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CLOSE CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BEFOR COUNTY AT THE APPOINTED HOUR.
CALL THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.
UM, WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS A NATION UNDER INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY.
UH, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT? YES, SIR.
UH, MAY I ASK YOU TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLE YAMIN? MR. ZO? HERE.
UM, DOES UH, STAFF HAVE ANY, UH, CHANGES OR ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA? NO.
UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE TODAY'S AGENDA? SO MOVED.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? UNANIMOUS.
UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETING OF OCTOBER 19TH.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE PREVIOUS MINUTES? OKAY.
MR. SIBO AND MR. O'NEILL, AND, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR APPROVING THE MINUTES OF LAST MEETING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AGAIN.
APPEARANCE BY CITIZENS, UM, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY APPEARANCES OF, OF BY CITIZENS? UH, YASMIN, ANYBODY SIGNED UP OR ANYBODY WANT TO RAISE THEIR HAND AND BE ACKNOWLEDGED? UH, NO, SIR.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OF THOSE.
UH, WE HAVE NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS BEFORE, SO WE'LL MOVE INTO NEW BUSINESS.
WE'RE CONSIDERING S T DV 0 0 2 1 9 0 DASH 2 0 2 A REQUEST FROM NADINE CHAP, UH, OWNER OF R 5 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 3, 0 D ZERO TO, TO RENAME.
THAT IS TO RENAME AN ACCESS EASEMENT OFF SPANISH BALLS ROAD.
UH, THERE ARE NO OTHER AFFECTED PARTIES.
YOU HAD, YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT? THANK YES.
UM, JOTA FI, FIRE MARSHAL, UH, THIS WAS A, WHAT WE PRESENTED LAST, UH, PLANNING, COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, AND IT WAS PREVIOUSLY NA DEAN'S MANOR.
UM, BUT WE WERE ASKED TO CONSULT WITH THE FAMILY OF THE PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY AND WITH MRS. CHAPLIN AND TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT NAME THAT WAS, UH, MORE INDICATIVE OF THE AREA.
SO, UH, WE DID THAT AND THEY AGREED TO USE CRAFTSMAN MANNER.
UH, WE RECOMMEND THAT PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE APPLICATION BASED ON THE REVIEW CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE LAY MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
IT IS OFF OF SPANISH WELLS ROAD.
IT IS SUBMITTED TO HAVE FOUR DWELLING UNITS ON IT, BUT IT, UH, IS ZONED AND CAN ACCOMMODATE UP TO NINE DWELLING UNITS.
THIS IS WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS RIGHT NOW FOR THE, THE FIRST FOUR HOMES TO GO ON IT.
AND THEN I WILL JUST GO THROUGH THE CRITERIA PRETTY QUICKLY.
UH, THAT THE STREET NAMES ARE NOT DUPLICATED PHONETICALLY SIMILAR OR CONFUSED WITH ANY OTHER STREETS, AND THAT THE STREET NAMES, UH, THIS STREET NAME MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF CRITERIA A.
UH, CRITERIA B IS THAT IT'S SIMPLE, LOGICAL, AND EASY TO READ AND PRONOUNCE, AND IS CLEAR AND BRIEF.
IT MEETS THE CRI THIS CRITERIA, IT'S DESIRABLE TO USE NAMES THAT HAVE ASSOCIATION WITH HILTON HEAD ISLAND, SPECIFICALLY THE IMMEDIATE LOCATION.
UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE WENT BACK TO THE FAMILY THAT ORIGINALLY WAS THE LANDOWNER AND CONSULTED WITH THEM AND THE CURRENT LANDOWNER, AND THEY ARE BOTH IN AGREEMENT ON THE CHOSEN NAME.
UH, CRITERIA D IS THAT IT? UH,
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CRITERIA D IT DOESN'T APPLY BECAUSE, UM, IT, THERE'S ONLY ONE STREET AND CRITERIA E IT DOES NOT APPLY IN THIS APPLICATION EITHER CRITERIA.F UM, IT DOES NOT APPLY THIS APPLICATION.
AND THEN ALSO CRITERIA G, WHICH, UH, SPECIFIES THAT DRIVE LANE, PLACE, ROAD, STREET OR WAY.
AND THEN ALL OF THE OTHER NAME TYPES ARE USED.
UM, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A ACCESS EASEMENT, UM, IT DOES NOT MEET THAT THIS CRITERIA.
AND SO THE SUFFIX SUFFIXES MANNER TRACE IN COMMON ARE USED FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS EASEMENTS.
WE CHOSE CRAFTSMAN'S MANNER, AND SO IT MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND, UH, CRITERIA I, IT DOES NOT APPLY TO THIS APPLICATION.
SO IN SUMMARY, THE STREET NAME, IT'S EMBEDDED AND IT MEETS THE CRITERIA SET OUT IN THE LMO.
AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT.
MR. ZO, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NONE.
I HAD NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
UH, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER AFFECTED PARTIES.
IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, MAY I, UH, GET A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE PUBLIC HEARING? OH, UH, WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
WHO HAS THEIR HAND UP? SOMEBODY? NO ONE.
UH, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION.
FROM MR. PERRY, MOVED BY MR. O'NEILL.
UM, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE NAME FOR THIS.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR JUST WANNA PLEASE? I'LL RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
JOHANNA JODA, UM, OTHER COMMISSION BUSINESS.
WE HAVE THE PROPOSED MEETING SCHEDULE FOR, UH, THE, UH, NEXT YEAR FOR 23.
AND, UM, UH, HAVING PULLED THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HERE BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED, UM, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THE DECEMBER 21ST MEETING WILL NOT HAVE A QUORUM, UH, AS WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ALREADY AND POSSIBLY ONE OR TWO MORE VACANCIES BEFORE THAT, UH, DATE OF THE MEETING.
SO, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING REALLY URGENT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE DECEMBER 21 PROPOSED MEETING? ANYTHING WE CAN THINK OF THAT'S URGENT? WE HAVE SEVERAL MATTERS ALREADY PLANNED FOR THAT MEETING.
WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT OFFICE, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL.
YOU NEED TO, WE NEED TO TAKE DEFINITELY A, YOU EITHER CANCEL THAT MEETING AND WAIT FOR THEM JANUARY MEETING OR TRY TO RESCHEDULE SET MEETING.
LET'S, UH, BY SHOW OF HANDS, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN MAKE A DECEMBER 21ST MEETING SHOW, RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE.
SO I GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, FOR SURE, AND MAYBE FIVE.
UM, AND, UH, THE TROUBLE IS WE HAVE, UH, MR. ALFRED IS NOW GONNA BE TAKING HIS SEAT ON THE TOWN COUNCIL.
SO, UH, UH, HOW DO WE COUNT A QUORUM WITH, UH, ONE VACANCY ALREADY AND, UH, POSSIBLY A SECOND VACANCY BY DECEMBER, UH, 21ST.
MR. CHAIRMAN, SEAN COLE, I'D LIKE TO HELP YOU MOVE THROUGH THIS.
UH, WILL THOSE HANDS, CAN YOU RAISE 'EM AGAIN? THAT'S FOUR, FIVE AND A HALF.
SO YOU HAVE FIVE I THINK THAT ARE MAYBE AVAILABLE, RIGHT? WHAT I'M SEEING HERE? SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A QUORUM.
YOU NEED FIVE OF THE NINE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT FIVE.
IT'S NOT A MAJORITY OF SEATED, UH, COMMISSION MEMBERS.
IT'S A MAJORITY OF THE, SO WE NEED FIVE.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE FIVE, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS TUESDAY, RIGHT? UM, BUT WE, THAT'S THE CASE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE, THE MEETING SCHEDULED, RIGHT? IT SOUNDS LIKE ALAMO AMENDMENTS AND OTHERS ARE IMPORTANT.
SO YES, AS OF NOW, UNLESS WE HAVE A HEALTH ISSUE OR SOMETHING COME UP, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD WITH THE DECEMBER 21ST SCHEDULED MEETING FOR THIS YEAR, UM, ON, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE MEETING SCHEDULE FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE PROPOSED DATES OF NEXT YEAR'S MEETINGS? I SEE NONE.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THE SCHEDULE AS WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
IT WAS IN THE PACKET, UH, THE DATES WERE IN THE PACKET.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE ON THAT AS WELL FOR APPROVING OUR SCHEDULE FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, UNDER, UH, CHAIRMAN'S REPORT, UH, I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE OFFICIALLY MR. ALFRED FOR BEING ELECTED TO TOWN COUNCIL, AND WE WILL
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MISS HIS COUNCIL HERE ON THIS, UH, BODY.BUT I KNOW HE IS MOVING ON TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS.
AND, UH, I WANT TO THANK YOU, STEVE, FOR ALL YOUR HELP DURING THE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON HERE AND HIS CHAIR AS WELL.
UH, WE COMMEND YOU TO TOWN COUNCIL AND HOPE YOU'LL DO GREAT THINGS THERE AS WELL.
UM, CAN I JUST SAY A COUPLE OF SENTENCES PLEASE? UM, I HAVE ENJOYED THE TIME I'VE SPENT WITH YOU GUYS AND WITH THIS PROCESS, UH, AND OUR DISCUSSIONS, UH, AND I HAVE A, A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE MADE.
UM, BUT DON'T, DON'T FORGET THAT IT'S, AT SOME POINT I'M GONNA SEE YOUR HANDY WORK,
UH, WE GO INTO, UH, COMMITTEE REPORTS AT THIS POINT.
UH, MR. O'NEILL ON CIP COMMITTEE? YES, I, I UNDERSTAND FROM STAFF THAT WE WERE SCHEDULED IN, UH, GONNA BE SCHEDULED IN JANUARY FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND WE HAVE, UH, A LOT OF ISSUES THERE TO DEAL WITH AND HOW WE SPEND THE PEOPLE'S MONEY, UH, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, MR. CAMPBELL, ANYTHING THERE? YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING THERE FOR CONFIDENCE IN THAT.
NOTHING THERE TODAY, UH, ON THE GO GEECHEE TASK FORCE.
TOM, IS THERE ANYTHING NEW TO REPORT THERE? NO.
UH, ALAMO COMMITTEE, MR. PERRY? YEAH, WE, WE HAD A MEETING THE OTHER DAY AND, AND, UH, FOR A PROJECT THAT IS ON OFFICE PARK ROAD FOR DEMOLITION OF SOME BUILDINGS AND TO BUILD A, A HOUSING COMPLEX ALONG WITH THE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE THAT WILL BE COMING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE 21ST.
UH, RULES OF PROCEDURE IS NOTHING NEW THERE, MR. ALFRED? NO.
UM, WE'RE GO INTO STAFF REPORTS AT THIS TIME.
UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE UP, UH, SUB 0 0 1 8 60 TWIN SUBDIVISION, THE SITE PLAN REVIEW.
FOR THE RECORD, I'LL BE PRESENTING THE SITE PLAN AND, UH, BASIC SUMMARY OF THE TWIN OAK SUBDIVISION.
UM, JUST BRIEFLY INTRODUCTION, UM, ONE OF THE NEW PROCESSES THAT STAFF HAS IMPLEMENTED IS TO PRESENT NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND NEW SUBDIVISIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY.
UM, THIS WILL GIVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT AND, UM, BE ABLE TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS, UM, BEFORE THEY'RE REVIEWED BY, UH, APPROVED BY STAFF.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU ALL WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW.
THIS IS FOR, UH, TWO VACANT PARCELS, WHICH I'VE CIRCLED AND READ UP ON THE SCREEN.
TWO VACANT PARCELS LOCATED OFF JONESVILLE ROAD.
THIS IS SPANISH WELLS ROAD HERE, JONESVILLE ROAD.
