Nov 02, 2022 Town of Bluffton Historic Preservation Commission

[I. CALL TO ORDER]

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. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND IT'S WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 17TH AND MARCH 2022 AND IT'S 6:00. YOU ARE HERE TO CALL THE ORDER. YOU CAN ROLL CALL CHAIRMAN BRUCE TIMBER PRESIDENT VICE CHAIRMAN JUSTICE ALLMAN PRESIDENT COMMISSIONER MARY BUXBAUM COMMISSIONER GARY SMELTZER PRESENT COMMISSIONER EVAN GOODWIN PRESENT COMMISSIONER SIMPSON COMMISSIONER KALEKA FRAZIER PRESENT WE A QUORUM CORRECT.

OKAY JUST ALWAYS CHECKING IN. IS THERE ANY PERSON THAT NEEDS TO RECUSE FOR ANY PURPOSES WITH

[III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT]

NO THANK YOU FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION WILL NOT NEW ITEMS AFTER 9:30 P.M.

UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT ITEMS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE 9:30 P.M. MAY CONTINUE TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OR SPECIAL DATE AS

[IV. NOTICE REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENTS]

[V. ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA]

[VI. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

SO THE FIRST ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES WOULD BE FOR OCTOBER FIRST OF 2022.

I HOPE EVERYONE'S READ THROUGH THEM AND I'M LOOKING FOR AN ADOPTION OF THOSE MINUTES AND A MINUTE MOTION MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES YOU AND I GET A SECOND SECOND.

THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSIONS IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, I'M AND THE MINUTES ARE PASSED AS WRITTEN. THANK FOR WRITING SO NICELY AND WE HAVE A SECOND MEETING THE SPECIAL MEETING THAT WAS ON OCTOBER 17TH 2022. I'M ALSO LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT THOSE MINUTES. I'M A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 17TH.

LET'S SEE EVERYONE YOU WERE IN THAT MEETING SO YOU WEREN'T AT THE FIRST MEETING THOUGH SO CORRECT. YEAH SO THAT'S STILL GOOD. SO HER VOTE WAS NEGATED.

SO THE SECOND ONE WE HAVE A MOTION LOOKING FOR A SECOND SECOND HAVE A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION I YOU WEREN'T THERE SO IT WAS AT THE MINUTE I SHOULDN'T HAVE SECONDED THAT THAT'S RIGHT YEAH. YEAH SO WE HAVE A PROBLEM HE WASN'T AT THE MEETING I THINK.

WELL HE WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING WEREN'T YOU KNOW I MISSED ALL LAST MONTH BECAUSE I RECUSE MYSELF FROM PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IT SO TECHNICALLY THERE'S ONLY THREE PEOPLE OF THE FOUR GENDER IF THAT MAKES FROM THAT ONE MEETING SO THERE'S A IT'S FINE OKAY YOU SIR WELL THAT'S FINE. SO THEREFORE WE'RE LOOKING FOR A VOTE ON THAT ADOPTION OF THE MEETING. WE DID HAVE A SECOND SO ON ADOPTION OF THE MEETING MINUTES

[VII. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

[VIII.1. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by William Court of Court Atkins Architects, LLC, on behalf of the owners, Jeffrey and Leslie Crook for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness - HD to allow the construction of a new 2.5-story Single Family Residential structure of approximately 4,866 SF with attached Carriage House 1,135 SF to be located at 6 Shell Rake Street, identified as Lot 31 in the Tabby Roads Development, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-HD. (COFA-11-21-016502) (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

IT IS OLD SO YOU ARE ALL IN ATTENDANCE THESE SEPTEMBER WHATEVER THE FIRST WEDNESDAY IN SEPTEMBER WAS MEETING AND SO I WILL RUN THROUGH THAT FAIRLY QUICKLY.

HOWEVER I HAVE ALL OF THE PICTURES SO YOU CAN GO BACK TO LOOK AT THINGS AS NEED BE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. SO THIS IS A REFERENCE TO A LOT OF INFECTION I'VE BEEN YOU TWO

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SO THE HERE AND THE REVISED HERE I 59 FLOATING ON THIS REVISED PLAN NO HOW ARE THE FLOOR PLANS FOR ALL OF THEM HAVE CHANGED VERY MINIMALLY THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ARE A FEW THINGS ON EXTERIOR WALLS THAT HAVE BEEN MODIFIED BUT THE MAIN TAKEAWAYS FROM THE FIRST FLOOR IS THAT THE POCKET DOORS HAVE BEEN ADDED AND REMOVED INTERNALLY SO YOU WILL NOT SEE THEM ON THE OUTSIDE AND A FEW FLOOR LAYOUTS THE PANTRY AND THE THOSE AREAS HAVE CHANGED JUST A BIT. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS HAS CHANGED FROM A REAL DOOR TO A POCKET DOOR POCKET OR AN INTERNAL INTERNALLY IT'S ALL INTERNAL IT'S ALL INTERNAL NOTHING EXTERNAL IS THAT CORRECT? WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LOCATIONS IN WHICH WINDOWS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED ON THE EXTERNAL PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE SECOND STORY IS ABOUT THE SAME SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LAYOUT CHANGE HERE.

HOWEVER IT IS PRIMARILY THE SAME ON THE INTERNAL HERE THE ORIGINAL ATTIC VERSUS THE PROPOSED BY KIND OF BED. SORRY I'LL GO DOWN THIS IS THE ORIGINAL LET'S JUST THIS IS WHAT WAS PROPOSED INITIALLY. YES AND WHAT HAS BEEN REVISED I DO PROPERTIES OUT PLANS AND SO THEY ARE NOT EXACTLY YOU CAN THAT IT MOVES ON THE FRONT AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF WHERE IT PASTED IT NOT BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE ANYTHING TOO DRASTIC TO CHANGE LIKE LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S IT'S PROBABLY I'VE DONE AND THEN THE ORIGINAL ROOF PLAN AND REVISED PLAN I DID HIGHLIGHT ON HERE WHERE THE ROOF HAVE CHANGED A BIT SO YOU CAN SEE IT ON HERE THE REAR SECTION HERE WENT FROM ONE AND A QUARTER AND 12 TO 1 AND AN EIGHTH AND 12 THE MAIN BASE THE STRUCTURE WHICH ARE THESE OOPS THESE TWO HIGHLIGHTS HERE WENT FROM FIVE AND A HALF TO SIX AND A HALF IN 12 AND THEN THE FRONT PORCH HERE WENT FROM TWO AND A HALF TO TWO AND 12. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A THERE.

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON THE ELEVATIONS.

SO THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION, THE ORIGINAL AND THE REVISED YOU SEE WHICH IS HARD FOR IT.

I KNOW WHEN IT JUST CHANGED JUST FROM 2 TO 2 TWO AND A HALF IT JUST LOOKS LIKE YEAH YOU'RE NOT SO MUCH LIGHTER FLUID BUT REALLY HERE'S YOUR CHANGE. OKAY? YEAH. OKAY SO THE ORIGINAL THE RIDGE LINE OF THE HOUSE HERE IS AT 3410 INCHES AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO 33 ONE. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THAT ROOF THAT I HIGHLIGHTED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE HAS TAKEN PLACE THERE I THINK I MAY THINK I MISSED THIS ONE HERE IS THAT THE BACK IS PROBABLY THE NO SO THAT WAS IT WAS SIX AND A HALF AND 12 AND IT'S BEEN DROPPED TO THE BOTTOM. SO THAT'S THE OTHER LOCATION HERE. OKAY. OKAY.

THE REAR ELEVATION AND REVISED REAR ELEVATION. SO AGAIN FOLKS OUT HERE MOSTLY WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS MY SHIFT THE PICTURE BECAUSE MY DIMENSIONS AREN'T PERFECT BUT AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL IS NOTHING NOW BECAUSE CAN'T SEE THROUGH BUILDINGS SO THEY'VE PROVIDED THE ADDITIONAL AND HERE'S THE REVISED THE ORIGINAL LEFT AND REVISED LEFT SO AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THAT LINE DROP AND THEN THE SUPPLEMENTAL FOR THE RIGHT ELEVATION ON BOTH I CAN HEAR SECTIONS OF DETAILS AND THE REVISED SECTION IN DETAIL AND I'M GOING TO SKIP THROUGH

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HERE'S ORIGINAL WINDOWS THE MIDDLE AND HOW MANY WERE THERE THERE.

