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WELCOME TO THE, UH, TOWN OF HILLHEAD ISLAND, GUAG GEECHEE LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE MEETING.
UH, TODAY IS OCTOBER THE 10TH, 2022.
UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR COMING, AND WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
UM, KAREN, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FOYA? YES, SIR.
UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE CERTAINLY MR. ABDUL MALIK PRESENT.
MR. STEVENS HERE, AND MR. SIMMONS IS EXCUSED AND I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM MS. GREEN YET.
UM, SEEING IS HOW WE, WE DON'T HAVE A, A QUORUM AT THIS TIME.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO SKIP THROUGH, UH, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND ALSO THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR SEPTEMBER 12TH MEETING.
AND ALSO ITEM SEVEN E ON THE AGENDA IS THE PROPOSED 2023 MEETING SCHEDULE, WHICH WE WOULD NEED AN AGENDA, UH, A QUORUM TO APPROVE THOSE ITEMS. SO WE WILL, UH, SKIP OVER THOSE ITEMS FOR TODAY AND TAKE 'EM UP IN THE NEXT TIME THAT WE MEET.
UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, UH, THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE IS APPEARANCE.
WERE THERE ANY I HAVE NONE, SIR.
HAVE NO APPEARANCE BY CITIZENS, ANYBODY? NO ONE SIGNED UP.
UM, AGAIN, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY COLLEAGUES OR FOR BEING HERE AND TAKING THE TIME, AND CERTAINLY IF THOSE OF YOU IN THE PUBLIC AND RECOGNIZE THE STAFF OR THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING WITH OUR, OUR TASK FORCE HERE, AND ALSO ANY OF THE OTHER TOWN OFFICIALS THAT MAY BE PRESENT.
I DO SEE COUNCILMAN BROWN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AS WELL, AND THE REST OF THE, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE HERE WITH THE TOWN STAFF.
UM, AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS, AND I HAVE THE MID ISLAND REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PRESENTATION FROM OUR CONSULTANTS.
HELLO, MISSY LUK, COMMUNITY PLANNING MANAGER.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA INTRODUCE THIS TOPIC FOR YOU.
UM, THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, WE'RE ALSO HOLDING, UM, ANOTHER MEETING TONIGHT AT FIVE AT THE HILTON HEAD PUBLIC LIBRARY.
UM, AND I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE, UM, ANDREW OVERBECK AND BRIAN KINSMAN.
THEY'RE THE CONSULTANTS THAT ARE GONNA MAKE THIS PRESENTATION FOR YOU TODAY.
GOOD TO SEE, SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
UM, BRIAN ALSO, UH, BE JOINING, UH, JOINING ME HERE TODAY.
WE WANTED TO, UH, FOLLOW UP, UH, AFTER THE LAST TOWN COUNCIL, UH, WORKSHOP ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, UH, WITH, UM, INFORMATION AND, AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON, UM, THE, UH, MID ISLAND DISTRICT AND, AND TRACK, UH, WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE BETTER PART OF, UM, LAST YEAR OR SO, UH, WITH, UH, STAFF, THE COMMUNITY, UH, TOWN COUNCIL, UH, AND GIVE YOU THIS, UH, UPDATE TODAY AND GET, GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK, UH, AS WE START TO, UH, GET TOWARD, UH, ULTIMATE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AND, AND, UH, FIGURE IT WAS A GOOD CHANCE TO, TO TOUCH BASE.
I KNOW, UM, YOU, YOU WERE, SOME OF YOU ARE AT THE, THE LAST TOWN COUNCIL, UH, WORKSHOP.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL SORT OF STEP THROUGH WHAT WE'VE, UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO AND, UH, HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW WITH YOU THE, THE BACKGROUND, UH, ENGAGEMENT RESULTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.
UM, WE'VE GOT, UM, SOME, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'VE BROUGHT FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM, UH, THE PRESERVATION REPORT.
UM, TALK THROUGH SOME PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HIS STA HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USES AND SORT OF NEXT STEPS, UH, IN SCHEDULE GOING AHEAD.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THIS WORK BY LOOKING BACK AT ALL THE GREAT PLANNING WORK THAT PRECEDES IT SO YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
OUR PLAN, UH, REALLY SETS THE STAGE FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT WORK, YOU KNOW, DONE TOGETHER WITH, WITH, UH, YOUR RESIDENTS.
UH, REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO SORT OF CONTINUALLY GO BACK TO AND, AND LOOK AT, ALONG WITH, UH, THE GEECHEE CULTURE PRESERVATION PROJECT REPORT.
UH, AGAIN, HAD A LOT OF, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS EMBEDDED IN THAT REPORT THAT I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY ON.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, IMPLEMENTING, UH, MOST RECENTLY, UM, THE, UH, APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL OF CREATING THE GULLAH GEECHEE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH
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I THINK WILL HELP TO, UM, REALLY PUSH FORWARD A LOT OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND GIVE THAT SUPPORT THAT'S NEEDED, UH, FOR FOLKS TO REALLY REALIZE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL OF THEIR COMMUNITIES.SO HAVING THAT TOOL AS A RESOURCE IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY CAME TO MIND AS WE WERE, UH, READING THROUGH THAT.
IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT, UH, THAT STEP BEING TAKEN.
UM, GOING AHEAD I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
UM, SO, UH, AUGUST OF LAST YEAR STARTED TO DO STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, UM, AND STAKEHOLDER, WE MEAN SORT OF EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.
UH, SO WE DID TWO OPEN PARK DAY EVENTS, UH, HAD A VERY GOOD RESPONSE TO AN OPEN TOWN HALL SURVEY, UH, AND THEN WENT ONE ON ONE WITH, UH, WITH MORE THAN A HUNDRED STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, AND HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETINGS, UH, GOING, GOING THROUGH, UH, THE, THE LAST YEAR, MAKE SURE WE TOUCHED BASE WITH, WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND HAD HAD GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS.
SO THESE ARE THE GROUPS GENERAL, GENERALLY THE GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT WE'VE, UH, THAT WE'VE MET WITH.
UH, NOT THE INDIVIDUALS, BUT THE GROUPS OF FOLKS, UH, A LOT MORE INVITED, YOU KNOW, BEYOND THE A HUNDRED PLUS THAT WE ACTUALLY TALKED WITH, BUT REALLY HAD THE CHANCE TO HAVE THAT ONE-ON-ONE DIALOGUE WITH, WITH A, A GOOD GROUP OF FOLKS, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND I'LL, I'LL HIGHLIGHT A FEW, UM, A FEW, UH, RESULTS FROM THAT.
UH, AND I'LL GO THROUGH, UH, HERE.
I, I'VE GOT A SLIDE ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE, THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT AS, AS IS DEFINED FOR THE PLANNING WORK, UH, HERE AT A MOMENT.
UM, BUT WE ASKED PEOPLE WHAT'S MISSING, UH, IN THE DISTRICT.
I THINK KNOWING THAT THE PLANNERS ROAD GOLF COURSE WAS, UH, BEING THOUGHT OF, UH, FROM THE PARK PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN AS A PARK SPACE, NOT SURPRISINGLY, PEOPLE HAD, YOU KNOW, PARK IS ONE OF THEIR HIGHEST THINGS.
BUT I I THINK I'D LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE REST OF THOSE THINGS ON THE GRAPH AS THIS TAILS OUT.
UM, THE IDEA OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, WORKFORCE, HOUSING, UM, SHOPPING EVENTS, DINING, WALKABLE STREETS, UM, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT SUGGEST MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND NOT JUST POCKETS OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT REALLY TYPIFIES THE DISTRICT.
SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DO THAT? UM, WE HAD A NUMBER OF COMMENTS.
WE ASKED THIS AS, AGAIN, OPEN ENDED.
SO WE ASK PEOPLE, WHAT COMES TO THE TOP OF YOUR MIND WHEN YOU THINK OF CONCERNS AND ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE? AND THOSE REALLY DIVIDED INTO THINGS THAT TALKED ABOUT MID ISLAND OVERALL IN THE DISTRICT, AND THEN ALSO IN THE PARK.
UM, SO WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED THROUGH A SEPARATE PROCESS ON THE PARK, BUT AS WE LOOK AT THE DISTRICT, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WALKABILITY, TRAFFIC SAFETY, UM, THE NEGLECTED, UH, SHOPPING CENTERS, OR THE PERCEPTION OF THEM BEING NEGLECTED, AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT THE CHARACTER OF THE ISLAND IS, IS BALANCED AS, AS THINGS EVOLVE.
CUZ WE ALL, WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE.
UM, SO ALL OF THESE SORT OF POINT TO, UH, THE DESIRE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO, TO HOW, UH, THIS PART OF THE ISLAND, UH, GOES FORWARD, WHICH REALLY LED US TO THE FOLLOWING, UH, THEMES.
SO FIRST BEING PROTECT AND ENHANCED THE PEOPLE, NEIGHBORHOODS, CULTURE AND HISTORY, UH, AS WELL AS THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, PARKS AND PRESERVES AND SORT OF THE CHARACTER, UH, OF THIS PART OF THE ISLAND.
UM, SECOND, CONNECTING PEOPLE, OPEN SPACES, NEIGHBORHOODS, COMMUNITY HUBS TOGETHER.
AND THAT GETS TO SOME OF THE SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OR HEARD FROM PEOPLE.
UM, WE, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THE SHOPPING CENTERS, UH, YOU KNOW, NEED TO BE UPGRADED.
WELL, THAT STARTS TO HAVE US LOOK AT LAND USE AND ARE THERE DIFFERENT MIXES OF USES THAT CAN HAPPEN AS WE SEE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING ELSEWHERE, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT ARE SOME NEEDS FROM THE PRESERVATION REPORT THAT HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE, THE NEEDS IN THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS? AND THEN WHAT ARE SOME STANDARDS? SO WE GOTTA START THINKING THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS HAPPENS IN A WAY THAT THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE AND, AND LOOKS AND FEELS LIKE HILTON HEAD AT THE END OF THE DAY.
UM, SO THE STRATEGIC DIRECTION THAT WE'VE BEEN SORT OF MOVING IN, UH, WITH THAT SORT OF AS OUR, OUR GUIDING POINT, UH, IS TO PROTECT, PRESERVE, EXPAND NATURAL, UH, ENVIRONMENT AND THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL, UH, ASSETS OF THIS PART OF THE ISLAND, CONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS, PARKS, COMMUNITY DESTINATIONS SAFELY, UH, ENABLING THE EVOLUTION OF LAND USES AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS TO PROVIDE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL INFO OPPORTUNITIES AND HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND WE'RE GONNA FOCUS PRETTY STRONGLY ON THAT ONE TODAY.
UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MENTION AS WE, AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE PRESERVATION REPORT, THERE'S SORT OF A DESIRE FOR, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO SUPPORT HOME BASED BUSINESS.
THERE WAS CERTAINLY A DESIRE TO HAVE, UH, GREATER DENSITY AND, UM, MORE FORGIVENESS IN SOME OF THE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS THAT REALLY HAMPER THE ABILITY OF INDIVIDUALS TO, TO DO THINGS WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
SO AGAIN, UH, WE RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED HERE FOR A BETTER PART OF A, UH, LAST TWO YEARS.
UM, BUT AS WE THINK THROUGH, UH, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED FROM THE PRESERVATION REPORT, GIVING PEOPLE THAT FLEXIBILITY AND THE ABILITY TO CONTROL THEIR OWN DESTINY, REALLY WHAT WE WERE SORT OF, UH, WORKING THROUGH THERE AND, AND HAVE SOME THINGS WE WANNA GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON TODAY.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION FRAMEWORK, BECAUSE NONE OF THIS REALLY, UH, MEANS
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ANYTHING UNLESS IT'S FOLLOWED THROUGH UPON.SO, UM, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE THINKING THROUGH.
UM, THIS IS BASICALLY THE, THE STUDY AREA, AND IT'S EVOLVED A LITTLE BIT, I THINK AS WE, UH, GONE THROUGH THIS.
UM, UM, A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, HEY, WE SHOULD GET, YOU KNOW, ALL THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS, THIS PART OF, UH, THE ISLAND TOGETHER.
SO BIG ALL, UH, IS SORT OF THE NORTHERN MOST, OR I GUESS, FARTHEST, UH, NORTHEAST.
AND WE GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MARSHLAND, UH, BEACH CITY ROAD AND UNION CEMETERY IN DI, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO THAT AS WE REFER TO THE DISTRICT, THIS IS THE GEOGRAPHY THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO, FULLY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE RECOGNIZED BY, UH, A LARGE CROSS SECTION IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, BUT AGAIN, UM, WE HAD TO SORT OF PUT SOME, PUT SOME LINES ON A MAP, UH, AND IT, AND IT'S EVOLVED AS WE'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE.
IT'S, IT'S GROWN, UM, UH, A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.
UH, BUT WE'RE VERY, UM, AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY IS, YOU KNOW, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO AGAIN, THIS PROVIDES THAT BASIS OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE GOT THESE, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, THAT HAVE, UH, A CULTURE UNIQUE TO THE THEMSELVES.
AND THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, PIECES IN THE PRESERVATION REPORT THAT, THAT WE WERE, UH, TRYING TO THINK THROUGH AS IT RELATES TO, UH, LAND USE.
UM, SO AGAIN, UH, WE'VE GOT AN EXISTING, UH, ZONING CODE, UH, WE'LL SORT OF TOGGLE BACK TO THIS HERE IN A MOMENT, TO LOOK THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THE AREAS OF, OF FOCUS.
UM, PRIMARILY LOOKING AT WHAT'S IN THE RM FOUR.
IT'S WHERE A LOT OF PRESERVATION REPORT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS LIE, UM, AND THEN THE LAND USE TODAY AND GO THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'VE GOT 14 DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT, THAT SORT OF BEEN LAID AT OUR FEET IS HOW DO WE START TO COLLAPSE THOSE CATEGORIES, UH, CONSOLIDATE THOSE IN A WAY THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE USER FRIENDLY AND MAYBE ALSO PAIRS UP MORE, UH, ACCURATE WITH WHAT PEOPLE WANNA SEE HAPPEN IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
UH, SO HERE WE'VE GOT QUITE A CROSS SECTION.
UH, WE'VE WORKED TO SORT OF CONSOLIDATE THOSE A LITTLE BIT AS WELL DOWN INTO THESE SEVEN CATEGORIES.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIFFERENT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN THE PURPLE.
UH, THAT'S A MIXED USE CATEGORY, UM, THAT WE THINK WE COULD HAVE, UH, NOT ONLY SORT OF BETTER SHOPPING CENTERS, BETTER COMMUNITY ASSETS THERE THAN EXIST TODAY.
UM, AND BY PROVIDING THAT, INSTEAD OF JUST BEING, YOU KNOW, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, HAVING IT BE THAT MIX OF USES THAT REALLY WILL HELP IT BE MORE OF A COMMUNITY DESTINATION, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, YOU KNOW, LIVE, WORK AND PLAY, COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY.
UM, HAVING A LANDYS OR A LANDYS CATEGORY THERE THAT EMBODIES THAT HELPS THAT TO, HELPS THAT TO OCCUR.
SO THAT'S THAT PURPLE AREA, THAT'S A PRETTY MAJOR AREA OF SORT OF CONSOLIDATION AND A BIT OF A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT IT BASED ON THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN.
UH, AND THEN ALSO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, UH, REALLY LOOKING BACK AGAIN AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF PRESERVATION REPORT THAT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO, TO, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP YOU LAND IF YOU WANTED TO, AND HAVE THOSE HOME BASED OR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES IN THOSE CATEGORIES.
SO AGAIN, IT FELT LIKE IT WAS MADE SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT IN AS A, UH, AS A LAND USE CATEGORY, UH, TO REALLY, REALLY TAKE THOSE PRESERVATION, UH, REPORT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO HEART.
SO, UM, GO THROUGH THESE A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAJOR CATEGORIES, UM, COMMERCIAL SERVICE WE'RE STILL GONNA NEED TO HAVE.
