARD AND IS CONTINUING TO WORK SO HARD AT KEEPING COMMUNITY AND THEIR HERITAGE AND THE ENVIRONMENT THE THEY CHOOSE TO BE. PLEASE DON'T ALLOW THE 10TH AMENDMENT. I'M ALSO IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME I'VE WATCHED LOTS OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND DEVELOPERS, THE CITY AND DEVELOPERS FOR RURAL DEVELOPMENT. THE FIRST THING ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS THE PUBLIC IS NOT INVOLVED. IT'S A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND WHICHEVER GOVERNMENT THEIR POSITION SO THERE IS NO PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROBABLY WHEN IT GOES TO BE READ BY WHICHEVER GOVERNMENT BODY IT IS YOU GET TO GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING BUT THE CONTRACT ALREADY WRITTEN IT'S DONE. I AGREE WITH MAYOR MURRAY THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO USE SOME OF THAT $100 MILLION THAT THE VOTERS JUST VOTED FOR TO

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HOW ABOUT ALL THE TRUCKS THAT ARE GOING TO CARRY THE STUFF BACK AND FORTH FOR OUR VIEWERS THAT THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT RULING OUT WHETHER THEY CAN IT OR NOT BUT THIS IS THIS IS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY PRESERVE THIS PARCEL THAT SHOULD BE PRESERVED IN THE COMMUNITY. AND AGAIN, I REALLY WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE ST HELENA COMMUNITY FOR THE HARD WORK THEY HAVE DONE ON PROTECTING COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SARAH REYNOLDS GREEN OR SARAH REYNOLDS GREEN. ANOTHER ROOM IS A VERY EFFECTIVE AND ECO. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US ALL HERE TODAY WE BREATHE. I WROTE SOMETHING SO I WON'T SCATTER MYSELF BUT I JUST WANT SAY A COUPLE OF POINTS BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS SAID SO MUCH THAT WAS SO ELOQUENT IT IS THE POINT THAT WE'RE MAKING WE DO NOT WANT DEVELOPMENT WE DO NOT WANT IT IS NOT NECESSARY IS NOT NEEDED. THAT PRISTINE ISLAND CAN BE USED SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US CAN ENJOY AND NOT JUST A FEW. THANK YOU VERY IS MILLER NINE IS MILLER ONE EQUALS ACTS OF THE WORLD SAINT HELENA ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY ABOUT PINE ISLAND IN SAINT HELENA. BILL, THIS IS EXPERT FROM TOM'S BEACH JOURNAL REFERENCING SAINT HELENA VILLE EACH EXCELLENCE GIVES YOU A LITTLE BETTER LOOKING TO SAINT LONG THE BILL AND WHO OCCUPIED IT THIS THE HISTORY I'M LEARNING ABOUT IT NOW MYSELF THANKS TO TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE FRIENDS OF MINE SAINT HELENA VILLE DE PINE ISLAND INDEED HAD A PLANTATION WITH ENSLAVED BLACK PEOPLE. IT WAS A SUMMER RETREAT FOR THE 50 PLUS ENSLAVED WAS ON SAINT HELENA AND SURROUNDING AREAS. IT HAD MULTIPLE SCHOOLS AND STORES AND WAS EVEN A MAJOR PART FOCAL POINT FOR COTTON SCHOOLS AND BUSINESSES.

AS FAR AS EDISTO AND CHARLESTON THE NAME FOR THAT ROOM WAS SEA ISLAND COTTON AND FREEDMAN'S LIFE CHARLESTON AND EDISTO AND SETTLED IN SAINT HELENA TO BOLSTER THE ONE RUNNING SOUTH WESTERLY FROM SAINT HOW LITTLE ON A PINE BLUFF OVERLOOKING SAINT HOW LONG THE SOUND THE OTHERS RUNNING MORE WESTERLY FROM KAUFFMAN'S POINT ABOUT TWO MILES BELOW THE VILLAGE A FOURTH OF LAND'S END ROAD OR CHURCH ROAD AS THE UPPER NORTHERLY ROAD WAS CALLED LED WEST TO THE LADIES ISLAND FERRY, THE LOBERO LOCAL SEASIDE WAS THE RICH COFFEE FRUIT AND WINES BEFORE REACHING TUMBY AND LYONS THESE SAINTS ROADS WITH INTERVALS WOODEN CAUSEWAYS ALL OVER TIDAL DRAINS AND MARSHES CONNECTED THE PLANTATION TO ONE ANOTHER AND SO THE INSTITUTION WITH SERVICE WHITES AND SO YOU SEE THE CHURCHES GENERAL STORES AGRICOLE TO SOCIETY LARGE MUSTER HOUSES AND VILLAGES SAINT HELENA VALE WITH ITS WALL SAME BEACH, SUMMER MANSIONS, PARSONAGE AND SMALL BOARDING SCHOOLS AFTER CHAPLAIN LOST THE FIRST GROUP OF SLAVES HE WENT ON LIVING AS EXTRAVAGANTLY AS BEFORE A CHILD OF A GREAT AFRICAN DEPRESSION.

HE INHERITED IT FULL TO THEM BUT NOT ITS PARSIMONY. THAT WAS HIS UNDOING SEVERAL TIMES OLE JONES OF HIS ESTATE FELL BY THE WAYSIDE LIKE THE BLUFF ON SAINT HELENA BILL WASHING THE SEA STILL HE WAS ABLE TO LIVE RICHLY BY THE STANDARDS ANY OTHER AMERICAN OF HIS TIME WITH EXCEPTION PERHAPS OF THE MAN WHO LOOKED UP TO THE LARGE OF THE SEA

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THE QUESTION OF ONGOING AFFLUENCE BROUGHT TO BEAR AGAINST HER SO EXECUTE THE DEEDS SWIFTLY DISPOSED OF THE ANNUAL P JENKINS CHAPEL SECOND COUSIN AND ON HIS MOTHER'S SIDE AND FIRST COUSIN TO COLTRANE'S THE THEN YOU JENKINS GAVE THE ONLY TESTIMONY HE SAID THAT HE AND HIS BROTHER DR. JENKINS HAVE WITNESSED THE SIGNING OF THREE DEEDS TO THOMAS AND SAXBY CHAPLAIN AND ONE DEED TO THE SAME ROOM RESPECTFULLY OKAY OKAY PLEASE VOTE NO FOR THIS IS PROCEEDS TO OUR FUTURE AND OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE. MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT THEY DONATE THE LAND TO HANSEN WHERE ARE AND LAW RETURNED TO OUR ENSLAVED PEOPLE HOW TO PROSPER THANK YOU THANK SAY SALLY MAYES AND I HI. I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE HAVING HERE TONIGHT. WELL I'VE BEEN A OF OUT ON THE ISLAND FOR MORE THAN TWO DECADES AND SALLY MAYES I LIVE IN DELANO AND I'M PROUD TO BE A ST HELENA RESIDENT.