AND THEN THIS IS, UM, THAT NEW SITE WHERE BAILEY'S COVE SUBDIVISION IS CURRENTLY, UM, UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SHOW YOU AN AERIAL VIEW AS WELL.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AND SEE THE VARIOUS VACANT PARCELS LOCATED ALONG JONESVILLE AND WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT HAS OCCURRED SO FAR.
THE SITE PLAN WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR, IN YOUR PACKET FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO COMBINE THE TWO PARCELS AND DEVELOP A 22 LOT SUBDIVISION.
THERE'S ENOUGH ACREAGE FOR 23 LOTS, UM, BUT THEY'RE PROPOSING 22 LOTS.
UM, SO HERE'S JONESVILLE ROAD.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED ACCESS TO THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS, AND THEN THERE ARE TWO LOTS THAT WILL BE ACCESSED OFF OF JONESVILLE ROAD.
THIS IS THE STORMWATER, UM, DETENTION POND, AND THEN THE LOTS CIRCLE AROUND THIS DRIVE HERE.
SOME OF THE, THIS HAS GONE THROUGH STAFF REVIEW TWICE NOW.
UM, STAFF HAS PROVIDED COMMENTS.
UM, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT STAFF CONTINUES TO PUSH FOR IS MORE MEANINGFUL OPEN SPACE SO THAT IT SERVES FOR, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR GATHERING AND, UM, AMENITIES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, LOOKING FOR MORE OF A CURVE LINEAR STREET WORK AROUND SOME OF THE NATURAL FEATURES ON THE SITE AND, UM, THE TREES TO PRESERVE THEM AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, UM, THE TREE PRESERVATION AND HAVE THAT AS AMENITIES TO, TO THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
UH, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT FOR MORE COMPLETE ROAD ENDS AT
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THIS T SO THAT DOESN'T LOOK SO UNFINISHED AND KIND OF LIKE JUST THE ROADS JUST STOP.SO MORE OF MAYBE A CUL-DE-SAC OR SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT LOOK MORE FINISHED AND COMPLETE.
UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS, UH, ESTIMATED HOUSING FOOTPRINTS AND DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS.
UH, WE'RE ALSO PUSHING FOR BEARING HOUSE TYPES, DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE, UM, SO THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK JUST LIKE A COOKIE CUTTER SUBDIVISION AND, AND LOOKS MORE LOW COUNTRY AND STYLE.
UM, AND WE'RE ALSO PUSHING FOR, UH, PATHWAYS INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO I WILL OPEN IT UP TO YOU ALL, UM, TO PROVIDE SOME INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON THIS.
AND THEN I KNOW THAT THERE'S MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE AS WELL THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION.
NICOLE, LET ME SAY TO THE OUTSET HERE THAT THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW THING I PROCESS IS, IN MY OPINION, HAVING BEEN TO A COUPLE OF THESE IS EXCELLENT.
AND REALLY DOES, AND I THINK THE WAY THE TA, THE STAFF OF THE TOWN, UH, INTERVIEWS THE DEVELOPERS AND ASKED THE TOUGH QUESTIONS IS A, A REALLY GOOD THING FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
AND I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR MAKING SURE THAT THAT REVIEW PROCESS CONTINUES.
AND, UH, THE ONES I'VE BEEN TO HAVE BEEN VERY INFORMATIVE, ESPECIALLY ON THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.
UM, DO, IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH, UH, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT MAY END UP IN THIS DEVELOPMENT? I MEAN, DID, HAS THE DEVELOPER GOTTEN BACK TO YOU WITH REGARD TO AMENITIES? NO.
SO WE, THAT LAST DEVELOPMENT REVIEW TEAM MEETING THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, WE PROVIDED OUR SECOND ROUND OF STAFF COMMENTS.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS NOT RESUBMITTED PLANS ADDRESSING THOSE COMMENTS YET.
THEY REQUESTED THAT THEY COME TO PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THEIR SECOND SUBMITTAL PLANS, UM, RATHER THAN, UM, TAKING STAFF'S COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION AND MAKING THOSE CHANGES FIRST.
UM, SO WHAT'S PRESENTED UP ON THE SCREEN IS THEIR SECOND SUBMITTAL NOT ADDRESSING STAFF'S LATEST ROUND OF PLANS.
SO NO STAFF DOES NOT FEEL LIKE THERE'S MEANINGFUL AMENITIES AND OPEN SPACE PROVIDED ON THIS PLAN.
THERE'S SOME SPORADIC LITTLE CORNERS OF OPEN SPACE JUST TO MEET THAT 16% REQUIREMENT.
UM, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, A REAL MEANINGFUL GATHERING SPACE TO BE USED BY THE RESIDENTS OF IS IS THE REASON FOR NOT BUILDING THE LAST LOT.
UH, IN OTHER WORDS, THERE WAS 23, THERE'S ROOM FOR 23, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA DEVELOP 2320 TWOS WITH THE NUMBER.
IS THAT SPACE GONNA BE USED FOR AMENITIES OR IS THAT WHAT THE REASON IT WAS? UH, NOT, I'M NOT SURE.
SO WHEN THEY, UM, WHEN THEY CAME IN FOR PRE-APPLICATION LAST YEAR, THE PROPOSED PLAN WAS FOR 23 LOTS.
THEY, THEY HAVE REDUCED IT BY ONE.
UM, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY.
THEY CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
UM, LET'S TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
UH, SO, UH, ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, TO THE COMMISSION ON THIS SUBJECT, UH, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
I DON'T SEE, THERE'S, NO ONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON IT BACK HERE.
I I JUST WOULD LIKE TO, WHATEVER.
PLEASE COME UP TO THE MIC AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
I LIVE ON, UH, L CREEK COVE LANE, UH, JUST DOWN THE STREET.
TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THE NUMBER OF LOTS.
UH, UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S AN RM FOUR, UH, WHICH IS FOUR LOTS PER ACRE, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS THREE AND A HALF ACRES.
AND I CAN'T SEE HOW I GET TO THE 22.
IN THE RM FOUR ZONING DISTRICT.
IF YOU HAVE THREE ACRES, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE SIX DWELLING UNITS PER PER ACRE.
IT'S 3.92 ACRES IS THE NET ACRES.
CAN YOU DEFINE NET? NET ACRES? UM, TAKES, UH, IT EXCLUDES TITLE WETLANDS.
SO THAT 3.92 ACRES IS USABLE LAND.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE, UH, PUBLIC BACK HERE? SIR, COME ON UP.
OTHER THAN THE AREA, COULD YOU SHOW ME ON THAT MAP, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SUBDIVISIONS IN PLANNING IN THAT, IN THE JONESVILLE AREA? WE'VE GOT SEVERAL.
UM, I DON'T, SO 2 34 JONESVILLE, WHICH IS DOWN HERE, IS, UM, PROPOSED TO BE SUBDIVIDED.
WE'VE GOT THE BAILEY'S COVE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS UP AT THE INTERSECTION OF JONESVILLE AND SPANISH WALLS.
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AND THEN THEY, WE'VE RECEIVED A PRE-APPLICATION, UM, FOR THE, UM, THE HORSE, THE STABLES FOR THAT SITE TO BE REDEVELOPED.BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A FORMAL APPLICATION YET ON THAT BIG AREA THERE.
HOW MANY HOMES, APARTMENTS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER.
MISSY, DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MANY HOMES IN BAILEY'S CLUB? NO, I THINK IT WAS MAYBE ONE 60 SOMETHING.
CAN WE ASK THAT TO GET A CONFIRMATION ON THAT? BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GUESSING AND THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.
SO, SO KNOWING ALL THAT, DO YOU THINK THE JONESVILLE BILL INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS TO HAND ALL THIS? ARE YOU ASKING THAT QUESTION OF ME? ANYBODY THAT WANTS AN ANSWER?
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT ADDING ALL OF THOSE NEW, MA'AM, IF YOU WANNA SPEAK, YOU CAN GET LINE F THIS GENTLEMAN.
WHAT? A HUNDRED AND 147 UNITS.
SO, SO WE GOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON THAT STREET, AND LIKE SHE SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE TAKEN A DRIVE DOWN THERE.
COME, COME TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON DOWN THERE.
UH, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T GONE DOWN THERE RECENTLY, IT LOOKS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IT DID SIX MONTHS AGO.
AND I HAVE A REAL CONCERN THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS, MEANING TRAFFIC PROBLEMS IN THE AREA.
UH, THERE'S SOME SIDE ROADS THAT POTENTIALLY SOMEDAY COULD BE OTHER WAYS IN AND OUT OF THERE, BUT END RESULT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY.
IN INFRASTRUCTURE WISE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY FOR THAT NUMBER OF, UH, UNITS COMING, THE CAR, THE TRAFFIC, ALL THAT.
WELL, SPECIFICALLY, MAY I ASK YOU, WHEN YOU SAY INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU TALKING ABOUT ROADS OR, OR WHAT OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE COMES TO MIND WHEN YOU MAINLY TRAFFIC ISSUES.
DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE THAT YOU GOT IT? ONE, ONE ROAD IN ONE ROAD OUT? THERE'S, IT'S ALREADY CLOSE TO 2 78.
IF YOU GO THERE AT FOUR 30 MOST DAYS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BACKUP TO JONESVILLE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LIKE THE LAST TWO DAYS, IT WAS BACK TO BLUE BELL.
YOU KNOW WHERE BLUE BELL IS? MM-HMM.
IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU 25 MINUTES, 30 MINUTES TO GET OUT OF THERE.
AND THEN IF YOU TRAVEL, GO AROUND AND GO UP TO THE, UH, THE, UH, EXPRESSWAY.
IT WAS BACKED UP A MILE, MILE AND A HALF LAST TWO DAYS.
SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY FOR IT.
MADAM, DO YOU WANT TO SAY IT FOR, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL SAYING THE SAME.
WELL, PLEASE COME UP AND IDENTIFY YOURSELVES.
UM, I THINK EVERYONE THAT LIVES ON JONESVILLE ROAD IS, WE ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT JONESVILLE ROAD CAN HANDLE ALL OF THESE NEW HOMES THAT ARE BEING PUT HERE.
UM, AND YOU GUYS, THE TOWN HAS BEEN GREAT WITH US.
THEY CONTINUALLY MEET WITH US, BUT THEY KEEP SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND THEY DON'T REALLY LISTEN TO ANYTHING THAT WE'RE SAYING.
UM, THEY'RE SAYING THAT BAILEY'S COVE VILLAGE PARK SAID THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS NO PROBLEM TO 146 HOMES.
AND MAYBE THAT'S THE CASE, BUT NOW WE HAVE MORE AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE MORE.
AND THEN THE STABLES AND THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S NOT, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE BIKE PATHS.
SO REALISTICALLY, WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE A BIKE PATH IN 2023, BUT WE ARE GONNA SEE 146 NEW HOMES.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT BAILEY'S COVE, THERE'S FIVE EXITS, AN ENTRANCES, SO THAT'S INSANE.
THERE'S GONNA BE ALL THOSE CARS COMING AND GOING ON THAT CORNER CUZ MR. HINES, YOU JUST SAW THAT AWESOME CORNER THAT WE HAVE.
ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE WALKING WITH THEIR KIDS IN THE ROAD TO GO TO THE POOL, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
AND YOU LIKE, I, IT'S SURPRISING THAT THE TOWN DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE SAFETY.
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE, WE HAD RUN OVER ON HILTON HEAD THIS WEEK KIND OF A LOT.
AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE GONNA BE LIKE FAMILIES WALKING ON THE ROAD AND YOU,
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AND, AND THEN THEY SAY, THE TOWN KEEPS SAYING, WELL, WE'LL REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT AND WE'LL PUT SPEED BUMPS.I'M LIKE, WELL NOW YOU'RE GONNA PUNISH US LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON JONESVILLE.
