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CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BAUER COUNTY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION AT[Call to Order]
WARNER, OCTOBER 4TH.IT'S A BUSINESS BUSINESS MEETING BEING CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FASHION.
IT'S ALSO BEING LIVE STREAMED ON THE COUNTY CHANNEL.
WE'RE REQUEST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
PARTICIPATION WILL BE ACCEPTED BETWEEN FIVE AND 5:30 PM BY SENDING AN EMAIL WITH YOUR NAME, PHONE NUMBER, AND TOPIC TO ROBIN KUCHEN BEAUFORT.K12.SC.US.
YOU WILL RECEIVE A PHONE CALL DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS WHERE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.
ON ISSUES WITHIN THE BOARD'S DOMAIN.
THE FORUM WILL BE LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES.
IF YOU'RE IN PERSON, YOU MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.
ON ISSUES WITHIN THE BOARD'S DOMAIN, EACH SPEAKER MUST FILL OUT A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD.
PLEASE SEE THE BOARD CLERK FOR A CARD REQUEST FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED BETWEEN SEVEN AND 7:30 PM IN THE SAME MANNER.
SECOND, PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL TAKE PLACE PRIOR TO ADJOURNMENT, NO LATER THAN 9:00 PM SECOND FORUM WILL BE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES.
I JUST REALIZED THERE'S AN ECHO, SO I GOT TO HEAR MYSELF.
YOUR VOICE IS NEVER WHAT YOU THINK IT IS TRUE.
IN THE EVENT THE BOARD HAS NOT FINISHED ADDRESSING ALL ITEMS LISTED ON OCTOBER 4TH AGENDA, TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THE BOARD WILL RECONVENE AT 6:00 PM TOMORROW.
TO FINISH THE AGENDA ITEMS, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS.
THIS IS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[Executive Session]
DR.I MOVE THAT WE, THAT THE BEAUFORT COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING ONE PENDING CLAIM COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA CODE ANALYST SECTION 34 78.
RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE RELATED TO FISCAL AUTHORITY COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE WE PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA CODE ANAL SECTION 34 78 2.
AN EMPLOYMENT MATTER REGARDING PERSONAL RATIFICATION REPORT PURSU TO SOUTH CAROLINA CODE ANAL SECTION 34 70 A ONE ADULT EDUCATION HOMESCHOOL REPORT PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA CODE ANAL SECTION 34 40 A FOUR.
AND AN UPDATE ON SECURITY SAFETY PLANS PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA CODE ANDAL SECTION 34 20 C.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.
MIDDLETON, I, YOU AND I, UH, ANGELA, YOU WERE AND I, YES SIR.
SESSION READINGS REALLY AT THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL OF ALL OF THE STUDENTS' SUBJECTS.
ALL THE SUBJECTS ARE INTERWOVEN AND INTERRELATED TO THEIR READING SKILLS.
IT IS THE ONE THING THAT LEADS THEM TO THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF SUCCESS AS THEY MOVE ALONG THROUGH THEIR ACADEMICS.
THIS IS A SKILL THAT WILL CARRY WITH THEM FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
I AM ERIN REICHERT, BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT TEACHER OF THE YEAR LIVE UNITED
[Action as Necessary or Appropriate Regarding Matters Discussed in Executive Session]
SESSION.ARE THERE ACTIONS NECESSARY APPROPRIATE REGARDING MATTERS DISCUSSED IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES.
WE HAVE FOUR MOTIONS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE.
THE FIRST MOTION I MOVED THE BOARD DIRECT LEGAL COUNSEL TO PROMPTLY COMMENCE A DETORY JUDGMENT ACTION TO DETERMINE THE FISCAL AUTHORITY OF THE SCHOOL
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DISTRICT UNDER SOUTH CAROLINA LAW.I'M GONNA WAIT FOR YOU TO GET THAT UP.
ON THE, THIS, UH, A LITTLE HARD TO UNDERSTAND, SEE THE MOTION.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION? MR. SMITH? UM, AT THIS TIME, I THINK THAT WE CAN DO A LITTLE MORE WORKING TOGETHER, UH, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, WORKING TOGETHER AS IN COUNTERPART WITH COUNTY COUNCIL.
SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS MOTION TONIGHT.
UM, I DON'T FEEL THAT WE'RE THERE.
UM, SO, AND I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS THAN OUR ANSWER.
SO, UM, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS MOTION TONIGHT.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE LAST 20 SOMETHING YEARS.
HAVE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN NOWHERE, SO WHY WASTE THE TIME.
ANY NEXT MOTION? MR. CHAIR? I MOVED THE BOARD DIRECT LEGAL COUNSEL TO PROMPT, OH, MISS ANOTHER ONE.
WE APPROVED THE SUPERINTENDENT'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EMPLOYMENT LISTED ON SEPTEMBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022.
PERSONNEL RATIFICATION REPORT.
OKAY, MR. CHAIR, THIS IS THE LAST MOTION CORRECTION.
THERE ARE ONLY THREE MOTIONS I MOVE.
WE ACCEPT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MONTHLY ADULT EDUCATION HOMESCHOOL REPORT FOR OCTOBER 4TH, 2022.
MIDDLE, CAN I? AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR MOTIONS.
NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
[Approval of Agenda]
DR.I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
SECOND, I, I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT THE MEETING MINUTES BE TAKEN OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH I THINK CONSTITUTES THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA.
WE WILL BE REMOVING THE MINUTES FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IF WE COULD STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF LEGION, PLEASE.
[Pledge of Allegiance, Moment of Silence, Statement of Media Notification]
SHE WAS A SPECIAL ASSISTANT AT MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL SINCE DECEMBER OF 2018.[Student Performance – Lady’s Island Elementary School]
STUDENT PERFORMANCE LADIES ISLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.[00:10:01]
GRADE PERFORMERS ARE HERE TONIGHT WITH A DANCE TO BEAT IT BY MICHAEL JACKSON UNDER THE DIRECTION OF DANCE TEACHER VANESSA VALDEZ.FOLLOWED BY THE SONG LIKE O MIGHTY STREAM BY RALO GILWORTH UNDER THE DIRECTION OF MUSIC TEACHER JOHN BITNER, THE CLASS YOU
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THAT WAS CERTAINLY WORTH THE PRICE OF ADMISSION.THOSE KIDS BRING US ALL BACK DOWN TO EARTH, DON'T THEY? OKAY.
[Points of Celebration]
THANK YOU, UH, TO OUR LADIES, ISLAND ELEMENTARY STUDENTS.AND TO MS. COLEMAN, THEIR PRINCIPAL FOR, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH THAT TODAY.
I THINK THAT GETS OUR DAY STARTED OFF, UH, QUITE WELL.
CHARACTER EDUCATION IS THE NEXT ITEM.
AND THE AUGUST STUDENT OF THE MONTH FOR NORTHERN BEAUFORD COUNTY, UH, IS THE STUDENT WE'RE GETTING READY TO CELEBRATE TODAY.
SO OUR CHARACTER EDUCATION PROGRAM WAS FORMED TO SUPPORT PARENTS' EFFORTS TO DEVELOP GOOD CHARACTER IN THEIR CHILDREN.
TONIGHT WE'RE CELEBRATING THE CHARACTER ED STUDENT OF THE MONTH, EXHIBITING THE CHARACTER TRAITS OF FRIENDSHIP AND KINDNESS.
FRIENDSHIP IS DEFINED AS THE EMOTIONS OR CONDUCT OF FRIENDS, THE STATE OF BEING FRIENDS, RELATIONSHIP CLOSE, RELATIONSHIP ATTACHMENT, MUTUAL ATTACHMENT ASSOCIATION, BOND TIE, LINK UNION.
KINDNESS IS DEFINED AS THE QUALITY OF BEING FRIENDLY, GENEROUS, AND CONSIDERATE.
KINDLINESS, KINDHEARTEDNESS, WARMHEARTEDNESS, AFFECTION, WARMTH, GENTLENESS, CONCERN, AND CARE.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT OUR CHARACTER EDUCATION STUDENT OF THE MONTH FOR NORTHERN BEAUFORD COUNTY FOR AUGUST IS ANGELIC SANCHEZ RAMIREZ, A FOURTH GRADE STUDENT AT JOSEPH S SHANKLIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND HERE TO TELL US, UH, MORE ABOUT HER STUDENT IS PRINCIPAL LIZ RIVERA.
SO ONE OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT HOW WE DO STUDENT OF THE MONTH AT JOSEPH SHANKLIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS THAT OUR STUDENT LEADERS AND STUDENTS OF THE MONTH ARE NOT NOMINATED BY THE TEACHERS, OR EVEN ME, THE PRINCIPAL.
THEY'RE NOMINATED BY THEIR CLASSMATES.
AND SO ANGELIC WAS NOMINATED BY HER CLASS, AND THIS IS WHAT HER CLASS HAD TO SAY ABOUT HER.
MISS MILLER'S FOURTH GRADE CLASS AT JOSEPH SHANKLIN ELEMENTARY,
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NOMINATES ANGELIC SANCHEZ RAMIREZ AS THE STUDENT LEADER OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST.CHARACTER TRAIT OF FRIENDSHIP AND KINDNESS, WHICH ALIGNS WITH HABIT FOUR FOR THE LEADER IN ME THINK WIN-WIN ANGELIC WAS SELECTED FOR STUDENT LEADER OF THE MONTH FOR THE WORDS FRIENDSHIP AND KINDNESS BASED ON HER ACTIONS TOWARD OTHERS AND HER PEERS.
SHE IS BILINGUAL BECAUSE OF THIS.
SHE HAS TAKEN IT UPON HERSELF TO TRANSLATE FOR A GROUP MEMBER WHEN SHE NOTICED CONFUSION SPREAD ACROSS HER PEERS FACE AS THE TEACHER.
I, AS THE TEACHER THAT WAS MS. MILLER.
HER TEACHER NEVER ASKED HER TO DO THIS.
SHE NOTICES WHEN OTHERS ARE BEING LEFT OUT.
SHE SEEKS OUT STUDENTS WHO MAY NOT HAVE PARTNERS, AND SHE WORKS THEM AND SHARES ONE STUDENT ON THEIR NOMINATION FOR HER WROTE, I CHOOSE ANGELIC BECAUSE SHE IS REALLY NICE AND HELPFUL.
AND WHEN WE SET IT SCIENCE TOGETHER, SHE WANTED TO TALK TO ME AND HELPED ME OUT.
AND WE LOVE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.
AND WE NOTICED WE LIKE A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS.
ANGELIC THINKS WIN-WIN BY SHOWING KINDNESS.
OTHERS WIN BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR BUCKETS FILLED.
BUT SHE ALSO WINS BECAUSE SHE GETS TO INTERACT IN A POSITIVE WAY WITH NEW PEOPLE.
AND WE COULD NOT BE MORE PROUD OF HER AT JOSEPH SHANKLIN ELEMENTARY.
AND VERY PROUD THAT SHE ATTENDS THERE.
NEXT, THIS EVENING, IF YOU RECALL AT A MEETING LAST MONTH, I SHARED THAT THE CITIZEN LED OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WAS SELECTED AS A RECIPIENT OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATIONS CHAMPIONS FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION AWARD.
AND WE WOULD HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION OF THAT AWARD.
WELL, TONIGHT IS THAT NIGHT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. JAMIE DIVINE, SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT AT THIS TIME.
THIS CAME FROM A GREAT CITY OF COLUMBIA TO BE WITH Y'ALL ON TONIGHT.
AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN ON TONIGHT AGAIN, UH, TO THIS GREAT, UH, THING, UH, PANEL OF SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES.
WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO ACROSS THE STATE AND ED INFORMING EDUCATION ACROSS RIGHT HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE GET THE SOURCES, THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO LEAD A PRODUCTIVE, UH, LIFE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
SO, UH, TONIGHT I AM HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL AND TO THE CITIZEN LED OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, CHAMPIONS FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION AWARD.
AS WE CAN SEE, IT IS A, UM, SYMBOL OF OUR STATE AND OF COURSE, OUR PALM METAL TREE, WHICH WE HAVE HERE.
SO ON TONIGHT, CAN I GET, UM, I DON'T SEE HER HERE.
PATRICIA SIMMONS, REGION ONE DIRECTOR.
I DON'T THINK PATRICIA CAME TONIGHT, BUT PATRICIA'S YOUR REGION ONE DIRECTOR.
SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT SHE'S NOT.
RODRIGUEZ AND OUR BOARD CHAIR, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JOIN ME DOWN FRONT, UH, IN THIS PRESENTATION.
UH, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO RECOGNIZE THE, UH, CITIZEN OVERLAND COMMITTEE, UH, WHICH IS A GROUP OF INDEPENDENT GROUP OF, UH, VOLUNTEERS WHO WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER BY DR.
RODRIGUEZ TO MONITOR ALL REFERENDUM PROJECTS, UH, SCHEDULED BUDGETS AND EXPENDITURES.
THIS GROUP REPORTS TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE C C IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JOIN ME FRONT AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US TONIGHT.
WE THANK YOU THE COMMITTEE FOR WHAT THEY DO, UH, TO ENSURE THAT MONEY ARE SPENT CORRECTLY AND THAT THE PROJECTS ARE ON TASK.
UH, THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE C L C AND THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT SERVES AS A MODEL FOR OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY TONIGHT, THE SOUTH FUND SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION IS PROUD TO RECOGNIZE YOU AND YOUR EFFORTS AND HONOR YOU WITH THIS CHAMPION OF PUBLIC EDUCATION AWARD.
SO, TED, IF YOU WOULD TAKE THIS FOR ME, PLEASE, SIR.
LET'S GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
JUST A FEW MORE COMMENTS, THEN I'LL GO.
SO JUST A FEW MORE COMMENTS, THEN I WILL, UH, TAKE A QUICK PHOTO.
UH, THIS GROUP WAS FORMED AGAIN BY OUR SUPERINTENDENT, UM, TO, UH, BRING FORTH THOSE ITEMS THAT HE NEEDED TO BRING FORTH.
AND I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THE MISSION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS, UH, THROUGH A PERSONALIZED LEARNING APPROACH, IS TO PREPARE GRADUATES WHO COMPETE AND SUCCEED IN THE EVER CHANGING GLOBAL SOCIETY AND CAREER
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MARKETPLACE.AND THEN THE VISION IS TO WORK WITH FAMILIES AND THE DISTRICT'S DIVERSE COMPOSITION TO ENSURE THE STUDENTS PERFORM AT AN INTERNATIONALLY COMPETITIVE LEVEL AND IN A LEARNING ENVIRONMENT THAT IS SAFE AND NURTURING.
AND AGAIN, IN 2019, THIS COMMUNITY, ALONG WITH THIS BOARD, UM, UH, PASSED A BOND RE REFERENDUM OF 344 MILLION, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE LARGEST IN YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT HISTORY.
AND AGAIN, WE THINK THIS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IN THE SUPERINTENDENT, UH, FOR BEING HERE AND PERFORMING, LEADING THIS RELATIONSHIP AND THIS SCHOOL ENDORSEMENT OF THE GROUP THAT, UH, WHO PROVIDE A VARIETY, A WIDE VARIETY OF PERSONAL, UM, EXPERIENCES TO THIS TASK FORCE.
UH, WE HAVE CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS.
YOU HAVE URBAN PLANNERS, CIVIL ENGINEERS, AND PROJECT MANAGERS.
AND THE VALUE THAT IS BROUGHT HERE TONIGHT IS WORKING TOGETHER TRANSPARENTLY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION OF ALL OF OUR STUDENTS, AND TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN EASILY SEE WHY THIS ORGANIZATION WORTH OF THIS TONIGHT.
AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF SES B A, THE SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE GREAT WORK, THE GREAT WORK.
UM, TONIGHT WE HAVE TED AND CARLTON WITH US ON TONIGHT.
SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM, POINTS OF CELEBRATION.
THIS ANOTHER ITEM UNDER POINTS OF CELEBRATION THIS EVENING, AND THAT IS THE SUPPORT STAFF OF THE YEAR.
UH, LAST MONDAY, O OAKS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UH, SCHOOL NURSE WAS NAMED AS A BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT'S 2022 SUPPORT STAFF OF THE YEAR.
AND THE SECOND YOU'LL GET TO SEE A VIDEO, UH, ON WHICH, UH, JODY, NO SELECTION WAS ANNOUNCED AT A SURPRISE VISIT TO THE SCHOOL.
UM, SUPPORT STAFF OF THE YEAR ARE RECOGNIZE AT A BREAKFAST THAT'S HELD THAT THE TECHNICAL COLLEGE OF THE LOW COUNTRY INSTITUTE OF THE SOUTH.
AND WE SURPRISED THE DISTRICT, UH, SUPPORT STAFF OF THE YEAR AT HER SCHOOL.
AND SO YOU'LL GET TO SEE, UH, JODY HERE.
SHE'S UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING, BUT WE HAVE A VIDEO.
CONGRATULATIONS OR SUPPORT STAFF OVER YEAR.
MAKING A FUN SURPRISE ANNOUNCEMENT.
THIS SCHOOL NURSE AT MASEY OAKS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WAS SHOCKED WHEN SHE FOUND OUT SHE'S BEEN NAMED THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT'S 2022 SUPPORT STAFF OF THE YEAR.
MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, ALONG WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT, PRESENTED HER WITH A GIFT BAG, FLOWERS, BALLOONS, AND MORE.
I MEAN, I'M JUST DOING MY JOB LIKE ALL THE OTHER NURSES AND STAFF MEMBERS IN THE DISTRICT.
SO VERY SURPRISED AND VERY BLESSED.
SO THAT'S THE DISTRICT ONE, AND THAT'S THE SOY ONE.
OH, IT MAKES ME FEEL REALLY GOOD AND LIKE MY HARD WORK PAYS OFF CUZ I REALLY DO LOVE MY JOB AND I LOVE THESE KIDS.
AND I DO MY BEST EVERY DAY TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S TAKEN CARE OF AND SAFE AND PROTECTED.
THE SCHOOLS FACULTY AND STAFF ARE PROUD OF NURSE NOR AND ARE HAPPY.
SHE'S A PART OF THE MASI OAKS COMMUNITY.
SO NURSES IN ESSENTIAL PART TO MA OAK, SHE'S HERE FOR STUDENTS, SHE'S HERE FOR STAFF WITHOUT HER.
WE REALLY MISS HER WHEN SHE'S NOT HERE.
AND THERE'S A BOO BOO OR HELP DISPERSED MEDICINE.
AND WE WOULDN'T BE WHAT WE ARE WITHOUT HER.
JODY IS HONORED TO BE NAMED THE SUPPORT STAFF OF THE YEAR AND SAYS SHE LOVES BEING ABLE TO HELP CHILDREN.
I CARE FOR THESE KIDS LIKE THEY'RE MY OWN.
LIKE I WOULD WANT SOMEBODY ELSE TO CARE FOR, FOR MY KIDS.
SO I LOVE COMING IN HERE AND I MEAN, THEY CALL ME EVERYTHING FROM DOCTOR NURSE TO NURSE NORA, I MEAN, ALL SORTS OF FUNNY NAMES.
AND I THINK MOST OF THEM LOVE ME AS MUCH AS I LOVE THEM.
JODY'S BEEN A NURSE FOR 13 YEARS, THE LAST THREE AS A SCHOOL NURSE AT MOSSY OAKS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, RON ROPES, BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
ALL OF MY, THAT CONCLUDES OUR POINTS OF CELEBRATION THIS EVENING.
THAT WAS PURE EMOTION ON DISPLAY AND IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE.
IT TAKES US TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[First Public Comments]
OUR FIRST COMMENTER IS MR. JOSEPH CAST NINO.[00:30:03]
YOU GUYS CAN BE HAPPY THAT I AM NOT GONNA SING OR DANCE, SO LEAVE IT AT THAT.THAT, UH, I, NO, I'M NOT GIVING THAT.
UH, THANK YOU FOR, FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME TONIGHT.
JUST WANNA TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT SOME, SOME, YOU KNOW, WHAT I CONSIDER URGENT MATTERS HAPPENING IN OUR SCHOOLS IS THAT I BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION THIS BOARD MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE.
UM, I, I REALLY DO THINK WE HAVE A CRISIS IN OUR SCHOOLS WITH A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
SO, UM, UNDER THE CURRENT STATE, UH, CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR PROVISO, UM, WHICH IS A SOUTH CAROLINA STATUTE, BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND ALL THE SCHOOLS ARE PROHIBITED FROM TEACHING, CARRYING, OR USING MATERIALS THAT ARE CRT BASED UNDER THE PEOPLE UNDER THE PROTECTION OF PUPIL'S RIGHT RIGHTS ACT, WHICH IS A FEDERAL LAW.
PARENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO REVIEW MATERIAL THAT IS BEING USED AND TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS AND PRESENTED TO OUR CHILDREN.
UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
UH, THE PUBLIC LEGALLY HAS ACCESS TO INFORMATION THAT IS REQUESTED FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THIS INCLUDES OUR ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD.
THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD, AND THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT CONTINUALLY VIOLATES ALL THREE OF THESE.
UM, MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL, UH, HOSTED A DISTRICT-WIDE MEETING ON AUGUST 2ND THROUGH AUGUST 4TH, WHERE TEACHERS, STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION ATTENDED MEETINGS.
MATERIALS PRESENTED IN THESE MEETINGS WERE BASED ON SEL, SOCIAL EMOTIONAL LEARNING, WHICH IS A TROJAN HORSE AND BASIS FOR CRT CRITICAL RACE THEORY.
THIS IS A CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE PROVISO.
UH, I HAD PRESENTED THIS, UM, INFORMATION TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND I HAD ASKED FOR THE MATERIALS THAT WERE USED IN THIS NUMEROUS TIMES UNDER FOYA AND UNDER P P R A.
