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FOUR O'CLOCK MEETING WHEN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FIRST.
SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY VERY HARD TO COME OUT TO START AT FIVE.
FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, I THINK WE CAN GO OVER AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE'LL PLAN ON COMING OUT AT FIVE FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT WONDERING WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND THEN WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND JUST ANNOUNCED, YOU WILL CALL THIS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 11TH TOWN COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
PRAY FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR US, NOT JUST FOR US, BUT ALL THE PEOPLE IN OUR TOWN.
MY, MY PRAYERS THAT YOU GIVE STRENGTH TO THE PEOPLE IN SOUTH FLORIDA THAT WERE TOTALLY DEVASTATED, LOST THEIR HOMES, THEIR LOVED ONES, THEIR BOATS, THEIR BUSINESSES, EVERYTHING.
SO PLEASE WORK IN THEIR HEARTS AND THE HEARTS OF EVERYONE TO HELP THEM GET THROUGH THIS TIME OF CRISIS.
[IV. Adoption of the Agenda]
THE AGENDA CHANGES.[V. Executive Session]
SESSIONS IN OUR MEETINGS AFFECTED EARLIER.UM, SO WITH THERE MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR FOUR ITEMS. UM, FOYA ACT 34 72 AND THAT'S CONTRACTUAL MATTERS RELATING TO MEN.
MUNICIPAL JUDGE, CONTRACT FOYA ACT 34 70 A TWO, WHICH IS REGARDING CONTRACTUAL MATTERS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DEDICATION.
NAMING TOWN PROPERTY FOYA 34 78 1, WHICH IS PERSONNEL MATTERS REGARDING TOWN COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS, GEORGE COMMISSION COMMITTEE, AND FO 34 70 INTO CONSIDERATION OF WALL OF HONOR NOMINEES.
DISCUSSION, THERE WILL BE ACTION AS YOU ALL FAVOR STATE.
[VI. Action from Executive Session]
OF SESSION.HONOR FAVOR STATEMENT, SAYING HI.
IS THERE A MOTION FOLLOWING FOR ANOTHER THREE? SO MOVING
[VII. Adoption of the Minutes]
THE, OKAY.[VIII. Presentations, Celebrations and Recognitions]
WHO DO WE HAVE? YOU HAVE TO HAVE LILY.NOW I KNOW YOUR BROTHER'S HERE.
HE THE SCHOOL COUNSELOR AT RED CEDAR.
UM, HER CHARACTER ED WORDS WERE FRIEND, FRIENDSHIP AND KINDNESS.
CORLEY, THE PRINCIPAL, AND, UH, MS. KANEY, HER TEACHER HERE TODAY.
AND ALSO EVERYONE HERE, YOU, THIS IS WHAT HER TEACHER SAID ABOUT HER.
OUR TEAM HAS CHOSEN LILY KAMAN AS OUR STUDENT OF THE MONTH FOR FRIENDSHIP AND KINDNESS AND JUST THE COUPLE SHORT WEEKS OF SCHOOL.
IT'S OBVIOUS THAT LILY IS A FRIEND TO EVERYONE.
SHE WILL WORK WITH ANYONE AND DO SO WITH A POSITIVE ATTITUDE.
LILY HAS A KIND EMPATHIC HEART.
SHE MAY NOT WANT THIS PART SHARED, BUT IF SHE HAS CHOSEN WE CAN FIND A WAY TO GET THE SAME MESSAGE ACROSS BECAUSE ONE DAY SHE HANDED
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ME A NOTE AND THE NOTE READ THAT SHE THOUGHT A STUDENT LOOKED LONELY AND WAS WONDERING WHAT WE COULD DO TO HELP HIM.THIS STUDENT IS NEW TO HER SCHOOL AND HADN'T REALLY MADE FRIENDS YET.
I TALKED WITH LILY, LILY TO SEE HER THOUGHTS AND SHE ASKED IF IT WOULD BE OKAY TO SWITCH LUNCH TABLES SO SHE COULD SIT BY HIM AND TALK WITH HIM.
THAT WAS PRETTY AWESOME BECAUSE NOT MANY FOURTH GRADERS WOULD LEAVE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH FRIENDS TO MAKE A PERSON THEY BARELY KNOW FEEL BETTER.
IN THE ROOM ARE BECAUSE THEY LOVE SEEING YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE THINKING THAT PROGRESSIVELY THAT JUST TO HELP OTHERS.
SHE IS MY NEIGHBOR, UM, DID NOT KNOW WHO WAS GONNA BE HERE TONIGHT, SO IT WAS QUITE A SHOCK.
SO LILY, AS THEY SAID, AND WE HAVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BACK THERE, WE HAVE MRS. CRUTCHFIELD BACK THERE, SHE'S WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT YEARS AGO.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO.
AND I THINK WE'RE THE ONLY COUNCIL THAT DOES THIS.
I THINK WE'RE THE ONLY COUNCIL THAT HIGHLIGHTS OUR KIDS.
UM, BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU WERE PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU
AND TO DO SIMPLE THINGS MEAN SOMETHING.
SOMEBODY SITTING AT A TABLE BY THEMSELVES, THAT MEANS SOMETHING THAT TEACHES YOU AS YOU GROW OLDER TO KEEP THINKING ABOUT THAT WHEREVER YOU GO.
SO WE HAVE 20 LOTS OF THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS IN OUR DISTRICT.
HALF OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS IN LONDON.
SO EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL NOMINATES SOMEONE.
ALL THOSE NOMINATIONS GO INTO THE CLUSTER.
SO YOU ARE PICKED FROM MICHAEL C. RILEY AND RED CEDAR AND VILLE AND BLUFFTON MIDDLE AND BLUFFTON HIGH AND MAY RIVER HIGH.
IT'S A LOT OF KIDS OLDER THAN YOU.
SO YOU GOT THIS FROM OUR WHOLE CLUSTER.
SO YOU HAVE A GREAT CERTIFICATE THAT WILL GET FRAMED.
Y'ALL GET FRAMED AND YOU HAVE COIN THAT'S VERY SPECIAL CUZ WE DON'T GIVE IT OUT.
YOU CAN KEEP IT OR USE IT AS YOU SEE FIT.
CORLEY OUR FAVORITE PRINCIPAL, SO YOU'RE GREAT.
THEY DON'T SEE ANY OTHER PRINCIPALS OUT THERE
SITUATIONAL I COME GET CLOSER, WE GET A PICTURE.
WE HAVE NATIONAL YOUTH SUBSTANCE PREVENTION, SUBSTANCE YOUTH SUBSTANCE, NATIONAL YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION MONTH PROCLAMATION.
AND WE HAVE WHO IS COMING? OH, COME ON.
NOVIN SENT YOUR NAME, BUT I TOLD YOU.
AND WHERE DO YOU GO TO SCHOOL? HILTON HAD CHRISTIAN ACADEMY, NOLTON CHRISTIAN ACADEMY.
SHE IS WITH LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH ARE LACKY.
THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING ALL THE SCHOOLS.
WHEREAS DURING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, NATIONAL OBSERVANCE SPONSORED BY THE WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF THE NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL POLICY IS DEDICATED TO YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION.
WHEREAS DURING NATIONAL YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION MONTH, WE REAFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT TO HELPING OUR YOUTH LEAD HEALTHY, FULFILLING LIVES.
WHEREAS OD O N DCP BACKGROUND FOR THE NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL POLICY IS COMMITTED TO PREVENTING SUBSTANCE USE AMONG OUR NATION'S YOUTH, INCLUDING ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS, ILLICIT DRUGS, AND MISUSED PRESCRIPTION.
WHEREAS THROUGH THE O N DCP P, THE DRUG FREE COMMUNITY SUPPORT PROGRAM HELPS EQUIP COMMUNITY COALITIONS TO PREVENT AND REDUCE YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
WHEREAS THE LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH, A DFC GRANT RECIPIENT AWARDED BY O D E C P IS COMMITTED TO PREVENTING SUBSTANCE USE AMONG OUR YOUTH, INCLUDING ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS, ILLICIT DRUGS, AND MISUSE PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS BY BRINGING TOGETHER REPRESENTATION FROM ALL SECTORS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE LOCAL SOLUTION TO PREVENTING AND REDUCING YOUTH'S SUBSTANCE USE AND RELATED RISK BEHAVIORS.
WHEREAS WE JOIN THE LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH IN A CALL TO PARENTS, CAREGIVERS, EDUCATORS, YOUTH
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SERVING ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESSES, HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS, MEDIA LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS, FAKE AND COMMUNITY LEADERS, EVERYONE IN THIS REGION, UM, TO TAKE ACTIONS AND CLEAR MESSAGES ABOUT THE HEALTH, LEGAL AND SOCIAL CONSEQUENCES OF YOUTH, ALCOHOL AND OTHER DRUG USE.WE SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH COALITION AND RAISING THE AWARENESS.
SO THEREFORE I LEASE ULKA MAYOR BLUFFTON ALONG THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE BUREAU RAPID CLAIM, THE MONTH OF OCTOBER TO BE YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION MONTH IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? UM, SURE.
IS SHE GOOD? YEAH, SHE'S GOOD.
I NEVER SPOKEN ON THE MICROPHONE, SO IF THIS IS TOO LOUD, I'M SO SORRY.
I SERVE AS THE YOUTH REPRESENTATIVE, UM, TO THE LOW COUNTRY LINES FOR HEALTH YOUTH COMMUNITY BOARD.
UM, I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF TEENS FOR HEALTH YOUTH AT CHRISTIAN ACADEMY AND INITIATIVE OF THE COALITION ON BEHALF OF LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTH YOUTH AND TEENS FOR HEALTH YOUTH.
I'M HONORED TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MAYOR SOCA, THE TOWN COUNCIL AND THE BLESSED PD FOR THE ABUNDANT SUPPORT OVER THE PAST 12 YEARS.
NOW ON OUR SECOND FIVE YEAR DRUG FREE COMMUNITY SUPPORT PROGRAM GRANT CYCLE.
IN HAVING THE HONOR OF BEING THE ONLY COMMUNITY BASED PREVENTION COALITION TO RECEIVE THIS GRANT IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
THIS PROCLAMATION SUPPORTS OUR VISION OF UNITING THE COMMUNITY TO PROMOTE POSITIVE CHOICES IN HEALTHY LIFESTYLES.
DOES NATIONAL YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION MONTH OCTOBER HOLDS A SPECIAL PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT REPRESENTS A COMMON GOAL TO ENCOURAGE HEALTH YOUTH DEVELOPMENT? THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCLAMATION FOR ISSUING THIS PROCLAMATION AND CONTINUOUS SUPPORT DOWN HERE.
UM, WHILE I GET TRACY UP HERE TO DO THE PROCLAMATION FOR CYBER AWARENESS, YOU GET TO COME UP.
UM, SHE'S ONE OF OUR NEW EMPLOYEES AND WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR HAZING.
I WILL TELL YOU LANKEY, WHICH WAS, UM, REALLY DR.
NOZ, I THINK YOU FOR A LEADER IN STARTING LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH AND THANK YOU.
BUT IT WENT FROM A LITTLE BIT IN ONE SCHOOL TO A FEW AND TWO SCHOOLS TO MANY AND ALMOST EVERY SCHOOL WE HAVE IN OUR, I KNOW THIS SIDE OF BROAD RIVER MAY BE, WHICH IS AMAZING.
AND THEY'RE ALWAYS AT OUR, OUR LET C 43 RUNS.
AND, UM, IT, IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE TO LEAD.
AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT WITH YOUR SCHOOL.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ IT?
ALL WE RECOGNIZE IT PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN IDENTIFYING, PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS AND RESPONDING TO THREATS THAT MAY HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO OUR INDIVIDUAL AND COLLECTIVE SAFETY AND PRIVACY.
CYBERSECURITY EDUCATION AWARENESS IS CRUCIAL FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING PROPER MAINTENANCE OF ALL OF OUR DEVICES AND ACCOUNTS THAT ARE INTERNET BASED.
WE SHOWCASE THE NEED TO INSPIRE, ENGAGE AND INFORM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE DEMAND OPPORTUNITIES AND CAREER OPTIONS AVAILABLE WITHIN THIS AREA.
CYBER SECURITY AND HIGHLIGHT HOW BUILDING THE NATIONS AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CYBER SECURITY WORKFORCE AND HOW IT ENHANCES THE NATION'S SECURITY AND PROMOTES ECONOMIC PROSPERITY.
THE CAMPAIGN IS STOP, THINK, CONNECT, AND IT SERVES AS A NATIONAL PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN IMPLEMENTED THROUGH A COALITION OF PRIVATE COMPANIES, NONPROFIT GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER INSTITUTIONS TO INCREASE, UH, COLLABORATION, TO INCREASE THE PUBLIC'S UNDERSTANDING AND EMPOWERING AMERICANS TO DEVELOP SAFE AND SECURE ONLINE PRACTICES.
NOW THEREFORE, I LISA SOKA, ALONG WITH THE BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL DEAR HEREBY PROCLAIMED THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS OFFICIALLY SUPPORTING CYBERSECURITY AWARENESS MONTH IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, DATED THIS 13TH ESSAY SEPTEMBER, 2022.
IT'S OCTOBER, BUT IT'S EVERY DAY YEAR, RIGHT? YES, I'M SANDY.
TRACY IS OUR NEW HEAD OF, UM, IT AND HAS BEEN HERE WHAT ABOUT A MONTH? WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS NOW.
UM, NOW WE HAVE PLANNING MONTH, KEVIN EUROPE.
WE WILL SPEED THROUGH THIS SO WE CAN GET ON.
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PLANNING MONTH CHANGES CONSTANT, IT AFFECT, IT AFFECTS ALL CITIES, TOWN, SUBURBS, COUNTY, FURROWS, TOWNSHIPS, RURAL AREAS IN OTHER PLACES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.COMMUNITY PLANNING AND PLANS HELP MANAGE THIS CHANGE IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES BETTER CHOICES FOR HOW PEOPLE WORK AND LIVE.
THE MONTH OF OCTOBER IS DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ITS, HERES THE CELEBRATION OF NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE THE PARTICIPATION AND DEDICATION OF THE MEMBERS OF PLANNING COMMISSIONS AND OTHER CITIZEN PLANNERS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED THEIR TIME AND EXPERTISE TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, LISA SACA MAYOR, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, ALONG WITH BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL, HEREBY PROCLAIMED THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, 2022 AS COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CELEBRATION OF THE NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH.
SO PLEASE RELATE US TO ALL WE HAVE.
WE HAVE MORE VOLUNTEERS FOR COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS, I BELIEVE, THAN WE HAVE PAID EMPLOYEES.
SO WE COUNT ON OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP US IN PLANNING IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STROKE PRESERVATION ARE ALL PART OF THAT.
YOU A PICTURE THANK OF THE TOWN AND THAT PLEASE RELAY OUR THANKS TO YOUR COMMITTEE FOR ALL YOU DO.
SO WE ARE GETTING A PLANNING COMMISSION ANNUAL UPDATE.
SO THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TONIGHT.
AND, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT LATELY, THE LAST MONTH OR SO, UM, STAFF HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT ABOUT COMMUNICATION AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE EXTRA EFFORT BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS BEFORE MEETINGS SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN MAKE MEETINGS RUN MORE SMOOTHLY SO THAT THEY DON'T TAKE FOREVER OR WE TRY NOT TO.
UM, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN GET SOME QUESTIONS CLEARED UP BEFOREHAND AND THE APPLICANTS CAN KIND OF HAVE A FEEL OR A TEMPERATURE OF WHAT IS GOING ON BEFORE THEY ARE JUST BLINDSIDED.
SO WE FEEL THAT'S BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
SO WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE, COORDINATING ALL THAT.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE OBVIOUSLY OVER THE YEARS COME UP WITH DIFFERENT U EDITS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN.
AND RECENTLY A LOT OF DIFFERENT ONES HAVE COME ACROSS THE TABLE IN PLANNING COMMISSION AND IN MY OTHER LICENSE WORKING IN ARCHITECTURE FIRM.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP SO THAT WE COULD ALL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE VIDEO EDITS AND HOW THEY, UM, KIND OF GO ALONGSIDE WITH BUILDING CODES AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE, UM, JUST NOT GOING DOWN THE SAME PATH AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, UM, SEE WHAT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT CLEARER FOR APPLICANTS AND FOR STAFF GOING THROUGH GUYS.
WELL, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT JOINT MEETINGS IN THE PAST, ESPECIALLY ON THESE EDITS.
UM, THOUGHTS FROM ANYONE? LOOK GOOD FOR AMANDA.
THANKS FOR, FOR WHAT YOU DOING ON ALSO, IT'S A TOUGH JOB.
IT DEFINITELY A LOT OF HOMEWORK.
SO HOW CAN WE GET EQUIP YOU WITH TRAINING OR WITH, UM, STUFF THAT I WOULD HELP THE OTHER MEMBERS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT? WELL, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, DOING THESE STAFF MEETINGS THEN A LOT BETTER.
UM, IT'S GONE A LOT SMOOTHER JUST BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, DOING OUR CONTINUING EDUCATION TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS LEGALLY WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.
UM, EVERYBODY JUST NEEDS TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
BUT I FEEL LIKE RIGHT NOW OUR PLANNING COMMISSION IS AT A GOOD SPOT.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A GOOD MIX AND VARIETY OF PEOPLE AND, UM, I'M PRETTY HAPPY WITH THEM AT THE MOMENT.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW, AS LONG AS WE HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION, I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN THING.
COMMUNICATION IS GOOD NOW, BUT I'M, I SERVE ON PLANET COMMISSION
AND I MEAN IF YOU WANNA GIVE ME MY PACKET LIKE MORE THAN A WEEK BEFORE, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF HARD WHEN YOU GET IT ON A FRIDAY AND IF WE HAVE 700 PAGES TO READ BY WEDNESDAY, THAT'S KIND OF HARD.
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SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THINGS IN THE BUSINESS WORLD THAT IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO THAT.UM, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT SOLUTION IS.
IN A PERFECT WORLD, YEAH, IT'D BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THINGS SOONER, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.
SOMETIMES I'LL LET YOU IN ON A SECRET.
WHAT, WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION, I GOT MY PACKET ON THURSDAYS, MY THOUGHT WAS GONNA BE WEDNESDAY.
NO, I USED TO COME DOWN THERE SO MUCH TO GET IT EARLY, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU.
BUT I'M WITH, I'M WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL.
SOME OF US STARTED OUT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT'S A GRAND, UH, TRAINING GROUNDS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE HOPES THAT MAYBE BEEN ON COUNCIL AT SOME POINT.
AND UH, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THE COMMITTEES IN THE TOWN OF BLUFF AND ARE IMPORTANT TO EACH OF US.
BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO VET SO MUCH INFORMATION AND TO PUT TOGETHER GOOD PLANS, UH, AND AND RESPONSES THAT THIS COUNCIL TAKES IT VERY SERIOUSLY.
WE READ YOUR, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU APPROVE WHAT YOU DON'T APPROVE AND YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS DO CARRY TREMENDOUS WEIGHT WITH THE FIVE OF US.
UM, I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE RELUCTANT TO STEP UP INTO A LEADERSHIP ROLE.
AND SO WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU HAVE AND WE'RE PROUD OF YOU AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU AND THE IN THE COMMITTEE DO.
LIKE 20 YEARS WHEN MY, WHEN MY WIFE SERVED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I HELPED HER GO THROUGH THOSE AND CARRY THOSE BOOKS.
SIX LOAD BOOKS EVERY WEEK OR EVERY MEETING.
WOULD IT NOT BE EASY ENOUGH IF STAFF COULD GIVE YOU GUYS SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY DONE? YOU KNOW, I'M SURE EVERYTHING, THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL PACKET COMING TO YOU IS ONE THING, BUT IF THERE'S ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN THE WORKS OR WHATEVER THAT'S COMPLETED A WEEK OR 10 DAYS AHEAD, IF YOU COULD, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? INSTEAD OF PILING THAT THOU, CUZ IT'S HARD ON US TOO, JUST WITH THIS AMOUNT IF YOU STILL HAVE TO WORK FOR A LIVING.
UM, I MEAN THAT WOULD, IT'S A LOT OF STUFF AND IT'S, IT'S, YOU GET KIND OF BURN OUT ON IT.
ESPECIALLY ALL THAT FOR ALL THE STUFF YOU KNOW.
IS SHE NOT TALKING IN THE MICROPHONE? THE MIC IS TURNED WRONG AWAY.
SO, SO ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF COULD MAKE THAT WORK OR NOT, BUT TO ME IT WOULD MAKE PERFECT SENSE TO, YOU KNOW, SEND HALF THE PACKET AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT IT GIVES THEM A LITTLE HEAD START.
AND THEN JUST FINISH THE, THE TOTAL, YOU KNOW, TOTAL, UH, AGENDA.
ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS, UM, AT THE WEEK BEFORE OR THURSDAY OR WHATEVER.
LET ME GET, HOLD YOUR THOUGHT.
OKAY, JERRY, UM, MAYOR COUNSEL, UM, ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, IT'S A COMP PLAN.
COMP PLAN WOULD NOT BE IN THE FORM IT IN NOW IF IT WASN'T THE DILIGENCE AND THE PERSISTENCE AND, UH, ALL THE WORK THAT PLANNING COMMISSION DID ON IT.
THEY GOT IT FROM HERE TO WHERE, WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE.
SO AMANDA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOU AND YOUR, YOUR COHORT GETTING THAT DONE.
JUST, YOU KNOW, I DO SEE A TIPPING POINT.
WE DON'T CARRY THE BINDERS ANYMORE.
I DIDN'T SERVE ON PLANNING GOD APPARENTLY.
UM, BUT IT, THAT I WAS PART OF WHEN TINA, WELL ACTUALLY WHEN ALL OF Y'ALL WERE IN PLANNING COMMISSION TO SEE THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT WERE COMING OUR WAY FROM PAST COUNCILS AND CURRENT COUNCILS.
AND I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO BRAINSTORM AS MUCH AS I'D LOVE FOR US FOR A JOINT PLANNING TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, IF WE CAN ARRANGE THAT JUST TO TALK AND SEE AND ARE WE ALL, ARE YOU FOLLOWING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN? ARE WE ALL ON THE SAME GOAL? ARE THERE SILLY THINGS FOR THIS STUDIO THAT I HAVE FOLLOWED OVER THE PAST MONTH? IT REALLY SHOULD BE EXCUSES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE ALL SHOULD BE TAKING NOTES TO MAKE IT EASIER.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROCESS EQUITABLE EVERY MONTH, UM, AND MAKE IT USER FRIENDLY.
CAUSE WE ARE GETTING OVER THAT PUMP OF CRAZINESS AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO MAYBE YOU CAN, CAN BRAINSTORM Y'ALL LIVE AND BREATHE IT, SEE WHAT WORKS.
AND KEVIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GOTTA GET YOUR PAPERWORK IN BEFORE WEDNESDAY,
I KNOW WE HAVE KIND OF FOLLOWING UP ON, ON A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
UM, THE INTENT IS THAT THE NOVEMBER MEETING, WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS SOME OF THESE ITEMS. SO THE GOAL IS TO, TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU GUYS TO, TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK ON, ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT MS. DENMARK HAS, UH, HAS MENTIONED AS WELL AS OTHERS THAT WE PICKED UP.
AS YOU KNOW, IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN ANNUAL UDO UPDATE.
SO THAT'S WHERE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT
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WE HAVE.AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, MEANT TO BE LIKE A HOUSEKEEPING.
UH, WHEN WE FIND ITEMS LIKE THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, WE'LL BRING THOSE ALL IN A LUMP SUM.
