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[1. CALL TO ORDER – 2:00p.m.]

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STEINBERG I'M THE CHAIRMAN. WE WANT WISH EVERYBODY TO START OFF WITH HAPPY HOLIDAY IN THE MOON THE ONLY OF OBVIOUSLY THE GREMLINS YOU HEAR IS FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TO RECRUIT TODAY'S AGENDA. I HAVE A MOTION RECRUIT HIS AGENDA IN MOTION.

THANK YOU ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TWO VIEWS THE AYES HAVE IT THE GENDER IS APPROVED THE NEXT IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUSINESS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR COVID 19 MEETING I HAVE A SECOND TO APPROVE THEM IN 20 THE ATTENDANCE ROSTER TO LIKE I WAS IN ATTENDANCE ON THE COVID 19 80 TWO REVOLUTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDED MINUTES FROM MOVE WE HAVE A SECOND CIRCUIT ALL THOSE FAVOR OF APPROVING THE AMENDED MINUTES BY QUESTIONING I

[2. INTRODUCTIONS]

OCTOBER MINUTES ARE REMOVED AS CORRECTED AN NEXT INTRODUCTIONS START DAIS RIGHT NAMES THE CITY OF BEAUFORT JEFF AND GOING CANNON SUE ELLEN HIGHLANDS EAST JAMES CLERK PORT ROYAL AGAIN MARK FRIEDBERG I REPRESENT UNINCORPORATED DISTRICT NINE IN THE Q ISLAND IT WILL LARGE PATRICK MITCHELL REPRESENTING LADIES ON DENNIS ROSS WE THEN WILL STEP OVER STAFF SPENCER MORE FOR PERSONAL AND LOOK FORWARD AT WAR II. THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US TODAY AT THIS TIME WE WOULD ASK IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT DO RESERVE COMMENTS AND IT'LL BE FINE BEING THERE

[4. SPECIAL PRESENTATION]

NO OTHER COMMENTS WE WILL MOVE INTO THE SPECIAL PRESENTATION BY WILBERT INCORPORATED.

THIS IS THE ST HELENA HELENA DRAINAGE STUDY AND VERY LOUD PERSONS THE PROJECT TOO MUCH CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY LIKE THAT SORRY EVERYBODY. I'M CRYSTAL MUELLER.

I WORK WITH WILBERT. I WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR A WATERSHED STUDY HOW WE I LEARNED TO LISTEN WHAT WE DID IS WE DID KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL STUDY TO FIGURE OUT OBVIOUSLY THE ISLAND IS VERY IMPORTANT TO COUNTY ALL THIS REALLY AREAS YOU KNOW CULTURALLY HISTORICALLY WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERNS ABOUT FLOODING ON THE ISLAND AND THE COUNTY WAS INTERESTED IN KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT WAS CAUSING THAT FLOODING AND MAYBE WAYS TO KIND OF HELP ALLEVIATE IT NOW IN IN THE FUTURE. SO OH MY GOODNESS THE COLOR SCHEMES ON THE OAK OH SO JUST A QUICK AGENDA AS I MENTIONED GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY WE DID THE STUDY KIND OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT LOOKED AT EXISTING FUTURE CONDITIONS AND LOOKED AT STUDY FOUND AND THEN WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. CRYSTAL YES, IT'S CRYSTAL.

CRYSTAL CRYSTAL YES, THAT'S A CRYSTAL SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OH MONITOR UP HERE IS NOT ALL THAT'S GONNA MAKE IT EXACTLY I CAN GO AHEAD FAST YOU SEE WHO WOULD HELP TAKE A ONE MINUTE

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RECESS YOU YOU LIKE WHAT I LIKE WE HAVE A WHAT COLOR WERE THEY? WELL IT WAS LIKE A BLUE AND GREEN SO IT'S VERY INTERESTING WE CAN SEE LIKE THE COVER THE REPORT IS THAT YOU COLOR I MEAN IT'S FINE IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT ANYTHING JUST KIND OF THREW ME FOR A LITTLE BIT MY DAD LIKES GOOD IT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH DISCLAIMER THINGS I'M NOT JUST OVER ZOOM OKAY SO AGAIN JUST TO REITERATE THE PURPOSE WE KNEW THAT THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT FLOODING SO WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY WHERE THERE'S FLOODING TODAY AND LOOK AT WHERE THERE MAY BE POTENTIALLY FLOODING IN THE FUTURE DUE TO BOTH FUTURE LAND USE AND SETTLEMENT CONTINUES AS WELL AS SEA LEVEL RISE YOU WE ALL LIVE ON THE COAST WE LIVE ON THE COAST BECAUSE IT'S BEAUTIFUL BUT. WE ALSO HAVE TO BATTLE MOTHER NATURE WHICH WAS MOVING THIS CLOSE TO THE SEA AND SO YES, ABSOLUTELY. YES, VERY FAST.

ABSOLUTELY SLOWED DOWN THIS IS WHERE THE COLORS MAKE A LITTLE TOUGH ON US BUT THAT'S OKAY.

SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ISLAND WATERSHED THAT WE LOOKED AT.

SO WE LOOKED AT ABOUT 56 SQUARE MILES EVERY YEAR IT IS LARGELY WETLANDS MARSH OPEN WATERS HAVE AG FIELDS I KNOW THAT ON SAINT HELENA YOU GUYS HAD THIS CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY THAT REALLY CONTROLS WHERE DEVELOPMENT IS ALLOWED ON THE ISLAND WHERE IT ISN'T YOU DO HAVE SOME LOW MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THAT'S REALLY OF CENTER ALONG THE MAIN ROADWAY IS THE ISLAND AND AGAIN IT'S JUST IT'S VERY HEAVY ON MARSH AREAS.

SO LOOKING AT IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT NOW THAT'S A GRAPHIC MAP SO THAT LIGHTER AREA KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE WHICH IS RIGHT ALONG THE ISLAND GOT ELEVATIONS AS HIGH AS 39 FEET WHICH IS ACTUALLY PRETTY AREA AND THEN IF YOU GET DOWN CLOSER TO THE WATER THOSE DARKER COLORS ARE LOWER IN ELEVATION SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE MAP TO THE RIGHT THIS IS IF YOU LOOK AT SCHEMA AND YOU LOOK AT FEMA'S FLOODPLAIN MAPS, THEY SHOW YOU THAT 100 YEAR 1% CHANCE STORM THIS IS THE FLOODPLAIN THEY DESIGNED SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW IT LINES UP WITH THOSE LITTLE AREAS WHERE THAT WATER IS GOING TO KIND OF COME UP LARGELY ON THE ISLANDS. IT'S GOING TO BE DUE TO STORM SURGES AS TO KIND OF IGNORING THAT WE GET MORE INLAND. SO THESE ARE TWO TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT THE WATERSHED THAT WE ALREADY KNOW SO THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE LOOKED AT FOR FUTURE LAND USE CONDITIONS.

WE WANTED TO BE REALISTIC KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE THAT COASTAL OVERLAY AND KNOWING WHERE YOU HAVE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT WHERE MIGHT BE AN ELEMENT.

WE DIDN'T JUST WANT TO SAY WE'RE GOING MAKE SURE EVERYTHING AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY EVERYTHING IS DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THAT'S REALISTIC.

SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT FUTURE LAND USE LOOKED AT DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE ROADWAYS INCREASING AND THEN ANYTHING ABOVE ELEVATION SIX PEOPLE LIKE TO BE WATERFRONT.

THEY DON'T LIKE TO BE IN THE WATER YOU KNOW, REAL ZONING TRY TO SELL YOU THOSE HOUSES.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART YOU SEE HIGH TIDE HITTING YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE GONNA BUY A HOUSE.

SO WE ASSUME THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ABOVE ELEVATION SIX AND THEN IN THE PARCEL WAS ALREADY DEVELOPED ABOVE 25% IN PERVIOUS SO IT HAD SOME KIND OF BUILDING ON IT WE ASSUMED IT WOULD STAY BUT IF IT WAS AN UNDEVELOPED PARCEL AND EMPTY LOT, MAYBE A BIG PARCEL WITH JUST LIKE ONE SMALL BUILDING YOU ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD GO UP TO 25% IS SO WHAT WE TRIED TO SHOW IS FUTURE LAND USE WHERE AREAS ALONG THE ROAD KIND HAD AN AVERAGE OF A RESIDENTIAL AND SO THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FUTURE IS CONDITIONS YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SEA LEVEL RISE IF YOU LIVED ON THE COAST FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME YOU KNOW THE SEA LEVELS RISING. NOAH AGREES.

SO THIS GRAPH THE TOP KIND OF SHOWS IT'S BY NOAH AND IT SHOWS THE SEA LEVEL RISE FROM 1800 TO DATE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S RISING RISING AT A MORE RAPID RATE RECENTLY THOSE COLOR LINES ARE THE PROJECTION ,YOU KNOW, FROM FROM BEST CASE TO WORST CASE PROJECTIONS THE NEXT 50, 100 YEARS. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PLANNING POTENTIALLY AND WE

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NEED TO KIND OF BE CONCERNED AND AT NOT QUITE WORST CASE BUT ALMOST WORST CASE AND.

SO WHAT STEPHEN RECOMMENDS DOING WITH OUR CRC PROGRAM WE AT THIS STUDY IS WE LOOKED AT THAT INTERMEDIATE HIGH YOU CAN SEE IS THAT GREEN LINES THE THIRD FROM THE TOP.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A TWO AND A HALF FOOT RISE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE STARTED THIS STUDY AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT CHART AT THE BOTTOM IT SHOWS THE BLUE IS WHAT IT TODAY IN ORANGE WOULD BE THE TIDE CYCLE AT TWO AND A HALF YOU GUYS SOUNDS SCARY BUT LET'S TALK A LITTLE MORE ON WHAT THAT MEANS.

NO VIDEO. YES, SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND SO WE DEVELOPED A 2D RISE MODEL AND SO I'LL TALK ABOUT IT AS IT'S RUNNING. IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE GRAPHS ON THE RIGHT THE BOTTOM IS THE TIDE AND TOP IS THE RAINFALL. IT SHOULD JUST START PLAYING RIGHT. THERE WE GO. AND SO WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IS TIDE AND SO WHAT WHAT KIND OF INFLUENCE THE TIDE HAS THE ISLAND AS THE TIDE LEAVES AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE RAIN START BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE HAD A BIG RAINSTORM ALWAYS HITS A HIGH TIDE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MOTHER NATURE MANAGES IT BUT IT ALWAYS SEEMS HAPPEN. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THE RAINFALL IS COMING. IT'S FILLING IS THESE AREAS ON THE ISLAND AND YOU'VE GOT THE HIGH TIDE SO IT HAPPENS ON THE TIDES HIGH IS THAT WATER HAS NOWHERE TO GO SO SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER WHEN LOOKING AT NEW STUDIES IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE TIDE DOING, WHAT'S THE RAINFALL DOING, HOW ARE THEY INTERACTING AND YOU CAN SEE AS THE TIDE GOES OUT SOME OF THAT WATER FROM THE RAINFALL IS LEAVING BUT NOT ALL OF IT.

AND SO IT KIND OF SOMETIMES TIDE CYCLES BEFORE THAT RAIN THAT'S SITTING ON THE ISLAND ACTUALLY. AND SO THIS VIDEO I SHOULD HAVE PREFACE TO SAY THAT THIS IS A 100 YEAR STORM EVENT WITH TWO AND A HALF FEET OF SEA LEVEL RISE.

THIS IS KIND OF LIKE WORST CASE WHAT WE MIGHT SEE IN 50 YEARS. SO WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS IN ON A FEW AREAS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ISLAND WE RAN THAT MODEL WE LOOKED AT WHERE WE HAD AREAS OF CONCERN SO WE IDENTIFIED 24 AREAS WHERE WE HAD FLOODING THAT WAS AT LEAST SIX INCHES DEEP BECAUSE THE WAY THESE MODELS RUN OFF IS LESS THAN SIX INCHES. YOU MIGHT GET SOME ROAD INUNDATION FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BUT IT'S NOTHING WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS TOO MUCH ON AT THIS LEVEL AND THEN WE REALLY FOCUSED ON TRYING TO MEET THE 25 YEAR STORM EVENTS WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT AND WE ALSO REALLY FOCUSED ON COUNTY OWNED ROADS. WE'RE LOOKING AT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE. THAT'S WHERE THE COUNTY OBVIOUSLY HAS THE MOST CONTROL OVER REALLY CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS WE CONSIDERED WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE AREAS AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO RUN THROUGH ALL 24 BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN THAT FOR ME BUT WE'LL JUST TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THEM JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT'S IN THIS REPORT. WE TALK ABOUT EACH OF THE 24 AND ALL OF THE MAPS ARE IN THIS REPORT FLAT. JUST LOOK AT A COUPLE OF JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE DID. SO ZONE ONE AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME CONDITIONS FLOODING AND THAT LATER BLUE IS FUTURE CONDITIONS.

SO THAT IS TWO AND A HALF FEET OF SEA LEVEL RISE AND THAT IS BETA CONDITION DEVELOPMENT AND SO YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THESE AREAS FLOODING IS A LITTLE WORSE.

FUTURE CONDITIONS YOU KNOW YOU'RE BATTLING TWO THINGS. YOU'RE BATTLING A LITTLE BIT MORE DEVELOPMENT AND YOU'RE BATTLING THAT WITH THAT OCEAN'S HIGHER.