AND ESSENTIALLY BOTH OF, OR, OR ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS WERE IGNORED OR DENIED.
UM, SO, UH, THAT, THAT WAS VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
UM, PARENTS WERE ALSO REFUSED ENTRY TO THESE SESSIONS IN ORDER TO REVIEW THE MERIT MATERIAL THAT WAS GONNA BE USED IN THE SCHOOLS AND TALK TO THE CHILDREN.
UM, ALL TEACHERS AND STAFF THAT ATTENDED THESE MEETINGS WERE ALSO PAID TO ATTEND THOSE SESSIONS, WHICH IS A VIOLATION OF THE PROVISO, UM, MATERIALS THAT, UH, WERE PRESENTED AND HAD BEEN USED IN THE BEAUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICTS SINCE AUGUST 15TH, UM, ARE BASED, A LOT OF THEM ARE BASED ON THE MATERIALS THAT WERE TAUGHT AND USED IN THOSE SESSIONS.
AND THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE PROVISO.
UM, NUMEROUS EXAMPLES OF SEL AND CRT BEING USED IN OUR SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN CAPTURED BY SEVERAL PARENTS IN THE DISTRICT.
AND, UH, THEY'RE BEING, IT'S BEING USED AS A BASIS FOR SOME OF THE, THE MATERIALS IN OUR SCHOOLS.
AND THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE, UM, NEXT THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS BOOKS.
IN OUR SCHOOLS, THERE ARE SEVERAL HUNDRED BOOKS IN OUR SCHOOLS THAT ARE DEEMED, UH, INAPPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN.
THEY RANGE FROM BOOKS CONTAINING OFFENSIVE OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE TO BOOKS THAT PUSH RACISM, PUSH, UH, SEL AND CRT, AND EVEN BORDERLINE ON PORNOGRAPHY.
MANY OF THESE BOOKS VIOLATE THE PROVISO IN AS WELL.
SINCE THEY CONTAINED SEL AND CRT LANGUAGE, PARENTS HAVE ESCALATED MANY OF THESE BOOKS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR REFUSAL.
AND FOR THE MOST PART, THOSE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN, UH, LARGELY IGNORED OR THE PARENTS WERE TOLD THAT THEY HAD TO FILL OUT AN EXTENSIVE FORM.
AND I'M, UM, COMING REGARDING A MATTER THAT HAPPENED AT WELL BRANCH EARLY COLLEGE ON SEPTEMBER 9TH.
UM, OUR CHILDREN WERE INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT AT A SCHOOL.
OUR KIDS ARE ALL FOOTBALL PLAYERS AND WE WERE REALLY UPSET ABOUT HOW THE SITUATIONS WERE HANDLED.
OUR CHILDREN WERE PULLED AT 3 45.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO CALL THEIR PARENTS.
THE PARENTS WERE, WERE NOT NOTIFIED BY THE SCHOOL AS TO WHY THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GET ON THE BUS BAR TO COME HOME.
UM, WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE BEING INVESTIGATED FOR A MATTER THAT HAPPENED EARLIER IN THE DAY.
NO ONE HAS YET TO TELL US WHAT THE INVESTIGATION WAS.
UM, OUR KIDS WERE BASICALLY HELD HOSTAGE AT THE SCHOOL.
THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO CALL THEIR PARENTS.
WHEN I ARRIVED AT THE SCHOOL, I WAS TOLD THAT MY SON WAS NOT ABLE TO LEAVE BECAUSE THE OFFICES MAY HAVE HAD QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
UM, WHEN I SPOKE TO THE OF THE OFFICER SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHILDREN, IT WAS ALL IN THE SCHOOL.
UM, OUR CHILDREN WERE ALSO GIVEN TWO DAYS SUSPENSION.
THAT WAS LATER SWITCHED TO TWO DAYS.
PRINCIPAL, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT WAS CALLED, BUT THEY ENDED UP DOING TWO DAYS OF LEARNING ON A MONDAY AND TUESDAY.
THAT MONDAY, THEY HAD NO WORK FROM NONE OF THEIR
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TEACHERS.THE TEACHERS DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO BASICALLY THEY LOST TWO DAYS OF SEAT TIME.
MY SON IS A SENIOR WHO HAS NEVER EVER BEEN SUSPENDED.
AND IT WAS JUST REALLY EMBARRASSING HOW THEY HANDLED THAT SITUATION.
NO, AS OF TODAY, NO ONE HAS CALLED TO SAY WHAT THE RESULTS OF THAT INVESTIGATION WAS.
WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS BEING INVESTIGATED.
UM, WHAT ELSE? SO, NO REAL REASON AS TO WHY OUR KIDS SPENT TWO DAYS OUT OF SCHOOL WITH NO LEARNING MATERIAL DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY WAS QUESTIONING THE KIDS.
IF LAW ENFORCEMENT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THOSE KIDS AT ALL, THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THEM TO SIT THERE AND BE QUESTIONED.
NOW, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WHATEVER THEM KIDS HAD TO SAY TO THE ADMINISTRATION, WHAT WAS THE ADMINISTRATION GONNA DO WITH THAT INFORMATION IF THEY WERE GONNA TAKE IT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT? OKAY, NOW HERE'S A CRIME RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO AND TAKE INFORMATION FROM THESE KIDS AND GO AND TAKE IT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN'T EVEN QUESTION THESE KIDS WITHOUT A PARENT BEING PRESENT.
SO WHO ARE THEY TO GO AND QUESTION THESE KIDS WITH A PARENT WITHOUT THE PARENT BEING PRESENT, ESPECIALLY ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT MATTER? AND NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING AT ALL.
EVERYBODY SITTING, BOTH OF ALL THREE OF THEM TRYING TO COVER THEIR BACKS.
THEY SIT IN THEIR MEETINGS TRYING TO COVER THEIR BACKS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT FIRST HAPPENED THE FIRST TIME.
WHEN IT FIRST HAPPENED AT, AT THE BEGINNING, NO ONE CALLED US.
MY SON SAT HOME FOR OVER HALF THE DAY HE DIDN'T GET.
AND I TOLD, I CALLED HIM AND TOLD HIM, I SAID, LISTEN, IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY WORK FOR MY SON, BY THE END OF BUSINESS DAY, HE COMING TO SCHOOL TOMORROW.
YOU SAT THEM, HAD THEM KIDS SIT OUT FOR TWO DAYS AND DID NOTHING.
ALL CAUSE THE SCHOOL TRYING WHAT ADMINISTRATION, TRYING TO DO INVESTIGATIVE MATTER.
WE DO HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO IF YOU CAN'T FINISH YOUR COMMENTS, THE FIRST, YOU CAN ALWAYS SIGN UP FOR THE SECOND.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
UH, FIRST, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR, TO OUR KIDS, ESPECIALLY IN THESE COMPLEX AND LESS THAN CIVIL, LESS THAN CIVIL TIMES.
UH, IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE TO OFFER YOURSELF FOR PUBLIC SERVICE, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SCHOOLS AND OUR, AND OUR CHILDREN AS A PROUD PRODUCT OF BAUER COUNTY SCHOOLS.
AND AS A DAD WHO'S RAISING, UH, TWO GIRLS WHO ARE ALSO, UH, ENROLLED IN BAUER COUNTY SCHOOLS.
UM, I BELIEVE EVERY DAY WE'RE WORKING TO CLOSE THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP AND BRING ALL STUDENTS, UH, AHEAD AND, UH, I THINK SPEND A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT THE CHALLENGES OF THE WORLD.
UH, DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ANSWERS, BUT I KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A RATIONAL, CRITICALLY THINKING CIVIL, UH, POPULACE MOVING FORWARD TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING TOGETHER, BUT NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.
UH, YOU DO HAVE AN ANNEXATION DISCUSSION, UH, FURTHER ON IN YOUR AGENDA.
SO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
I APPRECIATE, UH, THE STAFF'S TIME TO, UH, RESEARCH THAT ISSUE AND PROVIDE, UH, INPUT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF IT.
UH, A QUICK BACKGROUND IS BACK IN ABOUT 2008, UH, THE CITY OF BEAUFORT, THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL BEAUFORT COUNTY, THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE TOWN YAMA EMBASSY, A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER ENTITIES, UH, WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE WHAT THEY CALLED THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN.
THE DOCUMENT IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE.
YOU CAN JUST SERVE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN THAT LAID OUT FUTURE LAND USE FOR EACH OF THE JURISDICTIONS.
UH, SET OUT GROWTH BOUNDARIES ON WHERE THE TOWN AND THE CITY WOULD WOULD GROW INTO OVER TIME.
AND, AND IMPORTANTLY, WHERE WE WOULD NOT GROW INTO.
RIGHT? SO THE CITY'S NEVER GONNA GO TO ST.
WE'RE NEVER GONNA GO UP INTO SEND THE SEABROOK OR INTO DALE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA STAY KIND OF IN THE FOOTPRINT THAT WE ARE IN NOW.
UH, BUT WITHIN THE GROWTH BOUNDARY IS ROBERT SMALL'S MIDDLE SCHOOL.
UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITY RESIDENTS THAT ALREADY ATTEND ROBERT SMALL'S MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF NEW HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE COMING AROUND THE SCHOOL, UH, THAT WILL BE, UH, IN THE CITY.
UM, AND SO AS MAYOR, UH, WHO IS VERY PROUD OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE OPPORTUNITIES YOU OFFER OUR STUDENTS EVERY DAY, UH, IT'S A SORT OF A SELFISH REQUEST OF MINE TO HAVE ROBERT SMALLS, UH, IN THE CITY.
UM, THE ADVANTAGE FOR US IS THAT IT GIVES US CONTINUITY.
UH, SOUTH CAROLINA ANNEXATION LAW FAVORS WHAT I THINK RIGHTFULLY THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND SO THEY HAVE TO PETITION TO COME INTO THE CITY, BUT IT HAS TO BE CONTIGUOUS.
SO THE PARCELS CONTIGUOUS TO ROBERT SMALLS COULD THEN ANNEX INTO THE CITY, WHICH THEY CANNOT DO TODAY WITHOUT IT, WITHOUT IT BEING IN THE CITY.
ALSO, UH, WE HAVE A VERY PROUD COMMUNITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, WITH THE BEAUFORT PD.
YOU KNOW THOSE FOLKS CUZ THEY HAVE NAVY CARS AND NAVY UNIFORMS. UH, WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY PHILOSOPHY, UH, COMMUNITY POLICING PHILOSOPHY.
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THE FORCE, UH, THE DIVERSITY OF THE FORCE REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY SERVE.AND BECAUSE MANY OF THE STUDENTS, UH, WHERE THEY LIVE AND WHERE THEY PLAY, UH, THEY WILL BE INTERACTING WITH THE CITY OF BEAUFORT POLICE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER, UH, TO ALSO BE IN THAT NAVY UNIFORM, UM, AND FOR THEM TO HAVE INTERACTIONS THROUGHOUT TODAY, UH, SO WE CAN BUILD THOSE STRONGER RELATIONSHIPS, UM, AS OUR KIDS GROW UP AND OUR COMMUNITY GROWS AROUND THE SCHOOL.
SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I WILL BE HERE THROUGHOUT THE EVENING, 30 YEAR DISCUSSION IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MS. JULIE MATTHEWS.
GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS TIME TO SPEAK TO YOU.
UM, I WANNA BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, I'M A GRANDPARENT.
I'M A CONCERNED GRANDPARENT ABOUT THE BOOKS THAT ARE IN THE SCHOOLS, IN THE LIBRARIES.
MANY OF THEM ARE INAPPROPRIATE AGE WISE PORNOGRAPHY.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT SCHOOL SAFETY.
OKAY, WHERE DO I GO? I'VE GOT FOUR GRANDKIDS THAT ARE NO LONGER IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THEY'RE BEING HOMESCHOOLED BECAUSE OF THE FEAR OF SCHOOL SAFETY.
HAS BEAUFORD COUNTY DONE ANYTHING TO SECURE OUR SCHOOLS? OR ARE WE GONNA WAIT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS, WE HAVE SHOOTINGS.
OKAY, THERE'S OLDER UPPER ABOUT GUN SAFETY WHEN THE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS HAPPEN, AND THEN THERE'S A LULL AND IT DOESN'T STOP.
OKAY? THERE'S SILENCE AND THEN IT BECOMES N UPPER AGAIN WHEN THERE'S ANOTHER SHOOTING.
I WANNA KNOW, AS BEAUFORD COUNTY BEING PROACTIVE, DOING SOMETHING TO SECURE THESE SCHOOLS, WHETHER IT'S PUTTING CERT CERTAIN LOCKS ON DOORS OR SECURITY OFFICERS.
SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE WE'RE THE TAR.
ALL OF YOU GUYS, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'VE GOT GRANDKIDS OR WHETHER YOU'VE GOT CHILDREN, OKAY? BUT YOU'RE ALL REPRESENTING US, THE COMMUNITY, OUR CHILDREN.
WE DEPEND ON YOU TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS, THE RIGHT CHOICES.
WE SHOULDN'T BE COMING UP HERE REMINDING YOU WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT I SPENT AN HOUR WITH TWO PARENTS TODAY IN A MEETING WITH SENATOR TOM DAVIS.
WE DISCUSSED SEVERAL THINGS, INCLUDING CRT AND SOCIAL EMOTIONAL LEARNING, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR TEACHERS, CRC AND SOCIAL EMOTIONAL LEARNING IN OUR CLASSROOMS AND IN OUR STUDENT REGISTRATION PROCESS, ELIT LIBRARY MATERIAL AVAILABLE TO OUR CHILDREN, THE RIGHTS OF PARENTS TO REFUSE STANDARDIZED TESTS FOR THEIR CHILDREN, THE CONTENT OF THE MATERIAL BEING INTRODUCED THROUGH INTERNET PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, AND A FEW OTHER TOPICS.
THESE ARE TOPICS WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH OUR BOARD REPRESENTATIVE ADMINISTRATION AND DR.
I PERSONALLY WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE AREN'T JUST GOING AWAY.
WE WANT THE BEST FOR OUR CHILDREN, AND WE WILL FIGHT LIKE MOTHERS AND FATHERS TO ENSURE LAWS ARE FOLLOWED AND THAT OUR CHILDREN DO GET THE BEST.
WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, I'D LIKE TO MENTION HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO SPEAK TO ANYONE AT THE BOARD DIRECTLY.
EMAILS GO UNANSWERED AS DO VOICE MESSAGES AND RECORDINGS.
NEXT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE SUGGESTION THAT SCHOOLS RECEIVE TRAINING ON HOW TO DEAL WITH CHILDREN ON THE SPECTRUM OR WHO ARE NEURO DIVERGENT.
I THINK THIS COULD MITIGATE ISSUES
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LIKE THE ONES WE SAW LAST WEEK.FOR EXAMPLE, A CHILD WALKED HOME FROM SCHOOL DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, 3.2 MILES, AND NO ONE AT SCHOOL NOTICED FOR APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR.
THIS TRAINING SHOULD BE FOR TEACHERS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, PRINCIPALS AND VICE PRINCIPALS.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO BRING UP AGAIN, THAT THE DISTRICT DESPERATELY NEEDS SOME KIND OF STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.
AS IT IS, SCHOOLS CAN SET THEIR OWN VERSIONS OF MOST POLICIES.
AND WE HAVE, PARENTS ARE ALWAYS IN APIN WHEN WE HAVE CHILDREN IN MULTIPLE SCHOOLS.
GOOD EVENING, SKIP HOLAND WINDMILL HARBOR.
I GREW UP IN MAYBERRY, BUT I'M HERE FOR 200 6290 6 MILLION, NOT FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR.
IN ORDER FOR SCHOOL BOARDS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES TO PROTECT AND MONITOR SCHOOL RESOURCES WITH DUE DILIGENCE, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT ALL SCHOOL OPERATIONS AND PRACTICES BE REVIEWED AND ANALYZED INDEPENDENTLY AND CON AND CONSTANTLY.
THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO BEGIN THIS PROCESS IS TO FORM A COMMUNITY BASED FORENSIC AUDIT COMMITTEE CALLED A FACT.
ONE OF ITS PRIMARY TASKS WOULD BE TO ASK CRITICAL QUESTIONS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.
THE REASON FOR ASKING THE QUESTIONS IS TO DETERMINE EASILY WHETHER BOARD POLICIES AND SCHOOL PRACTICES ARE, ARE PROTECTING AND MAXIMIZING SCHOOL RESOURCES EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY AND ETHICALLY, AND ARE FREE FROM THE RAVISHES OF POTENTIAL OR ACTUAL CORRUPTION.
FORTUNATELY, A TREND TOWARDS FORMING FRANTIC AUDIT COMMITTEES FACTS IS GAINING MOMENTUM.
SCHOOL OFFICIALS IN MESA, ARIZONA HAVE PROPOSED CREATING A PUBLIC SCHOOL AUDIT COMMITTEE THAT WOULD INDEPENDENTLY REVIEW THE DISTRICT BOOKS.
UNLIKE OTHER AUDIT COMMITTEES FORMED, MAC'S COMMITTEE IS COM IS COM COMPOSED OF ENTIRELY OF COMMUNITY CPA VOLUNTEERS WITH EXPERTISE IN ACCOUNTING AND EDUCATION.
BEAUFORD COUNTY NEEDS TO SEEK RETIRED CPAS TO JOIN AN AUDIT COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH THE BOARD AND THE CPA, MS. CROSBY, TO STRENGTHEN THE SCHOOL OF DISTRICT'S INTERNAL, INTERNAL FINANCIAL CONTROLS.
THE REALITY IS CORRUPTION IS LIKELY TO BE FOUND IN MOST SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
HOWEVER, IT TAKES CRITICAL QUESTIONING AND DILIGENT FORENSIC REVIEW TO DETERMINE WHETHER CORRUPT ACTS HAD TAKEN PLACE OR HAD TAKEN PLACE OR, OR, OR, OR, OR HAD TAKEN PLACE OR COULD BE COMMITTED WITH RELATIVE EASE.
IN THIS REGARD, IT'S, IT'S VITAL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS MEANT BY THE TERM CORRUPTION.
CORRUPTION IS BREACH OF TRUST, ROBBERY, EMBEZZLEMENT, DISHONESTY, FRAUD, PERHAPS MALFEASANCE, NEPOTISM, PAYOFFS, KICKBACKS, ET CETERA.
TY TYPICALLY SCHOOL BOARDS WILL BE DEFENSIVE AND DENIED THAT CORRUPTION IS MALIGNANT AND INSTITUTIONALIZED PROBLEM AND WILL PROVIDE REASON THAT SHOULD NOT NEVER BE ACCEPTED.
LIKE SAYING SCHOOL FINANCIALS ARE AUDITED REGULARLY.
SO NO REASON TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT OR SUSPECT ANY WRONGDOING.
WE TRUST THE CPAS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
ALTHOUGH THESE APPEAR TO BE CREDIBLE ANSWERS, IT'S NOT BECAUSE COOKIE CUTTER FINANCIAL AUDITS ARE NOT DESIGNED TO UNCOVER CRIMES LIKE EMBEZZLEMENT BY THE CPAS, THE CFOS OR OTHERS.
IN WAS IN MISMANAGEMENT, FORMER BERKELEY COUNTY SCHOOL CFO, EMBEZZLED 1.2 MILLION AND WAS SENTENCED TO PRISON.
AND I'M THE ONE THAT FACILITATED THAT ARREST WITH THE FBI.
ONLY INDEPENDENT FORENSIC AUDIT AUDITS CAN DO THIS.
BEAUFORD AUDIT CONDUCTED WITH GENERALLY IT AUDITING STANDARDS, GAS, AND EVEN IF INCORPORATED, STANDARD 99 CONSIDERATION OF FRAUD AND FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDITS WILL STILL NOT IDENTIFY CRIMES AND CORRUPTION YOU DO.
YOU OTHER PEOPLE RUN OVER OCCASIONALLY.
I JUST WANNA, BRIAN NOT TO, SIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE JUST FINISH MY, HAVE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR TO COMPLETE YOUR WELL, I JUST, I'M JUST SAYING YOU EVER LET OTHER PEOPLE RUN OVER? I'D ASK YOU JUST LET YOU BE INTERROGATED BY YOU.
I'M ASKING, FINISH MY STATEMENT.
CAN I ASK, FINISH MY STATEMENT, YOUR SEAT.
JUST REMEMBER, IF YOU LET SOME RUN OVER YOU, LET EVERY EVERYBODY RUN OVER.
SHOW RESPECT TO THOSE WHO YOU WORK FOR.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS ONTO COMMITTEE
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OUR, AT OUR LAST ACADEMIC COMMITTEE MEETING, WE, UM, TACKLED THE FOLLOWING, UM, SUBJECTS.AND ALL OF THE DATA IS PRESENTED IN YOUR PACKET AND HAS BEEN ONLINE, UH, FOR YOU TO, UH, LOOK AT EARLIER.
THE FIRST THING THAT WE REVIEWED WERE CHANGES TO, UM, THE REGULATION IS 20, UH, IS NOW CALLED MULTILINGUAL LEARNERS.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT IT WAS CHANGED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE TO NOW BE KNOWN AS MULTILINGUAL LEARNERS.
SO THERE IS, UM, THERE ARE CONSIDERABLE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THAT AR AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM AT YOUR CONVENIENCE.
UM, ALSO PRESENTED WAS A, AN OVERVIEW OF THE, UM, INSTRUCTIONAL DIVISION'S ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.
I THINK WE ALL FOUND THIS TO BE VERY, UM, UH, INTERESTING.
