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WE START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

OH, ACTUALLY I SHOULD CALL IT TO ORDER, BUT WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND I'LL THE OFFICIAL CALL TO ORDER HERE.

HOLD ON.

, SOMEBODY DO IT BESIDES ME.

I PLEDGE ALLEG DO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

NOW THAT WE'VE DONE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, UH, THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 28TH.

AND, UH, LET'S SEE.

WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

, I SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, ROBIN? NO, MA'AM.

WE DO NOT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, WE'LL START WITH THE CONSTRUCTION UPDATE.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

YES.

AND KEVIN KELLY, UH, ROB IS ON VACATION THIS WEEK, SO KEVIN KELLY WILL BE GIVING THAT UPDATE.

SO KEVIN, YOU CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE.

ALRIGHTY.

ARE WE GONNA PULL UP THE SLIDE? YEP.

SEE IT.

SEE IT? I DO.

I DO.

THE, UH, WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY ALL OF YOU HAD A VERY ENJOYABLE THANKSGIVING WEEKEND.

I, I DID.

AND I'M STILL SUFFERING FROM, UH, INTAKE .

THE, UH, I KNOW YOU GUYS ALL GOT THE POWERPOINT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO THE EXECUTIVE, UH, SUMMARY FOR THE OUTLINES.

THE, UH, WE ARE STILL SHOWING FIVE PROJECTS THAT ARE HAVING SOME MATERIAL ISSUES AND DELAYS AND STUFF.

UH, MOLLY, IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE OR SLIDE FIVE AND SEVEN, BATTERY CREEK HIGH SCHOOL IS, HAS GOT VARIOUS, UH, DELAYS ON SOME OF THE MATERIALS AND STUFF.

SO WE'RE TRACKING THEM UNDER A CAUTIONARY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY DUE DILIGENCE ON MAKING SURE THE MATERIALS ARE BEING TRACKED AND WHATEVER, UH, MEANS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO TRY AND, UH, REGAIN SOME OF THAT TIME WHEN THE MATERIALS SHOW UP.

UH, ROBERT SMALLS, WE'RE STILL HAVING, UH, SOME OF DELIVERY DELAYS AS FAR AS THE ELECTRICAL SWITCH GEAR GOES.

THAT'S ON SLIDES EIGHT.

AND THE, UH, MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND THE MAINTENANCE ANNEX, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY DELAYS DUE TO BUDGETARY ISSUES.

AND WE'LL BE REVISITING THEM IN THE SPRING OF 2023, WHICH ISN'T THAT FAR AWAY.

THE, UH, BATTERY CREEK, I MEAN, UH, BLUFFTON L HIGH SCHOOL, THE SWITCH, WHICH IS ATS SWITCH, IS NOW SHOWING THAT.

WE'RE ANTICIPATING GETTING THAT IN FEBRUARY OF, UH, 23.

THAT'S ON SLIDE 32, BY THE WAY.

THERE WE GO.

B THE, UH, BUT ANYWAYS, ONCE THE SWITCH COMES IN, THEN OF COURSE WE'LL BE SCHEDULING TO SHUT DOWN THE POWER TO PUT THE ATS IN THE, UH, ST.

HELEN, THE GYM.

THE, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WAS A REQUEST BY ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH THE, UH, SIGNAGE ON THE, ON THE FACILITY.

SO AJAS HAS BEEN AWARDED, UH, CONTRACT TO SCHEDULE FOR CLEANING THAT SIGN TO KINDA MORE BEAUTIFY THE, UH, EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING THERE.

THIS IS JUST, UH, A REQUEST OF COURSE, SO WE CAN GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

AND IF WE DROP DOWN TO PROJECT CLOSEOUTS RIGHT NOW, UNDER THE FISCAL YEAR 19 AND 20, THE 8% CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, WE'RE SHOWING THAT WE GOT ABOUT EIGHT PROJECTS THAT STILL REMAIN THREE IN THE 19 AND FIVE IN THE 2021 UNDER THE REFERENDUM, WHICH IS SLIDES 83 AND 84.

PROBABLY MOVING TOO FAST FOR YOU, HUH? TRYING, TRYING TO GET Y'ALL MOTIVATED HERE.

ANYWAYS, UH, WE'RE SHOWING RIGHT NOW WE GOT 24 PROJECTS, FIFTEENS THAT CLOSED OUT, THEN COMPLETED THE DATE, AND THEN WE GOT EIGHT THAT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE WERE WORKING ON.

SO WE'RE CARRYING THEM IN YELLOW, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY AND CLOSE THEM PUPPIES OUT AS QUICK AS WE CAN.

THE, UH, UNDER THE BUDGETARY, THE REFERENDUM FINANCE

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EXPENDITURES, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, HUNDRED 74, 1 73 4 10 WAS SPENT, UH, THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST.

THE, UH, THERE YOU GO.

THAT'S THE ONES THAT ARE, WE GOT, UH, NOT QUITE CLOSED OUT YET.

BETTER SHOW IN THE YELLOW AND A COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

THE, UH, ROBERT SMALLS ACADEMY, THE, UH, THEY GOT THE TOPPING OUT CEREMONY SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER THE SEVENTH WITH A DROP IN LUNCH FROM 1130 TILL 1230 WITH A TOUR OF THE SITE.

IF YOU, IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE FOR IT, THAT'LL GO ON AT ABOUT 1:00 PM AND THEN OF COURSE, THE TOPPING OUT CEREMONY WILL HAPPEN AT 2:00 PM THE, UH, BATTERY CREEK, THEY BRIEF THE STAFF ON NOVEMBER THE FIRST, AND THEN THEY GREET THE STUDENTS AT THE SIC ON NOVEMBER THE SEVENTH.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT CAME OUTTA THAT, THAT REQUIRED ANY ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP.

I THINK IT WAS ALL WELL, WELL RECEIVED.

THE SAME WITH, UH, MAY RIVER, UH, HIGH SCHOOL CAT.

THE, UH, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT KAREN DID A GREAT JOB AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN AS IS THAT IS A CUT AND DRY, VERY SHORT BRIEF OF A 95 PAGE POWERPOINT.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS? I CAN'T SEE , TRICIA TRICIA'S HAND.

UM, SO I GOT FIVE ECHOING SOS.

YEAH.

TRYING TO BE CASE WE NOT TO SENTENCE? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

TRY IT AGAIN.

OKAY.

UM, THIS PRESENTATION WAS THE ONE GIVEN TO CLOCK LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO, RIGHT? SO WE'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT OUT OF OUR NORMAL CYCLE.

CAN YOU SHARE WITH US ANY OF THE, UM, THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS THAT CLOCK HAD WITH ANY OF THIS? CAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE APPROACH IS REALLY CRUCIAL TO US AND NORMALLY WE HEAR IT AFTER OUR MEETING.

I MEAN, WE DIDN'T HAVE, UM, ON THE FINANCE, UH, SIDE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

WE ADDED THE SLIDE.

LET SEE WHAT PAGE, A SUMMARY SLIDE THAT THEY HAD COMMENTED ON PREVIOUSLY THAT THEY WERE .

OKAY.

I FINANCIAL SECTION 86.

OKAY.

WAS KIND OF WHERE WE SUMMARIZED, UM, INCLUDING THE BOND PREMIUM CURRENT BUDGET.

UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY WANTED TO SEE.

THEY WERE HAPPY WITH THAT.

OKAY.

UM, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER BIG ITEMS THAT CAME FROM THAT.

AND, AND SO AFTER SEEING THIS FINANCIAL UPDATE, DID THEY, UM, ASK AND, AND WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FINISH EVERYTHING OUT? WELL, AS FAR AS ON OUR SIDE, WE ARE CONTINUING THE STATE THAT WE FEEL THAT THERE IS FUNDING, THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE AND COMPLETE ALL THE PROJECTS .

SO THERE IS NOTHING RIGHT NOW THAT HAS THIS CONCERN ABOUT THE .

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID TALK ABOUT, UM, AT THAT, WHICH IS THE LATEST, WHICH THROUGH OCTOBER, WAS THAT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED SOME MONEY BACK THAT WAS LARGER.

AND I THINK WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UH, WITH THE BOARD BEFORE THEY APPROVED THAT AMENDMENT FOR THE ONE THAT WAS OVER BUDGET, THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD RECEIVED QUITE A BIT OF FUNDING BACK THAT WE DIDN'T EXPECT.

THAT IS BALANCED OUT FUNDING.

THAT WAS A LITTLE OVER.

SO AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, BUDGET AND GETTING THINGS DONE, WE'RE STILL ON TRACK.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UH, MISS BE WRIGHT, MR. CAMPBELL, IT WAS RELATED BUDGETS, WHICH YEAH, THAT'S NOT COST THE CITY OH.

CAUSE IT'S BEING DELETED.

WELL, I WISH I COULD SAY THE ANSWER TO THAT WAS NO.

BUT THE CORRECT ANSWER IS YES.

THAT WILL COST US.

BECAUSE WHAT, IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PROJECT AND, AND I'LL SAY WE HAVE TO DO IT, UM, BECAUSE WE CAN'T WAIT.

IF WE WAIT, WE SLOW DOWN CONSTRUCTION AND EVEN LOSE MORE MONEY.

WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, BECAUSE WHAT THE ELECTRICAL SWITCH GEAR DOES IS LETS YOU TURN BUILDING ON LETS YOU TURN YOUR ING ON SO YOU CAN START DOING ALL THE FINISHED WORK INSIDE.

SO WITHOUT IT COMING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE HAVE A PROGRAMMING PLACE TO DO GENERATORS AND ALL THAT.

AND I ACTUALLY THINK THE COST IS ABOUT, I SAY $300,000

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RANGE IN ORDER TO HAVE, BUT THE COST OF THAT DELIVERY OF THAT STUFF ISN'T GOING SIGNIFICANT.

WELL, THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL COST IS THE I'M YEAH.

AND, AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I, I MEAN WE ORDERED IT OVER A YEAR AHEAD OF TIME.

IT'S JUST ONE OF THIS, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM THROUGHOUT CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW IS ELECTRICAL SWITCH GEAR.

CAN'T IMAGINE TRYING TO STARTERS RIGHT NOW, BIG PROJECT, YOU HAVE TO ORDER IT 18 MONTHS AHEAD.

YOU ALMOST GOTTA ORDER IT BEFORE YOU START TRUCTURE.

NOT, NOT ONLY ELECTRICAL, BUT ALSO H V A C HAS GOT A LONG BEAT TIME ON TOO STILL.

AND IT'S, IT'S LIKE ROBERT SAID, IT'S, IT'S NATIONAL.

IT'S NOT JUST THE LOCAL AREA THING.

TOPPING OUT CEREMONY IS, I MEAN, WHAT IT IS NOVEMBER SEVEN SEVEN, YEAH.

YOU REMEMBER FROM MAY RIVER YOU SIGNED THE LAST STEEL BE AND THEY'LL PUT THE LAST FEED ON THE BUILDING AND THERE'S A LUNCH AND WELL, IT'S KINDA LIKE A GROUNDBREAKING.

WE'LL HAVE A CEREMONY.

WHAT TIME IS IT, ROBERT? WELL THE CEREMONY ITSELF IS AT TWO.

WE'LL BE DOING A TOUR OF THE SCHOOL AT ONE.

THERE'S A DROP IN LUNCH BETWEEN 1130 TO 12.

I WASN'T CLEAR ABOUT DROP IN.

THEY WILL BE HAVING THE LUNCH WITH CONTRACTORS.

SO THE WHOLE CONSTRUCTION GROUP WILL BE THERE.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT.

THAT'S FINE.

IF YOU MAKE IT 12 O'CLOCK, 1215, COME ON IN, GRAB SOME LUNCH, SIT DOWN AND IN THE GROUP.

SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

CAUSE I SAW THE MURAL ONNOT.

THOSE ARE ALL, UM, JUST, UH, SAMPLES.

SO THOSE AREN'T THE FINALS, BUT THAT'S THE WHAT THE FINAL, SO ROBERT, DAVE JUST MET, JUST POINTED US OUT.

IT DOES SAY 2023.

AH, BUT IT IS THIS NEXT WEEK, RIGHT? YES.

YES IT IS.

NEXT WEEK WE WILL MAKE THAT CORRECTION THINKING FOR THAT'S YOU.

WOW.

YOU KNOW, LET'S WE'LL TO YOUR WHERE OUT.

SO WE'RE REALLY, WE'RE YOU, EVERYBODY'S US AGAIN.

SO 20.

YEAH, THANK FOR YEAH, I WAS HOPING SHE DIDN'T SEE THAT'S WHY I SAID 22 .

I WISH I COULD TAKE, THERE'S ANOTHER SIGNIFICANCE TO EM.

DECEMBER 7TH.

D-DAY.

D-DAY.

THAT D-DAY.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YES, SIR.

UM, OKAY.

WELL, UH, I DON'T SEE OTHER QUESTIONS.

I DID WANNA SAY THAT, UM, I APPRECIATED YOU GUYS COMING OUT TO THE SIC WITH THE PLANS FOR THE FIELD HOUSE.

THOSE WERE WELL RECEIVED.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU AND, UH, TIM AND, UH, MR. OTTING, CAROL CRUTCHFIELD WERE ALL THERE, WHICH WAS, UM, REALLY NICE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

I THINK OTHER THAN, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT HELD HEAD MIDDLE TO FINISH THE FIELD HOUSE AND THE FIELD HOUSE RENOVATION AND THEN MAY RIVER, KATE.

I MEAN, WE'RE KIND OF GETTING TO THE END OF THE BIG PROJECTS, RIGHT? BIG I GUESS.

YES, THEY'RE ALL UNDERWAY.

SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH EVERYTHING, ALL THE LARGE PROJECTS.

YEAH, I'LL FEEL, I'LL HAVE A LITTLE FEELING OF RELIEF WHEN WE GET THE GMPS FOR THE MAY RIVER AND THE FIELD HOUSE AND, AND YOU KNOW, ALL THE FINAL STUFF FOR HILTON HEAD MIDDLE.

CUZ THEN I THINK WE CAN MANAGE THOSE OTHER EXPENSES A LOT.

THERE WON'T BE AS MANY BIG SURPRISES.

NOW WE DO HAVE THE GMP FOR HI HEAD MIDDLE.

YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

I GUESS I'M THINKING I WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COST OVERRUNS OR SOMETHING, OR SOMETHING COMING UP THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.

BUT YEAH, SEEMS LIKE WE'RE KIND OF GETTING DOWN TO THE, TO THE SMALL DETAILS, WHICH IS NICE.

I BELIEVE WE LOOKED 85% OF THE PRO, 85% OF THEM FUNDING IS ENCUMBERED OR SPENT AT THIS POINT.

SO WE ONLY HAVE 15% OF THE MONEY LEFT.

IT'S NOT ACCOUNT.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, WELL GREAT.

I GUESS THERE REALLY AREN'T ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.

SO, UH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OE 15.

HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY HAD A NICE FOUR DAY HOLIDAY WEEKEND.

UM, I KNOW I SENT YOU LIKE PROBABLY 500 PAGES HERE.

WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND HOURS GOING OVER ALL THOSE IF YOU GUYS HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO VIEW 'EM.

BUT I'LL START WITH THE, UM, S I GOT THIS WEEKEND, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE, UM, THE CRO PROGRAM, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AT NUMEROUS BOARD MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE LAST PROBABLY SIX OR SEVEN YEARS.

WE'VE HAD FIVE CROS THAT HAVE ASSISTED ME WITH ALL OF OUR LOCKDOWNS IN OUR TRADE TRAINING.

AND, UM, THAT PROGRAM, AT LEAST FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR, IS NO LONGER HAPPENING.

UM, THEY HAVE MANPOWER ISSUES, SO THEY WERE ACTUALLY DOWN TO TWO CROS THAT THEY'VE BEEN ASSIGNED TO SCHOOLS AT THIS POINT.

SO, UM, FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR, WE DON'T HAVE ANY

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CROS.

BUT THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS FOR THE FIRST TIME LAST WEEK AND THEN EVEN TODAY WE HAVE COASTAL SECURITY THAT'S IN EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL, ALL THE ELEMENTARIES AND THE EARLY CHILDHOOD.

UM, ALSO HERE AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE, UM, TODAY WAS THE FIRST DAY THAT THE OFFICER WAS HERE AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE.

SO THAT IS NOW FULLY MAN FULLY RUNNING.

TOOK A LITTLE MORE TIME THAN WE THOUGHT, BUT I THINK WE GOT BETTER QUALITY CANDIDATES, UM, ALL THE WAY AROUND BOTH OF THE OTHER COMPANIES.

SO, UM, GUYS WANNA I GO THROUGH WITH THESE, THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE SECTIONS WE CAN HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE SECURITY ACCOUNT WE USE.

YOU CAN ASK THEM ME NOW IF YOU WANT.

WHAT DOCUMENT DO YOU WANT OF THE EXECUTIVE THAT ONE, ONE ATTACHMENT ONE GO THROUGH? YEAH, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH EACH ONE.

