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THESE GENTLEMEN WE'RE GOING TO START THE MEETING NOW PERMANENT HOUR WE WOULD START WITH A CALL ORDER AND THEN WE START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IF YOU WOULD.
I SUPPOSE WE MAY LIKE A LITTLE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO HEAR ABOUT WOULD YOU SAY ONE NATION UNDER INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL THANK YOU YASMEEN.
ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE? THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT? YES, SIR.
ON THIS MEETING. THANK YOU. ME? WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? OF COURSE MR. DARE AND SO HERE MR. SIEBEL YOU'RE THE HANDS HERE CAMPBELL HERE SCANLON HERE MR. NEAL IS EXCUSE OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY STAFF CHANGES TO THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING I'M GOING TO MAKE ONE SUGGESTION THAT I WANT TO MOVE UP ONE ITEM THAT'S A LITTLE LATE ON THE AGENDA. I WANT TO MOVE IT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE, WE HAVE A LOT OF CITIZENS WHO WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT IT. THAT WOULD BE THE STAFF REPORT THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE HILTON HEAD PROJECT OVER AT FALL OF THE FALL. I FEEL ROAD IN WHOEVER WE CAN COURT I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE AGENDA IT ALL COME RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST ALAMO AMENDMENTS AND IT WILL BE BEFORE THE SECOND ALAMO MEMBERS SO I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT CHANGED AGENDA AND ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT CHANGE PLEASE IN THE IDENTIFY BY RAISING RIGHT OKAY THAT'S UNANIMOUS WILL CHANGE THE AGENDA IN THAT ORDER LET'S SEE WE HAVE THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING OF NOVEMBER THE 16TH. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT SO MOVED SO MOVED TO A SECOND SECOND FROM MR. CAMPBELL ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING IT'S UNANIMOUS FIVE NOTHING VOTE ON THAT NEXT IS THE APPEARANCE OF ASSERTIONS DO WE YES WHEN DO WE HAVE ANY APPEARANCES BY CITIZENS FOR TODAY I'M SORRY WE DON'T WE DO NOT. OKAY AND FOR THE RECORD DID WE RECEIVE PORTAL COMMENTS AND I KNOW WE DID BECAUSE I'VE BEEN READING FOR THE LAST HOUR, SIR. WE DID? YES WE GET LOTS OF PORTAL COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY. THERE IS NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS SO LET'S MOVE A NEW BUSINESS IF WE WILL AND I'M GOING TO CALL ON THE MSI TO START US OFF WITH THE ALAMO AMENDMENTS SECTION A HERE TODAY. THANK YOU MITZI LOU, COMMUNITY PLANNING MANAGER FOR THE RECORD I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ISLANDER MIXED USE AMENDMENT PROPOSAL. THIS REQUEST IS FROM JOSH TILLER OF JC TILLER ASSOCIATES FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW A NEW USE TO BE ESTABLISHED CALLED ISLANDER MIXED USE.
IT'S PROPOSED TO BE ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE SEA PINES CIRCLE DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSAL ADDS A DEFINITION IT ESTABLISHES YOU SPECIFIC CONDITIONS AND SOME EXCEPTIONS THE DEVELOPMENT FORM STANDARDS SO BEFORE YOU AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS IN THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE 16 3-105M SEA PINE CIRCLE DISTRICT 16 4-102A PRINCIPAL USES 16 410 TO BE USE SPECIFIC AND 1610 103A USE CLASSIFICATIONS USE TYPES AND DEFINITIONS SO IT STAFF'S BEFORE YOU THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THIS AMENDMENT FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION ON TO TOWN COUNCIL SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH FIRST WHAT THE REQUEST IS AND THEN GO THROUGH THE STAFF ANALYSIS OF THAT REQUEST.
SO BASED ON WHAT WAS BEFORE YOU AND PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT IT STARTS WITH THE CREATION OF A NEW USE AND THAT USE AGAIN IS CALLED MIXED USE AND THE DEFINITION THAT'S PROPOSED IS THAT IT INCLUDES TWO OR MORE USES THAT INCLUDE ISLANDERS MIXED USE AND EITHER AN OFFICE USE OR COMMERCIAL SERVICE USE AS WELL AS IT ALLOWS DORMITORY GROUP LIVING USE WITHIN THE DEFINITION THAT'S PROPOSED AGAIN THIS REQUEST IS THAT IT'S WITHIN THE SEA PINE CIRCLE DISTRICT AND THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USE 1.5 PARKING SPACES PER DWELLING
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UNIT AND THEN FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL USE ONE PER 500 OF GROSS FLOOR AREA.SO THIS USE IS PROPOSED TO BE PERMITTED WITH CONDITIONS AND THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ARE OUTLINED HERE ON THIS SLIDE. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING THE USE TO BE ALLOWED THAT THE USE WOULD ALLOW A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT RIGHT NOW USE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT ALLOW SHARED PARKING AGREEMENTS SO THEY'RE PROPOSING A USE SPECIFIC CONDITION THAT WOULD ALLOW SHARED PARKING PLANS TO BE UTILIZED WITH THIS USE THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO PROPERTIES WITHIN 500 FEET OF AN EDUCATION USE AND ALSO THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT THIS USE WOULD NOT BE A SHORT TERM RENTAL AS DEFINED IN OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE WHICH IS A PROPERTY THAT'S RENTED FOR 30 DAYS OR LESS. SO THIS USE ALSO HAS DEVELOPMENT FORM STANDARD EXCEPTIONS THAT PROPOSING ONE IS THAT IT HAS UNDEFINED SO AN EXCEPTION TO THE DENSITY LIMIT LIMITS WITHIN THE SEA PINES CIRCLE DISTRICT BUT THAT THOSE WOULD BE DEFINED BY THE DESIGN AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND ALSO IT'S PROPOSED TO HAVE IN HEIGHT EXCEPTION TO HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 55 FEET IN THE SEA PINES CIRCLE DISTRICT ABOUT 45 FEET. NOW I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE STAFF ANALYSIS OF REQUEST. SO CERTAINLY THE USE TO ISLANDERS MIXED USE TO HAVE MIXED USE MIX OF RESIDENTIAL IS WORTHY OF REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION CURRENTLY MIXED USE A USE THAT'S ALLOWED WITHIN THE SEA PINE CIRCLE DISTRICT IT HAS A DENSITY LIMITATION OF 12 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND 10,000 GROSS FLOOR AREA FOR NON RESIDENTIAL AND AGAIN MIXED USE CURRENTLY DOES NOT ALLOW THE INCLUSION OF A SHARED PARKING PLAN FOR RESIDENTIAL SO OF COURSE THAT'S HOW THIS DIFFERS FROM THE MIXED USE THAT IS ALLOWED IN THE SEA PINE CIRCLE DISTRICT. SO ISLANDERS MIXED USE INCLUDES AGAIN IN THE USE TYPE TWO OR MORE USES WHICH WILL INCLUDE ISLAND OR MIXED USE AND THEN OFFICE USE OR COMMERCIAL SERVICES USE AND ALSO ALLOWS GROUP LIVING DORMITORY. SO FOR GROUP LIVING GROUP LIVING IS CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED IN THE SEA CIRCLE DISTRICT GROUP LIVING DORMITORY USE AS PART OF THE USE DEFINITION THAT'S PROPOSED AS PROPOSED THERE IS NOT A USE MIXED RATIO SO AS PROPOSED SAY ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WAS PROPOSED AS PART OF ISLANDERS MIXED USE COULD BE GROUP LIVING DORMITORY USE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF IS REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER IS THAT PERHAPS A MAXIMUM PORTION OF GROUP LIVING DORMITORY THAT WOULD BE APPLIED TO THIS PARTICULAR NEW USE AND IF IF YOU WERE LOOKING TO DO SO IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THE USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS SO THE DENSITY FOR THE PROPOSED USE IS UNDEFINED. SO AGAIN THAT DENSITY WOULD BE DEFINED MORE BY THE DEVELOPMENT FORM STANDARDS LIKE HEIGHT PARKING LOT COVERAGE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS BE HOW THE FORM OF THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD WOULD HAVE SOME PARAMETERS APPLIED TO IT. THE ONLY OTHER DISTRICT IN OUR CODE THAT HAS UNDEFINED DENSITY IS THE LIGNE RESORT DISTRICT AND THAT AREA IS DEFINED BY THOSE SAME FORM STANDARDS.
SO AGAIN THAT AS THE DENSITY IS UNDEFINED AND STAFF HAS TALKED ABOUT IT IN PRIOR MEETINGS WITH THE ALAMO COMMITTEE WE LOOKING THAT THAT UNDEFINED DENSITY BE TIED TO A WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT IN SOME WAY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WOULD BE TO CONSIDER ADDING A USE SPECIFIC CONDITION THAT REQUIRED A PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTIAL TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING WITHIN SOME ARMY RANGE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 60 AND 120% AS AN EXAMPLE AND THEN TIED TO SOME SORT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENT AND WE HAVE AGREEMENT LANGUAGE WITHIN THE CODE ALREADY COULD FOLLOW SOME TEMPLATE OR FORM PER WORKFORCE HOUSING STANDARDS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ESTABLISHED.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE THING TO CONSIDER AS YOU REVIEW THIS PROPOSAL AGAIN THE PARKING THE PROPOSAL AGAIN IS FOR A 1.5 SPACES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND ONE PER 500 FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL AND AS WELL AS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE ALLOWANCE THAT IT CAN ACCOMMODATE A SHARED PARKING PLAN. SO WE DO ALLOW SHARED PARKING PLANS FOR A VARIETY OF OTHER USES HOWEVER NOT MIXED USE AND IT HAS IN THE SHARED PARKING
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SECTION QUITE A FEW REQUIREMENTS FOR A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT.IT CAN ONLY FOR UP TO 50% OF THE PARKING SPACES ONLY IF THOSE USES GENERATE PARKING DEMANDS DURING DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY OR DAYS OF THE WEEK THERE'S REQUIREMENTS FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND THAT THE APPLICANT REQUIRES AND THEY PROVIDE THE JUSTIFICATION AND OF THAT THE NEED AND HOW THEY MEET THE PARKING DEMANDS AT THE DIFFERING TIMES OF THE DAY AND THEN THAT AGREEMENT IS IS REVIEWED BY ALL THE PARTIES THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THAT PARKING AGREEMENT OR SHARED PARKING ARRANGEMENT AND THEN IT GETS RECORDED WITH THE REGISTER OF DEEDS SO SO IF IF IT WOULD MEET SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT A SHARED PARKING PLAN SEEMS TO BE REASONABLE. SO THE PROPOSAL ALSO HAS IT'S PROPOSED TO BE WITHIN 500 FEET OF AN EDUCATION USE WE FOUND THROUGH LOOKING AT WHAT BIKING AND WALKING TOLERANCES ARE THAT IT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO WALK OR BIKE BETWEEN 501,500 FEET AND WE INCLUDED A MAP WITHIN THE PACKET THE HOT PINK IS THE AND CIRCLE DISTRICT AND THEN THERE'S A 500 FOOT RADIUS A THOUSAND FOOT RADIUS AND A 1500 FOOT RADIUS BASED ON THE WALKING AND BIKING TOLERANCES WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE USE BE EXPANDED TO UP TO A THOUSAND FEET TO MEET THOSE WALKING AND BIKING TOLERANCES IT KEEPS MOST THE ELIGIBLE AREA TO BE SOUTH OF THE CITY CIRCLE DISTRICT AND THEN IT ELIMINATES THE APPEARANCE THAT IT COULD BE CONSIDERED ZONING BECAUSE IT WOULD ACCOMMODATE SOME ADDITIONAL PARCELS THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO TO UTILIZE THIS USE. SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS THAT THERE ARE 23 PARCELS WITHIN 500 FEET THERE ARE 34 PARCELS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET AND 49 PARCELS WITHIN 1500 FEET. SO THE HEIGHT AS PROPOSED THEY'RE LOOKING A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 55 FEET AND OF COURSE THE HEIGHT LIMIT FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN KEY POINT CIRCLE DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY 45 FEET. WE WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER KEEPING THE 45 FEET SUCH THAT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN ALL OF THE CITY POINT CIRCLE DISTRICT IS WITHIN THAT HEIGHT LIMITATION. SO THAT WRAPS UP MY ANALYSIS IT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT TEAM ALSO WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT SO I CAN TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOW OR WITH YOUR PERMISSION MISSY I THINK WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND THEN WE'LL DO QUESTIONS ALL AROUND. SOUNDS GREAT.
