Sep 13, 2022 Bluffton Town Council

WITH THAT, I'LL KIND OF KICK OFF JUST A QUICK OR A BRIEF, UH, COUNTY UPDATE.

OPPOSED THAT UNANIMOUS, UM, ITEM SIX PRESENTATIONS, CELEBRATIONS

[VI. Presentations, Celebrations and Recognitions]

OR RECOGNITION.

WE HAVE OUR QUARTERLY REPORT BY THE HEAD ALL IN BLOCKCHAIN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

ARIANA, YOU ARE UP COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT.

MY NAME IS MARIA AND THE VICE, UM, THE DESTINATION MARKETING ORGANIZATION FOR THE HILTON ISLAND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

TODAY, I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON OUR FISCAL YEAR Q4, UM, AND OUR OUT MARKETING EFFORTS HERE SHOWS THAT FOR APRIL, MAY AND JUNE, WE'RE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR RATE FOR AGAIN, FED PRODUCED YEAR.

SO AGAIN, OUR METRICS, UM, AS ACCOUNTS FOR ADR AND REV CAR, WHICH IS A GREAT STORY, TO BE ABLE TO TELL IN Q4 SOCIAL MEDIA, WE HAD, UM, UM, A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE JUNE TEAM CELEBRATION.

YOU CAN SEE THOSE, UM, EFFORTS REFLECTED IN THE NUMBERS AND THE GROWTH YEAR OVER YEAR IN THIS TIMEFRAME, UM, BOTH ON FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM.

AND THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE SNAPSHOTS FROM WHAT WAS POSTED IN THEIR ENGAGEMENT, THE WEBSITE AS WELL.

UM, DID EXTREMELY WELL FOR Q4 AGAIN WITH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, REALLY TYING BACK INTO THE WEBSITE AND, AND GENERATING THOSE, UM, WEBSITE HITS AND ALSO REFERRALS TO OUR AREA BUSINESSES.

THAT GROWTH IS ALSO GREAT TO SEE, UM, IN THE Q4 TIMEFRAME OVERALL FOR THIS, UM, Q4, WE HAVE 41 EVENTS, THE OVER 1200 PARTICIPATING IN THOSE EVENTS.

UM, AND THEN WE SAW SOME REALLY GREAT STRENGTH IN OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS EFFORTS.

AGAIN, THOSE EARNED MEDIA, UM, AND THAT ADD VALUE, UM, AGAIN IS AT, UM, THAT WE ARE ON PACE FOR OUR OFFICIAL BLUFF AND VACATION PLANNER, UM, TO, UM, THE CYCLE THROUGH THE 25,000 UNITS, UM, BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND WE'RE IN PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THE 20, 23 VACATION PLANNER.

SO IT'S A REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY.

PEOPLE ARE EMBRACING THE DESTINATION AND THEY'RE EXCITED TO SEE, UM, ALL THOSE GREAT STORIES COME TO LIFE.

AND 2023 IS GONNA BE A REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY AS WELL, DEEPER STORYTELLING, BIGGER IMAGERY, UM, REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT ONLINE AS WELL.

THAT WAS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SORRY, QUESTIONS QUARTERLY DOING A QUICK UPDATE.

NOW NEXT WE HAVE BUFORD COUNTY TRANSPORTATION OF OPPORTUNITY, MAYOR MEMBERS OF, OF COUNCIL.

UH, NUMBER ONE, I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF, UM, AT BLUFFTON, UH, KEVIN, KIM CONSTANCE, UM, AND DAN AS WELL.

UH, WE'VE BEEN SETTING UP REGULAR MEETINGS WITH STAFF JUST TO TRY TO KEEP EVERYONE INFORMED, AGAIN, SHARING IDEAS AND, AND SHARING RESOURCES REALLY.

SO, UH,

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UM, STOP ME AT ANY POINT JUST IF YOU HAVE, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

SO THE, THE FIRST ONE IS ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

UM, IT, IT EVEN CAME UP IN THE SALES TAX PRESENTATION.

IT'S THE SC ONE 70 YEAR TERM IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, THIS PROJECT EXTENDS REALLY FROM DELL WEB ALL, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO 4 62.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT SAFETY CONGESTION, UH, CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, UH, AS A PART OF A, OR AS PART OF A SECONDARY OR COMPLIMENTARY PROJECT, WE'VE ALSO ASKED FOR AECOM TO, UH, PROVIDE US A DESIGN FOR THE DELL WEB SEAGRASS INTERSECTION, AS WELL AS THE OLD FIELD INTERSECTION.

SO AGAIN, THE DELL WEB SEAGRASS IS UNDER THE, UH, IS WITHIN THE CITY.

UM, SO JUST, JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH KEVIN ON THAT.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OCCURRING AT THAT INTERSECTION.

SO AGAIN, WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH THAT AS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, UH, STUDY COMES, BECOMES AVAILABLE AND INCORPORATING THAT INTO OUR DESIGN.

NEXT ONE IS, UH, RIVER RIDGE FLAT CREEK INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THIS IS AT HAMPTON LAKE IN THE RIVER RIDGE SCHOOL.

THIS IS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT, UH, WAS A REQUEST BY BOTH THE SCHOOL AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD .

SO WE ARE, WE ARE LITERALLY DAYS AWAY FROM THIS PROJECT STARTING.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A TEMPORARY WOOD POLE INSTALLATION TO BEGIN WITH JUST BECAUSE OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND CONTRACTOR ISSUES.

WE'RE NOT ABLE TO, UH, INSTALL OR CONSTRUCT THE FULL INTERSECTION FROM DAY ONE.

SO IT'S GONNA BE A TEMPORARY INSTALLATION.

IT WILL HAVE PUSH BUTTONS TO BE ABLE TO GET THE KIDDOS ACROSS THE STREET FROM HAMPTON LAKE TO THE SCHOOL.

AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW THAT UP WITH A PERMANENT INSTALLATION NEXT SUMMER, WHEN SCHOOL IS OUT, UH, AGAIN, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE, WE HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT POSSIBLE TO THE, UH, SCHOOL PARENTS COMING AND GOING FROM, UH, RIVER RIDGE.

NEXT ONE IS BURNT CHURCH ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.

I KNOW THAT THIS ONE IS NEAR AND DEAR TO, UH, TO BLUFF AND HARD.

IT, THIS INCLUDES BOTH PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS, AS WELL AS SOME SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ON BURNT CHURCH.

SO BACK TO THE 2018 SALES TAX, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PATHWAYS THAT WERE PROPOSED WITH THAT SALES TAX.

BURNT CHURCH WAS ONE OF 'EM, BUT AS THE BUDGETS BECAME MORE IMPAIR, WE HAD TO PAIR THAT DOWN.

I BELIEVE IT STARTED WITH 24.

WE HAD TO PAIR IT DOWN TO 10.

SO A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT STILL HAPPENED IN BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS.

WE INCORPORATED THIS WITH AN ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT TO BURNT CHURCH.

SO THIS ONE, THIS ONE IS FROM ALL JOY TO BLUFF AND PARKWAY.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A, WE'RE NOT GOING TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY ON THE ROADWAY.

WE'RE NOT GONNA WIDEN IT TO FOUR LANES OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

IT'S TO GIVE A CENTER TURN LANE, TO BE ABLE TO GET TURNERS OUT OF THE WAY FOR, FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, AS WELL AS THEM PROVIDE THOSE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS.

AND, AND AGAIN, PLEASE STOP ME.

UM, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, GO AHEAD AND, AND ASK.

I DO YES.

MA'AM AND WE CAN ALL KIND OF TREAT A WORKSHOP.

UM, FIRST, COULD WE, IS THERE A PO POSSIBILITY TO GET THE PLANS OR THE SCHEMATICS OF EVERYTHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? ABSOLUTELY.

AND, AND THAT'S ONE THAT WE'LL ALSO WE'LL SHARE WITH STAFF AS WELL.

SO WE'VE JUST, WE HAVE JUST KICKED OFF.

WE HAD OUR VERY FIRST KICKOFF MEETING WITH PARISH AND PARTNERS LAST WEEK.

SO WE'RE JUST WORKING THROUGH WHAT THAT CROSS SECTION LOOKS LIKE, UH, BETWEEN TURN LANES BETWEEN PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS, AS THAT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE APPARENT AND THEY DO THEIR SURVEY WORK.

FOR SURE.

WE'LL WE'LL WILL HAVE STAFF INCLUDED AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO COME AND PRESENT, UM, TIME THAT YOU ALL WANT IT MAINLY JUST SO STAFF'S INVOLVED TOO.

AND I WANNA GO BACK TO OTHERS, BUT WE'LL GO THROUGH CAUSE I DIDN'T STOP YOU.

THE OTHER THING ON BURNT CHURCH, UM, WITH THE RECENT VOTE ON Y'ALLS AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WENT THROUGH READINGS OR NOT, LOGAN WAS REALLY PUSHING ABOUT, UM, UH, GOLF CARTS ON THE PATHWAYS.

ARE YOU NOW GONNA CONSIDER MAKING MAYBE THE BIKE LANES SPOTTER OR ARE YOU JUST GONNA GO WITH KEEPING THE SAME WIDTH FOR PATHWAYS? YEAH, THAT WAS VOTED.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY VOTED DOWN.

OH, OKAY.

FOR THE GOLF CARTS ON THE, ON THE MULTI-USE PATH.

I THINK THAT WILL BE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION THOUGH, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THAT WAS VOTED DOWN TODAY, UM, AGAIN, WE, WE MAY, WE HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH IN THE WAY OF WHAT IS THAT, WHAT DOES THAT PATHWAY LOOK LIKE IF WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW GOLF CARTS ON A, ON A MULTI-USE PATH AND GEORGIA REALLY HAS, THEY, THEY HAVE THE MOST INFORMATION ON THAT.

AND REALLY THAT BECOMES MORE LIKE FOOT PATHWAY AS OPPOSED TO A 10 FOOT PATHWAY.

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SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE JUST HAVE TO WEIGH, WEIGH THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND THOSE OPTIONS AND THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THAT, FOR THIS DESIGN, WHERE WE ARE AT LEAST PROCEEDING FORWARD WITH A 10 FOOT PATH ON ONE SIDE AND A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER.

HOW ABOUT EYE LANES? ARE YOU GONNA THINK ABOUT BIKE LANES? SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT CAME UP WITH THE DISCUSSION WITH PARISH AND PARTNERS.

WE ALSO WANT TO PUT ON ROAD BIKE LANES.

SO AGAIN, FOR THE SKILL, FOR THE, THOSE THAT FEEL COMFORTABLE TRAVELING WITH THE VEHICLES ON THE ROADWAY, WE DO, WE DEFINITELY WANNA PROVIDE THAT.

AND THEN AGAIN, CLEARING THAT MULTI-USE PATH FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LESS SKILLED BICYCLE RIDER, AS WELL AS STROLLERS AND, AND DIFFERENT KIDS ACTIVITIES AS WELL.

GOT, DID ANYBODY WANNA STOP THEM ON THAT OR NO, YOU PRETTY MUCH DONE MEAN, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, UH, THE ONE 70 THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT A MINUTE AGO FROM, UH, NEAR DALE.

WE, I GUESS MC GARVEY'S ALL THE WAY TO 4 62.

REFRESH MY MEMORY.

WHERE'S THE FUNDING COMING FROM THE, THE FUNDING FROM THAT ONE IS THERE IT'S YEAH.

THERE'S IMPACT FEES.

THERE IS, UH, SOME OLD LEFTOVER, UH, FUNDING FOR, FROM, UH, THE 2006 SALES TAX.

THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP COVER SOME OF THAT AS WELL AS, UH, PARTNERSHIPS WITH BOTH JASPER COUNTY AND HARDEN FILL.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE, THE FUNDING ON THAT.

NOW I KNOW THAT THERE WAS WHEN WE PRESENTED ON THE SALES TAX, THERE'S A, THAT'S WHY WE'RE CALLING THIS THE NEAR TERM IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THIS IS MORE THE CONGESTION CAPACITY, JUST MINOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A BIGGER PROJECT THAT WILL, UH, THAT WILL MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO BOTH 1 72 78, AS WELL AS ARG BOULEVARD AS PART OF A BIGGER PROJECT.

THAT'S WHERE SENATOR DAVIS COMES IN WITH HIS PROPOSAL.

THAT'S THAT WAS, YES.

THAT WAS PRIOR.

THAT WAS PART OF THAT SALES TAX, RIGHT.

THAT, THAT WE ARE, WE ARE NOW, UH, SHIFTING TO 2024.

IT APPEARS.

THEN HARRISON ISLAND ROAD WAS PAVED THIS PAST YEAR.

MAYOR I HAVE, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES MA'AM.

UM, SO IN TERMS OF THE, UH, ROTARY IMPROVEMENTS, ONE THAT YOU HAVE IT NOW, AS YOU MENTIONED, UM, THERE WILL BE, UM, ADDITIONS FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS OR ENHANCEMENT OF IT.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT DESIGN, UH, LOOKS LIKE? IT WILL LOOK LIKE A 10 FOOT, 10 FOOT MULTI-USE PATH ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND THEN A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER.

AND THAT WILL, THAT WILL BE FOR THAT ENTIRE, UH, THAT ENTIRE LENGTH FROM BLUFFTON PARKWAY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ALL JOY.

SO THEN A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

SO TO CONNECT TO THAT LAST PROJECT, WE DO HAVE THE ALL JOY, UH, ROAD SIDEWALK PROJECTS.

SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE APPROVED, UH, MULTI-USE PASS SIDE SIDEWALK PROJECTS FROM THE 2018 SALES TAX.

SO THAT'S A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK FROM, UH, ALL JOY BURN CHURCH TO, OR ALONG ALL JOY FROM BURN CHURCH TO THOMAS LAW.

AND THEN ANOTHER, ANOTHER ONE IMPACTING BLUFFTON IS LAST NIGHT AT COUNCIL, THERE WAS APPROVED.

THERE'S A SHORT SEGMENT BETWEEN BLUFFTON ROAD AND SOTON, THAT WAS JUST NEVER COMPLETED FOR SOME REASON.

IT'S ABOUT 600 FEET.

SO THAT PIECE OF PATHWAY ON BLUFFTON PARKWAY WILL BE COMPLETED, UH, WITH A, WITH A PROJECT HERE IN THE NEXT, UH, NEXT FEW MONTHS.

SO, AND THEN ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT CAME THROUGH COUNCIL IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WAS ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PATHWAYS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

TWO OF THOSE PATHWAYS THAT IMPACT BLUFF IN ARE SHAD, WHICH IS A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK AND OMER, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE AN EIGHT FOOT MULTI-USE PATH.

SO THOSE ARE ONES THAT WE WILL, AGAIN, HOLD PUBLIC MEETINGS ON, UH, WE'LL GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED, BUT, BUT TWO OF THOSE ONES THAT BLUFF AND WILL BENEFIT FROM THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE BUCK, WALTER, UH, PARKWAY ACCESS MANAGEMENT STUDY PHASE TWO.

SO YOU ALL SAW THE PHASE ONE EXCESS MANAGEMENT, UH, UH, STUDY THAT CAME THROUGH FROM BILL ENGINEERING.

UH, YOU ALL APPROVED THAT OUR COUNCIL HAD APPROVED THAT, UM, IN FEBRUARY AS WELL.

SO THIS IS REALLY LOOKING AT THAT NEXT PHASE.

SO IF YOU REMEMBER WHAT THAT PROJECT WAS, IT HAS TO DO WITH ACCESS MANAGEMENT.

IT HAS TO DO WITH PROPERLY SPACING OUT SIGNALS, UH, REQUIRING TURN LANES AT CERTAIN LOCATIONS, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF THAT OVERALL TRAFFIC CORRIDOR STUDY.

SO THAT ONE IS THAT ONE IS UNDERWAY AS WE SPEAK COUPLE OTHER JUST MAINTENANCE TYPE PROJECTS.

UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ROTARY SURFACING PROJECTS AT WILLOW TRACE, SANDY POINT KNIGHTS BRIDGE SOTON AND ANN SMITH DRIVE, UM, ON THE, ON THE DOCKET FOR THIS YEAR.

AND

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AND RAINBOW ROAD IS ON THE, IS ON THE DOCKET FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF, OF ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THERE, AND THEN JUST SOME, SOME OTHER PROJECTS, UH, JUST TO BRING UP.

SO MC RILEY, JUST RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, THAT ROOF REPAIR IS JUST ABOUT COMPLETE.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I HAD AN EXACT OPEN DATE, BUT IT APPEARS WE HAVE DONE A FINAL WALKTHROUGH.

EVERYTHING IS LOOKING GOOD.

I KNOW THE PARKS DEPARTMENT JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS GOOD WITH THE CHEMICALS IN THE POOL, BUT WE ARE REALLY, REALLY CLOSE TO OPENING THAT, THAT POOL BACK UP.

THEY WERE THERE TODAY.

THAT'S ALL SHANNON AND HER TEAM.

THEY WERE, THEY WERE, AND THEY'RE JUST CHECKING OVER EVERYTHING.

AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF THIS WEEK.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT THAN JUST SOME PROJECTS THAT FOCUS IN RIGHT AROUND THE ALL JOY BOAT LANDING, UH, WE'RE IN THE PLANNING STAGES FOR REPAIR TO THE BOAT LANDING, UM, AND THE PLANNING STAGES FOR PARKING LOT REPAIRS, AND THEN IN THE PLANNING STAGES FOR BEACH NOURISHMENT, UM, IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

SO, UH, AGAIN, SOME GOOD, SOME GOOD PROJECTS, UH, FOCUSED IN, IN THAT AREA.

SO WITH THAT, THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW GOING ON.

AND AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND HAPPY TO COME AND UPDATE YOU ALL.

UH, WHENEVER YOU SEE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. FRAZIER.

THANK YOU FOR, UM, THE UPDATES WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE, UM, MC RILEY ROOF REPAIR, EVERYONE GLAD TO SEE THAT, UH, GOING ON A LOT OF RESIDENTS HAVE ENJOYED TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

IS THERE ALSO A PLAN TO, UM, UH, CONTINUE THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT AFTER THAT INSTALL? SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE, UM, UM, SO MUCH DAMAGE AS TO WHAT TRANSPIRED THE LAST WEEK FROM THAT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, AND I CAN, I I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, BUT I THINK THAT AGAIN, WHEN BUDGETS ARE LOW AND YOU DEFER A MAINTENANCE YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE END UP WITH A SITUATION LIKE THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EVERYTHING ON A MAINTENANCE PLAN NOW, AND, AND AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO, WE WANT TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COME UP WITH THAT MAINTENANCE.

THANK YOU TWO, JUST TWO QUICK ONES FROM THE FIRST COUPLE OF SLIDES.

ONE WAS, YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT SEA GRASS AND OLD FIELD.

NOW I WAS TOLD AT SO LOCO THAT YOUR COUNCIL WAS VOTING ON THAT SEA GRASS REROUTE, BUT I KNOW STAFF HAS TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING FORWARD.

THAT REALLY WOULD BE A RED LIGHT.

SO ARE WE HOLDING OFF ON THE U-TURN KIND OF, YEAH.

SO, SO RIGHT NOW WITH THAT PROJECT, SO THO THOSE PROJECTS FOR DESIGN JUST WENT TO COUNCIL AND WERE APPROVED LAST NIGHT AS WELL.

THAT'S FOR AECOM TO LOOK AT THOSE TWO, BUT WE ARE GONNA HOLD ON ANY KIND.

I ACTUALLY HAD A DISCUSSION WITH AECOM TODAY.

WE'RE GONNA HOLD ON ANY DESIGN ON THOSE UNTIL WE GET THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BACK FROM THE DEVELOPER, UH, THAT, THAT IS DOING THAT, UH, WHO HAS THE PROPOSAL RIGHT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION? I I'VE SEEN SEVERAL TIMES CAUSE I'VE HAD SOME, SOME CITY RESIDENTS WHO WERE NOT IN THE TOWN, BUT WE ALL WORKED REALLY CLOSELY TOGETHER TO GET MONEY IN A POT TO PUT THAT UP THERE.

AND I WENT OUT WITH THEM LAST WEEK AND SCHOOL BUSES CROSS OVER THAT IT IS SO DANGEROUS AND WITH THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ZONED FOR THAT AREA, HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE BUILT THERE TO SEE THAT U-TURN, I, I JUST BEG YOU TO HOLD OFF ON THAT AND REALLY WORK FOR A LIGHT WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF IT ALREADY PAID FOR.

SO, AND THEN I'M GONNA ASK ON BEHALF OF OLDFIELD RESIDENTS WHO ARE NOT IN THE TOWN LIMITS, BUT WHAT IS THAT PROCESS? AND I'VE BEEN IN LATS TO HEAR IT, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THE COUNTY CAN TAKE ON FOR A RED LIGHT THERE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, AND DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT? WELL, SO WE WILL, WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT THAT INTERSECTION, UM, AS A PART OF, OF KIND OF THAT OVERALL, AND, YOU KNOW, AS FAR IN THE WAY OF LATS, THERE'S A CORRIDOR STUDY ALONG ONE 70.

SO THAT, THAT IS AGAIN A STATE MAINTAINED INTERSECTION, BUT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE STATE AS WELL AS WITH LATS ON THAT CORRIDOR STUDY TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE CORRECT SOLUTION IS.

THERE COULD ANYTHING ELSE MR. HAMILTON, PEACE NOURISHMENT IN ALL GEORGE, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL AND HOW MUCH FUNDING IS IS ALLOCATED FOR THAT AT THI AT THIS POINT, I, I WILL HAVE TO COME BACK WITH YOU WITH, WITH THOSE ANSWERS.

UM, I CAN SEND, I, I CAN GET YOUR CONTACT AND SEND THAT, SEND THAT UPDATE THAT IS BEING DONE OUT OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

AND IT IS JUST IN THE, IN THE VERY PLAN, THE INITIAL PLANNING STAGES.

AND I CAN SEND YOU WHAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS AN UPDATE.

AND THEN AGAIN, UPDATE STAFF AS WE, AS WE KIND OF PROGRESS THROUGH, UH, WITH ANYTHING, UH, MORE CONCRETE ON THAT.

I THINK IT'S REAL 99% OF THESE PROJECTS FALL OUTSIDE OUR TOWN LIMITS, BUT THOSE RESIDENTS BREEDS BLUFF IN THE WAY WE ALL DO.

COME, COME BACK OFTEN.

I MEAN,

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AND I KNOW THEY'RE ANXIOUS TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT FROM PENNIES LONG AGO.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO HAPPY TO COME AT ANY POINT.

AND I FEEL LIKE COMMUNI COMMUNICATION IS THE KEY.

AND AS LONG AS WE'RE COMMUNICATING, UH, WITH, WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT, UH, WE'LL BE A, WE'LL BE A BETTER, UH, MORE COHESIVE GROUP.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, NOW NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT,

[VII. Public Comment]

PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S DIFFERENT IN EVERY MUNICIPALITY.

THIS TOWN DOES ONE PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, WE DO NOT DO PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS, BUT IT'S ONE PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO PLEASE BE, UH, MINDFUL OF THAT.

WHEN YOU COME UP, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

WE NEED IT FOR OUR MINUTES SO WE CAN RECORD IT CORRECTLY.

UM, KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES, CONFINE YOURSELVES TO THE QUESTIONS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THIS COUNCIL, BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL.

I'LL SAY THAT PLEASE, UM, AND HAVE RESPECT FOR THE, FOR THE CHAMBER THAT WE ARE IN.

SO I WILL TURN THAT OVER TO OUR TOWN CLERK AND SHE WILL CALL THE NAMES.

SALLY HENDERSON.

I COULD SAY SOMETHING.

YEAH, SALLY, HENDERSON'S MY WIFE.

WELL, YOU NEVER KNOW.

VERY NICE ON OUR WAY FROM YOU'RE MR. SALLY HENDRICKSON.

I'M MR. SALLY.

YEAH, BUT MAYBE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND NAME BILL HENDERSON.