WE'RE GONNA GET PUNISHED BY HAVING SPEED BUMPS AND THE THAT'S NOT GONNA HELP.
PEOPLE ARE STILL GONNA GO THE SAME SPEED IT NEEDS.
WE NEED BIKE PATHS, WE NEED TURN LANES.
WE NEED SOME THOUGHT TO SAY LIKE, CAN WE DUMP THAT MANY MORE PEOPLE OUT ONTO SPANISH WELLS, WHICH IS ALREADY PUSHING CAPACITY WAYS NOW TAKES EVERY TOURIST MM-HMM.
DO YOU EVER NOTICE THAT TOO? LIKE IF YOU PULL UP WAYS IT TAKES 'EM DOWN SPANISH WELLS.
SO I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND THINK ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE AND THINK ABOUT THE SAFETY.
I I, WE WOULD LOVE IT IF THE HOUSES WEREN'T GONNA BE BUILT, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT CAN'T STOP.
BUT WE COULD MAYBE TRY TO MAKE IT A SAFER PLACE TO LIVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THOUGH, THAT LAST YEAR, THIS PLANNING COMMISSION DID APPROVE THE, UH, BIKE PATH, UH, FOR SAFETY REASONS ALONG THAT ROAD, SO PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE TO WALK DOWN THE STREET.
AND IT'S BEEN PLACED AS A PRIORITY ON OUR CIP CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR'S, UH, APPROVAL AND FUNDING.
UH, WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WOULD BE, UH, A PRIORITY THAT THAT STAYS.
SIR, YOU HAD A, YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS THIS.
MY NAME IS BOBBY, RAN NOT LIVE ON JONESVILLE ROAD.
I READ IN THE NEWSPAPER WHERE THE COUNTY QUOTE TOOK OVER THE MAINTENANCE OF A PRIVATE ROAD.
AND I'M ASKING, UH, WHY COULD NOT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN WITH MILLER ROAD, WHICH WOULD GIVE US ANOTHER IN AND OUT? WHY, WHY CAN'T THAT HAPPEN HERE? WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT.
I MEAN, UH, AT MILLER IS AN OFFSHOOT OFF JONESVILLE, I THINK I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE STREET.
IT CONNECTS, IT CONNECTS JONESVILLE TO SPANISH WELLS ROAD.
IT'S THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
I THINK IT'S NOT APPROVED RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT A PRIVATE ROAD? IT IS.
THAT ONE, SOMETHING COULD BE DONE LIKE THAT ON THAT ROAD THAT WOULD ELIMINATE MM-HMM.
I SEE ON THE OTHER HAND BACK HERE.
HI, UH, MY NAME'S STEVE CLARK.
I LIVE IN WALKING HORSE ADJACENT TO THE NEW, UH, TWIN OAKS.
UM, THERE WAS RUMOR THAT THEY WERE GONNA TRY TO CUT WALKING HORSE OVER INTO TWIN OAKS AREA.
IS THAT AN ABSOLUTE NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
THIS IS WALKING HORSE RIGHT HERE.
I DON'T SEE ANY PROPOSED CONNECTION AND THAT LITTLE, WHAT IS THAT? JUST AN EASEMENT.
THE WHY IS IT SEPARATED? THOSE TWO LOTS SEPARATED LIKE THAT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE WHERE LOOKS LIKE IT'S PLANNED OPEN SPACE.
UM, BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
NICOLE, CAN YOU PULL UP THE, THE, THE BUFFER, THE LANDSCAPING BUFFER THAT SHOWS THAT THERE'S A BARRIER BETWEEN THE TWO? YEAH.
SO THERE'S BUFFER LOOK LIKE IT'S A UTILITY EASEMENT, BUT NOT FOR ACCESS.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING TOO IS THAT, I MEAN, THEY, EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS SAME THING, JONESVILLE ROAD, UM, IT'S A NICE STREET AND ALL THESE CARS ARE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE FEASIBLE.
UM, THE ONLY SUGGESTION I COULD MAKE IF YOU CAN'T MAKE MILLER A HARD TOP OF FIRE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO COME IN AND OUT, IF IT CAN'T BE DONE TO AT LEAST LOOK AT THAT AS MAYBE AN ALTERNATE BIKE LANE WALKING PATH.
SO AT LEAST YOU CAN WALK UP JONES FROM MY HOUSE.
I COULD WALK UP JONESVILLE ROAD AND TAKE A RIGHT ON MILLER AND THAT WOULD TAKE ME OUT TO SPANISH WELLS WHERE THERE'S BETTER BIKE LANES AND WALKING LANES MM-HMM.
AND IT WOULD BE SAFER THAN GOING AROUND THOSE CURVES.
UM, AND, AND I THINK THE NICE LADY BACK HERE WAS REFERRING TO THE, THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT THAT'S UNDERWAY.
PHASE TWO IS GONNA BE ACROSS SPANISH WELLS ROAD IS WHAT SHE WAS REFERRING TO.
SO THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ACROSS SPANISH WELLS ROAD HAVE TO CROSS BACK OVER TO GET TO THEIR POOL AND THEIR COMMUNITY CENTER AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE A GOOD THING.
SO MAYBE MILLER WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION FOR THEM TO WALK DOWN THAT WAY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.
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COMMENTS, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? I WILL GO AROUND THE, UH, ROOM HERE.UH, ANY, UH, THOUGHTS, UH, ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY AND WHAT WAS IN THE, UH, PROTOCOLS WHERE PEOPLE COULD TYPE IN THINGS? OH, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS, PLEASE, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU, IF YOU INDULGE ME JUST, UH, SURE.
FOR A MOMENT, I WANTED TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH THE COMMISSION AND THE, AND THE MEMBERS HERE AND THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING.
SO THE TOWN IS, UM, WILL EXECUTE A JOB ORDER NEXT WEEK TO, TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSESSMENT OF THE GREATER JONESVILLE AREA.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND ONE WAS DONE FOR THE BAILEY'S COVE HAD A RECOMMENDATION RELATED TO THE, UM, JONESVILLE SPANISH WELL INTERSECTION.
WHEN YOU SAY GREATER JONESVILLE AREA, CAN YOU, IT'LL BE ALL THE WAY DOWN JONESVILLE ROAD.
IT'LL GO SPANISH WELLS UP TO THE SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION AT 2 78 AND THEN, UM, DOWN SPANISH WELLS ROAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, UM, UH, TOWARD MARSHALL ROAD, THAT SECTION THERE.
SO IT'LL, UM, SO THE GREATER JONESVILLE AREA, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE A MAP THAT, THAT DESCRIBES THAT EXECUTE A CONTRACT, UM, A JOB ORDER NEXT WEEK TO HAVE THAT DONE.
UM, THE COUNTY'S CURRENTLY ENGAGING IN, UM, AN ENGINEER TO DO A TRAFFIC CALMING EVALUATION BASED ON MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSESSMENT, IF THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT EMERGE FROM THE ASSESSMENT, WE'LL WORK WITH BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY ON, UM, IMPROVEMENTS, WHETHER THEY'RE PART OF THE C I P, UM, OR WE'LL WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER, UM, AS NEEDED AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS ALONG THAT STRETCH.
UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE SEEING ON JONESVILLE IS A PRODUCT OF THE CURRENT ENTITLEMENTS IN THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
THE, THE WAY THAT RM FOUR IS CURRENTLY, UM, DESCRIBED FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT, IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN THREE ACRES, YOU CAN DO FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.
IF YOU'RE BETWEEN THREE AND FIVE, YOU CAN DO SIX UNITS PER ACRE.
AND IF YOU HAVE FIVE ACRES OR MORE, YOU CAN DO EIGHT UNITS AN ACRE.
NOW, I WILL SAY THAT MOST DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY BUY A PROPERTY, THEY LOOK AT THE MAXIMUM DENSITY AND TRY TO GET THE MAXIMUM YIELD WHILE ALSO PROVIDING THE MINIMUM SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WAS SET BACK BUFFER PARKING AND PERVIOUS.
SO THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ARE TO PUSH FOR BETTER DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT.
VALUE ADDED DEVELOPING COMMUNITIES.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS AND THE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ACTIVE IN OUR SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU.
WE SEE A PLAN, WE'D LIKE TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS MADE, WE'RE SHARING THIS, HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL INPUT, UM, FOR COMMENTS AND HOPEFULLY CONSIDERATION OF PROVISIONS BY THE APPLICANT TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
AND I, AND I WOULD AGREE, THE AMENITY SECTION AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION PLAN, IN MY OPINION, IS LACKING.
THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A BETTER SUBDIVISION LAYOUT AND NOT THE BLACK AND WHITE ON THE, ON THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, BUT THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, I THINK WE'RE WITHIN OUR RIGHTS IN THE, IN THE LAND MANAGE BOARDS TO, FOR THESE THINGS.
BUT I DID WANNA LET THE COMMISSION KNOW WE ARE ENGAGED ON THIS GREATER TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSESSMENT.
THIS, THIS IS LIKELY ANOTHER DISTRICT THAT WILL EVALUATE LIKE MID ISLAND TO HELP CALIBRATE THE DEVELOPMENT LEVEL INTENSITIES THAT ARE ALLOWED, UM, AND MAKE CHANGES TO THE CODE THAT ARE NECESSARY TO, TO, TO MITIGATE OR MEDIATE SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.
UM, WE ALWAYS SAY WE CAN'T PAVE OUR WAY OUT OF OVERDEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE.
IF IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED, WE'LL WE'LL CHART A PATH FORWARD ON HOW TO DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT ALSO ON THE OTHER END, LOOK AT WAYS TO, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE ENTITLEMENTS ALONG THE STRETCH AREN'T IN KEEPING WITH THE ABILITY FOR THIS HANDLE I AREA TO HANDLE GROWTH, UM, AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN THE COMMISSION KNOW.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CODE CHANGES, WHAT TYPE OF ELEMENTS WOULD BE WITHIN THOSE CODE CHANGES THAT COULD BE EFFECTIVE BY THESE STUDIES? WELL, I'LL USE THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT AS AN EXAMPLE, RATHER THAN TO HAVE THE SLIDING SCALE OF DENSITY.
IT'S A MORE UNIFORM, UM, YEAH.
NUMBER THAT WILL COME OUT OF THAT.
MORE ALONG THE LINES OF, UM, SAFETY AND SECURITY, HOW THAT, THAT FALLS INTO PLAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, FROM A FIRE, YOU KNOW, STANDARD, WHAT IS THE SERVICING ASPECT, UM, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ON JONESVILLE ROAD, WHAT ELSE HAS TO BE DONE? WHAT ELSE HAS TO COME IN, WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED? UM, AND I WOULD IMAGINE SOME OF THOSE THINGS WOULD FOLLOW WITHIN A STUDY AND, AND AFFECT THE CODES.
AND IT COULD BE THAT THE RESULT OF THE EVALUATION HERE AND THE STUDY IS THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE MUCH LOWER FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT.
WHETHER, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A NEW DISTRICT OR, OR CAN FIT WITHIN ARE
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REDEFINED EXISTING DISTRICT.UM, BUT THAT'S PART OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE EVALUATION.
UM, AND, AND BASED ON THAT APPROPRIATE CODE CHANGES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMEND A COUNCIL.
SO, UM, LET ME ASK, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN'S SUGGESTION ABOUT THE MILLER ROAD? UH, WHAT COULD BE DONE THERE TO PROVIDE ANOTHER AREA OF ACCESS AND EGRESS? IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, CAN CONSIDER.
UM, AGAIN, A LOT OF THE, THE, THE GENTLEMAN MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT A LOT OF TIMES THE COUNTY OR OR MISS POUTS TAKEOVER ROADS.