AND ALSO WE HAVE PRESENT MISS BOATRIGHT AND MR. CAMPBELL, WE ARE PRESENT WITH US TODAY.

UH, MS. MURRAY AND MS. A WHO WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANT ROLES THAT THEY PLAY IN SAFETY AND SECURE AND WHAT THEY OKAY.

IS BULLYING COME TO THE TABLE.

I'LL, I'LL SIT THERE.

WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE, AND MR. GRISSOM, WOULD YOU PREFER QUESTIONS AS YOU GO OR QUESTIONS AT THE END? I, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

SO YOU GUYS, I PREFER QUESTIONS AS YOU GO.

OKAY, PERFECT.

AND I WANNA TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK MS. GRAHAM AND MS. MARIE FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK FOR OUR DISTRICT.

AND THANK YOU FOR BEING THIS TODAY.

WE KNOW YOU'RE, WE DON'T WANNA KEEP YOU WRONG AND THANK YOU.

SO THE, THE DISTRICT HAS DONE A BETTER JOB THIS YEAR, IN MY OPINION, OF, UM, DELEGATING SOME RULES THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN THE PAST.

UM, MS. RAM FOR THE BULLYING SECTION, MS. MURRAY FOR WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE GAGGLE.

UM, I THINK I'VE TOLD YOU GUYS IN THE PAST AND SOME DAYS I'D GET 15, 20 GAGGLE REPORTS EVERY SINGLE DAY AND INTO THE NIGHT.

NOW MS. MURRAY'S IN CHARGE OF THAT AND SHE'LL BE GOING OVER THAT SHORTLY HERE.

SO MS. GRAHAM, IF YOU WANNA DISCUSS ANY OF THE BULLYING THINGS WE DO FOR THE DISTRICT, UH, YES, OF COURSE.

UM, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'M A LITTLE BIT ON WEATHER.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO ON MY ROLE IS I WORK IN INJUNCTION WITH OUR SCHOOLS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN BULLYING REPORTS COME IN ON OUR SAY SOMETHING APP, THAT WE INVESTIGATE THOSE IN A TIMELY MANNER.

EVEN IF A STUDENT, UM, ADMITS OR OMITS ANY TYPE OF INFORMATION, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR SCHOOLS TO EARLY INVESTIGATE TO SEE IF THERE'S ACTUALLY BULLYING OCCURRING.

AND IF THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ASSIST THE STUDENT AND THEIR FAMILIES RESOURCES.

UM, THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER, UH, REPORTS THAT COME THROUGH.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME SAFETY REPORTS THAT COME THROUGH ABOUT WEAPONS SCHOOL.

SO THAT APP IS ACTUALLY VERY USEFUL FOR OUR STUDENTS AND OUR PARENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COMMUNICATE ANY TYPE OF BULLYING, HARASSMENT OR ANY TYPE OF OTHER STATE THAT COME IN.

UM, LET'S SEE, UH, ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR SCHOOL COUNSELORS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT, UM, RESOURCES FOR SCHOOLS AND GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO OUR STUDENTS REGARDING BULLYING.

JUST LAST WEEK, AND I WISH THAT YOU ALL COULD BEEN PRESENT, WE WENT OUT TO BEAUFORD HIGH SCHOOL AND WE WENT OVER TO RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY AND HILL HEAD MIDDLE, THE BEAUFORT COUNTY BEAUFORT HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS DID THEIR C SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING LATE MM-HMM.

.

SO THEY ACTUALLY PERFORMED THAT FOR OUR SIXTH GRADE MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY SUCCESSFUL.

THE ROTARY OF THE LOW COUNTRY CAME OUT AND THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE AS WELL AND PROVIDED INFORMATION REGARDING, AND THEY HAVE AN PROJECT THAT WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH THEM IN COLLABORATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT MESSAGE OUT TO OUR COMMUNITIES AS WELL.

TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT TRI COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT TAKES BULLYING VERY SERIOUSLY AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE ANTI-BULLYING MESSAGE OUT ALONG WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR BUSINESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR ENTIRE SAFE.

NOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE FOR ME TO ANSWER, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA OMIT ANYTHING, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BULL, JUST PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND MAYBE I CAN ANSWER THAT.

THOSE QUESTIONS USEFUL? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BULLYING THING.

I CAN'T, MS. FIT, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, NOT RIGHT NOW.

THANKS.

SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WITH THE BULLYING, I SEE THAT, UM, YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING WITH LOCATION OF INCIDENT NOT BEING AT THE SCHOOL.

YES MA'AM.

ARE THERE ANY PARAMETERS ABOUT HOW THIS GETS REPORTED OR IS THE SCHOOL NOW IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS 24 7? I MEAN, THAT, THAT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THAT? SO WHEN THE APP WAS CREATED, IT ACTUALLY, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAPPEN.

LIKE SOMETIMES KIDS AREN'T AS WILLING TO REPORT SOMETHING WHILE THEY'RE AT SCHOOL.

THEY MAY BE AT HOME AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS HAPPENED TODAY, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I REPORT IT.

SO IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY REPORTED THAT HAPPENED WHEN

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THEY'RE AT HOME.

MAYBE SOMEONE TEXTED SOMETHING TO THEM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL DAY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, AS WE ALL KNOW, IT ACTUALLY CARRIES OVER UNTIL THE SCHOOL DAY THE NEXT DAY A LOT OF TIMES.

SO A LOT OF TIMES SCHOOLS HAVE TO INVESTIGATE THOSE TYPE OF INCIDENCES THAT HAPPEN.

SO YEAH, THERE REALLY AREN'T ANY PARAMETERS REGARDING IT.

BUT IF IT COMES INTO OUR APP, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE REPORT IT BECAUSE AGAIN, A LOT OF TIMES IT CARRIES OVER TO THE SCHOOL, INTO THE SCHOOL TODAY, UNFORTUNATELY.

WELL, WHAT'S OUR INVESTIGATIVE, UM, AUTHORITY FOR THINGS THAT HAPPEN? I MEAN, CUZ I, WELL I'M WONDERING LIKE WHAT IF IT'S NOT ANOTHER BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT STUDENT OR, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S REPORTING COULD, COULD A KID WHO'S NOT A BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT REPORT A BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT STUDENT TO SEE SOMETHING? YOU KNOW WHAT I, WHAT I MEAN LIKE HOW DO WE INVESTIGATE THINGS OUTSIDE OF OUR, I MEAN I THINK THERE'S GOTTA BE AN A QUESTION OF JURISDICTION HERE, RIGHT? YES MA'AM.

AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

UM, RIGHT NOW THAT APP IS ON THE, THE DESKTOP OF ALL OF OUR STUDENT DEVICES.

UM, IT IS ALSO ON OUR DISTRICT WEBSITE.

WE HAVE NOT KNOCK ON WOOD, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY OR HAD AN INSTANCE WHERE WE HAD SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF OUR DISTRICT REPORT.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO AND DETERMINE IF THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO PUT IN PLACE.

THAT IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

I'VE ACTUALLY NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, THAT WE MAY WANNA LOOK AT.

TRYING TO SEE IF YOU CAN PUT SOME TYPE OF SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

WELL, I'M JUST THINKING IT FROM A PARENT PERSPECTIVE.

IF SOMEONE REPORTED MY CHILD AS BULLYING, YOU KNOW, ON A WEEKEND AT A SLEEP O OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT THE SCHOOL TO NECESSARILY TAKE A, A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN INVESTIGATING THAT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I JUST, THAT THAT, I DON'T KNOW, SEEMS LIKE IT'S A BRAVE NEW WORLD, I GUESS.

AND THAT IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

UM, A LOT OF TIMES THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN THERE IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ON THE WEEKEND OR THERE MAY BE A NEIGHBORHOOD PARTY THAT KIDS HAVE AND WE COMMUNICATE WITH OUR PARENTS TO MAKE THEM AWARE CUZ SCHOOLS COMMUNICATE WITH PARENTS TO SAY, HEY, JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THIS REPORT CAME IN.

AND THEY DO COMMUNICATE THAT INFORMATION TO PARENTS TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE UM, YES.

FINAL FOLLOW UP ON THIS, BECAUSE WHAT MAKES ME NERVOUS, I GUESS, IS THAT WHEN YOU START INVOLVING THE SCHOOL, YOU START INVOLVING LIKE THEIR RECORD.

SO IF YOU GUYS ARE GETTING THESE REPORTS FROM OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL HOURS, ET CETERA, AND THERE'S AN INVESTIGATE, HOW DOES THAT WORK IN TERMS OF THE STUDENT EDUCATIONAL RECORD? IS THERE SOME SORT OF DUE PROCESS THAT WOULD OCCUR BEFORE IT GOES INTO THE SCHOOL RECORD? I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD NECESSARILY GO INTO THE SCHOOL RECORD AT ALL.

OKAY.

I THINK ONCE THE SCHOOL GETS NOTIFIED, WHEN YOU SAY BULLYING, I MEAN THAT BULLYING COULD BE, I JUST GOT A GAGGLE WORK THAT TALKS ABOUT KILLING SOMEBODY.

SO SCHOOL WOULD'VE A DUTY TO REPORT IT TO THE SRO, THE POLICE OFFICER IN THE SCHOOL AT THAT POINT, IT'S UP TO THEM WHAT HAPPENS WITH IT.

BUT IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE RECORD THAT WE KEEP IT TO SCHOOL IF IT HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL ON A WEEKEND AT SOMEBODY'S HOUSE.

BUT WE DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO REPORT THAT, ESPECIALLY IF CERTAIN WORDS ARE USED WITH CERTAIN TERMINOLOGY.

YEAH.

CERTAIN KEY WORDS, A BUZZ WORDS ARE.

OKAY.

MR. SMITH HAS A UP.

MR. SMITH.

UM, MY FIRST, UH, QUESTION WILL BE, UM, WHAT DO THE, HAVE WE SPOKE WITH THE SHERIFF IN, IN REGARDING THIS APP PRIOR TO IT? PRIOR TO TODAY? TO THE SHERIFF? SIR? YES MA'AM.

YES.

YES.

HAVE WE SPOKE FIRST? GOT, YEAH, WE SPOKE WITH THE SHERIFF.

IT'S PROBABLY BEEN SEVERAL YEARS.

I, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW LONG AGO.

THREE OR FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO MAYBE.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

YEAH.

BUT YEAH, WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE MEETINGS WERE HAD WITH THE SHIRT AND MR. SMITH, YOU'RE YOU'RE DOING THAT ELECTRONIC VOICE THING MEETING RECENTLY AND I'M NOT SURE.

OKAY.

I SAID THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THAT IS BECAUSE I WAS IN A MEETING RECENTLY, UH, AND THE SHERIFF WAS SAYING SOMETHING, I THINK, I THINK ABOUT ONE OF THE APPS AND I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS THE APP THAT HE WAS TALKING.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE MESSAGE RECEIVED FROM, FROM I, IT MAY BE THIS APP HERE THAT HE, HE DIDN'T CONVEY THAT IT WAS AN APP THAT HE, UH, WAS ANSWER HIS QUESTION.

MR. MRT.

AND THAT'S YOUR QUESTION REAL QUICKLY, COULD YOU, COULD, YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS THE GAGGLE APP, WHICH WE'RE GONNA GO OVER IN A FEW MINUTES.

UM, THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT APP, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THAT IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.

YEAH.

IN FACT THAT'S NEXT.

YEAH.

AND, AND, AND WE MAY TO CALL IT AN APP.

WE MAY KIND OF BE OVER EXAGGERATING THE, THE POINT IT'S MORE OF A GOOGLE FORM.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH

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AN APP.

A GAGGLE IS MORE OF AN APP.

UM, THIS IS A FORM THAT THE DISTRICT CREATED.

SO IT'S MORE OF AN IN-HOUSE FORM THAT'S CREATED BASICALLY A GOOGLE FORM, BUT WE CALL IT AN APP BECAUSE IT IS AN ICON ON THE DESKTOP.

SO IT'S NOT AN APP PER SE THAT'S MONITORED BY A COMPANY, IT IS JUST A GOOGLE FORM THAT WE THE DISTRICT CREATED.

YES.

UM, BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT, SO BEFORE WE GO INTO THE, AND MR. SMITH, JUST WAIT A MINUTE.

LOOK, WE NEED TO GET YOU TO A BETTER LOCATION.

GO AHEAD MS. FEDRICK.

UM, THANK YOU.

SO JUST LOOKING AT THE CHART THAT'S ON DISPLAY RIGHT NOW AND LOOKING AT THE, UH, BASICALLY 1400 RESPONSES THAT WE'RE IN, SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, RIGHT? YOU'LL BETWEEN AUGUST AND NOW, IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM.

, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS, RIGHT? IT SAYS AUGUST 15TH TO NOVEMBER 14TH.

YES MA'AM.

YES MA'AM.

SO YOU, YOU CAN SEE FROM THERE THAT IT'S UM, THERE'S A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT FROM ONE PARTICULAR SCHOOL.

YES MA'AM.

SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW, WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU? HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THAT OR WHAT, WHAT KIND OF ACTION DOES THAT PROMPT YOU TO MEET OR WANT TO DO? SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING MORE TRAINING AND SERVICES REGARDING UH, NCSS PROCESSES WITHIN THOSE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE LARGE NUMBERS OF REPORTS.

BUT YOU DO HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT A LOT OF THE REPORTS COULD BE SOMETHING SIMPLE AS SOMETIMES KIDS UNFORTUNATELY MISUSE THE APP, UM, THE FORM.

AND IT COULD BE I LEFT MY PAPER AT HOME, I'M JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU AN EXAMPLE.

BUT, BUT IT STILL SHOWS UP FOR THAT SCHOOL.

SO YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL.

A LOT OF THOSE REPORTS THAT ARE IN THERE COULD BE SOMETHING, AND I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE APP AS WELL, SOME OF THE REPORTS AREN'T NECESSARILY WHAT WE CONSIDERED ISSUES OF BULLYING, BUT KIDS SOMETIMES PUT THINGS IN THERE.

WE ALSO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPER USE OF THE APP ON THE FORM AS WELL.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS AS WELL THAT GETS ADDRESSED HERE.

RIGHT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE I MEAN THAT'S K EIGHT, IT'S ONE OF OUR K EIGHT, BUT THEN ALSO YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER K EIGHT S AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT SENSE TYPE OF HONORANCE OF USE.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT UH, A LOT OF THE TIMES THAT THE REPORTS ARE PRIMARILY IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, GRADES SIX THROUGH EIGHT VERSUS THE ELEMENTARY GRADES.

BUT YEAH, THAT I NOTICED THAT THERE IS ONE SCHOOL THAT SEEMS TO HAVE MORE REPORTS THAN OTHER SCHOOLS, BUT SOME OF THE REPORTS ARE REALLY, I DON'T WANNA SAY UNFOUNDED, BUT SOME OF THEM ARE INCOMPLETE.

YES, SURE.

SOMETIMES IT'S HOMEWORK, BE HONEST WITH YOU, HOMEWORK ASSIGN, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT'LL JUST GET TO SCHOOL AND THAT WON'T HAVE THE, ANY OF NOTHING IN THE BODY OF IT.

IT STILL COUNTS.

YEAH.

IN TERMS OF, SO CAN YOU BREAK THAT OUT TO, UM, YOUR LOWER AND MIDDLE GRADES TO DOESN'T DOES WAY WE CAN YES, MA'AM.

I MEAN THAT MIGHT BE VERY INTERESTING CUZ THEN YOU, YOU WOULD SAY YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT IS GROUPED WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

YES MA'AM.

OTHERWISE, UM, SO OKAY.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING I GUESS DEEP THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT IN THOSE NUMBERS.

I MEAN WHAT RACE THEY ARE, WHAT THE ECONOMIC BACKGROUND CETERA, ET CETERA.

AND I DUNNO, THAT MIGHT NOT BE, IT WAS ALONE MAYBE OR SOMETHING OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE DISTRICT, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE GONNA DO THINGS TO THAT RIGHT.

COMPLAIN AND SPEAK TO ENGLISH TO THE POINT THINK THE CONCERN SHOULD BE IF OUR KIDS ARE BEING BULLIED AND IF THEY'RE THE ONE'S MAKING THE REPORT, WHETHER SOMEONE OUTSIDE IS DOING THE BULLYING OR NOT.

BUT IF, IF OUR KIDS ARE BEING BULLIED, THEN THAT'S WHERE OUR RESPONSE SHOULD BE.

YES, SIR.

YEAH, THAT'S, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, HE FORM NOT INFORMATION.

IT DOESN'T LIKE, UH, I GUESS GENDER AND ETHNICITY, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T ASK FOR THAT INFORMATION AT ALL.

SO THAT, I DON'T MEAN TO KNOW W***E, OF COURSE, KNOW THE, OF THE SCHOOL COMPARATIVELY SPEAKING.

HELLO? WHAT WAS SMALL? WHAT'S THAT? UH, HOW SMALL INTERNATIONAL YES.