SO, UH, NEXT MONTH WE WILL BRING THIS AS A WORKSHOP FOR A DISCUSSION.
UH, AND THEN IT'LL GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO THEN TAKE THAT INFORMATION, TALK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TALK TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, FORMULATE SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE PROPOSED CHANGES, AND THEN BRING THEM BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO WORKSHOP FOR US OR WORKSHOP FOR PLANNING.
WELL, RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE A WORKSHOP FOR, FOR YOU TOWN COUNCIL TO, WE HAVE A, AND I WAS LOOKING ON MY CALENDAR.
I HAVE THAT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK.
THIS WILL BE A WORKSHOP DURING THE REGULAR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
IT'S, IT'S AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.
WOULD IT WORK TO THINK ABOUT A QUARTERLY WORKSHOP DOWN THE ROAD AND INVITE PLANNING AND HPC AT LEAST TO PARTICIPATE? I KNOW WE CAN'T ALL SIT AROUND A ROOM, BUT WE CAN KEEP IT, IT'S A MORE INFORMAL WHEN IT'S JUST A WORKSHOP.
SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN, WE CAN START WITH YOU AND THEN, UM, NEXT MONTH WE CAN THEN KIND OF DETERMINE AND, AND WORK THROUGH A POTENTIAL JOINT WORKSHOP.
BUT THAT'LL GIVE US THE, THE IDEAS OF SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE.
THAT WAY WE CAN START FORMULATING THIS INFORMATION, PUTTING IT TOGETHER, SO THAT WAY, UM, WHEN WE DO MEET, UM, WE CAN, UM, BE EFFICIENT WITH OUR TIME.
AND THIS WORKSHOP WOULD ALSO INCLUDE PUBLIC? OH YEAH.
IT'LL BE, OBVIOUSLY IT'LL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR AMANDA? THANK YOU, AMANDA, FOR, UM, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN MANY ROLES.
YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO COME BACK.
UM, NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER SIX UNDER PRESENTATIONS.
RYAN CENTER FOR INNOVATION UPDATE.
IS THIS, IS IT IN THE FOLDER? NOPE.
IF YOU'RE, BOB'S DRIVING RIGHT.
WHILE HE'S GETTING IT, WHILE THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, I DO WANNA THROW WHAT I TALKED TO DAVID ABOUT SATURDAY.
THEY HAD TO REDO THIS PEDALS PEDAL.
IT WAS A ENTREPRENEURS FOR KIDS AND IT WAS ALL LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL, I MEAN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS WHO ARE LITTLE ENTREPRENEURS AND THEY HAD IT AT USC AND I TALKED TO DAVID, MAYBE HE COULD TALK TO HIS BOARD ABOUT HOW DO WE START GROWING THESE LITTLE, LITTLE GUYS TEACHING ABOUT BUSINESS LICENSE OR TEACHING 'EM ABOUT, IT WAS THE COOLEST THING.
AND HEARING FROM THE KIDS THEIR, THEIR HURDLES TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP.
IT WAS REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO SHOW Y'ALL PHOTOS.
THEY WERE BRIGHT YOUNG THIRD GRADERS TO EIGHTH GRADERS.
THEY ONE MADE THEIR OWN ICE CREAM.
ONE IS AN AMAZING ARTIST AND I WISH DR.
CORLEY RESTA HILL, HE'S A FOURTH GRADER AT RED CEDAR.
HE IS ONE OF THE FABULOUS ARTISTS.
HE'S BEEN DRAWING SINCE HE WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.
A LONG TIME FROM FIVE YEARS OLD TO FOURTH GRADE, NO TRAINING.
UM, SO I HOPE THEIR BOARD WILL CONSIDER HOW DO WE HELP THOSE PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, LITTLE OUTREACH TO OUR SCHOOLS.
ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT MADE BRACELETS, UM, SAID, I ASKED, WHY AREN'T YOU SELLING ON ETSY? AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS.
AND DAVID THINKS HE HAS A SOLUTION.
IT'S A COST TO GO ON ETSY'S, EVEN FOR YOUNG LITTLE ONES LIKE THAT PAY FOR PER PICTURE.
AND THEY DON'T, THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD, BUT HOW DO WE HELP 'EM? SO NOW ARE YOU READY RIGHT NOW? I'M READY.
DIFFERENT FORMAT, BUT WE CAN STILL TALK ABOUT IT.
MAYOR COUNCIL'S, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN TODAY.
UM, I SEE YOU JUST A 30 MINUTES AFTER I SAW YOUR LAST, SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE ON, UH, THE JOHN RYAN CENTER AND IT WILL BE LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES LONG.
ALRIGHT, SO LAST I SPOKE WITH YOU IN MAY AND WE'VE DONE A LOT SINCE MAY.
AND YOU MAY REMEMBER IN STRATEGIC PLANNING, WE WERE ALL ABOUT, UH, LOOKING AT PARTNERSHIPS AND FOCUSING ON PARTNERSHIPS AND WHAT WE DO WELL.
UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, AND I'M NOT GONNA READ THE SLIDE TO YOU, YOU CAN READ, UM, THAT THE PARTNERSHIP THING HAS BEEN GOING GREAT.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH A LOT OF PARTNERS.
WE'VE HAD THEM USE THE HUB FACILITY QUITE A BIT AND I'M GONNA GET INTO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
UM, LAST MONTH WE STARTED WORKING
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MORE TIGHTLY WITH ONE OF OUR PARTNERS AT BE COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND JOHN O TOOL, AS YOU KNOW.AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, JOHN HAS AN OFFICE LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO MINE AT THE HUB.
SO WE'RE WORKING VERY WELL TOGETHER IN A NUMBER OF PROJECTS WE'VE JUST BROUGHT ON PAUL ARVIN TIS AS THE NEW VP OF INNOVATION.
HE STARTED, UM, LAST THURSDAY AND HE'S STILL COMING BACK.
SO HE MUST LIKE WHAT HE'S DOING AND MUST LIKE THE STAFF.
UM, PAUL IS, UM, IS FROM UPSTATE NEW YORK AND UH, WAS THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR OF A SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION INSIDE AN INCUBATOR THAT WAS LOCATED AT A COLLEGE.
SO, UH, HE REALLY HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND HE HAD RUN A BUSINESS OF HIS OWN FOR 13 YEARS.
AND JUST LIKE, UH, KIM ROCHE, WHO WE'D HIRED RECENTLY AS INNOVATION MANAGER, SHE HAD HER OWN BUSINESS AS WELL.
SO WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT GOOD AT HIRING PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT AT EXPERIENCE THE PAIN OF, AND THE JOY, BUT SOMETIMES THE PAIN OF RUNNING INTO BUSINESS.
AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING WE REALLY NEED TO PASS ON TO THE ENTREPRENEUR, THAT IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO BE YOUR OWN BOSS AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT GREAT TO BE YOUR OWN BOSS.
UH, AS FAR AS THE PROGRAM UPDATE, UH, THESE, A LITTLE HARD TO READ, BUT YOU, WE HAVE THE RESILIENCY PROGRAM.
WE HAVE THREE COMPANIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN RESILIENCY, BUT WE'VE HAD 67 COMPANIES IN RESILIENCY SINCE MARCH OF 2020 IN THE STARTUP PROGRAM.
THERE ARE SIX CURRENTLY THANK YOU.
AND 14 SINCE FEBRUARY OF 2020.
AND IN GROWTH TWO, CURRENTLY SEVEN SINCE JULY OF 2020, THERE ARE 1,023 MEMBERS OF THE DON RYAN CENTER.
WE HAVE MORE MENTORS THAN SCORE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE LARGER SCORE CHAPTERS, UM, IN THE STATE, IN THE, IN THE NATION.
AND WE HAVE MORE MENTORS THAN THEY DO.
AND WE'RE HAVING A BIG MENTOR MINGLE, AN INNOVATOR TRADE SHOW AT THE DON RYAN CENTER ON OCTOBER 27TH.
FROM FIVE TO SEVEN YOU WILL ALL BE INVITED AND YOU CAN MEET SOME OF OUR MENTORS AND, UH, SEE SOME OF THE COMPANIES WE'RE WORKING WITH.
AS FAR AS PARTNERSHIPS, UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PARTNERS NOW AND, AND YOU KNOW, PARTNERS ARE THINGS THAT ARE EASY TO PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE AND SAY, THESE ARE PEOPLE WE PARTNER WITH, BUT THESE ARE PEOPLE WE REALLY PARTNER WITH AND ARE DOING THINGS WITH.
IF YOU LOOK AT FROM BLACK WITTY TO BEAUFORT COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE HARDY ABILITY, THE JASPER CHAMBER TO SCORE, THESE ARE ALL THE EVENTS WE HAVE DONE IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
UH, THE GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER.
WE USED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, NOT GREAT, UM, RELATIONSHIPS WITH SOME, SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS FOR OTHER REASONS.
AND THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN REPAIRED AND WE ARE SALES CORNY.
ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY TRYING TO HELP BEAUFORT AND BLUFFTON COUNTY BUSINESSES OR BLUFF BEAUFORT COUNTY BUSINESSES.
AND THE LAST THING IS THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS.
I SHOWED YOU THIS CHART IN, UM, IN STRATEGIC PLANNING.
I HAD, I SAID, HERE ARE THE THINGS I'M GONNA START TALKING ABOUT.
AND EVERYTHING WAS THERE EXCEPT THE NUMBERS.
AND HERE ARE THE NUMBERS AS OF THIS YEAR.
SO WE NOW HAVE A STAFF OF FOUR.
REMEMBER THE DON RYAN CENTER IS ABOUT 11 YEARS OLD.
FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS WE HAD ONE PERSON AND THEN WE HAD THREE PEOPLE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, RESILIENCY, STARTUP AND GROWTH.
THOUSAND 23 MEMBERS, 60 MENTORS.
AND OUR COMPANY'S YEAR TO DATE HAVE RECEIVED ABOUT $112,000 IN FUNDING.
UH, AS FAR AS THE OUTPUTS THIS YEAR WE HAVE SERVED EIGHT COMPANIES WE'VE HOSTED, AND THOSE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS I JUST SHOWED YOU, WE HAVE HOSTED 22 SEPARATE EVENTS AT THE HUB SINCE SPRING OF THIS YEAR.
OF THE 60 MENTORS WE HAVE 42 OF THEM ARE ENGAGED.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S BETTER THAN THAT.
65% OF THE PEOPLE WE SERVE COME FROM BLUFF.
WE'VE GRADUATED 51 COMPANIES THAT GENERATE TOTAL REVENUE OF MORE ALMOST 40 MILLION.
THAT, THAT NUMBER IS ABOUT A YEAR OLD.
WE'RE GONNA UPDATE SOME OF THESE NUMBERS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND HERE'S A, A NICE STAT, THREE YEAR SURVIVAL OF ALL THE COMPANIES WE'VE WORKED WITH, 76% OF THEM ARE STILL IN BUSINESS.
THE AVERAGE PERCENTAGE FOR COMPANIES THAT DO NOT GO THROUGH AN INCUBATOR THAT ARE AROUND AFTER THREE YEARS IS 40% COMPANIES THAT WORK WITH AN INCUBATOR, THEIR AVERAGE SURVIVAL IS 70 TO 80%.
SO WE'RE RIGHT IN THAT SWEET SPOT.
SO WE ARE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A GREAT TEAM AND UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THESE THINGS TO PROMOTE BLUFF AND BUFORD COUNTY.
AND THAT'S MY FOUR MINUTE AND 28 SECOND PRESENTATIONS.
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FOR THANK YOU.THEY WOULD ALWAYS ENJOY THE REPORTS.
THE UPDATE THAT YOU GIVE HERE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, JUST OUR BUSINESSES IN, UH, GENERAL AND ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT WITHIN YOUR LAST REPORT, IS THERE SOMETHING CURRENTLY IN PLACE WHERE, UM, THE DON RYAN CENTER IS ABLE TO DO LIKE A, A HEALTH AND WELLNESS CHECK, IF YOU CAN, OF BUSINESSES THAT EITHER COME THROUGH YOUR PROGRAM OR, UH, LOCAL BUSINESSES WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, TAKE ADVANTAGES OF THE SERVICES YOU OFFER TO KIND OF GAUGE LIKE WHERE THEIR BUSINESSES IN TERMS OF SUCCESS, UM, TO GET THEM BEFORE THEY ARE ON THE BRINK OF LIKE CLOSING THEIR BUSINESS DOWN OR THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE OPERATE KIND OF AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN WHAT STORE DOES, BUT WE'VE RECOGNIZED THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAYBE FOR WHATEVER REASON, NOT AWARE OF WHAT WE DO OR, OR DON'T THINK THEY NEED TO COME TO US AND MAYBE HAVING SOME MORE BUSINESS ONE ON ONE TYPE PROGRAMMING, WHETHER THAT BE HOW TO START A BUSINESS OR HOW TO CHECK THE HEALTH OF YOUR BUSINESS, THAT IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE HAVE LOOKED AT BEFORE AND SOMETHING THAT IS UNTAPPED FOR 2023.
YEAH, CUZ I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT.
I KNOW ONE OF THE, UM, BUSINESSES IN YOUR LAST REPORT WAS, UM, A WOODWORKING MM-HMM.
I KNOW THEY SINCE HAVE ANNOUNCED THEIR CLOSING.
UM, BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE BEFORE THEY GET TO THAT POINT, IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE IS SOMETHING, UM, IN PLACE TO KIND OF GAUGE WHERE THEY ARE TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF SERVICES THEY COULD USE.
OR EVEN IF THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, BE CREATIVE IN PARTNERING WITH ANOTHER BUSINESS WHO MIGHT BE DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR, COULD USE THAT SPACE.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
AND TO, TO THAT COMPANY AND QUESTION, I KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE'S, THERE'S SOME BACKSTORY THERE THAT I RATIONALE FOR WHY THAT HAPPENED THE WAY IT DID.
UH, BUT TO YOUR LARGER POINT, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, HELP THE WELLNESS CHECK FOR YOUR BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS CHECKUP IF YOU RIGHT.
ANYTHING ON THIS SIDE? JUST ONE, UH, THE 10, THE THOUSAND 23 MEMBERS, UM, WHEN COVID HIT AND WE CHANGED OUR MODEL AND WE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IN MASS AND PEOPLE WERE COMING THROUGH AND DROVES TO BE MEMBERS, OUR OUR NUMBERS SHOT UP EXPONENTIALLY.
UM, NOW THAT COVID IS KIND OF TAMPED DOWN A LITTLE BIT, ARE THEY STILL, THE MAJORITY OF 'EM STILL THERE? I MEAN, ARE THEY HANGING IN THERE WITH YOU OR, OR NOT? THEY ARE.
WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DID, UH, COUNSELING, WE, WE CHANGED FROM A PAID MEMBER TO A FREED MEMBERSHIP, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY IT'S EASIER TO DO WHEN IT'S FREE.
UM, BUT UM, WE ALSO HAD A LARGER ADVERTISING AND MARKETING PROGRAM.
WE WERE FOCUSED ON MEMBERSHIP AS A REVENUE SOURCE AND THEN ONCE WE WENT TO COVID AND WE GAVE IT AWAY FREE, WE STILL FOCUS ON THAT.
WE STILL HAD THOSE, UH, RESIDUAL EFFECTS OF THE MARKETING AND THINGS THERE.
WE STILL HAD A PUSH ON MEMBERSHIP.
UM, WE DON'T PUSH IT AS MUCH AS WE USED TO, FRANKLY.
UM, I WANT TO FIND SOME MORE VALUE IN THE MEMBERSHIP OTHER THAN JUST THE, I MEAN THE, THE NEWSLETTERS AND SOME OF THE EVENTS WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND THAT'S AGAIN A BIG PART OF WHAT 2023 IS GONNA BE ABOUT HAVING MORE DON RYAN EVENTS AT THE HUB, UH, LIKE HOW I BUILT IT, LIKE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS PEOPLE, GENTLEMEN LIKE GREG PARKER OR OTHER FOLKS THAT, THAT HAVE BUILT BIG BUSINESSES AND HERE'S LEARN HOW THEY DID IT AND HAVE MORE ENTICING CONTENT TO BUMP THAT MEMBERSHIP NUMBER BROKEN YET.
WE HAVE A MEETING THURSDAY, SO PUBLICLY YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO COME TO, UH, THE BOARD MEETING FIVE 30 THIS THURSDAY.
YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO COME ANYTIME IT'S FUN TO SLEEP ON THESE CONFERENCE.
YEAH, SO IT'S PUBLIC AND ANYONE'S WELCOME AND ANYONE'S WELCOME TO TALK ABOUT BEING A MENTOR OR SUPPORTING IT.
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COMMENT.WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ONE TIME, UM, DURING OUR COUNCIL MEETING AND THE RULES NEVER CHANGE.
UH, PLEASE ADDRESS COUNSEL AND IN SPEAKING TO US, AVOID DISRESPECT TO THE COUNCIL AND ANY OTHER PERSONALITIES IN THE ROOM CAN FIND YOURSELVES TO THE QUESTIONS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THIS COUNCIL AND BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF THOSE WHO ARE PRESENT.
SO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
IT'S FOR OUR TOWN CLERK TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT FOR THE MINUTES SO WE CAN RECORD EVERYTHING CORRECTLY AND REPRESENT YOU AS BEST WE CAN IN THE MINUTES.
SO KIM, YOU ARE UP ON PUBLIC COMMENT, EUGENE MCCUNE AND IF WE SAY YOUR NAME WRONG, TELL US WE DON'T MEAN TO OKAY.
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I EUGENE MCCUNE AND I LIVE AT FOR WORTH CREEK COVE.I'M ADDRESSING YOU TODAY BECAUSE OF THE FORMAL AGENDA.
YOU HAVE CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL FOR AMENDMENT FOR THE MASTER PLAN FOR MIDPOINT THE NEW RIVERSIDE.
UM, BEING A, UM, RESIDENCE AT MIDPOINT, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES GOING DOWN THE MAIN ROAD OF MIDPOINT, MIDPOINT BOULEVARD, UM, WHICH MY, MY HOUSE BORDERS AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC WHEN A HOUSING PLAN GETS DEVELOPED.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED AS A HOUSE A HOMEOWNER, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WORD ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE.
AND IF THEY WERE GONNA BUILD A SECONDARY ROAD TO ALLEVIATE THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY, A LOT OF, THERE'S SOME HOUSES RIGHT ALONG THAT THEY ACTUALLY, THEIR DRIVEWAY IS ON THE BOULEVARD THERE, WHICH WILL MAKE IT HARD FOR THEM GETTING OUT A CERTAIN TIME OF DAYS.
AND ALSO THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC, WHICH IS A MAIN CONCERN IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON WHEN SCHOOL IS LET OUT.
WE ALL ALSO, I HAVE A STUDENT GOING UP INTO THE NINTH GRADER IN MAY RIVER NEXT YEAR AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE CLASS SIZE SINCE IT'S CLOSE TO, IF NOT OVER 2000 STUDENTS ALREADY.
HOW BIG IS THAT SCHOOL GONNA GROW WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT BEING PUT IN THERE AND WHEN IT'S SOPHOMORE AND JUNIOR YEAR, WHAT'S THE CLASS SIZE GONNA BE? AND THOSE ARE MAIN CONCERN WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT BEING IMPROVED.
UM, ALSO WITH, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY, UM, WITH THE HOA, WHICH I'M PART OF AS WELL.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WORD ON THOSE STUDIES AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED, WE'VE SENT THEM A LETTER FOR THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE COMMUNITY WORKING WITH THEM AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING BACK ON THEM AS WELL.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME FOR THIS AND HAVE A GOOD DAY.
AND WE, I SEE NOTES BEING TAKEN.
WE'LL ADDRESS Y'ALL'S COMMENTS AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME OF THE AGENDA ITEM, SO, UM, THAT'S GREAT.
I'M COUNCIL MAYOR, UM, MICHELLE KEEL 22 TRAIL RIDGE RETREAT.
UM, CALLING OR DISCUSSING THE, UM, DELAY OF THE APPROVAL OF THE MIDPOINT PHASE TWO, UM, PROJECTS.
SO AS EUGENE STATED EARLIER, WE HAVE BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH PTE.
UM, THEY HAVE PRESENTED, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE PLANNING COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMITTEE TRYING TO CREATE A COHESIVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UNLIKE SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN NEW RIVERSIDE.
SO AS PHASE TWO COMES IN AND HAS IT HAS ITS, HAS IT AS IT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO TOWN IS THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE EXTENUATING MIDPOINT INTO A BIGGER NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED IS MORE OF A STANDALONE COMMUNITY.
SO UNTIL WE HAVE SOME SORT OF DOCUMENTATION OF AGREEMENTS WITH THE CURRENT HOME OWNERSHIP AND TY TO MAKE A COHESIVE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO BE MIDPOINT NEW RIVERSIDE, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THAT DELAY.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE DOCUMENTATION.
WE'VE BEEN WAITING ABOUT TWO MONTHS FOR IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST APPROVE IT AS A BOARD.
WE HAVE TO GO IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE ONLY HAVE 93 HOUSES, THEY'RE ADDING 400, OR I'M SORRY, WE HAVE 105 HOMES, 63 FREE STANDING HOUSES AND THE REST OF THEIR TOWN HOME COMMUNITY.
SO I MEAN, WE, WE CAN GET IT APPROVED ONCE WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION, BUT IF IT GETS APPROVED WITHOUT THE DOCUMENTATION, WE REALLY HAVE NO LEVERAGE WITH PULTE TO GET THEM TO STAND BEHIND WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED SO FAR.
SO LIKE I SAID, JUST THE DELAY.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING WAS WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WE ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM MIDPOINT OR MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL COMING AND THE, IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY THEY SAID THEY THE POTENTIAL FOR A RIGHT TURN ACCESS, BUT THE MAIN PROBLEM IS GETTING OUT OF MIDPOINT WITH AN ADDITIONAL 400 HOMES OUT OF THAT MAIN ENTRANCE IN THE MORNING BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S COMING INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL UN TURNING LEFT.
SO YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN OUT OF MIDPOINT WITH ALL THOSE STUDENTS AND CARPOOLS COMING IN.
SO IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE STUDENTS.
IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF SAFETY ISSUES.
IT'S A TRAGEDY WAITING TO HAPPEN.
AND THEN FINALLY WITH THE SECONDARY ROAD ACCESS, WE ONLY HAVE ONE ROAD GOING INTO MIDPOINT AND THERE ARE ONLY GONNA BE BUILDING 90 HOMES TO BEGIN WITH.
SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE PROJECT'S GONNA GO.
SO WE COULD HAVE FIVE TO 10 YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS.
WE'RE A WORKFORCE COMMUNITY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
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IS WORKING FOR THE COMMUNITY OF BLUFFTON AND IT'S JUST A SAFETY ISSUE WITH THE SITE PREP TRUCKS AND CONTRACTORS AND I MEAN, WE KNOW HOW NEW RIVERSIDE HAS BEEN DESTROYED BY THE TRAFFIC FLOW OF TRUCKS GOING INTO PALMETTO BLUFF AND THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT.SO AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
HOW ARE YOU FOLKS DOING THIS THIS EVENING? I'M ANDREW KEEL, LIVE AT 22 TRAIL RIDGE RETREAT 2 99 1 0.
UM, I'M BASICALLY ASKING THAT AGAIN FOR MY EMAIL I SENT OUT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS GOT A CHANCE TO READ THAT OR NOT, BUT TO, TO DELAY APPROVING THE MA THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AGAIN, UNTIL THERE IS A AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HOA AND PTY TALK IS CHEAP.
I MEAN, THINGS HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND FEW EMAILS GONE BACK AND FORTH, BUT UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING FORMAL IN WRITING, THINGS CAN CHANGE.