HELLO. MY NAME'S LOUIS HAMMOND. I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT JOSH TAYLOR WHO WORKED CLOSELY WITH PUTTING A LOT OF THIS TOGETHER IS OUT WITH THE CODY BUT WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE BEEN INTEGRAL TO THIS MYSELF THE PRINCIPAL DAVID HAS BEEN IN AND OTHERS ALAN WOLF IS HERE FROM SEARCH GROUP. I JUST WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF OVERVIEW THINGS THAT WEREN'T TOUCHED DOWN IN THE STAFF WE WEREN'T TOUCHTONE TO THE FROM THE ANGLE THAT WE DO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS DEVELOPER PUT TOGETHER IN CLOSE CONSULTATION WITH US. CB THEY NEED HOUSING AND THIS DEVELOPER AGREED TO PROVIDE IT THE REASON IT WANTS TO BE SHARED HOUSING IS WE ALREADY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH UCB FOR 75 SHARED SPACES THAT WE CAN USE THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN PROBABLY ANYTHING ELSE THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU AND FRANKLY IT MAKES THE THE DENSITY STANDARDS SORT OF IRRELEVANT FOR OUR SITE IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH PARKING RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND SO MUCH FUNCTIONING WITH THERE BUT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH AND AL WOLF HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH US THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS FROM CONCEPT UNTIL WE'VE ARRIVED HERE HE AND HE'S RIGHT HE'S THE HEAD OF LARGEST EMPLOYER ON THE ISLAND AND AS YOU ALL KNOW BETTER THAN I THAT'S A BIG A BIG CONCERN PARTICULARLY THE SOUTH END OF THE AL AND WHAT TRYING TO DO IS PUT TOGETHER SOME HOUSING CAN BE USED BY SERVICE INDUSTRY WORKERS AND SERVICE INDUSTRY I MEAN THAT THERE'S MORE THAN JUST AND WAITRESSES IT MIGHT BE ASSISTANT MANAGER TELLERS BANKS IF ANYTHING IN THE INDUSTRY PEOPLE THAT NEED LIVE DOWN HERE CAN'T IN THEIR HAVING COMMUTE THEY CAN'T THERE'S SOME THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK THAT YOU'VE HEARD TO ASK TO CONSIDER DOING
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SOME WORKFORCE HOUSING RENT SUBSIDY RENT RESTRICTED WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE THING IT REALLY DOESN'T WORK WITH AS WELL IN THE PLAN TO KEEPING TRACK OF IT AND HAVING TO YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK EVERY MONTH TO SEE WHO'S STILL WORKING AND WHO'S NOT AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE MAKING.DO WE GO BY HOW MUCH A SERVICE WORKER HAS ON HIS W-2 OR HOW MUCH A DEBATE HOW MUCH IS TIPS? ARE WITH THEM? YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE TOWN WOULD POLICE OR WANT US TO POLICE BUT MORE THAN THAT THEY'RE FOR OR BEEN TALKING ABOUT MAYBE MAYBE LET'S LOOK 10 TO 20%. WELL THE ONLY WAY WE ACHIEVE CHANGE 20% EVEN IF THIS DEVELOPER COULD PUT THAT TOGETHER IS TO RAISE THE PRICE OF THE 80 TO 90% OF UNITS WHICH WE WANT TO DO. WE'VE AGREED TO LIMIT SHORT TERM RENTALS. IT WON'T BE ANY SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THE TOWN HAS ALREADY THAT IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST PROBLEM ON SOUTH END OF THE ISLAND WE'RE ELIMINATING THAT PLUS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IT IS YOU ALL KNOW DOWN OFFICE WAY THERE IS TUCKED IN RIGHT NEXT THE SCHOOL WITH MAJOR SERVICE INDUSTRY GROUPS, BAR GROUPS THINGS LIKE THAT SURROUNDING IT AND SO WE SEE THAT AS BEING A MAJOR MAJOR PART OF OUR MARKET.
WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING ONLY TO THAT BECAUSE ONCE YOU BUILD IT YOU CAN'T GET FINANCE TO IT IF YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE UNITS VACANT BUT OUR TARGET MARKET AND WE'RE WORKING WITH MAJOR EMPLOYERS TO BRING PEOPLE IN TO THAT TARGET MARKET JUST AS AN ASIDE IS I THINK YOU ALL KNOW RIGHT THIS IS A LARGELY ABANDONED AND SOMEWHAT DILAPIDATED OFFICE SITE WITH A LOT OF A LOT SPACE ON IT. THIS WOULD REPLACE THAT BUT UNDERGOES ORDINANCES THAT CAN BE REDEVELOPED BY RIGHT AND WE'VE HAD THE TRAFFIC PEOPLE LOOK AT IT AND I DO A FULL TRAFFIC STUDY BUT JUST LOOK AT THE ANTI MANUAL ON WHAT TRIP GENERATION OUR PROPOSAL WOULD BE COMPARED TO DOING ALL THAT OFFICE COMMERCIAL AND AND WE'RE TOLD THAT AT PEAK HOURS IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE TRAFFIC WITH THE OFFICE COMMERCIAL WHICH IS BY RIGHT USE THEN WHAT WE'RE DOING WE THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ACTUALLY A REDUCTION IN THE IMPACT THIS DEVELOPMENT UM AGAIN WE WORK VERY CLOSELY BOTH UCB AND THESE FIRM THESE THESE MEMBERS OF THE EMPLOYMENT COMMUNITY AND TRIED TO COME UP WITH THE THING WE THINK WORKS BEST WE DON'T WE RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE 500 FEET FROM OUR SITE TO AN EDUCATIONAL BECAUSE WE WERE 500 FEET I DON'T WE HAVE ANY OBJECTION IF THE TOWN WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW THAT DISTRICT TO BE IN A THOUSAND FOOT OR A 1500 FOOT IT WOULD INCLUDE OTHER PROPERTIES YOU KNOW WE DRAFTED IT TO INCLUDE OURS SO THAT'S REALLY NOT A PROBLEM I DON'T THINK ON HEIGHT LIMITATION WE WANT TO GO FROM 255 FROM 44 THAT DOES NOT ADD ANOTHER STORY TO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH OUR DESIGN PEOPLE BOTH ARCHITECTS AND AND MR. TAYLOR AND OTHERS. I'D SAY AT 55 FEET WE CAN DESIGN BETTER PRODUCT. WE DON'T HAVE TO BE JUST EIGHT FOOT CEILINGS.
WE HAVE A LITTLE HIGHER CEILING IN SOME PLACES WE CAN DO ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES FOR ESTHETIC PURPOSES. THE JOBS ORDINANCE USED TO ALLOW GOING THROUGH A PROCESS THAT I DON'T THINK IT DOES NOW . SO THAT'S THE SORT OF THING WE WANT TO DO IS BUILD A BETTER PROJECT THAT DOES TRANSLATE INTO MORE DENSITY OR MORE INTENSITY JUST FOR A BETTER PRODUCT. AGAIN THIS WAS MENTIONED TOO THAT WE WANT TO BE RULED BY PERFORMANCE STANDARDS RATHER THAN A FIXED DENSITY WHEN IT COMES TO THE SITE IT'S WE'VE GOT IN CALGARY RIGHT NEXT DOOR ANOTHER INTENSE DISTRICT THAT IT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH AS FAR AS USING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WE THINK IS PARTICULARLY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE BECAUSE SO MUCH OF OUR PARKING IS OFFSITE TO THE SHARED ARRANGEMENT WITH UCB FOR WHOM WE'RE PROVIDING SOME HOUSING.
SO I THINK THAT MAKES IT PARTICULARLY APPROPRIATE THAT WE DO IT DO IT THAT WAY.
GEE IF YOU DO CALCULATE THE DENSITY ON OUR SITE IF YOU HAD THAT 75 ADDITIONAL SPACES ROOM
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FOR THAT PLUS THE THE LANDSCAPED MEDIANS STUFF THAT GOES WITH THE PARKING SPACES, THE OPEN SPACE THAT GOES WITH THE SETBACKS THAT GO WITH THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY MORE WE LIKE GOING BY THE STANDARD BECAUSE YOU HAVE PRETTY STRICT STANDARDS ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT SINCE THE DAY WE WERE INCORPORATED WITH SETBACK STORMWATER.THOSE WERE TWO OF THE THINGS WE PUT FIRST IN THE NEW ORDINANCE WAS STORMWATER.
THOSE THINGS ARE SERIOUS RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT YOU CAN DO SO THIS IS NOT UNLIMITED DENSITY JUST GIVES US THE ABILITY TO PLAN WITHIN THE STANDARDS YOU'VE ALREADY ADOPTED. I WANT TO AND I'M GOING TO HAVE ALAN WOLFE AND SURGE GROUP SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE SERVING THAT SERVICE WORKER MARKET IN NON SHORT SHORT TERM PRODUCT IS SUCH A BIG PART OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO. I WANT HIM TO SAY A THING TWO.
I'M NOT SURE IF I MISSED ANY POINT. THE JUDGE WANT ME TO ADDRESS.
IF SO I'D BE HERE. YES, WE MAY TAKE QUESTIONS FOR YOU MAY HAVE SOME FOR YOU LATER ON IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT OF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THE COLLEGE? YEAH.
YEAH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ALLEN WOLFE SURGE RESTAURANT GROUP.
I THINK LOU LAID IT OUT PRETTY CLEARLY. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS WAS OVER A YEAR AGO THAT THE DEVELOPER APPROACHED US AT THE SURGE RESTAURANT GROUP TO.
SEE IF WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME DORMITORY HOUSING ON THE SOUTH END AND WE SAID PLEASE WAIT AND PUT THE RIGHT PRODUCT AND THAT PRODUCT WOULD SERVE MORE THAN JUST THEIR LIVING AND THIS IS A TREMENDOUS OUTCOME I THINK A YEAR LATER OF WORKING WITH THE TOWN STAFF AND DEVELOPERS SURGE IS FINALLY PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS. WE WERE INVESTED IN THE PRODUCT AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN HELP SOLVE THIS PROBLEM OF WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THIS IS JUST A VERY SMALL FIRST STEP AND WE'RE WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE THEY'RE NOT THERE ANY OTHER APPLICANT SPOKESPEOPLE PERSONS? NO I WOULD RECOGNIZE WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE TEAM FROM THE UCB SIDE THAT ARE HERE AND ANXIOUS TO HEAR IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT. I WOULD JUST TOUCH ON THE ONE POINT THAT LOU MADE ABOUT THE HEIGHT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO A PEAKED AT 55 FEET NOT A FLAT ROOF FOR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARD. SO AS TO HIS POINT THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL HOUSING ON ANOTHER LEVEL IT WAS JUST FOR ARCHITECTURAL PURPOSES UP WE'LL START WITH MR. HIM SO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. FIRST OF ALL HOW DID COME UP WITH EITHER THE MIXED USE? WELL I THINK IT STARTED OFF AS SERVICE WORKER MIXED USE AND KNOW I THINK IT WAS IT NEEDED TO BE A WIDER NET THIS ISN'T FOR JUST BARTENDERS, WAITRESSES, BUMS LIKE ME BUT IT'S FOR FIREFIGHTERS AND TEACHERS AND EDUCATORS AND EVERYONE THAT IF EXACTLY IT'S FOR THE ISLANDER GROUP. WELL I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY IN IT I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES IS CERTAINLY WORKFORCE AND I APPLAUD YOU YOU'VE BEEN A LEADER THINKING ABOUT WORKFORCE FOR SOME YEARS . IT SEEMS LIKE YOU FINALLY FINALLY GOT THE KNOCK OUT.
WE'RE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE TOWN TO TO WORK WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND DEVELOPERS FOR THIS CHALLENGE WHICH IS WORKFORCE. IT'S IT'S GREAT THAT YOU THESE WALLS AND I KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO HAVE STUDENT HOUSING THEY'RE HERE IT'S CAMPUS BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOSPITALITY IS ONE MORE MAIN INDUSTRIES HERE YOU'RE THE FOUR YOU'RE IN THAT AREA AND SO WHO'S HELPING TO POPULATE THIS BRANCH? WHAT IS THE STREET HERE? AND SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A BIG WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
I LIKE THE FACT IT IS IT'S CRITICAL THAT IT'S NOT LIKE SHORT TERM RENTALS.
IT'S FOR WORKFORCE. THE QUESTION WAS HOW DO YOU LIMIT ESCALATING SO THAT IT STAYS OR CERTAINLY WILL RAPIDLY SEEK OUT CONTRACTS WITH HOTELIERS SERVICE PROVIDERS LIKE THE GREENERY FIREFIGHTERS YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT PROVIDERS LIKE US TO SECURE LONG TERM CONTRACTS THAT WOULD AVOID ANY RESTRICT, YOU KNOW, ANY INCREASES YEAR OVER YEAR.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PRIMARY . SO OTHER KEY THINGS IT IS UPGRADING WHAT IS OLD AND UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTY SO THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT IT MAKES WATER WHAT'S WHAT'S OLD AND THAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO AROUND SHARED PARKING IS KEY
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WONDERFUL ADVANTAGE BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON IT SO YOU CAN SHARE THAT'S THAT'S JUST ANOTHER BENEFIT SO I REALLY AM EXCITED HERE IT'S GREAT GREAT THANK YOU MR. ENZO THANK YOU SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN. JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE ALAMO COMMITTEE DID REVIEW THIS LAST MONTH AND RECOMMENDED TO MOVE THAT FORWARD TO THIS LARGER BODY FOR DISCUSSION AS WE'RE DOING TODAY. ALL OF OUR CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED PERSONALLY. I THINK IT'S A VERY CLEVER AND CREATIVE APPROACH TO TO DEALING WITH THE NEED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING AND ALSO TAKING CARE OF STUDENTS NEARBY. IT'S A IT'S A PERFECT FOR THIS KIND OF THING AND AND THE WAY IT'S BEEN HANDLED IS, I BELIEVE VERY WELL DONE AS FAR AS THE STUDENTS CONCERNED.BUT THE STUDENTS BE CONSIDERED THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THE WORKFORCE IS FIRST CONSIDERED.
WELL, ACTUALLY WE HAVE 16 OF QUAD UNITS THAT ARE SET UP SPECIFICALLY FOR STUDENTS SO THAT WOULD BE SOME 64 STUDENTS THAT WOULD HAVE PRIMARY ACCESS TO THOSE YEAR ROUND.
IT'S A SEPARATE BUILDING FROM THE GENERAL APARTMENTS AND THE HOPE WOULD BE TO KEEP THEM HERE WORKING IN THE SUMMER AS WELL AND ALSO MAKE THOSE ANNUAL LEASES IF POSSIBLE.
BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'D HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. CAMPBELL. ALLEN DOESN'T LIKE THE THANK YOU AND SERVED FOR PRESENTING THIS I MEAN I DEFINITELY SEE THIS PROJECT WORKING OUT MY ONE QUESTION IS THIS HOW MANY UNITS YOU'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE SHOOTING FOR 132 SO 16 OF WHICH WOULD BE YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFIC DORMITORY UNITS. OKAY. AND 22 WITH THE SHARED PARKING I ACTUALLY IN MY HEAD I'M THINKING THAT THE KIDS AND ACTUALLY ADULTS WOULD BE RIDING BICYCLES SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL. BUT I KNOW THAT 132 THERE'S A FAIRLY STRONG OF STUDIO UNITS SO WE'RE TALKING 600 SQUARE FEET ROUGHLY.
OKAY. WHICH IS THE DESIRE FOR MORE UNITS EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME FLOOR SPACE ULTIMATELY. ALL RIGHT.