THE WATER IS ABLE TO GO SOMETIMES. SO THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF FLOODING NEAR ROADWAYS. NOTHING TOO CRAZY THAT'S GOING ON HERE. AND THEN IF YOU KIND OF LOOK AT ZONE TWO, YOU CAN SEE AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THESE RIVERS, THESE WATER BODIES SEE THAT WATER SPREADS OUT A LITTLE MORE IN CONDITIONS. YOU KNOW, THE SEA'S HIGHER. THE WATER'S GOING TO ESPECIALLY DURING HIGH TIDE. SO YOU'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF BUILD UP BEHIND THE ROAD BUT STILL NOT A WHOLE LOT GOING ON AND THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE BEHIND OR ISLAND ROAD IS SOME FLOODING IS SOMETHING TO NOTICE IN A LOT OF THESE IS WE DIDN'T REALLY SEE A LOT OF STRUCTURAL FLOODING YOU'RE DEFINITELY TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WATER IN THEIR YARDS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE WATER IN THE FOR A LONGER AMOUNT OF TIME.

BUT AS FAR AS THE AREA OF AN INVASION HITTING THE HOUSES, IT WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF THAT GOING ON. SO THERE'S SOMETHING TO REALLY THINK ABOUT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS SO NOW WE WANT TO KNOW HOW WE CAN FIX IT, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE CONCERNS FOR THE AREA. THERE IS SOME FLOODING GOING ON. WHAT CAN WE LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MITIGATE THIS FLOODING SO WE DO THESE TYPE OF STUDIES, WE TRY TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENT AREAS GREEN BEING WHERE IF WE DID AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT WE'RE FOCUSING RIGHT NOW ON INFRASTRUCTURE PUTTING BIGGER PIPES ON THE GROUND AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S A HIGH CHANCE OF IMPROVEMENT THAT AS A GREEN BOX. YOU SEE THERE'S NO GREEN ON

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THIS MAP. WHAT WE REALLY FOUND IS THAT OF THE 24 ZONES WE LOOKED AT WE HAD SIX WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE SEEN THE COLORS HERE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL ORANGE COLOR, ISN'T IT? WHERE WE HAD SIX ZONES WHERE WE HAD SOME MINOR ASSOCIATED WITH INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. THEN WE HAD 13. WE'RE REALLY JUST DIDN'T SEE ANY IMPROVEMENTS. SO LET'S DIG IN A LITTLE MORE. WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE SAME THREE ZONES EARLIER. SO IN THIS SITUATION WE'RE LOOKING AT EXISTING CONDITIONS AND CURRENT SEA LEVEL AND THEN FUTURE CONDITIONS ON THE RIGHT AND THIS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING HERE IS WE LOOKED AT THE GROUND AND WE LOOKED AT TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WE COULD EITHER DOUBLE THE CAPACITY OR WE COULD JUST PRETEND THERE WERE PIPES THERE SAY THERE'S A BIG SPAN BRIDGE SO WE TOTALLY OPENED THAT AREA SO THERE'S NO RESTRICTION AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYTHING. SO WHAT THESE MAPS AND THE LIGHTER COLOR BEHIND WOULD BE THE FUTURE CONDITIONS IF WE DIDN'T SEE IMPROVEMENTS AND A DARKER COLOR WOULD WITHOUT THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE LIGHT BEHIND BECAUSE IT REALLY JUST HAD NO IMPACT. SO INCREASING THE CAPACITY IN THIS AREA REALLY DIDN'T IMPACT ANYTHING IN TRYING TO SEE. SO YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S JUST WHERE THE WATER ELEMENT THEY ARE CONTROLLED FACTOR TWO ZONE TWO WAS IN ORANGE SO THIS YOU CAN SEE IF YOU CLICK MORE IT SHOULD ZOOM IN ON THAT AREA A LITTLE BIT. AND SO RIGHT AT SEA ISLAND FRANKLY THAT LIGHT BLUE IS IF WE IMPLEMENTED IMPROVEMENTS WHICH MEANS INCREASING THE CAPACITY UNDER THE ISLAND PARKWAY YOU DO SEE LITTLE BIT OF A REDUCTION IN FLOODING THIS LOCATION WE'RE PROBABLY SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF ROADWAY FLOODING AND INCREASING THE CONVEYANCE WOULD DECREASE THAT FLOODING AND THEN JUST LOOKING AT THAT LAST ZONE WE LOOKED AT EARLIER WHICH IS THEN 24 OR 23 EXCUSE ME YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF IMPROVEMENT AGAIN IF WE THIS IS THAT ZONE THAT HAD A LITTLE BIT OF BACK WATER BEHIND THAT ROADWAY INCREASE IN THE CONVEYANCE CAPACITY UNDER THAT ROAD WOULD, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE FLOODING.

YOU'RE NOT REALLY DOING A WHOLE BY MAKING THOSE PIPES BIGGER. WE WISH THAT WASN'T THE CASE BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE FLOODING IS JUST ASSOCIATED THE OCEAN AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGHT WHICH IS MOTHER NATURE. SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE? WHAT CAN WE DO BECAUSE I BASICALLY SHOWED YOU THAT WE HAVE FLOODING. WE KNOW THERE'S FLOODING.

IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET WORSE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS WHERE YOU COULD DO SOME STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE FLOODING LIKE THAT ZONE TWO I SHOWED YOU SO WE IDENTIFY THESE FIVE LOCATIONS WE PUT SOME KIND OF CONCEPT LEVEL COST TO AND IT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP THE SITUATION SOME THINGS YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER IS HOW MUCH WOULD IT WHAT ARE YOU IMPROVING AND WHAT'S THE COST BENEFIT RATIO WHEN YOU IMPLEMENT THESE IF YOU'RE NOT HAVING STRUCTURAL FLOODING NOW YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF INVESTMENT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IN SO OH GOSH THIS IS GOING TO COLORS ARE NOT GOING TO HELP NOW YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE WORDS ARE SHOWING UP SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO COME WITH SOLUTIONS, RIGHT? WE DON'T JUST WANT TO SAY WELL THE MODEL SHOWED THAT BIGGER PIPES WOULDN'T HELP. WELL THAT'S NOT A SOLUTION. SO WHAT DO WE DO? WELL, YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT IN PLACE THAT DOES A LOT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT NOT ONLY PROTECTS THE ISLAND AND PROTECTS THE HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL MEANING BUT IT ALSO MAKES SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING IN DEVELOPMENTS THAT WOULD WORSEN THE SITE. ANOTHER THING YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IS YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR ORDINANCES, YOUR REGULATIONS, EVERYTHING THAT HAVE THAT CONTROLS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS IN LINE WITH MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY FLOODING WORSE.

SO MAKING SURE THAT IF THEY ARE DEVELOPING FOLLOWING THE STORM WATER AND MAKING SURE THAT RUNOFF NOT FLOODING ANYBODY DOWNSTREAM, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS SO YOU KNOW, RELOOKING AT YOUR POLICIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS REGULATIONS EXCUSE ME.

SO WHAT ELSE CAN WE SO WE CAN LOOK AT BUILDING A RESILIENT COMMUNITY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS KNOWLEDGEABLE WHAT'S GOING ON? PUBLIC HAS THIS INFORMATION AT THEIR DISPOSAL. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WHERE CAN LOOK AT THE FEMA MAPS, THEY UNDERSTAND HOW TO IDENTIFY THEIR HOUSE AND THE CHALLENGES THAT MAY FACE IN THEIR HOUSE TODAY AND 50 YEARS FROM NOW. ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER YOU GUYS AT THIS COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM THROUGH FEMA WHICH IF YOU TAKE ACTIONS TO PROTECT YOUR COMMUNITIES IT DECREASES THEIR FLOOD INSURANCE RATES. SO IT'S A WIN WIN FOR BOTH YOU'RE YOUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S DECREASING. YES.

QUESTION NUMBER WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN A RESILIENT COMMUNITY.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS THERE OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL BUILDING? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE LASTING. WHAT DOES IT SAY RIGHT UNDER THERE? CAN YOU SEE IT ON YOUR SCREEN? YEAH.

REALLY INTERESTING. YEAH. TALKING MORE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO NOT BUILD IN THESE DANGEROUS AREAS BUILD IN

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AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE YOU KNOW BE IN OF FLOODING IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'S THE SIERRA SHE DOES CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED AS JARECKI THANK SO SO NO I'M SORRY I'M DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE TALKING FAST SO FEMA HAS A PROGRAM CALLED THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? I'M REALLY OKAY. OKAY.

AND SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS IS COMMUNITIES LIKE THESE ARE REGULATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR DEVELOPMENT IS DONE IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY AND THEN FEMA CREDITS FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE SAID THAT THE COMMUNITY IS TAKING STEPS TO PROTECT THEIR CITIZENS AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE STEPS BY MAKING CITIZENS FLOOD INSURANCE RATES LOWER AND THIS IS YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE HYDROLOGY STUDIES KIND OF HELP WITH THIS PROCESS AS WELL BECAUSE YOU YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY ENCOURAGE COMMUNITIES TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR SYSTEMS. SO THAT'S MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH BY THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE COUNTY OR CITY OR TOWNSHIPS OR IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THIS.

YES. AND I MEAN AND SO THEN KIND OF BUILDING ON THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION EDUCATION, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING COMMUNICATION CONTINUING JUST MAKING SURE THAT RESIDENTS KNOW WHERE TO FIND DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED, MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE FACING THEM. YOU GUYS DO A REALLY GREAT JOB OF THAT ALREADY THIS STUDY GOING TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS ISLAND'S REALLY GOING TO FUTURE AND HOW TO RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITIZENS. THANK YOU.

AND SO WHAT ARE WHAT ARE KIND OF THE TAKEAWAYS ALL OF THIS THE FLOODING THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE ISLANDS THAT YOU'VE SEEN HAPPEN TO DATE THAT YOUR RESIDENTS HAVE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION OF FLOODING THIS MODELING IS SHOWING HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE? IT'S REALLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE AREA AND THE CLIMATOLOGY OF THE AREA MORE THAN IT IS UNDER SIZE INFRASTRUCTURE OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY WE CANNOT JUST PUT IN BIGGER PIPES. WE ALSO CANNOT JUST PUT UP A WALL TO HOLD BACK THE OCEAN IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO TRY TO STOP FIGHTING OCEAN AND WORK WITH IT. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE SURE OUR COMMUNITIES UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE AND HOW THEY CAN TAKE STEPS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES THEIR HOMES IF THEY ARE GOING TO FACE DAMAGES, HOW THEY CAN KIND OF AFTER THAT AND IT'S THINGS OF THAT NATURE YOU YOU GUYS TO YOUR QUESTIONS YEAH KRISTEN DID YOU CONSIDER DOING ANY ITERATIONS OF THE MODEL WHERE YOU WERE INCORPORATING THAT FLOW PREVENTION IN THE PIPES SO WE DIDN'T BECAUSE IT REALLY WASN'T MOST OF THE IMPACTS THAT WE SAW WERE JUST WHERE THE WATER HAD NOWHERE TO GO AND IT WAS GOING AREAS IT REALLY WASN'T CONTROLLED BY THE PIPES IN THOSE AREAS BUT NO WE DID NOT BROKE DOWN.

YOU KNOW THE QUESTION WAS AGAIN THIS WOULD BE A TIME FOR CITIZEN PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS TO THE SPEAKER WAIT I HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANGLE AND YOU THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID IT'S FINE. I THANK YOU, CRYSTAL.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[5. REPORTS]

WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE ADMINISTRATION REPORTS UTILITY UPDATE KATIE COURIER OR STORMWATER MANAGER HELLO WAIT TILL I GET SLOWED IT UP AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

PERFECT, PERFECT. YOU ZOOM IN A LITTLE. OH PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT. SO STARTING WITH THE REGIONAL WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION LATER ON THIS AFTERNOON AND AS OF RIGHT NOW WE STILL HAVE YOU FOR A COUNTY TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND THE CITY OF BEAUFORT THAT HAVE ADOPTED THE SOLO COMMUNION .

WE ARE WE MET A FEW MONTHS BACK TO TALK ABOUT SOME NEW ITERATIONS TO THAT MANUAL TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. AND AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE ALL WORKING ON THIS TOGETHER, WE WANT TO DO THAT IN SYNC WITH ONE ANOTHER WE SEND THAT

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INFORMATION TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND LATER ON WE'LL HEAR FROM JULIANA ABOUT SOME PROPOSED MANUAL CHANGES WE HAVE BASED ON THOSE REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS.

SO WHAT WE DO HAVE KIND OF RUN TO THE END OF OUR SPECIAL PRESENTATION LIST.

SO IF THERE IS ANY SUGGESTIONS COMING FROM YOU ALL ABOUT WHO YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TO ENTERTAIN YOUR SUGGESTIONS. WE HAD A ORIGINALLY WORKS WITH A CONCRETE PIPE MANUFACTURER. WE FELT IT MIGHT BE MORE OF A SALES PITCH THAN SOMETHING INFORMATIONAL FOR YOU ALL SO AGAIN IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT AND PLEASE FREE TO LET US KNOW WE WILL BE WORKING INTO THE SCHEDULE NEXT YEAR A DOING A SPECIAL PRESENTATION ABOUT THERE BEING A MEMORIAL SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR THAT.