AND I, UH, LIVE AT, UH, TWO 11 WOODEN WHEEL LANE IN CYPRESS RIDGE SUBDIVISION, THE TOWNHOUSE AREAS.

AND, UM, I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE DR H PROPOSAL.

UM, WE'RE A TOWNHOUSE, UH, RESIDENT.

SO OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE SPENT OVER A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO LIVE IN A TOWNHOUSE.

SO WE KIND OF, KIND OF LIKE TOWNHOUSE LIVING.

SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, UH, THE OWNERS, THE OWNERS OF THE TOWNHOUSE, UH, WE WERE THERE, THE PROPOSED IS THE 29 UNITS, WHICH IN OUR, TO US IMPACTS US RIGHT ON THE EDGE.

WE'RE RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE STREET THERE.

SO, UM, IT'S EXTREMELY HIGH DENSITY OF HOMES IN THE TWO ACRE PLOT.

UH, THE PROPOSED TOWNHOUSE DESIGN IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT TOWNHOUSE DESIGNS THAT, THAT WE'RE IN.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, YOU'VE GOT ONE STYLE ON ONE SIDE, AND THEN WE HAVE THE KINDRED DESIGN, WHICH IS A ONE LEVEL ON OUR SIDE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR AREAS THAT WE'D LIKE TO COMPROMISE IS TO TRY TO KEEP CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THE REMOVAL, UH, THE, ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES IS THE REMOVAL OF THE, OBVIOUSLY THE TREES, THERE'S A LANDSCAPING BEM THAT RUNS ALONG OAK OAK BARREL.

THAT GIVES US SOME PRIVACY, UH, THAT IN THE PLAN THAT THEY SUBMITTED IS GONE, UH, THERE'S 12 OR 14 BALD, CYPRESS TREES IN THERE.

THAT'LL BE TAKEN OUT.

MULLY GRASS IS PRETTY, IT'S A PRETTY NICE AREA.

AND IT ALSO OBVIOUSLY GIVEN US SOME, UH, BLOCKAGE THERE, UM, THE 44 UNITS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ENTRYWAY HAVE, CAUSE, UH, ARE GOING TO CAUSE QUITE A BIT OF A TRAFFIC ISSUE, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN ADDING 20 MORE, 29 MORE UNITS, WE WE'LL OBVIOUSLY DO A LOT MORE TOO.

UM, THE CYPRESS RIDGE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE IS COMPRISED SOLELY OF THE DR.

HORTON REPS, ALONG WITH THE SOLE AND ALONG WITH SOLE CONTROL OF THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY SELECTED BY DR.

HORTON, THE RESIDENTS DO NOT HAVE ANY INPUT IN THE COLOR STYLE OR DESIGN.

SO THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE TOWNHOUSE OWNERS.

SO WE'D LIKE THEM.

AND WE JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LITTLE SAY SO IN IT, SOME OF OUR POSSIBLE COMPROMISES THAT WE WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IS, UH, KEEP THE EXISTING BEM ON OAK BARREL AND ALONG THE ENTRYWAY, THERE'S ALSO THE SAME TYPE OF, UH, BEM THERES THAT, THAT, THAT THEY COULD DESIGN THE, WHATEVER THEY PUT IN THERE TO KEEP THOSE BEMS, UM, UH, DO NOT APPROVE THE EXTENSION OF WOODEN WHEEL LANE THROUGH THE, THE NEW PROPERTY CUZ THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT RESOLVES, UH, REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TOWNHOUSES FROM 29 TO 22 TO WHICH WOULD ELIMINATE THE ONES THAT ARE ALONG THE MAIN ENTRY.

I THINK IN SHOP IT'S A THREE MINUTE.

IF YOU JUST GET TO THE END OF ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN I JUST HAVE TWO MORE THINGS THERE AND UH, REQUIRE ADDITIONAL OVERFLOW PARKING ALONG.

THE NEW TOWNHOUSE IS CUZ WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY THERE.

AND THEN, UH, REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT OF UH, THE DONATED PARK THAT'S AT ARGO CIRCLE AND THEN, UH, AND ACTUALLY SHOW US WHAT A PARK PLAN WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST GIVE US TWO FIELDS THERE.

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UM, PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF THE THREE MINUTES.

WE IT'S A LONG COUNCIL MEETING AND JUST TRY TO GET YOUR COMMENTS IN WITHIN THE THREE MINUTES.

ANDREW KEEL EVENING, MR. KEEL, ANDREW KEEL 22 TRAIL RIDGE RETREAT BLUFF IN SOUTH CAROLINA, 29, 900.

UH, I WAS LOOKING AT THE AGENDA AND IT SEEMS IT'S GONNA PUBLIC.

I WAS GONNA COMMENT ON THE HOUSING TRUST THAT I GUESS YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT TONIGHT, CYPRESS RIDGE AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S POTENTIALLY GOING IN THAT I THINKS ON THE OCTOBER 11TH MEETING, UH, POOL BE BEHIND SUBDIVISION, MIDPOINT, ANYHOW HOUSING TRUST.

I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PAPERWORK AND I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, I WAS READING EVERYTHING SKIMMING IT QUICKLY, WHETHER OR NOT I GOT IT, BUT IT SEEMS, SEEMS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.

UM, HOWEVER, IT SEEMS TO SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS GONNA BE ABOUT 7.2 MILLION IN FUNDING OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD.

AND I GUESS MY COMMENT WAS GONNA BE, IS THERE ANYTHING TO DO TO TRY TO SPEED THAT UP SINCE IN 10 YEARS, AS YOU KNOW, THE 9,000 HOUSES IN HARDY THAT I'M SURE ARE NOT GONNA BE PROVIDING WORKERS WHO ARE COMMUNITY IS THEY'LL PROBABLY BE LONELY SENIOR LIVING OR OVER 55 COMMUNITIES.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE COMING IN AND LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND PEOPLE STRUCTURE TO SUPPORT EVERYBODY.

SO ANYHOW, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE MONEY AND SPED UP IF POSSIBLE, CYPRESS SCRIPTS, SUBDIVISION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND I BELIEVE THEY DENIED THAT.

I MISSED THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CUZ I WAS OUT OF TOWN.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAME UP AGAIN, BUT I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED THEIR PROPOSAL.

AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMMERCIAL LAND THAT THEY WANT TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL ON STATING THAT IN THE POD ALLOWS 'EM TO DO THAT.

I WOULD, UH, PUSH THE COUNCIL TO I, THE RESIDENTIAL CONVERSION AND MAKE THEM BUILD COMMERCIAL IF THEY WANT TO BUILD COMMERCIAL, IF ANYBODY DOES, CUZ THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL OVER IN THAT AREA.

I MEAN THERE'S PUBLIC, A LIQUOR STORE AND AN ICE CREAM SHOP, NO RESTAURANTS AND IT WOULD BE NICE FOR THERE TO BE SOME RESTAURANTS.

SO I DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE 30 MINUTES TO GET SOMEWHERE TO WAIT AN HOUR AND A HALF TO HAVE A TABLE.

UM, AND THEN LAST THING, MIDPOINT, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF AN UPDATE.

THEY BEING POOLEY STATED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PROVIDE US AN AGREEMENT, CUZ THERE'S A BIT OF A DISPUTE OVER THE ROAD THAT RUNS TO THEIR COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE SUPPOSEDLY GONNA BUILD A SECOND ACCESS POINT, BUT THE ROAD IS OUR ROAD OWNED BY US WITH A QUESTIONABLE USE AGREEMENT SLASH EASEMENT THAT A DEVELOPER PUT BACK IN, IN 2009 OR 2010, ANYHOW, I WOULD URGE YOU NOT TO NEXT WEEK, APPROVE IT UNTIL THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY IS APPROVED.

AND ALSO THEY WORK THINGS OUT WITH US ON OUR ROAD AGREEMENT.

UM, CAUSE THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO IT.

GIVE IT TO US A MONTH AGO.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.

HONESTLY RUN BLUFF IN CHAMBER COMMERCE, MISS SOCA, YOU CLEARLY MISUSE TOWN RESOURCES AND YOU MADE MAKE THIS RIGHT AS FOLLOWS AND IT WAS ILLEGAL.

I TOOK THOSE NOTES.

THAT'S NOT ON THIS AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT I TOOK SOME NOTES ON THAT.

SKIP HOGAN.

GOOD EVENING, MR. HOLAND SKIP POLAND.

WEMI HARBOR, MISS SOKA.

IT SEEMS YOU CONTINUE TO MISLEAD CITIZENS ABOUT YOUR ACTIVITIES.

FOR EXAMPLE, SEVERAL YEARS BACK, YOU DID AN ILLEGAL MEMBERSHIP DRIVE USING TOWN EMPLOYEES ON TOWN TIME TO HELP PROFIT THE CRIMINALLY OPERATED HILTON HIP BLUFF AND CHAMBER.

THIS HARMED YOUR OWN RESPECTED, OFFICIAL, GREATER BLUFF THAN CHAMBER.

HOW WAS THIS POSSIBLE WITHOUT YOU SCHEMING WITH CHAMBER BILL MILES AND THE BLUFFTON TOWN MANAGER, MARK ORLANDO.

AND AFTER YOU GOT CAUGHT, YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO THE SAME MEMBERSHIP DRIVE FOR THE GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER.

WHEN EXACTLY ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO THAT? IN FACT, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM BLUFFTON CHAMBER, LAWYER ROBERTS V WHO SAID QUOTE, A TRAGIC MISTAKE.

HILTON ED CHAMBER IS NOT BLUFF IN'S CHAMBER AND TOWN EMPLOYEES ASKING TAXPAYER SUPPORT.

ONE CHAMBER OVER THE OTHER IS NOT RIGHT.

PUBLIC IS IN AN UPROAR AND SHOULD BE AND STILL IS.

AND TO THE INSULT TO INJURY, WE FOUND OUT THAT YOU AND ORLANDO USED TAX MONEY TO JOIN THE HILTON, HAVE BLUFFTON CHAMBER, NOT YOUR OWN TOWN, UH, TOWN'S LAWYER GREATER BLUFF.

I MEAN, UH, CHAMBER OF GREATER BLUFF THAN CHAMBER.

IT WAS ONLY AFTER I CAUGHT YOU.

I MADE YOU BLATANTLY, BUT BLATANTLY PURCHASE MEMBERSHIPS.

THAT WAS AN ILLEGAL, UH, USE OF TAX MONEY.

THE WAY I SEE IT, THE MATH WORKS OUT TO A 511 NEW MEMBERS FOR THE HILL THAT YOU OWE 190,000 IN DAMAGES OWED TO THE

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PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED THE GREATER BLUFF IN CHAMBERS OF TOWN'S OFFICIAL CHAMBER SELL 501 MEMBERSHIPS OR PAY THEM 190,000 IN DAMAGES.

ASK IF FRAUDULENTLY OPERATED HILTON HEAD CHAMBER TO LEAVE BLUFFTON AS HAVING TWO COMPETITIVE CHAMBERS IN BLUFF CAUSES CONFUSION, LOCAL BUSINESSES NOR THE CITY IN SOUTH CAROLINA, AS TWO OFFICIAL CHAMBERS REMOVED THE HILTON HEAD CHAMBER AS THE TOWN'S DMO, WHICH THE TOWN FAVORED OVER THE GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER WITHOUT A CONTRACT OR ACCOUNTING TRANSPARENCY.

THIS COULD NOT BE ANY MORE CORRUPT THAN NOT THAN OFFERING THIS TO YOU THAN NOT OFFERING THIS TO YOUR OWN CHAMBER OVER THE HILTON HEAD CHAMBER.

YOU SAID RESIDENTS THINKING WE ARE OUT MAKING BACKROOM DEALS.

IT IS.

AND IF IT'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, IT'S A CONTRACTUAL MATTER.

I PROMISE YOU THAT YOUR ENTIRE ME, ME TENURE HAS BEEN AN ONGOING BACKROOM DEAL.

HOWEVER, YOU CAN AT LEAST MAKE THINGS RIGHT WITH A GREATER BLUFF AND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

AND THEN, AND THEN HEAD BACK TO SELLING REAL ESTATE FULL TIME.

INSTEAD OF BEING A PART-TIME PROFIT PLAYING MAYOR WITH MULTIPLE HORSES IN THE RACE, INCLUDING YOUR CROOKED DEVELOPER, LAWYER METAL FINGER, WE HAVE EMAILS WITH YOU, MISS SOKA AND BILL MILES AND HILTON HEAD CHAMBER OFF YOUR SERVERS.

WE HAVE EMAILS OFF YOUR SERVERS THAT HAS YOU COMMITTING SPIRIT, CONSPIRACY AND FRAUD.

YOU ARE IN REAL TROUBLE, MISS SOKA, AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE SMILING.

YOUR 50 MILLION WILL BE AN FBI INVESTIGATION AND AR ARIAN APPRENTICE OF THE CHAMBER.

JUST COMMITTED FRAUD ONCE AGAIN WITH YOU.

SO YOU CANNOT USE PUBLIC FUNDS FOR PRIVATE PURPOSES, AND I'M GLAD YOU GOT A SMILE IN YOUR FACE BECAUSE I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE WHEN ALL THIS UNFOLDS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANYONE ELSES, EVERYBODY HAVE A NICE DAY.

FACT THE FOLLOW THAT'S THE TIME.

EXACTLY.

GOOD EVENING.

HI, MY NAME IS VALERIE BRIDGES AND I LIVE AT 2 62 WOODEN WHEEL LANE INSIDE THE BRIDGE.

FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I DON'T LIKE HAVING ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE A BETTER, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PARTICULAR ITEM THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I WAS ONE OF SEVERAL, UH, DOZEN HOMEOWNERS THAT ATTENDED A MEETING WITH DR.

HORTON TO, UH, REVIEW VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR THE PROPOSED AREA ON MILL CREEK BOULEVARD AND ARGO CIRCLE.

THERE ARE ABOUT 25 OF US THERE.

UM, ABOUT A WEEK AGO.

UM, THE UNANIMOUS FEELING AT THAT MEETING WAS THAT WE DO NOT WANT ANY OF THE SPACE TO REMAIN COMMERCIAL.

UH, AND WE LIKE THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING PLANS FOR THE TWO ARGO AREAS, UH, THAT WE WERE SHOWN, UH, FOR MYSELF.

I AM CONCERNED THAT IF ANY OF THE LAND STAYS COMMERCIAL, WE WILL HAVE THE DEBACLE THAT IS NOW SEA GRASS STATION, WHERE THEY HAVE A PAY BY THE WEEK HOTEL.

WE DON'T WANT THAT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT WAS FOR A LIVE WORK PLAY ENVIRONMENT, BUT THAT ORIGINAL PLAN IS NOW DECADES OLD AND TIME HAS MOVED ON.

THERE IS AMPLE SPACE FOR COMMERCIAL NEARBY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW PUBLIC'S AND NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE CENTERS IN WALKING DISTANCE FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN REGARDS TO THE PLAN FOR THE 29 TOWN HOMES IN THE PROPOSED OPTION.

UM, IT'S MY PERSONAL FEELING THAT THE 29 TOWN HOMES IN THAT SPOT WILL CREATE TRAFFIC NIGHTMARES, PARTICULARLY WITH THE PROPOSED ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH THE THEM TO MILL CREEK BOULEVARD.

IT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC DOWN MY ROAD, WOODEN WHEEL LANE, AND WILL CAUSE A BOTTLENECK AT THE INTERSECTION WITH MILL CREEK BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A ONE LANE ROAD, NOT A TWO-LANE ROAD.

WHEN YOU ADD THAT TO THE NEW DAYCARE CENTER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MILL CREEK BOULEVARD, WE'RE GONNA BE IN A BIG TRAFFIC MESS AT THAT LIGHT.

UM, SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO HAVE KEEP THE TOWN HOMES IN THAT AREA, UM, HAVE FEWER OF THEM.

UM, IT WAS ALREADY REFERENCED THAT THERE, UH, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE BUFFER ON MILL CREEK BOULEVARD SO THAT YOU DON'T WALK IN AND LOOK AT SOME OF 'EM.

AND THAT COULD BE, UM, THAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE GO FROM 29 TO 23 UNITS.

UM, AND DON'T PUT THE ROAD TO MILL CREEK BOULEVARD, I BELIEVE IS THE WHOLE REASON THEY ASKED FOR PERMISSION IN THE FIRST PLACE, CUZ IT WAS A TRAFFIC THING.

ALL IN ALL MY PRIORITY IS NO COMMERCIAL, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER PLAN, WHETHER IT IS THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL OR PERHAPS THEY GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND FIND SOMETHING OF BLAST DENSITY, WHICH WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.

MA'AM LAURA WALSH.

MY CONCERNS WERE JUST ADDRESSED.

THANK HELLO.

YOU CAN PUT HER DOWN AS SAME CONCERN AS PRIOR SO WE CAN GET YOUR MIKE DOLAN.

COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL

MA'AM HELLO

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EVENING.

UH, MIKE DOLAN, TWO 14 ARGO CIRCLE.

I WILL ECHO A LOT OF VOWS AND UH, MR. HENDERSON'S, UH, POINTS, UH, WE DID MEET WITH DR.

HORTON.

THEY HAVE TWO PLANS, THEIR PREFERRED PLAN, WHICH IS, UH, ON THE AGENDA AND A SECOND PLAN, WHICH QUITE HONESTLY IS, IS A LEVERAGE POINT.

UM, THAT INCLUDES THE SEVEN TOWN HOMES ON THOSE TWO GREEN SPACES ON ARGO LANE, WHICH WOULD BE INCREDIBLY UGLY AS A FOCAL POINT TO SEE THE SIDES OF TOWN HOMES AS YOU COME INTO, UM, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.

AND WE WOULD LOOK AT THEM THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY, UH, FROM OUR GO CIRCLE.

UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, I THINK THE BEST PLAN IS THE CURRENT PLAN WITH SOME SUGGESTED CHANGES THAT VAL AND WILL SAID, UH, YOU COULD SIMPLY NOT CONNECT TO MILL CREEK BOULEVARD AND INGRESS AND EGRESS COULD EASILY BE DONE OFF OF OAK OAK BARREL.

UM, AND THAT WOULD LIMIT SOME OF THE FLOW OF THE TRAFFIC.

UH, THE SECOND THING IS THE SEVEN, THERE ARE SEVEN TOWN HOMES PLANNED FOR RIGHT ALONG MILL CREEK BOULEVARD.

THAT WOULD JUST DESTROY GREEN SPACE, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH OF BECAUSE OF THE OVERBUILDING.

UM, SO SOME IDEAS FOR THAT, THAT THE RESIDENTS CAME UP WITH WAS MAYBE WE CAN BUY THAT PROPERTY.

UM, MAYBE THOSE CAN BE PUT SOMEPLACE ELSE WITHIN CYPRESS RIDGE OR MAYBE DR.

HORTON DOESN'T HAVE TO BUILD THEM.

THERE'S SOMETHING SO SACRA SANCT ABOUT THEIR 29 UNITS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE 29 UNITS.

MAYBE THEY JUST DON'T HAVE TO.

MAYBE THEY'VE MADE ENOUGH OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I HOPE YOU'LL WORK WITH US.

WE DON'T WANT COMMERCIAL.

WE DON'T WANT THE TOWN HOMES ON OUR GO LANE.

SO I HOPE, BUT WHEN THEY LEAVE, WHEN THEY'RE DONE WITH THIS, WE GET STUCK WITH EVERYTHING THEY'VE ALREADY NOT SUPPORTED THE HOA.

THEY'VE NOT REALLY SUPPORTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD VERY WELL.

SO PLEASE HELP US, UH, PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU, MICHAEL BEAUMONT TOWN COUNCIL IN MAYOR SKA.

MY NAME'S MICHAEL BEAUMONT.

I LIVE AT 2 0 3 ARGO CIRCLE AND UH, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER PLAN.

UM, I HAVE THREE DAUGHTERS.

THEY'RE 28, THEY'RE 23 AND THEY'RE 18 YEARS OLD.

AND WE LIVED HERE FOR 14 YEARS, MOVED HERE IN 2008, BUT MY GIRLS WERE YOUNGER.

UM, I HAD A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THEM TO THAT'S WHAT YOU DO AS A PARENT.

YOU TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SERVE, TO PROTECT, TO PROVIDE YOU, USE YOUR AUTHORITY FOR THAT.

THAT'S WHAT OUR CHARGE IS.

UM, THE FUNNY THING IS MY DAUGHTERS GOT OLDER.

UH, THEY DIDN'T GIVE ME QUITE AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO USE MY AUTHORITY, TO SERVE THEM.

UH, YOU GET OLDER, YOU, THEY GET MORE INDEPENDENCE, 28, 23.

THEY KIND OF DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AT THAT POINT.

AND NOW THAT I HAVE A 28 TO 23 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER, I RELISH THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE MY AUTHORITY TO HELP 'EM, TO LEAN IN, TO PROTECT, TO PRESERVE, TO, TO, TO DO WHAT I CAN TO HELP 'EM.

SO I'M TAKING MY TIME TONIGHT TO, TO, TO POINT OUT THOSE TWO WORDS, OPPORTUNITY AND AUTHORITY.

UM, NONE OF US IN MILL CREEK, CYPRESS RIDGE HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE AND YOU ALL ARE ON THAT SIDE.

YOU, YOU DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO STEP INTO THIS OPPORTUNITY ON OUR BEHALF TO HELP US OUT.

AND WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR THAT TO A PERSON, NONE OF US WANTS COMMERCIAL SPACE UP FRONT.

NONE OF US DO, THEY'RE GONNA DEVELOP IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

IT'S GONNA BE RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S GONNA BE COMMERCIAL.

OUR PREFERENCE IS FOR OUR SAKE THAT IT WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL, WHATEVER IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, FEWER TOWN HOMES, THE CUT THROUGH AND THE NOT CUT THROUGH THE BERM, THE NOT BEM IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

AND WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO STEP INTO THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH YOUR AUTHORITY TO PROTECT US FROM WHAT WE WANT.

SO I'M VERY HUMBLY ASKING YOU TONIGHT TO USE YOUR AUTHORITY, TO HELP OUT AND TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, TO DO WHAT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST.

THANK YOU, MARY HOPPER.

MY, MY QUESTION HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BY THESE GUYS FROM CYPRESS RIDGE.

I AGREE WITH THEM.

AND THEN LASTLY, SHARON BROWN, SHE SAID SHE MAY BE RUNNING.

I'LL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT.

UM, THE TWO THAT KIND OF DID DITO, CAN YOU JUST GET THEIR NAMES IN THE, SO THEY, THAT IS IT WHAT COMMON IS OVER NEXT ARE

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TO THE LEFT.

ANYTHING ON THIS SIDE, SAY MORE TIME.

UH, COUPLE OF THINGS FIRST, UM, WE HAD BUCK ISLAND ROAD.

UM, IT WAS UNDERWATER FLOODING IN THE DITCH IN THE ROAD, UM, DURING OUR HEAVY STORM AND RAIN.

AND I WANT TO THANK ERIC KIM AND STEVEN AS LEADERS.

THEY STOOD IN THE RAIN AND IN THE WATER AND TRYING TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT ONE OF THE RESIDENT HAD A HOME FLOODING AS WELL AS, UM, PERSONNEL OR STAFF FROM PUBLIC WORKS.

THEY WORKED EXTENSIVE TIME TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMEONE HOME, UM, TO REWARD.

THAT REALLY MEANS A LOT WHEN LEADERSHIP PUT THE HANDS ON THE PLOW AND THAT KIND OF SITUATION.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING THAT SECOND.

UM, THE CALHOUN STREET DOC, WHEN WE APPROVED THAT PROJECT WAS, IT WAS CERTAINLY MY INTENTION THAT WE WOULD TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WHEN WE, WITH THE USES THAT IS BOATERS AS WELL AS FISHERS AND CRABS.

IT'S IT IS ONE OF OUR ONLY MEANS OF ACCESS TO THE, TO THE WATER.

