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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:08]

EVERYONE I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING OF MONDAY DECEMBER 12TH TO ORDER WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM PRESIDENT IN PERSON COUNCILMAN JEFF LLEWELLYN PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON COUNCIL MEMBER MAGELLAN COUNCIL MEMBER LAWSON RUNNING LATE COUNCIL MEMBER HOWARD COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER HERBISON COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER VICE-CHAIR SUMMERVILLE CHAIRMAN PRESIDENT AND PRESIDENT WE HAVE A QUORUM THANK YOU WOULD YOU ALL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I'D LIKE YOU WHY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL IF YOU WILL PLEASE STANDING MR. MCCONNELL IF YOU DO THE INVOCATION YOUR WISE AND LOVING GOD THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY ABUNDANT BLESSINGS. WE THANK FOR THE LIFE ITSELF AND FOR THE MEASURE OF HEALTH GIVING US WILL FILL OUR DUTIES. WE THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY INVOLVED IN USEFUL WORK AND THE HONOR OF BEARING RESPONSIBILITIES IF WE AS A BODY PROMOTE PEACE, ORDER AND JUSTICE AND INTEGRATION GRANT THIS ASSEMBLED BODY WISDOM, GOOD GOVERNANCE, MEDICAL AFFLICTING INTERESTS AND ISSUES OF OUR TIMES REPRESENTS, THE FUTURE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS OF A KEEN THIRST FOR JUSTICE TO UNDERSTAND AND CLEARLY SEE WHAT IS GOOD FITTING AND APPROPRIATE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY EVEN WHEN THERE IS HONEST DISAGREEMENT AND TO HAVE PERSONAL PEACE IN OUR LIVES ENJOY IN OUR TASKS.

FINALLY, PLEASE HELP US TO ENSURE DELIBERATIONS HERE TONIGHT BENEFIT THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK WORKS IN THE COMMUNITY IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY YOU MET MY MAN.

THANK YOU. COMPLETE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN POSTED

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE. THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT WHEN A MEMBER OF COUNCIL PLEASE OFFER A MOTION EVERY SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA MOVED MR. CHAIRMAN MR. FOLLOWING MADE THE MOTION MR. RODMAN MADE THE SECOND DULY MOTION AND SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGENDA. YES, MA'AM. NUMBER TEN IS OF PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION TO STOP CONSTANT USE BETWEEN COUNTY AND ROOM TO BUILD ADDITIONAL LIBRARY, ADDITIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION FIELDS AND A SOLID WASTE MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY IN SOUTHERN UTAH COUNTY RURAL LANDS PROGRAM BOARD MET ON THURSDAY AND THEY ARE PLANNING A FIELD TRIP THIS COMING WEEK 19 THROUGH THE 20TH AND 21ST AND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE DELAY DECIDED UNTIL THEY MAKE THEIR WORK. OKAY SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM I WILL CALL ON YOU TO AMEND THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. WE DON'T NEED TO DO IT NOW AMENDING THE AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU WANT TO REMOVE WAS YOU CAN JUST WAIT TIL.

IT COMES UP TO POSTPONE IT TO YOU WHICH IT DOESN'T. OKAY THEN WE WILL IT UP THERE DETERMINE EXACTLY WHEN WE'RE GOING TAKE IT UP AGAIN. MR. RUDD I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WOULD WE GO STILL GO WITH A PUBLIC HEARING OR WOULD WE I WOULD IMAGINE WE WOULD POSTPONE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL. OKAY. ANY OTHERS SEEING NONE.

THE AGENDA WILL BE APPROVED AS STATED AND I SEE I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, SIR. SINCE WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE WHO UNDOUBTEDLY WILL SPEAK TO NUMBER TEN. CAN THEY DO THAT? OH, ABSOLUTELY YES.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - November 14, 2022]

YES. AGAIN, AGENDA WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTIONS. NEXT WITH THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF NOVEMBER OF THE 14TH MOTION AND SECOND PLEASE SO MOVE MR. CHAIR. MR. MAKES THE MOTION JUST LIKE

[6. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT]

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MR. GLOVER MAKES THE SECOND MOTION AND SECONDED DISCUSSION SAYING NONE THE MINUTES WILL BE WITHOUT OBJECTING AND I SEE NO OBJECTIONS. WE'RE AT OUR ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT, MR. GREENWOOD LOOKING OVER THERE. BUT YOU WERE SITTING THERE WAITING PATIENTLY. GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL GERMANY AND CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY ARE ON US TONIGHT AND WATCHING THIS ON LINE EITHER THE COUNTY CHANNEL OR BY YOUTUBE. I WISH EVERYONE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A VERY HAPPY AND SAFE NEW YEAR MUST BE OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT FOR BEFORE THAT TIME IS UPON US HAVE THREE THINGS ARE REAL QUICKLY THE NIGHT FOR YOU ALL. THE FIRST THING IS THAT WE'RE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE LAST WEEK THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS WANTED 3.3 MILLION COUNTY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 3.6 MILES TEN FOOT PATHWAY BETWEEN THE MARINE CORPS AIR STATION AND AND THE U.S. MARINE CORPS MORE OF A MILITARY HOUSING AREA.

THIS IS ONE OF . I JUST INTERRUPT FOR 1/2 GERALDO SAYS TRYING TO GET EASIER. THANK YOU I'M IN I'M IN IT'S. LISTEN THIS PROJECT IS ONE OF THE 24 PATHWAYS FROM OUR 2018 SALES TAX PROGRAM AND THE GRANT COVERS 100% OF THE COST OF THE PROJECT. THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS PATHWAY ALONG SD 116 WILL PROVIDE A SAFE PASSAGE FOR BICYCLISTS, RUNNERS AND PEDESTRIANS BETWEEN MORRO BAY AND THE AIR WITH SOME BIG WIN. I CONGRATULATE OUR ENGINEERING FOLKS A.K.A JARED FREILICH FOR HARD WORK HE PUT IN TO GET THAT OPERATION IN AND GET THE AWARD. ALSO PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THIS YEAR THAT WE HAVE A DRAFT EFFORT IN OUR POSSESSION THAT WE'LL BE SUBMITTED HOPEFULLY BY DECEMBER 31ST WHICH IS THE DEADLINE. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE FISCAL YEAR WHEN YOU 12 THAT WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH THAT STATE MANDATED DEADLINE SO APPRECIATE THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR HARD WORK GETTING UP ON TOP GETTING ON THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT COUNTY WORK MATERIALS OR FOR DILIGENCE AND MAKING SURE I COMPLETED IN A TIMELY MANNER AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER HIRSHHORN AND COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON FOR STANDING WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND WITH ME TO PROVIDE THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO BUILD THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE COULD THAT TASK. JOB WELL DONE. YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THAT AREA HAS PROVED BENEFICIAL AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT GRATEFUL TO YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THIS NEXT PART IS GONNA BE A LITTLE EMOTIONAL FOR ME AND. THAT WILL BE MY LAST TIME TO DO THIS.

I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT FORMALLY AT SOME POINT IN THE AGENDA BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MR. RAHMAN MR. SUMMERVILLE, YOU ALL YOUR SUPPORT OF ME ON SOMETHING THAT I'M GRATEFUL FOR. I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE YOUR SUPPORT. YOU GUYS HAVE OFFERED ME ACCOUNTABILITY BOTH IN MY ROLE AS A DIRECTOR AND IN MY ROLE NOW AS NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF CHASTISING ME BUT WITH THE PURPOSE OF MAKING ME A BETTER PERSON AND EMPLOYEE HERE AT THE COUNTY AND I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. SO COUNCILMEMBER SOMERVILLE, YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE ME INTO YOUR ROLES HERE AT THE COUNTY FIRST AND 2018 WHEN I CAME HERE TO BE A DIRECTOR AND IN PROMOTING ME TO THE COUNTY STRADER EACH TIME IT MADE MY LIFE BETTER NOT APPRECIATE THAT I MISSED ALL OF YOU YOU. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AND I REALLY I COULDN'T WAIT FOR YOU ALL AFTER YOU'RE OUT OF OFFICE REACHABLE FOR YOU TO

[7. CITIZEN COMMENTS - (ANYONE who wishes to speak during the Citizen Comment portion of the meeting will limit their comments to no longer than three (3) minutes ( a total of 15 minutes ) and will address Council in a respectful manner appropriate to the decorum of the meeting, refraining from the use of profane, abusive, or obscene language)]

REACH OUT TO ME I WILL ALWAYS TREAT YOU ALL AS MEMBERS OF YOU FOR TELLING YOU THAT CONCLUSION HONORABLE THANK YOU. WE'RE AT COMMONS I'M SURE WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WISH TO MAKE COMMENTS. I SEE. MR. BARNWELL CHOMPING AT THE BIT. PLEASE COME FORWARD, MR. BARNWELL.

