[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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FACILITIES BEAUFORD COUNTY, MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH.
UM, AND FIRST OF ALL, PROCEDURALLY, WE'VE GONE BEYOND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE CAN HAVE IN THE ROOM FOR THE FIRE CODE.
SO THERE'S ROOM FOR ABOUT 15 PEOPLE IN THE EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM.
THE DOOR WILL BE OPEN AND WE CAN LIVE WITH ONE ROW OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE THEIR BACKS TO THE WALL, BUT IT ASKS ANYBODY THAT CAN'T DO THOSE TWO THINGS TO ACTUALLY MOVE INTO THE HALL AND YOU CAN WATCH THE MEETING FROM THERE.
UH, OTHERWISE WE'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE FIRE CODES.
SO I'LL WAIT FOR A SECOND FOR PEOPLE TO DO THAT AND, UH, APOLOGIZE.
WE CAN EVERY, BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE ALL OF YOU HERE.
SOME OF YOU ACTUALLY FIND IT VERY COMFORTABLE IN THE EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM.
IF NOT, WE CAN GO OVER THERE AND YOU ALL CAN MEET HERE.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE SINGLE ROW ACROSS THE BACK.
I'M I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT LET'S JUST HAVE THOSE FOLKS MOVE OUT, PLEASE.
UM, IF YOU WOULD RISE, DRAW ME TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, AN INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE STRAW.
[3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND, UH, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT IT.WHAT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE THE, UH, BEAUFORT HIGH ACCESS PIECE FIRST, SINCE SO MANY OF YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT IN DEFERENCE TO YOUR TIME.
AND, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ACTUALLY TEE UP THE DISCUSSION, GET A FEW PRELIMINARY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL AND THEN HAVE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.
AND I THINK THAT WILL GIVE AWAY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEAKING TO KIND OF GET A SENSE OF WHAT'S ON THE TABLE AND, AND WHERE WE'RE HEADED, AND THAT MAY HELP WITH THE COMMENTS.
THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND, UH, UH, CONCLUDE OUR DISCUSSION AND TAKE ANY ACTION THAT WE, WE THINK WE NEED TO, UH, TAKE.
HEY, I'LL DO A SIMILAR THING FOR THE, UH, 2 78.
AND SINCE PEOPLE ARE ONLY HERE FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS, UH, WE'LL UH, HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE AT THE TIME THAT WE DISCUSS THEM.
SO, UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, UH, I'D LOOK FOR APPROVAL OF THE, UH, AGENDA, THE MOTION.
DID YOU WANNA MOVE 12 UP TO MAKE IT NUMBER NINE? YES.
NO, I'M, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT AT THE END.
UM, SO I'M LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE IT STANDS APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION.
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - September 22, 2022]
THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR SEPTEMBER 22ND.ANY DISCUSSION CORRECTIONS SEEING NONE STANDS APPROVED? UH, WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE'LL SKIP DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT NOW,
[8. US 21 WIDENING AND BEAUFORT HIGH SCHOOL ACCESS REALIGNMENT ALTERNATIVES]
WHICH IS THE HIGH SCHOOL ACCESS PIECE, WHICH, UH, WHICH YOU'RE ALL HERE FOR, OR AT LEAST MOST OF YOU ARE.UM, AND LET ME GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND I THINK WHERE WE ARE, AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL HELP FOCUS OUR DISCUSSION.
IT KIND OF GOES LIKE THIS, UM, SOMETHING THAT BEEN HANGING AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE TAKE IT UP AT OUR SUMMER PUBLIC FACILITIES MEETINGS.
AND SO WE HAD TWO DURING THE SUMMER AND THE FIRST ONE, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
AND THEN WE ZEROED IN ON THE TWO ALTERNATIVES, WHICH WERE CALLED FOUR AND FIVE AS THE ONES THAT SEEMED TO BE THE MOST PLAUSIBLE OR RECOMMENDED AT, AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
AND, AND THOSE KIND OF CAME IN FROM THE SOUTHEAST PART, UH, OFF OF, UH, I GUESS THIS LADIES ISLAND DRIVE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL COMPLEX.
UM, THEN WE GOT TO OUR SECOND MEETING IN THE SUMMER, WHICH WAS IN LATE AUGUST.
UM, THERE WAS A, A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM THE FOLKS IN THAT AREA RELATING TO HAVING MORE SCHOOL TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THERE AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT THAT IT WOULD HAVE ON CRYSTAL LAKE PARK.
SO THAT LED TO A DISCUSSION AT THAT MEETING ABOUT WHETHER
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IT MADE SENSE TO GO WITH WHAT BECAME KNOWN AS, UM, ALTERNATIVE ZERO AND ALTERNATIVE ZERO WAS THE ONE THAT WOULD'VE TAKEN THE THREE LANE, SEA ISLAND PARKWAY TO FOUR LANES AND TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PUSHBACK FROM THAT ALSO.UH, AND I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THAT.
I, I ACTUALLY DROVE IT TODAY TO, TO LOOK AT IT.
UM, AND, AND CLEARLY AS THE, IF IT GETS WIDENED, UH, IT STARTS TO INFRINGE ON BUSINESSES ON EITHER SIDE, UM, AND SO ON.
UM, AND ALSO THERE'S AN ARGUMENT THAT SAID, YOU'VE GOT A TWO-LANE BRIDGE GOING TO, GOING TO FOUR LANES AND SO ON.
SO, UH, WE, WE, WE AS COUNCIL CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF PUSHBACK THAT THERE HAS BEEN TO THAT SO-CALLED, UM, ALTERNATIVE ZERO, UH, WHICH WOULD WIDEN FROM THE THREE TO THE FOUR LANES.
NOW, IF WE LOOK AT THE, THE MONEY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, IF WE HAD DONE FOUR AND FIVE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS NEEDED WAS IN THE RANGE OF, I THINK, SEVEN, $8 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICHEVER ONE WE MIGHT HAVE DONE, UH, THE, THE NUMBERS THAT I'VE HEARD IF WE WERE DOING ALTERNATIVE ZERO STARTS TO BE IN THE 12 TO 15 MILLION TYPE TYPE OF NUMBER, WHICH A A AS WE WERE LEADING UP TO THIS MEETING, UH, IT, IT KIND OF SAID IF WE DON'T HAVE, UM, SUPPORT FOR ANY OF THE OPTIONS, SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT, AND WE DON'T, AND WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF PUSHBACK FROM OPTIONS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE AND THEY'RE EXPENSIVE, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AT THIS POINT TO DO IT.
THE BETTER THING FOR US TO DO MAY BE TO DO NONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES, BUT TAKE UP THE INDIVIDUAL IMPROVEMENTS ON KIND OF A RUNNING BASIS LIKE WE WOULD NORMALLY DO IN, IN THE COURSE OF OUR BUSINESS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE PLANNED OR WOULD BE DONE ANYWAY.
AND, UM, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT TIE INTO THE, UH, I GUESS THE LADIES ISLAND PLAN, A PORTION OF WHICH IS FUNDED BY THE MONEY FROM THE REFERENDUM IN 2018.
SO TO ME, I THINK WHERE WE'RE KIND OF HEADED IS A DEBATE OF WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD, UM, NOT DO WHETHER WE SHOULD PROBABLY NOT DO ANY OF THE ONES, BUT TAKE THE INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS UP AND DO COURSES AS WE GO FORWARD.
NOW I'M GONNA ME CALL AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO BUILD ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU CAN, UM, AS TO IF WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING, WHAT WOULD WE, WHAT ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING AS WE WENT FORWARD, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME? YEP.
SO, YEAH, AS YOU MENTIONED, UM, TRY NOT TO INFECT THE, UH, THE SPEAKER, SO YEAH, I'LL TRY TO STAY BACK FROM IT AND TALK INTO AS MUCH AS I CAN.
SO OPTION ZERO, THAT WAS SORT OF THE OPTION THAT CAME UP.
UM, LAST PFC MEETING IN AUGUST, UM, WHEN REALLY WE CALL IT ZERO, BUT IT HAD BEEN LOOKED AT A LITTLE BIT PRIOR TO, AS KIND OF ALTERNATIVE ONE, UM, WITH A FEW MODIFICATIONS, UM, STAFF WAS TASKED WITH AT THAT TIME TO COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, IF WE WIDEN IT TO THE NORTH, THERE'S, THERE'S CERTAIN AMOUNT OF COSTS AND IMPACTS.
IF WE WIDEN IT TO THE SOUTH TO MAKE THE FOURTH LANE, THERE'S A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF IMPACTS AND COSTS, OR IF WE SPLIT THE WIDEN INTO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH.
SO WE KIND OF HAVE THREE ITERATIONS OF THAT SAME ALTERNATIVE.
UM, SO WE'VE SINCE DONE THAT HOMEWORK.
UM, WE'VE GOT THE COST AND THE IMPACTS AND JENNIFER BRAGWELL, SHE WILL BE HERE IN JUST A SECOND BEHIND ME.
UM, SHE'S OUR PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE SALES TAX PROGRAM AND WORKING WITH OUR DESIGN CONSULTANTS ON THE PROJECT.
UM, SHE'LL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS, SHE'LL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL WHAT THOSE ARE, UH, IF WE CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH NONE OF THE ABOVE OPTIONS.
AND THAT'S REALLY SPECIFICALLY FROM THE BRIDGE WOODS MEMORIAL BRIDGE TO LADIES ISLAND DRIVE TO THE WALGREENS INTERSECTION.
UM, SO THERE WOULD BE NO TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THAT SECTION, UM, AND NO ADDITIONAL ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO NO COMING OUT TO LADIES ISLAND DRIVE, UM, ON THE SOUTHEAST PORTION, IF WE DID NONE OF THE ABOVE OPTIONS, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE STILL CAN'T DO SOME, UM, SOME PEDESTRIAN AND ACCESS PATHWAY ACCOMMODATIONS, UH, SOME POTENTIAL STREET AESTHETICS, UM, AND EVEN UNDERGROUND AND POWER FOR RESILIENCY AND, AND DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO THEN THE REST OF THE PROJECT WOULD REMAIN.
SO THE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO FOUR LANE, THE HIGHWAY ON 21, ALL THE WAY FROM THE LADIES ISLAND INTERSECTION AT WALGREENS OUT PAST WALMART, THAT WOULD STILL REMAIN AS WELL AS THE IMPROVEMENTS ON NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE, OF 21 ON SAM'S POINT, UM, FROM
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MILLER DRIVE WEST DOWN TO RUDA BOY.SO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD REMAIN ALSO THE ADDITIONAL ACCESS, UM, PROJECTS, THE HAZEL FARM AND GAY, AS WELL AS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IMPROVEMENTS, THE AIRPORT FRONTAGE ROAD IMPROVEMENT, UM, AND THE SUNSET AND MILLER DRIVE, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, ALL THAT WOULD REMAIN.
SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS WHETHER WE DO ANYTHING ON THAT ONE SECTION FROM WALGREENS, BACK TO THE BRIDGE, UM, AND PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL AS IT IS TODAY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE HAVE TEED UP.
UM, AND IF YOU'D LIKE I CAN INVITE JENNIFER AND SHE CAN KIND OF GIVE YOU THE DETAILS OF THOSE ANALYSIS THAT WE DID.
ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE JENNIFER WITH US.
SO ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND I'M GONNA KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT JARED JUST DISCUSSED WITH THE POWERPOINT.
AND IT'S GONNA START OFF WITH THE 21 CORRIDOR, BUT THERE'S A BACKGROUND ONCE AGAIN, IF, IF YOU CLICK ON ABOUT THE THIRD SLIDE DOWN THE OVERALL MAP, GO UP ONE, SORRY, GO UP ONE SLIDE, GO UP TWO SLIDES.
SO AS JAR MENTIONED, THESE WERE ALL THE ORIGINAL PROJECTS THAT WERE PART OF THE LADIES ISLAND CORRIDOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BALLOT REFERENDUM.
SO AGAIN, IT'S THE TWO MAINLINE CORRIDORS OF US, 21 BUSINESS, US 21, UH, CL AND PARKWAY AND LADY ISLAND DRIVE.
AND THEN THE SCA 8 0 2 CORRIDOR, AS WELL AS THE ACCESS ROADS.
SO THEN FROM THERE, AND I'M GOING TO TRY AND NOT CONFUSE YOU, BUT MAYBE CONFUS YOU A LITTLE BIT.
SO ALTERNATE ONE IS ACTUALLY WHAT'S IN THE SCOPE RIGHT NOW OF KEEPING, UH, US 21 BUSINESS AS THE THREE LANE SECTION WITH SOME ACCESS MANAGEMENT FROM THE WEST MEMORIAL BRIDGE UP TO THE MAIN INTERSECTION OF S E 8 0 2 AND 21.
UM, WITH THIS ONE PROJECT, THERE ARE ACTUALLY, AND WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR A COUPLE OF DISPLACEMENT.
UH, THESE THREE DISPLACEMENT WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON ALL IMPROVEMENTS HERE.
THE REASON BEING IS THERE'S AN PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF YEMEN'S AND SEA ISLAND PARKWAY.
IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE PRESENT RIGHT OF NOW.
SO I'VE TAKEN THE ASSUMPTION THAT WHEN IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS IN COORDINATION WITH S C D O T S C D O T MAY REQUIRE THEM TO BE, BE RELOCATED REGARDLESS.
UM, JUST BECAUSE SHOWS UP ON THE PLANS.
THAT WAY IT SHOWS UP IN THE COUNTY GIS SHOWS UP ON D T'S EXISTING PLANS THAT WAY.
SO, UM, THAT'S INCLUDED REGARDLESS.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF SAM'S POINT AND MILLER DRIVE WEST THAT WITH, BETWEEN THE ACCESS ROAD AND THE MAIN LINE IMPROVEMENTS IT'S HIT REGARDLESS.
SO THOSE THREE ARE ACROSS THE BOARD IN ALL OF THESE.
SO WITH THIS, WHAT WE CONCENTRATED ON WAS OBVIOUSLY BETWEEN WOODS MEMORIAL BRIDGE TO, UM, SAM'S POINT, BUT WE DID LOOK AT THE RIGHT OF WAY ON ALL OF IT.
WE LOOKED AT THE PROJECT COST FOR ALL OF IT, AND ALL OF IT BEING LADIES ISLAND DRIVE SAM'S POINT AND SEA ISLAND PARKWAY FROM THE MAIN INTERSECTION GOING EAST.