SO WE HAVE TO GIVE THAT KIND OF, UM, DUAL PURPOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS FAIR AND IS, IS DONE IN THE MANNER THAT WE, UH, GIVE EACH AND ALL OF OUR USERS, UM, FAIR ACCESS, NOT SPEAK SAYING THAT THERE'S TOO MANY BOAT SLIPS IN THE, OR THERE'S BOTH SLIPS IN THE AREA WHERE WE THINK CRAB IS AND FISHING SHOULD BE.

SO, UM, IMMEDIATELY I I'M ASKING COUNCIL AS WELL AS STAFF TO REMOVE THE BOAT SLIPS THAT'S ON THE FAR END OF THE, OF THE DOCK AND CONSIDER WITH STAFF TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE IN, UM, UM, RULES THAT SAYS THE FISHER ARE, HAVE TO GIVE MORE LENIENCY TO THE BORDERS ARE WORD OF, TO THAT EFFECT.

I THINK IF WE DESIGNATE THE AREA WHERE THE FISHES OR CRABS ARE, THEN THAT LANGUAGE SHOULD BE BOTH, YOU KNOW, WE, MY DESIGNATED AREA IN YOUR DESIGNATED AREA.

SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY RULES THAT FAVOR ONE OVER THE OTHER.

SO I'M ASKING COUNCIL TO GIVE THAT SOME CONSIDERATION, ESPECIALLY TONIGHT TO MOVE THE CLEATS OR THE SLIPS SO THAT WE CAN, UM, AND, AND POSSIBLY PUT UP A SIGN THAT SAYS FISHING AND CRABBING ON ME.

UH, IS THAT AN ORDINANCE? IT SO ON THE ORDINANCE REQUEST OR NOT TO GO THROUGH AND DEBATE WHEN NOBODY KNEW THIS WAS COMING AT US, CUZ WE NEED IT ON PAPER.

DO Y'ALL WANT STAFF TO WORK ON LOOKING AT THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS READ TO MAKE IT MORE USER FRIENDLY, I GUESS FOR BOATERS AND CRABBERS AND FISHERMEN ARE Y'ALL.

YEAH, WELL THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

I I'M NOT.

UM, I THINK WE KIND OF USED TO IT WHAT THE COUNTY ORDINANCE SAID, YOU KNOW, FOR THE REST OF THE PUBLIC DOCKS WITHOUT WITHIN THE COUNTY, WE, WE KIND OF COPIED WHAT THEIR RULES WERE AND, AND THOSE RULES ARE THAT IF YOU'RE FISHING OFF OF THE DOCK AND A BOAT'S COMING IN, YOU HAVE TO MOVE YOUR LINE UNTIL THE BOAT CAN GET TIED UP.

DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO LEAVE OR ANYTHING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT FRED'S ASKING OR WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING YOU ON WHICH END OF THE DOCK ARE THEY WANTING TO BE DESIGNATED? YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE DESIGNATED FOR FISHING.

AND ONE THAT'S NOT, I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, BUT TO JOKE ON HIS, AND ACTUALLY I WAS TALKING TO STEVEN A. LITTLE BIT TODAY ABOUT THE, THE CONCERN WITH ONE OF THE LADIES THAT GOES OUT IN FISHES.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.

SO I'D LIKE US TO, IF WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THE ORDINANCE, BRING IT BACK.

WHERE THE LITTLE LADIES, AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE LEFT, THE TWO CLEATS ON THE INSIDE ARE GONE, BUT NOT ON THE OUTSIDE.

BUT THE CLEATS I KNOW SITTING RIGHT HERE, WHEN WE DID THAT DOCK, WE WANTED SIX FEET ON THE RIGHT AND SIX FEET ON THE LEFT, INSIDE, OUTSIDE REVERSE.

CUZ THE LADY WHO FISHES HERE IN THE MORNING'S GONNA GO ON THE OTHER END OF THE DOCK AND FISH IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN THE TIDE CHANGES AND CLEATS ARE ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE DOCK ON BOTH SIDES.

AND I DON'T KNOW, THEY WEREN'T THERE IN THE PAST.

I DON'T KNOW OVER TIME THEY WERE PUT IN OR TAKEN UP.

BUT I THINK WHAT FRED IS ASKING IS TO TAKE TWO CLEATS WHERE YOU GO DOWN THE RAMP, THERE ARE TWO CLEATS ON THAT RIGHT SIDE.

AND I NEVER INTENDED PERSONALLY WANTED A BOAT

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SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING PUBLIC WORKS COULD LOOK AT.

WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SENSE OF IT.

MAYBE EVEN MARK THE DOC, BUT DO YOU WANT US TO WORK ON A, ON AN IT ON, YOU KNOW, NOT BECAUSE NONE OF US KNOW WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS, YOU KNOW, HAVE, CAN BRING IT BACK TO US AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE USE.

WE COULD, WE COULD REVIEW IT.

BUT I, I MEAN, I DO REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE WERE DEBATING THIS, WE LOOKED AT BOTH FISHING AND BOATING AND THE FISHING.

WHAT I, WHAT I'VE SEEN THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME IS AT THE FAR END OF THE DOCK, NOT WHERE THE RAMP COMES DOWN, THE FAR END IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE FISH.

AND I THINK YOU WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY BECAUSE WHERE THE BOAT ACCESS EGM EGRESSES IN AND OUT RIGHT THERE NEAR THE, THE LADDER.

SO YES, I AGREE WITH THAT.

AND UM, JUMP SOMETHING.

THAT'S AN EASY THING TO ACCOMPLISH.

UM, THAT THEY'LL BE GOING AROUND THE COUNTRY AND HIGHLIGHTING, UM, AND PRESERVING, UM, GU HISTORY AND CULTURE AS WELL AS BLACK HISTORY AND CULTURE.

WELL, AS FAR AS THE, WHERE THEY FISH YOU FISH ON THE DEPENDS ON WHICH WAY THE TIDE'S GOING.

THAT'S GONE.

I REMEMBER SAYING TIDE'S GOING OUT, YOU'RE ON THE FAR END OF TIDE'S COMING IN.

YOU'RE ON THE RAMP END.

SO, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'D BE OPEN TO LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE OKAY.

THAT WE CAN FIX THAT.

UM, AND MAYBE TAKE SOME OF US OUT THERE.

I WENT AND TOOK PICTURES TODAY.

I ABSOLUTELY SEE WHAT WAS, THERE WAS NOT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS GONNA, I DIDN'T THINK THE CLEATS WOULD BE ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE RIGHT AND LEFT SIDE OF THE FLOATING DOCK.

SO YEAH.

AND WE'LL BE MORE GLAD TO, AND UM, AND PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT COUNCILMAN HAMILTON I HAD, UM, AND DOING SOME RESEARCH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WAS A GOOD BIT OF DISCUSSION AND SOME OF THE CLEATS WERE MOVED AND, AND DONE AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, BUT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE IT, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND TO PROVIDE FISHING OFF BOTH ENDS, MAKE SURE THAT'S HELD IN PLACE AND STILL MAKE SURE THERE'S THERE'S PLACES FOR BOTH STUFF.

SO WE'LL BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNCIL.

WE'LL GET IT IN THE PIPELINE.

UM, MAYBE IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, ONE MORE QUESTION ON THIS DISCUSSION, UM, HELP ME WITH THIS MEMORY WISE, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE WANT TO DO THIS.

UM, I DON'T THINK WE BUILT THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THE DOCK WITH WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD ACCESSIBLE TO US.

DID WE, DID WE ACTUALLY, FOR ME, I FELT LIKE IT WAS, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT IT WAS LONGER THAN IT SHOULD HAD TO CHANGE IT.

CHUCK AND MARSHALL.

WELL, BUT IF YOU, IF IT WASN'T, AS LONG AS IT IS NOW, IT MAKE THE FISHING EVEN MORE.

CAN YOU LOOK AT THE CLEATS BEFORE YOU TOOK THIS ON A AGENDA? YEAH.

WE'LL LOOK AT THE CLEATS.

CAUSE PART OF WHAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL WAS WHERE THE BOATS WERE GONNA DOCK AS WELL AS THE RULES.

SO WE'LL BRING ALL THAT BACK TOGETHER SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET COUNCIL'S APPROVAL ON BOTH AND GO AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND REVIEW IT.

WHAT MAKE THAT YOU SAYING YOU WANNA WAIT BEFORE YOU MOVE THE POLICE TIL TILL OCTOBER? WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND, AND I'LL LEAN ON GO FROM CAMP.

CAUSE I DIDN'T DID, IF THEY'RE IN HERE DID A LOT OF THE RESEARCHER, PAT THE, WITH THE CLEAN POSITIONS APPROVED AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE, THEY'RE SEPARATE.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THE CLEATS, BUT THE ORDINANCE FOR THE GIVEN RIGHT AWAY TO THE BOATERS WILL HAVE TO BRING SEPARATE.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO WITH THEM AND WALK DOWN THERE, I AND SENT YOU THE TWO PICTURES I TOOK TODAY.

I IT'S ONLY FOUR FLEETS AND WE HAVE A QUARTERLY WORKSHOP COMING UP THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IN OCTOBER.

BUT I, I, I HESITATE UNTIL WE KNOW HOW WE WANT TO HAVE THE BOAT SET UP, TO START MOVING CLEATS AROUND AND HAVE TO MOVE THEM AGAIN.

IF IT DOESN'T END UP BEING RIGHT, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK INTO IT AND WE'LL GET IT SQUARED AWAY.

WHETHER WE MOVE THEM.

NOW WE'LL, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE NOW, WE'LL BE MORE GLAD TO LET'S PUT THAT AS A PRIORITY.

AND WHOEVER HERE WANTS TO GET WITH THEM TO GO DOWN THERE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA INTERFERE.

I WE'RE DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME.

I LOVE IT.

IT'S NEVER BEEN OVERRUN BY BOATS.

I WAS ALWAYS WORRIED TO BE 12 BOATS THERE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT THAT MANY THEY'RE RESPECTFUL, BUT I DON'T WANT THE CULTURE OF IT ALL WITH THE PEOPLE FISH IN THAT LAYER, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE TOWN.

WE CAN GET THAT ADDRESSED IF COUNCIL, UNLESS TWO OR LESS CLEATS WILL KEEP A VOTE FROM EVEN GO IN THERE AND THEN THEY HAVE YOUR LEFT AND RIGHT.

GOT THAT.

ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR, COUNCIL, ANY THOUGHTS? ANYTHING? I JUST WANTED TO, UM, UPDATE EVERYONE.

I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE THE, UM, NATIONAL AFRICAN AMERICAN SMITHSONIAN MUSEUM, UM, COLLABORATED, UH, WITH ME ON A PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO SHINE A LIGHT ON BLUFFTON AND THEY WERE VERY PEOPLE AND GRATEFUL OF TOWN STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS, WHO COORDINATED, UM, THEIR TIME HERE.

AND THEY DEFINITELY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING BACK AND DOING SOME MORE PARTNERSHIPS WITH US.

IS THAT AN ARTICLE OR A INTRODUCTION? UM, THEY'VE LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM IT'S CALLED DREAMS AND TREASURES.

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AND THE FIRST SEGMENT WAS, UM, FOCUSED ON LOW COUNTRY, THE GULLAH LIFE HERE IN LOW COUNTRY, AS WELL AS, UM, THE HISTORY AROUND QUILTING AND QUILTING CIRCLES.

CAN YOU GET LINK TO THAT? HAS IT BEEN AIRED? UM, IT HAS NOT BEEN AIRED YET.

IT WILL BE, UH, IT WILL AIR IN OCTOBER THROUGH THEIR, UM, STREAMING PLATFORM ONLINE AS WELL AS IT'LL BE FEATURED, UM, IN THEIR TV ROOMS. AND SO WHEN THAT COMES OUT, I'LL UPDATE EVERYONE AND MAKE SURE IT GETS ADDED.

THEY WILL BE GIVEN CREDIT TO THE TOWN OF BOOKS, TIA OR DEBBIE, SOMEBODY GET IT ANYTHING, I DON'T KNOW, JUST TWO THINGS.

WE USUALLY HAVE A PROCLAMATION IN SEPTEMBER FOR OVARIAN CANCER.

UM, MONTH WE DEALT WITH IT IN OUR LEFTON FAMILY.

UH, UH, STAFF MEMBER'S WIFE, UH, PASSED AWAY FROM OVARIAN CANCER AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS BROUGHT US THE RIBBONS TO PUT UP.

AND THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOSS AND A LITTLE BIT IN COMMUNICATION, BUT I DID WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WE WERE SENDING A PROCLAMATION TO THAT GROUP FROM THE TOWN OF WALTON THAT WE DO RECOGNIZE THIS AS OVARIAN CANCER MONTH.

AND YOU PROBABLY WILL SEE RIBBONS COME KIND OF MID-SEPTEMBER HOPEFULLY THAT WE CAN PUT UP.

AND THEN I WENT TODAY TO BITTEN HOUSE TO READ THE PROCLAMATION TO THAT ONE AMAZING GROUP OF MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE IN AN ASSISTED LIVING IT'S NATIONAL ASSISTED LIVING.

AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD PARENTS IN ASSISTED LIVING, YOU KNOW HOW TREASURED THAT IS FOR PEOPLE LIKE THAT TO SPEND SO MUCH OF THEIR DAY WITH, WITH THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE, ARE LIVING THERE, THEY'RE SOME WITH DISABILITIES.

UM, THERE'S SOME THAT JUST KNOW THEY NEED TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE OUTSIDE THEIR HOME ON MY WISH COVID, WASN'T SO BAD CUZ I THINK WE SHOULD ALL GO THERE AND MEET.

IT REALLY GIVES YOU A SMILE SMILING AT NIGHT.

IT GIVES YOU A FRESH REFLECTION ON LIFE AND ALL THE GOOD THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN AND HELPED US THROUGHOUT THEIR LIFE.

SO THEY SHOULDN'T BE OVERLOOKED.

AND I'M SURE THEY HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT DO NOT LIVE HERE.

SO, UM, IT WAS JUST NICE.

SO IT IS NATIONAL ASSISTED LIVING MONTH, THIS MONTH, ALONG WITH OVARIAN CANCER MONTH.

UM, AND THEN ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS, I THINK A COUPLE OF THE LADIES LEFT, BUT WE WILL ADDRESS THOSE.

I WROTE SOME NOTES AND WE'LL ADDRESS IT WITH STAFF.

WHEN, WHEN THOSE PROJECTS COME BEFORE US ON THE MIDPOINT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ON THIS MONTH'S AGENDA.

AND I DON'T REALLY FOLLOW PLANNING COMMISSION UNTIL AFTER IT'S OVER.

SO WE'LL FOLLOW THAT, UM, AND SEE WHERE THAT LIES TO.

ITEMS, NATALIE, YOU ARE UP CONSIDERATION OF ACCOMMODATIONS TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE FUNDING RECOMMENDING, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR QUARTER JUNE 30TH.

ANYTHING ELSE? MOVING ON FORMAL AGENDA

[IX 1. Consideration of Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee Funding Recommendations for Quarter Ending June 30, 2022 - Natalie Majorkiewicz, Assistant Director of Finance]

I SEE SAM'S HERE ALMOST FRONT ROW AND CENTER.

HAVE A GREAT RALLY CROWD THIS EVENING.

YOU OH I DO.

I SEE QUITE A FEW.

IT'S ALMOST A QUORUM.

GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL.

UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE, UM, OUTGOING CHAIR, SAM, WHAT ARE YOU? HE'S STILL GONNA BE ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT UM, ACTUALLY CHRISTY PARKER IS OUR NEW CHAIR.

WELL CONGRATS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE MR. TIM WOOD.

SO THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

UM, ATAC MET ON AUGUST 16TH TO REVIEW ONE APPLICANT FOR THIS QUARTER.

UM, WE HAVE OVER 2.3 OR NEARLY $2.3 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR DISTRIBUTION.

UM, THAT IS SPLIT BETWEEN BOTH STATE AND LOCAL ACCOMMODATIONS TAXES.

UM, DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETING, I JUST WANNA BRIEFLY TOUCH UPON, UM, STAFF HAS TAKEN BACK DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE ABOUT UPDATING THE APPLICATION TO MAKE IT MORE ELECTRONIC AND USER FRIENDLY AND THEN ALSO SUBMITTING IT ELECTRONICALLY.

UM, ADDITIONALLY THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED TO REMOVE OUT OF MARKET ADVERTISING BUDGET FROM THE 50, 50, UM, BASIS TO ALLOW FOR GREATER REQUEST AND ASK OF THE, UM, ORGANIZATIONS.

UM, IS THAT A CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE SEEN ON THAT WE HAVE HAD, WE HAVE SO MUCH MONEY, BUT THEN WE COULD TURN AROUND AND HAVE NO MONEY.

SO WE HAVE HAD, UM, ACTUALLY THE MAY RIVER THEATER CAME IN AND, UM, AAC HAD REQUESTED THAT THEY COME BACK WITH A MORE ENHANCED BUDGET FOR ADVERTISING TO THEN, UM, PERMIT FOR MORE FUNDS FOR THEIR, UM, PERFORMANCES.

SO WE HAVE SEEN WHERE IT WILL, UM, ADD MORE VALUE TO THE ORGANIZATIONS AND TO THE PROJECTS.

UM, SO WE HAVE ONE APPLICANT, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

IT IS THE HILTON HEAD, BLUFFTON ARTS AND SEAFOOD FESTIVAL.

THEY ARE REQUESTING $80,000.

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DO YOU WANNA DO IT RIGHT NOW? OKAY.

LARRY IS RECUSING HIMSELF THAT HE CAN STILL SIT HERE.

YOU JUST CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS AND NO TALKING.

UM, THE FESTIVAL IS SCHEDULED TO BE HELD OCTOBER 15TH THROUGH THE 23RD AND THEY ARE REQUESTING SUPPORT FOR ADVERTISING, FIRE AND SECURITY SERVICES AND TOURISTS TRANSPORTATION.

UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, SOME AAC MEMBERS AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE ONE, UM, APPLICATION THIS QUARTER.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE THAT'S HERE JOINING US TONIGHT, ANYONE OVER HERE? OKAY.

THERE'S A, A REQUEST.

OOPS, OOPS.

I'VE MISSED IT.

SO ON THE HISTORIC ARTS AND SEAFOOD FESTIVAL AMOUNT REQUESTED 80,000 AMOUNT RECOMMENDED IS 80,000.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION? AND I'M, I'M SORRY THERE, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

UM, BUT THE ATAC DID RECOMMEND THE 80,000 WITH ALSO THE AVAILABILITY OF EXTRA FUNDS, UM, FOR ANY COSTS INCURRED THAT ARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO TOURISTS.

SO IT COULD POTENTIALLY INCREASE WOULDN'T THEY HAVE TO COME BACK.

NO, CAN THAT HAPPEN? I SEE THE MOTION, BUT THAT'S A REALLY OPEN-ENDED YES.

I WAS GONNA SAY I SAW IT IN THE REPORT AND I'M YEAH, THAT'S I, I THINK BECAUSE THERE'S A FORMULA BREAKDOWN, FORMULA BREAKDOWN THAT WAS APPROVED BY AAC.

I, IN MY OPINION, Y'ALL HAVE THE DISCRETION TO DO THAT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE DISCRETION TO LIMIT THAT OR JUST REMOVE THAT ANY ADDITIONAL EXPENSE LANGUAGE AND FORCE THEM TO COME BACK IF NECESSARY.

I GOT A QUESTION.

WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT THAT WAS AWARDED LAST YEAR? 70,070? YES, SIR.

MY, OKAY, COME BACK.

I MEAN, I GUESS I'D GO TO SOMEONE IT'S LIKE A LEAN AND MEAN MACHINE AND EVERYONE KNOWS COSTS NOW FROM SIX MONTHS AGO OR A YEAR AGO THAT THEY'VE GONE UP AND I WOULD'VE RATHER THEM ASK FOR MORE AND YOU JUST, YOU PAY ON RECEIPT THAN LEAVE THAT OPEN.

I JUST THINK IT OPENS US UP.

IT IS REIMBURSEMENT BASED.

UM, SO WE DO REQUEST AND RECO, WE REQUIRE THE RECEIPTS TO COME IN SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT THE, UM, EXPENSES WERE.

UM, THERE WAS A COMMENT BY THE ORGANIZATION THAT THE SECURITY EXPENSES HAVE INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY SINCE, UM, SINCE IT WAS SUBMITTED.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE CONVERSATION CAME INTO PLAY.

WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S, EVERYTHING'S INFLATED IN PRICED THESE DAYS, BUT STILL I THINK WHAT GIVES US DOESN'T PUT US, UM, IN A PICKLE OR SET OF PRECEDENCE.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOWED A PROCESS THAT THEY COME BACK AND SHOW THAT THEY DO DESERVE.

CAN YOU CALL A SPECIAL MEETING OR IS THERE A STATE REQUIREMENT THAT CAN BE QUARTERLY IT'S IT'S QUARTERLY, BUT, UM, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY HAVE THEM COME IN.

UM, SO OUR NEXT, UH, SO IT'S THE END OF THIS QUARTER, UM, FOR APPLICATIONS AND THEN DECEMBER 30TH, 31ST WOULD BE THE NEXT QUARTER DEADLINE, WHICH WOULD BE AFTER THE FESTIVAL.

SO THEY COULD COME IN WITH THEIR TOTAL EXPENSES AND THEIR BUDGET AND THEN REQUEST FOR MORE FUNDS AT THAT TIME, IF THAT'S WELL, IT'S GOING LIKE IN BETWEEN THE TWO, CAN THEY ASK, NOT CALL AN EMERGENT, CAN YOU NOT CALL AN EMERGENCY MEETING IN LIKE, WHEN WILL THEY, WHEN WILL, I KNOW THEY HAD TO GO JUNE.

SO IT ENDED JUNE AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA BETWEEN JUNE AND OCTOBER.

AND I LO I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS EVENT.

IT'S AWESOME.

BUT YOU DON'T WANNA SET A PRECEDENT FOR THE NEXT PERSON THAT SAYS, BUT Y'ALL DID IT FOR THEM AND THEN WE'RE IN A BUNCH OF TROUBLE.

SO YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION TOO.

COULD YOU NOT DO IT OCTOBER, HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IF AAC WOULD WANNA MEET, JUST TO RECAP AN EVENT THAT THE TOWN SUPPORTS TOO.

SO I THINK YOU CAN DO A LITTLE EXTRA FOR A TOWN SPONSORED EVENT.

UM, AND I'M INTERESTED TO SEE IF THE REST OF COUNCIL WOULD BE OPEN IF IT GOES OVER, UH, CERTAIN THRESHOLD.

WE, THERE IS ALSO A SCHEDULED MEETING, A TECH MEETING IN NOVEMBER AS WELL.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL JUST SAY, WOULD IT BE EASIER IF WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID A FEW MONTHS AGO WITH OUR, UM, UH, VENDOR CONTRACTS IN TERMS OF, IF IT GOES OVER CERTAIN THRESHOLD, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD ASK FOR IT TO BE INCLUDED OR FOR APPROVAL OR FOR IT TO COME BACK TO US.

CAUSE IN THE SENSE THAT THEY'RE APPROVED FOR 80,000, ARE WE SAYING THAT WE WANT THEM TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING? IF THEY GO $500 OVER THAT BUDGET? YOU KNOW, FOR ME, FOR ME IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULDN'T SEEMS LIKE I'D ALMOST BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO CALL, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION TO COME BACK FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

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WOULD THAT THEN BE, WHAT WOULD, WOULD WARN US TO SAY WE WOULD WANT THEM TO COME BACK OR IS EVERYONE JUST LIKE ANYTHING OVER THE APPROVED BUDGET NEEDS TO BE, NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT COMES RIGHT BACK TO IT? I, I PERSONALLY, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM THE WAY IT'S BEEN OPERATING ALL THIS TIME.

UM, IT'S A MATTER OF JUST WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IN THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, PUT IT IN THE NUMBER AND, AND AGAIN, IF SHE'D HAVE WENT $5,000 HIGHER, SHE'S GOTTA TURN IN THE RECEIPTS.