AND HOW MANY HEADS THE BEDS ARE YOU THINKING? I THINK THAT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT 266. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU AS OPPOSED TO BUY RIGHT IF WE PUT EIGHT BEDS, YOU KNOW 450 POSSIBLE.
YEAH. I JUST WANT TO GET THOSE NUMBERS BUT THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS SYMBOL ALAN. I'D ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND YOU FOR MOVING FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT AS A GOOD ME TO THANK THINGS THAT TOM HAD SAID ABOUT SOME SPACE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE SHARED PARKING. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR MISSY THOUGH IF YOU DON'T MIND. YES, SIR IT IS. ARE THERE ANY ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES SINCE THE ALAMO COMMITTEE REVIEW MATERIAL ON NOVEMBER 1ST? THE CHANGES WERE THOSE THAT THE APPLICANT TEAM AGREED TO AT THE MEETING SO THAT IS WHAT WAS OKAY. AND IN TERMS OF THE 55 FOOT HEIGHT WAIVER, CAN YOU TELL ME THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS AT THE WATER WALK AT SHELTER COVE OR THE NEW GARDINER PROJECT ON GARDINER ROAD? THOSE APARTMENT BUILDINGS DO YOU REMEMBER THE HEIGHT OF THOSE BUILDINGS? GOSH, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, NO.
I'M TRYING TO PICTURE THIS FROM SOMETHING THAT I ALREADY KNOW ABOUT BUT OKAY.
OKAY. WE CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.
THANK YOU. WELL, I WANT TO ALSO THANK THE APPLICANTS FOR THIS CREATIVE PROPOSAL. IT IS A DIFFERENT KIND ANIMAL BECAUSE HERE YOU'RE RUNNING DORMITORY SPACE FOR THE UNIVERSITY SERVICE EMPLOYEE HOUSING FOR THE ISLAND AT THE SOUTH WHICH IS HARD TO FIND AND AND I THE SHARED PARKING IS A IS A IS A GREAT IDEA GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH THE UNIVERSITY THE IDEA OF COMMITTING TO NO SHORT TERM RENTALS IS ANOTHER VERY POSITIVE THING ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL WITH REGARD TO THE DENSITY THINK WHEN YOU YOU TAKE THE DENSITY ISSUE IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMBINATION OF ALL THAT YOU'VE GOT IN THIS PROJECT INCLUDING THE ROOMS AND THEN THE APARTMENTS YEAH I DON'T KNOW THAT THE DENSITY BECOMES AN ISSUE AT LEAST NOT IN MY OPINION ON THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION WITH REGARD TO THE HEIGHT EXEMPTION OR VARIANCE WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE CALLED.
I DON'T HAVE A MAJOR ISSUE WITH THAT AS LONG AS IT'S ARCHITECT AND DOESN'T ADD ANOTHER STORY TO THE PROPOSAL BUILDINGS OR PROPOSED SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS THE DORMITORY IF I HAVE THIS CORRECT IF I DON'T IT THE DORMITORIES WILL WHAT 48 STUDENTS OR 64 STUDENTS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S AWESOME.
SO I I HAVE NO MAJOR PROBLEMS PERSONALLY WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT PROPOSED HERE, BUT I DO COMMEND YOU FOR TRYING TO KILL MORE THAN ONE BIRD WITH WITH THE STONE.
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I THINK THE TOWN STAFF RECOMMENDATION A THOUSAND FEET DIAMETER MAKES SENSE AND I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THAT FOR ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO CONSIDER THAT I WOULD AGREE. THANK YOU MISSY MAY I ASK YOU IF IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WERE TO FORWARD THIS TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH THE THE THINGS JUST MENTIONED THE SHARED PARKING SHORT TERM THE CONSIDERATION IN DENSITY THE FACT THAT THEY'RE DOING THE DORMITORY AS WELL AS THE APARTMENTS AND THE THE HEIGHT LIMITS OF 55 IS THERE ANYTHING THAT STAFF WOULD OPPOSE IN THAT? IS THERE ANYTHING THE STAFF WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM? WELL, RIGHT NOW I MEAN THE WHILE THE TITLES ISLANDERS MIXED USE AGAIN THERE'S NOTHING THAT TIES IT TO SERVING ISLANDERS OR WORKFORCE.YOU KNOW, WE HAD SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW, THAT IT MEETS SOME SORT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING PERCENTAGE THAT COULD BE A RENT CAP THAT COULD BE FAIR MARKET RENT. THERE COULD BE OTHER MECHANISMS THAT IT SERVES THE WORKFORCE SO STAFF WOULD STILL RECOMMEND THAT THERE'S SOME TIE TO IT'S ACTUALLY SERVING THE WORKFORCE THAT IT'S INTENDED TO SERVE OR THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANTS YOU HAVE IF THIS PROPOSAL WERE TO GO FORWARD AND BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT YOU'VE WORKED WITH THE VARIOUS ORGANIZING OPTIONS ON THE ISLAND THAT ARE LOOKING FOR SHELTER FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES AS A SEARCH GROUP OBVIOUSLY BEING ONE MENTIONED ALREADY ARE THERE OTHER GROUPS IN OTHER WORDS WHEN WE SAY WORKFORCE HOUSING WE'RE LOOKING FOR APARTMENTS AND UNITS THAT CAN BE AFFORDED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE WORKING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND SERVICE COMMUNITY IF IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE MAKING THIS THE WORKFORCE HOUSING HAS A SPECIAL DEFINITION AND AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS EXACTLY FITS INTO WORKFORCE HOUSING HOWEVER AS I SAY YOU'RE A DIFFERENT ANIMAL AND IF YOU'VE GOT ARRANGEMENTS WITH ORGANIZATIONS SEARCH GROUP FOR MARRIOTT OR ANY OF THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO TAKE THESE UNITS ON A LONG TERM SITUATION ,OBVIOUSLY THEY CONSIDER THE PROPOSED RENTS THAT YOU WOULD BE CHARGING TO BE REASONABLE ENOUGH FOR THEIR SERVICE EMPLOYEES AND IN A SENSE IT NOT BE THE STRICT DEFINITION OF WORKFORCE HOUSING ON THE RENTS BUT THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE WILLING TO SIGN UP WITH THAT WOULD SEEM TO ME TO BE EVEN THOUGH IT'S MAYBE NOT WITHIN THE EXACT DEFINITION IT IS DEFINITELY TO BE A SERVICE YOU KNOW IT WILL POINT OUT THE RENTS THAT WE HAVE PLUGGED IN PERFORMANCE ARE ANYWHERE FROM 90 TO 140% AMI ALREADY TO MAKE THE DEAL PENCIL AND THAT'S STRICTLY BECAUSE LAND COSTS AND SOLVENT ARE SO EXPENSIVE.
IF THAT WAS CUT DOWN MAYBE THERE'D BE MORE FLEXIBILITY BUT WE'RE ALREADY IN RANGE AND IF I WAS TO PULL UP APARTMENTS DOT COM OR ZILLOW AND YOU THE RATES OF ONE BEDROOMS IN BLUFFTON FOR 17 OR 1800 DOLLARS YOU'D BE PAYING MORE THERE THAN YOU WOULD FOR A STUDIO IN THIS UNIT SO WE'RE ALREADY FAIRLY COMPETITIVE YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKET AND CERTAINLY IF WE WERE TO BE ABLE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING, WE'RE WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE TOWN TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ROOM TO WORK TOGETHER FURTHER ON THAT OF THE EYES OF THE RENTERS IT'S A REASONABLE RENT FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES CORRECT.
THEN IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT YOU KNOW IT'S WITHIN THE BROAD DEFINITION WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR OUR SERVICE EMPLOYEES ON THE ISLAND ANY OTHER. MR. ALLEN I DO.
I RECALL FROM A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION YOU MADE THAT THIS IS LARGELY MARKET RATE HOUSING BUT WITH WITH THE HOPE THAT EMPLOYERS LIKE YOURSELF WOULD HELP TO SUBSIDIZE CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THOSE TO MAKE IT TO A LITTLE BIT OF A SUBSIDY FROM WITHIN TO MAKE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT IS THE SHOULD FALL ON US AS EMPLOYERS TO SOME DEGREE TO SAY HOW BAD DO YOU WANT AN EMPLOYEE IF YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THE GAP BUT THAT WOULD BE AT ANY PROPERTY I WOULD ARGUE YEAH I THOUGHT I REMEMBERED FROM A PREVIOUS YEAR ABSOLUTELY BUT ANY OTHER QUESTION ON THE APPEAL YOU HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. YOU GO AHEAD, JOHN. IS THIS FOR SEASONAL EMPLOYEES OR NO? THREE MONTHS IS THE MINIMUM IS THAT RIGHT? MISSING THREE MONTHS MINIMUM AT LEAST TERM THERE IS NO LEASE TERMS THAT WAS TO AVOID THE SHORT TERM RENTAL WE HAVE. WE HAVE A 30 DAY MINIMUM SO POTENTIALLY YOU COULD FILL A SUMMER YOU KNOW EMPLOYEE SORT OF THING BUT THERE'S NOTHING SHORTER THAN THAT.
AND WHAT IS THE LOT SIZE 4.64.6 ACRES. OKAY.
COMBINED YOU KNOW ALL CURRENT EXISTING THAT WOULD BE REDEVELOPED.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PANEL, MISSY? ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
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YEAH. WHILE THE APPLICANT TEAM DOES HAVE A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT IN MIND, I WANTED TO REMIND THE PLANNING COMMISSION THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT THAT IMPACTS SEVERAL PROPERTIES AND NOT ALL OF THEM MAY HAVE THESE SAME AGREEMENTS IN PLACE AND THAT AGAIN THEY HAVE THE DESIRE TO WORK WITH AREA EMPLOYERS TO MAKE THIS AFFORDABLE AND SERVE THEIR WORKFORCE THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE WITH OTHER OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF NEW USE WITHIN THAT RADIUS WHERE THIS WOULD BE ALLOWED.YOU KNOW THE THE FOUR MAIN AREAS THAT STAFF HAD IDENTIFIED ARE STILL SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE. IT SOUNDS LIKE EXPANDING THE RADIUS TO A THOUSAND FEET IS SOMETHING THE APPLICANT TEAM ALSO AGREES WITH YOU KNOW THE THE USE MIX CERTAINLY RIGHT NOW WITH THE EDUCATION USE WITH UCB IT DOESN'T HAVE A STUDENT POPULATION THAT ATTENDS THAT UNIVERSITY BUILDING FOR ALL OF THEIR AS DRAFTED AGAIN THAT USE MIX COULD BE THAT IT'S ALL DORMITORY WHILE IF IT WAS A REGULARLY ATTENDED UNIVERSITY THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO HAVE A DORM 100% DORMITORY BUILDING THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT EDUCATION USE FACILITY SERVES AND AGAIN ON THE BUILDING HEIGHT YOU'D ASKED I ALREADY FOUND OUT WHAT THE HEIGHT OF 55 GARDNER THAT'S 45 FEET IN HEIGHT. SO FOR REFERENCE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT FORM THERE THAT'S AGAIN THE HEIGHT LIMIT IN THE SPINE CIRCLE DISTRICT STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT TO THAT DISTRICT.
WE'D LIKE THAT TO REMAIN UNIFORM AND WE WOULD LIKE IT TO SERVE AS AS INTENDED AND WHAT THIS APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FOR THEIR PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT. WE WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE WITHIN THE CODE SO THAT IT'S IT'S REQUIRED FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO USE ISLANDER MIXED USE AND SO SOME WOULD BE STAFF FROM IS A THOUSAND FEET FROM THE CIRCLE OR FROM THE OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY. OKAY OKAY ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.
WELL THANK YOU MISS YOU APPRECIATE IT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT PUBLIC HEARING BUBBLE HERE ARE? PUBLIC HEARING? OH YES. OBVIOUSLY COMMENTS FROM THE ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE IN THE AUDIENCE IN THE BACK ROOM PLEASE IDENTIFY MY NAME KELLY LEBLANC AND I FEEL AS THOUGH THEY AGREE WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ACTUALLY ALL OF WHAT SHE SAID I THINK THAT JUST RELYING ON THEIR THE THE HOUSING THAT WE KNOW REGULATION THAT IT BE WORKFORCE HOUSING IS JUST LIKE INTENDED TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING I THINK IT'S INVITING A DISASTER SO ANYONE THAT IS LOOKING FOR HOUSING AND EVERYONE'S FOR HOUSING ON HILTON HEAD WHO ISN'T ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT'S INEXPENSIVE I COULD SEE SNOWBIRDS COMING DOWN AND WE'LL HEAR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN AND LET'S DO THAT AND WORKFORCE HOUSING IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO WHICH IS GOING TO DRIVE UP THE RENT TO THE POINT WHERE THE SURGE GROUP OR ANY OTHER EMPLOYER WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE A LONG TERM CONTRACT BECAUSE IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE FOR THEM TO DO THAT. SO I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD INCLUDE SOME PROVISIONS THAT IT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE WORKFORCE HOUSING. IT SHOULD BE A EVEN IF IT'S IF IT'S A PERCENTAGE IT SHOULD BE THE MAJORITY OF IT SO DORMITORY AND WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT'S THE INTENTION YOU SHOULD PUT IT IN IN THE LAW OR IN THE THE REQUIRED THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT POINT TO MAKE BECAUSE. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S WORKERS LIVING ALL THE SPACE AT A RECENT TOWN HOUSING CHARRETTE WHERE WE HAD YOU KNOW PROBABLY 4050 LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS TOWN MANAGER MARK ORLANDO HE OUTLINED HOW THEY APPROACHED THAT MATTER WHEN. HE WAS IN BLUFFTON AND THEY HAD A POINT SCORING SYSTEM THAT THEY APPLIED. SO YOU WERE ELIGIBLE TO GET AN OPEN UNIT BASED ON THE HIGHEST POINT SCORE. AND OF COURSE ONE OF THE METRICS WOULD BE ARE YOU EMPLOYED AND WORKING ON THAT ISLAND YOU WOULD THEN QUALIFY FOR POINTS. SO WE WOULD LEAN HEAVILY ON THAT MODEL TO ENSURE THAT WE FILL 132 UNITS WITH WORKERS FIRST AND I WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO IMAGINE WE COULDN'T DO SO WITHOUT GETTING TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC BUT BECAUSE OF FAIR HOUSING STANDARDS WE'D WE'D HAVE TO EMPLOY A MODEL LIKE THAT TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT WORKERS GOING IN BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT JUST YOU ALLUDED TO COULD SPIRAL OUT OF CONTROL.