SO ALTERNATES TWO THROUGH FOUR, ACTUALLY LOOK AT WIDENING THE CORRIDOR FROM WOODS MEMORIAL BRIDGE TO SAM'S POINT ALTERNATE.
IF YOU'LL CLICK ON THE NEXT SLIDE, ALTERNATE TWO, THIS ONE ACTUALLY CONSIDERED DOING MORE OF THE WIDENING TO THE NORTH AND SHOWING THE POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT HERE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S, UH, YOU'VE GOT SOME POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT ACCESS MANAGEMENT STANDARDS BEING INCORPORATED ALTERNATE THREE, WHICH IS THE NEXT LINE DOWN THAT ONE LOOKS AT WIDENING ABOUT THE CENTER LINE.
SO WHEN YOU WIDEN ABOUT THE CENTER LINE, WE GET NO COST SAVINGS FROM CONSTRUCTION.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS YOU'RE HITTING THE CURB, GUTTER DRAINAGE, BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
SO WHEN I GET TO THE END AND YOU SEE A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE AND WHY THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE IS BECAUSE, WELL, WE'RE REPLACING ALL THE CARBON GUTTER, ALL THE DRAINAGE, BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, ALTERNATE FOUR LOOKED AT WIDENING TO THE SOUTH SIDE MORE.
NOW, ONE THING WE DID LOOK AT WHEN WE GOT INTO THE ESTIMATES, WE LOOKED AT POTENTIAL, UH, PARKING SPACES THAT GET REMOVED, REGARDLESS, ALL OF 'EM HAVE IT EVEN ALTERNATE ONE, BECAUSE EVEN DOING THE, UH, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PASS THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THOSE, WE'RE STILL HITTING SOME PARKING PLACES REGARDLESS.
SO WE STILL HAD TO CONSIDER THAT.
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SO THEN THESE ARE SOME PROS AND CONS BETWEEN THE VARIOUS ALTERNATE ONE COMPARED TO ALTERNATES TWO THROUGH FOUR.SO WITH ALTERNATE ONE, IT ACTUALLY WAS CONSIDERED ORIGINALLY TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND, AND NOT INCREASE THE LINEAGE IN THAT SECTION BECAUSE WE WERE GONNA DO BEAUFORT HIGH SCHOOL.
SO WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO REMOVE THE HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC FROM THIS SECTION OF THE CORRIDOR, WITH THE ALTERNATE ONE.
SO THE BENEFIT FOR IT WOULD BE IF THE HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC IS REALIGNED ON A DIFFERENT ROUTE, THEN WE WOULD CONVERT THAT ENTRANCE TO RIGHT.
AND RIGHT OUT SCHOOL TRAFFIC IS SHIFTED FROM 21, UH, THE BUSINESS SECTION.
UM, AGAIN, WE'VE MINIMIZED DISPLACEMENT HERE.
UM, WE'VE GOT SOME ACCESS MANAGEMENT STANDARDS WITHIN, OF COURSE WE'RE INCREASING THE BI PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES IN THIS.
IF BEAUFORT HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT REALIGNED AND WE STILL PERCEIVE WITH THIS, YOU'RE, WE'RE ALREADY OVER CAPACITY FOR THIS SECTION AND IT'S THE CONGESTION'S GONNA INCREASE.
UM, WE KEEP THE TRAFFIC HERE AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CONNECTIVITY, UH, FOR THIS SECTION.
SO TWO THROUGH FOUR, WE'RE NOT DOING THE BEAUFORT HIGH SCHOOL REALIGNMENT.
WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE TRAFFIC FOR THE SCHOOL WITHIN THIS SEGMENT FROM WOODS MEMORIAL BRIDGE TO 8 0 2, UH, WE'VE GOT INCREASED ACCESS MANAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR.
WE'RE STILL IMPROVING THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES, BUT WE'VE INCREASED DISPLACEMENT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO IMPACT MORE BUILDINGS AND BUSINESSES HERE.
UM, AND YOU'LL SEE LATER ON WHY THERE IS A RANGE BETWEEN THREE, FIVE TO NINE FOR THIS.
UM, SO, AND THEN AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THE INCREASED CONNECTIVITY WITH ANOTHER ROAD BY ELIMINATE THE REALIGNMENT.
SO WITH THE REALIGNMENT, AGAIN, THIS IS THE SCHOOL ATTENDANCE AREA.
IT'S OLIVE LADIES ISLAND, ALL OF THE OUTER SEA ISLANDS, PLUS A PORTION OF THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL.
THESE WERE ALL THE OPTIONS WE CONSIDERED AND WE'VE KIND OF NARROWED IT DOWN TO WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN BEFORE, WHICH IS FOUR AND FIVE, FOUR WOULD BE A BRAND NEW ROADWAY THAT COMES ACROSS FROM YEMEN'S OVER TO LADIES ISLAND DRIVE.
IT ALIGNS WITH HAZEL FARM ROAD, WHICH WOULD THEN CONNECT WITH GAY BACK OVER TO SEA ISLAND PARKWAY.
WE CREATE ONE INTERSECTION, UH, IT BRINGS THE TRAFFIC IN FOR THE SCHOOL DIRECTLY TO THE SCHOOL.
UM, WE ACTUALLY STILL CREATE IMPROVEMENT, UM, ALONG A PORTION OF CHE ROAD, BACK TO THE SCHOOL'S ENTRANCE, BACK TO SEATTLE ISLAND TO THE BUSINESS SECTION OF 21, BUT IT IT'S CONVERTED TO RIGHT.
AND RIGHT OUT ON 21 BUSINESS, UM, WE ARE DOING BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES, UH, ON ALL OF THESE.
SO WE'RE IMPROVING THE CONNECTIVITY THERE TO THE SCHOOL FOR ANY KIDS THAT NEED TO WALK.
AND THE OTHER COMPONENT IS WE'VE TRIED TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO CRYSTAL LAKE PARKS, BUT WE ARE STILL GETTING ONE PARCEL THERE AND WHERE YOU HAVE THE CUR RIGHT THERE.
SO ALL THE OTHER PARCELS, WE ARE NOT TOUCHING EXCEPT THAT ONE.
SO THEN ALTERNATE FIVE, WHICH EVERYBODY HAS SAID, LET'S, UH, GET OVER TO OI.
THIS ACTUALLY LOOKED AT CREATING A SMOOTHER TRANSITION FROM CAROLYN DRIVE TO RU BOY CREATING MORE OF A THROUGH MOVEMENT AND THE CONNECTIVITY TO HAZEL FARM ROAD, UH, BACK AROUND IT'S ALONG A PROJECT.
WE'RE ALSO STILL HITTING CRYSTAL LAKE PARK AND AT CRYSTAL LAKE PARK, WE'RE ALSO IMPACTING THE BUILDING WITH IT.
UM, SO THIS ONE ACTUALLY HAS MORE IMPACTS WE'RE, UH, RELOCATING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALSO WITH IT AND MORE IMPACTS TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA.
SO FROM THERE, WHERE ARE WE WITH PROJECT? AND I CAN NOT, CAN I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? SURE.
BRIAN CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE PLEASE? BRAD.
YOU SEE HOW YOU, UH, RUN THAT RED LINE RIGHT OVER THE TOP OF THE CRYSTAL LAKE PARK, UH, WELCOME CENTER.
WHY COULDN'T YOU MOVE THAT TO THE EXISTING INTERSECTION AND HAVE IT, HAVE IT MOVE DOWN A LITTLE BIT? WHY DOES THE NEW RUTA BOY ENTRANCE HAVE TO BE THERE INSTEAD OF WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS? WE'RE CREATING THAT SMOOTHER TRANSITION FOR A SINGLE INTERSECTION.
IF WE STAY WITH EXISTING RUTA BOY TRYING TO COME ACROSS, WE COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT THE BANK, UM, EXISTING CAROLYN DRIVE, GOING AROUND THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
IF YOU STAY OUT ON THE EXISTING ROADWAY, IT'S TWO 90 DEGREE CURVES TO
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A T INTERSECTION.UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE ALIGNMENT SMOOTHER BECAUSE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'VE GOT POSING TRAFFIC COMING UP AND PUTTING MORE TRAFFIC FROM HAZEL FARM DOWN THERE, UM, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S A VERY SMOOTH TRANSITION THERE, RIGHT? BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE, UM, AT THE EXISTING STRUCTURE OF THOSE ROADWAYS AND RU A BOY IS RELATIVELY CLOSE.
IF YOU RIGHT WHERE YOUR CURSOR IS, IF YOU MOVE THAT DIRECTLY ACROSS THAT, UM, LADIES ISLAND DRIVE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A ROADWAY THERE ALREADY.
THERE IS, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION ANGLE OF HOW IT'S CROSSING LADIES ISLAND DRIVE TO MEET S C D O T STANDARDS.
SO YOU, SO YOU'VE GOT AN ANGLE WITH THAT.
WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE TRAFFIC THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
SO YOUR CURVATURE WITH THE ALIGNMENT, BASICALLY YOU MAY AS WELL STAY WITH THE 90 DEGREE CURVES WITH, UH, CAROLYN DRIVE TO RUTA BOY IN A STOP CONDITION BECAUSE OF IT.
UM, I CAN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE, THE RADIUS OF THAT, THAT, BUT IT'S WITHIN THE STANDARDS TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION AND MAKE IT SMOOTH COMING AROUND.
OTHERWISE YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY BRINGING IT UP AND YOU'RE WITH A 90 DEGREE CURVE WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC.
AND THEN YOU ALSO ARE, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE QUICK CLEAR LINE OF CLEAR LINE OF SIGHT WITH, UM, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
JENNIFER, JENNIFER, TAKE, TAKE A SECOND.
WELL, IT'S, I'M NOT DRIVING THE MOUSE.
JARED'S KIND OF THINK TRYING TO DRIVE OVER THERE, BUT IT, AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO EXPLAIN VIRTUALLY HERE.
I, I GUESS JENNIFER, CAN YOU HEAR ME ALRIGHT? YES, SIR.
SO DO YOU SEE WHERE THE RED LINE FROM CAROLYN DRIVE COMES AROUND? MAKES A SWEEPING LEFT HAND TURN TOWARDS JUDY'S DRIVE? WHY COULDN'T WE JUST EXTEND THROUGH THAT ONE PROPERTY WE'RE ALREADY TAKING, UH, FULLY HALF OF IT, EXTEND IT STRAIGHT DOWN TO RUTER BOY AND MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN ONTO RUTER BOY, AND THEN GO STRAIGHT ACROSS WE'RE PRESERVING, YOU KNOW, THE MOMENTUM OF TRAFFIC.
I CAN, I CAN SEE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT CROSSING OVER AT, AT A RELATIVELY ODD ANGLE, BUT I THINK IT, UH, PRESERVES AN ASSET THAT WE'VE ALREADY GROWN TO LOVE WITH CRYSTAL LAKE PARK, UH, WELCOME CENTER AND THAT WHOLE, THE WHOLE PARK, UM, PATH CETERA.
RIGHT? SO THAT'S RIGHT NOW WHERE THE BOY IS ACTUALLY A SKEWED INTERSECTION.
UM, AND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS IS, AGAIN, YOU'RE BEING SKEWED THIS WAY FOR TRAFFIC.
SO THEN WHEN YOU TRY AND PUT A CURVE IN TO MAKE IT THE SMOOTH TRANSITION, NOW WE'RE NOT GONNA BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STANDARDS BETWEEN THE CURVE TO THAT INTERSECTION AT THE SAME MOMENT, WE'RE TRYING TO GO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION BACK AROUND THE HAZEL FARM.
SO YOU'VE GOTTA WORK ALL OF IT TOGETHER IN THERE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH, OKAY, WE'RE ALMOST THERE, BUT THE MORE WE BRING IT AWAY, THE WORSE IT ACTUALLY GETS ON MEETING STANDARDS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ANGLE CROSSING LADIES ISLAND DRIVE AND BRINGING THESE TWO PLUS WITH THOSE CURVES IN THE DISTANCE TO THAT NEW INTERSECTION.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME NOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING HERE? OKAY.
SO IF WE DID NOTHING BASICALLY, WOULD THAT BE DROPPING BACK TO THE LADIES ISLAND PLAN AND, AND ALTERNATIVE ONE FOR THE MOST PART? SO ALTERNATIVE ONE AND I CAN'T READ THE NUMBERS HERE.
UM, ALTERNATIVE ONE IS ACTUALLY I PUT IT ON THE FAR RIGHT NEXT TO THE BEAUFORT HIGH SCHOOL, BECAUSE I CAN'T READ THAT GLASSES.
I'M GONNA GO OFF A MEMORY HERE.
ALTERNATE ONE IS ACTUALLY AROUND 42 MILLION.
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SO AGAIN, THIS IS ENTIRE PROJECT COST.AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS IT'S NOT JUST THE SECTION FROM WOODS MEMORIAL BRIDGE UPDATE TO, IT INCLUDES 21 GOING EAST TO CAPTURE THE SECTION GOING OUT TOWARDS WALMART.
IT'S ALSO, UH, LADIES ISLAND DRIVE SAM'S POINT S SC TO SAM'S POINT.
SO WE'RE GOING FROM RUTA BOY TO MILLER DRIVE WEST ON BOTH OF THOSE TWO CORRIDORS.
SO THE ENTIRE PROJECT COSTS ARE 42 MILLION.
THIS ASSUME THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR EVERYTHING, THIS AND ALL OF THESE INCLUDE UNDERGROUNDING OR RELOCATING UTILITIES AS WELL.
PLUS THE CONSTRUCTION PLUS THE ENGINEERING FEES THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN INTO IT FOR.
SO WITH ALTERNATE ONE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 42 WITH THREE DISPLACEMENT WITH 30 MILLION IN HAND FROM THE REFERENDUM, RIGHT.
SO WE'RE ACTIVELY SEARCHING FOR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES SURE.
AND PURSUING GRANTS TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE PROJECTS ALTERNATES 2, 3, 4, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE WIDENING.
THEY ALL VERY SLIGHTLY, BUT THEY'RE ALL AROUND THE SAME PROJECT COSTS.
AND THE VARIATION COMES IN WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY.
HOW MANY ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES ARE WE IMPACTING? UM, HOW MANY DISPLACEMENT DO WE POTENTIALLY HAVE EVERYTHING, ALL THREE OF THOSE ALSO IMPACT THE BOAT LANDING.
