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SO IT IS 10 30 ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2022.
AND WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN THE MEETING OF THE FORFEITED LAND COMMISSION.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS TO HEAR THE SUBMITTED SEALED BIDS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO INTERESTED IN PURCHASING, PURCHASING PROPERTY FROM THE FORFEIT AND LAND COMMISSION.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I'LL BEGIN WE WITH ASKING, UH, IF, IF WE JUST WANNA SAY WHO'S ON THE CALL, UM, A MARIE WALLS, I'M THE TREASURER AND THE EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM.
WE HAVE KIMBERLY CHESNEY TAX COLLECTOR, PATSY GREEN, REGISTRAR OF THESE JEFF DELOS, DEPUTY TAX COLLECTOR.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE TWO, BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MS. PATSY AND MYSELF PRESENT, WE ARE ABLE TO HEAR THESE, UM, SUBMISSIONS.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA PASS IT ON TO KIMBERLY AND SHA FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE BITS.
I'M GONNA HAND OUT AND MARIA IT'S IN YOUR, UM, MEETING INVITE THE LIST MM-HMM
THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT HAS BEEN ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY, BEFORE NOON, AS WE RECEIVED ANOTHER BID ON ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THE SPREADSHEET, UM, JEFF, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO HIM SO HE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT, WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S FOR THE PARCEL, UM, FOR THAT'S ON THE SPREADSHEET, REYNOLDS, ROBERT KEARY TRUSTEE.
SO R 800 0 22, I'M SHARING THE SCREEN PERFECT FOR THOSE WATCHING.
AND SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE REPEAT THAT CAUSE I WAS OPENING.
REYNOLDS, SO ALMOST TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, BUT REYNOLDS, RIGHT? THIS ONE MM-HMM
THAT ONE IS THE ONE WE RECEIVED ANOTHER BID ON AND I'M TURNING OVER JEFF.
SO HE CAN, UH, YES, THE INITIAL SEAL BID WE RECEIVED ON THIS PARCEL WAS FOR $100.
UH, WE RECEIVED A SECOND SEAL BID FROM ANOTHER ENTITY.
UH, THAT BID IS IN THE AMOUNT OF 3,800, $4 AND 61 CENTS IS THE 3000.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S COME BACK TO THAT.
DO YOU WANNA GO THROUGH THE BID AMOUNTS FOR EACH PARCEL? OH, BID AMOUNT.
SO FOR ALL OF THOSE VIEWING, THE LIST OF THE PROPERTIES IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER, THE DELINQUENT OWNER, THE YEAR THAT THE PROPERTY WENT TO TAX SALE, BROKEN OUT THE DELINQUENT TAXES THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED SINCE THAT DATE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OUTSTANDING.
AND THEN THE SEALED BID AMOUNT FOR THOSE WATCHING WHO HAVE, ARE NOT AWARE OF WHAT OUR PROCESS IS, A SEALED BID MEANS THAT MS. PATSY AND I HAVE NOT VIEWED, OR, OR WERE NOT AWARE OF THESE BID AMOUNTS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING TODAY, AND A SEALED BID IS ONE THAT IS LESS THAN THE AMOUNT DUE.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, MS. PATSY, THAT WE CONSIDER THE BIDS FOR THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT HAVE A COMPETING BID SEPARATE FROM THE ONE THAT DOES.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
UM, SO DO WE WANNA OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS IF IT'S PASSING? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE PROPERTIES OR THE BID AMOUNTS OR ANYTHING FOR JEFF OR KIMBERLY? MY, MY CONCERN ONLY IS THAT THE BID AMOUNT IS WAY BELOW WHAT'S OWED LIKE EXTREMELY BELOW I DON'T.
AND I REALLY THOUGHT THAT IT HAD TO BE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT WAS WHAT WAS OWED.
SO THE MINIMUM AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE OWED.
SO I'M GONNA USE THE FIRST ONE AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, THIS PIN RIGHT HERE WOULD BE $4,653 AND 81 CENTS IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT DUE NOW AS, AND, UM, MS. PATSY, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW THIS, SO I'M JUST REPEATING IT FOR ANYONE.
WHO'S GONNA VIEW THIS RECORDING AND NOT KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
SO THE PROPERTY WENT TO TAX SALE IN 2015.
THAT'S THE FIRST TIME IT BECAME DELINQUENT.
AND SINCE THEN EVERY YEAR THAT THE PROPERTY HAS NOT HAD A BID AT THE TAX SALE, THE TAX AMOUNT HAS GROWN AND GROWN.
OCCASIONALLY I CAN'T, I'M NOT SPEAKING PARTICULARLY ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT OCCASIONALLY THE TAX AMOUNT DO EXCEEDS THE AMOUNT THAT SOMEONE IS WILLING TO PAY FOR IT AT THE TAX SALE.
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WILL REMAIN IN THE FLC FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AS YOU CAN SEE, WITH MANY OF THESE, A BID AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY AUTOMATICALLY ACCEPTED WOULD BE A BID AMOUNT.THAT'S THE MINIMUM AMOUNT DUE CAUSE THAT IT WOULD BE THE OPENING BID AT THE REGULAR TAX SALE.