AND I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT IF IF THERE WAS AN ARMY 10% OF UP TO 120 WOULD SEEM TO MAKE SENSE AT LEAST WITH THE DIRT ON THE SOUTH END AND SINCE WE'RE TALKING 500 FEET OF A UNIVERSITY. IT'S THE ONLY ONE ON THE ISLAND.
IT'S ALL VERY EXPENSIVE. I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY WORK WELL ANY FUTURE DEVELOPERS AS WELL. THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PEOPLE GATHERED HERE TODAY IF NOT THEN I WILL I WILL CLOSE THE COMMENT PERIOD ON THIS AND ASK MY COMMISSIONERS THERE A MOTION THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO PROPOSE ON THIS.
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SO MOVED MOVED THAT WE SHOULD MOVE THIS ON TO THE TOWN COUNCIL ALL ANY OTHER COMMENT A SECOND SECOND FROM MR. SIEBEL HERE OKAY SIGNIFY BY RAISE YOUR ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS ON THE TOWN COUNCIL. THANK YOU. IT'S FIVE TO NOTHING ON THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO A A MY AGENDA CHANGE HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING THE SUPPORT ROLE RESORT PROJECT AND THAT WILL BE YOUR NEXT AND I'M TO ASK SEAN TO COME BEFORE US AND NICOLE TO DISCUSS THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL THAT'S GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS SEAN COLLINS IS IN TOWN. I ALSO SERVE AS A COMMUNITY BUDGET DIRECTOR AND ALAMO OFFICIALS SO I WANT TO MAKE JUST A FEW COMMENTS BECAUSE THIS IS A THIS PROCESS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR ALAMO AND OUR NORMAL STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. BUT SOMETIME JULY AUGUST WE BEGAN TO IMPLEMENT BRINGING SUBDIVISIONS AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEWS TO PLANNING AND THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE ROLE IS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLARIFYING WHAT THAT IS. WE'RE BRINGING THE THESE PLANS AND PROJECTS TO YOU ONE FOR INFORMATION BUT ALSO TO GAIN YOUR INPUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR YOU CAME IN TO THE TOWN ON JANUARY 18TH EARLIER THIS YEAR SO WE ARE IN OUR 11TH MONTH THE PROJECT AND WILL GO THROUGH A LOT OF THE DETAILS BUT THE THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED ALREADY SIX EIGHT YEARS AGO ALLOW 16 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE 8.4 ACRES. IT ALLOWS 134 UNITS.THERE IS A PROVISION WHERE A LOCKOUT UNITS ARE ALLOWED AND THEY COUNT AS HALF A DWELLING UNIT. SO THERE'S REALLY 166 SPACES WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT AS OUR CODE READS IT'S 134 COULD YOU EDUCATE US AND EVERYONE IN THE ROOM AS TO WHAT LOCKOUT MEANS? YEAH IT'S IT'S AN ACCESSORY IT'S AN ACCESSORY SPACE TO A PRIMARY USE AND SO A LOT OF TIMES LOCKOUTS THEY DON'T THEY DON'T MEET THE FULL DEFINITION OF A DWELLING.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER KITCHEN OR, ANOTHER FACILITY BUT IT CAN BE ACCESSED INDEPENDENTLY FROM THE PRIMARY SPACE AND SO THE TOWN CODE IS READ THIS WAY WHERE IT'S KIND OF LOCKOUTS AS A PARTIAL UNIT OVER TIME AND THE WAY THE CODES WRITTEN RIGHT NOW ONE OF THOSE LOCKOUT UNITS COUNTS AS A HALF OF A UNIT AND SO IF THEY HAVE FOUR LOCKOUT UNITS ACCOUNTS AS 32 DWELLING UNITS PER OUR CODE AND THAT PROVISION HAS BEEN PART OF THE ALAMO FOR SOME TIME IN THE IN THE IN A AREAS BECAUSE THE MODEL OF DEVELOPMENT WAS FOR TIMESHARES AND THESE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WAS PRIMARY UNIT AND THEN A LOCKOUT THANK YOU WE'VE GIVEN THIS A LOT OF TIME AND ATTENTION AND I'M SURE THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR TEAM CAN APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.
WE ARE ON OUR FIFTH ROUND OF REVIEW COMMENTS REVISIONS TO THE TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE IS WE'VE GOT A LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT, LARGE MASS AND SCALE WITHIN AREA ADJACENT TO A A IS A ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE INTEGRATION OF THIS PROJECT INTO THAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR TO CIRCULATION TO ACCESS FOR SAFETY FOR STREET EDGE TO LOOK AT ROADWAY IMPACTS AND CONNECTIVITY AND SO WE CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR THOSE THINGS AS NICOLE GOES THROUGH AND GIVES YOU DETAILS ON THE PROJECT AND YOU'LL SEE SOME PLANS AND AND I'D REQUESTED THAT WE GET AN ELEVATION SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE THE DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE STREET AS PROPOSED.
I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR INPUT BUT COMING OF THIS MEETING I EXPECT THAT WE WILL REQUEST ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS ALONG THE STREET EDGE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THAT FOR THAT FOR THAT STREET TO MAINTAIN ITS CHARACTER AND NOT LOSE LOSE THAT CHARACTER OF THE MASSING AND SCALE OF THIS PROJECT YOU'LL SEE THE ELEVATION AND I BELIEVE HAVING A ADDITIONAL SCREENING AND FENCE COMMENSURATE OR BETTER THE FENCES THAT EXIST IN OTHER AREAS ALONG THAT STREETSCAPE
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WOULD MAKE THE PROJECT BETTER. I THINK ADDITIONAL PLANNING WITH SCREENING OF THE BUILDING MASSING WOULD BENEFIT AND. I'D LIKE THE COMMISSION SUPPORT AND HEARING YOUR INPUT ON THOSE THINGS. I THINK ENHANCED CIRCULATION AND SAFETY YOU KNOW THE OF HAVING A FENCE IF YOU LOOK AT THE ELEVATION AND THE PLANNING PLAN YOU CAN MOVE OFF IF FOLKS ARE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT FOLKS CAN JUST MOVE THROUGH KIND OF THAT ESPECIALLY THE INITIALLY PLANTED AND THERE'S REALLY NO FUNNELING INTO DEDICATED ACCESS POINTS THAT WOULD HELP SAFETY AND CROSSING OF THAT STREET AND I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ENHANCED COMMON SPACE COMMON AREA AN OPEN SPACE AS PART OF THE PLAN CONSOLIDATION OF SOME AMENITIES AND NOT PUSHING THEM OUT ALONG THE STREET EDGE AND SO THOSE ARE MY EXPECTATIONS AS THE ALAMO OFFICIAL AND I ASK STAFF TO CONTINUE PUSH FOR THESE THINGS. THESE ARE ALL CONSISTENT WITH PURPOSE AND INTENT OF OF OUR CODE AND WHILE WE HAVE WHILE THERE ARE MINIMUM STANDARDS IN THE CODE WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR TREATMENT IN AN AREA WHERE WHERE THE MASS AND SCALING WITHOUT THESE PROVISIONS MAY NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. SO I WANTED TO LEAD WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND LET KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE TO HEAR FROM YOU. WE'LL GIVE YOU INFORMATION BUT ALSO HEAR FROM YOU YOUR INPUT. BUT COMING OUT THIS MEETING THOSE ARE MY EXPECTATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL REQUESTS THAT I HAVE ESPECIALLY AFTER SEEING THE ELEVATION OF HAVING HAVING A MORE SENSITIVE TREATMENT, MORE ATTENTION PLACED TO THAT STREET EDGE ALONG FALLOWFIELD ROAD SO THANK YOU FOR THE EDUCATION AND THE CALL PLEASE. THANK YOU SEAN OF STOLE MY THUNDER AND PRETTY MUCH MENTIONED EVERYTHING I WAS GOING TO MENTION BUT I'LL JUST GO THROUGH QUICKLY THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. SO UP ON THE SCREEN IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. IT KIND OF JOGS HERE LOCATED ON FALLOWFIELD ROAD WE'VE THE LIONS TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY OCEAN PALMS WHICH IS ANOTHER TIMESHARE DEVELOPMENT IN THE REAR WE'VE GOT FIDDLERS COVE MULTIFAMILY DOWN HERE THEN ISLAND CLUB ACROSS THE STREET.THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED A TENNIS RACKET FACILITY IT'S BEEN NOT USED FOR YEARS SO THE PLAN TO REDEVELOP THIS PROPERTY LIKE SEAN MENTIONED BEGAN PROBABLY SIX YEARS AGO. THE APPLICANT OR NOT THIS CURRENT APPLICANT THERE WAS AN APPLICATION IN SEVERAL YEARS AGO FOR A TIMESHARE DEVELOPMENT.
IT DID NOT GET APPROVED AND WAS WITHDRAWN SO A NEW APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED IN JANUARY THIS YEAR AND STAFF IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THE LATEST PLANS WHICH WERE ON FIFTH SUBMITTAL AS JOHN MENTIONED. I'LL BRING UP THE PLAN WITH I'M SURE WITH THOSE WHITE BOXES. ANY IDEA WHAT THAT IS? LET'S JUST IT'S JUST A BIG FILE. THIS ONE OKAY. WIKIPEDIA CRASHING.
I WAS LIKE I RECALL THAT SAME SITE. OKAY.
OKAY THANK YOU. BUT YOU KNOW THE WEBSITE APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY HERE.
SO THIS IS SO MOST OF THE PLAN SET IS INTO TWO DIFFERENT PAGES TWO SHEETS FOR EACH SECTION.
BUT THIS IS AN OVERALL SCHEMATIC SHOWING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE ON YOUR SCREEN. IT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR POCKET BUT THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES PROPOSED ON FALLOWFIELD ROAD. ONE THE SOUTHERNMOST ENTRANCE WOULD BE PROBABLY THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. YOU'LL COME IN HERE.
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THERE'S A A ROUNDABOUT HERE THIS IS THE AMENITY CENTER SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE MAIN FOCAL POINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT MAINLY CENTER OF THE POOL AND THEN THEIR DEVELOPMENT CONSISTS OF SEVEN BUILDINGS THERE'S THREE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS PROPOSED AND FOUR THREE STOREY BUILDINGS PROPOSED AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE BUILDINGS SPACED OUT THROUGHOUT BOTH SIDES OF THE INTERNAL DRIVE AISLE THAT GOES THROUGH THE SITE AND THEN WITH AN EXIT BACK OUT FALLOWFIELD ROAD LIKE SEAN SAID WE'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR GOOD DESIGN THIS A LARGE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED IN THE MIDDLE OF AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO WE'RE PUSHING TO HAVE THAT STREETSCAPE FIT AND BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS OUT ON FALLOWFIELD ROAD WE'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR A MORE CENTRALIZED STORMWATER FACILITY TO SERVE AS AN AMENITY FOR BETTER PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION AND FOR PARKING.THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US AND HAS HAS MET A LOT OF OUR COMMENTS AND WE'RE KIND OF GETTING TOWARDS THE END WITH SOME LIMITED COMMENTS BUT WE ARE PUSHING STILL FOR SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AS SEAN MENTIONED, WE WILL BE FOR A FENCE OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO TO PROVIDE SOME CONSISTENCY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ON FALLOWFIELD ROAD AND PROVIDE NICE STREETSCAPE FOR FALLOWFIELD SO THERE ARE ONE ONE MAIN CONCERN THAT THE TOWN HAS AND IF YOU HAVE ANY IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT WE CAN BRING BRIAN EBER UP HERE BUT THERE ARE TWO SIGNIFICANT SIZED THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REMOVE BUT NOT SATISFIED THE TOWN'S CONCERNS DEMONSTRATED WHY THEY HAVE TO REMOVE IT SO THAT CODE REQUIRES THAT THEY EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS DEMONSTRATE THAT IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO KEEP THE TREES AND THE TOWN IS NOT SATISFIED THAT ADDRESSED THAT YET SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE PUSHING FOR LIKE SEAN MENTIONED THE PROPERTY ARDEE RESORT DEVELOPMENT ALLOWS 16 UNITS PER UNIT ACRE 134 UNITS IS ALLOWED BASED ON THE ACREAGE THEY'RE PROPOSING 132 MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN THIS DISTRICT IS 75 FEET. I THINK THE TALLEST BUILDING IS ABOUT 6066 FEET PROPOSED SO THEY'RE WELL UNDER THE MAXIMUM .
I'LL SCROLL DOWN TO THE NEXT PLAN SHEET THIS WAS THE PLAN THAT SEAN MENTIONED.
WE HAD ASKED FOR A AN ELEVATION THAT SHOWS WHAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOLLY FIELD SO YOU CAN SEE THIS MIDDLE PICTURE HERE IS THAT ILLUSTRATION SHOWS THE 44 FOOT PROPOSED HEIGHT STRUCTURE AND THEN THE 55 FOOT BUILDING OFF TO THE RIGHT WITH PROPOSED LANDSCAPING ALONG THE STREET EDGE. BUT LIKE SEAN MENTIONED WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ENHANCED WITH LARGER TREES TO KIND OF BREAK UP THAT SCALING AND MASS OF THE STRUCTURES AND ALSO A FENCE TO BE A LITTLE BIGGER I'M SORRY I'M SORRY YOU THAT WILL MATTER I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT NO ONE I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THAT I WAS GOING TO GO OVER LIKE SEAN MENTIONED WE'RE LOOKING FOR INPUT FROM YOU ALL YOU KNOW LIKE WE SAID STAFF IS CONTINUING TO PUSH FOR FOR EXCELLENCE AND FOR THE PROJECT TO MEET OUR TOWN CODE AND OUR PLAN AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR INPUT FROM YOU ALL AND ALLOW THAT INPUT ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT AND, ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
YES, GO AHEAD. CAN I CAN I JUMP IN JUST 1/2 IN THIS BUILDING ON MY PREVIOUS COMMENT? SO YOU KNOW, THIS GIVES PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF THE THE SCREENING OF THE AND WHILE 66 FEET IS LESS THAN 75, IT'S STILL SIGNIFICANT IN THIS AREA.