SO AT WHITE HALL, UM, WITH NINE PARKING SPACES, PART OF THE SPACES COULD BE SALVAGED, BUT THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, CARS PARKING THERE, NOT NECESSARILY A TRUCK WITH A TRAILER MM-HMM
AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, ALTERNATE FOUR AND FIVE FOR BEAVER HIGH SCHOOL, EIGHT TO 16, AGAIN, THE 16 MILLION INCLUDES HAVING TO REBUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT CRYSTAL LAKE PARK FOR HITTING THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING LOT AND, AND EVERYTHING THERE.
PLUS IT'S ACTUALLY MORE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING A LONGER DISTANCE WITH IT.
CAN YOU PUT ALTERNATE ONE UP ON THE, SO THE PUBLIC AND EVERYONE CAN SEE IT AGAIN.
THIS WOULD INCLUDE THE IMPROVEMENTS, HAZEL FARM ROAD, LADIES ISLAND, MIDDLE, ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD STILL HAPPEN WITH YES, WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL FOR WORKING ON THOSE.
SO THAT'S HAZEL FARM GATE, LADIES ISLAND, MIDDLE SCHOOL ACCESS, SUNSET MILLER AIRPORT FAGE ROAD.
KEEP, BUT WE ONLY HAVE 30 MILLION AND WE NEED 12 MORE.
SO BASED UPON THE, JUST FOR THIS ONE, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THOSE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR MONEY REGARDLESS, RIGHT? WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL STUDY AND THE 30 MILLION THAT WAS PUT FORTH, AND YOU LOOK AT THE FINE PRINT FOR ALL THOSE ESTIMATES IN THE BACK OF THE STUDY, THEY DID NOT INCLUDE ANY RIGHT OF WAY ON ANY OF YOUR PROJECTS.
THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE UTILITIES.
SO REGARDLESS WE'RE LOOKING FOR MONEY, UM, WE'VE GOT A, SOME OF US LATER THIS WEEK HAVE A MEETING TO DISCUSS A POTENTIAL GRANT.
THAT'LL BE COMING OUT HERE SOON THROUGH S C D O T.
AND OF COURSE FOR THE MAINLINE CORRIDOR, UM, WE'VE GONE AFTER RATE TWO OR RAISE GRANT FUNDING TO DATE AND HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE ALSO ARE TALKING SOME OTHER THINGS FOR PURSUING FUNDS FOR IT TOO.
SO MAYBE JUST TO SUMMARIZE, SO BASICALLY ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, UM, IF WE DO NOTHING AND JUST WORK ON THE MAIN LINE, WE'RE AT 42 MILLION PLUS THE OTHER ROADS, THE SUNSET MILLER, HAZEL, UM, HAZEL FARM AND GAY AND SUCH, UM, ALL THE OPTIONS ON 21, WHETHER WE WIDE IN FOUR LANES ON THE, THE SECTION BETWEEN MERIDIAN, UM, AND BACK UP TO WALGREENS IS THE ROUGHLY EIGHT OR $9 MILLION, UM, OPTION FOUR, WHICH IS THE ONE GOING THROUGH CRYSTAL LAKE TO THE NORTH, THAT'S ABOUT $8 MILLION.
AND OPTION FIVE IS GOING TO THE SOUTH TO RUDI BOY, WHICH IS ABOUT, UM, 16 MILLION.
SO THE COST OF THE SAME, ALL EXCEPT OPTION FIVE OPTION, FIVE'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE.
THE DIFFERENCE IS, UM, HOW MANY IMPACTS, WHAT TYPE OF IMPACTS THAT YOU HAVE, EVERY ONE OF 'EM HAS AN IMPACT, JUST A DIFFERENT IMPACT.
AND THEN LASTLY, IF YOU DO NOTHING AND JUST GO WITH THE BASE MODEL AT 42 MILLION, UM, THE IMPACT IS THE TRAFFIC ABILITY.
SO YOU DON'T GAIN ANY TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT SECTION, BUT CAPACITY, CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, SO YOU DON'T, YOU, YOU, UM, YOU MEET SOME OF THE GOALS, BUT NOT ALL OF THE GOALS.
SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE, THE, THOSE ARE KIND OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS AND THE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
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IF I DON'T SAY IT, I KNOW ERIC WILL PROBABLY SAY IT IN A LITTLE BIT.UM, BUT WE ARE AT THE POINT FROM THE STAFF LEVEL THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A DECISION, UM, TO STAFF FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN ADVANCE THE PROJECT AND CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE DESIGN TO GET IT TO CONSTRUCTION.
UM, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, COMMENTS.
SO AM I OVERSIMPLIFYING IF I SAY THAT, THAT THE DO NOTHING IS TO PROCEED WITH MORE OR LESS THE LATE TRIAL PLAN, KNOWING THAT WE GOT SOME ISSUES TO WORK THROUGH, WE GOT SOME FUNDING ISSUES, BUT THAT, AND ALL THE OTHER OPTIONS WOULD COST MORE.
AND THE QUESTION OF BEFORE US IS A COUNCIL, IS, WOULD WE WANNA VOTE FOR ANY OF THOSE TO SUBSTITUTE FOR THE LADIES ISLAND PLAN, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS? AM I SIMPLIFYING THAT TOO MUCH? I THINK THAT'S PRETTY SQUARE.
ERIC, DID I SEE YOU WANTED TO SPEAK WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN GO THAT FAR TO SAY, DO NOTHING, UH, IMPLEMENTS THE LADIES ISLAND PLAN, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD HAVE TO REFER, UH, DEFER TO ROB MERCHANT, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.
WE JUST NEED YOU ALL TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT.
UH, TO TELL US WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, WANT US TO DO.
CAUSE WE'VE STUDIED THIS, UH, TO DEATH.
I'VE, WE'VE ALLOCATED A LOT OF COUNTY RESOURCES HERE AND WE'VE MADE ZERO PROGRESS ON THIS ISSUE.
SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE HAVE A FEW FOLKS FROM THE SPEAK TO US FROM THE I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS OF WHO REPRESENT LADIES ISLAND.
COUNCILMAN GLOVER AND COUNCILMAN SUMMERVILLE.
DO, CAN YOU SEE IT? I CAN SEE IT.
UM, I THINK, I THINK WE OWE IT TO STAFF AND, AND OUR CITIZENS TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE ACCESS POINT TO B HIGH SCHOOL.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN HOLDING UP SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS, LIKE, UM, I I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TAKE NO ACTION ON THE INTERSECTION OF NEWPORT HIGH SCHOOL AND 21 AND MOVE ON TO THE OTHER, I GUESS, SEVEN OR EIGHT, I GUESS THERE'S SEVEN OTHER PROJECTS.
AND, UM, AND RATHER THAN JUST DEBATE THIS ODD ITEM AU TEDIUM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE EVER GONNA GET A CONSENSUS TO DO ANY OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT INTERSECTION.
AND I THINK AS LONG AS WE KEEP DEBATING IT, IT'S JUST GONNA DRAG ON AND ON.
IT'S GONNA MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE PRODUCTIVE.
SO AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, I'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MERGE THAT WE TAKE MORE ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THE BT HIGH SCHOOL INTERSECTION.
THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE OTHER SEVEN PROJECTS.
AND CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME WHERE WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE HEARING YOU YORK? UM, LET ME, UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME A LITTLE BIT? YES.
UH, I HAVE RESERVATION ABOUT ALTERNATIVE FIVE AND I'VE SAID THAT CAUSE IT ACTUALLY GOES INTO THE AREA.
SO I, I DO HAVE PROBLEMS. THAT'S DISPLACING A LOT OF HOMES THERE.
UM, I, YOU COMFORT IN THE CRYSTAL LAKE OFF A HAZEL FARM ROAD.
UM, AND I HAVE STRONG FEELINGS TO SUPPORT
UH, I THINK AT THIS, ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION.
OKAY, PAUL, I THINK WE CAN HOLD ON YOUR MOTION UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE THE COMMENTS, BUT I THINK, UH, THAT'S WHAT, UH, WILL PROBABLY BE THE MOTION THAT'S COMING FORWARD.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA TAKE THE FIRST FIVE CUZ WE REALLY HAVE 15 MINUTES.
UM, OUR, UH, OUR DISCUSSION IS ABOUT, UH, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON MERIDIAN AND YOMAN AND HOW A VERBAL AGREEMENT THAT Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT.
NO TRAFFIC WOULD BE PUT ON MERIDIAN.
SO WE WOULD ASK FOR THE RESPECT OF THAT ALSO THE FACT THAT IF THESE TRAFFIC CIRCLES COULD BE EVALUATED, THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING INTO 'EM.
IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH MOST OF THEM, I'VE NEVER SEEN A TRAFFIC CIRCLE WHERE RESIDENTIAL HOMES ARE ACTUALLY IN THE CIRCLE ITSELF, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR TRAFFIC CALMING TO BEGIN WITH.
UM, AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD ASK THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE ENGINEERING OF THESE CIRCLES THAT MAYBE THEY'RE NOT THE BEST OPTION, WHICH WOULD LOWER COSTS ALSO JUST THAT, SO, OKAY.
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YOU.I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR 31 YEARS.
UH, MY HUSBAND AND I OWN COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON SEA ISLAND PARKWAY.
THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED IF IT'S WIDENED TO FOUR LANES, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO BOTTLENECK UP THE BRIDGE.
WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO IS LOOK FOR A LONG TERM SOLUTION, NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA LAST FOR JUST A COUPLE YEARS, BUT LOOK, 5, 10, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
HOW ARE WE GONNA GET LESS TRAFFIC OFF A HIGHWAY 21 AND 8 0 2? AND I ONLY SEE THIS HAPPENING WITH A BYPASS ALTERNATIVE ROAD.
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNTY COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK AT.
I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND LOOK AT THE FUTURE BECAUSE BEAUFORT WILL ONLY CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AND PUTTING A BANDAID ON A GUSHING WOUND WILL NOT HELP.
HI, I'M FATHER ANDREW TRAPP WITH ST.
AND I DEFINITELY DON'T ENVY Y'ALL BECAUSE I KNOW AS A PASTOR, YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY.
UM, IT'S A BAD SITUATION TO BE IN, BUT AGAIN, BASICALLY THE SAME CONCERNS THIS, UH, THIS OPTION FOUR CUTTING ALONG THE SIDE OF CRYSTAL LAKE WOULD CUT RIGHT THROUGH THE BACK PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY AND LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS WE COULD TELL, WOULD CUT OFF PART OF OUR SOCCER SCHOOL, SOCCER FIELD, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE OUR KIDS PLAY AND IT'S, UH, THAT'S VERY ALARMING TO US.
AND ALSO IT'S KIND OF FRUSTRATING AGAIN, BECAUSE WE, UM, LIKE Y'ALL SAID, YOU DID A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, A LOT OF INVESTIGATION PREPARING FOR THIS, BUT LAST MEETING Y'ALL SAID THAT YOU JUST HAD TALKED TO THE HIGH SCHOOL FINALLY AND THAT THEY DIDN'T, THEY WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF THAT OPTION.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN PART OF THE PREPARATION.
WELL, NO ONE HAS REACHED OUT FROM THE COUNTY TO TALK TO US TO HEAR OUR CONCERNS AS A CHURCH, AS A SCHOOL.
AND, UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOVE TO BE PART OF THAT PROCESS.
AND, UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW FROM THE LITTLE WE DO KNOW WE'D BE VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO A, A ROAD CUTTING RIGHT THROUGH THE BACK PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY.
HOW DO YOU FOLLOW THAT?
Y'ALL FOR GIVING ME A CHANCE TO SPEAK, BUT I, I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT NOT ONLY THE WIDENING OF HIGHWAY 21, BUT UH, SUNSET, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE IDEAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I DON'T REPRESENT ANYONE AND YOU DO.
UH, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE I SPEAK FOR A LOT OF FRIENDS HERE THAT CALL THE LOW COUNTRY HOME.
UM, I JUST WANNA ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY, UH, WHY IS THIS BODY EVEN ENTERTAINING, WIDENING A MILE OF THE HIGHWAY? WHY ARE WE WAITING TO WANTING TO SPEND MILLIONS A LOT OF MILLIONS? WHAT WAS THAT? 40 SOMETHING MILLION, UH, ON A STRETCH OF ROAD THAT FEW USE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, SUNSET, UM, AND THEY DON'T THE, THE SPEEDING PROBLEM THAT PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THERE IS NOT REALLY THERE.
WHY DO WE CONSIDER DESTROYING SO MANY BUSINESSES, UM, THAT LITERALLY CALL 21, THEIR FRONT DOOR.
THERE'S A LOT OF THEM IN HERE, UH, THAT ARE GONNA LOSE EITHER THEIR FRONT PARKING LOT, THEIR SIDE PARKING LOT OR BOTH.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT HIGHER GROUND AND BUTLER LOOK DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER, YOU CAN'T PUT ANOTHER LANE OF TRAFFIC THERE WITHOUT AFFECTING BOTH OF THEM.
UM, UH, WHY ARE WE, UH, WHY DO WE BELIEVE THAT RESIDENTS WANNA WALK FROM STER VILLAGE TO THE MARINA? UM, THANKS.
HELENA TO SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY AND EVACUATIONS WHEN WE'VE REDUCED HIGHWAY 21 BACK TO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION AT WALMART, UH, WHY DO WE AGREE TO, TO WHITE HALL PROPERTY? WHEN WE NOW SEE THAT THE PRIORITY IS THEM BUILDING A NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT OUR ACCESS TO A PARK, UH, WHY DO WE PAY TAX DOLLARS TO BUILD A FOOT BRIDGE TO THE PARK THAT WE CAN'T EVEN ENJOY FOR ANOTHER YEAR, WE'RE SITTING HERE, WE DRIVE HOME EVERY NIGHT AND WE SEE THAT BRIDGE.
THAT'S SITTING NEXT TO THE, THE ROAD AND IT'S GOT A TWO BY FOUR ACROSS THE DOOR.
UH, WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND RAISE MEDIANS? WHEN EVERYBODY'S ANSWER IS A TRAFFIC IS, IS, IS, IS A TRAFFIC CIRCLE WHEN POTHOLES CAN BE FIXED A LOT MORE EFFECTIVELY.