OKAY. I THINK AND HERE'S THE REVISED SO YOU CAN SEE THIS ONE HERE WENT AWAY AND I BELIEVE THIS BOTTOM LEFT CORNER AWAY SO THIS IS NOT A63 SO SOME OF THESE THREE OR FOUR OR THIS ONE WENT AWAY AS WELL AND THEN THE TRANS ELEMENT WENT AWAY AS WELL AND THEN THE DOORS AND REVISED THIRD HERE THERE IS LITTLE BREAKDOWN OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE REVISED THEY ARE THE SAME THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT SAME YES AND I KNOW THAT WAS A MAJOR POINT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE WHOLE BODY LAST TIME. SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM THE PREVIOUS TO THIS ONE IS THE SAME EXTERIOR THE SAME SO SO HERE ARE THE REDUCTION EXHIBITS THAT SHOW EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED TO THE ELEVATION THEY PULLED IT DOWN FOR YOU HERE YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT CLEARER THAN WHEN I SAID THAT ON TWO DIFFERENT SLIDES.

SO THIS THE FRONT ELEVATION SO THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED THE EXTERIOR IT IS JUST THE ROOF FINISH AND THE WINDOWS ON THE SIDE WOULD HAVE TO SQUARE SOME OF THEIR MONEY FROM THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. I KNOW. BUT AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE MAJOR DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD THE MASSING AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE SO THAT NOTHING THERE AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THE CHANGE WHATSOEVER THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS REMAINED THE SAME BUT THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION THE LEFT ELEVATION SO THIS IS THE SIDE THAT IS INTERNAL TO ROSE IT IS THERE HERE IS RIGHT ON THE BED AND THE ROOFLINE REDUCED HERE HERE AND THEN ALL ALONG HERE AS WELL AS THE HEIGHT OF THE CHIMNEY AND THEN THE RIGHT ELEVATION WHICH THIS IS THE ELEVATION THAT WOULD BE TOWARDS BRUIN ROAD THERE IS THAT STREET AN ADDITIONAL LOT SO IT'S NOT FRONTING ANYTHING. SO THAT'S WHERE THE WINDOWS HAVE GONE AWAY AND THIS BEEN CHANGED TO A TRELLIS AS YOU CAN SEE AND THE ELEVATION SO THIS IS A PRESSURE TREATED WHAT CHARLES INSTEAD OF THOSE PANELS THAT WERE CHANGING MATERIAL AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS A STREETSCAPE AERIAL VIEW THAT THEY PROVIDED FOR US THAT YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT BETTER HOW THIS IS GOING TO FIT ON THE LOT COMPARED TO THE HOUSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING AND THAT ONE YES. AND THIS IS A STREETSCAPE OF THE SIDE ELEVATION THERE THIS IS L.A. PLAN I NOTED THERE IS THERE NO CHANGE ON THE CLASSIC PLANS? THIS IS THE SAME ONE WE WERE LOOKING AT PREVIOUSLY. OKAY.

THEY'RE MEETING REQUIREMENT AND THE CANOPY COVERAGE HERE ALSO HASN'T CHANGED SO THAT IT IS THE AGENCY CONSIDERS A NEW COURSE HERE WHICH IS SET FORTH IN 383 OF A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE FOR ASSESSING ALLOCATION FOR AND SIGNIFICANT APPROPRIATIONS.

THEY HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT THROUGH THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITION OR COMPANY APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT TOWN STAFF WHO REQUEST YOU TAKE THE FOLLOWING INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU DETERMINE HOW TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS APPLICATION. THE FIRST IS THAT THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT BECAUSE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE IS AN ATTACHED CARRIAGE HOUSE. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS IN THE HEIGHT IN BETWEEN.

THIS IS THE SAME COMMENT THAT WE HAD AT THE CONCEPTUAL LET ME ASK COMMISSIONER DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS AS WE GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS OR WE WANT ALL THE ITEMS DISCUSSED AND THEN GO BACK WITH THE STRUCTURE ALL OF THEM AND THEN DISCUSS YEAH I AGREE WITH THAT IN THAT WAY.

OKAY LET'S DO THAT. I DON'T I DON'T MEAN THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REPOSITIONED BE PARALLEL TO THE FRONT OF THE LOT. THIS IS ONE THAT WE'VE JUST GOT SIGNED AND THIS TEDDY ROOSEVELT THAT IS THE LOT THE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS SOME LESS THAN PERPENDICULAR LINES AND THIS IS THE STREETSCAPE WAS SPECIFICALLY PROVIDED HERE TO SHOW HOW CLOSE LINES WILL BE FACING WITH THE CORNER HERE AND THEN THE FUTURE THE FUTURE BUILDING ON THAT OTHER DOCUMENT WHICH I CAN PULL UP IN JUST A MINUTE THE NEXT ONE IS THAT THE

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TYPICALLY WE SEE BETWEEN FOUR AND FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF WINDOWS AND THEY ARE STILL EXCEEDING THAT NUMBER STILL AN ARBITRARY NUMBER. THE PAIN PROPORTION IS A PERCENTAGE THAT IS LAID OUT IN THE TRADITIONAL CONSTRUCTION WHICH IS THE SUPPLEMENT TEXT TO BE RESOLVED AS INDICATED IN SECTION 515. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT NUMBER IS COMING FROM. 4 TO 5 IS AN ARBITRARY NUMBER. THAT IS BECAUSE THAT IS AN AVERAGE OF WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE. SO IT MAY BE THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER JUST THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOTED AND THEY DID RELEASE IT BACK TO YOU BUT IT IS STILL EXCEEDING THAT PERCENTAGE. HOW MANY WE HAVE NOW AND AND OKAY WE REDUCED BY AND WE'RE OVER BY HOW MANY I'M SORRY WE WERE OVER BY APPROXIMATELY FIVE AND IN WORD IF I WAS READING YOUR NUMBERS AND KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU THINK THERE WERE NECESSARILY TO BEGIN WITH BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO BUT I'M JUST WE ALL ASK FOR YOUR COMMENTS AFTER WE GO THROUGH THIS. PLEASE.

AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WAS THE DETERMINATION ON THE USE OF AND SUBSTITUTE MATERIAL.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IS THAT FLASH MATERIAL THAT IS A RECYCLED MATERIAL I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO PHRASE IT. IT'S BYPRODUCT MATERIAL AND THAT IS THE NUMBER FIVE AS WELL FOR THE RAILINGS AND BALUSTRADES THE DOOR TABLE MUST BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE THE TYPE AND FINISH OF THE PROJECT PERIOD OR AS THEY DID LISTED ON SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS BUT THE DOOR TABLE STILL CALLS OUT THAT THEY'RE TO BE PICKED RIGHT THAT YOU SEE OR OWNER A DETERMINATION ON THE APPROPRIATENESS OF MESOSCALE STRUCTURES AND THAT WAS PART OF WHAT THE COMMISSION ASKED FOR ON THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION ITSELF INCLUDED AND THEN THEY TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS REQUIRED SO THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING ON THE ITEMS WERE FROM THE ORIGINAL STAFF REPORT IN SEPTEMBER.

I HAVE DETAILED THEM A LITTLE FURTHER IN THE STAFF REPORTS THAT YOU WILL HAVE ON YOUR PACKET AND IN WHICH IF YOU'RE WATCHING ONLINE IS AVAILABLE ON THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON WEBSITE THROUGH THE AGENDA CENTER SO THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT I HAVE THIS IS THAT SAME DRAWING THAT I HAD IN THE ORIGINAL POWERPOINT SHOWING WHERE THE EXTERNAL GREAT THING IS AND THEN THE INTERNAL RATE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HERE. SO THAT WAS WHERE THAT WAS BROUGHT INTO PLACE. THE AFRICAN IS HERE TO SEE IF THEY HAVE PROJECTS.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER BASED ON THE CODE AND SO THEY'RE ALL WORKING ON THE HEATED SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PRIMARY IS UNDER ON THE SQUARE THAT IS PERMITTED FOR A MAXIMUM. HOWEVER, THE MAXIMUMS ARE BASED ON THE ABILITY TO HOLD THE THE SITE BECAUSE IT IS A FORM BASED CODE .

SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE FOOTPRINT IS FOR THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.