WHAT I WANTED I AGREE WITH REGRET I'M WITH HER WITH STEVO STEVE MURRAY GOVERNOR I MEAN THAT MAYOR SORRY SORRY. I'M I'M HOPING ALWAYS YEAH. AND MY MY FORMER STUDENT WHAT I WANT TO DO THOUGH IS SORT OF REMIND YOU WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW THE JOB OF GOVERNMENT IS TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND PROPERTY . WE THESE PEOPLE ARE WE ARE WE WE THESE PEOPLE ALL RIGHT? WE THESE PEOPLE AND I THINK WE SPOKE CLEARLY THAT WE WANT OUR ISLAND PROTECTED AND WE HOPE WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THIS INFORMATION ON UP TO YOU AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE THAT WILL MAKE IT CLEAR TO THEM WE WANT 100% TOTAL IRONCLAD PROTECTION FOR OUR ISLAND. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO INSTEAD OF REITERATING ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT I GOT TO TALK TO YOU THAT A BIRD, A REALLY ANCIENT BIRD IT'S BEEN HERE FOREVER BUT A PIECE AT A TIME. THIS BIRD HAS BEEN FEATHERS. IT'S BEEN PLUCKED ALMOST TO DEATH. BUT SHE'S STILL WITH US AND SHE CAN STILL BE REVIVED HER GOLDEN EGG IS PRETTY TARNISHED, PRETTY MESSED UP NOT NICE LOOKING ANYMORE BUT.

THAT GOLDEN EGG LAID BY THAT GOOSE CAN BE SHINED UP AND MADE GLORIOUS AGAIN AS KIND THAT GO THAT GOOSE THAT LAID THAT GOLDEN EGG SAYING HELENA ISLAND IS THE GOLDEN EGG.

LET US TAKE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JOHN GUNN. GOOD EVENING. JUST A FEW THOUGHTS ABOUT THE ORIGINAL AGENDA HAD TWO ITEMS ON IT. THE FIRST WE INVOLVED ONE ACRE OF LAND AND FOUR PAGE MEMO FROM THE PLANNING STAFF IN ABOUT SEVEN PAGES OF BACK UP MATERIAL. IF I COUNT IT CORRECTLY, THE ITEM THAT STAYED ON THE AGENDA 64 SQUARE MILES CHANGES THE 2040 PLAN AND CHANGES THE CPO THAT PUT IN PLACE 22 YEARS AGO.

IT HAD A ONE PAGE MEMO FROM STAFF WITH NO BACK UP MATERIAL WHY 50 ACRES? WHY NOT 25? WHY NOT 75? WHY NOT 100? WHAT'S HIGHWAY APPARENTLY WE LEARNED TONIGHT IT'S NOT WETLAND SO THERE WERE NO MAPS THERE, NO DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION LIKE IN THE PLAN. THERE'S SIMPLY NO CRITICAL CREDIBLE ANALYSIS, NONE 64 SQUARE MILES IS ABOUT 40,000 ACRES AND 50 IS LESS THAN ONE 100% OF THE CPO. WHY NOT 1% AND 500 ACRES OR A THOUSAND ACRES AND GET COVERED 2% WE TALKED ABOUT WE HEARD ABOUT YOU CAN DO ANYTHING WELL IT'S ALREADY ZONED 50 T 83 SOMETHING THAT I IMAGINE PROHIBITS THE BALL I THINK I DON'T KNOW PLANNING SHOULD HAVE

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HI, MY NAME'S STRAW ARMSTRONG, THE SON OF REED ARMSTRONG AND I WAS BROUGHT HERE AS A LITTLE 309 TIME FOR GROWING SAINT HELENA ISLAND. I'M JUST PROUD TO BE HERE AND PROUD TO SEE THE CITIZENS ALL RALLIED TOGETHER. I THINK YOU'VE GOT A REAL GEM.

I'VE BEEN AROUND THE WORLD SINCE I GREW UP HERE AND I COME BACK HOME.

I BROUGHT MY WIFE HERE. SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE FATHER'S HOUSE.

SHE CAME HERE. SHE WANTS TO LEAVE HERE AND WE HAVE REALLY COME OUT FROM THE PROPERTY EVER SINCE WE'VE BEEN THREE YEARS AGO. BUT THIS IS DEALING WITH A LOT A LOT REASON FOR US TO GET UP AND COME ON DOWN HERE. AND I REALLY THINK THAT YOU ALL HAVE A SPECIAL SPECIAL DEMANDS AT HOME. I DON'T WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW ABOUT IT. ALL THE PEOPLE, THE CULTURE IT'S REALLY IRREPLACEABLE AND THE ENVIRONMENT YOU CAN'T GET THAT BACK AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I'D TO SEE THIS PRESERVED AND THE CULTURAL INTEGRITY MAINTAINED THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU LADY CHAPLAIN LARRY CHAPLAIN IS SHE IN THE OTHER ROOM PERHAPS. IS SHE GOING ALL RIGHT.

TOM DONOHUE? NO, NO. YOU THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF PEOPLE BUT TWO THINGS I WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON I'VE LIVED HERE FOR YEARS, CAME DOWN FROM VIRGINIA.

I'VE BEEN TRAVEL I'VE LIVED AN LOT OF PLACES IN THE SOUTHEAST SINCE ABOUT 1978.

BUT ANYWAY, SINCE I MOVED TO SAINT HELENA I HAVE TO SAY THAT SOME OF THE MOST WONDERFUL LOVING ENCOUNTERS WITH PEOPLE IN MY LIFE HAVE BEEN WITH THE PEOPLE AND ST HELENA IS THEIR PLACE. THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE IT IN THIS COUNTRY THAT I KNOW OF RESPECT AND PROTECTION FOR THEIR WAY OF LIFE. THE UNIQUENESS JUST BLOWS MY MIND AND IF THE LOVE THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR HEARTS COULD BE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY WE'D BE LIVING IN A DIFFERENT WORLD TODAY. AND YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I RESPECT THAT. SECOND OF ALL, I'M AN ENVIRONMENTALIST.

I'VE SPENT MY LIFE MAKING MONEY OFF ENVIRONMENT, MOSTLY FISHING AND YOU KNOW, I CARRY A LOT OF GUILT WITH ME BECAUSE. I'M A LATE STAGE BABY BOOMER AND I'VE DONE MY SHARE TO DESTROY OUR ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY ARE MOTHER NATURE'S DOING HER THING BUT WHEN FISH I LIVE

