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OF THE, UH, TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLANDS PLANNING COMMISSION.
I WAS WAITING FOR THAT, THAT'S WHY A COUPLE MINUTES LATE.
UM, WE'LL START WITH THE CALL TO ORDER, AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, IF YOU WILL, BY PLEDGE OF FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LITERACY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
UM, MAY I ASK, KAREN, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT? YES, SIR, WE ARE.
UM, WE, UH, WE'LL START, WE'RE SWEARING IN, UH, TWO MEMBERS OF THE, UH, COMMISSION, UH, MR. JOHN CAMPBELL AND MR. MARCO O'NEILL.
AND THE, UH, SWEARING IN WILL BE BEAT BY, UH, MR. JOSH KRUER.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MR. O'NEILL.
MR. CAMPBELL, IF YOU COULD PLEASE JOIN ME DOWN HERE.
NOW Y'ALL SEE 'EM RIGHT THERE, AND WE'LL DO IT.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS AND REPEAT AFTER ME.
I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I AM DULY QUALIFIED AND I DULY QUALIFIED ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS STATELY CONSTITUTION IN THIS STATE, TO EXERCISE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE, EXERCISE THE DUTY OF THE OFFICE TO WHICH I HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO WHICH I'VE BEEN APPOINTED, AND THAT I WILL AND I WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES THEREOF, DISCHARGE, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND YOU RESERVE FACT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS STATE, CONSTITUTION, THE STATE, AND OF THE UNITED STATES.
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THIS, UH, KAREN, MAY I ASK YOU TO CALL THE ROLL? CERTAINLY.
MR. HANS, I THINK HE'S MENTIONED HE MIGHT BE A MINUTE OR TWO LATE.
UH, MR. ALFRED? HE'S NOT HERE.
AND MR. D ANZO SAID HE'D BE A FEW MINUTES LATE.
UM, WE'LL START WITH THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
UM, IT'S THE, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE AGENDA.
UNANIMOUS, UM, APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING OF AUGUST THE 17TH.
UM, HAVE YOU ALL HAD OF THOSE IN YOUR KIT, AND IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, AMENDMENT? I MEAN THE, UH, MINUTES AS READ? UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I MAKE A CORRECTION? SURE.
UH, THE, THE, UH, MINUTES, UH, REFERRED TO COMMISSIONER, HENCE AS MIKE, HENCE RATHER THAN TOM.
SO WITH THAT CHANGE, I WOULD MOVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
ALL RIGHT, STAFF, YOU'VE GOT THAT, I HOPE.
YES, IT GOES, MAY, MAY HAVE A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE, UH, THE MINUTES OF LAST MEETING IS UNANIMOUS AS WELL.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS APPEARANCE, UH, BY CITIZENS, UH, GAR.
DO WE HAVE ANY MR. SKIP HOLAND HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SIR.
I DON'T SEE HIM IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'S, UH, GONNA PLAN HIM TO SPEAK? UH, HE, HE, HE HAD TO PREREGISTER, RIGHT? AND FOR SPEAKING, SORRY TO SPEAK.
UH, WE HAVE NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS BEFORE US TODAY, SO WE'LL MOVE INTO, UH, NEW BUSINESS, IF YOU WILL.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS THE, UH, MID ISLAND DISTRICT AND TRACK PRESENTATION BY, UH, UH, SEAN COLLINS AND MISSY LUECK.
LUKE, I KNOW ON THE AGENDA IT SAID CONSULTANT MISSY, YOU'RE FIRED AND YOU'RE HIRED AS A CONSULTANT.
WE HAD A CONSULTANT HERE PRESENTED DURING A WORKSHOP OF COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER, UH, AND THEN THEY WERE HERE LAST WEEK FOR SOME NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AS WELL.
SO WE'RE GONNA HANDLE THE PRESENTATION OF PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE, UM, CONTEXT AND RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN TO THIS POINT.
RIGHT? AND THEN ON, UM, NOVEMBER 1ST, THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT PLAN, AND THE MID ISLAND TRACK MASTER PLAN WILL BE BACK BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL
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FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL.SO WE'LL SHARE, YOU SHARE WITH YOU THE DETAILS ON THE MID ISLAND TRACK.
SO WE'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE, AND I'LL LET YOU HEAR FROM MISSY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, TOO AS WE GO FORWARD.
SO THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT, UM, IS GROUNDED IN, UM, THE TENANTS AND PRINCIPLES FROM OUR PLAN.
UM, OUR PLAN REALLY LAYS A REALLY GREAT FOUNDATION FOR, UM, FUTURE PLANNING FOR THE ISLAND.
UM, AND ALSO THE GULLAH GEECHEE CULTURE.
UM, PRESERVATION PROJECT REPORT WAS ONE OF THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS THAT WAS LOOKED AT, UM, STRONGLY FOR SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
THERE WAS EXTENSIVE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
UM, THERE WAS A WELL-ATTENDED, UM, OPEN PARK DAY.
WE HAD A SURVEY WITH OVER A THOUSAND RESPONSES, AND THEN WE HAVE MET WITH, UH, OVER A HUNDRED STAKEHOLDERS.
AND, AND AS SEAN HAD MENTIONED, WE, WE HAD SOME STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS JUST LAST WEEK.
UM, AND IF I COULD JUMP IN FOR JUST ONE SECOND.
SO THIS IS AN ADDITION TO THE THOUSANDS OF HOURS AND WORK GROUP MEETINGS THAT HAPPENED WITH OUR PLAN AND THE HUNDREDS OF HOURS ON THE GULLAH GEECHEE, UM, CULTURE, UM, PRESERVATION REPORT.
SO THIS WAS JUST SPECIFIC TO MID ISLAND, UM, ON TOP OF ALL OF THE OTHER WORK.
SO, AGAIN, UM, THE NEXT TWO SLIDES, UM, REITERATE THE STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT LIST, SOME OF THE, THE GROUPS AND, AND REPRESENTATIVES THAT WE MET WITH.
I KNOW YOU PROBABLY CAN'T READ THIS SCREEN, BUT THIS ALSO IDENTIFIES, UM, STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH, UM, AND, AND THE BREADTH OF, OF THOSE THAT WE SOUGHT INPUT FROM HERE, WE HAVE SOME OF THE RESULTS FROM THE SURVEY.
UM, A PARK WAS THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WAS RESPONDED TO ON THE SURVEY, BUT ALSO, UM, ALL OF THESE COMPONENTS ARE INCORPORATED WITHIN, UM, THE DISTRICT PLAN, ROCKWELL STREETS, DINING COMMUNITY EVENTS, SHOPPING, WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UM, ALL OF THESE COMPONENTS ARE, UM, WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED DISTRICT PLAN.
THIS JUST ALSO OUTLINES SOME OF THE, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT RESPONSE.
AND THEY WERE SIMILAR, UM, RELATED TO THE PARK AND THE DISTRICT, UM, AND ARE INCORPORATED WITHIN THE PLAN.
THE THREE MAIN THEMES THAT RESULTED FROM THE WORK ARE PROTECT AND ENHANCE, CONNECT AND EVOLVE.
SO TO, UM, BOTH PROTECT PEOPLE, NEIGHBORHOODS CULTURE, OUR ENVIRONMENT, UM, CONNECT PEOPLE, CONNECT THE SPACES OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, CREATE COMMUNITY HUBS OR DISTRICT CENTERS.
AND THEN TO LOOK AT EVOLVING, UM, OVER TIME.
SO LOOK AT WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USES COULD BE, UM, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, RETAIL, INFILL, AND, AND HOW WE SEE THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, EXPANDING AND GROWING.
AND I'M GONNA JUMP IN, UH, ONE MORE, UM, FOR A FEW SECONDS HERE AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? IS, IS IMPORTANT.
ONE, THE TOWN OWNS 103 ACRE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THE, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN ON THAT PROPERTY, UM, HAS BEEN HAD THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY FOR A FEW YEARS.
UH, ONCE WE COMPLETED LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION PARK, IT WAS TIME TO KIND OF HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN EARNEST AND BUILD ON THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN OUR PLAN, AND TO COME UP WITH A PLAN AND PROGRAM FOR THAT.
THAT PARK IS AN ANCHOR FOR THIS MID ISLAND DISTRICT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF LARGE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT 30% OF THE ISLAND THAT HASN'T HAD THAT SAME LEVEL OF PLANNING AND SOPHISTICATION TO HELP INFORM OUR POLICIES AND OUR LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AND SUBDIVISION, RIGHT? ALL THAT, UM, SORT OF BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
AND SO IT'S BUILDING ON THE ANCHOR THAT WE HAVE THAT CAN BECOME THE PARK AND CENTER, UM, TO LEVERAGE THE OTHER INVESTMENT WITHIN THIS DISTRICT.
SO IT'S TO THE FIRST DISTRICT OF MANY TO DO AND STITCH TOGETHER THROUGH A GROWTH FRAMEWORK AND A TRUE ISLAND WIDE MASTER PLAN.
SO, WANNA MAKE SURE THIS, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION KNOWS THIS IS THE FIRST STEP, FIRST DISTRICT, PROBABLY THE MOST COMPLEX, UM, BUT ONE THAT MAY HAVE THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY HERE EARLY TO BUILD ON AND GO FORWARD FROM.
SO, UM, THIS SLIDE JUST IDENTIFIES SOME OF THE DIRECTION THAT THE DISTRICT PLAN IS LOOKING TO, UM, PROJECT.
UM, AND IT IS OF COURSE, TO EXPAND THE PARK, UM, CONNECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, LIKE WE SAID, CREATE THE MIXED USE CENTER OR MIXED USE DISTRICT, AS WELL AS LOOK AT FUTURE LAND USES, AND THEN ESTABLISH THAT FRAMEWORK FOR IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH IS WHAT WE'LL SEE IN THE DISTRICT PLAN ON NOVEMBER 1ST.
SO IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE, UM, LAND MASS, UM, THAT GOES DOWN TO THE MARSHLAND NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL THE WAY UP TO, UM, MITCHELLVILLE, UM, UP TO THE OCEAN.
UM, THE AIRPORT IS AT THE CENTER OF THE DISTRICT.
UM, THERE ARE FIVE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE DISTRICT, AND, AND THEY'RE LABELED HERE.
SO, UM, THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE DISTRICT AS WELL AS LABELS.
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SOME TOWN OWNED PROPERTY WITHIN THE, THE DISTRICT IN GREEN.THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND HISTORIC CHURCHES THAT ARE LABORED LABELED WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
AND HERE'S OUR EXISTING ZONING THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
UM, SO WE LOOKED AT BOTH THE, UM, LAYERS OF EXISTING ZONING AS WELL AS ALL OF THE EXISTING LAND USES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE BY THE MANY COLORS ON THE MAP.
WE HAVE A LOT OF EXISTING LAND USES.
AND WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, WITH THE CONSULTANT TEAM AND THROUGH THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, UM, ARE THESE THE BEST LAND USES? SHOULD WE LOOK TO, UM, CONDENSE SOME OF THESE LAND USES, UM, FOR A MORE PREDICTABLE FUTURE LAND USE? UM, AS THE ISLAND MATURES IN THIS AREA ON, ON THIS ILLUSTRATION, YOU KNOW, IF I, IF I WAS LOOKING AT IT FROM A MEDICAL PERSPECTIVE, AND THIS WAS SORT OF THE WHATEVER MRI, UH, UH, VALUATION OF MY, OF MY CONDITION, I'D BE LIKE, GOSH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WRONG, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF POCKETS OF COLOR THAT DON'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
AND SO IT'S TO CREATE SOME CONSISTENCY.
SO THE UNDERSTAND EXPECTATIONS IF YOU OWN PROPERTY OR YOU OWN PROPERTY NEXT TO ONE OF THESE DIFFERENT SHADED COLORS ON THE MAP.
AND, UM, AND SO YES, THIS DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A HEALTHY SYSTEM FROM A LAND USE AND ZONING STANDPOINT.
AND THE IDEA IS TO MAKE IT A HEALTHY SYSTEM.
SO, SO THIS IS WHERE WE GET TO THE EVOLVE PART WHERE WE, THE PLAN LOOKS AT, UM, CONDENSING THOSE LAND USES AND LOOKING AT, UM, A POSSIBLE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, MAINLY WHAT YOU SEE IN THE CENTER IS A NEW MIXED USE DISTRICT FOR DISTRICT CENTER AREA, UM, CONSOLIDATING SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREAS.
UM, A RETAIL SERVICE LODGING AREA, UM, THAT BORDERS DYLAN ROAD AND THE AIRPORT, UM, OF COURSE, KEEPING OUR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION CEMETERY USES GOVERNMENT FACILITIES, UM, CONSOLIDATING THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AIRPORT.
AND THEN, UM, PRESERVING THE PARK IN OPEN SPACES AND, AND THIS AND THIS FROM A FUTURE LAND USE MA, UM, AND, AND STRATEGY MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME, OKAY, AS A PLANNER.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE GREEN SHADED AREAS, THOSE ARE PARKS AND PROTECTED AREAS.
AND THEN THE, THE YELLOW ARE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT COULD HAVE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THAT'S CONSISTENT.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN AND THE YELLOW COMBINED, THAT TO ME LOOKS LIKE A NICE HEALTHY COMMUNITY.
AND THEN THE, THE CONCENTRATION OF MIXED USE DISTRICT CENTER IN THE PURPLE, THE AIRPORT IS THE AIRPORT WITH SOME SUPPORT IN THAT PAINT COLOR.
IT JUST SEEMS MORE, UM, COHESIVE.
AND IF YOU TOOK THE LAND AREA FROM THE GREEN AND THE YELLOW, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT MAJORITY OF PROPERTY IN THERE THAT'S, UM, PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO IT ALLOWS YOU TO DO SOME, UH, MORE INTENSE USE IN THE DISTRICT CENTER.
AND THOSE AREAS ARE AROUND THE AIRPORT.
A QUESTION, I'M JUST RUN ON THE AIRPORT, UH, AIRPORT EXPANSION WOULD'VE CHANGED THE, THE, UH, THE LINES HERE, UH, AROUND THE AIRPORT WITH THE EXPANSION.
UM, WELL, THE AIRPORT EXPANDED TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TERMINAL SITUATION, THE TERMINAL, THE TERMINAL'S ALREADY ENCOMPASSED IN THIS HOW THE, THE AIRPORT HAS A MASTER PLAN, AND THIS ACCOMMODATES FOR, FOR THAT.
NOW, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT ONE OR TWO OF THE PINK SHADED PARCELS WOULD BECOME PART OF THE AIRPORT PROPER OVER TIME.
BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DRIVING.
BUT CURRENT EXPANSION PLANS WOULD BE WITHIN THE BLUE AREA, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO, UM, THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES GO THROUGH, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF THE EVOLUTION AND, AND DRILL DOWN INTO SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT, THAT SEAN HIGHLIGHTED.
HERE ARE THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES AREAS, UM, WHERE YOU'RE CONSOLIDATING SOME OF THAT SERVICE AREA THAT'S IN AND AROUND, UM, THE AIRPORT.
HERE'S WHERE WE HAVE A PROGRAM, THE RETAIL SERVICE AND LODGING AREAS.
AND, AND YOU'LL NOTICE TOO, SINCE THE AIRPORT WAS BROUGHT UP TOO, CERTAINLY, UM, IN THESE AREAS, THERE, THERE ARE AIRPORT CONSTRAINTS AND CONSIDERATIONS WITH, UM, FAA RULES AND GUIDELINES, UM, THAT RELATE TO HEIGHT AND USE.
UM, SO THOSE WOULD ALL BE FACTORED INTO, UM, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AND, AND SO THAT, THAT ONE THERE WHERE THE, THE RED OR PINK, UM, SAM AND COLLAR, WHATEVER YOU IT'LL CALL IT, IT MAKES SENSE IN THOSE AREAS BECAUSE OF SOME GEOGRAPHY CONSTRICTIONS TO PROVIDE A TRANSITION BETWEEN PUBLIC SPACE OR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THAT HIGHER INTENSE, UH, SPACE.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF IT ON HERE, BUT IT'S STRATEGICALLY PLACED TO PROVIDE THAT BUFFER IN TRANSITION.