UM, WE DID A MARKET STUDY THAT SHOWED THERE'S STILL A NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, THESE JOB CREATING USES, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES IN THIS DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE AIRPORT, UH, PRESERVING THOSE AND ENABLING THOSE JOB, UH, CREATING, UM, USES TO CONTINUE TO EXIST.
SO YOU SEE THOSE SORT OF OCCUR THROUGHOUT, UH, THE DISTRICT.
UM, THERE ARE A HANDFUL ALONG MATTHEWS ALONG DYLAN OF RETAIL SERVICE, LODGING, WHERE WE'VE GOT SOME HOTELS, UH, AND SOME EXISTING RETAIL SERVICES THAT WE THINK MAKE SENSE TO CONTINUE EXIST ALONG, UH, THOSE CORRIDORS.
AND THEN, UH, GETTING INTO THESE MIXED USE CATEGORIES, UH, AGAIN, ALLOWING A MIX OF DIFFERENT THINGS, RETAIL, RESTAURANT, APARTMENTS, TOWN HOMES, OFFICE, INSTITUTIONAL, OPEN SPACE, UH, LITTLE GREATER DENSITY TO ALLOW FOR THE NEED FOR HOUSING.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR HOUSING.
UM, THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE THINK WE CAN GET A GOOD AMOUNT OF IT, UH, INTO THIS MIX.
AGAIN, KEEPING IT TO, UH, THE SORT OF HILTON HEAD STANDARD, ONE TO THREE STORIES.
WE ALSO HAVE AN AIRPORT NEARBY, SO WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT, IS ANYTHING GETS BUILT.
UM, AND THEN ONE OF THE MAJOR POINTS HERE, UH, IS THAT WE SHARE PARKING.
WE'VE GOTTA GET RID OF SURFACE PARKING IN ORDER TO CREATE THOSE COMMUNITY SPACES.
SURFACE PARKING LOTS ARE CONVENIENT, BUT THEY DON'T MAKE FOR A, A VERY FRIENDLY PLACE TO BE.
SO AS WE THINK ABOUT THE MIX OF USES, THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE A DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING ABOUT HOW THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, PATTERN EXISTS.
IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY, MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UH, BUT THIS IS A, A, A FAIRLY LARGE AREA CHANGE, UH, FROM, FROM OUR WORK.
AND THEN AGAIN, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UH, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, UM, PRIMARILY USES HERE ARE, UH, RESIDENTIAL.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A MIXTURE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL IN THESE AREAS.
THERE'S EVERYTHING FROM SINGLE FAMILY, UH, APARTMENTS, TOWN HOMES, TWO, FAMILY.
UH, SO AGAIN, WE WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT MIX THAT EXISTS AND, AND
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MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE HAVE IS A LAND USE CATEGORY, AND POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT SOME CODE UPDATES THAT THAT'S CONTINUED TO BE SUPPORTED.UH, THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY NOT IN THERE TODAY, WHICH IS IN THE PRESERVATION REPORT, UH, ARE THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL HOME BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES.
SO HAVING SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SUPPORTS THAT USE ENABLES THAT TO HAPPEN.
SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO RUN BY YOU TODAY.
AND THEN THE DENSITY, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A LITTLE GREATER DETAIL.
UH, RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THE AREAS OF, UH, POTENTIAL CHANGE HERE, RM FOUR, WHICH DOES ALLOW BETWEEN FOUR AND EIGHT DWELLING UNITS, UH, AN ACRE.
UH, WE THINK IT MAKES SENSE, UH, AS WE'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE AND TALKED WITH COUNCIL, THAT'S SIX TO EIGHT, THAT RANGE OF SIX TO EIGHT, UH, UH, COULD WORK.
AND WE'LL SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES ELSEWHERE IN THE DISTRICT TODAY THAT, THAT REALLY STARTED THAT SIX.
UH, AND AGAIN, THIS IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE PRESERVATION REPORT AS WELL, SO WANT TO FOCUS IN ON THAT SO WE CAN HAVE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
TODAY WE'RE FOCUSING IN ON, UH, THESE YELLOW AREAS, AND SPECIFICALLY, I THINK, IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT THE PRESERVATION REPORT SAID.
AND IT'S, AS I'VE DESCRIBED, UM, ALLOWING FOR HIGHER DENSITIES IN LAND ZONE RM FOUR.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO LOOK AT.
UM, REDUCE THE SETBACK AND BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS THAT REALLY CONSTRAINS THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO USE SOME OF THOSE SMALLER PARCELS.
UM, AND ALSO THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT, UH, IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT I THINK SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE.
SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PRESERVATION REPORT.
UM, THEY RECOMMEND AN OVERLAY, WHICH IN OUR MINDS IS A, IS A GREAT, UH, WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME.
WE WORK WITH A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
OVERLAY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IF YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING QUICKLY, UH, AND IMPACT THAT, UM, THAT CHANGE, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY RAPIDLY.
UM, THE THING THAT WE RUN INTO IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IS ONCE YOU PUT IN AN OVERLAY, IN ANOTHER OVERLAY, ON ANOTHER OVERLAY, IT'S A LOT TO, UM, TO WADE THROUGH AT WHETHER YOU'RE A PROPERTY OWNER OR THAT YOU'RE SOMEONE THAT'S TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET SOMETHING DONE.
UM, IT'S MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE TO HAVE AN ACTUAL CODE THAT MATCHES WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE.
AND SO, OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM WORKING WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMUNITIES, ONCE THAT OVERLAY GETS GOING, IT'S HARD TO, IT'S HARD TO, UM, HARD TO LEGISLA IT AFTER A WHILE.
IT'S HARD TO GO THROUGH THAT AND, AND, AND MAKE SENSE OF IT.
UM, TO CHANGE THE ACTUAL THING THAT'S THE PROBLEM, WHICH IS THE CODE WOULD BE, WE'D RECOMMEND, JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT STEP OVERLY REALLY IS KIND OF A BANDAID.
UH, WHEREAS THE CODE CHANGE SHOWS COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THIS AND, AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
UM, SO THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION.
WE WORK A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT PUT AN OVERLAYS, AND THEN THEY COME BACK LATER AND UPDATE THE CODE FINALLY.
JUST GO AHEAD AND UPDATE THE CODE, UM, AND HAVE IT REFLECT WHAT YOU WANT IT TO REFLECT.
SO AS WE LOOKED AT THAT, UH, WE THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE AS THE PRESERVATION REPORT IS OUTLINED, UH, TO ADVANCE AND CELEBRATE THE HISTORY AND CULTURE, UH, OF, OF THIS PART OF THE ISLAND, TO ENABLE THESE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE TO BE ECONOMICALLY SUSTAINABLE.
YOU KNOW, THAT HAS TO DO WITH BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP A PROPERTY OF FASO, CHOOSE IN THE WAY THAT THEY'D LIKE, AND ALSO HAS THOSE, UH, HOME BASED BUSINESSES, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES EMBEDDED IN IT.
UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AS WE LOOK AT THIS, THIS PART, UH, THIS SPECIFIC LAND USE AND THE MIX, THESE DISTRICT TO, UH, EXPAND THAT NEED FOR HOUSING.
UH, ADDRESS THE, THE NEEDS FOR AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE OPTIONS AS WELL, AND GET PEOPLE THE FLEXIBILITY TO OPTIMIZE THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY SEE FIT.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE REALLY POINTED BACK TO.
WE LOOKED AT THE PRESERVATION REPORT.
UM, WE FEEL IT PRETTY CONSISTENT, UH, AS WE MOVE AHEAD, UM, WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO, UH, FOR EACH OF THESE, JUST, I'LL GO THROUGH THESE, UM, ONE AT A TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRIMARILY FOCUSING IN, UH, AS THE PRESERVATION REPORT GUIDED US TO LOOK AT THOSE RM FOUR LOW TO MODERATE DENSITY, UH, PARTS OF, UM, THE DISTRICT.
THOSE, UM, THAT RM FOUR IS IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS TODAY.
AND WE LOOKED THROUGH SORT OF WHAT THE EXISTING LAND USES ARE FOR EACH OF THOSE FIVE.
SO WE LOOKED AT EXISTING LAND USE HERE IN GRASSLAND.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S A MIXTURE OF MULTI-FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY, AND OPEN SPACE UNDEVELOPED.
UH, AND YOU HAVE, UH, A COUPLE DIFFERENT ZONING CATEGORIES.
SO YOU DO HAVE SOME RM 12 THAT'S HERE.
UM, BUT PRIMARILY WE'D BE LOOKING AT JUST LIKE THE PRESERVATION REPORT SUGGESTED THAT WE LOOK AT RM FOUR, UH, FOR SOME, UH, POTENTIAL CHANGES THERE.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IN TODAY'S CODE, AGAIN, ANOTHER PLACE WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT RULES TO NAVIGATE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE, EVEN UNDER RM FOUR, THERE'S DIFFERENT RULES, RIGHT? SO IF IT'S, UH, IF YOU HAVE A THREE ACRE PARCEL, YOU CAN DO SIX DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE.
UH, IF YOU HAVE A FIVE ACRE, UH, PARCEL, YOU CAN DO EIGHT.
SO, AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT THAT RANGE KIND OF EMBEDDED IN THE CODE TODAY.
WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IT MAKES A LOT EASIER IS JUST TO SAY IT'S, THIS IS THE CASE, REGARDLESS OF PARCEL SIZE.
SO SIX TO EIGHT DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE, REGARDLESS OF PARCEL SIZE.
ANOTHER WAY OF SORT OF SIMPLIFYING THINGS AND MAKING SORT OF THE RULES OF THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR, FOR EVERYONE, UH, SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO, TO DO ANYTHING ON THEIR PROPERTY.
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SO THAT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER SORT OF PIECE THERE TO SIMPLIFY, UH, THINGS A LITTLE BIT.UH, AGAIN, UH, I THINK THE, THE PRESERVATION REPORT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE EXACT RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, UH, AGAIN, WERE TRYING TO FIT THINGS INTO THE PARCEL SIZE BY PARCEL SIZE.
AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE SUGGESTING, YOU KNOW, SIMPLIFYING THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME SORT OF CONDITIONAL USES, UM, BEING PART OF THAT AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS, UM, THAT PEOPLE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
SO ALLOWING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE BED AND BREAKFAST COMEDIAN STORE, OPEN AIR SALES, OTHER COMMERCIAL SERVICES THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT, UM, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BUY RIGHT INSIDE INSIDE THE, THE CODE CHANGE.
SO WE DID THIS FOR EVERY SINGLE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST TO JUST SORT OF TAKE A LOOK AND MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T MISSING ANYTHING.
UH, AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT LAND USE FOR, FOR BIG HILL, WE LOOKED AT THE ZONING.
UM, MOST OF THAT IS, IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
AND, AND AGAIN, PRETTY BIG PIECE OF RM FOUR, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DEVELOPMENT ON ALL OF THESE, RIGHT? SO HOW MUCH INFO CAN HAPPEN, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT'LL, THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED OVER TIME.
AND AGAIN, SAME, UH, SAME RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE, SOME OF THESE PARCELS DEVELOPABLE, WE'VE GOTTA REDUCE THE BUFFER SETBACK RIGHT AWAY.
AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE RECOMMEND BE IN THAT, UH, CODE CHANGE AS WELL.
UH, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT UP IN MITCHELLVILLE.
THERE'S A, A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES.
AGAIN, UM, ONLY TALKING AS THE PRESERVATION REPORT WAS TALKING ABOUT ANY CHANGES WOULD BE TO RM FOUR.
UH, EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD REMAIN AS IS.
AND THEN, UH, LOOKED AT BIG ALL, UH, SAME SITUATION HERE.
EVERYTHING WOULD REMAIN AS, IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE, AS THE PRESERVATION REPORT GUIDED US, UH, TOWARD THAT RM FOUR, UH, CATEGORY.
AND SAME, UH, WITH MARSHLAND, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THESE PARCELS HERE ARE SEEING SOME, UH, SOME USE ON THEM TODAY.
SO WITH THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, SORT OF SUMMARIZE WHERE WE'VE LANDED AND WHAT WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY, AGAIN, UH, AS WE LOOK AT USES, UM, AND, AND BEING, YOU KNOW, TRUE TO WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT'S IN THE REPORT, YOU'LL ALLOW FOR THAT MIX OF, OF USES RESIDENTIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL HOME BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES, UH, A RANGE OF SIX TO DWELL, SIX TO EIGHT DWELL UNITS AND ACRE AGAIN, UM, REGARDLESS OF PARCEL SIZE, UH, IF, UH, UH, IN RM FOUR, UH, SO AGAIN, IT'D BE CHANGING THAT TO SIX TO EIGHT.
UM, WE FEEL LIKE THAT'LL ALLOW, UM, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT, IF SO, CHOSEN BY PROPERTY OWNER.
AGAIN, THAT WOULD, UM, ALSO RELAX THOSE, UM, THOSE OTHER STANDARDS THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP SMALLER PARCELS.
UH, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CREATE A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE, YOU KNOW, REALLY INTERCONNECTED, UH, COMMUNITY.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE BENCHMARKS OF SOME THINGS, UH, WE PULLED IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, STYLES AND CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BIG, YOU KNOW, MOVE HERE, I THINK IS THAT, UH, CONSISTENCY, YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT COMMITMENT AND THE CODE TO, TO GET IT RIGHT, UH, AND MAKE THAT CHANGE THAT WE, UH, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
WE NEED TO CALIBRATE THOSE, UM, SETBACK AND BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS, UM, ALLOW FOR THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
UH, ONE THING WE DID SORT OF LAND ON, UH, WAS THAT WE'D STILL WANT THESE TO BE PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER.
SO, UM, UP TO 25% OF, UH, OF A PARCEL COULD BE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
UH, SO THAT'S ONE SORT OF WAY TO SORT OF MAKE SURE THAT THIS STILL HAS THAT RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER TO IT, UM, BASED ON WHAT'S THERE TODAY.
UM, BUT ALLOWING FOR THAT, FOR THAT, UM, HOME BASED BUSINESS, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES TO EXIST, UM, AGAIN, WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR A VARIANCE OR ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO DO, UH, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AT THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, AND JUST ANOTHER BIT OF HOMEWORK THAT WE DID, UH, IN, IN LOOKING AT WHAT'S BEEN BUILT, UH, IN THE DISTRICT RESIDENTIAL, UH, WE DID LOOK AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT RECENT DEVELOPMENTS, UM, TO JUST SEE WHAT THEY DID IN TERMS OF DWELLING AS PER ACRE AND WHERE THEY LANDED IN THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT THEY BUILT.
UM, AND WE REALLY FOUND THAT YOU GOT PRETTY CLOSE TO SIX, IF NOT RIGHT AT IT IN A LOT OF THESE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS.
SO AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE THAT STARTING POINT OF SIX, GOING UP TO EIGHT REALLY DOES SORT OF MATCH WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN, IN, IN THE WORLD ALREADY.
UM, THIS, UH, AGAIN, UH, WAS, UM, UH, A THREE ACRE SITE.
THEY, THEY BUILT 18, UH, UNITS AT 5.7 DWELL UNITS AN ACRE.
SO AGAIN, PRETTY, PRETTY CLOSE TO SIX, UH, UP IN MITCHELLVILLE, UM, LITTLE OVER FIVE.
UH, THESE ARE 44 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS ON A LITTLE OVER EIGHT ACRES.
SO AGAIN, DIFFERENT TYPE OF PRODUCT, BUT AGAIN, SORT OF LANDING IN THAT, UH,
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IN THAT ZONE OF, OF DWELL UNITS PER ACRE.UH, AGAIN, IN, IN MITCHELLVILLE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UM, THIS, THEY WERE ALLOWED, UM, 12 DLE UNITS.
THEY BUILT 32 FAMILY UNITS ON FIVE ACRES, AGAIN, RIGHT AT SIX, UH, DNE UNION.