IT PUT, FILLED IN ALL THE DOTS FOR US, THE NAMES OF, OF EVERYONE WHO'S WORKING IN THOSE POSITIONS AND SHOWED, UM, WHO, YOU KNOW, WHAT AREAS THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR, WHO REPORTED TO THEM, WHO THEY SUPERVISED.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT WAS ANOTHER SHEET THAT KIND OF BROKE IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER.
UM, WE KNOW THAT, UH, MOST OF OUR ADMINISTRATORS HAVE MANY, MANY JOBS AND MANY RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO THAT WAS PRESENTED AS WELL.
UM, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UM, WE RECEIVED INFORMATION ON STUDENT TEACHER RATIOS.
UM, AGAIN, VERY VALUABLE INFORMATION FOR US TO HAVE.
AND AS THE COMMITTEE TALKED, IT'S LIKE THE STARTING POINT.
WE KNOW HOW MANY TEACHERS, UM, ARE TEACHING EVERY SUBJECT THE MAIN SUBJECTS AT EACH OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, AT OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
SO WE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT DATA AND WE CAN, UM, HOPEFULLY BEGIN TO ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT DATA.
SO WHERE ARE MORE OUR MOST EXPERIENCED TEACHERS? WHAT KIND OF IMPACT? WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME, UM, AREAS WHERE OUR CLASS SIZES ARE LOWER THAN OTHERS.
I THINK THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE AS A BOARD, HOW, UM, WE ARE TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE MOST CRITICAL NEEDS AND DOING THAT TYPE OF STAFFING.
WE HAVEN'T HAD INFORMATION LIKE THAT BEFORE.
STRATOS AND HER TEAM FOR PULLING THIS ALL TOGETHER.
UM, IT'S A GOOD PIECE OF DATA TO HAVE AND TO START WITH, UM, ASKING OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE DATA, LOOKING AT IT AND MAYBE COMING TO SOME, UH, CONCLUSIONS AS WE FOLLOW.
UM, OUR NEXT ACADEMIC COMMITTEE MEETING IS OCTOBER 26TH.
UNLESS ONE OF MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.
MS. VIRI, UM, I'M NOT ON YOUR COMMITTEE, BUT I I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
AND SO DO I CHAIR, MAY I ASK DR.
STRATOS, YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE PUT TOGETHER AN INCREDIBLE DOCUMENT HERE, REPLETE WITH INFORMATION.
WHEN I FIRST OPENED IT, I, I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS LIKE AN INTRODUCTION TO A DOCTORAL THESIS,
AND, AND YOU ALWAYS, YOU AND YOUR TEAM RISE TO THE TOP OUT OF ALL OF THIS DATA THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER, AND I KNOW YOU ANALYZED IT.
WHAT, SUMMARIZE, IF YOU COULD, WHAT IS THIS SAYING TO YOU? WHAT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN AND, AND HOW DOES THIS AFFECT WHERE, WHERE WE NEED TO DRIVE TO FOR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT? SO, MRS. FRICKS, THAT, THAT'S A RATHER BROAD QUESTION.
UM, BUT I'LL SUMMARIZE, AND I, AND I SHARED THAT AT ACADEMIC COMMITTEE, ONE OF THE GREATEST SUCCESS OF ONE OF OUR SMALLER HIGH SCHOOLS IS THAT THEY'RE A SMALL SCHOOL.
WELL, WE'RE IN EARLY COLLEGE LENDS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENTS WHO KNOW ONE ANOTHER, A DIRECT FEEDER PATTERN.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THAT YOU'RE VERY SMALL.
SO ONE OF THE BEAUTIES THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE AS A SCHOOL SYSTEM IS THE OPPORTUNITY OF THE EARLY COLLEGE MODEL, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE IN A SMALLER SETTING, IT'S MUCH MORE CHALLENGING TO PROVIDE GREATER PATHWAYS OR NUMEROUS PATHWAYS.
SO I WANT US TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THAT AS A SYSTEM.
ANOTHER ITEM WOULD BE, THE FIRST FEW PAGES ON
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THE RESEARCH REALLY SHOWS THAT CLASS SIZE IS SIGNIFICANT.IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S 12 TO ONE OR 20 TO ONE.
WHAT MOST IMPORTANT IS THE EDUCATOR, THE EFFECTIVENESS, OTHER OF OUR EDUCATORS, THE QUALITY OF OUR EDUCATORS.
SO I WANNA COMMEND OUR BOARD FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY OF LOOKING TO KEEP RETENTION AND THE WORK THAT YOU PUT FORWARD AS A BOARD FOR RETAINING OUR EDUCATORS AND BUILDING THE CAPACITY.
BECAUSE THAT'S JUMP AT ME FURTHER ANALYSIS AND, AND I'LL CHALLENGE MYSELF AT THAT IS WHEN I'M LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THE CORE ACADEMICS AND INTO, LET'S SAY THE ARTS AND THE CT, AND I KNOW WE'LL GET INTO THAT CONVERSATION LATER ON AS A SYSTEM, THE NECESSARY STAFFING TO KEEP THAT CONTINUITY SO I COULD HAVE GREATER READINESS OF STUDENTS AS THEY CROSS THE STAGE AT GRADUATION.
ONCE AGAIN, AS I'VE SAID TO YOU AS A SYSTEM, WHAT ARE WE GIVING OUR CHILDREN THE NEXT DAY AFTER THEY GRADUATE? YES MA'AM.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, AND THE SAME QUESTION WHETHER YOU CAN GET FROM ALL THIS DATA, AND MY QUESTION IS, WHY ARE THERE WELL, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ONE TEACHER, ONE STUDENT CLASS, I MAY ASK ONE TEACHER, ONE STUDENT, I SAW NUMBER OF, AS I READ ENGLISH TWO AT BATTERY CREEK HIGH, THAT, THAT MAY BE THE NUMBER OF SECTIONS VERSUS THE EDUCATOR.
IF YOU LET ME PULL MY DOCUMENT, AVERAGE ENROLLMENT ZERO, WOULD YOU MIND ENROLLMENT ONE ZERO? BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT HAVE IT AVAILABLE DURING THE FIRST SEMESTER.
IT MAY BE AVAILABLE ON THE SECOND SEMESTER.
BUT IF YOU DO, LET ME PULL MY DATA POINT SO I CAN REFER TO THE SAME THING YOU ARE, SIR, JUST GIMME A MOMENT PLEASE.
BATTERY CREEK HIGH SCHOOL, ENGLISH ONE HONORS BATTERY CREEK HIGH SCHOOL.
THEY MAY JUST HAVE THAT STUDENT RIGHT NOW, JUST ON A DOUBLE ROSTER TURN.
IT MAY NOT REGISTER TILL SECOND SEMESTER AS A LIVE COURSE.
SOMETIMES I, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU LOOK AT JOURNALISM CLASSES, RIGHT, YOU MAY HAVE IN A AHEAD HIGH SCHOOL, YOU MAY HAVE, IT'S POSSIBLE, YOU MIGHT HAVE DURING ONE PERIOD, JOURNALISM ONE, JOURNALISM TWO, JOURNALISM THREE AS AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT? THAT ON A SPLIT ROSTER DURING ONE, DURING ONE PERIOD CLASS PERIOD.
BECAUSE IN JOURNALISM THEY TYPICALLY NEED ALL OF THEM TOGETHER IN THERE AS THEY'RE, AS ARE ALL IN.
SO IT MAY BE A BIT OF, YES, SIR.
ONCE, I MEAN, WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE, AT THE, UH, ACTUAL MASTER BOARD ITSELF, I, IT, I WE CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, BUT, BUT BASED ON, ON THE COURSE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SELECTING THAT THAT HAPPENS IN SCHOOL.
SO FOR CLARIFICATION, MR. KIM, WHEN I SAY SP SAYS WHAT DR.
RODRIGUEZ IS EXPLAINING, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THERE ARE FOUR 14 STUDENTS TOTAL.
I MAY SAY, PLEASE MR. CAMPBELL, LET ME HAVE PETER IN THE CLASS WITH ME CUZ HE CONTRIBUTES AS WELL.
AND I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT BOTH SMALL SECTIONS ON THE MASTER BOARD DURING THE FIRST SEMESTER.
SO THERE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER CLASSES THAT I WAS IN A LOWER NUMBER OF STUDENTS PER TEACHER.
AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THESE WERE THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS DATA WAS PULLED IN THE VERY BEGINNING WEEK OF SCHOOL.
YOU OKAY WITH IT? YEAH, BUT I, I, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED WITH, WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF TEACHER TO STUDENTS WHEN IT GETS TO THAT POINT, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND CAPITAL HONOR DON'T GET THERE EASILY, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA GET THREE STUDENTS THERE, THEN WE NEED TO GET SEVEN 10 STUDENTS THERE.
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THAT JUSTIFY THAT STAFF NUMBER BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TO ME THAT'S CRUCIAL.WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE CLASSES WITH 30 STUDENTS IN IT, IF, IF I MAY MISS DISTRIBUTOR, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA OF MATH, MR. CAMPBELL, IT IS AN AREA THAT WE DIVE INTO SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE STATE STANDARDS IN MATH FROM THE ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE TO HIGH SCHOOL, I KNOW YOU WERE A MATH EDUCATOR, THEY ARE A SIGNIFICANT STEP FROM SEVENTH TO EIGHTH GRADE IN ACQUISITION OF THE ALGEBRA THINKING PROCESS.
WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THE CARD TO DEEPEN THE ALGEBRA THINKING LOWER INTO OUR GRADE LEVEL.
IT'S GONNA, IT IS GONNA TAKE SOME WORK FROM MY TEAM BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IN ORDER TO GET THERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE DEEPER STANDARDS BEYOND WHAT'S PROPOSED BY THE STATE IN ORDER TO GIVE GREATER ACCESS FOR ALL STUDENTS INTO HIGHER LEVEL MATH CLASSES.
THAT IS AN ANALYSIS FROM READING THIS, NOT BY COURSE, BUT KNOWING THE STANDARDS AS WE DO THAT IS A CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING DEEPLY.
I NOTICE PROBLEM EXISTED LONG BEFORE YOU ARRIVED.
WE BEEN AFTER THIS QUESTION FOR YEARS.
WHY, WHY TEACHER ASSIGNMENTS GO MUCH DIFFERENTLY FROM MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, MY CONCEPT OF EDUCATION, IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE JUST THE OPPOSITE EXCEPT YOU TELLING ME WHAT I ALREADY KNOW.
THE TALENT LEVEL IS NOT THERE TO HAVE A CALCULUS HONORS CLASS OF 25 STUDENTS.
IF WE ARE GOING HAVE THAT CALCULUS HONORS CLASS IN MY MIND MM-HMM.
SO THAT'S PART OF OUR DO GRANT TO BRING THOSE COMPUTATIONAL SCIENCE AND MATH CONCEPTS DEEPER AT THE ELEMENTARY.
BUT IT IS GONNA BE A SYSTEM SHIFT AND TIME TO GET THERE.
AND I'VE HAD A SIMILAR ANALYSIS AS YOURSELF, SIR.
STUDENTS, OH, IV BIOLOGY STUDENT.
NOT THE PROGRAM, THE DISTRIBUTION.
STUDENTS IN ONE CLASS, THE NEXT STUDENT OBVIOUSLY IS GOING SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE WEALTH THAN A STUDENT WITH CLASSROOM WITH 30 IN THAT CLASS.
WE HAVE TO DO SOME THINGS, CHANGE THAT DISTRIBU AND WELL NOTED.
WE'RE IN AN IB EVALUATION YEAR WITH THE IB AND THAT IS A QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE TEAM ACTUALLY EARLIER TODAY AT FOUR O'CLOCK AT A CONFERENCE CALL.
I WANNA, THE PROGRAM IB, I JUST WANT MOST STUDENTS IN IB.
SO, UM, I LOOKED AT THIS DOCUMENT PRETTY CAREFULLY AND ONE THING TO ME THAT WAS, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST REALLY
AND FOR STUDENTS FROM CHALLENGING BACKGROUNDS SUCH AS GENERATIONAL POVERTY, ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES.
AND AFTER THAT THEY LIST AS THESE EXPERIENCES, MATERNAL DEPRESSION, EMOTIONAL AND SEXUAL ABUSE, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND THEN THEY GO ON TO SAY, OR ADVERSE COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENT AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
I WAS JUST, I DON'T KNOW, AS A PHYSICIAN, I WAS KIND OF MATERNAL DEPRESSION AS LISTED FIRST.
AND IT REALLY, AND THEY MAKE NO MENTION OF, OF, UH, YOU KNOW, AN, A FAMILY THAT'S NOT INTACT OR PARENTS THAT ARE NOT ENGAGED WITH THEIR CHILDREN.
I MEAN, TO ME THOSE ARE MUCH MORE PROBLEMATIC.
I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO AT ALL SAY THAT MATERNAL DEPRESSION IS NOT SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT.
IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT, BUT I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, WHY IS THAT MISSING FROM HERE? AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS NATIONAL EDUCATION POLICY CENTER IS EITHER, BUT THAT JUST WAS STUCK OUT TO ME AS JUST GLARINGLY WHAT ARE THEY MISSING? AND YET IT IS ON PAGE FIVE IN THAT VISIBLE LEARNING, 250 PLUS INFLUENCES ON STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.
CUZ UNDER HOME THEY HAVE, YOU CAN'T READ THIS, UM, PRINTED COPY.
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UNDER THE HOME, UH, SECTION FOR WHAT INFLUENCES STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE, THE, UM, HEADINGS ARE ENGAGED VERSUS DISENGAGED FATHERS AND INTACT TO PARENT FAMILIES.
SO DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS NATIONAL EDUCATION POLICY CENTER, I GUESS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO THINK THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD OR WHATEVER.
RODRIGUEZ, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS POLICY CENTER IS? I JUST SAW THAT AS VERY ODD THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN.
SO MY, SINCE I'M THE AUTHOR OF THAT LANGUAGE.
SO THE RESEARCH IS PULLED COLLECTIVELY.
THE NATIONAL POLICY, IT, IT, IT IS, THEY CONDUCT SEMINAL WORK FOR RESEARCH.
THE EXAMPLES CAME FROM THE AUTHOR AND THEY'RE PROVIDED AS EXAMPLES.
AND IF YOU GO ONTO THE READING GOES DEEPER, THEY IDENTIFY THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE INFLUENCE OF FAMILY OR THE SEXUAL ABUSE OR ISSUES THAT OUR CHILDREN GO THROUGH, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE SOLUTION FOR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AS A RESULT OF COLLECTIVE PRACTICE OF THE EDUCATORS, THE COMMUNITY, AND THE FAMILY.
SO THOSE WERE JUST EXAMPLES BEING PROVIDED.
THE LISTEN THAT YOU MADE REFERENCE TO BY THE RESEARCH HAS A META ANALYSIS BY JOHN HATTY.
RIGHT? THAT'S JUST ALSO PROVIDED.
SO FOR US, WE HAVE A REALIZATION THAT IT'S NOT JUST CLASS SIZE.
THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE WRITING.
GUS NOT TO NEGATE, UM, ANYTHING WITH REGARD TO ANY OTHER CONDITIONS.
IN ALL TRUTH, I WANTED TO JUST BRING LIGHT TO THAT.
IT'S MORE THAN JUST CLASS SIZE.
IT ACTUALLY A COLLECTIVE EFFORT OR HEAR THE LANGUAGE COLLECTIVE IMPACT AT CREATING A CHANGE FOR IMPROVE FOR IMPROVEMENT OF ORAL STUDENTS.
MR. SMITH, UM, IN, IN, IN TERMS OF THIS, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THIS.
HOWEVER, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE IT MORE BROKEN DOWN IN TERMS OF, UM, IN TERMS OF IMPROVING THE, THE, THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP IN TERMS OF, UM, DEMORA DEMOGRAPHIC, UH, UH, MALE, FEMALE, UM, COLOR, JUST SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND AND, AND HELP US UNDERSTAND WHO ARE TAKING, WHAT CAUSES IN AND IN WHAT AREAS AND OUR, OUR PEOPLE ADVANCING AND WHERE WE, AND WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO FOCUS IN ON AND HORN TO MORE, UH, MORE IS AS WELL.
AND I THINK SOME OF THAT WE DID DISCUSS, I BELIEVE SOME OF THAT WE DID DISCUSS DURING THAT, UH, DURING THE SESSION.
AND TODAY, ACTUALLY TODAY, WHEN I PULLED IT UP, I WAS FINALLY LOOKING MORE OF, OF THAT TO BE BROKEN UP AND IN THAT TERM SO I COULD MORE DISSECT IT AND UNDERSTAND IT EXACTLY WHERE, UH, WE WE COULD, WE COULD, WE COULD PUT MORE FUNDING AT TO, UH, HELP ACHIEVE THAT.
SO TO, THIS WAS A RESULT OF SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF HOURS OF BREAKING DOWN THE INFORMATION.
I I WANT US TO RECOGNIZE THAT DATA IS GOOD, DATA IS BAD.
IF WE LOOK AT THE CURRENT STATE WITHOUT PUTTING INTERVENTIONS TO SAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR EDUCATORS AND JUST LOOK AT, SO START BREAKING DATA DEEPER AND DEEPER.
LET'S RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO BE IN A POSITION TO PROVIDE SUPPORT AS WELL FOR ALL STUDENTS, FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF ACCELERATION.
I I JUST WANNA BRING THAT FORWARD BECAUSE AS YOU DIVE INTO NUMBERS, WE COULD DO EVERYTHING YOU, WE WANNA DO WITH NUMBERS, BUT WHAT ARE WE PREPARED IN ORDER TO HELP, AGAIN, ALL STUDENTS MEET, WHAT DO WE DO THE NEXT DAY, YOU KNOW, THE DAY OF GRADUATION WHERE, WHAT'S THAT NEXT STEP? YEAH.
AND, AND I, I DO AGREE WITH YOU SAYING, BUT RIGHT NOW, I, I DO FEEL, UH, RIGHT NOW VERSUS ANY THE DIFFERENT TIME IN, IN OUR HISTORY WHERE WE AT RIGHT NOW, AS THERE'S A DISTRICT, I BELIEVE THAT WE DO HAVE THE, THE FUNDING RIGHT NOW MORE THAN EVER TO ACTUALLY CAPITALIZE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, AS WE SAID, AND IT WAS SAID EARLIER IN OUR, IN OUR MISSION STATEMENT, THAT WE CAN COMPETE INTERNATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY SO THAT WE CAN HELP THOSE KIDS WHO MAY, MAY, MAY BE IN THOSE UPPER SPR CLASSES VERSUS THOSE STUDENTS WHO MAY BE IN, IN THEIR TIER TWO OR TIER THREE OR FOUR SCHOOL WHO MAY NEED TO COME UP.
SO I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING, I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT THE BOARD IN THE, IT'S ABOUT THE, IT'S ABOUT THE BOARD ACTUALLY PUTTING THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR, WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS RIGHT NOW AND ACTUALLY MAKING THAT HAPPEN AND BELIEVING AND, AND, AND SEEING THIS, SEEING THIS THING THROUGH.
SO, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S MORE REASON WHY I'M, LOOK, I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT INFORMATION AND I DO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE SOMETIMES DATA CAN BE JUST AS CRITICAL AS IN, IN THE WORST WAY THAN, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT TO WHERE YOU WANT IT TO BE, TO GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT STOP PUTTING OUR, OUR MONEY WHERE I'M OFF IS IN TURN TERMS OF, OF THE, THE, THE GAP THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SINCE I I'VE BEEN IN SCHOOL.
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GOER.UH, I AGREE WITH WHAT, UH, MR. SMITH SAID, AND I JUST WANNA REINFORCE WHAT, UM, OUR CHAIR SAID WITH THE ACADEMIC COMMITTEE THAT THIS IS JUST THE START.
THIS IS THE FIRST SHOT AT LOOKING AT THE DATA AND WE NEED TO DIG A LOT DEEPER.
WE NEED TO DIG INTO THE DEMOGRAPHICS AS YOU MENTIONED.
WE NEED TO DIG INTO THE QUALITY OF THE TEACHERS THAT WE HAVE AND EACH OF OUR SCHOOLS.
THAT THE, THAT THE QUALITY IS EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE COSTS OF EACH SCHOOL AND THE COST PER STUDENT.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF GREAT DATA THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.
AND THIS TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT JUST TO BREAK THIS OUT, ESPECIALLY IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND JUNIOR HIGHS WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CLASSES, PEOPLE COMING AND GOING, THE HONORS PROGRAMS AND SO ON.
SO, UH, WE'RE NOT DONE WITH THIS BY ANY MEANS.
AND, UH, BOTH THE, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE'S GONNA BE DIGGING INTO SOME OF THIS AS WELL.
SO YOUR, YOUR POINT'S WELL TAKEN, BUT MORE IS TO COME.
UM, YOU'RE NOW THE LEGISLATIVE, UM, AD REGIONAL ADVOCACY UPDATE.
SO, TWO WEEKS AGO, EARL CAMPBELL, COLONEL GEIER AND I ATTENDED THE SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION REGIONAL ADVOCACY MEETING IN SOMERVILLE.
IN EACH FALL, THE SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIA, SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION HOLDS FOUR REGIONAL STATEWIDE MEETINGS TO DISCUSS ADVOCACY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR SCHOOL BOARDS HAVING AN INFLUENCE IN THE STATE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
ALTHOUGH SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION STAFF ADVOCATES EDUCATION POLICY FOR THE COLLECTIVE SCHOOL BOARDS IN OUR STATE, THEIR VOICE IS ONLY AS STRONG AS THE RELATIONSHIPS OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND SCHOOL BOARDS HAVE WITH OUR LOCAL LAWMAKERS, I E OUR LOCAL, UH, DELEGATION.