AND ALSO, THE LOCATION OF THIS DISTRICT IN ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE MID ISLAND TRACT IN THE NEW PARK, UM, IS ALSO STRATEGIC IN THAT THERE
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COULD BE SOME SERVICES THAT COULD SUPPORT THE PARK AS WELL.SO HERE YOU SEE, UM, HIGHLIGHTED THE NEW, UM, MIXED USE OR, UM, DISTRICT CENTER IN PURPLE, AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREAS ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL FOLD INTO, UM, THE DISTRICT CENTER ITSELF.
UM, EACH OF THE THREE MAIN AREAS, UM, THE DISTRICT CENTER, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, THEY, THEY ALL HAVE SOME GOALS THAT, UM, GUIDED HOW THOSE SECTIONS WERE REVIEWED.
AND THE DISTRICT CENTER REALLY FOCUSED ON COMPACT, WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD PATTERNS.
UM, MORE OF A HUB, A PUBLIC SPACE, AN ANCHOR, UM, AND A MIX OF USES, UM, SIDEWALK, GOOD COMPLETE STREETS WITHIN THESE AREAS.
UM, PROBABLY INTEGRATED PARKING OR STRUCTURED PARKING.
UM, AND REALLY LOOKING AT THE CONTEXT OF THE AREA TO SUPPORT THAT, UM, THAT MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT.
WE, WE HAVE FOR A LONG TIME THROUGH OUR CODE AND MAYBE EVEN ATTITUDES, UM, REALLY MOVED TO A SUBURBAN STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO WE DRIVE TO EVERYTHING.
IT'S A LOT OF HORIZONTAL, TAKING UP A LOT OF LAND HORIZONTALLY.
AND I ALWAYS SAY, IF YOU THINK OF A STRING ON A MAP AND YOU SAY THERE'S A, THERE'S SOME HUBS THAT MAKE SENSE TO INCREASE ACTIVITY BECAUSE YOU WANNA HAVE MORE THAN ONE SINGLE USE.
SO IF YOU PULL THE STRING UP ON THE MAP AND SAY, HERE'S WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE ACTIV ACTIVITY, THE STRING HAS TO GET SHORTER IN SOME OTHER AREAS.
SO WHEN WE GO BACK TO THAT GREEN AREA PRESERVE AND PROTECT, THERE'S A LOT OF PROTECTION WITHIN THIS DISTRICT THAT WOULD, UM, LEAD US TO HAVING THESE MORE HIGH INTENSE ACTIVITIES CENTERS, THESE HUBS THAT CAN DELIVER THESE THINGS BEYOND THE TRADITIONAL SUBURBAN STYLE.
I WANT TO DRIVE HERE, AND THEN I'M GONNA LEAVE HERE.
I'M GONNA DRIVE 200 FEET DOWN THE PARK HERE.
IT, IT'S THIS, UH, MIXED USE, COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, UM, MAKING SURE WE'RE PROTECTING AND THEN ENHANCING ACTIVITY WHERE WE CAN, OR MAKES SENSE.
SEAN, HOW, HOW FAR ALONG ARE WE ON THE PARKING PLAN? IS THERE MUCH THAT WE CAN SEE THERE IN TERMS OF, UH, NUMBER OF SPACES, DENSITY, THE REST OF IT? YEAH, THAT'LL BE, THAT'S A GREAT, UH, GREAT QUESTION.
UH, A LOT OF THAT'LL COME OUT WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION STEPS TO DO, TO DEVELOP, UH, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS DEVELOP A PARKING MANAGEMENT STRATEGY.
WE HAVE ONE FOR, UH, WELL, WITH A PARKING MANAGEMENT COMPANY FOR OUR BEACH PARKING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH TO HELP MANAGE THAT SYSTEM.
BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA BE INTENTIONAL WITH PUBLIC INVESTMENT AND MAYBE PUBLIC STREETS WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PORT ROYAL PLAZA, UM, IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH SOME PUBLIC STREETS AND, AND RECONFIGURED NORTHRIDGE AS WELL.
UM, BUT A PARKING, PARKING MANAGEMENT STRATEGY THERE THAT MAKES SENSE ON STREET, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME, MAYBE, MAYBE SOME, UH, SMALL TIERED PARKING, SMALLER LOTS THAT ARE MIXED IN AND NOT THESE MONSTER ASPHALT LOTS.
UM, COULD BE A, COULD BE A PART OF THAT STRATEGY.
AND WE'VE HAD SOME MARKET, WE DID A, THERE WAS SOME PRELIMINARY MARKET EVALUATION STUDY DONE, UM, AS THIS CONCEPT PROGRAM WAS BROUGHT FORWARD.
AND SINCE THE, THE WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 14TH WITH COUNCIL, THEY'VE DONE A MUCH MORE DETAILED MARKET ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH OF THESE TYPES OF USES COULD BE SUPPORTED BY THE MARKET.
AND THAT'LL HELP DETERMINE PARKING AND RATIOS AND ALL THAT.
SO THAT'LL BE PART OF THE NEXT THING.
SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE DISTRICT CENTER ARE, OF COURSE, MIXED USE.
SO A MIX OF USES DENSITY IN THE RANGE OF 12 TO 18 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE TO THREE STORIES.
UM, AGAIN, STRUCTURED PARKING, AND THEN LOOKING TO KEEP THAT, THAT GREEN LANDSCAPE EDGE OR BUFFER THAT'S IMPORTANT TO PROVIDING SILENT CHARACTER.
UM, AND TO DO THAT, IT WOULD REQUIRE US TO FIRST AGAIN, ADOPT A FUTURE LAND USE MAP, CREATE THAT FRAMEWORK AND, AND THAT STRUCTURE THAT SEAN WAS JUST MENTIONING.
UM, UPDATE OUR ZONING CODE, UM, OUR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS OR DESIGN GUIDELINES.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THESE ARE PRIVATELY OWNED PARCELS.
SO LOOKING AT ORGANIZATIONAL TOOLS TO GUIDE THIS IMPLEMENTATION.
YOU KNOW, WOULD THE TOWN HAVE A ROLE IN PROVIDING THE PUBLIC STREETS OR THE STRUCTURED PARKING? UM, AND HOW WOULD WE FUND THAT? UM, ALSO LOOKING AT LEVERAGING SOME PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN, UM, MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS.
SO CONNECTING, UM, THESE SPACES THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, OUR PARKS, OUR OPEN SPACES, AND, UM, AND SO THAT THERE'S A HUB OF ACTIVITY THAT, THAT IS DRAWN TO THE CENTER, THE DISTRICT CENTER, AGAIN, ON THIS ONE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CENTER WHERE WE'RE PULLING THE STRING UP, BUT ALSO LOOK AT ALL THE GREEN, UM, IT'S A LITTLE FADED, BUT ALL THE GREEN THERE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE STRING DISAPPEARS, RIGHT? AND THOSE ARE, HAVE MORE PROTECTION, UM, MORE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MORE PARK AND OPEN SPACE.
UM, WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN REDEVELOPMENTS IN THE PAST,
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LIKE LARGER SCALE.AND, AND WE'LL TAKE SHELTER COVE MALL, FOR EXAMPLE.
THE ONE REASON THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL IS THE TOWN OWNED PROPERTY ADJACENT, AND IT COULD INTEGRATE THAT INTO A MIXED USE.
SO IT ENHANCED THE PUBLIC SPACE AND THE PRIVATE SPACE.
AND WE HAVE SOME ARTICULATED STREETS, YOU KNOW, AND SHOPS THERE.
SO WITH THIS, AND I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, UM, IT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING, UM, ON AN, ON ACQUISITION AND UTILIZATION OF TOWN RESOURCES TO INTENTIONALLY PARTICIPATE IN THESE PARTNERSHIPS WHERE WE MIGHT NOT OWN THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO MAKE IT EASY, BUT WE'VE DONE IT IN NEY, WE'VE DONE IT IN SHELTER CO.
SO WE KNOW HOW THAT IT CAN BE DONE AND WE CAN LEVERAGE BOTH PUBLIC RESOURCES AND ELEVATE BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPACE.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, TO, I MAKE SURE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THAT.
PART OF IT HERE IS, UM, THE, THE DISTRICT BOUNDARY KIND OF, UM, ZOOMED IN TO THE DISTRICT CENTER AREA.
IT'S NORTHRIDGE PLAZA, SEA TURTLE MARKETPLACE IN PORT ROYAL PLAZA.
AND HERE AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, THE RING OF GREEN AROUND IT THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED.
AND AGAIN, HERE'S THE MIXED USE CENTER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE THE DISTRICT CENTER IS.
THESE SLIDES SHOWS SOME OF THE STREET NETWORK OPPORTUNITIES, AND WHERE WE MIGHT LOOK TO ENHANCE THE CIRCLES ARE WHERE WE MIGHT ENHANCE SOME INTERSECTIONS, UM, ENHANCE THE CONNECTIONS AND CONNECTIVITY OR THE, THE PINK ARROWS.
UM, AND JUST LOOKING AT OVERALL CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THERE IN OUR EXISTING, UH, ROAD NETWORK.
AND WE, AND WE HAVE A CORRIDOR STUDY UNDERWAY, UM, THAT WILL LOOK AT THE ENTIRE WILLIAM PARKWAY CORRIDOR FROM THE NORTH END TO SEE PINE CIRCLE THAT INCLUDE PALMA BAY ROAD, A FEW OTHER SECONDARY ROADS FOR THIS PATTERN BOOK AND CONSISTENCY FOR CROSSWALKS, INTERSECTIONS, CONNECTIVITY.
AND SO THIS WILL ALL BE PART OF IT.
IT'S ONE SMALL SEGMENT, BUT WHAT WE, THE GOOD THING IS WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE SAME CONSULTANT AND A LOT OF THE SAME TEAM MEMBERS.
SO THAT WILL ALL BE ALL BE TRANSLATED INTO THIS MID ISLAND SECTION.
MAYBE THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT STILL WITHIN THAT MAIN THEME OF THE OVERALL PROGRAM.
SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS, UM, A CONCEPT OF HOW WE MIGHT INTEGRATE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY, UM, AS MORE OF A FEATURE THAT GOES THROUGH THE TWO PUBLIC SPACES, THE MID ISLAND TRACT AND ASHMORE TRACT, UM, AND NOT JUST BI SEX THEM.
SO REIMAGINING IT AND MAKING THE PARKWAY PART OF THE PARK, AND, UM, OFFERING SOME MORE LANDSCAPING.
UM, AND IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A PARK, UM, IN THIS SPACE INSTEAD OF ON A HIGHWAY.
SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT GATEWAY OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL ENHANCED INTERSECTIONS HERE.
THIS SHOWS SOME OF THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND DESTINATIONS SUCH AS THE LIBRARY THAT ARE WITHIN THE VICINITY OF THE DISTRICT CENTER.
AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE, THE TRAIL, UH, CONNECTIONS, UM, THAT ARE PROPOSED, UM, TO OFFER CONNECTIVITY TO THE GREEN SPACES, AS WELL AS OUR, UM, MAIN ARTERIALS MAJOR AND MINOR ARTERIALS.
AND, AND HERE IT ALL IS ON ONE MAP, UM, WHERE IT SHOWS HOW WE COULD INTEGRATE ALL OF THAT ADDITIONAL PLANNING TO ACHIEVE THIS AS A HUB AND DIRECT, UM, MULTI, UM, LAYERS OF, OF TRAFFIC TRANSIT, UM, BIKING AND WALKING TO THE CENTER AS WELL AS TO THE PARK SPACES.
SO THEN WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE EXISTING USES AND, AND, UH, FUTURE CAPACITY OF THESE SITES.
SO HERE ARE THE PARCELS WITHIN THE DISTRICT CENTER OUTLINED IN RED, AND HERE IS IMAGINING, UM, DIFFERENT USES CONFIGURATION AND CAPACITY WITHIN THESE AREAS.
UM, THIS ENVISIONS A DIFFERENT STREET NETWORK, A MORE CONNECTED, UM, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ON THESE SITES.
UM, AND WHAT'S CIRCLED THERE ARE SOME OF THE NEW INTERSECTION TYPES, UM, THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE MORE OF A URBAN FEEL, UM, MORE OF A PLACE MAKING, UM, ENVIRONMENT, UM, WHERE YOU COULD HAVE A MIX OF USES AND SOME STREET ACTIVITY, UM, IN THESE AREAS.
AND THIS, AND THIS WAS BASED ON SOME OF THAT, THE, THE, I WOULD SAY THE PRELIMINARY MARKET ANALYSIS OR ASSESSMENT.
AND THE PROGRAM WAS BUILT BASED ON KIND OF WHAT WAS PROJECTED THAT, UM, WOULD BE SUPPORTED, UH, FROM A, FROM A DEMAND STANDPOINT.
AND THEN THEY'RE REFINING THIS A LITTLE BIT.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PINK BUILDINGS MIGHT BECOME A YELLOW BUILDING OR SOMETHING.
BUT THIS, THIS, THERE'S SOME TRUTH IN THE ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT THIS BASED ON CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS.
AND THESE ARE CERTAINLY CONCEPT DRAWINGS, UM, AND FURTHER ANALYSIS SURVEY, UM, WOULD NEED TO TAKE PLACE.
BUT IT SHOWS THE, UM, THE DESIRE TO HAVE
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BUILDINGS THAT FACE THE NEW STREET NETWORK TO HAVE PARKING TOWARD THE REAR OF THE BUILDINGS TO CREATE THAT MORE MIXED USE, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE URBAN, UM, STREET ENVIRONMENT IN PLACE.AND IT MAY TAKE MANY YEARS, RIGHT, TO GET TO THIS PRODUCT.
UM, I WOULD SAY NORTHRIDGE, RIGHT, BASED ON OWNERSHIP AND OCCUPANCY MIGHT HAVE THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY IN THE SHORT TERM THAN MAYBE PORT ROYAL, ALTHOUGH MOST OF THE SPACE IS LEASED AND OCCUPIED.
UM, AND THEN SEAT TURTLE, WHICH MUCH OF THE PROPERTY HAD BEEN REDEVELOPED, BUT NOT ALL OF IT.
AND THERE'S STILL SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE AND MAYBE RESIDENTIAL THAT COULD BE PROGRAMMED THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, YOU LAY THE FOUNDATION ON HOW THINGS BE INTENTIONAL, WHAT'S THE PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY WITH THE TOWN TO, TO ARTICULATE SOME PUBLIC STREETS WITHIN THAT.
UM, AND OTHER, OTHER INVESTMENTS.
DOES THE TOWN HAVE AN ACQUISITION STRATEGY THAT CAN HELP ACQUIRE AND LEVERAGE OVER TIME TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN FASTER? UM, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF TIMING, BUT OVER A LONG PERIOD, THIS IS THE IDEA OF HOW TO ARTICULATE, BUILD MORE MEANINGFUL MIXED USE SPACE THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT.
SO THIS IS, UM, A RENDERING THAT SHOWS, UM, WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE FROM AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE AND SHOWS, UM, THE GREEN THAT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED TO, TO MAINTAIN THE, THE BUFFERS IN THE ADJACENT USE BUFFERS FIRST.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE STREET CANOPY ON THE NEW STREETS THAT ARE PROPOSED.
UM, AND, AND HOW IT COULD LOOK.
THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER RENDERINGS THAT SHOW, UM, SOME DIFFERENT ANGLES OF HOW THIS COULD BUILD OUT.