PLEASE LOOK OUT FOR THAT AS AS NEXT YEAR'S SCHEDULE IS CONCERNED WE STILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH GENTRY LOG ON DELINQUENT TAX ACCOUNTS AND THE ANNUAL REPORTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FROM ALL BUT TWO OF THE MUNICIPALITIES SO IF YOU HAVE NOT TURNED THAT IN PLEASE SO GOING INTO THE REPORT UCB IS NOT HERE TODAY THE MOST WE DO CONTINUE TO MONITOR BASED ON THE RAINFALL WE'VE BEEN KIND OF FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD TOO MUCH OF THAT BUT THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH EVERYTHING WE NEED TO GET QUARTERLY FOR THE STATE OF SOUTH REQUIREMENTS THAT THE COUNTY HAS BOTH THE TOWN WITH DR. WARREN LEAVING THE UNIVERSITY THEY REQUESTED THAT A NEW POINT OF CONTACT BE APPOINTED FOR THE LAB AND WE HAD DECLINED THEIR REQUEST FOR THE DOCTOR THEY PRESENTED IN FAVOR OF DANIEL WHO HAS RUN THAT LAB FOR THE LAST 11 YEARS SO. THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING OF NOTE TO DISCUSS FOR THE UCB LAB UPDATE ARE WE SAYING THAT THE LAB MANAGER WILL BE THE POINT OF CONTACT AND BE THE LEAD PERSON IN THE UCB LABORATORY? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? YES DIRECTOR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MANAGER IS THAT THE SO YOU'RE MM IS SHE A WORKING MICROBIOLOGIST? I CANNOT THINK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT DANIEL'S ARE BUT SHE DOES HAVE HER MASTER'S IN SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

SHE'S FULLY I JUST WONDER IF WE'RE PUTTING MORE ADMINISTRATIVE WORK ON HER.

DO WE ANOTHER MICROBIOLOGIST IN THE LAB HAVE THEY LOOKED AT THEIR STAFFING AND GOTTEN BACK TO YOU? THEY HAVEN'T MENTIONED ANYTHING TO US ABOUT NEEDING ADDITIONAL STAFF. SHE IS SUPPORTED BY A FIELD PERSON AND THEN DANIELLE RUNS ALL OF THE ANALYSIS SO THAT HAS NOT COME UP DURING CONVERSATION .

THEY DID JUST RECENTLY GO THROUGH THEIR QUALIFICATIONS AND PASSED EVERYTHING NECESSARY SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM FOR THAT THEY'RE IN A CRITICAL WAY. YES.

YES. THEY'VE CONTINUE TO HOLD THEIR ACCREDITATION.

YES. ALL RIGHT, IAN, THE STORMWATER IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO UPDATE ABOUT THAT. BUT SEEING AS IT IS BUDGET SEASON WE WILL BE GETTING TOGETHER RELATIVELY SOON TO TALK ABOUT OUR CONTRACTS ONCE GIVING SUCH BAD FEEDBACK BUT NOTHING TO REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE MOVING STORMWATER RELATED PROJECTS. JULIANNA GOOD AFTERNOON. A LOT OF THESE STORMWATER PROJECTS CARRYOVER AND YOU SEE THE CONSTRUCTION SO I'M JUST GOING TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT'S IN THE PACKET. WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH JAY CONSULTING ON THE SHELL POINT PROJECT AND MEET WITH THEM WEEKLY TO CHECK UP ON PROGRESS. THE WORD YESTERDAY IS THAT PREVIOUSLY WE LEARNED FROM NCDOT THAT NEED TO USE THE SOUTH CAROLINA UNIT HYDROGRAPHIC METHOD TO FOR PERMITTING PURPOSES AND SO THAT WAS GOING TO BE ANOTHER LEVEL EFFORT IN THE MODELING AS WE LOOK TOWARDS GETTING THOSE. SO THAT WILL EXPAND THE SCOPE AND IMPACT THE MODEL THAT THEY HAVE GOING ALREADY THE SCOPING FOR THE SEPARATE PROJECT MANAGEMENT TASK ORDER WAS APPROVED OF MOVED FORWARD UNDER THAT AND THEN WE ARE AWAITING

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THE TASK ORDER ONE SCOPE FOR THE SURVEY AND SOME ENVIRONMENTAL WORK WITH THE PROJECT SET OUT ON THAT. SO I EXPECT THAT TO BE BACK IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS.

WE'LL REVIEW AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WORK FROM THERE. JUMPING DOWN TO NUMBER EIGHT NORTH AND BESSIE'S LANE PROJECTS ARE IN TWO DIFFERENT AREAS BUT AS YOU MAY REMEMBER HAVE EXTREMELY SIMILAR SCOPES. WE LUMPED THESE UNDER THE ON CALL STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICE REQUESTS FOR QUALIFICATION. WE GOT ONE SUCCESSFUL BID BACK AT THE TIME THAT I'VE PREPARED THIS PACKET WAITING ON THE CONTRACT BUT THAT CAME THROUGH YESTERDAY SO WE WILL SCHEDULE A KICKOFF MEETING WITH THE AND IRON OUT HOW WE WILL HANDLE THAT AND THE PROJECTS OUT THERE HORN PARK THE FINAL PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATORY FEASIBILITY REPORT WHICH WE CALLED FOR WAS DONE FOR APPROVAL AND SENT TO THE STATE CONSERVATION.

IT IS NUMBER FOUR ON THE LIST IN THE PRIORITY RATINGS AND WE HEAR GOOD THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING THAT WE HEARD BACK FROM THE PITCHFORD CONTRACTORS THIS MORNING THAT THEY'VE COMPLETED THEIR PORTION ARE SENDING THE DATA TO SEE US SO WITH THAT I WILL MOVE TO PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTS CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE AT BROOME MEMORIAL PARK EXCEPT FOR TWO PUNCH LIST ITEMS WE COMMISSIONED ONE OF THEM. IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXTRA FINANCIAL EFFORT THAT LAST WEEK AND I'M WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE CONTRACTOR WHEN THAT WILL BE SCHEDULED. WE HAVE HELD THE GRAND OPENING EVENT UNTIL A FEW OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE MADE BUT WE'LL BE SURE LET KNOW ABOUT THAT.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU THERE. EVERGREEN REGIONAL PINES PAST CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ON NOVEMBER 18TH. AND SO WE HAVE FULLY PAID THE CONTRACTOR AND HAVE STARTED OUR COUNTY MAINTENANCE ON THAT. WE CONTINUE TO WORK WORK WITH WILBERT AND THE SCOPE THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TODAY IS SCOPE NUMBER TEN FOR THE LADIES ISLAND DRAINAGE STUDY AREA AND I MET WITH KRYSTAL AND HER TEAM ON NOVEMBER 17TH TO GET SOME OF THAT PRELIMINARY DATA AND IT WAS TO LOOK AT SO I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU ALL TO SEE THAT WHEN IT'S DONE JUST LIKE WE HEARD FROM THE ST HELENA STUDY TODAY WE CONTINUE TO OUT THE RIVERS IN STUDY SO WE HOPE TO HAVE AN OFFICIAL FOR THAT SOON. ANY QUESTIONS? ONLY THAT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THE EVERGREEN VISITATION MEETING I THOUGHT EXTREMELY WELL DONE. KATIE'S PICTURE IN THE LOCAL SUN WAS WELL RECEIVED GOOD PRESS FROM THE STORM WATER BOARD AND THE MANAGEMENT OF STORM WATER IN THE COUNTY.

HOPEFULLY CAN CONTINUE WITH VISITS LIKE THAT AND WE'LL LOOK TO YOU TO TELL US FROM THE RELATED PROJECTS THAT YOU JUST LISTED WHERE A FIELD TRIP WOULD BE WARRANTED SUCH AS LIKE THE GRAVES PROJECT WHEN IT'S FARTHER ALONG MAYBE NOT WHEN IT'S FINISHED BUT WHEN IT'S YOU KNOW, PRETTY CLOSE TO COMPLETION WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO VISIT SOME OF THOSE SINCE.

THERE'S SIX OR SEVEN ON THE LIST THAT ARE GOING THERE MEMORIAL PROJECT COMES TO MIND.

WELL AGAIN KATIE WAS LOOKING FOR SOME YOU KNOW WHERE WE SHOULD GO NEXT YEAR ON LEAVING THE CONFINES OF THE BOARD SO I THINK IT HELPS TO ACTUALLY VISIT SEE WHAT'S ON AND WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT AND I THINK THAT'S PART AND PARCEL OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO PLAN THAT SOMETIME IN THE FALL .

OKAY. THANK THANK YOU. YOU WANT TO CONTINUE.

SO FOR REGIONAL COORDINATION SORRY HYPERSENSITIVE WE REALLY NOW REGIONALLY WE'RE WORKING ON THE EFFORT WITH THE MORE LIKE LIKE I MENTIONED JUST TO ADD ONE MORE THING TO WHAT SHE'S PREVIOUSLY SAID WAS THE THE APPROVAL AT THE STATE LEVEL HAS HAS HAPPENED THEY HAVE SENT THE PLANNING PHASE OF THAT PROJECT SO ROUGHLY $4.6 MILLION UP TO THE FEDERAL LEVEL FOR APPROVAL SO THEY ARE ANTICIPATING IT'S GOING TO COST ABOUT $1,000,000 FOR THE PLANNING EFFORT TO GET ALL OF THE PROJECTS BE PROVIDED TO THEM DONE. SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL HEAR GOOD

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NEWS FROM THAT I KNOW THEY MOVE A LITTLE BIT ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE SEQUESTRATION.

SO I GUESS SINCE REPORTS ARE UP I'LL KIND OPEN THE FLOOR AS MY PARTNER AWAY.

NOTHING THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO I'LL JUST REAL QUICKLY THAT WE ARE UP THE ADOPTION OF THE MANUAL TONIGHT OH SO LOOK I MADE SOME I MEAN IT IS VALUE TO BE ACCURATE.

YEAH WELL WERE THOSE BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE FOR THE CITY OF I JUST WANT TO ADD THE CONTRACTOR HAS FINISHED THE DREDGING IS THE HOME THAT WAS BETWEEN VALLEY CREEK ROAD AND BASIN FLAP GATE SO NOW THAT IS ALLOWING FOR THE DRAINAGE TO GO THROUGH SOUTHSIDE WHICH HELPS AREN'T THERE BY STREET NEIGHBORHOOD OUTSIDE ANYTHING THAT MR. RYAN ANYTHING NOT I HAVE NOT GOT ANY EMAILS OR ANYTHING BUT I HAVE RAN INTO HIM AND HE SAID THAT SINCE WE LOWERED THE CHECK DAM THAT HE'S HAD SIGNIFICANTLY LESS FLOODING SO MAYBE TO ANOTHER MINE SO AS FAR AS THE OF HILTON HEAD WE GOT QUITE A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON WITH THE END OF THE YEAR COMING UP AND LOOKING AT FISCAL 24 BUDGET SEASON ON THE IMMEDIATE HORIZON WE HAVE A KIND OF AN AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE FOR PREPARING OUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET THIS YEAR EVEN MORE AGGRESSIVE NOW. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO PLAN ON DOING IS TAKING A LOOK AT THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE AND CONTEMPLATING AN INCREASE.

SO WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF ROUGHING OUT THE RATIONALIZATION THAT WHICH INCLUDES AN INCREASING FREQUENCY OF DEFICIENCIES IN THE EXISTING SYSTEM GOSH THAT'S REALLY DISTRACTING IN AN INCREASING INCREASING RATE OF DEFICIENCIES.

SO WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE OF OUR OLDER SYSTEM FAILING AND WE CAN KEEP UP AS IT FAILS AND GET NOT JUST REACTIONARY BUT A PROACTIVE COMPONENT TO OUR SYSTEM AND ALSO AS WE LOOK TOWARDS FORMALIZING A RESILIENCE POLICY OF THE TOWN AS WE'RE LOOKING AT CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE EFFECTS ON MORE INTENSE STORMS AND SEA LEVEL RISE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING DOING A LOT ON THE ISLAND IS PROBABLY RETROFITTING SOME OF OUR MORE PIPES WITH BACKFLOW PREVENTION DEVICES SO THAT COST IS GOING TO BE RECOUPED AS WELL AND WE STILL HAVE TWO MORE PUMP STATIONS TO OVERHAUL THAT WE'VE DONE TO SUCCESSFULLY AND WE'VE GOT TWO MORE TO GO. UM, THEN ON THE ON THE REGULATORY SIDE WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING SINGLE VALLEY RESIDENTS TO OUR ROUTINE VERTICAL INSPECTIONS. WE DO NOT DO THAT ON THE ISLAND AS OF TODAY BUT IT'S TURNED OUT THAT OUR BIGGEST VIOLATORS ARE THOSE DRIVE BYS SEE EVEN THOUGH THEY SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT SAYING THEY WILL MAINTAIN THE SEDIMENT ON THE SITE. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND THAT'LL PROBABLY MORE THAN DOUBLE OUR NEED FOR INSPECTION .

SO THAT WILL PROBABLY REQUIRE ADDING ANOTHER POSITION IN THE UTILITY.

AND LASTLY AS OF TODAY THIS DOESN'T START CHARGE A STORMWATER REVIEW FEE FOR ANY SORT OF ANY SORT OF PERMIT REVIEW. WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING FEES TO TACK ON FOR PERMIT APPLICATIONS FOR STORMWATER BE WE'RE DEVELOPING THOSE COSTS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ASKING YOU KATIE AND SOME OTHERS ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS ARE IT WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT AND YOU TALK ABOUT ARE YOU KNOW INCLUDING SINGLE RESIDENTIAL AS A MATTER OF FACT SORRY ABOUT THAT AT THE END DAY AWESOME YOU'RE ALL MST FOR THAT'S LISA AND AS FOR SAYING SO PERFECT UM LET'S SEE WE CONTINUE TO PUMP OUT LOTS OF PLANNER VIEWS AND PERMANENT ASSURANCE FOR WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY AND AS DROPPING OFF SLIGHTLY BUT WE'RE

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STILL KIND OF MOVING FULL STEAM AHEAD OUR TOUCHING BASE ON THE PLAN REVIEW PORTION WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO POTENTIALLY DO WITH OUR REVIEWS BUT AGAIN STILL SEE A LOT GOING ON HERE AND COUNTY AND JUST IN THAT SAME TOKEN WE CONTINUE TO AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL OUR CREWS IS VERY BUSY BECAUSE OF HOW WE'RE DOING IN THE COUNTY. WE DID PUT A VACANCY OUT FOR A SENIOR INSPECTOR AND AS OF RIGHT NOW THAT POSITION HAS BEEN FILLED.