AT THE REGIONAL ADVOCACY MEETING IN SOMERVILLE, WE RECEIVED A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE 2022 STATE LEGISLATION AFFECTING EDUCATION, AND THEN THE CONVERSATION FOCUSED ON CHANGING THE LEGISLATIVE LANDSCAPE BY STRENGTHENING SCHOOL BOARD ADVOCACY EFFORTS WITH OUR LAWMAKERS.
IDEALLY, REGULAR COMMUNICATION AND INTERACTION WITH OUR LOCAL LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION WILL ULTIMATELY ASSIST THEM IN MAKING WELL INFORMED DECISIONS REGARDING EDUCATION.
I ALSO BELIEVE, AND BROUGHT THIS POINT OUT AT THE END OF THE MEETING, THAT THE SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION NEEDS TO HIRE A TEAM OF LOBBYISTS TO SIGNIFICANTLY STRENGTHEN OUR INFLUENCE WITH STATE LEGISLATORS.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THIS, AND I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ANY OTHER WAY THAN LOBBYISTS.
AND, UM, SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, THE, OUR, UH, BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SCHOOL BOARD DOES HAVE A, HAVE A LOBBYIST ADVOCATING FOR, YOU KNOW, OUR SPECIAL INTERESTS.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR THE, FOR THE STATE AS A WHOLE, FOR THE SCHOOL BOARDS COLLECTIVELY IN THE STATE, WE NEED LOBBYISTS AND WE NEED MULTIPLE LOBBYISTS.
AND I SEE PRESIDENT DIVINE OVER THERE, SO PLEASE TAKE THAT BACK.
AND, AND, UH, I'VE ALREADY GIVEN THAT MESSAGE, UH, TO, UM, UH, SCOTT PRICE AND DEBBIE ELMORE.
SO THERE'S AN ADVOCACY TOOLKIT FOR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS ON THE SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION WEBSITE, WHICH IS SC SBA.ORG.
AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE, UH, OUR BOARD MEMBERS TO, TO LOOK THAT OVER.
IT HAS, UH, VERY GOOD, GOOD IDEAS.
IT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OUTDATED BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION, WHICH THE SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION IS NO LONGER A MEMBER.
UM, SO I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE MEETING, THAT ONE OF THE TOPICS, AND ROBIN, WOULD YOU PLEASE
AND, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE OUR RELATIONSHIP AND ADVOCACY WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION? AND I PERSONALLY WROTE THERE, I WISH I KNEW.
SO WOULD THE OTHER, UM, ATTENDEES, MR. CAMPBELL OR COLONEL GEIER, LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? UH, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORT, UNLESS OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WANNA ASK QUESTIONS.
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THAT CONCLUDES MY UPDATE ON THE MEETING IF, BUT IF ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WANNA ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.THANK YOU, MR. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE REPORT IS REGARDS TO, UH, COGNI, UH, UNDER STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.
STRATOS AND TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING, UH, WITH COGNI AND ATTENDED, UH, SESSION IN WHICH, UH, UH, THEY RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM COGNI.
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THEM TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN, CHAIRMAN, DISTRIBUTOR AND BOARD MEMBERS.
THIS EVENING I'LL BRING FORWARD MR. NICHOLAS FLOWERS, OUR DIRECTOR FOR TEACHING AND LEARNING FOR ELEMENTARY.
HE'S GONNA BE OUR KEY DRIVER IN THE PROCESS AS WE GO THROUGH ACCREDITATION.
COGNITIVE IS THE ORGANIZATION WITH WHICH WE WILL BE WORKING WITH, THEY HAVE 125 YEARS OF WORKING WITH DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS NATIONALLY.
THEY ARE A LAUNCHPAD FOR SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT.
THEIR WORK IS BASED ON RESEARCH AND E EVIDENCE BASED CRITERIA.
IT IS A PROCESS THAT WILL REVIEW POLICIES AND LEARNING CONDITIONS.
WITH THAT, I'LL BRING FORWARD MR. FLOWERS.
HE'S GONNA TAKE US TO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.
OUR TRAINING WAS ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO UP IN, UM, CHA, WAS IT CHARLOTTE AREA? I BELIEVE WE DROVE THROUGH COLUMBIA TO GET TO CHARLOTTE.
AND WITH THAT, MR. FLOWERS, SIR, GOOD EVENING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BEGINNING OUR, UM, ACCREDITATION PROCESS THIS YEAR OF GOING THROUGH RE-CERTIFICATION.
COG USES A CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT MODEL, WHICH WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS.
AND SO THEIR MODEL FOCUSES ON THREE PHASES THERE.
SO WE'RE MOVING OUT OF THE PROGRESS PHASE WHERE WE'RE CONTINUALLY CHECKING THE PROGRESS AS WE GO THROUGH.
AND AS OUR ACCREDITATION IS UP IN JUNE OF NEXT YEAR, UM, WE'RE NOW STARTING THE SELF-ASSESSMENT PHASE OF, UM, REACCREDITATION.
SO WITHIN THAT PHASE IS STARTING PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, MRS. WALTON AND MEMBERS OF HER TEAM ALONG WITH I S D.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE VARIOUS PIECES OF DATA AND ASPECTS THAT WE NEED TO COLLECT IN ORDER TO MAKE OUR CASE, UH, THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING TO SUPPORT, UM, OUR ACCREDITATION PROCESS THERE.
SO COGNO HAS, UM, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO COGS BUILT OFF OF 30 STANDARDS.
SO WE HAVE TO PROVE WHERE OUR DISTRICT IS PERFORMING AT FOR ALL 30 STANDARDS.
THEY HAVE MADE CHANGES TO HOW THEY DO ACCREDITATION.
SO SOME OF YOU THAT HAVE WORKED THIS PROCESS BEFORE, THEY WOULD BRING A LARGE TEAM ON SITE FOR MULTIPLE DAYS.
SO THEY NOW ARE REALLY SHIFTING THAT HEAVY LIFTING TO THE DISTRICT TO DO NOW.
SO WE WILL DO THE SELF-ASSESSMENT, WE WILL DO OUR AUDITS AND, AND GO THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PROCESS.
AND THEN THEY WILL BRING IN A SMALLER TEAM JUST FOR A DAY, MAYBE TWO DAYS, UM, IS WHAT THEY, THEY ARE TARGETING AT THIS POINT AND REAFFIRM THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING.
SO THE FIRST SET OF STANDARDS DEAL WITH, UM, CULTURE FOR LEARNING AND THEY HAVE DIVIDED THEIR 30 STANDARDS INTO FOUR KEY CHARACTERISTICS.
SO THIS ONE BEING THE FIRST ONE.
AND HERE THEY'RE REALLY ENSURING THAT THE DISTRICT IS FOCUSED ON OUR MISSION.
WE ARE ENGAGING OUR STAKEHOLDERS.
OUR STAKEHOLDERS ARE, UM, BEING SUPPORTED WITHIN, UM, OUR GENERAL CULTURE AND REALLY HONING IN ON MEETING THE NEEDS OF STUDENTS, BOTH ACADEMIC AND THOSE NEEDS THAT ARE NOT FULLY ACADEMIC.
AND IT'S ENCOMPASSING OF SIX STANDARDS THAT HAVE THAT PRIMARY CHARACTERISTIC HERE.
THE NEXT CHARACTERISTIC IS ENCOMPASSING OF NINE PRIMARY STANDARDS, AND THAT IS OUR LEADERSHIP FOR LEARNING.
HERE, WE'RE FOCUSING ON ENSURING THAT COMMUNICATION IS HAPPENING FOR LEARNING OF WHAT'S THE VISION THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ENCOMPASSING OUR TASK AT HAND, HOW ARE WE MODELING THAT AND ENGAGING OF ENSURING THAT WE ARE ACHIEVING OUR RESULTS THROUGH THAT LEADERSHIP ASPECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH TOWARDS.
SO IT IT, IT'S BLENDING THE CULTURE ASPECT, BUT TAKING ON THAT LEADERSHIP, UM, STRAIN TO IT.
THE NEXT GROUP ENCOMPASSES EIGHT STANDARDS OF ENGAGEMENT FOR LEARNING.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS ARE FULLY ENGAGED IN THEIR LEARNING PROCESS.
THEY'RE HELPING TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THEIR LEARNING.
WE HAVE THAT BROAD AGENCY THINKING TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE PROCESSES IN PLACE FOR HAVING LEARNING HAPPEN THAT ACHIEVES THE OUTCOMES IN WHICH WE ARE FOCUSED
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IN ON, AND THAT OUR STAKEHOLDERS ARE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH CONFIDENCE THAT THE DISTRICT IS DOING WHAT NEEDS HAPPEN, UM, TO ACHIEVE OUR END RESULT OF EDUCATING OUR STUDENTS.AND THEN THE LAST CHARACTERISTIC DEALS IN THAT GROWTH AND LEARNING ASPECT.
HERE WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE ACHIEVEMENT ASPECT, AND IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT, ARE OUR STUDENTS GETTING TO WHERE WE NEED THEM TO BE BY THE END, WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL? HAVE WE DONE WHAT WE NEED TO TO GET THEM WHERE THEY NEED TO BE TO BE SUCCESSFUL CITIZENS IN LIFE? UM, AND, AND REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THOSE SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE SET IN A PROGRESSION TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
SO WHAT WE'LL DO THEN IS WE WILL TAKE ALL 30 STANDARDS AND ARE THOSE FOUR AREAS, AND WE WILL BE HAVING TEAMS COME TOGETHER AND THEY WILL BE BUILDING OUT, UM, A PORTFOLIO OF EVIDENCE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE DOING IN EACH OF THE STANDARDS, AND REALLY HONING IN ON WHERE DO WE AS A DISTRICT RATE OURSELF, UM, AND THEN SUPPORTING THAT RATING ON ALL 30 STANDARDS.
ANOTHER, UM, LARGE PIECE OF THIS IS THAT IT ALSO REQUIRES THREE ANALYSIS TO BE PERFORMED.
THE FIRST ANALYSIS IS ON STUDENT PERFORMANCE.
SO, UM, HERE FOR THESE THREE ANALYSIS, MR. FALLON AND I WILL BE LEADING THE CHARGE TO ANALYZE THE DATA, GET THE DATA, AND, AND TACKLE THOSE VARIOUS PIECES.
SO THE FIRST ONES OUR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT DATA.
WHAT DATA DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO SHOW THE PERFORMANCE OF STUDENTS? AND THEN DOING THAT DEEP DIVE ANALYSIS WHERE THE END RESULT WILL BE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING A THEORY OF ACTION OR, OR MULTIPLE THEORIES OF ACTION TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE AND GROW THE DISTRICT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OF OUR ACCREDITATION CYCLE.
THE SECOND ANALYSIS IS LOOKING AT STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK.
SO WE WILL BE SURVEYING STUDENTS, TEACHERS, AND THE COMMUNITY, AND HONING IN THEN ON THOSE RESULTS OF DEVELOPING, AGAIN, A THEORY OF ACTION TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OUR PERCEPTION DATA AND HOW DO WE TAKE THAT TO LOOK AT THE, UM, GENERAL REALITY THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.
AND THEN THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE LEARNING OBSERVATIONS.
HERE, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE NOT DOING OBSERVATIONS OF TEACHERS.
WE ARE DOING OBSERVATIONS OF THE STUDENT LEARNING.
SO WHEN SOMEBODY GOES INTO A CLASSROOM, THEY WILL BE IN THERE FOR 20 MINUTES TO DO AN OBSERVATION, AND THEY'RE NOT FOCUSED ON THE TEACHER.
THEY'RE FOCUSED ON THE LEARNING AND, AND WHAT THE CHILDREN ARE, UM, INTERACTING WITHIN THEIR EXPERIENCES.
THE FINAL REQUIRED PIECES WOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
HERE WE'RE GONNA OUTLINE THE HISTORY OF THE DISTRICT, UM, WHAT THE INITIATIVES WE HAVE IN PLACE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HEAD TOWARDS, UM, BUT JUST REALLY SETTING THE STAGE FOR WHAT MAKES BEAUFORT COUNTY, BEAUFORT COUNTY.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO DO OVERALL REFLECTIONS.
SO WE'LL LOOK AT ALL OF OUR STANDARDS, ALL OF OUR ANALYSIS, AND WE WILL WRITE REFLECTIONS OVER WHAT DO WE SEE, OUR STRENGTHS, OUR WEAKNESSES, UM, VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
AND THEN FINALLY WE'LL LOOK AT, UM, ASSURANCES BECAUSE COA HAS SPECIFIC ASSURANCES THAT WE HAVE TO ASSURE THAT WE ARE COMPLYING WITH.
AND THEN IF THERE ARE ANY THAT, UM, WE DO NOT FEEL THAT WE ARE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH, THEY DO REQUIRE THEN THAT WE HAVE AN ACTION PLAN DEVELOPED.
SO THAT WAY OVER THE COURSE OF THE FIVE YEARS, WE ARE BRINGING OUR SELF COMPLIANT OR MAINTAINING, UM, THAT HIGH LEVEL OF EXPECTATION THERE.
AND THEN LASTLY, WHEN WE THINK OF THE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT MODEL, THAT'S ALL OF THE SELF-ASSESSMENT.
AS WE SHIFT THEN INTO THE ENGAGEMENT REVIEW, THIS IS WHERE THAT MORE TRADITIONAL TEAM COMES INTO PLAY, THAT WE WILL HAVE WHAT THEY CALL THEIR ENGAGEMENT REVIEW TEAM.
UM, WE WILL WORK WITH THEIR MEMBERS, THEN AS THEY REVIEW OUR FOUR PORTFOLIO OF EVIDENCE, UM, FOLLOW THEIR VERY SPECIFIC PROTOCOLS OF WHAT THEY REQUIRE TO SAY THAT WE'RE ACCREDITED, WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH ALL OF THAT.
AND THEN THEY WILL ISSUE A REPORT OF WHERE THEY FIND US, AND THEN, UM, HOPEFULLY THEY FIND US THAT WE ARE FULLY ACCREDITED, AND THEN THEY WILL TAKE IT TO THEIR LARGER, UM, MEETING THAT THEY HAVE GLOBALLY TO ISSUE OUR ACCREDITATION.
SO WE ARE STARTING THOSE INITIAL PHASES.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OUR ACTION PLAN AND TIMELINE FULLY IN PLACE, AND WE ARE STARTING TO DEVELOP OUR, UM, TEAMS OF BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER TO BREAK DOWN OUR STANDARDS AND DEVELOP THE PORTFOLIO, EMPOWERING THOSE THAT ARE ASPIRING LEADERS, TEACHERS, ALL OF THAT TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS.
SO WE ARE PULLING TOGETHER THOSE TEAMS NOW WORKING WITH DR.
CAMPBELL TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE THAT SHE'S WORKED WITH, UM, TO GROW THEM AS A FORM OF PD ALSO.
AND THEN, UM, WE ARE STARTING THE ANALYSIS OF PULLING WHAT DATA DO WE WANT TO USE? UM, AND
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WE'RE REVIEWING WHAT SURVEYS DO WE ALREADY PUT OUT.SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO DO ADDITIONAL SURVEYS, BUT BEING VERY PURPOSEFUL WITH WHAT WE ALREADY DOING TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO REPLICATE AND USE SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
SO, UM, THAT IS THE PROCESS OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
UH, GOOD BRIEFING IS A GOOD START.
UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A COUPLE OF ACCREDITATION PROCESSES AND I FOUND THEM TO BE MORE TOP DOWN ANALYSIS RATHER THAN BOTTOM UP ANALYSIS.
I, I WOULD BE JUST, I, I KNOW YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR SAMPLE SIZE.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR INSTRUMENTS AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GATHER THE BOTTOM UP PIECE TO BE ABLE TO GET A PICTURE OF A VERY LARGE DIVERSE STUDENT POPULATION, WHICH DEMOGRAPHICALLY AND EVERYTHING HAS VERY, VERY SPREAD OUT.
HOW ARE YOU GONNA ENSURE YOU GET A REALLY GOOD BOTTOM UP ANALYSIS? AND I KNOW DON'T, I KNOW YOU CAN'T GET INTO SPECIFICS, BUT JUST GENERALLY HOW YOU DO.
SO OF THE LARGER THREE REQUIRED ANALYSIS, THE ONE BEING THAT LOOKING IN AT THE STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A LARGE ENOUGH SAMPLE SIZE OF ENCOURAGING OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT SURVEY.
SO OUR THOUGHT BEING THAT IF WE CAN REALLY HONE IN, IF WE ARE ALREADY ADMINISTERING SURVEYS, CAN WE FOCUS IN ON THEM TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING ENOUGH PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE SURVEYS, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT LARGER SAMPLE SIZE OF THE PEOPLE, UM, THAT ARE AT THOSE VARIOUS LEVELS OF STUDENTS, TEACHERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN AS WE ARE BEGINNING THE STANDARDS, ALL 30 STANDARDS, WE ARE FORMING COMMITTEES THAT ARE MADE UP OF, UH, TEACHERS AT SECONDARY ELEMENTARY.
WE'RE WORKING TO IDENTIFY THOSE ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS AND EVERYTHING THAT CAN ASSIST THERE, BUT REALLY GETTING OWNERSHIP OF THOSE COMMITTEES AT THIS STAGE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, IF YOU WILL, UH, WITH HAVING ONE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE.
SO THEN THAT WAY, THAT INITIAL BODY OF WORK OF WHAT THEY UNPACKED AND SAW AND COLLECTED WILL BEGIN THERE.
SO IT'S NOT MYSELF OR, OR THAT TOP DOWN APPROACH SAYING, THIS IS WHAT I NEED FROM YOU.
IT'S THEM STARTING WITH WHAT, WHAT THEY FEEL THAT WE NEED TO MEET THERE, FOLLOW UP, UH, REALLY WATCH YOUR SURVEYS.
AND YOU ALMOST HAVE TO MAKE, MAKE IT A MANDATORY RESPONSE RATHER THAN WHO DECIDES THEY WANNA RESPOND.
BECAUSE GENERALLY YOU GET BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM AND YOU LOSE THE MIDDLE PART.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE EACHS THAT, UH, I JUST ASK YOU TO BE CAREFUL IN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW OUR STAKEHOLDERS, OUR PARENTS, OUR STUDENTS, OUR TEACHERS, OUR THO THOSE ARE EASY TO CAPTURE.
YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY WE SIT HERE AND WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND OUR BOARD POLICY DOESN'T ALLOW US TO RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS, BUT IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT THE COMMUNITY IS OFTEN UNAWARE OF WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN OUR SCHOOLS AND THE PRACTICES THAT WE, WE HAVE IN PLACE.
SO I THINK, UM, THAT HAVE TO CAPTURE WAY TO GET THE, OTHER THAN THE, THE S I C YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON THE S I CS, WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO BROADEN, UM, WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITIES KNOW.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF STUFF ON THE WEBSITE THAT THEY COULD ACCESS AND FIND OUT, BUT THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO HIT AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO BE HIT.
I THINK, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, JUST AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD TONIGHT, RIGHT? SOME, SOME OF OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOLS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A WAY NECESSARILY TO EMAIL OR CONNECT WITH THEM THAT WAY.
UH, BUT PERHAPS OTHER MEDIA, UH, OUTLETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SHOWCASE ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR SCHOOLS, UH, THAT WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE WAY WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT TO YOUR POINT, RIGHT? I THINK THE OTHER THING, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, COLONEL GAR, I THINK THE, THE VALUE IN SURVEYS IS INHERENT IN THE AMOUNT
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OF PARTICIPATION IN THOSE SURVEYS.UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO HAVE OPT OUT FORMS FOR, UH, SURVEYS, RIGHT? SO SOME SURVEYS, SOME THINGS THAT THE STATE DOES, HAS REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
AND, AND, AND THEY PLACE THOSE ON THERE, AND THAT COMES FROM THE STATE.
THAT'S NOT FROM THE DISTRICT, RIGHT? HOWEVER, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS WOULD FALL IN TERMS OF, OF THAT.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT HAS, IF THIS ONE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE AN OPT OUT FOR, BUT YOUR POINT IS, IS GREAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE VALUE IN THAT INFORMATION IS AS STRONG AS THE PARTICIPATION IN THAT COMPONENT.
MRS. TRU, I COULD JUST ADD TO MRS. ROB'S POINT, WHEN WE DID THE LISTEN AND LEARN, WE FOUND WE HAD CLOSE TO A THOUSAND RESPONDENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATING WHEN I DID THE ANALYSIS AND BROKE DOWN THE RESPONSES WITH WORKING IN COMMUNICATIONS.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A SOFTWARE, UM, PROGRAM THAT COULD ACTUALLY KEEP LIVE RESPONDENTS TO INFORMATION AND KEY QUESTIONS.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING AT A FEW AVENUES TO GET THE VOICE.
I VERY MUCH NOTED, MA'AM, MR. ROKA.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST TO BOARD MEMBERS, UM, AND I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A WHILE, EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, I WORK WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBER AND WE HAVE MEETINGS EVERY TWO TO THREE MONTHS IN DIFFERENT AREAS, HIS DISTRICT, AND HE GIVE HIS REPORT ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY, AND I'D GIVE MY REPORT AS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SCHOOL AND IN THE BOARD.
SO MAYBE THAT'S YOUR BEST THING TO DO.
MR. IN TERMS OF ATION, IS THIS A NATIONAL, UH, TEMPLATE OR IS IT JUST THE STATE? SO COGNI, AS YOU MAY ALSO KNOW, AT ADVANCED ED, THEIR NATIONAL ORGANIZATION YES, SIR.