AND HERE'S A CHARACTER IMAGE, UM, THAT SHOWS WHAT IT, WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT HAD A STREET INTERSECTION WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT MIXED USE, ONE TO THREE STORY, UM, REALLY A PLACE MAKING LOCATION COULD HAVE ON STREET PARKING, UM, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF STREET SCAPE ENVIRONMENT TO REALLY FOSTER MIXED USE AND PLACEMAKING ENVIRONMENTS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DISTRICT? AND YOU'VE BEEN ASKING ALL ALONG, BUT WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, IF NOT, BUT, SO THIS RIGHT HERE, IF YOU, IF YOU WERE TO SORT OF DROP YOURSELF IN THE MIDDLE OF NORTH RIDGE PLAZA IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING AREA, THIS COULD BE KIND OF THE, THE, UH, THE CONTACT AND AESTHETIC THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEN YOU'D HAVE THESE STREET FRONTS AND ACTIVITY AND, UH, OPEN SPACE AND OUTDOOR DINING AND EVENTS AND, AND EVERYTHING.
SO A LITTLE BIT MORE MEANINGFUL THAN THAT SUBURBAN LARGE SURFACE PARKING, UH, BIG BOX STRIP CENTER.
SO DO YOU HAVE, UM, MORE SLIDES TO GO THROUGH? UH, HOW MANY MORE MAY I ASK? DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR IT? UM, I, I WAS JUST TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER WAIT FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END OR, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, AND THEN BUTTON IT UP WITH A, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL DO THAT.
YOU GO AHEAD AND THEN WE'LL SAVE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
WE CAN COVER, UH, THE RE THE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS, KIND OF AS A, AN EXAMPLE.
AND THEN THERE'S FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE SAME APPLICATION WAS APPLYING TO ALL OF THE, OKAY, SO AGAIN, THERE'S FIVE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT.
BEGA, MITCHELLVILLE, BIG HILL, GRASSLAND, AND MARSHLAND, AND THEY'RE LABELED HERE ON THIS MAP.
AGAIN, ONE OF THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS WAS THE GO GEECHEE CULTURE PRESERVATION PROJECT REPORT, UM, WHICH REALLY LOOKED AT, UM, ALLOWING, UM, ADDITIONAL DENSITY IN THE RM, UH, FOUR ZONED, UM, AREAS AND HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS, LOOKING AT REDUCING SOME SETBACK AND BUFFERING, AS WELL AS SOME OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, UM, FOR SUBDIVISIONS.
SO SOME OF THE GOALS THAT WERE LOOKED AT FOR THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS WAS TO BOTH ADVANCE AND CELEBRATE THE HISTORY AND CULTURE, UM, LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY, UM, BOTH FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS, UM, SMALL SCALE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, UM, AS WELL AS ADDRESSING THE NEED FOR HOUSING.
AND, AND, AND LARGELY LOOKING AT FLEXIBILITY SO THAT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THESE AREAS HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO OPTIMIZE THEIR PROPERTY.
SO THEN AGAIN, UM, LIKE WE LOOKED AT BEFORE, UM, THESE NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS ARE, ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE BLACK OUTLINE.
YOU CAN SEE THE, THE RANGE OF EXISTING LAND USES WITHIN ALL OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE EXISTING ZONING THAT, THAT, UH, WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW FOR THESE FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO REALLY WHAT THE, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE PLAN LOOK AT IS TO MODIFY JUST THE ARM FOUR ZONING AREAS WITHIN THESE FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS SIDE SLIDE, THERE ARE, UM, MANY DIFFERENT,
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UM, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS.AGAIN, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT, UM, THE RM FOUR DISTRICT, AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN THIS SECTION ARE FOR ARM FOUR.
SO RIGHT NOW IN ARM FOUR, UM, IT'S FOUR DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE A LARGER PARCEL SIZE OF THREE ACRES OR LARGER, YOU CAN HAVE SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND EIGHT DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
IF YOUR PARCEL IS AT LEAST FIVE, UM, ACRES IN SIZE.
SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A RANGE OF FOUR TO EIGHT DWELLING UNITS IN THE ARM FORD DISTRICT.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH, UM, THE, THE EXISTING LAND USE AND ZONING IN EACH OF THE FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE CAN KIND OF DRILL THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY.
SO HERE'S THE GRASSLAND NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT HAS SOME MULTI-FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY IN OPEN SPACE.
IT HAS TWO ZONING DISTRICTS, ARM FOUR AND ARM 12.
AGAIN, THIS PLAN WOULD, WOULD FOCUS ON THE GREEN ARM FOUR AREA.
UM, AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT THE, UM, GULLAH CULTURE PRESERVATION REPORT TO, UM, PROVIDE GUIDANCE.
UM, BIG HILL, UH, HAS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, SINGLE FAMILY AND OPEN SPACE.
IT HAS ARM FOUR AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREAS.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ARM FOUR AREAS.
UM, FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT, MITCHELLVILLE HAS QUITE A FEW EXISTING LAND USES AS WELL AS, UH, THE MOST EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
ARM FOUR MITCHELLVILLE, ARM 12, UH, LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND PARKS AND REC.
AGAIN, THE APPLICATION OF, OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IN THE ARM FOUR SECTION.
UM, THERE ARE UTILITIES, SINGLE FAMILY, RECREATION, AND OPEN SPACE USES, AND THEY HAVE RM FOUR MITCHELLVILLE, UH, PD ONE, ARM EIGHT, ARM 12, AND PARKS AND REC EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS.
AND HERE'S THE MARSHLAND, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IT HAS A RANGE OF USES AND EXISTING ZONING OF RM FOUR, LIKE COMMERCIAL MARSH FRONT AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
AND I WANNA, UM, MAKE, MAKE A POINT ON THE DENSITY, UM, THE, THE OR ORIGINATION REAL QUICK ABOUT THE FOUR, SIX, AND EIGHT UNITS.
UM, IT'S SPENT ON THE BOOKS FOR AN AWFUL LONG TIME.
AND BEFORE THE ACCELERATION OF THE SEWER MASTER PLAN, IT USED TO BE HAD A QUARTER ACRE LOT TO HAVE A SUBJECT TANK IN DRAIN IN A, IN A DRAIN FIELD.
UH, BUT AS, AND SO IT WAS AN INCENTIVE TO CONSOLIDATE PROPERTY TO CONNECT ON TO THE SEWER SYSTEM BY, UM, GOING TO THREE ACRES OR FIVE, YOU, YOU GET THAT DENSITY.
UM, AT THE ABILITY TO BUILD ADDITIONAL DENSITY, YOU'D HAVE TO CONNECT A SEWER, UM, BUT DIDN'T PENALIZE SOMEONE THAT CAN ONLY DO FOUR UNITS AN ACRE.
UM, BUT AS WE'VE ACCELERATED THE SEWER PLAN, UM, AND ARE PUSHING FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT CONNECTION, UM, WE'RE NOT REALLY RAISING DENSITY.
WE'RE CREATING A MORE CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, AND RATHER FOUR NEXT TO EIGHT OR FOUR, NEXT TO SIX, IT IS, YOU CAN HAVE SIX TO EIGHT DWELLING UNITS, AND WE'LL GET WHAT WE'RE FINDING IN THAT NUMBER WITH SOME NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
BUT IF IT'S FOUR TO SIX OR SIX TO EIGHT ON THIS PROPERTY, AND I'M THE NEIGHBOR, IT'S SIX TO EIGHT ON MY PROPERTY, SIX AND EIGHT ON MISSY'S PROPERTY.
SO IT'S NOT 4, 6, 8 OR SO, IT'S CREATING THAT MORE CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF WHY IT WAS ON THE BOOKS, WHY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINATION THEN, AND THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT AND UNNECESSARILY JUST RAISING DENSITY, PROVIDING A BETTER, UH, MORE CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND INCREASES OPPORTUNITIES, ESPECIALLY FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE SMALLER THAN THREE EIGHT ACRES.
SO, SO MIKE, SEAN JUST MENTIONED THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE ARM FORD DISTRICTS CURRENTLY IS TO ALLOW, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES OR EXPANSION OF HOME BASED BUSINESSES.
UM, AND A MIX THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HAVE 75% RESIDENTIAL AND 25% WOULD BE THAT COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY.
AND THEN TO LOOK TO EXPAND, UM, THE DENSITY IN THE ARM, FOUR PARCELS BETWEEN A RANGE OF FOUR TO SIX, UM, DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
AND TO DO THAT, UM, WE WOULD LOOK TO, UM, CREATE THOSE UNIFORM, UH, DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND, UM, CREATE STANDARDS TO ENSURE THAT THAT PATTERN, UM, EXISTS THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, WE WOULD MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE ADDITIONAL, UM, DENSITY, AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT CALIBRATING SETBACK AND BUFFERING AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS ALSO THROUGH AN AMENDMENT, UM, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STILL ACHIEVING ISLAND CHARACTER, UM, IN THOSE, UM, AMENDMENTS.
AND THEN THE MIX, AGAIN FOR THE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY, UM, IS RESIDENTIAL AT 75% AND COMMERCIAL AT AT 25%.
AND REALLY FROM THE CHARACTER IMAGES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS SMALLER IN SCALE, UM, AND, AND IS REALLY, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL KIND OF SERVICE,
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UM, OPPORTUNITY, UM, WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.SO THE, THE PLANNING TEAM LOOKED AT SOME OF THE EXISTING DENSITIES, UM, WITHIN THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE DISTRICT.
UM, HERE'S AN EXAMPLE WITHIN THE GRASSLAND NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU CAN SEE AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S, UM, 5.7 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, THE PARCEL SIZE ITSELF IS ABOUT 3.12 ACRES.
UM, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S AN IMAGE HERE OF, OF THE, OF THE UNIT, UM, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND FEELS LIKE.
SO THE, THE PLAN OR DOCUMENT SHOWS EXAMPLES OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE RIGHT AROUND THAT SIXTH DWELL UNIT PER ACRE, UM, AND ALLOWS YOU OR THE READER TO LOOK AT WHAT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK LIKE ON THE GROUND.
UM, HERE'S ONE IN THE MITCHELLVILLE UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS, UM, A 44 SINGLE FAMILY UNIT DEVELOPMENT ON 8.36 ACRES.
AND IT, IT ROUNDS OUT TO BEING 5.2 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THIS IS A DUPLEX DEVELOPMENT CALLED TITLE BLUFF.
IT WASN'T AT THE TIME IT WAS DEVELOPED.
UM, IT'S, UH, 30 DUPLEX UNITS ON FIVE, UH, ACRES, AND IT ROUNDS OUT TO BE 5.9 12 UNITS PER ACRE.
THIS IS IN THE MARSHLAND NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THIS IS WITHIN THE MARSH FRONT MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, AND THIS IS 23 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, AND IT ROUND OUT TO BEING ABOUT 4.4 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT REAL QUICK.
IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT EXTENDS INTO THE MARSH, AND IT DOES WHAT NOW? THE LOTS, IT LOOKS, LOOKS LIKE THE, THE, THE BUILDABLE LOT AREA EXTENDS INTO THE MARSH.
IS THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR THE, UH, USABLE BUILD BUILDING AREA? YEAH, SO YOU WOULD'VE, UH, LOOKED AT WHERE THE TITLE WETLAND BOUNDARIES ARE AND THE BUFFER THAT YOU HAVE TO SET BACK FROM THAT.
UM, AND SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN REVIEWED DURING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW.
AND WHILE WE'RE ON, ON THIS ONE, UM, WE WENT ON A TOUR THIS MORNING WITH TOWN COUNCIL AND A FEW OTHERS, UM, SOME MEDIA.
AND WHILE THIS ONE OF THE FEW THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IS THE LEAST DENSE, WHEN WE TOURED 'EM, IT SEEMED LIKE THE MOST SENSE, RIGHT? SO WE TALKED ABOUT PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND SITE PLANNING IS GONNA WIN HERE MM-HMM.
AND SO MAKING SURE THAT THE, WE HAVE THAT RIGHT CALIBRATION, SO IT'S GOTTA BE DENSITY WITH THE OTHER PARTS OF THE SITE PLANNING, UM, THAT ARE, UM, MAKE THIS APPROPRIATE.
SO ONE OTHER, SINCE, SINCE WE'RE ON THIS ONE, UM, HAS CLEAR CUTTING BEEN BROUGHT UP WITH ANY OF THE CHANGES IN, IN THE DENSITY IN THE AREAS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT? YES.
TO ELIMINATE CLEAR CUTTING? YES.
TO, TO, TO GO BACK TO A, UH, STRICTER, UM, MORE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT NATURAL RESOURCE PROTECTION ON SUBDIVISIONS.
SO HERE'S A CHARACTER IMAGE OF WHAT THESE, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS COULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE A COMMUNITY GARDEN THAT COULD BE SOME OF THAT, UM, SMALL SCALE COMMERCIAL, UM, OPPORTUNITY, BUT YOU SEE A MIX OF, OF SMALLER HOMES.
UM, AND, AND THIS COULD EXIST WITHIN THE DENSITIES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD AREA SUCH AS THIS CHARACTER IMAGE.
SO NOW WE GET TO, UM, THE LAST TWO SLIDES WITH WAY TOO MANY WORDS.
UM, BUT THESE ARE, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE PLAN IS, UH, RECOMMENDING, STARTING WITH THE ADOPTION OF A FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, SO THAT CREATES THE PALLET WITH WHICH ALL OF THE REST OF THE POLICY FRAMEWORK WOULD, WOULD COME FROM.
SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP, AND THEN REALLY TO CREATE THE ENABLING LEGISLATION OR, OR POLICY SO THAT WE CAN, UM, BUILD THIS NEW ENVIRONMENT.
SO, UM, THEY INCLUDE, UM, WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, UM, WITH CREATING THOSE UNIFORM, UM, DEVELOPMENT PATTERN STANDARDS, UM, CREATE AN INFIELD DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
HOW DO WE TARGET PROPERTIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT? UM, HOW DO WE PROMOTE MIXED USE, MIXED INCOME HOUSING WITHIN THE DISTRICT, UM, WORKING TO ALIGN ALL OF OUR, UM, ZONING TO CONFORM TO THE NEW FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES.
UM, A A RANGE OF, UH, POLICY FRAMEWORK, UM, THAT WOULD LIFT THIS IDEA, UM, UP AND, UH, PUT IT INTO PLACE.
YOU KNOW, THIS, UM, THIS PLAN AND THE, WELL, THE PRESENTATION ON THE PLAN FOCUSED ON FOCUS AREAS, RIGHT? THE DISTRICT CENTER, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE PARK.
THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR ANCHORS.
AND WE WERE OUT TODAY, UM, AND WE VISITED, UM, MITCHELLVILLE, RIGHT? AND SO THE TOWN INVESTING AND PARKING AND OTHER
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INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED TO SUPPORT MITCHELLVILLE FREEDOM PARK.UM, WE TALKED ABOUT BARKER FIELD.
SO FIRST RATING LAST NIGHT, TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED A LAND SWAP WITH, WITH, UH, THE COUNTY TO ACQUIRE BARKER FIELD.
UM, AUTUM BAGEL TOWN OWNS SPARKER FIELD EXTENSION ON THE WATER SIDE, BUT BRINGING IN THE, THE COUNTY OWN PARK NOW INTO THE TOWN SYSTEM OPPORTUNITY TO REIMAGINE THAT AS AN ANCHOR.
SO, MODERN CLASSIC MOTOR SITE, UH, 3 55, WILLIAM MILTON PARKWAY WAS, UH, AN AUTO DEALER AND SERVICE STATION FOR, FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.
UM, BUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT BE ANOTHER ANCHOR BETWEEN HOSPITAL AND THE HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, SO IT'S A SERIES OF HUBS AND ANCHORS, UM, BEYOND JUST THE PARK, THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THOSE MAJOR COMMERCIAL, UH, CENTERS, AND THEN JUST NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO IT'S, IT'S LOOKING AT THE WHOLE, UM, THE WHOLE DISTRICT AND THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT, UM, EXHAUSTIVE, BUT THEY GIVE AN IDEA OF A MUCH BIGGER PICTURE THAN JUST THE FOCUS AREAS WE'VE ALREADY PRESENTED.
AND ONE OF THE MAJOR IMPLEMENTATION COMPONENTS IS TO BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PARK ITSELF.
UM, SO THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DISTRICT PLAN.