WE ALWAYS LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU THE CHAIRMAN AS WELL ALL MEMBERS WOULD THANKING TO STAFF AS WELL AS GENERAL PUBLIC. MY NAME IS FOR THE RECORD THOMAS CURTIS MONROE JR.

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I'M A VERY SHORT TERM PERSON HERE IN THE COUNTY, VERY SMALL TAXPAYER.

I'VE ONLY BEEN UNACCOUNTED FOR 87 YEARS SO I'M VERY SO AND IMPORTANT.

HOPEFULLY 190. IT'S A VERY, VERY SPECIFIC I WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH WORK MOSTLY. THANKS TO ALL COUNCILPERSON BUT ESPECIALLY TO ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE RETIRING. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICES TO ALL THE RESIDENTS OF BEAUFORT COUNTIES ALL OF THE YEARS THAT YOU'VE HURT AND SOME OF YOU I HAVE THE BALDWIN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS EVEN WHEN I WAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHEN YOU SHOULD ASK COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH SERVICES SOME OF YOU HAVE AROUND AND THEN A FEW YEARS BACK AND I WANT TO PERSONALLY EXPRESS MY SINCERE THANKS TO ALL OF YOU AND WISH ALL OF YOU HELPING SAVE EVERY TIME AND A VERY PLEASANT HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON.

I CAN'T SIT DOWN WITHOUT MR. CHAIRMAN REMINDING ME WHAT WE STILL NEED DRAINAGE ON THE HILL TO THE HIGHWAY AND I AM SURE OUR FAMILY IS AS WELL OF OUR WE HAVE HIGHWAY 78 EXTENSION WE THE HIGHWAY WE NEED THE HIGHWAY THE COMMUNITY AND THE REGION NEEDS THE HIGHWAY.

LET ME BE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED IN FLORIDA FOR US WE WANT TO KNOW. MY POINT IS THAT IT'S CERTAINLY WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY IF THAT WAS TO FROM THE GROUND WAR AND CREEK STAY ABOVE GROUND LEVEL UNTIL IT DUE SPANISH RAILROAD.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OF SPEAKING TONIGHT AND MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU ESPECIALLY THOSE RETIRED. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. I'D LIKE TO INTERRUPT.

I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MR. BARNWELL IS MR. FEBRUARY IN THE SOUTH CAROLINA AFRICAN-AMERICAN CALENDAR THIS YEAR SO EXCELLENT GRANT. MR. GOOD EVENING, GRANT.

GOOD EVENING. SO TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW. MY NAME IS GRANT MCCLURE IN THE SOUTH THIS PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE.

ITEM ON THE AGENDA EVENING INVOLVES THE POTENTIAL LAND SWAP 60 ACRES FROM THE ROLLING CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM TO CONSTRUCT A NEW LIBRARY NEW PARKS, REC FIELDS AND A WASTE RECOVERY FACILITY. WE DO NOT QUESTION THE NEED FOR THESE FACILITIES BUT WE BELIEVE TRANSFER OF REMAINING CRITICAL PROPERTY MUST BE SCRUTINIZED. UPHOLD THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROGRAM AND THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE PROPERTIES INCLUSION IN THE PROGRAM.

THE LOSS OF 60 ACRES OF PROTECTED AND THEN IN EXCHANGE FOR JUST EIGHT ACRES IS CONCERNING. IN ADDITION THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ANALYSIS OF THE RESOURCE VALUES LOST AND GAINED IN THIS EXCHANGE. WE UNDERSTAND THE EVERGREEN EVERGREEN AND NEWLY TRACTS INCLUDED IN THE ROAD CRITICAL PROGRAM FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND TO PROTECT WATERS OF THE OKATIE RIVER. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ASSESSMENT OF AND WHETHER IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THE REMAINING LAND ON THE NEW LEASE TRACT BUILDINGS PURPOSES ESPECIALLY WHEN FACTORING IN CONVERSION OF THE ADJOINING 60 ACRES TO AN PERVIOUS DEVELOPMENT. THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE AN ASSESSMENT OF THE NATURAL RESOURCE VALUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE STATE MARY'S AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY PARCELS TO ENSURE THAT THEY WILL MEANINGFULLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE REAL AND CRITICAL PROGRAM.

THIS INFORMATION IS CRITICAL FOR TO MAKE A MEANINGFUL AND INFORMED DECISION ON THE SWAP AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE REAL AND CRITICAL BOARD TAKE UP THIS AT THEIR DECEMBER MEETING AND DECIDED FURTHER ANALYSIS WAS NEEDED DETERMINE IS INDEED A FAIR SWAP AND WE URGE THE COUNCIL POSTPONE THIS ISSUE UNTIL THE ABOVE ANALYSIS CAN BE CONDUCTED AND THAT CAN GIVE A

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RECOMMENDATION. NO THANK YOU. YOU KNOW WHAT'S NEXT?

[8. LIASION AND COMMITTEE REPORTS]

THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NAME MEMBER PLEASE TO SPEAK. MR. ROBERT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

WE DO HAVE ONE ITEM COMING OUT OF PUBLIC FACILITIES ASYLUM FILING CENTER AGENDA AND IT IS BASICALLY A CONTRACT FOR CALVERT RIGHT TO DO THINGS. ONE IS THE FUNDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND THE SECOND IS THE REPACKAGING OF IT SINCE WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE'RE GOING TO REBUILD IT AND I'M IN FAVOR OF WHAT IS PROPOSED JUST COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON IT. YOU KNOW WHEN WE LIKE THE RUNWAY THERE WERE TWO PRIMARY BENEFITS I THINK ONE WAS THAT IT HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON AVIATION AND THAT ROLLS INTO HOSPITALITY AND ALSO INTO PROPERTY VALUES. AND THE SECOND WAS IT PRESERVED THE COMMERCIAL SERVICE WHICH WAS REALLY IN THE END THE RUNWAY IS MORE IN LINE IN MY SENSE OF WHERE IT IS AS POINT OF THE COUNCIL AND THE IN THE CITIZENS THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT TOO MUCH GROWTH AND TOO MANY VISITORS. THERE'S NOT A LARGE APPETITE FOR THEM TO PUT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED TERMINAL SO IT IS LOGICAL TO DOWNSIZE IT. NOW WHEN WE DO THAT I THINK THERE WILL BE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WILL BE COVERED CLEARLY EVEN AT A REDUCED SIZE THAT WILL COVER THE RESIDENTIAL DEMAND. THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND IT WILL ALSO SERVICE THE IF YOU WILL SHOULDERS SEASONS IN THE SPRING AND FALL WHICH GOOD HOSPITALITY TIMES FOR THE THE ISLAND APPROPRIATE HOSPITALITY . SO THE ONLY PIECE THAT WOULD PERHAPS BE SLIGHTLY SHORTENED WOULD BE THE PEAK DEMAND DURING THE SUMMER.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IT'S BEEN KIND OF A ROLLER COASTER ON THE THE TRAFFIC GOING UP AND DOWN. A OF ISSUES BEYOND THEIR CONTROL.

SO IN ANY EVENT I DO THINK THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DOWNSIZE IT.

I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION FOR STAFF TO DEAL WITH IS WHETHER YOU YOU KNOW, JUST OUT WHAT THE SIZE BE AND DO IT ONCE OR WHETHER YOU TAKE THE CURRENTLY ON AND DO IT IN TWO PHASES.

I KIND OF FAVOR PERSONALLY JUST DOWNSIZING TO WHAT WE CAN AFFORD THE MOST PART THE WORST OF ALL WORLDS WOULD BE IF WE ENDED UP DOING TWO PHASES AND THE FIRST ONE GOT COMPLETED EVERYTHING BACK IN THE SECOND YEAR AND THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE YOU GO OUT OF TOWN ANYWAY.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD ONE AND I COMMEND THE COUNCIL APPROVAL. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER THAN THE CAREER SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND THE APPOINTMENT OF MARILYN HARRIS COUNTY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BEAUFORT HOUSING AUTHORITY. THE OTHERS SAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER

[9. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]

NINE WHICH IS THE APPROVAL THE CONSENT AGENDA. I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. I'M SECOND. OKAY.