BUT YOU CAN SEE ALONG THE STREET EDGE YOU KNOW THE CONCERNS I HAVE ARE THAT ANYBODY CAN KIND OF POP THROUGH THOSE BUSHES. THE REASON I'M THINKING WELL I'M EXPECTING A FENCE BE PART OF THIS IS UP CONTROL SOME ACCESS AS PART OF THAT AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE REMAINDER OF THE VALLEY FIELD THE CHARACTER OF THAT STREET I THINK SOME ADDITIONAL ARTICULATION WOULD BLEND IN MUCH BETTER WITH THAT OVERALL
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CONTEXT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE RAIN YESTERDAY WITH A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY ON A DIFFERENT ISSUE BUT WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE YOU IF YOU REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO KIND OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THAT CONTEXT AND THEN PROJECT THIS IN THERE, I THINK EVERY EFFORT WE CAN MAKE SO THIS THIS BECOMES ADDITIONAL VALUE ADD TO THE COMMUNITY AND DOESN'T YOU KNOW KIND OF THE I THINK THE FOLKS POINT TO A WE MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY SO THAT'S WHY I'M I'M REQUESTING THAT WE HAVE YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THESE ELEMENTS. THANK YOU. IF THE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THAT WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE A PROPER TIME FOR THAT. NO ONE WANTS TO SPEAK.JUST GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN. CHESTER WILLIAMS OF A LOCAL ATTORNEY I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE AND BRETT CALLAHAN IS THE LEADER THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND. ONE ONE OF THE PROJECTS LIKE THIS STARTS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS IT DOES IS IT GOES BEFORE THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IS CHARGED WITH ESTHETIC ISSUES SITE PLAN LANDSCAPING. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? THIS THE STREETSCAPE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD THE SITE PLANS THAT ARE HERE WE'RE ALL APPROVED BY THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND NOW UNFORTUNATELY THE DEVELOPER FINDS ITSELF IN THE POSITION OF TOWN SAYING WELL WE'RE NOT SURE WE LIKED WHAT THE DESIGN REVIEW APPROVED SO WE WANT YOU TO CHANGE THINGS AND THAT PUTS THE DEVELOPER INTO A DIFFICULT POSITION, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATING BUT IT WAS THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WHO SAID NO FENCE ALONG THE ROAD AND. NOW THE TOWN STAFF WANTS US TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD APPROVAL AND WORKING THROUGH THESE ISSUES WITH THEM BUT IT PUTS THE DEVELOPER HERE IN A DIFFICULT WITH RESPECT TO THE TWO SIGNIFICANT TREES IN THE GOAL MENTIONED THE PLANS DO PROVIDE FOR SAVING ONE OF THEM .
THE OTHER ONE I DON'T KNOW WHAT SORT OF JUSTIFICATION HAVE TO REMOVE IT OTHER THAN THE ARBORIST REPORT SAYS TAKE IT OUT NOW IF THE TOWN STAFF HAS SOME REASON THAT THEY WANT TO KEEP IT THEN THEY LET US KNOW ABOUT IT. BUT THAT SORT OF THING YOU KNOW JUSTIFYING REMOVING THAT IS A COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE DETERMINATION ON THE PART OF THE TOWN STAFF AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH IT.
I MEAN WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO DO TO DO REASONABLE CHANGES BUT REWORKING THE ENTIRE STORMWATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT IS A MULTI HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR TASK TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT WHAT'S THERE MEETS THE TOWN REQUIREMENTS AND AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME IT'S IT'S FRANKLY IT'S UNREASONABLE TO BE ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO CHANGE ALL THAT SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE SEEN HERE, PLEASE WE'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO ADDRESS IT BUT OTHERWISE WE'LL BE GLAD TO LISTEN TO YOUR COMMENTS.
THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. OTHER ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL? GENTLEMAN OVER HERE AND BY THE WAY, WE DID RECEIVE COPIOUS COMMENTS FROM THE FOSSIL FUEL COMMUNITY BY OUR PORTHOLE AND I HAVE SPENT AN HOUR READING THEM. I JUST WATCHED THAT. OKAY.
YES, SIR. IDENTIFY YOURSELF IF YOU WOULD .
GOOD AFTERNOON. DETERMINED COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CAROLYN STOREN.
I'M A FULL TIME RESIDENT OF HOLLY FIELD ON THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
NICOLE SAID SHAWN DID STEAL OUR THUNDER SO YOU'LL HAVE TO EXCUSE OF WHAT I HAVE HERE.
IN 2015 THIS PROPERTY WAS REZONE FROM RECREATION INTO RESORT DEVELOPMENT DESPITE PROTESTS FROM EVERY SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WENT FROM ZERO DENSITY TO THE HIGHEST DENSITY ACCORDING TO THE STATE OF CAROLINA, A ZONING ORDINANCE ENSURES THE DEVELOPMENT FITS IN WITH EXISTING AND FUTURE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
IT ALSO STATES THAT IT PREVENTS LAND OVERCROWDING, AVOID CONCENTRATION OF POPULATION AND LESSENS STREET. THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES NONE OF THE ABOVE AND WOULD ONLY JUST DETRACT FROM THE ISLAND. IT IS SO NOT ALIGNED FOR THIS I.
CAN I APPROACH AND GIVE YOU SOME PHOTOGRAPHS? IF YOU WOULD HAND THEM TO STAFF I WOULD APPRECIATE IN THEIR APPLICATION THEY CLAIM TO BE IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE ADJACENT PROPERTY ON FALLOWFIELD IS A THREE STORY BUILDING IN FIDDLERS COVE .
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IT'S NOT A FIVE STORY BUILDING. THESE BUILDINGS ARE DESCRIBED AS THREE AND FOUR STORIES.WHAT THEY TO MENTION IS THAT IT'S OVER A PARKING LOT SO THEY'RE ON A BUILDING PARKING AND WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE BUILDING AND YOU COUNT IT, IT'S FIVE STORIES IN.
OR AT LEAST MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE THAT IT'S FIVE STORIES. THE OTHER RESORTS FIDDLERS COVE ISLAND CLUB, BEACH ANTENNAS ETC. KEPT THE MATURE TREES TO SHIELD FROM PUBLIC VIEW AND DAMPENED THEIR APPEARANCE. THIS DEVELOPMENT ALSO REVISED THE MATURE TREES INCLUDING OFFSPRING BASED ON FOLLY FIELD ROAD TO MAKE ROOM FOR BIGGER BUILDINGS. THERE ARE ARBORISTS REPORT FROM 2017 WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE THAT EVERY TREE WAS ALREADY OR DYING. APPLYING THEIR LOGIC YOU COULD STATE THAT WE'RE ALL DYING BECAUSE THE RESORTS FULLERS, COVE ISLAND CLUB BEACH AND TOWNS ETC. HAVE FENCED IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING SECURITY THIS DECONGEST PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT HAVE A FENCE.
IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED BY THE DARBY SO THAT'S CONTRARY WHAT YOUR PREVIOUS PERSON SAID.
SO IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK THE NOTES FROM THE DARBY THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A FENCE AND THEN THE NEXT MEETING THE DEVELOPER CAME BACK AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD INCREASE THE THE PLANTINGS ALONG POLLOKSHIELDS FIELD ROAD. THIS CREATES A SAFETY ISSUE AS . PEOPLE CAN POP OUT OF THE LANDSCAPING INTO THE TOWN'S PUBLIC PATHWAY AND INTO THE PATH OF ONCOMING CYCLISTS OR WORSE YET EVEN A CYCLIST.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS LITTLE BUFFER BETWEEN THAT HEAVILY USED PEDESTRIAN CYCLE PATH AND A SPEEDING TRAFFIC ALONG FALLOWFIELD ROAD. I MEAN IN SOME AREAS YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF FEED FILLERS COVE HAS ONE ENTRANCE SO SIMON CLUB SPEECH AND TENNIS C CLOISTERS THE SAME. THIS DEVELOPMENT WANTS TO HOW WILL THIS IMPACT PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS AS THEY ATTEMPT TO ENJOY THEIR AFTERNOON STROLL OR CYCLE? THIS IS ONLY ONE. THERE IS ONLY ONE PATH ALONG FOLLICULAR ROAD SO THEY DON'T HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE PATH. SO BASICALLY YOUR CYCLISTS HAVE TO USE THIS PATH. THEY WANT TO EXITS AND THEN WITH NO FENCE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE POPPING UP FROM THE LANDSCAPING. FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS CONGESTION AND OVERCROWDING ARE THE OWNERS BEACH PARK AND OUR BEACHES GENERALLY HAVE BEEN A HOT TOPIC. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO ADD HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL PEOPLE ONTO OUR ALREADY OVERCROWDED BEACH. LAST BUT NOT LEAST I HAVE NEVER SEEN TRAFFIC OR ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY RELATED TO THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
PEOPLE WAIT FOR TWO AND OFTEN THREE CYCLES OF THE LIGHT A 278 AND FALLOWFIELD ROAD.
THE ORIGINAL USED TRAFFIC COUNTS FROM 2014. THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND A VERY DIFFERENT ISLAND FROM WHAT IT WAS IN 2014.
IN SUMMARY, THIS IS THE WRONG THING IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME.
THIS IS REALLY A SQUARE PEG INTO A ROUND HOLE. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY THAT THE TOWN CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC STUDY IN JULY OF 2023 WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE REAL TRAFFIC INDEPENDENT ARBUS REPORT AN INDEPENDENT ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. THANK YOU, SIR.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? IT'S BEEN HELLO.
MY NAME IS EDWINA DUNLAP AND I REPRESENT, A LARGE CITIZEN'S GROUP WHO STARTED WORKING WITH THE TOWN COUNCIL A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT ISLANDERS BEACH PARK.
WE'VE WORKED REALLY WELL WITH THE TOWN COUNCIL. WE'VE MADE QUITE A IMPROVEMENTS . ISLANDERS BEACH PARK WAS ORIGINALLY FOR RESIDENTS OF THE ISLAND TO HAVE BEACH ACCESS AND PARKING AT THE ISLANDERS BEACH PARK.
HOWEVER RIGHT BESIDE THIS TIMESHARE UNIT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED AH I THINK EIGHT ADDITIONAL ONES IN ROYAL VILLAGE SO THIS IS ADDING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT EXPECT TO USE THE ISLANDERS BEACH PARK AS ACCESS TO THE BEACH.
WE'RE ALREADY HAVING A SERIOUS PROBLEM. I MEAN HAVE EIGHT OTHER TIMESHARE COMPLEXES IN PORT ROYAL VILLAGE YOU HAVE THE WESTIN YOU THE BARONY WHICH IS ANOTHER TIMESHARE VILLAGE YOU HAVE ISLANDS LINKS WHICH IS UP NEAR THE FRONT OF DENES AND THEY'RE ALL OUR PORT ROYAL EXCUSE ME AND THEY'RE USING ISLANDERS BEACH PARK AS ACCESS TO THE BEACH. WHEN WE SAW THE PLAN FOR THIS ABOUT A YEAR AGO THEY HAD PUT ON THEIR PLAN THE DEVELOPER HAD PUT ON THEIR PLAN. THIS WAS THEIR ACCESS TO ISLANDERS BEACH PARK SO PLAN ON ANOTHER 800 TO 1000 PEOPLE TO ACCESS THIS SMALL STRIP OF BEACH THAT'S ALREADY BEING USED BY SO MANY PEOPLE. IF YOU GO THERE DURING HIGH SEAS AND HIGH IT LOOKS LIKE THE NEW JERSEY SHORE ON THAT AND NOW ANOTHER 800 TO 1000.
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THE TOWN STAFF HAS AGREED THAT THE FACILITY ARE BEING SO OVERUSED AT ISLANDERS BEACH AND PEOPLE FROM THIS GROUP ARE THE STREET AND WALKING DOWN THE ROAD WHERE ARE COMING IN TO PARK TO GO TO THE BEACH AND HERE'S ANOTHER 800 TO 1000 AND WHAT LOCKOUTS MEAN IS IT MEANS IT DOUBLES THE TO HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY CAN RENT TO BECAUSE INSTEAD OF ONE UNIT NOW IT BECOMES TWO UNITS THAT THEY CAN RENT TO TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE SO THAT EVEN INCREASES THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. SO WE AGREE WE'RE RESIDENTS WE DON'T LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.WE DRIVE TO ISLANDERS BEACH PARK BECAUSE OUR ONLY BEACH ACCESS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN AND THE NORTH END HILTON HEAD PLANTATION AND INDIGO REGION AND SOME PEOPLE IN PORT ROYAL THIS IS OUR ONLY BEACH ACCESS AND THEY WANT TO BRING ANOTHER 800 TO 1000 PEOPLE TO ONE LITTLE STRIP OF BEACH. WE ASK THAT YOU DENY THE WHOLE PROJECT.
THANK YOU. IT'S NOT THE POWER THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO YOU KNOW, PUT IT NEXT TO ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT LIKE THIS. IT IS OUR JOB TO KIND OF EVALUATE THE PROPOSAL IS AND GET THE FEELINGS OF THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN GET BACK TO THE DEVELOPERS AND INDICATE WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY AND I HAVING READ THROUGH ALL OF THE THE PUBLIC PORTAL COMMENTS THERE'S A LONG LIST OF ISSUES HERE NOT ONLY TO MENTION THE OBVIOUS ONES OF THE TREES AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE TRAFFIC THAT THAT MIGHT ADDED TO THE LANES THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE BEACH CRABS, ENVIRONMENT OVERDEVELOPMENT SETBACKS ROOFLINES HEIGHT BUILDING HEIGHTS SO ON AND SO FORTH.