AND WHEN WE GET THEY NATIONAL AND THEY'RE INTERNATIONAL, OKAY.
WELL, WHEN WE GET A REPORT, LET'S SAY WE GET CREDITED ALL THE SCHOOLS IN THE STATE, ALL THE DISTRICT IN THE STATE USE THIS.
SO ALL THE SCHOOLS WITHIN OUR SYSTEM, YEAH.
SO OUR SCHOOLS WILL, THIS WILL BE A DISTRICT ACCREDITATION THAT'LL BE INCLUSIVE OVER EACH OF OUR SCHOOLS.
SO POSSIBLE FOR SOME SCHOOLS TO GET IT.
AND SOME SCHOOLS DO NOT GET ACCREDITATION MATHEMATICALLY.
MATHEMATICALLY THAT IS POSSIBLE.
MATHEMATICALLY, THAT WOULD COME UP AS AN ASSURANCE FOR SOMETHING FOR CORRECTION TO BE LOOKED AT AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BUT FROM VISITING THE SCHOOLS, AND I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL IN FRONT OF ME, BUT MATHEMATICALLY, YES, THAT IS POSSIBLE, SIR.
WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO GET BACK ON, SO KATHY SAYS, TERMS OF OUR PUBLIC PERSPECTIVE, WE GET REPORTS OUT FROM, FROM EACH SCHOOL ON HOW THEY FED WITH THE ACCREDITATION PROCESS AND WHERE THE STRENGTHS WERE AND WHERE THE WEAKNESSES WERE, IF WE WANTED TO PUBLICIZE THAT.
RIGHT? SO, AND, AND I'LL LET MR. FLOWERS JOINED IN.
SO THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE UTILIZING DISTRICTWIDE, THERE ARE OTHER DISTRICTS WITHIN THE STATE THAT THE SCHOOLS DO INDIVIDUAL ACCREDITATION, OR SO, BEAUFORD COUNTY, ACTUALLY, WE'RE TAKING A DISTRICTWIDE APPROACH.
IF WE FIND IN OUR, IN THE PROCESS THAT SCHOOLS ARE NOT MEETING THE STANDARD, THAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION, LET'S SAY, FOR IMPROVEMENT WITHIN OUR LANGUAGE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT THIS AND I SAW A POSSIBILITY FOR BOTH KIND OF DIRECTIVES AND, AND OUR DISTRICTWIDE APPROACH WOULD PROBABLY PROTECT US IN TERMS OF ACCREDITATION.
NOW, IT'S NOT FINE ENOUGH THOUGH US TO REALLY LOOK AT IT FROM, FROM PERSPECTIVES THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN TERMS OF THE WEAKER POINTS IN THE SCHOOLS.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN CREATE THAT EVIDENCE PORTFOLIO THAT THEY MENTIONED SO MUCH BY JUST COMBINING THE EVIDENCES THAT WE DO IT, BUT WE DON'T DO IT AT EVERY SCHOOL.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT INTERNALLY.
IF WE DON'T TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE CHEATING OURSELVES OUTTA THE PROCESS.
INTERNALLY, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT INTERNALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALSO ONE OF THOSE THINGS I THINK LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE OF, RIGHT? THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS INSTRUCTIONAL REVIEWS INTERNALLY, OURSELVES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND, AND IN, IN ESSENCE, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT COGNIS GONNA DO IS, IS A LARGER, MORE GLOBAL DISTRICTWIDE, UH, UH, REVIEW.
AND THEN MORE THAN JUST INSTRUCTIONAL.
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NOW WE, WE, WE HAVE AN INSTRUCTIONAL REVIEW PROCESS THAT WE DO AT EACH OF OUR SCHOOLS THAT ZEROS IN ON INSTRUCTIONAL PART OF IT.THAT'S WHY THEY PULL, PULL AWAY FROM IT, THE INTERNAL DO IT, LOOK AT IT FOR OVERVIEW TYPE THING.
NOW, OKAY, MR. SMITH, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN TERMS OF A COUPLE THINGS I'VE HEARD SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, IN, IN TERMS TO EVEN COVE, UH, TO, TO THIS, COMING TO THIS COGNITIVE REVIEW, UH, COVE ACTUALLY ABOUT, AT, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE COGNITIVE STILL SOMETIMES PULL BOARD BOARD MEMBERS THAT THEY, THEY CAN ASK BOARD MEMBERS QUESTIONS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THE PROCESS UNDER ADVANCE.
IT, THERE WAS A BOARD MEMBER, UM, SELF-EVALUATION AND A SURVEY CONDUCTED.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA BE UTILIZING THAT IN THE CURRENT, YES, IT HAS TO BE SHARED.
AND IT'S NOT PART OF THEIR ELLIOT SURVEY.
IT IS NOT A DIRECTIVE WITHIN ONE OF ANY OF THE 30 GOALS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED.
SO NOW, THE PRIOR PROCESS, MR. SMITH, YOU'RE RIGHT ON POINT.
THERE WERE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SERVICE THAT WE UTILIZED IN.
ONE OF THEM WAS FOR BOARD MEMBERS AND A SELF-EVALUATION OF SURVEY OF THE BOARD, AND A SELF-EVALUATION OF THE BOARD ADVANCE SAID, THAT MODEL DOESN'T EXIST AT THIS TIME.
AND THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UH, COUPLE, LIKE I SAID, A COUPLE COLLEAGUES HAVE BROUGHT UP A COUPLE GREAT POINTS.
AND YOU KNOW, I, I TOO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS BORDER ON ONE OF THOSE POINTS IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS, IN TERMS OF, AND I HAD TO BRING STUFF ABOUT HAVING MEETINGS AND COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOL BUILDINGS WHERE, WHERE TAXPAYERS ARE, ARE PAYING MONEY.
AND, AND THAT IS ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS.
AND AT THE TOP WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AS A BOARD, WE ALSO HAVE TO DRIVE THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY, WITH COMMUNITY PEOPLE, WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WHETHER THEY'RE ARE PARENTS, WHETHER THEY'RE GRANDPARENTS, OR, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL TAXPAYERS.
AND SO WE, AT TIMES, WE HAVE TO GO OUT AS BOARD MEMBERS AND GET THEIR INPUT AND SEE HOW, HOW, HOW, HOW THEY FEEL IN THE PULSE OF THEM.
WHICH I AM VERY IN INSTRUMENT AND I AM VERY INVOLVED IN MY COMMUNITY.
AND MY COMMUNITY WILL NOT LET ME SIT ASIDE AND NOT BE, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT IS ONE THING THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SCRATCH AT THIS BOARD.
AND WHEN YOU COME TO SOMETHING LIKE A CO, IF THAT WAS, THEN WE, SOME OF US, YOU KNOW, THEY EXPECT US TO KNOW THINGS THAT WE MAY NOT KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE OF THE IMPORTANCE TO KNOW.
SO I SAID THAT TO SAY THAT IT STARTS AT THE TOP, THE BOARD, WE CAN EXPECT FOR STAFF TO DO IT, BUT WE TOO HAVE TO JUMP IN.
AND WE HAD TO CHILL THIS THING WHERE IT'S THE, SOMETIMES IT'S STAFF VERSUS BOARD OR, YOU KNOW, BOARD VERSUS, YOU KNOW, AT THEN DAY, WE, WE ALL HAVE TO BE ON, ON THE SAME ACCORD AND ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HELP US CLOSE THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HELP US NOT WORRY WHEN WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THIS RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE IT AFFECTED, IT AFFECT EVERYONE.
CAN I ASK, IS, IS THIS A REQUIRE A STATE REQUIREMENT? OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO EVERYONE.
THIS IS A STATE REQUIREMENT THAT WE DO THIS.
AND, AND IF WE DID NOT GO THROUGH COG YET, WE WOULD GO THROUGH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROCESS THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO SOUTH CAROLINA.
SO IT KEEPS, IT, IT'S JUST BETTER FOR US TO GO THROUGH THE COG YEAR ROUTE VERSUS DOING SOUTH CAROLINA SPECIFIC.
NEXT, UM, ON THE SUPERINTENDENT,
[Superintendent’s Report]
NEXT ON THE SUPERINTENDENTS REPORT, UNDER OTHER MATTERS IS THE COMMUNITY PROJECT REVIEW COMMITTEE.UM, AND AS WE DISCUSSED, UH, AT THE WORK SESSION, UH, THE, THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WE MOVE THROUGH, UM, PREPARATION FOR, UM, FOR A POTENTIAL OF THE REFERENDUM, UM, THAT REQUIRES US TO GET, GET THE BALL ROLLING IN CERTAIN AREAS.
AND SO, UH, THE COMMUNITY PROJECT REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT, UH, WE HAD IN PLACE, OR THAT WAS UTILIZED, UH, LAST TIME, IS ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA, UH, HAVE IN PLACE AGAIN THIS TIME.
AND I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU, I HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA TODAY, BECAUSE PART OF THAT PROCESS BOARD MEMBERS RECOMMENDED, UH, TO INDIVIDUALS, UH, TO EACH ONE, EACH BOARD MEMBER RECOMMENDED TWO INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE.
AND SO I'M ASKING THAT YOU DO THAT AGAIN, AND THAT, UH, YOU LET ME KNOW WHO THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS ARE.
UH, AND I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, UH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UH, UM, SO THAT'S MY REQUEST THIS EVENING.
WHAT'S YOUR DEADLINE? A WEEK, TWO WEEKS.
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POSSIBLE MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.AND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE MEANS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS TO EACH OF
SO, YES, THIS BOAT, RIGHT? UH, WHAT IS THE COMMITMENT? CAUSE I WASN'T ON THE BOARD WHEN THE LAST ONE.
IS IT LIKE WEEKLY MEETINGS, MONTHLY MEETINGS? I KNOW THEY DID, THEY MEANT QUITE FREQUENTLY.
MR. ROTTING, DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THAT? BUT IT WAS WEEKLY, WASN'T IT? CAUSE I'M GONNA ADD IT WAS WEEKLY.
COUPLE HOURS A TIME FOR THREE MONTHS.
MR. UM, DO HEAR WHAT YOU, UH, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
BUT, UM, I JUST DO HAVE A CONCERN TOO WITH, UH, JANUARY WITH US BEING A ABOUT TO, UH, POSSIBLY SEAT NEW MEMBERS ON THE BOARD.
THEN HOW WOULD THAT, UH, IF THEY, THEY COME IN AND THEY WANT TO ADD PEOPLE, THEN HOW WOULD THAT WORK OUT WITH THIS? UH, AND IN TURN, UH, AS WELL, THIS, WELL, YOU KNOW, LET'S SEE HOW IT SHAKES OUT IN JANUARY.
I MEAN, HONESTLY, I THINK THAT, THAT WE NEED TO GET THE BALL ROLLING.
I CAN'T WAIT TILL JANUARY, UH, IN TERMS OF THIS TIMELINE, CUZ THIS COMMITTEE HAS A LOT OF WORK TO DO, UH, ONCE THEY COME TOGETHER.
SO WE NEED TO GET THE BALL ROLLING WITH, WITH THIS COMMITTEE.
UH, SO, UH, MY REQUEST IS THAT YOU, UH, THAT YOU PROVIDE TO, UH, MEMBERS, I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THOSE MEMBERS ARE REPRESENTING, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE YOUR, THEY'RE YOUR, UH, UH, CONSTITUENTS, RIGHT? THEY'RE ALL, ALL, YOU KNOW, CONSTITUENTS IN THE COUNTY.
AND SO, SO THEY'RE REPRESENTING, UH, THE WORK AND THE VOICE OF, OF, OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, RIGHT? SO, SO I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO GET THE BALL ROLLING, AND I THINK WE NEED, I, WE NEED TO START BY ESTABLISHING THIS COMMITTEE, AND WE CANNOT WAIT TILL JANUARY TO DO IT.
AND THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.
AND, AND THE, AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS, AND ESTABLISHING THIS COM IN THIS COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, I, I, MY, MY QUESTION IS ALONG THE LINES ARE, ONCE WE'RE ESTABLISH COMMITTEE, ARE, ARE WE SAYING THAT WE HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE ARE COMING UP WITH A BOMB BOMB REFERENDUM? AND IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT, WHAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN DOING THAT, TO ME, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SAYING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT WE ARE COMING UP WITH A BOMB REFERENDUM.
THAT, THAT, THAT IS NOT, UH, WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, UM, THE BOARD WILL HAVE TO VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY RECOMMENDATION REGARDING A REFERENDUM.
AND SO, SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE BEGINNING STAGES OF, OF A PROCESS THAT WOULD IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC NEEDS AND THEN WOULD PACKAGE THOSE NEEDS, UH, UH, FOR THEM, THE BOARD, TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD OR NOT, BASED ON THAT INFORMATION.
AND, AND SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE FROM THE BOARD WILL BE PART OF THE COMMITTEE.
UH, THE OTHER PART OF THE COMMITTEE COMES FROM CLUSTER SITES, UH, CLUSTERS, UH, THERE'S FIVE CLUSTERS.
AND LAST TIME WOULD BE THE SAME THING.
THERE WOULD BE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, ON THE COMMITTEE OF INDIVIDUALS THAT, THAT ARE ALSO APPOINTED.
BUT ULTIMATELY, UH, UH, IT'LL FOLLOW THE SAME FORMAT AS LAST TIME.
AND YOU REMEMBER AT THE END OF THAT, THE BOARD MADE A DECISION, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN JUNE OF 2019, TO DETERMINE WE GO FORWARD, OR WE DON'T GO FORWARD THAT DECISION.
IT WOULD BE ON THE BOARD'S HANDS, UH, UH, WHEN THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE AND RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MADE, RECOMMEND WORK OF THE COMMITTEE'S DONE, AND THEN RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MADE.
AND, AND, AND I JUST WANNA BE CLEARLY TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GOING AT WITH THIS.
SO CAN YOU JUST TELL ME, LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S THAT? YEAH, SURE.
UH, AT, AT THAT SEPTEMBER 9TH WORKSHOP I SHARED WITH, UH, WITH THE BOARD THE PROCESS.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT FORMING A COMMUNITY PROJECT REVIEW COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW.
THAT COMMITTEE IS GONNA MEET BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY, UH, BETWEEN SOMETIME IN OCTOBER AND FEBRUARY WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER FOR THE, FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THEN, UM, UH, IN MARCH, UH, THERE'LL BE A REPORT OF THE FINDINGS OF THE COMMUNITY PROJECT REVIEW COMMITTEE.
THEN AROUND APRIL OR MAY, UH, THE BOARD WILL REVIEW THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AROUND MAY OR JUNE AT A, UH, UH, THE BOARD WOULD WORK WITH, UH, BOND COUNCIL, TYPICALLY.
UH, AND THEN, UH, AND THEN A DECISION, THE BOARD WOULD MAKE A DECISION, UH,
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IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT.AND THEN, UH, SOMETIME AROUND, UH, WELL, BETWEEN JULY OR NOVEMBER, THEN WE HAVE TO GO AROUND THE COUNTY LIKE WE DID LAST TIME, UH, SHARING WITH EVERYBODY AT DIFFERENT MEETINGS, UH, WHAT THAT REFERENDUM IS ALL ABOUT.
AND THEN, UH, THAT WOULD CULMINATE IN NOVEMBER WITH A VOTE.
IF THE BOARD'S NEED, NEED TWO NAMES FROM CONSTITUENTS.
THIS WAS A POINT LAST TIME THEY SHOULD BE CONSTITUENTS IN YOUR DISTRICT, IN YOUR DISTRICT.
THAT THAT WOULD REALLY BE HELPFUL.
BECAUSE LAST TIME WE HAD PEOPLE NOMINATE FOLKS FROM OTHER DISTRICTS AND YEAH.
THAT KIND OF CONSTITUENTS IN YOUR DISTRICT, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO GET A BROAD TWO CONSTITUENTS UP.
TWO CONSTITUENTS FROM EACH OF YOUR DISTRICTS, OKAY? MM-HMM.
I EMPHASIZE THAT IF IT COMES IN AFTER TWO 11 OR 10 11 RATHER, YOU JUST, YOU'RE NOT GONNA, YOU IGNORE IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU NEED IT BY 10 11 BY 10 11.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CONFUSION.
[Board Business Action]
WE HAVE THE UPDATE ON CITY OF BUFORT, ANNEXATION OF OUR SMALLEST ACADEMY.WE HAD A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT WE WERE GONNA LOOK INTO.
I BELIEVE ONE OF THEM WAS PERMITTING.
I, I WILL, I DID LOOK INTO THE ISSUE PERMITTING AND TALK TO THE COUNTY STORM WATER DEPARTMENT.
THE COUNTY STORM WATER PERMIT WILL STAY IN PLACE, ALTHOUGH AFTER THEIR TRANSITION, THE STATE INSPECTORS WOULD TAKE OVER.
SO THE COUNTY WOULD NO LONGER INSPECT THE JOB.
THE STATE WOULD THEN TAKE OVER INSPECTION PURPOSES.
SO, BUT THE PERMIT ITSELF WOULD NOT CHANGE.
AND SO WE'D STAY WITH THE COUNTY'S PERMIT REQUIREMENTS.
SO THAT ANSWER TO ME, THE QUESTION OF WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS OCCURS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT? SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE IN MY MIND.
UM, THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO WORK OUT, CUZ I KNOW THE MAYOR IS SITTING BACK HERE, UM, IS THE SRO COVERAGE.
THAT WAS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT, SO I RE I, I RECEIVED, UH, AN INFORMA INFORMATIONAL, UH, EMAIL TODAY THAT THEY'RE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING, UH, AN SSL AND THAT THEY WOULD WORK TO, UH, TO HIRE SOMEBODY THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE.
SO THAT, THAT MAY TAKE SOME TIME.
BUT IN THAT TRANSITION, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT AND WORK WITH, UH, WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LAPSE OF COVERAGE.
SO OUR NEXT STEP IS WHAT IS OUR NEXT STEP? I THINK WE HAVE TO REQUEST ANNEXATION APPROACH.
NOW YOU'RE SPEAKING AS THE MAYOR, NOT AS A CITIZEN.
WELL, I, YOU KNOW, I TRY NOT TO PULL RANK WHEN I COME TO OTHER PEOPLE'S MEETINGS AND ALWAYS FILE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, ALTHOUGH YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO PULL RANK IF YOU EVER COME TO ONE OF MY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
CAUSE I LIKE HAVING OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS IN CHAMBERS.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT TAKES, UH, ONE VOTE OF SCHOOL BOARD, UH, TO ESSENTIALLY PETITION THE CITY.
CAUSE AS I SAID EARLIER, UH, SOUTH CAROLINA STATE LAW FAVORS THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, AND SO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE PROCESS BY WHICH WE CAN ENFORCE ANNEX SOMEBODY, UM, IT REQUIRES A PROPERTY OWNER TO PETITION THE CITY.
UH, AND THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING AND TWO PUBLIC READINGS AT CITY HALL, UM, TO ACTUALLY BRING YOU, BRING YOU IN INTO THE CITY.
AND SO CITIZENS WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THOSE MEETINGS.
UM, UH, MY POLICE CHIEF IS THE ONE WHO SENT OVER, UH, THE EMAIL TO THE SUPERINTENDENT TODAY, UH, SPOKE WITH HIM THIS MORNING.
AND THE CITY MANAGER, UM, THEY HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH SHERIFF TANNER.
UM, AND SO WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, NO LAPSE IN COVERAGE AND THAT, UH, THERE IS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER THERE.
UM, CAUSE WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT SAFETY AND SECURITY IS AT, AT ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS.
UM, AND I WILL ALSO SAY THERE IS NO URGENCY ON THIS.
THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT'S A PRIORITY OF THE CITIES AND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN OF, UH, WORKING WITHIN THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES.
UM, AND SO WE CAN WORK ON TIMING TOO.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A MOTION WITH SOME OF CONTINGENT TIMING, UM, HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH, WITH STAFF, UH, OR HAVE MY STAFF SIT DOWN WITH YOUR STAFF TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE, HOW WE MOVE THAT FORWARD.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE
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A, A PLAN BEFORE WE DO THIS, BEFORE WE MAKE THE MOTION SO THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE STEPS ARE WHEN WE WOULD ANTICIPATE DOING THAT.SO THIS IS SMOOTH AND PEOPLE CLAP BECAUSE WE DID IT.
SO THAT WOULD BE IN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO.
SO I WILL CONNECT WITH, UM, I'M SORRY, DID YOU WANT TO GO OR YOU WANT ME TO FINISH? OKAY.
I WILL CONNECT WITH MR. PROCO, MS. PROCO, PLEASE.
AND, UH, AND WE WILL BEGIN A COORDINATION, UH, INFORMATION GATHERING, UH, ON, ON, ON HOW THAT PLAN WOULD WORK OUT.
AND THEN WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION, MAYOR, JUST WHEN YOU, UH, WERE DOING PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING LIKE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS, LIKE AROUND ROBERT SMALL.
SO, UM, SINCE THEY WOULD BE CONTIGUOUS TO, IF ROBERT SMALLS BECAME CITY, UM, IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS UNLESS THEY WANTED IT TO.
IS IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? CAN YOU JUST YES, MA'AM.
EXPOUND ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
SO, UM, THE, THE WAY IT WORKS IS THE PROPERTY OWNER PETITIONS THE CITY.
UM, OUR STAFF GOES THROUGH A WHOLE CHECKLIST OF THINGS TO SAY THAT WE CAN OFFER SERVICES, THAT IT IS CONTIGUOUS, THAT IT'S WITHIN THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES.
AND SO WHEN THEY COME TO, TO CITY HALL WITH A PUBLIC HEARING, THEY GO THROUGH ALL THOSE LISTS OF CONDITIONS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE SERVICES.