SO FLC PROPERTIES OF COURSE CAN BE BID UPON AT ANY TIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, NOT JUST AT THE ANNUAL TAX SALE, BUT IN ORDER TO BE AUTOMATICALLY ESSENTIALLY ACCEPTED, IT WOULD NEED TO BE FOR THE MINIMUM AMOUNT DUE IF A BIDDER IS INTERESTED IN BIDDING, LESS THAN THE AMOUNT DUE, WHATEVER AMOUNT THAT IS, THEY WOULD SUBMIT THAT A SEALED BID AND THE REASON IT'S CALLED SEALED IT'S IT'S BECAUSE IT IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS.
AND, AND NEITHER DO ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE UNTIL THE COMMITTEE CONVENES THAT AMOUNT, THE BID AMOUNT IS SHARED.
AND THEN WE TAKE A VOTE BY MAJORITY, A MAJORITY VOTE ON WHETHER TO ACCEPT THE BID OR NOT.
UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE ONLY TWO MEMBERS PRESENT TODAY AND NOT ALL THREE, WE WOULD NEED TO BE UNANIMOUS.
AND FOR THE BID AMOUNT, I, I MEAN, WELL, ANOTHER QUESTION IS, WAS THIS ADVERTISED TO THE PUBLIC, THIS, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE UP FOR SALE.
KIMBERLY, I SEE YOU NODDING, BUT IF YOU WANNA VERBALLY, WE CONFIRM IT'S ALWAYS ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE HAVE IT ON THERE ALL THE TIME.
AND EVEN AT OUR TAX SALES, UH, MISS MARIA WAS JUST ACKNOWLEDGING, WE GIVE A LIST TO EVERYBODY THAT SHOWS UP FOR THESE, ANY PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN, IN THE FLC.
SO WE TRY VERY HARD TO PUT IT OUT THERE AND WE GET LOTS OF QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
LIKE WHERE'S THE LIST AND WE DIRECT THEM AND IT'S UPDATED WEEKLY MM-HMM
SO IN ADDITION TO THE ANNUAL TAX SALE, WHICH OF COURSE THEY ARE ANNOUNCED AND AUCTIONED BY THE AUCTION YEAR, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PROPERTY, WE, AND THEN BEING ON THE WEBSITE YEAR ROUND, WE HAVE HELD ONLINE AUCTIONS FOR OUR FLC PROPERTY AND THESE HAVE CONTINUED TO REMAIN ALL.
I, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS PROPERTY BACK ON THE TAX ROLL, CORRECT.
I JUST HATE SEEING IT GO FOR A HUNDRED BUCKS A PIECE ANYWAY.
UM, AND KIMBERLY, I KNOW THAT I WANNA HEAR WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO ADD.
UM, CAN YOU CONFIRM, I DON'T WANNA ASSUME, BUT COULD YOU CONFIRM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE RECEIVED BIDS ON THESE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES? IT, IT IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE RECEIVED BIDS ON THESE PROPERTIES AND I DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE, SO WE CAN ONLY, WE CAN ONLY COLLECT ON 10 YEARS TAXES AND NEW IN RECENT.
SO EVERY YEAR, SO THERE'S SOME PROPERTIES AND THIS JUST FOR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT ARE, HAVE 2012 TAXES, SOME OF THOSE HAD 2011 TAXES AND PRIOR THAT HAS THEN BEEN WRITTEN OFF BECAUSE WE CAN'T COLLECT THEM.
SO I JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UM, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT MS. PAS SAYING IS SAYING.
AND I THINK THAT'S ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGE FOR THIS COMMITTEE WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTIES LIKE THIS, DO WE ACCEPT A LESS AMOUNT, UH, IN THIS CASE, SIGNIFICANTLY LESSER AMOUNT FOR THESE PROPERTIES IN ORDER TO GET THEM BACK IN THE HANDS OF A PAYING TAX FAIR, OR DO WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW THEM TO REMAIN IN THE FLC AND ACCUMULATE TAXES THAT ARE NOT BEING PAID? AND THAT'S, THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE QUESTION.
UM, FOR ME, I'LL SAY THAT FROM, FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND FROM OUR RECORDS, WE HAVE NOT HAD A SINGLE OCCASION THAT THE FLC, THE FORFEIT LAND COMMISSION HAS APPROVED A SEALED BID AND THOSE PROPERTIES RETURNED TO TAX SALE.
THEY HAVE ALWAYS REMAINED CURRENT WELL, I THINK THAT THAT WAS WHAT I WAS LEANING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A REALLY, REALLY LOW BID, EXTREMELY LOW TO GET 'EM BACK ON THE TAX ROLL AND TO CLEAR UP THIS LIST.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOUR WAS DONE.