IT'S NOT ENFORCEABLE, NOTHING'S THERE.
AND AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE TINY COMPARED TO PTY, AN 8.2 BILLION PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST ASKING THE CITIZENS OF BLUFF INTO HELP PROTECT US.
AND YOU KNOW, I WAS AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION I THINK, UH, THIS IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE, THE CYPRESS RIDGE SITUATION LAST, LAST MONTH WHERE CYPRESS RIDGE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOT TOO HAPPY WITH THE, UH, DEVELOPER PUTTING IN THOSE TOWNHOUSES AND YOU ASKED THEM TO GO BACK AND TALK AND GET IT, GET IT WORKED OUT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR HERE.
A FEW SPECIFIC THINGS I WANTED TO GET ON THE RECORD.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROVIDED A COVERAGE LETTER, UM, AND A SCHOOL DISTRICT COVERAGE LETTERS PRETTY CLEAR WITHOUT SAYING, DON'T PUT ANY MORE STUDENTS IN HERE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SAYING THEY CAN'T HANDLE IT.
I, I MEAN I I I THINK IT WOULD AGAIN HELP THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL TO TRY TO SLOW DOWN GROWTH A LITTLE BIT SO THE SCHOOLS CAN CATCH UP.
UM, NOT ONLY MY WIFE MENTIONED, BUT IN THE CURRENT PLANS THEY'RE PULL TO P TO WOULD LIKE TO PUT A GATE THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS THROUGH, UH, BETWEEN OUR TWO SUBDIVISIONS.
I, AGAIN, CYPRESS RIDGE HAS A GATE BETWEEN THEM AND FOUR SEASONS THAT WAS MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING.
I THINK THE TOWN COUNCIL UH, EXPRESSED THAT THEY MAY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE THERE ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT WOULD BE NICE FOR US TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT SECOND ACCESS POINT IF WE NEED TO GET OUTTA OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THIRD THING, UM, I LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY, DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I DID SEE THAT ONE OF THE PROPOSALS WAS A EASTBOUND TURNING WAY.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS EASTBOUND TURNING LANE IS PROPOSED TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
IS IT MIDPOINT BOULEVARD GOING OUT ONTO NEW RIVERSIDE? UH, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT.
AND THEN IT ALSO MENTIONED THAT POTENTIALLY A TRAFFIC LIGHT WOULD BE INSTALLED THERE, BUT CONSTRUCTION SHOULD BE FINISHED PRIOR TO TWO.
SO, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THERE'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE AND IT'D BE NICE TO GET THAT STUFF WORKED OUT PRIOR TO THINGS GETTING KICKED DOWN THE ROAD WHEN NOBODY OTHER THAN THE UGO ADMINISTRATOR POTENTIALLY HAS A SAY IN THINGS.
I LIVE AT 17 MULLET STREET, BUT MOST OFTEN YOU CAN FIND ME AT THE HAYWARD HOUSE MUSEUM.
AND WELCOME CENTER COUNCIL MEMBERS MAYOR SOKA.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AND GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE HAYWARD HOUSE DURING THIS EVENING'S PUBLIC COMMENTS SE SESSION.
AND THANK YOU TO THE BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT.
A FEW WEEKS AGO WE HOSTED OUR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER, THE BULL PEANUT FESTIVAL.
IT WAS WILDLY SUCCESSFUL, MORE SO THAN I PERSONALLY ANTICIPATED WITH ATTENDANCE BETWEEN 1200 TO 1500 LOCAL AND OUT OF TOWNERS.
A LOT OF, A LOT WAS LEARNED, FUN WAS HAD, AND I GREATLY LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING BACK THE EVENT COMMITTEE TO MAKE NEXT YEAR'S FESTIVAL EVEN MORE GRAND.
A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE LOCAL SHOPS AND PEOPLE THAT SO GENEROUSLY DONATED FOR OUR SILENT OPTION AND RAFFLE.
I WILL STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT I FILED THE NECESSARY PAPERWORK WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO ENSURE OUR RAFFLE WAS FULLY LEGITIMATE.
ANOTHER ROUND OF PAPERWORK THAT IS QUITE DETAILED OUTLINING EACH ITEM AND ITS
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VALUE THAT WAS IN THE RAFFLE AND SILENT OPTION WILL BE INCLUDED ON IN OUR END OF FISCAL YEAR REPORTS AND FILED WITH THE STATE.ALSO, THANK YOU TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS IN POSSE VOLUNTEERS THAT SO GRACIOUSLY DONATED THEIR TIME TO HELP MAKE THE BOWL PEANUT FESTIVAL A SUCCESS.
I HEARD FROM A LITTLE BIRD THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MISSING THE NEWSLETTER THAT I BROUGHT BACK IN MAY.
I DO GREATLY APOLOGIZE FOR THE LAPSE IN OUR MONTHLY NEWSLETTER AND ASSURE YOU IT IS COMING BACK AND WILL BE PACKED WITH UPDATES AND INFORMATION.
OCTOBER IS QUITE BUSY WITH EVENTS ON COMMON GROUND, INCLUDING SOME CELEBRATIONS FOR BRIDAL SHOWERS, BABY SHOWERS, AND A FEW WEDDING CEREMONIES.
WE ALSO HAVE A GROUP OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS FROM HERITAGE ACADEMY COMING TO TOUR THE HOUSE AND PROPERTY ON FRIDAY WITH SEVERAL MORE SCHOOL FILLED TRIPS ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR.
EVERYONE WHO COMES THROUGH FOR AN EVENT, A TOUR, OR JUST TO COLLECT SOME MAPS AND AND INFORMATION APPRECIATES THE HARD WORK THAT IS PUT PUT IN TO MAINTAIN THE GROUNDS AND THE HAYWARD HOUSE ITSELF.
WITH THAT, I WANT TO THANK THE TOWN AND TOWN STAFF FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR AAX FUNDING EACH YEAR.
ACCOMMODATIONS TAX FUNDING IS HOW WE ARE ABLE TO QUITE LITERALLY KEEP THE LIGHTS ON AT THE HAYWARD HOUSE MUSEUM AND WELCOME CENTER BY HAVING OUR DOOR DOORS OPEN.
WE ARE PRESENTED WITH A FIRSTHAND OPPORTUNITY DURING OUR HOURS OF OPERATION MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY TO PROMOTE OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES BY HANDING OUT MAPS AND BROCHURES AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO, WHERE TO EAT, AND WHAT TO SEE IN OUR BELOVED TOWN.
ATEX FUNDING IS ALSO USED FOR REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.
LET ME REMIND YOU THAT THE ORIGINAL PORTION OF THE HAYWARD HOUSE WAS, IS OVER 180 YEARS OLD.
ATEX FUNDING IS ALSO USED FOR INSURANCE SALARY ACCOUNTING, WHICH INCLUDES OUR YEARLY AUDIT BY A CPA, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFF IN THROUGH OUR MOA.
OUR AUDIT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2122 IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY AND WE ANTICIPATE IT TO BE COMPLETED IN NOVEMBER.
ANOTHER CRUCIAL LINE ITEM THAT WE INCLUDE IN OUR AAX REQUEST FOR FUNDING EACH YEAR IS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT MONIES.
THIS ISN'T JUST A WILDCARD FIGURE.
WE MEET WITH THE NECESSARY PROFESSIONALS TO ASSESS AND DETERMINE A SCOPE OF WORK TO BE COMPLETED IN A RESTORATIVE TO.
GOSH, YOU'RE GOING REALLY? I THINK TIM WORKED, KEPT FINISHED.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU WERE TIRING ME OUT.
YEAH, JUST TAP ON ALL MY EXTRA TIME THAT I HAD IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
UM, SO FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, THIS ISN'T JUST A WILDCARD FIGURE.
WE MEET WITH THE NECESSARY PROFESSIONALS TO ASSESS AND DETERMINE A SCOPE OF WORK TO BE COMPLETED IN A RESTORATIVE MANNER AS WELL AS ESTIMATED EXPENSES SURROUNDING THESE SUCH PROJECTS.
OUR REMAINING FUNDING COMES FROM OTHER GRANTS, SPECIAL EVENTS, GIFT SHOP, SALES TOURS AND PROGRAMS AND PRIVATE DONATIONS.
AS AN EXAMPLE, PLEASE STOP BY SOME TIME TO CHECK OUT THE GLORIOUS PROGRESS MADE WITH OUR CURRENT EX UM, EXTERIOR PRESERVATION PROJECT.
EXTERNAL LIST WILL BE REPAIRING THE SUMMER KITCHEN ROOF USING AAX FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY, AND THEN ASSESSING THE NEEDS TO RESTORE PORTIONS OF THE ENSLAVED CABIN.
IN CONCLUSION, THANK YOU TO OUR COMMUNITY IN ALL THAT SUPPORT AND BELIEVE IN OUR MISSION TO PROTECT, PRESERVE, AND PROMOTE THE HISTORY AND CULTURAL HERITAGE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFF AND SOUTH CAROLINA THROUGH EDUCATION, MARKETING, AND HANDS ON PRESERVATION OF BUILDINGS AND SITES.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME.
NEXT TIME GET ON THE AGENDA, NOT ON PUBLIC COMMENT.
I PRACTICE THIS SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE COMING OVER HERE AND I HAD EXTRA TIME AT THE END, BUT IT'S, I THINK THERE COULD BE SOMETIMES WE COULD GET HER ON A PRESENTATION AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO MEETING 10 MINUTES, BUT YOU CAN SPEND MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
UH, YOU DON'T WANNA HEAR ME TALK FOR 10 MINUTES? NO, WE WON'T.
UM, LAST ONE, UM, JEREMIAH WARD, YOU GUYS, UM, JEREMIAH OR I'M A RESIDENT IN MIDPOINT 21 TRAIL RIDGE RETREAT.
UM, I'M GOING TO JUST KIND OF ECHO WHAT, WHAT THESE GUYS HAD ALREADY SAID.
OBVIOUSLY THE TRAFFIC IS A MAJOR ISSUE.
IT ALREADY IS AN ISSUE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENT IS ONLY GOING TO INCREASE THAT.
UM, I DO HOPE YOU GUYS KNOW THE HISTORY OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BOUGHT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THEIR HISTORY WITH THE DEVELOPERS, THINGS THAT WERE PROMISED, NOT DELIVERED, EXPECTATIONS NOT MET.
WE FEEL, I FEEL, IN MY OPINION, THAT PULTE HAS NOT NEGOTIATED ORDER DONE ANYTHING IN GOOD FAITH THUS FAR.
UM, WE REALLY FEEL LIKE IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT, UM, WE'RE KIND OF GONNA BE AT THEIR MERCY.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS, A LOT OF, UH, RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THEM.
UH, AGAIN, WITH THE TRAFFIC WITH HOA INCREASES FOR SERVICES THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN ASKING FOR OR HAVE A NEED FOR THIS TIME, IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE MULTIPLIED BY WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD GOES THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD INTO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
IS IT OKAY? PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER.
UM, COMMUNICATIONS FOR MAYOR COUNCIL,
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ANYTHING ON THIS SIDE? UM, NO ARTS AND SEAFOOD FESTIVAL START SUNDAY.THE DEDICATION OF THE UM, MM-HMM
AFTER THAT, WE'RE GONNA BE COOKING SOME OYSTERS AND SHRIMP AND STUFF AT OYSTER FACTORY.
UM, ALL WEEK LONG THERE'S SOMETHING.
SO CHECK THE CALENDAR AND YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON EVERY DAY.
ANYTHING TO SAID MARY O'NEIL HELPS TO SEE THIS COUNCIL AT THE DOCK, THE BLESSING TO THE FLEET IF EVERYBODY CAN MAKE IT.
AND FRED, YOU BETTER BE THERE.
UM, I CAN'T BUILD A BOAT IN THERE TOO.
IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE TOWN NEWSLETTER, IT'S, IT'S A NEW PROJECT THAT THE STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER.
UM, IF YOU LIKED IT, LET THEM KNOW.
IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT, LET THEM KNOW.
BUT THE MAIN POINT IS I HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT AND IF YOU DID RECEIVE IT, LET THEM KNOW BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE FEEDBACK TO KNOW WHETHER TO CONTINUE TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.
I PERSONALLY ENJOYED IT, SO I HOPE YOU DID AS WELL.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO CHANGE? UM, I WAS GONNA MENTION THE NEWSLETTER.
IT WENT TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN.
UM, AND I, I THINK IT'S FABULOUS AND I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT WE SEE FROM IT.
I THINK IT EDUCATES A LOT OF PEOPLE.
WE GO AROUND, WE HAVE MOBILE TOWN HALLS, WE HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA, WE HAVE EMAILS, WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
BUT SOMETHING ABOUT SOMETHING LAYING ON YOUR COUNTER, UM, THAT YOU JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GONNA THROW AWAY BUT YOU PICK UP AND READ.
I REALLY THINK IT'S GONNA HELP WITH OUR EDUCATION OF ALL OF OUR NEW RESIDENTS AND OLD TO KNOW.
MAYBE THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THEY MOVED IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
MAYBE YOU THOUGHT YOU DID MOVE IN, BUT YOU REALLY DIDN'T CUZ YOU LIVE IN ISLAND WEST.
SO WE WANNA DO THIS OFTEN, SO PLEASE RESPOND.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO COMMUNICATE.
LET US KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA HEAR ABOUT BECAUSE I KNOW THE TEAM WOULD LOVE SOME IDEAS IN THE HOPPER.
UM, I SPOKE TO AN OLLIE CLASS, WHICH AGAIN, IF Y'ALL DON'T KNOW ABOUT OLLIE, LOOK IT UP.
LIFELONG LIFELONG LEARNING INSTITUTE.
IT'S OUTTA US C B SO AMAZING PEOPLE TO LEARN ABOUT THE WHOLE REGION.
I I, ONE DAY I'M GONNA JOIN IT, NOT SPEAK AT IT.
UM, WE HAD A PRINCIPAL'S LUNCH.
IS WE STILL HERE? MAYBE HE LEFT.
DAVID DID A PRESENTATION, UM, AND TALK ABOUT IN THE ENTREPRENEURS FOR KIDS.
I WANNA JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU HEAR ON THE STREET AND I DO APPRECIATE KATE, YOU SPEAKING IF STILL HERE ABOUT, UH, THE WELCOME CENTER.
WE VOTED ON TO BE OUR WELCOME CENTER AND IT IS A NONPROFIT, BUT YOU'RE STARTING TO HEAR A LOT OF FALSE INFORMATION AND PEOPLE JUST SAY IT SO THEY BELIEVE IT TO BE TRUE AND YOU BELIEVE THEM AND LIKE THEM.
IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY QUESTION, YOU'VE GOT FIVE OF US AND WE HAVE 155 PEOPLE WITHIN THIS TOWN THAT SOMEBODY CAN FIND YOU THE ANSWER.
AND IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT ON THE WEBSITE, I'VE ACTUALLY WALKED PEOPLE THROUGH THE WEBSITE TO TAKE THEM TO A PLACE TO, TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
SO PLEASE, UM, DO THAT AND BE EDUCATED AND HELP US.
AND THE ALBEIT BLESSING OF THE FLEET ON SUNDAY.
SO, UM, IF NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL
[XI. Public Hearing & Final Reading]
READING.WE HAVE AN ITEM UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND IT'S THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFS.
MUNICIPAL CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE FIVE, WHICH ARE DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, TO INCREASE ADDITION BUILDING TYPE FOOTPRINT AND TO PROVIDE CONSISTENT HEIGHT FOR THE RIVER HOUSE BUILDING TYPES.
UM, WE WILL START WITH PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THERE'S A FIRST CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND CALL FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
THIRD AND FINAL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THERE'S NO CHANGES FROM FIRST READING.
HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION IF YOU LIKE.
I DO HAVE THE, UH, MOTION IN FRONT OF YOU.
Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE FIRST READING? NO CHANGES.
IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF LEFTON? CODE OF ORDINANCES? CHAPTER 23, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE ARTICLE FIVE DESIGN STANDARDS TO INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT UP THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE IN
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THE RIVERFRONT EDGE HD ZONING DISTRICT AND TO PROVIDE A CONSISTENT HEIGHT FOR THE RIVER HOUSE BUILDING TYPE.UM, AS RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING I I.
FORMAL ITEMS, WE HAVE CHRIS FORSTER BECK, UM, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
[XII.1. Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Town of Bluffton Fiscal Year 2023 Budget to Provide to Carry Forward Unspent Expenditures and Encumbrances for the FY2022 Budget to the FY2023 Budget - First Reading - Chris Forster, Assistant Town Manager]
THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET TO PROVIDE, TO CARRY FORWARD UNSPIN EXPENDITURES AND ENCUMBER SUIT FROM THE, FOR THE FY 2022 BUDGET.THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO ABOUT THIS TIME EVERY YEAR.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, SO AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS, UM, OUR MAJOR CLEANUP AMENDMENT AFTER WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CLOSING THE BOOKS FROM THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.
THERE'S ALSO SOME NEW ITEMS IN HERE THAT I'LL BRIEFLY GO OVER AS WELL.
SO THE, THE MAIN COMPONENTS OF THE BUDGET, MAN, THERE ARE SOME BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, SHOW REVIEW.
UM, THERE IS THE USE OF PRIOR FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS YOUR, UH, PRIMARILY YOUR CARRY FORWARD FUNDS.
THESE ARE PROJECTS OR CONTRACTS THAT WERE EXPECTED TO BE FINISHED WITHIN LAS FISCAL YEAR THAT DID NOT.
UM, SO WE CARRY FOR THOSE FUNDS INTO THIS PIS YEAR SO THEY CAN BE COMPLETED.
UM, AND THERE'S ALSO SOME ONETIME EXPENSES OF PRIOR FUND BALANCE AND ADDITIONALLY WE'RE POSING, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE CAPITAL ASSET RESERVE FUND.
SO THIS IS A REALLY QUICK SUMMARIZED LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN FY 22 IN THE GENERAL FUNDS, JUST GENERAL FUND, HOW WE HAD ABOUT 29 MILLION IN REVENUES, 3 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES, UM, IN ADDITION OF $6 MILLION TO FUND BALANCE.
BUT I WILL PREFACE THAT WITH THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, SO AS YOU'LL RECALL, LAST YEAR WE AMENDED OUR FUND BALANCE POLICY AND TO BEEF UP OUR EMERGENCY RECOVERY FUND AS WELL AS OUR CAPITAL ASSET RESERVE AND UNSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
SO THIS IS A, UH, ESTIMATE AT THIS TIME.
UM, BUT CURRENTLY WE HAVE ABOUT 1.3 MILLION IN RESTRICTED FUNDS.
THAT'S PRIMARILY YOUR APA DOLLARS.
UM, THERE'S ALSO THE LEISURE FUND IN THE SMALLER AMOUNT BUT MOST OF THAT IS, UM, YOU HAD YOUR TWO COMMITTED, UH, FUNDS, WHICH IS YOUR CAPITAL ASSET RESERVE.
UM, AS YOU RECALL, WE CHANGED THAT LAST YEAR TO ENCOMPASS ALL OF CAPITAL ASSETS, AND WE ADD TO IT, UH, 50% OF THE PRIOR YEAR DEPRECIATION EXPENSE ANNUALLY.
SO LAST YEAR, DEPRECIATING DEPRECIATION EXPENSE WAS 1.2 MILLION.
SO WE ADDED APPROXIMATELY 600,000 TO THAT RESERVE FUND JUST FROM THE POLICY, UH, UPDATE.
THE EMERGENCY RECOVERY FUND WAS UPDATED TO, UH, INCLUDE 15% OF ALL GOV BUDGETED GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS.
SO THAT WOULD BRING THAT EMERGENCY RECOVERY FUND UP TO 7.9 MILLION.
AND THEN LAST YEAR, AS PART OF YOUR, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, MANAGEMENT PROPOSED SOME ASSIGNED FUNDS.
WE HAVE THE PRESERVATION GRANT, UH, THE PROACTIVE PRESERVATION PROGRAM AND THE TREAT.
AND THAT'S THE REMAINING AMOUNT, UH, THAT ARE IN THOSE ASSIGNED DESIGNATIONS, WHICH LEAVES AN UN UNASSIGNED, UH, FUND BALANCE OF 12.7 MILLION AND THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
AS PART OF THE POLICY UPDATE LAST YEAR, WE SET TO 35% OF BUDGET BUDGETED GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.
UH, SO BY POLICY, THE GOAL WOULD BE 9.1 MILLION.
SO IN THE BUDGET, UH, AMENDMENT, THE FOLLOWING BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS ARE INCLUDED ON THE REVENUE SIDE.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE, UH, A CONTRACT WITH AN ENTITY THAT WILL, UM, LOOK TO IDENTIFY BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENT, CURRENTLY NOT, UH, LICENSED IN TOWN.
UM, THEY DO THIS, UH, ALL OVER THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, UM, AND THE COUNTRY.
AND, UH, BASED ON SIMILAR ENTITIES OUR SIZE, WE EXPECTED TO GET AROUND 200,000 IN, UH, MISSING REVENUE, UH, FROM THAT, UH, EFFORT.
SO WE PUT THAT IN OUR REVENUE SIDE OF THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, WE'RE EXPECTED TO POTENTIALLY SELL, UM, SOME TOWN ON LAND FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IF THAT GOES THROUGH, IT'LL BE AROUND 600,000.
SO THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR, IN YOUR PROPOSAL AS WELL.
UM, USES OF FUNDS, WE HAVE THE CONTRACT EXPENSE FOR THAT REVENUE ENHANCEMENT CONTRACT.
UM, THERE WAS A HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE.
WE HAD BUDGETED 14.2, AND AFTER THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED, THE STATE CAME OUT WITH THE FINAL NUMBER AND THEY INCREASED THAT CONTRIBUTION TO 18.1%.
SO THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF THAT HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE.
AND WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A, UH, ENHANCEMENT TO THE, UH, REVENUE RETENTION PROGRAM IN OUR HR DEPARTMENT.
THIS WOULD BE A, UM, A $250, UH, STIPEND OR GIFT CARD TO EMPLOYEES FOR HOLIDAY MEAL EXPENSES IN STORM WATER.
UH, AGAIN, SINCE IT'S A SEPARATE FUND, WE HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE AND THERE'S A ADDITIONAL TRANSFER TO DEATH SERVICE THAT, UM,
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THE C I P FUND.UM, THE NEW REVENUE OR REVENUE COMING IN IS, UH, EIGHT TAX TRANSFER IN OF FOURS AND 63.
THIS IS THE COVER OF THE ADDITIONAL CONTRACT EXPENSE FOR THE SQUIRE POPE PROJECT.
IT CAME IN ABOVE, UH, UH, BUDGET.
UM, WE ARE HOPING TO, ACTUALLY, I THINK WE DID APPLY ALREADY TO THE AAP COMMITTEE FOR STATE A TAX DOLLARS.
UH, SO IF, IF WE GET APPROVED FOR STATE A TAX, THAT WOULD BE ADJUSTED FROM HEALTH TAX.
THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER IN IS 1.08.
THAT INCLUDES THE SALE OF LAND, UH, AS WELL AS SOME, UH, ONE TIME USE OF, UH, YOUR FUND BALANCE.
AND THAT IS, UM, GOING TOWARDS SOME PARK IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AT DUBOIS AS WELL AS THE NEWLY ACQUIRED, UM, TOM PARK AT BUCKWALTER, THE FORMER EVER CAR PARK, AS WELL AS GENERATOR WORK.
AND, UM, UH, THERE'S SOME, A SMALL PORS 55,000 OF FUND BALANCE.