WHAT DOES THAT MAKE UP LOOK LIKE AND HOW DO THEY COMPARE WITH THE OTHER SCHOOLS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO DOES NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF SIGNIFICANT NUMBER AND, YOU KNOW YEAH.

THAT, THAT MIGHT GIVE US SOME INDICATORS THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO IN TERMS OF I AGREE, THE DEMOGRAPHIC, THE CULTURE CAN BE VERY IMPORTANT.

YEAH.

THE CULTURE OF THE SCHOOL IS IMPACTED BY BULLY.

YES.

MR. SMITH STILL.

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YEAH.

SO WILLIAM, UH, YES, ALSO, UH, AND JUST TO ACTUALLY TO SPEAK TO THAT, UH, I HAVE HAD SEVERAL PARENTS AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL, UH, CONCERNS IN TERMS OF BULLYING COMING FROM THAT SCHOOL.

SO I DO, I DO, I DO FEEL THAT THAT NUMBER IS ACCURATE BECAUSE I HAVE HAD A LOT OF, LIKE, A LOT OF, UH, PEOPLE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT WITH CONCERNS FROM THAT SCHOOL.

SO I, I WON'T, I WILL NOT SAY THAT THOSE NUMBERS AREN'T SOMEWHERE THEY'RE PROPERLY ACCURATE.

SO THAT IS, THAT IS, THAT IS, UH, I DO AGREE THAT THAT IS A CONCERN.

AND I, I THINK THAT THE QUESTION IS NOT IS WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, WHY, AND HOW IN WHAT? THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT ARE WE DOING IN TERMS OF REDUCING THOSE NUMBERS AND HOW ARE WE RESPONDING TO THAT SCHOOL IN TERMS OF, OF, UM, WELL WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, NOT JUST WHAT'S THE RECOURSE, BUT WHAT SERVICES ARE WE PROVIDING TO, UH, THE LEADERSHIP AT THAT SCHOOL TO REDUCE THOSE NUMBERS? YES SIR.

SORRY.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP MR. SMITH.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING, UM, OUR STUDENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, DR.

SKAS HAS BEEN GOING OVER AND WORKING WITH THE LEADERSHIP AT THAT SCHOOL AS WELL AND WORKING WITH THEM AND TRAINING THEM ON SOME OF THE MTSS STRATEGIES TO KINDA, UH, DEAL WITH NOT ONLY BULLYING BUT SOME TYPE OF SOFT SKILLS AND OTHER SKILLS THAT YOU CAN PUT IN PLACE TO HELP STUDENTS.

SO THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON AS WELL.

SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING AS A DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT THEM IN WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AT THE SCHOOL.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE VERY RESPONSIVE, UH, VERY QUICK TO RESPOND TO THE REPORTS WHEN THEY'RE SENT OVER.

THEY, UM, PROVIDE US WITH A DETAIL UPDATE AS TO WHAT WAS INVESTIGATED AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WERE FROM THE SCHOOL STANDPOINT.

YES.

OKAY.

THE NEXT, UH, ATTACHMENT THREE, IT'S GONNA BE GAGGLE REPORTS.

MS. MURRAY'S GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.

BUT JUST, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHILE I'M SITTING HERE, AND MS. MURRAY'S GONNA EXPLAIN THE PROCESS IN A SECOND HERE, WE GOT A GAGGLE REPORT, STRANGELY ENOUGH FROM ROBERT SMALLS THAT USES KEYWORDS LIKE GOING TO KILL AND KILL ME.

THESE TYPE OF THINGS COME IN ALL DAY LONG, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I MEAN 10 TO 15 PER DAY THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.

AND THIS BERRY WILL EXPLAIN THE, TO YOU WHAT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THESE GAGGLES, SORRY.

AND, UH, GAGGLE IS ACTUALLY, UH, A SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT IT DOES IS PICK OUT KEYWORDS SUCH AS KILL ME, KILL MYSELF, UM, BEAT UP, UH, THREATEN, THEY'RE JUST A BUZZWORD THAT GAGGLE AUTOMATICALLY PICKS UP.

IT THEN SENDS OUT, UM, PITTSBURGH PICKS UP FROM WHERE, FROM KIDS' COMPUTERS, ANYTIME THEY TYPE ANYTHING ON THEIR COMPUTER.

BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT OUR STUDENTS DO IS THEY MESSAGE, UM, TO ONE ANOTHER WHILE THEY'RE IN CLASS, WHICH THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO, BUT IT HAPPENS.

AND IF SOME BUZZWORD KILL, KILL MYSELF, KMS, UM, THREATENING SOMEONE ELSE DOCUMENT.

NO, NO, NO.

IT PICKS UP AS LONG AS THEY'RE TYPING ON THEIR COMPUTER, THIS SOFTWARE PICKS IT UP.

AND THEN WHAT IT DOES IS SEND A, UH, EMAIL AND A MESSAGE.

UH, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS.

WE HAVE A QUESTIONABLE CONTENT, WHICH MAY BE JUST SOMETIMES IT'S, UM, AN ESSAY, UH, THAT'S THAT THEY MAY BE WRITING.

BUT WHAT, WELL, I MET WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS CAUSE IT'S USUALLY THE HIGH SCHOOL IN ON OUR CHART.

YOU'LL SEE THAT MAY RIVER IS DISPROPORTIONATELY REPRESENTED.

WELL THAT'S WHY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN ENGLISH ASSIGNMENT THAT'S AN ESSAY.

SO I MET WITH PRINCIPAL AND UH, SCHOOL COUNSELORS AND WHEN THEY PUT, WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IS PUT IN THEIR SUBJECT LINE, UH, ENGLISH ESSAY OR COLLEGE ESSAY, UM, TO ALERT ME WHEN I SEE IT, TO KNOW THAT IT'S AN ESSAY.

AND THEN I DON'T, WE WE, I JUST GO IN AND ACTUALLY PUT THAT AND THEY STILL SEND ME, WHAT HAPPENS IS I GET A NOTIFICATION, IT GOES TO ALL THE PRINCIPALS IN THE BUILDINGS, SOME ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS, BUT ALWAYS SCHOOL COUNSELING AND SCHOOL SOCIAL WORKERS SO THAT THE SCHOOL COUNSELOR OR SCHOOL SOCIAL WORKER OR ADMIN, THERE'S SOME BEHAVIOR MANAGEMENT SPECIALTY ON THERE AS WELL.

WHOEVER GETS THE LEARNING CAN GET TO THE STUDENT FIRST TO MEET WITH THEM, MEETS WITH THEM.

THEN THEY EMAIL BACK TO ME THAT WE'VE MET WITH THIS STUDENT, THIS WAS AN ESSAY.

AND I SAID, YEAH, I KNOW CUZ IT WAS IN THE LINE.

UM, AND OR

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THEY SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T MEAN TO, CAUSE SOMETIMES KIDS TYPE IN THINGS AND THEY REALLY DON'T MEAN TO USE THOSE WORDS.

AND SOMETIMES LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DO IT, BUT SOMETIMES WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GET CALLED INTO THE OFFICES, THEY'RE LIKE, WOW.

YOU KNOW, SO, UM, THEY GET, THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT THOSE WORDS ARE GONNA SET OFF A REACTION.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, BUT WHAT HAPPENS, THE NOTIFICATION IS SENT OUT, I THEN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT NOTIFICATION AND UM, ASK FOR AN UPDATE TO BE PROVIDED.

UH, SO THAT'S HOW WE HANDLE IT FOR NOW.

BUT I JUST GOT THROUGH DOING SOME TRAINING AND WHAT THE SCHOOLS WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DO ONCE I'VE MET WITH THEM IS THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CLICK ON THE LINK THEMSELVES AND PUT WHAT THEY EMAILED TO ME IN AND THEN THAT WILL COME, THAT ALERT WILL COME BACK TO YOU AND I CAN GO IN AND CLICK RESOLVE.

OKAY.

SO, UM, YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO CUT DOWN ON THE BACK AND FORTH EMAILING.

SO ALL THEY'LL HAVE TO DO IS JUST CLICK ON THE LINK ITSELF, PUT IN WHAT THEY'LL DID AND IT'LL BE RESOLVED.

AND THEN I SEE EVERYTHING, LIKE DAVE SAID, UM, EVEN OVER THE HOLIDAY LAST WEEK, I LITERALLY HAD TO CHECK GAGGLES BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE PERSON HERE AT THE DISTRICT WHO IS ABLE TO BE REACHED 24 7 365.

AND THAT'S ME.

SO I HAD TO KEEP TRACK OF GAGGLES THAT CAME IN EVEN THROUGH LAST WEEK.

BUT WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON, BECAUSE THIS YEAR WE PURCHASED GAGGLE AFTER HOURS SO THAT WE CAN WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH DISPATCH WITH THE EMERGENCY DISPATCH SO THAT OFFICERS CAN GO OUT WHEN THEY LEAVE, WHEN WE RECEIVE THEIR GAGGLE.

SPEAKING OF SUICIDE OR WANTING TO HURT TO HARM SOMEONE THEMSELVES.

UM, SO THAT THE OFFICES CAN GO OUT.

RIGHT NOW, IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GET A DEDICATED EMAIL IN PLACE THAT CAN DISTRIBUTE TO THE DISPATCHERS SO THAT THEY CAN SEND LAW ENFORCEMENT OUT, BE IT BEEF COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR BLUFFTON POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UH, BUT WE HAVE BEEN IN TALKS WITH THEM AND WE ARE JUST WAITING.

I EMAIL HIM EVERY WEEK TO FOLLOW UP ON IT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, UH, GAGGLE AFTER HOURS CONSISTENT, ME AND THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOL COUNSELING.

SO SHE'S MY BACKUP PERSON.

SO, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE SOMEONE, CAUSE THEY AUTOMATICALLY, IF THEY DON'T RECEIVE A RESPONSE, THEY TEXT AND IF THEY DON'T RECEIVE A RESPONSE THAT IT WAS RECEIVED, THEN THEY CALL.

SO, I MEAN, I'VE GOTTEN CALLS 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, TWO IN THE MORNING MM-HMM.

, UM, JUST TO LET THEM GO.

YES, I HAVE IT.

I WILL GET, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON SUNDAYS, I'VE BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH APS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET, UH, OFFICER OUT TO A HOME BECAUSE OF WHAT CAME THROUGH ORGANIC.

SO BASICALLY I MONITOR IT ALL DAY LONG EVERY DAY UNTIL WE CAN GET YEAH.

GO AFTER HOURS IN PLACE.

AND EVEN THEN I WILL STILL BE THE PERSON TO CONTACT IN CASE IT GOES THROUGH DISPATCH AND THEY CAN'T GET THE BASIC DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION.

I STILL HAVE TO BE THERE TO, TO TALK WITH THEM IN CASE THAT HAPPENS.

SO, UM, I HAVE A, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SO MUCH A QUE I MEAN, IT'S A QUESTION, BUT IT'S KIND OF A LARGE PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF BECAUSE I THINK THAT SECURITY IN THE SCHOOLS IS REALLY A BALANCING ACT, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN DISCIPLINE AND SECURITY AND I, THIS, THIS GAGGLE THING, I KIND OF LIKE IT.

I ALSO GET CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE SORT OF SURVEILLANCE, UH, 24 7.

UM, OBVIOUSLY IF A KID IS TALKING ABOUT SUICIDE, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

BUT I KNOW MY KID, I'VE TOLD THIS STORY BEFORE, WAS JOKING ABOUT A PROJECT THEY WERE WORKING ON AND HE SAID JOKINGLY, OH, PLEASE STOP BULLYING ME.

AND I MEAN, IT WAS ALL HANDS ON DECK THERE AT THE, I GOT CALL, WE GOTTA COME IN, YOU TALK TO KID ABOUT.

AND SO I, I'M ASSUMING THAT, UM, WITH THIS AFTER HOURS THAT YOU KIND OF TURN UP THE THRESHOLD, MS. BOATRIGHT AFTER HOURS FOR THE PSS.

AND WHEN I SAY PSS, THAT'S THE, IT'S CALLED A POSSIBLE STUDENT SITUATION.

AND THAT'S IN THE EVENT THAT A STUDENT IS TALKING ABOUT HARMING THEMSELVES, HARMING SOMEONE ELSE.

UM, SO IT ACTUALLY, IT COMES IN RED WITH A BIG LARGE EXCLAMATION GOING ON IT.

SO WE ALWAYS KNOW WHEN WE GET THOSE THAT WE DID, WE ACT ON ALL OF THEM.

BUT THOSE SUPERSEDE EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE WANNA ENSURE THAT IF A CHILD IS FEELING, YOU KNOW, HAVING, UH, SUICIDAL IDEATION OR, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO HURT OR HARM OTHERS, THAT WE ACT UPON THAT.

AND THOSE ARE THE, UH, ALERTS IN WHICH, UH, THEY WOULD CONTACT ME ABOUT.

OKAY.

SO LET ME JUST, UH, I THINK THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND IS I GIVE YOU LIKE A POTENTIAL SCENARIO AND YOU TELL ME WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ON YOUR END.

SO MY KID NOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING, MY KIDS ON HIS OWN DEVICE, BUT LET'S SAY FOR SOME REASON HE IS WORKING ON A PROJECT AND HE SAYS SOMETHING LIKE, OH MY GOSH, THIS IS KILLING ME.

OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, THERE'S A LOT OF SLANG KILL ME NOW.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

I CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE TO WRITE THIS ESSAYS DUE AT MIDNIGHT.

UM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU GET

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SORT OF AN ALERT.

YES, I WOULD, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A PSS ALERT, IT WOULD BE A QC ALERT AND QC MEANING QUESTIONABLE CONTENT.

SO EVERYTHING DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY ESCALATE TO THE RED.

SO WHO DECIDES WHAT'S QUESTIONABLE CONTENT AND WHAT'S PSS DOES THE SOFTWARE THE SOFTWARE, YES.

OKAY.

I MEAN, I, I'M, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN UNFAIRLY HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT OF SECURITY ISSUES.

AND SO I, YOU KNOW, IT'S TOUGH.

IT'S JUST, IT'S ALSO IN, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT A HUNDRED PERCENT SAFE.

I MEAN, THESE ARE TEENAGERS AND MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS AND THEY'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, BE ROUGH ON EACH OTHER AND WHATNOT.

IT'S JUST TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE BECAUSE AS A PARENT, I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AT MY DOOR CAUSE MY KID MADE A BAD JOKE OR SENT OUT A BAD MEME.

IT, IT DOES MAKE ME FEEL A LITTLE FUNNY.

NO, ONLY, ONLY IF IT'S, LIKE I SAID, ANYTHING DEALING WITH SUICIDAL IDEATIONS OR WANTING TO HURT OR HARM SOMEONE ELSE, UM, THAT'S THE ON THOSE ARE THE RED FLAG ONES.

IF YOU AS DETERMINED BY GETTING, IF I COULD PUT IT IN COLOR, THOSE ARE RED AND THE QUESTIONABLE CONTENTS ARE ORANGE.

SO THAT HELPS.

IF THAT HELPS.

YEAH.

AND WE DO GET A LOT OF QUESTIONABLE CONTENT AND YES, WE DO FOLLOW UP WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE AND DAVE IS CORRECT, HE GETS THEM.

HOWEVER, WHEN I PUSH OUT, I PUSH OUT ACCORDING TO WHO NEEDS TO GET IT.

CAUSE I THINK QUESTIONABLE CONTENT WOULD BE A GREAT NAME FOR A MOVIE ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

I MEAN THAT IS JUST, JUST ALL 90% OF WHAT THEY DO IS QUESTIONABLE CONTENT THAT'S GONNA, IT'S JUST, IT'S A LOT TO SORT OF KEEP TRACK OF.

SO, UM, AND MY OTHER QUESTION, WHICH KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH THIS, MS. GRAHAM, YOU ARE THE ADMINISTRATOR OF STUDENT SUCCESS AND IS IT, AM I CORRECT THAT DEREK SKAGGS IS THE DIRECTOR OF STUDENT SUCCESS? YES MA'AM.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

AND THAT IS KIND OF A EUPHEMISM FOR DISCIPLINE.

IS THAT, I MEAN, WHAT'S STUDENT SUCCESS IS OBVIOUSLY KIND OF A, A NICE WAY OF SAYING IS THIS DISCIPLINE SECURITY OR KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH? UM, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF THE TWO THAT IT KIND OF CROSSES OVER.

OKAY.

YES MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND ALSO, JUST A LAST MINUTE COMMENT WITH GAGGLE, WE ALSO GET HARASSMENT AND BULLYING THROUGH THERE TOO.

UM, SO THEY KIND OF OVERLAP.

THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER WAY FOR STUDENTS TO REPORT, UM, IF THEY'RE BEING BULLIED OR IF THEY'RE BEING THREATENED.

UH, WE ALSO GET THAT AS WELL.

AND I ALWAYS INCLUDE MS. GRAHAM IN THOSE NOTIFICATIONS.

WELL, HOW LONG WE BEEN DOING THIS? YEAH, WE'VE BEEN DOING GAGGLE I THINK THIS IS OUR THIRD YEAR, THIRD OR FOURTH YEAR.