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I'VE ASKED GOD THERE'S NO FISH LEFT TO CATCH MY EYE KNOW TRY SWINGING IN A GOLF CLUB ONE TIME BUT YEAH I TELL YOU I THINK THERE'S BABY BOOMERS THAT GOLF AND THE GENERATION US PROBABLY GOLF BUT I THINK ONCE YOU START GETTING INTO MILLENNIALS THAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW THE NUMBERS OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT GOLF SO BUILDING A GOLF COURSE ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF THEM THERE'S A FEW OF THEM ON THIS END IN THE COUNTY IF THEY REALLY WANT TO GOLF THAT BAD GO IN AND WORK WITH COUNTY HAS ALREADY ALLOWED THIS DESTRUCTION TO TAKE PLACE YOU KNOW SO I DON'T KNOW IT TO ME IT'S IT'S ALL ABOUT THIS AND WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND I JUST DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD IDEA I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE ALL THAT CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE GOING ON WHAT IT WOULD DO TO WHAT I STILL TO BE A FAIRLY PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT FOR US THERE AND YOU KNOW I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER PROTECT THE AND STANDING UP AGAINST THIS MONSTER VERY RARELY YOU THINK SOMEBODY FOLK ARNOLD BROWNE GREEN MY NAME IS ON THE GROUND YOU KNOW MY ADDRESS IS 127 DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE ON SUNDAY ON THE ISLAND I ALMOST GREW UP ON CAMPUS I WANT TO SAY THAT PERCEPTION IS REALITY PERCEPTION IS REALITY IN PERCEPTION THAT'S OUT THERE I BELIEVE THAT PERCEPTION OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT'S GROWING IS MISTRUST AND BECAUSE THERE'S A FIDUCIARY EVERYONE HAS A FIDUCIARY AND WHAT HAPPENED HERE TONIGHT THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY SEEMS TO LIE WITH DEVELOPER. I'VE HEARD IF I WAS A DEVELOPER IF I WAS IN A COURTROOM THE CASE THAT WAS PRESENTED WOULD BE THE CASE PRESENTED BY A DEVELOPER. BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM EMPLOYEES SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO THIS IS WHAT WE RECOMMEND TO FIGHT ANY DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN IN THE FUTURE ONCE YOU OPEN THAT CAN OF WORMS, OPEN THE DOOR, YOU SET A PRECEDENT AND EVERYBODY ELSE GOING TO DRIVE THROUGH IT. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. THE PROCESS HAS BEEN STEAMROLLED PUT IN AT THE LAST MINUTE. THIS AS FAR AS BUSINESS DAYS OF THE MONTH DECEMBER WAS THE SHORTEST TIME WE HAD TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO, GET ORGANIZED TO FIGHT THIS PUBLIC TRUST HAS BEEN VIOLATED IT DELIBERATELY I BELIEVE BY GOING BACK INFORMATION TO MEMBERS OF CITIZENS WITHIN OMAHA THERE WAS A STAFF MEETING THAT WAS HELD A STAFF REVIEW MEETING THAT WAS HELD HELD HERE ON THIS CAMPUS ON NOVEMBER 16TH AND I REVIEWED IN THE MORNING AND I HAVE A COPY OF THE MINUTES ON THE AGENDA KIND OF INSULTING THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AND THEN THEY WENT INTO A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT PINE ISLAND ZONING AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU A COPY OF THIS. IF THIS IF ANY DEVELOPER WAS IN THE MEETING BUT THE DEVELOPER WAS ALLOWED TO STAY AND THE PUBLIC OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAD TO LEAVE. THAT'S WHY THERE IS A MISTRUST IT SEEMS AND WE ARE AGENTS OF THE DEVELOPER WHO'S A WHO'S THE AGENT OF THE DEVELOPER. THE DEVELOPER COULD HAVE BEEN HERE. I WISH HE WAS HERE TONIGHT. I'VE MET HIM.

I HAVE HIS PHONE NUMBER. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE TONIGHT TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION THAT'S GOING ON. SO I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT HE'S NOT HERE AND I'M DISAPPOINTED AND I'M SORRY SO I'D LIKE TO PASS THIS OUT TO YOU WHAT I'M VERY CONCERNED HOW CAN YOU HAVE A MEETING ABOUT A PUBLIC ISSUE CITIZENS SIN OF OF THE ISLAND ASKED TO LEAVE YET

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I FOUGHT VEHEMENTLY ABOUT THE BONEYARD HUNTING ISLAND. IT WAS HEARTBREAKING.

SO SOME THINGS HAVE ALREADY CHANGED BUT I HAVE TO SAY SINCE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS PASSED AS AN ORDINANCE AND ALL OF ITS CONTENTS ARE PASSED AS AN ORDINANCE, IT HAS THE WEIGHT OF LAW. STICK TO YOUR GUNS. STAY WITH IT.

THESE PEOPLE HAD INSIGHT AND THEY GOT IT DONE AND WE JUST NEED TO STAY ON.

COURSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK DAVID SMITH. DAVID SMITH. OKAY.

CHRISTINE ALEXANDER. HI EVERYONE. MY NAME IS PACINO XANDER AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I WAS BORN HERE RAISED ON SAINT HELENA. MY GRANDMOTHER AND I USED TO GO AND FISH AND CATCH CRAB RIGHT THERE NEXT EBENEZER BAPTIST CHURCH. I'VE BEEN GONE FOR 35 YEARS BUT IT WAS WITH ANTICIPATION THAT I RETURNED TO SAINT HELENA ISLAND .

I'M PROUD OF MY HOME. I'VE BEEN TO JAPAN. I'VE TO ICELAND AND WITH ALL OF THAT AND I'VE BEEN TO LOTS OF PLACES IN THE U.S. BUT NOTHING NOTHING COMPARED TO SAINT HELENA ISLAND. SO WHEN I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN EARLIER THAN SCHEDULED BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY PLAN TO RETURN TO USING HOME I CAME AND I'M HERE TO STAY AND I LOVE MY HOME THERE IS A LOT OF HISTORY HERE AND I THINK WE NEED TO PRESERVE THAT HISTORY. WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE U.S. DO NOT HAVE AND I THINK WE NEED TREASURE IT. THERE IS A SAYING IN A LOT OF STATES OUT THERE THAT SAINT HELENA ISLAND IS FOR SALE AND I DON'T MEAN THAT LITERALLY BUT I DO MEAN IT LITERALLY. THEY ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO GET THEIR HANDS ON A PROPERTY ON ST HELENA ISLAND AND THEY WON'T BE THE SAME WHEN YOU LOOK AT HILTON HEAD ISLAND IT DIDN'T START OUT THE WAY THAT IT IS NOW IT'S A SPRAWL AND THERE IS PROBABLY THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE YEARS AGO RECOGNIZED AND COMMUNITY ON HILTON HEAD LIKE ALL GET OUT TO KEEP WHAT THEY HAVE AND IF NOT CAREFUL WE ARE GOING TO END UP EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE AND I

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STICK TO YOUR AND SAY WE DON'T NEED THIS. WE NEED TO PROTECT THOSE PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND. WE NEED TO PROTECT THEIR CULTURE.

WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR HISTORY AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO OH AND BY THE WAY, MY ANGELUS IS 47 QUEEN'S ROAD ST HELENA ISLAND THANK YOU YOU YOU DAVID SMITH OKAY.

SURE. THANK YOU. MY NAME AND MY NAME IS DAVID SMITH. I'M A NATIVE BORN SOUTH CAROLINIAN.

I HAVE LIVED THE MAJORITY OF MY ADULT ON THE ISLAND ISLAND THE SAME ACREAGE I'M JUST UP THE CREEK FROM PINE ISLANDS. ANYTHING AFFECTS PINE ISLAND AFFECTS ME AND MY LIFE.

I STRONGLY OPPOSE ANY MODIFICATION TO THE CPO AND I ACTUALLY WROTE THAT WHEN I THOUGHT THAT FROM WHAT I READ EARLIER THAT WHAT THE DEVELOPER WANTED WAS TO BE EXEMPT FROM THE CPO HERE TONIGHT THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO CHANGE IT OR SOMETHING.

IT'S JUST JUST CONFUSING. I FEEL LIKE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WAS AN AGENT OF THE DEVELOPER, NOT MY AND THE REST OF US HERE IS EMPLOYEE .

MY QUESTION FOR THE LAWYERS AND THE CROWD YOU BOTH KNOW WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS.

OH YOU'RE WOW A GATED AND A GOLF COURSE ON THAT VERY VERY NARROW STRIP OF LAND THERE.