YEAH, I WAS DONE WELL, THIS WOULD BE, SINCE YOU SAID TO CLEAN UP THE LIST, UM, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THAT THE FOR ED LAND COMMISSION HAS NOT HAD ANY PROPERTIES, SO MEANS EVERY PROPERTY YEAH.
IS ON THE TAX ROLL, WHICH WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE, YEAH.
THE ONE PIECE THAT WE'VE PUT ASIDE SO FAR
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CAN, IS THAT, WAS THAT A FAMILY MEMBER THAT BID ON IT OR DOES IT, CAN I ASK YOU MAY IT'S HATE POINT CLUB AND COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, SO IT'S THE HOA.I WAS JUST WONDERING THEY BID, YOU KNOW, AND THAT ONE'S BEEN ON THERE, I'M ASSUMING AT LEAST 2012 AND PRIOR, AND YET THEIR BID WAS A LOT HIGHER.
UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS REYNOLDS, ROBERT? YEAH.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT COMPARISON TO THE OTHER ONES.
IF IT WAS A FAMILY MEMBER OF A TRUST, I UNDERSTAND.
I MEAN, THEY WANT IT, THEY KEEP IT, THEY KEEP IT IN THE FAMILY, BUT IT WASN'T
UM, NO, I, I SAY LET'S GO WITH IT AND TAKE CARE OR TAKE THE BID OFFER ON ALL THESE PIECES OF PROPERTY AND CLEAR IT UP AND GET 'EM BACK ON THE TAX BILLS.
SO TO CLARIFY, MS. PATSY, I'LL TAKE THAT AS THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE BID AMOUNTS FOR ALL THOSE LISTED FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS OFFERED BY CNC PROPERTY INVESTMENTS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PARCEL NUMBER R 800 0 2 2 0 0 E 0 0 4 8 OWNED BY REYNOLDS ROBERTS.
WE'LL CONSIDER THAT SEPARATELY SINCE THERE IS A COMPETING BID.
UM, SO DO I HAVE THAT MOTION CORRECT? MS. PATSY, FOR ALL OTHER PROPERTIES, YOU MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE BID AMOUNTS AS PRESENTED.
SO THOSE OF US IN FAVOR, I OKAY, WONDERFUL.
SO THOSE PROPERTIES WILL, UM, WILL BE PROCESSED BY THE DELINQUENCY TEAM.
I'M ENSURE THAT THOSE, UM, TITLES GET PROCESSED CORRECTLY, MS. PATSY, WITH, WITH YOUR TEAM'S ASSISTANCE.
AND MS. JENNY WILL INCLUDE THAT IN OUR MINUTES.
SO GOING BACK TO THIS PROPERTY, OUR 800 0 2 2 0 E OWNED BY REYNOLDS, ROBERT KERRY, TRUSTEE, UM, KIMBERLY OR JEFF, WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING THE AMOUNT OF THE COMPETING BID? YES.
THE COMPETING BID IS IN THE AMOUNT OF 3,800, $4 AND 61 CENTS.
SO FOR, JUST FOR CONSISTENCY, YOU SAID THAT WAS BEING OFFERED BY THE HA POINT.
DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY? MM-HMM
HA POINT CLUB AND COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION UNDERSTOOD.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU COULD CONFIRM, BECAUSE THEIR BID AMOUNT IS GREATER THAN THE TAX AMOUNT DUE, HAD THEIR BID BEEN RECEIVED BEFORE THE SEALED BID, THEY WOULD HAVE AUTOMATICALLY BEEN AWARDED THE PROPERTY.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THE REASON THEY'RE BEING CONSIDERED TODAY IS THAT WE DO HAVE A, A COMPETING BID.
AND LIKE I MENTIONED, THE FLC WAS NOT AWARE OF WHAT THAT COMPETING BID AMOUNT WAS.
SO, UM, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE BID BY HA POINT HOA IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,804 AND 61 CENTS AS THE GREATER OF THE TWO BITS.
WAS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT WE WANTED TO CONSIDER TODAY WHILE THE FLC IS TOGETHER? NOT THAT I CAN THINK OF.
WELL, THIS IS VERY EXCITING THAT WE OFFICIALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY PROPERTIES IN THE FLC, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
WHEN IS YA? TAX SALE? OCTOBER 3RD, OCTOBER 3RD, FIRST, MONDAY IN OCTOBER.
DO I NEED TO ATTEND THAT OR DOES IT MATTER? WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO BE HERE.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, WELL, I WORKED AT ONE YEAR OVER IN JASPER COUNTY, BUT IT WAS JUST MAINLY TO KEEP RECORD, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THAT.
AND IF I DON'T HAVE TO, I DON'T.
AND WE'LL HAVE A REPORT, UM, OF THE OUTCOME, OBVIOUSLY ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH THE NUMBERS OF THE FLC COMMITTEE AS WELL AS COUNCIL, SO, OKAY.
WELL, IT'S CONSIDERING THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS.
IT'S 10 44 AND I WILL, WE WILL END THE MEETING OF THE FORFEITED LAND COMMISSION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE CONGRAT.