AND, BUT WE JUST IMPLEMENTED THE GAGGLE AFTER HOURS THIS YEAR.

YEAH.

SO WHAT KIND OF STATISTICS DO WE HAVE? TELL US, WELL, ANYTHING AT ALL.

WELL, FROM JULY 1ST TO NOVEMBER 13TH OF THIS YEAR, WE HAVE HAD 30,665 ITEMS TO REVIEW.

UM, AND THAT CONSTITUTE GAGGLE SPENDING 263.2 HOURS REVIEWING THEM.

UM, WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN INTO THE INCIDENT BY DAY OF THE WEEK AND TYPE INCIDENT BY TIME OF THE DAY AND TYPE.

UM, WE HAVE THE INCIDENTS BY CATEGORIES.

IT, IT BREAKS IT COMPLETELY.

AND I KNOW YOU GOT THAT, BUT I MEAN, WHAT HAS IT DONE FOR US? WHAT IT HAS DONE FOR US DISTRICT AS WHAT SITE HAS A, ETCETERA, ET CETERA.

WHY ARE YOU DOING IT? SOME OF THE STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE COME IN CONTACT WITH, WITH SOME OF THE GS HAVE BEEN HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE REFERRED TO WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

THEY'VE BEEN REFERRED TO MENTAL HEALTH, UM, GETTING ANY TYPE OF WRAPAROUND SERVICE THAT THEY NEED AND ALSO CONNECTING THE FAMILY.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT YES SIR.

I THOSE NUMBERS.

YES SIR.

CORRESPOND THROUGH REAL ABSOLUTELY REAL ACTION THAT CAN, IT HELPS US WITH AND EVEN UH, WHEN WE GET VAPING, CUZ A LOT OF KIDS GO IN HERE AND THEY THEN THEY TELL ABOUT STUDENTS IN RESTROOMS VAPING.

SO THAT IN TURN TURNS INTO A REFERRAL TO THEY GET THIS WAY.

MM-HMM.

AND ALSO A REFERRAL, BUT, UM, COUNTY ALCOHOLIC DRUG ABUSE DEPARTMENT.

SO IT DOES REACH OUT AND PROVIDE THOSE WRAP AROUND SERVICES FOR WHATEVER YOU ENCOUNT.

I DO HAVE RECORDING OF INCIDENTS, REPEAT DISCIPLINE.

YES.

REPEATING.

AND EVEN IF THEY DO A SELF HARM AND THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT SUICIDE, WE HAVE THE THREAT ASSESSMENT OR THE SUICIDE ASSESSMENT AND WE CAN, WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE AT ANY TIME.

WE CAN PULL THEM.

LIAM, SAM UP.

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THANK GOODNESS YOU HMM.

UNMUTE.

SORRY, I COULD NOT UNMUTE MR. SMITH.

SORRY, GO AHEAD.

IS HE STILL THERE? LOOKS LIKE IT.

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THEM AGAIN.

I KNOW MR. SMITH, UM, YOUR VOICE HAS THAT VERY DRAWN OUT ELECTRONIC SOUND AND IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND.

IF YOU WANT, WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU OR IF YOU WANNA PUT YOUR QUESTION IN THE CHAT THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, WORK AS WELL.

CAUSE CAN'T UNDERSTAND ONE.

I'M HERE.

OKAY.

NOW WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YEAH, LET'S GIVE IT ANOTHER QUICK TRY.

NO PROBLEM.

WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN THAT MR. CAMPBELL HAD IN TERMS OF SOME OF THIS SERVICE.

I'M WONDERING, ARE WE, ONE OF MY CONCERNS ARE WE OURSELVES, I WON'T SAY TOO THIN, BUT ALSO ARE WE MAKING OURSELVES LIABLE FOR OTHER, OTHER, UH, LITIGATION AS WELL IN OFFERING SOME OF THESE SERVICES? AND YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M JUST, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT, THAT WE, THAT WE, THAT WE MAY HAVE A LOT GOING ON WITH SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE OFFERING.

I MEAN, I, I, I THINK YOU LOOK AT TOO, WITHIN THE, THE DISTRICTS BEST INTEREST.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND QUESTION.

JUST I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION OR STATEMENT.

MAYBE I, IF I MAY, I THINK HE'S ASKING THAT ARE WE OPEN OURSELVES UP TO ANY LIABILITY BY THE FACT THAT ONCE WE FIND OUT ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS THROUGH GA, IF, YOU KNOW, COULD LEAD IT TO SOME TYPE OF LIABILITY? MR. WE KNOW, I MEAN, MEAN WE HAVE THE DUTY TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE AND WE'RE MANDATORY REPORTERS.

SO WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT THEM AND TO ALSO TO WORK WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND GIVE THEM WHATEVER SERVICES ARE NEEDED SO THAT THEY CAN BE SUCCESSFUL.

WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY, THEY CAN SUICIDE ATTEMPT.

WE WANNA PREVENT WHEN SOMEONE GETS TO THAT POINT THERE THAT DESPERATE, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE WHAT'S HAPPENED IN OUR WORLD, BUT THAT IS A PRESENT DANGER.

TEENAGERS NEED TO ADDRESS IT IS HOW, AS ITS, AND I DO AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

HOWEVER, JUST WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH EVEN WITH THESE GROUPS, THE MOM WITH LIBERTIES AND JUST ALL THESE GROUPS THAT ARE GOING ON NOW AND THINGS HAPPENING AFTER THAT MAYBE DONE AT HOME, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE IF THESE PARENTS MAY SEEN THIS UPON THEIR RIGHTS.

WELL, YEAH, WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT, UH, ONE OF THE BOARD, SOMEONE JUST SAID THAT THEY WOULD WANT A DEPUTY COMING INTO HOUSE OVER THE WEEKEND IF THERE'S SOME MISSING SUCCESS.

THE ONLY THING I COULD ANSWER MR. SMITH, IS WHEN IT, WHEN IT HAS HAPPENED, THE PARENT HAD ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

IT HAS HAPPENED A COUPLE TIMES DUE TO WHAT WAS PUT TOGETHER.

WE HAD TO, UH, SEND OFFICERS OUT AND UM, I BELIEVE ONE PARENT WAS A LITTLE UPSET AT FIRST, BUT ONCE SHE FOUND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, UM, SHE WAS GLAD TO HAVE KNOWN THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH HER STUDENT.

OKAY.

OUR RESPONSIBILITY ON THE OTHER SIDE, I MEAN, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE SOMETHING SLIP UP BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND SOMETHING HAPPENED, MIND THAT PARENT BEING UPSET AND FINDING OUT WHAT REALLY WENT ON.

BUT IF WE DON'T ALERT THAT PARENT THAT THIS HAPPENED AND SOMETHING REALLY DOES, THEN WE'LL BE FOR.

SO YEAH, WE, WE, YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE CAN ALLOW CERTAIN POCKETS TO DECIDE WHETHER IS SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN.

OKAY.

WELL I THINK THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT, UM, AND GIVEN FEEDBACK, SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO, IS THAT ALL FOR GAGGLE OR DID YOU HAVE MORE FOR GAGGLE? UH, NO, I DID PROVIDE THE, UM, THE REPORTS.

OKAY.

AND I DID GIVE THEM MONTHLY.

UH, SO AT ANY TIME IF ANYONE WANTS THEM, I DID GET THEM.

UH, BUT I, I PROVIDED EVERYTHING IN THE BOARD DOCS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THAT

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WAS, THAT WAS DEFINITELY INTERESTING.

INTERESTING.

OKAY, SO WE'RE ONTO FOUR, RIGHT? MR. GRHAM? YEAH.

UM, ACTUALLY NUMBER, WE'RE GONNA GO ON.

NUMBER FIVE, GET TOUCHED ABOUT FOUR.

WE'D LIKE TO ANSWER THAT, BUT, WE'LL, FOR NOW, NO, I THINK I WAS JUST TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THE, THERE'S A LOT OF ATTACHMENTS.

YEAH KNOW.

SO, UM, AN ATTACHMENT FIVE IS PRETTY MUCH THINGS THAT I PRESENT TO YOU GUYS EVERY YEAR.

MY MANDATORY CAREER TRAINING AND THE DAY SCHOOLS HAVE DONE THEM, UM, AGAIN, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO TWO TRAININGS, UM, PER YEAR WITH PRAISE WITH THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

THE LOCKDOWNS ARE THE SAME THREE LOCKDOWNS PER YEAR.

UM, ONE OF WHICH WILL OCCUR LIKE AT LUNCH OR DURING A PASSING PERIOD.

UM, ALSO I SUPPLY THE, UH, THE, UH, PROPER PROCEDURE FOR A CANINE SEARCH.

THE FORM WE'RE USING, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FILLS OUT FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE'VE COMPLETED ALL OF OUR CANINE SEARCHES, BUT TWO, THOSE ARE SCHEDULED.

ONE FOR THIS WEDNESDAY AND ONE FOR DECEMBER 7TH.

I BELIEVE THAT WILL COMPLETE ALL THE MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CANINE SEARCH.

I WOULDN'T THINK YOU GUYS WOULD'VE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DRILLS? IT'S THE SAME THING WE DO EVERY YEAR.

NOPE.

I, I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS UP.

SO WE CAN KEEP MOVING.

CAN I JUST ASK ONE QUESTION? SORRY.

SO, UM, MR. GROSS, DO WE, UM, WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, RIVERVIEW? UM, AS FAR AS, DO THEY HAVE TO REPORT TO YOU THAT THEY HAVE, UM, COMPLIED WITH THE LOCKDOWN, UM, REQUIREMENTS AND SO ON? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I DIDN'T PUT TRACK OF THEM.

OKAY.

DR.

RODRIGUEZ DID APPROACH ME LAST WEEK AND HIM, AND I SAID WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT RIVERVIEW.

YEAH.

BUT, UM, WE'LL PROBABLY DO THAT ONE DAY THIS WEEK.

BUT AS OF SO FAR, I'VE NEVER KEPT TRACK OF ANYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE.

WELL AND I KNOW, I MEAN, THEY'RE SEPARATE ENTITY WITH THEIR OWN BOARD AND STUFF, BUT IT JUST, I'M JUST WONDERING, I WAS THINKING ABOUT ALL OUR SCHOOLS HERE, UM, AND WHAT YOU PROVIDED US.

SO I ALSO HAD A QUESTION THEN.

SO WHAT OUR ECCS HAVE TO DO, SAME ONE RIGHT HERE.

SO THEY HAVE THE EXACT SAME, SAME REQUIREMENTS, ION REQUIREMENTS.

SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY THOUGHT IS THAT, AND MAYBE IN THE ANNUAL REPORT OF GROUP REVIEW, MAYBE THEY GIVE THAT TO US.

THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THOSE TAKE PLACE.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IMPORTANT THAT TO, SO I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR DR.

RODRIGUEZ.

THEY DID MENTION TO ME THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT SOMETHING OUT TO THEM AND OFFER MY SERVICES FOR, FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DO THAT A WAY, IT'S UP TO THEM.

BUT WE'RE GONNA OFFER THE SAME TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE DO FOR ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS TO THEM.

OKAY.

WE JUST, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA OCCUR ONE DAY THIS WEEK.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

FRIGHT.

THE NEXT ATTACHMENT IS SIX AND I DON'T KNOW IF ROBERT WANTS TO TALK ON THAT OR WE CAN'T TALK ON THAT.

THE FIRE SAFETY PROGRAM FOR BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOLS.

WELL, I TAP THE, WHEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

NO, THAT WE PRESENTED THAT TO YOU ALL THE SUMMER THAT, THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S A NEW REQUIREMENT WE DID THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME.

AND, AND SO WE'RE, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT AND WE HAD OUR ATTACHMENTS UNDER THE, SO WE'RE DOING ALL THE INSPECTIONS AND TESTING THAT HAD TO BE DONE.

SO, AND WE SUBMITTED THAT TO THE DEPARTMENT.

THAT, RIGHT.

SO, SO YOU'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH ALL THAT.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE, ATTACHMENT SEVEN, THIS IS JERRY HENDERSON WAS GONNA BE HERE, BUT SHE COULDN'T MAKE IT.

BUT THIS SHE'S BEEN DOING AROUND EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL AND DOING HER SAFETY PRESENTATION.

AND DURING THAT PRESENTATION, SHE GOES OVER ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE ENTIRE STAFF.

YOU GUYS TO GO THROUGH THAT.

YEAH, SHE IS, I THINK SHE'S MET WITH EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL, BUT ONE UP TO THIS POINT.

SO SHE NEEDS TO MEET WITH.

SHE NORMALLY GOES THERE.

THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 10 MEMBERS OF, WITH THEIR SAFETY TEAM.

THEY'RE ALL THERE.

THERE'S NORMALLY ABOUT A TWO HOUR MEETING SOMETIMES WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT.

UM, IF I'M AVAILABLE, I GO TO THE SCHOOL JUST, AND SHE'S DOING THAT.

I WALK THROUGH THE SCHOOL AND DO MY SAFETY AUDIT, CHECKING DOORS AND DOING DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND THEN I COME BACK TO THAT MEETING AND REPORT TO HER AND THE STAFF WHAT I FOUND AT THEIR PARTICULAR SCHOOL.

AND WE GO OVER THOSE ITEMS. SO AGAIN, WE'VE DONE EVERY SCHOOL WITH ONE, I BELIEVE THE, UH, THE SECOND HALF OF THE YEAR.

UM, AFTER CHRISTMAS, WE'RE GONNA START DOING TABLETOP EXERCISES WITH EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL IN REGARDS TO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

THOSE WILL PROBABLY START SOMETIME IN JANUARY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS DOWN THERE? MISS FIT? UM, SO DAVE, COULD YOU JUST SHARE HOW, UM, THE, THE LESSONS THAT WE LEARNED FROM BUFORD HIGH SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, LOGGED OUT, HOW HAS THAT BEEN SHARED WITH OTHER SCHOOLS? CAUSE OBVIOUSLY, I THINK WITH THE RECOVERY AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING GONE THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS WOULD BE MET ALL THE WAY THROUGH RIGHT, RIGHT.

THROUGH REUNIFICATION.

RIGHT.

THAT'S THE WORD.

REUNIFICATION.

SO WHAT IS THE PLAN OR HOW IS SOME OF THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THAT INCIDENT GOING TO BE SENT OUT TO THE OTHER SCHOOLS? WOW, THERE, THERE'S SO MUCH TO UNPACK THERE.

I I, I WOULD SAY THE, UH, THE BIGGEST THING THAT I LEARNED, AND MAYBE EVEN THE, UH, SENIOR STAFF HERE, WAS TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S

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ON THE SAME PAGE WITH TERMINOLOGY.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WERE AT BUFORD HIGH, I WILL THINK THE SHERIFF AND THE CHIEF EVER WANTED OF US TO DO REUNIFICATION.

I THINK THEY WANTED US TO GO DOWN TO THE, UM, GYM AND DISMISS FROM THERE.

BUT THEY KEPT USING THE TERM REUNIFICATION.

WITH THE TERM REUNIFICATION COMES A WHOLE NEW ASPECT FOR ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND THAT REQUIRES THE DISTRICT TEAM TO COME OUT AND, AND FORMS TO BE FILLED OUT.

AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE MEANTIME IS MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT TERMINOLOGY FOR, FOR REUNIFICATION, FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE DOING.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT I GOT OUTTA IT.

YEAH, NO.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S GREAT.

SO THAT'S CONVERSATION YOU'VE HAD WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? YES.

YES.

SO WHAT LESSONS THAT YOU LEARNED FROM THAT EVENT, HOW IS THAT BEING GIVEN TO LIKE MAY RIVER OR HILTON HEAD HIGH OR THE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW FOR THE SECOND HALF OF THE YEAR WHEN WE GO AROUND AND DO TABLETOP EXERCISES.

OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA INCORPORATE ALL THAT WITH THOSE EXERCISES.

OKAY.

TO GO OVER WHAT WE'VE LEARNED ALL THE WAY THROUGH WHATEVER INCIDENT WE, WE GIVE THEM ALL THE WAY THROUGH REUNIFICATION.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

IT'S GONNA BE A LONG DRAWN OUT, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT'S GONNA BE INVOLVED, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GONNA BE INVOLVED AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO REACT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS ALL THE WAY THROUGH, ALL THE WAY THROUGH REUNIFICATION.

RIGHT.

CAUSE I THINK YOU GUYS LEARNED A LOT.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS OUT TO EVERYONE.

I THINK, I THINK MOST OF THE SCHOOLS DUMP AND THE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD WITH THE PRINCIPALS IN HERE, THEY ALL KNOW NOW THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THEIR SCHOOLS CAN DO.

THEY INITIALLY THEY THOUGHT, WELL, WE CAN HANDLE THIS OURSELVES, BUT NOW THEY KNOW FROM WHAT HAPPENED AT BEFORD H THERE'S NO WAY THAT EACH SCHOOL CAN DO THEIR OWN.

OKAY.

THIS IS DEFINITELY A DISTRICT THING.