UM, AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY DO, IF IT'S PART OF A DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS PUBLIC STREETS, UM, THIS IS A PRIVATELY OWNED, UM, UNAPPROVED ROADWAY.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T LOOK AT IT AS AN OPTION.
IT'S PART OF WHAT WE WILL ASSESS THROUGH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AND SEE IF THIS, IF THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION FOR CONSIDERATION OF BRINGING INTO THE TOWN OR THE COUNTY NETWORK.
UM, TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC ACCESS TO ADDRESS SOME, SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES.
HAVE Y'ALL GOTTEN IN TOUCH WITH THE OWNER OF MILLER ROAD? PARDON ME? HAVE YOU GOTTEN IN TOUCH WITH THE OWNER OF, WE HAVEN'T ON OUR ACTION PLAN.
WHY TO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THE MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSIONER HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS? SO WE ARE NOT ACTIVELY ENGAGED AS THIS IS.
THIS IS A TOWN, UM, INITIATIVE OR C I P PROGRAM.
BUT, BUT THAT WILL COME OUT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, UM, STUDY, UH, WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO COMPLETE MM-HMM.
AND THEN, UH, WHILE I'M HERE, THE, THE PATHWAY WE'VE BEEN ADVANCING THE WORK ON THE PATHWAY FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR, YOU KNOW, EARLY ACTION ITEMS ARE TO SURVEY THE ENTIRE AREA TO UNDERSTAND EXISTING CONDITIONS.
UM, AND OUR PROCESS WOULD BE GO, TO GO FROM SURVEYING, UH, TO LOOK AT SOME ENGINEERING AND OPTIONS THAT MAY, UM, BE AVAILABLE TO SERVE BIKE AND PET FACILITIES ALONG THAT STRETCH.
AND THEN TO BRING THOSE FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION, UM, AND ULTIMATELY APPROVE AS PART OF OUR C I P PROGRAM FOR CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
IT'S NOT AS EASY AS, YOU KNOW, JUST ROLL ON A PAPER IN THERE, CLEARING AND PAVING A PATHWAY.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO THE SURVEY AND THE ASSESSMENT, ENGINEERING AND PRESENT OPTIONS.
JOHN, COULD I JUST ASK ABOUT RELATIVE TIMING THEN? WHEN THOSE STUDIES WILL BE FINISHED VERSUS THE DECISION ON THE NEXT STEPS IN DEVELOPMENT AND WHEN, WHEN CAN WE ANTICIPATE IN C I P SEEING THOSE PATHWAY NUMBERS? UM, YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN, UM, IN, IN THE SPRING AS FAR AS ENGINEERING AND OPTIONS FOR, UM, FOR, UH, REVIEW MM-HMM.
UM, AND I'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MOVE THAT FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, TOM, MANAGER AND COUNSEL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH OPTIONS, UNDERSTANDING THE, THE, THE COSTS AND, UM, AND THE TREATMENTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, AND THEN PROGRAM THROUGH, UM, INTO THE CIP.
NOW AGAIN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THIS AS A PRIORITY ITEM.
THAT'S WHY IT'S IN OUR CURRENT, IT'S FUNDED, FUNDED AND TOWN COUNCIL SUPPORTED IT.
IT'S CURRENTLY IN OUR CIP AND WE'RE JUST, WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THE STEPS.
YOU KNOW, A TYPICAL CIP PROJECT IS PROBABLY AN 18 MONTH MINIMUM TO DO THE, THE SURVEY, THE DUE DILIGENCE, THE ENGINEERING, THE, THE DESIGN WORK, THE PERMITTING, AND TO GET IT TO WHERE IT'S A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD IS ANOTHER, DEPENDING HOW BIG IT IS.
UM, COULD BE 3, 6, 9 MONTHS A YEAR, UM, FOR SOME BIG PROJECTS.
I GUESS, I GUESS MY REAL QUESTION YES, SIR, IS WHAT, WHAT COMES FIRST KIND OF THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG? DO WE GET THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE WE'VE MADE DECISIONS ABOUT THE, THE, THE FIRST PHASE OF THE YEAH, WE'LL HAVE THE, UM, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY WE'LL WILL INFORM FINAL OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR ROAD INTERSECTION PATHWAY, UM, AND BIKE FACILITIES.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND AS PART OF THE, THE PROCESS HERE, UM, THESE SUBDIVISIONS, THERE'S A LIST OF REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY NEED TO MEET.
UM, SOME REQUIRE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY BASED ON THRESHOLDS, SOME DON'T.
UM, AND SO I CAN'T HOLD UP A SUBDIVISION APPROVAL IF THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO DO A, A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.
BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THESE PROCESSES, IDENTIFY IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UM, THAT EITHER THE TOWN, THE COUNTY OR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, UM, WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, RESPONSIBLE TO, TO EXECUTE AS WE GO FORWARD.
AND I FOLLOW UP ON MR. O'NEILL'S QUESTION, UH, ALSO ON THE TIMELINE ASPECTS OF IT, IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS THAT ARE, UH, UNDER WORK RIGHT NOW.
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IS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT AND THE OTHER IS POTENTIAL CHANGES IN THE LMO DEALING WITH GENERAL DEVELOPMENT.UM, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT MAY BE GOING ON AT IN THE TOWN AT THE SAME TIME THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO GET APPROVAL.
UH, THIS IS ONLY A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION, SO IT'LL COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT SOME FUTURE DATE.
HOW DO THOSE DATES LINE UP? WELL, WE WILL, AND I, I SENT AN EMAIL OUT TO THE, THE CITIZENS AND, AND, UH, KIND OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE, THE CHAIN OVER OVER TIME THAT THE, THE RESULTS OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY WILL BE USED TO INFORM A DISTRICTWIDE EVALUATION, UM, THAT WILL LEAD TO SOME SOMETHING, RIGHT? UH, FUTURE LAND USE, YOU KNOW, THE MID ISLAND WAS OUR FIRST DISTRICT, PROBABLY THE MOST COMPLEX.
UM, BUT WE WILL EVALUATE ANOTHER HALF A DOZEN DISTRICTS, MAYBE MORE.
THIS WILL BE ONE OF THEM, UM, TO STITCH TOGETHER INTO THAT URBAN GROWTH FRAMEWORK,
AND THE CODE CHANGES NEED TO, UM, BE MADE TO THEN PUSH TOWARD THAT FUTURE LAND USE AND EXPECTATION.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT THAT'LL BE MOVING FORWARD HERE, EARLY PART OF 23.
UH, MR. PERRY, ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, FROM A STANDPOINT OF CHARACTER, UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT AND GO, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONNA BE A CLEAR CUT JUST LIKE THE VILLAGE PARK AREA WAS DONE.
AND THAT'S, THAT, AGAIN, IS NOT WITHIN OUR CHARACTER.
UM, AS A MEMBER OF THE, OF THE COMMISSION, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORING AREA, YOU KNOW, AREAS BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AT DIMINISHING, UM, THE STYLE OF HOMES WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLEX.
UM, IT IS OVER OVERUTILIZING, UM, A SENSITIVE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE MARSHLAND.
AND WHILE I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY DROPPED ONE FROM 23 TO 22, I, I THINK IT IS AN ISSUE WITH OUR LMO THAT, THAT WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT'S RIGHT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN TOO MUCH RECENTLY.
AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE SAID THIS A LOT LATELY, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE ALAMO SERVED US WELL FOR 10 YEARS, BUT NOW IT'S NOT PROVIDING US REALLY WITH WHAT IS, UM, IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT AND EXPRESSING YOUR OPINIONS.
UM, REMEMBER THAT IT, IT WAS YOUR VOICE FROM JONESVILLE ROAD AND THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT BROUGHT THIS OPEN DIAS FOR YOU TO EXPRESS YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IT ALSO GOT YOU, UM, A BIKE PATH THAT'S ON THE C I P.
SO CONTINUE TALKING, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S UNFORTUNATE IN ONE WAY, BUT IT'S THE LAW.
BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE CAN'T VOTE ON IT.
BUT I HOPE THAT OUR COMMENTS WILL BE ON RECORD WITH WHEN WE GO TO WORK ON THE LMO CHANGES.
AND MR. CAMPBELL, DID YOU HAVE SOME, IS THERE SOMEBODY, OH, I SAW ANOTHER HAND OVER HERE AND THE ONE IN THE BACK.
OKAY, WE'LL START WITH THIS GENTLEMAN OVER HERE.
I'VE BEEN IN JONESVILLE ROAD FOR 21 YEARS.
AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT JUST DIMINISHING VALUES, BUT THEY'RE GONNA CAUSE MORE HABIT TO A SITUATION WE ALREADY HAVE.
IT'S OUTTA CONTROL, WHICH IS A SPANISH WELLS INTERSECTION AT FOUR 30 IN THE AFTERNOON.
YOU'RE DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY THIS COMING WEEK.
I'D RECOMMEND NOT DO IT ANYWHERE NEAR ON THANKSGIVING, CUZ HALF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING ON A DAILY BASIS NOT GONNA BE ON THE ROAD.
IT'S A WASTEFUL USE OF RESOURCES.
I'D DO IT ON A BUSY DAY, ON A REGULAR BUSY DAY.
AND MY, MY, I GUESS MY PLATFORM IS IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY AT FOUR 30 IN THE AFTERNOON ON JONESVILLE ROAD, GOD FORBID IF IT'S ONE OF OUR FAMILY'S CHILDREN OR LOVED ONES, BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY EMS IS GONNA GET DOWN THAT ROAD AND INTO THE HOSPITAL IN A TIMELY FASHION.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S UNMANAGEABLE AT THIS POINT.
THERE ARE COMMENTS THAT WE ALL PUT ONLINE YESTERDAY.
WE'VE SEEN, WE'VE SEEN MM-HMM.
THIS ROOM HAS A POSTED SIGN UP THERE.
IT SAYS, FOR SAFETY REASONS, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH CAPACITY.
THE SIMPLE RULE FOR HILTON HEAD WITH A SINGLE EXIT, THERE SHOULD BE A RULE OF CAPACITY OF NUMBER OF UNITS OF CARS PER DAY.
WE CAN LIMIT THE NUMBER OF UNITS BEING BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY OR ANY OTHER PROPERTY ON ANY OTHER AREA IN HILTON HEAD.
NASS, JONESVILLE BASED ON CAPACITY FOR SINGLE EXIT, JUST LIKE WE DO ON A BUILDING FOR SAFETY REASONS.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN REALLY HAS TO LOOK AT.
I'VE BEEN HERE 40 YEARS AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES, MOST FOR GOOD, BUT I THINK NOW IT'S BECOMING A GREED ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, RM FOUR TO RM SIX, THE ONLY PERSON THAT MAKES GOOD ON THAT IS THE DEVELOPER, NOT THE COMMUNITY.
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AND IT DOES HURT THE VALUES BECAUSE IF YOU CAN PUT A SMALLER HOME ON A SMALLER LOT DROPS THE VALUES, BIGGER HOME, BIGGER LOT, IT WILL MAINTAIN THOSE VALUES.AND FINALLY, FOR MILLER ROAD, IT'S FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY FOR AN EXIT, WHICH WE NEED, IT'S CALLED EMETT DOMAIN.
WE HAVE THAT RIGHT, OR YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT TO LOOK AT IT FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, NOT JUST FOR WALKING, BUT FOR DRIVING IN AND OUT OF THAT COMMUNITY ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO SEAN, THE ORDER IS BEING PLACED NEXT WEEK, THE STUDY'S NOT BEING DONE NEXT WEEK, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND IT'S NOT A SNAPSHOT BASED ON ANY PARTICULAR DAY.