AND THEN CHANGES IN USES, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD THE TOWN PROJECT AT BUCK.
WALTER COMMERCE PARK'S, OUR ACADEMIC DEVELOPMENT PARK NEAR AT THE LAC, THAT WOULD BUILD OUT THE, UH, THE, THE PARKING LOT THERE AND THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERNEATH IT, THAT ESTIMATE AT 3.4 MILLION.
THE BOUNDARY STREET, STREET SCAPE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
UH, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT PROJECT TIMELINE FOR THAT, UM, THEY WEREN'T GONNA GO OUT TO BID FOR THAT UNTIL APRIL OR MAY.
UH, SO REALISTICALLY CONSTRUCTION WASN'T GONNA START UNTIL NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE'RE DELAYING THOSE DOLLARS AND NOT TYING THEM UP IN THIS BUDGET.
AND THEN FINALLY FAR HOPE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
THE, AS I MENTIONED, THE CONTRACT CAME A LITTLE ABOVE, WOULD'VE EXPECTED, UH, DEBT SERVICE FUND.
AND THIS WAS A, AN OVERSIGHT ON MY PART.
UM, WHEN I WAS BUDGETING FOR THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE TIF BOND, I ESTIMATED DEBT SERVICE BASED ON A 20 YEAR BOND.
UM, FORGETTING THAT WE ACTUALLY ISSUED A 10 YEAR BOND, UM, WHICH MAKES THE, A DEATH SERVICE, UH, MORE BIRD YEAR THAN IF IT WAS SPREAD OUT OVER 20 YEARS.
SO THAT'S JUST ADJUSTING FOR, FOR MY MISTAKE.
SO THEN THE NEXT PART OF OUR BUDGET OR THOSE CARRY FORWARD ADJUSTMENTS.
SO AS I MENTIONED, PART MOST OF THAT IS EITHER, UH, CONTRACTS OR PROJECTS THAT WERE, UH, OCCURRING THAT DIDN'T QUITE GET FINISHED IN LAST FISCAL YEAR AND GOT FINISHED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE HAVE GENERAL FUND OUTSTANDING POS AND CONTRACTS AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, PIECE OF OUR APER DOLLARS 197, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO THAT'S FOR THE DIFFERENT GRANT PROGRAMS. WE, THE NONPROFIT AND BUSINESS GRANTS, AS WELL AS THE POSITION FUNDED AT, UM, AT DR R C.
AND THEN STORM WATER, AGAIN, THE OUTSTANDING CONTRACTS AND TRANSFERRED TO C I P FOR SOME OF THE STORM WATER PROJECTS.
AND THEN THE CARRY FORWARD, N C I P 4.1 MILLION OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IN C I P IS FOR THOSE CARRY FORWARD, UH, PROJECTS NOT COMPLETED AND ONE TIME USE.
UM, WE ADDED $50,000 FOR A LAWNMOWER FOR OUR PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE ADDED A LOT OF PROPERTY, UH, WHICH REQUIRES MORE MAINTENANCE, UH, NEEDS.
UM, WE HAD THE CIP P TRANSFER, WHICH I DISCUSSED PREVIOUS ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
AND THEN, UH, IN THAT CONTRIBUTION OF FUND BALANCE OF 120,000, THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, UH, THAT TRANSFER TO C I P FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS 1.8.
AND THE CAPITAL ASSET RESERVE COMMITMENT, WHICH I AMENDED, UH, MENTIONED EARLIER, WHICH IS 400,000, PROPOSED 400,000.
SO LOOKING AT THE AMENDMENT, UH, THE ORIGINAL ADOPTED BUDGET IS 60, ALMOST 60.5 MILLION.
UH, THE AMENDMENT IS 10.6 WITH A FINAL PROPOSED BUDGET OF 71 MILLION.
ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTION THE QUESTION HELPFUL.
SO JUST WANT ADDED NOTE TO THIS.
THE, UM, THE, THE IN THAT BUDGET IS 10 MILLION IN, UH, THE TIFFON PROCEEDS.
SO IT MAKES IT LOOK EXPONENTIALLY HIGH THIS YEAR, CUZ WE GOT 10 MILLION IN TIFFON PROCEEDS.
WILL YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION,
WELL, AND GOING OVER INDIVIDUALLY WITH US IS REALLY HELPFUL ON THIS.
SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS TO COUNCIL IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY ASKED? OKAY, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ACCOUNT OF BLUFF FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET TO PROVIDE FOR THE EXPENDITURES OF CERTAIN FUNDS, COMMIT ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE CAPITAL ASSET RESERVE FUND, AND TO ALLOCATE SOURCES OF REVENUE FOR SAID FUNDS TO CARRY OVER UNSPENT EXPENDITURES AND ENCUMBRANCES FROM THE 2022 BUDGET TO THE 2023 BUDGET.
SO MOVE THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE THE SAYING AYE.
UM, MOVING ON TO A COUPLE OF THINGS WE'VE ADDED TO OUR AGENDA SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT.
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UM, KIM, I THINK YOU'RE UP FOR BOTH OF[XII.2. Approval to Authorize a Construction Contract to Huss, Inc. for the Renovation of the Squire Pope Carriage House (Fiscal Impact; $1,737,867.00) - Kimberly Washok-Jones, Director of Projects and Watershed Resilience]
THESE APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO HUSS INC.FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE SQUARE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
AS YOU MAY, YOU KNOW, BUT FOR OUR PUBLIC, WE HAVE THE SW POP CARRIAGE HOUSE DOWN AT THE END OF CALHOUN STREET DOCK PURCHASE IN 2017 IN CONCERT WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY RURAL LAND TRUST.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY STABILIZED THAT STRUCTURE AND BASED ON PUBLIC INPUT BEEN COVERED BACK IN 2019, THE USES THAT HAVE MOVED FORWARD AS A MUSEUM IN, IN VISITOR RENTAL SPACE, AS WELL AS SMALL FUNCTIONS AND ADDITIONALLY, UM, OFFICE SPACE AND A WELCOME CENTER IN THE FUTURE.
SO MET DEVELOPED THE PLAN FOR THAT.
BASED ON THIS INPUT, THE STABILIZATION HAS ALREADY OCCURRED.
WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE FINAL RENOVATION AND RESTORATION TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE USES.
AND THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT, WHICH DID COME IN OVER BUDGET, REQUIRING WHAT CHRIS JUST WENT OVER, UM, THIS IS THE SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT WILL BE INCLUDED THAT WILL HELP SUPPORT THIS FINAL ELEVATION THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY MATTERS.
UH, AND WHAT WE DID IS PUT THAT OUT TO BID AND BASED ON THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BID AND THE AD ALTERNATES, HUSS INCORPORATED WAS SELECTED AS THE FIRM WITH WHOM TO CONTRACT AT APPROXIMATELY 1.7 MILLION WITH ALTERNATE WORK INCLUDED THAT STAFF CONSIDERED NECESSARY TO MEET THE VISION BETTER SET OUT AND THE PRESERVATION PLAN.
OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR YOU TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE THIS CONTRACT WITH US FOR THE ASKING PRICE.
PLUS A 10% CONTINGENCY IN HOUSE.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE PROJECT, WHICH YOU MIGHT GET INTO THIS WILL BE IN BUDGET.
ONCE YOU DO SECOND AND FINAL READING OF THE REVISED PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2023, WHICH CHRIS WILL COME BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH WITH IF YOU APPROVE.
OUR NEXT STEPS WILL BE TO GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH US AND SCHEDULE OUR KICKOFF MEETING WITH THEM.
CURRENTLY THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING TO PROCURE SUPPLIES, UM, OBVIOUSLY ANTICIPATING A CONTRACT AND I HAVE PROJECTED A JANUARY ONE START DATE, A YEAR LONG CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
SO THAT WILL, THAT WILL TAKE US TO THE END OF 2023.
AND THEN IN 24 WE'LL FINISH UP ALL THE EXTERIOR HARD SCAPE LANDSCAPE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF TO TWO YEAR PROJECT ON THIS.
ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? YEAH.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SCREEN WHERE YOU WERE SHOWING THE ELEVATIONS THAT HAD THE LITTLE NOTATIONS AND THIS WILL BE A PART OF WHAT STARTS ON THE JANUARY 1ST? YES, MA'AM.
THAT'S THE ANTICIPATED START DATE RIGHT NOW.
AGAIN, EVERYBODY IS STARTING TO LINE UP THEIR SUPPLIES AND, AND HOPING THEY'RE COMING IN.
SO THEY'RE PUSHING BACK THEIR START DATES TO BE REALISTIC.
ANYTHING ELSE MR. ER, ANYTHING ON THIS SPOT? JUST, OH, GO AHEAD FRANCE.
CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT US A HUS IS, WELL, I CAN BECAUSE IT'S IN MY, LET ME THROW IT OUTTA MY STAFF REPORT.
UM, AASS HAS WORKED IN OTHER AREAS WHILE THEY'RE NOT LOCAL.
THEY HAVE ACTUALLY DONE, UM, HAVE COMPLETED HISTORIC RESERVATION PROJECTS, PRESERVATION PROJECTS AND RENOVATION PROJECTS.
AND THEY HAVE THE, THE, THE INTENDED EXPERIENCE THAT WE NEED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH DETAIL YOU NEED.
I I PULLED 'EM UP EARLIER WHILE WE WERE SITTING HERE.
THEY'RE BASED OUTTA CHARLESTON.
THEY'VE DONE SEVERAL PROJECTS IN CHARLESTON, INCLUDING THE WOODROW WILSON FAMILY HOME.
SO THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN DOING SPECIALIZED HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
THAT'S WHAT THEY SPECIALIZE IN.
THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME WORKING WITH THEM.
THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME WORKING WITH THEM.
ONE MORE QUESTION YOU SAID NOW IS OVER BUDGET, BUT BY THE TIME IT COMES BACK, IT BE UNDER EXACTLY WITH THE BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT CHRIS JUST BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU.
AS THAT FINISHES WITH SECOND AND FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE NEXT MONTH THAT CARRY FORWARD, THAT $460,000 THAT IT CAME IN OVER BUDGET WILL BE ENCAPSULATED IN THE NEW REVISED FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET.
SO IN REALITY, WE ESTIMATED THE COST TO DO THIS, UM, RENOVATION LESS THAN THEY BID.
OUR CONSULTANTS GAVE US BASED ON WHEN THE PRESERVATION PLAN WAS COMPLETED.
AND AGAIN, IT'S SUCH A VOLATILE MARKET RIGHT NOW.
THEY CAME IN, THE ESTIMATE THAT WE PUT IT OUT TO BID AND AND BUDGETED FOR WAS OBVIOUSLY LESS THAN REAL MARKET CONDITIONS ARE TODAY AND ONLY SAW TWO BIDS.
SO THAT'S ALL WE REQUIRED IS TWO BIDS.
WE ONLY NEED ONE NECESSARILY AS LONG AS WE FOLLOW OUR
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PROCUREMENT POLICY THAT'S PUT IN PLACE AND WE GET ONE RESPONSIBLE AND RESPONSIVE BID THAT IS QUALIFIED.WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF RESPONSES TO AWARD.
IT WAS POSITIVE THAT THEY WERE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER IN PRICE.
SO IT MAKES US FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THEY WERE WITHIN THE MARKET CONDITION SINCE THEY WERE BOTH WITHIN $2,000 OF EACH OTHER.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS, IS, UM, YOU JUST BID, THEN YOU GET THE ALTERNATE, HOW, HOW DO WE DRIVE THE ALTERNATE? SO THE ALTERNATE WE'RE PART OF THE BID PACKET.
SO THEY WERE PART OF THE BID PACKET.
THEY'RE NOT NEGOTIATING, THEY ARE NOT NEGOTIATED AFTER THE CLOSING DATE OF THE BID.
THERE WERE NO ALTERNATIVES SUBMITTED BY NICK'S HUS INCLUDED.
UM, GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND, OBVIOUSLY WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS IN JUST THE BASE BID AND SAID THAT THEY WOULD REMOVE SOME CROWN, UM, QUARTER AROUND MOLDING, DO SOME 3M FILM ON THE WINDOWS.
I HAVE A LIST OF IT IF YOU'RE CURIOUS WHAT THEY ALL ARE.
AND THOSE WERE ALL WITHIN MET SUGGESTIONS TO DO SO.
WE STAFF DECIDED THAT THAT DEFINITELY WAS A A, ESPECIALLY FOR $89,000 AND STILL COMING IN $30,000 UNDER NICK'S WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION RENOVATION EXPERIENCE WE HAD THAT WE FELT THAT THAT WAS WORTHWHILE LINES THROUGHOUT REALIGNED FOR CHIMNEY FLUS, QUARTER MOLDING.
HOW LONG WILL THIS, UM, PROCESS TAKE? THE INNOVATION THEY, THEY ARE ESTIMATING RIGHT NOW A YEAR, A YEAR CONSTRUCTION.
I REMEMBER GARVAN GARVEY HOUSE IN A YEAR.
IT'S GONNA GET US IN HURRICANE SEASON.
DO WE KNOW THAT THIS COMPANY'S GOING TO SLEEP AT THE HOUSE? LIKE THE COMPANY WHO
WELL, THEY NEED TO KNOW BUT THEY'RE FROM CHARLESTON.
THAT WAS THAT MAN SLEPT IN THAT, THAT HOUSE DURING MATTHEW.
YOU ALL HAVE AN HOUR OR 10 MONTHS.
YEAH, THEY SHOULD BE FOR A LONG.
I'VE KIND OF JUST ANY, ANYTHING ELSE, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS.
I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR ALL OF US TO SEE THAT SOMETHING'S GONNA START IN JANUARY.
UM, AND THIS FINALLY COME TO FRUITION CUZ WE'VE GOT, UH, SARAH RILEY HOOKS NEXT.
SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TOWN MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH HUSS INC.
FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE SQUARE POPE CARRIAGE HOUSE? THE AGREEMENT INCLUDES A COMMITMENT FROM THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FOR SEVEN 1,000,707 $1,737,867 PLUS A 10% CONTINGENCY.
ANY DISCUSSION? UM, JUST FYI, THE GENTLEMAN WHO WORKED WITH US TO BUY THIS, UM, THUS RIGHT PASSED AWAY IN AL IN MARCH AND THEY BROUGHT HIS REMAINS TO BE PLACED IN THE CEMETERY LEFTON CEMETERY THIS WEEK.
SO THEY WERE IN TOWN AND THEY WERE THRILLED THAT THEY, THEY WENT TO THE PARK, THEY SAW CHILDREN AND THAT JUST TEARS TO EYES TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE, SO I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THEIR FAMILIES INCLUDED ON ANYTHING WE DO.
HE WROTE A FABULOUS LETTER AND READ IT TO US AT COUNCIL, HIS SON, UM, WHEN WE AGREED TO BUY THIS PARK.
AND I'D LOVE THAT SOMEWHERE TO BE INCORPORATED, UM, IN THIS.
ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING I OPPOSED, THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
UM, YOU ALSO HAVE A CONTRACT TO JS CONSTRUCTION FOR PHASE ONE DEVELOPMENT, NEW RIVERSIDE BARN.
[XII.3. Approval to Authorize a Construction Contract to JS Construction Services, Inc for Phase 1 Site Development at the New Riverside Barn Park (Fiscal Impact: $3,132,500.50) - Kimberly Washok-Jones, Director of Projects and Watershed Resilience]
LARGE PROJECT, VERY LARGE PROJECT, 37 ACRE NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PROPERTY OUT AT THE ONE 70 CIRCLE PURCHASED IN 2018 FOR CREATING A COMMUNITY OPEN SPACE AND CIVIC GATHERING SPACE.UM, ALSO WE PREPARED THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY IN FISCAL YEAR 19.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT CONCEPTUAL PLAN'S BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU.
AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH AT LEAST THE CIVIL DESIGN.
THIS IS PHASE ONE OF DOING THE URBAN WORK AND THE HORIZONTAL GROUNDWORK BEFORE WE START MOVING INTO ACTUAL PLAYGROUND CONSTRUCTION, RESTROOM CONSTRUCTION AND BARN RENOVATION.
THIS PARTICULAR WORK IS AGAIN, THE CIVIL GROUND WORK IS IN SUPPORT, UM, WITH THE LAND ON WATER CONSERVATION FUND GRANT THAT WAS AWARDING 2021 OF $500,000 PHASE ONE SITE DESIGN WAS COMPLETED IN, POSTED IN AUGUST.
AND IT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING, AGAIN, NOT TERRIBLY SEXY BUT NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MUST GO IN PLACE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
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AS STAFF PUT THAT OUT TO BID, WE AGAIN, WE HAD TWO BASE BIDS COME BACK IN JS CONSTRUCTION WAS FOUND TO BE THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE RESPONSIBLE BID.SO STAFF'S SUGGESTION AND RECOMMENDATION IS AGAIN THAT YOU AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE THIS CONTRACT WITH A 10% CONTINGENCY FOR THE PHASE ONE SITE DEVELOPMENT OUT AT NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PARK.
QUESTIONS? UM, THIS IS EXCITING.
I HOPE AFTER THIS WE'LL BE ABLE TO OPEN THE GATES CUZ THERE ARE A LOT OF YOUNG FAMILIES, YOUNG, OLD, MIDDLE, WHATEVER, ALL AGES IN THAT NEW RIVERSIDE AREA.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO GO AND WE HAVE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA NOW.
SO GO TO OUR C I P IF WE CAN REALLY GET THIS OUT IN A SIGN OR WHATEVER.
CAUSE I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GONNA FINISH AND FINISH FAST QUESTIONS.
IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH JS CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR PHASE ONE SITE DEVELOPMENT AT THE NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PARK? THIS INCLUDES A COMMITMENT FROM THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FROM FOR $3,132,500 AND 50 CENTS PLUS A 10% CONTINGENCY.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATEMENT SAYING AYE.
[XII.4. Consideration of a Resolution Establishing a Public Art Policy – Stephen Steese, Town Manager]
CONSIDERING A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH A PUBLIC ART POLICY AND I ACCOUNT MANAGER IS UP.AND I HOPE YOU'RE SEEING THAT WHAT Y'ALL JUST APPROVED IN THE CARRY FORWARD BUDGET WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, SPEND.
SO APPRECIATE Y'ALL DOING FIRST READING CUZ WE'RE TRYING TO GET THESE PROJECTS GOING.
SO TRYING TO GET SOME OF THAT OUT THE DOOR.
UM, SO IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT, YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION TO CONSIDERATION, RESOLUTION TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTING A, UH, TOWN OF BLUFF AND PUBLIC ART POLICY.
UM, GO THROUGH THIS, UH, FAIRLY QUICKLY.
IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK INTO IT.
I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, THE FISCAL YEAR 2324 STRATEGIC PLAN INCLUDED AN ACTION ITEM TO, UH, ESTABLISH A PUBLIC ART PROGRAM.
UM, THE PROGRAM WAS TO INCLUDE THE INTEGRATION OF PUBLIC ART TO INCLUDE THE SOURCING CONCEPT, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
ALSO OUTLINE INTEGRATION OF ART INTO PUBLIC PROJECTS.
UM, PUBLIC ART POLICY THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, INCLUDES, UM, LOOKING AT FUTURE PUBLIC PROJECTS AND LOOKING PROACTIVELY AT PROCURING ART FOR THE TOWN PROPERTIES AND ALSO THROUGH POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS.
IT WOULD CREATE A COMMITTEE TO ASSIST IN THE POTENTIAL LOCATIONS.
IT WOULD ALSO WORK TO HELP RECRUIT ARTISTS.
IT WOULD ALSO, UM, IS SET UP SO THAT ALL RECOMMENDATIONS, ALL APPROVAL, EVERYTHING ULTIMATELY COMES BACK TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL SIGN OFF.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT IS DONE, THAT'S GONNA BE PUT OUT IN, UH, DEEMED AS ART IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAS THE CONTROL OVER.
UM, WE HAVE ALREADY PARTNERED WITH COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE LOW COUNTRY EARLIER THIS YEAR TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE DONATION FOR POTENTIAL ART PROJECTS.
WE CREATED A PARKS AND PUBLIC ART, UM, SECTION, UM, UH, NONPROFIT OR, UM, FUND TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE, UH, THE GRANTS THROUGH THEM.
AND IT'S BROKEN UP INTO SIX SECTIONS.
EACH ONE KIND OF HAS THEIR OWN PART, SO I'M KIND OF, I'M GONNA TAKE 'EM ONE BY ONE BECAUSE THEY EACH KIND OF IDENTIFIED DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO THE FIRST SECTION OUTLINES THE PURPOSE OF THE POLICY AND THE ANTICIPATED RESULTS OF IT.
UM, ULTIMATELY IT ALSO OUTLINES, UM, THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT WE'D WANT TO CONSIDER.
IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT OUTLINE FOR CRITERIA OF SELECTING A PIECE OF ART, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT STEP BECAUSE WHEN SOMEBODY COMES TO US AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, HAVE THIS PIECE OF ART, I WANNA DONATE IT TO THE TOWN.
WE NEED TO HAVE SOME WAY TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S VALUE, WHETHER IT'S DESIGNED, WHETHER IT'S UPKEEP THE MATERIALS, WHAT, WHAT ALL THAT.
CONSIDER ALL THAT TO CONSIDER BEFORE COUNCIL MAKES A DECISION WHETHER THEY WANT TO TAKE THAT IN AND MAKE IT PART OF THEIR COLLECTION.
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THINGS LIKE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS, LIABILITY.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO GIVE US SOMETHING LIKE, UH, IT'S GONNA HAVE SHARP METAL OBJECTS ON IT, WE MAY NOT WANT TO ACCEPT THAT AS PUBLIC ART.
UM, WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE WE, WE AGREE WITH THE PLACEMENT IN SITTING.
A LOT OF ARTISTS WHEN THEY COME WITH AN IDEA, THEY'RE GONNA SAY, I HAVE THIS VISION FOR A PUBLIC PIECE OF ART THAT NEEDS TO GO AT OSCAR FRAZIER PARK.
IT IS PERFECT FOR OSCAR FRAZIER PARK.
THEN THEY MAY COME OUT AND WANT TO PUT SOMETHING THAT'S AN 18 DESIGNED LIKE AN 18 WHEEL.
WE MAY LOOK AT IT AND SAY, AH, IT DOESN'T FIT OUR AESTHETICS FOR OSCAR FRAZIER PARK.
OR WE MAY HAVE A BETTER LOCATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE THESE CRITERIA IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL AND GOES TO THE COMMITTEE, THAT THERE'S THESE, UM, DEFINED CRITERIA THAT COUNCIL ARE CONSIDERING.
ALSO TALKS ABOUT CRITERIA FOR WHAT WE WOULD NOT ACCEPT A PIECE OF ART.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT OR KIND OF OUTLINED JUST A MINUTE AGO.
UM, TALKS ABOUT COMMUNITY INPUT FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS.
IT IDENTIFIES THE SELECTION METHOD AND FOR, AND HOW WE'RE GONNA PROCURE ARTWORK AND ALSO RECOGNIZES THE POTENTIAL FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
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EXAMPLE, MURALS.WE MAY LOOK AT SOMEBODY WHO HAS A, A PRIVATE BUILDING AND WANT TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT PUTTING A MURAL ON THEIR BUILDING THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH PUBLIC ART OR THROUGH OUR PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE.
SO THERE'S SOME GOOD PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT MAY TAKE PLACE IN THAT.
SO SECTION TWO OUTLINES THE ROLES OF ALL THE PARTICIPANTS.
UH, YOU HAVE TOWN COUNCIL, OF COURSE YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FUNDING.
UM, YOU ALSO WOULD HAVE FINAL APPROVAL OVER ALL ART PROJECTS.