AND WE, AND WE'VE BEEN LEARNING SOMETHING, SIR, 25 PEOPLE WAS NOT ENOUGH.

WE NEEDED 40 PEOPLE THERE.

GOT IT.

UM, SO I THINK SCHOOLS NOW KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING DO THAT'S GOOD.

THEY'RE GONNA BE A VICTIM TOO OR WHATEVER.

THIS IS A DISTRICT RESPONSIBILITY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND IF YOU HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS WE COVERED, YOU, GLAD TO ANSWER 'EM? NO, NO, I THINK THAT LOOKS GREAT.

I APPRECIATE, YEAH.

MS. BOATRIGHT WOULD, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, UH, RECOMMEND THE FULL BOARD ACCEPTANCE OF OH EIGHT 15 SAFETY AND SECURITY ANNUAL MONITORING REPORT.

MR. CAMPBELL YET FOR SECONDING.

THAT DID ALREADY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

ROBIN, THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.

MS. KUCHEN.

BARRY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. GRIS, YOU HAVE A VERY CHALLENGING JOB AND WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF MAKE TO KEEP 20,000 CHILDREN SAFE EVERY DAY.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

27, ALWAYS DOING THIS BEST.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I JUST NEXT ON THE AGENDA.

WE HAVE FOYA YES.

AND, UH, BOARD MEMBERS.

I HAD THE, UM, PERIODIC MONITORING FOR, BUT ROBIN, I'M ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AN ANNUAL MONITORING REPORT.

CORRECT.

WE DON'T DO PERIODIC MONITORING REPORTS ANYMORE.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SO MISS FRIGHT.

I I, IN THE PAST I'D DONE A PERIODIC MONITOR.

WE, WE HAD PREPARED A PERIODIC MONITORING REPORT AND WE WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION, SENIOR STAFF ABOUT YOU'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO, THE BOARD ONLY WANTS US TO DO AN ANNUAL MONITORING REPORT, AND THIS IS READY AS A PERIODIC MONITORING REPORT.

BUT WHAT, UM, WE DISCUSSED IN SENIOR YOUR STAFF WAS THAT THE BOARD ONLY WANTS THE ANNUAL REPORT.

IS IS THAT WHAT THE WILL OF THE BOARD? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY, TH I KIND OF THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT IT WAS GONNA BE QUARTERLY FOYER REPORTS, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.

BUT IT'S A QUARTERLY REPORT.

SO THE QUARTERLY REPORTS REPORT OUT AND THEN AT THE END YOU PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER AND SAY, SO ON, ON NOVEMBER 28TH, WE DID OUR QUARTERLY REPORT.

RIGHT.

BUT EVERYWHERE, WHATEVER.

SO FORM THAT ANYMORE.

NO, YOU NEED TO MAKE THE REPORT, THE QUARTERLY REPORT.

RIGHT.

SO YOU, SO TODAY'S A QUARTERLY REPORT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD MAKE AND WE'RE NO, WE'RE NO LONGER DOING PERIODIC MONITORING.

WE'RE JUST DOING THE ANNUAL CORRECT.

NO, SEE RIGHT HERE IT SAYS, UM, UNLESS IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS IT IN THE OE IS MY UNDERSTANDING, IT SAYS THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL ENSURE REQUEST RESPONSES ARE TRACKED BY CALENDAR YEAR AND REPORTED QUARTERLY.

YES.

AND AN ANNUAL REPORT.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

SO I THINK, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER S AND IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY RIGHT, LIKE A MONTHLY CONSTRUCTION.

IF IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY, THEN IT'S AN ANNUAL.

BUT, SO WHAT I'M TRYING IS LIKE THE FINANCE, THEY DO QUARTER, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE BRINGS TO GET, THEY BRING QUARTERLY REPORTS.

RIGHT.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.

AND THEN AT THE END THEY WILL SIT THERE AND SAY, SO I REPORT THEIR ANNUAL REPORT IS I REPORT REPORTED ON THIS AND

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THIS AND THIS AND THIS ON THIS DATE, THIS DATE, DATE, THEY, AND THEY GIVE A A, A ANNUAL REPORT.

RIGHT? SO I DON'T HAVE TO DO A PERIODIC MONITORING REPORT.

I JUST, I THINK WE'RE USING WRONG TERMINOLOGY.

I THINK THAT'S, I DON'T WHAT PERIOD IS TO DO THIS DOCUMENT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

JUST REGARD THAT DOCUMENT AT THE MOMENT.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT YEAH, DISREGARD THAT DOCUMENT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M DOING WHAT REPORT.

OKAY.

SO WHAT, SO FOR OUR SECOND, SO FOR OUR QUARTER, HEY MR. SMITH.

SO FOR THIS REPORT, WHICH WOULD WE START? WE INCLUDE FROM THE BEGINNING OF YEAR, BUT IT ENDS AT THE END OF THE THIRD SEPTEMBER.

THIS IS THE REPORT THAT CONTROLS THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

UM, GOES THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH.

WE'VE ACTUALLY INCLUDED MORE UP MORE PAST THAT DAY BECAUSE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO OUR, WE DIDN'T GET TO DO THE REPORT, NOT THAT IN OCTOBER.

CAUSE WE ALREADY HAD THE REJECTABLE.

SO PLEASE.

SO THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD ON THIS FOYA REPORT WAS THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL PLACES WHERE IT SAID, UM, THE REPORT WAS REQUESTED AND THE RECEIVED DATE WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES OVER A MONTH LATER.

AND IT'S AN ASTERISK SAYS DELAY IN RECEIVING GOOD ISSUE AND OUTLOOK.

YES.

SO JESSE, IF YOU COULD JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND TALK ABOUT THE RESOLUTION OF THAT.

SURE, SURE, SURE.

SO YEAH, SO WE USE RIGHT NOW FOR OUR POINT OF PROCESSES DOT FORM WILL, SOMEONE WILL SUBMIT THE FORM AND THEN DOT FORM SPITS IT OUT TO WHOEVER IS SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE THE FORM VIA AN EMAIL.

YOU KEEP FORMS? YEAH, DO FORM IS LIKE ANY FORM, LIKE A FOIA FORM ON THE WEBSITE.

LIKE YOU GO IN AND YOU FILL OUT ON THE WEBSITE A FORM.

AND THEN THE FORM WILL THEN POPULATE AND GET SENT VIA OUR MICROSOFT OUTLOOK EMAIL.

FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF HICCUPS.

I THINK THERE'S BEEN ABOUT THREE HICCUPS WITH THIS WHERE IT DIDN'T, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT DIDN'T SEND IT TO WENDY AND MYSELF.

IT MIGHT HAVE WENT INTO JUNK.

SOMETIMES IF PEOPLE FILL OUT, LIKE IF THEY HAVE A GMAIL, THE SYSTEM THINKS IT'S SPAMS SOMETIMES.

SO I DID TALK TO MARK ABOUT THIS.

THE REASON WE FOUND IT OUT WAS, I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. BENNETT'S REQUEST.

YEAH.

UM, HE SAID, HEY, I'M CHECKING IN ON MY REQUEST.

AND I WAS LIKE, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THAT REQUEST.

AND HE'S LIKE, NO, HERE IT IS.

LIKE I SENT IT.

SO THEN WENT BACK TO IT, THEY HAD JOB, THEY RAN A REPORT LIKE JOB FORM CAN ALSO RUN AN EXCEL SHEET.

AND WE SAW THAT IT SHOWED UP THERE, BUT WE DIDN'T GET THE EMAIL.

SO WE WENT BACK AGAIN AND THEN DOUBLE CHECK SOME MORE.

AND THEN WE FOUND TWO MORE.

AND SO NOW WE'RE HAVING TO JUST KEEP CROSS CHECKING.

I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO GETTING A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE.

UM, THINK JUST FOIA, I THINK THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD USES THAT AS WELL.

UM, ROB CON AND MARK ARE ASSISTING WITH THAT.

IT WOULD MAKE THE PROCESS MUCH EASIER AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE THESE, THESE HICCUPS.

I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IS OUTLOOK IS ACTUALLY VERY SMART AND IT TRIES TO BE HELPFUL, BUT WE MISS SOME THINGS.

AND SO IT'S A LITTLE FRUSTRATING.

SO, UM, YES WE DID, OBVIOUSLY TERRY BENNETT GOT HIS SAYING.

THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE ON HERE, UM, THAT WAS DELAYED.

I CALLED THAT INDIVIDUAL.

IT WAS SOMEONE FROM CALIFORNIA.

IT WAS A VERY, VERY EXTENSIVE REQUEST.

AND, UM, ASKING IF THEY STILL NEEDED THE INFORMATION.

THAT PERSON WAS ACTUALLY A REPORTER.

THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN BACK TO ME.

I'M ASSUMING THEIR STORY, IF YOU WILL, HAS COME AND WENT.

UM, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE TO ME THAT PARTICULAR REQUEST WAS SOMETHING THEY JUST SENT OUT TO THIS GET INFORMATION.

UM, SO I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MATTHEW MAYER, THE EXPENSIVE ONE FROM CALIFORNIA? IT WAS LIKE $1,100 OR SOMETHING.

HE WANTED VIDEO.

CAN YOU OUR SECURITY CAMERA? THAT'S A, UM, THAT WAS THE, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

PEOPLE KNOW THAT.

NO.

SO IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THIS WAS A PARENT AND UNDER CURB HER, WE DO NOT GIVE OUT VIDEOS.

WE DON'T GIVE OUT EDUCATIONAL RECORDS.

CAUSE UNDER FOYA, THAT IS AN EXCEPTION TO DISCLOSURE.

WE CANNOT GIVE OUT PATIENT ABOUT STUDENTS.

WELL, AND I WOULD THINK WE, YOU CAN'T REALLY FOA SECURITY CAMERAS.

CAN YOU? I MEAN, DON'T YOU STILL NEED A COURT ORDER TO GET THAT KIND OF STUFF? RIGHT.

WE GET FO FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

OKAY.

BUT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A NO, WE DON'T, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TRADITIONALLY DO THAT WE DON'T PROVIDE.

THAT WE CAN'T PROVIDE.

INFORM DIDN'T EVEN OCCUR TO ME THAT YOU COULD FOIA SECURITY.

CAN'T , BUT IT STILL COMES IN AND WE HAVE TO RESPOND.

MR. SMITH HAS JOINED US IN PERSON.

OH, GOOD.

HI MR. SMITH.

YEAH.

UM, I

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HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION AS WELL.

UH, THIS, TO GO BACK TO WHAT SHE WAS SAYING ABOUT, ABOUT THESE FO YEAR PROGRAMS, UH, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THESE FO YEARS IS IT DON'T, DON'T WE HAVE A PERSON THAT LOOKS DIRECTLY OVER FOER OR, OR IS SHE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE? NO, MISS STATON DOES NOT DO THAT ANYMORE.

IT NOW FALLS IN COMMUNICATIONS AND WENDY AND I FO AND JILLIAN, WELL I, I HAVE A BOARD MEMBER THAT WAS THE IMPORTANCE OF FOYER.

WE SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE WHO THOSE FOYERS SHOULD GO DIRECTLY TO AND A COMPUTER PROGRAM SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THESE, UH, THIS TELL YOU THIS MR. SMITH, THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY A JOB POSTED RIGHT NOW FOR A COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST AND ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY THINGS WILL BE FOR YOU.

SO THAT POSITION WILL BE HIRED.

UM, THERE'S ONLY BEEN A FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE REPLIED THUS FAR, UM, STILL GOING THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS, BUT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND THAT'S, THAT WILL BE HAPPENING.

I THINK YOU STILL NEED SYSTEM THOUGH FOR THEM TO, IT CAN'T JUST BE A RANDOM EMAIL BECAUSE AT LEAST WE HAVE THE BACKUP.

LIKE WE WERE ABLE TO RUN THE REPORT AND CHECK THAT, YOU KNOW, VIA THE EMAIL AS WELL.

RIGHT.

UM, I THINK YOU CAN KIND BOTH THINGS, YOU KNOW, I, YEAH, YEAH.

BOTH WANT HURT.

BUT IT IS GOOD WHEN YOU CAN CALL SOMEONE AND TALK AND SAY, HEY, I PUT REQUEST AND YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN HOLD, I TALKED TO A I, I CALL A AND TALK TO A ABOUT A KNOWS ABOUT IT AND THAT YOU ACTUALLY KNOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY TRYING TO BE IN THE TIME MANUFACTURING IN TERMS OF BEING VERSUS IT SOMEONE EMAILING, YOU KNOW, I PERSON, I'VE HAD TO CALL COUPLE PLACES.

I'VE DEALT WITH SOME THINGS IN TERMS OF A FO AND I KNOW IT COULD BE DIFFICULT AND, AND IT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE.

IT SHOULD BE A SIMPLE REQUEST AND EITHER THEY GONNA DENY THEY GONNA GRANT REQUEST.

WELL, AND I'LL TELL YOU LIKE THEY'RE NOT AS SIMPLE AS YOU MIGHT THINK.

SOME THOUGHTS, LIKE SOME OF THEM ARE VERY EXPANSIVE AND WE DO, AS YOU SEE ON THERE, WE DO HAVE TO CHARGE BECAUSE THERE'S TIME TO GO THROUGH.

WHEN I SAY, WHEN I SAY THEY GONNA GRANT OR NOT, I'M NOT TALKING IN TERMS OF THAT.

I'M TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF GETTING BACK AND SAYING, HEY, I GOT IT.

GIMME SOME TIME IN TERMS OF, OF CONNECTING WITH THAT ACTUAL PERSON AND HAVING THAT CONVERSATION KNOWING THAT YOU'RE NOT BEING, KNOW THAT YOUR EMPLOYER IS JUST NOT IN, IN LA.

LONG ANSWER .

I DO HEAR YOU ON THAT.

AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING ALSO ON THAT FRONT, CUZ I HEAR YOU, WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF POINT REQUESTS OBVIOUSLY.

RIGHT.

AND SO WE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON KEEPING THE WEBSITE VERY MUCH UP TO DATE SO YOU CAN GO SEE WHATEVER IS OPEN RIGHT NOW.

UM, BEFORE WE WERE PUTTING UP THE FINAL BOARD REQUEST, BUT NOW WE'RE PUTTING THEM UP AS THEY'RE IN PROCESS.

UM, SO PEOPLE CAN LOOK AND SEE WHERE THINGS ARE FALLING ON THAT FRONT TOO.

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, WE DO NEED, THAT'S ONE REASON I'M TALKING TO MARK SO WE CAN GET A BETTER FO PLATFORM IF YOU WILL.

RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S JUST ONE THING THAT, THAT IS, THAT IS ONE PART OF OUR PRODUCT.

BUT THEN I DON'T WANT D BECAUSE HERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T GET D FOR AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE ON.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO I FORGET WE PUT THIS ON THE CONSENT REPORT RIGHT? IN THE PAST.

YES.

YES.

SO WE ACCEPT IT, RIGHT? IS THAT THE CORRECT A TERM? UM, I THINK SO, YES.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION IN RETURN OF ON MY WAY IN, UH, I WAS GOING IN AND OUT, BUT IT WAS IN TERMS OF THE, OF THE, UH, REPORT REPORT, WAS THAT COMING BEFORE THE BOARD OR, OR WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT ENTAIL? I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

I DO.

I HE'S GONE.

BUT IS THAT, IS THAT REPORT COMING TO THE BOARD OR? YEP, I THINK IT'S GONNA COME TO THE BOARD, JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE HR, WHICH I'LL BRING IT UP, UM, UH, WILL COME AS A MOTION UNDER THE COMMITTEE REPORT FOR OPERATIONS AND WE WILL HAVE MR. GRISSOM OR ONE OF HIS STAFF THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

SO I GUESS, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION ABOUT FOIA OR DO WE JUST NEED A MOTION TO BRING THIS TO THE FULL BOARD? OKAY.

I THINK JUST MAKE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UM, THAT THE OPERATION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE FULL BOARD ACCEPTANCE OF THE OE 16.1 AND 16.2 GOIA THIRD QUARTER REPORT SECOND AND PLAY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

YES.

I'LL, OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

HI.

YEAH, WE'RE ON A ROLL.

3 0 3 30.

OKAY.

WHICH BRINGS US TO THE FINAL AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS SOMETHING I HAD ASKED FOR, UM, A DISCUSSION ABOUT PRINCIPAL REQUESTS IN 8% FUNDING

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PROJECTS.

I SEE MR. OTTING, YOU'RE VERY TINY, BUT I SEE YOU COMING TO THE TABLE.

THERE WE GO FAR AWAY FROM CAMERA.

I'M LOOMING OVER EVERYTHING NOW.

ARE YOU STARTING THIS CONVERSATION? WELL, WHEN WE HAD TALKED, YOU KNOW, YES, SURE.

I, ONE OF MY, UH, REASONS I WANNA HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IS IN LIGHT OF THE FACILITIES ASSESSMENT THAT WE HAVE NOW, WHICH PUTS A REALLY CLEAR PICTURE ON, UM, THE STATE OF THE VARIOUS ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS OF THE SCHOOLS, RIGHT? H V A C, UM, YOU KNOW, MECHANICAL AND, AND ELECTRICAL AND CASEMENTS, THAT WE ARE REALLY GONNA START USING THAT TO MAKE SOME OF THESE 8% DECISIONS.