AND IT MAY NOT HIT THAT NUMBER ANYWAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE IT OPEN ENDED.

UM, I THINK WE CAN JUST PASS WHAT'S HERE, TAKE THAT PIECE OUT AND, AND MOVE ON.

AND, AND, UM, EVERYBODY LEARNS FROM IT AND DOES IT DIFFERENT NEXT TIME WITH ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL, BUT IS THE WAY THAT IT IS NOW, IF THEY DO EXCEED THAT, AND THERE'S SAYING THE SECURITY FOR INSTANCE IS HIGHER, UM, THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOTTED ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING OVER THAT EIGHTIES, IF WE DON'T.

CORRECT.

IS, IS THAT THE WAY THAT IT WOULD BE? NO, THEY COULD COME BACK.

THEY CAN COME BACK.

AND WE'VE GOT, THIS IS SO DIFFERENT.

THIS IS STATE LAW.

THIS IS STATE RULES AND WE HAVE TO DOT OUR ODDS AND CROSS OUR TS A LOT CLOSER THAN OTHER THINGS.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I GO BACK, THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SO MANY YEARS.

WHY NOT THAT BUFFER? WHY NOT PUT IN THAT BUFFER AND SAY, I'M HAVE YOU COME UP HERE, COME UP HERE.

YOU GOTTA GET TO THE MICROPHONE.

THIS FOR CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU GUYS.

UH, THE WAY THE MOTION WAS WAS, WAS MADE WAS THAT FOR THE REIMBURSABLE COST, FOR, FROM THE AAX FUNDS THAT WERE ATTRIBUTED TO THE TOURISM PORTION OF WHAT THEY DID.

SO THEY JUST CAN'T COME IN AND GIVE YOU A HERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $20,000.

IT HAS TO BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE FIXED COST THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR AAX FUNDS AND AS A PERCENTAGE THAT IT RELATED TO THE TOURISM DRAW.

SO THE TWO THINGS THAT WE NEVER KNOW GOING IN, AND OF COURSE OUR APPLICANTS, DON'T, THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR BUDGETS WAY BEFORE THEY PRESENT TO US.

MM-HMM AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE APT TO CHANGE.

AS WE GET CLOSER TO THEIR EVENT FROM ADVERTISING, WHICH IS A FIXED COST, BUT AS FAR AS THE FACILITIES, SECURITY, UH, TRASH, THE STAGE, THE STUFF THAT THEY'RE DOING, THOSE ARE AP TO CHANGE.

AND SO WHAT WE HAD THE WAY THE MOTION WAS PRESENTED WAS AS IT'S AT TRIVIAL TO THE AAX PER THE PERCENTAGE OF TOURISM.

SO THE, THE DEAL WOULD BE THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY INCREASE THEIR, THEIR THING ON THE ATTRIBUTAL THINGS THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

SO, UH, THEY CERTAINLY CAN'T GO ABOVE THE 50% OF THE REQUEST OF WHAT THEY WERE, BUT IT'S ONLY AS A PERCENTAGE TO THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WOULD BE INCURRED FROM THE PLANNING STAGES FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO TO THE ACTUAL EVENT IN OCTOBER, IN OCTOBER.

SO AS A BIG TIMEFRAME IN BETWEEN THERE, THAT THEY'RE PUTTING BUDGETS TOGETHER TO PRESENT TO ATAC COMMITTEE, TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY THEN CONTRACT THAT STUFF OUT.

SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO WITH A BIG EVENT IS TO GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO KNOW THAT THE FUNDING COULD BE AVAILABLE IF THEY NEED IT, BUT CERTAINLY THEY HAVE TO PRESENT THE RECEIPTS.

AND IF IT'S, UH, $10,000 AND THEY GOT 40% OF, OF TOURISM, THEY GET 4,000 AT 10,000, THEY INCURRED, DOES THAT CLARIFY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO? YEAH, I, I UNDERSTAND.

I APPRECIATE THE OUT OF THE BOX ON IT.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

BUT IF IT'S OVER, IF IT'S AN OCTOBER EVENT, BY THE TIME THEY GET THEIR RECEIPTS, IT'LL BE A NOVEMBER MEETING ANYWAY, MM-HMM SO THAT WAY WE KEEP EVERYONE IT, HOWEVER WE WANTED TO DO IT.

WHAT, WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS KIND OF LET THE, THE, THE, UM, FESTIVAL KNOW THAT THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL, BECAUSE IT, IT, AS WE ALL KNOW, POST COVID, THE WORLD'S CHANGED THE, THE COST THAT USED TO BE KIND OF A FIXED RATE FOR THEM HAVE, FROM EVERYTHING FROM SECURITY TO STAGING TO TRASH PICKUP, IT'S ALL BEEN SUCH A CHANGE THING.

AND WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, UM, OUR PEOPLE WHO ARE REQUESTING A TAX MONEY KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME TIME OF, OF, IF WE, IF THEY KNOW, I WOULD RATHER SEE THEM COME IN AFTER THE FACT THAN BEFORE THE FACT TRYING TO MAKE YOUR BUDGETS WORK WITHIN THAT STUFF.

SO THAT'S, THAT WAS THE RATIONALE FOR US SAYING, WE'RE GOOD FOR YOUR 80, BUT IF YOU INCUR, IT HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AGO, WE KIND OF DID THE SAME THING WHERE THEY, BUT THEY, YOU CAME BACK TO, BUT IT CAME BACK TO US.

IT DOES KEEP THE PRECEDENT THERE, BUT SORRY, THANK NO, SAM, WE LIKE YOU HERE.

IT, I THINK JUST THE MONTH, I DON'T KNOW, THAT WILL CHANGE YOUR MIND, BUT I DID.

I THINK

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YOU YOU'RE THE HISTORIAN OF THAT GROUP, SO YEAH.

AND IT'S KIND OF UNANIMOUS THAT WE WANT YOU TO COME BACK.

I MEAN, UP HERE AT THIS TABLE, I MEAN, AND I THINK Y'ALL WANT THEM TO COME BACK AND WE ALL WANT THAT TO BE A SUCCESSFUL EVENT.

I THINK THE, WELL, MY LAST COMMENT, I THINK THE LARGER CONTEXT HERE WAS JUST KNOWING, OR THOSE WHO WILL PUT ON EVENTS, JUST HAVING THE ASSURANCE, THAT THAT OPTION IS THERE.

AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE, UM, WILL SCOFF ON BECAUSE THEY DO SUBMIT THEIR, UM, PROJECT BUDGETS MONTHS IN ADVANCE BEFORE THE ACTUAL EVENT.

AND THINGS DO CHANGE JUST AS YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S DONE IT, YOU KNOW, THINGS WILL CHANGE.

AND SO, UM, WE DEFINITELY WANNA ENCOURAGE THOSE WHO WILL CONTINUE TO PUT EVENTS ON TO DO THAT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, FEEL THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO EAT POT FOR THEIR EVENT, JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS GONE UP AS LONG AS THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ABIDING BY THOSE STIPULATIONS.

AND I THINK THAT COULD BE GOOD COMING STRATEGIC PLAN.

IF WE TALK ABOUT AAX MAYBE YOUR GROUP, WE NEED A WORKSHOP, WE'VE GOT MONEY.

WE HAVE OUT, WE HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE INTIMIDATED TO COME AND ASK FOR MONEY FROM ANYBODY, NOT JUST BLUFFTON, AND WE'VE GOTTA REACH OUT TO THEM SO WE CAN PUT SOME OF THIS MONEY BACK INTO THIS COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, MAYBE TAKE HER COMMENTS AND HOW SHE CAN WORK IT AROUND STATE LAW.

AND IF IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CHANGE AS A PROCESS PROCESS, I'M LEARNING THAT FROM MY COUNCIL PEOPLE UP HERE THAT IT'S THE SAME FOR EVERYBODY.

AND EVERYONE KNOWS ALL OF THIS, THAT WE WON'T PUT IT IN THEIR HANDS.

I, I PERSONALLY IT'S EASY.

LET'S MOVE ON.

SO IF THERE GOING BACK TO MY MOTION AHEAD, THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION OF 80.

IS THERE A MOTION IN SUPPORT OF 80,000 FOR THE HISTORIC LEFT AND ARTS AND SEAFOOD FESTIVAL AS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT? I'M NOT LOOKING AT YOU.

IS THERE SECONDS? THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? WERE YOU GONNA SAY SOMETHING? NO.

ANY DISCUSSED.

MR. TUMOR HAS RECUSED HIMSELF.

SO IT'LL BE A FOUR VOTE ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING, AYE.

OPPOSED.

THAT'S FOUR WITH ONE RECUSAL.

AND I KNOW WE'LL SEE THEM IN DECEMBER CUZ SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY.

I THINK.

NUMBER TWO UNDER FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS, CONSIDERATION OF AN IGA INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY, JASPER COUNTY TOWN OF BLUFFTON TOWN OF HILTON MED CITY OF VILLE, TOWN OF PORT ROYAL CITY OF BEAUFORT AND TOWN OF YEY TO CREATE A REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND.

WE ARE SORRY.

I JUST LOST TOMORROW.

AGENDA.

NEXT IS ITEM

[IX 2. Consideration of an Intergovernmental Agreement Between Beaufort County, Jasper County, Town of Bluffton, Town of Hilton Head Island, City of Hardeeville, Town of Port Royal, City of Beaufort, and Town of Yemassee to create a Regional Housing Trust Fund – Stephen Steese, Town Manager]

MR. SP, YOU ARE UP MAYOR COUNSEL, THIS THE PRESENTATION'S NOT LONG.

I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.

UM, AND I KNOW, UH, THE MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN HAMILTON ARE ON SO LOCO AND COUNCILMAN WOOD WAS ACTUALLY INVOLVED WITH THE RESEARCH THAT WENT INTO, UM, THE REPORT FROM, UM, THAT WAS CREATED BY, UM, AS AUR ROBINSON.

UM, IF THAT'S HOW YOU PRONOUNCE IT AS AUR, UM, THAT WAS PRESENTED TO SO LOCO.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, PROVIDE UPDATE, AND I'M GONNA KIND OF GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND IN DETAIL, AS WELL AS GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE IGA, SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

UM, SO THE SOLO WAS ASKED BY PARTICIPATING ENTITIES TO APPOINT REPRESENTATIVES, TO COMPLETE A REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

THIS WAS DONE IN, UM, PRESENTED TO SOLO IN AUGUST OF 2021.

SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE KIND OF BEEN HAVING DISCUSSION ON HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND SET UP AND IN PLACE THE, UM, REPORT OUTLINED THE NEED FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, THE MEMBERS ALSO WORKED TO DRAFT AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT.

UM, THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED IT, THE TOWN MANAGERS AND ADMINISTRATORS GOT TOGETHER, PUT A PROPOSAL TOGETHER, TOWN ATTORNEYS, UH, FOR THE MOST PART REVIEWED AS WELL AS THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS AND, UM, WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO SO LOCO WAS PRESENTED IN JULY OF 26TH OF THIS YEAR.

UM, THE POTENTIAL PARTNERS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF BLUFFTON, WHERE BEAUFORT AND JASPER COUNTY, CITY OF BEAUFORT, HARDY HILTON HEAD ISLAND, PORT ROLE IN YEY, UH, TODAY YEY AND HARDY HAVE ADOPTED.

I KNOW, UM, BEAUFORT HAS IT ON THEIR AGENDA, THEIR MEETING TONIGHT AS WELL TO REVIEW AND HILTON HAD ISLAND HAS IT NEXT

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MONTH.

UM, NOT SURE ABOUT JASPER AND PORT YET, BUT I'VE REACHED OUT TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY WERE AT IN THE PROCESS.

THE ANTICIPATION WOULD BE THAT EVERYBODY REVIEW AND DISCUSS IT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO THE OCTOBER.

SO LOCO MEETING AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE AT THAT TIME.

SO TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE IGA AND HIT SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS, IT DOES DEFINE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS NOT EXCEEDING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE AREA, MEDIAN INCOME.

IT ALSO OUTLINES THAT PRIORITY BE GIVEN TO PROJECTS THAT ARE AT OR BELOW 60% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

UM, IT ALSO ALIGNS THE PRIORITIES OF THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND.

WITH THOSE THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THE ASURA ROBINSON 2021 REPORT, IT ALSO ASKS EACH PARTICIPATING MEMBER TO APPOINT ONE PERSON TO THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND OVERSIGHT BOARD, AND EACH PERSON THAT IS APPOINTED EACH PARTICIPATING JURISDICTION WILL HAVE ONE VOTE AS PART OF THAT BOARD.

SO REGARDLESS OF THE FUNDING FUNDING AMOUNTS, EACH JURISDICTION COUNTS AS ONE VOTE.

SO THAT'S ONE THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT COUNCIL BE, WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR APPOINTING APPOINTING A MEMBER TO THIS OVERSIGHT BOARD.

UM, THIS OVERSIGHT BOARD WOULD OUTLINE THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND.

IT WOULD ALSO DRAFT AND ADOPT BYLAWS AND IT WOULD ALSO BE THE ONE THAT WOULD VOTE TO ALLOCATE FUNDS TO PROJECTS AND ADVOCATE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I KNOW DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, ONE OF THE QUESTION, ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS ABOUT TRYING TO GET FUNDING FASTER.

ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THE BOARD IS TO TRY TO FIND GRANTS AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN GET, WHETHER IT'S HOME FUNDS, CDBG DOLLARS TO TRY TO MULTIPLY THE PUBLIC DOLLARS THAT WE ARE, WE WOULD BE PUTTING INTO THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND.

UM, THE BOARD WOULD ALSO DETERMINE HOW TO SET UP THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND FOR OPERATIONS.

THIS COULD BE WHETHER WE'RE GONNA CONTRACT, UM, A 5 0 1 C THREE, OR EXCUSE ME, CONTRACT, UH, A GROUP TO RUN IT.

WHETHER WE'RE GONNA CREATE A 5 0 1 C THREE, WHETHER WE'RE GONNA HIRE EMPLOYEES, THEY WOULD HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO DECIDE HOW THE, UM, ORGANIZATION WOULD BE RUN.

UM, SO THE NEXT STEPS OF COUNCIL IS GOOD WITH MOVING FORWARD WOULD BE FOR ALL THE PARTNERS TO RE REVIEW AND APPROVE.

LIKE I SAID, BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, UM, TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HARDY VILLA AND YEY AND WHERE AND WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE WAS IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS.

UM, ONCE IT IS FINALIZED, ONCE, ONCE IT'S APPROVED, IT WOULD NOT BE FINALIZED UNTIL ALL PARTIES APPROVED IT.

SO EVEN IF COUNCIL APPROVES TONIGHT, IF WE HAVE ONE OF THE EIGHT PARTNERS DECIDES NOT TO APPROVE IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVISIT WHAT THE LANGUAGE, HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT FUNDING, HOW WOULD AFFECT THE BOARD MAKEUP.

WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT AS PART OF THE SOLO AND BRING IT BACK TO ALL THE ENTITIES TO REVISIT AGAIN, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, UM, I WILL SAY THAT AT THE SOLO MEETING, WHEN IT WAS, UH, TIME TO MAKE RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD, IT WAS UNANIMOUS AMONGST EVERYBODY THAT WAS THERE TO SEND IT TO ALL THE JURISDICTIONS TO REVIEW AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, MOVING FORWARD.

UM, THE NEXT STEP AFTER THAT IS COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO APPOINT A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE OVERSIGHT BOARD AND THEN WE WOULD PROVIDE THE INITIAL FUNDING AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

UM, I DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING OUTLINE IN HERE, BUT YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE IGA THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FUNDING IS ACTUALLY OUTLINED FOR YEAR ONE, TO BE 3% OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS AT EACH JURISDICTION RECEIVED.

AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT IT WILL BE BASED ON A PERCENT OF TOTAL POPULATION.

AND IT, UM, IS SET AT $500,000 PER YEAR WITH A 3%, UH, ANNUAL INCREASE PER YEAR.

THAT POINT IN TIME IT'LL BE BASED ON THE POPULATION.

SO IT WILL ADJUST EACH YEAR BASED ON THE POPULATION NUMBER.

SO AS WE'RE GROWING, WE MAY SEE OUR AMOUNT GO UP VERSUS SAY, UH, HILTON HEAD OR BEAUFORT.

WE MAY SEE OUR PROPORTION INCREASE, UH, SAME AS HARDY BILL AS THEY CONTINUE TO GROW, YOU'LL SEE THEIR PORTION INCREASE.

SO INSIDE OF THE PACKET, YOU HAD, UM, A COPY OF THE REPORT.

YOU HAD A COPY OF THE, THE IGA.

SO I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON HOW WE GOT WHERE WE ARE, WHAT THE IGA MAY REPRESENT, UM, AND WHAT THE PROCESS MAY LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD.

SO AT THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL, UM, QUESTIONS, JUST, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING THIS PROCESS AND IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN LONG, LIKE YOU POINTED OUT.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY I SUPPORT IT.

UM, THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT WAS BASED ON GREENVILLE, WHICH LEVERAGED THEIR MONEY TO 20 MILLION.

I THINK IT WAS SAID WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOWN THIS PATH, UM, MAYBE IT'S MAYBE AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THE COMMUNITY WORKS.

UM, THEY'VE GOT ALL THE, THE TOOLS IN THE BOX TO TRY TO

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LEVERAGE, THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO, BUT, BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD, 'EM THROW A NUMBER OUT THERE THAT THEY WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THEY MIGHT POTENTIALLY COME UP WITH A NUMBER.

IT'D BE NICE THAT AT SOME POINT THAT I HAVE AN IDEA.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE MAKING COMMITMENTS AS JURISDICTIONS.

SO MAYBE THE NEXT TIME WE SEE THEM, WE ASK THEM, WELL, THE ONE THING I WOULD EXAMPLE, SORRY, GO AHEAD.

THAT'S IT.

I, I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THE ONE THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS THE ONLY THING THAT COMMUNITY WORKS WITH DISAGREEMENT IS THAT THEY WOULD SERVE AS THE FISCAL AGENT, WHICH MEANS THEY WOULD BE THE CDF, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FINANCE INSTITUTION TO HOLD THE FUNDS UNTIL WE GET THE BOARD IN PLACE AND THEY DECIDE WHO'S GONNA RUN THE DAY TO DAY.

WE CAN'T REALLY ASK THEM TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION.

THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE PART OF THE OVERSIGHT OVERSIGHT BOARDS, DUE DILIGENCE TO SAY, OKAY, HOW CAN YOU HELP US TAKE THE COMMITMENT FROM THESE, UH, JURISDICTIONS AND GO OUT? AND WHETHER IT'S 50 50 MATCH FROM CDBG OR 50 50 MATCH FROM HOME OR LEVERAGING FROM NONPROFITS OR, OR, UH, LOW COUNTRY FOUNDATION OR ANY OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS WHERE THEY MAY BE ABLE TO MATCH THOSE DOLLARS, THAT WOULD, COULD BE PART OF THAT REVIEW PROCESS FOR THAT BOARD.

BUT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT, IT'S HARD TO ASK SOMEBODY TO MAKE A, A COMMITMENT RIGHT NOW.

ANYTHING ELSE, STEVEN? YEAH, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

I, UM, COMMEND EVERYONE.

WHO'S WORKED, YOU KNOW, HARD ON THIS TO TRY TO, TO MAKE THIS SOMETHING, UM, THAT LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES WILL UNITE AROUND, BUT I DO HAVE A CONCERN.

UM, STEVEN, IN TERMS OF, I SEE THAT THE, UM, FUNDS ARE ALLOTTED FROM EACH COMMUNITY FOR A 10 YEAR, UM, TIME PERIOD.

UM, I GUESS IT'S MY CONCERN.

AND IN IT, YOU COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THE CONCERN, BUT IF THE FUNDING IS GOING FOR 10 YEARS, UM, I'M CONCERNED IN BETWEEN THAT TIME PERIOD, UH, WILL CONSTRUCTION OR WILL THE, UM, COMPLETION OF ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, NOT, UM, COMMENCE UNTIL THAT 10 YEAR TIME PERIOD? ARE WE WAITING? NO, MA'AM ONCE THE FUNDING'S GIVEN ANY, AND ONCE THE BYLAWS AND PROGRAMS ARE SET IN PLACE AND I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE IG IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I THINK IT OUTLINES THE BOARD TO HAVE ALL THAT DONE WITHIN SIX MONTHS.

ONCE THEY'RE CREATED THEY'RE TO PUT TOGETHER THE BYLAWS AND CREATE THE GUIDELINES AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA, UM, APPLICATIONS, PROCESS, AND ALL THAT, AND DECIDE WHO THEY'RE GONNA BRING IN TO RUN IT.

UM, BUT ONCE THE FUNDING'S IN PLACE, THE GOAL WOULD BE FOR, AND THE, AND THE BYLAWS ARE SET AND THE PROGRAMMATIC ITEMS ARE SET.

THEN PEOPLE CAN START SEEKING THE FUNDS.

THE GOAL IS NOT FOR THE WAIT.

THE IT'S NOT SET UP TO HAVE TO WAIT THE WHOLE 10 YEARS BEFORE YOU CAN ASK FOR ANYTHING.

ONCE THE FUNDING IS IN THERE, WE CAN GO AFTER IT.

THE 10 YEARS, SIX MONTHS, 10 YEARS IS JUST THE COMMITMENT FROM EACH I ENTITY, CORRECT YOU THE PRETTY MUCH WHAT THE, UH, IN OR OUT CORRECT WHAT THE REPORT SAID IS YOU WANT TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 10 YEAR COMMITMENT BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU GET THE BYLAW SET UP, YOU START, UM, MOVING EVERYTHING FORWARD.

IF YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING TO AT LEAST 10 YEARS WORTH OF FUNDING AND A 10 YEAR PROCESS, THEN YOU'RE REALLY NOT SEEKING LONG TERM TO ADDRESS THIS YEAR.

SO BY HAVING THIS BE 10 YEARS, WE AT LEAST GUARANTEE THERE WILL BE FUNDING FOR 10 YEARS, THAT CAN BE LEVERAGED.

AND WE GUARANTEE THAT THERE'LL BE A REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GUARANTEE WHEN YOU HAVE EIGHT, UM, MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES WORKING TOGETHER, UM, THAT WE WOULD HAVE A REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND FUNDING IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS REGIONALLY FOR THOSE 10 YEARS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN WOOD MENTIONED, UM, THAT GREENVILLE STARTED, UM, SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH THIS.

I ALSO FOLLOWED THE CITY OF ATLANTA THAT STARTED SOMETHING SIMILAR AS WELL WITH THE $50 MILLION, UM, PROJECT, BUT IT WAS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE LOCAL, UM, GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS PRIVATE ONES.

UM, IS THERE SOMETHING SIMILAR BEING CONSIDERED HERE OR IS THIS STRICTLY JUST FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT MINISTER? SO THIS IGA WOULD JUST BE STRICTLY FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE COULDN'T BE FOUNDATIONS OR BANKS OR PRIVATE IN, IN PRIVATE, UM, PARTIES, CONTRACTORS, DEVELOPERS THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS ADDRESSED, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE, THIS IS REALLY JUST THE SEED FUNDING AND THE BASE GROUP TO GET EVERYTHING GOING TO SET THE PROGRAM IN PLACE, CREATE THE BYLAWS, CREATE THE RULES AND, AND GET EVERYTHING MOVING FORWARD.

OR HOUSING OR SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, UM, I DON'T THINK WE OUTLAWED ANY KIND ELECTED OFFICIALS, MR. STEVES, BY SECTION FOUR, IGA FOUR, IT SAYS NO ELECTED OFFICIALS MAY, MAY SERVE.

HOW DO YOU WANT THE, CUZ WE, I KNOW WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL EVERYONE PASSES IT.