WHO WAS FIRST? MR. SOMERVILLE WAS FIRST AND MR. HARRISON WOULD BE SECOND MOTIONED AND ANY DISCUSSION SAYING NONE. THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE

[10. PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO SWAP IDENTIFIED PROPERTIES BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM TO BUILD AN ADDITIONAL LIBRARY, ADDITIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION FIELDS, AND A SOLID WASTE MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY IN SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY]

APPROVED WITHOUT. ITEM NUMBER TEN IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO SWAP IDENTIFIED PROPERTIES BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND PROGRAM TO BUILD THEM AN ADDITIONAL LIBRARY, ADDITIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION FIELD AND THE SOLID WASTE MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY IN SOUTHERN COUNTY.

MS. HOWARD MIGHT MOTION TO POSTPONE OR DELAY ITS WORD AND POSTPONE THIS PUBLIC HEARING IN THIS MOTION UNTIL RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE FEEL FILTER WHICH WILL BE NEXT WEEK AND THEY WILL NEED THE MEETING IN WHICH THE AND JANUARY SO IT MIGHT BE THE LAST COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING OF JANUARY BEFORE WE CAN BRING THIS BACK UP AGAIN. OKAY. AND IF I'M THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING IN JANUARY WILL BE THE NINTH AND THE 23RD SO IT WOULD BE THE 20/23 SO YOUR MOTION WOULD BE POSTPONE ACTION THE 23RD OF JANUARY 2023. IS THERE A SECOND MR. HERBERT.

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WE WILL BE THE SECOND. AND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION? FRANKLY, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY YES, FRANKLY I WOULD BE MORE THAN INCLINED TO VOTE TO DENY THIS MOTION. BUT SINCE THIS SEEMS TO BE THE AGREED UPON PATH FOR TODAY I'LL GO AHEAD AND LEAVE THIS FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO EVERYBODY THAT THIS THIS PARTICULAR MOTION THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM HAS THE OPPORTUNITY OR THE PROBABLY WILL RESULT IN KILLING THE PROGRAM OUR RURAL AND CRITICAL PROGRAM SO I, I REALLY ADVISE THE NEXT COUNCIL BE VERY CIRCUMSPECT AND VERY THOUGHTFUL IN THEIR APPROACH TO THIS MATTER. Q ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO QUICK CAN YOU STILL HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY IS AND HOW YOU ADVERTISED IT BEFORE WE DELAY THIS ACTUALLY WASN'T PUBLISHED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TODAY OR WAS IT? IT WAS OKAY YOU CAN HAVE YOUR PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU WANT TO THEN SURE. I FEEL OBLIGATED TO DO THAT.

BUT THE CHAIRMAN IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WANTS TALKING MATTER, HAVING IT AND HAVING IT THIS EVENING WILL KEEP US FROM HAVING DO IT AGAIN IN JANUARY. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH DOING IT AGAIN IN JANUARY. WELL, EXCEPT FOR OF THE COST OF THE ADVERTISING.

OKAY. IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME WHO WISHES TO MAKE THEIR FEELINGS KNOWN? ITEM NUMBER TEN WHICH IS TO BE POSTED UNTIL ACTION IS TAKEN BY RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS IN JANUARY. SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE THE PROBLEM. THERE'S NO ONE. OKAY, I DO HAVE A SECOND QUESTION. SOMEBODY REFRESH MY MEMORY. WE POSTPONE THIS ONCE BEFORE BECAUSE FROM QUICK DIDN'T GET IT IN TIME BUT THEN THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD SOME TYPE OF OTHER FIELD HAVE PREVIOUSLY RIGHT THIS MINUTE LAST WEEK RIGHT.

AND AFTER A VERY LONG DISCUSSION IN PRESENTATIONS THIS WAS WHAT WAS VOTED ON AT THE RURAL AND CRITICAL AND WE'RE MEETING DO A FIELD TRIP TO SEE ALL THE SITES INCLUDING CAMP SITE MARY. IT WASN'T THAT YOU MISSED THAT IN THE LAST MEETING ON THEIR FIELD TRIP IT WAS A DIFFERENT FEEL. I'M TO CLOSE THE DELAY.

I THINK WE'VE ALREADY DELAYED IT ONCE. I THINK THIS COUNTY COUNCIL HAS BEEN EDUCATED ON IT. THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION .

SO I WILL VOTE AGAINST THE POSTPONEMENT. OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION? THIS IS ON THE AMENDMENT WE'RE VOTING ON TO POSTPONE ACTION UNTIL SEPTEMBER JANUARY 20, JANUARY 23RD OF 2023 OF BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NO VOTES. WILL THE ALL THE ROLL PLEASE. COUNCILMEMBER HOWARD IS COUNCILMEMBER HERSHMAN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER CUNNINGHAM.

NO. COUNCILMAN LLEWELLYN. NO.

COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON. NO. COUNCILMEMBER MCGOWAN.

COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER RODMAN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER.

IF COUNCILMEMBER BISOU SUMMERVILLE OR. YES.

CHAIRMAN. PLACEMENT. YES IT PASSES EIGHT THREE NOW.

OKAY. THE IS NOW POSTPONED OR ACTIONED UNTIL JANUARY THIRD.

ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVAL. YOU JUST DON'T PRESS THAT OR DON'T GO ON MUTE. OKAY DON'T PRESS THAT. I WASN'T SURE WHAT TO DO.

IT'S ON ITS OWN. THANK YOU. IN ORDER FOR THIS ONE TO TAKE SIX ELECTION NEEDS EIGHT VOTES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THAT'S CORRECT.

[11. PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY - 36 HUNTER ROAD, HILTON HEAD ISLAND, SC 29926 - AND AVIS BUDGET GROUP]

OKAY. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU OKAY? GETTING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY 3600 ROAD HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND THE BUDGET GROUP. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

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SO MR. MAKES THE MOTION. MR. MCGOWAN IS HERE SOMEWHERE. OKAY.

WILL TURN TO THE PUBLIC. IS THERE ANYONE IN AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. THAT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION? IS THERE ANYONE ON COUNCIL WHICH IS TO DISCUSS THIS? I CAN SING.

[12. THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE (CDC): SECTION 5.3.20 (ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES APPLICABILITY) AND APPENDIX, DIVISION A.1.20 (COMMUNITY PRESERVATION DISTRICTS - RELATIONSHIP TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE) TO RESTRICT THAT A SHIPPING CONTAINER OR OTHER SIMILAR PORTABLE STORAGE CONTAINER IS NOT CONSIDERED A DWELLING.]

NONE OF THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTIONS.

ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE PROTECTION AMENDMENT AND WILL DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 5.3.18 ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES APPLICABLE AND APPENDIX 8.1. 20 COMMUNITY PRESERVATION DISTRICT'S RELATIONSHIP TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE TO RESTRICT OTHER SHIPPING CONTAINER OR OTHER SIMILAR PORTABLE STORAGE CONTAINERS IS NOT CONSIDERED A DWELLING MAY HAVE YOUR MOTION SO MORGAN'S CHAIRMAN OKAY.

MR. DAWSON MAKES THE MOTION MISS HOWARD MAKES THE SECOND MOTION AND SECOND ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. MR. ROSS.

YES. SO THE STORAGE CONTAINER WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE IT IS A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE THAT SOMEONE PUTS A STORAGE CONTAINER IN SOMEONE'S BACK BACKYARD THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING A FIRE HAZARD SO IT COULD BE KILLED. IT DOESN'T MEET ALL THE HURRICANE CODES NOW I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT AND MR. CHUCK AND HEALTH CARE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF YOU UP TO THIS QUESTION BUT IF STILL WANTED TO COME BACK AND THEY WANTED TO BUILD WITH STORAGE CONTAINERS AND THEY WANTED TO COME BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD AND ASK FOR REPEAL IS THAT SOMETHING THAT AGAIN SOME WANT TO PROTECT THAT THEY WANT TO DO THESE KIND OF THINGS BUT THEY STILL TO TO TO TO ASK FOR THE ZONING APPEAL TO BUILD A MORE AMOUNT OF STORAGE CONTAINERS SO THIS AMENDMENT IS PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

ANYTHING IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE CAN BE APPEALED A VARIANCE ZONING BOARD AND IT WOULD BE ENTIRELY UP TO THE ZONING BOARD WHAT INFORMATION THEY WOULD WANT TO REVIEW IT.