HYDRO CREEKS ON BOTH SIDES OF IT. IT GOES TO EMPLOYEE IS A HIGH BLUFF VERY HIGH POINT WHICH IS ERODING AWAY WHICH SOMEBODY BUILDS THERE THEN THEY'RE GOING TO WANT ALL KINDS OF VARIANCES TO ORDINANCE TO BUILD SEAWALLS AND THINGS SO YOU TAKE A LOOK AT PINE ISLAND AND SEE HOW UNSUITABLE IT AND THE LAND ITSELF OR THE GETTING OFF TRACK HERE. YOU KNOW IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THE ONLY PERSON THAT THE ONLY BENEFICIARIES OF THIS ALLOWING THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A BOSTON DEVELOPER CERTAINLY NOT THE CULTURE AND THE RESIDENTS OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND, SOME WHO HAVE GRANDFATHERS, PARENTS ,GRANDFATHERS, GREAT GRANDFATHERS, GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHERS THAT LIVED HERE.

I'M SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT HAPPY TO HAVE AN OUTSIDER FROM BOSTON COME IN AND CHANGE THINGS FREQUENTLY COUNCIL COMES TO WORK ON ELECTION TIME. THEY WANT TO ADD A REFERENDUM FOR MORE TAXES TO PUT UP ANY SALES TAX OR WHATEVER? BUY GREEN SPACES WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT GREEN SPACE RIGHT HERE. I'M HOLLAND WHY DON'T WE CONCENTRATE ON PRESERVING THAT VERY PINE ISLAND AND SAINT HELENA VILLE? THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE TO A POLITICIAN.

MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE TO BUREAUCRATS AND COUNTY COUNCIL AS A LONG TERM RESIDENT SAY ON AN ISLAND IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME YOU ALSO IN ADDITION TO THE CULTURAL CONSIDERATIONS OF THIS LARGE DEVELOPMENT WE'RE SAYING IS THE MAJOR IMPACTS ON THE TRAFFIC DOWN TO VERY NARROW ROADS SAYING HELLO I'D SAY THE LONGMORE ROAD AND TOM FRIPP THEN RESPECTFULLY CAN YOU FINISH YOUR COMMENTS SUMMARY SURE. THAT'S PROBABLY IT.

THIS IS REALLY THINGS THAT ARE DAVID WILLIAMS AND DAVID WILLIAMS BUT FATHER STUART TRAVIS STUART OH OKAY SO I PRETTY MUCH MY NAME IS TRAVIS STEWART AND I LIVE ON SAINT

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BUT I'M ONE OF THOSE DARN NORTHERNERS THAT BELL AND THE SAINT HELENA FROM NORTH CAROLINA AND I RUN FROM DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS OF MY LIFE AS A PREVIOUS CITIZEN IN THE CHARLOTTE AREA. YOU MIGHT KNOW WHAT I MEAN. SO I'M PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE.

I'M A GOOD OLD COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, I CAME DOWN HERE WITH MY HORSE LOOKING FOR COUNTRY AND.

THEN I LEARNED HOW TO FISH AND THROW A CAST NET WITH THE BEST OF THEM AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN HERE JUMP THAT IT TAUGHT ME BETTER THAN THE FOLKS THAT TAUGHT ME BUT I JUST ST IS INDEED SOMETHING SPECIAL. IT'S BEEN A TRUE HEART AND LIFE CHANGER FOR ME AND MY FAMILY AND. WE'LL FIGHT WHATEVER IT MEANS.

I WAS REALLY SORT OF SURPRISED THAT THIS STARTED WITH A CONVERSATION THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HELD BEHIND CLOSED. APPARENTLY THAT WAS A SHOCK TO ME THAT.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY PROPOSED AND HAD BEEN TALKED ABOUT. WELL, APPARENTLY IT HAD BEEN PROPOSED TALKED ABOUT BUT NOT PUBLICLY. SO WHEN THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS LITTLE CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND YOUR LEGAL FOLKS, I WAS LIKE WHAT IS THIS? SO I HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE THOUGH AND I'M GLAD THAT PEOPLE HERE WERE SMART ENOUGH SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE DOOR TO THINGS AND I'LL WANT YOU ALL LIKE EVERYONE ELSE SAID TO BE STRONG ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THAT YOU GOT TO STICK TO YOUR GUNS AND WE ALL HAVE TO CONTINUE COME OUT AND SUPPORT AND BE A PART OF WHATEVER COMMUNITY YOU NEED TO TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN PRESERVE NOT ONLY CULTURE AND YOUR LAND BUT YOUR WAY OF LIFE. SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I HOPE THAT SOON WE HAVE AN END TO BENEFITING THE FEW AND DESTROYING THE MANY. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND PLEASE LET'S SAY NO TO THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.

ROBERT HENDRICKS. ROBERT HENDRICKS NO. SARAH RENO KERRY LEE HAWK YOU 27 COTTAGE FARM ROAD DRIVE SHE'S NOT HERE. OKAY, HENRY THIS LOOKS LIKE HENRY BRANDON OKAY. YOU'LL HEAR ME OKAY AS I'M GETTING UP THE TOP OF THIS STORY. SO YEAH HENRY BRANDT RUN A BUSINESS HERE IN CALLED COASTAL EXPEDITIONS AND WE'RE AT 1928 SALEM PARKWAY. WE'RE OVER THERE IN THE COMMERCIAL FISHING VILLAGE A RELAY WHICH IS A WHERE WE FOUND OURSELVES AS WE WERE TRYING TO GET TO FIND THE NICHE WE FIT INTO. WE MOVE DOWN TO BEAUFORT AND THERE WERE SOME SUN CONDITIONS THAT KIND OF HAD TO BE MET BEFORE WE ACTUALLY DECIDED TO COME TO AND ONE OF THEM WAS WE ENDED UP A GETTING THIS DEAL WITH THE CPR TO DO TOURS OUT HUNTING ON STATE PARK AND THEN A FERRY SERVICE OUT TO SAINT PHILIP'S ISLAND TAKING THE COUNTRY OUT THERE BEFORE AND MANY OTHER FOLKS BUT ALSO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE DECIDE TO OPEN A BUSINESS IN THAT WE FOUND NICHE THAT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR US TO FILL IT ON SAINT HELENA WE FOUND THAT LOVELY COMMERCIAL FISHING VILLAGE OVERLAY AND BUT SAINT HELENA ISLAND WOULD APPEALED TO US WAS REALLY NOT SINCE I WAS A BOY HAD SEEN SEA ISLAND THAT WAS SO YEAH I'M BORN IN SAVANNAH AND I SPENT MOST OF MY LIFE LIVING IN CHARLESTON AND THEN TO COME TO WHERE YOU RUN THROUGH THIS RURAL SEA ISLAND THEN YOU DUMP ONTO AN UNDEVELOPED BARRIER ISLAND AND YOU DON'T SEE THAT TOO OFTEN ANYMORE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A RARE RESOURCE AND I'VE DONE THAT PADDLE FOR MELTING POINT AND STOPPED IN. I EAT LUNCH RIGHT THERE ON THE BEACH OF PINE ISLAND SITTING THERE STARING AT MORGAN AND ST HELENA SOUND AND SITS I MEAN JUST THERE AT THE MOUTH OF ONE

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I THINK PRESERVING LAND LIKE PINE ISLAND IS ESSENTIAL YOU KNOW BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR THE GOAL OF PRESERVATION SINCE I GOT HERE YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPRESSED ME ABOUT SAINT HELENA ISLAND WAS RICH AND JUST STEEPED IN ALL THE CULTURE IT WAS AND THAT SOMEHOW SAINT HELENA ISLAND HAD OR BEFORE HAD MANAGED TO MAINTAIN THAT AND I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN FOCUS IS TO CONTINUE THAT TREND AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE DOING WE'RE THE BEST FOR THE GOAL OF EACH CULTURE ON SAINT HELENA AND IT'S ENOUGH FOR THE COMMUNITY YOU KNOW FOR THE LAND TRUST FOR CLIFFORD SOUTHERN ENVIRONMENTAL IT IS THEY'RE ALL SAYING IT'S THE MOVE AND IT'S THE MOVE SO. THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU ALL.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, DENISE. AN EAST PASTOR.