THEY LOOK AT TRAFFIC COUNTS, HISTORIC DATA, UM, EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT, FUTURE, UM, OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO YEAH, IT LOOKS, LOOKS AT A MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE THING THAN JUST A CERTAIN DAY OF THE WEEK.
A GENTLEMAN BACK IN THE CORNER.
SORRY, JUST, I'M GONNA JAQUAN UP AND VISIT WITH US.
I LIKE WHAT I'M, I LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN THE FUTURE, BUT DID I SENSE THIS, THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THIS TRAFFIC STUDY AND ALL THIS IS GONNA HAVE NO IMPACT ON THESE, THIS AREA BEING DONE ALREADY? IS THAT, IS THAT RIGHT OR WRONG? THAT'S TRUE.
UH, A GOOD, GREAT, GREAT QUESTION.
UM, WHAT I, WHAT I MENTIONED, UM, IN MY COMMENTS, UM, THE, THE CURRENT LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AS DRAFTED REQUIRES TRAFFIC IMPACT.
UM, STUDIES BE DONE WHEN DEVELOPMENT REACH REACHES A CERTAIN THRESHOLD.
UM, THIS SUBDIVISION DOES NOT MEET THE T THAT THRESHOLD.
UM, WE'RE GONNA DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSESSMENT OF THE WHOLE AREA, UNDERSTANDING THE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE THAT EXISTS IN JONESVILLE SPANISH WELLS, UM, BOTH WITH EXISTING APPLICATIONS, THE, THE LEVEL OF CURRENT DEVELOPMENT THAT EXIST ON JONESVILLE.
UH, WHAT I MENTIONED IS I CAN'T HOLD UP A SUBDIVISION APPLICATION, UM, BECAUSE OF A, UH, A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED TO SUBMIT.
IF, IF IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ARE RECOMMENDED AS, AS AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, THEN WE WILL WORK WITH THE COUNTY, THE TOWN, UM, AND, AND PROPERTY AND, AND AND DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE IN, IN, UM, UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE ALONG THAT STRETCH TO MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED.
SO, SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO, WE WILL NOT.
I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DENY SOMETHING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WASN'T A REQUIREMENT PER THE ADOPTED CODE.
AND IS THAT, I'M NOT REAL FAMILIAR WITH ALL THIS UNTIL THIS ALL STARTED HAPPENING.
THE BIGGER ONE, THE 140 UNIT ONE THAT'S IN THE SAME BALLPARK, IN THE SAME, THEY, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.
UM, ONE WAS DONE, THERE WAS RECOMMENDATION MADE FOR RIGHT TURN LANE ON SPANISH WELLS IN JONESVILLE.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT THIS AREA, MORE COMPREHENSIVE NATURE, THERE'S, THERE MAY BE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THAT ARE NEEDED, AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY TO FIGURE OUT THE PATH FORWARD ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT THOSE PROJECTS.
RIGHT? SO THE END RESULT IS THESE, WHAT WE'VE BEEN SHOWN TODAY, THE 140 AND THE OTHER ONE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, RIGHT? THE, WELL, THE, THE BAILEY'S COVE COMPLETED THEIR TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DO.
I KNOW WE'RE WORKING WITH 'EM ON A PHASE TWO, THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS NOT REQUIRED TO DO ONE.
UM, AND SO YES, THERE'S THAT DEVELOPMENT, UM, BASED ON THE ENTITLEMENTS, AND AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT THIS AREA'S BEEN ZONED THE SAME WAY FOR A COUPLE DECADES.
SO IT'S NOT A REZONING, IT'S JUST AN, IT'S JUST NOW THERE'S DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE AND INTENSITY THAT'S OCCURRING HERE PER THE ADOPTED CODE.
SO WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS HERE.
WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE WHAT WE GOT, WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED.
AND THEN, UH, YOU'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY AND A TRAFFIC STUDY MIGHT SAY ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
WILL WE IMPLEMENT THAT OR WILL WE, WILL WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO TRY TO DEVELOP SOMETHING BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT WHATEVER THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE? WE, WE WILL EVALUATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, IF IMPROVEMENTS ARE RECOMMENDED, WE'LL EVALUATE THOSE LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN COORDINATE BETWEEN THE TOWN AND COUNTY, THOSE THAT ARE, ARE, UM, THAT SHOULD BE ADVANCED WITHIN CIPS OR, OR, AND DO A PROJECT.
AND IT COULD ALSO AFFECT THE LMO AND HOW THAT MAKE CHANGES THERE.
AND WE'RE, AND JUST ONE MORE THING, UM, CUZ I GOT A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE HERE AS PART OF OUR LMO AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING, UM, THE, A COMPLETE REVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSESSMENT REQUIREMENTS,
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UM, IS PART OF THAT.SO THAT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S, UH, WITH IMPACT TO THE CLOSEST SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION, WHICH I THINK, UM, UNFORTUNATELY MISSES A LOT OF MORE MEANINGFUL LOCALIZED IMPROVEMENTS THAT SHOULD BE DONE.
SO WE'RE, THAT'S PART OF OUR AMENDMENT PROCESS.
UH, IN ADDITION TO TRAFFIC, UH, OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE SEWERS, THE LIGHT, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE JONESVILLE ROAD AREA WITH REGARD TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT? UH, AFTER THESE TWO PROJECTS AND MAYBE FURTHER ON DOWN THE ROAD? THERE, THERE, THERE'S COORDINATION THROUGH OUR, UH, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, PERMITTING PROCESS WITH ALL UTILITY PROVIDERS.
UM, AND AGAIN, I SAW THE COMMENTS TOO ABOUT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND GROWTH MM-HMM.
ALL INFORMED, UM, WE REQUIRE, WILL SERVE LETTERS FROM THE PSD PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE PROVISION FOR WATER AND SEWER.
UM, AND THE SCHOOL'S INFORMED ABOUT POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL, IT CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT AS WELL.
SO THERE IS COORDINATION THROUGH ALL OF THOSE PERMITTING, UM, AND, UM, PARTNER AGENCIES ON ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURS THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
NOW I CAN ASSURE OF THOSE WHO SENT, UH, THEIR COMMENTS INTO THE PORTAL THAT, UH, WE HAVE READ THEM.
UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR INTEREST IN SPEAKING UP.
THAT'S ONE HOW WE LEARN THINGS HERE.
AND, UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT ISSUES OTHER THAN JUST TRAFFIC, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, UH, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT, UH, AS WE PROCEED WORKING WITH STAFF THAT, UH, UH, WHAT YOU'VE SAID WILL BE, UH, HEARD AND HOPEFULLY, UH, WE CAN RESOLVE SOME OF THESE ISSUES AS WE MOVE ALONG WITH THESE STUDIES.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT THE PLAN THAT YOU SEE UP FRONT IS NOT READY TO BE APPROVED.
I, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
SO THIS IS NOT READY TO BE APPROVED.
UM, LIKE SEAN MENTIONED, STAFF REVIEWS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLANS BASED ON THE LMO TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, DENSITY, SETBACKS, BUFFERS, UM, BUT WE ALSO LOOK AT THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF OUR REGULATIONS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO READ YOU A FEW THINGS FROM THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS.
OUR PURPOSE AND INTENT SECTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF A SUBDIVISION LAYOUT IS TO CREATE A FUNCTIONAL AND ATTRACTIVE DEVELOPMENT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND LOTS APPROPRIATELY SIZED AND LOCATED TO MINIMIZE ADVERSE IMPACTS.
THEY SHOULD, UM, BE DESIGNED TO PROMOTE HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE, ORDER WELFARE, THE PRESIDENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN PROVIDE FOR ORDERLY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, ENSURE ADEQUATE OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION FACILITIES.
SO STAFF IS REVIEWING THIS PLAN TO ENSURE THAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE BEING MET.
SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR MAXIMUM 23 LOTS OR 22 LOTS.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE, MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF THAT AND WE WELCOME YOUR INPUT ON THIS.
UH, I HAVE ANOTHER HAND IN THE EAR OVER HERE, SIR.
THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT THE BAILEY'S POINT DID RECOMMENDED PUT THE TURN LANE IN JONESVILLE, WHICH WAS THERE ORIGINALLY WHEN THEY DID THE CAUSEWAY, THEY OMITTED IT AND PUT IT BACK ONE SO THEY'RE ONLY BEING FORCED TO DO WHAT WAS THERE ANYWAYS.
IN MY MY OPINION, THERE HAS TO BE A TURN LANE THAT GOES RIGHT ON SPANISH WELLS AND NOT TAXPAYERS PAYING FOR IT, BUT THE DEVELOPER.
CUZ IF YOU'RE GETTING READY TO LEAVE JONESVILLE AT FOUR 30 IN THE AFTERNOON AND YOU HAVE TO LEAVE LEFT, THERE'S GONNA BE A LINE OF PEOPLE BACKING UP.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, I SEE NOTHING ON THAT MAP ABOUT ALL THE HISTORICAL LARGE OAK TREES STANDING ON THAT PROPERTY.
BAILEY'S POINT HAD TO PRESERVE MANY OF THEM.
THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT MAP THAT SHOWS ME THERE'S ANY PRESERVATION OF THOSE TREES THAT WOULD IMPACT THE NUMBER OF UNITS INSTANTLY IF WE TOOK A CONCERTED LOOK AT THOSE LARGE OAK TREES ON THAT PROPERTY.
ANY OTHER, UH, HANDS? OTHERWISE I'M GONNA GO TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, MR. HENS TO START OVER THERE.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT TO UNPACK.
UM, AND, AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IN OUR DISCUSSION IS TO COMBINE WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY OUT HERE TO, TO GIVE OUR FEEDBACK TO STAFF.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, TO DO? OKAY.
AND, UM, AND, AND THOSE, THOSE GUIDELINES THAT YOU JUST READ US, WHAT, WHAT STAFF LOOKS FOR IN, IN APPROVING DEVELOPMENTS, THAT WAS ALL DONE WITH BAILEY'S COVE.
SO WE HAVE A CONFIDENT LEVEL THAT, THAT THOSE STANDARDS WERE, WERE PUT IN PLACE AND, AND WE SHOULD FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE
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BAILEY COVE DEVELOPMENT CUZ THAT DON'T WONDERI MEAN, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, UH, TWIN OAKS IS, IS TRUMP CHANGE COMPARED TO, TO BAILEY'S COVE
UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT PHASE ONE OF BAILEY'S COVE, UM, NO, WAS NOT REVIEWED AND APPROVED IN THE SAME MANNER AS I'M ASKING STAFF TO REVIEW SUBDIVISIONS.
NOW BAILEY'S COVE ADDS PHASE TWO AND WE'RE, WE PUSH THEM FOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT.
TWIN OAKS AND TIDELANDS ON JONESVILLE ROAD, WE'RE PUSHING 15 WIMBLEDON ON FOLLEY FIELD.
WE'RE PUSHING, UM, AND YOU, AND IT'S TO BEAT THAT PURPOSE AND INTENT.
SO I'M NOT GONNA HIDE BEHIND THE FACT THAT PHASE ONE OF BAILEY'S COVE IS NOT MEETING THE EXPECTATION THAT WE HAVE FOR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, BUT WE CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR BETTER AND, AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS OF THESE WHO GO FORWARD.
APPRECIATE THIS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
HOW LONG AGO WAS PHASE ONE, UH, APPROVED? DO WE KNOW HOW FAR BACK? UH, LAST LIKE DECEMBER, UH, YEAH, PROBABLY ALMOST A YEAR AGO.
I, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THIS DAY.
IT WAS, UH, LATE LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE.
UH, MR. SIBAL, ANYTHING? UH, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UH, MR. UH, D THEY RAN SOME VERY GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
I THINK THAT'S THE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE THAT ALLOW US TO GET, TAKE A MORE CRITICAL EYE AT, AT THIS SUBDIVISION PLAN.
ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE, UH, THE SPECIMEN OAKS.
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE THOSE SPECIMEN OAKS ON THIS PARTICULAR PLAN AND THEN, UH, REVIEW IT ACCORDINGLY BECAUSE, UH, WE CAN'T SAVE THEM ALL, BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE TO SAVE AS MANY AS WE CAN AND, AND THEN GO THROUGH THE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.
SO, UM, GOOD GIVE AND TAKE AND, UH, APPRECIATE ALL THE FEEDBACK.
MR. ALFRED, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? UM, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROCEDURE HAS BEEN FOLLOWED.
BY THAT I MEAN THAT BRINGING A MATTER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE IT GOES TO STAFF.
AND AS YOU HEARD FROM MR. COLE AND OTHERS, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORT GOING ON RIGHT NOW TO REVIEW AND LOOK AT RULES THAT NEED TO BE POTENTIALLY CHANGED.
WHAT'S DISAPPOINTING ABOUT THAT IS, AS HE INDICATED, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THE REVISIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE MADE OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.
UM, SO THE TOWN IS DOING ITS BEST TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS.
IT JUST DOESN'T APPEAR THAT, THAT THESE PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENTS ON JONESVILLE, UH, WILL DO ANYTHING MORE THAN MAKE US THINK, YEAH, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE DOING BETTER AND WE WILL.
MR. CAMPBELL? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
MR. O'NEILL? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A QUESTION AND A COMMENT.
I, I WORRY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LINEAR THINKING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE.
UM, I THINK THAT STAFF HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF OUR CURRENT RULES AND, AND THE REST OF IT.
THE CONCERN I WOULD HAVE THOSE IF YOU APPROVE ONE PROJECT BASED UPON AN LMO ROLE AND THEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE AND, UM, YOU APPROVE THAT ONE, AND THEN THE THIRD ONE, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A POTENTIAL THIRD PHASE IN ALL OF THIS, AND YOU APPROVE THAT WITHIN THE RULES, AND THEN YOU LOOK BACK AND YOU SAY, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, WE HAVEN'T GOT THE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVEN'T GOT THE RIGHT SAFETY STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET AT THAT, BUT THE LINEAR THINKING THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN HERE IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE SOME CONCERN, NOT TODAY, BUT AS WE GO INTO THE FUTURE.
SO, UH, SEAN, FIRST OF ALL, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT STATEMENT JUST A, A MOMENT AGO.
I, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOT EVERYTHING WORKS THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO, AND WHEN IT DOESN'T, IT GETS ADDRESSED, UM, TO BRING IT BACK INTO CHARACTER.
SO, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND INPUT BECAUSE IT REALLY IS WHAT HAS DRIVEN THIS MEETING TODAY FROM WHAT HAPPENED, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, AT THAT PIECE OF LAND ON JONESVILLE ROAD.
UM, YEAH, I, I AGREE, MARK THAT THE LINEAR THOUGHT IN IN TOWN STAFF IS WORKING WITH THE CONFINES OF THE DIRECTION.
BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THAT DIRECTION, UM, FROM A PLANNING COMMISSION SIDE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT, IT, IT CONTINUES
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THE CHARACTER THAT WE WANT IT TO BE.UM, AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THE OAK TREES NEED TO BE THE SPECIMEN OAKS.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATE SUBMISSION SHOWING ALL SPECIMEN OAKS OR SPECIMEN TREES, SORRY.
UM, SO THAT IT CAN BE IDENTIFIED.
THEY KNOW WHAT THE TRUE IMPACT IS.
I, I'M GONNA TAKE IT ONE STEP FURTHER.
AND, AND I'D MENTIONED THIS BEFORE IN AN LMO MEETING, THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA FOR TOWN STAFF TO HOLD SOME CLASSES FOR THOSE, UM, DESIGNERS AND LAND PLANNERS THAT ARE OUT THERE SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF THE TOWN WITH THIS NEW CHANGE.
AND ESPECIALLY AS THE LMO AMENDMENTS CHANGE, UM, HAVE A TRAINING SESSION OR EDUCATION SESSION SESSION, UM, FOR THOSE FOLKS SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THEY CAN BETTER PREPARE WHAT THEY PRESENT TO THE TOWN.
SO THOSE ARE MY FINAL COMMENTS.
OH, UH, MADAM, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? YEAH, YOU GOTTA COME UP AND TELL US WHO YOU ARE.
UM, I LIVE AT BLUE CRAB MANOR ALL THE WAY AT THE ENDOGEN CELL.
UM, I'M JUST THINKING, UH, NOW WHAT ABOUT PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE THAT ARE NOT APPROVED? I MEAN, IS IT TOO LATE? UH, IF, IF, IF, UH, IF THERE'S GONNA BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE LMO, WHAT HAPPENS WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE AND, AND, UH, CAN THEY BE HELD? UH, UNTIL SOME, UH, SOME UNTIL A BETTER DECISION CAN BE MADE FOR OUR COMMUNITY? UH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE, UH, THE HORSE FARM.
WE'VE HEARD THREATS FROM ONE DEVELOPER ABOUT TINY HOUSES.
IT'S UNBELIEVABLE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, WE NEED PEDAL TO THE METAL HELP ON JONESVILLE ROAD.
MANY TIMES THE GOVERNMENT OPERATES, UNFORTUNATELY, THROUGH A REAR VIEW MIRROR.
AND, UH, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS HOPEFULLY LEARN FROM OUR SHORTCOMINGS AND MISTAKES AS TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY DOWN THE ROAD ON JONESVILLE.
UM, UH, WHAT YOU'VE, WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE TODAY IS YOU'VE MADE GOVERNMENT COME TO A STOP AND TAKE A LOOK AND SAY, HEY, UH, WE'RE NOT DOING EVERYTHING PERFECTLY, AND WE NEED TO START FOCUSING ON THE THINGS THAT PE MATTER TO PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE AFFECTED IN THE, IN THE STREET.
SO WHETHER IT BECOMES, UH, TRAFFIC OR INFRASTRUCTURE OR, UH, TRAINING DEVELOPERS ABOUT HOW WE DO THINGS IN HIL HEAD, UH, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE NEW TO THE ISLAND.
UM, ALL THESE WILL, WHAT YOU'VE DONE TODAY IS YOU'VE, YOU'VE HELPED US PUT THE BRAKES ON SOME THINGS HERE AND YOU'VE HELPED US DECIDE TO, UH, LOOK THROUGH THE, THE FRONT OF THE WINDSHIELD INSTEAD OF IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR ALL THE TIME.
UH, AND I, I COMMEND YOU FOR, FOR SPEAKING UP, FOR SENDING IN YOUR COMMENTS, WHICH I READ WITH, UH, WITH GREAT INTEREST EVERY ONE OF 'EM.
AND, UH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS FOR SAFETY, UH, FOR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND, UH, WE, WE TRIED TO GET YOU THAT, THAT BIKE PATH.
AND I, I PROMISE YOU THAT WILL COME WITH TIME AND THAT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE A LITTLE BIT OF THE SAFETY ISSUE.
BUT I KNOW THAT THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IS A MAJOR ONE.
I'M HOPING THAT THE STUDY WILL PROVIDE US WITH SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO FOR YOU.
UH, BUT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS, IS YOU, YOU'VE SPOKEN UP AND UH, AND THAT'S TO BE COMMENDED TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO STOP THE SLOW PROCESS OF GOVERNMENT AND SAY, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER FOR THESE PEOPLE IN THE JONESVILLE COMMUNITY? SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, EVERY ONE OF 'EM HERE TODAY IN, IN WRITING THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, PEOPLE WHO, UH, NEED TO COMMENT? ARE WE GONE THROUGH THE COMMISSIONERS? IF NOT, I BELIEVE WE'VE COME TO THE END OF OUR SESSION TODAY.
AND SO I WANT TO, UH, ADJOURN THIS MEETING, UH, IF THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE US.
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I'M NATALIE HEFNER AND THIS IS YOUR BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENT.
IN THE 1930S, HONEY HORN ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND WAS OWNED BY TWO MEN FROM NEW YORK, ALFRED LOOMIS AND LANDON THORN.
THEY ENTERTAINED HUNTERS AND ENJOYED THEIR VISITS TO HILTON HEAD, BUT WHILE THEY WERE NOT HERE, ALFRED LOOMIS HAD A LABORATORY AT HIS HOME IN TUXEDO PARK, NEW YORK.
THERE HE ENTERTAINED SOME OF THE NATION'S BEST SCIENTIFIC MINDS.
HE WAS INVOLVED WITH THE INVENTION OF LORAN RADAR SYSTEM AND FUNDED MANY SCIENTIFIC PROJECTS DURING WORLD WAR II.
HIS COUSIN WAS SECRETARY OF WAR HENRY STIMSON.
SO HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN MANY OF THE PROJECTS DURING THE WAR.
IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE SLEEPY LITTLE HILTON HEAD ISLAND FULL OF ITS RATTLES STAKES, HAVING HOST TO ALFRED LOOMIS AND SOME OF HIS SCIENTIFIC MINDS, BUT THEY DID ENJOY THEIR VISITS TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND, I'M NATALIE HETER AND THIS HAS BEEN YOUR BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENT.
TO SEE MORE BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENTS GO TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LIBRARY HOMEPAGE AND CLICK ON THE LOCAL HISTORY TAB, CELEBRATING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.
HILTON HEAD ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS BEEN MAKING SPECIAL MORNING ANNOUNCEMENTS, HAVING STUDENTS SHARE INFORMATION AND FACTS ABOUT THE HISPANIC CULTURE AS WELL AS FAMOUS HISPANIC PEOPLE.
HE IS A PUERTO RICAN DESCENDANT.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL COACHING.
WE CAN RESEARCH ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE LIKE SELENA OR SANTOS AND OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT HISPANIC PEOPLE.
THE HALLWAYS OF THE SCHOOL IN SEVERAL CLASSROOM DOORS ARE DECORATED FOR HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.
IT'S CELEBRATED FROM SEPTEMBER 15TH TO OCTOBER 15TH AND IT RECOGNIZES THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF HISPANIC PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.
THE STUDENTS HAVE BEEN TAKING PART IN SEVERAL EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH SOME PEOPLE WHO RECENTLY TOOK A MISSIONARY TRIP TO ECUADOR.
AS AN IB SCHOOL, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONNECT WITH THE STUDENTS.
WE WANT THE STUDENTS TO BE OPEN-MINDED, KNOWLEDGEABLE, AND THE BEST WAY TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND OPEN-MINDED IS TO MEET PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND TALK ABOUT THINGS AND LEARN FROM THEM.
THE STUDENTS REALLY ENJOYED LEARNING ABOUT THE CULTURE AND TRADITIONS IN ECUADOR AS WELL AS THE FOODS PEOPLE EAT THERE.
I THINK IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THEY ATE THE FRIED GUINEA PIGS CUZ HERE THEY PETS AND IN THERE THEIR, THEY JUST EAT 'EM.
I FOUND SOMETHING THAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THE CULTURE WAS THAT FOR NEW YEAR DAY THAT WERE SOME STRAW AND OTHER LIKE BUILDING MATERIALS MAKE LIKE A STRAW PUPPET THING AND THEN THEY BLOW IT UP.
THEY SET THINGS ON FIRE TO REPRESENT THE MOVING FROM THE PAST TO THE NEW YEAR.
SEVERAL STUDENTS FROM THE SCHOOL WILL ALSO BE TAKING PART IN THE OPENING CEREMONIES OF THE LA ISLA MUSIC FESTIVAL ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND ON OCTOBER 16TH AT HILTON HEAD ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL.