IT WOULD BE UP TO THEM TO MAKE A DETERMINATION. SO IF SOMEONE DID WANT TO BUILD WITH STORAGE CONTAINERS THEY STILL COULD THAT. BUT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROPER CHANNELS OF ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO BE ABLE DO THAT IF THEY GOT THE VARIANCE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF JUST GOING THROUGH THE VARIANCE DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE THE VARIANCE BUT THAT PROCESS WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THEM.

YES. OKAY THAT'S WHAT I LIKE. YOU DO AGAIN EMPHASIZING AGRICULTURAL NOT BEING IMPACTED BY THIS. RIGHT.

BECAUSE THERE ARE NO DWELLINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AGRICULTURE RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS THIS WILL BE APPROVED ON THIRD READING WITHOUT OBJECTION.

THERE WE GO. OKAY. I WANT TO SAVE THIS FOR YOU BECAUSE INSTEAD OF IT BEFORE OKAY WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE COUNCILMAN DAWSON? YES, COUNCILMAN HOWARD JUST COUNCILMEMBER CUNNINGHAM NOW COUNCILMAN WELLING, COUNCILMEMBER ELLEN COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON YES.

COUNCILMEMBER RODMAN YES. COUNCILMEMBER HARVEY SOMEONE COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER YES.

VICE-CHAIR SUMMERVILLE YES CHAIRMAN PARSONS YES. THE MOTION PASSES EIGHT THREE

[13. THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE WORK ON PRIVATE ROADS.]

YES. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE WORK ON PRIVATE ROADS. I HAVE A MOTION SO MR. CHAIRMAN MR. FLOORING MAKES THE MOTION SECOND MR. GLOVER MAKES THE SECOND ULI MOTION THE SECOND IN THE DISCUSSION I'D LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS. YES SIR, GO AHEAD MR. MCCOLLUM.

THIS IS YOUR THIRD READING. THE FIRST TWO READINGS PROVED TO BE POSITIVE AND AS A RESULT OF INFORMATION THAT WAS DEVELOPED THEREAFTER THIS REFERRED BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL TONIGHT FOR REVIEW, CONSIDERATION AND A FINAL VOTE. THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE CONVENED A MEETING

[00:30:06]

OF WHO RESEARCHED THIS SITUATION AND IT WAS DISCOVERED CLEARLY THAT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RESTRICTION IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA THAT PREVENTS US FROM USING PUBLIC FUNDS TO IMPROVE PRIVATE PROPERTY IF IMPROVEMENT IS THROUGH THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF THOSE PRIVATE OWNERS AND NOT FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD WITH THAT PROHIBITION MIND THE COMMITTEE DECIDED THAT THIS MATTER SHOULD COME WITH THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION INCLUDED THERE ARE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR PUBLIC FUNDS TO BE SPENT ON PRIVATE TO MAINTAIN THEM HOWEVER TO DO SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO AGREE TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO DO THE WORK AND THEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO AGREE TO REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR THE WORK THAT WAS DONE SO THE COUNTY COULD OBTAIN AN ESTIMATE FOR THE TO BE DONE AND INFORM THE OWNERS OF PRIVATE ROAD THAT THE WORK WAS BEING DONE.

THE OWNERS OF THE ROAD WOULD HAVE TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO UNDERTAKE REPAIR AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO PAY FOR IT. WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT THERE ARE OVER A THOUSAND PRIVATE ROADS IN THE COUNTY 287 MILES AND THAT THE LEAST EXPENSIVE REPAIR WILL PROBABLY BE ABOUT $10,000 A MILE. MODERATE ABOUT $25,000 MILE AND AN EXPENSIVE WOULD BE ABOUT $35,000. AND WHILE SO THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO PAY THAT BACK TO THE COUNTY THAT REPAIR WAS UNDERTAKEN THEY COULD PAY ALL AT ONCE OR THEY COULD AGREE TO CREATE A SPECIAL TAX DISTRICT AND THEY COULD HAVE THE REPAIRS PLACED ON THEIR PROPERTY TAX OVER A PERIOD 3 TO 5 YEARS IF THEY WOULD NOT AGREE TO THAT NO PUBLIC FUNDS COULD BE EXPENDED. THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER IN THE COUNTY THAT WOULD ALLOW THE OWNERS OF A PRIVATE TO GIVE THE ROAD TO TOWN AND THEN THE COUNTY BE THE OWNER AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING IT IN THE FUTURE.

THAT PROCESS IS CLEARLY IDENTIFIED AND CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO WISH TO DONATE OWED TO THE COUNTY. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN PRIVATE ROADS AND WOULD CONDUCT THEIR OWN MAINTENANCE ON THE ROADS AND PAY THE BILL THAT MAINTENANCE THE MAINTENANCE IN THIS SITUATION WOULD BE TO ALLOW EMERGENCY VEHICLES ACCESS ON THAT RUN PASSABLE SOMETIMES AFTER A STORM OR FIRE TRUCKS THAT COULD NOT GET DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH OF TREES OVER THE ROAD AND NOT THE THE FIRE ENGINE OFF AS THEY TRY TO PASS SO THE WORK CONSISTS OF MAINTAINING A PRIVATE ROAD USUALLY A DIRT ROAD AND THEN ALSO DOING SOME WORK ON THE TREES TO REMOVE THE BRANCHES THAT WERE HANGING OVER THE ROAD THAT WOULD MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE. YES. SO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE DECIDED NOT TO TAKE A POSITION ON THE MATTER BUT TO SEND IT REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS FULL DELIBERATIVE BODY TONIGHT SO THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION WITH A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A VOTE TO ALLOWED THIS ORDINANCE TO BE CREATED .

WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE AUTHORIZING AN ILLEGAL ORDINANCE THAT IS AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE WHEN WE ISSUE THAT ORDINANCE AND YOU THEN PROBABLY HAVE TO UNDERTAKE A EFFORT TO HAVE THAT REPEALED AND TO DO THAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO COURT OF COMPETENT JURISDICTION, HAVE THE ORDINANCE INVALID CITATIONS AND AGAINST THE LANGUAGE CONSTITUTION SO TWO OCCASIONS WE WOULD PROBABLY LOOK FOOLISH WE WOULD LOOK FOOLISH TO PASS THE ORDINANCE AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK FOOLISH OURSELVES AND REPEAL THAT.

YES. SO WE'RE MAKING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE THROUGH THE COUNTY TO THE COUNCIL. RIGHT. SO THEY'RE MAKING FULLY INFORMED DECISION AS TO HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED. SO A YES VOTE FOR YES IS THE PASSING OF AN ILLEGAL ORDINANCE A NO VOTE IS THE FINAL VOTE AND IT WILL GO AWAY.

LET ME FINISH BY SAYING THAT LOOKING WE ARE GOING TO ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY SERVICES TO CONTINUE TO STUDY THIS MATTER. WE ARE TRYING TO DECIDE IF IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO BUYING FOUR WHEEL DRIVE AMBULANCES IN THE AND MAKING THEM AVAILABLE MORE THAN A THOUSAND PRIVATE ROADS SOME OF WHICH MAY BE IMPASSABLE AFTER THE STORMS SO THE AMBULANCE THAT WOULD BE GOING IN PERFORM A LIFE SAVING MANEUVER WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED

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IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME DOWN THE ROAD THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS HOW MANY AMBULANCES WE NEED WHAT WOULD COST BE AND WHERE WOULD WE PUT THEM TO ENSURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE THE SECOND THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE THAT COMMITTEE CONSIDER THE LONG RANGE OCCASIONS OF THIS TO SEE IF THERE A WAY WITHIN THE LANGUAGE OF THE CONSTITUTION TO PROVIDE SERVICE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THESE ROADS AND A PART OF THE PUBLIC GOOD.

THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT THE MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT IN THE ROADS CAN'T BE DONE IF IT'S FOR THE EXCLUSIVE OF THOSE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WE DO PERFORM MAINTENANCE ON SHIPS THAT ARE PRIVATELY BUT THAT'S THE PUBLIC GOOD.

IT'S MORE PEOPLE THAN THE OWNER OF THE BOAT RAMP USES THE BOAT RAMP IF THE LOGIC THERE IF YOU FOLLOW THAT LOGIC SO MY FATHER ONCE TOLD ME TO STOP TALKING WHEN I WAS FINISHED SO I THINK I'LL STOP. I THINK I'VE MADE ENOUGH POINTS .