AND THEN FINALLY LOOKED DOWN AT, UM, RECENT DEVELOPMENT OF MARSHLAND, A LITTLE OVER FIVE, UH, 23 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
SO, AGAIN, DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNITS, DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF, UM, UM, YIELD THERE.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S SORT OF IN THE, IN A, YOU KNOW, IN THE RIGHT SPOT, UH, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE DENSITIES AND, AND PRODUCT TYPE THAT'S OUT THERE AS WORK GOES ON, THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPE THAT'S DESIRED MORE THAN, BUT MORE THAN ANOTHER.
BUT YOU'RE SEEING, YOU'RE GETTING A GOOD MIX OF THAT, UH, DEPENDING WHERE YOU ARE, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A CHARACTER SKETCH.
HOW WOULD WE START TO THINK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, COMING INTO A PLACE, YOU CAN SEE HOW YOU CAN START TO GET A MIXTURE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, DIFFERENT TYPES OF MAYBE BUSINESSES, UH, THAT THAT COULD OCCUR IN THESE, THESE NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS, UH, AND IN A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MAKES, MAKES IT VERY WALKABLE, UH, ALLOWS PEOPLE TO, TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS, UH, ON THEIR PROPERTY.
SO AS WE LOOK AT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS ON THIS SLIDE, BUT I, UH, WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW OF THEM.
UM, THESE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE LAST TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP THAT THEY ADOPT A FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT HAS THESE PIECES IN IT.
AGAIN, THAT'S A STARTING POINT.
UM, AND THEN IT'S GOING THROUGH THAT POLICY FRAMEWORK TO CREATE CONSISTENT UNIFORM DENSITY STANDARDS, UH, WITHIN THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE RE RECOMMENDING THAT BEING THE BASE ZONING, UM, THAT THEY CREATE AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY, UH, TO ALLOW FOR, UH, REDEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING INCENTIVES.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GREAT ABOUT THE, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS NOW THERE'S A FRAMEWORK TO PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UH, HAVING THAT AS A, AS A, UM, A GO-TO IS REALLY, UH, IMPORTANT.
UM, AGAIN, UH, PROGRAMS TO PROMOTE MIXED INCOME HOUSING IN THE DISTRICT, AND THEN ALIGNING THAT FUTURE LAND USE ZONING MAP, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING A FULL SPECTRUM OF DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES.
AND THEN I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UM, COUPLE OTHER PIECES AS WE, UH, LOOK AT THIS.
UM, REALLY IMPORTANT TO EVENTUALLY GET TO SOME, UM, UH, DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT WOULD GIVE PEOPLE SOME GUIDANCE ON, ON, UH, HOW TO DO THINGS WELL, BUT ALSO SUPPORT THEM IN THAT.
UH, SO AGAIN, HAVING THAT DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS REALLY KEY.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE LAST POINT THERE, WHICH IS THAT ORGANIZATIONAL FINANCIAL TOOLS TO GUIDE IMPLEMENTATION AND HELP PEOPLE DO THINGS.
AGAIN, THAT DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION REALLY IS A, A GREAT FIRST STEP IN, IN THAT DIRECTION.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT THE MOMENT.
UM, WANT TO, UH, MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION.
UH, STAFF WILL BE TAKING, UH, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE 19TH.
UH, WE'RE WORKING TOWARD AN ADOPTION BY RESOLUTION, UM, WITH, UH, COUNCIL, UH, NOVEMBER 1ST.
AND, UH, THEN THE WORK BEGINS.
SO AS WE START TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, THAT IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY IS REALLY, UM, VERY DEEP AND VERY PURPOSEFUL.
UM, THE, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THESE CHANGES AREN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, ON NOVEMBER 1ST, THEY WOULD HAPPEN AFTER THAT FACT.
AND THESE CONVERSATIONS WOULD CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY CHANGES TO ZONING, DESIGN, GUIDELINES, ET CETERA, WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION.
WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP FOR CONVERSATION.
UM, WANNA OPEN UP TO MY, MY COLLEAGUES FIRST? UM, LET ME JUST PAUSE FOR A SECOND.
I NEED TO ASK A, UH, TECHNICAL QUESTION HERE.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A QUORUM NOW.
CAN WE PAUSE MAYBE, AND GO BACK AND APPROVE THOSE MINUTES? YOU CAN GO BACK AND APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE MINUTES.
AND, UH, JUST TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT HERE, UM, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK AND, UH, TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AND THANK YOU MS. GREEN, FOR MAKING THE EFFORT TO BE HERE.
AND NOW WE HAVE CHALLENGES IN OUR LIVES WITH FAMILY AND CHILDREN.
AND SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS GONNA BE HERE, AND SHE ASKED ME IF THEY WERE CHILDREN ALLOWED TO COME TO THIS MEETING, AND I CERTAINLY ENCOURAGED THAT.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'VE GOT, UH, SOME YOUNGER FOLKS IN, IN THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY BE ONE DAY CHAIRMAN OR PRESIDENT, UH, OF THE UNITED STATES.
SO THIS IS A GOOD ENVIRONMENT, I THINK, FOR, FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO BE IN.
I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
MR. MALIK, UH, MAKES THE MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND? MR. HINTS SECONDS.
ALL IN FAVOR, JUST BY SHOW OF HANDS.
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AND THE OTHER IS THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR REGULAR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER THE 12TH.HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH THOSE MINUTES.
IF THERE'S NO REVISIONS, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION MR. MALIK SECOND, WE'LL, UH, MAKE THE MOTION AND MR. CAMPBELL WILL SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY AS WELL.
NOW, DO I NEED TO WAIT ON THE OTHER ITEM? I GUESS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION FOR THE, THE MEETING CALENDAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET THAT ONE OR NOT, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF MY MEMBERS HAVE TO LEAVE.
THEY HAVE SOME, SOME CONSTRAINTS.
UH, BACK TO THE, THE MID ISLAND, UH, REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
UH, I WANNA START WITH MY COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE DIAS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR, FOR ANDREW OR FOR BRIAN? MR. LIK I'LL START WITH YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY I HEARD A LOT, LOT OF, A LOT OF GOOD, A LOT OF GOOD, UM, INFORMATION THAT WE HAD BEEN, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED, YOU, YOU, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER IN YOUR COMMENTARY ABOUT SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAD WANTED FROM A TWO YEAR CONVERSATION.
I JUST WANT US TO KNOW THAT, THAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, THE TIMES SPAN OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS GO BACK WAY, WAY, WAY FURTHER THAN TWO YEARS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT, BUT I HEARD A LOT OF DECENT, GOOD INFORMATION.
UM, ONE, ONE IDEA THAT WE WANTED TO EXPRESS TOO WAS, I RECALL WHEN WE WERE IN THE COMMUNITY TALKING ABOUT THE OVERLAY THAT OVERLAY WAS, WAS INTENDED TO BE MORE OF A CONCEPT AS IT WAS A PHYSICAL MM-HMM.
SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT, THAT THAT CONCEPT, THAT IDEA IS PROGRESSING TOWARDS THAT.
AND THEN I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE WOULD BE, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ACCEPTED FOR THIS MID PROJECT WHEN THEY HAVE APPLICATION IN OTHER AREAS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA.
RIGHT NOW, FOCUSING PURELY ON THAT, BUT I THINK IF, IF THIS, UM, MEETS WITH APPROVAL, I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE THAT MORE COULD BE DONE ELSEWHERE.
SO THAT WOULD PRESUMABLY BE KIND OF OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SEAN MAY WANT SAY MORE THINGS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE MID ISLAND TRACK IS THE FIRST, UH, SORT OF INITIATIVE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, WE'LL LOOK AT OTHER, UM, OTHER DISTRICTS AND THEN STITCH TOGETHER INTO A GROWTH FRAMEWORK AND ED MASTER PLAN.
BUT, SO I THINK IT'S, UM, WE'LL LEARN FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THAT HAVE EMERGED.
AND, UH, WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL HERE IN NOVEMBER 1ST, BUT THEY COULD APPLY IT TO OTHER AREAS.
SO, SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR MM-HMM.
AND YOU'RE SAYING TO ME THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY'S GONNA BE THERE.
YEAH, WE BELIEVE THAT WE, THE, IT'S TAKEN SOME TIME TO GET THIS FIRST DISTRICT TO A POSITION WHERE WE'RE READY TO BRING IT FORWARD, UM, FOR REVIEWING, FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT WE, UM, WILL IDENTIFY AND MOVE FORWARD, WILL MOVE FORWARD MORE QUICKLY.
UM, I TH I BELIEVE THAT THE RM FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THAT ARE INCLUDED, UM, AND, AND DISCUSSED HERE TODAY, UH, THERE WILL BE APPLICATION, UM, THAT MAKE SENSE, UM, AND OTHER AREAS OUTSIDE OF THIS DISTRICT IN THE FUTURE.
UM, ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE OUR COUNCILMAN AMES.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AS WELL.
UH, JOYCE WRIGHT IS ALSO ONE OF OUR MEMBERS THAT WAS OUT FOR A WHILE.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO JOIN US ON THE DI IF YOU'D LIKE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I, I THINK THE THING THAT, THAT I'M CHEWING ON IS, SO, SO YOU'VE, THERE'S INHERENTLY CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
ANYTIME YOU HAVE A A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT MORE DENSITY.
SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT MORE QUIET, SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES.
SOME PEOPLE SAY NO, THIS IS, UH, RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UM, AND THEN SO YOU'VE MADE THE DETERMINATION 75 RESIDENTIAL 25 COMMERCIAL.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE RM FOUR AND, AND IN YOUR PROPOSALS, I KNOW YOU, I
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KNOW YOU, UM, SURVEYED MANY FROM WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITIES.DO YOU THINK THAT YOU HAVE CONSENSUS OR DO, OR DO YOU THINK, UM, THAT YOU DON'T? YEAH, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
UM, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE, UH, EXPLORE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, CHANGE OF THE ZONING CODE.
I THINK THERE'D BE MORE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION TO FOLLOW THAT.
SO THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS PLAN.
THE, THE ZONING CODE IS, SO I THINK THERE WOULD NEED TO BE MORE CONVERSATION AROUND THAT ZONING CODE CHANGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIRECTION FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN BOTH THE REPORTS HAVE BEEN DONE AND THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD FROM, FROM THE COMMUNITY.
YEAH, IT CERTAINLY WANT, WANT THEIR BUYIN MORE THAN OUR BUYIN, CUZ THEY'RE LIVING THERE.
SO YEAH, WE'RE AT THE RECOMMENDATION STAGE.
UH, AND, AND SO THERE'S, LIKE I SAID, MORE WORK TO BE DONE WHEN YOU GET TO CHANGING AN ORDINANCE.
OKAY, MS. GREEN, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO HOLD THEM AT THIS TIME? SURE.
YEAH, I WAS WONDERING, HAVE YOU TALKED TO INDIVIDUALS WHO IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND WHAT THEIR VIEW THAT WAS IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE, THE DISTRICT? YEAH, WE HAD A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MEETING, UH, IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, UH, AS WELL AS SOME STAKEHOLDER CONVERSATIONS.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE BASIS OF THAT AND, AND LOOKING AT THE PRESERVATION REPORT.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS AND, UH, MAYBE THERE'S A QUESTION IN THERE, BUT, UH, AGAIN, I WANNA THANK YOU GENTLEMEN FOR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION IN THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
UH, WHICH DOES SEEM TO INCORPORATE A LOT OF, UH, WITHIN THE, UH, GULLAH GE CHI, UH, CULTURAL PRESERVATION REPORT.
UM, THERE IS A LOT OF MOVEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT, AS YOU MENTIONED, OF THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH WE THINK WILL HELP TO, UM, GIVE SOME FOLKS SOME MORE RESOURCES AND HOPEFULLY A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT, UM, THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST FOR FOLKS THAT WANT TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THEIR LAND.
UH, UH, MR. MALIK, AND, AND ALSO MR. HINTS, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WILL START WITH THE CONCENTRATION AROUND THE STONY AREA, BUT AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO, UH, THE TOTAL ISLAND AND ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, AND I, I'D JUST LIKE YOU TO MAYBE REITERATE THE POINT ABOUT THE, THE RM FOUR AND THE SIX UNITS, AND IF YOU HAVE, I BELIEVE FIVE ACRES OR MORE, THAT YOU CAN, UH, CERTAINLY INCREASE THAT DENSITY IN THAT USAGE.
SO, UH, ARE YOU SPEAKING TO WHAT'S THERE NOW? YES.
YEAH, BECAUSE I, I DO BELIEVE SOME OF THAT IS BEING LOOKED AT AS WELL, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? SO YEAH, UNDER ARMED FOUR TODAY, DEPENDING ON YOUR PARCEL SIZE, IT'S EVERYTHING FROM FOUR TO EIGHT.
AND SO, UH, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WE'RE MAKING IS REGARDLESS OF YOUR PARCEL SIZE, IT'S SIX TO EIGHT.
UM, SO THAT THERE'S NOT THIS SLIDING SCALE, DEPENDING ON PARCEL SIZE, IT'S, IT'S CONSISTENT.
YOU, EVERYONE HAS THE SAME ABILITIES EVERYBODY ELSE HAS.
UH, AND SO THAT'S A, A WAY OF SORT OF SIMPLIFYING THE, THE, THE RULES.
AND HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU GUYS HAD A CHANCE, UH, UH, TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT MAYBE SOME TEST SITES TO SEE EXACTLY.
CUZ LOOK, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES ARE NOT PERFECTLY SHAPED.
AND THAT'S ALWAYS OUR CHALLENGE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE DIDN'T WANNA BE PRESUMPTUOUS IN, IN DRAW THINGS ON PEOPLE'S, PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES.
UM, I THINK AS YOU LOOK AT GRASSLAND, THAT'S THE MOST UNIFORM PROBABLY OF, OF, OF ALL OF THEM.
AND AGAIN, SOMEONE'S CHOICE WHETHER THEY WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT.
BUT I THINK AS YOU LOOK AT THIS ONE, UH, WHERE THEY'VE SORT OF TAKEN THAT, UM, LITTLE OVER THREE ACRE PARCEL, UM, YOU KNOW, FITTING 18 TO 20 UNITS THERE, IT SEEMS PRETTY REASONABLE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU JUST WANTED TO SORT OF VISUALIZE A COPY AND PASTE OF THAT ON SOME OF THOSE OTHER SIMILARLY SIZED PARCELS, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, YOU COULD WIND UP ANOTHER 20, 30, 40, 60 UNITS IF SOMEONE WANTED TO DO THAT.
UH, AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AS FAR AS WE'VE, WE'VE GONE TO JUST SORT OF SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF, UH, I THINK AS WE SORT OF DID SOME BACK THE ENVELOPE JUST TO SEE HOW IMPACTFUL THIS CHANGE MIGHT BE, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF IF PEOPLE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ON THEIR PROPERTIES, THERE COULD BE ANOTHER TWO TO 400 UNITS POTENTIALLY.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S REALLY CURSORY.
IT'S NOT, THERE'S SCIENCE BEHIND IT.
UH, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION
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THAT THERE WAS SOME IMPACT THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, UH, TO FOLKS.AND SO, NOT SAYING THAT'LL HAPPEN, BUT, UM, IT SEEMS IN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY IF, IF PEOPLE SO CHOSE.
UH, AND YOU'D ALSO MENTIONED SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR, AS IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, THE, UH, COMMERCIAL PART, THE COMMERCIAL USES OF PROPERTY, BUT YOU'D ALSO MENTIONED THE OPPORTUNITY MAYBE FOR LIKE SOME OPEN AIR MARKETS AND OTHER, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD USES.
AND YOU DO HAVE THAT IN YOUR PLAN.
I JUST WANT YOU TO KINDA MAYBE, UH, RE-EXPLAIN THAT FOR US AGAIN AS WELL.
SO THAT RECOMMENDATION WAS FROM, OR THOSE USES, THAT SORT OF LIST OF USES YOU GAVE WAS FROM THE PRESERVATION REPORT.
UH, AND THOSE, THAT'S SORT OF THE BASELINE OF WHAT, WHEN WE SAY WE JUST SORT OF COLLAPSED AT THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL HOME BASED BUSINESSES, SO THAT, THAT SORT OF ENCOMPASSES THE, THE RANGE THAT WAS IN THE PRESERVATION REPORT.
