* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:03] IT'S 5 0 1. WELCOME TO OUR SCHEDULE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING. IT IS OUR CUSTOM THAT WE BEGIN BY RECITING THE PLEASURE FOR ALLEGIANCE. IF I COULD ASK YOU GUYS TO STAND AND RECITE THE PLEASURE FOR ALLEGIANCE PLEDGE ALLEG FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS UNDER GOD INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR. THANK YOU. ARE WE GOOD WITH ALL NOTIFICATIONS, HILLARY? YES. ADOPTION [4. ADOPTION OF AGENDA] OF THE AGENDA. UH, MAY I HAVE SOMEONE TO MAKE AN ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA? UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX. UH, WE DON'T, WE, I GUESS THEY DIDN'T RESPOND BACK, SO WE'LL JUST CONTINUE THIS TO OUR NEXT SCHEDULE MEETING. AT LEAST GIVE THEM ANOTHER CHANCE. UM, SO WHOMEVER MAKE THAT, UH, ADOPT THE AGENDA, COULD THEY, UH, JUST MAKE THAT NOTE? I, IF WE ADOPT THE AGENDA WITH THE REMOVABLE SIX AND SEVEN, WHICH WILL BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT JANUARY 2ND. SO THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA IS PROPERLY MADE IN SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF PROVING IT. ALL RIGHT. ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA HAS BEEN APPROVED. UM, [5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – October 27, 2022] HAVE EVERYONE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE OCTOBER 27TH, UH, MINUTES? YES. YES. ALL RIGHT. I GUESS I, TO MAKE THAT ADOPT, UH, MOTION TO MOVE TO ADOPT THE, UH, OCTOBER 27TH MINUTE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE OCTOBER 27, 20, 22 MINUTES. I'LL SECOND IT. PROBABLY MAY. AND SECOND TO ADOPT A, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. IT'S BEEN APPROVED. UM, IF THERE IS ANYONE IN HERE FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE SHOULD BE, UM, SOME SLIPS OVER THERE. IF ANYONE IS HERE FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT. IF NOT, THEN SHOULD BE. OKAY. UM, ITEM [8. Mr. Javier Zavaleta & Ms. Lucila Santos are requesting a Variance to keep a front porch and carport that is built 18-feet from the front property line. Property is located at 20 Mammy Grant Road, Bluffton. The property is zoned T3-Edge (T3E).] NUMBER EIGHT, MR. VEER, AER AER IS HERE, UH, FOR VARIANCE FOR FRONT PORCH AND CARPORT. YOU CAN COME FORWARD AND I, I WORK WITH, UH, OUT HERE. OKAY. NO, NO. RIGHT TO THE PODIUM. DOES HE, DO HE SPEAK? YEAH, HE SPEAKS PRETTY GOOD ENGLISH. OKAY. JUST ENLIGHTEN US ON WHY YOU ARE HERE. JUST LET US KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE. TO THE MIC. OKAY. SO YOU CAN, CAN TRANS SHE CAN, THIS IS HIS DAUGHTER. THAT'S FINE. IF YOU CAN JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND JUST LET US KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE. UM, YOU SAID STATE HIS NAME OR MY NAME? YOUR, WELL, YOUR NAME NOW. MY NAME IS EMILY AND YES. COULD YOU SPEAK UP AND INTO THE MIC? UH, MY NAME IS EMILY AND, UM, WE'RE HERE BECAUSE, UM, SO OUR, UM, I GUESS THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH OUR PORCH, BUT, UM, UH, WE NEED IT BECAUSE MY SISTER IS, UH, SPECIAL ED AND WE NEED A RAMP TO BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT HER INTO THE CAR WHENEVER IT'S LIKE RAINY OR WHEN THE WEATHER'S BAD. OKAY. UM, IS IT OKAY IF I SPEAK? YES, PLEASE. SO I JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND COME TO THE MIC. MY NAME IS, UH, AND HARDING. UM, I'M, UH, BEEN LIVING IN BU FOR TWO YEARS. I WORKED WITH AER, UH, WORK FOR A BUILDING COMPANY, MOST OF THE WORK OVER AND BLOCK SOME OVER YOUR OWN DAD, BOB. UM, HE'S BUILT A PORCH ONTO THE FRONT OF HIS TRAILER ON, UH, MAMY GRANT ROAD. AND DIDN'T FOLLOW THE PROCESS, DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS ABOUT THE PERMITTING, ZONING AND ALL THAT. GOT THE PORCH, UH, MOSTLY COMPLETE, ALMOST COMPLETED. UM, NEEDS A LITTLE SIDING TO WRAP IT UP. AND I THINK THERE WAS A ZONING OFFICIAL ACROSS THE STREET WHO, UH, WHILE THEY WERE THERE CHECKING ON A BUILDING THAT WAS APPARENTLY ACROSS THE LINE IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN. CAME ACROSS THE STREET AND ASKED HIM IF HE HAD A PERMIT. AND THAT'S HOW THIS ALL STARTED. AND HE ASKED ME TO HELP HIM UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON. UM, BASICALLY HE'S BUILT THE PORCH ONTO THE FRONT OF HIS TRAILER TO, UH, HELP WITH HIS DAUGHTER WITH CEREBRAL PAUSING. THEY DO ALL FOR, UH, PHYSICAL THERAPY OUTSIDE. UM, IT'S, UH, THE SPACE IS WIDE OPEN ON THE PORCH. IT WAS VERY CONFINED IN THE TRAILER. UM, SHE GETS PHYSICAL THERAPY THREE TIMES A WEEK. MM-HMM. , YES. TIMES A WEEK, THREE TIMES PER WEEK. UM, HE IS APPARENTLY BEYOND THE VER THE, UH, SETBACK BY ABOUT A FOOT EIGHT INCHES BEYOND WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE. UM, WHERE [00:05:01] HOPING THERE CAN BE A VARIANCE ISSUED SO THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE MONETARY COST OF GETTING THIS PORCH REDUCED AND THE SPACE REDUCED WHEN IT'S BEING USED FOR, YOU KNOW, HIS DAUGHTER'S THERAPY. AND REALLY, I'VE BEEN DOWN MAMY GRAND ROAD AND ANYBODY MAKING AN IMPROVEMENT TO A HOUSE ON THAT ROAD IS A, IS A GOOD PAINT, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND IT IS INSIDE THE SETBACK. WHAT TYPE OF WORK DID DO, DOES HE DO? UH, HE'S A PAINTER. HE'S A PAINTER. SO HE'S IN THE CONSTRUCTION ARENA THEN? HE HE IS, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFERENT ON THE PAINTING END. THERE'S NEVER ANY PERMITS TO BOLD ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT HIS GENERAL LIABILITY AND HIS INSURANCE AND EVERYTHING. WORKERS CONFLICT. THERE'S PAINTERS NEVER HAVE TO PULL PERMITS LIKE A BUILDER WOULD, OR AN ELECTRICIAN OR HEATING MIRROR. MM-HMM. . SO I DON'T THINK HE QUITE UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS THAT HE SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH. AND HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN STAYING THERE? IN BU IN, UH, HOW LONG HAVE Y'ALL BEEN IN BU UM, YEAH, I HAD 16 YEARS. 16 YEARS. AND HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN IN BUSINESS? HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD A BUSINESS? UH, I STARTED ABOUT 2000 , UM, THINK 67. MM-HMM. . OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I DO. DID HE BUILD HIS PORCH OR DID SOMEONE BUILD A FOR HIM? HE'S BUILT HIS PORCH WITH ALPHA FRIENDS. OKAY. SO NO CONTRACTORS WERE INVOLVED? NO. AND WHAT'S DIMENSIONS OF THE PORCH? UH, THE WIDTH IS ABOUT 4 12 14 . 14 BY 14 BY 16, 14 FEET OFF THE TRAILER TOWARDS THE ROAD. MM-HMM. 16 FEET WIDE. MM-HMM. . OKAY. I'M QUE DO, DO ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. WHAT WE GONNA DO IS HEAR FROM THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYBE HEAR FROM THE COUNTY. THERE YOU GO. AND YOU GUYS READ MY, MY RECOMMENDATION, UM, I I I GUESS TWO FEET IS OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HARDSHIP IS. I AGREE. I AGREE. 