IT IS OUR JOB TODAY TO JUST GET THE FEELINGS OF THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE US SOME INPUT SO WE CAN GET BACK TO THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROPOSAL AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THE THINGS ARE OF CONCERN TO THE COMMUNITY AND SEE WHAT IF ANYTHING CAN BE DONE TO AMELIORATE THOSE OR TO EVEN IF NECESSARY MAKE A CHANGE. BUT I HAVE WALKED THE PROPERTY ,I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE, I'VE LOOKED AT IT AND DRIVEN AROUND IT AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS MYSELF BUT I'M GOING TO LET MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS RAISE THE QUESTIONS FIRST WE'LL START HERE WITH MR. SIEBOLD THIS TIME ROUND ANYTHING? NOTHING FOR YOU.
OKAY, CAMPBELL YEAH. MY QUESTION IS IS THIS GOING TO BE A GATED TIMESHARE COMMUNITY ? NO. OKAY.
MR. DARRINGTON SO THIS THIS DEVELOPMENT IS IS FRONTING FALLOWFIELD ROAD AND THEN ACCESS IS TO THE LIONS I BELIEVE ON THE OTHER SIDE IS IS LIONS BASICALLY FENCED OFF FROM THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT'S A WINDJAMMER CAUGHT BEHIND IT AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A VEHICULAR ENTRANCE OR TO THAT WINDJAMMER IS A WINDJAMMER.
I THINK IT'S ONE BULLETIN BOARD. WIMBLEDON.
WIMBLEDON. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING OF THERE.
THERE'S NO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF OF WINDJAMMER HERE.
SO THE LIONS WHICH IS LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY MAKE THEIR THOSE DRIVE OUT THAT COMES AROUND THE BUILDINGS THIS WAY AND THEN BACK THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT RIGHT AND THERE'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT THAT RUNS THROUGH THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY THEY NEED TO MAINTAIN FOR FOR THAT'S FOR BEACH ACCESS TO THE NO VEHICULAR ACCESS OF VEHICULAR FOR FIRE AND THAT SORT OF THING. OKAY. YES, SIR.
YES THE LIONS IS THE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S TRUE.
IF YOU LOOK IF YOU'RE STANDING IN FOLLY FUEL ROAD LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY, IT'S THE ONE THAT'S ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. OKAY. GO TO THE BLUE BUILDINGS.
YEAH, THAT ACCESS TO THE LIONS IS OFF WIMBLEDON COURT ACROSS AN EASEMENT THAT IS ON OUR PROPERTY SO THAT EASEMENT IS BEING MAINTAINED. IT'S GOING TO BE REDONE FOR ACCESS TO THE LIONS BUT THAT'S SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S ONLY ONE OF VEHICULAR ACCESS IS OFF OF POLLOKSHIELDS IS THAT CORRECT THERE TOO EXCEPT FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS THERE IS AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS OFF WIMBLEDON BOARD EVERYTHING ELSE COMES OFF FOLLY FUEL ROAD FOR NO THANK YOU ANY OTHER MR. HAMPSTEAD
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YOU'VE SORT OF REPEATED THAT AND APPEARS THAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS CORRECT THAT THERE IS PARKING BENEATH THE UNITS THEMSELVES. YES.AND THOSE COUNTED IN THE STORIES THAT THE THREE AND FOUR STOREY BUILDINGS I'M NOT SURE HOW IMPORTANT COUNTERS I'M GOING ON WITH THE PLANS SHOW NOW PULLS UP RIGHT OTHER AS IF IT'S FOR RESIDENTIAL STORIES PLUS A PARKING THAT'S FIVE STORIES AND WHERE I COUNT THERE'LL BE THE FIRST FOUR STORIES OVER PARKING BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL THE REFERS TO IS FOUR STORIES ALL BY CORNWALL. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T INTERRUPT ANYBODY WHEN I WAS THE PERSONAL CLAIMS THANK YOU EVERYBODY BE REMINDED. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PARKING LEVEL AND THEN FOR RESIDENTIAL WHICH SCORED THE MULTI I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT'S ALL THANK YOU. AND THEN SO SOME OF THE BUILDINGS ARE THREE IN SOME REFORMS THAT ARE RIGHT IN PHASE ONE IS THREE AND THEN PHASE TWO GOES TO FOUR STORIES OF RESIDENTIAL. I HAVE TO CHECK BUILDING SIX AND BUILDING SEVEN OF TOP OF MY HEAD WHICH ARE THE BUT WE'RE ALL WITHIN BUT WE'RE WITHIN HEIGHT LIMITS WE ARE WITHIN HEIGHT LIMITS FROM THE ELEMENTS WE'RE WELL THANK YOU. AND SO FOR COMPARISON'S SAKE YOU WERE TO DRIVE NORTH AND FOLLY FEEL ROAD TO GRESLEY ON AVENUE THERE'S A UNIT RIGHT THERE AT THE ENTRANCE OF PORT VILLAGE I BELIEVE IT IS. IS THAT THE KIND OF BUILDING YOU'RE NEAR THE BASIC CONCEPT OF A BUILDING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE YOU REFERRING TO A BARONY VILLAGE HOUSE. VILLAGE HOUSE. VILLAGE HOUSE YES.
I CAN'T SAY THAT I'M FAMILIAR RIGHT ALL THE VILLAGE HOUSE THANK YOU OTHER AND MR. HENGE DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OF YEAH FIRST OF ALL THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DEVELOPERS HERE BUT BUT I KNOW A CONCERN OF OF ISLANDERS IS THAT WE'RE GETTING REALLY CROWDED AND. WE CAN'T FIND THE THE THE WORK TO SUPPORT WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND AND WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE CROWDED. IT'S ALMOST LIKE OKAY TOWN GET GET THE WORKFORCE HOUSING SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THIS VOLUME BUT BUT MAYBE THAT'S AN EDITORIAL I THINK THE CAT WAS OUT OF THE BAG WHEN WE WENT ZONING FROM FROM ZERO DENSITY TO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY AND IN JUST ONE FELL SWOOP HOW DO YOU DO THAT HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? I'M NOT SURE BUT BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHEN IF WE WANT TO CONTROL OUR GROWTH THAT'S THAT'S YOU DO IT I DON'T THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS AFTER THE FACT FOR FOR DEVELOPMENT BUT BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT THAT ALL THE COMMENTS THAT READ WERE HEY WE'RE NEIGHBORS AND THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOUGHT INTO AND NOW YOU KNOW THIS THIS HUGE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE TOWN TO LISTEN TO. I MEAN THIS IS WHO YOU REPRESENT CERTAINLY THE BUSINESS INTERESTS BUT BUT THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL. AND AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS I REMEMBER READING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GATED COMMUNITIES WE CONTROL THIS SO WE CAN WE CONTROL GROWTH AND DENSITY IN MASS WHY CAN'T WE GET IT RIGHT FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN A GATED COMMUNITY AND IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT CERTAINLY WHAT WE HEARD FROM ALL THE ARE FROM RESIDENTS THAT THAT DON'T THAT PROTECTION AND AND THAT CONCERNS ME AND I THINK LOT OF CONCERN IF NOT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE YOU SIR AS IT IS NOT IN OUR PURVIEW TO YOU KNOW FORWARD THIS ALONG OR TO NIX IT.
I WILL SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I HOPE WILL BE TAKEN UP THE OF THE OF THE STREET SITUATION THEIR STREET SIDE SITUATION ON FALLOWFIELD I REALIZE THAT THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD DID NOT ABOUT A FENCE I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPERS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL TO TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH THEM WITH REGARD TO THE THE BUFFERS AND THE BUFFERS AS WELL
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AS THE THERE'S A THERE'S TRESPASSING ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN RAISED AND THAT IS THAT FOLKS FROM THIS POTENTIAL PROJECT WOULD BE WALKING ACROSS OTHER PRIVATE PROPERTY TO GET TO THE BEACH EVEN THOUGH THERE IS ACCESS JUST DOWN THE ROAD TO THE ISLAND OR BEACH THAT THAT FENCE MIGHT SOLVE SOME COMMUNITY PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF , YOU KNOW, ACCESS AND MAYBE WALKING THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY TO GET TO THE BEACH FROM SUCH A PROJECT IN TERMS OF THE AND THE ROOFLINES AND SETBACKS ARE WITHIN THE ALAMO BUILDING HEIGHT IS ALSO I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPERS TO TO MAYBE READ THE SAME PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE'VE GOT THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THE PORTAL AND SEE WHAT COULD BE YOU KNOW, OFFERED TO THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF CROSSWALKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, HELP THE COMMUNITY ADJUST TO SUCH A PROJECT. I MEAN PRIVATE PROPERTY AND AND THERE ARE LIMITATIONS TO WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN DO TO PRIVATE PROPERTY BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT FITS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND AND AND THAT YOU OR YOUR NEIGHBORS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE GOING TO BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROJECT.CERTAIN ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED. LET'S SEE HERE THERE'S YOU KNOW, SAFETY, SECURITY ISSUES AND FENCING MIGHT HELP IN THAT REGARD AS WELL. AND ALSO PERHAPS LANDSCAPING BUFFERS THAT COULD SERVE AS A FENCE AS WELL AS A PHYSICAL FENCE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC STUDY. I WANTED TO ASK YOU JUST IS THERE BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THIS PARTICULAR THING OR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY AND THEN KIND OF TRAFFIC STUDY GOES IN CONNECTION WITH THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY BACK IN 2015? YES, THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE IN ORDER TO PROVE THAT WE DIDN'T DO HAVE TO DO TRAFFIC STUDY.
SO THE THE INCREASE IN DENSITY ISN'T SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO REQUIRE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WOULDN'T TRIGGER ONE THE PROPERTY BUT WE DID IT ANYWAY JUST PROVE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT SO NO SIR THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THE PURPOSE OF VISIT YES, MA'AM. I'LL GET TO YOU IN JUST A SECOND. THE PURPOSE OF OUR OUR THING TODAY IS TO ALLOW US TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO TO MAKE THE DEVELOPERS AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT'S BEING SAID AND WHAT MAYBE MIGHT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND EVEN GOING BACK WITH THE DESIGN AND REVIEW MEMBER DID YOU EVER COME AND PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF? YES, THANK YOU. I'M KELLY WIGGINS.
I LIVE AT 30 WIMBLEDON COURT SO BEHIND THE YES RIGHT SUBDIVISION.
SURE. I MESSED UP THAT NAME. OH NO, NO.
AND SO MY CONCERN IS A LOT OF THIS SEEMS TO BE FOCUSING ON HOW FAR FIELD GOING TO BE IMPACTED VISUALLY AND STUFF. I'M MORE CONCERNED OF WHAT'S HAPPEN ON WIMBLEDON COURT.
IT'S A VERY NARROW TRANSPORT YOU KNOW THROUGH ARE WE GOING TO BE LOOKING A CONSTRUCTION SITE AND FOR LIKE WHEN IS THE STARTING WHEN IS THIS AND WHAT IS OUR BUFFER THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET ON WIMBLEDON COURTS? OKAY. THAT WILL YES, THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED I ASSURE YOU IF IT HASN'T ALREADY. ALL RIGHT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? IF NOT, WE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BOTH HERE TODAY AND ALSO WITH REGARD TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE SENT IN THROUGH THE PORTAL AND. WE WILL WORK WITH THE TOWN STAFF AND DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT AND THEN NICOLE, YOU SURE? YEAH.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT WE DID LOOK UP DRP APPROVAL AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WAS IDENTIFIED WAS TO STUDY ADDING A FENCE ALONG FALLOWFIELD ROAD WITH THE SUGGESTION OF A PIERCE BRICK WAS WAS IN THEIR NOTICE OF APPROVAL SO THE DRP DID DISCUSS A FENCE AND SUGGESTED IT THANK YOU THANK YOU. NICOLE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD ON THIS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT IN MIND, WE WILL TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPERS WILL AS WELL NEXT TO OUR AGENDA.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN MY AGENDA HERE. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE ALAMO AMENDMENT SECTION B AND THE ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE US THROUGH THESE I'M SORRY.
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YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE US TO THE ALAMO? YES, SIR.SECTION B THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. OKAY, SO I'LL BE PRESENTING THE PROPOSED ALAMO AMENDMENTS WHICH IS CONSIDERED TIER ONE OR NO NOS TIER ONE AT THE NOVEMBER AT THE NOVEMBER FIRST 2022 MEETING THE ALAMO COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AT THAT MEETING THE COMMITTEE AGAIN CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE DWELLING UNIT DEFINITION. THEY QUESTIONED WHY THERE IS A NEED TO CHANGE THE CURRENT DEFINITION AND HAD CONCERNS THAT THE PROPOSED REVISIONS MIGHT CREATE COMPLICATIONS WITH OTHER PROVISIONS IN. THE ALAMO EFFORT AFTER ADDITIONAL STAFF REVIEW IT WAS THAT THE CURRENT DEFINITION IS SUFFICIENT AND A DETERMINATION ABOUT WHAT CONSTITUTES A SEPARATE DWELLING UNIT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AND THAT PROPOSED AMENDMENT WAS PULLED FROM THE SET. IT'S NOT A RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TOWN COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL ANYTHING ELSE ON THESE ALAMO B.S. ANYTHING THAT ENDS YOUR DISCUSSION? OH NO. I WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF YOU TWO.
I THOUGHT THE TIME YOU'RE FINISHED YOU WANT ME TO RUSH ALONG, DON'T YOU? NO, NO, NO. THAT'S A TAKE YOUR TIME. OKAY, SO THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET IS THE THE PROPOSED REMOVAL OF STAFF GRANTED WAIVERS.