UM, PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY IN THAT HEARING, AND THEN THOSE TWO SUBSEQUENT READINGS TO, TO BE HEARD.
UM, BUT WHEN THE CITY ANNEXES, NOTHING'S REALLY GONNA CHANGE FOR THOSE NEIGHBORS.
UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SEVERAL OF THE NEIGHBORS REACH OUT AND ASK FOR ANNEXATION.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I EXPLAINED IN PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, IS THAT WE DO HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO WOULD LIKE TO ANNEX IN, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT CONTINUITY, UM, THEY ARE UNABLE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO BY THE SCHOOL COMING IN, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS TO PETITION TO COME IN.
UH, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SAME, THAT SAME PUBLIC PROCESS.
UM, AND, AND IN DOING THIS, I, UM, AM CONCERNED THAT WE SHOULD ALSO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THIS IS A CHANGE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND ALSO, UH, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS AS WELL, IS THAT AT BAT CREEK HIGH SCHOOL, YOU HAVE A SHERIFF OFFICER, AND THEN RIGHT ABOUT, NOT EVEN THEN, FIVE MILES OR WITHIN A MILE, YOU WOULD HAVE A BIGGER CITY OFFICER.
AND THOSE OFFICERS WORK CONGRUENT WITH EACH OTHER.
SO I FEEL THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE NOW SEPARATING, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT YOU'RE BASICALLY, YOU'RE SEPARATING TWO OFFICERS WHO, WHO WOULD NORMALLY HAVE, WOULD HAVE A, HAVE EACH OTHER'S BACK AND, AND, AND WOULD COMMUNICATING THAT THEY COULD, THEY COULD, THEY WOULD NORMALLY GO TO EACH OTHER'S SCHOOL.
SOMETIMES THEY'LL LEAVE FIVE MINUTES AND JUST GO CHECK OUT THE KIDS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
NOW YOU'RE KIND, YOU'RE KIND OF CHANGING THAT RELATIONSHIP UP IN THAT, THE MAKEUP OF THAT.
AND SO I DO, UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, FROM BEING IN, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT, WITH CHANGING THE SR AND CHANGING OF THE SROS.
UH, AND THERE'S ALSO GETTING THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED, BECAUSE I WOULD, BEFORE I WOULD VOTE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, RIGHT? I WOULD WANNA THINK THAT WE WOULD WANNA SEE WITH THE CONSTITUENTS IN THAT, IN THAT AREA WILL THINK BECAUSE YEAH, TO US, THIS COULD BE ONE THING WHERE WE'RE JUST CHANGING, UH, SCHOOL OVER.
AND THAT'S, THAT NO, IT, IT, IT
IT COULD BE OTHER THINGS AS WELL.
AND ALSO, ONCE WE PUT THAT SCHOOL IN THAT AREA, THEN WE GIVE THAT AREA, UH, SOME TYPE OF AUTHORITY OVER THAT AREA, OVER THAT SCHOOL, AND SOME OF THE THINGS ADJACENT TO THAT SCHOOL AS WELL.
SO I THINK BIGGER THAN JUST US MAKING THAT DECISION.
SO I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE CONSTITUENTS ON THAT AREA WOULD THINK AS WELL MOVING FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS.
I WOULD DEFINITELY WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE.
MR. SMITH, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU.
UM, YOU KNOW, MY WORK AT THE CITY, WE'RE VERY TRANSPARENT.
WE LIKE TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
I ENJOYED THE CONVERSATION EARLIER ABOUT HOW YOU CAN ENGAGE A WIDER SWATH OF COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE CAN EVER DO ENOUGH TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, MRS. ROBOT.
UM, ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY, I THINK YOUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM DOES A REMARKABLE JOB.
UM, WHOEVER YOUR VIDEO GUY IS, YOU SHOULD GIVE HIM, GIVE HIM A RAISE.
AND THE PRESS RELEASES ARE, ARE VERY WELL DONE AND CONCISE.
UM, AND SO I, I SORT OF WEAR TWO HATS, RIGHT? I GET ALL OF THE DISTRICT'S COMMUNICATIONS, UH, AND I READ THOSE, AND THEN I GET SCHOOL COMMUNICATIONS AS A PARENT.
UM, SO I, I, I THINK I COULD MAKE A, YOU KNOW, AN INFORMED, UH, OPINION BOTH WAYS.
WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER, BUT ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC, UH, DISCUSSION THAT YOU'VE HAD ABOUT THE ISSUE.
UM, IF YOU DECIDED TO BRING IT FORWARD, AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THE TERMS, THERE WOULD BE A THIRD, UH, PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO COME INTO THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, TO LET THEIR OPINION BE HEARD.
AND THEN FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, THERE WOULD ALSO BE THREE, ACTUALLY BE FOUR, BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO TO OUR METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.
SO THERE WOULD BE FOUR PUBLIC STOPS AT THE CITY, UH, FOR FOLKS TO COME IN AND, AND TALK ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS AND OBJECTIONS.
SO THERE'D BE SEVEN PUBLIC OPPORTUNITIES, UM, BEFORE THE SCHOOL WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO ANNEX IN.
I'LL ALSO SAY THAT, UM, OUR CHIEF AND THE SHERIFF, UH, GET ALONG EXTRAORDINARILY WELL.
UM, AND WHEN IT COMES TO FIRST LINE, FIRST
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RESPONDERS, UM, WE DON'T GET INTO TURF BATTLES, RIGHT? IF FOLKS NEED ASSISTANCE OR FOLKS NEED HELP, WHETHER IT'S A FIRE DEPARTMENT OR LAW ENFORCEMENT, THOSE GUYS, THOSE FOLKS LOOK OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER.UM, AND I DON'T EXPECT THERE WOULD BE ANY ISSUES WITH FOLKS NOT LOOKING OUT FOR, FOR EACH OTHER, COVERING FOLKS BACK.
BUT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT TO BRING THE CONCERN UP.
AND I UNDERSTAND, AND, AND NO, TO RESPECT, IT'S JUST AMONG, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE, Y'ALL WILL HAVE THOSE HEARINGS AS IN THIS BODY AND THIS BOARD MAKING THAT DECISION.
THINK WE, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS BEFORE WE WE VOTE ON IT.
BUT YEAH, I UNDERSTAND YOU SAYING THERE ARE OTHER BENCHES WHERE THEY WERE HERE, BUT IN THIS BODY AT THIS, AT THIS JUNCTION FROM HERE, FROM THIS DESK, I'D LIKE TO HEAR PEOPLE.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THE NEXT IS A DISCUSSION REGARDING EXECUTIVE SESSION FOLDERS.
AND I'LL, I'LL JUST TEE THIS UP.
AND IT'S, UM, WE, WE GO OVER MATERIAL AND EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE COME OUT AND WE VOTE ON THINGS.
AND THE QUESTION IS, UH, ONCE WE HAVE TAKEN A PUBLIC VOTE, WHAT IS, UH, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE OUT OF THOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOLDERS? UM, SO WE JUST WANNA GET SOME, SOME CLARITY ON THAT.
I BELIEVE MR. SMITH, THAT IS THE ISSUE.
THAT, YES, THAT IS, THAT IS, UM, SINCE YOU TEED IT UP, YES.
THAT IS, UH, SOME OF THE ISSUE.
BUT, UH, ALSO, UH, THE, THE ISSUE.
WE START WITH THE HERE, THAT'S FINE.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE HAD ON THE AGENDA.
UM, CAN, CAN WE GET SOME CLARITY ON EXACTLY WHAT, CAUSE I WILL POINT OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE THINGS THAT WE GO OVER HERE ARE ALL AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ONCE, ONCE WE'RE OUT HERE IN PUBLIC SESSIONS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE STATISTICS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN GET OUT THERE AND, AND VIEW 'EM, UH, ON BOARD DOCS.
SO, WHEN MR. OTING BRINGS CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AMENDMENTS TO THE BOARD, AS SOON AS YOU APPROVE THEM, THOSE ARE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS.
HE OFTEN HAS AMENDMENTS TO MUCH OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE WITH THE REFERENDUM PROJECTS.
SO THOSE ARE PUBLIC INFORMATION IF ANYBODY WANTS THOSE.
UM, WHEN WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND NEGOTIATING, IT BECOMES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AFTER THE BOARD APPROVES IT AND IT'S SIGNED, IT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
OUR PERSONAL RATIFICATION REPORTS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AFTER Y'ALL APPROVE IT.
WITH THE EXCEPTION, IF THERE IS A EDUCATOR WHO'S BEEN RECOMMENDED FOR TERMINATION AND THEY REQUEST A HEARING, THEN, THEN INFORMATION'S NOT PUBLIC UNTIL AFTER THE HEARING.
ALTHOUGH THE EDUCATOR DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY, IF HE WANTS OR SHE WANTS TO, THEY CAN ASK TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S UP TO THE PARTICULAR EDUCATOR.
UM, THINGS THAT AREN'T AVAILABLE BY LAWS, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT SECURITY DEVICES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO UNDER FERPA.
WE DON'T GIVE OUT STUDENT INFORMATION, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE ADULT AD, WE HAVE STUDENT INFORMATION IN THERE AND NAMES AND WE DON'T, THAT'S PRIVATE.
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY.
UM, I WOULD ASK A QUESTION, UM, BECAUSE WE DO POST THIS STUFF INFORMATION OUT, OUT ON OUR WEBSITE, DO WE NOT? UH, I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT IS TO BE PUBLIC.
THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S POSTED CUZ WE'VE BEEN REDOING THE WEB, TALKING ABOUT THE ITEMS ON BOARD DOCS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? UM, JUST AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC.
I'M JUST ASKING WHEN IS THE INFORMATION THAT IS NOT EXECUTIVE, YOU KNOW, PROTECTED EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WHEN IS THAT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC? AM MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S, IT'S RATHER QUICKLY AND I JUST WANTED TO ESTABLISH THAT.
SO SHE'S SAYING THAT IT'S AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS IT AFTER, UM, THE BOARD HAS APPROVED IT OR TAKEN ACTION, UH, APPROVING.
HOW WOULD THEY ACCESS IT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON BOARDS IS SO, AND LIKE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE HR REPORT, WE PUT THAT OUT, WE REDACT SOME THINGS AND THEN WE MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO ESTABLISH FOR THE RIGHT, FOR THE PUBLIC, WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THIS INFORMATION, THE, WHEN THERE'S A CONTRACT WITH PROCUREMENT AFTER THE PROTEST PERIOD AT THE CONTRACT SIGNED, I KNOW THAT KAYLEE POSTS ALL THE CONTRACTS UP ON UNDER FINANCE, THAT TYPE OF THING IS DONE.
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YEAH, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE GETTING AT.BUT MY POINT, AS A BOARD MEMBER UNDERSTANDING THAT AND BEEN ELECTED TO THAT POSITION, SHE BASICALLY SAID POSSIBLY MAJORITY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE POSSIBLY IN, IN THAT, IN THAT, IN THAT FOLDER, ONCE IT'S BEEN VOTED ON, ONE OR TWO, MAY, UH, MAY BASICALLY NOT BE PUBLIC INFORMA OR WILL NOT BE PUBLIC INFORMATION.
SO I REMEMBER JUST HAVING, TALKING ABOUT JUST HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO ABOUT THE RIFF F ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSION INFORMATION AND ONCE HAS VOTED ON.
AND MY, MY MY POINT TO THAT IS THAT WHAT SHE JUST ANSWERED, THE STUFF THAT I AND OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAS BEEN, BOARD MEMBERS HAVE A COUPLE OF IT'S BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS AND FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, TO FOR LESS THAN WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WHAT SHE BROUGHT UP TO HAVE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, JUST CHASE 'EM OUT THE DOOR FOR THAT FULL FOLDER.
I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT INFORMATION AS BOARD MEMBERS IS, IS NO, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH BOARD MEMBERS HAVING, HAVING THAT READY.
IF, IF, AND THAT INFORMATION HAS NOT BEEN PUT ON, BEEN PUT UP.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN TONIGHT, THE INFORMATION THAT WE, THAT, THAT WE VOTED ON, CAN SOMEONE GO TO THE SCREEN AND SHOW AND SHOW US THAT, THAT IT'S READILY AVAILABLE OR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT IT? I MEAN, IF WE, WE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THE INFORMATION, ONCE WE APPROVE IT, IT GOES UP IMMEDIATELY THEN IS IT UP? IS IT UP NOW? I MEAN, I MEAN CUZ BECAUSE THAT, THAT IS, WHEN WE SAY IMMEDIATELY, THEN THAT'S IMMEDIATELY.
OR WE'RE GONNA SAY MAYBE ONE OR TWO DAYS, THEN LET'S BE FRANK AND SAY ONE OR TWO DAYS OR THE NEXT DAY.
BUT LET'S NOT INSULT INTELLIGENCE AND TRY TO DIMINISH WHAT THE POINT OF THIS WAS BEING BOUGHT OUT.
IS, IS IS WHY THE QUESTION WAS ASKED.
I MEAN, I MEAN, I JUST WANNA BE FRANK BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A, THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSION INFORMATION AND SOME OF THIS INFORMATION IS PUBLIC.
AND AS A BOARD MEMBER, IF I, IF I WANT TO HAVE IT AS MY EXPENSE, REMEMBER WHO WAS ON, ON, ON WHAT LIST, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT AND NOT HAVE TO JUST KIND HAVE TO COME IN AND LOOK AT IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO GO TO PEOPLE TO, TO DO THAT.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY POINT.
I MEAN, AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE, IT'S ON THE SAME, ON THE SAME PAGE.
CAUSE BECAUSE FROM WHAT SHE SAID WAS MY INTERPRETATION, BUT I JUST WANNA GET, WANNA GET IT CLEAR AND CLEAR UNDERSTANDING WHAT SHE BASICALLY SAID THAT TONIGHT.
SO HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME UP WITH A WAY A, A A FORMAT NOW OF HOW WE WILL, WHAT WE WILL DO WITH THIS INFORMATION ONCE IT'S BOARDED UPON FOR BOARD MEMBERS.
SO I DON'T KNOW MR. STINGER, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT BECOMES PUBLIC AT THE END OF THE BOARD MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE BOARD WISHES TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO PUBLISH IMMEDIATELY WHAT HAS BEEN MADE PUBLIC.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WITH MR. OTING WHEN WE DISCUSS AN AMENDMENT TO CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT THOSE MATERIALS POSTED AFTER THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL, WHAT YOUR DIRECTIVE IS.
SO I, I DON'T POST THINGS, BUT I DON'T WHATEVER.
THE BOARD WILL HAVE TO DECIDE HOW THEY WANNA DIRECT THAT.
YEAH, I THINK WE JUST WANNA BE LEGAL AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TO DO THAT.
WELL WHAT'S A CONTRACT SIGNED? IT IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.
ONCE THE CONTRACT SIGNED IS, YOU KNOW, MISS KAYLEY YER POST THOSE ON THE FINANCE WEBSITE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE POSTED UP THERE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW YOU WANT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT THINGS POSTED LIKE ON A BOARD WEBSITE OR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, LIKE IN OUR BOARD DOCS, WE HAVE ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE.
EVERYTHING WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, IT'S OUT THERE.
IT'S ON THE INTERNET, IT'S FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN PUBLIC SESSION.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL WANNA PROCEED MOVING FORWARD AFTER YOU APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO A CONTRACT.
DO YOU, IS THAT SOMETHING THE BOARD WANTS TO HAVE POSTED ON ITS WEBSITE IN A BOARD DOCS KIND OF THING? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO DO.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
SO YOUR QUESTION, AFTER WE APPROVE AN AMENDMENT MM-HMM.
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THAT FOLDER, THEY DON'T, ARE NOT PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SIGNED.UM, MY OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, PRIOR TO EXECUTIVE SESSION MM-HMM.
WE DIDN'T HAVE WHEN MOST, WHEN THE MAJORITY OF US FIRST CAME ON THE BOARD TO LOOK AT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION MATERIALS PRIOR TO GETTING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UM, AND THERE WERE CONSTRAINTS PUT ON THAT, THAT WE COULDN'T TAKE THEM OUT OF THE BUILDING THAT SECURITY THINGS BASICALLY BECAUSE THEIR EXECUTIVE SESSION DOCUMENTS.
SO PRIOR TO, UM, UH, BEFORE WE NEVER GOT THOSE DOCUMENTS UNTIL WE WALKED INTO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.
SO WE DIDN'T, THAT WASN'T A CONCERN, BUT WE DECIDED AS A BOARD TO GET THEM EARLIER SO WE WOULD HAVE MORE TIME TO DIGEST THEM AND REVIEW THEM.
BUT THERE WERE SOME BOUNDARIES PUT IN THAT THEY HAD TO STAY IN THE ROOM WITH THEM OR THAT TYPE OF THING.
UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND IF ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HERE TELL ME THAT'S WRONG, THEN LET'S CORRECT IT BECAUSE THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
UM, SO I KNOW, UH, WHAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE APPROVE OUR, UM, MEETING MINUTES FOR THAT PARTICULAR, UH, MEETING MM-HMM.
SHE PUTS THE LINK OF, SO PEOPLE LOOK AT THE MEETING MINUTES ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED AND SIGNED.
THAT LINK IS RIGHT, THE LINK TO THE, TO THE PERSONNEL RATIFICATION REPORTS THAT IS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH HAS TO BE REDACTED IS WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY HERE TONIGHT IS RIGHT THERE.
AND THE SAME THING COULD HAPPEN WITH THE OTHER DOCUMENTS.
THERE COULD JUST BE A LINK TO ONCE THAT, UM, CONTRACT FOR, LET'S SAY THE CONSTRUCTION AMENDMENT HAS THE SIGNATURES AND IS POSTED UNDER FINANCE, THERE COULD BE A LINK ON THE APPROVED BOARD MEETING MINUTES.
SO THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE AN EASY WAY TO, OKAY, THIS IS THE MEETING I WENT TO.
I HEARD ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD VOTED AND PROVE THIS CONSTRUCTION AMENDMENT AND THEY'LL GET A, A LINK WHERE THEY CAN GO SEE THAT AMENDMENT, THAT ACTUAL CONTRACT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO.
BUT IT CAN'T BE INSTANT LIKE WAS ALREADY BROUGHT OUT BECAUSE THERE HAVE TO BE THE SIGNATURES, UM, OBTAINED BEFORE IT CAN BE, UH, UH, POSTED.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE EASY WAY TO DO THAT.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST HAVE THE LINKS, UM, CONNECTING THE INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, AND JUST MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE PARTICULARLY IN INTERESTED IN.
I, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE THING FOR ME IS IT'S SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO GET HERE EARLY TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS.
AND WHEN WE GET SOMETIMES LIKE EIGHT AMENDMENTS, I MEAN, WE CAN EITHER ESTABLISH A THING THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA CURSOR, CURSOR CURLY
I KNOW A CURSORY REVIEW ANYWAYS.
UM, AT THEM AND JUST SORT OF APPROVE THEM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO COME IN AND LOOK 'EM OVER.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK IT'S HARD, ESPECIALLY AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS AND DOES AND LIVES AN HOUR AWAY.
I'D LIKE TO JUST THROW IT OUT HERE.
THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF APPS AND PROGRAMS THAT WILL ALLOW SECURE AND AUDITED VIEWING THAT WE COULD HAVE THESE DOCUMENTS THE DAY BEFORE WHOEVER OPENS THEM.
IT WOULD RECORD THAT WE CAN WATERMARK THEM WITH DIGITAL WATERMARKS.
LIKE THIS THING THAT WE HAVE TO BE PHYSICALLY ON PREMISE IS STRESSFUL FOR ME.
AND THERE'S OTHER SOLUTIONS, TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS.
I I THINK YOU HAVE THE POINT THERE.
AND THE WAY I SEE THIS, THIS IS, THIS HAS DEFINITELY EVOLVED AS MS. ROBLINE FIRST MENTIONED WHEN MOST OF US CAME ON THE BOARD, SIX OF US AT ONE TIME, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
IT WAS RIGHT THERE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THAT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU SAW IT.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A CONCERN.
UM, NOW IT HAS EVOLVED WHERE WE COME IN A LITTLE BIT EARLIER AND WE CAN HAVE IT.
AND SO MS. ROB, TO YOUR QUESTION, UM, IT HAS BEEN OUR PRACTICE AND ABSOLUTELY MY, UM, THOUGHT PROCESS THAT YES, THE FOLDERS DO HAVE TO STAY WITHIN A CONFINED SPACE BECAUSE IT IS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION UNTIL SUCH TIME IT IS NOT.
UM, SO YES, THAT HAS BEEN OUR PRACTICE AND THAT HAS BEEN, UM, WHAT, WHAT MOST WE, WE HAVE ADHERED TO IS THAT THOSE FOLDERS ARE VIEWED PRIOR IN A CONFINED SPACE.
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WILL POINT OUT TO EVERYONE THAT WE, THE BOARD HAS LIABILITY, UM, FOR NOT HAVING CERTAIN THINGS, UM, LEAK OUT, SO TO SPEAK, OF EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE THEIR TIME.SO WE HAVE TO, WE, WE ARE VERY, VERY SERIOUS ABOUT PROTECTING THE CONFIDENTIALITY.
UM, SOMETIMES THINGS HAVE GOTTEN OUT INTO THE PUBLIC, WHICH SHOULDN'T HAVE.
AND SO WE'RE HIGHLY SENSITIVE TO THAT CUZ WE DO HAVE LIABILITY.
WE CAN BE SUED IF WE, IF WE PUT OUT CONTRACT INFORMATION PREMATURELY.
SO, SO THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO, TO FOCUS ON.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS MAYBE GETTING BACK TO THE POINT OF THIS, UH, COULD JUST GET A LIST OF THINGS.