IT WAS FUNNY, WHEN WE HAD THE, THE DISTRICT PLAN COMING FORWARD, IT WAS LIKE, GOSH, WE DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO IMPLEMENT THE PARK BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS GOING IN PARALLEL AND IT'S CONNECTED, BUT I THINK THE DISTRICT WITHOUT THE PARK IS DIFFICULT TO, TO CREATE ENERGY AND PRIVATE INVESTMENT.
SO YES, INVEST IN THIS PARK, CREATE THAT ANCHOR, UM, AS ONE OF MANY, BUT PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE.
AND THEN YOUR REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WILL, UM, CAPITALIZE AND BUILD AROUND THAT.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? OKAY.
FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC HERE, WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY THREE COMMISSIONERS DURING YOUR PRESENTATION, COMMISSIONER, HENS COMMISSIONER, UH, DAR ENZO AND COMMISSIONER ALFRED ARE HERE NOW.
IN TERMS OF, UH, DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS, LET ME CALL ON THE MEMBERS OF THE PANEL HERE.
MR. DOZO, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.
SO I'M INTRIGUED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT IDEAS YOU HAVE REGARDING THE DIFFERENT, UH, SHOPPING DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, THE PORT ROYAL PLAZA AND THE OTHER TWO PLAZAS.
SO WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING THERE, THE CHARACTER SKETCHES AND THE, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLANS, THE, THOSE ARE 20, 30 YEAR LOOKS INTO THE FUTURE.
I THINK IT'S TO, TO UNDERSTAND, UM, FROM A CONCEPTUAL STANDPOINT WHAT THEY COULD BE, UM, UNDERSTAND THE ATTITUDE AND APPETITE FOR CERTAIN MIX AND DENSITY AND INTENSITY LEVELS.
UM, AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD ON IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES TO, UH, MOVE TOWARD MEETING THOSE EXPECTATIONS.
UM, AND THAT WE'RE GONNA INTENTIONALLY BE INVOLVED IN PUBLIC SPACE AND ENHANCEMENTS MM-HMM.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE WERE COMMITTING TO INVESTMENT IN THE MID ISLAND PARK MM-HMM.
IMPLEMENTATION THROUGH PHASING INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA.
SO IT IS, WE CAN COMFORTABLY MARKET AND SAY, HERE'S THE NEW DEVELOPMENT LEVELS THAT WOULD BE ENTITLED THROUGH THE LMO TO THE ZONING CHANGE.
HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE EXPECTATION FROM A PERFORMANCE CENTERS ON, UH, KIND OF THE LOOK AND FEEL AND RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PUBLIC SPACE.
AND I THINK IF WE MAKE AN INVESTMENT, UM, ON PLACE MAKING AND, UM, IN AREAS THAT RESIDENTS WILL BE PROUD TO VISIT AND PATRONIZE, THEN VISITORS WILL COME, IT'LL GENERATE MORE EXCITEMENT.
SO IS SAFE TO SAY THAT, UH, THOSE ARE, UH, LONG RANGE CAPACITY ANALYSIS THAT COULD BE PHASED INTO OVER, OVER TIME.
THEY COULD BE, AND THEY MIGHT NOT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THAT CAPACITY, BUT IT GIVES US ENOUGH INFORMATION TO CALIBRATE THE POLICY AND THE, UM, THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, SO THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN.
UH, MR. PERRY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, JUST, UM, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE, THE INPUT YOU RECEIVED FROM, FROM THOSE, WITHIN THAT AREA SUPPORT? UH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO WE DID MEET WITH STAKEHOLDERS BOTH ON THE, UM, THE NON-RESIDENTIAL, THE COMMERCIAL SPACE, AND, YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF IT, UM, IS WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THE POLICY
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FRAMEWORK IN ORDER TO MAKE IT PROFITABLE RIGHT.TO REINVEST IN SOME OF THAT SPACE.
UM, AND SO I THINK THIS PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, WHERE IT'S NOT A PENALTY TO, TO REINVEST IN SOMETHING DIFFERENT, RIGHT? SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SORT OF SINGLE USED UNIFORM SUBURBAN, SO IT WAS POSITIVE.
UM, AND IT'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS COMES BACK TO TIMING.
YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE'S JUST INVESTED, YOU KNOW, $20 MILLION IN A COMMERCIAL CENTER, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT OUT THE NEXT DAY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN.
BUT THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN INCREMENTALLY GET THERE.
UH, WE TALKED TO, UM, MANY ABOUT THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND AGAIN, BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO OUR PLAN AND THAT GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE REPORT, WE'VE TRANSLATED ALL OF THAT WORK AND INPUT INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE NOW IN PART OF THIS PLAN.
UM, WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, MEETINGS LAST WEEK.
WE PRESENTED AT THE GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE.
WE BROADCASTED A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, VIEWED IT ONLINE.
AND THEN WE HAD A MEETING AT THE LIBRARY.
WASN'T A LOT OF ATTENDEES THERE, UM, BUT THE, I WOULD SAY THAT THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED WERE POSITIVE AND IN FAVOR OF MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION.
MR. UH, SIBO, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT THANK YOU MISSY AND SEAN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
MR. HENS, ANYTHING YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH, IT WAS A GREAT JOB.
I, I HOPE IT'S NOT A 20 YEAR PLAN, BUT A, A QUICKER IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, DID YOU SAY THAT THE PARK ITSELF WOULD COST 50 TO 70 MILLION TO DEVELOP JUST, I ONLY MENTIONED IT CUZ IT WAS MENTIONED IN ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING.
YOU KNOW, UM, DEPENDING ON THE PHASING, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG A BITE OF AN APPLE PHASE ONE WOULD BE.
UM, BUT IF THE COUNCIL COMMITS TO THE PROGRAM, THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE PARK, THEN IT'LL BE WORK WITH, UH, SCHEMATIC DESIGN, YOU KNOW, MORE FINE TUNE COST ESTIMATION.
AND THEN HERE'S IN A COUNCIL ULTIMATELY AS PART OF THE BUDGET CYCLE AND CAPITAL PROGRAM, DECIDE WHAT THEY WANNA DO, UM, IN A YEAR ONE, YEAR THREE, YEAR FIVE, HOW LONG IT MIGHT TAKE.
CUZ WE ALSO HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER THE FUNDING STRATEGY, UM, SHORT TERM AND IN OVERTIME TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT.
SO THE ESTIMATES, UM, BECAUSE COUNCIL ASKED FOR IT, FOR THAT SEPTEMBER MEETING, WE NEED AN ORDER MAGNITUDE COST, WE NEED ALSO AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, UM, COST FOR EACH PHASE AND HOW YOU WOULD, HOW, HOW YOU'D IMPLEMENT IT.
AND SO THERE'S A LOGIC AND SEQUENCE TO WHAT THEY PRESENTED.
AND THERE'S ALSO SOME A CARTE OPTIONS LIKE, YOU COULD DO THIS, BUT IF YOU WANT TO ADD THIS PAVILION OR THIS, UH, THIS OPTION, IT.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A RANGE IN EACH ONE.
SO LONG ANSWER TO SAY YES, THE RANGE SEEMED, UH, RIGHT AROUND 50 TO 70 MILLION OVER A LONG TERM.
NOW WE SPENT 14 MILLION IN THE PARK AT LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION, UH, LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION PARK AT 10 ACRES.
AND SO, UM, AT A HUNDRED ACRES RIGHT, 10 TIMES THAT, UM, WE'RE AT A MUCH LOWER PER ACRE COST AND WE CAN ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF PROGRAMMING AND OPPORTUNITIES IN EACH PHASE AND THEN NOT IMPACT THAT PHASE WITH THE SUB NEXT SUBSEQUENT PHASE.
SO THERE'S ABILITY TO GET IT UNDERWAY OF PHASE ONE, HAVE SOME OPENING USE OF THE PARK, AND THEN BUILD AROUND THAT AND, AND NOT DISRUPT IT FOR A LONG, LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, UM, WITH THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS, I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE.
THAT'S HEIR'S PROPERTY AND THEN HOW, HOW DOES THE REDEVELOPMENT WORK WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU HAVE, UH, PERCENTAGE OF HEIR'S PROPERTY, THAT'S, THAT'S LIKELY PRETTY LARGE.
THE, UM, SO IN THE, IN THE GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE REPORT, YOU KNOW, PART OF, UM, THE, WELL, THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDING, UH, INCLUDED MECHANISMS TO TRY TO TRY TO ADDRESS OR CLEAR PROPERTY, UM, WE DON'T PUBLICLY SAY HERE'S WHO OWNS IT AND HERE WHO DOESN'T.
HERE'S, UH, PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T OWNED THROUGH AIRS PROPERTIES.
UM, BUT THE TOWN JUST ADOPTED, UM, OUR AUTHORIZED CREATION OF A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, UM, TO HELP US ASSIST COMMUN, UM, HISTORIC COMMUNITIES, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THERE'S SOME FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT ARE NOW IN PLACE THAT CAN HELP, UM, AND BY THE, THIS DISTRICT PLAN, IT CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS TO, UM, BE MORE SUSTAINABLE IN THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
SO IF IT'S JUST RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THAT, RIGHT? I'M HAPPY I HAVE A HOUSE HERE, THAT'S ALL I ALL I NEED.
AND THEN WE'VE ALSO HEARD, WE, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SELL SOME SMALL WEARS.
I HEARD AT THE MEETING ON, AT THE LIBRARY LAST MONDAY, SOMEONE MAKES THEIR OWN BARBECUE SAUCE.
AND I WAS LIKE, MAN, I CAN'T WAIT TO TRY IT.
AND HE'S WAITING FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
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TO BE ABLE TO MAKE BARBECUE SAUCE AND SELL IT AT A LITTLE SPOT ON HIS PROPERTY, UM, THAT, THAT IS HIS FAMILY'S OWN FOR GENERATIONS.SO, UM, THEY'LL BE MORE DEVIL IN DETAILS.
BUT THERE, THERE WASN'T AN OBJECTION TO THE CONCEPT OF, OF CONSISTENT DENSITY, A LITTLE HIGHER LEVEL FOR THE LOWER SMALLER PROPERTIES, AND THEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL HOME OCCUPATION.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, MR. ALFRED? YEAH.
SORRY I'M LATE AND MISSED THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION AND PERHAPS YOU COVERED THIS.
UH, IS THIS PROPOSAL DESIGNED TO LEAD TO CHANGES IN, UH, THE L O AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE? OR IS IT DESIGNED TO, UH, SEEK DEVELOPERS FOR THESE PARTICULAR TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT YOU SHOWED ON THE SCREEN? THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAID, I WAS GONNA, YEAH, I COVERED IT BEFORE YOU GOT HERE MM-HMM.
THE OUTCOME OF THIS IS TO CALIBRATE THE LMO FINALLY WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND, UM, AND THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE.
SO IT'S TO SET THE EXPECTATIONS FROM THE LMO STANDPOINT TO RE RESET.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THE, IF HALF THE LMO GETS THROWN OUT OR MORE, BUT SOME OF IT GETS RE REVAMPED TO BE ABLE TO MEET THIS, THESE EXPECTATIONS AND THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE MARKETING AND EXCITEMENT AROUND INVESTMENT IN THE DISTRICT.
SO TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND SAY, WITH THESE CHANGES, HERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TODAY, BUT YOU WILL HAVE THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENTS TO REINVEST TO, TO, TO, UM, COME UP WITH A, A DIFFERENT PROGRAM AND CONCEPT FOR COMMERCIAL MIXED USE.
COULD BE, UM, WORKFORCE HOUSING ELEMENTS THAT ARE NOW POSSIBLE THAT WE'RE PROBABLY COST PROHIBITIVE BECAUSE OF THE HORIZONTAL SUBURBAN LOWER INTENSITY OPTIONS.
SO YES, ABSOLUTELY ALAMO CHANGES AND THEN, UM, INTENTIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THAT WOULD BE INTENTIONAL TO, TO, TO PROMOTE, TO, TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD.
UH, MR. CAMPBELL, JUST ONE QUICK COMMENT.
UM, I KNOW WE WENT THIS PRESENTATION TASK FORCE, MR. ARNOLD SAID THIS TOO.
I KNOW YOU HAD SILLY TUB UP THERE.
IT'S ONE OF THE SLIDES AND THAT WAS APPROVED BEFORE.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE, AND I'LL SAY THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE, WOULD BE APPROVED BASED ON EVEN THE CURRENT, RIGHT? CAUSE THOSE ARE THREE ACRE LOTS.
UM, WE, WE TOOK A TOUR THAT WAS ONE OF OUR STOPS TODAY, AND WE GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT SYLVIE TUB, ESPECIALLY IN COMPARISON TO SOME OF THE OTHERS, RIGHT? EVEN THOUGH IT'S MAYBE A SLIGHTLY, UM, HIGHER DENSITY THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS WE SAW MM-HMM.
AND SOME OF THAT WAS THE PRIDE AND OWNERSHIP AND UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE OF THAT FACILITY WAS SECOND TO NONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE LOOKED AT TODAY.
IT'S A GREAT MODEL THAT COULD BE REPEATED, NOT JUST IN GRASSLAND, BUT IN OTHER AREAS.
ALL RIGHT, MR. O'NEILL? YEAH, JUST A COUPLE OF CHICKEN AND EGG TYPE QUESTIONS, SEAN.
UM, YOU, YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, THE MIX AND THE DENSITY ISSUE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS THING.
AND I WILL ADMIT THAT I COULDN'T FOLLOW IT, BUT I'M SURE SOMEBODY IS.
UM, BUT IN THERE, AT SOME POINT ALONG THE WAY, UH, SOMEONE IS GONNA HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, WELL, THIS CHANGE TO THE L LMO AND THIS DENSITY FIG FIGURE HELPS A CERTAIN GROUP AND PERHAPS CREATES PROBLEMS FOR ANOTHER.
AND I THINK CLARITY OF THAT PRETTY EARLY IN THE PROCESS IS, IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, SO THAT'S MORE COMMENT THAN A QUESTION, BUT, AND THE SECOND ONE IS, UM, JUST AS CHAIR OF THE CAPITAL COMMITTEE, UM, ANOTHER CHICKEN OR EGG, RIGHT? IS IT THE POLICY AND PROCEDURE STUFF THAT YOU GOTTA MAKE THE DECISIONS ON BEFORE, UM, YOU CAN MAKE THE CAPITAL DECISIONS? AND, UM, CAN YOU COMMENT AT ALL ON THE TIMING OF BOTH OF THOSE, ESPECIALLY CAPITAL, CUZ UM, YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND, UH, I DID A PRESENTATION WITH JENNIFER RAY, OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR FOR O CLASS EARLIER THIS WEEK.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS ABOUT USING OUR PLAN, UM, AS SORT OF THE GUIDE, AND THEN WE GET INTO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, OUR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES, HOW THAT INFORMS BUDGET MM-HMM.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE CAPITAL PROGRAM IS SORT OF AN OUTCOME AND HOW WE STRATEGY GET THERE.
SO YEAH, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AN IDEA WHAT THE PROGRAM IS.
AND THE GOOD QUESTION ABOUT, HEY, IS IT, HOW BIG IS IT? 50 TO $70 MILLION? WELL, IT, IT'S SCARY.
IT'S A SCARY NUMBER, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AND YOU PUT IT UP THERE, GOSH, IF YOU DID EVERYTHING AND COST SOME MATERIALS AND IT COULD BE $70 MILLION, WELL THEN YOU BACK INTO IT AND SAY, YOU CAN'T DO $70 MILLION OF DEVELOPMENT ALL AT ONCE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FIND CONTRACTORS MATERIALS TO DO A
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HUNDRED ACRE DEVELOPMENT ALL AT ONCE.SO IT IS BACK TO, BASED ON THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE, THE FUNDING SOURCES, WE CAN IDENTIFY THE RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT, RIGHT? SURVEYORS AND DESIGNERS AND CONTRACTORS AND ALL OF THAT.
DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, WHAT CAN WE EFFECTIVELY MANAGE IN A CAPITAL PROGRAM, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND SO WE ADOPT A BUDGET WITH A ONE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN FOR THAT YEAR.
THIS YEAR WAS A 45 MILLION PROGRAM.
WE WILL NOT SPEND 45 MILLION THIS YEAR, BUT WE ARE, UM, SETTING AND TEEING UP TO WHERE WE WILL DO, UM, ACCELERATE THE, UM, THE PROGRAM TO, TO DELIVER MORE PRODUCT.
SO IT'S, IT'S PART OF THAT, UM, MARK THAT WE WILL INFORM OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM WITH THE PROGRAMMING THAT WOULD APPROVED TO THE MASTER PLAN, UM, AND VICE VERSA, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE BIG PICTURE, THEN YOU UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH YOU CAN DO AND THE TIMING IT'LL TAKE TO GET THERE.
AND THEN YOU MOVE THROUGH SORT OF A CYCLE.
SO IF IT'S A FIVE, FIVE PHASES, HERE'S PHASE ONE, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THROUGH SCHEMATIC CONSTRUCTION, A DETAILED DESIGN, PERMITTING, CONSTRUCTION.
SO AS THE FIRST ONE GETS ON WITH SCHEMATIC, THEN YOU START THE NEXT PHASE.
SO THEY'RE READY TO GO MM-HMM.
AND THEN BASED ON RESOURCE ALLOCATION, AVAILABILITY OF CONTRACTORS, COMPETITIVENESS OF THE MARKET, OTHER THINGS, THEN YOU DECIDE HOW TO MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THAT ENVIRONMENT.
SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO WATCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR, IT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION.
LASTLY, UH, I TAKE IT TO THE CURRENT RECYCLING CONVENIENCE CENTER LIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YES, SIR.
UH, WHAT ARE THE LONG RANGE, UH, PLANS THERE, UH, THAT WERE DISCUSSED? THAT'S A, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
AND WE'RE GONNA OUTLINE, UM, IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE OF TOWN COUNCIL IN OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, THERE'S A, A STRATEGIC ITEM ABOUT, UM, A SWA STRENGTH, STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS OF SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING.
THERE HAVE BEEN TWO RESOLUTIONS NOW, SECOND ONES COMING FORWARD TO THAT SAME COMMITTEE IN OCTOBER 27TH, BOTH THOSE ITEMS ON OCTOBER 27TH, UM, FROM THE GIC TO WORK THE TOWN TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON A MATERIAL, UM, RECYCLING FACILITY OR SORTING FACILITY ON THE MAINLAND.
AND THEN TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PROGRAM OF SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING COUNTY AND TOWN, UH, COLLECTIVE.
AND SO PART OF THAT WILL BE AN EVALUATION OF THE ON ISLAND COUNTY RUN CONVENIENCE CENTER THAT'S ON TOWN PROPERTY.
SO IT'S AN, IT'S A MOUTHFUL, BUT WE'RE BEGINNING TO WORK THROUGH THAT, UM, INITIATIVE TO EVALUATE, UH, SOLIDATION RECYCLING, WHAT THAT PROGRAM MIGHT BE FROM A COUNTY AND TOWN STANDPOINT AND WHAT IT MEANS FROM A FACILITY STANDPOINT THERE AT THE CURRENT CONVENIENCE CENTER.
THE, UH, LAST THING IS, IS I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE SLIDES THERE.
IS IT, IS IT PART OF THE, THE PROPOSAL OR THE PLAN THAT, UH, YOU WOULD WIDEN THE MEDIAN ON WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY, UH, RIGHT NEAR THE, THE, UH, MID ISLAND TRACK SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR LINES WERE GOING INTO PARKLAND, UH, AREA? THERE IS, THAT WAS A, IS THAT PART OF IT? IT WAS A, SO AGAIN, CONCEPT LEVEL, THE IDEA OF, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING THE ROADWAY GO THROUGH THE PARK MM-HMM.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS STRONG SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL TO SHIFT, UM, A COUPLE LANES OF THE PARKWAY FURTHER INTO MID TO MID ISLAND, BUT IT WAS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT DRAWING.
IT'S BEEN, UH, AND THE, AND THE FULL PURPOSE OF THAT WOULD BE JUST TO WIDEN THE MEDIAN FOR LANDSCAPING, UH, FOR, UH, PEOPLE COMING ON THE ISLAND TO KIND OF, TO KINDA SHIFT IT FROM A, LIKE A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A PARKWAY THROUGH THERE, SHIFT IT FROM A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED, UM, HIGHWAY TO A LITTLE BIT MORE INTEGRATION OF THE EXPERIENCE AS YOU TRAVEL THROUGH THE PARK, RIGHT? SO NOT JUST BEING IN THERE ON YOUR BIKE OR ON FOOT, BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY TRAVELED AND GOT TO EXPERIENCE SOME OF THE PARK.
SO ALSO ONE REAL SMALL THING, BUT INSIDE THE, UH, THE MAIN PART OF THE PARK THERE, UH, IT LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD, UH, PATHWAYS, UH, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE TO BE ONE CONTINUOUS ROUND PATHWAY IN THERE.
IT SEEMED TO ME THAT FOR JOGGERS AND, AND OTHER PEOPLE, THAT IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO HAVE A KIND OF A CIRCULAR SITUATION.
SO YOU CAN TAKE A LONG WALK OR A JOG OR, OR RIDE YOUR BIKE OR WHATEVER.
UH, JUST, I JUST NOTICED THAT, I JUST THOUGHT IT SEEMED SILLY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A COMPLETE LOOP THERE.
I, UH, I THANK YOU, UH, SEAN AND MISSY FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
THIS IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES TO THE COMMISSION, AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED, UH, PRESENTATION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED FOR US.
YOU'RE HIRED BACK AS A FULL-TIME INTERN.
UM, WHEN WE DID THE APPEARANCE BY CITIZENS, WE DID NOT SPEAK ABOUT THE PORTAL, THE ONLINE PORTAL COMMENTS, AND WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES HERE WHO SUBMITTED THAT COMMENT, UM, THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
UH, I'VE, I'VE READ THAT, UH, COMMENT, UH, THAT WAS ON THE PORTAL AND I WAS VERY INTERESTED
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IN IT.AND IS THERE A SPOKESPERSON FOR THAT? KEITH? HI, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH Y'ALL.
WOULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD? I'M SORRY.
UM, WE'RE REPRESENTING THE, UM, OCEAN WOOD PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
WE HAVE SOME OTHER MEMBERS HERE ON THE ROW,
UM, KEITH AND I ARE FULL-TIME RESIDENTS HERE, AND WE LIVE AT NORTH FOREST BEACH COURT, WHICH IS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT OF 13 HOMES AND THREE STREETS OVER FROM US IS CAPRI LANE.
AND IT'S SIX CAPRI HAS BEEN BUILT A HUGE STRUCTURE.
DO YOU WANNA SHOW THE PHOTO? I'M SORRY WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT KEITH DOES HAVE A PHOTO.
UM, IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, IF Y'ALL GOT MY LITTLE PROVIDER WILL PASS IT AROUND.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL, Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT.
I'M NOT GONNA READ THE WHOLE THING, BUT, UM, BASICALLY WE HAVE LOVED HILTON HEAD BECAUSE OF ITS PRESERVATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE BEAUTY OF THE ISLAND, THE LOW SIGNAGE, AND THIS IS ANYTHING BUT THIS LOOKS LIKE MYRTLE BEACH.
UM, AND WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S FIVE PARCELS OF PROPERTY THAT HAVE BEEN CONJOINED.
UM, WHAT AM LOOKING, BELIEVE ME, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, IT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT I'VE HEARD.
WE'VE DONE SOME SLEUTHING, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL THAT ACQUIRED FIVE PARCELS.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE MAYBE GOING TO TRY TO BOOK THIS PER ROOMS RATHER THAN PER HOME.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS GOT IN UNDER THE RADAR, BUT CERTAINLY EVERYONE THAT I'VE TALKED TO, EVERY NEIGHBOR, EVERY FRIEND I'LL SAY, GO DOWN AND LOOK AT SIX CAPRI, AND THEY GO DOWN AND THEY'RE SHOCKED.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S SO ANTITHETICAL TO WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS.
AND SO OUR CONCERN IS HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? HOW DO WE PREVENT IT IN THE FUTURE? UM, WHY IS IT ALLOWED THAT SO MANY PARCELS? IT LOOKS LIKE SO MANY PARCELS WERE COMBINED.
UM, FOR ONE, WHAT WE KEEP CALLING A A COMPOUND AND HOW WAS THIS STRUCTURE, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND IT WAS CALLED A PLAYGROUND, THAT SOMEHOW THEY GOT AROUND ZONING ISSUES BY CALLING IT A PLAYGROUND, WHICH OF COURSE THE NORTH FORCE BEACH, UH, ZONING LAWS WHEN THEY WERE FORMED WOULD'VE BEEN WAY BEFORE SOMEBODY COULD FORESEE, UH, YOU KNOW, A 30 FOOT, UM, 30 FOOT WATER SLIDE.
COUPLE OF WATER, I'M SORRY, 26 AND A HALF.
SO WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR YOUR HELP IN HOW TO PREVENT THIS.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING UP AND THANK YOU FOR SENDING IN.
I WAS A WELL-READ, UH, PIECE THAT YOU SENT US AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, UH, MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS? YEAH.
UM, SO WHEN I READ IT TODAY, I, I GOOGLED SIX CAPRI LANE.
I WAS TRYING TO, I WAS HOPING TO GET BY THERE TODAY BEFORE THE MEETING.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ALL OF OUR EXPRESSIONS UP HERE, WHEN, WHEN YOU SHOWED THE PICTURE WAS LIKE THAT'S, THAT WAS RECENTLY BUILT.
UM, HAS IT BEEN, HAS IT BEEN OPENED UP YET? THEY'RE JUST FINISHING IT.
I, I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY FIND OUT FROM TOWN STAFF WHAT HAD TRANSPIRED WITH THIS BECAUSE THAT'S, UM, I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE, IN THE REALM OF BEING ACCEPTABLE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? UH, THEY WANT TO GET IN ON THIS.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS A PERMIT, IF IT WAS FOR THIS.
I WE NEED TO, I WOULD ASSUME NEED DO SOME RESEARCH.
THERE ARE TWO PERMITS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT NEITHER ONE EXPLICITLY CALLS OUT A WORK FLIGHT.
TALK TO THE POOL AND IT LOOKS LIKE A GARAGE, BUT I THINK IT'S CENTER.
IT, IT LOOKS KINDA LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO A HOTEL AND THEY HAVE A POOL BAR AND IT HAS AN ACCORDION DOOR THAT GOES UP AT THE SNACK BAR.
AND THERE'S A, SOUNDS LIKE FUN, BUT NOT THERE.
I MEAN, YOU JUST NEED TO GO OVER THERE AND LOOK AT IT.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU COULD ADD TO THIS? I WAS JUST GONNA ADD THAT THE, UH, STAFF IS AWARE OF THIS.
UM, IT DOES MEET ALL OF THE TALENT ALAMO REQUIREMENTS THAT WE SETBACK BUFFERS.
UM, AND WE HAVE ADDED IT TO OUR LIST OF LMO AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS THIS.
SO IT DOES NOT OCCUR IN THE FUTURE.
HOW ABOUT A, AS A DESIGN STRUCTURE? YEAH.
DO WE NOT HAVE ANY OVERSAY ON THAT? ON THE WHAT? I'M SORRY.
DESIGNS, YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURE OF THE DESIGN OF WHAT CAN GO THERE? HAVE YOU SEEN IT? I HAVE SEEN IT.
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I'VE BEEN BY THERE.UM, YOU KNOW, IT, THEY DID HAVE TO GET APPOINTMENT FOR IT SO THAT IT MET ALL OF THE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS AND IT DOES MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS.
THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR CODE THAT, UM, HAS PROVISIONS FOR RESIDENTIAL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
UM, IS IT WITHIN ZONING, UH, REQUIREMENTS? IT MEETS THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER THEIR OWN LITTLE HOTEL THERE.
LIKE I MENTIONED, WE, WE DID ADD IT TO OUR LIST OF LMO AMENDMENTS.
UM, SO WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THIS SO IT DOES NOT OCCUR AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
THAT'S IS THERE IS NICOLE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, THAT CAN BE DONE, UH, RETROACTIVELY HERE, UH, ON THIS THING? IN OTHER WORDS, UH, WE ALLOWING AMUSEMENT PARK TO OPEN UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, IT, IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
AND WHILE THEY MAY RENT OUT THE HOMES, IT IS CONSIDERED A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME.
UM, AND WE DO HAVE, UH, TOWN OFFICIALS LOOKING INTO IT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT MEETS THE, THE BUILDING, UM, PERMIT ONCE THEY DO THEIR FINAL INSPECTIONS, PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE ZONING BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS THING TOO, UH, AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING HERE.
THIS JUST SEEMS TOTALLY OUT OF PLACE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT IT'S, IT WAS A BY RIDE STRUCTURE.
SO IT DIDN'T COME BEFORE ANY OF THE, THE COMMITTEES OR COMMISSIONS.
UM, WHICH IN TURN LEADS TO THE, THE QUESTION AS WE WERE JUST SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT THE LMO CHANGES OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, REVAMPED, WHAT, WHAT WORKED BEFORE DOESN'T WORK NOW.
UM, YEAH, I I WOULD SAY THAT WE NEED TO SEND A MESSAGE ON THIS.
IF SOMEBODY GETS AWAY WITH THIS, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF COPYCATS.
THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT HOW TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTIES.
AND, UH, SO, UM, MY SUGGESTION AND, UH, SEE IF I CAN GET A, A, A VOTE OR A CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION THAT STAFF SHOULD, UH, CHECK INTO THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, VERY CLOSELY.
AND ALSO THE, MAYBE THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEAL SHOULD, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS THING.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME WAY THAT THIS VIOLATES A COMMUNITY STANDARD OF, UH, OF A NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AREA TO BE PUTTING THIS KIND OF A SO-CALLED AMUSEMENT PARK OR IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
AND IF THEY TRY TO RENT IT ROOM BY ROOM AS A HOTEL, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER THING AS OPPOSED TO RUNNING A A HOME.
MIKE, JUST JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
DID I HEAR SOMEBODY SAY THOUGH THAT THEY WERE TREATING IT AS A COMPOUND AND THAT IT'S FOR MORE THAN JUST ONE HOME? WE'VE ALL BEEN CALLING IT THE COMPOUND BECAUSE APPARENTLY IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONE ENTITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL CORPORATION, A BANK, I DON'T KNOW THAT HAS DEVELOPED FIVE PROPERTIES.
IT'S AN OCEAN FRONT AND FOUR OTHERS.
PREVIOUSLY THEY WERE RENTING IT OUT ROOM BY ROOM.
YOU, IF YOU LOOK AND WE'RE NOT SURE NOW WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN WITH, SO WE DON'T KNOW.
BUT, BUT WE DO WANT TO, I MEAN, I WAS WONDERING IF ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS IS, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ONE.
WELL, MAYBE WE CAN, MAYBE WE CAN
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S LITTLE PLOTS OF LAND ALL THROUGHOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL THROUGHOUT NORTH FOR SPEECH WATER SLIDES RIGHT OUTSIDE OUR DOOR PRACTICALLY.
WELL, I, I CAN ASSURE YOU FROM, UH, MY PERSPECTIVE AT THE COMMISSION THAT, UH, WE WILL KEEP ON THIS THING AND FIND OUT IF THERE ARE VIOLATIONS OF CODE ANYWHERE.
AND IF THEY ARE, THEN WE COME DOWN HEAVILY.
SO I, I WILL SPEAK TO THE, THE ROOM BY ROOM THAT, THAT, THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED.
UM, IF, IF IT IS HAPPENING, IT'LL BE DISCOVERED AND FOUND OUT NEXT YEAR WHEN GOV OS UM, STARTS PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE TOWN.