1.8, MAKE IT LITTLE NICER. YEAH. 1.8 ADD GRANT THE MOD TO, YOU CAN GIVE THE VARIANCE FOR THE, IT'LL BE 7.8 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A 25 1 SIZE. THE HOUSE IS AT 21, 1 IS AT 18. AND, UM, I COULD GIVE THE MODULATION OF FIVE FEET TO 20. SO, BUT IT DOESN'T INTERRUPT ANYTHING THESE INCHES. DOES IT? I MEAN, IT DOESN'T INTERRUPT CARS DRIVING BY OR ANYTHING. RIGHT. THE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANNA START SETTING THE PRESENCE OVER THERE. I I, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS JUST IN THE FESTIVE SPIRIT. UM, RIGHT. WELL, IT WAS A HARD CHECK. UH, HILLARY, YES. IF WE GRANT THE VARIANCE, DOES HE HAVE TO GO BACK? THIS NEEDS TO BE INSPECTED. HE'S GONNA HAVE TO GO TO BUILDING CODES FOR A BUILDING PERMIT. OKAY. I HAVE TO GIVE HIM A ZONING PERMIT. AND YES, I SAY, COME ON UP. THIS IS CODE ENFORCEMENT. IT'S 15. HI OFFICER GAER, BUFORT COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT. I ALSO WORK, I'M PART OF THE BUILDING CODES DEPARTMENT, EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT A BUILDING INSPECTOR, I'M A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. I JUST WANNA MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE THAT IF YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS, THEY WILL COME AND GET A PERMIT FROM THE ZONING DEPARTMENT. BUT THE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT WILL MAKE THEM GET A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO SIGN OFF ON THIS. SO, AND IF IT IS ATTACHED TO THE MOBILE HOME, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO TAKE IT OFF. [00:10:01] CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T ATTACH SOMETHING TO THE MOBILE HOME. YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, YEAH. YEAH. YOU CAN'T ADD, UM, A STRUCTURE LIKE THAT TO THE MOBILE HOME. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A GAP BETWEEN THE MOBILE HOME I GOT AND THE, AND THE, I MEAN, IF HE TOOK A SAW ON AND CUT ALL THE NAILS, HE'D BE GOOD. SO ALL WE ARE HERE FOR IS THE MARS. IT WOULD BE THE BEARANCE. HE HAS TO DEAL WITH BUILDING CODES ON HIS OWN. AND IF HE CAN'T, THEN HE HAS TO TAKE IT DOWN. IS IT ATTACHED TO THE MOBILE HOME? IS THAT STRUCTURE ATTACHED TO THE MOBILE HOME? YES. THE, THE ROOF COMES UP ONTO ROOF? YES. IS IT ATTACHED TO IT THEN? YES, THAT'S ALL THE, BUT THAT HE CAN DEAL WITH THAT SEPARATELY. I MEAN, THAT'S, BUT THAT BUILDING CODES WILL DEAL WITH HIM ON THAT. I D KNOW. YEAH. I HAVE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THAT I CAN GET TO COME OUT ON SITE AND LOOK AT IT TO GET YOU CAN'T, I I I IT CAN'T BE ATTACHED TO THE MOBILE. YOU CAN'T ATTACH ANYTHING. BUT EVEN THE STEPS CAN BE ATTACHED TO THE MOBILE HOME. IF THE HOME'S ON A PERMANENT FOUNDATION. DO THE RULES CHANGE? I DON'T. WELL, BECAUSE THINK SO. IT'S STILL A MOBILE HOME. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. IT CHANGES. IF, IF IT IS, UM, TAXED SEPARATELY THAN THE LAND, LIKE A MOBILE HOME NORMALLY IS, THEN THAT'S ONE THING. BUT IF IT'S ATTACHED TO THE LAND, THEN IT BECOMES NO, BUT IT'S STILL A MOBILE HOME. EXACTLY. YEAH. EVEN, EVEN WHEN YOU TAKE THE WHEELS OFF AND YOU DO WHATEVER AND YOU MAKE IT LAND AND IN A HOME LIKE A REGULAR STICK BED HOME, IT'S STILL A MOBILE HOME AND YOU CAN'T ADD ANYTHING TO A MOBILE HOME. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GIVE HIM THE VARIANCE AND WE CAN SAY IT'S OKAY FOR US, BUT I THINK HE'S GONNA RUN INTO PROBLEMS. SO REALLY IF WE, EVEN IF, IF WE WERE TO GRANT THIS, IT STILL MIGHT HAVE TO ALL RIGHT. IF WE WEREN'T TO GRANT IT WOULD, AND HE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES, UH, BECAUSE HE'S ATTACHED AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING. AND I THINK IF THAT'S, COULD HE DO THAT AT THE SAME TIME TO CUT OFF? WELL, MY THING, IF YOU GIVE ME THE LATITUDE TO SAY, IF HE HAS TO MAKE CHANGES, THEN HE HAS TO MEET THE 20. YEAH. OKAY. THEN THAT'S, I'M OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE THEN I CAN GRANT THE FIVE MM-HMM. . BUT YOU KNOW, IF HE HAS TO MAKE CHANGES AND KEEP IT AT EIGHT BECAUSE HE'S GONNA HAVE TO PULL IT AWAY FROM THE HOUSE A LITTLE BIT, THAT'S WHAT I'M, AND I THINK HE CAN MAKE THE CHANGE TO KEEP IT, TO MAKE IT NEAT. THE 20 FEET AT THE SAME TIME. WELL, CAN YOU DO THAT ONE IF IT WAS A MODULAR HOME THAT IT ROLLS CHANGES? I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THEY'RE BUILT DIFFERENTLY. YEAH. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEIR MODULARS ARE BUILT TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE REGULAR MOBILE HOMES. SO IS THIS A MOBILE HOME OR IS IT MODULAR? IT'S A MOBILE. MOBILE HOME. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF GRANTING THE VARIANCE AND THEN LET HIM MOVE FORWARD AND DO WHAT HAS TO BE DONE THEN. HMM. I THINK, I THINK YOU SHOULD ADD, IF HE HAS TO TAKE IT APART, THAT'LL MEET THE YES. BUT HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, WE DON'T KNOW. HE COULD BE ABLE TO MODIFY IT WITHOUT DOING MUCH WORK TO IT. SO I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT IF YOU GUYS SAY IT'S OKAY FOR ME, I, I CAN'T OVERRIDE YOUR BEARANCE ONCE IT'S GRANTED, IT'S GRANTED AND IT RUNS WITH THE LAND. SO IN OTHER WORDS, I HEAR WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF HE HAS TO GO TO THE EXPENSE OF TAKING IT DOWN, AND THEN IT SHOULD NOT BE, THE VARIANCE SHOULD BE HE SHOULD DRAWN ONLY IF HE DOESN'T HAVE TO. WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE HIM PAY EXTRA MONEY. RIGHT. AND HE COULD JUST MODIFY AND NOT RIGHT. HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN. I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW. BUT IF ZONING SAYS HE HAS TO, OR THE, UM, CODES SAYS HE HAS TO AND HE HAS TO RE DRIVE, THEN HE HAS TO BE, BUT IF THEY'RE DETACH IT, HE COULD STRUCTURALLY DO IT SOME DIFFERENT WAY WITHOUT CORRECT. FROM THE BACK OF THE PORCH JUST ATTACHED. RIGHT. THE BACK IN THE REST, THE FRONT WOULD BE OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT? SO YOU JUST, I'M, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE IT'S A MOBILE HOME. IT MAY BE MODULAR, SO YEAH, I'M SURE THERE'S A WAY WE CAN, IF THE, IT'S A MOBILE HOME. IT'S LISTED AS A MOBILE HOME. IS IT SEPARATELY? I DIDN'T, I WAS LISTENING TO THE NOTES DEPARTMENT. SO IF HE HAVE TO TEAR THIS THING DOWN, HE, [00:15:01] WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT I'M HEARING IS HE SHOULD BE WITHIN THE CODES IF HE HAVE TO TEAR THIS THING DOWN, IF HE BUILDS IT BACK UP. BUT IF NOT, WE ARE WILLING TO GRANT HIM THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS ONE POINT WHATEVER FEE IF HE KEEPS THIS STRUCTURE RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, LIKE YOUR STRUCTURE HERE MM-HMM. , I