WE ANTICIPATE NEW SENIOR INSPECTOR TO BEGIN WORK THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR SO JANUARY 3RD WE SHOULD HAVING SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN I'M GOING TO DELEGATE THIS SECTION OF REPORTS TO THEM SO YOU'LL PRACTICALLY NEVER HEAR FROM ME AGAIN.

THE MASS FOR PORTION YES. YEAH THAT'LL BE THEIR REALM AND SO SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS PERSON STARTING UM AS FAR AS D Y GENERAL PERMIT UPDATES SO THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO BE SAID WE HAD OUR FINAL END OF THE YEAR SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION OF STATE MEETING IN COLUMBIA IN EARLY NOVEMBER AND I WAS NOT THERE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING COMING UP FOR THE PERMIT SIDE OF THINGS FOR US WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THAT THOSE RMS FOR PERMITS TO BE UPDATED AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ZONING AND THE INDIGO FOLKS OUR PERMITS THE PLAN IS ONCE WE DO HAVE OUR SENIOR INSPECTOR COME ON BOARD WE ARE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE REVIEWING ALL THE PERMITS IN-HOUSE RIGHT NOW ZONING KIND OF HANDLES THESE FAMILY HOME REVIEWS FOR US AND THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR THAT TO BE ALL HOUSED WITHIN STORMWATER.

SO ONCE WE'RE STAFFED THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO START TAKING THAT OVER THE FENCE.

IT'LL KEEP SOMEBODY VERY BUSY. YES. YEAH.

AND THEN I KNOW ELLEN'S HERE. SO HOW ABOUT MAPS? PUBLIC EDUCATION.

WE WERE GOING TO GO TO MAT NEXT BUT WE CAN LET EM SPEAK SINCE IT SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE NEED OUTREACH AND PART OF WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER SOUNDS LIKE IT'S RIGHT DOWN YOUR ALLEY.

YES, IT'S IT'S EXCITING. I ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE A SMALL BASIS FOR DOING EDUCATION ALREADY READY TO GO AND WAY FOR YOU. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO TALK TO KATIE MORE ABOUT AND MAKE THAT WE GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION ACROSS.

SHE DOESN'T NEED IT MOST BUT THE SUMMER HAS BEEN REALLY INTERESTING MONTHS.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF HOME VISITS AND PHONE CALLS PULLED OUT PARTICULARLY IN THE SEA ISLANDS AREA. SO I'VE BEEN ON SAINT HELENA AND LADY'S ISLAND MORE OFTEN THAN NOT THIS MONTH SO THAT'S BEEN GREAT TO MEET SOME NEW FACES, TALK TO OTHER FOLKS.

BUT THE BIGGEST UPDATE I HAVE IS THAT WE'RE BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF CREATING OUR ANNUAL REPORT FOR NEXT YEAR AND I GOT THIS LOVELY UPDATE THAT I ACTUALLY PRINTED OUT FROM SIERRA HEALTH IN THE SHE'S ONE OF THE POOR NEIGHBORS FOR THE SOUTH CAROLINA ADOPTED STREAM PROGRAM ALONG WITH THE CENTER FOR EXCELLENCE. UM, I AM ONE OF THE LOCAL SALTWATER TRAINERS FOR THIS PROGRAM BUT SINCE JUNE 2021 WHEN WE LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM THERE BEEN OVER 185 SAMPLING EVENTS IN COUNTY WHICH MAKES IT THE FASTEST GROWING PROGRAM ADOPTION HAS EVER HAD. WE HAVE 29 SITES ADOPTED IN THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE 43 ACTIVE VOLUNTEER HOURS CONTRIBUTING DATA LOOK THROUGHOUT TIME PERIOD 321 VOLUNTEER HOURS DRIVEN AND DONATED AND OVER 1300 MILES TO GET TO THESE SITES AND BACK AS WELL AS CONTRIBUTED IN TERMS OF VOLUNTEER $10,000 $10,386 BECAUSE OF THEIR LABOR IN TERMS OF THEIR AND THEIR EXPERTIZE TO GO OUT AND DO THESE SAMPLING SITES AND WE HAVE 100 VOLUNTEERS CERTIFIED IN THE COUNTY WHICH MAKES US ALMOST HALF OF THESE SALT WATER PROTOCOLS VOLUNTEER DAYS CURRENTLY TOTALS 215 THROUGHOUT THE STATE SO.

I CAN'T TAKE ALL THIS CREDIT MYSELF CHRIS YOU'RE THE NATIONAL ROSANNE FOUNDATION HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN PARTNERING WITH THE DOWNSTREAM AND PARTNER NATION TO GET ALL OF THESE VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS OUT. HE IS AN AMAZING, AMAZING ADULT.

SO IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T SEEN HIM ,JUST MAKE SURE TO THANK YOU FOR HELPING WITH THE ADOPTION PROGRAM. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ADOPT A STREAM I AM VERY WITH ADOPT THE HIGHWAY I HAD A LOCAL GROUP OF ONE OF 90 SOME IN THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY HAS A

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FULL TIME PART TIME ADOPTIVE COORDINATOR ARE YOU LOOKING ARE YOU FEELING THAT BASICALLY FOR THE COUNTY OR IS THE COUNTY THINKING ABOUT CREATING AN ADOPT A STREAM COORDINATOR TO BROADEN THAT REACH? SO YOU HAVE STREAM PROGRAM ALREADY HAS COORDINATORS BECAUSE IT IS A STATEWIDE PROGRAM DOES TACKLE BOTH SALTWATER AND FRESHWATER ONE COORDINATOR IS SIERRA HELTON AND I WORKED CLOSELY WITH HER AS I SAID MYSELF AND CHRIS COOPER ARE SORT I FIND SALT WATER PROTOCOL TRAINERS SO WE'RE THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR VOLUNTEERS IN THE AREA BUT ALSO THERE ARE SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE LOOKING TO GET TRAINED TO BECOME TRAINERS NEXT YEAR TO BECOME A TRAINER YOU NEED TO BE A YEAR WITHIN THE PROGRAM AND HAVE SEVERAL SAMPLING OF YOUR BILLBOARDS. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAM BEFORE YOU GO AND A TRAINER SO IT IS EXPANDING NEXT YEAR SO WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE MORE TRAINERS ON BOARD AND TO GET EVEN MORE PEOPLE OUTSIDE. CONGRATULATIONS KNOW IT'S NOT REALLY YOU THE COUNTY SO WE'RE NOT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN ADOPT UP THE HIGHWAY YEAH AFTERNOON AFTERNOON AFTERNOON. THIS REPORTING PERIOD YOU HAVE FIVE MAJOR PROJECTS FOCUSING ON THE SAME AREA AND A TOTAL COST OF $174,057.40. OUR MAINTENANCE PROJECTS IMPORTANT THROUGH THE COUNTY WHY THEY NEED TO PUSH THE ROADSIDE THROUGH A TOTAL EXPENSE OF 208 $1,559.09. IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD THAT WE HAVE INTO THE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THAT WE DON'T GET THEM OUT HERE IN FRONT OF US THAT OFTEN SO THERE'S A GOOD TIME TO TAKE A AND TAKE A SHOT HOW YOU CAN THANK YOU I'M GOING TO THANK YOU MA'AM.

NOW IT WOULD BE TIME FOR OUR LAYS ON REPORT. UNFORTUNATELY MISS HOWARD ISN'T HERE. SADLY, I HOPE SHE'S ALL RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING IN HER REPORT SO THERE HAVE YOU MAY HAVE SEEN ON SOME OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF DISCUSSIONS BUT THEY ARE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY DO A LAND FOR SOME FACILITIES THAT ANOTHER PORTION ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY WANTS SEE A LIBRARY AND SOME GOLF FIELDS AND ARE IN PARTICULAR EYEING TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY THE EVERGREEN PROPERTY AND THE NEW LEAF PROPERTY. SO WE JUST BUILD EVERGREEN REGIONAL POND AND THEN WE HAVE THE NEWLY PROPERTY WHERE THE OKC WEST POND IS.

THE STORMWATER UTILITY DID HELP FUND A PORTION OF THOSE BOTH OF THOSE PROPERTY PURCHASES AND SO NEXT I'LL BE GOING OUT WITH THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND TEAM ALONG WITH MS. HOWARD AND OTHER COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING AS AS A LAND SWAP IS CONCERNED CERTAINLY SINCE BEING WARD ONE OF APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF THESE TWO PROPERTIES IS INFORMATION THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO BRING BACK TO YOUR ATTENTION AND I WILL BE GETTING MORE INFORMATION I SAID NEXT WEEK ON WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED. I DID TO I KNOW MS. HOWARD'S BEEN VERY IN OUR DISCUSSION AND THOUGHT I SHOULD MENTION IT THANK BUT I HAVE A QUESTION YOU MAY HAVE AN ANSWER.

I'M SURE YOU DO. IF NOT THE LADY BEHIND YOU WILL YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT WE'VE SPENT SOME MONEY FROM YOUR BUDGET ALREADY IN THIS. NO, WE PREVIOUSLY WHEN WHEN THE COUNTY WENT INTO CROSSHAIRS ON THE PURCHASE THE STORMWATER UTILITY DID PROVIDE PORTION OF THOSE FUNDS. I THINK WHAT BUDGET YEAR WAS THAT IS A WHILE AGO.

IT'S NOT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT RECENT. NO I THINK GOING TO BE BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER SEEING THE BUDGET I REMEMBER VERY BUT WE DID WE DID IT DID WE DID FUND IT AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE FUNDED THE PROJECT IT'S ON THE SITE AS WELL.

YES. I HAVEN'T SEEN WHETHER SITE PLAN LOOKS LIKE I KNOW A LOT

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OF THE PROPERTY OR ESPECIALLY ON THE EVERGREEN TRACK BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY 20 ACRES, A LOT OF IT IS WETLANDS AND SO THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH ROOM TO WORK WITH FROM WHAT I CAN TELL THOSE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD BE SUBJECT IF THEY WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STATUS OF THE SOLAR SO. SO AGAIN THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WAS ON AN UNINCORPORATED LAND IS COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY WITHIN THE TOWN. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. I THINK I'M NEXT AGAIN.

WELL I WAS GOING TO ASK IS THERE ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS THAT ANYONE HAS TO BRING UP

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SAYING THAT THERE'S NONE WILL MOVE INTO NEW BUSINESS? ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT NEXT YEAR'S SCHEDULE AND CREATED THIS SCHEDULE USING HONESTLY WHAT WE'VE THIS LAST YEAR AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION IMPORTANT TIMES THAT THE DEPARTMENT MAY THOSE INPUT AND SPECIFICALLY AROUND APRIL MAY TIMEFRAME WHEN WE'RE GETTING INTO BUDGET APPROVALS IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BRING AMENDMENTS ON WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FACE TIME WITH YOU ALL SO THIS SCHEDULE I'M PROPOSING IS I THINK SEVEN SEVEN MEETING DATES THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THEM ALL BE RESERVED HERE IN THIS ROOM AT 2 P.M. BUT CERTAINLY ARE QUITE A FEW FIELD TRIPS FOR MEETINGS. SO I ALREADY HAVE IN MIND BUT AT LEAST TO GET THIS PLACE RESERVED IN THE EVENT YOU CAN'T BE IN THE FIELDS AND THE SCHEDULE GOES THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATOR OFFICES. CORRECT BEFORE NO.

OKAY. YOU ALSO SO IN THAT CASE I JUST WANT TO BRING TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE MEETING EVERY MONTH AND THEN WE MOVED TO QUARTERLY AND THEN WE MOVED TO BI MONTHLY MEETINGS WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

IF I LOOK AT THIS RIGHT WE'VE GOT A FEBRUARY MEETING NOT A MARCH AND APRIL MEETING AND THEN A MAY MEETING BACK TO BACK RIGHT WHEN WE SKIP JUNE WE GO TO JULY, WE SKIP AUGUST OR SKIP OCTOBER NOVEMBER AND THEN WE HAVE A BACK TO BACK DECEMBER MEETING.

IS THAT OKAY? THE SCHEDULES IF I REMEMBER WE VOTED ON THAT WE ALSO AGREED THAT THERE WOULD THAT INTERVENING MONTH WE'D BE ABLE TO FILL FOR IF WE HAD A FIELD TRIP OR SOMETHING FIELD TRIPS OR LIKE VOTING ON AN EMERGENCY PLAN OF ACTION THAT THE COUNTY COME UP WITH THINGS LIKE THAT IT'S AN OPTIONAL OBJECTIVE. YES.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MEETINGS FIT MAJORITY OF OUR SCHEDULES AND HAVE A QUORUM FOR WHICH I THINK IT'S GOOD I DON'T HEAR ANY OBJECTIONS. IT DOES FOLLOW THE THIRD WEDNESDAY.

YES. SO EXCEPT FOR DECEMBER BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE 20TH JUST LIKE THIS I THINK. GOOD OKAY I'M SO I WILL SEND THAT TO THE STAFF OVER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU MR. CORBETT .

SO FIRST I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE STORMWATER PERMIT PLEASE.

WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY CHARGE FOR A PERMIT TO SAYS THAT IS THE PERMIT FEE NOT A REVIEW FEE. WE CHARGE $25 FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND $75 FOR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S A ONE TIME PERMIT IN FY 22 WHICH WAS LAW OF 2021 THROUGH THE END OF JUNE 2020 TO SEE THE REVENUE THERE OVER $13,000 GENERATED FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SO OVER 1600 DOLLARS FOR A COMMERCIAL FOR TOTAL OF $15,300 GENERATED FROM THOSE PERMIT FEES. WHAT WOULD EXCUSE ME WHAT KIND OF TASTES SINCE THERE WASN'T VERY MANY OF THE COMMERCIAL LIKE WHAT KIND OF COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE NOT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO IT'S ANYTHING BASICALLY

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THAT'S NOT A SINGLE FAMILY. YES, SIR. THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S EASIER TO EXPLAIN BY TELLING YOU WHAT'S NOT COMMERCIAL SUCH AS THAT FOR WHOLE DEVELOPMENTS AND JUST THE BUILDINGS THAT IS WHOLE DEVELOPMENTS.

GOOD QUESTION. DOESN'T SEEM QUITE EQUITABLE DOES IT? HENCE WHY I'M BEFORE YOU TODAY THAT'S WHY IF THERE WAS A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRIAL PARK SO TO SPEAK THAT C COVERS THE ENTIRE PARK NOT IF YOU SECTION OUT OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR INDIVIDUAL BUILDING. IS THERE ANOTHER C AT THAT POINT? IT DEPENDS ON THE WAY YOU WERE TO SECTION IT OUT IF.

YOU PUT IT OUT IN A FORMAL PHASE AS ZONING DEFINES A PHASE A PROJECT AND IT WOULD BE ANOTHER $75. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A LESS FORMAL PHASE A $75 BECAUSE IT'LL COVER SEVERAL BUILDINGS THE INDUSTRIAL PARK SAME WITH SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE PHASED OUT THEY HAVE TO GET A NEW PERMIT EVERY TIME BUT SINCE IT IS A PERMIT FEE ANYTHING UNDER THAT PERMIT AND THE LAND DISTURBANCE THERE IS UNDER THE FEE IS A ONE TIME FEE.

I'M NOT SURE IF I SAID SO CONSIDERING THE WORK AND TIME INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THESE REVIEWS AS WE LOOK TOWARDS BRINGING THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES UNDER OUR STORMWATER UMBRELLA TO REVIEW AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN WHAT WE AND WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS CHARGE WE PROPOSE CHANGING THESE FEES SO TO GIVE A TEMPERATURE ON WHAT OTHER PLACE IS CHARGED THAT'S THE FIRST PLACE WE WENT. WE LOOKED AT PROGRAMS OF BOTH GEOGRAPHIC PROXIMITY AND CALIBER SO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CHARGES $250 PER DISTURBED ACRE AS A PLAN REVIEW FEE. SO NOW INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT PERMIT, WE'RE LOOKING AT PLAIN REVIEW FEES BECAUSE OFTENTIMES A LOT OF EFFORT SO MANY HOURS GO INTO A PLANNER REVIEW FOR A PROJECT THAT WILL NEVER GET A PERMIT. THEY ALSO $350 PER DISTURBED ACRE CHARGE A WAIVER REQUEST FEE AND THEN THERE IS A STRUCTURE FOR RESIDENTIAL REVIEW FEES. THEY ALSO CHARGE INSPECTION FEES SO THOSE CAN BE SEEN AND I WON'T READ THEM OUT. WE LOOK TO CHARLESTON COUNTY WHO CHARGES $100 TO REVIEW A RESIDENTIAL CLIENT $100 IF YOU'RE DISTURBING HALF AN ACRE OR LESS IN A COMMERCIAL $200 IS DISTURBING UP TO AN ACRE YOU CAN SEE THE RATE STRUCTURE THERE.

THEIR STRUCTURES SEEM TO FOLLOW DEFECTS. AFTER A CERTAIN POINT I NOTICED WE THAT THEY CHARGED A MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN REVIEW FEE CHARGED FOR MAJOR MODIFICATIONS VARIANCES AND THEN HAD A DISCOUNT FOR AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECTS.

WE LOOKED AT THE TOWN OF SUMMERVILLE AS WELL. HILTON HAS A SUGGESTION THEY DO NOT CHARGE A FEE IF THE RESIDENTIAL LOT IS UNDER AN ACRE BIT OVER AN ACRE SEE RATE STRUCTURE THERE THAT ALSO INCLUDES A REASONABLE THEY CHARGE A SEPARATE FEE OR SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS FOR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THEN THOSE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS IF HALF AN ACRE OR GREATER ARE SUBJECT TO A $400 PER DISTURBED ACRE FEE WITH THREE SUBMITTAL FEES AFTER THE FIRST REVIEW IT'S CHARGE A MAJOR MODIFICATION FEE AND THEN CHARGE IF YOU ARE APPLYING FOR A VARIANCE. SO WITH THAT WE BASICALLY MADE A MENU AND I SAT DOWN AND WROTE ABOUT WE WANT OUR FEES TO REFLECT SO WITH THAT WE PROPOSE REVIEW FEES OF $100 FOR A RESIDENTIAL LOT $250 PER DISTURBED ACRE COMMERCIAL PLAN . AND THEN WE DID LIKE THE IDEA OF A RESUBMIT FEE OR PROJECT THAT HAVE GREATER THAN FIVE COMMENTS OR A CONVERSATION THIS MORNING.

THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS THAT COVER A MULTITUDE OF COMMENTS AND SO IF THAT WERE THE CASE $150 PER DISTURBED ACRE PROJECT NEEDING TO COME BACK A $500 MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN REVIEW FEE AND A $200 WAIVER REQUEST BIG NUMBERS GIRL WE LOOKED AT WHAT THE PROJECTED REVENUE WOULD BE TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SO INSTEAD OF THE FISCAL YEAR I QUERY TODAY TO TODAY A YEAR AGO FOR THIS WE GAVE OUT 718 RESIDENTIAL PERMITS DURING THAT TIME SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE WOULD BRING IN OVER $71,000 AND THE DIFFERENCE THERE IN THE RESIDENTIAL FEES HAD TO MAKE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS WHEN ASSUMING COMMERCIAL REVENUE ASSUMED AN AVERAGE OF ACRE AND A HALF DISTURBED AREA WHICH IS PROBABLY ON THE SIDE 40%

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OF PROJECTS WITH A RESUBMIT FEE WHICH MAY ALSO BE ON THE CONCERNS AND MASTER PLAN REVIY THE EXPERIENCE WITHIN THAT TIME THAT QUERY SAID THAT GENERATED $12,410 IN REVENUE WHICH IS A DIFFERENCE OF OVER $10,000 FOR THE REVIEW FEES.

SO ALL OF THIS TO SAY IT'S FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES PURPOSES WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE NEED FORMAL APPROVAL THIS BASED ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR ORDINANCES AND THINGS. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, WE'RE LOOKING AT A POSITIVE BUDGET ELIMINATING A SHORTFALL OF $65,000 IS IF ALL YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE CORRECT BUILDING GOES ON AND THERE'S THAT MANY MORE PERMITS HAPPENING.

I WOULD ASK MRS. WALLACE WHO'S INSTRUMENTAL IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS IS THAT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE THAT $65,000 TO OUR TOTAL BUDGET AND WILL HELP YOU IN STORM WATERS REVENUES OR MONEYS? WELL I THINK THE THE REVENUE HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COST OF THE EFFORT OF REVENUE FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND THE FACT WE ARE ADDING A SENIOR INSPECTOR TO THE ACQUISITION AND ALL ABOUT WITH SALARY AND WE'VE BEEN IT WOULD BE THIS WOULD DEFINITELY HELP OFFSET THAT SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT WHAT THE WHAT THE UTILITY HAS FOR WHAT THAT EFFORT IS COST TO THE GOTCHA SO THIS WOULD BE A BETTER REPRESENTATION THAN THE FIRST ONE SO IT'S DEFINITELY MORE EVERY BIT OF HOUSING. SO RIGHT NOW THE EFFORTS EATING INTO OUR BUDGET AND THIS WOULD HELP OFFSET THAT ADDITIONAL PERSON DEFINITELY I MEAN I THINK I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS WON'T TO GO TO THE COUNCIL I'M SURE THEY'RE I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME LEGAL MACHINATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON WHETHER IT GOES THERE OR NOT.

BUT I THINK THAT WE VOTE AS AS A STORM UTILITY TO ASSIST YOU IN SAYING TO THE COUNCIL THAT WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS AND OVERWHELMINGLY VOTE FOR IT MAY HELP YOU IN THAT AREA WHETHER IT GETS THE BOARD APPROVAL OR NOT. AGREED WE CERTAINLY ARE TRYING TO MAKE OUR REVENUE BUT WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING, WHAT GIULIANI EXPERIENCES THERE IS A LOT OF EFFORT THAT GOES IN ON HER TO REVIEW THESE PLANS AND THERE'S VERY, VERY LITTLE INVESTMENT ON THE DEVELOPER'S END FOR THEM EVEN IF THEY DON'T A PERMIT.

YOU'RE SPENDING A LOT OF RESOURCES EVEN THEY DON'T COME IN THERE I UNDERSTAND WORK WORK WE'RE DOING WORK WITH WHETHER IT GETS TO A PERMIT PHASE OR NOT IS IRRELEVANT ALREADY EXPENDED THE WORKFORCE SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO REASSESS THIS AS A REVIEW FEE INSTEAD OF A PERMIT FEE AND. WHEN I INITIALLY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE LEGAL TEAM THEY THOUGHT WAS TRYING TO CHANGE THE UTILITY FEES. SO OF COURSE THAT THREW UP A LOT OF RED FLAGS. BUT AS WHAT I READ OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADOPT REVIEW FEES BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY LANGUAGE SAYING WE HAVE TO VOTE ON WHAT THOSE FEES ARE. BUT AGAIN WE'LL FLUSH THOSE FINER DETAILS OUT.

BUT WE WANTED TO BRING WE THOUGHT THIS MADE A LOT OF SENSE WHAT JULIAN IS PROPOSING AS FAR AS UPDATING OUR REVIEW SCHEDULE AND CERTAINLY IF YOU HAD ANY COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK FOR US FOR US TO CONSIDER BEFORE BRING YOU BACK IN THE EVENT WE NEED A VOTE WELL, OUR VOTE WILL BE JUST TO RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THEY APPROVE THIS WE CAN AT THIS STAGE WE HAVE TWO CHOICES WE CAN EITHER DIGEST IT FOR THE NEXT ONE OR IF WE FEEL THAT IT'S WARRANTED BASED ON THE INFORMATION JULIANNE IS PROVIDED, WE COULD VOTE TODAY FOR A RECOMMENDATION WE CAN MOVE IN RECORD RECOMMEND SO YOU HAVE THAT WITH YOU WHEN YOU TALK TO LEGAL AND NO MATTER WHERE IT GOES HAVE OUR RECOMMENDATION IF THAT'S THE CASE WELL I'M NOT SURE FROM HEARING TALK YOU'RE NOT SURE THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO CORRECT DECISION STILL PROPOSING I THINK THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING OH IT IS I THOUGHT HE SAID YOU ARE STILL COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE IT SHOWS THE ACTUAL FEES THOUGH SO ONE OF THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS HAD BECAUSE AGAIN WE KIND OF LOOKED FROM A MENU WE TALKED BECAUSE WE'RE WE LIKE SOME OF WHAT THE TOWN BLUFFTON CHARGES WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING

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A SOLO GO FEE AND WHEN WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION DURING OUR REGIONAL MEETING THERE WAS SOME PUSHBACK AGAINST CALLING IT A SOLO MOVIE BECAUSE SOME OF THE JURISDICTIONS NECESSARILY COMFORTABLE JUMPING TO THAT LEVEL OF COST AND SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ADD AS AN APPENDICES TO THE MANUAL AND WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING JUST A SUGGESTION SUGGESTED FEES SCHEDULE IN THE MANUAL BUT IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT IS SPECIFIC.

YOU HAVE TWO THINGS YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THE SOLO WHICH YOU COULD HAVE A SUGGESTED FEE AS PART OF YOUR MANUAL. HOWEVER YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL FEE SCHEDULE FOR YOU FOR COUNCIL FOR US BECAUSE AGAIN WE ARE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT IN WHAT WE'RE DOING AND SO THAT WAS ONE ANOTHER PLACE FOR US TO BE CONSISTENT YOU BLUFFTON WHAT IS CITY VIEW FOR HEAD AND FOR WHAT ARE THEIR CURRENT FEES? I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. I'M NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER TODAY SO ZERO OKAY SO YOUNG BUT THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE SOON BEFORE WE HAVE BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING IN TWO MONTHS NO WHAT IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE TO I MEAN DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. I MEAN MY SPREADSHEET I HIT SAVE BEFORE I CAME UP TO THIS MEETING SO WE'RE WORKING ON CURRENTLY OKAY SO BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE WE'RE IN LINE I THINK IF I LOOK AT IT WE'RE TALKING HERE ACTUALLY SOME MINOR LIGHTER THAN I THINK THEY OUGHT TO BE SO WE'RE STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. OKAY.