AND THEY START MONITORING ALL THAT.
UM, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE THE FOUR SPEECH OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
DID IT COME BEFORE THEM? I, I ATTEND SOME OF THE MEETINGS.
THEY, THEY SAID THAT THEIR COVENANT DID NOT ADDRESS ANY OF THIS WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN BACK IN THE SEVENTIES.
NOBODY FORESAW, THIS IS ONE OF THE STATEMENTS THEY MADE.
IT WAS NOBODY FORESAW SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENING.
AND SO IT WASN'T SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED WITHIN THEIR COVENANT, SO THEY COULDN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
HOWEVER, I HAVE A, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS A LAWYER WHO VISITED LAST WEEK, AND HE, HE WAS SAYING IT, HE SAID THERE, YOU KNOW, HERE IS A CONCEPT THAT YOU KNOW OF.
LIKE, YOU KNOW THAT IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE EVERY LITTLE DETAIL SPELLED OUT IN A COVENANT IF SOMETHING VIOLATES IT IN THE SPIRIT OF THE, OF THE WHOLE THEN RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, IT COULD HAVE THAT'S, BUT, BUT THEY DIDN'T TAKE THAT APPROACH EVIDENTLY.
AND MR. PERRY, YOU SAID IT WAS APPROVED AS A, WHAT STRUCTURE DID YOU SAY? UH, UH, BY RIGHT MEANING THAT BY RIGHT, BY RIGHT.
UM, WITH THE LMO AND WHAT WAS DOWN THERE, UM, THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COME BEFORE A COMMITTEE OF THE TOWN.
THEY JUST WENT TO THROUGH STAFF APPROVAL.
AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BY, ENCOURAGE YOU VERY MUCH TO GO BUY THREE SIX CAPRI WILL DO.
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AND COMING FOR US.I'LL COMPOUND MYRTLE BEACH TO GO TO MYRTLE BEACH.
THIS IS A PART OF WHAT? IT'S SEVERAL BUILDINGS, BUT IF YOU LOOK IT'S STYLE OF THE FENCING AND THE SIGN, ALL THE SAMES KINDA THING.
UM, THE NEXT WE HAVE BEFORE US, UH, S T D V 0 0 2 1 9 0 2 0 2 2.
REQUEST FROM NADINE CHAP OWNER OF R 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 300 OH OH OH OH.
TO NAME A NEW ACCESS EASEMENT OFF SPANISH WELLS ROAD.
UH, THERE ARE, UH, NO OTHER EFFECTIVE PARCELS, UH, PRESENTED BY FIRE RESCUE STAFF.
HELLO, JOE HIDA FISTER, DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF.
UM, I AM PRESENTING THE REPORT TODAY AND SHAFER R IS A SENIOR PLANNER THAT IS, UM, AVAILABLE AS WELL AS NICOLE DIXON.
IF THERE ARE PLANNING QUESTIONS.
UM, I AM HERE SOLELY TO NAME THE ROADS.
ALL RIGHT, SO, UM, HILL NET ISLAND FIRE RESCUE ON BEHALF OF NADINE CHAPLAIN PROPOSES TO NAME A VEHICULAR ACCESS EASEMENT.
IT'S LOCATED OFF OF SPANISH WELLS ROAD.
NADINE MANOR PROVIDES DIRECT ACCESS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF NINE DWELLING UNITS.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE APPLICATION BASED UPON THE CRITERIA THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE L O.
UH, YOU CAN SEE IT IS ALMOST AT THE INTERSECTION OF WHERE THE TWO SPANISH WELLS, UM, ROADS COME TOGETHER AND THE CROSS ISLAND.
AND THIS IS, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT WAS, UM, SUBMITTED WITH FOUR HOMES, BUT THERE ARE, THE PARCEL IS BIG ENOUGH TO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF NINE HOMES ON IT.
SO CRITERIA A, UH, IT DOES, UM, IT'S NOT D THE STREET NAME'S NOT DUPLICATED WITHIN THE TOWN OR BEAUFORT COUNTY.
UM, WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED STREET NAME IS, IS NOT PHONETICALLY SIMILAR TO ANY EXISTING STREET OR ACCESS EASEMENT.
UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE DETERMINED THAT IT WILL NOT BE CONFUSED WITH ANY EXISTING STREET OR ACCESS EASEMENT.
SO THE PROPOSED STREET NAME NAD MANOR MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS CRITERIA.
UM, WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT IT'S SIMPLE, LOGICAL, AND EASY TO READ.
IT IS CLEAR AND BRIEF, AND IT DOES NOT HAVE FRIVOLOUS OR COMPLICATED WORDS OR AN UNCONVENTIONAL SPELLING.
UH, THE PROPOSED STREET NAME A DEAN MANOR WAS SELECTED BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS THE HISTORY OF THE PARCEL USING THE OWNER'S FIRST NAME.
UM, MS. CHAPLIN, THAT WAS, UH, HER FIRST REQUEST FOR NAMING THE STREET CRITERIA D.
IT'S, UM, THERE ARE NO OTHER, IT'S THE ONLY STREET IN THAT PROPERTY, SO IT DOES MEET THIS REQUIREMENT.
IT IS A SINGLE STREET, SO IT DOES HAVE ANY TURNS OR ADDITIONAL, UM, STREETS.
SO IT DOES MEET THAT CRITERIA.
SO CRITERIA G UM, REQUESTS THAT, UM, CERTAIN STREETS USE ALL AVENUES, BOULEVARD CIRCLE.
UM, THE PROPOSED STREET NAME IS MANNER, AND SO THIS CRITERIA DOES NOT APPLY TO THAT APP, THIS APPLICATION.
AND THE LMO, UM, ASKED THAT THE SUFFIX SUFFIXES MANNER TRACE IN COMMON SHALL BE TYPICALLY USED FOR ACCESS EASEMENTS, WHICH THIS IS AN ACCENT EASEMENT, AND THAT'S WHY WE ADDED MANNER TO THE NAME.
SO IT DOES MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
UM, IT, THE SUBJECT STREET IS NOT BROKEN INTO TWO STREETS, SO THIS CRITERIA DOES NOT APPLY.
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AND SO IN SUMMARY, THAT THE STREET NAME HAS BEEN VETTED AND MEETS THE CORRECT CRITERIA SET OUT IN THE LMO.AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO MORE ALONG LINE.
UH, AT THIS POINT I WILL, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND, MR. CAMPBELL? SECOND HEARING? UM, I'LL, YOU NEED PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, WE, UH, OH YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
ARE THERE ANY HEARING? YEAH, I'M SORRY.
UH, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL? SEEING NONE? YES, I WOULD.
ON ACTUALLY REPRESENTING MEETING CHAPTER, I'M HER BROTHER, AND, UH, SHE SENT ME HERE ALL THE WAY FROM FRANKFURT, GERMANY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THIS GET APPROVED.
AND IF IT DOESN'T, I CANNOT GO HOME.
SO
SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU ON BEHALF OF MY SISTER, PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.
AS FOR THE PROPOSAL,
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM MR. CAMPBELL.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS PARTICULAR MOTION, RAISE YOUR HANDS ANY AGAINST, ALL IN FAVOR.
AND WE HAVE UNANIMOUS VOTE ON THIS, KAREN.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE PRESENTATION AND YOUR COMMENTS, SIR.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE THE SST V S T D V 0 0 2 2 0 5 2 0 2 2.
REQUEST FROM BRETT CALLAHAN WITH, UH, HILTON HEAD ACQUISITION PARTNERS LLC TO NAME A NEW DRIVEWAY LOCATED AT 15 WILMINGTON COURT.
THE AFFECTED PARCEL IS R 5 1 0 0 0 9 0 1 2 0 5 0 0, PRESENTED BY FIRE AND RESCUE.
SO AGAIN, I AM JOE HIDE, FISTER, AND ON BEHALF OF, UH, FIRE RESCUE AND THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND ACQUISITION PARTNERS, WE PROPOSE TO NAME THE VEHICULAR DRIVEWAY MEMORIES LANE.
IT'S LOCATED OFF OF FOLLEY FIELD ROAD, AND IT PROVIDES DIRECT ACCESS TO NINE BUILDINGS ON THE PARCEL.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE APPLICATION BASED ON THE REVIEW CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE LMO.
UM, IT'S CURRENTLY ADDRESSED AS 15 WIMBLE IN COURT BECAUSE IT IS THE TENNIS COURTS, AND THAT'S HOW THEY WERE ACCESSED AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
UM, IT IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, WILL, THE ACCESS WILL COME OFF OF FOLLEY FIELD ROAD AND, UM, THERE ARE PROPOSED TO BE NINE BUILDINGS.
UM, I'LL JUST SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE THIS IS THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UM, ACROSS FROM IT IS, UH, ISLAND CLUB, UM, AND IT IS FRONTED BY FOLLEY FIELD ROAD.
AND THEN THIS IS A PICTURE OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND, UM, THE, WE ARE PROPOSING TO NAME THE DRIVEWAY THROUGH IT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ADDRESS NUMBERS TO NUMBER EACH BILL BUILDING INDIVIDUALLY.
SO WE HAVE VETTED THE NAMES THAT THEY PROPOSED.
UM, THEY ARE NOT DUPLICATED WITHIN THE TOWN OR THE COUNTY.
THEY'RE NOT PHONETICALLY SIMILAR TO ANY EXISTING STREET OR EASEMENT.
UM, AND THEY, IT WILL NOT LIKELY BE CONFUSED WITH ANY EXISTING STREET OR EASEMENT.
THE PROPOSED STREET NAME MEMORIES, LANE MEETS THEIR REQUIREMENTS OF THAT CRITERIA.
UH, WE HAVE VETTED IT AND IT'S SIMPLE, LOGICAL, AND EASY TO PRONOUNCE.
UM, IT IS CLEAR AND BRIEF AND IT DOES NOT INCLUDE FRIVOLOUS OR COMPLICATED WORDS OR ANY UNCONVENTIONAL SPELLING, UH, MEMORIES.
LANE WAS SELECTED, UH, BECAUSE THEIR, THEIR DESCRIPTION WAS THAT, UM, THE REASON FOR VISITING THE PROPERTY, UM, REPRESENTS NATURE AND, UM, WILL CREATE MEMORIES.
UH, THE PROPOSED, I, I CUT AND PASTED NOT TOO GOOD IN THIS ONE.
UM, SO THE, THE PROPOSED STREET NAME, UM, IS REFLECTIVE OF ISLAND CHARACTER AS THAT IT, THEY ARE CREATING MEMORIES HERE.
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UM, THE PROPOSED MEMORIES LANE, IT DOES NOT CONTINUE THROUGH ANY INTERSECTION.IT DOES NOT MAKE A RIGHT ANGLE TURN.
UM, IT, IT IS, IT ALL IS ALL ONE, UM, LENGTH.
AND WITH THAT LITTLE CIRCLE IN IT, WE CHOSE LANE FOR IT.
UM, IT DOES MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE LMO, UM, AND IT IS NOT A VEHICULAR ACCESS EASEMENT, SO WE CHOSE MEMORIES LANE AND IT, THAT CRITERIA DOES NOT APPLY TO THE APPLICATION.
IT'S NOT BROKEN INTO TWO SEPARATE STREETS.
AND WE ARE JUST ASKING THAT, UM, YOU ALL APPROVE THE NAME FOR THE ACCESS.
UH, ARE THERE, UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL? WHAT, MY NAME IS KAREN BURKEY.
I LIVE IN FOLLEY FIELD, WHICH THIS LANE IS GOING TO CONNECT ONTO AND TWO POINTS.
I HAVE NEIGHBORS HERE AS WELL.
IT'S ALREADY A VERY POPULATED ROAD, HIGH DENSITY TRAFFIC ALREADY THAT TRAFFIC EMPTIES OUT ONTO THE LIGHT AT FOLLEY FIELD IN 2 78.
JUST WANTED THAT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS ADDING TO, MAY I ASK YOU, WHAT IS THE PARTICULAR CONCERN THAT YOU AND THE OTHERS, THIS LANE IS GOING TO CONNECT TO FOLLEY FIELD RIGHT AT TWO POINTS.
AND, AND WOULD YOU HAVE A, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR SOLUTION TO THAT? I MEAN, TO NOT HAVE IT CONNECT IN TWO POINTS, BUT ONE OR THAT'D BE GREAT.
LESS TRAFFIC ON EMPTYING ON THE FOLEY FIELD.
YEAH, MAYBE IT COULD BE A LOOP ROAD, RIGHT? THAT EMPTIES CLOSER TO THE OTHER END INSTEAD OF TOWARD FOLLEY FIELD.
UH, MAY I ASK FO FIELD NEIGHBORHOOD, CAN WE PUT THE, THE MAP BACK UP AGAIN? IS THAT POSSIBLE? WELL, AND SO NICOLE PROBABLY COULD OFFER SOME ASSISTANCE ON THE PLANNING PORTION OF IT, BECAUSE AS I SAID, WE'RE JUST, I AM LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FOR THE STREET NAME.
UM, BUT IF SOMEBODY HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THE, UM, WHERE IT STANDS AT THIS POINT, YOU PROBABLY COULD ANSWER SOME OF THAT.
NOW, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE GET A POINT OVER HERE AND LOWER RIGHT, AND ANOTHER POINT HERE OFF THE CIRCLE, CORRECT? RIGHT.
NOW, WHICH ONE OF THOSE IS YOUR BIGGEST CONCERN? SINCE WE LIVE IN FOL FIELD AND THAT ENTRANCE IS CLOSER TO FOLLEY FIELD, THAT WOULD BE OF MORE CONCERN.
THE CIRCLE ONE IS OF CONCERN TO YOU, RIGHT? YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS OVER HERE.
IS THAT THE ISSUE? I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ENTIRE, UM, PROJECT, SIR, BUT I, I'M, I KNOW I'M BEYOND THAT AT THIS POINT, SINCE THE PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO COMMENT, I'M COMMENTING ON THIS ROAD AND I'M COMMENTING ON THE FACT THAT THAT ROAD IS GOING TO LEAD TO TRAFFIC FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE DUMPING, SHALL I SAY, ENTERING ONTO FOL FIELD ROAD.
NOT TO MENTION THE CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS TO USE FOL FIELD ROAD TO USE THAT ROAD TO BUILD THOSE UNITS.
UH, NICOLE, CAN I CALL ON STAFF, UH, UH, HOW MANY, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT? THIS TIME CHAIR? UM, I DID NOT BRING THE PLANS DOWN HERE WITH ME.
ALL THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS JUST THE NAMING OF THE DRIVE AISLE.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY, IF HE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
UM, BUT ALL WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT IS THE NAMING OF THE DRIVE AISLE.
THE PLAN IS NOT BEING PRESENTED TO YOU YET UNTIL WE ARE READY TO PRESENT IT TO YOU ALL FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES.
UM, AND IT IS NOT READY TO BE A PRETTY GOOD.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
APPRECIATE YOUR STEPPING FORWARD.
SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE A COMMENT, NO OR YES.
I'M VERY NEW TO THE ISLAND AND I JUST RECENTLY WORKED AT ISLAND CLUB, WHICH I BELIEVE IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THAT
I JUST WALKED RECENTLY AND IT IS DANGEROUS
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NOW BECAUSE YOU GET TO, UH, A CROSSWALK AND IT'S LIKE A STOP SIGN.WELL, AM I ALLOWED TO CROSS, OR WHO'S THE STOP SIGN FOR? IT'S RIGHT NOW TO GET OUT ONTO TWO OFF THE HOLLY ONTO 2 78.
IT, IT'S VER, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN WAIT TWO OR THREE LIGHTS TO GET OUT NOW.
AND FROM WHAT I READ A WHILE BACK, THERE'S GONNA BE FOUR, SO THREE STORY BUILDINGS AND THREE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS IN THIS NEW COMPLEX.
UH, IT'S AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING THE ACTUAL, UH, UP AND DOWN OF THE, OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, BUT MERELY THE NAMING OF THE STREET AS THE, WE'VE BEEN REVISED.