DON'T HOW TO WORK IT. I KNOW. WELL, ALL, YEAH. I MEAN IF IT'S, IF HE HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN, THEN WE JUST HAVE TO COME BUILD IT BACK UP TO CODE. I MEAN, BEING, IT, IT'S RECORDED AS A MOBILE HOME, BUT LOOKS LIKE THAT THERE'S STRUCTURE IN FRONT OF THE MOBILE HOME. AND SO EVEN IF IT'S ATTACHED, THEY COULD JUST UNATTACH IT AND IT LIKE, YES. I KINDA THINK THAT TOO. I THINK SO. MM-HMM. ? I THINK SO. RIGHT. WHAT'S THE PLEASURE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GRANT THE VARIANCE. I'LL SECOND IT. ANY CONDITIONS? WE GOT TO BE SOME CONDITIONS. UM, WELL, THE REST WOULD BE BETWEEN HIM AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND CODE. THAT WOULDN'T BE OUR FIGHT. WELL, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SETTING THE PRECEDENT OF ALLOWING A VARIANCE. I'M GONNA NEED SOME FINDING FINDINGS OF FACTS. YES. , . SO WHAT ARE YOU BASING IT ON? WHAT'S THE HARDSHIP? HARDSHIP IS DAUGHTER. YEAH. WELL I THINK THAT'S MORE LIKE A SOFT PART. MAYBE . YEAH, BUT THAT AIN'T, THAT AIN'T NOTHING. UM, I DON'T WANT TO THINK MY HEART AS NOT SOFT, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAN, JUST GOTTA MEET THE GOALS. ONE OF THE THINGS I, I THINK ABOUT IF HE HAD CAME BEFORE US FOR PARENTS PRIOR TO BUILDING THIS, WOULD I BE IN FAVOR OF GRANDING? THIS BEARANCE? SO THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD FEEL NOW. RIGHT. AND IF IT'S, I THINK THE HARDSHIP IS IF THEY NEED THE, UM, ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE PHYSICAL THERAPY OF THE DAUGHTER, THAT THAT IS A HARDSHIP THAT THE VARIANT SHOULD BE GRANTED. BUT COULD THEY STILL HAVE THERAPY WITH THAT 1.8 FEET LESS THAN WHAT THEY HAVE? COULD THEY STILL UTILIZE THAT? I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE THE, THE HARDSHIP. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THERAPY IS FOR HOW MUCH SPACE IT TAKES, BUT THEY DECIDED THAT THIS WAS THE SIZE THAT THE, THEY NEEDED FOR THE THERAPY SO THAT THE HARDSHIP IS A SPECIAL USE OF THIS PORCH. AND IT'S NOT JUST A, A, A PORCH IN THAT IT IS, UM, A SPACE FOR PHYSICAL THERAPY FOR THEIR DAUGHTER. RIGHT. SO THAT'S, SO YOU STATING THAT THE HARDSHIP IS THEY NEED THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE THERAPY. THAT'S THE HARDSHIP. THE OTHER THING THAT WAS MENTIONED HERE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WAS THE RANT. MM-HMM. , THERE'S NO RANT. MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD IT YET. OKAY. JUST HAVEN'T, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THEM. I MEAN, THEY MIGHT GOING TO BE BUILT OR WHAT'S OKAY. IT'S GONNA TO BE BUILT. THEY TOLD IT TO STOP. YEAH, I GOTCHA. YOU. OKAY. WHERE IS THAT GUY? IT'S IT NOT THE FRONT. IT'S GOING CAR INSIDE THE TRUCTURE. THAT'S WHERE THE IS, UH, NO, I DON'T THINK THE, WELL, MS. JANE, YOU GOTTA GO DOWN ALL THIS STUFF AND, AND SAY WHY. UM, WHERE'S THE OTHER THING PLACE? OKAY. THE, [00:20:01] WHERE'S THE, I CAN'T, I JUST HAVE THE SECOND'S. SEE HERE IT GOES. GOT IT. YEP. UM, OKAY. UM, I LOOK AT THE ONE GO WITH THIS ONE I D THAT THIS IS OH, WHAT'S THAT? YOU GO FOR THE RECOMMENDATION? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO DOES SHEPA, THERE ARE EXTRAORDINARY EXCEPTIONAL CONDITIONS DUE TO THE, UM, USE OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE PHYSICAL THERAPY OF THEIR DAUGHTER. THAT THE PORCH NEEDS TO BE THE SIZE THAT IT IS. UM, THE HEALTH OF THE DAUGHTER IS NOT ON THE, UM, ACTIONS OF THE LANDOWNER THAT THEY NEED THE PORCH FOR THE PHYSICAL THERAPY. THE, UM, DOES NOT CONFER SPECIAL PRIVILEGES ON THE LANDOWNER BECAUSE IT'S DUE TO THE PHYSICAL THERAPY NEED OF HIS DAUGHTER. AND IT'S NOT A, UM, SPECIAL PRIVILEGES, UM, THE, UM, IT'S NECESSARY TO ALLOW THE REASONABLE USE FOR THE PHYSICAL THERAPY OF THE DAUGHTER. UM, THE, THE, THAT IT'S NOT IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL PURPOSE AND INTENT OF DEVELOPMENT CODE IS THAT IT IS JUST A, UM, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS, UM, THE PROPERTIES ARE NOT TY SOME OF THEM ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. SO IT IS NOT, UM, SO IT FALLS IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGHT. UM, THE VARIANCE PERMIT WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HEALTH SAFETY OF PERSONS RESIDING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, IN FACT IT WOULD HELP THE, THE DAUGHTER OF THE APPLICANT AND UM, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I BELIEVE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE REALLY LOOK AT THE HEALTH OF OUR, UM, CITIZENS AND TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE PHYSICAL THERAPY AT HOME FOR THIS YOUNG WOMAN OR YOUNG GIRL WOULD BE IN KEEPING WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OKAY. VERY GOOD. , I NEED TO ASK ONE MORE QUESTION. THE ROOF, AS I SEE THE DRAW THE PICTURE, THE ROOF COMES OUT ABOUT THE SAME AS WHERE THE, THE DECK COMES OUT, IS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FLUSHED. SO IF, IF THE, IF THEY MOVE THE DECK BACK, WHATEVER UNDERNEATH, CAN THE ROOF STICK OUT BEYOND THE VARIANCE? SO HE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO REBUILD THE, UH, THE ROOF, JUST THE, THE BOTTOM PART, BUT THE BOTTOM PART, YOU KNOW, AND, AND MOVE THE THING UP. AND YOU CAN KEEP THE ROOF UP BY, BY HAVING SOMETHING ON TOP TO KEEP IT RIGHT. AM I RIGHT? YOU GUYS DON'T, BUT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD LOSE THE, THE AREA FOR THE PHYSICAL THERAPY. YOU, YOU, YOU'D LOSE A FOOT OR WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT. ONE, ONE PLANK, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO TELL ME THAT THAT PLANK IS, IS NEEDED AND IF IT IS, IT IS THAT PLANK IS NEEDED FOR, UH, PHYSICAL THERAPY FOR YOUR CHILD. AND IF IT IS IT IS AND THEN THERE'S, THEN YOU VIEW IT DIFFERENTLY OR I WOULD VIEW IT DIFFERENTLY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT OR NOT. AND IT'S TOUGH TO ANSWER. THE THERAPIST ASKED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT SPACE. I THINK WE GONNA SPEAK INTO THE MIC TOO. HUH? I NEED TO STEP UP. YEAH, YEAH. OH YEAH. TO ANSWER. UM, WHOMEVER'S GONNA BE SPEAKING. WE NEED TO HAVE YOU GUYS COME UP TO THE MIC WHILE YOU'RE COMING UP. THEY MAY NEED SPACE JUST TO TURN THE WHEELCHAIR AROUND. [00:25:01] OKAY. I'M NOT SAYING EXACTLY WELL REALLY HELP PUMA. HUH? . WELL, IT, I'M DOING BOTH. THE WAY THEY'RE, I'M TRYING TO JUSTIFY IT OR WHATEVER. THE WAY THEY'RE EXPLAINING IT TO ME IS THE THERAPIST ASKED FOR AS MUCH SPACE AS POSSIBLE. SO HE BUILT WHAT WAS WITHIN HIS MONETARY RANGE. UM, NOT KNOWING. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIMITATIONS CUZ OF A SETBACK. UM, THEY APPARENTLY YOU'RE GONNA PUT SWINGS AND OTHER ITEMS OUT ON THE PORCH THAT HELP WITH PHYSICAL THERAPY. UM, I'M NOT SURE WE COULD SAY IF IT WAS 10 FEET IT WOULD NOT BE BIG ENOUGH. 