SO IT GIVES YOU ABOUT A MONTH, BUT DO WE LOOK AT OUR APPLICATION POOL FOR THE PERSON? ARE THERE REQUIREMENTS, CAN THEY BE ELECTED, NOT ELECTED? HOW IS THAT? WHAT WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING BEFORE WE GET OUR BOARD TOGETHER.

SO WHAT IS THE GROUP'S THOUGHT OF WHO EACH WILL NOMINATE OR IS IT WIDE OPEN? IT IS.

I BELIEVE IF YOU GO INTO THE IGA, DO YOU HAVE I GOT IT RIGHT HERE? IF YOU TELL ME, I, I THINK IT RECOMMENDS THAT AS SOMEBODY THAT HAS EXPERIENCE WITH RE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR RE OR,

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AND THEY'RE THE, EACH MUNICIPALITY, UM, APPOINTS REPRESENTATIVE ON THEIR BEHALF.

AND THEN THERE'S AN AT LARGE AS WELL AS THE DIRECTOR.

SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS? ARE YOU GONNA COME TO US? ARE WE ALL GONNA THROW OUT A NAME OR SO, AND YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT 'EM AND WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS WHO WE NOMINATE OR APPOINT.

MA'AM AND HOW YOU WANNA DO IT.

I WAS TRYING TO PROCESS IT'S.

I DON'T, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION WE COULD HAVE WITH COUNCIL IS, DO YOU WANNA TREAT IT LIKE ANY OTHER BOARD WHERE KEN WOULD ADVERTISE IT OUT AND WE WOULD TAKE APPLICATIONS REVIEW 'EM OR WOULD IT, UM, WITH THIS BEING KIND OF BRAND NEW AND A UNIQUE, UM, COMMITMENT AND PARTNERSHIP.

IF COUNCIL FEELS IT'S BETTER TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT IS Y'ALL REACH OUT AND FIND SOMEBODY TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY AND THEN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

BUT WE DO HAVE ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING PLAN FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR A COUPLE OF, UM, I THINK D R C I AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.

UM, SO WE COULD, IF EVERYTHING GETS IN PLACE, WE COULD LOOK AT HAVING THAT AT OCTOBER MEETING AS PART OF THAT AS WELL.

AND THAT PERSON, IT DOESN'T HAVE, UM, I KNOW KIM GETS CRAZY OVER TERMS, BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW A TERM.

AND, AND I THINK THAT'S THE DISCUSSION.

MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO WITH THE BYLAWS TWO YEARS.

SO TWO YEARS, ALL OF THEM TWO YEARS, ARE WE GONNA STAGGER? SO EVERY TWO YEARS COULD BE A NEW BOARD.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE STAGGERED.

IT HAS TO BE STAGGERED.

THAT COULD BE THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD NEED TO CREATE THEIR BYLAWS, THAT BYLAWS.

SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS STEVEN, IF WE APPOINT A PERSON AND THAT PERSON DOES IT BOTH, THE WAY THAT MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WANTS SEND THE VOTE, HOW SHOULD WE ANY, ANY APPOINTEE TO ANY BOARD SERVES AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL SO THEY CAN LEAVE AS US, AS THEY GOT IN? YES, SIR.

AND THOUGH, ONE THING I WOULD SAY TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE COMING UP, ESPECIALLY ABOUT GETTING INTO THE DETAILS AND THE FUTURE OPERATION OF IT IS WHEN THE DISCUSSION OF THE IGA TOOK PLACE, YOU'RE DEALING WITH EIGHT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, TWO COUNTIES, SIX MUNICIPALITIES, TRYING TO GET TO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE TO IS VERY TAXING.

UM, IF WE GOT INTO THE POINT WHERE WE STARTED TRYING TO MUDDLE THROUGH WHAT IT WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE ON THE BYLAWS AND WHAT IT WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE FOR TERMS, AND WHO'S GONNA BE THIS, WHO'S GONNA SERVE THIS TERM FIRST, WHO'S GONNA PULL THE SHORT STRAW FIRST.

WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE TAKEN A LOT LONGER TO GET THIS TO COUNCIL WHERE WE ARE.

SO THE DISCUSSION WAS LET'S GET SOMETHING JUST TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER.

LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, UM, WHO ALL'S GONNA BE INVOLVED, WHAT THE FUNDING'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE COMMITMENT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, HOW LONG IT'S GONNA BE AND MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TO APPOINT THE BOARD AND WHO'S GONNA HANDLE THE FINANCES.

SO THOSE WERE THE, BUT THAT'S BACK IN OUR LANE THAT'S SO THOSE WERE THE, INSTEAD OF JUST TALKING, RIGHT? SO THOSE, THOSE WERE THE KEY.

LET'S GET IT MOVING FORWARD, LET'S GET OUR BOARD IN PLACE.

AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE THE ONES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA, HOW IT'S GONNA ALL BE SET UP.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S KEY FOR, LIKE I SAID, IT'S KIND OF A UNIQUE APPOINTMENT FOR COUNCIL.

SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS FURTHER Y'ALL MAY WANT TO COME TOGETHER AND FIND SOMEBODY WHO YOU THINK MAY SERVE THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY WELL AS OUR FIRST APPOINTEE TO SET ALL THIS UP.

WELL, WE'LL ALL DISCUSS IT.

LET'S KEEP STEVEN IN THE LOOP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE AND IT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT ON THE, AND YOU DON'T HAVE IT, BUT FOR, FOR THE PEOPLE HERE AND STREAMING, YOU CAN GO TO OUR TOWN SITE AND PULL UP EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT ON ANY OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, NOT JUST, UM, STUDENT PRESENTATION.

SO ATTACHMENT A, I JUST, I ALWAYS THOUGHT OUR BY POPULATION, OUR NUMBER WAS GONNA BE FAR HIGHER THAN THE 3% OF ARPA.

AND IT HAS YEAR TWO, ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT OUR 3% AHAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A TYPO OR NOT.

SO CAN WE DOUBLE CHECK THAT ATTACHMENT? SO THOSE ARE ESTIMATES AND THEY'RE BASED ON 2020 POPULATION.

AND JUST SINCE 2020, OUR POPULATION NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP 3,400.

SO THEY'LL BE ADJUSTED ANNUALLY.

UM, BUT WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK THOSE.

YEAH, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE LEFTON AND HILTON HEAD ARE USUALLY, ALWAYS ON THE SAME ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER.

UM, AND IT'S LESS THAN ARPA.

AND I THOUGHT THAT ATTACHMENT B A LONG TIME AGO, WHEN THEY TRIED TO SWITCH IT TO POPULATION, OUR NUMBER WAS ALMOST DOUBLE JUST, IT WAS, IT WAS WAY IT WAS MORE THAN THAT.

SO JUST A CHECK.

LET'S JUST DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INTERGOVERNMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN BUFORT COUNTY, JASPER COUNTY TOWN OF BLOCK TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, CITY OF VILLE, TOWN OF PORT ROYAL CITY OF BUFORT AND TOWN OF BSC TO CREATE A REGIONAL

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HOUSING TRUST FUND.

SO FEW SECONDS, THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? UM, ONE THING, THERE WAS A SPEAKER AT PUBLIC COMMENT THAT SAID, WHY CAN'T WE GET MORE FASTER? I THINK THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION, IT SHOWS, THIS IS JUST A TOOL THAT CAN BE MAYBE BONDED PRIVATE MONEY SO THAT THE 10 MILLION OR WHATEVER, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT OVER 10 YEARS COULD BE DOUBLE.

AND THEY CAN BE USED TO GO OUT AND BE MATCHES FOR GRANTS AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR OR PROGRAM.

ON TOP OF THE SECOND TOOL WE HAVE, WHICH IS 20% OF ANY, UM, P U D OUTSIDE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, WHICH RULED 92% OF OUR TOWN REQUIRED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT'S A TOOL.

AND ALSO OUR PROJECT HILTON HEADS DOING A PROJECT.

PEOPLE ARE DOING PROJECTS.

SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE TOOLS IN A TOOLBOX.

THIS IS NOT THE END ALL TO END AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, AND, AND TO PIGGYBACK AND NOT TO BELAY OR, OR, OR TAKE IT ANY LONGER IS THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO US FOR ANY OF OUR FUTURE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS TO APPLY AND GET FUNDING TO HELP US.

OH, IT'S EXCITING.

MM-HMM, , CAN'T BELIEVE EIGHT DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTS WITH FIVE TO SEVEN TO 11 PEOPLE HOPEFULLY KNOCK ON WI WILL ALL AGREE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING, AYE, I OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

GOOD, GOOD JOB.

STEVEN AND REPORTABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, AND SO LOCO AND EVERYONE IN THE ROOM THAT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS NEXT.

WE HAVE SECOND

[IX 3. Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Town of Bluffton Code of Ordinances, Chapter 4 – Animals – Second and Final Reading - Heather Colin, Assistant Town Manager]

AND FINAL READING.

THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TOWN OF BLUFF AND CODE OF ORDINANCE IS CHAPTER FOUR ANIMALS.

HEATHER WILL MAKE THIS, THEM PULLED WHERE THERE ARE ANY CHANGES FROM LAST MONTH.

NO, THERE WERE NO CHANGES.

SO DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE LAST READING ON THIS ORDINANCE? NO.

FOUR UNDER, UM, NUMBER NINE FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS, CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF LEFT'S MUNICIPAL CODE OF ORDINANCES.

IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND AND FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TOWN OF LEFTING CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER FOUR ANIMALS.

SO MOVE SECOND, SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, STEP BY SAYING I, I OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS HEATHER.

I THINK THAT WAS FASTER THAN ANYTHING KEVIN'S EVER DONE.

I THINK IT MIGHT FEEL KEVIN CAN MATCH YOU WITH THE NEXT ONE.

YOU CAN DO IT.

KEVIN, NO CHANGES, NO CHANGES.

NEXT IS ITEM

[IX 4. Consideration of Proposed Amendments to the Town of Bluffton’s Municipal Code of Ordinances, Chapter 23, Unified Development Ordinance, Article 5 – Design Standards, 5.15.5, to Increase the Additional Building Type Footprint, and to Provide a Consistent Height for the River House Building Type (Secs. 5.15.5.E and 5.15.8.M.) – First Reading – Kevin Icard, Director of Growth Management]

CHAPTER 23 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, ARTICLE FIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, FIVE POINT 15.5 TO INCREASE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE FOOTPRINT AND TWO, FIVE A CONSISTENT HEIGHT FOR RIVER HOUSE BUILDING TYPES.

THIS IS FIRST READING.

GOOD EVENING.

AND THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY WITHIN THE RIVERFRONT EDGE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE UDO ADMINISTRATOR MAY APPROVE A BUILDING FOOTPRINT UP TO 5,500 SQUARE FEET PROVIDED THAT THE FOOTPRINT AND CHARACTERISTICS OF THE BUILDING TYPE, UM, ARE PERMITTED IN THAT DISTRICT AND IN THAT BUILDING SIZE RANGE.

UM, AS YOU, UH, AS YOU REMEMBER, WE BROUGHT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR A WORKSHOP.

UH, YOU GUYS WERE NODDING YOUR HEADS AND, UM, GIVING US THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE SOME, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THE, UM, TO THE BUILDING HEIGHT.

UH, THAT'S INCONSISTENT IN ONE OF THE CODE SECTIONS, WHICH I'LL BRING UP HERE IN A SECOND, AS WELL AS ALLOWING FOR A LARGER BUILDING FOOTPRINT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE RIVERFRONT, UH, DISTRICT.

JUST A REMINDER, IT'S ONE OF THE FIVE, UM, DISTRICTS IN OLD TOWN.

THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 32 LOTS, UH, 23 OF THEM HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY OR UNDERWAY 21 OF THOSE WA LOTS OR EXCUSE ME, 21 OF THOSE HOMES WERE CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO 2011.

UM, AND THEN THE FORM BASED CODE, WHICH IS THE BUILDING TYPES APPLIES TO IN THIS DISTRICT.

UM, JUST, UH, SO THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES, UH, THAT ARE ALLOWED, UH, THIS IS SPECIFIC FOR THE RIVERFRONT EDGE, WHICH IS THE CARRIAGE HOUSE COTTAGE VERNACULAR CENTER HALL, RIVER HOUSE CIVIC BUILDING, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TABLE.

UM, JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF VARIOUS HOMES THAT ARE IN THE RIVERFRONT, UH, DISTRICT.

UM, AND AS YOU'LL SEE THE ONLY HOUSE IN THIS PICTURE, UH, THIS IS THE ONLY RIVER HOUSE BUILDING TYPE, UH, THAT WE TOOK A PICTURE OF JUST TO SEE THAT THERE IS MULTIPLE TYPES OF HOMES THAT ARE IN THAT DISTRICT.

SO THIS, THE CURRENT TEXT, UM, THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT DEALS WITH WHAT'S, WHAT'S ALLOWED FOR THE, UH, SQUARE FOOT, UH, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE, UH, FOOTPRINT AND SQUARE FOOTAGE SIZE.

UM, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE MADE CHANGES TO THE CODE.

I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN THAT, UM, HIGHLIGHTED THAT INFORMATION, UH, WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE MAXIMUM BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND BUILDING SIZE FOR AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE SHALL NOT EXCEED THE LARGEST FOOTPRINT AND BUILDING SIZE PERMITTED IN THE OTHER BUILDING TYPES FOR THAT SAME ZONING DISTRICT.

WHAT THAT DID WAS THAT, UM, IT KIND OF CLOSED A LITTLE BIT OF A LOOPHOLE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE WAS BUILDING A LARGER BUILDING THAN THE LARGEST BUILDING THAT'S ALLOWED IN THAT DISTRICT.

UM, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE COME UP WITH A PROPOSED CHANGE AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS THE TEXT AND RED, UM, WHERE IT JUST SAYS, EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN THIS SECTION, THE MAXIMUM BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND BUILDING SIZE FOR THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE SHALL NOT EXCEED THE LARGEST FOOTPRINT.

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SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT THIS GIVES THE UDO ADMINISTRATOR, UH, THAT WOULD BE HEATHER, UH, THE ABILITY TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A BUILDING UP TO 5,500 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT.

SO I'M GONNA GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

UM, BUT WHAT THAT DOES IS IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT A PROJECT FIRST TO DETERMINE IF IT'S AN EVEN APPROPRIATE FOR THE RIVERFRONT DISTRICT.

UH, THEY COME IN WITH SOMETHING THAT IS JUST, UH, GROSSLY INAPPROPRIATE.

UM, WE CAN THEN SAY, NO, THAT'S NOT MEETING THAT INTENT AND THAT YOU NEED TO TRY AGAIN.

SO, UM, SO THAT WAS THE, THE ONE PART, UH, THE SECOND PART IS STILL THE CURRENT, UM, TEXT FOR THE INCONSISTENCIES OF THE HEIGHT.

UM, AS YOU REMEMBER, WE NOTICED THAT WE, IN ONE SECTION, WE HAVE THE HEIGHT FOR THE RIVER HOUSE AT 1.5.

WOW.

AND THAT IS HERE.

AND THEN IN THE OTHER SECTION, IT IS AT TWO AND TWO AND A HALF STORIES.

UM, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO REPLACE THAT 1.5 WITH 1.5 TO TWO STORIES AND SAME IN THAT OTHER SECTION TO NOT HAVE IT AS THE 2.2 TO 2.5 TO THE 1.5 TO TWO STORIES, UH, THIS IS, UM, CONSISTENT, UH, WITH THE REVIEW CRITERIA.

UM, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION DID HEAR THIS AT THEIR AUGUST MEETING.

UH, THEY ACTUALLY, UH, WENT THROUGH THIS AND THEY, THEY CONSIDERED ACTUALLY ONLY ALLOWING 3,500 SQUARE FEET.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY FROM A STAFF LEVEL, WE'RE CONCERNED THAT IT'S, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RESTRICTING IT FURTHER THAN WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

AND WE DO HAVE HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY OVER THAT ALLOTMENT AND WE'RE MAKING THEM NONCONFORMING.

UH, THAT'S WHY, UM, WE HAD THE, THE 5,500 SQUARE FOOT ALLOTMENT GO FORWARD.

UH, THIS DIS IT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEY VOTED, UM, AS SUBMITTED FIVE TO ZERO.

UH, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TONIGHT TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, UM, APPROVE WITH ANY, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OR EXCUSE ME, ANY CONDITIONS OR TO DENY THE REQUEST.

UH, THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

UH, THIS WILL BE BACK TO YOU WITH A SECOND, UM, FINAL READING IN PUBLIC HEARING NEXT MONTH.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION FOR YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER HERE? QUESTIONS? UM, JUST AS A MEMORY, I KNOW WHEN WE WORKSHOP THIS, YOU BROUGHT UP THE, AND IT'S JUST RIVERFRONT.

AND MY MIND DOESN'T TAKE ME REALLY TO A VACANT LOT, BUT A LOT OF OLDER HOMES THAT WERE BUILT WAY BEFORE, PROBABLY EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, MAYBE NOT FRED AND LARRY AND BRIDGE, UM, LIVED HERE.

AND SO THEY'RE WANTING TO MAKE ADDITIONS AND THEY CAN'T GO UP BECAUSE THE HOUSE IS SO MUCH OLDER, SO, YEP.

MA'AM I JUST, A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.

I WANTED THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE KIND OF MORE COMPASSION FOR AN OLDER POPULATION THAT NOW MAYBE NEEDS TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONS.

CORRECT.

AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF NOT MAKING THINGS NONCONFORMING, EVEN THOUGH THAT NUMBER'S SCARY, BUT YOU STILL CAN LOOK AT THE FOOTPRINT TO MAKE SURE IT SITS WITHIN THE SETBACKS.

AND ALL OF THAT.

AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE LOTS ARE OVER AN ACRE.

UM, SO TO, TO RESTRICT THE, THE SMALLER HOUSES, UM, IT, IT DOES, IT DOES HAVE SOME CHALLENGES.

WELL, IF NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFF AND CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE FIVE, TO INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT FOR ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE IN THE RIVERFRONT EDGE HD ZONING DISTRICT, AND TO PROVIDE A CONSISTENT HEIGHT FOR THE RIVER HOUSE BUILDING TYPE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOVE ONE, Y WANT A SECOND, SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED.

AND WE'LL SEE THAT SECOND READING NEXT.

APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE AS NUMBER FIVE, A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO JS CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT, A PARKING AREA, THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK, FISCAL IMPACT $550,351 AND 60 CENTS.

MA'AM UM, NEXT IS

[IX 5. Approval to Authorize a Construction Contract to JS Construction Services Inc. for Site Development of the Parking Area at Oyster Factory Park (Fiscal Impact: $550,351.60) - Kimberly Washok-Jones, Director of Projects and Watershed Resilience]

UM, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE'RE BRINGING FOR TRANSPARENCY TO KNOW HOW WE'RE SPENDING MONEY IN THE BUDGET AND KIM, AND I'M GONNA RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS I'LL SHOW.

A CONSTRUCTION CRIME TRACK TO JS CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT OF THE OYSTER PARK OYSTER FACTORY PARK PARKING LOT WITH A FISCAL IMPACT, POTENTIALLY A $550,000, $351 AND 60 CENTS WITHIN BUDGET.

AND LARRY TUMOR IS GONNA RECUSE HIMSELF FROM ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

SO YOU HAVE TWO PIECES OF PAPER RIGHT NOW TO SIGN WE'LL UP WITH THAT, ABOUT THAT.

THANK I APPRECIATE IT.

THERE YOU GO.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

I HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT I'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AND AS YOU SAID, FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY, SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT OUR BUDGETARY IMPACTS ARE FOR PROJECTS.

THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE, HERE THIS EVENING.

UH, WHAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST TO AUTHORIZE

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JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AND BACKGROUND FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH OYSTER FACTORY PARK.

UH, THE MASTER PLAN WAS DEVELOPED BACK IN 2015 AND IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY, THE OPEN LAND TRUST AND IS TO PROVIDE FOR RECREATIONAL AND SCENIC AND HISTORIC USES OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT HISTORIC PLAN OF 2015 WAS USED TO UPDATE A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT IN 2021.

AND THIS, UH, WAS BASED UPON COUNCIL INPUT AND CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OF, OF THE DESIGN AND LAYOUT.

UH, SPECIFICALLY, I WANNA CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE POINT OF QUESTION FOR THIS EVENING.

IF I CAN GET IT TO WORK.

THERE WE GO.

IS THE PARKING AREA FOR CONSTRUCTION, UM, BASED ON SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK FROM 2021, ORIGINALLY, THAT WAS THAT PARKING AREA TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS CURRENTLY PEDESTRIAN AND PASSENGER PARKING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MORE TRAILER PARKING WAS TO MAKE THAT NOT TRAILER, BUT PUT PASSENGER THERE, MOVING THE PLAYGROUND FROM BEHIND THE PAVILION, MAKING IT MORE EVENT FRIENDLY FOR SERVICE AND COOKOUT AREA, ENSURING THAT WE'RE STAYING IN AGREEMENT WITH THE BUFORT COUNTY ROLLING CRITICAL LAND PRESERVATION, UM, AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE UPGRADING THE COOKOUT AREA AND PROVIDING ACCESS POINTS FOR ALL THE LOADING AND UNLOADING FOR EVENTS THAT WE DO HAVE IN THAT FACILITY.

SO SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PHASE OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE OYSTER FACTORY, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE AREA THAT IS BETWEEN THE EXISTING PARKING LOT, THAT FACES BRIDGE STREET.

SO THIS WOULD BE WAR STREET.

YOU GOT IT.

WE'VE GOT THE PAVILION DOWN HERE.

SO THIS HAS BEEN UNDER BRUSHED AND OPENED UP RIGHT NOW.

IT'S VERY AD HOC, UH, A LOT OF GOLF CART PARKING IN THERE.

UH, AND THIS WILL MEET IMPROVEMENTS TO GIVE MORE PEDESTRIAN AS WELL AS GOLF PARK GOLF CART PARKING.

SO THE SCOPE OF THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL 49 CAR SPOTS, 23 GOLF CART SPOTS.

WE WILL BE PERVIOUS.

WE WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH SOLO STANDARDS FOR STORMWATER AND THE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT.

UH, WE WILL ALSO HAVE THE CONDUIT FOR LIGHTING AND IRRIGATION AND THE SCOPE INCLUDES LANDSCAPE CONSTRUCTION AFTER CIVILS CONSTRUCTION AND ENSURING THAT WE HAVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY WITH CONNECTIVITY FROM BRIDGE STREET TO THE PAVILION.

AFTER PUTTING OUT AN IFB, WE HAD TWO RESPONDENTS THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE.

THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE BIDDER WAS JS CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR $550,000, 351 CENTS AND 60 CENTS.

SO WITH THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO JS WITH A 10% CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY, WHICH IS WITHIN BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.

UM, AND WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH KICKING THAT CONTRACT OFF AND A NOTICE TO PROCEED IF APPROVED THIS EVENING.

GREAT.

SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UM, IF THERE IS, OR NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT WITH JS CONSTRUCTION, COVERING THE SITE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARKING AREA AT THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK? THE AGREEMENT INCLUDES A COMMITMENT FROM THE TOWN OF LEFTON FOR $550,351 AND 60 CENTS AND A 10% CONTINGENCY BE PAID FROM THE APPROPRIATE TOWN FUND.

SOME IS YOUR SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? I'M GUESSING WE'LL DO ALL OF THIS AROUND.

WE LIKE GETTING PROJECTS DONE, BUT OCTOBER'S GOOD BECAUSE VOTING'S KIND OF RIGHT, BUT NOT IMPACTING ARTS AND SEAFOOD FESTIVAL.

AND ARTS AND SEAFOOD FESTIVAL, RIGHT? YES, DEFINITELY.

STILL UP A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ANY OTHER ALL NOTICE WILL BE GIVEN? YES.

MA'AM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING I, I OPPOSED.