THEY ARE STILL MEETING THE HEATED SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT FOR THE TO HAVE YOUR ROADS HRB AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN THERE'S NO DEFINITIVE SEPARATION BETWEEN THIS AND THAT SO THAT WAS JUST OVERALL FOOTPRINT TOO BIG BUT THE HEAT IT MAKES IT MAKES SO THE WAY THAT OUR AUDIENCE RATE SORT OF THE BUILDING SIZE WE DO THE MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT NOT INCLUDING IT'S FLAT IS MAXED OUT FOR THE HEAVY ROADS DEVELOPMENT PLAN THEY HAVE A TOTAL HEATED SQUARE FOOTAGE AND IF THE TOTAL HEATED FOOTPRINT I'M SORRY AND IF IT CARRIES OUT FOR THE THAT IN THE FIRST FLOOR IT DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T COUNT AT ALL FOR ITS IMMEDIATE SQUARE FOOTAGE PART OF THE FOOTPRINT ITS ENTIRETY ROADS BECAUSE THAT IS HOW THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS TOOK PLACE IN THE EARLY 2000S SO THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE HEAVY ROADS ARB WHICH CAN BE MORE RESTRICTIVE BUT NOT IN CONFLICT WITH OUR ORDINANCE OUR ORDINANCE HAS A MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT NOT INCLUDING PORCHES WHICH DOES NOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN HEATED AND UNHEATED STAYS ONLY ENCLOSED AND AN ENCLOSED SPACE. SO IT IS THE ENCLOSED SPACE FOOTPRINT FOR THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE WHICH THAT WAS FOUND IS IN EXCESS OF THE ALLOWABLE MAXIMUM FOR THIS ZONING AND OVER BY HOW MUCH 20 IT IS IN THAT SECOND QUARTER WHICH I CAN PULL UP BROKEBACK IS THAT 181 ONE 8120 OR SOMETHING NUMBER FOR THAT BRAND ONE ONE 181

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SO JUST AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AT THE SEPTEMBER 7TH MEETING THERE WERE TWO MOTIONS MADE I BELIEVE BOTH OF THEM WERE MADE BY COMMISSIONER SIMPSON, BOTH OF THEM FAILED ON A MOVE I WANT TO SAY 3 TO 4 AND THE TWO MOTIONS WERE LARGELY CONSISTENT WITH MOST OF THE MOTION STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT THE MASSING AND THE SCALE AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE CONDITION NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN WHAT I BELIEVE IS LISTED AS CONDITION NUMBER NINE THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT TO KIND OF GET YOU BACK TO WHERE THE DISCUSSION ENDED UP IN SEPTEMBER AT THE SEPTEMBER 7TH MEETING. THERE'S THERE ARE SQUARE FOOTAGE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT OF MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED FOR A CARRIAGE HOUSE AND THERE'S MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR A CENTER WHOLE BUILDING TYPE WHICH IS WHAT THE MAIN STRUCTURE PROPOSED HERE. IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE BUT OH NO IT'S ALL RIGHT. IS IT IS IT SEVEN? IT'S ALL RIGHT.

SO IN THIS PARTICULAR BECAUSE IT'D BE VERY, VERY SIMPLE TO FIGURE THE CALCULATIONS IF THIS WAS A DETACHED CARRIAGE HOUSE BUT BECAUSE IT IS AN CARRIAGE HOUSE, THE QUESTION IS WHERE DOES THAT LINE OCCUR TO AND WHERE IS THAT DIVIDING LINE? THE APPLICANT SAYS IT IS LARGELY ARBITRARY AND CAN BE LOCATED AS THE APPLICANT SEES FIT WHEREAS TO HAVE SAYS IT NEEDS TO BE IN CONFORMITY WITH WITH IT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FACADE AND WHICH ARE PROBABLY BOTH OF THEIR ARGUMENTS HERE BUT THAT'S THE WAY THAT I REMEMBER IT.

SO THE QUESTION AGAIN IS IF YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE CENTRAL BUILDING AND HAVE THAT HAVE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOCATED TO THE COACH HOUSE, THEN BOTH OF THEM FALL WITHIN PERMISSIBLE SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENTS IF.

HOWEVER YOU RELY ON THE STATE'S INTERPRETATION WHERE YOU LOOK AT THE NATURAL DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. HOWEVER THE TWO STRUCTURES THEN THE 100 THERE'S 181 EXTRA SQUARE FEET ON CENTER HALL BUILDING SO THIS IS JUST ARBITRARILY DRAWN.

HOWEVER IT MAKES IT SUITABLE FOR WHATEVER I MEAN I'M JUST SAYING I THINK THAT THE YOU KNOW THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THAT YOU KNOW, WOULD WOULD ALLOW FOR THE LAND TO BE DRAWN SO AS TO YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WHATEVER IS NEEDED GET IN THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT OR WHETHER STAFF'S INTERPRETATION THE IDEA THAT YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING YOU SEE WHERE THE YOU KNOW FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AND YOU APPLIED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE TWO AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE COMMISSION WAS A LITTLE BIT DIVIDED BUT ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE AND I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. SO I'LL TURN THIS OFF.

THANK YOU. OKAY. GET IT IF THEY CHANGE THE CONNECTOR FROM CLOSED END JUST LIKE AT THE GARAGE ENTRY IF THEY JUST MADE THAT NOT WILD WOOD THEN THAT CULT GETS TORCHED IT GOES. I FORGOT I DON'T HAVE MICROPHONES EVEN IF IT WAS AN ENCLOSED SPACE ENTIRELY THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.

YES BUT IF IT'S COVERED IF IT IS COVERED IT IS STILL IT COULD STILL BE A PORCH IF IS ENCLOSED IT IS NOT A PORCH SO THEY COULD ESSENTIALLY TAKE THAT GARAGE ENTRY AND MAKE IT JUST A COVERED PORCH AND JUST THAT WOULD KEEP A BUNCH OF SQUARE FOOTAGE POSSIBLY.

HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS THAT THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE QUESTION I GUESS IS THAT BOTTOM

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AREA OF COURSE WAS ABOUT 20% IS WHERE THAT PAINT PROPORTION SHOULD BE VOLUME.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT DETERMINING IT'S A PERCENTAGE PERCENTAGE AND NUMBER THAT IT MAY BE. I CAN DO SOME MATH FOR YOU ON THAT BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME A SECOND SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THAT CAN DEFINITELY HAVE THAT BE THE CASE AND FOR THE WINDOWS REALLY THE INTENT THAT THEY DON'T YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME WINDOWS THAT ARE LOOKING MORE SQUARE SO LOOKING MORE VERTICAL I THINK BASED ON THE APPLICATION AND ON THE WINDOWS SCHEDULES THEY'RE GOING TO KEEPING IN AROUND THE SAME PROPORTION KEEPING THE VERTICAL VERTICAL PROPORTION FOR THE MOST PART SO GOOD THE PAPER THAT ANYONE ELSE WOULD DISCUSSION BEFORE WE REALLY HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE APPLICANT WANT TO COME FORWARD, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A LITTLE MORE BEGINNING PLEASE AND WILLIAM THE COURT ACTIONSCRIPT OH ON BEHALF OF THE FOLKS WHO WERE HERE TWO MONTHS AGO FOR THE MEETING BUT COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY MOST OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE ON THE SUBMITTAL HAS FOCUSED ON SCALE AND MASS AND OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH KATIE IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WAS THE WHERE WE LEFT OFF MY RECOLLECTION THE MEETING IN SEPTEMBER WAS THAT THERE CERTAINLY WORK TO MOTION IS MADE BY MR. SIMPSON WE ULTIMATELY IT WAS TABLE BUT FROM CONVERSATION TAKING PLACE IN THOSE MOTIONS AND IN MY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD IT SEEMED LIKE AFTER EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION ITEM ONE WHICH WAS PREDOMINANTLY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE INTERPRETING OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE CORRECTLY I THINK WE LANDED ON IT. IT WAS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR THAT WOULD FALL TO YOU GUYS BUT THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION THE BOARD THAT IT SEEMED THAT THE MASS WAS MORE CONCERNED THAN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE DID HAVE AN EXTENSIVE

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IT SEEMED LIKE THAT THE PROPORTIONS WERE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TRANSOM WINDOWS WHICH WERE A BIG CONCERN WE HAVE REMOVED THOSE TRANSOM WINDOWS AND TRIED GET A FEW OTHERS MORE IN ALIGNMENT. THE USE OF BORAL WAS DISCUSSED QUITE A BIT.