AND SO, UH, WE WILL ONLY STICK TODAY TO OUR DISCUSSION ON THE NAMING OF THE STREET, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ALONG THE WAY FROM LEFT TO RIGHT HERE ON THE, UH, NAMING OF THE STREET? UH, PERSONALLY, I THINK IT'S, UH, PREMATURE TO TO NAME THIS STREET UNTIL WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
AND AT THAT TIME, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE SHOULD THEN CONSIDER THE MORE DETAILED IDEA OF NAMING A STREET.
IS THERE A REASON WE'RE NAMING IT AT THIS POINT? UM, SO ONCE THEY SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION FOR THE STREET NAMING, WE HAVE TO BRING IT FORWARD.
ANY COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? LEFT TO RIGHT.
IT'S JUST MY OPINION THAT I, I WOULD PREFER THE COMMISSION WORK ON ISSUES LIKE THIS VERSUS DECIDING ON STREET NAMES.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO.
ONE OF THE FEW THINGS WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO IS TO NAME STREET, BUT I DO THINK THE ISSUE, SORRY, THE BIGGER ISSUE HERE IS THAT THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT IN HOW THE ROAD FITS INTO IT.
AND THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE, UH, VARIOUS AUTHORITIES.
I THINK THAT IS OUR PLAN GOING FORWARD, IS THAT, UM, WE WILL TRY TO COORDINATE THEM TOGETHER.
UH, BUT AGAIN, LIKE ONCE IT GETS SUBMITTED, WE HAVE A TIMEFRAME TO GET THEM BEFORE YOU.
SO WE WILL JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANTS GOING FORWARD TO TRY TO BRING THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, I THINK WITH, UH, ALL THAT IN MIND, I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, PROBABLY, UH, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM EITHER THE PUBLIC OR THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE NAMING OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.
MY NAME IS EDWICK CAMPBELL, AND I HAVE A OBJECTION TO THE NAME OF THE NADINE MANOR BECAUSE THE PROPERTY, UH, WHICH SHE JUST PURCHASED A COUPLE YEARS AGO, HAS BEEN IN MY FAMILY SINCE CIVIL WAR TIME.
AND I THINK THE NAME OF THE SCRIPT SHOULD REFLECT, UH, SOMEONE IN MY FAMILY.
I'M SORRY, HE'S, HE'S BACK ON.
HE'S, HE'S BACK ON NA MANNER NOW.
WELL, WE STARTED THE MEETING AND SHE SAID, UH, THAT'S WHAT THIS MEETING WASN'T FOR, AND SHE JUST TOLD ME THAT SHE GAVE ME ALL THE INFORMATION.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT BEFORE.
SO WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING? UH, CAN YOU GIVE US THE BOTTOM LINE OF WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING? I'M SUGGESTING, UM, A NAME DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NAME IN MIND? NOT AT THIS TIME.
FAIR ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOUR OBJECTION IS NOTED THEN.
UM, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO TAKE AN UP OR DOWN VOTE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS PROPOSAL, UH, MOVES FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR NAME.
I, I, I HAVE A COMMENT BEFORE WE DO THAT.
UM, SINCE, SINCE THE APPLICANT HAS MADE APPLICATION AND THAT NAMING NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE APPLICATION, AND THERE'S A TIMEFRAME, OUR ONLY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO SAY YAY OR NAY ON, ON THE NAMING OF THE STREET AND NOTHING ELSE TO DO WITH THE POTENTIAL PROJECT THAT'LL BE COMING FORWARD AT A LATER DATE, AT WHICH TIME THE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION AND OTHERS WILL HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT, TO DISCUSS EGRESS AND ENTRANCE.
UM, BUT FROM A STANDPOINT OF, OF GIVING THE, THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO FULFILL HIS, HIS REQUEST, UM, OUR ONLY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO SAY YAY OR NAY ON THE NAME.
WE HAVE A PUBLIC, ONE MORE COMMENT.
YOU CHANGE YOUR NAME FROM A COURT TO ME, MEANS YOU COMMIT ONE ENTRANCE AND YOU GO OUT, THAT SAME EXIT IS THE SAME STREET.
YOU CHANGE IT TO LANE, THEN IT OPENS UP.
IF DIFFERENT ENTRANCE IS AN EXIT, THEN THAT'S MY THINKING, IS I BEING CORRECT? BUT IF IT'S A COURT, IT COMES IN, IT GOES OUT THE SAME.
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YEAH, A LANE THEN CHANGES THE WHOLE STRUCTURE.AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THAT WAS MY, SO A COURT IS A STREET THAT TERMINATES IN A CUL-DE-SAC, ANDS NOT LONGER THAN A THOUSAND FEET, IS WHAT THE LMO STATES.
UM, IN OTHER WORDS, WE, WE ALSO HAVE TO DISCUSS WHETHER IT'S A LANE OR A COURT, UH, IN IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD AS A LANE.
BECAUSE WE HAVE, IT MAY HAVE TWO ENTRANCES.
SO WE HAVE THE, THE ALLEY AVENUE, BOULEVARD CIRCLE COURT EXTENSION, AND PARKWAY HAS SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO, BUT DRIVE LANE, PLACE, ROAD, STREET OR WAY CAN BE USED ON ANY STREET THAT WE ARE NAMING.
AS LONG AS IT'S NOT, UM, IT DOES NOT MEET ONE OF THOSE CRITERIA.
THERE IS NO, I ASK A, UH, QUESTION.
IF IT, IN THE POINT IN TIME, IN THE FUTURE, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR, BUT A POINT IN TIME IN THE FUTURE THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT COMES BEFORE OF VARIOUS ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITIES AND THERE ARE CHANGES, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO BACK AND RENAME THE STREET AFTERWARDS IF, IF COURT BECOMES MORE, FOR EXAMPLE, APPROPRIATE THAN LANE, COULD IT BE REVISITED? YES.
UH, I MEAN THERE LIKE WE, UNTIL IT IS, UM, PLATTED AND WE ASSIGN ADDRESSES, WE CAN CHANGE IT.
IT, THIS HELPS US LIKE IN THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO STOP CALLING IT 15 WIMBLE IN COURT, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY NOT WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE ACCESSED FROM.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS IN OUR PERMITTING PROCESS FOR IT TO HAVE A, ANOTHER ADDRESS TO USE.
UM, AND SO THAT FOLLOWING IT THROUGH THE PROCESS, IT DOESN'T GET CONTINUED TO BE CALLED 15 WIMBLE COURT.
SO, SO BASICALLY NO MATTER WHAT WIMBLEDON COURT'S GOING AWAY, AND AS WE GO THROUGH, AS THE APPLICANT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THIS AND THEN THE BUILDING PERMIT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT NEEDS TO BE COINCIDED WITH WHAT THE ACTUAL NAME'S GOING TO BE, CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE, BUT, UM, COULD YOU ALL VOTE TO NOT APPROVE IT OR HOLD IT OVER UNTIL WE CAN BRING IT FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT? UM, YES.
THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COMMENT OR BU COURT WILL, WILL NOT GO AWAY.
THE ADDRESS OF 15 LIMBED IN COURT WILL NOT BE USED ANYMORE.
THANKS FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
WITH ALL OF THIS IN MIND, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO NAME THIS THING MEMORIES LANE.
AND THAT, UH, AFTER THE DISCUSSION, UH, IF WE FIND THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE ONE ENTRANCE TO THIS, UH, POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT, THEN IT WILL BE CORRECTED AS A COURT OR SOME OTHER ONE ENTRANCE, UH, KIND OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT ROAD.
UM, DO, ARE THERE, IS THERE A MOTION? I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION AT THIS POINT.
MR. ALFRED MOVES THAT WE ADOPTED THAT WE, WE APPROVE THIS MEMORY LANE MEMORIES.
ALL IN FAVOR OF SHOW, RAISE OF HAND.
WE HAVE ONE OPPOSITE, TWO OPPOSITIONS, UH, MR. UH, O'NEILL, MR. RIENZO, UH, ARE NOT, UH, VOTING IN FAVOR NOW? THE MOTION DOES PASS.
WE HAVE, UH, ONE MORE, UH, REQUEST FROM, UH, IT'S UH, S T DV 0 0 2 4 0 3, UH, 2022.
REQUEST FROM OCTAVIA ROMAN GONZALEZ, OWNER OF RS 10 0 0 3 0 0 0 1 69 0 0 0 TO NAME A, UH, NEW DRIVEWAY LOCATED AT 24, UH, ORIGIN LANE.
UH, THERE ARE NO OTHER AFFECTED PARCELS AS PRESENTED AGAIN BY FIRE AND RESCUE STAFF ARMADILLO TRACE ARMADILLO.
UM, SO THEY, UH, HAD SUBMITTED SIX DIFFERENT NAMES.
THEY ALL HAD CONFLICT EXCEPT FOR ARMADILLO.
UH, THIS IS THE PARCEL THAT IS, UH, WILL HAVE THE ACCESS TO NEW HOMES, UH, BASED ON THE ZONING, THE LOT CAN ACCOMMODATE UP TO SIX DWELLING UNITS.
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A HOME ON THE LOT AT THIS TIME, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO ADD ADDITIONAL HOMES.COULD YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHERE ON THE ISLAND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? UM, SURE.
IT'S OFF GUMTREE, REALLY? SO, YEAH, I'VE, UH, SO THIS IS RIGHT AT ALMOST THE INTERSECTION OF SQUIRE, POPE AND GUMTREE ROAD.
AND THEN THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THEY ARE ADDING THREE ADDITIONAL HOMES TO THE SIDE OF THE LOT THAT WILL GET THE STREET NAME.
SO AGAIN, THE STREET NAME IS NOT DUPLICATED IN THE TOWN OR THE COUNTY.
IT'S NOT PHONETICALLY SIMILAR TO ANY EXISTING STREET NAME OR EASEMENT.
IT'S NOT LIKELY TO BE CONFUSED WITH AN EXISTING STREET NAME OR EASEMENT.
UM, IT IS SIMPLE, LOGICAL, AND EASY TO READ AND PRONOUNCE.
IT IS CLEAR AND BRIEF, AND IT'S NOT FRIVOLOUS OR COMPLICATED.
DOES NOT HAVE FRIVOLOUS OR COMPLICATED WORDS OR UNCONVENTIONAL SPELLING.
UM, THE PROPOSED STREET NAME ARMADILLO TRACE WAS SELECTED BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS AN A ANIMAL THAT IS PREVALENT ON THE ISLAND.
UH, ARMADILLO TRACE IS THE ONLY STREET THAT PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES.
IT'S VERY, THE SCREEN'S VERY TOUCHY.
UM, IT DOES NOT MAKE A RIGHT ANGLE TURN.
UH, THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO THE APPLICATION BECAUSE IT IS NOT, UM, WE DID NOT CHOOSE ANY OF THOSE.
UH, WE WENT WITH, EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT, IT IS A DRIVEWAY, BUT WE ARE NAMING IT BECAUSE WE NEED ADDRESSES TO GIVE IT.
UM, AND IN ADDITION, UM, IN OUR ADDRESSING GUIDELINES, UM, ONCE THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO HOMES OFF OF A DRIVEWAY, IT BECOMES HARD FOR FIRE RESCUE TO, UH, DETERMINE THE MULTIPLE ADDRESSES THAT ARE OFF OF THAT.
UM, SO ONCE THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO HOMES, WE ASK TO NAME THE DRIVEWAY AS WE WOULD IN EASEMENT.
UM, IT'S NOT BROKEN INTO TWO SEPARATE STREETS, AND, UM, AGAIN, WE JUST ASK THAT, UH, IT MEETS THE CRITERIA THAT IS SET UP IN THE LMO AND WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
ARE THERE PUBLIC COMMENTS, SIR? YES.
I'M REPRESENTING, OR LANE, UM, ON ONE OF THE TENANTS THAT LIVES THERE.
MY NAME IS ANTHONY JACKSON AND, UM, I NOTICED A CHANGE ON THIS STREET NAME THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JUST NOW, AND I'M TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF MY PROPERTY VERSUS THE NEW STREET NAME.
AND WHAT IT IS, MY PROPERTY IS THE, I, THERE'S A EASEMENT TO GET TO MY PROPERTY THROUGH ORANGE LANE.
AND IF YOU SEE WHERE THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNED, IT'S GOING TO SHOW THAT HE'S GONNA HAVE A PIECE HERE THAT I'M GONNA BE BESIDE HIM.
WHAT I'M QUESTIONING ABOUT IS THAT GONNA CHANGE MY NAME, WHICH IS ORIGINAL NAME ORIGIN LANE FROM THE FAMILY MEMBERS A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
OKAY? YOU HAD THIS LAND FOR YEARS AND THIS GUY JUST GOT PIECE OF IT, BUT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT 34 OF THE PART ON THE LEFT SIDE AS YOU APPROACHING THIS NEW NAME, HE'S GOT BROUGHT UP HERE.
THE, THE ACCESS WILL ONLY, IT WILL NAME THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE.
SO LIKE ORANGE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH PAST THEIR PROPERTY TO THE LOT BACK THERE.
SO WHEN, SO LIKE THESE HOMES, THIS HOME, THIS HOME, THIS HOME AND THAT HOME, THE FOUR HOMES THAT ARE OFF OF THAT DRIVEWAY WILL GET THE ARMADILLO TRACE, BUT ANYTHING THAT IS FACING ORANGE WILL STAY AS ORANGE.
RIGHT? WHAT ABOUT 34 28? THAT, THAT, THAT EASEMENT THAT GOES ACROSS THAT IT'S RIGHT HERE.
LIKE ANY ONE'S BEEN THERE FOR 25 YEARS WILL STAY ORANGE.
EVEN THOUGH HE, WE, THERE'S AN EASEMENT CROSS THIS PROPERTY TO GET TO.
YES, BECAUSE IT'S THE INTERSECTION.
SO LIKE THAT EASEMENT THAT IS ORANGE RIGHT NOW, THAT CONTINUES BACK WILL STAY ORANGE.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THIS IS, THAT'S GONNA BE VERY CONFUSING TO ME BECAUSE WHAT CALL ORANGE HERE, RIGHT? WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PACKAGING, WHERE MANO AND WHEN THEY PUT A SIGN UP AT THIS POINT HERE, IT WILL PROBABLY GO RIGHT AT THIS INTERSECTION RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT DRIVEWAY, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT SECTION IS AT.
I CAN'T REALLY SEE WHAT IT IS.
IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING WHEN YOU GET DOWN ORANGE LANE WHERE IT, WHERE IT BENDS, IF YOU FAMILIAR WITH YOUR PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS, IS YOUR WHERE ACTUALLY ON THE LEFT OF THAT, WHERE YOU PIN AT HERE? I WANNA SAY SOMEWHERE THAT, I CAN'T THINK THE WORD.
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YEAH.AND SO FROM HERE ON, IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARMAD DI YES.
THE WAY IT GOES TO THE LEFT, THAT CURB, WILL THAT NAME CHANGE? NO, NO, NOT SO HE HAS TO, AS PART OF HIS PROJECT, HE HAS TO IMPROVE HIS, UM, ACCESS AND MAKE IT 20 FEET WIDE IN AN ALL-WEATHER DRIVING SO SURFACE.
SO IT WILL BECOME, IT WILL LOOK LIKE A ROAD AT THAT POINT, AND THERE WILL BE A STREET SIGN THAT GOES AT THE INTERSECTION OF ORANGE.
AND IT'S, THIS IS, IS THIS NOW A PAVED ROAD HERE? ORANGE? NO, THERE ROAD.
IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT SAYS, BUT IT SAYS HERE, THIS IS, UH, TO BE REPLACED BY AN ALL WEATHER.
THEY JUST HAVE TO MAKE IT AN ALL WEATHER DRIVING SURFACE.
SO LIKE THEY WILL MAKE THAT SECTION TO BE ALL WEATHER DRIVING SURFACE.
WHO'S THEY? THE PERSON THAT IS, UM, IMPROVING THAT PARCEL.