SO THAT'S FOUR IN ONE RECUSAL NEXT YOU'RE

[IX 6. Approval to Authorize a Landscape Architectural Contract to Wood and Partners for Landscape Architectural, Engineering and Architectural Services for the New Riverside Barn Park Playground (Fiscal Impact: $164,400.00) - Kimberly Washok-Jones, Director of Projects and Watershed Resilience]

CONSTRUCTION, TWO NUMBER SIX APPROVED TO AUTHORIZE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURAL CONTRACT TO WOODEN PARTNERS FOR THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR THE NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PARK PLAYGROUND, FISCAL IMPACT 1 64, 400.

PARK IS TO CREATE COMMUNITY OPEN SPACE FOR CIVIC, GATHERINGS AND PARK USE.

MA'AM AND REPHRASE INTO THAT, UH, AGAIN, PUBLIC SAKE AND BACKGROUND.

THIS IS THE 37 ACRE NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PROPERTY OUT ON ONE 70 NEAR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, WHICH WAS PURCHASED IN 2018.

UH, WE HAVE A 2,700 SQUARE FOOT BARN, LOTS OF OPEN GREEN SPACE OUT THERE.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT, THAT

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AND ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITY OUT IN THE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA.

UH, WHAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT AWARDING IS A CONTRACT TO WOODEN PARTNERS AS THE PRIME, BUT THEY HAVE A DESIGN TEAM THAT IS COMPRISED ALSO OF THOMASON HUTTON COURT ATKINS, AS WELL AS SEVERAL VARIOUS ENGINEERING GROUPS, SUCH AS CRANSTON ENGINEERING, UH, FOR WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO SHOW YOU WHEN THE, WITHIN THIS SCOPE, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC INPUT OPPORTUNITIES BETWEEN THE ARTS AND SEAFOOD FESTIVAL, AND ALSO HAVING AN ONSITE EVENT WHERE THE DOT DEMOCRACY CAME INTO PLAY.

THAT'S WHERE YOU STICK YOUR DOTS UP THERE, UH, 200 AND 270 SURVEYS OBTAINED.

AND WHAT ALL OF THAT BOILED DOWN TO WHERE THERE WERE FIVE THINGS THAT PEOPLE REALLY WANTED TO SEE IN THE PLANS OUT THERE, BARN IMPROVEMENTS IN RESTROOMS, MULTIPURPOSE TRAIL, HAVING TO OPEN FLEX SPACE, MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH NATURE IN THAT AREA AND PROVIDING AMPLE PICNIC SHELTERS.

THE CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN 2020.

WE'VE ALREADY GONE OUT TO PHASE ONE ENGINEERING FOR THE, UM, THE, UH, SITE DESIGN AND ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION.

SO THAT'S OUT RIGHT NOW.

WE IN FACT, AND PLAN TO BRING THAT TO YOU IN OCTOBER FOR AWARD.

SO WE'VE ALSO HAVE UNDER COURT ATKINS, THE DESIGN SERVICES FOR SPECIFICALLY THE BARN.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO APPROVE NOW WITH THE WOODEN PARTNERS CONTRACT AND DESIGN TEAM IS FOR THE PLAYGROUND AREA AND PAVILIONS.

AND THIS IS FOR THE DESIGN, THE CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN.

LEMME PUT MY GLASSES ON SO I CAN SEE THAT PART CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN.

UH, SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WORKING IN THIS AREA, RIGHT? THE BARN IS HERE.

THE PLAYGROUND AREA IS IN THE CENTER.

HERE'S THE EXISTING FIRE STATION JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEAS OF WHAT'S UNDERWAY.

AND OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL BE COMING BACK AT VARIOUS POINTS FOR MORE INPUT.

UH, WE HAVE A, A MEETING COMING UP WITH COURT ATKINS LATER, UM, AND IN A WEEK TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THEIR IDEAS ARE FOR THE BARN RENOVATIONS AND REUSE.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FROM WOODEN PARTNERS ON THE PLAYGROUND.

THE IDEA FOR THIS PLAYGROUND IS FOR IT TO BE A DESTINATION WITH ICONIC PIECES THAT SERVES A, A MULTITUDE OF AGE GROUPS, AND IT CAN BE FEATURED THROUGH DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT STRUCTURES, SUCH AS THE EARLY AGE YOUTH L WHO IT SERVES TWO TO FIVE, UH, CLIMBING STRUCTURES, FIVE TO 12, AGAIN, MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING ALL OF THOSE AGE RANGES AND ACTIVITIES OUT THERE, UH, LARGER CLIMBING OPTIONS.

SO THESE WILL LOOK MORE LIKE NESTS TO FIT WITH, WITH WHAT'S OUT THERE.

UM, AND ALSO MORE CLIMBING AROUND IN TACTILE ACTIVITIES.

AND THEN WE GOT THE LITTLE GUYS TOO, RIGHT.

EVERYBODY LOVES TO WRITE A BUG UH, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WHO DOESN'T LIKE TO WRITE MIGHT BE AN ADULT PLAYGROUND.

YOU IN OCTOBER THAT'S WE HAVE, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN THERE? I'LL GO OUT THERE.

I, I LOVE THOSE LITTLE THINGS.

SO, UH, OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE THIS DESIGN SERVICES CONTRACT WITH WOODEN PARTNER, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR THE NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PARK PLAYGROUND AREA QUESTIONS.

I GUESS I, WHEN YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG AREA AND WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT THAT LIVE REALLY CLOSE THAT CAN RIDE THEIR BIKE.

I THOUGHT THEY COULD DRIVE A GOLF CART.

I DIDN'T SEE COUNTY COUNCIL PUT FURTHER THAT DOWN, BUT WHEN DO WE SEE THAT WE ARE OPENING THIS FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY USE? I MEAN, WE OWNED IT IT FOR SO MANY YEARS.

WHEN CAN IT JUST BE OPEN, OPEN TO REMODEL? WELL, I MEAN, AS AN UN IMPROVED SPACE, PEOPLE CAN, I THINK, GET OUT THERE NOW, CAN THEY NOT BE, HAD TO MOW IT? AND I SAY, ONE SPACE, ONE IS DONE.

THE PARKING WILL BE IN PLACE AND IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR IT CAN BE AN OWN PROGRAM, GREEN SPACE, UM, THE PLAYGROUND, THE BARN, THE TIF FUNDING AND BONDING THAT COUNCIL DID.

WE WERE TRYING TO PUSH TO GET THE ENTIRE PROJECT COMPLETE WITHIN ABOUT 24 MONTHS.

I WOULD, I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S FRUSTRATING IF I LIVED THERE NOT BE ABLE TO GO AND SIT AND PUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I JUST SAW IT RIGHT THEN FOR TODAY.

AND I GUESS I'VE, I ASKED IN THE PAST, CAN WE NOT MOW IT? CAN WE NOT OPEN IT UP FIRE STATIONS HERE? SO MAYBE THE HOPE IS FOR ALL RESIDENTS, WHEN THE PARKING THEN GATES WILL BE OPEN AND WE'LL HAVE SOME KIND OF, OF THAT PHASE ONE.

SO IF WORK IS DONE, THERE WILL BE FORMALIZED PARKING SPACES LIKE RIGHT NOW, I THINK IF PEOPLE ARE RIDING THEIR BIKES OUT THERE, IT, BUT IT'S NOT EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO DRIVE TO AND PHASE, I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON PHASE ONE? PARKING THAT CONTRACT WILL BE COMING TO

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AND THE, THE REASON WE WOULDN'T COST THEM OUT THERE DURING PHASE ONE IS THAT IS INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE GRADING AND PUTTING PIPES IN THE GROUND AND THERE'LL BE, SO ONCE THAT'S DONE, IT'LL BE FAR EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS AND PARK AND ENJOY YOU.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THERE? A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A DESIGN SERVICES CONTRACT WITH WOODEN PARTNERS, FOR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR THE NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PLAYGROUND AREA, FISCAL IMPACT 164,400 PER SECOND DISCUSSION ALL SAY THING.

I OPPOSE GREAT JOB.

OF AN APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER PLAN FOR CYPRESS RIDGE WITHIN THE JONES ESTATE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR ADDITIONAL ROADS AND SERVICE LANES TO THE COMMERCIAL VILLAGE AREA, MILL CREEK FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF 29 ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON APPROXIMATELY 1,412 ACRES LOCATED ON SOUTH CAROLINA, HIGHWAY ONE 70.

THAT'S EXCITING THAT UNDERWAY KEVIN CONSIDERATION

[IX 7. Consideration of Approval of an Amendment to the Master Plan for Cypress Ridge within the Jones Estate Planned Unit Development for Additional Roads and Service Lanes to the Commercial Village area of Mill Creek for Future Development of 29 Attached Residential Units on Approximately 1,412 Acres Located on SC Highway 170 - Kevin Icard, Director of Growth Management]

AND ON SAW YOU TAKING NOTES WHEN PUBLIC COMMENT IS TAKEN PLACE.

SO IF WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE YES.

MA'AM COMMENTS AS WELL.

IT'D BE GREAT.

VERY GOOD.

I I'VE TOOK NOTES TOO, SO EXCELLENT.

UM, SO AS YOU STATED, WE'RE HERE FOR A, UH, MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE CYPRESS RIDGE, UH, MASTER PLAN SPECIFICALLY FOR THE MILL CREEK AREA.

UH, THAT'S THE DR.

HORTON PORTION OR THE NORTHERN PORTION PROPERTY.

UH, THE APPLICANT MIKE HUGHES WITH THOMASON HUNT IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND ABLE TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

UM, SO WE CAN CAP HIM UP HERE TO, TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THAT INFORMATION.

UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING, UM, TO REVISE THE STREET NETWORK.

UM, AND THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WE'RE HERE BECAUSE OF THE, UM, ONCE YOU START CHANGING THE STREET NETWORK, THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO COME BACK IN, IN, IN FRONT OF THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL FOR AN AMENDMENT, UH, TO THIS MASTER PLAN.

SO, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING TO, UM, CHANGE THE COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION.

THAT'S ON THE PLAN, UH, HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS, UH, TOP IMAGE, DOESN'T HELP THAT THE POINTER IS RED AS WELL.

MM-HMM .

UM, BUT TO THE, WHAT WOULD BE PROPOSED AT THE LOWER IMAGE HERE WHERE YOU'D HAVE 29, UM, TOWN HOME, LOTS THAT WOULD BE, UH, REAR A REAR LOADED PRODUCT, UH, MEANING THAT THE, THE DRIVEWAYS WOULD NOT BE OUT ON THE FRONT OF THE ROAD, BUT BE BEHIND THE ROAD, UM, OR EXCUSE ME, BEHIND THE LOTS.

AND THEN THERE'S STILL, UM, THE, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, PROPERTY THAT'S RIGHT HERE, UH, CURRENTLY THAT IS, UH, UNDER PERMITTING FOR A DAYCARE CENTER.

SO, UM, THAT IS MOVING FORWARD.

UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME UP.

UH, SOMEONE SAID THAT THERE'S A DAYCARE THAT'S GOING, UM, GOING ACROSS THE STREET, THEY WERE REFERRING TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.

UM, DOES THAT, THAT IS PART OF THIS.

YES, SURE IS.

YEP.

UM, SO, UH, HERE'S JUST AN AERIAL MAP.

IF YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE, THE, THE HIGHLIGHT HIGHLIGHTED PROPERTY THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO ALSO, UH, THERE'S THE SMALL PORTION DOWN HERE.

UH, THIS IS HOLSTON LANDING.

UH, THIS IS WHERE, UH, DR.

HORTON'S OFFICE IS CURRENTLY LOCATED AND THEY HAVE A BOAT IN RV STORAGE AREA.

UH, THAT DESIGNATION WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THIS PORTION OF PROPERTY AS WELL.

WELL, THEN IT'S JUST, IT'S IT TURNS INTO OPEN SPACE.

UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, THIRD JULY 27TH MEETING, UH, RECOMMENDED TO DENY THE REQUEST BASED OFF OF THE REVIEW CRITERIA, UH, OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

AND I'LL, UH, GO TO THOSE REVIEW CRITERIA HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.

UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN.

UM, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHERE, UH, A LOT OF THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, WAS DESIGNATED FOR THE AREAS HERE, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UM, THERE WAS COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION, UM, ALONG THE FRONTAGE IN FRONT OF FOUR SEASONS.

SO THIS IS THE K HIAN PORTION OF IT.

THIS IS THE DR.

H PORTION OF IT.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SO FAR? WE'RE NOT, BUT WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE K HIAN.

NO, MA'AM JUST SHOWING US OKAY.

UH, ACRES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY CONVERTED THAT TO 29 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

JUST SHOWING YOU THE OVERALL, THIS IS THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN, AND IT'S JUST THIS PORTION UP HERE THAT'S BEING AFFECTED.

UH, SO YOU CAN SEE NOW THAT THAT, UH, UH, COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION HAS BEEN REMOVED AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE TOWN HOMES AT THAT LOCATION.

THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE RIGHT HERE.

SO YEAH, HOW I WAS LEANING IN ON IT.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE, THE CONCERNS IS THAT, UM, IN OR IN THE, UM, CONCEPT PLAN, UM, IN THE JONES STATE, YOU WERE ALLOWED A CONVERSION, SO YOU COULD CONVERT COMMERCIAL ACREAGE OF ONE COMMERCIAL ACREAGE TO, TO FOUR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS.

UH, SO THAT HAS BEEN, UM, HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT IS A BY RIGHT, UM, USE THAT THEY, THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO.

UM, DR.

HORTON HAD, UH, 7.2, FIVE,

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UM, THAT HAPPENED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO TO MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UH, AGAIN, BY RIGHT.

THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO THAT WITH NO PROBLEMS. UH, JUST NOW WE'RE AT, AT THE POINT WHERE THEIR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THIS DEVELOPMENT RIGHT HERE, UH, CAUSED IT, TRIGGERED FOR THEM TO, UM, COME BACK IN FOR THIS MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE CHANGING THE ROAD NETWORK.

SO THIS IS JUST A, A HIGHLIGHTED, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT EASIER, UH, FOR YOU TO SEE AGAIN, UH, HERE'S ONE 70 AT THE BOTTOM.

THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE, UM, THAT DAYCARE WE'RE REFERRING TO IS GONNA GO HERE.

UH, THIS IS A, UM, THERE'S A MEDIAN THROUGH HERE.

SO ANY, UH, ACCESS TO THIS PORTION OF IT WOULD BE A RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT ONLY, UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE PRODUCTS ARE REAR LOADED.

SO THERE'S AN ALLEY THAT COMES OFF THE SIDE HERE.

THIS IS ALL ALLEY FED, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE OFF OF, I BELIEVE THIS IS WAGON WHEEL BARREL.

OH, BARREL.

I FEEL LIKE THAT I HAVE SOME SLIDES THAT WERE, YES, I DO HAVE SOME OTHER SLIDES HERE.

THAT'S WAGON WILL.

UM, THIS IS A, A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US FROM THE APPLICANT TO SHOW THAT IF THERE WERE, THERE WAS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT THIS IS, WOULD BE SOMEWHAT OF A PROGRAMMING OF IT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BACK WHEN THIS, UH, MASTER PLAN WAS INITIALLY THOUGHT THROUGH THIS, WOULD'VE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WOULD'VE, WOULD'VE COME FORWARD FOR THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AGAIN, THIS HAS NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF.

THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL, THIS IS ONLY TO, TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THERE WAS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE.

SO THE REVIEW CRITERIA, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED FOUR OF THEM.

THESE ARE THE FOUR CRITERIA, UM, THAT STAFF POINTED OUT THAT WERE NOT CONSISTENT, UM, UH, IN, IN MEETING THESE, UH, CRITERIA.

AND THESE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION USED IN BASING THEIR DECISION.

UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS THE, UH, PROMOTION, UM, IN CONSISTENCY OF THE LAND USE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND, UH, STAFF FELT THAT IT DID NOT MEET THAT ELEMENT OF THE BALANCE OF LAND USES.

UH, WHEN THIS PLAN INITIALLY CAME THROUGH, IT WAS A AS TOUTED AS SOMEONE EVEN, I THINK THEY, THEY EVEN SAID LIVE, WORK PLAY, AND, AND THE, THE WORK PORTION IS NOW, UH, BEING REMOVED FROM THAT, UH, THAT PORTION OF THE PLAN, UM, FELT THAT IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE, UM, ZONING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE JONES STATE THAT WAS DESIGNED AS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH INCLUDED RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL USES, BUT IT WAS NO LONGER MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT.

UM, CONSISTENCY WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FELT THAT IT WAS NOT CONSISTENT, UM, THAT, UH, WHILE THE CONVERSION OF THAT COMMERCIAL DENSITY WAS ALLOWED, UM, THAT THIS CONVERSION OF USE FURTHER LIMITS THE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CYPRESS RIDGE, UH, P UD MASTER PLAN, WHICH WAS CHARACTERIZED AS A COMMERCIAL VILLAGE THAT REPRESENTS THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN THE ABILITY TO SERVE, UM, TO ADEQUATELY SERVE, UM, SEWER ROADS, POLICE, AND FIRE.

UM, AND WE FELT THAT IT DID NOT, UM, NOT TO GET TWO INTO THE WEEDS, BUT THE, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS PROVIDED IN 2017, AND THIS IMAGE MIGHT HELP A LITTLE BIT THAT THE TWO, UM, THE TWO, THE NORTHERN AND THE SOUTHERN PORTION DO CONNECT IN THE BACK.

AND PART OF THAT WAS, UM, RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN FOUR SEASONS, HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRAVEL THROUGH MILL CREEK IN ORDER TO ACCESS THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S UP AT THE FRONT HERE.

UM, AND WHEN THEY DO THEIR CALCULATIONS, THEY, THEY COLLECT THAT ADDITIONAL, UH, TRIPS.

SO THAT WAY THE INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT DRIVING OUT ONTO THE MAIN ROAD AND, AND CLOGGING ONE 70, BUT THEY'RE USING THE INTERNAL NETWORK IN ORDER TO GET OVER TO THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT, THAT ALLEVIATES SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC OFF OF THE MAIN ROAD.

WELL, WHEN ALL OF THIS COMMERCIAL NOW DISAPPEARS ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC THAT, THAT THEY COUNTED FOR THAT HAD THE ABILITY TO GO HERE.

IT, IT, THEY'RE NOT GOING HERE.

THEY'RE GOING OUT ONTO THE MAIN ROAD, WHICH IS NOW C CLOGGING THAT ROAD.

AND WHAT STAFF WAS SAYING IS THAT YOU NEED TO UPDATE THAT PLAN TO SHOW US WHAT IS THAT TRUE IMPACT OF NOW ALL OF THIS TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, EXITING ON THESE TWO POINTS AS OPPOSING TO HAVING THE ABILITY OF EXITING AND, AND JUST GOING TO THIS COMMERCIAL, AND THEN GOING BACK THROUGH WITHOUT GETTING ONTO ONE 70.

SO WE HAD REALLY, UH, WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

UM, SO YOUR, UH, ACTIONS THIS EVENING, OR TO APPROVE, UH, THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED, UH, UH, APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH ANY CONDITIONS OR TO DENY THE APPLICATION, UM, BY THE APPLICANT, UM, JUST AS A FOLLOW UP, THIS DID GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN TOWN COUNCIL, UH, FOR THE MASTER PLANNER PEOPLE, WHICH IS TONIGHT.

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UM, THESE WERE THE OTHER REVIEW CRITERIA, IF, UH, IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS THAT PACKET, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'M ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UM, AND CAN SPEAK TO IT AS WELL BEFORE I GO, IF WE CAN JUST CLARIFY YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, UM, YES, MA'AM LOOKING THROUGH THIS PACKET.

IT ACTUALLY SAID THE MAYOR, WHATEVER DEMAND, WHATEVER YEAH.

DEMANDED OR WHATEVER, I PULLED THAT UP THE MAYOR IN 2000, THIS WAS THE MAYOR FROM BEFORE ME.

AND I JUST DON'T WANT THAT OUTFIT.

IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE ON THIS COUNCIL SITS IN A BACK ROOM AND SAYS, WHAT? SO DURING THE SAID, YES, MA'AM DURING THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.

ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD PROVIDED WAS THAT THE MAYOR AT THE TIME OF APPROVAL OF THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH WAS 2005, UM, THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN WAS ADAMANT THAT THE COMMERCIAL VILLAGE WAS A COMPONENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT WAS ATTENDED TO BE A NOTE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT, UM, HAD A DENSE CORE AND GOT MORE RURAL CHARACTER AS IT MOVED OUT.

HOW CAN WE CLARIFY THAT? UM, QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS.

CAN YOU REVISIT WHY PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED? SO THE, THE REVIEW CRITERIA THAT, UM, THAT PLANNING COMMISSION IN TOWN COUNCIL USE, UM, THAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE INCONSISTENT WITH THOSE REVIEW CRITERIA, AND THAT WAS THE DECISION MAKING, UH, THE, THEIR DECISION FOR, FOR MAKING THE, THE DENIAL, UM, RECOMMENDATION.

I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF 'EM.

IT WAS JUST A LOT OF IT WAS DEALING WITH THE FACT THAT, UM, WHEN THIS PLAN CAME THROUGH, IT WAS THAT COMMERCIAL NODE THAT WAS DISCUSSED.

AND THAT IS ERODED, UM, TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S, IT'S NO LONGER A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT 1400 PLUS HOMES, UH, IN THAT AREA OR 1800 HOMES, UM, THAT, THAT BOUGHT IN THINK THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OUT FRONT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE, ARE NO LONGER HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY.

CAN I SPEAK TO THAT? WELL, YEAH, I JUST, UM, HOLD ON, DAN.

SORRY.

I THINK HE WANTS, ARE YOU GONNA ANSWER HIS QUESTION OR CAN WE ASK OTHER QUESTIONS? SO I WAS GONNA REFUSE, OR AT LEAST YOU CAN STAND, YOU CAN STAND, JUST STAY THE MIC.

SO EVERYONE WHO'S AT WATCHIN CAN HEAR.

MY NAME IS MIKE HUGHES WITH THOMAS NUTTON.

UM, I, I DID HAVE FOUR THE REPORT CRITERIA, UM, AND I DID BRING A COUPLE SLIDES OR AT LEAST SOME THINGS TO KIND OF RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH KEVIN ON THE CRITERIA.

UM, AND THE FIRST ONE IS THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK.

OF INTERNAL CAPTURE IS TO REDUCE THE TRAFFIC OR AT LEAST MODEL WHAT'S INTENDED TO NOT GO TO THE PUBLIC STREETS.

AND SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH, UM, THE INTENT OF THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE ORANGE AND THE YELLOW AND THE GREEN DOTS ARE THOSE ARE VILLAGE NODES.

AND SO THOSE ARE THE PLACES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE GATHERING AREAS, THE PLACES YOU MEET, SHOP AND WORK.

AND YOU'LL SEE, THERE'S A NODE AT GIBB IT AT, UM, 46.

THERE'S A NODE AT NEWER RIVERSIDE ROAD AND ONE 70 AND 46.

IT'S NOT A NODE THERE.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE THAT THIS ISN'T CONSISTENT WITH THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, THE NEXT ONE IS THE, THE PUT, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE DESIGNATION ON THE JONES STATE, P U D THE YELLOW DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, ALL OF CYPRESS RIDGE IS DESIGNATED AS RESIDENTIAL.

THE MIXED USE IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD AT CHURCH POINT.

AND SO WE HAVE 25 ACRES OF, UM, THEY WERE CROSSING AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THERE.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE P D.

SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER TWO.

UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE WAS, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE MASTER PLAN, BUT WE'RE UP HERE AT THIS APPLICATION ASKING FOR RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MASTER PLAN.

SO IT ISN'T CONSISTENT, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

IT'S TO BE CONSISTENT WITH A REVISION TO THAT MASTER PLAN.

UM, AND THEN THE FOURTH WAS TRAFFIC.

AND SO IT IS TRUE.

WE, WE HAVE, WHEN WE DID COMMERCIAL, WHEN, UM, DAVENPORT DID THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THEY ACCOUNTED INTERNAL CAPTURE, BUT THE OVERALL TRAFFIC GENERATED FROM RESIDENTIAL, UH, LOW RISE.