WE LEFT THAT ALONE. IT SEEMED LIKE WAS NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY REFER TO A WHAT I THINK WOULD BE A MORE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENT BUT A BETTER MORE ACCEPTABLE CASE IF WE HAD TO ON THE DOORS I KNOW WE DID NOTE THAT THESE WOULD BE WOULD CLAD DOORS ALL THE ELEVATIONS WE DIDN'T MISS IN THE SCHEDULE AND STILL SAYS I THINK TO BE DETERMINED BUT THE INTENT WHAT CLAD ON THOSE DOORS AND I'M HAPPY TO AGREE TO HAVE THAT AS PART OF ANY CONSIDERATION HERE THAT IS THE OWNER'S INTENT THE TRANSOM IS WHERE EVERYTHING BELIEVE TAKEN CARE OF THE TWO DIFFERENT MATERIALS ON ONE SURFACE I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT DISCUSSION IN THAT MEETING ABOUT WHETHER THAT MIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE WE'VE GONE AHEAD AND REMOVED IT JUST BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE A CONCERN AND I THINK ITEM TEN OF OUT OF A FREE REMOVAL WAS OBVIOUSLY MORE OF A PAPERWORK THING SO IT'S REALLY NINE THAT I THOUGHT WE HAD BEEN ASKED BY THE BOARD FOCUS ON THE MASSING AND TO TRY TO BRING SOME OF THE HEIGHT DOWN ON THE BUILDING TO THAT DEGREE WE'VE PROVIDED SOME SUPPLEMENTAL COLOR DOCUMENTS BUT MAYBE MORE IMPORTANTLY WE DIDN'T TALK TO THE CHAIRMAN OF HARBOR WE REQUESTED SOME DRAWINGS OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET TO TRY TO CREATE SOME CONTEXT AROUND THE CHAIRMAN THE REVIEW AUDITORY ROADS SO IT TURNS OUT HIS HOME IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM IT.

HE HAS ONE OF THE LARGER LOTS LIKE THIS ONE I'M SORRY SO HE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AND DETACHED GARAGE SIMILAR SIZE STRUCTURE LENGTH WIDTH ARCHITECTURALLY AND THEN ONE FURTHER THERE WITH THE STREET SECTION HEIGHT WISE. I MEAN WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF RIGHT IN LINE WITH NOT ONLY THAT STRUCTURE BUT WITH A COUPLE OTHERS IT IF WE DID BRING THE SCALE DOWN FORM WE BROUGHT THE CONNECTOR HYPHEN DOWN AND WE TALKED ABOUT DROPPING DOWN INSERTION WHILE HEIGHTS WE AGREED WITH THE WITH THE TOWN AND TRIED TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. I THOUGHT IN THAT MEETING IT FELT LIKE WE WERE FOCUSING ON MASS NOT ON FOOTPRINT AS WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION TO IT TWO MONTHS AGO BUT KIND OF LEAVE IT AT THAT THAT WE HAVE ADDED AS A RESULT OF THAT MEETING WHETHER I MISUNDERSTOOD OR NOT WE WERE FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON MY HOUSE WHICH SEEMED TO BE A COUPLE OF BOARD MEMBERS PRIMARY CONCERN YES IF YOU THINKING LOOK IN LOOKING AT MY NOTES I LARGELY AGREE WITH MR. COURT'S RECOLLECTION THAT IT WAS MASS AND SCALE THAT THE MAIN ISSUE THAT WAS A PRIMARY CONCERN THERE WAS NEVER A FORMAL DETERMINATION MADE AS TO SQUARE FOOTAGE BUT IT DID THAT WAS THE DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO MR. GORDON.

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OTHER THAN THAT, WE REALLY JUST A COUPLE OF THE BEARINGS AND DRIVES TRIED TO BRING DOWN THE PITCH OF THE ROOMS JUST TRY TO BRING THINK ABOUT HOW IT WOULD BE PERCEIVED VISUALLY FROM THE STREET SO THAT AS PERSPECTIVE TAKES PLACE WE'RE BRINGING SOME OF THAT ROOFLIGHT DOWN.

THAT WAS OUR PRIMARY CONVERSATION WITH TOWN WITH KATIE AND WHEN WE MET WITH HER AFTER THE MEETING THAT AND AGAIN I THINK A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HEAT OF SOME OF THE SERVICE YARD WALLS AND THINGS SO THAT'S WHERE WE FOCUSED OUR TIME IT WAS CERTAINLY NOT TO DISREGARD OTHERS I AM TRYING TO TO CERTAINLY LOBBY ON BEHALF OF OUR PROPERTY OWNER HERE WHO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THEIR DESIRE THEIR WISH BUT BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE IF YOU DISREGARDED SOMETHING IT WAS WITH AND WITH MY THOUGHT AS IS THAT WE TO BE FOCUSING ON SCALE AND SO I THINK IT WAS DONE THANK YOU I MEAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TO ME WELL HOW WERE YOU ALL FEELING ON THIS AND IF WE DO I'M I'M JUST GOING TO SKIP NUMBER ONE BUT I DO REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT PRODUCT THE WORLD I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT AND I BELIEVE WE CONSIDERED UTILIZING THAT JUST BECAUSE AS A NEW TECHNOLOGY IT'S A NEW PRODUCT AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S QUITE A GOOD SUSTAINABLE TYPE PRODUCT ANYWAY I JUST REMEMBER DISCUSSING THAT THE WE WERE GOING TO DO BUT THAT WAS AN IDEA FOR ME SO I GUESS ALL THE OTHER THINGS HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT BUT THE FEELING IS IN REGARDS TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE MASSING OR ANY DISCUSSION OR COMFORT I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB BRINGING THE MASSING DOWN AND I'M FINE WITH EVERYTHING AS IT IS QUITE HONESTLY AND YEAH I MEAN I THE HOUSE ITSELF LOOKS REALLY GOOD ON ALL FOUR SIDES AND I THINK I MEAN SECTION THAT THEY SHOWED WITH THE I GUESS NEIGHBOR THE STREET REALLY SHOWS HOW THAT FITS IN AND I THINK I MEAN IT MAKES SENSE THIS IS ALSO A AN IMPORTANT TO NOTE IT'S A IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S KIND OF A DOUBLE LOT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT'S BIGGER ALTHOUGH I COULD BE MISTAKEN MAYBE SOME OF THE BREWING ROAD ONES I THINK I MEAN FOR ME I'M I'M STILL HUNG UP A LITTLE BIT ON ONE I'M FINE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE I CAN'T LOOK AT AN ELEVATION AS FAR AS WINDOWS I THINK THAT IT DID A REALLY GOOD JOB BREAK IN MAKING FACADE LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT NOT NOT TO I MEAN SO FOR THE I GUESS THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE TAKING IS THIS LOT WOULD BE ALLOWED A CERTAIN SQUARE OF CARRIAGE HOUSE AND A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE OF YOUR MAIN BUILDING. YEAH I THINK THE REALLY BIG DIFFERENCE IS KIND OF WHERE WE DRAW THOSE LINES RIGHT. YOU REMEMBER KATIE PLEASE AGAIN I THINK THAT WAS THE YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING ON FIRST FLOOR AND I GET IT BUT LIKE IF IT'S JUST IT'S NOT VERY CLEAR IN A VIDEO IN MY OPINION AND WE KIND OF WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE POSITION OUR POSITION IS ON GOING OUT AND THE APPLICANT THAT THE GARAGE STARTS WHEN YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE AND THEN FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE OVERALL MASSING AND SCALE OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT WE'RE USING THAT AT THE END OF THE HYPHEN TO BASICALLY ACCOMPLISH WHERE WE SET THE TONE FOR THE SECOND FLOOR I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S IT CREATES A JOG EFFECT BUT IT IS REALLY NO DIFFERENT THAN THE GIANT EFFECT THAT THAT SHOWN WITH THE RED LINE THERE IS SOME ARBITRARY NATURE THE REALITY I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THE CHAIRMAN LAST TIME YOU COULD HAVE CONCEIVABLY STOP AT PINK AND BUILD THAT HOUSE AND IT WOULD MEET EVERY CRITERIA AND THEN YOU COULD COME BACK IN AND BUILD THAT CONNECTOR AND THE GARAGE WING AND ULTIMATELY MAKE A CASE TO IN THE SECOND FLOOR AND STILL BE WITHIN THE ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE. SO I REALLY I TO PUSH BACK ON ONE AND SAY THAT IN OUR OPINION WE'RE NOT OVER SQUARE FOOTAGE. IT'S JUST IT'S WE'RE WE'RE NOT SAYING I INTERPRETATION WISE WITH WITH THE TOWN BUT I DO THINK WHERE WE HAVE ON AT THE WAS THAT HAD YOU PHRASED IT WE