WHAT A NIGHT, HUH? YEAH, THANK YOU. MY NAME DENISE PASSING.

I LIVE AT 1819 ROYAL PALMS ROAD IN ROYAL. I AM HERE AS A COMMISSIONER.

I'M A COMMISSIONER WITH THE SOIL WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND OUR MISSION IS PROTECT, PROMOTE AND PRESERVE THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF AND WE ESPECIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE ISLAND. IT HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT ARE EVEN SOME MINOR MINING ISSUES THERE THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL BECAUSE WHETHER YOU ARE AWARE OR NOT BUT THERE'S SALTWATER INTRUSION ON SAINT HELENA IT'S NOT GOING AWAY AND WE'RE WE'RE CALLED THE LOWCOUNTRY AND IT'S OBVIOUS IN THIS PART OF WORLD THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE BRINGING 39,000 TRUCKS OF DIRT LIKE WE DID ON LADY'S ISLAND. THE OTHER THING IS THAT'S A GOOD THING I THINK YOU KNOW OH YOU IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE MIGHT NOT BELIEVE IN CLIMATE CHANGE BUT YOU'VE GOT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS SEA LEVEL RISE AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN EROSION THEN YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON HARBOR ISLAND OR HUNTING ISLAND AND PROBABLY EVEN YOU KNOW THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT'S IT'S IT'S IT'S HAPPENING AND WE'RE JUST CONCERNED.

SO HOPEFULLY TAKE ALL THESE ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR AREA TO HEART AND IF YOU DON'T SAY NO THEN YOU'RE SAYING GOODBYE AGRICULTURE GOOD BYE AQUACULTURE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY MORE OF THAT ALL THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, VICTORIA SMALLS. ALL RIGHT. DO GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. I STAND PROUDLY VICTORIA SMALLS P.O. BOX 49 ST HELENA ISLAND I NEEDED MADE UP OF TIME FOR THE LOMO AT THIS POINT AND IT DESCENDED I SAID HOW LONG AGO WE HAVE ANCESTRAL ABOUT 20 ACRES THAT WE WALKED THE LAND WE LIVED OFF THE WATER RESPECTIVELY AND I'M SO VERY TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ECOLOGY CULTURAL CORRIDOR NATIONAL HERITAGE AREA WHERE I SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND I'M ALSO WORKING ON BEHALF OF OUR FEDERAL COMMISSION OUR ISLAND IS SIGNIFICANT AND TO NOT JUST TO THE PEOPLE BUT THE CASSAVA THE YANCEY AND OTHER NATIVE TRIBES TO THE WORLD WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF AND AT THE CENTER FOR ALL OF LEGACY CULTURE ST HELENA ISLAND ONE OF THE FIRST IF NOT THE ONLY MENTIONED THE EPICENTER THE EPICENTER FOR THE CULTURE THE GOLDEN KITCHEN CULTURAL HERITAGE CORRIDORS AND NATIONAL HERITAGE AREA ESTABLISHED BY THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS IN 2006 PUBLIC LAW 109 338 AND WE RECENTLY WERE REAUTHORIZED AS THE

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SAINT HELENA ISLAND COMMUNITY HAS AND PROTECTED ITSELF AGAINST UNABATED AMOUNTS THREATS CONTINUOUSLY HOW MUCH MORE CAN YOU TAKE? I WANT TO END IN STATING THAT LOOK AT YOUR QUARTER NATIONAL HERITAGE AREA IS FEDERAL COMMISSION STAND WITH PEN CENTER THE WDC NATION COASTAL CONSERVATION WE GIVE AN OVERLAY AND CHARLES HILTON HAD ALL THE BONDS INSIDE SAVANNAH ARCHEOLOGICAL ALLIANCE BECAUSE LAST ARCHEOLOGICAL FINDINGS THIS SITE WHICH I'M CONCERNED THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC WE ALSO STAY OR PRESERVE THE SEA AND THE GOVERNOR HIMSELF HENRY MCMASTER AGAINST THIS SO PLEASE UTILIZE THE CITIZENS THE EXPERTIZE KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITIZENS AND YOU'VE BEEN ASSEMBLED AND APPOINTED TO SERVE ON THE CPO COMMITTEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS OR ANY DIALOG THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THESE CITIZENS NEED BE HEARD AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL LISTEN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ACT ACCORDINGLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DO SOMETHING. WILLIAM SMITH. WILLIAM SMITH.

OH I DON'T COMMISSION MY NAME IS WILLIAM SMITH. I'M MOST EFFICIENT THIS COMING IN I APPRECIATE YOU AS WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICES WHAT YOU DO IS DEFINITELY APPRECIATE AND HOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO SAY A LOT FIRST THING I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU TONIGHT I THINK THAT IS VERY CONCERNING TO HAVE THIS THIS CONVERSATION TONIGHT AND NOT HAVE ANY ATTORNEYS ON YOUR BEHALF THIS BOARD BECAUSE WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAWSUITS ARE ALL KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE SUED HAVE SUED THE GOP AND THEY HAVE SUED OTHER BOYS LIKE LIKE YOU LIKE YOURSELVES. SO I WOULD BE CAREFUL LIKE THEY SAID I WOULD BE I WOULD BE CAREFUL OF HOW OUR APPROACH IS WITHOUT HAVING AN ATTORNEY.

AND I'M JUST I'M JUST PUTTING THIS IS EVERYBODY PUTTING OUT THERE BY THROWING THINGS OUT THE EYES WHICH I KNOW YOU KNOW BECAUSE LIKE IT'S LIKE SOMEONE WAS TELLING THE OTHER NIGHT THE LEGAL GYMNASTICS. SO YOU PROTECT YOURSELVES TOO FROM LEGAL GYMNASTICS BECAUSE THERE'S THING TO BRING IT FORWARD. BUT HAVING BLACK AND WHITE THAT'S SOMETHING BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER CLEARLY THIS THIS WAS THIS CONVERSATION WAS TALKED ABOUT WITH THIS WITH THIS WHAT THIS DEVELOPER A YEAR AGO I REMEMBER WHEN THAT WHEN ONE OF THE KIND OF COSMETIC OF OUR AREA THERE WAS DISCUSSION THERE WERE CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY A YEAR AGO SO THIS SAME FOLDER IS THE SAME AS THE SAME BOARD THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT IT. MR. ALWAYS SAID THAT THEY JUST ASSUMED ASSEMBLED WHY WOULDN'T THAT WHY WHY WHEN THE MORE MONTHS AGO OR A YEAR AGO WHEN THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENED YOU START HAVING THIS CONVERSATION GOING WELL COME ON, COME HERE WITH NO WHO'S NOT COMING? THERE WAS GREAT SEX. I'M COMING. IT WAS GREAT.