UM, WE'RE FOCUSING ON A SECTION OF ROAD WHERE A FATAL, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUNSET, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A SECTION,
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A ROAD WHERE A FATAL ACCIDENT HASN'T OCCURRED IN A DECADE OR WHERE A SIDEWALKS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.UM, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU DEVOTED ONE 10TH OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING, I'M SORRY, SIR.
WE'D PROBABLY GET A LOT MORE PEOPLE.
WE, WE PROBABLY GET A LOT MORE PEOPLE SLOWING DOWN AND WE REDUCE THE PROBLEM AREAS.
UM, WE JUST WANNA KNOW WHY, UH, WE, WE, WE LOOK INTO PAPER AND WE SEE ALL OF A SUDDEN WE SEE THAT THE HEADLINE SAYS HIGHWAY 21, 4 LANE APPROVED.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND.
WE NEED MORE INPUT FROM YOU GUYS AND YOU GUYS NEED MORE INFO FROM US.
UH, LAST COMMENT THAT NEIL LIPSY, IS IT NEIL S IT LIPS.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOW ME TO SPEAK.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, OPTION ZERO, YOU GAVE IT THE RIGHT NAME ZERO, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT ACCOMPLISHES ZERO.
UM, IT CREATES BOTTLENECKS BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS ARE GONNA BE DISPLACED.
ONE THAT COMES TO MIND, BUTLER MARINE, THEY MOVE TO CREATE, SO CRYSTAL PARK CAN BE CREATED, AND THEN NOW THEY'RE BEING THREATENED AGAIN, NOT RIGHT.
ANOTHER THING IS THE LADIES' ISLAND VILLAGE PLAN.
WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND REALLY LOOK AT THE VILLAGE PLAN.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THAT, UH, CITY COUNCIL BEFORE I WAS ON THERE, UH, COUNTY COUNCIL, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS WORKING ON IT, AND WE NEED TO GO BACK THERE IN JUST A SIMPLER PLAN.
UH, FINALLY PLAYGROUNDS, UH, GOING THROUGH A PLAYGROUND.
WE NEED TO CREATE MORE PLAYGROUNDS, NOT LESS.
I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SACRED GROUND AND THIS ONE, ESPECIALLY SACRED.
UH, I JUST INSULTED, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'D EVEN THINK ABOUT GOING THROUGH A PLAYGROUND, BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
AND I KNOW YOU GOT A TOUGH DECISION AHEAD, AND LIKE I SAID, PLEASE LOOK AT THE LADIES ISLAND VILLAGE PLAN.
THAT'S REALLY THE BEST WAY TO GO.
LET'S BRING IT BACK TO THE DIAS.
AND, UH, UM, AT THIS POINT WE'LL GO BACK TO DISCUSSION AND, UH, PAUL, IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION FINE, IF THERE'S SOME OTHER DISCUSSION FIRST, THAT'S FINE TOO.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO WANNA MAKE A MOTION THAT FAIRLY SIMPLE.
UH, MY MOTION IS THAT WE TAKE NO ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THE INTERSECTION OF THE HIGH SCHOOL ACCESS ON 21.
IS THERE A SECOND FOR PAUL'S MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM THE CHAIRMAN, UM, DULY, UH, SECONDED, UM, OPEN IT UP FOR, UH, DISCUSSION MEMBERS OF, UH, COUNCIL.
JUST PAUL, CAN I, PAUL, CAN I GET YOU TO, UH, RESTATE YOUR MOTION ONE MORE TIME? I THINK I MISSED PART OF IT.
I SAID MY MOTION IS THAT WE, THAT WE MOVE TO MY MOTION IS THAT WE TAKE NO ACTION TO RESPECT TO THE INTERSECTION OF BUFORD HIGH SCHOOL AND, UH, HIGHWAY 21, UH, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE NINE PROJECTS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
TAKE NO ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THAT, THAT MY JOB BY SO DOING, YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA DO OPTION FOUR, OPTION FIVE OR OPTION ZERO.
UH, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED THAT WE'RE NOT STILL DEBATING THAT ONE.
MY MOTION IS WE'RE NO LONGER DEBATING IT FOR MOVING FORWARD ON THE OTHER, ON THE OTHER PROJECTS AND TAKING NO ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THAT INTERSECTION.
THANK YOU SO CLEAR, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'LL SUPPORT THAT MOTION.
I I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN, HANG ON JUST A SECOND.
LET'S LET'S MAKE SURE WE, WE CLARIFY IT, UM, TO CLARIFY THAT YEAH, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANY CHANGES TO, TO, IF I UNDERSTOOD PAUL'S MOTION, IT WOULD BE TO NOT DO ANY OF THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
0 4, 5 1, 2 OR THREE PER SE, FOR THE ENTRY, BUT THAT HE, WE CONTINUE WITH THE OTHER SEVEN PROJECTS THAT WERE PART OF THE LADIES ISLAND PLANT.
DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY FALL? UH, Y YOU DID.
BRIAN, DID I SEE YOUR, YOU HAD ANOTHER COMMENT OR NO, THAT WAS, THAT WAS ALL I NEEDED TO HEAR.
GOT HAND, GOTTA HAND THE AUDIENCE IF YOU'RE ENTERTAINING THERE.
NO, WE'RE, WE'RE BACK TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT.
UM, THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE WORK.
WE, WE DON'T GO BACK AND FORTH WHEN WE'RE IN DISCUSSION.
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JOE? NO, CHRIS YORK.SEEING, UH, WE HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS, UH, WE'RE READY TO VOTE.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION AT THIS POINT FROM ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL RELATIVE TO THIS, UH, MOTION SAYING THAT I DON'T HAVE, I HAVE AN OBJECTION.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FOR STAFF, IF THEY COULD, WITH THIS MOTION MOVING FORWARD, HOW WOULD WE ADDRESS THE INCREASING PROBLEM FACING? I SEE HIGHWAY 21 QUESTION IS FROM YOUR, UM, HOW WOULD WE, IF WE DO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, HOW WOULD WE ADDRESS THE INCREASING TRAFFIC ON 21? UM, JARED, I DUNNO IF I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT, UH,
UH, YORK ASKED WHETHER IF WE GO WITH WHAT'S MOTIONED, HOW, HOW WOULD WE BE ADDRESSING THE INCREASING TRAFFIC ON 21? IF YOU GO WITH, UM, DON'T DO ANYTHING AS FAR AS THE HIGH SCHOOL AND NOTHING IN BETWEEN THE BRIDGE AND LADIES ALLEN DRIVE, THEN YOU'RE NOT ADDRESSING IT AT ALL.
THERE, THERE IS NO FEASIBLE WAY.
UM, ONE POSSIBLE WAY, B BASED OFF A COMMENT, IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE WAY, BUT POTENTIAL LONG TERM WAY IS TO COORDINATE WITH LATS.
AND THERE'S BEEN STUDIES BEFORE, BUT TO CONTINUE TO SEARCH FOR A, ANOTHER OPTION, UH, A THIRD BRIDGE TO LADIES ISLAND, THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY, BUT THAT IS THAT THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT A IMMEDIATE WAY, A SHORT TERM WAY, NO FUNDING WAY, BUT THAT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATE WAY.
UM, ONE QUESTION I WOULD ASK FOR COUNCIL JUST TO CLARIFY ON THE MOTION IS, UM, THE NEW, NOTHING IN REGARDS TO BEAUFORD HIGH SCHOOL, WE WOULD, WOULD THAT MOTION INCLUDE THAT WE STILL DO THE IMPROVEMENTS ON LADIES ISLAND DRIVE, UM, FROM RUDA BOY AND SUN TO MILLER AS WELL AS 21 FROM, FROM WALGREENS OUT TO WALMART.
JUST NOT THE SECTION FROM WALGREENS BACK TO THE BRIDGE.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF PAUL'S MOTION.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, SECOND SECONDARY QUESTION TO THAT.
UM, SO THAT'S DOING NO TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, OR AESTHETIC COMPONENTS OR UTILITY COMPONENTS.
WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED IN THAT SECTION AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE SECTION? YES.
UM, AND THERE MAY BE SOME EASEMENT SLASH RIGHT AWAY, UM, COMPONENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
NOT AS MUCH, BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO AT A LATER DATE TO COUNCIL TO SHARE WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD ENTAIL AS FAR AS IMPACTS.
SO THERE COULD BE RUNNING IMPROVEMENTS AND THERE ALSO COULD BE THINGS THAT WE EVENTUALLY DECIDE TO PUT IN A TRANSPORTATION REFERENDUM IF MORE THAN LIKELY WE'LL DO IN 24.
AND ALSO JUST, UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT THE ALTERNATIVE FOR AN ADDITIONAL ROAD WITH A THIRD BRIDGE, UH, THAT WOULD VIOLATE LADIES ISLAND PLAN.
UH, THE LADIES ISLAND PLAN, A LOT OF THINGS, UH, ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, UH, IN THIS AREA VIOLATE LADIES ISLAND PLAN, BUT THAT WOULD BE ONE OF 'EM THE LADIES ISLAND PLAN SPECIFICALLY SPEAKS TO TRYING TO POSTPONE THE NEED FOR A THIRD BRIDGE FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE POSSIBLE.
SO WE HAVE BEFORE US A MOTION DULY SECONDED, UM, I'VE SEEN NO OBJECTIONS AT THIS POINT, UH, ARE ALTHOUGH YORK, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE AN OBJECTION TO IT? I, I WILL.
UM, AND I'M SIMPLY NOT, UH, RIGHT NOW SUPPORTING ANYTHING.
UM, AT THIS TIME, SO I VOTE NO TO THE, OKAY.
SO WE, WE BASICALLY HAVE, UM, 10, FOUR AND ONE AGAINST, I BELIEVE EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD.
UH, SO, UM, THE MOTION CARRIES NINE ONE, UH, AS, AS WE PREVIOUSLY STATED AND, UH, THAT, UH, WILL, WILL TAKE US FORWARD.
DOESN'T MEAN WE WON'T CONTINUE TO WORK THE WORK, THE ISSUES, BUT IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, I, I VIEW IT AS RESOLVED FOR THE TIME BEING, UM, I'M SURE ALL OF YOU DON'T WANNA STAY FOR THE, THE REST OF YOUR MEETING, ALTHOUGH YOU'RE WELCOME TO, BUT IF, IF A LOT OF YOU'RE LEAVING WILL TAKE JUST A MINUTE AND LET YOU LET YOU GO.
AND THEN WE'LL, UH, RESUME OUR MEETING.
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OKAY.I DON'T KNOW HIS COMPUTER'S THERE.
MAYBE HE'S WATCHING AT SOMETHING HE MAY HAVE HAD TO TAKE A CALL OR SOMETHING THAT TURN THEM OFF.
WE, UH, CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
UM, WE GOT A COUPLE QUICK ITEMS THAT WE'LL TAKE CARE OF.
[9. BROAD RIVER FISHING PIER UPDATE]
NINE IS THE BROAD RIVER FISHING PIER.UM, JARED, YOU GOT AN UPDATE ON THAT FOR US, WHATEVER YOU CAN TAKE CARE.
SO I'LL TEE IT UP AND THEN GIVE IT TO NEIL.
NEIL'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERS ON THIS.
UM, BUT JUST SO EVERYBODY'S UP TO DATE.
THIS WAS DISCUSSED SOME TIME AGO.
UM, I PROBABLY WAS IT EARLIER THIS YEAR OR, UH, LAST YEAR, NOVEMBER.
SO LAST YEAR IN NOVEMBER, IT WAS DISCUSSED.
AND BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE IS A, A DRYING PI BASICALLY IT'S IN, IS STAGE OF CANCER AND WE ARE JUST MANAGING HOW WE, UM, TREAT THAT BRI OR THAT FISHING PI.
UM, EACH YEAR WE DO AN INSPECTION TO SEE HOW MUCH CONCRETE FALLS OFF AND THAT'S HOW WE MEASURE, HOW, HOW QUICKLY IT'S DYING.
UM, SO IT'S, THERE'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE THERE.
AT SOME POINT, WE'VE GOTTA DEAL WITH IT AND DEMO THAT BRIDGE OR REHAB IT IN SOME SHAPE.
THERE WERE SEVERAL OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED, UH, IN NOVEMBER WITH THE OPTION THAT THAT COUNTY COUNCIL SELECTED AND, AND GAVE STAFF, UM, DIRECTION IS TO REPLACE THE, OR DEMO THE BRIDGE, REPLACE THE BRIDGE WITH RIGHT NOW, THE, THE, AND PIER IS 1800 FOOT AND LENGTH, UM, AND THEN REPLACE THE BRIDGE WITH A 900 FOOT PIER.
UM, SO SINCE THEN WE'VE DONE SOME DUE DILIGENCE ON THAT, AND WE'VE GOT SOME OPTIONS.
UM, AND NEIL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL AS WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.
SO, NEIL, THANK YOU, JARED, UH, AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN AND REST THE COMMITTEE, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A RECAP FROM THE NOVEMBER, 2020 MEETING, THE ALTERNATIVE F HYBRID WAS OUTLINED IN THE MC SWEENEY REPORT, UH, THAT WAS A PRO, UH, VOTED ON WITHOUT OBJECTIONS.
AND WE STARTED TO MOVE ON INTO WHAT WE CONSIDER THE, UH, THE MEAT OF THE PROJECT.
SO TO SAY, PHASE ONE WAS, IS, IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY WITH SURVEYING AND SOUL BORINGS IS COMPLETE.
UH, THIS PHASE ONE, JUST TO REMIND YOU GUYS IS WITH THE EIGHT AND H TAX OF 114 K TO MOVE FORWARD.
UH, IN ADDITION, THE BAROMETRY, WHICH IS THE SURVEY, UH, THAT HAPPENS, OR THE SOUNDING THAT HAPPENS IN THE RIVER IS COMPLETE GRANT RESEARCH IS COMPLETE AT THIS TIME.
WE COULD NOT FIND ANY GRANT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
SO BORINGS AND INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETE AS WELL.
UH, THE ENGINEER HAS ALSO COMPLETED THE PILE ANALYSIS AS WELL.
UH, WE'VE STARTED PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING CALCULATIONS TO DATE.
AND IN ADDITION, WE'VE STARTED TALKING TO ALL THE REGULATORY AGENCIES, WHICH INCLUDES DNR D HECK AND AS WELL AS O UH, DON OCR, UH, ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR PERMITTING PROCESS, JUST TO START THE PROCESS.