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THANK YOU. AND I THINK ME THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ISSUE IS NOT REALLY AN ISSUE AS MUCH AS THE SCALE OF THE CONNECTOR ITSELF. I GET THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE COULD HAVE BEEN GOT TO GOTTEN TO OVER TIME WITH A PHASED APPROACH BUT THE THE NATURE OF THE CONNECTOR BEING BASICALLY A FULL TWO STORY CONNECTOR MAKES THIS FEEL LIKE IT'S ONE LARGER HOUSE AND I DON'T MEAN THAT TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT ARTICULATED WELL IT'S A IT'S A GREAT DESIGN AND IT SPEAKS TO THE TO THE WAY THAT ARCHITECTURE WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE OVER SORT OF FILLED IN GENERATIONALLY I JUST FEEL THAT THE SCALE OF CONNECTOR ITSELF IS TOO GREAT IN ADDING TO THE FACT THAT THE MAIN HOUSE IS A TWO STORY PLUS OF FOR THE DORMERS READ ESPECIALLY FROM THE FRONT AND FROM THE CORNERS LIKE PERSPECTIVES FEEL LIKE ESSENTIALLY A THREE STOREY HOUSE TO HAVE A TWO STORY CONNECTOR INTO THE CARRIAGE HOUSE FEELS REALLY LARGE FOR THIS AREA ME SO JAGGED SUBJECTIVELY I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE WE'RE GETTING AT IS IS THIS THE SCALE AS AS WE WERE REMINDED ON THE LAST MEETING IS JUST STRICTLY A SUBJECTIVE READING AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS THE PLAY PART OF THE SECOND FLOOR RIGHT NINE FOOT CEILINGS SO EXACTLY AN EIGHT YOU COULD DROP A FABRIC DOWN OVER THE WHOLE THING AND THAT WOULD REDESIGN. SO I THINK THAT QUESTION THEN GETS TO I THINK WE'VE ALREADY DROPPED THE PLATE HEIGHT IN THE CONNECTOR YOU ALMOST WANT SOME DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN IT TO MAKE IT FEEL LIKE A KIND OF CONNECTOR.

SO I ACTUALLY WE'VE RUN THE RISK EVERYTHING MAKING EVERYTHING WE'RE EIGHT FOOT ON THE CONNECTOR IN NINE FOOT ON THE SECOND FLOOR I BELIEVE SO NOT AND HONESTLY WHEN WE COMPARED IT TO THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET OUR PLATE HEIGHTS ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL LIKE THEY'RE AND SO I APPRECIATE I DON'T LIKE TO LOOK AT THE MESS WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS THE FACT THAT THIS IS A BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A LARGE LOT WE'VE PULLED THAT TWO STORY CONNECTOR AWAY FROM THE STREET AND PULLED IT BACK TOWARDS THE ALLEY. SO THE REALITY IS WHEN YOU SEE IT FROM THE PUBLIC SIDES YOU'RE SEEING THE OPPOSITE. THE MAIN HOUSE IS REALLY ONLY ABOUT FIRST YOU KNOW, ALMOST TO MAYBE NOT QUITE A HALF RIGHT INSIDE AND THEN THERE IS DEEP SORT OF COURTYARD WITH A SEPARATE WALL AND LANDSCAPING TO SOFTEN THAT CONNECTOR BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY REALLY EVER SEEING IT FROM UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE ALLEY FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE AND YOU COULD YOU PULL UP I BELIEVE YOU HAD A SLIDE WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE I MEAN FOR ME TO SAY THAT IS THE I MEAN THAT MUD BAR LANE IS THE ALLEY THAT JUST SERVES THOSE HOMES. I DON'T THAT BIG OF A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW MAYBE IF THE IT WAS FLIPPED ON BARNACLE LANE BUT THAT'S REALLY I MEAN IT'S ALL PEOPLE'S GARAGES BACK THERE BARNACLE IS A GOOD GARAGE. NO, I'M SORRY. THE MUD OF OUR LANE IS THE ALLEY THAT IS THE GARAGE I MEAN THE MUD BAR THAT'S THE ALLEY. SO THEY'RE ALL REAR LOADED.

OKAY, A LOT OF TOPS THIS WOULD BE YOUR TWO PUBLIC STREETS HERE BARNACLE AND MUD.

NO, SORRY. WHATEVER WE. CALL THAT SHELTER YET A MUD BAR IS THAT BACK AND THAT IS STRICTLY USED FOR FOUR OF THESE FIVE BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE AND THIS ACTUALLY TO YOUR RIGHT IS YOUR OFFICE IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

CORRECT. SO THIS IS THIS IS ALL LANDSCAPING POOL HERE AND FENCING AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO ARE STORY HYPHENATED IN BETWEEN HERE IS ACTUALLY BACK TO THE TO THE TO THE BAR AS FAR BACK AS WE CAN GET IT YOU KNOW PHYSICALLY TO ACCOMPANY YOU IS HOW YOU VIEW CORRECT BARNACLE AND SHELL ARE IN A SENSE IT'S OUR VIEW SOMEBODY TO DRIVING DOWN THEY'RE GOING TO PROBABLY GO DOWN WONDERFUL AROUND HERE THIS IS YOUR PUBLIC CORNER SO

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DO YOU HAVE A TITLE? I ROLL THAT. SO WHICH ONE DID YOU WANT RIGHT THAT THE WATER. OH YEAH THAT'S WHAT THIS IS YEAH THAT THAT THERE LIKE THAT.

YEAH THAT'S FASTEST SO YEAH SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE MAIN BODY OF PORCH HERE AND THEN A LOW ONE STORY FORWARD FOR THE FIREPLACE AND THEN ALL COURTYARD FENCING YOU'RE THE TWO STORY COMPONENT COMPONENTS IN THE BACKGROUND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IN POINT OF THAT? YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION AND WHO DESIRES TO MAKE MOTION CONSIDERING I THINK THE FACT THAT MEMORIAL IN MY OPINION IS ALL RIGHT AND THE OTHER ITEMS THAT I'M STILL STUCK ON ON ONE WITH THE FOOTPRINT EXCEED BUT YES I MAY TRY TO MAKE A MOTION BASED ON THE ONE I'VE HEARD YES OR MOTION THAT WOULD SEPTEMBER .

I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT RICHARD. SO LINK FOR MY MOTION THE MOTION THAT I'M PROPOSING IS GOING BASED OFF OF MR. GOODWIN'S RESPONSES AND MR. SMELTZER COMMISSIONER YOUR RESPONSES AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE NOT BEING OF A PRIMARY CONCERN AND THE I BELIEVE I'M CORRECT COMMISSIONER FRAZIER AND SOME OF THAT CONCERNS ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ORIGINAL MEETING.

BUT AS FAR AS MASSING AND SCALE COMMISSIONER DID NOT HAVE THE OBJECTIONS OF COMMISSIONER GOODMAN AND SO I'M GOING TO DO IS PUT TOGETHER A MOTION THAT IS IN FAVOR WITH THE BALL AND SINCE TO THIS SO THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THE FIRST CONDITION TO ALLOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO BE APPROVED SUBMITTED TO DO NOT REQUIRE THE STRUCTURE BE REPOSITIONED TO PARALLEL TO THE FRONT OF THE LOT FOR SECTION 55 OF THE OTHER FOR TO ALLOW THE USE OF ORAL AS A SUBSTITUTE MATERIAL FOR THOSE LISTED FOR COLUMNS IN SECTION 515 SIX H OF THE PER 515 TO 15 F OF THE IDEA FOR DETERMINATION OF THE WINDOWS IN THE PAINTING'S VARIATION IS PROPORTIONAL BASED OFF OF THE CHANGES OF THE PLANS FIVE TO ALLOW THE USE OF WAS A SUBSTITUTE MATERIAL FOR THOSE LISTED ABOVE 56 AGENTS OF THE WIDTH OF THE RAILINGS NOW ILLUSTRATES FOR ABOUT 15 SIX OF THE DOOR TABLE TO BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE THE TYPE OF FINISH OF THE PROPOSED EXTERIOR DOORS SHOULD BE REVIEWED LEVEL AND KNOW THAT THE MASSIVE ARE APPROPRIATE TEN FOR THE APPLICATION MANUAL A HALLIBURTON TREE REMOVAL PERMIT BE REQUIRED ANYONE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THE POSSIBILITY IN THE MOTION THAT BEING THE CASE WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION AND MOTION THAT WHAT HE JUST SAID YES YOU CAN MOVE THINGS OUT OKAY I'M JUST SAYING SO MOVE SOME MOTIONS THAT WE NEED A SECOND THAN I NEED SECOND OR SECOND ON. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. YEAH I WOULD JUST ASK THAT I GUESS IT IS MASSIVE ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED POTENTIALLY MOVING THE CONNECTOR DOWN AN INTERESTING DORMERS KEEPING IT OF THE NEW TO TRY AND KEEP THAT CONNECTOR DOWN. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE GOT HALLWAYS ON THE OUTSIDE AND THERE WOULD BE ISSUES WITH IT IT JUST AS CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMISSIONER IS GOING TO MR. EVERYONE WOULD YOU PREFER THAT THE MASS AND SCALE BE SUBMITTED REVIEWED BY AGE B OR C AND AT THE STAFF LEVEL AND SAY GOING TO APPROVE IT? BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF AND EACH PROCES ARE ON THE MASS AND SCALE.