RON LOES, BEFOR COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THE EARTH IS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE.
NOT ONLY IS IT OUR HOME, BUT IT'S THE ONLY PLANET THAT SCIENTISTS KNOW OF WHERE LIFE EXISTS.
THE DIVERSITY OF LIFE ON EARTH IS AMAZING.
FROM MICROSCOPIC ALGAE TO CYPRESS TREES, FROM PROTO ZONES TO WORMS, TO EAGLES, MUSHROOMS AND BACTERIA.
THE KEYS TO LIFE ON EARTH ARE THE CLIMATE AND THE PRESENCE OF LIQUID WATER, ALONG WITH THE RIGHT ORGANIC COMPOUNDS.
EARTH IS NOT TOO HOT, NOT TOO COLD.
IT'S DISTANCE FROM THE SUN AND ATMOSPHERE, KEEP TEMPERATURES MODERATE, ALLOWING WATER TO REMAIN LIQUID, WHICH IS ESSENTIAL FOR CELLULAR PROCESSES THAT SUPPORT LIFE TO TAKE PLACE.
RADIOMETRIC DATING INDICATES THAT THE EARTH IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 4.5 BILLION YEARS OLD.
IT'S CONSTANTLY UNDERGOING LARGE SCALE CHANGES DUE TO THE EFFECTS OF PLATE TECTONICS.
IT TAKES JUST OVER 365 DAYS FOR THE EARTH TO MAKE ONE REVOLUTION AROUND THE SUN.
AND IT TAKES 24 HOURS FOR THE EARTH TO ROTATE.
ONCE THE EARTH'S ACCESS IS ALSO TILTED AT 23 DEGREES, WHICH CAUSES SEASONAL VARIATION IN WEATHER, PEOPLE HAVE LONG WONDERED IF THERE'S LIFE BEYOND OUR OWN PLANET.
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BEYOND EARTH FIRST REQUIRES SCIENTISTS TO FIND OTHER STARS THAT HAVE PLANETS REVOLVING AROUND THEM.IN MOST CASES, THESE PLANETS ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND AND SEE.
SO SCIENTISTS LOOK FOR EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS A PLANET PRESENT WITHOUT EVER SEEING THE PLANET ITSELF.
ONE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO LOOK FOR STARS THAT ARE ROTATING IN A WAY THAT INDICATE THEY HAVE A PLANET REVOLVING AROUND THEM.
THIS IS A STAR THAT'S ROTATING WITHOUT A PLANET.
COMPARE THAT TO THIS STAR THAT'S ROTATING WITH A PLANET.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S MOVING VERY DIFFERENTLY, IT WOBBLES.
ANOTHER METHOD IS CALLED THE TRANSIT METHOD.
THIS REQUIRES THE PARENT STAR, THE EXO PLANET, AND THE EARTH TO LINE UP.
JUST RIGHT AS THE EXO PLANET ROTATES IN FRONT OF THE PARENT STAR, THE LIGHT WILL DIM JUST SLIGHTLY.
SCIENTISTS CAN LOOK FOR THIS SLIGHT DIMMING.
THE EASIEST PLANETS TO FIND ARE THE LARGEST AND SO FAR MOST OF THE PLANETS DISCOVERED ARE LARGE JUPITER LIKE PLANETS THAT DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT CONDITIONS FOR SUPPORTING LIFE.
SCIENTISTS ARE LOOKING FOR PLANETS IN THE HABITABLE ZONE, ALSO KNOWN AS THE GOLDILOCK ZONE.
WHAT IS THE HABITABLE ZONE? IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE AND TEMPERATURE OF THE STAR, BUT IT'S THE REGION AROUND A STAR WHERE IT'S NOT TOO HOT, NOT TOO COLD, SO THAT WATER REMAINS IN A LIQUID STATE.
NASA'S KEPLER MISSION IS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO SEARCH OUR REGION OF THE GALAXY FOR EARTH-LIKE PLANETS USING A VERY POWERFUL TELESCOPE THAT'S FOCUSED ON SPACE AT A SMALL AREA WITHIN THE SUMMER TRIANGLE.
ALREADY THOUSANDS OF PLANETS HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED.
ONLY A HANDFUL, HOWEVER, HAVE THE RIGHT CONDITIONS TO POTENTIALLY HOST LIFE GOING FORWARD.
SCIENTISTS MUST STUDY THESE PLANETS IN MORE DETAIL, LOOKING AT SPEED OF ROTATION, ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS, AND WHETHER THERE'S ANY LIQUID WATER PRESENT.
THE EARTH IS A UNIQUE PLANET AMONG MANY, MANY OTHER PLANETS THAT WE'RE ONLY JUST BEGINNING TO DISCOVER.
THE CONDITIONS HERE ON EARTH HAVE LED TO THE EXISTENCE OF A DIVERSITY OF LIFE THAT IS JUST AMAZING.
NEXT TIME YOU'RE OUTSIDE ENJOYING OUR LIVING PLANET, TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT HOW THE PLACE WE LIVE REALLY MAY BE ONE IN A MILLION.
HELLO, MY NAME IS MILTON BOSWELL.
I AM THE DEPUTY ASSESSOR OF BEAVER COUNTY.
IN THIS VIDEO I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HOW TO USE THE REAL PROPERTY FUNCTIONS IN PROPERTY.
MAX REAL PROPERTY REFERS TO ANYTHING THAT THE ASSESSOR VALUES, SUCH AS LAND BUILDINGS, MOBILE HOMES, OR CONDOMINIUMS. WE HAVE A LINK TO PROPERTY MAX LOCATED ON THE HOMEPAGE OF THE ASSESSOR'S WEBSITE, AS WELL AS ON THE MAIN COUNTY WEBPAGE UNDER ONLINE SERVICES.
SO WITH THAT, LET'S GET STARTED.
AFTER YOU CLICK ON PROPERTY MAX, YOU'LL SEE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS AVAILABLE.
CLICK REAL PROPERTY SEARCHING BY OWNER NAME IS THE DEFAULT SEARCH METHOD.
YOU ENTER THE LAST NAME FIRST, FOLLOWED BY A SPACE, AND THEN THE UH, FIRST INITIAL.
SO IN THIS EXAMPLE, SO YOU WOULD ENTER IT LIKE THAT AND THEN CLICK GO.
OTHER WAYS TO SEARCH WOULD BE BY PROPERTY ID OR ALTERNATE ID USING THE INFORMATION FOUND ON EITHER A TAX BILL OR AN ASSESSMENT NOTICE.
YOU MAY ALSO SEARCH BY THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION SHOWN HERE.
A HELPFUL TIP WOULD BE TO USE AN ASTERISK, THEN PART OF THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION SUCH AS CEDAR CREST.
YOU WOULD CLICK LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND THEN AN ASTERISK AND THEN CEDAR CREST.
AND IT'LL TAKE IT A FEW MOMENTS, BUT THAT'S THE BEST WAY THAT I'VE FOUND.
IF YOU SEARCH BY LEGAL DESCRIPTION, NOW THE MOST COMMON WAY TO SEARCH OTHER THAN OWNER'S NAME IS BY STREET ADDRESS SHOWN HERE.
SO YOU WOULD PUT IN JUST THE FIRST STREET ADDRESS AND THEN NAME AND CLICK GO.
YOU'LL BE TAKEN TO THE OVERVIEW TAB.
ONCE THE PROPERTY INFORMATION HAS BEEN RETRIEVED, WHICH INCLUDES VALUES AND TAX INFORMATION, PLEASE NOTE THE DATE THAT THE DATA WAS REFRESHED AND MOVING DOWN IS THE PARCEL TAB, WHICH DISPLAYS CURRENT ASSESSMENT INFORMATION, INCLUDING APPRAISED VALUES, TAXABLE VALUES IN THE ASSESSMENT RATIO.
JOAN HERE, NOTE THAT 2020 IS UH,
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BLANK BECAUSE WE ARE NOT IN THAT TAX CYCLE YET.THE LAND TAB DISPLAYS BASIC LAND ATTRIBUTES SUCH AS UH, ACREAGE OR SQUARE FOOTAGE IF WE HAVE IT IN THE SYSTEM.
THE IMPROVEMENTS TAB DISPLAYS BUILDING FEATURES SUCH AS SIZE AND YEAR BUILT.
CLICKING ON VIEW DETAILS WILL DISPLAY A SKETCH OF THE IMPROVEMENT, AND IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, IT WILL ENLARGE.
THE SALES DISCLOSURE TAB DISPLAYS DETAILS OF OWNERSHIP TRANSFERS SUCH AS THE SALE DATE, THE SALE AMOUNT, AND THE DEED BOOK AND PAGE VALUE.
HISTORY SHOWS THE LAND AND IMPROVEMENT VALUES FOR EACH TAX YEAR.
AND THEN GIS MAPPING OPENS A NEW WINDOW SHOWING WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.
YOU JUST CLICK OKAY AND ZOOM THEM.
THE FINAL FEATURE OF PROPERTY MAX THAT I WILL SHOW YOU IS SEARCH BY SALES.
THIS WILL ALLOW YOU TO FIND SALES INFORMATION BASED ON FILTERS THAT YOU CREATE.
A HELPFUL TIP WOULD BE TO KEEP THE FILTERS AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE SO THAT YOU GET THE MOST RETURNS IN THE FOLLOWING EXAMPLE, I WILL SET FILTERS TO FIND THE 2019 SALES FOR CEDAR CREST SUBDIVISION THAT SOLD BETWEEN $60,000 AND $300,000.
SO FIRST YOU WOULD SET THE LOW SALES PRICE TO ONE ONE 2019.
YOU WOULD SET THE HIGH TO 1231 2019.
UH, SET THE LOW SALE PRICE TO 60, WHICH IS A DEFAULT, AND THEN SET THE HIGH SALES PRICE TO 300,000.
NOW IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, YOU HAVE OTHER WAYS THAT YOU CAN FILTER THIS, BUT I'M GONNA DO THIS BY NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO YOU WOULD SCROLL DOWN HERE AND THEN THERE IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.
SO I'M GOING TO SCROLL DOWN TO CEDAR CREST AND THEN YOU WOULD CLICK GO.
AND THIS GIVES YOU THE RETURNS OF EVERYTHING THAT'S SOLD IN TAG 19.
IN THAT PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION.
THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN SEARCH FOR SALES.
I HOPE YOU FOUND, FOUND THIS VIDEO INFORMATIVE AND THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
THERE'S, UH, JUST OVER 2 MILLION OYSTERS IN HERE.
SO ACTUALLY, UH, STARTED MARICULTURE IN OH SEVEN.
YOU KNOW, THEY LOVE THE BEAUFORT SINGLE OYSTER.
THE MOTHER NATURE ONLY GIVES YOU A FEW OF THEM.
SO WE KNEW WE HAD TO ACTUALLY START GROWING THEM TO MEET DEMAND.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING EVER SINCE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY FROM MARYLAND, VIRGINIA AREA, CHESAPEAKE BAY, AND JUST AS A KID, MESS AROUND WITH OYSTERS ALL THE TIME.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU DO.
OH SEVEN IS PROBABLY 40, 50,000 OYSTERS.
UH, THIS YEAR WE SHOULD BE UP AROUND QUARTER MILLION.
HERE WE'RE PULLING THESE BIGGER ONES OUT AND THEY'LL GO INTO A BIGGER MESH BAG.
USUALLY BE THREE INCHES AND THEN A RAW BAR IN CHARLESTON OR BE RIGHT.
LET ME HAND YOU THESE BACK, BRIAN.
THE FINAL PRODUCT'S A THREE INCH OYSTER, WHICH WE'RE ABOUT TO GO GET HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
WE GET ACCOLADES ALL DAY LONG IF THE PEOPLE IN BEAUFORT LOVE THEM, CUZ UH, BEAUFORT PEOPLE KNOW OYSTERS AND THEY SAY THEY'RE GOOD, THEY'RE GOOD.