UM, IN ADDITION, WE'VE DONE SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING AND LOOKING IN ALL THAT, AND WE'VE STARTED TALKING WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES TO HOW TO ACCOMMODATE HOW WE CAN GET AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE, AS OPPOSED TO PEDESTRIAN LOADS.
UH, WE HAVE CAME UP WITH THE CONCEPT OF INCLUDING A UTV ON SITE AND WE'LL HOUSE THAT IN KIND OF A GARAGE OR SECURED AREA.
AND THAT'LL KIND OF, UH, MEET THE NEEDS FOR IF THERE'S ANY EMERGENCY RESPONSE OUT ON THE PIER AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
UM, THERE WAS FOUR GEOMETRIC LAYOUTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED OF KIND OF PUT IN OPTION ONE, SARAH, THERE'S A LAYOUT IF YOU COULD.
SO THIS LAYOUT IS THE ONE THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING FOR, UH, YOU GUYS TO TAKE A VOTE ON AT THIS POINT, THIS OPTION COMPLETELY GETS US OUT OF THE D O T RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, IT ALSO HAS THE BEST PARKING LAYOUT, AND IT'S ALSO IN A LOCATION WHERE WE WON'T GET ANY OF THE IMPACTS FROM THE SCOUR OR THE WAVE ACTION FROM THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
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UH, MINIMAL, MINIMAL DE DEGRADATION TO THIS POTENTIALLY NEW PEER, UH, WHICH WOULD OBVIOUSLY KEEP IT IN LIFE AND SERVICE LONGER.A COUPLE THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF IN THE PLANNING STAGES IS A DEMO WITH THE SITE CONTRACTOR OR POTENTIAL SITE CONTRACTOR.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, DETERMINATION OF THE QUANTITIES FOR THE NEW PEER.
UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE DEMOLITION VOLUME TO BE COMPLETED.
AND ONE OF THE CURRENT PLANS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TO USE THE EXISTING SUBSTRUCTURE OF, OF THE PIER, THE PILES AND THE CAPS, AND TO LAY IT AROUND THE NEW FISHING AREA, TO CREATE SOME HABITAT ENVIRONMENT FOR THE NEW FISH, TO MAYBE WHATNOT, AND MAYBE HELP GROWTH THAT AND FOSTER SOME OF THAT.
UM, WE PLAN TO DRAG OUT THE SUPER STRUCTURE ONTO THE HIGH SIDE OR UP ON THE HILL, LOOK TO CRUSH THE CONCRETE AND RECYCLE THE SEAL, THE STEEL, AND THEN USE THE CRUSH CONCRETE TO BUILD UP SOME OF THE PARKING AREA.
IN SOME OF THIS PROJECT, THAT'S ALL GONNA REDUCE OUR COSTS AND FOR TRANSPORTATION AND, AND WHATNOT TO, TO MOVE OUT OF THE SITE.
UM, SO THIS PLAN KIND OF HAS POTENTIAL TO OFFER CONSIDERABLE SAVINGS IN BOTH THE DEMO AND THEN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD.
THIS PLAN ALSO IS LOOKING AT THE PHASE TWO, WHICH WOULD THEN BE THE NEW PEER CONSTRUCTION FINAL PERMITTING PROCESS.
AS I TALKED ABOUT WITH THE AGENCIES THAT I LISTED AND THEN DETERMINING THE CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE, AND THEN FINALLY THE PEER DEMOLITION, AND THAT WOULD BE KIND OF PHASE TWO, WHICH IS CURRENTLY FUNDED BY A AND H TAX.
SO AT THIS TIME I'M RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE SAID PHASE TWO COMPONENTS, AS WELL AS THE NEW PEER AS OUTLINED UP ON THE BOARD, WHICH IS OPTION ONE.
AND I'M ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
UH, THAT'S USED BY THE PUBLIC QUITE A BIT AND WE'LL, AND WITH THIS NEW ONE, IT WON'T BE USED EVEN MORE.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION BEING, BEING MY DISTRICT.
UM, SO, SO WHAT THIS MOTION WOULD BE IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ALTERNATIVE, UM, AND APPLY FOR.
SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE HAVE FUNDED IS PRELIMINARY PHASE ONE.
SO ALL THIS DUE DILIGENCE WORKS AND PRELIMINARY DESIGN LAYOUT.
UM, THIS WOULD BE, WE WOULD APPLY FOR PHASE TWO FOR THE FINAL ENGINEERING DESIGN AND A AND H TAX, WHICH IS ABOUT $230,000.
SO WE'LL MAKE THAT APPLICATION, UM, AND BASED OFF THIS ALTERNATIVE, DESIGN IT, AS YOU SEE, HOWEVER, WHAT WE DO NOT HAVE, AND WHAT'S NOT PART OF THIS MOTION, AND IT CAN BE A LATER DETERMINATION IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS.
SO THE CONSTRUCTION, AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR, THIS IS PROBABLY IN THE 8 MILLION RANGE.
UM, DURING THE FINAL DESIGN AND ANALYSIS, WE'LL HAVE UPDATED COST ESTIMATE PERFORMED, BUT ALL THIS MOTION WILL BE, IS FOR US TO PROCEED WITH THE FINAL DESIGN.
AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AS WE'RE NEARING THE END OF DESIGN TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE IT DESIGNED AND IT'S READY ON THE SHELF.
DO YOU WANT TO FUND IT IN A BUDGET OR, OR BONDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? SO, SO IT'LL BE SHOVEL READY, FUNDED FROM HOSPITALITY TAXES.
UM, OTHER COMMENTS, IF I MIGHT, UH, JARED NEIL, UM, THE ORIGINAL, WHAT WAS THE LENGTH OF THE ORIGINAL PIER? THE, THE, THE CURRENT PIER IS EIGHT, UH, UH, APPROXIMATELY 1800 FEET.
AND, AND THIS IS, WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 900, ABOUT HALF THE SIZE, BUT HALF, HALF THE LENGTH.
HALF THE LENGTH, UM, THAT PUTS US OUT.
IT PUTS US OUT THIS CURRENT PROPOSED PIER PUTS US OUT TO A FAVORABLE, UH, FISHING CONDITION, CUZ THERE'S SOME FLATS THAT ARE KIND OF AT THE BASE OF THE, AT THE BASE OF THE, UH, PROPOSED AND THE EXISTING.
SO IT'D BE OPTIMAL FOR FOLKS THAT FISH WELL, THAT, THAT THAT'S THE POINT I WAS GETTING TO IT BECAUSE AT LOW TIDE, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE, UH, PIER IS ACTUALLY, UM, JUST COVERING THE, THE, THE MUD AND, AND UH, IF YOU DON'T EXTEND IT OUT, UM, ANY FURTHER THEN I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M CONCERNED THAT, UM, ON LOW TIDE, HALF OF THIS PI IS NOT GONNA BE A USABLE, BUT I'M, I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT UP TO NEXT EXPERTS.
OUR CONSULTANTS LOOKED AT THAT AND THAT'S WHY WE WENT OUT TO THE 900 TO ACHIEVE BETTER FISH ABILITY IF THAT'S A PROPER WORD.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH COMPLETE THE DESIGN, GET THE BID PACKAGE, READY, WHATEVER PERMITTING WE NEED.
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UM, DO WE NEED A SEPARATE RESOLUTION LATER ON TO GET HOSPITALITY TAX FUNDS? OR DO WE, DO WE INCLUDE THAT IN THIS MOTION? UM, WE INCLUDE IT IN THIS MOTION.SO THIS WOULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A DESIGN AND PURSUE, UH, A AND H APPLICATION.
CAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD REQUIRED THREE READINGS.
AS I REMEMBER OUR RULES AS A, DO WE NEED THREE READINGS FOR, TO APPLY FOR A PROJECT? I THINK SO.
I TO APPLY, BUT IF YOU WERE, IF, IF YOU WANTED TO PROCEED WITH THIS PROJECT, NOT DO THE APPLICATION NEED TO GO BE OR IF I NEED CAN AMEND.
SO, SO I GUESS WHAT HAYES IS SAID, IF YOU WANT TO USE GENERAL FUNDING AND DO IT, WE'D HAVE TO ADD IT TO THE, THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, OR IF WE WANNA PURSUE THE A H TASK, IT WOULD JUST BE PERMISSION TO APPLY.
AND WHAT, AND WHEN IT GETS TO COUNCIL, IT'S GONNA TAKE THREE READINGS ANYWAY.
SO WE'RE HOWEVER YOU ALL WANT TO, WELL, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS THREE READINGS.
IF WE WANT TO ATTACH IT TO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, OR IF WE JUST WANNA APPLY FOR THE A H TAX, IT'S JUST THE, UM, APPROVAL TO APPLY.
I THINK THOSE ARE THREE READINGS TOO.
IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT'S LET'S DO BOTH.
LET'S ATTACH IT TO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AND APPLY FOR THE A H TAX.
AND THEN IF WE GET IT FROM THE A H TAX AND WE DON'T HAVE TO USE THE BUDGET.
SO, SO THE MOTION IS TO MOVE IT FORWARD, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING, GET IT DONE.
AND STAFF WILL FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO FINANCE THE BALANCE OF THE ENGINEERING.
WE OKAY WITH THAT? ANYBODY DISAGREE? ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO.
UH, THIS STANDS APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION.
UM, ITEM NUMBER, EXPLAIN SOLID.
YOU WANT, SO PART OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, WE'RE USING A AND H TAX FUNDS, WHICH HAS TO GO THROUGH AN ORDINANCE, WHICH THROUGH READINGS, UH, THE READINGS IN A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO DO FOR USE FOR THE, FOR TO REDO THE, UM, THE ALL JOY LANDING AND TO, FOR PEER IMPROVEMENTS AND, UH, LIGHTING IN THE POCKET PARK.
SO YOU COULD ADD THIS, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO APPLY IT.
WE COULD JUST TACK IT ON THERE.
AND THEN, THEN GO AHEAD AND GET THIS THING DONE AND GET THIS PEER DONE.
AND I THINK THAT'S ACCEPTABLE AND YOU ALL CAN FIGURE OUT THE, SO I CAN ADD THAT TO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
[10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO AWARD RFQ#062222E ON-CALL CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT/CEI SERVICES]
10, UH, IS, IS THE ON CALL CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT? SURE.SO THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE BEFORE ON TWO OTHER CONTRACTS WITH TRAFFIC AND WITH TRANSPORTATION.
SO IN ADVANCE OF, UH, THE WOULD BE SALES TAX, TRANSPORTATION, SALES TAX, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, OPERATING IS A STANDARD FOR US TO HELP EXPEDITION, EXPEDITIOUSLY, UM, EXECUTE WORK.
SO THIS IS FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND C, WHICH IT'S BASICALLY INSPECTION SERVICES DURING THE LIFE OF A PROJECT CONSTRUCTION OF A PROJECT.
UM, SO WE PUT OUT A SOLICITATION IN MAY.
UH, WE RECEIVED 17 SUBMISSIONS, SO VERY POSITIVE OUT IN THE ENGINEERING, UM, ARENA, UH, WELL RECEIVED.
AND OUT OF THAT, WE HAD A FIVE MEMBER STAFF THAT QUALIFIED 'EM AND WENT THROUGH ALL THE PROPOSALS AND CAME UP WITH A TOP FIVE.
SO, UM, WE HAVE FIVE COMPANIES, F AND M E CONSULTANTS, HDR, ENGINEERING, ICE INFRASTRUCTURE, CONSULTANT, AND ENGINEERING, UH, MEAT AND HUNT, AND SEPPI ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION THAT WERE QUALIFIED AS THE HIGHEST RANKED PROPOSALS.
UM, AND SO WE WOULD OFFER THEM A CONTRACT AND THEN THEY WOULD BE BASICALLY ON THE SHELF UNTIL A PROJECT.
AND THEN AT THE TIME OF A PROJECT LIKE THE OTHER CONTRACTS, WE WOULD, UH, GET A PROPOSAL AND COME BACK WITH, UH, A PROPOSAL SCOPING FEEDBACK TO COUNCIL FOR AWARD PENDING PROCUREMENT, UM, THE, THE COST OF THE PROJECT.
UM, SO THIS WOULD BE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO RENEW FOR TWO, ONE YEAR, ONE YEAR CONTRACTS.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD BASICALLY JUST BE ON THE SHELF READY TO GO.
SO WHEN THERE'S A PROJECT READY TO DO, WHETHER IT'S NOW OR FUTURE SALES TAX, UM, WE WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF US.
IT'S PART OF THE CONTINUING WAY OF DOING BUSINESS WAY C, D O T DOES IT? I BELIEVE.
SO SC D O T HAS ABOUT, UH, EIGHT OR 10 DIFFERENT ON CALLS THAT SO THEY HAVE 'EM READY TO GO SO THEY CAN EXPEDITE THEIR WORK AS WELL.
THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED WITH THEIR AVAILABILITY AND THEIR SKILL SETS.
AND A LOT OF THE ONES THAT ARE ON D OTS ARE THE ONES THAT PROPOSED ON OUR, SO MIGHT LOOK FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THAT AWARD.
MAKE MOTION I'LL SECOND, THE MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, YOUR HONOR.
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WHEN THIS QUESTION WAS THE ROUGH, ROUGHLY THE LOCATIONS OF THE RECOMMENDED COMPANIES, THERE IS 1, 2, 3 THAT HAVE AN OFFICE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.NONE OF THEM ARE HEADQUARTERED IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
ALL OF THEM, UM, HAVE A MAJOR, UH, SOME OF 'EM ARE INTERNATIONAL, UH, NATIONAL FIRMS. SOME OF 'EM ARE SOUTHEAST.
SOME OF 'EM A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.
UM, ALL OF 'EM HAVE MAJOR OPERATIONS IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
UM, I THINK IF NOT ALL, MOST, ALL OF THEM HAVE DONE WORK IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
AND LIKE I SAID, THREE OF THEM HAVE A SATELLITE OFFICE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NONE THIS STANDS APPROVED AS, UH, RECOMMENDED THE NEXT ONE IS,
[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT FAA AIP GRANT 50 FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT (HXD) TERMINAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. (FISCAL IMPACT: FAA AIP Grant 50 is in the amount of $11,626,638. The AIP grant requires a local sponsor contribution in the amount of $1,162,663.80 (10%). That airport portion is built into the project budget)]
UH, ACCEPTANCE OF A FAA GRANT FOR THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT IN THE AMOUNT OF 1.16, 2000, UM, DOLLARS.AND, UH, JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORIES, UM, JOHN IS HERE.