YES. AND THAT HAS BEEN ARE WE CAN WE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YES. GREAT. THANK YOU EVERYONE.

CLEARING AMENDMENT IN A ROOM FOR A MOTION TO IF WE CAN PLEASE JUST DO A MOTION TO AMEND THE FRONT. THANK YOU TO SO THEREFORE I HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND AS STATED YES I'LL SECOND OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR I I END YOUR POST. OKAY SO THE MOTION HAS AMENDED

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SO NO I'M LOOKING FOR AN APPROVAL OF THE NEW MOTION AS AMENDED LOOKING WE JUST NEED TO VOTE RIGHT I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A NEW MOTION OR WE JUST NOW VOTE ON IT JUST SO I DON'T HAVE TO. OKAY. SO NOW I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A VOTE FOR THE MOTION AS AMENDED . MR. GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ROBUST RULES LESSONS ONCE AGAIN. SO NOW I'M LOOKING A VOTE OUT OF THIS ONLY PAPER I ENFORCE. LOOKS LIKE IT WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY WITH THAT MOTION AND THANK YOU AGAIN RICHARDSON FOR ASSISTING WITH THAT EXAMINER GARY COULD REALLY YEAH

[VIII.2. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by James Atkins on behalf of the owner, Ryan Williamson, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness- HD to allow the construction of a new accessory structure of approximately 80 SF to be located at 1301 May River, in the Promenade Development, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood Core-HD. (COFA-04-22-016686) (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION SO THE REVISED ELEVATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED YOU IT DOES ENCLOSE THE STRUCTURE ON ALL FOUR SIDES AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT STAFF STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE HPC APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH POLITICIANS ONE IS THAT WE RECEIVE THAT RB LETTER WE DID RECEIVE IT HOWEVER PLEASE INCLUDE MOTION IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A FAVORABLE MOTION ON THIS. THE SECOND IS THAT THE INFORMATION ON THE PROPOSED DOORMATS PROVIDED BECAUSE IT JUST WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE INFORMATION AS WELL AS THE INFORMATION ON THE STOP IT MUST BE PROVIDED TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE STANDARDS AND YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING PLEASE I CAN HERE IS THE HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THEY ARE MULTIPLE AND YOU CAN SEE BEHIND THE WALL HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT METAL COOLER STRUCTURE HERE IS THE WEST ELEVATION WHICH INCLUDES IT HERE TO NOW WE'RE SHOWING IT COMPLETELY ENCLOSED. YES. WITH THE ROOF AND THIS IS THE WALL SECTION THAT SHOWS THAT THIS IS JUST FOR THAT SOFT BEDDING MATERIAL NEEDS TO BE SHOWN AS LONG AS IT IS PRESSURE TREATED OR IT IS HARDY IT IS AN ACCEPTABLE MATERIAL.

IT JUST NEEDS TO BE INDICATED ON THERE TO ENSURE IT'S NOT PLYWOOD OR ROCK SOLID IN THE PROPER GUTTER AND THE GUTTER IS A ROUND. IT IS SHOWN RIGHT HERE.

OKAY OOPS AND MY ZOOM TOOL GOING GUYS. THERE YOU GO.

SO THOSE ARE NOT GROUND AND I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK. I'M HAVING THE PROJECT AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS.

WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK WHEN YOU'RE SAYING INCLUDE THE RB LETTER JUST FROM OR WHEN YOU'RE SAYING INCLUDED IN THE MOTION LIKE JUST INCLUDE THAT COMMENTS PER PERSON THAT RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE JUST SO THAT I CAN HAVE THE PAPERWORK IN THE RIGHT ORDER SINCE IT WAS NOT SUBMITTED WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WAS REVIEWED AND SUBMITTED WE JUST HAVE TO SEE SO THAT IT IS BEING SUBMITTED IT IS JUST INCLUDED IN THIS PACKAGE IN ADMINISTRATIVE CHECK BOX 16. YEAH YEAH. SO IT'S DONE BUT WE JUST HAVE TO SAY IN SO MANY GREAT THINGS SO ANY DISCUSSION DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO STEP FORWARD

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THEY PROVIDED AN APPROVAL WITHOUT ANY COMMENTS THE IS PRESSURE TREATED OR PARTY AND THERE THERE'S NO DOOR ON THE GARDEN STRUCTURE CAN YOU GIVE IT TO THE SECOND TIME THE SECOND TIME OKAY BUT YOU DO BREAK ANYTHING SO I TOOK PICTURES OF ALL THE RECENT GARDEN STRUCTURES AROUND AS WELL AS THE EXISTING ONE IS THERE THERE'S THERE'S NO YOU CAN'T SAY IN ANY WAY THAT WE WENT THROUGH THAT WHOLE THING YOU CAN'T SEE ANY OF THIS BUILDING BUT THE DOORS TO THE INSIDE SO IT'S JUST AN OPENING TO GET TO THE EQUIPMENT DOOR THAT MAKES SENSE. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE I CAN SHOW YOU YOUR WORK SO IT'S JUST IT'S FRAMED OUT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THERE'S THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ANY FURTHER AND IF NOT I'M LOOKING FOR MOTION WE'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE HAVE THE MOTION ITEMS LISTED IT'S JUST BASICALLY THE PERCENT MOTION TO BE MADE BY THE SAME STAFF REPORT TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS AS STATED IN STAFF REPORT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OR WITH CONDITIONS AS STATED IN THIS REPORT I'M LOOKING FOR A SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IF NOT ALL OF IT RIGHT.

I OPPOSED IT LOOKS LIKE YOU KNOW. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, KATIE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ON THE THIRD ITEM I BELIEVE NOW THIS IS NEW BUSINESS. THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALL NOW WE'RE INTO THE NEW BUSINESS THE NEXT DAY WE HAVE BEFORE US IS OUR NEW BUSINESS FIRST ITEM THIS IS A REQUEST

[IX.1. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Dylan and Amanda Mingard for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness - HD to allow the construction of a new 2-story single-family residential structure of approximately 3,310 SF located at 41 Stock Farm Road in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood Conservation-HD. (COFA-06-22-016820) (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

YOU'RE HERE. OKAY. I WAS CHECKING.

THANK YOU. THIS IS THE CERTIFICATE OF REFERENCES TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STOREY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE APPROXIMATELY 3300 SQUARE FEET LOCATED AT 41 STOCKPORT ROAD WHICH IS IN THE BLOCK HISTORIC DISTRICT AND ZONE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD OF CONSERVATION H THIS SITE IS IN STOCKPORT AND I PUT THAT IN QUOTES BECAUSE IT IS NOT WITHIN THE STOCK FARM DEVELOPMENT PLAN SO IT DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME PROVENANCE AND RESTRICTIONS THAT THE REST OF STOCKTON DOES.

IT IS BEHIND THE STOCKPORT DEVELOPMENT LAND AREA AREA THAT MR. MCCRACKEN OWNED AND IT'S NOT INCLUSIVE INTO THE HRA, IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA. THIS IS A SITE PLAN SO YOU CAN SEE IT IF THERE IS ANY KIND RIVERS BEING A RIVER ON YOUR LEFT HAND SIDE HERE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT STOCKHOLM ROAD AT THE FRONT. THIS IS THE OCR IN LINE WITH THE SETBACK AND THE REDUCED SETBACK LINE JUST FOR CLARIFICATION OCR LINE I'M SORRY I'M GOING TO STOP USING INITIALS AND ONE DAY THAT'S WHAT I'M COVERING THE OCEAN THE OFFICE OF CRITICAL RESOURCE MANAGEMENT THANK YOU BOTH HERE AND THIS CASE THAT RESOURCE IS THE MAY RIVER I KNOW WE'RE ACRONYM DRIVEN BUT I HAD TO MOVE THE ACRONYM THE ACRONYM CLEAN OVER HERE SORRY GUYS SO THIS IS WHERE THAT SETBACK IS OR THAT BUFFER LINE ENDS RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THE UNIFIED BILLING ARGUMENT DOES HAVE A PROVISION THAT IF MORE THAN 40% OF BY THE 40% OF YOUR LOT IS TAKEN OUT OF IT CAN BE REDUCED BACK TO THAT AS LONG AS IT IS NO CLOSER THAN 25 FEET FROM THAT CRITICAL LINE WHEN THAT REDUCTION TAKES PLACE.