THIS ARE THE THINGS WE GO OVER AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THIS IS WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THE BOARD SHOULD BE HAPPY TO BE PART OF THE PUBLIC AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE IT WHEN THE PUBLIC SEES IT, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
UM, IF WE COULD JUST GET A LIST, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP, UH, AT LEAST THAT HELP US FOCUS ON THINGS.
AND THAT IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LIST, WE CAN TALK ABOUT REAL SPECIFICS.
MS. ETT? NO, BUT THEN YOU SAID THAT AND I FORGOT WHAT I, I, I FORGOT WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
UM, I, I HAD TO SAY THIS, BUT NO, I DON'T HATE TO SAY IT.
WE ELECTED BY OUR CONSTITUENTS AND I DON'T MAKE NO EXCUSES SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD.
IF I NEED TO GET SOME INFORMATION, I WILL CALL ROBIN OR MARLEY MM-HMM.
AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES BECAUSE BOARD MEMBERS WAS GIVEN OUT INFORMATION BEFORE THE REST OF THE BOARD KNEW ABOUT IT.
AND THAT WAS A REASON YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A BOARD MEMBER, IF THE DOCUMENTS ARE HERE, YOU COME HERE AND LOOK AT SIMPLE AS THAT YOU WAS ELECTED.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A BOARD MEMBER.
NOW I REALIZE YOU HAVE A JOB, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AS A BOARD MEMBER TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF US, I DON'T HAVE A JOB, YOU KNOW, BUT IF I DID HAVE A JOB, I WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO GET, FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON, COME TO THE DISTRICT AND GET THE INFORMATION.
AND ONCE WE GOT THE INFORMATION, THEN YOU GO FROM THERE.
NOW, AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC, IF THEY WANNA FIND OUT SOMETHING ABOUT A, A, A A THING THAT WE VOTE ON, THEN THEY CAN REQUEST FROM THE DISTRICT.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS STUFF YOU CANNOT PUT ON THE INTERNET PERIOD.
AND I THINK A LOT, MOST OF US HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW HOW THIS, HOW, HOW THE OPERATION OF THIS GOES, HOW IT GOES.
AND IF YOU DON'T, THEN I'M GONNA SAY THIS, YOU DON'T NEED TO BEGIN.
YES, MS. BULLRIGHT, I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE WAY THAT THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE.
MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR DEALS, WHICH ARE UNDER S E C USE THESE PROGRAMS. THE FACT THAT WE ARE STILL USING PAPER IN 2022 DOES NOT SPEAK WELL FOR US.
I DON'T THINK WE PUT THESE DOCUMENTS ON THE INTERNET.
I THINK WE PUT THEM IN A SECURED DOCUMENT VAULT, WHICH IS WHAT MOST BOARDS DO.
MOST BOARDS ARE NOT COMING IN 45 MINUTES IN ADVANCE AND FURIOUSLY GOING THROUGH MILLION DOLLAR AMENDMENTS MOST BOARDS BECAUSE THERE'S WHATEVER, WHATEVER REASON, HOWEVER, THIS BOARD'S BEEN RUN IN THE PAST.
AND I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO PHYSICALLY BE ON PREMISE WITH A PAPER DOCUMENT SITTING HERE IN ORDER TO FULFILL OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO THROW OUT, MAYBE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT LOOK AT IT.
WE, WHEN YOU HAVE A, A DOCUMENT ON ONE OF THESE SECURE VAULTS, I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IT CREATES AN AUDIT EVERY TIME THAT DOCUMENT IS LOOKED AT, IT'S RECORDED, IT'S WATERMARKED, IT'S SECURE, YOU HAVE A PASSWORD.
THIS IS NOT ME SAYING LET'S THROW THE DOCUMENTS OUT ON THE INTERNET SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO TAKE TIME OFF OF WORK TO DO MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A BOARD MEMBER.
I'M SAYING LET'S DO WORK SMARTER.
LET'S DO THIS IN A WAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETIMES.
I MEAN, HERE WE ONLY HAD LIKE FOUR SHEETS OF PAPER, THAT WAS NO PROBLEM.
BUT I HAVE COME IN WHEN WE'VE HAD EXECUTIVE SESSIONS THIS THICK AND PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND THEY'RE, YOU'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH THIS STUFF AND I CAN EITHER SAY, WELL, LOOK, I'VE GOT AN HOUR AND I CAN SORT THROUGH ALL THESE DOCUMENTS AND GIVE MY BEST GUESS WHEN I'M APPROVING THESE THINGS.
BUT I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T HAVE THEM EARLIER.
I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION TO THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST INVESTIGATE SOME OF THESE, THESE, UH, PLANS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MOST OF THE WORLD WORKS NOW.
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OKAY.I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT'S THE TOPIC WE'RE DISCUSSING, BUT THAT'S A, AN AGENDA TOPIC FOR, FOR THE FUTURE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP US FOCUSED.
THAT'S A THAT IS PROBABLY A FUTURE AGENDA TOPIC WE COULD, WE COULD DEAL WITH, UM, TO TRY TO COME INTO THE 21ST CENTURY.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS.
UM, CAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL ISSUES ABOUT THAT, RIGHT? THERE'S, THERE'S THE TIMELINESS OF GETTING THE AMENDMENTS WHEN WE'VE BEEN OVER THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET ENOUGH TIME, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF THE TECHNOLOGY, BRINGING THE AMENDMENT UP AND SAYING IT HAS TO PASS WITHIN THREE DAYS, IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM WE SHOULD DEAL WITH IN ENTIRETY.
JUST TO, JUST TO EVEN GO BACK TO THE, UM, TO THE AMENDMENT ISSUE.
UH, AS A BOARD MEMBER, WE MAY HAVE EIGHT AMENDMENTS, WE CHANGE AND ONE DAY WE GO BACK OVER.
NOW IF I HAVE THOSE AMENDMENTS AND MY FILE AND WE'RE THOSE OLD MEMBERS THAT ARE PUBLIC INFORMATION DOCUMENTS, THEN IF I HAVE THEM, THEN IT'S EASIER TO GO BACK IN, IN, IN A, IN A, AND AND WHEREVER I HAVE 'EM AS SECURED THAT AT MY HOUSE.
ONCE, ONCE, ONCE THEY'RE, THERE ARE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I WILL HAVE THEM TO SAY, HEY LOOK, UM, I WENT BACK OVER THIS AMENDMENT.
I DIDN'T SEE THIS, SIR, OR, OR THIS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND THIS AMENDMENT IS.
BUT TO HAVE TO WAIT AND HAVE TO ASK ONCE THEY, ONCE A NEW AMENDMENT IS, IS BROUGHT TO YOU, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OLD AMENDMENT TO, TO COMPARE IT TO.
SO IT'S EASIER IF YOU HAVE IT TO, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO, SO THERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS AS WELL JUST, JUST, JUST TO SPEAK TO THAT ONE RIGHT THERE OF WHY ONCE IT'S PUBLIC, IT, IT, IT IS NO HARM.
AND IF IT, IF IT'S A, A PUBLIC DOCUMENT FOR, FOR YOU TO HAVE AS A BOARD MEMBER FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO READ IT OR SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET ME, LET ME READ, LET ME READ BACK OVER CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GOING BACK OVER THIS.
OR, OR SOME, SOME CHANGES HAS BEEN MADE.
THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE WERE, THEY WERE NOT THE, THEY WERE NOWHERE CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS CHANGES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY BOUGHT.
SO ALL, SO ALL, ALL THAT BRINGS TRUTH TO THIS PROCESS.
IN TURN OF THAT, I JUST, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT THERE.
BUT, UM, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, MRS. BO, MAYBE THE TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
UM, I WILL POINT OUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE, UH, OPTION TO ABSTAIN.
IF YOU DON'T FEEL THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION AND ENOUGH BOARD MEMBERS ABSTAIN, IT DOESN'T PASS.
IT'S KIND OF THE CHECK AND BALANCE WE HAVE.
VERIFY THE LIST OF WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF LIST.
SO, UH, WERE YOU NOT LISTENING? NO, NO.
YOU, YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA BRING A, I'LL MAKE, MAKE A LIST.
WHEN YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA BRING A LIST, I'M ASKING WHAT TYPE OF LIST, BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A LIST.
OR ARE YOU ADDING SOMETHING TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION PROCESS? THAT, THAT'S BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA WALK IN THERE AND THEN THERE'S SOMETHING CHANGE OR THERE'S A, THERE'S A LIST.
NOW I WANT, I WANNA KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M WALKING INTO.
WHAT'S THE PROCESS WHEN YOU ADD THE LIST FROM, FROM WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW TO WHAT WE'RE CURRENT TO WHAT WE WILL BE CURRENTLY DOING? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS.
UH, MR. SMITH, YOU'RE NOT WALKING INTO ANYTHING.
I ASKED FOR A LIST OF CL TO CLARIFY WHAT IS AND IS NOT PUBLIC INFORMATION AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.
A PRETTY CLEAR, I THOUGHT I MADE THAT CLEAR WHEN I SPOKE AND I WASN'T ACCEPTING YOUR INTELLIGENCE.
I WAS JUST POINT OUT YOUR MISUNDERSTANDING SIDE, COMMENT YOU TO MR. YOU KNOW, NO ONE ELSE DOES THAT.
WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER, SO, YOU KNOW.
WE PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA SEPTEMBER 20, 20, 22.
UM, YEAH, I ASKED THEM TO PULLED OFF BECAUSE I READ THROUGH THEM AND THEY WERE, UM, EXCELLENT AS ALWAYS.
BUT I HAD ONE THING THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU A LITTLE FUNNY STORY TO KIND OF BREAK THE TENSION.
SO MY DAUGHTER'S TEACHING IN JAPAN, SHE'S TEACHING ENGLISH.
UM, AND IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, INTERESTING BECAUSE SHE HAS TO REPORT TO
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THE BOARD OF EDUCATION THEREUM, AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT HABITS THAT THEY HAVE IN JAPAN IS THAT ACTUALLY THEY DON'T HIRE CUSTODIANS.
THE STUDENTS CLEAN THE SCHOOL AT THE END OF THE DAY OF, WHICH I DON'T THINK WOULD FLY HERE, BUT SHE WAS TALKING TO THEM, UM, ON ENGLISH, AND THEY FINALLY, THEY'RE A VERY FORMAL, VERY POLITE, VERY RESPECTFUL SOCIETY.
AND SHE, THEY ASKED, WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS? THE AIR QUOTES? AND SHE SAID, WELL, CUZ I'M A SARCASTIC PERSON.
WELL, SHE DIDN'T KNOW THE JAPANESE WORD FOR SARCASM.
SO SHE GOOGLE TRANSLATES, IT POPS UP.
AND SHE SAID, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT.
SHE SAID, I'M A VERY IN JAPANESE.
AND THEY VISIBLY GASED AND JUMPED BACK BECAUSE APPARENTLY SARCASM IN THIS CULTURE IS SO OFFENSIVE THAT IT'S WORSE THAN, YOU KNOW, UH, ANY KIND OF BAD WORD THAT WE COULD SAY IN, IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO WHAT I NOTICED ON THESE MINUTES IS THERE WERE A COUPLE PLACES WHERE WE PUT WORDS IN QUOTES ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND I AM NOT MAKING A POLITICAL COMMENT.
I'M NOT TAKING ASIDE, I JUST FELT REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN, UM, I, I, I SHOULD HAVE SHUT MY COMPUTER.
BUT THEY SAID THAT ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS CALLED IN BECAUSE HER HUSBAND FELT LIKE HE WAS A TROUBLEMAKER.
AND THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMENT WHERE SOMEONE CALLED IN AND SAID THAT THEY SPOKE ABOUT WOKE CURRICULUM.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT ROBERT'S RULES IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THEY ACTUALLY DON'T RECOMMEND RECORDING PUBLIC COMMENTS.
BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU JUST PUT THE PERSON'S NAME AND AT THE MOST, JUST LIKE ONE WORD ABOUT WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT, ONE THING.
SO WHAT BOTHERS ME IS I, I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS HEADING IN OUR WAY OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
I THINK PEOPLE, UM, HAVE A LOT THAT THEY WANT TO SAY TO US.
AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO RECORD THAT WITHOUT PUTTING THINGS IN QUOTATIONS, BECAUSE THEN I FEEL LIKE WHEN I'M APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES, I'M APPROVING A PARTICULAR TAKE ON AN ISSUE.
SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP THAT I WOULD VOTE NO ON THESE MINUTES WITH THE QUOTATION MARKS.
AND I THINK THAT'S A BAD POLICY GOING FORWARD.
UM, DO WE WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO ELIMINATE THIS FROM THE, TO ELIMINATE QUOTE MARKS FROM YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY.
I THINK WE COULD JUST HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO SPOKE PUBLIC COMMENTS WITHOUT NECESSARILY, BUT IT'S, IT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'RE GOING NEXT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION IF YOU THINK THAT WOULD, I I THINK THAT WOULD ADD CLAIRE, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION.
UM, SO I'LL I MOVE TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.
DO NOT INCLUDE DESCRIPTION OF PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT ONLY THE NAMES OF THOSE WHO SPEAK MR. SMITH.
KATHY, ROB SECONDS ONLY, ONLY THE NAMES SAY YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT PEOPLE SAY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE SAY IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
MA'AM, MA'AM, YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD, PLEASE.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING MINUTES ONLY LIST THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK AND NOT THE TOPICS ON WHICH THEY SPEAK.
IT'S GOING TO GET TOO POLITICAL.
UH, I'M HESITANT TO SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IF I'M LOOKING, IF I'M LOOKING UP A BOARD MEETING AND IF I'M LOOKING UP SOMETHING THAT DOG CAT SPOKE ABOUT AND I WANT TO HEAR THE INFORMATION OF IT OR POLITICAL, THE VALIDITY OF IT, THEN NOW I, I CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO LOOK UP EVERY MEETING THAT DOG CAT SPOKE AT, BUT I CAN JUST LOOK UP WITHIN THE, PER WITHIN THE DATE.
AND REALLY, I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY EDITED HOW WE'VE DONE THIS ONE TIME.
SO THIS IS THIS, I THINK THIS IS SHOULD REALLY BE TABLE TO A WORSE SESSION BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A, A MOVEMENT OF, OF, OF ACTING MY SPECTRUM OF EMOTIONS.
I THINK THERE'S MORE INTO THIS THAT WE NEED TO, TO DIGEST.
UM, SO I, I REALLY CAN'T EVEN, I, I DEFINITELY CAN'T SUPPORT IT AND I'M REALLY WOULD PREFER TO EVEN TO TABLE THIS TO A, TO A WORK SESSION OR SOMETHING BECAUSE MAKING A, MAKING A A COMING IN AND MAKING A VOTE OFF OF THIS TONIGHT IS PROBABLY NOT WHAT I'M, WHAT WHAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF.
BECAUSE IT TAKES A LITTLE MORE, A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT AND TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BECAUSE IN TERMS OF THAT, LIKE I SAID, IF I WANNA SEE WHAT DOG CATCHER WAS TALKING ABOUT LAST MONTH, DOG CATCH COULD HAVE SPOKE AT TWO OR THREE MEETINGS.
SO NOW I HAVE TO GO TO TWO OR THREE MEETINGS AND SEE, BUT IF DOG KEER WAS SPEAKING ABOUT ACADEMICS, THEN I COULD SEE DOG CATCHER SPOKE ABOUT ACADEMICS THAT I COULD GO TO, I KNOW, GO TO THE AUGUST 1ST MEETING THEN.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S A LITTLE, I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE, CAN I RESPOND? SO WHAT I'LL SAY ABOUT THAT IS ROBERT'S RULES IS CLEAR THAT MINUTE MEETINGS ARE SEPARATE.
WE HAVE FULL TRANSCRIPTS OF ALL OF OUR MEETINGS AS WELL AS RECORDINGS POSTED ON DOS COUNTY CHANNEL AND YOUTUBE.
SO THERE'S NO DIFFICULTY IN FINDING OUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING.
WHAT WORRIES ME ABOUT PUTTING THE TOPIC AND PUTTING QUOTATION MARKS AROUND IT OR PUTTING DESCRIPTORS IN IT, IS THAT PEOPLE CAN BE INTERPRETED, PEOPLE
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CAN INTERPRET THE TOPIC DIFFERENTLY.SO ROBERT'S RULE SAYS WHAT IS DONE AND NOT WHAT IS SAID, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ACTION FOCUSED.
SO WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE IN THERE IS WHO SPOKE, BUT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS SAID OR HAVE ANY DISCUSSION.
WELL, IF YOU, IF THEY FEEL THAT THAT PASSIONATE ABOUT IT, THEN DON'T SPEAK, BE BE BECAUSE THE, THE FACT THAT IT'S, IT IS ALMOST YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THESE JOBS OR LOOKING UP AT DIFFERENT THINGS AND, AND, AND I MAY GOOGLE YOUR NAME AND SOMETHING MAY COME UP AND YOU MAY SPOKE ABOUT THE CT OF GOD FORBID, THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT NOT WANT YOUR BOSS TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.
THAT THAT'S MORE ALONG THOSE LINES WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THINGS, YOU SPEAK ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE PASSION OR OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT BRING THAT CAME TO YOUR ATTENTION.
SO I FEEL THAT THAT'S REALLY TAKING ETTE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT, THAT WE TABLE THIS CONVERSATION POSSIBLE.
THAT TABLE THIS A WORK SESSION.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK TONIGHT'S JUST THE, THE TIME TO I, I THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE DIGESTED.
SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE, IF I CAN GET A SECOND, HE SECOND.
SECONDS, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I, I WILL POINT OUT THAT OUR MEETINGS ARE RECORDED AND THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE RECORDED AND YOU CAN, AND TRANSCRIPT AND YOU CAN GET THEM IN THEIR ACTUAL FORM INSTEAD OF US INTERPRETING THEM THROUGH THE MINUTES.
THIS PROGRAM, UM, I PERSONALLY TAKE NOTES SO I KNOW WHAT EVERY PERSON SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT TOPIC THEY ADDRESSED AT AT PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, AND IF I NEEDED TO GO BACK, I COULD LOOK AT THAT.
BUT REALLY WHAT'S MOST ACCURATE IS THAT THE WATCHING THE VIDEO TO GO BACK AND, AND, AND RE UM, RE-LISTEN.
I DO THINK THAT, UM, IT'S, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME JUST TO LIST THE PERSON'S NAMES TO BE, UH, IN CONCERT WITH ROBERT'S RULES.
AND, AND JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT, I I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.
I MEAN, ROB, ROBERT RULES ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE NO, NO DIFFERENT FROM AS SOMETIMES WE'VE, WE'VE THE BOARD OF SAID IN, IN THE PAST THAT WE HAVE BOARD RULES OR WE HAVE BOARD, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE BOARD RULES THAT, BUT THOSE BOARD RULES ARE NOT, ARE NOT STATE LAWS.
SO I MEAN BASICALLY, BUT YET THE EXACT WORD IS WE HAVE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE OUR BOARD RULES THAT ARE GUIDELINES.
SO THE ROBERT RULES ARE GUIDELINES AND, AND, AND, AND THAT IS JUST LIKE A GHANA THAT WE CAN, WE CAN KEEP OR, OR WE CAN REMOVE.
BUT I, I KIND OF FEEL THAT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN I I I GET YOUR POINT ABOUT GOING BACK AND HEARING AND HEARING THE AUDIO.
BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE MEETING AND YOU'RE NOT ONE OF US WHO WAS SITTING UP HERE WHO WROTE DOWN WHAT DOG AND CAT SAID, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO AND WATCH EVERY VIDEO TO FIND THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT DOG AND CAT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT OR DOG AND CAT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SPORTS.
BUT IF, IF IT IS THERE ENTITLED SPORTS, THEN, YOU KNOW, DOG AND CAT TALK ABOUT SPORTS ON THE 21ST.
SO, SO THAT DOESN'T CHANGE MY POINT.
THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT OF ME NOT, NOT DEFINITELY NOT SUPPORTING THAT.
CAN WE PUT THAT THE TABLE AT THE TABLE? I THOUGHT IT WAS A POSTPONED TO WORK.
WELL, TABLING IS INAPPROPRIATE.
TABLING MEANS THAT YOU'RE GONNA DEAL WITH IT.
YOU PUT AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY THAT POSTPONING IS CORRECT.
YOU WANTED TO POSTPONE TO A WORK SESSION.
OKAY, LET'S PUT THAT MOTION UP AND VOTE ON IT POST ONTO A WORK SESSION.
THAT'S JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR A MEETING WHERE THE PUBLIC MADE COMMENTS, AT LEAST AT THE TOPIC ON WHAT THE PERSON SPOKE ON.
IT COULD BE ONE WORD, TWO WORD, BUT DOESN'T HAVE TO GET TO THE FINER DETAIL OF, BUT I GOOGLE BELIEVE THAT IT HAS.
BUT WHICH ONE OR TWO, THREE WORDS THE MOTION WE NEED TO DO IS POSTPONING THIS DISCUSSION UNTIL THE WORK SESSION.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, MR. CAMPBELL MIDDLETON, WILLIAM, EARL CAMPBELL MIDDLETON, I, YES
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SIR.NOW WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL MOTION UP.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE NAME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTER.
THE NAMES OF JUST THANK YOU CHAIRMAN STINGER.
UM, I SEE AN IS I THINK I WILL SUPPORT THIS.
AND THE REASON I'M SUPPORTING IS NOT TO, UM, KEEP INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC, BUT THE SUMMARY OF WHAT SOMEBODY SAYS IS NOT ALWAYS, UH, ACCURATE.