UH, FRANK BRUNAI FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES, UH, HAD OYSTERS AT THE ORDINARY, WHICH IS A FINE RESTAURANT.
JAMES BEARD WARD WON AND CHEF, THEY HAD EIGHT OYSTERS ON THE MENU.
HE ATE, ATE ONE OF EACH, AND THEN HE CALLED CHEF LATO OVER AND, UH, POINTED TO OUR OYSTER AND SAID, THIS IS THE BEST OYSTER I'VE EVER EATEN.
AND, UH, HE WENT AND ATE THREE DOZEN MORE AND THEN WENT ON TWITTER, 300,000 FOLLOWERS AND SAID, MEET THESE OYSTERS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
A LOT OF THE PHONE CALLS CAME FROM OUTTA STATE AND WE'RE JUST NOT SET UP TO SHIP OUTTA STATE YET.
UH, WE'RE, WE GOTTA SATISFY THE NEEDS OF SOUTH CAROLINA FIRST.
WE'LL DROP THE TANKS AND THE WATER WILL PASS THROUGH THIS SIVS, BUT THE RAVE IS GONNA BE AROUND 70 A MICRON.
SO THEY'LL BE CAPTURED ON THIS.
SID, IT LOOKS LIKE COFFEE GROUNDS IN HERE.
THEN WE'LL TAKE THIS THAT'S CAPTURED HERE, PUT 'EM IN THESE CUPS WITH FILTERED SEA WATER.
THEN WE'LL TAKE A SAMPLE OF THAT AND PUT IT UNDER THE MICROSCOPE.
THE, THE SIZE AND HOW MANY WE HAVE DETERMINES HOW MUCH FOOD THEY GET BACK IN THE TANK WHEN WE RELOAD THE TANKS WITH FILTERED WATER.
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AT LEAST 21 TO 25 DAY CYCLE.IT'S LIKE HAVING A LOT OF LITTLE PUPPIES.
I LEARNED PRETTY QUICKLY THAT I HAD TO LEARN HOW TO DO THIS CUZ WE RAN OUT OF OYSTERS IN THE WILD.
IT TAKES TOO LONG FOR OUR MARKET DEMAND TO GET A SINGLE WILD OYSTER.
SO I WENT TO HATCHERY AROUND THE EAST COAST LEARNING FROM THEM HOW THEY DO IT.
AND EACH HATCHERY HAS ITS OWN LITTLE WAYS OF DOING IT.
WHAT WORKS IN A HATCHERY, SAY IN NORTH CAROLINA MAY NOT WORK IN A HATCHERY HERE.
UH, THE WATER BODY'S DIFFERENT.
UH, WHAT WE DO HERE MAY NOT WORK SOMEPLACE ELSE.
SO YOU HAVE TO FIND YOUR OWN LITTLE NICHE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE SINGLE GRAIN IS, UH, A SINGLE OYSTER.
UH, IF THE, IF THE GRAIN OF, IF THE CRUSH SHELL IS TOO BIG, WE'LL GET MULTIPLE SETS ON IT, THEN WE'LL GET A CLUSTERED OYSTER.
WELL, WE GET THOSE IN THE WILD ALREADY, SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GROW A CLUSTERED OYSTER.
ONCE THEY SET, THEY CAN ONLY DO IT ONE TIME.
SO THEY, THEY CEMENT THEMSELVES TO THAT PIECE OF SH UH, CRUSH SHELL, THEN THEY START GROWING THEIR OWN SHELL.
WE DO A LOT OF RESEARCH WITH DNR, UH, D H UH, FDA, UH, OVER IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH OTHER HATCHERIES.
WE JUST HAD A COLD SNAP THE OTHER DAY.
UH, IT SLOWED DOWN OUR GROWTH.
OUR OYSTERS WENT AN OR RVA WENT AN EXTRA FIVE DAYS BECAUSE OF THE DROP IN TEMPERATURE.
THIS IS A REFRACT AND A MEASURING.
AQUACULTURE IS FROM OUR DEFINITION IS IMPOUNDMENTS ON LAND, SHRIMP FARMS, CATFISH FARMS. THAT'S AQUACULTURE.
THIS IS MARICULTURE, WHICH IS IMPOUNDMENTS AT SEA, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THERE'S ABOUT, THERE'S ABOUT 1800 OYSTERS IN HERE.
WE GOT THE WATER COMING IN FROM ST.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THAT NICE BRINY, UH, BRIGHT FLAVOR THAT THE TASTE OF THAT, THE OCEAN TASTE OF THE SEA.
THESE ARE GONNA BE PROCESSED TONIGHT, TOMORROW MORNING.
AND BY MID MORNING THEY'LL BE ON THEIR WAY TO CHARLESTON.
YEAH, THE BOAT CAME UP IN THE RAW BARS.
THEY TYPICALLY CALL THIS THE SINGLE LADY.
THAT'S WHAT YOU, YOU WANNA SEE THAT NICE CHINA WHITE KIND OF BODY.
AND YOU WANNA SEE THAT LIQUOR IN THERE AND YOU JUST WANNA SIMPLY CUT THE BOTTOM OF THAT MUSCLE.
AND THIS OYSTER IS READY TO BE EATEN.
RAW COOK, STEAMED, ANY WHICH WAY I CAN GET 'EM.
UH, SOMETIMES I PUT A LITTLE BIT OF LEMON ON 'EM OR AT MINETTE.
UH, LITTLE BIT OF HOT, HOT SAUCE.
I JUMP AROUND, BUT I'LL TAKE THEM ANY WHICH WAY I CAN GET 'EM.
BEAUFORT COUNTY IS REALLY UNIQUE IN ITS WATER.
WELL THEY, THEY CALL OUR RIVERS, RIVERS, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY RIVERS.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY TID ESTUARIES THAT HAVE FLOW IN AND FLOW OUT FROM THE OCEAN.
THEY'RE NOT FROM WAY UP IN COLUMBIA PASSING BY ALL KINDS OF RIVERS AND TOWNS AND, AND WATER TREATMENT PLANTS.
THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND THE, THE UNIQUENESS OF OUR WATER QUALITY AND THEY, THEY PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO ENSURING THAT OUR WATER STAYS CLEAN.
CLEAN WATER IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE AND DIRTY WATER IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
OUR CONNECTION WITH THE WATER BODY, WITH THE MARSH IS, IS DEFINES WHO WE ARE.
AND, UH, AND THEY'RE REALLY, UH, REALLY GOOD AT PROTECTING IT.
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I'M, UH, MATT STORM.I'M A PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FILM COMMISSION.
WELL, THERE'S A LITTLE SHOW, UH, CALLED THE RIGHTEOUS GEMSTONES.
IT'S AN HBO SHOW AND THEY'RE DOING SOME FILMING OUT ON HUNTING ISLAND.
DO Y'ALL WANNA SEE A SNAKE PEEK? WE GOTTA GO TO COMMERCIAL.
OH, I DON'T THINK WE GONNA TAKE A BREAK YET.
CAUSE GUESS WHAT? I WORE MY CLO AND JEANS
SO THIS PARTICULAR SERIES, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, IT'S ABOUT AN EVANGELICAL TELEVISION FAMILY.
DAN ROGERS, SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FILM COMMISSION.
IT'S, IT'S DONE WITH WITH GOOD HUMOR.
YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S HUMOR'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
AND DANNY MCBRIDE HAS, HE'S, HE'S THE CREATOR OF THE SHOW.
HE, HE PLAYS THE SON OF THE, THE MAIN PASTOR WHO IS PLAYED BY JOHN GOODMAN, THE GEMSTONE.
YOUR WHOLE MINISTRY IS SET UP TO SERVE THE GEMSTONES.
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED YOURSELF.
WELL, I PRAISE B TO HE, THEY WANTED, UH, NOT NECESSARILY THE LIGHTHOUSE, BUT THEY WANTED A REALLY, UM, UH, SECLUDED BEACH AREA.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET DOWN THERE.
UM, THEY'VE GOT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY TENTS.
THEY'VE GOT MASSIVE TENTS DOWN THERE.
UM, THEY HAVE A HUNDRED EXTRAS.
THEY'VE PROBABLY GOT 150 CREW.
THEY'VE GOT ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU WOULD NEED FOR, UH, SHOOTING THE SHOW.
WELL, ONE OF THE, THE REASONS OUR OFFICE EXISTS IS TO TRY TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOTH CREW CAST AND SUPPLIERS IN THE STATE.
AND THIS PARTICULAR, UH, SHOW, AS WE CALL IT, A SHOW HAS HIRED HUNDREDS OF NOT IF NOT THOUSANDS OF EXTRAS CREW AND SUPPLIERS IN THE STATE.
THEY, IT'S SUCH A BIG SHOW THAT THEY, THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO ALL PARTS OF THE STATE.
THEY'VE SHOT IN MYRTLE BEACH, THEY'VE SHOT IN THE UPSTATE, OF COURSE, THEY'RE BASED IN CHARLESTON AND NOW THEY'RE SHOOTING IN BEAUFORD BECAUSE THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN OF THE STATE AND TRY TO SHOW HOW THIS STATE WITH ALL ITS UNIQUE LOCATIONS CAN, CAN OFFER A SERIES LIKE THIS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY DO THEN DRAW ON ALL THE RESOURCES WITHIN THE STATE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
I GREW UP IN A HARD WORKING MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY.
WE WEREN'T RICH, BUT WE ALSO WEREN'T POOR.
AND WE ALSO DON'T REALLY CARE.
THAT'S KIND OF A BORING, LAME OR STORY
I I THINK IT'S REALLY WELL DIALED IN BEING FROM THE INDUSTRY.
UM, I KNOW IT CAN BE REALLY, UM, IT CAN GROUPS CAN REALLY OVERTAKE AN AREA AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF ENTITLEMENT THAT SOMETIMES COMES AND THESE GUYS HAVEN'T, HAVEN'T SHOWN THAT.
I THINK THAT THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY RESPECTFUL WITH THE PARK AND I THINK PARK IS RECIPROCATING THAT.
SO WORKING WITH THEM, UM, HAS, HAS BEEN A REALLY BENEFICIAL THING BOTH FOR THE PARK AND FOR THE COMPANY.
AND I THINK, UH, I THINK IT'S GREAT TO KIND OF FOSTER THAT, THAT COMMUNICATION AND THAT, UM, THAT UH, KIND OF, UH, UH, COOPERATION BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES, YOU KNOW, MAKES EVERYBODY HAPPY.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE PARKS AGAIN FOR STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND MAKING IT HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW, OUR STATE PARKS HAVE, HAVE A WONDERFUL, UM, MECHANISM IN PLACE TO NOT ONLY ALLOW THE CITIZENS TO STILL VISIT AND THEY MADE THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT AS A STATE AGENCY, JUST LIKE CORRECTIONS DID FOR HALLOWEEN WHEN THEY ALLOWED, UH, A CLOSED SECTION OF THEIR PRISON TO BE USED.
AND YOU KNOW, SO DIFFERENT STATE AGENCIES HAVE COME ON BOARD TO REALLY HELP US BE THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENGINE FOR THE STATE TO DRIVE THIS, THIS, UM, THIS INDUSTRY, THIS FILM INDUSTRY HERE TO THE STATE AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
EVERYBODY IN YOUR LINE KEEPS GETTING WATER UP THE NOTES.
YOU'RE GIVING 'EM BACK TOO FAR.
HOW ABOUT YOU DO IT YOUR WAY AND I'LL DO IT MINE SMOOTH MOVEMENTS.
YOU SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT THE WHOLE WORLD IN.