WELL THERE'S, A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GONE INTO LOOKING AT FROM WHAT IT COSTS US FROM THE STORM OUR UTILITY STAFF TIME AND ALSO DOING WHAT THEY DID AND LOOKING AT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES. THOSE ARE THE TWO ANGLES WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THE STARS ARE ALL ALIGNING UNDER SOMETHING IN THE SAME RANGE YOU KNOW WELL I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE ASKED WHEN ARE YOU WHEN WOULD YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS ENACTED JULY ONE. SO WE HAVE SOME TIME.

THERE'S TIME YES. SO I THINK VAN WANTS TO STUDY IT TO GIVE US WHERE TO STUDY IT OR WORK FOR IT. ROYAL IS YEAH AND WE'RE THE TOWN HILTON HEAD IS GOING IN THE CITY OF BEAUFORT YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT THAT INFORMATION WILL HELP US YOU KNOW, MAKE DECISIONS I DID HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION IN NOT CHARGING ANYTHING FOR INSPECTION WE DECIDED TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME. YES.

SINCE AN INSPECTION IS IN MY CALCULATIONS IT'S GOING TO BE ESPECIALLY THE HOUSING OF ROAD IS GOING TO BE TWO THIRDS TO THREE QUARTERS OF THE TOTAL EFFORT FROM A REGULATORY STANDPOINT. SO YOU MEAN PHYSICALLY GOING OUT AND INSPECTING THE PROPERTY DURING CONSTRUCTION YOU MUST PERMIT COMPLIANCE. WILL YOU GO BACK TO THE TOWN SO HOW MANY SO THEY'RE CHARGING $150 FOR INSPECTION OF A RESIDENTIAL AND WE DO AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL OR SUBDIVISION THE LAST BULLOCKS OH OKAY IT'S THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. OH OKAY I MEAN $25 AN INSPECTION AND WE PROBABLY DO JUST OVER 8000 INSPECTIONS A YEAR. YOU KNOW I MEAN IT WOULD HE DECIDES WHAT THEY INSPECT THEY JUST WANT INSPECTED AND THAT WAS KIND OF MY JOURNEY THERE IS A SCHEDULE THAT BUT I FELT THAT THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCRETIONARY ON OUR END AND SO THE JUST THE VISUALIZATION ON THAT THAT'S PRETTY WELL I KNOW PRE-CONSTRUCTION THE COUNTY LOOKS AT SO FENCES THEY APPROVE IT SO FENCE WAS INSTALLED INSTALLED PROPERLY THAT'S THAT WOULD BE WE HAVE A WAS A PRE-CLEAR IN OTHER WORDS THEY CAN'T START WORK UNTIL THAT RIGHT BUT THAT WE WERE WE WERE ENVISIONING INCLUDING IN THE IN THE PERMIT FEE BECAUSE THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THE THING THAT CONCERNS US WITH RESIDENTIAL IS THESE MANSIONS THEY'RE BUILDING ON YOU'LL KNOW CAN CAN TAKE A YEAR TO 18 MONTHS TO CONSTRUCT AND YOU KNOW THE PERMIT OUR PERMIT OBLIGATION IS ONE A MONTH WE INSPECT WEEKLY RIGHT NOW BUT IF WE AS INTERIM RESIDENTIAL IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT A NEW BUILDING AND NEW

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STAFF AND CONTRACTS ETC. SO I'M TRYING TO SO WE WERE THINKING IN ENVISIONING MONTHLY WHETHER WE EXPECT MORE OF OR NOT THAT'S JUST US OUR PERFORMING APARTMENT OBLIGATION BUT TO LEAVE AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE FOR 18 MONTHS I KNOW THEY'VE GOT FINANCIAL AND THE MEANS WELL THEY ALSO HAVE THAT CARROT I MEAN THEY WANT TO GET DONE RIGHT BUT STILL IF YOU IF THEY JUST SITTING THERE WE HAVE TO GO BACK OUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR FOR US TO HAVE TO GO OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR A PROJECT THAT MAY DRAG ON FOR YEARS.

THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD ALSO STAFF TIME AND WE WANT TO JUST WAIT AND GET MORE INFORMATION HAVE IT IN OUR MONTHLY PACKET UPDATES TO COME OUT TO THE MEMBERS.

WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT THIS WOULD BE IN THE BUCKET. I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND GET INVOLVED NOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT COVERS THE REVIEW FEES NOW WE HAVE SOME EDITS TO THIS LOCO AS KATIE MENTIONED WE MET AND BROUGHT THE TECHNICAL SUBCOMMITTEE BACK TOGETHER IN AUGUST IN THE SPIRIT OF SLOGAN BEING A LIVING DOCUMENT AND ALSO SOMEHOW IT HAD BEEN EIGHT MONTHS THAT CAME TO CAME NOT INTO BEING BUT INTO USE AND SO WE DISCUSSED THE LOGO BUT ALSO MY COUNTERPART AT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON LYDIA AND I HAD A LIST OF THINGS THAT MAYBE AREN'T GOING SO WELL OR COULD USE SOME CLARIFICATION SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT WITH THE TECHNICAL SUBCOMMITTEE AND DEVISED A LIST OF EDITS THAT YOU SEE HERE WE SENT THIS TO THE DESIGN COMMUNITY WHO HAD SOME GREAT FEEDBACK AND WE FLESHED OUT SOME KINKS THERE REMOVED IT, REMOVED A FEW THINGS AND CLARIFIED SOME THINGS FURTHER. SO I'M GOING TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH THIS SUMMARY POINT BY POINT TEMPLATE DIGEST IT THE FIRST POINT TO PROVIDE AS BUILDS IS JUST A CLARIFICATION OF NOMENCLATURE THAT BETTER FITS THE SYSTEM. WE'LL SEE THAT THE OF BLUFFTON IS HERE IN THIS BUT AS WE INCORPORATE IT INTO THE MANUAL WE WILL CERTAINLY CHANGE THAT TO REFLECT COUNTY THE SECOND CHANGE ON THE LIST IS A REWORDING OF REQUIREMENTS FOR FINAL INSPECTION AGAIN TO REFLECT THE PROCESS AS ACTUALLY EXIST MOVING TO THE NEXT PAGE IS IT OF PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE INSPECTION GIVING A LITTLE MORE DEFINITION THERE WE'VE ADDED A STATEMENT ON THE CHECKLIST THAT MAKES SUBMITTERS ACKNOWLEDGE INCOMPLETE SUBMITTALS MAY BE RETURNED WITHOUT A FULL REVIEW AND ALSO THAT SOME APPLICATION OF MORE MATERIAL IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS MAY RESULT IN MORE. WE'VE ADDED SOME THINGS TO THE COMPLIANCE CALCULATOR NO WE'VE ADDED TO THE DESIGN CHECKLIST THAT COMPLAINTS CALCULATOR SHEETS AND THE WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENTS THEREIN NEED TO BE SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION TO SUPPORT THAT WORK TO THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHECKLIST YOU'LL.

SEE A LOT OF TEXT HERE UNDER THE 10% RULE THIS REALLY JUST GIVES A STARTING POINT FOR DEVELOPERS WE START WITH THAT TEN MINUTE RULE THAT'S BEEN PROBABLY THE BIGGEST AMBIGUITY IN THE MANUAL THUS FAR AND A LOT OF SUBMITTALS HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH OVER THAT SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL GIVE THE STRUCTURE AND STARTING PLACE AS PROFESSIONALS STRIVE TO MEET THIS REQUIREMENT ON DOWN WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO INFILTRATION RATES.

A LOT OF THAT WAS CLARIFICATION THAT WE WILL NEED YOUR TECHNICAL REPORT FROM A SOCIAL SCIENTIST OR TO SUPPORT THAT INFILTRATION RATES THAT ARE MODELED IN AUTOMOBILE MODEL FOR A DEVELOPMENT. WE ALSO GAVE SOME GUIDELINES FOR BUYER RETENTION TO SUPPORT ITS FUNCTION THAT'S BEEN GO TO LOW IMPACT OF THIS MANUAL SO WE GAVE SOME MORE CLARIFICATION THERE ON WHAT'S EXPECTED TO KEEP IT FUNCTIONING AS INTENDED.

ANOTHER BIG EDIT TO THIS WAS STRIKING IRRIGATION PONDS FROM A BBMP THAT CAN BE USED TO CREATE THE RETENTION OF THE PEOPLE ARE CERTAINLY FREE TO IRRIGATE FROM THEIR PONDS BUT THIS CAN'T BE THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THIS TEXT IS. AND THEN THE LAST WAS SOME ADDITIONS TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICAL PROCESS THESE ADDITIONS TO WHAT SHOULD BE

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PROVIDED AN SUBMITTAL WILL GIVE MORE COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION THE SITE THAT WILL AID IN ITS REVIEW AS THESE REVIEWS OFTEN TAKE PLACE BEFORE WE HAVE FINAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS THE SITE SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEED TO VOTE ON ALL BUT BEFORE THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU EDIT THIS SO LOCAL VENUE OF THIS IS JUST YOU KNOW DIFFERENT ADOPTED IT YOU'RE JUST DOING YOUR VERSION YES THAT'S CORRECT OKAY. IT'S INTRIGUING TO NOTE THAT YOU YOU POINTED OUT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED THE WET PONDS TO GET DETENTION RETENTION CREDIT AND YOU'RE YOUR AREA THAT DISCUSSES THAT PARTICULAR BBMP THAT ME FOR ATTENTION WHICH IS GOOD THAT THAT'S SUPPORTED WITH MORE NARRATIVE SO WE WILL BE ADOPTING THAT LITTLE PIECE THANK YOU AGAIN GO AHEAD HOW MUCH FEEDBACK YOU'LL GET FROM THE PRESS ON THE ON THIS THREE COMMENTS TOTAL. YES DESPITE BOTH JURISDICTIONS WHO CURRENTLY ADOPTED NUMEROUS TIMES TO GET TO MULTIPLE FOR I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THE LOCAL FIRMS I THINK THERE'S A LIST OF WHAT OVER OKAY. YES EVER YEAH I GOT YOU AND YOU KNOW TWO OF THE THREE COMMENTS WERE SOME WERE FROM THE SAME FIRM BUT THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED WAS REALLY GOOD AND INCORPORATED. I WAS GRATEFUL FOR THAT THAT MADE ME WISH THAT WE'D GOTTEN MORE THAT WE GOT WHAT WE DID. I HAVE ONE QUESTION EVERY TIME AND AGAIN IT LOOKS LIKE SINCE THIS WAS PROMULGATED 18 MONTHS HAS GONE BY SO YOU'RE MAKING THESE CHANGES DID DID PORT ROYAL AND ALL THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WEIGH IN? DID YOU HAVE A MEETING TO DISCUSS ALL THIS OR ARE WE DOING IT AD HOC AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND THEN REVISIT THESE CHANGES. I'M TRYING TO AN IDEA HOW THIS ALL WORKS TOGETHER WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ADOPTING IF WE CHANGE THIS SO LOGO DOES EVERYBODY HAVE TO JUST SAY OKAY YOU CHANGED IT SO WE'RE NOW STUCK WITH YOUR CHANGES OR DO YOU GO OUT AND GET THEIR COMMENTS? HOW DOES THAT WORK? THAT IS HOW WE TO INVITE THE TECHNICAL SUBCOMMITTEE BACK TO THE TABLE IN AUGUST WHICH IS WHERE THIS STARTED. THINGS WENT FROM JUST NOTES ON IN LYDIA'S FOLIOS OUT CHANGES THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE SO WE INVITED THE TECHNICAL SUBCOMMITTEE ORIGINAL MEMBERS JURISDICTIONS. WE HAD A LARGE THERE AND THEY ALL WEIGHED IN, PROVIDED GREAT FEEDBACK AND SOME CHANGES AND FURTHER DEVELOPED THE ONES THAT YOU SEE TODAY.

SO YOU BELIEVE IF IF YOU MAKE THESE CHANGES EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE FALLING IN LINE WITH THOSE CHANGES. SO HERE WE UP YOU'RE YOU'RE CLOSE.

YES. NOW WITH OR WITHOUT THE CHANGES RIGHT.

WE HAD OUR ENGINEER REVIEW THE MANUAL AND YOU PROVIDE US WITH SOME COMMENTARY WHICH WE SUPPLY DA COUNSEL AND CALL BUT I'M NOT ANTICIPATING ANY ISSUES AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE ADOPTED WE ADOPTED BY REFERENCE SO IT WILL BE INCORPORATED IN OUR SITE REVIEW PROCESS.

THE DEVELOPERS WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND COMPLY WITH IT. WE'RE THE SAME OUR ENGINEERING FIRM LOOKED AT AS WELL AND MCCORMICK TAYLOR ACTUALLY HELPED DESIGN THIS LOCAL MANUAL THAT THE CITY RETAINED SO WHEN THESE COME OUT THEY'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT, SEE IF THEY FIT WITHIN THE CITY'S REGULATIONS AND THEN WE WOULD ADOPT IT AS WELL.

AT THIS TIME WE'RE NOT CONTEMPLATING IT BUT WE MIGHT THAT AND THERE'S CERTAINLY THE FLEXIBILITY WITH MANUAL IF SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK FOR A PARTICULAR JURISDICTION THAT CAN CHANGED. I KNOW A LOT OF THE STUFF IS SPECIFIC TO THE CITY AND OTHER THINGS ARE SPECIFIC TO MORE RURAL AREAS WHICH I THINK IS PART OF THE BEAUTY OF THE MAIN BUT IT IS NOT JUST ONE SOURCE THAT'S ALL THAT CAN BE TAILORED TO THE JURISDICTION.