AND, AND PART OF THAT IS NOT BECAUSE WHO PREPARING THE SUMMARY IS NOT DOING IT PROPERLY.
A LOT OF TIMES THE PUBLIC COMMENTER WILL SPEAK ABOUT MULTIPLE TOPICS, NOT JUST A SINGLE TOPIC, NOT JUST A TOPIC THEY PUT ON THEIR CARD AND THE OTHER.
UM, SO I LIKE
BUT, UM, I THINK TO, IN THE, IN FAIRNESS TO, UH, TO ALL THE PUBLIC, UH, COMMENTERS, I THINK I WILL SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I, WE KNOW WHO THEIR NAMES ARE AND THEN IF SOMEBODY WANTS MORE INFORMATION, THEY CAN TAKE NOTES OR THEY CAN GO, UH, LISTEN TO THE VIDEO.
SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
OKAY, MS. MIDDLETON? THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
I'M GONNA STEM FROM THIS VOTE BECAUSE I WANT TO LOOK AT ROBERT'S RULES.
AND THEN I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF IDENTIFICATION OF THE TOPIC THAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT.
UM, EVEN IF IT'S THREE TOPICS LIST, JUST THE THREE TOPICS ABOUT BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY, TALK ABOUT SCHOOL BUILDING MAINTENANCE.
UM, SO I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS BOOK.
I THINK MISS BOAT WRIGHT BRINGS UP A GREAT POINT ABOUT THE QUOTATION MARKS.
AND I UNDERSTAND ABOUT, UM, WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US ABOUT ROBERT RULES.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT ASPECT OF IT.
UM, BUT I'M GONNA VOTE NO FOR THIS BECAUSE I VOTED TO POSTPONE IT ANYWAY TO BE ABLE TO RESEARCH IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, I THINK IT'S, I'M SO GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
IT'S, IT'S A REALLY GOOD THING TO BRING UP.
BUT I'M GONNA VOTE NO BECAUSE FOR THAT REASON AND
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DR NO FIRST, YEAH, I AGREE THAT THE QUOTATIONS HAVE TO BE AVOIDED.I DON'T THINK WE AREED AND I THINK FOR FACT, WE ASKED TO LIST THE TOPIC ON OUR SHEETS.
WE ASKED WHAT THE, WHAT THE SPEAKING IS GOING TO BE ABOUT IT.
I DON'T SEE WHY THAT WOULDN'T BE IN THE MINUTES, WHAT THEY SPOKE ABOUT.
NOW, THE FLAVOR OF THAT, I DON'T CARE TO HAVE THAT.
BUT ANYONE WHO LOOKS AT THE MINUTES AFTERWARDS OUGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE AN IDEA OF THE TREND OF THE PUBLIC.
YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT THE PUBLIC FEELS IS IMPORTANT, BUT THEY FEEL IS NOT IMPORTANT.
AND THEY'RE SPEAKING ABOUT BOOKS IN SCHOOL LIBRARY OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
THEN THAT OUGHT RESONATE TO US STRICTLY FROM THE MINUTES.
AND BY WE REVIEW THOSE MINUTES 20 YEARS FROM NOW ARE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND NOT GO TO FILMS LOOKING FOR THAT PARTICULAR VIDEO, MS. ROBOT, I, I THINK A, A PERFECT SOLUTION, MEL, WOULD BE TO TAKE WHAT THEY WROTE ON THEIR CARDS.
BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, PEOPLE OFTEN DON'T STICK TO THE TOPICS THEY'VE WRITTEN ON THE CARDS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD WRITE SOMETHING ON THEIR, I I'VE BEEN HERE SITTING IN THIS CHAIR AND I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN WHERE I GET THE CARD AND THEY STAND UP THERE.
THEY DON'T EVEN, THEY, IT'S NOT EVEN TOUCHED WHAT THEY WROTE ON THE CARD.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT I SEE.
I I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD SOLUTION, BUT IN REALITY IT'S NOT AS ACCURATE AS WE WOULD WANT IT TO BE.
YOU WANT AROUND CIRCLE THINKING ON TOPIC THAT THEY MADE.
YOU KNOW MORE THAT, BUT YOU'RE THERE.
WELL, ABOUT YOU DON'T COMMENT.
YOU JUST IN WHAT'S THAT'S, I LOOK, SO JUST TO RESPOND TO MR. CAMPBELL'S THING, I, I'M NOT PARTICULARLY OPPOSED TO HAVING THE TOPIC.
I THINK IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DIVORCE THE TOPIC FROM THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT WAS SAID.
AND THAT'S WHERE I GET CONCERNED.
AND WE CAN SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, 10 PEOPLE SPOKE AND THEY SPOKE ABOUT LIBRARY BOOKS.
WELL, WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE FOUR OR AGAINST IT, YOU KNOW, AND IF THEY SPOKE ABOUT OTHER TOPICS AND WE PUT DOWN THAT THEY SPOKE ABOUT LIBRARY BOOKS, THEY'RE LIKE, THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH LIBRARY BOOKS.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT C RT OR I WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.
IT IS A JUDGMENT CALL AS TO HOW WE INTERPRET THEIR THREE MINUTE SPEECH AND WHAT I SAW IN THE LAST SET OF MINUTES.
AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYBODY, BUT THAT IT COULD BE INTERPRETED AS A JUDGMENT CALL.
AND THAT'S WHY ROBERT'S RULES, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF COLONEL GEIER WAS FRANTICALLY POPPING THROUGH THERE, UM, REALLY WANTS PEOPLE IN THE OFFICIAL MINUTES TO STAY AWAY FROM WHAT WAS SAID.
ACTION, ACTION ITEMS, WHAT WAS DONE, RIGHT, RIGHT.
I MEAN THAT, YEAH, THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL ROBERT RULES.
MR. SMITH, UM, AS WAS STATED, I TOO, WELL, FIRST AND FOREMOST, LEMME START BY SAYING THIS.
THIS IS NOT, THIS IS THE, THIS WILL BE THE SECOND CHANGE THAT WE'VE DONE TO THE AGENDA THIS FAR.
SO, UH, SO, AND, AND IN TERMS OF DOING THIS, I LIKE TO HAVE THE TIME TO DIGEST AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE CHANGED BEFORE TO NOW.
AND TO SEE ALSO HOW THIS HAS CHANGE MAY AFFECT PEOPLE WHO DON'T COME TO THE MEETINGS.
SOME PEOPLE WHO, WHO DO LOOK AT PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SEE WHAT, AND SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS INTERESTING THEM INTEREST THEM OR NOT, OR IF THAT'S A TOPIC THAT THEY, THAT THEY, LIKE MR. MR. CAMPBELL SAID, IF SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT BOOKS, THEN YOU CAN GO AND LOOK UP THOSE COMMENTS.
SO I THINK IT WAS NO, IT WAS, NO, IT'S NO HARM THAN TO GIVE US MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND IT.
AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT MAKING A WHOLE BUNCH OF DECISIONS LESS TIME.
IT'S NOTHING WRONG WITH US HAVING THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THAT, JUST WHERE WE'RE GOING AT AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO I AM NOT, I'M NOT, CANNOT NOT SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I'M NOT READY MADE THAT CHANGE TONIGHT.
AND TO ME, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT SO AND SO WAS TALKING ABOUT.
OH, SEE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, I'M, I NEED TO GO BACK IN HERE VERSUS LISTENING TO EVERY TIME JOE BROWN SPEAKS, AND IT COULD BE SIX JOE IN THE COMMUNITY.
WHICH 1:00 AM I LOOKING FOR? ONE WAS TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION COMPONENT.
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ON THIS MOTION.I WAS, I WASN'T GONNA SAY IT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE JUST BEAT SOMETHING TO DEATH OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
WE ARE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT STUDENTS ARE GETTING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GET.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE ABOUT SMALL STUFF.
OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE ON STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT PERIOD AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE, THE RIGHT PERSON IN THE CLASSROOM TO DO THE JOB.
I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT HOW SOMEBODY FEEL ABOUT WHAT SOMEBODY SAY THAT DON'T BOTHER ME.
I DON'T WASTE NO TIME ON THAT.
CAUSE WHEN I LEAVE HERE NIGHT, I GO HOME, GET SOMETHING TO EAT, GO TO SLEEP.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T TAKE ANY OF THIS STUFF HOME WITH ME.
SOON AS I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, AND I, I DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF ME.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T BLOW, UH, BLOW SMOKE IN MY FACE.
YOU UNDERSTAND? SO LET'S JUST STOP ALL THIS FOOLISHNESS.
OKAY? LET'S STOP THIS FOOLISHNESS AND VOTE.
MYSELF, COLONEL GEIER OPPOSED? MR. MEL CAMPBELL, TRICIA PETRICH, MR. SMITH AND MR. EARL CAMPBELL.
SO IT PASS WHETHER, WHETHER ABSTAINED, IF YOU ABSTAINED IN THAT, THAT WILL GIVE THEM THE VOTE TO APPOINT, TO PASS ABSTAINED MEANS YOU AGREE TO SOME DEGREE.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST, I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.
SO THE MOTION FAILS? NO, IT PASSES.
IT'S NOT CORRECT AT THE TOP THERE.
THAT'S WHAT, SO THAT'S FIVE FOUR WITH ONE ABSTAIN.
AND I, I THINK MR. SMITH MAY HAVE A POINT, UM, THAT AN ABSTAIN IS COUNTED AS A NO, BECAUSE IT'S THE VOTING MEMBERS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE VOTING MEMBERS.
SO AN ABSTAIN COUNTS AS A NO, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT THE MOTION FAILS.
I SEE COLONEL GEIER REACHING FOR THE ROBERTS RULES BOOK.
I'M PRETTY SURE ABOUT THAT ONE.
AND I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THAT THIS SOFTWARE TOLD US WHETHER IT PASSED OR NOT.
RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY IT FAILED.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE VOTING MEMBERS.
AND AN ABSTAIN IS CONSIDERED A VOTING MEMBER.
SO THE MOTION FAILS, SAYS FINAL MOTION ON TOP.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK IT UP.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCURATE.
VERY SIMPLY, ABSTENTIONS DO NOT COUNT AS EITHER YES OR NO.
VOTES TO ABSTAIN NEEDS TO REFRAIN FROM VOTING.
SO, BUT, BUT THE, I THINK THE, THE PART IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE VOTING MEMBERS TO PASS ABSTAIN AS A VOTING MEMBER.
RESEARCHED THIS ONE PRETTY THOROUGHLY.
SO I'M PRETTY SURE I'M RIGHT ON THIS ONE.
THIS DISCUSS THIS ONE TO DEATH.
BUT, BUT THIS IS PRETTY FUNDAMENTAL.
THIS, SO THE SOFTWARE IS CORRECT.
NOW WE GO TO FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS.
I THINK A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE BEEN BLEAKLY REFERRED TO TONIGHT.
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YOU KNOW, WE STILL DIDN'T VOTE ON[Consent Agenda]
THE MINUTES THOUGH, SO WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THE MINUTES.I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE, UM, SEPTEMBER, 2022 BOARD MEETING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? UH, MIDDLE TO NINE.
SO NO INGRID'S NO, SHE DOESN'T WANT THE QUOTATIONS.
YEAH, WHEN YOUR HAND WENT UP, I KIND OF NEED YOUR HELP.
YOU GOTTA BE HELP ME OUT HERE.
I'M JUST NEEDLING YOU A LITTLE BIT.
[Future Agenda Topics]
I THINK A COUPLE OF 'EM HAVE COME UP TONIGHT.SO, UH, SCHOOL START TIMES AS WELL.
MR. S I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT STUDENTS DISCIPLINE.
WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT STUDENT DISCIPLINE.
I THOUGHT WE HAD MORE, BUT, UH, YEAH, BUT EVERYBODY'S TIRED.
I, I GAVE ONE FOR THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE MEETING WAS TO HAVE IT, UH, UH, A TOPIC OF HOW TO IMPROVE OUR LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY.
RIGHT, BUT THAT'S FOR THE COMMITTEE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
NOT FOR THE, NOT FOR THE, BECAUSE KEEP STARTED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL AND WE MIGHT BRING IT TO THE BOARD LEVEL.
[Announcements]
HAVE MR. UH, JUST BREAST IS BREAST CANCER.AND I JUST LIKE TO LET ALL THE PEOPLE CANCER, BREAST CANCER KNOW THAT THE BOARD DOES SUPPORT EVERYONE BREAST CANCER.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.
[Second Public Comments]
COMMENTS.MY FUTURE GRAND BABIES AND MY GRAND BABY.
UM, UH, NUMBER ONE, UM, WHEN ARE YOU GETTING BACK TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE AND ASKED THE QUESTIONS ON THE LIBRARY BOOKS AND ON THE PORNOGRAPHY AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE CT.
WHEN, WHEN DO YOU GET BACK TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THESE THINGS? I'M SORRY, WE CAN'T RESPOND TO YOU, MA'AM.
SURE, WHY NOT? CAUSE THAT'S OUR POLICY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S OUR POLICY.
WE, WE CAN'T RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO WHEN, WHEN WE RESPOND, WE CAN'T EVEN, WHEN OR WHEN I CAN FIND YOUR RESPONSE THERE, WILL THERE BE NO RESPONSE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THERE WILL BE NO RESPONSE TO THESE THINGS BECAUSE THIS GENTLEMAN BACK IN, HE'S ASKEDED NUMEROUS TIMES, IS WHAT HE'S BEEN SAYING AND IS NOT JUDGING ANYTHING.
SO OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO THE PUMP.
WE WORK FOR US AND OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN.
OH, YOU GUYS BELIEVABLE? I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A OPERATIONS SENIOR OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR A COMPANY.
I'VE BEEN A SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT FOR A COMPANY.
THE WAY THAT THIS IS RUN, THE WOULD'VE BEEN FIRED A LONG, ALL FIRED.
THE WAY THAT YOU DEAL THESE AND THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT, IT'S SO BORING.
IT'S NO WONDER THERE ARE NO PARENTS IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE GRANDPARENTS AND PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING TO YOU GET WITH PEOPLE WHO GET YOU OFF THE BOARD BECAUSE THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE THE WAY YOU RAMBLE ON ABOUT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
I MEAN, IT IS JUST SO I'M GLAD ALL MY GIRLS ARE OUTTA SCHOOL RIGHT NOW.
AND AFTER I'VE SEEN WHAT I'VE SEEN RIGHT NOW, I WILL LOVE SPENDING MY CHILDREN BECAUSE, UH, MY GRANDCHILDREN, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING.
UH, THIRDLY, UM, WE, THE PUBLIC DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH YOUR POINTS UP HERE.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE A LITTLE ONE SENTENCE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
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ABOUT.SO WE, THE PEOPLE WHO WE'RE WORKING FOR KNOW WHAT THE HELL THIS MEETING'S ABOUT.
IT'S LIKE, NO WONDER THERE'S NO WAY HERE.
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THEN WHEN YOU TALK, YOU TALK AMONGST YOURSELF.
THIS IS NO WAY TO RUN A, IT'S NO BAD TO RUN A BUSINESS.
AND THE THING IS, YOU CAN'T MANAGE WHAT YOU DON'T MEASURE.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE MEASUREMENT TONIGHT ABOUT ANYTHING.
AND IF ONE THING IN BUSINESS, WE MEASURE EVERYTHING AND THEN WE KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT WE DO.
AND IF I DIDN'T HAVE THE MEASUREMENT FOR THIS, THAT, AND OTHER THING, FIRED JUST LIKE YOU, SHOULD I BE THE RAMBLING WOULD NEVER FLY IN THE REAL BUSINESS WORLD.
IT WOULD NEVER FLY, MA'AM, YOUR TIME.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I JUST WANNA SAY ONE MORE THING.
IT SEEMS PURPOSELY THIS IS ALL DONE IN PURPOSE.
SO YOU DON'T WANT PARENTS BETTER, SO YOU CAN JUST DO WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANNA DO.
AND THIS IS CHILDREN AT STAKE.
THEY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR OUR FUTURE.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU TELL ME NOT TO TALK, I THINK MY FIRST TIME HERE, AND I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHAT IS GOING ON.
AND FOR US NOT TO BE ABLE TO HEAR EXACTLY WHAT IS QUOTED, LIKE WHAT I AM SAYING RIGHT NOW, ITD MR. CASSINO NOT.
UH, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS SHORT.
UM, I I WASN'T GONNA MAKE A SECOND COMMENT OF THE NIGHT, BUT I I WILL SAY THIS, UM, WITH THE LAST CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KEEPING, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC'S COMMENTS OFF OF THE RECORD IS, IS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE I, I PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO COMING TO THESE MEETINGS TO, TO SPEAK.
AND I, AND I PLAN WHAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT, AND IT'S THOUGHTFUL, UH, AND IT ADDRESSES AN ISSUE OR, OR SOMETHING THAT IS ON MY MIND.
AND FOR THE BOARD TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA RECORD WHAT I SAY IS, IS REALLY CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE IT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO SILENCE WHAT THE PARENTS ARE COMING HERE TO, TO VOICE ABOUT.
I, YOU, YOU HAD A GREAT SOLUTION.
UH, I DO THINK THAT, THAT THE SOLUTION IS VERY SIMPLE.
I COME UP HERE, MAKE A STATEMENT, IT'S RECORDED, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO USE QUOTATIONS, PUNCTUATION, EXCLAMATION, ALL THAT STUFF.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THERE'S ANY REASON WHY THE WORDS SHOULDN'T BE DOCUMENTED AND RECORDED.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
WE'RE HERE WITH THE INTENTION OF MY STATEMENTS BEING ON PUBLIC RECORD THERE.
SO FOR YOU TO TRIVIALIZE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD SO MUCH TALK TONIGHT ABOUT WE GOTTA GET OUT INTO THE COMMUNITIES.
WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA WORK WITH THE CONSTITUENTS.
I'VE HEARD THAT SO MANY TIMES TONIGHT.
AND THEN TO FOLLOW IT UP WITH A STATEMENT OF, WELL, WE JUST NEED TO PUT THE PERSON'S NAME DOWN.
WE DON'T NEED, WE DON'T REALLY CARE.
WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
I, I JUST, I REALLY WANT YOU GUYS TO RETHINK THIS.
I MEAN, WE, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I PEOPLE WORK ALL DAY, UM, AS MANY OF YOU DO, I'M SURE.
UM, AND THEN THEY COME TO THESE MEETINGS TO GET THEIR THOUGHTS ON RECORD.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IT'S JUST REALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
I, I, I REALLY CANNOT BELIEVE THAT THAT'S EVEN BEING CONSIDERED TO ERASE WHAT PARENTS ARE COMING HERE TO SAY FOR, UH, WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE COMING HERE TO SAY, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU GUYS WORK FOR.
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THIS IS A BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENT.
ONE OF THE GREAT CHARACTERS OF RECONSTRUCTION.
BEAUFORT WAS A FELLOW NAMED THOMAS EZEKIEL MILLER.
THOMAS MILLER WAS BORN IN VILLE IN WHAT IS NOW JASPER COUNTY IN 1849.
IN FACT, A LOT OF PEOPLE COULDN'T TELL THAT HE WAS BLACK.
HE WAS VERY MUCH MIXED BLOOD GENTLEMAN.
AND HE WAS SENT NORTH TO LINCOLN UNIVERSITY FOR HIS EDUCATION.
SHORTLY AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, HE WAS A BOY DURING THE CIVIL WAR, AND HE RETURNED TO BEAUFORT JUST AS THE RECONSTRUCTION PROSPERITY WAS BEGINNING.
HE READ THE LAW, WAS ADMITTED TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA BAR, WAS A PROMINENT ATTORNEY IN BEAUFORT FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
HE WAS ELECTED TO THE STATE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE STATE SENATE.
HE BECAME A PROTEGE OF ROBERT SMALLS, WHO WAS 10 YEARS HIS SENIOR.
AND HE FOLLOWED ROBERT SMALLS IN MANY OF HIS POLITICAL POSITIONS IN THE STATE HOUSE, IN THE STATE SENATE.
AND THOMAS E. MILLER WAS IN THE 1890S.
AFTER ROBERT SMALLS LEFT THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS, THOMAS E. MILLER SERVED A TERM IN THE US CONGRESS.
IN 1896, THOMAS E. MILLER WAS SELECTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND THE GOVERNOR TO BE THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY OPENED IN 1896.
HE REMAINED PRESIDENT OF SOUTH CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY.
IN FACT, THE FOUNDER OF THE INSTITUTION, THE FOUNDING PRESIDENT OF THE INSTITUTION FROM 1896 TO 1913 WHEN HE'D RETIRED, MOVED TO CHARLESTON AND DIED IN 1933.
THOMAS E. MILLER HAD A VERY INTERESTING HISTORY, AND IT'S VERY REFLECTIVE OF RECONSTRUCTION OF BEAUFORT BECAUSE HE WAS MIXED BLOOD.
HE COULD NEARLY PASS AS A WHITE MAN WHEREVER HE WENT.
BUT THIS TURNED OUT TO BE A POLITICAL LIABILITY FOR HIM.
IN LATE RECONSTRUCTION TIMES, HE WAS NICKNAMED BY HIS POLITICAL ENEMIES, THE CANARY BIRD.
AND WHEN HE DIED AND WAS BURIED IN BROTHERHOOD CEMETERY IN UH, CHARLESTON, HE HAS INSCRIBED ON HIS TOMBSTONE AN INSCRIPTION THAT SAID, NOT HAVING LOVED THE WHITE MAN LESS, BUT FEELING THE BLACK MAN NEEDED ME MORE.
THOMAS E. MILLER WAS A MAN OF TWO WORLDS.
THIS HAS BEEN A BEAUFORD COUNTY MOMENT.
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