I SAW YOU EARLIER THERE ABOUT 700 PEOPLE STANDING IN FRONT OF ME.
WELL, THEY WERE, AND THEN THEY, WE TOLD 'EM WE WERE GONNA PASS.
JOHN COMES US TO JUST ABOUT EVERY SESSION WITH, WITH MORE MONEY.
WELL, THIS IS THE, THE SECOND GRANT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR SO LONG THAT THE FAA HAD HAD SAID THAT WAS, UH, WAS COMING FOR THE TERMINAL PROJECT.
THE REASON IS THAT 10 MILLION STRAIGHT IS THAT THERE WAS SOME, EACH YEAR THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF GRANTS AVAILABLE TO THE AIRPORT.
AND THERE'S BEEN SOME GRANT MONEY BASICALLY SAVED IN OUR ACCOUNT THAT GETS APPLIED TO THIS.
SO THERE'S, WHAT'S CALLED ENTITLEMENT MONEY AND DISCRETIONARY MONEY THAT'S IN HERE.
THERE'S 10 MILLION DISCRETIONARY.
AND, UH, THE 1.6, TWO SIX IN, UH, IN ENTITLEMENT MONEY.
SO THAT HAS BEEN, UH, OFFERED BY THE FAA.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY GONE THROUGH THE ACCEPTANCE PROCESS WITH STAFF BECAUSE IT'S ELECTRONIC PROCESS.
UH, BUT IT DOES NEED TO COME TO YOU AND THEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR THE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT IT.
SO FORMALITY, UM, LOOK FOR A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THIS, UH, FAA GRANT.
ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR JOHN ON THIS GRANT? UM, SEEING NONE, ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NONE, JOHN, YOU'RE APPROVED TO ACCEPT THAT.
THIS BRINGS US TO THE OTHER MAJOR
[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ON THE US 278 CORRIDOR PROJECT]
ITEM THAT WE HAD ON THE AGENDA, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON, HEAD ON A MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING MEMO OF AGREEMENT ON THE U US 2 78 CORRIDOR PROJECT.UM, AND I THINK I MIGHT TAKE A MINUTE AND I'D LIKE TO DO THE SAME THING I DID WITH THE, UH, SEA ISLAND PIECE IS TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE, GET SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION GOING HERE, GET COMMENTS FROM THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE THAT WANT TO COMMENT, WANT TO COMMENT, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND SEE WHAT ACTION IT IS THAT WE, WE WANT TO TAKE.
BUT, UH, KIND OF A SUMMARY, I THINK OF WHERE WE ARE.
IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE IN, IN THE FIFTH YEAR, ABOUT TWO AND A HALF, ABOUT TWO TIMES WHAT IT TOOK TO GET FROM PEARL HARBOR TO DDAY PUT IT IN TIME PERSPECTIVE.
AND IT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS.
THERE'S A FEDERAL NEPA PROCESS.
UH, THERE WAS PEOPLE WANTED TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS DONE COMPANY CALLED HDR AND THERE WAS SOME GOOD THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF IT THAT, UH, THERE WERE ACCEPTED, ENROLLED INTO THE PROJECT.
THERE WAS SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE PEOPLE THOUGHT WERE DIFFERENTLY.
UH, THERE WAS A LAND PLANNING EXERCISE THAT THE, UH, TOWN UNDERTOOK WITH A COMPANY CALLED MK SK CAME FORWARD WITH 26 RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND MY SENSE OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THAT THEY'VE BASICALLY ALL BASICALLY BEEN RESOLVED.
A LOT OF 'EM, SOME OF 'EM DON'T APPLY TO THE PROJECT, BUT MANY OF 'EM ARE BEING INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN PORTION, UM, THERE'S AGREEMENT TO, TO WORK ON IT TOGETHER.
UM, THE, UH, AND THE, THE ONLY ONE OF, OF MAJOR CONSEQUENCE THAT WE HAD DEBATE ON WAS WHETHER IT'D BE A SINGLE SPAN OR DOUBLE SPAN, SO-CALLED SPLITTING THE BRIDGE, UH, WHICH ENDED UP AT A 25 MILLION COST IN MY, UH, UNDERSTANDING IS THE TOWN IS BACKED AWAY FROM THAT.
SO THERE'S NO DISAGREEMENT WITH THE SINGLE SPAN AND THERE'S AGREEMENT TO, UH, THAT THE PROJECT NEEDS TO LOOK AT GOING DOWN AS FAR AS GUMTREE, WHICH IS THE NEXT INTERSECTION DOWN FROM, UH, FROM STONY.
SO ALL IN ALL, I, I, I THINK THERE'S A FAIRLY SOUND TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT'S BEEN DONE BY, BY D O T THERE'S STILL THE ISSUE OF WHAT THE GATEWAY LOOKS LIKE.
AND I KNOW THE, THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN WILL BE WORKING, YOU KNOW, ON THAT AS,
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AS TO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO MAKE IT VERY ATTRACTIVE.AND THERE'S ALSO, WHAT'S CALLED A VALUE ENGINEERING PHASE.
THAT'S REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW, AND THAT'S WHEN THERE'LL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DO SOME FINE TUNING.
SO I THINK WE HAVE ON THE TABLE, THREE THINGS, UM, THAT MAKE UP THIS MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING.
UM, THE, THE FIRST ONE IS IT'S TIME TO ADVANCE THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, WHERE WE HAVE TO GO TO, THEY HAVE TO GO TO FEDERAL HIGHWAY AND, AND GET A GET APPROVAL FOR THIS THING.
UM, AND, AND WE FIND OURSELVES NATIONALLY AND IN THIS PROJECT AND AN INFLATIONARY SPIRAL, UH, WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW LAST APRIL.
UM, WE DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD ANY COST PROBLEMS, ALTHOUGH WE SPECULATED WE MIGHT, BUT NOW I THINK WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST A $30 MILLION, UH, SHORTFALL.
SO THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE THAT COST OF THE PROJECT WILL GO UP.
AND IF WE RUN SHORT OF FUNDS, THEN IT'S, I'LL BE GONNA COME AT THE EXPENSE OF THE AESTHETICS OF THE PROJECT.
THE SECOND PIECE, WHICH IS WHAT'S CALLED ADAPTIVE SIGNALS.
AND THIS IS WHERE YOU TAKE COMPUTERS AND USE THEM TO MANAGE THE, THE SIGNALS.
AND, UH, SO YOU, YOU FIND YOURSELF NOT AT A RED LIGHT AND NOBODY'S GOING THE OPPOSITE WAY SO THAT, THAT THE COMPUTER CAN MANAGE TO GET MORE TRAFFIC THROUGH WORKS PARTICULARLY WELL WHEN YOU'RE OFF, OFF PEAK.
UM, AND IN FACT, THEY'VE BEEN DOING A FAIR AMOUNT OF THAT OVER TIME.
IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE INTERSECTIONS ON HILTON HEAD, AS IN TOTAL, UM, THE INTERSECTION DELAYS WERE ACTUALLY ABOUT 50% HIGHER, 10 YEARS AGO.
SO IT IT'S A GRADUAL THING, BUT THE TOWN HAS IT IN THEIR C I P BUDGETS.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTY, UH, WILL BE A PARTNER IN THAT THE OT WILL BE.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S LOGICAL TO, UH, MOVE THAT FORWARD.
IN FACT, I, I WOULD ARGUE IF FOR SOME REASON, THIS MOU DOESN'T GO FORWARD, THAT ONE OUGHT TO GO FORWARD ON ITS OWN, BUT IT'S LOGICAL TO HAVE IT FOLDED IN THE LAST PIECE IS HAVING A SECOND INDEPENDENT REVIEW HAS BEEN SUGGESTED BY MANY PEOPLE.
AND I THINK THERE'S AGREEMENT THAT THAT MAKES SENSE TO DO.
IT'S GOT A WIDER SCOPE IS ACTUALLY TAKING A LOOK AT THE, THE WHOLE ISLAND IN TERMS OF WHAT THE TRAFFIC RE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
SO IN TERMS OF THE SECOND REVIEW, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I SUPPORT.
I THINK IT HONORS SENATOR DAVIS AND WHAT HE'S BEEN WANTING TO SEE HAPPEN.
AND IN DISCUSSIONS THAT, THAT HE'S LED, UH, IT'S HEAVILY IN THE, IN THE, IN THE STONY AREA, BUT IT WILL EXTEND TO A MUCH, UH, MUCH WIDER AREA.
AND THERE'S PERHAPS A COUPLE THINGS THAT CAN BE RESOLVED, YOU KNOW, AS IT GOES FORWARD.
UH, ONE IS, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN, UH, A CONCERN ABOUT WHAT THE GROWTH RATE IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO PROJECT A GROWTH RATE IN ORDER TO DESIGN IT ON THE OTHER HAND.
MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE THE ISLAND IS IT AS IT BUILD OUT, POPULATION'S BEEN ROUGHLY LEVEL FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS AND TOWN'S PROJECTIONS AS IT'LL GO UP.
I THINK IT'S 20% IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
AND, AND THE OTHER IS, UH, I THINK THE LATS DESIGN, UH, LOOKS AT IN THEIR LONG REIGN PLAN HAS PARALLEL ACCESS ROADS ON EITHER SIDE OF 2 78.
UH, WHEREAS THIS DESIGN, UH, DOES NOT, AND THAT MAY BE GOOD TO LET THE INDEPENDENT, UH, PEOPLE LOOKING AT IT, WEIGH IN ON THAT.
AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING GETS RESOLVED, BUT IN ANY EVENT, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THE BRIDGES ARE KIND OF THE LONG LEAD PIECE OF IT.
THAT'S WHERE THE COST EXPOSURE IS.
AND SO THAT PIECE NEEDS TO PROCEED ON SO THAT WE DON'T FURTHER END UP WITH INFL INFLATIONARY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW CAN BE DONE IN PARALLEL WITH THAT SUCH THAT IT DOESN'T DELAY THE OVERALL PROJECT.
UM, SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY COULD, IT, IT CAN OCCUR WITHIN THE TIMELINE THAT WE NEED TO DO THE, UH, DO, DO THE BRIDGES.
THERE'LL BE SOME GOOD IDEAS, COME OUTTA THE SECOND REVIEW AND THEY CAN BE INCORPORATED.
UM, AND, UH, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ARGUING FOR DELAYING MOVING THE ENGINE, THE EA OR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORWARD TO WAIT FOR THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW, CUZ IT BASICALLY WHAT IT WOULD BE DOING IS PERHAPS ADDING 50, 60 MILLION TO THE COST FOR SOMETHING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE IN TERMS OF A MAJOR WAY OF DOING IT.
SO I THINK THE QUESTION BEFORE US TODAY IS, IS AN, UH, MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING MEMO OF AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN DRAFTED, BE BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY STAFFS.
UM, AND THE QUESTION BEFORE US IS, DO WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT? UM, IN ORDER TO DO THE THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT OR IF NO, THEN WE HAVE TO MAYBE DROP BACK TO, UH, DIVIDING THE, UH, THE PROJECT.
SO I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE IN TERMS OF THIS MEMO, MEMO OF AGREEMENT, HAVE, HAVE I CAPTURED THAT SOMEWHAT CORRECTLY?
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UH, YOU DID PRETTY WELL.THE ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT SOME OF YOU WERE RECEIVED AN EMAIL TODAY REGARDING A MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT THAT WAS SENT OUT BY THE TOWN LATE LAST WEEK BEFORE THEY HAD OUR UPDATED ONE, THEY'VE ASKED FOR US TODAY TO SEND THEM THE OFFICIAL VERSION THAT IS RECOMMENDED OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE TODAY.
BASICALLY THE OLD MOU STATED THAT IN EXCHANGE FOR THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW, THE COUNTY WOULD EXPECT MUNICIPAL CONSENT ON THE PROJECT.
UH, WE'VE CHANGED THAT LANGUAGE NOW TO SAY THAT WE'LL DEAL WITH THE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T ADDRESS MUNICIPAL CONSENT, MEANING WE'LL DEAL WITH IT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT WE DO ASK FOR THE TOWN TO, UH, MAKE A STATEMENT TO AGREE, TO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE WITH THE SUBMITTAL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS THROUGH THE NEPA PROCESS.
THAT'S THE KEY DOCUMENT THAT, AND THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN THE DRAFT MO A, THAT IS IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIAL.
IS THAT REFERRING TO THE NEPA PROJECT, UH, PROCESS? YES.
EVERYTHING ELSE WE'VE WORKED WITH THE WE'VE WORKED WITH TOWN HILTON, NET ISLAND, UH, MARK ORLANDO AGAIN, UM, MARK AND I, WE HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
UH, HE'S A GREAT ASSET FOR THE ISLAND AS IS JOSH GRUBER.
AND AS SEAN COLE, UH, WE HAVE WORKED, UH, WITH THEM TO CRAFT AN AGREEMENT THAT WE THINK THAT BENEFITS TO TOWN BENEFITS TO PROJECT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME ALLOWS THE COUNTY AND D O T MOVE FORWARD, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND WE CAN, IF WE GET THE MOA DONE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
JARED CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M INCORRECT, IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THIS, IS THAT IF WE GET THE, UH, MOA DONE, THEN, UM, THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID THAT THEY'RE NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUNDING SHORTFALL.
SO WE COULD GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT, UH, THE NE DOCUMENTS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
JARED, YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING TO IT? WE MISSED SOME THINGS BY THE WAY.
I THINK JAR'S DONE A SUPER JOB WORKING WITH THEM AND DRAFTING THE, UH, MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING.
SO THE, THE MOA, UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WITH TOWN STAFF TOMORROW, I'LL ACTUALLY GO TO COUNTY OR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, THEY'LL BE TAKING UP THE, THEY'RE NOT, LET ME SEE.
THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY TAKING UP THE MOA TO VOTE ON IT.
UM, BUT THEY WILL BE LISTENING TO IT.
AND THEN I BELIEVE THEY'RE TAKING IT UP IN OCTOBER.
UM, SO THEY'LL JUST BE DISCUSSING IT TOMORROW.