YOU WOULD ALSO APPOINT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND YOU WOULD PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO MYSELF STAFF INTO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.
UM, YOU MAY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO SEE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE PLACES WE'VE TALKED THAT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR ONE OF OUR FIRST PUBLIC POTENTIAL PUBLIC ART PIECES COULD BE AT SQUIRE POPE.
BECAUSE THERE'S A LITTLE CIRCLE THAT'S GONNA BE CREATED OUT FRONT OF THE BUILDING AS PART OF THE HARDSCAPE.
THAT WOULD BE, MIGHT BE AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR SOMETHING TO SIT ON A PEDESTAL THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC ART.
SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL SAYS, WE WANT STAFF AND PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE TO, TO PURSUE THAT.
SO YOUR GUIDANCE IS ALWAYS TAKEN INTO MOVING FORWARD WITH ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
SO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE WOULD BE COMPOSED OF SEVEN MEMBERS.
UM, I DRAFTED THIS SO THAT Y'ALL WOULD ACTUALLY APPOINT THE CHAIR.
THE GOAL WITH DOING THAT WOULD BE SO THAT YOU COULD ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IS BEING RAN TO THE, UM, DESIRES OF COUNCIL.
UM, IF YOU APPOINT SEVEN PEOPLE ON A BOARD, AND WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC ART AND YOU START TALKING ABOUT TOWN DOLLARS, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL APPOINTED THE PERSON THAT SHARED THE VISION AND THE GUIDANCE THAT THEY WANT TO SEE FOR THAT COMMITTEE.
AGAIN, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IF COUNCIL WANTS TO CHANGE THAT OR NOT.
UM, BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS PUT IN HERE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION AND VISION TO THE COMMITTEE WITH THE PEOPLE WITH THE APPOINTMENTS THAT THEY MAKE.
UM, THE COMMITTEE, UM, ANYBODY WHO SERVES ON IT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO PROPOSE ON ANY PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD BE DOING.
WE DON'T WANT, WE DO WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE TIED TO THE ART COMMUNITY, BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST WHERE THEY MAY BE A LOCAL ARTIST WHO WANTS TO BE ON IT, BUT THEN THEY WANT TO BID OR PUT A PROPOSAL OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ART ON.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO CONFLICT DURING THAT TIME PERIOD.
UM, THEY WOULD AGAIN, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL.
THEY WOULD PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON MAINTENANCE OF PIECES.
SO THEY MAY GO OUT AND THEY MAY SAY, HEY, THIS PIECE OF ART THAT THE TOWN ONS LOOKING A LITTLE ROUGH.
YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND CLEAN IT UP OR MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO IT.
AND THEY WOULD HELP US FIND POTENTIAL PARTNERS AND BE ADVOCATES FOR PUBLIC ART.
SO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TOWN MANAGER WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT THIS POLICY AND ALSO COORDINATE WITH TOWN COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AS WELL AS STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING THE GOALS.
UH, SECTION THREE OUTLINES THE MANAGEMENT OF THE MUNICIPAL ART COLLECTION.
SO ULTIMATELY ANYTHING THAT THE TOWN WOULD TAKE THAT WOULD, WOULD TAKE RECEIVERSHIP OF OR PURCHASE WOULD BECOME PART OF OUR MUNICIPAL ART COLLECTION.
SO AGAIN, IT TALKS ABOUT HOW WE ACQUIRE 'EM, IT TALKS ABOUT REVIEWING ACCEPTANCE, PROCESS MAINTENANCE, AND THEN THE PLACEMENT SECTION FOUR OUTLINES THE DEACCESSIONING OF, UH, POLICY AND PROCEDURES.
AND ULTIMATELY WHAT THAT MEANS IS HOW ARE WE GONNA GET RID OF A PIECE OF ART? UM, SO IT OUTLINES CRITERIA FOR REMOVAL WHERE IF THE SITE CHANGES, THE ARTWORK BECOMES DAMAGED, THE ARTIST ASKS FOR IT BACK, OR WE WANT TO MOVE IT TO ANOTHER LOCATION, OR WE DECIDE THAT IT'S NO LONGER APPROPRIATE THAT WE WANT TO DISPOSE OF IT.
SO IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THAT PROCESS, UM, THAT THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS, HOW THAT COMES THROUGH.
THAT COUNCIL, AGAIN, HAS TO APPROVE ANY REMOVAL AND THEN IT WOULD FALL TO THE TOWN AND I SHOULD SAY MANAGER, NOTMAN
UM, SPELL CHECK DOESN'T CATCH THAT.
AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THE NET PROCEED.
SO LET'S SAY SOMEBODY DONATED A PIECE OF ART THAT WE DISPLAYED IN TOWN HALL AND OVER TIME WE DECIDE THAT WE NO LONGER WANT IT.
SO SOMEBODY MAY SAY, HEY, I WOULD LOVE TO PURCHASE THAT PIECE.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THAT? THIS SAYS THAT IT HAS TO GO BACK TO SUPPORT OUR TOWN PUBLIC ART COLLECTION.
SO, UH, SECTION FIVE IS DEFINITIONS AND SECTION SIX WILL ULTIMATELY BE FILLED OUT AS WE BUILD A APPENDIX AND WE OUTLINE THE, THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE.
SO AS WE GET AGREEMENTS IN PLACE, WE WOULD TAKE THAT AND WE WOULD START MAKING THOSE ATTACHMENTS TO THE PUBLIC ART POLICY THAT THIS IS WHAT OUR COLLECTION IS, THIS IS THE AGREEMENTS WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR LOCATIONS AND WORK THAT AS THE, THE ATTACHMENTS FOR THE DOCUMENT.
UM, SO NEXT STEPS FOR COUNCIL, YOU HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, YOU MAY APPROVE IT, YOU MAY APPROVE WITH AMENDMENTS.
UM, UM, THEN ONCE IT'S APPROVED WE WOULD NEED TO ADVERTISE AND ASK FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO APPOINT THE COMMITTEE AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT FUNDING.
UM, SO THAT'S PART CHRIS AND I HAVE KIND OF HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
SHOULD COUNCIL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, UM, THIS MIGHT LINE UP EITHER AS WE MOVE INTO THE BUDGET
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PROCESS FOR NEXT YEAR OR AS WE LOOK AT OUR MIDYEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT TO, TO DISCUSS SHOULD COUNCIL APPROVE IT.IF YOU HAVE EDITS, SOME OF THEM WE MAY NEED TO ADDRESS AND BRING IT BACK FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION.
COUNCIL MAY WISH NOT TO IMPROVE.
COUNCIL MAY SAY YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WE WANT TO TAKE EACH PUBLIC ART PIECE AS SOMEBODY MAY HAVE INTEREST AND BRING IT INDIVIDUALLY.
THE GOAL WITH THIS IS TO TRY TO REDUCE ANY OF THAT IN THE FUTURE AND ALSO BE A LITTLE MORE PROACTIVE.
AND THEN COUNCIL AGAIN MAY WISH TO HAVE NO SUCH POLICY IN PLACE.
QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.
YEAH, JUST IN THINKING IN TERMS OF, UM, MITIGATION ONE, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
I THINK ANY TOWN THAT UH, MAKES A COMMITMENT TO, UM, SHOWCASE IN ART AND UM, EVEN HAVING A SPACE FOR ARTISTS TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES, I THINK IS GREAT.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF MITIGATION, I WANT TO KNOW, UH, HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF, OR CAN WE PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE HERE TO ADDRESS, UM, THE SECURITY OF THESE PIECES IN TERMS OF KNOWING THAT, UH, VANDALS DO EXIST AND THAT BECOMES A, A OCCURRING PROBLEM IN A LOT OF AREAS WHEN IT COMES TO ART? UM, I WANNA KNOW LIKE WHAT WILL THE PLAN BE TO ADDRESS THAT OR SECURING TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT WHEN IT HAPPENS? SO WE CAN, THERE'S NOTHING THERE SPECIFICALLY TO THAT.
I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE MAINTENANCE AND ALSO IN THE REVIEW CRITERIA, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER IS THAT AS PART OF THE SIDING OF IT.
SO WE WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DISPLAYING SOMETHING THAT, UM, IF WE DISPLAY A PIECE THAT WE IS UNDER CAMERA OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS HIGH VALUE, THAT IT MAY BE SECURED IN A CASE OR SOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE SIDING AND MAINTENANCE DISCUSSION THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
TO MAKE SURE, CUZ AN ARTIST MAY NOT WANT TO WORK WITH US WITH A PIECE OF ART THAT THEY'RE AFRAID THAT'S GONNA BE DAMAGED OR BE IN A SITUATION WHERE IT MAY BE, UH, VANDALIZED OR EXPOSED OR TAKEN.
SO WE WOULD MAKE SURE WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
IF YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT MORE SPECIFIC DETAIL, UM, WE CAN DO THAT, UM, PRIOR TO COUNCIL ADOPTING OR WE CAN JUST MAKE THAT PART OF WHEN THE, UM, WE SET REVIEW CRITERIA SET IN PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, WE CAN MAKE SURE THOSE ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
I KNOW, UM, TWO, ONE, UH, SUGGESTION WHILE YOU MENTION THAT IF WE ARE DOING LIKE, UM, MURAL PIECES, IF THAT BECOMES A COMPONENT, A PART OF IT, I KNOW, UM, SOME AREAS ARE SPECIFIC TO THE TYPE OF, UM, PAINT THAT'S USED.
SO IF THEY HAVE TO GO BACK OVER IT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE AS COSTLY OR IMPRACTICAL AS USING ANOTHER, UM, MATERIAL WHERE YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT OPTION.
AND, AND I'LL, AND I'LL TELL YOU A COUPLE PLACES WHERE WE'VE DONE MURALS, WHERE I'VE BEEN IS WE HAVE LOOKED AT MURALS ALMOST LIKE AS HANGING ART, WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO PANELS ON SIDES OF BUILDINGS AS MURAL.
AND THAT WAY YOU DON'T PAINT DIRECTLY ON THE BUILDING.
SO THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO LOOK AT THAT.
SO, UM, BUT AGREE AND THAT THAT'S WHERE WE WANT THAT EXPERTISE FROM THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS THE EXPERIENCE WITH THE, UM, WITH ART AND BE ABLE TO TELL US WHAT MATERIALS OR WHAT THE BEST USE OF IT IS.
THIS IS JUST, UM, UH, A LIVING POLICY THAT WE CAN CHANGE AT ANY TIME OR WHATEVER.
I THINK IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SO MOVING FORWARD AND WE CAN ADJUST TO A LEADER DATE ME ON THIS SIDE.
I THINK IT SHOWS THE TOWNS EVOLVING.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN AS AN ART COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS A LOT OF THINGS ON CALHOUN AND THE OLD TOWN.
FIRST READING WAS FOR RESOLUTION.
SO IT WOULD BE APPROVAL TONIGHT IF, UH, COUNCIL IS INTERESTED.
IF NOT, IF YOU WOULD RATHER REVIEW AND DISCUSS.
WE CAN ALWAYS BRING BACK AT A LETTER DATE, BUT THERE IS A PROPOSED MOTION.
SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT THIS BUDGET WOULD LOOK LIKE? UM, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE REASONS WE'D WANT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IS BECAUSE THEY CAN HELP US IDENTIFY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE AN ASSUMED VALUE OF WHAT SOMETHING MAY COST WHENEVER WE PUT IT OUT THERE.
BUT, UM, IT, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED THEIR EXPERTISE TO HELP US DECIDE.
UM, WE MAY LOOK AT PUTTING, SAY, $50,000 ASIDE FOR THE FIRST, FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC ART TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MAY ACCOMPLISH.
BUT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY TALK TO AN ARTIST AND FIND OUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY WANT TO COME AND DO SOMETHING THAT'S IN BRONZE.
WELL, BRONZE IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
MAY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO COME AND DO SOMETHING AND WOULD, MAY BE CHEAPER.
IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF WOOD, BUT WE REALLY NEED THEM TO HELP GUIDE US ON WHAT THEY THINK THE DOLLAR VALUE MAY NEED, NEED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
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BIT, UM, HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, OPINION ON COMMITTEE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A STAFF LEVEL DECISION AND GIVE IT TO THE COMMITTEE TO, TO PROBABLY MASSAGE, BUT OH, OH, NO DOUBT.
THE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE, THE WAY, JUST TO REITERATE, THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IN THIS, UM, PROCESS ONLY MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
SO LIKE ANYTHING WITH BUDGET, THEY MAY COME BACK AND THEY SAY, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THESE TWO PLACES THAT WE THINK WOULD BE GREAT FOR PUBLIC ART.
UM, WE'RE GONNA PUT OUT AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN IT.
WELL, THEY MAY HAVE SOMEBODY COME BACK AND THEY MAY SAY, I'M INTERESTED IN DOING IT, I'M GONNA NEED $5,000 FOR MATERIALS TO DO THIS ONE.
AND THIS ONE SAYS, I NEED $8,000 THAT'S GONNA COME BACK FOR APPROVAL BY COUNCIL FROM US, FROM Y'ALL.
CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA, CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO SEE THE ACTUAL DESIGN.
WE WANT Y'ALL TO HAVE THE DESIGN AND THE, THE PLACING, THE SITTING.
WE WANT Y'ALL TO HAVE EVERYTHING TO SEE, TO MAKE THAT DECISION, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT UM, IS BEING RECOMMENDED IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL CAN SUPPORT.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHENEVER IT'S PUT OUT INTO THE PUBLIC, THE QUESTIONS CONCERNS, THE COMPLAINTS ARE GONNA COME TO YOU.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE FINAL SAY ON APPROVING ANY PIECE OF ART.
AND THE DOLLAR VALUE ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC FUNDS CAN BE ASSOCIATED TO THIS AS WELL.
UH, CORRECT HOSPITALITY AND ACCOMMODATIONS.
TAX DOLLARS CAN ALSO BE USED FOR, UM, PUBLIC ARTS AS WELL AS DONATIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY FOUNDATION PROGRAM SET UP FOR OUR PUBLIC ARTS.
AS WE HAVE THAT SET UP, JUST A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS AND I IT'LL, AND IT'LL FIT INTO THE NEXT STEPS.
UM, WE DO HAVE A CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION AND I THINK THERE'S A COMMITTEE.
SO THERE'S SOME GOOD PEOPLE WE CAN RECRUIT TO APPLY AND THEY, THEY'RE WEDDING TO FIND OUT WHETHER THIS IS GONNA BE APPROVED OR NOT.
CAUSE I HAVE A FEELING YOU HAVE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE ON THERE THAT WOULD LOVE TO SIT ON.
AND I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT AAC BECAUSE I KNOW OTHER GROUPS HAVE ASKED, OTHER NONPROFITS HAVE ASKED FOR AAC MONEY FOR ART IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
INSURANCE IS JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, DO, IS THERE ANYTHING CURRENTLY OUT IN OUR TOWN THAT'S ART THAT WOULD BE NONCONFORMING TO WHAT YOU WANT? SO I'D MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH CONFORMITY AND I DON'T HAVE AN AN, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING OUT THERE.
I DON'T MEAN WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC ART ANYWHERE AS OF NOW.
I MEAN, THERE'S ONE IN P OF BLUFF RIGHT NOW THAT AAC PAID FOR, SO LET'S MAKE SURE THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONFORMING.
UM, AND THEN WHAT IF SOMEBODY WANTED A COMMISSION, NOT A COMMISSION PIECE.
WONDER IF SOMEONE WANTED TO, UM, NOT CONSIGN, BUT DONATE AN ACTUAL BEAUTIFUL, SAY THE BRONZE KIDS PLAYING ON A TREE, UM, AND THEY WANT TO DONATE IT OR, OR PUT IT ON LOAN.
BASICALLY JUST THINK HOW WE DO THAT.
WOULD WE REQUIRE THEM TO GET INSURANCE? I WOULD.
OR DO WE GET THE INSURANCE? IT'S JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY WILL BE STUPID AND SOMEONE WILL SPRAY PAINT SOMETHING OR HURT THEMSELVES.
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY LITTLE NOTES I WROTE.
YOU SAID YOU WANT US TO APPROVE, UM, THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE POLICY, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE POLICY.
SO THE POLICY WAS IN THE PACKET.
THE POLICY IS WHAT IS OUTLINED WITH THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS HERE.
BUT I THOUGHT YOU WANTED COUNSEL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, IF THEY FELT LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING YOU LIKE TO ADD OR TAKE AWAY.
SO, UM, BASED ON WHAT, LIKE THE COMMENTS THE MAYOR HAD EVEN ON INSURANCE, INSURANCE IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ADDRESSED IN THE POLICY ON WHO'S GONNA ENSURE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS TO CONSIDER AS PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS.
SO I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT, UM, TONIGHT THAT WOULD CHANGE ANYTHING THAT WOULD NEED TO AMEND THE POLICY.
UM, IF, IF I'M INCORRECT TO THAT, I APOLOGIZE.
I, AS WE START WORKING FORWARD AGAIN, AS, UH, COUNCILMAN TIMBER SAID, WE CAN ALWAYS BRING BACK ANY CHANGES.
IF THERE'S SOME, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WE FORGET.
WE CAN ALWAYS BRING BACK ANY, ANY CHANGES.
AND WITH IT BEING A POLICY, IT'S SIMPLE.
SO, SO DOCUMENTING AND THAT WE CAN SAY IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
I THINK EVERYTHING WE HAVE IS
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SARAH? MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE TOWN OF BLESSINGS PUBLIC ART POLICY.
ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING I I OPPOSE THAT'S UNANIMOUS
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KINDLY.I'M SORRY THIS GROUP HAD TO WAIT.
END THE FORMAL, BUT, UM, APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER PLAN
[XII.5. Consideration of Approval of an Amendment to the Master Plan for Midpoint at New Riverside Consisting of +/- 253 Acres of Land Located on New Riverside Road and Zoned New Riverside Planned Unit Development, Kevin Icard – Director of Growth Management]
FOR MIDPOINT AT NEW RIVERSIDE CONSISTING OF PLUS OR MINUS 253 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD ZONE.NEW RIVERSIDE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AS YOU'VE STATED, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE MIDPOINT, UH, AND NEW RIVERSIDE MASTER PLAN.
UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, UM, PROVIDED EXAMPLES OF BOTH THE EXISTING AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
UM, WE'VE ROTATED THESE LAYOUTS JUST, UM, FOR THE SAKE OF BEING ABLE TO SHOW THEM ON THE SCREEN HERE.
UM, SO THE, UH, LAYOUT OF THE UNDEVELOPED AREA OF MIDPOINT, TRY TO DO MY LITTLE MOUSE HERE.
SO ALMOST EVERYTHING FROM, UH, FROM THIS LINE BACK, THIS UNDEVELOPED AREA, AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE AERIAL HERE IN A SECOND.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, IS PROPOSING TO, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DECREASING THE NUMBER OF UNITS, UH, THAT WERE, WAS INITIALLY, UH, PROPOSED IN THIS MASTER PLAN TO A TOTAL OF 498.
UM, AND THAT CONSISTS OF 98 UNITS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
AND THAT'S IN THE, THE PHASE OF PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE TOWN HOME, SOME SINGLE FAMILY, AND THEN A FEW OF THE UNITS RIGHT HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON THIS MAP WHERE IT'S KIND OF BEEN, UM, UM, WIDED OUT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, PALSY IS PROPOSING 400 UNITS OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING SEVERAL AMENITIES INCLUDING LAGOONS, RECREATIONAL AREAS, PARKS, UM, NATURE TRAILS, AND EXTENSIVE SIDEWALK NETWORK.
AGAIN, FROM AN AERIAL STANDPOINT, YOU CAN SEE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IMMEDIATELY ACROSS FROM MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, TO THE EAST HERE IS LAKES AT NEW RIVERSIDE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE, UH, THE HAVEN AND FURTHER UP AUSTIN PARK.
AND THE HERITAGE, AGAIN, THE VICINITY MAP OF THE LOCATION.
THIS IS THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN AGAIN ROTATED, UM, TO BE ABLE TO, TO SHOW ON HERE.
IT'S MORE OF A GRID-LIKE, UM, DESIGN, UH, SMALLER LOTS THAN WHAT THE APPLICANT IS NOW PROPOSING.
UM, AND THEN THAT THEY HAVE THAT ONE ACCESS POINT OFF OF, UH, MAY RIVER, UH, EXCUSE ME, NEW, UH, NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD ACROSS FROM MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL.
THE APPLICANT IS NOW PROPOSING A A A A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DESIGN.
UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED AND HAS BEEN MOVING FORWARD IS THIS SECONDARY ACCESS POINT.
UH, THAT'S A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE WITH, WITH A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST, UH, WHERE THERE WAS ONLY ONE ACCESS POINT, UM, ALONG NEW RIVER REVERSE SIDE ROAD.
THE INITIAL INTENT WAS TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF, OF, OF ACCESSES ON THAT ROAD.
HOWEVER, IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS WHERE YOU HAVE ALMOST 500 HOMES, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS.
UM, THE APPLICANT WAS, UH, THIS WAS NOT PART OF THE INITIAL PROPOSAL.
UH, THEY WERE ABLE TO WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
IT'S THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER THAT OWNS THIS PROPERTY.
SO, UH, WALL CAM DEVELOPMENT OWNS THIS PROPERTY AS WELL AS THIS PROPERTY DOWN HERE THAT'S, UH, KIND OF IN, IN THE WHITE AREA.
SO THEY WOULD PROVIDE THIS SECONDARY ACCESS POINT OUT ONTO NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD.
UM, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, IN AUGUST 24TH, UH, THE UH, PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT THEY WERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATED, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BASED OFF OF THE CURRENT CONDITIONS AND THAT ANY MITIGATION MEASURES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED.
UH, PRIOR TO THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL.
UM, THE, THE LATE ADDITION TO YOUR PACKET PRIOR TO IT BEING SENT OUT WAS ON OCTOBER 5TH, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS PROVIDED.
AND THE RESULTS OF THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WAS THAT, UH, THE NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD AT MIDPOINT BOULEVARD, THAT'S THAT MAIN ENTRANCE.
WERE SAYING THAT, UM, THAT AN EXCLUSIVE EASTBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE SHOULD BE CONSTRUCTED.
CURRENTLY THERE'S ONE LANE GOING OUT, ONE LANE GOING IN.
SO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS NOW YOU WILL HAVE TWO LANES THAT WILL GO OUT.
SO THE ONE LANE WILL BE A LEFT AND THROUGH, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE ONE THAT IS A RIGHT TURN LANE AND THAT RIGHT TURN GETS YOU OUT ONTO NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD HEADING TOWARDS PALMETTO BLUFF.
UM, CLARITY, THE SECOND ROAD, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU JUST SPOKE TO OR IS IT? NO.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT ALTERING THE ROAD THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE, SO THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE RIGHT HERE.
SO AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING THE SECONDARY ACCESS ROAD OKAY.
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE MAIN ROAD.
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THE, THE EXISTING ROAD, CUZ RIGHT NOW IT HAS THE, IT ONLY HAS ONE LANE THAT THAT EXITS.SO THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE TO CONSTRUCT A RIGHT TURN LANE.
SO THEN THEY WILL HAVE A LANE THAT WILL GO THROUGH INTO THE SCHOOL AND TURN LEFT ONTO NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD.
AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE A LANE THAT'LL, THAT'LL TURN RIGHT ONTO NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD.
SO THE LEFT ONE GOES TO THE ROUNDABOUT, THE RIGHT ONE GOES TOWARDS PALMETTO BLUFF.
THE LEFT THAT GOES TOWARDS THE CIRCLE, THAT WILL BE A LEFT OUT AND A RIGHT END.