SO THAT'S WHERE IT GETS REDUCED TO HERE ARE YOUR FIRST FLOOR PLANS SO YOU'VE GOT THE FRONT COURT TWO FLOORS OF BACK AND FORTH. THERE'S A SMALL OUT TO THE BACK HERE WITH A STOOP. YOU'VE GOT A SECOND FLOOR PLAN AND THE ROOF PLAN HERE IS THE FRONT ELEVATION SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FRONT PORCH HERE AND THE REAR HERE THAT STOOP THAT I POINTED OUT RIGHT HERE, THE RIGHT ELEVATION, THE SIDE HERE AND THE LEFT ELEVATION IS THE SIDE BEING HOUSE IS NOT PERMITTED IN THIS APPLICATION AND IT WILL BE POTENTIALLY

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SO THIS IS A 3D RENDERING THAT THEY PROVIDED FROM THE FRONT AND REAR SO CAN SEE ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE STRUCTURE. HERE ARE SOME BUILDING SECTIONSE BEEN PROVIDED A LANDSCAPE PLAN.

I MADE IT REALLY BIG THE SCREEN SO YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THE AREA IS IN THAT OPEN BAR WHICH CANNOT BE TOUCHED AND THEN I'VE ZOOMED IN FOR YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER CLOSER AND PROVIDED THE LANDSCAPE PLAN DETAILS BECAUSE LIKES TO READ THEM VERY CLOSELY.

EVERYBODY LIKES TO BE A VERY CLOSELY BUT I JUST THINK I DON'T THINK HE KNOWS WHERE ALL THOSE TREES ARE BUT THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO THAT AND THEN THE CANOPY COVER EJACULATIONS HAVE BEEN PUT IN THE BOTTOM CORNER HERE AND I DO HAVE COMMENT ON THIS SO I DID MAKE SURE THAT IT IS LEGIBLE ON YOUR SCREEN AND. THEN THEY PROVIDED PICTURES OF THOSE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN'T READ THE CHART AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE NOW YOU'VE GOT A PICTURE BOOK AS WELL WHICH IS WONDERFUL THANK YOU CYBER DESIGN GROUP. THAT'S PRETTY COOL.

THERE ARE SOME MORE SECTIONS AND DETAILS I ZOOMED IN ON HERE BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL. I HAD YELLOW I JUST NOTICED THOUGH IN THE APPLICATION YOU HAVE A SHOWING THE PROPER GUTTER BUT I WANT TO SHOW DRAWING SO I DID INCLUDE THAT SECTION THE BUILDING MATERIALS HERE SO IT JUST NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED ON THE ACTUAL PLAN BUT. THEY DO HAVE IT LISTED AS BACKGROUND ON HERE SO I DIDN'T DO THAT. BRUCE GOOD. I GOT A DESIGN AND THEY ALSO NOTE THE DORMITORY OUT HERE IT'S JUST INDICATED ON THE DOOR SCHEDULE SO THE ISSUE YOU SEE AS YOU ARE PROBABLY VERY FAMILIAR HAS A REVIEW PAGE HERE THEY ARE FOUND IN SECTION 318 THREE OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND THEY ARE WHAT YOU USE AND YOU REVIEWS FOR THE APPROPRIATENESS YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT FOR THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT TOWN STAFF AND FOUND WITH THESE FOLLOWING ITEMS THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. THE FIRST IS THAT THE STRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE RELOCATED TO MEET THAT TEN FOOT MINIMUM SITE SETBACK IT IS JUST FAIRLY AND HOW FAR OFF ARE WE AND IT DOESN'T LIKE PROBABLY SIX INCHES BUT IT JUST NEEDS TO BE SHIFTED IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT POP UP HERE AND IT DOES HAVE ROOM ON THE SITE INCLUDES READJUSTED AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THEM UP TO THE MICROPHONE IF.

WE'RE GOING TO THANK YOU. YES, YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. I APPRECIATE IT.

I AM IN NO, NO, NO. JUST KEEP GOING. WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THEN WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY. I KIND OF GET IT AS THIS THE SECOND ITEM IS I GOT TO GO FILE IT IS SHOWN AS THAT KEY PROFILE ON THE PLANS IT IS LISTED ON THE APPLICATION AS THAT HAPPENED BUT THE APPLICATION UNFORTUNATELY DOESN'T MAKE IT INTO THE FIELD. SO WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING IT. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT DETAIL IS JUST UPDATED ON THEIR SITE OF THE THIRD ITEM IS THAT THE LANDSCAPE PLANNING CALCULATIONS FOR THE CANOPY COVERAGE ARE ARE OFF. SO THE WAY THAT A CANOPY CALCULATION HAS BEEN COVERED IS THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THIS TOTAL HEATED FOOTAGE FOR THE HOUSE AND NOT THE AREA UNDER THE ROOFTOP. SO IT'S COUNTING DOUBLE STORIES SO WHEN THEY DO THE MATH ON WHERE THAT CANOPY COVERAGE CALCULATION COMES FROM, IT INCLUDES ADDITIONAL SPACE. SO THIS IS HOWEVER THE STACK ON TOP OF EACH OTHER SO ON THE SITE THAT'S NOT THE ROOFTOPS. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO DO THAT.

THERE MAY BE AN ADDITIONAL TREE OR THAT NEED TO BE PLANTED IN ORDER TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.

BUT THERE IS ROOM ON THE SITE HERE WHERE THERE ARE CANOPY TREES AND I COULD SEE THAT BEING THAT COULD BE EASILY MET ONCE THEY UPDATE THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN SO THEY DO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT BACK SO THEY'RE LIKELY NOT OFF BY A TEN.

I THINK I DID THE MATH AND THEY MAYBE EVEN MADE IT LIKE IT IS BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BE QUOTED AS SAYING THAT. SO I TAKE YOU BACK LET'S A MATHEMATICAL YES.

SO I NEED THE CALCULATIONS TO BE UPDATED AND IF THERE IS CREATED ONE MORE THE NEXT ITEM TO SIMPLIFY THE LINES REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TIMES SPECIFICALLY TO THE FRONT ELEVATION AND CONSIDER MOVING THROUGH MODIFYING PORCH TO A SHED ROOF CONNECTING CENTRAL DORMER IN THE BACK. SO IT WAS KNOW COMBINATIONS OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I THINK THE BEST WAY TO SEE IT IS RIGHT HERE SO ON THE FRONT ELEVATION YOU HAVE A DOUBLE SIDED PIXIE DORMER YOU HAVE I'M SORRY ROOFLINE NEW DORMER THAT DORMERS ARE GABLES MOVING FORWARD THERE'S A HIP GROUP HERE AND THEN A SHAGGY ROOF ABOVE IT ON THIS DORMER ON THE

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SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT THERE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN LINE IF THIS PORCH IS TO BE CHANGED TO A SHED OR THE DORMER HERE AND THE REAR CHANGE TO HIPS SOMETHING LIKE THAT JUST REDUCE THE NUMBER OF OF REFINED STAIRS, MAKE IT A LESS BUSY SOME QUESTION. YEAH WITH FIVE DIFFERENT ROOF LINES GOING ON IN THE YOUDO ASKING FOR SIMPLIFIED ROOFLINES YES AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM KIND OF GOES IN LINE WITH THAT.

SO IN ORDER TO AGAIN SIMPLIFY IT THE LOCAL VERNACULAR TO BE MORE CONSISTENT EITHER CHANGE THE GABLED END ON THE FRONT TO NOT HAVE THE BRACKETING APPLY THE BRACKETING TO ALL ELEVATIONS WHICH IN EFFECT SO YOU CAN HERE THESE GABLES HAVE THIS BRACKETED DETAIL THAT'S UP IN THE ROOFLINE BUT IT'S NOT CARRIED THROUGH TO THE OTHER GABLE ENDS WHICH WOULD IN THEORY HAVE THE SAME THING SO IT'S CONSISTENT. SO IN OTHER WORDS ON GABLES IF THEY SHOW IT SIMILAR THE SHUTTERS YEAH THE EXACT SAME THING SOMEWHAT THE SAME CONCEPT IN THE SAME CONCEPT CARRY THE THEORY THE SAME CHARACTER AROUND THESE IDEAS AND AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR ALL TREES THAT ARE BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE SITE WHICH EXCEED THE 14 INCHES IN DIAMETER ACROSS HEIGHT AND THERE ARE A COUPLE IN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING THAT DO REQUIRE IT AND THEN I HAVE ON HERE AS WELL IN GRAY BECAUSE I DID NOT INCLUDE IT IN THE STAFF REPORT BUT I NOTICE THAT THOSE ELEVATIONS DIDN'T SHOW THE DOOR MATERIAL TYPE AND IT IS EASY ENOUGH TO UPDATE.