THEY'LL THEY'RE GONNA WAIT UNTIL COUNTY COUNCIL ADOPTS IT AT COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING, NOT JUST AT PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTING, UM, BUT I'M GONNA GO THERE TOMORROW.
THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UM, HAD SENT AN MOA TO THE COUNTY FOR US TO REVIEW AND, AND ADOPT.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE USED AS THE STARTING POINT TO, TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH STAFF.
UM, SO STAFF IS COORDINATED, BUT THEIR TOWN STAFF WANTS TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR COUNCIL AT, AT, TO MEETING TOMORROW.
I'LL BE ATTENDING THAT AND ALSO SPEAK TO THE BEHALF ON WHY CERTAIN, CERTAIN ITEMS WERE CHANGED OR NOT CHANGED.
UM, HOPEFULLY THAT'LL GIVE SOME MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION TO SOME OF THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WHERE THE COUNTY IS.
UM, AND AGAIN, THEY, THEY'RE LOOKING TO TAKE ACTION ON THE MOA AFTER COUNTY COUNCIL, FULL COUNTY COUNCIL TAKES ACTION ON OUR SIDE.
SO THAT'S JUST WHERE WE ARE IN IT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE ONE QUESTION I'M, I'M NOT COMPLETELY CLEAR.
SO THE NEPA PROCESS, WE, WE VOTE FOR THIS TODAY.
WE STILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY DO IT IN OCTOBER.
SO THAT OUR GOAL IS, UM, TO SUBMIT THE MOST FULLY VETTED ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WHERE WE CAN ALL STAND BEHIND COMFORTABLY MM-HMM
UM, AND WE FEEL LIKE OUR BEST OPPORTUNITY IS IF EVERYBODY AGREES IN SOME FORMAT AND THIS BEING THE MOA THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER ON THE PROJECT, UM, AND D O T HAS BEEN A GREAT RESOURCE AND, AND PROVIDING GUIDANCE ON THIS PROCESS TO US, AND THEY FEEL THE SAME REST ASSURED THAT IF WE DEVELOP THIS DOCUMENT AND ALL AGREED TOWARDS IT, THAT PUTS THE BEST FOOT FORWARD FOR US TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING A FINE Z BACK.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS SUBMIT, UH, A, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT THAT HASN'T BEEN VETTED AND THERE'S QUESTIONS OUT THERE.
AND THEN IT GETS TIED UP, UM, AT THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY REVIEW PROCESS.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.
ALICE, THEY WANT US TO TAKE ACTION ON THE 26TH OF SEPTEMBER, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA VOTE ON IT AT THEIR NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT MEETING, WHICH WILL BE OCTOBER 4TH.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO THAT.
WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT AS SECOND.
WE HAVE IN A SECOND ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, I, I WOULD MAKE ONE ADDITION TO THAT, UH, IN
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THE SENSE THAT AS THE TWO ADMIT, IF WE APPROVE IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCEPTUAL, THERE COULD BE SOME MINOR MODIFICATION, WORD CHANGES AND STUFF AS IT WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH.UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE NORMAL ANYWAY.
WELL, WE'D HAVE TO GET THOSE BACK BEFORE THE 26TH.
THERE'S MORE THAN LIKELY, UM, AGAIN, I'LL BE ATTENDING THEIR MEETING TOMORROW.
SO IF THERE'S ANY, UM, SMALL CHANGES TO BE MADE, WE CAN PRESENT THAT AND, AND PROVIDE THAT AT OUR 26TH, SEPTEMBER 26TH COUNCIL MEETING.
CHAIRMAN, WE NEED TO DO PUBLIC COPY.
I, I THINK NOW WE HAD SOME COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION.
I MEAN, I, I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT.
UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE HERE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK, UM, DIETRICH.
UH, MY NAME IS DEIDRICH ADVOCATE.
I LIVE IN HILTON HEAD, UM, BEEN INVOLVED WITH, UH, LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT FOR THE LAST, UH, TWO ALMOST THREE YEARS.
UM, MY BACKGROUND IS IN FINANCE.
I'VE SEEN MANY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
I I'VE DONE A LOT OF M AND A WORK JUST LIKE YOUS DO.
UM, AND WE HAVE, UH, GONE THROUGH THIS PROJECT AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT MOST OF THE PROJECTS, INFRASTRUCTURE WISE AND OTHERS, WE HAVE A PROCESS AND WE DO THAT, UH, ON A CALCULATED ANALYTICAL WAY.
UM, AND WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IN THE COUNTY? AND I'M ALSO TALKING TO THE OTHER COUNCIL COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THAT WE FEEL THAT THE WOOL IS GETTING PULLED OVER OUR EYES AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA END UP WITH AG ON THEIR FACE.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW THAT HAPPENED EARLIER, UH, WAS NOT A TRULY INDEPENDENT REVIEW.
SO WE, NOW WE ARE ASKING FOR A TRULY INDEPENDENT REVIEW AND THAT PROCESS IS APPARENTLY GOING VERY SLOW TO FIND AN ENTITY THAT NEEDS TO DO THAT.
A TRULY INDEPENDENT REVIEW WILL ONLY STRENGTHEN THE WAY FORWARD.
SO BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE, UM, UH, GETS DECIDED UPON YOU NEED TO GO AND, UH, GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO BRIDGES, ONE BRIDGE, SIX LANES, TWO LANES, NOBODY KNOWS YET THE WHOLE COUNCIL IS GOING THROUGH, UH, WITH SOMETHING, UH, WHERE THEY GO INTO THIS, UH, DEAF AND BLIND.
SO SECONDLY, UM, WE FEEL THAT, UH, THIS WHOLE PROCESS GETS CONTINUOUSLY MANIPULATED AND CHANGED AS WE GO.
AND IT IS NOT WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT FROM OUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND FROM OUR TOWN GOVERNMENT.
UM, BUT I DON'T SEE WHEN I GO INTO ACCOUNTING MEETING, LIKE HERE IS PEOPLE TAKING NOTES, PEOPLE SPEAK, BUT IT DOESN'T GET RECORDED.
AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.
THERE ARE 10,000 PEOPLE ON HILTON HAT AND IN THE AREA THAT SAY, WAIT, LET'S HAVE THAT INDEPENDENT, TRULY INDEPENDENT REVIEW, BUT NOTHING HAPPENS.
YOU STILL ARE TRYING TO FORMULATE AN MOU THAT LANDS TOWARDS THE COUNTY.
WHEREAS THE MOU WAS MADE TO BE A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY.
NOW I SEE MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU WERE WEARING A SHIRT FROM THE, UH, THE, THE, THE COUNTY, OUR MAYOR WEARS A SHIRT OF THE TOWN.
THERE IS A SENSE OF PRIDE, AND THERE'S A SENSE OF PRIDE WITH YOU TO DO THINGS RIGHT, AND NOT TO RUSH OFF BLIND AND DEAF BECAUSE YOU WANNA GET THINGS DONE.
NOBODY HAS TOLD US THAT WE ARE UNDER A DEBT DEADLINE.
AS SIMPLE AS THAT TOMORROW WE HAVE A TOWN COUNCIL MEETING AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE THAT OPPOSE THE WAY WE ARE DOING BUSINESS.
UH, JESSE, WHAT ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US? YES.
JESSE WHITE ON BEHALF OF THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE, UM, I, I GUESS I WOULD JUST START BY ECHOING SOME OF, UH, DIETRICH'S CONCERNS.
I THINK THIS PROJECT OF ITS SCALE AND MAGNITUDE REQUIRES, UM, A LOT OF COOPERATION AND IT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE AND WORKING TOGETHER TOWARDS A BETTER PROJECT.
WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THE, THE NEPA, UM, SIGNING OFF ON THE NPA ANALYSIS WITHOUT DOING THIS INDEPENDENT REVIEW.
IT CREATES A PERCEPTION THAT THE NPA ANALYSIS IS NOT AS MEANINGFUL AS IT'S INTENDED TO BE.
AND THAT IT'S MORE OF A BOX TO CHECK OFF AS OPPOSED TO A REAL REVIEW OF THE DIRECT, INDIRECT AND CUMULATIVE IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S INTENDED WITHOUT
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THAT INPE TRULY INDEPENDENT REVIEW.UM, THE FULL SCOPE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS IN QUESTION IN, IN OUR MIND.
AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE SERIOUSLY CONCERNED WITH THE PROJECT IF IT WERE TO BE MOVED FORWARD IN THAT FASHION, JUST AS WE WOULD HAVE VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH SEGMENTING PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT OUT AND TRYING TO SEPARATE THE NEPA REVIEW, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE NEPA REVIEW IS TO TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH.
AND THIS IS A SUBSTANTIAL PROJECT AND GOING TO HAVE A VERY LASTING IMPACT ON THE COUNTY AND ON HILTON HEAD AND IT DESERVES TO BE DONE RIGHT.
AND IT DESERVES TO BE DONE IN, IN TIME TO GIVE IT, GIVE IT THAT TIME TO, TO BE DONE.
AND I THINK YOU'RE IN A GREAT POSITION HAVING LEADERSHIP AT THE STATE HOUSE FROM BOTH D O T AND, UM, SENATOR DAVIS IN PARTICULAR WITH ASSURANCES THAT FINANCIALLY YOU WILL NOT BE PUT IN A, IN A PINCH HERE ON THIS PROJECT AND THAT THE LEADERSHIP WANTS TO SEE IT DONE RIGHT AS WELL.
AND SO WITH ALL OF THOSE THINGS TOGETHER, I, WE REALLY FEEL THAT IT IS IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO WORK WITH THE TOWN.
IT IS TOO IMPORTANT NOT TO GET IT RIGHT.
ANYBODY ELSE HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK? OKAY.
SO WE, WE HAD A MOTION JOE TO PROCEED AND A SECOND, I FORGOT WHO IT WAS ME FOR YOU.
SO OPEN IT BACK UP FOR, UH, DISCUSSION AMONG THE MEMBERS, UM, MOTION BEING TO PROCEED WITH THE, UH, MEMO OF AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN.
UM, THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW, PROBABLY GONNA TAKE, LET'S SAY, SAY IT TAKES NINE MONTHS TO DO IT.
AND INFLATION IS PROBABLY INCREASING THE COST OF THE PROJECT AT FIVE OR 6 MILLION FOR EVERY MONTH WE DELAY.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WOULD WE DELAY THE PROJECT INCUR A COST OF 50 MILLION BECAUSE WE THINK SOMETHING MIGHT POSSIBLY COME OUT OF AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW WHEN THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO PROCEED WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, IF NOTHING COMES OUT OF THAT, THAT CHANGES THE PROJECT, NOTHING IS LOST.
IF IT TURNED OUT THAT WE REALLY OUGHT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE'RE STILL NO WORSE OFF TO RESTART AND DO WHATEVER CAME OUT OF THE STUDY AT, AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE WAS A BETTER ROUTE THAN THE CURRENT BRIDGES, THEN YOU END UP, UM, START OVER AGAIN.
SO I, I, I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE IS DO WE RISK MAYBE 50 MILLION IN COST OVERRUN IN ORDER TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS STUDY? SO ANYWAY, UH, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION ON COUNSEL TO MOVING THE MEMO OF AGREEMENT FORWARD? OKAY.
UH, SEEING NONE, UM, THERE NOT BEING ANY OBJECTION, THIS PASSES, UH, WITHOUT OBJECTION.
[7. DIVISION UPDATE FROM ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, JARED FRALIX]
I OVERLOOKED YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT.HAVE YOU GOT A QUICK ONE FOR US? I DO.
IF YOU WANNA OVERLOOK AND BYPASS IT.
NO, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
I'LL JUST GO OVER A FEW THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE IT TO THE AGENDA.
UM, JUST SO YOU GET A FULL FLAVOR OF WHAT'S GOING ON, NOT STAFF LEVEL TRANSPORTATION.
UM, WE HELD A PUBLIC MEETING ON SUNSET BOULEVARD ON SEPTEMBER 7TH.
SO A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO TO DISCUSS SAFETY ALTERNATIVES, UM, ON THE SEGMENT, BEYOND THE SALES TAX.
SO SALES TAX GOES FROM SEA ISLAND PARKWAY UP TO MILLER DRIVE, AND THEN THAT'S THE ALL OF SUNSET.
SO THIS WAS ADDITIONAL, UM, CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE CITIZENS ABOUT SPEEDING AND SAFETY ISSUES.
UM, SO WE HAD HIRED A CONSULTANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS.
THEY ACTUALLY COORDINATION WITH REPRESENTATIVE ERICKSON, UM, AND OTHERS, WE, THERE WAS A PETITION SENT THE D O T TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT FROM 35 TO 30, WHICH ALLOWED US TO USE MORE TRAFFIC, COMMON OPPORTUNITIES.
AND SO OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT CAME UP WITH FOUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
PEOPLE CAME, DISCUSSED THE OPTIONS PRESENTED, UM, A LITTLE STICKER ON WHICH OPTION THEY LIKED, AND IT WAS OVERWHELMING MAJORITY.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN ON THAT.
THAT'LL BE PART OF THE COST WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOME OF THOSE DESIGN, UH, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT AS WE TALKED AT THE MEETING, UM, WE DO NOT
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HAVE ANY FUNDING SET FOR, TO IMPLEMENT WHATEVER IS DESIGNED OUT OF THAT PROJECT.UM, SO THAT'LL BE FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION, BUT ALL IN ALL IS A REALLY WELL RECEIVED MEETING.
AND THERE WAS GOOD PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE'RE GONNA USE.
UM, IN THE DESIGN ALSO IN TRANSPORTATION, STAFF IS WORKING WITH LATS AND THEIR STAFF IN DEVELOPING A REGIONAL ITS ARCHITECTURE PLAN.
IT IS A LITTLE BIT GREEK TO ME, MYSELF, EVEN, UH, BUT ITS IS INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. SO THIS IS A CONNECTED, UH, AS OUR WORLD GETS SMARTER AND, AND TECHNOLOGIES ARE IMPROVED, THIS IS A CONNECTED TRAFFIC SYSTEM.
UM, THAT DEALS WITH, UM, SIGNAL LIGHTINGS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, SYNCHRONIZATION OF SIGNALS, UM, OVERHEAD MESSAGE BOARDS, WHETHER WE USE THOSE OR THOSE ARE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE IN THE COUNTY TO MANAGE TRAFFIC, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER ON HOW WE ASSESS TRAFFIC REMOTELY AND EVEN THE INTRODUCTION OF SMART VEHICLES AND TECHNOLOGIES ALONG THE WAY.