FIRST OF ALL IT'S GREAT. IT'S BEEN INFORMATIVE AND COULD GIVE OUR TESTIMONY AND I SAY TO THE COMMUNITY YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO STOP ALLOWING THIS IS MADE ABOUT THE SECOND OR THIRD.

YOU'RE CORRECT ABOUT WHEN WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT TRYING TO FIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY THE SAME WAY HOW THE KIND OF ADMINISTRATOR BROUGHT FORWARD THEIR APPROACH OR WHAT

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THIS IS A TOUGH CONVERSATION. IT'S A TOUGH SPOT TO BE IN BUT I WOULD WHAT I'M GOING TO GIVE WICHITA I'M GOING TO BRING YOU SOMETHING NO ONE ELSE BUT YOU BEFORE FACTS THAT CHECK OUT AND ALSO SOME OF THAT BEING I SAID IT RIGHT NOW THESE ARE THE QUESTION THAT TRANSCENDS TO KEVIN AND THE QUESTION THAT I REPRESENT THE BEST THERE WERE NO ONE DISRESPECTFUL QUESTIONS STAFF THERE WERE TOUGH QUESTIONS AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO ASK TOUGH SELL TOUGH SESSION BECAUSE GOT PUT PARTICULAR PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR PLACES THAT'S PARTICULAR QUESTION DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING TRYING TO BLOCK THE MIDDLE GOOD JOB I I'M GOING TO NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS ONE JUSTICE I'M AFRAID CHIEF CHIEF SCOTT WON'T TAKE A TACKLE SO SHE'S SINGLE? YES HE SAID TO OUTSIDE AGAIN YOU IT SEKOU WELL I'M NOT USED THE LUMBER YOU MUST BE HARD JOB AND THEY MAKE EASY CALAMITY TO ALLOW ME SEE HOW DO WE COOL MUST AND MY LANGUAGE I AM CHIEF THE COO OF THE MASSEY TRIBE ONE OF THE VERY FEW VOICES THAT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT THAT WHEN HE SAID I NEED TO TONIGHT I'M ACTUALLY REPRESENTED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TWO LANDOWNERS THIS IS MY PEOPLE 54 YEARS AGO FOUGHT FOR EVERYONE TO BE HERE. WE WERE THE FIRST COAST GUARD FOR THIS GREAT STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. WE PROTECTED THE COLONIES THAT CAME. YOU KNOW, ONLY WE DO THAT WE FOUGHT FOR THE GULLAH PEOPLE.

WE RESCUE THE GULLAH PEOPLE. THAT CULTURE THAT HERITAGE IS INTERTWINED WITH MY PEOPLE.

THE THING THAT MY SISTER HAD BEEN FIGHTING FOR ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US I'M WITH YOUR MASAI. I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE RIGHT NOW BUT BECAUSE WE FOUGHT FOR ALL PEOPLE AND WE FOUGHT FOR OUR OWN SURVIVAL INCLUDING GULF PEOPLE IS THE REASON WHY I'M HERE. WE START BECOMING KNOWN AS THE MUSCLE WE BECAME KNOWN AS SEMINOLE RUNAWAYS RUN FROM SLAVE PLANTATIONS TRYING TO FREE OUR PEOPLE THROUGH THE GULLAH PEOPLE. THAT CORRIDOR IS OUR CODE WITH WILL THIS HERITAGE IS OUR HERITAGE AS WELL AND WE'VE BEEN FORGOTTEN MY SISTER HAS BEEN FIGHTING THIS BATTLE AND THE GULF HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS BATTLE FOR A LONG TIME. BUT I GOT A CALL THAT SAID WE NEED YOUR PEOPLE HERE TO LET THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS LAND ORIGINALLY IS MY PEOPLE LAND AND WE'VE LET PEOPLE LIVE HERE. WE HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING. WE'VE KEPT QUIET BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE WHERE YOUR ANCESTORS ALSO FOUGHT AND DIED . I'M ASKING YOU TO PRESERVE WHAT HERITAGE AND HISTORY IS LEFT OF MY PEOPLE THOSE ARCHEOLOGICAL FINDS AND MY PEOPLE THAT'S OUR HERITAGE.

MY CHILDREN ARE HERE WITH. ME AND I BRING THEM WITH ME BECAUSE THEY NEED TO WITNESS HISTORY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT BEEN FIGHTING FOR, WHAT THEIR ANCESTORS FOUGHT FOR.

I APPLAUD EVERYONE THAT HAS BEEN HERE TONIGHT STANDING UP WHAT IS RIGHT NOT EVEN UNDERSTANDING THAT INDIGENOUS PEOPLE STANDING LISTENING TO YOU ALL APPRECIATE YOUR VOICES THANKING YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE THIS AS A SPEAKING AS WELL BUT I WILL SAY TO YOU THIS PLACE DUVAL COUNTY WAS FOUNDED 1760 954 YEARS PRIOR TO THAT MY PEOPLE WILL FIGHT IN A WAR IT'S

[02:40:01]

I HAD TO STOP MY PEOPLE FROM COMING HERE AND A THOUSAND FOR OUR VOICES TO BE HEARD SAID MY VOICE IS ENOUGH. I'LL SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE STAND WITH. SO I ASK YOU WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION MAKE THE DECISION AND THINK ABOUT THE HISTORY THAT HAS BEEN FORGOTTEN THE HISTORY THAT WE ARE TRYING PRESERVE AND THE PEOPLE WHO DIED FOR ALL OF US TO ENJOY THIS GREAT LAND WE CALL SAINT HELENA ISLAND TODAY I THANK YOU JOHN JENKINS . I THINK IT'S JENKINS.

THANKS VERY CHAIRMAN MEMBERS PLANNING COMMISSION MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION NAME IS CYNTHIA JENKINS AND I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HISTORIC FOUNDATION AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK Y'ALL ARE DOING TONIGHT AND LISTENING TO ALL THESE COMMENTS. I'VE LEARNED A LOT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME BUT.

I LEARNED A LOT TONIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TROUBLES ME A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THIS FIRST OF ALL, WE DID SEND A LETTER BUT I'M NOT GOING TO ABOUT THE LETTER BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY THINGS THAT TONIGHT THAT ACTUALLY TROUBLED ME.

ZONING ESTABLISHES PARAMETERS FOR DEVELOPMENT I'VE NEVER MET A DEVELOPER IN 48 YEARS OF DOING HISTORIC PRESERVATION THAT THOUGHT THEY GOT ENOUGH THAT WHAT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO BUILD OR DO WAS ENOUGH IF WE KNOW LOCALLY ESTABLISH STRONG ZONING PARAMETERS WE WILL LOSE CAMP. WE ARE FIGHTING IT EVERY DAY FOR OUR ARCHITECTURAL HERITAGE AND WE GOT TO CONTINUE THAT FIGHT. ZONING IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THE LAND AREA AND THEN APPLY THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ON THAT LAND THAT SUITS IT.