SO, SO THIS WILL BE IMPROVED HERE ALL THE WAY UP, ALL THE WAY TO GUMTREE.
IT'S ONLY IMPROVED ON THEIR PARCEL.
AND SO THIS IS THE PART THAT WILL BE ARMADILLO OVER HERE? CORRECT.
SO YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT PIECE THAT, SO WELL AS ON AN ACCESS EASEMENT, WHICH THAT ORIGIN IS, UM, TYPICALLY EACH PART OF THE EASEMENT IS OWNED BY AN INDIVIDUAL.
SO THE, THIS PARCEL GOES ACROSS WHAT IS ORIGIN LAYING RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO AS PART OF THEM PUTTING THE HOME ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEY WILL IMPROVE AND MAINTAIN THEIR ACCESS THAT IS ORANGE AND THEN GOES TO ARMADILLO.
SO PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON ORANGE, IF I WAS IN SET UP AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN THE ACCESS THAT HE'S GONNA DO, YEAH.
THAT ACCESS IT WILL BE MAINTAINED.
IT, IT PROVIDES ACCESS TO HOMES THAT ARE BEYOND ARMADILLO.
SO LIKE THAT HOMEOWNER CANNOT TAKE AWAY THE ACCESS THAT IS ALREADY THERE.
BUT I'M TALKING IN FUTURE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THEIR ACCESS, THERE'S POT AND ALL THAT STUFF, WE'LL MAKE SURE.
I MEAN THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT AMONGST THEMSELVES.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS JUST, IS THERE A FIRE HYING PARAGRAPH HERE? UH, YES.
WE RECENTLY PUT ONE DOWN A LITTLE WAYS ON ORANGE.
SO IT IS THAT, UM, LIKE TOWARDS GUMTREE? TOWARDS GUMTREE? MM-HMM.
IT'S ABOUT IN THE, LIKE WILL IT BE WITHIN THE HUNDRED A THOUSAND FEET? IT'S REQUIREMENTS.
IT'LL BE WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THE END OF THIS ARMADILLO WAY.
MR. IS IT MR. JACKSON, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
MR. JACKSON, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEING NAMED? YES, SIR.
I'M ASKING THAT YOU GUYS DON'T APPROVE THIS NAME.
WE WANT TO KEEP IT ORANGE LANE.
IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR A HUNDRED YEARS AND WE, THE PEOPLE THAT'S MOVING IN, WE FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO STAY UP UNDER THAT NAME IF THEY WANT TO LIVE THERE.
THE, THE PROBLEM IS THAT I DON'T HAVE ORIGIN LANE ADDRESSES TO GIVE THEM.
AND IN ADDITION, BY THE ADDRESSING STANDARDS, ONCE YOU COME OFF ORIGIN, ALL FOUR OF THOSE HOUSES BACK THERE CANNOT BE ORIGIN.
WE WILL NOT, IT CREATES A, UM, A DIFFICULTY FOR US THAT WHEN ONCE WE PASS THAT DRIVEWAY MM-HMM.
AND THEN I, I UNDERSTAND WE'VE HAD THIS PROBLEM WITH FIRE THORN WAY DOWN IN SOUTH FOREST BEACH NOT TOO LONG AGO.
LET ME ASK YOU, UM, IF, IF IT WERE, IF WE'RE, COULD IT BE CALLED ORANGE COURT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OFF OF ORANGE? UM, I WAS GETTING READY TO GET TO GO AHEAD.
SO I, I MEAN, TYPICALLY THE LANDOWNER IS WHO PROPOSES THE NAMES, RIGHT? UM, SO I THINK THAT WE COULD GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND ASK THEM, BUT LIKE TYPICALLY WHOEVER OWNS THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IS WHO SUBMITS FOR THE NAME, AND THESE WERE THE NAMES THAT THEY CHOSE.
SO MR, HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE LANDOWNER? SEE IF YOU WOULD DO ORANGE COR? UM, NO, WE DON'T TALK LIKE THAT.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING BACK AND FORTH OVER THAT.
SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING WE DO GO,
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IF ANYTHING WE SUBMIT THAT OR ITS COURT, SINCE IT'S IN THAT CIRCLE BACK THERE, AND I'M SURE WE CAN COME UP WITH NUMBERS FROM ONE THROUGH 40.IT'S ONLY GONNA BE FOUR HOUSES BACK THERE, RIGHT? UH, WE ARE 28, 34, 36.
HE'S PLOW FOR 27, WHICH IS A CIRCLE BACK THERE.
WE'VE ARGUED ABOUT THE FIRES DEPARTMENT COMING IN AND MAKING A U-TURN.
BUT, UH, APPARENTLY IT HASN'T PASSED BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING ALL THESE FENCES UP EVERYWHERE AND IT'S CREATED THE ISSUE BACK THERE, YOU KNOW.
SO WE COMING WITH A NEW NAME THAT'S GOING TO INTERRUPT ME GETTING UPS, UH, YOU KNOW, PACKAGES CAUSE THEY USED TO COMING DOWN ORANGE LANE WHEN THEY SPOT THIS SIGN HERE BEFORE YOU GET TO MY HOUSE, I SEE IT'S END.
THEY GONNA CHANGE THE NAME CHANGES SO THEY THINK I'M NOT BACK THERE BECAUSE IT'S A NEW NAME.
THAT WAY THEY, JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE TALKING THIS.
IS THIS THERE? NOW A PART OF IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS THAT THE HOME THAT EXISTING IS, IT SAYS EXISTING MOBILE HOME RIGHT WHERE YOUR PEN IS.
BUT IS WHAT IS HIS ADDRESS NOW THAT IT'S AN ORANGE LANE ADDRESS RIGHT NOW? UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONLY HOME THERE.
SO, BUT THEY WILL BE CHANGED ONCE THAT DRIVE GOES IN AND THE ADDITIONAL HOMES GO IN, IT FACES THE NEW ROAD, SO IT WOULD GET ITS ADDRESS CHANGED TO THE NEW NAME.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE, LIKE WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS LIKE, IT, IT ORIGIN LIKE IT TURNS AND IT CONTINUES BACK TO THOSE HOMES THAT ARE PAST THE LOT, RIGHT? YEP.
IS IT GONNA CAUSE ANY SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS IF WE WERE TO GO BACK TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER AND ASK HIM IF THE ORANGE COURT WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE NAME? I CAN CERTAINLY TRY.
UM, I THINK THE, UH, FEELING OF THE COMMISSION OF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT, UH, WOULD FIRE AND RESCUE GO BACK TO THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, MR. UH, GONZALEZ AND SAY, UH, UH, THE COMMISSION, UH, IS, UH, WOULD, WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER, UH, ORANGE COURT AND UH, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD DO IS THROUGH FIRE AND RESCUE? YES.
I, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PRESERVE SOME HIS HISTORY AND IF WE CAN GET AWAY WITH A COURT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN, THEN IT, IT MEETS THAT NEED, SO.
I THINK, UH, CAN I GET A MOTION FROM, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SECOND, MR. CAMPBELL IS THERE SECOND MR. ALFRED SECONDS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING FIRE AND RESCUE TO GO BACK, UH, TO MR. GONZALEZ AND ASK, YOU KNOW, IN A NEIGHBORLY WAY THAT, UH, SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE ORIGIN, IT HAS A HISTORY ON THE ISLAND THAT MAYBE WE COULD, UH, MAKE THIS ORANGE COURT.
AND I THINK IT SOUNDS A LOT BETTER THAN ARMADILLO ANYWAY.
KAREN, IN FAVOR OF, UH, HAVING FIRE AND RESCUE GO BACK TO MR. GONZALEZ.
FRANK, YOU FOR SPEAKING UP, SIR? ALL RIGHT.
WHAT DO WE HAVE NEXT ON THE AGENDA? COMMISSION BUSINESS, UH, COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS? WE HAVE A, UH, MR. COLLET IS NO LONGER ON THE LMO COMMITTEE, AND SO WE HAVE AN OPENING ON THE LMO COMMITTEE AND, UH, RATHER THAN JUST, UH, CALL SOMEBODY UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND ASK YOU, IS THERE ANYBODY WANT TO VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THE LMO COMMITTEE REPLACING MR. COLLET? DO THEY HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS? I'M ALREADY ON AS WELL.
THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW ARE MR. PERRY'S CHAIR.
MR. DSO IS VICE CHAIR MR. SEA BOLTS ON THERE AND I'M EX OFFICIO.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD BE, UH, WANT TO BE ON LMO OR DO YOU WANT TO ENTER MY LOTTERY EVERETTE LOTTERY WHERE I CALL YOU UP AND ASK YOU DIRECTLY? I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT STANDS FOR.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA NOBODY VOLUNTEERING.
THEN YOU'RE GONNA GET A PHONE CALL AND IF I CATCH A DODGE IN MY PHONE CALLS, ALL RIGHT.
I WILL TAKE THAT UP HERE IN THE NEXT WEEK.
UH, ARE THERE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? C I P, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GO.
UH, LMO, UH, MR. PERRY, ANYTHING THERE? UH, A RULES OF PROCEDURE, MR. ALFRED? ANYTHING NEW THERE? NO.
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UH, WE, UH, THE ROBERT TRENT JONES DRIVING RANGE NET HEIGHT INTERPRETATION, SEAN IS BACK BEFORE US.UH, GOSH, I THOUGHT LMO MATT, LEAVE ME OUT.
APPARENTLY I HAVE NO VOLUNTEERS.
SO, UH, SEAN COLE, HAPPY TO BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU MY DETERMINATION RELATED TO ROBERT TRENT JONES DRIVING RANGE.
UM, ACTIVITY AT THAT RANGE WAS INTENSIFIED WITH THE TOP TRACER TECHNOLOGY AND, UM, AND THAT ELEMENT THAT WAS ADDED, UH, TO INCREASE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, BALLS THAT WERE LEAVING THE DRIVING RANGE AND IMPACTING SOME PROPERTIES THAT NEIGHBOR, THE DRIVING RANGE.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING OVER A PERIOD OF TIME TO COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS.
THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, REALLY CRAZY NAT TREATMENTS.
UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME VEGETATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE MADE.
AND THEN, UM, SOME OF THE, THE ERR BALLS KEPT, CAN'T BELIEVE THE DRIVING RANGE.
WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UM, AN OPERATOR AND TALKED ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, INCLUDING LOW FLAW, UH, LOW FLIGHT BALLS.
UM, AND AT THE TIME OF THE MEETING, WE SAID, WELL, THERE'S A 75 FOOT HEIGHT RESTRICTION IN THE PD ONE DISTRICT, AND YOU COULD MAYBE GO TO THE BZA AND GO AND ASK FOR VARIANCE.
WELL, WE REVIEWED DMO A LITTLE MORE DEEPLY.
THE, UH, THE DRIVING RANGE AT C PINES, UM, AT HARBORTOWN HAS, UH, HAS BEEN BRY AND DES SHAMBO
UM, AND SO UNDER SECTION SIXTEEN TEN ONE OH TWO C TWO A, NOT TO GET TOO TECHNICAL OF THE LMO, UM, I HAVE THE AUTHORITY, UM, UM, TO DETERMINE THAT CERTAIN FACILITIES DO THEIR OPERATION, INTRINSIC FUNCTIONAL NATURE, THAT THEY CAN EXCEED THAT HEIGHT LIMIT.
SO WE, WE, AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER OPERATIONS INCLUDING, UM, THE HARBORTOWN DRIVING RANGE, AND I'VE AUTHORIZED, UM, UP TO 130 FEET.
THAT'S WHAT IT IS THERE FOR THE OPERATOR TO EXTEND POLES.
UH, WE'VE CONVEYED THAT INFORMATION TO THE OWNER AND OPERATOR, AND I'M, UM, JUST SHARING IT WITH PLANNING COMMISSION TO LET YOU KNOW OF MY ACTION.
UM, AND THE, AND THE MESSAGE THAT WAS DELIVERED TO HELP MITIGATE THAT CONFLICT WITH WE NEIGHBORS.
SO HOW FAR, HOW HIGH WAS IT AND HOW FAR ARE YOU GONNA GO? SO THEY HAD ELEVATED 'EM, UM, TO THE SEVEN 70 OR 75 FEET MAXIMUM.
THEY, THEY WERE A LITTLE LOWER.
THEY ADDED ANOTHER PANEL, I THINK 20 ISH FEET THROUGH PREVIOUS ACTION.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT MITIGATING, IT'S UP FRONT.
SO HOW HIGH ARE YOU? I SAID I WOULD BRING MY FATHER-IN-LAW WHO'S NOT VERY GOOD GOLFER, AND IF ANYONE COULD HIT IT OVER THE FENCE, IT WOULD BE HIM.
HOW HIGH ARE WE GOING TO THAT'S, THEY COULD GO UP TO 130 FEET.
WE'VE LET THEM KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA TAKE ACTION TO ELEVATE TO AROUND A HUNDRED FEET.
I WOULD, UH, LIKE A FULL STAFF REPORT ON WHAT GOLF BALLS ARE OUTSIDE THE NET.
I WANT TO KNOW THE BRAND NAME AND THE LITTLE NUMBER ON IT.
UM, THAT'S PROBABLY AN EASY THING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AND THAT THE, UH, ADJACENT NEIGHBORS LET US KNOW HOW MANY BALLS.
AND THE PROV ONES, OR THE WHAT? I WANT KNOW THE SPECIFIC NAMES.
ALL THE GOLF BALLS YOU WANNA KNOW.
IT'LL BE A CALLAWAY WITH A RED DOT ON IT.
I'M SURE THEY'RE ALL LEGAL LEGAL BALLS.
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE ONE LAST ITEM, A QUARTERLY REPORT, UH, UH, MISSY, UH, UH, LU, PLEASE WELCOME BACK.
UM, THE QUARTERLY REPORT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.
IT'S FOR THE PERIOD BETWEEN JULY AND SEPTEMBER.
UM, IN THAT TIMELINE, UM, YOU HAD A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE BEACH MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU BY JEFF BUCKALOO, THE TOWN ENGINEER.
UM, DURING THIS TIME, UM, STAFF'S REVIEWING, UM, TWO SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS.
THEY'RE BOTH ON JONESVILLE ROAD.
ONE IS A PROPOSED 25 LOT, UM, SUBDIVISION CALLED TIDELANDS, AND THE OTHERS THAT PROPOSED 22 LOT SUBDIVISION CALLED TWIN OAKS.
ALSO, UM, YOU HAD SEVERAL COMMITTEES THAT HAVE MET THE RULES AND PROCEDURE COMMITTEE, UM, AMENDED YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURE AND WE'RE DOWN TO ONE, ONE MEETING PER MONTH.
UM, ALSO THE LMO COMMITTEE MET AND, AND WILL BE MEETING, UM, ON NOVEMBER 1ST TO, UH, REVIEW THE TWO, UH, PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT WERE REVIEWED BACK ON SEPTEMBER ONE.
UM, SO THEY'RE COMING BACK BEFORE THE LMO COMMITTEE.
UM, THE, THE GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE HAS MET SEVERAL TIMES WITHIN THIS TIME PERIOD.
UM, AND THEN WE INCLUDED A LINK FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UM, PROJECT UPDATES TO GO TO, UM, OUR C I P DASHBOARD ON THE WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN GET THE MOST CURRENT UP TO DATE INFORMATION ON THE STATUS OF C I P PROJECTS.
UM, MAY I ASK KAREN OR, OR MISSY
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TO, UH, CHECK WITH COUNSEL? IT, ITS, FIND OUT IF, IF I'M ALLOWED TO APPOINT MYSELF TO THE LMO COMMITTEE.I'M EX OFFICIO NOW, BUT SINCE WE HAVE A VACANCY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE ON THAT.
WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE LET ME KNOW? CAN THAT BE DONE? OKAY, THANK YOU.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER, UH, ISSUES BEFORE US, OR, UH, I, I BELIEVE WE'VE REACHED A TIME FOR ADJOURNMENT.