WE WANT TO CONSIDER WHAT ACTION THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE GOING FORWARD IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION MR. MCCAIN'S OFFER OF A SOLUTION THAT MEETS NOT ONLY LEGAL REQUIREMENTS IN THE STATE BUT THE GENERALLY THE LENGTH OF THE COUNTY TO RESPECT PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. WELL, WE'LL SEE. SO AND I THANK YOU FOR OFFERING US WAY OUT AND I THINK WHAT IT ENTAILS REALLY IS THAT WE DELAY A FINAL VOTE ON THIS AND HAVE THIS MATTER RETURNED AFTER A BREAK CONSIDERATION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND RETURN WITH AN AMENDED ORDINANCE SPELLS EXACTLY WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE, WHAT THE OPTIONS TO THE PUBLIC ARE. AND SO I'M WONDERING IF PERHAPS YOU WOULD OFFER A MOTION POSTPONE IN RETURN FOR SECOND READING AFTER RECONSIDERATION BY THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE. WELL, THIS THIRD READING LIKE THIS BEFORE WELL RIGHT.

AND YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO RETURN IT TO YOUR COMMITTEE. I WASN'T MAKER I WAS JUST COMMENTING IN THE DISCUSSION STAGE IF MR. PLURAL MAKES THE MOTION I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THOSE STARTED. WE RETURN THIS MATTER TO THE THE COMMUNITY SERVICES OR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR RECONSIDERATION AND AMENDMENT OF THEIR PROPOSED ORDINANCE BE MORE IN COMPLIANCE STATEMENT SO SECOND COMMENT ON AN EVENT WELL LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CORRECT LANGUAGE WE'RE POSTPONING ACTION SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE AS TO WHEN WE'RE POSTPONING THIS REFERRAL TO A COMMITTEE THAT'S NOT REALLY REQUIRED.

ALL RIGHT. WE WANT TO REFER THIS BACK TO COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMUNITY.

THAT'S CORRECT UNDERSTANDING SO THAT IT WILL BE RETURNING TO US SECOND READING AT THAT TIME.

OKAY. WELL, MR. FOLEY MADE THE MOTION AND MR. GLOVER MADE, 2 SECONDS.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS? I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY WHETHER IT'S SECOND AND THIRD READING PRESENTED THE THIRD READING TONIGHT I ASSUME THAT WITH MAJOR CHANGES CIRCLES WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT YEAH WE'LL WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO BRING IT BACK FOR TO READING TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ALAN'S POINT AND YOU DO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALL THAT BECAUSE IT'LL BE SIGNIFICANT IT'LL BE A SIGNIFICANT REWRITE WHAT WE'VE CURRENTLY PRESENTED TO YOU I WOULD LIKE MAKE ONE OTHER STATEMENT FOR THE COUNCIL JUST FOR THEIR KNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE MAY CHANGE IN THE NEW YEAR. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEING REFERRED TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE TONIGHT, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT MAY NOT BE WHAT THE COMMITTEE CALLED IN JANUARY. OKAY. MR. CUNNINGHAM YEAH.

WHEN THIS ORIGINALLY GOT PUSHED BACK TO THE COMMITTEES I WAS ON THAT MOTION BECAUSE I WAS AWARE THAT IT WAS ILLEGAL AND WITH THE HOPES OF FINDING A WAY TO GET THIS PASSED THE RIGHT WAY LEGALLY HERE IN OUR COUNTY IN SOUTH CAROLINA THAT GOT PUSHED BACK TO THE COMMITTEE WE GOT THE INFORMATION AND IT CAME BACK IN HOW IT IS ILLEGAL AND NOT ONLY THAT WE GOT A DOLLAR AMOUNT WHICH A LOT OF US REQUESTED AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 5 TO $10 MILLION BASED ON NUMBERS WE WERE GIVEN. WITH THAT SAID, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT MUCH OF A MAJOR STRUCTURE. DOESN'T IT JUST MAKE MORE SENSE TO SHOOT THIS DOWN NOW AND RESTART FROM THE GROUND UP AND SEE WHICH ROUTE TO GO BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROPERTY. WE HAVE HEIRS PROPERTY, WE HAVE

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COMMUNITIES THAT ONE ROAD THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OTHER AVENUES WE CAN TAKE IT IT MIGHT NOT BE A ONE SHOE FITS ALL IT MIGHT BE TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROPERTIES AND I DON'T SEE HOW THAT GETS DONE THIS ORDINANCE AND I KNOW THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT THAT'S PUT IN THIS PROJECT AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD PIECES IN IT THAT WE CAN USE AS BUILDING BLOCKS BUT I DON'T SEE HOW ONE WE'RE COMING OUT THE FINDING THAT IF WE USE PUBLIC DOLLARS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE LEGAL OTHER THAN THE ORDINANCES WE ALREADY HAVE PUT IN PLACE HOW WE CAN MAKE AN INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE THIS EVEN COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL SO I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE TURNED DOWN TODAY AND I IT SHOULD BE PUT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR SPECIFIC TYPES OF ROADS THAT WHERE WE'RE TALKING AND THE OTHER COMMENTS AND THINGS TO I YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE MOTION THAT BRIAN IS OFFERED TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD TO THAT AT THIS ORDINANCE TO NOT DEAL WITH ALL PRIVATE ROAD IN COUNTY YOU ONLY DEALT WITH ROADS THAT WAS THAT WAS NECESSARY FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES SO THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE PART WE REFUSE TO GO DOWN A ROAD BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE OF THE ROAD THEN THE COUNTY WOULD STEP IN IF THE AMBULANCE SERVICES DECIDED THAT THE RULE WAS TOO IT WAS IMPASSABLE WOULD REFUSE TO GO DOWN THERE.

THEN THE COUNTY WOULD STEP IN TO TAKE ITS CITIZENS YOU KNOW, GO TO LITTLE FURTHER HOME HEALTH ALSO SEE ISSUES AROUND THESE ROADS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THEY ARE REFUSING TO GO DOWN THESE ROADS BECAUSE OF THAT. SO IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF AN HEALTH ISSUE FOR OUR CITIZENS. EVERY CITIZENS IN COUNTY DO NOT NEED MAINTENANCE IN THE COUNTY WOULD NOT BE MAINTENANCE ON ALL ROADS OF PRIVATE.

THERE ARE SOME ROADS THAT THE OWNER REQUESTED FOR THE COUNTY TO TAKE OVER BUT EVERYBODY DOWN THAT ROAD HAS TO ASSIGN THAT THAT RIGHT AWAY AND THEY'RE REFUSING TO DO THAT.

SO IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT BUT YET THE SERVICES HAS TO HAVE TO BE PROVIDED FOR THE CITIZEN. IT'S REALLY I KNOW IT WOULD BE PERCEIVED AS BEING AGAINST THE LAW BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE COURAGE STAND UP AGAINST A LAW THAT'S NOT WORKING FOR YOU AND I'M ONE OF THEM DOING THIS UNIT NOW I ALSO WOULD GO FURTHER I SEE THAT WE DO HAVE AN ASSET TO WHAT IT WAS WORTH AND THAT OF A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO SEES SOME OF THIS ORDINANCE. MR. NEWTON IS NOW THE CHAIRMAN OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND . HE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP US NAVIGATE THIS.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT IF WE ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN AND TO CHOOSE TO SEEK OUT FOR THE RESOURCES WE MAY COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GIVE TO OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE IN NEED OF THIS MAINTENANCE AT THIS TIME AS CHAIRMAN JUST THIS WITHIN THIS BODY NUMEROUS TIMES AND IT HAS BEEN SENT BACK TO COMMUNITY SERVICES AND I WAS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION IN THE SERVICES I DON'T REMEMBER WHO WAS PRESENT AT DISCUSSIONS BUT I THINK COMMUNITY SERVICES HAVE DONE JUST THAT THEY CAN DO WITH THIS ORDINANCE AS IT'S CURRENTLY CONFIGURED.

I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST POSTPONING IT BECAUSE I DON'T THIS ORDINANCE AS IT'S CURRENTLY CONFIGURED CAN BE CAN BE FACED. I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO I THINK I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH AND THINK I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD DEPRIVE THE NEW COUNCIL OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THIS.