SO THERE IS A A AND I'LL HAVE TO CONFIRM, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE A CLOSE UP AERIAL.
UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S A LEFT TURN INTO THE SITE RIGHT NOW AND THERE IS A, IF YOU'RE COMING FROM THE CIRCLE, THERE'S ALREADY A RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHAT THIS IS DOING IS IN, SO INSIDE THAT DEVELOPMENT MAP HERE, I DUNNO IF YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE RED.HERE MM-HMM
UM, SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW IS THEY'LL, THAT PART OF THIS UH, APPROVAL IS THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS INTERSECTION.
SO INSTEAD OF ONE LANE GOING OUT, THEY'RE GONNA NOW HAVE TWO LANES GOING OUT.
HOW DO, HOW DO THEY GET IN? SO RIGHT NOW THEY, THERE'S ONE LANE GOING IN.
SO THE ONE LANE GOING IN IS, IS IS JUST FINE.
SO BUT THE TWO LANES, THAT'S THE NEW WHAT? THAT MAYBE THIS WILL HELP.
SO BY PROVIDING THAT SECOND RIGHT TURN LANE IT LANE, IT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES THAT ARE STACKED.
CUZ WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE'S A DELAY OF CARS TRYING TO TURN LEFT.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT BLOCKS THOSE CARS THAT ARE TRYING TO TURN RIGHT.
SO BY HAVING THAT RIGHT LANE, YOU NOW LIMIT THOSE VEHICLES THAT THEY NOW HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN RIGHT AND GET OUT FASTER.
I UNDERSTAND GOING TO THE LEFT, THAT PART I UNDERSTAND, BUT IF I WANTED TO GO HOME INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT, SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A RIGHT TURN LANE ON NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD THAT PULLS OFF COMING FROM THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE TURNING RIGHT IN.
AND THEN THERE IS A LEFT TURN LANE COMING FROM ETTAL BLUFF THAT YOU CAN QUEUE INTO TO GO LEFT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, THAT PULLS YOU OFF OF NEW RIVERSIDE.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT IN NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD.
HOW LONG IS THAT PROPOSED SECOND LANE? WELL, AS OF RIGHT NOW THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT DETERMINED.
UM, SO THAT WILL HAPPEN DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS.
SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD WORK, UH, WE WOULD ACTUALLY WORK WITH A, UM, A TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO CONFIRM THAT WHAT LENGTH THAT NEEDS TO BE.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO WORK WITH BAUER COUNTY, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE JUST TO CONFIRM THAT WE'RE GETTING THE APPROPRIATE LINK.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW THAT THE, THE SPECIFIC AMOUNT IS NOT KNOWN, BUT WE WILL HAVE THAT DURING THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS.
NOW WE'RE GONNA KNOW WHAT WE ARE APPROVING THIS.
WELL YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU WOULD BE APPROVING AND, AND I HAVE THAT HERE IN SOME POTENTIAL CONDITIONS THAT YOU'RE STATING, YES, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, THAT THERE IS A RIGHT TURN LANE THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW FOR THE VEHICLES TO EXIT.
SO BEFORE YOU GO ON THE SECONDARY ROAD, IS THAT SUBJECT TO FIRE AND WHOMEVER TO APPROVE THAT? CUZ IT'S A LOT OF SHARP LEFTS AND RIGHT, RIGHT.
I MEAN IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DISTANCE FROM NEW RIVERSIDE ON THE MAIN ROAD, IS THIS SUBJECT TO I'M JUST, IS IT SUBJECT TO GET GETTING FINAL APPROVAL AND WONDER IF THEY SAY, OH NO WE CAN'T DO IT, WHAT DO WE DO? SO, AND, AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS, I WAS GETTING, WE GET THROUGH THAT MAIN UM, UH, THE, WE JUMPED POINT.
I KNOW, UM, SO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE MIDPOINT BOULEVARD PORTION OF IT, WHICH UNDER PHASE ONE IS TO, IS TO PROVIDE THAT, THAT TURN LANE THAT WE'RE TALKING OUT OUT OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND THEN ALSO DURING PHASE TWO OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FIRST 200 HOMES IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT LANE IS CONSTRUCTED WHEN THEY GET THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S COMING BACK AND THEN CONDUCTING A, A FULL SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS AT THAT POINT TO DETERMINE IF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS NECESSARY THERE.
SO THE FACT THAT THE, THE TRAFFIC, UM,
DO, DO YOU MIND US STOPPING YOU AND ASKING THESE QUESTIONS? I FORGOT ABOUT YES MA'AM.
THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE WITH ME.
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A PRIVATE ROAD.I'VE GOT ISSUES WITH MAKING IN THAT TRAFFIC STUDY IT WAS LIKE COORDINATE WITH MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL.
IT'S NOT MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL'S FAULT THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING MOVED IN.
SO I DON'T THINK MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL SHOULD BE LISTED THERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT GIVES SOME IN INFORMATION THAT THEY ARE GONNA PAY FOR SOME OF THIS RED LIGHT.
THAT'S JUST MY, HOW I READ IT WHEN I READ THE REPORT, UM, HAS P OF BLUFF OWNERS TALKED ABOUT IT CUZ IT'S THEIR ROAD AND IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD.
SO COULD WE NOT SAY THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL GOES UP NOW? CUZ WE ALL KNOW GOOD.
WELL IT'S GONNA WARRANT ONE CAUSE IT IS A PRIVATE ROAD, IT'S NOT A STATE ROAD.
CAN'T WE HAVE ONE INSTALLED BUT WITH LESS SCRUTINY ON IT? SORRY, SORRY.
AGAIN, THIS IS FOR, THIS IS THEY, WE ARE ALL LEARNING AND WELISTEN AND I, THE PEOPLE AT PUBLIC COMMENT HAD VERY GOOD COMMENTS.
SO IT MADE ME THINK OF OTHER THINGS.
SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS THE, THE CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING THESE ITEMS INTO PLACE AND THEN DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS IS WHERE THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THAT ROAD, THE, THE TRAFFIC LIGHT POTENTIAL DESIGN, THE DESIGN OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ON NEW RIVER REVERSE SIDE ROAD, ALL OF THOSE HAPPEN DURING, DURING THAT PROCESS.
THAT'S THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
SO RIGHT NOW IS THE MASTER PLAN AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND THE USING THE REVIEW CRITERIA THAT WERE PROVIDED IN THE REPORT AND THEN MAKING SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.
SO, AND, AND I HAVE A FEW CONDITIONS JUST FROM, FROM HEARING, UH, PREVIOUS DISCUSSION THAT IT, IT MIGHT BE CAPTURING SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THAT.
UM, SO I MEAN AT THAT POINT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT SPEAK ON SOMETHING REGARDING THAT OR IF YOU, I CAN GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION.
HOW MUCH LONGER YOUR PRESENTATION THERE? WELL, I'VE JUST GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT PROBABLY DON'T NEED THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE I LOOKED AT IT, BUT DO Y'ALL WANT HIM TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION? I THINK HE MIGHT ANSWER A FEW OF THESE THAT'S ON OUR MIND.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE SECOND ROAD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK HE'LL ANSWER SOME OF THAT.
GO THROUGH IT AND WE'LL JUST KEEP START.
UM, AND AS A REMINDER, THIS IS, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT.
SO THERE IS ALREADY AN EXISTING APPROVED MASTER PLAN THAT'S OUT THERE, RIGHT? JUST LIKE, JUST TO, JUST TO, SO I KNOW IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHEN LANDINGS AT NEW RIVERSIDE CAME BEFORE US.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT SIDEWALKS ON DRIVEWAYS AND OVERFLOW PARKING AND WE HAVE THAT ABILITY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ASK FOR THEM TO COME BEFORE US RIGHT.
YES, THEY COULD, THEY COULD APPLY FOR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN TOMORROW.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS WE CAN MAKE TO HOPEFULLY MAKE IT BETTER.
SO FIRST ACCESS POINT AND THEN THE SECOND ACCESS POINT IS TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF, OF JUST, IT WOULD BE A SINGLE LANE.
UH, SINCE IT'S SECONDARY IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE A LEFT TURN AND A RIGHT TURN OUT THERE.
AND THEN ALSO JUST CONFIRMING SITE DISTANCE AND STOPPING DISTANCES, UH, WHICH WOULD ALL BE PICKED UP DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, THIS IS A PHASING PLAN AS YOU CAN SEE.
PHASE ONE, UH, THE LINE KIND OF GOES, UH, PICKS UP FOUR OF THESE, UM, UH, BMPS HERE HOMES AS WELL AS THAT CONSTRUCTION OF THAT SECONDARY ACCESS POINT.
THEY'RE ALL LISTED IN THE, IN THE STAFF REPORT.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT 'EM, I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER ANY SPECIFIC ONE OF THEM.
UH, YOUR ACTIONS ARE TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR TO DENY THIS REQUEST.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS DID GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT WAS TABLED IN JULY AND THEN CAME BACK IN FRONT OF THEM AND THEY WERE ABLE TO APPROVE IN AUGUST.
AND THEN I'M ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
THEY CAN ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AS WELL.
UM, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I DO TOO.
I REMEMBER THE, BUT IN A SIMILAR, UH, SITUATION AND HEARING FROM THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR CONCERNS, I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHERE THE APPLICANT IS IN, UM, MAKING THAT MEETING OR SETTING UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THOSE CONCERNS AND ADDRESS THAT AS, UM, MUCH OF WHAT WAS RAISED IS GONNA BE A GREAT IMPACT TO THAT AREA.
I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
WERE YOU TALKING, THAT'S SOUNDS SAYING HOA HOA CONCERN ABOUT THAT STUDY OR IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? MM-HMM.
DO YOU WANNA, YOU WANT YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW LIKE IF, IF THEY'VE MADE THAT, UM, MADE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THAT BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME.
YOU KNOW, THEY ARE, UM, MANY OF THE RESIDENTS, THEY ARE WORKING CLASS, YOU KNOW, AND SO TO IGNORE THOSE CONCERNS
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THAT WILL LARGELY IMPACT THEM, I THINK, UM, THEY'RE CERTAINLY DESERVING OF THAT.SO I COULD, I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING WITHOUT KNOWING THAT UM, THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED OR AT LEAST THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
AND, AND FROM A, FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO KIND OF ALL OF YOU PROVIDE QUESTIONS AND THEN WE GO BACK THROUGH OR DO YOU WANNA DO ONE ONE AT A TIME? I THINK MAYBE, WELL AT LISA'S GOT 30 IT MIGHT HELP IF WE, IF WE ADDRESS, FIGHT THE NOTES FOR STUFF ONE AT A TIME, WE MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME.
YEAH, MAYBE TAKE THOSE NOTES AND THEN YEP.
YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON KEEP EVERYBODY FROM I'M I'M WRITING AS WELL AND WE'LL HELP TO FACILITATE.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS LARRY? YES.
I'VE GOT, UM, ONE QUESTION IS, IS THE WAY I'M UNDERSTANDING IT, THE, THE SECONDARY ACCESS POINT WILL NOT BE BUILT UNTIL WHEN, YOU KNOW, WELL YOU KNOW, THIS ONE, ONE THING WE'RE HEARING AND ONE THING THAT I'D LIKE TO GET CLARIFICATION ON IS THE, THE MAIN ROAD.
THE OTHER FOLKS SAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN MAINTAINING AND TAKING CARE OF IT.
I I'VE READ SOME OF THIS AND SOME OF THIS, SO I WANT SOME ANSWERS TO THAT.
AND I ALSO, I I WISH IF THIS
UM, AND I'M READING TWO WHERE IT SAYS AT THE END OF THIS SECONDARY ACCESS, IT'S A POTENTIAL GATED ENTRY.
SO I, I MEAN I GOT SO MANY QUESTIONS.
IS IT GONNA BE ONE COMMUNITY? IS IT GONNA BE A GATE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT? ALL THESE THINGS I GOT TO HAVE.
AND IT MAY BE TOO MUCH FOR TONIGHT.
OH, I, YOU GOT SAYING AND I'M SURE I'LL HAVE MORE, BUT THAT'S JUST TO START, JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW REAL QUICK, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT STAFF IS ACTUALLY PROPOSING IS THAT THAT ROAD IS CONSTRUCTED AND THAT IT IS COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE FIRST CERT.
SO THEY USE IT AS A HALL ROAD.
THERE'S AN ACTUALLY, THERE'S ACTUALLY AN EXISTING LOGGING ROAD THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW CONSTRUCTION.
THEY'RE GONNA START FOR, FOR A HAUL ROAD AND THEN MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS NECESS NECESSARY.
AND THEN THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WITH THAT, THAT FIRST LEVEL OF ASPHALT, NOT THE, NOT THE FINAL ONE.
UM, THEY WOULD HAVE THAT STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED IN OPERATION PRIOR TO THAT FIRST CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE FIRST HOME.
WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE CONSTRUCTING IT AND THEY'RE USING IT AND IT IS AND IS OPERATIONAL BEFORE THAT FIRST HOME IS IS UM, IS FINISHED.
SO THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE TO BUILD IT FIRST THOUGH.
IT'S JUST, I MEAN COULDN'T WE SAY THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE BUILT FIRST? YES SIR.
YOU SURE? CAN YOU GO IN THERE AND BUILD 200 HOMES? I GET COS FOR ANY 'EM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OR, OR YEAH.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN ALSO MAKE IT BUILDING PERMIT.
WELL IT HAS TO BE JUST NO CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC THROUGH THE MAIN ROAD.
IF THIS GOES TO A, THAT'S THE KEY.
JUST NO CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ON THE MAIN ROAD.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT FEAR OF THOSE ROAD.
DO YOU WANNA, Y'ALL WANNA GO? YOU WANT ME TO JUST ME GOING AND GO? NO, GO AHEAD.
I THINK, I THINK WE'RE ALL HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS SO GO AHEAD.
SO MY QUESTIONS AND YOU CAN AN AGAIN JUST WRITE IT DOWN.
THE PHASING I SAW SAW THE POTENTIAL PHASING SOMEWHERE, BUT DO WE HOLD TIGHT TO THAT AS A TOWN? CUZ I THINK THAT HELPS WITH HOPEFULLY TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH TRANSPORTATION.
THE, UM, STANDALONE COMMUNITY.
I DON'T THINK, AND I'M GOING THROUGH MY MEMORY, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEHIND A EXISTING COMMUNITY AND THEN SOMEONE DECIDE TO GATE IT AND YOU CAN AND YOU GOTTA HAVE ACCESS.
I GET THAT, BUT CAN COUNCIL SAY NO GATES IS THAT COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO DO THAT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THERE IS GONNA BE A LIGHT I WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE AS A MOTION THAT THAT LIGHT GOT IN AND IT'S AT THE DEVELOPER'S COST AND THEY'D HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM SOUTH STREET.
THE TREE ORDINANCE HAD, DID WE UTILIZE OUR NEW TREE ORDINANCE ON THIS? UM, THE TIMING.
SO WE MIGHT FIND THAT THEY CAN'T, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS BEFORE WE KNOW.
I WISH WE COULD FLIP THIS AND KNOW A LOT OF THINGS BEFORE WE SAY YES.
IT'S VERY CONFUSING AND WE'RE ALL LEARNING.
UM, CONSTRUCTIONS THE VEHICLE, CONSTRUCTION, THE TIMING OF WORK, ALL THESE THINGS.
I WANNA SAY, CAN WE, CAN WE PUT THIS IN?
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UM, I DO NOT LIKE THE GATE.IN A COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE NOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA USE THEIR ROAD AND THESE PEOPLE CANNOT USE THEIR AMENITIES.
THIS IS THE SAME DEVELOPER WHO DID THE LANDINGS, AND I KNOW WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT OVERFLOW PARKING.
AND I GO THROUGH THE LANDINGS AND I THINK WE MADE REALLY GREAT DECI DISCUSSION.
I MEAN, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT BECAUSE YOU DO FIND MORE FAMILIES HAVE MORE THAN TWO CARS AND THEY USED THAT GRAVELED OVERFLOW AT THE LANDINGS.
AND IF Y'ALL WANNA REMEMBER IT RIGHT THROUGH THERE, CUZ I, AND THEN WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE SIDEWALK DIDN'T GO INTO THE PADS, OR ARE WE REMEMBERING THAT AS A STAFF? I DON'T SEE THAT DETAIL ON THIS.
LIKE WE SAW AT, UM, AT BOTH SHELL HALL AND LANDINGS.
AND THERE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE OVERFLOW PARKINGS THERE ON THIS, ON THIS PLAN.
IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT THERE'S SMALL, THERE'RE SMALL INDENTATIONS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING AROUND THE AMENITIES CENTER.
AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE'S A FEW OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE THERE WOULD BE SOME, AND I JUST DIDN'T SEE THE PARK LIKE WAS IN THE OLD PLAN.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING CAN BE DONE BETTER, BUT THE WAY IT WAS GRIDED OUT, IT WAS JUST NICE TO SEE THAT PARK.
I KNOW OUR STORM ORDER DESIGN GUIDELINES, THAT STUFF, THIS DOESN'T SHOW THAT ACTUAL PLACEMENT OF THE LIVES.
I TRULY THINK I THESE HOMEOWNERS ARE CORRECT.
YOU LOSE YOUR NEGOTIATING POWER WHEN THINGS ARE VOTED ON.
AND I THINK THEY NEED TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THEIR STUDY.
THIS COULD BE DONE WITHOUT OUR VOTE, BUT THIS CAME BEFORE US, SO WE GET TO TRY TO MAKE RIGHT A LOT OF WRONGS.
ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I GOT, KEVIN.
THIS, THIS DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT.
UM, THE COMPLAINTS IN PUBLIC COMMENTS SAID THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION.
WHY WAS THEY COMMUNICATION? WHY DIDN'T STAFF SIT ON COMMUNICATION? UM, I WILL STATE THAT AT THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS, STAFF DID HIGHLY RECOMMEND TO THE APPLICANT TO HOLD A MEETING.
I DID NOT ATTEND ANY MEETINGS.
SO WE GET TO, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
AGAIN, I THINK Y'ALL COVERED MOST EVERYTHING.
UM, AND THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, UH, ARE IMPORTANT.
AND, UH, WE DID LISTEN TO MR. KIL AND HIS WIFE AND, AND THE OTHERS, BUT WE ALSO, UH, MAYOR RESPONDED TO MR. KIL.
SO WE DID TAKE THOSE CONCERNS IN TONIGHT.
AND, UH, ONE OTHER QUESTION, TWO OTHER QUESTIONS.
ONE WAS, AND THIS IS A MEMORY ISSUE FOR ME.
I'M THE, WHEN WE CHANGED THE UDO A LONG TIME AGO, WHAT WAS OUR MINIMUM LOT SIZE? UM, I WILL STATE THAT THE LIT MINIMUM LOT SIZE DOES NOT, UM, FALL UNDER THIS DOC.
THIS, SO THIS IS UNDER A DIFFERENT REGULATION.
CAUSE WELL STILL FOR, FOR INFORMATION, WHAT WAS THE, UM, 50 55? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS THESE, THEY WERE PROPOSING 45.
SO THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN SAY ABOUT THIS'S, WHAT YOU'RE INDICATING.
UM, THE OTHER PART IS, UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, RDS LEFT OVER AND IF THEY'D LIKE TO, UH, CONTRIBUTE SOME OF THAT BACK TO OUR BANK, WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
UM, THEY WANT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY IN SOME WAY AND GOT 69 UNITS.
I'M SURE THEY'LL TRY TO APPLY THEM SOMEWHERE, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS OPENMINDED TO GOODWILL.
UM, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
THE SECONDARY ROAD IS THE MAIN PRIMARY ISSUE TO ME.
UH, AND THEN THE OTHERS ARE ALL GOOD AS WELL.
AND, UM, DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE JUST A QUICK RECAP OR, I, I BELIEVE IT WAS VERY CLEAR, UM, TO THE APPLICANTS, SOME OF THE CONCERNS, UM, WAS THE RESIDENTS, UM, WITH THE, THE MEETINGS WITH THE POA, UH, A LOT OF IT DEALING WITH THE SECOND ENTRANCE, UH, THE MAINTENANCE, UM, NO CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, UH, CONCERNS WITH THE LOCATION OF THE GATE, UM, CONCERN THAT MAKES SURE THAT, THAT, UH, THE SECONDARY ROAD IS INSTALLED FIRST, UH, BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, THAT THE, UM, UH, THAT THIS IS KIND OF BREAKING IT UP AND NOT NECESSARILY A STANDALONE COMMUNITY ANYMORE.
UM, THERE'S CONCERNS AGAIN, OR THE GATE, THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
UH, YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT GO IN
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AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DEVELOPMENT, TIMING OF, UH, VEHICLES AND THE CONSTRUCTION.UM, CONCERNS ABOUT THE AMENITIES.
UH, YOU DON'T SEE A, A PARK, UH, LIKE YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN.
UH, THE PLACEMENT OF THE LOTS.
UM, THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION WITH, UM, WITH THE APPLICANTS AND THE HOMEOWNERS.
UH, CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC WERE, WERE HURT, UH, BY TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, POTENTIAL, ANY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS LEFT OVER, UH, GOING BACK TO THE TOWN AND AGAIN, THE ROAD ISSUE.
ON AT THE, AT THE, UM, I GUESS THE AMENITIES CENTER, YOU WERE SAYING THERE WERE OVER FULL OF PARKING POSSIBLY THAT COULD BE THERE.
IN MY POA YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE PERMISSION TO PARK AT THE, UH, AMENITIES CENTER, UM, WITHOUT, WITHOUT ASKING FOR PERMISSION FOR OVERNIGHT PARKING IS.
SO THIS IS, THAT'S NOT A GREAT PLACE TO COUNT OVERFLOW PARKING.
THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD ON THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, WHO ARE ALL THE PLAYERS IN THAT DECISION MAKING PROCESS? IT'S NOT JUST US, IT WOULD BE, UM, SOUTH STREET PARTNERS, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE THE OWNERS, UM, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, UH, BOTH.
WHAT'S WHAT'S NECESSARY? UH, SO TOWN COUNCIL, TOWN STAFF, UH, WE WOULD ALSO LOOK TO, UH, BEAUFORD COUNTY, UH, TRANSPORTATION STAFF FOR, FOR GUIDANCE.
UM, WORKING WITH OUR, UM, EXECUTIVE TEAM, UM, THE TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, JUST TO CONFIRM THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING, UH, EVERYONE TO THE TABLE.
AND I, I BRING THAT UP JUST SO WE SH YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE AT, WE'RE SAYING WE WANT IT, BUT THEN WE NEED TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF THESE OTHER INDIVIDUALS, I WOULD THINK BEFORE WE JUMP.
CAN I ASK A PROCESS QUESTION? WHILE YOU'RE GETTING THAT KEVIN, AND MAYBE IT'S A TERRY ANSWER.
WE CHANGE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE SEE WHERE WE CAN FLIP FLOP ANNEXATION.
DO WE BRING IT TO US BEFORE WE EVEN ENGAGE? OR WHAT'S OUR APPETITE FOR THAT ON THIS? IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO GO THROUGH THE TREE CUZ WE'RE PROVING SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT COULD BE BUILT? AND I, AND IS THERE NOT A WAY TO GO THROUGH THE TREE, THE ROAD LAYOUT, TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL'S LOOKING AT EVERYTHING RATHER THAN BOATING? I'M LOOKING, I'M ASKING.
YEAH, IT'S PO IT'S, IT'S POSSIBLE I WOULD LOOK TO TERRY FOR, UM, JUST THE, JUST WHAT EXACTLY HOW WE CAN DO IT.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THE PROCESS IS OUTLINED IS THAT THE MASTER PLAN IS STEP ONE.