IT'S JUST NOT LISTED IN THEIR DOOR TABLE WHICH I WAS WHICH IS INCLUDE IN YOUR POCKET I DON'T THINK I'D PUT IT AT OUR TABLE HERE IN THE SLIDE DECK BUT IT IS LISTED ON THE APPLICATION OUT OF THE FIELD WITH IT BUT I HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT COULD BE SPECIFIED ON THE BUILDING PERMIT AS WELL AND STILL MEET THE REQUIREMENT. SO THAT'S I HAVE SO LET'S MOVE THE COMMISSIONERS SO I'M SORRY I SAID I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY IDEAS OR SUGGESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE VARIOUS ASSEMBLY LINES ANYONE AN ISSUE I KNOW THAT WHERE THEY ARE BUT I MEAN IF YEAH I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE ROOFS THE THE REASON THEY DID THAT IS AND THERE'S REALLY JUST KIND OF CLARIFY THERE'S ONLY THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROOFS ON THE FRONT THERE'S A GABLE, A SHED AND A HIP THE REASON THEY DID IT WAS THAT IF IT HAD BEEN A SHOULDER IT WOULD OVERHANG ON THE SIDE AND THEN YOU GET KIND ONE VOTE SORT OF HANGING OUT IN THE MIDDLE NOWHERE OVERHANG ON THE SIDES SO THE HIP IS A TIE INTO THE BUILDING ITSELF AND ALSO LOOKS LIKE A WRAPAROUND TO THEM.

YEAH SOMETIMES THE GABLE DETAILING IS A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEY ARE SHOWING IT IN THE FRONT GABLES DOESN'T NECESSARILY DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT TYPICALLY THEY WOULD DO IT ON ALL GABLES IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT CONDITION BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE THEY HAD THE WINDOWS BELOW ON THE FRONT GABLES YEAH IF YOU SEE THAT TOP LEFT THE FRONT GABLE THEY HAVE THE WINDOWS WITHIN THE BOARDMAN SIDING AND THEN THEY HAVE A SORT OF A BAND AND THEN THE SHAKE OR THE SHAPE LOOK LIKE UP ABOVE THAT AND SO THEY EMPHASIZE OR ADD AN ACCENT OF THE THE GABLE DETAILING WHICH IS THE BRACKETS AND THAT IN JUST THOSE TWO WHEREAS ON THE SIDES YOU CAN SEE THERE'S IT'S A IT'S A DIFFERENT CONDITION BECAUSE THE BAND IS

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YES. OKAY WITH THE APPLICANT ONE TO STEP FORWARD WE CAN DEFERRED MR. ADKINS HERE AND AGAIN WHEN YOU WHEN YOU COME TO THE WHEN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE.

THE COURT ACTUALLY HAS A DISCLAIMER NOT DESIGN THIS HOUSE.

I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROJECT OTHER THAN I'M FRIENDS WITH AND THEY'RE TRAVELING IN EUROPE RIGHT NOW AND I HAPPEN TO MENTION TO HIM I WAS GOING TO BE HERE FOR ANOTHER PROJECT AND HE NEEDED ME TO TALK ARCHITECTURAL LEASE WITH ANYBODY I'D BE HAPPY TO FILL IN SO WITH THAT DISCLAIMER I THINK PRETTY MUCH DESCRIBED THE COMMENTS THERE WHY IS THE FRONT PORCH ROOF IS A HIT RATHER THAN A SHED AND IT'S A IT'S REALLY GOOD THAT ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE SOMEBODY STUFF IN IT WAS THE APPLICANT I JUST I'M JUST THINKING THIS ONE I GOT AN EMAIL FROM THEM SAYING THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU NEED ME I WAS JUST I WAS JUST ASKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NO IS CERTAINLY I THINK WE'VE ALLOWED THAT SORT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THE PAST THINKING JUST SHOW AND AND THE MAIN MAYBE THE CABLES AND PUT THE MAIN BODY OF THE HOUSE WHICH IS APPROVED REFORM AND THEN SHED GARMENT SHED REPORT THAT'S WHY THE REPORT IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY. IT'S A SHAME BECAUSE IT'S NOT DIAGRAMS MADE BY THE HOUSE AND EVEN DESCRIBE BRACKET SITUATION SO AND THEN FROM THERE EVERYTHING ELSE HE DID PROVIDED I KNOW THE DRAWING SHOWS KIND OF A CASE SHAPE BUT HE SENT ME A SPEC SHEET OF THESE BACKGROUND DETAILS THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL BE USING FOR THE GUTTER AND HE SAID MAYBE THE CLIENTS WILL CLOSE WINDOWS IN THE AND DO IT DEFINITELY TURN DOWN THE DOOR IT CERTAINLY WOULD MOVE THE STRUCTURE SIX INCHES TO THE LEFT AND TO MAKE IT FIT I CAN SEE CONFIDENTLY SAY I CAN ASK HIM TO DO THAT AND WE'LL RUN THE NOTE. SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE REALLY CLOSE IF NOT RIGHT AT SO WE'LL JUST DOUBLE CHECK THE CALCULATION AND ONE OF MY MOST FAMOUS QUESTIONS IS THE SERVICE YARD LOOKS REALLY SMALL FOR YOU AND SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST ALLOWING FOR TWO AIR CONDITIONERS AND NOT HAVING EXTERIOR STORAGE FOR THIS BUILDING OR HAVING A GARDEN OR A GARAGE HAVE A CONCERN AND ALSO HPC BUT ALL ELECTRICAL PANELS AND WATER HEATERS AND ALL THAT OTHER MESS I'M IF YOU COULD SHOW WHERE THAT SERVICE YARD SQUARE FOOTAGE PUT IT IT'S VERY SMALL THAT I COULD SEE THAT THEY HAVE TWO UNITS THERE AND IT APPEARS THE BERLIN WALL IS HIGHER. DUNNO IT'S THERE'S A BETTER SHOT OF THAT SERVICE AREA I NO NO I DIDN'T THERE IT IS SO IT'S IT SCREENS THE UNITS I KNOW BUT IT'S JUST I'M LOOKING FOR A TOP ARE SO I NEED ONE UNIT DOWN ONE UNIT UP I REALIZE THAT BUT THEN WHERE'S THE ELECTRICAL PANEL AND THE OTHER STUFF GOING IN. I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT I'M KIND OF SURPRISED NO OUTSIDE STORAGE OR SOMETHING ESPECIALLY IF YOU GOT GARDEN EQUIPMENT AND YOU KNOW GET THROWN INTO THERE. SO IT'S JUST COMMENT I THINK WE COULD JUST ADD THAT AS A AN ADDITION TO THE JUST EXPAND EXPANDING THE SECURITY SCREENING FOR THE THE METER INTELLECTUAL THIS IS ONE OF MY PET PEEVES OKAY UH ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AND IF NOT I BELIEVE

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ALL RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NEW MOTION TO APPROVE WITH SECRETARY THAT RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS FOR AND FIVE AND WITH THE ADDITION OF OF THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SCREENING THE ELECTRICAL METER AND ACCOMPANYING EQUIPMENT AS REQUIRED. THANK YOU AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR I I OPPOSED SO PAST THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT SO NOW WE'RE ON TO ACTUALLY THE RULING GUESS FOR YOU SLIDES AND THIS IS WHAT'S AMAZING TO ME IS YOU ADOPT BASIS FOR 2023 I BELIEVE WE ALL HAVE THAT IN OUR PACKET AND WRITTEN HERE SO YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN A COPY YOU KNOW LOOKS LIKE IT'S FOLLOWING PRETTY MUCH THE FIRST WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY GOING TO EXACTLY START PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING EVERY MONDAY AT 4 P.M. AS LONG AS THERE ARE AGENDA ITEMS. SO THAT'S OUR FIRST ONE. CORRECT. SO NEED A MOTION TO KNOW YOU

[IX.2. Adoption of 2023 Historic Preservation Commission Meeting Dates: (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

[IX.3. Adoption of 2023 Historic Preservation Review Committee Meeting Dates: (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

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