BUT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO TO TAKE A TO A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

I THINK WE GOT OFF WE GOT OFF ON THE ROAD TO NOWHERE HERE. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE IT AND. MR. DAWSON YES, I, I HEAR ALL THAT HAS BEEN SAID AND I CONCUR WITH THE FACT THAT MAYBE POSTPONEMENT IS THE TO GO

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TEMPORARILY. BUT I SAY TO COUNCIL AS A WHOLE THAT WE HAVE A SITUATION ON HAND WHERE WE PUT THE ADMINISTRATOR AND HIS STAFF IN A IN A TERRIBLE SITUATION WHEN AN EMERGENCY DOES ARISE AND WE CAN PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT ARE NEEDED ON THESE PRIVATE ROADS, I'LL GIVE YOU A PRIME EXAMPLE. ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD IT WASN'T A HURRICANE OR JUST A AND THERE WAS A PRIVATE RAMBLIN ROSE WHERE A TREE FELL ACROSS THE ROAD TO WHERE THE ALL THE HOMES THAT WERE ON THE ROAD COULDN'T GET OUT OF THE ROAD TO GIVE TO ACCESS TO MAIN HIGHWAY TO ACTUALLY GO TO WORK GO SHOP GO TO DO ANYTHING THEY COULDN'T GET OUT AND SO I, I EMAILED THE COUNTY AND PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR DESIGN AND ASKED BOTH OF THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND GET THESE FOLKS ON THAT ROAD SOME RELIEF.

NEIL DECI RESPONDED AND SAID THAT PRIVATE OWNED PROPERTY AND THE COUNTY CAN'T DO CAN'T PERFORM ANY WORK ON PRIVATE ROADS AND SO AFTER TWO DAYS OF THOSE PEOPLE NOT BEING TO GET OUT OUT OF THERE ON THEIR ROADS THEY CALLED THE CHANNEL 11 NEWS FOLKS W T C AND THEY BROUGHT CASC IT BROADCAST ON LIVE TELEVISION. IT WAS AFTER THAT BROADCAST THAT A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TOOK AN EFFORT TO INFORM OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO ACTUALLY GO AND REMOVE THAT TREE SO IF THOSE FOLKS GET OUT OUR ROAD NOW I SAID ALL OF THAT JUST TO SAY IT SHOULDN'T HAVE EVER HAD TO COME TO THAT POINT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WE GOT TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH THIS SITUATION BECAUSE IF WE DON'T THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND COUNCIL WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE SUED AT SOME POINT BECAUSE OF THESE PRIVATE ROADS BECAUSE OF AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE ASSISTANCE THAT ARE NEEDED . SO I, I SAY THAT RATHER WE VOTE THIS DOWN RATHER TO POSTPONE BUT WHATEVER DO WE NEED TO PROBABLY ASK OUR LEGAL STAFF THE ADMINISTRATOR, OUR LEGAL STAFF TO CONFER WITH OUR STATE LEGISLATORS TO SEE WHAT ASSISTANCE THEY CAN GIVE US ABOUT THIS. BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME MEASURE IN PLACE TO WHERE WE CAN WITH THIS SITUATION. OTHER THAN THAT, OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES FOLKS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THESE ROAD THESE PRIVATE ROADS UNDER EXTREME CONDITIONS FOUR WHEEL DRIVE, A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE WON'T DO US ANY GOOD IF YOU CAN'T GET ACROSS A TREE THAT'S BLOCKING THE ROAD. I'M STOPPING NOW. I'M STOPPING THAT.

MR. ROBERT THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS IS PROBABLY MY HOPE GETS RESOLVED IN DUE COURSE AND I DO THINK IT LENDS ITSELF TO STEPPING BACK TAKING A DEEP BREATH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN BECAUSE WE ARE DEALING WITH FINALLY A STATE CONSTITUTION. SO I AGREE WITH I THINK I THINK WE BETTER BE SERVED TO NOT ONLY THIS BUT TO STEP BACK TAKE A FRESH APPROACH PIECE OF PAPER AND FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO IT. THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF LEGAL DISCUSSIONS IT'S NEEDED SO I POSIT THAT AROUND THIS FOR SOMEONE ELSE IS THERE ANY OTHER ONE WHO HAS NOT SPOKEN YET WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES THIS IS THE FIRST FEW TIMES BUT AFTER ALL THE EVIDENCE, EVERYTHING WE'VE SHOWN PROVES THAT THE COMMUNITY AND I DON'T THINK THIS ORDINANCE IS FEASIBLE SO I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THAT BUT I DON'T WANT US TO QUIT WORKING ON IT.

OKAY. DID YOU CALL THE ROOM? YES.

WRAP IT UP. WRAP UP. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WAS THE DOSSIER SAID THAT I CAN ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT HAPPENED THE PAST BUT I'M CERTAINLY NOT BOUND BY IT AND I THINK THAT WAS A TERRIBLE MISTAKE I THINK THAT WAS AN INJUSTICE NOT TO GO DOWN HERE AND MEET YOU ACTUALLY HOWEVER THIS POSTPONING THIS FOR FIVE OR SIX MONTHS DOESN'T DO US ANY GOOD I THINK THIS SHOULD BE DISPOSED OF AND A WHOLE EFFORT SHOULD BE UNDERTAKEN TO FIND A WAY TO IF THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO IMPROVE PRIVATE FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD IN LINE WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION. I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO THIS ON THE BOOKS FOR FIVE OR SIX MONTHS. I THINK WE SHOULD JUST CLOSE

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OUT, DEVELOP THAT COMMITTEE, LET IT DO ITS WORK AND THEY'RE FINISHED COME BACK CAN YOU WITHOUT A DATE CERTAIN AND WE SHOULD CONSIDER ORDINANCE IT IS THAT THEY BRING IN THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED MEANS A WHOLE NEW LOOK AND A WHOLE NEW ORDINANCE I THINK KEEPING THIS OPEN IS REALLY UNNECESSARY. OKAY COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROOM THIS IS ON THE REFERRAL TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND A POSTPONEMENT. YEAH.

COUNCILMAN RUSSELL LLEWELLYN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER YES.

COUNCILMEMBER CUNNINGHAM NO. COUNCILMEMBER DODSON YES. COUNCILMEMBER MCGOWAN NO.

COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON NO. COUNCILMEMBER HOWARD NO.

COUNCILMEMBER RODMAN NO COUNCILMEMBER I KNOW VICE-CHAIR SUMMERVILLE NO CHAIRMAN PERCENT NO THE MOTION FAILS WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL THIRD READING OF THE ORDINANCE ANY FURTHER MR. RAHMAN I GUESS EXPAND BRIEFLY CHAIRMAN AND LARRY'S COMMENTS BECAUSE I THINK ALTERNATIVE WAY OF FUNDING THIS IS WHAT'S CALLED A SPECIAL DISTRICT AND ASSUMING THAT A GROUP OF PEOPLE UNANIMOUSLY AGREE TO DO SOMETHING ON STATE LAW IN THE SPECIAL TAX DISTRICT AND ESSENTIALLY THE WAY IT IS PEOPLE DRAW A BOUNDARY AROUND WHATEVER IS IN THIS CASE WOULD BE THE ROAD AND WE TO MECHANISMS TO GO FORWARD IF 75% OF THEM BASED ON A PROPERTY VALUE BASIS AGREE CAN DO IT BY PETITION IF 15% OF THEM WANT TO HAVE AN ELECTION THEY CAN PETITION THE COUNTY TO CONDUCT THAT ELECTION AND THEN WHEN THE ELECTION IS CONDUCTED IF THERE'S A MAJORITY THEN ALL OF THEM GO ALONG. SO FOR EXAMPLE 60% OF THE PEOPLE AGREED AND 40% DIDN'T DO IT ALL END UP PAYING YOU WOULD GO THROUGH THE TAX RULES AND IT CAN BE DONE IN A WAY THAT IT CAN BE SPREAD OUT OVER MULTIPLE YEARS.

SO THERE IS THERE IS A GOOD WAY TO DO IT HUNDREDS OF THESE AROUND THE STATE AND STATE CONSTITUTION AND THE STATE STATUTES PROVIDE FOR THE COMMONS.