SO THEY'RE ASKING TO AMEND THE MASTER PLAN.
AFTER YOU HAVE THAT APPROVAL, THEN YOU GO TO STEP TWO, WHICH IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND THAT'S WHERE IT LISTS OUT WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT STATES, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TREE AND TOPO AND ALL OF THAT.
CERTAINLY YOU CAN ASK OTHERS HAVE PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION AT THE START.
UM, SO I, I THINK YOU CAN ASK FOR IT, UM, TO GO THROUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE CONTINGENT APPROVAL OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THAT DETAILED LEVEL OF THAT.
I'M, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW IT WOULD WORK, BUT I WOULD THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST THAT NOT SECOND PROJECTS THAT WE'RE UTILIZING OUR TREE ORDINANCE, UM MM-HMM.
I JUST, I GUESS WE HAVE RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, IT, THINGS ARE DIFFERENT THAN 10 YEARS AGO.
WE HAVE RESIDENTS HERE, RIGHT? WRONG OR INDIFFERENT, MAY HAVE KNOWN THAT WAS GONNA BE DEVELOPED, MAY NOT.
WHO KNOWS WHAT PEOPLE TELL 'EM.
SO I JUST, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE VOTING ON THE MAYBE'S CONDITIONED UPON, BUT WONDER IF NOT, AND THEN WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT LEAVE THINKING THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
I JUST THINK MORE INFORMATION FOR US ON MIGHT, MIGHT I ADD THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S, IT'S UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT MATURITY OF IT WAS ACTUALLY CLEARED, UM, ABOUT 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO.
SO, UH, THERE ARE SOME TREES ON THE, ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION, UM, UH, THROUGH, THROUGHOUT HERE THERE ARE FEW TREES, UH, THAT ARE OF SIGNIFICANCE.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WAS KIND OF JUST HAS GROWN BACK OVER TIME, SO, GOODNESS.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD TRY TO FIND AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WORTH SAVING.
UH, AND THERE ARE SOME, UM, THROUGHOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BUFFER, THE NEW TREE ORDINANCE WHERE THE BUFFER, YOU CAN'T COUNT TREES IN THE BUFFERS.
SO IF THERE ARE NO TREES TO COUNT, DON'T WE MAKE THEM PLANT TREES? YES.
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THE MAYOR'S CONCERN ABOUT THE GATED, THE GATED COMMUNITY.UM, I'M NOT SURE I FOLLOW, WHAT, WHY WOULD A GATE, UM, NOT BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT RENT TWO GATES? YEAH.
SO THE GATES, NOW IF, IF I COULD, UM, WHEN, WHEN THIS PLAN WAS, UM, WAS, UM, DESIGNED, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE WE HAVE POTENTIAL GATE LOCATION OUT AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
SO STAFF HAD THE FORETHOUGHT TO SAY LIKE, LISTEN, WE, WE REALLY FEEL THAT IF YOU, IF YOU ARE TO PUT A GATE, ANY GATE SHOULD BE LOCATED HERE AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
NOW, AGAIN, DURING, DURING THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION DESIGN, WE'VE DESIGNED TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT WORKED PROPERLY IF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO, IF THEY COULDN'T GET THROUGH THE GATE, THAT THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, TO TURN AROUND AND, AND, AND GET BACK OUT.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE DURING DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS.
BUT WE MADE SURE FROM THIS ACCESS POINT HERE, THAT THAT GATE WOULD BE LOCATED.
AND BY HAVING IT AT THIS FURTHER BACK, YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY PREVENTING ANY OF THE RESIDENTS FROM, FROM THEY'D HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST FURTHER BACK HERE.
SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO HOMES ON THIS PORTION OF THE ROADWAY.
THE EXISTING RESIDENTS CAN DRIVE THROUGH THAT GATE, YOU'RE SAYING? YES, THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT.
WELL, WHERE'S, THERE WASN'T A GATE AT SHELL HALL AND THAT IT WAS INTENDED.
AND THEN MA'AM, THERE IS A GATE, AND NOW PINECREST CAN'T GO THROUGH SHELL HALL'S GATE.
SHELL HALL CAN GO THROUGH PINE CREST IN THE SAME THING WITH FOUR SEASONS IN CYPRESS RIDGE.
AND IF YOU HAVE A GATE, THE FEES ARE MORE AND THEY'RE GONNA ASK MORE FOR HOUSING.
AND I FEEL SORRY FOR RESIDENTS.
I, IT'S EITHER ONE COMMUNITY, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST DON'T, I DON'T LIKE GATES, PERIOD.
BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL THOUGHT.
BUT MY REASONING WAS IF IT'S THERE, THEN RESIDENTS WHO ARE NEW ARE GONNA USE EXISTING RESIDENTS WHO ARE PAYING FOR THEIR ROAD MAINTENANCE, USING THEIR ROADS, AND THERE'S NO ABILITY FOR ALL THE ROADS TO BE IN.
DOES THAT BELONG TO MIDPOINT, UH, POA IT'S TURNED OVER TO THE RESIDENCE.
ALL, ALL, ALL OF THE ROADS IN THIS LOCATION ARE, ARE GIVEN EASEMENT FOR THAT ROAD TO BE USED FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WHEN THEY OBTAINED IT.
NOW, MY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS, THERE'S AN, THERE'S AN EASEMENT TO ALLOW BECAUSE THIS, THIS SITE, AGAIN, THIS WAS AN APPROVED MASTER PLAN.
SO THERE WAS ALWAYS THE INTENT OF THIS ROAD BEING, BEING USED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE, THE, THE LEGAL ASPECT OF IT ALLOWS FOR, FOR THAT ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS ROAD.
NOW, I, I THINK ONE OF, SOME OF THE CONCERNS ARE, AND THAT'S FOR THE APPLICANT TO, TO SPEAK ON, IS THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT ROAD.
WHO, WHO TAKES OVER THE OWNERSHIP OF THAT ROAD? DOES THE POA ABSOLVE INTO A NEW POA? UM, DOES THAT ROAD THEN GET TAKEN OVER BY THIS, THIS NEW POA? AND THEN EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.
SO, AND THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE POA, WE NEED TO HEAR.
CAN WE HAVE THEM COME UP ADDRESS APPLICANTS HERE, UH,
YOU CAN FOLLOW AND SEE IF EVERYTHING'S, IF YOU'VE TAKEN NOTES MOVING.
KEVIN, YOUR, YOUR LAST COMMENTS ABOUT THE ROAD I THINK ARE, ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, YOU DIDN'T BRING ALL THAT UP A MINUTE AGO AND I THINK WHAT YOU JUST SAID, UM, DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED AND LOOKED INTO.
DO YOU HAVE YOUR NOTES? WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NOTES.
UH, WANNA START BY, UH, ONE THANK Y'ALL, UH, FOR TONIGHT AS WELL AS PLANNING COMMISSION THAT'S WORKED WITH US DILIGENTLY AND STAFF ON THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US TO GET TO THIS POINT.
UM, YES, WE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS AND I WANT TO GO AND CLEAR UP A FEW THINGS THAT, THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR, UM, FIRST LET'S START WITH THE GATE.
I DID REACH OUT TO THE HOA MANAGER LAST WEEK TO LET THEM KNOW OF OUR INTENTIONS BEFORE WE ENDED UP MEETING WITH STAFF THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND HAVING THE GATE TO THE VERY FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY.
THAT WAY ALL THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE BEHIND THE GATE AT THAT POINT.
ALSO, WHEN IT COMES TO THE MIDPOINT BOULEVARD, YES THERE WAS AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S IN PLACE.
THAT EASEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS IN PLACE
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WAS DEFINITELY NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE MIDPOINT POA RESIDENT.THERE WAS NO MAINTENANCE, NO NOTHING THAT THAT WAS ENTITLED INTO.
SO ANYBODY THAT PURCHASED THAT BACK SECTION HAD EGRESS AND INGRESS THROUGH THAT, THROUGH THAT MAIN ROAD WITHOUT HAVING ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MAINTENANCE.
WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE HOA MULTIPLE TIMES AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW DRAWING UP A NEW EASEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THEM.
ONCE AGAIN, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LAID OUT.
WE'VE TOLD THEM FROM THE BEGINNING WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT, THAT PTY WILL TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MIDPOINT BOULEVARD AS WELL AS ALL THE MAINTENANCE STORE AND THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD UNTIL THE LAST HOME IS BUILT.
ALSO, WHEN THE GATE IS MOVED TO THE FRONT, IF THEY AGREE TO HAVE THE GATE AT THE FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY, THAT WILL BE NO CHARGE TO THEIR POA.
SO NO ADDITIONAL FEES WILL BE, PTY WILL MAINTAIN THE, THE ELECTRIC, EVERYTHING THAT THE GATE INSTALL, EVERYTHING THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THAT GATE.
ONCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS COMPLETE AT THE END AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE EASEMENT GOES DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN, THAT THEN NOW THE SHARE WILL BE PTY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE COMMUNITY.
400 HOMES BACK THERE, THERE'LL BE 80% OF THE MAINTENANCE DOWN MIDPOINT BOULEVARD.
NOW AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT NOW MIDPOINT BOULEVARD POA HAS, THEY MAINTAINED A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE MAINTENANCE DOWN THAT ROAD.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALSO THE CONCERN WAS THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC.
WELL, BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC AND YOU KNOW, OF COURSE TALKING WITH THE STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION, WE WENT BACK AND WE WERE ABLE, LUCKILY WE DON'T GET TO SEE THIS TOO OFTEN, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE A SECONDARY ENTRANCE INTO THE COMMUNITY.
SO NOW THAT SECONDARY INTEREST, ALL THE, ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THAT COMMUNITY WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT SECONDARY ENTRANCE IN THERE.
AGAIN, THE REASON PRIMARILY FOR THAT AS WELL ON THE FRONT SIDE OF IT, IS TO TAKE THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC OFF OF POINT BOULEVARD BECAUSE WE DID HEAR THE RESIDENCE AND WE DID HEAR THEIR CONCERNS OF WHAT THEY HAVE.
SO THE BULK OF THAT TRAFFIC COMING DOWN AT THE BEGINNING WILL BE COMING DOWN THE SECONDARY ACCESS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THE ROAD COMPLETION UP UNTIL THE FINAL GRADE, YOU KNOW, TO LAST HOUSE.
WE PUT THE FINAL GRADE ON THE ROAD.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO A FINE POLISHED ROAD WHEN WE GOT TONS OF CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC GOING OVER TIME.
ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT THE FINAL HOUSE AND THE FINAL STAGE TREE? STAGE ONE, PHASE ONE.
SO THE CO SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, ALL THE RESIDENTS, LET'S SELL THE RESIDENTS IN MIDPOINT.
IN THE FIRST PHASE, THEY'VE ALL BEEN DOING THE SAME ACCESS COMING IN AND OUTTA THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THE SECONDARY ENTRANCE, BY THE TIME WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL BE RUNNING ALL THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC DOWN THE SECONDARY ENTRANCE FOR ESPECIALLY THE SITE WORK, ALL THE HAULERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, GOING DOWN THAT, SO IT WILL NOT BE COMING DOWN THE MIDPOINT ROAD BOULEVARD.
NOW WHAT THAT BEING SAID, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS BY THE SECOND, OR BY, I'M SORRY, BY THE COMPLETION OF THE CO FOR THE FIRST HOME THAT WE HAVE FIRST RESIDENT AND THAT SECOND PHASE, THAT ROAD WILL BE COMPLETE EXCEPT FOR THE TOP FINAL LAYER OF THAT ROAD.
IT WILL BE ASPHALT, BUT IT WILL NOT BE THE FINISHED ASPHALT.
THAT WILL BE DONE AT THE VERY END ONCE ALL CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE DOWN.
BUT THE ROAD WILL BE ACCESSIBLE AND IT WILL BE ABLE TO, FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GO ON AND OFF OF IT, WHICH IS REALLY TYPICAL CUZ WHICH IS CORRECT.
I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID AT THE COMPLETION OF YOUR PHASE ONE.
SO THE COMPLETION OF A WHILE AGO WHERE WE HAVE IT'S TWO PHASES, RIGHT? RIGHT.
ACTUALLY IT'S BROKEN UP INTO MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE PHASES ON THERE.
SO THE ROAD WILL BE USED, THAT'S IT.
RIGHT? ALL OF CONSTRUCTION WILL GO THROUGH THERE.
IS THAT CLEARLY STATE THAT, JUST TRYING TO JUST SO IAND YEAH.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, YEAH, YEAH.
SO ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION WILL GO THROUGH THE NEW ROAD.
THE ROAD'S GONNA BE BUILT BEFORE YOU START DOING ANYTHING ELSE BACK HERE, RIGHT? CONSTRUCTION GO DOWN THE ROAD.
NOW IF IT WANTED TO, THERE IS A ROAD THAT IS IN PLACE THAT'S THERE NOW.
IT IS A ROUGH DIRT ROAD, YOU KNOW, IT'S A ROUGH ROAD, BUT WE'RE GONNA CLEAN THAT UP AND MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S USEFUL AND YES, THAT IS THE, THE DIRECTION AND THE INTENT FOR THAT SECONDARY ACCESS.
SO WHEN, WHEN YOU JUST SAY YOU BUILD A HUNDRED HOMES IN HERE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE OR BUY THOSE HOMES, CUZ I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BUILD FIVE AND SELL FIVE OR, OR YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU'RE GONNA BE SELLING AS YOU GO.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA WAIT UNTIL YOU BUILD 200 HOMES TO SELL EM.
OUR BUSINESS MODEL, WE WANNA SELL HOMES, RIGHT.
UM, SO YEAH, ACTUALLY THE CEO OF THE FIRST HOME.
SO WHEN WE RECEIVE CO OF THE FIRST HOME AND THAT NEW RESIDENT GOES TO MOVE, THAT FIRST RESIDENT GOES TO MOVE INTO THAT HOME, INTO OUR SECTION, YES.
THAT'S WHEN THAT ROAD WILL BE COMPLETE.
SO NOW EVERYBODY STARTING FROM EVEN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE FRONT WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS.
UM, YOU SAID THAT AFTER COMPLETION THAT Y'ALL WOULD MAINTAIN 80% OF THE MIDPOINT BOULEVARD? YEAH.
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AFTER, AFTER ALL THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE COMING DOWN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOLD OUT AT THAT POINT, UNTIL THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UNTIL WE COMPLETE THE WHOLE SECTION, WE'RE GONNA MAINTAIN ALL OF MIDPOINT BOULEVARD 100% DURING THE CONSTRUCTION UNTIL WE SELL THE LAST HOME NUMBER HOME 400 OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.WHENEVER WE SELL THAT FINAL HOME, THEN IT WILL REVERT BACK TO THE, TO THE WHOLE POA AND THEN IT'LL BE DISTRIBUTED RATIONAL.
SO EVERY HOME WILL AT THAT POINT.
SO ARE WE GONNA HAVE TWO POAS? WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE AGAIN, THE POAS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
THEY'RE THE LEGALITIES OF THE POA.
THEY HAVE THEIR COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS FOR THE FRONT SECTION.
WE ARE A SEPARATE COMMUNITY, SO IT'S, I HAVE A DIFFERENT NAME BACK THERE TOO.
WELL WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, WHETHER IT SHOULD BE A DIFFERENT, LIKE YOU GO INTO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU HAVE AN PALO BUS, BRAZIL, YOU GOT LITTLE SECTIONS OF IT THAT YOU HAVE THAT, THAT MIGHT BE THAT SPECIFIC LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.
SO WE COULD HAVE THAT IN THERE.
BUT THERE ARE, IT WILL BE TWO STANDALONE POAS.
NOW, IF THERE'S ANY CALL SHARING THAT'S IN PLACE, THE POAS, AND THIS IS WHERE THE ATTORNEYS COME IN WITH THEIR LANGUAGE AND THE AGREEMENTS AND THINGS TO MAKE SURE WHO'S GONNA PAY WHO FOR WHAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE MAINTENANCE GOES.
BUT MOST LIKELY HOW WE'VE DONE THINGS IN THE PAST, PULTE WILL MAINTAIN AS THE, THE, THE PRIMARY PARTY THAT HANDLES ALL THE MAINTENANCE, CONSTRUCTION, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN USUALLY THE SMALLER POAS WILL PAY THEIR PORTION OF WHAT THAT MEANS INTO THE PTY ASSOCIA OR THE PTY ASSOCIATION.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT, LIKE I SAID, THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA HOLD UP A, A CONSTRUCTION AS WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THESE DETAILS CUZ THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE POS AND THAT GOES BACK AGAIN, I CAN PRESENT ANYTHING TO THEM.
THEY HAVE TO VOTE ON IT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE, THEY HAVE TO, AND IN READING THEIR, THEIR COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS, THE VOTES THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IF THEY CAN EVEN DO IT.
SO THAT'S BEEN SOME OF THE HOLD UP ON THIS AS WELL IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO THE BOAT TO BE ABLE TO, TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT THEY WANT.
WE'RE, WE'RE EVEN OFFERING A, UM, A PROPOSAL TO THEM TO WHERE THEY CAN, THEY CAN BUY INTO THE AMENITY PACKAGE.
BUT AGAIN, TO BUY INTO THAT AMENITY PACKAGE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS EVERYBODY'S GOTTA PAY.
IF YOU'RE ON AN HOA, OF COURSE EVERYBODY PAYS A PORTION TO BE IN THE, TO BE PART OF THE AMENITY.
SO WHEN, WHEN DID YOU START THIS COMMUNICATION? I THOUGHT YOU SAID HIM.
THIS COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN, IT WAS A, UM, THIS COMMUNICATION STARTED ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO AND I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE PACKAGE.
I PRESENTED EMAILS, DOCUMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FROM THE COMMUNICATION THAT WAS REQUESTED.
WE ALSO DID HAVE A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP THAT WE MET ACROSS THE WAY.
SO THAT IS IN FACT WE DID HAVE THAT COMMUNITY.
HOW, HOW WELL WAS THAT ATTENDED? WE HAD MIDPOINT, UH, RESIDENTS AND THAT'S WHERE WE GAINED SOME OF THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE, UM, BEING ABLE TO OFFER THE OP THE OPTION TO BE ABLE TO BIAS THE AMENITY, TALKED ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS.
WE EVEN HAD FOLKS FROM THE HAVEN ATTEND AS WELL.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO ANSWER A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS DURING THAT PERIOD.
BUT ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ARE BEING HAD AS THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
SO AS FAR AS GOOD FAITH, WE HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN ACTING IN GOOD FAITH TO GET THESE THINGS DONE FOR THEM.
YEAH, I'M JUST KIND OF SHOCKED CUZ YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING AND WE LISTENED TO ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE AND THEY SAID SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO, AND, AND WHO'S TELLING THE TRUTH AND WHO'S NOT.
AND I BELIEVE IN THE PACKET THAT I SAW THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE FINAL PACKET, IT SHOWED THE CORRESPONDENCE AND THE EMAILS THAT I PROVIDED TO PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THEY REQUESTED IT AT THAT TIME.
SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS IN THERE AS WELL.
AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SEND YOU THE BUDGETS AND THE COMMUNICATION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD WITH THE AGREEMENTS AND THE ATTORNEYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, I'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE HOA, THEIR HOA MANAGER, CHELSEA, THIS IS WHO I'VE BEEN CONTACTING WITH NOW, MIDPOINTS ATTORNEY.
AND OF COURSE OUR ATTORNEY WILL COME TOGETHER FOR THE FINAL LANGUAGE ON THE A AGREEMENTS.
GATE, THE, UM, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE GATE WOULD MOVE TO THE FRONT.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT I PROPOSED.
THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE ONE COMMUNITY IN, IN A WAY.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAD.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE SAID, OKAY, WE'LL OFFER TO MOVE THAT GATE TO THE FRONT.
SO IT COULD BE ONE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.
IF THEY AGREE TO IT, THEN GREAT.
WE'RE, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR THEM.
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TO DO ANY OF THESE THINGS.BUT THEIR ASSOCIATION HAS TO VOTE ON THOSE ITEMS. SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION IF YOU DO THAT, YOU WOULDN'T PUT UP A SECOND GATE BEHIND IT, WOULD YOU? NO, SIR.
THE MEETINGS THAT HAD OR DIDN'T HAPPEN, HOWEVER THAT GOES.
CUZ IT'S STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMEWHERE.
I THINK IT'S ONLY GONNA BE, UM, ADMINISTERED PROPERLY WHEN STAFF, OUR STAFF IS IN THE MEETING AND, AND ALL PARTIES ARE INVITED.
ARE YOU WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT? YEAH, I'M WILLING TO DO, WE'RE WILLING TO GO THROUGH ANYTHING, BUT NOW WE WERE DIRECTED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT I BELIEVE THAT PLANNING COMMISSION MADE IT CLEAR THAT ANYTHING BETWEEN HOAS AND POAS ARE NOT TO BE HANDLED WITHIN A STAFF PLANNING COMMISSION OR, OR HANDLED AS FAR AS THROUGH THE TOWN.
SO WE CAN, I I WOULD JUST, WE CAN DENY THE RECOMMENDATIONS, SOMETHING THAT'S FACTUAL AND I I'M GOING TO DO WELL AND, AND I HAVE PROVIDED SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THE COMMUNICATION THAT'S BEEN BACK, BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN US.
SO THERE IT IS IN THE PACKET THERE.
BACK TO MY QUESTION, ARE YOU WILLING TO, TO BE A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION? SURE.
THEN WE NEED TO SET UP A MEETING SO THAT ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE SAYING TODAY CAN BE CONVEYED TO, UM, TO MIDPOINT RESIDENTS.
AND THEY CAN ASK QUESTION AND THEY CAN GET THEIR QUESTION ANSWERED.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE, UM, A LOT OF ANSWERS THAT THEY MAY NOT BE PRIVILEGED TO AT THIS POINT.
SO BECAUSE TALKING TO THE, UM, TO THE PROPERTY OWNER MANAGEMENT, AND I THINK I'M, I'M FALL UNDER THAT SAME PROPERTY OWNER AS MANAGEMENT.
THAT'S POOR COMMUNICATION RIGHT THERE.
SO, SO I WOULD RATHER, I THINK THERE'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT THAT COMMUNICATION IS, IS A PART OF, UM, HOW WE MAKE OUR DECISION TOO.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
THIS IS WHY WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY DOING WHAT WE HAVE TO, TO TRY TO LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS AND BE ABLE TO ADDRESS 'EM.
WHAT'S THE, THEY'RE NOT GOING GOING UNNOTICED.
WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME TO GET TO THAT POINT OF THEIR STUDY BEING FINISHED? AND YOU AGREE TO IT? THE BUDGET IS DONE.
THE STUDY, NOT THE BUDGET, THE STUDY, THE HOA UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE, OR WHATEVER.
WHAT IS THAT CAUSE AN AGREEMENT ABOUT? SO AGAIN, MY UNDER GO AHEAD.
SO WHAT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S GOOD QUESTION.
SO AS OF TODAY, I WAS HOPING TO HAVE IT DELIVERED TO 'EM TODAY PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
OF COURSE, AFTER REVIEWING IT, THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT I WAS LIKE, OKAY, HOLD ON.
SO IT GOES BACK TO THE ATTORNEY, ATTORNEY IS REDRAWING IT UP, LIKE YOU SAID, I WANT TO DELIVER BOTH ONE THE BUDGET OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO BE ABLE TO JOIN IF THEY WANTED TO BE PART OF THE PO I MEAN, NOT POA, PART OF THE AMEN PACKAGE.
AND TWO, THE EASEMENT AGREEMENT.