THIS WAS PROPOSED BY STAFF AND IS TO REMOVE ALL PROVISIONS ALLOWING STAFF GRANTED WAIVERS IT WAS DECIDED IT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A WAIVER OR VARIANT FROM THE CODE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS FOR REQUESTS FOR A VARIANCE SO IN YOUR PACKET ON PAGES ONE THROUGH SEVEN IT SHOWS ALL THE SECTIONS THE LANGUAGE IS EITHER PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED I'M SORRY. OH OH I APOLOGIZE. WHAT I'M REFERRING TO WAS THE DRAFTED THIS WELL IF YOU CAN JUST TELL US INSTEAD OF FOR SURE.
YES SURE I'LL DO THAT SO I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE SECTIONS THAT'S BEING REVISED AS THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE JUST BREAKTHROUGHS WITH REMOVING THE WAIVER LANGUAGE.
THERE ARE A FEW THAT I WILL EXPLAIN BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE IS BEING INSTEAD OF JUST ONE.
SO THE FIRST ONE DEALS WITH THE PROPERTIES FUNCTIONING TOGETHER WAIVER IT DEALT WITH YOU SET BACK AND BUFFERS AND IT WAS AMENDED SO THAT THERE'S NO ADJACENT USE SETBACK OR BUFFER REQUIREMENT FOR NON SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT AND ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT FUNCTION AS A SINGLE DEVELOPMENT DUE TO HAVING EITHER SHARED PARKING CONNECTING VEHICULAR ACCESS OR SHARED STORMWATER FACILITIES AND THE RECORDING OF A CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES WILL BE REQUIRED.
THE SECOND REVISION IS THE ACCESS TO STREET SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS.
THIS WAS AMENDED TO REMOVE THE OPTION FOR THE PROVISION IT TO BE WAIVED BUT LANGUAGE WAS ADDED TO ALLOW THE ACCESS POINT TO BE OPTIMALLY LOCATED IF BY MEETING THE SEPARATION REQUIRED ID IT WOULD RENDER THE LOT UNUSABLE. ONE THING I DID WANT TO NOTE IS THAT NUMBER THREE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO HAVE THE PACK IN FRONT OF YOU NUMBER THREE UNDER J ON PAGE FIVE WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THIS THE OTHER DAY I DID NOTICE THAT THE ADDED LANGUAGE IS IN THE WRONG SPOT. IT SHOULD BE INSERTED AT THE END OF THE FOURTH LINE BEFORE THE DASH INSTEAD OF AT THE END OF THAT PARAGRAPH THAT WILL BE FIXED GOING FORWARD.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND THEN THE THIRD REVISION DEALS WITH THE DRAINAGE DESIGN STANDARDS THESE WERE AMENDED TO REMOVE THE OPTION THE PEAK DISCHARGE REQUIREMENT TO BE WAIVED BUT LANGUAGE WAS OUT THAT STATES THAT THE PEAK DISCHARGE REQUIREMENT DOESN'T NEED TO BE MET IF THE APPLICANT DEMONSTRATE IT'S THAT THEY HAVE A SUITABLE MEANS OF FLOW INTO A DOWNSTREAM TIDAL DISCHARGE POINT ACCESSIBLE BY MEANS OF A RECORDED PERMANENT STORM EASEMENT THROUGH DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL CONVEY PEAK DISCHARGE FROM THE HUNDRED YEAR STORM WITHOUT ANY ADVERSE INPUT IMPACTS ON DOWNSTREAM PROPERTIES. SO THOSE WERE THE THREE CHANGES THAT DEAL WITH STAFF GRANTED WAIVERS THE REST OF THE LIST THAT'S UP ON YOUR SCREEN WE'RE JUST WHERE STAFF STRUCK THROUGH THE LANGUAGE AND REMOVE THAT PROVISION. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE? I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING BUT GO AHEAD PLEASE BEFORE THE NEXT AMENDMENT FOR THOSE THAT HAVE THE PACKET ON PAGE EIGHT IS TO ALLOW VARIANCES FROM ALL
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SECTIONS OF THE ALAMO OTHER THAN USE DENSITY AND HEIGHT AND NOT JUST THE SECTIONS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE ALAMO CURRENTLY. WHEN THIS INITIAL LIST WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, USE AND DENSITY WERE LISTED AS THE ONLY PROVISIONS YOU CAN NOT GET A VARIANCE FOR. IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE THAT MIGHT ALSO BE ADDED TO THE LIST THAT YOU CAN NOT GOING TO VARIANCE FROM AND THEREFORE IT'S BEEN ADDED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.WELL YEAH. LET ME ASK GROSSMAN IN TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE VERY PREVIOUS NAPKINS DOWN THERE SUPINE CIRCLE 45 IS THE LIMIT IN THAT AREA AND THEY WERE ASKING FOR AN ARCHITECTURAL VARIANCE OF UP TO 5510 EXTRA FEET FOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.
SO UNDER THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT WE NEVER BE ALLOWED TO ALLOW SUCH A VARIANCE.
NOW IF THIS GETS PASSED PROPOSED BY A PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AND TOWN NO YOU CANNOT GO TO BARRON'S FROM HEIGHT IN FROM THE FUTURE ONE IN THE FUTURE IF THEY WANT TO TALK LOUD YES ONCE STAFF'S ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION LIKE I SAID WAS JUST FOR USE AND DENSITY BUT HEIGHT WAS ASKED TO BE ADDED INTO WHAT CANNOT GET IT HERE NO THANK YOU THAT'S INTERESTING SO OKAY ALL OF THIS BASED THE FIRST PROPOSAL WILL YOU HAVE TO SEARCH FOR A FLAT TOP THIS EVEN THOUGH IT UGLY VERSUS A NICE PICTURE SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK THANK YOU WAS THE NEXT AMENDMENT ON PAGE EIGHT OF YOUR PACKET AS WELL IS TO ALLOW OUTDOOR SCREEN BIKE STORAGE IN THE LC AND CC ZONING DISTRICTS WHICH ARE THE ONLY TWO DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW BIKE BUSINESSES BUT NOT OUTDOOR STORAGE OF THEM. THIS AMENDMENT IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOARD OF APPEALS AS A RESULT A VARIANCE REQUEST PERTAINING TO BIKE BUSINESSES THE PAST FEW YEARS STAFF IS ALSO PROPOSING MORE SPECIFICITY RELATED TO THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT CONSTITUTES OUTDOOR STORAGE AS IT RELATES TO BICYCLE BUSINESSES ARE IN QUESTION HERE THE ARE WE SAYING NOW THAT IF THE BICYCLE SHOP OUTDOOR STORAGE OVERNIGHT WHATEVER THAT THEY NOW MUST FENCE THAT OR SCREEN IT IT NEEDS TO BE SCREENED IN THOSE DISTRICTS. YES. OKAY.
AND WHAT THIS WOULD DO RIGHT THIS ALLOWS FOR OUTDOOR SCREEN STORAGE IN THOSE TWO ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED IN THE DATA. THANK YOU.
THE NEXT ONE IS IRAQ ALSO A RECOMMENDATION THE BORDER ZONING APPEALS AND THE REQUEST IS TO REVISE THE USE CLASSIFICATION FOR MANUFACTURING SO THAT A BREWERY IS LISTED AS A MANUFACTURING USE BUT SO THAT SMALL SCALE BREWERIES SUCH AS A NANO OR MICROBREWERY ARE NOT CONSIDERED MANUFACTURING BUT CONSIDERED MORE OF A COMMERCIAL USE SIMILAR A BAR OR EATING ESTABLISHMENT COULD THE NEXT ONE ON PAGE NINE IS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION A RESULT OF THEIR REVIEW OF THE ANNUAL TRAFFIC REPORT PRESENTED BY STAFF THEY ASKED THAT JUNE TRAFFIC COUNTS BE REPLACED WITH JULY TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS PLAN STANDARDS NO THE SNACKS AMENDMENT WHICH IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND SEVERAL DEVELOPERS WE HAVE A QUESTION I'M SURE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BURDEN IS IT ALSO COUNTER TO STILL VERY SOON I THINK IT WOULD FALL IN LINE WITH THAT IS THIS NUMBER WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT YEAH THE REQUEST WAS SPECIFIC TO BREWERY BUT I THINK IT FUNCTIONS THE SAME AS A DISTILLERY WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE DEFINITION FOR ONE YEAR YEAH DON'T GET TOO UPSET WITH HAS BEEN LIKE OKAY SO THIS IS ON NINE THROUGH 11 OF YOUR PACKET AND IT AMENDS THE PROVISIONS FOR A TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE TO CHANGE WHEN PLANTINGS ARE REQUIRED ON SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND BUFFERS AS PART OF A SUBDIVISION CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE LANDSCAPING IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED TO BE PLANTED BEFORE A CFC ISSUED FOR A SUBDIVISION WHICH IS PRIOR TO THE HOMES BEING CONSTRUCTED.
THE LANDSCAPING IS OFTEN OFTEN DAMAGED DURING CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOMES SO THIS AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW A PERFORMANCE GUARANTEE OR BOND FOR A SPECIFIC OF TIME WHERE LANDSCAPING AND TREE PLANTING IS DEFERRED DUE TO INAPPROPRIATE WEATHER CONDITIONS FOR PLANTING OR THE LIKELIHOOD THAT TREES WILL BE DAMAGED DURING ADDITIONAL
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CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY RELATED THE SUBDIVISION THE SAID I'M SORRY WE CAN'T TELL YOU THAT IT WOULD APPLY TO FAMILY SUBDIVISION YES SIR. THIS NEXT AMENDMENT IS RECOMMENDED BY A BUSINESS OWNER AND IS ON PAGE AND 12 OF THE PACKET IS TO AMEND THE DEFINITION OF CHANGEABLE AS IT RELATES TO SIGNS TO ALLOW SIGNS TO BE CHANGED OR ELECTRONICALLY. CURRENTLY SIGNS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BE CHANGED ELECTRONICALLY AND THIS WOULD ALLOW A BUSINESS OWNER IN PARTICULAR A BUSINESS OF A GAS STATION HAD ASKED BECAUSE OF SHORT STAFFING IF THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT'S WORKING AT THE FACILITY AND THEY NEED TO GO OUT AND CHANGE THEIR THEIR GAS PRICES THEY WOULD HAVE TO LOCK THE STORE GO OUT MANUALLY CHANGE IT SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO CHANGE ELECTRONICALLY INSIDE THE STORE AND HELP THEM FUNCTION BETTER SO. THE SAME PROVISIONS ARE PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED AS WELL TO ALLOW THE SIGNS BE CHANGED ELECTRONICALLY AND THEY'LL BE LIMITATIONS ON THE FREQUENCY AND TIMING SO WON'T BE SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE A CONTINUAL CHANGE IN A MOVING SIGN TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT THIS NEXT AMENDMENT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF IS ON PAGE 12 THROUGH 15 OF THE PACKET AND IS TO AMEND HOW TO CALCULATION OF HEIGHT IS MEASURED TO ALLOW HEIGHT TO BE MEASURED FROM OR 13 FEET ABOVE MINE SEVERAL SEA LEVEL OR PRE-DEVELOPMENT GRADE WHICHEVER IS HIGHER.SO FOR EXAMPLE IF PRE-DEVELOPMENT IS 12 FEET FOR A NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT YOU WOULDN'T TO MEASURE HEIGHT FROM 11 FEET YOU WOULD WANT TO MEASURE FROM 12 FEET SINCE IT'S HIGHER SO HEIGHTS MEASURE FROM 11 OR 13 FEET DEPENDING ON IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AND THIS JUST IN THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT GRADE PROVISION THERE'S ALSO SEVERAL SECTIONS IN THE ALAMO THAT STILL MENTIONED HEIGHT BEING MEASURED FROM THE BFE BASED FLOOD ELEVATION. THESE SECTIONS WERE UNINTENTIONALLY LEFT OUT OR OVERLOOKED WHEN CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE ALAMO LAST YEAR WHEN THE NEW FLOOD MAPS WERE ADOPTED. SO THIS IS JUST BEING CLEANED UP WITH THIS AMENDMENT? NO, THIS NEXT AMENDMENT IS ON PAGE 15 OF YOUR POCKET AND AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR MINOR SUBDIVISIONS STATES THAT IT REQUIRES ALL THE SAME FOR A MAJOR SUBDIVISION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OWNERS CONSENT OPEN SPACE DEDICATION AND PHASING PLAN AND THIS AMENDMENT WILL REMOVE EXEMPTION FOR OWNERS CONSENT AS THAT SHOULD BE REQUIRED FOR ALL APPLICATION TYPES. SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF ANOTHER CLEAN UP AMENDMENT TO AND THE LAST ONE IS TEN ANOTHER AMENDMENT BY STAFF AND IS ON PAGE 15 AND 16 OF THE PACKET WHICH WILL AMEND PROVISIONS IN THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS FOR APPLICANTS WISHING TO MAKE CHANGES TO A PREVIOUSLY PLATTED SUBDIVISION CURRENTLY LOTS AND APPLAUDED SUBDIVISION CAN BE COMBINED IN A WAY THAT RESULTS IN AN INCREASE IN DENSITY OR ADDITIONAL LOTS. THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE REQUIRES THAT DEVIATION TO A PREVIOUSLY PLATTED SUBDIVISION RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WILL A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE'VE ADDED CRITERIA THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN USE WHEN REVIEWING THESE REQUESTS AND THIS AMENDMENT DOES INCLUDE PROVISIONS FOR PUBLIC REQUIREMENTS IN CHAPTER TWO AS WELL AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE AGAINST RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD THESE AMENDMENTS THE TOWN COUNCIL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO MENTION ALSO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC COMMITTEE IS THE NEXT STEP WHICH WILL BE ON JANUARY 26TH OF 2023. OKAY. THANK YOU, NICOLE.
THERE WERE TWO THINGS I WANTED TO BRING TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
IF I CAN GO BACK AND FIND MY SCRIBBLES HERE. OKAY.