WHAT'S CLASSIFIED AS MULTI-FAMILY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ATTACHED TO THE FAMILY TOWN HOMES IS 17 PEAK TRIPS PER HOUR.

AND COMMERCIAL WOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF 200.

AND WHAT IS IT? 110 PLUS REMIND US TRIPS PER PEAK HOUR PER DIRECTION.

SO REALLY IT'S A NET REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU GO FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

SO AGAIN, THE INTENT

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BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, IT REALLY IS A MATTER OF THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE REDUCED JUST BY VIRTUE MEDIA.

IT, OUR PLANNING LOOK THERE WE'RE TIGHT.

WE, NO, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL US ABOUT YES.

SO, UM, SO THOSE WERE THE FOUR CRITERIA THAT, UM, THAT WERE OUTLINED.

AND I, I FEEL LIKE WE DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE AMENDMENTS.

UM, THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, AND AGAIN, I THINK KEVIN SAID IT IS, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONVERT.

IT IS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

IT'S IN THE, UH, IN THE P U D AND THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT YOU CAN CONVERT, UH, COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL UP TO A TOTAL OF 400 UNITS.

AND THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN DONE.

UM, FURTHERMORE, ANYWHERE IN THE RED, YOU CAN DO RESIDENTIAL AND ALLOWED USE WITHIN VILLAGE COMMERCIAL IS RESIDENTIAL.

SO THE ONLY REASON WE'RE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING A STREET SYSTEM AND THE ROAD THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CONNECT THROUGH, UM, IS WHAT TRIGGERED US SITTING HERE.

SO IT'S ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PATTERN.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THE USE.

UM, AND WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH RESIDENTS AND I DO KNOW SOME OF THE CONCERNS.

ONE WAS, UM, NUMBER ONE, THEY DIDN'T CARE FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS FACING MILL CREEK BOULEVARD.

UM, THEY PREFERRED NOT TO SEE THE UNITS THERE, UM, AND, AND WE CAN GET THEM TO FIT ENTIRELY ON THE CUT THROUGH STREET THAT WE'RE CREATING, RIGHT? THE CONNECTION STREET FROM, UH, WOODEN WHEEL, UM, MILL CREEK BOULEVARD.

UM, WE WOULD STILL HAVE ONES THAT ARE ON OAK BARREL THAT ARE ON OAK BARREL, BUT WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY THAT WOULD NECESSARILY FACE, UM, THAT WOULD NECESSARILY FACE, UH, MILL CREEK BOULEVARD IF WE NEEDED TO.

UM, SECOND WAS, AND, AND THE, THE STREET ITSELF.

SO THERE WAS CONCERNS THAT THERE WOULD BE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, BUT AS KEVIN POINTED OUT, IT IS A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT.

SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, YOU DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF PEOPLE GOING FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION, EXITING THE PROPERTY TO GET THE SIGNAL.

UM, HOWEVER, IT'S, IT WOULD BE INCONVENIENT TO GO AND MAKE THE TURN ONTO, UH, OAK BARREL, THEN TURN LEFT ONTO WAGON WHEEL TO THEN GO THROUGH.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARILY THE CASE.

SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IF, IF WE GET DENIED, IF HORTON'S DEER, HORTON'S GONNA DO RESIDENTIAL, OR IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO COMMERCIAL.

UM, BUT I THINK IF THEY DO RESIDENTIAL, THIS IS A BETTER PLAN BECAUSE IT TAKES THE DRIVEWAYS AND PUTS THEM IN THE REAR.

AND SO, UH, OAK BARREL WILL HAVE A FREE, NO DRIVEWAY OF PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY THAT GOES ALONG THERE.

AND YOU WON'T HAVE THE OBSTRUCTION OF A BUNCH OF DRIVEWAYS BACKING OUT INTO YOUR NAME, CONNECT.

LET'S JUMP SOME MORE QUESTIONS.

YOU, BUT STAY RIGHT THERE.

DAN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, I'M, I'M JUST, UH, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING TO ME.

I, UM, I LOOKED AT YOUR JONES TRACK THAT YOU SHOWED A MINUTE AGO, MIKE, AND, UM, BUT THERE WAS A MASTER PLAN SUBMITTED TO THE RESIDENTS AT ONE POINT SHOWING COMMERCIAL, CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND I UNDERSTAND MASTER PLANS ARE A GREAT SCHEME AND DO CHANGE OVER TIME.

I GET THAT, BUT WHAT THEY WERE SOLD AND WHAT WE'RE GIVING THEM ARE NOT WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.

IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? FAIR STATEMENT.

I WOULD ALSO SAY IT'S ALSO A CHANGE IN THE TIMES.

UM, IT ALSO MADE REFERENCE TO BUYING A NEWSPAPER AND A CUP OF COFFEE.

SO I MEAN, 15 YEARS AGO THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A COFFEE SHOP THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, IT HAS TAKEN SO LONG FOR NEIGHBOR, FOR CROSSING DEVELOP AND, AND RIVERSIDE VILLAGE.

I, THESE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR, I MEAN, SINCE 2005, RIGHT.

AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN, AND DEAR HORTON'S BEEN CAREFUL TO PROTECT THE INTERESTED PARTIES OF THESE PROPERTIES, UM, BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY HAD A VESTED INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN AT ONE POINT IN THE MASTER PLAN, THERE WAS A GOLF COURSE POST.

CORRECT.

AND THEN THAT WENT AWAY, GOLF COURSE WENT AWAY AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY DOWN TOWARDS THE, UM, FOUR SEASONS AREA.

AND, AND CONNECTING DOWN TOWARDS, UH, THIS, THE, THE OTHER ENTRANCE THAT'S CORRECT.

LAST TUESDAY WITH THE RESIDENTS, MOSTLY THE NEIGHBORS DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS, WHICH WOULD BE AROUND THE LA CIRCLE AND THEN THE TOWN HOMES OFF OAK BARREL BOULEVARD.

AND THEN AGAIN, YOU JUST TOUCHED ON THE TRAFFIC FLOW SITUATION A LITTLE BIT AS DID KEVIN, UM, THE CHANGES THAT WOULD PLAY INTO THAT.

AND YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT YOU SPOKE TO THE RESIDENTS.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO DEAR HORTON HELD A MEETING, UH, A, I GUESS THE POA HAD A MEETING AND RESIDENTS SHOWED UP.

I WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY THERE DEAR HORTON AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES WERE THERE.

HOW MANY RESIDENTS WERE THERE, TIM? CAN YOU, UM, I'M TIM STONE WITH DR.

HORTON.

UM, SO WE HAD A TOWN HALL TYPE MEETING

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SO WE HAD A TURNOUT ROUGHLY 30, 40, WHICH WE WERE SUPER HAPPY ABOUT.

THAT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT FOR THAT SORT MEETING 1400 HOMES OUT THERE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S WHAT HE ASKED, LIKE HOW MANY, HOW MANY HOMES ARE IN STREET TRADING? SO TOTAL IT'S ABOUT 14.

16.

I PRETTY FIVE.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A, I MEAN, I, I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO GET PEOPLE TO SHOW UP.

I DO KNOW THAT, I MEAN, WE, WE DEAL WITH THAT OURSELVES, BUT THAT'S NOT INDICATIVE OF A GOOD CROSS SECTION OF PEOPLE SHOWING UP TO VOICE THEIR OPINION.

UM, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE THIS EVENING AND PLUS THE ONES THAT YOU SAID SHOWED UP THE 30 OR SO ARE ONES THAT ARE IMPACTED RIGHT.

THIS MOMENT, NOT THE OVERALL SCHEME OF THE WHOLE PLACE.

UM, ONE QUESTION I HAVE RICHARDSON IS IT SAYS IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT FOR CONVERSION OF FOUR UNITS, RESIDENTIAL PER COMMERCIAL.

UM, IF FOR SOME REASON, THIS COUNCIL DID NOT SEEK TO APPROVE THIS, WHERE DOES IT LEAVE US? SO IT WOULD LEAVE THEM ARE OBVIOUSLY RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE.

AND UNDER THE CURRENT FRAMEWORK, WHAT THEY CAN DO IS DEVELOP THEIR, THEIR 7.25 ACRES COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CONVERTED YET, OR WHAT THEY COULD DO IS GO AHEAD AND USE THAT BY RIGHT CONVERSION TO RESIDENTIAL, UH, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WOULD CONVERT TO A TOTAL OF 29 UNITS AND DEVELOP IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN.

UH, REALLY WHAT THE, ONE OF THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT'S BEING DONE HERE IS THAT INTERNAL ROAD NETWORK, UH, AND WHAT THAT INTERNAL ROAD NETWORK BY MODIFYING THAT YOU ARE.

AND, AND I'M SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT ON BEHALF OF STAFF AND THE APPLICANT HERE.

UH, BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT BY REARRANGING THAT INTERNAL ROAD NETWORK, THEY CAN DEVELOP A, UH, REAR LOADED PROJECT VERSUS FRONT LOADED HOUSING PROJECT.

I WOULD IMAGINE BASED OFF OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS IN CYPRESS RIDGE TONIGHT, WHO HAVE SPOKEN OUT A LITTLE BIT AGAINST WHAT, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, AS WELL AS DR.

HORTON, WHO BY ACCOUNTS HAS HAD DIFFICULTY MARKETING THIS AS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SINCE 2005, THERE'S LIKELY GOING TO BE A RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT IN THAT PLACE.

THE CONVERSIONS ALREADY HAPPENED.

UH, SO THE, THE, THEY DO HAVE A CERTAIN BY RIGHT ABILITY TO DEVELOP RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA, IF I'M CORRECT, AND I'M DEFER TO STAFF HERE, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS, WHICH HAS ITS OWN CRITERIA, UH, INCLUDING THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONSIDERATION OF THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND THE ADEQUATELY SERVED BY PUBLIC UTILITIES.

BUT AS FAR AS COMING BACK BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS A STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION.

SO, OH, GO AHEAD.

SO ON THAT, I MEAN, LET'S, I MEAN, WE ALL HAVE TO REALIZE COMMERCIAL.

THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE COMMERCIAL DOESN'T SELL AND EVERYTHING'S HOT TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO SOME COMFORT IN THE DENIAL.

I THINK IT GIVES RESIDENTS, NO, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE COMMERCIAL THERE, CUZ THEY'RE GONNA DO THE BUY RIGHT TO RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE RESIDENTIAL SALES, THE PROBLEM WE ARE HAVING IS IT'S 29 MORE HOMES THAT ARE GONNA IMPACT SCHOOLS.

AND WE HAVE SCHOOLS OVER HERE SAYING NO MORE STOP IT.

YOU'VE GOT, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE RESIDENTS THAT AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS RARE THAT THEY DON'T WANT COMMERCIAL.

SO WHERE DO WE FIND THE FIT AND WHAT ARE THOSE RULES FOR THEM? CUZ I HEARD BUFFER CONNECTIVITY, BUFFER, BUFFER, DON'T BUILD IT AT ALL.

AND SADLY THAT'S NOT OUR WORLD, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS ASK WHERE'S THE GENEROSITY BUT WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO CAN PLANNING AND ALL, AND THE PUBLIC HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SAY, HEY, LET'S SIT HERE AND WE WANT MORE OF A BUFFER.

WE WANT KEEP OUR FIRM, WE WANT ALL OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CARDS IT'S GONNA GET CONVERTED.

IF YOU DENIED IT, IT'S GONNA GET CONVERTED.

I CAN'T JUST, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE WELL POINT OF CLARIFICATION CONVERSIONS ALREADY HAPPENED.

SO OH YES.

SO THEY HAVE THE UNITS.

WELL, CAN I JUMP IN AGAIN? YEAH.

YES THEY HAVE.

AND CAN THEY GO BACKWARDS AND GO BACK TO COMMERCIAL? YES, THEY COULD REALLY THAT'S THE, THE JONES STATE IS A CRAZY DEVELOPMENT.

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I'M CONFUSED EVEN MORE NOW BECAUSE IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN CONVERTED, WHICH I DID NOT UNDERSTAND AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED IT, WHAT ARE WE SAYING? IT'S IT'S IT'S THE ROAD LAYOUT AGAIN, RIGHT? THAT'S, WHAT'S TRIGGERING ALL OF THIS BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS ROAD CONNECTION THROUGH HERE, UM, IS WHAT TRIGGERS, ANYTIME YOU HAVE A MASTER PLAN AND THEN YOU MAKE, UM, CHANGES TO THE, THE ROAD NETWORK THAT HAS TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IT'S CONSIDERED A MAJOR AMENDMENT WITH FIGURES THAT TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.

SO THAT IS REALLY THE ONLY TOPIC LIKE THIS, THIS MOMENT.

NOT WHETHER THEY GET THE 29 UNITS OR NOT BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN CONVERTED.

SO WHAT HAPPENS ON DENIAL? WHAT HAPPENS TO THE NETWORK THEN? WELL, WHAT HAPPENS ON DENIAL IS THAT THE APPLICANT STILL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY COULD HAVE, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A FRONT LOADED PRODUCT, UM, THAT WOULD BE ON THE ROAD HERE.

UM, AND THEN THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO GET THE NECESSARY, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, PERMITS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT'S THE PUBLIC TO LOOK AT THAT DRC, THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WELL OBVIOUSLY THIS IS ALL, THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN.

IF THEY MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT, THEN IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHICH IS THE DRC PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, AND IT WOULD BE ON THE PERMIT FINDER MAP AS WELL.

DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK TO BUMPER AND A COUPLE OF THINGS? CAN WE, YES.

MA'AM AND WITH RESIDENT, WHETHER THEY WERE THE FIRST OWNER OR THE LAST OWNER OR THE SECOND OWNER OR THE NEXT OWNER? YES.

A LOT'S CHANGED IN MASTER PLANS AND IT, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMMERCIAL AND THE WHOLE WORLD OF CONNECTIVITY, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 2000, NUMBER ONE DIFFERENT MAYOR, YOU KNOW WHAT IN THE MAYOR THAT SAID THAT, BUT THAT COUNCIL SHOULD SIT AT OUR COUNCIL TODAY AND SEE WHAT SOME OF THESE DECISIONS HAVE CAUSED ALL OF US AND NOBODY KNEW PATTERNS AND YOU KNOW, MM-HMM, GATHERING PLACES AND GROWTH FRAMEWORK.

WASN'T EVEN HERE IN 2000.

THAT WAS DURING THE LAST RECESSION.

CAUSE IT KEPT US THE LIGHTS ON WORKING ON SOMETHING.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT OF THE STATEMENT.

SO ARE WE IN A STAFF OPINION PLEASE SO IF COUNCIL DENIED, THEN THEY COME TO YOU AND DOES THAT GIVE A BETTER POSITION FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH THEM? OR IF WE JUST APPROVE, IT JUST GOES ON THROUGH THE WAY THEY'VE SUBMITTED IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE LOOKED AT THIS PLAN AND HAVE CONCERNS AS WELL, IS, IS THE, THE HOUSES THAT ARE FRONTED ON, ON MONITORING HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THE MAJOR ITEMS THAT I HAD TALKED TO THE APPLICANT AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

AND YOU HEARD OF PUBLIC COMMENT SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT OPPOSED TO, TO SOME OF THIS CONNECTIONS, THEY'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE REAR LOADED.

THEY ARE OPPOSED TO HAVING HOUSES THAT FRONT OUT ONTO TO MILL CREEK, UM, UH, MILL CREEK BOULEVARD HERE THAT JUST EXIT RIGHT OUT UNTIL, UNTIL ONE 70.

UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING THROUGH HERE JUST, JUST DID NOT SEEM APPROPRIATE TO HAVE HOMES RIGHT AT THAT LOCATION.

UH, PLUS IT'S PUSHED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK.

SO FROM A ACCESSIBILITY STANDPOINT, NO ONE WOULD EVER HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO WALK OUT TO THEIR, TO THE FRONT AREA.

UM, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR WALKWAY OUT HERE IS THE, THE IN ESSENCE OF MAJOR, IT'S SIMILAR TO DIER MILL.

I MEAN, I KNOW THIS PLACE, I'VE GOT GOOD FRIENDS THAT LIVE HERE IN DILLARD.

I THINK IT'S DILLARD MILL THAT LITTLE CUT IN, BUT RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT THE RED LIGHT.

I THINK THESE ARE THE TOWN HOMES.

THAT'S THE MODELS HERE KIND OF USING WITH REAR ENTRY, NOT LIKE WAGON WITH THOSE ARE THE BEST TOWN HOMES EVER THE FRONT ENTRY, BUT I MEAN, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN IN ANOTHER LOCATION, BUT WE'RE NOT HERE TO CORRECT.

WE'RE NOT HERE TO Y'ALL ARE.

THE BIGGEST THING IS WE, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ROAD NETWORK.

UM, THE, THE BUFFERS THERE IS, THERE IS 150 BUFFER, A RESIDENTIAL BUFFER OFF OF ONE 70.

UH, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'VE, THEY'VE KIND OF PROPOSED, THEY'VE ACTUALLY, UH, WENT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND THAT BUFFER IS A BUILDING SETBACK BUFFER, MEANING THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, PROPERTY DIPPED DOWN INTO THAT BUFFER AREA, CUZ IT'S MORE OF THE BUILDING SETBACK LINE, UM, TO, TO IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL SPACE THAT WAS NEEDED.

HOWEVER THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE THAT ALLEYWAY AT THAT 150 FOOT BUFFER.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE BEM THAT PEOPLE ARE REFERRING TO.

IT, IT IT'S IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE ROADWAY.

UM, ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS AT THAT LOCATION, THAT BERM IS GONNA GONNA BE

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REMOVED.

UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LANDSCAPING OUT THERE.

UH, WE WOULD TRY TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO, TO KEEP AS MUCH OUT THERE AS POSSIBLE.

UH, SINCE THERE AREN'T GONNA BE ANY DRIVEWAYS OUT FRONT THERE, IF THERE ARE TREES THAT THAT COULD BE SAVED, WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM AND THEN LOOK TO ANY OTHER, UM, KIND OF ENHANCEMENTS ALONG THE FRONT.

UM, AS WELL AS THE BUFFERING ALONG THERE.

I, UM, I DON'T MEAN TO BE STEPPING OVER EVERYBODY HERE.

I'M SORRY.

I DON'T THINK THE QUESTION WAS ANSWERED.

SORRY.

I DON'T THINK MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED.

UH, YOU WANNA REPEAT IT ONE MORE TIME? YES, SIR.

IS IT BETTER FOR US THE TOWN? IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE DENY THEY HAVE BY RIGHT.

THEY MOVE, THEY COME BACK TO CA BACK TO STAFF.

IF WE I'M SAYING THIS RIGHT.

I THINK I GOT BACK.

I UNDERSTAND IT.

ANOTHER THING IS JUST, JUST TAKE A HOLD ON IT AND GET EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE AND TALK ABOUT IT.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS WHICH IS THE BEST METHODOLOGY FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CLIENT AND, AND SEE THE NEEDS, TRY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE, THE RESIDENTS, WHICH IS THE BEST METHOD, EITHER DENIAL OR APPROVAL YOU HAVE COUNSEL COUNCILMAN WOULD, IF I MAY JUMP IN HERE FROM MR. IKER, I THINK ONE OF, I THINK THE DIFFICULTY WITH ANSWERING THAT QUESTION IS HE STAFF ISN'T CERTAIN NECESSARILY WHAT DR.

HORTON IS GOING TO DO.

SO FROM A BARGAINING POSITION, A STRENGTH POSITION, IF THE, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK STAFF WOULD PREFER TO HAVE MORE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO HAVE TO DISCUSS THIS WITH STAFF SO THEY CAN GO WITH THEIR ALTERNATIVE, THAT ALTERNATIVE PRODUCT NUMBER TWO.

AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CALCULATED RISK IF YOU DENY IT, UM, IF YOU DENY IT, THEN THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT COMMERCIAL PRODUCT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE THINK IT'S, OR THEY, WOULD'VE NOT CHANGED.

AND WE THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S VERY UNLIKELY.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY COULD GO FORWARD WITH THE FRONT LOADED PRODUCT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE, UH, THE ALTERATION OF THE TRAFFIC NETWORK.

AND IT SOUNDS UNDER AR THOUGH.

AND, AND SO I THINK THERE'S, I, I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION AND I THINK IT'S A DIFFICULT, TO BE HONEST, I THINK IT'S A REALLY DIFFICULT QUESTION FOR STAFF TO ANSWER BECAUSE STAFF'S OBLIGATION IS TO, YOU KNOW, ANALYZE IT UNDER THE CRITERIA AND SEE HOW THE BEST IT FITS THERE.

BUT, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, SINCE I, I'M NOT STAFF, I WOULD SAY, I THINK OBVIOUSLY IF YOU APPROVE IT, THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND YOU'RE ALMOST DELEGATING THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SMALLER ISSUES TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO STAFF, TO WORK OUT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESIDENTS, SUCH AS ENSURING THAT THERE ARE ADEQUATE BUFFERS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO MEET A CERTAIN DESIGN IF YOU DENY IT, THE WHOLE PROCESS STARTS OVER.

AND IT KIND OF REOPENS THAT BOARD TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MODIFYING THIS, THESE 27 HOMES OR 29 HOMES.

SO THOSE SEVEN THAT ARE UP ON MILL CREEK BOULEVARD ARE REORIENTED, UH, VERTICALLY RATHER THAN HORIZONTALLY, OR PERHAPS AS, AND I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT PERHAPS MOVING THOSE LOWER ONTO, IS IT ARGO, ARGO, ARGO? UH, SO THEY'RE NOT RIGHT UP AGAINST MILL CREEK BOULEVARD AND PERHAPS WAY SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WAY.

SO IN, I, IT'S HARD BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY, WHERE EVERYBODY IS RIGHT NOW WITH IT BEING DELEGATED DESIGNATED AS COMMERCIAL, YOU'VE HEARD OF BOTH THE APPLICANT AND WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE COMMUNITY.

THEY DON'T WANT IT COMMERCIAL, BUT YOU'VE ALSO HEARD FROM PLANNING COMMISSION.

WHO'S DENIED THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE IT'S AN ELIMINATION OF COMMERCIAL, UH, A COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION, WHICH IS ESSENTIAL AND I'M KIND OF RAMBLING HERE, BUT IT'S ESSENTIAL TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT BY STATE LAWS REQUIRED TO BE A MIXED USE.

DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A MIXTURE OF USES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH ONE ANOTHER.

AND AS YOU START TO CONVERT OUT ALL THAT COMMERCIAL, IT REALLY JUST BECOMES ALMOST DESPITE THE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A DAYCARE, BUT IT'S LARGELY A SINGULAR USE OUT THERE OF RESIDENTIAL, NOT JUST MIXED BUILDING TYPES, BUT MIXED USE.

AND SO I, THAT'S WHY PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THAT DENIAL IS BECAUSE IT IS INCOMPATIBLE IN CERTAIN TO CERTAIN EXTENTS WERE ARGUABLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH SOME OF THE CRITERIA, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE DOING THE AMENDMENT.

UM, IT, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I, IN MY OPINION, THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S A RISK IN DENYING IT BECAUSE THEY CAN, THEY CAN BUILD WHAT THEY'RE PERMITTED TO BUILD NOW, WHICH IS UNDER ALL.

I, I THINK ALL PEOPLE AGREE IS NOT AN IDEAL PRODUCT, BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT RISK IS MINIMAL.

AND IT'S JUST CALCULATING WHETHER Y'ALL, WHETHER Y'ALL THINK THEY'LL COME BACK AND WORK WITH THE WELL,

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CUZ YOU KNOW, WE'VE CHANGED FROM THINGS ON PAPER THAT LOOKS LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE UP HERE.

ACTUALLY, REAL PEOPLE LIVE IN THERE AND THEY DO MATTER.