AND WE HAD LOOKED AT AND DISCUSSED AND I BELIEVE MORE OR LESS APPROVED, SORT OF A MORE CATEGORICAL APPROACH RATHER THAN A SUPER GRANULAR APPROACH OF SORT OF LINE BY LINE.

BUT IN THAT I HAVE THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON OPERATIONS, JUST A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS PRINCIPAL'S REQUEST COMES ABOUT.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEIR REQUESTS FOR THINGS THAT I THINK SHOULD HAVE BEEN PICKED UP BY EITHER MAINTENANCE OR THE F FACILITIES ASSESS FAS THE FACILITIES ASSESSMENT.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY REQUESTS, IT'S SORT OF MORE, YOU KNOW, HEY THERE'S A MASSIVE WATER LEAK, YOU KNOW, IN THE CEILING.

THAT'S NOT REALLY A REQUEST.

WHAT I THINK OF WITH THE, SO YOU KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE THAT.

UM, AND WOULD YOU REALLY CALL THAT PRINCIPAL'S REQUEST? AND THEN SECONDARILY, THERE IS THIS WHOLE CATEGORY OF SORT OF, UH, THINGS THAT A PRINCIPAL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DONE.

MONEY ALLOWING.

BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, OH FCA, THANK YOU.

I WAS WONDERING FCA, BUT I KEPT THINKING FELLOWSHIP OF CHRISTIAN ATHLETES, , THE FCAS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAVE SORT OF THE WANTS AND NEEDS WHEN WE NOW HAVE THIS HEAVILY DOCUMENTED, UM, SORT OF LIST OF NEEDS AND PRIORITIES.

AND MY GUESS IS THAT THE 25 MILLION WE AUTHORIZE ISN'T GONNA REALLY CUT THAT.

AND AS AN EXAMPLE, I THINK BEFORE A PRINCIPAL GETS A DIGITAL SIGN FOR $15,000, WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE BROKEN FURNITURE IN CLASSROOMS. SO GOING FORWARD AS WE'VE ADOPT A MORE CATEGORICAL APPROVAL PROCESS AND WE HAVE THIS VERY COMPREHENSIVE FCA AND THE FACILITY DO PROGRAM, UM, WHAT ROLE WILL PRINCIPAL REQUESTS, HOW WILL WE HANDLE THAT QUESTION FOR ME? YEAH, SURE.

SO A COUPLE OF POINTS, I MEAN THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, UM, ONE IS THAT I DO FEEL LIKE THERE IS A NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOLS TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE THE NEEDS ARE IN THEIR BUILDINGS.

THEY'RE IN THEIR BUILDINGS EVERY DAY.

THERE ARE THINGS THEY COME ACROSS THAT EVEN THE FACILITIES CONDITION ASSESSMENT MAY NOT HAVE FOUND OR MAY NOT HAVE EVEN BEEN WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW TO REVIEW.

I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I THINK THAT ARE IN ACTUALLY THE 2023, UM, THAT MADE IT TO THE LIST THAT I THINK ARE ONE IS THERE WAS A REQUEST AT BEFORD HIGH FOR A SET OF STAIRS GOING DOWN THE BACK HILL, UM, COMING OUT.

I DON'T KNOW WHICH WING THEY CATEGORIZE THAT WING IS, BUT IT'S DOWN TO THOSE ATHLETIC FIELDS THAT ARE THE BACK PRACTICE FIELDS.

UM, THEIR CONCERN WAS ALL THE TREE ROUTE AND THE TRIP HAZARD WHEN THEY HAD EVACUATIONS FROM THE BUILDING, THAT WAS ONE THAT MADE THE LIST THAT, YOU KNOW, ON A FACILITIES CONDITION ASSESSMENT, WE DON'T FIND THAT, CUZ THAT'S NOT A NECESSARILY A EXISTING DEVICE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED OR REPAIRED.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY FOUND JUST THROUGH THEIR EVACUATION, UM, ROUTINES THAT, UM, MADE ITS WAY TO THE LIST.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE, ST.

HELEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THERE IS A TEACHER THERE THAT IS IN A WHEELCHAIR AND THERE ISN'T WHEELCHAIR ACCESS OUT OF HER INTO THE BUILDING.

WELL THAT'S AN EXAMPLE WHERE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE FOUND THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION TO A PRINCIPAL'S REQUEST.

ONE OF THE GO AHEAD.

NO, NO, I WAS JUST, I DON'T WANNA GET INTO A BACK AND FORTH, BUT I'M JUST LIKE, THINK AS WE, YOU KNOW, CUZ MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT TENDS TO TAKE OFF ON ME.

SO THOSE TWO EXAMPLES, WHAT WORRIES ME IS A WHY THEY'RE NOT GETTING PICKED UP BY MAINTENANCE.

I MEAN, THERE'S SAFETY AND SECURITY AND YOU KNOW, HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY IS A FEDERAL LAW.

SO TO ME THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IS THERE NO PROCESS OUTSIDE OF THE FCA FOR PICKING UP THINGS THAT ARE LIKE SAFETY HAZARDS OR COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL DISABILITIES LAW, YOU KNOW, TO, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S A PRINCIPAL REQUEST.

AND THE PART THAT WORRIES ME IS IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROCESS FOR THAT AND WE'RE RELIANT ON PRINCIPLES

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TO NOTIFY US, THAT PUTS A LOT OF LIABILITY.

I MEAN, WHAT IF THE PRINCIPAL DOESN'T NOTICE THAT THE SET OF STAIRS, YOU KNOW, OR DOESN'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REPORT THAT, ASSUMING THAT THE, THE MAINTENANCE OR SOMETHING IS GONNA TAKE CARE OF THAT.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PUTTING A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY.

AND I KNOW PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HIGH LEVEL OF TECHNICAL SKILLS AMONG PEOPLE FROM DOING MINOR HOUSEWORK, YOU KNOW, THAT TO BEING REALLY ON THE BALL AND SAYING, HEY, THIS DOESN'T WORK, THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

ARE WE RELYING ON STAFF AT THE SCHOOLS TO NOTIFY US OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT INSIDE THE FCA? SO I MEAN, THERE'S A COUPLE QUESTIONS THERE.

ONE, AND I'D SAY WHEN WE ARE NOTIFIED, IT DOES BRING ON AN INVESTIGATION BECAUSE WE NEED TO GO SEE WHAT EXTENT IT'S NEEDED AND ACTUALLY DO KIND OF SOME COSTS OR COME UP WITH, UM, SOME INFORMATION.

SO A COST ESTIMATE CAN BE DONE BEFORE IT CAN EVEN MAKE THE LIST.

SO WE'RE NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP THAT THEY MAY SAY IS A SAFETY CONCERN THAT WHEN WE'RE INVESTIGATING, LIKE, WELL THAT'S NOT TRULY A SAFETY ITEM, LET'S JUST, AND I CAN'T TRY AND THINK OF AN EXAMPLE THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT THOSE DO HAPPEN ON A REGULAR OCCASION.

SO WHEN THEY DO MAKE THESE REQUESTS, WE DO GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE 'EM TO FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY IS NEEDED AND WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ARE ARE WE RELYING ON THEM? THE ANSWER IS NO.

BUT THEY MAY PUT US IN A DIRECTION OF SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PREPARED.

AND THEN ON HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBILITY, WE, WE HAVE HAD HANDICAPPED, UH, ACCESSIBILITY REPORTS DONE IN THE PAST, AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT ESPECIALLY IN OLDER BUILDINGS, THE NUMBER OF AREA OF POTENTIAL ITEMS IS ALMOST INDEFINITE.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT CAN BE FOUND.

YOU HIT THE BIG ONES AND THE MAIN ONES AND THOSE ARE WHAT YOU TRY TO ADDRESS.

BUT YOU MAY NOT FIND ONE THAT SOMEONE THAT'S HANDICAPPED FINDS WHILE THEY'RE, UM, TRYING TO ACCESS THE BUILDING AND THEN THEY POINT THAT OUT TO THE SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL IN TURN POINTS THAT OUT TO US AS A NEED AND IT MAY END UP BEING A CAPITAL NEED, UH, ALONG THOSE LINES.

SO, UM, AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS THAT THE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST BRING INTO THE CONVERSATION IS RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN PRINCIPALS MAKE THESE REQUESTS, WE INVESTIGATE 'EM, WE PRICE THEM, WE ALSO CATEGORIZE 'EM, YOU KNOW, IN OUR CATEGORIZE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART, SAFETY, SECURITY, UM, UH, ASSET PROTECTION, UH, CLASSROOM IMPROVEMENT, UM, ENERGY EFFICIENCY.

SO THOSE ARE THE, WHEN YOU, WE CATEGORIZE 'EM INTO THOSE DIFFERENT CATEGOR CATEGORIES AND USUALLY SAFETY AND SECURITY, AS Y'ALL KNOW, THE MONEY PRIMARILY GOES TO ASSET PROTECTION, SAFETY, SECURITY.

SO IN MY MIND, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE SCHOOL'S VOICE ON WHAT THEY SEE THEIR NEEDS ARE.

AND IF IT'S A SAFETY AND SECURITY CONCERN, WHETHER IT CAME FROM ANCA OR IF IT CAME FROM OUR STAFF MAINTENANCE OR THE PRINCIPAL AT THE SCHOOL, UM, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE, IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED OR WE NEED TO CONSIDER, I WOULD, I I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD REALLY SAY JUST TO, AS MY GRANDFATHER WOULD SAY, YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET IN TERMS OF MRS. BOLT, RIGHT? IN TERMS OF, OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU BRING UP IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE.

THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN ALLOCATING FOR MAINTENANCE TO COME BACK IN HOUSE.

BECAUSE WHEN TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, WHEN YOU'RE CONTRACTING THEM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TO DO, THE QUESTION IS, IS SAFETY AND SECURITY A PART OF THEIR CONTRACT? BECAUSE WE DO, WE DO, WE DO SUBCONTRACT UH, UM, MAINTENANCE.

SO I MEAN, SO THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT ALSO A PART OF, OF, OF THEIR JOB? I THOUGHT WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE TALKING PERCENT.

I SEE WHAT MR. SMITH'S SAYING, BUT SHE SAID PERCENT FUNDS.

WHEN YOU TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT, ABOUT THE FFC, IS IT CALLED THE FACILITY LOOKING INTO THAT? IS THAT ACTUALLY A PART OF, OF THEIR, OF THEIR JOB AND IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT ARE WE PAYING THEM TO DO EXACTLY, LET SAY INSECURITY OR ARE WE PAYING THEM TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITIES? SO YOU'RE ASKING SOMEONE TO DO TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

YOU ASKING THEM TO DO A FUNCTIONAL ONE THAT YOU'RE NOT PAYING THEM FOR, BUT ONE FOR OUR FUNCTION ACTUALLY THINKS IMPORTANT.

SO, AND SO I BROUGHT UP IN INTO MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR US TO ACTUALLY HAVE THEM INHOUSE AND HAVING TO BE A PART DISTRICT SO THAT YOU CAN GET ALL THAT BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.

SO, SO THAT TIE TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING US CONVERSATION'S, THE, THAT I, WHAT ARE THEY GETTING PAID TO DO? AND THEY'RE LOOKING JUST SIMPLY AT FACILITIES THAT AS EXIST OR FACILITIES THAT SHOULDN'T EXIST.

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YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT, THEN THEY CAN PICK UP THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED, FOR EXAMPLE, HANDICAP RAMPS.

IS THAT ADEQUATE? YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF FACILITIES UP UPDATE AND THIS YEAR TIME OR TO BE LOOKING AT SCHOOL IS 25, 30, 40 YEARS OLD, THAT FACILITY MIGHT BE A LOT MORE UPGRADING THAN JUST FACTS AND OTHER THINGS DONE, YOU KNOW? WELL, IF I CAN KINDA A, I'LL GIVE YOU A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB FOR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL AND I, I ACTUALLY WON'T RAISE MY NUMBER CAUSE I USED TO SAY THAT ONCE IT GIVES A PROJECT GETS ABOVE $5,000, YOU START TO MOVE TOWARDS A CAPITAL GOING BEYOND MAINTENANCE.

NOW PROBABLY SHOULD SAY $10,000, BUT THAT'S JUST TO SAY THAT MAINTENANCE REPAIRS OR ADS, YOU KNOW, UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND LET'S SAY IT'S A SIDEWALK REPAIR, WELL FOR THE MOST PART THAT'S, THEY'RE STILL PAYING FOR THE CONCRETE OR THEY'RE GONNA OVERSEE A CONCRETE CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT WORK.

UM, WHAT WE PAY FOR, THE ONLY THING WE PAY FOR IS THE LABOR OF THE MAINTENANCE WORKERS.

WE DO NOT PAY FOR SUPPLIES, WE DO NOT PAY FOR ANYTHING SUBCONTRACT OUT.

SO EVEN THEY DO THE WORK IN HAND, THE SUPPLIES ARE ON US.

AND ANYTIME THAT STARTS GOING ABOVE 5,000 EXCEPT FOR MAYBE AN H HPC COMPRESSOR, WHICH CAN, I'M NOT TALKING, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RULE OF THE THE FCA.

WHAT'S THEIR ROLE IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT A BUILDING WHEN THEY COME IN? ARE THEY LOOKING AT SOMETHING AS IS AS EXIST? ARE THEY LOOKING AT THE WAY IT SHOULD EXIST? AND THIS DAY AND TIME AFTER BEING IN EXISTENCE FOR 25 YEARS.

SO KEVIN KELLY STILL ON THERE? DO YOU WANT ANSWER THAT QUESTION OR DO YOU WANT ME TO, I'M STILL ON HERE, BUT WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD AND ASK THAT.

THE QUESTION IS THECA, ARE THEY LOOKING AT THE WAY THE BUILDING EXISTS TODAY AND IN PRESENT STATE OR THE WAY SHOULD EXIST TODAY IS TODAY'S TIME, YOU KNOW, THIS BUILDING EXAMPLE, THIS FACILITY IS WHAT 50 YEARS OLD? ARE WE LOOKING TO UPKEEP THIS AS IS OR AS WE LOOKING TO UPGRADE IT ALONG WITH? NOW WHAT THE, WHAT WE DO IN THE FCA IS WE GIVE YOU A CURRENT CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THAT BUILDING IS.

NOW TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING, IF THE BUILDING WAS BUILT 15 YEARS AGO, WE UTILIZE THAT NUMBER AS THE LIFE CYCLE OF THAT BUILDING.

SO IF THE BUILDING HAD A 20 YEAR LIFE CYCLE AND IT WAS BUILT 15 YEARS AGO, WE'D ASSESS IT AT FIVE YEARS LEFT.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? MY QUESTION IS, OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO A BUILDING THAT'S 15, 20 YEARS.

DO YOU LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF YOUR ASSESSMENT? YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S NOW NEEDED.

HANDICAP RAMPS IS JUST A SIMPLE, SIMPLE EXAMPLE OF WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED.

NOW IT WASN'T NEEDED WHEN THE BUILDING WAS BUILT, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LIGHTING AND L U D LIGHTING AND ALL THAT KIND STUFF OF UPGRADE OVER THE LAST 20, 25 YEARS TO ANY FACILITY IN AMERICA.

AND DO WE LOOK AT WHAT'S POSSIBILITIES OF THOSE UPGRADES OR DO WE LOOK AT THE WAY THINGS ARE AND HOW DO WE JUST MAINTAIN THE FACILITY AS IS BY DOING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE FIXES THAT OF THE CURRENT BUILDING? THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO UPGRADE.

I THINK IN TERMS OF LONG TERM UPGRADE, YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP FIXES THE OLD BUILDING AND EXPECT IT TO KEEP UP WITH THE MODERN NEEDS.

YOU, YOU'RE, YOU ARE, YOU'RE DEAD ON THE, UH, AND I BELIEVE WE REFER TO THAT AS A FACILITIES CONDITION INDEXING FOR FCI.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU TAKE THE BUILDING'S, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, PLANT MAINTENANCE AND THE, AND THE FACILITY'S ACTUAL VALUE AND UTILIZING, UH, THAT YOU DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT FACILITY IS ACTUALLY COST EFFICIENT TO RENOVATE IT OR EXPAND IT OR UH, SOMETHING IN THAT CATEGORY.

BUT BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION ABOUT WHEN WE ASSESS IT, WE ASSESS WHAT'S THERE AND WHAT TODAY WOULD BE ITS REPLACEMENT.

OKAY? THAT'S, YOU, YOU ASSESS AIR CONDITIONING AND LET'S SAY THE AIR CONDITIONING NEEDS TO BE PLACED NEXT YEAR, THEY'RE GONNA PRICE OUR NEWEST AIR CONDITIONING UNIT AS THE UM, AND THAT'S A, AND THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE IF THAT AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM

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IS AN R 22 SYSTEM AND WE KNOW THAT WE CAN'T GO BACK TO THAT, WE'RE ASSESSING WHAT YOUR DUE REPLACEMENT WOULD BE, WHICH IS TODAY'S STANDARD.