THAT MEANS WHAT'S IT? THAT'S PART OF THE HISTORY OF THE ONE.

YEAH I HEARD SOMEONE SAY AND I HAD THE SORT OF LAST SOMEBODY ME WHY A GATED COMMUNITY A GOLF COURSE OR A RESORT WOULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT SINGLE HOW MANY GOLF COURSES RESORTS ARE GATED COMMUNITIES WERE HISTORICALLY UNSEEN HOW ABOUT NOT NOW THE FIRST GOLF COURSE IN AMERICA WAS IN CHARLESTON IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE EARLY 18TH CENTURY ALONG MONTAGUE GEORGE STREETS BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE WAS NOT A GOLF COURSE EVER BUILT ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND THERE'S CERTAIN ONE ONE IN VALLEY UNTIL THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY.

SO WE MUST SURE THAT WHEN WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT SETS STRICT PARAMETERS WE RESPECT, WE TAKE TIME TO STUDY IT. WE DON'T TURN SAID SOMETHING ABOUT TIMING TONIGHT ANOTHER THING I'VE LEARNED IN BEING AN OVERLY IS THAT ALL THE BIG PROJECTS IT GETS PRESENTED TO COUNTY BOARDS CITY BOARDS EITHER THE WEEK JULY THE FOURTH OR RIGHT AROUND CHRISTMAS THIS NEVER FAILS. SO THIS ALSO SURPRISING TO ME THAT IT TOOK 2 HOURS AND 30 MINUTES FOR ANYBODY TO MENTION PRE-HISTORY AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF PARTS OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND THAT I AM TOLD BY MUCH SMARTER HISTORIANS THAN I AM.

HOW VERY SOME OF THOSE AREAS ARE TO NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY AND PARTICULARLY SAINT HELENA VILLE NOT ONE PERSON TONIGHT NOBODY FROM THE COUNTY EVEN MENTIONED THE FACT THAT THERE IS A NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK ONE OF THE FIRST THREE NATIONAL LANDMARKS ESTABLISHED IN SOUTH CAROLINA THAT YOU KNOW, THE BILL IS ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC AS AN ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE. THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT YOU DECIDE TONIGHT WILL AFFECT THE REST OF SAINT AND WHEN I FIRST CAME BACK TO BEAUFORT THREE YEARS AGO AT LEAST 50 PEOPLE SAID DO NOT BEAUFORT BECOME CHARLESTON. IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT GENERATION HAS BE FOR KING JUST LIKE WE GET TO ENJOY AND HAVE

[02:45:04]

EVERYBODY HE'S TALKING ABOUT LET ME JUST SAY THIS 50 YEARS AGO 60 YEARS AGO UNDER THE GUISE OF CONSERVATION AND CONSERVATION IS CONVINCED CULTURAL PRESERVATIONISTS OR HILTON HEAD THAT INDUSTRY WAS A BAD FOR THEM THAT IT WOULD DESTROY THEIR WAY OF LIFE, THEY WOULD POLLUTE RIVERS FAST FORWARD 60 YEARS THOSE PRESERVATIONIST OR THE DISSENTERS OR THOSE CULTURAL PRESERVATIONISTS ARE NO LONGER THERE AND THE RIVERS ARE POLLUTED. TODAY CONSERVATIONISTS CONSERVATION LIKE ORGANIZATIONS ARE CONVINCING CULTURAL PRESERVATION USING THE SAME PLAYBOOK, THE SAME GAME PLAN TELLING THEM THAT DEVELOPMENT IN INDUSTRY IS BAD FOR THEM. MR. CHAIRMAN RATHER I DON'T CARE IF IT'S SEATTLE WASHINGTON . I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S IF IT'S PART OF NEW YORK.

I DON'T CARE IT'S INCLUSIONARY ZONING, CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AND CULTURAL OVERLAY DISTRICT WHICH IS A FANCY FOR HERITAGE ZONE HAS NOT WORKED IN THE BEST INTEREST INDIGENOUS PEOPLE, POOR WHITES AND PEOPLE. I DON'T CARE WHAT PART OF THE COUNTRY THAT YOU IMPLEMENT THESE THINGS AND THAT'S DOCUMENTED. YOU CAN RESEARCH IT.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M SAYING I, I CHALLENGE ANYBODY TO CHALLENGE ME ON THAT.

OKAY MOST OF US IN THIS ROOM WOULD BE DEAD AND GONE PROBABLY THE NEXT 1020 YEARS BUT WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE SAME ARGUMENT. WE'LL BE HAVING THE SAME ARGUMENT AND THE POPULATION THE DV, THE DESCENDANTS OF AMERICAN SLAVES ALSO HELENA ISLAND THAT POPULATION NUMBERS WILL BE DIMINISHED BECAUSE OF THIS EXCLUSION THERE IS GOING THESE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AND THIS HERITAGE OR, THIS CULTURAL OVERLAY DISTRICT OKAY THE REASON WHY PEOPLE AREN'T UP IN ARMS ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE I'M MEAN I WANT TO TALK FRANKLY IT BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE HAVE THIS AND HAVE BASICALLY SHACKLED THEMSELVES WITH THIS TYPE OF ZONING TO THEIR DETRIMENT 2030 YEARS FROM NOW TEN, 20, 30 YEARS FROM NOW WE WILL BE FACED WITH THIS SAME PROBLEM AND THIS SAME ISSUE. LOOK AT GUATEMALA CHARLOTTE NEAR CHARLESTON 90% OF IT IS UNDER CONSERVATION. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GET PEOPLE OF OF A LOT OF OTHER ISLAND? THEY'RE GONE.

YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING BECAUSE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND THIS FORM OF ZONING IS AS A PLANNING TO THESE PEOPLE HAVE SHACKLED THEMSELVES TO THEIR DETRIMENT.

THANK YOU THANK YOU JAMES SMALLS. JAMES SMALLS GENERAL OF GENERAL I JUST WANT TO HAVE A GOOD EVENING. I CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME YOUR NAME JAMES SMALLS? YES, JAMES SMALLS LIVE AT 31 MLK DRIVES ELLIS ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA BEEN OVER 75 YEARS. I JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS I ABOUT ALL OF VIETNAM IN 1966 IN NO I WENT TO HILTON HEAD LOOKING FOR A JOB BEFORE I WENT

[02:50:08]

WE USED TO RIDE THE SCHOOL BUS ON EASTER GOING TO THE BEACH ONE OF THE NOTHING.

THEN FROM 1969 UNTIL NOW AND THE OLD PEOPLE FROM HILTON HEAD BRAXTON HOW DO YOU FEEL WHAT HAPPENED? SOMEBODY GOT IT STARTED A DEVELOPMENT ALL THOSE PEOPLE NOT EVEN SUITABLE GOING TAXES PEOPLE SENDING CHECKS IN THE MAIL SIGN THIS CHECK I GET THEM WE TALK ABOUT LOVE WE PEOPLE CERTAINLY JUST YOU SIGN THIS CHECK WHY DID YOU SIGN A CHECK FOR $1,000 THAT THEY PUT ON IT GOT TO OH THEY GOT YOUR LAND OH WE COULD GET YOUR LAND OH WE WILL GET YOUR LAND OH WE PAY YOU LIVE WITH YOU AND YOU HAD SAY THAT WE DIDN'T BRING CASH SEE HIM DATE ALL KIND OF THING PEOPLE CALLING FROM TENNESSEE TRYING TO GET ON TO HOLLAND ISLAND. I WAS UP IN POINT TOM FOR FAMILY MY FAMILY GOT 23 ACRES OF LAND NO. AND YOU ASKED ME TO GIVE UP THAT CULTURE GIVE UP EVERYTHING WE GO ON PLEASE CALL INDIAN HILL PEOPLE STILL FIND OUT HERE IT'S A DIFFERENT STUFF THERE BUT THEN YOU WERE TELLING ME YOU WANT TO BUILD ALL OVER THIS.