I MEAN, CUZ LATELY WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, SUCH THINGS AS POPUP MARKETS.
SO I'VE HEARD AND, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST FLEA MARKET TYPE THINGS OR EVEN THE, UM, UM, UH, THE, UH, VEGETABLES, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, THE GARDEN MARKETS THAT AND OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT.
SO THERE WILL BE SOME, SOME CHANCES FOR PEOPLE TO CONSIDER THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND AND YOU'LL BE WORKING ALONG WITH, UH, STAFF I'M SURE TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE CODES AND THINGS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE CHANGED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
LADY AND GENTLEMEN, AGAIN, I'M BRIAN KINSMAN, UH, ANDREW'S BUSINESS PARTNER.
UM, JUST, JUST ONE LAST COMMENT RELATIVE TO THE EARLIER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, UH, THE DENSITY ISSUE.
WE FELT IT WAS EQUITABLE TO HAVE THIS, THIS DENSITY STANDARD, UH, SO THAT SMALLER PARCELS AREN'T BEING, UH, PUNISHED QUITE FRANKLY.
I THINK ALSO WITH THE INSTITUTION OF A DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH I THINK IS GONNA BE TREMENDOUS WITH A FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS TO BRING SOME, UH, CONSULTATION AND SOME IMPETUS AND SOME MAYBE FINANCING TO THAT, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUAL PARCEL OWNERS ALSO TO ASSEMBLE, COME TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR, THEIR COLLECTIVE PARCELS.
UH, SO THAT WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH JUST THIS PIECE AND THAT PIECE.
CERTAINLY WE'VE GOT THE WHEREWITHAL TO DO SO AS EXHIBITED BY THIS, UH, THIS, UH, IMAGE ON THE WALL.
SO PUTTING THOSE, UH, MAYBE LARGER COMBINED PROPERTIES TOGETHER TO THREE ACRE PARCELS INTO ONE SIX ACRE PARCEL IS GONNA GIVE YOU MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT.
AND I THINK THE MARKET, THE MARKET FORCES WILL DETERMINE WHERE SOME OF THESE, UH, COMMERCIAL, UM, UH, USES MAKE SENSE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE THING IN RETAIL THAT IS CONSISTENT AND THAT IS, UH, VISIBILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY AND CONVENIENCE.
SO PROBABLY NOT EVERY PARCEL WITHIN THIS CONVERSATION WILL HAVE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT COMMERCIAL USAGE, BUT THERE ARE SOME, UH, LOVELY AND HIGHLY VISIBLE AND UM, UH, DESIRABLE PLACES WHERE THAT COULD TAKE PLACE.
AND THAT JUST GOES TO FURTHER THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND DISPLAY THE CULTURE AND THE HISTORY OF THE PLACE AS WELL, WHICH IS THE LENS WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING THROUGH WHEN IT COMES TO THIS DISTRICT.
UM, ONE LAST, UH, QUESTION OR COMMENT TO, UM, I'M HOPING THAT AS WE MOVE ALONG ALL OF US IN, IN THIS WORK, THAT WE ARE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY IN THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE CULTURALLY SPEAKING, UH, A LOT OF OUR BUSINESSES ARE NOT ALWAYS, UH, CLEARLY MARKED, UH, NOT A LOT OF NEON SIGNS FLASHING THAT ASSIST A BUSINESS.
THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO THROUGH RESEARCH WITH STAFF HERE, UH, AT THE TOWN TO IDENTIFY THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES AND WHERE PEOPLE MAY BE WANTING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DOING A HOME BUSINESS OR USING THEIR PROPERTIES TO DO, UH, THAT PART OF COMMERCIAL AND THEN SEE IF WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE AND, AND GIVE THEM SOME CONSULTATION TOO ABOUT HOW TO USE THEIR PROPERTIES, UH, COMMERCIALLY AS WELL.
UH, SO I DEFINITELY AM VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT.
UM, AND I CERTAINLY HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT ESPECIALLY MR. BARNWELL, WHO I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT BE A PICTURE OF ONE OF HIS DEVELOPMENTS ACTUALLY, WHO HAS BEEN A MODEL IN THE COMMUNITY FOR, UH, LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT.
AND CERTAINLY AS WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WITH, UM, AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING, I WAS JUST IN A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE OVER THE WEEKEND AND I WAS OUT OF TOWN AND THEY WERE CERTAINLY UNDER THE, UH, MISCONCEPTION OF WHAT AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING IS ON HILTON HEAD.
AND THE QUESTION WAS, IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON HILTON HEAD A MILLION DOLLARS? SO WE HOPE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT NEED AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION WHERE WE CAN HAVE, UH, UM, FOLKS WHO CAN LIVE HERE AND WORK HERE AND NOT JUST BE SHIPPED IN HERE
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TO WORK AND THEN SHIPPED OFF THE ISLAND MM-HMM.IF THERE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES, I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I COULD OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC TO SEE IF I'M SORRY, MS. GREEN, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? GOOD.
UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, TALKING ABOUT THE RM FOUR.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF THE PICTURES THAT YOU HAVE UP HERE, AND I UNDERSTAND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MID ISLAND, AND I KIND OF WANNA GO BACK TO HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS? UM, AND I GUESS AS A CASE STUDY, BECAUSE AS I LOOK UP THERE, A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T LOOK LIKE WHAT'S THERE NOW.
AND THEN THAT'S A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, WHEREAS MODULARS OR MOBILE HOMES IN SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE ALREADY THERE.
SO HOW DOES THIS SIX TO EIGHT PARCELS, REGARDLESS OF THE PARCEL SIZE AND OR THE BUSINESSES FIT INTO THAT? I LIKE TO SEE MORE OF A MIXTURE MM-HMM.
UM, EXACTLY WHAT'S IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS NOW AND WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE PROPERTY THERE.
THIS IS UPCOMING, UM, AS TO WHAT WE'RE THINKING TO DO MM-HMM.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, SO ANY I FEEDBACK ON THAT? YEAH, I I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, WE CERTAINLY NEED TO ADDRESS IS WHAT WE CALL NATURALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THERE TODAY THAT'S AFFORDABLE THAT PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THAT IS A HOME, UH, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT TO ACKNOWLEDGE.
AND THE OTHER THING, UH, KIND OF LIKE TO PIGGYBACK ON WAS YES, I SAW THAT, UM, THERE WAS A PHOTO UP THERE OF MR. BARNWELLS WHO WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE, HE, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE HE HAS THAT'S BEEN GREAT TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO I'M, I AL I ALSO SOMETIME IN CONVERSATION WONDER WHY IS THIS CONVERSATION SO HARD WHEN IT'S BEEN DONE? YEAH.
I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF LIVING IN ONE OF HIS MM-HMM.
UM, AND THAT KIND OF BRINGS UP CONVERSATION BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE, I FROM WHERE I WORK AND I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, THE UPCOMING UNITS THAT ARE IN THE STONEY AREA AND THE CASE STUDY THAT THEY WANT TO DO, UM, COMPARING IT TO LIKE THE WORKFORCE.
LIKE, I'M JUST STILL, LIKE MR. LEVON SAID, YOU KNOW, THE COST AND WHO DOES IT FIT? YEP.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL PART OF THE CONVERSATION IS WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING? I'D SAY WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK REALLY IMPORTANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM, FROM THIS WORK IS WHEN WE ASK THE OPEN QUESTION, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GIVING PEOPLE A, B, C, D, E CHOOSE ONE.
PEOPLE BROUGHT UP WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AGAIN, WE NEED A COMMON DEFINITION FOR THESE PHRASES, BUT THE PEOPLE CHOSE THAT OF THEIR OWN VOLITION.
YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GIVE THAT AS A CHOICE.
I THINK REPRESENTS A COMMUNITY, UNDERSTANDS US AS AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THOSE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WORK HERE WITH HOUSING.
UM, SO I I I TAKE THAT AS A POSITIVE SIGN THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THERE'S A ISSUE HERE.
UM, DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? ALL RIGHT.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT FOR MR. BARNWELL? GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR GREAT VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY FOR THE RECORDS.
MY NAME IS THOMAS C BARNWELL, JR.
UM, I'M HERE BECAUSE FIRST I'D LIKE TO GET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ON NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE IN THE GRASSLAND AREA.
AND SECONDLY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
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I SAW A PHOTO OF S TUB APARTMENT ON SCREEN LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES AGO.THE NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE, ATS BEACH TUB APARTMENTS, AS IS, WAS NOT APPROVED BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE NUMBER OF UNITS AT THAT TIME WAS APPROVED BY THE BEAUFORT COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
PLEASE NOTE FOR THE RECORD CORRECTION, DON'T ASSUME THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD PLANNING COMMISSION.
AT THAT TIME, THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD WAS JUST COMING INTO EXISTENCE.
NOW, AS THAT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE CONSULTANT, PLEASE MAKE THAT CORRECTION.
I DO NOT WANT THE BASE OF THE PLANNING BY THIS CONSULTING FIRM TO, IN ANY WAY CREATE A PROBLEM FOR THE BE GRASSLAND AND ANY OTHER COMMUNITY ON HILTON HEAD TO DIMINISH THE NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE.
THAT'S WHY IT'S SO CRITICAL FOR THAT INFORMATION TO BE A PART COULD BE CORRECTED AS A PART OF THE RECORDS FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
SEWER WAS NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL MANY YEARS LATER.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TO DO THE RESEARCH CALLED PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, THEY WILL GIVE YOU THE EXACT DATE SUE WAS BROUGHT TO S TUB APARTMENTS.
NOW MY QUESTION, THANK YOU FOR THAT CORRECTION, SIR.
I'M HONORED TO BE OF SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE SERVICE.
MY QUESTION, LET ME SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE PLANETS.
LET ME SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
THERE'S A GENTLEMAN IN THE COMMUNITY NAMED FORWARD, ALWAYS EXPECT ME TO ASK THIS QUESTION.
WOULD THE CONSULTANTS OR THE TOWN STAFF AT SOME POINT BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO THE GRASSLAND AS WELL AS THE BIG HILL AREA RESIDENCE VERBALLY IN WRITING OR OTHERWISE? HOW WILL THE PLANNING THAT IS BEING PLANNED FOR LAND USE BE ABLE TO BENEFIT? HOW WILL THE UN, THE, THE RESIDENTS WHO OWN LAND IN THOSE AREAS, HOW WILL THE RESIDENTS BENEFIT FROM POSITIVE DRAINAGE OF THEIR PROPERTIES? PLEASE.
AND THE REASON I'M RAISING THIS QUESTION, THOSE OF US WHO OWN LAND IN THOSE AREAS, UNION CEMETERY ROAD, BEN WHITE DRIVE, AS WELL AS THE BIG HILL AREA, WE HAVE NOT HAD DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA FOR MANY YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA RESPOND NOW IF YOU JUST TAKING NOTES, BUT, UH, YEAH, UH, EMBEDDED IN, UH, ALL HIS RECOMMENDATIONS AS IMPROVEMENTS TO INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AS, AS, AS HE'S, AS HE'S NOTED, STORM WATER, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING KEY AMONG THOSE.
SO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT INFRASTRUCTURE BE UPGRADED, AND THAT, THAT INCLUDE, THAT WOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, STORM WATER, IT WOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, STREETS AND, AND OTHER, OTHER, UM, MISSING PIECES THAT, THAT AREN'T
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THERE TODAY.SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION IN THE PLAN.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC, UH, HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? YES, SIR.
UM, ANDRE WHITE HERE, ANDRE WHITE, UH, LAND OWNER IN MITCHELLVILLE AND ALSO GRASSLAND ALSO REPRESENT MY FAMILY'S, UH, TRUST IN ESTATE.
AND, UH, I DON'T REALLY HAVE QUESTIONS.
I HAVE COMMENTS OF, OF THINGS THAT I TOOK NOTES ON, UM, THAT IS OMITTED, UM, AND SHOULD BE LOOKED AT, UM, AND INCLUDED.
SO FIRST SHINY, ECHOING YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, LIKE WHATEVER TYPE OF CODE SHOULD HAVE, UH, FLEXIBILITY FOR MODULAR AND MOBILE HOMES, UM, BECAUSE THEY COME IN DIFFERENT SIZES, THEY'RE PREMADE AND THEY DO NOT, YOU CANNOT BUILD A BUILDING TO THAT.
UM, SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS A PART OF, OF THE CONVERSATION IN THE RULES.
UH, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF LANDOWNERS STRUGGLE WITH GETTING MOBILE HOMES, UH, UH, PERMITTED HERE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, THE SHAPES AND THE SIZES AND THE BUFFERS AND SETBACKS.
UM, THE SECOND THING I HAVE, UM, IS PARKING.
I KNOW THAT THEY SAID PARKING IS FORTHCOMING, BUT PARKING IS VERY, UH, UH, ONEROUS WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? SO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME HAS LESS PARKING RESTRICTIONS THAN MULTI-FAMILY, CUZ MULTI-FAMILY IS BASED ON BEDROOMS, SO IN COMMERCIALS BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO LET'S, LET'S NOT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DENSITY IS SIX UNITS TO 10 UNITS PER ACRE, LET'S ACTUALLY TRY TO HONE IN ON WHAT PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE GONNA BE THERE.
AND NOT, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S NOT KICK THAT DOWN, THAT DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE YOU WILL CREATE, YOU KNOW, ZONING AND, AND PARCELS WHERE YOU CAN'T BUILD COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL TOGETHER BECAUSE OF THAT.
SO THAT'S ONE THING WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD CHECK IN.
THE THIRD THING I HAVE HERE IS BUFFER AND SETBACK.
UH, AGAIN, NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD PUT DOWN, PUNT DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, AND WE SHOULD NOT JUST LOOK AT THE SORT OF THE 50% REDUCTIONS THAT'S IN THE CODE.
NOW LET'S LOOK AT LIKE, OKAY, IT'S FIVE FEET, IT'S 10 FEET, IT'S, YOU KNOW, 15 FEET OFF PROPERTY LINES, NOT THIS SORT OF 50% REDUCTION.
AND IT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT WITH COMMERCIAL BECAUSE COMMERCIAL MAYBE WE WANT TO BUILD CLOSER TO THE STREET.
UM, THESE BIKE PATHWAYS, AS YOU SEE DURING THE SUMMER, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TALK ABOUT WALKABILITY AND CONNECTIVITY.
LET'S NOT HAVE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WHERE IT'S 50 FEET AWAY FROM, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OR FROM THE STREET.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE IN MY OPINION.
UM, ANOTHER THING I THOUGHT OF OR I HEARD, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT GIVING CHURCHES FLEXIBILITY FOR, FOR MIXED USES ON CHURCH PROPERTY.
CHURCHES SHOULD ALSO BE, THEY HONE SIGNIFICANT LAND HOLDINGS AND SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO ECONOMICALLY BENEFIT FROM MIXING OF USES ON THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, JUST LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT ASSET AND THE USE OF THAT DURING THE WEEK, UM, NOT JUST ON SUNDAYS AND AND EVENINGS.
UM, AND THE LAST THING IS, UH, ON THE, FROM AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING STANDPOINT, THE BONUS DENSITY IS, IT'S CURRENTLY RENT IS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S FOR LARGER PARCELS.
SO LET'S EVEN A SMALLER PARCEL WHERE THEY COULD BENEFIT FROM ONE EXTRA UNIT OF BONUS DENSITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONUS DENSITY, UH, IS, UH, FOR SMALLER PARCELS AS WELL.
ANYONE ELSE? MR. SCOTT? AFTERNOON, UM, TAIWAN, SCOTT, UM, I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS THAT'S GOING FORWARD.
UM, OF COURSE, UH, ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY IS, IS ONE OF MY, UM, MAIN, UH, CONCERNS AND, UM, DESIGN STANDARDS.
I, WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BONUS ENTITIES OR, OR, OR AVERAGE, UM, BASE DENSITY.