AND IF FIVE PEOPLE SHOW UP OR 1,812 PEOPLE SHOW UP OR WHATEVER, THE NUMBER 1800 PEOPLE, UM, REALLY WE'RE ON AND WHAT'S WRONG WITH TRYING TO MAKE YOUR NEIGHBORS HAPPY.

AND IF IT'S A BEM OR TREES, WE DID IT WITH OLD CAROLINA WHEN THAT WAS IN OUR FACE AND THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO ABOUT IT.

AND TOWN HOMES WENT UP ON A GOLF COURSE AND YOU CAN FIND ROOM FOR A BEM.

YOU CAN FIND ROOM KNOWING WHAT, WHAT BY RIGHT IS, UM, I'M, I'M REALLY TORN.

I WAS, I I'M REALLY TORN.

I THOUGHT DENIAL.

WE SHOULD FOLLOW PLANNING COMMISSION ON TOTALLY DIFFERENT SIDES TO IT.

AND WHEN YOU HEAR PEOPLE LIKE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY TOOK THE TIME TO COME OUT HERE AND WE'RE VERY POLITE AT PUBLIC COMMENT AND VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I, I JUST THINK MAYBE WE JUST HOLD ON, REALLY MEET WITH THESE PEOPLE AND TRY TO FIND SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN SWALLOW.

I HAVE A, SORRY.

WE ARE NOT EVEN, I THINK WE HELD AHEAD.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST TO, TO SUM UP, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WHAT I HAVEN'T EVEN GONE ON THIS SIDE YET.

SORRY.

WHAT'S UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER APPROVE OR DENY OR WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT MOVING FORWARD.

AND I KNOW WE ULTIMATELY WOULD LOVE TO GET TO A DECISION AND RESOLVE IT.

HOWEVER, TABLING, IT IS AN OPTION BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD SAY IS ONE OF THE, THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCES THE USES ARE THE SAME EITHER WAY.

IT'S THE LAYOUT.

THE LAYOUT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE AND EXERCISE IS IF SPEAKING ABOUT 29 UNITS WITH THE, UM, PROPOSED AMENDMENT, YOU CAN DO A REAR LOADED PRODUCT.

AND THAT REMOVES THAT ARGO, UM, LANE, EXCUSE ME, SAY THAT ARGO CORRECTLY.

VERSUS IF YOU GO TO A FRONT LOADED PRODUCT WHERE EVERY SINGLE LOT HAS A DRIVEWAY AND A CURB CARD, SO THERE'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE.

SO IF IT WERE DENIED AND THEY DON'T BRING FORWARD A DIFFERENT AMENDMENT, THEY COULD FRONT LOAD THAT PRODUCT, UM, WHICH HAS BIGGER IMPLICATIONS.

AND I THINK, UM, RAISES SOME CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD THIS EVENING VERSUS THE PROPOSED LAYOUT, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THAT REAR LOADED PRODUCT, YOU CAN'T GET THAT REAR LOADED PRODUCT, OR AT LEAST I DON'T SEE A SOLUTION TO DO A REAR LOADED PRODUCT WITH ALLEYS AND TOWN HOMES BY FOLLOWING THE APPROVED CURRENT PLANT AT THAT HOME.

UM, IT'S THIS SPOT ON HERE? YEAH.

CONFUSED THAN I WAS BEFORE I, AFTER I READ EVERYTHING, BUT I ONLY HAVE HEARD TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOKE TONIGHT THAT LOVE THAT IDEA.

SO I'LL BRING THAT UP.

EVERYBODY SAYS THEY WOULD LIKE IT IF THEY DID THIS, IF THEY BUILT 21 INSTEAD OF 29 AND TURNED THIS ONE THAT WAY.

AND THE OTHER ONE, THE OTHER WAY, I'VE GOT A DAUGHTER THAT OWNS A HOUSE IN THERE, THE ONE, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE INTERIOR PART OF THEIR, THEY AREN'T CRAZY ABOUT THIS EITHER.

YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT HERE, THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY AFFECTED AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS THAT LIVE RIGHT.

THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT IT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OBVIOUSLY WASN'T TOTALLY SATISFIED WITH IT.

OUR STAFF WASN'T TOTALLY SATISFIED WITH IT.

SO I COULD NOT, UH, I COULD NOT APPROVE SOMETHING THAT WITH THIS MANY IFS AND ANDS, I, I, I COULDN'T SUPPORT IT.

YOU KNOW, IF GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND TRY TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, THEN THING TO DO.

AND ANOTHER THING IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF EVERYBODY CONTINUES TO CONVERT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, EVERY OPPORTUNITY THEY GET TO BUILD ONE MORE, UM, MULTIFAMILY UNIT OR, OR SINGLE FAMILY UNIT, THE TAXES ON EVERYBODY, IT'S GONNA BE SO HIGH THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE.

IT'S GONNA ONLY GET WORSE.

UM, TALKING TO MY FAMILY THAT LIVES THERE, THEY'D LOVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF CONVENIENCE STORE OR ICE CREAM SHOP OR SOMETHING WITHOUT GETTING ON ONE 70 AND HAVING TO GO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A LOT OF FOLKS IN ONE LITTLE AREA, NOT FOR EVEN A CONVENIENCE STORE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON IT.

I, I CAN'T APPROVE WHAT I'M SEEING.

SO I, UM, I GET SOME QUESTION FOR, UH, RICHARDSON.

I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO EVERYONE IN THE SITUATION, IN THE SENSE OF, UM, WE'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS AND WE EVEN SEE THE, UM, THE DETRIMENT OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH FRONT LOADING, THE, UM, THOSE

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UNITS IN TERMS OF WHERE THAT ROAD SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE IN DENYING IT, UM, DENYING TONIGHT WOULD ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GIVE THAT SAME CONSIDERATION THOUGH, TO THE APPLICANTS IN THE SENSE OF IF WE PUT THIS ISSUE ON HOLD, UM, THAT'S ADDING ANOTHER LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT IF WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DO COME TOWARDS OR TO THE TOWN AND THE FOLLOWING THE PROCESSES, UM, THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF MEDIUM THERE WHERE I DON'T WANT US TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BE LABOR, YOU KNOW, AN APPLICANT AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IF CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE MET.

SO WITH THAT, UM, BEING SAID, IS IT POSSIBLE, UM, RICHARDSON TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW IT TO GO BACK, UH, WITH SOME OF THE STIPULATIONS AND THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT IN TERMS OF, UM, APPROVING IT BASED ON HAVING, UM, THAT, UM, A REDRAWING OF WHATEVER THEIR CURRENT PLAN IS, OR REMOVING THE OPTION THERE OF THE, THOSE HOMES AND FRONT LOADING THAT PARKING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT I'M SAYING, WOULD THAT BE AN OPTION OPPOSED TO JUST EITHER DENYING OR PUTTING IT ON HOLD, LIKE DENYING WHAT, GIVE WHAT THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE VOICING THAT THEY WANT.

MA'AM COUNSEL AND PRESSURE.

AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU CAN DO AN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

THE BIG QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU STRUCTURE THOSE CONDITIONS SO THAT THEY'RE TIED TO THE CRITERIA SO THAT THEY'RE LEGALLY ENFORCEABLE, BUT ALSO HOW DO YOU PHRASE THOSE CONDITIONS? SO THEY ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE, THE ILLS THAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS, THAT YOU ARE FIXING THE ISSUES THAT THIS PLAN PRESENTS IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T SO SUBSTANTIALLY LIMIT THEIR ABIL, THE APPLICANT'S ABILITY TO DEVELOP THAT THEY, YOU DO IT, IT'S AN EFFECTIVE DENIAL, BUT ALSO ADDRESSES THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS, UH, WHICH ARE OBVIOUSLY, THEY'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT, I THINK, AND HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT IT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK MAYOR SGA HAD, UM, I HOPE THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO CONSIDER TABLING THIS COMING BACK TO Y'ALL IN A MONTH AFTER WORKING, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL ARE WELL ENOUGH.

WE'VE ALL BEEN AROUND THOMAS AND HUTTON AND THE DESIGN TEAM THAT DR.

HORTON HAS TO KNOW HOW SKILLED AND TALENTED THEY ARE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, MODIFY PLANS, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

THEY MAY COME BACK AND SAY THAT THEY JUST CAN'T DO IT WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THEIR APPLICANT'S BUDGET OR WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

BUT CERTAINLY NOW THAT THEY HAVE HEARD COUNCIL'S CONCERNS, THEY'VE BEEN ON THE RECORD, THEY'VE HEARD PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY'VE HEARD STAFF, THEY'VE HEARD THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY HOPEFULLY TO COME BACK WITH A PRODUCT THAT BETTER ADDRESSES THOSE, EVEN IF IT IS, AS YOU KNOW, MR. HUGHES SAID A VERTICAL REALIGNMENT OF THOSE MILL CREEK BOULEVARD HOMES, OR PERHAPS MOVING THEM TO A, ANOTHER LOCATION NEARBY TO KIND OF OFFSET SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE DRAMATIC IMPACT THEY WOULD HAVE ON THE ENTRANCES.

THEY COME THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.

I, I MEAN THAT, TO ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE THE BEST USE OF Y'ALL'S RESOURCES, THE APPLICANT'S RESOURCES AND STAFF, AS WELL AS HEARING THE COMMUNITY.

CAN YOU GUYS COME BACK UP, ANSWER QUESTION MM-HMM, , I'M LEANING TOWARD TABLING.

UM, BUT I, BUT I'M ONLY WANT TO TABLE, IF YOU GUYS WILLING TO GO BACK AND TRY TO WORK OUT SOME ALTERNATIVE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE ARE, I, I WANT TO BE MINDFUL.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF PROBABLY SINCE FEBRUARY OR MARCH ON THIS, AND I'M HOPING WE DON'T NEED TO GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION, GO BACK TO CRC PLANNING COMMISSION.

TWO MONTHS LATER, GO TO COUNCIL.

IS THERE A MEANS TO WHICH WE CAN AND STAFF COUNSELOR DOES HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO, I THINK RED, YOU HAD ME NERVOUS THERE.

UM, NO, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WILL A PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED IT.

SO, UM, THERE'S REALLY NO REASON TO BACK TO THEM AT THIS POINT.

AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE U WAS WRITTEN, THIS ISN'T LIKE A, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR TRADITIONAL PUT APPROVAL WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK IF THERE WAS A, A MODIFICATION TO, TO SOMETHING.

SO I WOULD THINK THAT YOU CAN, DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE OF THE CHANGES, I THINK YOU COULD AVOID HAVING TO GO BACK.

AND ALSO, AGAIN, BEING MINDFUL OF THE APPLICANT APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH STAFF, BUT I DO THINK THAT HAVING HEARD YOUR CONCERNS, AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS, THEY CAN BETTER ADDRESS THOSE AND MAYBE, UM,

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MODIFY THIS PRODUCT.

SO IT'S, IT WORKS FOR THEM.

IT WORKS FOR Y'ALL AND IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE SOLUTION.

DOES THAT, WOULD THAT MEAN ANOTHER COMMUNITY GATHERING? ABSOLUTELY.

BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO INVITE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

WE, WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THOSE.

WE FELT WERE MOST DIRECT.

I'M NOT MAKING A DECISION, BUT HIS RECOMMENDATION, I THINK STAFF SHOULD BE THERE BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE THAT I THINK STAFF CAN PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD HELP THEM PROCESS.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO JUST, THIS IS MY THOUGHT ON BRIDGET WAS ASKING ME A QUESTION, HER FAULT VERSUS TABLING IT.

I THINK YOU JUST, WE ARE GONNA BE VERY SURE WHAT THE APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS IS GONNA BE.

IF IT COMES BACK RIGHT NOW, LIKE RICHARDSON SAID, HOW DO YOU DRAW UP THOSE CONDITIONS? SO I'D URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT AND LISTEN TO THEM.

I MEAN, THERE'S ACTUALLY ROOM ACROSS THE STREET.

I WOULD THINK WHERE THE ONES ALREADY BUILT THAT YOU COULD MAYBE PUT LANDSCAPE.

I MEAN, I JUST THINK IF YOU WOULD BE CREATIVE AND KNOW THEIR RESIDENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE HERE LONG AFTER DR.

HORTON LEAVES, CYPRESS RIDGE, UM, MAYBE SITTING UP HERE ONE DAY THAT YOU NEED TO LISTEN, AND MAYBE THEY'RE JUST NOT HEARD AS PASSIONATELY AT A PLANNING COMMISSION.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DIDN'T WATCH PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE, BUT, UM, I THINK IT GETS YOU TO JUST GO BACK FOR ONE MORE MONTH AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT GONNA GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO, UM, THAT GOT A QUESTION TWO QUICK DENNIS QUESTION, YOU SAID ONE PER FOUR, ONE ACRE FOR FOUR DENSITY UNITS UP TO 400.

DO WE KNOW HOW MANY IS THAT IN THE WHOLE PLAN, INCLUDING, UH, TWO SEASONS OR WHAT'S THE UP TO 400 MEAN? YEAH, YOU SAID IT WAS CORRECT.

IT'S 400, IN FACT PORTIONS.

IT, IT WAS ALSO INCLUSIVE OF PART OF NEW RIVERSIDE.

SO NEW RIVERSIDE HAS ALREADY TAKEN, WHAT NUMBER ARE WE AT? CAN WE FIND THAT OUT BEFORE NEXT MONTH? WHERE ARE WE ON THE CONVERSION? NOT YET.

NOT YET.

I BET HE KNOWS, BUT I'M GLAD RATHER STAFF TO, AND THEN OUR NEW TREE ORDINANCE THAT WE PASS, THAT WE ARE UTILIZING ALL OVER BLUFFTON AND EVERYWHERE.

WHAT DOES THAT CUZ THAT'S A TREE AREA WHERE YOU GO IN, WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BUFFER? ARE WE UTILIZING OUR NEW TREE ORDINANCE STANDARDS? OH, WE ARE IN AND REMEMBER WE, YES.

UM, I REMEMBER THERE WAS CERTAIN SPOTS ON HERE WHERE THERE WAS SOME TREES THAT WERE THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, AND EVEN, EVEN THE LOCATION OF THE LANE WAS STOPPED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THERE'S A 42 INCH LIVE OAK THAT'S JUST BEYOND WE DID DO A TREE AND TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEY.

I LEARNED MY LESSON FROM, FROM THE LAST TIME.

UM, SO THE LAYOUT WAS BASED ON TRYING TO PRESERVE TREES.

THERE'S ALSO A COUPLE LIVE OAKS THAT ARE A LONG, UM, OAK BARREL THAT ALSO ARE BEING PRESERVED.

AND THEN IS IT REALLY CONNECTED TO FOUR SEASONS? IS, IS THE ROADWAY CONNECTED NOW? CAUSE I'M NOT SO WORRIED ABOUT FOUR SEASONS GOING THROUGH CYPRESS RIDGE.

I'D LIKE CYPRESS RIDGE HAVE THE ABILITY TO NOT HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO THE RED LIGHT CUZ THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN HERE THE LONGEST, QUITE FRANKLY.

SO I LIKE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DRIVE.

I THINK THEY'LL USE THAT MORE THAN WHAT YOU SAID, THE REVERSE, BUT I DON'T.

SO FOUR SEASONS HAS RIGHTS TO GO ONTO.

AND SO I RIDGE SHOTS RIDGE DOES NOT HAVE RIGHTS TO GO ONTO WHAT FOUR SEASONS, FOUR SEASONS IS GATED COMMUNITY AND THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE ORIGINAL.

WELL WE DROPPED THE BALL ON THAT.

NOT WHEN YOU WERE MAYOR.

NO, WOW.

THAT'S SOMETHING WRONG ABOUT THAT CONNECTION WAS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

YEAH, TOTALLY.

MAYOR.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

THANK MA'AM.

THIS IS LEGAL QUESTION AND I IT'S FUNNY, I HAD WRITTEN IT DOWN RIGHT, RIGHT BEFORE YOU SAID IT, BUT UM, SO THEY HAVE THE BY RIGHT.

WHICH IS WELL ESTABLISHED, BUT IN THAT DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S MORE LAND IN THERE TO BE DEVELOPED.

WE'RE IN 18 YEARS AND WE'RE FINALLY, BUT THIS IS THE LAST, THIS IS THE LAST OF IT.

I FEEL THAT WE HAVE DEDICATED EVERY BIT OF OPEN SPACE.

ANYTHING YOU SEE ON THAT MAP IS NOW EVEN, EVEN PLACES WE'VE PREVIOUSLY HAD ESTABLISHED AS RESIDENTIAL.

THIS IS THE LAST DEVELOPMENT AREA FOR DEAR WORK.

SO THERE'S NO ROOM TO MOVE.

ANY OF THIS RICHARD KIND ALLUDED TO THAT A MINUTE AGO.

NO, EVEN THE SPACE IS THE DEAR HOR HAS STILL RETAINS.

I WOULD SAY IT'S, IT WOULD BE DISINGENUOUS TO TURN THOSE AREAS, HAVING BEEN, NOT COMMITTED AS RESIDENTIAL PREVIOUSLY IN SOME OF THE OTHER PHASES.

SO THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY AREA WHERE IT'S IS TRULY DESIGNATED IS SOME FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR, FOR ADDING UNITS.

THERE THERE'S A LOT OF SPACES IN, IN PHASE 18, BUT IT'S JUST, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.

SO, AND, BUT YEAH, ENTITLED RIGHTS.

THIS IS IT.

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THIS IS THE LAST OF THEIR ENTITLED RIGHTS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, 29 UNITS OR 7.2, FIVE ACRES OF COMMERCIAL.

THANK YOU BY COUNSEL.

I MOVE THE EVERY TABLE LIST, UM, WITH THE FACT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEVELOPER AND THE COMMUNITY MEETS AGAIN WITH STAFF MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SECOND, SAY AYE, AYE.

OPPOS, UM, APPROVAL TO

[IX 8. Approval to Authorize a Task Authorization to Goodwyn, Mills & Cawood, Inc. for Engineering Services to Implement May River Watershed Action Plan Update Recommendations (Fiscal Impact: $202,690.00) - Kimberly Washok-Jones, Director of Projects and Watershed Resilience]

TA NEXT IS EIGHT APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE A TASK AUTHORIZATION OF ONE MILLS IN KK FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES TO IMPLEMENT MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN, UPDATE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE VALUES AT $202,690.

KIM, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DIDN'T PUT YOU ALL TOGETHER, BUT WE DIDN'T.

SO YOU KNOW, WANTED TO KEEP YOU'RE WE'RE KEEPING IT FRESH AND Y OKAY.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND WHAT I'M HERE BEFORE YOU IS WE HAVE AN EXISTING MSA WITH THESE CONSULTANTS, WHICH IS THE GOODWIN MILLS AND KAYWOOD TEAM FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS A TASK AUTHORIZATION TO BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE 2020 MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN UPDATES FOR QUICK REFERENCE AND, AND THE HISTORY.

UH, THE ACTION PLAN WAS DEVELOPED IN 2010 AND ADOPTED AS A SUPPORTING DOCUMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN 2010, THAT WENT THROUGH AN UPDATE PROCESS IN 2019 TO 2020, AND IS CURRENTLY A SUPPORTING DOCUMENT TO OUR EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD, COMING OUT OF THE NEW ACTION PLAN UPDATE.

THERE WERE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WHILE WERE INCLUDED IN STRATEGIC PLAN AND FISCAL YEAR CONSOLIDATED BUDGET.

AND THAT IS WHAT BRING US, BRINGS US HERE TODAY UNDER THIS TASK AUTHORIZATION.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS FOR THESE CONSULTANTS TO BEGIN TO DO SOME GEOTECHNICAL, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY FEASIBILITY WORK, UH, TO GROUND TRUTH, SOME OF THE MODELING THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL STAFF WAS DOING WATER QUALITY MODELING OF THE HEADWATERS UNITS, UM, SUB WATERSHED UNITS OF THE MAY RIVER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AS PART OF THE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, WE HAVE THE CONSULTANTS COMPLETE THOSE WATER QUALITY MODELS.

THEY IDENTIFIED 11 HIGHLY IMPERVIOUS SITES THAT MAY BE CONTRIBUTING EXCESSIVE STORM WATER VOLUME MAY NOT BE GENERATING POLLUTANTS, BUT A LOT OF RUNOFF COMING FROM THEM.

AND THOSE MIGHT BE OUR MOST PRIME SITES FOR IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RESTORATION PROJECTS.

HOWEVER, TO BE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE THOSE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE SOIL CONDITIONS ARE, WHAT THE GROUNDWATER CONDITIONS ARE, SO THAT WE GET THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

SO WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE 11 PROJECTS DESIGNS OR 11 PROJECT SITES BEING, UH, GEOTECHNICAL AND THE PRELIMINARY DESIGNS AND FEASIBILITY, THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THAT PACKAGE OF THAT TASK AUTHORIZATION IS IT'S GROUND TRUTHING, THE MODEL SO THAT WE CAN START MOVING FORWARD WITH PROJECTS TO IMPROVE, UM, IMPROVE THE, THE RESTORATION OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IN THE HEADWATERS.

ADDITIONALLY, OTHER TASK, UM, THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE ACTION PLAN UPDATE THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THIS WOULD BE IDENTIFYING 15 ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS SITES THAT ARE, THAT WE'RE TALKING LARGE IMPERVIOUS AREAS SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE WATER ON SITE AND PREVENT RUNOFF AS WELL AS CREATING A GUIDING POLICY DOCUMENT THAT WOULD HELP US TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES AND A, A FRAMEWORK FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WOULD, IF WE IDENTIFY A HIGHLY IMPERVIOUS SITE THAT IS NOT PUBLIC, SAY A SCHOOL OR TOWN OWNED, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO A PROJECT ON A PRIVATE SITE, GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE FOR THAT, AS WELL AS FRAMEWORK FOR OUR STORM WATER ORDINANCE FEE IN LIEU OF PROGRAM, ALL OF THOSE DETAILS, AS THEY'RE DRAFTED WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR WORKSHOPS SPECIFICALLY ON THAT POLICY DOCUMENT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WENT OUT AS AN EXPRESSION OF INTEREST TO THE FIRMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAD UNDER MSA, SPECIFICALLY GOODWIN MILLS, KAYWOOD, MCCORMICK, TAYLOR, AND WOOER, UM, AFTER STAFF EVALUATED THE, THE SCOPE, THE ANALYSIS, THE PROPOSED APPROACH TO IT AND SCHEDULE WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE AUTHORIZE GOODWIN MILLS KAYWOOD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TASK AUTHORIZATION FOR $202,690.

AND THE NEXT STEP WOULD GO AHEAD TO DO A PROJECT KICKOFF

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MEETING IN MID-SEPTEMBER AND START MOVING FORWARD.

MORE OF THIS WOULD COME BACK TO YOU, OBVIOUSLY, AS IT'S DEVELOPED, UM, QUESTIONS, CAN YOU SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TONIGHT? YES, SIR.

I AM.

I'M TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE FOR YOU AND OUR DONE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD, GETTING IT DONE.

GET IT DONE, TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE.

WHAT IS THE PICTURE UNDER YOUR BACKGROUND? I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT, NO, THAT'S THAT? UM, THIS ONE, I THOUGHT IT WAS TOWN HALL, BUT IT'S NOT, NO, THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY, UM, LEFT THE NEW RIVERSIDE AT THE SCHOOL OUT THERE.

BAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL.

WATER QUALITY PROJECTS PROJECT.

I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THAT ONE IS.

OH, YOU DOES.

IT'S IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A HIGHLY IMPERVIOUS SITE THAT WE COULD DO SOME RETROFITS ON POTENTIALLY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

IF NOT, IS THERE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN MSA TASK AUTHORIZATION AND THE AMOUNT OF $202,690 WITH GOODWIN MILLS AND KAYWOOD, INC.

TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN 2020 UPDATE AND MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN, IMPERVIOUS RESTORATION, WATER QUALITY THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

SO, THIRD, SECOND, SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION IT DONE FAVOR STATE BY SAYING, AYE.

I OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS NEXT OR THANK YOU, KIM.

AND IF I MAY THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.