JUST YOU JUST CURIOUS. SOUNDS GOOD. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDATION A VOTE OR IS THIS WILL HAVE TO GO FROM HERE TO THE COUNCIL.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADOPT THESE CHANGES? I AS LISTED AS LISTED THE OTHER

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WAY OR A SECOND DISCUSSION IT WAS ANY DISCUSSION AND OKAY WE'LL MOVE THE VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THE CHANGES SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SEEING I I YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU YOU. WE'RE BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT OR PRESENTATION WELCOME .

I GOT A VISUAL AND I'M TRYING TO SEE IF YOU ALL OF YOU YOU A VERY SOFT VOICE IF YOU COULD SO WE COULD HEAR YOU IN THE MICROPHONE PLEASE SELL OUT TO ME.

WELL, NOT NOT TO HEAR WE'RE OLD AND HEARING IMPAIRED. YEAH, SERIOUSLY SOME US THE MANAGERS SAY WHAT YOU IN JUST A MINUTE I'LL INTRODUCE MYSELF. MY NAME IS VERY ACCURATE.

I LIVE ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND TWO EVERS ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN BY THE RIVER.

I HAVE 45 YEARS PLUS EXPERIENCE AS A PROFESSIONAL. MY BACKGROUND IS IN PUBLICATIONS GRAPHIC DESIGN, WEB DESIGN, PROFESSIONAL I FOUNDED AND PUBLISHED AND RAN A COMMUNITY NEWSPAPER FOR SEVERAL YEARS ALSO WORKED FOR THE CITY OF NEWPORT NEWS , VIRGINIA IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR MANY YEARS SUPPORTING THEIR MAPPING DESIGNING COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE PUBLIC MOSTLY LICENSED AS A DRUM PILOT AMATEUR INTEREST AS A SOUND OF GEOLOGY HYDROLOGY MATH STUDYING AND I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRAVELING AROUND THE 4050 ACRES AROUND MYSELF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESOLVE SOME REAL ISSUES THAT SEEM REALLY SMALL COMPARED TODAY BUT NOT ADDRESSED REALLY FIRST OF YOUR REPORT WAS EXCELLENT.

IT WAS DEPRESSING BUT I HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT ASPECT THAT COULD PARTIALLY RESOLVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE FACING ON EVEREST AND THERE ARE SEVERAL PARTS LET'S SPEAK AS QUICKLY AS I CAN AND BE CONCISE AND SUCCINCT. OKAY.

FIRST PICTURE I WANTED TO PUT ON THERE WAS A LOT OF ROAD. NUMBER ONE REASON I'M HERE IS TO ASK WE CAN GET EVEREST TO TAKE IT AS AN EASEMENT TO RESOLVE ISSUES THAT ARE PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM BEING TO ACCESS NOT ONLY THE COUPLE OF FEW HOMES THAT ARE BACK BUT THERE'S ALSO HISTORIC CEMETERY ACCESS THIS EASEMENT THAT ACTUALLY CONTAINS OF HEADSTONES FOR CIVIL WAR USE OTHER WHICH IS THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE HEADSTONE AND THERE'S ALSO ONE CREW MEMBER BURIED THERE AND THE DITCHES ARE THE PROBLEM I'M NOT SURE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF SAINT HELENA PRIVATE FLYNN THAT PEOPLE LIVE ALONG BUT IT'S PROBABLY PART YOU KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE ROADS IN SAINT HELENA ARE PRIVATE ROOMS AS OPPOSED TO THE PARTS OF PUBLIC OR NO AND NOT AS EASY AS EVEREST ROAD IS NOT RIGHT. WELL, THE SEA WATER WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO MUCH ABOUT RAINWATER. WE CAN'T DO A LOT OF OUR BUT WE'RE LETTING THE WATER BACK OUT TO BE GREATLY MITIGATED IF THE DITCHES ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTIES NOW AT ONE TIME I LEARNED FROM YOUR BLOGGER AND COMMUNITY MEETING AND SHE WAS ALSO JULIAN'S AND ALSO MET WITH THEM AND GIVE ME A LOT OF INFORMATION AT TIME YOU FOR COUNTY DID MAINTAIN ALL THE PRIVATE DITCHES IN THE CAMP AND REPORTING TO MR. POINT THEY CLEANED THE DITCH OF A PRIVATE LANDOWNER HE DIDN'T WANT IT DONE AND SHE SUED THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY LOST THE RIGHT SO THROUGH THE BABY OUT OF THAT THAT PRIVATE AND MORE NOW THESE IMAGES AND SHORT STORIES AND THIS IS BEYOND A NORMAL LANDOWNER LIKE MYSELF CAN GET

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OUT THERE WITH A SHOVEL IN MY BARE IS NOT HIS OWN LITTLE MONEY IS THESE CLEANED UP DITCHES CLOSEST TO MY PROPERTY JUST SO WE STOP HAVING THAT RIGHT THERE THAT'S NOT FROM THE RIVER THIS IS MY FRONT YARD FROM THE RUNOFF BECAUSE OF DITCHES ARE NOT MAINTAINED AND TREES ARE SUDDENLY GROWING AND THEN THEY'RE FILLED WITH AND WHEN THEY WERE CREATED DECADES AND DECADES AND DECADES AGO TO MAKE ARABLE LAND FOR AGRICULTURE 100 YEARS AGO MAYBE AND THEN EVENTUALLY FOR DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU THERE'S OUR ROAD RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THE ROAD DOWN TO MY HOUSE AND THAT'S THE ROAD TO THE CEMETERY AS. WELL, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS EITHER WHEN THOSE ISSUES WERE FIRST CREATED THEY HAD THEIR BUT AS PEOPLE HAVE COME ALONG IN THE DECADES LATER, NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO MAINTAIN DITCHES OF THAT SIZE AND THAT LENGTH UNLESS YOU GO ON AN EXCAVATOR AND HAVE A BACK OF BUSH HOG AND ALL THAT EQUIPMENT IS NOT FOR US TO MAINTAIN. I FEEL AS IF THE SAME WAY THAT POWER COMPANIES HAVE TO COME THROUGH RIGHTS OF WAY AND I HAD PROBABLY 30 FEET BY 75 FEET IN MY FRONT YARD BEFORE US THIS YEAR WHEN THE POWER COMPANY CAME THROUGH AND THAT'S OKAY THERE IN HARLAN I FEEL LIKE THE DITCHES ARE SO NECESSARY THE SAME TO STAY ALIVE AND DRY THAT THEY SHOULD BE ALL TAKEN IN THE RIGHT WAY BY COUNTY AND MAINTAINED JUST LIKE POWER LINE IF YOU DON'T KEEP THESE UP AND DO SOMETHING SOON YOU KNOW WE'LL ALL BE ON. THERE'S A WOMAN WHO OWNS A LITTLE PLANT BUSINESS BEHIND THE COUNTRY STORE ON 21 NEAR BOONDOCKS NEAR SEASIDE ROAD.

YOU HAD HER HOME AND NEPHEW SHE'S ALSO THE HIGHWAY WATER CAME UP TO HER WINDOWSILLS AND I SAID HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? THE WATER CAME ALL THE WAY UP HERE THIS HIGH WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HIGHWAY, SHE SAID BECAUSE THE DITCHES FILLED UP WITH WATER AND IT COULD NOT FLOW BACK OUT. GOT SO MANY EASEMENTS RUNNING BACK AND FORTH PARALLEL TO YOUR COUNTY MAINTAINING DITCHES THAT HAVE NO CULVERTS TO ALLOW THE WATER FROM THESE GIANT EXISTING DITCHES THAT RUN THIS WAY TO GET TO YOUR OUTFALL COURSE I DON'T KNOW WHICH LOOKS SOMEBODY'S CLEAN. IT LOOKS NICE. DOES THE $54,000 OR SOMETHING TO DO THAT WITH A WATER CAN'T GET TO IT. IT'S EMPTY BECAUSE IT ALL BACKS UP ALONG EVERY ROAD AND ANOTHER EASEMENT WHICH WILL PUT IN AND NOT BY A COUNTY OVERSIGHT NOT TO PUT IN ACCESS FOR THE DITCHES TO GET THROUGH DOWN TO THE OTHER SIDE SO ALL THE WATER FLOWS DOWN. THIS IS THE ONLY THAT GETS THE IDEA TO CHAIRMAN SO HE CAN DO SO ANYWAY. I FEEL LIKE AS PART THE OTHER HOPELESS THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE WHICH DID SEEM BE VERY MUCH THIS IS A DIAGRAM OF THE PROBLEM RIGHT HERE BLUE ARE DITCHES BIG DITCHES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOREVER THAT ARE DRAINING ALL THIS LAND.

THE YELLOW LINE IS EVER SO THERE'S NO HOPE THAT THE WATER THROUGH THE OTHER SIDE AT ALL THAT ONE AND THEN ANOTHER EVEN IF WE WERE WILL BE WELL BUILT LITTLE ROADWAYS TO THEIR PLACES ARE SUPPOSED BE EASIER AND NOW THE FOCUS IS ALL THAT WATER GOES RIGHT DOWN THAT YELLOW SQUARE RIGHT THERE ABOUT 48 RIGHT INTO MY FRONT YARD AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A RIVER. IT'S A LOT EVERY TIME IT RAINS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A HURRICANE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NOR'EASTER.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IT CAN'T TAKE TWO OR THREE INCHES OF RAIN AND THAT'S WHAT MY YARD LOOKS LIKE AND THAT'S WHAT EVERY ROAD LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING OR OVERSEEING YOU THAT EVEN WHEN PEOPLE DO PUT EASEMENTS I THEY HAVEONS AND KNOW WHAT YOU MAINTAIN AND DITCHES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO CASH CLEAN QUALITY HABITATS ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE ANIMALS OF THE LOWCOUNTRY WETLANDS LIKE THIS ARE GREAT PLACES FOR BABY ALLIGATORS THESE LITTLE GARDENS THEY NEED PROPER HABITAT SO THAT THEY CAN FIND THEIR FOOD, STAY PROTECTED AND REPRODUCE AND WETLANDS ARE ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR FISH, BIRDS, AMPHIBIANS AND OTHER. JOIN US FOR COASTAL KINGDOM A FIELD TRIP THROUGH THE LOHEWCOUNTE TO MEET SOME OF THE ANIMALS THAT LIVE HERE OBVIOUSLY SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE ON I PERSONALLY I MEAN I MEAN LOOKS LIKE SIX AT THE TOP OF THE ROAD AND THEY'RE

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NOT REALLY ON TO GET TO THEM BUT THEY CAN GET TO THEIR HOUSES MOST OF I MEAN THERE'S NOT THAT MANY BUT THE MAIN THING IS THE CEMETERY CANNOT BE ACCESSED AT ALL BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD EXCEPT FOR WHEN IT'S REALLY DRY TIMES OF YEAR IT'S THERE AND THERE'S NOTHING I KNOW MY MAN MY FIRST NAME THAT'S NOT A BAD BUT EVERY TIME I REQUEST HE'LL COME DOWN THERE BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT THOSE PICTURES LIKE WHATEVER STRATEGIES ALGAE COVERING THE DITCHES THE HORSE IS SITTING THERE SO ALL THE MOSQUITOES ARE STILL VERY HAPPY THEY DON'T PAY STORMWATER TAXES AND I SEEM TO PAY SOME KIND OF STORMWATER TAX MY TAX BILL EVERY YEAR NOW NOTHING IS DONE TO HELP US AND SAY I CAN THINK OF THAT IS ACTUALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE I DON'T THIS LOOKS GREAT BUT WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY? MOST OF THE PROPERTY THAT IT'S DRAINING ON THE YEARS ALL RIGHT ON THE RIGHT IS 38 AND BY CATHERINE YOUNG SHE IS COMMANDER CATHERINE SHE'S RETIRED ADMINISTRATOR OF THE NAVAL HOSPITAL HERE SHE'S ALSO UNKNOWN AND SHE'S ALSO A NURSE, AN AMAZING WOMAN. SHE'S NOT HERE THAT IN THE LAND OF THE OTHER SOME WERE CLEARED WITHOUT ANY PERMITS IN THE STORM WATER RETENTION OF THE REPORT THERE'S NOT THE FACILITIES KNOW THERE'S NO STORMWATER REMEDIATION OR YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATED NONE OF THAT WAS DONE. PEOPLE JUST DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN THE COUNTY AND DON'T APPLY FOR PERMITS AND JUST DO WHATEVER AND I SUFFER FOR IT.

YES, THAT'S ANOTHER ANOTHER ISSUE ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR.

YOUR QUESTION FOR ME. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THAT IT WAS COMING UP FOR THE COUNCIL FOR ROADS THAT WERE THESE PRIVATE ROADS BECAUSE I LIVE ON ONE AS WELL AND I HAD TO PUT A 10 MILLION MAINTENANCE UNDER SEVEN SAME THAT IT WAS PUSHED BY SOME PEOPLE ON COUNCIL VOTE ON IT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COULDN'T ACCESS IT.

THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO TAKE IT OVER AND I TALKED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LAST MONTH AND THAT DID NOT PASS RESTAURANT ON MONDAY THIS PAST IT DID NOT PASS BY COUNCIL VOTE AND SO IT WAS JUST THIS LIKE I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A MONTH OR TWO AGO THAT THEY DID PASS WAS SO KIND OF THE HISTORY OF IT IT BOUNCED BACK AND FORTH AND THEN FINALLY THE THIRD READING WAS THIS PAST MONDAY AND AT THAT POINT OF ACTION THEN THE VOTE WAS NO .

YEAH. SO YEAH YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM YEAH I KNOW THAT IF YOU PLEASE PLEASE GET THE MECHANISM IN PLACE FOR CITIZENS OR ENTITIES TO REMAIN PRIVATE ASSETS INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM, ALL THEY GOT TO DO IS GO TO THE WEBSITE AND FOLLOW THE PROCESS SO IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.