YES, MR. GLOVER, APPRECIATE MS. TO MR. RAMA MAKING THOSE COMMENTS IS JUST TRYING TO SKEW THIS AND WE HAVE BOOKS 15 AND 17 THAT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITIES WAS SO ELOQUENT HE GAVE US TO READ AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANYBODY IN THIS COUNTY AND IT'S TRUE ALL I THINK IS THIS TO HAVE THEM THINGS THAT HAVE A ONE HAND ACTUALLY TO CREATE THOSE SPECIAL TAX DISTRICTS IT'S A LAW BUILT IN THE ORDINANCE HERE AT THE STATE LEVEL IN THE COUNTY LEVEL THAT ARE REALLY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NEEDS AND THOSE THAT DO NOT MEANS A LIFT OUT. IF I HAD THE RESOURCES I CAN DO EXACTLY WHAT'S IN PIECE 15 AND 70 FOR MY FOR MY COMMUNITY FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR MY ROLE MOST OF CITIZENS IN MY DISTRICT CANNOT AFFORD TO DO THAT NOR WOULD THEY EVER KNOW WHO ACTUALLY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE OTHER THAN THE TAXPAYER AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF IS PROPERTY AND SOME OTHER MEANS.

SO I SAY THAT TO SAY WE NEED TO TRY TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE LEAST AMONG US AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M ADVOCATING I DON'T NEED TO MYSELF BUT IS THE LEAST AMONG US THAT'S ALL.

THANK OKAY. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL? WE'RE VOTING ON THIRD READING OF THE ORDINANCE YES MEANS THAT WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT BEEN DEEMED ILLEGAL COUNCILMEMBER FLUE ELLING YES. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER YES COUNCILMEMBER CUNNINGHAM NO COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON NOW COUNCILMEMBER MCGOWAN

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COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON WE'VE LOST REAL COUNCILMEMBER HOWARD COUNCILWOMAN RODMAN NOW COUNCILMEMBER HARBISON NOW I HEAR SOME OF YOU KNOW CHAIRMAN PASSMAN NO MOTION BILLS ITEM

[14. APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION DECLARING THE RESULTS OF A REFERENDUM TO IMPOSE A ONE (1) PERCENT SALES AND USE TAX SUBJECT TO THE REFERENDUM CALLED FOR BY ORDINANCE 2022/36]

NUMBER 14 IS AN APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION DECLARING THE RESULTS THE REFERENDUM TO IMPROVE IMPOSE A 1% SALES TAX ON USE TAX SUBJECT TO REFERENDUM CALLED FOR BY ONE MEANS 2022 SLASH 36 MOTION PLAYS A MOVEMENT TO CHAIRMAN MR. CUNNINGHAM THE MOTION MISS HOWARD MADE THE SECOND TRULY MOTION AND SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL JUST LIKE TO SAY I'M EXCITED THIS I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH ONE WE WEREN'T SURE IT WAS GOING TO GET PASSED OR NOT. THE REFERENDUM ITSELF WE HAVE A BIG TASK ON OUR HAND AND TWO YEARS TO SHOW THAT WE CAN DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND I HOPE WE GET THAT DONE AND WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ARE TRUSTING US TO GET IT DONE IN A TIMELY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND

[15. SPECIAL RECOGNITION OF OUTGOING COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS:]

I SEE NO OBJECTION. OUR FINAL ITEM IS A SPECIAL RECOGNITION OF OUTGOING COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS LEAVING OUR COUNTY COUNCIL. THIS IS THE LAST MEETING THE YEAR AND ALSO THE LAST MEETING FOR FOUR OF OUR MEMBERS. THEY ARE MR. HARVEY JOHN, MR. LLEWELLYN, MR. SOMERVILLE AND MR. RUDD. WE DO HAVE A PLAQUE AND I WOULD ASK AS YOUR NAME IS CALLED TO JOIN THE PODIUM WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

MR. HARVEY IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR FOR YOU THIS YEAR THANK YOU. AS LONG AS WE KNOW WHAT CAN AND THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. SIR SIR, I WAS TOLD THAT TONIGHT IS MRS. HERBERT'S BIRTHDAY AND HER HUSBAND DIRECTOR NOT HERE SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ACTUALLY MR. THANK YOU. YOU IT'S DANGEROUS HERE.

YOU KNOW I'D LOVE TO BE YOU YOUR BRAIN YOU YOU CAN READ OH CAN I SEE THAT? JUST HOLD IT UP. THAT'S VERY NICE. EACH OF THE PLANTS SHOWS ONLY COUNCIL INFORMATION ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR COUNCIL. THE NUMBER OF DREAMS BEFORE WE BACK TO OUR CITIZENS DO ANY OF THE OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH TO MAKE A STATEMENT MR.

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HARVEY THAT THE FLOOR IS YOURS I I'M NOT PREPARED TO SAY ANYTHING UNTIL RIGHT AT THIS VERY MOMENT I I APPRECIATE THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST THAT YOU AND YOUR BABY TO HAVE A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY WIFE YEAH IT'S GOOD THAT THAT'S THE BIRTHDAY PRESENT I COULD GIVE HER BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF COUNTY.

IT IS IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING FOUR YEARS AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGE, AN INTERESTING TIME OVER TIMES AND A LOT OF INTERESTING DELIBERATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD.

AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE FELLOWSHIP AND THE THE HEALTHY DEBATE THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. JUST REMEMBER EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. THANK YOU. YOU CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA OF CRUSADER MR. PAUL THANK CONCERNS.

WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE IN 2008 I ASKED SIMPLE QUESTION OF THE VOTERS ARE YOU BETTER OFF NOW THAN YOU WERE AND YEARS AGO I RAN ON A PROMISE TO DO MY BEST TO PRESERVE IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYBODY IN COUNTY NOT ONLY CONSTITUENTS AT THAT TIME BUT THE FUTURE RESIDENTS COUNTY THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE THIS BALANCE MUST TRAIL THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM PURCHASERS AND THEIR ASSOCIATION AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THE OPEN LAND TRUST, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPROVE RELATIONSHIP AND COMMUNICATION WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES AIRPORT ROAD AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. WE'VE DONE A LOT IN TEN YEARS AND I THINK YES WE ARE BETTER OFF NOW THAN WE WERE IN YEARS AGO AND I THANK YOU AND I THANK ALL OF THE COUNCIL FOR HELPING US GET HERE IN COUNTY STAFF, IN THE ADMINISTRATIONS, IN THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HELPING GET US HERE. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU COULDN'T DO MY WITHOUT TALKING TO THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THOSE REMAINING ON COUNCIL REMEMBER YOU ARE HERE TO SERVE THE INTERESTS OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE THERE NEEDS TO BE HEARD MY SUPPORTERS OVER THE YEARS THANK YOU I'LL STILL BE AVAILABLE IF I CAN HELP YOU IN ANY WAY PLEASE. REMEMBER THAT MY CONTACT INFORMATION IS PUBLIC TO MY CONSTITUENTS. YOU'VE HELPED ME OVER THE YEARS ,SUPPORTED ME.

THANK YOUR VOTES FOR ME AND THE TRUST YOU'VE PLACED IN MY HANDS AS HUMBLE BE MORE ANY OTHER THING I'VE DONE IN MY LIFE I'M TRULY HONORED FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND HONORED TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT. I HOPE YOU FEEL JUSTIFIED IN THAT TRUST NOW THAT I'VE REACHED THE CONCLUSION OF MY CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE AND FINALLY I'D LIKE TO THANK MY WIFE MY SON GRANDSON, MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS FOR THEIR PATIENCE AND THEIR INPUT AND ADVICE ON A MULTITUDE OF ISSUES OVER THE YEARS I LEAVE OFFICE RETAINING YOUR RESPECT, YOUR ADMIRATION I THINK AND A LOT MORE FRIENDS THAN HAD WHEN I STARTED THIS AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE ALL HELPED. WE SURVIVE WITH MY REPUTATION, MY DIGNITY AND MY PRINCIPLES INTACT. THANK YOU. AND UNDEFEATED BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE MR. RUDMAN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

BEEN MY HIGH HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO HAVE SERVED THESE 16 YEARS YOU'VE RETIRED COUNSEL AND ACTUALLY TWO BEFORE THAT ON THE BOARD OF EDUCATION YOU KNOW IT'S A LOT OF FUN I'VE ENJOYED I ENJOY WORKING ON WHAT I VIEW AS DIFFICULT PROBLEMS AND HOPEFULLY MAKE A SMALL CONTRIBUTION OVER YEARS AND I WILL ALWAYS LOOK BACK ON THIS AS THE POINT IN LIFE THAT I TRULY ENJOYED AND I THINK ALL OF YOU THANK YOU, MR. STEELE. THANK YOU, MR..