BASICALLY THE EASEMENT AGREEMENT THAT COVERS THE ROAD.
NOW AGAIN, THERE'S ALREADY AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
WE ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO THE ROAD.
SO THE NEW AGREEMENT, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING THE EXPENSES AND THE THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN ALSO WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE PLACE IS COMPLETELY BUILT OUT.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE TO SEE CHANGES AND I JUST GO BACK TO SHELL HALL AND PINECREST, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FROM THE FORMER MAYOR AND COUNCIL INTERCONNECTIVITY AND, UM, SHELL HALL GOT A GATE NOT THINKING WHEN PINECREST WAS GOING TO MEET SHELL HALL'S FINAL PHASE WITH K H MANIAN.
UM, IT'S REALLY CAUSED A MESS.
I MEAN, YOU COULD PUT A GATE THERE AND MIDPOINT COULD PUT A GATE AT THE FRONT.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WHEN GATED COMMUNITIES AND I KNOW LANDINGS TODAY IS FIVE, SIX, 700,000 AND YOU LOOK AT MIDPOINT, THAT'S STILL IN THE THREE HUNDREDS AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUILD THINGS FOR THE 300.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT FUNDING AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A GATE.
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NOT WORKING, AND YOU'LL BE GONE AND WE'LL STILL BE HERE.SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL, IF THEY, Y'ALL WANT A MEETING, I THINK YOUR HOA STUDY NEEDS TO BE SENT TO THEM.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S IN YOUR LAP, SO I THINK YOU NEED TO GET IT TO 'EM.
UM, CAN YOU HELP EXPLAIN, UM, TELL ME ONE MORE TIME WHEN I, I DIDN'T FOLLOW ON THE, THE GATE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING IT.
WAS WRITING DOWN SOME THINGS THAT WE HAD ALL TALKED ABOUT.
IF WE WERE GONNA DO A MOTION TODAY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THAT, UM, WE WOULD MAKE THE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS, THE SECOND ACCESS CONSTRUCTION.
THERE'D BE NO CONSTRUCTION ACCESS THROUGH THE MAIN GATE.
THERE'D BE NO GATE, BUT MAYBE THE NEIGHBORS, I THINK YOU GIVE SOME CLOUT TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO BOUGHT THERE.
DO THEY WANT A GATE? IF THEY WANT A GATE, A GATE DOESN'T KEEP PEOPLE OUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, PUT A GATE UP THERE.
GATES BREAK,
UM, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE KIND OF, THAT HE HEARD FROM US.
SO DO YOU WANT THEM TO GET BACK AWAY STUDY TO HIM OR PERSONALLY? YEAH.
AND ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION, JUST SO TRY, I HEARD THROUGH SOME OF THE EMAILS I MAY HAVE RECEIVED.
WHEN, WHEN THIS FIRST PHASE OF MIDPOINT WAS BUILT, WHAT, 10 YEARS AGO? HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN? OH, WELL, FIRST 16, 18 YEARS.
WERE THERE SUPPOSED TO BE AMENITIES FOR MIDPOINT WHEN Y'ALL, YOUR COMPANY BUILT THAT TOO, RIGHT? NO, NO, NO.
VILLAGE PARK HOMES BUILT THE FRONT.
SO THEY WEREN'T, Y'ALL WEREN'T PROMISED.
THEY WEREN'T PROMISED ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR COUNCIL.
SO THE, YOU CAN SEE ON THE, THE, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN.
SO THIS IS WHAT IT'S BEEN APPROVED.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S AREAS OF GREEN, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, THIS ONE DOWN HERE JUST SAYS RECREATION.
UM, BUT NOTHING NEVER HAPPENS.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S PINE TREES, IT'S JUST, UH, SCRUB TREES.
UH, THERE'S A FEW OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE PARKS.
UM, BUT AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAD, UM, PROGRAMMED ANY ADDITIONAL AMENITIES, A POOL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
NOW THAT JUST BECAUSE THIS MASTER PLAN DOESN'T SHOW, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY WEREN'T CONSIDERING THAT.
SO, UM, BUT THAT'S JUST, IT'S UNKNOWN AT THIS POINT.
WELL, IN MY WORLD, IN OUTSIDE OF HERE, WHEN SOUTHERN OAKS AND MEADOWS AND MIDPOINT WERE DEVELOPED, IT WAS JUST DIFFERENT TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I WAS ALWAYS OF THE UNDERSTANDING MED MIDPOINT WAS GONNA BE MORE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, JUST A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD KIND OF JASON PINEWOOD SOFT FARM WHERE THE AMENITIES WEREN'T OVER THE TOP.
AND THEN YOU HAD SOUTHERN OAKS THAT HAD A LITTLE AMENITY, AND THEN YOU HAD THE MEADOWS, I THINK IT'S THE MEADOWS THAT HAD MORE AMENITIES, BUT, UM, NONE OF 'EM HAD A GATE.
SO I I, IF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE ON A GATE, AND Y'ALL CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.
AND AGAIN, AS FAR AS THE GATE GOES, PALSEY WAS TAKEN EVEN AFTER, YOU KNOW, THE GATES INSTALLED, YOU TALKED ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
PTY PTY HAS TAKEN 100% OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT, OF THAT MAINTENANCE.
THE HAVENS GATE'S USUALLY OPEN.
I MEAN, THE GATE GATES ARE GATE.
ANYWAY, WE'RE KIND OF GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES.
UM, WE ARE, TERRY SUGGESTED TABLING IS, IT'S ONE IS DID SOMEONE WANT TO DO THAT MOTION OR YOU READY FOR A MOTION? I THINK SO.
DON'T BE TABLED UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE DEVELOPER HAS A MEETING OR WORKSHOP WITH THE POA AND PHASE ONE OWNERS TO DISCUSS THE OUTSTANDING ISSUES.
ONCE THE MEETING WORKSHOP IS HELD, THIS MATTER WILL BE PUT BACK ON OUR AGENDA.
I NEED, I NEED TO ADD, UH, THE STAFF IS IN THAT MEETING AS WELL.
ONE SECOND TO INCLUDE STAFF REQUEST FOR THAT.
DO YOU WANNA SAY TO INCLUDE STAFF MEETING? NEED TO REQUEST FOR KIM'S STAFF INTERVENE WITH TWO POAS? I CAN'T INTERVENE.
WELL, WE GOTTA DO A SECOND NOW, THEN WE CAN AMEND IT.
SO WE CAN THEN YOU TO INCLUDE STAFF.
YOU COULD SIMPLY AMEND THE MOTION AS, UM, COUNCILMAN HAMILTON MENTIONED, UM, BY SAYING THAT THE TOWN WILL BE NOTIFIED OF WHEN THIS MEETING IS GOING TO BE HELD AND HAVE THE STAFF HAS THE RIGHT TO ATTEND.
I THINK WE, WE TAKE CARE OF IT.
AND, BUT WE DIDN'T SECOND THE FIRST ONE.
SO WHY ARE WE AMENDING IT WHEN WE HAVE YOU THIS? YEAH,
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WE DIDN'T JUST, JUST GO AHEAD AND AND ADD THAT TO, TO THE MOTION.WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION AND THEN START OVER, WHICH YOU WANNA DO.
UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THAT WORKSHOP AND HELD ANOTHER SENTENCE.
AND STAFF BE NOTIFIED AND HAS THE RIGHT TO ATTEND.
THEY'RE THERE TO, LIKE THEY DID WITH CYPRESS RIDGE, WE'RE THERE TO REPORT BACK TO Y'ALL.
RIGHT? HAVEN'T, DOESN'T HAVE TO RUN THE MEETING.
HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO ATTEND RIGHT NOW.
SO HE'S GO, THEY'RE GOING ATTEND AND JUST BE NOTIFIED AND ATTEND.
WELL, I, I, UH, YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? YOUR INFORMATION WAS GOOD.
I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET WHAT YOU, OKAY, LET ME GIVE THE SHOT.
IS THERE A MOTION THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE UNDER FORMAL ITEMS BE TABLED UNTIL SUCH TIME AS DEVELOPER HAS A MEETING SLASH WORKSHOP WITH THE POA AND PHASE ONE OWNERS TO DISCUSS OUTSTANDING ISSUES? THIS MEETING SHALL OCCUR WITHIN THREE WEEKS.
THREE WEEKS STAFF WILL BE, UH, NOTIFIED AND BE THERE TO ATTEND.
UM, ONCE THE MEETING WORKSHOP IS HELD, THIS MATTER WILL BE PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA.
WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE HELD? DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC, HOW IS THAT MOTION? IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY.
ANY DISCUSSION? SO WE'LL INCLUDE THIS.
KIM, I'LL GIVE YOU THIS SO YOU HAVE IT.
ANY DISCUSSION? NO, YOU CAN DISCUSS.
WE'VE JUST, WE'RE IN, I THINK IT MIGHT BE MUCH BE BENEFICIAL, UM, IF WE MAKE THIS ROOM AVAILABLE.
UM, SO, UM, STAFF WOULD BE HERE.
UM, UH, I THINK THAT MIGHT MIGHT WORK OUT.
SO THEY HAVE A LARGE ENOUGH ROOM.
IF THERE'S ENOUGH PEOPLE, UM, THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE, UM, GO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU GET THE WORD OUT IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
BUT PLEASE KNOW WE HAVE MEETINGS ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY, BUT THIS ROOM IS GREAT FOR THAT.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND I HAVE IT HERE FOR THE RECORD.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU TERRY.
ALL IN FAVOR STATEMENT SAYING, AYE.
KIM, YOU KNOW MY SCRIBBLE MAYOR? YES, SURE.
IF YOU WANNA, WHY IS THIS A LONG SEGMENT? WELL, HE'S GONNA BE PRESENTING THAT AND THEN THAT'S IT.
I HOPE
SHE'S CALLED US ALL OUT BEFORE.
PROMISE THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A, WE WANT THE QUICK ONE.
HERE, A MOTION TO BREAK FOR TWO MINUTES, SOME OF SECOND.
CAN YOU DISCUSS HIM ALL IN FAVOR STATEMENT SAYING I TAKE ME TWO MINUTES.
[XII.6. Consideration of an Ordinance to Approve an Updated 2022 Comprehensive Plan ("Blueprint Bluffton") for the Town of Bluffton - First Reading - Kevin Icard, Director of Growth Management]
UM, SO THIS, UH, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE MAKING FOR OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THAT.
SO JUST SOME, UH, BACKGROUND INFORMATION'S REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.
UH, SO WHAT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? IT'S A LONG RANGE, LONG RANGE POLICY DOCUMENT, UH, THAT WILL HELP GUIDE US OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
UH, WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A FULL UPDATE EVERY 10 YEARS AND THEN AN AUDIT EVERY FIVE YEARS.
SO ANYTIME WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE CHANGES TO, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, ONE OF THEIR, ONE OF THEIR MAJOR RESPONSIBILITIES IS PROVIDED THIS RECOMMENDATION TO TEAM COUNCIL.
AND THEY TOOK THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.
UH, WE HAVE THE 10 ELEMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED, UH, IN THIS DOCUMENT.
THESE ARE ALL REQUIRED BY LAW.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THEM ON THE SCREEN HERE.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER IT.
UH, WE DID A LOT OF DATA COLLECTIONS, SO THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER, UH, PLANS OUT THERE, BOTH REGIONAL, UH, LOCAL PLANS, UH, THAT WE USED TO PROVIDE INPUT TOWARDS, UH, MOVING THIS DOCUMENT FORWARD.
UH, AS WELL AS JUST SOME, UH, THE ASSESSMENT HERE, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE DOCUMENT, WE PROVIDE A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION, GRAPHIC FORMS, SO THAT WAY IT'S EASY TO READ.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, EXAMPLES INCLUDE MEDIAN HOUSE CALLED HOUSEHOLD INCOME, THE MEDIAN AGE AND ADVERSE, UH, FAMILY SERVICE, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UH, WE, UM, WELL, AS YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH COVID AND IT WAS, IT WAS DIFFICULT, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED.
UH, WE HAD ACTS OF GOD THAT STOPPED SOME OF OUR MEETINGS OF POWER OUTAGES HERE AT TOWN HALL.
UM, UH, TORNADO THREATS, UH, YOU NAME IT, WE HAD IT, UM, SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE MEETINGS, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THROUGH IT.
AND THEN, UM, HOLD THESE ROUND TABLE MEETINGS WITH STEERING COMMITTEES AND STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, SOME OF THE, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AS YOU CAN SEE ON HERE, SOME OF THE, SOME
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OF THE FAVORITE THINGS AND THEN SOME OF THE CONCERNS.AND YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THOSE KIND OF OVERLAP EACH OTHER.
UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY THE MAY RIVER, THAT'S A BIG ONE.
UH, WHERE THEY FELT THAT THAT WAS, UH, WHAT PEOPLE, WHAT BRINGS PEOPLE HERE, BUT THEN, UH, THE OVERDEVELOPMENT AND, AND WHAT'S GONNA CAUSE OR, UH, WHAT, YOU KNOW, ISSUES WOULD WE HAVE WITH THE MAY RIVER.
WITH THAT OVERDEVELOPMENT, UH, THEMES, WE HAD VARIOUS, UH, GOALS AND THEMES, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
SO EACH ONE, EACH ELEMENT HAD ITS OWN, UM, GOAL AND THEME.
AND WHAT WE DID IS, FROM A STRUCTURAL STANDPOINT, YOU HAVE YOUR GOAL, UH, WHICH IS WHAT'S, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE? OUR OBJECTIVE, HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THERE, AND THEN THE ACTION IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
UH, ONE EXAMPLE IS THE LAND USE ELEMENT.
AND THAT'S WHERE, UH, THE GOAL IS ENVISION A MORE BALANCED BLUFFTON.
THE OBJECTIVE IS TO IMPROVE THE TOWN'S REGULATORY DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK.
AND ONE OF THE ACTIONS IS REVIEW THE, UH, WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS TO ENSURE THEIR RESULT IN, UH, PROVISION OF HOUSING THAT'S AFFORDABLE TO LOW AND MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES.
WE HAD 166, UH, ACTION ITEMS THROUGHOUT THIS DOCUMENT.
SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF US OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
UM, I, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PRIORITIZATION, UH, THAT'S SHOWN IN THERE.
AND, AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING THAT WAS LISTED AS A LOW PRIORITY DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT A PRIORITY.
IT'S JUST FROM A WORKFLOW STANDPOINT, WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT WE WANT TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH FIRST.
AND AT ANY TIME, EVEN IF SOMETHING'S LOW, US TOWN COUNCIL CAN SAY WE WANNA ELEVATE THAT AND BRING THAT TO, UM, A HIGHER PRIORITY.
UM, WHEN THIS, UH, THE, THE DRAFT THAT CAME OUT, UH, WE STARTED REVIEWING THIS.
UH, WE HELD MULTIPLE WORKSHOPS.
ALL OF THESE WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, WE HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT FROM THAT.
UM, WE HAVE ONE PERSON HERE THAT'S, UH, THAT HAD PROVIDED SOME INPUT.
UH, SOME OF THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE HERE EARLIER PROVIDED INPUT AS WELL.
UM, BUT ALL THESE MEETINGS WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, WE HAD THEM STREAMED AND, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, TOOK THE TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS.
UH, I BELIEVE WE HAD, UM, OVER 900 VARIOUS COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THIS DOCUMENT FROM PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO THEY MADE SURE THAT THEY WERE READING THROUGH THIS, UM, VERY CLOSELY.
UH, SO AT THE SEPTEMBER 28TH, UH, MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED, UH, TO APPROVE, UH, WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.
AND THIS WAS, UM, PER, UH, MAYOR MCCRACKEN, UH, WAS TO INCLUDE, TO MENTION THE CULTURAL RESOURCES SECTION THAT OYSTER HARVESTING AND A UNIQUE COMPONENT TO BLUFFS FABRIC REMAINS A VIABLE COMMERCIAL OPERATION TO THIS DAY.
UM, SO WE ARE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, PRIOR TO THAT FINAL, UH, PLAN THAT YOU APPROVE ON SECOND READING, WE'LL HAVE THIS DOCUMENT OR THIS, UH, THIS QUOTE, UH, INCLUDED INTO THE CULTURAL RESOURCES SECTION.
UH, NEXT STEPS THIS EVENING, WE'RE HERE FOR OUR FIRST READING.
UH, WE'LL BRING THIS BACK TO YOU, UM, AT THE NOVEMBER 8TH, FINAL READING AND PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, YOUR ACTIONS ARE TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH ANY ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO IT OR TO DENY THE CREST.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IN DISCUSSION.
AND I DO HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION FOR YOU, WHICH DOES INCLUDE THAT, UH, THE COMMENT ABOUT THE OYSTER HARVESTING AND ALSO TO ALLOW STAFF TO PROVIDE ANY, THERE'S ANY MINOR, UH, REVISIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR, ARE NECESSARY, UM, ARE NOT CONTENT BASED, BUT JUST, UH, FROM AMATIC STANDPOINT THAT WE COULD MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
KEVIN, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL US YOU WAS GONNA BE TWO MINUTES? WE COULD HAVE STAYED.
SO I HAVE A GOING, I MEAN I CAN, I GOT THE DOCUMENT PULLED UP AND WE CAN GO THROUGH IT PAGE BY PAGE.
WELL, I'M TRYING TO GET, TELL YOUR ATTACHMENT CAUSE I MET WITH Y'ALL THURSDAY.
SO YOU HAD, YOU HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ANNEXATION, UH, THE FUTURE ANNEXATION.
NOW, UM, WHAT WE CAN DO IS PRIOR TO THAT SECOND READING, UM, IF THAT DO THAT MAP, UM, WE CAN REDUCE THE SIZE DOWN OF IT.
I KNOW THAT YOU HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, THE ALL JOY AREA.
UM, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN KIND OF READJUST THAT THE LINE OF WHERE WE PROPOSED ANNEX FUTURE ANNEXATION AREA WOULD BE KIND OF, KIND OF REDUCE THE SIZE OF IT.
AGAIN, ANY, UH, ANY ANNEXATION FIRST HAS TO BE CONTIGUOUS WITH THE TEMP.
SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE CRITERIA.
AND EVERYTHING IS REQUIRED TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU.
THE APPLICATION IS REQUIRED TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY FROM THE VERY BEGINNING TO SAY YAY OR NA TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY, UH, PROPOSED ANNEXATION.
YOU WERE THERE WHEN I WAS THERE.
HE, I LOOKED AT THE WHOLE ANNEX WAS IN, I DON'T SEE IT HERE, BUT THE REASON ALL OLD JOY AROUND THERE.
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TO SHRINK AREA.ARE YOU OKAY WITH IT? UH, YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
I, THEY STARTED THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO WITH A, A FACEBOOK POST ABOUT HOW BLUFFS WANT, UH, TO ANNEX, SELL ALL JOYS WATERFRONT PROPERTY AND GET OH, WHATEVER.
SO I, I MADE IT REAL CLEAR ON THERE EXACTLY HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ANNEX PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS ANNEX THEIR PROPERTY INTO THE TOWN.
I MEAN, WE DON'T GO OUT AND SOLICIT, ANNEXATION CAN'T.
SO IF YOU LEAVE IT ON THERE AND SOMEDAY THEY WANT TO COME INTO THE TOWN, SO BE IT.
AND IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND AND THEY TALK SMACK, WE JUST HAVE TO EDUCATE 'EM AND TELL 'EM THE WAY IT IS.
BECAUSE FOR A PERSON DEAD SET OUR INTENT ON DISAGREEING, THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA DISAGREE.
AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE ADAGE THAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME IS, IS THE, WHAT THE DMV USES.
YOU KNOW, IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE.
SO IF THE EDUCATION IS THERE, IF IT'S BEEN STATED WHAT IS AND WHAT ISN'T, UM, AT THIS POINT IT'S MORE SO THOSE WHO JUST REFUSE TO UM, ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT EXISTS.
AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE GETTING INTO A NEVER ENDING GAME OF BACK AND FORTH WITH THAT
I, THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD TO THAT IS RIGHT NOW IN THE CURRENT, THERE'S, THERE IS NO ANNEXATION OR FUTURE ANNEXATION MAP.
SO YOU KNOW, WE COULD ADD IT, NOT ADD IT.
IF WE'RE SILENT ON IT, IT DOESN'T SAY WE REMEMBER WHICH.
IT, BUT I JUST, SO MANY CHANGES AND I LOOK AT THE ALL COMP PLAN WITH CERTAIN ATTACHMENTS AND NOW WE HAVE A NEW COMP PLAN AND NOW THEY'RE MISSING ATTACHMENTS.
I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW, NO, IT'S NOT IN THERE.
IT'S NOT IN THERE, IT JUST SHOWS ANNEXATION HISTORY.
IT'S NOT IN THERE, BUT IT DEFINITELY CAUSED ISSUE WITH IT BEING IN THERE.
SO IF WE WERE GONNA ADD IT OR WE COULD DO TWO THINGS, WE COULD EITHER ADD NOW OR WE COULD ADD A, ADD A RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER.
THEY SOUND LIKE THEY, THEY DON'T AGREE WITH, BUT IT'S NOT IN THERE.
I WOULD JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW WHAT I, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RATHER NOT BE IN THERE? I MEAN IF PEOPLE ARE CALLING YOU COMPLAIN.
I JUST, NO, I MEAN IT'S, IT PUMPS UP A LOT.
THEY PULL UP, NOW WE HAVE A NEW COMP PLAN, SO THE NEW COMP PLAN'S NOT GONNA SHOW IT, BUT IN THE PATH, THE PAST COMP PLAN, IT WENT EVERYWHERE.
ANYONE IN HERE PROBABLY HAS WENDY, YOU LIVED IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD IT.
LUTON'S GONNA ANNEX ALL OF US AND I LIKE, AND WE EDUCATE, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WELL THEN PUT A DISCLAIMER IN THERE.
SO IF IT'S NOT IN, I JUST DON'T MARK IT ON THERET, PUT IT IN THERE, THEN THEY, THERE YOU GO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST, I HAVE ONE MORE STATEMENT.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE CHARLOTTE MOORE, PRINCIPAL PLANNER.
SHE WAS THE, THE HEAD OF THIS PROJECT, CHARLOTTE, SHE DID A FANTASTIC JOB THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
I KNOW, UM, SHE HAD PROBABLY QUITE A FEW SLEEPLESS NIGHTS.
UM, JUST ALSO DREAMING ABOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO, UM, SO SHE DID A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THIS TO BE JURASSIC ONE DAY, HER FIRST TIME.
AND HEATHER HIRED AS A SUBCONTRACTOR TO DO IT WITH HIM.
SO Y'ALL DON'T HAVE A DRINK?
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE TO ADOPT AND UPDATED 2022 COMPREHENSIVE.
SHOULD I, WE SHOOT THERE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA INCLUDE THE CULTURAL RESOURCES OR DO WE HAVE TO ADD THAT IN A MOTION? I KNOW YOU'RE CONCLUDING IT.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATEMENT SAYING I I OPPOSE HOW MANY YEARS? SEVEN.
DO WE DO ANOTHER ONE? 10, YEAH.
10 YEARS AND THEN A FIVE YEAR FOR JUST A, AN UPDATE.
WE'LL BRING THIS BACK TO YOU WITH SECOND READING.
IS THERE A MOTION TO OH CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON? THERE'RE ALL VERY WORTHY TO BE DISCUSSED, BUT THERE'S
[XIII. Consent Agenda Items]
NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? SO NO, THERE'S SECOND.ANY DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR STATEMENT SAYING AYE.
THAT'S OPPOSED, THAT'S CHEAT ANIMAL.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? YEAH, THANK.