SO BEFORE WE CAN IMPLEMENT PROJECTS, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO LOOK AT THE REGIONAL APPROACH AND LA AS OUR REGIONAL PARTNER.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE ABOUT HOW TO FACILITATE A PLAN OF SUCH, UM, FROM CAPITAL PROJECTS.
UM, PROUD TO SAY THAT THE ROOF AT THE MC RALLY POOL HAS BEEN REPAIRED.
UM, BUT JUST AS WE WERE ABOUT TO BRING THE STRUCTURE IN DOWN, THERE WAS SOME FAULTY LIGHTING THAT NEEDED TO GET REPAIRED.
SO RATHER THAN COME BACK AND DO THAT LATER WHILE WE'VE GOT THE SCAFFOLDING UP, WE'RE GOING GO AHEAD AND CORRECT THAT TOO.
UM, THAT'LL PROBABLY TAKE A FEW WEEKS.
SO WE ENVISION THAT WE'LL BE READY TO OPEN THE POOL BACK TO THE PUBLIC IN OCTOBER.
UM, ARTHUR HORN BUILDING JUST NEXT DOOR.
UM, HAVING KNOWS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT PROJECT FOR A LONG TIME.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY, UH, BUILDING DEPARTMENT NOW AND CLOSING IN ON A CERTIFICATE OFCY.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO OCCUPY ALL THREE FLOORS.
UM, AND WE EXPECT THAT BY THE END OF OCTOBER AS WELL.
SO START MOVING PEOPLE IN THERE.
UH, HOWEVER, THE SECOND FLOOR, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH DEVELOPING SOME RENOVATIONS ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO MOVE BROADCASTING AND SOME EXPANDED SERVICES FOR MAGISTRATE IN THERE.
UM, SO THE THIRD FLOOR WILL BE OPEN FOR IT TO MOVE IN AND WE'LL BE COORDINATING WITH THE MAGISTRATE ABOUT, UM, ABOUT THE FIRST FLOOR, WHAT TYPE OF NEEDS AND USES THEY WANT TO ACCOMMODATE, BUT IT'LL BE OPEN THE FIRST FLOOR, THE, THE OVERFLOW AND THE, THE SECOND, UM, CONFERENCE ROOM OR OPEN SPACE FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, MAGISTRATE ON THE SECOND FLOOR WOULD NOT BE FINISHED YET.
SO WE'LL COORDINATE WITH THE MAGISTRATE ON THAT.
SO, UM, PUBLIC WORKS BOAT LANDONS WE WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE OUR IMPROVEMENTS AT THE HE TRASK BOAT LANDON.
SO THAT ONE GOT OPENED UP PRIOR TO LABOR DAY.
UM, SO EVERYTHING WENT WELL ON THAT PROJECT.
WE JUST STARTED WORKING ON SOME, UH, IMPROVEMENTS IN MAINTENANCE WORK, REPAIR WORK AT THE SANDS BOAT LANDING.
THAT'S EXPECTED TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS.
SO HOPEFULLY BY THE 1ST OF OCTOBER, THAT ONE WILL BE READY TO GO AS WELL.
ALSO OVER THE LAST MONTH WE'VE HAD ABOUT NOT ABOUT, BUT WE HAD FIVE PUBLIC MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT OUR BOAT LANDINGS AND TO GET PUBLIC INPUT ON OUR MASTER PLAN THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING, UH, A LOT OF GOOD COMMENT THERE STILL OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO, UM, MAKE COMMENTS ONLINE.
SO WE CAN FOLD THAT INTO OUR PLAN AND STILL TARGETING THE 1ST OF JANUARY, FEBRUARY FOR A COMPLETED MASTER PLAN THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT ON THAT.
AND THEN LASTLY, UM, IS BROADBAND.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INTEREST LATELY FROM VARIOUS, UH, INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS, SOME EXISTING, SOME NEW INTERNET SERVICE, ACTUALLY TWO INTERNET, TWO NEW ONES INTERESTED IN DOING BUSINESS, UM, IN, IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND SPECIFICALLY IN OUR RURAL AREAS.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IT DEPARTMENT ON THAT COORDINATING WITH SOME DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
WE'VE WRITTEN A COUPLE, UM, SUPPORT LETTERS FOR GRANTS THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR.
AND WE COORDINATE WITH THEM AS SPECIFICALLY WITH SOME OF OUR, OUR FUNDS, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE THOSE, TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE HIT ALL THE AREAS, BUT A LOT OF INTEREST IN A LOT OF, UM, SERVICE PROVIDERS JUST BROADBAND IN GENERAL, THE REASON, AGAIN, NOT TO MENTION THIS TO, UM, BUT NOT TO REITERATE THIS MORE THAN IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT WE DIDN'T OBLIGATE A LOT OF FUNDS INSIDE OF ARPA FOR BROADBAND BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT FUNDING IS COMING THROUGH THE INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS.
SO, UM, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN PAIR UP WITH THEM, BUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT THE ONES LOCALLY THAT ARE INTERESTED, PLUS SOME OUTSIDE ONES IS VERY PROMISING THAT WE'RE GONNA FIX OUR BROADBAND HOLES WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND I'M GLADLY ANSWERING QUESTIONS TO THAT.
SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR JARED, THANK YOU.
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MAY HAVE NEED TO APPOINT OF[13. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPOINTMENT OF ARTHUR HANDMAN TO THE LOWCOUNTRY REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY FOR A PARTIAL TERM WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE OF 2024]
MR. ARTHUR HEMAN TO THE LOW COUNTRY, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY TO, UH, FILL A PARTIAL TERM THROUGH 2024.LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
ANY OBJECTION SEEING NONE THAT STANDS APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE HAVE A NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
FOR TWO ITEMS. ONE HAS TO DO WITH, UH, POTENTIAL ACQUISITION PURCHASE OF 1505 NORTH STREET.AND THE OTHER ONE HAS TO DO WITH SOME LAND SWAPS WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.
UM, I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO MOVE.
ANY OBJECTION, ERIC, DO YOU ANTICIPATE WE ARE GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION ON EITHER OF THOSE, SO WE MAY HAVE SOME ACTION COMING OUT.
YOU'RE GONNA THE ACTION ON BOTH.
SO ANYWAY, WE'LL GO NEXT DOOR AND, UH, WE CAN WAIT AROUND OR WHATEVER.
WE'LL TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK CONVENING, UH, PUBLIC FACILITIES.
WE HAVE TWO ITEMS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[15. PURSUANT TO S.C. CODE SEC. 30-4-70 (A)(2): DISCUSSION OF NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TO PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND PROPOSED EXCHANGE/PURCHASE/ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY (70 Baygall Road, 152 William Hilton Pkwy, 150 William Hilton Pkwy, 68 Helmsman Way, 43 Jenkins Road)]
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MIGHT CALL ON YOU.THE FIRST ONE, UM, I, I MOVE THAT.
WE RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF HILLHEAD FOR THE SALE AND PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY CONSISTING OF 68 HELMS HELMSMAN WAY 43 JENKINS ROAD, 70 BAGEL ROAD, AND 1 52 HILTON HEAD PARKWAY.
DISCUSSION, UH, BRITTANY, YOU WANT TO TELL US A BIT ABOUT THE, JUST FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, WHAT THE FOUR PIECES OF PROPERTY ARE? SOMEONE MAY NOT RECOGNIZE THE NUMBERS.
THE ADDRESS IS A FEW BE OF KIND.
UH, THE PROPERTIES IN WHICH THE COUNTY OWNED ARE 70 BIG OLD ROAD AND 1 52 WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY.
UM, THESE PROPERTIES ARE THE LOCATION OF SOME PARKS THAT THE COUNTY CURRENTLY OWNS.
WE WOULD BE DEEDING THOSE OVER TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.
THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD IN RETURN WILL BE DEEDING TO US, A, A PORTION OF HILTONS AND WAY PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN THAT IS LOCATED UNDERNEATH THE, UM, FLYOVER.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'D ALSO BE PROVIDING US THE PROPERTY IN WHICH THE, UH, CURRENT CROSS ISLAND, UH, DOCK IS LOCATED ON THE THIRD PROPERTY THAT THE TOWN WOULD BE TRANSFERRING TO THE COUNTY WOULD BE 43 JENKINS ROAD, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER AN ANCHOR OF LAND.
THAT'S AT THE END OF JENKINS ROAD, ADJACENT TO THE COUNTY, UH, PIER.
AND IN ACTUALITY, THERE'S NO EXCHANGE, THERE'S NO EXCHANGE OF FUNDS FOR THIS.
IT IS TO THE BENEFIT OF BOTH PARTIES FOR US TO CONSOLIDATE SOME PROPERTIES AND, UM, BE ABLE TO BUILD SOME DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE ON EACH.
AND THIS IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE TWO STAFFS.
DISCUSSION ON, UH, THE LAND SWAP ANY OBJECTION TO THE LAND SWAP, UM, SEEING NO OBJECTION.
UH, THIS IS APPROVED AS, UH, WITHOUT OBJECTION.
[14. PURSUANT TO S.C. CODE SEC. 30-4-70 (A)(2): DISCUSSION OF NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TO PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND PROPOSED PURCHASE/ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY (1505 NORTH STREET)]
THERE, SIR.WE RECOMMEND TO COUNSEL, TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF BEAUFORD FOR THE SALE AND PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY WITH AN ADDRESS OF 1 5 0 5 NORTH STREET.
I'LL SECOND, A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UH, OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
I THINK THIS IS, UH, A HORRIBLE WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.
AND, UM, DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT, WHERE THIS IS, IF YOU WOULD, JUST SO PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING MAY NOT KNOW ALL THESE ADDRESSES.
1505 NORTH STREET IS, UH, PROPERTY ADJACENT TO TWO OTHER LOTS THAT THE COUNTY ACQUIRED LAST, UH, JANUARY, I BELIEVE, UM, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UM, RIGHT BEHIND THE COURTHOUSE THAT IS POTENTIALLY NEAR FUTURE GONNA BE OCCUPIED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND IT CONSISTS OF 0.3 ACRES.
UM, AND THE SALES OF THE, UM, PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE, UH, ARE GOING TO BE USED AT THE SOUTH SIDE PARK, BY THE CITY OF BUFORD.
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OBJECTIONS BESIDES BRIAN TO THIS MOTION? OKAY, YORK.WHY DON'T WE JUST CALL THE ROLL FOR THE RECORD CALL MR. PASSMAN MADE MOTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERAN NO COUNCIL MEMBER FLEW ELLEN.
FIVE, THREE, THE MOTION PASSES MOTION CARRIES.
UM, JUST ONE COMMENT FROM ME IS THE CHAIRMAN'S WRAP UP.
UM, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE OPEN THAT WE'D LIKE TO TIDY UP BEFORE YEAR END IS THE FACILITIES PLAN THAT WAS DONE, I GUESS, A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
AND, UH, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION AT, UH, THE OCTOBER PFC, BUT IT'S SOMETHING YOU MAY WANT TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORIES ON AHEAD OF TIME.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PLAN, I'M SURE WE CAN GET YOU, UH, A COPY OF THAT.
BUT ESSENTIALLY THERE'S, THERE'S TWO PIECES TO THE POTENTIAL DISCUSSION.
ONE IS, UH, AS THE CONSULTANTS PUT IT TOGETHER, THERE WERE KIND OF THREE ALTERNATIVES THAT OR POSSIBILITIES.
SO WE CAN ZERO IN ON, ON THOSE.
THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US AS A COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN BEFOREHAND.
AND THE OTHER IT'S KIND OF LED TO A POSSIBLE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING ON AN ALTERNATIVE WAY TO FINANCE SOME OF THESE TYPES OF THINGS.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UH, A SALE AND LEASE BACK.
SO THOSE TWO CAN GO HAND IN HAND, BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, UH, DO TAKE A LITTLE TIME, REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ON THE, ON THE FACILITIES PLAN, AND WE'LL HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THAT.
UM, ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE US DO? MAY I MAKE TWO QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS WHICH HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PUBLIC FACILITIES? NUMBER ONE IS, UH, SEPTEMBER IS THE, UH, IS, IS LEUKEMIA AWARENESS MONTH.
AND, UH, CAROL AND HARLEY ROUGH ARE HOSTING OF BLOOD DRIVE THIS SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH, FROM 10:00 AM TO 4:00 PM AT 51 SUNSET BOULEVARD, LADIES ISLAND.
AND THE SECOND THING I WANNA MENTION IS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE SETBACK OR THE LACK OF SETBACK ON THE, UH, ON THE BUTLER MARINE, I MADE THE STATEMENT, I MADE THE STATEMENT MONEY TIMES, ACTUALLY, THAT, UH, THAT, THAT WAS AT, AT THE INSTANCE.
SO CITY OF BEAUFORD AND, UH, I'VE SINCE LEARNED THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS NOT ENTIRELY TRUE, CAUSE IT WASN'T ANNEXED.
IT WAS ANNEXED TO THE CITY OF BEAUFORD AFTER THE SETBACK HAD ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.
THE SETBACK WAS, WAS AS A RESULT OF A, AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORD COUNTY AND THE CITY OF BEAUFORD SOME YEARS AGO.
UH, AND THAT'S SO I, I, I MISSPOKE.
I SAID IT WAS CITY, ACTUALLY CITY BUFORD AND BUFORD COUNTY JOINTLY.
WELL, WE'LL LEAVE IT OUT OF THE MINUTES THAT YOU MISSPOKE.
UH, WELL, ONE OF THE QUICK THING I FORGOT TO MENTION, WE HAVE THE CFI SEA, UH, SEE ISLAND PARKWAY DISCUSSION, UH, IN, IN SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH ERIC AND, UH, UH, WITH STEVEN MURRAY, IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S SOME AGREEMENT WE OUGHT TO DO AS CHARETTE OF SOME SORT WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS AND THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WOULD MAYBE GO 50 50 ON THE COST OF THAT THING.
WE, WE HAVE THE SCOPE AND WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH STATEMENTS.
SO I, I THINK THAT HELPS WITH THAT.
I FORGOT TO MENTION, I APOLOGIZE.
SO WE STAND ADJOURN, HAVE A GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.