BUT IF I CAN JUST REAL QUICK FOR WHAT THEY AREN'T ASSESSING, LET'S JUST SAY THE CLASSROOM 700 SQUARE FEET AND WE WOULD HAVE A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT CLASSROOM, THEY DON'T ASSESS.

THAT'S NOT, THAT'S JUST WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET TO THAT? THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION FOR ANOTHER TIME.

YEAH, THAT'S A DIFFERENT WHAT TYPE OF OF, AND I DO KIND OF WANNA GET BACK CUZ ONE I WAS, WE WERE KIND OF CLOSING IN ON SOMETHING WITH THE PRINCIPAL'S REQUEST ISSUE BECAUSE TO ME THERE'S, I THINK IF WE LOOK AT HOW WE APPROVED THE 8%, WE DID THE CATEGORIES BASED ON THE FCA.

CORRECT.

AND IT WAS H V YOU KNOW, WE NEED THIS MUCH MONEY FOR H V A C AND THIS MUCH MONEY, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF THING BASED STRICTLY OFF OF THE CONDITIONS, UM, ASSESSMENT.

SO 8% THIS TIME PRIOR TO THECA BEING COMPLETED.

SO THECA IS ONLY GONNA BE USE IN THE UPCOMING ONE.

IT WILL HELP US DEVELOP THE PROJECT LIST.

OH, OKAY.

I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING.

WELL, WHAT WE OFFICIALLY, WELL I DON'T EVEN WANNA GET BACK INTO ALL THAT.

CAUSE WHAT I'M SAYING GOING FORWARD, I SAW DEFINITELY A CATEGORIZATION THING.

UM, AND I KNOW THE FCA HAS THAT, AND IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WHAT YOU SAID IS THAT SAFETY AND SECURITY IS NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, SAFETY UPGRADES ARE NOT UNDER THECA.

IS THAT RIGHT? LIKE IF THERE'S A A A BROKEN DOOR FOR EXAMPLE, OR I, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE UNDER MAINTENANCE.

UM, BUT LIKE USING YOUR EXAMPLE, CAUSE I REMEMBER THE BEAUFORT HIGH, THE STAIRS AND THEY WERE ROTTED SOME OF THE STAIRS AS I RECALL AND IT WAS AN ESCAPE ROUTE.

UM, SO IT WOULD DEFINITELY SAY THAT WOULD FALL UNDER AND IT CAME UNDER 8%.

SO I'M ASSUMING IT WAS OVER 5,000 IF I RECALL IT WAS IN THE 10 TO $13,000 RANGE TO REPAIR ALL THAT.

NOW RECOGNIZE THAT, THAT THOSE STAIRS ARE NOT IN EXISTENCE.

IT WAS A PATH DOWN THE HILL THAT HAD TREE ROUTE THAT WERE TRIP HAZARDS.

SO THEY REQUESTED STAIRS TO BE BUILT AND THAT'S WHAT'S FUNDED BY THE 8% PROJECT.

SO IT WASN'T A REPAIR OF SOMETHING THAT WAS THERE EXISTING, IT WAS THE CREATION OF SOMETHING NEW THAT HAD NOT BEEN THERE BEFORE.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE THAT STRONG A MEMORY I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT, BUT, UM, IT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT A STUDENT MIGHT BE INJURED DURING AN EVACUATION.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

CORRECT.

YEAH, IT'S SO THAT WOULDN'T REALLY FALL UN THERE'S NOTH THERE'S NOTHING THAT IN THE FCA THAT CAPTURES THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.

SAYING AND THE OE DOES SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL COMPLY WITH ALL LAWS AND THAT SAFETY AND SECUR IS NUMBER ONE RIGHT.

ON ALL OF OUR, UH, FUNDAMENTAL, I FORGET WHAT THE OE IS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I KNOW SAFETY AND SECURITY IS LIKE THE TOP PRIORITY.

SO THOSE TWO THINGS WOULD FALL OUTSIDE OF THE FCA, HOWEVER THEY GET TO US.

RIGHT? WHAT I AM MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS WE HAVE, AND I CAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS TRADE OFF HAVES, WANTS, NEEDS, ET CETERA, BUT WE HAVE SUCH AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF THINGS AND SCHOOLS THAT ARE QUITE OLD, 35 SCHOOLS IN A TITLE AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR.

AT WHAT POINT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW SORT OF, I'D LIKE TO HAVE MY, UH, GUIDANCE COUNSELOR OFFICE REMODELED FOR $300,000 BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS FROM A POLITICAL STANDPOINT, IT'S HARD WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING THAT THE BATHROOMS ARE ALL BROKEN AT THEIR KIDS' SCHOOL.

BUT WE'RE WE'RE DOING THESE OTHER SORT OF LIKE UPGRADES TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.

AND I, THAT'S WHY I'M WONDERING WHERE, I DO THINK THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO 8% AND HOW WE'LL REPRESENT NEXT YEAR.

THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SORT OF, THEY, THEY DON'T FALL UNDER SAFETY AND SECURITY AND THEY DON'T FALL UNDER, YOU KNOW, COMPLYING WITH FEDERAL LAW AND THEY DON'T FALL UNDER THE FCA.

HERE'S THE PROJECTS WE'D LIKE TO DO.

AND I THINK IT'S FAIR TO PUT THAT ON THERE, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S A ROLE FOR THE BOARD TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING AS WE SHIFT TO A LESS OF A LINE BY LINE MODEL, HOW WE'RE GOING TO REPRESENT THESE SORTS OF SCHOOL BASED REQUESTS.

YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE THIS FURNITURE, I'D LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, CANOPY, WHATEVER IT IS WHEN OTHER SCHOOLS MAYBE FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE OTHER HIGHER PRIORITY NEEDS AND, AND MS. I I DO, I DO AGREE WITH YOU AND I DO SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND YOU BRINGING THIS UP, UH, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THIS, WITH THE PRINCIPALS, UH, AND, AND I KIND OF SEE BOTH SIDES WHERE SOMETIMES ADMINISTRATORS CAN SEE THINGS THAT THE FDC DOES NOT SEE.

I, UM, I DO, I DO AGREE.

I DO, I DO AGREE THAT, BUT I ALSO STRONGLY AGREE WITH, I ALSO STRONGLY DO UNDERSTANDING IN TERMS OF LIKE, LIKE WHEN YOU SIT, LIKE WE ARE BUILDING A GOD'S A DEPARTMENT WHEN YOU GONNA BE, OR YOU GO SCHOOL WHERE THE BATHROOM SMELLED, LIKE YOU WALK IN, YOU IN THE BUILDING, SET THE TANK, AND WHEN YOU FIRST WALK IN THE SCHOOL, GOD FORBID YOU WALK THE FIRST BATHROOM, YOU WALK IN SMELL LIKE A ACCEPT THE TANK AND, AND WE, WE JUST ADD ON

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THE FRONT OF A SCHOOL.

SO I I DO, I DO AGREE BECAUSE I I AM POSED THAT QUESTION A LOT AND BASICALLY WE DO NOT KIND OF HAVE NO SAY SO TO, TO SOME DEGREE TO HOW THAT WORKS.

SO I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT, THAT THAT IS, THAT THAT IS, UH, VERY, VERY, UH, IT IS VERY, IT IS SOMETHING I I, I'VE BROUGHT UP, UH, AND IN THE PAST I I DO STRONGLY AGREE WITH THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THAT ALSO GOES ALONG WITH, UM, AND IN TERMS OF HAVING, HAVING CONTROL FROM, FROM THE DISTRICT DOWN, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A, A PROTOCOL MECHANISM.

THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN ASKING, ASKING FOR, FOR, FOR A WHILE NOW WITHIN THIS DISTRICT.

YEAH, I MEAN I, I AM VERY COMFORTABLE WITH NOT MAKING DECISIONS AS TO H V A C UNITS AND PLUMBING.

I JUST, IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER, I'M JUST WONDERING HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE THAT.

AND I, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANNA PUT MISS FIDT ON THE SPOT OR IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR IF YOU'RE JUST HERE FOR THE LISTENING OF IT.

I THINK IT'S, I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A QUESTION THAT HAS, UH, RAISED THE SURFACE EVER SINCE WE LOOKED AT THE 8% AND WE SAW SOME REQUESTS ON THERE THAT ASKED US TO QUESTION WHY THOSE WERE BEING, UM, PUSHED FORWARD FOR 8% FUNDS AND OTHER THINGS WERE NOT.

I KNOW WE ALSO LEARNED THAT, OR TO BE EXPEDITIOUS ABOUT IT, SOMETIMES YOU PLAN THINGS WHILE THE SCHOOL IS GONNA BE SHUT DOWN.

SO THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE SHUT DOWN FOR THE SUMMER FOR, FOR THIS, SO THEREFORE LET'S GET THESE REQUESTS IN.

UM, AND WE QUESTION THAT.

I MEAN, SO I, I UNDERSTAND THE DILEMMA IT IS IN, BUT I THINK THE MORE TIMES THAT WE CAN USE CRITERIA BASED ON EXPERT ASSESSMENTS, THE BETTER WE ARE OFF WITH DEALING WITH EVERYBODY EQUITABLY.

AND WE HAVE THE, UM, FACILITIES CONDITION ASSESSMENT.

WE HAVE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, MISS BOATRIGHT, FEDERAL GUIDELINES FOR ACCESSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE WITH, UM, MOBILITY ISSUES.

WE HAVE GUIDELINES THAT ARE, THOSE ARE THE CRITERIA.

AND, AND THE MORE WE ADHERE TO THAT CRITERIA TO GET THINGS ACCOMPLISHED MAKES IT MORE EQUITABLE ACROSS THE DISTRICT.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'LL, OH, SORRY MR. CAMPBELL, THE OTHER ELEMENT OF THAT WE'RE IGNORING IS, UH, THE VALUE OF THAT FIXED 8% AMOUNT.

IT'S JUST CAN'T GET THE JOB DONE ANYMORE.

YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

I MEAN THERE'S JUST, THAT'S WORK YOU CAN GET DONE FOR THE, WHAT, 25 BILLION AND THAT'S JUST RIGHT.

THAT'S JUST NOT YEAH.

NOT AS MUCH WORK CAN, WELL THAT SOUNDS LIKE A FUTURE TOPIC .

WELL, YEAH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION IF YOU GOING APPROACH 8% GETTING THAT PRINCIPLES LIST ACCOMMODATED TO ANY DEGREE, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ROBERT AND OTHERS HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY TO, TO LOOK AT AND FIX THINGS.

YEAH.

NO, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND THEN, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WHAT I'M WONDERING ABOUT ROBERT AND MAYBE, UM, WHAT I JUST BASICALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OR HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT AND WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSION ABOUT IS HOW NEXT TIME WE DO THE 8% PROJECT AND WE HAVE THE EXPERT FACILITY CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT THAT WE'RE GOING OFF OF, AND IT'S VERY WELL LAID OUT AS TO WHAT HAS TO GET DONE AND THEN WHAT REALLY, REALLY SHOULD GET DONE.

UM, HOW WE'RE GOING TO REPRESENT NOT THE PRINCIPAL REQUEST FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY, BUT THE PRINCIPAL REQUEST OF THINGS THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE.

AND, UM, SO I GUESS IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE ANOTHER CATEGORY SAYING, YOU KNOW, POSSIBILITY SOMETHING, BASICALLY THAT'S MY ONLY HESITATION WITH MOVING TO MORE OF A CATEGORY BASED APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THE BOARD, IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE BOARD HAS SOME INSIGHT INTO WHO'S GETTING UPGRADED WHEN AND HOW OFTEN AND HOW MUCH.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO THAT GOING FORWARD.

UH, I, I, UM, ONE, ONE THING I KNOW FROM GOING FOR SCHOOL TO VISITING SCHOOLS, UH, MOST PRINCIPALS WILL TELL, WILL TELL YOU OR OR KIND OF SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU TOURING OR, OR YOU CAN OR YOU CAN SEE IF YOU BOUGHT NEW BUSINESS, NOT OF THEM TELLING YOU, YOU CAN KIND OF SOMETIMES CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THEY ARE.

AND I'M SURE THAT WHEN STAFF GO, WHEN WHEN, UH, ROBERT AND HIS STAFF GO THERE, EXCUSE ME, MR. O AND HIS STAFF GO OUT THERE, I'M SURE THEY, THEY'RE TOLD SOME OF THE SAME THINGS.

SO I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE MORE, I THINK, I THINK IT'D JUST BE MORE, MORE IMPORTANT FOR AS THEY GET THOSE THINGS THAT GO IN, THAT THEY'RE WRITING THOSE THINGS DOWN AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THAT THEIR PRINCIPALS ARE REPORTING TO MR. GAN AND HIS STAFF WHAT THEY THINK ARE SOME OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS.

AND THOSE THINGS BE BOUGHT ALONG WITH EVERY,

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EVERY OTHER THING.

AND IT'S TREATED AS THOUGH IT IS WHATEVER IN THAT BUILDING THAT NEED TO BE FIXED VERSUS BRINGING TO US AND SAYING THAT, THAT THIS HAS PRESIDENT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE PRINCIPAL WANTS.

I I THINK IT SHOULD GO ON THE, ON THE LIST.

CAUSE I'VE BEEN OPERATIONS, I'VE BEEN DOING OPERATIONS PROBABLY ABOUT THREE, THREE, ABOUT FOUR YEARS HERE.

AND I'VE STILL COME TO OPERATIONS MEETINGS.

HE'S NOT BEEN ON OPERATIONS AND, AND THAT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT.

MY FIRST YEARS HERE, DAVID AND, AND, UM, JOHN DOLLY WERE KIND OF VERY, THIS WAS A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT THAT TIME TOO, AS WELL AS OF THINGS THAT THEY WERE BRINGING IN OR THINGS THAT THEY WOULD PUSH THERE THAT THEY WOULD FEEL THE STAFF THAT WOULD BEEN PUSHED OFF ON THEM FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND SO MY, MY, ONE OF MY SUGGESTIONS IS MOVING FORWARD THAT THAT'S JUST STUFF THAT, THAT WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE BEING GIVEN, THAT'S PUT ON THE LIST AS NO OTHER ACTUAL BUY AS AN EMERGENCY, BUT IT, THEY CAN LOT FC OBVIOUSLY WHATEVER THAT STAFF IS, WHATEVER THAT GROUP IS TO GO THROUGH AND EVALUATE LIKE ANY, ANY OTHER THING ELSE THAT NEEDS, THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD.

I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE MIDDLE, THE MIDDLE, MIDDLE GROUND FOR THAT.

I MEAN, SO THAT YOU ARE ASSESSING AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING FORWARD AND SEEING IN RELATION TO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITHIN 8% PROJECT.

UH, WHENS THAT FALL DOWN ON THAT LIST? I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE MEDIUM.

I MEAN THAT, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST MY TAKE ON IT FROM VISITING TO THEM, FROM VISITING THE BUILDINGS AND LISTENING.

THEY BRING STUFF TO ME AS WELL.

A BOARD MEMBER, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THIS THING THAT WE SEE, OR THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE BUILDING THAT YOU SEE OUR WALK BUILDING.

I SEE, I SEE.

IF IT'S ALREADY DOWN, OBVIOUSLY WATERFALL THROUGH THE FLOORS, UH, ITS FULL, FULL OF WATER.

SO I, I GET IT TO THEM.

THAT'S AN EMERGENCY.

BUT IS IT, IS IT A DISTRICT EMERGENCY? IS IT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO 8% MONEY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW? SO, AND, AND, AND THAT I THINK IS, IS WHAT THE FCC WHAT WHAT STAFF WAS YOUR STAFF NEEDS TO BRING TO US AND LET US KNOW WHEN DO IT FALLS ON, ON LIST FROM ONE TO 10 NEED TO BE DONE.

THAT THERE IF I CAN, I MEAN I'M HEARING UM, PRETTY, UH, THAT YOU WANT THE, TO DRIVE THE 8% THAT ANYTHING ON THE PRINCIPAL REQUEST, UM, I GUESS USE THE WORD DOWNPLAYED OR NEEDS TO BE POINTED OUT.

AND WE DID NOT HAVE THE SCA LAST YEAR.

MY PLAN FOR THE 8% IS KIND OF HOW WE DID IT THIS YEAR.

WE'RE STILL GOING TO DEVELOP THE CATEGORIES.

WE'RE STILL GONNA DEVELOP A PROJECT LIST THAT FORMS THOSE CATEGORIES, GIVES YOU THOSE NUMBERS.

SO THERE IS GOING TO BE THAT SAME DETAILED PROJECT LIST TO DEVELOP THE CATEGORIES AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BRING AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION OVER WHAT OF THOSE SMALLER ITEMS REALLY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

UM, AND WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THOSE THAT ARE PRINCIPAL REQUESTS AND I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT NAME SOMETHING ELSE.