ONE THING IN PARTICULAR AND THAT IS WITH REGARD TO THE VARIANCES ON HEIGHT FOR BUILDINGS I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THESE YELLOW NO AMENDMENTS AND ASK THAT THEY BE TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION BUT I WOULD ALSO ASK TOWN HALL TOWN COUNCIL TO CAREFULLY THE BUILDING HEIGHT VARIANCES FOR ARCHITECTURAL REASONS AND MAYBE COME UP WITH SOME SOME PARTICULAR STANDARD OR RATIO WE'RE IN WE COULD MAKE OUR BUILDINGS YOU KNOW ARCHITECTURALLY STYLISH AND AND NOT SQUARE BLOCKS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITS THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THAT AMENDMENT TO THE ALAMO BUT OTHER THAT I WOULD MOVE THAT THESE BE WITH THE PROVISO THAT THEY CAREFULLY
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CONSIDER THE VARIANCES HEIGHT THAT I WOULD MOVE THAT THIS BE MOVED ON TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION THEIR SECOND ASSESSMENT THANK YOU MR. VARIANCE AND THE OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE VOTE IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING SO OH OKAY YES SO WE ANYBODY OUT IN THE I KEEP THAT TO BE REMINDED ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TODAY WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THESE YELLOW ELEMENTS. YES SIR PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF DANIEL ANTHONY I HAD ONE ON THE CLARIFICATION ON THE SIGNS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN SAY.WHAT I'M ALLUDING TO IS IS THAT IF THEY'RE TO CHANGE IT ELECTRONICALLY, IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME KIND OF PROVISION KEEPS IT FROM BEING LIKE A NEON SIGN? YES, THERE THERE'S TIMING AND FREQUENCY PROVISIONS ADDED INTO THE LANGUAGE AND LIGHTING AND NEON SIGNS IS NOT ALLOWED IN OUR CODE . OKAY.
AND THE OTHER OTHER ONE I WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS THE HEIGHT ISSUE.
I LIKE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WAS SAID ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECTURE MAYBE HAVING THESE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME ARCHITECTURE SO THEY'RE NOT FLAT ROOFS BUT CAN THERE BE SOME KIND OF WORDING A PROVISION THAT IS ONLY FOR ARCHITECTURE BECAUSE? I CAN SEE WHERE IF WE ALLOW THEM TO DO THIS EXTRA FEET I DON'T SEE SOMEBODY COMING IN WITH ALL THE BUILDINGS OF DOING SOME KIND OF A YEAH. YOU KNOW SOME KIND OF LIVING SPACE PENTHOUSE IS ON TOP. EXACTLY. I APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT WAS THE GIST OF MY COMMENTS AS WELL. THE TOWN COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER SOME SORT OF A OF A STRICTER RULE AND THAT THAT MAKES SENSE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF SQUARE BUILDINGS THE ISLAND FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.
ALL RIGHT WITH THAT IS A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING? YOU SAW THE TOWN COUNCIL'S WITH MY ONE CAUTION. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE ON THAT ISSUE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, NICOLE THANK YOU.
LET'S SEE WHERE ARE WE NOW? WE'RE WE'RE THROUGH THE. OKAY.
NOW WE'RE ASKED TV STV 002403-2022 OCTAVIO ROMAN GONZALEZ OWNER OF A PERSONAL PROPOSES TO NAME A NEW DRIVEWAY LOCATED AT 24TH OR I DON'T WANT TO SAY ORANGE OR ORANGE LANE AND THERE ARE NO OTHER AFFECTED PARCELS YES PLEASE HAD A GOOD AFTERNOON JOE HAD A MR. DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF THIS WAS ONE WE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU PREVIOUSLY AND WE WERE ASKED TO RECONSIDER THE NAME FOR WE WENT BACK TO THE APPLICANT AND WE ASKED WE COULD USE A VARIATION OF ORANGE SO WE ARE MOVING FURTHER FORWARD WITH ORANGE TRACE SO THEY JUST A SMALL DRIVEWAY OFF OF ORANGE LANE YES THERE'S GOING TO BE A STREET SIGN A DOUBLE STREET SIGN THERE.
OKAY SO YEAH ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
WITHOUT OBJECTION I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ONE. JASMINE, WOULD CALL THE RULE ON THIS. MR. ENZO YES. YES.
THE HENS YES. CAMPBELL YES, YES. THANK YOU.
OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS STEED DV 002585 DASH TO 022 HANK OFFERED WITH BEEN OFFERED CONSTRUCTION COMPANY PROPOSES TO NAME A NEW STREET THAT WOULD BE LOCATED OFF JONESVILLE ROAD AND BEAUFORT COUNTY TAX MAP AND REGINA, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ALSO COVERING THIS. YES WILL BE PRESENTING THIS ONE AS WELL.
SO THIS ONE WE ARE PROPOSING TO TWO STREET NAMES ST GOT CUT OFF BUT SANDY OAKS DRIVE AND SANDY OAKS LANE THEY THEY ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING APPROVAL SO WE MOVED FORWARD WITH TWO NAMES IN CASE SOMETHING CHANGES THAT WE HAVE THE SECOND STREET NAME SHOULD WE NEED IT IS A T IT HAS A IT'S A T ROAD SO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT IN A MOMENT.
WE MAY DEPENDING ON HOW THIS SUBDIVISION ENDS UP WE MAY ONLY USE SANDY OAKS DRIVE.
WE MAY NEED IT TO CHANGE ITS LANE AS WELL IN CASE THERE IS SOME DEVIATION SO THE PROPERTY IS OFF OF JONESVILLE ROAD THAT IS PICTURE OF THE PARCEL YOU CAN SEE IS NEXT TO WALKING
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HORSE AND ACROSS FROM THE PADDOCKS. THIS IS WHAT THE SUBDIVISION LOOKS LIKE AND AND LIKE YOU SAID WE ARE PROPOSING TO USE SANDY OAKS DRIVE AND SANDY OAKS LANE. SANDY OAKS DRIVE WOULD BE THE MAIN ROAD AND LANE WOULD BE THE CROSS STREET. WE HAVE VETTED THE STREET NAMES .THEY'RE NOT DUPLICATED PHONETICALLY SIMILAR OR CONFUSED WITH ANY OTHER STREETS WITHIN HILTON HEAD OR THE COUNTY. OKAY ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. JUST A PET PEEVE.
NOTHING DO WITH THIS. HOW COME YOU NAME A STREET YOU KNOW SUNNI OAKS DRIVE SENIOR OAKS LANE SENIOR OAKS COURT BECAUSE WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS YOU WHERE THEY LIVE THAT'S I LIVE ON SANDY OAKS WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT A DIFFERENT NAME ALTOGETHER INSTEAD OF A COURT HERE AND A LANE THERE AND IN A ROAD THEY'RE JUST CURIOUS SO TYPICALLY IF THAT IS WHAT THERE ARE KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHIES. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT THE NAMES TO BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT THEM BE DERIVATIVES OF THE SAME THING AND GOING FORWARD WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT IF THEY ARE THE SANDY OAKS DRIVE AND SANDY EXPLAIN THAT THE NUMBERING IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME SUBDIVISIONS WHERE PREVIOUSLY IN ADDRESSING THEY GAVE THE SAME NUMBERS SO IT IS SOMEWHAT CONFUSING BUT SO WE WOULD NOT NOT THEY WOULD NOT THERE WOULD NOT BE A TWO SANDY OAKS LANE AND A TWO SANDY OAKS DRIVE THEY NUMBERING WE WOULD START THEM DIFFERENTLY. SO IN AREAS WHERE THE STREETS ARE TOGETHER SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS WANT NAMES TO BE THE SAME AND WE WOULDN'T DO IT LIKE WE WOULDN'T HAVE A SANDY OAKS LANE HERE AND A SANDY OAKS DRIVE ACROSS THE ISLAND BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD BE CONFUSING BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE A PART OF THE SAME SUBDIVISION AND WE ALLOW THEM TO USE A DERIVATIVE AND THAT FROM FIRE AND RESCUE ESPECIALLY IT DOES BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALL STILL IN THE SAME AREA. LIKE I SAID WE WOULDN'T LIKE LET SANDY OAKS DRIVE BE ONE PLACE IN SANDY OAKS LANE BE ON THE SOUTH END.
WE ARE NOT ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THE COMMISSIONERS IF NOT A MAN OF EMOTION SECOND TO ADOPT THIS ONE MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD YOU PLEASE OFFER A COMMENT SO PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ONLY PUBLIC EXCUSE ME ANY PUBLIC MEMBERS HERE WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM SEEING THEN WE WILL MOVE TO A MOTION AND VOTE A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS ONE HAVE MR. CAMPBELL SECOND MR. SIEBOLD ON FAVOR OH FIVE THANK YOU OKAY WE'RE NOW THANK YOU VERY MUCH ARE NOW GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME COMMISSION BUSINESS IN THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL VACANCIES ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THIS POINT I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH THE MAYOR AND THE TOWN MANAGER.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME SOME CHANGES HERE.
WE HAVE TO REPLACE MR. AH MAYOR AS THE WHO WAS VICE CHAIRMAN ON THIS COMMISSION AND SO I'M GOING TO NOMINATE MR. MARK O'NEILL. I KNOW MARK IS OUT THERE IN VIDEO LAND WATCHING US TODAY BUT I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MARK O'NEILL FOR THE JOB OF VICE CHAIR THAT WE HAVE A SECOND OVER HERE IS THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR THE COMMISSION IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR OF ELECTING MR. O'NEILL SO NEW VICE CHAIRMAN IS A UNANIMOUS VOTE ZIP AND NOW ALSO AS I MENTIONED MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION EARLIER TODAY WE HAVE VACANCY ON SOME OF OUR PLANNING THIS IS MY CHAIRMAN'S WORK FOR TODAY WE HAVE SOME VACANCIES OBVIOUSLY DUE TO ELECTIONS AND MR. ALFRED HAS MOVED ON TO TOWN COUNCIL MR. ALFRED BEING WITH US HERE TODAY AND OBVIOUSLY THE MAYOR HAS BEEN ELEVATED AND SO WE HAVE SEVERAL VACANCIES SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SOME APPOINTMENTS OF AT LEAST TWO INTERIM ON THE COMMITTEES SO THAT WE CAN OPERATE EFFECTIVELY UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE GET A FULL OF OF
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MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION AND THE MAYOR HAS TO NOMINATE OR A SELECT INDIVIDUALS AND IT MAY TAKE US AS MANY AS A COUPLE OF WEEKS TWO MONTHS IN ORDER TO GET ALL OF OUR COMPLEMENT ON HERE. SO I'VE ASKED MR. O'NEILL TO ALSO SERVE AS CHAIR OF THE SIP COMMITTEE AS OF TODAY AND MR. COMMISSIONER ENZO TO SERVE AS CHAIR THE ALAMO COMMITTEE AS OF TODAY AND MR. CAMPBELL TO SERVE VICE CHAIR OF THE ALAMO COMMITTEE AS OF TODAY AND MR. TO PLEASE CHAIR THE RULES AND PROCEDURES COMMITTEE AS OF TODAY.AND TOM, I NOTED TO YOU I AM AN EX-OFFICIO MEMBER OF THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE AND IN ORDER TO HAVE FULL COMPLEMENT YOU HAVE TO INVITE ME TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE AS A VOTING SO INVITED. BUT YOU HAD TO DO IT IN WRITING UNFORTUNATELY AND COPY MEMBERS OF THE STAFF SO YOU CAN INVITE ME TO BE A VOTING MEMBER OF YOUR COMMITTEE AND I'LL BE GLAD SERVE AS YOUR VICE CHAIR FOR RULES OF PROCEDURE. AS I SAY THESE ARE DUE TO THE VACANCIES THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE TO MAKE ALL THESE APPOINTMENTS AND.
I TAKE IT YOU'VE ALL AGREED TO THESE COMMITMENTS AND MR. DID SEND ME A A NOTE EARLIER TODAY SO I THANK YOU ALL FOR STEPPING UP DURING THIS INTERIM PERIOD UNTIL WE RECEIVE THE FULL COMPLEMENT OF OUR COMMISSIONERS . ALL RIGHT.
ARE THERE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS ANYBODY ELSE KNOW ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ON THE ALAMO COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU. OKAY.
AND THE OTHER COMMITTEES WANT TO MAKE A REPORTED THIS TIME IF NOT STAFF REPORTS WE'VE ALREADY COVERED THE ISSUE THIS IS NOT COMING FORWARD. MISSY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADD ON STAFF REPORTS? YES.
REAL QUICK I KNOW THAT LAST FALL WE WENT THROUGH RULES OF PROCEDURE AMENDMENT TO GO DOWN TO JUST ONE MEETING A MONTH. RIGHT.
OBVIOUSLY NOW WORK VOLUME FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS INCREASED AND WE'RE REVIEWING ALL OF THE SUBDIVISIONS AND MAJOR DEPARTURES INFORMATION PURPOSES.
WE'RE WORKING ON AN ALAMO AMENDMENT SET THAT COME THROUGH WHERE IT WILL BE REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT SHOULD COME THROUGH SOMETIME LATE SPRING EARLY SUMMER AND WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT A POSSIBLE TO THE RULES THROUGH THE RULES OF PROCEDURE COMMITTEE LOOK AT GOING BACK TO TWO MEETINGS PER MONTH. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON YOUR RADAR THAT WILL LIKELY BE LOOKING AT MAKING REQUEST TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMING FORWARD. OKAY. AND TOM, I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME TIMING ISSUES SO AS YOU LOOK AT GOING TO TWO MEETINGS PER MONTH ,KEEP IN MIND NOT ONLY THE DATES BUT ALSO THE TIMES THAT WE WOULD START THESE MEETINGS AND IF 2:00 IS THE MOST CONVENIENT TIME FOR TWO MEETINGS A MONTH THEN WE'D HAVE TO GO WITH THAT.
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR QUORUMS THAT THESE VARIOUS MEETINGS AND IF THERE IS ARE THERE ANY OTHER ISSUES TO COME BEFORE US TODAY? IF NOT, I BELIEVE IT'S TIME FOR ME TO CALL FOR ADJOURNMENT AND THIS MEETING IS NOW CONCLUDED. THANK YOU
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.