I WAS RAISED BY MY GRANDFATHER WHO WAS BORN IN 1882 AND HIS FATHER IN THE CIVIL WAR AND WAS WOUNDED AT LEAST THREE TIMES. AND SO MY GRANDFATHER'S IDEA OF DOING A GOOD JOB IS A PRETTY HIGH BAR AND I DON'T EVER REMEMBER HIM COMPLIMENTING ME ON ANYTHING THAT I EVER DID OR TELLING ME THAT I DID A GOOD JOB. ONE DAY HE GAVE ME AN ASSIGNMENT TO DO AND I THOUGHT I DID PARTICULARLY WELL AND I WAS VERY PROUD OF WHAT I'D DONE AND SO I WAS I WAS DOING WHAT YOU SHOULD NEVER DO. I WAS PUSHING FOR A COUPLE AND

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I SAID GRANDDADDY, YOU KNOW I FINISH THAT AND I DID A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB OF THAT AND HE LOOKED AT HE SAID, WELL BOYS, YOU DID MORE GOOD THAN HARM YOU GOT SO AS I LEAVE THIS AUGUST BODY HOPE THAT I'VE DONE MORE GOOD THAN HARM. YOU KNOW, IF YOU VOTE, YOU KNOW NO MATTER SOONER OR LATER YOU VOTE AGAINST EVERYBODY AND AND PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY I REMEMBER THE 99 TIMES THAT YOU VOTED WAY THEY THOUGHT YOU SHOULD THEY REMEMBER THAT ONE TIME THAT YOU VOTED THE WAY THEY THOUGHT THAT YOU SHOULD AND SO EVENTUALLY YOU DON'T HAVE A CONSTITUENCY AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I VOTED AGAINST EVERYBODY BUT I DO WANT TO THANK EVERY MEMBER OF THIS BODY AND THIS COUNCIL AND EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL THAT SERVED WITH ME WHO'S NO LONGER AND PARTICULARLY THE STAFF THE STAFF HAS TO BE THE MOST TOLERANT GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT I'VE EVER MET IN MY LIFE NOT TO MENTION PROFESSIONALLY.

AND I ASKED THE OTHER DAY HOW MANY OF THEM HAD DEFENDED ME AND BLOCKED FROM THEIR MARK COLOR AND NOBODY RAISED THEIR HAND. SO I KNOW WHETHER THEY DID OR NOT BUT I APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU APPRECIATE EVERY ONE UP HERE.

IT'S BEEN AN HONOR AND PLEASURE AND I'M ONLY A PHONE CALL AWAY SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YOUR IS THERE IS ONE OTHER PERSON THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS EVENING AND I'M GOING TO TURN TO MY COLLEAGUE MR. MCKELLEN TO TALK ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL I DON'T HAVE A OR ANYTHING SO FEEL FREE .

HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR 122 YEARS HAS DECIDED TO PARTIALLY AND AS I SAID THE OTHER NIGHT MOVED TO MIAMI AND STARTED DRIVING INVESTIGATION AGENCY HE'S GOING TO COURT IN MIAMI AND HAS BEEN A UNITED STATES MARINE AFTER HIS SERVICE IN THE MARINE CORPS HE CAME RIGHT DOWN TO SIX YEARS. HE'S MOVED THROUGH A VARIETY OF POSITIONS, ACHIEVED THE RANK OF COLONEL RUNNING THE DETENTION CENTER AND THEN CAME OVER HERE AS AN ASSISTANT COUNTY AREA. I KNOW FEEL FOR MORE THAN A DECADE HE IS A REAL STALWART HE CAN BE RELIED UPON TO TALK TO YOU ANY TIME OF THE DAY OR NIGHT WEEKENDS WHICH I'VE AVAILED MYSELF OF . YOU KNOW THE ONLY TRUE BEATLES FANS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY IT AND WE'VE SHARED A NUMBER OF STORIES AND MOVIE POSTERS AMONG US FEEL WE'RE ALL GOING TO MISS. WE CONGRATULATE YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.

I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS THAT PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO TELL THAT. BUT FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR COLLECTIVE HEARTS WE EXTEND OUR THANKS TO YOU ON THIS. THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING OF 2022.

WE WISH YOU THE VERY, VERY BEST WHEREVER IT IS YOU END UP IN WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE GOING TO DO BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE THE CANDLE IN MY OKAY WE'RE OUR FINAL COMMENTS.

[16. CITIZEN COMMENTS - (ANYONE who wishes to speak during the Citizen Comment portion of the meeting will limit their comments to no longer than three (3) minutes ( a total of 15 minutes ) and will address Council in a respectful manner appropriate to the decorum of the meeting, refraining from the use of profane, abusive, or obscene language)]

IS THERE ANY MEMBER THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. PLEASE STEP. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS PAM AND. I AM AN AUSTRALIAN AND I CAME HERE TONIGHT REALLY TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE ISSUES THAT FACE STATES AND IRELAND AND ESPECIALLY THANK THE MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE RETIRING NEXT YEAR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO SINCERELY THANK YOU EVERY SINGLE ONE THANK YOU THANKS FOR COMING OVER ANYONE ELSE CAMPBELL MR. CAMPBELL. OH, HERE COMES THE CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I'M HERE TO BASICALLY DO THE SAME THING. I STARTED AN EMAIL AND I SAID NO, I'VE THANK YOU I THANK YOU, THANK YOU THANK SO MUCH WHAT YOU'VE DONE AS FAR AS ADDRESS OF THE ISSUES THAT THE RETIRED EMPLOYEES WE'VE BEEN AROUND THE ROSES LIKE WE WOULD SAY ABOUT THAT FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS I

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UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE IN WHEN DUE. YOU ALL HAVE COME FULL CIRCLE AND HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO AT LEAST REMEDY SOME OF THE HURT CAUSED BY THAT ACTION.

PART OF YOUR ADVICE BUT AS A RETIREE AND AS A ADVOCATE FOR AND EMPLOYEES AND ALONE I THINK IS VERY VERY CORPORATE SAY THANK YOU ORDER AND I TOO WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBERS RODNEY LLEWELLYN AND OF YOU SERVING AS PUBLIC SERVANTS THOSE AROUND US WHO WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT SOMETHING I HAVE YOU TO DO BUT DURING THE WE THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH IN BEING PUBLIC SERVANT IS NOT EASY AND WE CERTAINLY KNOW THAT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ALWAYS REWARDING, SAID SUMMERVILLE. BUT CERTAINLY SERVING THE PUBLIC IS AN HONOR SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HAVING US SO WELL.

THANK THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THE OTHERS I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION IF I MAY. YES, SORRY MR. MR. GLOVER I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT MR. BARNWELL WAS OF THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY OF THE CALENDAR I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

YEAH. MY QUESTION IS ONE WHAT WERE YOU WEARING FOR I WAS HOPING YOU WEREN'T GOING TO SAY YOU I TO GET THAT OF MY MIND THAT HAS BEEN IN THAT IN FOR LIKE 20 YEARS IT EVEN YES JAMES WILL BE SUGGESTING YOU'LL SEE AT THE TIME OF THE DAY AND JUST SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL I TO THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY BUT ALSO I WANTED TO SEE OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE WONDERFUL COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT'S GOING OFF FOR THE FINAL TIME THIS YEAR YOU KNOW WE ARE AN ENTITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OF SUPPORT THE LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS OF THE COUNTY ALSO TEND TO GIVE KIND OF A LITTLE REPORT CARD WE WERE ABLE TO IMPACT MORE THAN 1200 FAMILIES THIS YEAR. WE 11 CHILDREN, 11 TEENAGERS TO OUR YOUTH LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AND 487 CHILDREN IN OUR EARLY EDUCATION PROGRAM ALL OF THEM GOING INTO KINDERGARTEN WHICH ARE THIS YEAR SEVEN FIVE IN THE KINDERGARTEN ON PASS THE READING AND UNDERSTAND AT THE LEVEL FOR THE KINDERGARTEN READINESS ASSESSMENT SO WE ARE GLAD TO ACCOMPLISH THAT BUT TO SEE FOUR OR FIVE MEMBERS MOVE I KNOW IT BE MORE TIME TO CELEBRATE BIRTHDAYS, MORE TIME TO YOU KNOW, SEEK GRATITUDE, MORE TIME TO DO WHATEVER IT IS YOU DO. MR. AND TIMES TIME TIME WITH YOUR WIFE AND FAMILIES SO ENJOY THAT YOU CAN ALSO ONCE IN PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE SPENT A GOOD YEAR THANK YOU THANK YOU.

OKAY THIS CONCLUDES THE COUNCIL MEETING. STICK AROUND.

THERE IS STILL SOME COMING

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.