UM, WELL NO, BECAUSE WE, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PERSONAL NO, NO, I'M NOT SAYING, I MEAN IT JUST, THERE'S SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE SOME OTHER, IT HAS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION IN JUST THE NAME.

I THINK THAT IT'D BE BETTER IF I GAVE IT A DIFFERENT NAME, WHICH I'LL THINK ABOUT BETWEEN NOW, NEXT YEAR.

BUT WE'LL POINT THOSE OUT.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE FCA NEEDS TO HAVE THE PRIORITY THAT NEEDS TO DRIVE THE BULK OF MONEY.

BUT LET'S SAY THAT THERE'S A, WOULD NEED TO POINT OUT THE ONES THAT ARE PRINCIPAL REQUEST AND WHY THEY HAVE RISEN TO THE LEVEL OF MAKING THE LIST THAT PAS DONE EVERY, HOW, HOW WE HAD 10 YEARS.

10 YEARS.

SO IT WAS A 600,000.

YEAH, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT EVERY YEAR.

WE'RE NOT DO IT, BUT EVERY FIVE TO MAYBE 10 YEARS.

AND SO I ABSOLUTELY THINK, I MEAN THAT WAS AN ASSESSMENT CONDUCTED BY PROFESSIONALS THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY DO, RIGHT? I MEAN THAT'S THAT WE HAVE TO USE THAT CRITERIA FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 8%.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN ITS COMPLETE STAGE LAST YEAR AND HAVE IT, RIGHT.

SO I MEAN THIS YEAR IT'S GOING TO DRIVE THE CONVERSATION.

WELL SURE, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME PRINCIPAL REQUESTS OR IT'S, FIND ANOTHER TERM, BUT A SCHOOL IMPROVEMENTS ITEM BUILDING NEEDS.

YEAH.

THAT, UM, MAKES IT TO THE TOP AS WELL.

AND I DO STILL NEED TRY TO, UM, FOR MY OWN USE, UM, CATEGOR TAKE THE REQUEST AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE CONSIDERED.

NOW WE MAY DECIDE THEY DON'T MAKE IT TO THE FINAL CUT OR EVEN THE, THE BEGINNING CUTS, BUT I NEED TO TRACK IT AND MAKE SURE I HEARD THE PRINTS, THE SCHOOLS THAT THEY HAVE, THEY THINK THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT AND WE AS A STAFF ON OUR LEVEL, WE DECIDE WHETHER IT MAKES IT TO Y'ALL'S LEVEL TO BE, YOU SEE THE ENTIRE LIST OF WHETHER IT'S ONE WE'RE SAYING WE THINK THESE SHOULD BE LOOKED AT FOR THAT 25 AND EIGHT BECAUSE IT IS A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR EVERY E ESSENTIALLY.

RIGHT.

SO I THINK WHAT, THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME CUZ I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS

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THE, THE BIG CHUNK OF THE MONEY IS GONNA GO TO WHAT THE FCAS ALREADY DICTATED AT A NECESSITY, RIGHT? I THINK ONE THING THAT'S CRITICAL IS HAVING THOSE CATEGORIES, RIGHT? SAFETY, SECURITY, ASSET PROTECTION, ET CETERA.

UM, SO THAT, AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK, I THINK IT'S A, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW EXACTLY TO PUT IT.

IT JUST SEEMED LIKE A, LIKE A FOOL'S ERRAND TO TRY AND GO THROUGH AS AN ELECTED BOARD MEMBER WHO'S NOT AN ENGINEER, CONSTRUCTION PERSON, EVERY SINGLE ITEM.

SO I'M, I REALLY WANT THECA TO DRIVE IT.

ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK WE NEED, I THINK THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES HAVE A ROLE IN DETERMINING THE LEFTOVER MONEY WHO GETS THE, THE UPGRADES AND THE WANTS, RIGHT? SO EXPLAINING WHY THEY'RE ON THE LIST, FULL TRANSPARENCY AND ALLOWING THE BOARD TO BASICALLY CLEAR OFF ALL THE STUFF THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE.

CUZ THAT'S WHAT THE FCA OR SAFETY AND SECURITY SAYS WE NEED TO GET DONE.

IF THERE IS MONEY LEFT OVER AND I, I IMAGINE THERE'LL BE SOME YEARS THERE WILL NOT BE MONEY LEFT OVER, YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE CAN GET THAT, UH, 25 MILLION CAP UP.

UH, AND WE WANNA DO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MORE, UH, NOT AS MUCH A NECESSITY THAT THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE GET TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, FOR TRANSPARENCY AND THEN ALSO FROM A POLITICAL STANDPOINT, UM, TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF HOW WE'RE ALLOCATING MONEY WITHIN THE DISTRICT I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR ME.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING FROM YOU.

ALTHOUGH I MAY BE HEARING WHAT I WANNA HEAR, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD WORK FOR ME FOR SURE.

AND AND ALSO WAS TRYING TO YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO SAY, I MEAN ESSENTIALLY IT'S STILL, WELL, WE'LL BOIL DOWN TO HOW EFFECTIVE THAT PRINCIPAL'S REQUEST LIST IS IN THE LONG TERM BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING DONE FROM THAT LIST, THEN WHY HABITS? AND IF YOU ONLY GOING TO GET 2% OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY WRITE DOWN THAT THEY NEED DONE, THEN REALLY YOU NEED TO FIND ANOTHER VEHICLE.

WELL, AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU GET ON THE LIST AND THEN THE PRINCIPAL CHANGES, RIGHT? AND THAT NEW PRINCIPLE THAT'S THE OTHER ARE DIFFERENT TOO.

BUT BOTTOM MINE IS, I THINK YOUR FUNDING RESOURCE OR YOUR, YOUR DOLLARS TO WORK WITH IS, IS ESSENTIAL IN TERMS OF ALL OF THAT.

I DON'T THINK YOU, YOU GOT A CHOICE WHEN THE FCAS GONNA OVERRIDE EVERYTHING ON THOSE, ON THAT LIST BECAUSE NEEDS THIS WANTS, THIS NEEDS GONNA, TRUMP WANTS ALL THE TIME.

WELL, AND WE'RE GONNA GET TO THE POINT HOPEFULLY THAT ANY NEW BUILDINGS WON'T BE BUILT OUT AN 8% FUNDS, WHICH WILL, YOU KNOW, WHICH SET US BACK YEARS AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE.

UM, HOPEFULLY, AND, AND I CAN'T RECALL, BUT TECHNOLOGY HAS THAT BEEN MOVED OUT AT 8%.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT, RIGHT? SO YOU'VE GOT THESE TECHNOLOGY FOR 8% NOW YOU MAY POD OR ANOTHER EXACTLY IT MR. CAMPBELL IS SAYING MAYBE THERE'S THIS POT OF, YOU KNOW, 8% TECHNOLOGY OVER HERE, THEN 8% THAT'S STILL 25 MILLION FOR MAINTENANCE AND ASSET PRESERVATION, SO ON.

SO I THINK SOME OF THOSE THINGS HAVE ABSOLUTELY EVEN MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT, HAVEN'T CHANGED THE CAP TO FROM 20 MILLION FOR 10 TO 11 YEARS, EVERYTHING'S COMING OUTTA THERE.

NO WONDER WE HAVE THIS VAST NEED, UH, BASED ON THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT SHOWED THESE VAST NEEDS FOR ROOFS AND AIR CONDITIONERS AND FLOORING, YOU KNOW, BASICS.

SO, SO WILLIAM AND INGRID, THAT'S THOSE THINGS, DIALOGUE WITH DR, RIGHT? IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOOD IN THE KITCHEN, WHAT WE DOING.

YEAH, AND I AGREE MISS VIRI, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A GOOD PERIOD ON IT.

I JUST, I THINK WE, WE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF REFINING THE 8% PROCESS AND, AND DOING BETTER WITH IT THAN WE'VE BEEN DOING.

SO, UM, AND I THINK WE'RE REALLY GONNA BE GREATLY BENEFITED BY THE FCA AND, AND FUNDAMENTALLY TO MR. CAMPBELL'S POINT, THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM IS $25 MILLION, 35 BUILDINGS, THEY'RE ALL OLD.

WE LIVE IN A COASTAL ZONE WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WEAR AND TEAR.

I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE A CONSTANT STRUGGLE.

SO, MR OH, SORRY GONNA SAY ALSO WITHIN THAT I DO SAY THAT, UM, ALONG THE WAY I, I DO VALUE WHAT ADMINISTRATORS SAY IN THEIR BUILDING AND I, I DON'T WANT TO COME ACROSS AS THAT WE DON'T VALUE BECAUSE LIKE HE, LIKE HE JUST SAID SOMETHING LIKE, UM, MR. ODEN JUST SAID, SOMETIMES THEY DO SEE THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL THAT SOMEONE MAY HAVE NOT SEEN.

SO AS, AS, AS FROM TIME TIME WHEN WE DO THE BUILDINGS, I SOMETIMES SOME PRINCIPALS DO GO OVER THINGS THAT MAY BE IMPORTANT AND I MAY ASK ANYTHING HOW THE BUILDING, HOW THE BUILDING HOLDING UP.

SO AND SO

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I WOULD CONTINUOUSLY WOULD WANT TO KNOW AS REPRESENTATIVE IN TERMS OF BUILDING THAT I REPRESENTING OR OR BUILDING THAT I REPRESENT THAT I WOULD WANNA KNOW WHAT ONE OF THE ADMINISTRATORS THAT ARE IN AN AREA, WHAT DO THEY SEE, WHAT DO THEY SEE AS AN IMPORTANCE IN TERMS OF THAT BUILDING TOO.

SO I, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WAS GONNA CHANGE THAT, UH, THAT, BECAUSE THAT TO ME, IT DOESN'T EVEN CHANGE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE CONVERSATION.

I THINK SOMETIMES THE WAY IT'S HANDLED IS MORE TO ME IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.

AND I, AND AND I I SAY I THINK THAT'S MORE OF THE NEGATIVE WEIGHT BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY MAY GO AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PRINCIPALS AND PRINCIPALS MAY TAKE IT AS IN I WAS TOLD THAT THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN.

SO NOT IT'S A, IT BECOME A, A TUG OF WAR AND IT JUST NEEDS TO BE SAID, OKAY, WELL OKAY THIS IS WHAT ON THE LIST AND FROM THE PRINCIPAL'S POINT OF VIEW AND THAT'S WAY IT STANDS AND SO THEREFORE THAT CREATE A TYPE AWARD.

BUT I I, I DO, I DO WANNA SAY THAT I DO, I I I DO HONOR WHAT PRINCIPALS SAY AND WHAT THEY SEE IN THEIR BUILDING THAT NEEDS TO, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

BUT THEY SHOULD ON THE LIST WITH EVERYTHING ELSE ALONG WITH THE OTHER HUNDRED AND OTHER 200,000 THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND IT, IT SHOULD BE WAIVED AS OF NEED VERSUS ONCE.

SO I, I MEAN, AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST MY, MY POINT OF VIEW AND I HOPE THIS NAME DON'T CHANGE BECAUSE I DO WANNA KNOW WHAT PRINCIPAL ELEMENT MIDDLE SCHOOL HAVE GOING ON.

WHAT, WHAT THE PRINCIPAL AT, UH, LAID ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PRINCIPAL AT HIGH SCHOOL AT BAT CREEK.

I WANNA KNOW WHAT WHAT, WHAT THEIR WANTS ARE AS WELL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WORK AT.

IF I CAN JUST ADD ONE THING, I MEAN YOU BRING UP A REALLY GOOD POINT CUZ ONE OF OUR STRUGGLES IS THAT PRINCIPALS, A LOT OF TIMES ONCE THEY GIVE US THIS LIST, THEY JUST THINK IT'S GONNA BE DONE.

AND WE, WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY COMMUNICATE TO THEM, NO, THIS MEANS IT'S A CONSIDERATION.

WE'LL DECIDE IN THE MAY, WE'LL REVIEW IT, THE BOARDS, THERE'S A PROCESS AS PART OF THIS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORK A LITTLE BETTER ON.

MAKE SURE THEY GET THAT UNDERSTANDING AND JUST CUZ THEY ASK FOR IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY GET IT BECAUSE THERE IS THAT ASSUMPTION OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY PRINCIPLES THAT'S FOR US TO TAKE ON.

ALL RIGHT, WELL I THINK THAT I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION AND THE INPUT FROM EVERYBODY.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT JUST, UM, I WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON AS WE GO FORWARD ON THIS 8%, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

UM, SO THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, WE HAVE COMING OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE TODAY, WE HAVE TWO MORE MEETINGS, UH, OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE, UH, THE COMMUNICATION OE NEXT WEEK.

UM, ROBIN, I DON'T HAVE MY, FOR SOME REASON MY CALENDAR'S NOT PULLING UP, BUT I WHAT TIME DO WE DECIDE ON, THAT'S ON MONDAY, RIGHT? YES.

LOOK AT, I THINK HOLD ON.

MONDAY, DECEMBER 5TH.

IT'S A TOTAL IT'S OWN ZOOM MEETING.

YEAH, WELL I'M GONNA BE RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND THAT SHOULD BE THAT, THAT'S JUST GOING OVER THE COMMUNICATION OE AND THE 14TH.

WE HAVE ANOTHER HR KIND OF FOCUSED OE IS OR UH, MEETING, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, WE CAN PUT UP FUTURE TOPICS AT THIS POINT, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT ENOUGH GOING THROUGH INTO JANUARY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE A NEW COMMITTEE.

SO, UM, IF THERE'S ANY FUTURE TOPICS, SPEAK NOW OR WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR.

CAN I REQUEST THE CONSTRUCTION UPDATE FOR THE DECEMBER 14TH MEETING? JUST BECAUSE YEAH, THOSE, THOSE, UH, AND, AND IS THAT IN ADVANCE OF THE, UM, CLOCK MEETING? CORRECT? YES, THAT'S, THAT WOULD GO ON THERE AUTOMATICALLY CUZ YOU PRESENTED EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT OF THESE NEXT TWO MEETINGS WILL GO FOR THE DECEMBER 13TH MEETING.

BELIEVE THAT, IS THAT THE SECOND WEDNESDAY? THE CLOCK MEETING ACTUALLY I GUESS THE THIRD.

CAUSE WEDNESDAYS, NO, NO, IT'S THE SECOND RIGHT? WEDNESDAY.

THE FIRST IS THE THURSDAY, RIGHT.

SO THESE TWO MEETINGS WOULD GO ON THE DECEMBER 13TH MEETING.

YEAH.

SO THE CLOCK MEETING WILL BE THAT SAME DAY.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THE CLOCK MEETING AT HILL HEAD MIDDLE SCHOOL, BUT YOU'RE DOING HR FOCUS HERE.

I THINK YOU'RE GONNA DO YOUR MEETING HERE.

YES.

UM, WELL WE DON'T HAVE TO, I MEAN MEL AND I ARE ON YES, WE DO .

I CAN ZOOM IN.

WELL, ALL WE HAVE IS A CONSTRUCTION UPDATE.

WE MAY ZOOM IN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.

FAIR ENOUGH.

SO THINK I'LL OF TOPICS.

OKAY.

UM, TO TODAY, UM, I THINK THAT ONE THING THAT THAT, THAT WE CAME ACROSS IS, UH, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT, UM, WHAT MAINTENANCE IS BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR.

SO I I THINK THAT AND WHEN, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW,

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HOW DOES THAT WORK? AND YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING ALMOST ALMOST SLASH HOW PART OF A TASK ANALYSIS UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR, UH, IN TERMS OF SERVICES.

I MAKE THIS AS WELL AS, AS WELL AS CUSTODIANS.

I, I THINK THAT THAT, UM, THAT'S THE FUTURE TOPIC SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND VERSUS IN HOUSE VERSUS OUTHOUSE AS WELL.

OKAY.

WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE LIST.

NOW WE, OKAY.

UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IN-HOUSE, OUT, OUT, ACTUALLY THE FIRST PART IS LET'S UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO DO AND WHEN, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? OKAY.

YEAH, LET'S START WITH THAT CUZ I CAN PRESENT, WE CAN PRESENT ON THAT.

UM, FOR THE MOST PART IN MY MIND, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A, A DEEP DIVE INTO THEIR CONTRACT.

WHAT DOES THEIR CONTRACT HAVE THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR? BOTH GROUPS AND CUD.

YES.

AND I THINK THAT'LL HAVE TO GO ON THE JANUARY MEETING.

NO PROBLEM.

YEAH, I I, I I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

OKAY.

GOT THAT DUALLY NOTED.

ALL RIGHT, SO OUT OF THIS WE HAVE THE, UH, MOTION TO, UH, FOR ACCEPTANCE OF OH 15 AND THE QUARTERLY FOIA REPORT, OE 16.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP OUR MEETING, RIGHT? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MOVE TO ADJOURN? MOVE TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVED.

HI EVERYBODY.

BYE.

NEED TO GIVE YOU A CALL IN A FEW MINUTES.