BUT, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE MORE CONSIDERATION INTO THE STANDARDS THAT'S GONNA BE THERE, THAT'S GONNA BE APPLIED WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO, UM, KNOWING THAT WE ARE HERE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, UM, YOU ARE COMING INTO A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR, UM, A POTENTIAL, I GUESS YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MIXED USE COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, HOW IS THAT FAMILY GONNA BE ABLE TO ADVERTISE THAT THEY'RE THERE? UM, WE DON'T WANNA JUST BLEND IN THE WAY EVERYTHING IS.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU COME TO OUR DEVELOPMENTS, YOU'RE IN A CULTURAL SIGNIFICANT LOCATION IN A CULTURAL SIGNIFICANT, UH, AREA, AND YOU ARE, AND YOU ARE PARTICIPATING AND YOU ARE SUPPORTING THAT NATIVE ISLAND BUSINESS.
SO DESIGN STANDARDS AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA BE ALLOWED TO BE THERE, HOW WE ADVERTISE, UH, THAT WE ARE THERE, AND, UH, JUST HAVING OUR PRESENCE MORE OF ON, ON THE FOREFRONT AND I APPRECIATE
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IT.UM, ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU ALSO VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
EVERYTHING DID WORK AND, UM, SOME OF US WORK A LITTLE BIT HARDER THAN SOME.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, I'M LOUISE MILLER COHEN.
I, I HAVE A QUESTION, AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I HAVE A QUESTION THAT'S NOT CLEAR, I HIT THE LEAVE WHERE I CAN GET SOME INFORMATION AND WE WONDER IS I TRAVEL HOME AND STILL DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, UM, OF COURSE, LIKE SHAWN SAID, WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE, WHETHER THIS MOBILE HOME OR WHATEVER, BUT NOW WE HAVE, SOME PEOPLE HAVE MO UM, SINGLE, UM, AND SOME HAVE DOUBLE.
NOW, WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT THE SIX TO EIGHT UNITS ON THE ACRE, THAT THAT INCLUDES BOTH, WHETHER YOU HAVE A SINGLE OR DOUBLE UNIT ON THAT PROPERTY, I JUST WANT, NEED SOME CLARITY ON THAT.
SO I'LL JUST THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE ANSWER TO HELP ME TO, UM, KNOW WHEN I LEAVE HOME, BECAUSE SEE, WHEN WE ARE AT THESE MEETINGS, UH, WE ARE HERE FOR OURSELVES AND FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR FAMILIES WHO CAN'T COME.
OKAY? SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I JUST NEED TO HAVE SOME, SOME CLEAR INFORMATION TO TAKE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
WELL, WE CAN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, REEMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH.
SO IF THAT A STAFF QUESTION OR CONSULTANT, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO FEEL THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, EACH RESIDENTIAL UNIT COUNTS COUNCILS ONE, AND SO IF YOU HAVE, UH, I'M TRYING TO, UM, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOBILE HOMES, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SINGLE MOBILE HOMES VERSUS DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE HOMES? EACH ONE OF THOSE ACCOUNT IS ONE, IF IT'S A UNIT THAT IT'S LIKE A DUPLEX, WHICH HAS TWO, TWO UNITS, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, UH, TWO SIDES OF ONE LARGER STRUCTURE.
EACH ONE OF THOSE UNITS COUNTS AS ONE.
SO A SORT OF A, A TWO FAMILY DWELLING IS TWO DWELLINGS.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MS. COOL.
AND WHILE SHE'S COMING, I WANNA REMINDS THOSE WHO MAY HAVE COME IN LATE, THAT WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING AT FIVE O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON, UH, WITH THE CONSULTANTS AT THE HILTON HEAD LIBRARY.
UM, MY NAME IS ALICE STEWART DUNLAP, AND, UM, I CAME IN LATE, SO MAYBE I NEED TO COME TO THE SECOND MEETING IF I CAN FIND TIME.
BUT, UH, THERE WAS A LOT THAT WAS CONFUSING TO ME ABOUT THIS MEETING.
ONE THING, WELL, THE QUESTION THAT I DO HAVE IS, UM, THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MID, MID ISLAND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE ISLAND.
STONY, STONY WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT, THAT'S NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR EFFORT HERE WITH THESE, UH, BUT, UM, THAT'S OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
SEE, I DON'T HEAR THE, THE GENERAL ANSWER WAS IS THAT THE ECONOMIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS COMING ONLINE WILL HELP TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS AS WELL.
AND I SHOULD PROBABLY LET SOMEONE FROM STAFF GIVE ME A BETTER ANSWER.
AND I WAS ALSO GONNA ASK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
WHEN, OR IS IT ALREADY ONLINE? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN CAN WE ACCESS THAT? CUZ IT PROBABLY WILL ANSWER WHAT I DON'T KNOW FROM THIS MEETING.
BE HAPPY TO, UH, TRY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
UH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT.
THAT WAS AN EVALUATION OF THE DISTRICT, INCLUDING THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT, UH, TO COME UP WITH SOME, UH, MORE CONSISTENT LAND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, THE, THE, THE PLAN, WHICH IS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, IS TO, UM, IS TO COMPLETE THIS DISTRICT AND THEN TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND TO DO SIMILAR WORK, UM, AND THEN BRING THAT TOGETHER THROUGH, UH, A GROWTH FRAMEWORK AND THEN AN ISLAND WIDE MASTER PLAN TO PROVIDE THAT CONSISTENCY, THAT FUTURE LAND USE AND EXPECTATION LONG TERM FOR THE ENTIRE ISLAND.
UM, NOW THE SECOND PART OF THAT, THE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE, ON SEPTEMBER 20TH TO MOVE FORWARD
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WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.UM, AND AGAIN, AS, AS CHAIRMAN STEVENS MENTIONED, THE PRIMARY FOCUS INITIALLY, I BELIEVE WILL BE IN THE STONY COMMUNITY, BUT APPLICATION BEYOND THAT, UM, WILL OCCUR AT SOME TIME.
THE APPROVAL BY TOWN COUNCIL ALLOWS US TO SUBMIT THE, THE PAPERWORK TO OFFICIALLY CREATE THAT.
UM, THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS WITH IDENTIFYING A BOARD, AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DEVELOPING A BUDGET, AND THAT'LL, THAT'LL MOVE FORWARD HERE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS SO THAT, THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.
UM, AND THERE'LL BE SOME BENEFITS HERE IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH THAT EFFORT.
I HEAR YOU TALKING ABOUT, UH, PLANNING FOR THREE ACRES OR FIVE ACRES.
WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS STUDY IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN THAT? WHAT CAN YOU DO TO DEVELOP THAT? UM, I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH WHATEVER YOUR SPECIFIC ACREAGE IS.
UM, SEAN COLE, AGAIN, ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION.
SO WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S INCLUDED FROM THE CONSULTANTS, UM, AND THROUGH DEVELOPMENT OF LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY IS TO NO LONGER HAVE THAT DIFFERENCE, WHERE IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN THREE ACRES, IT'S FOUR UNITS PER ACRE, AND THEN THREE TO FIVE, IT'S SIX, AND THEN ABOVE FIVE IT CAN BE EIGHT.
IT'S TO CREATE A MORE CONSISTENT LAND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO IF YOU OWN LESS THAN THREE ACRES, THE DENSITY THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED IS BETWEEN SIX AND EIGHT UNITS.
NOW, I THINK WE'LL ASK COUNCIL TO, UM, WITH THE ADDITIONAL INPUT TODAY AND TONIGHT, UM, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO COUNCIL.
UM, THAT'S IN THAT SIX TO EIGHT RANGE.
UM, AND SO IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER PARCEL, UH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DEVELOP AT THAT SIX TO EIGHT, UM, DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
IF COUNCIL APPROVES NOW, AS ANDREW AND BRIAN MENTIONED, IT DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT NOVEMBER 1ST.
THAT'S BLESSING FROM COUNCIL THAT THE DISTRICT PLAN, UM, IS SUPPORTED AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD TO MODIFY THE CODE, UM, SO THAT IT'S LEGALLY PART OF THE ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY.
I HOPE THAT HELPED ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
I'M SURE IT WILL BE IN WRITING.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? YES, I, SORRY, I JUST THOUGHT OF ANOTHER THING.
UM, SO I SAW IN THERE THE, THE COMMERCIAL WAS CONSIDERED, UH, THE USE OF IT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, CAN WE TRY TO LOOK AT WAYS TO NOT HAVE, LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO START A BUSINESS, THEN YOU HAVE TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER LAYER OF, YOU KNOW, BUREAUCRACY SAYING LIKE, HEY, LIKE, IT'S YOUR LAND, BUT YOU KNOW, WE SAY IT'S BY RIGHT, BUT ACTUALLY IT'S NOT.
SO AS MUCH AS WE CAN, CAN MAKE US BY RIGHT.
AND NOT CONDITIONAL WHEN IT COMES TO THE MIXING OF USES, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD PUSH FOR THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND ACTUALLY IT'S KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT, WHAT SEAN MENTIONED, AND IT'S, UM, THERE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATION WITH, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA GO TO A SIX TO EIGHT, UH, DENSITY, THEN, UH, WHAT ABOUT AN INCENTIVE IF SOMEONE SLATES SOME OF THOSE UNITS FOR, UH, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM? UH, MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE AN INCENTIVE THERE THAT IF, IF THEY ALLOCATE THOSE UNITS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM FOR X AMOUNT OF YEARS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE STIPULATION IS, THEN THEY CAN GET SOME ADDITIONAL UNITS.
UH, I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S, I MEAN, WE ARE LOOKING, WE'RE KIND OF FOCUSED ON LARGE UNITS, BUT WE GOT A LOT OF SMALL, YOU KNOW, LOTS AROUND HERE THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE AND, AND HELP, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH SOME OF THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING ISSUES.
UH, IT SHOULDN'T JUST BE THE, THE BIG GUYS THAT'S GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY HERE.
SO IF YOU GOT, GOT SOME LOCAL, YOU KNOW, NATIVE ISLANDERS WHO HAVE SOME LAND AND THEY'RE WILLING TO, UM, SET ASIDE AND, AND, AND MEET THAT CRITERIA FOR, UM, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF UNITS TO BE SLATED FOR WORKFORCE, IF IT'S 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS, WHATEVER THE CRITERIA IS, UH, THAT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO RETAIN THEIR LAND.
UH, AND, AND JUST, IT JUST REALLY OPENS UP A DOOR OF, UM, HITTING A NICHE THAT WE ARE, THAT WE NEED TO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND CERTAINLY, UH, OUR CONSULTANTS DOING THE BEST THEY CAN.
BUT THAT PRESENTATION, AND I WELL ONCE AGAIN, REMIND YOU THAT FIVE O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON AT THE HILTON HEAD LIBRARY WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY
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TO ASK QUESTIONS AND TO GIVE SOME INPUT.IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, UM, WHICH IS THE, HES PROPERTY FEMA DISASTER RECOVERY, AND THAT IS PRESENTED BY MELDON HOLLIS AND GOING TO INTRODUCE MR. HOLLIS.
UM, HE, UM, I JUST MET HIM LAST WEEK.
HE'S GONNA GIVE YOU A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT FEMA HAS MADE, UM, TO DESIGNATE, UM, WHICH PROPERTIES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FEMA DISASTER RECOVERY.
I'M AWARE THAT MR. HOLLIS HAS ANOTHER, UH, ENGAGEMENT AND HE WILL HAVE TO BE REALLY QUICK TO GET OUTTA HERE ON TIME BY TWO 30, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. HOLLIS.
UH, MY NAME IS, UH, MELDON HOLLIS.
UM, I AM TRYING TO RETIRE, UM, THIS IS MY THIRD RETIREMENT.
MY GRANDDAUGHTER SAYS, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE HANG OF IT YET.
UM, MY LAST JOB WAS AS A PROFESSOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AT SAVANNAH STATE UNIVERSITY.
BEFORE THAT, I WORKED IN WASHINGTON AND I WAS ON THE STAFF OF CRAIG FUGATE WHEN HE WAS THE ADMINISTRATOR OF FEMA.
UH, THE POINT THAT I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE A POINT VERY QUICKLY AND THEN BACK INTO SOME FEMA POLICIES.
I'M NOT HERE TO REPRESENT, UH, FEMA.
I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, FEMA IN A VERY IMPORTANT POLICY CHANGE THAT IS SPECIFIC TO GULLAH GEECHEE AND THOSE WHO HOLD, UH, HE'S PROPERTY ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, UH, FEMA CHANGED A VERY IMPORTANT POLICY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HAD STORM DAMAGE AND WHO HAVE SUFFERED FROM THE AGRICULTURE DEPART AND WHO'VE DEALT WITH THE AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT.
THOSE WHO HELD AN INTEREST IN, UM, WHAT WE CALL HESS PROPERTY, OR WHO OCCUPIED HES PROPERTY, WERE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A RANGE OF SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
AND THE REASON, QUITE SIMPLY, IS BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT PROVIDE, UM, COULD NOT PROVIDE PROOF OF, UH, INSURABLE, UH, INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY.
AND SO YOU HAD THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM GOING ON WHEN FEMA WOULD COME INTO AN AREA, THEY WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF PROPERTY OWNERS.
THEY WOULD PROVIDE THEM WITH SUPPORT, UH, UNDER TWO PROGRAMS, UM, INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE AND PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.
BUT IF YOU COULD NOT PROVE THAT YOU HAD INSURABLE INTEREST IN PROPERTY, YOU SIMPLY WERE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE BENEFITS, UM, THAT FEMA PROVIDED.
UH, I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THAT AS OF SEPTEMBER 2ND, UH, THE FACT THAT THE POLICY HAS BEEN CHANGED MEANS THAT AN INDIVIDUAL MIGHT BE, UH, ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO $75,800 PER INCIDENT.
AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT HAS CHANGED AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT.
UM, ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, UH, FEMA UH, ANNOUNCED THIS POLICY CHANGED.
IT WAS NOT GIVEN A LOT OF NATIONAL ATTENTION, BUT IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, I WAS IN ATLANTA WITH THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR OF, UH, FEMA, AND THIS WAS REGION FOUR.
AND I SAT WITH HER AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, THE GULLAH GEECHEE, UH, CORRIDOR, THAT INFORMATION HAS NOT BEEN SPREAD.
AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION OTHER PEOPLE OUGHT TO, OUGHT TO KNOW.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT YOU GO TO DESIGNATE SOMEONE ON YOUR STAFF TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH THAT COMMUNITY.
MUCH TO MY SURPRISE, SHE DID THAT.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE A DIRECT LINE IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT ISSUES AS THEY AFFECT OWNERS OF, HE'S OF, UH, HE'S PROPERTY.
UM, TO START OUT ON, I THINK SOMETIME IN MARCH, HE SENT A DELEGATION OF EIGHT OR NINE PEOPLE FROM FEMA TO MEET WITH, UH, THESE COMMUNITIES.
AND WE HELD THAT MEETING OVER ON, UH, ST.
UM, AND, UM, THE SECOND THING THAT WE DID, UH, WAS WE GOT IN TOUCH WITH THE GULLAH GEE CULTURAL HERITAGE CORRIDOR AND ASKED THEM TO PUBLISH IN THEIR NEWSLETTER, THEN CHANGES, UH, AND TO MAKE THEM AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY GENERALLY.
NOW, I'M USED TO BEING TREATED LIKE THE DENTIST.
UM, THIS'S A GUY YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO TALK TO, AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO HIM, UH, IS NOT A VERY GOOD SITUATION.
UH, SO THAT, THAT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY.
UM, BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO IS, UH, AND, AND I'M A LITTLE HEARD BECAUSE I I DO HAVE ANOTHER APPOINTMENT, UM, IF I COULD GET THROUGH, UH, THIS PRESENTATION, UM, I WANT TO PROVIDE, LET'S SEE IF I CAN MOVE TO, UH, DOES IT MAKE THIS WORK? UH, COME ON.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ON THIS OPERATION.
WE OUGHT TO MAKE IT, IT WAS WORKING A
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MINUTE AGO.NOT GETTING THINK YOU YEAH, HE'LL FIX IT.