FOLKS JUST NEED TO USE AND IT WAS PART OF THE EVALUATION PROCESS FOR HOW THEY HANDLE THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR SO TO SAY BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE DON'T USE PUBLIC FUNDS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS DO NOT STATE LIMITS BUT THANK YOU I WOULD ONLY ONE OTHER QUESTION FROM MY STANDPOINT ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD? MY QUESTION IS IN WOLFERS AND I GUESS THIS WOULD BE SO SORT OF DIRECTED TOWARDS CRYSTAL DID DID YOU LOOK AT THOSE DITCHES IN YOUR PROJECT? SO OUR PROJECT IS NOT FOCUSED ON DITCHES LIKE NO KIND OF A LIMITED TO YOU KNOW THE COUNTIES ABILITY TO MAKE EASEMENTS PROPERTY SO THAT'S NOT YOU KNOW TO LOOK AT THESE DITCHES IT'S NOT OUR PROJECT AND IT'S UNFAIR BECAUSE COUNTY DID AT ONE TIME MAINTAIN THE PRIVATE BEACH AND THEN THEY JUST LEFT US ON OUR OWN. SO NONE OF US CAN PHYSICALLY OR FINANCIALLY WOULD KEEP THEM UP.

YOUR COUNTY'S GOING TO GO DOWNHILL. SO SO WE SAID YOU'VE EARNED THE PROPERTY, THE COUNTY HAS DROPPED THAT OR ONE TIME AGAIN I'M NOT SURE WHEN THEY DID IT.

OKAY, LET ME STOP DOING IT. MR. GLOVER WAS THE ONE WHO MENTIONED IT WHENEVER THAT WAS SO I HADN'T BEEN SINCE YOU'VE BEEN ON THE PROPERTY. OKAY SO THEY HAD THEY HAD THEY'VE NEVER BEEN MAINTAINED SINCE YOU'VE BEEN THERE SINCE YOU BOUGHT THAT.

SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE YES YEAH. BEFORE APPARENTLY SOMETHING THEY WEREN'T ONE TIME AND ONE TIME YEAH YEAH THEY ALL OF OUR HOMES WERE YOU KNOW WE HAD WE CREATE VILLAGES, WE LET PEOPLE LIVE THERE, BUILD THERE AND THEN WE DON'T MAINTAIN THEM THIS WHAT HAPPENS FOR SOUND ROAD BECAUSE OVER THE COURSE OF WHERE YOU ACCESS IS THERE'S A COUPLE OF SOLIDER AND

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CULVERT I THINK IS ABOUT 48 INCHES IT MAY BE BIGGER SOMEBODY MIGHT KNOW BUT EVERY TIME THE WIND BLOWS JUST RIGHT AND THAT WHOLE MARSH AND RIVER FILL UP TO THE TOP OF IT'S LIKE TRYING TO DRAIN A SWIMMING POOL WITH THE DRINKING STRAW. IT IS NOT IT WAS UNDER ENGINEERED IN THE FIRST PLACE. I'M SURE THEY'RE FASHIONABLE FOR DEVELOPERS WHO START FILLING IN MARSH AND SWAMP AND MAKING REAL ESTATE OUT OF IT AND THEY THREW THAT DIRT ROAD ACROSS THERE AND I'M TELLING YOU TIME IF LOOK UP IN MY BACKYARD JUST THE FRONT DOOR I THINK YOU SAW THE BACKYARD AND I HAVE PICTURES THAT WEREN'T THERE WHEN I CAME UP.

THIS IS MY YARD BACK YARD LOOKS LIKE LAWN BUT EVERY THAT BRIDGE IS STOPPED UP THE WORK IS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS PICTURE BUT THAT HAVE BEEN A BRIDGE IN THE FIRST PLACE. LIKE I SAID IT'S UNDER ENGINEER.

YOU EVEN NEED SOME MORE PUBLIC CULVERTS ACROSS THERE WILL MAKE PROPER BRIDGE ACROSS IT FOR YOU AND ALL THIS FEDERAL MONEY TO ALLEVIATE SEA LEVEL. THIS IS ONE THING I HIGHLY RECOMMEND BECAUSE ALL THE PROPERTIES A LOT SOLID NO MATTER WHAT TIMES I CROSS THE CONSTITUENTS ACROSS MARSH THROUGH WHAT I SEE THERE ON THIS OUR ROAD IS JUST DOING IT BACKS UP ON ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES AND IF HIGHER HIGHER EVERY TIME IN 25 YEARS OUT THIS MESS ARE YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU SHOWED IN THAT 125 YEARS WHEN IT HAPPENED 1967 DOWN HERE NOW THAT IT'S ALREADY HERE AND PART OF THE BOND CAN BE FIXED JUST DON'T HAVE THE PROPER DRAINAGE FLOW THROUGH THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO COME IN AND WE REINFORCE OUR GET THROUGH TO THE OTHER SIDE WE'RE IN FOR DEALING WITH NEEDS TO THAT'S ANOTHER FLOODING PROBLEM THAT CAN BE EASILY AND THAT I'M SURE THIS ISN'T THE ONLY CAUSEWAY AROUND SAINT HELENA ISLAND YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE CALLING OUR OWN FOR ENGINEERING FOR AND NOT MAINTAIN OUR DITCHES WHICH DRAIN THE SAND AND KEEP IT LIVABLE AT SEVERAL GENERATIONS DOWN THE AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF YOUR PLAN AND.

IT USED TO BE THAT THE COUNTY USED TO DO A LOT OF WHAT FEDERAL LAW THERE IS SAID YOU CAN'T USE PUBLIC LAND BUT IT WAS USED TO ASSURE UNFAIR THIS WAS ALL RIGHT I'LL JUST VOTED ON THAT MONDAY NIGHT YEAH YEAH THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YEAH AND I REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM PAYING STORMWATER FEES FOR SOMETHING. WE'RE NOT GETTING THIS HOME AND I THOUGHT WE SHOULD PAY FOR SOMETHING TO REBATED MORE THAN EVER SINCE THEY STARTED IMPLEMENTING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ANY BENEFIT FROM IT AND A PERSON POINTED OUT THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY WOULD YOU PAY FOR UP A PERSONAL STRUGGLE OR THROUGH WATER MONEY AND IF THERE'S NOTHING OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT MANAGES THEIR OWN FUNDS JUST LIKE WE DID FLOATING IN, COMING IN I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THAT TO MAKE A REAL COMMENT ON IT. ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU'LL HAVE A LOT MORE TO SAY. THE MOST NAME THING IS OH, I DON'T KNOW. HOW WOULD YOU OTHER THAN WHAT YOU SAID THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT ROAD AND WRITE THE WEBSITE ON THAT ROUTE BUT WOULD SAY ONE THING ABOUT IT ABOUT TEN PEOPLE A HALF MILE IT'S A HALF MILE LONG ROAD BUT WE SPENT $1.6 MILLION A YEAR.

THIS NEW CONTROL THAT'S OUR BUDGET. I MEAN YOU COULD ANNOUNCE TO ALL OF THOSE NAMES BUT I DON'T I CAN DO YOU OUT OF A JOB BUT YOU KNOW IF WE CAN JUST GET THESE DITCHES FREED UP THIS WATER WOULDN'T STAND FOR WEEKS WHAT'S NOT TAKE PICTURES I'M A PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER DOCUMENT EVERYTHING HERE WE'LL SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE DITCHES IN THE STANDARD OR HOW MANY TOWNS UP FOR THAT BACKDROP THIS APPLIES TO YOU.

OH, I WANT YOU. WE LIVED HERE I'VE LIVED HERE ALMOST THREE YEARS.

MY FAMILY'S BEEN HERE SINCE THE LATE 1700S. I YOU DON'T BECAUSE TO VIRGINIA WHERE I'VE LIVED MY WHOLE LIFE LONG CHESAPEAKE BAY IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN ALWAYS SPENT MY LIFE OUT BECAUSE I'M YOU KNOW AND I SAID SOMETHING TO THE TAX PEOPLE ISN'T ENOUGH WHAT PROPERTY SHOULDN'T BE VALUED QUITE SO MUCH MONEY GOES UNDERWATER MOST OF THE TIME SAYS WELCOME TO LIVING IN THE LOWCOUNTRY I'VE ALWAYS LISTEN. I KNOW HOW IT IS AND THIS ISN'T NECESSARY OR NORMAL. BE MY PROPERTY FOR ALL THE TIME LIKE THIS AND OTHER PEOPLE'S AS WELL I'M JUST CAN'T SPEAK FOR MYSELF BUT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE .

WHAT ELSE THAT'S AMAZING IS JUST TO MAKE A SUGGESTION AND ALL OR EVEN THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO MAKE IT SEEMS THAT I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT THIS IS A REAL THING AND I FEEL LIKE YOU

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CAN HELP ALLEVIATE SOME THE FLOODING THAT DOES COME IF WE JUST HAVE A WAY FOR IT TO GET I WISH I HAD A SOLUTION THAT WE WERE IN CHARGE OF . WE WE CAN EMPATHIZE WITH YOU RIGHT WHEN WE DO WE CAN ALSO SYMPATHIZE WITH HOWEVER OUR HANDS ARE TIED OUR BUDGETARY PROCESS OF WHERE WE CAN SPEND MONEY RIGHT MATT NOT SURE WHO ACTUALLY DOES THE OVERSEEING OF AND JUST SAW IN HERE AND IT WAS REPORTED EARLIER ON THEY SPENT $70,000 ON THAT FORCE ONE WAS ON ROAD YET DRAINAGE AGAIN OUR HANDS ARE TIED BASICALLY BY COVENANT AND LAW RIGHT SO WE CAN'T SIT HERE AND FIX YOUR PROBLEM OR WEEK AND NOR CAN WE ALLOCATE ANY FUNDS OR MANPOWER TO YOUR PROBLEM. AGAIN WE CAN EMPATHIZE WITH YOU AND ONLY TELL YOU THAT GET IN ASSOCIATION TOGETHER AND THE HOMEOWNERS THAT STREET I THINK THE GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK MUST LIVE THERE WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, COME TO SOME METHODOLOGY OF TURNING THAT ROAD OVER AS A PUBLIC ROAD. THERE IS A MECHANISM IN PLACE TO DO THAT AND THEN GET, YOU KNOW, SOME ASSISTANCE. BUT RIGHT NOW OUR HANDS ARE TIED IN PRIVATE LAND. RIGHT. AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN TELL YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR COMING FORTH. YOU WILL BE NOTED IN OUR MINUTES MAKE THE BETTER AND BETTER USE IT POSSIBLY IT NEEDS TO BE HERE ONE SPOT AND WE'RE ON THE COUNTY CABLE CHANNEL SO SOMEONE SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE WATCHING YOU RIGHT? LET'S DO IT AND LISTENING AND NOW YOU KNOW IS I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR JUST OUR ROAD BUT I'M NOT OF JUST OUR ROAD. I'M REALLY TRYING TO THINK OF HELP FOR ENTIRE ISLAND. THE BIG PICTURE WHETHER OR NOT FEDERAL MONEY TO PAY FOR PRIVATE LAND WE'VE SUPPOSEDLY GETTING AN LOT OF FEDERAL MONEY TO HELP PEOPLE ALONG BECAUSE THAT HAS ISSUES YOU KNOW, WHY CAN'T THEY HELP US RAISE OUR BACKYARDS OR PUT SEAWALLS AND BULKHEADS IN TO HELP YOU KNOW MORE THE FLOODING YOU KNOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND WE PAY TAXES THE STORE TAXES AND WE DON'T DO ANY BENEFIT FROM EVEN IF WE ARE PRIVATE WHY SHOULD I PAY FOR YOU GUYS? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.

I'M SORRY. IT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

BUT TO HEAR WHAT I HAVE IS THAT EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY THAT THESE ARE ASSESSED EVERY PROPERTY I KNOW REGARDLESS AND THOSE FEES GO TO MAINTAINING HOUSING INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WHILE YOU MAY NOT LIVE ON THE COUNTY ROAD YOU DO USE COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE AT SOME POINT DURING YOUR TRAVELS AND COMING HERE SO THAT FUNDS THOSE AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I DO ALL OF OUR LIVE WORK AND PLAY PRETTY MUCH I'LL SAY HELLO AND LADIES I'LL THAT'S IT I DON'T KNOW ANYWHERE ELSE THAT'S THIS FORTUNATELY TO US OVER THERE I UNDERSTAND THAT.

ALL RIGHT, I'M TAKING ENOUGH YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR HOPEFULLY THIS WILL HELP IN THE FUTURE. SOMEBODY IS THINKING ABOUT OTHER WAYS CAN HELP.

THANK YOU. HAVE A NICE AFTERNOON. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT BEING THE MORE HOPEFUL ANY OTHER COMMENT AT THIS STAGE ON BACK

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SIDE OF YOUR SHEET IS OUR NEXT AGENDA PROPOSED AGENDA TWO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AGENDA THE NEXT MEETING I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A MOTION TO APPROVE TO HAVE A SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

SO I MOTION PASSES AGAIN I WOULD THINK IS IGNORE OR CONCERN AND PRESENTATION WANT TO THANK WILBUR AND I DON'T TO FIRST NAME AND I APOLOGIZE FOR HER TYPE OF REPORT AND IT HELPS US ON THE STORMWATER UTILITY BOARD TO BE EDUCATED ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY AGAIN I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF AND THE STORMWATER UTILITY BOARD AND OUR

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EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS FROM THE VARIOUS COUNTIES AND CITIES AND TOWNS THAT ARE HERE AGAIN WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR MEETING ADJOURNE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.