WELL, IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE GOT FIGHTING TO MAINTAIN THEIR FAMILIES CEMETERY SOMEBODY THAT'S PUSHING UP I'LL BUILD ME A HOUSE. IT WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT HAPPENED? PEOPLE DON'T CARE IF I LIVE IN A WELL I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M ABOUT TO COMPLAIN I'M A GULF COAST. WHAT ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE WHO TOLD WHERE THEY'RE GOING IT? WOULD YOU GOING TO LET ME DO ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL SAY FIRST YOU KNOW I LIVE IN ARABIA IN A WAR I MEAN THERE'S A WE A SHOW A MOVIE TO THE TRUTH AS A STAND BEFORE GO BACK OUT IN THE FIELD I GUESS WHO GET ON IT? MY GRANDMA MAMA DOING A SHOW AT PENN CENTER AND THEY GOT A MOVIE WANTED TO GO GET YOU COME TO SAUDI ARABIA AND YOU'RE GOING TO TELL THEM WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT THE REST OF OUR LIVES .

THEY WE WILL BUILD A GOLF COURSE. YOU KNOW WHAT? NO THANK YOU THANK SO THAT'S THAT'S AN END TO THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR INPUT. NOW I'M TURNING THIS OVER BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION AND ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE.

YOU KNOW COMMENTS DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ISSUE? I MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT THE CHANGES PROPOSED TO THE CPA. I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND OF THREE DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION TO WORK IS WHETHER YOU APPROVE OR RECOMMEND THE WORDING YOU TO RESTATE THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO OKAY SO MY MOTION IS TO NOT APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE CPA.

HOPEFULLY THIS WELL SO WHAT YOU OUGHT TO DO HERE IS RECOMMENDING TO COUNTY COUNCIL WHETHER RECOMMEND THE CHANGES NOT THIS GENTLEMAN AS OUR ATTORNEY THE COMMISSION ATTORNEY RIGHT SO FOR THE RECORD THE MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND NOT ACCEPTING THE CHANGES THAT THAT WE'RE ALL RIGHT WITH AND PROPOSED BY STAFF I PROPOSED THAT

[02:55:11]

I'VE GOT TO COMMENT ON THAT. I MY REASON FOR OBJECTING THIS RECOMMENDATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM I THINK STAFF DID WHAT THEY BELIEVE WAS RIGHT. THEY BELIEVE THEY SAW WHAT THEY SEE TO BE A PROBLEM. I WANT AND EXPECT THEM DO THAT THIS MY OBJECTION TO THIS LANGUAGE NOTHING TO DO WITH STAFF'S EFFORT, THEIR WORK OR ANYTHING THAT THEY WERE INVOLVED WITH YET I THINK THEY THE RIGHT THING AS THEY SAW FIT WHEN THEY DID THAT I THINK I MADE VERY CLEAR FROM THE BEGINNING WHY I AM NOT SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT AS ITS LANGUAGE SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED IT. I THINK THAT LAW AS WRITTEN AS THE 20 YEARS I DID WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO FOR 20 YEARS AS THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN IT BACK THEN AND PROVED IT BACK THEN. I THINK ONCE WE START TINKERING WITH THIS THING YOU'LL BE HERE TILL THE COWS COME HOME. YOU THINK IT'S LATE NOW AT 9:00 AT NIGHT YOU'LL BE HERE FOREVER . WHY DON'T YOU START TINKERING WITH THIS? SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I FEEL STAFF OR DIDN'T DO. AND THAT'S NO DISRESPECT BUT YOU KNOW I KNOW THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO THIS SO I'M NOT IT'S NOT A PROBLEM I HAVE NO I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT I THINK THIS SATISFIES THE NEED THE PURPOSE I READ THE PURPOSE AND I'M FINE IT DOESN'T STOP THERE FURTHER COMMENTS I'D LIKE FOR ONE COMMENT SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE STARTED A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS OF REBUILDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE LEARNED VERY QUICKLY WE HAD SEVERAL YEARS AGO A LOT OF EFFORT WENT INTO DEVELOPING THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE FOUND OUT LATE IN THAT PROCESS THAT WE WEREN'T GETTING ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT WOULD GET THE VOICE OF ALL THE PEOPLE WE MADE A SPECIAL EFFORT TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT BELIEF IS YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT AN SCHOOL AND WHEN I FIND OUT THAT THERE'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS VERY CRITICAL ISSUE WITH THE CPO COMMITTEE I WONDER WHAT'S GOING ON WHY WERE THEY OVERLOOKED REALLY THEY WERE IDENTIFIED AS AN AUTHORITY IN ASSIGNING PEOPLE TO THE CPA COMMITTEE AND AS IN SUPPORTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO I FOUND THAT TO NOT BE BEHAVIOR THAT IN ANY FURTHER ANALYSIS BACK TO THE CPO COMMITTEE AND THE APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS IN THE COUNTY THEY CAN THOROUGHLY LOOK AT THIS ISSUE TO THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTY.

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BECAUSE EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THE AND THE THESE ARE SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THIS WHOLE MEETING OF ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS VERY FIRST AND WE'VE HAD MANY AND THEN IN A MOTION SEGMENT SO LET WE ASK FOR A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT AS BY MS.. MCMILLAN YES AND THOSE AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF INCLUDING THAT LANGUAGE. OKAY.

THE UNANIMOUS NOW TO THE MAIN MOTION YOU HAVE THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO NOT RECOMMEND THIS IS A MOTION AS A MOTION AS AMENDED AND WE'VE HAD THAT SECONDED PLANS FOR A VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR THE MOTION ON THE THAT WAS MADE BY MR. HEADLEE IS YOUR IT'S UNANIMOUS THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS HISTORY LESSON FOR ME I'VE BEEN VISITING THE PERSON THROUGH SENIOR LEADERSHIP PROGRAM AND YOU'VE TAUGHT ME SOMETHING I DIDN'T KNOW.

WE NEED TO MOVE FOR NOW. ED WE HAVE WE HAVE ONE MORE PIECE WE HAVE ONE MORE PIECE OF BUSINESS AMONG OURSELVES YOU WANT. YOU CAN NEED TO DELAY THE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE. ALL RIGHT NOW I KNOW. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GO FOR THE WORDS OR YOUR MOTION TO ADJOURN. YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT NEXT TIME, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THE ELECTION FOR HERE I'M GOING TO TAKE IT FIRST TO THE LAST YEAR. OKAY.

BUT IF FIVE 1:00 I JUST MAYBE I HOPE BECAUSE ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE

[10. VOTE ON PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR FOR 2023]

[03:05:02]

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. I NEED A YES.

ALL RIGHT, YOU TAKE ONE RIGHT THERE. ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFOR

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.