I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT WASN'T THE DELETE BUTTON.
UH, THAT WAS SEAN COLE'S
UM, OKAY, IT'S MR. MALIK HAS TO BE EXCUSED.
WHAT IS THIS? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
ONCE AGAIN, MISSY LEWIS SAVES THE DAY, UM, ONE TO TALK ABOUT TWO PROGRAMS. UM, THE WAY ONE BECOMES ELIGIBLE FOR ASSISTANCE FROM FEMA IS THAT THERE IS A PRESIDENTIAL DECLARED EMERGENCY.
UM, I'VE JUST FINISHED A REPORT ON E ON HURRICANE IAN COMING ON TO SHORE, UM, ON, IN HORRY COUNTY AND GEORGETOWN COUNTY IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
THERE THIS PROBLEM OF, UH, OF DEBRIS THAT HAS TO BE PICKED UP IN THERE, HOMES THAT ARE FLOODED.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DAMAGE TO HAVE A PRESIDENTIAL DECLARED DISASTER, SO THAT THERE WILL BE NO SUPPORT FROM FEMA IN THAT INSTANCE.
THE WAY FEMA WORKS IS IF THERE IS A PRESIDENTIAL DECLARED DISASTER, THEN FEMA COMES.
AND FEMA CAN'T JUST COME INTO A STATE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY HAVE TO BE REQUESTED BY THE GOVERNOR.
THE GOVERNOR GOES TO THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR AND SAYS, I HAVE DAMAGE IN MY STATE.
THE THE DAMAGE IS BEYOND WHAT THE STATE CAN HANDLE, AND I'M REQUESTING FEDERAL SUPPORT.
THAT REQUEST GOES UP TO THE, GOES UP TO WASHINGTON, IT GOES TO THE PRESIDENT, AND THE PRESIDENT HAS THE OPTION OF DECLARING, UH, PRESIDENTIAL DECLARED DISASTER.
ONCE THAT IS DONE, THREE PROGRAMS GO INTO EFFECT.
ONE IS CALLED PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.
ONE IS CALLED INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE, AND ONE IS CALLED MITIGATION.
PUBLIC ASSISTANCE UNDER THE, UNDER THE ACT THAT IS APPLICABLE IN THIS CASE.
UM, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL PROVIDE 75 TO 100% OF THE COST OF RECOVERY, WHERE THAT RANGES IS UP TO THE PRESIDENT.
AND IT ALSO, UM, HAS TO DO WITH HOW, WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE A GOOD FRIEND OF THE PRESIDENT OR NOT, YOU CAN GET ANYWHERE FROM 75% TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THE IMPORTANT THING, AND WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY IS WHAT WE CALL THE INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
PUBLIC ASSISTANCE GOES TO GOVERNMENTAL UNITS.
THEY COME IN, THEY TALK ABOUT DESTRUCTION OF SCHOOLS, THEY TALK ABOUT THE ROADS, THEY TALK ABOUT THE PARKS AND SO FORTH, AND THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR RECOVERY AND THE RECOVERY PHASE.
BUT ON THE INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE TWO THINGS.
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO THE INDIVIDUAL AND FINANCIAL AND DIRECT HOUSING ASSISTANCE SO THAT YOU SEE UNDER THE FI, UH, FINANCIAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND INDIVIDUAL IS ELIGIBLE FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
WELL, I MEAN, BY THAT IS IF YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE HOUSE AND YOU HAVE TO STAY SOMEPLACE ELSE, YOU HAVE TO RENT RENT SOMEPLACE ELSE.
FEMA WILL PAY 100% OF THAT LODGING EXPENSES, HOME REPAIR, UH, HOME REPAIR ASSISTANCE THAT IS PAID FOR.
AFTER YOU APPLY A FEMA, YOU ESTABLISH AN ACCOUNT, THE MONEY IS WIRED TO YOUR ACCOUNT, OR IN SOME CASES TO THE LANDLORD.
DIRECT HOUSING ASSISTANCE IS IF THERE IS DAMAGE TO THE HOMESTEAD.
AND THE IMPORTANT THING TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT, UH, IS YOU CAN MOVE INTO ANOTHER PLACE FOR GET A LEASE, OR, UH, YOU BRING IN TRANSPORTABLE, UH, HOUSING ONTO YOUR SPACE TO LIVE IN.
WHILE HOUSE IS BEING REPAIRED, A FEMA WILL PROVIDE THE TRAILER.
THE OTHER THING IS, IF YOU HAVE A LEASE SOMEPLACE ELSE DURING THE TIME THAT THE HOUSE IS BEING, UM, THAT THE HOUSE IS BEING REPAIRED, UM, WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR THIS, UH, FOR THIS ASSISTANCE, YOU HAVE TO BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, OR YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH SOMEONE WHO IS, THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT IS IF YOU MOVE TO THE COUNTRY RECENTLY, AND YOUR CHILD HAS BEEN BORN IN THE UNITED STATES, THAT CHILD IS A CITIZEN, AND THAT CHILD IS ENTITLED TO ALL OF THE BENEFITS.
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AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.SO YOU OFTEN HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN, BUT WHO CAN, WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ALL OF THE BENEFITS BECAUSE THE CHILD, UH, IS A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES.
THIS IS THE TRICKY PART I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT FOR A MINUTE.
YOU MUST PASS FEMA'S IDENTITY AND OCCUPANCY VERIFICATION HERE.
UH, UM, MY DAUGHTER HAS BEEN WORKING FOR FEMA FOR 18 YEARS.
I WORKED FOR HIM FOR FIVE YEARS.
MY NEPHEW'S BEEN WORKING FOR, FOR EIGHT YEARS, SO I'M PRETTY, PRETTY MUCH UP TO DATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
I HAD MY DAILY CONVERSATION WITH HER THIS MORNING WHILE WE WENT OVER THE FAMILY EMERGENCIES.
WE'LL WRAP THOSE UP SOMETIME IN THE AFTERNOON, BUT I ALSO GOT A SENSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH FEMA WHEN YOU CALL, WHEN YOU, THERE ARE THREE WAYS TO REGISTER FOR THESE PROGRAMS. ONE OF THEM IS ONLINE, THE OTHER IS BY PHONE.
THE OTHER IS IF THERE IS AN ECONOMIC OR, OR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER CLOSE BY, YOU CAN GO AND REGISTER ON PURPOSE.
IN EACH CASE, THE INFORMATION IS PUT INTO A COMPUTER.
WHEN THAT INFORMATION GOES INTO A COMPUTER, YOUR NAME, YOUR AGE, AND YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER MUST LINE UP.
IF THEY DO NOT LINE UP, YOU'RE KICKED OUT AND YOU HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN.
I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE THERE'S OFTEN SOME CONFUSION AND REGISTERING IF YOU LIVE IN A MULTI-FAMILY HOUSE, OKAY? THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERYBODY IN THE HOUSE CAN RUN DOWN TO FEMA AND QUALIFY FOR ALL OF THESE BENEFITS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE IS ONE HEAD THAT THE HOUSEHOLD, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GETS PEOPLE KICKED OUTTA THIS SYSTEM OFTEN IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO, WHO END UP SAYING, WELL, I, YOU KNOW, MY, I LIVE IN THE HOUSE.
AND THREE PEOPLE GO DOWN AND GIVE THE SAME LOCATION.
THOSE THREE LOCATIONS WILL BE CAUGHT IN THE FEMA REGISTRATION SYSTEM.
THE SYSTEM WILL BE KICKED OUT, AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN.
UH, THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPENED IS, UM, SOMEBODY DOWN THE STREET, UH, KNOWS YOUR SEARCH AND SECURITY NUMBER, AND I HAVE HAD MANY OCCASIONS WHERE YOU GO IN AND REGISTER AND WE FIND OUT THAT THAT NAME AND THAT ADDRESS HAS ALREADY BEEN REGISTERED.
THE OTHER THING THAT YOU WILL FIND, PARTICULARLY WITHIN COMMUNITIES, UH, THAT ARE LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND OR COMMUNITIES LIKE, UH, GULLAH AND GEECHEE COMMUNITIES, IS THAT THE ADDRESS DOES NOT LINE UP.
YOU MAY HAVE ONE ADDRESS ON YOUR, ON YOUR, UH, DRIVER'S LICENSE BECAUSE YOU LIVED THERE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
YOU'RE IN ANOTHER PLACE NOW, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS THE DAMAGE, BUT NOTHING IN THE, IN THE, UH, NOTHING IN PUBLIC RECORDS SHOW THAT YOU'VE EVER LIVED AT THIS PLACE.
AND SO YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK INTO THE SYSTEM AND CLEAR UP WHY THE NATIONAL INFORMATION SYSTEM SHOWING YOU HAD ONE ADDRESS AND YOU'RE CLAIMING DAMAGE FOR ANOTHER ADDRESS, YOU HAVE TO GO IN, UH, AND CLEAN THAT UP.
I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE THE GULLAH GEECHEE COMMUNITY NOT HAVING BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR THESE BENEFITS, HAS LOST TOUCH WITH THE AGENCY.
AND THEIR RECORDS MAY BE OLDER.
THEY MAY HAVE NO RECORDS AT ALL.
UH, AND SO GOING THROUGH THIS APPLICATION PROCESS MAY BE A BRAND NEW PROCESS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO BECOME FAMILIAR WITH.
LARGE PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY MAY OR MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR, OR MAY NOT BE CONVERSANT WITH OR COMFORTABLE WITH, UM, THE, UH, UH, COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND MAY ASK SOMEONE DOWN THE STREET TO DO THE REGISTRATION FOR THEM.
AND I WILL TELL YOU FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, THAT OFTEN LEADS TO, UH, A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS. I'VE HAD PEOPLE CALL ME, OR I'VE GOT BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH PEOPLE, UH, AND WE ARE LOOKING OVER THEIR ACCOUNT.
WE FIND OUT WE'VE ALREADY SENT MONEY TO THEIR ACCOUNT, AND THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT AND DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ACCOUNT IS.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY ASK SOMEONE DOWN THE STREET WHO'S MUCH MORE CONVERSANT, WHO'S YOUNGER, UH, TO HANDLE THE REGISTRATION IN THE FUNDING.
AND WE FIND SOME PEOPLE HAVE SET UP THREE OR FOUR ACCOUNTS AND ARE DOING VERY WELL, AND WE CAN'T FIND THEM AT THIS POINT.
EVEN IF IT WAS YOUR GRANDSON OR YOUR UNCLE OR YOUR CHILD, UH, YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY TIMES THOSE FOLKS YOU'VE ASKED TO HELP YOU WITH THIS, UH, REGISTRATION PROCESS, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT PROCESS.
UM, THESE ARE THE THREE WAYS TO APPLY FOR THE, THE, UM, UH, THE ASSISTANCE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
THE THING TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THESE BENEFITS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THAT FEMA PAYS FOR UNINSURED DAMAGE.
IF YOU HAVE A, IF YOU HAVE AN INSURANCE POLICY ON YOUR HOME, THEN WHEN YOU CODE A FEMA, THE THING THAT FEMA WANTS TO SEE IS THE INSURANCE POLICY.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA DUPLICATE THE BENEFITS, RIGHT? THE, THE, THE MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE IS TO PAY FOR UNINSURED DAMAGE TO YOU OR YOUR FAMILY, OR THINGS THAT ARE NOT COVERED BY THE INSURANCE POLICY.
IF YOU'RE UNDERINSURED OR UNINSURED.
OTHERWISE, YOU'RE GONNA RELY, UH, MOSTLY ON THEIR INSURANCE.
UM, SO, UM, THE, THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE SAFE.
THE OTHER THING TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE FEDERAL POLICY IS NOT TO PUT YOU BACK IN THE POSITION YOU WERE IN BEFORE.
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BACK ON YOUR FEET.I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WHEN I HANDLED PHONES, PEOPLE WOULD TELL, WOULD TELL ME, WELL, I HAD A 50 INCH, UH, TELEVISION, AND YOU, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA SPEND MOST OF MY MONEY PUT IN THE HOUSE, PUT PUT IN THE FAMILY BACK IN THE HOUSE.
HOW AM I GONNA GET MY TELEVISION? AND MY ANSWER IS, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, I DIDN'T BUY THE TELEVISION.
AND WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TELEVISION.
WHAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IS GETTING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY INTO SAFE HOUSING AND TO HELP YOU RECOVER.
IT'S NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S INTENTION TO REPLACE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE LOST.
AND INSURANCE CAN HANDLE THAT.
IF YOU'RE UNDERINSURED, WE HOPE THAT $37,800 THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU AS DIRECT ASSISTANCE CAN GET YOU, UM, BACK ON YOUR FEET.
UM, AGAIN, I'M GOING THROUGH THIS, UH, FAIRLY QUICKLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE FOR A COMMUNITY THAT HAS NOT INTERACTED WITH FEMA MUCH IS THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS KICKED OUT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS, AND THERE ARE ISSUES THAT ARISE LIKE THE ONES, UM, THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
AND SO THE ISSUES I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT NOW IS HOW THEY DEAL WITH THAT REJECTION LETTER.
UH, IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROCESS, WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE IS A LOT OF REJECTION LETTERS IN THIS FIRST ROUND.
THE THING THAT I WANT TO SAY TO YOU IS THE REJECTION LETTER IS NOT THE END OF THE PROCESS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE GET THE REJECTION LETTER AND HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY IN THE PAST, YOU JUST GOT A REJECTION LETTER AND IT DIDN'T SAY WHY YOU'RE REJECTED.
SO PEOPLE PUT IT IN THE, PUT IT IN THE TRASH CAN AND WALKED AWAY FROM THE PROCESS.
THERE MAY BE ANY NUMBER OF REASONS THAT YOU WERE REJECTED.
SOME OF THEM I HAVE JUST TALKED ABOUT, YOUR ID DID NOT LINE UP INITIALLY.
THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A MISTAKE OF THE PLACEMENT OF ONE NUMBER AND YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.
SOMEBODY DOWN THE STREET HAS REGISTERED FOR YOU GOT THE MONEY AND LEFT TOWN.
UH, THERE ANY NUMBER OF ISSUES.
WHAT I AM HERE TO ENCOURAGE IS WHEN YOU GET THE REJECTION LETTER, AT THIS POINT, REENGAGED, GET BACK AND SAY, WHAT IS IT THAT'S WRONG? AND SEE IF I CAN FILL IT OUT.
ONE OF THE MO ONE OF THE MOST COMMON ISSUES IS WE COULD NOT VERIFY YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, PARTICULARLY IF YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROPERTY IS A'S PROPERTY.
RIGHT? UM, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO SAY TO YOU NOW, AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND IT VERY QUICKLY, UH, IS THAT FEMA NOW ACCEPTS, UM, LET ME GO TO MY OWNER SHEETS.
THE, THE, THE, AND WHAT I, THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE TODAY IS THAT NO LONGER ARE YOU REQUIRED TO PROVIDE JUST A MORTGAGE, UM, OR WILL TO SHOW OWNERSHIP OR INTEREST IN A PROPERTY.
WE CAN NOW CERTIFY YOUR OCCUPANCY OR YOUR OWNERSHIP INTEREST IN A MUCH SIMPLIFIED PROCESS.
THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SEPTEMBER 2ND CHANGE.
WE WILL NOW, HOME OWNERSHIP MAY BE VERIFIED WITH THE DEED OF OFFICIAL RECORD MORTGAGE DOCUMENTATION, BUT NOW STRUCTURAL INSURANCE DOCUMENTATION, IF YOU HAVE INSURANCE ON THE PLACE, PROPERTY TAX RECEIPTS, NOW THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
IF YOU'VE LIVED THERE NOW, UH, YOU'VE ASSUMED THE OWNERSHIP OR RATHER RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE PLACE AND YOU'VE BEEN PAYING THE TAXES, IF YOU BRING IN THE TAX DOCUMENTS, OKAY, THAT THAT WILL BE SUFFICIENT.