10 FOOT SIX IS BIG ENOUGH. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE UP TO A THERAPIST TO ONE OF THE PHYSICAL THERAPISTS TO DETERMINE THAT THEY DID ASK FOR AS MUCH SPACE AS POSSIBLE. HMM. IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE ON THAT ROOF, YOU CAN SEE THAT LAST ROOF TRUSS UP IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE THERE THAT YOU TOOK A CIRCULAR SAW, YOU CAN JUST CUT AWAY AND IT'D BE MM-HMM. SEPARATE THE BACK COUPLE FEET AND IT HAD TO BE THE END OF IT. YEAH. CAUSE IT'S SUPPORTED BY THE POST FROM WHAT I SEE HERE. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S SO IT WOULD BE DETACHED TO, TO DETACH IT FROM THE UH, RIGHT. THE WAY I, UNDER THE WAY I REMEMBER SEEING IT, THE PICTURE'S HARD TO TELL, BUT THE ROOF LIGHT COMES OFF OF THE FRONT OF THE PORCH. THE POST THAT YOU'RE SEEING COMES UP AND REST ON THE ROOF OF THE MOBILE. THE UM, YEAH, THE MODULAR MOBILE WOULD, I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE IT IS, BE A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY THAT'S FOR THEM TO DECIDE AFTER WE'RE DONE HERE. YEAH. RIGHT. WELL, I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A WAY OUT, CORRECT? I THINK SO. ALL RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW. I, I, I TEND TO THINK A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BUT YOU KNOW, UM, BUT IT'S EMOTIONAL. THE FLOOR, THE GRANTED THE VARIANCE. MM-HMM. AND DID SOMEONE SECOND THAT? YEAH. YEAH I DID. SO IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MADE. AND SECOND, ALL IN FEAR OF GRANTING THE VARIANCE, UM, SIGNIFIED BY RAISING YOUR HAND, THOSE WHO OPPOSE OF THE VARIANCE SIGNIFIED BY RAISING YOUR HAND. SO THAT'S 1, 2, 3 TO TWO. SO I GUESS YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AWARDED THE VARIANCE TOO, AND I GUESS YOU JUST FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE COUNTY NOW ON CODES. WE'LL, I'LL HELP HIM GET THROUGH THAT. GET TO THE DEPARTMENT AND GET THE PERMIT AND SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. FORGOT TO ASK, WAS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ? NO. WE CLOSED PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, ANY OLD BUSINESS? DID WE WANT TO DO THE, UH, NO MEETING FOR NEXT MONTH UNDER THE OLD BUSINESS OR THE NEW BUSINESS? BUSINESS? NEW BUSINESS? UM, ITEM [11. NEW BUSINESS Adoption of Chairperson and Vice Chairperson.] NUMBER 11, NEW BUSINESS. UH, SEE WE HAVE ADOPTION CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIR. DO WE WANT TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR TO DO THAT? YEAH, LET'S WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR. AND ALSO ON THE NEW BUSINESS FOR OUR DECEMBER, 2022 MEETING. I MOVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT MEETING. SO IT'S BEEN PROBABLY MADE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE OUR MEETING IN DECEMBER AND IT'S BEEN PROBABLY MADE IN SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? SO WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT MEETING IN THE MONTH OF, UH, DECEMBER. UM, ADJOURNMENT. WILL WE ADJOURN? PROBABLY MADE IN THIS WHO? SECOND I. OKAY. SO IT'S BEEN PROBABLY MADE SECOND. ALL OF FAVOR OF AJOUR. YOU GUYS HAVE A HAPPY, HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND A MERRY A VERY CHRISTMAS, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR. YEAH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.