UM, UH, LAND INSTALLMENT CONTRACT, UH, QUICK CLAIM DEED, UH, UH, IF YOU BRINGING IN THE DEED OF OWNERSHIP, OR IF YOU'RE ASSERTING OWNERSHIP AND SOMEONE HAS PASSED IT ON TO YOU, THEN YOU HAVE TO BRING IN THE DEATH CERTIFICATE TO VERIFY THAT THE PERSON WHO PASSED THAT, THAT INTEREST ONTO YOU HAS INDEED PASSED ON.
BUT MORE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT, UM, YOU MAY VERIFY YOUR OCCUPANCY WITH A UTILITY BILL, OKAY? UH, WITH A PHONE, CABLE OR MEDICAL BILL WITH THE EMPLOYEES PAY STUB OR SIMILAR DOCUMENTS, UH, LEASE, UH, RENT RECEIPTS, IDENTIFICATION CARDS, PUBLIC OFFICIALS, SOCIAL, SOCIAL, UH, SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS, LOCAL SCHOOL, MOBILE HOME LETTERS TO YOU WITH YOUR ADDRESS ON IT.
THIS IS A HUGE INCREASE, WE THINK, AND PROVIDING YOU WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM, CERTIFY YOUR INTEREST IN THE PROGRAM.
AND THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I CAN SAY TO YOU TODAY, THAT WE NO LONGER ARE REQUIRED TO BRING JUST A DEED OR MORTGAGE DOCUMENT TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR, FOR THESE PROGRAMS. UM, LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I'VE DONE WHAT I NEED TO DO.
THE CHANGE IN FEMA POLICY ON DOCUMENTATION.
I'VE SHOWN YOU AT LEAST THE, I'VE SHOWN YOU AT LEAST THE, UH, AMOUNT THAT IS, UM, UH, THE AMOUNT THAT YOU ARE ELIGIBLE FOR.
AND I'VE ALSO SHOWN YOU THE KINDS OF AREAS, UH, WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW TO APPLY FOR THE BENEFITS, HOW TO DEAL WITH THE REJECTION LETTERS.
UH, JUST WANT TO TAKE A FAST SHOT AT THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.
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FIRES ARE NOT THE ONLY NATIONAL, UH, PROBLEMS. FLOODING IS A PROBLEM, AND ALL OF THE FLOODING IS NOT AS A RESULT OF HURRICANES.UH, SOME OF IT IS A RESULT OF BEING IN A FLOOD ZONE.
UM, AND I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A DIFFICULTY THAT YOU HAVE WITH A FLOOD ZONE.
IF YOU INHERIT PROPERTY, IT NORMALLY MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY A FLOOD INSURANCE.
IF YOU'RE BUYING A NEW HOME, UH, AND YOU'RE BUYING IT THROUGH A FEDERALLY INSURED INSTITUTION, YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO BUY THE FLOOD INSURANCE IF YOU'RE IN A FLOOD, FLOOD PLAIN.
BY THE WAY, AT LEAST 20% OF THE CLAIMS ARE HANDLED ON PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF FLOOD PLAINS.
BUT THERE'S AN UNUSUAL, UH, UNUSUAL RISING OF THE WATER, AND THEY END UP, UM, HAVING FLOOD DAMAGE.
UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER INSURANCE YOU HAVE ON YOUR HOME, IT DOES NOT APPLY TO WATER DAMAGE UNLESS THAT WATER DAMAGE COMES FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE.
IF THAT WATER DAMAGE COMES FROM OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE, IT HAS TO BE COVERED BY FLOOD INSURANCE, OKAY? UH, AND IN SOME PLACES LIKE THIS WHERE YOU ARE EXPOSED, UM, TO FLOODS ON A REGULAR BASIS, YOU CANNOT FIND THAT INSURANCE AS A PRIVATE ENTITY.
YOU NEED TO GO TO THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, WHICH IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM.
IF YOU WERE GONNA BUY A HOUSE AND YOU WERE CLOSE TO AND A FLOOD PLANE, THE, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SELLING YOU THE HOUSE WITH ADVISOR, YOU HAVE TO BUY A FLOOD INSURANCE.
BUT IF YOU'RE INHERITING THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, RIGHT? AND SO WHEN DAMAGE COMES TO YOUR HOUSE AS A RESULT OF A HURRICANE, AND THE THE INSPECTOR SHOWS UP AND THE DAMAGES FROM OUTSIDE, THE QUESTION IS IF IT'S, IF IT'S DAMAGED FROM OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE TO COVER THAT DAMAGE.
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
UM, THAT FLOOD INSURANCE, WHICH IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM, COVERS UP TO $250,000 FOR DAMAGE TO THE UNIT AND UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR PROPERTY INSIDE OF THE, OF THE UNIT.
IT IS FAIRLY CHEAP BECAUSE IT IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM, BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT IS A PROGRAM THAT IS AVAILABLE TO YOU.
LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE IN MY NOTES.
UH, FEMA HAS EXPANDED ITS COVERAGE SO THAT THERE ARE THINGS COVERED NOW, UH, THAT HAVE NOT BEEN COVERED IN THE PAST.
UM, UNDER THE, WHAT WE CALL THE O, OTHER NEEDS PROGRAMS, LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND THE OTHER NEEDS PROGRAM.
UH, THERE ARE EXPENSES COVERED THAT, UH, HAVE NOT BEEN COVERED IN THE PAST UNDER THE OTHER NEEDS PROGRAMS, PERSONAL PROPERTY, CHILDCARE, MEDICAL AND DENTAL CARE, FUNERAL EXPENSES, TRANSPORTATION, MOVING IN STORAGE, UM, UH, CRITICAL, WHAT WE CALL CRITICAL NEEDS, UH, CLEAN UP AND REMOVAL.
AND THERE'S ALSO A PROGRAM WHERE IF IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS ISSUES WITH FLOODING, YOU CAN APPLY AS A GROUP AND GET A COVERED, GET COVERAGE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS OPPOSED TO TO AN INDIVIDUAL.
AND SO THESE ARE THINGS, UM, THAT NEED TO BE, UH, NEED, NEED TO BE EXPLORED.
UM, I THINK I HAVE JUST ABOUT COVERED THE ITEMS THAT, UH, NEED TO BE COVERED UNDER THIS, BUT IF I, IF I HAVE NOT MADE ANY POINT OTHER THAN THIS, THAT AS OF SEPTEMBER 2ND, UH, IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN, OR YOU OCCUPY WHAT IS CALLED AIRS PROPERTY, YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO HAVE THE DEED OR THE MORTGAGE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERAL SUPPORT.
AND SO I'VE LISTED THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN, UH, PROVIDE FOR THAT ASSISTANCE.
AND, UM, THE OTHER THING IS BECAUSE OF CONFUSION ABOUT HOW ONE HAS BEEN ELIGIBLE IN THE PAST, THERE MAY BE SOME CONFUSION IN THE INITIAL APPLICATION WHEN YOU GET THAT REJECTION LETTER, WHICH I EXPECT A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL GET BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT USED TO THAT PROCESS AND HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH IT IN THE PAST.
DO NOT TAKE THAT AS THE FINAL DECISION.
FIND OUT WHY, UH, YOU GOT THE REJECTION LETTER.
IT MAY BE AS SIMPLE AS THE WRONG ADDRESS, OR YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY THE ADDRESS THAT POPS UP IN THE NATIONAL SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE YOU HAVE PROVIDED.
AND PARTICULARLY IF YOU LIVE IN MULTI-GENERATIONAL FAMILIES, OKAY? WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON.
YOU GOT THE GRANDCHILD, YOU GOT THE, YOU GOT THE MOTHER AND THE FATHER THAT GOT THE GRANDPARENTS ALL IN THE HOUSE IS NOT CLEAR WHO OWNS THE HOUSE.
IT'S NOT CLEAR WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S ONE APPLICATION, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE THREE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE SEVEN.
UH, OR IF YOU HAVE MOVED FROM YOUR OWN HOUSE TO STAY IN THAT HOUSE WHILE REPAIRS ARE BEING MADE AND YOU BOTH APPLY WITH THE SAME ADDRESS, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE SYSTEM KICKS YOU OUT.
SO, AND, AND YOU CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND WHY YOUR MAIL IS GOING TO A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE NO LONGER LOCATED AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE CORRESPONDENCE IS GOING ON.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT MY DAUGHTER TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS MORNING, UM, ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE GIVING HER A HARD TIME BECAUSE THE ADDRESS THAT, UH, POPS UP IN THE NATIONAL SYSTEM IS
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NOT WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING FOR PEOPLE WHO MOVE AROUND A LOT.UM, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE, UM, TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT.
SO I HAVE, UH, I THINK I'VE MADE THE BASIC POINTS THAT I NEED TO MAKE IF I LEAVE EARLY.
IT IS NOT BECAUSE I AM NOT INTERESTED, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S A JUDGE WAITING TO SEE ME OVER IN BEAUFORD, AND THEY TEND NOT TO TAKE IT TOO EASILY IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP ON TIME.
UH, DO I THINK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO.
JUST, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, AND I KNOW YOUR TIME IS UP, UH, PROBABLY UP, YOU SAID THAT FEMA HAD, YOU HAD, UH, REACHED OUT, OR WE HAVE ADVOCATES HERE IN THE TOWN NOW.
UM, WHAT WE DID IS, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ATTENDED THE MEETING THAT WE HAD IN MARCH, UH, ON ST.
UH, WE INVITED LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, AND I THINK WE HAD, UH, SHERRY, I'M NOT SURE, LA SHERRY.
OH, CHARICE, UH, SHERRY, UH, SHE WORKS FLOOD MANAGEMENT.
IS IS THAT OUR CONTACT HERE WITH STAFF? THAT, THAT'S YOUR CON THAT'S YOUR CONTACT.
SO IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE CAN CERTAINLY CONTACT HER HERE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I MIGHT, SO WE MIGHT JUST IN CASE IF YOU HAVE TO LEAVE, WE'LL KNOW HOW TO ASK QUESTIONS OF SOMEONE HERE AT THE TOWN.
WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE ON STAFF.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I TALK TO SHERRY FROM TIME TO TIME.
WELL, EITHER I DID A GOOD JOB OR YOU DON'T CARE.
WELL, YOU DID A VERY GOOD JOB, AND WE KNOW YOU ARE RUNNING TIGHT ON YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE INFORMATION, UH, IN THIS SEASON OF, UH, HURRICANES AND STORMS. AND IT CAN HAPPEN, AS YOU SAID, ANYTIME THAT INFORMATION'S VERY JULIAN IS, UM, MOVING ACROSS THE, UM, CENTRAL AMERICA RIGHT NOW.
THE HURRICANE SEASON IS NOT OVER.
UH, THE WATERS ARE WARMER NOW THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, AND I DON'T EXPECT THE SEASON TO BE OVER INTO, WELL, IN THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER.
UM, I CHECK THE, WITH HURRICANES.
I HAVE A, I HAVE PULL IT UP ON MY SCREEN EVERY DAY, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN DANGER RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'LL BE AT LEAST TWO WEEKS BEFORE YOU HAVE TO START RUNNING IF, UH, IF ANYTHING'S COMING THIS WAY.
I'M ASSUMING YOU'VE HAVE ANY QUICK QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
IT IS CERTAINLY VERY RELEVANT TO A LOT OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
UM, AND, UH, CULTURAL PRESERVATION JUST FOR THE TOTAL COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE, I'M SORRY.
ONE LAST CONCEPT I WANTED TO LEAVE WITH YOU.
UM, THIS GROUP SHOULD THINK IN TERMS OF THE WORDING IN THE FEDERAL LEGISLATION IS CULTURAL RESOURCES AND HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
THERE ARE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE THROUGH A RANGE OF FEDERAL ISSUES SUCH TO DO MITIGATION.
THAT IS TO LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT CULTURAL RESOURCES OR HISTORIC AREAS ARE SUBJECT TO OR VULNERABLE TO NATURAL DISASTERS.
AND THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN A CATEGORY WE CALL MITIGATION TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AREAS BEFORE THERE IS AN EVENT, AND TO USE THOSE FUNDS TO EITHER SET UP OR, OR, OR, OR TAKE, TAKE STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT ADDITIONAL DAMAGE TO THOSE AREAS.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO, TO, TO, TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE OF, OF THE PROTECTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE UNDER THE NATIONAL HISTORIC, UH, NHAS.
I REMEMBER NATIONAL HISTORIC, UM, AREAS ACT AND, UH, AND, AND, AND LOOK AT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE, THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CONSIDERED CULTURAL RESOURCES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION.
AND UNDER THIS MITIGATION, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN, UH, IN A DISASTER AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT STEPS CAN BE TAKEN TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
OR YOU CAN MITIGATE DAMAGE OR EVEN COME IN WITH A STUDY THAT SHOWS THAT YOU VULNERABLE, UH, TO FLOODING OR OTHER DISASTERS AND FEDERAL FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE SPECIFICALLY FOR HISTORIC AREAS AND AREAS THAT ARE CONSIDERED CULTURAL RESOURCES.
I, I'M GONNA MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS OUR UPDATE ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT'S OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SO THIS IS JUST A STANDING AGENDA ITEM THAT WE HAVE ON ALL OF OUR AGENDAS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC UPDATE ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT'S OVERLAY OTHER THAN, UM, WHAT YOU JUST HEARD FROM THE CONSULTANT TEAM IS A RECOMMENDATION, AT LEAST FOR THE FIVE HISTORIC
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NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT TO OFFER SOME CONSISTENCY WITH DENSITY AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT FORM STANDARDS THROUGH BASE OWNING CHANGES.AND AS THE CONSULTANTS AND SEAN MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE'RE LOOKING, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD AND LEARN FROM THE CHANGES IN MID ISLAND DISTRICT TO, TO REPLICATE THOSE, UM, IN OTHER HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, BUT I THINK JUST TO SUMMARIZE, UM, OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT FOR THE RM FOUR PROPERTIES WITHIN THOSE FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT THE DENSITY WOULD BE SIX TO EIGHT.
UM, AND THEN THAT THERE WOULD BE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THAT WOULD BE APPLIED WITHIN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, AND THAT WE WOULD CALIBRATE SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT FORM STANDARDS, UM, WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE USES.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WASN'T MENTIONED THAT, THAT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO LOOK THE, THE DISTRICT PLAN LOOKS TO RECOMMEND A SMALL HOUSE SERIES, UM, FOR THAT INCREMENTAL INFILL, UM, THAT I THINK MS. GREEN WAS TALKING ABOUT.
AND THOSE WOULD BE, WE WOULD DEVELOP SOME, UH, PRE-APPROVED SMALL HOMES, UM, THAT COULD BE USED, UM, FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THESE AREAS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? YEAH, MR. HINTS, UH, MISSY, THE, UM, IT, IT WAS MENTIONED IN EARLIER PRESENTATION THAT THEY RECOMMENDED CODE CHANGES VERSUS OVERLAYS, CORRECT.
H HOW DOES THE TOWN FEEL ABOUT THAT? W WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING TOWARD BASE ZONING CHANGES, UM, FOR THE REASONS THAT THEY HAD OUTLINED.
UM, IT'S A LOT MORE PREDICTABLE BOTH FROM SOMEBODY WHO ADMINISTER THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AND ZONING AS WELL AS AS RESIDENTS AND, AND, AND HOMEOWNERS HERE.
UM, IT'S A CLEARER LINE OF, UH, WHAT RULES APPLY, UM, WHEN IT'S JUST IN THE CHAPTER FOR WHATEVER ZONING DISTRICT YOU'RE IN, THEN GOING TO A SEPARATE SECTION OF OVERLAY.
UM, SO, SO ARE WE, ARE WE GONNA DEFLECT FROM, FROM WORKING ON AN OVERLAY DISTRICT MODEL TO JUST GOING DIRECTLY TO THE A CODE? WE'RE LOOKING TO APPLY THE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PRESERVATION REPORT, BUT INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT AN OVERLAY AS THE MECHANISM LOOKING AT MAKING BASE SEWING CHANGES QUESTIONS FOR MISSY? NO.
YEAH, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE KIND OF TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT WE CALL OVERLAY.
SO I DON'T WANT US TO GET TOO HUNG UP ON, UH, THAT WORD, BUT THERE ARE SOME WAYS THAT, UH, WE CAN MAKE MAYBE ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING OR PERHAPS EVEN BETTER THAN WHAT WE WOULD CALLED TRADITIONALLY, BUT AN OVERLAY DISTRICT.
YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE FOR US? OH, NO, I'M JUST READY FOR THE NEXT ONE.
QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM THE OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR MISSY.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS THE GULL RESOURCE PAGE.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT, THIS IS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR CRITICAL PATH THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT, UM, CHANGES TO SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE LISTED ON, UM, OUR WEBSITE THAT RELATE TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE PRESERVATION REPORT.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UM, UH, RESOURCES LISTED IN THE AREAS OF ECONOMIC AND BUSINESS.
HES PROPERTY, LAND USE AND CULTURAL RESOURCES.
AND WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, REORGANIZING THOSE INTO WHAT WE WERE CALLING A GU RESOURCE CENTER AND TO FORMAT THEM MORE, UM, IN A COMMUNICATIVE WAY, SUCH AS USING LIKE A WEB BANNER, UH, DOING A STORYBOARD OR A STORY MAP TO ILLUSTRATE THOSE, UM, RESOURCES, UM, ESTABLISH VIDEOS OR, OR HOW TOS TO DISPLAY THE INFORMATION IN A MORE INTERACTIVE WAY.
UM, AS WELL AS ADDING, UM, SOME OF THE EDUCATION, UM, TOOLS AND, AND PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE ALREADY GIVING.
AND TO HAVE THEM AS A PLACE TO DEPOSIT THEM ONLINE WHERE THEY CAN BE ACCESSED 24 7.
UM, SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF, UM, WEBSITES THAT HAVE THIS TYPE OF, UM, INTERACTIVE, UM, ENVIRONMENT ARE THE EXPLORER MITCHELLVILLE PAGE AND THE CULTURE HHI PAGE.
I COULD GO TO THOSE PAGES OR YOU COULD GO TO THEM ON YOUR OWN, JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UM, LET ME SEE IF IT'LL OPEN.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS GULL RESOURCE CENTER, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS KIND OF INTERACTIVE, UM, PAGE THAT WE WOULD GO TO AND IT'S NOT SHOWING YOU, IT'S SHOWING ME ON WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, BUT IT'S NOT DISPLAYING ON THE SCREEN THERE.
SO, UM, SO WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE SITES, UM, OR I CAN
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EMAIL YOU THOSE SITES TO LOOK AT, UM, AFTER THE MEETING.UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
JUST WANTED TO GET SOME FEEDBACK OR INPUT FROM, FROM YOU ALL, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HEADED DOWN THE RIGHT PATH FOR THAT PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S EXCELLENT.
ONE, ONE PLACE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WEBSITES CAN BE VERY CONFUSING AND TRYING TO NAVIGATE, BUT IF YOU HAVE ONE, UM, CAPTURE PAGE AND THEN EVERYTHING IS, UM, FALLS FROM THERE, I THINK THAT'S OUTSTANDING.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISSING? UM, I HEARD YOU SAID THE INFORMATION THAT'S LISTED ON THAT PAGE YOU SAID WOULD, COULD BE DEPOSITED.
I I DIDN'T CATCH THE END OF THAT.
WELL, WE HAVE, UM, A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE PAGE ALREADY.
UM, IT'S JUST NOT DISPLAYED IN AN INTERACTIVE FORMAT.
SO WE WOULD HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF CONTENT.
WE WOULD DISPLAY IT IN A MORE INTERACTIVE, UM, FORMAT AS WELL AS, UM, HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO, UM, OFFER MORE EXPLANATION OF WHAT THESE RESOURCES ARE AND HOW THEY CAN BE APPLIED AND THEN HAVE SOME MORE EDUCATIONAL, UM, MATERIAL AND, AND SOME OF OUR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, UM, AVAILABLE LIKE A POWERPOINT IF YOU WILL.
WE COULD HAVE A PLACE FOR EDUCATION COMPONENTS, UM, ONLINE THAT'S AVAILABLE ALL THE TIME.
SO THE, UM, THE PROGRAM THAT WE, UH, JUST APPROVED WOULD ALSO BE ON A PAGE LIKE THIS? COULD, COULD BE, YES.
SO OTHER RESOURCES AS WELL, HAVE A MAP OF THE DIFFERENT PUBLIC COMMUNITIES ON PAGE SHOWING THE DIFFERENT, LIKE, LIKE OF FUEL COMMERCIAL.
UM, WE COULD HAVE, UH, RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE, UM, THAT ON THE ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY RESOURCE PAGE, BUT WE DO HAVE A MAP OF THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, ON, IT'S WITHIN THE GUAG GEI LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION PROJECT PAGE.
UM, THIS IS JUST THE, UH, RESOURCE CENTER INFORMATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REFORMATTING.
WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT REFORMATTING ALL OF THE GUAG GEECHEE INFORMATION, INCLUDING WHERE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE AND SOME OF THE ZONING CHANGES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE RECOMMENDED.
BUT WE COULD FOLD SOME OF THAT INTO THIS RESOURCE PAGE OR, OR LOOK AT BROADENING, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE DISPLAYING THIS INFORMATION.
UH, ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC HAVE QUESTIONED? OH YES.
IS THIS STATE AVAILABLE NOW? IT IS, YES.
UM, IT'S AVAILABLE WHEN YOU GO TO, UM, UH, MAJOR INITIATIVES AND THEN, UM, GOLA GEECHEE LAND AND CULTURAL RESOURCES.
UM, THERE IS, UM, A LOT OF INFORMATION, BOTH THE PRESERVATION PROJECT REPORT, INFORMATION ABOUT THE TASK FORCE AS WELL AS A LINK TO THESE ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY RESOURCES ARE UP ON OUR WEBSITE RIGHT NOW.
UM, TY, COME UP, JUST JUST A SUGGESTION THAT THE INFORMATION THAT MR. HOLLIS PRESENTED TO HAVE THAT KIND OF UPLOADED THERE AS WELL.
CAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY SIGNIFICANT AS FAR AS INSURANCE RIGHT NOW THAT THERE'S INSURANCE HOME THROUGH FEMALE.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT ALONE SPEAK BY, BUT DEFINITELY A GOOD AVENUE THAT HAVE.
AND I SUSPECT THIS WILL BE A RESOURCE CENTER THAT ROPE CONTINUE TO BUILD AS WE GET INFORMATION.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'LL BE JUST ONE SET OF INFORMATION.
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY THOUGH, WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE ON THERE ARE THE QUESTIONS FOR MISSY ON THIS TOPIC.
UH, MISSY I THINK WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS YOU ASKED EARLIER.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE IS OUR PROPOSED 2023 MEETING SCHEDULE.
I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT THAT ON HOLD BECAUSE NOW WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM ONCE AGAIN.
SO I THINK IT'LL BE OKAY IF WE DISCUSS THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
THAT BRINGS US TO THE STAFF REPORT, DELINQUENT TAX LIST UPDATE AND UH, UH, DESIGN STUDIO AND SOME OTHER ITEMS AS WELL.
UM, I I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GONNA BE MISSY LEWIS, CAN YOU IT IS.
THE REST OF THEM ARE ON, SO I'LL JUST STAY UP HERE.
UM, SO I EMAILED THE TASK FORCE LAST ON, UM, THE THIRD OF THIS MONTH WITH THE, UM, DELINQUENT TAX LIST.
UM, AT THAT TIME THERE WERE THREE PROPERTIES LEFT ON THE LIST.
THE DELINQUENT TAX SALE WAS ON, UH, THE FOURTH.
AND, UM, HOWEVER, IF THOSE PROPERTIES, UM, WERE, UM, SOLD AT THE AUCTION, THEY'RE IN A STATUS CALLED REDEMPTION AND PROPER
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PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE A YEAR AND A DAY TO PAY THOSE TAXES AND THE ASSOCIATED FEES TO RECOVER THE PROPERTY.AND AS OF LAST YEAR FOR 2021, THERE WERE NO PROPERTIES ON THAT REDEMPTION LIST.
I'VE NOT GOTTEN AN UPDATE FROM THE COUNTY YET TO, I I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY PROPERTIES YET THAT WERE SOLD AT THE AUCTION.
SO THAT'S THE UPDATE I HAVE ON THAT.
AND YOU SAID THERE WERE THREE PROPERTIES? THERE WERE THREE AS OF, YES.
AS OF THE DAY PRIOR TO THE SALE.
AND, UH, YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN STUDIO REPORT.
SO IN YOUR PACKET, UM, WAS AN UPDATED, UM, MONTHLY REPORT ON DESIGN STUDIO THAT WE'VE HAD 44 DESIGN STUDIO REQUESTS.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, 21 ACTIVE, UM, DESIGN STUDIO PROJECTS IN THE WORKS.
SOME OF THOSE, UH, ABOUT 14 OF THOSE ARE ON HOLD.
UM, AND, UH, AND THEN WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, THE REMAINDER ON ACTIVE PROJECTS THAT ARE SEEKING DESIGN SERVICE ASSISTANCE.
UM, I SHOULD ASK, UH, PAUSE AND LET THE PUBLIC, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AS I'M, CAUSE I'M RUNNING THROUGH THESE ITEMS. MR. WHITE.
YES, I HEARD, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN APPROACH, PLEASE.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT, UM, MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THE, THE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AND ESPECIALLY IN REGARD TO LANDSCAPING, LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS, ANY UPDATES ON THAT? UM, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, CHANGES TO OUR FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, INCLUDING THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AS PART OF BOTH OF THOSE, UM, APPLICATION TYPES.
AND, UM, THAT IS INCLUDED IN ONE OF OUR, UM, CRITICAL PATHS FOR, UM, IMPLEMENTATION OF, UM, THOSE ACTIVITIES.
UM, AND SOME OF THOSE, UM, OBSERVATIONS WERE MADE DURING SOME DESIGN STUDIOS WITH, WITH FAMILIES THAT ARE SEEKING THOSE APPLICATION, UM, SERVICES THROUGH EITHER DESIGN OR, OR I'M SORRY, FAMILY COFOUNDER, FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
UM, AND SO WE WILL BE WORKING ON FUTURE LMO AMENDMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
AND I SHOULD BACK UP ALSO AND RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE, UH, EFFORTS OF, UH, SOME OF OUR, UH, CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY WITH, UH, IDENTIFYING CHALLENGES OF PEOP ON, ON THE DELINQUENT TAX LIST.
UH, I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE A BETTER JOB FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND CERTAINLY WITH THE WORK OF, UH, LOW COUNTRY GULLAH AND SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KINDA MONITOR THAT AND NOT JUST OFFER AS ASSISTANCE FINANCIALLY, BUT ALSO THROUGH EDUCATION SO WE CAN STOP THE TREND OF HAVING HES PROPERTY AND HAVING, UH, PEOPLE, THE SAME PEOPLE ON THE LIST EVERY YEAR.
AND I KNOW THAT ALSO THAT, UH, LINDA PICKET FROM THE HERITAGE LIBRARY HAS BEEN VERY, UH, WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THAT EFFORT TOO.
SO I, I APPRECIATE THOSE CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE HELPING US TO, UH, IDENTIFY THAT.
I THINK YOU CAN CONTINUE TOWN OPEN POSITIONS UPDATE.
UM, WE'RE, UH, THE OPEN TOWN POSITIONS, UM, AT THE TIME OF PA PACKET PUBLISHING.
UM, ALSO WHEN OUR DIRECTOR OF HR SENDS, UH, THE CURRENT POSITION OPENINGS, I DO FORWARD THEM TO, UM, THE TASK FORCE, UM, THE, FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, THE CURRENT OPENINGS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW 9 1 1 PUBLIC SAFETY, TELECOMMUNICATOR TRAINEE, ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT, TEMPORARY POSITION ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR, DIRECTOR OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS, FIREFIGHTER EMT PARAMEDIC, FACILITIES TECHNICIAN, LANDSCAPING AND GROUNDS MANAGER, PUBLIC SPACE PROGRAMMING, EVENTS MANAGER, PRINCIPAL PLANNER, REVENUE SERVICES SPECIALIST, SENIOR PLANNER, CULTURAL AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION, STORMWATER PROJECT MANAGER AND TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER.
SO WE HAVE QUITE A FEW JOB OPENINGS, UM, CURRENTLY AND CERTAINLY WOULD WELCOME ANYONE'S, UM, REFERRALS.
UM, WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT WE, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, UH, ATTRACT, UH, FOLKS TO COME AND WORK AND LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY IS, WE HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE A LOT OF THESE TOPICS ARE RELATED.
THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING AND ALSO TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT POSITION CENTER.
WE APPRECIATE THAT UPDATE HOME AND SAFE HOME SAFETY AND
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REPAIR PROGRAM.SO FOR HOME SAFETY AND REPAIR, WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL CONTRACTORS TO DO THE WORK.
UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL CONTRACTORS THAT ARE APPROVED, EMBEDDED, AND WE ARE ANXIOUS TO GET UNDERWAY WITH, UM, AWARDING SOME OF THE WORK TO CONTRACTORS TO GET THE WORK UNDERWAY.
BUT SO FAR TODAY WE'VE RECEIVED 80 APPLICATIONS FOR HOME SAFETY AND REPAIR, AND WE'VE APPROVED 63 OF THOSE APPLICATIONS.
UM, 29 OF THEM HAVE HAD A SITE VISIT AND ARE ARE READY TO GO AWAITING CONTRACTOR BIDDING.
WE HAVE 34 SITE VISITS TO SCHEDULE.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS, UM, SEWER CONNECTION PROGRAM, WE HAVE HAD NINE APPLICATIONS, UM, SIX APPLICATIONS HAVE THE APPROVAL, UM, FROM THE TOWN FOR THE CONNECTION ESTIMATES, AND THEN THREE HAVE BEEN SENT TO THE PSD TO RECEIVE AN ESTIMATE FROM PSD FOR THE CONNECTION.
SO THEY'RE VERY, UM, SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS, A LOT OF INTEREST IN THEM AND, UM, WE ARE UNDERWAY, UM, WITH IMPLEMENTING THE PROGRAM AND, AND GETTING SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE GROUND.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, WE CAN CONTINUE.
UM, AND, UH, UH, WELL, LET ME JUST PUT A PIN RIGHT THERE.
UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE ROOM, IN OUR COMMUNITY, IF YOU KNOW SOME CONTRACTORS, WE ARE ENCOURAGING, WE'RE TRYING TO SOLICIT, UH, FOLKS TO SIGN UP FOR THAT PROGRAM AND PARTICIPATE WITH THE TOWN.
SO THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, CONTRACTORS IN THE COMMUNITY, A SERIES.
THANK YOU, MISTY, YOU CAN, THAT WAS THE SEWER UPDATE AS WELL.
UH, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS? I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR ATTENTION AND, UH, FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
AND, UH, HOPEFULLY IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND IT IS ALL VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY RELEVANT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.
AND HOPEFULLY, UH, IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THIS AFTERNOON AT FIVE O'CLOCK, UH, THE CONSULTANTS WILL BE THERE AGAIN AT HILTON HEAD, UH, LIBRARY.
PLEASE TELL OTHER PEOPLE, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE ARE AWARE OF THIS INFORMATION, IF THERE'S MEETINGS AND WE SAY, WELL, I CAN'T GO, DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULDN'T TELL SOMEONE ELSE.
MAYBE THEY CAN GO, ESPECIALLY FROM YOUR FAMILY OR FROM YOUR COMMUNITY OR FROM YOUR CIRCLE.
WE REALLY NEED TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE WELL INFORMED ABOUT THE GOOD WORK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IN THE TOWN.
I WANT TO COMMEND MISSY LUK AND THE STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER ITEMS BEFORE THIS BODY, UH, AND THE PRESENCE OF REVEREND OLSEN, I'M GONNA CALL FOR BEN ADDICTION.